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« on: Aug 06, 2007 at 10:16 PM »

Toshiba to Debut Third Generation HD DVD Players for High Definition Enthusiasts
 
  Toshiba takes the Hi Def movie experience to a whole new level with 24
    frames per second support, CE-Link connectivity, High Bit Rate Audio
           capabilities and unmatched interactivity functionality



    WAYNE, N.J., Aug. 6 /PRNewswire/ -- Toshiba America Consumer Products,
L.L.C. ("Toshiba"), announced today its third generation of HD DVD players
for the U.S. market. Continuing to outpace the competition in sales of
dedicated high definition players and responding to increased consumer
demand, Toshiba revealed three new sleek and stylish models for an ultimate
HD home movie experience. With all three new models priced under $500
(MSRP), Toshiba is delivering a powerful line-up of HD DVD players designed
to meet the aggressive growth in demand for high definition TVs.

    "With a majority market share in unit sales of next generation DVD
players, consumers are speaking loud and clear, and they are adopting HD
DVD as their HD movie format of choice," said Jodi Sally, Vice President of
Marketing, Toshiba's Digital A/V Group. "Because of the proven
manufacturing efficiencies of the HD DVD format, Toshiba can bring this
level of innovation in technology to a new generation of players with
cutting-edge functionality at affordable prices."

    Building on the success of its first and second generation players, new
leading enhancements in select models in the third generation line include
an improvement in video performance with 1080p/24 frames per second (24p)
support. Movie films are traditionally captured at 24 frames per second and
select Toshiba third generation HD DVD players will be able to maintain
this frame rate allowing consumers to enjoy movies in their native frame
rate.

    Also added to the line is "CE-Link" (HDMI(TM)-CEC) connectivity which
offers the capability to communicate with and control another CE device in
a whole new way. For instance, using "CE-Link" with "One Touch Play"
consumers will be able to turn on a CEC capable HDTV and a Toshiba HD DVD
player, and start playing a movie, with a single touch of a button on the
player remote.

    Toshiba Third Generation HD DVD Models

    Toshiba's third generation family starts with the entry level HD-A3
player featuring 1080i output capability. The other two new models,
Toshiba's HD-A30 and HD-A35, will output 1080p resolution (1920 x 1080p),
the highest HD signal currently available. Both models are capable of
outputing signals at 1080p/24 frames per second so consumers can enjoy
movies in their native frame rate. The HD-A30 and HD-A35 models also
feature "CE-Link" (HDMI-CEC), allowing two- way control between the HD DVD
player and a TV through an HDMI connection.

    The top-of-the-line HD-A35 also adds support for Deep Color via HDMI
allowing compatible display devices to deliver outstanding video quality -
displaying millions of possible colors to billions of possible colors.

    Additionally, the HD-A35 offers 5.1 channel analog output and High Bit
Rate Audio (up to 7.1 channel) via HDMI. With content encoded in 7.1ch,
this advanced surround sound is achieved through the HDMI connection
bypassing the player's internal audio processor and sending the signal to a
7.1 capable A/V receiver. High Bit Rate Audio will allow the consumer to
integrate the HD-A35 with the latest multi-channel A/V receivers and enjoy
a whole new dimension of high definition home entertainment.

    All of Toshiba's third generation HD DVD players are refined with new
cosmetic designs. Rounded edges, slim chassis (only 59.5 mm - nearly half
as tall as first generation players) and high gloss, black acrylic face
plates create very sleek devices - a perfect complement to Toshiba's award
winning REGZA(R) HD LCD televisions.

    Beyond the Hi Def Movie Experience

    Starting with 1st generation players, all of Toshiba's HD DVD players
support the enhanced features of the HD DVD format mandated by the DVD
Forum including picture-in-picture video, audio commentary and the ability
to allow web-enabled network capabilities. Using the Ethernet ports found
on all Toshiba HD DVD players, once connected to the network, users can
access bonus features, as available, from a movie studio's server. This
data is then saved in the player's persistent storage and can be accessed
by the user. In addition to accessing new bonus features, some HD DVD discs
may include locked prerecorded content which can be unlocked with a
downloadable key from the studio's online server. Web-enabled capability is
now opening the door to a new entertainment experience beyond hi def video
and audio.

    "Consumers will always have a consistent experience with HD DVD as we
have an established platform to keep the players updated to ensure the
ultimate HD movie experience," said Yoshi Uchiyama, Group Vice President,
Toshiba's Digital A/V Group. "A mandatory Ethernet port in all HD DVD
players ensures that consumers can receive updates to their units to
support the latest offerings from the studios and maximizing their
investment in the format."

    All of Toshiba's HD DVD models are backward compatible allowing users
to enjoy their libraries of current DVD and CD software while enhancing the
look of regular DVDs by upconverting them to near high definition quality.
    For more information on HD DVD, please visit http://www.toshibahddvd.com.

    Expected Pricing and Expected Availability:
    HD-A3 ($299.99, October 2007)
    HD-A30 ($399.99, September 2007)
    HD-A35 ($499.99, October 2007)

Source: http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/08-06-2007/0004639654&EDATE=
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« Reply #1 on: Sep 01, 2007 at 06:08 PM »

September is here but where is it???

CNET editors' take
for Toshiba HD-A35

FULL ARTICLE

The bottom line: At the very least, a new batch of modestly priced HD DVD players with newer and better features keeps the pressure on competing Blu-ray models to do the same, and that's a good thing. As always, we'll reserve judgment on whether these new players are worth buying until we get them in for review. In the meantime, though, anyone considering an HD DVD player would be well advised to wait a couple of months before taking the plunge.
 


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« Reply #2 on: Sep 02, 2007 at 12:42 AM »

September is here but where is it???

CNET editors' take
for Toshiba HD-A35

Funny....the article posted by you stated clearly that HD-A35 is expected to be released in October 2007. In NeilNo's first post also mentioned October 2007. Now it's only Sept...we'll know soon enough... Grin
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« Reply #3 on: Sep 02, 2007 at 08:24 AM »

Funny....the article posted by you stated clearly that HD-A35 is expected to be released in October 2007. In NeilNo's first post also mentioned October 2007. Now it's only Sept...we'll know soon enough... Grin

Actually I was looking forward to the A30 model, but there is still no mention in any of the on-line shop... Undecided Undecided Undecided
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« Reply #4 on: Sep 02, 2007 at 09:49 AM »

Not to worry Mouldingo, it's coming out soon na. I can understand your excitement after buying quite a number of HD DVD movies but without a HD DVD player. I'm also keen to see the performance review of these 3rd gen machines.  Wink 

Based on Amazon's expected release date for the HD-A30 is Oct 1, 2007. Guess a slight delay is expected. Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: Sep 08, 2007 at 07:04 PM »

based on the specs in amazon, the new models also upscale SD dvds. if true, this is great. no more need for separate upscaler.
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« Reply #6 on: Sep 08, 2007 at 11:24 PM »

I'm sure the specs are true as all the 2nd gen players already have upscale capability. Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: Sep 09, 2007 at 12:15 AM »

I'm sure the specs are true as all the 2nd gen players already have upscale capability. Smiley

oops. my bad. didn't check the gen 2 specs.  Grin
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« Reply #8 on: Sep 17, 2007 at 11:03 PM »

Actually I was looking forward to the A30 model, but there is still no mention in any of the on-line shop... Undecided Undecided Undecided

Looks like some online shops got their inventory early thus, start selling the long awaited HD-A30 model Smiley

http://www.buyhdonline.com/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=483&TopID=9

**Initial expected release was in September 2007 but later it's pushed back to October 2007. But now it seems it's on schedule after all. Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: Sep 17, 2007 at 11:09 PM »

^ uy, do i smell a price drop for the gen 2 models?  Shocked

i like the looks of the gen 3 models better though. darn it. choices, choices. with the free dvds, it might be worth it to get the gen 3, rather than gen 2.

must. not. buy. stuff. until. 2nd quarter 2008. must. not.  Grin
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« Reply #10 on: Sep 17, 2007 at 11:15 PM »

Yep the 2nd gen players prices hav ebeen dropping rapidly & with the release of 3rd gen players expect further drop but the bottom end is near na  Grin

must. not. buy. stuff. until. 2nd quarter 2008. must. not.  Grin

Yeah by then hopefully 4th gen players might be out na so you can get cheaper 3rd gen players.  Grin
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« Reply #11 on: Sep 18, 2007 at 08:11 PM »

food for thought for those buying online and having stuff shipped through johnny air.

the gen 2 players' shipping weight is 13 lbs. the gen 3 players is 2 lbs. sayang din yun!
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« Reply #12 on: Sep 18, 2007 at 10:19 PM »

the gen 2 players' shipping weight is 13 lbs. the gen 3 players is 2 lbs. sayang din yun!

It's impossible any of the 3rd gen players can be only 2 lbs. I'm sure it's an error unless I'm missing something here. Grin
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« Reply #13 on: Sep 18, 2007 at 10:51 PM »

^ got it from amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000U6AHZW/ref=s9_asin_title_1/103-5806135-7401418?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=06FD8AQGGKHSW63DNM17&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=278240301&pf_rd_i=507846

if you check out the link for the gen 2 models, shipping weight is 13 lbs.

maybe it's because amazon doesn't know yet? (since october pa ang shipping?) hehe
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« Reply #14 on: Sep 18, 2007 at 10:59 PM »

Yes my guess is since those 3rd gen players are pre-order items, thus they don't have the actual items yet or simply the weight info isn't available at this point of time until the products are released. Smiley

Logically speaking, there's no way the shipping weight can weight a merely 2 lbs esp with the player, box, styrofoam protection, manual, battery, cables & remote control added in.  Grin 
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« Reply #15 on: Sep 18, 2007 at 11:32 PM »

last na for tonight, hehe, na-excite lang ako. a seller in AVS forums, is now shipping the HD-A30, and is selling it at US$50 off than the srp of 399. same freebies as amazon.

the A3 is shipping end of september daw.

my question is..since my display is allegedly 1080p, though it is 1024 x 768 lang, ( i have a panasonic 42pv70, btw), do i get the A3 or the A30? i'm no techie, but my understanding is my tv can do 1080p, but isn't really 1080p. it just has some kinda upconverting thing. if such is the case, then i don't really need the A30?
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« Reply #16 on: Sep 18, 2007 at 11:41 PM »

yup it doesn't matter what resolution you feed your tv, it will still have to scale to its native resolution of 1024x768. i doubt you'll notice the difference between 1080i and 1080p
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« Reply #17 on: Sep 19, 2007 at 07:23 AM »

1024 x 768 is quite common among PC monitor widescreen resolution.  Sayang lang 1080p input if indeed it recognizes one.  It will just scale it down to the monitor's native resolution.  And I doubt it accepts 1080p.  Like what ET414 said, you won't be able to distinguish between 1080i and 1080p resolution because the LCD TV is naturally progressive and will upscale 1080i resolution to progressive.  And in your case, downscale it to the native res.  So you really won't be able to take advantage of the A30.  The earlier Toshiba generations can give you just as great pictures. 
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« Reply #18 on: Sep 19, 2007 at 07:49 AM »

last na for tonight, hehe, na-excite lang ako. a seller in AVS forums, is now shipping the HD-A30, and is selling it at US$50 off than the srp of 399. same freebies as amazon.

the A3 is shipping end of september daw.

my question is..since my display is allegedly 1080p, though it is 1024 x 768 lang, ( i have a panasonic 42pv70, btw), do i get the A3 or the A30? i'm no techie, but my understanding is my tv can do 1080p, but isn't really 1080p. it just has some kinda upconverting thing. if such is the case, then i don't really need the A30?

A3 is good enough for the job since your Pana Plasma wiil output at 720P due to its low native resolution. Benefits of 1080P only truly shine on screen higher than 50" and on native 1920x1080 resolution. Undecided Undecided
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« Reply #19 on: Sep 19, 2007 at 09:19 AM »

It's also very hard to distinguish btw 720p vs 1080p if the viewing distance is adjusted properly or with a smaller display size. To take full advantage of the 1080p resolution, your display size has to be at least 50" & above.

Unless you're thinking of investing in a new display panel 1080p in the near future, the 3rd gen HD-A3 will be more than sufficient to meet your current requirement. As av_phile1 said, you can even consider earlier models such as the 2nd gen players...this will also maximize your $ saving & it's available for immediate shipping.  Wink
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« Reply #20 on: Sep 19, 2007 at 10:11 AM »

Yeah.  And with the ongoing promo of Amazon for the 2nd gen Toshiba HD DVD players, you can have bigger savings.
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« Reply #21 on: Sep 19, 2007 at 10:46 PM »

Teething Problems Tongue Tongue Tongue

A30: Doesn't Work for HD DVDs; Multiple Error Codes
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« Reply #22 on: Sep 19, 2007 at 11:42 PM »

Looks like the early bird really cathes the worm... Grin

Probbaly just an isolated case or Toshiba was rushing for the release?  Embarrassed
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« Reply #23 on: Sep 20, 2007 at 03:55 PM »

M just wondering why most HD player manufacturers today remove the COAXIal rather than just to leaVE it there so there will be more audio connection options? and why they seem to prefer the OPTICAL?  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #24 on: Sep 20, 2007 at 05:00 PM »

jerix, don't let that worry you. When correctly connected, Coaxial and Optical should be exactly the same. Bandwidth isn't and issue, error correction (when connected correctly) isn't and issue. Distance, say over 50 feet might lean toward optical but who does that?

For all intents and purposes though, it doesn't make a difference which one you use. Smiley
 
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« Reply #25 on: Sep 20, 2007 at 10:46 PM »

Can anyone order one for me? I'll pay you. I don't know how johnny air works Sad
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« Reply #26 on: Sep 21, 2007 at 01:27 AM »

It's quite easy actually kieron. Do contact JAC  to get the application form. From there they will advise you step by step. You may check out the thread about JAC Smiley
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« Reply #27 on: Sep 21, 2007 at 09:35 AM »

jerix, don't let that worry you. When correctly connected, Coaxial and Optical should be exactly the same. Bandwidth isn't and issue, error correction (when connected correctly) isn't and issue. Distance, say over 50 feet might lean toward optical but who does that?

For all intents and purposes though, it doesn't make a difference which one you use. Smiley
 

yEAH Pchin i understand it is just that i have already 2 - 7 meters long digital coaxial cables and if ever, it seems that i will need to buy similar length of Optical cable again.  Roll Eyes price of optical that long is also higher.  Angry
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« Reply #28 on: Sep 21, 2007 at 10:16 AM »

In this case you can get the higher model such as the Tosh HD-XA2 which has Coaxial connection. I'm sure the 3rd gen players will include coaxial too in its HD-A35. Smiley
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« Reply #29 on: Sep 23, 2007 at 01:17 PM »

wala bang group buy on the A2 or A3?  Grin
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