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Home Theater => Audio => Speakers => Topic started by: LancerV6 on Jan 21, 2002 at 09:21 AM
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Hi Guys,
Maganda ba Dai-ichi speakers for Front, Center & Sub? ???
I know for a fact that TARGA by Dai-ichi is Good when it comes to car audio ;D ...pero sa HT oki kaya siya?
Thanks :)
Jeremy
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Try Selective Audio and US Lab. IMHO I find them very good and affordable. Its a good buy if your in a tight budget. You even see them at hi-end shops and they also look good.
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LancerV6- Try to audition our speakers before you decide on buying the Dai-ichi...you might change your mind... ;)
http://www.pinoydvd.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.cgi?board=buysell&action=display&num=1006457922&start=15
NIRVBLAKR ;D
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Guys,
I have a Pioneer VSX-5700S as my AVR.
My problem is it doesn't have a sub out. So I was wondering if papasok ba yung US AUDIO Sub sa aking AVR? Btw, may nakita akong speaker inputs sa likod ng US Audio subs. What are these for? Sabi sa Dai-1chi pwede daw, pero I didn't get what the man said! :)
How do I connect?
Thanks!
Jeremy
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Hi Lancer,
siguro ibig sabihin nila is to connect the left and right speaker to the left and right speaker input sa sub then another wire from the outs of sub to your AVR maybe this thing will work. I have a Philips Dolby prologic before also no sub out the philips people customer support told me to connect an RCA wire to the audio in/out of the tape input record para gumana yung sub. connect mo na lang either sa left or right and check kung may sounds na lalabas. :)
I hope this will works
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mm2002 is right, kaya lang nabaligtad lang:
from the left and right speaker outs in your avr connect left and right speaker cables to the speaker INPUTS of the sub, then connect the front/satellite speakers to the speaker OUTPUTs of the sub using another run of speaker cables.
then adjust the crossover on the sub to specify what frequencies will be played by the sub and what will be passed on by the sub to the speakers
GAOL
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Ano po? Paki ulit from the start.... :) hehehe
RCA? for the tape record? how how?
Please pwede po step by step....
From the AVR to the subs to the speakers...???
Sori kung ginagambala ko kayo... ;D
Thanks!
Jeremy
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Your rec out or tape out of your AVR constantly outputs the program being play be it tuner, dvd, cd, etc. This is where you would connect the RCA plug to the input of your subwoofer. This is called low level input. Another alternative is the speaker B of your AVR which you will connect to the speaker input of the subwoofer. This is called high level input. If you opt to connect your existing speaker to the speaker output of you subwoofer, you will be using it's (subwoofer) internal crossover which usually crosses at 120hz. If you have full range speakers do not use this set-up.
Hope this will help. ;)
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I used to have a Pioneer VSX 9700 and it does not have a subwoofer out so I connect my subwoofer to the tape out. The problem I noticed is the bass is somewhat delayed. Im using GK. When I changed my receiver with a sub out, the bass improved and there was no delay anymore.
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Alfred,
sa TAPE-low level...okie..gets ;D
sa Speaker B..high level??...dba sub dapat low?...hehehe
Kung sa speaker B nga ko siya ikakabit...then my main fronts can still stay in the A speaker inputs???
Sory for the ignorance...car audio kasi eh!!! Mas madali...
Thanks!
Jeremy
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LancerV6,
High level means amplified signal. The output of speaker B is already amplified so you cant connect it to the low level input (RCA). Masusunog ang input stage ng subwoofer amp. Low level means audio signal lang. It is the same sa car audio. Do you remember the booster equalizer before where you connect the speaker out of the car stereo to the input of the booster equa? That is high level.
Levi
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Alfred,
sa TAPE-low level...okie..gets ;D
sa Speaker B..high level??...dba sub dapat low?...hehehe
Kung sa speaker B nga ko siya ikakabit...then my main fronts can still stay in the A speaker inputs???
Sory for the ignorance...car audio kasi eh!!! Mas madali...
Thanks!
Jeremy
Need help in setting up your kotse's sound system? Visit http://www.kotse.com's Audio section
Basta keep in mind pag ang jack/plug ay RCA, low level. Pag speaker terminal (black/red) open wire or banana, high level. If nasa speaker B (high level), you have the option of taking the subs in/out of the system. :D ;)
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Sir Alfred:
Bakit sabi ni LEVI pag sa high input (B)...masusunog yung amp ng sub ko??
Eh pag sa B ko nga kinabit? Dba may option akong patayin pa kasi na o-off dba?...pero going back to query 1??
Sir Levi:
Kung sa speaker B ko nga siya ikabit? Masusunog amp ng sub ko?
Kung RCA na ginamit ko d nde na kailangan yung speaker inputs sa likod ng sub dba?
Sorry kung makulit...thanks!
Jeremy
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What Levi meant was that you shouldn't connect your high level (from speaker B) to the low level of you subs. Unless of course you solder your speaker wires to the RCA plug (ngek!).
Use only one connection either :
1. tape out/rec out (RCA plug) of AVR to low level (RCA plug) of subwoofer.
2. Speaker B wire to speaker input of subwoofer.
;)
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LancerV6,
If you use RCA (low level) you wont need the speaker input of your sub. As what Alfred has said Dont use speaker out and convert it to RCA.
Levi
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Ahh...
okie..
Levi/Alfred...thankjs a lot sa pasensha! ;D
Jeremy
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Ok. Sige, feedback mo results. :D
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This is the link to Dai-ichi Website (http://www.dai-1chi.com.ph)
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Hello all of you,
Using Dai-ichi / Targa on both HT and car audio is a big F mistake... (sorry dai-ichi)
If you need advice you can make a copy of my HT set-up here in Cebu. Here's my list
DVD player- Pioneer DV-S838A
Receiver - Yamaha RXV1
TV - Pioneer Plasma 60"
Speakers - Cerwin Vega complete package
Additional Subwoofer - Sunfire true subwoofer MKII (pls check at www.sunfire.com)
Cables - all monster cables gauge 16
So you see you need to match your HT from the receiver-dvd-down to your speakers to achieve the greatest sound possible.
And for car audio i would recommend you use the one am currently setting up on my Expedition
Sub-woofer - 6 JBL GTX/i subwoofer
amplifier - 8 Orion amplifier
detail speakers -3pairs MB quart 6 1/2 component speaker
Hope im of help to you..... targa are used in remote areas (ex. dinagat island) so it really S_ _ _s
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Hello all of you,
Using Dai-ichi / Targa on both HT and car audio is a big F mistake... (sorry dai-ichi)
If you need advice you can make a copy of my HT set-up here in Cebu. Here's my list
DVD player- Pioneer DV-S838A
Receiver - Yamaha RXV1
TV - Pioneer Plasma 60"
Speakers - Cerwin Vega complete package
Additional Subwoofer - Sunfire true subwoofer MKII (pls check at www.sunfire.com)
Cables - all monster cables gauge 16
So you see you need to match your HT from the receiver-dvd-down to your speakers to achieve the greatest sound possible.
And for car audio i would recommend you use the one am currently setting up on my Expedition
Sub-woofer - 6 JBL GTX/i subwoofer
amplifier - 8 Orion amplifier
detail speakers -3pairs MB quart 6 1/2 component speaker
Hope im of help to you..... targa are used in remote areas (ex. dinagat island) so it really S_ _ _s
Hi Weel-Boor, Welcome aboard,
I think the Dai-ichi is your weakest link. Get a better speaker. For the price of Dai-ichi, it would do but not in your setup.
Levi
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Speakers - Cerwin Vega complete package
Guys, aren't the drivers for Cerwin Vega! made by Dai-Ichi? ???
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Yeah I thought so too. In the dai-1chi website, a few of the speakers there looks like some older cerwin-vega models. ???
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If my memory serves me right(I am writing this based on a 1996/97 awards info), A speaker was awarded a sort of SPeaker of the year or consumer's choice whatever and if it was Cerwin , the sub contractor was Dai-Ichi.
You don't believe me???go to the Dai-Ichi Showroom at the Mega Mall and request for that article, previously it was being displayed(like some articles in a restuarant written by a gourmet extolling their food), but I guess Dai-ichii has decided to be know by it's name.
Levi, Isn't it Cerwin's are nice?? ;) :o ;D
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Alfie,
I only see Cerwin in cars and for DJs. I agree Dai-ichi is the manufacturer of Cerwin and a lot of good brands.
Levi
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I am looking for a new subwoofer 100-130 watts. Nakakita ako sa Park square makati, the brand name is Daichi. The price is Php5,300. Mura and natest ko na yung sound which is ok naman, the question is yung reliability. ok ba ito?
Or kung meron kayong suggestion (like sony, etc.) ok din, just include yung model # pati price range.
Thanks!
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You can check out this link for more budget subwoofer
<A href="http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?action=display;board=10;threadid=1612">http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?action=display;board=10;threadid=1612</A>
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For its (low) price, the Daichi SW could be a good buy. How big (inches) is it? You could probably get a better price, though, if you went to the Daichi Showroom on the fifth floor of MegaMall.
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jonster- you can consider getting one of our active 10 inch kevlar custom made 100 watt sub which goes for P5500. You have the choice of a front or downfiring one. Text me at 09175298004 if you are interested.
(http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/28fb116d/bc/speakers/AASWD01.jpg?BCKJ349A9SCH.ySX)
Model# AASWD01 (downfiring sub)
(http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/28fb116d/bc/speakers/AASWF01.jpg?BCKJ349AwpS9EN_E)
Model# AASWF01 (frontfiring sub)
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Try Dynaquest DQ120. I think it sells at 6,800 in park square2.
Good Sub... ;)
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Bump
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I was wondering why Dai-ichi discontinued some of their good products like one of their downfiring subs with the remote control (model # ASW10HE7). It is a good buy. Owned one of these before... great bass for HT!
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correct me if i'm wrong but dai-chi speakers are rated 4 ohms, right? hindi ba mahirap i-pair ito sa receivers compared to 6- or 8-ohm speakers unless na lang may 4,6,8 ohm selector ???
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there are variations nman..meron din 8 ohms and 6 ohms.. ;) i have a bookshelf pair which is 8 ohms..
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there are variations nman..meron din 8 ohms and 6 ohms.. ;) i have a bookshelf pair which is 8 ohms..
what about other speakers (Mission, Wharfs, b&w etc etc..), may variations din ba? i noticed kasi most (or all ???) wharfs e 6 ohms at yung mission 8 ohms
thanks :)
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what about other speakers (Mission, Wharfs, b&w etc etc..), may variations din ba? i noticed kasi most (or all ???) wharfs e 6 ohms at yung mission 8 ohms
thanks :)
Although the wharfs are rated 6 ohms their website says that it is compatible to 8 ohm receivers
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dracula/johndoe,
thanks ;D
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People,
Any new good speakers from Dai-Ichi lately?
Thanks.
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I saw a 5.1 speaker set from Dai-Ichi. It cost 12T and the styling is like the leisure monitor of B&W or the NXT of Mission.
(http://www.bwspeakers.com/images/SpeakerModel/images/VM1/main.jpg)
I was not able to audition it.
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I heard the pregnant series of dai-ichi (http://www.daiichi.ph/HOMETHEATER1.htm) efd series. I was actually impressed by the sound, not too shabby for locally made speakers and they don't look half as bad either.
Got to listen to it in their listening room (the one for home theater, in megamall). I just wonder how its going to fair in real environments (i.e. house, non-square rooms, small receivers, etc).
I'll try to get a pair of the bookshelf models. Let you folks know how it turns out. :D
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caohyde: would appreciate comments regarding the midrange and how it fares with tube amps if ever. thanks!
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After reading the posts in the US Audio Thread, I'm starting to wonder if I should get the Slim Series, or the EFD Series. After all, tweaking lang ang katapat nito. Been pondering on getting wharfedales too.
Hmmm... so many to choose from.... ???
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After reading the posts in the US Audio Thread, I'm starting to wonder if I should get the Slim Series, or the EFD Series. After all, tweaking lang ang katapat nito. Been pondering on getting wharfedales too.
Hmmm... so many to choose from.... ???
How much is the difference in price between the wharfs and the others?
Wharf Diamonds can also improve with tweaking. I think the crossovers can be improved in most entry-level branded speakers.
Now if you like brand recognition a Wharf name may be more impressive to the neighbors than a Dai-ichi.
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How much is the difference in price between the wharfs and the others?
Wharf Diamonds can also improve with tweaking. I think the crossovers can be improved in most entry-level branded speakers.
Now if you like brand recognition a Wharf name may be more impressive to the neighbors than a Dai-ichi.
av_phile,
thanks for the comment at the other thread, my question is can the wharf 8.1 be tweaked too and should it be tweaked na, because at present they kinda sound awesome enough for me already.
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av_phile,
thanks for the comment at the other thread, my question is can the wharf 8.1 be tweaked too and should it be tweaked na, because at present they kinda sound awesome enough for me already
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its up to you...it can always be improved...what are you looking for ? more clarity? highs?
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personally i am already quite satisfied with the clarity e, actually i'm using it for my fronts. will it considerably improve pa if i have it tweaked?
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personally i am already quite satisfied with the clarity e, actually i'm using it for my fronts. will it considerably improve pa if i have it tweaked?
If they sound ok to you na, I suggest patapusin mo na muna yung warranty before you tweak. Then ask Nirvblkr for a better crossover network or better tweeters. Sometimes the tweaking can be psychological. Knowing you are using the best parts have a calming/reassuring mind effect.
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guys,
any suggestions on what particular dvd to watch or more specifically what scenes to view for a good subwoofer audition?
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guys,
any suggestions on what particular dvd to watch or more specifically what scenes to view for a good subwoofer audition?
- The Haunting
- U-571
:)
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Van Wilder-
Try these DVDs for testing your sub:
Behind Enemy Lines
SPR
The Haunting
Minority Report
Star Wars Episode 1
PearL Harbor
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How much is the difference in price between the wharfs and the others?
Wharf Diamonds can also improve with tweaking. I think the crossovers can be improved in most entry-level branded speakers.
Now if you like brand recognition a Wharf name may be more impressive to the neighbors than a Dai-ichi.
your right, most entry level speakers can be tweaked for better sound. :) Actually, what might be more impressive is to hear a dai-ichi sounding better than the branded ones, all else being equal. 8)
As for the price, a few hundred pesos lang ang difference (dai-ichi EFS bookshelf 5,6++; wharfedale 8.2 5,3++).
i guess i'll see nalang whatever comes... :D
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nirvblakr,
thanks for the advice and thanks for the sub, aba it does rock my place and i only placed it sa 10 oclock position, yung volume that is. kaso hindi makatulog newborn ko palagi nagugulat.
anyway, when i turn or manipulate main volume, pati yung sub, nakokontrol din diba?
also, thanks for the suggestions regarding the dvds to play and the connector, which i got from truevalue rockwell.
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your right, most entry level speakers can be tweaked for better sound. :) Actually, what might be more impressive is to hear a dai-ichi sounding better than the branded ones, all else being equal. 8)
As for the price, a few hundred pesos lang ang difference (dai-ichi EFS bookshelf 5,6++; wharfedale 8.2 5,3++).
i guess i'll see nalang whatever comes... :D
caohyde, where were you able to try the 8.2?
okay ba sound, i read kasi before that a lot were really impressed with the 8.1 but not so much with the 8.2, kasi not much difference daw with the former. Okay ba tumunog and how much?
thanks
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Hi pare,
Eto na lang ang sasabihin ko, try visiting Dai-1chi showrooms in both Raon Mall(2nd flr.), and Megamall.
I'm not sayin they're the best, but you're forgetting the price factor, not everybody can afford imported speakers. Sa presyo, they would exceed expectations. And did I mention Dai-1chi has used different names for their speakers because they export them. US Audio, Audiofile, DTX. They're all manufactured by Dai-1chi. You be the judge, pare. Oh, and Dai-1chi happens to be the leader in speaker manufacturing in the Philippines, they're multi-awarded, internationally-assisted, and internationally-affiliated. I may not be an expert, but what's the use of an expert's advice if your own setup doesn't sound good to your own ears? Kaya nga sa 'yo yan e.
My Home Theater setup:
Yamaha DSP-AX430
A China-made DVD player(Fully Loaded for below 4000m, and wala pa syang sira for over a year na.)
US Audio 10cc center speaker
Dai-1chi CT-503 main
3 pairs of Audiofile 3" Cubes for surround
a home made subwoofer
(I plan to change my mains into a pair of DTX 9.5 Towers, and purchase a Dai-1chi 10DR Sub)
Pasensya na, mahirap lng kasi ako, e.
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Im not using Dai-ichi but I admire this brand.
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I heard the pregnant series of dai-ichi (http://www.daiichi.ph/HOMETHEATER1.htm) efd series. I was actually impressed by the sound, not too shabby for locally made speakers and they don't look half as bad either.
Got to listen to it in their listening room (the one for home theater, in megamall). I just wonder how its going to fair in real environments (i.e. house, non-square rooms, small receivers, etc).
I'll try to get a pair of the bookshelf models. Let you folks know how it turns out. :D
Pards, magkano kaya yung complete EFD and slim package nya?
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according to their website, here are some of their customers:
"By such approach in doing business, the company from its very conception in 1969, have been characterized by continued high growth, profitability and stability, as evidenced by its dominance of the Phils. market, supplying to almost all the OEM market, and majority of the branded market. To name a few : Sony, Panasonic, Sharp, LG, Samsung, Fujitsu Ten, Toyota, Mistubishi, Nissan, Honda, Isuzu Ford. Export OEM and ODM supplier to more than hundreds of satisfied customers of major brands, and to more than 46 countries world wide such as KEF, Celestion, Macrom, Phoenix Gold, Radio Shack, Kenwood, TDJ, Coustic, MTX, Macrom, Cerwin Vega, Magnadyne, Mito, Peavey, Monster Cable, and automotive speaker custom built for Freightliner, Peterbilt, and major R/V in the US. Replacement OEM after market speaker for Chrysler, Daimler, Volkswagen Volvo. Had been supplier also to JVC, Polk Audio, Jensen etc."
Nung bata pa ako, I think I saw its manufacturing facilities in Las Pinas, and laging may strike, hence nag-shutdown siguro yung company.
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Our first speakers at home was Dai-ichi galing sound
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(I plan to change my mains into a pair of DTX 9.5 Towers, and purchase a Dai-1chi 10DR Sub)
Pasensya na, mahirap lng kasi ako, e.
try to get the US Audio 508 or 512. ok na sub yun. comparable with the Dynaquest and Glanz Klar, imo.
as for the cost of our set ups, frankly i don't care whether members in this forum have HTIBs, or have home-made, locally-made HT systems , or maybe even obscenely priced set-ups. what matters to me is that we are all equal in this forum because we all appreciate good sound and video. you should not apologize for your set up. in fact it's great that you are in to this hobby and i am sure that you can count on a lot of members in this forum to support you in anyway they can. my 1 centavo worth.
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Magaling ang Daichi! My first subwoofer was their ASW10DR, a push-pull driver configuration. Dalawa kaming mahilig sa HT bumily nyan sabay!. Me and my friend Melvin took sometime to find a worthy upgrade over it as many P15K-20K subs that time (1996-98) were not enough to topple the Daichi ASW10DR easily (puro brand new price kasi bilihan nun, madalang ang used units!). Proof to that, only a P38K Velodyne VA1012XIIE gave me the urge to upgrade, otherwise I would have sticked with the Daichi. Melvin on the other hand later upgraded to an M&K MX-105 (P38K, although P60K now).
I just noticed though that the recent Daichi subs were no longer as musically satisfying as the original ASW10DR. Their current subs seems to primarily intended for HT.
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how much ang center speaker ng us audio? ung 100 watt rms...
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how much ang center speaker ng us audio? ung 100 watt rms...
I think 80 watts yung available na US Audio Center Speaker, with one midrange and a tweeter. Price is about Php 1.2K
Much better yung DTX center Speaker, 2 midrange and a tweeter, 100 watts ata and worth Php 1.6K.
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im trying to setup an ht in my own room kasi eh..but really tight budget..since ayaw ng mom and dad ko magbigay ng mony...kasi meron na daw sa salas ;D
sa mega 5th floor to diba?tnx. ;)
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Yes, meron sa daichi Showroom Megamall, pero mas mahal sa kanila kasi SRP-based ang prices nila dun, dapat nga hindi sila nagbebenta don. Anyway sa Raon ka bumili, para mas makamura ka.
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sang shop dun..and pano ba magpunta dun?sori for the ignorance but ive never been there..any help?tnx..
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sang shop dun..and pano ba magpunta dun?sori for the ignorance but ive never been there..any help?tnx..
Sa malapit sa Quiapo Church, tanungin mo lang kung saan malapit yung RAON Shopping Complex, marami dun, then sa kahabaan ng Raon (G. Puyat St.), marami din dun.
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ahh...ok...dun pla,punta ko by this coming week...tnx for the info! ;D
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FYI,
For those looking for dai-1chi, us audio, dtx and etc. , try buying from Knight Audio Room. They have one of the most lowest priced items for sale there in raon. Its located in the raon shopping center, just below the Dai-1chi showroom. Their store is kinda small so most of the items they have for sale are not on display and are only shown in catalogs. Their tel.# is 7363881 to 82, look for Jennifer.
Hope this helps :)
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FYI,
For those looking for dai-1chi, us audio, dtx and etc. , try buying from Knight Audio Room. They have one of the most lowest priced items for sale there in raon. Its located in the raon shopping center, just below the Dai-1chi showroom. Their store is kinda small so most of the items they have for sale are not on display and are only shown in catalogs. Their tel.# is 7363881 to 82, look for Jennifer.
Hope this helps :)
Pards, nasa raon ako kahapon, sobra ang pawis, pero di ko pa rin makita yung dai-ichi showroom, saan ba pinakamalapit na landmark noon?
Regarding subwoofer, cheked out my monitoring:
US audio sub=P5.5 and DQ12=P5k. I've heared na marami raw pekeng US audio and Dynaquest subwoofer along raon? how true is this kaya?
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it's at the 2nd level of the same building housing Chow King at Raon St. corner Quezon Blvd (about 2 blocks away from Quiapo Church)...
As for fake Dynaquest, I really doubt it for that kind of price whether they can still do decent margin by coming up with imitation units.
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hi,sorry if its OT,but meron din bang recievers dun sa raon.? an how much is the price range for a DD/DTS reciever..?ive never been there e..im planning to buy one for my room.. ;) meron na sa salas kaso i need my own e.. ;D
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hi,sorry if its OT,but meron din bang recievers dun sa raon.? an how much is the price range for a DD/DTS reciever..?ive never been there e..im planning to buy one for my room.. ;) meron na sa salas kaso i need my own e.. ;D
Meron, I think may at least three shops (sorry forgot their store names) duon ang reseller ng mga Receivers.
Ang mga products nila ay Pioneer, Yamaha and Onkyo. Marantz.
Suggest lang, give us a particular brand and model you are eyeing, so we suggest you a better and "safer" place where you can buy the item.
Same lang ang price dun, kung mas mababa man is just a matter of a hundred or two. Mas mahal pa actually. Marantz 4300 there has a tag price of 17.5K. Pioneer 511 and Yamaha 430 is more or less 15.5K.
"safer" : Di gaanong maganda ang service duon, mahirap makakuha ng good customer service cause most of them didn't undergo training of such. Baka magkaproblema ka sa warranty, or sa service.
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ah..thnx for the advice..cguro ill buy nlang sa mega..di nman ngkakalayo ang price pla.. ;D
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hi! Just like to input. If u want the Yamaha 430. Try Ambassador located in Shangrila. They were sellling it at 12.3K
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hi! Just like to input. If u want the Yamaha 430. Try Ambassador located in Shangrila. They were sellling it at 12.3K
wow.! thans for the info.. ;)
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went to the showroom last monday.
guys, if you have a small room like mine and you need to install rear speakers near the ceiling, better to take a look at the egg satellite speaker which is around 2k per pair. the speakers is tilted downwards therefore the sound is maximized in the area you are located.
big advantage is that lifetime free labor.
note however that they are not building the drivers. it is imported and they just plaster their brand. what they do is they will assemble the speakers in their pasig plant.
also, they need to introduce exciting products to be more attractive to serious ht listeners.
iba pa rin ang perceived value of an item.
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they have a new one..the hanging plant ornament speakers..ewan ko lang kung how much ang pair.. ;D
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i called up jennifer and ito daw ang mga presyo ng mga sumosunod:
EFD 60 tower (floorstander)- 15T less 10%
EFD 55 SC (Bookshelf) - 5.4T less 10%
EFD 50 CC - 4T less 10%
mas mahal to kesa diamond series ng wharf. ano kaya mas ok in terms of performance? ::)
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maybe we could audition as a group.....
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i called up jennifer and ito daw ang mga presyo ng mga sumosunod:
EFD 60 tower (floorstander)- 15T less 10%
EFD 55 SC (Bookshelf) - 5.4T less 10%
EFD 50 CC - 4T less 10%
mas mahal to kesa diamond series ng wharf. ano kaya mas ok in terms of performance? ::)
Are these Dai-ichi locally assembled speakers?
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i think yes.. :)
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If those dai-ichi speakers are more expensive than wharfes, maybe the wharfes are a better choice. (Parang imported chicken na mas mura kesa sa local.)
I know wharfe diamonds use kevlar cone materials that have better sonic characteristics than other mateirals except metal drivers. Try comparing which sounds better to your ears.
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' Been to Raon Dai-ichi speaker showroom last friday. Here's my observation:
1. Nagtitipid, walang aircon
2. Uncommodating ng sales person.
3. Mas mahal ng di hamak kesa sa standard outlet ng dai-ichi.
4. You wont think of getting back to the store again.
Just my personal opinion.
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try the dealers, like upscale audio. Mas mura dun, kasi may dealer protection ang dai ichi
meron pa mas mura dun, PM me if you're interested
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ya...ive been there last week..mas mura dun ng konti.. 8)
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Maraming mas mura, kahit sa baba lang ng showroom. Kasi wala naman talagang sales sa showroom. Binibigay nilang price is SRP.
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Guys, aren't the drivers for Cerwin Vega! made by Dai-Ichi?
dai-ichi is an oem, you can design your own speakers and have then make it for you, although in huge quantities, yes it wouldn't be any surprise if name brands have their speakers made by dai-ichi, in the same way "quam" is an oem for a lot of stateside speakers, the name brands ones....
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last thursday kasama ko si tsonngo_26 nag audition kami sa Dai-ichi showroom sa Megamall. Ayos naman pala ang sound ng US Audio and DTX speakers, para sa akin pwedeng ikumpara ang Dai-ichi speakers sa Wharfedale. Nagustuhan ko yung DTX 9.5X slim series. Kinuwento na namin kina cebuyas_bombay and positive-noise yung audition namin. si cebuyas_bombay naniwala na maganda ang DTX speakers kasi narinig na niya yung DTX 9.5T paired with Onkyo receiver sa isa naming office mate. si positive-noise di talaga naniniwala walang bilib sa Dai-ichi.
last saturday with tsonngo_26, cebuyas_bombay, positive_noise and a friend pumunta kami sa raon mall para mag-audition ng Dai-ichi speakers. well after na marinig namin yung sounds ng speakers and subs finally convince na rin si positive_noise na pwedeng alternative ang Dai-ichi speakers. Ako yung slim series ang ok sa akin.
DTX 9.5T (floorstander) - P5.1K sa showroom - P3.8 sa Knight audio store
DTX 9.5B (bookshelf) - P2.9K sa showroom
mas maganda mag-audition sa megamall kasi 5.1 ang set-up nila, sa raon kasi pro-logic lang. anyway parehong mababait yung mga tao sa megamall and raon showrooms. yun lang po. ;D ;D ;D
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i called up jennifer and ito daw ang mga presyo ng mga sumosunod:
EFD 60 tower (floorstander)- 15T less 10%
EFD 55 SC (Bookshelf) - 5.4T less 10%
EFD 50 CC - 4T less 10%
mas mahal to kesa diamond series ng wharf. ano kaya mas ok in terms of performance? ::)
Diamond 8.4 and 8.3 compared to EFD 60. mas ok yung performance ng EFD 60 mas mahal lang nga.
Diamond 8.1 and 8.2 compared to EFD 55. mas maganda ang EFD 55. mas malakas ang bato ng bass. almost the same price lang ng wharfedale bookshelf speakers.
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Diamond 8.4 and 8.3 compared to EFD 60. mas ok yung performance ng EFD 60 mas mahal lang nga.
Diamond 8.1 and 8.2 compared to EFD 55. mas maganda ang EFD 55. mas malakas ang bato ng bass. almost the same price lang ng wharfedale bookshelf speakers.
;D hihihi! i like this! kung ganito nga ba ang quality ng mga Phil made products natin e, aba sa daichi na ko-- ;D
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If those dai-ichi speakers are more expensive than wharfes, maybe the wharfes are a better choice. (Parang imported chicken na mas mura kesa sa local.)
I know wharfe diamonds use kevlar cone materials that have better sonic characteristics than other mateirals except metal drivers. Try comparing which sounds better to your ears.
I think otherwise with wharfe diamonds. I've heard both using OKyo receiver. Dai-chi seems to have better frequency response than Wharfes. I'm not so sure however, if Daichi have a flat response over a period of time (usage).
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last thursday kasama ko si tsonngo_26 nag audition kami sa Dai-ichi showroom sa Megamall. Ayos naman pala ang sound ng US Audio and DTX speakers, para sa akin pwedeng ikumpara ang Dai-ichi speakers sa Wharfedale. Nagustuhan ko yung DTX 9.5X slim series. Kinuwento na namin kina cebuyas_bombay and positive-noise yung audition namin. si cebuyas_bombay naniwala na maganda ang DTX speakers kasi narinig na niya yung DTX 9.5T paired with Onkyo receiver sa isa naming office mate. si positive-noise di talaga naniniwala walang bilib sa Dai-ichi.
last saturday with tsonngo_26, cebuyas_bombay, positive_noise and a friend pumunta kami sa raon mall para mag-audition ng Dai-ichi speakers. well after na marinig namin yung sounds ng speakers and subs finally convince na rin si positive_noise na pwedeng alternative ang Dai-ichi speakers. Ako yung slim series ang ok sa akin.
DTX 9.5T (floorstander) - P5.1K sa showroom - P3.8 sa Knight audio store
DTX 9.5B (bookshelf) - P2.9K sa showroom
mas maganda mag-audition sa megamall kasi 5.1 ang set-up nila, sa raon kasi pro-logic lang. anyway parehong mababait yung mga tao sa megamall and raon showrooms. yun lang po. ;D ;D ;D
Maganda sa showroom kasi treated yung room. However, narinig ko na rin yung slim type sa isang oficemate namin, "bare" room pa yun, pero maganda pa rin yung response. And in my opinion, comparing Daichi with Wharfes, the former is superior than the latter.
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Hi Bro,
I agree with Torque that Dai-ichi has gone a long way in improving their sound quality. Considering my vast experience in Professional Audio, I would say Dai-ichi is worth considering (especially the EFD60).
Next big question here is the durability?? I know other speaker has technologies that lessen the wear & tear of speaker cone, or improvement in the demagnetization event...! Any comment on this??
-enjoy!
positive_noise. ;D
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hey guys ok ba yung sub ng daichi?....how much kaya ty
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Hi Bro,
I believe around 8K yung DTX na 15 inch Sub...
To Dai-ichi home user,
How's performance of Dai-ichi Speaker after years of usage??
positive_noise. ;)
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Okay na okay yung sub ng Dai-chi (DTX 15"). Dun mo bilhin sa Knight Audio sa raon shopping mall. nasa 8K+ lang. Malinis bumayo to. walang sabit.
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I have been to dai showroom. I have to pep talk the keeper as to make adjustment on the stereo gear kasi it passed to equalizer and a preamp with loudness on, that at the time of my initial listening e napawow ako sa ganda ng base (especially for their towers).
So, when the stereo gear was adjusted to all flat, the true sound came out. Compare it to a wharf, sa lowend, medyo malakas ang bayo - noting its 2 8" driver and big boxes. however, wharf has better handling of mid and the high.
Pero sa price, dai ichi is a potent alternative with the branded ones, with good aesthetics and deep bass kung hindi ka nakaflat setting.
I just though that their 2-8" driver tower speaker (about 5k per pair) could be a dual subwoofer in my setup for a lot less with a separate used amplifier from pier (at about 4k), maganda pa idisplay at hindi nakatago. Tapos, stand na rin siya ng 8.1 ko (he he he).
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;D hihihi! i like this! kung ganito nga ba ang quality ng mga Phil made products natin e, aba sa daichi na ko-- ;D
Tama ka pre, dapat tangkilikin natin ang sariling atin... ;D
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Sila rin gumagawa ng US Audio sub di ba? Ano difference ng US Audio sa DTX? Which is better? I'm currently eyeing the USAudio 508 or 512. Comments please...
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pinagpilian ko din dati ang DTX 15" at ang USAUDIO 512L. sa ngayon usaudio ang setup ko at di ako nagsisi kasi kuntento ako sa performance nito,. almost a year na sa akin ang sub at habang tumatagal lalong gumaganda sa pandinig. Kuha ko dati sa 512 is P7k+, may nilabas silang 512L ngayon na mas improved na.
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try mo i-compare yung dalawa, mas mababa ang dating nang 512 although sa tingin, talagang lamang ang DTX. tsaka yung design nila ay magkaiba.
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try mo i-compare yung dalawa, mas mababa ang dating nang 512 although sa tingin, talagang lamang ang DTX. tsaka yung design nila ay magkaiba.
mga pre saan mka audition ng dtx15, ang alam ko lang eh dtx10 n nkita ko s megamall showroom. ngaudition din ako ng sb100(subwoofer n 10" ang gamit) hdi sya kasing baba ng 512 pero ok n din sya for d price.yanig p rin yng showroom eh.
salamat ng madami.
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magkano ngaun ang dtx 10 and dtx15?can u compare the sound to dynaquest dq12?
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wala na rin akong makitang DTX 15" ngayon kahit sa showroom nila sa mega o sa raon. madali lang makita yun dahil sobrang laki nang speaker nun, gandang tingnan, at mahirap itago. halos magka-presyo lang sila nang usaudio dati.
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Comparing DTX 15 to US Audio 512 --- I would pick DTX 15. Mas maganda yung DTX15 kaysa US Audio 512. Malayong malayo sa performance. Huwag na kayong bumili ng DQ12. Malakas lang yung power pero bagsak yung quality ng sound. Kulang sa dumping--- umu-ugong. ;D
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Comparing DTX 15 to US Audio 512 --- I would pick DTX 15. Mas maganda yung DTX15 kaysa US Audio 512. Malayong malayo sa performance. Huwag na kayong bumili ng DQ12. Malakas lang yung power pero bagsak yung quality ng sound. Kulang sa dumping--- umu-ugong. ;D
d problem is saan kmi mgaudition? hirap talaga pglimited lang ang budget mo, pero at least good buy yng dai-ichi.
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Dun sa may raon shopping mall sa dai-chi showroom. tapos bilhin mo sa knight Audio sa raon shopping mall din around 8k+ lang. Pwede ka rin mag audition dun sa megamall sa upscale malapit din sa showroom ng dai-chi dun. Pero mahal ang price sa upscale around 11K+. Mas mura talaga pag sa raon mo bilhin.
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Hi Bro,
Does anybody knows the detailed specification of Dai-ichi (EFD60) floorstander speaker.
positive_noise.
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and also for the 15" DFX Sub! ;D Thanks...
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http://www.daiichi.ph/HOMETHEATER1.htm (http://www.daiichi.ph/HOMETHEATER1.htm)
or visit:www.daiichi.ph (http://www.daiichi.ph) :D
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Thanks bro! johndoe. ;)
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I'll check that site too.
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Check niyo yung DTX9.5T slim line series sa dai-chi website. This is a good choice for front speakers. I've auditioned this one and it really has a flat response. Heard this one as well from my friend paired with onkyo receiver --- talagang mapapawow ka sa quality ng sound niya. You can only get this speaker for only 3.8K sa raon mall... very affordable. ;D
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johndoe, thanks for the site! gumanda na rin ng konti yung webpage ng dai-chi.... ;D
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ya.no problem.dati mukang primitive ung site nila.. ;D
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Check niyo yung DTX9.5T slim line series sa dai-chi website. This is a good choice for front speakers. I've auditioned this one and it really has a flat response. Heard this one as well from my friend paired with onkyo receiver --- talagang mapapawow ka sa quality ng sound niya. You can only get this speaker for only 3.8K sa raon mall... very affordable. ;D
are u reffering to the tower or bookshelf speaker..? di kasi ako nakakapunta pang raon in my life. ;D.di ko nakita to sa megamall..
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are u reffering to the tower or bookshelf speaker..? di kasi ako nakakapunta pang raon in my life. ;D.di ko nakita to sa megamall..
Yes, I am refering to tower. I've auditioned this both at megamall and raon showroom. But if you're planning to purchase better to go to raon mas mura dun. You can get this for only 3.8K compared to the showroom which is around 5.4K (SRP). Try as well the bookshelf... it sound well. Enough for surround speaker. Try mo rin audition yung center niya kung ok... di ko kasi na try. post ka rin ng review mo pag na audition mo. tnks!
Cheers
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Yes, I am refering to tower. I've auditioned this both at megamall and raon showroom. But if you're planning to purchase better to go to raon mas mura dun. You can get this for only 3.8K compared to the showroom which is around 5.4K (SRP). Try as well the bookshelf... it sound well. Enough for surround speaker. Try mo rin audition yung center niya kung ok... di ko kasi na try. post ka rin ng review mo pag na audition mo. tnks!
Cheers
sir sang store sa raon makikita tong mga to? and me black ba? thanks
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sir sang store sa raon makikita tong mga to? and me black ba? thanks
sa Knight Audio Room sa baba lang ng Dai-ichi showroom. Tel#736-3881 or 736-3882
brown/maple lang ang available color for DTX 9.5 series.
DTX 9.5T - P3.8K
DTX 9.5B - P2.2K
DTX 9.5C - P1.8K
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sa Knight Audio Room sa baba lang ng Dai-ichi showroom. Tel#736-3881 or 736-3882
brown/maple lang ang available color for DTX 9.5 series.
DTX 9.5T - P3.8K
DTX 9.5B - P2.2K
DTX 9.5C - P1.8K
thanks sir.. comparable na din ba sya sa wharfedale diamond series? :)
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Yes, I am refering to tower. I've auditioned this both at megamall and raon showroom. But if you're planning to purchase better to go to raon mas mura dun. You can get this for only 3.8K compared to the showroom which is around 5.4K (SRP). Try as well the bookshelf... it sound well. Enough for surround speaker. Try mo rin audition yung center niya kung ok... di ko kasi na try. post ka rin ng review mo pag na audition mo. tnks!
Cheers
wow..a floorstander for 3.8k!! :o :o :osamismong dai ichi basa raon?
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wow..a floorstander for 3.8k!! :o :o :osamismong dai ichi basa raon?
Sa baba ng daichi showroom. Look for Jennifer Sy of Knight Audio Room, Tel 736-3881 or 736-3882. Tsonggo_26 is referring to this store. I actually went with him last weekend.
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sir sang store sa raon makikita tong mga to? and me black ba? thanks
Meron! May black color na daichi slim tower speakers.
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tnx for the info..makapunta na nga doon this week.pero may kasama. ;D
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hi...bakit wala sa daiichi site yung DTX15 na sub? how much is this sa showroom? sa raon? thanks!
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ganda ng prices pala ng daiichi..tempting .. im sure they sound great too
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hi...bakit wala sa daiichi site yung DTX15 na sub? how much is this sa showroom? sa raon? thanks!
i think di pa nila naupdate ung site nila.. ;)
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Hi Jairus,
I believe the DTX 15" Sub is around 8K plus.
enjoy!
positive_noise.
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how much na ngayon yun EFD series and slim line series ?
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Hi Jairus,
I believe the DTX 15" Sub is around 8K plus.
enjoy!
positive_noise.
Is that at Raon? how big is this thing? kasya ba to sa 4-door civic? If it is at raon, where is the safest parking? thanks!
BTW, is the DTX good mainly in movies or pwede rin sa music? comments please...
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Is that at Raon? how big is this thing? kasya ba to sa 4-door civic? If it is at raon, where is the safest parking? thanks!
BTW, is the DTX good mainly in movies or pwede rin sa music? comments please...
DTX is also good for music. You may test all their speakers naman at their roan showroom. Safest parking is in Isetan Recto. Lapit na lang sa showroom ng dai-chi un.
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hello guys...meron ba sila mga 7-10 inches lang na sub?
ty..... :D
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thanks sir.. comparable na din ba sya sa wharfedale diamond series? :)
I've auditioned both diamond series and this dtx series speakers and I would prefer the latter one. I like the response of the dtx 9.5T than the diamond 8.3.
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Is that at Raon? how big is this thing? kasya ba to sa 4-door civic? If it is at raon, where is the safest parking? thanks!
BTW, is the DTX good mainly in movies or pwede rin sa music? comments please...
Pare kasya yan sa trunk ng Civic mo. pwede kang magpark siguro sa gilig ng raon mall. Pero dapat may maiwan sa kotse mo baka mawala side mirror mo... ;D
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I've auditioned both diamond series and this dtx series speakers and I would prefer the latter one. I like the response of the dtx 9.5T than the diamond 8.3.
Prefer ko rin ang DTX 9.5T over the Diamond 8.3
Kaya nga bumili na ko DTX 9.5T kahapon.
Kahit Sakura AV-377 lang ang gamit ko kayang kaya.
D' best talaga ang performance considering below P4K.
DTX 9.5T Specifications:
Impedance - 6 Ohms
Sensitivity - 91dB
Freq. Response - 65Hz to 20Khz
Power Handling 140 Watts Peak
tsonggo_26,
thank nga pala kahapon sinamahan mo kami ni cebuyas_bombay (bumili rin ng DTX 9.5T kahapon) sa Raon. ;D ;D ;D
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tsonggo_26,
thank nga pala kahapon sinamahan mo kami ni cebuyas_bombay (bumili rin ng DTX 9.5T kahapon) sa Raon. ;D ;D ;D
pareng torque walang problema. Kahit next sama-sama tayo ulit para bilhin yung surround at center mo... ;D
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hello guys...meron ba sila mga 7-10 inches lang na sub?
ty..... :D
Not sure if they have dtx na less than 10" na sub. But I would suggest that you have to audition all dtx subs and you will surely convinced how well the dtx 4.15 performs (15") for its price.
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Mga bros,
i-clarify ko lang, pwede ba itong dtx 9.5 na 6 ohms lang sa receiver ko na 8 ohms ang reqmnts? -- ::)
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ganda ng prices pala ng daiichi..tempting .. im sure they sound great too
Very sure here coz I own a pair of DTX9.5T.
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Mr. Tsonggo,
Tanong ko lang if what are the input terminals and controls located at the back of the DTX 15" Subwoofer.
Thanks.
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Mga bros,
i-clarify ko lang, pwede ba itong dtx 9.5 na 6 ohms lang sa receiver ko na 8 ohms ang reqmnts? -- ::)
Pwede! wag mo lang i-drive ng todo sa receiver mo baka masira yung speakers. But if the receiver is rated below 75W rms, pwede mong i-todo yung daichi.
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Prefer ko rin ang DTX 9.5T over the Diamond 8.3
Kaya nga bumili na ko DTX 9.5T kahapon.
Kahit Sakura AV-377 lang ang gamit ko kayang kaya.
D' best talaga ang performance considering below P4K.
DTX 9.5T Specifications:
Impedance - 6 Ohms
Sensitivity - 91dB
Freq. Response - 65Hz to 20Khz
Power Handling 140 Watts Peak
tsonggo_26,
thank nga pala kahapon sinamahan mo kami ni cebuyas_bombay (bumili rin ng DTX 9.5T kahapon) sa Raon. ;D ;D ;D
Salamat na rin sa libreng taxi!!
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Yes it can. It's just a difference of 2ohms. Not that bad compared to a 4ohms impedance. Note that the speaker frequency response at 65Hz-20kHz. 6ohms is usually computed at the lowest frenquency (worst case) which is 65Hz. Above this frequency the speaker impedance is higher than 6ohms.
Just to have an Idea, we tested dtx9.5T towers set up for surround using SAKURA AV377 (output impedance front (4ohms), surround (8ohms)) and set to max volume. Still it drives the speaker well.
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Yes it can. It's just a difference of 2ohms. Not that bad compared to a 4ohms impedance. Note that the speaker frequency response at 65Hz-20kHz. 6ohms is usually computed at the lowest frenquency (worst case) which is 65Hz. Above this frequency the speaker impedance is higher than 6ohms.
Just to have an Idea, we tested dtx9.5T towers set up for surround using SAKURA AV377 (output impedance front (4ohms), surround (8ohms)) and set to max volume. Still it drives the speaker well.
oh yeah! i was there...
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Mr. Tsonggo,
Tanong ko lang if what are the input terminals and controls located at the back of the DTX 15" Subwoofer.
Thanks.
Hi Bullet,
Di ko na notice kung ano ang input terminals na nagamit pero yung mga controls nasa likod and yung speaker is front firing with 3 port holes sa harap.
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Yes it can. It's just a difference of 2ohms. Not that bad compared to a 4ohms impedance. Note that the speaker frequency response at 65Hz-20kHz. 6ohms is usually computed at the lowest frenquency (worst case) which is 65Hz. Above this frequency the speaker impedance is higher than 6ohms.
Just to have an Idea, we tested dtx9.5T towers set up for surround using SAKURA AV377 (output impedance front (4ohms), surround (8ohms)) and set to max volume. Still it drives the speaker well.
bro, thx for the info--- ;D
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Hi Bro,
I believe its only one port! ;D
positive_noise.
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Hi Bro,
I believe its only one port! ;D
positive_noise.
Oh yes, you're right. I stand corrected... ;D
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Hi Bro,
One of my friends bought a dtx 9.5 and sakura combination! And i tell you the set-up is very acceptable for an entry level! Or yet best buy for it's price! :D
However, i notice the bass is a little bit lacking in some response! (or kulang sa bilog). But with additional sub, its a good remedy for that band hole.
With regards to the naturalness of sound, i notice that some sound reproduction is not accurate as it should be! i.e. if source sounds "tik!" and when amplified with a better set-up it should also sound "TIK!" (Only amplified). But with this set-up combination, the source "tik!" sounded "TEK!" But if your ears are not that selective you can hardly notice it.
If your just new comer in the audio hobby! dtx and sakura set-up is a very good start up!
enjoy!
positive_noise. ;D
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Hi Bro,
One of my friends bought a dtx 9.5 and sakura combination! And i tell you the set-up is very acceptable for an entry level! Or yet best buy for it's price! :D
However, i notice the bass is a little bit lacking in some response! (or kulang sa bilog). But with additional sub, its a good remedy for that band hole.
With regards to the naturalness of sound, i notice that some sound reproduction is not accurate as it should be! i.e. if source sounds "tik!" and when amplified with a better set-up it should also sound "TIK!" (Only amplified). But with this set-up combination, the source "tik!" sounded "TEK!" But if your ears are not that selective you can hardly notice it.
If your just new comer in the audio hobby! dtx and sakura set-up is a very good start up!
enjoy!
positive_noise. ;D
Maganda ba yung RCA?
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Maganda ba yung RCA?
Depende sa amp... ;D
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Maybe someone can review the 9.5 connected to popular AVRs such as Yamaha, Denon, Marantz, HK, NAD etc and hear how the speakers respond to these receivers.
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Depende sa amp... ;D
Hi Bro,
Exactly the same as i'm pointing out before...! It depends on the receiver, speaker etc...
enjoy!
positive_noise. ;)
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Maybe someone can review the 9.5 connected to popular AVRs such as Yamaha, Denon, Marantz, HK, NAD etc and hear how the speakers respond to these receivers.
I have tried the 9.5 on an ONKYO TSRX600 and it really sounds better if not best. The sound reproduction of the high freq and mid band as well as the sub (65-100Hz) on a stereo mode is astonishing. On a 5.1 setup, when paired with US Audio sub, the performance of the combination could be at par using Mission speakers. But that is still subjective. It would be nice to hear comments from other users.
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Maganda ba yung RCA?
I believe this is not the right forum for the topic! ;D
positive_noise. ;)
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I believe this is not the right forum for the topic! ;D
positive_noise. ;)
Positive_noise,
Mag post kanaman ng review sa RCA na trend yung review mo. I've heard you have a good set up using RCA speakers and a Crest Audio Amp.
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Next big question here is the durability??
My first stereo speakers, purchased in 1978, were a big pair of 3-way, 5-speaker Dai-chis with 12-inch woofers. After 22 years of moderate use, hindi man lang nagbago ang tunog. I gave them away in 2000, and except for a few holes on the cloth grilles, they're still in tip-top shape to this day.
In December 2001, I bought a US Audio 5.1 set (a Dai-ichi brand), and I'm very happy with it. Kinuha ko na yung pinakamalaking US Audio towers - mura lang naman kasi, e. Pls view my HT pics on Reply # 739: http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=11;action=display;threadid=1788;start=720
Is it true that Dai-ichi has a lifetime warranty on all of their speakers? Ang balita ko, pag nasira, dalhin mo sa kanila, aayusin nila for free regardless of when or where it was purchased. No need to bring a receipt.
If true, then it only shows that they have a lot of confidence in their products.
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Positive_noise,
Mag post kanaman ng review sa RCA na trend yung review mo. I've heard you have a good set up using RCA speakers and a Crest Audio Amp.
Hi Bro,
Oks comment na lang ako sa RCA Speakers forum! Meanwhile, Musta na yung set-up ni cebuyas_bombay ??? i heard he just recently buy dtx & sakura last Wednesday! Hows the performance???
enjoy!
positive_noise. ;D
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My first stereo speakers, purchased in 1978, were a big pair of 3-way, 5-speaker Dai-chis with 12-inch woofers. After 22 years of moderate use, hindi man lang nagbago ang tunog. I gave them away in 2000, and except for a few holes on the cloth grilles, they're still in tip-top shape to this day.
In December 2001, I bought a US Audio 5.1 set (a Dai-ichi brand), and I'm very happy with it. Kinuha ko na yung pinakamalaking US Audio towers - mura lang naman kasi, e. Pls view my HT pics on Reply # 739: http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=11;action=display;threadid=1788;start=720
Is it true that Dai-ichi has a lifetime warranty on all of their speakers? Ang balita ko, pag nasira, dalhin mo sa kanila, aayusin nila for free regardless of when or where it was purchased. No need to bring a receipt.
If true, then it only shows that they have a lot of confidence in their products.
Barrister, Thanks for the info. I am now more confident buying the DAI-ICHI Dtx slim series 5.1 set up. ;D
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the slim line series of dtx are easy to drive so paired with a capable receiver should bring out good results..bang for buck, for ht they are very much ok. A shop in raon uses an old nad amp to demo dai-1chi speakers and they sound good, I just like the custom made speakers from nirvblakr better. opinion lang po :)
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Hi Bro,
Oks comment na lang ako sa RCA Speakers forum! Meanwhile, Musta na yung set-up ni cebuyas_bombay ??? i heard he just recently buy dtx & sakura last Wednesday! Hows the performance???
enjoy!
positive_noise. ;D
I'm satisfied with the DTX speakers. Come and visit me some time, I'll show you the setup. yhtfif.
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Is it already dtx 5.1 speakers setup?
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I'm satisfied with the DTX speakers. Come and visit me some time, I'll show you the setup. yhtfif.
as i saw your set-up last thursday! your set-up yhtfif...! ;D ;D ;D
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I think my post on Sakura thread should also be posted here ;)
I was able to carefully listen to my Sakura-DTX 9.5T stereo set-up last weekend. The set-up sounded OK on my Band of Brothers and Ice Age DVDs. I played some of my dance and re-mixes CDs like New Wave Mega Mix One and Two and Re-Activate and they also sounded good. But when I played CDs from Pearl Jam, Nirvana, REM and U2 oh crap! It did not sound like they are my favorite bands. I then tried my Diana Krall DVD, DK’s voice is great but the sound of guitar, piano and cymbals are lacking.
DTX 9.5T paired with budget amp like Sakura is OK on movies. On music, it depends on what type of music you are playing. My Sakura-DTX 9.5T set up lacks detail and clarity. The sound of DTX 9.5T will definitely improve when paired with branded receiver.
To compensate for lack of detail and clarity on my set-up, I’ve connected my Cambridge satellite speakers on DTX 9.5T. Now, I have the good mid-bass sound DTX 9.5T and the detail and clarity of mid-high sound of Cambridge satellite speakers.
HAPPY ;D ;D ;D
SATISFIED? ::)
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how much bli mo sa dtx tower speakers? ;)
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how much bli mo sa dtx tower speakers? ;)
P3,800 at Raon Shopping Center
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wow.. :o i might get this one..
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Any reviews on DTX 9.5B bookshelf and DTX 9.5C center speakers? And how much would be the cost?
(http://www.daiichi.ph/SLIMLINE.gif)
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DTX 9.5B --- 2.2K
DTX 9.5C --- 1.8K
Pare Sigma-Delta, sa raon shopping mall mo bilhin.
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DTX 9.5B --- 2.2K
DTX 9.5C --- 1.8K
Pare Sigma-Delta, sa raon shopping mall mo bilhin.
mura naman nung mga speakers na to.. :) me bookshelf ka na and center for almost the price of the diamond center.. :)
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Yah right, this is a good start to those who are tight of budget and performance wise are comparable to those branded entry level speakers... especially the towers DTX9.5T (3.8K).
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mura naman nung mga speakers na to.. :) me bookshelf ka na and center for almost the price of the diamond center.. :)
Tama ka bro na halos magkaprice lang ito sa Diamond Center but i heard them both mas accurate ang sound reproduction ng Whafedale Diamond if you compare them closely... That is because of the material they are using., Kevlar! This is the same material used by some High-End Speakers...
just my 1 cent.
enjoy!
positive_noise. ;D
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mas mura ba sa raon compared sa mega?
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How much ang surround speakers nila? Pwede ba gumamit ng sats as surround speakers in combination with the DTX9.5B and DTX 9.5C? I'm considering this as an alternative to the Yamaha NSP 230 kasi.
Open ba stores sa Raon on Sundays?
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mga bro,
pansin ko medyo maliit DTX 9.5 bookshelf. ano ba ang performance nito sa malaking space? 36 sqm ung HT area ko at open pa---pwede kaya ito?
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i think yes..but considering its impendance which is 6 ohms..and if ur a/v reciever is rated 100w at 8 ohms..cguro pag high volume..medyo magddistort ung sound..the bookshelf is rated 100w max at 6ohms
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DTX 9.5B --- 2.2K
DTX 9.5C --- 1.8K
its 4k+ 3800 for the floorstanders.. :o :o at less than 10k complete na! :o ;D :o
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i think yes..but considering its impendance which is 6 ohms..and if ur a/v reciever is rated 100w at 8 ohms..cguro pag high volume..medyo magddistort ung sound..the bookshelf is rated 100w max at 6ohms
m very thankful for this info. kasi 8 ohms minimum to 16 ohms maximum ang receiver ko.
pero john, if ever e-add ko na lang itong dtx 9.5 bookshelf sa present set up ko, meaning e-series ko mga speakers so that the total load of my receiver is 14 ohms per channel and still within the allowable load of my receiver ano kaya ang effect?
i need some more HIGHS on my setup kasi kaya im thinking of adding na lang itong dtx 9.5 sa present set of speakers ko-- thnks for any comments
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How much ang surround speakers nila? Pwede ba gumamit ng sats as surround speakers in combination with the DTX9.5B and DTX 9.5C? I'm considering this as an alternative to the Yamaha NSP 230 kasi.
Open ba stores sa Raon on Sundays?
Kung maliit lang naman yung room pwede mong gamitin to na front speaker mo yung DTX9.5B paired with sub.
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Kung maliit lang naman yung room pwede mong gamitin to na front speaker mo yung DTX9.5B paired with sub.
How much ang satellite nila?
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m very thankful for this info. kasi 8 ohms minimum to 16 ohms maximum ang receiver ko.
pero john, if ever e-add ko na lang itong dtx 9.5 bookshelf sa present set up ko, meaning e-series ko mga speakers so that the total load of my receiver is 14 ohms per channel and still within the allowable load of my receiver ano kaya ang effect?
i need some more HIGHS on my setup kasi kaya im thinking of adding na lang itong dtx 9.5 sa present set of speakers ko-- thnks for any comments
well..cguro wla nman mgging effect..dahil up to 16ohms nman ang kaya ng reciever mo.. :D it will definitely add some HIGHS and MIDs narin to ur present system..and pinakamaganda..affordable.. ;D
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How much ang surround speakers nila? Pwede ba gumamit ng sats as surround speakers in combination with the DTX9.5B and DTX 9.5C? I'm considering this as an alternative to the Yamaha NSP 230 kasi.
Open ba stores sa Raon on Sundays?
pangit ba ang sounds ng nsp230? how about the sub?
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mga bro,
pansin ko medyo maliit DTX 9.5 bookshelf. ano ba ang performance nito sa malaking space? 36 sqm ung HT area ko at open pa---pwede kaya ito?
......just a follow up...........anyone have a good review on bookshelf type????
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pangit ba ang sounds ng nsp230? how about the sub?
Haven't auditioned the nsp230. Pero accd'g to some forumers here medyo bitin daw. That's why I'm looking for a better alternative for roughly the same budget
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Bakit ngapala malambot ang tweeter ng DTX tower speaker? Parang madaling masira? Ok lang ba ito?
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its a soft dome tweeter.. ;) wla namang problem un..basta dont exceed the max capacity limit of the speakers... :)
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Question is... how does this soft dome tweeter performs on high frequencies? This is with regards to its clarity and quality in conversions of signal.
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Question is... how does this soft dome tweeter performs on high frequencies? This is with regards to its clarity and quality in conversions of signal.
Parang kulang, torque and i evaluated this problem using sakura receiver, this is the basic reason why we need to test if this is isolated using yamaha receiver. To add some high freq, torque paralleled an old yet reliable cambridge satellite to compensate the mid and high freq. Malaki ang difference nito if you're listening to an acoustic concert or an open space concert (DVD).
Torque, ano uwi ko muna ang DTX mo para ma-test?
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Hi sigma-delta,
Dalhin mo na lang yung receiver kina torque para mapakinggan din namin. I'm thinking to have this speakers paired with yamaha 630 or denon 1803. Will this be a good match?
Cheers!
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I believe mas practical dalhin yung receiver kaysa Tower Speaker... Pumayag kana sigma-delta para madinig na natin! ;)
positive_noise. ;D
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sama niyo naman ako diyan!!!
7621 lang local ko. hehehe
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I think my post on Sakura thread should also be posted here ;)
I was able to carefully listen to my Sakura-DTX 9.5T stereo set-up last weekend. The set-up sounded OK on my Band of Brothers and Ice Age DVDs. I played some of my dance and re-mixes CDs like New Wave Mega Mix One and Two and Re-Activate and they also sounded good. But when I played CDs from Pearl Jam, Nirvana, REM and U2 oh s**t! It did not sound like they are my favorite bands. I then tried my Diana Krall DVD, DK’s voice is great but the sound of guitar, piano and cymbals are lacking.
DTX 9.5T paired with budget amp like Sakura is OK on movies. On music, it depends on what type of music you are playing. My Sakura-DTX 9.5T set up lacks detail and clarity. The sound of DTX 9.5T will definitely improve when paired with branded receiver.
To compensate for lack of detail and clarity on my set-up, I’ve connected my Cambridge satellite speakers on DTX 9.5T. Now, I have the good mid-bass sound DTX 9.5T and the detail and clarity of mid-high sound of Cambridge satellite speakers.
HAPPY ;D ;D ;D
SATISFIED? ::)
After a week of used, my DTX 9.5T speakers sounded a lot better now. The double midbass woofer have already loosen up and I can hear clearer mid and deeper bass response. I can hear rhythm when playing audio CDs, unlike before medyo stiff ang sound. I think playing my Re-Activate CD every afternoon helps a lot. I also played my Diana Krall DVD last night and I can now hear the clear sounds of the guitar, piano and cymbals. I'm convinced that even if I disconnect my Cambridge satellite speakers I will still enjoy the sounds coming from my DTX 9.5T speakers.
Speaker break-in lang pala ang problema ::)
Best buy talaga!
;D ;D ;D
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lalo ko natetempt bumili ;D
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its 4k+ 3800 for the floorstanders.. :o :o at less than 10k complete na! :o ;D :o
Di na ba kailangan ng subwoofer pag floorstanders?
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Pwede mo munang pagtiyagaan yung towers niya para sa sub. Maganda rin kasi yung tapon ng bass nito. Yung lower freq niya is around 65Hz but some says it could go down to 50Hz kaya pwedeng-pwede. Save ka na lang later para sa sub and besure to buy a good one for your sub.
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ok lang pag wlang sub..but di ganon kadetaliado ang sound and frequency response pag wlang sub.. ;) in the meantime be contented muna dun sa floorstanders habang wla ka pang sub..
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If budget will permit, try to get a sub in the near future. You will enjoy your system more specially those movies with lots of LFEs.
:D
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After a week of used, my DTX 9.5T speakers sounded a lot better now. The double midbass woofer have already loosen up and I can hear clearer mid and deeper bass response. I can hear rhythm when playing audio CDs, unlike before medyo stiff ang sound. I think playing my Re-Activate CD every afternoon helps a lot. I also played my Diana Krall DVD last night and I can now hear the clear sounds of the guitar, piano and cymbals. I'm convinced that even if I disconnect my Cambridge satellite speakers I will still enjoy the sounds coming from my DTX 9.5T speakers.
Speaker break-in lang pala ang problema ::)
Best buy talaga!
;D ;D ;D
so ok na sya sa music???? does the sakura amp have controls for the center and rear volume?
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so ok na sya sa music???? does the sakura amp have controls for the center and rear volume?
yup, may controls for center and rear.
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yup, may controls for center and rear.
Not in all models.
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cebuyas_bombay,
balita ko bumili ka raw ng US Audio floorstander...
kailan namin pakikinggan ang set-up mo?
front: US Audio tower
rear: DTX tower
anong balak mo sa center DTX, US Audio, Wharfe...
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Not in all models.
yes, not in all models...
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cebuyas_bombay,
balita ko bumili ka raw ng US Audio floorstander...
kailan namin pakikinggan ang set-up mo?
front: US Audio tower
rear: DTX tower
anong balak mo sa center DTX, US Audio, Wharfe...
Sama ako diyan. Kailan ba? ;D
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Sama ako diyan. Kailan ba? ;D
Imbitado daw lahat ng taga-pinoydvd sa DTX-DTS-sakura-NB audition kina cebuyas_bombay.
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We just auditioned a US AUDIO floor stander and DTX slim. I can say I am satisfied with US AUDIO, basicaly reflecting the price vs the wharfes 8.1 sale value> this one is good for the bucks. I will consider this baby for front speakers.
Cebuyas_bombay, what model is it? Specs? Pix will be nice. Two thumbs up!
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We just auditioned a US AUDIO floor stander and DTX slim. I can say I am satisfied with US AUDIO, basicaly reflecting the price vs the wharfes 8.1 sale value> this one is good for the bucks. I will consider this baby for front speakers.
Cebuyas_bombay, what model is it? Specs? Pix will be nice. Two thumbs up!
Model: US660B (US Audio)
Rating: 120W rms
Sensitivity: 89dB
Freq Range: 65Hz to 20Khz
Impedance: 6 ohms.
Net Wt: 15kg
I've bought it at GETZ Sales Center in Raon near Knight Audio, price pegged at 4235php.
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cebuyas_bombay,
balita ko bumili ka raw ng US Audio floorstander...
kailan namin pakikinggan ang set-up mo?
front: US Audio tower
rear: DTX tower
anong balak mo sa center DTX, US Audio, Wharfe...
I planned to buy the Wharfe 8c for the center. For the sub, kukunin ko na lang yung DTX 15" sa Knight Audio. Probably within the week.
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Wow! mukhang yayanig yung bahay mo sa DTX 15 na sub ah. Audition naman natin yan!!! ;D
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Wow! mukhang yayanig yung bahay mo sa DTX 15 na sub ah. Audition naman natin yan!!! ;D
No probs.
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mga pare....kahapon nagpunta ako dun sa megamall showroom kasi pinaayos ko yung sattelite ko na nasira kasi medyo naitodo ko yung ampli ko eh...sayang...wala na yata silang CT-813 tower dun. yung kasi yung nabili ko last year. ang set up ko is sony mini component them AV-502 Konzert Amplifier. Hanggang ngayon wala pa ko naririnig na set-up na mas ok kesa sa setup ko nga dre...naisip ko nga dati na mag add ng sub pero yung mga sub na ino audition ko parang mas swabe pa yung tower ko eh.......kaya di na ko bumili ng sub......I tell you dre..dai-ichi is under rated hi end speaker.
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wow anong size ng drivers nayan at napakalakas naman compared sa sub
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mga pare....kahapon nagpunta ako dun sa megamall showroom kasi pinaayos ko yung sattelite ko na nasira kasi medyo naitodo ko yung ampli ko eh...sayang...wala na yata silang CT-813 tower dun. yung kasi yung nabili ko last year. ang set up ko is sony mini component them AV-502 Konzert Amplifier. Hanggang ngayon wala pa ko naririnig na set-up na mas ok kesa sa setup ko nga dre...naisip ko nga dati na mag add ng sub pero yung mga sub na ino audition ko parang mas swabe pa yung tower ko eh.......kaya di na ko bumili ng sub......I tell you dre..dai-ichi is under rated hi end speaker.
Pre, ang lupit naman ng tower mo. Ano ba ang bandwidth nyan? I agree with you that dai-ichis are underated speakers.
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Anong demensions ng Dtx Bookshelf?
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guys, maybe we could ask the megamall showroom if we could bring wharfedale speakers so that we could conclusively compare the sound quality.
was in image last thursday and the daichi guys are demonstrating the new dtx speakers. bs at 5400 and the ctr at 4500. hayop sa ganda ang tunog. para yatang puede mong i compare sa monitor audio sa bass. they are exporting this in australia using the brand eross (?).
please reply and we could finalize the date.
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was in image last thursday and the daichi guys are demonstrating the new dtx speakers. bs at 5400 and the ctr at 4500. hayop sa ganda ang tunog. para yatang puede mong i compare sa monitor audio sa bass. they are exporting this in australia using the brand eross (?).
theman,
what are the model nos. of these new dtx speakers?
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the new book shelf speakers are the ef d50 selling at 5,400 per pair and the ef d55c as centerspeaker selling at 4,000. i heard the ef d50 that can be compared to high end speakers like monitor audio.
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theman,
what are the model nos. of these new dtx speakers?
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theman,
You're talking about the EFD series pala. I've already heard these speakers and their quality and built are definitely for export. As I posted before this EFD series is better than the Wharfedale Diamond...peace to wharfe owners, that is just my opinion. ;) :D ;D
i called up jennifer and ito daw ang mga presyo ng mga sumosunod:
EFD 60 tower (floorstander)- 15T less 10%
EFD 55 SC (Bookshelf) - 5.4T less 10%
EFD 50 CC - 4T less 10%
mas mahal to kesa diamond series ng wharf. ano kaya mas ok in terms of performance? ::)
Diamond 8.4 and 8.3 compared to EFD 60. mas ok yung performance ng EFD 60 mas mahal lang nga.
Diamond 8.1 and 8.2 compared to EFD 55. mas maganda ang EFD 55. mas malakas ang bato ng bass. almost the same price lang ng wharfedale bookshelf speakers.
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theman,
You're talking about the EFD series pala. I've already heard these speakers and their quality and built are definitely for export. As I posted before this EFD series is better than the Wharfedale Diamond...peace to wharfe owners, that is just my opinion. ;) :D ;D
Hi sir, is it better than wharfs? In what category?
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yung CT-813 na dai-ichi speaker ko kasi yung nakalagay sa specs ay 400w max. (unclipped) and yung frequency response ay 40hz to 40khz. and yung ampli ko 250w per channel, kaya siguro yung sound pressure ang tindi kasi malakas yung ampli. yung ibang sub kasi na 100w like maurdant ba yon?.....yung nasa sm. in audition ko pero hindi ako na impressed eh.....pati yung iba dun sa sm di ko na maremember yung brand. and nung sinabi ko nga dun sa sales clerk na nag assist sa akin set-up ko sabi wag daw bababa sa 200w na sub kung gusto ko talagang mag add ng sub. siguro natutuwa lang ako sa set-up ko kaya akala ko magandang maganda na yun. he he he ....sempre naman dapt unang nakaka appreciate ng set-up natin di bah?
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one thing pa nga pla.....napansin ko lang dun sa dai-ichi showroom sa megamall........nung ino audition ko ct-813 ko nung bibili pa lang ako na impressed na ko pero nung dun na sa bahay namin parang mas ok ang sounds.....mas ok ang bass and imaging...siguro nagkatalo sa source or sa reciever or sa ampli.....
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i wud like to buy a dai-ichi active SUB,
meron bang mga 8" na <5K ang price.
is there something cheaper than the
dtx 4.10?
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i am new at this hobby, but with what I have read regarding the performnace of the Daiichi Speakers, I am very much tempted to change my existing set-up. Right now I have a Yamaha for my AVR and Bose speakers for Front, Rear and Center. With the negative comments I have read in one of the treads regarding Bose speakers parang gusto ko na ito palitan ng Daiichi. Will this be a wise decision? Please help... ??? ???
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Dude,
Advice is to audition... something good for others might not be good for you. ;)
i am new at this hobby, but with what I have read regarding the performnace of the Daiichi Speakers, I am very much tempted to change my existing set-up. Right now I have a Yamaha for my AVR and Bose speakers for Front, Rear and Center. With the negative comments I have read in one of the treads regarding Bose speakers parang gusto ko na ito palitan ng Daiichi. Will this be a wise decision? Please help... ??? ???
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Presars, tnx for the advice, I will go to Megamall Daiichi and audition some of their models. will it be critical to tell them the model of my AVR and the size of the room? I was at Shangrilla last saturday in one of the HT shops there to ask for a sub and people there are not that accomodating, they will always answer "depende sa size of room". sorry for my questions as I mentioned Iam new at this. Thanks again.
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Hi Von,
If you are going to audition those speakers from dai-ichi showroom, please do audition also your present bose speaker at their own showroom.
Bose is a nice speaker also at para maging fair ang laban, dapat sa parehong room mo sila marinig, not just comparing your setup sa showroom nang dai-ichi, tagilid ang bose mo kasi acoustic na ang room nila dun. Maraming negative comments sa bose kasi masyadong mataas ang presyo nila at makakakuha ka na nang mas magandang speaker gaya nang mission or even B&W with that price.
Your comparing a bose to dai-ichi, pero pag sinabi mong sa mission ka nate-temp...no comment na ako.
Mahirap maniwala sa sabi-sabi...
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the bose you have is adequate for ht, you might just want to get the dai-ichi sub to aid the acoustimass sub (if you have one) in the bass dept. no need to change the speakers.
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:) I am a newly member of this site and I want to post my Dai-ichi ct-9.5t for sale. I used the tower for 3months and the reason for selling is to upgrade for other brands. Anyone interested can call/txt me at 09177498914, thanks
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Hi Raycor, welcome to pinoydvd.
No selling allowed here, please use Assorted Buy and Sell section. Thank you
Levi
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von.
if you will audition the Dai-ichi speakers at their Megamall showroom, also drop-by at Upscale Audio (1 or 2 shops away from Dai-ichi) and try to audition the Mission speakers. Don’t worry people at Upscale are very nice.
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the bose you have is adequate for ht, you might just want to get the dai-ichi sub to aid the acoustimass sub (if you have one) in the bass dept. no need to change the speakers.
I agree with john5479, just get a good sub.
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von, ok dun sa showroom ng dai-ichi sa megamall, accomodating naman sila. advice lang dre, bago ka pumunta don para mag audition ng speaker. patugtugin mo muna sa bahay nyo yung favorite mong cd's. kung maaari nga kabisaduhin mo yung tunog eh.....parang internalize ba!......then yun ang gamitin mo pag mag audition ka ng speakers nila. ako kasi ganon eh....dinala namin nung kapatid ko yung favorite cd namin. nung pinatugtog na dun.unang dinig ko pa lang.....sabi ko sa sarili ko "ito na ang kukunin ko" and magugulat ka sa price nila....affordable talaga. yung nga lang di na ko nag audition ng iba. anyway......solved naman ako eh...habang tumatagal parang lalong gumaganda sa pandinig ko...he he he sarap pang mag sounds sa gabi pag tahimik na. kahit mahina ok pa rin eh. hayyy.sarap lang ng hobby na to. kahit magastos ok lang. btw dre, lifetime warranty ng speakers nila.
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von, share ko lang experienced ko. kasi maliit lang yung sala namin kung saan naka set-up yung speakers ko. ang binili ko that time ay yung pinaka malakas nilang speaker, naka sale kasi eh (saka ang pogi ng porma). pag medyo nilakas ko punong puno ng sounds ang bahay namin.....minsan kasi gusto kong mag lakas ng volume eh.....so pag malakas ang volume.....dun ako nakikinig sa terrace namin....... ;Dhe he he . pero pag sa movie na ok lang yung nabili ko.......lalo yung action, yung mga blastings at barilan......hay nako......di lang kami magkasundo ng misis ko pag action na pinapanuod eh.....nagugulat sya pag may nagbabarilan at may sumasabog. saka pag may chopper na dumadaan. :)gusto kasi puro romance eh.
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von, :)agree ako kay 45mm, sempre pag showroom/demo room nila acoustic na yon para maganda ang dating ng speakers nila, mag kakaalaman na lang pag dating sa bahay pag naka set-up na. kasi ako impressed ako nung nasa show room eh......pero nung nasa bahay na namin.....iba na ang dating..... ;Dmas gumanda sa pandinig ko......experienced ko lang to ha. almost 1 yr na speaker ko pero mula ng mabili ko. parang mas gumanda pa ang tunog kesa nung una. na break-in na siguro ng husto.
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meron pala demo daichi sa parksqaure1...ung floorstandiing and sats nila...ayus din ang tunog...meron din yung sa katabi nila or sa kabili jbl eon,mission etc naman ;D
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madami salamat sa lahat ng inputs, now nagkaroon ako ng idea on what to do kapag nag audition. you guys have been a great help specially to a novice like me. thanks again :D :D
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von,i have bose satellite speakers too,
they sound good to my ear naman...
i am changing my (acoustimass5 series2) sub,
kasi i need an active sub for my kenwood
receiver. i plan to buy DTX 4.10 sana or the
US Audio 8" sub...
i agree with them, depende rin siguro sa setup,
and sa personal preferences mo sa sound.
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ok nman ung dtx and dai-ichi subs eh.. 8)
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To levi,
Sorry sir, I am really a freshman here and its my first time to be log on here. Anyway, thanks for the suggestions....
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No problem
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Daiichi fans,
may product display sa lobby ng ParkSquare 1 for Daichi Products: US Audio, DTX, etc.
Medyo magaganda yung mga nakadisplay.. mid to high-end level.. its worth the look.
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to add: may mga naka-display din na mga tube amp, mission speakers at mga receiver.
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Daiichi fans,
may product display sa lobby ng ParkSquare 1 for Daichi Products: US Audio, DTX, etc.
Medyo magaganda yung mga nakadisplay.. mid to high-end level.. its worth the look.
Bossing hanggang kelan kaya ang display nito? Mas ok kaya ito against wharfs? Anyone can post your comments para inputs na rin. Im planning eighter to get wharf 8.3, or DTX floor stander, or mission. price wise mukhang mas ok ang DTX. Your opinion pls. Receiver is yamaha 430.
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get a mission speaker if you have the budget.
dai-ichi & wharfe compared to mission...night and day!
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ipon ka na lang para sa mission pre, para wala nang upgrade. kung bibili ka nang wharf o kaya dtx. tigil mo rin magbasa dito para di ka na mag-upgrade.
Based on my experience kasi, unang nabili ko is wharf 8.3, nagpalit ako nang yamaha NS7390 then nagpalit ulit ako nang wharf 8.4 then ngayon wala na 8.4 ko, magiging final na siguro ang m73i para sa akin pagbili ko.
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sigma delta,
Try to listen to those speakers and find out which one really suits your listening pleasure. Rank them from your first choice to the last in terms their performance based on your audition (condition your mind that all factors being equal).
Then after you have ranked them now is the time to factor the cost benifit analysis of these speakers with reference to your budget. If you are better off with those speakers that are priced lower and suits your taste, then by all means go ahead and enjoy your system end derive endless hours of pleasure from it.
BTW, I have chosen the Mission 73i vs. the Wharfs when I was setting up my HT. IMHO the performance of the mission far outweighs the price difference since I consider my speakers as a long term investment.
Just an unsolicited advise.
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Greetings!
To owners of DTX9.5T, do you think it can stand alone without a sub, especially for music listening only?
Thank you.
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yes..but meron pa ding kulang..lalo na pag pnapakinggan mo mraming bass extensions.. 8) mas mganda parin pag may subwoofer..
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get a mission speaker if you have the budget.
dai-ichi & wharfe compared to mission...night and day!
well..not all wharfs...a well broken in 8.1 can go toe to toe with an m72 but if you can't wait for the 8.1s to break in then get the missions. I even have a cheaper bookshelf speaker that betters an m72 if sound quality is the only concern.
But if your auditioning sa shops most likely you'll go with the missions since they sound good out of the box and a lot of the posters here are using missions, just presenting you though with other options :) for branded speakers monitor audio bronze series is another option :)
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Bossing hanggang kelan kaya ang display nito? Mas ok kaya ito against wharfs? Anyone can post your comments para inputs na rin. Im planning eighter to get wharf 8.3, or DTX floor stander, or mission. price wise mukhang mas ok ang DTX. Your opinion pls. Receiver is yamaha 430.
meron pa demo pre.....meron din bago yung slim ng daiichi....looks good!....sounds better kaya?...hehehehe di kasi nakakabit e
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ipon ka na lang para sa mission pre, para wala nang upgrade. kung bibili ka nang wharf o kaya dtx. tigil mo rin magbasa dito para di ka na mag-upgrade.
totoo yan...hehehe... dati kala ko, ok na ung set-up ko.. but when I began browsing thru PinoyDVD's HT topics, puro upgrade nasa utak ko! ;D
Pag ndi ka talaga tumigil dito, wala din tigil pag-upgrade mo...hehehe ;D
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Guys,
Before buying Dai-Ichi, think twice. The Dai-Ichi Subwoofer that is packaged with the HTD-302 is not really 5.1 because it is getting its input signal from the left and right channel input, instead of the subwoofer input. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
The subwoofer input is NOT WORKING!!! This was also confirmed by the Megamall Showrrom of Dai-Ichi (Angie). Actually Angie was also surprised (???) about what she found out and said that she will file a complaint to the head office.
Just to warn you guys, before you buy!
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Probably some problem in her setup of the player. I tested the sub, removed the left, right and center and rear connections, left the sub input attached only. Played EP2 starwars, sub was running ok.
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DOHbert,
what is your set-up? Do you also have the DCS302?
??? :)
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DOHbert,
Is your subwoofer the one with internal amplifier? or your subwoofer is just the active one?
The set-up I was talking about is the DVD player already has a decoder, then the line signal output was connected to the subwoofer with built-in amplifier (all 6 RCA cables was connected). When speaker test is done all speakers work! However, when all the RCA, except the subwoofer, was disconnected and speaker test was once again done, there was nary a sound from the subwoofer. The left and right RCA was again connected (pulling out the subwoofer RCA this time) and the speaker test was once again started. The left and right speakers was ok but the subwoofer also made noise when it should have not been. ??? ???
I hope you can help me why and how to correct the set-up.
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yep, im using the powered sub with 5 outputs for front, center and rears. The same one used in htd302. However, im using a kebao player, not a daichi. I did exactly the same test ya did, the subwoofer played fine by itself. Even with the tones test of the player it played fine. With or without the fronts, center and rears attached. Probably a setup problem with the player itself, audio is probably downmixed. Hope this helps.
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dohbert,the speakers ba are powered na?how much did u bought it? 8)
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Bought whole set for 15k, sold the daichi player. Self-powered yung sub, yung satellites, dcs302. Problema ko sa sub, solid and buo, medyo matigas pa since bago, pero may kalampag. Parang plak plak plak yung tumutonog pag talagang malakas na and low frequency sya.
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wala ka reciever na kinabit?kinabit mo lang sa back panel ng sub lahat?is that right
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Bought whole set for 15k, sold the daichi player. Self-powered yung sub, yung satellites, dcs302. Problema ko sa sub, solid and buo, medyo matigas pa since bago, pero may kalampag. Parang plak plak plak yung tumutonog pag talagang malakas na and low frequency sya.
plak plak? baka nag bottom out na yung sub.
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Yep levi, that's what im guessing, nag bottom out sya. Have to test it some more. Walang receiver kailangan johndoe, yung 5.1 out ng player directly connected sa likod ng powered sub, tapos 5 satellites get their power from the amp of the sub.
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sir, mayroon po bang package na di kasama ung player? if there is, magkano price?
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Yep levi, that's what im guessing, nag bottom out sya. Have to test it some more. Walang receiver kailangan johndoe, yung 5.1 out ng player directly connected sa likod ng powered sub, tapos 5 satellites get their power from the amp of the sub.
whats ur sub pla?
i think meron package na ganun ung dai ichi click here (http://www.daiichi.ph) 8)
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The model number for the sub is dcs5100as, yung satellites, dcs 302. According to daichi dealers, ayaw pa ng daichi ibenta ng hiwalayan, dapat buong set kasama dvd player ang kuha. In fact, yung satellites ay hinold ng daichi ang distribution para ma-ipair nila sa htd hometheater set na ito.
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tnx for the info.. :D
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if you are really keen on buying the Dai-Ichi HT set, just go to Raon, sa Knight store (Audio Room) look for Jenny, she will give you the best price for the set. Sa ibaba lang ito ng showroom ng Dai-Ichi sa Raon, fronting Quezon Blvd.
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sir, mayroon po bang package na di kasama ung player? if there is, magkano price?
Dre, why you want go to HT package (front, center surround)?.... :)just asking
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dont know kung natanong na ito but..
i know that same lang silang dai ichi pero which is better dtx or us audio floorstanders?
in terms of clarity, bass..etc..and how much do both cost?
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tunkol sa tibay, bumili kuya ko dati (90's pa) ng 8" woofer, hanggang ngayun ayos pa din maski na araw-araw eh naka set ang amp ko sa 11 (ala "Spinal Tap"). I also use the speakers for my electric guitar, maniwala ka, lahat na ng abuso eh ginawa ko na dito, di pa pumuputok. ayoko lang gawin yung finale ni Pete Townshend, hehe...
proud ako na Philippine made product eto. 8)
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dont know kung natanong na ito but..
i know that same lang silang dai ichi pero which is better dtx or us audio floorstanders?
in terms of clarity, bass..etc..and how much do both cost?
Dre. it's better if you audition those speakers. Iba iba kasi ang taste ng tao. One may say that speaker is bright but the other say it's smooth. Sabi nga nila, let your ears be the judge. Pero mas ok sana kung ang ma audition mo ay yung fully broken-in na. Iba talaga ang tunog pag ganon. Yun sa akin kasi parang habang tumatagal parang mas lalong gumaganda sa pandinig ko eh. Kung sa bass extension naman. You better see the frequency response. A speaker whose frequency response is 40hz-20khz is better than the other have a 65hz-20khz in terms of bass ??? ???Yung Price???.......Nakalimutan ko na eh......Dati kasi lagi ako nagpupunta dun sa showroom sa megamall.
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i went to the dai ichi showroom at mega kanina..
iba nga if you audition..heto opinion lang po..
yung 9.5t ay medyo ma mid at konti harsh sa high..parang i like the diamond 8.3 better mas clearer.. in terms of bass nila halos pareho lang..
what i like is the 7.6t it sounds better for me..mas ma-bass and hindi harsh yung highs
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Mga sir, Baka po mayron sa inyo na may dai-ichi floorstanding speaker na CT-813 model. Ask ko lang kung ano ang review nyo kung naka hook sya sa reciever like onkyo or denon. Medyo naiisip ako na bumili ng reciever kaya lang naisip ko baka hindi match sa present speakers ko eh di bibili pa ko ng speaker para imatch sa reciever ko. baka awayin na talaga ako ni misis pag ganon. And besides solved naman ako sa tunog ng speaker ko kaya lang na mini compo and integrated ampli lang sya nakakabit. Thanks.
P.s.
Yung CT-813 model ng dai-ichi na yon phased out na yata yon kasi wala na sa show room nila. Thanks ulit.
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I agree bro, p.dividdy. Last week lang din pinakinggan ko Yung SlimSeries ng Dai-ichi mas ok para sa akin yung Diamond Series kaya iyon na lang bili ko, imported quality pa hehehe.
Sa tingin ko mas OK sa Dai-ichi yung Pregnant Series nila kaso mahal...OOngi
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yung pregnant ba yung black tapos may silver sa harap ng speaker... ok din yun ang lakas ng bass tanong ko nga sa sales dude..."dude where's my car?"..este.."naka-on ba sub mo?"...sabi nya "dehins tol".. :D
kaso if you "hear" it pa...lakas nga ng bass parang sub pero clarity medyo hindi ganon ka clear... kung wala kang sub ok to dahil bookshelf lang sya ang lakas bumayo..ehehee
gaya ng sabi ko yung 7.6t ok..ano nga ba yun dtx?..kasi may kaparehas siyang us audio di ko nakuha model number..
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yup bro iyan yung black na may silver sa gilid. Lakas nga siya bumayo pero kung sa kaniya kunin ko pa rin wharfedale hehehe iyon na kasi gamit ko eh...
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what model of daichi's sub would you guys recommend? ive read that us audio subs gawa din from daiichi. magkano kaya mg price diff nila? am beeing offered a us audio sub for 5,500 bnew. ok na b to? magkano ba mga daiichi subs? ::)
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i recommend (daiichi)dtx 4.10,
Php 6500 sa may audio room raon.
Yung US audio na 8", P4800 dun.
check it out...
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i recommend (daiichi)dtx 4.10,
Php 6500 sa may audio room raon.
Yung US audio na 8", P4800 dun.
check it out...
thanks gimper, any shops nearer to QC would be better na ganun din sana ang presyo, mahirap ata parking sa raon. my room is only around 10 sq. m., ok na kaya tong us audio na 8"? BTW, my front spkrs are 8.1 na wharf.
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triplex,
sa pagcanvass ko sa audio room na ang
pinakamura, mabait pa at accomodating
si ms jenny. wala ngang parking dun,
gusto mo, ask a friend to help you,
mag-hazard ka na lang sandali.
Call, and ask them to prepare it na para pagkuha
mo mabilis na lang.pero when i bought mine,
nag-fx lang ako.medyo mabigat nga lang...konting tiis.
i also planned to buy 8" sana, but when you think of
it, yung malakas(10") pwede mong hinaan,
pero yung 8" kung bitin, hanggang dun na lang.
sometimes, i get carried away kasi, i want it loud!
hehehehhehe, konting dagdag na lang kasi...
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us audio 512 ay dai-1chi din ang oem 'di po ba? ano ba talaga size ng woofer niya 12" o 10"? thanks
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Reposting lang po about the us audio subwoofer 512, 10" po ba o 12 " siya? thanks
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anyone knows the model of DTX 4.10, what size of speakers used for the DTX 4.10? thanks... :)
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raycor,
the size of the DTX 4.10 is 10 inches,
150watts. It costs around P6.5K
dingsky,
yung US audio 508A = 8 inches
yung US audio 512L = 12 inches
...hope these info help :)
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gimper thank you. yeah tama ka, iyan din ang sabi sa akin nung salesguy nagbenta ng us audio 512L. pero you can check this site http://www.daiichi.ph/HOME%20THEATER9.htm (http://www.daiichi.ph/HOME%20THEATER9.htm) sabi kasi diyan 10" lang daw iyong us audio 512L. thanks ulit!
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gimper,
thanks for the info :)
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got the slim line 5 spkrs package in knight last nov 3. set it up last sat with kenwood krfr 6060d, pero americann model vr6050. ok naman. wala pa ako sub kaya bitin kung naka dts, pro logic. pero kung stereo lang ang ganda. front ko ung front standing. bigay ni jennifer 7.7k for the 5 spkrs. suggest you inspect then buy, then sabihin mo hintayin ka sa labas at kunin mo ang car mo. doon ka na lang sa isetann ipark. nice to check if there are scratches.
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are the slim line (DTX 9.5model) really good over the wharfdales diamond 8s?
im planning to setup AGAIN!
im contemplating on this speakers and yet undecided on the AVR please advise.
what subwoofer is perfect on the DTX9.5?
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sir lance wrote:
Mga sir, Baka po mayron sa inyo na may dai-ichi floorstanding speaker na CT-813 model. Ask ko lang kung ano ang review nyo kung naka hook sya sa reciever like onkyo or denon. Medyo naiisip ako na bumili ng reciever kaya lang naisip ko baka hindi match sa present speakers ko eh di bibili pa ko ng speaker para imatch sa reciever ko. baka awayin na talaga ako ni misis pag ganon. And besides solved naman ako sa tunog ng speaker ko kaya lang na mini compo and integrated ampli lang sya nakakabit. Thanks.
i have a ct-813 hooked up to my pioneer vsx425. nabili ko yung speaker 1996 pa (top of the line during that time). ganda ng tunog, di ko na nga kailangan ng sub. now i'm planning to upgrade my avr pero stick pa rin ako sa ct-813 ko. and yes, phased out na po ito.
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sir lance wrote:
Mga sir, Baka po mayron sa inyo na may dai-ichi floorstanding speaker na CT-813 model. Ask ko lang kung ano ang review nyo kung naka hook sya sa reciever like onkyo or denon. Medyo naiisip ako na bumili ng reciever kaya lang naisip ko baka hindi match sa present speakers ko eh di bibili pa ko ng speaker para imatch sa reciever ko. baka awayin na talaga ako ni misis pag ganon. And besides solved naman ako sa tunog ng speaker ko kaya lang na mini compo and integrated ampli lang sya nakakabit. Thanks.
i have a ct-813 hooked up to my pioneer vsx425. nabili ko yung speaker 1996 pa (top of the line during that time). ganda ng tunog, di ko na nga kailangan ng sub. now i'm planning to upgrade my avr pero stick pa rin ako sa ct-813 ko. and yes, phased out na po ito.
:DYOOOOO.....dre, im glad na meron palang member dito na gumagamit din ng ct-813. kala ko ako lang ang meron dito non eh. :) kung top of the line sya that time, feel ko hanggang ngayon top of the line pa rin yon eh..phased out na nga lang. kasi it can go down at 40hz. e yung ibang sub yun lang din ang kayang low eh.....im just thinking na kaya nila hindi itinuloy na yon pag nagkaron ka ng ganong speaker medyo mahihirapan ka ng i convince ang sarili mo na mag add ng sub sa system :) sa ngayon ang balak ko muna ay dvd player. yung philips 727k, maganda ang review don eh.yung reciever kasi medyo mahal. mababaw lang ang bulsa ko eh. he he he pag nagkaron na ko ng player na yon pwede na ko mag 4.0. i will use my present ampli and my mini. then saka na muna ko bili ng center.
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Anyone already auditioned the US Audio tower (US-660B) speaker? How does it perform compare to DTX Slim tower?
Also, is there any black version of DTX slim? Black setup kasi gusto ko eh :D
Here is my planned setup.
Sakura AMP
US Audio front
WH2 center/surround
Upgrade Option (after 6 months na siguro)
Upgrade Sakura to Yamaha 440 first then uprade US Audio to Diamond 8.4
Any suggestions?
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may black version ang DTX9.5T pero Dai-ichi ang brand, same specs color lang talaga ang pinagkaiba.
onion_skin,
pards need you comments here, paramdam ka naman. kamusta na ang set-up mo (front: US-660B, surround: DTX9.5T, center: wharfedale 8c, sub: DTX 4.15)
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1.is the us audio 660b the same "black" version of the 9.5t?
2.meron bang hindi slim type?
3. meron bang maple finish tulad ng wharfsdale
4.btw way auditioned dai-ichi towers with kenwood 100w per channel receiver , it's nice for movies
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1.is the us audio 660b the same "black" version of the 9.5t?
2.meron bang hindi slim type?
3. meron bang maple finish tulad ng wharfsdale
4.btw way auditioned dai-ichi towers with kenwood 100w per channel receiver , it's nice for movies
bro,
1. the us audio 660b is not the black version of dtx 9.5t, the black version is dai-ichi ct-9.5t
2. meron yung us audio 660b ito yung malapad, according to specs it can go down to 42Hz
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may black version ang DTX9.5T pero Dai-ichi ang brand, same specs color lang talaga ang pinagkaiba.
onion_skin,
pards need you comments here, paramdam ka naman. kamusta na ang set-up mo (front: US-660B, surround: DTX9.5T, center: wharfedale 8c, sub: DTX 4.15)
wala na si onion skin... cebuyas_bombay na ulit siya! ;D
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has anyone tried DTX/US audio/Daiichis
on Harman Kardon Receivers
do they really perform at par with wharfedales diamond 8
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malibang sa knight audio, sino pa nag bebenta ng DTX slim series na open kapag sunday? and also the same price.
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mukang bibili ka kimpoy?
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yup tamulmol, will put floorstander/center as rear and rear center.
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wow 6.1 ka na, yummy pa rin?
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yep!
that's correct, yammy 6.1
but will check if they match yammy for fronts.
if they dont match, the original plan stays
put them at rear and buy M------A---- speakers he..he
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yep!
that's correct, yammy 6.1
but will check if they match yammy for fronts.
if they dont match, the original plan stays
put them at rear and buy M------A---- speakers he..he
dapat option2 na!!! ;D
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peeps,
anybody know kung magkano ang daiichi dtx 9.5B bookshelf? am scouting speakers for my surrounds. do they have them in black? beech kasi naka display sa website nila. thanks!
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cuz,
9.5b is 2,200 at raon
black version is tagged as dai-ichi,
and (correct me if im wrong) there drivers are different.
drivers of DTX are imported
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kimpoy,
thanks bro. swak sana sa budget pero am not in manila. will try to ask a friend to get one for me. thanks again!!
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cuz, ako rin
what i did is place an order dito sa local electronic shop near me. they dont carry DTX but they happy to order it for me, as long that i buy it he..he
turns out naman na same price sila sa raon.
at pwede pang 30 days check!
are you going to hang the bookshelves?
kasi if you're gonna put stands on the bookshelves
better get the floorstanders for rear surround
at 3,800
just like what i will do
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pre kimpoy,
will hang them. no room at the back for floorstanders. will be getting those speaker mounts from ace or handyman siguro. thanks for the tip! will contact my dealer here.
last question, were you able to demo the dtx 9.5? or any of the slim line? baka sobrang layo ang sound quality sa monitor audios. am also considering wharfedale 8.1s pero if the dtx 9.5 sounds ok, will go for them.
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pareng cuz,
auditioned the floorstanders/center at megamall showroom, and they delivered the sound i wanted for movies, GOOD highs and mids but the floorstanders lacks bass for movies which is good naman for music.
a good sub will do the trick.
what i liked about the is the high sensitivity at 91db they are easy to drive.
pare at 2,200 and for surround use only, panalo ka na dito.
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ah ok. my criteria for surrounds is that they should have good highs and mids since theyll be used for movies lang nman. sa music i go 2chan or 3chan stereo eh. thanks again bro!
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My fronts are MA B2 and Bronze center and my surrounds are DTX9.5B and surround back is DTX 9.5C.
It works for me.
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JVM, yan din ang balak ko!
(floorstanders nga lang rear ko)
pare anong receiver mo?
thanks
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hello jvm!!! ur the with the sr4300 marantz? ryt? ;D sent u a pm...thanks ;)
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Yes, my avr is MarantzSR4300. :)
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My fronts are MA B2 and Bronze center and my surrounds are DTX9.5B and surround back is DTX 9.5C.
It works for me.
pre,
what color are your dtx speakers? my monitor audios are black kasi and i need black surrounds.
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pre,
what color are your dtx speakers? my monitor audios are black kasi and i need black surrounds.
B2 - Beech
DTX - Maple
Medyo malapit na rin kulay nila. ;D
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black version is tagged as dai-ichi,
and (correct me if im wrong) there drivers are different.
drivers of DTX are imported
Sir,
They are, how would you know if their drivers are different from the other? Though they are the same model, right?
Hmm.. ???
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afaik, DTX's drivers are imported
USaudio, StudioAcoustic, Daiichi's driver are localy made.
the salesperson told me.
i dunno if he's 100% correct, that why you can correct me if im wrong.
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afaik, DTX's drivers are imported
USaudio, StudioAcoustic, Daiichi's driver are localy made.
the salesperson told me.
i dunno if he's 100% correct, that why you can correct me if im wrong.
I dont think so. dai-ichi supplies oem driver to other company di ba?...they even exported pa so why they import driver, maybe imported pero sa dai-ichi rin na company.
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a friend of mine just went by daichi showroom megamall and the dtx9.5B is being sold at 3K.did they increase prices? or mahal lng talaga sa daiichi megamall?
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a friend of mine just went by daichi showroom megamall and the dtx9.5B is being sold at 3K.did they increase prices? or mahal lng talaga sa daiichi megamall?
That's for dealer protection. They should not be selling lower than their dealers.
I also got mine for 3k at THT.
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thanks jvm! :)
has anyone auditioned both dtx 9.5B and diamond 8.1s? somebody is offering me his 8.1s at almost the same price as the dtx. which should i get?
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i have auditioned the 8.1 and the DTX 9.5B
the 8.1 connected to Denon 1803
DTX connected to NAD___
to my ear
mas detailed ang highs on DTX
8.1 is more rounder.
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thanks bro, but which would you choose for surrounds. for movies lang use nya.
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siguro bro yung may lower freq response
full range di naman kasi ang rear surrounds eh.
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siguro bro yung may lower freq response
full range di naman kasi ang rear surrounds eh.
tns again bro!
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also the one with the higher sensitivity.
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thanks bro, but which would you choose for surrounds. for movies lang use nya.
:)Dapat din dre timbre matched din sya sa front at center mo.
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which is the better floorstander among US audio, dtx, and daiichi?
have you tried MEQUE? i think this floorstander have a better bass response because of an additional port.
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May nakita ako dun sa megamall showroom ng dai-ichi na black na floorstander. I dont know the model pero yung specs lang ang napagtuunan ko ng pansin. It can go down at 28hz. :o bale nasa side yung sub na 10" Yung dtx na pregnant design ok sa bass pero mas gusto ko yung floorstander na to mas clear ang high and mid. 6700 ang price. i think mas mura sa raon to. :)
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I need a bit of advice from the audio specialists in the group. I bought this self powered sub a few months back. This is the same sub being packaged with the dcs302 satellites and daichi dvd player. The setup is take the individual 5.1 output of the player which goes to the 5.1 input of the sub. Each channel plays ok, but somehow I find the sub a bit anemic for an 8 incher. So I removed the sub cable and played a test dvd, somehow the sub is still outputting bass. But if I remove the front left and right, the sub is a tad stronger. At first I thought that the signal of the sub was sourced only from the front left and right signals, but since removing these two cables and still getting bass output shows that the sub in of the subwoofer still actually works. I would understand if the sub will get some bass output from the front left and right. Even my yammy when setting the front speakers as small will still send bass signal to my velo, but what I'm wondering about this daiichi sub is that the bass output becomes more anemic when both front speaker cables are attached. Any ideas? Thanks for spending time on my inquiry.
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Hi!
Can anybody give a comment on a WH-2 Center between a DTX 9.5c center speakers?
Can anyone give their suggestions on which of these two sounds better? On your opinion to those who have owned or heard of their clarity and detail, could you please give you're personal comment on these two?
Thanks!
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you have pm sir [p]erkz.. :)
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you have pm sir [p]erkz.. :)
have read your PM sir, i'll try to audition one and for your offer, i'll think about it.
thanks!
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maganda sa DTX, lifetime warranty, kapag masira just bring it to dai-ichi, kahit walang resibo.
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anyone using monitor audio and dtx speakers? just wanna know if they would match (MA for fronts and dtx for surrounds). im currently using wharfedale 8.1s for surrounds and hindi talaga timbre matched with monitor audios and theyre quite hard to drive. thanks in advance!
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you got pm pinsan
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replied to ur pm pre.
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DTX Tower Slim Series inspired by Tannoy Mercury MX4m?
(http://www.tannoy.com/images/ACF35C.jpg)
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Hi!
Can anybody give a comment on a WH-2 Center between a DTX 9.5c center speakers?
Can anyone give their suggestions on which of these two sounds better? On your opinion to those who have owned or heard of their clarity and detail, could you please give you're personal comment on these two?
Thanks!
Yo dude,
I purchased a WH2 center last month paired with a yammy and bsed on my inital test ok siya claro pero ...... medyo hindi ito matibay. After listening it for a week lang bigla na lang ito nasira ibinlik ko ito sa tindahan at I've requested a replacement pero upgraded model na kinuha ko (diamond 8c) medyo mabigat sa bulsa pero its worth it. Wala kasi silang pamalitv during that time kaya napilitan akong iupgrade ito. And as disclosed to me by my friend sirain talaga iyon actually tatlo na kaming nagbalik nito. Mahina siya pag medyo biglang pasok ng signal i.e. sudden increase ng db level especially sa movies... :-[ And beware sa mga tindahan na nagbebenta ng single unit ng wh2 center lang malamang refurbished or reconditioned na ito kasi normally binebenta ito ng set (L/R surround and center speakers.
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anyone using monitor audio and dtx speakers? just wanna know if they would match (MA for fronts and dtx for surrounds). im currently using wharfedale 8.1s for surrounds and hindi talaga timbre matched with monitor audios and theyre quite hard to drive. thanks in advance!
Bro skeeter,
all of my speakers for my two HT set-ups(1 sa sala, 1 sa kwarto ko) are all made by Daiichi, DTXs, US Audios, Audiofiles, and Daiichis, I have some from all brandnames, so if you're asking if Daiichi-made speakers are of good quality, I'd say they're great, very well worth their price, at worst. I haven't seen any recent Daiichi speaker systems that haven't met my expectations if not surpassed it. Maybe this is one of those cases where we can really believe in the Filipino ingenuity. As I've read in my book How To Build Your Own Home Theater, the author suggests buying speakers of the same brand/manufacturer to ensure timbre matching, and it would be most ideal if all the speakers use the same drivers. That way you wouldn't have to have trouble with such. That's exactly the reason why speaker manufacturers produce speaker systems in groups for HT. Like Daiichi's DTX, Pregnant, DC, etc. lines. And with regards to pareng lance's post, there are older models from Daiichi that are very good too. I have a pair of CT-503s, and they even have higher Peak Power inputs than the newer DTX 9.5 Towers(140 W max RMS), that's 250 watts RMS(Unclipped) for the 503s, and stronger bass too. I installed another pair of Daiichi classic towers (I forgot the model no.) for a friend and that one left me in awe, we used it with Crown center and surrounds, and the difference is so noticeble, and although we had a powered sub, we didn't seem to need it, that was when I decided to use only Daiichis for budget setups. But if you want these older speakers, you'd have to hurry or try to find stores that still have them, because I think they stopped making them. This is the "elite" line that Daiichi used to make before they started using new names, the CLASSIQUE TOWER Series, that's why they really put in those all they had then. But of course, the new ones are great too. As most of us would say, "Just my 2 Cents". TC.
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another satisfied dai-ichi owner!
bang for the buck talaga ang dai-ichis
can even compete with branded entry level speakers
with 1/2 the price
lifetime warranty pa!
proper break lang talaga
here's my DTX's
(http://www.tsikot.com/forums/gallery/thumbnails/498-m.jpg)
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@kimp0y,
nice setup tsong. OT na to pero san mo nabili yung dvd/av rack mo? :) ganda.hehehe
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may thread din tayo sa av rack na iyan
http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=11;action=display;threadid=14924
nandyan na rin ang mga prices
nabili ko ito sa listening, available in black and silver lang
i choose the silver kasi bagay sa TV saka sa TV stand
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Bro skeeter,
all of my speakers for my two HT set-ups(1 sa sala, 1 sa kwarto ko) are all made by Daiichi, DTXs, US Audios, Audiofiles, and Daiichis, I have some from all brandnames, so if you're asking if Daiichi-made speakers are of good quality, I'd say they're great, very well worth their price, at worst. I haven't seen any recent Daiichi speaker systems that haven't met my expectations if not surpassed it. Maybe this is one of those cases where we can really believe in the Filipino ingenuity. As I've read in my book How To Build Your Own Home Theater, the author suggests buying speakers of the same brand/manufacturer to ensure timbre matching, and it would be most ideal if all the speakers use the same drivers. That way you wouldn't have to have trouble with such. That's exactly the reason why speaker manufacturers produce speaker systems in groups for HT. Like Daiichi's DTX, Pregnant, DC, etc. lines. And with regards to pareng lance's post, there are older models from Daiichi that are very good too. I have a pair of CT-503s, and they even have higher Peak Power inputs than the newer DTX 9.5 Towers(140 W max RMS), that's 250 watts RMS(Unclipped) for the 503s, and stronger bass too. I installed another pair of Daiichi classic towers (I forgot the model no.) for a friend and that one left me in awe, we used it with Crown center and surrounds, and the difference is so noticeble, and although we had a powered sub, we didn't seem to need it, that was when I decided to use only Daiichis for budget setups. But if you want these older speakers, you'd have to hurry or try to find stores that still have them, because I think they stopped making them. This is the "elite" line that Daiichi used to make before they started using new names, the CLASSIQUE TOWER Series, that's why they really put in those all they had then. But of course, the new ones are great too. As most of us would say, "Just my 2 Cents". TC.
(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0UADUAsQWzHwMqT88ZpC15vRentRL!oUKScEfH6ruKtzqSCnu9tPONyyXHIYmM46Sg5ZnQJlxtOGnxaCodMNAww2qFwa44tloVC7Udo!GNkpPkV4lWrJrFHSCjRYAcI0W/19Jan04-7E%20Resized.JPG?dc=4675457518986205436)
Bro, this is my Dai-Ichi CLASSIQUE TOWER CT-813, I think, as you said, they stopped making this line, buti naka abot pa ko. he he he ;D nung 1999 php 9,800 pa ang price nito pero nakuha ko lang ng php 5,860 kasi sale. after that pag nag pupunta ko sa showroom sa megamall wala ng ganito. na auditioned ko na rin yung dtx floorstander nila ang sad to say maliit ng tunog compare to my speaker. max 400 watts unclipped daw ito eh. i have no regret having this speakers. I can say it is on the warm side and very musical to me. at 92db sensitivity. i think a tube amp can power this speakers coz im planning to plunge into tubes. medyo nag iipon pa lang ako ng pambili. balitaan ko kayo kung swak sa tube amp ito pero i have faith in this baby (baby damulag! ;D) medyo matagal pa siguro ako makakapag balita sa inyo about that, kasi php 658 pa lang ang ipon ko eh. :P sa monday baka maging php 700 na rin ito..yeheyy ;)
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my room is relatively small, so a DTX-9.5T is not applicable (no enough space). now, my option is to have bookshelf speaker instead. any recommendation on what speaker should i get? sana dai-ichi rin kc i've read a lot of good reviews and mura pa...
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well may mga sattelites ang dai-ichi
also nung nasa showroom ako may nakita akong look alike ng sattelites ng JBL speakers,
naalala ko OEM maker pala itong dai-ichi, so sub contract yata sila ng JBL dito sa phils.
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my room is relatively small, so a DTX-9.5T is not applicable (no enough space). now, my option is to have bookshelf speaker instead. any recommendation on what speaker should i get? sana dai-ichi rin kc i've read a lot of good reviews and mura pa...
Jam, slim yung design ng DTX tower so kahit maliit space, sigurado na kasya. Check mo yung Tannoy speaker tower na nakapost dito...ganoon siya ka slim ;D
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depende sa size ng room,
may listening fatigue kapag malapit ako sa DTX
2-3 meters usually
sweet spot is 5-6 meters
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Jam, slim yung design ng DTX tower so kahit maliit space, sigurado na kasya. Check mo yung Tannoy speaker tower na nakapost dito...ganoon siya ka slim ;D
what's the dimension of this Tannoy speakers? where can i buy and how much kaya 'to? tnx ulit...
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what's the dimension of this Tannoy speakers? where can i buy and how much kaya 'to? tnx ulit...
Hindi ko lang alam kung meron ganito dito. I just mentioned tannoy kasi ganyan yung concept ng DTX Slim. Halos pareho sila ng driver, x-over and box.
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what yakuini meant is that DTX slim series and the tannoy mx4m are look alikes, mas smoother lang ang sa edges and different color finish,
im sure malayo din ang sound ng dalawa dahil mid/high -level na ang tannoy.
you could see the tannoy pic and the actual DTX floorstanders at page 17
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pareng lance,
that is exactly what I installed for a friend, that's a great pair of speakers, pero u know for how much namin nabili dito sa Bacolod? 4,200 lng. Take care of those babes man.
jam bro,
punta ka na lang s Daiichi showroom, either sa Megamall or sa Raon mall, I'm sure you'll find what you need and want there. Besides, buying those DTX 9.5 towers at 3.5 K wouldn't hurt, you wouldn't have to worry about possible future upgrades too. Or you could vist their website www.daiichi.com. TC.
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arthurallanj,
OT. bro bacolod ka? am from iloilo. good to know there are other ilonggos in this forum. :)
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pareng lance,
that is exactly what I installed for a friend, that's a great pair of speakers, pero u know for how much namin nabili dito sa Bacolod? 4,200 lng. Take care of those babes man.
jam bro,
punta ka na lang s Daiichi showroom, either sa Megamall or sa Raon mall, I'm sure you'll find what you need and want there. Besides, buying those DTX 9.5 towers at 3.5 K wouldn't hurt, you wouldn't have to worry about possible future upgrades too. Or you could vist their website www.daiichi.com. TC.
Bro, ingat na ingat talaga ako don, yung bunso ko lang ang hindi. :'( buti may cloth cover kaya hindi tinatamaan yung cone pag hinahampas. at least pag nasira e di dalhin ko lang sa dai-ichi. lifetime naman warranty eh. kaya lang sa bigat nito, lawit ang dila ko sa pagdala nito. :)
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Bro, ingat na ingat talaga ako don, yung bunso ko lang ang hindi. :'( buti may cloth cover kaya hindi tinatamaan yung cone pag hinahampas. at least pag nasira e di dalhin ko lang sa dai-ichi. lifetime naman warranty eh. kaya lang sa bigat nito, lawit ang dila ko sa pagdala nito. :)
Bro lance,
D ba pwede na ang driver lang na sira ang dalhin mo? Kasi this is what I've been wanting to find out if they allow you to have them repair just the defective part. Kasi may friend ako na defective ang on board controls ng DCS sub nya, but the functions work just fine on the remote, so he wants to have it repaired sana, but it would be troublesome to bring the whole sub, so he wishes to just bring the circuit board, not the entire sub. Bagong bili pa lang kasi so sayang naman ang warranty. Mga april pa kasi kami pupunta uli dyan sa maynila e. Medyo pareho pala tayo ng case e, my nephew likes to push the dome tweeters very often. Kaya when I leave the house, sinisiguro ko na nakakabit ang covers. Paano kaya pag may toddler na uli sa bahay? he he. Gd day.
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arthurallanj,
OT. bro bacolod ka? am from iloilo. good to know there are other ilonggos in this forum. :)
Pinsan,
(OT)Musta dyan? miss ko SM city, wla kasi nyan dito e. Ingat.
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Bro lance,
D ba pwede na ang driver lang na sira ang dalhin mo? Kasi this is what I've been wanting to find out if they allow you to have them repair just the defective part. Kasi may friend ako na defective ang on board controls ng DCS sub nya, but the functions work just fine on the remote, so he wants to have it repaired sana, but it would be troublesome to bring the whole sub, so he wishes to just bring the circuit board, not the entire sub. Bagong bili pa lang kasi so sayang naman ang warranty. Mga april pa kasi kami pupunta uli dyan sa maynila e. Medyo pareho pala tayo ng case e, my nephew likes to push the dome tweeters very often. Kaya when I leave the house, sinisiguro ko na nakakabit ang covers. Paano kaya pag may toddler na uli sa bahay? he he. Gd day.
Palagay ko dre pwede kasi lifetime warranty naman pinag uusapan eh saka babayaran mo rin naman kung ano yung papalitan if meron man. Pero para sure tawag ka muna sa showroom nila kahit sa megamall. :-\Di ko lang alam number. Pero good idea. If ever di ko na lang dadalhin yung paglalaki laking speaker na yon..pero for sure hindi ko ma i over drive yon e.... :)
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meron yata bago series yung dai-ichi s mega showroom,its 'europe 8','europe 6' at 'EFD'.im not sure about their names pero bago silang series.if you had auditioned the 'pregnant' series before try to audition the new series...
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meron yata bago series yung dai-ichi s mega showroom,its 'europe 8','europe 6' at 'EFD'.im not sure about their names pero bago silang series.if you had auditioned the 'pregnant' series before try to audition the new series...
Really, bro? Wow, I can't wait to go back to Manila, d pa ba nakalagay sa website nila? I haven't seen the europe series, but sa pagkakaalam ko, yung pregnant is a part of the EFD series. April pa kasi balik ko dyan, e. The wifey usually teases me that the only reason I go to Manila is Raon, not family, he he, I just smile, kasi there's a bit of truth to that. Ooops, OT. :)
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maganda ang dai-ichi i was using my bk-10 for almost 5 yrs. paganda ng paganda ang tunog wala ng ganon sa showroom kahit sa raon 250 w/ch max ang power handling niya at 10"woofer 3 way design siya. it is less than 5k yung mga panahong iyon floorstander siya pero parang pinalaking bookshelf ang itsura. meron din ung kapitbahay namin dai-1chi rin 1200 watts peak ung pair 600 watts rms and can go down to 30hz.
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merong new series ng speakers ang dai ichi..i dont remember the name..but its two tone,silver&black..ive auditioned it sa mega...mas mganda sounds sa DTX,cause they have much better drivers..the tower cost 5,600.reasonable,great quality speakers.. 8)
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Yan! Tuloy, I'm contemplating on buying new speakers na naman. Kasi kayo e, hehehe, I'm anticipating going to Manila again, and going to Raon, AGAIN! AND AGAIN! The first place I'm gonna go to is the Daiichi Showroom, Yeheey! I'm thinkin' about buying new speakers for my surrounds kasi e. :)
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malapit na dumating ang DTX's for rear (9.5T) and rear center (9.5C)
rock the house!!!
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merong new series ng speakers ang dai ichi..i dont remember the name..but its two tone,silver&black..ive auditioned it sa mega...mas mganda sounds sa DTX,cause they have much better drivers..the tower cost 5,600.reasonable,great quality speakers.. 8)
i auditioned this, yung may dual 6" drivers ata, it looks great, pero parang kulang sa highs (personal preference ko lang cguro) for me its not that smooth and warm sounding...pero thats just me...
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baka naman hindi pa na break in????
wala rin highs yung DTX ko, after biwiring the highs "stepped up"
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baka naman hindi pa na break in????
wala rin highs yung DTX ko, after biwiring the highs "stepped up"
possible, effective ba tlga yung biwiring? hehe medyo OT na..=)
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MAKI,
sa akin lang, lumabas ang highs, nung nag bi-wire ako.
pero hindi naman na wala ang mids at umangat din ng kaunti ang bass.
out of the box kasi lamang na lamang ang mids kesa sa highs ang bass
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mga bro,
I'm all for biwiring my 9.5Towers, but I'm kinda torn about my 9.5Center, if I should replace the metal binders with a thin wire(I read that somewhere here, just not sure which forum, though) or to biwire it. Help?
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bi-wire mo pare, ako naka biwire ang center ko.
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bi-wire mo pare, ako naka biwire ang center ko.
Thanks bro, although I'm still wondering what difference it would make if i-replace mo ang metal binders with thin wires. Pero I'm definitely biwiring them, today na! He he he.
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help naman. meron bang tower speaker dyan na may 10" woofer at below 7k ang price meron ba non? gusto ko kac looks ng tower at ayoko na meron sub
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Bisita ka kaya showroom nila, either sa Raon or sa Megamall, I'm sure marami kang makikita dun, and well within your price range. Maybe you could buy a pair that has side firing woofers. They have that too. Or better yet, kung may time ka, maghanap ka sa raon ng mga Classique Tower series nila, medyo luma na yon pero they're great. Hanap ka ng CT-813 ng Daiichi, kung meron pa. Ganda nun, anlakas.
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Is it true na malapit ng maphase out ang DTX series? We just called sabi ng nakausap namin eh malapit na raw maphase out. Sayang naman.
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Is it true na malapit ng maphase out ang DTX series? We just called sabi ng nakausap namin eh malapit na raw maphase out. Sayang naman.
Possible, kasi the first time I saw it was about 2 years ago. And besides, even though I own a pair of DTX 9.5 towers and center and am very pleased with it, there's a lot of room for improvement, kasi I've seen older Daiichis that are better than the newer ones, so we all know that Daiichi can produce better products than their present line. I'm pretty excited about seeing new models from Daiichi, because they're very competitive, and phasing out some older models is proof of that. Kaya lang, sayang nga ang DTXs. Sana mura pa rin ang mga bagong models para buy ulit ako. He he he.
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Possible, kasi the first time I saw it was about 2 years ago. And besides, even though I own a pair of DTX 9.5 towers and center and am very pleased with it, there's a lot of room for improvement, kasi I've seen older Daiichis that are better than the newer ones, so we all know that Daiichi can produce better products than their present line. I'm pretty excited about seeing new models from Daiichi, because they're very competitive, and phasing out some older models is proof of that. Kaya lang, sayang nga ang DTXs. Sana mura pa rin ang mga bagong models para buy ulit ako. He he he.
I agree. I was about to get the DTX series of daichi when I was looking for front speakers for my setup. I auditioned these speakers at Daichi showroom(mega) and noticed that they lack in highs and bass. So I tried auditioning other speakers and ended up with Wharf 8.4. Now I'm very satisfied with the highs, mids and bass of my setup.
The last time I visited daichi showroom, I saw their new models. I auditioned one of their new speakers and somehow, I find them very interesting. :) There's an improvement compare to the old DTX model I have heard. I find their new models good and very affordable. :) Right now, I'm planning to get a sub woofer for my setup. I might end up with the DTX 4.10.
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Sayang affordable kasi eh. Anyway, may dalawang stock pa raw sa raon. Sana magkapera na this weekend para makabili na at baka maunahan pa. ;D
Thanks guys.
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help naman. meron bang tower speaker dyan na may 10" woofer at below 7k ang price meron ba non? gusto ko kac looks ng tower at ayoko na meron sub
meron, exactly what you want, MODEL PL10, 1 tweeter, 5,25inch mids and 10"woofer... got mine for 4.6k...sa mega showroom ng daiichi 6500 ata or so...pero i still use a dq12 sub...
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Peeps, whats better? DQ12 or US Audio subs? going to pair it with dtx9.5. 3x4 lang ang room size namin. tnx
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meron, exactly what you want, MODEL PL10, 1 tweeter, 5,25inch mids and 10"woofer... got mine for 4.6k...sa mega showroom ng daiichi 6500 ata or so...pero i still use a dq12 sub...
thnx for informing me
Bago na site ng dai-ichi @ www.daiichi.ph i small caps nyo na lang ung address pag ayaw gumana dun sa products, technologies etc...
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thnx for informing me
Bago na site ng dai-ichi @ www.daiichi.ph i small caps nyo na lang ung address pag ayaw gumana dun sa products, technologies etc...
May bago na nga plang web site ang Dai-Ichi. Gaganda ng mga speakers nila. Nag e error lang yung address. Dapat alisin mo pa yung caps ng mga text. You may try this one, http://www.daiichi.ph/home%20theater.htm
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Nice looking speakers. Their designs have really come a long way since the 80s when i first came to know about the brand.
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Nice looking speakers. Their designs have really come a long way since the 80s when i first came to know about the brand.
yup, gaganda na ng mga design nila ngayon. Kailangan nilang sumabay kasi maiiwanan sila ng kalaban nilang mga china made. :) I guess maganda rin tumunog ang mga yon. Kaya ngayon pag madalas kang magpupunta sa mga showroom or sumama sa mga listening sessions for sure magkaka SARS ka eh. Ang gaganda na ng style nga mga bagong labas. :)
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We just called Dai-ichi Megamall Showroom hindi naman pala maphase-out yung DTX ginugudtime lang siguro kami nung nakausap namin ;D >:(
Question: Where to buy the cheapest DTX 9.5T? In Megamall the price is P5,000+, sa raon P3,800 lang.
Thanks. 8)
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i think sa mega 4+ nlang ung dtx 9.5t..
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best seller ang DTX9.5 kaya malabo ma phaseout yan ngayon. saka nagkaroon na ng niche ang DTX, if so ever ma phaseout i think DTX pa rin ang name.
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We just called Dai-ichi Megamall Showroom hindi naman pala maphase-out yung DTX ginugudtime lang siguro kami nung nakausap namin ;D >:(
Question: Where to buy the cheapest DTX 9.5T? In Megamall the price is P5,000+, sa raon P3,800 lang.
Thanks. 8)
Where? Moses Aaron electronics, at 623 G. Puyat st., Quiapo. Tel. no. 735-4390. Look for Mike, ask for the additional 5% discount for mga SUKI, I got my DTX 9.5 Towers there for 3,635, my 9.5 Center for 1,615. Naglibot na ako, they have the lowest prices for Daiichi speakers. :) I don't think they'll phase out the brand too, old models cguro, not the brand.
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thnx for informing me
Bago na site ng dai-ichi @ www.daiichi.ph i small caps nyo na lang ung address pag ayaw gumana dun sa products, technologies etc...
Yup, pero actually, matagal na yan, mga 2 years na silang may website kaya lang nagkaproblema, that website is actually their 3rd yata. And marami pa silang products na hindi nakalagay dyan. Kaya after visiting the website, punta ng showroom. Ang saya! The site would also show their achievements, foreign affiliations, innovations, etc. Do you know that Daiichi built the subwoofer that holds the world record for a subwoofer with the highest SPL? Galing ng Pinoy no? :)
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Kung bibili ba ako ng Dai-ichi na DTX kailangan ko pa ba ng ampli o av receiver? Meron kasing 5.1 output yung dvd ko. Kung pwedeng wala ng receiver maganda pa ba ang tunog nito.
Sorry for the queston but I'm a newbie. Mukhang maganda kasi itong dtx madaming good reviews kaya i'm contemplating on buying one pero wala akong ampli o receiver pa. Thanks
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Where? Moses Aaron electronics, at 623 G. Puyat st., Quiapo. Tel. no. 735-4390. Look for Mike, ask for the additional 5% discount for mga SUKI, I got my DTX 9.5 Towers there for 3,635, my 9.5 Center for 1,615. Naglibot na ako, they have the lowest prices for Daiichi speakers. :) I don't think they'll phase out the brand too, old models cguro, not the brand.
Thanks bro, maybe this coming saturday pumunta kami dyan. Sana may stock pa. 8)
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Kung bibili ba ako ng Dai-ichi na DTX kailangan ko pa ba ng ampli o av receiver? Meron kasing 5.1 output yung dvd ko. Kung pwedeng wala ng receiver maganda pa ba ang tunog nito.
Sorry for the queston but I'm a newbie. Mukhang maganda kasi itong dtx madaming good reviews kaya i'm contemplating on buying one pero wala akong ampli o receiver pa. Thanks
Im sorry to say bro but you need an amplifier or a receiver to connect a speaker like DTX. This speaker accept high level input signal only from amplifier or receiver to produce sound. If your DVD player have 5.1 output only this output has low level output signal so it needs to amplify by an amplifier or receiver. There are DVD player that has built in amplifier but most of the time it is package with its own speaker system (sat & sub). :) Bro, it is better for you to buy an amplifier, say sakura or konzert. its only around 3,500. Good for music and ht. Decent sound for its price. :)
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paul nikki, palagay ko pwede KASO.......... kailangan mo ng Powered/Active Subwoofer na may crossover
connect the audio out from your TV to the sub
then connect the speakers sa Sub's terminal
the sound will be amplify by the sub, then then crossover will pass the high freq to the speakers.
viola!!! cheap 2.1
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bros,
yun bang impedance na 6 ohms in most of the dai-ichi speakers is NOMINAL? thnks ::)
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bros,
yun bang impedance na 6 ohms in most of the dai-ichi speakers is NOMINAL? thnks ::)
Bro i think nominal yung mga impedance na ginagamit nila. Coz there is no flat speaker impedance such as 6 or 8 ohms. They just use the average. I maybe wrong though. I think this could be clarify by our guru's here. :)
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bros,
yun bang impedance na 6 ohms in most of the dai-ichi speakers is NOMINAL? thnks ::)
Bro,
I'm no expert but, the impedance is more for matching the amp with the speaker. I think of it as a water hose and attaching it to a faucet. For example, an amp that can drive a 4 ohm speaker is better than one that can drive only 8 ohms. If you have an amp that can drive only 8 ohms and your speaker has a 4 ohm impedance, that's a mismatch, the amp will work harder to drive it and might end up damaged, but if your amp can drive 4 ohms, you can attach speakers with 4 ohm impedance and any other speaker that has a bigger impedance. So, I think nominal isn't really appropriate in this case. That 6 ohms, to me, would mean, drive those speakers with amps that can drive 6 ohms or lower. And an 8 ohm amp would work harder on it. But as I said, I'm no expert. That's just my 2 cents.
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bro lance, arthurallanj thnks for your insights-- ;D
yup my amp's spec says that it can drive 8 to 16 ohms speakers. m asking this kasi wharf is also 6 ohms but it also says that it can be used for 8 ohms amps. in terms of utility it would appear that the wharf is more flexible then...
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Buti yung speaker ko yung specs nya is 4-8 ohms yung nakalagay. :) At least yon binigay yung range.
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matanong lang... ano bang magandang pang surrounds? bookshelf ng dtx or meron tlga pang surround? thanks... tpos price na din.. kasi isip ko pag d nagkakalayo price ng bookshelf sa tower like say kung 2-2.5k yung bookshelf tapos tower ~3.8k lang(dtx) magtotower na lang ako para d na ako magbutas sa pader o gagamit ng stand...wat ya guys tink?
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Thanks a lot sa reply nyo.
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yan nga ang balak ko, since mura lang ang DTX tower,
eh di yun na lang din ang rears ko tutal full range din naman ang rear surrounds eh, saka kapag DTS mas mababa ang freq na ibinabato sa rear.
rock the house!!!
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bro jerix,
just make sure that you don't max out your amp, because with those specs, obviously, medyo mahihirapan ang amp mo, so moderate lang, kasi you might end up damaging it in the future. Think of it this way, ang hose na malaki ay ikinakabit mo sa gripo mo na maliit, pupwede, but the pressure isn't that strong, d ba? Just like your amp and your speakers.
Bros Maki and Kimpoy,
The DTX 9.5 bookshelf is really intended for use as surrounds, no need to worry about timbre matching since they have the same drivers and differ only with enclosure size. Now, if you don't have space constraints, go ahead, buy the DTX 9.5 Towers and use them for surrounds, mas ideal nga kung pareho na lahat ng speakers mo e. But if you do have problems with space like some of us do, bookshelfs are best, kasi sagabal sa daan ang towers if maliit lang room mo d ba? And here's a fact, frequencies around 200Hz and below are not localized, meaning, you couldn't really tell where the bass frequencies are coming from, so whether or not your surrounds are full range, it wouldn't matter that much, because you have the subwoofer to take care of those frequencies. Just make sure that the lower frequency response limit of your fronts, center and surrounds overlap with the upper freq. resp. limit of your sub. One more thing, surround speakers are ideally placed 2 to 3 feet above ear level, so mas mahirap siguro kung towers ang i aangat mo to that level right? And I think the DTX 9.5 Bookshelfs cost less than 2k, not sure though, anybody tried calling dealers for the price of a pair?
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magkano ba ang daiichi pl10 floorstanders
san ba nakakabili nito?
give me the specs naman
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magkano ba ang daiichi pl10 floorstanders
san ba nakakabili nito?
give me the specs naman
bro you may wana try this one for the specs, http://www.daiichi.ph/home%20theater.htm As for the price?....la akong idea eh. Hope this help. Kahit konti. :)
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ung pl-100 ba yon eh yung floorstanders non' ung pl-10 daw na may side-firing sub?
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ung pl-100 ba yon eh yung floorstanders non' ung pl-10 daw na may side-firing sub?
yung pl100 yung new models nila , yung pl10 medyo luma model, tama ka yun yung may side firing sub... ahh 300watts max ata yun eh...=) kung tama pagkakaalala ko.. 30hz-20khz, tapos 88db lang sensitivity...kinda hard to drive...pero im using a 50wpc amp.. ok naman..malakas na din...will upgrade later on to a 200wpc... hheeh lets wait and see =)
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magkano ba ang daiichi pl10 floorstanders
san ba nakakabili nito?
I think its priced aroud Php4,700.00 at Raon, you can try at GETZ SALES CENTER
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Just a suggestion guys, why not consider buying newer models? I know, maganda din ang mga lumang Daiichis, especially the Classique Tower series, I know since I have a pair, but the newer ones, I think, are more flexible since they're biwirable, and more sensitive, and clearer-sounding, and the latest innovations and tech are applied on the newer ones, too. My point being, the newer ones are kinda more "appropriate" for the newer needs of HT. But that's just my opinion.
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I heard from another pinoy forum that prices of Daiichi products will increase by April. This goes for car audio products like Targa and Fenton. Siguro sasabay na rin yung mga Home Theater products. Kailangan ng magmadali. What shops can you recommend and their contact numbers and addresses sa Raon:
a) Getz sales center
b) Knight Audio
c) Paul Vincent
Many thanks!
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I heard from another pinoy forum that prices of Daiichi products will increase by April. This goes for car audio products like Targa and Fenton. Siguro sasabay na rin yung mga Home Theater products. Kailangan ng magmadali. What shops can you recommend and their contact numbers and addresses sa Raon:
a) Getz sales center
b) Knight Audio
c) Paul Vincent
Many thanks!
sabi din ng suki shop ko..after holy wik daw tataas price.. kaya he's stocking up on some of the "sellable" products...
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Oh my..totoo nga talaga! :o :o Bibili sana muna ako ng Sakura 387 kaso lang parang mauuna yung DTX 9.5T and 9.5C. Suggest nyo naman shops na meron nito, plus addresses and phone #. Thanks!
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mauuna yung DTX 9.5T and 9.5C. Suggest nyo naman shops na meron nito, plus addresses and phone #. Thanks!
Knight Audio
736-3881
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Mga bros,
Try Moses Aaron, they have the lowest prices for Daiichi products compared with all the other shops na naikot ko sa Raon. They're connected with Paul Vincent, magkamag-anak ata ang mga may ari nyan e. Try looking for Mike sa Moses Aaron, mabait yon. Nagbibigay pa ng additional 5% discount. :)
Moses Aaron is at 623 G. Puyat St., Quiapo. Tel. no. is 735-4390.
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Tanong ko lang.. may tumatanggap ba ng credit card payments sa Raon? Tipong installment ba like BPI's SIP.
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Tanong ko lang.. may tumatanggap ba ng credit card payments
Sa pagkakaalam ko, ang Daiichi tumatanggap ng credit cards e. At may nakita rin akong mga establishments na may mag sticker sa entrance na tumatanggap ng credit cards. Pero di ako sure. Libot libot ka na lang kaya bro, at tingnan mo na lang sa mga entrance ng mga stores dun. TC. :)
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Lahat ng pinasukan kong store sa Raon two Sundays ago di sila tumatanggap ng credit card.
Di ko lang alam doon sa mga nakasara :)
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majority they dont accept CC, ipunin mo na lang bro then kapag may ipon na, dun mo na bilhin,
oo nga pala, my 2nd DTX9.5T arrived as my rear surround.
Yes a tower for surrounds, since its relative cheap, buying the bookshelves plus stand or bracket, cost will be the same. plus di pa naman masikip sa sala.
with its range in freq, ive never heard low freq sound in rear surrounds before especially DTS encoded disc (U-571 dts),
sometimes it can throw (imagining) the rear sound above my head (Attack of the Clones) eto yata yung DD-EX, my small yammy cubes cannot do that.
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majority they dont accept CC, ipunin mo na lang bro then kapag may ipon na, dun mo na bilhin,
oo nga pala, my 2nd DTX9.5T arrived as my rear surround.
Yes a tower for surrounds, since its relative cheap, buying the bookshelves plus stand or bracket, cost will be the same. plus di pa naman masikip sa sala.
with its range in freq, ive never heard low freq sound in rear surrounds before especially DTS encoded disc (U-571 dts),
sometimes it can throw (imagining) the rear sound above my head (Attack of the Clones) eto yata yung DD-EX, my small yammy cubes cannot do that.
He he, ;D na-experience mo na rin bass from the back. Congrats. It will change the way you feel HT forever.
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majority they dont accept CC, ipunin mo na lang bro then kapag may ipon na, dun mo na bilhin,
oo nga pala, my 2nd DTX9.5T arrived as my rear surround.
Yes a tower for surrounds, since its relative cheap, buying the bookshelves plus stand or bracket, cost will be the same. plus di pa naman masikip sa sala.
with its range in freq, ive never heard low freq sound in rear surrounds before especially DTS encoded disc (U-571 dts),
sometimes it can throw (imagining) the rear sound above my head (Attack of the Clones) eto yata yung DD-EX, my small yammy cubes cannot do that.
kimpoy, congrats four tower sa HT room. ni bi wire mo rin ang surround mo?
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thanks Qman,
nope hindi naka bi-wire ang surrounds ko pero pinalitan ko yung thin copper jumper wire ng speaker wire
im using audiopro 14Gauge speaker wires for surrounds
medyo madugo (magastos kung biwire ko pa)
AV-Phile, i actually got this idea from you pare, thanks
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majority they dont accept CC, ipunin mo na lang bro then kapag may ipon na, dun mo na bilhin,
Ganun ba. Siguro nga ipon muna. Gusto ko sana in one go lahat ng bibilin. Since tumatanggap sa Daiichi ng CC,
pwede ko na sigurong bilhin yung 9.5T and 9.5C.
Question lang, ano ba yung biwiring? Any thread I could look into to know more about this? Many thanks!
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apologies to davidmanaudio
(http://www.davidmannaudio.com/images/biwire-3.gif)
eto naman link dito sa pinoydvd
Bi-Wiring (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=11;action=display;threadid=1879)
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kimpoy hows the bass of your set up? Meron ka ring sub diba?
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Effective April 16,2004 Daiichi will have a 25% increase on its product line...FYI lang...
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Hehehe... mukhang madaming magpa-panick buying ng DTX. ;D
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Effective April 16,2004 Daiichi will have a 25% increase on its product line...FYI lang...
cocorrect ko lang (sabi dinng suki shop ko).. di pala accross the entire product line ang price hike... sa ibang daiichi products lang.. pero they failed to mention which products will have a price hike...galeng noh! heheh
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kimpoy hows the bass of your set up? Meron ka ring sub diba?
Q,
on audio i dont use the sub, dahil tamang tama ang timpla ng dtx tower.
at first before the break in ang payat ng tunog. inaadjust ko yung bass sa full or close to it para ma enjoy ang mga bass tracks on audio, im fond pa naman of bass guitars lick, since im a bass player. after a month or so and after bi-wiring dun lumabas ang taba ng tunog. rated siya 65hz pero it can go low pa dun.
on movies, it can survived without the sub, pero ibang experience ang sub, the sub provide not only the low freq sound but also the FEEL
that's my honest to goodness newbie review.
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Ano ba yun, hindi pa ako tapos magipon pambili ng DTX eh tataas na baka by the time na nakaipon na ako eh tataas ulit. Walang katapusang ipunan :'( nangangayayat na ako ha.
Hay buhay parang life......
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Ano ba yun, hindi pa ako tapos magipon pambili ng DTX eh tataas na baka by the time na nakaipon na ako eh tataas ulit. Walang katapusang ipunan :'( nangangayayat na ako ha.
Hay buhay parang life......
he he he...ok lang yan dre. basta ipon lang ng ipon. ako nga ipon din ng ipon pambili ng lintek na tube amp na yan eh. ganda kasi ng tunog. kaya puro gulay na lang ulam ko. :P pasasa ;Dan bat makakaipon rin tayo.
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yeheey!
punta kami ng Maynila next week, bili na naman ako Daiichi speakers, wala lang, he he he. ;D
mga bros,
do any of you know kung how much a pair of DTX 9.5 Bookshelfs cost? Gusto ko rin sanang 9.5 Towers for the rear e, kaya lang masikip na sa sala ko. So I'm still contemplatimg on the price difference. Thanks. :)
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eto yung raon price na walang 5% less
3800 for the tower
2200 for the bookshelves
(ang mura ano compare to other branded entry level speakers)
imho kung maglalagay ka rin ng stand, eh may towers ka na dahil same space lang ang kinakain,
kung bracket, may bookshelves ka na.
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eto yung raon price na walang 5% less
3800 for the tower
2200 for the bookshelves
(ang mura ano compare to other branded entry level speakers)
imho kung maglalagay ka rin ng stand, eh may towers ka na dahil same space lang ang kinakain,
kung bracket, may bookshelves ka na.
Bookshelves na nga siguro, kasi plan ko i-wall mount sya kasi maliit na nga ang space ng sala e. Bro, thanks sa info ha? Papalitan ko na kasi ng 2 pairs of DTX 9.5Bs ang 3 pairs of Audiofile SA-3s ko for surrounds para better bass response sa surrounds ko, at para mas masaya. Ingat at thanks ulit. ;)
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dami mong speakers he..he
considering sabi mo maliit ang sala mo he..he
rock the house!!!
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dami mong speakers he..he
considering sabi mo maliit ang sala mo he..he
rock the house!!!
Medyo... Pinapagalitan na nga ako ng nanay ko kasi ang dami na daw, may mga nakastand by na nga e. Pero di ba sabi nila, sa pagsasama, "The more, the merrier", I think ganun din sa electronic equiptment, mas marami, mas masaya. hehehe. I'm already shaking the glass windows as it is. Ang sayasaya nito.... ;D
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i just talked with Elsie at Knight Audio..
complete DTX line speaker set for 7,8k
plus sub DTX 4.10 - 6.5k
and YES they do accept card payments :)
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Thanks for the info tryaudio..... hhmmmm.... how much na kaya after the price hike ??? ??? ???
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just for you kimosabe "friend" :)
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yup
3800 towers
2200 bookshelves
1800 center
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7800
panalong panalo
at may CC pa pala sa knight audio!
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Patay ang credit card ni misis..... ;D Although if you have cash, mas mura pa rin, kasi ganito kuha ko ng mga DTX 9.5s ko e:
Towers 3610
Center 1615 and kung bibili na ako ng
Bookshelf 2090
Total 7315 lang
that's more than 5% less.
Kaya lang not all the time may pera ang mga adik, so mangungutang muna, he he he. ;)
Thanks for confirming my info, bro tryaudio.
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Sir Arthurallanj, where did you purchase your slim series? tnx
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Effective April 16,2004 Daiichi will have a 25% increase on its product line...FYI lang...
Di yan totoo binayaran yan ng dai ichi ...joke3X ;D
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malaki ang 25% ah
yung isang set na 7,800 magiging 9,750
confirmed ba ito? wala ba tayong dai-ichi insider dito?
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Di yan totoo binayaran yan ng dai ichi ...joke3X ;D
binalita lang yan sa akin g suki shop ko >:(
pero mukhang outrageous nga ang 25% ??? i also want to confirm this eh....
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Sad to say pero totoo balita. 25% nga daw increase starting april including the slim series.. I bought a pair of towers kanina and nabanggit ng saleslady sakin re sa price increase. Malabo na nga daw silang magbigay ng 5% discount kasi medyo hirap na daw sila pag umoorder sa manufacturer. Sa Getz ko nasagap balita na to..
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grabe wala pa akong dtx at magtataas na sila :( siguro nakita ng daiichi na on-demand ang dtx nila kaya tataas na nila ang price. kung walang bumili ng dtx nila for april magrorollback kaya sila? ;D
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sana makakuha nako ng dtx ng april 15 :)
arthur,
no prob!..basta ikaw..hehe
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Mga Bro, Share ko lang itong pic ng Dai-Ichi Speaker ko. Model CT- 813 :) http://www.pbase.com/lance_pdvd/lance_pdvd
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Hello all of you,
Using Dai-ichi / Targa on both HT and car audio is a big F mistake... (sorry dai-ichi)
If you need advice you can make a copy of my HT set-up here in Cebu. Here's my list
DVD player- Pioneer DV-S838A
Receiver - Yamaha RXV1
TV - Pioneer Plasma 60"
Speakers - Cerwin Vega complete package
Additional Subwoofer - Sunfire true subwoofer MKII (pls check at www.sunfire.com)
Cables - all monster cables gauge 16
So you see you need to match your HT from the receiver-dvd-down to your speakers to achieve the greatest sound possible.
And for car audio i would recommend you use the one am currently setting up on my Expedition
Sub-woofer - 6 JBL GTX/i subwoofer
amplifier - 8 Orion amplifier
detail speakers -3pairs MB quart 6 1/2 component speaker
Hope im of help to you..... targa are used in remote areas (ex. dinagat island) so it really S_ _ _s
I like your TV most of all.
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Any news on the Dai-ichi price hike? Nagtaas na ba sila?
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Di ba dai-chi din ang may gawa ng DTX na speakers? Mukhang ok naman daw yun. Yung sa car audio naman budget set-up yung Targa and based from some car audio forums, ok daw ang Targa subs and seps for its price. Just sharing.
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Any news on the Dai-ichi price hike? Nagtaas na ba sila?
april 15 pa... eto update (but dont take my word for it, sabi lng ng suki shop ko)
10-20% pala daw increase on selected items, most of the increase will go to the car audio line (targa)...sa ht nde din niya alam.. pero shempre no official release pa din ang dai-ichi about this (what products would increase) kaya haka-haka pa din ito...
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Thanks maki, my freind is planning to buy one this weekend kasi and the shop he called said that starting Apil 1 eh mag iincrease na. But he called again yesterday and they said na hindi pa nga daw. So guys buy na ;D
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guys,
Grabe lahat ata ng product mag-price increase...
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Tara!!! Mag-welga na din tayo. ;D
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Thanks maki, my freind is planning to buy one this weekend kasi and the shop he called said that starting Apil 1 eh mag iincrease na. But he called again yesterday and they said na hindi pa nga daw. So guys buy na ;D
np,
nagiimbak na nga yung suki shop ko ng produkto ng daiichi eh...sabi din pala niya tataas yung price nung mga in-wall and in-ceiling speakers... ala OEM look =)
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Sir Arthurallanj, where did you purchase your slim series? tnx
Sa Moses Aaron , sir, along Gonzalo Puyat, tel. no.:7354390. Look for Mike, Pakisabi Arthur referred you, para makahingi ka ng additional 5% discount. Hindi pa raw definite kung ilang percent ang increase, sabi kasi sa akin ng mga personnel sa Daiichi baka 20% daw. But definitely, prices would increase come April 1. Sad news...TC.
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grabe wala pa akong dtx at magtataas na sila :( siguro nakita ng daiichi na on-demand ang dtx nila kaya tataas na nila ang price. kung walang bumili ng dtx nila for april magrorollback kaya sila? ;D
I asked the Daiichi personnel, lahat daw ng products nila ang may increase, so this has nothing to do with the demand for their DTXs. Hirap na daw kasi sila e. Mag-WELGA nga talaga kaya tayo no?
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May definite date na ba ang price increasing ng Dai-ichi?
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(http://www.daiichi.ph/imageht019.gif)
Have anyone own or auditioned this Daichi's PL-100 series? Any Feedbacks .............. ;D
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hmmm.... nice looking set-up. I think yan ata yun nakita ko sa showroom sa Raon.
How much kaya?
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Yup yun nga ang nasa showroom sa Raon last few weeks nung nagpaaudition ako ng subs hehehe
I want to audition PL-100 also, unfortunately its not yet link to their equipment. I hope they can link it up soon :)
Price? I think it's cheaper than DTX, it has lower specs than DTX :o
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Aminado naman ang mga taga-Daiichi na mas malakas daw ang DTX nila kesa sa PL100, kahit na nga sa mga bagong systems din nila na kumpleto na with speakers, sub, amps, dvd player and rack(TV na lang kulang), mas maganda pa rin daw ang DTX, yung mga bago kasi, di rin BIWIREABLE e. I think the only top of the line speaker systems nila ay yung DTX 9.5 Slim Series system at ang DTX EFD Pregnant series system lang, kaya lang, considering ang price difference ng EFD Pregs, malaking masyado for just a little more performance, kaya mas ideal pa rin ang DTX. But if you could afford it, magaling din talaga ang EFD Pregnant series. Bilib talaga ako sa Daiichi.
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just auditioned PL100 yesterday at mega, I like PL100 more :)
During the jurassic park scene the PL100 sound was ok "bilog na bilog" , in DTX it's like tearing sound
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basta ako ang inaambisyon ko ngayon, ang DTX euros 6 na speaker system. mas maganda sana ang euros 8 kaya lang masyadong mahal na for me. ambisyon pa lang kasi di ko pa nabibili ang 2 pairs DTX 9.5 bookshelves at 4.15 na sub. baka maoobliga akong bumili nyan eventually kung may Yamaha DSP-AZ2 na ako. hehehe. buti na lang supportive ang misis ko sa hobby ko. ;D
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I think D1 speaker still the best, why?
Dai-1chi speaker design and manufacturing was
based on branded speakers like celestion, JVC, a few
names to account for...actually their customers.
They have the extensive experience on design and manufacturing....
I miss Dai-1chi and Saisho Onkyo...anyone of you guys working for SOI-CED division.
I'm one of former speaker designer...
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I think D1 speaker still the best, why?
Dai-1chi speaker design and manufacturing was
based on branded speakers like celestion, JVC, a few
names to account for...actually their customers.
They have the extensive experience on design and manufacturing....
I miss Dai-1chi and Saisho Onkyo...anyone of you guys working for SOI-CED division.
I'm one of former speaker designer...
I second the motion... Magaling naman talaga ang Pinoy e, given the chance and support.
Bro PanasonicSound,
ang sarap siguro magtrabaho dun, ano? especially kung mahilig ka talaga sa speakers. ;)
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I second the motion... Magaling naman talaga ang Pinoy e, given the chance and support.
Bro PanasonicSound,
ang sarap siguro magtrabaho dun, ano? especially kung mahilig ka talaga sa speakers. ;)
I assure you that...really it is funn doing projects in D1. Especially if you're doing those types
that are unconventional...will make you puzzle, think, exercise your physics and acoustic knowledge.
Me chance ka pa na ma meet at makatrabaho hand-to-hand yung mga sikat na speaker
designers around the world. Like those dudes from Celestion, NXT, MZX, etc...
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I assure you that...really it is funn doing projects in D1. Especially if you're doing those types
that are unconventional...will make you puzzle, think, exercise your physics and acoustic knowledge.
Me chance ka pa na ma meet at makatrabaho hand-to-hand yung mga sikat na speaker
designers around the world. Like those dudes from Celestion, NXT, MZX, etc...
Tumigil na kaya ako ng pag-D-DJ, at pag-ba-banda? At gamitin ko na lang kaya ang pagiging Mech. Eng'r. ko? Mag-apply na lang kaya ako sa Daiichi? Ayos yun, yun siguro ang trabahong talagang mamahalin ko, kaya lang baka matanggal rin agad ako, kasi baka iuwi ko ang lahat ng mga speakers na ginawa ko dun, hehehe. Adik na talaga ako. ;D ;D ;D
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Tumigil na kaya ako ng pag-D-DJ, at pag-ba-banda? At gamitin ko na lang kaya ang pagiging Mech. Eng'r. ko? Mag-apply na lang kaya ako sa Daiichi? Ayos yun, yun siguro ang trabahong talagang mamahalin ko, kaya lang baka matanggal rin agad ako, kasi baka iuwi ko ang lahat ng mga speakers na ginawa ko dun, hehehe. Adik na talaga ako. ;D ;D ;D
Pare pag talagang hilig mo speaker, di malayo magawa mo...
pero no need na maglabas ka...bayaran mo yung mga operator...oks sa kanila...
matindi rin mga operators doon, di ko nga alam kung paano nila nailalabas yung mga subwoofer module, DTX with 12in subwoofer unit. Pero kung mas maganda legal na lang...punta ka sa Raon (cleaning my handz...)
Actually, yung ilalim ng kama ko, kabinet sa kusina, stock room, pati ilalim ng lababo, puro speaker...hirap talaga ng ganitong bisyo...matindi pa ata sa drugs tama.
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grabe, very intriguing, hala kayo mga taga-D1... hehehe... Thank you bro PS.
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went to raon and seen a lot of speaker brands.
how does Konzert or Magnum 5.1's compare with Daichi?
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just came from the EENT, i had a case of harden ear wax near my ear drum (na medyo matagal na),
so that's why my DTX sounded blur and flat. after i got my ears cleaned, WOAH!!!
highs... crisp (i called this section weak before i biwired it)
mid... detailed pa rin
bass... dito lang TALAGA medyo kulang, it has the bass but not the sound i wanted.
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just came from the EENT, i had a case of harden ear wax near my ear drum (na medyo matagal na),
so that's why my DTX sounded blur and flat. after i got my ears cleaned, WOAH!!!
pre, magandang upgrade yan, joke only. ;D ;D ;D sir, peace tayoooo!!!!!!!
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He he ;D In another forum, I opined that the ears are often a neglected part of the entire chain of components needed to maximiize our listening experience. There was this guy who kept changing speakers as he can't seem to be happy with any that he had brought home. He was entirely relieved when, after cleaning his ears, his latest speakers suddenly became a revelation. ;D
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just came from the EENT, i had a case of harden ear wax near my ear drum (na medyo matagal na),
so that's why my DTX sounded blur and flat. after i got my ears cleaned, WOAH!!!
pre, magandang upgrade yan, joke only. ;D ;D ;D sir, peace tayoooo!!!!!!!
Okey 'to, ah! Magkano kaya aabutin ang upgrade na 'to? ;D ;)
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Pwede mong ipost yan sa "What is your latest retirement in your system" thread:
TUTULI ;D ;D ;D
Peace man...... ;D
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ok nga eh, pinaka murang upgrade!!!
ok na mga gamit ngayon, una may pinapatak akong gamot for 3 days to soften the earwax
tapos parang ipapa-power spray sa loob ng tenga, then flush then wipe clean. 5 seconds lang yata ginawa.
hi-tech na mga gamit ngayon!
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ok nga eh, pinaka murang upgrade!!!
ok na mga gamit ngayon, una may pinapatak akong gamot for 3 days to soften the earwax
tapos parang ipapa-power spray sa loob ng tenga, then flush then wipe clean. 5 seconds lang yata ginawa.
hi-tech na mga gamit ngayon!
makapag pa check din nga... ;D
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PANASONICSOUND
tanong ko lng po kung gumagawa pa kyo ng box type loudspeakers ung mga bk-10 prang wala ne ang ganda kasi nun eh. nakita ko frequency response eh 35hz-20khz tapos 92db/1w/1m pa..
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just came from the EENT, i had a case of harden ear wax near my ear drum (na medyo matagal na),
so that's why my DTX sounded blur and flat. after i got my ears cleaned, WOAH!!!
highs... crisp (i called this section weak before i biwired it)
mid... detailed pa rin
bass... dito lang TALAGA medyo kulang, it has the bass but not the sound i wanted.
Bespren kimpoy,
Magpatingin na rin kaya ako, baka parang bakal na sa tigas ang tutuli ko sa pag-babanda at pagkahilig sa audio. Hehehe ;D
Bro Kimo,
Pwede rin sigurong "What's your latest upgrade?" TUTULI REMOVAL! hehehe ;D
O kaya "What's your latest HEARING EQUIPTMENT Upgrade?", or "Methods of EAR Upgrades" as revealed by bro Kimpoy. Haay, ba't kaya nakakalimutan natin ang mga tenga natin? :D
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oo nga eh, sabi ng doctor na push sa may eardrum yung earwax dahil sa cotton buds,
SIGURO unti unting nag bui-build up and unti unti din, lumalabo na din ang pandinig ko na hindi ko napapansin.
after pa lang i power spray, hinigop ng machine yung water and mga residues.
kaya from now on hindi na ako gagamit ng cotton buds, tutuli remover na lang
(oopss teka lang sabi ng doctor wag masyadong malinis dahil may gamit ang tutuli sa tenga natin.)
nariring ko nga sarili ko when i speak (imagine nasa loob ka ng speaker you can hear the vibrations etc etc)
250 lang ang binayad ko pero OT na tayo
back to daichi, enjoy na enjoy ko ngayon ang DTX ko lalo na yung rears ko malapit na ma break in.
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oo nga eh, sabi ng doctor na push sa may eardrum yung earwax dahil sa cotton buds,
SIGURO unti unting nag bui-build up and unti unti din, lumalabo na din ang pandinig ko na hindi ko napapansin.
after pa lang i power spray, hinigop ng machine yung water and mga residues.
kaya from now on hindi na ako gagamit ng cotton buds, tutuli remover na lang
(oopss teka lang sabi ng doctor wag masyadong malinis dahil may gamit ang tutuli sa tenga natin.)
nariring ko nga sarili ko when i speak (imagine nasa loob ka ng speaker you can hear the vibrations etc etc)
250 lang ang binayad ko pero OT na tayo
back to daichi, enjoy na enjoy ko ngayon ang DTX ko lalo na yung rears ko malapit na ma break in.
pre pareho nangyari sakin pero 100 lang nagasto ko sa UST out-patient department. naririnig ko na ngayon mga anay sa bahay namin.
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oo nga eh, sabi ng doctor na push sa may eardrum yung earwax dahil sa cotton buds,
SIGURO unti unting nag bui-build up and unti unti din, lumalabo na din ang pandinig ko na hindi ko napapansin.
after pa lang i power spray, hinigop ng machine yung water and mga residues.
kaya from now on hindi na ako gagamit ng cotton buds, tutuli remover na lang
(oopss teka lang sabi ng doctor wag masyadong malinis dahil may gamit ang tutuli sa tenga natin.)
nariring ko nga sarili ko when i speak (imagine nasa loob ka ng speaker you can hear the vibrations etc etc)
250 lang ang binayad ko pero OT na tayo
back to daichi, enjoy na enjoy ko ngayon ang DTX ko lalo na yung rears ko malapit na ma break in.
Ako nga bro, gusto ko na rin ng DTX 9.5 Bookshelf e. I think this is the weakness of my system because I use 3 pairs of Audiofile SA-3s for my rears. Nag-iipon na nga ako e, I want at least 2 pairs. Then DTX 4.15 Sub after that. Haaay, wala pa ang pera sa kamay ko, ginagastos ko na sya, hehehe ;D ;D ;D
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Anyone seen or heard these new speakers from daiichi? i've seen pics from their website and they look promising...but you need an amp to handle loads of 4 ohms below since it says in the specs that the average impedance is 5 ohms.
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Guys,
What is the best frequency setting ng us audio sub? mine is DTX 5.8 ( not completely kasi may balance pa ko kay qball e ;D ) and parehas lang sila ng US audio. pati un casing. naiba lang un logo. imbes na US audio, DTX nakalagay. Niwey, isa lang naman gumawa sa kanila e.
tsaka dalawa input nya and sabi ni qball, maski isa lang gamitin, pede na. kasi what i did was diniretso ko na lang un RCA from the DVD to the sub. kelangan bang gumamit ng y connector? san makakabili nun? may pagbabago ba? tnx.......
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@ultraman,
aba nabili mo na pala ang dtx 5.8 ni qball hehehe aagawan sana kita eh >:D anong balita sa performance? yumayanig na ba bahay tsaka sa mga kapitbahay mo? ;D testing mo sa private ryan(3rd from the last chapter yung dumadating ang mga tanke) tsaka armagedon(chapter 2 yun nahuhulog ang mga asteroid sa city) test mo kung yumayanig ang kwarto mo. Yun sana ang gusto kong iaudition last week eh hehehe kahapon naman busy ako kaya di na ako nakapagreply sa msg mo 8) Yun ang inaudition sa akin ng tito ko at yumayanig ang buong kwarto nya kala mo gigiba na hehehe kinabit nya yung pioneer sub sa dvd player at yun lang ang pinagana nya. Kaya gusto kong maaudition ang dtx ni qball na sub out lang ang nakakabit sa dvd player. 8)
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yung y-connector pala marami sa raon tanong ka kahit saang store dun meron
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yung y-connector pala marami sa raon tanong ka kahit saang store dun meron
Bro,
Question! Ang Y-connector ba na sinasabi nyo ay yung cord na may isang male RCA jack that is split into two male RCA jacks? (Or you could also say na 2 rca merged into 1). Kasi eto yun sa pagkakaalam ko, but I just wanna make sure din. Thanks! ;)
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Ganito yata yung RCA Y-Connector....
(http://www.m-99.co.uk/ry5.jpg)
(http://www.m-99.co.uk/ry6.jpg)
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bro kimosabe,
is it still considered a y-connector regardless of the jacks whether all males or females or a combination of both? Kasi ang mga so-called y-connectors ko ay puro male. Thank you, bro.
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anyone heard this new line of subs from Dai-1chi?
reviews naman dyan...
they come in 8, 10 and 12 inches forward-firing drivers but wasn't able to see if they come in ported or sealed type designs.
:-* :-*
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bro kimosabe,
is it still considered a y-connector regardless of the jacks whether all males or females or a combination of both? Kasi ang mga so-called y-connectors ko ay puro male. Thank you, bro.
Yes i think so... but im not sure better ask the experts :)
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Yes i think so... but im not sure better ask the experts :)
bro,
thanks ha? Mga Sir Gurus, a little help? TIA.
Bro audioslave,
I think they'd perform very similarly to their other brand names, same manufacturer e, especially if the construction is very similar. Remember usaudio 508 and DTX 5.8? Label lang ang nabago. This may be the Studio Acoustics label for the DTX 4.x series. But if different ang construction, there may be significant improvements. ;D
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@ultraman,
aba nabili mo na pala ang dtx 5.8 ni qball hehehe aagawan sana kita eh >:D anong balita sa performance? yumayanig na ba bahay tsaka sa mga kapitbahay mo? ;D testing mo sa private ryan(3rd from the last chapter yung dumadating ang mga tanke) tsaka armagedon(chapter 2 yun nahuhulog ang mga asteroid sa city) test mo kung yumayanig ang kwarto mo. Yun sana ang gusto kong iaudition last week eh hehehe kahapon naman busy ako kaya di na ako nakapagreply sa msg mo 8) Yun ang inaudition sa akin ng tito ko at yumayanig ang buong kwarto nya kala mo gigiba na hehehe kinabit nya yung pioneer sub sa dvd player at yun lang ang pinagana nya. Kaya gusto kong maaudition ang dtx ni qball na sub out lang ang nakakabit sa dvd player. 8)
mga pare try nyo yung Lord of the Ring "Fellowship of The Ring"...for dynamics...Chapter title...something with "BRIDGE". For ARMAGEDDON...try Ch. 16 and Ch. 26 (for kickbass)...
Hope will help.
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Mga bros,
Ano bang impedance requirements ng DTX - floorstanders? ang spkr imp reqmnts ng receiver ko ay 8-16 ohms. match kay sila kung sakali?-- thnx for any input on this-- ;)
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Mga bros,
Ano bang impedance requirements ng DTX - floorstanders? ang spkr imp reqmnts ng receiver ko ay 8-16 ohms. match kay sila kung sakali?-- thnx for any input on this-- ;)
The DTX 9.5 Towers are rated at 6 Ohms. So, basically, not so. But pu-pwede pa rin as long as you don't turn that knob too high as it might get burned. It's like having a small faucet for a big hose. But at a sensitivity of 90dB, di naman sya hard to drive. Still, it would be more ideal to have a speaker that has the same or higher impedance than the amp. Just my 2 cents. ;)
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bro arthur- thnks!
question lang bro ulit, if i will connect an 8 ohm speaker in series with the DTX para more or less maging 14 ohms sya, within the specs of my receiver, ok din kaya ang performance nito? thnx again. ;)
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bro arthur- thnks!
question lang bro ulit, if i will connect an 8 ohm speaker in series with the DTX para more or less maging 14 ohms sya, within the specs of my receiver, ok din kaya ang performance nito? thnx again. ;)
Hihina ang volume ng speakers mo, both of them, so I wouldn't recommend it, although pu-pwede din sya. Ano ba ang amp mo? Alam ko kasi ang mga Sakura amps are rated at 8-16 ohms din e, pero ang daming gumagamit ng Sakura-DTX combo, and so far, I haven't heard anybody mention that their amps got burned. So, go ahead, just remember not to overwork that amp by turning it up too high. Of course, you amp would last longer if matched ang impedance. And I'm sure ang engineers na nag-design ng amp na yan nagbibigay din ng allowance. Listen to them na lang, if kahit na midway pa lang ang volume setting mo e, medyo distorted na ang tunog e, baka di nga talaga kaya. ;)
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Hi!
Can anybody please post link for the Dai-1chi website. I've been trying the old site www.dai-1chi.com but it seems its dead ???
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Hi!
Can anybody please post link for the Dai-1chi website. I've been trying the old site www.dai-1chi.com but it seems its dead ???
www.daiichi.ph ;)
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Hi!
Can anybody please post link for the Dai-1chi website. I've been trying the old site www.dai-1chi.com but it seems its dead ???
Try this one bro. http://www.daiichi.ph/home%20theater.htm :)
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Ayun na pla yun kay brother arthurallanj. Yun ang home page ng daiichi. :)
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anyone know how much the dtx "pregnant series" cost? heard and saw them before, ok naman
ty
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That's what I love about PinoyDVD, everybody's so eager to help. Hi, bro lance. TC. ;D
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That's what I love about PinoyDVD, everybody's so eager to help. Hi, bro lance. TC. ;D
yoo brother, eto pa basa basa na lang muna ako. Tameme ako ngayon kasi nag iipon to the max ako eh.... :-\
Tube amp?...GC amp?...Nirv speaker?...34" Surplus TV?..New custom made AV rack?....hayyyy daming bibilhin.....buti sana kung may pambili...yung iba dyan si misis ang sagot eh..yung iba...yung mga mahal....ako lang daw ang bahala.... :'(
Hirap ng bisyong ito...... ;Dnakakaaliw.
Tace care din bro arthurallnj :)
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Guys, tanong lang po... what woud be the effect if I will use a higher wattage amp matching it with lower wattage speaker? I'm using kasi a sakura amp with 250 w and DTX naman ang gamit kong speaker. DTX is only 145 w. Help naman.. baka masira kaagad ang speakers ko. Tsaka yun surround speakers ko (AIWA compo ;D), kapag naka set sa DTS may time na parang nagka crack yun sound nya. Ano kaya cause nun? Pero pag naka DD mode, wala naman. Siguro nagpaparamdam na yung DTX 9.5B hehe... ;D
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Guys, tanong lang po... what woud be the effect if I will use a higher wattage amp matching it with lower wattage speaker? I'm using kasi a sakura amp with 250 w and DTX naman ang gamit kong speaker. DTX is only 145 w. Help naman.. baka masira kaagad ang speakers ko.
Ang alam ko bibigay ang speaker mo kaya konting alalay lang huwag mong itotodo ang volume hehehe :) Pero madaming naka DTX-Sakura kaya di naman siguro bibigay agad yan eh hehehe
Tsaka yun surround speakers ko (AIWA compo ), kapag naka set sa DTS may time na parang nagka crack yun sound nya. Ano kaya cause nun? Pero pag naka DD mode, wala naman. Siguro nagpaparamdam na yung DTX 9.5B hehe...
Tama ka nagpaparamdam na ang DTX rear hehehe I suggest tower din ang ilagay mo sa Rear mo dahil yun din ang balak ko kung medyo naayos ayos na ang spacing dito sa bahay hehehe ;DYung pagkacrack ng sound ay sobrang lakas ang bass nyan at nasakal sa pagbayo ang speakers, kailangan mo ng may woofer para maabsorb ang bass nya kasi walang bass filter itong amp natin di tulad ng mga branded na pwede mong ifilter at ilipat sa subwoofer. Sa akin may mga konting crack din sa rear old sony speakers pero sa "UNDERWORLD" walang kacrack crack na sound ang ganda.......... 8) Try mo na lang siguro ang Underworld dyan! oo nga pala kailan ba pwedeng bumisita sa inyo ng marinig ko na ang future setup ko? ;D :D
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Guys, tanong lang po... what woud be the effect if I will use a higher wattage amp matching it with lower wattage speaker? I'm using kasi a sakura amp with 250 w and DTX naman ang gamit kong speaker. DTX is only 145 w. Help naman.. baka masira kaagad ang speakers ko. Tsaka yun surround speakers ko (AIWA compo ;D), kapag naka set sa DTS may time na parang nagka crack yun sound nya. Ano kaya cause nun? Pero pag naka DD mode, wala naman. Siguro nagpaparamdam na yung DTX 9.5B hehe... ;D
The ideal rating for an amp is 20% higher than the max. speaker input rating, so at 145W for the DTX 9.5Towers, 175W amp ang ideal to make sure that neither one hurts the other. But since Sakura amps are usually rated at 8 ohm loads, and the DTX 9.5 Towers are rated at 6 Ohms, medyo you have nothing to fear. My own personal "GUESSTIMATE" formula is this: For the speakers, at 145W/6Ohms=24.16+20%=29W/Ohm to drive it ideally. Sa amp, at 250W/8ohm=31.25W/Ohm. I multiply this by the impedance of the speaker it drives, 31.25W/Ohm x 6 Ohms = 187.5W. So, my personal conclusion is, the DTX 9.5 Towers are like driven by a 187.5Watt amplifier which is a bit higher than the ideal 175W amp it should be driven with. So okay na okay sya. Remember mga bro, ang formulang ito is just my own, I'm not saying it's correct, this is just to give me a bit of an idea with regards to matching amps and speakers with different impedances. ;D
Now, with regards to your Aiwa speakers, since mas malakas naman talaga in terms of volume and clarity ang DTS encoded audio because of its lesser compression than Dolby Digital, it definitely has an effect on you speakers. Sa Yamaha amp ko, kung DD, set ang volume at -30dB, but sa DTS, at -40dB lang. Now, the reason why your speakers are cracking is that it can't handle the signal that is fed to it, either because mababa ang power rating ng Aiwa speakers mo or, baka may sira ang woofer/driver cone nya. So, paki-check kung which. Hope i helped. TC. ;)
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yoo brother, eto pa basa basa na lang muna ako. Tameme ako ngayon kasi nag iipon to the max ako eh.... :-\
Tube amp?...GC amp?...Nirv speaker?...34" Surplus TV?..New custom made AV rack?....hayyyy daming bibilhin.....buti sana kung may pambili...yung iba dyan si misis ang sagot eh..yung iba...yung mga mahal....ako lang daw ang bahala.... :'(
Hirap ng bisyong ito...... ;Dnakakaaliw.
Tace care din bro arthurallnj :)
Haaay, pareho lang tayo, bro. Nagbabasa na nga lang ako ng mga buy and sell e, kahit na mura na. Tulad ng Yamaha 440, at 10K negotiable pa, parang gusto ko nang kunin e, kaya lang, nag-iipon din ako. At bibili kasi kami ni misis ng scooter e, at nagpapagawa pa ng bahay namin. To buy list ko? Eto: at least 2 pairs ng DTX 9.5 Bookshelves, DTX 4.15 Subwoofer, 34" Sony DRC Wega Surplus TV. In order yan, bro. Agreement kasi namin ng wifey is ako sa bookshelves at Sub, dagdagan ko na lang daw para sa TV this X-mas. Tapos hinihintay ko pa ang promise sa akin ng friend ko na nasa Japan, either Yamaha DSP-AZ2, or Pioneer VSX-D812. Libre lang to. Sya rin ang nagbigay ng Yamaha DSP-AX430 ko. Ganyan kami ka-close, hehe. Yeah, she's my ex. Andami na kasi naming pinagdaanan kaya ganyan. hehe. Eto lang naman bisyo ko e, kaya siguro supportive naman ang wife ko. Kahit parang wala nang katapusan, gusto ko pa kasi ng DTX euros 6 system in the future e. hehe, baka next year naman... hehe... MABUHAY ANG MGA AV ADIK!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Haaay, pareho lang tayo, bro. Nagbabasa na nga lang ako ng mga buy and sell e, kahit na mura na. Tulad ng Yamaha 440, at 10K negotiable pa, parang gusto ko nang kunin e, kaya lang, nag-iipon din ako. At bibili kasi kami ni misis ng scooter e, at nagpapagawa pa ng bahay namin. To buy list ko? Eto: at least 2 pairs ng DTX 9.5 Bookshelves, DTX 4.15 Subwoofer, 34" Sony DRC Wega Surplus TV. In order yan, bro. Agreement kasi namin ng wifey is ako sa bookshelves at Sub, dagdagan ko na lang daw para sa TV this X-mas. Tapos hinihintay ko pa ang promise sa akin ng friend ko na nasa Japan, either Yamaha DSP-AZ2, or Pioneer VSX-D812. Libre lang to. Sya rin ang nagbigay ng Yamaha DSP-AX430 ko. Ganyan kami ka-close, hehe. Yeah, she's my ex. Andami na kasi naming pinagdaanan kaya ganyan. hehe. Eto lang naman bisyo ko e, kaya siguro supportive naman ang wife ko. Kahit parang wala nang katapusan, gusto ko pa kasi ng DTX euros 6 system in the future e. hehe, baka next year naman... hehe... MABUHAY ANG MGA AV ADIK!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Bro, :D ha ha ha may kapareho pla akong sitwasyon dito..he he eh ....yan lang kagandahan sa mga tulad nating pinag iipunan muna ang mga bagay na gustong bilin....habang nag iipon ka at malapit na eh..ang sarap ng feeling. Tapos pag nabili mo na, talagang chi ne cherish. Hindi tulad ng mga mayayaman na pag may gusto bili agad. parang wala lang.... ;) kaya mas masarap mabuhay ng simple lang tulad natin. Sana kung may mayayamang nakakakita ng msg ko na ito at gusto nyo akong pasayahin eh bili nyo lang po ako ng Tube amp..... ;D hayyyy..wish wish wish..
MABUHAY ANG MGA AV ADIK...YAHHHOO..
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Brother lance, tama ka jan!!! ;D sarap ng feeling kapag nabili mo yun gusto mo bilhin. Yun tipong pinaghirapan mo muna yun pambili mo then suddenly, ayan na!!! mabibili mo na!! Sarap ng feelings.... haaayyyy.. O0
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Gusto ko na ng DTX 9.5 Bookshelf, gusto ko na ng DTX 4.15 na sub. Antagal naman kasi ng X-mas bonus e. Kakainis! Pinag-iipunan ko na ngayon ang bookshelf e, andami kasing gastusin. Waaaaaaah!!!!!! Napapanaginipan ko na sila. Waaaaaaahh!!!!!!
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@Daihard, Pre punta ka na lang dito sa house anytime. Were gonna rock my house hehehe... O0
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@pareng ultraman,
pre send mo sa akin ang complete address mo at paano magcommute from quiapo or monumento kung saan mas malapit at madaling makasakay hehehe pwede mong masend sa cell ko 0917-3768675 or sa email ko [email protected] hehehehe salamat...... tara gibain na natin buong barangay nyo hahahaha
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im new here sa set up....id like hear some good advises sa mga guru dito
i am planning to buy the EFD pregnant series ng Dai-Ichi.....lahat ng speakers including sub. i saw it in their raon showroom.inaudition ko...sarap naman pakinggan...crisp and clear naman.
ano ang masasabi nyo mga bro who have this or anyone na nakadinig na tumunog ito?
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I already heard that speaker at megamall showroom and I noticed that it has lot of BASS. I can say it is in the boomy side. The highs and mids is lacking and not proportion to bass as I may say. But that just me bro. :)
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Bro raymondsx,
Why not get the DTX euros 6 ng Daiichi, it's the smaller brother of the EFD. Pregnant baffle din, this sounds clearer since it has smaller drivers and less bass. Mura pa. Eto rin nga ang next project ko sa speakers e.
Bro lance,
I would second that. But you'd have to expect medyo bassy tong EFD since it has triple bass drivers. ;D
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Sometimes mas madaling remedyohan yung malakas ang bass relative to other drivers. Mas mahirap pag wa-bass. ;D
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Sometimes mas madaling remedyohan yung malakas ang bass relative to other drivers. Mas mahirap pag wa-bass. ;D
uh--huh! yup yup yup! ;D
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just bought an rxv440 and i matched it with dai ichi dtx efd pregnant series speakers w/ 512l mk2 dtx sub.
gemini hifi audio cables lang binili ko.eto ang kinaya ng munti kong ipon.
rxv 440---13k
efd pregnant ng dtx / dai ichi
(center, tower type front and bookshelf type sorround) w/ 512 L mk2 na dtx sub---- 27k
50mtrs. gemini and nobelle audio cables---3k
panasonic dvd player progressive scan---6k
mga tsong im super satisfied na...panis ang sm cinema's (hehe)
well its just me...so ano masasabi nyo mga expert kong ka-forum?
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Mr raymondsx,
Congrats sa new toys mo sir.. will provide you happy watching and listening pleasure through out the years... pre experiment on placement/position of speaker and play with your AVR to maximize it potencial mas maganda pa yan after some tweaks and balancing... ;) ;)
Lance,
Bro, :D ha ha ha may kapareho pla akong sitwasyon dito..he he eh ....yan lang kagandahan sa mga tulad nating pinag iipunan muna ang mga bagay na gustong bilin....habang nag iipon ka at malapit na eh..ang sarap ng feeling. Tapos pag nabili mo na, talagang chi ne cherish. Hindi tulad ng mga mayayaman na pag may gusto bili agad. parang wala lang.... ;) kaya mas masarap mabuhay ng simple lang tulad natin. Sana kung may mayayamang nakakakita ng msg ko na ito at gusto nyo akong pasayahin eh bili nyo lang po ako ng Tube amp..... ;D hayyyy..wish wish wish..
MABUHAY ANG MGA AV ADIK...YAHHHOO..
Pre ganyan di ako.. AV adik kahit sa 2 channel lang PANALO na!!
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Mr raymondsx,
Congrats sa new toys mo sir.. will provide you happy watching and listening pleasure through out the years... pre experiment on placement/position of speaker and play with your AVR to maximize it potencial mas maganda pa yan after some tweaks and balancing... ;) ;)
Lance,
Pre ganyan di ako.. AV adik kahit sa 2 channel lang PANALO na!!
tnx pare....ill do your suggestions
nga pala 440 is an EISA award 2003-2004 and 6.1 discrete na sya...(dehins na phantom)
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tnx pare....ill do your suggestions
nga pala 440 is an EISA award 2003-2004 and 6.1 discrete na sya...(dehins na phantom)
Bro,
Can the 440 provide adequate power for the speakers that you have? Ano nga rating ng 440? Kasi I like the 440 a lot kaya lang I'm not sure if it has enough power. Thanks bro.
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Sometimes mas madaling remedyohan yung malakas ang bass relative to other drivers. Mas mahirap pag wa-bass. ;D
tma ka bro, ang mahirap lang pag walang adjust-an yung amp mo for bass. minsan nga naiisip ko paano pag bumili ako ng amp na walng adjustment sa bass eh yung speaker ko ang daming lamang bass eh.......paano kaya? ???
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tma ka bro, ang mahirap lang pag walang adjust-an yung amp mo for bass. minsan nga naiisip ko paano pag bumili ako ng amp na walng adjustment sa bass eh yung speaker ko ang daming lamang bass eh.......paano kaya? ???
Taming a speaker with plenty of bass:
1 You can stuff the port (if it has) with socks or crumpled paper or anything so that the cabinet internal air pressure loads the woofer compliance.
2 You can put the speaker on a pedestal to raise it above the floor thereby reducing bass reinforcement. The higher the least perceived bass.
3 You can move the speaker farther away from corners or walls again reducing bass reinforcement. The farther away the least bass perceived.
4 You can tweak the crossover inside with series resistors to divide the LF voltage going into the woofer (sort of putting a variable L-pad or potentiometer along the LF path)
5 You can teak the crossover to have a lower crossover frequency (assuming the tweet can hack the lower crossover point) thereby decreasing the woofer's operating range.
6 You can change the long-throw woofer with a stiffer cone or one with lower efficiency.
7 You can mass-load the speaker cabinet to increase its resonant frequency.
8 You can treat the room with bass traps if you notice bass peaking.
9 You can insert an equalzier along the LF path to tame LF peaking (but not boost perceived cancellation)
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Bro,
Can the 440 provide adequate power for the speakers that you have? Ano nga rating ng 440? Kasi I like the 440 a lot kaya lang I'm not sure if it has enough power. Thanks bro.
yes bro...kayang laya naman ng 440....wala pa nga sa 12oclock ang dial ng volume e...i have a large home theater room...that is why i got the dtx efd pregnant series speakers tsaka maporma kc tingnan at afoordable pa (php 27 k).sabi nga ng pinagbilhan ko masyado daw malakas set-up ko.im really happy na kahit nakarinig na ako ng mga mission, mordaunt and b&w speakers.
here's the specs bro...try these links
http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/RECEIVER/RX-V440.htm
http://www.eisa-awards.org/awards/2003-2004/ht.htm
tnx for the askin bro...
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Bro raymondsx,
Why not get the DTX euros 6 ng Daiichi, it's the smaller brother of the EFD. Pregnant baffle din, this sounds clearer since it has smaller drivers and less bass. Mura pa. Eto rin nga ang next project ko sa speakers e.
Bro lance,
I would second that. But you'd have to expect medyo bassy tong EFD since it has triple bass drivers. ;D
tama ka pare...doon kc sa listening room sa raon ng dai-ichi walang euro 6 na nakaset-up.ang na auditon ko e efd series.pa phase-out na nga daw etong efd kc papalitan ng euro-8 which is available na sa raon...cheaper than efd and they say better sounding daw for a medium size room.it looks as nice as the efd pregnant series.japorms din.
tnx for reply bro
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tama ka pare...doon kc sa listening room sa raon ng dai-ichi walang euro 6 na nakaset-up.ang na auditon ko e efd series.pa phase-out na nga daw etong efd kc papalitan ng euro-8 which is available na sa raon...cheaper than efd and they say better sounding daw for a medium size room.it looks as nice as the efd pregnant series.japorms din.
tnx for reply bro
Sabagay, bro, dati I thought the EFD was the final frontier for me, meaning if I could get it, tigil na ako dun, kaya lang it was just way too expensive for me. So I'm happy for you that you got those, inambisyon ko rin kasi dati yan e, kaya lang dun na lang ako sa EUROS 6, o kaya sa EUROS 8 kung ma-a-afford ko. Enjoy your toys bro. Thanks. ;)
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Bro raymondsx,
Why not get the DTX euros 6 ng Daiichi, it's the smaller brother of the EFD. Pregnant baffle din, this sounds clearer since it has smaller drivers and less bass. Mura pa. Eto rin nga ang next project ko sa speakers e.
Sir arthur, how much po Euros 6 ng Daiichi? Am using DTX Slim but want an all black setup...baka pwedi sa akin Euros 6 :) Thanks
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Sir arthur, how much po Euros 6 ng Daiichi? Am using DTX Slim but want an all black setup...baka pwedi sa akin Euros 6 :) Thanks
17K+++, for the entire system, towers, center, rears, and sub. Almost 18K. Ang binigay kasi sa akin ni Mike na catalog walang individual pricing e, system na. Gusto ko rin nga nito e, pero pag nakumpleto ko ang euros 6 system, hanggang dun na lang siguro. Ang DTX 9.5 system + 4.12 na sub would cost around 15,500, so konti lang ang diperensya. Sige, bili na para mabigyan mo naman ng review, hehe. Ingat! ;D
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Sir arthur, how much po Euros 6 ng Daiichi? Am using DTX Slim but want an all black setup...baka pwedi sa akin Euros 6 :) Thanks
Sir, kung mag-a-upgrade ka sa Euros 6 ay willing ako na amponin ang DTX Slim mo. Kaya sige na magEuros na! >:D >:D >:D
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naks abababa pic naman diyan ng euro6?
has anyone auditioned this?
any comments?
rock solid pa rin ang Yamaha440+DTX ko!
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(http://www.daiichi.ph/imageht0020.gif)
Ay walang retail? Plan ko sana kung maganda syang magperform compare to DTX Slim is to get Center and Tower muna.
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aba... ang pogi ah!!!
wala bang retail?
magkano ang set niyan?
any head to head matchup versus the DTX Slim Series?
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Sir, kung mag-a-upgrade ka sa Euros 6 ay willing ako na amponin ang DTX Slim mo. Kaya sige na magEuros na! >:D >:D >:D
Ay, sorry, bro ha? Di ko kasi ipinapaampon ang mga anak ko e. Plano ko kasi dun is ilagay sya sa kwarto namin eventually, so may nakalaan na na lugar para sa kanya. Hehe. I rarely sell my babies kasi e. Sorry!! ;D ;D
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(http://www.daiichi.ph/imageht0020.gif)
Ay walang retail? Plan ko sana kung maganda syang magperform compare to DTX Slim is to get Center and Tower muna.
It can be bought in retail, kaya lang di ko kasi natanong sa Moses Aaron ang individual prices. Ang nakalagay lang kasi sa catalog na naibigay ni Mike sa akin ang yung package price lang e. But definitely, they can be bought separately. Suggestion ko? Buy the towers first, malaki ang difference sa performance. As with the centers and bookshelves, di gaanong malaki ang difference sa DTX 9.5. ;D
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aba... ang pogi ah!!!
wala bang retail?
magkano ang set niyan?
any head to head matchup versus the DTX Slim Series?
As I mentioned, it can be bought in retail. They do look better than the EFD pregnant system, both the Euros 8 and Euros 6 have tamer bass than the EFD series, clarity and detail are great, at least for me, ha? The towers have a substantial difference in performance, mas full bodied ang bass ng Euros, unlike ng 9.5 na inadequate ang bass if without a sub to back it up. The centers and the bookshelfs are very similar in terms of performance. Those are just my personal opinion about the said speakers. I'm no expert po. he he. Personal experience lang po ang foundation ko. ;D
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Para saan ba yung switch sa DTX 4.x subwoofers na 5.1 and stereo? I hear no difference between the two whenever I switch from 5.1 to stereo or vice versa.
Thanks.
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It can be bought in retail, kaya lang di ko kasi natanong sa Moses Aaron ang individual prices. Ang nakalagay lang kasi sa catalog na naibigay ni Mike sa akin ang yung package price lang e. But definitely, they can be bought separately. Suggestion ko? Buy the towers first, malaki ang difference sa performance. As with the centers and bookshelves, di gaanong malaki ang difference sa DTX 9.5. ;D
Bro ganda nyan ah. lintek, dai-ichi ba yan?...galing ng porma. compare mo ang performance nya sa CT-813 bro ano masasabi mo?....CT-813 yun classic tower. intriga lang ako eh. :)
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Para saan ba yung switch sa DTX 4.x subwoofers na 5.1 and stereo? I hear no difference between the two whenever I switch from 5.1 to stereo or vice versa.
Thanks.
Bro, if you're asking me, sensya na, di ko rin alam e. I don't have a DTX 4.x sub pa e. Sa ibang subs na nakita ko, they bring the crossover frequency range higher since music bass signals have higher frequencies than those of HT. Try mo kaya ibang source? Or maybe, futile na sya since may cutoff adjustment na. ;D
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Bro ganda nyan ah. lintek, dai-ichi ba yan?...galing ng porma. compare mo ang performance nya sa CT-813 bro ano masasabi mo?....CT-813 yun classic tower. intriga lang ako eh. :)
I couldn't be certain bro, ha? Kasi I never auditioned them side by side e. But, sa bass, medyo malakas din ang Euros, even stronger and cleaner than the CT813, I think. One point where the CT813 would be lacking when compared to the Euros is the clarity, the CT813 tends to have some details muffled out when it gets loud, maybe because it's not biwirable. The Euros have better detail even at loud volumes for both HT and Music. But that's just me. ;D
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Gawin kong gradual yung upgrade ko. Bili ako ng euro 6 tower then gawin kong surround your DTX tower ko. hehehe
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BTW, ano difference ng Mylar and Soft Dome? Euro6 uses Soft Dome sa Tower while Mylar naman sa Center and Surround?
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Mga sirs, pwede ba ang Sakura 387 for Euros 6? Power handling kasi ng Euros 6 tower is 100w lang and Sakura has 250wx2 for fronts. Di kaya masunog and speaker? Mukha kasing alternative option ito from the DTX 9.5T. Kontinh help naman po. Thanks! ???
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Mga sirs, pwede ba ang Sakura 387 for Euros 6? Power handling kasi ng Euros 6 tower is 100w lang and Sakura has 250wx2 for fronts. Di kaya masunog and speaker? Mukha kasing alternative option ito from the DTX 9.5T. Kontinh help naman po. Thanks! ???
Bro,
Please check the actual power rating sa product itself, kasi very often ang sa website inaccurate e. Check the back of the speaker. The reason why I'm doubting the spec on the website is because of the fact that the DTX 9.5 Tower is rated at 140W max. The euros, having more drivers might be able to handle higher power. But, if ganoon talaga ang rating ng euros 6, then you may opt for the DTX 9.5 Towers because mas mataas ang max power input rating. Here's my own little way of determining if a speaker can handle an amp. Since the DTX 9.5T is rated at 140W at 6 Ohms and the Sakura 387 at 250W at 8 Ohms, I don't think you should look at your amp as still supplying the same power at that impedance. My personal formula is this: Sakura; 250W / 8 Ohms = 31.25W/Ohm, At 6 Ohms; 31.25W/Ohm x 6 Ohms = 187.5 W. At 140w for the dtx 9.5Ts, the ideal amp power is 20% higher than the rating of the speaker. So it should ideally be driven by a 168W amp. Very close naman ang figures ng amp at speaker so, I don't think masusunog ang DTX 9.5T sa Sakura. Now, if the euros are really rated at 100Watts max lang, then I guess there's a possibility na masusunog sya, although, as I mentioned earlier, I find it hard to believe that the euros are rated at 100w max lang. But if ganun, the only solution would be, don't turn up the amp at max volume. Nang nag-audition kasi ako, di ko tiningnan ang likod e. Sorry, hehehe. I think the euros 6 are rated at around the same power rating of the DTX 9.5T or even higher. But on another hand, you could consider the euros 8, rated at 150W. Bro, please let me know if natingnan mo na ha? Thanks. ;D eto rin kasi ang gusto kong bilhin next. hehe. :D
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Thank you very much sa explanation Sir ArthurAllanJ. Actually I tried to compute the Euros 6 myself using your own formula pero I got lost in the mathematical equations (obvious bang mahina sa math! ;D) Sana nga mas mataas and power handling nya para pwede sya sa Sakura. Kung hindi naman, I would have to go for the Euros 8 or the DTX 9.5T.
Sir, do you have any idea on the the price per piece of the Euros 6 and 8? Especially the two towers? Okay kasi to kasi I like fronts to be on the bassy side.
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Thank you very much sa explanation Sir ArthurAllanJ. Actually I tried to compute the Euros 6 myself using your own formula pero I got lost in the mathematical equations (obvious bang mahina sa math! ;D) Sana nga mas mataas and power handling nya para pwede sya sa Sakura. Kung hindi naman, I would have to go for the Euros 8 or the DTX 9.5T.
Sir, do you have any idea on the the price per piece of the Euros 6 and 8? Especially the two towers? Okay kasi to kasi I like fronts to be on the bassy side.
Actually, I don't, but basing on the package price na 17,+++, I would say it's around 5K. Try calling Moses Aaron, 7354390. Nasa Bacolod kasi ako e. Please post kung magkano daw. I'm also planning to buy it e. Thanks.
Here's my formula: Power rating in Watts of the Amp divided by the rated impedance in Ohms, that would result in the power that the amp can drive per Ohm of impedance. Then multiply this value by the impedance of the speaker that the amp is going to drive. That would result in the actual power that the amp supplies the speaker based on the rated impedance of the speaker. But remember, this is just my own formula, I'm not saying this is accurate. This is just my own way of having an idea of how much power an amp drives a speaker with a different impedance. I hope Sir AVPhile or Sir Philander can give us their views about such computations.
Sample:
Sakura amp: 250W at 8 Ohms; 250W divided by 8 Ohms equals to 31.25 W/Ohm
DTX 9.5T: 6 Ohms; 31.25W/Ohm multiplied by 6 Ohms is equal to 187.5 W. This is the actual power that the amp can supply the speaker.
Since the max input power rating of the DTX 9.5 T is 140, it should be driven by an amp with at least 20% more power. 140W plus 20% is equal to 168W. Medyo close naman ang 187.5W sa 168W, di ba?
You're welcome bro, always willing to help. ;)
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Called Moses Aaron and they quoted me these prices for the Euros sets with 5% discount even if per piece lang daw ang purchase.
euros 8
Package (Front, center, rear, SW) Php 24,845.00
Front Php 10,125.00
Bookshelf Php 3,850.00
Center Php 2,230.00
Sub Php 8,640.00
euros 6
Front Php 9,180.00
Bookshelf Php 2,770.00
Center Php 2,160.00
Sub Php 4,860.00
Sir Art, malaki ba talaga difference ng tunog nito compared to the DTX especially the front? DTX 9.5T is only Php 3,800.00. Yung Euros 6 na tower almost same price sa Wharf 8.4, got mine for Php 9,000.00 after the price increase :-[.
Musta na sir bago mong sub? how does it perform compared with the others?
Thanks...
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euros 6
Front Php 9,180.00
??? ??? Hindi ba sobrang mahal yun? Considering na hindi naman sila biwirable and paper cone lang driver nya? ??? ???
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??? ??? Hindi ba sobrang mahal yun? Considering na hindi naman sila biwirable and paper cone lang driver nya? ??? ???
there are paper cone drivers that are priced at 10k++ so having a paper cone driver does not necessarily mean cheap :)
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there are paper cone drivers that are priced at 10k++ so having a paper cone driver does not necessarily mean cheap :)
That is true. But I mean, i'd rather go for 8.4 if that is really the price for Euro 6. Hold muna siguro upgrade ko :)
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Called Moses Aaron and they quoted me these prices for the Euros sets with 5% discount even if per piece lang daw ang purchase.
euros 8
Package (Front, center, rear, SW) Php 24,845.00
Front Php 10,125.00
Bookshelf Php 3,850.00
Center Php 2,230.00
Sub Php 8,640.00
euros 6
Front Php 9,180.00
Bookshelf Php 2,770.00
Center Php 2,160.00
Sub Php 4,860.00
Sir <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=Art&v=56">Art</a>, malaki ba talaga difference ng tunog nito compared to the DTX especially the front? DTX 9.5T is only Php 3,800.00. Yung Euros 6 na tower almost same price sa Wharf 8.4, got mine for Php 9,000.00 after the price increase :-[.
Musta na sir bago mong sub? how does it perform compared with the others?
Thanks...
Wow, di ko ine-expect na ganyan ang presyo nyan. Less 5%, so mga 8,725. Now, talking about difference, sa presyong ganyan para sa Euros 6 na sub, I don't think ganoon kagaling yan. The DTX 4.12 sub costs around 7,200 w/ discount, e they both have 12" drivers, I would assume na the euros 6 sub is of inferior quality if compared to th 4.12. If medyo gipit, what I'd do is buy a 4.12 sub and the entire dtx9.5 system, since the 4.12 would definitely compensate for the bass reproduction inadequacies of the 9.5 Towers. But, If I have plenty of <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=money&v=56">money</a> I'd go for the entire euros 6 system except the sub and go for a DTX 4.15 Sub instead. This would be the ideal system for me. But, I don't think the price difference is worth it. And with regards to the sub that I recently acquired, a USAudio 512MK2, I like it better than the Dynaquest DQ12, the 512 seemed to produce more bass than the DQ12. But they were very similar in performance basing on my ears. It must be because the 512 had a larger 4th order enclosure while the DQ12 had a smaller ported, front-firing system. Hope I helped. ;D
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??? ??? Hindi ba sobrang mahal yun? Considering na hindi naman sila biwirable and paper cone lang driver nya? ??? ???
Yup, paper cone nga sya, but AFAIK, it's silver coated. Daiichi has always been more into paper cones since paper has qualities that is least likely to affect sound reproduction. So the issue now is how to make paper more durable, Daiichi has several methods including application of different coatings and kevlar impregnation. This may be the reason why the euros are expensive, because of the silver coating. If you check their website, they have some info there about the technology they use. They have affiliations with several foreign companies, including DuPont, to help them with their coating technologies. That is why they also have esoteric audio sub drivers(for export) that are also quite expensive because it's kevlar impregnated. Now, the reason why the DTX 9.5Ts are very affordable maybe, because although it also has paper cones, it has a less expensive polymer coating. And one more thing, if hindi sya biwireable, then it's another plus for the 9.5 system. :)
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Grabe! Mahal pala ng Euros 6 and 8! Yung fronts pa lang is worth more than the whole DTX system. Naka-Kebao 6089 lang naman ako and Sakura 387. Generic lang naman ang hanap ko kasi pang-bedroom lang. I guess I would have to settle for the good ol' DTX 9.5T, 9.5C and 9.5B IMHO. Thanks for the info SeaCRmnd.
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Grabe! Mahal pala ng Euros 6 and 8! Yung fronts pa lang is worth more than the whole DTX system. Naka-Kebao 6089 lang naman ako and Sakura 387. Generic lang naman ang hanap ko kasi pang-bedroom lang. I guess I would have to settle for the good ol' DTX 9.5T, 9.5C and 9.5B IMHO. Thanks for the info SeaCRmnd.
I think the DTX 9.5 Speaker system is gonna do just fine with you. I think the so-called 'limits' are those that we set for ourselves. Parang tahanan din yan e, "home is where you make it". If you're contented about it, then you can be happy about it, too. For me, The DTX 9.5 is a very good system considering the price. I think hanggang Daiichi na lang talaga ako, they've made me happy with their products and services, so it's very rare that I look at other brands. I know Daiichis are not the best, but for me, they're the best that my country can offer, and the best my money can buy. BUT, that's just me. ;D ;D ;D
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Amen to that! Proudly Philippine made! It is also the best my meager finances can buy. ;D
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Makabayan ka talaga Sir Arthur ;) Happy Independence Day sa iyo....
Para hindi OT:
Can I ask you a question since you are the expert in Dai-Ichi speakers. I'm using a DTX 4.12 sub, maganda sya sa HT, problema ko is sa audio, parang masyadong malalim yung tunog walang punch. Ano magandang settings (sa crossover, volume level, etc.) para lumabas yung punch nya.
BTW, my AVR is HK 130, front is 8.3 (set sa large). Current settings, sa Crossover: 100hz, volume ng sub: +10dB sa audio, sa sub naman yung crossover naka max, volume: 12 oclock. Advise naman mga tsong... kailangan ko bang magpalit ng sub from 4.12 to 4.10.
Thanks.
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Makabayan ka talaga Sir Arthur ;) Happy Independence Day sa iyo....
Para hindi OT:
Can I ask you a question since you are the expert in Dai-Ichi <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=speakers&v=56">speakers</a>. I'm using a DTX 4.12 sub, maganda sya sa HT, problema ko is sa <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=audio&v=56">audio</a>, parang masyadong malalim yung tunog walang punch. Ano magandang settings (sa crossover, volume level, etc.) para lumabas yung punch nya.
BTW, my AVR is HK 130, front is 8.3 (set sa large). Current settings, sa Crossover: 100hz, volume ng sub: +10dB sa <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=audio&v=56">audio</a>, sa sub naman yung crossover naka max, volume: 12 oclock. Advise naman mga tsong... kailangan ko bang magpalit ng sub from 4.12 to 4.10.
Thanks.
If your receiver is set at 100Hz, then definitely, mababa nga lang na bass ang maririnig mo, even if you set the crossover of the sub to max, it will only recive signals from the amp, 100Hz and below. Music bass signals are much higher, so I guess that explains why medyo dissatisfied ka sa naririnig mo. You could set the crossover setting higher but this would create another problem, there will be a localization of bass from your sub, AFAIK, anything above 200Hz is localized, but Sir AVPhile would say anything above 100 Hz is localized. So the solution? Turn off your sub when listening to audio resources. If you don't want that, you could buy another sub and connect them both to your front speakers. If you still don't want that, then you could just keep your settings to 100Hz, and just increase the volume, and maybe increase the bass on your front speakers. That's why some purists, have a different setup for music listening and HT. I don't think changing subs would help. The reason is because most modern HT subs have a low frequency cutoff, which is not ideal for listening to Music. Changing to front speakers with better bass reproduction would certainly help. Sir AV Phile, anything you can add to that? ;D ;D
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parang masyadong malalim yung tunog walang punch. Ano magandang settings (sa crossover, volume level, etc.) para lumabas yung punch nya.
BTW, my AVR is HK 130, front is 8.3 (set sa large). Current settings, sa Crossover: 100hz, volume ng sub: +10dB sa audio, sa sub naman yung crossover naka max, volume: 12 oclock. Advise naman mga tsong... kailangan ko bang magpalit ng sub from 4.12 to 4.10.
Thanks.
I am not sure if I heard you right. The goal of a sub in a stereo set-up is precisely to make the bass "malalim." that means deep, so you can feel the bass rolling at 25hz, the lower the better. The 'Punch" is actually in the 80z to 120hz which is where the kick drum lies. So if there's no perceived "punch" you have a hole in the bass spectrum. But judging from your settings, you should even have a preponderance of 'punch." Your 8.3 is set to large, that means it is delivering down to its natural limit of 40hz. Then setting the sub crossover from the receiver to 100hz will actuallly dovetail the bass frequencies below 100 hz down. So you have the sub and the 8.3 belting out 100hz and below at the same time. Dapat overwhelming yung bass mo. Try, reversing the polarity using the polairty switch on the sub. It's possible the sub's phase may be cancelling the bass from your 8.3.
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Kita nyo na? Basta si Sir AV ang sumagot, it's like talking to somebody speaking another language. Hehe. Parang "in english please?". I am always humbled when Sir AV answers our questions. Sir AV, wag na wag kang aalis dito sa PinoyDVD ha? Hehehe. God Bless. ;D ;D
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Makabayan ka talaga Sir Arthur ;) Happy Independence Day sa iyo....
Para hindi OT:
Can I ask you a question since you are the expert in Dai-Ichi speakers. I'm using a DTX 4.12 sub, maganda sya sa HT, problema ko is sa audio, parang masyadong malalim yung tunog walang punch. Ano magandang settings (sa crossover, volume level, etc.) para lumabas yung punch nya.
BTW, my AVR is HK 130, front is 8.3 (set sa large). Current settings, sa Crossover: 100hz, volume ng sub: +10dB sa audio, sa sub naman yung crossover naka max, volume: 12 oclock. Advise naman mga tsong... kailangan ko bang magpalit ng sub from 4.12 to 4.10.
Thanks.
am using a 4.10 and i didnt like it when listening to music before, the sound was like "blag! blag!". but now after several months of use on ht, i tried it again for music, swabe na! :o it sounds more like "oomph! oomph!". now am a firm believer that subs really need a long time, months to break in. ngayon, the sub is always on when am listening to music, especially rnb, pop and rock.
give it some time bro, youll miss the low oomphs if you replace it with a 4.10. one suggestion lang, why not upgrade to an 8.4? since you need to augment 100hz frequecies, i think replacing your 8.3 with an 8.4 will be a better solution. it wont be hard to sell your 8.3 also. diamonds are fast sellers. ;D ;D
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Salamat sa tulong mga sirs, ganon na nga lang ginagawa ko I turned off the sub whenever I listen to music yun nga lang medyo bitin sa bass especially sa rock/disco music pero in easy listening swabe naman warm tumunog.
Siguro break-in ko nga muna bago lang naman kasi yung sub, mga two weeks pa lang. Baka gumanda pa, sa audio lang naman ako nagkakaproblema but in HT solved na solved ako.
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To: av_phile and arthurallaj,
Mga pre im just new here at pinoy dvd and i would like to thank you and the rest of the guys and gals here for sharing your unselfish toughts and insights especially the audio and video hobby. Its very helpful especially to the newbies like me.
Right now i just both the sakura and dtx combo and frankly speaking im very much satisfied with it (na enganyo akong bumili dahil sa nabasa ko sa thread d2). I enjoy it a lot. Before after office eh nag ma-mall muna ako bago umuwi ngayon eh nasa office pa lang ako eh atat na atat na kong umuwi para maka relax sa aking hobby and i always look up at Saturday and Sunday para mapakinggan ko yung full potential ng set up ko kasi d ko ito magawa ng weekdays baka batuhin ako ng kapit bahay namin.
Well thanks sa inyong lahat and I hope you continually stay here at pinoy dvd para lalo pa kayong makatulong sa iba pa dyan na mahilig sa ganitong hobby.
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Komodo, glad to hear you are enjoying your new toys. I, too, look forward to saturdays and sundays to enjoy listening. And it saddens me to leave and turn them off every Monday morning to go to work. ;D
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Bro Komodo,
Now, I found another thing that we and Sir AV have in common. I always look forward to weekends din. Sinasanay ko na nga baby girl ko sa HT sound, kasi medyo magugulatin pa sya ngayon. Nalulungkot nga ako secretly kung may 'gig' kami ng banda on Saturdays e. Kahit pera din yun, parang nakakalungkot pa rin. Okay lang kung trabaho on Saturdays kasi half day lang. Anyway, OT na kasi e, Sir AV, I sent you a PM. Thanks.
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am using a 4.10 and i didnt like it when listening to music before, the sound was like "blag! blag!". but now after several months of use on ht, i tried it again for music, swabe na! :o it sounds more like "oomph! oomph!". now am a firm believer that subs really need a long time, months to break in. ngayon, the sub is always on when am listening to music, especially rnb, pop and rock.
give it some time bro, youll miss the low oomphs if you replace it with a 4.10. one suggestion lang, why not upgrade to an 8.4? since you need to augment 100hz frequecies, i think replacing your 8.3 with an 8.4 will be a better solution. it wont be hard to sell your 8.3 also. diamonds are fast sellers. ;D ;D
sir nag hahanap kasi ako ng sub 50/50 music & ht ano ba dapat ang sub ko? 10" or 12"? may delay ba talaga pag 12" ang sub? dapat ba mag 10" na lang ako? magkano dtx 4.10?
tnx!
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sir nag hahanap kasi ako ng sub 50/50 music & ht ano ba dapat ang sub ko? 10" or 12"? may delay ba talaga pag 12" ang sub? dapat ba mag 10" na lang ako? magkano dtx 4.10?
tnx!
Sir, for DTX 4.10 - 6,500 and for 4.12 - 7,500 less 5% pa yan, sa Knight Audio sa Raon along Quezon Avenue lang sya.
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sir, how much for a 4.15 sub? TIA
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The last time I checked, the DTX 4.15 costs 8,200 less 5% sa Moses Aaron. Try calling them at 735-4390. ;D
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The last time I checked, the DTX 4.15 costs 8,200 less 5% sa Moses Aaron. Try calling them at 735-4390. ;D
:o kamusta naman sya sa music compared sa 4.12?
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:o kamusta naman sya sa music compared sa 4.12?
Very similar sila ng 4.12. Na-confuse nga ako when I auditioned which one was turned on and which one was turned off. Mas malakas ng konti ang bass, but not overpowering. The big difference can be heard when using it for movies. Sa laki ba naman ng 4.15, definitely what my dreams are made of.
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Very similar sila ng 4.12. Na-confuse nga ako when I auditioned which one was turned on and which one was turned off. Mas malakas ng konti ang bass, but not overpowering. The big difference can be heard when using it for movies. Sa laki ba naman ng 4.15, definitely what my dreams are made of.
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pambihira ka arthur nagsimula ako sa 10" tapos 12" tapos ngayon mukang na sales talk mo nanaman ako sa 15"
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pambihira ka arthur nagsimula ako sa 10" tapos 12" tapos ngayon mukang na sales talk mo nanaman ako sa 15"
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Di naman, bro. He he. I just don't want you to have an upgrade that soon, kasi for a little more, 15-incher na di ba? And that's not sales talk, bro, kasi di naman ako ang nagbebenta nyan e, hehehe. Ako, ganun na rin nga, e, I said, for a few hundred more why not go all the way na. Kaya I'm saving up for the DTX 4.15 talaga, kasi that's where I've set my limits, para no near-future upgrades. Anyway, bro, di ba sabi ko, just like the saying "home is where the heart is", I'll say, "happiness comes when there is content, and content is what you've decided it would be". Kung you've decided na sa 10-incher or 12-incher kuntento ka na, then good. That's why we all have to set for ourselves our own limits. God Bless. ;D
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ang ibig kong sabihin eh nadedemonyo mo na ako hehehehe
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ser pwede ko ba ma audition yang 4.12 mo?
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.... Kung you've decided na sa 10-incher or 12-incher kuntento ka na, then good. That's why we all have to set for ourselves our own limits. God Bless. ;D
i totally agree with this. if your happy and contented with a low-budget sub, i mean really HAPPY and CONTENTED, then good for you/us. ako am CONTENTED with my 4.10 since weve only a small living room and the 4.10 is sufficient for my needs. and now i can say am HAPPY when it comes to music. before i wasnt happy with it sa audio. few months of break-in lang pala ang kailangan. ive no plans of replacing it with really expensive subs like RELs coz HAPPY na ako ngayon. am no audiophile but as long as my equipment gives out slam bangin music with excellent accuracy, will stick with them til my equipment goes pfft na siguro. cheap lang kaligayahan ko, hehehe.
ive the pdvd forum to thank for all this. lahat na binili ko no regrets talaga. siguro if i went the trial and error way with no advice, malaki na siguro gastos ko ngayon. mabuhay to pdvd!!
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ang ibig kong sabihin eh nadedemonyo mo na ako hehehehe
;D
ser pwede ko ba ma audition yang 4.12 mo?
Don't mean to, bro. Hehehe. Pareho lang naman tayong nadedemonyo minsan e. Kasi nagpa-demo pa kasi ako sa daiichi showroom noon e, tuloy, I've set my mind on a 4.15 and at least 2 pairs of 9.5Bs. As of the moment kasi I only have 3 pairs of SA-3s for my surrounds e.
And I don't think we can do an audition unless you're in Bacolod, yup, I live in Bacolod. And I don't have a 4.12, I have a 512LMK2. I have 3 subs at home as of the moment, a ASW-10DR, a US512LMK2, and a DQ-12. I still plan on getting a 4.15.
TC, Bro. ;D
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i totally agree with this. if your happy and contented with a low-budget sub, i mean really HAPPY and CONTENTED, then good for you/us. ako am CONTENTED with my 4.10 since weve only a small living room and the 4.10 is sufficient for my needs. and now i can say am HAPPY when it comes to music. before i wasnt happy with it sa audio. few months of break-in lang pala ang kailangan. ive no plans of replacing it with really expensive subs like RELs coz HAPPY na ako ngayon. am no audiophile but as long as my equipment gives out slam bangin music with excellent accuracy, will stick with them til my equipment goes pfft na siguro. cheap lang kaligayahan ko, hehehe.
ive the pdvd forum to thank for all this. lahat na binili ko no regrets talaga. siguro if i went the trial and error way with no advice, malaki na siguro gastos ko ngayon. mabuhay to pdvd!!
Bar None! Who doesn't want to have the best equiptment? I think everybody does, but since the world ain't perfect, yung kaya na lang natin, di ba? Gusto ko rin magkaroon ng B & W Nautilus, but can I afford it? Not even in my dreams. I would sure like to have a Yamaha DSP-Z9, but can I have it? I don't think so. I'd like to have a Plasma Display Panel, but malabo pa na makakabili ako ng ganun, unless ni-regalo lng sa akin siguro. So, I'll just get the best that my money can buy. That's where I find content, and maybe, some happiness. God Bless. :)
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mga bro, tanong ko lang newbie kasi ako sa HT thingy eh :) i had a DTX floorstanding slim type dai ichi and what if mag upgrade ako ng fronts? i mean pwede bang gawing sorround yung dtx? tutal di pa naman ako nakakabili ng sorround :) ok lang bang sorrounds yung floor standing? thanks in advance! :D
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mga bro, tanong ko lang newbie kasi ako sa HT thingy eh :) i had a DTX floorstanding slim type dai ichi and what if mag upgrade ako ng fronts? i mean pwede bang gawing sorround yung dtx? tutal di pa naman ako nakakabili ng sorround :) ok lang bang sorrounds yung floor standing? thanks in advance! :D
pwede!
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mga bro, tanong ko lang newbie kasi ako sa HT thingy eh :) i had a DTX floorstanding slim type dai ichi and what if mag upgrade ako ng fronts? i mean pwede bang gawing sorround yung dtx? tutal di pa naman ako nakakabili ng sorround :) ok lang bang sorrounds yung floor standing? thanks in advance! :D
as long as you have enough floor space for them, why not. at least full range speakers surrounds mo. :)
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mga bro, tanong ko lang newbie kasi ako sa HT thingy eh :) i had a DTX floorstanding slim type dai ichi and what if mag upgrade ako ng fronts? i mean pwede bang gawing sorround yung dtx? tutal di pa naman ako nakakabili ng sorround :) ok lang bang sorrounds yung floor standing? thanks in advance! :D
That would be nice, it would give your surrounds that extra punch when it receives bass signals. But you would also have to consider the ideal height of surrounds which would be about 2 to 3 feet above ear level when you're sitting down. So, if you could mount them at that height, that would be great. And please don't forget timbre matching if you ever have to upgrade your fronts. But that's just me. ;)
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Mga sir, meron ba tayong pics dito ng dtx 9.5 series? Paki share naman yung links at kung di kalabisan paki specify na rin specs (size & number of drivers, cabinet dimensions, etc.). I'm inclined to buy these speakers but at least I wanna know some details para pagpunta ko Raon kung may time na I know what to look for. Thanks! :)
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Mga sir, meron ba tayong pics dito ng dtx 9.5 series? Paki share naman yung links at kung di kalabisan paki specify na rin specs (size & number of drivers, cabinet dimensions, etc.). I'm inclined to buy these speakers but at least I wanna know some details para pagpunta ko Raon kung may time na I know what to look for. Thanks! :)
http://www.daiichi.ph/
I hope it help. :)
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Thanks for the info, luma na pala yung offline pages ng dai-ichi ko. Last June pa kasi yun e. TY! :)
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I'm not so sure if nandyan pa sa bagong catalog ang DTX 9.5 Slim Series, but here's a file I have:
http://www.daiichi.ph/DTX-SLIM-LINE.gif
Or give me your e-mail ad, I can e-mail it to you.
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Here's the pic of the DTX 9.5 series:
(http://pic15.picturetrail.com/VOL568/2503904/4961811/64157011.jpg)
:)
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Here's the pic of the DTX 9.5 series:
(http://pic15.picturetrail.com/VOL568/2503904/4961811/64157011.jpg)
:)
Sir, Ok ba tunog nitong DTX 9.5 series, how much ba ito; is this matched, if paired with the sakura 387; review naman po.
and one more thing, which is better? this one paired with DTX sub 4.10 or the Euro 6 set?
Sorry i have so many question, im planning to start an HT., are these speakers good enough for about a budget of P15K paired with the sakura 387 and just upgrade to a higher end AVR in the future when budget permits?
thanx. INgat
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Sir, Ok ba tunog nitong DTX 9.5 series, how much ba ito; is this matched, if paired with the sakura 387; review naman po.
and one more thing, which is better? this one paired with DTX sub 4.10 or the Euro 6 set?
Sorry i have so many question, im planning to start an HT., are these speakers good enough for about a budget of P15K paired with the sakura 387 and just upgrade to a higher end AVR in the future when budget permits?
thanx. INgat
Bro, this is the Euros 6SV Home Theater System. I think this set is much better than DTX 9.5 series paired with DTX sub 4.10 . But I guess the price of Euros 6SV is almost 2X compared with DTX 9.5 and a DTX sub. Some gurus can give you figures about the pricing.
(http://www.daiichi.ph/imageht0020.gif)
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Gusto ko porma ng Euro pero parang mahal. Same price ata ng Diamond 8 series ???
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Sir, Ok ba tunog nitong DTX 9.5 series, how much ba ito; is this matched, if paired with the sakura 387; review naman po.
and one more thing, which is better? this one paired with DTX sub 4.10 or the Euro 6 set?
Sorry i have so many question, im planning to start an HT., are these speakers good enough for about a budget of P15K paired with the sakura 387 and just upgrade to a higher end AVR in the future when budget permits?
thanx. INgat
These are sweet sounding speakers. Not exactly detailed. But will deliver a smoorther frequency response than any satellite/sub speakers of the same cost. The floorstanders don't go deep enough so you'd need a sub crossed at around 60hz. Just don't bring the volume up as the tweeters won't stand that much current. They're low powered as I discovered when the center tweeter gave up.
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Thank you on your helpful replies guys. ;D
But one more thing, is it better to get the Euro 6 set rather than the DTX 9.5 paired with DTX4.15 sub because the price difference isn't that big?
Is this the best speaker package for its price range, please give me some recommendation on better speakers within this price range.
Thanks guys.
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Anyone who knows the price for the fronts, rear, center and sub? Thanks!
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@Klod ;D (lawen mong masalese)
Called Moses Aaron and they quoted me these prices for the Euros sets with 5% discount even if per piece lang daw ang purchase.
euros 8
Package (Front, center, rear, SW) Php 24,845.00
Front Php 10,125.00
Bookshelf Php 3,850.00
Center Php 2,230.00
Sub Php 8,640.00
euros 6
Front Php 9,180.00
Bookshelf Php 2,770.00
Center Php 2,160.00
Sub Php 4,860.00
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mga bro, tanong ko lang newbie kasi ako sa HT thingy eh :) i had a DTX floorstanding slim type dai ichi and what if mag upgrade ako ng fronts? i mean pwede bang gawing sorround yung dtx? tutal di pa naman ako nakakabili ng sorround :) ok lang bang sorrounds yung floor standing? thanks in advance! :D
pwedeng pwede actually ganito ang setup ko.
mas ok pa siya dahil minsan may mga mababa na freq na ibinabato sa surrounds.
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mga bro, tanong ko lang newbie kasi ako sa HT thingy eh :) i had a DTX floorstanding slim type dai ichi and what if mag upgrade ako ng fronts? i mean pwede bang gawing sorround yung dtx? tutal di pa naman ako nakakabili ng sorround :) ok lang bang sorrounds yung floor standing? thanks in advance! :D
pwedeng pwede, ganito ang set up ko
actually much better kasi may low freq sound din na binabato sa surrounds eh
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Here's a comment without getting too technical:
They're great for the price, maybe even the best at that price range. I just think the euros 6 are way too expensive, and I've heard they're not even bi-wireable, and rated at only 100W? And I don't think the sub for the euros 6 is better than a 4.10. You won't regret a purchase such as this. Good day. :)
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thanks, Sir Art
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based on my visit in daiichi megamall showroom, the dtx slim line series is not sure will be continued. wala na nga sila sa kanilang listening room.
ano ba ang balita ninyo dito.
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Ooh, I hope not. Eto lang kasi ang mura nila na maganda na rin e.
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prior seeing this thread m planning to buy a rongxin/ promac 5.1 speakers 4 my philips 727k dvd player. but now, m in quandary na. which is which? m considering na to buy a sakura av-377/ 387 pair with daiichi speakers, khit stereo lng muna. tapos, dagdag n lang pag magkakapera. m into audio/ video. ano ba pinakmurang setup? pls include the recent price.
ps. meron akong generic 2.1 speakers sa bhay kso ung sat 30 watts & ung sub 40 watts lng (6 ohms). pwede b sya sa sakura kung sakali?
thanks.
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based on my visit in daiichi megamall showroom, the dtx slim line series is not sure will be continued. wala na nga sila sa kanilang listening room.
ano ba ang balita ninyo dito.
Di naman siguro, I sure hope not. Sayang kasi. But I ordered a pair of 9.5 Towers just today sa Dealer friend ko, so at least meron pa sa mga dealers.
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prior seeing this thread m planning to buy a rongxin/ promac 5.1 speakers 4 my philips 727k dvd player. but now, m in quandary na. which is which? m considering na to buy a sakura av-377/ 387 pair with daiichi speakers, khit stereo lng muna. tapos, dagdag n lang pag magkakapera. m into audio/ video. ano ba pinakmurang setup? pls include the recent price.
ps. meron akong generic 2.1 speakers sa bhay kso ung sat 30 watts & ung sub 40 watts lng (6 ohms). pwede b sya sa sakura kung sakali?
thanks.
I think that's the way to go, bro. Since di rin naman tayo ganun kayaman e, if your going to invest , invest it on good but affordable equiptment na lang. Konting tyaga lang. I suggest getting a Sakura AV-387 (around 3.7K), then a pair of DTX 9.5 Towers (3,800). I don't think those 2.1 generics wouldn't really provide that much satisfaction. And if you turn them up too high, baka masunog pa yan ng Sakura. Konting tyaga lang bro. That's how I got my HTs at home, paunti-unti din.
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thank u bro 4 some unsolicited advise. at least i got an idea na. :) is there much difference ba kng wla munang sub and center(fronts and sats lang)?
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Well, there is a big difference, the dailogue would be affected, then there wouldn't be much of a punch sa bass. but that's just okay, set mo lang muna sa phantom mode ang center, tapos taasan mo muna ang bass level ng sakura. Although you could use those generic sats muna as your center and you could also use your generic sub. Anyway, no matter how long the journey, dadating at dadating ka din as long as you keep going, di ba? TC. ;)
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oks. many thanks. :)
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I think that's the way to go, bro. Since di rin naman tayo ganun kayaman e, if your going to invest , invest it on good but affordable equiptment na lang. Konting tyaga lang. I suggest getting a Sakura AV-387 (around 3.7K), then a pair of DTX 9.5 Towers (3,800). I don't think those 2.1 generics wouldn't really provide that much satisfaction. And if you turn them up too high, baka masunog pa yan ng Sakura. Konting tyaga lang bro. That's how I got my HTs at home, paunti-unti din.
sir magkano ba kung bookshelves lng for fronts? malaki ba difference nila ng dtx 9.5T?
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2,200 bro, pwede rin naman yan for fronts e. Only loss mo lang naman is that the towers can go as low as 65Hz, while the bookshelfs(bookshelves) can only go down to 80Hz, but your sub can take care of that. ;D
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2,200 bro, pwede rin naman yan for fronts e. Only loss mo lang naman is that the towers can go as low as 65Hz, while the bookshelfs(bookshelves) can only go down to 80Hz, but your sub can take care of that. ;D
bro pra saan naman ung Hz & what's d advantage of having a lower Hz?.
thanks. :)
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bro pra saan naman ung Hz & what's d advantage of having a lower Hz?.
thanks. :)
Hz- the unit of frequency which is the number of cycles/samples per given time
In speaker, we measure the response of the speaker in Hz (or frequency).
Average human being can hear from 20Hz up to 20Khz frequency range.
In layman's term, the advantage of lower frequency response is you can hear sound from speaker in full range and you can hear the low frequency effects that are encoded specially in movies. Say if the speaker has frequency range of 60Hz to 20Khz, anything below 60Hz cannot be reproduced by the said speaker thus you are loosing signal and sound information.
Lower frequencies contains bass, punch, mid bass and deep bass. Higher frequencies contains higher pitch/treble.
HTH.
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galing ;D. infos r everywhere talaga d2 sa pinoydvd. sana may magbentang murang dtx 9.5t :).
thanks mga gurus.
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Thanks, Sir Phil, for taking care of that on my behalf. ;D
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Guys,
meron ba sa makati na shop na nagbebenta ng good quality bnew na DTX 4.10 or 4.12? kasi sa knight audio ko balak bumili but malayo siya eh. kung meron sa makati, puwede ba itest? how much? kasi gagamitin ko sa sub out ng philips 642k ko eh. wala pa kaming receiver/ampli.
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Guys,
meron ba sa makati na shop na nagbebenta ng good quality bnew na DTX 4.10 or 4.12? kasi sa knight audio ko balak bumili but malayo siya eh. kung meron sa makati, puwede ba itest? how much? kasi gagamitin ko sa sub out ng philips 642k ko eh. wala pa kaming receiver/ampli.
Pre check out Watt hifi look for Carlos/Elmo shop is located at Makati Cinema Square near the Bingo area..
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thanks sir, will contact that shop tom
tska magnetically shielded ba yung DTX and yung US Audio? ok lang malapit sa tv gamitin?
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I don't think so, but I don't think it's necessary. At viewing height ng tv? Kahit na nasa ilalim yung sub mo, di naman siguro maaapektuhan yung TV mo.
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the length from tv to the where i want to plave the sub is just 2 feet away. the tv is in the tv rack while the sub is somehow underneath it.
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You know, bro marky, I'm not so worried about the effect of the magnetic field on the TV right now, I'm worried about the vibrations produced by the sub on the rack that might cause damage on your TV, and other equiptment on the rack. That's what's nice about a subwoofer, since it produces non-diectional frequencies (below 100Hz), you can place it practically anywhere in the room. I strongly suggest you place your sub somewhere else. Besides, these pups move a lot of air, so give it room to breathe. Just me, though. ;)
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just bought the US Audio 512 MKII today. its a very heavy sub. got it from jenny ok knight audio. she's very pretty pala. ;D but hindi siya gumagana pagdating dito coz wala kaming ampli. i just connected it sa sub out ng dvd player ko(philips 642k). damn... i thought it would work that way... ang mahal pa naman ng ampli./receiver.. :P
ok na kaya yung sakura? may dts and dd 5.1 decoder naman yung player ko eh.
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yup dapat medyo malayo ang sub sa TV, dati nga nasa halos nasa side ko na ang sub noong nag speaker placement ako.
still my DTX4.10 rocks!!! mas lalo siguro yung 12 and 15 inchers ninyo mga dudes.
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just bought the US Audio 512 MKII today. its a very heavy sub. got it from jenny ok knight audio. she's very pretty pala. ;D but hindi siya gumagana pagdating dito coz wala kaming ampli. i just connected it sa sub out ng dvd player ko(philips 642k). d**n... i thought it would work that way... ang mahal pa naman ng ampli./receiver.. :P
ok na kaya yung sakura? may dts and dd 5.1 decoder naman yung player ko eh.
Baka di mo na switch 'on' ang sub from your DVD player, check mo sa audio set-up. It should work. Kung wala pa rin, you can use the line out of the dvd player, pwede rin yun since may filter naman ang 512. Then since may line out din yung 512, dyan mo na lang i-connect yung tv audio input. This is bound to be the solution kung wala talagang signal sa sub out ng dvd player mo. If you're out to buy an inexpensive amp, Sakura may lead to the right path. I suggest the AV-387. It costs less than 3.7K. HIH. ;)
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Baka di mo na switch 'on' ang sub from your DVD player, check mo sa audio set-up. It should work. Kung wala pa rin, you can use the line out of the dvd player, pwede rin yun since may filter naman ang 512. Then since may line out din yung 512, dyan mo na lang i-connect yung tv audio input. This is bound to be the solution kung wala talagang signal sa sub out ng dvd player mo. If you're out to buy an inexpensive amp, Sakura may lead to the right path. I suggest the AV-387. It costs less than 3.7K. HIH. ;)
walang setting sa player ko(philips 642k) na 'sub on'. ewan ko nga ba kung bakit parang kulang ata sa tuning controls itong player ko. napakonti ng choices sa menu setup niya. sa audio ito lang ang meron: downmix, reverberation, center delay, rear dealy, DRC, Audio output(48 or 94khz), PCM(All or digital ata yun). basta walang 'sub on'.
ummm... di ko magets yung line out method na sinasabi mo sir. although may line out nga yung 512 ko. but eto yung pagkakaintindi ko: i'll connect the L/R of my component to the line out of the 512? then yung sub out ng player ko i'll plug it sa line in ng 512? is that it?
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napagana ko na guys yung sub ko. hehe. i used line in and line out.
my front speakers range is from 45hz-20khz. ano dapat ang setting ng crossover ko? and yung position ng sub ko is below the front right speaker. ano dapat ang setting ng phase?
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anyone willing to help me?
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got it from jenny ok knight audio. she's very pretty pala. ;D
oooy! sa phone ko lang nakakausap si jenny siguro with the info its best kung makita ko na siya -- ;D
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contact info for knight audio? thanks.
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Sorry for the late reply ha? But you got it bro marky. Your sub setting should always be below 100Hz, but above the lowest frequency response of all your other speakers. The phase setting would depend on your positioning. It must also sync with the video. Pakinggan mo na lang, but usually the on phase is appropriate. ;)
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oooy! sa phone ko lang nakakausap si jenny siguro with the info its best kung makita ko na siya -- ;D
haha. pretty si ms jenny talaga. actually i have a c***h on her. but hanggang dun na lang coz may hubby na siya.
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Sorry for the late reply ha? But you got it bro marky. Your sub setting should always be below 100Hz, but above the lowest frequency response of all your other speakers. The phase setting would depend on your positioning. It must also sync with the video. Pakinggan mo na lang, but usually the on phase is appropriate. ;)
sir, yung on phase wala sa sub ko nun. 0 degress to 180 degrees ang knob niya. my sub is placed below directly below my front right speakers. ano po dapat ang phase ko?
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haha. pretty si ms jenny talaga. actually i have a c***h on her. but hanggang dun na lang coz may hubby na siya.
hehehe nadagdagan na naman ng tagahanga si Jenny ;D.
ok sa Knight Audio, sa kanila ko binili yung DTX9.5T ko, umorder din ako ng AV-377 remote.
umabot ng 3-4 weeks tapos nung dumating na ang remote nag-text kaagad si Jenny ;)
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contact info of knight audio please. thanks.
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aba. may DTX line pala ang knight audio. hmmm..... ;)
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sir, yung on phase wala sa sub ko nun. 0 degress to 180 degrees ang knob niya. my sub is placed below directly below my front right speakers. ano po dapat ang phase ko?
Oh yeah, 0 degrees is the equivalent of ON phase, and yung 180 degrees, Off phase. Variable phase control nga pala yan.
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contact info of knight audio please. thanks.
bro,
736-3881
736-3882
;D
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Punta kaya ako sa Knight Audio pag pumunta ako ng Manila this December. He he he. >:D
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Punta kaya ako sa Knight Audio pag pumunta ako ng Manila this December. He he he. >:D
haha. ok dun! ganda ng view. ;D
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anybody tried auditioning the dai-ichi bp-100 subwoofer? It's the latest model of dai-ichi which i saw at their megamall showroom. IMHO bass is more soft compared to those of dtx and us audio. There is more quality of sound.
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Guys,
dadating na yung Kenwood VR-806s that i bought from the internet this November. I asked them to deliver it to my relative in Los Angeles and my relative will just send it via ship together with his packages for his family.
My question is compatible kaya ang Euros6 sa ampli na ito?
regards,
dvh
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who has info on where i could get dtx bookshelf speakers? mukhang nagkakaubusan na sa raon ng dtx bookshelf speakers...:(
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who has info on where i could get dtx bookshelf speakers? mukhang nagkakaubusan na sa raon ng dtx bookshelf speakers...:(
Try calling Mike at Moses Aaron and ask kung meron pa sila. 7354390. :)
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mga bro suggestions naman. i got my av-387 and dtx 9.5b last sat (oct 18) sa raon. i tried the fm tuner & was quite impressed. but when i tried it with my newly bought cd, it failed my expectations. prang basag at di detailed ung tunog. prang mas maganda pa pag nsa tuner mode. samantalang nung tinest ung cd sa raon, napakaganda ng 2nog. so, definitely hindi sa cd ang problem. btw, im using philips 727k dvd player. i tried all connections, from l/r and fl/fl of my dvd player to aux, dvd & ac-3 of the av-387 pro ganun pa rin. is this the case of the so called breaking-in period? pro bat ganun, medyo ok naman sa tuner mode? syanga pala i have set na rin the fronts to high and off the center, sr and sub to my dvd player since fronts pa lang meron ako.
pls enlighten me. d ako makapagyabang sa wife ko :'(
thanks.
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Try increasing the bass on your amp. The problem might be with your cd player, I had the same experience with my Samsung 3 disc changer dati, the bass seemed mahina sa kanya, but nung ibang cd player ginamit ko mas malakas ang bass. And it would be best to set your amp at stereo mode since you only have two front speakers pa lang. Also try biwiring those bookshelves. :) HIH.
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actually im using philips 727k wc is maganda naman ang audio DAC. yup i tried to play with the bass, s-bass & treble. malakas na rin ang bass khit wala pa akong sw, the problem is prang sabog ung bass. pro pag naka tuner naman ako, ok naman sya. :(
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Heartbreak
pre try mo gamit ng cd player, im using the same DVD player and pansin ko nga yun, some music are basag and others hindi nmn, i asked this before dun sa Newbie Corner and punk_kid suggested na gumagamit daw ako ng cd player, so i bought a cd player from a fellow member and OK na sya.
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Heartbreak
pre try mo gamit ng cd player, im using the same DVD player and pansin ko nga yun, some song are basag and others hindi nmn, i asked this before dun Newbie Corner and punk_kid suggested na gumagamit daw ako ng cd player, so i bought a cd player from a fellow member and OK na sya.
hu hu hu :'( another gastos? anyway, thanks 4 d suggestion :)
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hehehe ganun talaga kesa naman sa sumama ang loob mo everytime na makikinig ka ng music sa dvd mo. >:D
try mo manghiram muna ng player sa kakilala mo bgo ka bili, para mai-justify mo kay kumander... :)
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try ko muna cgurong mag-upgrade ng speaker cables. malay mo it'll make wonder d ba? :)
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baka hindi umubra sir eh ???, kasi mukhang ung source talaga ang me problem, kasi di ba sabi mo ok naman sa tuner? kasi dati suspect ko rin sa setup ko ung spkr cable (generic-12 gauge) and interconnect (ung free n ksama s DVD player), pero nung gumamit ako ng cd player without replacing any cable&interconnect, naging okey talaga ung tunog malayung-malayo dun sa DVD player na basag ang output. pero it's ur decsion p rin, try mo p rin mag-experiment...
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pls enlighten me. d ako makapagyabang sa wife ko :'(
:-\ OO nga bro, siguro ang hirap mong e-convince si esmi na bumili katakot-takot na sales talk ang ginawa mo, parang feeling mo ikaw na ang me ari ng bibilhin mo, pagkatapos pag nabili mo na di ka contento ang sakit talaga-- :'(
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familiar ba kayo sa itsura at performance ng ganitong klase ng sub na ang model no. ay ASWHE10?
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familiar ba kayo sa itsura at performance ng ganitong klase ng sub na ang model no. ay ASWHE10?
Yup, I've seen this before. This is the remote controlled version of the ASW 10DR that I have at home. It's slightly bigger, but I heard it was discontinued because Daiichi wasn't able to perfect the remote control system and the remote system was easily broken. Why, bro? The specs are very similar to the DR version, 5-300Hz freq. response.
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Bro, this is the Euros 6SV Home Theater System. I think this set is much better than DTX 9.5 series paired with DTX sub 4.10 . But I guess the price of Euros 6SV is almost 2X compared with DTX 9.5 and a DTX sub. Some gurus can give you figures about the pricing.
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sirs, i went to megamall last night to have my CHT-613 repaired, bigla nawalan ng tunog yun 2 woofers. I was able to audition the Euros series. The above picture from their website were for the EFD series pala as confirmed by the showroom people there. The Euros are 3-way but with 2 woofers only and a tweeter. Also, bumagsak na presyo ng Euros series, sayang lang nung Oct 15-17 Megamall sale, nag-sale din pala sila. The Euros 8 were selling for Php 5060.00 only :o and according to the person I've talked to, meron pa daw additional 7% discount during that period.
The Euros 8 i think wont fit in your trunks even siguro sa loob ng kotse, sobraong laki. You might need a pickup or truck to bring them home. I'm planning to buy a pair of Euros 8 Tower in due time. Anlayo ng tunog nya compared to the Euros 6 Tower and considering konti lang difference or halos same lang yung price nya but that's just me.
These are the showroom prices, mas mura pa siguro dito kung sa dealers ka bibili like Knight or Moses Aaron.
Euros 6
Tower : 5390.00
Bookshelf : 2200.00
Center : 1530.00
Sub : 4070.00
Euros 8
Tower : 5560.00
Bookshelf : 2860.00
Center : 1650.00
Sub : 6420.00
HTH
;D
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Yup, I've seen this before. This is the remote controlled version of the ASW 10DR that I have at home. It's slightly bigger, but I heard it was discontinued because Daiichi wasn't able to perfect the remote control system and the remote system was easily broken. Why, bro? The specs are very similar to the DR version, 5-300Hz freq. response.
Someone is selling me this kind of sub for Php2,500. What do you think, is it a steal?
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I also checked the two last friday nung sale pa. Iba tunog ng euros 8 sa euros 6 kaya lang parang masyadong boomy yung euros 8 di pa ata bi-wirable yung dalawa. Kung sino sa mga gurus nating nakapagtest nito eh please share your insights kasi last friday type ko din bilhin yung euros 8 kaya lang dream ko puro warfs ang speakers ko pero pag maganda reviews baka bilhin ko nalang to mura pa.
sirs, i went to megamall last night to have my CHT-613 repaired, bigla nawalan ng tunog yun 2 woofers. I was able to audition the Euros series. The above picture from their website were for the EFD series pala as confirmed by the showroom people there. The Euros are 3-way but with 2 woofers only and a tweeter. Also, bumagsak na presyo ng Euros series, sayang lang nung Oct 15-17 Megamall sale, nag-sale din pala sila. The Euros 8 were selling for Php 5060.00 only :o and according to the person I've talked to, meron pa daw additional 7% discount during that period.
The Euros 8 i think wont fit in your trunks even siguro sa loob ng kotse, sobraong laki. You might need a pickup or truck to bring them home. I'm planning to buy a pair of Euros 8 Tower in due time. Anlayo ng tunog nya compared to the Euros 6 Tower and considering konti lang difference or halos same lang yung price nya but that's just me.
These are the showroom prices, mas mura pa siguro dito kung sa dealers ka bibili like Knight or Moses Aaron.
Euros 6
Tower : 5390.00
Bookshelf : 2200.00
Center : 1530.00
Sub : 4070.00
Euros 8
Tower : 5560.00
Bookshelf : 2860.00
Center : 1650.00
Sub : 6420.00
HTH
;D
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Someone is selling me this kind of sub for Php2,500. What do you think, is it a steal?
Here's my answer: Kung ayaw mo, pakisabi sa nagbebenta sa yo, sa akin nya na lang ibenta. Gets? ;D ;D ;D
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Kakainis talaga kayong lahat!!!!! >:( >:( >:( Kung kelan settled na ako sa 9.5 ko e, pinaalam nyo naman sa akin na bumaba na ang presyo ng Euros. Ngayon, nag-iisip na naman akong bumili. Kakainis talaga. AAArrrrgggh!!!! hehehe. ;D ;D ;D
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Kakainis talaga kayong lahat!!!!! >:( >:( >:( Kung kelan settled na ako sa 9.5 ko e, pinaalam nyo naman sa akin na bumaba na ang presyo ng Euros. Ngayon, nag-iisip na naman akong bumili. Kakainis talaga. AAArrrrgggh!!!! hehehe. ;D ;D ;D
Na-audition mo na ba to? Comments naman.
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I've heard them, the clarity and detail is similar sa 9.5, but there is definitely better bass response which is the weakness of the 9.5 towers. But I didn't listen to it intensively since I shyed away because of the price that time. ;D Pag punta ko uli ng Manila this december, kikilatisin ko sya uli kasi mura na sya. Hehehe. ;D
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K. Lakas ng bass pero parang nakakasakit ng ulo. Audition ko ulit. Dito lang ako shang mall tabi nya.
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Bro,
A friend once said, it is much easier to tame too much bass than to find ways to increase it. My point? Mas madaling hanapan ng solution kung sobra ang bass kesa kung kulang. This is the case with the DTX 9.5 towers, bitin ang bass ang you're definitely gonna need a sub, but with the euros, the bass is very sufficient without compromising detail and clarity, you can even enjoy good bass with it even without a sub. Too much? Tone down that bass setting on your amp. Too little? Even at max bass setting? What do you do? Mas mahirap ano? Hehe... Just me, wanting to help. ;D ;D
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Checked the euros 8, 6 and pl-100 floorstanders. Definitely out yung euros 6 pero btween euros 8 and pl-100 ang lakas talaga ng euros 8 pero maganda din ang bass ng pl-100 at parang mas detailed pa. Kapag wala akong makuhang wharfs 8.3 malamang daichi nalang. Sa euros 8 miski wala pa akong subs yanig ang bahay pero parang mas type ko pl-100.
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Bro Chits,
Ba't ayaw mo nung Euros 6, ano ba ayaw mo dun? Bro, magkano na ba ngayon ang presyo ng mga sinabi mong models? Nagtanong kasi ako sa Moses, mahal pa rin sila e. Sana, ang prices ni na-quote ni bro dennis, ganun pa rin hanggang makabili ako. Anywayz, thanks.
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i called megamall today and they confirmed na bumaba ang prices ng euros 6 and 8!
Euros 6
Tower : 5390.00
Bookshelf : 2200.00
Center : 1530.00
Sub : 4070.00
Euros 8
Tower : 5560.00
Bookshelf : 2860.00
Center : 1650.00
Sub : 6420.00
balak ko bumili sa december pa ng euros8 kasi sa december pa dadating ang Kenwood 6.1 AVR ko from US!
sana na lang mas bumaba pa ang price pag dating ng december!
regards,
dvh
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Nagtanong ako kahapon sa Moses Aaron, 9K++ ang Euros 6, at 10K++ ang Euros 8, bakit kaya ganun? December na rin siguro ako bibili. Thanks bro DVH. ;D
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Nagtanong ako kahapon sa Moses Aaron, 9K++ ang Euros 6, at 10K++ ang Euros 8, bakit kaya ganun? December na rin siguro ako bibili. Thanks bro DVH. ;D
Sir,
Buong set yung price nun (5.1 speakers). Tanong mo yung price ng floorstanders lang.
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di raw e, pares lang daw talaga ng towers. Anywayz, pag sa december, available pa sya at that price, then, bibili ako, wherever sya mura. Thanks guys. ;D
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di raw e, pares lang daw talaga ng towers. Anywayz, pag sa december, available pa sya at that price, then, bibili ako, wherever sya mura. Thanks guys. ;D
Ganun ba? Punta pa naman ako sa raon kasi mas mura dun. Price sa mega mall 5,600
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i agree...kasi the other day tumawag ako sa knight audio...yung pares ng tower euros6 e nasa 9K+ na!!
bat kaya mas mahal ngayon sa raon as compared sa megamall e dapat nga mas mura sile e....sa megamall na lang tayong lahat bumili!
dvh
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i agree...kasi the other day tumawag ako sa knight audio...yung pares ng tower euros6 e nasa 9K+ na!!
bat kaya mas mahal ngayon sa raon as compared sa megamall e dapat nga mas mura sile e....sa megamall na lang tayong lahat bumili!
dvh
Kung ganun pala presyo nun sa iba eh wharfs nalang bibilhin ko. Punta na kayo megamall.
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Bro Chits,
Remember the sensitivity issue..... 86db for the Wharfes, 90db for the DTX 9.5Towers...... ;D ;D Twice as much power to drive.......
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Bro Chits,
Remember the sensitivity issue..... 86db for the Wharfes, 90db for the DTX 9.5Towers...... ;D ;D Twice as much power to drive.......
k lang. really don't need that much power for my small room. pero still thinking about euros8 or pl-100.
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sirs, di pa daw updated prices nung mga shops sa raon like Knight and Moses but according to the Raon Dai-Ichi showroom, they were already informed/aware about the new prices. But even the Raon Dai-ichi doesn't have the prices for the euros and sumusunod lang daw sila sa prices na ibinibigay sa megamall. When I went there this morning may nagtatanong nga ng prices ng euros, fortunately i brought the prices given to me by the megamall people. Wait lang siguro tayo for the dealers to sell them at the lowered prices.
thanks.
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isa pang tanong don e bat kaya bigla ang pagbaba ng price ng euros6 and 8? maglalabas kaya sila ng new models? ano yon pangtapat nila sa wharf 9.6? hehehe.
sana sa dec mas bumaba pa prices ng euros8 para mabili ko na!
dvh
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may naka audition na ba ng sub ng euros9? ok ba tunog as compared sa dtx?
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I think na force sila na magpababa ng presyo since di gaanong tinangkilik ng masa, sa price difference ba naman if compared with the DTX 9.5, di ba? But I'm pretty sure these are good speakers and maybe even better than the 9.5s. The DTX 9.5 has just had too much success for it's price kaya di gaanong sumikat ang euros. But at the present prices? I'm certain, dudumugin na naman ito. The only thing I don't like about the euros? Di biwireable.
Bro dvh,
I'd still go for the DTX 4 series, since the euros subs are bandpass subs, so less accurate sya but powerful. Just me. ;D
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ganun ??? kakabili ko lang ng dtx 9.5b tapos ska nagmura euros 8. it's unfair!!! :-[ wla b clang upgrade promo? :)
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ganun ??? kakabili ko lang ng dtx 9.5b tapos ska nagmura euros 8. it's unfair!!! :-[ wla b clang upgrade promo? :)
Heheh..ganyan talaga ang buhay...ako nga nung bumili diamond 8.3...1 week after lumabas na yung 9 series.. :'(.. opppsss...OT na... ;D
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ganun ??? kakabili ko lang ng dtx 9.5b tapos ska nagmura euros 8. it's unfair!!! :-[ wla b clang upgrade promo? :)
Don't worry bro, as I've seen sa specs, the 9.5Bs would perform better than the euros 8 bookshelf, what I like about the euros are the towers and the center. Just me. ;D
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mga bros, ano na nga bang specs ng Euros 8? ::) thnks
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It's available on their website: www.daiichi.ph, but I'm not so sure if everything's accurate, kasi the euros 6 has a freq. response of 20Hz~20KHz, which is better than the euros 8? Just wondering. ;D
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may naka audition na ba ng euros6 and euros8 para makapagbigay ng comparison between the two models? sabi ng saleslady na nakausap ko high-end speakers nila for HT is euros8 and mas maganda ang performance as compared sa euros6. pls more input so i can set my mind on what to buy this coming dec.
regards,
dvh
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bro Arthur, thanks for the daiichi site-- ;D bakit naman puro 6ohms lang ang impedance ng mga euros, di compatible sa AVR ko-- >:( . Good that the PL is 8 ohms...However is the PL series comparable with the Euros 8? thnks
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may naka audition na ba ng euros6 and euros8 para makapagbigay ng comparison between the two models? sabi ng saleslady na nakausap ko high-end speakers nila for HT is euros8 and mas maganda ang performance as compared sa euros6. pls more input so i can set my mind on what to buy this coming dec.
regards,
dvh
At a price difference of about 300 pesos? I think it would be best to buy the euros 8. Everybody who has auditioned both seem to prefer the 8. That's why it makes me wonder about the specs of both the 6 and the 8 on the site? Anybody wanna call daiichi and confirm the specs? Thanks, nasa bacolod kasi ako e. He he. ;)
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bro Arthur, thanks for the daiichi site-- ;D bakit naman puro 6ohms lang ang impedance ng mga euros, di compatible sa AVR ko-- >:( . Good that the PL is 8 ohms...However is the PL series comparable with the Euros 8? thnks
I think the PLs are very comparable with the euros, since they seem to have similar drivers, except that, to my knowledge, the PLs are 2-way while the euros are 3-way. I don't think there's much to worry regarding the 6 ohm rating if your amp is rated at 8 ohms, unless it was 4 ohms or worse, if your amp has a 16 ohm rating. A lot of pinoyDVDers here have the Sakura-DTX combo, and they didn't seem to have any problem with that. The Sakura is rated at 8 ohms and the DTXs are rated at 6 ohms. ;)
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I think the PLs are very comparable with the euros, since they seem to have similar drivers, except that, to my knowledge, the PLs are 2-way while the euros are 3-way. I don't think there's much to worry regarding the 6 ohm rating if your amp is rated at 8 ohms, unless it was 4 ohms or worse, if your amp has a 16 ohm rating. A lot of pinoyDVDers here have the Sakura-DTX combo, and they didn't seem to have any problem with that. The Sakura is rated at 8 ohms and the DTXs are rated at 6 ohms. ;)
Maybe bro arthur you're right-- :) ang problema kasi wala man lang indication if this is NOMINAL impedance or what, other speaker brands like the wharfs indicate this i supposed...but anyway taking the case of dtx and sakura, i think this is not a big issue-- ;D
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pano yan...
ang kenwood vr806-s 8-16 ohmms impedance. pde kaya ang euros8 dito e 6 ohms ang euros?
baka mapurnada pa ang plano ko sa euros8 sa dec ah.
any thoughts on the ohms impedance issue ng avr ko at euros8?
baka mapunta ko sa wharfs nyan...
regards,
dvh
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pano yan...
ang kenwood vr806-s 8-16 ohmms impedance. pde kaya ang euros8 dito e 6 ohms ang euros?
baka mapurnada pa ang plano ko sa euros8 sa dec ah.
any thoughts on the ohms impedance issue ng avr ko at euros8?
baka mapunta ko sa wharfs nyan...
regards,
dvh
err...wharfe 8,9 series have a 6 ohm nominal impedance... ;) but can be used to any 8 Ohm amplifier....mukhang same logic for the euro's but just the same better to audition (kung pwede).. ;)
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wharfes spkrs kasi indicate it that though their speakers are in 6 ohms, it is compatible with 8 ohms amps, while these Euros do not-- ::)
the way i understand, yes our 8-16 amps can drive them but once we go louder, and of course we do this once in a while depending on our mood, our amp gets hotter than when it is driving an 8 ohms load.
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Dai-ichi ASWHE10 Active Subwoofer
Description : Black, 150 watts rms, bandpass type subwoofer with variable phase control and remote control.
anyone who have this sub? more info pls.
thanks.
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pano yan...
ang kenwood vr806-s 8-16 ohmms impedance. pde kaya ang euros8 dito e 6 ohms ang euros?
baka mapurnada pa ang plano ko sa euros8 sa dec ah.
any thoughts on the ohms impedance issue ng avr ko at euros8?
baka mapunta ko sa wharfs nyan...
regards,
dvh
Wharfe Diamonds are also 6-ohm speakers.
I'd strongly suggest you limit your choice to 8-ohm speakers. It's one thing for a receiver or amp to recommend 8-ohm speakers. Many can drive 6-ohm loads without a problem. It's entirely another if it explicitly recommends 8-16 ohms speakers. I would interpret that to mean it can go higher but not lower than 8. So easy to fry an egg on top of it if you did. ;D
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Dai-ichi ASWHE10 Active Subwoofer
Description : Black, 150 watts rms, bandpass type subwoofer with variable phase control and remote control.
anyone who have this sub? more info pls.
thanks.
I have the asw10dr, very similar sila, 5Hz~200Hz, dual 10 inch woofers arranged in an isobaric configuration, very powerful and flexible as can be used for both HT and Music. Difference is the HE has a remote and a slightly larger enclosure.
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sir art anong ibig sabihin ng bandpass type & ano ung ibang type? best buy na b sya 4 P2500?
thanks.
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sir art anong ibig sabihin ng bandpass type & ano ung ibang type? best buy na b sya 4 P2500?
thanks.
That's a good price already, bro. Although, as I always suggest, tawaran mo pa. This is one of the very early powered subs from Daiichi. Great performance at its price. I sold one of my 10DRs to a friend and he just loves it. It's a very good sub for entry level set ups. Very versatile because of the wide frequency response range. Di ka naman magsisisi. Bandpass enclosures are those that have the driver inside the enclosure itself, there's a 4th order bandpass and a 6th order bandpass, this sub is a 4th order sub, having the one side of the driver sealed and the other ported. Isobaric, meaning the drivers are arranged facing each other and working in unison at opposite phases, "push-pull type" in layman's terms. 6th orders have both sides of the enclosure ported, like the Bose bass modules. The disadvantage of band pass enclosures are they tend to have inaccurate bass response, as the name implies, it allows only a certain "band" to "pass" through it, and muffles others, it tends to resonate a limited frequency range. The driver may be reproducing a certain frequency but the enclosure design translates it to the enclosure's resonant frequency. But this results to a very, very powerful sound. There are front firing types, some are sealed, some are ported. Front firing types are those that have the driver's front exposed to the listening environment. This seems to produce more accurate bass since the frequency reproduced by the driver itself is heard in the listening environment. Sealed types have a very tight sounding bass since the enclosure aids in the driver's cone movement, I think this is called acoustic suspension. These types have a very high power handling capacity, Ported types are more powerful sound than sealed types, on the assumption that they are driven by the same power, since the driver has more freedom to move and therefore results in a more powerful sound. But it's easy to blow drivers with this type of enclosure. This is just my little understanding of things, I'm not saying it's absolute. I think it would also be great if you did a little research on the web about speaker enclosures. Just trying to help, sorry kung medyo mahaba. Ingat.
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sir arthurallanj question lang po...i have yamaha rxv450 with polk audio R series as my 5 spkers setup...adding to my speaker B, bumili ako ng daichi euros 6 which is 100w and rated 6ohms..."hindi ba mahirapan yung rxv450 sa euros6 6ohms?...my amps rated connect to 8ohms.
tnx sir
fandvd
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thanks sir art. u'r simply d best!
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sir arthurallanj question lang po...i have yamaha rxv450 with polk audio R series as my 5 spkers setup...adding to my speaker B, bumili ako ng daichi euros 6 which is 100w and rated 6ohms..."hindi ba mahirapan yung rxv450 sa euros6 6ohms?...my amps rated connect to 8ohms.
tnx sir
fandvd
Di ba ang 450 may impedance switch din? Try to check the back panel kung meron nga. If it does, then swtch it to the side that says speaker a or b, 4 ohms max, speaker a + b, 8 ohms max. I don't think mahihirapan sya since di naman gaano kalaki ang impedance difference e. Delikado lang is if both speakers connected at a and b are 4 ohms each. And besides, Yamaha amps have a circuit protection system.
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Di ba ang 450 may impedance switch din? Try to check the back panel kung meron nga. If it does, then swtch it to the side that says speaker a or b, 4 ohms max, speaker a + b, 8 ohms max. I don't think mahihirapan sya since di naman gaano kalaki ang impedance difference e. Delikado lang is if both speakers connected at a and b are 4 ohms each. And besides, Yamaha amps have a circuit protection system.
naka swith to 8ohms yung rxv450 since im using polk audio with a 8ohms impedance...anyway sir salamat na marami...btw under breakin yung euros6 ko...ok naman sya...late ko na nabasa yung mga reviews ng euros eh...hope hindi ako nagkamali sa euros 6.
tnx
fandvd
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bro fandvd, please post naman your review from time to time on your new euros -- ;D kasi me balak din ako, ang issue ko lang talaga dito ay yung 8-16 impedance ng receiver ko as against the 6 ohms of the euros... tnx
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naka swith to 8ohms yung rxv450 since im using polk audio with a 8ohms impedance...anyway sir salamat na marami...btw under breakin yung euros6 ko...ok naman sya...late ko na nabasa yung mga reviews ng euros eh...hope hindi ako nagkamali sa euros 6.
tnx
fandvd
Magkano bili mo sa Euros 6 mo bro? I'm hoping na sana pag-punta ko ng Manila this December, around 5 thousand pa rin sya, and if 300 lang ang difference ng 6 and 8, I'm going for the 8. Thanks.
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fandvd,
sana makapost ka na ng review mo sa euros6 kasi nga im planning to get one. just a question, bat di euros8 ang kinuha mo e konti lang naman ang difference nila ngayon with regards sa price.
ang issue ko talaga sa euros8 is yung ganda ng tunog and yung compatibility sa 8-16 ohms ng receiver since 6 ohms ang sa euros8.
regards,
dvh
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how much is the yamaha rx-v450 nowadays? where can i get it at the cheapest? or ok lang ba yung rx-v 350? any reviews on the yamaha rx-v350? kindly post na lang. thanks.
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bro fandvd, please post naman your review from time to time on your new euros -- ;D kasi me balak din ako, ang issue ko lang talaga dito ay yung 8-16 impedance ng receiver ko as against the 6 ohms of the euros... tnx
sir jerix as of now under break-in yung euros6 ko...so far na meet nya naman yung sounds na gusto ko which is the trebles, mids & bass, balance naman sila (sakin opinion ito sir) pero hindi pa namn ako ganon katalas ang tenga like our co-pnydvd member na audiophiler...well with the 6ohms spker for the 8ohms amp?...wala pa naman akong nakikitang prob :) hopefully makaya ng amps ko...althought hindi naman ako ganon kalakas mag patugtog...till my next reviews ;D
Magkano bili mo sa Euros 6 mo bro? I'm hoping na sana pag-punta ko ng Manila this December, around 5 thousand pa rin sya, and if 300 lang ang difference ng 6 and 8, I'm going for the 8. Thanks.
sir art inabot lang ng P5,050 yung euros6...tyempo bili ko sa halloween sale sa megamall last saturday....sir im still hoping na wala akong maging problema sa 6ohms impedance nya sa 450amps ko...have to switch kse sya sa 8ohms kse 5 speaker ko na rated 8ohms nya eh.
tnx.
sana makapost ka na ng review mo sa euros6 kasi nga im planning to get one. just a question, bat di euros8 ang kinuha mo e konti lang naman ang difference nila ngayon with regards sa price.
ang issue ko talaga sa euros8 is yung ganda ng tunog and yung compatibility sa 8-16 ohms ng receiver since 6 ohms ang sa euros8.
regards,
dvh
Sir dvh ok para sakin ang euros6 althought late ko na nabasa reviews ng euros8...balance naman ang tunog ng euros6...d ka bitin sa mga kalansing nya. ;D
tnx
fandvd
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Bro FanDVD,
Even though all your other speakers have an 8 ohm impedance, it would still be best to switch the impedance setting to the side where the impedance is lower, and that is at the 4 ohm side for speaker A and 6 ohms for all the others, Why? It would be better if the amp has a lower impedance than the speaker rather than the other way around. This is just an impedance limiting switch. So, ok lang if your amp is at 4 ohms and ang euros mo are at 6 ohms, and your other channels set at 6 ohms and the other speakers at 8 ohms. Look at it this way, parang gripo yan na kinakabitan ng hose e, if your faucet was like, say 1/2", and you attached a 1/4" inch hose to it, the water pressure would even be greater, all the better, di ba? But if you attached a 1" hose to your 1/2" faucet, e di ba mahina na ang pressure? Parang 8 ohm amp na nag-drive ng 4 ohm na speaker. Hirap syang palakasin. I hope my correlation helps. So I suggest switching your impedance to the lower setting. ;D
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...well with the 6ohms spker for the 8ohms amp?...wala pa naman akong nakikitang prob :) hopefully makaya ng amps ko...althought hindi naman ako ganon kalakas mag patugtog...
As much as possible, if there is no need for it, just leave the impedance switch of the amp as is - in the 8-ohm position.
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Ever noticed how similar Yamaha speakers are to Daiichi speakers? The Yamaha EF series to the DTX EFD and Euros? The NS-P50 center to the USAudio 11cc center? The Yamaha NS-150 (PMD Series) to the DTX 9.5 Towers? The Yamaha NS-P90 to the DTX 9.5 Bookshelfs? Both also employ sealed type enclosures for their center speakers. Just my thoughts. ;D
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sir art...maraming salamat...hope will see you...just text me thru 09178275276....para naman ma-audition mo yung setup ko...and my for sale tv's ;D...ok il try to re switch my amps to the lower impedance now...il take your word sir...tnx :)
fandvd
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sir art, my current set-up is Sakura AV 387and DTX 9.5 combo. I'm planning to upgrade my AVR into Marantz SR4500. Do you have any idea with this?
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Ever noticed how similar Yamaha speakers are to Daiichi speakers? The Yamaha EF series to the DTX EFD and Euros? The NS-P50 center to the USAudio 11cc center? The Yamaha NS-150 (PMD Series) to the DTX 9.5 Towers? The Yamaha NS-P90 to the DTX 9.5 Bookshelfs? Both also employ sealed type enclosures for their center speakers. Just my thoughts. ;D
Dai-1chi is known to OEM some speakers of known marques. IF they look, feel, sound and smell the same as Dai-1chi, they're most likely Dai-1chis. ;D
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Actually, sir AV, I'm thinkin' maybe Daiichi bases their designs on Yamahas. Remember the Audiofile SA-3s? Ginaya din nila yun sa Bose Jewel Cubes, di ba? Maybe they just base their designs on other foreign speaker manufacturers. That's what I think they may be doing. But now, that you've mentioned it, it may be a possibility since in their website, it says they're connected with Yamaha, along with many other brands. ;D ;D
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Dagdag ko lang sa mga hindi pa nakaka-alam...lifetime ang service warranty ng Dai-ichi speaker provided na mid to high end ang na-purchase mo na speakers from them.. Kasi nung nabili ko yung dai-ichi speakers ko way back 1994 hindi nasabi sa akin nung napag-bilhan ko na lifetime free service warranty yung mga speakers... ;) In other words, I have availed this very cool warranty.. O0
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Dagdag ko lang sa mga hindi pa nakaka-alam...lifetime ang service warranty ng Dai-ichi speaker provided na mid to high end ang na-purchase mo na speakers from them.. Kasi nung nabili ko yung dai-ichi speakers ko way back 1994 hindi nasabi sa akin nung napag-bilhan ko na lifetime free service warranty yung mga speakers... ;) In other words, I have availed this very cool warranty.. O0
Bro, I think their warranty applies to all their products, di lang mid-high end, I once had two pairs of audiofile sa-3s repaired and the only thing they charged me is the voice coil that they replaced. I don't think you can consider the sa-3s mid end, much less high end. ;D
Sir fandvd,
I don't think I can audition your set up since I'm residing in Bacolod, and regarding the tv's, me and the wifey are actually planning on getting a 34" flat tv with component video input and PIP, baka meron ka dyan, we're going to Manila on the 22nd of December kasi e. Thanks.
Bro Bauer,
I never had any experience with Marantz amps, but from what I've heard, they're great, I'm sure your 9.5s are gonna perform even better with your upgrade, and I'm sure you'll find it fascinating once you've connected your dvd player via digital connection (either via optical or coaxial). Aaah, the benefits of going digital.... ;D
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Actually, sir AV, I'm thinkin' maybe Daiichi bases their designs on Yamahas. Remember the Audiofile SA-3s? Ginaya din nila yun sa Bose Jewel Cubes, di ba? Maybe they just base their designs on other foreign speaker manufacturers. That's what I think they may be doing. But now, that you've mentioned it, it may be a possibility since in their website, it says they're connected with Yamaha, along with many other brands. ;D ;D
I wouldn't be surprised if Dai-1chi OEMed for Boss. (I would if I wanted huge profit margins. ;D) Those paper 2" speakers are not exactly high tech speaker materials. I could almost swear those Boss-like Audiofile cubes coupled with a US-Audio sub gave better sonic value than a Boss HT set at 1/10th the price. But that's just me. ;D
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I tend to agree, sir. ;D For both statements you made.
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saw a beautiful floorstanding daichi prototype on display at the Watt hifi booth at the WS hifi show in makati.
ganda! ;D
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To all DVD/Audio Guru's (pls help):
I have auditioned the Euros8 last weekend and was tempted to buy the Tower @ Php 5560. Will I have any problem if I am using an amplifier that has an output of 8 Ohms (Yamaha HTR-5240). Thank you very much in advance for your comments. :)
This is what is written in its Manual although I am not really sure what it means "LOW IMPEDANCE DRIVE CAPABILITY AND IMPEDANCE SWITCHINGYamaha's famed low impedance drive circuitry is included in this receiver so that it can handle virtually all loads and a wide variety of speakers. For further speaker matching, the receiver's back-panel switches can be set for either high or low-impedance main speakers and either high or low impedance center and surround speakers."
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So there's an impedance switch at the back. Just switch to 4ohms when using speakers less than 8 ohms but greater than 4.
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So there's an impedance switch at the back. Just switch to 4ohms when using speakers less than 8 ohms but greater than 4.
Sir av_phile1 thanks for the quick reply. Since I will only purchase the Tower (Euros8) and will retain the rear and center speakers which are all 8 ohms will this create a problem. ???
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expensive suggestion - ;D
Buy another set of 8ohms speakers connect them with ur present 8ohms speakers on parallel the resulting impedance would be 4 ohms - swabeng-swabe sa yamah mo na adjusted sa 4 ohms ;D
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expensive suggestion - ;D
Buy another set of 8ohms speakers connect them with ur present 8ohms speakers on parallel the resulting impedance would be 4 ohms - swabeng-swabe sa yamah mo na adjusted sa 4 ohms ;D
Thanks for the suggestion but might not be able to afford buying another set of 8 ohms since m planning also of upgrading to a bigger HDTV screen. Tamang tama sa Christmas bonus. :D If I don't push thru with buying a bigger TV what kind of speaker other than the Euros8 can you suggest. Thanks.
So there's an impedance switch at the back. Just switch to 4ohms when using speakers less than 8 ohms but greater than 4.
Sir Av_phile I checked the back of my HTR and this is what is written, sorry but I am not very familiar with the settings. Please help. Thanks again.
Main A or B : 4 Ohms Min. / Speaker
A + B : 8 Ohms Min. / Speaker
Center : 6 Ohms Min. / Speaker
Rear : 6 Ohms Min. / Speaker
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Sir av_phile1 thanks for the quick reply. Since I will only purchase the Tower (Euros8) and will retain the rear and center speakers which are all 8 ohms will this create a problem. ???
Answering on behalf of Sir AV:
Bro vtec3,
This would not cause any problems since the speakers have a higher impedance than the amplifier when it is switched at this position. As it says there at the back of your amp, for the center and rear speakers, 6 Ohms Minimum. That means, it can handle speakers with an impedance of 6 Ohms or higher, since 8 ohms is higher than 6 Ohms, then you wouldn't have any problems. Then with your fronts, since I'm assuming you're only using just one pair of speakers, your Euros are rated at 6 Ohms, your amp can handle 4 Ohms or higher, and since 6 Ohms is higher than 4 Ohms, you won't have any problems. Again, I stress, that is if you only use just one pair of front speakers, since using two pairs would oblige you to use speakers with impedance ratings of 8 Ohms or higher on both pairs.
As I usually suggest, think of impedances as water lines and faucets. Water lines being amplifiers and faucets being speakers. If you have, let's say a 1 inch water line (tubo ng tubig), and you attach a 1 inch faucet to it, bagay na bagay, di ba? If you attach a 1/2 inch faucet to the same 1 inch tubo, okay pa rin, the pressure of the water would even be stronger, right? So, all the better. But if you attach a 2 inch faucet to the same 1 inch water line, may lalabas pa rin na tubig but the pressure ain't that high anymore. I hope my correlation helps you see much clearer. ;)
Sir AV, thanks for obliging me.
God Bless, my brothers. ;D ;D ;D
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Sir arthurallanj,
Thank you very much for the explanation, it certainly has given me a better view of how HTR and speakers work. ;)
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medyo OT po ito...
di ba ang 6.1 setup ba is like this:
left front center right front
seat
left sur. center sur right sur
now my question: anong speaker ang gagamitin sa center surround? today i visited the one of the HT shops in park square and he told me that yung center surround is just like the center speaker so front and not to use the speaker type ng left/right surround. so meaning kung bibili ko ng speakers for 6.1 setup is 2 fronts (left/right), 2 rear (left/right), and 2 center(front/rear). tama ba ang sinabi sa akin. nalito ko kasi ang alam ko ang use ng center is focus on voice so parang mali ata...kasi lalabas yung voice sa harap at likod.
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Yamaha AVR's can drive low impedance speakers with no problems as long as you set the impedance switch correctly. a 6 ohm rating is peanuts for a Yammaha receiver. My father in law's set up is a Yamaha AVR that is driving an all Dynaudio HT speaker system (a truly stiff 4 ohm rating). it heats up after watching 2 to 3 movies in a row but it has never shut down. Sound Quality? sounds ok but IMHO moving up to high current true blue power amps will extract all the SQ and output low impedance speakers can belt out.
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medyo OT po ito...
di ba ang 6.1 setup ba is like this:
left front center right front
seat
left sur. center sur right sur
now my question: anong speaker ang gagamitin sa center surround? today i visited the one of the HT shops in park square and he told me that yung center surround is just like the center speaker so front and not to use the speaker type ng left/right surround. so meaning kung bibili ko ng speakers for 6.1 setup is 2 fronts (left/right), 2 rear (left/right), and 2 center(front/rear). tama ba ang sinabi sa akin. nalito ko kasi ang alam ko ang use ng center is focus on voice so parang mali ata...kasi lalabas yung voice sa harap at likod.
What the salesman told you is actually not incorrect. How else can you buy just one speaker for surrounds since they come in pairs? The important thing with surround speakers is timbre matching. But, on a personal note, I still prefer to use a pair of surrounds for the rear center channel for a 6.1 system and set it up like a 7.1 system. But if you can get just one piece of speaker like your present surrounds, that would be okay too. The purpose of a rear center is to provide a seamless transition of the sound coming from the surround speakers from left to right and vice versa. So the rear center is going to act like a part of the rear soundfield and not of the front where it takes care of the dialogue. I just don't like the idea of using a center speaker for the rear since I know for a fact that center speakers usually have two mid/bass drivers and my surrounds only have one. HIH. :)
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arthurallanj,
exactly my point also why i dont want to use a center speaker as center surround.
i will call daiichi and ask if they can sell just 1 pc of the euros8 surround so i can set it up as my center surround for my 6.1.
thanks for the info. by the way di ko naiisip na maglagay ng pair of surround as my center so it can be a 7.1 setup! so what i need to do is to buy a pair of surround speakers, then parallel wire it and connect to center surround of my avr...voila it will then be 7.1...then i'll re-position it so that it'll be left and right rear surround...then my true-left/right surround i'll place it on the side like this:
left front center right front
left surround seat right surround
center surround center surround (parallel wired to center surround of AVR)
thought? ok kaya ang setup na to? kaya lang ang impedance ng rear center surround ko is 8ohms at 100watts rms.... so dapat bilin ko speakers e 16ohms di ba?
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dvh, why not buy the same speakers you have for your left and right surrounds to be used as your center surround... Sold by set yan, but just hook two speakers din for your center surrounds, either parallel or series, depending on the impedance of said speakers and of course your amp kung kaya nya, mas maganda ang effect if u use two speakers for center surround especially when u have a large listening room... ;)
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arthurallanj,
exactly my point also why i dont want to use a center speaker as center surround.
i will call daiichi and ask if they can sell just 1 pc of the euros8 surround so i can set it up as my center surround for my 6.1.
thanks for the info. by the way di ko naiisip na maglagay ng pair of surround as my center so it can be a 7.1 setup! so what i need to do is to buy a pair of surround speakers, then parallel wire it and connect to center surround of my avr...voila it will then be 7.1...then i'll re-position it so that it'll be left and right rear surround...then my true-left/right surround i'll place it on the side like this:
left front center right front
left surround seat right surround
center surround center surround (parallel wired to center surround of AVR)
thought? ok kaya ang setup na to? kaya lang ang impedance ng rear center surround ko is 8ohms at 100watts rms.... so dapat bilin ko speakers e 16ohms di ba?
I don't think they would sell you just one piece. So better get a pair na lang, besides, the rear soundfield would become even wider if you use a pair instead of one. Don't worry about using a pair for your rear center since I've tried that already, kayang-kaya naman ng Yamaha yan e, I even tried using 3 pairs of surrounds for my Yamaha 430 dati and I never had a problem with it, those three pairs all had 6 Ohm ratings on them. Here's my suggested positioning:
left front center right front
Seat
left surround right surround
center surround center surround
Notice the left and right surrounds are place a bit behind the listener's position? It should be at least 10 degrees but not more than 30 degrees behind the listening position. The two center surrounds should be at least 12 inches apart.
Here's an option:
left front center right front
Seat
left surround center surr. center surr. right surround
I suggest connecting them at parallel. Connecting them at series would make the impedance higher but decrease the volume by half, but connecting them at parallel would decrease the impedance by half but the volume would be the same for the two speakers.
e.g. let's say both are rated at 8 Ohms, when connected at series, the load on the amp would be 16 Ohms, but the volume would be cut to half. When connected at parallel, the volume on both each speaker would be the same as attaching only one except that this time, the impedance would be 4 Ohms. Why parallel? The volume would be higher since two speakers are now operating at the same spl/loudness. You need not worry about the impedance, I'm kaya yan ng amp mo. Going series would only defeat the purpose of having two speakers kasi mahina sya masyado. Unless you have two 4 ohm speakers and you'd connect both in series. :)
Hope I helped. ;D ;D
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arthurallanj,
thanks sa info...by the way my AVR is kenwood VR806S - true 6.1 100 watts rms.
just want to be sure..ang parallel is:
+ of both speakers are connected and they are connected thru the AVRs center surround + port
- of both speakers are connected and they are connected thru the AVRs cneter surround - port
right?
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arthurallanj,
thanks sa info...by the way my AVR is kenwood VR806S - true 6.1 100 watts rms.
just want to be sure..ang parallel is:
+ of both speakers are connected and they are connected thru the AVRs center surround + port
- of both speakers are connected and they are connected thru the AVRs cneter surround - port
right?
You got it! ;D
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Answering on behalf of Sir AV:
Bro vtec3,
This would not cause any problems since the speakers have a higher impedance than the amplifier when it is switched at this position. As it says there at the back of your amp, for the center and rear speakers, 6 Ohms Minimum. That means, it can handle speakers with an impedance of 6 Ohms or higher, since 8 ohms is higher than 6 Ohms, then you wouldn't have any problems. Then with your fronts, since I'm assuming you're only using just one pair of speakers, your Euros are rated at 6 Ohms, your amp can handle 4 Ohms or higher, and since 6 Ohms is higher than 4 Ohms, you won't have any problems. Again, I stress, that is if you only use just one pair of front speakers, since using two pairs would oblige you to use speakers with impedance ratings of 8 Ohms or higher on both pairs.
Sir AV, thanks for obliging me.
God Bless, my brothers. ;D ;D ;D
Sir Arthurallanj,
Thanks very much for your help and insights that you have shared. I have purchased the Euros8 Tower yesterday and I am pretty much satisfied by its performance. ;D
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Sir Arthurallanj,
Thanks very much for your help and insights that you have shared. I have purchased the Euros8 Tower yesterday and I am pretty much satisfied by its performance. ;D
Kamusta Euros8? Di ba masyadong boomy?
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Kamusta Euros8? Di ba masyadong boomy?
Sir Chito medyo boomy nga, binawasan ko na lang ang bass sa amps :)
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bro magkano ba kuha mo jan? thnks
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Nakakainggit naman kayo, excited na rin akong bumili ng Euros 8 towers, buti na lang bumaba na rin ang price sa mga dealers. Buying this December na, as soon as I get my bonus, Har har har har. ;D
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Nakakainggit naman kayo, excited na rin akong bumili ng Euros 8 towers, buti na lang bumaba na rin ang price sa mga dealers. Buying this December na, as soon as I get my bonus, Har har har har. ;D
Sir, fortunately I tried yung set na binibili ko medyo nagkaroon ng challenge dahil yung isang I think tweeter hindi tumutunog, so I got na lang yung display (at least two days ng na break-in). :D
bro magkano ba kuha mo jan? thnks
Sir Php 5,560 ang kuha ko dun sa Tower sa SM Megamall. Pero it took a while naka tatlong balik ako bago ko nakakuha. Mukhang madami ang bumubili. ;)
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teka kala ko ba nagmura e last month pa 5560 ang cost ng euros8 floorstander!
anyway ako rin bibili na sa december...konting tulog na lang....may euros8 na ko!!!
so other users ng Euros8 pls post your feedback on your euros8!
TY
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what amp/avr would best match this euros speaker?
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(http://www.daiichi.ph/imageht0019.gif)
Yan ba yung sinasabi nyong Euro 8?
Currently owned DTX tower and center and Sony bookshelf as surround. Baka upgrade ako ang gawin kong front and Euro 8 and surround na lang ang DTX tower ko.
Ala naman sigurong problema sa timber matching since both came from the same manufacturer, ano?
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what amp/avr would best match this euros speaker?
I am using a Yamaha HTR-5420 which I bought in the US. Initially ang gamit ko as front speaker is a Bose 301 which I use now as my rear speaker at ni-retire ko na yung aking Bose na satellite. Sounds better than my previous set-up now that I am using the Euros8 as my front speaker.
Have only watch two movies pa lang Face Off (5.1) at Atlantis (DTS) sounds better now talaga.
(http://www.daiichi.ph/imageht0019.gif)
Yan ba yung sinasabi nyong Euro 8?
Currently owned DTX tower and center and Sony bookshelf as surround. Baka upgrade ako ang gawin kong front and Euro 8 and surround na lang ang DTX tower ko.
Ala naman sigurong problema sa timber matching since both came from the same manufacturer, ano?
Yup yan nga yung Euros8 na nabili ko although yung tower lang ang kinuha ko. I suggest if ur buying one bring a SUV or a Pickup masyadong malaki kapag naka box hindi kasya sa car not unless Honda Jazz ang car ;D. I saw pa a pair of DTX tower sa SM Megamall which they are now selling at a discounted price. ;)
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(http://www.daiichi.ph/imageht0019.gif)
Yan ba yung sinasabi nyong Euro 8?
Currently owned DTX tower and center and Sony bookshelf as surround. Baka upgrade ako ang gawin kong front and Euro 8 and surround na lang ang DTX tower ko.
Ala naman sigurong problema sa timber matching since both came from the same manufacturer, ano?
Wow, you probably don't need subs with those floorstanders. ;D And lakas siguro ng bass niyan. Three woofers na, ported pa!!!
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(http://www.daiichi.ph/imageht0019.gif)
Yan ba yung sinasabi nyong Euro 8?
Currently owned DTX tower and center and Sony bookshelf as surround. Baka upgrade ako ang gawin kong front and Euro 8 and surround na lang ang DTX tower ko.
Ala naman sigurong problema sa timber matching since both came from the same manufacturer, ano?
Sirs I think these were not the Euros series but rather the EFDs. The Euros (8 and 6) I saw only have two woofers. I maybe wrong...
cheers!
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Mga sir, saan po ang repair shop ng dai-ichi? Tsaka plano ko po sana mag set-up ng 5.1 speakers using dai-chi balak ko sana ikabit sa sakura 387, ano mga recommended nyo na gamitin ko?
Thanks! ;D
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Yakuini,
Magkano ang discount na binibigay ng Daiichi megamall sa Euros8? last time kasi ako nagtanong...a month ago price nya is 5560 PHP.
regards,
dvh
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Sirs I think these were not the Euros series but rather the EFDs. The Euros (8 and 6) I saw only have two woofers. I maybe wrong...
cheers!
Mukha ngang di ito mga bros-- ;D these babies cost around 15k yata ::)
vtec -tnx for the mention of the price- ;)
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guys,
here's the manila daiichi site --> http://www.daiichi.ph/home.htm
and based sa pictures sa site na yan, mukhang iyan talaga ang euros8.
maybe current owners of euros8 can help clarify this issue...can you post pics of your euros8?
dvh
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Base on the Dai-ichi site, their EFD series looks much like their Euros8 and 6 series, with the same 3-woofer d'appolito array configuration. Naiba lang sa woofer sizes and features.
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For those who will audition euros 8 please also audition pl-100. I think the pl-100 is better.
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guys,
here's the manila daiichi site --> http://www.daiichi.ph/home.htm
and based sa pictures sa site na yan, mukhang iyan talaga ang euros8.
maybe current owners of euros8 can help clarify this issue...can you post pics of your euros8?
dvh
I checked my Euros8 last night and basically pareho din except that naiba lang yung layout/positioning nung mga woofer (yung nasa pinakataas is yung tweeter). I will try to post the pics tomorrow. ;)
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Mga sir, saan po ang repair shop ng dai-ichi? Tsaka plano ko po sana mag set-up ng 5.1 speakers using dai-chi balak ko sana ikabit sa sakura 387, ano mga recommended nyo na gamitin ko?
Thanks! ;D
The Daiichi service center is at their Raon Showroom in Raon Mall along Quezon. A lot of HTers love the Sakura-DTX 9.5 combo. It may even be better if you get Euros, but not necessary. The 9.5 system seems to be better matched with Sakuras since Sakuras have higher power for the front channels and lower power for the center and surround channels, which makes them complement each other since the 9.5 towers have clarity but is a bit weak on bass. And it would also be nice if you get a center speaker that has a ported enclosure since Daiichi centers are sealed, and in my experience, Sakuras find it a bit hard to drive them. A friend of mine drilled a hole, about an inch in diameter, behind his 9.5 center to get the best of both worlds, matching and lower power requirement, 'coz we all know sealed enclosures require more power for the same amount of cone movement. His Sakura-DTX 9.5 combo is great. This is the same friend who attached potetiometers on the amp's front speakers outs to regulate the volume of the front speakers. ;D
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guys,
here's the manila daiichi site --> http://www.daiichi.ph/home.htm
and based sa pictures sa site na yan, mukhang iyan talaga ang euros8.
maybe current owners of euros8 can help clarify this issue...can you post pics of your euros8?
dvh
sirs, I asked them that question before and according to them for EFD daw yung pics. Anyway, I'll take pictures of the euros when I passed by the Dai-ichi showroom or let's just wait for the owners to post theirs.
cheers.
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Base on the Dai-ichi site, their EFD series looks much like their Euros8 and 6 series, with the same 3-woofer d'appolito array configuration. Naiba lang sa woofer sizes and features.
This is actually the reason, Sir AV, that I once asked pickle, who works at Daiichi, if all the specs on their site is accurate since what is posted about the sensitivities of the 9.5 system is different between the actual product and on the site. And if everybody could notice, the pic of the Euros 8 on the site seems to have 3 woofers with the same sizes, but the specs say that its a 3-way system that has dual 8-inch woofers and a 5.25-inch midrange and a 1-inch tweeter. And note that it also says that the woofers of the towers are silver coated, maybe they found a way to coat it with silver that has a black color. And also note that the Euros 6 towers seem to have a better frequency response than the Euros 8 towers, from the woofer sizes of both, this would seem highly unlikely, maybe because it says on the specs, it has triple woofer drivers, but still. There are a lot of other seemingly inaccurate specs on the site, I hope the Daiichi people would correct it. My point? The site specs may really be inaccurate, so it's best to check the actual product.
Euros 8 owners,
Please post your Euros 8 pics if you can so we may all see. Especially me since I plan to get a pair of towers this month, thanks in advance mga bro. ;D
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I checked my Euros8 last night and basically pareho din except that naiba lang yung layout/positioning nung mga woofer (yung nasa pinakataas is yung tweeter). I will try to post the pics tomorrow. ;)
How many woofers, bro? Does it have two woofers and a midrange, or three woofers? Is the enclosure shape actually like the Pregnant series EFD? Or rectangular din lang? Maybe we should all check the pics of all Euros owners. ;D
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sir art, what amp would you pair your euros8, sakura or yammy? audio or Ht?
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sir art, what amp would you pair your euros8, sakura or yammy? audio or Ht?
I'm pairing those Euros with a Yamaha 650, already gave away my Sakura 1600. I'm more into HT, but I do love listening to music, and the Yamaha is just okay for me. ;D
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For those who will audition euros 8 please also audition pl-100. I think the pl-100 is better.
i think too sir when i auditioned them. mas detailed yung PL-100 compared to the euros na medyo boomy but i think the euros will fit my requirements, mura pa.
thanks.
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i think too sir when i auditioned them. mas detailed yung PL-100 compared to the euros na medyo boomy but i think the euros will fit my requirements, mura pa.
thanks.
As they say, bro, it's much easier to tame too much bass than to look for ways to improve it. ;D
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How many woofers, bro? Does it have two woofers and a midrange, or three woofers? Is the enclosure shape actually like the Pregnant series EFD? Or rectangular din lang? Maybe we should all check the pics of all Euros owners. ;D
sir it has two woofers and one midrange and a tweeter on top. Speaker placement tweeter, woofer, midrange, woofer. I will try to post the picture tomorrow.
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sir it has two woofers and one midrange and a tweeter on top. Speaker placement tweeter, woofer, midrange, woofer. I will try to post the picture tomorrow.
Ain't that weird? I really must see your picture of it. Thanks. ;D
Anybody purchased the Euros 6? Care to post a pic? Thanks. ;D
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Ain't that weird? I really must see your picture of it. Thanks. ;D
sir, it looks the same as the one shown in the daiichi website except for the configuration/layout :
website : woofer, tweeter, woofer, woofer
actual : tweeter, woofer, mid-range, woofer
sorry for my ignorance but how can I post pictures. do I simply do a cut and paste. Thanks. :D
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sorry for my ignorance but how can I post pictures. do I simply do a cut and paste. Thanks. :D
go to this site http://www.imageshack.us/index.php
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talaga? mas maganda ang tunog ng PL-100 as compared to Euros8? kailangan ma audition before mag decide. btw magkano ang PL-100?
oo nga sana may mag post na ng pics ng euros 6 and 8...calling all euros owners...
im planning to get euros8 in 2-3 wks time.
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oo nga sana may mag post na ng pics ng euros 6 and 8...calling all euros owners...
im planning to get euros8 in 2-3 wks time.
(http://img115.exs.cx/img115/3554/3d-Euros80001.th.jpg) (http://img115.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img115&image=3d-Euros80001.jpg)
(http://img115.exs.cx/img115/2793/69-Euros80002.th.jpg) (http://img115.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img115&image=69-Euros80002.jpg)
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go to this site http://www.imageshack.us/index.php
Thanks ;)
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Didn't expect it would look that way, but yes, maganda sya.
Bro vtec3,
Yung box nya ba pregnanat type din n parang EFD o square lang talaga, can't see with the picture e, maybe you can post a pic na medyo nakatagilid sya? Thanks. ;D
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square lang sya
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Ay, turn off. Anyway. Gust ko pa rin sya. Wala ba syang ibang kulay? Thanks, bro. ;D
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Didn't expect it would look that way, but yes, maganda sya.
Bro vtec3,
Yung box nya ba pregnanat type din n parang EFD o square lang talaga, can't see with the picture e, maybe you can post a pic na medyo nakatagilid sya? Thanks. ;D
cge sir post ako ng pictures :)
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oo nga sana may ibang color...
mas babagay sana sa AVR ko yan kung may pag ka silver ang color since silver ang AVR ko...
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Didn't expect it would look that way, but yes, maganda sya.
Bro vtec3,
Yung box nya ba pregnanat type din n parang EFD o square lang talaga, can't see with the picture e, maybe you can post a pic na medyo nakatagilid sya? Thanks. ;D
(http://img36.exs.cx/img36/9144/q3heuros80002.th.jpg) (http://img36.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img36&image=q3heuros80002.jpg)
(http://img36.exs.cx/img36/1227/w9heuros80004.th.jpg) (http://img36.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img36&image=w9heuros80004.jpg)
(http://img36.exs.cx/img36/4237/p7seuros80005.th.jpg) (http://img36.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img36&image=p7seuros80005.jpg)
sir pregnant type nga yung box nung Euros8. :D
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Bro vtec3,
That's great news for me. Thanks ha? Mas gusto ko na sya ngayon. ;D
Sir Chito,
Euros 8 din ba ang sa yo? Ba't ang kay bro vtec3 pregnant type daw? Yung sa yo ba hindi? Thanks. ;D
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ano ibig sabihin ng pregnant type at square po?
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(http://img115.exs.cx/img115/3554/3d-Euros80001.th.jpg) (http://img115.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img115&image=3d-Euros80001.jpg)
(http://img115.exs.cx/img115/2793/69-Euros80002.th.jpg) (http://img115.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img115&image=69-Euros80002.jpg)
ganda nito ah... bili na > ;D >:D ;D
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ano ibig sabihin ng pregnant type at square po?
This means the shape of the enclosure, cross sectional shape. The common shape of speakers are box like, you know, like an elongated cube. But the pregnant series have some sort of an elliptical shape at the sides. Enclosures of this type is said to have better response because of less enclosure colorations and resonances. The Yamaha EF series are shaped similarly. ;D
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(http://img36.exs.cx/img36/9144/q3heuros80002.th.jpg) (http://img36.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img36&image=q3heuros80002.jpg)
(http://img36.exs.cx/img36/1227/w9heuros80004.th.jpg) (http://img36.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img36&image=w9heuros80004.jpg)
(http://img36.exs.cx/img36/4237/p7seuros80005.th.jpg) (http://img36.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img36&image=p7seuros80005.jpg)
sir pregnant type nga yung box nung Euros8. :D
Bro, favor ulit, please? Can you post a pic of the top view of the speaker? So we can finally put this to rest. Can't see pa rin e. He he. Thanks bro ha? ;D
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[Sir Chito,
Euros 8 din ba ang sa yo? Ba't ang kay bro vtec3 pregnant type daw? Yung sa yo ba hindi? Thanks. ;D
Wala akong euros8 but auditioned it 3x. Nalito tuloy ako kung ano yung pregnant type. Liked the pl-100 better since ur gonna use a sub anayway (mas detailed).
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Sir Chito,
Medyo confused na rin nga ako e. I plan to buy the Euros 8 this month kasi e, that's why I'm very interested about the details. Sa website kasi, di din accurate e. Anyway, thanks, sir. ;D
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Liked the euros 8 especially at it's price. If ur into HT parang kinakalabog ang dibdib mo. If u ever buy one can you please listen to the pl-100 fronts. Just like to know other reviews. Haven't upgraded my fronts yet (bose accoustimass 3) but will probably but warfs 8.3 or 9.2 but still interested in the pl-100.
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Ok, sure thing. I like Wharfes too, but the sensitivity is a major turn off for me, and being made in China. But, to each his own, di ba? And at their price? Konti na lang, Yamaha na. Anywayz... ;D
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magkano ba yung dai-ichi PL-100 and EURO 8?
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euros less than 5,600
pl-100 less than 5,700
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euros less than 5,600
pl-100 less than 5,700
Uy affordable pala yan will check out megamall showroom nga... my uncle is scouting for speaker eh budget conscious.. :) pagok yan na suggest ko.
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Uy affordable pala yan will check out megamall showroom nga... my uncle is scouting for speaker eh budget conscious.. :) pagok yan na suggest ko.
it will be nice if you share your comments when you audition this speakers. tia ;)
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it will be nice if you share your comments when you audition this speakers. tia ;)
Sure pre will pm you pag naka daan. :)
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all PL-100 owners...
post naman kayo ng reviews...
nalilito na ko kung euros8 or pl-100 kunin ko...
thanks in advance...
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Really very much interested to know anything about how these 6 ohms speakers perform with 8 ohms receivers.. Anyone having this combi please? ;)
Base on theories, it seems hooking these 6 ohms speakers to 8 ohms receivers/amps is not advisable... but price of these speakers is tempting me to try >:D but i really want to know first actual experiences of users ::) thnks
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Sir Jerix,
I think there are many members here who are using the yammy/warfs combo (8ohms receiver/6 ohms speakers) for their ht so I don't think there's a problem. Wharfs are even harder to drive than the daichi speakers because of ther sensitivity.
Sir arthurallanj,
Leaning more on wharfs kasi from ht gusto ko na mag audio eh. Best speakers for it's price.
Sir dvh,
Gusto ko ngang may ibang makinig ng pl-100 para malaman ko kung tama nga ang rinig ko. Euros 8 is definitely for ht especially if u don't have or plan on buying a sub.
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euros less than 5,600
pl-100 less than 5,700
Sa kumpare ko, he's giving me an additional discount. I've decided dun na lang ako bibili. ;D
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Bro, favor ulit, please? Can you post a pic of the top view of the speaker? So we can finally put this to rest. Can't see pa rin e. He he. Thanks bro ha? ;D
(http://img94.exs.cx/img94/5708/t8reuros830001.th.jpg) (http://img94.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img94&image=t8reuros830001.jpg)
(http://img94.exs.cx/img94/1785/f3yeuros830003.th.jpg) (http://img94.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img94&image=f3yeuros830003.jpg)
;D
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Bro vtec3,
Thank you very much. Wish you many happy listening hours with your toy. ;D
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Really very much interested to know anything about how these 6 ohms speakers perform with 8 ohms receivers.. Anyone having this combi please? ;)
Base on theories, it seems hooking these 6 ohms speakers to 8 ohms receivers/amps is not advisable... but price of these speakers is tempting me to try >:D but i really want to know first actual experiences of users ::) thnks
I bought the Euros8 Tower recently and still maintained my Yamaha Amps, wala pa naman ako na experience na problem. Every now and then tinitingnan ko kung umiinit pero so far k naman. Hopefully stays that way. :)
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Sir,
I have an ONKYO TX-800 amp rated at 130 watts (8 ohms) and I'm planning to have a separate setup for audio. I have the diamond 8.3 on mind paired with a surplus CDP,until i found this thread, do you guys think that these euro towers will match my amp. Which would sound better kaya?
thanks.
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Bro vtec3,
Thank you very much. Wish you many happy listening hours with your toy. ;D
ur welcome sir. so far happy naman ako sa Euros8 although HT lang talaga gamit ko sa kanya. ;D
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As I've said, ever noticed the similarities in design of Yamahas and Daiichis? Similar ang enclosure ng EF Series, Yamaha NS-555 & NS-777, with the Euros. Could it be that Daiichi takes after Yamaha??? ??? Obvious ba? He he he. ;D
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I bought the Euros8 Tower recently and still maintained my Yamaha Amps, wala pa naman ako na experience na problem. Every now and then tinitingnan ko kung umiinit pero so far k naman. Hopefully stays that way. :)
I don't think you'd have a problem with that, Yamahas are rated at 6 Ohms, Daiichis are rated at 6 Ohms, too. So matched nga talaga sila in terms of impedance. More and more each day I believe Daiichi bases their designs from foreign counterparts, but moreso, at least that's what I think, with Yamaha. ;D
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heres my HTsetup:
Main B: Euros 8 floorstander
Main A: Polk Audio R20
Center: Polk Audio R25
Surround: Polk Audio R15
BCenter: Kenwood ES
SUB: UsAudio 512
Reciever:Yamaha rxv450
DVD: Pioneer 373
Caravision Multi Videoke system
CD player: Denon 1520
TV: 32inch wide screen (sony surplus)
Sir Arthurallanj eto pala yung daiichi na sinasabi ko syo. ;D
http://img126.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img126&image=l1fcimg2511.jpg
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As I've said, ever noticed the similarities in design of Yamahas and Daiichis? Similar ang enclosure ng EF Series, Yamaha NS-555 & NS-777, with the Euros. Could it be that Daiichi takes after Yamaha??? ??? Obvious ba? He he he. ;D
Dai-ichi could be an OEM for Yamaha. And others. Other than that, it's really easy to copy the physical dimensions of a known speaker brand. Even their crossovers. One can always reverse-engineer.
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Dai-ichi could be an OEM for Yamaha. And others. Other than that, it's really easy to copy the physical dimensions of a known speaker brand. Even their crossovers. One can always reverse-engineer.
Reverse-engineering is the word. I think that's what they do. Although, I don't think they're an OEM for Yamaha, sir AV. But I'm very certain they are for Pioneer. That's why, If I never get to buy those NS-555s someday, makukuntento na lang ako sa Euros. He he. Good day, Sir AV. ;D
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As I've said, ever noticed the similarities in design of Yamahas and Daiichis? Similar ang enclosure ng EF Series, Yamaha NS-555 & NS-777, with the Euros. Could it be that Daiichi takes after Yamaha??? ??? Obvious ba? He he he. ;D
sir I think tama yang observation mo. i think you get value for money for the Euros8. my HT now sounds a lot better than before when I was using Bose 301 as my main speakers. ;)
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sir I think tama yang observation mo. i think you get value for money for the Euros8. my HT now sounds a lot better than before when I was using Bose 301 as my main speakers. ;)
Ain't that what it's all about? Value for your money. I was happy with my DTX 9.5, and it also had good value, but I think it's time I grew into something with better bass response. Excited na ako!!! ;D ;D
Oh and ahh, a little secret an insider from Daiichi told me, the Euros were really mass produced for export, that's why medyo mahal sya nung simula, and Daiichi alledgedly overproduced these beautiful babes, that's why they're selling it at these lowered prices, swerte natin, no? He he ;D. Hoy, mga bro, secret lang natin to ha? He he he. ;D >:D ;D
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heres my HTsetup:
Main B: Euros 8 floorstander
Main A: Polk Audio R20
Center: Polk Audio R25
Surround: Polk Audio R15
BCenter: Kenwood ES
Reciever:Yamaha rxv450
DVD: Pioneer 373
Caravision Multi Videoke system
CD player: Denon 1520
TV: 32inch wide screen (sony surplus)
Sir Arthurallanj eto pala yung daiichi na sinasabi ko syo. ;D
http://img126.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img126&image=l1fcimg2511.jpg
Bro,
That's a beautiful set up. I just fell in love with the Euros 8. Are those isolation spikes I see? Did you make them yourself? Or bought them? Or did they come with the Euros? Thanks in advance. ;D
Oh and ahh, on a personal note, those two people on the picture frames also look beautiful. Lagyan ko rin kaya ng pictures namin ang set up ko? Para naman ma-touch si misis. He he. ;D
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Bro,
That's a beautiful set up. I just fell in love with the Euros 8. Are those isolation spikes I see? Did you make them yourself? Or bought them? Or did they come with the Euros? Thanks in advance. ;D
tnx
Sir kasama na yan sa euros 8 yung mga spikes..actually wala pa sa pic yung caravision..update ko yung pics ko later ng mas ok na shots.
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tnx
Sir kasama na yan sa euros 8 yung mga spikes..actually wala pa sa pic yung caravision..update ko yung pics ko later ng mas ok na shots.
Oh yes!! I just love it, it gets better and better everyday. 99% na akong sure sa Euros 8. Oh X-Mas Bonus, nasaan ka na? He he. ;D
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Sir,
I have an ONKYO TX-800 amp rated at 130 watts (8 ohms) and I'm planning to have a separate setup for audio. I have the diamond 8.3 on mind paired with a surplus CDP,until i found this thread, do you guys think that these euro towers will match my amp. Which would sound better kaya?
thanks.
up ko lang... thanks
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bro Chito, tnx for your comments- ;) at least good comments naman yata ang nababasa ko sa issue about the impedance mismatch between the Euros 8 which is 6 ohms and 8 ohms amps...
but still waiting for a contrary opinion..
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bro Chito, tnx for your comments- ;) at least good comments naman yata ang nababasa ko sa issue about the impedance mismatch between the Euros 8 which is 6 ohms and 8 ohms amps...
but still waiting for a contrary opinion..
This is not a contrary opinion, just a cautionary one.
In general, 8-ohm nominally rated speakers should be paired with amps requiring or recommending 8-ohm speakers. But some amps with this recommendation can handles lower loads on a continuous basis except that it operates much hotter. You would just need to train a cooling fan over its heat sinks. And not overdrive it at high volumes or the protection circuit will engage.
If you plan to set the speakers to SMALL and route bass to a powered subwoofer, then the amp can run cooler even with a lower load. Bear in mind that most frequencies below 100 hz have low impedances that can reach down to 3 ohms or lower, so they are the ones that will tax an amp. But if such frequencies are routed to a powered sub, there'd be little to nothing to tax the amp with.
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oh yeah, master av_phile1 -- thnks again ;D cautionary comments fully taken -- ;D but is there another way to make that 8 ohms? ::)
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There are awkward ways, like putting a 2-ohm 50-watt resistor in series with each speaker or using a matching transformer.
But I don't see the urgency to do so. To be absolutely sure, bring your receiver to the AV shop or a Euros owner, connect it to the Euros and listen for an hour at the volume you like (hope the salesman won't mind) and see if your receiver doesn't go into protection mode. Chances are it won't, but will be hotter.
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guys,
a friend of mine just auditioned euros8 in megamall and he said grabe sa HT demo dvd pa is yung saving private ryan...description nga ng friend ko is para syang dinidibdiban sa ganda ng bass sa HT...
but...
as per him medyo di gaanong appealing sa music...
euros8 owners...care to post reviews ng euros8 with regards to music?
iyon na lang ang kulang kong info and sigurado na kong bibili ng euros8 ... ilang tulog na lang!!!
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guys,
a friend of mine just auditioned euros8 in megamall and he said grabe sa HT demo dvd pa is yung saving private ryan...description nga ng friend ko is para syang dinidibdiban sa ganda ng bass sa HT...
but...
as per him medyo di gaanong appealing sa music...
euros8 owners...care to post reviews ng euros8 with regards to music?
iyon na lang ang kulang kong info and sigurado na kong bibili ng euros8 ... ilang tulog na lang!!!
I played Cris Cross Live DVD and noticed also that medyo nga di appealing sa music ang euros8. Pero I agree with your friend na kapag movies you will be amazed by its performance. ;)
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match na match pala sila ng yammy avr coz maganda sa HT pero hindi gaano sa audio.
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That is exactly the reason why the Euros 8 didn't perform well with bro vtec3's set up, he's using a Yamaha amp. Why don't we ask somebody else who's using the Euros 8 with a different amp? :)
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Anyone knows how much is the Center of Euro 8?
Will upgrade my DTX Tower and Center this month. Me takers na sa DTX speakers ko :)
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euros less than 5,600
pl-100 less than 5,700
sir ang price ba nito ay each or by pair? thanks!
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sir ang price ba nito ay each or by pair? thanks!
Pair, bro. :)
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Punta na rin yata ako mamaya sa Megamall para ma-audition itong Euros. Pwede kaya pa-palitan yung fronts ng ibang model ng speaker ng Dai-ichi din na mas okay para sa music?
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Anyone knows how much is the Center of Euro 8?
Will upgrade my DTX Tower and Center this month. Me takers na sa DTX speakers ko :)
Euro8 Tower 5,560 Bookshelf 2,860 Center 1,650 Sub 6,420.
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Punta na rin yata ako mamaya sa Megamall para ma-audition itong Euros. Pwede kaya pa-palitan yung fronts ng ibang model ng speaker ng Dai-ichi din na mas okay para sa music?
sir arthurallanj might have a point with the amps I am using. I am using Yamaha HTR 5240 (HTR Home Theater Receiver) baka nga dahil designed ito for Home Theater kaya medyo di masyadong ok sa audio, this also holds true kahit nung Bose pa ang naka kabit na speaker ko sa fronts. I will try to use a Sansui amps (Old model nga lang) this weekend if I will have time, then I will post my review. ;D
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Euro8 Tower 5,560 Bookshelf 2,860 Center 1,650 Sub 6,420.
Thanks Vtec3. Bumili ka rin ba ng Center? Do you have to have a picture of it? Pa post kung meron...Thanks again, your pics made us decide to upgrade...SARS
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Punta na rin yata ako mamaya sa Megamall para ma-audition itong Euros. Pwede kaya pa-palitan yung fronts ng ibang model ng speaker ng Dai-ichi din na mas okay para sa music?
Just gone to there showroom yesterday at Megamall for HT ok lang Euros but for music mukhang di bagay kinda bright and lean they are using Yamaha AVR and DVD player for demo and notice bakit yun bass is different not sure baka out of phase ang kabit minsan meron sometimes eh mahina considering the 2 big woofer i doubt yun lang kaya nya. also tried PL100 same observation.. so i ask the girl assistant if they still have some other models and she pointed me inside dun still have the euros, DTX slim and US600B ( not sure of the model US) but the later is better in music a little roll of yun high pero baka makuha sa placement and break in tapos buti and NAD amp gamit nila. :) pero DVD pa rin player
will try to visit there RAon showroom and bring some CD di ako nakadala eh biglaan.. :)
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Thanks Vtec3. Bumili ka rin ba ng Center? Do you have to have a picture of it? Pa post kung meron...Thanks again, your pics made us decide to upgrade...SARS
I am still using Bose as my center speaker pero am planning to get a Euros8 center also before the Christmas. will post pictures as soon as nabili ko na. :D
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sir arthurallanj might have a point with the amps I am using. I am using Yamaha HTR 5240 (HTR Home Theater Receiver) baka nga dahil designed ito for Home Theater kaya medyo di masyadong ok sa audio, this also holds true kahit nung Bose pa ang naka kabit na speaker ko sa fronts. I will try to use a Sansui amps (Old model nga lang) this weekend if I will have time, then I will post my review. ;D
That's okay bro, those vintage amps are great, even better than some new ones, so go, test those beauties on your sansui amps. I believe the Euros are gonna be great for music since Daiichis usually have great clarity and as other owners previously posted, the bass response is also great. This has been the weakness of the highly popular DTX 9.5 series. ;D
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That's okay bro, those vintage amps are great, even better than some new ones, so go, test those beauties on your sansui amps. I believe the Euros are gonna be great for music since Daiichis usually have great clarity and as other owners previously posted, the bass response is also great. This has been the weakness of the highly popular DTX 9.5 series. ;D
Wish that Dai-ichi showroom have better amp for auditioning sayang naman yun speaker line nila kung di marinig yun true sound. :)
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I think that the amp they use at the Raon showroom is much better. That's where I auditioned the 9.5 dati. ;D
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Euro8 Tower 5,560 Bookshelf 2,860 Center 1,650 Sub 6,420.
yung price ba nung tower and bookshelf by pairs na or 1pc lang yun?
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yung price ba nung tower and bookshelf by pairs na or 1pc lang yun?
Pair pre.
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Euro8 Tower 5,560 Bookshelf 2,860 Center 1,650 Sub 6,420.
Mas mahal pa ata pagkabili ko nung DTX center ko a. ???
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I went to the Raon showroom, okay naman service and showroom setup nila. Ang laki pala ng euros towers! Nagulat ako sa laki, di ko na-imagine from the pics. Kahit yung euros 6 and PL-100 medyo malaki pa rin. And volume-wise medyo parang overkill siya sa HT room namin. Since may stock pa ng DTX sa stores sa baba, I think yun na lang bibilhin namin, sounds okay naman, much better than our current setup, and I like the maple design.
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same here! visited thier megmall showroom naman, ang laki nga ng euro8 :o medyo matinis sa tingin ko might be the yamaha amp but overall it was a ok ...was listening to Claire Marlo's till they take my heart away :)....dalin ko mga cd ko on my next visit
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Pinarinig muna nila yung movie DVD demo disc nila (Gladiator, Saving Pvt Ryan), parang di gaano kalaki difference from yung HTIB namin except for the bass. Tapos pinatugtog ko yung dinala kong CD na classical naman, Art of Fugue ni Bach performed by a string quartet. Ang layo ng difference! I could hear so much more than I used to hear from the HTIB. Nagtataka nga lang ako bakit nila ipha-phase out yung DTX series when I think there are still people who only need speakers of this size and will be overwhelmed by the euros (like me).
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hello guys,
i'm kinda new in HT systems. can somebody tell me the difference between connecting your speaker directly to your dvd player with 5.1 decoder and using a receiver between your dvd player and 5.1 speaker.
thanks ;D ;D ;D
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pwede kaya magdala ng AVR sa megamall showroom and pakabit yung euros8? this way ma audition mo ang matching level sa sariling mong AVR.
thoughts?
dvh
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Mas mahal pa ata pagkabili ko nung DTX center ko a. ???
sir i checked the prices again last night and tama naman. from what i remember the DTX 9.5C sells for 1.8k, DTX 9.5B 2.2K and DTX 9.5T 3.8K, m not sure if the prices are still the same. ;)
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pwede kaya magdala ng AVR sa megamall showroom and pakabit yung euros8? this way ma audition mo ang matching level sa sariling mong AVR.
thoughts?
dvh
Any AV shop should allow that. As it can convince the customer of the quality of their products when connected to the customer's gear. This is often done prior to many purchases I've heard in this forum. Though that Dai-ichi stall at mega is a showroom, I wouldn't be surprised if they can't accommodate your request. But do visit them or give them a call and check before lugging that heavy receiver to them. Also, I think they have a higher sticker price than most AV shops that retail the brand. Raon would be a place for some bargains. And I'm sure any AV shops there can accomodate your receiver.
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Dai-ichi Phone Numbers:
Megamall - 6353111
Raon - 7332765/66 or 3148518
Main Ofc - 6454891 to 93
Tech Assistance - 6450969 / 6456639
fyi ;D
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magkano ba ang pinakamura na DTX sub? and ilang models ba meron? :)
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5 piece set of Dai-Ichi (towers, center, bookshelves) costs 7,300 at Raon. Pinag-iisipan pa namin if we should get this or the larger, louder and slightly more expensive euros set (9,000+)
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hello guys,
i'm kinda new in HT systems. can somebody tell me the difference between connecting your speaker directly to your dvd player with 5.1 decoder and using a receiver between your dvd player and 5.1 speaker.
thanks ;D ;D ;D
A DVD player's output is around 2 volts RMS. That's about half a watt into 8-ohm speakers. That's the maximum you can get. Not many speakers will be driven with such an input. So if you want something louder, you'd need an amplifer or a receiver.
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may 5 piece set din ba yung DTX? ::)
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may 5 piece set din ba yung DTX? ::)
Yup. The DTX 9.5 Slim Series Speaker system is a 5 speaker system that costs around 7.5K. ;D
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may euros8 owners ba na full euros8 ang setup (front, surround, center and sub)?
ok ba ang tunog pag all euros8 setup?
im having second thoughts on euros8 sub or dtx 4.series na sub ang magandang ipartner dito...
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Anyone ever owned one of these? It came with Dai-Ichi's HT set I bought about 9 years ago. It says ASW 88 at the back. I used to use it as pc sub when I upgraded my HT but it's all torn up and creating all sort of noises when powered on.
Shown with all the dust and cobwebs in it. ;D ;D ;D
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/ASW%2088%20SUB/01.jpg)
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This is the back, it doesn't have much of the controls found in modern subs though.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/ASW%2088%20SUB/02.jpg)
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may euros8 owners ba na full euros8 ang setup (front, surround, center and sub)?
ok ba ang tunog pag all euros8 setup?
im having second thoughts on euros8 sub or dtx 4.series na sub ang magandang ipartner dito...
I think the DTX 4.series subs are better than the Euros 8 sub. The DTX 4 series subs are front firing and therefore would produce more accurate bass. The Euros subs have a 4th order bandpass enclosure that tend to produce inaacurate bass due to the enclosure design which has a resonant frequency of its own. The Euros 8 would sound more powerful though but again, inaccurate. That's why I've decided to pair the DTX 4 series sub with the Euros. For the sake of ensuring timbre matching, it's best to have all the speakers in the set. The sub wouldn't be that critical in that aspect. But I don't think it would be much of a problem since iisa lang naman ang gumawa nyan e. And experts have always advised to get similar speakers or at least get speakers from the same manufacturer. ;D
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The 8" driver seems to have given up already... :(
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/ASW%2088%20SUB/03.jpg)
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The 8" driver seems to have given up already... :(
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/ASW%2088%20SUB/03.jpg)
Bro, why not get it fixed at Daiichi? Sayang din e. They'd fix it for free. But you'd have to pay for the parts that need to be replaced. ;D
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The 8" driver seems to have given up already... :(
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/ASW%2088%20SUB/03.jpg)
Sir, iyan ba yung driver nung plate amp? wawa naman.. :'(
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Bro, why not get it fixed at Daiichi? Sayang din e. They'd fix it for free. But you'd have to pay for the parts that need to be replaced. ;D
Bro art,
You are right, I did that last week when I went there (2nd flr of Raon Shopping Cntr), they don't have the drivers anymore and will just rewind it, I also brought with me the amp section and the tech guy there said it'd be better to replace it entirely! As always, I will only have to pay for the parts only (the whole amp and speaker repair), free service! ;D
Unfortunately the lady clerk cannot give me a quote at that time. :(
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Control,
Di sa akin yun plate amp, iba ang may ari nun.
Ito sub na ito sa akin, original ng Dai-ichi yun nakakabit pero medyo nagloloko na talaga sya. :(
Sayang talaga....
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/ASW%2088%20SUB/04.jpg)
Kita ko nga gainclone ginamit na amp, pero fixed yun freq. cutoff. Hayyy.....
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Pardon me for my stupidity but after close inspection of the sub, I noticed that the sub's amp is the problem and not the driver. The psu drops so low immediately after power on.
Anyoe experience this problem?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/ASW%2088%20SUB/05.jpg)
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So just to satisfy my worry that the driver is working properly, I cooked up a gc amp complete with it's own low pass filter. Junks from former experiments just to prove my lowly 8" driver still works. ;D
Guess what, it works! ;D Bow ako sa mga Dai-Ichi speakers, matibay talaga at maasahan, yun lang electronics sa amp side ang problem. Well after almost 9 years I think it's time na din to retire and a new amp transplant.
More power to Dai-Ichi!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/ASW%2088%20SUB/06.jpg)
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Bought a set from Moses Aaron kanina! Got it for P7,300, DTX 9.5 towers and center, but the rear bookshelves are euros 6 since the DTX bookshelves are out of stock, same specs and price lang naman daw sabi ni Moses & Aaron (yun ba pangalan nila?).
They had a complete Euros 6 set in stock at P8,600, and we were thinking of buying this set since the difference in price was only P1,300. Pero, sabi ni Moses at Aaron, better pa rin daw yung DTX set since the DTX's smaller drivers have better clarity daw than the larger ones of the euros that are a bit "sabog" daw, and they're a bit suspicious about why Dai-ichi lowered the price of the Euros towers so suddenly and by so much, parang they were insinuating na baka defective daw yung mga ito kaya binaba presyo. Also, since our HT room is medyo small (mga 4x5 m), and di naman kami mahilig sa malakas na bass, sobra na daw yung volume ng Euros, okay na DTX. We tested the sets, and dun sa shop I really couldn't hear any advantage the Euros 6 had over the DTX.
We thought it was really admirable of them to recommend the cheaper set, even if we were prepared to get the costlier one, now that's good salesmanship! Tinanong pa ako, "taga-PinoyDVD ka no?". We also got a Sakura AV-387 for P3,400. Question, pwedo ko kaya ikabit yung Xenon powered subwoofer namin dun sa Sakura amp? Okay na kaya ito for the bass? Di naman talaga ako mahilig sa malakas o maganda na bass eh, kahit sa movies. Sa music naman mostly classical and indie pop lang pinapatugtog ko.
Sabi rin pala nila okay na raw yung gauge 18 na speaker wires kasi maikli lang naman daw yung length from amp to speaker based on the size of our room. Pero hindi ba dapat mas matabang gauge the better?
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Bought a set from Moses Aaron kanina! Got it for P7,300, DTX 9.5 towers and center, but the rear bookshelves are euros 6 since the DTX bookshelves are out of stock, same specs and price lang naman daw sabi ni Moses & Aaron (yun ba pangalan nila?).
They had a complete Euros 6 set in stock at P8,600, and we were thinking of buying this set since the difference in price was only P1,300. Pero, sabi ni Moses at Aaron, better pa rin daw yung DTX set since the DTX's smaller drivers have better clarity daw than the larger ones of the euros that are a bit "sabog" daw, and they're a bit suspicious about why Dai-ichi lowered the price of the Euros towers so suddenly and by so much, parang they were insinuating na baka defective daw yung mga ito kaya binaba presyo. Also, since our HT room is medyo small (mga 4x5 m), and di naman kami mahilig sa malakas na bass, sobra na daw yung volume ng Euros, okay na DTX. We tested the sets, and dun sa shop I really couldn't hear any advantage the Euros 6 had over the DTX.
We thought it was really admirable of them to recommend the cheaper set, even if we were prepared to get the costlier one, now that's good salesmanship! Tinanong pa ako, "taga-PinoyDVD ka no?". We also got a Sakura AV-387 for P3,400. Question, pwedo ko kaya ikabit yung Xenon powered subwoofer namin dun sa Sakura amp? Okay na kaya ito for the bass? Di naman talaga ako mahilig sa malakas o maganda na bass eh, kahit sa movies. Sa music naman mostly classical and indie pop lang pinapatugtog ko.
Sabi rin pala nila okay na raw yung gauge 18 na speaker wires kasi maikli lang naman daw yung length from amp to speaker based on the size of our room. Pero hindi ba dapat mas matabang gauge the better?
Thta's what I love about the people at Moses Aaron, they're very honest. Sino nakausap mo, bro? Si Mike kasi ang kaibigan ko dyan e. He's actually my kumpare now. He first made me choose a Sakura 1600 over the 1800 kasi mas maganda daw. That's when the friendship started. Then he recommended to me the DTX 9.5 system. Then he always gives me special discounts. He also told me that the Euros 8 are much better than the Euros 6. ;D
Now, regarding your question about your Xenon sub, try it at home, if it seems enough na naman at around the middle volume setting, then okay na yan, but if bitin, then you'd have to get a another powered sub soon. And regarding the wire gauges, it's the general rule na mas mataba, the better, but going overboard is also a waste of money. Bass signals are usually the ones that require thicker cables. Maybe you could go a gauge higher than what was recommended to you. ;D
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Jude,
regarding wires and interconnects, checkout the Interconnects section, there are discussions regarding branded and generic/diy wires in there.
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Bought a set from Moses Aaron kanina! Got it for P7,300, DTX 9.5 towers and center, but the rear bookshelves are euros 6 since the DTX bookshelves are out of stock, same specs and price lang naman daw sabi ni Moses & Aaron (yun ba pangalan nila?).
They had a complete Euros 6 set in stock at P8,600, and we were thinking of buying this set since the difference in price was only P1,300. Pero, sabi ni Moses at Aaron, better pa rin daw yung DTX set since the DTX's smaller drivers have better clarity daw than the larger ones of the euros that are a bit "sabog" daw, and they're a bit suspicious about why Dai-ichi lowered the price of the Euros towers so suddenly and by so much, parang they were insinuating na baka defective daw yung mga ito kaya binaba presyo. Also, since our HT room is medyo small (mga 4x5 m), and di naman kami mahilig sa malakas na bass, sobra na daw yung volume ng Euros, okay na DTX. We tested the sets, and dun sa shop I really couldn't hear any advantage the Euros 6 had over the DTX.
We thought it was really admirable of them to recommend the cheaper set, even if we were prepared to get the costlier one, now that's good salesmanship! Tinanong pa ako, "taga-PinoyDVD ka no?". We also got a Sakura AV-387 for P3,400. Question, pwedo ko kaya ikabit yung Xenon powered subwoofer namin dun sa Sakura amp? Okay na kaya ito for the bass? Di naman talaga ako mahilig sa malakas o maganda na bass eh, kahit sa movies. Sa music naman mostly classical and indie pop lang pinapatugtog ko.
Sabi rin pala nila okay na raw yung gauge 18 na speaker wires kasi maikli lang naman daw yung length from amp to speaker based on the size of our room. Pero hindi ba dapat mas matabang gauge the better?
pre san mo nabili tindahan yang DTX mo? pati yung Sakura 387 saan din?
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Control,
Di sa akin yun plate amp, iba ang may ari nun.
Ito sub na ito sa akin, original ng Dai-ichi yun nakakabit pero medyo nagloloko na talaga sya. :(
Sayang talaga....
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/ASW%2088%20SUB/04.jpg)
Kita ko nga gainclone ginamit na amp, pero fixed yun freq. cutoff. Hayyy.....
I've posted some shots on my USAudio in their threads after opening up one. The PSUs are really small for the promised power rating. I think their drivers will benefit a lot from a more powerful amp with a more adequate power supply. Their transfomer size is somewhat similar to what I had when I was building a 30-watt rms mono amp.
Regarding a fixed cutoff frequency point, for as long as you can vary the crossover point of your preamp or receiver below that of the sub's fixed point, I see no problem. The problem begins when your receiver also has a fixed crossover point and is higher than what the sub has, you get a hole in the spectrum.
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av_phile,
true, I've done some checking and the chip used is only capable of 60Wpeak. I tried it using a bigger amp last night and it worked well.
as for the fixed freq cutoff, I think the best is to still have a means of adjusting the subs cutoff freq so it can be used not just for a certain receiver. I have this old habit of moving my subs from HT to hifi so it's a must for me to have freq adjustments and even phasing. But that's not a problem anymore, this old Dai-Ichi sub is subject for a makeover once I had the time.
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All systems go na Dai-ichi DTX-euros 6 set ko! Actually, mukhang ok rin naman tunog ng euros 6 bookshelves. Nagkamali kasi ako ng una at yung front channels yung nakabit ko dun sa kanila, di ko namalayan na dun lang pala sa bookshelves lumalabas yung sound, malakas na kasi.
It's true na medyo lacking nga ng bass yung DTX towers, when I turn off the subwoofer, obvious yung difference sa bass level.
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may pics ba kayo nung DTX tower speakers? i've searched this thread na and wala na akiong makita. :(
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may pics ba kayo nung DTX tower speakers? i've searched this thread na and wala na akiong makita. :(
I do, but di kasi ako marunong mag attach ng pictures. Guys, help? ;D
If you have an e-mail ad, I can send it to you thru that.
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send mo na lang sakin sir!
[email protected]
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Just sent it bro. ;)
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/jefdg/DTX.jpg)
ganda pala ng DTX :o may iba pa bang color nito? ;D
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ganda nga. pwede rin kaya i-sand fill yan gaya ng ginawa ng mga diamond 8.3 owners.
btw, ano nga pala effect ng sandfill sa speaker? thanks
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P7,300 ba yan lahat na nasa picture? pwede ba sakura 387 gamitin dyan?
thanks ;D ;D ;D
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Cross posting this on the DTX-Sakura combo and Dai-ichi threads since different sets of people read them and I want to get as much feedback as I can, I hope that's ok.
After 3 days of trying out my Sakura 387 + DTX towers/center + Euros 6 bokshelves + Xenon subwoofer combo, here are my observations:
Here's how I have it set up in a room approx 9 feet by 12 feet. The towers are placed on the floor around 5 feet apart, around 2 inches away from either side of the TV, around 2 feet from the back wall and 2 feet from the side walls. The center is on top of the TV, around 5 feet above the floor, in the middle of the towers, same distance from the back wall. The sub is on a low table around 1 foot high, at the middle left side of the room, between the towers and surrounds, half a foot away from the left wall. The surrounds are on shelves on either side of the room around 5 feet off the floor and 6 feet away from the towers. Used gauge 14 Audio Pro speaker wire from Deeco for the towers and gauge 14 studio grade speaker wire from ACE hardware for the other speakers. Used Quantum banana plugs from Electronics Depot to connect the speaker wires to the amp. Haven't done bi-wiring yet (parang ang komplikado eh). I'll try to post a pic of the entire setup kapag mas final na. I usually sit around 5 to 6 feet away from the towers, ka-level ng surrounds. Using Skyworth DVD player as source.
Have no complaints regarding the setup's performance for movies. Wow talaga. Medyo telephone-call-sounding nga lang yung dialogue from the center speaker at first pero eventually naging ok na.
Music is another matter though. Firstly, ang boomy ng towers! Medyo nalalakasan ako sa bass, it has the tendency to drown out the other details. Or maybe hindi lang talaga ako sanay since before I've been doing my music listening mostly just through Sennheiser earbuds or a 2.1 Creative multimedia speaker set with the sub turned way down, medyo lo-fi talaga. Based on my perception, I sort of prefer the bass that's coming out of the Xenon sub than what's coming out of the DTX towers. The towers seem to be lacking a bit in the midrange and highs. So I tend to rely on the Sakura's stereo to 3 channel or 5 channel function, this turns on the center and surround speakers which seems to have clearer midranges and highs and are able to compensate for the towers' shortcomings.
Do you guys think that the speakersm especially the towers will still improve after further breaking in or if I try biwiring them? Any volume or bass/treble settings I should try on the Sakura amp? The loudest volume setting I've gone so far on the Sakura is a main volume of -34 for 5.1 AC-3 sources and -28 for stereo. I usually set the surround volume 2 steps lower and center volume two steps higher. I set bass at -2, treble at +2. Sub volume is at 2/3 of maximum.
By the way, 5.1 mixed music sounds a lot better than plain stereo with the setup. So far to me, stereo music sounds a lot better using the euros 6 bookshelves (which I use for the surrounds) than the DTX towers, which makes me wonder what the euros 6 towers must sound like.
So any advice regarding what I can add or change to improve the setup? I'm contemplating using our massive old Sony Laserdisc player to play CDs instead of the DVD player in case it'll be a better source.
Mahirap pala malulong sa hobby na ito, nakaka-obsess! Nagpapaka-audiophile na rin tuloy mga kapatid ko! :) Daming pinapa-canvass sa Raon.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/jefdg/DTX.jpg)
ganda pala ng DTX :o may iba pa bang color nito? ;D
Me black color yan kaso Dai-ichi and label nya and not DTX. They uses the same driver, not sure about the cross-over though. As with the price, pareho lang siguro.
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Jude,
Kung boomy, buksan mo at lagyan ng fiberfill to dampen the bass. yun nga lang trial ang error. plus you may void any warranty you have. :)
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P7,300 ba yan lahat na nasa picture? pwede ba sakura 387 gamitin dyan?
thanks ;D ;D ;D
Yes, to both your questions. :)
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sir arthur nakuha mo na ba yung Euros8 mo? ;)
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Cross posting this on the DTX-Sakura combo and Dai-ichi threads since different sets of people read them and I want to get as much feedback as I can, I hope that's ok.
After 3 days of trying out my Sakura 387 + DTX towers/center + Euros 6 bokshelves + Xenon subwoofer combo, here are my observations:
Here's how I have it set up in a room approx 9 feet by 12 feet. The towers are placed on the floor around 5 feet apart, around 2 inches away from either side of the TV, around 2 feet from the back wall and 2 feet from the side walls. The center is on top of the TV, around 5 feet above the floor, in the middle of the towers, same distance from the back wall. The sub is on a low table around 1 foot high, at the middle left side of the room, between the towers and surrounds, half a foot away from the left wall. The surrounds are on shelves on either side of the room around 5 feet off the floor and 6 feet away from the towers. Used gauge 14 Audio Pro speaker wire from Deeco for the towers and gauge 14 studio grade speaker wire from ACE hardware for the other speakers. Used Quantum banana plugs from Electronics Depot to connect the speaker wires to the amp. Haven't done bi-wiring yet (parang ang komplikado eh). I'll try to post a pic of the entire setup kapag mas final na. I usually sit around 5 to 6 feet away from the towers, ka-level ng surrounds. Using Skyworth DVD player as source.
Have no complaints regarding the setup's performance for movies. Wow talaga. Medyo telephone-call-sounding nga lang yung dialogue from the center speaker at first pero eventually naging ok na.
Music is another matter though. Firstly, ang boomy ng towers! Medyo nalalakasan ako sa bass, it has the tendency to drown out the other details. Or maybe hindi lang talaga ako sanay since before I've been doing my music listening mostly just through Sennheiser earbuds or a 2.1 Creative multimedia speaker set with the sub turned way down, medyo lo-fi talaga. Based on my perception, I sort of prefer the bass that's coming out of the Xenon sub than what's coming out of the DTX towers. The towers seem to be lacking a bit in the midrange and highs. So I tend to rely on the Sakura's stereo to 3 channel or 5 channel function, this turns on the center and surround speakers which seems to have clearer midranges and highs and are able to compensate for the towers' shortcomings.
Do you guys think that the speakersm especially the towers will still improve after further breaking in or if I try biwiring them? Any volume or bass/treble settings I should try on the Sakura amp? The loudest volume setting I've gone so far on the Sakura is a main volume of -34 for 5.1 AC-3 sources and -28 for stereo. I usually set the surround volume 2 steps lower and center volume two steps higher. I set bass at -2, treble at +2. Sub volume is at 2/3 of maximum.
By the way, 5.1 mixed music sounds a lot better than plain stereo with the setup. So far to me, stereo music sounds a lot better using the euros 6 bookshelves (which I use for the surrounds) than the DTX towers, which makes me wonder what the euros 6 towers must sound like.
So any advice regarding what I can add or change to improve the setup? I'm contemplating using our massive old Sony Laserdisc player to play CDs instead of the DVD player in case it'll be a better source.
Mahirap pala malulong sa hobby na ito, nakaka-obsess! Nagpapaka-audiophile na rin tuloy mga kapatid ko! :) Daming pinapa-canvass sa Raon.
First of all bro, this is the major problem with Sakuras, they don't employ the usual 'equal power for all channels' philosophy. Sakuras usually have better and more powerful amps for the front channels than the rest of the channels. Try reducing the bass on your amp and see if it would improve the clarity, this is also where biwiring would help a lot. Kasi in my experience with the DTX 9.5 system, clarity and detail is great, bass is the only weakness. I think it sounds muffled because you're sending too much bass on your fronts. Believe me when I say the problem lies with your amp. You need a lot of tinkering and adjusting to get the desired sound. That's the problem with analog amps. A lot of PDVDers have had a wonderful experience with this set up and I don't see any reason why you wouldn't. Try using those speakers with digital amps and then you'll see, the speakers are just fine. It's the amp that needs adjusting. ;D
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sir arthur nakuha mo na ba yung Euros8 mo? ;)
Not yet bro. On the 25th pa sana kasi I wanna see it muna in real life before I buy it, I'm in Bacolod kasi e. Sa December 25 and 26 pa kasi kami uuwi e. I plan to look at it at the Megamall showroom on that day then buy it from Moses Aaron. But Mike told me closed sila on the 25th and the 26th, so it's either I buy it at Megamall on the 25th/26th or buy it at Moses Aaron on the 27th at ipapadala na lang via cargo. ;D
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Me black color yan kaso Dai-ichi and label nya and not DTX. They uses the same driver, not sure about the cross-over though. As with the price, pareho lang siguro.
They're the same bro, balat lang ang nagkaiba. ;D
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Not yet bro. On the 25th pa sana kasi I wanna see it muna in real life before I buy it, I'm in Bacolod kasi e. Sa December 25 and 26 pa kasi kami uuwi e. I plan to look at it at the Megamall showroom on that day then buy it from Moses Aaron. But Mike told me closed sila on the 25th and the 26th, so it's either I buy it at Megamall on the 25th/26th or buy it at Moses Aaron on the 27th at ipapadala na lang via cargo. ;D
cge sir and i am pretty sure you will like its performance. remind ko pala na u need to bring a car with a big compartment, medyo malaki yung box and speaker that it would not fit inside the trunk. :)
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sir arthur if you go to Megamall and audition the Euros8 can you please post your comments dun sa center speaker nila. I plan to buy one din sana, kaya lang because of the Christmas rush medyo kulang sa time. Thanks in advance. ;D
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We plan on bringing a willy's jeep. But I think what will happen is I'll just audition them then i-oorder ko na lang sa kumpare ko on the 27th tapos ipapaship ko na lang via cargo, kasi ganun din e, makaka-save ako ng 7% sa Moses Aaron, but sarado sila on the 25th and 26th, sa megamall, walang additional 7% discount. Ang mangyayari nyan, parang yung na save ko, mapupunta din sa shipping, kasi baka mahirapan kami sa eroplano, but we'll see. But definitely, I'm buying the whole set, towers, center then 3 pairs of bookshelfs, so audition I will. Thanks, bro. ;D
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sir art. saan branch ba si Moses Aaron, will a walk-in customer be also given a discount. my brother din kasi is looking into buying a whole set of DTX speakers. Thanks ulit. ;)
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Moses Aaron is located at 623 G. Puyat st., Quiapo, Manila. Malapit sya sa Metrobank Raon. You can call them at 7354390. Try looking for Mike and tell him that DJ Art or si pareng Art nya ang nagrefer sa yo. Maybe he'll give you an extra 5% discount. It's always worth buying there at Moses Aaron kasi they usually have the lowest prices around Raon tapos an extra 5% discount pa kung suki. Try mo bro. ;D
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will do sir, thanks for the info. :D
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what's the best way to go to Moses? if coming from blumentritt, via Quiapo or Carriedo (rizal ave.) ?
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i think it will be best if you take Quiapo rather than Carriedo if your going to raon from blumentritt ;)
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anyone tried this with an Onkyo AVR? Musta pairing?
Thanks.
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hi!
i just got back from megamall and got the PL-100cc to give as a gift..
originally my plan was to get the euros 8 center (P1,650 on sale) kaso hindi ito maganda
ngo-ngo talaga siya walang high..sa audition ko, lahat ng high galing sa tower speakers wala talaga sa center..if you guys plan to get the euros 8 center better add konti and get the pl100cc (P2,360) instead kundi baka magsisi kayo.. as we all know, you really cant compare these speakers to higher end speakers pero if youre shopping sa price level ng wharfs (which are kinda on the ngo ngo side..lalo na wh-2's) pwede na itong p.l.'s...
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hi!
i just got back from megamall and got the PL-100cc to give as a gift..
originally my plan was to get the euros 8 center (P1,650 on sale) kaso hindi ito maganda
ngo-ngo talaga siya walang high..sa audition ko, lahat ng high galing sa tower speakers wala talaga sa center..if you guys plan to get the euros 8 center better add konti and get the pl100cc (P2,360) instead kundi baka magsisi kayo.. as we all know, you really cant compare these speakers to higher end speakers pero if youre shopping sa price level ng wharfs (which are kinda on the ngo ngo side..lalo na wh-2's) pwede na itong p.l.'s...
Thanks for the info. Am really planning to get a Euros8 Center, buti na lang you posted your review. I will try to audition the PL Center speaker and hopefully can buy one on the 26th of this month. :)
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vtec3,
dapat talaga i-audition mo, para malaman mo talaga kung maganda o hindi..maganda nga kung pa isolate mo yung center lang para walang "daya".. anyway sa xmas ko pa mapapakinggan ulit ito ng mabuti dahil naibalot ko na kaagad ehehehe! ;D
buti nga you can now buy from the dai-ichi showroom dahil dati di pwede bumili doon dapat sa dealers..siguro naisip nila sayang din yung sales at malaking inconvenience din sa atin..ehehe actually nung nandoon ako siguro may mga 6-8 na pair ng euros 8 tower na for delivery..lakas ng benta nila since for a floorstander mura na iyon for P5+K...sayang di ko na na-audition ng seperate yung mga floorstanders nila..also i really dont like the sound quality of the bass that their subs pump out..yes its loud..pero di bilog, walang kaluluwa ( O0soul....you need that for audio listening...).. parang puro slam lang..siguro pang movies lang talaga, ewan ko lang maybe its the room or the raised audience platform..baka sa ibang situation ok siya..again for the price..who's gonna complain!..just dont audition higher end subs/speakers..thats when its too late and you find yourself in the SARS ward..ehehehe >:D
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hi!
i just got back from megamall and got the PL-100cc to give as a gift..
originally my plan was to get the euros 8 center (P1,650 on sale) kaso hindi ito maganda
ngo-ngo talaga siya walang high..sa audition ko, lahat ng high galing sa tower speakers wala talaga sa center..if you guys plan to get the euros 8 center better add konti and get the pl100cc (P2,360) instead kundi baka magsisi kayo.. as we all know, you really cant compare these speakers to higher end speakers pero if youre shopping sa price level ng wharfs (which are kinda on the ngo ngo side..lalo na wh-2's) pwede na itong p.l.'s...
thanks for this info. balak ko pa naman bilin talaga ang set ng euros8 except for the sub.
may naka pag audition na ba ng surround ng euros8?
regards,
dvh
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vtec3,
dapat talaga i-audition mo, para malaman mo talaga kung maganda o hindi..maganda nga kung pa isolate mo yung center lang para walang "daya".. anyway sa xmas ko pa mapapakinggan ulit ito ng mabuti dahil naibalot ko na kaagad ehehehe! ;D
buti nga you can now buy from the dai-ichi showroom dahil dati di pwede bumili doon dapat sa dealers..siguro naisip nila sayang din yung sales at malaking inconvenience din sa atin..ehehe actually nung nandoon ako siguro may mga 6-8 na pair ng euros 8 tower na for delivery..lakas ng benta nila since for a floorstander mura na iyon for P5+K...sayang di ko na na-audition ng seperate yung mga floorstanders nila..also i really dont like the sound quality of the bass that their subs pump out..yes its loud..pero di bilog, walang kaluluwa ( O0soul....you need that for audio listening...).. parang puro slam lang..siguro pang movies lang talaga, ewan ko lang maybe its the room or the raised audience platform..baka sa ibang situation ok siya..again for the price..who's gonna complain!..just dont audition higher end subs/speakers..thats when its too late and you find yourself in the SARS ward..ehehehe >:D
thanks very much for the inputs. :D
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i went to daiichi megamall today and i was able to audition euros6, euros8 and pl100.
before i went there, im already sure that i'll get euros8 but when i audition all 3 of them. here's what i bought:
front: -> euros8 5560
center -> pl100 2380
surround -> pl100 3200
total of 11,140 (cash)
DTX 4.12 -> 8,100 (card)
di gaano maganda ang center at surround ng euros8/6 as compared sa pl100 center and surround. grabe ang tunog ng pl100 center and surround ganda ng mids and highs. parang ngongo ang euros 8/6 center/surround. i went there around 12 noon today so walang tao so i tried all possible combination sa audition. una flrstander muna then surround then center. then napansin ko yung ngongo na tunog ng euros8/6 center to i asked them to power on the pl100 surround and center. ayun lumabas ang hinihintay ko at nasatisfy na ang tenga ko. ganda sobrang clear.
advice sa mga bibili ng euros8/6 -> try to audition pl100 also. baka di na kayo matuloy sa euros nyo..hehehe
susunod kong target -> gauge 12 na cable. guys medyo OT na san mura bumili ng gauge 12 na cable? meron bang deeco sa mkti area?
dvh
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try landmark, i think php 65.00 for gauge 12 audio pro speaker wires.
HTH.
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dvh,
how is the dtx4.12 compared with the US Audio 512 in music and in movies?
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i went to daiichi megamall today and i was able to audition euros6, euros8 and pl100.
before i went there, im already sure that i'll get euros8 but when i audition all 3 of them. here's what i bought:
front: -> euros8 5560
center -> pl100 2380
surround -> pl100 3200
total of 11,140 (cash)
DTX 4.12 -> 8,100 (card)
di gaano maganda ang center at surround ng euros8/6 as compared sa pl100 center and surround. grabe ang tunog ng pl100 center and surround ganda ng mids and highs. parang ngongo ang euros 8/6 center/surround. i went there around 12 noon today so walang tao so i tried all possible combination sa audition. una flrstander muna then surround then center. then napansin ko yung ngongo na tunog ng euros8/6 center to i asked them to power on the pl100 surround and center. ayun lumabas ang hinihintay ko at nasatisfy na ang tenga ko. ganda sobrang clear.
advice sa mga bibili ng euros8/6 -> try to audition pl100 also. baka di na kayo matuloy sa euros nyo..hehehe
susunod kong target -> gauge 12 na cable. guys medyo OT na san mura bumili ng gauge 12 na cable? meron bang deeco sa mkti area?
dvh
Congrats on your new speakers. Happy listening for the holidays!!! ;D
You can get some 12-gauge OFC silver-coated copper cables of good quality at the Glorietta. I think Spectra and Phasetron have them. Also try Tech Central at Makati Cinema Square.
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i went to daiichi megamall today and i was able to audition euros6, euros8 and pl100.
before i went there, im already sure that i'll get euros8 but when i audition all 3 of them. here's what i bought:
front: -> euros8 5560
center -> pl100 2380
surround -> pl100 3200
total of 11,140 (cash)
DTX 4.12 -> 8,100 (card)
di gaano maganda ang center at surround ng euros8/6 as compared sa pl100 center and surround. grabe ang tunog ng pl100 center and surround ganda ng mids and highs. parang ngongo ang euros 8/6 center/surround. i went there around 12 noon today so walang tao so i tried all possible combination sa audition. una flrstander muna then surround then center. then napansin ko yung ngongo na tunog ng euros8/6 center to i asked them to power on the pl100 surround and center. ayun lumabas ang hinihintay ko at nasatisfy na ang tenga ko. ganda sobrang clear.
advice sa mga bibili ng euros8/6 -> try to audition pl100 also. baka di na kayo matuloy sa euros nyo..hehehe
susunod kong target -> gauge 12 na cable. guys medyo OT na san mura bumili ng gauge 12 na cable? meron bang deeco sa mkti area?
dvh
Sir,
how about pl-100 as fronts?
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magbigay ako ng full feedback sometime 3rd week na ng jan coz i still have to mount the surround sa wall at syempre ilalatag ko pa rin ang cable. di ko magagawa to ngayon kasi daming kailangan puntahan due to holiday reunions...otherwise magagalit esmi ko...
by the way, kulang pa yung binili ko...balak ko bumili pa ng isang set ng pl100 surround or 1 pl100 as surround back kasi ang AVR ko is 6.1. kung set ng pl100 surround bilin ko i parallel ko yung cabling kasi mas mahirap i mount sa wall ang center speaker kasi mabigat ito. so sometime feb or march ko na bilin ang 1 set ng pl 100 surround. so setup ko muna e 5.1 till mabili ko yon.
regards,
dvh
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i went to daiichi megamall today and i was able to audition euros6, euros8 and pl100.
before i went there, im already sure that i'll get euros8 but when i audition all 3 of them. here's what i bought:
front: -> euros8 5560
center -> pl100 2380
surround -> pl100 3200
total of 11,140 (cash)
DTX 4.12 -> 8,100 (card)
di gaano maganda ang center at surround ng euros8/6 as compared sa pl100 center and surround. grabe ang tunog ng pl100 center and surround ganda ng mids and highs. parang ngongo ang euros 8/6 center/surround. i went there around 12 noon today so walang tao so i tried all possible combination sa audition. una flrstander muna then surround then center. then napansin ko yung ngongo na tunog ng euros8/6 center to i asked them to power on the pl100 surround and center. ayun lumabas ang hinihintay ko at nasatisfy na ang tenga ko. ganda sobrang clear.
advice sa mga bibili ng euros8/6 -> try to audition pl100 also. baka di na kayo matuloy sa euros nyo..hehehe
susunod kong target -> gauge 12 na cable. guys medyo OT na san mura bumili ng gauge 12 na cable? meron bang deeco sa mkti area?
dvh
thanks very much for the feedback. malamang na PL100 na din na center yung mabili ko. :)
sir arthurallanj kumusta yung pag audition mo ng Euros? ;)
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bakit ngayon lang kayo post ng review ng Euros 8 center/surround??? :-[kung kailan nakabili na ako ng Euros 8 (F/R/C) last Dec. 22!!!! :'(..di pa naman ako marunong mag-audition..sabagay kasama ko kase si esmi nung bumili ako at mahirap i-justify yung additonal na 1k+ para dun sa center & surround...pero mas satisfy naman si misis (at ako syempre) dun sa date naming ginagamit na speakers (na pinagkukuha lang namin dun sa mga sirang component).....ganun talaga una-una lang pero nasa huli ang pagsisisi...eka nga eh patience is a virtue.. ;)
Masusubukan ko ang lakas ng Euros8 this coming new year..kakalabog ang bahay!hehehehe!! ;D
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Are the Euros and the PL100 timbre matched?
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bakit ngayon lang kayo post ng review ng Euros 8 center/surround??? :-[kung kailan nakabili na ako ng Euros 8 (F/R/C) last Dec. 22!!!! :'(..di pa naman ako marunong mag-audition..sabagay kasama ko kase si esmi nung bumili ako at mahirap i-justify yung additonal na 1k+ para dun sa center & surround...pero mas satisfy naman si misis (at ako syempre) dun sa date naming ginagamit na speakers (na pinagkukuha lang namin dun sa mga sirang component).....ganun talaga una-una lang pero nasa huli ang pagsisisi...eka nga eh patience is a virtue.. ;)
Masusubukan ko ang lakas ng Euros8 this coming new year..kakalabog ang bahay!hehehehe!! ;D
veige13,
actually based sa posting dito sa forum na ito set na rin ang mind ko to buy the whole set of euros8. but based sa posting ni p.dviddy2 na ngongo ang center ng euros8, i decided to audition them in isolation. first HT muna. euros 8, then euros6, then PL100. then video concert naman, euros8, then euros6, then pl100. dito pa lang narinig ko na na parang maganda ang center ng pl100 as compared as euros8/6 center. then i requested na i want to audition yung dvd audio mismo but i want to hear the surround only. so they set it up in such a way that surround spkrs lang ang nakakabit sa avr. don ko narining na ngongo pati ang surround ng euros8/6. sobrang clear ang lumabas na sound sa surround spkr ng pl100 ganda ng mids at highs! para akong nakikinig ng KEF!
then pinakinggan ko ang same cd sa front ng euros8/6 and pl100. mas clear pa rin sa pandinig ko ang front ng pl100 as compared sa euros6/8. but di gaano nalalayo ang front ng euros8 sa pl100! so sabi ko oks na sa akin ang front ng euros8.
then tanong ko sa nag aasist sa akin kung pwede na masetup na ang front is euros8, center is pl100 surround pl100, sabi oks lang daw. ayun lumabas ang hinahanap kong tunog!
ang layo kung puro euros8 and 6 or pl100 setup. actually pinapatay ko pa ang euros8 sub to see kung kaya na ng euros8 front ibigay ang bass at exacto kayang kaya nga nya pero syempre iba pa rin ang may sub iba dating ng bass mo lalo na sa low freq signal...
for me ok na ok na ang combination ng front: euros8, surround: pl100 center:pl100. balanse ang bass from front and mids and highs from surround and center!
guys, subukan nyo pakinggan ang audio music sa pl100 surround spkr nila...actually pwede mo na syang gawing pang front. ang linis, ang kinis ng tunog ng boses. sobra as in sarap sa tenga! comparable sa KEF na narinig ko sa kapitbahay ko!
regards,
dvh
so sabi ko pwede ba na ibahin ang setup...in such a way na ang front k
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ehehehe i told you so...
one thing i like about the pl100 center is that may bass yung dialog..i can say na its better the wharfs center kasi mas balanced ang sound hindi ma-mid (which gives us that ngo ngo effect)..so try ninyo and listen for yourselves! sa euros8/6 center naman i think mahina yung tweeter na nailagay nila or mali yung crossover or something kasi ngo-ngo talaga walang high kaya on sale kaagad..
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veige13,
actually based sa posting dito sa forum na ito set na rin ang mind ko to buy the whole set of euros8. but based sa posting ni p.dviddy2 na ngongo ang center ng euros8, i decided to audition them in isolation. first HT muna. euros 8, then euros6, then PL100. then video concert naman, euros8, then euros6, then pl100. dito pa lang narinig ko na na parang maganda ang center ng pl100 as compared as euros8/6 center. then i requested na i want to audition yung dvd audio mismo but i want to hear the surround only. so they set it up in such a way that surround spkrs lang ang nakakabit sa avr. don ko narining na ngongo pati ang surround ng euros8/6. sobrang clear ang lumabas na sound sa surround spkr ng pl100 ganda ng mids at highs! para akong nakikinig ng KEF!
then pinakinggan ko ang same cd sa front ng euros8/6 and pl100. mas clear pa rin sa pandinig ko ang front ng pl100 as compared sa euros6/8. but di gaano nalalayo ang front ng euros8 sa pl100! so sabi ko oks na sa akin ang front ng euros8.
then tanong ko sa nag aasist sa akin kung pwede na masetup na ang front is euros8, center is pl100 surround pl100, sabi oks lang daw. ayun lumabas ang hinahanap kong tunog!
ang layo kung puro euros8 and 6 or pl100 setup. actually pinapatay ko pa ang euros8 sub to see kung kaya na ng euros8 front ibigay ang bass at exacto kayang kaya nga nya pero syempre iba pa rin ang may sub iba dating ng bass mo lalo na sa low freq signal...
for me ok na ok na ang combination ng front: euros8, surround: pl100 center:pl100. balanse ang bass from front and mids and highs from surround and center!
guys, subukan nyo pakinggan ang audio music sa pl100 surround spkr nila...actually pwede mo na syang gawing pang front. ang linis, ang kinis ng tunog ng boses. sobra as in sarap sa tenga! comparable sa KEF na narinig ko sa kapitbahay ko!
regards,
dvh
so sabi ko pwede ba na ibahin ang setup...in such a way na ang front k
dvh,
sayang ganyan sana tunog ko ngayon..it pays talaga na pagtyagaan mong pakinggan lahat and compare..I had no time kase to audition ang pl100..alam mo na mga misis mainipin pag sa hobby natin..pero pag shoshoping ok lang....hehehe..i'll enjoy nalang what I have (especially the front towers), mas mainam na ito...bless pa rin kahit papaano eh me set-up na...at syempre kapamilya pa rin tayo ng dai-ichi...buy Filipino eka nga!!...regards
ehehehe i told you so...
one thing i like about the pl100 center is that may bass yung dialog..i can say na its better the wharfs center kasi mas balanced ang sound hindi ma-mid (which gives us that ngo ngo effect)..so try ninyo and listen for yourselves! sa euros8/6 center naman i think mahina yung tweeter na nailagay nila or mali yung crossover or something kasi ngo-ngo talaga walang high kaya on sale kaagad..
...ganun ba..gurus any suggestions on how this can be fix???...p.dividdy2..tnx for sharing the observation...
To sir arthurallanj,
Feedback sir kung nakuha mo na ang Euros8 Tower mo??
regards to all............
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..I had no time kase to audition ang pl100..alam mo na mga misis mainipin pag sa hobby natin..pero pag shoshoping ok lang....hehehe..i'll enjoy nalang what I have (especially the front towers), mas mainam na ito...bless pa rin kahit papaano eh me set-up na...at syempre kapamilya pa rin tayo ng dai-ichi...buy Filipino eka nga!!...regards
very true sir :) sa totoo lang mas napagod ako nung nagshopping kami kesa nung binuhat ko yung speakers na nabili ko.
congrats sa new gears nyo sir :) get some war movies for the new year. iwas paputok :)
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sayang ganyan sana tunog ko ngayon..it pays talaga na pagtyagaan mong pakinggan lahat and compare..I had no time kase to audition ang pl100..alam mo na mga misis mainipin pag sa hobby natin..pero pag shoshoping ok lang....hehehe..i'll enjoy nalang what I have (especially the front towers), mas mainam na ito...bless pa rin kahit papaano eh me set-up na...at syempre kapamilya pa rin tayo ng dai-ichi...buy Filipino eka nga!!...regards
sir agree ako diyan sa buy Filipino :D kaya bumili din ako nung Euros8 Tower. So far happy naman ako sa performance nung current set-up ko as compared nung I was using straight Bose speakers. ;)
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sir agree ako diyan sa buy Filipino :D kaya bumili din ako nung Euros8 Tower. So far happy naman ako sa performance nung current set-up ko as compared nung I was using straight Bose speakers. ;)
vtec3,
meron ka na palang euros8 tower eh! oks di ba! by the way ginamit mo bang cable sa tower mo is gauge 12? hirap maghanap na murang gauge 12 na cables sa makati e so im thinking kung ok din ang gauge 14.
thoughts?
regards,
dvh
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vtec3,
meron ka na palang euros8 tower eh! oks di ba! by the way ginamit mo bang cable sa tower mo is gauge 12? hirap maghanap na murang gauge 12 na cables sa makati e so im thinking kung ok din ang gauge 14.
thoughts?
regards,
dvh
Gauge 14 is just fine. If you bi-wire, using two feeds of gauge 14 will do as good as a single gauge 12.
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vtec3,
meron ka na palang euros8 tower eh! oks di ba! by the way ginamit mo bang cable sa tower mo is gauge 12? hirap maghanap na murang gauge 12 na cables sa makati e so im thinking kung ok din ang gauge 14.
thoughts?
regards,
dvh
dvh,
yup happy ako sa Euros8 tower ko and hopefully gets better kasi I guess nasa break-in period pa din ito. I am using a gauge 12 na cables but i guess kagaya ng sabi ni av_phile1 ok na din ang gauge 14. :)
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speaking of break-in what is the best way of doing this sa Euros8 Tower ???
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this is what i did to my DTX
everyday i played 5 songs before i go to work.
first at 25% Volume then 50% then 75% then back to 50% and then back to 25%
then pag uwi same routine, in a month umaawit na speakers ko
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this is what i did to my DTX
everyday i played 5 songs before i go to work.
first at 25% Volume then 50% then 75% then back to 50% and then back to 25%
then pag uwi same routine, in a month umaawit na speakers ko
yung 75% ba ibig sabihin is at 3 o'clock position? have not really tried adjusting my volume past 12 0'clock position, pero if this will make the speakers sound better i will do it. Thanks very much for the info ;)
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dvh,
yup happy ako sa Euros8 tower ko and hopefully gets better kasi I guess nasa break-in period pa din ito. I am using a gauge 12 na cables but i guess kagaya ng sabi ni av_phile1 ok na din ang gauge 14. :)
vtec3,
medyo OT na ito....sorry po sa mod...
grabe hirap maghanap ng gauge 12 na speaker cable! i just arrived from deeco cubao and wala silang stock. meron sila gauge 14 and presyong makati rin at 65/meter at di pa transparent ang cover!
also went to audio shops in ali mall same results...
hirap maghanap ng gauge 12! hayyy kelan ko kaya maikabit ang mga speakers ko!!!
regards,
dvh
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this is what i did to my DTX
everyday i played 5 songs before i go to work.
first at 25% Volume then 50% then 75% then back to 50% and then back to 25%
then pag uwi same routine, in a month umaawit na speakers ko
pano ang 25% or 50% or even 75%. yung volume kasi ng kenwood avr ko infinite ang pihit e. gumagalaw lang ang db...
regards,
dvh
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vtec3,
medyo OT na ito....sorry po sa mod...
grabe hirap maghanap ng gauge 12 na speaker cable! i just arrived from deeco cubao and wala silang stock. meron sila gauge 14 and presyong makati rin at 65/meter at di pa transparent ang cover!
also went to audio shops in ali mall same results...
hirap maghanap ng gauge 12! hayyy kelan ko kaya maikabit ang mga speakers ko!!!
regards,
dvh
im using audio excel gauge 16. ive read in the net that it's ok up to 80 ft. gauge 14 up to 200 ft. gauge 12 for 200 ft up.
sir, why not use the gauge 14? kesa naman nde mo maenjoy yung speakers mo.
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im using audio excel gauge 16. ive read in the net that it's ok up to 80 ft. gauge 14 up to 200 ft. gauge 12 for 200 ft up.
sir, why not use the gauge 14? kesa naman nde mo maenjoy yung speakers mo.
kung no choice talaga i will use gauge 14. nakakita ako sa ACE hardware ng gauge 14 at 50 ft...849.50. pwede na kaya ito para maikabit ko lang ang new speakers ko?
regards,
dvh
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kung no choice talaga i will use gauge 14. nakakita ako sa ACE hardware ng gauge 14 at 50 ft...849.50. pwede na kaya ito para maikabit ko lang ang new speakers ko?
regards,
dvh
make sure that the wire is oxygen free. medyo laki room mo sir ah :)
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pano ang 25% or 50% or even 75%. yung volume kasi ng kenwood avr ko infinite ang pihit e. gumagalaw lang ang db...
regards,
dvh
That's the trend in volume control these days. They operate in the digital domain, with the display showing the db levels. 0db is supposed to mean 100%. Just estimate the percentage levels based on the lowest db point below 0db.
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Yung ACE gauge 14 din gamit ko. Ok naman. Kaso ubos kaagad yung 50 feet (15 meters), center and fronts pa lang. Kailangan ko pa bumili ulit para ma bi-wire kaso wala ng stock. Audio Pro gauge 14 from Deeco naman gamit ko sa surrounds.
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Yung ACE gauge 14 din gamit ko. Ok naman. Kaso ubos kaagad yung 50 feet (15 meters), center and fronts pa lang. Kailangan ko pa bumili ulit para ma bi-wire kaso wala ng stock. Audio Pro gauge 14 from Deeco naman gamit ko sa surrounds.
OT na tayo ah..magagalit na sa atin ang mod... ;D
punta ka sa SM cubao ace hw dami pa gauge 14 na 50ft @849.50.
so ok naman ba ang sound using this speaker wire? euros8/6 user ka rin ba?
regards,
dvh
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vtec3,
medyo OT na ito....sorry po sa mod...
grabe hirap maghanap ng gauge 12 na speaker cable! i just arrived from deeco cubao and wala silang stock. meron sila gauge 14 and presyong makati rin at 65/meter at di pa transparent ang cover!
also went to audio shops in ali mall same results...
hirap maghanap ng gauge 12! hayyy kelan ko kaya maikabit ang mga speakers ko!!!
regards,
dvh
I wasn't aware 12 gauge wires are scarce these days in the areas you mentioned. I suggest Raon in Quiapo then. I really would recommend 12 gauge wires if your receiver terminals can accomodate them regardless of cable length. The difference can become mathematically material starting at around 10-15 meters (mostly in the form of high frequency attenuation and insertion losses). They would likely not be audible for most people above 30, though. ;D I am way past that age, but I still prefer 12 gauge cables. If only for peace of mind. In this hobby, it's better to err on the side of plenty, I always say. ;D Especially if price differences are not so objectionable. Just my thoughts.
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Found gauge 12 speaker wire (Genesis brand) being sold at Electronics Depot in Rob Ermita. In fact, this is the only speaker wire they have in stock. I bought three meters to use for my center speaker. This left me with enough gauge 14 wire to finally bi-wire my front DTX towers. And once I had them both bi-wired and started listening I'm going to have to say that ang TINDI ng improvement! There's really a HUGE boost to the power of the mids and the overall clarity.
By the way, I just turned 26 and maingat ako sa ears ko kasi I play an instrument so I guess may kakayahan pa talaga akong mag-discern. :)
By the way, in bi-wiring, ok lang ba that I'm just using one banana plug to accomodate both wires? Or should I use two separate plugs, one plugged into the other? And should both wires be exactly the same length or ok lang na may konting discrepancy.? Tamad na kasi akong magputol at mag-strip ulit ng wires eh so hindi ko na na-eksakto yung haba.
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I wasn't aware 12 gauge wires are scarce these days in the areas you mentioned. I suggest Raon in Quiapo then. I really would recommend 12 gauge wires if your receiver terminals can accomodate them regardless of cable length. The difference can become mathematically material starting at around 10-15 meters (mostly in the form of high frequency attenuation and insertion losses). They would likely not be audible for most people above 30, though. ;D I am way past that age, but I still prefer 12 gauge cables. If only for peace of mind. In this hobby, it's better to err on the side of plenty, I always say. ;D Especially if price differences are not so objectionable. Just my thoughts.
Good news! i just came back from festival mall and i found a gauge 12 speaker wire harris brand! i bought 20 meters for 75php/meter! laking mura compared sa spectra at 90php/meter!
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Good news! i just came back from festival mall and i found a gauge 12 speaker wire harris brand! i bought 20 meters for 75php/meter! laking mura compared sa spectra at 90php/meter!
sir dvh, congrats on your new toy! mukhang enjoy na enjoy na ang new year! hehehhe ;D ;D ;D
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Sir dvh, san sa festival mo nabili yun wire harris
tnx
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Sir dvh, san sa festival mo nabili yun wire harris
tnx
electronics depot sa festival mall. malapit sa ace hardware!
laking mura compared sa spectra makati...
yung harris oks din kasi transparent din sya at OFC...
dvh
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thanks very much for the feedback. malamang na PL100 na din na center yung mabili ko. :)
sir arthurallanj kumusta yung pag audition mo ng Euros? ;)
Well, first of all, the size of the Euros 8 overwhelmed me, I didn't expect it to be that huge. Kahit na nga ang Euros 6 e, didn't think it was also that big. The sound of the towers were very good in terms of clarity and bass. Although I expected it to have more bass since a lot of fellow PDVDers said it was too boomy. I didn't think it was too boomy, especially when listening to audio. Maybe it's because they were using a Yamaha RX-V630. I listened to all the speakers individually and asked that the sub be turned off. The bookshelf and center Euros reminded me of my Yamaha NS-P50. They did not have the usual apparent highs that typical Daiichis have. I could say this since I have the NS-E50 as my Surrounds and Daiichis as my center surround in my bedroom set up, and listening to audio with DTS neo:6 would definitely show timbre differences between both. Showing yet another proof of the probability that Daiichi is copying Yamaha's NS-555 and NS-777 because of the seemingly change in timbre of the Euros. The Towers were very good, the bookshelf and the center seemed to be at par with the towers but if there's any difference in clarity and bass strength, this is most probably because of the fact that the center and bookshelf are two-way, two-speaker systems while the towers are three-way, four-speaker systems. The PL-100 didn't attract me as much as the Euros. The PL towers didn't sound as good as the Euros, lacking in detail and clarity, this may be because of the fact that the PL has no midrange driver, so definitely, the PL towers are a bit inferior if compared with the Euros towers. The PL center and bookshelf have more apparent highs compared with the Euros, making me conclude that the Euros are perfect for Yamaha amps which are usually bright. All in all, if the DTX 9.5 system was a great bang for the buck bargain, the Euros 8 is even moreso. More personal reviews comong soon after my Euros 8 system arrives this Wednesday, I went to Manila kasi on the 25th and 26th e, and auditioned the speakers then, but only order/purchased them on the 28th, so hinihintay ko pa sya dumating and break it in. ;D
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sir arthur, thanks very much for your initial feedback. will await your full review and delay my purchase of the center speakers. ;)
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Wala ba ditong may alam ng nagbebenta ng mura lang na Dai-Ichi cubes? I want to use the cubes kasi as satellites for my condo mini-HT setup. P1,350 sila sa Robinsons Ermita. Magkano ba going price nito sa Raon? Any cheap but good alternatives to the Dai-ichi cubes that you guys know of? Maliit lang na speakers na madaling i-drive.
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Wala ba ditong may alam ng nagbebenta ng mura lang na Dai-Ichi cubes? I want to use the cubes kasi as satellites for my condo mini-HT setup. P1,350 sila sa Robinsons Ermita. Magkano ba going price nito sa Raon? Any cheap but good alternatives to the Dai-ichi cubes that you guys know of? Maliit lang na speakers na madaling i-drive.
To my knowledge, at Moses Aaron you can get a pair of Audiofile SA-3s for about a thousand, the last time I bought a pair, I got it for 1,008 pesos. I'm quite certain you can still get it for about that price. Even though I have bought 4 pairs of those SA-3s and even got a pair of LS-32s, I wouldn't suggest getting them. I would suggest getting a pair of Egg Sattelites or any small two-way speaker system or bookshelf speakers from Daiichi. Why? These cubes (SA-3) can only go as low as 300Hz, while the LS-32s only as low as 200Hz. And this would mean getting localized bass reproduction from your sub if you do set it to go up to 200 or 300 Hz. I suggest getting a pair that could go at least as low as 100Hz. Aside from the Egg Sats I mentioned, try the USAudio US-11C B Bookshelf speakers or may be the DTX 9.5 Bookshelf. Then Daiichi also has this speaker that is shaped like a pear, I forgot the model no., but it's displayed at the Raon Showroom, which is also a two-way speaker system, but like the Egg Sats, has an extra tweeter at the back making it more like a dipolar speaker. HIH. ;D
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By the way, in bi-wiring, ok lang ba that I'm just using one banana plug to accomodate both wires? Or should I use two separate plugs, one plugged into the other? And should both wires be exactly the same length or ok lang na may konting discrepancy.? Tamad na kasi akong magputol at mag-strip ulit ng wires eh so hindi ko na na-eksakto yung haba.
On the amp/receiver side, unless your amp/receiver has dual speaker terminals per channel to accommodate bi-wiring per channel, you have no choice but to use one banana terminal for both wire feeds.
At the speaker terminal, you have to use separate banana plugs for highs and lows when bi-wiring. Make sure you take out the jumper plates connecting the high and low speaker terminals.
In bi-wring, same wire length is the norm. Small discrepancies won't matter much in a typical room.
Ideally, from a mathematical point, all wire lengths for your center, fronts and rears should be identical. But don't coil the excess wires so as not to induce inductances that will attenuate the highs.
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Sir AV,
Happy New Year po! Just wanna ask if it seems practical to convert a non Biwirable speaker system into a Biwirable one by utilizing the original crossover but separating them by cuttting the circuit and attaching a new terminal to each? I plan to convert the Euros 8, which is non biwirable, to one which is. But since this is a 3-way speaker system, would it be better to make it "TRI-WIRABLE"? Making a separate terminal each for the high, the mid and the low. Hope you can indulge my brainstorm. Thanks. ;D
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On the amp/receiver side, unless your amp/receiver has dual speaker terminals per channel to accommodate bi-wiring per channel, you have no choice but to use one banana terminal for both wire feeds.
At the speaker terminal, you have to use separate banana plugs for highs and lows when bi-wiring. Make sure you take out the jumper plates connecting the high and low speaker terminals.
My amp only has one terminal per channel but the banana plugs I'm using kasi (Quantum) you can plug one into another, so that's what I meant when I asked about using separate plugs for each wire feed.
No problem with the speaker terminal, I took out the jumper plates, etc.
To my knowledge, at Moses Aaron you can get a pair of Audiofile SA-3s for about a thousand, the last time I bought a pair, I got it for 1,008 pesos. I'm quite certain you can still get it for about that price. Even though I have bought 4 pairs of those SA-3s and even got a pair of LS-32s, I wouldn't suggest getting them. I would suggest getting a pair of Egg Sattelites or any small two-way speaker system or bookshelf speakers from Daiichi. Why? These cubes (SA-3) can only go as low as 300Hz, while the LS-32s only as low as 200Hz. And this would mean getting localized bass reproduction from your sub if you do set it to go up to 200 or 300 Hz. I suggest getting a pair that could go at least as low as 100Hz. Aside from the Egg Sats I mentioned, try the USAudio US-11C B Bookshelf speakers or may be the DTX 9.5 Bookshelf. Then Daiichi also has this speaker that is shaped like a pear, I forgot the model no., but it's displayed at the Raon Showroom, which is also a two-way speaker system, but like the Egg Sats, has an extra tweeter at the back making it more like a dipolar speaker. HIH.
I already have a DTX/euros 6 set kasi for our main HT setup. This setup that I'm planning on using the cubes for is just for a very small condo room where I figure that the surround effects may be barely appreciable. I already have a leftover powered sub so I guess bass won't be much of a problem. And the fronts and center speakers I've been using are already pretty good already so I was thinking of skimping on the surrounds, both in terms of size and price. As in REALLY skimping, not much more than 1K per pair and not much larger than the cubes would be ideal. What did you do with all your pairs of cube speakers? How much are the LS-32s or the Egg sats?
Last time I went to Raon, DTX bookshelves were out of stock everywhere. Anyway, they're still a bit too big and pricey for my purposes.
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guys,
i just went back to megamall to pick up the speakers i bought last week. and according to the salespeople there, they already received management directive to bring back the prices of euros8/6 to their original prices which is double of their current prices.
due to this i bought an extra pair of euros8 surround spkrs (i'll use it as my surround back left-right) that i will parallel-connect to my 6.1 avr to make it 7.1 speaker setup.
regards,
dvh
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to jude,
The egg sats costs P1500 when i bought a pair at knight audio, but that was way back late 2003. I use them as surrounds in my setup. The sats are rated at 8 ohms and can go low as 140hz. The sensitivity is impressive, its rated at 92 db. Hope this helps. :)
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guys,
i just went back to megamall to pick up the speakers i bought last week. and according to the salespeople there, they already received management directive to bring back the prices of euros8/6 to their original prices which is double of their current prices.
this is not a good news, i have yet to buy my center speaker. dvh would you know when they will implement the new prices. thanks.
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guys,
i just went back to megamall to pick up the speakers i bought last week. and according to the salespeople there, they already received management directive to bring back the prices of euros8/6 to their original prices which is double of their current prices.
due to this i bought an extra pair of euros8 surround spkrs (i'll use it as my surround back left-right) that i will parallel-connect to my 6.1 avr to make it 7.1 speaker setup.
regards,
dvh
Now that worries me. Baka di ako umabot ah.
Bossing, nagbigay ba sila ng date kung kailan ang price increase ng Euro 8?
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floor stander ng daichi ilang watts and mag kano po
salamat O0 O0
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guys,
i just went back to megamall to pick up the speakers i bought last week. and according to the salespeople there, they already received management directive to bring back the prices of euros8/6 to their original prices which is double of their current prices.
due to this i bought an extra pair of euros8 surround spkrs (i'll use it as my surround back left-right) that i will parallel-connect to my 6.1 avr to make it 7.1 speaker setup.
regards,
dvh
They told me nung nandun ako on the 26th na babalik nga daw sa dating prices nya yung Euros e. Sumobra lang daw kasi talaga ang stocks nila. I still need to get two more pairs, one pair for the 6th and 7th channel back surrounds and the other pair for the presence channels, sana di ako maabutan ng price increase.
Bro dvh,
Would you be so kind as to ask exactly when they are going to implement this bringing back of the prices, please? Thanks. ;D
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I already have a DTX/euros 6 set kasi for our main HT setup. This setup that I'm planning on using the cubes for is just for a very small condo room where I figure that the surround effects may be barely appreciable. I already have a leftover powered sub so I guess bass won't be much of a problem. And the fronts and center speakers I've been using are already pretty good already so I was thinking of skimping on the surrounds, both in terms of size and price. As in REALLY skimping, not much more than 1K per pair and not much larger than the cubes would be ideal. What did you do with all your pairs of cube speakers? How much are the LS-32s or the Egg sats?
Last time I went to Raon, DTX bookshelves were out of stock everywhere. Anyway, they're still a bit too big and pricey for my purposes.
I still have 3 pairs of SA-3s at home, and soon I will have to dispose of them, but I plan to keep at least a pair of those SA-3s and my LS-32. Maybe I can sell 2 pairs to you soon but my prob is that I'm in Bacolod pa, so I still have to ship it to you if ever.
The LS-32 cost me about 1,700 dati. Yes, it seems very expensive if compared with the SA-3. But these are very heavy, way heavier than the SA-3 and has a lower frequency response and also has a steel grill.
The last time I asked, that was about 3 months ago, Moses Aaron could give you a pair of Egg Sats for about 1.7K, very little difference in price with the DTX 9.5 Bookshelf, which you could get for about 2.1K. And the 9.5 is definitely a better speaker.
Now, the reason why I'm suggesting that you get speakers that can go at least as low as 100Hz is the fact that once you feed your sub with a signal above 100Hz, it's gonna be localized, meaning, if all the other channels have a signal below 300Hz (If indeed you'd be using the SA-3) the sound is gonna heard coming from the direction where the sub is located. If you set your sub to have a 100Hz cutoff, there's gonna be a "hole" in the frequency spectrum that your system produces. Let's say your system produces a 150Hz signal and you're using all SA-3s and a sub with a 100Hz cutoff, you wouldn't be hearing it, 'coz no speaker in your system is audibly reproducing it. So what I'm really suggesting is, get a speaker, any inexpensive speaker for that matter, that can go at least as low as 100Hz. HIH. ;D
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They told me nung nandun ako on the 26th na babalik nga daw sa dating prices nya yung Euros e. Sumobra lang daw kasi talaga ang stocks nila. I still need to get two more pairs, one pair for the 6th and 7th channel back surrounds and the other pair for the presence channels, sana di ako maabutan ng price increase.
Bro dvh,
Would you be so kind as to ask exactly when they are going to implement this bringing back of the prices, please? Thanks. ;D
I called daiichi today and they told me that they already got the verbal confirmation from mngt to bring back the prices of euros to original prices and they are just waiting for the formal (black/white) document from mgnt for them to implement it. They cant give the exact date as they obviously dont know that but they have a feeling that it will be implemented next week or the next.
regards,
dvh
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this is not a good news, i have yet to buy my center speaker. dvh would you know when they will implement the new prices. thanks.
To help you decide sooner, I personally think the Euros 8 center is great, and the bookshelfs, too. What I like about it the most is the way it reproduces high frequencies. Clear but not exaggerated, hindi sya puro "ssssssssss". Now with regards to the "ngongo" issue that Sir DVH raised, yes, they have weaker bass and treble reproduction if compared with the Towers. The reason may be the fact that the center and bookshelf Euros 8 don't have a midrange driver and has smaller mid/bass drivers. They possibly may be using similar crossovers with the towers, center and bookshelf speakers instead of designing an entirely different crossover to reproduce the same timbre that the towers have to compensate for the fact that both center and bookshelf speakers are just two-way systems. But this is where the center equalizer of our Yamaha 650s come in handy. We can increase lower and higher frequencies and decrease mid frequencies so as not to sound "ngongo". Besides, based on my own personal taste, I don't really like a center that has too much bass. I'd like my system to sound natural. All in all, at least with regards to my personal taste, the Euros 8 system is great, I also couldn't really argue with Sir DVH since I wasn't really able to audition the PL100 series extensively. The real reason why I decided to get the entire Euros 8 system was to ensure timbre matching. It may seem the PL100 and the Euros are brothers with different characteristics. Or maybe, the towers were just too good for the center and bookshelfs. Just me. ;D
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Sir AV,
Happy New Year po! Just wanna ask if it seems practical to convert a non Biwirable speaker system into a Biwirable one by utilizing the original crossover but separating them by cuttting the circuit and attaching a new terminal to each? I plan to convert the Euros 8, which is non biwirable, to one which is. But since this is a 3-way speaker system, would it be better to make it "TRI-WIRABLE"? Making a separate terminal each for the high, the mid and the low. Hope you can indulge my brainstorm. Thanks. ;D
That can be done. As long as you have the patience and the tools. And you apparently know how. Though I think that would invalidate your warranties on the speaker. You plan to convert all your Euros? The effort is fine but may not be commensurate to the benefits. Bi-amplification would yield more perceptible benefits though.
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floor stander ng daichi ilang watts and mag kano po
salamat O0 O0
The DTX 9.5 Towers cost around 3,600. 140 Watts Max RMS. Freq. Resp.:65Hz~20KHz. ;D
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That can be done. As long as you have the patience and the tools. And you apparently know how. Though I think that would invalidate your warranties on the speaker.
Thanks for validating my brainstorm sir. Enjoy ko muna sya in the meantime. Just wanted somebody I trust to say that it won't destroy my speakers, hehe. Someday, itu-tweak ko sya. ;D
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Thanks Sir DVH, I'm also waiting for my kumpare's reply regarding this inquiry. He's gonna be asking the agent daw. ;)
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Bro dvh,
Would you be so kind as to ask exactly when they are going to implement this bringing back of the prices, please? Thanks. ;D
Sir Arthur, just got back from Daiichi Megamall and bought the Euros8 center. Nag panic ako sa kanilang price increase he he he. I asked them kailan talaga implement ang bago price and they told me most probably daw itong dadating na weekend. ;)
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To help you decide sooner, I personally think the Euros 8 center is great, and the bookshelfs, too. What I like about it the most is the way it reproduces high frequencies. Clear but not exaggerated, hindi sya puro "ssssssssss". Now with regards to the "ngongo" issue that Sir DVH raised, yes, they have weaker bass and treble reproduction if compared with the Towers. The reason may be the fact that the center and bookshelf Euros 8 don't have a midrange driver and has smaller mid/bass drivers. They possibly may be using similar crossovers with the towers, center and bookshelf speakers instead of designing an entirely different crossover to reproduce the same timbre that the towers have to compensate for the fact that both center and bookshelf speakers are just two-way systems. But this is where the center equalizer of our Yamaha 650s come in handy. We can increase lower and higher frequencies and decrease mid frequencies so as not to sound "ngongo". Besides, based on my own personal taste, I don't really like a center that has too much bass. I'd like my system to sound natural. All in all, at least with regards to my personal taste, the Euros 8 system is great, I also couldn't really argue with Sir DVH since I wasn't really able to audition the PL100 series extensively. The real reason why I decided to get the entire Euros 8 system was to ensure timbre matching. It may seem the PL100 and the Euros are brothers with different characteristics. Or maybe, the towers were just too good for the center and bookshelfs. Just me. ;D
i auditioned both the Euros8 and PL 100 center speaker kanina at Megamall, personally mas nagustohan ko din yung sound ng Euros8 so i decided to get one before they increase the price. Last pair na yung nakuha ko na stock nila, they are not sure kung yung dadating will also be sold at 1,650. ;)
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My kumpare just texted me and said, according to the agent, hanggang last week of January na lang daw ang present prices ng Euros. AAAAAAARRRRGGHH!!!! Kelangang makahanap na ng 5,300 so I can get 2 pairs of Euros 8 Bookshelfs before the prices increase. :'( :'( :P ???
TO EVERYBODY CONCERNED:
HANGGANG LAST WEEK OF JANUARY NA LANG ANG MALILIGAYANG ARAW NATIN. HU HU HU. :( >:( ???
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i auditioned both the Euros8 and PL 100 center speaker kanina at Megamall, personally mas nagustohan ko din yung sound ng Euros8 so i decided to get one before they increase the price. Last pair na yung nakuha ko na stock nila, they are not sure kung yung dadating will also be sold at 1,650. ;)
That's great bro. Besides, I also personally like the way the Euros look more than the PL. And think about matching. Now, I think we also have the same dilemma, di ba you also have the Yamaha 650? Paano na ang surrounds at presence pag di tayo umabot??? hu hu hu. I still have to get 2 more pairs. Gotta find some money, about 5K, hehehe. ;D
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My kumpare just texted me and said, according to the agent, hanggang last week of January na lang daw ang present prices ng Euros. AAAAAAARRRRGGHH!!!! Kelangang makahanap na ng 5,300 so I can get 2 pairs of Euros 8 Bookshelfs before the prices increase. :'( :'( :P ???
TO EVERYBODY CONCERNED:
HANGGANG LAST WEEK OF JANUARY NA LANG ANG MALILIGAYANG ARAW NATIN. HU HU HU. :( >:( ???
sad news talaga ito sir art, sana naman they will reconsider, pero law of supply and demand kaya siguro they decided to increase price. para tuloy na paisip na din akong kumuha ng Euros8 bookshelfs kahit stock ko lang muna :)
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use your credit card ;D!
5k is not that much! konting lambing lang yan kay kumander!
regards,
dvh
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ano yung counterpart ng dtx 9.5b (bookshelf speakers)? kse wala na akong mahanap na dtx bookshelfs sa raon...i need one lang para sa rear center ko para ma kumpleto na yung 6.1 na set-up ko.
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ano yung counterpart ng dtx 9.5b (bookshelf speakers)? kse wala na akong mahanap na dtx bookshelfs sa raon...i need one lang para sa rear center ko para ma kumpleto na yung 6.1 na set-up ko.
try asking for pl100, euros6 and euros8...
regards,
dvh
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Bro dvh,
Payag na daw si kumander. As long as lahat daw ng sweldo ko ibibigay ko sa kanya for two months (I only give kasi yung para sa bahay at para sa account namin e, hehe). This time daw, I should give the rest of my salary to her and sya na ang bibili ng dalawang pares, pati daw ang kinikita ko sa mga tugtog ko, dapat ibigay ko rin daw. Haaaay... The things we do for love... Love of Home Theater that is.... He he he he. Kawawa ako nito for 2 months. :'( :'( :'( ;D ;D.
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ano yung counterpart ng dtx 9.5b (bookshelf speakers)? kse wala na akong mahanap na dtx bookshelfs sa raon...i need one lang para sa rear center ko para ma kumpleto na yung 6.1 na set-up ko.
If you like the idea of using a center speaker for your 6th channel, then why not get a 9.5 center? I don't think you can buy just one piece for the 9.5 Bookshelf unless you get somebody who also needs only one to buy it with you. ;D
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Does anybody here own a pair of Euros 6 Bookshelf speakers? Can you differentiate the Euros 6 from the Euros 8? Thanks in advance. ;D
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Bro dvh,
Payag na daw si kumander. As long as lahat daw ng sweldo ko ibibigay ko sa kanya for two months (I only give kasi yung para sa bahay at para sa account namin e, hehe). This time daw, I should give the rest of my salary to her and sya na ang bibili ng dalawang pares, pati daw ang kinikita ko sa mga tugtog ko, dapat ibigay ko rin daw. Haaaay... The things we do for love... Love of Home Theater that is.... He he he he. Kawawa ako nito for 2 months. :'( :'( :'( ;D ;D.
sabi sa yo e konting lambing lang yan...ako nga e nung ginamit ko yung card ko sa dtx 4.12 e lambing at treat kay esmi kumain sa labas para pumayag... ;D
dvh.
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ano yung counterpart ng dtx 9.5b (bookshelf speakers)? kse wala na akong mahanap na dtx bookshelfs sa raon...i need one lang para sa rear center ko para ma kumpleto na yung 6.1 na set-up ko.
bro
6.1 din ang avr ko pero ang ginawa ko is yung 1pair of pl100 of as my surround back parallel-connected so ang labas e parang 7.1 na rin.
so ang setup ko ganto:
euros8 flrstnder AVR 6.1 euros8 florstnder
euros8 surround viewing position euros8 surround
pl100 sur back pl 100 sur back
but later on i will try to interchange euros8 and pl100 as my surround and surround back tingnan ko ang effect.
regards,
dvh
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sabi sa yo e konting lambing lang yan...ako nga e nung ginamit ko yung card ko sa dtx 4.12 e lambing at treat kay esmi kumain sa labas para pumayag... ;D
dvh.
Ha ha ha... You devil you..... ;D
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To help you decide sooner, I personally think the Euros 8 center is great, and the bookshelfs, too. What I like about it the most is the way it reproduces high frequencies. Clear but not exaggerated, hindi sya puro "ssssssssss". Now with regards to the "ngongo" issue that Sir DVH raised, yes, they have weaker bass and treble reproduction if compared with the Towers. The reason may be the fact that the center and bookshelf Euros 8 don't have a midrange driver and has smaller mid/bass drivers. They possibly may be using similar crossovers with the towers, center and bookshelf speakers instead of designing an entirely different crossover to reproduce the same timbre that the towers have to compensate for the fact that both center and bookshelf speakers are just two-way systems. But this is where the center equalizer of our Yamaha 650s come in handy. We can increase lower and higher frequencies and decrease mid frequencies so as not to sound "ngongo". Besides, based on my own personal taste, I don't really like a center that has too much bass. I'd like my system to sound natural. All in all, at least with regards to my personal taste, the Euros 8 system is great, I also couldn't really argue with Sir DVH since I wasn't really able to audition the PL100 series extensively. The real reason why I decided to get the entire Euros 8 system was to ensure timbre matching. It may seem the PL100 and the Euros are brothers with different characteristics. Or maybe, the towers were just too good for the center and bookshelfs. Just me. ;D
Sir Arthur, just got back from Daiichi Megamall and bought the Euros8 center. Nag panic ako sa kanilang price increase he he he. I asked them kailan talaga implement ang bago price and they told me most probably daw itong dadating na weekend. ;)
uyy..me mapapagtanungan na ako with the same combination as mine sa katauhan nina boss arthurallanj & vtec3...congaratulations sa inyong dalawa sir!!medyo OT but, o.k lang ba gumamit ng ga16 for the center and bookshelf??and ga14 for the towers??thanks for the help in advance...
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ay mali nalimutan kong ilagay ang center!
so ang setup ko ganto:
euros8 flrstnder pl100 center euros8 florstnder
euros8 surround viewing position euros8 surround
pl100 sur back pl 100 sur back
regards,
dvh
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dvh,
yung sub mo do you place it very near your flrstndr or directly below your center speaker? ;)
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dvh,
yung sub mo do you place it very near your flrstndr or directly below your center speaker? ;)
yung sub ko katabi ng flrstander ko. ganto ang setup...
DTX 4.12 euros8 flrstander pl100 center euros8 flrstander
euros8 surround listening/viewing position euros8 surround
pl100 surr back pl100 surr back
dvh
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will there be a difference kaya in performance kung yung sub is positioned just under the center speakers? ganun kasi ngayon yung sa akin and have not tried putting it sa tabi ng floorstander because din sa limitation ng space. thanks. ;D
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That's great bro. Besides, I also personally like the way the Euros look more than the PL. And think about matching. Now, I think we also have the same dilemma, di ba you also have the Yamaha 650? Paano na ang surrounds at presence pag di tayo umabot??? hu hu hu. I still have to get 2 more pairs. Gotta find some money, about 5K, hehehe. ;D
sir art yung amps ko is Yamaha HTR 5240. sa US nabili ito during Thanksgiving Sale kaya mura ko lang nakuha :D. Although I am seriously contemplating na bumili ng Euros8 surrounds at itabi lang muna habang mura pa. I would also most likely upgrade my amps hopefully soon.
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will there be a difference kaya in performance kung yung sub is positioned just under the center speakers? ganun kasi ngayon yung sa akin and have not tried putting it sa tabi ng floorstander because din sa limitation ng space. thanks. ;D
Yes. Subwoofers move around a lot of air and that being the case, they need to breathe. I'm quite certain your sub is now contained in a rack that constraints it. What may be happening right now is your rack panels and other equiptment near the sub are reverberating so much that your bass doesn't sound clean anymore. HIH. ;D
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sir art yung amps ko is Yamaha HTR 5240. sa US nabili ito during Thanksgiving Sale kaya mura ko lang nakuha :D. Although I am seriously contemplating na bumili ng Euros8 surrounds at itabi lang muna habang mura pa. I would also most likely upgrade my amps hopefully soon.
Hey, you've already got a good amp, as long as it makes you happy, upgrading shouldn't be an issue in the 'very soon' category. ;D
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Yes. Subwoofers move around a lot of air and that being the case, they need to breathe. I'm quite certain your sub is now contained in a rack that constraints it. What may be happening right now is your rack panels and other equiptment near the sub are reverberating so much that your bass doesn't sound clean anymore. HIH. ;D
will try to re-arrange yung placement nung sub ko over the weekend para would really gauge yung performance ng Euros. Thanks very much. :)
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i was able to setup my new euros8/pl100 speakers a week ago, and i listen to it on the average of 6 hours a day. 1.5 - 2 hours in the morning (good thing that i usually left the house around 10am to go to work!) and around 3.5 - 4 hours in the evening (starting around 10:30pm onwards). and last weekend i was able to do a marathon listening starting around 7am - 12 midnight (both sat and sun)! walang patayan. from watching DVDs, listening to audio CDs, FM stereo, connecting it to my laptop and/or desktop and listening to my very huge collection of MP3 (downloaded from MIRC channels!) and also using it as my speakers when playing "Need for Speed Underground 2" from my laptop/desktop. Very superb sounding speakers, kala mo daming nagdadaan racing cars sa harap mo! super satisfied ako sa sound and setup considering di pa fully break-in yung speakers! yung DTX 4.12 grabe sa dagundong parang may nagbabarilan sa baranggay namin nung nanood ako ng saving private ryan lupit talaga! ma kumatok sa amin tapos tinanong kung ano nangyayari sabi ko im testing my new HT setup so ayun yung katabi kong bahay sa left and right nakipanood na tapos request ako sagot nila beers at pulutan. SOLVE! buti na lang di ako sumama kay kumander sa kasal ng barkada nya nung saturday hehehe.
regards,
dvh
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Here's another story. We've been residing in our house since August 2004, ever since naglipat kami, nakakabit na ang home theater. Ours is a duplex unit, so we share a wall with the neighbor. Never got any complaint from them. But the first time they came knocking at my door to complain was nung ikinabit ko for the first time ang Euros. Hhhhhmmmm. ??? ::). Must be good. ;D ;D
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how long do i need to break in my speakers in terms of number of hours to enjoy it to its fullest break-in capacity?
also, when im listening to music, i usually set the crossover of my DTX4.12 at around 80-90mhz and then when watching DVDs i set it at around 100-120mhz. my question is what is the right freq so i will change it when listening to music or watching a DVD?
coz what i did in my mitsubishi adventure's sole 12inch ported sub is set it at 80mhz to enjoy it and this was based on car audio forums...
regards,
dvh
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Sir DVH,
Do you happen to know the height of your Euro8? Pwedi po malaman dimension nya?
Tuloy na pagpunta ko sa Raon this saturday, I hope dipa sila magtataas ng price by that team. Gagamitin ko na lang na surround ang DTX tower ko O0
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got this info from Daiichi website. ;) suggestion is bring a vehicle na malaki ang compartment (SUV/AUV) di kasya yung tower sa kotse, fyi.
Dimensions 320 D x 255 W x 1100 H
Weight 21.0 Kgs./pc.
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Sir DVH,
Do you happen to know the height of your Euro8? Pwedi po malaman dimension nya?
Tuloy na pagpunta ko sa Raon this saturday, I hope dipa sila magtataas ng price by that team. Gagamitin ko na lang na surround ang DTX tower ko O0
Don't worry bro, kumpare ko at Moses Aaron confirmed from a Daiichi agent that until the last week of January pa. After that, balik na sa dati. Oh and aah, Moses Aaron has got the lowest base prices as far as I know, and they can give you an extra 5% discount, just in case you wanna know. ;D
Already purchased two more pairs of Euros 8 bookshelf speakers last friday. Expecting it to arrive this week. Natakot kasing maabutan ng pagtaas ng presyo. Nag-panic. He he he. ;D
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got this info from Daiichi website. ;) suggestion is bring a vehicle na malaki ang compartment (SUV/AUV) di kasya yung tower sa kotse, fyi.
Dimensions 320 D x 255 W x 1100 H
Weight 21.0 Kgs./pc.
you really need SUV/AUV kung bibili ka ng Euros. Nung time na pinick up ko sya sa megamall, dala ko adventure so isipin mo ang inuwi ko non:
1 pair of euros8 flrstander tower
1 pair of euros8 surround
1 pair of pl100 surround
1 center of pl100
1 DTX 4.12 sub...
kasyang kasya sa likod ng adventure. i need to fold the second layer seats of adventure para sakto lang. nga pala yung 1/4 nung likod ng adventure ko sakop ng car ported sub ko na 12" din yon...laki rin ng MDF non...1/4 ng likod ng adventure pag di naka fold ang 2nd row seats....
regards,
dvh
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Don't worry bro, kumpare ko at Moses Aaron confirmed from a Daiichi agent that until the last week of January pa. After that, balik na sa dati. Oh and aah, Moses Aaron has got the lowest base prices as far as I know, and they can give you an extra 5% discount, just in case you wanna know. ;D
Already purchased two more pairs of Euros 8 bookshelf speakers last friday. Expecting it to arrive this week. Natakot kasing maabutan ng pagtaas ng presyo. Nag-panic. He he he. ;D
Ayos! Boss, bigyan mo naman ako ng referral para me discount ako and show me the place kung saan Moses Aaron. Sa Knight Audio kasi ako dati bumili eh. PM me na lang your name, thanks :)
Dalawang pair pala kukunin namin...na-convince ko friend ko. PM me na rin number store para makapag reserve na kami :)
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Ayos! Boss, bigyan mo naman ako ng referral para me discount ako and show me the place kung saan Moses Aaron. Sa Knight Audio kasi ako dati bumili eh. PM me na lang your name, thanks :)
Dalawang pair pala kukunin namin...na-convince ko friend ko. PM me na rin number store para makapag reserve na kami :)
Moses Aaron is along G. Puyat st. beside Metrobank Raon. Their phone is (02)7354390. Bro, to get an extra 5% discount, look for Mike Macapagal, just drop my name, pakisabi si DJ Art o kumpareng Arthur nya ang nag-refer sa yo. ;D
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Moses Aaron is along G. Puyat st. beside Metrobank Raon. Their phone is (02)7354390. Bro, to get an extra 5% discount, look for Mike Macapagal, just drop my name, pakisabi si DJ Art o kumpareng Arthur nya ang nag-refer sa yo. ;D
Cool! Thanks bossing.
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Cool! Thanks bossing.
mukhang madadagdagan na naman ang mga euros owners!!!! :D....share us your break-in expereince ,Yakuini pag nakuha mo na ang euors 8 mo. ;)...
sir dvh,
have you tried listening to the song of Linkin park and J-z encore? try listening to it..sarap pakinggan sa Euros towers..tried it last New Year's eve nayanig ang mga pinsan ko heheheh!!!!
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mukhang madadagdagan na naman ang mga euros owners!!!! :D....share us your break-in expereince ,Yakuini pag nakuha mo na ang euors 8 mo. ;)...
sir dvh,
have you tried listening to the song of Linkin park and J-z encore? try listening to it..sarap pakinggan sa Euros towers..tried it last New Year's eve nayanig ang mga pinsan ko heheheh!!!!
im not much into linkin park but mostly on diana krall, nora jones, etc...sarap pakinggan very cool!!!!
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im not much into linkin park but mostly on diana krall, nora jones, etc...sarap pakinggan very cool!!!!
diana krall,nora jones....masubukan nga...para tame down naman ang sound..and soothing lalo na sa gabi...haaay ini-imagine ko pa lang ngayong umaga eh..inaantok na ako..
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mga Euros8 enthusiast, i went to Megamall kanina and bought a pair of bookshelf and BAD NEWS nag mahal na sila.
Old Price New Price % Increase
Tower : 5,560.00 Tower : 10,630 91.19
Bookshelf : 2,860.00 Bookshelf : 4,040 41.25
Center : 1,650.00 Center : 2,340 41.82
:( :( :(
pero they gave me a discount (suki price) was able to get the bookshelf for Php 3,200.
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Bought a pair of Euros8 yesterday. Muntik na akong naubusan. I went there with friend who also bought a pair and center. By order pala sa Moses kaya di kami nakakuha doon. So we went to Knights Audio who, as usual, treated us very well. Audiotioned the Euros 8 with Sakura 327 and was amazed with its performance. ANG LAKAS!!! and most importantly, very clear and detailed.
Muntik na akong umuwing luhaan ng sabihin nilang isang pair na lang ang Euro 8 nila and next day pa daw delivery. Di naman ako pwedeng bumalik dahil Pampanga pa ako. :(
Good thing dumating ang boss nila na si Jenny and I asked her if she can do something about it until she referred me to the store near theirs. Sigh, what a relief when the other store told me they still have one pair left and they gave that to me for only P5400 :o
Right after unloading them sa bahay, I wasted no time, I removed the DTX tower, switched them as my Surround then placed the Euros 8 infront, loaded the Linkin Park concert, played NUMB and I smiled like this - ;D because of satisfaction.
I like its MASSIVE SIZE!!! ASTEEEGGGGGGGGG!!!
By the way, for those who wants to know. 3'9" tall, 13" length sa side and 10" wide sa front ang Euros8.
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(http://members.aol.com/aoltechjal/euros8.jpg)
Pardon the picture. Phone camera lang po.
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vtec3,
euros 8 lang ba ang nagtaas?...pupunta sana ako ngayon para kumuha ng e8 towers kaso grabe ang pagtaas...sayang! akala ko last week of jan pa...ako ngayon ang luhaan
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p.dividdy2,
sorry for the late reply was having a hard time accessing the site yesterday. yup yung Euros8 ang nagtaas ng price. buti na din na kumpleto ko na yung 1 set. sir try mo baka kapag 1 set mas malaki ang discount na bigay nila.
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Bro Yakuini,
Yung kumpare ko tinext ako kahapon at pumunta ka nga daw dun kaya lang wala na silang stocks, pero umorder na daw sya at dadating daw today. Pinatatanong nga kung nakabili ka na. But since you already did, okay lang naman siguro. ;)
Everybody who plans on buying Euros:
Try nyo na lang ulit sa Moses Aaron kasi ganun pa rin daw ang price sa kanila, yung supposedly for bro Yakuini. Hurry! ;D
Oh and ahh, if anybody would like to find out how much my Euros 8 cost me, here it is:
Towers: 5,100 per pair(Yup, my kumpare gives me a higher discount ;D)
Bookshelf: 2,650 per pair (I got 3 pairs)
Center: 1,650
God Bless, my brothers! :)
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mga Euros8 enthusiast, i went to Megamall kanina and bought a pair of bookshelf and BAD NEWS nag mahal na sila.
Old Price New Price % Increase
Tower : 5,560.00 Tower : 10,630 91.19
Bookshelf : 2,860.00 Bookshelf : 4,040 41.25
Center : 1,650.00 Center : 2,340 41.82
:( :( :(
pero they gave me a discount (suki price) was able to get the bookshelf for Php 3,200.
Bro,
Sana you went to Moses Aaron kasi he texted me yesterday na sila, hanggang last week of January pa talaga. Anyway, you got a big discount naman from Daiichi e, di naman gaano kalaki ang difference. God Bless. :)
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vtec3,
euros 8 lang ba ang nagtaas?...pupunta sana ako ngayon para kumuha ng e8 towers kaso grabe ang pagtaas...sayang! akala ko last week of jan pa...ako ngayon ang luhaan
My kumpareng Mike told me so, and yes, they're prices are until the last week of January pa raw since yun din ang sabi ng agent nila. But try nyo lang sa Moses Aaron and look for Mike, they may still have the same prices. ;)
Oh and ahh, the people at Daiichi Mega mall told me the entire Euros line (both 6 and 8) will be returning to their old prices. :'(
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Bro Yakuini,
Yung kumpare ko tinext ako kahapon at pumunta ka nga daw dun kaya lang wala na silang stocks, pero umorder na daw sya at dadating daw today. Pinatatanong nga kung nakabili ka na. But since you already did, okay lang naman siguro. ;)
Everybody who plans on buying Euros:
Try nyo na lang ulit sa Moses Aaron kasi ganun pa rin daw ang price sa kanila, yung supposedly for bro Yakuini. Hurry! ;D
Oh and ahh, if anybody would like to find out how much my Euros 8 cost me, here it is:
Towers: 5,100 per pair(Yup, my kumpare gives me a higher discount ;D)
Bookshelf: 2,650 per pair (I got 3 pairs)
Center: 1,650
God Bless, my brothers! :)
That's right Bro. Nagkita kami ng kumpare mo and sad to say, ala silang stocks. Dalawa actually ang kukunin namin, kasama ko friend ko. Akala ko nga wala kaming mabibili eh, mahirap bumalik kasi Pampanga pa kami.
Pero baka next saturday, babalik ako para bumili ng Center. Di kasi ako sure kung kukunin ng Brother ko center eh kaya di muna ako bumili last Sat. Ibibili ko na rin sya ng Sakura 327 and don't worry, priority ko store ng Kumpare mo, nakakahiya kasi di ako nakabili nung una :)
Bro, do you have any idea how much is 12" DTX Sub? Nakalimutan kong itanong...langya, lumubog na ang DTX 4.8 ko na sub, kailangan na ring palitan ;D
I am still awed with the beauty of my Euros8 :o :o :o
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That's right Bro. Nagkita kami ng kumpare mo and sad to say, ala silang stocks. Dalawa actually ang kukunin namin, kasama ko friend ko. Akala ko nga wala kaming mabibili eh, mahirap bumalik kasi Pampanga pa kami.
Pero baka next saturday, babalik ako para bumili ng Center. Di kasi ako sure kung kukunin ng Brother ko center eh kaya di muna ako bumili last Sat. Ibibili ko na rin sya ng Sakura 327 and don't worry, priority ko store ng Kumpare mo, nakakahiya kasi di ako nakabili nung una :)
Ang sarap ng feeling pag nakapagbigay no? I gave my Sakura to a friend and bought her Promac 5.1T for her speakers. May 327 pa ba? I heard wala na e. But I'm sure meron din namang 387, also at Moses Aaron. It's okay, bro, but thanks.
Bro, do you have any idea how much is 12" DTX Sub? Nakalimutan kong itanong...langya, lumubog na ang DTX 4.8 ko na sub, kailangan na ring palitan ;D
The price my kumpare gave me the last time I asked was around 7,800, but with a 5% discount, you could get it for around 7.6K. Regarding your 4.8, why not bring it to the Raon showroom and have it repaired? Remember the lifetime free service warranty that come with Daiichis? Yes, they'll fix it for you for free, you just have to be the one to pay for replaced parts. Then since the feeling of Christmas giving is still with you, maybe you can give it to your brother na rin. O di ba? You get to become somebody's hero pa. He he he. ;D
I am still awed with the beauty of my Euros8 :o :o :o
Yeah, me too. Anlaki no? A lot of my friends have seen it and this is the first time lahat sila walang masabi but praises. And except for the D'Appolito configuration and finish, they do look like Yamaha NS-777s, no? Parang biglang lumiit ang 29" tv ko. ;D Ingat.
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Regarding your 4.8, why not bring it to the Raon showroom and have it repaired?
Hindi naman siya sira. What I mean is, my low freq sounds is almost the same with or without my 8" sub. Yeah, that is how low the Euros8 can deliver ;D
Sa hiphop music ko na lang nafi-feel na me sub pa ako di na match and 8" sub ko sa Euros8...Nag-iipon na to upgrade for a much bigger sub >:D
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Hindi naman siya sira. What I mean is, my low freq sounds is almost the same with or without my 8" sub. Yeah, that is how low the Euros8 can deliver ;D
Sa hiphop music ko na lang nafi-feel na me sub pa ako di na match and 8" sub ko sa Euros8...Nag-iipon na to upgrade for a much bigger sub >:D
we have another satisfied customer of Euros 8 in the presence of my kababayan Yakuini (Ako Ito) :D.....buti na lang you have a sub na (ako kase wala pa :-[) you help me decide kung ano size kukunin ko pag naka-ipon na rin ako pambili ng sub hehehe....Happy listening bro and happ listening to all Euros 8 owners!!!! O0
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Yeah, me too. Anlaki no? A lot of my friends have seen it and this is the first time lahat sila walang masabi but praises. And except for the D'Appolito configuration and finish, they do look like Yamaha NS-777s, no? Parang biglang lumiit ang 29" tv ko. ;D Ingat.
sir art and sir yakuini, sama na ako sa satisfied Euros8 owner ;). sbi nga nung brother ko bakit daw ako nagpalit ng Daiichi eh dati puro Bose yung speaker ko, i asked him to listen and see the difference, yun balak na din bumili kahit daw yung DTX lang :D.
O.T.
sir art yung Philips na HDTV na 43" yung pumalit sa Matchline series nila naka sale ngayon 94,000 plus free DVD Hometheater (18 months zero interest) and yung 50" nila from 134K down to 119K (18 mths zero interest din). Nagiisip pa ko kung alin ang kunin ko. ;D
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it's very good to hear that a lot of people now are happy and very satisfied with their Euros8...
I, for one is a very very very satisfied owner of euros8....
regards,
dvh
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sir art and sir yakuini, sama na ako sa satisfied Euros8 owner ;). sbi nga nung brother ko bakit daw ako nagpalit ng Daiichi eh dati puro Bose yung speaker ko, i asked him to listen and see the difference, yun balak na din bumili kahit daw yung DTX lang :D.
O.T.
sir art yung Philips na HDTV na 43" yung pumalit sa Matchline series nila naka sale ngayon 94,000 plus free DVD Hometheater (18 months zero interest) and yung 50" nila from 134K down to 119K (18 mths zero interest din). Nagiisip pa ko kung alin ang kunin ko. ;D
Are these both RPTVs? Kasi at that price, konti na lang Plasma na e, di ba? But if I were to choose from both, I'd go for the 43" set. Sayang pa kasi ang 25K e, for 7" more.... Just me though. ;D
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yup both are RPTV's. yan din nga ang iniisip ko too expensive for 7" difference. puwede ko na ulit ibili yung sukli ng isa pang set ng Euros8. ;D
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yup both are RPTV's. yan din nga ang iniisip ko too expensive for 7" difference. puwede ko na ulit ibili yung sukli ng isa pang set ng Euros8. ;D
If I were you bro, and this is if I were you nga, I'd get one of those 36" Sony Wega tv's na surplus, 23K lang, or any other brand new na 36" din na CRT tv, but if you can really afford it, why not save for a 42" Plasma display panel, I heard LG PDPs cost around 140K. I just think buying a monitor that's almost 100K is not such a great idea, since malapit na naman dun ang price ng plasma. So kung size lang naman ang habol mo, CRT tvs are better than RPTVs, but that's just me. Or you could go all the way and get an LCOS tv from Kolin.
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will there be a significant difference sa performance kung yung Euros center speakers eh naka lagay sa floor ??? kasi dahil sa bigat nito i think baka di ito kayanin ng RPTV ko. thanks very much ;)
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will there be a significant difference sa performance kung yung Euros center speakers eh naka lagay sa floor ??? kasi dahil sa bigat nito i think baka di ito kayanin ng RPTV ko. thanks very much ;)
There are many center speakers meant to be positioned on the floor. They often have a slant so the drivers face the viewer/listner. You should angle the center so its driver will fire at you at the same imaginary horizontal line as the L and R speakers at your listening/viewing position.
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thank you very much sir av_phile1 for the reply. :)
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will there be a significant difference sa performance kung yung Euros center speakers eh naka lagay sa floor ??? kasi dahil sa bigat nito i think baka di ito kayanin ng RPTV ko. thanks very much ;)
Di naman sya gaano kabigat bro a, I tried placing it on top of my tv, okay naman sya. Try mo lang kaya bro kasi the center speaker is meant to be placed close to the screen either directly on top or directly below. And even if you do find a way to make it fire at the listening position you are in, what about everybody else watching? Just a suggestion. ;D
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the "top width" din kasi of the RPTV is mga 4" m thinking of putting double adhesive tape para di gumalaw since masmalapad yung width ng Euros center, will try later, mamaya din lang kasi ito ideliver (got the 43" inch na lang). :D thanks very much for the inputs.
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Maybe you can attach some sort of legs or support for the rear end of your center speaker on top of your RPTV? ;D Besides, the front end of the center speaker is the heavier side so I'm sure di naman sya mahuhulog.
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the "top width" din kasi of the RPTV is mga 4" m thinking of putting double adhesive tape para di gumalaw since masmalapad yung width ng Euros center, will try later, mamaya din lang kasi ito ideliver (got the 43" inch na lang). :D thanks very much for the inputs.
Bro, you can also try to use the speaker of your RPTV as your center channel. Kung may center pre-out yung receiver mo, you can hook it to the audio input of your TV at baka mas maganda pang tumunog ito compared to Euros center.
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Bro, you can also try to use the speaker of your RPTV as your center channel. Kung may center pre-out yung receiver mo, you can hook it to the audio input of your TV at baka mas maganda pang tumunog ito compared to Euros center.
when you say center pre-out eto din ba yung center speaker out ng receiver. salamat sa inputs. ;)
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when you say center pre-out eto din ba yung center speaker out ng receiver. salamat sa inputs. ;)
Nope. When you say pre-out, it means line level output, requiring amplification in order for it to be audible. The speaket out of the amp is a speaker level output, already amplified, so if you connect thet speaker out to line input of your RPTV, there's a big probability na masusunog sya. Check the back of your receiver if it has pre outs at the back, kung meron, then pwede, kung wala, then sorry. You can also use the center out of the dvd player if it has a 5.1 decoder. But if wala din, then sorry again. If these are the cases, then no choice but to find a way to place the center speaker on top of the RPTV. Besides, sayang naman if you don't get to use it. And although I'm not contesting Bro Juneaki's theory that it might sound better, I highly doubt that the built in speakers on your RPTV is better than your center speaker. ;D
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Nope. When you say pre-out, it means line level output, requiring amplification in order for it to be audible. The speaket out of the amp is a speaker level output, already amplified, so if you connect thet speaker out to line input of your RPTV, there's a big probability na masusunog sya. Check the back of your receiver if it has pre outs at the back, kung meron, then pwede, kung wala, then sorry. You can also use the center out of the dvd player if it has a 5.1 decoder. But if wala din, then sorry again. If these are the cases, then no choice but to find a way to place the center speaker on top of the RPTV. Besides, sayang naman if you don't get to use it. And although I'm not contesting Bro Juneaki's theory that it might sound better, I highly doubt that the built in speakers on your RPTV is better than your center speaker. ;D
thank you very much sir art for always answering my querry. will stick with the all Euros set-up na lang and find a way na lang na maipatong yung center sa ibabaw ng TV. thanks again :).
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Bro Art, kindly advise me. My AVR is Onkyo TX-SR 501 (courtesy of one of our members here) and am currently using Wharfedale Modus 3 (100 watts, 8 ohms) as fronts and Wharfedale Valdus center and surrounds set (100 watts each, 4-8 ohms). My problem is, when using all channel stereo mode in music/audio listening, pakiramdam ko ay mas malakas ang surrounds kesa sa fronts. Ang theory ko ay hirap ang AVR na patunogin ang modus 3 kasi 8 ohms ito while the normal impedance required of the AVR sa speaker ay 6 ohms. Do i need to replace my fronts? Kaya kaya ng AVR ko ang Euros 8 na tower?
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Try adjusting the AVR's output levels of your fronts and rears independently. See my posts to your querry in the amplifier section.
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Bro Art, kindly advise me. My AVR is Onkyo TX-SR 501 (courtesy of one of our members here) and am currently using Wharfedale Modus 3 (100 watts, 8 ohms) as fronts and Wharfedale Valdus center and surrounds set (100 watts each, 4-8 ohms). My problem is, when using all channel stereo mode in music/audio listening, pakiramdam ko ay mas malakas ang surrounds kesa sa fronts. Ang theory ko ay hirap ang AVR na patunogin ang modus 3 kasi 8 ohms ito while the normal impedance required of the AVR sa speaker ay 6 ohms. Do i need to replace my fronts? Kaya kaya ng AVR ko ang Euros 8 na tower?
I think the thing that you need to check on is the sensitivity of the speakers. This is my major turn off with wharfedale speakers, the sensitivity. Easy to drive speakers are normally rated at 91-89dB, and a difference of about 3dB is gonna require twice the power to amplify it at the same volume level. So if those speakers are rated at 86dB, there's your problem.
If your amp has a lower impedance than your speaker, all the better. A 6 ohm amp can drive an 8 ohm speaker better than the other way around. Think of it this way, parang tubo lang ng tubig at gripo yan e, ang amp mo ang tubo and ang speaker mo ang gripo. Kung mas malaki ang tubo at kinabitan mo ng maliit na gripo, mas malakas ang daloy ng tubig, di ba? But if maliit ang tubo at malaki ang gripo, dadaloy pa rin ang tubig pero di singlakas. So I don't think the amp and speaker impedance is your problem. Now, I can tell you that the Euros 8 are rated with an 89dB sensitivity so they are pretty easy to drive.
So check the sensitivites of your fronts and surrounds, I'm thinking, the fronts might have a lower sensitivity than the surrounds.
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I think it's easier to drive 8 ohms speakers than 6ohms. Maybe when u use the all channel stereo mode the surrounds are set at a higher volume than the fronts. I for one set the surrounds at a higher volume during ht listening but only use stereo (2 front channels) for my audio listening thereby turning off my surrounds. It's probably on the set up of ur onkyo.
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I think the thing that you need to check on is the sensitivity of the speakers. This is my major turn off with wharfedale speakers, the sensitivity. Easy to drive speakers are normally rated at 91-89dB, and a difference of about 3dB is gonna require twice the power to amplify it at the same volume level. So if those speakers are rated at 86dB, there's your problem.
If your amp has a lower impedance than your speaker, all the better. A 6 ohm amp can drive an 8 ohm speaker better than the other way around. Think of it this way, parang tubo lang ng tubig at gripo yan e, ang amp mo ang tubo and ang speaker mo ang gripo. Kung mas malaki ang tubo at kinabitan mo ng maliit na gripo, mas malakas ang daloy ng tubig, di ba? But if maliit ang tubo at malaki ang gripo, dadaloy pa rin ang tubig pero di singlakas. So I don't think the amp and speaker impedance is your problem. Now, I can tell you that the Euros 8 are rated with an 89dB sensitivity so they are pretty easy to drive.
So check the sensitivites of your fronts and surrounds, I'm thinking, the fronts might have a lower sensitivity than the surrounds.
The valdus speakers have sensitivity of 88db, for the modus, i still have to check. BTW, my AVR has an option to independently adjust the volume of each channels. Sir av_phile suggest to just increase the volume of the fronts in relation to the surrounds. I think i'll try it and if it function, then i save a lot of bucks. Thanks sir Art.
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Hi room!!! ehehe.. ala pala ko sa chatroom hehe.. Mga pards musta na? Tanong lang... how much ang mga euros speakers? mukhang andaming nagsasabing maganda to. gusto ko na din magpalit ng speakers eh. gusto ko kasi dai ichi din parang dati. un lang.. tnx O0
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how much ang euros fronts (pair)? thanks.
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for those that are asking how much the Euros8 are now. (Daiichi Megamall)
Old Price New Price % Increase
Tower : 5,560.00 Tower : 10,630 91.19
Bookshelf : 2,860.00 Bookshelf : 4,040 41.25
Center : 1,650.00 Center : 2,340 41.82
try ninyo din sa Moses Aaron sa Raon, i think they can give it to you at the old price. ;)
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makapunta nga sa megamol maya. :) Di ba Dai ichi products at Raon is much cheaper than sa mega? Or just the same?
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makapunta nga sa megamol maya. :) Di ba Dai ichi products at Raon is much cheaper than sa mega? Or just the same?
Most every electronic stuff is cheaper in Raon than elsewhere.
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Don't worry bro, kumpare ko at Moses Aaron confirmed from a Daiichi agent that until the last week of January pa. After that, balik na sa dati. Oh and aah, Moses Aaron has got the lowest base prices as far as I know, and they can give you an extra 5% discount, just in case you wanna know. ;D
Already purchased two more pairs of Euros 8 bookshelf speakers last friday. Expecting it to arrive this week. Natakot kasing maabutan ng pagtaas ng presyo. Nag-panic. He he he. ;D
I agree kay Sir AV. Above is a quote from Sir Art, yung isa dun sa Moses Aaron eh kumpare niya. Sabi nga niya they can give you pa a 5% discount. :)
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Although yung set ko ng Euros eh sa Mega ko binili for the reason na wala ako makaka tulong magbuhat kung sa Raon ako bibili and mahirap ang parking. Bro if you intend to buy a set bring somebody along to help you carry the speakers and bring an SUV/AUV. ;)
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Yup. Convenient hassle-free shopping is what those malls are about. So you pay a premium over the same things you can get at Divisoria, Raon, Quiapo, Carriedo, Baclaran, etc. ;D After sales service, maybe.
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Daiichi's reason why mas mahal sila is protection of their dealers, they look at their dealers as their help in distributing their products. But this is one of those very rare times na nagkalapit ang prices ng Daiichi at ng dealers, but still mas mura pa rin sa Raon. But sad to say those days are almost over. And yes, as Sir AV said , you pay a premium for convenience. Consider airconditioning, location, etc. Everything that makes malls a nice place to go to. :)
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The valdus speakers have sensitivity of 88db, for the modus, i still have to check. BTW, my AVR has an option to independently adjust the volume of each channels. Sir av_phile suggest to just increase the volume of the fronts in relation to the surrounds. I think i'll try it and if it function, then i save a lot of bucks. Thanks sir Art.
Bro, I'm sorry if I gave the impression that I'm suggesting you change your speakers, he he ;D, I'm not. I just gave one possibility as to why you have that problem. But yes, Sir Av's suggestion is sure to work. It just seems like an inconvenience to some, you know, different settings for different modes. But that is definitely the easiest solution. Ingat. ;)
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Dai Ichi rin ang US Audio diba?
Totoo ba yung so called lifetime service warranty nila? How do you avail of it? Receipt required? Thanks.
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Dai Ichi rin ang US Audio diba?
Totoo ba yung so called lifetime service warranty nila? How do you avail of it? Receipt required? Thanks.
Yes, US Audio products are made by Daiichi so they have the lifetime service warranty. Just bring your unit to Daiichi Raon and that's it. They don't even ask for a receipt. Ganun kadali. ;D
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Yes, US Audio products are made by Daiichi so they have the lifetime service warranty. Just bring your unit to Daiichi Raon and that's it. They don't even ask for a receipt. Ganun kadali. ;D
sa raon lang ba ang service center ng daiichi? di ba pwede sa megamall?
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sa raon lang ba ang service center ng daiichi? di ba pwede sa megamall?
Yup, andun ang shop nila e, wla sa Megamall. ;D
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sa raon lang ba ang service center ng daiichi? di ba pwede sa megamall?
Pwede bro, I had my DTX tower serviced at Megamall a few days ago, no receipt needed. Yun nga lang 10 working days to repair. Kirat ang HT ko ngayon :) so I hold back muna sa noisy action movies until the DTX gets repaired.
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I also saw the DTX 4.15 there for the first time. MAN, they are huge! But they are for repair as well. They dont sell DTX 4.15 na raw.
They also dont sell DTX centers anymore in Megamall, anyone know if they are still selling it in Raon?
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Sa 27th pa ako makakaluwas to buy Euro8 center...sana di pa ako abutin ng price increase :(
By the way, I like the sounds of the Euro8 center than my DTX center. Even my wife noticed a big difference with their sounds. DTX is kinda sharp side while the Euros8 center is well balanced - matinis na medyo mag pagkabilog, probably because its a ported design while DTX is sealed.
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I also saw the DTX 4.15 there for the first time. MAN, they are huge! But they are for repair as well. They dont sell DTX 4.15 na raw.
They also dont sell DTX centers anymore in Megamall, anyone know if they are still selling it in Raon?
you're right...daiichi is not selling dtx 4.15 sub...as per last december nung bumili ako ng euros8 set e bumili rin ako ng dtx 4.12. target ko talaga is dtx 4.15 pero di na daw sila gumagawa...
anyway im very very satisfied sa dtx 4.12...hataw...
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I went ot megamol yesterday and the receptionist told me that until first week na lang ng feb ang sale ng euros. damn!!! la kasi ako budget ngayon! sayang!!! Nasa 6k+ ang bentahan ngaun ng euros sa mega. The euros8 is kinda big para sa sala namin. k lang ba yun euro6? review naman jan hehe... tnx
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Sa 27th pa ako makakaluwas to buy Euro8 center...sana di pa ako abutin ng price increase :(
By the way, I like the sounds of the Euro8 center than my DTX center. Even my wife noticed a big difference with their sounds. DTX is kinda sharp side while the Euros8 center is well balanced - matinis na medyo mag pagkabilog, probably because its a ported design while DTX is sealed.
Try Moses Aaron, baka ganun pa din ang price nila by that time.
And yes, I like the Euros 8 center better than the DTX 9.5 C. It's not like other center speakers na puro "sss". Claro ang treble but di exagerrated. Very natural sounding. ;)
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you're right...daiichi is not selling dtx 4.15 sub...as per last december nung bumili ako ng euros8 set e bumili rin ako ng dtx 4.12. target ko talaga is dtx 4.15 pero di na daw sila gumagawa...
anyway im very very satisfied sa dtx 4.12...hataw...
Matanong ko nga pareng Mike ko kung meron pa. Yung 4.15 pa rin kasi ang tinatarget ko e. Sana meron pa. Saan ka ba nagtanong bro? Mega or Raon? Thanks.
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targa subs are good in car audio.sasa tamang box at ampli lang yan... timplahan lang.
check nyo yung kotseaudioclub.com ang daming naka targa subs dun at talagang napaganda nila yung tunog..kayang makipagsabayan sa mga naka kicker L5's..ahehehehe pang budget setup talaga.. pero sa mga "may pera" talagang aayawan nila ang targa. ahehehe
pero kung sa HT setup. i think hindi sya advisable gamitin.
meron naman daiichi subs at ok naman sila pang HT.
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Just bought a US Audio 512 last Friday. Very much happy with its performance. I've auditioned it and noticed na 12"wharfedale doesn't even comes close to it. Just my opinion.
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Just bought a US Audio 512 last Friday. Very much happy with its performance. I've auditioned it and noticed na 12"wharfedale doesn't even comes close to it. Just my opinion.
I also own a 512MKII, yes, this is a very powerful sub. I just find it inaccurate though. This is still the sub I use in my living room set up. Plan to replce it with a DTX 4.15.
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Matanong ko nga pareng Mike ko kung meron pa. Yung 4.15 pa rin kasi ang tinatarget ko e. Sana meron pa. Saan ka ba nagtanong bro? Mega or Raon? Thanks.
sa megamall ako nagtanong and eventually don di ako bumili last december. mas convenient kasi for me to buy it sa megamall as compared sa raon.
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sa megamall ako nagtanong and eventually don di ako bumili last december. mas convenient kasi for me to buy it sa megamall as compared sa raon.
Mike told me na 2 months na daw silang walang stock ng 4.15 since wala naman daw naghahanap. But itatanong nya na rin daw sa agent kung meron pa. I just wanna make sure kasi if wala lang silang stock o talagang discontinued na ang 4.15. Thanks.
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Mike told me na 2 months na daw silang walang stock ng 4.15 since wala naman daw naghahanap. But itatanong nya na rin daw sa agent kung meron pa. I just wanna make sure kasi if wala lang silang stock o talagang discontinued na ang 4.15. Thanks.
iyon din ang niliwanag ko don sa daiichi megamall last december kung wala lang silang stock sa megamall at kukuha sa pasig factory/warehouse or kung di na talaga sila gumagawa...ang response sa akin is di na sila gumagawa or discontinued na yung dtx 4.15. sabi ko sayang kaya binili ko na lang e yung 4.12...
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Ay, sayang. I hope meron pa ang mga dealers. Dun na lang ako kukuha, kung wala, e di pasensya na lang tayo sa 4.12. But I'm still hopeful. Thanks.
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Guys, lately my humming sound na lumalabas sa active sub (Ganz Klar) ko. To check kung saan nanggagaling ung unwanted sound, binuksan ko yung Ganz Klar and you know what, i discovered na ang driver na ginagamit ng Ganz Klar na supposed to be ay made in Germany (daw) ay Dai-Ichi speaker!
Meron bang DTX active sub na 10" lang ang driver? Magkano?
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Guys, lately my humming sound na lumalabas sa active sub (Ganz Klar) ko. To check kung saan nanggagaling ung unwanted sound, binuksan ko yung Ganz Klar and you know what, i discovered na ang driver na ginagamit ng Ganz Klar na supposed to be ay made in Germany (daw) ay Dai-Ichi speaker!
Meron bang DTX active sub na 10" lang ang driver? Magkano?
Yes. The DTX 4.10. Mga 6K++. :)
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Guys, lately my humming sound na lumalabas sa active sub (Ganz Klar) ko. To check kung saan nanggagaling ung unwanted sound, binuksan ko yung Ganz Klar and you know what, i discovered na ang driver na ginagamit ng Ganz Klar na supposed to be ay made in Germany (daw) ay Dai-Ichi speaker!
Meron bang DTX active sub na 10" lang ang driver? Magkano?
ang daiichi kasi e gumagawa ng mga OEM na speakers and sub. then binibili lang sa kanila ng mga different speaker companies for repackaging syempre mas mahal na yan pag binili mo sa mga branded companies kasi may brand na. this is the reason why i opted to get daiichi speakers instead sa mga mahal na speakers na kung tutuusin mo rin naman e baka daiichi rin ang OEM na speakers ang ginamit.
regards,
dvh
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Pwede bro, I had my DTX tower serviced at Megamall a few days ago, no receipt needed. Yun nga lang 10 working days to repair. Kirat ang HT ko ngayon :) so I hold back muna sa noisy action movies until the DTX gets repaired.
The DTX was just a few months old, but nahulog bec of our new maid's carelessness.
That's the very reason why it takes them 10 days to repair it, since they have to send it to the Raon branch to have it repaired and bring it back to Mega. Once I had sometrhing repaired at Raon, they told me I should come back after 2 days but I said I'd be going back to Bacolod 2 days from that day, and they rushed it and I came back for it the following day and tapos na sya. ;D
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Yep, but Megamall is walking distance lang from my office & my house (a few blocks away). I couldnt imagine going all the way to Raon.
Funny thing was, when I bought the DTX towers from Mega, I opted to walk to my office (2 blocks diagonal to Shang Edsa)with the towers. Elmer the sales guy assisted me. Kawawa naman si Elmer, ang payat pa naman ;D. But we made it (lawit dila). Ayaw kasi ni Elmer mag cart.
Anyway, I will call Daiichi Mega now, they said that it might be finished today.
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Argh, Wala pa raw.
Mukhang 10 working days nga talaga :(.
Dami ko pa namang action R1 DVDs nakapila for watching dito
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Yep, but Megamall is walking distance lang from my office & my house (a few blocks away). I couldnt imagine going all the way to Raon.
Funny thing was, when I bought the DTX towers from Mega, I opted to walk to my office (2 blocks diagonal to Shang Edsa)with the towers. Elmer the sales guy assisted me. Kawawa naman si Elmer, ang payat pa naman ;D. But we made it (lawit dila). Ayaw kasi ni Elmer mag cart.
Anyway, I will call Daiichi Mega now, they said that it might be finished today.
Reminds me of the day I also bought my DTX Towers and Center, Mike also had to carry it from their store up to Quezon Ave. so that we can get a ride going to SM North Edsa. Buti na lang medyo malaki katawan ni Mike. Pero ako naman ang kawawa sa North Edsa since I had to drag the towers wherever we went inside the mall, until the wifey decided we leave it at her ninang's store at Vida Doria. Haaay... as I once said, the things we do for love... love for HT. He he he. ;D
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arthurallanj,
bro, ikaw ba yung may kakilala sa Knight Audio? may update ka na ba kung how much na yung Euros? Natuloy ba price increase nila? Thanks!
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arthurallanj,
bro, ikaw ba yung may kakilala sa Knight Audio? may update ka na ba kung how much na yung Euros? Natuloy ba price increase nila? Thanks!
Nope, but I know someone from Moses Aaron who recently confirmed na until this week pa yung old prices nila. Try calling them at (02)7354390 and look for Mike to confirm the prices, tell him DJ Art or his pareng Art reffered you to him. Hurry bro, sayang kasi. ;D
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Reminds me of the day I also bought my DTX Towers and Center, Mike also had to carry it from their store up to Quezon Ave. so that we can get a ride going to SM North Edsa. Buti na lang medyo malaki katawan ni Mike. Pero ako naman ang kawawa sa North Edsa since I had to drag the towers wherever we went inside the mall, until the wifey decided we leave it at her ninang's store at Vida Doria. Haaay... as I once said, the things we do for love... love for HT. He he he. ;D
Wow, may dala ka pang center. Next time try dragging a pair of Euros 8 towers ;D ;D
How much is the Euros 8 center now? I read its still on sale. Is it better to match this to the DTX towers? I read in this thread that more people prefer PL100 center.
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I also have a question.
My DTX Towers + DQ12 along with the rest of my HT was doing Ok a few months ago, then I bi-wired the towers.
The DQ12 became HYPER!!! It was too loud and boomy even at 1/4 the volume. I am comfortable with the boominess, but the rest of the occupants of the house are complaining, namely my wife and baby (not verbally of course). I am just wondering why the DQ12 became so loud & boomy after bi-wiring. Anyone experience this?
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O.T.
sir art yung Philips na HDTV na 43" yung pumalit sa Matchline series nila naka sale ngayon 94,000 plus free DVD Hometheater (18 months zero interest) and yung 50" nila from 134K down to 119K (18 mths zero interest din). Nagiisip pa ko kung alin ang kunin ko. ;D
Bro, just a suggestion. for the little difference, go for the 50 inch RPTV para di bitin.Para wala nang thoughts of upgrading next time. And Anyway 18 months to pay naman. Reminds me of when I was deciding for my Honda Civic 1.5 or 1.6, the difference was small when using financing :). konting dagdag kayod na lang, hehehe ;) But thats just me though. .
And bro, a Hitachi 50 incher wont cost you that much, its around 110k I think. And the picture quality is comparable to a DLP according to a thread I read somewhere in PDVD. (I am using one myself, so I kinda agree)
Also try to consider the new Samsung RPTV, its got DVI & VGA input. The new DVI HD-DVD players can upconvert the resolution of your TV from 480 to 720 or 1080! Its the next step for RPTVs. DVIs are usually for DLPs, LCDs & Plasmas only. This is the first RPTV I saw that has DVI. Gastos talaga ng hobby na to!!! (nagpabili na ako ng HD-DVD player abroad)
Enjoying a 50 inch TV for your HT is heaven (fig of speech). Go for it!
Thoughts of upgrading is hell >:D
Just my 2 cents worth :)
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Wow, may dala ka pang center. Next time try dragging a pair of Euros 8 towers ;D ;D
How much is the Euros 8 center now? I read its still on sale. Is it better to match this to the DTX towers? I read in this thread that more people prefer PL100 center.
The last time I asked, 1,650 pa rin ang Euros 8 center, but until this Saturday na lang daw sa Moses Aaron. I personally think the DTX 9.5 Towers is still best matched with the DTX 9.5 center. I still have that set up in my bedroom. The Euros 8 center is just gonna overwhelm the DTX towers in terms of performance and the timbre of the Euros 8 Center is slightly different than the DTX 9.5 center. But still very similar, though. I think it's a personal preference issue as to which you'd like better to as a center speaker. I personally don't like my center to be too "Bassy", I've always liked my system to sound natural. Some have said the PL100 center has better bass reproduction. And I wouldn't contest that since I've never really auditioned the PL100 extensively, I listened to the Euros 8 more since timbre matching was first and foremost on my list.
All I can say is the Euros 8 towers are more than I expected and bargained for. The issue now may be, since the Euros 8 are so well designed, it's hard to find a center speaker in this price bracket that can match it's performance. And yes, I've tested the Euros 8 system w/o a sub, and everybody, including myself, can hardly tell the difference with my usual equiptment settings, unless I turn the sub all the way up, of course. :)
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I also have a question.
My DTX Towers + DQ12 along with the rest of my HT was doing Ok a few months ago, then I bi-wired the towers.
The DQ12 became HYPER!!! It was too loud and boomy even at 1/4 the volume. I am comfortable with the boominess, but the rest of the occupants of the house are complaining, namely my wife and baby (not verbally of course). I am just wondering why the DQ12 became so loud & boomy after bi-wiring. Anyone experience this?
I have that set up in my bedroom, DTX 9.5 system plus a Dynaquest DQ12, and based on my experience, it should not affect the sub in any way as long as your sub is connected to the sub out/line level out of the amp. I'm using a Yamaha RX-V440 with these equiptment.
Why don't you elaborate on how your sub is connected to your system and maybe what amp your using?
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Wow, may dala ka pang center. Next time try dragging a pair of Euros 8 towers ;D ;D
He he, no way bro, hirap na nga ako sa pagtanggal pa lang ng Euros 8 towers sa box e, yun pa kayang dalhin ko sya around the mall. That's an unnecessary sacrifice I don't wanna take, kaya nga umorder na lang ako at pina cargo ko na lang rito sa Bacolod e, para ayos. ;D
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I have that set up in my bedroom, DTX 9.5 system plus a Dynaquest DQ12, and based on my experience, it should not affect the sub in any way as long as your sub is connected to the sub out/line level out of the amp. I'm using a Yamaha RX-V440 with these equiptment.
Why don't you elaborate on how your sub is connected to your system and maybe what amp your using?
Oops. Sorry, forgot to mention about the receiver ;D. I am using a Yamaha RX-V450 and its connected to the sub out, then connected to the L & R input of the DQ12 using a Y- connector. Its been tame until I bi-wired the DTX towers.
I even used calibration DVDs to match the volume of the front speakers with the subs. It matches the volume at over 1/3 of the volume. But when I test the system, its too boomy, so I have to set it at min volume.
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The last time I asked, 1,650 pa rin ang Euros 8 center, but until this Saturday na lang daw sa Moses Aaron. I personally think the DTX 9.5 Towers is still best matched with the DTX 9.5 center. I still have that set up in my bedroom. The Euros 8 center is just gonna overwhelm the DTX towers in terms of performance and the timbre of the Euros 8 Center is slightly different than the DTX 9.5 center. But still very similar, though. I think it's a personal preference issue as to which you'd like better to as a center speaker. I personally don't like my center to be too "Bassy", I've always liked my system to sound natural. Some have said the PL100 center has better bass reproduction. And I wouldn't contest that since I've never really auditioned the PL100 extensively, I listened to the Euros 8 more since timbre matching was first and foremost on my list.
All I can say is the Euros 8 towers are more than I expected and bargained for. The issue now may be, since the Euros 8 are so well designed, it's hard to find a center speaker in this price bracket that can match it's performance. And yes, I've tested the Euros 8 system w/o a sub, and everybody, including myself, can hardly tell the difference with my usual equiptment settings, unless I turn the sub all the way up, of course. :)
Thanks for the info on the centers. Are there stores selling DTX centers? Megamall isnt selling anymore. Its ok if it lacks bass, I have a spare Bose acoustimass passive sub that I connect to the center.
I plan to buy a new center & put my WH-2 center as my rear back channel bec I just found out that rear channel I am using now is only 4 ohms. Manual says it has to be 6 ohms for surrounds. Is this bad for the amp?
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i got to audition the bookshelf surround speakers sa mega kanina..
the euros 8 bookshelf sounds better than the pl100s medyo walang body yung sound ng pl100 medyo harsh..euros8 bs also sounded big walang euros 8 tower to audition (i was in the backroom) so andun lang euros 6 and pl100s... medyo harsh din yung pl100s compared with the euros6.. sayang walang euros 8 to compare..
i didnt buy anything since nagtaas na ng presyo.. the euros 6 towers was quoted at mga 9+ daw.. parang pagod na yung sales dude kaya he didnt bother to check the actual price.. also may all white 5.1 speaker set sa front display worth 13+k parang bago ata yun...
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Hey Guys, can anyone help me decide if its ok to use 2 ueros 8 center as my front speakers.? Limited kasi space ko for the fronts kaya it shoild be wall hanged. Ang main concern ko lang is regarding sa clarity ng fronts. Will it sound as clear as the euros tower? Not much concerned sa bass kasi im using USAudio512 naman. Hope you can help.
My setup:
AVR-Yamaha-RXV350
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Oops. Sorry, forgot to mention about the receiver ;D. I am using a Yamaha RX-V450 and its connected to the sub out, then connected to the L & R input of the DQ12 using a Y- connector. Its been tame until I bi-wired the DTX towers.
I even used calibration DVDs to match the volume of the front speakers with the subs. It matches the volume at over 1/3 of the volume. But when I test the system, its too boomy, so I have to set it at min volume.
That's a mystery to me bro, ganyan din naman ang pagkabit ko e. Sub out of the 440 to the input of the DQ12. The volume of the sub should not change since the sub out of the amp is a line level output and is variable only via main volume setting. What do you mean when you say set at minimum? Minimum na rin ba ang sa sub volume mo sa amp? Minimum na rin ba sa volume ng sub? Sarap sanang puntahan sa inyo para ma tingnan. Kaya lang nasa Bacolod ako e. Hehe. Bro, please pardon me if I'm gonna ask you this question, but did you remove the connectors at the back of the terminals of the speakers when you biwired them? Nagbabakasakali lang.
Why not try to remove the biwiring and wire it regularly to see if babalik sya sa dati, and biwire again to see if may changes. ;D
Sir AV? Calling Sir AV? Need help. Any diagnosis? ;D ???
Any other 450 owners having this problem? ;D
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Hey Guys, can anyone help me decide if its ok to use 2 ueros 8 center as my front speakers.? Limited kasi space ko for the fronts kaya it shoild be wall hanged. Ang main concern ko lang is regarding sa clarity ng fronts. Will it sound as clear as the euros tower? Not much concerned sa bass kasi im using USAudio512 naman. Hope you can help.
My setup:
AVR-Yamaha-RXV350
I see no problem with that. Though I think having centers for the front L and R might end up more expensive.
The center's D'Apollito arrangement of drivers is meant to offer a wider horizontal dispersion than those tower fronts (though lobing effects will create sitting preferences). So I would suggest you rotate the centers 90 degree either way so the D'Apolito arrayed speakers are vertically aligned.
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Thanks for the info on the centers. Are there stores selling DTX centers? Megamall isnt selling anymore. Its ok if it lacks bass, I have a spare Bose acoustimass passive sub that I connect to the center.
I plan to buy a new center & put my WH-2 center as my rear back channel bec I just found out that rear channel I am using now is only 4 ohms. Manual says it has to be 6 ohms for surrounds. Is this bad for the amp?
Well, bad to a certain degree since the 4-Ohm rear speaker you have right now has a higher impedance and it's gonna be a larger load for the amp than the recommended 6-Ohm minimum. I'm quite certain that the amp can handle it, though it would operate at a higher temperature, but it's always best to play it safe, right? ;D
Try calling Mike at Moses Aaron at (02)7354390 to check for the availability of the speakers that you're looking for, but remember bro, I got my Euros 8 Center at the same price I got my DTX 9.5 Center for. And the Euros 8 Center is much better than the DTX 9.5 Center.
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That's a mystery to me bro, ganyan din naman ang pagkabit ko e. Sub out of the 440 to the input of the DQ12. The volume of the sub should not change since the sub out of the amp is a line level output and is variable only via main volume setting. What do you mean when you say set at minimum? Minimum na rin ba ang sa sub volume mo sa amp? Minimum na rin ba sa volume ng sub? Sarap sanang puntahan sa inyo para ma tingnan. Kaya lang nasa Bacolod ako e. Hehe. Bro, please pardon me if I'm gonna ask you this question, but did you remove the connectors at the back of the terminals of the speakers when you biwired them? Nagbabakasakali lang.
Why not try to remove the biwiring and wire it regularly to see if babalik sya sa dati, and biwire again to see if may changes. ;D
Sir AV? Calling Sir AV? Need help. Any diagnosis? ;D ???
Any other 450 owners having this problem? ;D
Would like to help but I fail to grasp the problem. I don't see how biwiring will make the total sonics become boomy. Unless he failed to wire the tweets, so the overall effect is so much bass and no highs.
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Hey Guys, can anyone help me decide if its ok to use 2 ueros 8 center as my front speakers.? Limited kasi space ko for the fronts kaya it shoild be wall hanged. Ang main concern ko lang is regarding sa clarity ng fronts. Will it sound as clear as the euros tower? Not much concerned sa bass kasi im using USAudio512 naman. Hope you can help.
My setup:
AVR-Yamaha-RXV350
Bro, why not get a pair of Euros 8 bookshelf speakers na lang if space is your concern. I can say it won't be as clear as getting a pair of towers but the matching with your other speakers would still be great in the sense that all of them would be two way systems na, assuming you'd be using a Euros 8 center and a pair of Euros 8 bookshelfs* din for your surrounds. And personally, I think the towers are way better performing than the rest of the speakers in the Euros 8 system. And beside getting two Euros 8 centers would cost you about 3.3K while a pair of Bookshelfs would cost you about 2.7K. Assuming you get them at their present prices. ;D
*Please note that I use the term "bookshelfs" when I refer to a pair of Bookshelf speakers instead of "bookshelves" since we're talking about speakers here, not cabinet shelves. Hehe. ;D
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i got to audition the bookshelf surround speakers sa mega kanina..
the euros 8 bookshelf sounds better than the pl100s medyo walang body yung sound ng pl100 medyo harsh..euros8 bs also sounded big walang euros 8 tower to audition (i was in the backroom) so andun lang euros 6 and pl100s... medyo harsh din yung pl100s compared with the euros6.. sayang walang euros 8 to compare..
i didnt buy anything since nagtaas na ng presyo.. the euros 6 towers was quoted at mga 9+ daw.. parang pagod na yung sales dude kaya he didnt bother to check the actual price.. also may all white 5.1 speaker set sa front display worth 13+k parang bago ata yun...
Are you talking about the slim system na andun na US Audio ang label, bro? O yung malaki na Daiichi system na pati shelf at amp included? I like the new slim system they have sa listening room, looks classy and imported, never auditioned it though, I thought it was too small to sound as good as the Euros 8. The all white 5.1 system sa labas was released last year pa, maganda rin sya as a package since pati tv rack meron na, then built in ang sub sa rack mismo, although the bass reproduction isn't as good as getting a separate sub. Pati 5 channel amp kasama dun for about 17K dati, bumaba na ata, nagustuhan nga yun dati ng Wifey e kasi mura na sya, maganda pa at kumpleto na. ;D
But yes sir, I concur with you in saying that the Euros 8 BS sounded better than the PL100, kaya nga di ko na sya in-audition extensively since I heard the difference kaagad when the salesperson switched the speakers. ;D
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What do you mean when you say set at minimum? Minimum na rin ba ang sa sub volume mo sa amp? Minimum na rin ba sa volume ng sub? Bro, please pardon me if I'm gonna ask you this question, but did you remove the connectors at the back of the terminals of the speakers when you biwired them? Nagbabakasakali lang.
I meant minimum na ang setting ko sa subs. Yep, I did remove the connectors.
Why not try to remove the biwiring and wire it regularly to see if babalik sya sa dati, and biwire again to see if may changes. ;D
Ok, will try that. Thanks :)
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Try calling Mike at Moses Aaron at (02)7354390 to check for the availability of the speakers that you're looking for, but remember bro, I got my Euros 8 Center at the same price I got my DTX 9.5 Center for. And the Euros 8 Center is much better than the DTX 9.5 Center.
I called Mike and he said they still have (P1,700w/ 5% disc) DTX centers. And the Euros 8 center has almost the same price (P1700). But like you mentioned, DTX centers sound best with the DTX towers (Mike said this too). I would prefer it to be tonally matched than if the Euros 8 center would subdue the DTX. Anyway, I have a spare subwoofer to connect to the DTX center.
Baka mangyari nyan after buying the Euros center I will be itching to upgrade to Euros towers na rin. My wife would bonk me in the head. UNLESS, I settle for my WH-2 center and use the Euros center for my rear center. Whatcha think :) ?
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I called Mike and he said they still have (P1,700w/ 5% disc) DTX centers. And the Euros 8 center has almost the same price (P1700). But like you mentioned, DTX centers sound best with the DTX towers (Mike said this too). I would prefer it to be tonally matched than if the Euros 8 center would subdue the DTX. Anyway, I have a spare subwoofer to connect to the DTX center.
Baka mangyari nyan after buying the Euros center I will be itching to upgrade to Euros towers na rin. My wife would bonk me in the head. UNLESS, I settle for my WH-2 center and use the Euros center for my rear center. Whatcha think :) ?
if ever you get the towers, gawan mo na lang palusot. sabihin mo second hand lang. sobrang bagsak presyo kamo :)
medyo sirain mo yung box for the added effects :) better hurry up. bago pa magtaas ng price :)
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I called Mike and he said they still have (P1,700w/ 5% disc) DTX centers. And the Euros 8 center has almost the same price (P1700). But like you mentioned, DTX centers sound best with the DTX towers (Mike said this too). I would prefer it to be tonally matched than if the Euros 8 center would subdue the DTX. Anyway, I have a spare subwoofer to connect to the DTX center.
Baka mangyari nyan after buying the Euros center I will be itching to upgrade to Euros towers na rin. My wife would bonk me in the head. UNLESS, I settle for my WH-2 center and use the Euros center for my rear center. Whatcha think :) ?
I'm sorry, bro, my Bad, I forgot you got the DTX 9.5 Towers na pala. Yes, bro, I'd recommend the DTX 9.5 Center for you, nakalimutan ko lang talaga na ang towers mo DTX na pala. Go for the DTX. ;D
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if ever you get the towers, gawan mo na lang palusot. sabihin mo second hand lang. sobrang bagsak presyo kamo :)
medyo sirain mo yung box for the added effects :) better hurry up. bago pa magtaas ng price :)
You devil you. He he he. Tinuruan pa ng kalokohan. He he he. Ganyan din ginawa ko sa Yamaha RX-V650 ko, sabi ko second hand lang, kuha ko 16K, di alam ng wifey na 25K, itinago ko na nga lang ang resibo at warranty card, baka mabuko pa. O, kayo lang nakakaalam nito ha? Pag nalaman ni misis, patay kayong lahat sa akin, hehehe. ;D >:D
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You devil you. He he he. Tinuruan pa ng kalokohan. He he he. Ganyan din ginawa ko sa Yamaha RX-V650 ko, sabi ko second hand lang, kuha ko 16K, di alam ng wifey na 25K, itinago ko na nga lang ang resibo at warranty card, baka mabuko pa. O, kayo lang nakakaalam nito ha? Pag nalaman ni misis, patay kayong lahat sa akin, hehehe. ;D >:D
salbahe ka sir art. mabubuko ka rin :) alam mo naman mga misis natin, walang lihim na nde kayang hukayin :)
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if ever you get the towers, gawan mo na lang palusot. sabihin mo second hand lang. sobrang bagsak presyo kamo :)
medyo sirain mo yung box for the added effects :) better hurry up. bago pa magtaas ng price :)
ROFL ;D ;D ;D
But actually the Euros 8 was already on sale during the time I got my DTX towers (Oct, 2004). I auditioned them all and found PL100 to be the best for me. But I live in a condo and space is a serious consideration for me. I was actually decided on the Euros 8 (from seeing it from the flyer) until I saw it w/ my own eyes, LOL, they were HUGE! Along with our 50" RPTV, I had no choice but to choose the slim towers or I had to mount the Euros 8 on the ceiling ;D.
Anyway, I said to myself, when I go home I wont remember how good the other speakers sounded and I will have no choice but to enjoy the slim towers. And I did!
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salbahe ka sir art. mabubuko ka rin :) alam mo naman mga misis natin, walang lihim na nde kayang hukayin :)
Salbahe ka rin bro, tinuturuan mo pa kasi ang iba sa kalokohan NATIN e, ako, at least, ako lang. Pero tama ka bro, alam ko na nararamdaman ni misis na may inililihim ako sa 650 ko kasi parang ayaw maniwala na nawala ko yung waybill ng cargo forwarder, andun kasi ang insured amount e. Tanong nang tanong dati kung nasaan na. He he. Pa-cute na lang ako. ;D
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ROFL ;D ;D ;D
But actually the Euros 8 was already on sale during the time I got my DTX towers (Oct, 2004). I auditioned them all and found PL100 to be the best for me. But I live in a condo and space is a serious consideration for me. I was actually decided on the Euros 8 (from seeing it from the flyer) until I saw it w/ my own eyes, LOL, they were HUGE! Along with our 50" RPTV, I had no choice but to choose the slim towers or I had to mount the Euros 8 on the ceiling ;D.
Anyway, I said to myself, when I go home I wont remember how good the other speakers sounded and I will have no choice but to enjoy the slim towers. And I did!
I don't think there's any reason to regret the purchase you made, bro. The DTX 9.5 speaker system is a great buy, I think it's highly unlikely na i-di-dispose ko yung sa akin someday, I liked it very much dati, and I still like it now. I think pagsisisihan ko if mawawala sya someday sa akin..... Grabe.... I sound like something out of a teleserye. You got so many years ahead of you to enjoy them.
And yes, we had the same reaction when I saw the Euros 8, the wifey even asked me a question after we saw it. "Yan ba talaga kukunin natin?" Pareho lang kasi kaming nagulat sa laki. Although, I was really decided on getting the 8's, that was the time I considered the 6's, but konti lang kasi talaga ang diperensya e, pricewise, and I did not want to have any regrets someday, so sabi ko, "Bahala na, I'm going all the way". Biglang lumiit ang TV nang inilagay ko na sya sa tabi nito. Now, the wifey and I are considering a TV with a bigger screen. Gastos na naman. :-\ ;D
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...Biglang lumiit ang TV nang inilagay ko na sya sa tabi nito. Now, the wifey and I are considering a TV with a bigger screen. Gastos na naman. :-\ ;D
kunwari pa si sir art :) gustung gusto naman :)
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I don't think there's any reason to regret the purchase you made, bro. The DTX 9.5 speaker system is a great buy, I think it's highly unlikely na i-di-dispose ko yung sa akin someday, I liked it very much dati, and I still like it now. I think pagsisisihan ko if mawawala sya someday sa akin..... Grabe.... I sound like something out of a teleserye. You got so many years ahead of you to enjoy them.
And yes, we had the same reaction when I saw the Euros 8, the wifey even asked me a question after we saw it. "Yan ba talaga kukunin natin?" Pareho lang kasi kaming nagulat sa laki. Although, I was really decided on getting the 8's, that was the time I considered the 6's, but konti lang kasi talaga ang diperensya e, pricewise, and I did not want to have any regrets someday, so sabi ko, "Bahala na, I'm going all the way". Biglang lumiit ang TV nang inilagay ko na sya sa tabi nito. Now, the wifey and I are considering a TV with a bigger screen. Gastos na naman. :-\ ;D
Oh yes! I love my DTXs! for the price I paid for em they sure are worth it. I keep boasting to my barkadas whose HT setups cost around 200k on how SULIT these DTXs are. Sure, their setups sound better, but for the price I paid, I dont think that there is a huge exponential difference compared to theirs.
Bro Art, GO for the big TV, I tell ya its heaven for HT lovers (like you and me), matches the huge Euros 8 too >:D >:D.
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kunwari pa si sir art :) gustung gusto naman :)
You see the grinning smiley at the end? That's what it means. He he. ;D
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Oh yes! I love my DTXs! for the price I paid for em they sure are worth it. I keep boasting to my barkadas whose HT setups cost around 200k on how SULIT these DTXs are. Sure, their setups sound better, but for the price I paid, I dont think that there is a huge exponential difference compared to theirs.
Bro Art, GO for the big TV, I tell ya its heaven for HT lovers (like you and me), matches the huge Euros 8 too >:D >:D.
The wife and I actually wanted to purchase a surplus 36-inch widescreen TV last christmas, but marami pa kasi kaming utang since we're also doing some home improvements. So we settled for another surplus 29 inch flat TV. But we still plan on getting a bigger set. ;D
And yes, I think we made a great purchase, kahit na mahirap lang tayo, we still get to enjoy great HT. So who says you need to be rich to have a home theater at home? ;D
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And yes, I think we made a great purchase, kahit na mahirap lang tayo, we still get to enjoy great HT. So who says you need to be rich to have a home theater at home? ;D
Well said ;D!
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almost went home last saturday afternoon but my wife told me to meet her at her friend's house in cubao. went there and they told me they want to go to binondo. told myself while they're are at biinondo might as well stop by raon but instead of using my car i borrowed my mom's van. went home with a pair of euros8 floorstanders with us. he-he-he.
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i'm planning to sell my dtx 9.5 tower, 9.5 center and 9.5 bookshelf. barely 2 weeks used...magkano ko kaya mabebenta ito? i'm planning to upgrade to infinity speakers kse.
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sir ang bilis naman ng UPGRADE mo- ;D ok paki reserved ung floorstanders mo, pero magkano mo ibibigay? ;D
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sir ang bilis naman ng UPGRADE mo- ;D ok paki reserved ung floorstanders mo, pero magkano mo ibibigay? ;D
hirap talaga kapag nakarinig ka ng ibang mga brand na speakers, magkakaroon ka ng point of comparison. mga dai-ichi speakers kse for beginners sa ht ok lang pero once na nakarinig ka ng more expensive na brands of speakers duon mo ma discern yung sinasabi ng ibang mga audiophiles na nag di-disappear sa room yung sound, with grace and finesse and so forth...etc. dai-ichi's kse medyo walang finesse, puro power lang.
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almost went home last saturday afternoon but my wife told me to meet her at her friend's house in cubao. went there and they told me they want to go to binondo. told myself while they're are at biinondo might as well stop by raon but instead of using my car i borrowed my mom's van. went home with a pair of euros8 floorstanders with us. he-he-he.
Magkano kuha mo bro? Saan? So how do you find it?
I miss Raon..... :'( ;D
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P5,250 last day sale last sat.
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P5,250 last day sale last sat.
Saan, bro. So how do you like it so far? Thanks. ;D
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Moses Aaron. Nakausap ko si mike ayaw nga nya ako bigyan pa ng additionla discount. Check mo kay mike baka may stock pa sya.
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Moses Aaron. Nakausap ko si mike ayaw nga nya ako bigyan pa ng additionla discount. Check mo kay mike baka may stock pa sya.
Meron na bro, dun naman talaga ako kumukuha sa kanya. I got my towers for 5,100. I got 3 pairs of bookshelfs for 2,650 per pair and my center for 1,650. Mura na rin kuha mo, bro. He usually gives it to others at 5,600, then he gives an extra 5% sa mga suki, he gives me 7%, kasi I send business their way, and kumpare ko si Mike. Hehe. ;D
So, how'd you like the Euros 8? Thanks.
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I'm gonna use it mainly for ht that's why i'm very satisfied with it. Even better than using may bose am3. Lumabas sa euros yung butas na frequency sa mga cubed speakers although i think it's more boomy than the bose am3 (probably my room). All in all for 5T bucks, i'm very happy with it. I'm gonna have a separate system for my audio so i'll probably buy a better speaker set and I already asked my sister in the states to buy 2 sets of those cheap sonic class t amplifiers para hindi na ako gumasta sa napakamahal na mga tube amps.
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hirap talaga kapag nakarinig ka ng ibang mga brand na speakers, magkakaroon ka ng point of comparison. mga dai-ichi speakers kse for beginners sa ht ok lang pero once na nakarinig ka ng more expensive na brands of speakers duon mo ma discern yung sinasabi ng ibang mga audiophiles na nag di-disappear sa room yung sound, with grace and finesse and so forth...etc. dai-ichi's kse medyo walang finesse, puro power lang.
my sentiments exactly... if you own dai-ichi made speakers dont listen to branded speakers kundi diretso check-in sa SARS ward ng pinoydvd! sa kaso mong nahawa kaagad ibang sakit yan..sa meninggo ward yan..ehehehe
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my sentiments exactly... if you own dai-ichi made speakers dont listen to branded speakers kundi diretso check-in sa SARS ward ng pinoydvd! sa kaso mong nahawa kaagad ibang sakit yan..sa meninggo ward yan..ehehehe
Sir may i just make a lil qualification -- ;D "if you own dai-ichi made speakers dont listen to branded speakers, while you have money in your hands , kundi diretso check-in sa SARS ward ng pinoydvd!"
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Sir may i just make a lil qualification -- ;D "if you own dai-ichi made speakers dont listen to branded speakers, while you have money in your hands , kundi diretso check-in sa SARS ward ng pinoydvd!"
my version:
"if you own dai-ichi made speakers and more into music than ht, dont listen to better branded speakers, while you have money in your hands, kundi diretso check-in sa SARS ward ng pinoydvd!"
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Kaya nga ayaw ko na uli marinig yung ibang expensive audiophile speakers e, sumasama lang loob ko. I just made my self be contented with what I have and what I can afford. :'( ;D
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mas ayos ba naka spikes yung euros8? d ko pa linalagay eh.
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i have several locally made speakers -- but what the heck! theyre the best for their price -- ;)
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my version:
"if you own dai-ichi made speakers and more into music than ht, dont listen to better branded speakers, while you have money in your hands, kundi diretso check-in sa SARS ward ng pinoydvd!"
my version:
"if you own dai-ichi made speakers and more into music than ht, LISTEN to better branded speakers, from surplus areas while you have money in your hands, IDIRETSO check-in sa SARS ward ng pinoydvd ang dai-ichi and save money in the process and at the same time enjoy a better sound too!"
Being in the Philippines, going the expensive branded speakers of the boutique, is not always OR is not the ONLY way to attain good sounding systems - if you will just open your ears (and is patient holding on to your money)! ;D
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alam ko na ata ang feeling ni Hesus nung sinusulat ang gospel...ahahaha
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i have several locally made speakers -- but what the heck! theyre the best for their price -- ;)
You know what speakers ang talagang inaambisyon ko dati? Martin Logan. Kahit yung Prodigy na lang (Ni-lang ba naman ang Prodigy). Kaya lang sa status namin sa buhay, talagang panaginip na lang sya. Kung sa babae pa, natutunan ko na lang mahalin ang Daiichi, kahit na di sya perfect. He he. ;D
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Didn't know what happened? Bought a set of of lotr rotk extended edition dvd's (p#@*ted) and watched it for two straight nights. Grabe tunog! Ang ganda! Sisiw gb3 at kahit anong thx na sinehan. Pati wharfs wh2 surrounds ko lumabas yung tunog. With my euros8 as fronts I could hear things that I didn't hear in my previous set-up (bose cubed fronts). Probably the rotk discs but I'm gonna watch my other LOTR extended dvd's just to make sure. Ganda talaga ng tunog.
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Didn't know what happened? Bought a set of of lotr rotk extended edition dvd's (p#@*ted) and watched it for two straight nights. Grabe tunog! Ang ganda! Sisiw gb3 at kahit anong thx na sinehan. Pati wharfs wh2 surrounds ko lumabas yung tunog. With my euros8 as fronts I could hear things that I didn't hear in my previous set-up (bose cubed fronts). Probably the rotk discs but I'm gonna watch my other LOTR extended dvd's just to make sure. Ganda talaga ng tunog.
Often times it's the source. I have DVD's that are great and others that are just okay. Want a DVD that has great surround effects? Try getting the "Darkness Falls" DVD, I'm sure you'll be surprised with the surround effects. And yes, we both feel the same way about the towers. Just great, and to think I got it for just 5.1K. ;D
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It ain't the dvd. Probably got used to the bose speakers. Now I'm enjoying my system. Who starred in darkness falls?
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It ain't the dvd. Probably got used to the bose speakers. Now I'm enjoying my system. Who starred in darkness falls?
So you mean you played those dvds before when you still had the bose speakers? Well, if that's the case, probably. Besides, the Euros are a 3-way, 4-speaker system and may be better designed. I forgot who starred in Darkness Falls, di naman sila gaanong kilala. It's just a DVD that can give your rear speakers a good workout. ;D
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hirap talaga kapag nakarinig ka ng ibang mga brand na speakers, magkakaroon ka ng point of comparison. mga dai-ichi speakers kse for beginners sa ht ok lang pero once na nakarinig ka ng more expensive na brands of speakers duon mo ma discern yung sinasabi ng ibang mga audiophiles na nag di-disappear sa room yung sound, with grace and finesse and so forth...etc. dai-ichi's kse medyo walang finesse, puro power lang.
I disagree. When you listen to expensive speakers notice that the room is properly treated. That's the secret of good sound, as audiophiles would say - "the speakers dissapear" - the room reacts positively with the sound in a way that the sound envelopes the listener, making the speakers disappear and making the sound pleasant to the ears. Try placing a dai-ichi speaker inside the treated room and you'll be surprised on how the sound from these speakers improve. BTW, even megabuck speakers will sound awful when placed inside a improperly treated room
Proper room treatment and proper speaker positioning is the key to good and pleasurable listening
Just my opinion. Cheers.
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Aside from room treatment, just to add...speakers that cost 2x,3x or even 5x does not commensurate to equivalent improvement.
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Even my wife could clearly hear the difference between my previous set-up and the euros. The first week I used it sabi ko parang walang difference at malakas lang yung bass yun pala break in lang ang kailangan. I wonder what will this sound after 3 months. I've been comparing the sound weekly using my david benoit cd's and I swear every week it keeps on getting better. Can't wait for my next project, a separate audio set-up (digital amp, sacd/dvd audio player and mid-priced speakers). Tagal pa 13th month.
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Aside from room treatment, just to add...speakers that cost 2x,3x or even 5x does not commensurate to equivalent improvement.
I agree with both you, bro, and sir Jagner. The basis of any speaker should be the price to performance ratio. Of course those speakers that cost about 5x more SHOULD sound better, heck, they burn your pocket, your wallet and even your credit card. But considering how inexpensive speakers like the Euros and the Diamonds sound, I'm sure you'd say your money was well spent. Heck, I'd sure love to get a pair of Martin-Logan's Prodigy or Monitor Audio's Gold series towers, but at 190 thousand? I highly doubt that the difference in performance is directly proportional to the price difference. Can anyone say that twice the difference in performance is worth the price difference that's 10 times more? I respect anybody who swears by and loves their expensive speakers, hey, I'd sure love to have speakers like yours, but if this is all one can afford, isn't it a nice thought that you get better value for your money? Just me. ;D
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Even my wife could clearly hear the difference between my previous set-up and the euros. The first week I used it sabi ko parang walang difference at malakas lang yung bass yun pala break in lang ang kailangan. I wonder what will this sound after 3 months. I've been comparing the sound weekly using my david benoit cd's and I swear every week it keeps on getting better. Can't wait for my next project, a separate audio set-up (digital amp, sacd/dvd audio player and mid-priced speakers). Tagal pa 13th month.
Similar results we have bro, the entire family can't tell if the sub is on or not. I'm glad I was able to buy the Euros at a bargain price. ;D
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I agree with both you, bro, and sir Jagner. The basis of any speaker should be the price to performance ratio. Of course those speakers that cost about 5x more SHOULD sound better, heck, they burn your pocket, your wallet and even your credit card.
Not necessarily. Hand-built speakers can be 10X more expensive than mass-produced speakers of the same material, but not always sound better, depending on what you value most.
But many exotic speakers have qualities that stand out over many entry-levels. Like better phase and time coherence between drivers, or wider bandwidth due perhaps to the use of more exotic ribbon tweets. They may have better mids and highs but often at the expense of deep bass. You'd notice that most expensive bookshelf speakers have inadequate bass responses. But in terms of mids and highs, nothing below their price range can come close. Makers of such bookshelf monitors go for optimum performance in mids and highs, knowing that the serious audiophile market will be getting subwoofers anyway.
OTH entry and mid levels make compromises or thread the middle ground so that they can generate the widest possible spectrum to appeal to the widest possible market. Their bass may go further down to 45hz and highs up to 18khz which is essentially good enough to many people. But they could suffer from non-flat responses due to inadequate crossover filtering and resonant peak controls that more expensive speakers have. Or undamped cabinetry that can load the drivers due to internal standing waves. Or have diffractive qualities that the more expensive ones have tamed due to more elaborate carpentry processes like the use of cabinet curvatures, instead of sharp edges. Or they can suffer from time and phase incoherence that the more expensive ones have corrected by aligning driver voice coils in a more elaborate cabinet design. Or they can peak at 70hz to impart SLAM that is often impressive to the general market.
My point is, many expensive speakers are without parallel in one or two areas, excellent in many respects, average or poor in other areas. Never ALL. While entry and mid levels attempt to be merely good in ALL areas, in the process, compromises are made in their design and production as well as the materials used so they can still make money at the prices they offer. You have to bear in mind that all affordable products are products of compromises for their low price. They try to be many things to many people. (Admittedly, China's cheap labor rate is making excellent speakers designed in Britain to be increasingly affordable as compared in the past when they were still made in Britain.)
But considering how inexpensive speakers like the Euros and the Diamonds sound, I'm sure you'd say your money was well spent. Heck, I'd sure love to get a pair of Martin-Logan's Prodigy or Monitor Audio's Gold series towers, but at 190 thousand? I highly doubt that the difference in performance is directly proportional to the price difference. Can anyone say that twice the difference in performance is worth the price difference that's 10 times more? I respect anybody who swears by and loves their expensive speakers, hey, I'd sure love to have speakers like yours, but if this is all one can afford, isn't it a nice thought that you get better value for your money? Just me. ;D
The use of Ribbon and Planar drivers will definitely up the price of any speaker. Martin Logans and MAs are nothing compared to the P3.0M B&W Nautilus or Wilson Audio which are not even using planars. Sonic superlatives are never proportionate with stratospheric prices. Even a mere almost imperceptible off-axis improvement of 1db can cost thrice the price. That's because manufacturers have always known that many audiophiles are prepared to pay a premium for incremental sonic improvements they perceive to be there based on their personal value judgement. . To hear a faint triangle that seems to float above the orchestra, they are prepared to pay 10X more than a speaker that is generally good, but can't resolve the same faint triangle. But for others who may not give a hoot about triangles, the price difference is not worth it. Serious audiophiles have different value judgements over the casual listener.
Expensive speakers are unbelievably detailed when listening to a full orchestra. These are typically your planers and electrostats like the Magnepans and Martin Logans. Their mids and highs are simply without parallel among entry and mid priced speakers. But their bass sucks, requiring an equally competent sub. That's what I mean above.
Once you're deep into the hobby, having a discerning ear can be curse on your pocket. ;D But sonics are not entirely the lone criteria for getting a speaker. The looks department have a lot to say. On Jazz materials, I am hard pressed to discern any sonic difference between a Sonus Faber Concertino and B&W 602 at half price. But if I can afford, I'd still get the SF because the looks alone is music to my eyes. ;D Cabinetry is another determinant of price. SF uses multi-sectioned real wood instead of the cheaper MDF. The craftmanship is definitely museum quality. Others would opine such efforts have nothing to do with sonics. Maybe. That's another for your value perception.
And perhaps more telling is the fact that in this hobby, price-performance is not everything. At the other extreme, social status can compel your choices. Pride of Ownership. Bragging Rights. Like Cellphones. ;D Little or Nothing to do with sonics at all. Just my thoughts.
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Not necessarily. Hand-built speakers can be 10X more expensive than mass-produced speakers of the same material, but not always sound better, depending on what you value most.
And perhaps more telling is the fact that in this hobby, price-performance is not everything. At the other extreme, social status can compel your choices. Pride of Ownership. Bragging Rights. Like Cellphones. ;D Little or Nothing to do with sonics at all. Just my thoughts.
Remember how many people have fallen for the Bose Acoustimass systems then? I was one of them too, luckily, I didn't have the capacity to purchase such a deception.
Pride of ownership, bragging rights.... Social status..... Somehow even I would agree... ;D
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Remember how many people have fallen for the Bose Acoustimass systems then? I was one of them too, luckily, I didn't have the capacity to purchase such a deception.
That Bose Accoustimas is probably the odd-man-out among expensive speakers. Bose was not in my mind when I posted above. ;D I have no doubt there are other similarly overpriced speakers. I personally would consider that P100T ++ Mark Levinson RED ROSE bookshelf speaker as among them. Paying so much for the benfit of a ribbon tweeter I know I can get elsewhere at a fraction is not my idea of a commensurate benefit. That's my personal value judgemet, by the way.
But there are more logically priced speakers that are expensive for their qualities. Whether or not the price seem commensurate to the aural benefits is a matter of personal value judgement and wallet. ;D
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Now, doesn't that all boil down to one line?
And that's: Get the best equiptment that your money can buy. ;D
Thanks, sir AV. ;)
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To sir AV,
Nice and well perceived explanation.!! :owala ba kayong mga kamay dyan...it's nice to read from a guru..who really has a deep (ear) and technical experience. ;D ....sa akin lang eh..if you have the bucks..let your bucks hear & go for it...if you don't have the bucks..let your pocket hear first..hehehehe
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To sir AV,
Nice and well perceived explanation.!! :owala ba kayong mga kamay dyan...it's nice to read from a guru..who really has a deep (ear) and technical experience. ;D ....sa akin lang eh..if you have the bucks..let your bucks hear & go for it...if you don't have the bucks..let your pocket hear first..hehehehe
Believe me, bro, that guy has my respect.
Here's my version of your line: If you have the bucks, then buy what your ears want, if you don't have the bucks, first see what you can afford and buy what your ears like from the choices that are available to you. He he. ;D
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To sir AV,
Nice and well perceived explanation.!! :owala ba kayong mga kamay dyan...it's nice to read from a guru..who really has a deep (ear) and technical experience. ;D ....sa akin lang eh..if you have the bucks..let your bucks hear & go for it...if you don't have the bucks..let your pocket hear first..hehehehe
I applaud this guy! I truly enjoy reading through the stuff he writes. Incredible source of knowledge.
I even put a respectable DJ-like voice in my head when I read his threads ;D
Parang yung mga voice sa test DVDS.... LEFT SURROUND....FRONT LEFT... CENTER.... ;D
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My goodness. I'm speechless. ;D Just sharing what I know, corrections welcome. Thanks.
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Where is Moses Aaron shop located?
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Where is Moses Aaron shop located?
623 G. Puyat St., Quiapo, Manila. Tel. No. 7354390
Malapit sya sa Metrobank Raon. ;)
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hi there! just wanted to ask a couple of questions:
1. any price update for the Euros 6, 8 and pl100 (if they are still available :) )?
2. if not available, what is their current line na similar?
3. would a yamaha rxv-450 be a match with these? if not what would?
greatly appreciate your help guys! baguhan kasi ako... don't understand ohms and watts and their relationship :( :)
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hi there! just wanted to ask a couple of questions:
1. any price update for the Euros 6, 8 and pl100 (if they are still available :) )?
2. if not available, what is their current line na similar?
3. would a yamaha rxv-450 be a match with these? if not what would?
greatly appreciate your help guys! baguhan kasi ako... don't understand ohms and watts and their relationship :( :)
1. The last time I asked, the Euros 8 are at 10K++, the Euros 6 at around 9K, the pl100 also at around that same price range. Yes, they are still available. Try calling Moses Aaron at 7354390 to confirm prices, malay mo, baka mas mababa sya ngayon.
2. I don't think Daiichi has come up with a new product in the full-sized category yet, they have new models but those that belong in the compact to mid-sized category only. At that 10K price range, it maybe better to get Wharfedales, and you heard that from a Daiichi fan. The Euros would be a bigger hit if they were priced a bit lower, some of us here got ours during the sale period when the prices fell down to 50%. I'm not so sure if that's gonna happen again real soon. But I've heard they're coming up with a new line that's identical to the Euros but at a more affordable price range. Can't wait to see those. ;D
3. Daiichi speakers are perfect for Yamaha amps in terms of impedance, since both are rated at 6 Ohms, I even personally suspect Daiichi to copy Yamaha speakers, but that's just a theory (a theory with a lot of proof). Some say that Yamahas are also best matched with Mission speakers since Yamahas tend to be a bit bright sounding, but that involves taste, and the x50 series have improved audio reproduction compared to previous models. If you're planning for a budget set up, try listening to the Daiichi's DTX 9.5 system, a bit weak on bass (but that's what a sub is for), but very, very affordable, the towers rated at 140 Watts and the bookshelfs and center at 100 Watts, more than adequate for the 450. Very good value. Or better yet, go to their showrooms, and audition, and maybe you can find something you'd like.
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thanks for the response arthurallanj! will try that! Thanks!
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I passed by Phasetron in Park Square 1 the day I bought my Velodyne, there is a cool looking new Daiichi tower . It had a removable cover with brushed stainless steel design. Looks cool!
Its about 11k and the center is over 4k. Pero 4 ohms daw sya. Check it out guys, I havent passed by the Megamall showroom to see if they have it. Its a new model that they export daw.
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hi,
can someone please post a pic of the DTX 9.5 bookshelfs? any specs available? i am too busy to diy a bookshelf and it seems that Dai-Ichi speakers will cost less than to diy a pair. ;D
thanks for any help,
JojoD
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san ba sa mega mall yung showroom ng dai-chi? anong floor?
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5th floor. mega b. near carpark entrance/exit.
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pag taas sa elevator nasa right side :)
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Dai-ichi showroom... suggest ko pa rin... have a look at the items in teh showroom, but go to quiapo raon where you can really buy the same items at a lower price. there's a dai-ichi showroom in quiapo too.
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N.B.
DONT buy sa showroom kasi parehas lang sa Megamall ang price. Sa Knight Audio ka mag inquire or sa katabi nya.
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hhmmm... di ko problem yun dealer kasi may contact naman ako sa distributorship. ang big problem ko yun specs at yun sound, sama ko na din yun looks but that's just a bonus, sound important syempre. ;D ;D ;D
galing na din ako sa mega at raon btw.
thanks!
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Guys try nyo rin sa KNIGHT AUDIO same offer din and madaling puntahan, along quezon blvd lang siya. hindi ka pa hirap magbitbit at kumuha ng taxi.
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Guys try nyo rin sa KNIGHT AUDIO same offer din and madaling puntahan, along quezon blvd lang siya. hindi ka pa hirap magbitbit at kumuha ng taxi.
yan ba yun malapit sa Chowking?
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for those interested to purchase any dai-ichi products, PM me and might be able to get you lower prices. ;D
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triplex,
how much kaya discount for 508, 512, 4.10, or 4.12? Pls. Pm Me
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sir triplex, PM me the discounted price ng DTX 9.5 sub..Thanks ;D
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bros, you've got pms
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hello everyone
i have this little problem... here's my set up
AVR: Yammy 440
Fronts and Rears: DTX9.5 Towers
Centers: DTX 9.5C
my problem is this i have to sell my rears because im moving in into a smaller HT room so towers will overwhelmed the room.
what (non 9.5Bookshelves, too bulky) speakers should best compliment the 9.5 Fronts,
im thinking of the BS (515) series
(http://www.daiichi.ph/bs-515.gif)
and this one for rear center (in wall speakers siya)
(http://www.daiichi.ph/sa-400a.gif) may black kaya nito?
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Ngayong nagtaas na ang Euro8, anong magandang substitute naman?
thanks gurus
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Ngayong nagtaas na ang Euro8, anong magandang substitute naman?
thanks gurus
wharfedale. aurum cantus F-series.
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Daiichi now has the Euros 5, right? You guys have an idea as to how much a pair for the towers? How about the sound? My source was right when he gave me the inside info that Daiichi was gonna release a smaller and more affordable version of the Euros. I wanna know now if it is indeed true on the affordable aspect. Thanks bros.
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arthurallan, you got pm
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Ngayong nagtaas na ang Euro8, anong magandang substitute naman?
thanks gurus
I think the Euros 5 would be a good consideration. ;)
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Sir arthurallanj,
The Euros5 is already included in the daiichi website. How does this compare to the Euros8 na binili natin. Thanks. ;)
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What is the price range of Euros 5 or 6? What would be a suitable AVR for those speakers?
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What is the price range of Euros 5 or 6? What would be a suitable AVR for those speakers?
Try asking sir triplex, he has prices. The towers are about 6K+++. I think there are lots of options when it comes to AVRs. I'm sure entry level digital amps would drive it just fine. I'm very happy with my Yamaha 650-Euros 8 set up.
Bro vtec3,
Musta? I think they'd sound very similar to the Euros 6, especially the bookshelfs since they have same sized drivers. I'm sure these pups are a great value for the money, like most Daiichi products.
Take care bros. ;D
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Bro vtec3,
Musta? I think they'd sound very similar to the Euros 6, especially the bookshelfs since they have same sized drivers. I'm sure these pups are a great value for the money, like most Daiichi products.
Take care bros. ;D
everythings great. my euros sounds better now than how it was several months ago, dahil siguro sa break-in. no regret still with the purchase especially with the amount of money lang I paid. although have not had the luxury of time recently to appreciate my HT medyo busy, kaya yung mga DVD's na nabili ko sa sunod sunod na sale dko pa napapanood :)
God Bless
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Yeah, they still continue to amaze me. I am often surprised at the sounds these babes reproduce. Clarity and power and value for money. I think we made a wise buy. ;)
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Agree ako dyan sir art :D
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ako din.
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ako din.
Some may say that's just patronizing your own. But to everybody seeing this: We're just happy about our purchase. It's not about having the most expensive or the best stuff, it's about what you did with your resources and just how much you got for so little. I don't think there's any consolation in having the best equiptment when you have the money, of course you can have the best, you can afford it. It's getting the best for your money that counts, and even moreso if you got something great for so little. Wachatink, bro chits and bro vtec? He he he. Peace, mga bro. Di ako naghahanap ng away. He he he. ;D ;D
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Some may say that's just patronizing your own. But to everybody seeing this: We're just happy about our purchase. It's not about having the most expensive or the best stuff, it's about what you did with your resources and just how much you got for so little. I don't think there's any consolation in having the best equiptment when you have the money, of course you can have the best, you can afford it. It's getting the best for your money that counts, and even moreso if you got something great for so little. Wachatink, bro chits and bro vtec? He he he. Peace, mga bro. Di ako naghahanap ng away. He he he. ;D ;D
AMEN.
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Some may say that's just patronizing your own. But to everybody seeing this: We're just happy about our purchase. It's not about having the most expensive or the best stuff, it's about what you did with your resources and just how much you got for so little. I don't think there's any consolation in having the best equiptment when you have the money, of course you can have the best, you can afford it. It's getting the best for your money that counts, and even moreso if you got something great for so little. Wachatink, bro chits and bro vtec? He he he. Peace, mga bro. Di ako naghahanap ng away. He he he. ;D ;D
sir ganyan na talaga ngayon i think, customer has the option kung ano bibilhin dahil madaming alternatives. often ang hinahanap ng customers now is service then value for money. and i guess we got naman both with our purchase. :)
peace din. ;)
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bros, saan ba meron pinaka murang US Audio 512 ? Price, AV Store name & contact nos. please.
TIA! 8)
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sir ganyan na talaga ngayon i think, customer has the option kung ano bibilhin dahil madaming alternatives. often ang hinahanap ng customers now is service then value for money. and i guess we got naman both with our purchase. :)
peace din. ;)
In the words of bro chito: AMEN.
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bros, saan ba meron pinaka murang US Audio 512 ? Price, AV Store name & contact nos. please.
TIA! 8)
Try Moses Aaron. 7354390. Look for Mike.
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Try Moses Aaron. 7354390. Look for Mike.
other recommended stores.. tnx.
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The Euros 6 and 8 are now on-sale at Dai-ichi Show Room (MegaMall). Got myself a set of Euros8 for 16,490 and other Euros owner (thanks arthurallanj) are right in saying that these speakers are quite good :D . I had it paired with an RXV750.
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i am pretty sure you will enjoy your Euros8 as all owners are experiencing. Wait ka pa until ma break-in yan and you will enjoy it more ;D
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fyi guys. last week i called yung raon branch, may promo raw sila. yung euros8 floorstanders 6,400 lang (from 10,600). not sure kung tapos na. try to call them up to verify (tel no 314-8518).
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bros, just curious -- do we still have those big BS from dai-ichi or micro about 10" drivers that are mostly popular during the 80s? tnx ;D
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Some may say that's just patronizing your own. But to everybody seeing this: We're just happy about our purchase. It's not about having the most expensive or the best stuff, it's about what you did with your resources and just how much you got for so little. I don't think there's any consolation in having the best equiptment when you have the money, of course you can have the best, you can afford it. It's getting the best for your money that counts, and even moreso if you got something great for so little. Wachatink, bro chits and bro vtec? He he he. Peace, mga bro. Di ako naghahanap ng away. He he he. ;D ;D
TAma pre.. wala sa brand yan its more of the sound you like basta panalo sa iyo sound no one can question it.. learn also even yun mga oldtimers in audio prefer DIY or custom made gears than branded coz this gears provide what they're looking. ;D ;D ;D
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TAma pre.. wala sa brand yan its more of the sound you like basta panalo sa iyo sound no one can question it.. learn also even yun mga oldtimers in audio prefer DIY or custom made gears than branded coz this gears provide what they're looking. ;D ;D ;D
Amen! ;D
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fyi guys. last week i called yung raon branch, may promo raw sila. yung euros8 floorstanders 6,400 lang (from 10,600). not sure kung tapos na. try to call them up to verify (tel no 314-8518).
Pares pa ito sir?
Tapos na ba?
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Pares pa ito sir?
Tapos na ba?
sa knight audio, currently P8100 ata (10125, less 20%). sa megamall daiichi 5th floor naman 6075 lang. try calling them sa 635-3111 for details. pares n po ito.
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Has anyone compared the Euros with gale speakers?
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To Euros8 Tower owners . . .
a) What is the settings of your fronts did you set it as small or large speakers?
b) For the LFE did you set as both front and sub OR sub only
The Euros 8 are connected to a Yamaha 750.
Appreciate settings you used to achieve the best sound ??? ... I've tried experimenting kc and cant decide which is the best so I'd like to hear it from others. ::)
Thanks in advance.
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if u have a sub set it to small tapos lfe sub only pero kung bitin sub mo saet it large and lfe for both. I don't have a sub oks nako sa euros 8.
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Ok, currently I've set it at front=small, LFE = Both so far OK naman ang tunog (mas pino) at pag naka Front=Large, LFE=Both medyo mas malakas nga ang bass pero parang boomy on certain DVD's; MP3.
My sub is the 150W na Euro8, bandpass design daw baka kaya mas boomy. I guess I will play around with it. Nagtataka lang ako dahil automatic set-up ng Yamaha naka -8dB sya, nasa 11:00 oclock naman yung volume ng sub. I wonder how it is with other subs, if I make a Y connector (input sa subs L/R) will my bass sound tighter or boomy?
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If I were you (but I am not ;D), and if I am using the Euros 8 (is it the complete package including the sub?), I will do the following:
all channels set to large. I learned this just recently when my brother showed the effect it has in the surround channels including the fronts - it attenuates part of the midrange spectrum that all channels can handle, removing a portion of the body of sounds emanating from the surround channels. Let the surround speakers roll off the lows naturally. The only cons for the front is a possible difficulty of positioning them without it sounding boomy in the bass. This is why sometimes it make more sense that the fronts take only about 50hz and above freq to avoid placement difficulty arising from bass freq if a subwoofer will be employed anyway.
The subwoofer should be experimented on varied position. As subwoofer is an animal that communicates too well with your listening environment, listening experience will depend on the optimum positioning - from muddy, boomy, to tight and tonally balanced with surrounds. The following are factors that can be varied, and may take time - probably not just one sitting - and with correct test materials.
(1) positioning - corner loaded, away from walls, facing any wall, at the back of a couch, etc, etc
(2) adjust cross-over in the sub - since euros8 fronts are LF capable to a certain degree. Thus, try to tune the subw where the euros front cuts the LF (probably at 40Hz or below). At this setting, you might notice that you will not be able to hear the sub anymore since the euros fronts will take the usual bass freq from 40Hz up. But you might hear the euros subw at freq passages below 40 hz if the euros subw can handle it. having the front and the sub take up 100hz/90hz which yamaha sub out cross-over can only result in a further boomy/messy/bad bass reproduction - that putting off your subwoofer maybe the best sonic you can hear out of the euros.
(3) if there is phase adjust in euros8, also play and experiment with it.
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I'm using the complete Euro8 package (Front, Center, Surround & Sub -- almost 1.5 months pa lang), while I'm satisfied wit the way it sounds now, the Yamaha 750 have a lot of options/settings that I like to tweak to get the most of my set-up.
Due to the nature of the room, there is only one place I can put the sub (diagonally positioned beside the right front speaker).
I'll try your suggestion and see which setting will provide the best sound.
Thaks for the suggestion! :-*
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guys help lang po....newbie here po
im planning to get an active sub n i happen to look at the daichi showroom at mega...dami pala sila different brands dun pero puro daichi dba? theres the US audio, DTX, Studio Acoustics and the BP models...
? ko lang po if may differnce in output n sound quality ba yung matls na gamit nila? kasi for the studio acoustics the matl is hard rubber surround and makapal while for the DTX is yung soft surround matl...
i tried both n yung DTX malambot po yung bass , while for the Studio Acoustics medyo tyt n matigas...yung US Audio di ko po natry eh...balikan ko pa siguro
wat wud u guys recommend na pwede mag 'adapt' n pang overall usage sana like ht, games n audio?
n suggest din po kayo ng other subs na pwede sa choices
TIA!
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guys help lang po....newbie here po
im planning to get an active sub n i happen to look at the daichi showroom at mega...dami pala sila different brands dun pero puro daichi dba? theres the US audio, DTX, Studio Acoustics and the BP models...
? ko lang po if may differnce in output n sound quality ba yung matls na gamit nila? kasi for the studio acoustics the matl is hard rubber surround and makapal while for the DTX is yung soft surround matl...
i tried both n yung DTX malambot po yung bass , while for the Studio Acoustics medyo tyt n matigas...yung US Audio di ko po natry eh...balikan ko pa siguro
wat wud u guys recommend na pwede mag 'adapt' n pang overall usage sana like ht, games n audio?
n suggest din po kayo ng other subs na pwede sa choices
TIA!
I'm also a newbie like yourself and I've checked the various email threads/consulted some members here. In the end, it will really be up to your listening preference. They also say that the room acoustics,position will affect how it will sound.
For myself I've went with the Euro8's 10" sub for the price and performance, although I had it repaired just yesterday(after two months). They changed the driver with a higher rating and it sounded much better (mas mabilog ang tunog not like before na minsan muddy, pero baka settings ko din). I've also asked the Dai-ichi Tech and he said that the Euro's8 is their latest model. But if you really want a sub na talaga daw may tama sa dibdib, go for the 15".
Better audition all and choose the one to your liking and budget (although medyo hirap kasi dami choices).
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lawin...something na mga 10" lang sguro...di naman ganun kalaki rum ko eh. san meron ng euro8s? daichi din ba yun? how much po? tnx
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lawin...something na mga 10" lang sguro...di naman ganun kalaki rum ko eh. san meron ng euro8s? daichi din ba yun? how much po? tnx
Euros 8 (DTX, US Audio, etc...), gawa rin ng Daiichi pero ang nakalabel ay StudioAcoustics ata (kasi export model ito). Sa Daiichi,MegaMall - nakasale pa rin ata (price 6,200 for the 10" -150Watts) makikita mo sa demo room nila sa gitna.
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yup dude i saw yung brands na yun. so u got yung studio acoustics? mas ok ba yun than the dtx n us audio?
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yup dude i saw yung brands na yun. so u got yung studio acoustics? mas ok ba yun than the dtx n us audio?
For me ok naman performance nya, both for music and HT. The Studio Acoustics (or Euros) is the latest model, then US Audio, DTX although some prefer the US Audio others the DTX. Again depende sa kung alin sa pandinig mo ang ok --- better audition and choose while still on-sale.
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ah cge l check them out. wud u happen to know if an active sub will work w the sub out of the yamaha tss10? tnx dude!
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ah cge l check them out. wud u happen to know if an active sub will work w the sub out of the yamaha tss10? tnx dude!
I think so . . . let me know what you've chosen and why ;)
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hirap nga pumili dude! kasi i liked the dtx 4.10 yata yung natry ko! kaso may natry naman ako yung dtx5.8! yung 4.10 front firing dba? yung 5.8 yata naka bandpass na..hmmm...tingn mo?
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since daichi po gumawa ng dtx n us audio...ano po difference nila? kasi i saw yung DTX 5.8 and yung Us Audio 508...parang pareho lang sakto sila parehong bandpass po dba?
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lawin wat made u choose the euros 8 sub pala? have u heard the dtx4.10 n Us Audio 508? wat comparison mo with those? tnx dude
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lawin wat made u choose the euros 8 sub pala? have u heard the dtx4.10 n Us Audio 508? wat comparison mo with those? tnx dude
I got an ALL EUROS 8 (Studio Acoustics), as for me it integrates well (matched) sa HT & MUSIC.
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lawin have u tried the US Audio 508? kasi parang same lang din sila ng Euros 8 dba?
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I got an ALL EUROS 8 (Studio Acoustics), as for me it integrates well (matched) sa HT & MUSIC.
Magkano lahat nagastos mo pre? Im planning to buy a set euros 8 this weekend sa megamol kasi mas mura sila kesa sa raon store. Im not satisfied sa sub ng euros 8. parang bitin yung bass. Im planning to get 4.10 or 4.12 instead para feel na feel yun bayo hehe..
Pano nyo naiuwi yun speaker set? Im wondering kung kasya sa taxi yun. sa Novaliches pa kasi ako uuwi hehe..
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Magkano lahat nagastos mo pre? Im planning to buy a set euros 8 this weekend sa megamol kasi mas mura sila kesa sa raon store. Im not satisfied sa sub ng euros 8. parang bitin yung bass. Im planning to get 4.10 or 4.12 instead para feel na feel yun bayo hehe..
Pano nyo naiuwi yun speaker set? Im wondering kung kasya sa taxi yun. sa Novaliches pa kasi ako uuwi hehe..
16,490 (including subs w/c cost 6,420). Kasya sa FX, pero kung taxi kasya kung ikaw lang at driver (masikip ka lang sa harap). Kasi ihihiga mo sa likod yung dalawang towers. tapos patong sa ibabaw yung surround. Yung sub tangalin mo sa kahon para kasya sa trunk kasama yung front. Park ka sa pinakataas na parking para madali pagkarga, anyway kabisao namin ni elmer kung pano pagkasyahin. Happy Listening, yung euros8 kailangan adjust settings pag naset-up mo na.
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Magkano lahat nagastos mo pre? Im planning to buy a set euros 8 this weekend sa megamol kasi mas mura sila kesa sa raon store. Im not satisfied sa sub ng euros 8. parang bitin yung bass. Im planning to get 4.10 or 4.12 instead para feel na feel yun bayo hehe..
Pano nyo naiuwi yun speaker set? Im wondering kung kasya sa taxi yun. sa Novaliches pa kasi ako uuwi hehe..
Ok yan Euros8 I have a complete set too. Value for money talaga. FX siguro kasya pero sa taxi dko sure. Paki update mo na din kung magkano na ang price ngayon, I got mine nung introductory price pa lang ito ;)
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shiyet, mukang I wanna buy a Euros 8 Set.. 16xxx for the whole set?? value un ah! ;D
ano ba pinakamalakas na sub nila ?? yung pinaka "OOMPH" ??
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Bro kt,
AFAIK, the Euros sub enclosures have a different shape, they're curved on 2 sides. The USAudios all have flat panels. ;D
Bro food,
I agree with you. 8-incher subs have less punch. And going the 4.x series is the right path since these are front firers and seem to be the most accurate sounding Daiichi subs. And thet's from a Daiichi fan. ;D
Bro vtec3,
Musta na? Tell me about carrying those things around. :D And taga Bacolod pa ako ha? I had to have the entire Euros 8 system (3 pairs of bookshelfs, a center and a pair of towers) picked up by a cargo forwarder 'coz when I saw those things, I knew, di namin kakayanin. Here's to more years of enjoying the Euros 8. ;D
Bro fweyd,
I'd suggest getting the DTX 4.12. This, at least for me, seems to be the best they've got. I already have the USAudio 512MKII, and this may have the most oomph, but what it makes up for with power, is the lack of accuracy. Bandpass subs are usually very inaccurate. Although, I heard they're gonna have a 15 incher sub out soon. I kinda missed out on the 4.15 kasi dati e. Just me though, and yes, the Euros 8 have great value (These were the only speakers I had that made the next door neighbor knock at my door ;D).
Take care and God Bless, my brothers! ;D ;D ;D
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guys i just got my dtx 4.10 yesterday! tagal ko na pinagpipilian yung euros 8 or dtx4.10 eh. ayun tama nga si arthur the bandpass enclosures are a bit mor powerful...but the 4.10 also gives powerful bass n mas buo sya. ganda din pag sa audio...yung parang ramdam mo yung sipa ng bass like sa drums. hehe just me though...still in the break in period :D
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guys i just got my dtx 4.10 yesterday! tagal ko na pinagpipilian yung euros 8 or dtx4.10 eh. ayun tama nga si arthur the bandpass enclosures are a bit mor powerful...but the 4.10 also gives powerful bass n mas buo sya. ganda din pag sa audio...yung parang ramdam mo yung sipa ng bass like sa drums. hehe just me though...still in the break in period :D
Kainggit! Congrats, bro. Matagal ko na ring gusto ang DTX 4 series, kaya lang may iba pa kong projects na pinagkakaabalahan. Tiis muna ako sa 512 ko. And I'm still waiting for the 15-incher subs that I heard are coming out soon. I hope they bring back the 4.15. Ingat! ;D
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tnx arthur! tagal ko narin gsto bilin to eh! hehe mas masarap ng mag muvis, audio n games! hehe solid bass!
i saw sa mega they hav pa yung 4.12 eh. dont know abt the 15s maybe they can find u a new stok. kasi yng 4.10 ko wala na new stok kaya nag pakuha pa ko sa other branch nila.
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guys i just got my dtx 4.10 yesterday! tagal ko na pinagpipilian yung euros 8 or dtx4.10 eh. ayun tama nga si arthur the bandpass enclosures are a bit mor powerful...but the 4.10 also gives powerful bass n mas buo sya. ganda din pag sa audio...yung parang ramdam mo yung sipa ng bass like sa drums. hehe just me though...still in the break in period :D
sir magkano na ngayon yang DTX 4.10 ;)
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Bro vtec3,
Musta na? Tell me about carrying those things around. :D And taga Bacolod pa ako ha? I had to have the entire Euros 8 system (3 pairs of bookshelfs, a center and a pair of towers) picked up by a cargo forwarder 'coz when I saw those things, I knew, di namin kakayanin. Here's to more years of enjoying the Euros 8. ;D
Take care and God Bless, my brothers! ;D ;D ;D
Medyo busy sa work and had very few chances to use/appreciate my Euros8. Ako had to make two trips to Mega dahil ayaw kung puwersahin pagkasyahin sa aking sasakyan. And its all worth it ;D
Regards & God Bless too
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bro vtec the price is still the same around 6500~ for the 4.10. the euros 8 10" sub nila around 6t~ eh.
i was tempted to get the set of euros 8 nga! ganda pati tower speakers nila...kaso just have a small rum eh...next time maybe! hehe >:D
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Got my tower and center last saturday sa mega. sulit ang bayad hehe.. bumili na din ako ng marantz 4500 para pang match sa Euros8 ko. sarap manood hehe.. kaso DTX5.8 pa din sub ko. :-\ nagtetest pa lang ako kung pano magandang setting sa AVR and speakers.
Sino po ba the same set up sa akin? patulong naman jan hehe.. :)
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food how much did u get the speakers? dapat u got the set with rears na n sub. pwede nga daw ipalit sa set na euros8 yung dtx4.10 eh! how much din yung marantz mo?
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may website ba Dai-Ichi? gusto ko sana makita looks ng Euros at DTX.
TIA
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may website ba Dai-Ichi? gusto ko sana makita looks ng Euros at DTX.
TIA
www.daiichi.ph :)
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although parang iba yung Euros8 picture from what i got. yung sa akin black color ;)
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jojo yung dtx 4 series wala sa website eh. meron nalang dun yungdtx5 n 6 series yata. yung mga yun kasi ibang design na yung enclosure mga naka bandpass na yata. yung 4 series kasi vented ba yun n front firing kaya mas may sipa sya.
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guys,
thanks for the info! i'm looking kasi for a bookshelf speaker that can be used for testing my amp projects. Pwede ko kaya bilin yun bookshelfs lang? Ok pala yun Euros 8, parang Wharfdale 9 series yun shape ng box. :)
kung may personal pics kayo nun bookshelf baka pwede pa share.
Thanks again!
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guys,
thanks for the info! i'm looking kasi for a bookshelf speaker that can be used for testing my amp projects. Pwede ko kaya bilin yun bookshelfs lang? Ok pala yun Euros 8, parang Wharfdale 9 series yun shape ng box. :)
kung may personal pics kayo nun bookshelf baka pwede pa share.
Thanks again!
Sir puwede bookshelf speaker lang bilhin ;)
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uy tnx for the tip bro vtec3!
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food how much did u get the speakers? dapat u got the set with rears na n sub. pwede nga daw ipalit sa set na euros8 yung dtx4.10 eh! how much din yung marantz mo?
6k+ yun tower tas 2k naman yung center (card). Will visit Megamall this Saturday para kunin ko na yung bookshelf. :) para kumpleto na ko hehe.. Saka na lang yung sub. Meron pa naman akong pinagtyatyagaang DTX 5.8. medyo nabitin kc ako sa budget dahil sa receiver hehe.. dapat kasi card yung receiver kaso malaki na patong nya kaya nagcash na lang ako. :) ubos pera ko ngayon hehe.. ;D Btw, 17500 yung marantz 4500.
Tsaka di na euros8 ang kukunin kong sub kasi mas gusto ko yung front firing. Bandpass lang kasi yung euros8.
although parang iba yung Euros8 picture from what i got. yung sa akin black color ;)
Pre, iba nga yung pic sa website. yun saleslady na din mismo nagsabi. :)
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The Daiichi website has always been imperfect in the sense that there are many inaccurate infos in it, like pictues and descriptions. If you try to compare the pictures and descriptions in the site, I'm sure you can tell, like the speaker and driver configurations, even the specs. That's why it's always best to check the item out in actuality. And many great products aren't even there anymore, like the DTX 9.5 series, 4 series subs, and many others. Kaya kainggit kayo dyang mga taga Manila, pwede kayong bumisita regularly sa Daiichi. Me? I have to include Daiichi stores and Raon in my itinerary everytime I visit Manila. But I love Bacolod, hehe. ;D
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food yung nabilan ko ng dtx4.10 sa mega daichi pwede nga daw kunin yung set ng euros 8 tapos instead na yung euros sub, pwedeng dtx4.10! kausapin mo pwede yun! hehe
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hi, based on reading this site mukahang maganda talaga ang daiichi...ang maganda pa is mura siya ito plano kong bilhin na daiichi model US-514 ano model ng sakura brand ang pwede i partnet and kung anong player na cheap lang ang compatible...thanks
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gonefishing dude! yup tama ka dyan sulit na sulit for the price ang daichi! ano yung US 514? iba pa ba yan sa us audio 512?
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food yung nabilan ko ng dtx4.10 sa mega daichi pwede nga daw kunin yung set ng euros 8 tapos instead na yung euros sub, pwedeng dtx4.10! kausapin mo pwede yun! hehe
Kainis nga last time kasi nagloloko yung DTX4.10 nila nung nagpademo ako. >:( Pero yun pa din kukunin ko pag nagkataon. ;D
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gonefishing dude! yup tama ka dyan sulit na sulit for the price ang daichi! ano yung US 514? iba pa ba yan sa us audio 512?
kt, hinde ko rin alam kung iba yun sa sinasabi ko pero slim type itong us-514 here's the pick, guys patulong naman kung anong sakura model AVR ang pwede dito...pls...
(http://www.daiichi.ph/images/us_514.gif)
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gonefishing sori nalito ako tot thats the sub...how much na ganyan nila? have u tried them? chek the euros also ganda din yata yun
food yup ganda nga ng 4.10! actually 4.10 n 5.8 pinagpilian ko eh. mas gsto ko yung vented lang mas may dating for me eh :) bili na na 4.10 dude! hehe
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kt, nasa 18k+ never tried them actually never tried anything, just saw sa site nila and i kinda like the looks of this model compare to the euros...will check them out this weekend...
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gonefishing yup better check them so u can test them individually. post ka nalang reviews mo! tnx n gluk!
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bro gonefishing,
I'm not trying to discourage you from this model 'coz I like it too, but maybe you should checked the specs. Those pretty can't go below 100 Hz. And it is essential for a good HT system to have the sattelites capable of reaching below 100 Hz or you would have to set the sub at a cut off higher than 100 Hz and that would cause localization, or if you decide not to set the sub cutoff above 100 Hz, your system will have a hole in the frequency spectrum. And that hole is the frequency from the lowest response of your towers down to the sub cut off frequency. You might consider looking for other systems. Just a suggestion, though. And that's from a Daiichi fan. ;D ;D
Arthur Allan
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thanks arthur, I don't know anything about the technical side of HT, i just based my choice thru the looks of the said models, so if you say that it's ot that good then can you suggest a different model?
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Gonefishing,
Try the DTX products. It will only cost you around 15k including the sub. ;)
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Try the DTX 9.5 System, although very affordable, it's very capable. Try Moses Aaron, look for Mike, and tell them I reffered you, they might give you a discount. ;D
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Yo! may problem ako sa euros ko (fronts). Garalgal tumunog. :( Di naman ganun dati. Siguro may napindot ako sa setting ng amp ko. Ano ba mga factors na pwedeng mag-cause nito? Parang may narinig ako dati na nasasakal daw yung bass. Help naman jan mga kapatid.. ;)
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Yo! may problem ako sa euros ko (fronts). Garalgal tumunog. :( Di naman ganun dati. Siguro may napindot ako sa setting ng amp ko. Ano ba mga factors na pwedeng mag-cause nito? Parang may narinig ako dati na nasasakal daw yung bass. Help naman jan mga kapatid.. ;)
bro wag naman sana pero possible na may sayad yung speaker. Lifetime warranty naman yan di ba so no worries ;)
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Yo! may problem ako sa euros ko (fronts). Garalgal tumunog. :( Di naman ganun dati. Siguro may napindot ako sa setting ng amp ko. Ano ba mga factors na pwedeng mag-cause nito? Parang may narinig ako dati na nasasakal daw yung bass. Help naman jan mga kapatid.. ;)
Last year, my DTX tower accidentally fell while our yaya was cleaning the living room. It also had that sound but it was repaired by Diichi right away, no receipt needed..
Lifetime warranty is bliss.
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Wag naman sana. :( 1 week palang sa akin yung unit. never nabagsak or whatever. Kahapon ko lang napansin. Napansin ko nung nanonood ako ng "The Matrix" (pted). The part where Keanu Reeves is dodging the bullets. Basta di maganda yung output. Niwey, try ko muna ibang disc baka distorted lang yung sound ng disc na nabili ko. Tsaka pi..ted naman yun hehe.. ;D
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Bro Arthurallanj,
Related to the Yamaha Post, my center and rears are set to small. For "now" its the best settings. I also moved forward the sub (my config is Left, Center, Right, Sub-woofer) from the back wall by some 2" and around 8" from right speaker and I noticed that it produced better BASS. The cabinets that used to vibrate before are no longer vibrating.
Although, I'm wondering why I can hear a good deal BASS sounds in our dining room (likod ng HT Set-up namin) --- is it room acoustics? Pwede kaya sa HT Room mai-redirect yung Bass na nadidinig namin sa dining room?
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bro lawin! thats a euro sub ur using dba? yun din kasi prob ko lakas mag vibrate pati cabinets n windows. so di mo sa corner nilagay yuung sub? yung dtx4.10 ko kasi sa corner ko nilagay eh. how about if i put it in the middle? ???
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bro lawin! thats a euro sub ur using dba? yun din kasi prob ko lakas mag vibrate pati cabinets n windows. so di mo sa corner nilagay yuung sub? yung dtx4.10 ko kasi sa corner ko nilagay eh. how about if i put it in the middle? ???
Wala yung sub sa corner. Inadjust ko din cross-over; settings; etc... on-going expirement. for now, nawala na yung vibration at mas naimprove pa yung BASS. Try moving it around your rooom, pero always play the same piece of music para macompare mo difference.
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bro lawin san naka set yung freq ng sub mo na ok? ano naexperience mo sa mga experiments mo like kung sa corner mo nilagay or differences sa cutoff...share naman para may idea ako bro! tnx! :D
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bro lawin san naka set yung freq ng sub mo na ok? ano naexperience mo sa mga experiments mo like kung sa corner mo nilagay or differences sa cutoff...share naman para may idea ako bro! tnx! :D
Knob settings (simila sa watch):
1) Phase at around 1:30pm or 120-130 degrees
2) Cross Over at around 10-10:30 or roughly 80
3) Volume at around 11-11:30
Pag corners medyo boomy, pag masyadong malapit sa tower speaker parang muddled ng konti yung BASS. Pag masyadong malapit sa back wall mas nagvibrate yung walls /cabinets. Konti-konti lang kung adjust ko kasi fixed na talaga ang pagpuwpestuhan ko. Distances sa wall ng front speakers ko ay round 8" yung sub around 2"- 4" naka slant kc ng konti towards sa listening area namin. Problem ko lang ciguro ngayun ay room acoustics, baka maglahay ako ng foam sa mga wooden walls sa likod ng mga speakers & sub (depende sa WAF).
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bro lawin tnx for the review....hav u tried the different cutoffs? so yung 10 oclock is the best na for ur setup? pano pala yun wen they say "boomy" na? some say "boxy" din....pano po ba mga yun?
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Bro Lawin,
Here's an advise I've read from the net: To find the best position for your sub, EXPERIMENT! and literally get on your knees and hands and start crawling! To discuss room acoustics would require us a whole lot of time and space. There is generally no specific rule when it comes to speaker positioning since each room has its own individual acoustic characteristics. Each room is unique. So, it would probably take a an expert to set your system up to it's optimum performance configuration. But who can afford a professional? Especially us who are on a budget. So, I guess you already found the secret, experiment! And please, never underestimate your own ears. What good is a setting that's been done by experts and professionals if it doesn't sound good to you? And to think it's YOUR home theater. It's quite hard to do a diagnosis on your equipment unless you have a totally neutral room. If you can afford to have your entire HT room acoustically insulated, then maybe that's the only time you can actually say what really works for a certain kind of equipment. Besides, as they say, experience is the best teacher, so let your ears learn more everytime by constanly listening to different systems and sources, and maybe you'd also find what suits your taste. What I can do is help you with some useful infos. Give me your email ad, then I'll send you some materials I found to be helpful and might aid in answering the questions you have. ;D
Just a question, bro, is that 2 inches and 8 inches? Or feet? And I really wouldn't wonder why you have a lot of vibrations in your room. Why? Well, for starters, if you have the Euros 8 towers, definitely! Those babes have dual 8-inch drivers and can go down to 50 Hz, why wonder? And remember, subs and speakers that can generate great LFE signals should be given room to breathe since they move around a lot of air. I'm quite sure your towers and sub are both often generating the same frequencies, that's why there seems to be an "over-adequacy" of bass in your room. That's why when you set the other speakers to SMALL, you experienced cleaner and better bass reproduction since that setting filters out all the frequencies below the set crossover, say 90 Hz, from all the other speakers to just the sub. Kaya siguro ganun ang effect sa room mo. But that's just a theory. ;D
Oh and aah, you may be hearing better bass sounds in your dining probably because, your HT room already filtered out all the room reverberations and mid bass frequencies and other impurites and left out all the lower bass frequencies for you to hear, since the lowest bass signals are the hardest to contain, that's why you hear this cleaner sounding bass. ;D
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Bro Art,
Tried to send an email. Anyway sent you a PM. thanks in advance . . .
Medyo naka palihis yung sub from the back wall kaya 2" to 8" (now its 4"). My partition walls/cabinets are plywoods while my flooring in the listening area are ceramic tiles. I know somehow it affects the sound. Right now I'm gathering foams (parans lalagyan itlog) to place in between the walls (kung papayagan ni wife na magbukas ng walls??
cheers...
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Hey bro Lawin,
I don't think there's a need to open up the walls, putting up some curtains may help a lot. Or maybe the panels just need to be nailed better. Do something about the wall surface not inside it. You need to insulate the wall surface. You can also use flat acoustic insulation tiles, these would look better than eggshell tray foam. I'm quite sure the wifey won't like the way the eggshell foam would look on the wall. And maybe put a carpet on the floor. And I'm sure you have a plush sofa set in the HT area. Furnish the area a lot with other sound absorbent stuff. The general rule is, never have to bare walls that are opposite each other. And ahh, is that inches or feet? To my knowledge kasi, " stands for inches and ' for feet. Ingat. :)
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Hi Art, saan ba pwedeng makabili this "flat acoustic insulation tiles"? Ano ba itsura nito? Also, mayroon din bang acoustic walls? Pangit kasi pag foam ang gamitin.:-)
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Hey bro Lawin,
I don't think there's a need to open up the walls, putting up some curtains may help a lot. Or maybe the panels just need to be nailed better. Do something about the wall surface not inside it. You need to insulate the wall surface. You can also use flat acoustic insulation tiles, these would look better than eggshell tray foam. I'm quite sure the wifey won't like the way the eggshell foam would look on the wall. And maybe put a carpet on the floor. And I'm sure you have a plush sofa set in the HT area. Furnish the area a lot with other sound absorbent stuff. The general rule is, never have to bare walls that are opposite each other. And ahh, is that inches or feet? To my knowledge kasi, " stands for inches and ' for feet. Ingat. :)
Bro Arthurallanj,
Thanks for the suggestion. BTW, sent you an email sa Yahoo... together with a picture of my set-up. For LFE I use both (SW & Front), para kasing thin sounding sa BASS yung towers ko...
I notice kc when I put inside my hand sa port ng towers na may speaker cloth pa uli na nakalagay tapos may nakakapa pa akong foam inside. ??? Baka hininanaan ng daiichi yung BASS ng bagong labas na Euro Towers para mas bumenta pa subwoofers nila >:(
Other Euro8 Tower owners ganun din pa speakers nyo? ::)
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Hi Art, saan ba pwedeng makabili this "flat acoustic insulation tiles"? Ano ba itsura nito? Also, mayroon din bang acoustic walls? Pangit kasi pag foam ang gamitin.:-)
Try mo sa mga Architechtural suppliers, or sa ibang malalaking hardware stores. THere are many kinds of acoustic insulation materials. These either come in panels, or boards. Here at WRocK Bacolod, our walls are acoustically insulated with boards that are made of some sort of compressed fiber, then may mga butas butas sya, but this is old school. There are many new, and attractive acoustic insulators. Maybe you can make it yourself. I've seen a movieplex here in Bacolod that is Dolby and DTS certified, that uses an inch of dense foam, kinda like Dew Foam, covered with some sort of thick woven fabric. The point here is this, there are infinite possibilities to acoustically insulate a wall or ceiling, you just need to know what kind of materials to use. To tell you honestly, an upholstery shop can acoustically insulate a wall for you, although leather and leather-like materials are out of the question. ;D
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Bro Arthurallanj,
Thanks for the suggestion. BTW, sent you an email sa Yahoo... together with a picture of my set-up. For LFE I use both (SW & Front), para kasing thin sounding sa BASS yung towers ko...
I notice kc when I put inside my hand sa port ng towers na may speaker cloth pa uli na nakalagay tapos may nakakapa pa akong foam inside. ??? Baka hininanaan ng daiichi yung BASS ng bagong labas na Euro Towers para mas bumenta pa subwoofers nila >:(
Other Euro8 Tower owners ganun din pa speakers nyo? ::)
I already answered your e-mail. But for the benefit of others viewing this post, here it is. Try setting the fronts to LARGE, since your settings may be contradicting since you set the LFE to BOTH, that means the sub and the fronts, but you also set the fronts to small.
I still think your theory is unlikely though possible. ;D
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I already answered your e-mail. But for the benefit of others viewing this post, here it is. Try setting the fronts to LARGE, since your settings may be contradicting since you set the LFE to BOTH, that means the sub and the fronts, but you also set the fronts to small.
I still think your theory is unlikely though possible. ;D
I set my my front to LARGE again and like before meron syang bass pero parang anemic nga :( , specially pag di naka-on ang sub. I can only hear some bass from the towers if I put the volume at almost 50% . Siguro I will visit MegaMall showroom again just to compare (...and probably buy bass shakers while there ;D).
Binasa ko nga uli ang manual, pag BOTH pala LFE ang purpose is to boost the low frequency sound when listining to 2 channel sources. So now I set as Front=LARGE, LFE=BOTH, Cut-Off=90. While ok naman tunog nya, I'm just really concerned why I am not hearing good bass from the towers ... maybe its me na mataas expectation na almost subwoofer like ang tunog na inaasahan ???.
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I set my my front to LARGE again and like before meron syang bass pero parang anemic nga :( , specially pag di naka-on ang sub. I can only hear some bass from the towers if I put the volume at almost 50% . Siguro I will visit MegaMall showroom again just to compare (...and probably buy bass shakers while there ;D).
Binasa ko nga uli ang manual, pag BOTH pala LFE ang purpose is to boost the low frequency sound when listining to 2 channel sources. So now I set as Front=LARGE, LFE=BOTH, Cut-Off=90. While ok naman tunog nya, I'm just really concerned why I am not hearing good bass from the towers ... maybe its me na mataas expectation na almost subwoofer like ang tunog na inaasahan ???.
remove 1 channel and listen for the bass. If you have good bass, than with 2 speakers on, you have room cancellations. If one speaker, you still dont have bass, move your speaker to the middle of your listening room, and while playing, move your single speaker left and right to the place where good bass is strong. The downside, you may loose mid range. Its up to you which compromise to get.
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Ofcourse if you set to BOTH, that means both the fronts and the sub will sound off the bass, that essentially will let the sub boost the bass coming from your fronts. But if as you said, doing so still sound bass anemic, you may have room mode cancellations where you're listening chair is. Also, when you already have a sub, why look for bass from your towers?. On a good seamlessly matched speakers and sub, you really shouldn't be able to tell where the bass is coming from. ;D
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Hey Sir AV,
Musta na po? It's been a long time. Not to contest your post sir, but for the sake of discussion, isn't it true that all five channels have full range response? So, some detail may be missed if the lower frequencies are filtered to the sub, right? But I guess that's the purpose of the sub, to take care of all the lower frequencies below the cut off. Just a thought. Sent you a PM sir. God Bless.
Hey bros kt and lawin,
Sir AV is the one who has taught me a lot. He's THE Man!
;D
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bro art! yup i'll try to ask help from sir av if he wont mind :-\
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Guys thanks for the suggestions, I will try it! So its quite possible na may room cancellations ako.
Currently, I can already hear good bass and good integration sa music from my set-up ... although, I can localize where the bass is coming from (the sub) when I'm quite near (around 3 feet) but not from my listening position at around 10 feet. Siguro mataas expectation ko sa Euro Towers na ok ang bass by itself and when I auditioned it sa MegaMall malaks naman, unlike mine.
After trying out the suggestions... I may really have to visit Daiichi show room again.
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question cause im so noobish..
ung LFE, Large, and those things... san na sineset yun? sa speaker ba mismo? or sa AVR?
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avr po sir.
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Hey Sir AV,
Musta na po? It's been a long time. Not to contest your post sir, but for the sake of discussion, isn't it true that all five channels have full range response? So, some detail may be missed if the lower frequencies are filtered to the sub, right? But I guess that's the purpose of the sub, to take care of all the lower frequencies below the cut off. Just a thought. Sent you a PM sir. God Bless.
Hey bros kt and lawin,
Sir AV is the one who has taught me a lot. He's THE Man!
;D
Thanks for the endorsement Arthur. ;D Glad to be of help.
As to your question, each channel in HT receivers these days is capable of full range. But not all DVD materials take advantage of this. And no, filtering the lows to the sub is not supposed to result in detail losses. Unless you have a sonic hole between the mains and the sub caused by wide disparities in crossover points or the freqeuncy response abilities of each that can't allow seamless dovetailing.
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Hi Guys!!!
Went to Daiichi Showroom sa Mega Mall this morning. Inaudition ko uli yung Euros8 tower in stereo mode and without subs, may bass naman sya unlike mine na parang anemic. Say nung bagong staff nila (ala na si Elmer, pinalitan lahat ng dating assigned duon) hanggang mid-bass lang talaga yun design nuon and yu need the sub for deeper bass. Wala din daw kinalalaman yung speaker wires.
They said to bring it back para ma-test and compare ( bigat pa naman nun) or do a test if any of the 8" speakers is working and remove them myself if defective.
Mag-tweak muna ako as suggested earlier before I decide to bring it there for testing/comparison. Maybe its really our room or speaker placements... etc.
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Lawin,
Try mo rin check yung dynamic range setting ng receiver mo. Dapat nasa MAX siya. Kung di ka rin gagamit ng sub, set mo lang sa MAIN yung LFE. Nagiging manipis and medyo mas matigas ang bass pag naka BOTH ang LFE output. IMHO.
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WEEEE
just called daicihi megamall Euros8 tower daw nila is 6+ lang(di ko narinig) haha..
meron po ba kyong picture ng Euros 8 tower?? i mean except from the Daicihi website.. Mukang ito nalang bibilhn ko .. 10-15 lang budget ko e ;D
im still thinking kung Diamond 9.5 or Diamond 8.4 nalang bibilhn ko since Towers lang naman need ko (as fronts) sa tingin nyo worth it ba yung Double the money sa Wharfes ?
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WEEEE
just called daicihi megamall Euros8 tower daw nila is 6+ lang(di ko narinig) haha..
meron po ba kyong picture ng Euros 8 tower?? i mean except from the Daicihi website.. Mukang ito nalang bibilhn ko .. 10-15 lang budget ko e ;D
Got this dun sa mga previous picture post ko. I am not sure if they change na yung color ;) Hope this helps :D
(http://img115.exs.cx/img115/3554/3d-Euros80001.th.jpg) (http://img115.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img115&image=3d-Euros80001.jpg)
(http://img115.exs.cx/img115/2793/69-Euros80002.th.jpg) (http://img115.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img115&image=69-Euros80002.jpg)
(http://img36.exs.cx/img36/9144/q3heuros80002.th.jpg) (http://img36.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img36&image=q3heuros80002.jpg)
(http://img36.exs.cx/img36/1227/w9heuros80004.th.jpg) (http://img36.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img36&image=w9heuros80004.jpg)
(http://img36.exs.cx/img36/4237/p7seuros80005.th.jpg) (http://img36.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img36&image=p7seuros80005.jpg)
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maganda naman pala e.. pero mas maganda talga porma ng wharfes :D
san kya pwede bumili ng Wharfedale na cover ng speaker?? yung black :D
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Sir AV,
Just spreading the love, sir. Thanks din po. ;D
Bro fweyd,
The Euros 8 are much bigger than the Wharfe 9.5. They have similar curved side enclosures. And I've heard both, the Euros has better clarity and better bass. In terms of price to performance ratio, I think the Euros 8 is the winner. But that's just me. ;D
Bro Lawin,
I don't know if you rememeber me mentioning to set the SP LFE to Max just like bro obey said. I'm quite sure you just missed something in the setting kaya ganyan. Good luck. Sarap mangalikot no? ;D
To everybody else interested about Daiichis. The frequency response ratings pala is based on a +/- 4dB level. Just found that out recently. Peace!
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Bro Art/Obey,
Nakaset naman sya sa MAX. Medyo di ko muna "kinalikot" kagabi, galit na si wife eh. Nanuod na lang muna kami ng James Last na Concert. Mostly trumpets, violins, guitars .... ganda naman tunog at bass integration.
Sir AV_Phile,
Sayang di ko pa matest yung bass sweep siguro sa weekend ko sked including yung suggestion ni Sir Ahobbit to check for room cancellations.
??? Di naman siguro maapektuhan yung AVR if I remove one of the speakers. Incidentally, kung may room cancellations ako how can I fix it?
Cheers guys for all the help, specially Bro Art and Sir AV_Phile ;D
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WEEEE
just called daicihi megamall Euros8 tower daw nila is 6+ lang(di ko narinig) haha..
went to Daiichi Mega kanina and naka sale nga ang Euros nila ;D
Pati yung mga sub naka sale :
Euros 8 Sub 6,048
DTX 4.12 7,594
4.10 6,581
Fyi :D
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@vtec3:
is that the euros8 model?? kasi sabi po sa site 3 6.5" Drivers daw un? ???
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Lawin --- kung ako sayo i will borrow muna an amp just to try it with the speakers, before bring those heavy speakers back to daiichi for testing -- baka kasi malaman mo with that kung nasaan and problema... sa amp or sa speakers talaga ;D
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@vtec3:
is that the euros8 model?? kasi sabi po sa site 3 6.5" Drivers daw un? ???
if you are referring to the picture I posted, yup those are Euros8. sometimes as what was mentioned by Sir Art na iba yung nasa website nila as against the actual. ;)
you might want to visit them sa Mega although medyo di comfortable kasi nag renovate sila and amoy paint sa loob.
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@vtec3:
is that the euros8 model?? kasi sabi po sa site 3 6.5" Drivers daw un? ???
A lot of entries in the website are inaccurate. Kahit na sa pictures na lang e, mey entry na sabi triple woofers pero the picture shows two woofers and a mid. Best to just visit the stores.
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kaya ba ng sakura av387a ang euros8? hehe
balak ko kasi bumili ng euros 8 or 6 e, kaya ba ng sakura yun?
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i might visit them this sunday :D baka bumili na rin ako :D
WAAAAH! excited na ako.. kaso nakakahya.. sobrang n00bie ko.. :-X
ano advice nyo ?? first time ko lang kasi bumili ng HT gears :-[
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Guys,
Saw at Phasetron some Dai-ichi speaker on display para sa makati boys lapit na. ;D ;D ;D
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i might visit them this sunday :D baka bumili na rin ako :D
WAAAAH! excited na ako.. kaso nakakahya.. sobrang n00bie ko.. :-X
ano advice nyo ?? first time ko lang kasi bumili ng HT gears :-[
Never be ashamed to ask questions and audition all you want sa store, mababait naman sila doon e. Good luck.
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Guys,
Did some tweaking again and performed calibration via YPAO as we also did some room rearrengement. One thing I noticed though is that the level of the FL speaker was set at 0db while the FR is +2db. I switched the position of the speakers, performed calibration again and now the FL is +2db while the FR is 0 db. ??? Is this normal na pwedeng mahina yung isa or may isang sirang speaker duon sa medyo mahina na tower?
With regards to the Euros8 being bass anemic, I can hear good sounding mid-bass sounds (to the point that I can feel it in my chest at 3ft away) if I turn the volume at -10db listening to a stereo source and yung front speakers lang ang pinagagana ko. Bro Art , tama lang ba ito?
Sir AV_Phile,
I further tweaked my towers/sub-combination using the wav file you sent me. Parang mas maganda naman na ngayun bass transition na although parang masOK for stereo sources pag yung LFE is set to BOTH .and 80-90 Hz ang crossover.
Cheers . . .
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Bro lawin,
That's a possibility. You know, the other tower being not the same with the other. Why not check the possibly defective speaker's individual drivers by placing your ear near the tweeter then covering it with a cupped had and uncovering it again. There should be an audible difference when you do that. The same goes with the midrange. With the woofers, all you need to do is touch the cones or the dustcap and if it pushes then it's okay, or you can get a battery and connect the speaker wires to the battery and you should see the woofers move up or down depending on polarity.
With stereo sources, I found that Yamahas seem to work well with DTS Neo:6 Music. Yamaha HT receivers haven't always been great with audio sources. ;D
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Guys,
Did some tweaking again and performed calibration via YPAO as we also did some room rearrengement. One thing I noticed though is that the level of the FL speaker was set at 0db while the FR is +2db. I switched the position of the speakers, performed calibration again and now the FL is +2db while the FR is 0 db. ??? Is this normal na pwedeng mahina yung isa or may isang sirang speaker duon sa medyo mahina na tower?
Ideally they should deliver the same SPLs to your listening position. And the room accoustics adjacent to or around each front speaker should be identical. That means the room conditions and furtniture situations for L and R speaker placement should be symmetric. Otherwise, you may need to adjsust the left or the right speaker's volume depending on the degree of reverb emnating from the surrounding conditions of each speaker. 2-3db is not uncommon when L and R room conditions are disimilar. I'm assuming that neither speaker has any defect or disparity.
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Ideally they should deliver the same SPLs to your listening position. And the room accoustics adjacent to or around each front speaker should be identical. That means the room conditions and furtniture situations for L and R speaker placement should be symmetric. Otherwise, you may need to adjsust the left or the right speaker's volume depending on the degree of reverb emnating from the surrounding conditions of each speaker. 2-3db is not uncommon when L and R room conditions are disimilar. I'm assuming that neither speaker has any defect or performance disparity.
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WAHAHAHAHA i just got my Euros6 !! WAHAHAHAHHA so nice :D
i was supposed to get the Euros 8 kaso my room is so small, masyadong Overkill...
grabe, napaka value pala ng speakers na toh.. shiet! ang clear.. specially sa new album ng bamboo, Grey Street ng DMB.. :D
I was supposed to get a Sub rin kaso parang di ako satisfied! DTX 4.10 ang na audition ko pati 4.12 .. parang kulang ???
tapos pag nilakasan naman sabog na.. :-\ i really dunno kung ganun tlga un..
well at least im happy with my speakers :D ang complain ko lang dito, medyo matining yung highs..
crap.. di pa na break in toh.. sobrang trip ko na! hahahah :D
i love daiichi .. ;D
got it for 5,7xxx pala.. dapat 5,3xxx kaso card e :)
thanks everyone for recomending me zehh euros ;D
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Congrats bro! Ano nga pala amp mo? You should have also auditioned the USAudio 512. Although less accurate but very powerful. ;D
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Hi Guys!
I've checked my Euros tower speakers as the other ay medyo mahina by 2db (or mas malakas yung isa?) and tried to listen if any of the drivers is not working (tumutunog naman lahat, para lang mahina ng konti yung tweeter nuong isa). I guess I'll let daichi service check it na lang later.
For now enjoy muna namin ulit, specially after I've installed last night a pair of bass shakers sa couch (sarap manuood ng concerts and action movies! the kids really love it ;D).
I'm just wondering na after installing the bass shakers (using the rca output ng euros sub) may nararamdaman kami ngayun na parang hangin na sumusimpit (light breeze) coming out of the Euro Sub (dati ala naman?).. . or nataon lang na nakuha ko tamang setting?
Cheers ....
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bro fweyd congrats! ;D ako di parin makapili na bibilin! hehe ???
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WAHAHAHAHA i just got my Euros6 !! WAHAHAHAHHA so nice :D
i was supposed to get the Euros 8 kaso my room is so small, masyadong Overkill...
grabe, napaka value pala ng speakers na toh.. shiet! ang clear.. specially sa new album ng bamboo, Grey Street ng DMB.. :D
I was supposed to get a Sub rin kaso parang di ako satisfied! DTX 4.10 ang na audition ko pati 4.12 .. parang kulang ???
tapos pag nilakasan naman sabog na.. :-\ i really dunno kung ganun tlga un..
well at least im happy with my speakers :D ang complain ko lang dito, medyo matining yung highs..
s**t.. di pa na break in toh.. sobrang trip ko na! hahahah :D
i love daiichi .. ;D
got it for 5,7xxx pala.. dapat 5,3xxx kaso card e :)
thanks everyone for recomending me zehh euros ;D
gaganda pa tunog niyan bro ;) Congrats :)
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guys, ano ma recommend ninyong receiver for euro 6? around 15k max ang budget.... tapos ok lang ba na 4 towers na lang ang kunin ko and 1 center speaker insted na mad 2-bookshelf ako? ok land ba na next time ko na lang bumili ng sub?
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Parang overkill kung puro towers pero sarap nun. yamaha entry level avr's will fit ur budget. I got my rxv-440 last year at 13.5k. kung gagamitin mo full potential ng 4 towers sa avr baka mahirapan avr mo kasi power hungry ang towers kaya usual setup for ht is bookshelf ang surrounds tapos may dedicated powered sub ka para hindi hirap yung avr mo.
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@arthur
Old School lang haha.. Yamaha Prologic RXV-490 :D . . walang sub out ung tae ;D
kinuha ko ung JL Audio 15" Sub ng kuya ko .. yung pang car.. kinabit ko sa Front Left ng AVR ko.. HA HA HA HA !!! Pwede! :D kaso i need a crossover of somesort kasi may tunog rin lumalabas hndi lang ung "BOOM" or "UGS"
il get a pic soon.. ito lang setup ko..
Yamaha RXV-490
Dai-1chi Euros 6 Towers 100watts ( front left and front right of Speaker Group A)
Sony Bookshelf speakers 80 watts (galing sa mini-component ko.. Front Left and Front Right of Speaker Group B) <-- hindi pa kasi abot yung wire para sa likod ng bed ko as surrounds.. du-dugtungan ko pa.
JL-Audio 15" Subwoofer (hindi ko alam model) (Front Left of Speaker Group B)
so kumbaga, 2 wire nakakabit sa Front Left ng Speaker Group B.. yung isang bookshelf pati ung Sub :)
next bibilin ko cguro bagong AVR para may sariling SUB OUT na pati Euros 6 Center Channel :)
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Sony Bookshelf speakers 80 watts (galing sa mini-component ko.. Front Left and Front Right of Speaker Group B) <-- hindi pa kasi abot yung wire para sa likod ng bed ko as surrounds.. du-dugtungan ko pa.
sir, suggestion ko lang wag ka gagamit ng speaker wire na may dugtong ;)
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guys, ano ma recommend ninyong receiver for euro 6? around 15k max ang budget.... tapos ok lang ba na 4 towers na lang ang kunin ko and 1 center speaker insted na mad 2-bookshelf ako? ok land ba na next time ko na lang bumili ng sub?
I will also recommend a Yamaha kahit entry level lang ;)
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sir, suggestion ko lang wag ka gagamit ng speaker wire na may dugtong ;)
di ko kasi alam pano ko gagawin.. pasok yung speaker wire sa loob ng speaker e.. tinignan ko sa likod walang screws of any kind to open it up.. tapos if ever ma bukas ko nga, di ako marunong mag solder :-\ pag dinugtung ko i cover it with electrical tape naman e?
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I will also recommend a Yamaha kahit entry level lang ;)
ok na ba yun yamaha 450? kaya na ba niya i drive yun 4 tower euro 6 speakers and 1 center?
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di ko kasi alam pano ko gagawin.. pasok yung speaker wire sa loob ng speaker e.. tinignan ko sa likod walang screws of any kind to open it up.. tapos if ever ma bukas ko nga, di ako marunong mag solder :-\ pag dinugtung ko i cover it with electrical tape naman e?
If I am not mistaken iniipit lang yung wire sa likod ng Euros6 (ganun kasi dun sa Euros8). You can read the thread dito sa Pinoy DVD about wires and interconnect, some even says that dapat magkasing haba yung length ng wire ng right & left speakers.
I will recommend also that you use an oxygen free wire (mayron din sa thread na iyon kung san at what brand/type ang recommended both branded and DIY) ;)
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yung bookshelf po yung maikli yung wire.. parang "built in" kasi yung wire nya e.. :-\
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ok na ba yun yamaha 450? kaya na ba niya i drive yun 4 tower euro 6 speakers and 1 center?
In my opinion baka di mo makuha yung optimum performance if ever you decide to use Euros6 for both front and back using a yammy 450. To quote Bro Chito "power hungry yung mga Euros Tower". Also yung mga speakers may kanya kanya functions, but again depende din yan sa nakikinig and kung ano ang gusto niya.
We can ask the experts Bro. Arthur and Sir Av for their opinion ;)
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yung bookshelf po yung maikli yung wire.. parang "built in" kasi yung wire nya e.. :-\
checked my bookshelf just now pero pareho lang ang kabitan ng speaker wire with the tower. ???
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hindi po euros 6 ung bookshelf ko..
Sony sya.. luma na sya.. then the wire goes in the backpannel.. may maliit na butas and i have no idea how to open it.. :-\
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i need to buy a sub na.. hirap nitong JL Audio ko.. ganda nga ng quality kaso di ko ma-adjust yung volume..
if nilakasan ko naman ung Volume ng AVR lalakas rin ung Floorstanders ::)
na-audition ko ung DTX 4.10 pati 4.12 .. ung setting kasi na gs2 ko is naka off yung LFE.. tapos nasa mga 10 oclock yung frequency thing.. pero pag nilakasan parang sabog sya :-\ if hininaan ko naman, pwede na rin kaso walang tama sa dibdib.. di sya gaano ma feel :-\
audition ko kaya DQ-12?? kaso nakakatakot baka di ko magustuhan yung pag ka "hindi accurate" bass nya.. waaah! :'( ano pa bang Ok na sub ? :'(
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Here's my opinion: ;D
In using 4 towers: In the words of Bro Chito, medyo overkill pero ang sarap nun. Remembering the fact that digital movie sources offer full range outputs in all 5 channels, the entire sound spectrum from 20 ~ 20 KHz, so you'll actually hear all the details from the rears too. Although, I don't think mahihirapan ang receiver mo, unless you play it at full blast. Usually, amps supply just around 5 to 10 watts of power to each speaker at normal listening levels. I'm sure the amp can handle that. Read more of this at the "Pioneer 100 wpc...." thread. That info is, of course, provided by the master, Sir AV. On the assumption that the speaker has a sensitivity rating of 89 dB per 1W/1m, that means the speaker is 89 dB loud at a power input of 1 watt when a listener is 1 meter away from the speaker. Then a power input twice of that would add 3 dB to the volume level, so at 2 w, it's 92 dB loud, then at 4 w, it's at 95 dB, at 8 w it's at 98 dB, and so on and so forth. As far as I can remember, an average human conversation is at around 60 dB, a jackhammer at around 100 dB, that's where hearing damage actually starts, if I remember correctly. So, as I said, at normal listening levels, 5 ~ 10 w lang ok na, unless of course you like bleeding ears from ruptured ear drums. So the power issue here is not really an issue. It's more of the redunduncy of your speakers. It may not be necessary and practical anymore, having a good sub and speaker configuration would be enough. But, different strokes for different folks. ;D
Bro fweyd,
The DQ12 is actually a front firing sub so, it's pretty accurate as far as sub enclosure designs could go, a sealed enclosure being the most accurate but requires more power. So try mo DQ12, you might like it, I have this one at home too. The USAudio US512MKII is the one that I'm referring to when I said less accurate ang bass nya since bandpass ang enclosure design nya, but this is a very powerful sub, and I have this one at home too. Audition, bro, that's the fun part. ;D
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may problema yung Euros 6 ko..
well not really a problem.. kasi I have this song where in I sessioned on the drums for this particular guy. Pag nilakasan ko yung Euros 6 ko.. nasa cguro mga 11 oclock position parang distorted yung mid range nya ??? pero ang weird, mid range lang.. hindi yung bass.. eh sa gitna ng frequency range nya un ??? I dunno if its really like this ... sa song lang na toh.. pero sa ibang songs like Jordan Rudess/John Pettruci's album.. parang classical sya for those of u who dont know, Acoustic Guitar and Piano. Malinis tunog nya..
do u guys have somewhat of an audio thing ba na nag swesweep ng Frequency Range ? ???
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Bro fweyd,
Please contact Sir AV Phile 1 if he's willing to send you thru yahoo mail test cd tracks like the one you're talking about. He sent me such files, and I think bro lawin and bro kt too. Sir AV's a great guy. ;)
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Bro fweyd,
Please contact Sir AV Phile 1 if he's willing to send you thru yahoo mail test cd tracks like the one you're talking about. He sent me such files, and I think bro lawin and bro kt too. Sir AV's a great guy. ;)
Sir AV Phile 1 if its not much of a hassle also baka puwede maki send na din sa akin [email protected] ;)
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bro vtec,
just make sure the email ad you give has a large capacity since those files are very large, that's why we had to use yahoo. ;D
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Bro Art my yahoo email is [email protected] :)
thanks very much and God Bless
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Anyone knows the contact nos & person for Dai-ichi products office?
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Here's my opinion: ;D
In using 4 towers: In the words of Bro Chito, medyo overkill pero ang sarap nun. Remembering the fact that digital movie sources offer full range outputs in all 5 channels, the entire sound spectrum from 20 ~ 20 KHz, so you'll actually hear all the details from the rears too. Although, I don't think mahihirapan ang receiver mo, unless you play it at full blast. Usually, amps supply just around 5 to 10 watts of power to each speaker at normal listening levels. I'm sure the amp can handle that. Read more of this at the "Pioneer 100 wpc...." thread. That info is, of course, provided by the master, Sir AV. On the assumption that the speaker has a sensitivity rating of 89 dB per 1W/1m, that means the speaker is 89 dB loud at a power input of 1 watt when a listener is 1 meter away from the speaker. Then a power input twice of that would add 3 dB to the volume level, so at 2 w, it's 92 dB loud, then at 4 w, it's at 95 dB, at 8 w it's at 98 dB, and so on and so forth. As far as I can remember, an average human conversation is at around 60 dB, a jackhammer at around 100 dB, that's where hearing damage actually starts, if I remember correctly. So, as I said, at normal listening levels, 5 ~ 10 w lang ok na, unless of course you like bleeding ears from ruptured ear drums. So the power issue here is not really an issue. It's more of the redunduncy of your speakers. It may not be necessary and practical anymore, having a good sub and speaker configuration would be enough. But, different strokes for different folks. ;D
ok, thank you arthur!!! that's all i need to hear...na pwede siya and kaya ng amp... so ok lang kahit wala na akong sub, enough na ba yun bass sa 4 towers?
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Anyone knows the contact nos & person for Dai-ichi products office?
6353111 Megamall office
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Raon Branch 733-2765 / 3148518
Main Office 645-4891
Tech Assistance 645-6639 ;D
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Matzer/Vtec3,
Thanks bro. Im planning to do mass order and have it delivered here in Singapore. Galing U.S. pa kasi yung mga binebenta dito kaya mas mahal.
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ok, thank you arthur!!! that's all i need to hear...na pwede siya and kaya ng amp... so ok lang kahit wala na akong sub, enough na ba yun bass sa 4 towers?
I don't think so. The Euros 8 towers lowest frequency response is at 50Hz. At that frequency medyo mahina na yan if compared with the response at the higher bass frequencies. So it's still best to have a good sub. Preferably a front firing one. And if you can afford one that's of better quality, that would be great. What I mean with better quality is one that can go as "low as your budget would allow". Yes, subs are more expensive the lower they can go. Entry level subs usually can go as low as 40 or 30 hz. The ones that can audibly go all the way down to 20 Hz are, of course, more expensive. Have fun! ;D
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Matzer/Vtec3,
Thanks bro. Im planning to do mass order and have it delivered here in Singapore. Galing U.S. pa kasi yung mga binebenta dito kaya mas mahal.
Good idea! Busienss minded talaga si JT! Good luck bro. :)
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Matzer/Vtec3,
Thanks bro. Im planning to do mass order and have it delivered here in Singapore. Galing U.S. pa kasi yung mga binebenta dito kaya mas mahal.
Good luck also sa iyong business endeavor ;)
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Sir AV, got ur email (Test Freq.) madaming salamat :) Will test my Euros using those files this weekend ;)
Regards & God Bless,
von
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bumili ako nung saturday ng euros8 bookshelf, buti na lang sale pa sila!
used this with sakura 387a, ok naman, decent for a room starter setup, ok na rin ung bass niya, mas malaki pa itong speakers na ito compared sa subwoofer ng creative 2500 speaker set! hehe
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Congrats on your purchase ;)
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waah!! bakit ung isang speaker ko na Euros 6 Floorstanding, mas malakas yung Low Frequency nya ?? compared sa isa :-\
i tried fiddling with the balance kanina .. nasa cable kaya yun ?? kasi Gauge 14 ung cable ng Left ko.. tapos Gauge 16 naman ung sa right..
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waah!! bakit ung isang speaker ko na Euros 6 Floorstanding, mas malakas yung Low Frequency nya ?? compared sa isa :-\
i tried fiddling with the balance kanina .. nasa cable kaya yun ?? kasi Gauge 14 ung cable ng Left ko.. tapos Gauge 16 naman ung sa right..
That shouldn't matter much, the resistive components wouldn't be that large to result in disparities in the the bass to any considerable audibility as I could glean from your post, unless you really have sizeable cable lengths in the kilometer ranges. Though for simple peace of mind, I'd suggest you have the two speaker cables of the same gauge and length. Do some elimination process. Try interchanging the two speakers first. If the same weakness is perceived on the same side of the room, the speakers are not at fault, perhaps your receiver has disparate bass level settings. Next try interchanging your cables, same process.
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bumili ako nung saturday ng euros8 bookshelf, buti na lang sale pa sila!
used this with sakura 387a, ok naman, decent for a room starter setup, ok na rin ung bass niya, mas malaki pa itong speakers na ito compared sa subwoofer ng creative 2500 speaker set! hehe
I'm also planning to buy one :).
How much bili mo?
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sir imerb PhP 2,646 ang bili, punta na po kau agad, kasi sabi sa akin nung nagbenta magtataas daw sila, magiging PhP 4k na daw!
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di ko kasi alam pano ko gagawin.. pasok yung speaker wire sa loob ng speaker e.. tinignan ko sa likod walang screws of any kind to open it up.. tapos if ever ma bukas ko nga, di ako marunong mag solder :-\ pag dinugtung ko i cover it with electrical tape naman e?
Sorry medyo late na to. Pero I had the same situation, what I did is to open the speakers and I saw the red and black soldered. I cut both but not totally para di ako malito kung saan ko i so-solder yung red speaker wire (gauge 14 oxgen free). Since masyadong maliit yung butas sa likod nung box, I used impact drill para lakihin ng konti yung butas. Dapat sakto lang, after I insert the speaker wire sa loob, I soldered it and then secured yung pinagpasukan nung speaker wire in and out using glue gun para sure na walang lalabas na air.
Try it. Or you can just go to a nearest technician at sya ng bahala. Gagastos ka lang cguro ng 50-100 pesos. Gaganda pa tunog! ;D
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sir imerb PhP 2,646 ang bili, punta na po kau agad, kasi sabi sa akin nung nagbenta magtataas daw sila, magiging PhP 4k na daw!
tnx. Sa Sunday cguro. score ako.
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Greetings to all ;D
I have jst arrived from Raon and bought myself the following:
1 pc. DTX Center
2 pairs of DTX Towers ( for front and rear)
AV-387a
i already have an active subwoofer.
i bought DTX towers for rears since there are no more available DTX bookshelves and
the euros bookshelves were priced as much as the DTX towers, plus, the color
combination would be diferent and wouldnt want to spend more money for stands
(hope i did the rith thing here) ;D
1. any tips on setting up this stuff? ive read the sakura and daichi threads and would
want to get more advise from those who have the same setups. (newbie here) ;D
2. how do you guys "tweak" your speaekrs/set up?
3. how long do you usually break in your speaklers before you get optimal sound?
4. any overheating problems here?
5. do i need to bi-wire anything? any link re: bi-wiring?
6. im curious as havnt seen anyone ask this, are the DTX towers laminated wood
or real wood? if real, then, is it possible to make them into black finish? ;)
(will this ruin the lifetime warranty)
7. these towers dont have anything underneath, what did you guys attach there
so that it wont get damaged or "gasgas"?
thanks in adanvce ;D
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Pre,
San mo nabili yan? san shop? I'm also planning to buy euros na bookshelf.
How much score mo?
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Greetings to all ;D
I have jst arrived from Raon and bought myself the following:
1 pc. DTX Center
2 pairs of DTX Towers ( for front and rear)
AV-387a
i already have an active subwoofer.
i bought DTX towers for rears since there are no more available DTX bookshelves and
the euros bookshelves were priced as much as the DTX towers, plus, the color
combination would be diferent and wouldnt want to spend more money for stands
(hope i did the rith thing here) ;D
1. any tips on setting up this stuff? ive read the sakura and daichi threads and would
want to get more advise from those who have the same setups. (newbie here) ;D
2. how do you guys "tweak" your speaekrs/set up?
3. how long do you usually break in your speaklers before you get optimal sound?
4. any overheating problems here?
5. do i need to bi-wire anything? any link re: bi-wiring?
6. im curious as havnt seen anyone ask this, are the DTX towers laminated wood
or real wood? if real, then, is it possible to make them into black finish? ;)
(will this ruin the lifetime warranty)
7. these towers dont have anything underneath, what did you guys attach there
so that it wont get damaged or "gasgas"?
thanks in adanvce ;D
Hey bro,
Here are some answers to some of your questions:
The DTX 9.5 Speaker systems are biwireable. It's best to take advantage of this feature. Surf na lang the web regarding biwiring. I have an article regarding biwiring and I can send it to you by email.
The DTX 9.5 system is not made of real wood. You can change the color of the box by purchasing wood simulated vinyl stickers na marami sa Raon. It's sold by meter with a 48" width at around 150 pesos. You can use this to cover the existing one without the need remove the old one. This won't void your warranty.
I used to like speakers that didn't have any footing but found out that it was necessary not just to protect the bottom of the speaker but also to isolate the speaker system from the floor.
Hope I helped. ;D
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thanks dude. helped me a lot. i might just stick it out with its original color ;D
so far so good. just have few more questions re: my setup.
1. what specific buttons/ modes do i have to choose whne playing MP3s? i ask becuase when i do play them, only the two front towers work.
2. everytime i turn on my amp, it defaults to tuner in 38 volume, how do i change it, better yet, how do i make it to turn on default on dvd or aux?
thanks and im really happy with my set-up.
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thats also my experience, when i turn the avr off then turn it on the volume is at -58 db, together with the center volume to -60...
what can i do to make it the same settings before a turned it off?
pls advise
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Bro egzbuen,
Playing 2 channel sources, like vcds, mp3s, or audio cds, would require you to utilize prologic processing of the amp. Attach a pair of rca cables to the main left and right out of your dvd player, if it doesn't have that, you're gonna have to use a splitter, but I'm assuming it does, to any other 2 ch input of your amp, say VCD or AUX, then you'd have to set the amp to that input whenever you're listening to 2 ch sources.
As far as my experience goes, the volume level is always at a particular level when it is turned on, in the case of my AV1600, at 18 dB. This is to protect the amp and the speaker systems. But with regards sa input settings, my AV1600 retains the last input setting and other channel level settings. Let's ask other AV387 owners. If ang sa kanila ganyan din, then that means walang memory ang AV387, but if ang sa kanila na reretain ang previous settings, then there must be something wrong with yours.
Sakura AV387 owners? Help here please? ;D
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sir arthur,
in particular sa volume settings lang naman hehe
pero ch setting, mode setting, tuner setting yup pareho lang (same as bago patayin) --- siguro may memory ung avr 387, kaso sa volume lang bumabalik sa minimum...
ung may 387 dyan, pareho ba tau? hehe
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I think this is safety feature. Defaulting to low volume when first turned ON protects the amps and speakers from sudden current surges if the volume is accidently turned up when in the OFF position.
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Bro leomar,
Well, that's the same thing with me, everything is retain except the volume level. I think the real purpose of this is to protect both the amp and speaker. So don't worry about it, besides you can use the remote. ;D
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Ang mga Euros speaker ba ay pwede ba sya sa 8ohms reciever? Thanks
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Good day, suggestions or comments nman po sana dito.. Newbie lng po.. I want to setup an HT using the ff:
OKYO TX-DS484 AV receiver:
1) 100w/ch to each of the 5 channels into 6ohms,20 Hz-100 kHz (+1 dB, -3 dB), EIAJ
2) 6 ohms high-current, low-impedance drive for all 5 channels
3) DTS and DOlby Digital decoder onboard
4) 96-kHz/24-BIT DAC
5) 5.1 multichannel inputs
I2 pa lng receiver ang meron ako tsala 2 satellite speakers from my old sony compo..
Eto mga plano kong bilhin:
Pioneer DV-373 (player)
DTX 9.5T (front)
DTX 9.5C or euros 8 (center)
US Audio 508 or Euros8 (sub) <- which one is better po?
Any comments and suggestions po ay welcome.. Thanks in advance.. Para d ako mgkamali b4 bumili.. Xempre, super kinoconsider ko po budget.. SO malapit jan sana.. thanks and GOD bless!!! mabuhay ang PDVD!!
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^^ pre, bumili ka na lang ng the same speaker model. para at least balanse lahat ang tunog IMO. :)
Sa sub naman, mas ok saken yung Euros 8. Although okay din yung 508. Try auditioning those stuff sa Megamall. kaso di pa fully set yung Dai Ichi sa Megamall kasi nag renovate sila. Na compare ko din yung 508 sa Euros 6. Fanget yung response ng euros 6. :P Mas buo ap tumunog yung 508.
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@ food.. Tnx pre.. Big help ung mga comments nyo... So same Dtx na lng front at center ko.. Sa Sub, un nga eh, d ko ma-audition ung euros8 nila.. pero ung 508, ok... ang layo sa euros6.. hehe.. tnx!!! Eh ung combination sa receiver ko? ok lng po ba?
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bro lordfranz! wat setup wud u be building ba? is it more on music or movies?
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bro kt, mas marami gamit ko nun sa music.. pero kung my difference, priority ko movies.. d nman ako sensitive sa music... tnx!
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bro lord! kasi they say na "wats good in music, is good for ht"...but not neccesarily the other way around... well if youre more into movies then i suggest that u get those bandpass designed subs like the euros8, dtx5.8, or us audio coz those designs wud really give u the BOOM sa movies. for me kasi mas accurate naman yung front firing subs n mas buo sa music...well thats me...try to audition all those n see wat u like ;D try ka lang ng try....well if masungit yung nasa store...sori nalng sila wag ka dun bumili...malas nalang nila at bibili ka naman! hehe :D
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I'd still suggest getting a front firing sub. I'd rather sacrifice punch than accuracy. But that's just me. ;D
Audition ka sa Raon, they've always been mabait to me. Look for Marisse. ;D
For budget considerations, the DTX 9.5 system is the best bang for the buck. ;D Just me though.
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Thanks mga kuya! hehe.. Ask ko lng po.. So between UD 508 and euros 8 eh euros 8 na lng.. pero best ang dtx 4.1 or 4.12? ok po.. About sa center ko nman po.. 100 W po kc ung dtx then 150 ung euros8. Pero P100 lng po diperenxa sa price.. Kya naicp ko na euros 8 na lng.. same manufacturer dn nman po.. Ano po sa tingin nyo? Ung receiver ko po, ok lng po ba with these speakers? Compatible po ba?? Kaya po ba? tnx po.. bka bili na po ako mamaya eh... cguro hnd ko na muna bibilhin mamaya ung sub.. pg-iicpan ko pa.. hehe..
Bro arthur, what do you meant by accuracy po ba? accuracy to what? tnx..
PS: Bkit ayaw ng mga tao sa thread ko?? :'( :'( :'( Same questions posts din nilagay ko dun at dito.. hehe.. cge na nga, d2 na lng.. hihi..
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im using the dtx4.10...well b4 i was choosing among the other brands that i mentioned earlier n i ended up with the 4.10. for me mas tama yung sipa ng bass nya n mas buo. unlike sa bandpass medyo gumagapang na pero malakas but not that accurate IMHO....better if u listen to it bro lord! theres also the dynaquest...havnt tried it though...
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owkie... Marami pa akong time para mg-icp sa SUB, front and center speakers na lng muna bibilhin ko mamaya.. Thanks!
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bro lord cge gluk! balitaan mo nalng kmi sa choice mo ;D
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Thanks mga kuya! hehe.. Ask ko lng po.. So between UD 508 and euros 8 eh euros 8 na lng.. pero best ang dtx 4.1 or 4.12? ok po.. About sa center ko nman po.. 100 W po kc ung dtx then 150 ung euros8. Pero P100 lng po diperenxa sa price.. Kya naicp ko na euros 8 na lng.. same manufacturer dn nman po.. Ano po sa tingin nyo? Ung receiver ko po, ok lng po ba with these speakers? Compatible po ba?? Kaya po ba? tnx po.. bka bili na po ako mamaya eh... cguro hnd ko na muna bibilhin mamaya ung sub.. pg-iicpan ko pa.. hehe..
Bro arthur, what do you meant by accuracy po ba? accuracy to what? tnx..
PS: Bkit ayaw ng mga tao sa thread ko?? :'( :'( :'( Same questions posts din nilagay ko dun at dito.. hehe.. cge na nga, d2 na lng.. hihi..
The reason why I suggested the DTX 4.12 or 4.10 is because it's the only front firing sub that I know of from Daiichi. I'd still suggest you get a center speaker that's the same with your other speakers even if they came from the same manufacturer. Timbre matching is very important. I have both the entire DTX 9.5 system and the entire Euros 8 system and I'm telling you, the two centers have different characteristics. The Euros 8 center is a bass reflex/ported system while the DTX 9.5 center is an acoustic suspension/sealed system. That alone is a big difference. So it's best to get identical speakers.
With ACCURACY, I mean accurate bass signal reproduction. When a certain frequency signal is sent to the sub, say 40 Hz, the sub should reproduce 40 hz. On the assumption that everything else is equal, drivers, amps, etc., but the enclosure, the most accurate is a sealed system, but this requires a higher powered amp, the next would be a ported system, but this design may can easily overdrive the speaker and burn it. The most powerful design is a bandpass system, since it takes advantage of moving air from both the front and rear of the driver cone, moving more air, making it louder. At the expense of accuracy since the driver is inside the enclosure, bass reproduction is, in a way, muffled by the enclosure. It tends to emphasize the resonant frequency of the enclosure. So if, let's say, you're sub is supposed to reproduce 40 Hz, the enclosure makes it sound more like 50 hz if the resonant freq. of the enclosure is 50 Hz. Let me send you a topic about this in your email together with the other one you asked me for. ;)
P.S.: Baka siguro this pertains more on Daiichi speakers, that's why... ;D
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ayan bro lord! tama si bro art sa mga yan! sya din tumulong sa choices ko b4 eh! pero sympre the final choice is up to u parin kaya its best if u actually listen to your choices. better din if u bring your own cds for demo...say for music n movies. though they have din there yung demo disc. but better if u know wat ur listening to dba?
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bro kt, mas marami gamit ko nun sa music.. pero kung my difference, priority ko movies.. d nman ako sensitive sa music... tnx!
When I started this hobby a year ago, I said the same thing, my priority was movies. My declared movie to music ratio was 80/20 or even 90/10. But its a tendency to slowly switch to music since you have the gears already. Now I listen to music a lot, its about 50/50 now.
I also met a lot of fellow members during a speaker shootout last month. They all started on the HT path. And slowly shifted to audio. Now most of them have sold their HT gears in favor of audio cuz they havent been using their HT anymore.
When I asked why, I coudlnt forget what punk_kid said:
"Sa HT after isang panood mo sa DVD, itatabi mo na, pero sa audio, kahit ilang ulit mo pakinggan, masarap pa rin."
I agree.. :)
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I am sort of in that path too. But I plan to have a separate audio set up someday since I've been appreciating my CD collection more often recently because of all the rare cds I got from ebay. Mostly jazz cds. But I think I will always have my HT since I just love movies, and my entire family too. Besides, my inclination for listening to my cds is more on honing my skills as a musician. So that's why. ;D
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bro lordfranz, buy na the front and center speakers ;) value for money i think you will still be ahead even if you decide that you are more into music than HT :D
as for me most of my music time sa car ko na spend and kapag nasa house ako purely HT ako ;D
OT Bro Art, I like listening to jazz music also (Noel Pointer, Chuck M., Dave Grusin, J. K. Neptune etc) kaya lang have not tried purchasing rare CD's thru the net :)
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OT: I still believe that the best route for any system is to go separates. A separate HT system and a separate Audio system. Why did we decide to go separates for HT anyway if we prefer integrateds? I have nothing against HTIBs or integrated mini components, which is already grammatically wrong since you cannot call yung mga mini components, components, since everything is all in one enclosure. If we be strict about it, we can only call a certain system 'component system' if it is composed of components. But back in point, my personal reason for going separates is because I think I'd get better quality, better reproduction, better choices, and of course, practical for upgrades and convenient for repairs in the sense that you only need to bring the defective unit in for repairs or replacement, and not the whole system.
OT, too: Hey bro, I like Nelson Rangell, David Sanborn, Gerald Albright and Eric Marienthal (notice those are all sax players, since I play the sax, too.), David Benoit, The Rippingtons, Michael McDonald, Anita Baker. I like R & B, too. Brian McKnight, Boyz II Men, Babyface, etc. Try ebay bro, I usually get my CDs for cents lang, but there's the shipping that has to be considered, parang bumili ka rin lang ng cd dito, but those cds di mo makikita sa Pinas. ;D
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Ayan ngaun lng po ngkatime magreply.. maraming salamat po sa lahat! bro art, gets ko na po "ACCURACY" lessons mo.. hehe... Uhmm... Sayang.. d o umabot comment mo about sa center speaker... nkabili nko kahapon.. hehe.. pero ok nman po sound.. Gusto ko ung bass.. astig!! namomodify nman po sa receiver ung functionality ng bawat speaker eh.. aun.. tinimpla ko na lng sa panlasa ng tenga ko.. hehe.. thanks po..
Sa SUB, hnd muna ko bumili.. pag-iicpan ko pa.. kaso I auditoined ung 4.10.. ok nga tunog pero napakalaki!!! la na space sa room ko.. hehe.. mga 9 X 5 meters lng po kc un.. andun na rin cabinet ko and stuff.. pati TV.. hehe.. Il go with the 508 na lng po cguro... or bka my alam kau na maliit ng konti sa 4.10 pero front firing din.. kahit d dai-1chi basta close presyo.. hehe.. thanks!! Any tips po na dapat kong gawin sa bagong purchase? like sa setting up, tweaking? break in? or anything? salamat po.. maraming salamat!
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hehe.. mga 9 X 5 meters lng po kc un..
9 x 5 meters, that's relatively a large room already. ;D
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bro lord try mo din yung dynaquest...not sure if wat size...i saw 1 at listening room mega n mas maliit sya compared sa 4.10. havent tried it though...
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Ok lang ba. If i use Euros bookshelf as front speakers?
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Bro lmerb,
Of course. But they'd have to be placed at ear level, so you're gonna need stands or wall brackets. ;D
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bro AV, ahehe... mjo masikip pa ri po.. my mesa, sofa, cabinet, PC, AbPro ba pang work-out, etc pa po.. hehe..
thanks bro kt.. Cge I'll check it pag bibili nko.. DQ 12 un dba?? thanks!!
bro art, salamat sa instructions... Nadownload ko na.. hehe.. BIG thanks!!!
ASTIIIIIIG!!!! Ganda ng tunog... hehe...
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bro lord musta na setup mo? wat na choice mo? ;D
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Bro kt, ok nman.. Astig.. ganda tunog.. kahit wala pa ung rear ko <nasa province pa eh, pinapadala ko pa dito> eh astig!! Imiikot.. I watched ung harry potter.. hehe.. ganda! Sa Sub, mg-iipon pa rin ako eh.. 1k pa lng ipon ko 4 sub.. hehe... most likely eh 508 na lng.. dahil nga sa space.. ilalagay ko lng xa sa ilalim nung cabinet ko kung saan andun din TV, receiver, player at center ko.. sa ilalim nung receiver ko ilalagay.. hehe.. masama ba un kung kulong ung sub?
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bro lord wat speakers did u get na ba? abt sa sub placement...there are times kasi na a sub closer to a wall/corner can get too boomy, so u hav to move it away sa wall to lessen the boominess. wat do u mean by kulong yung sub? kasi consider mo din if u plan to get the dtx 5.8 its rear ported bro!
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Bro kt, Ah... I settled with DTX 9.5 as my front and euros8 as my center.. Ang rear ko eh old compo speaker na lng.. hehe... Abt dun sa sub, ung "kulong", as in parang nklagay xa sa box. my empty space kc sa ilalim ng cabinet ko<asa cabinet dn ung tv> sa ilalim ng tv, dun ko balak ilagay ung sub.. kulong as in ung harap lng ang kita.. hehe.. un po.. nga pala, 4.10 gamit mo dba? bka nman po pwd mahingi dimension nya.. para susukatin ko dito, malay natin kasya pala.. hehe..
KUNG sino man po sana sa mga nakakabasa nito ang my DQ 12 and or US 508, hingin ko po sana dimension nila.. para susukatin ko lng sa paglalagyan ko.. Maraming salamat po!
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I would never suggest placing a sub in an enclosed space. Subs move a lot of air so they need to breathe. But that's just me. :)
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mga expert, ok na ba itong set up ko? bibili na ako ng daiichi euro 6, four floor standings(instead of 2 bookshelf and 2 floor standing) and center w/o sub for my 3x3 TV room ok na kaya ito? or should I still get the sub? it will be drive by a yamaha 450...,
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bro lord tama si bro art! magiging kulob din yung output ng bass mo pag ganun. mas maganda pag open yung space nya. lalo na nga yung 5.8 rear ported sya. i'll check ltr the specs bro!
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mga expert, ok na ba itong set up ko? bibili na ako ng daiichi euro 6, four floor standings(instead of 2 bookshelf and 2 floor standing) and center w/o sub for my 3x3 TV room ok na kaya ito? or should I still get the sub? it will be drive by a yamaha 450...,
Pre, you'll miss 50 % viewing experience pag wala kang sub. ;)
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Here's my reply to a previous post, your post. ;D
I don't think so. The Euros 8 towers lowest frequency response is at 50Hz. At that frequency medyo mahina na yan if compared with the response at the higher bass frequencies. So it's still best to have a good sub. Preferably a front firing one. And if you can afford one that's of better quality, that would be great. What I mean with better quality is one that can go as "low as your budget would allow". Yes, subs are more expensive the lower they can go. Entry level subs usually can go as low as 40 or 30 hz. The ones that can audibly go all the way down to 20 Hz are, of course, more expensive. Have fun! ;D
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Pre, you'll miss 50 % viewing experience pag wala kang sub. ;)
I fully agree. For me, a HT experience is not complete without the subs. It (and surrounds) carries the HT and defines it as compared to regular viewing.
Of all my HT components, I am willing to spend the most on a good sub and then a receiver. After one year in this hobby and having started from Daiichi's myself to my current gears(click), (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=42114.msg494386#msg494386) I have come to conclude that ** most low to mid-end speakers** would do a good job for HT (its only dialogue and explosions, not very detailed), you only need to be a bit pickier with the speakers when it comes to music (lots of details kasi).
But its a different case with subs. Since I mentioned that for me, the subs "carries" the experience, getting a good sub makes the difference in HT, not much on the speakers.
**by this I mean bookshelf and floorstanding speakers, I seldom find good satellite speakers at this range**
just my 2 cents.
**500**
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Bro art and kt.. Ah OK... Eh d ilalabas ko na lng dun sa lalagyan kapag gagamitin.. hehe.. pero parang ngdadalwang icp nko sa Sub, parang ok na sa akin ung bass nya ngaun eh.. I biwired it na eh... hehe.. tnx to bro art!!! Ok na ung bass.. kumakalog na rin nga walls eh.. chaka upuan ko kapag tinataasan ko bass sa receiver ko.. hehe.. Icp icp.. hihi..
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bro lord i know wat u mean by ok na bass ng floorstanders! kaso iba parin talaga pag may sub! yung mga very low LFE...di kaya ng speakers kaya mas ok talaga sa sub kasi yun yung role nya! better if matry mo sa 1 system na with sub....then off mo yung sub then just set to LARGE yung speakers mo....dun mo manotice yung difference nila! ;D
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Bro lord,
Okay na rin kung walang sub, but speaker response is almost never a flat line. Your tower speakers have peaks and dips in response. There are frequencies na malakas sya and may frequencies din na mahina. Especially at the upper and lower limits of the speaker system. Okay lang at the higher ones kasi 20KHz is much more easy to produce for a tweeter than 20 Hz is for a woofer, even for a subwoofer. So at, say, 50 Hz, mahina na ang reproduction ng towers mo. The frequency response rating of Daiichi speakers, by the way, is at +/-4dB. How much more if your system needed to reproduce 40Hz? Iba talaga ang response if you had a sub, since a sub was built for that purpose. A locally made sub would make you feel the difference. Moreover, a more expensive one would have an even better performance. My point? GET A SUB. If not now, maybe soon. But that's just me. ;D
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Bro lord,
Okay na rin kung walang sub, but speaker response is almost never a flat line. Your tower speakers have peaks and dips in response. There are frequencies na malakas sya and may frequencies din na mahina. Especially at the upper and lower limits of the speaker system. Okay lang at the higher ones kasi 20KHz is much more easy to produce for a tweeter than 20 Hz is for a woofer, even for a subwoofer. So at, say, 50 Hz, mahina na ang reproduction ng towers mo. The frequency response rating of Daiichi speakers, by the way, is at +/-4dB. How much more if your system needed to reproduce 40Hz? Iba talaga ang response if you had a sub, since a sub was built for that purpose. A locally made sub would make you feel the difference. Moreover, a more expensive one would have an even better performance. My point? GET A SUB. If not now, maybe soon. But that's just me. ;D
Provided the subwoofer adds db below the -3db point of the towers flat down to at most 30hz. Often not attainable with bandpass designs of entry level brands.
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That's why I don't really suggest getting a sub with a bandpass design. I've always recommended getting front firing ones. And I've always stressed that "THE LOWER A SUB CAN GO, THE MORE EXPENSIVE IT IS", USUALLY. Besides, the Euros towers 8 can only go as low as 50Hz at -4dB, on the premise that we take the word of Daiichi on the specs. Not getting a sub would only lessen the enjoyment of the LFEs, moreso if you get an entry level bandpass sub like the US Audio 512 which has a bottom end frequency limit of 50 Hz also at -4dB. I've tested it to have a response at around 40 Hz pero mahina talaga sya. The DTX 4.12 can go a bit lower at around 30 Hz , mahina din, but a bit more audible than the 512.
Again, at around 50, 60 hz, mahina na ang towers, so your LFE response would suffer even more if you didn't have a sub. Better pa rin if may sub.
Thanks, sir av. ;D
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hmm.... Cge, bili na lng ako ng sub pag nkaipon na... hehe... mga after 4 months pa cguro.. tnx mga pre!!!
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just got the euros8 tower last friday during the megamall sale.
naku, ok na sa kuwarto ko, kahit walang sub muna, kasi kapag naka bass on ung sakura ko, lumilindol na ung upuan! paano pa kaya kapag may sub!
baka batuhin na ako ng kapitbahay ko o kaya makita ko silang may eye-bag araw-araw! hehe
next upgrade: branded receiver!
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bro leomar congrats! how much na kuha mo? sale din ba sila ng nag sale sa mega? yung euros8 ba yung 2 yung woofers?
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next upgrade: branded receiver!
Ayus, bro madaming on sale sa buy and sell thread :)
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sir kt:
yup, 2 woofers, 1 midrange, and 1 tweeter, so 4 lahat! hehe
sir matz:
ayos ba ang onkyo compared sa yamaha (for HT)?
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bro leomar! oks yan ganda nga yan yung naka display sa harap nila dba? how much kuha mo?
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6k sir, sinamantala ko na habang sale pa sila, sabi kasi ni john (ung manager yata dun) magtataas sila after nung sale baka daw aabot ng 9k ung price, kaya kinuha ko habang may pera pa hehe
btw, wat receiver mo sir?
naghahanap-hanap na rin ako ngaun ng branded e hehe
im setting my eyes to either yamaha 550 or onkyo tx-sr502
ano ba mas maganda hehe
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sir matz:
ayos ba ang onkyo compared sa yamaha (for HT)?
Pag you are more into HT, go for the Yamaha. But if you like listening to a lot of music, go for the Onkyo. Thats what I learned from the posts here.
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ok yamaha na kukunin ko! more on dvd kasi ako e hehe
thanks!
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bro leomar! abot ng 9t? naku baka wala ng bumili sa kanila nun! price na ng wharfe yun ha. im using the marantz4500 avr. own preference parin sa choice bro eh. ako din nahirapan before! hehe tama si bro matz na depends sa use mo bro! n consider also to future proof your system para di upgrade agad! hehe mahirap na
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un din sabi ko sa kanila nun e hehe
namention niya rin noon na baka more than 7k anf magiging retail
so ano suggestion niyo? 7.1 receiver na kunin ko? hehe
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bro leomar! thats 1 thing i considered din before getting my avr... kaso yung other brands na 7.1 medyo pricey na eh...
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6.1 avr na lang muna, kasi gastos sa speaker and wala pa 7.1 hehe
actually ok na ang 5.1 sa room ko...
maybe ill really go for 550 or kung kaya 650 siguro hehe
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yup bro its your choice parin naman syempre ;D
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If you're getting the 550, get the 450 instead. It's cheaper and the similarity in weight (450 and 550) likely means they have the same power supply.
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6.1 avr na lang muna, kasi gastos sa speaker and wala pa 7.1 hehe
actually ok na ang 5.1 sa room ko...
maybe ill really go for 550 or kung kaya 650 siguro hehe
If that is the case then why not go for a 5.1 receiver? 5.1 is good enough. Anyway, the 6.1 channel DVDs are not many and additional gastos lang yan sa speakers ;D.
anyway, Do you prefer a brand new one or ok lang sa yo pre-owned?
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oo ayos na nga 5.1 e pero at least future proof na rin, 6.1 na lang ;D
kasi ang entry level naman ng yamaha e 6.1 na kaagad
ayos lang ang used basta inalagaan naman ng maayos...
i prefer yamaha 550 or even 450 ;D
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mga bosing help naman , sino po nakakaalam sa inyo ng website ng dai ichi? or yung tech support nila? baka pwede nyo rin ako tulungan mag design ng box para sa two 8" dai ichi targa subwoofer, thanks po ;D
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bro heres the site: http://www.daiichi.ph
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thanks sir KT ;D
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mga bosing help naman , sino po nakakaalam sa inyo ng website ng dai ichi? or yung tech support nila? baka pwede nyo rin ako tulungan mag design ng box para sa two 8" dai ichi targa subwoofer, thanks po ;D
I think it would be best to surf the web for this. I once found a site that provided me with even the calculations. I still have that in my file. ;)
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its ok sir arthurallanj, just inform the technical staff of dai ichi about my request, thanks a lot
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magkano na ba ang dai-ichi euro8 ngayon sa raon?
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last quotation from moses aaron is Php10k daw
mas mura sa megamall
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last quotation from moses aaron is Php10k daw
mas mura sa megamall
isang set na ba yung 10k? meron din bang subwoofer ang dai-ichi para sa euro8?
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ay im sorry, i was referring to the tower speakers only ;D
prices from raon:
tower: Php 10k (not sale!)
BS: Php 2.6k (sale!)
center : Php 1.7k (sale!)
prices from daiichi megamall:
tower: Php 6k
BS: Php 2.5 k
center : Php 2k
sub: Php 6+k (no stock daw)
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Have any of you guys seen the new Euros 5? Any idea as to how much? How about looks and performance? Thanks. ;D
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sir sabi ni john ng daiichi, around Php 11k daw set nun... mukhang pinaliit ng euros8/6 lang daw hehe
haven't tested it though kasi wala pang display! ;D
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Thanks bro. Set as in a pair of towers, a pair of bookshelfs and a center? No sub? Thanks ulit. ;D
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mukhang kasama na rin pati sub ;D
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That's great kung ganun nga. I'm actually just interested with the Towers. Matext nga kumpare ko. Thanks bro leomar. ;)
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Sir Art if you finally decide to buy this, please post your review. For 11k pati na sub naku po what a great deal :D
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Buhayin ko lang ito.. ;D
I don't know if this should be posted here or what..
But, what speaker wires do you use for the Euros 8? I have a Sakura 387 Amp.
Do you have different gauges for the fronts, center and surrounds?
Is AudioPro a good brand to use? They say that #12 AWG is good?
Nagaalala lang ako kasi 250 x 2 yung fronts ng Sakura amp so baka kailangan ng mas malaking gauge?
Thanks!
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Buhayin ko lang ito.. ;D
I don't know if this should be posted here or what..
But, what speaker wires do you use for the Euros 8? I have a Sakura 387 Amp.
Do you have different gauges for the fronts, center and surrounds?
Is AudioPro a good brand to use? They say that #12 AWG is good?
Nagaalala lang ako kasi 250 x 2 yung fronts ng Sakura amp so baka kailangan ng mas malaking gauge?
Thanks!
The longer the run, the lower (thicker wire) the gauge should be. I use AudioPro #12.
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Buhayin ko lang ito.. ;D
I don't know if this should be posted here or what..
But, what speaker wires do you use for the Euros 8? I have a Sakura 387 Amp.
Do you have different gauges for the fronts, center and surrounds?
Is AudioPro a good brand to use? They say that #12 AWG is good?
Nagaalala lang ako kasi 250 x 2 yung fronts ng Sakura amp so baka kailangan ng mas malaking gauge?
Thanks!
You should be safe with a gauge 14 wire. A 12 would of course be better. ;)
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gamit ko sir ay audio pro #16 for FL,C,FR
mas manipis naman gamit ko for SR,SL
pero mas maganda rin kung #14 or #12
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If there will be anyone who can sample the Euro5 please post your comment/review here. Thanks.
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can anyone post the prices for the dtx series speakers here?
tnx
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i'm thinking of selling my dtx front, center and surrounds and upgrade to wharfedale diamond 9 series....hmmm.
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For someone's benefit:
DTX 9.5T Tower
Impedance: 6 Ohms.
Sensitivity:91dB
Freq. Response: 65-20kHz
Power Handling: 140W Peak
*20mm silk dome tweeter neodymium tweeter with ferrofluid cooled
*12dB/octave Linkwitz riley crossover network
*Double midbass woofer for accurate depth bass reproduction
*Poly coated paper cone
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Sir Arthurallanj,
Thanks sa info. :)
Lulubusin ko na ang tanong. How about box dimensions?
TIA
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bros baka may interested sa inyo im selling my DTX 4.10 sub...pls check http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=44724.0
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can anyone post the prices for the dtx series speakers here?
tnx
DTX 9.5 towers = PhP 3,800
DTX 4.12 subwoofer = Php 7,000
out of stock na raw yung DTX bookshelves
* all prices from Moses Aaron (called last Saturday)
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Sir Arthurallanj,
Thanks sa info. :)
Lulubusin ko na ang tanong. How about box dimensions?
TIA
Sukatin ko mamaya. Post ko bukas. ;)
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DTX 9.5 towers = PhP 3,800
DTX 4.12 subwoofer = Php 7,000
out of stock na raw yung DTX bookshelves
* all prices from Moses Aaron (called last Saturday)
sir yung price ba nung dtx towers per pair na or per piece?
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That's for a pair.
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Gamit ko din yang DTX Slim tower na yan last Dec. 2004. I bought it in raon to be used as my surround sa bedroom set up kasi tamad na ko maghanap ng stands if i will get a bookshelf e.
Panalo sa aesthetics parang Tannoy ang dating and panalo din sa price.
Well for the sound, ok na sya given the price i paid for it. Medyo anemic lang sa bass for my taste pag ginagamit ko sya for audio. Hindi pa nga complete yung break in nung DTX ko up to now eh. Kasi that time sandali lang nagamit as surrounds then pag nag play lang ako ng music minsan ksi kinukumpara ko sya sa ibang floorstanders ko then umalis ulit ako and tinangal na yung connection at nakacover na lang sya. Pero May potential yung speakers na ito. Last September naman ng bumalik ako (OFW lang po ako) yun medyo tinanggal ko kulambo nya at ginamit ko ulit sa audio driven by a circa 80's Sony Power amp and a tube pre-amp. Naaaliw din naman ako sa sound nya.
Yung bad trip ako dun sa US Audio na binili ko last year din 512 mark II yata yung model. I was able to used it only for 6 movies in a span of two weeks. HIndi pa todo yugn sub volume nun kasi break in pa nga lang. One day bigla na lang ayaw tumunog kahit anong connection ang gamitin ko. OK naman yung indicator light nya pero walang sound. bad trip talaga ako. Eh sa province pa ko nakatira, hindi ko agad maibalik sa manila sa service center nila . Up to now yun ganun pa rin yung condition.. binalutan ko na lang..... pag may time na lang dun ko ibabalik.
If you are serious in this hobby...... Buy the best Front and center speakers that you can afford.
Invest on a good subwoofer for that slam and bang.
CIAO
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Been testing my 'new' setup mostly in music pa lang. Had the time to test how it will handle movies... and I came up with this Qs:
- May napapansin akong parang distortion dun sa movie while playing the DVD. Sa tingin ko ay because of the interference of either the speaker or the AVR. How can I eliminate that?
- While playing DVD in AC-3 mode, pag pinapaltan ko volume ng AVR ko.. I hear this popping (or clicking) sound. Is this normal? Wala kasi pag DVD mode ako eh.
My setup: Sakura AVR-387a, Euros 8 towers, <no center speaker>, speakers from Sony mini-compo as rears, DTX 4.12 subwoofer, Kebao DVD player, generic speaker wires, genereic RCA inter-connects
Thanks in advance!!!
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ano bang cheapest na bookshelf speakers ng dai-ichi yung puwede gamitin pang fronts and to be paired with a sakura amp?
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ano bang cheapest na bookshelf speakers ng dai-ichi yung puwede gamitin pang fronts and to be paired with a sakura amp?
Dai-ichis studio acoutics, model Euros 8 bookshelf 3,2T pair.
• 150 Watts
• 88dB@1w/1m
• 6 ohms
• Single 5”
• 20mm Silk Dome Ferro Fluid Tweeter
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Dai-ichis studio acoutics, model Euros 8 bookshelf 3,2T pair.
• 150 Watts
• 88dB@1w/1m
• 6 ohms
• Single 5”
• 20mm Silk Dome Ferro Fluid Tweeter
thanks! btw saan store yung 3.2t/pair sa raon showroom nila? and ok din ba ito for listening to audio cds/mp3's/radio?
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thanks! btw saan store yung 3.2t/pair sa raon showroom nila? and ok din ba ito for listening to audio cds/mp3's/radio?
Sa ground floor lang ng showroom nila sa raon, by the way sila lang ang nag bebenta ng Euros 8 and pag nag inquire ka rin naman sa dai-chi raon dun ka rin nila i-direct dahil hindi nag bebenta directly ang showroom nila. you can negotiate for the price there.
here, I got this center speaker for 2,1T studio acoutic euros 8 (black).
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC00097.jpg)
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Sa ground floor lang ng showroom nila sa raon, by the way sila lang ang nag bebenta ng Euros 8 and pag nag inquire ka rin naman sa dai-chi raon dun ka rin nila i-direct dahil hindi nag bebenta directly ang showroom nila. you can negotiate for the price there.
here, I got this center speaker for 2,1T studio acoutic euros 8 (black).
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nice ganda pala ng itsura! magkano kaya yung towers nila ng euros 8? 8)
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nice ganda pala ng itsura! magkano kaya yung towers nila ng euros 8? 8)
I think if im not mistaken nasa 7-8T ang price nung towers. naka setup price sila dati 18T for the whole euros 8 (2towers,2surrounds,1center and 1 active sub), I just dont know kung existing pa ung price package na ito.
Sa performance naman panalo sa clarity at power, hindi masyado over shrill at may warmth sa mids and maganda naman ang asthetics local nga lang, pero sa lifetime free service warranty panalo na tayo dito...
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any pics ng bookshelf speakers na available pa?
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puwede ba i mount sa ceiling yung euros 8 bookshelf speakers? and may nabibili kayang pang mount?
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puwede ba i mount sa ceiling yung euros 8 bookshelf speakers? and may nabibili kayang pang mount?
I think you have to provide a DIY base shelf wala kasing pivoting holes ang Euros 8...
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puwede ba i mount sa ceiling yung euros 8 bookshelf speakers? and may nabibili kayang pang mount?
I have 3 pairs of Euros 8 bookshelfs mounted on my walls. I found brackets of several designs, most of them requiring screws to be attached to the speaker box costing around 500 to 600 pesos a pair, but I did not wanna put screws on my speaker boxes so I opted for a bracket that pinched the bottom of my speakers, that way, walang damage ang speaker boxes. It cost me 950 pesos a pair here in Bacolod. I'm sure marami nyan dyan sa Manila. I found one at the Listening Room (I think) at Megamall. Best to look for it at Raon. May swivel sya at both the horizontal and vertical axes. ;D
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thanks! bale iniipit lang niya yung speakers hindi naka screw?
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thanks! bale iniipit lang niya yung speakers hindi naka screw?
Yup, Ive seen one of these type of brackets sa true value and ace hardware. forgot the brand though (perfect view yata yun!) and most those brackets doesnt require screwing the box, but instead cleverly holding the box by parallel bars... and the one I saw had several types for each application, for small to large speakers boxes and also for TV and DVD player wall mounting brackets
And oh by the way they also have metal speaker stands ...
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thanks! bale iniipit lang niya yung speakers hindi naka screw?
Yup. Sa ilalim meron syang adjustable na parang iniipint nya yung ilalim ng speaker from the front and back. So no damage sa box. Although it has a screw at back to secure the box to the bracket, I use 5 centavo coins as washers to distribute the pressure and protect the box from damage. I also ground the pointed screw tips and made it a bit rounder. ;D
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Just a piece of info on dai-chi speakers...
Most locally assembled cars here use dai-ichi as their OEM speakers. Local distributors of Car Audio Head Units (Pioneer, Alpine, Kenwood, Fujitsu-10, Clarion) just go to Dai-ichi to have "custom-built" car speakers manufactured. Since its really much cheaper than their own speakers which they have to import from thailand, malaysia or japan.
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Just a piece of info on dai-chi speakers...
Most locally assembled cars here use dai-ichi as their OEM speakers. Local distributors of Car Audio Head Units (Pioneer, Alpine, Kenwood, Fujitsu-10, Clarion) just go to Dai-ichi to have "custom-built" car speakers manufactured. Since its really much cheaper than their own speakers which they have to import from thailand, malaysia or japan.
;D ;D ;D
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Hi guys! Just wondering if you or your friends are selling their US Audio 512L. Budget is below 5k and not more than 3 years old sana.
If you know one...just text me 0917-8050575
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Question lang regarding the Daichi Euros 8:
1) What's the best amp to pair this with? Sa mga meron nito..anong amp ginamit nyo?
2) Are these speakers considered as bright or warm? Or sa receiver/amp lang yun naga-apply?
3) Meron akong nabasa dito regarding the Euros 8 and "Studio Acoustics". Iba pa ba yung Studio Acoustics na Euros 8 sa ordinary na Euros 8?
4) Meron bang news regarding a sale for Euros 8. Pa-share naman.
Thanks a lot sa lahat ng answers nyo. ;D
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Question lang regarding the Daichi Euros 8:
1) What's the best amp to pair this with? Sa mga meron nito..anong amp ginamit nyo?
2) Are these speakers considered as bright or warm? Or sa receiver/amp lang yun naga-apply?
3) Meron akong nabasa dito regarding the Euros 8 and "Studio Acoustics". Iba pa ba yung Studio Acoustics na Euros 8 sa ordinary na Euros 8?
4) Meron bang news regarding a sale for Euros 8. Pa-share naman.
Thanks a lot sa lahat ng answers nyo. ;D
1.) With regards to what amp, it may be highly preferential. I use with it a Yamaha RX-V650.
2.) I'd say sweet. Di naman sya bright kasi e, but it ain't warm, also so, I'd say sweet.
3.) Studio Acoustics is the brand name. The model name is Euros 8. Still manufactured by Daiichi, of course.
4.) I recently heard there is, but try calling Daiichi Megamall or Raon, or dealers. Here's the site: www.daiichi.ph
Happy hunting! ;D
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Is it ok to use Euros8 bookshelves as surrounds? I have Wharfedale 9.1 for front and 9 CS for center. Parang gusto kong i-try yung Euros 8. Match kaya sila??? My avr is Yamaha 650 and usaudio 512 for the sub. Surrounds na lang talaga ang kulang for that true HT experience!!! :)
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ricracer, malapit na mabuo ang HT mo ;D i am sure sina bro art and sir av will be able to answer your concern regarding kung puwede yang balak mo ;) they helped me when i was starting this hobby ;D kaya nga yung speaker ko na Bose inaalikabok na at napalitan ng Euros8 ;D ;D ;D
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1.) With regards to what amp, it may be highly preferential. I use with it a Yamaha RX-V650.
2.) I'd say sweet. Di naman sya bright kasi e, but it ain't warm, also so, I'd say sweet.
3.) Studio Acoustics is the brand name. The model name is Euros 8. Still manufactured by Daiichi, of course.
4.) I recently heard there is, but try calling Daiichi Megamall or Raon, or dealers. Here's the site: www.daiichi.ph
Happy hunting! ;D
Thanks sir! So I guess it being "sweet" is a good thing? ;D I'll try to contact them and see if they have any ongoing sale. Last question lang mga bro...
I have a Sakura 387 and its fronts are 250W x 2. It is safe to use this amp for the Euros 8 right? No moolah yet for a branded receiver eh. Thanks!
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Question lang regarding the Daichi Euros 8:
1) What's the best amp to pair this with? Sa mga meron nito..anong amp ginamit nyo?
Dunno about the best amp, but I'm currently using a Sakura AVR387a. If everything proceeds as planned, I may be able to replace the Sakura with an HK AVR.
2) Are these speakers considered as bright or warm? Or sa receiver/amp lang yun naga-apply?
3) Meron akong nabasa dito regarding the Euros 8 and "Studio Acoustics". Iba pa ba yung Studio Acoustics na Euros 8 sa ordinary na Euros 8?
4) Meron bang news regarding a sale for Euros 8. Pa-share naman.
Thanks a lot sa lahat ng answers nyo. ;D
See sir arthurallanj's answers. ;D
My setup is currently a chopseuy of sorts: Sakura AVR387a, Euros8 towers as fronts, Definitive Technology C/L/R 2300 as center, a pair of speakers from an old Sony FH mini-compo as rears and a DTX 4.12 (subwoofer). It may not be timbre-matched, but my untrained ears can't tell that. ;)
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Thanks sir! So I guess it being "sweet" is a good thing? ;D I'll try to contact them and see if they have any ongoing sale. Last question lang mga bro...
I have a Sakura 387 and its fronts are 250W x 2. It is safe to use this amp for the Euros 8 right? No moolah yet for a branded receiver eh. Thanks!
Yes, you can use the Sakura AV387a with the Euros8 towers. See my post above for details of my setup. ::)
But since the towers are still at the break-in phase, I have only gone up to -10 db. (This was during New Year's Eve)
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Thanks X-Ran! Would love to see a picture of your setup and ArthurAllanJ's as well. It's been a long, long wait for me and I'm really hoping that I can buy even the fronts lang muna this time. I just renovated our apartment you see and I have already taken care of wire management and all that stuff. Kulang na lang talaga are the speakers and wires themselves. Just called up Daiichi Mega and 7K pa rin yung Euros 8.
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Thanks X-Ran! Would love to see a picture of your setup and ArthurAllanJ's as well. It's been a long, long wait for me and I'm really hoping that I can buy even the fronts lang muna this time. I just renovated our apartment you see and I have already taken care of wire management and all that stuff. Kulang na lang talaga are the speakers and wires themselves. Just called up Daiichi Mega and 7K pa rin yung Euros 8.
I can't take decent pics right now... nagloko kasi yung digicam ko.. and sa HT napunta yung pambili ng pamalit. :D
But I'm open to letting you hear my humble setup, I'm in Cainta btw.
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I just visited Daiichi Megamall, I was able to check those Euros8 Towers. Grabe!!! Those speakers really rock and at that price, sulit talaga sya. Bilib na ako sa Gawang Pinoy! :) :) :)
I bought Euros8 bookshelves for my surrounds, naka-sale kasi. Puede na sya....it's really a bang for your buck. Kesa bumili ako ng Imported na surrounds eh pang HT lang naman sa likod.
Ok din syang gamitin for fronts, kaya lang hindi kasing pino ng Wharf Diamond 9.1. Napansin ko din nung idinikit ko sa TV yung Euros8, parang mahina yung pagka-magnetic shielding nya...na distort yung display ng TV ko. Anyway, pang likod ko lang naman, so sulit pa rin.
Pero, I would really recommend those Towers. ;D ;D ;D
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Napansin ko din nung idinikit ko sa TV yung Euros8, parang mahina yung pagka-magnetic shielding nya...na distort yung display ng TV ko.
The only magnetically shielded speaker system that the Euros 8 series has is the center, just like any other Daiichi HT speaker series. So, of course, your tv will be affected since the bookshelf speakers aren't magnetically shielded. ;)
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Ricracer, magkano kuha mo sa bookshelf surrounds? Balak ko kasi fronts lang kukunin ko sa Daichi Megamall kasi malaki at mabigat. Then punta ko Moses Aaron sa Raon para sa center and surrounds. Mas kayang dalhin and mas mura yata pag doon bumili. May discount pa kung mag name-dropping ka. Diba sir ArthurAllanJ? ;)
Magkano nga kaya difference ng price sa Moses Aaron and sa Mega ngayon? Hmmm..
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3,500 ang regular price sa Mega, 4,000 yata sa raon. Pero I got mine at 2,900....last pair na yata yun. Sayang nga kasi mas mababa pa raw yun nung nag-sale sila sa Mega last year.
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Bro ricracer, sent you a pm. Thanks ;)
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Nagpunta rin ako doon last Monday. Merong ngang some items for sale. I saw a DTX tower, US Audio Sub, Some towers na maple, most probably, Euros 5 or 6. Also some DTX bookshelves.
Kaya lang hindi sale yung pinaka-aabangan ko :-\ :-[ The Euros 8! :'(
Ang bigay nila is still 7K at wala na silang stock ng centers and bookshelves. Matagal pa raw dadating.
Saw a new Euros Model. The Studio Acoustic EurosFD. Iba yung cone nya, hindi paper. Kevlar(?) daw sabi nung salesman. Pero mukhang hindi. Mas maliit siya sa Euros 8 pero it has 3 midbass (?) drivers. Mukhang okay din.
Yun lang po ang update. Ciao!
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i use Euros 6 Floorstanders sa tabi ng TV ko.. as in, dikit na ung tv pati ung speakers.. i dont notice naman any discoloration or anything :)
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Bro fweyd,
That's great. I'm only worried about the effect of the vibrations of the speakers on your tv. I think an inch of space, at least, between the speakers and the tv should be considered. Just me, bro. ;D
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Mga bossing i just bought euros 8 towers for my HK 135. iniisip ko lng kung anong ilalagay na center. ok ba ung euros 8 center? kc m planning to buy diamond 9cm para sa center, di ko lng sure kung babagay kasi magkaiba cla ng brand. please advise nman po. salamat!
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To play it safe, get the Euros 8 center. Although, I am using the a pair of Wharfedale WH-2s with a pair of DTX 9.5 BSs as surrounds and they have a very similar timbre. I've done some tests and they sound seamless to me. But that's just me. ;D
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GOOD NEWS!!! Euros 8 center and surrounds now available at raon...
I just got my Euros 8 book shelfs at Php.3,250 only...
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Malaki ba difference ng Euros 6 at Euros 8 bookshelfs? I haven't seen them na magkatabi kasi e. Guys?
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Bro mukhang mas mura pa sa megamall kesa sa raon eh. Natry mo ba tanungin kung magkano sa megamall showroom?
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NEWS NEWS NEWS!!! Euros 8 tower sale sa Megamall got mine for only 7k. hurry limited supply, magmamahal daw sila after nito. it will be 10k+ na sa susunod. pero wala pa rin center and bookshelf sa mega pero sa raon meron. DTX sub also at 7k nalang...
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7k rim kuha ko sa euros 8 towers. Dati pa nila sinasabing magtataas na daw sila pero hanggang ngayon 7k pa rin. Ewan ko lang kung totoo yung sinasabi nila, bka sinasabi lang nila yun para bumili ng bumili yung mga nagtatanong. ewan ko lang ha...
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7k rim kuha ko sa euros 8 towers. Dati pa nila sinasabing magtataas na daw sila pero hanggang ngayon 7k pa rin. Ewan ko lang kung totoo yung sinasabi nila, bka sinasabi lang nila yun para bumili ng bumili yung mga nagtatanong. ewan ko lang ha...
actually a week before today, I audition the 8 towers sa kanila and the price is 9k pag cash. tinanong ko rin if kung cash ko bibilihin sabi sa akin ganun pa rin daw 9k. so I think totoo naman yung sales person kahit sa raon nag tanong ako talgang mataas na. 9,8k pa nga eh. so today is a good opportunity for us hobbyist kung gusto mo talga bumili ng towers, anyways oks na din yung 7k isipin mo price lang ito ng bookshelf na wharfs 9 series...
Sulit naman eh. I hooked it up with my present AVR DSP2000 powered by 502a (serves as power amp) and ang ganda talaga at ang linaw pa isipin mo wala pang kwenta ang AVR ko nito lalo na ciguro kung Yammy, HK or tubes. best buy na ito. wala pang problema sa warranty...actually I asked the sales person kung saan ineexport ang studioacoustic, he told me sa melbourne autralia at france... iba na daw ang badge nito dun saka mahal dahil sa tax... actually meron akong friend na nag pa repair ng cerwin vega niya. and guess what? sa dai-ichi rin siya dinala. dahil OEM daw nila ang speakers ng cerwinvega...
so for me okey na ang Euros 8 hataw na sa performance ang mura pa...
BTW nag pa reserve na ako ng T-amp! ka chokaran ko na yung contact ko dun hehehe!
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anyways oks na din yung 7k isipin mo price lang ito ng bookshelf na wharfs 9 series...
I have a 9.1 and it's true price na ito ng Euros 8 (I can get it much lower pa nga ;)), I think it's time I audition these towers. :)
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at last finally my 2 towers hehehe!
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while playing harry potter and the goblet of fire. all I can say is oohhlala! clarity, intensity Im speechless...
Im happy to have bought these... Im now one of those lucky owners of Euros 8 super towers... parang Definitive technology towers sa asthetics with 7k on the price...
PS. wala pang sub pero hataw na sa lowfreq. pano kay kung naka sub pa ako hehehe!
the towers are played it with a borrowed Yamaha 795a from my cousin. Thanks TOL!
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I have a 9.1 and it's true price na ito ng Euros 8 (I can get it much lower pa nga ;)), I think it's time I audition these towers. :)
Sir audition mo na bilis! hehe. Gusto ko marinig opinion nyo kung kamusta tumunog euros 8 sa taste nyo. Di pa kasi ko gaanong nakakapakinig ng ibang setup eh. Paki post nman pag narinig nyo na sila tumunog at kung ano dating sa inyo
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at last finally my 2 towers hehehe!
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while playing harry potter and the goblet of fire. all I can say is oohhlala! clarity, intensity Im speechless...
Im happy to have bought these... Im now one of those lucky owners of Euros 8 super towers... parang Definitive technology towers sa asthetics with 7k on the price...
PS. wala pang sub pero hataw na sa lowfreq. pano kay kung naka sub pa ako hehehe!
the towers are played it with a borrowed Yamaha 795a from my cousin. Thanks TOL!
Welcome to club! Ganda no? parang mahal tignan eh no? hehehe. Gnun ba bro 9.8K benta nla? sustagen... eh nung binili ko yan a month ago 7k eh. ano yun mababa tapos tataas tapos bababa? labo nila. Anyways, pareho naman nating nakuha ng 7k eh so ayos na yun hehehe
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Welcome to club! Ganda no? parang mahal tignan eh no? hehehe. Gnun ba bro 9.8K benta nla? sustagen... eh nung binili ko yan a month ago 7k eh. ano yun mababa tapos tataas tapos bababa? labo nila. Anyways, pareho naman nating nakuha ng 7k eh so ayos na yun hehehe
tol actually sa raon talgang nasa 10k na less 5% kahit sa knight audio. nasa 9,8k kung cash kasi tinangka ko bumili sa kanila pero wala stock so pumunta ako sa showroom sa taas. sabi sa akin mahal daw sa baba talga kaya tumawag sa mega. eh nagka taon naka sale. kaya binigay sa akin ng 7k. pero last week lang nung nag inquire ako sa mega nasa 8,9k pa pag cash daw discounted to 8,5k...
pero whatever at least nakuha natin ng 7k. and this is a good thing at least meron chance ang mga katulad natin hindi masyado rich na makabili ng ganitong high performance speakers diba? yan ang contri ng Dai-ichi sa PDVD hobbyist. singaling ng mga branded speakers pero hindi sing mahal. diba wais? hehehe.... hindi na masama ang 7k for a good performer towers, in fact best buy ito...
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tol actually sa raon talgang nasa 10k na less 5% kahit sa knight audio. nasa 9,8k kung cash kasi tinangka ko bumili sa kanila pero wala stock so pumunta ako sa showroom sa taas. sabi sa akin mahal daw sa baba talga kaya tumawag sa mega. eh nagka taon naka sale. kaya binigay sa akin ng 7k. pero last week lang nung nag inquire ako sa mega nasa 8,9k pa pag cash daw discounted to 8,5k...
pero whatever at least nakuha natin ng 7k. and this is a good thing at least meron chance ang mga katulad natin hindi masyado rich na makabili ng ganitong high performance speakers diba? yan ang contri ng Dai-ichi sa PDVD hobbyist. singaling ng mga branded speakers pero hindi sing mahal. diba wais? hehehe.... hindi na masama ang 7k for a good performer towers, in fact best buy ito...
Hanep ah bilis ng reply ah... magchat na lang kaya tayo? hehehe. palagi kang online ah!
O para ndi O.T. , sabi ng taga raon mas mura daw talaga sa mega pag euros. Pero pag mga sub mas mura daw sa raon. Ewan ko ba sa kanila, pareho lang namang daiichi yun eh.
Accident lang talaga pag bili ko ng euros, kasi when i went there, bibili sana ko ng DQ12 na sub sa Listening Room kasi may floorstanders na ko kaso bulok. Eh medyo hindi ako happy sa service dun at tunog ng DQ12, akyat ako ngayon sa Daiichi showroom para ma audition yung DTX at USaudio. Eh napakinggan ko euros... patay na. Ayun ang nauwi ko. Hehe. pero no regrets! Hayup!
BTW maitanong ko lang, yung cables mo binili mo sa ACE ano? hula lang...
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Congrats Hanns1976! Welcome to the Euros Club! ;D
Truly bang for the buck ang Euros 8 towers. At least meron ka ng center speaker. Bought my Euros 8 towers and Bookshelves for 10K total sa Mega last Feb. 12. Totoo nga ang sabi nila, the sound gets better and better kapag nabe-break-in. Kulang ko na lang is a Center and a Sub. Di pa kasi ako persuaded na bumili ng sub dahil satisfied pa naman ako sa lows ng towers na ito. Pero come to think of it, what more kung may sub diba? Whew! ;D Totoo mas mura nga sa Mega kaysa sa Raon. Went scouting there bago ako bumili eh. Mahal sa kanila yung towers. So I opted to buy sa Mega plus mas malapit and madaling isakay sa car kapag doon.
Receiver ko is only a Sakura 387 and okay na for me pero I'm sure mas okay kung HK or Yammy receiver.
Bought some AudioPro Interconnects, and Gauge 14 wires, okay na okay na. No complaints. Enjoy!
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Sir audition mo na bilis! hehe. Gusto ko marinig opinion nyo kung kamusta tumunog euros 8 sa taste nyo. Di pa kasi ko gaanong nakakapakinig ng ibang setup eh. Paki post nman pag narinig nyo na sila tumunog at kung ano dating sa inyo
I will, hopefully hindi ako ma-disappoint ulit. I have been using Dai-Ichi speakers for my speaker diy itch ever since I was in grade school.
Last year I was scouting for a bookshelf (busy to diy), fortunately this was the season when we were conducting sessions sa bundok and were shooting out different bookshelfs. I was just looking for something that doesn't lie, as natural as possible since I'll be using it to test my amp projects and of course reacheable by my wallet. So then I went and auditioned at raon and mega but unfortunately my ears didn't agree so there goes the story.
Sana floorstanders naman, ganda sa pics ni hanns, congrats.
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Congrats Hanns1976! Welcome to the Euros Club! ;D
Truly bang for the buck ang Euros 8 towers. At least meron ka ng center speaker. Bought my Euros 8 towers and Bookshelves for 10K total sa Mega last Feb. 12. Totoo nga ang sabi nila, the sound gets better and better kapag nabe-break-in. Kulang ko na lang is a Center and a Sub. Di pa kasi ako persuaded na bumili ng sub dahil satisfied pa naman ako sa lows ng towers na ito. Pero come to think of it, what more kung may sub diba? Whew! ;D Totoo mas mura nga sa Mega kaysa sa Raon. Went scouting there bago ako bumili eh. Mahal sa kanila yung towers. So I opted to buy sa Mega plus mas malapit and madaling isakay sa car kapag doon.
Receiver ko is only a Sakura 387 and okay na for me pero I'm sure mas okay kung HK or Yammy receiver.
Bought some AudioPro Interconnects, and Gauge 14 wires, okay na okay na. No complaints. Enjoy!
Onga bro. Ok na yung bass ng euros... lalo na kung may sub!! Bili ka na center!!!
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I will, hopefully hindi ako ma-disappoint ulit. I have been using Dai-Ichi speakers for my speaker diy itch ever since I was in grade school.
Last year I was scouting for a bookshelf (busy to diy), fortunately this was the season when we were conducting sessions sa bundok and were shooting out different bookshelfs. I was just looking for something that doesn't lie, as natural as possible since I'll be using it to test my amp projects and of course reacheable by my wallet. So then I went and auditioned at raon and mega but unfortunately my ears didn't agree so there goes the story.
Sana floorstanders naman, ganda sa pics ni hanns, congrats.
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Ganun ba bro? Baka naman hindi lang maganda listening environment dun or hindi match yung ginagamit na receiver? Well, kahit ano pa opinion nyo, sana po paki post. I'd like to know po sana how u wud rate and describe it pag na audition nyo na. Although subjectiv naman yan, your opinion matters to me. Sir ha paki post ha? Salamat!
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very contented na ako sa Euros 8, isipin mo 7k for this big super tower. yung iba nga piuny na ang mahal pa tapos kalaon laonan ibebenta din. sayang lang!...
Now I know why bihira may nag bebenta ng 2nd Euros 8 towers. kasi panalo na sa performance panalo pa sa budget. kasi yung ibang branded speakers cost really way too very high. eh hindi ko naman kailangan yung ganun ka porma or mega high tech speakers na cost above the ceiling na ang presyo.
Sa Euros oks na may warranty pa. hindi naman ciguro i-export ang spkrs na to kung hindi kaya ipagyabang diba? panalo pa sa service ang dai-ichi... well contentment really is a big thing pag dating sa HT... and for me matatagalan pa ciguro ako bumili ng bago fronts. basta for now me and my towers will be happly married for years to come hehehe!....
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ay ay Bongerdude please don't get me wrong ha, you're right it's subjective, it's just probably me. there are so many variables so my experience cannot be "accurately" gauged. besides bookshelfs yun na audition ko using their Class A ss amp.
I believe that all of us here are in agreement that what sounds good to our own ears is what we buy, even if it costs more or less it doesn't matter as long as we liked what we hear therefore we are happy.
para sa akin kasi yun pera pwede ipunin muna pag kulang pa ang pambili, pero yun pagsisisi mahirap gawan ng paraan yan. ;D ;D ;D
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here are some of the company that dai-ichi is doin some OEM speakers...
Armstrong World Industries, Inc. KH Manufacturing, Klipsch, Mitek Corp, Stamina Int'l, BG Corporation, KEF, Celestion, Macrom, Phoenix Gold, Radio Shack, Kenwood, TDJ, Coustic, MTX, Cerwin Vega, Magnadyne, Peavey, and Monster Cable and others.
dati extremst ako. I always want the best or every thing. pero one thing I learned from this hobby. hindi lahat ng gusto ko makukuha ko. dapat matuto maging kuntento kung hanggang saan lang ang kaya ko. before I always lay some budget way beyond my target, just to get what I wanted. pero mahirap pala yun. kasi walang kakuntentohan. pag meron laging bagong technology gusto laging top-of-the-line pero mahirap pala. matututo ka maging greedy. now Ive learned my lesson...
Time is short, yung years na pagiipon ko, kaya pala i-fulfilled by a good performer speakers with the right budget, hindi pala kailangan mag hintay at hindi kailangan maging on-top lagi... mahirap abutin ang isang ideal or dream audio gears. Long term goal yun. bago maging tangeable yun sankatutak na hirap ang dapat gawin at kailangan with the right resources pa, baka matanda na ko bago ko ma enjoy yun hehehe!... joking aside basta enjoy lang sa present na kaya mo. wth the right knowledge you can achieve your goal...
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Hey guys? ever wonder why bihira ang nagbebenta ng Euros 8 towers dito? samantalang yung ibang branded speakers dito 1 to 2 years old palang binebenta na? seen one pa nga one month old palang na kevlar bookshelf binebenta na kaagad and take note the price pa nitong bookshelf na ito is mas mahal pa sa Euros 8 towers. yung iba nga tower speakers na kevlar naman hindi pa na bbreak in nang husto binebenta na kaagad. bakit kaya? ???
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ay ay Bongerdude please don't get me wrong ha, you're right it's subjective, it's just probably me. there are so many variables so my experience cannot be "accurately" gauged. besides bookshelfs yun na audition ko using their Class A ss amp.
I believe that all of us here are in agreement that what sounds good to our own ears is what we buy, even if it costs more or less it doesn't matter as long as we liked what we hear therefore we are happy.
para sa akin kasi yun pera pwede ipunin muna pag kulang pa ang pambili, pero yun pagsisisi mahirap gawan ng paraan yan. ;D ;D ;D
Oo naman i know that. Subjective talaga. Pero kasi wala pa kong experience sa ibang sets of speakers. Gusto ko lang talaga malaman kung ano masasabi nyo kasi marami na kayong napakinggang speakers. Of course I am very much happy wid the euros 8. At kung sa tingin nyo panget, gusto ko lang malaman para masabi ko "ahh ganun pala sa tingin nila". Pero that won't change my perception on how good it sounds. Gusto ko lang talaga malaman. Kaya mag audition na at ipost and comments! hehehe
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Sir JojoD818, I'm also anxiously waiting for your opinion. Bilib din ako sa Dai-ichi, pero katulad ni sir BongerDude, interesado lang akong makarinig ng mga kontrang opinyon, para madagdagan ang kaalaman.
Naniniwala kasi ako na ang taong sarado ang isip, hindi na matuturuan ng bago. Ika nga ng matatanda, "Ang mapagtanong, daig ang marunong."
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can anyone comment on the mids of the euro 8 towers? bass itself is subjective as i like my bass tight, yung ramdam and hindi "boomy". why not try to listen to speakers that are expensive so that you can have an idea on how they sound ? at least may point of comparison ka, you can always say that speaker a is clear sounding and awesome in bass but if you have no other speaker to compare to, its not really convincing.
I would suggest if you encounter accomodating people to listen to hi-end audio set-ups, that way you can have an idea of what you may be missing. if you dont find much difference then there is no need to upgrade.
more expensive does not necessarily mean its much better, the difference between a 7k tower speaker with a 30k tower speaker on the same equipment may not be great as well..
Case in point, i've been using 5 foot custom made speaker towers for my audio and i have listened to a lot of speakers, yet the speakers that sound much better cost 100k up, and the difference is not that great, for me to merit a change. I have heard a pair of hyperion speakers set-up at architectural audio that have mids that sound much clearer than my speakers that made me realize whats missing but cost 200k.
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Hey guys? ever wonder why bihira ang nagbebenta ng Euros 8 towers dito? samantalang yung ibang branded speakers dito 1 to 2 years old palang binebenta na? seen one pa nga one month old palang na kevlar bookshelf binebenta na kaagad and take note the price pa nitong bookshelf na ito is mas mahal pa sa Euros 8 towers. yung iba nga tower speakers na kevlar naman hindi pa na bbreak in nang husto binebenta na kaagad. bakit kaya? ???
Baka kasi wala masyado ang meron nito kaya bihira yung nagbebenta? ;D bro yan din yata yung comment mo before doon sa pamatay mong karaoke set-up but you immediately disposed of ???
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Baka kasi wala masyado ang meron nito kaya bihira yung nagbebenta? ;D
nadale mo sir.. ;D yung mga gawa sa kevlar madaling mabenta? bakit kaya? :)
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Oo naman i know that. Subjective talaga. Pero kasi wala pa kong experience sa ibang sets of speakers. Gusto ko lang talaga malaman kung ano masasabi nyo kasi marami na kayong napakinggang speakers. Of course I am very much happy wid the euros 8. At kung sa tingin nyo panget, gusto ko lang malaman para masabi ko "ahh ganun pala sa tingin nila". Pero that won't change my perception on how good it sounds. Gusto ko lang talaga malaman. Kaya mag audition na at ipost and comments! hehehe
Thank you for understanding my reasons, and to restate it - I have nothing against Dai-Ichi, in fact interesado pa din ako. ;D
Sir JojoD818, I'm also anxiously waiting for your opinion. Bilib din ako sa Dai-ichi, pero katulad ni sir BongerDude, interesado lang akong makarinig ng mga kontrang opinyon, para madagdagan ang kaalaman.
Naniniwala kasi ako na ang taong sarado ang isip, hindi na matuturuan ng bago. Ika nga ng matatanda, "Ang mapagtanong, daig ang marunong."
Yan ang gusto ko sa tao - ipagpatuloy mo lang yan attitude mo sir at I'm sure malayo ang mararating mo when it comes to the enjoyment of your gears. Bilib din ako sa Dai-Ichi, ang tagal din namin nagsama eh. :)
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Why I did not choose the bookshelfs from Dai-Ichi is due to the criteria that most of us have learned to "detect" and would like to hear in a set of speakers. I was looking for imaging, depth and simply natural sounding. Natural in the sense na kahit pa bookshelf siya ay may malalim na bass, malinis na highs and of course up front vocals. Before kasi I use a Dai-Ichi bookshelf and I have to use a sub to get the bass extentions I require but now puro alikabok na ang sub kasi hindi na nagagamit. Even the sub is a Dai-Ichi btw. ;)
I can't remember na the exact models of bookshelfs I tried, hindi naman yun brand and model ang hinahanap ko kungdi yun sound so hindi important sa akin yun brand. But of all the ones I tried, yun Wharfs and yun MS ang pasok sa criteria ko including my budget. It was unfortunate that the Dai-Ichi bookshelfs have more sensitive and more powerful highs with respect to it's mids and lows, up to a point that it sounded sibilant and if I remember it right it used a soft dome tweets pa. Sayang, ang laki pa sana ng sukli ko.
But now that I am interested in floorstanders (again), baka naman well balanced na ang Euros, so I would love to test them and if possible with known amps. I hope that the overall tonal character of their floorstanders fits the requirements of my ears. ;D
And sa naghahanap ng for sale na Dai-Ichi... marami na din ako nabentang gamit ko na Dai-Ichi before - offline sale nga lang kaya hindi niyo na nakita. ;D Pati yun HT setup nila dati bumili ako pero binenta ko na since hindi ko na nagagamit.
Keeping my fingers crossed....
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Baka kasi wala masyado ang meron nito kaya bihira yung nagbebenta? ;D bro yan din yata yung comment mo before doon sa pamatay mong karaoke set-up but you immediately disposed of ???
Ahem I still have my karaoke set up. still have my DSP 2000 and my mic mixer with shure SM58 microphone. speakers lang po ang nag bago. not to offend you sir but before making any speculations better ask the owner first if still exist... sorry if I offended you po..
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Sir JojoD818, I'm also anxiously waiting for your opinion. Bilib din ako sa Dai-ichi, pero katulad ni sir BongerDude, interesado lang akong makarinig ng mga kontrang opinyon, para madagdagan ang kaalaman.
Naniniwala kasi ako na ang taong sarado ang isip, hindi na matuturuan ng bago. Ika nga ng matatanda, "Ang mapagtanong, daig ang marunong."
Tumpak Wasto Tama bro barrister! Hintay na lang natin c sir jojo baka wala pang time na ma audition yung euros. For sure ipopost nya comments nya d2 .. diba sir jojo? ;)
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ahem iba po ang close minded sa contented...
I mean kung may pera to buy those gigantic super hi tech what so ever speakers that cost way grand high superrific performance and specs. why not diba? kung me limpak limpak na pera ka at budget allows. malayo nga ang mararating ng pangrap, pero malayo rin mararating ng pera mo. pero in reality sa "totoo lang" hanggang panggarap ka na lang ba? kelan mo pa ma-achieve yung ganun gears? well ciguro kung pag lalaanan mo talga ng time at pera. pero for me as of now. I like to enjoy life better. but im not saying im closing my doors to newer horizons pag dating sa audio gears. pero its better for me na tanggapin ang what to expect and what is not.
in realty Ive heard hi-end speakers like definitive tech, martin logan, sonus faber, B&W, MK some are even exotic names like niagara, witt, puppy etc etc and so on hi-end speakers here and abroad yung iba pa nga hindi pa available locally. some are even paired with conrad johnson tubes, mcintosh, etc. etc...
so to compared these hi-end audio gears with Dai-ichi? all I can say is "competitive" why? as for now I dont need those 100k audio gears just to entertain what to achive.
Hanggang dun lang muna ako sa makakaya ko na ma "cocontent" ako. see what I mean?(A/V contentment) but dont get me wrong. of course most of us want those really "go for a mile" speakers and audio gears. but now with budget constraints, diba dapat some how meron tayong outlet. para naman meron tayong sense of achivement sa present hobby natin (kung baga charge to expirience).
And of course asking and taking "guru's" comments would be a great help. but I dont intimidate those newbie hobbyist... why? who knows? diba malay mo hindi nga siya "techie" pero legend na pala siya sa exprience pag dating sa Audio gears. decada na pala ang bibilangin...
I dont intend to offend anyone here. pero for God sake lets have some respect naman at lalo na sa mga kapwa Pdvd member natin. sana iwasan na natin ang pangiintimidate na "pataasan ng IH*".
PS: I support my fellow Pinoy products and I think this is one contribution I can make. buying competent dai-ichi products...
Medyo OT na so back to dai-ichi products.... hehehe!
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nadale mo sir.. ;D yung mga gawa sa kevlar madaling mabenta? bakit kaya? :)
Sir comment lang ako sa sinabi mo ah? please dont be offended... ;)
kaya ba sila bumili ng kevlar speakers para ibenta ulit? diba bago sila bumili ng speakers eh cigurado namn nag research muna sila d2? again. the question is, kaya ba nila binili to kevlar speakers para ibenta ulit dahil meron bago at mas mataas na model ng kevlars or other brands... tapos what happen next pag na bili na naman nila ito, a few months time benta ulit dahil meron na naman bago and so on and so... san ang logic dun or the edge of reason? walang katapusan yun...
how about dun sa naka bili ng competent dai-ichi speakers (like Euros 8). diba sabi nung iba, kaya konti lang ang nag bebenta n2 or bihira kase baka konti lang ang bumi-bili nito (well sorry for them) or....
baka naman bumili na sila pero nanghihinayang ibenta ulit, dahil mura na nga ang price sa brand new, maganda pa ang perforance. so kung ibebenta pa na nila ito, pretty sure mas mura pa sa murang bnew price ng dai-ichi kaya they rather keep it. dahil sayang naman...
so saan ang mas cost effective? and at the same time worth keeping audio gears...
OT na to pero still boils down to one thing dai-ichi. alam mo minsan hindi ma-intidihan ang tao tulad ng examples na to:
yung BOSE bashers nagagalit dahil mahal ang BOSE ang pangit naman ng performance at wala pang tech specs indicated ang products nila...
tapos... ::)
eto naman ang Dai-ichi na pagka mura mura at swerte tayo dahil dito ginawa sa sariling bansa supportado pa natin ang pinoy products. indicated lahat ng tech specs at napaka transparent pag dating sa performance naman maasahan dahil sa warranty. competitive pa siya sa hi-end audio. pero eto discriminated naman.
so....ANO BA TALGA KUYA!!! ang gusto nyo???? ??? ::)
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Ahem I still have my karaoke set up. still have my DSP 2000 and my mic mixer with shure SM58 microphone. speakers lang po ang nag bago. not to offend you sir but before making any speculations better ask the owner first if still exist... sorry if I offended you po..
Sorry bro if you mistook my post as offensive and assuming,i did not meant it that way,sorry again :-[ To be honest i just did not want the way you asked regarding the KEVLAR brand since im sure some of our fellow members bought it with confidence. Hope you accept my apologies 8) And another thing hanns1976, I have nothing against DAI-ICHI products since i have been one of their very satisfied customer at one time. ;D
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Sorry bro if you mistook my post as offensive and assuming,i did not meant it that way,sorry again :-[ To be honest i just did not want the way you asked regarding the KEVLAR brand since im sure some of our fellow members bought it with confidence. Hope you accept my apologies 8)
sorry din brod, medyo nagtataka lang ako ang dami lang talga nag bebenta ng kevlars like wharfs, B&W etc. at hindi lang kev's ha iba pang branded na audio gears din... pero im not against it ciguro hindi lang na meet ang demands nila...
anyways. sa dai-ichi in defense lang naman yung sa products natin. kasi like from my comparison.
BOSE being hated (with reason)
Dai-ichi descriminated naman. eh ang mura naman nito, so ciguro yung dati nilang product hindi pa ganun ka pulido. pero Now sa tingin ko they need to have a chance to grow and be accepted sa audiophile world...
again sorry din. I hope I did not offend you...
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ciguro yung dati nilang product hindi pa ganun ka pulido. pero Now sa tingin ko they need to have a chance to grow and be accepted sa audiophile world...
Sa dami ng sinabi mo in defense of Dai-Ichi sa wakas tumama din, yan statement mo na yan ang nasa isip ko ngayon. ;) Possible kasi na yun mga na audition ko ay hindi pa kasing tindi ng Euros models as you are saying. Kaya nga excited ako na mag audition kasi I can get it na mas mura pa sa 7K.
If it is truly as good as a lot of you guys are saying then ako pa magiging walking billboard ng Euros for sure. ;D
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Tumpak Wasto Tama bro barrister! Hintay na lang natin c sir jojo baka wala pang time na ma audition yung euros. For sure ipopost nya comments nya d2 .. diba sir jojo? ;)
Nag text na ako kay Gem from Dai-Ichi and I have requested her to arrange a private audition of their floorstanders. I hope matuloy kami this week so I can give my honest comments.
Best Regards
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Question lang.
Ano receiver ang ginagamit nyo when auditioning the Dai-ichi speakers?
Hindi ko pa kasi napupuntahan ang showroom nila sa mega so ask ko na rin kung ano naka-setup nilang receiver?
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sorry din brod, medyo nagtataka lang ako ang dami lang talga nag bebenta ng kevlars like wharfs, B&W etc. at hindi lang kev's ha iba pang branded na audio gears din... pero im not against it ciguro hindi lang na meet ang demands nila...
Sa tingin ko, this is a natural phenomenon, na kagaya din ng preference natin sa ulam ;D D best man sa yo ang lasa ng litson pero one time maghahangad ka din ng pritong tilapia o di kaya inihaw na tuyo na habang nilalantakan mo, akala mo yun na ang pinakamasarap. ;D kung mura lang siguro ang mga speakers na kagay ng mga ulam ulam lang, malamang every other day din ang palit.
Dahil sa mga usual changes of preference as dictated by the changes of mood for a given period, madalas nga talaga ang bentahan ng mga speakers. Pero sa tingin ko, yung madalas na gumagawa nito ay yung may mahahaba ang mga pise ika 'nga. Sila kasi kahit talo ng ilang libo, basta mabenta at makuha nila yung panibagong target ay OK na sa kanila. In other words, mas mababa talaga yung 'contentment threshold' ng mga me datung. ;) but speaking of happiness parehas lang siguro ang nararamdaman ng bawat isa. ;)
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I agree with you. sir jojo and sir jerix... isa lang talga ang point dito and hirap lang talga ng hobby na to, parang photography kase "ANG GASTOS" hehehe! (pero worth it naman) investment din...
sir newbie the one that their using is a Yamaha RX-V800 yata yung nasa megamall...while at the same time Yamaha yung nasa raon (just dont know the model) per powered by a power amp...
sir jojo pag may sched na sa audition ng Euros sa dai-ichi. paki sabi naman. baka kasi maka sama ako I want to hear your comment also sir very important sa amin kasi ito. as owners I need to know the performance level at limitations nito and I think you the proper competent authority pag dating dito...
para si sir Jun Reyes na expert pag dating sa audio gears accessories metal fabrication...
thanks ulit mga sir...
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Question lang.
Ano receiver ang ginagamit nyo when auditioning the Dai-ichi speakers?
Hindi ko pa kasi napupuntahan ang showroom nila sa mega so ask ko na rin kung ano naka-setup nilang receiver?
As far as I can remember, the last time I was there, they're still using a Yamaha RX-V640. ;D
In aid of sir Hanns, I think what he's trying to say is at the price level Daiichis are, they're the best, at least to his ears. And I'd say the same, too. Daiichis are the best bang for the buck. I've heard other, more expensive speakers and I can clearly discern where my speakers are lacking, but the price difference is just not worth it for me. I also wouldn't say that older Daiichi speakers aren't good. I still have a pair of CT-503 Classique Towers from Daiichi and they're simply great. I often can't believe the depth and clarity especially for audio applications of this pair at their size. I've also heard a pair of CT513s. My friend has the CT-613s, and the performance is just unbelievable at a 4K a pair price. I recently acquired a pair of CT-813s for such a low price, it couldn't be beat. I could say the Classique tower series of Daiichi was one of the best Daiichi ever made, even better than some of their newer models. Notice the past tense of my statement, they've stopped producing it already. And the lifetime warranty is a plus, too. Also including the thought of buying Filipino. ;)
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Question lang.
Ano receiver ang ginagamit nyo when auditioning the Dai-ichi speakers?
Hindi ko pa kasi napupuntahan ang showroom nila sa mega so ask ko na rin kung ano naka-setup nilang receiver?
sir, nung last time na nagpa-audition ako dun, yamaha 450 ang gamit nila...
i'm also a proud owner of dai-ichi euros8 set (except for the sub)...
paired it with yamaha 450, until now im still very very contented with my set-up!
to answer sir hanns inquiry on "bakit wala nagbebenta ng 2nd hand euros8 tower?"
--- sa tingin ko dahil relatively new pa lang po itong euros8 brand, not to mention this really is bang for the buck speaker!
nabili ko ung towers ko nung november @ PhP 6k! hehe
mas mura pa kuha ko sa inyo sir hanns! ;D
ung BS at center @2k each ko lang nakuha...
well, cguro dahil newbie pa lang ako sa HT at amateur ears pa lang ako, contended na ako sa dai-ichi sa ngaun...
kapag nakarinig cguro ako ng mas magandang set-up at nag-mature na ako sa hobby na ito, saka ko masasabi na may makakatalo sa performance ng dai-ichi pero i doubt kung may makakatalo sa price:performance ratio nito...
even if i grow more mature with this hobby, i'll still keep my euros8 set-up, ganda e! hehe
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Jerix,
I like the simile you used, mas madaling maintindihan talaga basta pagkain eh no? ;D ;D ;D
Hanns,
I am no expert, I'm just a guy who is also interested in floorstanders like you. Besides my comments would probably be just for me since we all have our different listening preferrences. I will just use what I learned and try to hear what I have already heard from other floorstanders.
BTW, I would really like it to be a private session - sorry. I want it set up for 2-channel audio so I can bring my cds which I am familiar with.
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I'm a happy owner of the Euros 8 floorstanders. I bought it at early last year at raon for I think P5,400 lang (that time 50% off dahil over stocked ata). I used it to replace my bose accoustimass 3 as fronts of my HT set-up. Let me just say that the Euros 8 trashed the bose completely. I think the reason why these speakers are rarely sold is that they are mainly used for HT, not for audio. About two weeks ago I purchased a NAD integrated amp as I plan to have an audio set-up at my office (once I have my own room). Used the Euros 8 speakers temporarily with the nad amp to test it. Compared with my yammy 440 mas naging buo yung tunog, tighter bass at mas naging wide yung soundstage. However, except for the audiophile and jazz cd's mas naging matinis yung tunog (simblance). Medyo sumasakit ulo ko sa rock and pop cd's. Will I part with my euros 8? If I only have an HT set-up, DEFINITELY NOT! THIS IS A KEEPER. For audio lang at the price I paid for (P5.4K), may mga matitinda syang kalaban especially the wharfs (P5.5 k up). Binalik ko nga pala yung bose as my fronts. Buti nalang bigay lang sa akin ng utol ko to dahil kung binili ko to feeling ko siguro nanakawan ako dahil sa katangahan ko. He-he.
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Ano nga ba talaga? RX-V800? RX-V450? or RX-V640? Mapuntahan nga this April. Bukas kaya sila on April 13 (Maundy Thursday)? Kita-kits kaya tayo mga guys dun? Sana walang bago, wala kasi akong pambili e. Hehe ;D
Oh, by the way, I got my Euros 8 Towers for 5K+++ lang noon. ;D Mamayang hapon makukumpara ko na ang difference nila with a pair of Yamaha NS-777, and maybe also compare the Euros 8 bookshelfs with the NS-333 and the Euros 8 center with the NS-C444. I think dito ginaya ang Euros ng Daiichi. Andami kasing Yamaha speaker systems na kamukha ng Daiichis e. A friend recenly got the entire Elliptical Form series kasi e, paired with a Yamaha RX-V657, including a Yamaha sub. ;D
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Guys,
May ibang finish ba sila ng Euros 8? Or puro black lang available?
Thanks
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Black lang po sir.
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thanks Chito.
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Ano nga ba talaga? RX-V800? RX-V450? or RX-V640? Mapuntahan nga this April. Bukas kaya sila on April 13 (Maundy Thursday)? Kita-kits kaya tayo mga guys dun? Sana walang bago, wala kasi akong pambili e. Hehe ;D
Bukas kaya sila maundy thurs? Yun lang din kasi tym ko para lumabas. Baka buy na din ako bookshelves tsaka center. Sir arthur kita kits? nyehehe ;)
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Nag text na ako kay Gem from Dai-Ichi and I have requested her to arrange a private audition of their floorstanders. I hope matuloy kami this week so I can give my honest comments.
Best Regards
Beri gud! Cge sir. Positiv o Negativ paki post ha. Salamat bossing
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oh kita kits sa dai-ichi?parang mini EB hehehe! hindi kaya magulat si sir John dun? sana available na yung T-amp. by the way wala pang center and bukshelfs, wala pa rin silang knowlede kung kelan sila magkakaroon. pero pwede naman daw by order.
sayang nga hindi ako naka bili ng center at bukshelf sa kanila, kasi mura sana sa dai-ichi mega. sa raon over price eh. pero naka kuha na ako. sayang lang, kakamadali kasi.
anyways. kaya daw limited ang Euros 8 set-up kasi, over production ang Euros 6 pinapaubos pa daw...
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sorry din brod, medyo nagtataka lang ako ang dami lang talga nag bebenta ng kevlars like wharfs, B&W etc. at hindi lang kev's ha iba pang branded na audio gears din... pero im not against it ciguro hindi lang na meet ang demands nila...
anyways. sa dai-ichi in defense lang naman yung sa products natin. kasi like from my comparison.
BOSE being hated (with reason)
Dai-ichi descriminated naman. eh ang mura naman nito, so ciguro yung dati nilang product hindi pa ganun ka pulido. pero Now sa tingin ko they need to have a chance to grow and be accepted sa audiophile world...
again sorry din. I hope I did not offend you...
No problem with me bro ;D
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Sir comment lang ako sa sinabi mo ah? please dont be offended... ;)
kaya ba sila bumili ng kevlar speakers para ibenta ulit? diba bago sila bumili ng speakers eh cigurado namn nag research muna sila d2? again. the question is, kaya ba nila binili to kevlar speakers para ibenta ulit dahil meron bago at mas mataas na model ng kevlars or other brands... tapos what happen next pag na bili na naman nila ito, a few months time benta ulit dahil meron na naman bago and so on and so... san ang logic dun or the edge of reason? walang katapusan yun...
how about dun sa naka bili ng competent dai-ichi speakers (like Euros 8). diba sabi nung iba, kaya konti lang ang nag bebenta n2 or bihira kase baka konti lang ang bumi-bili nito (well sorry for them) or....
baka naman bumili na sila pero nanghihinayang ibenta ulit, dahil mura na nga ang price sa brand new, maganda pa ang perforance. so kung ibebenta pa na nila ito, pretty sure mas mura pa sa murang bnew price ng dai-ichi kaya they rather keep it. dahil sayang naman...
so saan ang mas cost effective? and at the same time worth keeping audio gears...
OT na to pero still boils down to one thing dai-ichi. alam mo minsan hindi ma-intidihan ang tao tulad ng examples na to:
yung BOSE bashers nagagalit dahil mahal ang BOSE ang pangit naman ng performance at wala pang tech specs indicated ang products nila...
tapos... ::)
eto naman ang Dai-ichi na pagka mura mura at swerte tayo dahil dito ginawa sa sariling bansa supportado pa natin ang pinoy products. indicated lahat ng tech specs at napaka transparent pag dating sa performance naman maasahan dahil sa warranty. competitive pa siya sa hi-end audio. pero eto discriminated naman.
so....ANO BA TALGA KUYA!!! ang gusto nyo???? ??? ::)
sir not offended naman.. wala naman akong ganyang gears e.. pero wag mo naman sir punahin yung decision nila bat nila binili yung speakers na yun.. sabi mo nga don sa post mo... respeto lang.. basta happy ka sa gears mo e, dapat isipin mo na happy din sila.. e di lahat tayo happy.. ;) :D peace po.. :)
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sir not offended naman.. wala naman akong ganyang gears e.. pero wag mo naman sir punahin yung decision nila bat nila binili yung speakers na yun.. sabi mo nga don sa post mo... respeto lang.. basta happy ka sa gears mo e, dapat isipin mo na happy din sila.. e di lahat tayo happy.. ;) :D peace po.. :)
sir, kaya po may disclaimer po ako na "please dont be offended" kaya po ako nag comment nun, dahil its just an observation clinging on my mind saka isa pa just an expression of such opinion lang po, gumana lang po kasi yung analytic portion ng mind ko eh hehehe!
anyways its just a comparison ng mga products between dai-ichi and other brands po. the depreciation, performance ratio between value, resales etc etc... wala pong ibang ibig sabihin yun kung hindi pure obervations, comments and suggestions... free naman po ito diba?
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palagay ko madami na offend sa "please don't be offended" post mo hanns pero di na lang pinansin, yun nga lang meron hindi nakatiis at sumagot sa "please don't be offended" observations mo. ;D ;D ;D
ano ba yan. ;D ;D ;D
kamusta na pag break-in mo sa Euros 8 mo? gaano ba katagal ang break-in period niyan?
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anyone know if there are anymore dtx speakers available na similar sa klipsch synergy na bookshelves? yung similar sa sb-2 ?
(http://www.klipsch.com/media/Photos/SB2_300.jpg)
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O cge tutal free naman ang magsabi ng observations...eto saken.
Ambilis ng mga reply sa thread na to mula nung nakabili ng euros si bro hanns.
Nyehehe. CHILL lang mga bro!! ;D ;D
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ang intindi ko lang kung bakit mas marami nagbebenta agad ng mamahaling speakers is because the sellling price will actually "compensate" un kulang sa budget nila to purchase a higher/better models.
Example lang po
kung meron akong euros8 and a BW 602 and im planning to upgrade to dynaudio focus series. sa akin lng better sell the BW para mas kunti na lng idadagdag ko to get a pair of dyns which is probably a better speaker than the two. ;D
So sa mga katulad ko na mejo kapos sa budget mahirap talaga palitan ang euro8 because of price difference sa branded and better speakers like dynaudio. A very huge adjustment sa budget if i decided to jump from a very good local speaker to a better foreign speakers.
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sige nga mag mini eye ball ang Euros8 owner sa April 13 ;D
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Sa mga owner ng Dai-ichi speakers lahat ba kayo gamit nyong avr ay Yamaha?
Maganda rin ba tunog nya sa HK.
Meron na kasi akong HK at medyo kapos sa budget to buy the actual speakers na gusto ko.
Balak ko sana iyang euros 8 napansin ko lang puro Yamaha ang receiver ang naka-pair sa kanya.
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Sa mga owner ng Dai-ichi speakers lahat ba kayo gamit nyong avr ay Yamaha?
Maganda rin ba tunog nya sa HK.
Meron na kasi akong HK at medyo kapos sa budget to buy the actual speakers na gusto ko.
Balak ko sana iyang euros 8 napansin ko lang puro Yamaha ang receiver ang naka-pair sa kanya.
audition the speakers with your receiver or, take it slow, buy the front speakers na gusto mo first
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Sa mga owner ng Dai-ichi speakers lahat ba kayo gamit nyong avr ay Yamaha?
Maganda rin ba tunog nya sa HK.
Meron na kasi akong HK at medyo kapos sa budget to buy the actual speakers na gusto ko.
Balak ko sana iyang euros 8 napansin ko lang puro Yamaha ang receiver ang naka-pair sa kanya.
Here's my observation: I once heard the Euros 8 being auditioned on an HK. It performed better on Audio. It had less clarity on HT. I could say it was because of the receiver. It made me conclude that the Euros are a pretty neutral speaker system. It performed very well on HT but was weak on Audio with a Yamaha. It was great on Audio but was a bit muffled on HT with an HK. These floorstanders perform very well with a "bassy" amp. I've also used other Daiichi speakers on Pioneers, which to me, for Audio applications, is a great combo. But that's just my own ears. ;D
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sige nga mag mini eye ball ang Euros8 owner sa April 13 ;D
Text text na lang tayo. Eto sa akin: 09202405720 ;D
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gusto ko rin umattend ng mini EB pero PUWEDE huwag naman sa holy week! hehe
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gusto ko rin umattend ng mini EB pero PUWEDE huwag naman sa holy week! hehe
Taga Bacolod kc ako bro e. Baka ang iba pwede. ;D
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Uyy sali ako sa EB ng Euros 8 kahit sa mega mall tayo kita kita para magulat si sir John hehehe!... confirm nyo kung ano date...
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palagay ko madami na offend sa "please don't be offended" post mo hanns pero di na lang pinansin, yun nga lang meron hindi nakatiis at sumagot sa "please don't be offended" observations mo. ;D ;D ;D
ano ba yan. ;D ;D ;D
kamusta na pag break-in mo sa Euros 8 mo? gaano ba katagal ang break-in period niyan?
Oh sa mga na offend po sorry na! its just. I want to defend Dai-ichi for this nice product (Euros 8) kung baga need not to go further in terms of value vs: performance. eto na nasa bansa na natin itong dai-ichi speakers na ito. bigyan naman natin ng chance...
sa break in period naman, I have no idea kung ilan hours. basta nung hinook ko siya sa Yamaha AVR (795a) ang ganda na nag reproduction ng audio at HT. almost lahat ng DSP nagagamit ko, Rock concert, Concert hall, Jazz, Mono movie, DD Enhanced, DTS enhanced. galing galing... ;D
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O cge tutal free naman ang magsabi ng observations...eto saken.
Ambilis ng mga reply sa thread na to mula nung nakabili ng euros si bro hanns.
Nyehehe. CHILL lang mga bro!! ;D ;D
KOREK! dipensa ko lang naman sariling atin eh...
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ang intindi ko lang kung bakit mas marami nagbebenta agad ng mamahaling speakers is because the sellling price will actually "compensate" un kulang sa budget nila to purchase a higher/better models.
Example lang po
kung meron akong euros8 and a BW 602 and im planning to upgrade to dynaudio focus series. sa akin lng better sell the BW para mas kunti na lng idadagdag ko to get a pair of dyns which is probably a better speaker than the two. ;D
So sa mga katulad ko na mejo kapos sa budget mahirap talaga palitan ang euro8 because of price difference sa branded and better speakers like dynaudio. A very huge adjustment sa budget if i decided to jump from a very good local speaker to a better foreign speakers.
Sir question lang po. so what would you rather buy then? A Euros 8 that performs well on its price (kahit anong oras na masira andyan lang ang service center no need to take care like a baby), or a foreign brand that performs very good as well (pero kailangan nang ibayong pag iingat dahil sa price tag niya)?
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Sa mga owner ng Dai-ichi speakers lahat ba kayo gamit nyong avr ay Yamaha?
Maganda rin ba tunog nya sa HK.
Meron na kasi akong HK at medyo kapos sa budget to buy the actual speakers na gusto ko.
Balak ko sana iyang euros 8 napansin ko lang puro Yamaha ang receiver ang naka-pair sa kanya.
well mostly Yamaha ang gamit kahit sa mga showrooms ng dai-ichi mismo Yamaha din ang AVR's nila. well based on my listening...
Iba talga ang tandem nitong dalwa. iba ang chemistry. yung Dai-ichi (Euros) nag perperform ng mukhang mamahalin branded speakers. pang naka hook up sa Yamaha. kung baga bang for the buck.
like what im using right now Yamaha 795a and Euros 8 system (except the sub) sa terms of performance. audio performs well. sa HT naman panalong panalo medyo may edge talga compare sa HK. kahit wala pang sub galing ng dynamic range. nakakagulat sa effects. sa analysis ko. Im not using a high-performance AVR and lalo na sa speakers. pero na aachive niya na ma-entertain ako. pero its just me ciguro iba ang preference ng iba.
me Im some how stuck on this system. I rather enjoy my fine time with these gears rather than upgrading from time to time. yung naman ang purpose nitong mga gear na ito eh. to entertain me. not to impress others... matatagalan pa bago ako magupgrade into a higher braded version..
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hanns,
I'm a patriot myself, so like you I like our homegrown stuff. And tama talaga na walang tatalo sa price/performance ratio ng DaiIchi. It so happens na in some cases, kapag tumaas ang price, significant din ang pagtaas ng performance. However, significant lamang ito kung perceived ng listener, pero kung hindi naman ang sasabihin nun pareho lang ang tunog kaya syempre panalo yun mas mura. Yun naman mga nagbebenta ng speakers sabihin na lang natin na mas mabilis mag mature ang kanilang listening attitudes kaya kailangan na nilang magpalit.
Actually sa gulaman boys meron kami kasama na hindi niya nadidinig ang difference sa performance, pero we respect him and he respects us so tuloy ang gulaman. ;D kaya ang saya ng hobby na ito diba? Kaya nga audition kami ng audition para madinig at malaman kung alin ang babagay sa amin pandinig.
It all boils down to everyones ears kaya lahat tayo dito privelaged na magkaroon ng kahit na anong gears na gusto natin. Mabuhay ka.
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hanns,
I'm a patriot myself, so like you I like our homegrown stuff. And tama talaga na walang tatalo sa price/performance ratio ng DaiIchi. It so happens na in some cases, kapag tumaas ang price, significant din ang pagtaas ng performance. However, significant lamang ito kung perceived ng listener, pero kung hindi naman ang sasabihin nun pareho lang ang tunog kaya syempre panalo yun mas mura. Yun naman mga nagbebenta ng speakers sabihin na lang natin na mas mabilis mag mature ang kanilang listening attitudes kaya kailangan na nilang magpalit.
Actually sa gulaman boys meron kami kasama na hindi niya nadidinig ang difference sa performance, pero we respect him and he respects us so tuloy ang gulaman. ;D kaya ang saya ng hobby na ito diba? Kaya nga audition kami ng audition para madinig at malaman kung alin ang babagay sa amin pandinig.
It all boils down to everyones ears kaya lahat tayo dito privelaged na magkaroon ng kahit na anong gears na gusto natin. Mabuhay ka.
RESPECT. Amen ;D
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Text text na lang tayo. Eto sa akin: 09202405720 ;D
Holy Thursday will be ok with me. Good Friday kasi will go to the province. Sir Art mine is 09175207470 ;)
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RESPECT. Amen ;D
art,
Amen bro.
;D
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your own HT! your own money! your own turf! peace to all...
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hanns,
I'm a patriot myself, so like you I like our homegrown stuff. And tama talaga na walang tatalo sa price/performance ratio ng DaiIchi. It so happens na in some cases, kapag tumaas ang price, significant din ang pagtaas ng performance. However, significant lamang ito kung perceived ng listener, pero kung hindi naman ang sasabihin nun pareho lang ang tunog kaya syempre panalo yun mas mura. Yun naman mga nagbebenta ng speakers sabihin na lang natin na mas mabilis mag mature ang kanilang listening attitudes kaya kailangan na nilang magpalit.
Actually sa gulaman boys meron kami kasama na hindi niya nadidinig ang difference sa performance, pero we respect him and he respects us so tuloy ang gulaman. ;D kaya ang saya ng hobby na ito diba? Kaya nga audition kami ng audition para madinig at malaman kung alin ang babagay sa amin pandinig.
It all boils down to everyones ears kaya lahat tayo dito privelaged na magkaroon ng kahit na anong gears na gusto natin. Mabuhay ka.
BOSS JOJO, pasensya na po ha? comments and suggestion lang po iyon sa akin para sa "dai-ichi" thread na ito. wala pong masamang tinapay po iyon. pag pasensyahan nyo na po
yung mga katulad namin... pasensya na ho?
anyways getting back to Dai-ichi thread... bakit kaya dun sa website nila (www.dai-ichi.ph) yung euros 8 towers nila naka lagay triple 6" woofer pero kung titignan mo 2 lang ata, then yung isa parang midrange yata ito then tweeter.
tapos sa rating nila 150w yung towers, center at bookshelfs, kahit iba iba ang drivers nila. pero its okey naman dahil cool naman ang timbre matching...
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me Im some how stuck on this system. I rather enjoy my fine time with these gears rather than upgrading from time to time. yung naman ang purpose nitong mga gear na ito eh. to entertain me. not to impress others... matatagalan pa bago ako magupgrade into a higher braded version..
Very nice reasoning here bro,i like it ;) ;D
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Holy Thursday will be ok with me. Good Friday kasi will go to the province. Sir Art mine is 09175207470 ;)
Sama ako diyan! Kaya lang pwede bang Sunday? Baka sakali lang. Mine is 0919-8539799.
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Sir question lang po. so what would you rather buy then? A Euros 8 that performs well on its price (kahit anong oras na masira andyan lang ang service center no need to take care like a baby), or a foreign brand that performs very good as well (pero kailangan nang ibayong pag iingat dahil sa price tag niya)?
i think its a virtue to take care of your equipment whatever price you bought it...sa yo yan e. ok ang daiichi for the price, pero merong speakers na mas ok...mas mahal nga lang...if you can afford it..go for it, kung hindi..at least ok ang price perfrmance ratio. depends on your priorities man. i would rather not have to lug my speakers to a service center ke malapit or hindi, better take care of it na lang :)
hindi ko po tinitira ang daiichi, nagsisisi nga ako sa dtx speakers na katulad ng klipsch sb2 na pinakawalan ko, and my speakers with marble enclosure uses a daiichi hifi woofer..and i love the way it sounds :)
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i think its a virtue to take care of your equipment whatever price you bought it...sa yo yan e. ok ang daiichi for the price, pero merong speakers na mas ok...mas mahal nga lang...if you can afford it..go for it, kung hindi..at least ok ang price perfrmance ratio. depends on your priorities man. i would rather not have to lug my speakers to a service center ke malapit or hindi, better take care of it na lang :)
brod, its not the matter of taking care of your gears, lahat naman tayo ginagawa yun diba? logical nalang yun. ang point ko dito is. do you really need to buy such expensive gears just to entertain your self? ciguro sa mga can afford good for them (opnion lang po ito ha? baka may mag violent reaction na naman dyan!) pero sa mga budget wise maybe... pero yung warranty and services is just a side dish of what the true products purpose is "entertainment"...
hindi ko po tinitira ang daiichi, nagsisisi nga ako sa dtx speakers na katulad ng klipsch sb2 na pinakawalan ko, and my speakers with marble enclosure uses a daiichi hifi woofer..and i love the way it sounds :)
thats one hard thing to learn. now you know what you lost...
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Kapag hindi ako out of town nang April 13 sama ako 09209051048. I think sarado megamall nang holy thursday.
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Dapat may activity... para ndi boring. Inuman? inuman? nyehehehe
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it ain't hard to learn what you lost, kaya i still have speakers with a marble enclosure using daiichi drivers, kasi implemented properly they can sound good ;)
anyone tried the 8" full range drivers being sold by daiichi?
(http://www.pbase.com/jagner/image/34404504/medium.jpg)
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it ain't hard to learn what you lost, kaya i still have speakers with a marble enclosure using daiichi drivers, kasi implemented properly they can sound good ;)
anyone tried the 8" full range drivers being sold by daiichi?
(http://www.pbase.com/jagner/image/34404504/medium.jpg)
Sir ganda ng pagkakagawa ah? is that dai-ichi? kita mo nga naman basta maayos at pulido, talgang world class ang dating? ciguro pati audio quality okey din?
sir pa tingin naman ng marble speakers mo? at least meron ka pang natirang dai-ichi. sir meron silang towers na 4k lang yung piano finish na may side firing woofer. narinig mo na ba to? for me nung audition ko ito ang ganda ng clarity at tightness ng bass, kamukha siya BP series ng def tech, pag nagka budget ako bibilihin ko ulit para sa bed room hehehe...
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diy yan, pero daiichi full range driver ang ginamit. tsaka heavily tweaked para mag-iba yung tunog yung driver. alam ko mura lang yung driver na yan ng daiichi kaya parang gusto kong subukan.
eto yung speakers ko, galing ke anthony yung enclosure, pinalitan ko yung driverng daiichi na 6". ok naman :)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/japjag/100_4091.jpg)
With matching stands
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/japjag/100_4090.jpg)
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anyways getting back to Dai-ichi thread... bakit kaya dun sa website nila (www.dai-ichi.ph) yung euros 8 towers nila naka lagay triple 6" woofer pero kung titignan mo 2 lang ata, then yung isa parang midrange yata ito then tweeter.
tapos sa rating nila 150w yung towers, center at bookshelfs, kahit iba iba ang drivers nila. pero its okey naman dahil cool naman ang timbre matching...
Believe me bro, not everything in the site is accurate.
Oh and aah, I think it takes a true gentleman to be able to admit his mistakes, and have the guts to apologize for it. But I don't really think it was a mistake bro. You were just expressing your opinion, maybe you just worded it inaccurately. ;)
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yung naman ang purpose nitong mga gear na ito eh. to entertain me. not to impress others...
I like that perspective too. But to say that Daiichi speakers are not impressive? I think they are. I wouldn't be surprised if any expensive speaker is impressive. Why? Because you paid for it to be impressive. Binutas na nga ang bulsa mo tapos di pa impressive? Ano yan? BOSE? (obvious ba na galit sa Bose? Hehehe ;D) But what is impressive to me, is anything that wouldn't put a hole in your pocket but would stil perform beyond the expectations you have for such a price range. But that's just me. ;D
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There at Phasetron, they use Daiichi.
Lovely.
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diy yan, pero daiichi full range driver ang ginamit. tsaka heavily tweaked para mag-iba yung tunog yung driver. alam ko mura lang yung driver na yan ng daiichi kaya parang gusto kong subukan.
eto yung speakers ko, galing ke anthony yung enclosure, pinalitan ko yung driverng daiichi na 6". ok naman :)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/japjag/100_4091.jpg)
With matching stands
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/japjag/100_4090.jpg)
ang ganda hanep! mabuhay ka sir john at si sir mel talgang pwede nang pang export ang gawa ng a-audio. actually I made a DIY speakers din before with dai-ichi and my sister is using it for her living room. towers din siya mero slim type. ayun nagustuhan ni utol yung porma at tunog kaya na arbor. those 5" 2 pcs dai-ichi drivers plus one metal dome tweeter really blend together with crossover. ang naging problem ko lang nun kasi hindi siya magnetical shielded. pero like wise okey din ang performance...
sir ganda talga ng speakers mo. mabuhay ka!...
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I like that perspective too. But to say that Daiichi speakers are not impressive? I think they are. I wouldn't be surprised if any expensive speaker is impressive. Why? Because you paid for it to be impressive. Binutas na nga ang bulsa mo tapos di pa impressive? Ano yan? BOSE? (obvious ba na galit sa Bose? Hehehe ;D) But what is impressive to me, is anything that wouldn't put a hole in your pocket but would stil perform beyond the expectations you have for such a price range. But that's just me. ;D
sir parehas tayo, thats what I look for not only through speakers but all of my audio gears as well. ang hirap yata kitain ng pero now a days. na biktima na ako ng BOSE before ang pagkakamali ko lang noon at Acoustimas 5 ang nabili ko sana nga yung 301 nalang eh. naloko ako nun dahil sa small size big sound niya. yung pala kulang sa acuracy ang tunog. tapos ang hirap pa mag hanap ng powered subwoofer na magbblend sa kanya. anyways BOSE AM series are different from their box type mukha naman magaganda yung woodtype box speakers nila. yun nga lang it goes down to one thing "overprice"...
anyways agree ako sayo na there is something out there in the market that will entertain you but wouldnt put a hole in your pocket...
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Kapag hindi ako out of town nang April 13 sama ako 09209051048. I think sarado megamall nang holy thursday.
To my knowledge, the only time Megamall closes is New Year's day. ;)
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john,
i thought you were using an open baffle implementation - that is what I want to see :D
If I were to pick a dai ichi full range, I will have them power a T-amp and test each candidate with my CD player and material - baka magdala na rin ako ng board to clip-mount each candidate in an open baffle for an audition right at their site. ;D
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Mga bro magkano ngayon bookshelves tska center ng euros 8? san mas mura? sa raon o sa mega?
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Mga bro magkano ngayon bookshelves tska center ng euros 8? san mas mura? sa raon o sa mega?
Suggestion bro: Try calling both, then a dealer. Then see which has a lower price. ;D
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Mga bro magkano ngayon bookshelves tska center ng euros 8? san mas mura? sa raon o sa mega?
sir based on my recent purchases:
Bookshelfs
Mega mall : 2,600
Raon: 3,500
Center
Megamall : 2k
Raon: 2,5k
Towers
megamall: 7k
raon: 8,9k
subwoofer:
megamall: 7k
raon: 8,5k
Recent those are recent prices, those are based on knight audio in raon and main branch dai-ichi megamall.
Note: bookshelfs and center speakers are not available in megamall yet! but you can order...
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do you really need to buy such expensive gears just to entertain your self? ciguro sa mga can afford good for them (opnion lang po ito ha? baka may mag violent reaction na naman dyan!) pero sa mga budget wise maybe... pero yung warranty and services is just a side dish of what the true products purpose is "entertainment"...
thats one hard thing to learn. now you know what you lost...
YES and NO! Yes if it will bring me pleasure but No if it won't. Don't get me wrong, ang dami ko Dai-Ichi speakers dito sa bahay ngayon but this time the reason I didn't get a Daiichi bookshelf is because hindi ko nagustuhan yun tunog niya. And I would probably not get a Euros din if it won't bring me pleasure kahit na ano pang mura niyan. Kung sabagay ang dami mo sinabi na brands ang speakers na napakinggan mo na and still you are happy with your Euros floorstanders, this is one of the reason why I want to try them out kasi magkaiba naman tayo ng ears and so I can hear it for myself.
Yung entertaining na sa iyo pwedng maging irritating sa iba. Simple lang yun concept. pero mahirap explain.
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john,
naka try na din ako niyan, binigay sa akin pero unfortunately pinamigay ko na din. single 8" full range driver. ok na sana tunog, problema lang ang hirap i-drive. for flea watt amp purposes sana kaso di kaya but it was published sa showroom to be 90+dB sensitivity. pati yun diy 6" MTM ko sabi 89dB pero di din na drive ng 6W EL34 SET.
sana nga ngayon hindi lang engineering at aesthetics ang improve nila (truthfully and gaganda na ng product lines), sana address din nila yun true measurement ng sensitivity.
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john,
i thought you were using an open baffle implementation - that is what I want to see :D
If I were to pick a dai ichi full range, I will have them power a T-amp and test each candidate with my CD player and material - baka magdala na rin ako ng board to clip-mount each candidate in an open baffle for an audition right at their site. ;D
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/japjag/100_4092.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/japjag/100_4093.jpg)
using it sa family room...kahit wala pa nalalagyan na finish :-[ nice idea, i can probably test the driver at the showroom powered by a t-amp, kaso i checked the website 88db lang sya...will try when i get the time.
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wow ganda! :o
your tweeter looks a lot like a Velodyne. ;D thumbs up!
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velodyne yung tweeter. btw, naglabas pala before ng planar tweeter yung daiichi
(http://www.partsexpress.com/images/264-713m.jpg)
malamang oem
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YES and NO! Yes if it will bring me pleasure but No if it won't. Don't get me wrong, ang dami ko Dai-Ichi speakers dito sa bahay ngayon but this time the reason I didn't get a Daiichi bookshelf is because hindi ko nagustuhan yun tunog niya. And I would probably not get a Euros din if it won't bring me pleasure kahit na ano pang mura niyan. Kung sabagay ang dami mo sinabi na brands ang speakers na napakinggan mo na and still you are happy with your Euros floorstanders, this is one of the reason why I want to try them out kasi magkaiba naman tayo ng ears and so I can hear it for myself.
Yung entertaining na sa iyo pwedng maging irritating sa iba. Simple lang yun concept. pero mahirap explain.
I agree with you sir jojo...
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john,
naka try na din ako niyan, binigay sa akin pero unfortunately pinamigay ko na din. single 8" full range driver. ok na sana tunog, problema lang ang hirap i-drive. for flea watt amp purposes sana kaso di kaya but it was published sa showroom to be 90+dB sensitivity. pati yun diy 6" MTM ko sabi 89dB pero di din na drive ng 6W EL34 SET.
sana nga ngayon hindi lang engineering at aesthetics ang improve nila (truthfully and gaganda na ng product lines), sana address din nila yun true measurement ng sensitivity.
iba pa yata ang readings nila nun eh. bulag pa yata sila noon or hula hula hehehe! pero I think now medyo accurate na yung readings nila. because of the technology kailangan nilang maging accurate other wise yung mga nag papagawa sa kanila ng OEM abroad eh mag baback out, plus awarded na sila ng certificate para sa accuracy ng products nila. I believe one of the Euros owners here tested a Euros 8 for the 50hz readings and according dun sa instument na ginamit niya aided with a computer program eh accurate naman daw. this is because of the comparison between Euros 6 vs. 8 readings dahil meron yata nag inquire...
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wow ganda! :o
your tweeter looks a lot like a Velodyne. ;D thumbs up!
just for your info. i inquired about that tweeter from Velodyne USA three years ago and according to them, it was commissioned to a Taiwanese firm. there was a problem in specs, so that model (as told) was rejected. i told them it sounds nice and cleaner than many US-made tweeters. i have three pairs of those as back up in case of busts in HF units of my major speakers. incidentally i pulled my tweeter units out of their plastic case (with the Velodyne mark) making them flexible for replacement for other dome-tweeter assemblies.
since this is a Daichi thread, just to share my previous experience. back in early '90s, the company commissioned a European designer to overhaul Daichi's speakers from local-looking to imported-looking, using wood veneer-like covers for boxes liberally. even the drivers changed into units comparable with foreign made. i bought four pairs of different model speaker systems at that time and my impression was that performance and looks indeed improved. however, the LF drivers still can't get down very low and the HF not as clean as some of those made outside. the company got my feedback since i was interested in distributing it in our province, which is another story.
of my 4 pairs, only one - a CB-100 floor stander - is being used now, only for experiment using other drivers and changing x'over circuits. the 3 other smaller units were given away to friends and officemates. for Daichi's price, vis-a-vis performance and looks, i'd say it's a bargain compared with some imported speakers including British-made. still got a few Daichi and China-made LF units here and Daichi, to my ears, sounded better. haven't bought any of the new Daichi speaker systems, however, but i guess they have improved significantly from those sold in late '80s and '90s.
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sir based on my recent purchases:
Bookshelfs
Mega mall : 2,600
Raon: 3,500
Center
Megamall : 2k
Raon: 2,5k
Towers
megamall: 7k
raon: 8,9k
subwoofer:
megamall: 7k
raon: 8,5k
Recent those are recent prices, those are based on knight audio in raon and main branch dai-ichi megamall.
Note: bookshelfs and center speakers are not available in megamall yet! but you can order...
Bro salamat. May numbr ka ng mega showroom? baka pwede mahingi. salamat ulit chong
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Bro salamat. May numbr ka ng mega showroom? baka pwede mahingi. salamat ulit chong
here brod:
Dai-ichi showrooms & service center
SM MEGAMALL BRANCH
5th level building B
SM Megamall
Mandaluyong City
Tel. 635-3111
RAON BRANCH
2nd floor Raon Shopping Center
Quezon Blvd. Corner Raon St.,
Quiapo, Manila
Tel. 733-2765 to 66 or 69 / 314-8518
MAIN OFFICE
Pasig City 1600 Philippines
Tel. 645-4891 to 93
fax. 645-2314
For Technical Assistance
Call: 645-0969 / 645-6639
TUV certified
ISO-9001;2000 certified by: AJA - UKAS
www.daiichi.ph
Good luck brod... happy speakers hunting... :)
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iba pa yata ang readings nila nun eh. bulag pa yata sila noon or hula hula hehehe! pero I think now medyo accurate na yung readings nila. because of the technology kailangan nilang maging accurate other wise yung mga nag papagawa sa kanila ng OEM abroad eh mag baback out, plus awarded na sila ng certificate para sa accuracy ng products nila. I believe one of the Euros owners here tested a Euros 8 for the 50hz readings and according dun sa instument na ginamit niya aided with a computer program eh accurate naman daw. this is because of the comparison between Euros 6 vs. 8 readings dahil meron yata nag inquire...
mga 3 years old na yata yun speakers na diy ko, i use them as my fronts now (ayan ha daiichi user din ako!) but before it was commisioned for HT it was primarily diy'd for audio. baka nga medyo sablay pa noon ang sensitivity ratings nila. swerte nyo naman at naayos na ang ratings ngayon.
I don't know what test uses 50Hz, baka sa bottom end accuracy yan sinasabi mo hanns but yun concern ko is yun sensitivity, more often it is conducted with 1KHz at 1W and 1 meter. Just the same, maybe in the future ma test natin sa tube yan Euros mo pag hindi na ako veeery busy - I'm in the process of designing a new sub controller and amp for my "Paradigm" clone subwoofer. ;D
cheers
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just for your info. i inquired about that tweeter from Velodyne USA three years ago and according to them, it was commissioned to a Taiwanese firm. there was a problem in specs, so that model (as told) was rejected. i told them it sounds nice and cleaner than many US-made tweeters. i have three pairs of those as back up in case of busts in HF units of my major speakers. incidentally i pulled my tweeter units out of their plastic case (with the Velodyne mark) making them flexible for replacement for other dome-tweeter assemblies.
my former classmate who is now in the US Army gave this to me when he came back for a vacation. I had no use for it at the time but when my daiichi tweeters conked out, I installed them in and they were wonderful, sounds great too. ;D these speakers are a part of daiichi's 1st generation HT in a box bought back in 1996.
I use them now for testing newly built amps.
(http://www.filehigh.com/serve/13381/133020.jpg)
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best regards
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my former classmate who is now in the US Army gave this to me when he came back for a vacation. I had no use for it at the time but when my daiichi tweeters conked out, I installed them in and they were wonderful, sounds great too. ;D these speakers are a part of daiichi's 1st generation HT in a box bought back in 1996.
I use them now for testing newly built amps.
(http://www.filehigh.com/serve/13381/133020.jpg)
(http://www.filehigh.com/serve/13381/133019.jpg)
best regards
ganda ng dai-ichi mo sir ah match sa velo tweeters. I had the same type of box dai-ichi before as my center speakers. pero na arbor ni insan. hes still using it right now. matibay pa nga kaysa dun sa def tech niya na pro80. dahil ilang beses na niya pinarepair yung pro80 sa avid dahil laging busted yung midbass drivers. pero yung dai-ichi buong buo pa lalo pa nga daw gumanda yung tunog.
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Korek ka dyan hanns!
lintyak ang titibay ng mga drivers nito, ilan amp na nag hum, crackle, thump, oscillating etc ang na test ko pero buhay pa naman. ;D
I still have the center and surround - even the sub. kaso cannibalized na yun sub dahil I upgraded the LF filters from dai-ichi's passive to a fixed active and also they used a 7294 gainclone for the amp pero pinalitan ko din yun amp. yun sub driver na lang at yun box ang natira na orig pero ayus na ayus pa naman.
it's also true na habang tumatagal ay gumaganda tunog... yan nasa pics sobrang bugbog sa pag testing kasi kaya na break-in. kaya kung gusto nyo pa na mas lalung gumanda ang mga dai-ichi ninyo - bugbugin nyo ng bugbugin... huwag kayo matakot - lifetime warranty yan! ;D ;D ;D
disclaimer: huwag ako sisihin pag nasira ha. ;D ;D ;D
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Korek ka dyan hanns!
lintyak ang titibay ng mga drivers nito, ilan amp na nag hum, crackle, thump, oscillating etc ang na test ko pero buhay pa naman. ;D
I still have the center and surround - even the sub. kaso cannibalized na yun sub dahil I upgraded the LF filters from dai-ichi's passive to a fixed active and also they used a 7294 gainclone for the amp pero pinalitan ko din yun amp. yun sub driver na lang at yun box ang natira na orig pero ayus na ayus pa naman.
it's also true na habang tumatagal ay gumaganda tunog... yan nasa pics sobrang bugbog sa pag testing kasi kaya na break-in. kaya kung gusto nyo pa na mas lalung gumanda ang mga dai-ichi ninyo - bugbugin nyo ng bugbugin... huwag kayo matakot - lifetime warranty yan! ;D ;D ;D
disclaimer: huwag ako sisihin pag nasira ha. ;D ;D ;D
Hahaha!
seriously sir ano yung model ng sub mo? mukha nga matibay eh...
Actualy, im looking for a sub, planning to buy, end of this month before leaving. nasa 7 to 8k lang budget ko kaya nag hihintay ako ng magandang sub na magbebenta dito sa B & S section...
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sige nga mag mini eye ball ang Euros8 owner sa April 13 ;D
Parang gusto kong maki-gulo sa inyo... ;D
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Parang gusto kong maki-gulo sa inyo... ;D
Join nah!!!
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Hahaha!
seriously sir ano yung model ng sub mo? mukha nga matibay eh...
Actualy, im looking for a sub, planning to buy, end of this month before leaving. nasa 7 to 8k lang budget ko kaya nag hihintay ako ng magandang sub na magbebenta dito sa B & S section...
don't know what model it is pero yan yun kasama sa package nun HT nila dati. meron din ako binili noon na sub sa kanila yun naka push-pull isobaric configuration kaso binenta ko na eh, hindi kasi kami magkasundo. ;D ;D ;D
ngayon I still have these sub drivers from Dai-Ichi...
2 pcs 1st generation Cyclone 12" sub
2 pcs Targa 12" sub
1 pc Targa 12" sub dual voice coil
balak ko itayo lahat ulit para may party sa bahay. ;D ;D ;D
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don't know what model it is pero yan yun kasama sa package nun HT nila dati. meron din ako binili noon na sub sa kanila yun naka push-pull isobaric configuration kaso binenta ko na eh, hindi kasi kami magkasundo. ;D ;D ;D
ngayon I still have these sub drivers from Dai-Ichi...
2 pcs 1st generation Cyclone 12" sub
2 pcs Targa 12" sub
1 pc Targa 12" sub dual voice coil
balak ko itayo lahat ulit para may party sa bahay. ;D ;D ;D
sir hataw yan pag na buo lahat, low freq every where hehehe! yan ang tunay na bass non-localization...
baka makabili nadin ako ng sub by this coming april, Im choosing between DTX 6.12 or the Euros 12 sub, dami kasi reviews na maganda ang DTX comapare sa US audio, pero sa Euros sub wala pa ako nababasa...
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Imagine yun 12" Cyclone sub ng Dai-Ichi, 1995 ko pa binili yun pair na yun pero hanggang ngayon buhay pa. ;D ;D ;D
Sa susunod susubok naman ako ng ibang brand ng sub, imported at local para mas exciting.
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yamaha rxv-630 pala ang gamit ng daiichi megamall! ;D
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Guys, Any comments on the PL 100 model ng dai-ichi.
OK ba ito?
Napansin ko kasi mas mataas sensitivity nya compared sa Euros.
Another thing.
Nakalagay kasi sa web 100 watts max - what does this mean?
Ano talaga wattage nya?
Lastly does dai-ichi have different finished on their speakers?
TIA
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Guys, Any comments on the PL 100 model ng dai-ichi.
OK ba ito?
Napansin ko kasi mas mataas sensitivity nya compared sa Euros.
Another thing.
Nakalagay kasi sa web 100 watts max - what does this mean?
Ano talaga wattage nya?
Lastly does dai-ichi have different finished on their speakers?
TIA
Sir Ive seen and auditioned PL100 being played at spectra makati with AMX tube amp. hataw din sa clarity....
the rating on 100 watts max means the maximum power rating capabilities... you can load a 100Wpc avr into this speakers.
colors can be changed depends on your order. Euros series can be ordered with silver finish...
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Guys, Any comments on the PL 100 model ng dai-ichi.
OK ba ito?
Napansin ko kasi mas mataas sensitivity nya compared sa Euros.
Another thing.
Nakalagay kasi sa web 100 watts max - what does this mean?
TIA
Bro, kung sa web site ng Dai-1chi mo nakita ang specs... wag mo gaanong pansinin yun. Based on past experience, di gaanong reliable yung specs na nakalagay dun.
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Is the Phoenix Gold Subwoofer driver made by Dai-ichi? Saan nakakabili nito?
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sir hataw yan pag na buo lahat, low freq every where hehehe! yan ang tunay na bass non-localization...
baka makabili nadin ako ng sub by this coming april, Im choosing between DTX 6.12 or the Euros 12 sub, dami kasi reviews na maganda ang DTX comapare sa US audio, pero sa Euros sub wala pa ako nababasa...
The Euros sub, I think, never really captured that much interest because of the fact that it's a subwoofer with a bandpass enclosure. HT enthusiasts often prefer front firing subs because of better accuracy. Of all the Daiichi subs I am aware of to date, there are only two that I'm eyeing. One is the DTX 4.12 or 4.15 and the other is a new one with the Pro Linear label, I forgot the model though. These are the only front firing subs they seem to offer. I'm recently more interested with the Pro Linear sub since it had a better looking driver than the 4. series of DTX. Although I never really audition it extensively, it seemed to me it would perform better than the DTX 4. series. Physically, the PL driver looked liked it had a much better construction and I tried pushing the cone, it was harder to push than the DTX. The suspension seemed better and the cone material too. But I only had very little time to compare both performance wise.
Now, with the US Audio subs, which are also bandpass subs, are to my knowledge, the most powerful of all Daiichi subs I've heard of. Malakas talaga sya, but at the price of accuracy of course. It's very powerful at it's resonant frequency range but mahina at other frequencies. Audible ang difference in volume. I have this one at home. Hope I helped. ;D
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The Euros sub, I think, never really captured that much interest is because of the fact that it's a subwoofer with a bandpass enclosure. HT enthusiasts often prefer front firing subs because of better accuracy. Of all the Daiichi subs I am aware of to date, there are only two that I'm eyeing. One is the DTX 4.12 or 4.15 and the other is a new one with the Pro Linear label, I forgot the model though. These are the only front firing subs they seem to offer. I'm recently more interested with the Pro Linear sub since it had a better looking driver than the 4. series of DTX. Although I never really audition it extensively, it seemed to me it would perform better than the DTX 4. series. Physically, the PL driver looked liked it had a much better construction and I tried pushing the cone, it was harder to push than the DTX. The suspension seemed better and the cone material too. But I only had very little time to compare both performance wise.
Now, with the US Audio subs, which are also bandpass subs, are to my knowledge, the most powerful of all Daiichi subs I've heard off. Malakas talaga sya, but at the price of accuracy of course. It's very powerful at it's resonant frequency range but mahina at other frequencies. Audible ang difference in volume. I have this one at home. Hope I helped. ;D
Thanks Sir arthurallanj, I'll scratch the Euro sub in my list, I too prefer those front firing than those bandpass front ported ones, before I had the GSX Ganzklar sub which is also a front ported bandpass design. its heavy its powerful but not that accurate, when drived it at a high SPL, it produces turbulant noice coming out from the tubes. and the cooling fan at the ampplate seems to produce noice also.
I'll try to look for those DTX 4 series, by the way what can you say about the SW150 does it performs well? Im eyeing a 2nd SW150 from the B&S section. anyways I'll try to consider those prolinear subs and US audio subs...
thanks again sir...
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Thanks Sir arthurallanj, I'll scratch the Euro sub in my list, I too prefer those front firing than those bandpass front ported ones, before I had the GSX Ganzklar sub which is also a front ported bandpass design. its heavy its powerful but not that accurate, when drived it at a high SPL, it produces turbulant noice coming out from the tubes. and the cooling fan at the ampplate seems to produce noice also.
I'll try to look for those DTX 4 series, by the way what can you say about the SW150 does it performs well? Im eyeing a 2nd SW150 from the B&S section. anyways I'll try to consider those prolinear subs and US audio subs...
thanks again sir...
Glad to help, bro. Sorry but I've never listened to the SW150. I think there's a thread here somewhere about it. I think you should consider the DTX and Prolinear subs. THe USAudio may be powerful but still response is irregular. ;)
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Glad to help, bro. Sorry but I've never listened to the SW150. I think there's a thread here somewhere about it. I think you should consider the DTX and Prolinear subs. THe USAudio may be powerful but still response is irregular. ;)
Thanks sir, ill look for the SW150 thread...
BTW is there several models of prolinear subs?
Thanks...
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Thanks sir, ill look for the SW150 thread...
BTW is there several models of prolinear subs?
Thanks...
Yup, I think there are a couple. But the one that I saw that had impressive looks was a 12-incher front-firing sub. The cone and the enclosure had a silver-gray color. I was impressed because the driver looked way better than the DTX 4.12's. The port was also located at the bottom of the sub. ;D
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Yup, I think there are a couple. But the one that I saw that had impressive looks was a 12-incher front-firing sub. The cone and the enclosure had a silver-gray color. I was impressed because the driver looked way better than the DTX 4.12's. The port was also located at the bottom of the sub. ;D
Thanks sir ill try to audition those PL subs this weekend...
sana may credible specs sa net about this PL subs...
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Hi guys...
I will soon part with my Daichi Sub. Nahihinaan ako sa bass ng Euros'8 na towers, paano kaya pwede para lumakas yun?
I removed the speakers and found that each speaker ay separated pala ng mdf board at puno ng fiberglass ang luob. Yung sa baba may 'port' ay puno ng fiberglass din, kung alisin ko iyun... makakatulong ba para lumakas ang bass or medyo titigas lang ?
Yung wires sa loob parang manipis pa sa gauge 16.
Appreciate your comments and advise... tia!
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Hi guys...
I will soon part with my Daichi Sub. Nahihinaan ako sa bass ng Euros'8 na towers, paano kaya pwede para lumakas yun?
I removed the speakers and found that each speaker ay separated pala ng mdf board at puno ng fiberglass ang luob. Yung sa baba may 'port' ay puno ng fiberglass din, kung alisin ko iyun... makakatulong ba para lumakas ang bass or medyo titigas lang ?
Yung wires sa loob parang manipis pa sa gauge 16.
Appreciate your comments and advise... tia!
Hi bro. What amp do you use anyway? There have been many occasions, especially at night that I listen to them without a sub and during those times I'd mistake my sub to be turned on when in fact they're not after I've checked again. ???
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maybe Lawin prefers his bass a lot stronger than you do arthur. or maybe your room is far different from his?
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Hi Bro arthurallanj!
I'm using yamaha 750. I'm selling my euro sub dahil baka makapagpabile ako velodyne CHT12R na sub sa UAE (mas mura kasi). Anyway, naninipisan ako sa bass ng Euros 8 towers ko, specially when I try to compare it dun sa ibang towers at Daichi Mega Mall showroom. Pag nilagay ko volume sa around -20db medyo malakas na tunog pero manipis pa rin bass (even with bass heavy music)
Maybe bro jojod818 is correct, I have a bigger room nasa sala kasi na around 4 x 9 meters. Distance nya from the wall ay around 1.5 feet.
Nag try kasi ako magplay ng walang sub.... bitin talaga, kaya gusto medyo lumakas sya. May epeckto ba speaker wires? I'm using shielded na wires (gamit namin sa mga computer installations, 3 pairs of gauge#14, tapos pinagsama-sama ko for + and - speaker connection).
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Well, your room is a bit bigger than mine. It has been mentioned in some other thread that the Euros 8's bass sounds better at the showroom but bought products were apparently less bassy. The later models daw were inferior to the older ones but, we may never know. Also try tinkering with your bass settings on your amp. Music has been reputed as Yamaha's weak point. :)
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need help!
Im about to change the driver of my DTX 4.15 subwoofer. if ever I would change the driver will it perform better. need anybody's advice....
TIA :)
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need help!
Im about to change the driver of my DTX 4.15 subwoofer. if ever I would change the driver will it perform better. need anybody's advice....
TIA :)
its gonna be a hit and miss thing if you do change the driver. good subsystems are usually designed the other way around meaning manufactuers/speaker makers etc design the box according to the specs of the driver.....what you are trying to do in this case is entirely the opposite which is finding a sub driver that will mate with the dimensions of your existing box. one miss and its gonna be costly.
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its gonna be a hit and miss thing if you do change the driver. good subsystems are usually designed the other way around meaning manufactuers/speaker makers etc design the box according to the specs of the driver.....what you are trying to do in this case is entirely the opposite which is finding a sub driver that will mate with the dimensions of your existing box. one miss and its gonna be costly.
thanks sir, sayang im opt to buy the JBL GTO series sub drivers pa naman, but the recommended box dimensions for that sub driver is closely to what my existing DTX box, pero yung mga mahirap mag gamble... hmm ano kayang better to do????
???
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how much is the JBL sub?
benta mo na lang ulit yun JBL driver pag hindi tumama sa dtx box mo. ;)
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how much is the JBL sub?
benta mo na lang ulit yun JBL driver pag hindi tumama sa dtx box mo. ;)
nasa 5k lang sir, yung size 15" mukhang sakto naman yung mounting screws at frame. just dont know kung mag fufunction siya ng maganda using the existing box and sub amp plate ng DTX...
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nasa 5k lang sir, yung size 15" mukhang sakto naman yung mounting screws at frame. just dont know kung mag fufunction siya ng maganda using the existing box and sub amp plate ng DTX...
Maybe I could help you decide. If you can give me the external dimensions of your DTX sub and port flow dimensions including its tube length, I could tell you if you're on the right track. ;) Dalawa kasi model ang pwedeng pagpilian niyan. Yung GTO or Power series. The worse thing na pwedeng mangyari kasi diyan is yung sub magkaroon ng frequency peak but it can be corrected into some extent like decreasing the port length or adding fiber fill. In my experience kasi sa subwoofer building.Di nagkakalayo ang box dimension recommendations ng bawat sub driver manufacturer. Ang paguusapan na lang niyan ay kung gaanong kababa yung frequency na kaya niyang iproduce. Almost all car subwoofer drivers stable sa 40Hz frequency more musical kasi ito. ;D ;)
Just my 2 cents.
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Maybe I could help you decide. If you can give me the external dimensions of your DTX sub and port flow dimensions including its tube length, I could tell you if you're on the right track. ;) Dalawa kasi model ang pwedeng pagpilian niyan. Yung GTO or Power series. The worse thing na pwedeng mangyari kasi diyan is yung sub magkaroon ng frequency peak but it can be corrected into some extent like decreasing the port length or adding fiber fill. In my experience kasi sa subwoofer building.Di nagkakalayo ang box dimension recommendations ng bawat sub driver manufacturer. Ang paguusapan na lang niyan ay kung gaanong kababa yung frequency na kaya niyang iproduce. Almost all car subwoofer drivers stable sa 40Hz frequency more musical kasi ito. ;D ;)
Just my 2 cents.
Thanks sir, hope you can help me, heres the DTX 4.15 BOX specs and dimension info:
Cabinet: MDF
Enclosure type: Front Firing Vented Box (4" flare port hole and 10" long)
Size: (H) 23.75" X (W) 18.25 X (D) 16.5
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC00058.jpg)
Thanks for your kind help sir...
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Thanks sir, hope you can help me, heres the DTX 4.15 BOX specs and dimension info:
Cabinet: MDF
Enclosure type: Front Firing Vented Box (4" flare port hole and 10" long)
Size: (H) 23.75" X (W) 18.25 X (D) 16.5
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC00058.jpg)
Thanks for your kind help sir...
Well, based on my software (bassbox pro)and on my first assumption, standard yung box dimensions niya for a 15" subwoofer driver. Maganda yung graph yung lumabas flat yung response niya pero cguro kung sa actual may kaunting descripancy because of inherent room modes pero over all ok. Existing box itself was tuned @ 28 Hz.. not bad.. ;) ;) basta 4 ohms (series connection ng voice coils ng driver ha... ;D ;D). Good luck.....
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Well, based on my software (bassbox pro)and on my first assumption, standard yung box dimensions niya for a 15" subwoofer driver. Maganda yung graph yung lumabas flat yung response niya pero cguro kung sa actual may kaunting descripancy because of inherent room modes pero over all ok. Existing box itself was tuned @ 28 Hz.. not bad.. ;) ;) basta 4 ohms (series connection ng voice coils ng driver ha... ;D ;D). Good luck.....
thanks you very very much sir your a really big help. ill go for the project "JBL" na... Salamat po ulit!
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nasa 5k lang sir, yung size 15" mukhang sakto naman yung mounting screws at frame. just dont know kung mag fufunction siya ng maganda using the existing box and sub amp plate ng DTX...
may point si Toqero, and I also agree. hindi ko pala pwede saluhin kasi 15", puro 12" ang meron ako box dito. ;D
go go go yan JBL project, please give us updates.
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actually ang habol ko lang talga, kaya ako mag papalit ng JBL subwoofer driver, is to produce a lower freq yung tipong lower than 40Hz and improved power handling. yung DTX driver kasi malakas naman siya, yung punch pag may explosion okey naman. kaya lang hindi siya ganun lower lalo na when I watched the movie "U571" ganda nung explosion pero parang hindi ganun ka bilog yung tunog parang malakas lang siya, kaya iba talga yung mga branded ones, anyways since hanggang pang upgrade lang ng driver ang kaya ko besides maganda din naman ang asthetics nung JBL GTO hehehe!
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so matigas siya tumunog? if you lower the cut-off freq baka mag bottom out na?
like Toquero, I was once obsessed with subs. But back then it was old school computation for the box then I build the most powerful amp I can and an active lpf and slap it on the box. ;D My experiments then showed that lower powered amps tend to clip more often during peaks and can fool us into hearing that the driver is bottoming out and is the one at fault when in fact the amp is. ;D
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so matigas siya tumunog? if you lower the cut-off freq baka mag bottom out na?
like Toquero, I was once obsessed with subs. But back then it was old school computation for the box then I build the most powerful amp I can and an active lpf and slap it on the box. ;D My experiments then showed that lower powered amps tend to clip more often during peaks and can fool us into hearing that the driver is bottoming out and is the one at fault when in fact the amp is. ;D
na inspire din kasi ako dun sa example ni sir toquero about dun sa DQ sub na tweak niya, pinalitan lang niya yung driver ng JBL nag okey na yung performance, same din nasa 300W din yun amp plate nun...
yung DTX hindi naman siya nag bobotom out, I just want a more punch and power, presently naka cut off yung DTX sa 50Hz tapos yung vol. nasa 1/8 lang para hindi boomy at hindi ma sapawan yung towers ko...
last time I auditioned a same 15" sub sa AVID (Def tech PF15TL) ang ganda ng lower freq niya. that time the featured program was "master and commander" galing nung explosion ng cannons. im just wondering kahit 1/4 lang nung ganun performance ma achive nung JBL sub na ipapalit ko, sana nga..... :)
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palagay ko gaganda nga yan, from Dai-Ichi to JBL switch mo. Baka mas ok yun driver na JBL and it's electrical properties. ;)
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palagay ko gaganda nga yan, from Dai-Ichi to JBL switch mo. Baka mas ok yun driver na JBL and it's electrical properties. ;)
thanks sir jojo,..
sana nga sir im crossing my fingers already hehehe!
(btw, medyo OT. ang ganda pala nung T-amp nung minatch ko sa sony na old school spekers ko na nasa 91db yung sensitivity. hanef! sa clarity, it is presently installed sa closed and airconditioned bed room hehehe!)
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balitaan mo ako ha, malapit na matapos yun amp ko eh. actually dapat tapos na kaso naisipan ko lagyan ng signal detecting auto on/off function kaya ayun. ;D
good job sa T-amp! oks yan basta oks din ang sensitivity ng speakers mo. enjoy!
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balitaan mo ako ha, malapit na matapos yun amp ko eh. actually dapat tapos na kaso naisipan ko lagyan ng signal detecting auto on/off function kaya ayun. ;D
good job sa T-amp! oks yan basta oks din ang sensitivity ng speakers mo. enjoy!
yes sir I will, thanks ulit :)
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pahabol hans, yun ba DTX sub mo naka flush-mount yun driver?
di ko makita kasi front-view yun pic. ;D type ko ganyan box - pogi.
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pahabol hans, yun ba DTX sub mo naka flush-mount yun driver?
di ko makita kasi front-view yun pic. ;D type ko ganyan box - pogi.
Sir jo,
hindi sya naka flush mount, surface mount lang yung typical na subwoofer box....
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thanks!
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Sir natuloy ba yung pagpalit mo ng driver?
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Sir natuloy ba yung pagpalit mo ng driver?
still seeking for JBL GTO 15" wala kasi sa mga car shops eh. meron sila GTO 12" lang bitin yun. dati kasi nung nag inquire ako sabi meron sila nung bibili na ako biglang sabi out of stock na... tsk! nakaka dissapoint nga eh. anyways masaya pa naman ako sa existing stock DTX 15" sub driver eh...
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sige sir, pag punta ko mamaya dun magtatanong ako baka makakita ako ng hinahanap nyo... Pareserve ko nalang kung sakali makakita ako then advice ko kaagad sayo...
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sige sir, pag punta ko mamaya dun magtatanong ako baka makakita ako ng hinahanap nyo... Pareserve ko nalang kung sakali makakita ako then advice ko kaagad sayo...
oks thanks
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oks thanks
no problem bro... ;D
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Got my DTX 4.12 yesterday at megamall... Out of stock na daw kasi yung DTX 4.15 nila kaya ito nalang kinuha ko, so far so good naman sya... ano ba magandang subwoofer cable para dito?
Paano ko set up yung crossover frequency, volume level and phase nya?
Thanks sir hattori_hanzo for your help...
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Got my DTX 4.12 yesterday at megamall... Out of stock na daw kasi yung DTX 4.15 nila kaya ito nalang kinuha ko, so far so good naman sya... ano ba magandang subwoofer cable para dito?
Paano ko set up yung crossover frequency, volume level and phase nya?
Thanks sir hattori_hanzo for your help...
oks ;)....
my cable was custom made by soundimesion in makati. it cost me 800, 5meters...
about dun naman sa set-up ng DTX sub-amp. depende sa fronts mo kung hanggang saan yung lowest freq niya pero kung naka bookshelfs ka, automatic dapat naka small ang setting ng AVR fronts mo. so low freq below 90Hz will be assigned or re-directed sa sub. since yung set up ko naka towers kasi ako na euros 8, so ang ginawa ko para hindi siya ma overpower ng DTX subwoofer. I set my cross over freq to 50Hz coz my towers can go as low as 50Hz. so yung ang meeting point niya. so ang assignment is 50hz below sa sub and 50Hz above sa towers. I set my AVR fronts to large but my center & surrounds to small. them my sub's volume is set to 1/8 kasi meron volume set up yung Yamaha AVR ko. so then I can custom trim the loudness of the sub. ;)
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oks ;)....
my cable was custom made by soundimesion in makati. it cost me 800, 5meters...
about dun naman sa set-up ng DTX sub-amp. depende sa fronts mo kung hanggang saan yung lowest freq niya pero kung naka bookshelfs ka, automatic dapat naka small ang setting ng AVR fronts mo. so low freq below 90Hz will be assigned or re-directed sa sub. since yung set up ko naka towers kasi ako na euros 8, so ang ginawa ko para hindi siya ma overpower ng DTX subwoofer. I set my cross over freq to 50Hz coz my towers can go as low as 50Hz. so yung ang meeting point niya. so ang assignment is 50hz below sa sub and 50Hz above sa towers. I set my AVR fronts to large but my center & surrounds to small. them my sub's volume is set to 1/8 kasi meron volume set up yung Yamaha AVR ko. so then I can custom trim the loudness of the sub. ;)
Thanks sir punta nalang ako sa sound and dimension
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Well, based on my software (bassbox pro)and on my first assumption, standard yung box dimensions niya for a 15" subwoofer driver. Maganda yung graph yung lumabas flat yung response niya pero cguro kung sa actual may kaunting descripancy because of inherent room modes pero over all ok. Existing box itself was tuned @ 28 Hz.. not bad.. ;) ;) basta 4 ohms (series connection ng voice coils ng driver ha... ;D ;D). Good luck.....
sir toquero, finally found a JBL GTO kaya lang model 1502 diba 4ohms yun (series connected) i was looking for the 1504 model kaso wala daw available nun locally. the cost of the 1502 is 4,3k mall price kasi...
sir tanong ko lang kaya kaya ng existing sub amp plate ng DTX 4.15 yung JBL GTO 1502 kahit 4 ohms yun? kasi eto yung specs nung DTX 4.15 sub:
cabinet: Medium density fiber board contruction (MDF)
enclosure type: front firing vented box
finish: woodgrain vinyl
driver component: 15"
impedance: 4-8 ohms
power handling: 300 watts
freq range: 40hz - 220hz
variable cut-off freq. control: 50hz - 180hz
input sensitivity (low input): 100mV rms max.
speaker level input: 2.5v rms max.
power source: 220 vac
sir kakayanin kaya ng amp plate yung JBL GTO 1502? hindi kaya iinit ng husto ito? baka kasi masira yung amp plate eh... :-\
thanks!
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sir jojoD,
question lang po,
sir kakayanin kaya ng DTX 4.15 amp plate yung JBL GTO 1502? hindi kaya iinit ng husto ito? baka kasi masira yung amp plate eh sayang, nasa 4 ohms kasi yung JBL ...
thanks for you help sir...
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hans,
take it easy at first while you keep on observing your dtx amp. is the original DTX driver 8 ohms? if not then there shouldn't be that much to worry about.
besides, the DTX is a ported design so driver power requirements can be kept low.
Picture!
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hans,
take it easy at first while you keep on observing your dtx amp. is the original DTX driver 8 ohms? if not then there shouldn't be that much to worry about.
besides, the DTX is a ported design so driver power requirements can be kept low.
Picture!
sir naka lagay lang sa specs 4-8 ohms. pero dun sa mismong likod sa magnet ng speaker walang nakalagay. so hindi ko alam kung ano ang impedance.
ill try to post some picture soon...
thanks sir..
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sir naka lagay lang sa specs 4-8 ohms. pero dun sa mismong likod sa magnet ng speaker walang nakalagay. so hindi ko alam kung ano ang impedance.
ill try to post some picture soon...
thanks sir..
Bro, I think it's 4 ohms imprdance yan. If u have a multimeter masusukat mo yung free air impedance niya . Kasi kung 6 or 8 ohms iyan, and for a commercial sub at that price range , di niya mapapatunog ng malakas iyan. The manufacturer would require him to invest more on power amp which is costly sa over all project. And to think of it kung ang solution pala ay gumamit ng mas mataas na sensitivity drivers like jbl and the like eh di sna ginawa nang ibang subwoofer manufacturer iyan. Pero kasi may patent issue kasi iyang mga branded subwoofers kung gamitin mo siya as raw material for commercial sub resulting to a much higher market cost. ;)
I maybe wrong but just my 2 cents. ;)
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Bro, I think it's 4 ohms imprdance yan. If u have a multimeter masusukat mo yung free air impedance niya . Kasi kung 6 or 8 ohms iyan, and for a commercial sub at that price range , di niya mapapatunog ng malakas iyan. The manufacturer would require him to invest more on power amp which is costly sa over all project. And to think of it kung ang solution pala ay gumamit ng mas mataas na sensitivity drivers like jbl and the like eh di sna ginawa nang ibang subwoofer manufacturer iyan. Pero kasi may patent issue kasi iyang mga branded subwoofers kung gamitin mo siya as raw material for commercial sub resulting to a much higher market cost. ;)
I maybe wrong but just my 2 cents. ;)
thanks sir toquero,
mga sir ano kaya, hindi kaya madadamage yung amp plate nung DTX or baka uminit ng husto,
kasi according to sir jojoD's medyo obserbahan ko, ayaw ko kasi masayang yung money ko, kasi yung available lang talga na JBL GTO na 15" is model 1502 na pag naka series yung connection ng poles is rated at 4ohms. sa expirience niyo sir toquero sa tweaked DQ12 anong outcome? okey lang ba? yung JBL 1502 cost 4,3k sa mall and ang ganda naman talga ng asthetics. kaya na eenganyo talga ako mag tweaked, pero yun nga ang inaalala ko yung electrical properties baka hindi mag match yung amp sa JBL sub... please feed me more information regarding on this mga sir's...
thank you very much for your really good help!!! sir jojoD and sir toquero...
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hans,
are you saying that the JBL has dual voice coils? sabi mo kasi pag naka series 4 ohms. pag naka parallel yan eh di 1 ohm na lang? oks yan dun sa 1KW mosfet amp ko dati, stable at 1 ohm! :o
if that is really a JBL by JBL, I think it wouldn't be that hard to drive so your amp would be safe. But just the same, if I were in your position, I will observe by touching (from time to time) the heatsink or the plate of your DTX sub. try it, hindi naman basta-basta masisira yun plateamp mo dyan bro.
btw, nakita mo na ba yun Phaser na sub sa Deeco? sino kaya naka-try na nun. Ikaw Toquero, have you tried one?
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hans,
are you saying that the JBL has dual voice coils? sabi mo kasi pag naka series 4 ohms. pag naka parallel yan eh di 1 ohm na lang? oks yan dun sa 1KW mosfet amp ko dati, stable at 1 ohm! :o
if that is really a JBL by JBL, I think it wouldn't be that hard to drive so your amp would be safe. But just the same, if I were in your position, I will observe by touching (from time to time) the heatsink or the plate of your DTX sub. try it, hindi naman basta-basta masisira yun plateamp mo dyan bro.
btw, nakita mo na ba yun Phaser na sub sa Deeco? sino kaya naka-try na nun. Ikaw Toquero, have you tried one?
thanks sir jo,
yup sir dual voice coil siya 2 ohms / pole. JBL GTO yung model niya 1502 pang auto, color orange yung box. nakakatakot kasi baka masayang yung amp plate pagnasira eh mahal pa naman ang amp plate sayo, kaya sinusure ko muna hehehe!...
right now when im using the sub with existing DTX subdriver average lang naman yung init niya. sana kung palitan ko na ng JBL, okey pa rin saka sana gumanda pa yung performance...
sir ive seen the phaser and auditioned it yung 15", kaya lang parang hindi ganun ka ganda yung performance parang typical na woofer lang ang tunog. parang sagana lang sa laki yung magnet saka porma eh...
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Hahaha! Hindi naman ganun kadali masisira yan, kahit na mas mababa pa ang impedance niya if ever. Tama ka, i-series mo nga yun dalawang voice coil then testing time na. ;)
palagay ko mas gaganda pa yan using the JBL.
ganun? hindi ko kasi audition yun sub na yun. ;D
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Hahaha! Hindi naman ganun kadali masisira yan, kahit na mas mababa pa ang impedance niya if ever. Tama ka, i-series mo nga yun dalawang voice coil then testing time na. ;)
palagay ko mas gaganda pa yan using the JBL.
ganun? hindi ko kasi audition yun sub na yun. ;D
sana nga sir gumanda pa yung tunog saka kayanin nung amp... ;D ;D ;D
btw sir meron pang ibang brand na nagkalat dun eh yung altec ang brand niya mas maganda tunog kaysa sa phaser. ang hitsura niya parang alpine na subwoofer puro silver lang yung cone saka hindi visible yung dust cap. meron din sila hugis square...
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hhmmm... dapat mabenta ko na mga Targa sub ko para makasubok na ng iba. ;D ;D
lakasan mo ang loob mo, kakayanin ng amp mo yan. ;)
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hhmmm... dapat mabenta ko na mga Targa sub ko para makasubok na ng iba. ;D ;D
lakasan mo ang loob mo, kakayanin ng amp mo yan. ;)
thanks sir...
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hhmmm... dapat mabenta ko na mga Targa sub ko para makasubok na ng iba. ;D ;D
lakasan mo ang loob mo, kakayanin ng amp mo yan. ;)
cge sir, benta mo na yan sub mo.. ako na lang bibili, basta presyong kaibigan lang ha ;D ;D ;D
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thanks sir toquero,
mga sir ano kaya, hindi kaya madadamage yung amp plate nung DTX or baka uminit ng husto,
kasi according to sir jojoD's medyo obserbahan ko, ayaw ko kasi masayang yung money ko, kasi yung available lang talga na JBL GTO na 15" is model 1502 na pag naka series yung connection ng poles is rated at 4ohms. sa expirience niyo sir toquero sa tweaked DQ12 anong outcome? okey lang ba? yung JBL 1502 cost 4,3k sa mall and ang ganda naman talga ng asthetics. kaya na eenganyo talga ako mag tweaked, pero yun nga ang inaalala ko yung electrical properties baka hindi mag match yung amp sa JBL sub... please feed me more information regarding on this mga sir's...
thank you very much for your really good help!!! sir jojoD and sir toquero...
Sorry for the late reply... Actually yung 12" driver na ikinabit ko sa dynaquest is GTO1202D 2 ohm per voice coil and 4 ohms in series. Basta series mo siya ok yan. Maganda kasi ang dual voice coil mas controlled niya ang subwoofer driver and hindi siya gaanong mapupuwersa ng anp to drive it in high volume... I'm optimistic ok ang magiging result niyan... ;) ;)
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Sorry for the late reply... Actually yung 12" driver na ikinabit ko sa dynaquest is GTO1202D 2 ohm per voice coil and 4 ohms in series. Basta series mo siya ok yan. Maganda kasi ang dual voice coil mas controlled niya ang subwoofer driver and hindi siya gaanong mapupuwersa ng anp to drive it in high volume... I'm optimistic ok ang magiging result niyan... ;) ;)
thanks sir sana nga smooth ang lahat, maganda naman kasi yung JBL at least hindi compromise katulad nung stock DTX driver...
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thanks sir sana nga smooth ang lahat, maganda naman kasi yung JBL at least hindi compromise katulad nung stock DTX driver...
bro, good luck dyan sa bagong project mo.. I hope nakakuha ka na ng driver ;D
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thanks...
check out the JBL GTO 1502 im eyeing this to replace the DTX stock sub driver...
ibang kalase ang motor structure niya
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/gto1202d_sida45_s.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/gto1202d_sida_s.jpg)
if you see clearly yung spider surround suspension niya naka angat. saka parang mababaw ang cone structure niya hindi katulad ng mga typical na subwoofer cones na malalim...
meron kayang good effect ang ganitong design?...
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meron ba 12 inch niyan hans? where and how much kaya?
yun spider naka angat yan to facilitate longer Xmax, yun rubber surround niya parang maliit yun diameter?
any links to definitive specs re that sub?
thanks
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Mukang ok yan sir hanns... Mukang tweak ko agad yung 4.12 ko ah... Bakit nga pala sa 4.12 ko 6ohms ang naka lagay sa box specs?
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meron ba 12 inch niyan hans? where and how much kaya?
yun spider naka angat yan to facilitate longer Xmax, yun rubber surround niya parang maliit yun diameter?
any links to definitive specs re that sub?
thanks
yup sir jo, meron silang 12" nito JBL GTO 1202D (2ohm/vc) saka 1204D (4ohm/vc), ang available yata sa atin yung 1202D nasa 3k sa mall...
specs can be found on www.jbl.com
heres a sample of JBL GTO 12" 1204 in a BP enclosure:
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/GTO1204BP.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/jbldualbp.jpg)
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Mukang ok yan sir hanns... Mukang tweak ko agad yung 4.12 ko ah... Bakit nga pala sa 4.12 ko 6ohms ang naka lagay sa box specs?
it might be the rated impedance ng 12" subwoofer...
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sir jojoD,
question, meron bang difference ang much shallower na cone in terms of performance, compared sa mga standard cone depthness?
thanks...
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hans,
before, a shallow cone means less air volume that is moved due to the less surface area that the cone has when compared to deeper cone types. nowadays, shallower cones are not a problem anymore since Xmax has been dramatically increased. besides, shallow cones are needed to facilitate installation of improved spider suspension.
I am dreaming of a 4th order bp with a 1202D. ::)
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hans,
before, a shallow cone means less air volume that is moved due to the less surface area that the cone has when compared to deeper cone types. nowadays, shallower cones are not a problem anymore since Xmax has been dramatically increased. besides, shallow cones are needed to facilitate installation of improved spider suspension.
I am dreaming of a 4th order bp with a 1202D. ::)
sir jo,
thanks for the info...
yup sir ganda nga ng JBL 1202 bandpass....anyways kaya mo yan sir jo, ikaw pa hehehe! mura naman yung JBL 1202, 3k lang....
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hans,
post ko muna sa buy and sell yun mga Targa and Cyclone sub ko dito sa bahay. nagagalit na si misis sa dami ng sub na hindi naman daw nagagamit. :-\
kung sa mall yan eh di pwede madinig muna right? teka san mall ba? wala ba sa banawe niyan baka mas mura?
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hans,
post ko muna sa buy and sell yun mga Targa and Cyclone sub ko dito sa bahay. nagagalit na si misis sa dami ng sub na hindi naman daw nagagamit. :-\
kung sa mall yan eh di pwede madinig muna right? teka san mall ba? wala ba sa banawe niyan baka mas mura?
nagagalit naba hehe! cigurado ako may bibili kaagad nyan cyclone subs mo sir...
btw yung jbl 1202 mabibili mo sa megmall ang pangalan ng store is autosport nasa 3rd floor may mga nakadisplay na momo mags saka steering wheel, malapit sila sa sinehan, ang kaharap niya is yung circuit city, baka nga sir mas mura sa banawe kasi mall price na yung 3k eh...
eto yung picture ng sub (pics courtesy of my cp hehe!)...
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/03012005.jpg)
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oo nagagalit na. :o something like in these lines...
bibili ka hindi mo naman pinapatunog. >:( tapos ngayon bibili ka na naman! tumigil ka na nga sa kaka-internet mo, kung ano-ano lang pumapasok sa isip mo na bilhin wala ka naman paglalagyan!
baka bukas nasa internet cafe na ako, hindi mapigilan. ;D ;D ;D
ang pogi niyan hans, parang gusto ko tuloy sealed enclosure and without grills. 8) yun katabi nun 1202D mukhang jbl din :o
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hans,
post ko muna sa buy and sell yun mga Targa and Cyclone sub ko dito sa bahay. nagagalit na si misis sa dami ng sub na hindi naman daw nagagamit. :-\
kung sa mall yan eh di pwede madinig muna right? teka san mall ba? wala ba sa banawe niyan baka mas mura?
sige sir jojo, post mo na yang sub... para hindi na ko mahirapan maghanap ;D ;D
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oo nagagalit na. :o something like in these lines...
bibili ka hindi mo naman pinapatunog. >:( tapos ngayon bibili ka na naman! tumigil ka na nga sa kaka-internet mo, kung ano-ano lang pumapasok sa isip mo na bilhin wala ka naman paglalagyan!
baka bukas nasa internet cafe na ako, hindi mapigilan. ;D ;D ;D
ang pogi niyan hans, parang gusto ko tuloy sealed enclosure and without grills. 8) yun katabi nun 1202D mukhang jbl din :o
hehehe!!!!
yup JBL din...
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nagagalit naba hehe! cigurado ako may bibili kaagad nyan cyclone subs mo sir...
btw yung jbl 1202 mabibili mo sa megmall ang pangalan ng store is autosport nasa 3rd floor may mga nakadisplay na momo mags saka steering wheel, malapit sila sa sinehan, ang kaharap niya is yung circuit city, baka nga sir mas mura sa banawe kasi mall price na yung 3k eh...
eto yung picture ng sub (pics courtesy of my cp hehe!)...
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/03012005.jpg)
You can try to look for sol (girl sya with eyeglasses) baka makahingi kayo discount,just tell them suki kayo ni helen ng perfect circle(branch nila sa banawe) :)
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You can try to look for sol (girl sya with eyeglasses) baka makahingi kayo discount,just tell them suki kayo ni helen ng perfect circle(branch nila sa banawe) :)
thanks for the tip sir ricky, will do that...
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ricky na lang bro :) and also another guy you can bug is ashley of audible illusions ,connected sya sa one of the biggest car acc shop sa banawe yung GINZA ;)
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ricky,
thanks for the tip. ;D
brian,
ilalabas ko na bukas para malinis na, almost 2 years din yun sa taguan.
hans,
sa picture mo yun katabi ng 1202D which looks like a 10" parang mas type ko yun surrounds. it looks thicker, which can provide longer excursions. :)
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Mga Sir, saan kaya nakakabili ng clear acrylic board mga 3/4" or 1" thick?
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tgnan mo sa yellow pages.
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mahal yata ung 3/4 or 1 thick na acrylic. tsaka walng cut size na nbibili yata nun panay 48x96.
bumili kme dati ng acrylic or fiberglass ata un. 1/4" 10k isang buo so if aadad mu un mga mor or less 30k sa 3/4"
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hans,
sa picture mo yun katabi ng 1202D which looks like a 10" parang mas type ko yun surrounds. it looks thicker, which can provide longer excursions. :)
yup sir mas maganda nga yun kaya lang mas mahal yata, saka 1000watts 10" palang yung 15" nasa 2kw or 5kw yata yun not sure hehehe! ;)
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yup sir mas maganda nga yun kaya lang mas mahal yata, saka 1000watts 10" palang yung 15" nasa 2kw or 5kw yata yun not sure hehehe! ;)
ay patay, matindi pala yun. pero yun ang ok kung bayo-bayo ang habol mo. yun pag may sumabog ang akala mo lumilindol din. ;D ;D
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Mga Sir, saan kaya nakakabili ng clear acrylic board mga 3/4" or 1" thick?
para san mo gagamitin yan bro?
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para san mo gagamitin yan bro?
malamang sir jo, gagamitin ni sir odyopayl yan for face plate ng subwoofer box... ;D ;D ;D katulad nung nasa bandpass ng JBL box, ang ganda eh...
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malamang sir jo, gagamitin ni sir odyopayl yan for face plate ng subwoofer box... ;D ;D ;D katulad nung nasa bandpass ng JBL box, ang ganda eh...
ah ok. when I was an avid observer of those car audio setup afficionados, they use 2 layers of 0.5" acrylic sheets which are bolted together.
tama ka hans at maganda nga siya pag naka clear side yun sub box. pero for me oks na ako sa all wood, but hey, that's just me. :)
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jojo, hans,
ok ba yung buong box ng sub mo eh naka clear acrylic board .. may improvement ba sa SQ
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jojo, hans,
ok ba yung buong box ng sub mo eh naka clear acrylic board .. may improvement ba sa SQ
dude ang mahal ng aabutin ng cost of materials mo, pag yun ang ginamit mo. besides mahirap din puro acrylic kasi brittle yun pag bumagsak its either basag or may crack.
sa PC case nga na all acylic cost 4k already manipis pa yun. I think yung 3/4 thick would cost you 10k or more. then ang hirap pa ng assembly nun.
si jo,
if I would choose what material to use for a subwoofer box. I'll be using 3/4 solid stainless steel metal sheets or kaya carbon fiber coated 3/4 aluminum metal sheets para maga-ang yet rigid and strong :o :o :o hehehe! ang mahal ciguro nun, but its just me though ;D ;D ;D
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Mga Sir, saan kaya nakakabili ng clear acrylic board mga 3/4" or 1" thick?
sir you can try asking sa mga plastic sign maker kung gusto mo ng cut-size, although i am not sure kung may 3/4 or 1" thick sila.
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si jo,
if I would choose what material to use for a subwoofer box. I'll be using 3/4 solid stainless steel metal sheets or kaya carbon fiber coated 3/4 aluminum metal sheets para maga-ang yet rigid and strong :o :o :o hehehe! ang mahal ciguro nun, but its just me though ;D ;D ;D
yun sir ginagamit na material sa Formula 1 at sa Space Shuttle Program ang kamukha niyan sinasabi mo. ;D ;D ;D
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Mga Sir, saan kaya nakakabili ng clear acrylic board mga 3/4" or 1" thick?
Try mo si KillerMike.
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very hilarious din tong kapitbahay ko, isipin mo napagkamalan na nonood ako ng HT ngayon gabi, hindi niya alam totoong kulog yung narinig niya hehehe! nung nalaman niyang totoong kulog pala biglang uwi eh hehehe!... ;D ;D ;D
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very hilarious din tong kapitbahay ko, isipin mo napagkamalan na nonood ako ng HT ngayon gabi, hindi niya alam totoong kulog yung narinig niya hehehe! nung nalaman niyang totoong kulog pala biglang uwi eh hehehe!... ;D ;D ;D
siguro kung Jurrasic Park pinapanood mo baka hindi lang biglang uwi ang gawin. ;D ;D ;D
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siguro kung Jurrasic Park pinapanood mo baka hindi lang biglang uwi ang gawin. ;D ;D ;D
hehehe! minsan nga napagkamalan nag aaway kami dito sa bahay eh! hahaha! ;D ;D ;D
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hehehe! minsan nga napagkamalan nag aaway kami dito sa bahay eh! hahaha! ;D ;D ;D
bro, wala pa bang nang-aaway na kapitbahay mo... . kasi sa akin may sumisita na though hindi naman directly sa akin sinabi kundi sa yaya ng mga kids ko .. :(
paano pa kaya kung may SUB na ako ;) ;)
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bro, wala pa bang nang-aaway na kapitbahay mo... . kasi sa akin may sumisita na though hindi naman directly sa akin sinabi kundi sa yaya ng mga kids ko .. :(
paano pa kaya kung may SUB na ako ;) ;)
actually may nag reklamo na, nung nag pa sounds ako, particularly yung cut na "pump up the volume" by MARRS. yung glass windows nila nag lalangit-ngit daw... ;D ;D ;D
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ei guyz eto price ng acrylic direct from the supplier. no cut sizes.
4'x6'
1" thick 20,201.40 php
1/2" thick 7,654.40
1/4" thick 3393.90
Comglasco AG
(02)894-3823
Tsaka eto about sa speaker ng daiichi.
meron ako npansin sa speaker nila bakit kya ibaiba itsura pero same model. anu bato hand made. hehehe.
for example.
ung size ng bakal surrounding the woofer ung isa malaki ung bkal ung isa maliit.
ung sa terminal iba iba ung design same model naman. mern maliit ung isa ung isa naman parehas maliit.
ung naman kulay ng bakal isa black ung isa walang paint.
bakit kaya ganito?
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ei guyz eto price ng acrylic direct from the supplier. no cut sizes.
4'x6'
1" thick 20,201.40 php
1/2" thick 7,654.40
1/4" thick 3393.90
Comglasco AG
(02)894-3823
ang mahal! parang presyo na ng subwoofer...
Tsaka eto about sa speaker ng daiichi.
meron ako npansin sa speaker nila bakit kya ibaiba itsura pero same model. anu bato hand made. hehehe.
for example.
ung size ng bakal surrounding the woofer ung isa malaki ung bkal ung isa maliit.
ung sa terminal iba iba ung design same model naman. mern maliit ung isa ung isa naman parehas maliit.
ung naman kulay ng bakal isa black ung isa walang paint.
bakit kaya ganito?
aba kailangan ma ireport yan, inconsistent. eh diba accredited sila ng ISO para sa product standard?
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Tsaka eto about sa speaker ng daiichi.
meron ako npansin sa speaker nila bakit kya ibaiba itsura pero same model. anu bato hand made. hehehe.
for example.
ung size ng bakal surrounding the woofer ung isa malaki ung bkal ung isa maliit.
ung sa terminal iba iba ung design same model naman. mern maliit ung isa ung isa naman parehas maliit.
ung naman kulay ng bakal isa black ung isa walang paint.
bakit kaya ganito?
I once asked them about those inconsistencies. One major factor daw is the suppliers. They say, they often have to keep production up even though some components are unavailable, and they are forced to replace it with similar ones. A particular speaker system bought a year ago may not be exactly the same with one that is bought this year. Some are modifications to also improve cost-effectiveness or performance. You could also contact them about it especially if these inconsistencies are present on the pair you bought. My DTX 9.5 towers has a thicker cloth grill than my friend's who bought it later than I did, then mine has grill attachment holes at the back, his doesn't. I think okay lang naman if the pair you bought is consistent, ang masama is if within the pair, one is different from the other. :P
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ung binili kong woofer, binile ko sila lahat same time. pero unique silang lhat. i dont like to bother calling them sayang oras.
dbale ok lng khit iba. importante is ung sq parehas.
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ung binili kong woofer, binile ko sila lahat same time. pero unique silang lhat. i dont like to bother calling them sayang oras.
dbale ok lng khit iba. importante is ung sq parehas.
Did you buy from an authorized dealer? I've always suggested to friends here at PDVD to buy Daiichi products from Mike of Moses Aaron because I've always had a good experience with him and he goes the extra mile for service. He's not the usual salesman na basta makabenta lang, he makes sure that you're satisfied. Better luck next time, bro. ;)
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Share ko lang experience ko sa Daiichi speakers I had way way back. First set-up ko was all Daiichi, 5.1. Yung center na binili ko pinasok ng magnet yung 34' TV ko, sabi nila magnetically shielded daw. their technician went to the house for 3-4 times to study what happened. Fortunately, ang lawyer nila ay kapitbahay ko so I was given more attention. For what happened, they gave me a sub asw-10 as a gesture of apology na hanggang ngayon nasa akin pa except for the main speakers. So feeling ko sa bahay ko na-solve ang problema nila.
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about dun sa ibat iba speakers with same models...
kaya ciguro meron laging nakalagay sa products nila na: "subject to change without prior notice" ;D ;D ;D
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baka "batteries not included"? :P
;D ;D ;D
ang experience ko sa Dai-Ichi speakers ay napaka-panget! pero matapos ang ilang buwan na hatawan at bugbugan ay gumaganda na siya. sa umpisa kasi parang napaka tigas ng mga surrounds at spider, pero pag bugbog na umaayos din naman ang tunog. ;D
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arthurallanj
sa mega ko ung dalawa binile.
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The case of the old stock and new stock purchase..... hehe. Na timing ka lang bro na you got one from an older stock and another from a newer stock. You should make a complaint though, I think, even though these are entry level items, I'm sure you've worked hard for your money and should get what you've paid for. But it's up to you bro, it may be inconvenient to you. Some may not think it's worth the effort, some may. But this is how changes are made, right? Ingat, bro. ;)
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MGA SIR ASK KO LNG PO... BAGO P LNG PO KC AKO WITH THIS HOBBY AND BAGONG KASAL DIN AKO AT THE SAME TYM... LAMO NA MEJO MAGASTOS, E SINCE ADIK NMAN TLGA KO SA HOMe theater, i still pursued on buying my ht set... ang first kong binili is a generic brand ng sub wuth 5.1 speakers w/c at the end nagsisis ako kc ampanget tlga ng tunog and d sha decoded... so i bought a semi decent receiver para decoded nman ung tunog. tapos ung dati kong mga speakers from my crappy 5.1 ang kinabit ko dun... eventually, i noticed na pumapalakpak na ung mga front kc 10 watts lng pala un... (actually sinisira ko rin para payagan na ko bumili ni misis) so im planning to buy new set of speakers... but my dad told me na sayang nman daw ung baffles ng speaker ko dati kc wood din in fairness... galing akong raon kanina & i checked ung mga 4 inches na mga dai-ichi na replacement ko sana dun sa dati... advisable po ba un? wala kc kong friend na kaparehas ko ng hobby so tatanong lang po ako sa inyo mga kuya... penge pong tips... thanks po ;)
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eventually, i noticed na pumapalakpak na ung mga front kc 10 watts lng pala un...
The sound quality (SQ) of a speaker has nothing to do with the speaker power rating, the power rating (10 watts on yours) just tells you how much power the speaker can take without burning. It has nothing to do, too, with how loud your system would sound (SPL).
BTW, how much is your budget? Wharfedales are very affordable and sounds good. What AV receiver are you using?
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MGA SIR ASK KO LNG PO... BAGO P LNG PO KC AKO WITH THIS HOBBY AND BAGONG KASAL DIN AKO AT THE SAME TYM... LAMO NA MEJO MAGASTOS, E SINCE ADIK NMAN TLGA KO SA HOMe theater, i still pursued on buying my ht set... ang first kong binili is a generic brand ng sub wuth 5.1 speakers w/c at the end nagsisis ako kc ampanget tlga ng tunog and d sha decoded... so i bought a semi decent receiver para decoded nman ung tunog. tapos ung dati kong mga speakers from my crappy 5.1 ang kinabit ko dun... eventually, i noticed na pumapalakpak na ung mga front kc 10 watts lng pala un... (actually sinisira ko rin para payagan na ko bumili ni misis) so im planning to buy new set of speakers... but my dad told me na sayang nman daw ung baffles ng speaker ko dati kc wood din in fairness... galing akong raon kanina & i checked ung mga 4 inches na mga dai-ichi na replacement ko sana dun sa dati... advisable po ba un? wala kc kong friend na kaparehas ko ng hobby so tatanong lang po ako sa inyo mga kuya... penge pong tips... thanks po ;)
Hi sir, first of all welcome to the Club! :)
First of all if ever sir baka pwede ka mag post ng budget para mas matulungan ka namen. now, in regards with your speakers, frankly speaking, IMO, wag mo na pansinin ung baffles mo dati kasi kung papalitan mo lang ung mga speakers e, baka mag karoon ka lang ng mis match sa speakers and crossovers na baka mas lalo ka pang mapagastos, and kun di naman e baka mas lalo kang maasar kasi mas pangit pa pala ung tunog. try your search talaga with a new set of speakers, alexg has a good point on the wharfedales, mura and maganda ang tunog, but that would still depend on your budget. start with a good set of fronts and center where your going to be happy and that your budget allows, huli na ung surround.
ano nga pala ung reciever m sir? how big will be your room? and how loud do you plan to listen? and agen how much is ur budget po? :)
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MGA SIR ASK KO LNG PO... BAGO P LNG PO KC AKO WITH THIS HOBBY AND BAGONG KASAL DIN AKO AT THE SAME TYM... LAMO NA MEJO MAGASTOS, E SINCE ADIK NMAN TLGA KO SA HOMe theater, i still pursued on buying my ht set... ang first kong binili is a generic brand ng sub wuth 5.1 speakers w/c at the end nagsisis ako kc ampanget tlga ng tunog and d sha decoded... so i bought a semi decent receiver para decoded nman ung tunog. tapos ung dati kong mga speakers from my crappy 5.1 ang kinabit ko dun... eventually, i noticed na pumapalakpak na ung mga front kc 10 watts lng pala un... (actually sinisira ko rin para payagan na ko bumili ni misis) so im planning to buy new set of speakers... but my dad told me na sayang nman daw ung baffles ng speaker ko dati kc wood din in fairness... galing akong raon kanina & i checked ung mga 4 inches na mga dai-ichi na replacement ko sana dun sa dati... advisable po ba un? wala kc kong friend na kaparehas ko ng hobby so tatanong lang po ako sa inyo mga kuya... penge pong tips... thanks po ;)
Hi, bro, congrats on the marriage thing and welcome to the club. I've learned the hard way when I decided to get into this hobby, never had too many friends who were into this thing then, and I never found out yet about PinoyDVD then too, which would have saved me a lot of money, trouble and time. First, I've learned that there are some things that just can't be compromised. Everything about your system has to be decent, at least, for you to be satisfied. I suggest, getting speakers that would fit your budget but speakers that are decent. Speakers that are made by reputable speaker manufacturers, not speakers that are made by anybody like some unknown chinese brand. Now the lowest priced speakesr I know of that are pretty decent are from Konzert, then Daiichis, then Wharfedales. That's from lowest to not so low. ;D Now, this hobby is gonna require a lot of patience, some money, and some time. You have to arm yourself with a lot of knowledge for you to make the right decisions that would be right for you, too. PionyDVD is certainly a venue that would be a big help. For the smallest budgets, HTIBs or Home Theater in a Box, would be most feasible. Separates would perform better and would give you more options, but, of course, cost a little bit more. Analog systems are less expensive than system that use digital amps or receivers, then so on and so forth.... My rule of thumb has always been, and it has guided me well, "buy the best technology/equipment that you can afford". There are more answers that can be found here at PDVD to more questions that you have and will have as you get into this hobby more and more, I'm sure the guys here at PDVD will be happy to help. Good luck. ;)
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up ko na rin to.. help namn po.. im planning on buying a sub woofer.. either a dtx4.12 or 4.15 sa mga gumagamit, bka po pwdng mkiusap na malaman ang dimension nya.. tingnan ko lng kung fit sa paglalagyan.. thanks!
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I have good experience with Daiichi loudspeakers. Kailangan lang ng break in. They manufacture/or use to manufacture products for KEF, Celestion, Klipsch, Cerwin Vega and so on. Check their website:http://www.daiichi.ph/aboutus.htm (http://www.daiichi.ph/aboutus.htm)
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What's the current price of DTX 4.12/4.15 right now and where? Or are they still available? I went to Dai-Ichi megamall last Jan 7 and they don't have it on display.
I've read a few pages back that there are owners who have upgraded their DTX's woofer into JBL woofers. Based on the posts, this seems to be a good option if wanting a good sub and short in budget.
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Are there Dai-ichi bookshelf speakers that only cost 1k or less?
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up ko na rin to.. help namn po.. im planning on buying a sub woofer.. either a dtx4.12 or 4.15 sa mga gumagamit, bka po pwdng mkiusap na malaman ang dimension nya.. tingnan ko lng kung fit sa paglalagyan.. thanks!
up ko lang po ito.. badly need ko lang.. Eh I contacted the store, wala pa silang stock.. kahit nga width na lng eh.. thanks..
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Are there Dai-ichi bookshelf speakers that only cost 1k or less?
Meron bro, alam ko yung cubes nila are at 1k. Try looking for em in Raon, baka mas mura.
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:D hi, just wanted to know if anyone here has heard of the Dai-Ichi CT-16 floor standers? are these any good?
huge FS with 2 woofers on each, i think it was released around '03?
thanks ;D
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Lordfranz,
W 14inches x H 20 inches x D 19 inches for the DTX4.12..
For the DTX 4.15, I opted to buy kasi sobrang laki compared sa DTX 4.12.
Juric,
From what I know, ask mo bro si "arthurallanj" kasi he knows and he could help you on your query.
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:D thanks sir big-bert .
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@BigBert-2,
thanks so much sir.. nakadalawang reply ka ah.. hehe.. thanks! I might go with the 4.12..
special mention to sir arthur.. thanks din sa lahat!
will keep in touch kapag nakabili nako sub.. sa mga gustong magbenta jan.. PM me lng.. hehe..
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Are there Dai-ichi bookshelf speakers that only cost 1k or less?
sir indie boi, try mo sa raon, baka me makita ka pa try mo sa sansonic, distributor ng dai-ichi un e. d ko lang sure kung bukas p un. pero sir cguro ur better off with a pre-owned wharfs, dagdag ka na lang konti..
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Ayun, Iv ordered na a DTX 4.15.. hehe.. next target eh bookshelf.. anyone has a pair of DTX 9.5B na binibenta? hehe..
baka din may nkakaalam.. ano po specs ng 9.5B? thanks..
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Hi,
Just started setting up my H/T. Would just like to ask about DTX subs. Would the 4.10 be better than the Wharfedale 150? I'm sure its better in terms of price. :D But how's the sound quality? Would it be at par with the wharfedale?
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Matz and lemontwyst, thanks for the info. Ngayon ko lang nakita mga replies nyo, hehe. I'll try to look for 'em next time I pass by Raon. I'm not satisfied with my present PC audio setup so I really want a good pair of really affordable speakers. Mukhang malabo yung Wharfes for my setup especially if it will cost more than 2k kasi over na sa budget saka baka ibato na sa akin ng wife ko yung mga speakers ko dahil sobrang laki hehe. I'm on the lookout for the old Wharfedale 6Rs though. Perfect size and the sound is awesome!
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Matz and lemontwyst, thanks for the info. Ngayon ko lang nakita mga replies nyo, hehe. I'll try to look for 'em next time I pass by Raon. I'm not satisfied with my present PC audio setup so I really want a good pair of really affordable speakers. Mukhang malabo yung Wharfes for my setup especially if it will cost more than 2k kasi over na sa budget saka baka ibato na sa akin ng wife ko yung mga speakers ko dahil sobrang laki hehe. I'm on the lookout for the old Wharfedale 6Rs though. Perfect size and the sound is awesome!
cge sir, if i see the ones ur looking for, i'll let u know.... btw, have u considered altec for ur PC set-up?
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planning to get bookshelf speakers for my PC.. how much ba cheapest na dai-ichi bookshelf speakers sa megamall?
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Question lang po mga sir...
May available pa ba na DTX series or Euros ngayon? Saan po last sightings and how much ang set nito???
Thanks :)
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sori sirs, haven't been to dai-ichi showroom in megamall for a while...
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:'( :'( :'(
baka meron gusto magbenta dyan???
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ok ba yung US Audio sub na tig 7k?
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ok ba yung US Audio sub na tig 7k?
if you're talking US510, that would be great, I've already auditioned this sub and for me ok na ok for both audio and HT. pero still sa mga local subs da best pa rin ang DTX 4.XX
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if you're talking US510, that would be great, I've already auditioned this sub and for me ok na ok for both audio and HT. pero still sa mga local subs da best pa rin ang DTX 4.XX
made by dai-ichi rin ba DTX???
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i am selling my slimline dtx speakers 2fs, 2 bsand 1ctr.. just look under buy and sell. paired with kenwood.
sayang at di ko masulit at may baby kami. parati gising pag nanonood ako ng movies.
just email me at [email protected]
:'( :'( :'(
baka meron gusto magbenta dyan???
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i am selling my slimline dtx speakers 2fs, 2 bsand 1ctr.. just look under buy and sell. paired with kenwood.
sayang at di ko masulit at may baby kami. parati gising pag nanonood ako ng movies.
just email me at [email protected]
sir pwede kaya pa-post ung link dito para mas madali maghanap...thnx..
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made by dai-ichi rin ba DTX???
yes... I think they still manufacturing this sub.. but the problem is only few distributor are selling this kind of sub, that's why mahiarap ng makahanap.. if you really want this.. then you may go to their Plant in Pasig (I forgot the exact address) , meron silang showroom dun..
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i am selling my slimline dtx speakers 2fs, 2 bsand 1ctr.. just look under buy and sell. paired with kenwood.
sayang at di ko masulit at may baby kami. parati gising pag nanonood ako ng movies.
just email me at [email protected]
Ay sayang sir, cencia na po, ngayon ko lang nabasa 'to... Nakakuha na po ako, yung kay sir kimpoy nakuha ko... 4 dtx 9.5T, 2 dtx 9.5C, 1 dtx 4.10 and yamaha rx-v440 yung set na nabili ko sa kanya :)
How much mo nga pala sell? Baka gusto nung friend ko, iaalok ko sa kanya :)
Anyway, thanks a lot for the offer sir ha, God Bless ;)
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yes... I think they still manufacturing this sub.. but the problem is only few distributor are selling this kind of sub, that's why mahiarap ng makahanap.. if you really want this.. then you may go to their Plant in Pasig (I forgot the exact address) , meron silang showroom dun..
thnx dude.. baka sakaling mahanap mo ung address pa-post na lang.. maraming salamat ulit..
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tanong ko lang mas ok ba ang dai ichi sa konzert??
may nakita kasi ako sa greenhills konzert bookshelf speakers 2k lang :)
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tanong ko lang mas ok ba ang dai ichi sa konzert??
may nakita kasi ako sa greenhills konzert bookshelf speakers 2k lang :)
I'd say yes. I've already auditioned both side by side with exactly the same amp. The Konzert sounded darker but the detail is a bit muffled. I compared it with the DTX 9.5 and the CT series of Daiichi. That's what my own humble ears heard. ;D
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tanong ko lang mas ok ba ang dai ichi sa konzert??
may nakita kasi ako sa greenhills konzert bookshelf speakers 2k lang :)
i would say yes.... dai-ichi has been known for making quality apeakers for quite some time now...
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for those interested to get daiichi made speakers or subs, just txt me and will try to give you prices for it. If my schedule permits, will also try to service your requirements.
jut bear with me incase I dont reply asap thru pm or txt due to my work.
thanks 09209611047
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Hi,
Hope this helps.
Main Office in Pasig
DAI-ICHI ELECTRONICS MFG., CORP.
#160 F.Mariano Avenue
Bo. dela Paz, Pasig City 1600
Philippines
Telephone: (63.2) 645.4891 to 93 • 681.5325
Mobile: (63.910) 602.7559 • (63.919) 790.5140
Fax: (63.2) 681.5320
SAISHO ONKYO
Corporate Engineering Division
Dai-ichi St., Cor. Mahogany State,
Bo. dela paz, Pasig City 1600
Philippines
Telephone: (63.2) 645.6639
Fax: (63.2) 645.6633
ayon dito: http://www.productguidephil.com/~Dai-1chi/contact.html
-Edmund
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new web site ng daiichi
http://www.daiichielectronics.com.ph/
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Euro 8 speakers price list
Bookshelfs
Mega mall : 2,600
Raon: 3,500
Center
Megamall : 2k
Raon: 2,5k
Towers
megamall: 7k
raon: 8,9k
subwoofer:
megamall: 7k
raon: 8,5k
Recent those are recent prices, those are based on knight audio in raon and main branch dai-ichi megamall.
Note: bookshelfs and center speakers are not available in megamall yet! but you can order...
For the sake of those members who want to discuss Euros8 Tower, please post here
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may group buy ulit sir for Euros or for Radia? ::)
thanks
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may group buy ulit sir for Euros or for Radia? ::)
thanks
well it depends of the numbers of interested to acquire this unit.... if we will be able to get another 50 units then why not.
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Is the radia referred to here is exactly the same as the one reviewed on Secrets of Home Theater link posted on the other thread? The review claimed it was engineered and manufactured in the US. How true is it? :)
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i am planning to buy a 5.1 channel set of speakers. ano pwede nyo recommend? are there speaker sets at less than 10K budget (5.1)? anong brand and where to buy. thanks!
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well it depends of the numbers of interested to acquire this unit.... if we will be able to get another 50 units then why not.
Group buy tayo ulet.. Or meron na bang existing? tagal kong nawala sa ere eh.. thanks..
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para sa mga tweekers ng DTX sub..
HIGH-LEVEL 12 dB/OCTAVE CROSSOVER DESIGN CHART
Values selected for typical loudspeakers
and their associated impedance characteristics.
FREQUENCY 4 OHMS 8 OHMS in Hz CAP. COIL CAP. COIL
FREQUENCY 4 OHMS 8 OHMS in Hz CAP. COIL CAP. COIL
Frequency 4 ohms 8 ohms
50 564 /18 283 /36
60 472 /15 236 /30
70 400 /12.8 200 /25.7
80 354 /11.3 177 /22.6
90 313 /10 156 /20
100 283 /9.0 141 /18
120 236 /7.5 118 /15
150 188 /6.0 94.5 /12
200 141 /4.5 71 /9.0
250 113 /3.6 56.4 /7.2
300 94.5 /3.0 47.2 /6.0
350 80.5 /2.57 40.3 /5.14
400 71 /2.26 35.4 /4.52
450 62.5 /2.0 31.3 /4.0
500 56.4 /1.8 28.3 /3.6
600 47.2 /1.5 23.6 /3.0
700 40 /1.28 20 /2.57
800 35.4 /1.13 17.7 /2.26
1000 28.3 /0.9 14.1 /1.8
1200 23.6 /0.75 11.8 /1.5
1500 18.8 /0.6 9.45 /1.2
2000 14.1 /0.45 7.1 /0.9
3000 9.45 /0.3 4.72 /0.6
5000/ 5.64 /0.18 2.83 /0.36
5500 5.13 /0.16 2.56 /0.33
6000 4.72 /0.15 2.36 /0.3
7000 4.0 /0.13 2.0 /0.26
8000 3.55 /0.11 1.8 /0.23
9000 3.13 /0.1 1.56 /0.2
10000 2.83 /0.09 1.41 /0.18
All capacitor values are in microfarads ( uF ).
All coil values are in millihenrys ( mH ).
NOTE: as the chart shows, values scale up and down directly, in
octaves, for changes in impedance of half or double, and by factors of
ten for frequency factors of ten. To determine crossover points higher
or lower than those shown on the chart, select the proper impedance (4,
8, or 16 ohms) then look up the frequency in the left column that is
ten times or one tenth of your desired frequency and simply move the
decimal points to the right or to the left to determine the correct
values. Higher frequencies require moving the decimal points to the
left, and lower frequencies require moving the decimal points to the
right.
EXAMPLE: 8-ohm crossover for 80 Hz subwoofer will require a 177 uF
capacitor and a 22.6 mH coil.
CROSSOVER INDUCTORS
Wire gauges used for winding air-core inductors should be chosen
so that crossover-associated power losses are minimized. Look at the
wire table to get an idea of the approximate added resistance you will
have when using a particular wire gauge to wind inductors. This added
resistance not only spoils amplifier damping factors, but can also de-
tune vented low frequency loudspeaker systems. Use the heaviest gauge
double form var insulated wire possible for winding inductors. If you
are buying ready-made inductors, don't be misled; the coil in the 80 Hz
subwoofer example above would be 100-200 mm (4"-8") in diameter and
weigh from 2 to 8 kg (4-16 lb) depending on wire gauge. An RF coil
designed for use in radios may have the same inductance (at high
frequencies) and be wound on a pencil-sized bobbin with fine wire.
This type of inductor will definitely not work in a crossover with
loudspeaker loads connected.
Make sure your coils are wound tightly with neatly stacked layers
which produce a winding cross section that is approximately square.
The bobbin used to wind coils for crossovers should have an inside coil
diameter which is twice the coil width or thickness, and the outside
coil diameter should be wound out to four times the coil's width, or
twice the inside diameter. After winding, saturate the coil in lacquer
or resin. After drying, wrap it with stretchable cloth tape and give
it another coat of lacquer. Keeping the layers stacked neatly and the
coil cross section square, helps minimize the wire resistance for a
given inductor value.
Use a mounting board made of non-magnetic material such as
masonite or plywood. Place coils on your crossover mounting board so
that all coils are facing each other at right angles to minimize
magnetic inductive coupling. Some distance between coils helps reduce
coupling also. Keep any coils away from large metal surfaces. Place
insulating tubing over coil lead out wires to prevent shorts in case of
speaker system vibration. On long lead out wires, clamps or blobs of
hot glue should be used to dress wires securely to the mounting board.
CROSSOVER CAPACITORS
Capacitors used in crossovers MUST BE NON-POLARIZED and for best
sound must have low self-inductance. High-quality 100-200 volt rated,
foil wound Mylar capacitors should be used and should be individually
paralleled by 0.01 microfarad polypropylene or polystyrene capacitors
to short out the high-frequency self-inductance of coil formed by the
many layers of foil winding inside. Capacitors should be placed on the
crossover mounting board away from heat-producing power resistors.
Capacitor placement is not critical in terms of electrical operation of
the crossover, however, capacitors should be attached so that speaker
system vibration will not break their leads by bending and metal
fatigue.
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hay...hirap intindihin nyan sa mga kagaya kong newbie,,,baka naman sir you accept tweaking.post mo price and kung pwede ka mag tweak kahit ampli lang dalhin namin...or kung youre generous enough,eh splika mo na lang step by step pati kung anong parts ang papalitan....
tnx
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Mga sir good day! Ano po bang powered sub woofer mare-recommend nyo sa Dai-ichi? Nakapunta na ako sa dai-ichi megamall, kaso di ko alam kung ano maganda doon hehe baguhan lang ako eh
Balak ko kasi magpalit, kasi yung sub woofer ko eh sariling buo ko lang parang frankenstein. Ok naman yung tunog, sumisipa at yumayanig.
Yung binuo ko eh sealed, 8 inch targa 250w, yung amp ng sub eh fenton na pangkotse ;D, separate dc power supply so imagine nyo na lang parang ang gulo at ang labo haha :D Gamit ko nga pala yung sub sa pc ko
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Mga sir good day! Ano po bang powered sub woofer mare-recommend nyo sa Dai-ichi? Nakapunta na ako sa dai-ichi megamall, kaso di ko alam kung ano maganda doon hehe baguhan lang ako eh
Balak ko kasi magpalit, kasi yung sub woofer ko eh sariling buo ko lang parang frankenstein. Ok naman yung tunog, sumisipa at yumayanig.
Yung binuo ko eh sealed, 8 inch targa 250w, yung amp ng sub eh fenton na pangkotse ;D, separate dc power supply so imagine nyo na lang parang ang gulo at ang labo haha :D Gamit ko nga pala yung sub sa pc ko
You could check US audio512, 510 or 508.... or DTX series 4.10, 4.12 or 4.15. kung wala ka mapili sa megamall,
try mo sa Raon @ knight Auidio
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mukhang ayos yung dtx 4.15 nakita po ako sa isang thread balak nila mag group buy ng dtx 4.15 for less than 4k sa daiichi megamall kapag nakakuha sila ng 100 buyers di na daw kasi gumagawa ng 4.12 at 4.15
ano po ba itsura ng likod ng dtx?
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sa mga meron dtx 4.12 dyan, check this out! display sa dai-ichi mega ngayun! 3,500 lang, swak pamalit sa driver ng dq12 or dtx 4.12!
3,500 lang yung 12"!
its the Aurasound RPM 12,000
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/vapo_chill/IMG_1255.jpg)
its for car application but i've read somewhere that its an excellent home sub as well!
may gulay iba talaga dai-ichi, i never even thought that the Auras are OEMs ng DAI! Wapak!
i'll be buying one this week and replace the one on my Dq12. post ako ng feedback. tinest namin toh sa showroom and it sure digs deep!
http://www.aurasound.com/public/discontinued/body.html (http://www.aurasound.com/public/discontinued/body.html)
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sa mga meron dtx 4.12 dyan, check this out! display sa dai-ichi mega ngayun! 3,500 lang, swak pamalit sa driver ng dq12 or dtx 4.12!
3,500 lang yung 12"!
its the Aurasound RPM 12,000
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/vapo_chill/IMG_1255.jpg)
its for car application but i've read somewhere that its an excellent home sub as well!
may gulay iba talaga dai-ichi, i never even thought that the Auras are OEMs ng DAI! Wapak!
i'll be buying one this week and replace the one on my Dq12. post ako ng feedback. tinest namin toh sa showroom and it sure digs deep!
http://www.aurasound.com/public/discontinued/body.html (http://www.aurasound.com/public/discontinued/body.html)
Sir, meron bang ganyan pang 4.15? ;D
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sa mga meron dtx 4.12 dyan, check this out! display sa dai-ichi mega ngayun! 3,500 lang, swak pamalit sa driver ng dq12 or dtx 4.12!
3,500 lang yung 12"!
its the Aurasound RPM 12,000
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/vapo_chill/IMG_1255.jpg)
its for car application but i've read somewhere that its an excellent home sub as well!
may gulay iba talaga dai-ichi, i never even thought that the Auras are OEMs ng DAI! Wapak!
i'll be buying one this week and replace the one on my Dq12. post ako ng feedback. tinest namin toh sa showroom and it sure digs deep!
http://www.aurasound.com/public/discontinued/body.html (http://www.aurasound.com/public/discontinued/body.html)
mas maganda sana kung kita din yung likod nung driver ;D
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mas maganda sana kung kita din yung likod nung driver
i wish i did but the driver is freakin heavy!
wala ako nakita 15" eh
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i wish i did but the driver is freakin heavy!
wala ako nakita 15" eh
ganda specs! sayang, walang 15"
http://www.aurasound.com/public/discontinued/images/spec/rpm_sub_b.jpg (http://www.aurasound.com/public/discontinued/images/spec/rpm_sub_b.jpg)
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sana may group buy uli ng dtx 4.xx hehe ;D
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mukhang ayos yung dtx 4.15 nakita po ako sa isang thread balak nila mag group buy ng dtx 4.15 for less than 4k sa daiichi megamall kapag nakakuha sila ng 100 buyers di na daw kasi gumagawa ng 4.12 at 4.15
ano po ba itsura ng likod ng dtx?
:)) tapos na po ito.. hehe..
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curious lang mga sir,i was in dai raon kanina, i saw euro6 floorstander with 3woofers and 1 tweeter i dont know if its 6.5" or 5".the sales clerk there told me that euros6 and euro6 are different(note the "s").un ung sabi nya and we audition it and ok naman medyo hindi pa lang ma bass kc hindi pa break-in or baka dahil sa type of music and receiver.any input or experience about this euro6,same price range ng euros6.square lang ung box nya unlike the euros6.
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kano sir price sau nung euro6?
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kano sir price sau nung euro6?
8.5k discounted na yan from 10k+
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Just to add to this topic...
Don't belittle the Dai-ichi brand for all the enthusiast there. I have known the owner and their profile long enough to say how world class their quality is. Here are some of the customers which they supply to, to their respective countries:
1. Marshall guitar amps .Yep, you heard me right! They have been supplying speakers to Marshall amps for years now. Buy a Marshall amp from US and try to look at the cone and magnet you'll see that the parts are very similar to Dai-ichi design. Well of course, they are the same.
2. Armstrong Speakers - ceiling speakers very famous in the US. They even have a patent on it. (http://www.armstrong.com/commceilingsna/i-ceilings.jsp)
3. Bose - No this is not a joke. Bose used to source all their speakers from China, but after suffering from bad quality feedback they looked for another quality supplier exclusive for EU and US markets only. Guess who they sourced it from?? You got it right. They went to Dai-ichi Philippines to hear for themselves what the quality level of speakers they are buying. They even borrowed some of Dai-ichi electronic's design in their speaker. Too bad, those high end speakers are not for sale here in Philippines. Bose only sells China made speakers here in the Philippines. So if you hear a Bose speaker that is sounding really bad, thats a China sourced speaker. You have to go to US to buy the Pinoy made speaker thats inside that Bose plastic cube.
4. Speakerkraft - very high end car speakers very famous in the US
5. KEF Speakers - (http://www.kef.com) These are high end speakers ranging from professional audiophiles to high end home theater speakers. They worked with this company to perfect their sound. Believe me, these are not low end speakers.
6. JVC - They working on a new technology for processing wires in their speakers with JVC. These are for the professional line of speakers with JVC.
So how come they have inconsistent quality when you buy it from Raon or other places? Well, Pinoys are not that demanding as a customer compared to US and EU. So they are not very strict on their standard when selling speakers locally. We have a "pwede na yan" mentality. And so far, no one even tried reporting this to DTI.
So now you know Dai-ichi and its hidden capability. Be proud that they are making a name in the speaker industry in US, EU and other parts of the world. Be proud because they are 100% made by pinoys!!
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Just to add to this topic...
Don't belittle the Dai-ichi brand for all the enthusiast there. I have known the owner and their profile long enough to say how world class their quality is. Here are some of the customers which they supply to, to their respective countries:
1. Marshall guitar amps .Yep, you heard me right! They have been supplying speakers to Marshall amps for years now. Buy a Marshall amp from US and try to look at the cone and magnet you'll see that the parts are very similar to Dai-ichi design. Well of course, they are the same.
2. Armstrong Speakers - ceiling speakers very famous in the US. They even have a patent on it. (http://www.armstrong.com/commceilingsna/i-ceilings.jsp)
3. Bose - No this is not a joke. Bose used to source all their speakers from China, but after suffering from bad quality feedback they looked for another quality supplier exclusive for EU and US markets only. Guess who they sourced it from?? You got it right. They went to Dai-ichi Philippines to hear for themselves what the quality level of speakers they are buying. They even borrowed some of Dai-ichi electronic's design in their speaker. Too bad, those high end speakers are not for sale here in Philippines. Bose only sells China made speakers here in the Philippines. So if you hear a Bose speaker that is sounding really bad, thats a China sourced speaker. You have to go to US to buy the Pinoy made speaker thats inside that Bose plastic cube.
4. Speakerkraft - very high end car speakers very famous in the US
5. KEF Speakers - (http://www.kef.com) These are high end speakers ranging from professional audiophiles to high end home theater speakers. They worked with this company to perfect their sound. Believe me, these are not low end speakers.
6. JVC - They working on a new technology for processing wires in their speakers with JVC. These are for the professional line of speakers with JVC.
So how come they have inconsistent quality when you buy it from Raon or other places? Well, Pinoys are not that demanding as a customer compared to US and EU. So they are not very strict on their standard when selling speakers locally. We have a "pwede na yan" mentality. And so far, no one even tried reporting this to DTI.
So now you know Dai-ichi and its hidden capability. Be proud that they are making a name in the speaker industry in US, EU and other parts of the world. Be proud because they are 100% made by pinoys!!
Not only are Pinoys "not that demanding" but as I have said before, the paying capacity of the pinoy masses dictates that speaker prices should be low enough which necessitates the lowering of quality standards to accommodate the price cut.
Prices of Dai products abroad is high enough to allow the manufacturer to use best design and materials and still profit from it. ;)
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galing ako Dai mega kanina mga 12pm after office....
di ko inakala meron pa dahil alam ko kinuha na ni sir Threadlock yung nasa display...
hehehe, meron pa naghintay sa kin isang piraso kanina para sa DQ12 ko....
Wala na ko sana balak bumili ngunit subalit but John gave me a rock bottom price i couldn't resist!
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/vapo_chill/DSC00008-2.jpg)
and it has a bigger magnet than the ones i saw (and posted above)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/vapo_chill/DSC00009-2.jpg)
Stock DQ12 driver vs the Aura 12,000rpm (by Dai-Ichi)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/vapo_chill/DSC00012-1.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/vapo_chill/DSC00011.jpg)
i don't have the exact specs of the 12,000rpm but it sure is sensitive than the stock driver. rattling our small living room and the slam is oh so...
darn! it really rocks hard! break in mode pa yung driver and tweaked the power caps to 4 x 10,000uf
break in mode using bass heavy materials ---Benny Benassi 2006 and Fierce Angel Collections! afternoon party mode ngayun dito!
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e ayan naman na pala e baka naman pwede mo benta sa akin yang stock na speaker ng 4.12 mo. PM mo na lang sa akin yung best price mo hehehehe
;D
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e ayan naman na pala e baka naman pwede mo benta sa akin yang stock na speaker ng 4.12 mo. PM mo na lang sa akin yung best price mo hehehehe
ehehehe, sorry sir, gagawan ko kasi sia enclosure at sia gagamitin ko sa kotse! hehehehe! recylce baga
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Just to add to this topic...
Don't belittle the Dai-ichi brand for all the enthusiast there. I have known the owner and their profile long enough to say how world class their quality is. Here are some of the customers which they supply to, to their respective countries:
1. Marshall guitar amps .Yep, you heard me right! They have been supplying speakers to Marshall amps for years now. Buy a Marshall amp from US and try to look at the cone and magnet you'll see that the parts are very similar to Dai-ichi design. Well of course, they are the same.
2. Armstrong Speakers - ceiling speakers very famous in the US. They even have a patent on it. (http://www.armstrong.com/commceilingsna/i-ceilings.jsp)
3. Bose - No this is not a joke. Bose used to source all their speakers from China, but after suffering from bad quality feedback they looked for another quality supplier exclusive for EU and US markets only. Guess who they sourced it from?? You got it right. They went to Dai-ichi Philippines to hear for themselves what the quality level of speakers they are buying. They even borrowed some of Dai-ichi electronic's design in their speaker. Too bad, those high end speakers are not for sale here in Philippines. Bose only sells China made speakers here in the Philippines. So if you hear a Bose speaker that is sounding really bad, thats a China sourced speaker. You have to go to US to buy the Pinoy made speaker thats inside that Bose plastic cube.
4. Speakerkraft - very high end car speakers very famous in the US
5. KEF Speakers - (http://www.kef.com) These are high end speakers ranging from professional audiophiles to high end home theater speakers. They worked with this company to perfect their sound. Believe me, these are not low end speakers.
6. JVC - They working on a new technology for processing wires in their speakers with JVC. These are for the professional line of speakers with JVC.
So how come they have inconsistent quality when you buy it from Raon or other places? Well, Pinoys are not that demanding as a customer compared to US and EU. So they are not very strict on their standard when selling speakers locally. We have a "pwede na yan" mentality. And so far, no one even tried reporting this to DTI.
So now you know Dai-ichi and its hidden capability. Be proud that they are making a name in the speaker industry in US, EU and other parts of the world. Be proud because they are 100% made by pinoys!!
wala yata sa listahan yung mga high-endrs? ::) ::) ::)
parang may kamuka dito, alin kaya?
http://home.comcast.net/~thomasw_2/
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Hi! I am just new here. I would like to help those who wanted to get Dai-ichi products as I used to distribute their products before. Although I don't have a shop or store right now, I could still get their products.
For subwoofer drivers, they are the manufacturers of the highly regarded Crystal Mobilesound for car installs. Other brands they have sold locally are Esoteric Audio and Phoenix Gold (their drivers sold here are discontinued in the US that's why they are now sold locally from whatever stock they have left.
For speakers they have sold some units of Klipsch SB-1 or SB-2 and the BG Radia X-1 (both of which are discontinued in the US).
On the iPod/MP3 and Sony PSP front, they have the Banshee Audio. Old models are the ones sold locally if they are still available. The new models will not be sold here because of licensing agreements.
If interested send me PM.
Thanks.
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Hi! I am just new here. I would like to help those who wanted to get Dai-ichi products as I used to distribute their products before. Although I don't have a shop or store right now, I could still get their products.
For subwoofer drivers, they are the manufacturers of the highly regarded Crystal Mobilesound for car installs. Other brands they have sold locally are Esoteric Audio and Phoenix Gold (their drivers sold here are discontinued in the US that's why they are now sold locally from whatever stock they have left.
For speakers they have sold some units of Klipsch SB-1 or SB-2 and the BG Radia X-1 (both of which are discontinued in the US).
On the iPod/MP3 and Sony PSP front, they have the Banshee Audio. Old models are the ones sold locally if they are still available. The new models will not be sold here because of licensing agreements.
If interested send me PM.
Thanks.
pls list down the audio gears that you can acquire from daii and the corresponding prices thanx!
meron pa ba BG x3 at x1?
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Hi! I am just new here. I would like to help those who wanted to get Dai-ichi products as I used to distribute their products before. Although I don't have a shop or store right now, I could still get their products.
For subwoofer drivers, they are the manufacturers of the highly regarded Crystal Mobilesound for car installs. Other brands they have sold locally are Esoteric Audio and Phoenix Gold (their drivers sold here are discontinued in the US that's why they are now sold locally from whatever stock they have left.
For speakers they have sold some units of Klipsch SB-1 or SB-2 and the BG Radia X-1 (both of which are discontinued in the US).
On the iPod/MP3 and Sony PSP front, they have the Banshee Audio. Old models are the ones sold locally if they are still available. The new models will not be sold here because of licensing agreements.
If interested send me PM.
Thanks.
Hello 1great.
Baka pwede mo naman tulungan iyung mga nag-attempt mag group buy ng DTX 4.15. Anim pa lang kami. Pwede na ba iyun to get us 6 pcs of DTX 4.15?
Thanks.
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Please read my reply to this thread:
DTX 4.15 @ P5,600 Group Buy again - Dec 2007 - Join na!
Thanks.
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DTX subs – they are just checking how much they are going to sell it.
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To those interested with Daiichi products specially DTX subs and Euros/Euro speakers, please PM me so I could inform you the prices.
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galing ako Dai mega kanina mga 12pm after office....
di ko inakala meron pa dahil alam ko kinuha na ni sir Threadlock yung nasa display...
hehehe, meron pa naghintay sa kin isang piraso kanina para sa DQ12 ko....
Wala na ko sana balak bumili ngunit subalit but John gave me a rock bottom price i couldn't resist!
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/vapo_chill/DSC00008-2.jpg)
and it has a bigger magnet than the ones i saw (and posted above)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/vapo_chill/DSC00009-2.jpg)
Stock DQ12 driver vs the Aura 12,000rpm (by Dai-Ichi)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/vapo_chill/DSC00012-1.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/vapo_chill/DSC00011.jpg)
i don't have the exact specs of the 12,000rpm but it sure is sensitive than the stock driver. rattling our small living room and the slam is oh so...
darn! it really rocks hard! break in mode pa yung driver and tweaked the power caps to 4 x 10,000uf
break in mode using bass heavy materials ---Benny Benassi 2006 and Fierce Angel Collections! afternoon party mode ngayun dito!
alam niyo po ba ilang ohms requirement yang DQ12?
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I saw this monster 12" Elemental Dual Magnet Sub at Dai-Ichi in Megamall. Anybody already got this? As per the rep, you will be needing a minimun 1,000Watts to drive this monster. Priced at 18,000ph/@
(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h134/donnel111/s1-1.jpg) (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h134/donnel111/s2-1.jpg)
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wow parang long throw ah... can't imagine the amount of spl that thing is going to give! ;D
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checked the impedance for that dual magnet sub and its 2 ohms. :)
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holy cow, dapat stable at 1 ohm yun power amp... :o
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holy goat! ;D you need a beast amp indeed to drive this monster. Kaya pala the rep told me if I were to use it in a car, only one amp can drive it...KICKER. :o
I think you need a pro amp to handle this if you wish to use it in your HT.
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may available pa bang mga dtx for 5.1? parang euros na lang ata yung nasa megamall ngayon.
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I saw this monster 12" Elemental Dual Magnet Sub at Dai-Ichi in Megamall. Anybody already got this? As per the rep, you will be needing a minimun 1,000Watts to drive this monster. Priced at 18,000ph/@
(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h134/donnel111/s1-1.jpg) (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h134/donnel111/s2-1.jpg)
I have this just rotting in my room because I cannot power it. Model is Elemental Designs 13Av.2, their flagship sub for car audio.
Link: http://www.edesignaudio.com/product_info.php?products_id=554 (http://www.edesignaudio.com/product_info.php?products_id=554)
Reviews: http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21658 (http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21658)
http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32810 (http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32810)
My problem is, the damn thing is dual 4-Ohm and needs about 1,300 Watts of power. Im am really out of luck finding plate amp that can give a power like that. This beast really strained my muscles just carrying it by a few meters as it weighs about 59 lbs. Anybody can help me with the plate amp? I really wanted to make a sealed sub geared towards SQ out of this for my home audio setup. Thanks!
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how about euros 8 againts wharfe 9.5,cm,dfs? using denon 1907 which will sound better?
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how about euros 8 againts wharfe 9.5,cm,dfs? using denon 1907 which will sound better?
Euros are very easy to drive speakers, kayang-kaya ng denon 1907 mo yan but you have to audition euros and wharfedale speakers on your receiver first, then you'll decide on what's best for your taste ;)
Goodluck :)
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Im am really out of luck finding plate amp that can give a power like that. This beast really strained my muscles just carrying it by a few meters as it weighs about 59 lbs.
want to sell ? ;D
why look for a plate amp ... why not look for rack-mount amp, the likes of behringer A500 or crown or Konzert or ...
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want to sell ? ;D
Not now, I really would like to hear how it sounds. :D
why look for a plate amp ... why not look for rack-mount amp, the likes of behringer A500 or crown or Konzert or ...
Plate amp has line inputs, gain control, cheaper(I think) and is easier to setup than rack mount amps. If ever I'll have to use the A500, I'll have to buy about 3 pieces, bridge it and deal with mess of wires. If each A500 cost 14K then it would be 42K for the amp alone(price of mid-level sub already). Besides, I do not know how to bridge amps and worries it will damage either the amps or the sub. Maybe you can help me with the bridging? :D
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to bryks, i suggest you audition first, kung consider mo dai-ichi in you new set-up. goodluck
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Is this really practical to use for HT? Are you sure your neighbors won't be throwing stuff at your window? I remember playing loud music with my car and one of the neighbors got pissed and threw a banana peel at my windshield. Thank God it was just a banana peel!
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saw a "local"version of this bookshelf speaker at sm megamall >>>
http://www.hps4000.com/pages/sr20_.html
http://www.hps4000.com/pages/hpshomespeakers_.html
(http://www.hps4000.com/pages/sr20-web-spec-sheet.jpg)
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HI. does anyone have feedback on these sr-20 models? can't seem to find any info on the web.. maybe someone has auditioned them.. sincerely appreciate it.. at 5500 approx, they seem attractively priced... just need a second opinion.
Thanks!
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Not now, I really would like to hear how it sounds. :D
Plate amp has line inputs, gain control, cheaper(I think) and is easier to setup than rack mount amps. If ever I'll have to use the A500, I'll have to buy about 3 pieces, bridge it and deal with mess of wires. If each A500 cost 14K then it would be 42K for the amp alone(price of mid-level sub already). Besides, I do not know how to bridge amps and worries it will damage either the amps or the sub. Maybe you can help me with the bridging? :D
Behringer EP2500.
http://www.behringer.com/EP2500/index.cfm?lang=ENG
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sir,
meron po akong konzert 8" 100w sub, pwede ko po bang palitanng 10" at same box po ang ga2mitin ko. kc nasa2pawan cya ng front ko na 10" 450w eh.
kung 12" sana kaso baka di n kasya sa box.
Thanks po.
BuRN
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galing ako Dai mega kanina mga 12pm after office....
di ko inakala meron pa dahil alam ko kinuha na ni sir Threadlock yung nasa display...
hehehe, meron pa naghintay sa kin isang piraso kanina para sa DQ12 ko....
Wala na ko sana balak bumili ngunit subalit but John gave me a rock bottom price i couldn't resist!
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/vapo_chill/DSC00008-2.jpg)
and it has a bigger magnet than the ones i saw (and posted above)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/vapo_chill/DSC00009-2.jpg)
Stock DQ12 driver vs the Aura 12,000rpm (by Dai-Ichi)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/vapo_chill/DSC00012-1.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/vapo_chill/DSC00011.jpg)
i don't have the exact specs of the 12,000rpm but it sure is sensitive than the stock driver. rattling our small living room and the slam is oh so...
darn! it really rocks hard! break in mode pa yung driver and tweaked the power caps to 4 x 10,000uf
break in mode using bass heavy materials ---Benny Benassi 2006 and Fierce Angel Collections! afternoon party mode ngayun dito!
Pwede po ba itong pamalit sa stock driver ng Usaudio 512D? Salamat!
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up lang po ;D
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Pwede po ba itong pamalit sa stock driver ng Usaudio 512D? Salamat!
Pwede mo siya i-try. Kung ok sayo yung tunog kunin mo siya. Subwoofer drivers are part of the design of the full product, pwedeng yung ginamit mong driver di bagay sa enclosure na kinalagyan nito. At pwede din na super ganda ang lumabas na tunog. Pwede mo din i-try yung Crystal Mobilesound, Esoteric Audio at yung bago nila yung Elemental Design depende na lang sa budget mo. Pwede din yung Targa, Dai-ichi ang me gawa lahat niyan.
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Try this site of dai-ichi ;D
daiichi.ph ;)
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To those interested with Daiichi products specially DTX subs and Euros/Euro speakers, please PM me so I could inform you the prices.
pls pm pprices. ty
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pls. pm the prices for the HT and Hi-fi. thanks
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hi all!
nasira yung fuse ng DTX 4.12 ko, saan kaya ako makakakuha ng replacement fuse? wala kasi ako mahanap ng eksaktong kasukat eh. puro same ratings pero hindi pareho ng diameter ng ginagamit sa DTX 4.12. pag kinakabit ko yung mga bagong bili kong fuse bumubukas sandali yung sub then uusok at mamamatay uli. pls help. thanks!
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bro pa repair mo na lang dtx sub may open sa circuit nyan kaya bumibigay ang fuse
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bro dalahin mo sa dai-ichi or better yet call them, baka ipadala sayo yung amp unit sa dai raon. lifetime warranty naman yan eh pyesa lang bibilihin mo.
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hi all!
nasira yung fuse ng DTX 4.12 ko, saan kaya ako makakakuha ng replacement fuse? wala kasi ako mahanap ng eksaktong kasukat eh. puro same ratings pero hindi pareho ng diameter ng ginagamit sa DTX 4.12. pag kinakabit ko yung mga bagong bili kong fuse bumubukas sandali yung sub then uusok at mamamatay uli. pls help. thanks!
bro may reason bakit nasira fuse, most probably a short circuit. dapat ma-trace problema, or else puputok uli yan kung basta mo lang papalitan. dapat talaga pa-check mo.
ung fuse ba nyan mataba? try mo sa car audio supplier.
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pwede ko po ba makuha phone number ng dai ichi? subukan kong tawagan, sana may home service sila, medyo mabigat kasi to eh :)
ung fuse ba nyan mataba?
yes, mataba po. wala nga akong makitang eksaktong kasukat sa mga electronic stores.
salamat sa mga nagreply ;D
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baka malapit ka lang sa sm north may pwesto na sila dun
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Bro san sa SM north? Ano kalapit na tindahan? TIA
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di ko alam where in sm exactly. may nagbanggit lang sa kin di ko naman natanong. my best guess would be sa new annex
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Yung Dai-ichi sa SM North is located at the Cyberzone/carpark malapit sa tokyo-tokyo. I bought my Studio Acoustics SA508(same as US audio 508) Sub there and also my euros 6, 5 speaker set there. Look for Jimmy(salesman) or Venus(manager) mababait mga yan they give discounts pa. Oks talaga Daiichi. Eto number nila 382-2283
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sharing my ultra bugeted daichi speaker and subs ;D
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/poochaudio/HT/IMG_0817.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/poochaudio/HT/IMG_0818.jpg)
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Pareho tayo ng sub pooch. Great bass. Bang for your buck talaga. Dai-ichi speakers are great!
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meron ba silang separate speakers & tweeters? balak ko mag-diy ng bookshelf
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Pareho tayo ng sub pooch. Great bass. Bang for your buck talaga. Dai-ichi speakers are great!
lagi nga ubos sa daichi mega.. i wonder why ;D
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markcrenz, meron sila sa SM North call Venus or Jimmy at 382-2283. The showroom is located at the SM Cyberzone/carpark near tokyo-tokyo ;)
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Guys ano po feedback/review sa US Audio US10cc Center channel speaker? I'm planning to get one and pair it with my US660b floorstanders.
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Mga sir,
Yung katulong namin sa bahay pinakyelaman yung cover nung Euros8 tower ko. Nilabhan! Luminis nga pero lupaypay na! Baka meron kayong mai-refer na magaling mag restore or gumawa ng cover, yung kuhang kuha ang original or baka meron nagbebenta ng original cover?
Thanks!
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Mga sir,
Yung katulong namin sa bahay pinakyelaman yung cover nung Euros8 tower ko. Nilabhan! Luminis nga pero lupaypay na! Baka meron kayong mai-refer na magaling mag restore or gumawa ng cover, yung kuhang kuha ang original or baka meron nagbebenta ng original cover?
Thanks!
Dalhin mo sa Daiichi at aayusin nila yan.
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Mga sir,
Yung katulong namin sa bahay pinakyelaman yung cover nung Euros8 tower ko. Nilabhan! Luminis nga pero lupaypay na! Baka meron kayong mai-refer na magaling mag restore or gumawa ng cover, yung kuhang kuha ang original or baka meron nagbebenta ng original cover?
Thanks!
Sana sinabon mo yung kasambahay mo....na walang banlawan ;D ;D. Joke lang po.
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galing ako sa dai-ichi sm north, sabi nila dalhin ko na lang sa dai-ichi megamall branch yung ampli ng dtx 4.12 ko dahil malamang yun ang sira.
sale pala sila ngayon, na-tempt akong bumili ng mga 8incher subs nila for 3.5-4k hehe..
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sale pala sila ngayon, na-tempt akong bumili ng mga 8incher subs nila for 3.5-4k hehe..
Confirm ko lang, subwoofer dtx 4.12 ba yung naka-sale ng 3.5K-4k? if so, up to when?
Thanks ;)
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Dalhin mo sa Daiichi at aayusin nila yan.
okies, sana maayos nila. dahil wala ng cover, yung mga kids niyupi nila yung mga dust cover, hindi na perfect concave yung shape. Tinry kong hilahin using any type of sticky tapes ayaw, atsaka nababakbak. Meron bang effect sa sound pag nayupi yon? Any other ways para maibalik sa dating itsura?
Thanks!
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bili ka new dust cap same size tapos dikit mo ng elmers glue. you can opt to remove the old dust cap (you'll need a sharp cutter and very steady hands!) or just stick the new cap on top of the old one. dry thoroughly before using. the good thing is 20 pesos lang ata un. ;)
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@reynold
nope, mga us audio yung nakita kong models. 8-10 inchers
paano ko kaya matatangal yung ampli ng dtx 4.12? may wire kasi na hindi ko maalis (sa speaker ata naka-kabit). balak ko sana putulin na lang at dugtungin uli pagkatapos. ok lang kaya yun?
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bili ka new dust cap same size tapos dikit mo ng elmers glue. you can opt to remove the old dust cap (you'll need a sharp cutter and very steady hands!) or just stick the new cap on top of the old one. dry thoroughly before using. the good thing is 20 pesos lang ata un. ;)
ayos, thanks!
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By the way guys, I am ready to buy a sub woofer, nakapag ipon na. Budget is 6-8k. Anong best sub na available pa sa market that will match my existing Euros 8 setup?
Thanks!
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for that amount dagdag ka lang a few hunderds you can get a US audio 512 alam ko mga 8k
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By the way guys, I am ready to buy a sub woofer, nakapag ipon na. Budget is 6-8k. Anong best sub na available pa sa market that will match my existing Euros 8 setup?
Thanks!
DTX 4.15 smooth na smooth.
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By the way guys, I am ready to buy a sub woofer, nakapag ipon na. Budget is 6-8k. Anong best sub na available pa sa market that will match my existing Euros 8 setup?
Thanks!
try mo sub ni pilyo168. i got his amp4v2 and paired it with a jbl 1202d in a customized box. groundshaking! references:
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=90634.0
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=82085.0
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DTX 4.15 smooth na smooth.
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/newadd2.jpg)
Ayos ha, pati TV parehong pareho tayo sir, Kolin with Toshiba as the picture tube. True Color!
Thanks!
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Ayos ha, pati TV parehong pareho tayo sir, Kolin with Toshiba as the picture tube. True Color!
Thanks!
tunay na bang for the buck yan bro hehehe!
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la na ata dtx4.15 ngyn naghahanap rin nga ako nyan ngyn la na ako makita :)
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alin ba mas ok, yung DTX or US Audio subs?
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alin ba mas ok, yung DTX or US Audio subs?
pilyo sub!
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=90634.0
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=82085.0
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pag dating ko pagawa ako kay pilyo ng multi amp para HT malapit lang pala siya sa amin sa Pasay. hehehe
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i am using a ganz klar sub for almost 5 years maganda and gapang ng bass. they have a showroom in megamall near daichi
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i am using a ganz klar sub for almost 5 years maganda and gapang ng bass. they have a showroom in megamall near daichi
yah ganzlar use to make good subs, german tech local assemble, pero wala na yung GSX series nila phaseout na, i remember when I got my first sub a ganzlar GSX5 grabe sa bigat.
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For the sake of those members who want to discuss Euros8 Tower, please post here
Available pa ba ito sa mega mall ngayon?
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Available pa ba ito sa mega mall ngayon?
phase out na rin sir, im lucky I got the whole set Euros 8, but Euros 6 I think is still available.
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im thinking of setting up a budget 5.1 setup.
Please pm me the prices of the Daichi HT speakers.
Thanks in advance.
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You got PM.
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You got PM.
Me to and please include HT and Audio speakers.
Cheers
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sir meron bang nabibili sa daichi na separate na soft dome tweeters and woofers? trying to DIY thanks!
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sir meron bang nabibili sa daichi na separate na soft dome tweeters and woofers? trying to DIY thanks!
yes, try mo dt25a softdome tweeter 460@
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Me to and please include HT and Audio speakers.
Cheers
You got PM.
Thanks
1great
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guyz mgkano ba ngayonsa market ang dai-ichi 15" woofer and sub??? cgro mga 500 watts nominal.. if may nakakaalm pls indicate if its sub or woofer and pati ung wattage nominal.. tnx...
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guyz mgkano ba ngayonsa market ang dai-ichi 15" woofer and sub??? cgro mga 500 watts nominal.. if may nakakaalm pls indicate if its sub or woofer and pati ung wattage nominal.. tnx...
635-3111 john or merlisa
daii sm megamall
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bRo 0weidah, tnx for this info ha.. ;D
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i passed by megamall yesterday. may clearance sale sila. dami mga items naka-sale. i think tomorrow up to aug31 closed sila for renovation.
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Sale in SM North EDSA starting today until sunday, Aug. 31 - July 2, 2009
Meron bang Dai-1chi showroom sa North EDSA?
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^meron bro sa may cyberzone.
yung dtx 4.12 ko pumuputok ang fuse. binuksan ko yung ampli may moist yung nakahinang sa ilalim. ok lang ba ipagawa ito sa ibang technician?
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^meron bro sa may cyberzone.
yung dtx 4.12 ko pumuputok ang fuse. binuksan ko yung ampli may moist yung nakahinang sa ilalim. ok lang ba ipagawa ito sa ibang technician?
Bro, mas maganda sa Daiichi mismo ipagawa kasi lifetime free service yan. Ang babayaran mo lang ay ang piyesa na nasira.
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i passed by megamall yesterday. may clearance sale sila. dami mga items naka-sale. i think tomorrow up to aug31 closed sila for renovation.
Bro rene, meron pa bang ribbon.
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@bigbert
thanks bro!
saan ba banda service center ng dai ichi sa raon?
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wala na pala dai ichi sa raon. pinagawa ko na lang sa ibang technician. di naman ganon kamahal ang singil.
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Bro rene, meron pa bang ribbon.
red ribbon? noynoy yellow ribbon? ::) ;D ....alam mo na sino ang lapitan sa 5th floor, chabit lang naman ako ;D
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red ribbon? noynoy yellow ribbon? ::) ;D ....alam mo na sino ang lapitan sa 5th floor, chabit lang naman ako ;D
Oo nga kaso may namakiaw daw noong isang araw ng yelo. Wala tira. Hehehe
:( :( :(
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Oo nga kaso may namakiaw daw noong isang araw ng yelo. Wala tira. Hehehe
:( :( :(
ah baka natunaw yelo ::) o baka si mang moneypakyaw yun! ;D sine-share naman yata sa prens nya mga tweetweet. naka-chavit naambunan lang ako ;D
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need advice on my DTX 4.12
pinarewind ko kasi yung speaker after that napansin ko naging matigas na ang bass nya. yung volume hindi ko ma set kahit 40%. hindi kaya sa epoxy na ipinandikit? any idea kung paano lumambot ang bass? kung palitan ko na lang yung driver ano ba recommended nyo?
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Bro rene, meron pa bang ribbon.
hmmmm may nagbulong na tweetweet,,,kaw ha! ::)
para di o,t. - open na uli sm megamall branch, 5th floor pa rin kahilera ng dating location
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lahat naman ng 12" driver pwede sa 12" na box ng dtx 4.12 right? punta kasi ako sa dai ichi maghahanap ako ng kapalit.
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lahat naman ng 12" driver pwede sa 12" na box ng dtx 4.12 right? punta kasi ako sa dai ichi maghahanap ako ng kapalit.
yes. but those drivers have specs thats used for calculating the box size, internal volume etc...
best to pm gurus here. i once had a MordauntShort308 8"sub, tried pioneer 8" drivers mas gumanda. pero hit or miss trial and error.
paki-kamusta mga daii peeps, yun kamo 12inch ribbon ko para sa pasko...tia ;D
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^thanks! bahala na dai ichi megamall mag recommend sa akin.
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mga sir pahelp nman sa simpleng set-up ko.. this is for small outdoor party..
plan to buy local brand speaker, but i dont know what type of speaker ahm going to use..
my amp is 502a.. ano mas prefer for outdoor, DUAL SUB OR DUAL WOOFER??, dai-ichi...
ung sub kc sa tigni ko optional naman para sa amo ko.. tska mas mganda ang sub for HT and for big outdoor parties like concert matching a good amp.. help naman.. pwde rin kung may alm kau sa crown or konzert..
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bought JBL gt1202d for my dtx 4.12 enclosure kaso di magkasya ???
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bought JBL gt1202d for my dtx 4.12 enclosure kaso di magkasya ???
from daii? pwede mo papalitan so next time sukatin mo muna butas o trace mo para sakto
kung mas malaki jbl sa butas dtx, pwede mo palakihan sa karpentero tabas sa gilid, pero di mo na pwede gamitin yung dati driver
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not from Dai Ichi, di pa ako nakavisit sa showroom nila.
pumapasok naman kaso hindi masagad ang pasok at hindi mai-screw. pagtyagaan ko na lang muna ng hindi naka screw.
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not from Dai Ichi, di pa ako nakavisit sa showroom nila.
pumapasok naman kaso hindi masagad ang pasok at hindi mai-screw. pagtyagaan ko na lang muna ng hindi naka screw.
pag bumayo yan baka maalis o baka di maganda tunog pag di firm ang pagkapasok sa butas
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hi sir im thinking of setting up a budget 5.1 setup.
Please pm me the prices of the Daichi HT speakers and amplifiers.. thanks
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hi sir im thinking of setting up a budget 5.1 setup.
Please pm me the prices of the Daichi HT speakers and amplifiers.. thanks
pls call daii sm megamall 635-3111 john/merlissa
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sir san po exact location ng dai-ichi showroom sa mega, plan to dropby this week e....
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sir san po exact location ng dai-ichi showroom sa mega, plan to dropby this week e....
top floor of building "b" near shangrila mall, you cant miss it. its across the mega trade hall.
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thanks a lot Sir iiinas, interested on their euros8 fs as entry level set-up lang muna... ;)
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To those interested with Daiichi products specially DTX subs and Euros/Euro speakers, please PM me so I could inform you the prices.
sir pa-pm po Euros speakers variants, fronts and center lang po muna, thanks :)
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sir pa-pm po Euros speakers variants, fronts and center lang po muna, thanks :)
sir may phone # ako post a few posts above. best call daii
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sir may phone # ako post a few posts above. best call daii
will call daiichi mega tomorrow, btw may available pa bang euros8 fs sa market?
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how does dai-ichi speakers compare with other mid to high end speakers? at par ba ito sa wharfs? thank you :)
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how does dai-ichi speakers compare with other mid to high end speakers? at par ba ito sa wharfs? thank you :)
sir,
iba-iba models ng daii speakers. its best you audition them, along with the wharfs. only you can judge best.
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will call daiichi mega tomorrow, btw may available pa bang euros8 fs sa market?
sir - john just txted me, meron isang pares euro8 tower bnew . pls call him.
info din po ito sa ibang interested. unahan na lang kayo
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how does dai-ichi speakers compare with other mid to high end speakers? at par ba ito sa wharfs? thank you :)
sama mo na rin missions m3i series ;) i think it's still on sale sa theater works.
same price range sama mo na rin aurum cantus f series at audio amplified on sale for the whole month of november!
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sir - john just txted me, meron isang pares euro8 tower bnew . pls call him.
info din po ito sa ibang interested. unahan na lang kayo
thanks for the info sir....eyeing on the us508a subs muna po :)
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thanks for the info sir....eyeing on the us508a subs muna po :)
k. btw hindi na yata in production ang euros. ewan kung may mahanap ka pa after that pair.
goodluck sa us508a search mo. sumabay ka kay sir simonzaide hanap din siya ganyan sub.
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k. btw hindi na yata in production ang euros. ewan kung may mahanap ka pa after that pair.
goodluck sa us508a search mo. sumabay ka kay sir simonzaide hanap din siya ganyan sub.
just talked to john the next day i posted my inquiry, pinakyaw na daw ng taga cavite lahat ng euros8 nya.. ;D btw 1great offers a reasonable price ha, attn sir simonzaide...
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just talked to john the next day i posted my inquiry, pinakyaw na daw ng taga cavite lahat ng euros8 nya.. ;D btw 1great offers a reasonable price ha, attn sir simonzaide...
spare nga yata yan nung taga-etivac ;D
kay john kayo magpahanap subs na available daii
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spare nga yata yan nung taga-etivac ;D
kay john kayo magpahanap subs na available daii
sana nga yung hindi masyadong pricey, taas ksi sa mega e.....
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sana nga yung hindi masyadong pricey, taas ksi sa mega e.....
yup 5th fl yung daii sm mega bldg b. joke!
baket sakin ok naman magpresyo sila dun? ;D ::)
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yup 5th fl yung daii sm mega bldg b. joke!
baket sakin ok naman magpresyo sila dun? ;D ::)
pm'd you sir...
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just talked to john the next day i posted my inquiry, pinakyaw na daw ng taga cavite lahat ng euros8 nya.. ;D btw 1great offers a reasonable price ha, attn sir simonzaide...
will pm 1great na :)
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been to daii-mega yesterday (walang magawa) ;D, wala si sir john yung girl ang andoon. there's a pair of euros6 & 8 there and lokked for the us508 subs, dalawang klase ba yung 508 (100w & 200w)?
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been to daii-mega yesterday (walang magawa) ;D, wala si sir john yung girl ang andoon. there's a pair of euros6 & 8 there and lokked for the us508 subs, dalawang klase ba yung 508 (100w & 200w)?
I think the other 508 (100w) is the one they branded under Studio Acoustics.
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will pm 1great na :)
hi sir, have you talked to 1great about the subs? ano balita?
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yup spoke with him the price list he sent was not updated kaya medyo mura... the 508 is still in the 5k range.. opted to wait for a second hand nalang since its upgrade season for the folks
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how does dai-ichi speakers compare with other mid to high end speakers? at par ba ito sa wharfs? thank you :)
depends sa liking ng user. yes in my opinion at par naman with wharfs. as regard to mid to high end speakers ibang usapan na yan ;D i had a set of Euros 8 (front, center, rear) that i sold several months back with 5.1 amp if i am not mistaken all for 12k ;) if only nagagamit ko then hindi ko sana benta ;D
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To those interested with Daiichi products specially DTX subs and Euros/Euro speakers, please PM me so I could inform you the prices.
pls pm pprices. ty
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@1great,
Can you also PM me the prices? Tia.
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@1great,
Can you also PM me the prices? Tia.
same here Sir :D
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Euros 8 available at Dai megamall, for 7.5k a pair.....good buy ba?
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Hello all people looking at dai-ichi speakers and subs topic....
Just want to ask if anybody saw ashton 5.1 speaker set up of dai-ichi selling it at a promotional price of P8500
its a 4 tower speaker (FL/FR & SL/SR) with Center speaker and a sub-woofer (not sure if 10inch sub, malaki sub nya) also aesthetically, its shiny coated black... very presentable... the label is ashton lang nga... with a dodgy choice of font....
Base from the sales lady from dai-ichi megamall.... it has prologic 1 and AC3 input.... the amplifier is built in the subwoofer....
Can anyone tell me if ever they bought one and/or tried it?
Thinking out loud: Sulit kaya toh compared sa Jamo 5.0 set na P7000 2 tower 2 bookshelf surround speaker and 1 center speaker
How is the sound quality?
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hi there, sino meron dito euro8 bookshelf? ano po dimensions? and how's the performance?
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Share ko lang,
Got the euro 6 center last week there at mega.
Ganda ng tunog, im planning to get the bandpass sub next.
Salamat
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Ganda nga ng tunog ng Euros 6 :).... laki din pala nya... i didnt expect it to be that big, when it got delivered.
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hindi lang pam-bahay, pang-tricycle pa! ;D
@sir armstrong - yung elemental sub pang-pajak ko ha! alam ko na kung saan napunta mga crystal kevs. sakto pa naman yung 6 1/2coax :( ;D
from daii website gallery
(http://www.daiichielectronics.com.ph/images/tricycle3.jpg)
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hindi lang pam-bahay, pang-tricycle pa! ;D
@sir armstrong - yung elemental sub pang-pajak ko ha! alam ko na kung saan napunta mga crystal kevs. sakto pa naman yung 6 1/2coax :( ;D
from daii website gallery
(http://www.daiichielectronics.com.ph/images/tricycle3.jpg)
ayos yan ah! long time no post sir rene mukhang ansarap ng bakasyon mo. ;D
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ayos yan ah! long time no post sir rene mukhang ansarap ng bakasyon mo. ;D
bitin pa nga eh ;D
mas masarap mag post sa chitchat, wala na ako mai-contribute sa audio/ht eh
assemble ipa-renta kay mr.pajak ;D
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Price check please, how much nowadays is the Euro6 and Euro8 tower speakers?
I am planning to buy a pair of tower speakers for my dad's entry level audio set-up that he will be pairing with either a Konzert or Sakura.
Thanks in advance
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ask lang ng discount on euros6 tower speaker, sabihin na member ng dito sa forum bigyan kayo ng big discount.
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ask lang ng discount on euros6 tower speaker, sabihin na member ng dito sa forum bigyan kayo ng big discount.
ako rin penge discount ;D
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Magkano kuha mo sa EURO6?
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basta ikaw sir walang problema sa discount, wala pa yung project natin basta pag dating txt ko agad sayo.
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Mga brader, anong magandang sub ngayon ng Dai-ichi? Siguro mga 10'' na sub. Mga magkano kaya? Budget ko 8K. Thanks.
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Mga brader, anong magandang sub ngayon ng Dai-ichi? Siguro mga 10'' na sub. Mga magkano kaya? Budget ko 8K. Thanks.
for your budget you can get their 12" the us audio 512.
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for your budget you can get their 12" the us audio 512.
Wow thanks iiinas. Gumagapang po kaya bass nya? Plan to pair with wharf 9.1.. :)
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Planning to pair Euros 6 with Sakura AV 200T. For budget meal setup on audio.
Bakit pagpunta ko Daiichi Mega, sarado yung space nila? As in boarded up?
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Planning to pair Euros 6 with Sakura AV 200T. For budget meal setup on audio.
Bakit pagpunta ko Daiichi Mega, sarado yung space nila? As in boarded up?
lumipat sila sa tapat ng elevator. same floor
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How much right are the 10" and 12" active ported subs, both brand new and pre-owned?
Thanks
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may euros 6 & 8 pa ba sa raon?
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mga sirs,,, help naman... anung dai-ichi speaker ang marerecommend nyo para magamit ko pang videoke... preferred ko sana ung 3 way na... tnx.. 6-8k lng budget ko.. amp ko po konzert 502a...
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hmm..will try to drop by dai-ichi at megamall to alert them on these inquiries..they're missing potential customers...will let you know. am also interested in their satellite surround speakers. in case you want to have a preview of their products, you may check this link (http://www.daiichielectronics.com.ph/) though according to a customer salesman na nakausap ko sometime last month..di na raw updated. ;)
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Try calling Daiichi Megamall @635-3111 para ma-itanong ninyo yong best option na swak sa budget nyo. Look for John. ;)
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Magkano kuha mo sa EURO6?
6.5k, on sale sa SM megamall, bought one last night....... ;D another bang for the buck deal.....
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john made me take home one (Euros 6BL) yesterday at mega mall for only P6,500, crisp clean sound on high and mid, I can practically distinguish each instrument from a song (on an FM Radio) hehe. Excellent price/performance. Simply pair a sub on these babies and enjoy! These makes for a very good front speakers on a surround setup, then simply shutoff the remotes to enjoy music.
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Mga sir ask lang po ako if sulit pa ba bilhin ang 8 years old na medium floor standing na daichi speakers? ang info lang na kuha ko is 200w 40hz to 20khz fqr 8 ohms at 89db sensitivity for 7k? May kasama daw na center speaker pero not sure specs nya. high end daw sya during that time. Sorry pero I have no idea kasi about speakers but I think ginagamit nya pa rin un til now. Thanks
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Mga sir ask lang po ako if sulit pa ba bilhin ang 8 years old na medium floor standing na daichi speakers? ang info lang na kuha ko is 200w 40hz to 20khz fqr 8 ohms at 89db sensitivity for 7k? May kasama daw na center speaker pero not sure specs nya. high end daw sya during that time. Sorry pero I have no idea kasi about speakers but I think ginagamit nya pa rin un til now. Thanks
post mo actual photo nung speaker na sinasabi mo para makilatis natin! :D
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Mga sir ask lang po ako if sulit pa ba bilhin ang 8 years old na medium floor standing na daichi speakers? ang info lang na kuha ko is 200w 40hz to 20khz fqr 8 ohms at 89db sensitivity for 7k? May kasama daw na center speaker pero not sure specs nya. high end daw sya during that time. Sorry pero I have no idea kasi about speakers but I think ginagamit nya pa rin un til now. Thanks
Tanong mo model ng speaker na sinasabi sa iyo and then call Daiichi Mega @ 635-3111. Then look for John and ask him kung tama price ng speaker. Sa pagkaka-alam ko kasi yong Euros 6 tower ay naka sale doon sa Mega at brandnew pa. ;)
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hi guys.! san po banda ang dai ichi show room sa mega mall? thanks.! ;D
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hi guys.! san po banda ang dai ichi show room sa mega mall? thanks.! ;D
it's at the 5th level of bldg. B. infront of SM Megatrade Hall 3 beside camerahaus :)
bldg. B is where the sm dept. store and cyberzone are.
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it's at the 5th level of bldg. B. infront of SM Megatrade Hall 3 beside camerahaus :)
bldg. B is where the sm dept. store and cyberzone are.
Thanks a lot sir.! I'm planning to buy some new stuff. ;D
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wow! buti na lang nakita ko tong thread na 'to and just made my mind na mas magulo :)
I am reading the thread in Konzert and AAudio, now nadagdagan pa ng Dai-ichi!
hopefully you guys can help me with some setup and pricing for Dai-ichi speakers.
My Requirements:
Usage: Mainly for Music, Movies and Videoke
Input Devices: Xtreamer (Movies); Ace DVD (Videoke); Ipod (music)
Phase 1 setup
1 Amplifier (thinking to get Konzert 502)
1 pair Front (please suggest, FS looks nice)
Phase 2 to add bass
1 sub (yung may gapang sana)
Phase 3 to complete the 5.1
1 center
1 pair Rear
Pa-include na din ang estimate ng prices.
salamat!!!
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Ano mas maganda crown, konzert o daichi pang videoke? salamat sa mga magrereply
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Ano mas maganda crown, konzert o daichi pang videoke? salamat sa mga magrereply
Magicsing
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Was at their showroom last night napadaan Kami ng gf ko then bumili siya ng earphones tapos I checked out the euros6bs and a studio acoustic center speaker. 1.5 yung center and yung bs 2k. Ganda nung center mura pa. Bakit Kaya studio acoustics na yung ibang speakers Nila? Rebranding Na ba ang dài ichi?
Next time naman ung tower speakers nila ang susubukan ko. Pwede na pang cheap or second setup
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Was at their showroom last night napadaan Kami ng gf ko then bumili siya ng earphones tapos I checked out the euros6bs and a studio acoustic center speaker. 1.5 yung center and yung bs 2k. Ganda nung center mura pa. Bakit Kaya studio acoustics na yung ibang speakers Nila? Rebranding Na ba ang dài ichi?
Next time naman ung tower speakers nila ang susubukan ko. Pwede na pang cheap or second setup
DAi is a OEM parts for some known brand like MTX, Cerwin Vega etc etc.
thats the reason why they rebadge the euros system to that coz its probably another brand name exported to particular country kaya hindi na small ang dai bro! world class na products nila and ISO certifed na rin.
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DAi is a OEM parts for some known brand like MTX, Cerwin Vega etc etc.
thats the reason why they rebadge the euros system to that coz its probably another brand name exported to particular country kaya hindi na small ang dai bro! world class na products nila and ISO certifed na rin.
i would not be surprised if the Euros towers are being sold elswhere at much higher cost....... ;D
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the Euros towers that sell for 9500 at Dai-ichi mega, sell at U$950 here:http://www.acoustechlabs.com/newproducts.htm#
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the Euros towers that sell for 9500 at Dai-ichi mega, sell at U$950 here:http://www.acoustechlabs.com/newproducts.htm#
naka mark down most if not all of their items. yung euros towers na dating 9500 are now priced at 6500
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naka mark down most if not all of their items. yung euros towers na dating 9500 are now priced at 6500
ganito? dual 6-1/2 woofer, 5" mid + dome tweeter?
(http://www.acoustechlabs.com/Images/EURO%20SPKRS/ATX60TBL_lg.jpg)
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uy panalo yan kung 6.5k lang :)
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uy panalo yan kung 6.5k lang :)
sana nga ganyan layout ng drivers. yung sa officemate ko TWMW (tweeter malayo sa midrange which is between woofers) ang layout medyo magulo ang response sa upper mid at treble frequencies.
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sana nga ganyan layout ng drivers. yung sa officemate ko TWMW (tweeter malayo sa midrange which is between woofers) ang layout medyo magulo ang response sa upper mid at treble frequencies.
they will have to do the changes to avoid complications, but this tower is winner in my book..... ;)
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sana nga ganyan layout ng drivers. yung sa officemate ko TWMW (tweeter malayo sa midrange which is between woofers) ang layout medyo magulo ang response sa upper mid at treble frequencies.
had the same config thats Euros 8 system. so far they sound sweet to me for 7 years.
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC_0375.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC_0030.jpg)
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salamat pinoydvd, biro mo ang plano ko lang eh one (1) Subwoofer either DTX 4.15 or US Audio 512 , biro mo timing two (2) pa ang nabili ko at DTX 4.15 pa, at sabay, first owner pa, salamat rrg122270, for a hassle free transaction. Ang plano kong 5.1 hometheater eh naging 5.2 hometheater, hehehehehe, BIG BASS,HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, thank you and more power, GOD BLESS : ) !!!
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may euros 8 parin kaya sa mega? ano po# nila? planning to buy sa sweldo.. hehehe ;)
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this one also looks promising... ;)
(http://www.daiichielectronics.com.ph/images/EUROS-6BL.jpg)
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euros6BL yan diba? bat kaya iba yung size nung driver ng black edition kaysa sa silver?
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euros6BL yan diba? bat kaya iba yung size nung driver ng black edition kaysa sa silver?
i think pareho lang siya. check mo specs sa website nila sir. Yung mid naging kasing laki lang ng woofers yata. and magkatabi na yung mid driver and tweeters w/c i think should be more appropriate for better sound projection
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magkano kaya yan ngayon? excited nako hehehe
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magkano kaya yan ngayon? excited nako hehehe
not sure pero i think its just below 10k. hehe
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came from dai-ichi a week or two ago and wala akong nakitang euros08 or 06bl. ang nandon lang is the euros06 (silver) and it's back to its original price na 9.5k (if i'm not mistaken). paki-pm naman ako kung may ma-ispatan kayong euros 08 or 6bl mga brader. from what i learned, walang production ng 08 at the moment kasi walang new order for it abroad. maraming salami! :D
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may euros 8 parin kaya sa mega? ano po# nila? planning to buy sa sweldo.. hehehe ;)
635-3111 look for john or merlissa
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phased out na daw euros6BL. kakadaan ko lang sa daiichi megamall. baka sa iba showroom meron available stock.
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9500? :o aw sayang naman 7k lang budget ko :'(
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sir ano palang pinagkaiba ng euros8 sa euros6 aside sa color?
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sir ano palang pinagkaiba ng euros8 sa euros6 aside sa color?
As I recall masmalaki ang cabinet ng euros8 + rated @150wpc vs euros6 @100wpc both at 6ohms. Color Pareto lang sila meron black and silver dati
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ah, pero yung woofers parehas lang 6.5 in?
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Just got a pair of Euros 6 speakers... Sa audition palang ang ganda na ng tunog lalo na nung pinatugtog yung kay Sitti ;D ;D ;D
Pag uwi ko sa bahay tinest ko kagad sa gainclone ko, airy siya pero walang bass? ??? pati sa jvc amp ko hindi rin ganun kalalim, tinest ko rin baka mali lang sa polarity pero ganun parin... or baka sanay lang ako sa bass ng jbl GT5-12 ko? Anyway, pag sa music naman na may vocals ok na ok siya, habang nilalakasan yung volume lumalawak yung tunog ;D ;D ;D
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Just got a pair of Euros 6 speakers... Sa audition palang ang ganda na ng tunog lalo na nung pinatugtog yung kay Sitti ;D ;D ;D
Pag uwi ko sa bahay tinest ko kagad sa gainclone ko, airy siya pero walang bass? ??? pati sa jvc amp ko hindi rin ganun kalalim, tinest ko rin baka mali lang sa polarity pero ganun parin... or baka sanay lang ako sa bass ng jbl GT5-12 ko? Anyway, pag sa music naman na may vocals ok na ok siya, habang nilalakasan yung volume lumalawak yung tunog ;D ;D ;D
di patas ang laban, you're comparing the bass of a sub to a midwoofer. ;D another thing is, assuming same xmax (which in reality lamang pa rin ang gt5), you need 4 6 inchers to match the displacement of a 12 incher.
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9500? :o aw sayang naman 7k lang budget ko :'(
dati 6k lang. with that price tag i'd go for a wharfedale diamond 9.3. but that's just me...
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dati 6k lang. with that price tag i'd go for a wharfedale diamond 9.3. but that's just me...
6.4k ko po nakuha, ayos na ayos na entry level music/ht speaker, saka yung habol ko rin sa kanya eh yung size ng drivers and yung built niya mukhang di tinipid
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Just got a pair of Euros 6 speakers... Sa audition palang ang ganda na ng tunog lalo na nung pinatugtog yung kay Sitti ;D ;D ;D
Pag uwi ko sa bahay tinest ko kagad sa gainclone ko, airy siya pero walang bass? ??? pati sa jvc amp ko hindi rin ganun kalalim, tinest ko rin baka mali lang sa polarity pero ganun parin... or baka sanay lang ako sa bass ng jbl GT5-12 ko? Anyway, pag sa music naman na may vocals ok na ok siya, habang nilalakasan yung volume lumalawak yung tunog ;D ;D ;D
depende rin sa program material, yung sa akin naririnig ko yung kick drum, tube amp na 12 watter ang gamit ko...hindi nga lang malakas, pero dinig...
beatles song ang pinapakinggan ko....
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Just got a pair of Euros 6 speakers... Sa audition palang ang ganda na ng tunog lalo na nung pinatugtog yung kay Sitti ;D ;D ;D
Pag uwi ko sa bahay tinest ko kagad sa gainclone ko, airy siya pero walang bass? ??? pati sa jvc amp ko hindi rin ganun kalalim, tinest ko rin baka mali lang sa polarity pero ganun parin... or baka sanay lang ako sa bass ng jbl GT5-12 ko? Anyway, pag sa music naman na may vocals ok na ok siya, habang nilalakasan yung volume lumalawak yung tunog ;D ;D ;D
change ur amp! look for a higher power! power hungry ang euros, mine is euros 8 warm high compare sa JBL control now which is crisp highs... euros for music, JBL for movies... look for an old yamaha RXV995 you will know what i mean. Yamaha amps are fat on bass if thats what your looking for...
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Just got a pair of Euros 6 speakers... Sa audition palang ang ganda na ng tunog lalo na nung pinatugtog yung kay Sitti ;D ;D ;D
Pag uwi ko sa bahay tinest ko kagad sa gainclone ko, airy siya pero walang bass? ??? pati sa jvc amp ko hindi rin ganun kalalim, tinest ko rin baka mali lang sa polarity pero ganun parin... or baka sanay lang ako sa bass ng jbl GT5-12 ko? Anyway, pag sa music naman na may vocals ok na ok siya, habang nilalakasan yung volume lumalawak yung tunog ;D ;D ;D
congrats on your purchase. re-issue nga daw ang euros6 kya meron ulit yung classic model. :)
try to change your amp. sa pairing siguro yan. ;)
i bet you won't need subs for music listening if you drive your speakers right. Ayt?! ;D
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Narealize ko 1pc cat5 cable lang pala yung gamit kong speaker wire para sa isang channel :o, nung dinagdagan ko ng cat5 (1pair per channel +-) medyo um-ok na yung bass... using encore enma for source and an old jvc amp kuntento nako sa sound niya for music, yun nga lang I have to tame the highs kasi medyo malakas yung kalansing niya(as per my preference) @flat equalizer settings
I agree I have to buy a better and more powerful amp para dito, sayang yung lm3875 gainclone ko malinaw sana siya saka sweet sounding kaso manipis yung tunog ??? unlike sa jvc amp fat sound pero colorated naman, saka di kasing linaw ng gc ;D...
btw ang sarap niyang lakasan ;D ;D ;D di ka mapapahiya sa makakarinig :)
give yourself a brake - use heavier wire gauge#12 at least. Sayang ang mga gears mo when one of the components (size of wire) is not taken cared of. Mura lang naman sa mga electrical ang wires!
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Ok sana tong euros6 pero di ko gusto yung highs niya pag pop-mainstream, imbes na tssik tssik tssik yung tunog hsss hsss hsss siya sobrang nipis... dominant yung upper highs niya... walang lower highs ??? ???, pag pinalo yung cymbals hindi rin metallic yung sound niya puro ssss lang...
My ratings for this speaker (1-lowest, 5-highest) using lm3875 gainclone + jbl gt5-12 subwoofer
classical - ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
rock - ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
pop/hiphop/rnb - :( :(
acoustic songs - ;D ;D ;D ;D
movies - ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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available pa ba mga euros6 speakers sa megamall? meron kasi akong floorstander at center na euros6 eh, balak ko sana buoin na at bumili ng bookshelf at subs. magkano kaya price? salamat!
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available pa ba mga euros6 speakers sa megamall? meron kasi akong floorstander at center na euros6 eh, balak ko sana buoin na at bumili ng bookshelf at subs. magkano kaya price? salamat!
Walang bookshelfs ng euros6 nung last kong punta dun, nakareserved daw yung last pair kay sir tony ???. PL100 lang yung andun ok din ang taba ng tunog, warm saka hindi sibilant, pero di rin malalim yung bass (sa vocals lang tinest). 3.5k yung price at mukhang last price na...
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nakareserved daw yung last pair kay sir tony
hindi ako yon :D
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meron akong Euros 8 BS saka Euros 8 Center for sale ndi ko na kasi nagagamit, 8.5k set ill post pics kung gusto nyo.
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How's the sound of US-503?
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Makikigaya din ako kay monreq... lol ;D
Youtube vid of euros 6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXOQMQi-ihM&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL)
No eq was done. Ganyan siya ka-bright in person kaya not every song eh bagay sa kanya, pero sa movies mas trip ko yung ma-treble..
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nice video
smooth sound...
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mga sir am planning to assssemble a diy
daichi speaker, do they also sell crossover network?
plan ko mga guru is a big open baffle speaker
probly a 12inch woofer matchinng mid and tweeter..
any suggestions
thanks
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mga sir am planning to assssemble a diy
daichi speaker, do they also sell crossover network?
plan ko mga guru is a big open baffle speaker
probly a 12inch woofer matchinng mid and tweeter..
any suggestions
thanks
yes.....350 to 450 ang price range
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thank you sir tony
ill try posting pic pagnatapos ko na ang project
and maybe post din sa YouTube then everybody will
and magkakaroon na ng pinoydvd channel sa youtube
at kasalanan ito ni siir monreq ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D IDOL!
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mga sir newbie lng d2 sa pinoy dvd ask ko lng po if pano ko ma iimproved ung vocal ng setup ko kc parang nabibitin ako sa mid puro highs ang nririnig ko pti bass??? eto po gamit kong speaker
2 dai ichi 150w ndt-25
4 konzert 150w RKM-50M
2 dai ichi 180w PRO PW-100
ang setup ko po is nka usb soundcard po ko na creative "SB x-fi sorround 5.1" sa laptop tapos pioneer na compo pra dun sa front ko then pilyo amp 4v2 and sub...
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/320007_313051832043597_100000163492497_1503179_50174065_n.jpg)
TIA po!! ::) ::) ::)
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mga sir newbie lng d2 sa pinoy dvd ask ko lng po if pano ko ma iimproved ung vocal ng setup ko kc parang nabibitin ako sa mid puro highs ang nririnig ko pti bass??? eto po gamit kong speaker
2 dai ichi 150w ndt-25
4 konzert 150w RKM-50M
2 dai ichi 180w PRO PW-100
ang setup ko po is nka usb soundcard po ko na creative "SB x-fi sorround 5.1" sa laptop tapos pioneer na compo pra dun sa front ko then pilyo amp 4v2 and sub...
TIA po!! ::) ::) ::)
Taasan mo yung 250hz-1khz sa equalizer :)
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Magkakaiba ng sensitivity yan tweeter midrange saka woofer mo, dalawa pa yung mid. Magdownload ka sir ng pang measure ng frequency response ng speaker like trueRTA or REW para makita mo kung ilang db yung kailangan i-attenuate sa tweeter saka woofer, then lagyan mo ng LPad yung circuit ng tweeter at woofer para mabawasan yung bass at kalansing niyan..
http://www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-Lpad.htm (http://www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-Lpad.htm)
Less distortion din at mas maganda yung tunog kung hiwalay ng chamber yang mid sa woofer.
Maganda siguro kung gawa ka ng thread or lipat ka sa diy speaker thread para ma-tackle yung mga pre-requisite na knowledge para sa speaker box building...
Or kung gusto mo ng easy way, hanap ka ng tested diy loudspeaker designs.. eto mga sample.
http://diyaudioprojects.com/ (http://diyaudioprojects.com/)
http://zaphaudio.com/ (http://zaphaudio.com/)
Check mo rin kay rod elliot kung pano makuha yung accurate na impendance niyang speaker mo pati narin thiel/small para matweak mo yang crossover saka box niyan...
http://sound.westhost.com/articles.htm (http://sound.westhost.com/articles.htm)
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Taasan mo yung 250hz-1khz sa equalizer :)
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Magkakaiba ng sensitivity yan tweeter midrange saka woofer mo, dalawa pa yung mid. Magdownload ka sir ng pang measure ng frequency response ng speaker like trueRTA para makita mo kung ilang db yung kailangan i-attenuate sa tweeter saka woofer, then lagyan mo ng LPad yung circuit ng tweeter at woofer para mabawasan yung bass at kalansing niyan..
http://www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-Lpad.htm (http://www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-Lpad.htm)
Less distortion din at mas maganda yung tunog kung hiwalay ng chamber yang mid sa woofer.
Maganda siguro kung gawa ka ng thread or lipat ka sa diy speaker thread para ma-tackle yung mga pre-requisite na knowledge para sa speaker building...
Or kung gusto mo ng easy way, hanap ka ng tested diy loudspeaker designs.. eto mga sample.
http://diyaudioprojects.com/ (http://diyaudioprojects.com/)
http://zaphaudio.com/ (http://zaphaudio.com/)
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Guys, tanung ko lang kung bukas pa ba yun dai-ichi showroom sa sm north edsa???
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Mga bro anong shop sa raon my pinkamura rate ng speakers(fs, center, surrounds) n dai ichi? Tia
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Mga bro anong shop sa raon my pinkamura rate ng speakers(fs, center, surrounds) n dai ichi? Tia
dai-chi mega look for john, he has the best price!
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5 years ago i contacted dai-ichi asking for T/S params, got no reply... last week i asked where to find X-652C, got their reply... bought the items (3 sets) and did the T/S params test myself... Result - of all the 6 woofers none of them have the same T/S, same as the separate tweeters :(
X-652C T/S: (average per set)
Fs: 69.31 Hz
Qts: 0.817
Vas: 0.3507 ft3
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Hi all! tama ba nabasa ko sa thread na to? 9500 lang ang Dai-ichi Euros 6BL floorstander? per piece ba yun o pair na?
makabisita nga sa Dai-ichi, Mega sa susunod na restday... ;)
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wrong, 6.5 lang per pair, merong for sale dito 5.5k lang baka abutan mo pa...
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Hi sirs. Long time lurker here. First post...
I'm looking for fullrange speakers locally and found a pair of Dai-chi 6.5" speakers at a shop in Laguna, here's the model:
65f-02a
http://www.daiichielectronics.com.ph/ferritespeakers.html (near the bottom)
Only specs I've found so far is what's written on that page. Too limited details though.
Question here is have someone tried these speakers before? Any notes on these?
Thanks in advance sirs.
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Guys, tanung ko lang kung bukas pa ba yun dai-ichi showroom sa sm north edsa???
Hindi na. It had a short run lang.
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mukhang eto na ulit takbuhan for cheap speakers ah.
6.5k? nice
(http://www.daiichielectronics.com.ph/images/EUROS-6BL.jpg)
good looking bs too. i'm guessing in the 2k to 3k range?
(http://www.daiichielectronics.com.ph/images/us-11c.jpg)
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mukhang eto na ulit takbuhan for cheap speakers ah.
6.5k? nice
(http://www.daiichielectronics.com.ph/images/EUROS-6BL.jpg)
good looking bs too. i'm guessing in the 2k to 3k range?
(http://www.daiichielectronics.com.ph/images/us-11c.jpg)
notice the tip-toes in the Euros6, who else sells this cheap with that feature? these tiptoes can be adjusted to level the towers on uneven floors.....mura na meron pang attention to deatials...saan ka pa? :D :D :D
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saan ba nakakabili ng ganyan bookshelf? may specs ba tayo diyan?
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^looks like a 4" mid
US-11C Specifications
Type
Power Handling
Impedance
Frequency Response
Sensitivity
Dimension
2-Way Bookshelf Speaker
65 Watts
6 Ohms
128 - 20k Hz
89dB@1w/1m
133W x 137H x 230D (mm)
Features
• Professional Terminals • Fine Wood-Textured Vinyl Laminated cabinet
pasado sa PRC! ;D
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those BS will make a good satelite speakers for a 2.1 system....yummmy..... ;D :D
pair that with a marcopilyo jbl 12incher and your'e in bussiness.... :D
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128 - 20KHz
hindi kaya medyo bitin... di ako pwede magdala ng sub sa office eh. hindi din pwede yun FS nila hehehe...
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wrong, 6.5 lang per pair, merong for sale dito 5.5k lang baka abutan mo pa...
Sulit na sulit to @ 6.5k sa built palang pa curve na at may spikes pa,
and yung sound nito sa movies realistic talaga,... you have to wait nga lang para mag tame ang highs nito medyo hissy kasi to pag bago, and for the bass you need a subwoofer...
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meron bang fullrange driver ang dai-ichi? :)
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i am looking for a good set of videoke speakers and a forum member is suggesting a Euros 6 FS:
(http://www.daiichielectronics.com.ph/images/EUROS-6BL.jpg)
planning to use the zone2 of an Onkyo 609 for these speakers.
any comments? or should i stick with videoke speakers?
(http://www.daiichielectronics.com.ph/images/kr-120.jpg)
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Videoke speaker kung gusto mong ilagay outdoor at kung portability ang habol mo.. otherwise yung euros6 nalang... maganda kasi ang vocals ng euros6
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Remember the DTX series speakers.
I have one of those and need to change the tweeter in one of the towers, including the mesh/net covering in another one.
Any idea how much it would cost?
How long it would take?
Where should I bring it or where are the drop off points?
Thanks
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those BS will make a good satelite speakers for a 2.1 system....yummmy..... ;D :D
pair that with a marcopilyo jbl 12incher and your'e in bussiness.... :D
how about a pair Euros 6 FS with marco's sub?
EUROS-6BL
Frequency Response: 20 - 20k Hz
Sensitivity: 89dB @ 1w/1m
its frequency response seems wide enough for use even without a sub. ::)
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@egzbuen
You can bring your Dai-ichi speakers for repair to 160 F. Mariano Ave., Dela Paz, Pasig City
I just got my bookshelf BS-510 yesterday that I had for repair. Initially, I reported a non-working tweeter but turned out that they repaired my woofer as well, I was told that though the woofer is still working, may sayad na daw so they fixed it as well. The entire service cost me P300 for the repair of 2pcs tweeter and 2pcs woofer. I sent the speakers May 30th and got it June 5th. You can also bring the speakers for repair in Megamall but it will take longer, probably additional 2-4days. -HTH
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gud pm, as my username says, newbie po ako when it comes to HT Speakers, i just bought the other day from dai mega a pair of euro 6 towers, a pair of SA 400 sorrounds, PL 110 center, and a euros 8" sub... ok po ba yung combination? and has anyone tried it with a pioneer vsx 520 receiver? right now im using a JBL scs series and medyo bitin yung sound nya specially sa audio cd's, sa movies ok na rin sya.
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how about a pair Euros 6 FS with marco's sub?
EUROS-6BL
Frequency Response: 20 - 20k Hz
Sensitivity: 89dB @ 1w/1m
its frequency response seems wide enough for use even without a sub. ::)
i am using a Euros6 myself, i never felt any need for subs, but that doesn't mean that i can not use subs when i want to.....i might try that one day...
ss amp for subs, and a 12watter tube amp for the Euros6......
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gud pm, as my username says, newbie po ako when it comes to HT Speakers, i just bought the other day from dai mega a pair of euro 6 towers, a pair of SA 400 sorrounds, PL 110 center, and a euros 8" sub... ok po ba yung combination? and has anyone tried it with a pioneer vsx 520 receiver? right now im using a JBL scs series and medyo bitin yung sound nya specially sa audio cd's, sa movies ok na rin sya.
get the more higher-end amp of yamaha. then you will unleash the sound of your dai speakers. been using euros 8 towers with an old RXV 995 yamaha ever since for my audio and it never failed me on loudness and clarity.
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Magkano na ba SRP ng Euro6 ngayon?
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get the more higher-end amp of yamaha. then you will unleash the sound of your dai speakers. been using euros 8 towers with an old RXV 995 yamaha ever since for my audio and it never failed me on loudness and clarity.
:)
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get the more higher-end amp of yamaha. then you will unleash the sound of your dai speakers. been using euros 8 towers with an old RXV 995 yamaha ever since for my audio and it never failed me on loudness and clarity.
naku malamang hi end din ang presyo nyan, i am not that familiar with stores selling yamaha except at western and sm appliance center? is it still available and how much ???...i was thinking of buying a pioneer vsx 921, costs around 29k... baka kako bumaba pa pagdating ng 922 model... anyway, thank you very much for the info.... :)
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Magkano na ba SRP ng Euro6 ngayon?
6500/ pair daw. :)
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6500/ pair daw. :)
Ngayon ko lang nakita, nasa post pala ni ZYZZ ang price.
Thanks :)
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dumaan ako kanina sa showroom ng daiichi sa megamall. out of stock pala ang Euros 6 floorstander. :(
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meron ditong binebenta na euros6 recently baka available pa...
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Mga bros..need help naman about US Audio sub or sub na pwede ikabit Jamo 5.0 speakers ko. Sira na kasi amplifier ko..medyo wala pa budget to buy a receiver..I saw that Dai-chi has a sub na pwede kabitan ng 5 ch speaker para maging 5.1. Any suggestions? Buhay pa ba yung store nito sa Raon?
Thanks in advance from you guys!
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Mga bros..need help naman about US Audio sub or sub na pwede ikabit Jamo 5.0 speakers ko. Sira na kasi amplifier ko..medyo wala pa budget to buy a receiver..I saw that Dai-chi has a sub na pwede kabitan ng 5 ch speaker para maging 5.1. Any suggestions? Buhay pa ba yung store nito sa Raon?
Thanks in advance from you guys!
May shop sila sa Megamall. Sa Raon naman, puwede kang mag-ikot kasi baka sa iba meron.
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Guys, any ideas on how much is the subwoofer na US Audio 512? And kung san mura makabili? Thanks!
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Guys, any ideas on how much is the subwoofer na US Audio 512? And kung san mura makabili? Thanks!
Around 8-9k.. Try listening room in megamall
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Sirs,
user review naman dyan ng US Audio 512...
wala ako makita sa net e.
ty
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Sirs,
user review naman dyan ng US Audio 512...
wala ako makita sa net e.
ty
The US Audio 512 is a very good starting sub. Gumagapang ang bass at maganda ang box finish (black ash). If you are starting/building your first sound system and are on a budget, this is highly recommended. Of course, until the upgrade itch arrives :)
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sorry mali....US Audio 508 pala.
Any user review ng 508?
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What happened to this thread?
Aren't they (speakers) good enough anymore for?
I am in the market right now to start another entry-level basic 5.1 set-up in another room, would you guys still recommend this?
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yes...
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after more than 10 years, still happy with my pair of CT-523H. i recently improved their placement and isolation resulting in tighter bass. they sing great with my yamaha amp.
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What happened to this thread?
Aren't they (speakers) good enough anymore for?
I am in the market right now to start another entry-level basic 5.1 set-up in another room, would you guys still recommend this?
I would still humbly recommend Dai Ichi, Sir. I was there the other day. They have a new model that just came out. The floorstanders are massive in size. Curved cabinets are similar in shape to diamond 9 & 10 series. The smaller one was as big as my euros 6's. The bigger one I would estimate to be at least 4 feet tall. Both have 5 drivers, 6 inch woofers for the former and 8 inch woofers for the latter. More or less at 15k and 18k respectively. Bookshelf speakers are 4 inch single drivers.
There's also a new us audio 12' sub. Grey finish with volume control/dial in front.
Can't say a thing about the sound though. According to them, they had no amp powerful enough to drive them properly. ???
I'd recommend their products, but not their customer service. Well, at their Megamall store at least. But that's another topic. >:D
Anyway, I've had my Euros 6's for 3 years now. Can't say I'm not satisfied. ;)
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A serious customer will have to bring his gear. It will be silly to buy something unheard or reviewed.
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Anyway, I've had my Euros 6's for 3 years now. Can't say I'm not satisfied. ;)
very satisfied....
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Some 20+ odd years ago I built a FS using Targa woofers that were 8ohms.
They sounded and still sound very very nice.
And they're very tough as well.
They're one of my favorite speakers.
(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd155/batoy1911/Targa_zpsb0a89f87.jpg)
(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd155/batoy1911/Speaker_DIY_FS2_zpse40ff73f.jpg)
I'm thinking of an MTM with side firing 10" sub and planned to use TARGA sub drivers.
I called Dai-Ichi Mega, they don't have them anymore :'(
They have a very nice 10" sub but its 4ohms :-\
Wish they still have those 8ohm Targa Sub drivers.
(BTW, the lady at the other end of the line was very nice to talk to...)
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Nice nice.
I have another room running on Dai Chi's DTX series and have no complaints. Was just wondering about their current or existing releases nowadays.
Budget wise for the extra entry-level 5.1 HT, it appears that what will fit the bill is either dia chi or the AAudio Genesis series.
Which one would be my best bet?
Cheers
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You ask here the answer will be Dai-ichi. Ask at AA thread, the answer will be AA. Para walang tampuhan keep this thread about Dai-ichi.
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You ask here the answer will be Dai-ichi. Ask at AA thread, the answer will be AA. Para walang tampuhan keep this thread about Dai-ichi.
That is exactly the reason why I asked here, I wanna see if there are Dai Chi users who have both Dai Chi and AA, or Dai Ichi users who have gone AA and/or vise versa.
Just like asking my friends who are members of the Fortuner club, even if they are die-hard members and who love their own, they recommend something else. I think that would be an unbiased advise/review/comment.
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i do not really value any reviews or comments done by another...
i also refrain from making reviews....very highly subjective....
if i say such gear is very good and you listen to it and
found it is not to your liking, then you might call me a liar...:D
the best thing to do is to hear it by yourself,
and then from your own opinions...
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I am lazy. I often go by reviews. But I review the reviewer. I pay more attention to credibly offended reviewers rather than overly enthusiastic noobs.
But I do understand what you are saying. I look at my decade old posts and laugh. Embarassed even. But as I always say, my ears are as good as my last great audition. Live and learn.
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I'm thinking of an MTM with side firing 10" sub and planned to use TARGA sub drivers.
I called Dai-Ichi Mega, they don't have them anymore :'(
They have a very nice 10" sub but its 4ohms :-\
Wish they still have those 8ohm Targa Sub drivers.
(BTW, the lady at the other end of the line was very nice to talk to...)
Sir there are many of the new Targa subs in Raon. The X-100i (10" 4ohm/300w single voice coil) or X-100i DVC (10" 4ohm/300w dual voice coil) have a very nice construction. Diecast aluminum basket, stitched rubber surround, gold-plated terminals.
You can get the DVC and do a "series" wiring to convert at 8 ohm load like pictured below.
(http://www.the12volt.com/12voltimages/1_4ohm_dvc_8ohm.gif)
I bought the smaller Targa (X-80i DVC) and replaced the 8" (nearly) busted subwoofer of my powered sub in my DJ studio. Bass punch and deepness is so much better than the older one (when it was still working well). I got it from Raon (P1,650) and it was so much cheaper from the Dai-Ichi store in Megamall.
Here's how the x-series subwoofer look like.
X-80
(http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa371/richcong/X-80.jpg)
X-100
(http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa371/richcong/X-100.jpg)
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^can you tell us price range?
Dai-ichi is an OEM for overseas branded speaker drivers, naturally they get the technology in the process...
last i heard, they were running Martin Logans' bantay sarado nga lang....
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But I do understand what you are saying. I look at my decade old posts and laugh. Embarassed even. But as I always say, my ears are as good as my last great audition. Live and learn.
i look at my decades old posts too and same thing, "did I say that?" was my reaction...:D
but i have tried to be consistent from day 1...
today i am more tolerant of other people's views....:D
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^can you tell us price range?
Dai-ichi is an OEM for overseas branded speaker drivers, naturally they get the technology in the process...
last i heard, they were running Martin Logans' bantay sarado nga lang....
The X-80i is 1,500 while the DVC is 1,650. The X-100i is 2,200 and the DVC is 2,300. I think the x-120i (12") is about 2.8k. Those prices are from two stores in Raon. I forgot the store names already but there are a lot of stores there selling them. You'll just have to go around to canvas and see which of them sells at the cheapest price. If I remember correctly, the X-100i is being sold at Dai-Ichi in Megamall for 2.8k.
I'm actually planning on building a DIY sub and use two x-100i (two 4ohms units, wired in series to convert to 8ohms). I already have a design for the box (downfire ported). I'm just looking for a nice plate amp to drive them.
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Thank you so much for the info & picts, sir nicadraus.
Nice Targas!
Now I know what to look for.
BTW. IIRC, there is a distortion issue when connecting speakers in series.
Regards,
batoy
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yup sir jo, meron silang 12" nito JBL GTO 1202D (2ohm/vc) saka 1204D (4ohm/vc), ang available yata sa atin yung 1202D nasa 3k sa mall...
specs can be found on www.jbl.com
heres a sample of JBL GTO 12" 1204 in a BP enclosure:
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/GTO1204BP.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/jbldualbp.jpg)
Sir, new lang ako d2. pwede po bang malaman kung saang mall mo nakita na makabili nitong GTO 1202D at magkano na kaya ngayon. interesado kc ako sa sub na ito e. Tnx.
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@MyShepherd46
those JBL pre-loaded sub boxes won't sound good if used for home theater. they're mean't for car audio.
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phased-out na ang 1202d, afaik the new version is 1204, single 4 ohm coil. mga 3k siguro. teka OT na tayo, daiichi thread ito.
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FYI...
X-100i DVC is 2k each at the Mega Mall Dai-Ichi store.
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Sirs any suggestion on ceiling speakers na dai-ichi brand? How much and where can i get them. Will use them as back sorrounds. Thanks.
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Sirs any suggestion on ceiling speakers na dai-ichi brand? How much and where can i get them. Will use them as back sorrounds. Thanks.
try the Daiichi showroom at the 5th floor of SM MegaMall.
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Sirs any suggestion on ceiling speakers na dai-ichi brand? How much and where can i get them. Will use them as back sorrounds. Thanks.
tingin ka sa showroom sa megamall then order ka sa deeco para mas mura. hth ;)
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sir sorry for my ignorance but san yung DEECO? Any do you know how much they cost?
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any idea how much po sa Deeco?
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FYI...
Got a chance to go to Deeco the other day.
The x100 dvc was 1,850@ at Deeco.
I was told that it was on sale...
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sir sorry for my ignorance but san yung DEECO? Any do you know how much they cost?
Thye used to have a branch in Cubao, Farmers to be specific. Let us wait for an update from the others.
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deeco cubao? ang alam ko naroon pa rin sila, i was there about 3 weeks ako...
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Nabili ko yung akin sa Deeco Raon.
Kung alam ko lang na merong Deeco Cubao, dun nalang sana ako bumili at malapit na sa Bus Terminal.
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of course more choices pag sa Raon ka pumunta, hindi lang naman deeco ang merong magagandang speakers...
i suspect mas makakamura...
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Thye used to have a branch in Cubao, Farmers to be specific. Let us wait for an update from the others.
I was in Deeco Famer's Farmer's just last weekend. You'll have more choices in Deeco Quiapo, though. Not to mention the other stores there besides Deeco.
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been to deeco quiapo, wala ba talagang yari na daichi speakers as in yung talagang gawa na? ready to plug in.
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^ Meron sa ibang stores along Raon and nearby streets kung wala sa Deeco.
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yup, magikot-ikot ka sa vicity ng Raon marmi kang makikita at maraming pagpipilian...
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sige po try ko bukas. by the way, ok ba yung bookshelves ng dai-ichi? interested iin getting the ds52. ok ba yung bass punch nya as well as clarity ng sounds?
pwede ba to sa lepai lp2020a+ t-amp?
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I would still humbly recommend Dai Ichi, Sir. I was there the other day. They have a new model that just came out. The floorstanders are massive in size. Curved cabinets are similar in shape to diamond 9 & 10 series. The smaller one was as big as my euros 6's. The bigger one I would estimate to be at least 4 feet tall. Both have 5 drivers, 6 inch woofers for the former and 8 inch woofers for the latter. More or less at 15k and 18k respectively. Bookshelf speakers are 4 inch single drivers.
That's stiff pricing. Already competing with known brands. I guess these are the second generation Euros 8 which are very hard to find nowadays as nobody seems to want to sell theirs. I got my Euros 8 at 7,500 for a pair of huge floorstanders. Let's hope they bring it down to that level again.
What are the new models called?
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That's stiff pricing. Already competing with known brands. I guess these are the second generation Euros 8 which are very hard to find nowadays as nobody seems to want to sell theirs. I got my Euros 8 at 7,500 for a pair of huge floorstanders. Let's hope they bring it down to that level again.
What are the new models called?
I was there yesterday. The new models are called D-6 and D-8. In relation to the driver sizes I suppose. These are in their audition area but no go on audition due to lack of a proper amp according to salesmen. So no idea regarding SQ. Physically, finish is decent. No rebranding done. It has a big-a$$ silver DAI-ICHI logo on the grilles. :)
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Anyone who was able to avail of the Xmas sale? Are there any left at either branch?
Thanks.
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can anybody help me here?i have a daichi woofer...60 watts po siya i was wondering ilang watts po na resistor ang kailangan ko...sana may marunong magcompute dito...thanks guys
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can anybody help me here?i have a daichi woofer...60 watts po siya i was wondering ilang watts po na resistor ang kailangan ko...sana may marunong magcompute dito...thanks guys
You try this site: http://www.diyaudioandvideo.com/Tutorial/SpeakerBox/, or just buy a crossover in Raon , just a suggestion.
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Hi Folks. New Member here! Medyo may sakit ndin, pero hanggang audition plng ngayon. XD Been to dai-ichi mega, in search for FS. Ayun, yung PL 55 nlng nandun nsa 5-10k range. Wla nang euros (I like it's aesthetics better)... :-[ Meron silng bagong line up. Ung D series. D-6 lng ung naaudition ko dun. Ganda ng tunog. Ung build, superb... Very good entry level. As good as the wharfs I guess? Hirap i-pin point kung di k magbabad tlga...
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been to deeco quiapo, wala ba talagang yari na daichi speakers as in yung talagang gawa na? ready to plug in.
Studio acoustics (Gawa to ng dai-ichi, dame dun, eto yung majority ng speaks dun n dai-ichi e.), meron din sa labas ung mga stall dun sa raon o ronguillo st. Tintago lng nila, itatanong mo lng. pero kdalsn ung mga panget n model un e. S megamall may showroom sila dun. 4thflr? mega b. mlpit sa yamaha and perfect pitch. Dun k magaudition then blik kng raon ipaorder mo dun (Wla silng display, ipapaorder mo p tlga.). Mas mura dun eh. Pero ndi nila ipprinig sayo kung di mo sure n bibilhin. Kaya diskartihan lng. Audition sa mega, bile sa raon. haha. XD
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Ang malas naman nag hanap din ako ng EUROS-6BL
EUROS-6CBL
no luck wala ng ganun anu pa po ba ang maiirecommend po ninyo sakin para sa home theater?
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Magkano ang dai ichi 40F-01 SF?
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I'd like to up this thread.
Im starting to canvass for 5.1 HT possibilities under 35. Im more or less done with HTiB options.
Had the time to visit Dai-ichi megamall this week. The attendants were accommodating on demoes.
When I asked for a basic 5.1 build, their reco,
US508A - 7700
US10CC - 2000
DS52 - 3000
PL10/502 -6300
I know these will be a lot cheaper in Raon. I contacted the raon store we bought a videoke system recently, and the 508 is already 30% cheaper there.
Why wouldnt Mega's shop at least get close to Raon's prices?
Any reviews of any of these models?
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please quote naman po Studio Acoustic Euros 8 floorstand speaker. TIA
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Makakabili pa rin ba sa Pasig ng mga drivers nila?
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Can I bump this thread. Ok p dn ba Daichi speakers now? :) musta po floorstanders nila?
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Meron ba dito naka dai-ichi D series speaker, any reviews on this speaker? Price range at raon 10,500 for the front standing pair. Sadly wala pa silang stock nito gagawa pa raw ang dai-ichi philippines pag meron ng order from there client abroad