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Title: Konzert AVR
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 17, 2003 at 11:07 AM
Is there anyone using konzert?

how's the performance?
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: johndoe on Aug 17, 2003 at 11:51 AM
dd ba to?
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: positive_noise on Aug 20, 2003 at 08:18 AM
meron bang AVR ang Konzert? Specs naman mga Bro! ;D  I've heard the quality of 2ch amp and i could say they have a very very good quality! Compare to other low cost amplifier...

This i got to hear...! :o


positive_noise.  ;D
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 20, 2003 at 08:26 AM
Meron, I saw a store on greenhills, just don't know the store, the store is also selling whaferdale speakers
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: positive_noise on Aug 21, 2003 at 07:35 AM
Ok yan Bro! Do you have idea how much?

positive_noise.  ;D
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: levi on Aug 21, 2003 at 10:14 PM
Reposting for a guest member.

 I saw Konzert AVR in Raon. It's not dolby digital but it's DD and DTS ready.  If your DVD has a built-in DD and DTS decoder, may home theatre ka na rin.
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 22, 2003 at 07:01 AM
Ok yan Bro! Do you have idea how much?

positive_noise.  ;D

I'll ask the salesperson pag bumalik ako sa GH, btw their whaferdale diamond set is only 14,800 (pwede pa daw sa 14,500)  :)
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: positive_noise on Aug 27, 2003 at 08:08 AM
bro, yung Konzert AVR lang magkano kaya?

positive_noise. ;D
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: positive_noise on Aug 27, 2003 at 08:13 AM
i believe the Pro Series Amplifier ng Konzert K10 is around 22T ang price. magkano kaya sa AVR or home entertainment lang. ???

enjoy!
positive_noise. ;D
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: positive_noise on Sep 12, 2003 at 10:30 AM
bump.
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: lance on Sep 12, 2003 at 12:16 PM
I own a Konzert amplifier, Model AV-502A. Analog nga lang yata ito eh. May decoder din for 5.1 di ko lang sure kung anong klase kasi may speaker input sa likod eh.....for front (A & B), Center & Rear. Mainly sa music ko lang although minsan i watch movie rin. Yung specs na nakalagay sa manual ay 500w+500w, I guess sa stereo siguro. Ok lang naman kasi yung speaker ko naman ay 400w yung rating, a dai-ichi floorstander. For music, solved naman ako. Pag nanunuod ako ng movie (vcd), ok din. Ang lakas kasi eh. For me. Music or Movie, it is very good na.
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: positive_noise on Sep 15, 2003 at 12:53 PM
I own a Konzert amplifier, Model AV-502A. Analog nga lang yata ito eh. May decoder din for 5.1 di ko lang sure kung anong klase kasi may speaker input sa likod eh.....for front (A & B), Center & Rear. Mainly sa music ko lang although minsan i watch movie rin. Yung specs na nakalagay sa manual ay 500w+500w, I guess sa stereo siguro. Ok lang naman kasi yung speaker ko naman ay 400w yung rating, a dai-ichi floorstander. For music, solved naman ako. Pag nanunuod ako ng movie (vcd), ok din. Ang lakas kasi eh. For me. Music or Movie, it is very good na.

Bro,

Magkano ang bili mo?

positive_noise. ;D
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: lance on Sep 15, 2003 at 01:28 PM
Php 3,500 iskor ko dun sa raon.  ;D Eto yung mga low tech na amplifier eh. he he he ......pero oks lang.....solved naman ako sa music eh......May control sya for treble, mid & bass kaya oks para sa akin. nababago ko ang output nya kung ano yung gusto, ko :) anyway.........di pa naman ako audio purist eh......basta maganda sa pandinig ko...... :)dun pa rin ako.
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: GC on Oct 08, 2003 at 09:09 PM
Meron ako ditong AV-302, integrated amp 200W per channel, smaller brother ng amp ni Lance. Nung una kong pinatugtog sa speakers ko, boomy yung bass tapos sobrang tining ng highs, wala nang masyadong detail kase nasasapawan nung boominess nung bass saka lakas nung highs.

Buti nalang nabasa ko tweaks ni Lance sa speakers. Tapos diniactivate ko din yung loudness...ayun! laking improvement dahil malinaw na and detailed yung tunog. Exactly like what Lance said in another thread. Yung loudness pala eh para sa low and high frequency lang, yung mid di kasali. Bass and Treble boost lang pala ito.

Sulit nga din naman pala ang Konzert amp. I think its the best among the cheap brands in the market today. Well, its just me.

Now it makes me wonder, anong use ng loudness kung compromised naman ang detail?


Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: lance on Oct 09, 2003 at 12:19 PM
GC- :)Bro, may kasama na pla ako dito na gumagamit ng konzert na integrated amp. Nice to know that. feel ko kasi puro mga high priced amp ang mga tao dito sa Pinoy DVD.....he he he...anyway..im happy to know na na improved mo pa ang tunog ng system mo dahil sa tweaks na ginawa ko. dati kasi ang ginagawa ko lahat activated eh..sa una ok lang pero katagalan nararamdaman ko na yung listening fatigue, pero nung dinis able ko yung loudness naging ok na..... :) whats the use of loudness?...baka pamparami ng pipindutin para magandang tingnan he he he.......joke lang...
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: GC on Oct 09, 2003 at 02:36 PM
GC- :)Bro, may kasama na pla ako dito na gumagamit ng konzert na integrated amp. Nice to know that. feel ko kasi puro mga high priced amp ang mga tao dito sa Pinoy DVD.....he he he...anyway..im happy to know na na improved mo pa ang tunog ng system mo dahil sa tweaks na ginawa ko. dati kasi ang ginagawa ko lahat activated eh..sa una ok lang pero katagalan nararamdaman ko na yung listening fatigue, pero nung dinis able ko yung loudness naging ok na..... :) whats the use of loudness?...baka pamparami ng pipindutin para magandang tingnan he he he.......joke lang...

LOL! Pampadagdag nga lang ata yun. hehe!

Yung authorized repair shop pala ng Konzert ay sa Pioneer Authorized repair shop din. Di kaya related yung Konzert sa Pioneer?  ???

Polido pagkakagawa ng Konzert kaya laking sulit din sa price diba? Yung knobs nya smooth ipihit, walang sayad habang pinipihit ito. Galing!


Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: lance on Oct 09, 2003 at 04:17 PM
sinabi mo pa dre......suave tumunog ang konzert.....he he he semrpe tayo dapat unang pumuri sa gear natin.....he he he...and dapat ok din speaker di bah?....baka nga related sa pioneer yon eh...pero related or hindi.....solved ako sa ampli ko.. ;)....btw..yung max na kaya ng tenga ko na volume na nagawa ko eh......around 9 o'clock position ng knob....medyo efficient kasi speaker ko eh...92db sensitivity kaya match. if ever na mag upgrade ako sa av reciever......sana mas maganda ang tunog sa konzert ko......pag hindi kasi nakakadismaya lang.....if ever lang naman.pero ngayon wala akong balak.......solved to the max ako.
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: Vhongbiker on Oct 09, 2003 at 04:52 PM
mga sir,
makikisabat sa usapan nyo, about the new subs of konzert, what do you think, any suggestion?

salamat,
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: GC on Oct 09, 2003 at 06:19 PM
mga sir,
makikisabat sa usapan nyo, about the new subs of konzert, what do you think, any suggestion?

salamat,

Punta ako sa Raon next week, mejo madalian nga lang pag punta ko dun may ibang lakad pa kase ako. Pero i'll try to see (and hear) the Konzert subs.
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: GC on Oct 09, 2003 at 06:36 PM
sinabi mo pa dre......suave tumunog ang konzert.....he he he semrpe tayo dapat unang pumuri sa gear natin.....he he he...and dapat ok din speaker di bah?....baka nga related sa pioneer yon eh...pero related or hindi.....solved ako sa ampli ko.. ;)....btw..yung max na kaya ng tenga ko na volume na nagawa ko eh......around 9 o'clock position ng knob....medyo efficient kasi speaker ko eh...92db sensitivity kaya match. if ever na mag upgrade ako sa av reciever......sana mas maganda ang tunog sa konzert ko......pag hindi kasi nakakadismaya lang.....if ever lang naman.pero ngayon wala akong balak.......solved to the max ako.

Diba Dai-Ichi speakers gamit mo for the Konzert? Dai-Ichi floor standers din yung akin (CT-523H) pero walang nakasulat sa likod regarding the sensitivity. Nakasulat lang max power out 200w unclipped saka yung nominal watts nya na 15w.
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: lance on Oct 09, 2003 at 08:36 PM
 :)Dai-Ichi na floor stander rin speaker ko model CT-813, ang nakasulat lang sa likod ay 400w max unclipped and 40 w minimum. Yung sensitivity nakasulat sa box nung binili ko. isinulat ko pa nga yung mga yon eh. 92 db sensitivity, 40hz to 20khz freq. response. 1st (or 2nd) order riley cross over. ;D
Palagay ko pati yung speaker ko..big brother rin ng speaker mo eh.....he he he.....kasi ako I always go sa malalakas. Kaya yung ampli ko 500w and speaker ko 400w naman......katwiran ko kasi pag gusto ko ugain yung bahay pwede kong ilakas......unlike kung book shelf lang na desigs for small rooms. Pano pag lumaki na bahay namin, e di upgrade na ako. Yoko nga mag upgrade hanggat maaari eh.....wala kasi ako pang upgrade.....he he he  ;D.....isa pa gusto ko yung gamit ko.....yung magiging matagal na gamit ko.pagdating ng panahon.......pwede kong ipagmalaki na "30 yrs na yang speaker at ampli ko na yan pero ok pa rin!"....oh di bah mas ok yun.....kesa sabihin kong "eto ang new model ngayon. bagong bili lang yan!" medyo sentimental kasi ako eh..
 ;)

Just my 2 cents, 7 pesos and 5 minutes..... ;)
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: Vhongbiker on Oct 10, 2003 at 06:22 AM
Punta ako sa Raon next week, mejo madalian nga lang pag punta ko dun may ibang lakad pa kase ako. Pero i'll try to see (and hear) the Konzert subs.

thank sir,
ok talaga d2 sa pinoydvd may 2lungan.
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: GC on Oct 10, 2003 at 07:10 PM
:)Dai-Ichi na floor stander rin speaker ko model CT-813, ang nakasulat lang sa likod ay 400w max unclipped and 40 w minimum. Yung sensitivity nakasulat sa box nung binili ko. isinulat ko pa nga yung mga yon eh. 92 db sensitivity, 40hz to 20khz freq. response. 1st (or 2nd) order riley cross over. ;D
Palagay ko pati yung speaker ko..big brother rin ng speaker mo eh.....he he he.....kasi ako I always go sa malalakas. Kaya yung ampli ko 500w and speaker ko 400w naman......katwiran ko kasi pag gusto ko ugain yung bahay pwede kong ilakas......unlike kung book shelf lang na desigs for small rooms. Pano pag lumaki na bahay namin, e di upgrade na ako. Yoko nga mag upgrade hanggat maaari eh.....wala kasi ako pang upgrade.....he he he  ;D.....isa pa gusto ko yung gamit ko.....yung magiging matagal na gamit ko.pagdating ng panahon.......pwede kong ipagmalaki na "30 yrs na yang speaker at ampli ko na yan pero ok pa rin!"....oh di bah mas ok yun.....kesa sabihin kong "eto ang new model ngayon. bagong bili lang yan!" medyo sentimental kasi ako eh..
 ;)

Just my 2 cents, 7 pesos and 5 minutes..... ;)

Buti na pansin mo yung sensitivity sa karton. Yung karton ng akin wala na, di ko na makikita yung sensitivity nya, unless may record pa yung showroom sa megamall.

Di kaya pag tinodo mo yang konzert amp mo eh tumalsik ka na sa lakas ng tunog? hehe!



Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: GC on Oct 13, 2003 at 10:05 AM
Lance, I tried to setup my speakers using the "audiophysic" way. Hindi na nagwawala yung bass kahit wala yung basahan sa ports. Try mo din sa iyo. Ito yung site:

http://www.polkaudio.com/home/faqad/advice.php?article=placement (http://www.polkaudio.com/home/faqad/advice.php?article=placement)
http://www.audiophysic.de/info/aufstellung/index_e.html (http://www.audiophysic.de/info/aufstellung/index_e.html)
http://www.immediasound.com/Speakersetup.html (http://www.immediasound.com/Speakersetup.html)


 
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: lance on Oct 13, 2003 at 10:43 AM
Buti na pansin mo yung sensitivity sa karton. Yung karton ng akin wala na, di ko na makikita yung sensitivity nya, unless may record pa yung showroom sa megamall.

Di kaya pag tinodo mo yang konzert amp mo eh tumalsik ka na sa lakas ng tunog? hehe!



Buti nga dre nakopya ko eh.kahit pano may record pa ako. Hindi ko pa napapaabot sa kalahati yung volume ng system ko eh.....max na yung hanggang 9 o'clock position ng knob or siguro hanggang lampas 1/4 ng max lang. yung na ang max na kaya ng bahay at furnitures namin eh.... ;Dnag uugaan na yung mga salamin at jalousie namin pati yero dun sa terrace kasi wala pang kisame yung dati. kaya nasira dati yung satellie speaker ko eh.....nasa set B kasi yon. eh pag nilalakasan ko Yung set A lang ginagamit ko kasi yung yung floor stander ko eh nakalimutan ko na naka AB pla yung speakers na gumagana. it means gumagana lahat pati satellite. ayun nayare yung isa hindi na gumana kasi 50w lang :( buti ok ipaayos sa dai-ichi...he he he 25 pesos lang binayaran ko.ok na ulit
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: lance on Oct 13, 2003 at 10:51 AM
Lance, I tried to setup my speakers using the "audiophysic" way. Hindi na nagwawala yung bass kahit wala yung basahan sa ports. Try mo din sa iyo. Ito yung site:

http://www.polkaudio.com/home/faqad/advice.php?article=placement (http://www.polkaudio.com/home/faqad/advice.php?article=placement)
http://www.audiophysic.de/info/aufstellung/index_e.html (http://www.audiophysic.de/info/aufstellung/index_e.html)
http://www.immediasound.com/Speakersetup.html (http://www.immediasound.com/Speakersetup.html)


 

dre, gusto ko talagang galaw galawin yung pwesto ng speakers ko kaya lang :-\ .............kaya lang..... :(.ayw ni misis......sya kasi nasusunod sa ayos ng bahay namin eh...dati nga habang natutulog sya nung gabi iniba ko ng ayos........so hindi nya alam.....nung umaga nung pumasok na ko sa office nag txt sa akin bat daw iniba ko.ibalik ko daw sa dati :-X......kaya kahit audiophysic pa yan.......misisway pa rin ang setup ng speakers ko....pero nag iisip pa rin ako ng way para maiayos ko sa gusto ko.......ok yung audiphysics way na yon eh......siguro kailangan ko pang husayan ang ang performance ko para pumayag na sya. ;D
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: GC on Oct 13, 2003 at 12:26 PM
dre, gusto ko talagang galaw galawin yung pwesto ng speakers ko kaya lang :-\ .............kaya lang..... :(.ayw ni misis......sya kasi nasusunod sa ayos ng bahay namin eh...dati nga habang natutulog sya nung gabi iniba ko ng ayos........so hindi nya alam.....nung umaga nung pumasok na ko sa office nag txt sa akin bat daw iniba ko.ibalik ko daw sa dati :-X......kaya kahit audiophysic pa yan.......misisway pa rin ang setup ng speakers ko....pero nag iisip pa rin ako ng way para maiayos ko sa gusto ko.......ok yung audiphysics way na yon eh......siguro kailangan ko pang husayan ang ang performance ko para pumayag na sya. ;D

konting lambing pa kay misis.  ;)
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: p@rekuy on Nov 06, 2003 at 08:07 PM
Guys i've been seeing some Konzert A/V Recievers around Quiapo yung 5.1 ready..

Can you post how's the performance of these type of amps perform? (sound quailty, heat buildup..)

Alam ko you guys have tried and some owns this kind of recievers/amps.

Salamat!
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: cire2003 on Nov 08, 2003 at 07:41 PM
mga bro! i have a konzert AV-502A. anyone intrested to buy? 3 mos old pa lang ito. im selling it for 2.5k lang.
call or text me na lang 0917-9476551. im leaving na kasi next month sa singapore eh.

salamat
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: cire2003 on Nov 08, 2003 at 07:43 PM
mga pre! eh yung sakura na receiver ok rin ba?
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: sgot on Nov 11, 2003 at 04:07 PM
pwede ba mag-audition nito sa mga bilihan sa quiapo?
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: GC on Nov 11, 2003 at 09:19 PM
pwede ba mag-audition nito sa mga bilihan sa quiapo?

Sa experience ko ang hirap mag audition sa raon kase ang ingay. di mo mapapakinggan ng mabuti yung bibilhin mo, whether amp or speaker.
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: sgot on Nov 12, 2003 at 09:16 AM
thanks GC.  at least kahit slight test to hear the sound meron kang maririnig kesa bibilhin mo agad.
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: gerald_invi on Nov 13, 2003 at 02:48 PM
Php 3,500 iskor ko dun sa raon.  ;D Eto yung mga low tech na amplifier eh. he he he ......pero oks lang.....solved naman ako sa music eh......May control sya for treble, mid & bass kaya oks para sa akin. nababago ko ang output nya kung ano yung gusto, ko :) anyway.........di pa naman ako audio purist eh......basta maganda sa pandinig ko...... :)dun pa rin ako.

bro
meron akong  konzert av 301 maganda ang sound quality di nga lang dd & dts pro SRS CINEMA SOUND SYA!
150+150 WATTS ok nga un hitsura mukhang mamahalin!
gold at balck un front nya...
kaya lang di ko na ginagamit mga buwan ko pa lang nagamit e wala kasi kong dvd player dati sinaksak ko lang sa computer e bawal pla un!
kaya binebenta ko ngaun yun konzert ko..
P3000 ang bili ko,nung may lang now im selling it for only P2000 wala pa ngang buyer e...
just sharing baka magustuhan mo lang! txt me if u want
09102326258

invi
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: lance on Nov 13, 2003 at 03:40 PM
bro
meron akong  konzert av 301 maganda ang sound quality di nga lang dd & dts pro SRS CINEMA SOUND SYA!
150+150 WATTS ok nga un hitsura mukhang mamahalin!
gold at balck un front nya...
kaya lang di ko na ginagamit mga buwan ko pa lang nagamit e wala kasi kong dvd player dati sinaksak ko lang sa computer e bawal pla un!
kaya binebenta ko ngaun yun konzert ko..
P3000 ang bili ko,nung may lang now im selling it for only P2000 wala pa ngang buyer e...
just sharing baka magustuhan mo lang! txt me if u want
09102326258

invi

dre, ang path ko ngayon eh full blown home theater na talaga, kaya baka this december dvd player ang bibilhin ko. (bigyan sana ako ng pambili ni misis. he he he :)) i can use my existing amplifier to power my front (dai-ichi floorstander) and my existing mini compo for my front or center. hapit kasi eh.....yung reciever nasa list pero hindi ko pa mababanaagan kung kailan ako makakabili ::). try mo sa buy and sell dre. baka may makakuha nyan. :)
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: GC on Nov 13, 2003 at 11:12 PM
kaya lang di ko na ginagamit mga buwan ko pa lang nagamit e wala kasi kong dvd player dati sinaksak ko lang sa computer e bawal pla un!

bro,
        Bakit daw bawal isaksak sa computer?

Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: tolits on Dec 09, 2003 at 07:15 PM
bro, yung Konzert AVR lang magkano kaya?

positive_noise. ;D
                                                                                                                                                                       positive noise,  konzert AV recivers released its 1st 5.1 AVR last May  it costs 4.5k noon huling tanong ko from the same store 4.2k baka ngayon lesser na baratin mo yung intsik baka bigay nang mura..
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Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: lance on Dec 10, 2003 at 10:01 AM
                                                                                                                                                                       positive noise,  konzert AV recivers released its 1st 5.1 AVR last May  it costs 4.5k noon huling tanong ko from the same store 4.2k baka ngayon lesser na baratin mo yung intsik baka bigay nang mura..
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 ???Pero wala pa rin yatang dd & dts decoder yon.
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: tamulmol on Dec 12, 2003 at 04:11 AM
mga bossing, any comment sa integrated stereo amp ng Konzert.  Ok po ba sa music?  Oongiiiii... tnx.
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: Superman on Dec 12, 2003 at 06:06 AM
mga bossing, any comment sa integrated stereo amp ng Konzert.  Ok po ba sa music?  Oongiiiii... tnx.

sir tamulmol,

OT, if i may ask, what does OOngiii mean??? marami na kasi ang nai-intriga...salamat po! 8)
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: lance on Dec 12, 2003 at 10:27 AM
mga bossing, any comment sa integrated stereo amp ng Konzert.  Ok po ba sa music?  Oongiiiii... tnx.

ako dre merong integrated amp na konzert. ok naman para sa pandinig ko. pair sa sa dai-ichi tower. solved na ko sa music. lalo ngayon na ang ginagamit ko ay Philips 727K na player, grabe ang linaw ng tunog, walang sabit.....siguro match lang silang lahat or maybe nasanay na lang ako. :)
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: lance on Dec 12, 2003 at 10:28 AM
pero dre, ano nga ba talaga yung Oongiiiii ;D
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: coolbum on Jan 17, 2004 at 09:54 PM
meron daw amplifier ang konzert, AV500, meron ng remote. anybody owns this amp? or any review on this amp? :)

thanks
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: Wagpo on Jan 20, 2004 at 08:19 AM
mga sir ok ba to konzert AV500? kasi balak ko sanang bumili nito, less than 5k lang kasi sa raon. DTS, Dolby Prologic, AM/FM Tuner, Karaoke Function.

meron na po bang nakapagtest nito?

review naman po plz!!! ;D

Wagpo
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: kimosabe on Jan 20, 2004 at 09:38 AM
mga sir ok ba to konzert AV500? kasi balak ko sanang bumili nito, less than 5k lang kasi sa raon. DTS, Dolby Prologic, AM/FM Tuner, Karaoke Function.

May DTS/DD decoder na ba ito or ready lang?
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: Wagpo on Jan 20, 2004 at 12:31 PM
sir kimosabe, di ko po sure kung decoder o ready lang yung DTS/DD. yun kasi yung nakalagay sa avr. ???

Wagpo
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: couch_potato on Jan 23, 2004 at 10:22 AM
Guys pa2long naman, Im on a look-out for a budget 5.1 amplifier (kulang sa budget for branded 5.1 AVR  ;D) and Im eyeing this 5.1 amplifiers which is Konzert AV-500 na nakita ko sa Raon for P 4,275 (DTS ready na sya, 200 watts RMS, may remote, with digital tuner, no DTS decoder though). Meron ba sa inyo na makapagbibigay ng review sa model na ito? Di ko pa sya na audition sa raon. Maganda ba ito compared sa other un-branded 5.1 amplifier in the market?

Ano kaya difference nya bukod sa presyo compared to other 5.1 amplifier ( Plardin, Sakura, Pro-mac ) which averages to P 3 - 4 thousand bucks? Ang nasasagot lang sakin ng salesman ng Konzert AV-500 ay gawa daw ito ng sister company ng Pioneer and ung service center ng Pioneer daw ang gumagawa nito kung sakali may problema within the 1 year warranty period... Any Reviews?

Balak ko ikabit ito as aking Philipps DVD 727K na may built-in DTS decoder and use the 5 pieces of speaker of my old SONY component and Sony subwoofer. Kapos lang talaga sa budget ngayon kaya I'd rather go muna sa Konzert amplifier to enjoy DTS DVD viewing at home.

Thanks in advance..  ;D
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: Wagpo on Jan 23, 2004 at 03:39 PM
couch_potato,

sir saan store mo nakita yung AV-500 na P4,275. saka pano mo nalaman na DTS Ready lang sya.

salamat po. ;D

Wagpo
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: PenoyDVD on Jan 23, 2004 at 07:08 PM
Meron ako ditong AV-302, integrated amp 200W per channel, smaller brother ng amp ni Lance. Nung una kong pinatugtog sa speakers ko, boomy yung bass tapos sobrang tining ng highs, wala nang masyadong detail kase nasasapawan nung boominess nung bass saka lakas nung highs.

Buti nalang nabasa ko tweaks ni Lance sa speakers. Tapos diniactivate ko din yung loudness...ayun! laking improvement dahil malinaw na and detailed yung tunog. Exactly like what Lance said in another thread. Yung loudness pala eh para sa low and high frequency lang, yung mid di kasali. Bass and Treble boost lang pala ito.

Sulit nga din naman pala ang Konzert amp. I think its the best among the cheap brands in the market today. Well, its just me.

Now it makes me wonder, anong use ng loudness kung compromised naman ang detail?





brod,
 San mo nabasa yung tweaks ni lance? Balak ko kasing bumili rin ng Konzert 502A
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: PenoyDVD on Jan 23, 2004 at 07:18 PM
mga bro! i have a konzert AV-502A. anyone intrested to buy? 3 mos old pa lang ito. im selling it for 2.5k lang.
call or text me na lang 0917-9476551. im leaving na kasi next month sa singapore eh.

salamat



Pre nabili na ba yung konzert?
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: PenoyDVD on Jan 23, 2004 at 07:32 PM
I own a Konzert amplifier, Model AV-502A. Analog nga lang yata ito eh. May decoder din for 5.1 di ko lang sure kung anong klase kasi may speaker input sa likod eh.....for front (A & B), Center & Rear. Mainly sa music ko lang although minsan i watch movie rin. Yung specs na nakalagay sa manual ay 500w+500w, I guess sa stereo siguro. Ok lang naman kasi yung speaker ko naman ay 400w yung rating, a dai-ichi floorstander. For music, solved naman ako. Pag nanunuod ako ng movie (vcd), ok din. Ang lakas kasi eh. For me. Music or Movie, it is very good na.


Bro Lance,

   Tanong ko lang kung pre-amp yung out ng sub-woofer....thanks
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: jam on Feb 11, 2004 at 09:26 AM
guys,
i need ur help, anong speaker ang bagay sa AV500? i'm planning to buy the daichi DTX 9.5T...
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: lance on Feb 11, 2004 at 09:49 AM


Bro Lance,

   Tanong ko lang kung pre-amp yung out ng sub-woofer....thanks


 ???Sorry bro di ko ma gets eh...pero if you ask if this amp (AV-502A) has a pre-out for sub?...the answer is yes. it has. left and right if im not mistaken. you can connect your active sub thru this connection. wala akong active sub kaya di ako makapag bigay ng review about this. hope this help. :)
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: lance on Feb 11, 2004 at 09:52 AM


Pre nabili na ba yung konzert?

mura na yan sa 2,500 bro. sa raon kasi last time na nagpunta ako dun hindi pa rin bumamaba yung price nyan eh...around 3,500 pa rin. kung di pa nabibili yan kunin mo na. check mo lang ng husto kung ok ang condition.
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: lance on Feb 11, 2004 at 09:59 AM
guys,
i need ur help, anong speaker ang bagay sa AV500? i'm planning to buy the daichi DTX 9.5T...

bro i think ok lang yang av500 and a dai-ichi dtx9.5t. if im not mistaken, 6 ohms yata yang speaker na yan pero the amp can handle that. try to audition para ikaw ang judge. :( kaya lang sa raon, yung pag audition eh hindi mo rin ma appreciate ng husto. pano ang gulo, daming tao, ang ingay pano kabi kabila ang tumutunog na malalakas, malalaman mo na lang pagdating sa bahay mo at na i set mo na...saka mo lang masasabi na. "OK PLA TONG NABILI KO!"  ;D
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: Maki on Feb 26, 2004 at 05:03 PM
matanong lang, sa av500r ba eh may seperate volume control yung center, surrounds anf fronts? and does the "master" volume control also control the volume of the subwoofer and nde lang pass through like the sakuras.. thanks...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: shuttertrigger on Jul 30, 2004 at 11:03 AM
Any more reviews for Konzert AV500 Receiver? Thanks!  ;)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: positive_noise on Aug 04, 2004 at 02:30 PM
i saw this new konzert AV500-R which is color silver that makes it look elegant than other affordable or low budget receiver... medyo hawig nga sa marantz. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: shuttertrigger on Aug 04, 2004 at 02:38 PM
i saw this new konzert AV500-R which is color silver that makes it look elegant than other affordable or low budget receiver... medyo hawig nga sa marantz. ;D ;D ;D

Sir, ok ba ito sa performance? pwede na ba for HT? may remote control na ba and tuner? Thanks!
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: vircor on Aug 05, 2004 at 05:22 PM
Singit ko lang, nakita n'yo na ba yung Konzert 5-pc speaker sa Raon, floorstander siya mukhang ok yung porma but ayaw setup nung mama mejo plado e? Ano comment n'yo?

Peace!  :)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: shuttertrigger on Aug 05, 2004 at 05:24 PM
Singit ko lang, nakita n'yo na ba yung Konzert 5-pc speaker sa Raon, floorstander siya mukhang ok yung porma but ayaw setup nung mama mejo plado e? Ano comment n'yo?

Peace!  :)

Ako dre nakita ko yon, around 4k plus kaso lang hindi ko narinig tumunog.. kaso wala pang kasamang sub dre.. ;D
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: vircor on Aug 05, 2004 at 05:29 PM
4K nga yung turing nung mama e, kaso kawalang gana ayaw isetup, sayang mukhang ok pa naman.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: positive_noise on Aug 05, 2004 at 08:39 PM


Sir, ok ba ito sa performance? pwede na ba for HT? may remote control na ba and tuner? Thanks!

Bro cire,

For the affordable/low cost category best buy na ang Konzert AV500-R combine it with generic player that has analog-out and DTX speakers ok na. ;D

yes, it has remote and tuner.

enjoy!
positive-noise. ;D
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: shuttertrigger on Aug 05, 2004 at 09:29 PM


Bro cire,

For the affordable/low cost category best buy na ang Konzert AV500-R combine it with generic player that has analog-out and DTX speakers ok na. ;D

yes, it has remote and tuner.

enjoy!


positive-noise. ;D


Sir Positive noise,

Thanks for enlightening. Meron na kasi akong philips 727k na player na may DTS decoder na rin. Do you think this would be a great match? Medyo parang nahihirapan ako kasi sa mga high end na AVR eh.. Thanks in advance ulit..

ok talaga dito may tulungan... :D ::)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: positive_noise on Aug 12, 2004 at 05:35 PM
Hi Bro Cire,

it is better to buy branded receiver... but if your in a tight budget, i can say Konzert AVR 500-R now a days is the best buy for low cost receiver. no problem at maganda pa ang remote compare to sakura. ;D plus the elegant look.. ;) mas lalong ok pa sa philips player mo na may dts na! ;D

enjoy!
positive-noise. ;D
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: shuttertrigger on Aug 12, 2004 at 05:47 PM
Hi Bro Cire,

it is better to buy branded receiver... but if your in a tight budget, i can say Konzert AVR 500-R now a days is the best buy for low cost receiver. no problem at maganda pa ang remote compare to sakura. ;D plus the elegant look.. ;) mas lalong ok pa sa philips player mo na may dts na! ;D

enjoy!
positive-noise. ;D

Thanks for the heads up positive noise, siguro pag iisipan ko muna..makakapaghintay pa naman ako eh..
 ;D Thanks ulit  :D
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: dvh on Sep 22, 2004 at 01:48 PM
so wala pa bang nakakabili ng av500r ng konzert?

pls give more comments.

thanks
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: markygail on Sep 29, 2004 at 09:22 PM
anong specs ng AV500-R? just wanna compare it lang sana sa sakura 387.

separate ba yung controls ng fronts left/right, rear left/right at center? tska kasama ba sa main volume yung subwoofer?

Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Sep 30, 2004 at 06:31 PM
Okay, to settle all your ? regarding Konzert AV500 here is my little review:

Bought at Raon last Feb 2004, for P4,500

Specs:
100wrms x 2 front (F)
050wrms x 1 center (C)
050wrms x2 rear (R)
basic DSP features: Hall, Room, Concert, etc.
NO BUILT-IN DECODER! NO COAX/OPTICAL IN/OUT!
with inputs for F, C and R from any DVD player's built-in decoder output
20 preset fm stations
digital INDIVIDUAL volume controls for F, C and R
digital bass/trebel tone controls for front only
digital balance l/r control
analog mic vol/tone/echo control
mic input x 2
full-function remote control

SET-UP AND PERFORMANCE:
I used assembled front speakers with 12" Crown woofer, 5.5 Konzert mid and metal dome Konzert tweeter.  No crossover, I just used capacitors for mid and tweeter.  Previously I tried using a passive crossover but poor sound, capacitors are better!  For the center and rear, I used non-branded "Jordan" speaker set, with 80watts and 89db sensitvity ratings.  I dont have subwoofer.  My DVD is Xtreme player, the "pioneer-look-a-like" model.  My TV is a surplus 32-inch Sony wide screen with double tuner.  So how does it sounds?  GOOD to a little bit of very good for movies.  FAIR to good for music.  Overall, the sound is smooth.

COMMENTS:
1.  The main volume WILL NOT CONTROL the C and R channels!  So everytime you adjust the overall volume, you have to adjust each channel INDIVIDUALLY.  This is very annoying.  Another thing, since the volume and tone controls are digital, the settings will return to default everytime you turn off and on the unit.  Very inconvenient because you have to set-up everything again everytime you turn-on the receiver.
2.  The FM section is not good, poor reception and noisy.
3.  The Built-in cooling fan of the receiver is quite noisy, it is audible in my listening position during night time use.
4.  Very loud "thud" sound when you turn-off the receiver.

MY VERDICT:
I sold it to my cousin last week for P2,000.

MY PRESENT SET-UP:
I just bought a Yamaha RXV-550, its an awesome 6.1 receiver at 90wrms into 8ohms x 6!  Got it from Ambassador-Greenhills at P19,800.  I still use the same speaker set-up above.  My next project: Soundquest active subwoofer, 150wrms at P8,000 pesos hopefully I can buy before xmas.

Ü
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: markygail on Sep 30, 2004 at 06:48 PM
sa sakura ba ganun din? nagrereset yung settings?  nagkakaron ng sound when turning the unit off? and hindi sumusunod yung volume ng center and rear sa overall volume?
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: markygail on Sep 30, 2004 at 07:02 PM
nakabili na kasi ako ng Av500-R. tama ka nga, but temporary lang naman tong konzert ko, maybe christmas i can buy a yamaha amp na. tom pa ko bibili ng Wharf WH2 for the center and rear so i cant tell pa regarding the 5.1 quality, but tinesting to dun sa pinagbilhan ko and it sounded great! konzert lang ang gamit nilang speakers nun. what more kung wharfedale pa. i think i can live with the reset thing coz mga thrice a week lang naman ako nanonood ng movies.

nga pala, pano makakasabay yung volume ng sub dun sa overall volume?
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Sep 30, 2004 at 07:07 PM
sa sakura ba ganun din? nagrereset yung settings?  nagkakaron ng sound when turning the unit off? and hindi sumusunod yung volume ng center and rear sa overall volume?

Nagka-lesson ako sa pagbili ko nung Konzert AV500.. kasi nun nag-trust lang ako sa salesman, di ko sya ti-nest masyado 1st time kasi ako mag HT kaya excited.  Yun pa mali ko, ni hindi ko sinilip yung iba like Sakura, basta kasi sabi ko sa salesman "bigay mo sakin yung pinakamaganda" 'yun tuloy nabiktima ako.  For you before buying i-test mo na lang muna, kalikutin mo mga settings tapos off-on, bunutin mo power para matest kung retain yung mga settings.  If you have the chance i-audition mo.

Ü
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Sep 30, 2004 at 07:13 PM
.....nga pala, pano makakasabay yung volume ng sub dun sa overall volume?

Inde rin, naiiwan lang yung subwoofer!  So, tatayo ka, lapit sa likod ng S to adjust volume.  My solution nuon: sa DVD player volume na lang ako nag aadjust para lahat 5.1 channels saba-sabay maadjust ang vol.

Ü
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: markygail on Sep 30, 2004 at 07:19 PM
The flaws that

actually kaya i choose konzert over sakura  387/377 because of the following reasons:

1. the power rating of sakura 387 is 250w or 400w i think on the front channels, and its too high for my speakers to handle it, kung floorstanders kaya pa siguro but nandun pa din yung pagiingat sa volume settings dahil baka masunog, but since i don't have enough space to accomodate a floorstander, i can only get a bookshelf, we all know that most bookshelfs only has a max power of 100watts and AV500R's front channel is rated at 100w so saktong sakto sa bookshelfs. although the rear and center's rating is the same with the sakura 387 which is 50w.

2. The AV500R has a dolby prologic function on which the latest sakura lacks.

3. The physical look of the AV500R for me is much more elegant. silver kasi yung player ko(philips 642k) and it goes with it.

so thats it.  :)


Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: backdraft on Oct 01, 2004 at 05:50 AM
bros, san ba nakakabili nitong Konzert na to and how much., kulay silver ba sya?

pinag- iisipan ko tuloy kung sakura or konzert eh. ano ba talaga.

thanks
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: shuttertrigger on Oct 01, 2004 at 08:35 AM
bros, san ba nakakabili nitong Konzert na to and how much., kulay silver ba sya?

pinag- iisipan ko tuloy kung sakura or konzert eh. ano ba talaga.

thanks

bro backdraft,

meron sa raon pre ang huling tingin ko don 4.7k tapos nakita sa parksquare 6.5k siyempre depende sa puwesto yan..Yup! silver siya..sabi nga ni positive - noise hawig siya sa marantz.
pero kung ako sa iyo i-audition mo muna yung konzert at sakura then from there tsaka ka mag decide..sabi nga di ba "Trust your ear"..good luck on your AVR hunt... ;D

cire
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: shuttertrigger on Oct 01, 2004 at 08:39 AM
Okay, to settle all your ? regarding Konzert AV500 here is my little review:

Bought at Raon last Feb 2004, for P4,500

Specs:
100wrms x 2 front (F)
050wrms x 1 center (C)
050wrms x2 rear (R)
basic DSP features: Hall, Room, Concert, etc.
NO BUILT-IN DECODER! NO COAX/OPTICAL IN/OUT!
with inputs for F, C and R from any DVD player's built-in decoder output
20 preset fm stations
digital INDIVIDUAL volume controls for F, C and R
digital bass/trebel tone controls for front only
digital balance l/r control
analog mic vol/tone/echo control
mic input x 2
full-function remote control

SET-UP AND PERFORMANCE:
I used assembled front speakers with 12" Crown woofer, 5.5 Konzert mid and metal dome Konzert tweeter.  No crossover, I just used capacitors for mid and tweeter.  Previously I tried using a passive crossover but poor sound, capacitors are better!  For the center and rear, I used non-branded "Jordan" speaker set, with 80watts and 89db sensitvity ratings.  I dont have subwoofer.  My DVD is Xtreme player, the "pioneer-look-a-like" model.  My TV is a surplus 32-inch Sony wide screen with double tuner.  So how does it sounds?  GOOD to a little bit of very good for movies.  FAIR to good for music.  Overall, the sound is smooth.

COMMENTS:
1.  The main volume WILL NOT CONTROL the C and R channels!  So everytime you adjust the overall volume, you have to adjust each channel INDIVIDUALLY.  This is very annoying.  Another thing, since the volume and tone controls are digital, the settings will return to default everytime you turn off and on the unit.  Very inconvenient because you have to set-up everything again everytime you turn-on the receiver.
2.  The FM section is not good, poor reception and noisy.
3.  The Built-in cooling fan of the receiver is quite noisy, it is audible in my listening position during night time use.
4.  Very loud "thud" sound when you turn-off the receiver.

MY VERDICT:
I sold it to my cousin last week for P2,000.

MY PRESENT SET-UP:
I just bought a Yamaha RXV-550, its an awesome 6.1 receiver at 90wrms into 8ohms x 6!  Got it from Ambassador-Greenhills at P19,800.  I still use the same speaker set-up above.  My next project: Soundquest active subwoofer, 150wrms at P8,000 pesos hopefully I can buy before xmas.

Ü

dude, does this mean di approve sa iyo ang konzert AV500R?  ;)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: juneaki on Oct 01, 2004 at 09:07 AM
Before i bought my Sakura AV-377, i compared it first with two other AVRs, the konzert 500 and a plardin. Yung plardin ay amplifier lang at di tunay na five channel ampli so immediately i discarded it. Natira na lang ay sakura at konzert since halos pareho ang features ng dalawa.

Pareho silang may separate control sa lahat ng channel kaya lang yung sakura sumusunod yung center at surround channel with the main volume control except yung subwoofer. We tested both AVRs using the konzert 5.1 speakers set. Yung konzert hirap na hirap syang bayohin yung fronts while dun sa sakura, hirap din pero a lot better than the konzert. Sinubukan namin na i-hook yung DTX slim tower to both AVRs and sakura handily defeats konzert. To make the story short, Sakura AV-377 ang binili ko and ejoyed it a lot as my bedroom HT set up, until i went pure audio sa sala using an onkyo surplus amp at inakyat ko na sa bedroom yung aking HT set up na nasa sala.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: markygail on Oct 01, 2004 at 09:25 AM
bros, san ba nakakabili nitong Konzert na to and how much., kulay silver ba sya?

pinag- iisipan ko tuloy kung sakura or konzert eh. ano ba talaga.

thanks

well. kanya kanyang taste lang. basahin mo sir yung mga reasons kung bakit ko pinili yung konzert AV500R over the sakura 377/387.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Oct 01, 2004 at 09:54 AM


dude, does this mean di approve sa iyo ang konzert AV500R?  ;)

Actually, ok naman sya for beginners who wants to experience HT first hand.  Nung time na ginamit ko sya, na-meet naman nya expectations ko for a decent HT, pero syempre sa kalaunan na-out grow ko na rin sya kasi kahit papano naman e natuto na ako kung anu talaga yung "serious HT".  Yes, Konzert do deliver decent performance which is good enough for starters in HT.  I recommend this Konzert sa mga gusto mag-start at mag-aral ng HT, very minimal kasi ang investment.  Pero if you are really serious in buiding your HT and you have the budget, wag na ito bilhin mo, dumiretso ka na sa branded na receiver.

Ü
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: shuttertrigger on Oct 01, 2004 at 10:07 AM


Actually, ok naman sya for beginners who wants to experience HT first hand.  Nung time na ginamit ko sya, na-meet naman nya expectations ko for a decent HT, pero syempre sa kalaunan na-out grow ko na rin sya kasi kahit papano naman e natuto na ako kung anu talaga yung "serious HT".  Yes, Konzert do deliver decent performance which is good enough for starters in HT.  I recommend this Konzert sa mga gusto mag-start at mag-aral ng HT, very minimal kasi ang investment.  Pero if you are really serious in buiding your HT and you have the budget, wag na ito bilhin mo, dumiretso ka na sa branded na receiver.

Ü

thanks pare..buti na lang nakapag kontrol ako dati.. seryosohan na talaga ang pag ipon para sa branded receiver..ok talaga dito sa pinoy information is everywhere!  ;D
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Oct 01, 2004 at 02:40 PM
Sa mga china/local amps and receivers I only respect Konzert.  Actually dalawa ang Konzert units ko, yung 502 stereo amp at 500 receiver.  Yung 500 receiver dinispose ko na last week and I replaced it with Yamaha RXV-550.  Pero yung 502 stereo amp hindi ko ididispose, sya kasi gamit kong "pangharabas" at pangkaraoke sa inuman, matindi yun kahit subuan ko ng de-kinseng pang-mobile na speakers lumalaban talaga!  Nasubukan ko yun nung last newyear, inilatag ko sa kalsada sa labas ng bahay namin, grabe napasayaw ko buong barangay!  'Yun nga lang, hataw din sa init yung amp, pwede ka na nga magprito ng itlog sa ibabaw eh, hehehe!

Ü
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: shuttertrigger on Oct 01, 2004 at 02:53 PM
Sa mga china/local amps and receivers I only respect Konzert.  Actually dalawa ang Konzert units ko, yung 502 stereo amp at 500 receiver.  Yung 500 receiver dinispose ko na last week and I replaced it with Yamaha RXV-550.  Pero yung 502 stereo amp hindi ko ididispose, sya kasi gamit kong "pangharabas" at pangkaraoke sa inuman, matindi yun kahit subuan ko ng de-kinseng pang-mobile na speakers lumalaban talaga!  Nasubukan ko yun nung last newyear, inilatag ko sa kalsada sa labas ng bahay namin, grabe napasayaw ko buong barangay!  'Yun nga lang, hataw din sa init yung amp, pwede ka na nga magprito ng itlog sa ibabaw eh, hehehe!

Ü

ok yan dre.. kung yung amp mo dre is 502A, pareho tayo nina Lance...kaso lang, kaso lang nilagay ko na sa buy and sell para makapag-raise ng fund for Eric's Home Theater Foundation..Sobra nga lakas ng amp na yon dre ..pang hatawan talaga... ;D
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Oct 01, 2004 at 03:15 PM
502 lang yung sa akin, hindi "502A".  Actually pareho lang sila ng mukha at specs, unang lumabas yung 502 tapos after a year lumabas na yang 502A.  Ang difference ng 502A sa 502 ay new lay-out ng connectors sa likod at addition of cooling fan.  Walang cooling fan yung 502 ko kaya grabe mag-init, pero ok lang sa kanya di naman nag su-shutdown; parang makinang diesel, habang umiinit lalo gumaganda ang takbo!

Ü
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: markygail on Oct 04, 2004 at 10:44 PM
Wohooo!!!!! ;D just bought the WH2 set kanina, i have a Konzert AV 500R and yakang yaka niya yung WH2! astig! jvc mini compo lang yung fronts ko but grabe. match na match sila, what more pa kaya kung wharf 8.1 ang fronts ko(yun ang plano ko pag may extra money na). played music and turned on the prologic mode and ayun! hataw sa clarity! tried jazz, r & B, pati yung best of enya. haha. pati sa HT ang lufet! grabe. ive tried the superbit edition of matrix reloaded and parang nasa loob ako nung scene tska yung ballistic. ummm... DTS? haha. kayang kaya. mas malupit pala DTS, mas separate ang sound. but konti lang DTS dvd's ko dito eh so ngayon alam ko na kung bakit halos lahat ng audiophiles hinahanap lagi yung may DTS. tska ive upgraded my sub cable to a rg6 cable(rca wire lang dati eh) and all i can say is....  ;D :o sa music mas tight na yung bass tska mas rsponsive na, sa movies naman i can feel the bass na tska parang hindi ko na alam kung saan nanggaling yung bass. my sub nga pala is a US Audio 512 MK2.


isa lang ang problem ko.... walang main speaker out yung player ko(philips 642k), 5.1 outs lang so everytime na i switch to prologic, i'll put the fronts cable to the amp's aux or cd inputs. i'll just buy a decent cd player na lang...


ano nga pala ang affordable na good sounding na cd player ma hindi namimili. kahit 2nd hand ok lang basta in top running condition physically and internally.

Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Oct 07, 2004 at 10:57 AM
May ng PM sa akin from one of the forum members here, tinanong nya kung paano raw maaalis yung  "thump" sound pag ino-off yung Konzert receiver".  I will make public yung sagot ko sa PM nya para naman makinabang din yung ibang Konzert receiver users here:

"Bago mo i-off yung Konzert receiver, hinaan mo muna ng todo yung volume (to -64).  Pag may "thump" pa rin, try mo maglagay ng capacitor; 'yung ceramic, flat capacitor = 0.10uf 400v ang rating.  Solder it across the power button termials, mavo-void na yung warranty mo kasi bubukasn mo na yung takip ng receiver e.  Be warned, hindi ko actual na nasubukan ito, nakuha ko lang ang idea sa nakita kong capacitor na nakakabit sa ibang amp na ang rating ay 70 watts per channel.  Hindi rin ako sure kung 100% effective para sa Konzert yung capacitor, depende rin kasi sa rating at klase nung capacitor e, maaring mabawasan lang yung lakas ng thump.  Good luck!"

Ü
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: mcbry on Nov 18, 2004 at 09:08 PM
any new reviews on this AV 500R?

  :)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: aHobbit on Nov 22, 2004 at 01:03 PM
Appreciate info on Konzert Service Center
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: Jude on Dec 12, 2004 at 11:44 AM
Just bought a Konzert stereo amp (200W+200W). Ang lakas nga, kayang-kaya yung speakers sa simbahan, abot hanggang labas yung tunog. At malinis pa yung sound niya.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: boldventure on Dec 13, 2004 at 01:25 PM
what's the newest model, 300R daw sabi sa Raon?

Any reviews on 300R?

Magkano kaya?

tnx
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: cybermoja on Jan 16, 2005 at 11:02 PM
just saw the konzert 300R set up in abenson,galleria.. It looks sleek and nice although I haven't auditioned it.....  anyone have? Also please post the price tag on this baby.....  and also a pic of the front and back panel... thanks.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: skylark on Jan 29, 2005 at 12:10 PM
pwede po ba mag post ng prices ng konzert all model.

salamat po  O0
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: Maki on Feb 03, 2005 at 02:34 PM
i think the 300r is arund 2.8k or was that 3.2k, napakinggan ko lang once, haphazard yung pag kabit...hehehe problema lang is walang screen yung amp, di ko natry i-fiddle remote...sabi nung may-ari nung shop faface out na daw yung 500r. pero mas malakas pa din yung 500r, beefier construct. sinilip namin yung 300r, sa loob isang torroidal lang gamit (as opposed sa 2 torroidal na gamit ng 500r)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: egzbuen on Aug 26, 2005 at 01:13 AM
pwede po ba mag post ng prices ng konzert all model.

salamat po  O0

Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: aaron1274 on Aug 26, 2005 at 01:52 PM
hi,

I'm a user of Konzert AV-300R. Bought mine here in the province for P3,500. It is working well. I paired it with my Klipsch Quintet. It has no DD or DTS decoders but good thing my player have those built in. HAppy with it right now but hoping for a high end one soon.  ;D
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: han on Oct 07, 2005 at 10:35 PM
mga bro bago lang ako eh may question lang ako paano ba malalaman ang orig na Konzert 502A amp sa raon dami kasi imitation eh konti tulong naman mga friends tight kasi budget ko eh baka makabili ako ng jafakes eh thank sa lahat
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: couch_potato on Oct 17, 2005 at 09:35 AM
Bro's san po ba ang service center ni Konzert?

I just found out last night that my My Konzert 500R ampli was not functioning properly (naitodo ata ng anak ko ung volume ng matagal nung huling ginamit nya)... nawalan ng output ung front speakers pero ung rear and center meron.. and ung volume and selector knob nya di na rin gumagana so remote na lang gamit ko to control the ampli.. too bad out of warranty na ung unit ko  :'(.. 

appreciate any info regarding authorized KONZERT service center where I can bring my unit for repair. Thanks.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: shuttertrigger on Oct 17, 2005 at 04:37 PM
Bro's san po ba ang service center ni Konzert?

I just found out last night that my My Konzert 500R ampli was not functioning properly (naitodo ata ng anak ko ung volume ng matagal nung huling ginamit nya)... nawalan ng output ung front speakers pero ung rear and center meron.. and ung volume and selector knob nya di na rin gumagana so remote na lang gamit ko to control the ampli.. too bad out of warranty na ung unit ko  :'(.. 

appreciate any info regarding authorized KONZERT service center where I can bring my unit for repair. Thanks.

i believe konzert is under licensed by pioneer .. if you still have the warranty, it states that you can bring your konzert at pioneer service center in guadalupe makati (not sure). better call pioneer service center and tell them your concerns.. hope this helps.. ;)
Title: Things to know about KonZert 502A amp!!!
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Nov 05, 2005 at 08:37 PM
Hi just want to share something about a cheap amp but a very reliable one the KonZert 502A Karaoke/Stereo Amp.

I recently bought this sa Raon in Quiapo, for Php 3,500.00. the specs are these:

500W + 500W Max Stereo
50W Center
50W + 50W Surround

1.) Hindi nya binigay ang exact technical specifications sa manual, at wala rin indication ng total power consumption or even speaker hook-ups nito sa back panel ng amp, so its hard to distinguish kung hanggang saan ang capabilities nito. 

2.) Suppose to be Pro-Logic ang amp na ito! pero when I try to hook up it up with a 5 channels speaker, wala decoding na nangyari, and pro-logic system are dedicated channels. Fronts L/C/R while ang surrounds remain mono's, pero when I try a programme material (e.g. 2 fast 2 furious) meron nga steering ng L/R channels pero pag dating sa critical Center, SABLAY! hindi lang center channel ang may vocal's pati L/R at surround niya. Surrounds should only project ambiance (passing cars, stray bullets, passing persons or things etc.).

3.) Karaoke daw ang amp na ito, RIGHT!!! when iItry a videoke material and hook up my Shure PG48 vocal microphone, SABLAY ulit! may vocals level nga at may echo, pero walang intensity, suppose to be may digital delay ito, pero walang depth or intensity ang boses ng kakanta dito, kase walang delay or reverb buti pa ang Promac meron, with having technical similarities. I have to add up a effects mic mixer.

Sa visual appearance naman, para daw hindi ka ma fake according to the sales person (official distributor of KonZert products) eto daw ang mga palatandaan, dahil almost gayang gaya na daw ng mga pirates ang products nila, here it is:

a.) Look for the warranty card, dahil ang products nila ay may warranty for 1 year inclusive of all parts and services, plus may corresponding serial nos. ito.

b.) Yung engraving ng KONZERT name sa top portion ng amp, malalim ang pagkaka metal stamp nito malinaw at hindi mababaw.

c.) May 3 switch outlet sa back panel ng amp, that can handle up to 300W max.

d.) Yung top portion ng amp may grill so when you peek inside, yung PCBoard daw ay must be light brown ang immitation daw ay dark brown or green, plus ang power supply nito at torrodial transformer at 8 pcs ang power transistors nito hindi ko lang alam kung ano model type.                     
         
So my final verdict. This is to my opinon lang naman, hindi ito pang home theater dahil kahit sa Pro-logic hindi niya ito ma-perform ng tama at wala rin future enhancement dahil stereo inputs lang ito walang 5 channels input. At sa karaoke naman wala silbi ang front inputs nito sa Mic kung depth at intensity ang hanap mo, you have to add up a digital effects mic mixer.

PERO MAY FEW PRO'S ITO. THIS AMP CAN HANDLE A PROFESSIONAL LOUDSPEAKER UPTO 500WATTS" PEAK!!! . I hooked this with a professional studio loudspeaker monitor (horn and 15" driver rated at 500W peak)12 hour straight party music, walang sablay, we have all the music power we need and i can say this amp categorize as a Hi-fi dahil sa mga integrated controls nito (e.g. bass, mid, high etc.) a hi-fi amp that can handle enough power as a professional amp, plus imagine the torture na ginagawa ng mga sales person sa Raon sa amp na ito so you can rely on this pag dating sa tibay, basta caution lang dapat tama lang ang hook-ups ng mga speaker.

Sa music power walang duda sa amp na ito, pero caution: dont try hooking it up with a 2/4ohms load.  dahil pretty sure damage may occur. Sa clarity i can rate it 6.5 out of a 10 point scale pero if you have an old laptop na may SPDIF out try mo input ito, dagdag effects kung baga.

But for Php. 3,500.00. this is very cheap! kung hindi ka naman ganun kaselan at hindi ka pala rely sa mga technical nos na makikita mo sa specs at  loud music and stereo lover ka, Okey.

I'll update more info's after I break-in this amp more.     

Title: Re: Things to know about KonZert 502A amp!!!
Post by: ATJr. on Nov 05, 2005 at 08:44 PM
hi,
is it possible for you to open the top lid and take photo, so we can all have a stab as to its quality?

thanks,
tony
Title: Re: Things to know about KonZert 502A amp!!!
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Nov 05, 2005 at 08:53 PM
hi,
is it possible for you to open the top lid and take photo, so we can all have a stab as to its quality?

thanks,
tony

Tony,

There's a warranty sticker attached to the side screws. kaya I can't open the top lid. but ill try to photo it. medyo malalaki yung mga slot's sa top portion eh, inside is visible somehow. anyways I have a question, how can I post the photos here? I need the procedures. :)

Thank's   
Title: Re: Things to know about KonZert 502A amp!!!
Post by: ATJr. on Nov 05, 2005 at 09:07 PM
hi,

you need a photo hosting site like www.photobucket.com , you can create a free account then upload your photo's. once you have that it will be very easy.

but for 3500, this amp surely rocks! i can not fault this amp if only for the price.
Title: Re: Things to know about KonZert 502A amp!!!
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Nov 06, 2005 at 05:56 PM
hi,

you need a photo hosting site like www.photobucket.com , you can create a free account then upload your photo's. once you have that it will be very easy.

but for 3500, this amp surely rocks! i can not fault this amp if only for the price.

Tony,

Here are some of the photos I took.

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC00279.jpg)

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC00300.jpg)

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC00293.jpg)

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC00291.jpg)

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC00298.jpg)
Some how the size of the Torrodial can be seen, it is almost half the size of the casing. but I really haven't got any idea about its rating.

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC00280.jpg)

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC00295.jpg)

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC00289.jpg)

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC00296.jpg)

Sorry, I haven't able to put out the top lid because of the warranty. Anyways this amp has a bit heavy weight. but I hope this photo help.
Title: Re: Things to know about KonZert 502A amp!!!
Post by: ATJr. on Nov 06, 2005 at 09:21 PM
heatsinks are not that big! but at the bottom picture there is a thermal cut- out attached to the heatsinks, this will protect the amp's output transistors from overheating(thermal run-away)

main filter cap is rated at 10000ufd, but i did not get the wvdc rating, if the traffo is 32-0-32 as jojo said, then i bet the they are 50 volt types.

therefore, the rails are at +/-45 volts, so in terms of static sine waves, output power is therefore, 80 watts per channel, both channels driven, at 8ohms.

how they got the 500watt rating i do not know! nor am i interested to know.

at 3500, construction is superb i would say! i may yet get one.
Title: Re: Things to know about KonZert 502A amp!!!
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 06, 2005 at 10:36 PM
wow at naka Toshiba pa na opts.  8)

Title: Re: Things to know about KonZert 502A amp!!!
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Nov 06, 2005 at 11:02 PM
heatsinks are not that big! but at the bottom picture there is a thermal cut- out attached to the heatsinks, this will protect the amp's output transistors from overheating(thermal run-away)

main filter cap is rated at 10000ufd, but i did not get the wvdc rating, if the traffo is 32-0-32 as jojo said, then i bet the they are 50 volt types.

therefore, the rails are at +/-45 volts, so in terms of static sine waves, output power is therefore, 80 watts per channel, both channels driven, at 8ohms.

how they got the 500watt rating i do not know! nor am i interested to know.

at 3500, construction is superb i would say! i may yet get one.

Thanks Tony,

At least I now have some idea about this amp. ciguro the 500W/ch eh for marketing purposes only ala BOSE. :D Anyways, the performance is good for an average joe, I'm just wondering, high current nga kaya ito? kasi for it to produce such power para makaya niya ang 500W 15" P/A professional loudspeaker + Horn at a certain level. yung cone excursion is really pumping. and its just producing an average heat. ??? ??? ??? well maganda lang ciguro ang pagkaka construction nito meron naman ciguro QC kahit local at ciguro may man hours din for engineering research ang KonZert.

pahabol na question, bridge kaya ang speaker A + B nito?.

THX       
Title: Re: Things to know about KonZert 502A amp!!!
Post by: ATJr. on Nov 07, 2005 at 07:46 AM
i noticed the heatsinks are more on the fron part of hte amp, you can put two 80mmfans atop the heatsinks for better cooling if you intend to use this amp for pa work!

bridging these amps will double the power, in theory, bridging quaruples the power but since we do not know how the power transformer can handle it so twice the power is a safe bet!

Quote
yung cone excursion is really pumping.

this could be a sign that the amp is laboring! it is having a hard time controlling the speaker cones!
Title: Re: Things to know about KonZert 502A amp!!!
Post by: aHobbit on Nov 07, 2005 at 10:39 AM
It already has an exhaust fan at the back, switched by a sensor attached to the heatsink. Bought it at 2k 2nd hand - for marathon outside listening - pang-haragan.  ;D  ;D  ;D

It has (it looks like) 3 more auxilliary amp at lower power - located at the rear of the amp. I have not tested it yet except the front channels.

Good materials (cheap pa) sana for the GC housing and power supply (but have no time to tinker with it for now). The torroidal xformer is 32Vac - too high for the GC also.
Title: Re: Things to know about KonZert 502A amp!!!
Post by: ATJr. on Nov 07, 2005 at 11:59 AM
@aHobbit,

can you take out the lid and take photos?

the 3 other small amps could very well be gainclone chips, ala lm1875....

Quote
The torroidal xformer is 32Vac - too high for the GC also.

you can always wind extra windings in series with the primary to get the voltages down to gc levels ;D or you can use lm383 voltage regs to bring down the dc rails. ;D
Title: Re: Things to know about KonZert 502A amp!!!
Post by: aHobbit on Nov 07, 2005 at 12:47 PM
can you take out the lid and take photos?

It is in my parents house for now - can only do pix after a week - will try.

the 3 other small amps could very well be gainclone chips, ala lm1875....

Yup, looks like it is - but have not really verified it.
Title: Re: Things to know about KonZert 502A amp!!!
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 07, 2005 at 01:16 PM
hanns1976,

The Sakura version is not in bridge mode, it is a a full complimentary pp ss amp. Probably a class ab but the schematic shows a fixed resistor in the bias circuit and be also biased in class b though I think they won't do that.

2ny,

you're right, the rear amps are tda2030 chipamps.  ;D btw, you mean lm338 not lm383 right?  ;D

aHobbit,

swerte mo naman, 2k mo lang nakuha.  ;)

Title: Re: Things to know about KonZert 502A amp!!!
Post by: shuttertrigger on Nov 07, 2005 at 01:46 PM

aHobbit,

swerte mo naman, 2k mo lang nakuha.  ;)



oo nga sir aHobbit, swerte mo naman... hehehe... ;D
Title: Re: Things to know about KonZert 502A amp!!!
Post by: ATJr. on Nov 07, 2005 at 03:00 PM
 ;) ;D
Title: Re: Things to know about KonZert 502A amp!!!
Post by: aHobbit on Nov 08, 2005 at 01:25 PM
oo nga sir aHobbit, swerte mo naman... hehehe... ;D

Sa yo galing yon no!

Jojo, LM338 is a regulator if I am not mistaken! OK pala aux amp ni Konzert ano - di ko pinag aksayahan tingnan yung chip eh!
Title: Re: Things to know about KonZert 502A amp!!!
Post by: shuttertrigger on Nov 08, 2005 at 01:52 PM
Sa yo galing yon no!


 ;D ;D ;D sobra lakas ng amp na yan... pang harabas talaga!  ;D
Title: Re: Things to know about KonZert 502A amp!!!
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 09, 2005 at 11:27 AM
Sa yo galing yon no!

Jojo, LM338 is a regulator if I am not mistaken! OK pala aux amp ni Konzert ano - di ko pinag aksayahan tingnan yung chip eh!

yep, 338 is a regulator, i just used it as a regulator for my digital amp project from 41Hz.com. yun 383 old chipamp din ng NS yun eh. Typo lang siguro.

nasilip ko na naman kahapon yan sa raon, most ng mga bumibili pag Konzert yun 502A kapag Sakura naman AV-5023 ang model. haslos pareho lang laman eh.  ;D ;D ;D Type na type ko yun volume pot, may click-click.  8)



Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: skylark on Nov 18, 2005 at 07:15 AM
ano bang latest na model ng konzert avr na may Sub out can u give naman ng info about it

ty
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Nov 18, 2005 at 02:56 PM
ano bang latest na model ng konzert avr na may Sub out can u give naman ng info about it

ty

I think wala pa still 502A, meron itong sub out, pretty sure satisfied ka sa power, pero dont expect too much prologic decoding here some pics:

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC00300.jpg)

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC00291.jpg)

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC00279.jpg)

Toridds ang power supply nito and 8 ang toshiba power trans

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC00293.jpg)

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC00289.jpg)

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC00298.jpg)

Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: skylark on Nov 30, 2005 at 09:27 AM
anong model po ba ng konzert ang merong tuner and how the reception of FM maingay nga po ba sya
meron bang 200 watts lang ng me tuner ...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Nov 30, 2005 at 07:39 PM
anong model po ba ng konzert ang merong tuner and how the reception of FM maingay nga po ba sya
meron bang 200 watts lang ng me tuner ...


I think I havent seen any Konzert na may tuner, ewan ko lang kung may bago na silang model with tuner, pero kung meron man I think analog pa ito. by the way yung 200watts na hinahanap mo RMS ba or Peak? wala kasi sa integrated amp nito, meron sa true RMS power sa professional amp pero mga Php. 25T above, I think yung Konzert 502A is only +/-30amps giving a true 80Wpc. yung 500Watts sa K-502A is only for power marketing... pero okey naman kasi kayang kaya niya ma handle ang configured array system kahit 15" subs... basta hindi baba sa 4ohms.. :) :) :)     
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: khelo275 on Dec 03, 2005 at 02:38 PM
ok nman ang konzert. kyang kya nyang pabayuhin ung 2 500 watts n speaker ko... ang problema lng khit nka sagad n s lower ung volume ung isang channel may sound pa rin. ::)

pti ung binili ng friend ko gnun din ang problema ??? 
pero tingin ko kailngan lang palitan ang potentiometer...

Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Dec 03, 2005 at 10:04 PM
ok nman ang konzert. kyang kya nyang pabayuhin ung 2 500 watts n speaker ko... ang problema lng khit nka sagad n s lower ung volume ung isang channel may sound pa rin. ::)

pti ung binili ng friend ko gnun din ang problema ??? 
pero tingin ko kailngan lang palitan ang potentiometer...



Parehas tayo brod ganun din yung Konzert 502A ko, tingin ko parang monoral yung pontentiometer nito, minsan nga pag papakinggan mo ng maige, parang hindi balance yung L/R niya. though its a good loud player kahit yung DIY na immitation BOSE 502 single 15" bass driver at 302 - 2 / 12" driver 8 ohms series connected bass bins ko kayang kaya, basta wag lang baba sa 4 ohms. I'l planning to add a karavision DVD player para tuloy ang saya sa christmas at new year... 
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: khelo275 on Dec 10, 2005 at 03:02 PM
oo hanns, mlakas tlaga yang amp n yan.   kya nga itong av502a ko ihinahanda ko n s pasko't bagong taon. khit wlang firecracker ok n din :D...
haping hapi ang konzert n speaker ko pag konzert amp ang nakakabit k kanya.. btw, 4 na KW880   8 inches ang  speaker ko, dlawang speaker s isang tower ::) :)  kalabugan to
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: skylark on Dec 10, 2005 at 07:09 PM
mag kano ba speaker na 4 na KW880   san nabili
ty  :)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: khelo275 on Dec 12, 2005 at 11:05 AM
P850 each,  nabili ko ito s akihabara caloocan, malapit s mercury drug...   then konzert tweeter P250, kya lng i forgot the model # ;D
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Dec 13, 2005 at 02:54 PM
Guys, try this speaker for your KonZert 502A Amp.

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC00046.jpg)

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC00047.jpg)

Model:  KSS-10
Features:
•   High output capability beyond most compact system.
•   Protective steel grill for woofer and midrange.
•   Pole mount socket for portable sound system use.
•   Integral high frequency driver overload protection.
•   Trapezoid array design.
•   Strong construction of acoustically inert, high density MDF.
•   High power output, low distortion sound quality.
•   Mounting hole for maximum flexibility when installing.
•   Logo can be rotated for vertical and horizontal application.

Specification:
Type: 3way speaker system.
Enclosure: Bass-reflex design.

Mounted drivers
Woofer: 10” Cone type
Midrange: 4” Cone type
Tweeter: 1” Horn type

Nominal Impedance: 8 Ohms.
Frequency response: 48hz – 20khz.
Sensitivity: 96dB/W at 1m
Max input power: 500 Watts
Dimensions: 317 (W) x 507 (H) x 297 (D) mm.
Net weight: 13.8 kg. 

And the price….Php.6,000/pair!!!
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: khelo275 on Dec 13, 2005 at 04:31 PM
wow! nice picture ;D  guapo mga speaker mo hanns :)
kya lng wla pa kming pambili, pede phiram nlng muna ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: skylark on Dec 14, 2005 at 09:57 AM
meron ba d2 na gumagamit ng konzert 502a and DTX tower speaker pls give some info oks ba ano speaker match sa 502a
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Dec 14, 2005 at 10:13 AM
meron ba d2 na gumagamit ng konzert 502a and DTX tower speaker pls give some info oks ba ano speaker match sa 502a

Brod,

My friend has that set up and heard it, yung combi of this DTX and 502A amp, kaso lack ka sa bass you have to add, additional subwoofer for HT, kung pure audio listening medyo yun nga kulang sa low freq.

Try mo ibang brand, like same sa KonZert. saan mo ba gagamitin? HT or audio lang?   
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: khelo275 on Dec 15, 2005 at 07:41 AM
skylark, bakit hindi k nalang mag asemble.  mas makukuha mo pa ang gusto mong tunog at lakas ng speaker n gusto mo  :D
im willing to help u  if u want ;)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: skylark on Dec 15, 2005 at 11:30 AM
im more on music not much sa movie kung mag aasemble ako mag kano kaya budget for 3 way na di na kailangan sub merrry x mas to ol marami salamat
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: skylark on Dec 15, 2005 at 12:49 PM
san store sa Raon na may lowest price my friend want to buy konzert may nabasa ako b4 na pangalan para sabihing nag reffer para maka discount Sir ed ba yon i forgot
thank's a lot merry x mas to all
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Dec 15, 2005 at 04:05 PM
san store sa Raon na may lowest price my friend want to buy konzert may nabasa ako b4 na pangalan para sabihing nag reffer para maka discount Sir ed ba yon i forgot
thank's a lot merry x mas to all

Try going to ACJ store below daichi showroom and look for Aries, tell him you were refered by someone who bought KSS-10 last Dec 2... ;)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: khelo275 on Dec 19, 2005 at 11:05 AM
im more on music not much sa movie kung mag aasemble ako mag kano kaya budget for 3 way na di na kailangan sub merrry x mas to ol marami salamat

kung mejo malakas ang gusto mo,
woofer - 10" , 350watts  (konzert)   mga 1200+  each
mid - 5" , 150 watts (konzert)  500+ each
tweeter - dome type, 100 watts  (konzert)  P250 each
crossover -  may nabibili ready made, kya lang hindi ko alam kung makano.  kung gagawa k namn mejo maraming kailangang  math dito , it  take u sometime to study.  magsunog muna ng konting kilay ;D ;D ;D
flywood - 3/4 ang kapal  P700+
wire - P20  per yard
masilya - 100+
paint - 100 +
all in all   medyo malaki rin ;D... make it  simple as posible,  kahit 2 way lang oks n yan ;)
8" woofer, dome tweeter  and a simple crossover    will work fine :)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: khelo275 on Dec 19, 2005 at 01:35 PM
(flywood)   sorry plywood pla   hehe ;D ;D ;D
tao lang po ;D
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Dec 19, 2005 at 03:16 PM
kung mejo malakas ang gusto mo,
woofer - 10" , 350watts  (konzert)   mga 1200+  each
mid - 5" , 150 watts (konzert)  500+ each
tweeter - dome type, 100 watts  (konzert)  P250 each
crossover -  may nabibili ready made, kya lang hindi ko alam kung makano.  kung gagawa k namn mejo maraming kailangang  math dito , it  take u sometime to study.  magsunog muna ng konting kilay ;D ;D ;D
flywood - 3/4 ang kapal  P700+
wire - P20  per yard
masilya - 100+
paint - 100 +
all in all   medyo malaki rin ;D... make it  simple as posible,  kahit 2 way lang oks n yan ;)
8" woofer, dome tweeter  and a simple crossover    will work fine :)


Sir aabot din ng 6T plus kasi pati labor, ka presyo na din ng KSS-10, complete aray with 10" woofer at 500W/ea. Php. 6T pair, ang panalo mo lang sa DIY, design mo yung buffles but problem is kung okey ang sound output... pero if you prefer that medyo okey din...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: skylark on Dec 19, 2005 at 05:21 PM
mga bro salamat sa tulong i plan to buy na lang kaya medyo busy rin ako this x mas  :) :)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: khelo275 on Dec 20, 2005 at 02:12 PM
mga bro salamat sa tulong i plan to buy na lang kaya medyo busy rin ako this x mas  :) :)

its better to buy na nga lang.  kc kung hindi ka handy mejo mahihirapan ka sa DIY ;)
Time,  tools,  effort and money,   ::) ;)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: squatter on Dec 21, 2005 at 03:11 PM
mga tol i've seen in sm appliance store a set of konzert HT around 10k and includes 5set of speakers, a konzert DVD and a Konzert AV300R ampli with remote and tuner......baka meron na kayo nitong set na ito at kung mura na ba ang price niya sa SM...thanks and waiting kung sino man ang gustong mag reply
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Dec 21, 2005 at 11:44 PM
mga tol i've seen in sm appliance store a set of konzert HT around 10k and includes 5set of speakers, a konzert DVD and a Konzert AV300R ampli with remote and tuner......baka meron na kayo nitong set na ito at kung mura na ba ang price niya sa SM...thanks and waiting kung sino man ang gustong mag reply

Bro, If I were you I'd rather spent the 10T for dedicated equipment instead of getting the set audio/video system. coz you cant upgrade the integrated systems. if you want the "Konzert" brand better go for the starter HT/A/V/Karaoke set up (eg. 502A amp, KSS10 speakers and generic DVD players) it will cost you a little over 10T but the performance is quite better, clearer and louder than those small konzert "cubes" looking speakers.

but thats just an advice still the final word is you... 
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: squatter on Dec 22, 2005 at 11:38 AM
Brod thanks for your comment and want to share also with you that the speakers are not that small because it consists of 2  3-way floor type speakers with 200 watts rating with built-in 6" sub-woofer and  2 surround speakers with 100 watts rating and 1  3-way center speaker of 200 watts rating. I just don't know then if the amplifier is already the latest from konzert because it has a tuner already and a remote and fully digital. I auditioned it already and from the discussions i saw in here...there's no problem with these 5.1 ampli because if you choose to have the sound in whatever channel and you'll here to that channel only.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Dec 22, 2005 at 03:53 PM
Brod thanks for your comment and want to share also with you that the speakers are not that small because it consists of 2  3-way floor type speakers with 200 watts rating with built-in 6" sub-woofer and  2 surround speakers with 100 watts rating and 1  3-way center speaker of 200 watts rating. I just don't know then if the amplifier is already the latest from konzert because it has a tuner already and a remote and fully digital. I auditioned it already and from the discussions i saw in here...there's no problem with these 5.1 ampli because if you choose to have the sound in whatever channel and you'll here to that channel only.

Well sir if thats the case I think its a good system for a starter setup and the brand "Konzert" has good reputation based on my expirience with it, by the way the 5 HT speakers of "Konzert" is at sale at Raon for Php.3,200 (2 tower, 2 surround and 1 center) for the sub you got to choose from a 12" (P6T) and 15"(P8,5T) all powered subs. But still you might want to audition some system like the "Daichi". then have a killer jewel cubes ala "BOSE" system now on display at SM megamall showroom and the Euro5 is coming out soon... 
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: squatter on Dec 22, 2005 at 05:11 PM
mga tol would I know if konzert AV300R is their latest amplifier????and just want to know also if I can connect my TV subwoofer to the amplifier.....waiting for your answer and help...thanks
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Dec 22, 2005 at 06:23 PM
mga tol would I know if konzert AV300R is their latest amplifier????and just want to know also if I can connect my TV subwoofer to the amplifier.....waiting for your answer and help...thanks


Check first your TV sub-out if its compatible with the AMP (eg. RCA etc...), but I doubt it will only produce a mono signal without lowpass filter. by the way, whats the brand of your TV? will you use the amp to power your sub? if this so I think its possible but without the xover switch, but you can easily use a active or passive xover network...

I havent check the latest model of KonZert AV amp yet, but I think the AV300R is already out for quite sometime...   
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: squatter on Dec 23, 2005 at 08:40 PM
thanks hans and by the way my TV brand is AIWA......the connector is not an RCA.....it is just like a big PS2 connector........i think the sub is a passive one because it has no power...it is directly connected to my TV. Is it still possible to connect it???? BTW, I bought konzert AV502.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Dec 23, 2005 at 10:45 PM
thanks hans and by the way my TV brand is AIWA......the connector is not an RCA.....it is just like a big PS2 connector........i think the sub is a passive one because it has no power...it is directly connected to my TV. Is it still possible to connect it???? BTW, I bought konzert AV502.

If thats the case, if you connect your TV sub out to your amp it will be in cascading circuit. also your goin to have problems on the input connectors because i think wala naman nabibili adaptor for that kind of connectors. Anyways it is like feeding the amp input signal with another amps speakers output. Your amp will be recieving an input signal producing variable voltage gains, my advise is, dont do this because several components of your amp is not designed to be feed like this....

Congrats on your purchase of a 502A...

AV502A has a subout producing a monoral signal without lowpass xover frequency, that means it is producing a signal as if in mono without cutoff frequency. so I can say it is not a subout but a pre-out on mono...

Anyways it has no problem naman, you can still connect the subout with the active subwoofer. Sa back plate amp nalang ang adjustment para sa lowpass frequency cutoff. by the way yung konzert active subwoofer has this features..

Anyways as an advice on what speakers to be used on your AV502a amp, try kss-10 its a professional speakers system and you can match it with a konzert active subwoofer, your choice of 12" Php.6T and 15" Php.8,5T. its great on loud and clear power, but as a precaution it is really very loud...

enjoy your audio gears...   
 
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: shuttertrigger on Dec 31, 2005 at 09:39 AM
sir hanns1976,

have you seen/heard the konzert sub? any feedback? thanks..and happy new year!  :D
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Dec 31, 2005 at 01:59 PM
sir hanns1976,

have you seen/heard the konzert sub? any feedback? thanks..and happy new year!  :D


Heard lately the KonZert 15" powered subs, though sounded like a professional bass bins (punchy!), it might over power your towers or bookshelfs... cant say the freq cut off trimmings though medyo hindi maganda yung environment (noisy) when I auditioned it. maybe theres an improvement depends on the acoutics on your audio application.

I dont recommend it for indoor application though, but its upto you, coz for me parang ang hirap ng positioning nito, sa free-air palang medyo boomy na lalo na siguro pag wall or corner loaded, plus the bulky construction medyo malalim ang depth ng buffles...

Happy new year too...   
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: shuttertrigger on Jan 01, 2006 at 07:44 AM
Heard lately the KonZert 15" powered subs, though sounded like a professional bass bins (punchy!), it might over power your towers or bookshelfs... cant say the freq cut off trimmings though medyo hindi maganda yung environment (noisy) when I auditioned it. maybe theres an improvement depends on the acoutics on your audio application.

I dont recommend it for indoor application though, but its upto you, coz for me parang ang hirap ng positioning nito, sa free-air palang medyo boomy na lalo na siguro pag wall or corner loaded, plus the bulky construction medyo malalim ang depth ng buffles...

Happy new year too...   

thanks for your feedback sir...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: rustyns on Jan 04, 2006 at 02:18 AM
Okay, to settle all your ? regarding Konzert AV500 here is my little review:

Bought at Raon last Feb 2004, for P4,500

Specs:
100wrms x 2 front (F)
050wrms x 1 center (C)
050wrms x2 rear (R)
basic DSP features: Hall, Room, Concert, etc.
NO BUILT-IN DECODER! NO COAX/OPTICAL IN/OUT!
with inputs for F, C and R from any DVD player's built-in decoder output
20 preset fm stations
digital INDIVIDUAL volume controls for F, C and R
digital bass/trebel tone controls for front only
digital balance l/r control
analog mic vol/tone/echo control
mic input x 2
full-function remote control

SET-UP AND PERFORMANCE:
I used assembled front speakers with 12" Crown woofer, 5.5 Konzert mid and metal dome Konzert tweeter.  No crossover, I just used capacitors for mid and tweeter.  Previously I tried using a passive crossover but poor sound, capacitors are better!  For the center and rear, I used non-branded "Jordan" speaker set, with 80watts and 89db sensitvity ratings.  I dont have subwoofer.  My DVD is Xtreme player, the "pioneer-look-a-like" model.  My TV is a surplus 32-inch Sony wide screen with double tuner.  So how does it sounds?  GOOD to a little bit of very good for movies.  FAIR to good for music.  Overall, the sound is smooth.

COMMENTS:
1.  The main volume WILL NOT CONTROL the C and R channels!  So everytime you adjust the overall volume, you have to adjust each channel INDIVIDUALLY.  This is very annoying.  Another thing, since the volume and tone controls are digital, the settings will return to default everytime you turn off and on the unit.  Very inconvenient because you have to set-up everything again everytime you turn-on the receiver.
2.  The FM section is not good, poor reception and noisy.
3.  The Built-in cooling fan of the receiver is quite noisy, it is audible in my listening position during night time use.
4.  Very loud "thud" sound when you turn-off the receiver.

MY VERDICT:
I sold it to my cousin last week for P2,000.

MY PRESENT SET-UP:
I just bought a Yamaha RXV-550, its an awesome 6.1 receiver at 90wrms into 8ohms x 6!  Got it from Ambassador-Greenhills at P19,800.  I still use the same speaker set-up above.  My next project: Soundquest active subwoofer, 150wrms at P8,000 pesos hopefully I can buy before xmas.

Ü

Hi,

Just bought a Konzert AV600R
Specs the same as AV500 above except for

150wrms x 2 front (F)
100wrms x 1 center (C)
100wrms x 2 rear (R)

-When the main volume is changed, the Center, Rear and Sub Out volume also changes.   
-The FM section has good reception - clear and strong. (This might just be because of my location)
-The Built-in cooling fan of the receiver is quiet
-No thump when turning the receiver on or off
-When in stereo,3 or 5 channel mode, sub out has signal even when input is set to fm/am/aux (to me this is a good thing). Also, sub out is unfiltered.
-The settings return to default (e.g. all volume settings return to -50db) everytime you turn the unit off and on. Some settings are remembered - channel mode, source selected, selected radio station.

I liked the Sakura 387a but the difference between front and the other channels is too big AND its looks won't match my other gear  :)  I was able to audition the av300r and av600r side-by-side at the store. I didn't like the av300r - maybe it was just not powerful enough for the 450 watt konzert speakers the salesman plugged in.

Very nice for HT. Not as nice as my brother's TOTL Yamaha but good enough for me (for now?)  Ok for stereo audio, even better when using 3 or 5 channels - it's difficult to describe but, for audio, I still like my pier sourced vintage setup more. I haven't checked suitability for karaoke and party level music.

Currently, the only thing I don't like about it is the inability to remember settings. Sana merong facility for loading/saving all user settings  ;D. A more comprehensive user's manual would also be appreciated. Will post further comments after I've used it for some time.

****EDIT
-Mas maganda rin pala kung almost all functions can be accessed even without the remote. With this receiver, kailangan ng remote for setting loudness, dsp mode, channel mode and selecting preset radio stations
-Nasubukan ko na ito sa karaoke, ok na ok!
****

sorry sa rush pics
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c286/rustyns/konzertavr600r/konz.jpg)
From left to right:
Power, Mic1, Mic2, Mic1 volume, Mic2 volume
Subwoofer volume (+/-), Center volume, Surround Left volume, Surround Right volume
Input selector, "Auto" - button for automatically scanning for fm stations and saving to presets
Mem button for manually setting a preset
Tun-/Tun+ manually scan for stations
Bass, Treble, Balance
Main Volume, Mic tone, Mic echo, Mic delay
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c286/rustyns/konzertavr600r/DSCF0010.jpg)
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c286/rustyns/konzertavr600r/DSCF0011.jpg)
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c286/rustyns/konzertavr600r/DSCF0012.jpg)
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c286/rustyns/konzertavr600r/ndscF0004.jpg)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: dalusapi on Jan 04, 2006 at 03:16 PM
mga tol' pwede ba nyo me matulungan.. kasi nakabili me ng amplifier jan sa raon av-502 karaoke amplifier, after 3 months nasira na yung transformer. power supply. palaging sabog yung glass fuse. may alam ba kayo na magaling gumawa o magrewind nun... or saan kaya me makabili ng repalcement nun... nawala kasi yung resibo kay pinabuksan ko na sa electrician sa lugar namin..
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: rustyns on Jan 07, 2006 at 12:08 AM
Took a peek at the insides of my konzert av600r (didn't open the casing, of course  :))

-It has one toroid( 180va)

-The front channels each have a Toshiba 2sc1941/2sc5198 pair. I tried to find info on these in the net and found that it has a recommended wattage of 70 and maximum wattage of 100.

-Also attached to the approx 3x4x12 inch heat sink are 3 of what seems to be chipamp ic's. I am unable to read the markings of the ic's. I assume these are for the surround and center channels. BTW, the surround and center channels do not sound thin, not like the surround and center channels of the 60x60x35x35x35 Promac receiver I used to have.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: rustyns on Jan 07, 2006 at 10:43 AM
sir hanns1976,

have you seen/heard the konzert sub? any feedback? thanks..and happy new year!  :D


Sir,

Na-try ko sa raon yung 8, 10 and 15 inch konzert subs. Yung 12 inch, out of stock. Naubos nung Christmas season. Yung 15 inch sub, masyadong malaki for my house and mahal for my wallet.:) For me, masyadong mahina ang 8 and 10 inch subs nila. Hindi naman masyadong maingay dun sa store na yon. Mas maganda pa ang output ng 10 inch DIY passive sub ko powered by a pioneer surplus amp (80watts) - dito muna ako until I can afford to upgrade.

yung 8 inches around 3k, 10 inches 4.5k, 12 inches 6k, 15 inches 9k - before tawad

Mag-o-audition sana ako ng dtx subs sa Daichi showroom(2nd floor nung bldg sa corner ng raon and quezon blvd) kaso under renovation pala sila. You can only look at some of their display units.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: shuttertrigger on Jan 07, 2006 at 10:58 AM
Sir,

Na-try ko sa raon yung 8, 10 and 15 inch konzert subs. Yung 12 inch, out of stock. Naubos nung Christmas season. Yung 15 inch sub, masyadong malaki for my house and mahal for my wallet.:) For me, masyadong mahina ang 8 and 10 inch subs nila. Hindi naman masyadong maingay dun sa store na yon. Mas maganda pa ang output ng 10 inch DIY passive sub ko powered by a pioneer surplus amp (80watts) - dito muna ako until I can afford to upgrade.

yung 8 inches around 3k, 10 inches 4.5k, 12 inches 6k, 15 inches 9k - before tawad

Mag-o-audition sana ako ng dtx subs sa Daichi showroom(2nd floor nung bldg sa corner ng raon and quezon blvd) kaso under renovation pala sila. You can only look at some of their display units.

thanks sir  ;)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: pedro on Jan 20, 2006 at 01:01 AM
can u help me choose a better speaker for my newly bought konzert av-302???  gusto ko kasi may stereo sound at may vocals para sa videoke ko. thanks ;D
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Jan 20, 2006 at 11:05 AM
can u help me choose a better speaker for my newly bought konzert av-302???  gusto ko kasi may stereo sound at may vocals para sa videoke ko. thanks ;D

Go for the KonZert tower setup price at 3,5T at Raon. compose of 2 towers, 1 center, 2 surrounds. good buy ito dahil match na match sa AV-302 mo, plus you can add a powered subwoofer at your choice of 12" at 250Watts or 15" at 400Watts.

And take note: tignan mo ang back plate ng KonZert power sub (eg.250w or 400w), yung power consumption ang naka lagay at hindi yung power output ng sub. this is a sign of a transparent product.  ;)   
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: pedro on Jan 20, 2006 at 08:10 PM
thanks sa suggestion mo sir hans :).. may isa pa po akong tanong... ok lang ba kung mag assemble ako ng speaker that would be in a 3 way type? may nag suggest sa akin .. 1 6inch instrumental 100 watts, 1 6inch subwoofer max 300 watts and  tweeter 100 watts? mas maganda daw kasi kung instrumental pang videoke rather than midrange..  ??? ano po sa tingin nyo?
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Jan 20, 2006 at 09:51 PM
thanks sa suggestion mo sir hans :).. may isa pa po akong tanong... ok lang ba kung mag assemble ako ng speaker that would be in a 3 way type? may nag suggest sa akin .. 1 6inch instrumental 100 watts, 1 6inch subwoofer max 300 watts and  tweeter 100 watts? mas maganda daw kasi kung instrumental pang videoke rather than midrange..  ??? ano po sa tingin nyo?


full range are great on vocals specialy the insturmental ones, but you must take note of the money you will spent on materials and assembly plus timbre matching not even mentioning the value of resistance. so becareful on DIY coz sometimes you might put up a speakers at 2 ohms at unstable power so you might take note on that plus the risk of feeding it to your receiver.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: pedro on Jan 22, 2006 at 01:12 AM
tnx again sir.. at least now i know the risk of diy. i didn't think of the resistance that might occur and would melt down my amp. i'll try to find konzert tower that u suggested. btw im from davao kc. quite far from raon hehe..   more power!!! ;D
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Jan 22, 2006 at 01:36 PM
you might also want to consider the KSS-10, 500W at 96db priced at 6T.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: curious me on Jan 26, 2006 at 11:32 AM
hi there guys.
we own a videoke which we use at home since i don't want my husband having it rented out though we're planning to buy another set for full rental purposes.
The amp is Konzert professional edition and the speakers are also Konzert (400 watts) which we bought separately. It sounds good and everyone who experiences the sound always asks for it but we never tell them the model of the amp.
We're planning to go to Raon next month to buy another videoke set but like the first time we did, we'll choose the componets.
Truth is, we assembled our first videoke. We asked someone to build the case and we did the buttons and everything else.
Now, we want to opt for the easier one which is but he complete set but we chose the components. Do they have Konzert amps i Raon, ung 1000 watts?
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: elvenears on Jan 26, 2006 at 12:27 PM
hi there guys.
we own a videoke which we use at home since i don't want my husband having it rented out though we're planning to buy another set for full rental purposes.
The amp is Konzert professional edition and the speakers are also Konzert (400 watts) which we bought separately. It sounds good and everyone who experiences the sound always asks for it but we never tell them the model of the amp.
We're planning to go to Raon next month to buy another videoke set but like the first time we did, we'll choose the componets.
Truth is, we assembled our first videoke. We asked someone to build the case and we did the buttons and everything else.
Now, we want to opt for the easier one which is but he complete set but we chose the components. Do they have Konzert amps i Raon, ung 1000 watts?

nung last ako nagpunta nang raon november last year wala pang konzert na 1000 watts mas maganda siguro sa vidioke yung 502 or 302 kasi yun ang gamit namin sa videoke machine namin na ginagamit sa inuman ;D.........matibay to!!!!umulan bumagyo nasa rooftop ng bahay ng father-n-aw ko to in pampanga may bubong naman pero siempre napapatakan to.....kahit nas loob cya ng kahoy nababasa pa din ...pero its been 2 years or 1 year na ata tumatakbo pa din
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Jan 26, 2006 at 07:06 PM
To all those interested...

For added studio quality on your vocals for videoke (personal use), besides from a mic mixer try adding a digitech studio200 digital vocal processor at 12T or for tight budget try looking for a 2nd yamaha DSP processor last time I checked at Pier under 5T. and try to route it with the EQ of a KonZert 502A.

This is a certified guarantee true quality performance on your voice, you can compare this to a live recording. parang kumakanta ka sa harap ng stage na magandang maganda ang boses mo and you might not want to put down the mic when you hear your voice with this gear. (baka nga yung iba maging ka-boses pa si Tom Jones or Celine Dion hehehe!  ;D)

just a tip  ;)   
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: curious me on Jan 30, 2006 at 11:01 AM
Thanks for the advice. How about yung bagong labas ngayon na DVD platinum videoke player, any comments on this one? saka ung bagong Konzert amp na AK90?

Magkano na po ba ngayon ang 1 set ng videoke sa raon and the specs pleas? I mean, ano-anong model ung mga components nya kc sa dagupan ung 1 set is 32K without the TV, 300 watts ang speaker, konzert k502 or ak90 ang amp and platinum dvd ung player.  While sa Tarlac 28k ung small box and 30k ung bigger box.

 Please update me pr naman alam ko if it is worth it going to raon though i know mas maraming options pag doon us namili.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: PICK-UP on Jan 30, 2006 at 04:11 PM
can i also ask 4 a sugestion? i been using konzert av502a its good and even outdoor maasahan,
im planning to upgrade it and has anyone heard the about the brand audioking amp and speaker, take note there giving 2yrs warranty on their tweeters, any coments???????
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: khelo275 on Feb 16, 2006 at 02:09 PM
Hi, 

i need some help, 
my konzert av502a  always destroy the left channel of the potentiometer,  i dont know why :'(...
i  replace the pot twice.  pero ganun pa rin  parating nasisira ang left channel... sa unang gamit ok  but after few days,   babalik n naman ang sira...  ano kaya ang problema, bkit palaging left channel lang ang nasisira??? ::)    somebody help me to diagnose my amp...

mike
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Feb 16, 2006 at 03:40 PM
Hi, 

i need some help, 
my konzert av502a  always destroy the left channel of the potentiometer,  i dont know why :'(...
i  replace the pot twice.  pero ganun pa rin  parating nasisira ang left channel... sa unang gamit ok  but after few days,   babalik n naman ang sira...  ano kaya ang problema, bkit palaging left channel lang ang nasisira??? ::)    somebody help me to diagnose my amp...

mike

Hey Mike,

Whats "left channel potentiometer"? yung balance pot ba yung sinasabi mo? kasi wala naman dedicated potentiometer for left/right channels eh, diba meron siya hi/mid/low pot tapos bal saka volume pot na? in your case if that occurs pati ba yung right channel meron epekto? by the way meron service ang konzert sa raon, try mo dun sa pinag bilihan mo may warranty card yan diba?   
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: khelo275 on Feb 16, 2006 at 05:23 PM
tanx hanns,

stereo pot,  left/right   dual gang... only the left channel  ung right channel ok lng lng nman... dlawang volume pot na ang pinalit ko pero ganun pa rin.  mawawala ang distortion,   pero after 3 days   bbalik n nmn ang sakit ..

ang layo kc  nsa bataan ang amp ko eh.  isa pa wla nang warranty ang amp ko  almost 2 years ko na rin tong ginagamit..
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Feb 16, 2006 at 05:34 PM
tanx hanns,

stereo pot,  left/right   dual gang... only the left channel  ung right channel ok lng lng nman... dlawang volume pot na ang pinalit ko pero ganun pa rin.  mawawala ang distortion,   pero after 3 days   bbalik n nmn ang sakit ..

ang layo kc  nsa bataan ang amp ko eh.  isa pa wla nang warranty ang amp ko  almost 2 years ko na rin tong ginagamit..


naku yari baka hindi na yung potentiometer ang sira, baka malamang may short or meron isang pyesa dyan ang sira. kailangan ma trace. pero meron nabibili diagrm ng 502a, baka meron dyan sa electronic shop sa inyo. dito kasi sa raon meron...     
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: khelo275 on Feb 16, 2006 at 06:59 PM
thanks sa advise hanns.   

i suspect the preamp stage,  pero di ko rin sure... i'll try to check it again ::)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: Brian_mico on Mar 24, 2006 at 02:56 PM


mga sir ask ko lang.. regarding on model AV502 and AV600.. may 5.1 output ba ang mga 'to.... nag start pa lang kasi ako mag set-up ng HT.  I'm planning na mag start muna sa generics brand..  need your advise   

Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Mar 24, 2006 at 05:02 PM

mga sir ask ko lang.. regarding on model AV502 and AV600.. may 5.1 output ba ang mga 'to.... nag start pa lang kasi ako mag set-up ng HT.  I'm planning na mag start muna sa generics brand..  need your advise   



Brod, yung konzert AV502a walang 5.1 input nor 5.1 pre-output. pero 5/ch amp na siya (L/C/R/SL/SR). wala din siyang capabilities mauupgrade to dolby digital. hindi rin patas ang 5ch power output niya L/R-500w daw?, Center-25w, Surr-25W din. meron siyang subout.

try considering the KonZert 600r meron siyang 5.1 input for DVD external decoder. or better yet for starters I recomend you buy from the B&S section dami dun yung iba bago at mababa pa ang presyo.
   
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: Brian_mico on Mar 24, 2006 at 05:24 PM
Brod, yung konzert AV502a walang 5.1 input nor 5.1 pre-output. pero 5/ch amp na siya (L/C/R/SL/SR). wala din siyang capabilities mauupgrade to dolby digital. hindi rin patas ang 5ch power output niya L/R-500w daw?, Center-25w, Surr-25W din. meron siyang subout.

try considering the KonZert 600r meron siyang 5.1 input for DVD external decoder. or better yet for starters I recomend you buy from the B&S section dami dun yung iba bago at mababa pa ang presyo.
   

sir hans, thanks sa advise.. cenya wala pa kong masyadong alam sa mga audio term... so yung bang konzert600r may 5.1 output ?    san ba yung B&S section? 

Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Mar 24, 2006 at 05:46 PM
sir hans, thanks sa advise.. cenya wala pa kong masyadong alam sa mga audio term... so yung bang konzert600r may 5.1 output ?    san ba yung B&S section? 



wla siyang 5.1 out so you cannot connect a power amp. may mga nag bebenta ng mga AVR's sa buy and sell dito. Yamaha, HK, Denon your choice, magkano ba budget mo? baka maka hanap ako ng nag bebenta ng murang Yamaha, good AVR for starters to...   
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: Brian_mico on Mar 24, 2006 at 06:29 PM
wla siyang 5.1 out so you cannot connect a power amp. may mga nag bebenta ng mga AVR's sa buy and sell dito. Yamaha, HK, Denon your choice, magkano ba budget mo? baka maka hanap ako ng nag bebenta ng murang Yamaha, good AVR for starters to...   

have sent PM to you..  maliit lang kasi budget ko..
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: Brian_mico on Mar 31, 2006 at 01:53 PM

mga sir,  nakabili na ako ng AV600r.. but  i have a problem.. why is it pag na-set sa 5.1 yung DVD player ko walang boses na lumalabas .. pag naka-set naman sa Video Sorround (VSS)  yung boses lumalabas sa lahat ng spkrs. sa sub,  front,  rear & center  :'(   

   
pls advise..
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: rustyns on Mar 31, 2006 at 03:39 PM
mga sir,  nakabili na ako ng AV600r.. but  i have a problem.. why is it pag na-set sa 5.1 yung DVD player ko walang boses na lumalabas .. pag naka-set naman sa Video Sorround (VSS)  yung boses lumalabas sa lahat ng spkrs. sa sub,  front,  rear & center  :'(   

   
pls advise..


Hmmm, this sounds like it's a problem with either the dvd settings or with the dvd your playing. Ano brand/model ng dvd player mo?

Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: Brian_mico on Mar 31, 2006 at 03:46 PM
Hmmm, this sounds like it's a problem with either the dvd settings or with the dvd your playing. Ano brand/model ng dvd player mo?



hmmm I don't think sa DVD disc since i'm using original DVD (borrowed from my cousin) ..  siguro sa dvd player.. I'm using Lexing player...  ano ba dapat ang settings ?

thanks.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: rustyns on Mar 31, 2006 at 04:20 PM
I don't know if the Lexing players have the same menu settings as promac and orange. Maybe someone with a Lexing dvdplayer can chime in. 

I would start by setting /audio setup/prologic to "off" and /speakers/downmix to "5.1"

BTW, magkano bili mo sa AV600R mo? And ano gamit mong speakers?
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: juneaki on Apr 01, 2006 at 04:40 PM
mga sir,  nakabili na ako ng AV600r.. but  i have a problem.. why is it pag na-set sa 5.1 yung DVD player ko walang boses na lumalabas .. pag naka-set naman sa Video Sorround (VSS)  yung boses lumalabas sa lahat ng spkrs. sa sub,  front,  rear & center  :'(   

   
pls advise..


Ikaw kasi di mo kinagat yung offer ko eh.  ;D Joke only! Bro, kung naka set yung player sa 5.1, dapat yung AVR mo ay naka-set din na tumanggap ng 5.1 input. Paki-check mo lang yung input setting ng AVR mo. Kung tama naman, aba oras na para isoli mo habang under warranty pa. Just a penny of advise. ;)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Apr 01, 2006 at 05:32 PM
I don't know if the Lexing players have the same menu settings as promac and orange. Maybe someone with a Lexing dvdplayer can chime in. 

I would start by setting /audio setup/prologic to "off" and /speakers/downmix to "5.1"

BTW, magkano bili mo sa AV600R mo? And ano gamit mong speakers?

Tol the AVR600r is an analog amp with a 5ch input. so I think kaya hindi lumalabas na 5.1 yung channels sa speakers is because sa setting ng DVD audio out, check mo sa setting ng DVD player mo. im not familiar with lexing, pero kung parehas ng NexrBase 658 yan, yung setting nasa audio setup. baka naka off yung 5.1 output mo. have you tried all the channels sa AVR (per 5.1 rca input)?. kasi dapat mag try ka ng analog signal lets say yung left channel ng DVD player mo, inconnect mo isa-isa sa 5channels input ng AVR dapat per channel speaker may lalabas na tunog...     
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: vision_of_love on Apr 01, 2006 at 07:16 PM
hindi true 5.1 ang lexing,naka series lang..
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: rustyns on Apr 01, 2006 at 07:39 PM
Brian_mico,

Here is a list of what you need to check:
-all 5 speakers are correctly connected to the av600r
-subout is connected to your subwoofer
-av600r input selector is set to AC-3
-3 pairs of RCA cables are correctly connected from lexing dvd to av600r (L/R,Surround L/R, Center/Sub)
-in lexing, set speakers to 5.1 and turn prologic off if it has an option for that (di ako sure masyado dito dahil di pa ko nakakakita ng menu settings ng lexing)

HTH
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: rustyns on Apr 01, 2006 at 07:45 PM
hindi true 5.1 ang lexing,naka series lang..

Is this true for all models ng Lexing? ???

Di naman siguro...

hmmm... are we talking of lexing dvd players? Meron bang Lexing amps and receivers?
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: Brian_mico on Apr 04, 2006 at 08:54 AM
BTW, magkano bili mo sa AV600R mo? And ano gamit mong speakers?

I got it for 4.2K  @  Raon(pero may nakita ako sa ibang store 3.8K lang the following day, too bad nakabili na ako :'(

Konzert speaker lang ang gamit ko yung isang set na, 2 towers,  sorround and center (black yung kulay) .. and US audio Sub. 

Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: Brian_mico on Apr 04, 2006 at 09:03 AM
Tol the AVR600r is an analog amp with a 5ch input. so I think kaya hindi lumalabas na 5.1 yung channels sa speakers is because sa setting ng DVD audio out, check mo sa setting ng DVD player mo. im not familiar with lexing, pero kung parehas ng NexrBase 658 yan, yung setting nasa audio setup. baka naka off yung 5.1 output mo. have you tried all the channels sa AVR (per 5.1 rca input)?. kasi dapat mag try ka ng analog signal lets say yung left channel ng DVD player mo, inconnect mo isa-isa sa 5channels input ng AVR dapat per channel speaker may lalabas na tunog...     

I followed this instruction still got same results.. wala pa rin lumalabas na boses puro background music and effects lang pag naka set sa 5.1..

eto yung Menu ng player ko :

Audio OUT

XXX/ PCM ON   
XXX/PCM OFF
XXX/RAW

XXX- nakalimutan ko kung ano yung exact value

SPEAKER SETUP
DOWNMIX     - L/R
                       STEREO
                       VSS
                       5.1 

Center Delay    - 0MS to 6MS
Rear Delay       - 0MS to 6MS


 
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: rustyns on Apr 04, 2006 at 10:42 AM
I followed this instruction still got same results.. wala pa rin lumalabas na boses puro background music and effects lang pag naka set sa 5.1..

eto yung Menu ng player ko :

Audio OUT

XXX/ PCM ON   
XXX/PCM OFF
XXX/RAW

XXX- nakalimutan ko kung ano yung exact value

SPEAKER SETUP
DOWNMIX     - L/R
                       STEREO
                       VSS
                       5.1 

Center Delay    - 0MS to 6MS
Rear Delay       - 0MS to 6MS
 

I have an orange dvdplayer connected to an av600r. Speakers are a mix of vintage speakers. Acting as a sub is a vintage amp plus a passive subwoofer

My orange dvd also has those two settings. They are set at RAW and 5.1.  This request might seem useless but could you list down all the menu settings of your dvdplayer?

In case you haven't tried with other dvd's, it wouldn't hurt to try some others - just to rule out the possibility that this is a compatibility issue
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: juneaki on Apr 07, 2006 at 08:17 AM
I followed this instruction still got same results.. wala pa rin lumalabas na boses puro background music and effects lang pag naka set sa 5.1..

eto yung Menu ng player ko :

Audio OUT

XXX/ PCM ON   
XXX/PCM OFF
XXX/RAW

XXX- nakalimutan ko kung ano yung exact value

SPEAKER SETUP
DOWNMIX     - L/R
                       STEREO
                       VSS
                       5.1 

Center Delay    - 0MS to 6MS
Rear Delay       - 0MS to 6MS


 

Dapat yung audio out ng player mo ay naka-set sa analog (i-off mo yung PCM). Pag kasi naka-on yung digital out (PCM) ay hindi ka makapupunta sa speaker set-up. Once na set mo na sa analog yung audio out ng player, punta ka naman sa speaker set up and choose 5.1 out. Pag ganon pa rin, hiram ka ng ibang player and do the same and if it works fine, then yung player mo ang may problema but if the same problem manifests, then yung AVR ang problema.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: Brian_mico on Apr 11, 2006 at 01:55 PM
Dapat yung audio out ng player mo ay naka-set sa analog (i-off mo yung PCM). Pag kasi naka-on yung digital out (PCM) ay hindi ka makapupunta sa speaker set-up. Once na set mo na sa analog yung audio out ng player, punta ka naman sa speaker set up and choose 5.1 out. Pag ganon pa rin, hiram ka ng ibang player and do the same and if it works fine, then yung player mo ang may problema but if the same problem manifests, then yung AVR ang problema.

sir, i've finally concluded that my lexing player is the culprit of my problem,  have tried  pioneer and konzert dvd player and  these  2 goes well ..  hayyyy finally  have solved  my issue  :) :) :)

thanks to all you guys.... reading  forum @pinoy DVD is really worhtwhile... it seems like mukhang malapit na rin akong magka-sars  ;D ;D ;D

   
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Apr 11, 2006 at 02:35 PM
sir, i've finally concluded that my lexing player is the culprit of my problem,  have tried  pioneer and konzert dvd player and  these  2 goes well ..  hayyyy finally  have solved  my issue  :) :) :)

thanks to all you guys.... reading  forum @pinoy DVD is really worhtwhile... it seems like mukhang malapit na rin akong magka-sars  ;D ;D ;D

   

Finally! so oks ba ang konzert 600r? meron kana bang subwoofer? diba Dolby Digital na dahil sa DVD player mo? post ka naman ng pictures ng setup mo dude...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: Brian_mico on Apr 11, 2006 at 05:10 PM
Finally! so oks ba ang konzert 600r?

yup finally.... for a newbie like me, well I'm very satisfied with my AV600r (for now  ;D)

meron kana bang subwoofer? diba Dolby Digital na dahil sa DVD player mo?

sa ngayon wala pa akong sariling active sub.. meron akong nahiram na US audio.., mukhang ok naman..
i have plans din na naman na bumili..  

post ka naman ng pictures ng setup mo dude...

yup, try ko mag post ng pics one of this day..
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: vision_of_love on Apr 11, 2006 at 05:35 PM
sabi ko sayo e.lexing dvd players do not have true 5.1.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: Brian_mico on Apr 11, 2006 at 05:42 PM
sabi ko sayo e.lexing dvd players do not have true 5.1.

yes,  I agree with you...  so baka sa audio ko na lang siya gagamitin

 
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: rustyns on Apr 11, 2006 at 09:42 PM
Brian_mico,

Mukhang tayong dalawa lang ang gumagamit ng AV600R.  Bago mo binili yang receiver mo, ano ang mga iba mo pang pinagpilian?

Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: Brian_mico on Apr 12, 2006 at 10:17 AM
Brian_mico,

Mukhang tayong dalawa pa lang ang gumagamit ng AV600R.  Bago mo binili yang receiver mo, ano ang mga iba mo pang pinagpilian?



rustyns,

marami rin eh.. kaya lang puro mga generics din (e.g.  magnum; sakura, etc.)  then nabasa ko yung thread na 'to.. 
to  be honest with you  na convince ako dun sa post mo regarding  sa feedback and specs na nai-post mo and also nagtanong din ako kay  hanns1976   
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: rustyns on Apr 12, 2006 at 10:48 AM
rustyns,

marami rin eh.. kaya lang puro mga generics din (e.g.  magnum; sakura, etc.)  then nabasa ko yung thread na 'to.. 
to  be honest with you  na convince ako dun sa post mo regarding  sa feedback and specs na nai-post mo and also nagtanong din ako kay  hanns1976   

I'm glad the info was useful! :)  Enjoy
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: ndy on Apr 12, 2006 at 11:03 AM
sir hans1976,

may mga active speaker ba ang konzert? if ever baka may pic at pa post na din price! napansin ko kasi ikaw lang nag post dito mga pics sa thread na to. salamat.

ndy
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Apr 12, 2006 at 11:07 AM
bro Brian_mico,

pag nagkaroon ka na nang sub you will hear a different perspective pag dating sa audio and HT...  ;)

ako my audio and HT expirience has put me into another level and has never been the same again, nung sinubukan ko mag local na speakers and subwoofer. "somehow" kaya pala ng mura at local na speakers yung hinahabol habol natin sa mga branded ones but without putting a hole in your pocket...

pag bibili ka ng subwoofer dito kana bumili sa B&S section makaka jackpot ka dyan, dyan ako nakakuha ng subwoofer (DTX 4.15) with a 15" sub at a price tag of 4,9k only, kung bibilihin mo ito ngayon nasa 11k sa Raon...

malapit ka na rin ma SARS (joke) hehehe!  
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Apr 12, 2006 at 11:10 AM
sir hans1976,

may mga active speaker ba ang konzert? if ever baka may pic at pa post na din price! napansin ko kasi ikaw lang nag post dito mga pics sa thread na to. salamat.

ndy

ill try to search one, nasa 3 to 3.5ft tall siya and mostly silver ang kulay, nasa 3,5k siya ngayon isang set (2towers, 1 center, 2 surrounds)...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: ndy on Apr 12, 2006 at 11:16 AM
sir hans1976,

tnx for the fast reply. wait ko post mo ng mga pics!

ndy
Title: Re: Things to know about KonZert 502A amp!!!
Post by: patchoy on Apr 29, 2006 at 11:48 PM
good evening po,
 
is there a thread or a website dedicated to videoke machine business and technical matters about the machine.
i am interested in this business.

salamat po,
joval
Title: Re: Things to know about KonZert 502A amp!!!
Post by: --Streetlegal-- on May 01, 2006 at 05:10 PM
i suggest this amplifier for those individuals na gusto ng pure audio, very reliable and affordable ang amp na to.

i already hooked up my 4pcs 3-way DIY speakers,250w/speaker 12", pero 9 o'clock pa lang, wow! you can feel the bass

sometimes gamit ko sya a HT, pero d ganun kalinaw, but ok na since yayanig ang mundo mo dito, hehehehe :-)

tryo to audition and you'll see what im saying, dami sa raon nito
Title: Re: Things to know about KonZert 502A amp!!!
Post by: hattori_hanzo on May 01, 2006 at 06:33 PM
ill try to DIY a speaker matagal na kasi hindi nagagamit yung 502a ko. nung dumating kasi tong yamaha AVR last Jan 06, ma-aga na retire yung KonZert (bought it Nov 05).

I have the drivers box nalang ang kulang. pag nabuo ko to pang harabas na naman to...  ;D yahoo!   
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: jeppoy on May 11, 2006 at 11:20 AM
Mga Bro!

Ano ba best videoke setup na medyo mura? I'm planning to setup a videoke/pa/sound in one system sa aking function room. K ba yung 502A or 600R? Mga magkano kaya sila ngayon? Ano kaya maganda speaker para i mount sa mga corners? Ano pa pwede idagdag sa receiver and karavision na videoke para mas gumanda tunog? Salamat po.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on May 11, 2006 at 10:46 PM
Mga Bro!

Ano ba best videoke setup na medyo mura? I'm planning to setup a videoke/pa/sound in one system sa aking function room. K ba yung 502A or 600R? Mga magkano kaya sila ngayon? Ano kaya maganda speaker para i mount sa mga corners? Ano pa pwede idagdag sa receiver and karavision na videoke para mas gumanda tunog? Salamat po.

videoke/PA/sound:

KonZert 502a 500wpc - 3,5k
Digitech studio 100 - 10k
shure sm58 with cables - 6k wireless 10-15k
Konzert KSS10 - 6k
cables - 1k

yung digitech is the heart of the processing, yun ang nagpapaganda ng tunog sa vocals...   
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: jeppoy on May 11, 2006 at 10:50 PM
thanks sir hattori_hanzo! wala na ba mas mura pa dyan sa digitech studio? any alternative? hehehe baka kulangin budget eh. Tnx po ulit!
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on May 11, 2006 at 11:01 PM
thanks sir hattori_hanzo! wala na ba mas mura pa dyan sa digitech studio? any alternative? hehehe baka kulangin budget eh. Tnx po ulit!

you can always gor for a 2nd DSP processor like this:

Yamaha DSP 2000 it has great DSP processing specially hall3, good for vocal ambient. I got it for only 5k.
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/18122005001.jpg)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: jeppoy on May 12, 2006 at 09:18 AM
pre saan ako makakakuha nito yamaha dsp 2000?
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: av_phile1 on May 12, 2006 at 12:01 PM
Saw one at the Pier.  Plenty of Jap surplus audio gears there. 
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: Signal2Noise on May 16, 2006 at 11:43 AM
Saw one at the Pier.  Plenty of Jap surplus audio gears there. 

Sir, Hindi ba re-conditioned na iyong mga nasa pier,  secondly, the casing is branded but the internal components might be something from Raon?  Kase minsan nakita ko iyong ibang TV sets na ayaw umandar, tinitira na rin ng mga technicians nila doon sa site at may dalang spare parts to install.

I 've heard the Konzert AVR and it was good but I think Sakura AVR is better and more neutral.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on May 16, 2006 at 04:55 PM
Sir, Hindi ba re-conditioned na iyong mga nasa pier,  secondly, the casing is branded but the internal components might be something from Raon?  Kase minsan nakita ko iyong ibang TV sets na ayaw umandar, tinitira na rin ng mga technicians nila doon sa site at may dalang spare parts to install.

I 've heard the Konzert AVR and it was good but I think Sakura AVR is better and more neutral.

yup sakura is much better than konzert...

about sa mga amp sa Pier I think hindi naman siya kinarne kase talgang nasa orig state pa siya talgang gamit nga lang, iba naman ang nag hahandle ng mga surplus amps like little chatty's, pero yung mga surplus TV definitly talagang kadalasan chop-chop na... 
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: Signal2Noise on May 17, 2006 at 08:32 AM
yup sakura is much better than konzert...

about sa mga amp sa Pier I think hindi naman siya kinarne kase talgang nasa orig state pa siya talgang gamit nga lang, iba naman ang nag hahandle ng mga surplus amps like little chatty's, pero yung mga surplus TV definitly talagang kadalasan chop-chop na... 

Sige at mapuntahan nga iyong sinasabi mo.  Balak ko rin tumingin ng stereo amp, though I already have a Marantz receiver pero iba pa rin talaga ang tunog ng 2 channels (balak kong ibenta itong SR4500 ko, titanium finish , 8 months use from D&M distributor in Dubai para makabili ako ng int. amp).  I am eyeing to buy a Roksan Kandy MK-III/L.III to match my MA S6 pero kulang pa iyong pera ko.  Sa lahat kase ng int. amp na narinig ko ay ito lang Roksan ang talagang perfect match sa Monitor Audio (SS with a tube sound quality).  Nagkaroon na rin ako ng NAD C320BEE pero bright ang tunog at ang lakas ng gain (PD?) kaya ibinenta ko, Yamaha naman parang kulang sa punch, Pioneer A309 medyo fatiguing, nakakapagod makinig.  Pag may nakita ako sa pier na matino at puwedeng pag tiyagaan, siguro for the meantime, surplus muna ako, sa Bday ko na lang bibili ng signature amp.

Salamat bro'.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on May 17, 2006 at 11:48 AM
Sige at mapuntahan nga iyong sinasabi mo.  Balak ko rin tumingin ng stereo amp, though I already have a Marantz receiver pero iba pa rin talaga ang tunog ng 2 channels (balak kong ibenta itong SR4500 ko, titanium finish , 8 months use from D&M distributor in Dubai para makabili ako ng int. amp).  I am eyeing to buy a Roksan Kandy MK-III/L.III to match my MA S6 pero kulang pa iyong pera ko.  Sa lahat kase ng int. amp na narinig ko ay ito lang Roksan ang talagang perfect match sa Monitor Audio (SS with a tube sound quality).  Nagkaroon na rin ako ng NAD C320BEE pero bright ang tunog at ang lakas ng gain (PD?) kaya ibinenta ko, Yamaha naman parang kulang sa punch, Pioneer A309 medyo fatiguing, nakakapagod makinig.  Pag may nakita ako sa pier na matino at puwedeng pag tiyagaan, siguro for the meantime, surplus muna ako, sa Bday ko na lang bibili ng signature amp.

Salamat bro'.

bro try mo luxman baka yung ang maka partner mo ng matagal. actually one pdvd member here (sir sandawa) collects high end audio gears from pier...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: Signal2Noise on May 17, 2006 at 11:12 PM
bro try mo luxman baka yung ang maka partner mo ng matagal. actually one pdvd member here (sir sandawa) collects high end audio gears from pier...

Salamat, saan sa pier ko makikita itong tindahan na may nagbebenta ng Luxman amp? Mga magkano rin ang halaga ng surplus nito? Sir, paki-advise na lang at baka sa Saturday ay mapuntahan ko.

Salamat muli.....
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on May 18, 2006 at 06:04 PM
Salamat, saan sa pier ko makikita itong tindahan na may nagbebenta ng Luxman amp? Mga magkano rin ang halaga ng surplus nito? Sir, paki-advise na lang at baka sa Saturday ay mapuntahan ko.

Salamat muli.....

the location is almost sa dulo. meron mga naka display na audio gears. just ask there, yung halaga naman ng Luxman is around 6 to 7k mahirap nga lang maka tyempo kasi ang bilis mabili, actually there are good surplus amp there like the Sony ES series, Sansui, Yamaha C1 etc. I believe the best models that are sought after are those VFets' ones... good luck for the hunt...   
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: Signal2Noise on May 18, 2006 at 09:27 PM
the location is almost sa dulo. meron mga naka display na audio gears. just ask there, yung halaga naman ng Luxman is around 6 to 7k mahirap nga lang maka tyempo kasi ang bilis mabili, actually there are good surplus amp there like the Sony ES series, Sansui, Yamaha C1 etc. I believe the best models that are sought after are those VFets' ones... good luck for the hunt...   

Maraming Salamat muli....
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: sanction214 on May 31, 2006 at 07:28 AM
Reposting for a guest member.

 I saw Konzert AVR in Raon. It's not dolby digital but it's DD and DTS ready.  If your DVD has a built-in DD and DTS decoder, may home theatre ka na rin.

boss, makapag play ba ng dts ang konzert AVR kapag walang optic out? yung AC-3 connection nya, makapag produce ba nang DTS?...baguhan pa lang po...medyo wala pang alam...salamat sa mag reply... ;)
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on May 31, 2006 at 09:30 AM
boss, makapag play ba ng dts ang konzert AVR kapag walang optic out? yung AC-3 connection nya, makapag produce ba nang DTS?...baguhan pa lang po...medyo wala pang alam...salamat sa mag reply... ;)

dipende kung may DTS decoder yung DVD player mo. yung fiber optic is another option to produce dig signal (DD and DTS) walang fiber optic ang KonZert AVR meron siya 5.1ch input, you can use yung 5.1 channels output RCA ng DVD player mo coconnect mo sa 5.1 ch. input RCA ng KonZert ayun mag plplay ng 5.1ch format ang konzert may dolby d at DTS HT kana... 
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: sanction214 on May 31, 2006 at 11:26 PM
thanks boss, my natutunan na naman ako ;D at pwede ring i-share sa mga kakilala ko na planning to set-up HT...at least paunti-unti... :)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: Brian_mico on Aug 07, 2006 at 08:42 PM


mga sir, help me naman..   san ba nakakabili ng remote ng konzert AV600R, my son accidentally dropped it so  ayun nag eerrror na kahit palitan ko ng  bagong battery.., meron bang universal remote na pwede sa konzert ?



thanks

Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: allan1836 on Aug 20, 2006 at 08:37 AM
Good Day,

I just want to share a Sakura amp I discovered sa raon just yesterday. I believe its an old model, the Sakura AV-735. The salesman, who I knew na very well before, recommended this unit above the Konzert 502a and Sakura 5023 for videoke. He said its much more powerful than the other 2 models and it has a built in mix mixing capabilities and DSP processor (i.e. Hall, Disco, etc.). The best thing is, its only P 5t. Its looks more professionally built though I haven't tested it yet (nagmamadali kasi ako that time).

Does anybody here have a first hand experience using this AV-735? Do you think the sound can compare with a separate processor and amp? I can be saving a lot by going this route.

Hattori_hanzo,
Any comments on this amp?

Thanks.     
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Aug 20, 2006 at 01:53 PM
Good Day,

I just want to share a Sakura amp I discovered sa raon just yesterday. I believe its an old model, the Sakura AV-735. The salesman, who I knew na very well before, recommended this unit above the Konzert 502a and Sakura 5023 for videoke. He said its much more powerful than the other 2 models and it has a built in mix mixing capabilities and DSP processor (i.e. Hall, Disco, etc.). The best thing is, its only P 5t. Its looks more professionally built though I haven't tested it yet (nagmamadali kasi ako that time).

Does anybody here have a first hand experience using this AV-735? Do you think the sound can compare with a separate processor and amp? I can be saving a lot by going this route.

Hattori_hanzo,
Any comments on this amp?

Thanks.     

for power sakura is a reputable amp, but for its DSP? im still in doubt, DSP should have variable settings for room or venue acoustic, like digitech or yamaha. pero kung meron tong ganun settings why not. but kung wala and if 735 is a more a professional looking amp. it should have the routing capabilities for effects processor suitable for vocoder, for vocal trimings (eg. delay, reverb, intensity etc etc..) kasi kung walang ganitong expansion malakas lang yan pero ang vocals mo mag tutunog lata lang yan...

for videoke and power is what your longing kung baga pang outdoor, im might recommend this one, but for theater capabilties like 5.1 inputs. the K-600r is much better...     
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: mhon0975 on Sep 06, 2006 at 11:58 AM
sinabi mo pa dre......suave tumunog ang konzert.....he he he semrpe tayo dapat unang pumuri sa gear natin.....he he he...and dapat ok din speaker di bah?....baka nga related sa pioneer yon eh...pero related or hindi.....solved ako sa ampli ko.. ;)....btw..yung max na kaya ng tenga ko na volume na nagawa ko eh......around 9 o'clock position ng knob....medyo efficient kasi speaker ko eh...92db sensitivity kaya match. if ever na mag upgrade ako sa av reciever......sana mas maganda ang tunog sa konzert ko......pag hindi kasi nakakadismaya lang.....if ever lang naman.pero ngayon wala akong balak.......solved to the max ako.

sa tibay ok din ba yan KONZERT na ampli. yung KONZERT na speaker na may model na KS250v at ks500v yata yun. maganda din ba yon?
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: lotus on Dec 19, 2006 at 01:57 PM
may available pa bang konzert avr600 sa market/raon? magkano kaya ngayon?
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: juneaki on Dec 19, 2006 at 03:51 PM
may available pa bang konzert avr600 sa market/raon? magkano kaya ngayon?

I once bought AVR600 sa raon and i got it for only 3.5K. I just forgot the name of the store sa loob ng Raon Shopping Center. Ewan ko lang kung magkano na ngayon but i still see stores displaying AVR600.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: lotus on Dec 20, 2006 at 08:36 AM
juneaki ..thanks,

para kasi ito sa Promac CantaMax ko..... dual purpose Karaoke/entry level HT... wla bang website konzert?.. saan makikita yun specs ng avr600.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: lotus on Dec 22, 2006 at 02:36 PM
hehehehe.... mukhang lahat eh vacation mode na ha.... i'll try to canvass konzert av-600r this weekend
wwhaaaaa.... hindi ata aabot sa pasko.....
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: lotus on Jan 02, 2007 at 10:11 AM
i was able to go to raon,,, pero parang ubos na yun av-600r isang shop lang ang nakitaan ko P4850... waaahhh ..heheheh kapos budget ko... .. ipon ipon ipon muna... But I was able to see a sakura 1800, yun may prologic decoder P3999... hmmm... isip isip nga ako kung ano bibilhin ko..... waaaahhhhh....

saan pa ba may murang av-600r.......????
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: dhiat05 on Jan 31, 2007 at 05:51 PM
videoke/PA/sound:

KonZert 502a 500wpc - 3,5k
Digitech studio 100 - 10k
shure sm58 with cables - 6k wireless 10-15k
Konzert KSS10 - 6k
cables - 1k

yung digitech is the heart of the processing, yun ang nagpapaganda ng tunog sa vocals...   

BRo juz wanna ask kung available ba lahat ito sa raon? cenxa na newbie kc aq dto clear ko lang anu ba itong Digitech studio 100 at shure sm58 ???   
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: dhiat05 on Feb 09, 2007 at 05:17 AM
bro Brian_mico,

pag nagkaroon ka na nang sub you will hear a different perspective pag dating sa audio and HT...  ;)

ako my audio and HT expirience has put me into another level and has never been the same again, nung sinubukan ko mag local na speakers and subwoofer. "somehow" kaya pala ng mura at local na speakers yung hinahabol habol natin sa mga branded ones but without putting a hole in your pocket...

pag bibili ka ng subwoofer dito kana bumili sa B&S section makaka jackpot ka dyan, dyan ako nakakuha ng subwoofer (DTX 4.15) with a 15" sub at a price tag of 4,9k only, kung bibilihin mo ito ngayon nasa 11k sa Raon...

malapit ka na rin ma SARS (joke) hehehe!  

Pre ask ko lang B&S section, anu ba ito? place ba? name ng store? thnx!
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: John E. on Feb 09, 2007 at 05:57 AM
sir dhiat05 buy and sell (b&s) section po nating mga members ito sa site.

you may want to check it out since there's a lot of interesting finds in it.

dami kasi nag u-up-grade/down grade, trade, trading for others, re-selling, selling and selling for others their gears minsan mapapabili ka :D

kahit di mo ganung kailangan (due to SARS)  ;D

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?board=7.0

goodluck!
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: yasmine_leigh on Jul 09, 2007 at 06:22 PM
mga gurus, any updates regarding these amp???  pwede po ba ikabit dito ung mga DIY na 5.1 speakers??? how about ung mga branded na 5.1 speakers???

thanks po. Newbie here.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: yasmine_leigh on Jul 18, 2007 at 11:13 PM
up lang po...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: rustyns on Dec 10, 2007 at 05:09 PM
After 2 years of using my Konzert AV600R in a 2.1 config, may nakita akong cheaper and better sounding alternative. So I decided to sell. Buti na lang tinest ko in 5.1 config before the actual sale dahil may distorted (crrk) sound coming from the surround and center channels. Sumasabay siya sa bass and audible siya kahit ilagay sa minimum ang volume. Lumalabas naman yung expected na output dun sa surrounds and center - meron lang additional na crrk sound. Front channels are ok. Any similar experiences?  Is this a major problem?

TIA
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Dec 10, 2007 at 09:33 PM
After 2 years of using my Konzert AV600R in a 2.1 config, may nakita akong cheaper and better sounding alternative. So I decided to sell. Buti na lang tinest ko in 5.1 config before the actual sale dahil may distorted (crrk) sound coming from the surround and center channels. Sumasabay siya sa bass and audible siya kahit ilagay sa minimum ang volume. Lumalabas naman yung expected na output dun sa surrounds and center - meron lang additional na crrk sound. Front channels are ok. Any similar experiences?  Is this a major problem?

TIA

after using it for 2 years you have to do maintainance bro, try to check the wires, connectors or even the volumes usually dun nang gagaling yng crrrkk sound eh, pero kung persitent the only thing to do is check the intenal parts.   
Title: Konzert Amplifier
Post by: tong2x on Apr 11, 2008 at 10:22 AM
Hi Sir/s,

Tulong po... ang planning to buy konzert 600r nextweek... cno po ang may alam ng specs nito nabasa ko lang po kc itong model ng konzert na ito d2, kaya d ko alam ang specs nito..

Pwed rin po malaman kung ilang watts ang dapat sa mga speaker?

Thank you very much,
BuRN :)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: perlzenber on Apr 21, 2008 at 01:09 PM
Good day mga masters! Any updates on latest low cost but quality amps like Konzert and Sakura?
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: pilyo168 on May 20, 2008 at 03:07 AM
guys try ninyo itong low impedance subwoofer amplifier para sa rca sub output ng Konzert receiver ninyo.

copy paste link.

http://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=734004
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: sidewinder on Jul 08, 2008 at 11:18 PM
up ko lang guys, i'm looking for an amplifier, budget is around 5k ano ba pinaka maganda na model ng konzert or any other aplifier na puede sa budget ko? thanks sensya na dami tanong bago pa lang kasi ako sa mga home theater setup....
Title: Re: Konzert Amplifier
Post by: fdisk21 on Jul 11, 2008 at 10:32 PM
up natin ito
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: fdisk21 on Jul 13, 2008 at 01:40 AM
Up natin ito...Any update? Whats the latest model for Konzert Amp...
Title: Re: Konzert Amplifier
Post by: --Streetlegal-- on Jul 16, 2008 at 01:33 PM
i think this is the same as av-500 r, which i am selling at b&s section

as per manual continuous power output sya for fronts, while for center and surround its 100w

i'll check the manual, i'll update you once po  ;D
Title: Re: Konzert Amplifier
Post by: rustyns on Jul 17, 2008 at 01:56 AM
eto yung konzert thread :)
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=15327.0 (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=15327.0)
Title: Re: Konzert Amplifier
Post by: dec0der on Aug 26, 2008 at 10:40 AM
tol, b4 u buy an AVR & speakers dapat naka plano na lahat pra maayos at maganda ang labas. halimbawa kung saan mo gagamitin, gaano ba kalakas yong gusto mo, atb.


ako, AV502a ang gamit ko for 6 speakers (DIY) pang indoor and outdoor sya.  :)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: dec0der on Aug 26, 2008 at 10:49 AM
sa amin d2, latest ata yong AVR633 which is very good for videoke pro mas malakas parin yong 502a sa kanya.
Title: Re: Konzert Amplifier
Post by: ulric on Aug 30, 2008 at 09:33 AM
tol, b4 u buy an AVR & speakers dapat naka plano na lahat pra maayos at maganda ang labas. halimbawa kung saan mo gagamitin, gaano ba kalakas yong gusto mo, atb.


ako, AV502a ang gamit ko for 6 speakers (DIY) pang indoor and outdoor sya.  :)

Sir, newbies po ako, meron din akong bagong purchase na AV502a gamit ko is 2 speakers yung KONZERT KS-252V, maganda at malakas na rin yung sounds nya, may balak kasi ako mag dagdag ng pang 5.1 and hingi tulong nyo kung ano mas okay parang maging kasing ganda ng sounds nyo lol:)
Title: Re: Konzert Amplifier
Post by: ulric on Aug 30, 2008 at 09:37 AM
Sir, newbies po ako, meron din akong bagong purchase na AV502a gamit ko is 2 speakers yung KONZERT KS-252V, maganda at malakas na rin yung sounds, may balak sna me na mag dagdag ng pang 5.1 and pls advice naman po kung ano speakers and ratings ang gamit nyo or lahat ba ay konzert na rin. ;)
Title: Re: Konzert Amplifier
Post by: ulric on Sep 03, 2008 at 02:37 PM
i think this is the same as av-500 r, which i am selling at b&s section

as per manual continuous power output sya for fronts, while for center and surround its 100w

i'll check the manual, i'll update you once po  ;D


hi Sir,

 Need your advice po kung pwede me mag mix ng speaker kasi yung front ko is konzert, avr-500a konzert tapos sub ko is ganz klar, need help sna para sa center and rear speaker kung anong brand din na maganda para imix na maganda rin ang blending ng tunog. tnx
Title: Re: Konzert Amplifier
Post by: --Streetlegal-- on Sep 03, 2008 at 03:04 PM

hi Sir,

 Need your advice po kung pwede me mag mix ng speaker kasi yung front ko is konzert, avr-500a konzert tapos sub ko is ganz klar, need help sna para sa center and rear speaker kung anong brand din na maganda para imix na maganda rin ang blending ng tunog. tnx

im not using any center and rear speaker sir ulric, tried it, pero mahina sya sobra, nasasapawan ng fronts, nag set-up na lang ako for HT para balance ang sound

pm ko senyo set-up ko, pls check the link na lang sir ulric
Title: Re: Konzert Amplifier
Post by: --Streetlegal-- on Sep 03, 2008 at 03:13 PM
im not using any center and rear speaker sir ulric, tried it, pero mahina sya sobra, nasasapawan ng fronts, nag set-up na lang ako for HT para balance ang sound

pm ko senyo set-up ko, pls check the link na lang sir ulric

gud pm sir ulric

i can't send pm to you, error prompt yung site
Title: Re: Konzert Amplifier
Post by: Brian_mico on Sep 03, 2008 at 04:31 PM

hi Sir,

 Need your advice po kung pwede me mag mix ng speaker kasi yung front ko is konzert, avr-500a konzert tapos sub ko is ganz klar, need help sna para sa center and rear speaker kung anong brand din na maganda para imix na maganda rin ang blending ng tunog. tnx

If budget permits, please settle with branded AVR's, marami sa B&S Section.. kung wala naman. I would recommend Konzert AV600R, a true DD 5.1 output...yung vocals,  sa center lang talaga lumalabas... also have independent volume controls for SUBS and surround.. 



Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: pogingpogi on Oct 07, 2008 at 09:18 AM
Up ko lang. This thread is very interesting. I am a new member of PinoyDVD and I just want to share that I just bought a Konzert active subwoofer yesterday for 3k from Raon. The subwoofer is on a huge ported box and has an 8" speaker driver. Nominal power handling is 100W and the frequency response is 35hz - 180 hz. It has pre-amp outputs for daisy-chaining, volume control and low-pass filter. So far I am very satisfied with this subwoofer.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: aHobbit on Oct 07, 2008 at 01:01 PM
sa amin d2, latest ata yong AVR633 which is very good for videoke pro mas malakas parin yong 502a sa kanya.

With 8 toshiba amp drivers inside, i will not be surprised!  ;). I own one for utility sound reproduction kapag may occassion. Worth the 2K I paid for it.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Oct 08, 2008 at 03:05 PM
With 8 toshiba amp drivers inside, i will not be surprised!  ;). I own one for utility sound reproduction kapag may occassion. Worth the 2K I paid for it.

yup and mine is still feeding my old 2way homemade horn and instrumental driver, pang new year man.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: tong2x on Nov 03, 2008 at 09:57 AM
sir/s,

I bought 502a last saturday and im using my old generic speakers, i've read about kss10 on this thread.

Are they really match on my avr? magkano n kaya ito ngayun?

thanks,
BuRN
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Nov 03, 2008 at 11:16 AM
sir/s,

I bought 502a last saturday and im using my old generic speakers, i've read about kss10 on this thread.

Are they really match on my avr? magkano n kaya ito ngayun?

thanks,
BuRN

bro if you gonna buy kss10 match siya pero sa trimming you would need para EQ to enhance hi freq.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: tong2x on Nov 03, 2008 at 01:00 PM
do you have idea how much? if thats the case, i saw a surplus pioneer eq for 2k. or mic mixed w/ eq will be better? what do you think, coz i can seee lot of them. Thanks a lot.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Nov 03, 2008 at 05:07 PM
do you have idea how much? if thats the case, i saw a surplus pioneer eq for 2k. or mic mixed w/ eq will be better? what do you think, coz i can seee lot of them. Thanks a lot.

ako kasi yung nag post ng info regarding the kss10 here, when I aquired it cost me 6k/pair 500watts ea.

heres the photo:
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC00099.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC00047.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC00046.jpg)

buy as much as possible separates, dahil pag nasira yung mic mixer save pa yung eq, unlike pag integrated eh pag sira ang isa lahat damay...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: tong2x on Nov 04, 2008 at 07:38 AM
Alright thanks a lot, you still using them? i dont know how to get in there. do you have contact number for the store from where you bought the ks10?
but i think they will not be lower that 6k for now.

One more thing, last night i'm watching movies using my 502a, i noticed that my surround has a delay. i dont know if thats built in capability. but im glad it sounds good to me. have you noticed it also.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Nov 04, 2008 at 08:01 AM
Alright thanks a lot, you still using them? i dont know how to get in there. do you have contact number for the store from where you bought the ks10?
but i think they will not be lower that 6k for now.

One more thing, last night i'm watching movies using my 502a, i noticed that my surround has a delay. i dont know if thats built in capability. but im glad it sounds good to me. have you noticed it also.

i think its the prologic decoding from the amp or the signal is more delayed from the rear either ways, front channels lang kasi ang input ng 502a im only using it for videoke purposes, i have a dedicated HT system, which is consisting of Yamaha RXV995, Euros 8, DTX 4.15, before i went abroad, pero nag seize na yung 995 kaya when i come back, planning to buy another AVR and upgrade my display to LCD.

heres the photos:
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/newadd2.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC00028.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC00024.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC00026.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC00052.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DTX15.jpg)

I dont have the KSS10 anymore sold it to a fellow pdvders in a reasonable price, I have a DIY 2 way 15" horn loaded speaker system which I use for New year and other PA stuff.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: wilky on Nov 17, 2008 at 11:29 PM

Unang-una laking pasalamat ko nakita ko tong site na to, kung hindi d ko alam kung anong bibilhin ko sa Raon...hehehe.

Ito naman yung entry level ko na nabili ko sa Raon last Saturday.

Sakura AV348 - originally I was looking for Konzert AV600R pero tinanong ko si Mike yung sa Moses Aaron na store sabi mas OK daw to, so far OK na OK pero yung ibang settings hindi na si-save pag off mo ng unit.

Konzert KS-450V - parang may kulang kaya bumili ako ng external na tweeter sa ngayon ayos ang tunog.

Micro acoustics 200 watts SPT-201 tweeter. Naka tap lang yung tweeter doon sa speaker hindi ako sure kung tama ba tong ginawa ko. Any advice?

Ang tanong ko lang sa AV348 is kailan aandar yung exhaust fan kasi yung sa akin hindi umiikot kaya inisip ko tuloy baka may sensor yun na pag na reach na yung temp saka sya aandar. May nakaka-alam po ba sa inyo mga fellow members?

Special mention pala ni Mike si Ultraman ;)

Keep up the good work guys and more power!

(http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp220/wilky_photobucket/16-11-08_23012.jpg)
(http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp220/wilky_photobucket/16-11-08_23042.jpg)
(http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp220/wilky_photobucket/16-11-08_23062.jpg)
(http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp220/wilky_photobucket/16-11-08_23082.jpg)
(http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp220/wilky_photobucket/16-11-08_23014.jpg)
Title: Re: Konzert Amplifier
Post by: djmykel on Nov 19, 2008 at 07:40 AM
i have a 2 konzert av-502 and i using it in my disco mobile....yess!!! disco mobile!!! pang mi-hi lang naman... malakas kc xa at pino rin tumunog, at hindi pa ko binibitin... ask ko lang po kung may nakaka alam b talaga kung ilan ang real watts per channel ang av-502 n konzert???? marami salamat!!!
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: comecum on Nov 23, 2008 at 04:57 PM
videoke/PA/sound:

KonZert 502a 500wpc - 3,5k
Digitech studio 100 - 10k
shure sm58 with cables - 6k wireless 10-15k
Konzert KSS10 - 6k
cables - 1k

yung digitech is the heart of the processing, yun ang nagpapaganda ng tunog sa vocals...   

Saan nakakabili ng Digitech Studio 100? Any pictures?
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: dec0der on Nov 24, 2008 at 10:10 AM
guys, ano bang Konzert EQ ang magandang e bagay sa 502a at 633? yong EQ 215 ba or yong EQ 231 din na konzert? ty
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: 215-cbn on Nov 25, 2008 at 01:03 AM
Guys, am new din dito, just bought Konzert kht-501 speaker, consist of 2 tower speaker - 200 watts po, then 1 center - 100 watts, at 2 sorround speaker - 50 watts each. meron din po akong binili na crown 120 watts active subwoofer, as of now ang amplifier na gamit ko is Honta AV-2008 which is cheap amp lang po kuha ko po for 1,600, ndi po niya madrive ng husto ang 5 speakers ko, planning to buy new amps. ask ko lang po, kung ano ang better amps na kukunin ko,  Konzert AV-502a o Konzert AV-302, etc.,  Sana mga  bros. bigyan niyo po ko tips kung ano ang babagay  sa simple setup ko.

additonal -  ang DVD player ko po, Philips  616k, at Lexing midi player LX - 7035.  ;)


I LOVE THIS SITE, MABUHAY
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Nov 25, 2008 at 10:04 AM
Guys, am new din dito, just bought Konzert kht-501 speaker, consist of 2 tower speaker - 200 watts po, then 1 center - 100 watts, at 2 sorround speaker - 50 watts each. meron din po akong binili na crown 120 watts active subwoofer, as of now ang amplifier na gamit ko is Honta AV-2008 which is cheap amp lang po kuha ko po for 1,600, ndi po niya madrive ng husto ang 5 speakers ko, planning to buy new amps. ask ko lang po, kung ano ang better amps na kukunin ko,  Konzert AV-502a o Konzert AV-302, etc.,  Sana mga  bros. bigyan niyo po ko tips kung ano ang babagay  sa simple setup ko.

additonal -  ang DVD player ko po, Philips  616k, at Lexing midi player LX - 7035.  ;)


I LOVE THIS SITE, MABUHAY

bro buy someting na may 5.1 iput like konzert 600r yan yata babagay sa speakers mo.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: tong2x on Nov 25, 2008 at 04:22 PM
Sir/s,

Eto po setup ko ngayun sa 502a ko;
- 2 ks-450V (450watts)
- 8" konzert sub
-35w surround
-20w center


so far, ok naman yung sound para skin music, movies videoke. kaya during videoke laging may feedback.
Help naman how to eliminate feedback, and also how to improve pa yung setup ko. Shure pala yung gamit kong mic. Thanks alot.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Nov 26, 2008 at 08:00 AM
.....Help naman how to eliminate feedback, and also how to improve pa yung setup ko. Shure pala yung gamit kong mic. Thanks alot.

What Shure mic model are you using?  If it is the Shure SM58, you should not have problem with feedback because this mic has excelllent feedback rejection.  Ito rin gamit ko with my setup e.  Sir, baka naman yung nabili mong Shure ay hindi original?  If you bought it at less than 6,000 pesos and it has on-off switch, I'm pretty sure na imitation yung Shure na nabili mo kaya nagfe-feedback.  Original Shure SM58 have no on-off switch and costs more than 6,000 pesos.   :(
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: --Streetlegal-- on Nov 26, 2008 at 08:21 AM
Guys, am new din dito, just bought Konzert kht-501 speaker, consist of 2 tower speaker - 200 watts po, then 1 center - 100 watts, at 2 sorround speaker - 50 watts each. meron din po akong binili na crown 120 watts active subwoofer, as of now ang amplifier na gamit ko is Honta AV-2008 which is cheap amp lang po kuha ko po for 1,600, ndi po niya madrive ng husto ang 5 speakers ko, planning to buy new amps. ask ko lang po, kung ano ang better amps na kukunin ko,  Konzert AV-502a o Konzert AV-302, etc.,  Sana mga  bros. bigyan niyo po ko tips kung ano ang babagay  sa simple setup ko.

additonal -  ang DVD player ko po, Philips  616k, at Lexing midi player LX - 7035.  ;)


I LOVE THIS SITE, MABUHAY

look for a receiver that has 5.1 output, you may look for av 500r or av 600, both konzert receivers, pero matagal na tong nalabas sir, siguro 2nd hand makakabili ka, sold my av 500r dito, i can say that it can fit your set-up right now
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: tong2x on Nov 26, 2008 at 04:30 PM
Sir, shure C608WD ang model, i bought it as anson's landmark for 2.2k, sabi nila orig daw yun eh, i looking for much higher price pa pero wala n daw, yun n daw mahal, kc yung iba mag imitation lang.

san b makakabili ng shure sm58? kung walang feedback yan kahit mahal bibilhin ko. thanks a lot

What Shure mic model are you using?  If it is the Shure SM58, you should not have problem with feedback because this mic has excelllent feedback rejection.  Ito rin gamit ko with my setup e.  Sir, baka naman yung nabili mong Shure ay hindi original?  If you bought it at less than 6,000 pesos and it has on-off switch, I'm pretty sure na imitation yung Shure na nabili mo kaya nagfe-feedback.  Original Shure SM58 have no on-off switch and costs more than 6,000 pesos.   :(
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: 215-cbn on Nov 27, 2008 at 09:10 PM
look for a receiver that has 5.1 output, you may look for av 500r or av 600, both konzert receivers, pero matagal na tong nalabas sir, siguro 2nd hand makakabili ka, sold my av 500r dito, i can say that it can fit your set-up right now



sir, salamat for the replies, kaya na kayang idrive niya ang tower speaker ko po at yung iba, pede po bang hingi ako ng specs niya, at magkano po kaya? 

salamat
Title: Re: Konzert Amplifier
Post by: tong2x on Nov 30, 2008 at 11:04 AM
i have a 2 konzert av-502 and i using it in my disco mobile....yess!!! disco mobile!!! pang mi-hi lang naman... malakas kc xa at pino rin tumunog, at hindi pa ko binibitin... ask ko lang po kung may nakaka alam b talaga kung ilan ang real watts per channel ang av-502 n konzert???? marami salamat!!!

my amp is konzert 502a also, and i'm using KS-450W speaker. i tried connecting this 2 speaker for channel A (L&R), i can say that kayang kaya nyang pabayuhin yung mga speaker, sabi nung pinagbilhan ko 500W daw per L&R output.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: joco_ph on Dec 08, 2008 at 03:14 PM
first, i want to thank pinoydvd for a great site.

by searching alone, i learned a lot of things already.

ang hindi ko lang ma gets, some people say that the sakura sound better. 
if you take a look at the 502 model, parang same manufacturer lang ang gumawa.....
correct me if im wrong, parang name lang ang pinalitan.  the placements
of the control are exactly the same.  Pati sa likod, hawid din.

i havent decide yet which to get but im leaning toward konzert.

thanks.



Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: joco_ph on Dec 08, 2008 at 03:55 PM
videoke/PA/sound:

KonZert 502a 500wpc - 3,5k
Digitech studio 100 - 10k
shure sm58 with cables - 6k wireless 10-15k
Konzert KSS10 - 6k
cables - 1k

yung digitech is the heart of the processing, yun ang nagpapaganda ng tunog sa vocals...   

sir, this is my first time to setup a videoke system.  eto na ba pinakamura? :)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: --Streetlegal-- on Dec 08, 2008 at 04:28 PM
first, i want to thank pinoydvd for a great site.

by searching alone, i learned a lot of things already.

ang hindi ko lang ma gets, some people say that the sakura sound better. 
if you take a look at the 502 model, parang same manufacturer lang ang gumawa.....
correct me if im wrong, parang name lang ang pinalitan.  the placements
of the control are exactly the same.  Pati sa likod, hawid din.

i havent decide yet which to get but im leaning toward konzert.

thanks.





go for Konzert, AV-502a

i have this for outdoor parties and videoke, been with me since early years of 2000, and no problem as of this moment, purely praises from people na nakakakita, lakas kasi.

it drives my four 12 inch subwoofers, 3 way
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: joco_ph on Dec 11, 2008 at 08:04 PM
thanks dude
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: odyopayl on Dec 11, 2008 at 09:25 PM


Micro acoustics 200 watts SPT-201 tweeter. Naka tap lang yung tweeter doon sa speaker hindi ako sure kung tama ba tong ginawa ko. Any advice?

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Ganda rin parang HK!
Late lang but you should at least series a NP capacitor 2.2uf/50V for each tweeter.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: mlonix on Dec 15, 2008 at 04:37 PM
ask po..may nakita po ako sa apliance center(sm to be exact)..meron cila benta konzert ampli..ok b yun?..tnx..nasa 3.5k un price..tnx
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: moks on Dec 15, 2008 at 04:44 PM
much better if you add a little more to your budget and buy a branded entry level receiver (e.g. yamaha, denon, onkyo..etc.) that's just me though.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: mlonix on Dec 20, 2008 at 11:39 AM
"made in" po dapat bilin kung konzert 502a ang bibilin..?..meron kasi china en thailand..nu po kya mas ok dun..ty
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: joco_ph on Dec 24, 2008 at 07:43 PM
much better if you add a little more to your budget and buy a branded entry level receiver (e.g. yamaha, denon, onkyo..etc.) that's just me though.

magkano po kaya if branded entry level?
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: joco_ph on Dec 24, 2008 at 07:45 PM
sa amin d2, latest ata yong AVR633 which is very good for videoke pro mas malakas parin yong 502a sa kanya.

please confirm lang, kaya malakas ang 502a kasi it can drive more speakers? pero if watts/channel ang pag usapan, di po ba mas malakas ang avr633?
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: joco_ph on Dec 25, 2008 at 10:56 AM
Merry Christmas to all  :)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: cyclone on Jan 06, 2009 at 12:21 AM
guys..help me naman about sa konzert AV-502a
meron akong konzert AV-502a
diba 500+500 watts po sya,pano po iyon?  ???
500+500watts (L/R)speaker A
500+500watts (L/R)speaker B
ganun po ba iyon? ??? ???

sa speaker naman po ng konzert na KSS-10 meron na po ba available sa raon yung ganong model? :-[ :-[
compatible naman po ba gamitin ang KSS-10 speaker sa AV-502 amplifier? :-[ :-[

salamat po... :D pasensya sa aking mga katanungan ahihihihi ;D ;D
sana po mabigyan nyo po ako ng idea dito salamat po ulit ;)
more power sa pinoyDVD at sa lahat.... ;D
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: comecum on Jan 06, 2009 at 08:50 PM
Quote
sa speaker naman po ng konzert na KSS-10 meron na po ba available sa raon yung ganong model? Embarrassed Embarrassed
compatible naman po ba gamitin ang KSS-10 speaker sa AV-502 amplifier?

Bro kung malapit ka sa Alabang area, available sa Metropolis Alabang yung KSS-10 for P6,500, meron din sa Abenson, Metroplis branh din for P7,000.

Yung nasa Abenson, meron sila demo unit for AV-502A na KSS-10 speaker ang naka kabit.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: cyclone on Jan 09, 2009 at 05:50 PM
Bro kung malapit ka sa Alabang area, available sa Metropolis Alabang yung KSS-10 for P6,500, meron din sa Abenson, Metroplis branh din for P7,000.

Yung nasa Abenson, meron sila demo unit for AV-502A na KSS-10 speaker ang naka kabit.

thanks po sir comecum,,
try ko minsan silipin yan nsa alabang  ;D

thanks po ulit..more powers to you ;)
Title: Re: Konzert Amplifier
Post by: cyclone on Jan 09, 2009 at 06:00 PM
guys..help me naman about sa konzert AV-502a
meron akong konzert AV-502a
diba 500+500 watts po sya,pano po iyon?   ???
500+500watts (L/R)speaker A
500+500watts (L/R)speaker B
ganun po ba iyon? ??? ???

salamat po...  :D pasensya sa aking mga katanungan ahihihihi  ;D ;D
sana po mabigyan nyo po ako ng idea dito salamat po ulit  ;)
more power sa pinoyDVD at sa lahat.... ;D
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: cyclone on Jan 12, 2009 at 08:48 PM
hi guys!!!

     Galing ako ng raon kanina.., meron akong nakita na power amplifier ang konzert...how good is it?
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: cyclone on Jan 14, 2009 at 09:32 PM
Hi guys!!!

           Try this site for Konzert adik,  ;D ;D

http://konzert.net.cn/en/index.asp     

kaso wala mga specs. un mga products dito, puro mga picture and model lang  :-[
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: ramsey on Jan 14, 2009 at 09:48 PM
Magkano ngayon lakaran ng Konzert av502? Meron kasi store dito sa min p3500 ang benta. Don't know the price in other areas like Raon and Quiapo. Mahal ba yung p3500? Plano ko po sana mag buo ng videoke.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: ramsey on Jan 14, 2009 at 09:50 PM


san b makakabili ng shure sm58? kung walang feedback yan kahit mahal bibilhin ko. thanks a lot

+1
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: cyclone on Jan 15, 2009 at 12:19 AM
Hi guys!!!

           Try this site for Konzert adik,  ;D ;D

http://konzert.net.cn/en/index.asp     

kaso wala mga specs. un mga products dito, puro mga picture and model lang  :-[

mga speaker lang ang nandito sa site na yan :D

meron pa isang site ang konzert pro hindi pa ayos nang mbuti pro try nyo parin

http://konzert.com.ph/
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: cyclone on Jan 16, 2009 at 06:16 PM
Magkano ngayon lakaran ng Konzert av502? Meron kasi store dito sa min p3500 ang benta. Don't know the price in other areas like Raon and Quiapo. Mahal ba yung p3500? Plano ko po sana mag buo ng videoke.

Mahal po yan sir Php3.5k, nabili ko po yun konzert 502a nung Nov. 11 2007 sa presyong Php 3.3k lang po sa raon.. ewan ko lang sa ngayon, baka mejo bumaba na iyon ngayon.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: blitzkrieg2381 on Feb 16, 2009 at 02:22 PM
gandang araw... tanong lang po. ok lang ba ikabit ang konzert av301 150watts/channel sa Wharfedale 9.2 na meron 20-100watts?
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: ramsey on Feb 16, 2009 at 04:10 PM
Sa pagkakaintindi ko, mas mainam overpowered kesa underpowered. Wag mo lang itodo volume.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: blitzkrieg2381 on Feb 16, 2009 at 04:17 PM
mas mainam overpowered kesa underpowered
Salamat :) ngaun pwede ko na ikabit ung speaker para ma break-in.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: blitzkrieg2381 on Feb 17, 2009 at 07:05 PM
meron pa akong tanong. kc nung kinakabit ko na ung speaker... napansin ko ung nominal impedance ng speaker nakalagay 6ohms tapos ung sa konzert amps nakalagay 150w+150w 8ohms. ok lang kya mag connect to...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: JojoD818 on Feb 21, 2009 at 10:43 PM
sino po ang meron schematic ng konzert av502?

salamat


Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: ghomer on Feb 22, 2009 at 02:12 PM
cno bah konzert user dito?.. ava502a pa share nman ng pic ung front panel and ung back panel.. gusto ko kc makita itsura nya compare sa sakura amp.. sana may makatulong.. salamat...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Feb 22, 2009 at 11:29 PM
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Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: bono vox on Feb 23, 2009 at 11:34 AM
nice shots.  :D
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: kicxzippinbud on Feb 26, 2009 at 02:25 AM
i saw these konzert amp in SM department stores and grocery store. madaming version pero how would you know the model or the newest one? better model or what not. meron din katabing mga magnavox ba un or megavox amp. not sure kung ok din. medjo lower ung price nya compare sa konzert. anyone tried it na ba?
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: cyclone on Feb 27, 2009 at 10:50 PM
i saw these konzert amp in SM department stores and grocery store. madaming version pero how would you know the model or the newest one? better model or what not. meron din katabing mga magnavox ba un or megavox amp. not sure kung ok din. medjo lower ung price nya compare sa konzert. anyone tried it na ba?

sa akin ang gamit ko Konzert amp. model AV-502a, un picture nya un nsa taas un post ni sir hannzo, okei nmn sya pra sa akin..un magnavox o megavox now ka lng nkita yang brand..kung sa SM department store ka bibili mpapahal ka tlga dun... kung gsto mo mkamura mdami ka mkikitang mura sa raon.. pwd mo pa tawaran nang husto.. ingat lang kc meron mga peke dun..tsaka un konzert mdali lang ipa ayos kung sakaling masira kc pwd mo sya ipaayos sa authourized service center ng pioneer. 1yr warranty pa ang service. mtibay nmn yung mga konzert amps.

wag lang lagi un na-arawan o naiinitan at sa wet places kung ggmitin sa sa outdoor. 
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: markcrenz on Feb 28, 2009 at 10:15 AM
i saw these konzert amp in SM department stores and grocery store. madaming version pero how would you know the model or the newest one? better model or what not. meron din katabing mga magnavox ba un or megavox amp. not sure kung ok din. medjo lower ung price nya compare sa konzert. anyone tried it na ba?

the small price difference might not be worth it. my friend bought konzert av502a last month, 3,300 lang sa raon.

konzert is a tried and tested brand. i know several videoke owners and majority use konzert av502a. i think it's been in the market for at least 5 years. pair it with good speakers and it will sound decent and loud enough. it can also easily drive 4-ohm speakers but the distortion is higher than at 8 ohms.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: ghomer on Feb 28, 2009 at 10:18 PM
guyz pano bah malalamn na fake ang konzert502a?? xcept sa marking nya sa ibabaw ng casing and sa warranty??? ung sa loob, pano malalaman???? meron bah may alm kung pano?...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: ghomer on Mar 01, 2009 at 01:51 AM
tsaka san bah ako sure na makakabili ng hindi fake na konzert??? may nakakaalm ba kay sir mike sa moses aaron??? pahelp nman... bili kc ako sa monday.. SALAMAT!
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: markcrenz on Mar 01, 2009 at 05:37 PM
at that price wala na siguro mamemeke nyan...  ;)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: MercedesBMW on Mar 02, 2009 at 07:01 PM
at that price wala na siguro mamemeke nyan...  ;)
sigurado...mahal kase
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: ramsey on Mar 02, 2009 at 08:44 PM
Ask ko lang po yung Konzert ba may Dolby decoding na? 5.1 sound.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Mar 03, 2009 at 02:15 AM
Ask ko lang po yung Konzert ba may Dolby decoding na? 5.1 sound.

too bad wala eh pure analog
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: markcrenz on Mar 03, 2009 at 08:50 AM
Ask ko lang po yung Konzert ba may Dolby decoding na? 5.1 sound.
wala. meron lang simulated matrix surround sa rear speakers. parang old dolby pro-logic in a way.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: jeff29jeff2002 on May 22, 2009 at 12:09 AM
hi guys,

just seen this thread...

I've read in some post na meron din palang konzert na AV600R model. If I get it right, 5.1 output din to just like the AV-502. If meron po user nito ask ko lang ano difference nya sa AV502?Any reviews of it? Pa-share naman.

Thanks in advance..
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on May 23, 2009 at 09:02 PM
hi guys,

just seen this thread...

I've read in some post na meron din palang konzert na AV600R model. If I get it right, 5.1 output din to just like the AV-502. If meron po user nito ask ko lang ano difference nya sa AV502?Any reviews of it? Pa-share naman.

Thanks in advance..


502 doesnt have 5.1 inputs 600 has...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: jeff29jeff2002 on Jun 07, 2009 at 11:25 PM
Sir Hattori,

Good day...

Thanks for the info... 5.1 inputs of 600 means individual inputs for Front L/R, Rear L/R and center? Tama ba? Or does it have a decoder? Pasensya na po mejo marami tanong...

Jeff
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Jun 08, 2009 at 12:06 PM
Sir Hattori,

Good day...

Thanks for the info... 5.1 inputs of 600 means individual inputs for Front L/R, Rear L/R and center? Tama ba? Or does it have a decoder? Pasensya na po mejo marami tanong...

Jeff

analog inputs lang bro that means RCA input for evey channels L/C/R/SR/SL
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: jeff29jeff2002 on Jun 08, 2009 at 06:52 PM
Thanks sir.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: joel_marcelo on Jun 14, 2009 at 01:07 AM
Thanks sir.
if your planning of getting a konzert receiver, i have a better china made receiver. has better features than this one. IM me sir. :)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: scumbads on Jul 06, 2009 at 11:30 AM
mga boss maari ko bang malaman kung ilang watts and ohms ang surround,center and sub ng av502a?
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: scumbads on Jul 06, 2009 at 11:33 AM
karagdagang katanungan din po saan ako maaring makabili ng center,surround speaker para sa av502a model na amp.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: cyclone on Jul 07, 2009 at 10:51 PM
mga boss maari ko bang malaman kung ilang watts and ohms ang surround,center and sub ng av502a?

center 50watts max @ 8 ohms
surround 50watts max @ 8 ohms

     The sub-out on konzert av-502a needs powered sub-woofer, not direct in to speaker.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: scumbads on Jul 11, 2009 at 12:38 PM
san po nakakabili ng center at surround speaker para sa model av 502a?
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: bluesman68 on Jul 30, 2009 at 02:00 PM
Hi Guys,

This is my very first post in the forum. Been reading about the topics and trying to learn. I have basic knowledge in car audio but very minimal in home a/v system.

I have an RCA RT22(?) 5.1 HT sa bahay which was sent to me by my brother in law who resides in Canada. I accidentally plugged it to a 220V outlet and it got damaged. Though I was able to have it repaired by a technician, I think its program got busted already, as in it just turns off, change settings, adjust levels, etc.

I'm looking at replacing it with a Konzert AVR and I saw some units in SM. Napansin ko lang puro RCA ang input nya.. Wala bang model na hindi RCA? as in open wires lang?

TIA.

Deo P.
Title: Re: Things to know about KonZert 502A amp!!!
Post by: textmailbox on Aug 12, 2009 at 05:25 PM
yep, 338 is a regulator, i just used it as a regulator for my digital amp project from 41Hz.com. yun 383 old chipamp din ng NS yun eh. Typo lang siguro.

nasilip ko na naman kahapon yan sa raon, most ng mga bumibili pag Konzert yun 502A kapag Sakura naman AV-5023 ang model. haslos pareho lang laman eh.  ;D ;D ;D Type na type ko yun volume pot, may click-click.  8)


Hi, there is Sakura 502K @550wpc, an upgrade model of Sakura 5023.  It is better than Konzert 502A.

Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 16, 2009 at 12:39 PM
hi konzert users,
what can you say about this model, KONZERT AMPLI AV-301.
planning to pair it with a polk audio with 100 watts RMS per channel for my room (ipod and cd player).
can this just amplify and not enhance the sound? (ayoko kasi ng enhancement sa music)thanks  :)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: bam777 on Nov 13, 2009 at 11:59 AM
Maganda ang Konzert 502-A and pair it with WDTV na may WAV audio na naka 24 bit 48khz , para kang nasa recording studio.   
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: levilacandula on Dec 22, 2009 at 07:59 PM
Tanong ko lang kung may optical audio port (toslink) / DTS decoder yung Konzert 502-A?

gamitin ko sana sa WDTV eh. 

kung wala, may iba pa bang alternative na budgeted AV na may DTS decoder & optical audio port?

Salamat ng marami!
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: joco_ph on Mar 20, 2010 at 11:18 PM
up lang....
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: reynan on Apr 23, 2010 at 07:15 AM
I own a Konzert amplifier, Model AV-502A. Analog nga lang yata ito eh. May decoder din for 5.1 di ko lang sure kung anong klase kasi may speaker input sa likod eh.....for front (A & B), Center & Rear. Mainly sa music ko lang although minsan i watch movie rin. Yung specs na nakalagay sa manual ay 500w+500w, I guess sa stereo siguro. Ok lang naman kasi yung speaker ko naman ay 400w yung rating, a dai-ichi floorstander. For music, solved naman ako. Pag nanunuod ako ng movie (vcd), ok din. Ang lakas kasi eh. For me. Music or Movie, it is very good na.
toto yan mga bro,very good sounds set up for yung konzert 502a,4 speake na tig 500watts yung kinabit ko na crown subwoofer,nagtalunan yung mga pusa samin sa sobrang lakas.hehehe
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: reynan on Apr 23, 2010 at 08:25 AM
mag konzert ka nalang bro!kc ang sakura at konzert parihas lang ang pyesa nyan,TOSHIBA lahat,kaya konzert kana lang,very high performance for me?masisira yung dingding mo,pag nilakasan mo ,at malinaw pa ang tunog good for MOVIES!
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: kits11326 on Apr 24, 2010 at 09:16 PM
MAHUSAY TALAGA  itong konzert 502a. set up ko dito 2x15" Konzert PRO800w instrumental at 2x15" JBL GTO-15.
perwisyo na sa kapit bahay.. hehe ;)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: ramsey on May 01, 2010 at 07:45 PM
Talaga kaya na kaya nya i drive 500w x 2 na speakers? Nakalagay kasi sa likod ng 502A. Considering na magaan lang sya. Compared sa ibang amp. What makes this amp powerful?
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: sabati on May 09, 2010 at 02:37 PM
may problem po ako sa konzert 502a ngsstop siya parang yung ngjujump CD dahil ba overloaded siya? kasi 2pcs 15" targa 500w 4ohms DVC subwoofer for base & 2pcs targa 12" 400w 8 ohms instrumental and 2pcs dai 1chi 200w 8 ohms horn tweeter gamit ko..

need ko ba palitan ng power amp or may wiring techniques para di maoverload? if yes po any idea po magkano power amp kayang idrive speaker ko..
any suggestion guys..thanks a lot..

naitry po yung 1 15" and 1 12" and 1 tweeter po very smooth po yung tunog and wlang naging problem so overload nga po cguro...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: jeff29jeff2002 on May 09, 2010 at 04:00 PM
hi sabati,
 just want to clarify ; for a single channel ba yung 2pcs 15" targa subwoofer at 2 pcs 12" instrumental at 2 pcs horn tweeter? If pang isang channel lang yan, it would be too much for the amp to handle.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: sabati on May 09, 2010 at 08:09 PM
hi sabati,
 just want to clarify ; for a single channel ba yung 2pcs 15" targa subwoofer at 2 pcs 12" instrumental at 2 pcs horn tweeter? If pang isang channel lang yan, it would be too much for the amp to handle.

magkasama po yung 1 -12" and - 1 tweeter hiwalay po yung 15"
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: kits11326 on May 10, 2010 at 11:11 AM
4 ohms yung sub mo? kaya nag kakaganun eh dahil mahina ang impedance ng sub mo, dapat mga 8ohms. bute may built in control yang 502A ng hindi masunog speakers mo.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: sabati on May 10, 2010 at 02:12 PM
4 ohms yung sub mo? kaya nag kakaganun eh dahil mahina ang impedance ng sub mo, dapat mga 8ohms. bute may built in control yang 502A ng hindi masunog speakers mo.

dual voice coil po sya iseries ko po ba para maging 8ohms sya?
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: jeff29jeff2002 on May 10, 2010 at 11:58 PM
magkasama po yung 1 -12" and - 1 tweeter hiwalay po yung 15"

More Clarifications brod;

1) Ano po kinabit mo sa Left Channel at ano sa Right Channel?

2) My suggestion, for a better impedance handling use a dividing network.. you can series the 2 coils of your sub to have an 8 ohms impedance.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: sabati on May 11, 2010 at 06:57 PM
benta ko nlang po yung 15" targa speaker ko...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: vectormaniac on Jun 04, 2010 at 01:36 PM
up... just finished back reading.. btw i'm new here po.

good day guys, i already posted an inquiry kaya lang inactive na yata yung thread, and i already started my own thread pero wala pa ren nakakapagreply, so i decided to post here.

i have a few questions, maybe i have read it already but missed the idea, sana me makatulong,

1. i understand na malakas yung konzert av-502a, tanong ko lang kung kaya nyang idrive yung 2 pairs of kss10, bale 2 front and 2 rear? or merun ba kayong masa-suggest na better ampli within the same price range na may additional features like fm, dd, dts, prologic, etc?

2. ano yung masa-suggest nyo na center and sub for this? maybe it will add it along the way, kasi yung balak ko yung ampli lang muna tska yung 4 speakers kasi di pa kasya sa budget pag lahat kagad.

3. i will use it outdoors sa socialhall, mainly for loud music playing, watching movies and videoke na ren. pag gagamitin ko ito pang videoke, merun pa bang kelangan idagdag na equipment aside from mics?

4. if i decided to choose other speaker like the ks-650v is it possible to add tweeters? how can i do it, merun bang device na idadagdag?

5. in playing music, lalabas ba yung audio sa lahat ng speakers connected? or stereo lang?

comments will be greatly appreciated, medyo lengthy po yung questions ko pero sana matulungan nyo po ako, newbie pa lang po kasi ako sa mga ganito sana maenlighten nyo ako, thank you pinoydvd and more power!
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: askalmaster on Nov 06, 2010 at 03:48 PM
MAHUSAY TALAGA  itong konzert 502a. set up ko dito 2x15" Konzert PRO800w instrumental at 2x15" JBL GTO-15.
perwisyo na sa kapit bahay.. hehe ;)

kaya ba ito talaga mga paps? gusto ko rin sanang dagdagan
yung sa akin eh..(pair of kss-12 at 500w each) yan yung 12" version
ng kss-10... nakasaksak sila sa speaker/channel A so bakante pa yung
speaker/channel B... gusto ko sanang dagdagan pa ng mga bagong labas
na konzert indoor/outdoor speakers raging from 400 to 500w... kaya pa ba?
btw... planning to add an active/powered sub too pero mga 160 to 200w
power lang... panundot lang... kahit DIY suggestions ay welcome din po... TIA!!

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@ vectormaniac

sana may sumagot ng inquiry mo... interesado ko ring
malaman yung sagot sa ibang tanong eh...

kung videoke player need mo go for platinum brands...
platinum tj-10 -- gamit ko at very satisfied
platinum bmb-one
platinum x-series


eto medyo sagot sa tanong ko...

share ko lang...
para medyo rekta ang source kaso
bitin pa rin eh heheh...

nag email ako sa Micro Industries (konzert) China
manufacturing site ng konzert..

email:  [email protected]


Quote
To Whom This May Concern;


Hello, I hope anybody can help me with this...

I recently bought a konzert av-502a amplifier
and paired it with 2 konzert kss-12 speakers - 450-500w each

I hook the 2 kss-12 at the Speaker A
one at the R(right) and one at the L(left)

then choosing A as channel in use.

so the Speaker B is still vacant...

Can i add another pair of speakers on Speaker B?
like a pair of either KSS-350v or KSS-450v?

then choose A + B as channel in use.

Is it too much(overloaded)?

If it is... what, how many or how much
speaker power can you suggest that i
can still put on the L & R of Speaker B

and use them all by choosing A + B channel?

sorry coz the Konzert av-502A manual have
no specific intructions on its power output...
it's just say 500W + 500W - 8ohms...
and i don't know if the amplifier is in bridge,
series or in paralle
l... I hope somebody would
enlighten me on this...

Thanx In Advance...



eto ang sumagot at sagot...


email:  [email protected]

Quote
Dear sirs,
Our engineer advise that, you can add a pair of KS-350V on Speaker B, it's ok.
Regards,
Jane


pero syempre bago kayo magsalpak ng additional speakers
basahin nyo rin muna mga post ng mga gurus natin dito or sa ibang site

btw... kung mag-eemail din kayo baka sa spam box nyo
rin bumagsak yung reply kasi yung name nung sender ay
chinese characters... so don't delete agad... hth...


Title: Newbie Question
Post by: yanskee on Nov 13, 2010 at 01:42 PM
Hello po sa lahat!

Mga Sir, question naman, gusto ko pa kasi magkaron ng decent setup lang
Main use will be for karaoke lang po at for music, di po cguro masyado pang movies.
Eto po ung nakita ko sa abenson (or I am sure sa raon meron din)

KONZERT AMPLI AV-502A (4,099 sa Abenson)
KONZERT SPEAKER KS-252V (3,399) or KONZERT SPEAKER KS-252V (4,099 Abenson)

Pwede na po ba na ampli at speaker lang? To follow na lang cguro ung subwoofer wala pa kasi budget

Pasensya na po ha wala ako masyado alam sa mga ganito e.
Meron ako dati uncle na mahilig sa ganito kaya lang out of the country na sya kaya di ko matanong.

Thank you po sa mga sasagot!
Title: Re: Newbie Question
Post by: jnazareta on Nov 14, 2010 at 07:51 PM
Hello po sa lahat!

Mga Sir, question naman, gusto ko pa kasi magkaron ng decent setup lang
Main use will be for karaoke lang po at for music, di po cguro masyado pang movies.
Eto po ung nakita ko sa abenson (or I am sure sa raon meron din)

KONZERT AMPLI AV-502A (4,099 sa Abenson)
KONZERT SPEAKER KS-252V (3,399) or KONZERT SPEAKER KS-252V (4,099 Abenson)

Pwede na po ba na ampli at speaker lang? To follow na lang cguro ung subwoofer wala pa kasi budget

Pasensya na po ha wala ako masyado alam sa mga ganito e.
Meron ako dati uncle na mahilig sa ganito kaya lang out of the country na sya kaya di ko matanong.

Thank you po sa mga sasagot!


Sir yanskee pwede na po yan pang videoke kasi po yung speaker na yan is a two way 250W speaker ang downside lang po nyan is wala masyadong bass hindi ganon kalalim kasi po design yang speaker na yan for hanging eh.. you can pair it with a konzert sub kahit yung ks10 or 12 para macompensate nya yung bass.
Title: Re: Newbie Question
Post by: askalmaster on Nov 16, 2010 at 09:39 PM
Hello po sa lahat!

Mga Sir, question naman, gusto ko pa kasi magkaron ng decent setup lang
Main use will be for karaoke lang po at for music, di po cguro masyado pang movies.
Eto po ung nakita ko sa abenson (or I am sure sa raon meron din)

KONZERT AMPLI AV-502A (4,099 sa Abenson)
KONZERT SPEAKER KS-252V (3,399) or KONZERT SPEAKER KS-252V (4,099 Abenson)

Pwede na po ba na ampli at speaker lang? To follow na lang cguro ung subwoofer wala pa kasi budget

Pasensya na po ha wala ako masyado alam sa mga ganito e.
Meron ako dati uncle na mahilig sa ganito kaya lang out of the country na sya kaya di ko matanong.

Thank you po sa mga sasagot!


I won't recommend it paps!!  hindi tatagal yang speaker na ks-252v sa av-502a...
kung konzert av-302 amp pwede pa...  pero di ko pa rin recommended...
mas maganda kung konzert ks-450V or kss-10 kung sa av-302a ipapares kasi po
masyadong mahina yan... baka mabitin ka... pero oks na rin kung para sa merong
maliliit ang space sa bahay... wag na wag lang i-pair po sa av-502a... pag accidentally
na natotodo or napapalakasan lang lagi ay sira po yan... maliit kasi capacity...

nga pala bakit parehong ks-252v yung example/question mo po..?
baka po may mali sa post nyo po, baka po ks-450v yung isang speaker..?

av-302 -- indoor
av-502a -- indoor/outdoor

recommended initial set-up...

av-302
+
pair of ks-252v or
pair of ks-350v or
pair of ks-450v or
pair of kss-10(3-way speaker)

av-502a
+
pair of ks-450v or
pair of ks-550v or
pair of ks-650v or
pair of ks-652v(outdoor speakers) or
pair of ks-800 or
pair of kss-12(3-way speaker)

mahina to malakas/maganda yan...

then pag meron uling budget... add ka ng konzert sub din heheh...

eto link -- http://www.konzert.net.cn/en/products.asp?TypeName=KARAOKE%20SPEAKER%20SYSTEM (http://www.konzert.net.cn/en/products.asp?TypeName=KARAOKE%20SPEAKER%20SYSTEM)

hth...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: sycy2222 on Nov 23, 2010 at 05:03 AM
Quote
recommended initial set-up...

av-302
+
pair of ks-252v or
pair of ks-350v or
pair of ks-450v or
pair of kss-10(3-way speaker)

Ano po magandang subwoofer for this setup?considered na home theater na po ba ito? thanks!
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: askalmaster on Nov 23, 2010 at 05:24 PM
Ano po magandang subwoofer for this setup?considered na home theater na po ba ito? thanks!

paps pang sounds lang yan and indoor videoke, not HT
pag pang home theater at konzert din ay merong av-500R,
yung Sakura brand ay mas maraming model...

kung pang sounds... mere-recommend ko lang ay kung
de-dose(12") mga main speakers mo ay de-diyes(10") ang
kunin mong subwoofer at kung 10" ang main ay 8" ang kunin
mo para mas maging purpose talaga nung subwoofer ay
panundot lang... pero kung pambulabog ang habol mo ay
ay yung kasinglaki or mas malaki sa main ang kunin mong
active/powered subwoofer... imho...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: constyne on Dec 06, 2010 at 11:43 AM
mga masters.... nalibot ko na buong RAON para humanap ng konzert KSS-10 or 12 ippair ko sana sa konzert 502... san po kaya ang iba pang dealer nito maliban sa raon...??? or anu pa po maganda pam videoke na speaker.... tulong naman po.... budget ko 6-8K lang.... tnx...tnx....
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: askalmaster on Dec 12, 2010 at 01:50 PM
paps gamit ko ay pair ng konzert kss-12
pang- videoke at pang sounds at kahit
pang-movie ay panalo!! 3-way kasi sya
w/ Xover
kaya maganda ang seperation ng tunog.. ;D

kss-10 ay yung smaller version nya... 6,500 pares na..
yung kss-12 ay 4,050 isang piraso, kaya 8,100 pares..
mas maganda para sa akin ang buga ng mga de-dose for
personal use kaya mas prefer ko yung kss-12... balak ko rin yung
kss-10 para add ko pang outdoor... i'm still not sure lang kasi kung
kaya pang i-handle ng konzert av-502a amp ko eh heheh...

mula ng binili ko yung kss-12 ay di pumasok sa isip ko yung mga katagang...
ang pangit..., parang gusto kong palitan.., mali ang bili ko.., etc... heheh...

at kung di ka naman mahilig sa super kalabog ay tamang-tama
lang din sya kasi kaya namang palabasin yung bass nya thru the amp..
kaya no need na para sa akin to add an active/powered subwoofer... imho ha..

btw... per order basis talaga yang kss model kaya swerte mo na makakita ng
display for audition/sound test... wala rin akong nakitang may stock nyan for
display dyan sa raon... nilibot ko na halos lahat ng store heheh...
pero dito sa'min sa Cavite ay mayroon... sa Lotus Imus... near entrance...
duon ako nag sound test/audition... pero di me duon bumili heheh...

hth...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: reynan2219 on Dec 16, 2010 at 08:12 AM
pwde bang i-series connection KW3000m 12" subwoofer?
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: Mr.innocent on Dec 17, 2010 at 04:21 PM
mga kuya tanong ko lang po bkit d magkasing lakas ung sound ng speaker ko..???
-SPEAKER A po xa nkakabit mas malakas ung left kesa po sa right ganon po b talaga ung konzert 502-A

DAI-1CHI po speaker ko 130 watss lang po..
KONZERT 502-A nmn po amplie ko...


PLZ paki sagot nmn po tanong ko
TENX aLOT mha KUYA/// :)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: airsupplyjp on Dec 22, 2010 at 11:42 PM
 :-\ hello po sa lahat.... gusto ko lang pong ipa.alam sa lahat na totoo palang may pirated na konzert 502a hehehe just saw some of those pirated yesterday... tiningnan ko yung pagkalagay ng parts sa loob nung nabili ko sa sm appliance at dun sa nkita kung pirated, magka.iba po yung pagkakalagay ng components sa loob, pati yung appearance mahahalata mo, khit yung logo ng konzert pangit. di tulad nung nabili ko sa sm... maayos lahat.. kaya siguro maraming nag sasabi na defective yung konzert kasi pirated yung nabili nila... hehehe... I'm new here nga poh pala.
Title: additional powered sub for konzert 502A
Post by: airsupplyjp on Dec 22, 2010 at 11:54 PM
hello po ulit sa lahat... gusto ko lang po sanang mag tanong kung anong konzert powered subwoofer ang maganda e pares sa 2 45o watts na konzert
Title: proper set.up for konzert 502a?
Post by: airsupplyjp on Dec 23, 2010 at 12:05 AM
hello po ulit.. tanong ko lang po kung ok lang na isang 450W bawat channel ang set.up ko sa 502a? I mean 1 450W sa A at 1 450W sa B? di poh bah masisira yung amp ko? dapat po ba sa isang channel lang nka kabit ang pair of 450W na konzert speaker? at mag.dagdag nlng po ng pair sa B? or ok lng na tag.iisa bawat channel? just not to damage the amps?

bago nag poh pala ako d2

  :)

Title: Re: proper set.up for konzert 502a?
Post by: ATJr. on Dec 23, 2010 at 06:02 AM
hello po ulit.. tanong ko lang po kung ok lang na isang 450W bawat channel ang set.up ko sa 502a? I mean 1 450W sa A at 1 450W sa B? di poh bah masisira yung amp ko? dapat po ba sa isang channel lang nka kabit ang pair of 450W na konzert speaker? at mag.dagdag nlng po ng pair sa B? or ok lng na tag.iisa bawat channel? just not to damage the amps?

bago nag poh pala ako d2

  :)



pwede naman yan, kung ayaw mong masira yung amp mo speaker A or B lang ang gamit, wag sabay.....and kaligtasan ng amp mo any nasa iyong mga kamay...... ;D
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: airsupplyjp on Dec 23, 2010 at 07:23 PM
hi, tanong lang poh... bumili poh ako ng konzert 502a the other day.. with a pair of ks 450, kailangan poh ba sa isang channel ko lang sila e  kabit? yung sa'kin poh kc isa sa channel A at isa sa Channel B... 2 palang poh kc ang speakers ko sa ngayon..at yun din poh kc turo sa'kin nung salesman sa SM isa bawat channel.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 23, 2010 at 08:19 PM
hi, tanong lang poh... bumili poh ako ng konzert 502a the other day.. with a pair of ks 450, kailangan poh ba sa isang channel ko lang sila e  kabit? yung sa'kin poh kc isa sa channel A at isa sa Channel B... 2 palang poh kc ang speakers ko sa ngayon..at yun din poh kc turo sa'kin nung salesman sa SM isa bawat channel.
speaker A/B selection is different from left and right channel.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: askalmaster on Dec 25, 2010 at 02:32 PM
mga kuya tanong ko lang po bkit d magkasing lakas ung sound ng speaker ko..???
-SPEAKER A po xa nkakabit mas malakas ung left kesa po sa right ganon po b talaga ung konzert 502-A

DAI-1CHI po speaker ko 130 watss lang po..
KONZERT 502-A nmn po amplie ko...


PLZ paki sagot nmn po tanong ko
TENX aLOT mha KUYA/// :)

paps try mo muna i-test sa mas malakas na speaker...
yang 502a can handle a pair of 350w up to 650w...
napakaliit nyang speaker mo... baka masira yan...
baka kaya siguro parang di match ang tunog...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: askalmaster on Dec 25, 2010 at 02:37 PM
hi, tanong lang poh... bumili poh ako ng konzert 502a the other day.. with a pair of ks 450, kailangan poh ba sa isang channel ko lang sila e  kabit? yung sa'kin poh kc isa sa channel A at isa sa Channel B... 2 palang poh kc ang speakers ko sa ngayon..at yun din poh kc turo sa'kin nung salesman sa SM isa bawat channel.

sa Left and Right of Speaker A mo lang ikabit... then select A
or sa Left and Right lang ng Speaker B... then select B
mas tama at mas balance sya... wag mong paghiwalayin...
Title: Re: proper set.up for konzert 502a?
Post by: askalmaster on Dec 25, 2010 at 02:42 PM
hello po ulit.. tanong ko lang po kung ok lang na isang 450W bawat channel ang set.up ko sa 502a? I mean 1 450W sa A at 1 450W sa B? di poh bah masisira yung amp ko? dapat po ba sa isang channel lang nka kabit ang pair of 450W na konzert speaker? at mag.dagdag nlng po ng pair sa B? or ok lng na tag.iisa bawat channel? just not to damage the amps?

bago nag poh pala ako d2

  :)



much better kung left and right lang ng Speaker A then choose A
or left and right lang ng Speaker B then choose B
huwag mo ng paghiwalayin... although puwede rin pero mas tama
kung A ay sa A lang pareho ilalagay... ganuon din sa B...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: Mr.innocent on Dec 25, 2010 at 11:29 PM
paps try mo muna i-test sa mas malakas na speaker...
yang 502a can handle a pair of 350w up to 650w...
napakaliit nyang speaker mo... baka masira yan...
baka kaya siguro parang di match ang tunog...

sir tenx po sa pag sagot ng tanong ko new lang po kc me d2 sa pinoydvd...

tanong pa po me ulet pwed po ba lagyan pareho ang SPEAKER "A"  L & R  at  SPEAKER "B" L & R ng tig 500 watts n speaker...... bale po 500+500+500+500.... ano po b ang magang set up..
maraming salamat po....
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: airsupplyjp on Dec 26, 2010 at 11:58 PM
sa mga nag reply... thanks...:) mag tatanong na nman po ako ulit... Ok poh ba ang Pioneer na amps? balak ko poh kc bumili next year for my room... yung 5.1 lang poh.. meron poh kc ako nkita na pioneer around 13k.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: askalmaster on Dec 27, 2010 at 10:26 AM
sir tenx po sa pag sagot ng tanong ko new lang po kc me d2 sa pinoydvd...

tanong pa po me ulet pwed po ba lagyan pareho ang SPEAKER "A"  L & R  at  SPEAKER "B" L & R ng tig 500 watts n speaker...... bale po 500+500+500+500.... ano po b ang magang set up..
maraming salamat po....


pang indoor or outdoor ba?
personal or pang-negosyo(mobile)?

well... may mga nagsasabing kaya... pero ako ayaw kong
subukan yung puro 500w at ipagsapalaran yung amp...
yung iba nga per pair of 500w ay tig-isang amp din...
lalo na yung pang-mobile or magdamagan...

read mo yung other post... at post ko about email sa konzert...

ang suggestion nila(konzert engineers) na ok lang ay...
500w + 500w + 350w + 350w using A+B as speaker in use...

tsaka kung pambahay lang at pakalye-kalye minsan ay
malakas na yung 450-500w paps... basta in seperate
speaker box... not that videoke box enclosure... hth...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: markcrenz on Dec 27, 2010 at 10:57 AM
suggestion nila(konzert engineers) na ok lang ay...
500w + 500w + 350w + 350w using A+B as speaker in use...
konzert engineers nag-suggest?  ::) kung ganyan nga ang wattage pero puro 4 ohms bawat speaker sunog amp mo dyan.  ;D
what you have to watch out for is the combined impedance of the speakers in parallel (A+B), not the wattage.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: junr_28 on Dec 27, 2010 at 02:45 PM
Hi to all! I'm newbie here and this is my 1st tym, Pls help po nman regarding with my konzert amp. 502a and paired of ks-450v which i was bought this dec. nagpa audition po ako sa Anson's makati and satisfied nman pero nung sa bahay ko na pinatugtog at pinakingan, parang may kulang sa tweeter halos hindi ko na marinig yung kalansing at sobrang boomy! minsan nga sentunado pa yung tunog pag mga melow ang sounds although yung bass buo at solid bumayo pag pang disco ang music. na stress po ako....so please help mga gurus..(Hindi po ba sa player ang problem?)

my dvd palyer po : PENSONIC MIDI PLAYER
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: Mr.innocent on Dec 27, 2010 at 06:47 PM
pang indoor or outdoor ba?
personal or pang-negosyo(mobile)?

well... may mga nagsasabing kaya... pero ako ayaw kong
subukan yung puro 500w at ipagsapalaran yung amp...
yung iba nga per pair of 500w ay tig-isang amp din...
lalo na yung pang-mobile or magdamagan...

read mo yung other post... at post ko about email sa konzert...

ang suggestion nila(konzert engineers) na ok lang ay...
500w + 500w + 350w + 350w using A+B as speaker in use...

tsaka kung pambahay lang at pakalye-kalye minsan ay
malakas na yung 450-500w paps... basta in seperate
speaker box... not that videoke box enclosure... hth...

kuya ASKALMASTER tenx po wala po kasi me masyadong alam sa pagset up ng sound system eh..
pang INDOOR & OUTDOR po sana at personal n gamit lang po un....

ALAM nyo po b kung pano icheck ang KONZERT 502A kung IMITATION O ORIGINAL...?????
PANO po b iyon malalaman..?

Nagtanong po ako dati sa raon sabi sken ung imitation daw walang fuse at ung orig daw meron....
di ko po alam kung totoo un...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: askalmaster on Dec 28, 2010 at 01:32 AM
konzert engineers nag-suggest?  ::) kung ganyan nga ang wattage pero puro 4 ohms bawat speaker sunog amp mo dyan.  ;D
what you have to watch out for is the combined impedance of the speakers in parallel (A+B), not the wattage.

ups sorry di ko nabanggit about the impedance... av-502a kasi gamit nung nagtanong
kaya i assumed na alam nya dapat na 8 ohms ang recommended sa 502a... not 4 ohms...
pero kahit 8 ohms lahat ay nakakatakot paring gamitin yung A+B kasi liliit pa rin talaga...
kaya i also recommend na gumamit na lang ng isa pang ampli para mas safe...

@ mr.innocent...
dami namang speaker line-up ang konzert, dai-ichi, crown, kevler na pang sounds/karaoke/PA
na syut sa av-502a... may mga budget meal din naman... dami ring mabibilhan paps...
at about pekeng av-502a... di ko masasabi kung meron nga... recondition/downgrade maari pa...
yung tipong dating sira na inayos lang at iba na yung piyesa kesa sa orig... posible rin di ba?
so para wala kang problema ay sa mga trusted/recommended store or mall ka bumili... hth...

@ junr28
parehong speaker ba paps?  kasi bumili rin me nyang ks-450v... at super kalansing and
kalabog nga yan para sa akin... isang speaker lang ba or both yung nawala yung kalansing?
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: rustyns on Dec 28, 2010 at 01:59 PM
Mga sir,

Meron po bang karaoke amp ang Konzert na merong pre-out/amp-in?

Thanks
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: Mr.innocent on Dec 28, 2010 at 10:12 PM
ups sorry di ko nabanggit about the impedance... av-502a kasi gamit nung nagtanong
kaya i assumed na alam nya dapat na 8 ohms ang recommended sa 502a... not 4 ohms...
pero kahit 8 ohms lahat ay nakakatakot paring gamitin yung A+B kasi liliit pa rin talaga...
kaya i also recommend na gumamit na lang ng isa pang ampli para mas safe...

@ mr.innocent...
dami namang speaker line-up ang konzert, dai-ichi, crown, kevler na pang sounds/karaoke/PA
na syut sa av-502a... may mga budget meal din naman... dami ring mabibilhan paps...
at about pekeng av-502a... di ko masasabi kung meron nga... recondition/downgrade maari pa...
yung tipong dating sira na inayos lang at iba na yung piyesa kesa sa orig... posible rin di ba?
so para wala kang problema ay sa mga trusted/recommended store or mall ka bumili... hth...

@ junr28
parehong speaker ba paps?  kasi bumili rin me nyang ks-450v... at super kalansing and
kalabog nga yan para sa akin... isang speaker lang ba or both yung nawala yung kalansing?
MARAMING SALAMAT po KUYA ASKALMASTER.... 8)
ung konzert 502a ko po nbili ko sa mall.. TEX po ULIT sa INYO....
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: junr_28 on Dec 29, 2010 at 02:08 PM
@ junr28
parehong speaker ba paps?  kasi bumili rin me nyang ks-450v... at super kalansing and
kalabog nga yan para sa akin... isang speaker lang ba or both yung nawala yung kalansing?
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Yes Sir! both left and right, wala yung matining na sounds, nag try nga ako na walang bass L & R. same talaga...defect po ba yung speaker? at kanina nag punta ako ulit ansons mantrade lapit lng d2 sa ofc at nag pa test ako, meron nman kalansing....hay...nid po ba tlaga mag dagdag ng tweeter? what kind? at paano po install? How about equalizer? makakadagdag ba trebble nun or add'l speaker na bookshelf type pang sorround meron cla dun 100watts/speaker?? pls help nman po...sayang at ngyon ko lng nalaman na may forum na ganito.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: askalmaster on Dec 29, 2010 at 04:27 PM
hala... kung parehong speaker at parehong humina...
baka yung amp mo ang nagka-problema... hopefully
baka sa treble control lang... ask mo sa mga tech gurus...
or hiram ka ng amp... test mo yung speakers... kung ganoon
pa rin ay yung parehong tweeter ng parehong speakers mo
ay sabay nasira w/c is bihira mangyari... or inabot ng malas bigla...
hindi ba biglang natapatan ng mic yan or nagfeedback ng
mga 5 seconds or more... delikado rin kasi sa tweeter yun eh...

ako kasi asar nga ko sa sobrang kalansing nyang ks-450v eh...
kaya kung nawala yung kalansing ng sa iyo... may problema nga...
hopefully sana minor lang...




Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: plapoy on Dec 30, 2010 at 07:05 AM
Mga Konzert Master,

Newbie question lng po.. I owned a Konzert av502a.. I have DIY 2 12" JBL GT5 subwoofer rating at 4ohms.. So far kaya naman idrive ng amp ko yung 2 subs.. Gusto ko po gawin ngayon is gamitin yung SuperBass na RCA.. pwede ko po ba irekta lang yung subs ko dun?. bali gawa lng po ako ng gauge 12 speaker wire then put an RCA plug (input sa amp) tutunog po kaya un? Balak ko po kasi bumili pa ng Polk TSi series (TSi 300 floorstander, CS10 for center and TSI 100 for the surround) kaya gusto ko ilipat sa SuperBass yung 2 subs ko. possible po kaya ito? Thanks in advance.. :)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: airsupplyjp on Jan 03, 2011 at 07:11 PM
ba't nka higa yung 8 toshiba opts? yung original kc nka tayo while attached sa heatsink.. at dapat yung logo sa top cover hindi engrave pa lalim, nka angat sya.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: junr_28 on Jan 04, 2011 at 04:22 PM
hala... kung parehong speaker at parehong humina...
baka yung amp mo ang nagka-problema... hopefully
baka sa treble control lang... ask mo sa mga tech gurus...
or hiram ka ng amp... test mo yung speakers... kung ganoon
pa rin ay yung parehong tweeter ng parehong speakers mo
ay sabay nasira w/c is bihira mangyari... or inabot ng malas bigla...
hindi ba biglang natapatan ng mic yan or nagfeedback ng
mga 5 seconds or more... delikado rin kasi sa tweeter yun eh...

ako kasi asar nga ko sa sobrang kalansing nyang ks-450v eh...
kaya kung nawala yung kalansing ng sa iyo... may problema nga...
hopefully sana minor lang...

Sir Askalmaster ok na po yung speakers ko! kc nung salubong sa new year inilabas ko ng hauz spaekers ko and ayun! narinig ko din ang hinahanap kong kalansing and deep bass! grabe pla bumuga!~parang true mobile ang dating grabe! anway, nsa cd and player po pla problem, ginamit ko kc yung lumang discman ko and cp samsung ko, to compare with my dvd player? smooth tumunog and walang extra noise! so ..oks na. pero dapat magdagdag pa ng 1paire ok kss10 or 12? hehehe kaya pa kya?




Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: dennmark on Jan 14, 2011 at 10:41 AM
Who want to buy my Konzert Av-502A?
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: ATJr. on Jan 14, 2011 at 11:23 AM
Who want to buy my Konzert Av-502A?

can you pm me price please? saka ano condition nya? you can also post in the trading section...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: zegen on Jan 14, 2011 at 11:04 PM
hello im new here poh in pinoy dvd!!!pwde ko poh bng mlman kng ano poh gmit ng receiver!!!!!!!cnxa na poh baguhan lng poh kc aq sa mga ganyan ei!!!!!p help nmn poh!!!!tnx godbless u all!!! ;D
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: airsupplyjp on Jan 15, 2011 at 12:15 AM
Pa help poh... yung konzert 502a madali poh ba talaga masira? kc yung akin wala pang 1 month.. humina na yung both left channel speaker A at B? at distorted poh may hizzeng sound.. wala nman poh problema yung speakers at Right channels.. sa Lunes ko pah poh kc to madadala sa Pioneer
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: zegen on Jan 15, 2011 at 02:46 PM
Pa help poh... yung konzert 502a madali poh ba talaga masira? kc yung akin wala pang 1 month.. humina na yung both left channel speaker A at B? at distorted poh may hizzeng sound.. wala nman poh problema yung speakers at Right channels.. sa Lunes ko pah poh kc to madadala sa Pioneer




d nmn!!!it depends to user nmn poh yan ei!!!!bka nmn ung mga jack nya sira jan try to change it!!!grounded lng poh cguro yan!!! ;D
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: airsupplyjp on Jan 15, 2011 at 04:19 PM
thanks poh.. dadalhin ko nlng poh 2 sa pioneer service center by monday, malapit lang nman sa amin. pero e tetest ko muna ulit.. wala nman ako problema sa player kc na try ko nah sya sa 3 dvd player ko.. ok nman yung mga player ko. samsung, philips, and sony nman so, sure ang quality. salamat nga poh pala, e try ko tangalin yung mga nka input na iba. nilagyan ko kc lahat, tuner, cd, dvd, aux.. bka nga may grounded dun sa apat
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: zegen on Jan 15, 2011 at 09:54 PM
ok lng un sir!!!!!!pro kng d umubra????tlgang kailangan na tlga service center nyan!!!!! ???
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: stockHT on Jan 20, 2011 at 04:30 AM
mga sir ano marerecomend nyo na speaker (pair) para ma match sa 502a?
purpose solely pang videoke lang?

yung mga speakers sa sm na crown, konzert na pair na reliable ba?
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: airsupplyjp on Jan 20, 2011 at 01:27 PM
hay nko.. sakit pala talaga nang Konzert Av 502a ang masira yung left channels!  :-[ yun ang sabi sa'kin nung sales person sa sm. at yung tga sa Pioneer Service center mismo! di na ko bibili ng Konzert sa susunod.. wala pa isang buwan di ko man lang na enjoy mag Konzert. tgal pa nman nila mag ayos, 2 weeks daw! at di pa sigurado yun ha. binili ko Dec. 19, 2010, nasira ng January 13, 2011.. naging parang radio station na out of tune. naman!
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: catblue on Jan 20, 2011 at 09:07 PM
Hello Good evening!

      Ok ba tong Konzert Av 502a? Gusto ko siyang gamitin sa Pioneer DVD Player ko. Thanks!
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: cyclone on Jan 24, 2011 at 11:38 PM
hay nko.. sakit pala talaga nang Konzert Av 502a ang masira yung left channels!  :-[ yun ang sabi sa'kin nung sales person sa sm. at yung tga sa Pioneer Service center mismo! di na ko bibili ng Konzert sa susunod.. wala pa isang buwan di ko man lang na enjoy mag Konzert. tgal pa nman nila mag ayos, 2 weeks daw! at di pa sigurado yun ha. binili ko Dec. 19, 2010, nasira ng January 13, 2011.. naging parang radio station na out of tune. naman!

Hi airsupplyjp.

     meron akong konzert av502, 3 years old na sya, nung december lang naranasan ko din un ganyang sira sa left channel. totally wala tlga siyang tunog. pero hindi ko lang pinansin.. dko sya ginamit ng mga tatlong araw. pag katapos ng ilang araw tinesting ko xa para i-troubleshoot pero wala na syang sira. walang biro..  :D

     meron ako naisip kung bkit nwala un left. siguro dahil mejo hirap i-install un wire duon sa channel na iyon dahil gipit o mejo masikip meron mga posibilidad na aksidente npag sshort un neg. sa positive or un positive ay nadidikit sa chasis nung amp. meron kasing chassis ground eh, at kung inisip natin na hindi mangyayari un dahil merong pintura un chassis. posible padin dahil pwd iyon mag karoon ng arcing between chassis and conductor wire. kaya maigi pag ng.kakabit ng mga connection sa amp siguraduhin natin na hindi nkasaksak power source.  ;)

     
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Jan 25, 2011 at 06:59 AM
hehe mine is still working fine since 2004 pa! paired with with different speakers. before Eivy 10, then KSS10 tapos Euros 8. then xenon. tapos ngayon DIY na 3 way 12". kagagamit lang last new year and its still kicking! swertihan lang ciguro!

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC00300.jpg)
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and the story goes on and on and on...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: ATJr. on Jan 25, 2011 at 09:43 AM
@hattori,

magkano inabot ng 3 way speakers mo? compared sa Euros, ano impressions mo? thanks....
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Jan 25, 2011 at 10:12 AM
@hattori,

magkano inabot ng 3 way speakers mo? compared sa Euros, ano impressions mo? thanks....

well the euros 8 are really balance with warm soft mid's and hi's (silk) with a prefect match of low notes...

the the 3 ways is pang ratratan. in/out door pede.

simple ported design. two at the back. wood cost 900 ea. ive used 4 pcs 3/4" ply, stickwell glue, screws, putty, then paint.

components

12" sub
5" mid range
1" metal dome

dividing network
almost 11'5k din nagastos, pero un lang heavy duty hehe! planning to get an amp dedicated to sub for a my next folded horn.

PS. the last pic is actually AT-15 Cerwin Vega! to which dun ko ginaya yung design. 2 ported holes din yan sa likod though talgang malakas lang yung AT-15 pa rin hehe! 15"incher eh with matching real QSC MX700 power amp ng erpat ko.   
     
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: markcrenz on Jan 25, 2011 at 10:20 AM
hehe mine is still working fine since 2004 pa! paired with with different speakers. before Eivy 10, then KSS10 tapos Euros 8. then xenon. tapos ngayon DIY na 3 way 12". kagagamit lang last new year and its still kicking! swertihan lang ciguro!
minsan nasa gumagamit din  ;D
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Jan 25, 2011 at 10:26 AM
minsan nasa gumagamit din  ;D

korek!
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: airsupplyjp on Jan 25, 2011 at 06:36 PM
 :( I've decided, d na ako bibili ng Konzert sa susunod. kinonfirmed na kc sa'kin nung salesman tsaka dun sa pioneer service center na sakit daw talaga nang Konzert yung left channels.. I'll try sakura nman.. baka ok yung 1,400 Watts nila.. f di parin, I'll go with the high end amps.  :-\
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: ATJr. on Jan 25, 2011 at 07:56 PM
Quote
sakit daw talaga nang Konzert yung left channels

not acceptable, if there are engineering issues, they have to address them.....
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Jan 26, 2011 at 01:23 AM
not acceptable, if there are engineering issues, they have to address them.....

I agree coz it will affect their sales as well, kung ganun ang sasabihin ng services center, nilalagay na nila sa hukay ang business nila, and how come ang daming konzert akong nakikita na pang bugbugan sa mga streets natin ang videoke pero okay naman. maybe that technician is galit or wanted you to try another brand which they carry. one thing is maybe baka hindi sapat ng salary nya thats why he told you that. you might also want to ask other opinion rather than being bias to one.

also try pilyo's amp theyre the best bibili nga ako pag uwi ko here from abroad hehe!
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: airsupplyjp on Jan 26, 2011 at 06:53 PM
...pati nga salesman dun sa ______ appliance center yun ang sabi sa'kin nung sinabihan ko na ang bilis nasira yung Konzert 502a na binili ko sakinala wala pa 1 month.. sabi nya ganun daw tlaga sakit ng Konzert na nasisira yung left channels.. dalhin ko daw sa pioneer service center, madali lang daw ayusin yun. tapos ngayon, ang problema you have to wait for two weeks bago ma repair nila. at di pa sigurado yun.  :-[
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: modernaudioconcept on Jan 26, 2011 at 07:10 PM
Conzert av502 3,200 pesos sa raon
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Jan 27, 2011 at 06:37 AM
...pati nga salesman dun sa ______ appliance center yun ang sabi sa'kin nung sinabihan ko na ang bilis nasira yung Konzert 502a na binili ko sakinala wala pa 1 month.. sabi nya ganun daw tlaga sakit ng Konzert na nasisira yung left channels.. dalhin ko daw sa pioneer service center, madali lang daw ayusin yun. tapos ngayon, ang problema you have to wait for two weeks bago ma repair nila. at di pa sigurado yun.  :-[

hehe nakatawa sabi ni modern baka concert yun hindi konzert baka fake yung nakuha u, pati pala china amp cclone na rin hehe!

but anyway if thats the case sana they could address this issues sa maker ng konzert since sila ang service center. but you know what baka sa newer batch na ng konzet 502a amps yun baka bumaba na rin lalo ang quality since recession.

if i remember it right Dai-ichi made the same looking amp iba lang ang brand saw it sa mega sa showroom nila.

well kung if you really want a bang for the buck amp. and your not confident na sa Konzert try Pilyo's amp im sure you will like it, since i sense na your longing for clean power and clarity without the fancy effect's. i my self will visit Marco sa Harison pag uwi ko from the states since palapit lang pala location niya sa haus ko sa pasay.

check it out bro! good luck for the amp hunt!   
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: ATJr. on Jan 27, 2011 at 03:14 PM
...pati nga salesman dun sa ______ appliance center yun ang sabi sa'kin nung sinabihan ko na ang bilis nasira yung Konzert 502a na binili ko sakinala wala pa 1 month.. sabi nya ganun daw tlaga sakit ng Konzert na nasisira yung left channels.. dalhin ko daw sa pioneer service center, madali lang daw ayusin yun. tapos ngayon, ang problema you have to wait for two weeks bago ma repair nila. at di pa sigurado yun.  :-[

yan ang napapala pag nagiispin or hyped ung products, sa totoo lang nasa 80 watts per channel ito 8 ohms ang capacity ng mga yan, base sa power supply nya......

kaya madaling masira, akala ng mga buyers ay talagang high powered....... ;)

yung 80 watts malakas na rin yon.... ;D
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: airsupplyjp on Jan 27, 2011 at 08:39 PM
80 watts per channel? RMS? eh pano yan? sabi kayang kaya yung 4 na 15" 500 watts! tapos 80 watts lang pala ang 502a. by the way, Ks 450v gamit ko dalawa. kc yun ang recommendation nila, ibig sabihin ba nyan dinadaya tau?
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: Dilbert7 on Jan 27, 2011 at 08:44 PM
I have konzert 502A for 4 years already - its being used abusingly for outside sound reinforcement - it is still in good health! Though I saw the specs in the alibaba web nila, 80Wrms nga, but I wonder with 8 Tosh transistor inside, I wonder what they are for. At one time, I measure the tranny's voltage - not really low for an 80-watt I quip at that time though I cant remember anymore the measurement.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: airsupplyjp on Jan 27, 2011 at 09:44 PM
.. :( in less than a month my Konzert 502a needed repair already.. di ko nman inabuso pag gamit tamang tama lang nman ang volume ko. I'll try sakura av 737 next time... what do you think?  >:( ayoko na kc sa Konzert
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Jan 28, 2011 at 10:51 AM
.. :( in less than a month my Konzert 502a needed repair already.. di ko nman inabuso pag gamit tamang tama lang nman ang volume ko. I'll try sakura av 737 next time... what do you think?  >:( ayoko na kc sa Konzert

its bad you got a lemon, anyways 80watts is the real conservative power ng 502a (acc to sir TonyT) and i believe him. kase we had a JVC old school amp i forgot the model, with 4 diamond transistor at the back na may cover lang. and pretty much yung loudness is the same as the 502a, if not much louder pa nga. driving 12" 3 way system namin na pioneer. pero anyways back to topic.

konzert i think was before may quality ang products nila kasi compare ko dati yung sub na naka kabit sa car namin, 12" na may butas yung magnet sa gitna and double coil, was really loud bihirap pa fake noon 1993. and yun alpine V12 na orig talaga ang nag ddrive and i can say dun halos na bingi yung cuz ko kaka patugtog ng "my cadillac has a bass" hehe!   
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: askalmaster on Jan 31, 2011 at 11:20 PM
Quote
hay nko.. sakit pala talaga nang Konzert Av 502a ang masira yung left channels!   yun ang sabi sa'kin nung sales person sa sm. at yung tga sa Pioneer Service center mismo! di na ko bibili ng Konzert sa susunod.. wala pa isang buwan di ko man lang na enjoy mag Konzert. tgal pa nman nila mag ayos, 2 weeks daw! at di pa sigurado yun ha. binili ko Dec. 19, 2010, nasira ng January 13, 2011.. naging parang radio station na out of tune. naman!

heheh... actually iisa ang authorized distributor ng Pioneer, konzert, whafardale, klipsch, etc...
nagpapaligsahan sila ng sales under one roof... Zamony Venture Corp... wala lang talagang official
service center ang konzert unlike pioneer... kaya kung sa pioneer ka magpapa-service ay medyo
may maririnig ka talaga... imposible namang sabihin nilang konzert na lang bilhin mo wag ng pioneer...

hindi talaga maiiwasan yung mga lemon products... kaya suwertihan at depende sa gumagamit din...
at napapansin ko rin sa mga malls like sm or abenson na may mga designated salesman sa bawat
brand... kaya paligsahan din sila ng sales din siguro... imo lang ha... ^_^
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Feb 01, 2011 at 02:34 AM
heheh... actually iisa ang authorized distributor ng Pioneer, konzert, whafardale, klipsch, etc...
nagpapaligsahan sila ng sales under one roof... Zamony Venture Corp... wala lang talagang official
service center ang konzert unlike pioneer... kaya kung sa pioneer ka magpapa-service ay medyo
may maririnig ka talaga... imposible namang sabihin nilang konzert na lang bilhin mo wag ng pioneer...

hindi talaga maiiwasan yung mga lemon products... kaya suwertihan at depende sa gumagamit din...
at napapansin ko rin sa mga malls like sm or abenson na may mga designated salesman sa bawat
brand... kaya paligsahan din sila ng sales din siguro... imo lang ha... ^_^


101% agree ako dito!
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: plapoy on Feb 07, 2011 at 01:06 PM
Mga Sir noob here,

I owned an old konzert 502A. ask ko lang po kung ano yung totoong impedance at wattage ng A and B channel nito.. I recently bought a polk audio RTi A3.. since wala pa po ako budget for a branded receiver (onkyo 608), gusto ko po ihook yung speaker dun sa 502A.. pwede po kaya?. yung impedance po ng speaker is 8ohms, 20-150w per channel.. kaya po kaya ihandle ng speaker ko yung wattage ng 502A? . if hindi po pwede.. i'm aiming the dayton t-amp as a substitute temporarily.. pwede rin po kaya un?.. thanks po sa mga reply nyo and more power to pdvd.. :D
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Feb 08, 2011 at 04:13 AM
Mga Sir noob here,

I owned an old konzert 502A. ask ko lang po kung ano yung totoong impedance at wattage ng A and B channel nito.. I recently bought a polk audio RTi A3.. since wala pa po ako budget for a branded receiver (onkyo 608), gusto ko po ihook yung speaker dun sa 502A.. pwede po kaya?. yung impedance po ng speaker is 8ohms, 20-150w per channel.. kaya po kaya ihandle ng speaker ko yung wattage ng 502A? . if hindi po pwede.. i'm aiming the dayton t-amp as a substitute temporarily.. pwede rin po kaya un?.. thanks po sa mga reply nyo and more power to pdvd.. :D

yes you can hook it up, my 502a is actually hooked up with by old BS Euros 8 for mixing with MAC.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: plapoy on Feb 08, 2011 at 04:45 AM


Thanks for the info sir Hattori, by the way, do you have any idea regarding the wattage of 502A can produce? natatakot kasi ako baka sobrang wattage yung binibigay ng amp baka magkaroon ng damage dun sa speaker ko.. TIA..
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Feb 09, 2011 at 03:53 AM

Thanks for the info sir Hattori, by the way, do you have any idea regarding the wattage of 502A can produce? natatakot kasi ako baka sobrang wattage yung binibigay ng amp baka magkaroon ng damage dun sa speaker ko.. TIA..

in reality its just 80wpc conservative.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: plapoy on Feb 09, 2011 at 02:44 PM
in reality its just 80wpc conservative.

Ok po salamat po ulit sir hattorri, I'll give it a try. I also got the dayton dta-1 from watt hifi.. salamat po ulit..  :D
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: vhinx on Feb 09, 2011 at 08:08 PM
Hello po... Newbie oa ako dito at marami po ako natutunan dito sa pinoyDVD regarding sa sound set up at full info... I would like to ask kasi po merun ako Konzert 502 at paano ko po kaya magagawa amp ko na brigde type na ilalagay o para sa sub woofer, Salamat po...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Feb 09, 2011 at 10:51 PM
Hello po... Newbie oa ako dito at marami po ako natutunan dito sa pinoyDVD regarding sa sound set up at full info... I would like to ask kasi po merun ako Konzert 502 at paano ko po kaya magagawa amp ko na brigde type na ilalagay o para sa sub woofer, Salamat po...

you cant bridge 502a, (mono amp) pwede dawalang subwoofer. but if you know how to fiddle the innards of your 502a. ask some instructions first, before your damage your 502a. sayang yan kahit 3,5k lang yan. 
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: vhinx on Feb 10, 2011 at 09:22 AM
Salamat po sa feedback sir Hattori, merun po ako nabasa sa ibang website na pwede mo daw gamitin yung left & right channel ng amplifier or any dual mono daw sa Dual voice coil DVC na subwoofer speaker, Tama po ba ito na pwede yung Konzert ko or any amp.???
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Feb 10, 2011 at 09:35 AM
Pardon the ignorance guys,
anong modelo ng Konzert ang 5.1 na AVR,..?

May website ba sila,..?

ABC
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: plapoy on Feb 10, 2011 at 09:48 AM
Salamat po sa feedback sir Hattori, merun po ako nabasa sa ibang website na pwede mo daw gamitin yung left & right channel ng amplifier or any dual mono daw sa Dual voice coil DVC na subwoofer speaker, Tama po ba ito na pwede yung Konzert ko or any amp.???

Sir try mo yung pilyo amp.. ask mo muna si sir marco pilyo.. nagbebenta sya ng amp para sa subwoofer.. tingin ko pwede sya gamitin dun sa rca na superbass then connected to pilyo amp. dun nka connect yung subs mo..
hindi ko pa sya natry pero tingin ko pwede.. pag nakabili nako post ko feedback ko kung ok sya..
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: vhinx on Feb 10, 2011 at 10:08 AM
Sir try mo yung pilyo amp.. ask mo muna si sir marco pilyo.. nagbebenta sya ng amp para sa subwoofer.. tingin ko pwede sya gamitin dun sa rca na superbass then connected to pilyo amp. dun nka connect yung subs mo..
hindi ko pa sya natry pero tingin ko pwede.. pag nakabili nako post ko feedback ko kung ok sya..

Sir Plapoy, Nabasa ko din po yung forum ni sir marcopilyo at nakita ko din po yung advise nya sa isa member natin na kung paano mag wiring set up sa DVC na subwoofer speaker using yung amp4v2 power amp nya. Dami po positive comments sa kanya sa lakas at ganda ng mga for sale nya sounds gadiets... and I have plan din po na bumili sa gamit nya at nag inquire na din ako.

Paki post na lang po sir kung na set up mo din yun gagawin mo para magawa ko din po sa akin. Salamat po.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: vhinx on Feb 10, 2011 at 10:14 AM
Pardon the ignorance guys,
anong modelo ng Konzert ang 5.1 na AVR,..?

May website ba sila,..?

ABC

Sir ABC, Hindi ko po alam sa Konzert eh. BTW, ayan po yung website ng sakura updated na po yan at marami po kayo mapipili dyan na gusto nyo. Hope makatulung sa inquiry nyo.

http://sakura.com.ph/products/
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: plapoy on Feb 10, 2011 at 10:21 AM
Sir Plapoy, Nabasa ko din po yung forum ni sir marcopilyo at nakita ko din po yung advise nya sa isa member natin na kung paano mag wiring set up sa DVC na subwoofer speaker using yung amp4v2 power amp nya. Dami po positive comments sa kanya sa lakas at ganda ng mga for sale nya sounds gadiets... and I have plan din po na bumili sa gamit nya at nag inquire na din ako.

Paki post na lang po sir kung na set up mo din yun gagawin mo para magawa ko din po sa akin. Salamat po.

Ok no problem. I've been to his place sa pasay. kasi dun ko binili yung subs ko na jbl gt5.. then pinakita nya rin sakin kung pano gumawa ng ported na box para sa subs.. ayun gumawa ako ng sariling box kasi masyadong mabigat yung box kung bibilhin ko sa kanya.. :) sobrang lakas nung amp nya parang guguho yung bahay nya.. hehe.. you can't go wrong with that amp.. search ka lang sa sulit at makikita mo yung mga products nya.. happy hunting bro.. :D

Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: vhinx on Feb 10, 2011 at 10:41 AM
Ok no problem. I've been to his place sa pasay. kasi dun ko binili yung subs ko na jbl gt5.. then pinakita nya rin sakin kung pano gumawa ng ported na box para sa subs.. ayun gumawa ako ng sariling box kasi masyadong mabigat yung box kung bibilhin ko sa kanya.. :) sobrang lakas nung amp nya parang guguho yung bahay nya.. hehe.. you can't go wrong with that amp.. search ka lang sa sulit at makikita mo yung mga products nya.. happy hunting bro.. :D



Acknowledge Sir,... Ask ko lang po, Same price pa din po ba yung Amp4v2 amp nya (3,500Php) at 12" JBL (1,999.00Php) subwoofer speaker nya?
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: plapoy on Feb 10, 2011 at 02:40 PM
Acknowledge Sir,... Ask ko lang po, Same price pa din po ba yung Amp4v2 amp nya (3,500Php) at 12" JBL (1,999.00Php) subwoofer speaker nya?

yung 3,500 ata bro wala pang casing yun.. amp lang mismo.. mag add ka ata ng 2k for casing including na yung mga fan, speaker connector.. etc, check mo na lang yung site nya sa sulit. google mo lang marco pilyo..  Yung subs nya nagmura na ngayon.. dati kuha ko dun 2k+ pa.. un..
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: vhinx on Feb 10, 2011 at 03:30 PM
yung 3,500 ata bro wala pang casing yun.. amp lang mismo.. mag add ka ata ng 2k for casing including na yung mga fan, speaker connector.. etc, check mo na lang yung site nya sa sulit. google mo lang marco pilyo..  Yung subs nya nagmura na ngayon.. dati kuha ko dun 2k+ pa.. un..

Same price pa din daw bro yung Amp4v2 at ang hind ko lang natanung kung naka case na ba, di bale kaya ko na gawan ng case, fan at volume control amp nya... 3,999.00 pa din daw yung JBL GT5 Subwoofer speaker nya.

Salamat sir...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Feb 11, 2011 at 03:19 AM
Konzert 502a amp hooked on Euros 8 BS for mixing.
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC_0375.jpg)

Imagine since 2004 (7 years) still this amp plays loud it been out playing 12" speakers (New Years and parties) it been played soft for (children going to sleep) Videoke and all of you can ever imagine, just hooked them up properly (never go down to 4 ohms) still they built like a tank, but as light as a feather hehe! super satisfied ako rito sa amp na to.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: plapoy on Feb 11, 2011 at 02:40 PM
Konzert 502a amp hooked on Euros 8 BS for mixing.
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC_0375.jpg)

Imagine since 2004 (7 years) still this amp plays loud it been out playing 12" speakers (New Years and parties) it been played soft for (children going to sleep) Videoke and all of you can ever imagine, just hooked them up properly (never go down to 4 ohms) still they built like a tank, but as light as a feather hehe! super satisfied ako rito sa amp na to.

Sir Hattori, astig pala nung bookshelf nyo.. anong brand po ba yan?.. By the way sir yung 502A ko dun nakahookup yung 2 12" 4ohms na JBL GT5 ko from sir marco pilyo.. kayang kaya po nya idrive kahit 4 ohms.. hindi naman po ako nadisappoint.. hehe..

Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Feb 12, 2011 at 04:16 AM
Euros 8 BS lang yan bro.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Feb 12, 2011 at 09:47 AM
Sir ABC, Hindi ko po alam sa Konzert eh. BTW, ayan po yung website ng sakura updated na po yan at marami po kayo mapipili dyan na gusto nyo. Hope makatulung sa inquiry nyo.

http://sakura.com.ph/products/

Thank you,...

I just called DEECO here in Cabanatuan and asked if they have the Konzert 5.1 available,
meron sila, its priced at 3500, a friend of mine is looking kasi for a budget unit,
I guess this will suffice for now for him...

Cheers,...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: rabmike on Apr 24, 2011 at 11:34 PM
Mga boss, pwede po ba yung konzert 502a sa 400watts na 18" woofer? crown HW-1804 yung brand/model.

ang hina kasi nung woofer na yan sa 180 watts na amp, malakas pa yata yung 8" (50 watts woofer) ko na two way nung sabay sila naka-connect.

pero bago ko binili yan sa raon, malakas talaga ito noong tinesting(wala pang box). wala pa sa kalahati yung volume talo na yung 15" na katabi niya. nagvivibrate pa yung woofer nato. pero sa amp ko sa bahay hindi. di ko matandaan yung amp na ginamit nila. parang kamukha ng  konzert or sakura lang yung naalala ko.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: pigeonowl on May 10, 2011 at 08:39 PM
Mga bossing,

kabibili ko lang po ng Konzert 502A, and KS550 ang speaker na nabili ko, satisfied naman po ako after 5 hours running, may dati po akong speaker na amplified, yung nabibili sa banketa, pwede ko po ba ihook ito, at saan pwede ihook?

Tnx po...newbie kasi eh...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: plapoy on May 10, 2011 at 10:50 PM
Mga bossing,

kabibili ko lang po ng Konzert 502A, and KS550 ang speaker na nabili ko, satisfied naman po ako after 5 hours running, may dati po akong speaker na amplified, yung nabibili sa banketa, pwede ko po ba ihook ito, at saan pwede ihook?

Tnx po...newbie kasi eh...

Sir rabmike, suggestion ko dito is tanggalin nyo na lang yung speaker sa amp.. then hooked it directly to the konzert amp.. just make sure you dont cranked up the volume too much baka hindi kayanin nung speaker nyo yung lakas nung amp.




Mga boss, pwede po ba yung konzert 502a sa 400watts na 18" woofer? crown HW-1804 yung brand/model.

ang hina kasi nung woofer na yan sa 180 watts na amp, malakas pa yata yung 8" (50 watts woofer) ko na two way nung sabay sila naka-connect.

pero bago ko binili yan sa raon, malakas talaga ito noong tinesting(wala pang box). wala pa sa kalahati yung volume talo na yung 15" na katabi niya. nagvivibrate pa yung woofer nato. pero sa amp ko sa bahay hindi. di ko matandaan yung amp na ginamit nila. parang kamukha ng  konzert or sakura lang yung naalala ko.

Sir pigeon, pwedeng pwede yan.. check nyo lang yung impedance nung speaker kung 8 ohm. pwede.. pro kung 4 ohm yan.. masyadong mahihirapan amp nyo.. un.. yung gamit ko sa konzert ko is 2 12" na 4ohm each.. 1200rms ata un na jbl.. kayang kaya naman kahit half yung volume ko.. pro syempre delikado pa din un.. mas ok kung 8ohm talaga.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: pigeonowl on May 17, 2011 at 07:44 PM
Sir Plaboy,

Yes i tried, ok ang buga niya, but then hindi ko pa todo ang lakas kasi natatakot ako, if ever gusto ko palakasin, anong specs ng speaker ang pwede ko idagdag, wattage wise and ohms...tnx sa info sir....kasi inis lang talaga ako sa kapitbahay ko, hilig mambulabog, ayun siya na tuloy umatras sakin, pero gusto ko dagdagan ng woofer para malakas ang bayo...

Pigeonowl
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: plapoy on May 17, 2011 at 11:41 PM
Sir Plaboy,

Yes i tried, ok ang buga niya, but then hindi ko pa todo ang lakas kasi natatakot ako, if ever gusto ko palakasin, anong specs ng speaker ang pwede ko idagdag, wattage wise and ohms...tnx sa info sir....kasi inis lang talaga ako sa kapitbahay ko, hilig mambulabog, ayun siya na tuloy umatras sakin, pero gusto ko dagdagan ng woofer para malakas ang bayo...

Pigeonowl

Sir ano po ba yung box na gamit nyo 18" nyo? baka naman pag pinalitan ng box mas gumanda ang gapang ng bass kesa bumili pa ulit kayo ng another subs. if ever na gusto nyo talaga dagdagan ng woofer. get another 18" na same brand and model para balance sya.. panget kasi kung kukuha ka mas maliit or ibang brand IMHO.





Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: pigeonowl on May 18, 2011 at 06:27 PM
12" lang po yung size niya, pero wala kasi nakalagay na wattage nor ohms impedance, kaya gusto ko palitan...tnx for the reply...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: plapoy on May 18, 2011 at 06:51 PM
12" lang po yung size niya, pero wala kasi nakalagay na wattage nor ohms impedance, kaya gusto ko palitan...tnx for the reply...

Ah ok po sir.. sorry kay sir rabmike ata yung nakita ko 18"..:D

Check this thread
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,122822.90.html

jan ko binili yung 12" jbl gt5 ko kay sir pilyo.. mga less 2k ata per piece ng sub nya.. un..
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: pigeonowl on May 18, 2011 at 07:05 PM
no problem sir, salamat sa info, nakita ko yung link, wala lang picture...totoo ba yung ibang posts na 80W per channel lang pala yung Av502A?
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: plapoy on May 18, 2011 at 07:31 PM
no problem sir, salamat sa info, nakita ko yung link, wala lang picture...totoo ba yung ibang posts na 80W per channel lang pala yung Av502A?

Sa page 1 yung mga pic na sir... actually hindi ko rin lam yung wattage ng konzert per channel kasi baka nga 80w lang sya.. pero kasi kya nya magdrive ng mas mataas na wattage na speaker un..
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: pigeonowl on May 18, 2011 at 07:41 PM
tama, sa tingin ko mas mataas nga sa 80W, not sure if kakayanin speaker ko, pero habang tumatagal mas gumaganda naman ang sounds niya, ang worry ko lang, hanggang 10 o'clock lang inabot ko sa volume, takot ako bumigay yung speaker eh...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: plapoy on May 18, 2011 at 10:30 PM
tama, sa tingin ko mas mataas nga sa 80W, not sure if kakayanin speaker ko, pero habang tumatagal mas gumaganda naman ang sounds niya, ang worry ko lang, hanggang 10 o'clock lang inabot ko sa volume, takot ako bumigay yung speaker eh...

Yup.. Wag nyo pwersahin sir.. Kapag bitin pa din kayo sa sounds.. Palit na lang kayo speaker sir yung mas mataas wattage..
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: pigeonowl on May 19, 2011 at 07:42 PM
Thats good to know, oo nga, palit nalang ako ng mas mataas ang wattage but same impedance.....
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: plapoy on May 19, 2011 at 08:44 PM
Thats good to know, oo nga, palit nalang ako ng mas mataas ang wattage but same impedance.....

Yup! ;)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: iamlawrence on May 30, 2011 at 08:18 AM
Up lang mga ser...

Ano masasabi nyo sa Konzert AV-301.
May nagbigay lang kasi sakin and gusto ko sana malaman kung sino ang may experience na sa inyo nitong unit na ito.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: plapoy on Jun 07, 2011 at 04:01 PM
Up lang mga ser...

Ano masasabi nyo sa Konzert AV-301.
May nagbigay lang kasi sakin and gusto ko sana malaman kung sino ang may experience na sa inyo nitong unit na ito.

Thanks!


I think its a baby brother of the 502... mas lower lang yung wattage nya.. 300w ata sya.. ang mga konzert na avr palaban talaga yan.. kaya nya mgdrive ng 4ohms na speaker based on my experience.. syempre.. wag lang natin masyadong abusuhin.. kasi baka bumigay din dahil mas malaking power yung binibigay nya to drive them..
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: iamlawrence on Jun 12, 2011 at 12:46 PM

I think its a baby brother of the 502... mas lower lang yung wattage nya.. 300w ata sya.. ang mga konzert na avr palaban talaga yan.. kaya nya mgdrive ng 4ohms na speaker based on my experience.. syempre.. wag lang natin masyadong abusuhin.. kasi baka bumigay din dahil mas malaking power yung binibigay nya to drive them..

Salamat Ser, Nagtataka lang ako hindi masyado maganda tumunog sa speakers ko hehehe... baka lang mas mababa yung specs ng speaker ko compared sa AVR na ito.

Naghahanap den ako ngayon ng specs ng AVR na to para mabalanse ko yung sa speakers naman.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: vectormaniac on Jun 12, 2011 at 04:57 PM
went to sm last week, hinahanap ko yung nakita kong kss10 and konzert 502 kaya lang wala na, pinalitan na daw nila ng xenon. sa pioneer pa ren daw yung warranty same sa konzert.

iisa lang kaya yung konzert and xenon? hinahanap ko kasi yung website ng xenon nagandahan kasi ako sa tunug kaya lang wala akong makita.

pinakinggan ko yung demo nila yung 450watts loudspeaker connected sa 400w amp, lahat xenon ang tatak. ok naman buong buo yung tunog pati yung kalansing ng tweeters. great for home use. parehas lang yung quote sakin tulad ng kss10 at 502 combi.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: plapoy on Jun 13, 2011 at 04:25 AM
Salamat Ser, Nagtataka lang ako hindi masyado maganda tumunog sa speakers ko hehehe... baka lang mas mababa yung specs ng speaker ko compared sa AVR na ito.

Naghahanap den ako ngayon ng specs ng AVR na to para mabalanse ko yung sa speakers naman.

hmm.. ano po ba gamit nyo speaker sir?.. maybe s speaker po yung problem nyo not the avr..  try to use other speakers if you have one..
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: iamlawrence on Jun 13, 2011 at 10:43 PM
Kasama lang to nung binigay ng uncle ko ser. baka nga hindi tama yung wattage or ohms na kelangan ko. diko din kasi alam ang specs ng AVR kaya di ko alam kung anong setup ang maganda dito sa Konzert ko. Yung nakalagay ngayon is RCA 31/2" 2 way speaker 8ohms with a power handling of 50W(RMS) 100W max. model XTS-60AV. Tapos dinagdagan ko lang ng 4 na Aiwa SX-AV1900 85W/8ohms.

hmm.. ano po ba gamit nyo speaker sir?.. maybe s speaker po yung problem nyo not the avr..  try to use other speakers if you have one..
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: plapoy on Jun 14, 2011 at 04:55 AM
Kasama lang to nung binigay ng uncle ko ser. baka nga hindi tama yung wattage or ohms na kelangan ko. diko din kasi alam ang specs ng AVR kaya di ko alam kung anong setup ang maganda dito sa Konzert ko. Yung nakalagay ngayon is RCA 31/2" 2 way speaker 8ohms with a power handling of 50W(RMS) 100W max. model XTS-60AV. Tapos dinagdagan ko lang ng 4 na Aiwa SX-AV1900 85W/8ohms.


hmm.. based naman po sa spec ng speaker ko.. i think tama lang sya.. i think less than 100w per channel ok yan.. hindi kasi definite yung spec ng konzert.. some says that 85w per channel lang sya (av502).. other says 500w per channel. pro safe na siguro yan speakers nyo sir.. try to backread this thread i think mi makikita kayo regarding sa setup ng iba nating bros dito..
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: iamlawrence on Jun 14, 2011 at 08:44 AM
hmm.. based naman po sa spec ng speaker ko.. i think tama lang sya.. i think less than 100w per channel ok yan.. hindi kasi definite yung spec ng konzert.. some says that 85w per channel lang sya (av502).. other says 500w per channel. pro safe na siguro yan speakers nyo sir.. try to backread this thread i think mi makikita kayo regarding sa setup ng iba nating bros dito..

Sige sir! Salamat na madami...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: drachx on Aug 31, 2011 at 06:54 AM
hello,

ano ba mas ok yung konzert amp or yung may mixer na?


tia
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: vhinx on Aug 31, 2011 at 07:29 AM
hello,

ano ba mas ok yung konzert amp or yung may mixer na?


tia

Depende sa pag gamit mo brader,. with mixer is better if use for videoke.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: drachx on Aug 31, 2011 at 07:54 AM
thanks
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: ruel.dagooc on Sep 21, 2011 at 02:26 PM
Hi po sa expert may nabili po akong konzert av-302 at ipinares ko sa luma kong speaker sony 100w 6 ohms. Ang tanong ko po is ok lang po ba yon? Di po ba masisira yong speaker ko lalo na itotodo sa lakas? Maraming salamat po sa magreply.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: plapoy on Sep 21, 2011 at 08:04 PM
Hi po sa expert may nabili po akong konzert av-302 at ipinares ko sa luma kong speaker sony 100w 6 ohms. Ang tanong ko po is ok lang po ba yon? Di po ba masisira yong speaker ko lalo na itotodo sa lakas? Maraming salamat po sa magreply.

ok lang po yan sir.. wag nyo lang itodo msyado.. masisira talaga yan..  ;D
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: ruel.dagooc on Sep 22, 2011 at 07:26 AM
yay, ganun po ba? Bibili na lang siguro ako pag nasira. Hehehe.. Yong KS-252V/KS-350V/KS-450V/KSS-10 na po ang ipapares ko. Yong kasi ang suggestion dito.. Yon daw ang pupwede sa AV-302 ko.. Anyways maraming salamat po sir. ;). Sir may isa pa akong tanong, ok na po ba yong megakara sa pangvideoke sir? Kasi yong mga napapag-uusapan dito na mga player is parang di po available sa aming lugar.. Taga davao city po kasi ako eh.. Wala po akong nakikitang ganyan po na mga model aside from karavision, megavision at megapro kaso lang wala na ring mga stocks dito.. what do you think sir? Or kung mga mai-suggest ka na mga other brands sir baka meron po yan dito.. :)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: plapoy on Sep 22, 2011 at 12:09 PM
yay, ganun po ba? Bibili na lang siguro ako pag nasira. Hehehe.. Yong KS-252V/KS-350V/KS-450V/KSS-10 na po ang ipapares ko. Yong kasi ang suggestion dito.. Yon daw ang pupwede sa AV-302 ko.. Anyways maraming salamat po sir. ;). Sir may isa pa akong tanong, ok na po ba yong megakara sa pangvideoke sir? Kasi yong mga napapag-uusapan dito na mga player is parang di po available sa aming lugar.. Taga davao city po kasi ako eh.. Wala po akong nakikitang ganyan po na mga model aside from karavision, megavision at megapro kaso lang wala na ring mga stocks dito.. what do you think sir? Or kung mga mai-suggest ka na mga other brands sir baka meron po yan dito.. :)

yung mga model po ng speaker na yan.. pwedeng pwede po yan.. since konzert din po yan.. ;) dun sa player.. hindi ako masyadong familiar sa mga brand ng player for videoke.. pro kung nkakapagplay ng maraming format.. ok na yun.. basta decent na player sya at maganda tignan... ok na yun.. ;D intay mo lang ibang suggestion ng mga gurus natin dito..


Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: 4ezee4 on Oct 26, 2011 at 06:19 PM
Sirs,

Newbie here....I am a landscaper by profession. I have had installed several sound system sa mga gardens ng mga clients ko (mid-high end), actually, hindi ako nag-install...meron nagpupunta sa binilhan ko to install the system. I'm trying to package now landscaping and outdoor sound system installation (pang ambient sounds lang), madami kasi namamahalan dun sa mga una kong na-setup (actually ako din). I have clients that are really in a budget. I was able to get a quote from a a/v store near my place for a budget system that I am planning to set-up sa isang project. I will be installing 2 - 2 way, 6.5" 8 ohms dai-ichi rock speakers (200w each) and 2 - 2 way, 8" 8ohms rock speakers (300w each). In total 1000w. To power it up, ito yung nasa quotation: Konzert AV-502A, Media Player (cd,usb) pioneer daw, Konzert Equalizer (hindi nakalagay yung model). Question: Okay po ba yang set-up na yan kahit pa-paano eh hindi ako mapapahiya? If ever kailangan dagdagan ng speakers, kakayanin pa ba ng amp? San sa Raon nakakabili na trusted store? (medyo mataas quote sa akin compared sa mga prices na nakita ko dito). Thank you so much!!!! You can send me an email also PLEASE!!!! [email protected]
Title: Re: Konzert AVR for musical instruments
Post by: jerix on Dec 10, 2011 at 06:20 PM
I am thinking of buying a electric bass guitar -- can i plug this to my Konzert 502?  ::)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: markcrenz on Dec 10, 2011 at 07:20 PM
yes
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: jerix on Dec 10, 2011 at 08:13 PM
ah ok Bro Mark - I thought hindi pwede at kelangan ko pa bumili ng separate amp for the bass guitar.Thanks  ;D
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: markcrenz on Dec 10, 2011 at 08:23 PM
ah ok Bro Mark - I thought hindi pwede at kelangan ko pa bumili ng separate amp for the bass guitar.Thanks  ;D
basta easy lang muna sa mic volume control. no echo should sound better.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: CARLITOCOOL on Jan 04, 2012 at 03:54 PM
Happy New Year guys!

I'm planning to set-up a Stereo/Disco mobile in my living room. I'm looking for a high-powered budget amp.

I will be getting a pair of Wharfdale Pro Titan 12. Will the konzert av502 be enough to power these?

How is the sound quality?

How much is the Konzert av502 nowadays?

TIA
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: jerix on Jan 05, 2012 at 06:42 PM
Happy New Year guys!

I'm planning to set-up a Stereo/Disco mobile in my living room. I'm looking for a high-powered budget amp.

I will be getting a pair of Wharfdale Pro Titan 12. Will the konzert av502 be enough to power these?

How is the sound quality?

How much is the Konzert av502 nowadays?

TIA

500w per channel can sufficiently drive your wharfedale i think. I recently sold my Konzert 502a and scout for a much powerful karaoke amp. but when i compared the 502 side by side with other karaoke amps in the shop it seems that the 502 is still better. so i bought the same model again  ;D I think its 4k +
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: benjmark18 on Jan 12, 2012 at 12:45 PM
Sir i have a died sub 5.1 klipsch promedia speaker system, question ko po pde ko bang gamitin na lang yung 5 satellites at bilhan ng receiver yung konzert 502a ba pwede na?, rated po yung speaker ng 60 watts each and 6 ohms impedance

tapos bili na lng ako ng kss10? yung speaker sub ng klipsch ko tatapon lang ba yun? di na ma revive yun since sira na yung board/amp nun

salamat po sa makakatulong tight budget din.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: badoy on Jan 12, 2012 at 01:43 PM
@benjmark18
pede mo yan gamitin sa 502 pero medyo control nlang sa volume. yung klipsch sub mo baka naman pede mo convert or lagyan mo ng sub amp sa loob para magamit mo pa. wag mong itapon
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: benjmark18 on Jan 12, 2012 at 03:01 PM
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@benjmark18
pede mo yan gamitin sa 502 pero medyo control nlang sa volume. yung klipsch sub mo baka naman pede mo convert or lagyan mo ng sub amp sa loob para magamit mo pa. wag mong itapon

sub amp? paano po gawin yun? may gumagawa ba nun? may nabibili bang buo na nun ilalagay na lang sa sub box ng klipsch? so parang ma re-revive pa pala siya? kala ko kc disposable na yun kc na try ko na ipa repair sabi wala na raw mahanap na parts para sa board. Sorry wala me alam when it comes to audio kaya po nagtatanong ako dito hehehe

Thanks
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: plapoy on Jan 12, 2012 at 03:12 PM
sub amp? paano po gawin yun? may gumagawa ba nun? may nabibili bang buo na nun ilalagay na lang sa sub box ng klipsch? so parang ma re-revive pa pala siya? kala ko kc disposable na yun kc na try ko na ipa repair sabi wala na raw mahanap na parts para sa board. Sorry wala me alam when it comes to audio kaya po nagtatanong ako dito hehehe

Thanks

Sir try to ask sir pilyo168.. meron syang diy amp bka pwede gamitin jan sa promedia sub nyo.. try to look sa market place yung thread nya..

Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: CARLITOCOOL on Jan 12, 2012 at 04:38 PM
500w per channel can sufficiently drive your wharfedale i think. I recently sold my Konzert 502a and scout for a much powerful karaoke amp. but when i compared the 502 side by side with other karaoke amps in the shop it seems that the 502 is still better. so i bought the same model again  ;D I think its 4k +

Thanks

Is it really 500w per channel x 2? Or is it x 4? Coz it seems there is a speaker A + B selector.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: benjmark18 on Jan 12, 2012 at 10:22 PM
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Sir try to ask sir pilyo168.. meron syang diy amp bka pwede gamitin jan sa promedia sub nyo.. try to look sa market place yung thread nya..

naku ganun po pala buti me tumulong try ko na lang mag inquire kay sir pilyo sana mura at magawan ng paraan hehehe

thanks
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: benjmark18 on Jan 14, 2012 at 09:12 AM
sir ask ko lang din kasi yung 5 satellites ko palibhasa pc speaker kasi yun it uses speaker wire cable (not rca) paano ko ikakabit yun sa konzert 502a? bale satellites (speaker wire)=konzert avr then papunta sa pc? eh wala namn kabitan ng speaker wires sa konzert avr rca lang diba?
Title: Re:Konzert AVR
Post by: sardinas_027 on Jan 14, 2012 at 09:55 AM
mga pre! eh yung sakura na receiver ok rin ba?

dusto ka sana bumili ng konzert 502,, alin mg mganda sakura av735 or konzert alin ms mlakas at ms matibay
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: plapoy on Jan 15, 2012 at 09:37 AM
sir ask ko lang din kasi yung 5 satellites ko palibhasa pc speaker kasi yun it uses speaker wire cable (not rca) paano ko ikakabit yun sa konzert 502a? bale satellites (speaker wire)=konzert avr then papunta sa pc? eh wala namn kabitan ng speaker wires sa konzert avr rca lang diba?

Mas maganda kung may pic ka sir.. pra mkita ntin diiff.. Pro i think kelangan mo na icut ung dulo nung wire pra bare na wire
na sya.. then ska mo na ikabit sa 502.. Sa connection nman sa pc.. kelangan mo lng ng rca na yung kbilng dulo ay 3.5 standard jack.. post ajo ng sample pic later..
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: biogenicnyo on Jan 16, 2012 at 10:29 PM
sir hatori_hanzo ..

.gudday ahm ask ko lang po kung nsa ukit po ba ng tatak ng konzert, malalaman kung fake or. hindi?bumili po kasi ako. sa "automatic center" .palubog po ba o pataas ang ukit. at ung mga pic nyo po. anung dAte po manufactures. ang iniisip ko po kasi bka depende sa manufactured date.

(http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s414/biogenicnyo/Picture007.jpg)
(http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s414/biogenicnyo/Picture006.jpg)
(http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s414/biogenicnyo/Picture005.jpg)
(http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s414/biogenicnyo/Picture004.jpg)
(http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s414/biogenicnyo/Picture003.jpg)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: biogenicnyo on Jan 17, 2012 at 12:26 AM
.mga boss pacheck naman po post ko. please. hindi ko po kasi alam kung dapat akong magduda ee. thanks . !
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: plapoy on Jan 17, 2012 at 12:32 AM
^ sa pagkakaalam ko dapat may warranty card na kasama sa box.. pakicheck po kung meron.. try nyo po magbackread dito sa thread na toh. lam ko kasi may mga pic na nag orig na 502 dito.. pro kung sa automatic center nyo naman nabili.. tingin ko orig naman yan..
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: biogenicnyo on Jan 17, 2012 at 02:01 PM
ahm. sir nkita ko po kasi ung mga parts sa loob nung pic sample dito sa thread ..ung "toshiba" na part. wala po un sa loob ng amp ko. at parang iba ung pag kakaayos ng mgaparts. iniisip ko po dahil bka bago. possible po ba na ibang version na sya?..

thanks po..
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: plapoy on Jan 17, 2012 at 05:12 PM
ahm. sir nkita ko po kasi ung mga parts sa loob nung pic sample dito sa thread ..ung "toshiba" na part. wala po un sa loob ng amp ko. at parang iba ung pag kakaayos ng mgaparts. iniisip ko po dahil bka bago. possible po ba na ibang version na sya?..

thanks po..

naka torrodial traffo po ba yan unit nyo?.. hindi po masyadong makita yung loob nung 502 nyo sa pic not sure kung dapat ba naka embose yung logo ng konzert.. pro yung unit ko dati.. naka lubog yung logo nya sa top cover.. same with the pic sa unang thread then mi warranty card sya kasama.. ska toshiba din yung gamit na parts same with the sample pic.. try ko kunan ng pic yung unit ko hindi kona kasi nagagamit.. nakatambak lang sa bahay.. hehe..
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: benjmark18 on Jan 17, 2012 at 05:12 PM
@biogenicnyo

Sir magkano po bili ninyo sa konzert 502a? plan ko din bumili post namn po price para ma compare sa raon price thanks.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: biogenicnyo on Jan 17, 2012 at 05:36 PM
@banchmark.

sir, 3850 kuha ko "automatic center" 4099 orig price, pndscount ko lng.  pero try mu sa "Deeco" 3900 daw dun la pa discount try mu kung kya pa tawaran.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: biogenicnyo on Jan 17, 2012 at 05:40 PM
naka torrodial traffo po ba yan unit nyo?.. hindi po masyadong makita yung loob nung 502 nyo sa pic not sure kung dapat ba naka embose yung logo ng konzert.. pro yung unit ko dati.. naka lubog yung logo nya sa top cover.. same with the pic sa unang thread then mi warranty card sya kasama.. ska toshiba din yung gamit na parts same with the sample pic.. try ko kunan ng pic yung unit ko hindi kona kasi nagagamit.. nakatambak lang sa bahay.. hehe..

.sir plapoy

anu po ung torrodial traffo?.sory sir bago lang po ako sa mga amp at speakers, may warranty card po sya kasama kaso parang blanko walang nkasulat(sabi ng AUtomatic... receipt lang daw klngan kung ipapa-warranty man..) wat year nyo po ba nabili ung sa inyo.. ? thanks po.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: plapoy on Jan 17, 2012 at 06:54 PM
.sir plapoy

anu po ung torrodial traffo?.sory sir bago lang po ako sa mga amp at speakers, may warranty card po sya kasama kaso parang blanko walang nkasulat(sabi ng AUtomatic... receipt lang daw klngan kung ipapa-warranty man..) wat year nyo po ba nabili ung sa inyo.. ? thanks po.

here's what it looks like.. borrowed pic from sir hattorri.. yung black round na malaki..

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC00298.jpg)

nabili ko yung sakin 2010 pa ata.. try to backread sir on the 5th page ata yun.. mi mga pics dun.. ano po ba yung worry nyo sa amp nyo?.. kung orig or hindi?.. ano po bang speaker gagamitin nyo  para dito?.

Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: biogenicnyo on Jan 17, 2012 at 07:00 PM
sir plapoy,

thanks. ahm opo.worry ko ung orig o hindi. although nabili ko sya sa automatic center. meron po ako nun round transfo na sinasabi nyo. . ahm wala pa po akong speaker sa ngayon. ang gamit ko lang po ay speaker ng sony apm-d4 110w (pair) pero sa surround lang po nkasaksak. kasi bka msira pag sa main..thanks .
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: biogenicnyo on Jan 17, 2012 at 07:05 PM
sir plapoy. ahm ung pic po nkita ko na po kya po nagdududa ako sa nbili ko hehe. ewan ko ba. ganto po kasi tlga ako ee. saka npnsin nyo po ung "made in .." nya . sticker lang po. tsk ..posnsya na sir.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: vhinx on Jan 17, 2012 at 07:23 PM
@biogenicnyo

Here are some features para malaman mo Orig yan Konzert-502A:

1) With Konzert Warranty card and Manual
2) Yung tatak na Konzert logo sa upper cover dapat naka angat
3) With Bulky Torroidal transpo (5-6" wide at 2&half taas) and with Konzert mark sticker
4) With FUSE at back (Yung Fake sa Raon wala nun)
5) Less 500php price ng Fake sa Raon.

Check mo din din label marking sa front na kitang-kita at malinaw,. Hope makatulung sa iyo brader... ;)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: plapoy on Jan 17, 2012 at 08:30 PM
ayun.. check mo na lang yung additional feature na pinost ni bro vhinx.. don't worry may warranty naman jan sa automatic center.. i doubt kung magbebenta sila ng fake jan.. pwede din sa main mo ikabit yung speakers mo.. ingat lang sa volume knob.. hehe. masisira talaga yan speakers mo..  ;D

Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 17, 2012 at 08:32 PM
aside from being fake.  ano pa ba ang mga downside ng hindi orig na konzert amp? 
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: vhinx on Jan 17, 2012 at 09:09 PM
sir hatori_hanzo ..

.gudday ahm ask ko lang po kung nsa ukit po ba ng tatak ng konzert, malalaman kung fake or. hindi?bumili po kasi ako. sa "automatic center" .palubog po ba o pataas ang ukit. at ung mga pic nyo po. anung dAte po manufactures. ang iniisip ko po kasi bka depende sa manufactured date.

(http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s414/biogenicnyo/Picture006.jpg)
(http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s414/biogenicnyo/Picture005.jpg)

Napansin ko lang sa back ng konzert na bakit wala sya metal RCA jack jumper for Pre out "EQ" In/Out...


aside from being fake.  ano pa ba ang mga downside ng hindi orig na konzert amp?  

Sa sounds quality nya mahirap mapansin pag kakaiba ng fake sa orig bro kasi same designed circuit and components sila.

Btw, Mas gusto ko performance & durability ng Sakura-AV5024 kesa sa Konzert-AV502A (with almost same specs and wattage) which both I used before for karaoke mode and out door sounds...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: biogenicnyo on Jan 17, 2012 at 10:12 PM
@vhinx.

sir thanks po sa. mga features question pa po. ung sticker po ng "transpo" san po mkikita ?
. at okei lang po ba kung hindi ko nakikita ung "toshiba" na parts dun sa loob.? katulad nung post ni sir hattori hanzo.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: biogenicnyo on Jan 17, 2012 at 10:15 PM
Napansin ko lang sa back ng konzert na bakit wala sya metal RCA jack jumper for Pre out "EQ" In/Out...


sir. iba po ba yan sa red and white na RCA in???
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: vhinx on Jan 17, 2012 at 10:34 PM
@vhinx.

sir thanks po sa. mga features question pa po. ung sticker po ng "transpo" san po mkikita ?
. at okei lang po ba kung hindi ko nakikita ung "toshiba" na parts dun sa loob.? katulad nung post ni sir hattori hanzo.

Sa gilid ng transpo yun bro sa mismo loob yun pag binuksan mo cover bro... ano toshiba parts, baka yung power transistor nya naka lagay sa hitsink.


sir. iba po ba yan sa red and white na RCA in???

Tama yan bro, ibig kung sabihin dapat merun RCA jack na naka jumper sa EQ preout mo...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: biogenicnyo on Jan 17, 2012 at 10:38 PM
@vhinx

sir,

.transistor nga po ba un ?. ? kung itim na may tatlong paa. haha.na nkkbit nga po sa heatsink.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: biogenicnyo on Jan 17, 2012 at 10:40 PM
Tama yan bro, ibig kung sabihin dapat merun RCA jack na naka jumper sa EQ preout mo...

.aa sir paliwanag nyo po kung panu gawin yang sinasabi nyo. sensya po. thanks.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: vhinx on Jan 17, 2012 at 10:46 PM
Ganyan bro... yung nasa loob ng yellow square box

(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQc3bRU_mcR42ujS4ia5boKCaVhPInyTEWUeeHSvzVmNLSO-f4QRw)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: biogenicnyo on Jan 17, 2012 at 10:52 PM
Ganyan bro... yung nasa loob ng yellow square box

(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQc3bRU_mcR42ujS4ia5boKCaVhPInyTEWUeeHSvzVmNLSO-f4QRw)

ah so sir lalagyan ko po ng jack? (hindi po ba para un sa mga mixer?) did u min sir kung walang mixer?., lagayn nun??? thanks po
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: vhinx on Jan 17, 2012 at 10:58 PM
Actually bro, merun sa akin ganun dati pero pwede din wala yun... pag merun ka passive equalizer ay pwede mo dun i-hook up at button nun nasa harapan in between ng sorround at karaoke button.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: biogenicnyo on Jan 18, 2012 at 09:24 PM
hi po mga boss,

.here's the situation;

i have Konzert AV-502A
i have Sony apm-d4 110watts (pair)
now, sinaksak ko po un sa "surround", kasi bka kung sa main ko isasaksak, bka mkalimut ako. at masira speaker.

questions:

1.pagnagpapatugtug po ako. at hindi nka pindot and "karaoke" button at tinaas ko ang "echo" ung mismong tugtug ang nag eecho. pero once na pinindot ko un. nwawala ang effect.

"ganun po ba talga un ??"

2.everytime na pindutin ko ang "eq" button nawawala ang sound .

"ganun po ba talga un??"

3.at last ung "treble","bass","middle",at"balance". hindi gumagana.

"dahil ba wala sa main ang speakers??"

thanks po. lam ko makkatulong din to sa iba.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: biogenicnyo on Jan 19, 2012 at 12:08 AM
mga sir yung toshiba part po ba na nandito ee. main parts ng isang amp??

.may mkkpagsabi po ba kung anu ang main parts ng isang "amplifier" ??
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC00296.jpg)

.thanks po..
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: vhinx on Jan 19, 2012 at 08:33 AM
@ biogenicnyo questions:

1.pagnagpapatugtug po ako. at hindi nka pindot and "karaoke" button at tinaas ko ang "echo" ung mismong tugtug ang nag eecho. pero once na pinindot ko un. nwawala ang effect.
Ans: Yes, You hook your speaker to sorrounds terminal kaya mag echo talaga yan pag nag adjust ka. Konzert features yan.

2.everytime na pindutin ko ang "eq" button nawawala ang sound .
Ans: Yup-Yes. Yan yung sinasabi ko sayo na dapat merun RCA jumper yung "EQ" sa likod.

3.at last ung "treble","bass","middle",at"balance". hindi gumagana.
Ans: Yes again... Because you used the sorrounds terminal out for re-speaker.

thanks po. lam ko makkatulong din to sa iba.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: AppleMan on Jan 19, 2012 at 09:54 AM
@ biogenicnyo questions:

1.pagnagpapatugtug po ako. at hindi nka pindot and "karaoke" button at tinaas ko ang "echo" ung mismong tugtug ang nag eecho. pero once na pinindot ko un. nwawala ang effect.
Ans: Yes, You hook your speaker to sorrounds terminal kaya mag echo talaga yan pag nag adjust ka. Konzert features yan.

2.everytime na pindutin ko ang "eq" button nawawala ang sound .
Ans: Yup-Yes. Yan yung sinasabi ko sayo na dapat merun RCA jumper yung "EQ" sa likod.

3.at last ung "treble","bass","middle",at"balance". hindi gumagana.
Ans: Yes again... Because you used the sorrounds terminal out for re-speaker.

thanks po. lam ko makkatulong din to sa iba.

Thumbs Up sir Vhinx correct na correct yung sagot.... :D
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: AppleMan on Jan 19, 2012 at 09:57 AM
mga sir yung toshiba part po ba na nandito ee. main parts ng isang amp??

.may mkkpagsabi po ba kung anu ang main parts ng isang "amplifier" ??
.thanks po..

Usually po sa mga ampli yang mga Transistor na ganyan yan yung kadalasn na main amp or OUTPUT TRANSISTOR nya yang nasa pic usually yan PNP at NPN transisitor pag A or B yung umpisa ng part number PNP trans. pag C or D NPN trans. naman sya.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: markcrenz on Jan 19, 2012 at 10:47 AM
2.everytime na pindutin ko ang "eq" button nawawala ang sound .
Ans: Yup-Yes. Yan yung sinasabi ko sayo na dapat merun RCA jumper yung "EQ" sa likod.
bro vhinx, wag mo na sila pahirapan maghanap at maglagay ng jumper. magkakaroon pa ng signal degradation/noise sa mas mahabang signal path. wag na lang pindutin yung eq switch.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: biogenicnyo on Jan 19, 2012 at 04:47 PM
sir vhinx and sir china-man, thanks po. sa mga sagot.. .
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: biogenicnyo on Jan 19, 2012 at 04:52 PM
mga sir.

1.. anu pong masasabi nyo sa "shhhhhh" sound na naririnig ko sa speaker ko? gamit ko po ung AV-502a.


2.and panu po nalalaman na may tama na ang isang amplifier. ?


pasensya napo sa mga tanung .dito na po kasi ako umaasa ng mga sagot. hanggang sales talk lang po kasi karamihan sa mga bantay sa mga appliances store ee. hehe peace . thanks po.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: plapoy on Jan 19, 2012 at 05:27 PM
mga sir.

1.. anu pong masasabi nyo sa "shhhhhh" sound na naririnig ko sa speaker ko? gamit ko po ung AV-502a.


2.and panu po nalalaman na may tama na ang isang amplifier. ?


pasensya napo sa mga tanung .dito na po kasi ako umaasa ng mga sagot. hanggang sales talk lang po kasi karamihan sa mga bantay sa mga appliances store ee. hehe peace . thanks po.



Check nyo po muna kung saan nagmumula yung sound.. baka po sa source nyo..

ex. PC source-> amp -> speaker..

try to disconnect yung source nyo sa amp.. then turn it on kung meron pa din.. pag nawala sya.. ibig sabihin yung connection nyo from source yung probleman.. pwedeng yung cable na ginagamit nyo grounded..
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: biogenicnyo on Jan 19, 2012 at 10:41 PM
mga sir,

natry ko na pong patayin ang source,
(kahit nkababa ang volume) ganun padin po.


ganito po ang ginagawa ko ....
(naririnig ko po ung "shhhh" pero nakadikit po ang tenga ko sa speaker.)  hehe.

over reacting na po ba ako?.

Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: jeff29jeff2002 on Jan 29, 2012 at 06:08 PM
bro vhinx, wag mo na sila pahirapan maghanap at maglagay ng jumper. magkakaroon pa ng signal degradation/noise sa mas mahabang signal path. wag na lang pindutin yung eq switch.

+100  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: jeff29jeff2002 on Jan 29, 2012 at 06:13 PM
mga sir,

natry ko na pong patayin ang source,
(kahit nkababa ang volume) ganun padin po.


ganito po ang ginagawa ko ....
(naririnig ko po ung "shhhh" pero nakadikit po ang tenga ko sa speaker.)  hehe.

over reacting na po ba ako?.



Opo bro... I think as long as di naman audible ang hiss about 2 feet away ok na yun.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: vhinx on Jan 30, 2012 at 02:43 PM
mga sir,

natry ko na pong patayin ang source,
(kahit nkababa ang volume) ganun padin po.


ganito po ang ginagawa ko ....
(naririnig ko po ung "shhhh" pero nakadikit po ang tenga ko sa speaker.)  hehe.

over reacting na po ba ako?.

Bro, pareho speaker mo ba merun hisss sounds? try mo mag palit ng speaker wire na mas maganda at makapal kung merun ka spare then idikit mo ulit tenga mo kung merun pa... Merun din dati hisss or very small distorted sounds sa kevler speaker ko nun at ginawa ko lang nag palit ako speaker cable and RCA cables then ng merun pa din pero mas mahina na eh nag resolder lang ako sa loob ng speaker box at ok na...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: biogenicnyo on Feb 01, 2012 at 05:51 PM
Bro, pareho speaker mo ba merun hisss sounds? try mo mag palit ng speaker wire na mas maganda at makapal kung merun ka spare then idikit mo ulit tenga mo kung merun pa... Merun din dati hisss or very small distorted sounds sa kevler speaker ko nun at ginawa ko lang nag palit ako speaker cable and RCA cables then ng merun pa din pero mas mahina na eh nag resolder lang ako sa loob ng speaker box at ok na...

.thanks po sir vhinx ... i-try ko un.. hehe . thanks .
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: biogenicnyo on Feb 02, 2012 at 10:52 AM
good morning mga sir.

. may nabasa po kasi ako sa past "reply" dito,(hindi ko na makita, kaya hindi ko na ma-qoute), BAWAL DAW manggaling sa COMPUTER ang SOURCE ng sounds ??. tama po ba yun ?. at kung "tama", bkit po ?.. thanks ..

.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: badoy on Feb 02, 2012 at 03:17 PM
di po bawal at walang dahilan.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: vhinx on Feb 02, 2012 at 03:49 PM
good morning mga sir.

. may nabasa po kasi ako sa past "reply" dito,(hindi ko na makita, kaya hindi ko na ma-qoute), BAWAL DAW manggaling sa COMPUTER ang SOURCE ng sounds ??. tama po ba yun ?. at kung "tama", bkit po ?.. thanks ...

Ha, bakit daw bawal!?... wala pa naman pinagbabawal yan sa saligan batas. ;D depende siguro yun bro.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: darkn1ght on Feb 08, 2012 at 03:02 AM
Mga paps, tulong naman..

I am setting up a dedicated Videoke system para sa bahay.
Planning to use a Vivaus Mini as the Videoke Machine.

Please advise kung anung Konzert Amp / Mixer and Speakers ang trusted for home videoke use.

So far, I am looking at the Konzert AV633

(http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1301/793963154_60e04803b2.jpg)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: biogenicnyo on Feb 24, 2012 at 10:00 PM
Ha, bakit daw bawal!?... wala pa naman pinagbabawal yan sa saligan batas. ;D depende siguro yun bro.

. ahm sir may nabasa lang ako.pero mukang hindi nga naman hehe. thanks po ...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: biogenicnyo on Feb 24, 2012 at 10:06 PM
.mga sir ...

may tanung lang.

. saan po ba ako dapat mag worry?.
. (tungkiol po sa "kung kakayanin ng amp ko.")

a. sa WATTS

b. sa IMPEDANCE

.at bakit po ??

at isa pa po . MERON NA PO AKONG "KONZERT SPEAKER KSS 650V" 600 WATTS, 8ohmz impedance.
. okei naman po un sa AV-502 amp diba ?.



thanks po ...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: plapoy on Feb 24, 2012 at 10:49 PM
Mga paps, tulong naman..

I am setting up a dedicated Videoke system para sa bahay.
Planning to use a Vivaus Mini as the Videoke Machine.

Please advise kung anung Konzert Amp / Mixer and Speakers ang trusted for home videoke use.

So far, I am looking at the Konzert AV633

(http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1301/793963154_60e04803b2.jpg)

brader yung av633 ba pde pa din ihook sa konzert 502 or pde rekta na?.. how much kaya yan?..
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: ATJr. on Feb 25, 2012 at 06:56 AM
.mga sir ...

may tanung lang.

. saan po ba ako dapat mag worry?.
. (tungkiol po sa "kung kakayanin ng amp ko.")

a. sa WATTS

b. sa IMPEDANCE

.at bakit po ??

at isa pa po . MERON NA PO AKONG "KONZERT SPEAKER KSS 650V" 600 WATTS, 8ohmz impedance.
. okei naman po un sa AV-502 amp diba ?.

thanks po ...

vague ang tanong mo.....
common sense lang, pag nagdistort na ang tunog, back off mo yung volume, make sure na well ventilated yung amp....

ang kaligtasan ng equipment nasa gumagamit, kaya hinay hinay lang.......

walang pinagiwan sa kotse, kahit na yung speedometer merong 200km/hr hindi ibig sabihin ganun ang takbo mo, 40 to 80 pwede.....
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: yhanskie on Mar 22, 2012 at 04:42 PM
Mga master,

Newbie here, i just gratefull that I got to this site... I have my 1 yr old AV502a just noticed parang grounded yung left speaker..help naman to troubleshoot this kind of problem..

thanks....

BTW.. KS 450 speaker ko...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: basty_elmer on May 28, 2012 at 08:56 AM
We're Planning to buy AV-502A (500w x2) and KS-405V (450 watts max) speaker.

Pwede na po ba to covered court? 

bakit po kaya ang specs is 500w x2 ? ibig sabihin po ba pwede max nya tig 500watts na speakers (left and right? cencxa na mga sirs wala talaga ako alam sa speakers:)

gagamitin kc namin sa maliit na church and school para sa mga programs...kaya na kaya to mga sirs..


Need advice from the experts..Thanks in Advance mga broder :)



Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: jerix on Aug 12, 2014 at 01:06 PM
Hey i just want to ask something about my Konzert 502. Can I hook an active sub on the SUPER BASS? ;)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: markcrenz on Aug 12, 2014 at 02:01 PM
yes, but i think those are wired as typical "tape out" jacks before the preamp, baka 'di sumabay sa volume control.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: jerix on Aug 12, 2014 at 06:23 PM
Bro Mark sencia na pero paki explain pa nga further. Thanks  ;)
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Aug 12, 2014 at 06:28 PM
yes, but i think those are wired as typical "tape out" jacks before the preamp, baka 'di sumabay sa volume control.

Kapag tape out kasi, walang volume level. Basta kung ano yun volume na pumasok sa source, wala atang additional gain kasi it is used for recording from the tape. So when you pump up the volume of the amp, hindi lalakas or hihina ang tape out, kaya hindi makakasabay sa volume control.

It like nag Y-connection via RCA from you source. Yun isang Y, papuntang amp. Yun isang Y, sa sub. So kapag nilakasan mo yun volume ng amp mo, since your sub is gatting it's signal from the source and not between the preamp & amp section, hindi sasabay sa volume yun sub mo.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: markcrenz on Aug 12, 2014 at 07:29 PM
there.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: jeff29jeff2002 on Aug 12, 2014 at 11:06 PM
yes, but i think those are wired as typical "tape out" jacks before the preamp, baka 'di sumabay sa volume control.

Sir curious lang, does its "SUPER BASS" bear a full range output or it contains the bass frequency lang?
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: markcrenz on Aug 13, 2014 at 10:55 AM
Behind the SUPER BASS jacks, sa input PCB nakaprint either TAPE OUT or REC OUT, and it's also wired that way, so it's safe to assume unprocessed full range ang signal. It's a very old model, they may have made some changes in later model, pero malabo yatang baguhin pa nila yun.

EDIT: not unprocessed, dumaan pala sa selector IC.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: jeff29jeff2002 on Aug 14, 2014 at 10:55 PM
thanks sir mark...
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: jerix on Aug 15, 2014 at 07:40 AM
so in other words, pwede ba akong kumuha ng signal dito to be fed on my powered BASH amp for a more powerful bass? Thanks
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Aug 15, 2014 at 01:27 PM
so in other words, pwede ba akong kumuha ng signal dito to be fed on my powered BASH amp for a more powerful bass? Thanks

Yes.
Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: kaloy27 on Oct 26, 2014 at 07:41 PM
Mga sir patulong nmn po.. i have 2 amps pero kpg kinabit ko clang dalawa sa mixer bumababa ung bass nya yung parang nahahati yung lakas ng bass nya.patulong nmn po kng ano mgndng gwin dito..salamat

Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 26, 2014 at 07:48 PM
Mga sir patulong nmn po.. i have 2 amps pero kpg kinabit ko clang dalawa sa mixer bumababa ung bass nya yung parang nahahati yung lakas ng bass nya.patulong nmn po kng ano mgndng gwin dito..salamat




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Title: Re: Konzert AVR
Post by: ramsey on Nov 19, 2014 at 08:51 PM
Just bought my Konzert 502B and KSS10 set up. Parang kulang pa sa bass yung KSS10. Ano settings nyo ng Bass, Treble, and Mid? Mine, they're all set to +2. It still lacks on something I cant find the right settings. Malayo kasi pinagkaiba nila ng tunog sa nakasanayan ko na HK-Paradigm set up. Pero ayos na ayos pambulabog ng kapitbahay hehe ;D.