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DVD Forum => General DVD Discussion => Archived Piracy Topics => Topic started by: DViant on Jun 12, 2003 at 12:35 PM
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That question has been asked to me a lot of times. How about you? Why do you buy orig when there's pirated DVDs going for a tenth of the cost?
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video and audio quality. :)
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pirated discs are not a viable option as they have to been as a cheap imitation of the real thing. as with fakes, even if they look original; you can't shake the feeling that's somethings missing. in the case of pdvds, this comes at the expense of the video, audio quality which are compressed and special features that are eliminated.
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I buy orig DVD kung I like the movie and on sale ;D
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It better in all aspect except for the price.
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Quality. Nothing beats the real thing. ;)
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its the decent thing to do ;)
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In terms of audio and video qualities, is there a difference with pDVD9s? (pDVD5s obviously have lower audio and video qualties). And is it true nakakasira daw ng player ang pirated DVDs?
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For complete special features.
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Because the people who made these movies deserve to be paid for their efforts, just like any single person on this board who goes to work in the morning expect to get paid.
They work hard to bring this product to you and for me to NOT buy orig it means I would be robbing these people of their intellectual property and their right to make a living.
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for me... it's all in the packaging...
and the special features...
and the video quality...
oh yeah, not to mention the audio...
plus it doesn't have those weird people standing up then walking across the screen... :)
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I started in April 2001 with pirated discs. Back then, p-discs were bit-perfect replicas of the real thing. In fact, wala pa ngang mga dvd-5 noon. Would you believe, may mga insert pa? - talo pa nga ang Viva!
As expected, the quality of subsequently-released pirated titles quickly deteriorated. Lahat na ng klase ng depekto makikita mo sa mga japeyks: madilim ang video, severe pixellation, out-of-sync ang audio, humihina ang audio during scenes where the sound should be much louder (e.g.: explosions), sobrang lakas (distorted) ang LFE, skipping, hanging, etc., etc., etc., ad nauseam.
Sabi ng vendor, papalitan pag may sira. Kaya lang, magsasawa ka naman kakapalit at kakapabalik-balik. Bakit nga ba hindi, e sira din yung binibigay na kapalit. Minsan nga, nakabili ako ng defective disc sa Greenhills; nang bumalik ako para magpapalit, wala na yung binilhan ko!
Sa sobrang buwiset, original na lang ang binibili ko. Walang problema. May delivery pa sa mga R1 (suki ako ni Parc).
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1. because of the glamore that it brings.
2. audio and video quality (only for those with HT setup)
3. to protect legitimate businesses (astrovision) :P
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I guess because it's the only thing available where I'm at.
But then again, I would only want origs because just like other things, you get what you pay for... ;)
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video and audio quality, packaging and presentation ... :)
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video and audio quality, packaging and presentation ... :)
Same thing here. Minsan napaka-brittle ng case ng pirated DVDs. Minsan naman mali-mali yung synposis nung film. As with the original, me kasama pang scene index list whereas wala nun sa P-DVD. :)
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Well, you can just be very picky with the titles to buy and for rent only because of the price when you buy orig. Just look at your collection if you have halo na orig and pirated. Parang gusto mong tanggalin at itago ang pirated at dapat ang mga nakikita lang eh mga orig.
If you buy pirated, since madami kang nabibili, problem is storing them. Minsan nga sa sobrang mura eh gusto ko lang panooring at itapon na para hindi magcluclutter at maging space occupying. Anyway, it is nothing to be proud of and for display.
And....buying orig is the right thing to do. If you want to watch lang naman, you do not have to buy....just rent it out.
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Minsan nga sa sobrang mura eh gusto ko lang panooring at itapon na para hindi magcluclutter at maging space occupying.
Naku! Eh isa pa palang makuwarta itong si boss nirv! Parang nagtatapon nang $$$ ;D
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;D ;D ;D
Another important question is why not buy the fake ones?
Simple. I don't buy the fake ones kasi, I like my DVD clear and crisps in terms of videa and audio. I don't like the missing features. I hate the wrong subtitles provided in fake DVDs and lastly I don't support Piracy coz I'm no pirate!
Why settle for less when you can buy the orig at a sale price! ;)
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One of the really annoying things ppl radiate towards you is that "ang yaman mo". If you do right it means you're rich? Another oxymoron... ;)
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ya.. ::) its matter of choice lang nman.. ;D i buy orig..coz its simply the best..
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One of the really annoying things ppl radiate towards you is that "ang yaman mo". If you do right it means you're rich? Another oxymoron... ;)
Maybe its always that way when you consider the price of an original DVD from the pirated. But then, for me buying original DVDs can always take the backseat if I'm getting financially short--and I have two mouths to feed.
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Toti- Hindi naman. One of the problems with collecting DVDs is storage. And mahirap din magtago ng mga gamit na walang resale value. Yung orig DVDs pwede mo pang ibenta in the future....
That's just me though
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Buying original dvds are like investment in the future.
While pirated discs you can just scatter it around in your house and wala value after you watch it.
And Nirvblakr is right! Mahirap itago and when you display it with the ORIGS, ang laki ng difference, parang may inferiority complex or racial discrimination.
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For the sheer joy of having the orig copies of the movies you truly love.So when you are asked by anybody what movie you love best, you can,a after identifying it, easily say that" i have a copy of that!".
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yup, mas ok yung orig. kaso ang worry ko lang, baka maging obsolete ito just like what happened to laser disc :'(
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For me, it must be the Video encoding. At least I know I'm getting the best possible video quality for that movie, pdiscs, kasi tend to lower the video encoding so that it would fit on a DVD-5. And of course DTS/DD titles, on Pdiscs usually takeout one audio track to fit into the DVD-5.
Original the best, Quality, Complete features, Value for Money, and of course integrity.
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Quality on audio and video, at isa pa lagi namang may sale so why not wait for the sale and just add a few bucks, then marami ding nag bebenta nang 2nd hand na talagang mura ;D
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Quality? I think there's no diff between the orig and the peyk except on DTS coded discs - parang hindi kuha completely ng peyk ang DTS coding... that's why I buy orig!!!
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Quality of Audio and Video - most of the pirated DVDs being sold only have single layer disc which means they downgrade the quality of both audio and video.
Another thing is the special features and lastly the packaging and inserts.
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Quality? I think there's no diff between the orig and the peyk except on DTS coded discs - parang hindi kuha completely ng peyk ang DTS coding... that's why I buy orig!!!
Actually there is a difference in quality, to test, play and compare the "peyk" and an Orgiinal copy, using a software DVD player, there is a setting wherein you can display the actual encoding of the disc, it will show you the bitrate. And also if you view the disc with your computer you will be able to see the compression of the picture since a computer monitor has a higher resolution than a standard TV (740x480 interlaced).
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Quality? I think there's no diff between the orig and the peyk except on DTS coded discs - parang hindi kuha completely ng peyk ang DTS coding... that's why I buy orig!!!
There’s a very big difference in video quality. Even without the bitrate figure, you can notice with your bare eyes that the difference is evident. I have Gladiator DVDs (1 is original and the other is p*copy), and you can see that the original is very clear, bright and detail, especially in the dark scenes.
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my... what good eyes you have ;D
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my... what good eyes you have ;D
In most cases, having DVD playback on a standard TV, video compression artifacts are barely noticed, if you use a high quality display HD, or Projection TV, Plasma, and Front Projectors, naturally you get a bigger more blown up picture, making the details clearer, same goes for compression artifacts, they would be more evident on bigger TVs.
Although this is case to case with P* discs, some leave the video as is same as the original, but remove, special features, commentaries and other audio tracks to fit on a standard DVD-5.
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I just started collecting originals, I used to buy lots of pirated ones. The 4 most common reasons for buying orig are: Packaging, Audio-Video Quality, Intellectual Property Rights, and "Re-Sale" Value. For me, the most significant is the last one ("re-sale"). Let's tackle them one by one:
1. Packaging - No doubt packaging is a lot better with original DVDs, but...would you pay additional 500-800 pesos just for packaging?... Let's move on.
2. Audio-Video Quality - Yup, there IS A difference. it actually depends on what set-up you have. If you have surround sound and widescreen TV, you can see the difference... But then, some pirated DVD5s are very close copies of the original, especially the MCD copies of shorter films (less than 100 minutes). Furthermore, if you get a pDVD9, mataas din ang bitrate and almost no difference with the original. So this reasoning wasn't enough to convince me.
3. Intellectual property rights - Much has been said about this, but ask yourself "Have you ever photocopied a page from any book in your life?" If you haven't then you deserve an award. If you have, then let's stop being so self-righteous and admit that we are all guilty of piracy in one form or another. As long as people think practical, we cannot stop this. As Morpheus would say, "Welcome to the real world."
4. "Re-Sale" Value - Well, this is what finally convinced me. After logging in to this site, I realized that DVDs are just like comicbooks or NBA trading cards. They are collector's items and can be re-sold. If you get tired of watching or if you need some fast cash, you can always sell them at 100 or 200 pesos less than the price you bought it. Some DVDs can even be sold at a much higher price (e.g. Ultimate Jordan). And if you get to buy a second hand DVD at a bargain, you can even sell it slightly higher after watching it once. He-he. Unfortunately, yung pirated, di mo pwede ibenta.
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<SNIP>4. "Re-Sale" Value - <SNIP> Unfortunately, yung pirated, di mo pwede ibenta.
Final answer? :P
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I buy original and pirated DVDs ;)
reasons why I buy original titles:
lots of extra features, a/v quality, If I really love the movie or the movie has a sentimental value kahit barebones basta orig, if the movie is included on dvdangle's "must see dvd" list siyempre dapat orig din ;D
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I buy original and pirated DVDs ;)
reasons why I buy original titles:
lots of extra features, a/v quality, If I really love the movie or the movie has a sentimental value kahit barebones basta orig, if the movie is included on dvdangle's "must see dvd" list siyempre dapat orig din ;D
eto ang sprite drinker! :)
same here. pag tops sa list ng imdb and wsr - they should be original! walt disneys should be original. DTS discs should be original...
magpakatotoo ka 8)
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3. Intellectual property rights - Much has been said about this, but ask yourself "Have you ever photocopied a page from any book in your life?" If you haven't then you deserve an award. If you have, then let's stop being so self-righteous and admit that we are all guilty of piracy in one form or another. As long as people think practical, we cannot stop this. As Morpheus would say, "Welcome to the real world."
The unauthorized reproduction of one page from a book is not necessarily illegal.
Section 187 of RA 8293 (Intellectual Property Code) states:
Section 187. Reproduction of Published Work. -
187.1. Notwithstanding the provision of Section 177, and subject to the provisions of Subsection 187.2, the private reproduction of a published work in a single copy, where the reproduction is made by a natural person exclusively for research and private study, shall be permitted, without the authorization of the owner of copyright in the work.
187.2. The permission granted under Subsection 187.1 shall not extend to the reproduction of:
(a) A work of architecture in the form of building or other construction;
(b) An entire book, or a substantial part thereof, or of a musical work in graphic form by reprographic means;
(c) A compilation of data and other materials;
(d) A computer program except as provided in Section 189; and
(e) Any work in cases where reproduction would unreasonably conflict with a normal exploitation of the work or would otherwise unreasonably prejudice the legitimate interests of the author.
Hence, the unauthorized reproduction by a natural person (i.e.: not a corporation, registered partnership/association, etc.) of an unsubstantial portion of a book in a single copy exclusively for research and private study is not prohibited.
However, nicomd has raised a good point, and I'm sure we all got it. I, for one, agree with him.
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why do you think IT's fluorishing [thriving is an understatement kasi!]? kasi me mga KUMIKITA! kahit sa singapore, indonesia at malaysia, ang lakas NIYAN!!!
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eto ang sprite drinker! :)
same here. pag tops sa list ng imdb and wsr - they should be original! walt disneys should be original. DTS discs should be original...
magpakatotoo ka 8)
umiinom din po ako ng H20, Coke, Milo...he! he! he! ;D ;D ;D
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corny pero honest ;D
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I buy orig DVDs (R1 and R3s) for some or combination of ff reasons:
(1) I like the title a lot
(2) Classics, animation and Titles that I feel (confirmed by internet reviews) are and can be considered classics and can benefit next generations. (until HD-DVD comes along)
(3) Mas magandang packaging (except most Viva and some new Magnavision titles on sale)
(4) Titles with DTS tracks, Superbit rekeases
(5) Double disc releases (wala atang peyk na double disc)
(6) Hindi available sa underground, hehe ;D
Pag naiisip ko yung HD-DVD will come to us in 5 years time, parang hindi worth getting origs as an investment. Palagay ko pag may HD-DVD na, yung second hand DVD origs will sell for 20 pesos na lang each. Exchge rate: $1 to P80)
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I buy orig DVDs (R1 and R3s) for some or combination of ff reasons:
(1) I like the title a lot
(2) Classics, animation and Titles that I feel (confirmed by internet reviews) are and can be considered classics and can benefit next generations. (until HD-DVD comes along)
(3) Mas magandang packaging (except most Viva and some new Magnavision titles on sale)
(4) Titles with DTS tracks, Superbit rekeases
(5) Double disc releases (wala atang peyk na double disc)
(6) Hindi available sa underground, hehe ;D
Pag naiisip ko yung HD-DVD will come to us in 5 years time, parang hindi worth getting origs as an investment. Palagay ko pag may HD-DVD na, yung second hand DVD origs will sell for 20 pesos na lang each. Exchge rate: $1 to P80)
;D
hehehe. i like that part about the hd-dvd... anyway, that's life. old stuff remains your collection. dami ko ngang LD sa bahay eh. one thing that's cool with the LD is the size and all are originals 8) My wife and I actually treasures them LP sized video discs ;D
i think we have the same criteria for buying originals. for talkies, we usually get original VCDs na lang...
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Pag naiisip ko yung HD-DVD will come to us in 5 years time, parang hindi worth getting origs as an investment. Palagay ko pag may HD-DVD na, yung second hand DVD origs will sell for 20 pesos na lang each. Exchge rate: $1 to P80)
Expect the Foreign Exchange to be P59 to $1. Our currency devaluates a peso per year.
I am actually waiting for the time when people will start dumping there original DVD box sets. Yung tipong tig $50-100+ ngayon pero tig P20 5 years from now. :)
That's why I love buying pre-owned original discs. You get a bargain and you know what you're buying is in good condition because most of us know how to treat our DVDs right!
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Expect the Foreign Exchange to be P59 to $1. Our currency devaluates a peso per year.
I am actually waiting for the time when people will start dumping there original DVD box sets. Yung tipong tig $50-100+ ngayon pero tig P20 5 years from now. :)
That's why I love buying pre-owned original discs. You get a bargain and you know what you're buying is in good condition because most of us know how to treat our DVDs right!
Good buying tactic, I might do that one of these days na rin.
I hope you're right on the devaluation. Naisip ko lang between 1997 and 2002, 5 years, nag-devalue ang peso from 27 to 52, almost 100%. Hopefully wala nang another currency crises. ;D
Anyway, back to topic, come 2008, if we're still alive, magkaka-interest ka pa kaya sa mga old DVD issues, say a Toy Story Box set, kahit P20 na lang, if there's already a Super Duper Deluxe Director's Cut Special Commemorative Anniversary Platinum ek-ek edition Toy Story boxed set in glorious HD-DVD? Just curious. :)
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for talkies, we usually get original VCDs na lang...
I was into orig VCDs too for talkies and so-so titles. About 6 months into DVDs i was still buying VCDs especially when Astro slashed the prices to P150 each.
Until I discovered the DVD peyks. ;D
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Good buying tactic, I might do that one of these days na rin.
I hope you're right on the devaluation. Naisip ko lang between 1997 and 2002, 5 years, nag-devalue ang peso from 27 to 52, almost 100%. Hopefully wala nang another currency crises. ;D
Anyway, back to topic, come 2008, if we're still alive, magkaka-interest ka pa kaya sa mga old DVD issues, say a Toy Story Box set, kahit P20 na lang, if there's already a Super Duper Deluxe Director's Cut Special Commemorative Anniversary Platinum ek-ek edition Toy Story boxed set in glorious HD-DVD? Just curious. :)
If I recall correctly our currency started to devalue in the late 40s and early 50s once we've attainted indepedence from the US and slowly declined to it's present level. We've been indepent for over 50 years so halos P1 to 1 year. I honestly dislike this trend as it makes imported basic necessities expensive. Basic commodities like fuel, food & DVDs. :)
I expect to be alive for most of this century unless something bad happens. Nasa dugo namin tumagal hangang 90s even if we smoke. ;)
I would still be interested with the Star Trek TV episode Season boxsets. Those things cost $100 per season. If I get them for P100 I'd be soo happy! :) Yung resolutiion ng TV ngayon 480i which is DVD and not 1080p. :)
For movies I'd insist on HD-DVD 1080i/p resolution as by that it'll be as cheap as SDTVs and DVD players and media.
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a bit of digression, i wonder when the day will come when there is one common currency so we don't have to deal with inequalities of currency fluctuations...
not sure what the economists in the house would say but is that feasible?
i thought currency drift really became significant when currencies were taken out of the gold peg.
i wish we can do a malaysian approach of putting a currency peg.
in the end, more and more we will end up having to shell more just to enjoy some of the original commodities like dvds and electronics...
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The problem of having a single universal worldwide currency is you'd loose your control over our nations financial destiny. I remember that a S. American country ditched its currency for the US and it didnt do the country any good and yet we have the Euro of the EU where in it greatly eased the problems of having multiple currencies.
Eventually we could see ASEAN adapt a regional currency. It could be a step towards the right or wrong direction.
Expect prices of single or double disc DVDs to go down. The media companies need to compete with the pirates & as time passes on more people will have players & will demand more DVD thus pushing down the prices even further.
that's how I see it anyways.
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I would still be interested with the Star Trek TV episode Season boxsets. Those things cost $100 per season. If I get them for P100 I'd be soo happy! :) Yung resolutiion ng TV ngayon 480i which is DVD and not 1080p. :)
If i'm not mistaken, those made-for TV episodes and movies are taken by digital cameras set to the highest possible resolution. No conversions are made in the transfers to DVD like Bug's Life and Toy Story. Unlike movies where optical cameras are still used and conversion to digital is taken prior to any media transfers.
Hence, even TV episodes at this time can go 1080p for HD-DVD in the future.
I read elsewhere that a 1080p HDTV will make existing DVDs look garbage by comparison to HD-DVD. The difference would be like VCD vs DVD today.
My point: Once HD-DVDs become a reality and even when either SACD or DVD-A becomes mature, we'd all be stuck with a library of original CDs and DVDs without much resale value or few takers in the pre-owned market. The situation of LPs and turntables today in the midst of the digital age would be heaven compared to 5 years down the road for CDs and DVDs.
Don't get me wrong, am not advocating veering away from origs. But i can't help thinking the new formats, coming within the next 3-5 years, will make life for an audio-video phile like me very exciting, if not financially poorer. And people who patronized the peyks might look back and claim they had better wisdom and forsight than those who went for origs.
So the argument that origs can command resale value is only valid while DVDs still reign supreme. Expecting the same demand once HD-DVDs set in is something else.
Well, this is one of those things when proving I am wrong would be most welcome.
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Based on the last few posts, it seems that we are not answering the question "Why do we buy orig?", but instead offering why we should do the contrary. Since I am just a new collector, I'm getting more discouraged with what I'm reading. Does that mean that with the advent of HD-DVDs, it's NOT WORTH collecting the present orig DVDs?
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Based on the last few posts, it seems that we are not answering the question "Why do we buy orig?", but instead offering why we should do the contrary. Since I am just a new collector, I'm getting more discouraged with what I'm reading. Does that mean that with the advent of HD-DVDs, it's NOT WORTH collecting the present orig DVDs?
You've hit my present dilemna.
But rather than stop buying origs, I'd dispose of those I buy after enjoying then, rather than keep them for long, while the demand is there, before HD-DVDs become a mature medium in the Phils.
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Like I've said before, anything that is obsolete becomes your collection. Don't get too hung up with what's coming in the future. After HD-DVD... holographics?! Sheesh! Take one day at a time, dudes!!! I will continue to buy them DVDs/VCDs and enjoy them today while I'm still alive, if it comes out in HD-DVD, then, I'll buy them again, if I'm still alive and 'can afford'! Life goes on...
Being an audiophile and a videophile myself, wala pa ring tatalo pag nakanood ka ng isang malupit na film na kahit pipitsuging display at earphones ang gamit mo eh mahigpit ang grip niya sa iyo... yan ang CRIMSON TIDE... one damn very good movie for me!!!
off topic na naman :P
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Like I've said before, anything that is obsolete becomes your collection. Don't get too hung up with what's coming in the future. After HD-DVD... holographics?! Sheesh! Take one day at a time, dudes!!! I will continue to buy them DVDs/VCDs and enjoy them today while I'm still alive, if it comes out in HD-DVD, then, I'll buy them again, if I'm still alive and 'can afford'! Life goes on...
yup, you're right. that's life, expecially for collectors like us. Now i can understand why i look at my grandparent's house as a museum. Eventually, my kids' children will look at mine as one, too.
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Like I've said before, anything that is obsolete becomes your collection. Don't get too hung up with what's coming in the future. After HD-DVD... holographics?! Sheesh! Take one day at a time, dudes!!! I will continue to buy them DVDs/VCDs and enjoy them today while I'm still alive, if it comes out in HD-DVD, then, I'll buy them again, if I'm still alive and 'can afford'! Life goes on...
Being an audiophile and a videophile myself, wala pa ring tatalo pag nakanood ka ng isang malupit na film na kahit pipitsuging display at earphones ang gamit mo eh mahigpit ang grip niya sa iyo... yan ang CRIMSON TIDE... one d**n very good movie for me!!!
off topic na naman :P
Yeah! I totally agree with Dogears ;D I mean its just like, computers or PCs you know they are always going to develop something faster or better, but that would not be a point if you need a computer now, if you hesistate since may lalabas na mas mabilis you'll end up without a computer. (kasi naman never ending ang upgrade ng technology) so Enjoy what you can afford now. Enjoy what DVD has to offer since thats whats available now. when HD-DVD is availabe then start a new collection, I'm sure DVD players of the future would be backwards compatible with older DVDs just like how a DVD would read a CD, so your current DVD collection wont go to waste.
But if you want something close to HD-DVD with using current DVDs... heheheh here I go again... HTPC Baby!!! HTPC is currently the only way to get as close to near HD quality without the use of special DVDs. Not really HD but close enough for you to see a difference. Like night and day...
sorry off topic :P
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If i'm not mistaken, those made-for TV episodes and movies are taken by digital cameras set to the highest possible resolution. No conversions are made in the transfers to DVD like Bug's Life and Toy Story. Unlike movies where optical cameras are still used and conversion to digital is taken prior to any media transfers.
Hence, even TV episodes at this time can go 1080p for HD-DVD in the future.
I read elsewhere that a 1080p HDTV will make existing DVDs look garbage by comparison to HD-DVD. The difference would be like VCD vs DVD today.
My point: Once HD-DVDs become a reality and even when either SACD or DVD-A becomes mature, we'd all be stuck with a library of original CDs and DVDs without much resale value or few takers in the pre-owned market. The situation of LPs and turntables today in the midst of the digital age would be heaven compared to 5 years down the road for CDs and DVDs.
Don't get me wrong, am not advocating veering away from origs. But i can't help thinking the new formats, coming within the next 3-5 years, will make life for an audio-video phile like me very exciting, if not financially poorer. And people who patronized the peyks might look back and claim they had better wisdom and forsight than those who went for origs.
So the argument that origs can command resale value is only valid while DVDs still reign supreme. Expecting the same demand once HD-DVDs set in is something else.
Well, this is one of those things when proving I am wrong would be most welcome.
We're drifting off topic but here goes. HD cameras & media didn't exhist during the 80s & most of the 90s so recorded at 480i. The only way old TV shows can be bumped up to HDTV is if it were recorded using conventional film as it has unlimited resolution.
Do not worry about your DVD collection being obsolete. Expect the format to stick around for another decade or so. Unlike LDs, DVDs are enjoying more popularity than VHS and we all know how long VHS lasted dont we? Until now VHS is still popular due to to its install base. Using that same line of logic expect the Studios to keep selling DVDs for at least another 10 years as consumers are stubborn to switch formats and there is still unresolved controversies with the next standard format.
As someone on the list said. If you hesitate the world will pass you by & you havent watched your movies. :)
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But if you want something close to HD-DVD with using current DVDs... heheheh here I go again... HTPC Baby!!! HTPC is currently the only way to get as close to near HD quality without the use of special DVDs. Not really HD but close enough for you to see a difference. Like night and day...
sorry off topic :P
Good point...
Yes, it's the best way to go if you don't have the pesoses to get the progressive display. Dati pang ina-advocate ito sa VIDEO at WSR.
For HD naman, I've seen it already and your HTPC will not even come close! It's that good and its really a big leap from what DVD can hold right now!!
HTPC is cool! but HD is *&%$#!!! ;D You just have to see it 8)
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To others who are disheartened with the previous posts, DO NOT! If you are a collector, continue on collecting those origs. Whenever a new format comes out, restrain yourself from buying those old titles but buy those new and upcoming titles so hindi magkadoble doble ang collection mo.
For example...having Terminator 2 in VHS, VCD and DVD is uncalled for even if they hold back some special features to appear in a new collectors edition. Don't tell me you are going to buy T2 on HD-DVD. I just think of it as a marketing strategy lalo na kung maganda ang packaging. Once you have a copy don't buy the same title on a new format.
This keeps you from spending more....
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yup, mas ok yung orig. kaso ang worry ko lang, baka maging obsolete ito just like what happened to laser disc :'(
laser discs were large, cumbersome and more prone to scratching than dvds. they were also prone to laser rot which is totally different from dvd rot (which seems to be the problem of the manufacturer rather than dvd itself). the performance gap between laser disc and dvds is exactly like the one between lps and cds. although dvhs and hdvd are superior to dvd, the gap isn't that large. also, improvements like hdtv and progressive scan dvd players can improve the viewing pleasure even more. dvds are here to stay for the long haul.
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...although dvhs and hdvd are superior to dvd, the gap isn't that large...
isn't that large ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? have you seen DVHS/HD in a proper set-up already ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? if yes, and you stick to your statement... you have poor eyesight ;D ;D ;D
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laser discs were large, cumbersome and more prone to scratching than dvds. they were also prone to laser rot which is totally different from dvd rot (which seems to be the problem of the manufacturer rather than dvd itself). the performance gap between laser disc and dvds is exactly like the one between lps and cds. although dvhs and hdvd are superior to dvd, the gap isn't that large. also, improvements like hdtv and progressive scan dvd players can improve the viewing pleasure even more. dvds are here to stay for the long haul.
With regular DVDs you can get HD like quality using an HTPC :D so for me.. tatagal talaga DVDs especially now, wala pang HD content for HDTVs... upconvert regular DVDs nalang ;D even on my 29" TV I can see a big difference. Almost like wearing glasses and removing them.
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I buy originals because I want to have the best quality in picture and music, when I purchase dvds I really like.
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DVD collecting is a hobby...buying orig justifies my appreciation to this passion ;D
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I only buy orig if the movie is really good, unreleased sa pdvd, high replay value, lots of extras, may booklet sana, nice packaging - so far most of my DVDs have nice packaging like LOTR extended, Brotherhood Of The Wolf 3 disc, Akira R2 - yung pirated nasa seperate cabinet.
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Less likely that the disc is defective (there are, of course, exceptions). I want my first viewing of a film that I didn't catch in the theaters to have the best picture and sound possible.
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I buy both orig and pirated...my reason for buying the orig of course sinabi na ninyo lahat.. ;D
Pero here's my thought doon sa HD-DVD...let take vinyl for example (yun mga LP's)...dba up to now meron pa din mga nangongolekta....i think kapag maganda yun format ng isang media like vinyls, CD's and DVD..IMO it will last.
Peace 8)
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Maipagmamalaki ba ninyo sa mga anak ninyo ang collection ninyo kung puro naman peyks?! 8)
sabi nga sa bubblegang 1 liner: galit ka nga sa magnanakaw e bili ka naman ng bili ng peyk! ;D
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I buy both orig and pirated...my reason for buying the orig of course sinabi na ninyo lahat.. ;D
Pero here's my thought doon sa HD-DVD...let take vinyl for example (yun mga LP's)...dba up to now meron pa din mga nangongolekta....i think kapag maganda yun format ng isang media like vinyls, CD's and DVD..IMO it will last.
Peace 8)
Main reason why LPs won't die is because there are many LP fans who believe they're better sounding than CDs. And many times, such claims of analog superiority can be demonstrated.
I just wouldn't bet that anyone would be a die-hard DVD fan who would think, say 10 years from now, that DVD is better than HD-DVD. Nor will such a claim be demonstrable.
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Main reason why LPs won't die is because there are many LP fans who believe they're better sounding than CDs. And many times, such claims of analog superiority can be demonstrated.
I just wouldn't bet that anyone would be a die-hard DVD fan who would think, say 10 years from now, that DVD is better than HD-DVD. Nor will such a claim be demonstrable.
LP is analog 8)
What is the progress in the digital technology all about? To be able to bring the quality of film in those discs to your own home.
Film is analog 8)
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o bakit LP na ang pinaguusapan nyo?
Para sa akin, kaya ako bumibili ng orig kasi gusto ko lang.
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Maipagmamalaki ba ninyo sa mga anak ninyo ang collection ninyo kung puro naman peyks?! 8)
sabi nga sa bubblegang 1 liner: galit ka nga sa magnanakaw e bili ka naman ng bili ng peyk! ;D
Hmm.. nagmamalinis?
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Hmm.. nagmamalinis?
;)
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If I think the title is worth my money. I buy the orig.
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Why do I buy orig? Because of the quality. Having said that, I think I will not be buying as many as I have been buying.
The reason: I've just come back from a day of viewing and comparing HTPC, upconverted DVDs, and D-VHS, and standard DVDs of course.
I am sorry to say that the D-VHS format decisively blew away the others. I was hoping that it wouldn't, but it did. The difference is large (technically up to 600%). I'm trying my best not to exaggerate and just state my observations as simply as I can. Let me just say that it was quite annoying, for all of us, to go back to the standard DVDs and HTPC. We pulled out the best demo discs with the best transfers...no dice. We just wanted to watch the HD format.
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isn't that large ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? have you seen DVHS/HD in a proper set-up already ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? if yes, and you stick to your statement... you have poor eyesight ;D ;D ;D
when you say a proper setup i.e. DLP, theater like setup, etc. the answer is no. when i say the gap isn't that large, it is meant to cover the normal setup of a home theater of a 27'-36' direct view tv. the quality gap between dvhs and dvds is more apparent on larger screens.
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i doubt DVHS will gain mainstream acceptance. for me, it is the equivalent of DAT. DAT was superior to CD's but never really took off even without the issues about copying. it was only a matter of time before single layer and dual layer dvds are superceded in terms of technical performance. however, should we play a waiting game and stop buying dvds? i won't, because dvds are a widely accepted standard even if it no longer state of the art or cutting edge. it will take a long time for a hardware prices and availability of titles in DVHS to rival that of dvds. HD-DVD is still in the planning stages. with the lack of a clear alternative, it all depends on how long one is willing to wait.
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i doubt DVHS will gain mainstream acceptance. for me, it is the equivalent of DAT. DAT was superior to CD's but never really took off even without the issues about copying. it was only a matter of time before single layer and dual layer dvds are superceded in terms of technical performance. however, should we play a waiting game and stop buying dvds? i won't, because dvds are a widely accepted standard even if it no longer state of the art or cutting edge. it will take a long time for a hardware prices and availability of titles in DVHS to rival that of dvds. HD-DVD is still in the planning stages. with the lack of a clear alternative, it all depends on how long one is willing to wait.
IIRC DAT is popular among the pro audio production ppl. DVDs would probably be popular a decade from now. We only have to look at VHS as a prime example. It's been with us for a quarter of a century and still it is popular. Only recently has DVDs outpaced VHS players.
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when you say a proper setup i.e. DLP, theater like setup, etc. the answer is no. when i say the gap isn't that large, it is meant to cover the normal setup of a home theater of a 27'-36' direct view tv. the quality gap between dvhs and dvds is more apparent on larger screens.
IMHO, normal or not, the diff is very evident 8)
Yes, DVHS is a niche market but I believe its making its point. Science, if I was living in US, malamang bumili na ako ;D [yun e kung me pambili ako :P]
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I buy orig because of the quality, packaging, and special features and pag sale din. But sometimes yung orig pa ang may gasgas, bugs, etc lalo na yung mga r1, ang mahal tapos palpak! Kaya yung mga titles na hindi pang-collection and not worth buying, pirated na lang.
Peace! :)
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I buy orig coz of the QUALITY and wala kaseng pirated dito eh ;D
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Most of the time, viewing an orig dvd gives me a higher level of satisfaction in video and audio quality....(as compared to p-dvds).... I usually get disappointed watching p-dvds cause of the noticeable pixels....(not present in orig dvd of the same title)
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Usually original DVD gives clearer and crispier picture!
positive_noise. ;)
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fake dvds have a strong stinky chemical smell... that is enough for me not to buy them ;D
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Ha3x! ;D i agree with you, mabaho! smells sunog na plastic...
positive_noise.
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great quality compared to pdvds
complete special features
nice packaging
you can sell and trade them in this forum :)
used to buy pdvds but after i bought my first orig,
i'm not goin back to buying pdvds.. :)
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The collectivity appeal is intact and its genuine.
Well definitely crisp and clear compare to PDVD
I love reading the inserts that comes with it
Others got these superb packages ( Tin can, Holograms,Holofix, boxes.. etc)
Bottomline, I basically love collecting it
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I buy because I have no choice. As it is, origs are already overpriced. (We find that out when they suddenly drop the price for one product and overprice a newer version). Worse, they come up with newer versions of the same movie (which becomes part of their old stock), and use the same marketing techniques to hype the item. Then they release the same product in a new format, and manufacturers of players no longer support the old format. Finally, they come up with attractive booklets and covers which cost only a few cents.
Parang niloloko lang tayo. :-[
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it's the right thing to do under regulatory acts, but financially, bahala na kayo! ;D
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And is it true nakakasira daw ng player ang pirated DVDs?
nope. the disc never touches the optic eye, ilaw lang.
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Original DVDs are definitely better in quality and packaging.
Hindi mo rin maipagmamalaki sa iba kung puro pirated ang collections mo.
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Ha3x! ;D i agree with you, mabaho! smells sunog na plastic...
positive_noise.
Ha3x! but we still buy those mabaho! smells sunog na plastic DVDs di ba ;)
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Ha3x! ;D i agree with you, mabaho! smells sunog na plastic...
positive_noise.
Inaamoy mo ba yung dvds mo pag nanonood ka?
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nope. the disc never touches the optic eye, ilaw lang.
While it is true that it does'nt generally damage the lens of the DVD, some p**d DVD's are improperly pressed..uneven ung weight..and this may damage the drive motor of the player... Sa orig, cguradong walang problema ;D
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While it is true that it does'nt generally damage the lens of the DVD, some p**d DVD's are improperly pressed..uneven ung weight..and this may damage the drive motor of the player... Sa orig, cguradong walang problema ;D
This is not necessarily true. Typically, p**d DVD's weigh less that original DVD's. Even uneven weight distribution on the disk area is negligible because of lesser weight on p**d DVDs.
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Original DVDs are definitely better in quality and packaging.
Hindi mo rin maipagmamalaki sa iba kung puro pirated ang collections mo.
Absolutely!!!!
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Inaamoy mo ba yung dvds mo pag nanonood ka?
bro i have a shady acquaintance who only buys fake dvds. noticed his room smells like the basement of makati cinema square or greenhills >:( you can smell fake dvds even from a distance. nasty smell indeed
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Generally, pareho lang ang laman ng orig at PDVD. Hindi lang pa kasi nagbebenta ng marami at murang DVD burners. As for the package, ilang sentimo lang ang plastic at papel.
'yan ang sinabi nila tungkol sa audio CD, tapos sila-sila rin ang gagawa at magbebenta ng CD burners. Ngayon, bagsak na ang presyo ng burners at blank CDs.
Susunod ang DVD. At the same time, lalabas sila ng bagong format. From there, bili na-naman ang collector ng bagong kopya!
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i have borrowed fake dvds from that unscrupulous acquaintance of mine. one thing common with all of them is the terrible sound quality they ALL emit. the so called DTSES/DDEX pirated dvds more often than not emit the same sound in all 7 speakers. sometimes you are lucky to get different sound from every speaker .... the glitch though is that evidently the wrong sound is being emitted. i have played dvds where the dialogue comes out from the rear ? ? ?
picture quality is also inconsistent. there are some that give true DVD picture but there are some that get grainy. if you are unlucky you will get a VCD or LD version being passed of as a DVD.
the aggravation of fakes just aint worth it. besides pirating or buying pirated things of any form of media is in plane and simple words STEALING from the true producers/manufactureres no matter what your justification may be
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Two-thirds of the price of a DVD goes to the storage, handling, and marketing costs of the wholesaler and the retailer. (Only a few cents goes to the disk, the CD label, the plastic box, any leaflet, and paper cover. The bulk goes to marketing and operating costs.) The low cost of copying disks, the routine price drops of copying technology such as burners and disks, and the increasing level of on-line commerce and marketing shows that companies can actually have their products manufactured locally and sell DVDs at 70 percent off. This might even provide more jobs to locals.
Years ago, a few Filipinos spent tens of thousands of pesos buying LDs. Now, these disks are sold at one-tenth their price. Soon, support for players might go the same way as record players. It's possible that people who buy DVDs will experience the same.
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well i hope that doesn't happen for our sake ;D
ho' well! to each his own. i personally am happy collecting R1 dvds and at peace making the real producers rich by buying real dvds. dont want the f*ckin taiwanese or unscrupulous mainland chinese or the bastard chinoys getting any of my hard earned money... they can all screw themselves as far as i am concerned. by buying the trash they produce, we condone their act of theft and deceit. i would rather give my money to warner and mgm anyday
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Ako naman puro p* pa dvd ko kase last week ko lang nabili player ko, he he! Di pako nabili ng orig kase la pa ko pera pero my reason kaya ako nagbabalak bumili ng orig kase gusto ko mag collect ng dvds. And yun nga napansin ko although maganda quality nung nabili ko na p* dvds e may kulang pa din dun sa features. I'll buy the orig as said pag nga talagang gusto ko yung movie. So yung mga P* dvd, puwede siyang testingan lang kung maganda yung film then buy the orig pag nagustuhan mo yung movie.
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I know that there's a big difference in video quality between p* and orig ( kitang kita sa mga dark scenes), but audio quality I'm not sure kung meron difference, how would you know?
Some say that it's noticable in dts, sa 5.1 din ba?, how about 6.1?. I can't tell the difference eh, siguro it's just my ears :P.
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Another thing is the main menu on some p* dvds is dvd copy but when you watch the actual movie it's on vcd copy pala :P, yikes >:(
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If you plan to have your own personal collection, any collectible item for that matter (eg. jewelry, trading cards, figures etc.) I dont think you'd want to keep fake ones. It's a matter of choice... I'd rather have a collection of 10 Original DVDs that I bought with my hard earned cash, than 50 pirated copies I bought for cheap.
Integrity my brotha!
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I know that there's a big difference in video quality between p* and orig ( kitang kita sa mga dark scenes), but audio quality I'm not sure kung meron difference, how would you know?
Some say that it's noticable in dts, sa 5.1 din ba?, how about 6.1?. I can't tell the difference eh, siguro it's just my ears :P.
There are some p*DVDs that "steal" the original audio track from the "original" copy. Thats if there is an existing "Original" DVD already out in the market. Yung mga bagong labas lang na movie na wala pang official pressing ng DVD, most likely yung mga pirate na ang nagmix ng 5.1 audio track which is not up to the standards of Dolby Digital or DTS they just followed the format but not the quality. And more often than not, P* DVDs use lower bit encoding for audio to be able to fit all the files (audio, video, features) into a DVD5. More often than not, Original DVDs use DVD9 to have the highest possible encoding for video, audio and features to fit into a single disc.
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First of all, many pirates are supported by the same media corporations and their governments. For example, Red China is the biggest pirate in the world, and yet receives "Most Favored Nation" status by the U.S. In return, the U.S. gets cheap labor. (It's not coincidental that the same DVD boxes and other parts are made in China and other countries.)
Second, the same media companies are now manufacturing or investing in manufacturers of CD copying technology. Soon, just like CD burners, the prices for DVD burners and disks will drop.
Third, just like LDs and CDs, the same media companies change formats often, forcing consumers to upgrade at the same or double the price. Just like cassettes, LPs, LDs, VHS tapes, and CDs, it's possible that in the future (probably even the near future!), DVDs will be replaced by another format.
Sure, we can hope that the format will stay. That's what they said about the LD.
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Nothing beats the original! it's much better to have a collection of original DVDs because of it's resale value, the quality and the packaging for showing off your collections. 8)
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Nothing beats the original! it's much better to have a collection of original DVDs because of it's resale value, the quality and the packaging for showing off your collections. 8)
Yeap...that's exactly what I wanted to say ;D
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'di ba mura lang ang packaging? Parang P20 lang yata para sa plastic at booklet.
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ang pangit i-display ng mga japeks. nakakahiya. plus, originals have a higher re-sale value. especially pag magkakaroon ng sequel. or anniversary release.
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1. Video quality - Since original DVDs are usually pressed in DVD-9 vs Pirated in DVD-5s there is less video compression.
2. Audio quality - Some pirated DVDs say they have DD or DTS but are not the same... I have compared pirated and original discs and listening to soundtracks, one particular pirated copy had voices coming out the rear speaker as compared to the original, having the voices only coming out of the front center channel. Not all audio is the same.
3. Special Features - Since pirated discs have limited space inside a DVD-5, special features are usually ommitted, sometimes even audio features disabled like choosing different formats like DD and DTS. (Even if the original disc was published having both DD and DTS)
4. Integrity - It just feels better to own a select number of hard earned Original DVD titles, than hundreds of Pirated copies that you got for a measly 80 bucks. If you were a collector, would'nt you want to have a collection something with value?
This is just my point of view though, as I value my DVD collection. :)
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better picture quality and superior audio, esp reg 1,
i buy the reg3 if sale and soso kind of movie. 98% i buy reg1--simply the best ;)
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i buy original dvds if the special features are very good, just like X2 and Indy.
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i don't think conjecting what happened with Laserdiscs will happen to dvds. a more valid comparison is what happened with LP when cds arrived. Remember that MOST (not the early adopters) consumers will only upgrade when they see the value in doing so. Laserdiscs were bulky, hard to maintain and expensive. dvds are compact and are selling for the same prices that Laserdiscs used to sell for. Remember than our peso has devaluated by nearly 50% during the time that Laserdiscs were being sold at P1k meaning that dvds are being priced less than laserdiscs.
About copying dvds, there are no dual layer dvd-rs yet available in the market nor are there plans to do so. One of the most tricky aspects of dvd authoring is making sure the layer change occurs at a scene in the movie that is not as noticeable as possible.
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I buy the orig if I really like the movie and only on R1, the rest are p* ;D
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I want to have peace of mind, assured quality wise on what I buy and pay for. Iba na rin ang dating if I own and collect ORIGINALS. ;) Furthermore most of the DVDs I'm interested in are NOT AVAILABLE IN PIRATED VERSIONS so I've got no choice but to go with ORIGINALS all the way. ;D ;D ;D
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I often wonder why some people say some p-dvds are "as good as" the originals. I've never tried a p-disc that can match the video or audio of the origs.
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I just gave away some titles from my collection as gifts. And since they are original, di nakakahiya. Problema na lang nila na bumili ng player kahit generic.
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I just gave away some titles from my collection as gifts. And since they are original, di nakakahiya. Problema na lang nila na bumili ng player kahit generic.
Dapat yata eh isinama mo na rin yoong dvd player boss viper! ;D
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1. Video quality - Since original DVDs are usually pressed in DVD-9 vs Pirated in DVD-5s there is less video compression.
2. Audio quality - Some pirated DVDs say they have DD or DTS but are not the same... I have compared pirated and original discs and listening to soundtracks, one particular pirated copy had voices coming out the rear speaker as compared to the original, having the voices only coming out of the front center channel. Not all audio is the same.
3. Special Features - Since pirated discs have limited space inside a DVD-5, special features are usually ommitted, sometimes even audio features disabled like choosing different formats like DD and DTS. (Even if the original disc was published having both DD and DTS)
4. Integrity - It just feels better to own a select number of hard earned Original DVD titles, than hundreds of Pirated copies that you got for a measly 80 bucks. If you were a collector, would'nt you want to have a collection something with value?
This is just my point of view though, as I value my DVD collection. :)
I agree, especially with # 4. ;)
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There are certain titles that I am willing to get and spend for in original R1 as sort of a long-term investment. Othterwise, I go for the pdvd's...
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Pirated DVDs are crap (sorry for the language). Kung di ko talaga gusto yung movie, ok lang na pirated kung isang beses ko lang papanoorin. Parang disposable na lang siya hehe...
My 2 cents. ;D
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TO stand out from the rest of my friends! ;D
status quo din kasi and orig dvds ::)
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walang challenge pag pirated.
no "thrill of the chase". 8)
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walang challenge pag pirated.
no "thrill of the chase". 8)
Yup, no thrill being chased by creditors. ;D
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orig smells good, haha esp r1
better picture
better sound
better menu
complete special features
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I buy orig dvd's for collection and para hindi nakakahiya sa mga bisita.pag nakita na pirated land dvd mo.baka sabihin "AY CHEAP.PIRATED!!" ;D
seriously I buy orig kasi its better picture and sound quality.lalo na ung mga 6.1 dts-es encoded disc.
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With all that SALE going on at astro, I often get a title or two to replace some favourite p-discs. Seems i'm falling into a pattern. Get the p-disc of recent movies, then buy the orig when on sale. ;D
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Just some observations guys, why is it that Region 1 dvds smell good or better than Region 3 dvds?
Also, the quality of the packaging is much better.
I noticed it on snap case Warner release. Normally Region 3 snap cases are rough while Region 1 are smooth.
And of course pdvds are disposable if you have the orig one already. 8)
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;D I just have this thing for originals, be it dvds or cds. Not really to obtain some status symbol but I guess it's all for integrity and player preservation. My HT system is orig so they deserve to play origs too.
I always tell my friends that I have nothing against people who patronize bootleg dvds or cds. It's not within my right to dictate on how they should spend their money. :D
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orig can be traded or sold ;D ;D
plus its worth your hard earned money too ;D
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origs last longer! simple as that! ;D
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Para may maiyabang ako sa mga barkada kong mahihilig bumili ng piniratang dvd/vcd/cd ;D ;D ;D
Maybe someday i may influence them to buy originals ;)
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Iba ang dating kapag puro orig lalo na R1, iba ang feeling ;D. Kakahiya kapag napakarami mo ngang DVD puro pirated naman ;D Nagiging proud ka dahil malaki ang investment mo sa mga orig na dvd at maipagyayabang mo. 8)
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Simple lang. Quality.
Lalo na pag gusto ko yung movie. Binibili ko para makita ko yung linaw ng kopya at ganda ng tunog. Technically because of the video bit rate.
Hindi ako bumubili ng Orig para lang ipagmayabang. Kaibigan ko pa rin sila kahit Orig or pirate ang collection ko.
Sarili ko ang pinapasaya ko hindi ang ibang tao...
Just me.
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I salute you blitzkrieg and philander!
To each his own!
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Hindi ako bumubili ng Orig para lang ipagmayabang. Kaibigan ko pa rin sila kahit Orig or pirate ang collection ko.
Sorry guys na mis quote nyo yata ako. Baguhin natin ang word "MAIPAGMALAKI" ;D ;D ;D Ang babaw naman yata kung dahil sa pirated ang binibili nya eh ayaw mo na silang kaibigan.
I have nothing against people patronizing pirated stuff, although i don't encourage them, nagsimula rin naman ako sa pdvd kasi mahal talaga orig. Pero dahil na rin sa mga people here in pinoydvd eh naengganyo na akong bumili ng originals and maybe i can do the same with my freinds.
Peace 8)
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up until now, i still don't know why ??? ::)
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I don't have money to buy origs, so here's what I did, bought a dvd burner, rent/borrowed orig dvds from my friends ;), bought branded blank dvds, dvdxcopy it...voila! quality remains ;) still not presentable as a display ;D
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Recent big ticket purchases are making me rethnk my philosophy of getting original DVDs, considering how pdiscs have improved lately. In the future, i probably will buy origs only when they're on SALE or in 2-disc versions.
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Unfortunately I still havent seen a good P* disc. The video quality is still low compared to original discs. What I hate about p* discs is that it's re-encoded to 30fps (video speed) with lowered bitrate... a good original DVD should run at 24fps and your player doing the 3:2 pulldown, and has higher bitrate.. I hate seeing video articacts like pixelation and blocky patches especially on dark scenes.
Original parin! for movies I want in my collection. I let my dad buy the p* discs hehehe and I just watch if I havent seen the movie yet.
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dati po rin akong tumatangkilik sa mga p***dvd(hanggang ngayon pa rin) pero mula po maging miyembro ako sa pinoydvd(naks) ;D..lumawak ang aking kaalaman sa mga dvd :)..ngunit aking paring pinipili kung anong penikula ang pangmatagalan at pwedeng paulit ulit panonoorin :)lalo na po kung ito may mga maibibigay na karagdagang impormasyon sa paggawa at pagdisenyo ng tunog ;D..... dahil na rin po na may kamahalan ang tunay ng dvd(iba talaga ang orig!)...ung p***dvd ay ginagawa ko ngayong batayan kung bibili ako ng orig....mabuhay po ang pinoydvd!!! ;D...yun lang po
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It's the principle behind it....
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I buy the originals to support the studios so they keep making the movies I like. That, and the picture quality is better on the originals.
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Here's something interesting:
http://chronicle.com/free/v50/i30/30a03801.htm
It turns out that the Philippines is tops in textbook piracy.
It's possible that many Filipinos became educated because of pirated textbooks and other materials. Then, when they became financially successful because of that education, they began to buy original DVDs.
We can add that to our principles:
Pirated textbooks: OK
Pirated DVDs: no way
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We can add that to our principles:
Pirated textbooks: OK
Pirated DVDs: no way
on textbooks - wala naman tayong choice kasi di ba? kung ganito lang yung available nung panahon na gumagamit tayo ng textbooks eh wala naman tayong magagawa. we purchased based on what was required.
on dvds - in this case, the consumer has a choice.
peace.
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...regarding pirated:
textbooks- education should be free for all.
dvds- it became free for all
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What makes me buy orig is the Special Feature section. Almost all pirated DVD come in only 1 disc, but the original DVD's (specially blockbuster ones comes in 2 or more disc.
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To Mike: But your argument goes against the views of this thread. Piracy is piracy, remember?
To Nirv: Sorry, I can't understand your point.
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Here's something interesting:
http://chronicle.com/free/v50/i30/30a03801.htm
It turns out that the Philippines is tops in textbook piracy.
It's possible that many Filipinos became educated because of pirated textbooks and other materials. Then, when they became financially successful because of that education, they began to buy original DVDs.
We can add that to our principles:
Pirated textbooks: OK
Pirated DVDs: no way
Textbook (and all kinds of books, for that matter) piracy are not that rampant, though the Phils (they say) is number in it. But we should consider the fact that foreign publishers, in order to minimize book piracy, permit their publications to be REPRINTED in Asian countries like the Phils., Singapore, India, etc., for them to be able to still get some of the royalties from these publications. They do not simply let their publications be distributed locally by local publishers, but they let them be republished here using cheaper materials and at the same time the cost of shipping actual books are removed.
I say that this should be the case to foreign, especially Hollywood DVDs. Though there are the R3 editions of such, it will certainly bring the price of DVDs to extremely low level if we will be able to re-published them here in the Phils. using cheaper but not necessarily low-class materials. In this case, everybody will be happy! And no one's will be at a losing end!
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I say that this should be the case to foreign, especially Hollywood DVDs. Though there are the R3 editions of such, it will certainly bring the price of DVDs to extremely low level if we will be able to re-published them here in the Phils. using cheaper but not necessarily low-class materials. In this case, everybody will be happy! And no one's will be at a losing end!
Using low class blank DVDs? I doubt if the price will go down. More likely the profits will go up for the local distributors. Look at the locally made CDs. The new releases are priced above P400 same as the imported ones. Did local CDs bring down their price?
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I hope you can provide evidence, like statistical information and a source, so that we know that piracy is not as bad as the Chronicle article states. Otherwise, we will have to accept such evidence.
I agree with reprinting. Unfortunately, more publishers are reluctant in allowing reprints because they believe that Filipinos can afford to buy originals and reprints have been offered for too long a time.
Also, the analogy is not that exact. Several local buyers insist on getting R3s that have the same features as R1s and at lower prices, but that is not the case all of the time. I've noticed that in several cases, there are not enough titles available locally, the features are lacking for R3s, or worse, the image is substandard in quality.
The situation is worse for reprints. Reprints use cheap newsprint, black and white images, poor binding (mostly glue and cheap tack board), and often involve old editions. They also don't include instructor's manuals, multimedia materials, CD-ROMs, and other products needed together with the textbook.
Also, I think publishers are increasingly reluctant in allowing reprints. That's why they will offer only older editions, and allow reprints only for selected titles. (Notice that movie producers do the same thing for R3s.)
Finally, from what I know, R1s are mostly sold in the Philippines illegally, and only because there is no R3 counterpart. That is why most have no VRB stickers (which make them smuggled if sold for a profit), and most sellers will not replace the product sold if it is defective. Also, I'm not sure if sellers with stores register their business or pay taxes.
The only two ways of getting R1s, then, is to buy them from local stores that have VRB stickers or to order them from abroad (which will cost a lot of money, given freight and probably duties).
Textbook (and all kinds of books, for that matter) piracy are not that rampant, though the Phils (they say) is number in it. But we should consider the fact that foreign publishers, in order to minimize book piracy, permit their publications to be REPRINTED in Asian countries like the Phils., Singapore, India, etc., for them to be able to still get some of the royalties from these publications. They do not simply let their publications be distributed locally by local publishers, but they let them be republished here using cheaper materials and at the same time the cost of shipping actual books are removed.
I say that this should be the case to foreign, especially Hollywood DVDs. Though there are the R3 editions of such, it will certainly bring the price of DVDs to extremely low level if we will be able to re-published them here in the Phils. using cheaper but not necessarily low-class materials. In this case, everybody will be happy! And no one's will be at a losing end!
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I'd like to add that according to one source when the CD was introduced, it was sold at a price higher than that of an LP with the same content. LP owners complained, and publishers promised that the price would eventually go down. After two decades, it never did.
I notice that the cheap R3s are mostly titles in the company catalog that aren't moving. New movies that didn't do well are sold at lower prices to keep the money flowing, while prices for hits are set are kept high. Then, a new version of the same movie is released years later at an even higher price. It's possible that with a new format the feeding frenzy will begin anew.
In almost all cases, something like 50 percent of the price goes to marketing and overhead.
Using low class blank DVDs? I doubt if the price will go down. More likely the profits will go up for the local distributors. Look at the locally made CDs. The new releases are priced above P400 same as the imported ones. Did local CDs bring down their price?
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Because original DVDs are spelled D-V-D. Pirated is di-bi-di...
"ser, eks, gusto mo?"
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once may extra money na ako - i'll buy original DVDs. generic DVD player lang nga ang sa akin ;D
with the current pricing of orig DVDs, it seems that only the rich people have the right to enjoy high-quality home theater entertainment. or is this the reality nowadays -- even in entertainment, only the rich people deserve the best.
daily income of an average filipino family - P275.00
hmmm, i guess the temptation to buy pirated DVDs/audio CDs is too great... how to solve this piracy problem -- make DVDs widely available for rental... just like what happened when VCDs' rental fees were brought down to P15.00 back in 2002... pirated VCD purchases were minimal... Viva Video City, unahan n'yo na!!!
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An officemate of mine bought only di-bi-di. But I told him that he was missing a lot. Cool packaging, great sound and video quality, ( The works).
He bought orig and was floored by the clarity of audio and video.
Buy original. See what you're missing. Of course, you'll be missing plenty pesos in your wallet but that's the way it goes. ;D
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with the current pricing of orig DVDs, it seems that only the rich people have the right to enjoy high-quality home theater entertainment. or is this the reality nowadays -- even in entertainment, only the rich people deserve the best.
i'd agree that the hobby is a bit pricy pero to say that only the rich deserves the best as far as home entertainment is concerned, well... :-X
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"I'd like to add that according to one source when the CD was introduced, it was sold at a price higher than that of an LP with the same content. LP owners complained, and publishers promised that the price would eventually go down. After two decades, it never did."
yung prices ng CDs against LPs?
You realize that LPs sell for ~ 40 dollars nowadays, while the same cd will sell for 10 dollars?
ofcourse LPs are the better choice.
prices go this way:
LP/ Vinyls >>>> High Res Audio (sacd/ dvd- audio) >>> CD.
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dito na lang ako sa singapore bumili ng orig dvd not because there are no p**dvd here but financialy kaya ko na gastosan hilig ko. Back in the Phil ~900php malaki na to compara sa sahod ko.
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audio and video issues
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... because I can't find a P****ed version !!!
seriously , I buy original DVDs of movies I have seen before and liked immensely ; of movies that come highly recommended by friends/websites/magazine articles .
these tend to be old movies ;
as for the recent movies ; there are places to go where you can get really good " facsimiles of the original " ... O0 ... you just have to know where to look .
as has been mentioned several times already ... it's a matter of choice .
if P*****ed DVDs / software / Audio CDs were as widely available in the U.S. / Europe / Japan as in Asia , do you think they will be as popular as well ?
judging from the different nationalities that make up the queue at the underground shops in Singapore , Hongkong , K.L. and Beijing , I think so.
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... because I can't find a P****ed version !!!
seriously , I buy original DVDs of movies I have seen before and liked immensely ; of movies that come highly recommended by friends/websites/magazine articles .
these tend to be old movies ;
as for the recent movies ; there are places to go where you can get really good " facsimiles of the original " ... O0 ... you just have to know where to look .
as has been mentioned several times already ... it's a matter of choice .
if P*****ed DVDs / software / Audio CDs were as widely available in the U.S. / Europe / Japan as in Asia , do you think they will be as popular as well ?
judging from the different nationalities that make up the queue at the underground shops in Singapore , Hongkong , K.L. and Beijing , I think so.
i may be wrong, but are you endorsing that we support piracy for convenient reasons? medyo confusing yung statements mo brother... please enlighten us..
but i agree. to each his own.. :)
:)
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was about to reply to the previous post ... and then I scrolled down and read this ...
so there . :-X
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well dude.. my point exactly....
8)
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Because my family deserves the best. ;)
I agree that DVDs are an expensive hobby. But I want my children to enjoy all the features of original DVDs -- superior sound/video quality, add-ons like games, additional footage, etc. So, although it will take a while for me to build up a DVD collection, I'm going orig all the way.
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I buy orig. because it is the right thing to do and at the same time you get good quality audio and video...secondly what is the use of buying/acquiring good quality equipment kung P****ed ding lang gamit mo (IMHO).
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Kumpleto yung features!
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I started out in 2002 with "region 0's" but a few months later, bought an original just to see the diff. And boy, is there a lot of diff! P-dvds kasi, after watching it you just put in a flimsy rack whereas the originals I watch over and over, and sometimes just look at them to read the liner notes, inserts, play the special features, etc. Plus I put them on my shelves na parang shrine to the format where I can appreciate them for their sheer beauty.. ;D
Plus, I've never considered myself to be a rich person so knocking titles off my wish list brings great pleasure, a sort of accomplishment, 'ika nga ni sir wrath, the "thrill of the chase" ;D
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Why do I buy original DVDs... well let just say I like collecting those Gift Sets...
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simple lang, yung quality ng sound at nung video.
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additional features ;D
and of course, there are films like the LOTR who incorporates into the film the deleted scenes so its a definite plus - even if i do end up watching almost 3 hours of movie.
then there are the easter eggs, hehehehehe 8)
kaya nga lang..........really expensive hobby :P
oh well, its definitely worth it ;)
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I just switched back to buying origs again after a long period of doing the opposite because of two things.
1. A new TV. Just got a 54" HDTV, and you can really see any and all compression artifacts blown up on the screen.
2. The price. Now that some titles are being sold for only P300-400 pesos, they're more affordable. It just goes to show that orig DVD pricing is somewhat arbitrary which is kinda annoying and should be stopped.
In terms of variety of selection though, local orig DVD distributors really pale in comparison to their rivals.
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I just switched back to buying origs again after a long period of doing the opposite because of two things.
1. A new TV. Just got a 54" HDTV, and you can really see any and all compression artifacts blown up on the screen.
2. The price. Now that some titles are being sold for only P300-400 pesos, they're more affordable. It just goes to show that orig DVD pricing is somewhat arbitrary which is kinda annoying and should be stopped.
In terms of variety of selection though, local orig DVD distributors really pale in comparison to their rivals.
Yup, for me, about the only compelling reason to buy origs is if you have a large screen like you do now where the low bitrates of pirated stuff become annoyingly obvious compared to origs. (Though many average about 5-6mbps, just 1-2mbps shy of origs, and not always noticable on plasma.) Those 2nd disc special features are entertaining and informative, no doubt - a good enough reason to buy origs if you only have a small screen like I do. But whether they are worth 700%+ more than those bare DVDs from abus, I leave that to the buyer.
The prices of some titles have come down to P299 for sale items. Excellent development. My hats off to local distributors for this. Though I wouldn't be surprised if the distributors are still making profits out of moving their unsold inventories. It does reveal not just the arbitrary nature of their pricing, but something closer to corporate greed. ;D Corporate greed is unstoppable. You might as well ask OPEC to increase oil production to lower oil prices. If you notice, after the SALE period, the same DVD title would revert to its P999 or P895 retail price.
And the titles. Well, I hate to say it, the ABUS have more selections that change almost every month. Forget about new and recent releases. They have old titles the distributors do not find profitable to release in this country. I think Firewired in another thread made an excellent post about Hollywood studios shelving the release of some titles because local market conditions don't meet their minimum order quantities or something like that. Enter the Abus, to sell here what no studio would dare to. ;D
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Hi everyone, Im new here...
Nice site.
I have recently bought a generic player and started collecting dvd's.
I have read everyones post bout the benefits of buying the original and it seems there s a lot of pros with the price only as the con.
Problem is orig classics (my preferable collection) is hard to find or not available her in the PI, which is the opposite for the pDVD's. I think this is one of the reason that Filipinos still tend to go to Quiapo or Ghills.
just my ten cents.... PEACE
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basta ako i try to buy original ones as possible. pero kung di ako mkatiis, i'll buy p-discs. pero it's not the same, i'll still buy the original version. lalo na sa part ko, mahirap mag-ipon ksi student lang ako. nagagalit na nga parents kasi watse of time daw... pero i disagree...
plus, pag original you can really see and hear the diffrence (pero i guess alm nyo na yun).
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better video and sound quality :)
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When you buy orig, you won't be surprised by a lightning raid by the authorities.
Was having lunch at the Makati Cinema Square yesterday.
Suddenly, DIBIDI BUSTERS !
Policemen and riot squad-looking troopers started coming in and the dibidi piratas started panicking and hiding their stuff. Men in white shirts with OMD at the back (Ano ito ? Orchestral Maneuvers in the Dark siguro) were putting confiscated DVDs in large sacks. There were plenty of policemen on every floor of the square. Different uniforms. Some had menacing looking armalite rifles.
I felt sorry for the pirates. But I later learned that most of what they confiscated were plenty of dibidi covers/cases. The pirates are crafty and the authorities are putting on a show I guess...
In fact, 45 minutes after the police left, the piratas started selling already. DIBIDI ! DIBIDI !
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OMD ba or OMB?
Di ba Optical Media Board yung bagong VRB? ::)
Back to topic...
Why do I buy orig? Replay value ng movie kung di ko type yung movie pdvd na lang. But sometimes I discovered na maganda pala yung movie then thats the time na bibili ako ng original. ;D
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OMD ba or OMB?
Di ba Optical Media Board yung bagong VRB? ::)
Back to topic...
Why do I buy orig? Replay value ng movie kung di ko type yung movie pdvd na lang. But sometimes I discovered na maganda pala yung movie then thats the time na bibili ako ng original. ;D
OMB ba ? Maybe. They were fast. ;D
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Used to collect P***d DVD's when I wasnt married yet. Me & my girlfriend would watch these DVDs on my 15 inch LCD monitor on my PC with simple surround setup. And life was so simple back then.... :)
Then we got married this year. She gave me a 50 inch RPTV for our wedding gift. I started to get irritated by the pixels I see from P**d DVDs. Then a few months ago, she allowed me to set up a home theater system.
Then my simple life.... changed.
I saw the HUGE difference between P***d & orig. The sights and sounds are spectacular!
PinoyDVD forums has helped me immensely in understanding the difference between the 2 as well.
Now I am for Orig, been addicted to collecting it since. More power to PinoyDVD!
Good thing is, wife is supportive...Hehe ;D
Pero ako na ang tagalaba ng damit ;D (Jokes)
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"Thrill of the Chase" & "DVD collecting is for the rich"...I read somewhere in this forum.
I am not rich at all and I work hard for everything I buy and I am proud of it. I also realized (and remembered) that I get motivated to work harder when I have an expensive hobby. And yes DVD collection is definitely a costly one.
I used to collect cards for Magic the gathering before the Asian currency crisis and it was an expensive hobby. I would buy Out of Print cards from the U.S. that cost 5-10k each. My collection reached a total value of over 200k (before the peso plunged to 50 plus). I was able to sell it for a profit before nalaos.
I guess its time to pump up the jam again ;D. Good thing there's this new hobby to motivate me to work harder. Anyway, its actually cheaper than that old hobby (this is called justifying..not motivating ;)).
So its all a matter of perspective: either be discouraged by it or use it for motivation.
You dont say "I cant afford it" but you say, "How can I afford it"
-Robert Kiyosaki "Rich Dad, Poor Dad" New York Times Bestselling book
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okay then... you are giving me wonderful ideas ::)
this is a nice thread for people like me who are trying to understand this "cost-prohibitive" hobby of my husband...
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because I do not like watching dvds which simulate the experience of watching in a theater - laughter in the background, people walking across your line of site, etc... ;D
I also had the bad experience of watching a very clear copy of Good Fellas... pagdating sa part where Joe Pesci was going to be "made," tumigil yung disc... kahit anong button i-press ko ayaw magforward even sa chapter selections, the scenes that came after would not play... >:(
also, I watched the VCD of Linkin' Park Meteora which showed how the band worked really, really hard to create their Meteora album... writing, re-writing, recording, re-recording 100x, editing, etc... I always thought of artists and actors as a privileged bunch doing something very easy for millions of dollars... mahirap din pala ginagawa nila... ever since hindi na ako bumuli ng fake cd and dvd... ;D
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Kind of a hard question for me. Although all the dvds I buy are orig, I dont think the difference between a pdvd and and orig dvd is huge enough to warrant the price difference between the two IMHO. In terms of audio and vidoe quality, It's almost the same especially if the source of the pdvd is the orig itself. I watched a couple of pdvds ( though I don't own it ) but I really don't see that much of a difference. And in terms of packaging, hindi na rin nagkakalayo ang dalawa. R3 cases are the same as the pdvd version. But for some reason, I still buy orig. Bakit kaya? Hindi rin naman ako "nagmamalinis" because I do own stacks of pdvd PS2 games. The best explanation would be the prestige that I get from owning all orig dvds. Coupled with my HT system at home, I's so nice to see na lahat ng dvds ko ay orig. There was even this one time when a dvd technician came over to our house to fix my player and then he saw my collection. Sabi niya " sir, ang gaganda ng kuleksyon niyo ah. ang mamahal nito ah puro orig. Ang yaman nyo sir!!! ;D
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simply because I can afford one. ;D ;D ;D
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simply because I can afford one. ;D ;D ;D
Exactly. ;D ;D ;D
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"Thrill of the Chase" & "DVD collecting is for the rich"...I read somewhere in this forum.
I am not rich at all and I work hard for everything I buy and I am proud of it. I also realized (and remembered) that I get motivated to work harder when I have an expensive hobby. And yes DVD collection is definitely a costly one.
I guess its time to pump up the jam again ;D. Good thing there's this new hobby to motivate me to work harder. Anyway, its actually cheaper than that old hobby (this is called justifying..not motivating ;)).
So its all a matter of perspective: either be discouraged by it or use it for motivation.
I agree. I'm not rich either but because of orig DVDs, I learn how to save money for something that I really want. I don't even have a HT setup yet but just the same I can't say enough about how much I like orig DVDs. I buy orig because of the packaging(though recently this only applies to R1), bonus features and optimum video and audio quality. I only have 36 orig DVDs, more than half of it I acquired through GCs , the Astro sale and good gestures from PinoyDVD marketplace sellers. It may not be a huge library yet but I'm proud of it and it serves as motivation to save my money on a hobby less dangerous than my previous alcoholism.
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simply because I can afford one. ;D ;D ;D
Kewl! But I think for most of us, "afford" is a relative term . Take these examples:
1.) My uncle, big house in West Ghills, expensive HT setup with Lazyboys, no Rolex.
My friend, lives in a condo, no HT, 6 rolex(s), 10 more 100k+ watches
2.)Another friend, businessman, uses a cheap b/w display cellphone.
his employee, min. wage, camera phone, top of the line
3.) My Whirlpool stainless steel ref, 34k, will last for 10 yrs or more
My sister's Sony Ericson S700, 32k, will last for 2 yrs at most before next upgrade
4.) Another friend asking me to go w/ them to tour Canada & US with my wife & blow 400k for the whole trip
My response is no & I saved the money for HT & DVDs ;D & expenses for our new baby
Unless you just have too much money to burn :), I believe "afford" is a matter of priorities. Passion is a good term for this. If its your passion, you will be willing to spend for it. At first, I couldnt understand my friend with all his expensive watches, nor this min. wage employee with a top of the line cellphone. But neither did people understand me when I spent US400 (Php 25.00 exchange rate) for one rare Magic the Gathering card many years ago. So it all boils down to passion.
People laugh a lot when I give them comparison # 3. They say, Oo nga ano. Yun nga lang, di naman portable ang ref mo and di mo mapagyayabang ;D
So if DVD collecting is our passion (politically correct or milder term for addiction)...we can afford it, if we prioritize it :).
Peace ;)
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3.) My Whirlpool stainless steel ref, 34k, will last for 10 yrs or more
My sister's Sony Ericson S700, 32k, will last for 2 yrs at most before next upgrade
Oh, well, as my sister would respond:
"Anong Paki mo? Eh gusto ko eh...." ;D ;D ;D
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Its much more cheaper and has more sense of morality than collecting girls ;D ;D ;D
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You're simply right "afford" is a relative term
and i meant it like a joke only. ;)
Truth is, i can no longer afford one. ;D ;D ;D
Kewl! But I think for most of us, "afford" is a relative term .
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the freebies like reprints of comic books, leaflets, booklets etc. more importantly, the warranty...
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I watch my dvds with the subtitles on so I want the subtitles to be very accurate... we all know how the subtitles are with non-orig dvds... minsan nakakainis, minsan nakakatawa... ;D
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I watch my dvds with the subtitles on so I want the subtitles to be very accurate... we all know how the subtitles are with non-orig dvds... minsan nakakainis, minsan nakakatawa... ;D
i agree, sometimes when insomnia strikes, i watch without raising the volume and subtitles are important. sometimes its just the BOX especially if it comes in really cool packaging! :D
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Ako naman, kaya bumibili ako ng pirated ay dahil ay nasusubaybayan ko ko yung development ng world cinema ng mas mabilis...
Dahil sa pirated, napanood ko yung Good Bye Lenin!, Dogville, Elephant, Talk To Her, Maria Full of Grace, Central Station, Cinema Paradiso, All About My Mother, Man Without A Past, 3-Iron, Oldboy, Barbarian Invasions at marami pang iba. Grabe naman kasi ang local distributors dito sa Pinas e, puro mainstream lang ang release, kung meron mang foreign/indie/art films, ay naku after 2 years pa lalabas at hindi pa lahat...
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With the falling prices of DVD's these days, here is my opinion:
Watching a movie: P120-P130/ person
Eating out: P150-P300/ person
Fuel used: depends
Other factors: traffic, time, parking fees, etc.
Compared to:
Cost of a DVD:P299-P800.
Comfort of your own home/ home theater (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=42114.msg494386#msg494386)
Unlimited snacks & pause DVD when you want to have a bathroom break. Clean bathroom too, in case, you wanna..ya know... ;D
AND, you get to keep the DVD for future watching with guests, children, etc...
or you can even sell it. Thereby minimizing your cost for enjoying a movie.
;D PRICELESS ;D
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because I do not like watching dvds which simulate the experience of watching in a theater - laughter in the background, people walking across your line of site, etc... ;D
sa vcd lang to diba? ;D sa DVD din pala.
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1. Sayang naman ang investment sa HT kung P-DVD lang ang gagamitin. I think you can't get the most out of your investment kung di ka enjoy sa picture & sound quality.
2. Watching movies is very relaxing for me. I would not want the hassle of a P-DVD stopping in the middle of the movie (kainis yun and then di na siya magiging relaxing) ;D
3. At least kapag nakahanap ako ng bagong hobby may value yung mga collection ko (But I doubt na ibebenta ko ito). I used to collect Tamiya's and kahit diko na siya ginagamit and takes a lot of space I still want to keep them, I guess this will also be true with my DVD's ;D
4. And for some reason I can't explain. I can't stop buying orig DVD's lalo na kapag may sale even if I have lots of DVD's na diko pa nabubuksan ;)
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For collecting...
I found out that since pDVDs are cheap facsimiles of the real thing, some copies tend to "fade" over time. I tried playing one recently and found that my dvd player couldn't read it anymore. So...
I now buy originals only. ;D
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1. Sayang naman ang investment sa HT kung P-DVD lang ang gagamitin. I think you can't get the most out of your investment kung di ka enjoy sa picture & sound quality.
2. Watching movies is very relaxing for me. I would not want the hassle of a P-DVD stopping in the middle of the movie (kainis yun and then di na siya magiging relaxing) ;D
3. At least kapag nakahanap ako ng bagong hobby may value yung mga collection ko (But I doubt na ibebenta ko ito). I used to collect Tamiya's and kahit diko na siya ginagamit and takes a lot of space I still want to keep them, I guess this will also be true with my DVD's ;D
4. And for some reason I can't explain. I can't stop buying orig DVD's lalo na kapag may sale even if I have lots of DVD's na diko pa nabubuksan ;)
Agree! 100%.
#2 was funny :D, but it happened to me a couple of times from borrowed p-dvds
Also, a shelf of original DVDs looks cool :)
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The SALE fever from Warner and VIVA of late has renewed my DVD buying spree. I must have incremented my orig collection by around 40 titles since May this year. I think that's more than the orig titles I got for the last 2 years.
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Also, a shelf of original DVDs looks cool :)
i wish i could buy one for my dvd's, the last time i tried buying one sa Sogo my wife reacted, bakit daw kapag cabinet para sa bag niya ayaw ko bumili pero sa dvd cabinet puwede ;) Ooooops. Ended up buying na lang additional DVD's and place it sa side table ng bed namin ;D
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nice one vtec! anyway, i think one of the advantage of buying orig DVDs is that sometimes they have alternate endings which you can never see in a pDVD. ;)
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nice one vtec! anyway, i think one of the advantage of buying orig DVDs is that sometimes they have alternate endings which you can never see in a pDVD. ;)
:) ;D ;)
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yeah i like those alternate endings, and also with the bonus features and easter eggs on some
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That was so funny sir vtec3 :D :D :D
Anyway, some pdvd have alternate endings, I saw some pdvd with alternate endings. A friend lent me one with deNiro, Geez, I forgot the title, but I didnt like the movie. It was a recent release and there was a child in the movie and they had a fight in a church. It had 4 alternate endings
Also, I noted this in some of the other threads that some pdvds had were noisier (great for HT) than their original counterparts. One example was Day After Tomorrow. I am not sure of AVP yet cuz I havent opened my original, but the pdvd was really loud and was testing the limits of the subs.