HDMI vs. Component - What's The Difference?

[rgadingan]

If you think that HDMI is better in terms of picture quality then you have to read this:

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/2007/09/11/hdmi_vs_component/

[pchin]

Nice article rgadingan

There's also another thread discussing HDMI.

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=63491.0

[jerix]

Maybe the difference depends on ones eyes. when i jumped into HDMI i initially saw no significant difference. But after a while, i experimented on going back to COMPONENT. this time i feel something is missing on the PQ of the image. My impression based on my experience: Image in HDMI is clearer, brighter and more details. Maybe its just that my eyes have adjusted too much with the HDMI already. Our eyes are not created equal -- so if one cannot see any difference -- good.

[RXV]

Yung maganda lang sa HDMI, is 1-plug lang (no hassle  )

[pchin]

Yes, it's more convenient to use HDMI cable.

Also, re upscale DVD players, nowdays most of them can only upscale via HDMI.

[Marl☆1]

HDMI definitely over Components.  Comp. cables already had its time under the limelight as it out-shined S-video and S-video likewise as it put to bed our good 'ol RCA jacks.  It's just the usual tech evolution / cycle.  Clearly, digital is the wave of the future and HDMI is the key to opening the gates to HD nirvana. 

[Compaq]

'Hope i'm not hijacking this thread,

Is there really a data loss when using a long HDMI cable? Is 12 to 15-meter HDMI still efficient?  Thanks a lot!

Cheers!!!
Compaq

[jerix]

For HDMI i think its an "all or nothing affair" - so as long as signal is passing through the cable, you get the full of what your source is giving. 

[Mouldingo]

'Hope i'm not hijacking this thread,

Is there really a data loss when using a long HDMI cable? Is 12 to 15-meter HDMI still efficient?  Thanks a lot!

Cheers!!!
Compaq

I use a heavily shielded 15 m HDMI, no loss but incredibly pricey. There are HDMI repeaters and boosters which does job for lower spec cables above 15 feet...

http://www.lenexpo-electronics.com/HDMI-Boosters-Repeaters-p-1-c-344.html

[pchin]

Yes, if budget permits it would be a worthwhile investment (also for the peace of mind) for a HDMI booster for HDMI cable exceeding 15F.

[gearhead]

since i'm using a PJ, that decided my choice to go hdmi. even the component output might be a little better, i don't want to add more to my cable clutter. also, sayang naman upscaling capability ng player ko. 

i'm currently using a 32ft (10m) generic hdmi cable and i don't feel the need to add a cable booster to it. no problem so far.

[jerix]

since i'm using a PJ, that decided my choice to go hdmi. even the component output might be a little better, i don't want to add more to my cable clutter. also, sayang naman upscaling capability ng player ko. 

i'm currently using a 32ft (10m) generic hdmi cable and i don't feel the need to add a cable booster to it. no problem so far.

my feeling is better using the HDMI  but bro where did u get that 10 HDMI cable and how much? thanks

[pchin]

i'm currently using a 32ft (10m) generic hdmi cable and i don't feel the need to add a cable booster to it. no problem so far.

Whoa...that's a long one bro. Great to hear there's no degrade in PQ.

That's a big saving without the HDMI booster. 

[gearhead]

i actually over-compensated in my measurement. now i have it coiled in both ends. planning to get a 7m for less cable clutter more than for better PQ.

[dmaximus]

I don't think thats true. Try Using both in a 1080p projector and you'll see the big difference. That's coming from my friend not me. 

[don]

I'm using a 50ft Gefen HDMI Cable - no booster/repeater if you only need 1080i & below... if you need 1080p they say that you need a booster for 50ft up. (15m>) ...
I have yet to try a comparison.. However, HDMI will give you the peace of mind. hehehe if you have an HDMI capable receiver & upconverter, then HDMI is the way to go.

[av_phile1]

Just like any cable, expect losses due to resistance as you increase the length.  The only way to overcome this is to have thicker gauge cables.  HDMI has 19 thin cables inside.  So if you can find a thicker HDMI cable with thicker gauge for its 19 cables, that should work fine for long runs. Or maybe one using 99% silver of the same gauge.

[MAtZTER]

Bought an Onkyo 705 recently & it has a built in HDMI repeater.

The PQ on my PJ using a 10m generic HDMI cable improved significantly as compred to my recently sold Denon 2807.

I am not 100% sure if its due to the repeater or the Faroudja interlacer of the 705.

The PQ is so cool, I wanna enjoy it for the next few months before I plunge into HD. (36 months? hehe)

[MAtZTER]

Also, I remember many moons ago, before there was even HD, Pchin & I tested a HDMI upscaling dvdp vs a component upscaling DVDp.

Conclusion: it was so just hard to spot the difference between the 2. 

[odyopayl]

HDMI is the best medium for Digital connection if properly implemented. Simply HDMI is pure Digital Signal while Component connection is still Analog form connection.
Our DVD, HD-DVD, Blu-Ray source are pure digital signal we need D/A conversion for the Audio. However, for the Video our FPD display can received pure digital Signal meaning, no need for any conversion. No conversion less error no loss on the connection signal.

[odyopayl]

Also, I remember many moons ago, before there was even HD, Pchin & I tested a HDMI upscaling dvdp vs a component upscaling DVDp.

Conclusion: it was so just hard to spot the difference between the 2. 

Sir Matz, you can see difference clearly if using monitor 40" or higher. BTW, upscaling are difficult to spot the difference with respect to resolution especially when you are using monitor 40" below. You need a source which are definitely 1080p format.

[MAtZTER]

Sir Matz, you can see difference clearly if using monitor 40" or higher. BTW, upscaling are difficult to spot the difference with respect to resolution especially when you are using monitor 40" below. You need a source which are definitely 1080p format.

sir, we tested it on a 96" projector 

Both players can do upscaling to 1080i , one through component (GIEC), one through HDMI (Pchin's Sony). Anyway, maybe the GIEC was really good cuz my Pio600 couldnt beat it in PQ.

Our 2nd test involved my 32" LCD with the sony HDMI dvdp vs. PC thru VGA. PC wins.

[glacierfrost]

Just like any cable, expect losses due to resistance as you increase the length.  The only way to overcome this is to have thicker gauge cables.  HDMI has 19 thin cables inside.  So if you can find a thicker HDMI cable with thicker gauge for its 19 cables, that should work fine for long runs. Or maybe one using 99% silver of the same gauge.

Ako I'm using a hdmi extender using cat5e cables for wiring for my projector. Using it for 20M and no noticeable loss in picture quality. It can also ouput 1080p up to 60M and 1080i up to 120M. Pero I don't think anybody would need that long a cable. Maybe kung gusto mo iplay ang BD player na nasa 2rd floor tapos may TV ka sa 1st floor. But the best thing about it is that it is cheaper to use the cat5e extender than buy a 20M cable. Aside from difficulty in sourcing a cable that long, long cables above 10M usually cost a fortune. ouch!

[odyopayl]

Ako I'm using a hdmi extender using cat5e cables for wiring for my projector. Using it for 20M and no noticeable loss in picture quality. It can also ouput 1080p up to 60M and 1080i up to 120M. Pero I don't think anybody would need that long a cable. Maybe kung gusto mo iplay ang BD player na nasa 2rd floor tapos may TV ka sa 1st floor. But the best thing about it is that it is cheaper to use the cat5e extender than buy a 20M cable. Aside from difficulty in sourcing a cable that long, long cables above 10M usually cost a fortune. ouch!

This is the cheapest way to extend your HDMI. However, when you are using this cat5 cable for about more than 30ft there is degradation in PQ base on our experience, maybe the shielding (this are only twisted for shielding) they should be separated from any power source.

[glacierfrost]

This is the cheapest way to extend your HDMI. However, when you are using this cat5 cable for about more than 30ft there is degradation in PQ base on our experience, maybe the shielding (this are only twisted for shielding) they should be separated from any power source.

I'm using it for 20M and I don't think there is PQ degradation. Tried with a 5M cable before mounting the PJ and I did not notice any degradation in PQ. I ran the cat5e cables through the walls so maybe it minimized the intereference? Did you use regular cat5 cable? Mine specifically says to use either cat5e or cat6 cables. Maybe cat5 cable is not fast enough for hdmi?