What we should look for in a Bluray Player

[oReOsHaKe]

Sir may I know where you can get panasonic bd30 for 18 to 20k, Is that just list price without shipping, brand new? I know they are around 499 usd and locally parang nobody sells that low. Pls let me know where bec Im interested thanks..

@ ebay.com po sir..

http://cgi.ebay.ph/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=350053492509&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=022

[mars]

Sir, I just took a look at the link. Apparently, wala siyang hdmi out and DVD Region 1 ang coding. Kung sabagay, may way na siguro to make it region-free. Regards.

[oReOsHaKe]

Sir, I just took a look at the link. Apparently, wala siyang hdmi out and DVD Region 1 ang coding. Kung sabagay, may way na siguro to make it region-free. Regards.

All Pana BD30 has HDMI port po.. If you buy the Pana BD30 sa US, Region 1 DVDs lang ang puwede mo i-play.  If you buy it sa Asia, then you can play Region 3 DVDs only.  But both US or Asian version Pana BD30 can play Region A Blu-ray discs.  There is still no way to make any Blu-ray player region free for DVD playing but fortunately, US and Asia has the same region coding for Blu-ray playback so whether you buy your blu-ray movie sa US or sa Asia, u can still play it on your Blu-ray player. 

[mars]

All Pana BD30 has HDMI port po.. If you buy the Pana BD30 sa US, Region 1 DVDs lang ang puwede mo i-play.  If you buy it sa Asia, then you can play Region 3 DVDs only.  But both US or Asian version Pana BD30 can play Region A Blu-ray discs.  There is still no way to make any Blu-ray player region free for DVD playing but fortunately, US and Asia has the same region coding for Blu-ray playback so whether you buy your blu-ray movie sa US or sa Asia, u can still play it on your Blu-ray player. 

Ah ok. I stand corrected bro. Meron pala. I just missed it sa pic.

[Mouldingo]

The biggest letdown of the BD 30 is that it won't upscale SD DVD. It will upconvert to 1080p. The SD DVD picture quality just looks awful. It also cannot play DIVX files.

[oReOsHaKe]

The biggest letdown of the BD 30 is that it won't upscale SD DVD. It will upconvert to 1080p. The SD DVD picture quality just looks awful. It also cannot play DIVX files.

It does upscale SD DVD as stated in the BD30 Manual.

HDMI Resolution:
≥Auto: Automatically selects the output resolution best suited to the connected television (1080p, 1080i, 720p or 480p).
≥480p
≥720p
≥1080i
≥1080p

Component Video Resolution:
This sets the video output resolution when using the component video terminal.
≥480i
≥480p
≥720p
≥1080i

[oReOsHaKe]

The SD DVD picture quality just looks awful. It also cannot play DIVX files.

Do you have the BD30 na bro?  Review naman dyan.. 

[Mouldingo]

Do you have the BD30 na bro?  Review naman dyan.. 

Got this little toy from Amazon 


Panasonic DMP-BD30K




Panasonic DMP-BD30K
Toshiba A35
Denon AVR 3808



Quick load and play than other BD players. Best PQ of all BD players, no playback issues. Just don't use it as a SD DVD player, OK?

[oReOsHaKe]

Got this little toy from Amazon 


Panasonic DMP-BD30K




Panasonic DMP-BD30K
Toshiba A35
Denon AVR 3808



Quick load and play than other BD players. Best PQ of all BD players, no playback issues. Just don't use it as a SD DVD player, OK?

Thats good.. How come you told us it only upconverts to 1080p?  Kaya siguro u say PQ is awful because u haven't configured it well for the size of your TV yet.. I read good reviews regarding its good upconversion of SD-DVD, in fact, the reviews say its as good or better than PS3 upconversion of SD DVD.

[Mouldingo]

Thats good.. How come you told us it only upconverts to 1080p?  Kaya siguro u say PQ is awful because u haven't configured it well for the size of your TV yet.. I read good reviews regarding its good upconversion of SD-DVD, in fact, the reviews say its as good or better than PS3 upconversion of SD DVD.

Upscaling and upconversion are two different things sir.

Kindly look over my Full HD setup before SPECULATING on my observations.

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=36863.0

I would not advise using the DMP-BD30 as a primary upconverting DVD player at all.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/1184

Like most HD players on the market, the Panasonic DMP-BD30 delivers poor standard DVD playback that is not indicative of its price point. While I was more than happy with its Blu-ray playback capabilities, I would still suggest looking elsewhere for high end DVD playback or keeping your dedicated DVD player if you already have one.

www.hometheaterhifi.com

[streetsmart]

I also have a BD 30 and its pq and sq are excellent. But as Mouldingo says, its not very good for video processing of SD. The only HD player I know that is good at that is the Toshiba HD-XA2.

[oReOsHaKe]

Upscaling and upconversion are two different things sir.

Kindly look over my Full HD setup before SPECULATING on my observations.

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=36863.0

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/1184
 

www.hometheaterhifi.com

I guess Ill go for the OPPO 980H then for upconversion of SD DVD then...  

[pchin]

Upscaling and upconversion are two different things sir.

Bro, I always got mixed up btw this two....hope you can clarify these tnx

[oReOsHaKe]

Bro, I always got mixed up btw this two....hope you can clarify these tnx

Ako rin Paul.. hehehehe.. I thought they were the same animal..

Here's a primer on Upscaling vs Upconversion:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=477740

As I understand from this article, they are the same animal actually... 

[Mouldingo]

Upconversion-
An upconverting DVD player, for the uninitiated, is like a supercharger for home theaters. The player takes the DVD's meager 720x480 (480i) resolution and jacks it up to 720p or 1080i.

Upscaling-
Mom used to say, “It’s what’s on the inside that counts.” Upscalers are no exception. The single most crucial component (i.e., the “brain” of the player) is the video-processing chip. The task of ensuring that what you see on the HDTV screen accurately depicts the source material of what’s on the DVD is incredibly complex. Lesser chips need not apply.

The two main duties of the video chip are deinterlacing and scaling. But first, how about a crash refresher course in video resolution? Video on DVD is in 480i resolution, in which 30 still frames are displayed on a TV in two fields of 240 horizontal lines, every second. The “i” stands for “interlaced,” which means the entire frame of video is composed of the two passes of alternating horizontal lines of resolution interlaced together. A resolution of 480i was sufficient on smaller TVs, but the flaws in the interlaced, lower-resolution video become more apparent on larger displays. Increased space between the alternating scan lines can produce a flicker, and details suffer.
Factors such as fast on-screen motion, rapid scene transitions, and video noise from the source material can produce the aforementioned jaggies, visible pixilation (i.e., the “screen door effect”), and color shifting. A powerful, well-integrated video processor will eliminate, or at least minimize, these eyesores.

CONCLUSION
The BD30 upconverts SD DVD signal to 1080P but does not upscale the eyesores.

[oReOsHaKe]

Bro, I always got mixed up btw this two....hope you can clarify these tnx

Here's a simple explanation Paul:

Upscaling changes the resolution (480 to 720, etc.)

Upconverting changes the carrier signal (rca to component, analog to HDMI, etc)

Upconverting can also change from interlaced to progressive but will not alter resolution (480i to 480p, etc.)

[pchin]

Copy that! Thanks for the clear explanation guys 

[Mouldingo]

Thats good.. How come you told us it only upconverts to 1080p?  Kaya siguro u say PQ is awful because u haven't configured it well for the size of your TV yet.. I read good reviews regarding its good upconversion of SD-DVD, in fact, the reviews say its as good or better than PS3 upconversion of SD DVD.

As I understand from this article, they are the same animal actually... 

Upscaling changes the resolution (480 to 720, etc.)

Upconverting changes the carrier signal (rca to component, analog to HDMI, etc)

Upconverting can also change from interlaced to progressive but will not alter resolution (480i to 480p, etc.)

I hope you'll research more before you start drawing conclusion on your own next time...

[oReOsHaKe]

I hope you'll research more before you start drawing conclusion on your own next time...

That's what I got from AVSforum po...

Here's the definition from Wikipedia.com

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upconverting

You will notice that terms "upscaling" and "upconverting" are being used interchangeably.. Even folks in AVSforum use these terms interchangeably..

[pchin]

I have checked a few HT books & they do seem using the term interchangeably.

Upscaling refers to the manipulation of the video resolution. e.g. my DVD player can upscale DVD source to 1080p.

Upconverting does seem to refer "the state of the final video resolution" when it reaches the video display. e.g. my player output 480p but it's upconverted to 1080p to match my LCD native resolution. This can also used for the carrier signal as mentioned by oReOsHaKe earlier. 

[Moks007]

Thanks oreoshake for the link in ebay..I have one of the latest issues of home cinema and they reviewed the oppo 981 and it beats the bd30 in upconverting sddvd in all tests.

[oReOsHaKe]

Thanks oreoshake for the link in ebay..I have one of the latest issues of home cinema and they reviewed the oppo 981 and it beats the bd30 in upconverting sddvd in all tests.

BD30 is getting more expensive even in EBAY.. Reviews seem to conclude that the OPPO line of DVD players is really superior when it comes to SD DVD upscaling.. But BD30 playback of Blu-ray DVDs is superb.. That's why the best combo is to get an Oppo DVD player for SD DVD playback and a BD30 or BD50 for Blu-ray playback, I guess.  I don't need the PS3 since I don't play games..   

[Mouldingo]

Got my BD-30 on the cheap at US$406 from 6th Avenue when the exchange was 41.20. Had it shipped only with the original packaging, so it came out around 4k freight, against 7k if it was in a double box.

[Moks007]

BD30 is getting more expensive even in EBAY.. Reviews seem to conclude that the OPPO line of DVD players is really superior when it comes to SD DVD upscaling.. But BD30 playback of Blu-ray DVDs is superb.. That's why the best combo is to get an Oppo DVD player for SD DVD playback and a BD30 or BD50 for Blu-ray playback, I guess.  I don't need the PS3 since I don't play games..   

Owning a standalone is really ecstasy for me ..When I purchased the toshiba a30 and a35, I was really overwhelmed with joy. Of course not as happy bec hddvd lost ..But really iba talaga standalone. Ps3 is built tough, but I would still choose a standalone. Thats just me. I'm just waiting for more price drops to get a standalone and use the ps3 for games and some backup as bd player