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Title: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Sep 30, 2012 at 05:39 PM
kampihan na!!!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Sep 30, 2012 at 05:58 PM
ano ba yan?
buti na lang walang napatid na player.
kung nagkataon, di pa man nagsisimula, parada pa lang, may na-injure na.
walang kwentang pakulo!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mikz023 on Sep 30, 2012 at 08:29 PM
Nice game by ginebra. Team effort ang pinakita nila. Nice job by the general. He is perfect for this team!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Sep 30, 2012 at 08:32 PM
ginebra played a superb game tonight. however, we must not forget that this is not the same powerade team that made the all filipino cup last year. lassiter and casio are gone. perhaps, bgsm's next game game will be a better gauge at how they might fare this conference.

tenorio, although scoring only two points, still made an impact --- 8 rebounds and 10 assists
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mikz023 on Sep 30, 2012 at 08:38 PM
ginebra played a superb game tonight. however, we must not forget that this is not the same powerade team that made the all filipino cup last year. lassiter and casio are gone. perhaps, bgsm's next game game will be a better gauge at how they might fare this conference.

tenorio, although scoring only two points, still made an impact --- 8 rebounds and 10 assists

Asan na c casio ngaun?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 30, 2012 at 08:54 PM
Asan na c casio ngaun?

Alaska.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Sep 30, 2012 at 08:55 PM
Alaska.

part of the trade deal that sent tenorio to bgsm. casio was initially traded to ginebra.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 30, 2012 at 09:37 PM
New PBA season ...... new players ...... same old Quinito Henson - probably the most clueless sportscaster .... ever.

Quinito has always had enthusiasm ..... but his very shallow & always-the-obvious analysis; not to mention, his no-imagination player monickers - he's becoming more annoying as the years go by.

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BGK's forward lineup is way loaded ...... Maliksi, Ababou, Maierhofer, Ellis, Jensen & Espiritu ...... plus solid vets Hatfield & Wilson.

Tenorio looks to be in high spirits - something he rarely showed with ALASKA the last 2 years.

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Sep 30, 2012 at 09:39 PM
New PBA season ...... new players ...... same old Quinito Henson - probably the most clueless sportscaster .... ever.

Quinito has always had enthusiasm ..... with his shallow & always-the-obvious analysis ...... not to mention, his no-imagination player monickers - he's becoming more annoying as the years go by,

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BGK's forward lineup is way loaded ...... Maliksi, Ababou, Maierhofer, Ellis, Jensen & Espiritu ...... plus solid vets Hatfield & Wilson.

Tenorio looks to be in high spirits - something he rarely showed with ALASKA the last 2 years.

really...very annoying! at sobrang OA. GINeral? what kind of a monicker is that???

and yes, the forward lineup is very loaded. i think ababou, espiritu and wilson was not used tonight.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 30, 2012 at 10:01 PM
Wynne "The Snatcher" Arboleda & Alex "The Crunchman" Cabagnot ....... a few of the recent monickers from Quinito Henson's shallow & ignorant mind.  :o

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We've seen this many times before with BGK ....... they stack themselves with players from a single position - which results to very inconsistent minutes and very confusing player rotations from Tanquincen or Uichico.

Their forward lineup is ultra-loaded (guards, just a few years ago) ....... big risk that Tanquincen will make the same mistakes again.

Expect him to spread the minutes around, rather than keep a tight one - which champion coaches Tim Cone and Chot Reyes will always do. 

BGK should consider trading Espiritu (if the rules allow it) and/or Wilson (while he still has good value).

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: VenoM_Unleashed on Oct 01, 2012 at 02:43 PM
Very Nice PBA 2013 Season TV Commercial  ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSmx53_Vr6k

  8)  8)  O0
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: rafa_palma on Oct 02, 2012 at 04:17 PM
Was Quinito Henson more annoying than those 3 eggheads (Salbakulaw) introducing the teams?  >:(  >:(  >:(
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 02, 2012 at 07:12 PM
Was Quinito Henson more annoying than those 3 eggheads (Salbakulaw) introducing the teams?  >:(  >:(  >:(

I'll give those 3 eggheads a pass ..... they did their job of entertaining the PBA's target crowd.  O0

Quinito Henson ...... he's been shallow and clueless for decades now.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 04, 2012 at 09:25 AM
Jeff Chan playing like Allan Caidic.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Oct 17, 2012 at 04:00 PM
^^ and he is presently the scoring leader.

in other news, June Mar Fajardo will be sidelined for a number of games due to a swollen scrotum, which is the result of the blow he received from Marc Pingris. ouch......

http://ph.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/judgmentcall/swollen-060206652.html (http://ph.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/judgmentcall/swollen-060206652.html)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 19, 2012 at 06:02 PM
Abueva now, alaska vs. Petron.. Playing like a rookie, ginugulangan ni santos and washington.. Hehe..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mattia on Oct 19, 2012 at 06:45 PM
Abueva now, alaska vs. Petron.. Playing like a rookie, ginugulangan ni santos and washington.. Hehe..

Abueva's got 7 points and 11 rebounds with 1 quarter to go.  Malamang double double to.  HERE COMES THE BEAST!!  Abueva gave Washington a mean smirk after nautakan ni Abueva si Washington... 

I really like this guy.  Bring back the old PBA Calvin with your kind of rugged play...
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mattia on Oct 19, 2012 at 06:58 PM
Abueva's got 7 points and 11 rebounds with 1 quarter to go.  Malamang double double to.  HERE COMES THE BEAST!!  Abueva gave Washington a mean smirk after nautakan ni Abueva si Washington... 

I really like this guy.  Bring back the old PBA Calvin with your kind of rugged play...

WOW!  Abueva just hit 5 straight points and Alaska now on the lead.  That was a follow up tip in over Dorian Pena and then a three point shot on the ensuing play.  Abueva now has 12 PTS, 12 REBOUNDS on his first game as a pro.  This guy is for real! 
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 19, 2012 at 07:05 PM
He started slow, but he now got 16 rebounds.. Wow..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mattia on Oct 19, 2012 at 07:18 PM
He started slow, but he now got 16 rebounds.. Wow..

At nanalo pa sila!  That was 12 pts, 16 rebound monster game from the Beast.  Simula pa lang yan.  Wala pang alam sa Triangle offense yan ha!!  Balik PBA na ako after a loooong time... 
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 20, 2012 at 01:05 AM
At nanalo pa sila!  That was 12 pts, 16 rebound monster game from the Beast.  Simula pa lang yan.  Wala pang alam sa Triangle offense yan ha!!  Balik PBA na ako after a loooong time... 

A game like this in the whole elimination I will be a believer, and Alaska winning
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mattia on Oct 20, 2012 at 07:34 AM
ALASKA finally unveiled the “Beast,” and the Aces are suddenly looking fearsome again


http://www.philstar.com/SportsArticle.aspx?articleId=861453&publicationSubCategoryId=69 (http://www.philstar.com/SportsArticle.aspx?articleId=861453&publicationSubCategoryId=69)

“It’s just nice to have Calvin as he brings so much to the team energy-wise. He can play all 1-2-3-4-5 spots. It’s just how you use him. He’s a special breed,” said Trillo of Abueva.

In other words, parang LEBRON JAMES! ;D

In San Sebastian ( where I hated him like the plague ), he played practically the whole 48 minutes but in Alaska, he is paced well and gets quality minutes.  Tama lang na sa PBA na ito.  Ang daming papogi sa PBA masyado nawala na yung dating sigla.  With Abueva around, we get that old "Jawo" gladiator style of game. 
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 20, 2012 at 10:14 AM
Exactly sana bumalik na ung dati.. I remember, patrimonio, asaytono, paras, locsin, etc.. They're nice off the court, pero when playing bangga kung bangga.. They hurt their opponents thru scoring hard.. Naging finesse nung 2000s, di na madefine ung totoong power- power forward, suddenly all are taking 3s na..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 20, 2012 at 05:38 PM
consolation sa pagkatalo ng Ginebra kagabi.. hanap na.. ;D

http://www.interaksyon.com/entertainment/georgina-wilson-launches-sexy-calendar-apologizes-to-nora-aunor-for-mock-photo/
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 26, 2012 at 09:29 PM
another win and 16-12 performance from Abueva.. this time, 16pts 12 rebs in 23 mins.. better shooting as well..

the rookies this year have been impressive especially the unheralded ones.. Global's triumvirate of AJ Mandani, Jason Deutchman and Vic Manuel are proving that they belong in the league.. Raffy Reyes of Alaska (son of Elmer Reyes) is a pretty good back-up.. good outside shooter, strong, can really jump and a pesky defender.. quality minutes binibigay every game..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mattia on Oct 26, 2012 at 10:11 PM
another win and 16-12 performance from Abueva.. this time, 16pts 12 rebs in 23 mins.. better shooting as well..

the rookies this year have been impressive especially the unheralded ones.. Global's triumvirate of AJ Mandani, Jason Deutchman and Vic Manuel are proving that they belong in the league.. Raffy Reyes of Alaska (son of Elmer Reyes) is a pretty good back-up.. good outside shooter, strong, can really jump and a pesky defender.. quality minutes binibigay every game..

And the best player of the game for Abueva.  On his 2nd game as a pro.  WOW.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: yeh-yeh on Oct 26, 2012 at 10:22 PM
abueva is for real, 2nd game in double double figures.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 28, 2012 at 08:51 PM
Ginebra badly needs a new coaching staff...
4 straight losses is a very dismal performance for a team with such talent...

tsk tsk tsk ???

Congrats to Alaska...
Baguio, Casio, Jazul and Abueva are starting to gel. Other teams should start worrying... ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 28, 2012 at 09:01 PM
Ginebra now on a 4-game losing streak while Alaska in a 4-game winning streak.. Abueva just missed another double-double with 19pts-9rebs and no TOs in 29mins .. very efficient game from Calvin..

ang gulo ng opensa ng Ginebra.. they've got no post game.. wala silang consistent shooters.. pick and roll nila magulo din.. panget rin ng spacing kaya di effective ang dribble-drive..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 28, 2012 at 09:41 PM

We've seen this many times before with BGK ....... they stack themselves with players from a single position - which results to very inconsistent minutes and very confusing player rotations from Tanquincen or Uichico.

Their forward lineup is ultra-loaded (guards, just a few years ago) ....... big risk that Tanquincen will make the same mistakes again.

Expect him to spread the minutes around, rather than keep a tight one - which champion coaches Tim Cone and Chot Reyes will always do. 

BGK should consider trading Espiritu (if the rules allow it) and/or Wilson (while he still has good value).


Like I said, same old mistakes for BGK ...... minutes are spread around like crazy, without any player getting consistent minutes.

Champion coaches like Tim Cone & Chot Reyes won't care about player or fan sensitivities ..... they'll keep their rotations tight and short, despite their loaded rosters.

Blame falls on everyone here ..... Tanquincen for making his best impression of Jong Uichico's WTF rotations, Noli "Lover Boy" Eala for the never-ending tinkering of the lineups ...... and the players, for their very uninspired play versus ALASKA.

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mattia on Oct 29, 2012 at 07:59 AM
abueva is for real, 2nd game in double double figures.

Abueva had 19 points, topscoring this time for Alaska and 9 rebounds.  I think he also had 3 or 4 assists.  Magaling din magpasa yan so the more he gels with his teammates the more tataas ang assists nyan.  We're looking at triple doubles as the league progresses. 

I watched the game.  Abueva creates plays.  And he can intimidate.  Funny but the way he plays, parang matagal na sya sa PBA.  He has that "gulang" too.  In one of the plays, he gave Ababou or Tenorio the "no look patid" that sent the Ginebra player to the floor.  Huli nga lang ng ref hehehe.  But what I'm saying is he's a rookie, for cryin' out a loud and he does those things?  Damn. 
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Oct 29, 2012 at 12:06 PM
it was a very listless ginebra that played last night. after a blazing 2-0 start, they follow it up with a 4 game losing streak. it would have been fine if their line-up is not loaded. with their line-up, they can have two first fives.

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the first game was controversial. although it is in the rules, and even if Salud explained it (obviously irritated) i still think that what reavis did was goal tending. it's just me...or is it because it was sanmig coffee mixers??  :P

adhering to that rule invites "gulang". any opposing player can just wait for the ball to touch the rim and swat it away afterwards.

(akala ko susuntukin ni rico v. si salud eh.)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: rony on Oct 29, 2012 at 12:35 PM
Sa tingin ko goal tending talaga. Kahit si urbiztondo masama ang loob sa nangyari.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 29, 2012 at 01:08 PM
Sana tanggalin na lang nila yung rule na yun. Interference naman talaga kasi yung ganun...
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on Oct 29, 2012 at 01:16 PM
hindi kasi tumawag si ref
may 2secs lang sana matira sa oras ng coffee
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 29, 2012 at 01:30 PM

the first game was controversial. although it is in the rules, and even if Salud explained it (obviously irritated) i still think that what reavis did was goal tending. it's just me...or is it because it was sanmig coffee mixers??  :P

adhering to that rule invites "gulang". any opposing player can just wait for the ball to touch the rim and swat it away afterwards.

(akala ko susuntukin ni rico v. si salud eh.)

The funny thing about this ...... one of the referees was seen raising his hand; about to signal something ...... then Rafi Reavis RAN AWAY with the basketball with time left on the game clock (!)

What caused the referee to raise his hand and didn't call anything? Why was Reavis not charged with travelling and possession given back to BARAKO?

An even funnier thing about all of this ...... a few players were doing this a few years ago e.g. Arwind Santos & Diamon Simpson (ALASKA import) and both were charged with goal-tending.

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In other PBA news, SMC star player James Yap was NOT suspended by Comm. Cheato Salud after deliberately hacking the head of Jireh Ibanes during their last game against ROS.

http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/face-of-the-pba-james-yap-fined-p6k-after-ejection-escapes-suspension
 
Here's a video of that very blatant, dangerous foul by James Yap.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5NI8LaOFxDE


@Sniper ...... you're right, kampihan na, sabi ni Comm. Cheato Salud.  O0
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 29, 2012 at 03:12 PM
I've seen harder fouls than that.. I'm no James Yap fan but I agree, that didn't warrant a suspension.. and here's a video of why James Yap did that to Jireh.. on the 55:38 mark of this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIP8FHH3JXw), you'll see Yap get hit on the face by a forearm from Jireh..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 29, 2012 at 04:13 PM
I myself have seen harder fouls than that ..... but, I won't belittle Yap's foul just because Ibanes showed resiliency on the hack to his head.

Ibanes didn't have to fall & crumple on the ground for Yap to merit a suspension ..... it doesn't even matter if Ibanes gave out his own cheap shots to Yap, earlier in the game.

James Yap gave out an intentional & legitimate-above-the-shoulder-hit - something which had ALWAYS merited a one-game suspension .... since the tenure of Sonny Barrios up to Salud's term.

I recall one notable and fairly recent example of this ruling :

http://www.pba.ph/news/entry/849

“Swinging of elbow is an illegal act in basketball. And whoever the perpetrator of it will have to
face the consequence,” said Salud of the infraction ALASKA import Williams committed.

Note: L.D. Williams was poked in the eyes and instinctively extended his forearm to protect the ball ..... accidentally hitting Cardona on the neck. Because of the above-the-shoulder-hit, Williams was fined P20,000 & suspended for 1 game - despite the circumstances.



Of course ...... Comm. Cheato Salud has time and again, used another set of standards, when players from certain teams are involved.  O0

 
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Oct 29, 2012 at 04:41 PM
I've seen harder fouls than that.. I'm no James Yap fan but I agree, that didn't warrant a suspension.. and here's a video of why James Yap did that to Jireh.. on the 55:38 mark of this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIP8FHH3JXw), you'll see Yap get hit on the face by a forearm from Jireh..

even if Jireh did that on purpose, personally, i do not find it to be a justification for Yap to retaliate. and that does not serve to mitigate the foul he committed. if every player who commits a flagrant foul on another would say that "he did something to me a while ago first", there will have to be a change of tag line -- from "PBA: Kampihan na!" to "PBA: Gantihan na!".

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 29, 2012 at 04:54 PM
they actually changed the rules on flagrant foul suspensions during the 2009-2010 season.. it became the commissioner's discretion dahil dun sa landing spot rule dati.. it has to be FF Penalty 2 and resulted in a dire consequence..

http://www.pba.ph/blogs/entry/85
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 29, 2012 at 05:02 PM
even if Jireh did that on purpose, personally, i do not find it to be a justification for Yap to retaliate. and that does not serve to mitigate the foul he committed. if every player who commits a flagrant foul on another would say that "he did something to me a while ago first", there will have to be a change of tag line -- from "PBA: Kampihan na!" to "PBA: Gantihan na!".

I'm not saying Yap's actions are justified, I'm just pointing out that the hit was not out of the blue which couldn't be said for most of Yeng Guaio's players.. most hits are in retaliation but if you've followed Yeng Guiao's teams, they're the ones who hit first.. they hit just for the sake of hitting..

and that non-suspension has happened before.. last All-Filipino Finals between Powerade and TNT, Gary David did the same to Jason Castro but it wasn't even called a flagrant..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qEHX05LW8w
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 29, 2012 at 05:31 PM
they actually changed the rules on flagrant foul suspensions during the 2009-2010 season.. it became the commissioner's discretion dahil dun sa landing spot rule dati.. it has to be FF Penalty 2 and resulted in a dire consequence..

http://www.pba.ph/blogs/entry/85

It's the 'discretion' part that worries those "other" teams.   ;)

ALASKA's L.D. Williams case happened just last year ...... the hit was inadvertent (as it was weak) since he was blinded from a poke in the eyes. Despite the circumstances, he was still suspended by Salud.

Earlier this year, PETRON import McDonald threw the ball in Mick Pennisi's head (the flop heard around the world) ...... it was completely intentional, yet mysteriously McDonald wasn't suspended by Salud.

Not a few conferences ago, there were numerous head-hits from PETRON's Cabagnot, Santos, etc during a tough series with TnT ..... yet no suspensions as well. 

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 29, 2012 at 06:18 PM
it's not just SMC but more like the rich teams.. the commissioner's discretion applies favorably to rich teams..

similar to LD Williams' case was the De Ocampo elbow to Sean Anthony in last season's All-Filipino Cup finals.. it even caused a cut over Anthony's eyebrow that needed to be stitched.. Anthony didn't even get to come back in the game but it was just a Flagrant 1.. it was upgraded to Flagrant 2 by Salud with 20K fine but no suspension..

http://www.pba.ph/news/entry/1371
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on Oct 29, 2012 at 06:24 PM
hehe,,,that foul by james was not professional...
pero if you compare it with other masyadong malambot pa un....
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 29, 2012 at 07:26 PM
it's not just SMC but more like the rich teams.. the commissioner's discretion applies favorably to rich teams..

similar to LD Williams' case was the De Ocampo elbow to Sean Anthony in last season's All-Filipino Cup finals.. it even caused a cut over Anthony's eyebrow that needed to be stitched.. Anthony didn't even get to come back in the game but it was just a Flagrant 1.. it was upgraded to Flagrant 2 by Salud with 20K fine but no suspension..

http://www.pba.ph/news/entry/1371

I agree with this ..... that same series, wherein PETRON's Cabagnot, Santos gave hard head-hits, also saw similar hits from TnT players.

Though, I wont be surprised if the leeway given to offenders, was a result of precedence given to "favored" players.

When PETRON's McDonald didn't get suspended for throwing the ball at Pennisi's face (first time the infraction didn't result in suspension), many players and media people half-jokingly tweeted that it's open season on ball-throwing, since future offenders wont get suspended.

Sure enough, a month later SMC's Joe Devance thew the ball to TnT's Raymundo face, in retaliation for a hard foul ..... no suspension.

One thing that Comm. Cheato Salud seems to hate is hot media scrutiny ...... "Hindi ako tanga" said Salud, when it was revealed that POWERADE's initial proposal to trade Marcio Lassiter was an offshoot of the impending sale of the franchise to San Miguel Corp.

Everyone & his mother knew that the only reason Salud vetoed the trade, was due to the media expose ...... like a shrewd Noli Eala, Salud waited a conference for the scrutiny to die down - then approved the deal anyway.  ;D

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Comm. Cheato Salud still hasn't explained why no travelling violation was called on Rafi Reavis during the closing seconds off that controversial game.

Rafi Reavis clearly RAN AWAY (travelled) with the ball with time left on the game clock ...... why the no-call, which would have given BARAKO BULL one more chance to win the game ? 

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mattia on Nov 02, 2012 at 03:49 PM
First acid test for The Beast Abueva later vs leader TnT.  We'll watch this for sure...
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mattia on Nov 02, 2012 at 10:26 PM
What a come from behind win by Alaska via Casio's 10 pt explosion :  Two 3 pt shots and a rare 4 pt play to rally Alaska from 9 pts down in the final minutes.  And of course, it was Abueva's 3 point shot that tied the game.  Tapos another Casio layup for the win, handing Tnt its first loss in the PBA.

Abueva had 14 pts, 5 rebounds, 2 assists, 3 steals, 2 block shots.  Man, this guy can do it all. It's his hustle that rubs off to the other players.  He is now the official leader in rebounds in the PBA, after only 4 games.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Nov 02, 2012 at 10:35 PM
That was one hell of a game! 94-92 for Alaska.

Alaska just stole that game away from TNT behind hot and clutch shooting from Casio and Abueva. Casio scored 10pts in 58 secs (three 3s with 1 being a 4-point play) to give Alaska the lead after being down 12pts in the 4th. Ala-Reggie Miller. Then he made that game-winning layup from a set that resembled the Spurs' winning play against OKC kanina. And that 3 from Abueva to tie the game at 90 was clutch. He fouled out but his impact was felt. 14pts, 5rebs, 5stls, 2blks and a few assists. Guy's for real!

I gotta hand it to Uytengsu for giving his full support to Luigi Trillo. Not really a fan of Luigi but the moves he made with the coaching staff has been brilliant. Hiring Alas and Compton were excellent moves. Alas and Topex know how to handle Abueva. And it's obvious Compton has had a hand on those perimeter plays they keep running.

Luigi's rotation has been on the money in their 5-game winning streak. Starters remain fresh for the endgame because the bench has been solid. He's giving the bench a lot of confidence kaya maganda performance. After the 1st 2 games I thought Luigi was too raw for the PBA. So far, he's showing the opposite. One thing though that's going to hurt Alaska one of these days is rebounding. Almost did them in tonight.

Oh, and that goaltending controversy helped Alaska tonight. That was a block by Williams but I think the refs were scared of another controversy so they blew the whistle.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mattia on Nov 02, 2012 at 10:45 PM
That was one hell of a game! 94-92 for Alaska.

Alaska just stole that game away from TNT behind hot and clutch shooting from Casio and Abueva. Casio scored 10pts in 58 secs (three 3s with 1 being a 4-point play) to give Alaska the lead after being down 12pts in the 4th. Ala-Reggie Miller. Then he made that game-winning layup from a set that resembled the Spurs' winning play against OKC kanina. And that 3 from Abueva to tie the game at 90 was clutch. He fouled out but his impact was felt. 14pts, 5rebs, 5stls, 2blks and a few assists. Guy's for real!

I gotta hand it to Uytengsu for giving his full support to Luigi Trillo. Not really a fan of Luigi but the moves he made with the coaching staff has been brilliant. Hiring Alas and Compton were excellent moves. Alas and Topex know how to handle Abueva. And it's obvious Compton has had a hand on those perimeter plays they keep running.

Luigi's rotation has been on the money in their 5-game winning streak. Starters remain fresh for the endgame because the bench has been solid. He's giving the bench a lot of confidence kaya maganda performance. After the 1st 2 games I thought Luigi was too raw for the PBA. So far, he's showing the opposite. One thing though that's going to hurt Alaska one of these days is rebounding. Almost did them in tonight.

Oh, and that goaltending controversy helped Alaska tonight. That was a block by Williams but I think the refs were scared of another controversy so they blew the whistle.

Maybe Luigi can coach the Lakers!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Nov 02, 2012 at 10:48 PM
He is now the official leader in rebounds in the PBA, after only 4 games.

He isn't, actually. Before tonight, he was. After Arwind grabbed 14rebs earlier and Calvin just had 5, si Arwind uli 1st sa rebounds.

On another note, the PBA supposedly suspended the referee that called that goaltending on Williams earlier..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on Nov 03, 2012 at 12:30 AM

^ Am starting to like Alaska now, I hope they face Rain or Shine soon to see how will the 2 extra rice play against Abueva.. Like watching the beast, ang sipag, kahit san nandun..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Nov 03, 2012 at 12:35 AM
I saw Nic Belasco in Alaska's bench. Just wondering why he hasn't been used at all. He is one player who can do a lot of things both offensively and defensively. Does Alaska consider him too old to keep up with the younger players? Or maybe he just doesn't fit in Alaska's system.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Nov 03, 2012 at 01:16 AM
^ Am starting to like Alaska now, I hope they face Rain or Shine soon to see how will the 2 extra rice play against Abueva.. Like watching the beast, ang sipag, kahit san nandun..

On Wednesday, they play vs. RoS..

I saw Nic Belasco in Alaska's bench. Just wondering why he hasn't been used at all. He is one player who can do a lot of things both offensively and defensively. Does Alaska consider him too old to keep up with the younger players? Or maybe he just doesn't fit in Alaska's system.

Alaska has been playing small ball since that first win.. it's been effective offensively but their rebounding has suffered.. lucky for them though that most teams in the PBA don't really have that post game anymore.. he played earlier just to give Thoss some rest.. you'll probably see more of him and Eman against San Mig Coffee where post players are still present..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 03, 2012 at 08:36 AM
Yup, Belasco has been lost in the Trillo's small-ball rotation ..... not to mention that Belasco has shown little speed in his PBA comeback.

Even TDLC & Baracael's minutes have been eaten up by small-ball (read: The Beast).

ALASKA got a big break with the goal-tending call on Williams ..... I'm beginning to wonder what are the league rules on such scenarios below the last 2 min.

TnT manager Castro claims there are existing rules below 2 min ...... yet last night's game and the BARAKO-SMC game showed no such thing.

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Nov 03, 2012 at 12:35 PM
It's difficult to make a comeback when you're not given enough playing time. Players can't afford to be injured. Unless, you are a big-name superstar, an injury usually means the end of your career.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Nov 04, 2012 at 09:10 PM
Ginebra now on a 5-game slide.. coaching staff has to go.. malas pa nila at na-injure si Dylan Ababou.. I pray it's not an ACL tear cuz' the kid's promising but it looked like it is..

pansin ko lang these past few years, the top picks have been in and out of the lineup in their first few years due to injury.. Casio didn't get to play in the first few games of his rookie year.. Paul Lee is still injured after missing majority of last season's 3rd conference.. Chris Lutz missed almost the entire 2nd conference last season.. Lassiter missed the entire 3rd conference and just recently got back.. tapos ngayong season, Fajardo has just played 3 games.. before that, Al Hussaini suffered an ACL tear on his rookie year.. Maierhofer suffered an ACL tear on his sophomore year..

ang ganda ng mga rookie performances nila pero di matuloy-tuloy kasi na-iinjure kaagad.. I just find it strange that it's the young guys who get injured so fast..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Nov 04, 2012 at 09:20 PM

ang ganda ng mga rookie performances nila pero di matuloy-tuloy kasi na-iinjure kaagad.. I just find it strange that it's the young guys who get injured so fast..

kasi sila ang todo bigay kung maglaro. wala pang masyadong gulang kaya napupwersa. yung mga beterano di na gigil na gigil maglaro.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 05, 2012 at 12:59 AM
Ginebra now on a 5-game slide.. coaching staff has to go.. malas pa nila at na-injure si Dylan Ababou.. I pray it's not an ACL tear cuz' the kid's promising but it looked like it is..

pansin ko lang these past few years, the top picks have been in and out of the lineup in their first few years due to injury.. Casio didn't get to play in the first few games of his rookie year.. Paul Lee is still injured after missing majority of last season's 3rd conference.. Chris Lutz missed almost the entire 2nd conference last season.. Lassiter missed the entire 3rd conference and just recently got back.. tapos ngayong season, Fajardo has just played 3 games.. before that, Al Hussaini suffered an ACL tear on his rookie year.. Maierhofer suffered an ACL tear on his sophomore year..

ang ganda ng mga rookie performances nila pero di matuloy-tuloy kasi na-iinjure kaagad.. I just find it strange that it's the young guys who get injured so fast..

probably because most of the time its all brawn and not brain, mas madali nalalaspag ang mga baguhang player  dahil di pa maingat sa mga galaw nila,some 10 years ago, parang bihirang bihira yata ang nagka ACL.

in previous post, i bravely said di sisikat si abueva sa pba, well im eating my words obviously, but not to mean harm, pag di sya mag iingat at mag pace ng sarili ng tama, baka ang tamang prediction is baka di sya mag tagal, yung mga tulad nya eh very prone to injury
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: rukawakaide1721 on Nov 05, 2012 at 03:06 AM
Hay yung referee na tumawag ng FP1 kay paul artadi parang hindi nakita ang review ng incident....akala niya si PA ang humatak sa batok ni TY tang kasi ang angle niya ay nasa likod ni TYT kaya ang nakita niya ei yun braso ni PA after ng pagtulak ni TYT....kaya nga sumayad sa likod ng ulo ni TYT ang braso kasi nga itinulak siya ni TYT...very clear sa replay ilang beses pang inulit.....

As for Ginebra naman.....like LA Lakers sa NBA....coach at coaching staff ang dapat palitan....

Diko makuha ang idea ni tanquincien na ipapatapos kay MC47 ang laro pero hindi naman pinagsisimula.....
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 05, 2012 at 08:44 AM
Time for Noli "Loveboy" Eala to axe Tanquincen ....... either that or trade away much of BGK's lineup.

Like I've said many times, BGK's problems are due to minutes being spread out to too many players (loaded lineup) ...... add the fact that their lineup has much redundancy (too many scoring forwards).

If it's a coaching change, IMO Eala should make a nice offer to Boyet Fernandez to pry him out of MVP's camp ..... Boyet is a very good coach - preaches tough defense & plays a mean motion-offense.

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mattia on Nov 05, 2012 at 01:41 PM
probably because most of the time its all brawn and not brain, mas madali nalalaspag ang mga baguhang player  dahil di pa maingat sa mga galaw nila,some 10 years ago, parang bihirang bihira yata ang nagka ACL.

in previous post, i bravely said di sisikat si abueva sa pba, well im eating my words obviously, but not to mean harm, pag di sya mag iingat at mag pace ng sarili ng tama, baka ang tamang prediction is baka di sya mag tagal, yung mga tulad nya eh very prone to injury

I've seen Abueva play in the NCAA. I hated him a lot, being a Red Lion.  But I said as a basketball fan, this guy is exactly what the PBA needs.  He carries with him the old "gladiator" persona of the PBA of old -- the days of Jawo, Ginebra, Tanduay.  The days when we thoroughly enjoyed the PBA.  In the NCAA, you will definitely hate Abueva if you're from the opposing school.  He mocks you with his game.  And he loves playing against a hostile crowd.  But you will love him if he plays for your team.  Parang Jaworski.  Rarely does a player have this persona.  And I think the PBA realizes this that's why notice how they tremendously hype the Beast.  Just tune in to an Alaska game and all you hear is "Abueva this, Abueva that.  Beast here and Beast there..."

As for injury, I think Abueva is a smart player.  He can leap but he doesn't do kamikaze moves.  Hindi naman sya mataas tumalon talaga magaling lang pumuwesto.  At napakagulang!!  If he has one achilles heel, it's his propensity to play dirty.  But in the PBA, I guess he has tempered a lot which is good actually.  But mind you, Abueva IS a dirty player.  Go ask San Beda players like Sudan, Pascual, Hermida. Ilang siko, suntok at sipa sa $%#$ ang inabot nila kay the Beast >:D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 05, 2012 at 01:48 PM
^ how about Louie Alas?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mattia on Nov 05, 2012 at 02:17 PM
^ how about Louie Alas?

Louie Alas the coach of Letran?  What about him?  He's the assistant coach of Alaska now together with San Sebastian Coach Topex Robinson mainly to TAME THE BEAST.  And both are doing well.

Or are you referring to Alas' son Kevin?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Nov 05, 2012 at 02:21 PM
kasi sila ang todo bigay kung maglaro. wala pang masyadong gulang kaya napupwersa. yung mga beterano di na gigil na gigil maglaro.

I don't think that's it.. I think it's more of their conditioning.. if you look at the veteran stars now, those who've played for over 10 years, they've already made a name for themselves before they succumbed to a major injury.. Ildefonso and Seigle already won multiple individual awards and championships before they got injured.. same with Mark Caguioa and Helterbrand.. and these guys played all-out during their rookie days..

the last 3 ROY winners have had major surgery already before even finishing their 2nd year.. Paul Lee was becoming the face of RoS but now, when you talk about RoS, you think Jeff Chan.. Maierhofer was going to be one of the main frontline guys for then B-Meg but he got injured and lost his spot.. same with Al-Hussaini.. the PBA these days isn't even that physical and yet young guys are dropping like flies..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Nov 05, 2012 at 02:27 PM
Abueva looks really good because he has great teammates.. he doesn't turn the ball over too much because he has good PGs orchestrating for him.. he doesn't go one-on-one too much because he has slashers around him.. he's also surrounded by shooters kaya hindi niya pinipilit mga tira niya.. with that kind of team around him, he can just do what he's really good at--- hustle. if he played for Air21, Global or Barako, you would have seen the same guy from the NCAA.. still great but totally out of control..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 05, 2012 at 03:48 PM
I don't think that's it.. I think it's more of their conditioning.. if you look at the veteran stars now, those who've played for over 10 years, they've already made a name for themselves before they succumbed to a major injury.. Ildefonso and Seigle already won multiple individual awards and championships before they got injured.. same with Mark Caguioa and Helterbrand.. and these guys played all-out during their rookie days..

the last 3 ROY winners have had major surgery already before even finishing their 2nd year.. Paul Lee was becoming the face of RoS but now, when you talk about RoS, you think Jeff Chan.. Maierhofer was going to be one of the main frontline guys for then B-Meg but he got injured and lost his spot.. same with Al-Hussaini.. the PBA these days isn't even that physical and yet young guys are dropping like flies..

I think it's a combination of a few things ..... bad luck, the physical nature of today's PBA (it wasn't so just a few years ago) plus the propensity of younger players to play hyper - except for Al-Hussaini, the guy is a lazy-boy.  O0

One more thing I can think of ..... the lack of a full-calendar amateur league (PBL) might have something to do with the injuries to the younger set.

The PBL was a close approximation of the PBA, since they have a full calendar ...... plus the the league had no restrictions on players - meaning everyone from newbies to old veterans play.

The PBA D-League pales in comparison to the PBL ...... only players below 27 can play, which guarantees no grizzled vets to simulate the PBA's atmosphere. 

Plus, there are no draft rules here - which results in a parity gap greater than the PBA (NLEX rules, even if it fields only it's starting five).

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 05, 2012 at 04:46 PM
Louie Alas the coach of Letran?  What about him?  He's the assistant coach of Alaska now together with San Sebastian Coach Topex Robinson mainly to TAME THE BEAST.  And both are doing well.

Or are you referring to Alas' son Kevin?

i mean can louie alas be an option to coach ginebra?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: hotrod on Nov 05, 2012 at 05:09 PM
Mike Cortez to Air 21 looms as 3-team trade with Ginebra, Petron in the works

http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/mike-cortez-to-air-21-looms-as-3-team-trade-with-ginebra-petron-in-the-works (http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/mike-cortez-to-air-21-looms-as-3-team-trade-with-ginebra-petron-in-the-works)

Cortez to Air 21, Denok to Ginebra, Taha or Sena to Petron? Guard pa ren sa ginebra? hehe
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: rukawakaide1721 on Nov 05, 2012 at 05:26 PM
as per alvares....

“Kailangan ng guard ng Ginebra while yung Petron naman, malaki ang kailangan nila dahil injured si (June Mar) Fajardo and (Danny) Ildefonso,” said Alvarez.

so why Ginebra will send Mike Cortez? ei guard na naman si MC.... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Nov 05, 2012 at 07:42 PM
as per alvares....

“Kailangan ng guard ng Ginebra while yung Petron naman, malaki ang kailangan nila dahil injured si (June Mar) Fajardo and (Danny) Ildefonso,” said Alvarez.

so why Ginebra will send Mike Cortez? ei guard na naman si MC.... ;D ;D ;D

kung direct trade na Cortez for Taha or Sena magkakaroon ng isang pang malaki ang Ginebra e hindi naman na nila kailangan ng malaki. hindi naman nila pwedeng i-trade sa Petron ng diretsahan si Taha or Sena kasi sister teams sila. e kailangan ng Petron ng malaki kasi injured nga si Fajardo at si Ildefonso. So si Taha or Sena ay itetrade kay Miranda tapos si Miranda ay itetrade kay Cortez. Baka...
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: rukawakaide1721 on Nov 05, 2012 at 07:52 PM
kung direct trade na Cortez for Taha or Sena magkakaroon ng isang pang malaki ang Ginebra e hindi naman na nila kailangan ng malaki. hindi naman nila pwedeng i-trade sa Petron ng diretsahan si Taha or Sena kasi sister teams sila. e kailangan ng Petron ng malaki kasi injured nga si Fajardo at si Ildefonso. So si Taha or Sena ay itetrade kay Miranda tapos si Miranda ay itetrade kay Cortez. Baka...

the point is guard parin makukuha ng ginebra....at yung sinasabi ni alvarez na kailangan ng Ginebra ng guard ei parang hindi akma....buti sana kung ang ililipat ng Ginebra ay si Mamaril, Mairhofer or kung sino man na bigman nila....maaring may sense ang sinabi niyang kailangan ng Barangay ng Guard...

I am a Ginebra fan at basketball player (kanto kanto hahaha) at coach din (kanto kanto din hahaha) ang kailangan ng Barangay ay Coach at Coaching staff na kayang mag motivate ng players....sabi nga nila sa taas kumpletos rekados ang line-up sobra pa nga ei...proper man rotation ang kailangan gawin ng Coach ay siguradong makakapanalo sila...

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Nov 05, 2012 at 08:00 PM
the point is guard parin makukuha ng ginebra....at yung sinasabi ni alvarez na kailangan ng Ginebra ng guard ei parang hindi akma....buti sana kung ang ililipat ng Ginebra ay si Mamaril, Mairhofer or kung sino man na bigman nila....maaring may sense ang sinabi niyang kailangan ng Barangay ng Guard...

I am a Ginebra fan at basketball player (kanto kanto hahaha) at coach din (kanto kanto din hahaha) ang kailangan ng Barangay ay Coach at Coaching staff na kayang mag motivate ng players....sabi nga nila sa taas kumpletos rekados ang line-up sobra pa nga ei...proper man rotation ang kailangan gawin ng Coach ay siguradong makakapanalo sila...



Syempre palusot na lang yun para ma-justify yung inclusion ng Petron sa trade. Pwede namang direct trade for  Cortez kung gusto nila talagang makuha si Cortez.

Dapat na sila talagang magpalit ng coach. Yung hindi matatakot na mambangko ng player kung di maganda ang laro.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mattia on Nov 05, 2012 at 10:05 PM
i mean can louie alas be an option to coach ginebra?

Oh sorry I thought it was still with the Abueva thread.  Anyway, Louie is a good and scientific coach.  He can be an option but will Alaska let him? 
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Nov 06, 2012 at 08:02 PM
Cortez to Air21, Taha to Ginebra (http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/mike-cortez-to-air-21-yousef-taha-to-ginebra-trade-sealed)

Good trade for Ginebra.. Taha's a promising big man.. masipag at matapang.. raw but definitely lots of potential.. if Ginebra gets the 1st pick next year, they'll have a formidable young frontline of Maierhofer, Taha and Slaughter.. this trade is going to be good for Cortez as well.. he's not getting that much minutes in Ginebra anyway..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: steelcrazy on Nov 06, 2012 at 09:48 PM
i mean can louie alas be an option to coach ginebra?

i predict it's gona be Alfrancis Chua taking over Ginebra as head coach in the very near future.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 06, 2012 at 09:59 PM
i predict it's gona be Alfrancis Chua taking over Ginebra as head coach in the very near future.

mas maganda siguro sir maiba naman, nakakasawa ng makita sa bench si tanquincen or si uichico, nagpalit palit ng coach pero sila sila din naman, ok si chua para may katapat na ulit si guiao sa init ng ulo
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: steelcrazy on Nov 06, 2012 at 10:02 PM
mas maganda siguro sir maiba naman, nakakasawa ng makita sa bench si tanquincen or si uichico, nagpalit palit ng coach pero sila sila din naman, ok si chua para may katapat na ulit si guiao sa init ng ulo


Run and gun ang style ni Coach Al and that will benefit Ginebra's depth in the guard position.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Nov 06, 2012 at 11:32 PM
Natawa ako dito sa article na to...
But during their time eto ang matibay na line up ng Ginebra  :D

http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/photo-meme-five-game-losing-streak-maybe-its-time-for-ginebra-to-call-for-backup (http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/photo-meme-five-game-losing-streak-maybe-its-time-for-ginebra-to-call-for-backup)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Nov 07, 2012 at 09:25 AM
http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/mike-cortez-to-air-21-yousef-taha-to-ginebra-trade-sealed

i feel bad that cortez is going out. however, i agree with sir boredfilmmaker that this trade will be good for cortez. he will get the playing time he deserves.

i don't know who Taha is. can anybody feed me on him? initial reactions in acquiring him are good.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 07, 2012 at 10:50 AM
Taha is 6-8 tall, good mobility & has decent hands ...... surprisingly, has shown passion during his first few PBA games (IMO the guy was laidback during his lone stint with MAPUA).

However, Taha is extremely raw ...... has limited offensive skills and can be rattled easily when in the paint.

The BGK crowd should be extremely patient with Taha ...... he's a prospect, who might turn out the be a good rotation player or a complete dud (e.g. Mike Holper).

=====================================================================

Good for Mike Cortez that he finally get's to play good minutes with his old coach.

Franz Pumaren is desperate these days ...... he needs to start winning and getting his old lead PG might be a good start.


N.B. Just have to say this ...... funny that AIR21 traded for Mike Cortez, when they already had him before.

Back in 2010, AIR21 traded Cabagnot to SMB for Cortez ...... 3 months later, AIR21 trades Cortez to BGK for Mamaril ....... another 3 months later, AIR21 trades Mamaril back to BGK for a draft pick.

Bert "Pimp Daddy" Lina & Lito "The Trade B*tch" Alvarez at their best.
  O0
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Nov 07, 2012 at 11:08 AM
thanks, sir.

i guess BGSM wanted a young gun for a center. or maybe other teams are not willing to let go of their bigs. this is a gamble -- letting go of a veteran in exchange for a rookie. they really need a big man, anyway, and there still is an abundance of players in their guard spot. i just hope that Taha does not turn out to be a lemon. otherwise, sayang ang pagbitaw nila kay Cortez.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 07, 2012 at 12:05 PM
thanks, sir.

i guess BGSM wanted a young gun for a center. or maybe other teams are not willing to let go of their bigs. this is a gamble -- letting go of a veteran in exchange for a rookie. they really need a big man, anyway, and there still is an abundance of players in their guard spot. i just hope that Taha does not turn out to be a lemon. otherwise, sayang ang pagbitaw nila kay Cortez.

Well at least Taha has decent hands, which is very essential for bigs ..... if Taha gets his head straight and plays to his strengths e.g. crashing the boards, putbacks, etc, he should be fine.

Like I said, the big thing that should worry BGK fans .... Taha has very limited offensive skills. He is very raw in most aspects of the game.

The BGK crowd should be very patient with him ..... he's far from being a bluechip rookie.

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mattia on Nov 07, 2012 at 05:25 PM
It's Alaska vs ROS now playing. 

The Beast vs. "Extra Rice" Belga!! >:D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: steelcrazy on Nov 07, 2012 at 09:15 PM
Despite all the players movements, SMC teams suck!
Much better we just cheer for Alaska with Abueva and Casio instead.
Alaska vs TNT nlng agad sa Finals.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: siriusblack on Nov 08, 2012 at 07:25 AM
Despite all the players movements, SMC teams suck!
Much better we just cheer for Alaska with Abueva and Casio instead.
Alaska vs TNT nlng agad sa Finals.

not all SMC teams... SanMig seems to be doing okay... parang sila ang favorite child ngayon ng SMC. Excellent frontline, great backcourt.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 08, 2012 at 07:49 AM
not all SMC teams... SanMig seems to be doing okay... parang sila ang favorite child ngayon ng SMC. Excellent frontline, great backcourt.

Yup, San Mig Coffee has been doing great.

San Mig Coffee is loaded ..... just as BGK and PETRON are loaded.

The one big difference is Tim Cone.

Siot seems to have worn out his welcome in BGK ..... while PETRON's Racela is too raw for a PBA head-coaching gig - but hey, talent almost always win in the PBA.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: steelcrazy on Nov 09, 2012 at 09:11 AM
Yup, San Mig Coffee has been doing great.

San Mig Coffee is loaded ..... just as BGK and PETRON are loaded.

The one big difference is Tim Cone.

Siot seems to have worn out his welcome in BGK ..... while PETRON's Racela is too raw for a PBA head-coaching gig - but hey, talent almost always win in the PBA.


Perhaps Tim Cone has the final with regards to the composition of his line up unlike at Petron and Ginebra where the coaches are just like puppets at sunud sunuran lng sa management.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 09, 2012 at 09:57 AM
Perhaps Tim Cone has the final with regards to the composition of his line up unlike at Petron and Ginebra where the coaches are just like puppets at sunud sunuran lng sa management.

IMO all 3 of the SMC head coaches enjoy the luxury of a loaded lineup (illegally paid though IMO) and the leeway to have a draft & free-agent wishlist.

However, I do agree that Tanquincen & Racela/Agustin kowtow's to SMC management & the pressures from their fandom ...... resulting in the high mortality rate of players, screwed-up rotations, poor draft choices, imbalanced lineups, poor chemistry, etc.

Tim Cone's abilities and accomplishments are legendary ...... no one will dare bypass him on how to run his team.

Example ..... for the past conferences, Rajko Toroman was responsible for selecting imports for both PETRON & BGK - poor finishes for both teams, including the disastrous Jackson Vroman.

Tim Cone meanwhile selects imports for BMEG ..... he chose Denzel Bowles & Marcus Blakely - got himself a championship & a runner-up finish.

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Nov 09, 2012 at 07:37 PM
watching Mike Cortez earlier playing for Franz Pumaren felt like it was UAAP all over again.. 24pts, 6rebs, 6asts, 5stls for the Cool Cat.. he scored 5 straight to lead Air21 to the win, 86-85.. on another news, Rico Villanueva looked like he injured his knee.. and it looked bad.. just when he was getting his confidence back.. hope it's nothing serious..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 09, 2012 at 08:31 PM
Enrico's latest injury does look serious ..... the way his knee buckled; it didn't look good.

I've seen much "softer" landings on other recent injuries - and they all turned out to be ACL's & MCL's.

A pity, since Enrico has resurrected his career somewhat this season ..... hope that Enrico avoids the recent ACL/MCL bug.



Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Nikkie on Nov 12, 2012 at 07:05 AM
Nice win by Ginebra last night against TNT. This should boost their morale.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: rukawakaide1721 on Nov 14, 2012 at 09:17 PM
Santa Cruz Warriors Announce Training Camp Roster  (http://www.nba.com/dleague/santacruz/santa_cruz_warriors_training_camp_roster.html)

from the list sana makasama si Japeth sa top 12.... :D :D :D

Name    School    Position    Height    Weight
Japeth Aguilar    W. Kentucky    C    6'10"    210
Carlon Brown    Colorado    G    6'5"    205
Chris Daniels    Texas A&M-CC    C    7'0"    265
Lance Goulbourne    Vanderbilt    F    6'8"    230
Taylor Griffin    Oklahoma    F    6'8"    230
Stefhon Hannah    Missouri    G    6'0"    180
Rick Jackson    Syracuse    C    6'8"    245
Dominique Johnson    Azusa Pacific    G    6'3"    190
Justin Johnson    Concordia-Irvine    G    6'2"    180
Cameron Jones    Northern Arizona    G    6'4"    185
Travis Leslie    Georgia    G    6'4"    205
Arron Mollet    Notre Dame de Namur    G    6'3"    190
Darren Moore    UC-Irvine    G    6'3"    190
Harouna Mutombo    Western Carolina    G/F    6'4"    195
Daniel Nwaelele    Air Force    G    6'5"    205
T.J. Robinson    Long Beach State    F    6'8"    205
Steve Tchiengang    Vanderbilt    F    6'9"    245
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Nov 15, 2012 at 11:21 AM
current stats leaders


http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/pba-stat-leaders-as-of-november-11-2012 (http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/pba-stat-leaders-as-of-november-11-2012)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: dmaximus on Nov 15, 2012 at 11:31 AM
Anyone here buy tickets online? palagi nalang sold out good seats e. parang reserved for VIPs yata patron? ???
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Nikkie on Nov 15, 2012 at 02:29 PM
Anyone here buy tickets online? palagi nalang sold out good seats e. parang reserved for VIPs yata patron? ???

In my experience mas ok pa sa SM. Or kung manonood ka ng game na maglalaro ang Ginebra baka matulungan kita. ;)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: frequenzy on Nov 15, 2012 at 03:14 PM
Anyone here buy tickets online? palagi nalang sold out good seats e. parang reserved for VIPs yata patron? ???
not unless semis na yung games, most of the time marami pa available pag sa araneta ka bumili.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Nikkie on Nov 15, 2012 at 05:32 PM
current stats leaders


http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/pba-stat-leaders-as-of-november-11-2012 (http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/pba-stat-leaders-as-of-november-11-2012)

Wow at Willie Miller's minutes.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Nov 15, 2012 at 06:00 PM
Abueva is no saint but a hit like this is really uncalled for.. a hard foul or a bump to a rookie as initiation is alright.. but slapping him straight on the face is just plain dirty.. no foul called here but it seems like the referee who didn't blow his whistle has been suspended 4 games.. Rob Reyes has yet to be sanctioned, though.. may binilin pa siyang mga salita after the hit..

(http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz198/b-filmmaker/calhit.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzQco02Tcxs (around the 1:00 mark)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: frequenzy on Nov 15, 2012 at 06:16 PM
eto ba yung bumagsak si abueva tapos tumayo at kumuha ng rebound
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Nov 15, 2012 at 06:22 PM
eto ba yung bumagsak si abueva tapos tumayo at kumuha ng rebound

yeah but it was a steal.. tumayo siya at inagaw yung pasa ni Rob Reyes..
Title: PBA Season 38
Post by: frequenzy on Nov 15, 2012 at 06:27 PM
hindi ko masyado makita kung anu yung tinamaan sa mukha ni abueva.parang hinampas ba siya?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 15, 2012 at 07:00 PM
hindi ko masyado makita kung anu yung tinamaan sa mukha ni abueva.parang hinampas ba siya?

It was an obvious hit to the face ...... plus, Rob Reyes seemed to taunt (from what I saw on TV and the replays) Abueva afterwards.

Abueva gave out a few very minor bumps earlier in the game ..... but nothing to justify such a horrendous hit from Reyes.

Rob Reyes and the ref (nearest to the action) should be suspended for this.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Nov 15, 2012 at 07:01 PM
hindi ko masyado makita kung anu yung tinamaan sa mukha ni abueva.parang hinampas ba siya?

yeah.. sinampal sa harap ng mukha.. the ref has been suspended 4 games pero si Reyes sa Sabado pa kakausapin..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Nov 15, 2012 at 11:29 PM
In my experience mas ok pa sa SM. Or kung manonood ka ng game na maglalaro ang Ginebra baka matulungan kita. ;)

feed me the details, sir. :D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: wengkapre on Nov 19, 2012 at 10:17 AM
In my experience mas ok pa sa SM. Or kung manonood ka ng game na maglalaro ang Ginebra baka matulungan kita. ;)

me too sir, kabaranggay?  :)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: rukawakaide1721 on Nov 19, 2012 at 03:33 PM
isang hakbang na lang sa pinapangarap ni JA at ng mga pinoy na makakita ng full blooded Filipino sa NBA...

walang masamang mangarap, let us all hope and pray for him... ;D ;D ;D

Japeth Aguilar survives two cuts, heads into last week of D-League tryouts (http://www.rappler.com/sports/16386-japeth-aguilar-survives-two-cuts,-heads-into-last-week-of-d-league-tryouts)

(http://static.rappler.com/images/JapethTryouts.jpg)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: oznola on Nov 20, 2012 at 03:37 AM
Abueva is no saint but a hit like this is really uncalled for.. a hard foul or a bump to a rookie as initiation is alright.. but slapping him straight on the face is just plain dirty.. no foul called here but it seems like the referee who didn't blow his whistle has been suspended 4 games.. Rob Reyes has yet to be sanctioned, though.. may binilin pa siyang mga salita after the hit..

(http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz198/b-filmmaker/calhit.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzQco02Tcxs (around the 1:00 mark)

damn cheap shot!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: VenoM_Unleashed on Nov 25, 2012 at 09:40 PM
Ang sakit sa mata panoorin ng Ginebra kanina noong 1st half hanggang early 3rd quarter, panget parehong opensa at dipensa  :-[

...Pero biglang pumutok, akalain mo nahabol pa 'yung 18 point lead ng ROS, nanalo pa Ginebra!  ;D

They are now on a 4 game winning streak  ;)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: yeh-yeh on Nov 25, 2012 at 11:27 PM
Air Force Ellis halimaw! hehe.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: wengkapre on Nov 26, 2012 at 07:50 AM
Ang sakit sa mata panoorin ng Ginebra kanina noong 1st half hanggang early 3rd quarter, panget parehong opensa at dipensa  :-[

...Pero biglang pumutok, akalain mo nahabol pa 'yung 18 point lead ng ROS, nanalo pa Ginebra!  ;D

They are now on a 4 game winning streak  ;)


I agree, ang sama ng laro nila offensively & defensively for the 1st half, pero ibang-iba naman pagpasok ng 2nd half, kudos sa coaching staff! they made all the right adjustments, got back on the right track & they got the big W ;)...tuwang-tuwa sila Sol Mercado & Chris Ross, parang sila na din tumalo sa ROS  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Nikkie on Nov 26, 2012 at 07:56 AM
Nice win by Ginebra. Biglang nasa taas na naman sila ng standings. :D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Nov 28, 2012 at 07:39 PM
Abueva just showed everyone why he was picked by Alaska over Hodge. 20pts 18rebs against Hodge and Meralco. Much more than the stats, sa impact dinaig ni Abueva si Hodge. All game long, nararamdaman yung presence ni Abueva on both ends. You can't say the same for Hodge. Tonight, Abueva played like a franchise player while Hodge looked like just another rookie.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Dec 01, 2012 at 11:41 PM
five wins in a row for BGSM! peaking at the right time? perhaps.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Dec 02, 2012 at 06:33 PM
five wins in a row for BGSM! peaking at the right time? perhaps.

nabati eh. they lost to Barako and with TNT as their last opponent, delikado pa Ginebra bumagsak sa 7th spot and a twice-to-win disadvantage..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: frequenzy on Dec 02, 2012 at 09:17 PM
What a game between ros and smc. Hirap talaga sanmig sa mga bata ni yeng guiao
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: steelcrazy on Dec 02, 2012 at 09:24 PM
Abueva just showed everyone why he was picked by Alaska over Hodge. 20pts 18rebs against Hodge and Meralco. Much more than the stats, sa impact dinaig ni Abueva si Hodge. All game long, nararamdaman yung presence ni Abueva on both ends. You can't say the same for Hodge. Tonight, Abueva played like a franchise player while Hodge looked like just another rookie.

Rookie MVP? kaya ba?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Dec 02, 2012 at 09:30 PM
Rookie MVP? kaya ba?

Mahirap kasi Alaska isn't really a championship caliber team at this point.. stats-wise, though, he'll surely be a contender..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Dec 02, 2012 at 10:18 PM
Mahirap kasi Alaska isn't really a championship caliber team at this point.. stats-wise, though, he'll surely be a contender..

Benjie Paras did it even though Ramon Fernandez had a sizable lead on him on statistical points. Paras did it even though San Miguel had a grand slam that year and Fernandez was the obvious MVP. Paras did it with the help of Ronnie Nathanielz's lobbying, thus winning the media vote by a landslide. If Abueva is a contender for the MVP at the end of this season, media votes just might help him be the second rookie-MVP.
Title: Re: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: SiCkBoY on Dec 03, 2012 at 12:52 PM
What a game between ros and smc. Hirap talaga sanmig sa mga bata ni yeng guiao

Barumbado kasi maglaro ang RoS eh.

Team Extra Rice vs. SMC Glamour Boys ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Dec 03, 2012 at 02:38 PM
nabati eh. they lost to Barako and with TNT as their last opponent, delikado pa Ginebra bumagsak sa 7th spot and a twice-to-win disadvantage..

yeah....after being so fiery the past few games, they were suddenly very flat last night. yes, it is a must-win game for them on Sunday.
Title: PBA Season 38
Post by: frequenzy on Dec 03, 2012 at 07:23 PM
Barumbado kasi maglaro ang RoS eh.

Team Extra Rice vs. SMC Glamour Boys ;D
haha! although I like belga. he fouls like its always a finals game.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: wengkapre on Dec 04, 2012 at 02:11 PM
haha! although I like belga. he fouls like its always a finals game.

imo, that's the right way of giving a foul to the shooter, as long as it's not a closed fist, intentional and/or a let go situation, let's say a dunk.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: SiCkBoY on Dec 04, 2012 at 02:19 PM
Saka nothing to lose kina Belga at Quinahan. Kung gantihan at sikuhin sila sa mukha, walang masisira. Eh kung sikuhin sa mukha si Sakuragi? ^-^
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Dec 04, 2012 at 02:46 PM
imo, that's the right way of giving a foul to the shooter, as long as it's not a closed fist, intentional and/or a let go situation, let's say a dunk.

that's the problem I have with these RoS guys. they foul hard kahit dribble lang ginagawa ng kalaban. I remember Belga doing a football tackle against a PG who hasn't even crossed the half court line yet. He lowered his shoulder straight to the guys chest when holding him to prevent a fastbreak was enough. Fouling hard to prevent a basket or a 3pt play is acceptable. But a hard foul on a guy who's not even in a scoring position is just dirty.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: VenoM_Unleashed on Dec 04, 2012 at 03:00 PM
Huli ka Balbon!

Former PBA cager Dennis Espino arrested
By Chris Lagunzad | Yahoo! PH Sports – 16 hours ago
 
You can run, but you can’t hide.

After eight months of being a fugitive, former PBA star Dennis Espino, who has been accused of illegal detention, was finally nabbed by authorities during an operation in Mabalacat, Pampanga last Thursday.

According to PNP-Criminal Investigation and Detection Group (PNP-CIDG) Chief P/Director Samuel Pagdilao Jr., Espino, 38, was caught in his brother’s office in Barangay Tabun, Mabalacat, Pampanga behind a team from the Women and Children Protection Division headed by Chief Inspector Fernando Cunanan Jr.

The arrest warrant, issued by Judge Mary Anne Pardon-Rivera of San Fernando, Pampanga Regional Trial Court branch 46, suggests no bail for Espino.

A prominent figure during the glorious run of University of Santo Tomas in the UAAP in mid-90s, Espino was charged by Mildred Eiman, 20, who served as his personal secretary while running the Northline Farms in Arayat, Pampanga.

According to the sworn statement of Eiman, Espino detained her for at least a month after she failed to pay a debt of P5,000.

Based on several reports, the manhunt took eight months since Espino, cousin of Arayat mayor Luis Espino, managed to move from one place to another.

He reportedly sought refuge in his family's ancestral house in Nepo, Angeles City, aside from hiding in his house at Vista Verde in Cainta, Rizal and also in Baguio City.

Espino was drafted first overall in the 1995 rookie draft by Sta. Lucia and played 14 seasons with the Realtors, helping them to win two titles in the process. He was then traded to Coca-Cola in 2009 and also had a brief stint with Talk ‘N Text,before hanging up his sneakers.

Espino also donned the national colors with the Philippine Centennial Team, which bageed the bronze medal in the 1998 Asian Games held in Bangkok, Thailand.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: wengkapre on Dec 04, 2012 at 03:06 PM
that's the problem I have with these RoS guys. they foul hard kahit dribble lang ginagawa ng kalaban. I remember Belga doing a football tackle against a PG who hasn't even crossed the half court line yet. He lowered his shoulder straight to the guys chest when holding him to prevent a fastbreak was enough. Fouling hard to prevent a basket or a 3pt play is acceptable. But a hard foul on a guy who's not even in a scoring position is just dirty.

yan ang turo ni Guaio!   ;)
Remember Jimuel Turion ?  >:(
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 04, 2012 at 04:45 PM
^ about espino, ang tagal na nga ng kaso na ito, i remember na feature pa yata yan sa XXX or another program. Ang yabang pa ni espino nuon, ngayon wala na syang kawala hopefully justice will be served.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 05, 2012 at 12:01 PM
just had  a short chat with RJ Jazul, magiging kapitbahay ko pala sya in a month time, malapit ng matapos yung pinapagawa nyang bahay malapit sa amin.

very nice guy, mabait at magalang walang ere.
Title: Re: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: SiCkBoY on Dec 05, 2012 at 12:44 PM
yan ang turo ni Guaio!   ;)
Remember Jimuel Turion ?  >:(

Yeah he clotheslined and severely injured Jimmy Alapag even though the game was already won by TNT by a blowout margin.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mattia on Dec 05, 2012 at 09:38 PM
Great come from behind win by Alaska ;D Down by 15 yata (or more) in the 3rd Quarter, Alaska made a furious 4th Q run to beat Petron.  Abueva nailed the go ahead basket with 1 minute remaining.  Energizing win by the Aces going to the playoffs...
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: rukawakaide1721 on Dec 05, 2012 at 09:44 PM
Japeth gives it one more try, accepts Warriors' offer as practice player  (http://www.philstar.com/sports/2012/12/05/880925/japeth-gives-it-one-more-try-accepts-warriors-offer-practice-player)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: rukawakaide1721 on Dec 05, 2012 at 10:00 PM
sa pagkatalo ng petron...salamat at wala ng pangamba pang malaglag ang BGSM sa 7th spot...at ngayun may chance pa silang maging 3 or 4 depende sa kakalabasan ng mga natitirang mga games....

last remaining games are:

BBEC Vs. ROS
San Mig Coffee Vs. Global Port
Meralco Vs. San Mig Coffee
Talk & Text Vs. BGSM

2012-2013 Philippine Cup Eliminations
Teams           W  L

Talk 'N Text    11  2
San Mig Coffee  9  3
Rain or Shine   8  5
Alaska    8  6
Barangay Ginebra  7  6
Meralco  7  6
Petron Blaze  6  8
Air21 5  9
Barako Bull  4  9
Globalport 1  12
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Dec 05, 2012 at 10:32 PM
Great come from behind win by Alaska ;D Down by 15 yata (or more) in the 3rd Quarter, Alaska made a furious 4th Q run to beat Petron.  Abueva nailed the go ahead basket with 1 minute remaining.  Energizing win by the Aces going to the playoffs...

Gotta hand it to Luigi Trillo. He was a mess 'til the middle of the 3rd. He kept Abueva in even after the 2nd foul. That messed up their game plan. He started the 2nd half with Eman and Jazul. The lead ballooned to 21. But when he found his 5, he stuck with it.

He barely used Hontiveros in their past 2 games but he played him the entire 4th tonight. And that paid off when Hontiveros got Lassiter's 6th foul. Abueva was out of control starting the 3rd dahil sa gigil. Luigi pulled him out to settle down. He managed Thoss' minutes, keeping him fresh sa endgame. And I liked that he kept Baguio and Casio in the game most of the time, not pulling them out and destroying their rhythm.

Abueva really is a game changer. And surprisingly, a pretty smart player. He actually knows when to stop unlike his NCAA days.

Barring any injuries to their core, this team could be contenders. Maybe not this conference but in a conference or 2, they'd be up there.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Dec 06, 2012 at 06:32 AM
Gotta hand it to Luigi Trillo. He was a mess 'til the middle of the 3rd. He kept Abueva in even after the 2nd foul. That messed up their game plan. He started the 2nd half with Eman and Jazul. The lead ballooned to 21. But when he found his 5, he stuck with it.

He barely used Hontiveros in their past 2 games but he played him the entire 4th tonight. And that paid off when Hontiveros got Lassiter's 6th foul. Abueva was out of control starting the 3rd dahil sa gigil. Luigi pulled him out to settle down. He managed Thoss' minutes, keeping him fresh sa endgame. And I liked that he kept Baguio and Casio in the game most of the time, not pulling them out and destroying their rhythm.

Abueva really is a game changer. And surprisingly, a pretty smart player. He actually knows when to stop unlike his NCAA days.

Barring any injuries to their core, this team could be contenders. Maybe not this conference but in a conference or 2, they'd be up there.

The difference between Alaska and Petron is that Alaska knows who their go-to guy is. And Alaska knows who will handle the ball at the crucial stages of the game. Baguio is their go-to guy while Casio handles the ball for the most part of their possession. On the other hand, Petron, with all their star players, doesn't have a regular go-to guy. At crucial stages of the game, Cabagnot doesn't always handle the ball to set up the play. Lutz, Washington, Yeo, even Miranda spend so much time dribbling the ball that they end up taking a hurried long shot and missing.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Chorus on Dec 06, 2012 at 06:58 AM
that's the problem I have with these RoS guys. they foul hard kahit dribble lang ginagawa ng kalaban. I remember Belga doing a football tackle against a PG who hasn't even crossed the half court line yet. He lowered his shoulder straight to the guys chest when holding him to prevent a fastbreak was enough. Fouling hard to prevent a basket or a 3pt play is acceptable. But a hard foul on a guy who's not even in a scoring position is just dirty.

+1
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: jericm on Dec 06, 2012 at 09:49 AM
yan ang turo ni Guaio!   ;)
Remember Jimuel Turion ?  >:(

That is Guiao's antics, marunong gumulang pero pag sila nagugulangan napipikon... Nung nasa Burger King pa ata sya noon , there was this game against San Miguel na natamaan nya si Hontiveros after making a shot, sya pa ang maangas nung nagreklamo ang SMB, pero nung pumalag na si Jarencio biglang kabig na si Guiao, hahahah!!!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: rafa_palma on Dec 06, 2012 at 12:08 PM
Great come from behind win by Alaska ;D Down by 15 yata (or more) in the 3rd Quarter, Alaska made a furious 4th Q run to beat Petron.  Abueva nailed the go ahead basket with 1 minute remaining.  Energizing win by the Aces going to the playoffs...


Actually they lead 21pts on the 3rd then I already switched channel since seems like Petron is not missing anything.

Then as I try to check the end score, ayun 3pt lead na lang on last 2 minutes of 4th so tutok uli. Sayang di ko nakita
pano hinabol. :)

Must really be a collapse both on offense and defense for Petron. Buti na lang BGSM fan. :)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Huddaf on Dec 06, 2012 at 12:45 PM


Actually they lead 21pts on the 3rd then I already switched channel since seems like Petron is not missing anything.

Then as I try to check the end score, ayun 3pt lead na lang on last 2 minutes of 4th so tutok uli. Sayang di ko nakita
pano hinabol. :)

Must really be a collapse both on offense and defense for Petron. Buti na lang BGSM fan. :)

In about 2 mins, petron started fumbling the ball. Letting them get stolen, missing shots and at one point missed an easy layup. The game was decided during that time as Petron just crumbled and lost their intensity.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Dec 06, 2012 at 12:52 PM
One of the best comebacks I've seen ...... (ROS recent comeback win over MER as well).

It was a combination of ALASKA's stifling defense in Q4, ALASKA's good shooting & PETRON playing not to lose ...... combine all of this and you get PETRON's worst loss so far this season.

I almost forgot ...... too much HERO-BALL from Cabagnot.  ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Nikkie on Dec 09, 2012 at 08:54 AM
May game pa ba Ginebra for elimination? For some reason ayaw magopen ng PBA website sakin.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Dec 09, 2012 at 09:36 AM
May game pa ba Ginebra for elimination? For some reason ayaw magopen ng PBA website sakin.

Mamaya last game nila sa elims vs. TnT
2nd game sa MOA Arena
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Dec 09, 2012 at 09:43 AM
May game pa ba Ginebra for elimination? For some reason ayaw magopen ng PBA website sakin.

Yup, 2 more games tonight, to close out the eliminations ..... to determine the last quarterfinal matchups.

TnT-A21 & SMC-PET are already set, with both TnT & SMC enjoying twice-to-beat advantages.

Pending tonight's outcomes ..... it's likely going to be: ROS-BGK & MER-ALA for the other pair of quarterfinals matchups (Best-of-3).

===========================================================================

SMC-PET should be a great scrap ...... I'm very sure that PETRON would be the last team that Tim Cone wants to face, even with a twice-to-beat advantage.

ROS-BGK & MER-ALA should be good ones as well.

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Dec 09, 2012 at 06:20 PM
with Meralco's victory over San Mig just now, no matter what the result of the Ginebra-TNT game, it will be a Meralco-Alaska and ROS-Ginebra best-of-three quarterfinals series. those are pretty even match-ups..
Title: PBA Season 38
Post by: frequenzy on Dec 09, 2012 at 07:04 PM
dapat magpahinga na lang starters ng bgk.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mattia on Dec 11, 2012 at 11:39 AM
dapat magpahinga na lang starters ng bgk.

Wag, baka ma fine sila ng $250,000 ni David Stern.  Bwahahahaha
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Dec 13, 2012 at 01:09 AM
RoS dominated Ginebra earlier, 82-65, with Jeff Chan scoring only 1pt. The Chris-Paul (Tiu-Lee) tandem of RoS is impressive. In the other game, Alaska took game 1 vs Meralco, 90-84. Baguio is starting to take over the team. Abueva was in foul trouble and fouled out early in the 4th. Yun lang so far ang nakakapigil sa kanya. The San Mig-Petron game tonight should be interesting. Well, if the real Petron shows up, that is.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Dec 13, 2012 at 10:49 PM
Excellent games earlier. TNT eliminated Air21, 105-100. Close game all throughout and vintage performance by Mike Cortez. The guy had 21pts, 18asts and 9rebs. I feel for the guy. He wanted the win so badly and they had a chance if not for a stupid play by Bonbon Custodio.

In the 2nd game, San Mig eliminated Petron as well, in OT, 92-87. Petron had control of the game but a bad fall by Marcio Lassiter sucked the energy out of Petron's game. I agree with what Jason Webb said earlier. The referees should put the players' well-being first before resuming play. Marcio was clearly limping during that dead ball situation but the ref didn't even stop to ask if he was fine. Inbound kaagad so Marcio had to run to get to his man. He jumped and didn't have the chance to check where and how he would land kasi naghahabol na nga. That was a scary fall and the sight of him being taken out on a stretcher was not good. I'm really hoping he's fine and it's nothing serious.

Anyway, one good thing came out for Petron in that game. Junemar Fajardo is scary, if he's given the touches. Kahit apat na nakabantay sa kanya, kaya pa umiskor. Malakas, magaling mag-seal, maganda footwork at matalino maglaro. I don't know why it took Petron so long to make him the no.1 option on offense.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Dec 14, 2012 at 05:23 AM
Goes to show that being a good PG doesn't make you a good head coach, farther down the road.

PETRON's Racela is miles away from competing with coaches like Cone, Guiao, etc.

It took a do-or-die game for Racela to finally run plays for behemoth Fajardo ...... once more, PETRON looked clueless running plays during crunch time.

Loverboy Eala better get a dominant import for PETRON, else they'll replicate their poor record in the next two conferences.

===========================================================

That Lassiter fall was scary ..... shades of the Tejada incident from long ago. Hope he recovers well and soon.

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: SiCkBoY on Dec 14, 2012 at 06:29 AM
PETRON's Racela is miles away from competing with coaches like Cone, Guiao, etc.

Experience-wise, ang layo naman ni Cone and Guiao kay Racela.  It's an unfair comparison.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Dec 14, 2012 at 01:09 PM
Experience-wise, ang layo naman ni Cone and Guiao kay Racela.  It's an unfair comparison.

Hence, I had used the word "competing" bro ..... it's one thing to beat Cone & Guiao, but to hang with them and make it competitive from a technical standpoint, is another thing (lesser) altogether.

Franz Pumaren's losses during his rookie year as head-coach can be attributed more to an extremely poor lineup than his coaching skills.

Pumaren got a marginally better lineup this year ..... the results are clear - his teams will compete and will have the gameplan to execute during crunch time.

Racela is way too raw ...... not unlike Tanquincen, Pumaren, Agustin, etc when they got their first stint as head coaches.

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Dec 14, 2012 at 08:08 PM
in fairness to Olsen, the circumstances in which he became a PBA head coach were less than ideal.. he was really just a coach on paper to start the season.. it's unfair to expect much from him given the circumstances..

anyway, Alaska marches to the semis after an 88-70 drubbing of Meralco.. they put up a defensive clinic earlier.. a defense highlighted by that Abueva block on Buenafe wherein he pinned the ball then grabbed it in one motion.. mabilis sila sa switches, they fought the screens and their hands were active in blocking the passing lanes.. they meet TNT next and if they play the same way they did vs Meralco, they've got a chance against the defending champs.. also, with their entry into the semis, Calvin Abueva is making a legitimate run at that elusive Rookie-MVP award.. stats-wise, he's already 2nd to Arwind this conference.. if he's consistent and Alaska keeps going deep in the playoffs for the rest of the season, Calvin's got a good chance to win it all..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mikz023 on Dec 15, 2012 at 08:47 AM
in fairness to Olsen, the circumstances in which he became a PBA head coach were less than ideal.. he was really just a coach on paper to start the season.. it's unfair to expect much from him given the circumstances..

anyway, Alaska marches to the semis after an 88-70 drubbing of Meralco.. they put up a defensive clinic earlier.. a defense highlighted by that Abueva block on Buenafe wherein he pinned the ball then grabbed it in one motion.. mabilis sila sa switches, they fought the screens and their hands were active in blocking the passing lanes.. they meet TNT next and if they play the same way they did vs Meralco, they've got a chance against the defending champs.. also, with their entry into the semis, Calvin Abueva is making a legitimate run at that elusive Rookie-MVP award.. stats-wise, he's already 2nd to Arwind this conference.. if he's consistent and Alaska keeps going deep in the playoffs for the rest of the season, Calvin's got a good chance to win it all..

Looking forward for abueva to win the mvp-rookie award. I think he deserves it the way he playing right now.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: rafa_palma on Dec 15, 2012 at 09:52 AM
Do or Die game tomorrow for RoS and Ginebra.

Napapakanta ako.. Let's get physical, physical. :D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Dec 15, 2012 at 09:55 AM
Looking forward for abueva to win the mvp-rookie award. I think he deserves it the way he playing right now.

It's still early in the season. A player does not deserve to win the rookie of the year award much less the MVP award just because of how he has played in the eliminations of a conference.

The way he's playing and with the support and playing time given to him by Alaska, Abueva is obviously a top choice for rookie of the year but not yet for MVP. Petron's Fajardo has shown he can contend for the rookie of the year award as well. If Petron plays Fajardo to his full potential the rest of the season, then it could be a toss-up between Abueva and Fajardo for the rookie of the year award.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ivannn on Dec 17, 2012 at 11:55 PM
wawa pba. they got bumped off the schedule sa MOA arena for thursday for psy's concert. kaya on wednesday, double header ang semis =)


http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/pba-revises-semifinals-schedule-because-of-gangnam-style-singer
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Dec 18, 2012 at 12:12 AM
wawa pba. they got bumped off......

wawa din Ginebra... :(
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Dec 18, 2012 at 06:08 AM
wawa din Ginebra... :(

pinilit kasi si caguioa at helterbrand kahit pangit laro.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Dec 18, 2012 at 03:16 PM
pinilit kasi si caguioa at helterbrand kahit pangit laro.

Malaki na nawala sa laro ni Jj. Parang walang kompyansa...
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mattia on Dec 19, 2012 at 11:33 AM
(http://www.slamonlineph.com/wp-content/uploads/110212_pba-110212-alaska-tnt-pvp-07.jpg)

Best of 7 starts today at 5pm ;D

Go Alaska!!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on Dec 19, 2012 at 11:44 AM
Is alaska the most underrated team right now? After that big game against petron, I think they have a good chance of beating talk and text.. I like to see alaska vs. Ros in the finals.. Mga homegrown talents..

@ bro louie, I never liked JJ's style of playing.. I rarely watch pba but evrytime i see gsm and jj playing as PG, parang prone sa errors and biglang tumitira.. Just my 2cents :)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Dec 19, 2012 at 07:22 PM
Alaska loses a heartbreaker to TNT in game one, 65-66.. big shot by Ryan Reyes.. Trillo did a good job making adjustments in the 2nd half but Black outcoached him in those last few plays.. not knowing who had possession, Trillo shouldn't have drawn out a play on offense during that lull.. he should have set up a defensive play and just called a time out if the ball went to them..

one good thing for Alaska, though, is that they can really match-up with TNT.. if they can keep it close the entire game, they have a chance of stealing a game or two from TNT.. sub-par games from Baguio, Abueva and Casio but they almost won it..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: steelcrazy on Dec 19, 2012 at 07:37 PM
Alaska loses a heartbreaker to TNT in game one, 65-66.. big shot by Ryan Reyes.. Trillo did a good job making adjustments in the 2nd half but Black outcoached him in those last few plays.. not knowing who had possession, Trillo shouldn't have drawn out a play on offense during that lull.. he should have set up a defensive play and just called a time out if the ball went to them..

one good thing for Alaska, though, is that they can really match-up with TNT.. if they can keep it close the entire game, they have a chance of stealing a game or two from TNT.. sub-par games from Baguio, Abueva and Casio but they almost won it..

Speaking of Coach Luigi, he's now being exposed to tough situations and that will do him good as he's starting to gain the experience being a much better coach in the near future.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Dec 20, 2012 at 01:24 PM
@ bro louie, I never liked JJ's style of playing.. I rarely watch pba but evrytime i see gsm and jj playing as PG, parang prone sa errors and biglang tumitira.. Just my 2cents :)

Bro Allan,
Jj was really good during his MVP season...
ANg nawala sa kanya is yung kompiyansa nya at desire to win. Parang takot na cya lagi ngayon eh, probably because of his previous injury. But he was really good back then...

Hopefully makabawi ang Alaska next game.
No one expected them to reach semis.
Malaking factor to addition ni Casio and Abueva :)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: steelcrazy on Dec 21, 2012 at 06:50 AM
Ryan Reyes saving the night for TNT with a trey.
Sayang Alaska made a great comeback.
I hope Alaska can play with more intensity in their next game.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Dec 21, 2012 at 10:16 PM
Alaska's really going toe to toe with TNT.. they tie the series after a 100-88 win earlier.. Abueva, Casio and Baguio all showed up tonight.. it was an excellent coaching job by Luigi Trillo.. making Calvin come off the bench was a wise decision.. di agad na-foul trouble si Calvin at di nawala yung focus ng maaga.. again, a lot of cheap shots against Abueva earlier.. that slap on the face by Aban should have been a flagrant 2.. I hope Salud upgrades that foul..

the Abueva playing for Alaska is totally different from the one who played in the NCAA.. he's more patient, in control and smart.. andiyan pa yung angas, yung energy, yung yabang but it's all tempered.. and the most important thing, he plays within the system..

and Casio is turning out to be one of the smartest and most clutch point guards in the league.. one hell of a shooter and a very composed playmaker.. laban lang ng laban yung bata.. for me, he's the one guy in the league you should never leave open behind a 3pt line..

my play of the game was the sundot sa pwet by Jazul on Alapag.. napikon si Alapag at tinulak si Jazul.. offensive foul tuloy.. ;D

both semis now tied at 1-1.. that RoS-San Mig game 3 on Christmas is going to be highly physical.. galit si Guiao dahil na-eject so expect a bloody Christmas on game 3.. ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mattia on Dec 21, 2012 at 10:27 PM
Alaska's really going toe to toe with TNT.. they tie the series after a 100-88 win earlier.. Abueva, Casio and Baguio all showed up tonight.. it was an excellent coaching job by Luigi Trillo.. making Calvin come off the bench was a wise decision.. di agad na-foul trouble si Calvin at di nawala yung focus ng maaga.. again, a lot of cheap shots against Abueva earlier.. that slap on the face by Aban should have been a flagrant 2.. I hope Salud upgrades that foul..

the Abueva playing for Alaska is totally different from the one who played in the NCAA.. he's more patient, in control and smart.. andiyan pa yung angas, yung energy, yung yabang but it's all tempered.. and the most important thing, he plays within the system..

and Casio is turning out to be one of the smartest and most clutch point guards in the league.. one hell of a shooter and a very composed playmaker.. laban lang ng laban yung bata.. for me, he's the one guy in the league you should never leave open behind a 3pt line..

my play of the game was the sundot sa pwet by Jazul on Alapag.. napikon si Alapag at tinulak si Jazul.. offensive foul tuloy.. ;D

both semis now tied at 1-1.. that RoS-San Mig game 3 on Christmas is going to be highly physical.. galit si Guiao dahil na-eject so expect a bloody Christmas on game 3.. ;D


I have to agree with you here.  I used to hate Calvin a lot in the NCAA, being a Red Lion.  But now I find myself being a fan of Alaska and a balik PBA afficionado because of him.  Yes, I noticed his maturity and smarts too.  Husay!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: steelcrazy on Dec 22, 2012 at 09:38 AM
Abueva should be Rookie-MVP for bringing excitement to the PBA anew.
Iba tlga ang impact nya when playing on the court. Khit ilan pang knock down ang nararanasan nya in his rookie season.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Dec 26, 2012 at 10:54 PM
Abueva should be Rookie-MVP for bringing excitement to the PBA anew.
Iba tlga ang impact nya when playing on the court. Khit ilan pang knock down ang nararanasan nya in his rookie season.

If bringing excitement to the PBA is the basis for being Rookie-MVP then Dudut should have won. He brought excitement to the PBA just by standing up from the bench!  ;D

Abueva was thrown out of game 3 of the best-of-seven semifinal between TnT and Alaska for two flagrant fouls. I guess his penchance for "panggugulang" and "pasimpleng tira" is catching up with him. The referees are concentrating on him.

Baguio was also thrown out with a flagrant 2 foul on Castro. It was a very hard double hit, an elbow to the jaw and followed by a hack to the face. He probably would be suspended and miss the next game.

Espinas, actually, was the first player to be thrown out for a technical foul for a fighting stance. But the referees change the call to a flagrant 1 foul and recalled him from the dug-out.

Alaska must be doing something right. They have been able to minimize the offensive games of Castro and Alapag. But, still, TnT has too much firepower. Alaska, also, has to contain the shooters and the big men of TnT and it's easier said than done.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Dec 27, 2012 at 01:05 PM
I'd be surprised if Salud suspends Baguio. First, Salud rarely suspends anyone. Second, Baguio has no reputation as a dirty player. Third, it's the semis and Baguio is Alaska's main man. Salud wouldn't dare put Alaska at a disadvantage given Uytengsu's penchant for criticizing his actions, or lack thereof.

What happened last night was the referees' fault. They allowed too much physical play from both teams in the first 2 games. Alaska was bound to get physical after all the hits they've been taking this conference. I'm actually surprised at those calls against Calvin. Those didn't even come close to the ones he got from Aban or Rob Reyes.

Alaska has to go back to what was working for them. They have to deny Alapag the ball sa simula pa lang. Hontiveros played excellent denial defense on him in the 1st 2 games. If Jimmy gets his groove assist-wise, mahihirapan Alaska. Williams had great game last night because Jimmy was able to find him.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Dec 27, 2012 at 04:31 PM
I'd be surprised if Salud suspends Baguio. First, Salud rarely suspends anyone. Second, Baguio has no reputation as a dirty player. Third, it's the semis and Baguio is Alaska's main man. Salud wouldn't dare put Alaska at a disadvantage given Uytengsu's penchant for criticizing his actions, or lack thereof.

What happened last night was the referees' fault. They allowed too much physical play from both teams in the first 2 games. Alaska was bound to get physical after all the hits they've been taking this conference. I'm actually surprised at those calls against Calvin. Those didn't even come close to the ones he got from Aban or Rob Reyes.

Alaska has to go back to what was working for them. They have to deny Alapag the ball sa simula pa lang. Hontiveros played excellent denial defense on him in the 1st 2 games. If Jimmy gets his groove assist-wise, mahihirapan Alaska. Williams had great game last night because Jimmy was able to find him.

The flagrant foul 1 Castro got from Abueva was basically an errant flailing hand that caught him in the neck, no malicious intentions. The flagrant foul 2 Castro got from Baguio is a different case. Though Baguio has no reputation as a dirty player, the hack to the face was intentional. The elbow to the jaw, on the other hand, could be argued as incidental and due to their speed and movement. If Baguio is suspended, Alaska would really be at a disadvantage.

Abueva's intensity has its pros and cons. His intensity energizes his teammates but it can rub the referees the wrong way. If he is not careful, he may find himself in a position wherein the referees second guess his intentions much like the way Jaworski was called for a tripping foul for simply putting his foot forward on a driving player.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Dec 27, 2012 at 04:51 PM
The flagrant foul 1 Castro got from Abueva was basically an errant flailing hand that caught him in the neck, no malicious intentions. The flagrant foul 2 Castro got from Baguio is a different case. Though Baguio has no reputation as a dirty player, the hack to the face was intentional. The elbow to the jaw, on the other hand, could be argued as incidental and due to their speed and movement. If Baguio is suspended, Alaska would really be at a disadvantage.

Abueva's intensity has its pros and cons. His intensity energizes his teammates but it can rub the referees the wrong way. If he is not careful, he may find himself in a position wherein the referees second guess his intentions much like the way Jaworski was called for a tripping foul for simply putting his foot forward on a driving player.

It wasn't a flagrant foul. Just a technical for 2nd motion. He was ejected because he already had a previous flagrant 1 for tripping Harvey Carey.

Anyway, Baguio has not been suspended. He was just fined P30,000. Here's the statement by the commissioner's office:

"After carefully reviewing the FFP2 called on Cyrus Baguio and weighing his explanation of the circumstances leading to the flagrant foul, this office is upholding the flagrant foul called on him and is fining him the amt. of P30,000.00. No suspension is being meted out in this particular case after taking into consideration Baguio's explanation that he was indeed going to give Jason Castro a hard foul but realized at the last instant that he no longer had the chance to play for the ball. He tried to check himself but it was already too late to avoid the resulting contact. A close look at the replay confirmed Baguio's narration. There was no blatant follow through of Baguio's arm as it hit Castro's face. It was decidedly sheer momentum on his part that largely caused the hard contact on Castro. Nonetheless, this office stands by the FFP2 call for being unnecessary and excessive and fines Baguio."
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Dec 27, 2012 at 08:40 PM
It wasn't a flagrant foul. Just a technical for 2nd motion. He was ejected because he already had a previous flagrant 1 for tripping Harvey Carey.

Anyway, Baguio has not been suspended. He was just fined P30,000. Here's the statement by the commissioner's office:

"After carefully reviewing the FFP2 called on Cyrus Baguio and weighing his explanation of the circumstances leading to the flagrant foul, this office is upholding the flagrant foul called on him and is fining him the amt. of P30,000.00. No suspension is being meted out in this particular case after taking into consideration Baguio's explanation that he was indeed going to give Jason Castro a hard foul but realized at the last instant that he no longer had the chance to play for the ball. He tried to check himself but it was already too late to avoid the resulting contact. A close look at the replay confirmed Baguio's narration. There was no blatant follow through of Baguio's arm as it hit Castro's face. It was decidedly sheer momentum on his part that largely caused the hard contact on Castro. Nonetheless, this office stands by the FFP2 call for being unnecessary and excessive and fines Baguio."

My bad. I assumed it was also a flagrant 1 and not a technical foul that was called on Abueva. But it wasn't even a second motion on Abueva's part. It was simply gravity pulling down his arm. Castro's delayed reaction was just a case of trying to convince the referees that Abueva intentionally hit him. Castro wasn't even hurt. ::)

As for Baguio's explanation, and the commissioner's decision, so be it. Though how sheer momentum, the reason for the hard contact, could be deemed excessive is beyond my understanding. ???
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Dec 27, 2012 at 09:06 PM
Castro's just like Tubid. A huge flopper. Magaling naman pero dinadaan pa rin sa acting.

Anyway, RoS just took a 3-1 lead over San Mig. SMC just can't stop the bench mob of RoS. Talong talo si Tim Cone. Walang gana maglaro yung players niya. Ang lamya.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: frequenzy on Dec 27, 2012 at 11:13 PM
It was a very good acting job by castro and the refs fell for it. Sabi tuloy ni baguio cge umarte ka diyan :-)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Dec 28, 2012 at 09:53 AM
Jason Castro for all his scoring skills - is indeed a big flopper ...... he sure gets fouled a lot (due to his impressive bursts when turning defensive corners), but Castro just over-emphasizes the fouls that he gets.

The hit from Baguio was indeed excessive, but it was more from the speed that both Baguio and Castro were on ....... there was clear intention for the duty foul, but there was no intention to hurt - unlike the recent blatant hits that Abueva got from Aban, Reyes, etc.

=============================================================================

ROS is just a joy to watch on the floor ........ Yeng Guiao has indeed completed ROS' transformation from fringe contender to champ/perennial contender.

Transferees, low draftees, non-athletic scrubs, etc ..... Yeng Guiao makes them the best individuals that they can be and makes them work as a team.

SMC needs to overmatch ROS' energy if they want to steal this series ....... ROS just storms out of the gates to start games.

ROS = RED BULL 2.0.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: frequenzy on Dec 28, 2012 at 09:24 PM
nice win by alaska 2-2 na.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Dec 28, 2012 at 10:07 PM
Who would've thought that it's the Alaska-TNT series that's going to be close and physical?

TNT can't seem to figure out how to beat Alaska convincingly. In this series, both teams seem to be a carbon copy of the other. They both play excellent defense and they shoot a lot from the outside. The back court is the deciding factor. Low scoring or high scoring game, there's no clear indication as to which team has the advantage. Both teams have shown they can win whether it's a fast paced or deliberate game.

The question now, though, is how much does Alaska have left in the tank? In their wins, they needed everyone to have a great game. From the starters down to the bench. TNT, on the other hand, has won despite sub-par games from Alapag and Castro.

Alaska needs that Game 5 win more than TNT. You don't want to give this TNT team an opportunity to close out the series after a long rest.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Chain on Dec 30, 2012 at 02:30 PM
im a TnT fan but Man!Alaska amazes me on how they play! :)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: vinci on Dec 30, 2012 at 07:08 PM
Minsan lang makapanuod ng game palpak pa pinakita ni abueva. Sayang possession na yun!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Dec 30, 2012 at 07:24 PM
Minsan lang makapanuod ng game palpak pa pinakita ni abueva. Sayang possession na yun!

Yeah, what a time for NCAA Calvin to show up. Sayang but ganyan talaga. It's going to be hard lalo na against a TNT team but may chance pa. Never say die naman 'tong Alaska eh. Ayaw talaga bumigay. TNT is going to be a tired team going to the Finals if they do win this series. I don't think they ever expected this kind of series.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jan 01, 2013 at 11:50 AM
Ginebra finally replaces Tanquincen. I'm not so sure I like the replacement, though. I've never been impressed with Alfrancis Chua.

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/beginning-2013-with-a-bang-ginebra-replaces-tanquingcen-with-chua
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: steelcrazy on Jan 01, 2013 at 01:30 PM
Ginebra finally replaces Tanquincen. I'm not so sure I like the replacement, though. I've never been impressed with Alfrancis Chua.

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/beginning-2013-with-a-bang-ginebra-replaces-tanquingcen-with-chua

With Chua calling the shots for Ginebra, expect a more run and gun style that will eventually bring out the best from Tenorio, Helterbrand and Caguioa.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Chain on Jan 01, 2013 at 07:40 PM
lets see if coach Alf can still bring out the best of this team ;)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Jan 02, 2013 at 08:03 AM
Alfrancis Chua would be a better fit for BGK ...... if only to remove the very outdated substitution patterns (read: play everyone) and limited hi-low plays of Tanquincen & Uichico.

It doesn't mean that Chua will lead BGK to championships ...... right now, he's just a more logical option to the outdated system of the Jacobs boys e.g. Tanquincen, Uichico, Sauler, etc.

I had close ties with the old SLR teams ...... Chua is indeed a players-coach; someone who lets the players freelance on offense and run with abandon.

Another good thing, Chua is a fitness-freak ...... he will run endless drills to get his players in running-mode.

However, Chua is known to play favorites and will pamper even known locker-room cancers.

During the old SLR days, Chua allowed certain star-players (read: lazy Marlou) to beg-off from participating in training ...... even without a valid medical excuse.  ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: steelcrazy on Jan 02, 2013 at 09:14 PM
Chua loves fast break drills in practice so expect high scoring games from Ginebra.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: rukawakaide1721 on Jan 03, 2013 at 08:01 PM
SHIFTY GUARD, BIG GUY ON THE MOVE (http://pba.inquirer.net/8313/shifty-guard-big-guy-on-the-move) ???



There’s a lot of buzz inside the camp of this Underachieving Team.

Expectations were high the team will finally get a place among the elite ballclubs where many believe it should be in the ongoing PBA Philippine Cup, especially when a number of its key players were placed back on active duty after spending time on sick bay.

But disappointment of all disappointments…the team finished the eliminations in the bottom half of the standings and got off to an early Christmas break.

Now comes news from The Mill that at least a couple of manpower changes may be happening sooner than later.

One, this Shifty Guard who can baffle his defender with his acrobatic moves to the basket may find himself playing for another team which is about to hire a new head coach who can typify the fiery nature and image of the ballclub.

It won’t be hard for Shifty Guard to adjust once the deal becomes official since his new head coach has spent the past few seasons on the bench of his present team.

Shifty Guard has been a star and certified scorer from grade school to college. He has a “foreign warrior” as a monicker.

In return, Underachieving Team will get a gutsy veteran known for his tough-nosed defense as well as better than decent offensive game. He can topscore for any team if he hits his stride, and can get on the nerves of opposing scorers.

Gutsy Veteran spent a number of years playing for a team closely associated with Underachieving Team before being shipped to his present club.

Another change may see Big Fil-Am moving from Underachieving Team to Team Newcomer.

Not too long ago, talks were ripe that this Big Fil-Am, a veteran forward, was already set to be transferred, but he did get to finish the conference with Underachieving Team. The move may finally happen this time, and being a big man with an inside-outside game, Big Fil-Am won’t come cheap.

Team Newcomer is said to be ready to part ways with a local-bred rookie big guy who has been named best performer in several amateur commercial leagues as well as a future draft pick.

What draft pick? Venture a guess?

Team Newcomer is hoping Big Fil-Am will henceforth spend more time on the floor that on the Injured/Reserve List.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jan 03, 2013 at 08:12 PM
^Joseph Yeo for Roger Yap and Jay Washington for Vic Manuel + picks.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Jan 03, 2013 at 09:00 PM
ROS wins it's semis series against SMC ...... despite being on the very short end of so many questionable referees calls (they're against a Danding team after all).

Hope this game makes some of those fantards realize what James Yap is ..... a very volume and very low-percentage shooter.

=========================================================

Hope that ALASKA somehow makes it to the Finals ........ an Abueva match-up against ROS' extra-rice boys would be classic.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on Jan 03, 2013 at 09:11 PM
^ plus 1.. And most of their starters are homegrown talents, players we used to watch in uaap and ncaa.. Nice..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: frequenzy on Jan 04, 2013 at 01:02 AM
cone lost again to ros. contrapelo talaga ng smc ang ros. may import man or wala hirap talaga sila
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: steelcrazy on Jan 04, 2013 at 03:25 PM
Kudos to Coach Yeng. I've just realize that he has transformed the ROS team to a very unpredictable solid competitive team with unheralded players.
I dont think any other coach could have done better with ROS current line up.

I want to see ROS play the champion team in TNT rather than Alaska which may be quite inexperience.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jan 04, 2013 at 09:23 PM
TNT finally dispatches Alaska after 6 hard-fought games. They were just deeper than Alaska but Alaska had the better coach in this series. The TNT players bailed Norman Black out in this series, particularly Ryan Reyes, Alapag and Castro. He was totally out-coached by Trillo the whole time.

Alaska has to feel good about this. They were one good stop away from a game 7 with the defending champs.

Abueva's probably going to get the BPC award. And he deserves it. He is going to be the PBA's future. This early, he's made Alaska a team to watch. No other rookie has had this much impact on the league since the entry of the Fil-Foreigners led by Danny Seigle.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: steelcrazy on Jan 05, 2013 at 07:36 AM
Alaska's gamble on the young Thrillo seemed to pay off as he got better experience for future wars.
Abueva just spiced up the PBA making Alaska a very exciting team to watch.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on Jan 05, 2013 at 10:07 AM
Sayang,  but this is going to be a nice series.. physical d team vs. High scoring disciplined o.. i like ros.. but i also like watching dilinger, i still think he is one of the most talented player right now.. lipat na lng sya.. :)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Jan 05, 2013 at 12:09 PM
Sayang,  but this is going to be a nice series.. physical d team vs. High scoring disciplined o.. i like ros.. but i also like watching dilinger, i still think he is one of the most talented player right now.. lipat na lng sya.. :)

He got more playing time under Black. Kay Reyes limited ang playing time niya at siguradong bangko na come second half and crucial times.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Chain on Jan 06, 2013 at 09:01 AM
TNT finally dispatches Alaska after 6 hard-fought games. They were just deeper than Alaska but Alaska had the better coach in this series. The TNT players bailed Norman Black out in this series, particularly Ryan Reyes, Alapag and Castro. He was totally out-coached by Trillo the whole time.

Alaska has to feel good about this. They were one good stop away from a game 7 with the defending champs.

Abueva's probably going to get the BPC award. And he deserves it. He is going to be the PBA's future. This early, he's made Alaska a team to watch. No other rookie has had this much impact on the league since the entry of the Fil-Foreigners led by Danny Seigle.

is he still gonna make it to the elusive rookie mvp title? hopefully but im quite skeptical.

his presence in the PBA was very much felt that lots of people came back to watching the games
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jan 06, 2013 at 04:01 PM
is he still gonna make it to the elusive rookie mvp title? hopefully but im quite skeptical.

his presence in the PBA was very much felt that lots of people came back to watching the games

I doubt he would win rookie-mvp.. he's got a chance but he won't win it.. I won't even be surprised if he loses the BPC this conference.. he leads in statistical points after the semis among those who played in the semis.. Castro and De Ocampo still have games to play though.. Calvin will get the media votes but I doubt he'll get the players' votes..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Jan 07, 2013 at 08:14 AM
Not likely that Abueva wins the BPC now ...... Castro looks like a safe betting choice. However, when making a case for Abueva:

** Stats - He's right there ..... IIRC stats are averaged numbers and not cumulative - though if it were cumulative, he'd still be there.

** Votes - He's made quite an impact ..... he's sure to get good buzz from the voting media.

He might actually get considerable player votes, even from rival players ...... moreso from Fil-Ams, who value that kind of relentlessness. Just can't help but admire the guy's passion on the court.

** Others - Both TnT and RoS are currently the best models for TEAM play ..... there's not one from both teams who consistently stand-out e.g. shot-hogging star ..... Castro is perhaps the closest one who does stand-out.


Votes & stats might be diluted a bit ...... just might have Abueva eke out a BPC win.  ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jan 07, 2013 at 01:33 PM
Abueva actually leads Castro is statistical points after the semis.. he's got 31 and Castro has 29.6.. Santos still leads at 35.1.. SPs are 40%.. Abueva will definitely get the media votes which is 30%.. whichever way the vote goes, Abueva and Castro both deserve it.. wag lang nila ibigay kay Arwind or Mercado.. or even Ranidel, who's the other candidate left..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: frequenzy on Jan 07, 2013 at 01:36 PM
i would think castro or chan could possibly win BPC
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jan 07, 2013 at 01:41 PM
i would think castro or chan could possibly win BPC

I'm 100% sure Chan wouldn't win it. Why? Hindi siya kasali sa pinagpipilian. Only the Top 5 in statistical points after the semis are included in the ballot.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: frequenzy on Jan 07, 2013 at 02:07 PM
I'm 100% sure Chan wouldn't win it. Why? Hindi siya kasali sa pinagpipilian. Only the Top 5 in statistical points after the semis are included in the ballot.
pang 7 pala si chan sa unofficial. leader pa rin sa santos. then i guess it would be castro, if alaska won the series abueva might win the award
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Jan 08, 2013 at 12:44 PM
trade rumors:

Last week, the Philippine Daily Inquirer reported a trade rumor involving Underachieving Team and Team Newcomer with Big Fil-Am and Local-bred Rookie Big Guy the players involved. But it seems like both the Underachieving Team, Team P, and Team Newcomer, Team GP, are not satisfied with it, so they come up with a new plan.

Reports say that a third team, Team G, is joining the proposal, and Team GP is set to get LITTLE ROB from Team G aside from the Big Fil-Am of Team P, the WHITE HOUSE. Team P, meanwhile, is set to get another Team G player, the HIGH-FLYING WARRIOR, apart from the Local-bred Rookie Big Guy of Team GP, the MUSCLE MAN. Team G, of course will not leave the trading block empty-handed as they are set to get Team GP's MANG DANNY. The HIGH-FLYING WARRIOR's name both start with the same vowel.

Team P (Petron) -- Vic Manuel, Elmer Espiritu
Team GP (Global Port) --Labagala, Washington
Team G (Ginebra) -- AJ Mandani, 2013 2nd round draft pick
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on Jan 09, 2013 at 08:41 PM
Parang sira ung audio ng pba.. paulet ulet
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: munky8 on Jan 09, 2013 at 11:23 PM
tnt winning game 1...

i think ros respected tnt way too much, no altercations >:D, hard physical defense where ros is known for, got to give the credit to tnts defense and good preparation as well by n.black hehehe just my 2 cents...
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jan 10, 2013 at 11:12 PM
A bit of good news for Philippine basketball. The hosting rights for the FIBA Championships this year has been awarded to the Philippines. This is going to be a qualifier for the World Championships next year in Spain. 3 slots are available. It was supposedly going to happen in Lebanon but it's currently unstable there. It will be on August 1-13.

Now, it's time to form the best team. Petron should really release guys like Fajardo, Arwind, Lassiter, Lutz and even Cabagnot. Nakakahiya naman kung hindi ang pinakamagaling ang ihaharap natin sa ating sariling mga kababayan.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Jan 11, 2013 at 04:05 AM
A bit of good news for Philippine basketball. The hosting rights for the FIBA Championships this year has been awarded to the Philippines. This is going to be a qualifier for the World Championships next year in Spain. 3 slots are available. It was supposedly going to happen in Lebanon but it's currently unstable there. It will be on August 1-13.

Now, it's time to form the best team. Petron should really release guys like Fajardo, Arwind, Lassiter, Lutz and even Cabagnot. Nakakahiya naman kung hindi ang pinakamagaling ang ihaharap natin sa ating sariling mga kababayan.

Will we be allowed to field in two teams kasi tayo ang host?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mikz023 on Jan 11, 2013 at 08:10 AM
A bit of good news for Philippine basketball. The hosting rights for the FIBA Championships this year has been awarded to the Philippines. This is going to be a qualifier for the World Championships next year in Spain. 3 slots are available. It was supposedly going to happen in Lebanon but it's currently unstable there. It will be on August 1-13.

Now, it's time to form the best team. Petron should really release guys like Fajardo, Arwind, Lassiter, Lutz and even Cabagnot. Nakakahiya naman kung hindi ang pinakamagaling ang ihaharap natin sa ating sariling mga kababayan.

Great news. Hopefully, all PBA teams lend their ace player to the national team. That would be a great boost to our PH team. Since ang usapan na dito is the WC in Spain. And we know that hindi din ppitsugin ang ipapadala ng ibang bansa lalo na ang China. We need a solid and formidable players sa PH team ntin.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jan 11, 2013 at 09:40 AM
Suggestion lang for a Philippine Line Up...

1. Junmar Fajardo
2. Marc Pingris
3. Jeff Chan
4. Peter Jun Simon
5. LA Tenerio
6. Arwind Santos
7. Marc Caguiao
8. Gary David
9. Gabe Norwood
10. Ranidel De Ocampo
11. JV Casio
12. Jared Dillinger
13. Paul Lee
14. Jimmy Alapag
15. Calvin Abueva

Reserve:
1. Sonny Thoss
2. James Yap
3. Alex Cabagnot

Hopefully lahat nga sana ng PBA Teams mag give way for this very good opportunity especially the SMB Teams.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: rafa_palma on Jan 11, 2013 at 10:28 AM
We still need some height specially against China.. put in Slaughter or Douthit maybe? (if eligible)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jan 11, 2013 at 09:07 PM
Will we be allowed to field in two teams kasi tayo ang host?

The only perk for hosting is automatic seeding for the event. Since tapos na yung qualifiers sa event na 'to, pointless na yung perk na yan. Two teams will never be allowed kasi by country ang representation sa FIBA. Isang bansa lang naman ang Pilipinas.

Anyway, TNT is now up 2-0 vs ROS. Parang ang dali ng basketball for TNT so far. Kinakain ni Ranidel yung mga bantay niya which shouldn't be happening kasi ang daming malaki ng ROS. And Castro gets to the basket so easily. Ang bukas palagi ng lane.

As for ROS, parang wala sila sa Finals. Parang starstruck yung mga players. Ang lamya at walang angas. And people should really stop comparing Jeff Chan to Allan Caidic. Pareho lang silang kaliwete but beyond that, wala ng similarities. Chan is just so inconsistent. Now you see him, now you don't yung performance ni Chan. He can't knock down wide open shots, what more those with a hand on his face? If ROS doesn't win Game 3, TNT will definitely sweep them.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: garee on Jan 11, 2013 at 11:52 PM
when was a sweep in the pba last happened?
its all for business now.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 12, 2013 at 12:30 AM
when was a sweep in the pba last happened?
its all for business now.

seems like TNT is way too much for ROS
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: james16 on Jan 12, 2013 at 01:31 AM
Hindi ko maalala kung saka sakaling na nagkaron ng iisang team na all Filipino champion ng three straight years.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jan 12, 2013 at 01:42 AM
Hindi ko maalala kung saka sakaling na nagkaron ng iisang team na all Filipino champion ng three straight years.

Wala pa. That's why they introduced the Jun Bernardino Perpetual trophy as an added incentive. Any team who wins 3 straight Philippine Cup titles will get that trophy.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: steelcrazy on Jan 12, 2013 at 09:00 AM
Suggestion lang for a Philippine Line Up...

1. Junmar Fajardo
2. Marc Pingris
3. Jeff Chan
4. Peter Jun Simon
5. LA Tenerio
6. Arwind Santos
7. Marc Caguiao
8. Gary David
9. Gabe Norwood
10. Ranidel De Ocampo
11. JV Casio
12. Jared Dillinger
13. Paul Lee
14. Jimmy Alapag
15. Calvin Abueva

Reserve:
1. Sonny Thoss
2. James Yap
3. Alex Cabagnot

Hopefully lahat nga sana ng PBA Teams mag give way for this very good opportunity especially the SMB Teams.

so bale wala na un Gilas 2? coz Coach Chot should be starting training with these PROs.
Most probably half of the team will be represented by players from TNT like
Alapag
Castro
Fonacier
Reyes
Williams
de Ocampo
Dillinger
Import: Marcus Douhit

Other desirable candidates should be:
Arwin Santos
Marc Pingris
Junmar Fajardo
LA Tenorio
Gabe Norwood
Sonny Thoss

Asi Taulava may also be considered to add more bulk, ceiling and experience in limited minutes.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Chain on Jan 12, 2013 at 02:10 PM
RoS cant handle Tnt's firepower!Way to go tropa! ;)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: frequenzy on Jan 12, 2013 at 02:29 PM
RoS cant handle Tnt's firepower!Way to go tropa! ;)
main problem of ros is that tnt can run with them and more often tnt outruns them. unlike smc na hindi makasabay sa knila. yeng needs to adjust his gameplan otherwise its a possible sweep.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Chain on Jan 13, 2013 at 09:30 AM
lets go 3-0!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Blade on Jan 13, 2013 at 01:43 PM
di rin kaya ng xtra rice si peek at ranidel kasi mas malalaki at malakas sa kanila...waahhh...
 O0
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jan 13, 2013 at 08:31 PM
TNT is just too good for ROS. I thought ROS played well enough in this game to actually win it but TNT was just too good. Alapag's turn tonight to lead TNT. One win away from a sweep. Buti pa Alaska, pinahirapan ang TNT. Di man lang pinaporma and ROS.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mikz023 on Jan 13, 2013 at 09:37 PM
nangangamoy champion na for TnT.. :)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jan 13, 2013 at 11:08 PM
This will be a rare All Filipino Cup 3 Peat...

Advance congrats to TnT :)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: rafa_palma on Jan 14, 2013 at 10:51 AM
Hoping for a sweep para di mukhang "business". Also glad in a way that these 2 teams are not "sisters" kundi aabot pa to ng
game 7. :D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Jan 14, 2013 at 12:53 PM
TnT proving too much for ROS this Finals series ....... just too much firepower from all positions.

ROS finally showed their true identity in Game 3, but still came up short.

=======================================================================

One more good thing that will likely happen (re: RP awarded FIBA Championships hosting duties) ....... it will definitely bring great pressure for SMC to finally release their players to GILAS.  ;D

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mikz023 on Jan 14, 2013 at 12:59 PM
TnT proving too much for ROS this Finals series ....... just too much firepower from all positions.

ROS finally showed their true identity in Game 3, but still came up short.

=======================================================================

One more good thing that will likely happen (re: RP awarded FIBA Championships hosting duties) ....... it will definitely bring great pressure for SMC to finally release their players to GILAS.  ;D



if SMC still don't lend their players from our PH national team..shame on them. Parang trinaydor mo na ang sarili mong bansa.
 
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: jericm on Jan 14, 2013 at 01:16 PM
I wonder why Yeng Guiao is quiet? Arrogance and confidence snuffed out? 
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Jan 14, 2013 at 01:34 PM
I wonder why Yeng Guiao is quiet? Arrogance and confidence snuffed out? 

TnT blew ROS out of the water in games 1 & 2 ...... nothing much to shout about there.

ROS finally played good basketball in game 3, but TnT just proved to be better, again ....... I do agree with Guiao, about a few bad calls against ROS during that tight 4th quarter.

=========================================================================

I beg to differ about Yeng Guiao being arrogant ...... he is confident; but confidence in a league being manipulated (player transactions, salary caps, etc) by a huge corporation is actually a good thing.

Talking confidence to a ragtag crew and showing great results is admirable IMO.

He talks tough and heaps abuses on the floor - much like most other seasoned coaches out there ..... but the good thing about Guiao - he talks tough on all sides ...... he berates both officials and his players.

I'd take Guiao's "arrogance" over Tim Cone's endless on-the-court whining & obvious hypocrisy.

I'd take Guiao's "arrogance" over Chot Reyes' tendency to throw his players under the bus, when things don't go his way.

I'd take Guiao's "arrogance" over Ryan Gregorio's endless talking and narcissism.

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: rukawakaide1721 on Jan 14, 2013 at 03:47 PM

I'd take Guiao's "arrogance" over Chot Reyes' tendency to throw his players under the bus, when things don't go his way.


Very good example of this is the current Dubai invitational where smart gilas 2 losses to Al Ahli Club of UAE, nag gagawa siya ng play sa drawing board at sa sobrang galit ay sinuntok niya ang board niya after magawa niya ang play….
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Jan 14, 2013 at 05:18 PM
Chot Reyes has had a long history of calling out his players, when losing games.

Just a few conferences ago, TnT suffered consecutive losses - sure enough Reyes berates Ali Peek and Jason Castro in full view of the camera and calls them out during the post-game interviews.

The old SANTA LUCIA team even instigated a mutiny of sorts to oust him during his coaching stint there.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: rafa_palma on Jan 15, 2013 at 10:55 AM
Yeng Guiao was asked if he can make history and take the title with 4 straight wins.
His answer? "History? Di nga kami maka-isa, history pa?" LMAO. Sounds like giving up on TnT. :D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Jan 15, 2013 at 07:17 PM
Yeng Guiao was asked if he can make history and take the title with 4 straight wins.
His answer? "History? Di nga kami maka-isa, history pa?" LMAO. Sounds like giving up on TnT. :D

What answer was expected? If he answered "yes" they'd say he was being arrogant. He was just being Yeng. I believe he hasn't given up yet, but he is frustrated. His players have to find the will and the way to win.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jan 16, 2013 at 06:58 PM
Castro won the BPC. No surprise there. Abueva was a far 3rd overall, behind Ranidel. What surprised me was that he was a far 3rd in media votes as well, 482 for Castro and just 130 for Abueva.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Nikkie on Jan 16, 2013 at 07:08 PM
Castro won the BPC. No surprise there. Abueva was a far 3rd overall, behind Ranidel. What surprised me was that he was a far 3rd in media votes as well, 482 for Castro and just 130 for Abueva.

Boo! I smell MVP's money here...
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jan 16, 2013 at 07:11 PM
Castro deserved the BPC. No doubt about that. And Ranidel's performance in the finals has helped boost his chances. I'm just surprised that Abueva was too far in the media votes.

Anyway, 1stQ pa lang, 18pts na lamang ng TNT. The sweep is looming.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Jan 16, 2013 at 08:30 PM
Castro won the BPC. No surprise there. Abueva was a far 3rd overall, behind Ranidel. What surprised me was that he was a far 3rd in media votes as well, 482 for Castro and just 130 for Abueva.

He needs a manager/pr man who is influential/persistent in promoting him much like Nap Gutierrez was for Alvin Patrimonio and Ronnie Nathanielz was for Benjie Paras.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: khumpleetist on Jan 16, 2013 at 09:05 PM
Wahapend? Na-massacre ang ROS.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Jan 16, 2013 at 09:12 PM
Wahapend? Na-massacre ang ROS.

Talk n Text was simply the better team, both in offense and defense!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: jericm on Jan 17, 2013 at 09:13 AM
SWEEP!!! The way TnT played the whole series, there was no way RoS can steal even a single win.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: rafa_palma on Jan 17, 2013 at 09:34 AM
PBA Online: "Abueva playing as a 'hugot' in Bulacan without Aces' consent."

Gano kaya ka-totoo ito? I don't know about players contracts but you just can't do this without your team knowing it. :D
Title: Re: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: SiCkBoY on Jan 17, 2013 at 04:22 PM
PBA Online: "Abueva playing as a 'hugot' in Bulacan without Aces' consent."

Gano kaya ka-totoo ito? I don't know about players contracts but you just can't do this without your team knowing it. :D

I doubt this. He'd be playing for a pittance compared to what he's earning and what he could lose.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jan 17, 2013 at 04:25 PM
PBA Online: "Abueva playing as a 'hugot' in Bulacan without Aces' consent."

Gano kaya ka-totoo ito? I don't know about players contracts but you just can't do this without your team knowing it. :D

I doubt this. He'd be playing for a pittance compared to what he's earning and what he could lose.

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/abueva-caught-playing-as-a-hugot-in-bulacan-without-aces-consent

There's a video there and Salud has already summoned Abueva. Even Luigi said that he talked to Abueva about it and Uytengsu is expected to address it.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 17, 2013 at 07:46 PM
this league in Sta Maria is really something. Not sure though why Abueva was singled out, Its a traidion in this town, I recalled when I was still playing, Duremdes, Agustin, Aquino among others play here also, and this is when they were already PBA superstars.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Jan 17, 2013 at 08:32 PM
this league in Sta Maria is really something. Not sure though why Abueva was singled out, Its a traidion in this town, I recalled when I was still playing, Duremdes, Agustin, Aquino among others play here also, and this is when they were already PBA superstars.

Even in baranggay leagues, known players can be requested to participate as guest players, from the college varsity player to the commercial league player to professional player. This would give the local boys the chance to play with real athletes and compete with them. This would give the locals a chance to see these athletes play without having to pay. Pakiusapan at pakikisama! But, nowadays, with the easy access to cameras, instead of being contented with being able to get photographs of these players, everyone needs to be a scoop reporter.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Jan 18, 2013 at 08:37 PM
I doubt this. He'd be playing for a pittance compared to what he's earning and what he could lose.

this happens. miller did it a number of times when he was still with alaska. madalas sya sa olongapo. and he was fined everytime. however, he did not receive any fee for playing. when a friend of mine asked him why he kept on doing that even if he was always being fined, his reply was "ok lang yun. magkano lang yung fine. di mapapantayan nun yung kasiyahan ng mga fans, lalo na ung mga batana nakakalaro ko."

-0-0-0-

on another note:

this was allegedly asi's tweet today:

"My dream B4 retiring is 2 play 1 season 4 GSM. Hope 1 day I get dat chance! I just want 2 feel da support of best loyal fans."
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Chorus on Jan 20, 2013 at 11:17 AM
this happens. miller did it a number of times when he was still with alaska. madalas sya sa olongapo. and he was fined everytime. however, he did not receive any fee for playing. when a friend of mine asked him why he kept on doing that even if he was always being fined, his reply was "ok lang yun. magkano lang yung fine. di mapapantayan nun yung kasiyahan ng mga fans, lalo na ung mga batana nakakalaro ko."



-0-0-0-

on another note:

this was allegedly asi's tweet today:

"My dream B4 retiring is 2 play 1 season 4 GSM. Hope 1 day I get dat chance! I just want 2 feel da support of best loyal fans."

Nice inputs
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Chain on Jan 20, 2013 at 11:28 AM

on another note:

this was allegedly asi's tweet today:

"My dream B4 retiring is 2 play 1 season 4 GSM. Hope 1 day I get dat chance! I just want 2 feel da support of best loyal fans."

may be waiting for his second wind to come out.baka un lang inaantay nya para mailabas ulet ung ASI in his younger days
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 21, 2013 at 09:01 PM
nasan na ba si Asi?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jan 21, 2013 at 10:11 PM
nasan na ba si Asi?

He's playing for San Miguel in the ABL together with Menk..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Nikkie on Jan 22, 2013 at 02:27 PM
Sana matuloy ang pagtrade kay Abueva papunta sa Ginebra. If there's any truth to that. :D
Title: PBA Season 38
Post by: onepaks on Jan 22, 2013 at 02:35 PM
5 team 10 player trade now for approval.  On the way to the commissioners office.

Petron gets tubid

San mig gets Mallari Najorda Alvarez and barako 2014 first round

Barako gets Intal duncil maliksi Jonas

Alaska gets Ramos

Ginebra gets baracael

All teams have signed in already. Now waiting for commisioners approval.


Fair?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jan 22, 2013 at 02:36 PM
Sana matuloy ang pagtrade kay Abueva papunta sa Ginebra. If there's any truth to that. :D

It's not true. Here's the current trade proposal that's being reviewed by the commissioner.

Petron will get Tubid from Barako in exchange for Mallari and Duncil.
Barako will then trade Mallari, Najorda, Lester Alvarez and a 2014 1st round pick to San Mig Coffee for Jonas Villianueva, JC Intal and Aldrech Ramos.
Barako will trade Aldrech Ramos to Alaska for Baracael.
Barako will then ship Baracael to Ginebra for Maliksi.

In summary:

Petron - will get Tubid, lose Mallari and Duncil
San Mig Coffee - will get Mallari, Alvarez, Najorda, 2014 1st rd pick, lose Villanueva, Intal, Ramos
Alaska - will get Ramos, lose Baracael
Ginebra - will get Baracael, will lose Maliksi
Barako - will get J. Villanueva, Intal, Maliksi, Duncil, lose Tubid, Najorda, Alvarez, 2014 1st rd pick

For me, Petron is the loser in this trade. They let go of Mallari too soon. Barako and San Mig are the clear winners if this gets approved. And the Ramos to Alaska is a good move. Baracael never really got the triangle.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Chain on Jan 22, 2013 at 04:05 PM
interesting developments.cant wait for the next season to start
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jan 22, 2013 at 05:36 PM
The trade has been approved. Good trade for Alaska, Barako and San Mig. Not that much impact for Petron and Ginebra.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Jan 22, 2013 at 06:47 PM
It's not true. Here's the current trade proposal that's being reviewed by the commissioner.

Petron will get Tubid from Barako in exchange for Mallari and Duncil.
Barako will then trade Mallari, Najorda, Lester Alvarez and a 2014 1st round pick to San Mig Coffee for Jonas Villianueva, JC Intal and Aldrech Ramos.
Barako will trade Aldrech Ramos to Alaska for Baracael.
Barako will then ship Baracael to Ginebra for Maliksi.

In summary:

Petron - will get Tubid, lose Mallari and Duncil
San Mig Coffee - will get Mallari, Alvarez, Najorda, 2014 1st rd pick, lose Villanueva, Intal, Ramos
Alaska - will get Ramos, lose Baracael
Ginebra - will get Baracael, will lose Maliksi
Barako - will get J. Villanueva, Intal, Maliksi, Duncil, lose Tubid, Najorda, Alvarez, 2014 1st rd pick

For me, Petron is the loser in this trade. They let go of Mallari too soon. Barako and San Mig are the clear winners if this gets approved. And the Ramos to Alaska is a good move. Baracael never really got the triangle.

Petron(or as SMB before) has done this before. They let go LA Tenorio and Larry Fonacier too soon. Petron simply can't wait for a rookie to develop nowadays.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 22, 2013 at 08:00 PM
He's playing for San Miguel in the ABL together with Menk..

ouch, why did they allow this to happen to them
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Chorus on Jan 22, 2013 at 08:47 PM
nice trade for SMC but for me I'll choose Jonas for the meantime rather than Alvarez. Najorda and Mallari fits triangle they do perimeter shooting at range.Nice one Coach Tim.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: steelcrazy on Jan 24, 2013 at 09:00 PM
Petron(or as SMB before) has done this before. They let go LA Tenorio and Larry Fonacier too soon. Petron simply can't wait for a rookie to develop nowadays.

Magulo tlga ang composition of players ng mga SMC teams. They cant expect players to gell if they wont give time for them to mature and have good chemistry.
Lahat ng masahan gumaganda pagtumatagal.
Speaking of Fonacier, he's now having the last laugh playing for TNT w/c really formed their team very well.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Chorus on Jan 24, 2013 at 11:26 PM
Selino Cruz, Roger Yap, Urbiztondo, newly acquired Jonas

Hindi kaya overloaded na sa point guard ang Barako? Lalo yata lumiit line-up nila.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: SiCkBoY on Jan 25, 2013 at 09:49 AM
Security Agency na ba? Hahaha! 

Roger Yap often plays #2 naman, and Urbiz is better suited at that position as well.  The only pure pointguard amongst the four is Celino Cruz.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Jan 25, 2013 at 02:16 PM
i think that, eventually, one of them will be traded. ginebra used to have a very fully-loaded guard line-up -- cortez, labagala, j. wilson, aquino, helterbrand, caguioa (who did i miss?). and now there are only four -- cagioua, helterbrand, tenorio and labagala.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Jan 26, 2013 at 05:54 AM
Selino Cruz, Roger Yap, Urbiztondo, newly acquired Jonas

Hindi kaya overloaded na sa point guard ang Barako? Lalo yata lumiit line-up nila.

BARAKO also has Eman Monfort in it's lineup ...... that's 5 PG's in their roster.

To add more confusion to the strange mix, new recruit Jojo Duncil is a SG who has mostly played PG chores for his former teams.

Well one shouldn't be surprised anymore, when BARAKO BULL makes head-shaking player trades.

This is a PBA team being fronted by Bert Lina & George Chua ...... and "secretly" owned by SMC.

The number of WTF trades that this SMC team este BARAKO team has been astounding.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: rafa_palma on Jan 30, 2013 at 12:03 PM
New trade rumors circulating.. how true?

Sol Mercado & Jwash to Globalport, Rabeh to TnT, Japeth Aguilar & Chris Ross to Ginebra, plus more...
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jan 30, 2013 at 03:28 PM
Sol Mercado is pissed he's getting traded after playing his best conference. Meralco should fire Ryan Gregorio instead of trading Mercado. They're also about to trade Ronjay Buenafe to Air21. They'll get Ballesteros back from Barako for a pick then ship him together with Buenafe to Air21 for Baclao and John Wilson. Meralco is basically freeing up the spot for Cardona. They're choosing Cardona over Mercado. Really stupid move.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: steelcrazy on Jan 30, 2013 at 11:22 PM
Meralco made Cardona its franchise player when they got him from TNT.
He was playing excellent that time for TNT.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Jan 31, 2013 at 11:12 AM
GLOBAL PORT making major trades ..... pending Comm's approval. UPDATED: Comm. already approves of the trades.

1.) GLOBAL gets Japeth Aguilar --- TnT gets Al-Hussaini


GLOBAL & TnT basically exchanging known headcases ..... seriously, it's a fair trade for both.

TnT finally gets that legit big, to eventually replace the retiring Ali Peek ...... GLOBAL gets that "name" player to replace the team headcase.


2.) GLOBAL gets Sol Mercado, Kelly Nabong, Aljamal & Belencion --- MERALCO gets Rey Guevarra, Vic Manuel, Josh Vanlandingham & 2015 pick.

The fraud Ryan Gregorio strikes again ...... terrible trade for MERALCO.

I've never been a big fan of Mercado - largely inconsistent and streaky ..... but the guy did lead the PBA in scoring last conference, plus gives great effort for every game.

In exchange for Mercado, they get an even more inconsistent Rey Guevarra ...... Vic Manuel has good upside, but the kid plays way too eager ..... shades of Ruben Dela Rosa from years ago.

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Jan 31, 2013 at 03:59 PM
the winner in this trade? -- mac cardona.  ;D

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: rony on Jan 31, 2013 at 04:19 PM
maugong din dati ang balita na for trade si cardona pero bakit si soul train pa naisip nila ibigay ??? Ang ganda ng stats niya last conference ah.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: rafa_palma on Jan 31, 2013 at 04:42 PM
Sol Mercado will now play along side Miller & David. Agawan sa bola to.. lol :D

Chance for Japeth to redeem himself. :)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Jan 31, 2013 at 04:51 PM
maugong din dati ang balita na for trade si cardona pero bakit si soul train pa naisip nila ibigay ??? Ang ganda ng stats niya last conference ah.

i don't think they will trade mac cardona. i believe ryan gregorio made him the franchise player of meralco.

Sol Mercado will now play along side Miller & David. Agawan sa bola to.. lol :D

Chance for Japeth to redeem himself. :)

unless japeth takes right medicine to cure his swell head, i don't think he could ever redeem himself. he has a lot of potential, though. unfortunately, he's just that...full of  potentials.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Jan 31, 2013 at 08:31 PM
GLOBAL PORT has gotten much deeper ....... but it'll be a challenge for Baculi to get chemistry, since Miller, Mercado and David are all ball-centric players.

All three guards don't play off-the-ball well ...... they need that ball for a good chunk of the 24-second shotclock, in order to get going.

If I were Romero, I'd trade Miller now ...... while he still has nice value.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Feb 01, 2013 at 03:52 PM
Another trade rumor corculating ---

Ginebra To Get Jay Washington and Mandani In GlobalPort’s New Trade Proposal:

GlobalPort Batang Pier owner Mr. Mikee Romero seems to be 100% serious when he said that he wants GlobalPort to be better as soon as possible. A new trade rumor involving GlobalPort has been divulged. This time around, they are allegedly looking to trade for the High Flying Warrior Elmer Espiritu.

The rumored trade offer from GlobalPort looks like this. Ginebra will get Mandani and Washington. Petron will receive Doug Kramer. GlobalPort will acquire Elmer Espiritu and Barako Bull Energy will get Kerby Raymundo.

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: dmaximus on Feb 07, 2013 at 05:05 AM
GLOBAL PORT has gotten much deeper ....... but it'll be a challenge for Baculi to get chemistry, since Miller, Mercado and David are all ball-centric players.

All three guards don't play off-the-ball well ...... they need that ball for a good chunk of the 24-second shotclock, in order to get going.

If I were Romero, I'd trade Miller now ...... while he still has nice value.


I think Miller is decent off the ball. He has a nice catch and shoot ability.  He was able to adjust sa Ginebra I think he'll do fine. Inspired mga yan sa BIG 3 ng NBA so Im sure it will be used to motivate them to work together.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Feb 07, 2013 at 02:58 PM
I myself consider Chan too big a risk out there ...... he is indeed inconsistent, plus he doesn't do any thing else if his shots aren't falling.

I'd also leave out Gary David ....... same as Chan - when his shots fail him, he doesn't contribute in other aspects of the game.

Still can't see why Cyrus Baguio isn't being considered ........ except for the last game of semis series against TnT, he was the most efficient SG last conference (has always been efficient actually). Besides, Baguio was by far the best performing player during the last non-GILAS Natl Team (Yeng Guiao 2009).

I'd also consider Lutz and Lassiter (if not injured) ....... these guys are way familiar with international play, aside from their obvious talent.

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Completely agree that Norwood and Dillinger have similar skillsets, aside from their similar inconsistencies ...... Norwood would probably get the final slot owing to his decent GILAS showing months ago.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: rafa_palma on Feb 07, 2013 at 04:47 PM
Lets pray for consistency of these players.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: jericm on Feb 08, 2013 at 09:34 AM
I myself consider Chan too big a risk out there ...... he is indeed inconsistent, plus he doesn't do any thing else if his shots aren't falling.

I'd also leave out Gary David ....... same as Chan - when his shots fail him, he doesn't contribute in other aspects of the game.

Still can't see why Cyrus Baguio isn't being considered ........ except for the last game of semis series against TnT, he was the most efficient SG last conference (has always been efficient actually). Besides, Baguio was by far the best performing player during the last non-GILAS Natl Team (Yeng Guiao 2009).

I'd also consider Lutz and Lassiter (if not injured) ....... these guys are way familiar with international play, aside from their obvious talent.

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Completely agree that Norwood and Dillinger have similar skillsets, aside from their similar inconsistencies ...... Norwood would probably get the final slot owing to his decent GILAS showing months ago.


You're right sir. Both Chan and David easily gets frustrated when not shooting well. Not defending anymore and becomes a liability on court. 
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Feb 08, 2013 at 11:09 AM
perhaps, it's their shooter's streak that drew them in. it's nice to have them in the team. although they should not be made part of the core. good to have, but not indispensable. the team must have a system that would make it easy to pull those two out without affecting their offense. if they miss x number of shots, out they go.

cyrus? yes, i think he should have been in there. he also has a decent outside touch. but if his shots ain't falling, he has the ability to slash. he has a fallback on offense, so to speak.

between norwood and dilinger, i think norwood would be a better choice. but a very thin line separates one from the other, but i think it is norwood's ability to shoot from the outside and also penetrate from the outside with the ball that would set him apart.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Feb 08, 2013 at 10:21 PM
2nd conference started tonight. Upset wins by Global Port and Barako over Petron and San Mig, respectively. The San Miguel group actually went 0-3 tonight with San Miguel also losing in the ABL.

Global's import got ejected after an elbow to Fajardo. Didn't seem intentional, though. Lutz got injured again, a broken rib early in the game. And nothing new for Petron, they led, they collapsed then they played hero ball with Cabagnot and Santos taking stupid shots at end game. Global is definitely a different team from last conference. Mercado continued his excellent showing from last conference. Together with David and Aguilar, they made a pretty solid combination. Aguilar and their import played well together as well. With Mercado there, expect some highlight reels from those two. Miller seems to have been the odd man out with Mercado's entry into the team. He barely played in the 4th.

In the 2nd game, San Mig played without their import who was in the hospital. Yap was hot early then was "hurt" daw and didn't make that much impact anymore. Interestingly enough, it was San Mig's former PGs that killed them. Urbiztondo and Villanueva were great at running the offense for Barako. And they actually played together for most of the game. Toroman has really brought a sense of order in Barako. Better substitution patterns with excellent balance of young guys and veterans. That was some trust he gave Danny Seigle in the 4th. He barely played him in the 1st half, didn't use him in the 3rd, then he let him finish the 4th. And Seigle responded with a clutch 3 and 2FTs to ice the game.

All in all, a pretty good start to the new conference.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: steelcrazy on Feb 09, 2013 at 08:05 AM
Who were the players named by Coach CHOT for Gilas 2 17 man pool?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Feb 09, 2013 at 08:13 AM
Who were the players named by Coach CHOT for Gilas 2 17 man pool?

Eto bro according pba.ph

LA Tenorio, Jayson Castro, Jimmy Alapag, Larry Fonacier, Ryan Reyes and Gary David as guards, Gabe Norwood, Jeff Chan and Jared Dillinger as wingmen, Ranidel de Ocampo, Marc Pingris and Japeth Aguilar as power forwards and Kelly Williams, June Mar Fajardo, Sonny Thoss and Greg Slaughter, Marcus Douthit as centers.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Chain on Feb 09, 2013 at 10:26 AM
waah!so malabo sa finals contention ang TnT ko ah
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Feb 09, 2013 at 11:14 AM
waah!so malabo sa finals contention ang TnT ko ah

Bakit naman? They're still intact. Wala naman nawala. Nadagdag pa nga si Rabeh. They're actually stronger now. Di naman tatanggalin yung mga napili sa national team eh. The 2nd conf ends late May. FIBA-Asia starts August.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Feb 09, 2013 at 11:30 AM
Sana lang nagdagdag pa si Chot ng more reliable outside shooters aside from David and Chan...
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Feb 09, 2013 at 12:50 PM
Pure-shooters, much like back-to-the-basket bigs, are very rare nowadays ..... Chan & Ritualo are perhaps the closest ones - both are streaky, limited & inconsistent compared to the shooters from decades ago.

No kidding, if Allan Caidic can still run a good 5-8 minutes of ball ...... I'd give him a slot in the GILAS pool. Caidic is that great a shooter. The shooting arm never goes away for older players, it's the legs that goes first.

My father & uncles all played prior to the PBA era ...... when playing pick-up games a few years back, their shooting is still evident ..... though they can't jump or run anymore.  ;D





Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Feb 09, 2013 at 09:08 PM
Chan & Ritualo are perhaps the closest ones - both are streaky, limited & inconsistent compared to the shooters from decades ago.

as far as streak shooters are concerned, you can add macapagal and salvacion to the list. but, like ritualo and chan, they are just that -- streak shooters.

james yap could could have been a better choice.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Feb 09, 2013 at 09:39 PM
as far as streak shooters are concerned, you can add macapagal and salvacion to the list. but, like ritualo and chan, they are just that -- streak shooters.

james yap could could have been a better choice.

James Yap would have been a very bad choice. The guy's a volume shooter. He'll just disrupt the dribble-drive offense of Gilas.

Alapag and Fonacier will be their best outside shooters. They're both accurate, fairly consistent and not afraid to take the shot. I would have loved Casio there because the guy already has experience, pretty accurate and has a very quick release. He's just too small.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Feb 09, 2013 at 11:23 PM
James Yap would have been a very bad choice. The guy's a volume shooter. He'll just disrupt the dribble-drive offense of Gilas.

Exactly ...... James Yap has long been the epitome of volume-shooting in the PBA.

He gets his points or stinks out games (has been the case for the past few years now) the same way - he attempts way too many shots at a very low FG%.

Yap has had the luxury of having some of the best offensive rebounding bigs surrounding him from the start e.g. Pingris, Reavis, Maierhoffer, etc.

If one looks closely, it's been Jun Simon who has been the best guard on that team for years now.

Besides, Yap didn't show much during the last non-GILAS Natl Team ...... that was a freelancing Guiao team ...... it's indeed a safe bet that he might not fare well with Reyes' sets.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Feb 10, 2013 at 12:21 AM
That Alaska-RoS endgame has got to be one of the craziest endings we've seen in the PBA. With 24 secs left, Norwood taps the ball away from Casio. Casio has to scamper back to the backcourt then he finds Abueva for a 25ft. desperation 3 that swishes thru the net to tie the game at 81 with 10 secs left. RoS then sends the ball to their 7-2 import at the post after a timeout who gets blocked by Abueva from behind leading to a loose ball picked up by Alaska's import Dozier who gives it to Baguio for a buzzer-beating layup to win the game.

And AKTV decided not to air that game live. In favor of NCAA volleyball. >:(
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Feb 10, 2013 at 01:25 AM
That Alaska-RoS endgame has got to be one of the craziest endings we've seen in the PBA. With 24 secs left, Norwood taps the ball away from Casio. Casio has to scamper back to the backcourt then he finds Abueva for a 25ft. desperation 3 that swishes thru the net to tie the game at 81 with 10 secs left. RoS then sends the ball to their 7-2 import at the post after a timeout who gets blocked by Abueva from behind leading to a loose ball picked up by Alaska's import Dozier who gives it to Baguio for a buzzer-beating layup to win the game.

And AKTV decided not to air that game live. In favor of NCAA volleyball. >:(

The NCAA volleyball game was the first game of the championship. That was probably one of the reasons AKTV decided to air it live. They expected it to be an exciting game and it was exciting enough. How were they to know that Alaska-RoS endgame would be one of the craziest endings we've seen in the PBA? And AKTV usually air only the 2nd game live for their Saturday coverage.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Feb 10, 2013 at 02:11 AM
The NCAA volleyball game was the first game of the championship. That was probably one of the reasons AKTV decided to air it live. They expected it to be an exciting game and it was exciting enough. How were they to know that Alaska-RoS endgame would be one of the craziest endings we've seen in the PBA? And AKTV usually air only the 2nd game live for their Saturday coverage.

They aired the NCAA Volleyball finals not because it was a championship game but because ABS was airing the DLSU-Ateneo Volleyball game at the same time. They were matching up. Over 19,000 people went to watch the DLSU-Ateneo game at the MOA arena. The NCAA game was already being killed in gate attendance, they got buried in the ratings pa. They would have had a better shot at the ratings game had they shown a PBA game no matter how it turned out.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Chain on Feb 10, 2013 at 01:19 PM
sayang naman ung ROS-Alaska game at di ko napanood :-[
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Feb 10, 2013 at 02:44 PM
They aired the NCAA Volleyball finals not because it was a championship game but because ABS was airing the DLSU-Ateneo Volleyball game at the same time. They were matching up. Over 19,000 people went to watch the DLSU-Ateneo game at the MOA arena. The NCAA game was already being killed in gate attendance, they got buried in the ratings pa. They would have had a better shot at the ratings game had they shown a PBA game no matter how it turned out.

haha. oo nga pala. UAAP is covered by ABS. I was hoping to watch the DLSU-Ateneo game but out of habit turned to AKTV thus catching the NCAA game instead.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Feb 10, 2013 at 05:48 PM
Very curious to see how Chualay's coaching debut with BGK turns out.

It's guaranteed that it'll be fast paced for BGK ....... I'm interested to see the sub patterns. This aspect of the coaching game has long been BGK's downfall c/o Uichico and Tanquincen.

Al Chua is a players coach ....... I won't be surprised if vets like Helterbrand, Hatfield & Raymundo will see a career resurrection of sorts soon.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Feb 10, 2013 at 06:32 PM
Man, that was some game between Barako and Global Port! Down 10 with 1:51 left, Barako went on a 10-0 run to force overtime. Then they go on a 12-2 run in OT to get the win. This conference has had the best opening games in a while. Down the wire for almost every game so far.

Urbiztondo and Villanueva really thrive in Toroman's system. They're great in pick and rolls and are deadly outside shooters. Danny Seigle is thriving in this system as well. He's been clutch for 2 straight games now. May dunk pa siya kanina over the opposing import to fuel their run.

Nasayang 16 assists ni Mercado. Coaching mistake cost them the game. Naging overconfident si Baculi when they led by 10.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: steelcrazy on Feb 10, 2013 at 07:50 PM
Eto bro according pba.ph

LA Tenorio, Jayson Castro, Jimmy Alapag, Larry Fonacier, Ryan Reyes and Gary David as guards, Gabe Norwood, Jeff Chan and Jared Dillinger as wingmen, Ranidel de Ocampo, Marc Pingris and Japeth Aguilar as power forwards and Kelly Williams, June Mar Fajardo, Sonny Thoss and Greg Slaughter, Marcus Douthit as centers.

Actually the selection is good made up mostly of TNT players though i prefer Arwin Santos over Greg Slaughter but a team cant be composed of too much superstars since playing time will be sub divided mostly among role players.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Feb 14, 2013 at 11:10 PM
a bit OT (for now  ::) )...was Mbenga any good when he was with the lakers? or the nba in general?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Feb 15, 2013 at 12:16 AM
a bit OT (for now  ::) )...was Mbenga any good when he was with the lakers? or the nba in general?

Ordinary is how I would describe him, in NBA standards. He worked hard, though. Doesn't have much offensive game but an able rebounder and solid defender. He won't dominate in any league though, even the PBA.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Feb 15, 2013 at 06:20 AM
Mbenga is a stiff ...... limited, but he is imposing and strong.

BGK would be better off picking a more athletic import ....... not necessarily a scorer as they have enough scoring locals. They need someone active off the boards and contesting shots - much like the imports of PETRON, ALASKA, BARAKO, etc.

On a related note ...... if ever Mbenga makes it to BGK (though latest updates reveal otherwise), it's one more solid proof of ILLEGAL/UNETHICAL practices by SMCorp.

ALASKA has long courted Mbenga ...... offering him the PBA-imposed maximum allowable contract for imports - only to be turned down by Mbenga.

What would spur Mbenga to suddenly negotiate with BGK (SMCorp) when he has already rejected a recent formal max contract offer ??

Baka masagot ni Noli "Loverboy" Eala ang tanong na ito.  ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Nikkie on Feb 15, 2013 at 10:12 AM
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What would spur Mbenga to suddenly negotiate with BGK (SMCorp) when he has already rejected a recent formal max contract offer ??

Maybe he just wants to play for another team? :D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Feb 15, 2013 at 10:20 AM
On a related note ...... if ever Mbenga makes it to BGK (though latest updates reveal otherwise), it's one more solid proof of ILLEGAL/UNETHICAL practices by SMCorp.

parang hindi na nga yata matutuloy. it seems that a certain vernon macklin will be the replacement of herbert hill. not yet official, though. i still prefer chris alexander. hehe
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Feb 15, 2013 at 11:11 AM
Saw that Donnel Harvey is in town ....... though it's most likely he's here at TnT's calling.

He'll probably replace TnT's current import who played passive during their first game.

Should Harvey be released from TnT, he'll make a good import for BGK - active and plays his heart out, though lacking FT accuracy.

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 15, 2013 at 12:13 PM
havent watched the games for quite sometime, sino pinakamagaling na import?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Feb 15, 2013 at 12:50 PM
havent watched the games for quite sometime, sino pinakamagaling na import?

Though smaller compared to the other imports, PETRON's Balkman is the most talented import.

He fits PETRON since that team has local bigs to play the post.

Dunnigan (AIR21) and Dozier (ALASKA) looks like keepers as well.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Nikkie on Feb 15, 2013 at 01:26 PM
For me Balkman and Global Port's import (forgot the name) is a keeper. That's only based on the games I've watched so far.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Feb 15, 2013 at 09:37 PM
Ginebra loses again...
Great game for Global Port...
The import is really a shot blocking demon!!!
Ginebra needs more local support.
Kerby, LA, Ellis, Helterbrand are all non factor.
New coach... Same old team...

Sol Mercardo was really controlling and orchestrating very well for Global Port, making his team mates look good with all those assists...
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on Feb 15, 2013 at 09:56 PM
Ginebra loses again...
Great game for Global Port...
The import is really a shot blocking demon!!!
Ginebra needs more local support.
Kerby, LA, Ellis, Helterbrand are all non factor.
New coach... Same old team...

Sol Mercardo was really controlling and orchestrating very well for Global Port, making his team mates look good with all those assists...

anung ending sis? may taya ako e haha
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Feb 15, 2013 at 10:05 PM
anung ending sis? may taya ako e haha

89-80 ata ;)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Feb 17, 2013 at 09:50 PM
0-3  :o
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Feb 18, 2013 at 09:27 AM
** BGK's import Hill has the heart, but is too slow and lacks the hops to compete with the other imports ...... Tenorio has been horrible the 1st two games ...... Caguioa is still shooting without conscience ..... BGK forwards with very little contribution ....... let's see if new import Macklin will get things going.
 
** PETRON looking good so far ...... they got the perfect import to complement their lineup. PETRON has always lacked the energy-guy who will cover the holes - rebounding, help-defense, running the lanes, etc ....... Balkman showing his NBA pedigree.

** ALASKA wins it's 3rd straight close game ...... import Dozier showing his NBA pedigree as well.

** BARAKO with a good start ...... however, still can't believe that a coach like Toroman is giving full-reins to a PG like Urbiztondo ..... Urbiztondo is a deadly spot-up shooter, but he is no lead PG - little passing and set-up skills ...... he's actually taking shots from more his more accurate teammates. 

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Feb 18, 2013 at 01:02 PM
never really been impressed with Tenorio.. he's not a good shooter so his game really depends on penetration.. he's not the quickest PG out there so it's not really an advantage as well.. he's smart but when his outside shots aren't falling and he's being guarded by bigger or quicker defenders, he's useless.. Ginebra would have been better off trading for Casio instead of Tenorio..

Urbiztondo is not lead-PG material but he's worse as a backup PG especially for a weak bench.. He'll be looking to shoot even more if he has limited minutes.. And Toroman has been using Jonas and Josh together most of the time.. They've played more together in their 1st 3 games so Josh has really been more of a 2-guard with license to shoot..

Toroman has been doing a good job making do with the roster he has.. His substitution patterns and the pacing of his veterans have been impressive.. The resurgence of Danny Seigle is mostly because of Toroman's pacing of his minutes.. he barely uses him in the 1st half but he always puts him in during the endgame.. That amount of trust has given Seigle so much confidence that he's been Mr. Clutch for Barako in the past 3 games..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Feb 22, 2013 at 09:28 PM
San Mig Coffee got blown out again, this time by 28 vs RoS. Mas maganda pa yung laro nila nung wala silang import. They now join Ginebra at the bottom with a 0-3 standing. Barako, on the other hand, just wont die. They once again come back from being down double digits with less than 5 mins left in the 4th. Toroman really is a good coach. Di nagpapanic. He just sets up the plays and trusts his players.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Feb 23, 2013 at 10:24 PM
0-4
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: frequenzy on Feb 24, 2013 at 08:35 PM
monster bowles is back!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Feb 25, 2013 at 12:33 PM
and what a way to return -- a victory and a best player of the game.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Nikkie on Feb 28, 2013 at 08:01 AM
1st win of Ginebra with an exclamation point. Sana tuloy-tuloy na.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Mar 03, 2013 at 09:47 PM
1st win of Ginebra with an exclamation point. Sana tuloy-tuloy na.

unfortunately not! talo na naman.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Mar 04, 2013 at 11:51 AM
it was a game won by RoS, and lost by Ginebra, on free throws. 23 missed free throws for BGSM....
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: frequenzy on Mar 06, 2013 at 11:35 PM
first loss by Alaska tonight against San Mig Coffee
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: bolong68 on Mar 07, 2013 at 05:43 AM
another come-from-behind win by Meralco! Go Bolts!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Mar 07, 2013 at 06:08 PM
another come-from-behind win by Meralco! Go Bolts!

was it really a come from behind win by meralco or was it an almost come from behind win by air21? :)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Mar 08, 2013 at 09:46 AM
Good games tonight ....... GLOBAL-ROS & PETRON-ALASKA.

GLOBAL showing that a lineup of scorers doesn't guarantee wins ...... while ROS showing that an obscure lineup working together, can get you wins.

Cant wait for that inevitable collision between Tubid & Abueva ...... I can almost see it, both Tubid & Abueva will chase after a loose ball. They collide, throw some elbows and then both will flop as if a landmine had exploded.  ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Mar 08, 2013 at 09:35 PM
I've never seen it happen ever in my life, a player choking his own teammate. Petron's import Balkman just choked Arwind Santos for no reason. Balkman was basically playing with no energy all game long then just explodes, in bad way, at the end. He pushed his coaches, si Tubid tinulak rin tapos sinakal si Arwind. It seemed like the guy was on something.

Ang lamya ng laro niya all game like he wasn't in it. He wasn't running the floor, not getting back on defense. He didn't even demand for the ball. He was fine with just watching his teammates. Tapos when the game was practically over, he confronts the referees. I don't get it. Where was that fire the entire game?

Just gave new meaning to choking at the end game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bmGR2YDa1I

(http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz198/b-filmmaker/balkman-santos.jpg)

(http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz198/b-filmmaker/BE1rYaICMAAi7Pyjpglarge.jpg)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: TOP 20 on Mar 09, 2013 at 01:16 AM
This is unacceptable.

Send this guy home or better yet, let him strut his wares in the UFC! 

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Mar 09, 2013 at 01:31 AM
He's probably going to stay. Eala already hinted on it and even Racela said so. I just hope, this time, Salud makes the right decision. If the team won't send him home, force them to. Assault na yun eh. It's not part of the game anymore.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Mar 09, 2013 at 05:17 AM
Balkman should be sent home ASAP ....... no place in basketball for that kind of outburst.

Had posted before about that small risk of signing-up imports with decent NBA credentials ...... past signees have shown primadonna attitudes among other negative things.

From Art Long (who had a similar outburst) to Hassan Adams, Rodney White, etc ..... most of these NBA guys play as if the league needs them to survive.

Sad state for Balkman, sine he had showed only positive things for his first 6 games.

If reports are true that Pogiboy Eala will keep Balkman ...... yet more shame for the disbarred Eala.

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Wiggum on Mar 09, 2013 at 06:21 AM
^ This incident was really shocking, to say the least. If Petron management has any respect for its team and its players, they should reconsider the decision to keep this guy as their import and not to ship him out immediately. It was even mentioned in a news article that Arwind was the first one to apologize. WTH?!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: steelcrazy on Mar 09, 2013 at 08:19 AM
Blakman was so upset with the refs that he got more irritated with his teamates and coach pacifying him.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: oznola on Mar 09, 2013 at 09:15 AM
word is out that Latrell Sprewell will be replacing him...... of course its a joke  ^-^
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on Mar 09, 2013 at 11:24 AM
anyare?? may final decision naba??
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: anya618 on Mar 09, 2013 at 01:15 PM
http://sports.inquirer.net/90255/balkman-apologizes-on-twitter-to-santos-mother
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: retro12195 on Mar 09, 2013 at 03:35 PM
sikat si BALKMAN sa US ;D http://nba.si.com/2013/03/08/video-ex-nba-player-renaldo-balkman-goes-berserk-chokes-teammate/?sct=uk_t2_a13
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Mar 09, 2013 at 07:39 PM
Blakman was so upset with the refs that he got more irritated with his teamates and coach pacifying him.

I don't really see any reason for him to be upset at the refs. Not just on that play he was complaining about but for the entire game. Petron fans are claiming that Balkman was frustrated because he wasn't getting any calls. But if you watch that game again, you'll notice that 90% of the time he was on the court, he was just standing out on the perimeter. He'll set a pick then just stand there. He doesn't roll. He backs all the way out to the 3pt line. When he gets the ball, he just stands on the perimeter holding it and waits for his teammates to come get it. He doesn't even go for offensive boards. How can he get the referees to call fouls when he's not doing anything?

That outburst was really just out of the blue. He was disengaged the whole game then he just snapped. Now the Games and Amusements Board has said that if the PBA won't take any action, they're thinking of either suspending or revoking Balkman's license to play here.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: steelcrazy on Mar 10, 2013 at 08:23 AM
I don't really see any reason for him to be upset at the refs. Not just on that play he was complaining about but for the entire game. Petron fans are claiming that Balkman was frustrated because he wasn't getting any calls. But if you watch that game again, you'll notice that 90% of the time he was on the court, he was just standing out on the perimeter. He'll set a pick then just stand there. He doesn't roll. He backs all the way out to the 3pt line. When he gets the ball, he just stands on the perimeter holding it and waits for his teammates to come get it. He doesn't even go for offensive boards. How can he get the referees to call fouls when he's not doing anything?

That outburst was really just out of the blue. He was disengaged the whole game then he just snapped. Now the Games and Amusements Board has said that if the PBA won't take any action, they're thinking of either suspending or revoking Balkman's license to play here.

Yes, no excuses. Blakman's behavior shouldn't be tolerated and the PBA must provide the necessary disciplinary actions against him.
Pero ang problema Petron isn't letting go of Blakman.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Nikkie on Mar 10, 2013 at 11:09 PM
Buo ang gabi dahil nanalo Ginebra. :D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mattia on Mar 11, 2013 at 03:55 AM
Back in the day, Joey Loyzaga punched his Magnolia teammate Rudy Distrito but it was because Distrito was fighting Chito Loyzaga, Joey's big brother, then playing for Ginebra.  Even father Caloy joined the fray.  But yeah nothing like this choking incident.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Mar 11, 2013 at 03:09 PM
Salud has BANNED Balkman from playing in the PBA, for life.. also fined P250K.. finally, Salud does the right thing..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mattia on Mar 11, 2013 at 03:14 PM
Salud has BANNED Balkman from playing in the PBA, for life.. also fined P250K.. finally, Salud does the right thing..

Yes, that's the right thing to do.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Mar 11, 2013 at 03:19 PM
Yes, that's the right thing to do.

Gusto ko pa sana siya maglaro sa next game nila. Rain or Shine ni Yeng Guiao kasi kalaban. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Nikkie on Mar 11, 2013 at 03:21 PM
Buti naman. First time I saw a player go at his teammate. Buti sana kung off-cam. Sayang ganda pa naman performance nya.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Mar 11, 2013 at 03:26 PM
Here's the full text of the decision:

(http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz198/b-filmmaker/balkdec.jpg)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: frequenzy on Mar 11, 2013 at 03:38 PM
too harsh for me. parang mas grabe pa nga yung ginawa ni arboleda assaulting a fan eh.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Mar 11, 2013 at 04:55 PM
too harsh for me. parang mas grabe pa nga yung ginawa ni arboleda assaulting a fan eh.

Big name earning big money, playing for a big time team. And it was seen live on prime time TV. Salud had no choice. He'll be criticized if he didn't do that. Remember, Salud meted out a one-conference ban on Don Allado for just tweeting that the league was rigged. This was way worse. A ban was really the only option. Besides, Salud has never been consistent with his decisions. Well, he's been consistently inconsistent.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: steelcrazy on Mar 11, 2013 at 05:02 PM
Well, a lesson for the imports playing in the PBA not to be too arrogant even if they are formerly NBA players.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mattia on Mar 11, 2013 at 08:21 PM
Well, a lesson for the imports playing in the PBA not to be too arrogant even if they are formerly NBA players.


Yes, definitely not in our house.  At least, I applaud Comm Salud for not choking on his decision.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Mar 11, 2013 at 08:28 PM
http://ph.sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--salud-hands-down-decision-064522469.html (http://ph.sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--salud-hands-down-decision-064522469.html)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Kd Jb on Mar 11, 2013 at 08:29 PM
Smc mulling to pull out their 3 basketball team

http://sports.inquirer.net/90789/san-miguel-corp-mulls-pulling-teams-out-of-pba?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: frequenzy on Mar 11, 2013 at 10:44 PM
somehow i do agree with the statement of smc that its been blown out of proportion. what blackman did was wrong but i think the penalty doesnt give justice to the incident. there are worse things that happened to the pba but never a lifetime ban given to the player.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Mar 12, 2013 at 05:54 AM
^ It has been blown out of proportion ...... but this is the digital age and it's the norm nowadays.

If anything, the fault lies with SMC officials (Eala) for not sanctioning Balkman right away ...... most press bites from them showing solid support for the talented Balkman.

SMC should look at this another way ...... should Balkman had been suspended (a good number of games) instead of being banned, PETRON's campaign would be dire since it will be likely playing without an import.

This way, PETRON still gets to play an import, albeit with the risks coming with a replacement one.

Like I said, no place in any league for such a Balkman outrage ...... it was unique in many ways, since it showed violence towards other teammates ...... within full view of the live crowd and coverage.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: jericm on Mar 12, 2013 at 09:28 AM
Then Arboleda should also be banned from the PBA. He punched and kicked an obviously much smaller, defenseless fan also on national tv, but the guy is still playing, right? Balkman deserved to be sanctioned, everybody knows that..... but the PBA must show consistency on their decisions.

Thats Chito Salud for you..... 
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Mar 12, 2013 at 01:11 PM
Then Arboleda should also be banned from the PBA. He punched and kicked an obviously much smaller, defenseless fan also on national tv, but the guy is still playing, right? Balkman deserved to be sanctioned, everybody knows that..... but the PBA must show consistency on their decisions.

Thats Chito Salud for you..... 

In fairness to Salud, it wasn't him who levied the penalties on Arboleda.. Barrios was still commissioner during the Arboleda incident.. They're different people with different views on things..

And as I said before, I think Salud's decision on the Allado case played a part in this.. He had to give a harsher penalty to Balkman because he gave Allado a 1-conference ban and P500K fine just for a tweet.. And I agree that the SMC management handled this poorly.. they tried to just let it go and move on from it.. As Tim Cone tweeted, if that happened in practice or in the locker room, pwede pang palampasin.. but it didn't and in this day and age, there's was no way that was going away quickly..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on Mar 12, 2013 at 01:26 PM
science si renaldo....
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: jericm on Mar 12, 2013 at 02:22 PM
What if Chito Salud the commissioner back in time when the likes of Jaworski, Distrito, Onchie de la Cruz, Relosa, Jay Mendoza etc. that were involved in actual fisticuffs were still playing, maybe half the PBA roster would also be banned....  ;D

Joke lang po...
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: jericm on Mar 12, 2013 at 02:33 PM
Damage control...

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/l9ik78
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on Mar 12, 2013 at 05:57 PM
^ Tama lng na i-ban, kung nasakal nya teammate nya imagine kung anu pa kaya nya gawin sa kalaban.. Marami pa naman import, I'm sure may back up na smc dyan..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Mar 12, 2013 at 06:06 PM
It's very, very likely that SMC knew before-hand that Balkman will be banned by Salud ...... after all, Salud is a very close Danding ally and only won his office through the SMC bloc.

Chito Salud has been consistent in approving everything that favors SMC teams since he became Commisioner.

Like I said, in a way, the Balkman expulsion is the least worst thing that can happen to PETRON ..... instead of multiple game suspension, which would have derailed their campaign this conference, PETRON gets to hire another import instead.

============================================================

Read reports that PETRON is contemplating on hiring Rodney White as Balkman's replacement.

He's decent, but acted like he was Michael Jordan during his recent stint as BARAKO BULL import. Somewhat risky choice for PETRON.

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Mar 13, 2013 at 12:19 AM
i hope totohanin yung pag pull out ng SMC, nakakasawa na ang ginagawa nila sa PBA eh, at least mag karon ng dispersal draft, mabalanse na ulit ang liga, sabagay yung Petron daig pa ang all star, all superstar na nga eh pero palaging walang nararating, talk about ang nag hangad ng kagitna isang salop ang nawawala.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: oznola on Mar 13, 2013 at 08:25 AM
Damage control...

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/l9ik78

eto pa

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/298950/sports/basketball/not-a-life-ban-for-balkman-says-pba-media-bureau-chief
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Mar 13, 2013 at 09:40 AM
eto pa

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/298950/sports/basketball/not-a-life-ban-for-balkman-says-pba-media-bureau-chief

It really is a lifetime ban. Maybe with chance for parole. ;D

http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/banned-and-blacklisted-pba-commissioner-salud-counters-gma-report-on-renaldo-balkman

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/ban-on-balkman-is-for-life-unless-commuted-says-pba-amid-confusion
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Wiggum on Mar 14, 2013 at 11:49 AM
Slightly OT - The BIR filed tax evasion charges against Jimmy Alapag and Jared Dillinger today. WTH? Ayaw yata ng BIR mag-champion ang Talk & Text... 
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: anya618 on Mar 16, 2013 at 04:27 PM
me tatalo pa ba sa nangyari dito sa anejo vs presto?   >:D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Xj43mSpkcgI
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: steelcrazy on Mar 16, 2013 at 10:05 PM
Then Arboleda should also be banned from the PBA. He punched and kicked an obviously much smaller, defenseless fan also on national tv, but the guy is still playing, right? Balkman deserved to be sanctioned, everybody knows that..... but the PBA must show consistency on their decisions.

Thats Chito Salud for you..... 

Kapwa Pinoy si Arboleda so a heavy fine and long suspension is already enough punishment for him for punching a fan.
Salud made the correct decision of banning Blakman from playing in the PBA.
Blakman is a foreigner and his actions should not be taken lightly.
Of course his regrets and apologies should be accepted but let this incident be a lesson for him such that he will always remember and not repeat the same actions should he be given another chance to play in other countries.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Mar 17, 2013 at 08:35 PM
Very good game for Ginebra beating mighty TnT...
M.C. playing like an import with 28pts.
Alapag is really a streak shooter, cant leave him open...

Good overall game for both teams...
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on Mar 17, 2013 at 08:39 PM
^ Grabe ung leaping ability nung ellis.. :)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Mar 17, 2013 at 08:45 PM
Very good game for Ginebra beating mighty TnT...
M.C. playing like an import with 28pts.
Alapag is really a streak shooter, cant leave him open...

Good overall game for both teams...

TnT's outside shots were not going in. Alapag was the only one making outside shots. Missed free throws by Ginebra made it a closer game.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Mar 17, 2013 at 08:54 PM
TnT's outside shots were not going in. Alapag was the only one making outside shots. Missed free throws by Ginebra made it a closer game.

Still a high scoring game... Which is a joy to watch... ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Mar 17, 2013 at 08:56 PM
^ Grabe ung leaping ability nung ellis.. :)

Oo bro, grabe din dumangk yan ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Mar 17, 2013 at 11:13 PM
^ Grabe ung leaping ability nung ellis.. :)

matangkad si ellis, 6-5, pero malakas yung leaping ability niya from a standing position. imho si paul alvarez, 6-0, ang pinakagrabe pa rin pagdating sa leaping ability.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Mar 17, 2013 at 11:54 PM
matangkad si ellis, 6-5, pero malakas yung leaping ability niya from a standing position. imho si paul alvarez, 6-0, ang pinakagrabe pa rin pagdating sa leaping ability.

Yeah, I agree...
Mr. Excitement!!! ^-^
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Mar 18, 2013 at 12:00 AM
i believe Joey Mente has the highest vetical leap all time
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Mar 18, 2013 at 12:09 AM
i believe Joey Mente has the highest vetical leap all time

i was about to say this. mente is below 6ft, iirc.

******

two in a row for the gin kings. ganda ng chemistry nina LA at Macklin. and Caguioa is playing exceptionally well.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Mar 18, 2013 at 12:11 AM
i was about to say this. mente is below 6ft, iirc.

******

two in a row for the gin kings. ganda ng chemistry nina LA at Macklin. and Caguioa is playing exceptionally well.

around 5 ft 9 inches only.

walang value ang dribble kay macklin at la eh parang palaging alleyoop parang heat seeking missile yung bola, hinahanap ng kusa yung kamay ni macklin pag galing kay la
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Nikkie on Mar 18, 2013 at 12:14 AM
Nice panalo na naman! Sana diretso na sa Finals. :D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Mar 18, 2013 at 12:18 AM
parang palaging alleyoop parang heat seeking missile yung bola, hinahanap ng kusa yung kamay ni macklin pag galing kay la

almost always, ganyan ang play nilang dalawa. macklin had an awesome dunk in that game. hinatak na pababa, but still managed to slam the ball.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Mar 18, 2013 at 12:22 AM
Boybits Victoria and Jimmy Alapag could dunk the ball as well... Alapag is around 5'8"
But they're not vertical leapers I think...

Nice panalo na naman! Sana diretso na sa Finals. :D

I hope so too. Pero madami pang hahabulin... Medyo nabaon kasi eh, hehe
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Mar 18, 2013 at 12:27 AM
Boybits Victoria and Jimmy Alapag could dunk the ball as well... Alapag is around 5'8"
But they're not vertical leapers I think...

yes, but they do not jump as high as joey mente does. they were never slam dunk champs in the pba.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Mar 18, 2013 at 03:40 AM
i believe Joey Mente has the highest vetical leap all time

Joey Mente may have had the all-time highest vertical leap but Paul Alvarez was not called Mr. Excitement for nothing. His first, second and third leaps were almost the same, even after his prime, differing only by a few inches. Ellis seems to have the same capability. kangkarot!

It was definitely exciting to watch Ginebra play the way they did against TnT. I just hope it continues.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Mar 18, 2013 at 03:52 AM
PG & SG's are rarely in a scenario for vertical dunks.

But for the few that does this from time to time ..... I can recall, Paul Alvarez and Jojo Lastimosa (mostly done during Mama's Love stint).

I'm sure that a few other guards can do this as well, like Joey Mente.

But perhaps the ex-pro who IMO had the highest vertical leap ever - Mike Garcia from the old Laguna Lakers team of the MBA ..... he never was a good overall player, but the hops Garcia showed was incredible.

========================================================================

I've seen a few other great vertical leapers from the old amateur leagues (PABL, PBL, etc) ....... not surprisingly, most of these players had backgrounds in collegiate volleyball.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Mar 18, 2013 at 01:15 PM
PG & SG's are rarely in a scenario for vertical dunks.

But for the few that does this from time to time ..... I can recall, Paul Alvarez and Jojo Lastimosa (mostly done during Mama's Love stint).

I'm sure that a few other guards can do this as well, like Joey Mente.

But perhaps the ex-pro who IMO had the highest vertical leap ever - Mike Garcia from the old Laguna Lakers team of the MBA ..... he never was a good overall player, but the hops Garcia showed was incredible.

========================================================================

I've seen a few other great vertical leapers from the old amateur leagues (PABL, PBL, etc) ....... not surprisingly, most of these players had backgrounds in collegiate volleyball.


ahhh yes sir Mike Garcia, perhaps the one wiht the highest vertical leap ever. though a soft dunker
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Mar 18, 2013 at 01:20 PM
Joey Mente may have had the all-time highest vertical leap but Paul Alvarez was not called Mr. Excitement for nothing. His first, second and third leaps were almost the same, even after his prime, differing only by a few inches. Ellis seems to have the same capability. kangkarot!

It was definitely exciting to watch Ginebra play the way they did against TnT. I just hope it continues.

I thought we were just talking about vertical leap that's why I mentioned Joey Mente, in fact as sir newave said, Michael Garcia perhaps has the highest ever
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Mar 18, 2013 at 04:51 PM
Global Port is on a 6 game losing streak and their new import has narcolepsy. Problems just won't stop for them. I think they should fire Baculi. They have too much talent for this to happen.

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/globalport-officials-left-fuming-by-photo-of-import-sharpe-asleep-in-parking-lot
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Mar 18, 2013 at 07:46 PM
I thought we were just talking about vertical leap that's why I mentioned Joey Mente, in fact as sir newave said, Michael Garcia perhaps has the highest ever

Actually, puffalan84 referred to Ellis' "grabeng" leaping ability. So whether they had the highest vertical leap or not, these players mentioned, all had "grabeng" leaping abilities! ;D And when these high-leapers play, specially the smaller ones, the more exciting it is to watch games.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: dreidrei on Mar 18, 2013 at 07:55 PM
speaking of leaping abilities, dont forget the younger lago (was it elmer) who played for ginebra!! he is a dunker too.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Mar 18, 2013 at 08:44 PM
speaking of leaping abilities, dont forget the younger lago (was it elmer) who played for ginebra!! he is a dunker too.

Yup that's Elmer. Si Dwight yung older na perimeter/outside shooter...
Nanalo din ata cya ng dunk contest si Elmer Lago kapartner yung import nila sa Ginebra...
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on Mar 18, 2013 at 09:13 PM
Yup that's Elmer. Si Dwight yung older na perimeter/outside shooter...
Nanalo din ata cya ng dunk contest si Elmer Lago kapartner yung import nila sa Ginebra...
panis yan kay elmer manalili hahaha....      Nice game BGK .... Great game mc47
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Nikkie on Mar 19, 2013 at 11:32 AM
MC47 for POTC. :D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Mar 19, 2013 at 04:48 PM
Had never been a big fan of Caguioa ...... he had never been one who feels his teammates out during offense - takes more than his share of bad shots e.g. early shots, surprise jumpers, long jumpers, etc ...... even diehard BGK fans acknowledge this flaw.

However, the guy always plays his heart out & plays relatively clean ...... he has even toned down his no-conscience, volume shooting the past few conferences ...... may have actually improved his FG%.

========================================================================

Like I said, BGK vets will probably see a revival of sorts with Chualay ...... Chua is a players coach and will let his players freelance and run.

However, BGK is still unlikely to get by the other elite teams when it comes to the playoffs ..... teams like TnT, SMC, RoS & PET are just way too loaded (not to mention the elite coaching found in TnT, SMC & RoS).

It would be fun watching the games though.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: SpecialK on Mar 20, 2013 at 08:20 AM
Caguioa FTW!!!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Mar 23, 2013 at 12:02 AM
three in a row!

BGSM blew a 21 point lead and almost lost the game. and it looks like Caguioa suffered an injury which, according to initial reports, is a sprained knee. although they fear that it could be and MCL injury. i hope not.

anyway, it was strange that when meralco was resorting to a hack-a-mack during the 4th quarter, chua did not opt to take macklin out. macklin's free throw percentage was very terrible (5 out of 16, iirc).
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ivannn on Mar 23, 2013 at 09:03 AM
sana hindi MCL si MC47... ganda rin ng nilalaro niya ngayon eh.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: SpecialK on Mar 23, 2013 at 02:59 PM
Sana di grabe injury kay idol caguoia!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Mar 23, 2013 at 04:06 PM
Grade 1 MCL daw.. 1 week rest then re-evaluate.. I think Caguioa's overworked.. he's had to do everything for Ginebra this conference.. good thing for them, their next 3 games won't be against the top teams..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Mar 23, 2013 at 04:28 PM
yes, it's grade 1 MCL.

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/caguioa-rues-bad-timing-of-injury-as-doc-confirms-grade-1-mcl-sprain (http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/caguioa-rues-bad-timing-of-injury-as-doc-confirms-grade-1-mcl-sprain)

I think Caguioa's overworked.. he's had to do everything for Ginebra this conference.. good thing for them, their next 3 games won't be against the top teams..

agree with you on all points. only Caguioa and Macklin are playing consistently for BGSM this conference. LA, Ellis, Hatfield are on and off. Kerby is there, pero ung katawan lang nya. he has not significantly contributed. so with Mamaril, who's only bright spot this conference so far was that game against SanMig Coffee.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Mar 23, 2013 at 07:51 PM
Just heard that Andy Jao is no longer with RoS ..... so that's why he's not in the bench during the RoS games I've watched this conference.

Quite mysterious that Jao isn't with RoS anymore ..... he's been a longtime ally of Yeng Guiao, who coincidentally was signed-up to a fresh multi-year contract.

I consider Andy Jao & Joaqui Trillo to be the best team managers/consultants during this era ...... by a mile.

These guys play within the salary cap rules ...... and despite this "handicap", these guys have a great eye for locals and imports. 

Compare this to the long line of pathetic SMC team officials who disregard all salary cap rules and get all the choice draft picks via dirty tactics .... and still cant form dominating/cohesive teams.
 
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Mar 24, 2013 at 07:15 PM
Nice win again by Ginebra...
Great game from LA with 27 points...
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Mar 25, 2013 at 11:56 AM
Ginebra on a roll.....4 wins in a row. monster games from Tenorio and Macklin, filling the void left by Caguioa.

on another note, mukhang napikon si Salud sa Alaska.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Mar 25, 2013 at 12:54 PM
Snapshots actually show SMC's Simon entering the lane during Abueva's FT attempt ...... Simon even nudged Abueva just before the attempt.

Haven't seen that kind of close contact with a player attempting a FT before.

(http://i50.tinypic.com/2w3oy9g.jpg)

Funny that Tim Cone had almost always been on the losing end during these types of close moments, when he was still with ALASKA.  ;)

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Mar 25, 2013 at 03:06 PM
Snapshots actually show SMC's Simon entering the lane during Abueva's FT attempt ...... Simon even nudged Abueva just before the attempt.

Haven't seen that kind of close contact with a player attempting a FT before.

(http://i50.tinypic.com/2w3oy9g.jpg)

Funny that Tim Cone had almost always been on the losing end during these types of close moments, when he was still with ALASKA.  ;)



the one doing the coverage stated that the correct interpretation of the rule was that it doesn't matter who was first, as long as players from both teams go beyond the free throw line, a jump ball would have to be called. (17:10 to 17:17)

the "controversy" can be seen from 15:45 to 16:00 and the replay at around 16:35 to 16:45.
http://youtu.be/zY4ngJuU708 (http://youtu.be/zY4ngJuU708)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Mar 25, 2013 at 04:28 PM
The problem with the PBA is that they allow players to move toward the basket even before the ball is released. Racela already pointed this out last year during a game vs Ginebra when he was still an assistant coach. The PBA said it is allowed. When Petron started doing it in their next game vs B-Meg, they allowed it as well. When B-Meg players followed suit, they called a lane violation, called a jump and nullified the free throw. Tim Cone complained and he was ejected.

I watched that Alaska-SanMig game live. In previous free throws, the refs allowed those players behind the 3pt line to move in a step, before the shot is released. During that Abueva FT, all 4 were behind the 3pt line. Baguio and Jazul switched sides that prompted Simon and Barroca to move a step inside the 3pt line para makahabol. Baguio then faked to his right at humabol si Simon. Simon's momentum left him standing beside Abueva even before Jazul and Barroca dashed in. The people sitting with me were already saying that Abueva will be given another shot so it didn't matter if he missed. Gulat kami nung tumawag ng jump ball yung referee on the other side. Referee 28 had a clear view of Simon's violation but he didn't make the call. Disconcerting the shooter should have been the applicable rule at hindi yung sabay na pagpasok.

To make matters worse for Alaska, Trillo was fined 40K for his comments at pag-confront niya sa officials after the game. I just don't get why the officiating in the PBA just keeps getting worse.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Mar 25, 2013 at 05:20 PM

...... Disconcerting the shooter should have been the applicable rule at hindi yung sabay na pagpasok.

To make matters worse for Alaska, Trillo was fined 40K for his comments at pag-confront niya sa officials after the game. I just don't get why the officiating in the PBA just keeps getting worse.

Exactly ...... haven't seen an opposing player that close to a FT shooter in a long while - last one I recall that close was during the rough-housing early 80's of the PBA.

To think that Simon bumped Abueva and still no call from the referee.

It was just a few pre-seasons ago when Salud himself stated that the referees should let the players play (win or lose) during the closing minutes of tight games ...... he even used the 2010 Game1 Finals between PFOODS & ALASKA when Devance was called for a last-second foul on Raymundo, as an example.

Like what I've been saying since Tim Cone went to SMC ...... he has toned down, after being a longtime & harsh critic of the dirty tactics & favorable calls/treatment that SMC teams has long employed and enjoyed in the PBA, etc.

Just goes to show that one's opinion and understanding of things does get muddled when his salary depends on it.  ;D

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Mar 25, 2013 at 05:49 PM
The referee who made the call was on Abueva's left side. He made the call immediately when Jazul and Barroca stepped beyond the free throw line. With respect to his position and field of vision, you can say that he made the right call. On the other hand, the referee who was on Abueva's right side should have made a call when Simon stood beside Abueva but he didn't.

Are referees allowed to confer with one another as to what call is to be made? Can the referee who didn't make the call tell the referee who did make the call, what to call? ;D Can the referees review the video to make the right call?

I guess it all boils down to a terrible non-call by one referee and a supposedly "controversial" but good call by another referee. Alaska still had a chance of winning but missed twice. As they say, breaks of the game. What else is new? ::)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Mar 25, 2013 at 07:38 PM
The ref who made the call actually didn't blow the whistle immediately. Abueva had to stop and look at the ref before he blew his whistle. Sabi nga ng isang kasama ko sobrang gulat siguro ni Calvin nung makita niyang ang lapit na ng mukha ni Barroca sa kanya.. ;D

And refs can confer with each other. I've seen that happen so many times. One ref's call is overturned depending on which happened first or which is the greater violation.

One more thing that really showed how badly that game was officiated in the last few seconds was on that last play after the jump ball. Once Abueva crossed the half court line, Jazul signaled for a timeout right in front of the same referee who didn't make the call on Simon earlier. Even Baguio did the same thing. And the referee just pointed towards the direction of the Alaska bench. Alaska still had a 30-sec timeout then. PBA rules allow an offensive player on the court, even the one not holding the ball, to call a timeout. Abueva wasn't doing anything yet when the referee saw Jazul calling timeout. He should have called that. After the shot was missed, I saw Jazul confront the referee on that non-call. For me, that was what decided the game, not that lane violation call.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Mar 25, 2013 at 09:17 PM
The ref who made the call actually didn't blow the whistle immediately. Abueva had to stop and look at the ref before he blew his whistle. Sabi nga ng isang kasama ko sobrang gulat siguro ni Calvin nung makita niyang ang lapit na ng mukha ni Barroca sa kanya.. ;D

And refs can confer with each other. I've seen that happen so many times. One ref's call is overturned depending on which happened first or which is the greater violation.

One more thing that really showed how badly that game was officiated in the last few seconds was on that last play after the jump ball. Once Abueva crossed the half court line, Jazul signaled for a timeout right in front of the same referee who didn't make the call on Simon earlier. Even Baguio did the same thing. And the referee just pointed towards the direction of the Alaska bench. Alaska still had a 30-sec timeout then. PBA rules allow an offensive player on the court, even the one not holding the ball, to call a timeout. Abueva wasn't doing anything yet when the referee saw Jazul calling timeout. He should have called that. After the shot was missed, I saw Jazul confront the referee on that non-call. For me, that was what decided the game, not that lane violation call.

I'm not sure but I believe they've changed that rule. Only the one holding the ball can call a timeout. Or am I wrong?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: oznola on Mar 27, 2013 at 10:51 AM
eto pa isang import na dapat turuan ng lechon!

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/metro-manila/03/27/13/ex-pba-import-loses-money-punches-cop
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Mar 27, 2013 at 11:27 AM
It's unfortunate for Jamelle Cornley & ROS since he's an import-in-waiting (assuming he's within the height limit for future conferences) ..... heck, he's a big reason that ROS finally won a PBA championship.

Not the first time that this has happened though ...... countless ex-imports have had too much of a good time during their stay here in the country.  ;D

=========================================================================

Not looking good for ALASKA tonight against PETRON ..... Casio is still out with a bum knee, while Thoss will sit out with back spasms.

Espinas and/or Sam "Hands of Butter" Eman needs to step-up bigtime for ALASKA, if they're to have a chance.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Mar 27, 2013 at 12:07 PM
I'm not sure but I believe they've changed that rule. Only the one holding the ball can call a timeout. Or am I wrong?

i believe that's the rule now, sir. if memory serves me right, that rule was implemented around a year or two ago.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Mar 30, 2013 at 09:03 PM
RIP Bobby Parks.

Definitely one of the best imports to ever play in the PBA ...... was a class-act both on and off the court.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Mar 30, 2013 at 10:16 PM
RIP Bobby Parks.

Definitely one of the best imports to ever play in the PBA ...... was a class-act both on and off the court.

what happened to him sir? was he sick?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Mar 30, 2013 at 10:44 PM
RIP Bobby Parks.

Definitely one of the best imports to ever play in the PBA ...... was a class-act both on and off the court.

Agree sir... One of the best import the Philippine Basketball has seen... RIP Bobby Parks
At 51 he's so young. Madami pa sana siyang maituturo at macocontribute sa sport.

http://pba.inquirer.net/20525/bobby-parks-passes-away-at-51 (http://pba.inquirer.net/20525/bobby-parks-passes-away-at-51)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: rochie on Mar 30, 2013 at 10:59 PM
what happened to him sir? was he sick?

according to News may cancer.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Nicadraus on Mar 30, 2013 at 11:13 PM
RIP Bobby Parks. Condolence to his family...
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: rony on Mar 31, 2013 at 12:44 PM
condolence to the family of bobby parks. One of the great imports to play in the PBA.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mikz023 on Mar 31, 2013 at 09:37 PM
RIP Bobby Parks. May you rest in peace.

Natawa ako kanina sa labas ng san mig at barako. Sa start ng 3rd quarter. Mark Barocca wearing Mallari's jersey. Hahaha.. 1st time ba to nangyri sa PBA?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Zenki on Mar 31, 2013 at 10:12 PM
huli siguro sila... hahaha.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Apr 03, 2013 at 03:16 PM
So one team finally managed to sign former Laker DJ Mbenga. And to my surprise, it's Barako Bull, the team that almost disbanded a few years ago due to financial troubles. Makes you wonder if the team is really owned by George Chua and the Linas. :D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Apr 03, 2013 at 05:47 PM
So one team finally managed to sign former Laker DJ Mbenga. And to my surprise, it's Barako Bull, the team that almost disbanded a few years ago due to financial troubles. Makes you wonder if the team is really owned by George Chua and the Linas. :D

BARAKO BULL had been playing in the PBA for more than a year, yet not one of their products can be seen on any retail store anywhere.

It was only very recently that BARAKO BULL was sold in stores ...... and it's being marketed by no less than San Miguel Corp.

Yup, BARAKO BULL (the company & franchise) is being fronted by Chua & Lina ..... but it is owned by SMC. Of course, everybody knows this open secret ..... everyone except for Comm. Cheato Salud.  ;)

George Chua lost most of his money when ..... a.) cameras went digital, hence their PHOTOKINA/AGFA brand went bankrupt .... b.) PHOTOKINA got involved in some mess when it put out a bid for poll automation ..... c.) leading to RED BULL Thailand voiding Chua's rights to locally market RED BULL.

Meanwhile, Bert Lina saw a massive drop in revenue when FEDEX suddenly transferred their Subic operations to China.


Both Chua & Lina saw an opportunity to cash in via countless heinous PBA trades and transactions ...... Arwind Santos was a 2x MVP/BPC runner-up & All-Defensive team fixture when Bert Lina / Lito Alvarez traded him to SMB for the magnificent Ken Bono (who never even played for AIR21).

It is said that Arwind Santos came with a P20M tag-price when he was sold este traded to SMB.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Apr 03, 2013 at 10:06 PM
reports say that Alaska was also supposed to enlist the services of Mbenga but did not push through with it because he was asking for a salary that was above the salary cap for imports. i wonder if he had the same asking price for Barako....

*****

great games today. Ginebra on a five-game winning streak, and are now at third place. far from the cellar where they used to be a few weeks back.

and waht a come from behind win by San Mig Coffee....
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Apr 03, 2013 at 10:24 PM
reports say that Alaska was also supposed to enlist the services of Mbenga but did not push through with it because he was asking for a salary that was above the salary cap for imports. i wonder if he had the same asking price for Barako....

*****

great games today. Ginebra on a five-game winning streak, and are now at third place. far from the cellar where they used to be a few weeks back.

and waht a come from behind win by San Mig Coffee....

eh wala naman nagagawa sa NBA yung Mbenga na yan di ba? considering na ang gagaling na ng kasangga nya sa NBA
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Apr 03, 2013 at 10:58 PM
that's what i heard din. all he can brag about is he was with the lakers and he was coached by PJ.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Apr 04, 2013 at 07:27 AM
^ Makes you wonder more about Toroman ...... he preaches good ball movement and player conditioning, but his eye for talent has been suspect.

All of his chosen imports for the SMC teams have been duds and failures (Jackson Vroman anyone?) ....... plus his rotations for his PETRON and BARAKO teams have been iffy.

He doesn't play pros like Kramer, Allado, etc ..... who have long proven to be steady veterans. Instead he gives minutes to hype-jobs such as Intal, Macapagal, Villanueva, etc.

To top it all off, he hands the reins of the BARAKO offense to no-conscience, no-passing PG Urbiztondo.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Apr 06, 2013 at 09:58 PM
Incredible game last night by Dondon Hontiveros...
22points coming from 7 triples...
Classic Dondon :)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Apr 07, 2013 at 09:11 PM
Cardiac ball game a while ago between Ginebra and Meralco.
Ginebra winning by just a single point... whewww!!! ^-^

Back to back triples by Buenafe and Sunday were huge in the closing seconds...
Nice game by Baracael especially in the 4th keeping Ginebra in the lead...
Stepping up in the absence of Caguiao...
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: frequenzy on Apr 08, 2013 at 05:05 PM
was able to watch mbenga on barako vs petron. he plays the same way as he did on the nba so I dont think he could help barako.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Apr 08, 2013 at 06:28 PM
Cardiac ball game a while ago between Ginebra and Meralco.
Ginebra winning by just a single point... whewww!!! ^-^

Back to back triples by Buenafe and Sunday were huge in the closing seconds...
Nice game by Baracael especially in the 4th keeping Ginebra in the lead...
Stepping up in the absence of Caguiao...

While watching the game, I couldn't help but say to myself what a stupid rule the "review of each out-of-bounds play before a call is made" is. On two instances, Meralco was able to map out what they had to do even without any time-outs left, just because of the stupid rule. Ginebra was lucky Dawson's shot did not go in.

On the two instances wherein the referees reviewed the video, it was obvious who should get the ball. There was no question from the teams as to who touched the ball last. It would be much better if they just review instances where it is not really clear who touched the ball last.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: wacksy1021 on Apr 08, 2013 at 06:38 PM
While watching the game, I couldn't help but say to myself what a stupid rule the "review of each out-of-bounds play before a call is made" is. On two instances, Meralco was able to map out what they had to do even without any time-outs left, just because of the stupid rule. Ginebra was lucky Dawson's shot did not go in.

On the two instances wherein the referees reviewed the video, it was obvious who should get the ball. There was no question from the teams as to who touched the ball last. It would be much better if they just review instances where it is not really clear who touched the ball last.

I shared the same sentiments on this matter....
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ninjababez® on Apr 09, 2013 at 03:24 AM
actually any "review", hassle for the players and the game itself.  dapat when the ref calls it, yun na yun. 
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Apr 09, 2013 at 04:30 AM
actually any "review", hassle for the players and the game itself.  dapat when the ref calls it, yun na yun. 

I agree with the PBA rule of reviewing out-of-bounds plays after the last 2-min mark ...... however, some sequences are easily obvious on what team will get possession.

It does result in scenarios wherein teams get freebie timeouts ..... makes the game longer than necessary.

The PBA ref group should pattern it after the NBA model ...... or perhaps maintain a challenge-count per team per game.

==========================================================================

The one very stup1d rule that the PBA needs to IMMEDIATELY abolish ...... that delay-of-game call - called when any player from the offensive team touches the ball, after a made shot.

It's almost 2nd nature in basketball to touch, graze, catch the ball ..... or tap the ball towards the sidelines (helping the refs actually) after a made shot.

I get that the rule aims to prevent unnecessary delays ....... but in reality it does the opposite, now nobody wants to tap the ball towards the refs or the sidelines - which makes the game longer than necessary. ........ ironic.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: habibs on Apr 09, 2013 at 06:52 AM
While watching the game, I couldn't help but say to myself what a stupid rule the "review of each out-of-bounds play before a call is made" is. On two instances, Meralco was able to map out what they had to do even without any time-outs left, just because of the stupid rule. Ginebra was lucky Dawson's shot did not go in.

On the two instances wherein the referees reviewed the video, it was obvious who should get the ball. There was no question from the teams as to who touched the ball last. It would be much better if they just review instances where it is not really clear who touched the ball last.

+1
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Apr 10, 2013 at 11:55 AM
Looking forward to the game later between Ginebra and Alaska...
It seems Caguiao will still sit this one out, Mamaril is also out. Casio, Thoss and Baguio are still not 100%.
We will see who will step up for both teams :)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Apr 10, 2013 at 09:38 PM
Very very impressive game from Alaska snapping Ginebra's winning streak... (http://www.pashnit.com/forum/images/smilies/clap.gif)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Apr 10, 2013 at 09:39 PM
unlike the undertaker, ginebra's streak came to an end tonight....
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Apr 10, 2013 at 09:58 PM
Alaska's just too smart and too composed for Ginebra. Wala man lang panic nung hinabol sila nung 3rd.

I'm really getting more impressed with Luigi Trillo. He made 2 excellent substitutions in that last few minutes. He pulled out Abueva and put Dondon in who made a huge 3 to up the lead to 5. Then he pulled out Baguio in the next play and put Abueva back in. Instead of having 3 guys on the perimeter to take a low percentage shot, Alaska had 3 guys up front who were ready to get a pass from a driving Casio. And that's what Abueva just did.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: dmaximus on Apr 11, 2013 at 09:03 AM
Pagnanonood ako ng live laging talo Ginebra. :/ Im not a hater of Abueva buttheres something in him that's irritating.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mannix on Apr 11, 2013 at 09:52 AM
^feeling nya Harden sya? :))
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Apr 11, 2013 at 10:06 AM
Im not a hater of Abueva buttheres something in him that's irritating.

i share the same sentiment. he always flashes that "ang galing ko, noh?" look whenever he makes a shot. but he is really good, though.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: dmaximus on Apr 11, 2013 at 10:24 AM
i share the same sentiment. he always flashes that "ang galing ko, noh?" look whenever he makes a shot. but he is really good, though.
also a good trash talker. He will try to get in your skin. for a rookie thats something :D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Apr 11, 2013 at 01:22 PM
also a good trash talker. He will try to get in your skin. for a rookie thats something :D

But if he has aspirations of someday being an MVP, then he must learn to tone down his trash-talking and flashing that "ang galing ko, noh?" look. Thirty percent of the criteria for MVP goes to press and media votes while 25% goes to players' votes. We, as fans, like it, though we do sometimes get irritated when done too much, when players show off or try to intimidate others but these have negative effects on the press and the players themselves.

Asaytono, leading in statistical points, lost out to Agustin. No one wanted to vote for Asaytono, the main "contrabida" from Yeng Guiao's Swift team! Fernandez, though leading in statistical points and having lead San Miguel to a grandslam, lost out to Paras who was lobbied for in the media by Ronnie Nathanielz.

Tama na ang pagpapasikat. His antics will hurt his team rather than help it in the long run.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Apr 11, 2013 at 02:48 PM
Nelson Asaytono was the first player that came to my mind when i read the first part of your post. IIRC, the MVP race between asaytono and agustin was very close and that it was the media and player votes the carried agustin to the MVP trophy.

Tama na ang pagpapasikat. His antics will hurt his team rather than help it in the long run.

i think it would hurt HIM more if he does not tone down....physically, that is. subujan nyang asarin si mamaril at si villanueva. :P
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on Apr 14, 2013 at 12:08 PM
Ginebra vs. TNT tonight, any insights on this game? We're planning to watch live sa MOA arena, and wala ko makita na preview, walang kwenta pba website.. First time to watch again, last was during meneses' days.. Tia.. 
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Apr 14, 2013 at 12:49 PM
Ginebra vs. TNT tonight, any insights on this game? We're planning to watch live sa MOA arena, and wala ko makita na preview, walang kwenta pba website.. First time to watch again, last was during meneses' days.. Tia.. 

Little at stake for the BGK-TnT game ..... both have already made it through the quarterfinals. Their seeding/slot will be the only thing to settle.

AFAIK, win or lose, BGK will land in a best-of-3 match ...... while TnT needs to win one of their 2 remaining games, to avoid a potential twice-to-win disadvantage.

TnT will parade a new import Jerome Jordan ...... curious to see if his NBA pedigree will serve him well, or he'll turn out a stiff, much like most past imports with NBA experiences.

Enjoy watching it live ...... heard good things about MOA arena.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on Apr 14, 2013 at 12:56 PM
^ Thanks bro..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ivannn on Apr 14, 2013 at 01:09 PM
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Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ivannn on Apr 14, 2013 at 01:10 PM
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Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Apr 14, 2013 at 09:31 PM
with Ginebra's 14pt loss to TNT, they would end up at either 6th or 7th depending on the results of Meralco's last game.

A Meralco win vs RoS on Wednesday will send Ginebra to 7th. A Meralco loss will send Ginebra to 6th.

So the loss to TNT tonight was a big one for Ginebra. They could go up against RoS in the quarters. I don't think Meralco would win vs RoS though so it's either SanMig or Petron for Ginebra. Both are tough match ups as well.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Apr 14, 2013 at 11:58 PM
parang ang lata ni macklin kanina....
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Apr 15, 2013 at 02:47 PM
possible scenarios for the quartefinals ---

Talk n Text and Rain or Shine wins
Ginebra vs sanmig coffee best of 3

Talk n Text and Meralco wins
Ginebra vs ROS, ROS TWICE TO BEAT

Petron and Rain or Shine wins
Ginebra vs petron Best of 3

Petron and Meralco wins
Ginebra vs ROS, ROS TWICE TO BEAT
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Apr 15, 2013 at 03:11 PM
Kahit sinong makakalaban ng Gin Kings mahihirapan sila. Lahat mabibigat...
Pero I think they will give a good fight.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: rony on Apr 15, 2013 at 03:29 PM
Kahit sinong makakalaban ng Gin Kings mahihirapan sila. Lahat mabibigat...
Pero I think they will give a good fight.

Yun mga talo ng gin kings nakuha na ng kalaban kung papaano depensahan si macklin. Dapat me iba sila option kugn gusto pa uli nila manalo.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Apr 16, 2013 at 10:33 PM
bad news for the gin kings ---

http://www.solarsportsdesk.ph/bk/bknews/2013/04/16/dr.-canlas-rules-out-quarterfinals-return-for-ginebra-s-mark-caguioa (http://www.solarsportsdesk.ph/bk/bknews/2013/04/16/dr.-canlas-rules-out-quarterfinals-return-for-ginebra-s-mark-caguioa)

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Apr 17, 2013 at 11:11 AM
In many ways, Caguioa's absence has improved the overall play of BGK ...... improved balance among the locals and much better ball movement - everyone knows about MC47's propensity in jacking-up early and bad shots.

Aside from the 6-game win streak, BGK's recent losses were actually competitive ones ...... they showed the ability to rally when needed; and these were against some of the elite teams of the PBA.

That being said, BGK is still best served with a healthy Caguioa ...... he just has to sustain his matured, toned-down game, which he has shown the past few conferences now.

 
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Apr 17, 2013 at 07:50 PM
I don't know what Ginebra was thinking by trading for Josh Urbiztondo. They let go of Keith Jensen and a 2nd rd pick for Urbiztondo, a guy who only knows how to shoot from 3.

Anyway, with the Meralco win earlier, Ginebra will meet RoS in the quarters with a twice-to-beat disadvantage.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Apr 18, 2013 at 01:12 AM
http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/ginebra-boosts-backcourt-with-acquisition-of-urbiztondo-in-time-for-playoffs (http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/ginebra-boosts-backcourt-with-acquisition-of-urbiztondo-in-time-for-playoffs)

darn! what were they thinking??!! Jensen and a 2nd round draft pick? Urbiztondo is not that valuable. sana big man na lang kinuha nila.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Apr 18, 2013 at 02:25 AM
question ---

is josh urbiztondo pure pinoy?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Apr 18, 2013 at 11:32 AM
That was a crazy move by Ginebra...
Kung kukuha din pala sila ng PG bakit pa nila pinakawalan si Mike Cortez... ???
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Apr 18, 2013 at 11:38 AM
question ---

is josh urbiztondo pure pinoy?

Fil-Am
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Apr 18, 2013 at 11:50 AM
Fil-Am

oo nga. read somewhere just now.

the reason i asked was i had this thought on why they released jensen (a fil-am). rumors are prevalent kasi that Asi and/or Menk will be playing for ginebra. releasing jensen would make their fil-foreign players to 4 thereby allowing them to acquire Menk or Asi. obviously, i'm wrong.

i still cannot understand why they acquired urbiztondo. masyadong lugi ang ginebra. and how can he help BGSM in the quarters when he has yet to fit the system and jell with the rest of the team. baka makasira pa sya. or baka hindi din sya magamit. look at Taha. as the cliche goes, mas madalas pa ang ulan sa sahara kesa sa paglalaro ni Taha.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Apr 18, 2013 at 01:31 PM
Sayang nga si Keith Jensen...
Parang Vince Hizon sana siya kapag nahinog ^-^
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Apr 18, 2013 at 01:42 PM
^^ actually, reports say that he is a younger version of rudy hatfield, with an outside touch
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Apr 18, 2013 at 01:44 PM
^^ actually, reports say that he is a younger version of rudy hatfield, with an outside touch

Yeah pwede din...
Sayang talaga.
SMC teams talaga gusto instant talent, ayaw hintayin magbloom ang isang prospective player...
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: beknat on Apr 19, 2013 at 10:38 AM
hindi na dapat kinuha ng Ginebra si Urbiztondo e, may Tenorio, Helterbrand at Labagala na sila e, at chaka di ko gusto laro ni Urbiztondo, tira ng tira sa tres. pano pag dalawa sila nasa loob ni Caguioa, mag-aagawan sila kung sino titira sa kanilang dalawa
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: retro12195 on Apr 19, 2013 at 11:02 AM
 :(
Sayang nga si Keith Jensen...
Parang Vince Hizon sana siya kapag nahinog ^-^
deadshot sa amateur to sayang. :(
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Apr 20, 2013 at 09:09 PM
All SMC teams now with one foot out the door. Petron and San Mig Coffee in a do-or-die situation. Ginebra, on the other hand, is looking like they're about to go out. They're down 15 in the 3rd and if they don't wake up soon, maagang bakasyon na naman at the hands of RoS.

EDIT: And they did wake up. Ginebra now up 1 after being down 15.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Zenki on Apr 20, 2013 at 09:39 PM
lamang na ang GINEBRA ng 7!!!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Apr 20, 2013 at 09:46 PM
What a turnaround by Ginebra. Now up double digits.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: retro12195 on Apr 20, 2013 at 09:55 PM
nice game by JJ :D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Apr 21, 2013 at 06:22 PM
Naunahan pa ng 3rd seed Petron ang 7th seed Ginebra ma-eliminate. Petron once again loses a playoff series to TNT.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: jericm on Apr 22, 2013 at 09:40 AM
Petron wasn't able to fully recover after that Balkman incident.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mikz023 on Apr 22, 2013 at 09:57 AM
Petron wasn't able to fully recover after that Balkman incident.

If Balkman was there i think Petron has a chance in making into the semis.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Apr 22, 2013 at 10:35 AM
hindi na dapat kinuha ng Ginebra si Urbiztondo e, may Tenorio, Helterbrand at Labagala na sila e, at chaka di ko gusto laro ni Urbiztondo, tira ng tira sa tres. pano pag dalawa sila nasa loob ni Caguioa, mag-aagawan sila kung sino titira sa kanilang dalawa

yan ang magiging problema ni urbiztondo. pagbalik ni caguioa, sigurado mababangko na naman yan. we have to remember the reason why they supposedly acquired josh --- to fill the void left by caguioa. i'm thinking (and i hope i'm right :) ) josh will be eventually traded when caguioa returns(to his old game)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Apr 22, 2013 at 11:04 AM
If Balkman was there i think Petron has a chance in making into the semis.

Henry Simms played too much on the outside, settling for jump shots where other imports would have drove in. He may have been a good fit for the team, allowing Junmar Fajardo to play more minutes at the center spot while he played four. Unfortunately, what the team needed was a go-to-guy during clutch moments.

Though Petron is made up of superstars, they do not have a point guard in the mold of a Jimmy Alapag, Jason Castro, LA Tenorio or JV Casio who would not be afraid to take the crucial shots when needed. Cabagnot can play great for almost the whole game but come crucial moments simply disappears.

Petron does not have a two, three or four in the mold of a James Yap, Mark Caguoia, Gary David, Cyrus Baguio or even Macmac Cardona who demand the ball come crucial time. These players can drive to the hoop or hit the three when left alone. These players are slashers, shooters and scorers rolled into one. Santos, Washington, Lutz, Lassiter, Tubid, Yeo do not fit the mold.

Unless Petron finds someone the other players would be willing to play second fiddle to, or learn to play team ball like RoS, or learn to trust each other like the way TnT players trust in each other, (Alaska is starting to show the same trust), they would always find it difficult to finish games even when leading by large margins.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: retro12195 on Apr 22, 2013 at 01:22 PM
BOBO kasi coach ng PETRON >:(
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: beknat on Apr 22, 2013 at 01:48 PM
BOBO kasi coach ng PETRON >:(

correct..dapat coach ang palitan ng petron e..kung tutuusin malakas ang players ng petron e..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: rony on Apr 22, 2013 at 01:53 PM
Kargado masyado ng talent ang petron.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: beknat on Apr 22, 2013 at 02:05 PM
hindi marunong magpa-ikot ng tao ang coach nila.chaka mero na ba syang experience sa pagco-coach?
nagulat na lang ako nung sya ang coach ng petron e.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Apr 22, 2013 at 02:53 PM
Once again, PETRON has proven that too many cooks will spoil the broth ..... karma is indeed a b*tch for Loverboy Eala.  ;D

Seriously, too many "name" players with too few minutes to be spread around.

The unfortunate thing with PETRON, their primary take-charge-guy Cabagnot hogs the ball and runs the hero-ball play way too much.

I've always said that PETRON should've never let go of valuable role players such as Duncil, Pennisi, etc .... even Hubalde ...... these are players who are usually effective even without the basketball.

Expect more fantasy trades from Eala ....... he has the rosters of BARAKO BULL, AIR21 & GPORT to play around with. Don't be surprised if Gary David is "suddenly" traded to an SMCorp team soon.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Apr 22, 2013 at 05:38 PM
Naunahan pa ng 3rd seed Petron ang 7th seed Ginebra ma-eliminate. Petron once again loses a playoff series to TNT.

dapat lang, sobra kase silang mag hoard ng player eh, mabuti yana baka sakaling maisip nilang ipamigay na yung ibang palyer sa team na mahihina
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mikz023 on Apr 22, 2013 at 08:46 PM
What a do or die game monday!! Makapigil hininga! Congrats Ginebra!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Apr 22, 2013 at 08:50 PM
That has got to be the most painful miss in Jeff Chan's career. He was all alone for that putback!

RoS should go back to that game they lost vs Alaska for the number 1 seed. If they won that, they could have avoided Ginebra in the quarters.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Boy B on Apr 22, 2013 at 08:52 PM
Go Ginebra!:)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Apr 22, 2013 at 09:34 PM
they had to beat rain or shine twice.....and twice did they beat them. great game.

That has got to be the most painful miss in Jeff Chan's career. He was all alone for that putback!

definitely...and he even used his left hand! the frustration is so evident on his face after the final buzzer sounded. he must be blaming himself till now.

the match-up between tiu and tenorio was fun to watch. they were very physical against each other. but it seems they were enjoying it. pangiti-ngiti pa sila.

on to the semis against talk and text....

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Apr 22, 2013 at 09:54 PM
Congrats Gin Kings!!!
Great back to back wins!!!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Apr 22, 2013 at 10:00 PM
on to the semis against talk and text....

and this is were the dream would end???
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Apr 23, 2013 at 10:56 AM
and this is were the dream would end???

i beg to disagree...
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: beknat on Apr 23, 2013 at 11:07 AM
sabi kasi twice to beat, masunurin lang naman ang Ginebra e.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Apr 23, 2013 at 12:51 PM
and this is were the dream would end???

TnT would be the safe bet in the upcoming semis against BGK ..... moreso that key people (Alapag, Reyes, Dillinger, Castro, Peek, etc) have recovered from injury and Ranidel has awoken from his scoring slump.

Norman Black is one of the best in making defensive schemes for certain players, he'll have something cooked up for Macklin (again).

That being said, it'll be fun to watch BGK attempt to overcome the odds again ...... like I said, BGK has much better & faster movement and player rotation - all because of Caguioa's injury.

Imagine an ALASKA-BGK Finals series ...... Their last elims match drew 15k+ paying fans, a Finals series would be absolute blockbuster.

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: beknat on Apr 23, 2013 at 01:27 PM
meron na bang ticket para sa laban ng Ginebra at Talk n Text?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Apr 23, 2013 at 06:25 PM
i beg to disagree...

you can always beg sir but it will not change the outcome, kung talunin ng BGK ang Talk and Text sa series, 500 pesos off yung kukunin mo sa akin, pag tinalo ng TNT nag BGK, you owe me a crispy pata....
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Apr 23, 2013 at 06:26 PM
Imagine an ALASKA-BGK Finals series ...... Their last elims match drew 15k+ paying fans, a Finals series would be absolute blockbuster.

pardon my ignorance, Alaska is in the finals already?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Apr 23, 2013 at 06:34 PM
pardon my ignorance, Alaska is in the finals already?

Not yet. They're still waiting for an opponent for the other semis series, either Meralco or San Mig Coffee.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Apr 23, 2013 at 06:47 PM
Yes TnT is the stronger team but for sure Ginebra will give a good fight. Star studed din naman ang TnT like Petron. Imagine almost half of the Philippine team is composed of TnT players... Nonetheless don't count Ginebra out of the game yet ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Apr 23, 2013 at 07:20 PM
Alin ang kikita? ;D
Tnt - Meralco - malamang lalangawin. a e maraming manonood na empleyado. kita pa rin.
TnT - San Mig - kikita sa fans ng San Mig
TnT - Alaska - kikita sa fans ng Alaska
Ginebra - Meralco - kikita sa fans ng Ginebra
Ginebra - San Mig - kikita ng husto
Ginebra - Alaska - tiba-tiba
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Apr 23, 2013 at 09:27 PM
you can always beg sir but it will not change the outcome, kung talunin ng BGK ang Talk and Text sa series, 500 pesos off yung kukunin mo sa akin, pag tinalo ng TNT nag BGK, you owe me a crispy pata....

hehe...ayos! :P

this will be a good series. norman black has found an effective antidote to Macklin. i'm sure Ginebra will find an antidote of their own to set macklin free again.

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Apr 23, 2013 at 10:31 PM
It's the Ginebra locals who need to show up every game. So far, it's now you see me, now you don't for them.

The locals of TNT have found their groove. Castro's moving better. Ranidel is shooting better. Ryan Reyes has become more aggressive on offense. Peek is back. Rabeh has slowly gotten his confidence back. They're looking more dangerous by the day. And their import isn't even a factor yet.

Ginebra has to make sure that everyone contributes. They need more from their vets Jayjay, Kerby and Hatfield. Di kaya ni Tenorio mag-isa. Caguioa could come back but they can't expect him to put up the same numbers he did right away. He'll be rusty. Kung aasa lang sila kay Macklin, they'll be swept by TNT.

The semis is just a best-of-5 so di pwedeng mag-relax ng kahit isang game.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Apr 24, 2013 at 12:09 AM
It's the Ginebra locals who need to show up every game. So far, it's now you see me, now you don't for them.

The locals of TNT have found their groove. Castro's moving better. Ranidel is shooting better. Ryan Reyes has become more aggressive on offense. Peek is back. Rabeh has slowly gotten his confidence back. They're looking more dangerous by the day. And their import isn't even a factor yet.

Ginebra has to make sure that everyone contributes. They need more from their vets Jayjay, Kerby and Hatfield. Di kaya ni Tenorio mag-isa. Caguioa could come back but they can't expect him to put up the same numbers he did right away. He'll be rusty. Kung aasa lang sila kay Macklin, they'll be swept by TNT.

The semis is just a best-of-5 so di pwedeng mag-relax ng kahit isang game.

TnT is not yet at full force. Williams is still not around. Fonacier is still in a slump. Dillinger's game has gone down. Ginebra has got to ride the momentum of beating RoS and win first. It's difficult enough to beat TnT when they are not playing well. It would be much more difficult to beat them when they have the momentum.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: vinci on Apr 24, 2013 at 02:20 AM
sana nga alaska vs bgk sa finals. parang mid 90's lang.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: beknat on Apr 24, 2013 at 08:31 AM
best of five lang pala ang semis at finals
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Apr 24, 2013 at 07:29 PM
hehe...ayos! :P

this will be a good series. norman black has found an effective antidote to Macklin. i'm sure Ginebra will find an antidote of their own to set macklin free again.



dagdagan pa natin, pag tinalo ng BGK ang TNT sa series, sa yo na lang yung CDR-King na bluray player ko
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Apr 24, 2013 at 09:10 PM
As expected, SMC goes through the semis, over MERALCO ......

I see the improvement in Chris Ross' game ...... quick hands in the passing lanes & better recognition of teammates in scoring range. However, Ross just isn't lead PG material - extremely shaky perimeter shot, has two left hands when attempting layups, etc ..... indicative of a non-scorer.

Remember that Ross was drafted & quickly traded (for an ancient Paolo Mendoza) by an inept coach in Bo Perasol ...... which tells you a lot about both Ross & Perasol.  ;D

=========================================================

ALASKA-SMC ....... this will be a great series. However, without a shadow of a doubt, expect some "favorable" calls for SMC from the refs, during crucial moments..... hope I'm wrong though.

I can't ever recall a high-profile matchup wherein SMC / BMEG didn't get the homecourt treatment from the refs ........ there's a long-standing joke among the PBA Filam community, that the reason that J.Yap's team always gets the refs calls, is due to Kris Aquino.  ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Apr 24, 2013 at 10:05 PM
=========================================================

ALASKA-SMC ....... this will be a great series. However, without a shadow of a doubt, expect some "favorable" calls for SMC from the refs, during crucial moments..... hope I'm wrong though.

I can't ever recall a high-profile matchup wherein SMC / BMEG didn't get the homecourt treatment from the refs ........ there's a long-standing joke among the PBA Filam community, that the reason that J.Yap's team always gets the refs calls, is due to Kris Aquino.  ;D

And it used to be Alvin Patrimonio's Purefoods team which got the favorable calls from the referee.  ;) >:D :P
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: frequenzy on Apr 24, 2013 at 10:31 PM
so parang Lakers pala ang SMC :)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Apr 25, 2013 at 05:04 AM
And it used to be Alvin Patrimonio's Purefoods team which got the favorable calls from the referee.  ;) >:D :P

Yup, those PFOODS teams got more than their fair share of favorable calls from the refs ...... same as those Uichico/Jacobs SMB teams.

I've been following the PBA since the early 80's (for the longest time, live ..... hooray for compliementary season passes) ........ Have to say that these James Yap teams really takes the cake as far as hometown cooking is concerned.

I'm expecting a great series from the entire semis cast  ..... hoping that Salud gets proactive (and not reactive) when it comes to officiating these semis.

Suspending a referee after bad/missed calls can't change that win-loss record.

One more thing ...... To the REFS: Bawal banggain nang sino man sa opposing team, ang taong nag a-attempt nang freethrow ha.  ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Apr 26, 2013 at 03:08 PM
semis begins today. interesting match-ups.

alaska against sanmig coffee mixers, with alaska winless against the tim cone-led sanmig coffee mixers  this season.

depleted ginebra against heavily favored talk and text.

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: frequenzy on Apr 26, 2013 at 06:00 PM
ok sana rematch ng san mig coffee vs talk n text. tapos si harvey pa rin import. it was really a great battle last season.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Apr 26, 2013 at 08:23 PM
Ginebra is manhandling TNT right now. Led by 28 at one point. Still up 18 less than 3mins in the 3rd.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Nikkie on Apr 26, 2013 at 08:38 PM
Go Ginebra! Kuha na yan! :)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Apr 26, 2013 at 08:50 PM
Delikado ang Ginebra sa series na ito. tsk. tsk. tsk
Mas magaling ang Ginebra pag naghahabol, parang yung bidang nabubugbog muna sa umpisa pero gaganti sa huli. ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Apr 26, 2013 at 10:37 PM
one game lang pala ngayon, bukas pa pala ung isa.

it was a great game by ginebra. after getting a 2-0 lead, TnT trailed all the way. great adjustment by the gins. however, they still are the underdogs in this series. man-to-man, TnT is still the stronger team. i'm sure TnT will make some major adjustments for the crucial game 2, which promises to be a tough one.

baracael started the barrage of points. it picked up from there. this is the first significant game of urbiztondo since he transferred to ginebra. still not impressed with him, though. i think he only had one shot inside the three point arc. the rest were from the three point area.
 
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Apr 26, 2013 at 11:05 PM
one game lang pala ngayon, bukas pa pala ung isa.

it was a great game by ginebra. after getting a 2-0 lead, TnT trailed all the way. great adjustment by the gins. however, they still are the underdogs in this series. man-to-man, TnT is still the stronger team. i'm sure TnT will make some major adjustments for the crucial game 2, which promises to be a tough one.

baracael started the barrage of points. it picked up from there. this is the first significant game of urbiztondo since he transferred to ginebra. still not impressed with him, though. i think he only had one shot inside the three point arc. the rest were from the three point area.
 

As long as TnT's outside shots do not go in, Ginebra would have a very good chance of winning this series.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Apr 27, 2013 at 03:07 PM
Aba Allain malit ko na palang kainin ang mga sinabi ko, patay na discount ng 500 sa surround hehehehe, biglang tumigas crispy pata ko huhuhu
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: retro12195 on Apr 27, 2013 at 05:19 PM
bwenas ang GINEBRA  http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/04/27/13/tnt-suffers-another-blow-dillinger-figures-accident
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: frequenzy on Apr 27, 2013 at 08:30 PM
smc takes the first game. it was close all through out. bowles once again showed why he was the best import, scoring the last 3 baskets for smc. akala ko mag ot pa eh
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Apr 27, 2013 at 09:28 PM
Grind 'em out Game 1 between SMC & ALASKA ....... as expected, the refs gave SMC the crucial calls/non-calls over ALASKA.

It's always a mismatch when SMC & ALASKA meet ...... SMC has Tim Cone & the 3 guys in zebra uniforms.  ;D

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Apr 27, 2013 at 11:05 PM
Aba Allain malit ko na palang kainin ang mga sinabi ko, patay na discount ng 500 sa surround hehehehe, biglang tumigas crispy pata ko huhuhu

hehe...but it's still too early to tell. it's just one game. i'm sure norman black will make major adjustments tomorrow.

just noticed, though...taha seems to make life difficult for jerome jordan. i don't know if my observation is correct...
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on Apr 27, 2013 at 11:12 PM
Was not able able to watch the smc alaska game and Just checking on score, i dont know if these 2 teams struggled on offense or they were just so good on d, i know alaska has been playing great d but the scores.. 11-7 after first qtr, 28-17 after first half. Cant imagine kung ilan lang nanuod nito ng live.. :)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Apr 28, 2013 at 12:04 AM
It was a great defensive game from both teams. No one giving an inch. There was just that one really bad call that ruined the game for me. That foul called against Casio on Yap's 3pt shot was a bad call. Yap kicked his leg back that's why it made contact with Casio. Lumayo na nga si Casio, inabot pa.

Alaska needs significant contributions from their locals. Hindi pwedeng panaka-naka lang. Someone has to play big in Game 2 to beat San Mig and the refs. Their outside shots have to fall. And I think it's about time Baguio shows up. I don't know if the back is still bothering him but he hasn't been himself for quite a while now. He seems lost.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Apr 28, 2013 at 12:51 AM
it was a very low-scoring first half. i was able to catch up only the start of the third quarter, with the score at 27-22....and i thought it was only the start of the 2nd quarter.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Apr 28, 2013 at 08:17 AM
It was a great defensive game from both teams. No one giving an inch. There was just that one really bad call that ruined the game for me. That foul called against Casio on Yap's 3pt shot was a bad call. Yap kicked his leg back that's why it made contact with Casio. Lumayo na nga si Casio, inabot pa.

Alaska needs significant contributions from their locals. Hindi pwedeng panaka-naka lang. Someone has to play big in Game 2 to beat San Mig and the refs. Their outside shots have to fall. And I think it's about time Baguio shows up. I don't know if the back is still bothering him but he hasn't been himself for quite a while now. He seems lost.

Exactly ...... just a few teams have had sustained success against Tim Cone's SMC - and these are the great-passing, high energy teams of RoS & TnT.

It's hard enough to beat SMC on a grind 'em out, slow-down game (Cone plays a mean half-court defense, anchored by Pingris) ...... you also leave much room for the refs to screw you in the crucial stages.

When playing SMC, both RoS & TnT play hard, smart and fast ...... they run when the opportunity is there and do quick-shots with their smart passing.

Cyrus Baguio only played 20+ minutes during Game 1 ...... he usually plays in the 34+ min range. He also took a meager number of shots ...... it's very likely that still has those back problems.

============================================================================

It's bad enough that Kelly Williams & Ali Peek (IMO has become very underrated these days) are injured ...... it seems like TnT has lost Jared Dillinger to injury as well.

IMO TnT still has enough to beat BGK ...... but things just got a bit harder for Black.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: oweidah on Apr 28, 2013 at 05:25 PM
after mar, and jj. Will barangay ever be the same again? Who will keep the fire burning?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Apr 28, 2013 at 09:13 PM
1-1 na Ginebra-TNT. Locals na naman bida for TNT. Castro, Alapag and De Ocampo were big tonight. De Ocampo was clutch despite being in "foul trouble" all game long.

Anyway, pansin ko lang, yung mga "analystsr" ng PBA in the playoffs parang takot mawalan ng trabaho. Ang babait. Agree sa lahat ng tawag ng ref. Ang napapansin, mga magandang plays lang. You rarely hear them talk about what a team is doing wrong or what they should do to correct it. Yung mga analysis, lahat tungkol sa ginawang tama ng isang team. Ang boring pakinggan kaya I mute my TV when I'm watching the PBA these days. I wish they'd let Jolas cover the games again. With Jason Webb taking a leave due to the campaign period, wala ng matinong analyst sa coverage. Or they could bring back Andy Jao now that he works for MVP. He may mispronounce players' names but at least he knows how to cover a game.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Apr 28, 2013 at 09:49 PM
1-1 na Ginebra-TNT. Locals na naman bida for TNT. Castro, Alapag and De Ocampo were big tonight. De Ocampo was clutch despite being in "foul trouble" all game long.

Anyway, pansin ko lang, yung mga "analystsr" ng PBA in the playoffs parang takot mawalan ng trabaho. Ang babait. Agree sa lahat ng tawag ng ref. Ang napapansin, mga magandang plays lang. You rarely hear them talk about what a team is doing wrong or what they should do to correct it. Yung mga analysis, lahat tungkol sa ginawang tama ng isang team. Ang boring pakinggan kaya I mute my TV when I'm watching the PBA these days. I wish they'd let Jolas cover the games again. With Jason Webb taking a leave due to the campaign period, wala ng matinong analyst sa coverage. Or they could bring back Andy Jao now that he works for MVP. He may mispronounce players' names but at least he knows how to cover a game.

Same here sir. Tv is muted but for a different reason. The tv is muted whenever "The Dean" says whatever it is he was supposedly talking about. "Yan ang sinasabi ko" o "yan ang sinasabi natin" na lang ang laging naririnig sa kanya. Whatever it is a player or a team is doing right, that is what he was talking about. Whatever a player or team is doing wrong, that is what he was talking about. He knows it all! And he is always right. He is "The Dean" after all.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Apr 29, 2013 at 10:57 AM
agree. i really hate it when Henson is the commentator. he knows everything and he is always right. at napaka-OA mag-commentary. he, and Chino, (otherwise known as the ChiQuito duo) were the reason why i do not watch the local coverage of the NBA Finals (when they were the commentators). pareho silang sobrang OA.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: beknat on Apr 29, 2013 at 11:02 AM
^super O.A sila talaga sir..kala mo napaka-galing nila kung magsalita, minsan nga mali-mali pa yung sinasabi nila e.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on Apr 29, 2013 at 12:28 PM
agree. i really hate it when Henson is the commentator. he knows everything and he is always right. at napaka-OA mag-commentary. he, and Chino, (otherwise known as the ChiQuito duo) were the reason why i do not watch the local coverage of the NBA Finals (when they were the commentators). pareho silang sobrang OA.


Sayang nga si Jason Webb and his partner (I forgot his name), medyo comedy pero may laman.. like JVG in NBA..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Apr 29, 2013 at 01:09 PM


Sayang nga si Jason Webb and his partner (I forgot his name), medyo comedy pero may laman.. like JVG in NBA..

is it Magoo?

anyway, all-star week break pala ang PBA. after today's game 2 of the alaska-san mig semis, the next game will be on may 8. who will benefit from it? both ginebra and tnt have injured players. the one week break is enough for these injured players to recuperate. good for ginebra, because it will give caguoia, tenorio and mamaril to recover. bad for them, too, because it will also give peek time to recover. james yap can rest his back...but the one week break can also affect their momentum. let's just wait and see....
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on Apr 29, 2013 at 07:21 PM
Watching smc-alaska, konti na lang may mag susuntukan na sa na game nato, hehe, very physical game.. Nice.. :)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Apr 29, 2013 at 09:32 PM
Committed. That's the best word to describe Alaska's game tonight. They were committed to win. Committed to finally beat Tim Cone. Committed to play defense. Committed to play hard for 48 minutes.

If Game 1 showed why Bowles is the reigning Best Import, tonight's game showed why Rob Dozier will win it this time. He made his presence felt the entire game. 28pts, 27rebs, 13/16 FG. It was hard to defend him because he was never the focal point of the offense. He just moved without the ball, found his spots and crashed the boards. He always plays within the offense. Alaska is lucky Dawson and Mbenga passed up on their offers. Dozier is the perfect fit for them.

One more game done and still a lot of bad calls. It's getting worse instead of improving. I have to say James Yap had reason to be mad at the refs tonight.

Anyway, ang daming maganda na nanood tonight at MOA. ;D

Oh, and Jared Dillinger is out for 3-6 months because of the injury he suffered when he had that car accident. Tough break for TNT. I saw Ryan Reyes hurting in the last game and Fonacier is still in a slump. If they don't get anything from their wingmen, that will put more pressure on Castro and Alapag. Jordan has to show up now. Di na kaya ng TNT locals ngayon. They are too banged up from playing in the PBA and for Gilas. Ginebra knows that and they will take advantage of it.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Apr 30, 2013 at 05:08 AM
Like I've said, teams needs to play fast and hard to have a good shot at winning against Tim Cone's SMC ....... RoS & TnT have great W-L record against SMC, because they play hard and always keep the ball moving.

Last night, ALASKA played 'quick' when they had the opportunity ...... leading to many passing plays and/or putbacks for Dozier.

IMO Abueva played excellent denial defense/body check defense on Yap ...... sans the flopping of course.

I've seen much more forceful denial defense on Yap courtesy of Ibanes, Chan, R. Reyes, etc ..... heck, LA Tenorio was flopping most of Game 2 between BGK-TnT - nobody outside of Norman Black was complaining.  ;D


Anyway, ang daming maganda na nanood tonight at MOA. ;D


+ 1,000 ...... last night's cameraman should be commended.

One cute lady was even showed in three different instances during the game ..... I have no complaints whatsoever.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 01, 2013 at 11:10 PM
Ibang klase pala talaga kayabangan nitong si Abueva...
I'm not an Abueva hater nor a San Mig fan pero yung sinabi nya kay James Yap na "mag-chess na lang kung ayaw masaktan" saka "mas pipikunin pa nya si Yap sa next game" is just plain skwater and larong kanto mentally... Tsk tsk tsk... :-\

Magaling cya kung sa magaling but he has to learn how to respect his co-players and act like a pro ballplayer...

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/abueva-to-yap-kung-ayaw-niya-masaktan-mag-chess-na-lang-siya-v02 (http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/abueva-to-yap-kung-ayaw-niya-masaktan-mag-chess-na-lang-siya-v02)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on May 01, 2013 at 11:19 PM
Ibang klase pala talaga kayabangan nitong si Abueva...
I'm not an Abueva hater nor a San Mig fan pero yung sinabi nya kay James Yap na "mag-chess na lang kung ayaw masaktan" saka "mas pipikunin pa nya si Yap sa next game" is just plain skwater and larong kanto mentally... Tsk tsk tsk... :-\

Magaling cya kung sa magaling but he has to learn how to respect his co-players and act like a pro ballplayer...

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/abueva-to-yap-kung-ayaw-niya-masaktan-mag-chess-na-lang-siya-v02 (http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/abueva-to-yap-kung-ayaw-niya-masaktan-mag-chess-na-lang-siya-v02)

sinabi rin ni jaworski yan, dapat lang talagang mag chess na lang si yap kung ayaw nyang masaktan, or mag artista kaya
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 01, 2013 at 11:23 PM
sinabi rin ni jaworski yan, dapat lang talagang mag chess na lang si yap kung ayaw nyang masaktan, or mag artista kaya

Well the fact na rookie pa lang cya he must learn how to respect his co-players...

Over physicality and trash talk will not do him any good...
Title: Re: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: SiCkBoY on May 01, 2013 at 11:41 PM
Ibang klase pala talaga kayabangan nitong si Abueva...
I'm not an Abueva hater nor a San Mig fan pero yung sinabi nya kay James Yap na "mag-chess na lang kung ayaw masaktan" saka "mas pipikunin pa nya si Yap sa next game" is just plain skwater and larong kanto mentally... Tsk tsk tsk... :-

Magaling cya kung sa magaling but he has to learn how to respect his co-players and act like a pro ballplayer...

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/abueva-to-yap-kung-ayaw-niya-masaktan-mag-chess-na-lang-siya-v02 (http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/abueva-to-yap-kung-ayaw-niya-masaktan-mag-chess-na-lang-siya-v02)

It's a famous Jaworski quote. Just like "This is you."
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on May 02, 2013 at 12:18 AM
Nagpapaawa lang yan si James Yap. After they won Game 1, sabi niya ok lang yung physicality kasi semis na. Yung inisan nila ni Abueva part lang daw ng higher level of game sa semis. Nung natalo sa Game 2, nagreklamo. He was a non-factor nung Game 2 kaya ganyan yan. Even if he wasn't in foul trouble in that game, wala rin naman siyang magagawa kasi tira lang ng tira alam niya. Depensa kulang sa kanila nun.

Yap should take it as a complement that Alaska's best perimeter defender is guarding him. Abueva knows James is a key factor for San Mig and doing his best to defend him well is a show of respect.

Abueva took a beating the moment he entered the league. He never complained kasi it's sort of a rookie initiation. Sa ginawang pagreklamo ni Yap, parang sinasabi niya na okay lang tirahin ang rookie pero di sila pwede tumira.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on May 02, 2013 at 12:22 AM
Magkaiba ang context ng pagkakasabi ni Jawo sa pagkakasabi ni Abueva.
Si Jawo ang tinutukoy ay ang natural na pagkakaroon ng physical contact sa larong basketball samantalang si Abueva ay para na ring sinabi na talagang intention niyang saktan si Yap.
Maswerte si Abueva at halos wala na ng mga tunay na tirador sa PBA. Takot na rin sa maaaring ipataw na suspensyon kung kaya't wala ng masyadong mga balyador at tirador sa PBA. Kung nagkataon di na kailangan pang mag-flop ni Abueva kasi talagang babagsak at babagsak siya. Ingat na lang siya at baka may mag-ala Menor sa kanya.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on May 02, 2013 at 12:36 AM
Pingris' statement is actually the one that's saying na mananakit siya.

"Parating mo sa kanya 'to: tignan natin kung sino ang physical next game," an infuriated Pingris told Spin.ph. "Abueva, sino ka para katakutan ko?"

"Parating niyo sa kanya to: next game physical talaga wala nang bukas 'to," he fumed. "Sino sya para katakutan ko, makikita mo (Abueva) kung sino si Mark Pingris (sa) next game.

"Next game tignan niyo na lang," he added.


It's close to a threat already.

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/pingris-leaps-to-yap-defense-warns-abueva-will-get-what-hes-asking-for
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: beknat on May 02, 2013 at 08:45 AM
gusto lang sila panuorin lalo, kasi mas madaming nanunuod sa series ng Ginebra at TnT e, kaya gumagawa sila ng eksena.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: the_w0rks on May 02, 2013 at 10:01 AM
asked for tix for the May 8 game from a friend. hopefully I get one. maganda panuorin tong Abueva vs Pingris. :D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on May 02, 2013 at 12:30 PM
Parang bata naman si Pingris, dapat wala mga ganyang threat, gawin nya na lang.. puro bata kalaban nila, nag papagulang sila.. I'm not a fan of Abueva, but I noticed in game 2, lahat ng players ng san mig coffee wants to gang up on abueva, lahat gusto ko maki share sa siko, patid.. ilan beses bumagsak si abueva, and marami rin dun ang totoo.. pero wala naman sa kanya un, smile lang, sila yap pag binantayan ng mahigpit piling nila sinasaktan na sila..   
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: the_w0rks on May 02, 2013 at 12:48 PM
Parang bata naman si Pingris, dapat wala mga ganyang threat, gawin nya na lang.. puro bata kalaban nila, nag papagulang sila.. I'm not a fan of Abueva, but I noticed in game 2, lahat ng players ng san mig coffee wants to gang up on abueva, lahat gusto ko maki share sa siko, patid.. ilan beses bumagsak si abueva, and marami rin dun ang totoo.. pero wala naman sa kanya un, smile lang, sila yap pag binantayan ng mahigpit piling nila sinasaktan na sila..   

haha sanay kasi si abueva sa banatan nung college pa lang. :D

ilang beses din yan nabigyan ng mga red lions (watched up close) at ilang beses din gumanti ng mas matindi. haha
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on May 02, 2013 at 12:56 PM
haha sanay kasi si abueva sa banatan nung college pa lang. :D

ilang beses din yan nabigyan ng mga red lions (watched up close) at ilang beses din gumanti ng mas matindi. haha
oo nga noh, naalala ko nga nung NCAA days nila, pero wala dapat sinasabi.. ilang years na silang Pro, papa api pa sila sa rookie.. and besides isa lang si Abueva.. nag focus sila masyado kay abueva kaya natambakan sila nung game 2.. haha
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: frequenzy on May 02, 2013 at 01:04 PM
frusrated lang ang SMC nung game 2 dahil kampi ang refs sa Alaska. si abueva kasi konting bungo mo lang tumutumba na :)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on May 02, 2013 at 05:22 PM
Well the fact na rookie pa lang cya he must learn how to respect his co-players...

Over physicality and trash talk will not do him any good...

i hate Abueva, in fact sa mga previuos post ko Im saying he will not shine sa PBA, I ate my words obviuosly.

But that overphysicality and thrashtalk he is doing now? a lot of players did that to him, worst in fact than what he is doing with Yap now but he has never complained, why is Yap complaining now, bawal ang iyakin sa basketball.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 02, 2013 at 05:39 PM
i hate Abueva, in fact sa mga previuos post ko Im saying he will not shine sa PBA, I ate my words obviuosly.

But that overphysicality and thrashtalk he is doing now? a lot of players did that to him, worst in fact than what he is doing with Yap now but he has never complained, why is Yap complaining now, bawal ang iyakin sa basketball.

Hindi ko kinampihan si Yap. Like what I said hindi ako fan nung dalawa...
What I'm trying to point out is yung attitude ni Abueva...
Kung mapapansin nyo madami nang haters yang si Abueva because of his attitude.
Ok lang maging pisikal at mag trash talk pero yung sa kanya parang hindi na professional ang dating.
May limitasyon lahat...

I dont care kung umiyak or maglupasay pa yan si James Yap
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on May 02, 2013 at 05:45 PM
Exactly, pwede rin nila gawin kay abueva but without threatening him na sana, ng- media pa, :).. And pwede rin sila mag flop, but I always believe that only smart players can do that, and penissi is not one them, hehe.. Yung kampi nya dati sa baste na nasa smc na, hinakbangan sya habang nka higa.. Mas nakakapikon un..

Marami talaga asar kay abueva, nung ncaa asar ako dun pag talo letran dahil sa kanya, but sobrang sipag ng bata, you'll appreciate his game when you watch him.. If smc can focus on things they can control during the game, baka manalo pa sila.. Just my 2 cents..

Go spurs.. Oops..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on May 02, 2013 at 05:49 PM
Na-late ung post ko, hirap mg type sa celfon.. Bro louie, mag lupasay talaga, haha.. Pwede na mag artista si james..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on May 02, 2013 at 06:24 PM
Hindi ko kinampihan si Yap. Like what I said hindi ako fan nung dalawa...
What I'm trying to point out is yung attitude ni Abueva...
Kung mapapansin nyo madami nang haters yang si Abueva because of his attitude.
Ok lang maging pisikal at mag trash talk pero yung sa kanya parang hindi na professional ang dating.
May limitasyon lahat...

I dont care kung umiyak or maglupasay pa yan si James Yap

attitude is attitude, most of the time attitude is subject to perception and opinion, Abueva has this gungho style of playing, his attiude backs this up, whether professional looking or not, it remains a perception, many players have exhibited this kind of attitude but they were never percieved as unprofessional, it really depends on the view of people watching the game and the player being discussed, the attitude shown by Pingris is worst but I dont think both him and Abueva will translate this to anyhting that will intend to harm anyone, well at least thats my perception, im sure if they have been seen by the PBA officials as intentionally harming other players they will be sanctioned hard, well perhaps not in the Case of SMB, who seems to be getting out with murder on sanctions and the likes.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 02, 2013 at 09:07 PM
^ok
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on May 03, 2013 at 08:15 AM
Calvin Abueva plays rough defense, no different (or to a lesser degree) from many other players e.g. Pingris, Ibanes, Arana, R,Reyes, etc.

As for the flopping and perceived dirty play, I've seen much, much worse from Tubid - who is probably the dirtiest one in the current generation, even when he first came in the league.

As for the other antics e.g. smiling, gestures, tongue wagging, etc ...... many others do this as well.

IMO the reason why many opposing players get irritated by Abueva is because he is legit ...... he is very and uniquely talented.

He doesn't back down despite being a rookie - which is the right attitude all rookies should have.

James Yap & Pingris should cool it ....... Yap has long been the most protected player in the league - the refs calls mostly goes his way and he's crying over someone who plays no different from any of his usual guards e.g. Ibanes, Arana, Tubid, etc.


Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 03, 2013 at 09:31 AM
Well I never seen Tubid, Arana, Ibanez, Distrito(who also plays very tough and rough defense), etc. in media/public saying to their co-players na "mas pipikunin ko pa cya" or "maglaro na lang ng chess".
Seems kasi parang napakarami na nyang napatunayan at napakagaling para magsalita against his co-players...
If you will compare him to the "Living Legend" Robert Jaworski... ewan ko na lang ???

As I said before, Abueva is indeed a very talented and a player full of potential.
Hindi lang naman sa talent nakikita ang kagalingan ng isang player, pati sa pakikitungo sa ibang players, kakampi man o hindi...

Let na lang his play do the talking at wag na magsalita ng negatibo sa media/public...
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on May 03, 2013 at 11:24 AM
There's really nothing wrong with Abueva's statements. It was James Yap who ran crying to the media first. Abueva was just asked for a reaction. Hindi naman pwedeng di siya sumagot eh sinisiraan na siya ni Yap.

You just see the "mag-chess" part but if you read what he said before that, there was nothing negative about it. Any other player would have said the same. Coaches even say worse.

All Abueva meant was that he'll be even more aggressive to help his team win and hihigatan pa niya yung ginawa niya in Game 2 because it was effective. Never did he say that he will hurt Yap.

Abueva knows how to play to the crowd but he never seeks interviews or complains to the media. He's like Caguioa during his early years. He has always let his game do the talking. When he was slapped in the face by Rob Reyes last conference, he didn't say a thing. When he was hit with a forearm by Aaron Aban in last conference's semis, he didn't say a thing. He didn't even say anything about the hit he took from Najorda in Game 2. His statements have always been reactions to what other people said about him.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on May 03, 2013 at 12:29 PM
^ Exactly ....... Abueva got way much more than what was perceived as dirty play from him.

That Rob Reyes slam to Abueva's face would have made even Jaworki blush with envy ...... it was that blatant and dangerous.

Abueva never cries out to the media ...... all he gives out to the hard bumps are a smile and wag of the tongue - and fantards watching the game live (read: female and she-males) see this as being arrogant. Tsk Tsk.

James Yap ...... this guy has had a long history of getting the calls fro the refs - when he gets roughed-up with tight defending, he's been known to retaliate ...... just ask Ibanes, Yeo, Arana, etc.

Yap even kicked an import from the blindside, the ran away towards his teammates ......  classy stuff.  ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: the_w0rks on May 03, 2013 at 12:56 PM


Marami talaga asar kay abueva, nung ncaa asar ako dun pag talo letran dahil sa kanya, but sobrang sipag ng bata, you'll appreciate his game when you watch him..


This.

I hated him during his first few years in the NCAA whenever he went up against the Red Lions. Nakakaasar yung mukha at talagang madumi maglaro. Magulang at madami cheapshots. Pero during his last year, naappreciate ko yung puso at galing niya. Dirty player but kung makahustle for the ball, kita mong gustong gusto nya magbasketball.

Si Sakuragi naalala ko sakanya. Masipag na player. Can't hate him now (kasi di na nya papaiyakin ang Red Lions ko. hahaha)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mattia on May 03, 2013 at 01:55 PM
Calvin Abueva plays rough defense, no different (or to a lesser degree) from many other players e.g. Pingris, Ibanes, Arana, R,Reyes, etc.

As for the flopping and perceived dirty play, I've seen much, much worse from Tubid - who is probably the dirtiest one in the current generation, even when he first came in the league.

As for the other antics e.g. smiling, gestures, tongue wagging, etc ...... many others do this as well.

IMO the reason why many opposing players get irritated by Abueva is because he is legit ...... he is very and uniquely talented.

He doesn't back down despite being a rookie - which is the right attitude all rookies should have.

James Yap & Pingris should cool it ....... Yap has long been the most protected player in the league - the refs calls mostly goes his way and he's crying over someone who plays no different from any of his usual guards e.g. Ibanes, Arana, Tubid, etc.




Uy maganda pala ang PBA ngayon.  As a Red Lion , I used to hate Abueva.  As a basketball fan, I love his guts.  Go the Beast!!

As for James Yap, e talaga cry baby yan.  E si Kris Aquino lang napapaiyak sya, si Abueva pa???
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 03, 2013 at 02:01 PM
All Star na lang pag usapan natin...
Masyado tuloy sumisikat si Yap at Abueva... ;D

Dadating kaya si Yap sa game at magiging teammates sila ni Abueva? ^-^
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mattia on May 03, 2013 at 02:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVG--W1xYQI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVG--W1xYQI)

I think Abueva has been a recipient of so many cheap shots like this one from Rob Reyes.  You can play rough, talk thrash, but you can't hit a person like this.  To me, this has no class indeed.  Not basketball. 
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mattia on May 03, 2013 at 02:37 PM
I guess this is good for the PBA.  Eto ang gusto ng Pinoy fans, maaksyon, madrama.  That's why the PBA of old (Jawo, Cezar, Fernandez, Patrimonio, Jolas, etc ) was a sure hit to the viewers.  Eto yun gusto ibalik ng PBA.

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on May 03, 2013 at 05:46 PM
Abueva has been great for the PBA in many ways ....... his play makes for great watching - it's like watching a glorious pile-up (no injuries of course).

He has also energized the significant, but somewhat dormant, ALASKA fanbase a.k.a. non-SMC followers ...... which is good, since a revived ALASKA & a rising RoS brings a much needed set of fans to the PBA - those that give value to league balance and fair play.

Let me add one more aspect which makes Abueva hated by many ...... it's this one very simple fact: Calvin Abueva doesn't play for a SMCorp. team.

===================================================

I'm hoping that the ALL-Star game between GILAS & the PBA selection is played on a serious note ..... not much exhibitions please.

We'll hopefully see the progress of GILAS so far ....... an Abueva confrontation with Douthit will surely bring the house down.


Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on May 03, 2013 at 07:09 PM
Those players mentioned above who has not said anything to the media did not simply because they were not media worthy before, no one bothered to ask them anything whether perception or opinion, as all the others who posted above have said, Abueva merely responded to what was ask of him, I dont think a player who was slammed in the face and has not retaliated, or was bullied inside the court has never cried out should be called unprofessional and mayabang, i have not seen him talking to media nor lambasting anyone in media, as what has been always mentioned Abueva just let his game do the talking.

That is the problem sometimes in our society, people would insist what they have perceived in PBA players, its always easy to brand anyone as mayabang or unprofessional, I should know, I have been said of such so many times.

I hate Abueva so much while playing in the amateur becasue of his attitude, but that same attitude is what has endeared him to many PBA fans nowadays, off course not including the haters.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on May 07, 2013 at 09:37 AM
so....TnT replaced their import....
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on May 07, 2013 at 10:01 AM
so....TnT replaced their import....

And no Alapag tomorrow while Cagioua could come back for Ginebra. It's looking up for Ginebra. They just need to take advantage of it. I've always believed though, that teams with a lot of key players out are more dangerous. TNT might just do a Chicago tomorrow.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on May 07, 2013 at 01:58 PM
if alapag will not play, i don't think ginebra will field caguioa in. the new import for TnT could be a disadvantage for BGSM. note that ginebra lost to TnT the first time Jerome Jordan played. and, IIRC, it was the same game where Jordan registered his highest point output....because ginebra does not have any idea how this guy plays.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on May 07, 2013 at 02:26 PM
A risky but very calculated move by TnT ...... they've never been a team who'll rely on strong post play (an aged Peek is their main post presence for the longest time) and they do need more scoring with the injuries to Alapag, Dillinger & Williams.

Their new import is supposedly a standout scorer in the NBA D-League ...... this could catapult them to the Finals.

Note that this new import looks like the first import recruited under the watch of newly-hired team consultant Andy Jao.

I've long considered Andy Jao (along with Joaqui Trillo) the best team manager/consultant ever in the PBA ....... Jao has had a long he has had a long history of picking-out unheralded local talents and standout imports for teams like Manila Beer, Red Bull, RoS, etc.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on May 07, 2013 at 02:42 PM
With this moves of tnt, can we expect a high scoring game tom?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on May 07, 2013 at 03:03 PM
With this moves of tnt, can we expect a high scoring game tom?

Not likely ...... though I'd be a happy viewer if both team goes off on offense.

RoS is probably the only team in the PBA right now, which can consistently win with high-scoring games. 

Though very capable, TnT doesn't prefer high-scoring games ...... moreso with Norman Black replacing Chot Reyes as coach.

BGK itself has shown nice improvement on the defensive end this conference.

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 07, 2013 at 03:50 PM
TnT's new import Tony Mitchell, being the recent Rookie of the Year in NBA D-League, will be a problem in defense for Ginebra, as he is also known to be an explosive scorer. One problem now for TnT is how they wil defend Vernon Macklin. Ryan Reyes and Ali Peak will also be back, Peak could provide that inside defense. Mukhang magiging maganda ang laban bukas!!! Looking forward also sa Alaska-San Mig Coffee game which promises to be physical ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on May 07, 2013 at 09:51 PM
Not likely ...... though I'd be a happy viewer if both team goes off on offense.

RoS is probably the only team in the PBA right now, which can consistently win with high-scoring games. 

Though very capable, TnT doesn't prefer high-scoring games ...... moreso with Norman Black replacing Chot Reyes as coach.

BGK itself has shown nice improvement on the defensive end this conference.


thanks bro..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on May 08, 2013 at 08:23 PM
ALASKA wins game 3 despite playing against 8-people on the hardcourt ...... Nice try PBA refs! Try harder the next game.  ;)

Abueva is THE beast ...... win or lose, he'll make it exciting either way with his attitude for the game.

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on May 08, 2013 at 08:26 PM
Now that was some game!

Down 16, Alaska comes from behind to win in OT, 89-82. Abueva backing up his statements. Hinigitan pa niya yung ginawa niya nung previous games. Ngayon, dinagdagan niya ng offense. He spearheaded that rally in the 3rd after being down 16. Tapos team work na ng Alaska the rest of the way. Casio was big in the 4th and Jazul in OT. And Baguio finally showed up especially with that big block on Crybaby Yap that led to Abueva's exclamation dunk.

This win was really a team win. When Jazul missed that point blank game winner, everyone on Alaska supported the guy. Nobody talked about the missed shot. Instead, they just buckled down to work. When Abueva was celebrating already after the dunk, even rarely-used Eddie Laure told Calvin to focus. They know they're not done yet.

Yap was once again a non-factor. Nag-choke pa sa FT nung endgame. Pinapanalo na nga ng referee yung SanMig sa regulation, nag-choke pa si Bowles.

Abueva is really the most hated player in the league now. And it's understandable. He gives his share of cheap shots but he knows how to take them as well. He hit Barroca and tripped Bowles but I think yung tama niya mas marami. Binatukan siya ni Simon, muntik na tamaan ng suntok ni Bowles, tinangkang patirin ni Mallari, sinipa sa ulo ni Devance. I think half the game, he was on the floor. He's really one player you'd love to be on your team but you'd hate when he's not.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on May 08, 2013 at 08:55 PM
Ilang coaches kaya ang naiingit sa alaska because of abueva.. Although it was a team effort, he's the reason kung bakit nakahabol.. That offensive rebound against 3 smc including pingris and their import was impressive.. :)..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: the_w0rks on May 08, 2013 at 09:39 PM
Ilang coaches kaya ang naiingit sa alaska because of abueva.. Although it was a team effort, he's the reason kung bakit nakahabol.. That offensive rebound against 3 smc including pingris and their import was impressive.. :)..

The Beast indeed! Much respect to the guy. :D

on a side note, you must have been proud of your fellow Letran alum for redeeming himself in overtime. hehe
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on May 08, 2013 at 09:58 PM
Now that was some game!

Down 16, Alaska comes from behind to win in OT, 89-82. Abueva backing up his statements. Hinigitan pa niya yung ginawa niya nung previous games. Ngayon, dinagdagan niya ng offense. He spearheaded that rally in the 3rd after being down 16. Tapos team work na ng Alaska the rest of the way. Casio was big in the 4th and Jazul in OT. And Baguio finally showed up especially with that big block on Crybaby Yap that led to Abueva's exclamation dunk.

This win was really a team win. When Jazul missed that point blank game winner, everyone on Alaska supported the guy. Nobody talked about the missed shot. Instead, they just buckled down to work. When Abueva was celebrating already after the dunk, even rarely-used Eddie Laure told Calvin to focus. They know they're not done yet.

Yap was once again a non-factor. Nag-choke pa sa FT nung endgame. Pinapanalo na nga ng referee yung SanMig sa regulation, nag-choke pa si Bowles.

Abueva is really the most hated player in the league now. And it's understandable. He gives his share of cheap shots but he knows how to take them as well. He hit Barroca and tripped Bowles but I think yung tama niya mas marami. Binatukan siya ni Simon, muntik na tamaan ng suntok ni Bowles, tinangkang patirin ni Mallari, sinipa sa ulo ni Devance. I think half the game, he was on the floor. He's really one player you'd love to be on your team but you'd hate when he's not.

yung ilang player ng Sanmig ang bastos at walang modo eh, sa bawat tama ni Abueva patawa tawa lang, yung batok ni Jun Simon wala mang lang itinawag.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on May 08, 2013 at 10:01 PM
The Beast indeed! Much respect to the guy. :D

on a side note, you must have been proud of your fellow Letran alum for redeeming himself in overtime. hehe

RJ Jazul is a neighbor of mine or should I say will be( finishing touches na lang yung bahay nya sa subd namin), I had the chance to talk to him and he is very humble and approacheable, I hope he continue to enjoy the playing time given to him and he continue to make the most out of it.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on May 09, 2013 at 07:00 AM
RJ Jazul is a neighbor of mine or should I say will be( finishing touches na lang yung bahay nya sa subd namin), I had the chance to talk to him and he is very humble and approacheable, I hope he continue to enjoy the playing time given to him and he continue to make the most out of it.

Bro, you might have missed it ....... Jazul is the featured subject in that Masters facial wash series - the interview shows his new house and shows a bit of your village. Nice.

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I fully expect the refs to come back more determined to help SMC in Game 4 ....... it's clear as day, that the refs will do what they can to help SMC during crucial moments - which has been the agenda for decades now, moreso with Yap's arrival.

I recall a funny loose ball sequence last night - one of the refs clearly asks the other ref (who had the better angle) on who will get ball possession.

The other ref points to the ALASKA side ...... the main ref then promptly calls for a jump ball. WTF?

Only howls of protests forces the main ref to make the right call for ALASKA.

Dont get me started on the "foul" on Casio ....... somewhere Chot Reyes and his TnT crew are shaking their heads.  ;)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mattia on May 09, 2013 at 07:37 AM
Watching the replay now on youtube.  It's so exciting I missed the first Q of the MIA CHI game.

Anyway, great plays indeed by The Beast, Jazul and former Red Cub JV Casio ;D

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mattia on May 09, 2013 at 07:38 AM
Bro, you might have missed it ....... Jazul is the featured subject in that Masters facial wash series - the interview shows his new house and shows a bit of your village. Nice.

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I fully expect the refs to come back more determined to help SMC in Game 4 ....... it's clear as day, that the refs will do what they can to help SMC during crucial moments - which has been the agenda for decades now, moreso with Yap's arrival.

I recall a funny loose ball sequence last night - one of the refs clearly asks the other ref (who had the better angle) on who will get ball possession.

The other ref points to the ALASKA side ...... the main ref then promptly calls for a jump ball. WTF?

Only howls of protests forces the main ref to make the right call for ALASKA.

Dont get me started on the "foul" on Casio ....... somewhere Chot Reyes and his TnT crew are shaking their heads.  ;)

OO NGA.  Very dubious calls by the Refs.  Agree.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 09, 2013 at 07:53 AM
Lamang na sa tawag ung sanmig coffee ko talo pa hahaa..buti balang nakabawi ang tnt ko yahoo
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on May 09, 2013 at 01:26 PM
Bro, you might have missed it ....... Jazul is the featured subject in that Masters facial wash series - the interview shows his new house and shows a bit of your village. Nice.


yes sir i saw that Master thingy, really nice sundivision indeed, it has one of the more famous resort in Bulacan St Agatha Resort.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on May 09, 2013 at 01:28 PM

I fully expect the refs to come back more determined to help SMC in Game 4 ....... it's clear as day, that the refs will do what they can to help SMC during crucial moments - which has been the agenda for decades now, moreso with Yap's arrival.

I recall a funny loose ball sequence last night - one of the refs clearly asks the other ref (who had the better angle) on who will get ball possession.

The other ref points to the ALASKA side ...... the main ref then promptly calls for a jump ball. WTF?

Only howls of protests forces the main ref to make the right call for ALASKA.

Dont get me started on the "foul" on Casio ....... somewhere Chot Reyes and his TnT crew are shaking their heads.  ;)

best way to counter this, lakihan ang lamang but easier said than done.

sad state of the PBA, sadly wala yatang governing body na pwedeng manita sa ganitong nangyayari.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on May 09, 2013 at 01:47 PM
The Beast indeed! Much respect to the guy. :D

on a side note, you must have been proud of your fellow Letran alum for redeeming himself in overtime. hehe
yes bro, kaya muntik ko na mabatukan, di na dapat umabot ng ot.. Hehe.. Buti nakabawi sa ot.. Stags-red cubs- knights connection.. Not a fan of alaska, pero underdog talaga sila, hope they advance to finals and face ginebra.. Magandang laban un..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mattia on May 09, 2013 at 03:38 PM
James Yap was a non factor.  Why? Dyeta sya ni the Beast o injured lang talaga?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on May 09, 2013 at 04:00 PM
James Yap was a non factor.  Why? Dyeta sya ni the Beast o injured lang talaga?

Bad coaching, mostly. Pinipilit ni Tim Cone. SanMig would have fared better if Simon logged those minutes Yap did. Yap only knows how to shoot. He's not a facilitator and he's a bad defender. Ang bilis pa mawalan ng focus. If he can't score, wala siyang naitutulong sa team niya. Tim Cone can't seem to see that.

Trillo is really outcoaching Tim Cone so far in this series. If not for those bad calls in Game 1, this series would have been a sweep. Good thing for Tim Cone though, they still have the refs on their side. Kaya ang laki pa ng pag-asa ng SanMig. If Tim cone does his job, the refs will do the rest for him.. ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mattia on May 09, 2013 at 04:04 PM
Bad coaching, mostly. Pinipilit ni Tim Cone. SanMig would have fared better if Simon logged those minutes Yap did. Yap only knows how to shoot. He's not a facilitator and he's a bad defender. Ang bilis pa mawalan ng focus. If he can't score, wala siyang naitutulong sa team niya. Tim Cone can't seem to see that.

Trillo is really outcoaching Tim Cone so far in this series. If not for those bad calls in Game 1, this series would have been a sweep. Good thing for Tim Cone though, they still have the refs on their side. Kaya ang laki pa ng pag-asa ng SanMig. If Tim cone does his job, the refs will do the rest for him.. ;D

Thank bro.  I rarely watch the PBA but I am tuning in more right now lalo na pag Alaska.  I seem to agree that Yap is a "good" player but definitely not a legend in the making.  I think he's a bit overrated, isn't he?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on May 09, 2013 at 04:17 PM
James Yap was a non factor.  Why? Dyeta sya ni the Beast o injured lang talaga?
paramihan sila ng mintis ni Simon, both are overrated.. I liked their PG though..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mattia on May 09, 2013 at 04:32 PM
paramihan sila ng mintis ni Simon, both are overrated.. I liked their PG though..

Ohh, para palang si Kobe yan.  Magaleng!!! Hahahaha...
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on May 09, 2013 at 04:39 PM
Thank bro.  I rarely watch the PBA but I am tuning in more right now lalo na pag Alaska.  I seem to agree that Yap is a "good" player but definitely not a legend in the making.  I think he's a bit overrated, isn't he?

Yeah, he's a bit overrated. He can score, sure. But he needs to put up a ton of shots to get to his average.

The thing I hate about Yap is that he relies too much on his superstar status. He doesn't seem to work hard enough to improve his game. SanMig has a lot of scorers in their team but Yap still has a shoot first mentality. His passing never improved. If you watch their games, you'll notice that Tim Cone designs more isolation plays for Simon than Yap. Yap only sees the basket kasi when he has the ball. He's like Kobe in terms of shooting. But Kobe can switch to facilitator mode and still have the same impact. Jame Yap can't do that.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mattia on May 09, 2013 at 05:08 PM
Yeah, he's a bit overrated. He can score, sure. But he needs to put up a ton of shots to get to his average.

The thing I hate about Yap is that he relies too much on his superstar status. He doesn't seem to work hard enough to improve his game. SanMig has a lot of scorers in their team but Yap still has a shoot first mentality. His passing never improved. If you watch their games, you'll notice that Tim Cone designs more isolation plays for Simon than Yap. Yap only sees the basket kasi when he has the ball. He's like Kobe in terms of shooting. But Kobe can switch to facilitator mode and still have the same impact. Jame Yap can't do that.

Well, in terms of not working hard to improve his game, definitely not like Mamba. 

Sayang, I've seen him play and I think he can work on his passing ability much like the Aerial Voyager, Vergel Meneses who has very good passing ability.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mattia on May 09, 2013 at 05:26 PM
Kakatawa tong si RJ Jazul - missed a gimme 2 point basket then made 6 points on an and1 and a 3 point shot.  Gusto 3 points! 
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on May 09, 2013 at 07:03 PM
Yeah, he's a bit overrated. He can score, sure. But he needs to put up a ton of shots to get to his average.

The thing I hate about Yap is that he relies too much on his superstar status. He doesn't seem to work hard enough to improve his game. SanMig has a lot of scorers in their team but Yap still has a shoot first mentality. His passing never improved. If you watch their games, you'll notice that Tim Cone designs more isolation plays for Simon than Yap. Yap only sees the basket kasi when he has the ball. He's like Kobe in terms of shooting. But Kobe can switch to facilitator mode and still have the same impact. Jame Yap can't do that.

Spot on ..... Yap is nothing more than a volume shooter; needs to take a ton of shots to get his points.

I've long considered Simon as much better than Yap.

The superstar-entitlement can be blamed on Yap himself and many others ....... since he was in HS, Yap was already being courted by many NCR collegiate squads (Bong Tan won the bidding).

Add the fact that Yap was coached by the very inept Ryan Gregorio - IMO the 2nd worst coach ever in the history of the PBA ......... Gregorio is a speech-maker who has the thinnest playbook in all of pro basketball; that is, GIVE THE BALL TO THE SCORER, EVERYBODY ELSE PLAY SAFETY and/or CRASH THE BOARD.

Sayang, I've seen him play and I think he can work on his passing ability much like the Aerial Voyager, Vergel Meneses who has very good passing ability.

Meneses was indeed a great passer ...... which was mostly an offshoot of his very underrated back-to-the-basket game.

People remember Meneses for his high-flying forays to the basket ...... his post game is hardly remembered, but it was very effective ...... when he had his back to the basket, it usually leads to his patented "banda" shot or an assist to a streaking teammate.

I've always believed that passing is a natural skill ....... many guys have always had it, even during their early years ...... rare are those who 'learn' to pass late in their careers.

For current SG's, it's either you have the passing/setup skills (e.g. Baguio, R.Reyes, Arana, etc.) or you dont (e.g. Yap, David, Caguioa, etc.).



Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: frequenzy on May 09, 2013 at 11:34 PM
kawawa naman ang idol kong si James Yap :)

i used to watch live uaap games noon and masasabi ko medyo bumaba na rin yung level ng laro niya. but i dont consider him overrated, when it comes to crunch time malakas talaga yung loob niya di gaya nung iba na ayaw ng tumira or ayaw humawak ng bola.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mattia on May 10, 2013 at 12:01 AM
Spot on ..... Yap is nothing more than a volume shooter; needs to take a ton of shots to get his points.

I've long considered Simon as much better than Yap.

The superstar-entitlement can be blamed on Yap himself and many others ....... since he was in HS, Yap was already being courted by many NCR collegiate squads (Bong Tan won the bidding).

Add the fact that Yap was coached by the very inept Ryan Gregorio - IMO the 2nd worst coach ever in the history of the PBA ......... Gregorio is a speech-maker who has the thinnest playbook in all of pro basketball; that is, GIVE THE BALL TO THE SCORER, EVERYBODY ELSE PLAY SAFETY and/or CRASH THE BOARD.

Meneses was indeed a great passer ...... which was mostly an offshoot of his very underrated back-to-the-basket game.

People remember Meneses for his high-flying forays to the basket ...... his post game is hardly remembered, but it was very effective ...... when he had his back to the basket, it usually leads to his patented "banda" shot or an assist to a streaking teammate.

I've always believed that passing is a natural skill ....... many guys have always had it, even during their early years ...... rare are those who 'learn' to pass late in their careers.

For current SG's, it's either you have the passing/setup skills (e.g. Baguio, R.Reyes, Arana, etc.) or you dont (e.g. Yap, David, Caguioa, etc.).

For me one of the best passers is not a guard but a center = Ramon "El Presidente" Fernandez.  Once called a point center because he can dribble and bring down the ball.  He is the 2nd in all time assists, next to Jawo.  3rd is Dindo Pumaren.  During his days in Tanduay, Fernandez was making 15, 20 assists per game.  He was such a joy to watch. 
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on May 10, 2013 at 12:14 AM
For me one of the best passers is not a guard but a center = Ramon "El Presidente" Fernandez.  Once called a point center because he can dribble and bring down the ball.  He is the 2nd in all time assists, next to Jawo.  3rd is Dindo Pumaren.  During his days in Tanduay, Fernandez was making 15, 20 assists per game.  He was such a joy to watch. 

During a time when height dictated the position you play, Fernandez could have played all five positions easily. He is arguably, the best ever. Even when he was supposedly throwing games, he would still average in almost triple double. While Jaworski was the master of intimidation, Fernandez worked his "gulang" and "paninira" in such a finesse way that referees fail to see it.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on May 10, 2013 at 06:45 AM
El Presidente was just a standout during the golden era of the PBA ..... those magical elbows gave out a million "inadvertent" hits on the way to a million elegant shots.  ;D

OT: Me and a few friends ate at Dencio's in Tagaytay, when it first opened many years ago ..... during the middle of dinner, a brownout occurred.

After a few minutes, out came the owner of the place - El Presidente himself. He apologized for the inconvenience and promptly gave out bill discounts to everyone there ..... I even got to shake hands with the legend.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on May 10, 2013 at 10:52 PM
what a game.....series tied.

TnT could have won it...if only Mitchell was not that over-eager to be the "i won it for the team" guy. he even missed a lay-up!

great match-up between the two reinforcements. 45 for mitchell and 38 (iirc) for macklin. macklin was dead tired after the game.

it will be an exciting, and very physical game 5 on sunday.

the pressure is on SanMig to tie their own series tomorrow.

on another note, it was a very brave statement from Jolas when they were interviewing Macklin, referring to the FFP1 committed by VMack on Ranidel --- "i'm sure he did something stupid that's why you reacted that way".
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: VenoM_Unleashed on May 10, 2013 at 11:41 PM
Pambihira 'yung play ng Ginebra, isa lang. Give Macklin the ball at the low post sa left corner, buong gabi ginamit 'yung play na 'yun, buti na lang nanalo pa.  ;D

Tony Mitchell turning out to be a Tony Harris in the making, the Greatest Ball Hog of All Time.  :-X
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 11, 2013 at 08:05 AM
Actually both teams relied heavily on their imports.
Post up play for Ginebra...
Isolation game for TnT...

Tomorrow will be an all out WAR!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 11, 2013 at 10:00 AM
pasira ung isolation play ng tnt kay mitchell..

check na check....

puro kanan ung drive  - ang daming error....
hindi na pumapasa - kasi at the moment he doesnt trust his team members yet
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 11, 2013 at 11:21 AM
pasira ung isolation play ng tnt kay mitchell..

check na check....

puro kanan ung drive  - ang daming error....
hindi na pumapasa - kasi at the moment he doesnt trust his team members yet

Sana ganyan ulit laro nya bukas para manalo Gin Kings, hehehehe ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: frequenzy on May 11, 2013 at 03:48 PM
some of drives of mitchell sa end game makikita mo may foul talaga. one replay even showed hatfield holding him down. problema is lagi siya nagcomplain sa refs. iba rin talaga kapag ginebra ang kalaban :)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on May 11, 2013 at 07:57 PM
Nothing new so far in the ongoing game4 between ALASKA & SMC ....... refs doing all they can to help SMC win.

 ;)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: the_w0rks on May 11, 2013 at 07:59 PM
Abueva taking charges in the 4th. flop or not, he sells it well. hehe

***si JV Casio pag tinitingnan ko mukha talagang tricycle driver lang sa kanto. mukha pang napapanot.hahaha

pero shooter talaga.


***and abueva ties the game while typing this!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: vinci on May 11, 2013 at 08:10 PM
early foul trouble si casio pero di sya pinull out ni coach and its paying off.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: vinci on May 11, 2013 at 08:18 PM
dozier!!!!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on May 11, 2013 at 08:47 PM
Wow ..... defense, Abueva and some luck got the clincher for ALASKA tonight.

Their defense in the 2nd half was tight (barring the refs of course) ...... Simon and the other locals hardly scored. It was only Bowles and the countless "manipis" calls going his way that

That 3-pointer from Dozier was just plain luck ...... basically won the game for ALASKA.  :D

Abueva has always been a double-edged sword - can hurt his team, yet can also do great things for them.

Antics aside, he has shown great strides in his game maturity ...... ALASKA is the right team for him - playing time, plus many veterans at both his ears.

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One half of my dream series is accomplished ..... a BGK win tomorrow will be a DREAM series for the PBA.

Like I said, an ALASKA-BGK Finals series would be absolute blockbuster.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: retro12195 on May 11, 2013 at 08:53 PM
hehe iyak si TIM CONE ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on May 11, 2013 at 09:18 PM
This Alaska victory should be a lesson to Noli Eala and SMC. This is how you build a team that could challenge for championships. You get players for what they can bring to your team not for the name at the back of their jerseys. All those trades and coaching changes and all they have to show for it so far is one controversial championship. Gusto instant success eh. Alaska just showed that good things really do come to those who wait.

I've got to hand it to Luigi Trillo. Grabe tiwala niya sa players niya. He risked Casio, Thoss and Abueva in there even with foul trouble in the 1st half. Same goes for Dozier. He never put pressure on his import to score. He just let Dozier do his thing on defense.

Ibang klase rin talaga si Abueva. Game changer. A good showing in the first 2 games of the Finals and he'll win BPC. He could really contend for the MVP now.

I don't really care sino makalaban ng Alaska sa Finals. If they play just as hard a they did in this series, they'll go all the way.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: SiCkBoY on May 11, 2013 at 10:24 PM
Di naman halos napapalitan ang nucleus ng SanMig Coffee ah. Ang active sa trades at collection ng superstars with no chemistry eh Petron.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on May 11, 2013 at 10:33 PM
Di naman halos napapalitan ang nucleus ng SanMig Coffee ah. Ang active sa trades at collection ng superstars with no chemistry eh Petron.

By SMC, I meant the San Miguel Corporation not the San Mig Coffee team.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: omypet on May 12, 2013 at 08:04 AM
BGK sana manalo mamya.. wow vs Alaska, grabe ang bakbakan nyan..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 12, 2013 at 09:13 AM
langya talo SANMIG ko...tsk tsk tsk

no one was able to slash to the paint.....
POOR defense specially to abueva...did not even challenge those 3's
BOWLES was always outside the paint where in he can dominate inside...

too bad.....
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on May 12, 2013 at 09:32 AM
langya talo SANMIG ko...tsk tsk tsk

no one was able to slash to the paint.....
POOR defense specially to abueva...did not even challenge those 3's
BOWLES was always outside the paint where in he can dominate inside...

too bad.....

With the way the big men of Alaska defended Bowles whenever he tried to get inside the paint, and the way the referees allowed all the clinging, holding, knee-ing, hugging, squeezing, pushing, pulling on Bowles as long as he wasn't holding the ball, it's no wonder Bowles could only get the ball on the outside where he was less effective.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 12, 2013 at 10:02 AM
dozier!!!!

lason ung ung 3points - 1 sec left
tapos foul counted ..nipis ng contact ni baroka haha....

after this hindi na nakarecover ung san mig
parang ung last game lang..paglamang na alaska sa 4th q..hindi na maka ahon huhuhu
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on May 12, 2013 at 11:36 AM
Di naman halos napapalitan ang nucleus ng SanMig Coffee ah. Ang active sa trades at collection ng superstars with no chemistry eh Petron.

Beg to differ bro ...... SMC/BMEG is not as active as PETRON or BGK in the star-collecting scene - but they have more than their fair share of lopsides sale este trades (courtesy of SMCorp lapdog Bert Lina of course).

The only reason that they're not as active, is because of Tim Cone ....... the man knows how to build team chemistry and balance; but he's not complaining about the player-buying either.  ;D

** Devance - Had asked to be traded from ALASKA, despite receiving max money & was running fourth in the MVP race. He was promptly traded to AIR21 who "mysteriously" trades him to BMEG a few weeks later. 

** Pingris - Twice a member of AIR21/FEDEX and twice was traded to an SMCorp team.

** Barroca - The draft pick used on him belonged to AIR21 ...... a behind-the-scenes discussion with Comm. Cheato Salud and voila, the draft pick suddenly became BMEG's.

Sidenote: Then incoming SHOPINAS coach Franz Pumaren wanted to draft Barroca badly ...... but was very surprised when their pick was "transferred" to BMEG the very last minute prior to the rookie draft.

Franz Pumaren got waylaid by the very same benefactors that he benefited from in the collegiate level ..... ironic yes?  ;)


** Urbiztondo - He was the lead PG for AIR21 two years ago ..... despite this, Urbiztondo was mysteriously relegated to the reserved list then was promptly signed by BMEG.

It was the very first time in PBA history that a team's lead PG was relegated to the reserved list.

When this happened, some other PBA teams howled in protest ...... among them was then ALASKA coach Tim Cone.  ;D

Sidenote: Tim Cone won a championship with Urbiztondo playing a big role for SMC ...... a few conferences later, he trades Urbiztondo back to AIR21 in exchange for AIR21's 2013-2014 1st round draft pick ...... got someone for nothing, then trades him back for a high draft pick - unethical yes?  ;)

Tim Cone howls in protest when he was with ALASKA ..... then makes this unethical trade when he's with SMC - hypocrisy yes?  ;)


** Mallari - The draft pick used on him belonged to AIR21 .... which was traded away to PETRON of course.

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 12, 2013 at 11:39 AM
want them to give mallari  more minutes than barroca..

ewan ko ba..hindi lang talaga ako bilib kay barroca...
sa GF nya bilib ako
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: retro12195 on May 12, 2013 at 12:13 PM
want them to give mallari  more minutes than barroca..

ewan ko ba..hindi lang talaga ako bilib kay barroca...
sa GF nya bilib ako
ganda ng gf nya TISAY :o
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on May 12, 2013 at 12:42 PM
want them to give mallari  more minutes than barroca..

ewan ko ba..hindi lang talaga ako bilib kay barroca...
sa GF nya bilib ako

Asawa na actually. Barroca did really well, in my opinion. His defense on Casio was great the entire series. Hirap makapag-orchestrate si Casio. Mallari is too offensive minded. Walang depensa. Kahapon, iniiwan lang siya ni Casio.

Barroca was the most consistent local for SanMig in that series. Kung wala si Barroca, malamang na-sweep yung SanMig.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: retro12195 on May 12, 2013 at 12:49 PM
grabe sold out na pala ang ticket   http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/araneta-pba-expecting-record-game-five-crowd-as-tickets-nearly-sold-out-v02
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 12, 2013 at 01:23 PM
Asawa na actually. Barroca did really well, in my opinion. His defense on Casio was great the entire series. Hirap makapag-orchestrate si Casio. Mallari is too offensive minded. Walang depensa. Kahapon, iniiwan lang siya ni Casio.

Barroca was the most consistent local for SanMig in that series. Kung wala si Barroca, malamang na-sweep yung SanMig.

i was just not impressed with hime eversince kahit sa gilas days...

hinahanap ko lang siguro ung consistency ng outside shot and 3point shot for a PG....
although yesterday inaasar ako ng byenan ko ...o ok naman si barroca nakaka 3points...
gusto ko sana lokohin eh...kaya lang baka maoofend kasi tatay un ng wife ko haha...

eto sana banat ko...

tay mas ok pa GF nya - LOL
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: vinci on May 12, 2013 at 07:30 PM
panget laro ng tnt! yung import ayaw mamasa. sana ginebra na to.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 12, 2013 at 07:40 PM
panget laro ng tnt! yung import ayaw mamasa. sana ginebra na to.
nakakashoot na sir vince hehe..sobrang physical ng ginebra tsk tsk tsk...
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: the_w0rks on May 12, 2013 at 07:57 PM
ejected na to so macklin...


****

LMFAO! regular foul!?!?! :o
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: vinci on May 12, 2013 at 07:58 PM
ano score mga friends?? na steal remote sakin tsk
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 12, 2013 at 07:59 PM
Luto talaga..hindi pa na eject nank nangput@
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 12, 2013 at 08:00 PM
Grabe na to...kanina double technical sya tumulak kay mitchell ..tapos ung mukha ni aban sniway..wrf comeon pba
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 12, 2013 at 08:01 PM
Grabeng mga foul yan...
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: vinci on May 12, 2013 at 08:04 PM
sobrang spoiled yata yang si macklin
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: the_w0rks on May 12, 2013 at 08:05 PM
hehe

mas maganda naman kasi Alaska vs Ginebra sa finals. The Beast vs Ginebra!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 12, 2013 at 08:10 PM
sobrang spoiled yata yang si macklin
no comment..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on May 12, 2013 at 08:14 PM
Effin' refs spoiling games once again ........ EXTREMELY CLEAR flagrant foul on Macklin, for hitting Aban on the neck - yet was only called for a regular foul ?!

Review the tapes ...... the refs might have glanced at Comm. Cheato Salud before making the decision.  ;)

The look on Norman Black's face was priceless.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 12, 2013 at 08:16 PM
Effin' refs spoiling games once again ........ EXTREMELY CLEAR flagrant foul on Macklin, for hitting Aban on the neck - yet was only called for a regular foul ?!

Review the tapes ...... the refs might have glanced at Comm. Cheato Salud before making the decision.  ;)

The look on Norman Black's face was priceless.
wala daw smc sa  finals eh nyahaha
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: vinci on May 12, 2013 at 08:22 PM
kung ganyanang din mas masarap I cheer ang alaska lalo sa finals.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on May 12, 2013 at 08:28 PM
Some very influential people can't accept the fact that not even one of 3-ultra-loaded, salary-cap exceeding, player-hoarding teams can reach even the PBA Finals this season ..... wink-wink na lang agad sa mga refs.  ;)

I'm rooting for a BGK-ALASKA Finals, but the refs should have called a flagrant-foul on Macklin and threw him out the game (2nd tech).


Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 12, 2013 at 08:29 PM
kung ganyanang din mas masarap I cheer ang alaska lalo sa finals.
  haha..sibak ang tnt
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 12, 2013 at 08:33 PM
Some very influential people can't accept the fact that not even one of 3-ultra-loaded, salary-cap exceeding, player-hoarding teams can reach even the PBA Finals this season ..... wink-wink na lang agad sa mga refs.  ;)

I'm rooting for a BGK-ALASKA Finals, but the refs should have called a flagrant-foul on Macklin and threw him out the game (2nd tech).



ginagawa ata akong tanga ng ref nor ng pba..hindi nan ako bitter but i played bball and seeing the series like this...flagrant foul was not called? Hahaha...kakatawa ..for sure that call will be questioned
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 12, 2013 at 08:48 PM
Congrats ginebra and ref and mr. Salud haha..saket ng tenga ko sa asawa kong magcheer sa ginebra nya... Tsk tsk tsk...spoiled calls
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 12, 2013 at 08:54 PM
ginagawa ata akong tanga ng ref nor ng pba..hindi nan ako bitter but i played bball and seeing the series like this...flagrant foul was not called? Hahaha...kakatawa ..for sure that call will be questioned

Kasi pag pumasok ang ginebra mas madami manonood. hehe

Congrats ginebra and ref and mr. Salud haha..saket ng tenga ko sa asawa kong magcheer sa ginebra nya... Tsk tsk tsk...spoiled calls

wahaha wala ka pala kay esmi..  >:D >:D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 12, 2013 at 09:00 PM
Kasi pag pumasok ang ginebra mas madami manonood. hehe

wahaha wala ka pala kay esmi..  >:D >:D
langya asar talo pa ako dito sa bahay...  Daming nanood dami kita haha..all i was asking was a fair call..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on May 12, 2013 at 09:01 PM
Kasi pag pumasok ang ginebra mas madami manonood. hehe

kailangan kumita ;) kailangang ibalik ang interest ng mga fans na manood ng live.

masyadong mabait si black! minsan ko lang nakitang nagalit ng todo sa mga di patas na tawag ng referee. yan yung sinigawan niya yung referee ng "referee bobo."
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 12, 2013 at 09:04 PM
langya asar talo pa ako dito sa bahay...  Daming nanood dami kita haha..all i was asking was a fair call..

Wahaha wawa bata..  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 12, 2013 at 09:06 PM
kailangan kumita ;) kailangang ibalik ang interest ng mga fans na manood ng live.

masyadong mabait si black! minsan ko lang nakitang nagalit ng todo sa mga di patas na tawag ng referee. yan yung sinigawan niya yung referee ng "referee bobo."
nakakawalang interest ngang manood dahil sa unfair calls ...ngayon nalang ulit ako nanood dahil before kawalang gana dahil sa smc blah blah blah
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on May 12, 2013 at 09:06 PM
If it was Yeng Guiao on the receiving end of the refs blatant calls tonight, he would have shouted his classic line when facing SMCorp teams and their army of refs ........ "MGA SINDIKATO !!!"

 ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 12, 2013 at 09:08 PM
If it was Yeng Guiao on the receiving end of the refs blatant calls tonight, he would have shouted his classic line when facing SMCorp teams and their army of refs ........ "MGA SINDIKATO !!!"

 ;D
more money more chances of winning
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 12, 2013 at 09:09 PM
nakakawalang interest ngang manood dahil sa unfair calls ...ngayon nalang ulit ako nanood dahil before kawalang gana dahil sa smc blah blah blah

Eh SMC naman ung nag laro ayun nakita mo ang unfair na calls. Kala ko nga itatawag ang tama kanina tapos standard foul lang. amf..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on May 12, 2013 at 09:20 PM
So it's now an ALASKA-BGK Finals series.

Like I said, this one will be epic ..... because it has a resurgent BGK, it has a resurgent ALASKA, it has tons of storylines both on the court and the sidelines ...... plus it has the BEAST.

The only possible downside - it's just a Best-of-5 series ..... WTF Comm. Cheato Salud ?

This upcoming Finals will be epic ...... my only hope is that it's called fair by the refs (always hard to expect this when an SMCorp team plays).

========================================================================

If I were Trillo, I would borrow a page out of Yeng Guiao's tactics ...... I'd call a press-conference and plead for fair officiating even before Game 1 is played.

Yeng Guiao did this before with RED BULL, prior to the 2001 Finals series against SMB.

Lo and behold, that series was called straight and fair ...... then SMB star Danny Seigle was surprised that the ticky-tacky fouls that he always enjoyed weren't being called anymore.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 12, 2013 at 09:40 PM
I'm a Ginebra fan but I agree that it should be a flagrant foul on Macklin taking down Aban.
But lets not take away the credit to Ginebra especially sa locals. They really played well tonight. Nung 3rd quarter nga ang aga napenalty ng Ginebra... Masyado lang nag rely ang TnT sa import nila, forcing his shots in the 4th. Dapat ginamit din nilang option si Castro... Dami ding maling calls when TnT's got the ball like yung foul kay Helterbrand against the 3-point shooting Fonacier nung patapos na ang 4th Q.

***Well hindi pa katapusan ito ng pangarap ng Gin Kings***

^-^
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 12, 2013 at 09:45 PM
I'm a Ginebra fan but I agree that it should be a flagrant foul on Macklin taking down Aban.
But lets not take away the credit to Ginebra especially sa locals. They really played well tonight. Nung 3rd quarter nga ang aga napenalty ng Ginebra... Masyado lang nag rely ang TnT sa import nila, forcing his shots in the 4th. Dapat ginamit din nilang option si Castro... Dami ding maling calls when TnT's got the ball like yung foul kay Helterbrand against the 3-point shooting Fonacier nung patapos na ang 4th Q.

***Well hindi pa katapusan ito ng pangarap ng Gin Kings***

^-^

Sani nga kita kits sa finals....

Sabi nga kitakits sa finals.... Now
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: JayRob on May 12, 2013 at 10:22 PM
Ginebra rocks! Macklin did not intentionally bring down abad, it was a battle of position. Abad was pushing macklin with his forearm and macklin simply put aban out of the way. Just so happened the mack's hands were on aban's face but ref's called it fairly as it was not intentional. Did you all know the mack was hit numerous times by ranidel and ryan reyes in game 4? Was not seen on camera but mack was hit at the groin and was punch at the stomach twice and yet he did not retaliate then.  Game 5 was a blast, almost like championships!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 12, 2013 at 10:38 PM
Elms may katapat ka na sa pagiging fanboy hahaha....
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 12, 2013 at 10:40 PM
I'm a Ginebra fan but I agree that it should be a flagrant foul on Macklin taking down Aban.
But lets not take away the credit to Ginebra especially sa locals. They really played well tonight. Nung 3rd quarter nga ang aga napenalty ng Ginebra... Masyado lang nag rely ang TnT sa import nila, forcing his shots in the 4th. Dapat ginamit din nilang option si Castro... Dami ding maling calls when TnT's got the ball like yung foul kay Helterbrand against the 3-point shooting Fonacier nung patapos na ang 4th Q.

***Well hindi pa katapusan ito ng pangarap ng Gin Kings***

^-^
sis ung foul kay fonacier late on the game pamigay nalang un..kase malabo na mahabol for the sake that the ff1 was not given to bgk import ...ipupusta ko ht system ko kapag hindi na question yan ff1 kay mcklin
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on May 12, 2013 at 10:53 PM
Ginebra rocks! Macklin did not intentionally bring down abad, it was a battle of position. Abad was pushing macklin with his forearm and macklin simply put aban out of the way. Just so happened the mack's hands were on aban's face but ref's called it fairly as it was not intentional. Did you all know the mack was hit numerous times by ranidel and ryan reyes in game 4? Was not seen on camera but mack was hit at the groin and was punch at the stomach twice and yet he did not retaliate then.  Game 5 was a blast, almost like championships!


Hehe, pre naman ..... not intentional? Macklin was angrily glaring at Aban after the hit on his neck for chrissakes.  ;D

It was clear as day that it was intentional ...... very likely retaliatory (from past hits), but still intentional and flagrant.

Even Macklin's reaction afterwards was one of "Uh-oh, I might have cost us this game with that flare-up" ..... the look on BGK's coaching staff was one of detest/dread rather than complaining.

You'll be even hard-pressed to find one BGK fan in the other basketball forums not admitting that it was a flagrant foul ....... everyone there admits that it was flagrant and everyone blames Macklin for being hot-headed in this series.

===========================================================================

Barring the refs calls, BGK's entire crew showed the fight and resolve that was lacking from the past few seasons ...... tons of credit to Alfrancis Chua as well.

On to the Finals ...... what a great series it promises to be.

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: JayRob on May 12, 2013 at 10:54 PM
Looks worse than it actually is. Hands on face does not mean flagrant foul. What if the hands were on aban's shoulders, I bet fans of tnt would not have reacted the way they did. It was unintentional and was a battle of position. Refs did not call flagrant also due to mack's nature of not being a dirty player. I guess even now that refs did not call flagrant on ryan reyes when he punched mack on the stomach twice in game 4.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 12, 2013 at 10:59 PM
Hahaha...thats the spirit of being a fan...
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: JayRob on May 12, 2013 at 11:00 PM
I pity tnt as what killed them is their import. Typical ball hogger. Always complaining of non calls even if it was a forced shot and good honest defense. He's a one man team which won't win games as crucial as game 5.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 12, 2013 at 11:01 PM
sis ung foul kay fonacier late on the game pamigay nalang un..kase malabo na mahabol for the sake that the ff1 was not given to bgk import ...ipupusta ko ht system ko kapag hindi na question yan ff1 kay mcklin

Hindi sis... that could still change the complexion of the game...
Yup I'm sure na may mali dun sa tawag kay Macklin pero sa nilaro ni Tenorio, Helterbrand at Baracael hindi sana maging basis yung non-FF1 call kay Macklin sa naging outcome... ;)
Ginebra fought hard sa series na yan...

Fanboi ako ng Ginebra sis since grade school nung panahon pa nila Jawo, Loyzaga, Ampalayo, Joe Ward, Gonzalgo, Cuenco, etc... Hehehe ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on May 12, 2013 at 11:03 PM
Looks worse than it actually is. Hands on face does not mean flagrant foul. What if the hands were on aban's shoulders, I bet fans of tnt would not have reacted the way they did. It was unintentional and was a battle of position. Refs did not call flagrant also due to mack's nature of not being a dirty player. I guess even now that refs did not call flagrant on ryan reyes when he punched mack on the stomach twice in game 4.


If it was anything like the Jawo "phantom punch" on Jolas' after Jolas undercut Jawo, then it would have been shown on replays. But no video has been shown to show that Reyes did punch Macklin on the stomach twice. It was only Chua who claimed that Macklin was punched.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 12, 2013 at 11:13 PM
Hindi sis... that could still change the complexion of the game...
Yup I'm sure na may mali dun sa tawag kay Macklin pero sa nilaro ni Tenorio, Helterbrand at Baracael hindi sana maging basis yung non-FF1 call kay Macklin sa naging outcome... ;)
Ginebra fought hard sa series na yan...

Fanboi ako ng Ginebra sis since grade school nung panahon pa nila Jawo, Loyzaga, Ampalayo, Joe Ward, Gonzalgo, Cuenco, etc... Hehehe ;D
definitely sis..tenorio played well and helterbrand...  Although there confidence might not be the same if mcklin was thrown out...baka lang naiba ung game..congrats sa ginebra kahit ireplay naten they won...
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: JayRob on May 12, 2013 at 11:24 PM
If tnt stuck with jordan, mack would not have had a feast inside, same with tenorio who slashed to the paint. I guess wrong move on tnt's part. With the new import, locals were not involed much as often as they should have been. I can just imagine what the next conference would be for tnt if they will stick with their import.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: oweidah on May 13, 2013 at 01:00 AM

bitter luck next time
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on May 13, 2013 at 03:57 PM
Sadly i lost a chance at the best tasting crispy pata from norzagaray BGK proved me wrong,

Congratulations BGK at sa mga fans nila

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on May 13, 2013 at 04:07 PM
Sadly i lost a chance at the best tasting crispy pata from norzagaray BGK proved me wrong,

Congratulations BGK at sa mga fans nila


Bro, is this the same crispy pata which was featured on TV (GMA7?) some years back ?

If it's the same one, a friend of mine raves about it all the time ...... he makes the trip all the way from Sto. Tomas, Batangas just to buy a couple of patas.  ;)

=========================================================================

On-topic, many great storylines surrounding the Finals series.

Trillo-Chua, who'll win their 1st 'chip, LA/Baracael vs. their old team, Hatfield facing off against a younger & meaner version of himself, Caguioa's possible comeback, the Beast's impending BPC win & potential coming-out party as a superstar, etc.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on May 13, 2013 at 04:16 PM
Bro, is this the same crispy pata which was featured on TV (GMA7?) some years back ?

If it's the same one, a friend of mine raves about it all the time ...... he makes the trip all the way from Sto. Tomas, Batangas just to buy a couple of patas.  ;)

=========================================================================

On-topic, many great storylines surrounding the Finals series.

Trillo-Chua, who'll win their 1st 'chip, LA/Baracael vs. their old team, Hatfield facing off against a younger & meaner version of himself, Caguioa's possible comeback, the Beast's impending BPC win & potential coming-out party as a superstar, etc.

If the 1st Conference voting is any indication, I think Tenorio's going to win it. Abueva's going to get killed in media and player votes. But I have no problems with that. Tenorio deserves it as well.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on May 13, 2013 at 04:30 PM
If the 1st Conference voting is any indication, I think Tenorio's going to win it. Abueva's going to get killed in media and player votes. But I have no problems with that. Tenorio deserves it as well.

Yup, it's very clear that it's an Abueva-Tenorio 2-way race for BPC.

However, stats-wise Abueva has just been better, cumulatively ..... we've seen more than a few games wherein Tenorio can hardly make shots (he himself has admitted a few times, that his bum elbow is still bothering him) ...... the few times that Abueva scores low, he's still rebounding with ease. 

I completely agree about the huge possibility of Abueva being jobbed by the media & SMCorp bloc voters ....... but for some reason, I'm getting the feeling that Abueva will change a few biased hearts out there - he's infected the watching public in way that hasn't been seen in a long while.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: JayRob on May 13, 2013 at 05:30 PM
What about best import - Macklin or Dozier???
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on May 13, 2013 at 06:17 PM
What about best import - Macklin or Dozier???


Though Macklin had the bigger impact (replacing an inept Hill) and is the "sexier" media choice because of the dunks, the flash and him being from BGK ..... I'd still favor Dozier for BI.

Let's hope that no more funny business happens during the BI tallying ...... a few years ago, an ALASKA import lost the BI award, all because of an "error" made by a known SMCorp media ally during the voting process.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: JayRob on May 13, 2013 at 06:33 PM
Tickets are hard to come by, darn it! Anybody selling lower box tickets?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on May 13, 2013 at 06:51 PM
What about best import - Macklin or Dozier???

I'd go for Dozier as well because of his impact in every game he's played for Alaska. You always feel his presence. Macklin disappeared in some games especially during their losses. Dozier may not have been as flashy but he's been the more effective and efficient import.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 13, 2013 at 09:27 PM
Sinung nagbebenta ng ticket dyan? Want ko manood sa araneta..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on May 14, 2013 at 02:32 AM
Sadly i lost a chance at the best tasting crispy pata from norzagaray BGK proved me wrong,

Congratulations BGK at sa mga fans nila



hehe....

If the 1st Conference voting is any indication, I think Tenorio's going to win it. Abueva's going to get killed in media and player votes. But I have no problems with that. Tenorio deserves it as well.

whoever between the two deserves to win it. but i have to agree that Abueva might lose it due to media and player votes. but if they throw their biases against Abueva, i really think he should win it. i am a ginebra fan but, for me, Abueva should have the upper hand.

What about best import - Macklin or Dozier???

again, being a ginebra fan, i would want Macklin to win it. But i think Dozier deserves the citation. he was the import from day 1 and has been consistent all through out. on the other hand, the voters might say that Macklin brought a "dead" team to the finals, while Alaska was on top of the standings the whole season.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: VenoM_Unleashed on May 14, 2013 at 10:24 AM
Barangay Ginebra or Alaska Aces?

Kampihan na!  :)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 14, 2013 at 10:34 AM
lahat ng family ko BGK haha...
hindi din ako ALASKA...
magcheer ako for both to have a good game
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: VenoM_Unleashed on May 14, 2013 at 10:39 AM
Kung sa players ng TNT napikon si Macklin, paano pa kaya kay Abueva?  ;D 'Yun ang bagong Ronald Tubid Version 2.0.  ;D

Ginebra Na!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on May 14, 2013 at 10:56 AM
Wow, alaska-gsm, this is the match up that could bring pba back to its glory.. So who's the underdog? :)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on May 14, 2013 at 12:22 PM
Kung sa players ng TNT napikon si Macklin, paano pa kaya kay Abueva?  ;D 'Yun ang bagong Ronald Tubid Version 2.0.  ;D

Ginebra Na!

That's actually one funny sidenote on this series ....... BGK fans have absolutely no right to complain if ever Abueva sells his flops to the refs.

For a long time, the BGK crowd has enjoyed and laughed, at the countless flops that the God of Flops himself, Ronald Tubid, has sold.

Both Abueva and Tubid knows how to sell 'em well ...... at least with Abueva, the flops do come with some meaningful contact - Tubid on the other hand.  ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp4k0OjDY04
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: the_w0rks on May 14, 2013 at 01:01 PM
Gi-neb-ra! Ginuman na to. hahaha

that's what the diehard lasengo would say!

Magandang asaran 'to. Abueva vs Ginebra fans yan. Kantsawan to the max
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Chain on May 14, 2013 at 01:29 PM
Alaska ako!Pustahan na!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on May 15, 2013 at 11:26 AM
Game 1 today.....great match-up. a team that likes to run against a team that employs suffocating defense. run and gun versus slow down.

will Alaska also use a brass band to at least minimize the crowd?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: gunslinger on May 15, 2013 at 01:27 PM
Magkano na tickets? Gusto namin manood pero we are not sure where to source out considering na finals siya and I'm sure madaming scalpers.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on May 15, 2013 at 01:53 PM
(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z468/sniper930/finalstix_zps3ec48ba3.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/sniper930/media/finalstix_zps3ec48ba3.jpg.html)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: gunslinger on May 15, 2013 at 02:07 PM
Thanks. Sana may abutan pa kami. :)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Peeves on May 15, 2013 at 03:04 PM
Ginebra! Ginebra! Ginebra!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on May 15, 2013 at 04:47 PM
For those who can't watch at Araneta, the game will be live on TV5 and not on AKTV/IBC13.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: tifosi_pao on May 15, 2013 at 05:04 PM
ginebra!

bold prediction: 1st qtr pa lang nasapak/nasiko na itong si abueva ni v-mack haha :D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: painted_black on May 15, 2013 at 05:43 PM
Magandang series ito kahit Best of 5 lang.
Title: Re: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: the_w0rks on May 15, 2013 at 06:00 PM
For those who can't watch at Araneta, the game will be live on TV5 and not on AKTV/IBC13.

Aaah. What time ba to?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on May 15, 2013 at 06:10 PM
Aaah. What time ba to?

7:30PM
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: the_w0rks on May 15, 2013 at 08:02 PM
LAMOG ANG BARANGAY!!! hahahaha
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on May 15, 2013 at 08:16 PM
6 points in 1st qtr is not just about alaska's d.. Struggling talaga ginebra, even the open shots di pumapasok..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 15, 2013 at 09:34 PM
ambalita ?
walang signal ang tv5 samen ahahah...
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on May 15, 2013 at 09:48 PM
^ 3 minutes to go, parang election lang.. Landslide.. Alaska leading by 14..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on May 15, 2013 at 09:49 PM
Q4 2min left ...... BGK on a run of sorts, but ALASKA still up by 13.

The amount of bumps & knocks that Abueva takes is just mind-boggling ......and he just smiles and smirks quietly .....like I said, when this guy flops, there's at least considerable contact.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 15, 2013 at 09:51 PM
nice....nakabawi ang TNT ko hahaha...
just kidding aside...

hoping for a nice game...nood ako this sunday sa araneta sana may tickets pa....

bawi nalang ginebra.. balita ko naglaro daw caguiao? tsk tsk tsk tsk
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on May 15, 2013 at 10:07 PM
it was a a combination of bad things for Ginebra. shots not falling in, whether from the outside and, worse, even from the inside....they took too many outside shots, even if they were not falling in. On the other hand, Alaska had a head start. They were making shots from everywhere and seems to have been doing everything right......the biggest part, however, was Alaska's defense. Ginebra took too many shots from the outside because they had not other option. they could hardly penetrate the lanes. It was a very great game by Alaska.

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 15, 2013 at 10:10 PM
it was a a combination of bad things for Ginebra. shots not falling in, whether from the outside and, worse, even from the inside....they took too many outside shots, even if they were not falling in. On the other hand, Alaska had a head start. They were making shots from everywhere and seems to have been doing everything right......the biggest part, however, was Alaska's defense. Ginebra took too many shots from the outside because they had not other option. they could hardly penetrate the lanes. It was a very great game by Alaska.



did you watch it live po?
ask ko lang sana kung live e kung pumila po kayo to biy tickets....
hesitant po kasi ako manood this sunday kung sold out na
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on May 15, 2013 at 10:13 PM
no, sir. (very lousy) live stream lang.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 15, 2013 at 10:21 PM
no, sir. (very lousy) live stream lang.
i see....
i tried the live streaming but it did not work ok on my end..

sana may tickets pa this sunday...
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 15, 2013 at 10:22 PM
Very very good game by Alaska. Bilib ako sa coaching ability ni Trillo...
Buti nanalo kami sa Game 1 Championship game sa office. Atleast di gano masama loob, hehehe...

Brader Derick if you want to watch sa Sunday dapat bukas palang try mo na bumili sa Araneta or check ticketnet online, or tawag ka muna 9115555 kung may tickets pa... ;)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on May 15, 2013 at 10:37 PM
Q4 2min left ...... BGK on a run of sorts, but ALASKA still up by 13.

The amount of bumps & knocks that Abueva takes is just mind-boggling ......and he just smiles and smirks quietly .....like I said, when this guy flops, there's at least considerable contact.


and to think na some people brand him as ugaling iskwater or larong iskwater, seems like everyone wants to give cheap shots at abueva, yung kay tenorio simpleng banat, sana lang eh mag ingat din si abueva sayang ang galing nya kung matsambahan ng matinding injury.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 15, 2013 at 10:41 PM
Very very good game by Alaska. Bilib ako sa coaching ability ni Trillo...
Buti nanalo kami sa Game 1 Championship game sa office. Atleast di gano masama loob, hehehe...

Brader Derick if you want to watch sa Sunday dapat bukas palang try mo na bumili sa Araneta or check ticketnet online, or tawag ka muna 9115555 kung may tickets pa... ;)

wala daw ticketnet online..nagonline ako meron nakalagay last time booth / outlet only

try ko tumawag thanks sis
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on May 15, 2013 at 10:44 PM
it was a a combination of bad things for Ginebra. shots not falling in, whether from the outside and, worse, even from the inside....they took too many outside shots, even if they were not falling in. On the other hand, Alaska had a head start. They were making shots from everywhere and seems to have been doing everything right......the biggest part, however, was Alaska's defense. Ginebra took too many shots from the outside because they had not other option. they could hardly penetrate the lanes. It was a very great game by Alaska.



was able to see the 3rd and 4th qtr, seems like Macklin is struggling as oppose to Dozier who seems to be at ease, no fancy, moves no playing with the crowds simpleng basketball lang. Best of five lang pala so laking edge ng manalo sa game 1.

Tenorio is really something grabe mag lusot lusot ng bola, muntik na nyang idikit ng husto ang lamang mag isa
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 15, 2013 at 10:48 PM
wala daw ticketnet online..nagonline ako meron nakalagay last time booth / outlet only

try ko tumawag thanks sis

Ok sis...
Pagmanonood ka pustahan tayo...
Hehehe ;D
Meron kasi ibang tao lakas ng loob makipagpustahan, gagayahin ko lang ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on May 15, 2013 at 10:51 PM
and to think na some people brand him as ugaling iskwater or larong iskwater, seems like everyone wants to give cheap shots at abueva, yung kay tenorio simpleng banat, sana lang eh mag ingat din si abueva sayang ang galing nya kung matsambahan ng matinding injury.

perhaps he earned the "ugaling iskwater" tag due to his lack of finesse. sobra kasi ang angas nya eh. considering that he is just a rookie. kung baga eh bagong salta pa lang sya, akala mo beterano na kung umasta. but honestly, nakakaawa din sya kasi nga he gets hit a lot. but everytime he gets hit, ngingisi pa na parang nang-iinis. one more reason siguro kung bakit lalong nanggigigil ung mga tumitira sa kanya. "ah....wala lang pala ha...mamaya ulit!". somehow, i knew he'll get it from Mamaril.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on May 15, 2013 at 10:59 PM
perhaps he earned the "ugaling iskwater" tag due to his lack of finesse. sobra kasi ang angas nya eh. considering that he is just a rookie. kung baga eh bagong salta pa lang sya, akala mo beterano na kung umasta. but honestly, nakakaawa din sya kasi nga he gets hit a lot. but everytime he gets hit, ngingisi pa na parang nang-iinis. one more reason siguro kung bakit lalong nanggigigil ung mga tumitira sa kanya. "ah....wala lang pala ha...mamaya ulit!". somehow, i knew he'll get it from Mamaril.

ni review yung mga bagsak nya, yung kay Mamaril wala namang extra motion at di naman diniin yung kamay nya, parang mas matindi pa yung kay Tenorio.

During the time ni Samboy Lim parang wala ng bukas yun mag laro pero di naman sya tinitira palagi ng kalaban yet di nag tagal sa laro at di nakakabuo ng season, etong si Abueva talagang gustong saktan ng kalaban, tatagal kaya sya or makaktapos kaya ng season kung ganyan palagi? parang ngayon lang ako nakakita ng player na palaging gustong saktan ng kalaban?

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on May 15, 2013 at 11:07 PM
ni review yung mga bagsak nya, yung kay Mamaril wala namang extra motion at di naman diniin yung kamay nya, parang mas matindi pa yung kay Tenorio.

During the time ni Samboy Lim parang wala ng bukas yun mag laro pero di naman sya tinitira palagi ng kalaban yet di nag tagal sa laro at di nakakabuo ng season, etong si Abueva talagang gustong saktan ng kalaban, tatagal kaya sya or makaktapos kaya ng season kung ganyan palagi? parang ngayon lang ako nakakita ng player na palaging gustong saktan ng kalaban?



which arm did you look at? ung lower arm ni mamaril ung may motion, ung blocking hand, wala. ung kay tenorio, oo nga, mas matindi, pero simple bira lang. parang hindi sinasadya...parang nagka-banggaan lang sila.

si samboy naman kasi, mabait. walang angas, walang yabang. hindi sya dumidila pag nakaka-shoot. wala syang slit of the throat gesture after making a shot over his defender...or flexing his muscles. between a beast and a lamb, talagang mas titirahin ang isang beast.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 15, 2013 at 11:12 PM
Ok sis...
Pagmanonood ka pustahan tayo...
Hehehe ;D
Meron kasi ibang tao lakas ng loob makipagpustahan, gagayahin ko lang ;D

done deal...
pusta naten svs sb12 nsd.....
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on May 15, 2013 at 11:22 PM
Meron kasi ibang tao lakas ng loob makipagpustahan, gagayahin ko lang ;D

referring to?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 15, 2013 at 11:28 PM
referring to?

My officemates. Even our Game awhile ago became a betting game... Why?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 15, 2013 at 11:29 PM
done deal...
pusta naten svs sb12 nsd.....

Alright brader. Game! Hehehe.
Dapat may blood compact para hindi pusta sa tubig ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on May 15, 2013 at 11:43 PM
just asking
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on May 16, 2013 at 12:06 AM
^ bro louie, kahit isang season ka pa makipagpustahan, ubos na kalaban mo ikaw madami pa itataya, hehe..

Re abueva, I think huhupa din yan, siguro after this conference or season mawawala na rin un.. Masasanay din sila, di naman sya nananakit unlike arana..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 16, 2013 at 12:38 AM
^ bro louie, kahit isang season ka pa makipagpustahan, ubos na kalaban mo ikaw madami pa itataya, hehe..

Re abueva, I think huhupa din yan, siguro after this conference or season mawawala na rin un.. Masasanay din sila, di naman sya nananakit unlike arana...

Hehehe. Loko ka bro Allan.... madami ako maitataya kung lagi nananalo sa pusta ^-^.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on May 16, 2013 at 01:02 AM
There's no room for error for Ginebra when playing against Alaska. Alaska is too composed and disciplined as a team. They know what to do and how to do it. They're very committed. Yun yung difference kanina eh. Alaska was committed to do the right things and make the right decisions.

I enjoy watching their defense more than their offense. They always talk to each other and they have each other's back. Dozier just hangs around in the middle waiting to help on Macklin or a penetration. On an undisciplined team, Dozier's guy would always be left open. But with Alaska, someone always has an eye on Dozier's guy. You could see Hontiveros, Abueva or Dela Cruz staying in between their guys and Dozier's, ready to rotate. They're very committed to switching on defense. Pag may naiwan sa mga down screens and back pick, switch kaagad. It doesn't matter kung magkaroon ng mismatch. Dapat may bantay talaga lahat.

Ginebra needs dump the ball to Macklin in Game 2. Raymundo or any other power forward of Ginebra shouldn't crowd Macklin at the post. Macklin just took 9 shots tonight and most of them are from putbacks. Sariling sikap and almost none from set plays. Sure he was defended well but Ginebra never really made an effort to give him the ball. And Raymundo has to stop taking Dozier one on one at the post. There's just no way he'll beat Dozier there. He should draw him out to the perimeter and away from Macklin.

Tenorio needs to keep an eye on his defense as well. He took Casio for granted earlier. Iniiwan lang na open. He should watch how Barroca defended Casio in the semis. At the start of the game, Casio scored the first 5 points easily. On Alaska's 8 straight points to open the 3rd, Casio assisted on all of them. For me, Casio is the most important player for Alaska. It all starts with him.

And Chua has to relax. Ang bilis niya nagpanic kanina. Parang walang tiwala sa players niya. Pag nagkamali, labas agad.

And lastly, it's nice having a real analyst covering the game. Someone who's really watching the game and not just the stats or the highlight plays.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on May 16, 2013 at 07:00 AM
ALASKA's already excellent defense went up a few notches during Game 1 ...... the close-outs & rotating was fast ....... Macklin was doubled-well, since he doesn't know how to go to his left.

On the offensive side, everything just clicked for them as well ...... when its a 4-1 fastbreak situation and your PG (Jazul) pulls-up and makes a bankshot 3-pointer - you know things are going your way.

The good thing for BGK, they have nowhere to go up ...... can't play any worse than last night.

Macklin needs to get the ball at the right spot & outside hits are welcome.

===========================================================

Damm that MVP for non-inclusion of the player intros ...... TV5 is shoving all those TnT & sabunggero commercials down our throats.  ;D

Benjie Paras must never be given work as live commentator again ....... he's acceptable as a pre-game comic relief, but just annoying as a commentator.

Similar to Jolly Escobar, he sounds like he's high on weed.  ;D ...... he doesn't give analysis and just agrees with the lead guy. It's as if he's just waiting to get his punchlines in.


Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 16, 2013 at 08:39 AM
done deal...
pusta naten svs sb12 nsd.....

Sama ako sa pustahan niyo isang case na apple beer with pulutan na litson or your choice. Ano ba team niyong dalawa.. hahaha
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: the_w0rks on May 16, 2013 at 08:50 AM
sana pumusta din si coach Luigi. Pusta nya pinsan nyang si Claudine. haha kabowm.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: VenoM_Unleashed on May 16, 2013 at 11:23 AM
Mahina Alaska Aces, umabot lang ata sa 30 pts lamang nila, they have to do better than that, muntikan na sila mahabol ng Ginebra, kinapos lang.  ;D

Swerte sa bola Alaska, tapik lang ng tapik sa rebound tapos sa kakampi nila napupunta.

'Yung knock-downs ni Abueva na iskoran din, 8 knock-downs ang bilang ng commentator.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 16, 2013 at 12:40 PM
Sama ako sa pustahan niyo isang case na apple beer with pulutan na litson or your choice. Ano ba team niyong dalawa.. hahaha

alaska ako - gbk si louela and misis
sarap ng apple beer and lechon.......

1-0 na

okies saan ka ..tu
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: darth mond on May 16, 2013 at 02:08 PM
Kagabi lang ako nakonood ng live ulit. Commercial lang, nakakatulala pala yung mga EB Babes no.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 16, 2013 at 02:19 PM
alaska ako - gbk si louela and misis
sarap ng apple beer and lechon.......

1-0 na

okies saan ka ..tu

Siyempre alaska ako ayaw ko ang ginebra kahit na SMB ako dahil kay samboy lim. hehehe
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on May 17, 2013 at 03:57 PM
ginebra "must" win tonight. otherwise, they'll have to kiss the championship trophy goodbye. i don't think they can win three straight games against alaska considering the way the aces are playing both on the offensive and, especially, the defensive side.

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on May 17, 2013 at 04:39 PM
I expect this game to be a high scoring one, mainly because of freethrows.. Btw, pansin ko parang ang baba ng FT percentage ng PBA players, even the guards ang daming sala..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on May 17, 2013 at 08:31 PM
Two questions so far ......  ;)

How many clean shots to the head/neck area will Abueva take before a flagrant foul is called ?

How many clean shots to the head/neck area will Macklin give out before a flagrant foul is called ?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 17, 2013 at 09:45 PM
Sinu nanalo?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mikz023 on May 17, 2013 at 09:53 PM
Sinu nanalo?

Alaska
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Zenki on May 17, 2013 at 10:45 PM
Sinapak na ng buong Ginebra team si abueva.... dinilaan lang sila.. ;D game 3, coaching staff naman...
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on May 17, 2013 at 10:48 PM
I really don't get why up to now, marami pa ring player ang nagpapaapekto sa laro ni Abueva. It's pretty obvious by now that that's his game. He thrives in a physical game. Ginebra should just stick to their game plan. Pumanget takbo ng laro nila nung tinira ni Baracael si Abueva eh. Yung mga tama sa mga player ng Ginebra, incidental contact lang at part of the game. Yung mga tira ng mga taga-Ginebra sa mga player ng Alaska, sadya na eh. Si Abueva sinapak ni Baracael at binatukan ni Macklin, tumawa lang. Si Urbiztondo, nabangga ng hindi sinasadya, minura si Thoss. Ginebra should focus on the game. Pag bumagsak, tayo agad. Pabor na nga sa kanila mga tawag, ang dami pang reklamo.

And speaking of calls, grabe naman kagarapal yung mga referee. Hayaan niyo naman mga player ng Ginebra ang maghabol sa lamang.

Anyway, this series is once again proof of how good this Alaska team was built. A great mix of young guys and veterans. The energy of young guys like Abueva and Jazul, the smarts and composure of Casio, the experience and poise of veterans Baguio, Thoss, Hontiveros and Espinas plus the all-around play of Dozier. Every player na ipasok ni Trillo makes an impact in one way or another. Even Belasco made a big 3 kanina.

It ain't over until Alaska gets that 3rd win. Ginebra knows that and there's nothing scarier than a Ginebra team on a do or die game. Alaska need to wrap it up on Sunday.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ivannn on May 17, 2013 at 10:55 PM
do you guys think ginebra will pull off a surprise import replacement for game 3?

MC47 should really opt out of playing this finals, mismatch agad siya on the defensive end kasi hirap pa kumilos eh.

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on May 17, 2013 at 10:58 PM
Parang iba ung goal ng ginebra, gigising lng pag 3 minutes na lng.. Pansin ko parang daming travel na tinawagan..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on May 17, 2013 at 11:07 PM
One more thing, parang bitter si MVP. Dahil wala TNT sa finals, walang kwenta na yung coverage. Nung Game 1, di man lang pinalabas yung player intros. Wala ring post-game interviews. Last conference, meron naman.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 17, 2013 at 11:10 PM
Alaska
hihihi...makcheer pa kaya byenan ko at asawa ko lol
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on May 18, 2013 at 02:15 AM
what a masterful job by alaska.

even if ginebra wins game 3, i doubt if they can still snatch the title from alaska. ginebra was outplayed, no doubt about it. and the fact that macklin is ineffective is not doing them any help. however, and not to sound bitter or anything --- i think macklin is physically bothered. is it his knees? he is not as mobile as he was before the finals. no movement, no jump. i am not taking away alaska's defensive strategy on him, though. i just noticed his movement, or the lack thereof, in game 2. i was not able to hear the commentators. i'm sure they would have a discussion on that. it was a bit noisy in the background. good thing! i saw that quinito was part of the anchors. :P
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: VenoM_Unleashed on May 18, 2013 at 10:05 AM
Sino ba naman hindi mapipikon kay Abueva, 1st of the 2 foul throw pa lang, gumigiri na sa katabing rebounder, eh hindi pa naman kailangan mag rebound. Plus dami din nyang cheap shot, kaso 'yung retaliation lagi nakikita. Pati si Espinas nahawa na din, nag stretch ng muscle akala nya sya naka puntos, eh 'yung points galing sa nag follow-up ng miss nya, feeling nya sya 'yung naka score  ;D

I agree, Caguioa should not be playing until he is fully recovered, liability lang sya both offensively and defensively, sya yata 'yun bantay ni Hontiveros noong naka three consecutive 3 point shots eh.

'Yung import ng Ginebra, nagtataka ako, halos sa harap na nya bumabagsak 'yung bola eh hindi pa makuha, yun pala injured din.

Pero maganda talaga depensa ng Alaska kaya hirap din maka score Ginebra. Sa Alaska naman parang ang dali nila maka score.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on May 18, 2013 at 10:53 AM
Sino ba naman hindi mapipikon kay Abueva, 1st of the 2 foul throw pa lang, gumigiri na sa katabing rebounder, eh hindi pa naman kailangan mag rebound. Plus dami din nyang cheap shot, kaso 'yung retaliation lagi nakikita. Pati si Espinas nahawa na din, nag stretch ng muscle akala nya sya naka puntos, eh 'yung points galing sa nag follow-up ng miss nya, feeling nya sya 'yung naka score  ;D

I agree, Caguioa should not be playing until he is fully recovered, liability lang sya both offensively and defensively, sya yata 'yun bantay ni Hontiveros noong naka three consecutive 3 point shots eh.

'Yung import ng Ginebra, nagtataka ako, halos sa harap na nya bumabagsak 'yung bola eh hindi pa makuha, yun pala injured din.

Pero maganda talaga depensa ng Alaska kaya hirap din maka score Ginebra. Sa Alaska naman parang ang dali nila maka score.

Siya naman talaga nakascore dun. They actually replayed that shot at si Espinas talaga nakashoot.

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Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on May 18, 2013 at 11:45 AM
Siya naman talaga nakascore dun. They actually replayed that shot at si Espinas talaga nakashoot.

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sino ba yung kaaway nya dun? parang tumuro pa sya nun, pag si harfield gulpi sya dun..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: VenoM_Unleashed on May 18, 2013 at 08:43 PM
Siya naman talaga nakascore dun. They actually replayed that shot at si Espinas talaga nakashoot.

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Si Espinas din pala naka score nun, in that case noong nag flex sya ng muscle nya, para sa katabi nya pala na naka pula din 'yung gesture na yun?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: the_w0rks on May 19, 2013 at 09:08 PM
Urbiztondo = super sucks. Dont know why they play him pa. Sobrang bano sa 3, tentative playmaker, not that fast, no slashing skills. :-
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: edrel sison on May 19, 2013 at 09:38 PM
sweep. congrats alaska.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: vinci on May 19, 2013 at 09:40 PM
hanep alaska. ibang level talaga.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on May 19, 2013 at 09:53 PM
The much better team won ...... Congrats to ALASKA.

What I expected to be an epic series, turned out to be epic beatdowns.

Just have to say this one more time ....... TV5's coverage of the PBA s*cks !!!!



Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on May 19, 2013 at 10:18 PM
allain bawi ka na lang sa susunod, enjoy your new surround hehehe

start ng 4th lamang pa yata BGK kay nilipat ko na pag balik ko tambak na ulit, ano ba ginagawa ng coach ng BGK at bakit hinahayaang manakit ang player niya ng iisang player lang naman ng kabila ayan tuloy nasira ang diskarte ng buong team.

congratulations to Alaska and its fans.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: edrel sison on May 19, 2013 at 10:22 PM
and why are the champions drinking san miguel beer in the dugout? aren't they supposed to drink milk? ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mattia on May 19, 2013 at 10:25 PM
Watched the game.  That Casio 4 point play was the back breaker for Ginebra.  Kudos to the Beast and Sonny Thoss.

Congrats to Alaska. 
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: VenoM_Unleashed on May 19, 2013 at 10:49 PM
Tinanong nun commentator doon sa kasama nyang commentator, what happened daw to Ginebra in the 4th qrt, kasi lumaki na lamang ng Alaska, eh at the end of 3rd qrt lamang pa daw ng 1 pt BGK, ang sabi ni Jason Webb ata yun "it's a combination of a lot of things daw, blah, blah, blah, pero actually isa lang ang sagot dun "Urbiztondo". Walang sure ball, tapos nagkalat pa, dami ginawa kapalpakan. Sana binabad na lang si Tenorio, hindi na kailangan magpahinga do or die na yun eh.

No match talaga 'yun laban, sa tingin ko kahit TNT ang pumasok instead of BKG, ganoon din mangyayare, they will suffer the same fate as Ginebra, puro injured din kasi players nila.

Congrats Alaska!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: marsie38 on May 19, 2013 at 11:07 PM
Si dozier lang ang sagot jan. Ganda ng defense and offense. Getting his points from the inside through rebounds. Nobody could outrebound him.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mikz023 on May 20, 2013 at 12:02 AM
The much better team won ...... Congrats to ALASKA.

What I expected to be an epic series, turned out to be epic beatdowns.

Just have to say this one more time ....... TV5's coverage of the PBA s*cks !!!!





Yeah..longer commercials and too many cuts. hoping next time no more tv5 coverage of PBA! Pls!

Congrats alaska!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 20, 2013 at 12:38 AM
Saludo ako kay coach Luigi. Eventhough I wasnt able to watch any game of the Championship series, basing it with the final score alone, I can say na they totally dominated the series. Great job of Alaska preparing for the series. Hats off!!! Well organized ball club :)

Btw, Im a Ginebra fan... And still am ^-^
Title: Re: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: the_w0rks on May 20, 2013 at 06:05 AM
Tinanong nun commentator doon sa kasama nyang commentator, what happened daw to Ginebra in the 4th qrt, kasi lumaki na lamang ng Alaska, eh at the end of 3rd qrt lamang pa daw ng 1 pt BGK, ang sabi ni Jason Webb ata yun "it's a combination of a lot of things daw, blah, blah, blah, pero actually isa lang ang sagot dun "Urbiztondo". Walang sure ball, tapos nagkalat pa, dami ginawa kapalpakan. Sana binabad na lang si Tenorio, hindi na kailangan magpahinga do or die na yun eh.

No match talaga 'yun laban, sa tingin ko kahit TNT ang pumasok instead of BKG, ganoon din mangyayare, they will suffer the same fate as Ginebra, puro injured din kasi players nila.

Congrats Alaska!

Tira ng tira sa tres sobrang bano naman nya. Grabe dami sinayang na open shots. Momentum breaking plays ginagawa ni mokong e.  Tapos yung fastbreak na 3 on 1 yata nabokya pa dahil tinurnover. Sus
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: VenoM_Unleashed on May 20, 2013 at 02:03 PM
^ Kahit nga deadball na, nag try pa din mag shoot si Urbiztondo sa 3 pt line, parang practice shoot na lang, pero hindi pa din na-shoot  ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on May 20, 2013 at 04:55 PM
yan yung sinasabi ni sir newaveboy about urbiztondo a few pages back kaya nag tataka sya bakit kinuha pa ng BGK, sablay ang decision making at di marunong mag orchestrate ng play ang hilig pumukol sa 3 kahit di naman shooter.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on May 20, 2013 at 05:41 PM
congrats, Alaska! no bitterness here. with the way they prepared and played, they really deserved it. it does not matter if macklin and caguioa were injured and not 100%. adjustments could have been made, but chua did not. instead, he still relied heavily on them. and his gamble did not pay off.

regarding urbiztondo, he really sucks! but knowing loverboy eala, i'm sure josh will not be staying long with ginebra. it was a very lop-sided deal and yet eala took it. i'm thinking urbiztondo is just a pawn and will be used as bait soon.

allain bawi ka na lang sa susunod, enjoy your new surround hehehe

buti hindi tayo sa finals nagpustahan. hehe

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i was passing by EDSA this afternoon and saw a one-liner being displayed on the MMDA screen --- "babalik ang barangay". it made no sense to me at first. but then, in the next MMDA screen, there was a picture of chua with a message --- "salamat sa laban. babalik tayo sa 3rd conference". my question is --- why did it appear on MMDA's highway screen?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: the_w0rks on May 20, 2013 at 08:13 PM
Ang tawag jan kay Urbiztondo - master bait. Sana nga itrade. Patalo talaga e.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on May 20, 2013 at 09:30 PM
On to the 3rd conference ....... I just heard that the PBA recently enacted a new rule, wherein mother teams no longer have exclusive rights to their imports.

This means that resident imports of some teams can sign-up with a rival team, even without a formal release from his mother team - exceptions with sister-teams though. 

It's funny, but this new rule somewhat legalizes the "under-the-table" deals which certain teams (read: SMC) offer to known high-prized imports.

Take DJ Mbenga for example ....... he's a legit NBA player and he flat-out refused ALASKA's max contract offer, only to sign-up with BARAKO BULL (SMCorp lapdog) a few weeks later. WTF?  ;D

ALASKA team owner W. Uytengsu asked the question a few years ago "What's the difference with our P350,000 (referring to then max allowable contract) with SMCorps P350,000?"


What reason would there be for a guy like Mbenga to refuse a max import contract, only to sign-up with another team instead ?  ;)

There are reports that Loverboy Eala is targeting ROS import Arizona Reid as their 3rd conference import ...... Reid is a damm fine import and will likely be ROS' target import due to Cornley's recent legal woes.

The question is, which will Reid choose - ROS' money or SMC's money ....... should just be the same, right?  ;)

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on May 20, 2013 at 09:39 PM
On to the 3rd conference ....... I just heard that the PBA recently enacted a new rule, wherein mother teams no longer have exclusive rights to their imports.

This means that resident imports of some teams can sign-up with a rival team, even without a formal release from his mother team - exceptions with sister-teams though. 

It's funny, but this new rule somewhat legalizes the "under-the-table" deals which certain teams (read: SMC) offer to known high-prized imports.

Take DJ Mbenga for example ....... he's a legit NBA player and he flat-out refused ALASKA's max contract offer, only to sign-up with BARAKO BULL (SMCorp lapdog) a few weeks later. WTF?  ;D

ALASKA team owner W. Uytengsu asked the question a few years ago "What's the difference with our P350,000 (referring to then max allowable contract) with SMCorps P350,000?"


What reason would there be for a guy like Mbenga to refuse a max import contract, only to sign-up with another team instead ?  ;)

There are reports that Loverboy Eala is targeting ROS import Arizona Reid as their 3rd conference import ...... Reid is a damm fine import and will likely be ROS' target import due to Cornley's recent legal woes.

The question is, which will Reid choose - ROS' money or SMC's money ....... should just be the same, right?  ;)



Which means they will also try to lure Dozier into their fold the next time out. Funny that only SMC teams and their cohorts get the short end of the deal when getting imports. Macklin is good and so is the one of San Mig but obviuosly Dozier was the winner.

when will the PBA realize that this league is going nowhere with this kind of bad strategy of MSC teams.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on May 21, 2013 at 07:49 AM
Which means they will also try to lure Dozier into their fold the next time out. Funny that only SMC teams and their cohorts get the short end of the deal when getting imports. Macklin is good and so is the one of San Mig but obviuosly Dozier was the winner.

when will the PBA realize that this league is going nowhere with this kind of bad strategy of MSC teams.

SMCorp has complete control of the PBA board, owing to its 6 teams ...... yup, they have six teams: PETRON, BGK, SMC, BARAKO, AIR21 & GPORT.

Any changes in the rules require a majority vote from the board (2/3 afaik) ...... hence we see rules favoring SMC the past few years e.g. Increase of max salary from 350 to 420k, rejection of PHOENIX PETROLEUM's application, relaxing of import hiring rules, etc.

SMCorp also has Comm. Cheato Salud in its pocket ...... In fairness to Salud, he is trying his best to look fair e.g. revising proposed lopsided trades which still turn out lopsided in the end ...... in many ways, he's just there to regulate the greed.  ;)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: SiCkBoY on May 21, 2013 at 08:50 AM
Tinanong nun commentator doon sa kasama nyang commentator, what happened daw to Ginebra in the 4th qrt, kasi lumaki na lamang ng Alaska, eh at the end of 3rd qrt lamang pa daw ng 1 pt BGK, ang sabi ni Jason Webb ata yun "it's a combination of a lot of things daw, blah, blah, blah, pero actually isa lang ang sagot dun "Urbiztondo". Walang sure ball, tapos nagkalat pa, dami ginawa kapalpakan. Sana binabad na lang si Tenorio, hindi na kailangan magpahinga do or die na yun eh.

No match talaga 'yun laban, sa tingin ko kahit TNT ang pumasok instead of BKG, ganoon din mangyayare, they will suffer the same fate as Ginebra, puro injured din kasi players nila.

Congrats Alaska!

I remember one coach yelling to his team during a time out, "Artadi is on our side, guys!" Take note, nasa opposing team si Artadi.

Ganun din si Urbiztondo haha!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on May 21, 2013 at 08:57 AM
^ Nice observation bro newwave, I remember when tanduay pulled out their team sa pba, I think it was their team manager who said pba is a pure smc league.. So now, its 6 from smc, and 2 from mvp.. ROS and Alaska na lng.. Maganda kung sila naglaban sa finals.. :)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on May 21, 2013 at 09:26 AM
^ Nice observation bro newwave, I remember when tanduay pulled out their team sa pba, I think it was their team manager who said pba is a pure smc league.. So now, its 6 from smc, and 2 from mvp.. ROS and Alaska na lng.. Maganda kung sila naglaban sa finals.. :)

It was team owner Bong Tan himself who declared the PBA as an SMC-league.

People might now know this, but Tan commissioned a 3rd party observation on PBA officiating ...... it was done by officials from the GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS.

The officials concluded that the refs indeed favor SMC teams ...... imagine that, an NBA team no less.  ;)

Of course, Tan himself was no saint ...... seeing the unethical practices of SMC, he himself resorted to his own brand of under-the-table deals just to compete.

It went all downhill for him, when Alvarado was revealed as a Filsham ....... then the botched Ildefonso deal ...... finally to the double-contracts of Hawkins, etc.

With so much disgust, he traded his stars to SMC teams then folded his franchise.


Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: the_w0rks on May 21, 2013 at 09:36 AM
yeah, quite obvious naman yung mga refs na yan. Yung mga halatang tawag na nasa harap na nila, minsan iniignore nila kahit kitang kita nila. nung nanuod ako last year ng TnT vs Bmeg, si Pingris ang daming mga obvious cheap shots/fouls pero di tinatawagan. haha

Nakakatuwa tingnan kasi ang lupit ni Pingris sumimple pero di natatawagan.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on May 21, 2013 at 10:12 AM
^ nice, si pingris konting bangga ni abueva, reklamo na..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on May 21, 2013 at 11:00 AM
There are reports that Loverboy Eala is targeting ROS import Arizona Reid as their 3rd conference import ......

for which team? i think it would not be for Ginebra. as early as the first week (iirc) of this month, loverboy already had a statement that Ginebra's import for the third conference will be Dior Lowhorn, said to be a standout in the ABL.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 21, 2013 at 11:53 AM
i saw the import of TNT two days ago in eastwood.. mukhang mareretain sya this coming season..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on May 21, 2013 at 01:08 PM
Import Prospects Of Each Team

Alaska Aces: Wendell McKines (confirmed)

Barako Bull Energy Cola: Mike Singletary (confirmed)

Talk N Text Tropang Texters: Tony Mitchell (confirmed)

Sanmig Coffee Mixers: Marqus Blakely (confirmed)

Brgy. Ginebra San Miguel: Dior Lowhorn (confirmed)

Globalport Batang Pier: Jamelle Cornley (in negotiations)

Meralco Bolts: Mario West (in negotiations)

Petron Blaze Boosters: DJ Kennedy, Arizona Reid (contacting both imports, but if nothing happens they will bring Anthony Grundy back in the PBA)

Rain Or Shine Elasto Painters: Arizona Reid (in negotiations)

Air21 Express: Zach Graham, Chamberlain Oguchi (still in contact with both players)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on May 21, 2013 at 03:56 PM
ALASKA's new import is a scorer ....... definitely not in the mold of rebounding demons like Blakely, Reid & Cornley. They got a similar import a few years ago, LD Williams ..... didn't turn out so well.

Anthony Grundy will be a boost to PETRON - an import who does a lot of things very well ........ GPORT's Mark Yee will welcome Grundy with a one arm cavity search.  ;D

No love for Nate Brumfeld from any team?



Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on May 21, 2013 at 04:07 PM
No love for Nate Brumfeld from any team?

i heard there was one team scouting for him. the team, however, escapes my mind.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: retro12195 on May 21, 2013 at 04:15 PM
grabe yong import ng ALASKA   :o
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkwuhA7trbE
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: the_w0rks on May 21, 2013 at 04:38 PM
sus. wala bang Chris King o Leon Trimmingham jan? hahaha! pasensiya na, simula nung nadisband yung Ginebra nila Bal David, Jawo, The Flying Tank and Aquino, di na ako nakasubaybay gaano sa PBA. Ngayon lang ulit nagkainterest.

Yung mga naaalala ko nun sila Lamont Strothers, Sean Chambers, Bobby Parks, Tony Harris, Silas Mills. haha
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: VenoM_Unleashed on May 21, 2013 at 05:04 PM
yan yung sinasabi ni sir newaveboy about urbiztondo a few pages back kaya nag tataka sya bakit kinuha pa ng BGK, sablay ang decision making at di marunong mag orchestrate ng play ang hilig pumukol sa 3 kahit di naman shooter.

Na observe na pala 'yun ni Sir newaveboy. Yung din ang nasa isip ko noong PBA Finals. Saktong-sakto, tumbok na tumbok ni Sir newaveboy  ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on May 21, 2013 at 05:33 PM
Import Prospects Of Each Team

Alaska Aces: Wendell McKines (confirmed)

Barako Bull Energy Cola: Mike Singletary (confirmed)

Talk N Text Tropang Texters: Tony Mitchell (confirmed)

Sanmig Coffee Mixers: Marqus Blakely (confirmed)

Brgy. Ginebra San Miguel: Dior Lowhorn (confirmed)

Globalport Batang Pier: Jamelle Cornley (in negotiations)

Meralco Bolts: Mario West (in negotiations)

Petron Blaze Boosters: DJ Kennedy, Arizona Reid (contacting both imports, but if nothing happens they will bring Anthony Grundy back in the PBA)

Rain Or Shine Elasto Painters: Arizona Reid (in negotiations)

Air21 Express: Zach Graham, Chamberlain Oguchi (still in contact with both players)

just wondering ano nangyari dun sa import dati ng Alaska si Devon Davis ba yun bakit di na naglaro ulit at si Rossel Ellis?
Title: PBA Season 38
Post by: iammarcotoo on May 21, 2013 at 05:38 PM
About Urbiztondo: he was actually playing well before he got traded..he played well for B-Meg (starter) and for Barako too..
Problem kay Urbiztondo is he is a "system" type of PG...hindi sya marunong mshado magadapt...and playing lesser minutes for GSM compared to his former team made it worse...
So i kind of disagree that he is a "bad" player but i agree the trade for him was a head-scratcher
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on May 21, 2013 at 06:11 PM
just wondering ano nangyari dun sa import dati ng Alaska si Devon Davis ba yun bakit di na naglaro ulit at si Rossel Ellis?

Rossel Ellis suddenly got old during his last stint in the PBA ....... during his heyday, Ellis was fun to watch.

The man had a nose for the ball and relied on his work ethic, since he was limited offensively.

Tim Cone has been quoted many times that Ellis is one of his favorite imports, along with Chambers, Davis, etc.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on May 21, 2013 at 06:42 PM
About Urbiztondo: he was actually playing well before he got traded..he played well for B-Meg (starter) and for Barako too..
Problem kay Urbiztondo is he is a "system" type of PG...hindi sya marunong mshado magadapt...and playing lesser minutes for GSM compared to his former team made it worse...
So i kind of disagree that he is a "bad" player but i agree the trade for him was a head-scratcher

If the basis for playing well is merely scoring in double digits by making some 3-point shots despite the low field goal percentage, then Urbiztondo was definitely playing well before he got traded to Ginebra. The problem with Urbiztondo is not that he is a "system" type of PG nor that he doesn't adapt that well, the problem with Urbiztondo is that the only thing he knows is to shoot but he does not do it well.
Title: PBA Season 38
Post by: iammarcotoo on May 21, 2013 at 06:59 PM
Hi Sir...checked the stats..he is not the most efficient player as he shoots below 40% from the field..but he averaged almost 11 pts and 5 assists per game..for a role player..i can say that is kinda playing well before the trade

If you compare him to Tenorio..LA is +2 in ppg..almost the same in assists and turnovers..and shoots worse than Urbiztondo...
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on May 21, 2013 at 07:25 PM
Rossel Ellis suddenly got old during his last stint in the PBA ....... during his heyday, Ellis was fun to watch.

The man had a nose for the ball and relied on his work ethic, since he was limited offensively.

Tim Cone has been quoted many times that Ellis is one of his favorite imports, along with Chambers, Davis, etc.

thanks sir newave, i got to talk to ellis in person and he is one of the nicest i met, very down to earth and humble and thats after the championship he had with Alaska, havent heard from him since then.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on May 21, 2013 at 11:34 PM
the problem with Urbiztondo is that the only thing he knows is to shoot but he does not do it well.

no offense meant, sir. but allow me to modify your post and say that "the problem with urbiztondo is that the only thing he know is to THROW the ball but he does not shoot well.

Hi Sir...checked the stats..he is not the most efficient player as he shoots below 40% from the field..but he averaged almost 11 pts and 5 assists per game..for a role player..i can say that is kinda playing well before the trade

If you compare him to Tenorio..LA is +2 in ppg..almost the same in assists and turnovers..and shoots worse than Urbiztondo...

11 points average. that's roughly three 3 point shots and a field goal every game---in short, four attempts. Urbiztondo takes more attempts than that. waaayyyyy more than that. the average points made does not make one an efficient player. a scorer perhaps. but not efficient. and a 40% shooting clip is definitely not efficient. PLUS he is not a play maker, he has no other moves (except to shoot from beyond the arc), he does not know how to pass well, he does not make his teammates involved in the plays.
Title: PBA Season 38
Post by: iammarcotoo on May 22, 2013 at 12:03 AM
no offense meant, sir. but allow me to modify your post and say that "the problem with urbiztondo is that the only thing he know is to THROW the ball but he does not shoot well.

11 points average. that's roughly three 3 point shots and a field goal every game---in short, four attempts. Urbiztondo takes more attempts than that. waaayyyyy more than that. the average points made does not make one an efficient player. a scorer perhaps. but not efficient. and a 40% shooting clip is definitely not efficient. PLUS he is not a play maker, he has no other moves (except to shoot from beyond the arc), he does not know how to pass well, he does not make his teammates involved in the plays.

Haha ok lng sir..mganda pagdebatehan tlaga sports..healthy naman...anyway...all i'm saying is he played "well" in Barako. I'm not saying he is efficient..as i have mentioned in my post...But for a role player, those are decent stats...he is a shoot first PG...but to say he doesnt pass well is kind of unfair to say since he averaged almost 5 assists per game. League leader last conf was at 6.xx apg. And comparing him to an elite PG like Tenorio last conf, their stats (ppg,apg,fg%,to) are almost the same..the big difference is that Tenorio is a better leader which is kind of expected of him since he is a superstar in the league..while Urbiztondo is not..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on May 22, 2013 at 01:31 AM
he is a shoot first PG

he is more of a catch-and-shoot pointguard.......pagka-tanggap ng bola, tira agad.  :P

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here is the format for the 3rd conference:

PBA Govs Cup Aug 14, single-round elims then last
2 out; top 4 2x-to-beat edge over next 4, winners
in best-of-5 semis then best-of-7 finals
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on May 22, 2013 at 09:58 AM
To think that BGK had Mike Cortez in their lineup just a conference ago ....... now, all they have to backup LA is effin' Urbiztondo & Labagala.  ;D

This is what separates the "legit" champion teams of ALASKA & ROS versus the fantasy-trade teams of Loverboy Eala ...... GM's like Trillo & Jao know the kind of players they"ll need to build a contender from the ground up - all along, they play within the salary cap rules of the league.

On the flip side, Loverboy Eala is like a kid who was left alone in the kitchen ...... he will eat & get all that he can without thinking of the consequences.

Eala has been given unlimited funds & he doesn't even follow salary cap rules. He even has 3 farm teams to supply his 3 main teams with draft picks and bluechip players with.

And to top it all off, Eala has no basketball background whatsoever, other than being a commentator ...... Eala is clear proof that gift of gab can get you places here in Da Pilipins.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on May 22, 2013 at 01:46 PM
To think that BGK had Mike Cortez in their lineup just a conference ago ....... now, all they have to backup LA is effin' Urbiztondo & Labagala.  ;D

exactly. they traded mike cortez because, according to them, they were loaded with guards. then, they acquired urbiztondo. the worst part is they let go of keith jensen AND a 2nd round draft pick! as i've said, the trade was very lopsided, with ginebra getting the raw end of the deal. i am of the view that urbiztondo does not carry such a high price tag.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on May 22, 2013 at 10:47 PM
http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/one-for-the-road-for-ginebra-who-installed-edsa-tribute-to-chua-and-why-its-no-longer-there (http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/one-for-the-road-for-ginebra-who-installed-edsa-tribute-to-chua-and-why-its-no-longer-there)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: frootloops on May 22, 2013 at 11:43 PM
^ so private pala may ari at pwede ang paid ad sa gilid? pwes...matindi ang may ari nito, hindi na sa gilid gilid ng Edsa ang ad...ngayon sa GITNA na!

Dsitracting pa yan lalo na sa gabi..ang lakas ng ilaw.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on May 25, 2013 at 08:10 PM
Here we go again ..... another impending Loverboy Eala fantasy trade.

Eala trying to revive their trade proposal ...... BGK's Yousef Taha, Elmer Espiritu & Rob Labagala for GLOBAL PORT's Japeth Aguilar & Willie Miller.

Three (3) benchwarmers for a National Team member & a still serviceable starting SG ..... fair na fair, right Comm Salud ??  ;D ;D

Eala claims that BGK needs bigs, after being manhandled by ALASKA's Thoss ...... well it proves my point once more, about Eala's limited knowledge about the sport.

Having a tall player doesn't guarantee you a center ...... Aguilar is near 7-feet, but he plays like a SF - a position which BGK has in abundance - heck, they got rid of Canaleta, Maliksi, Jensen, etc since they're already loaded with Ellis, Espiritu, Wilson, Ababou, Baracael, Hatfield, Maierhofer, etc sharing limited minutes.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on May 25, 2013 at 08:55 PM
^ Maybe they want japeth to play d, protecting the rim ala hibbert..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on May 25, 2013 at 11:48 PM

Eala trying to revive their trade proposal ...... BGK's Yousef Taha, Elmer Espiritu & Rob Labagala for GLOBAL PORT's Japeth Aguilar & Willie Miller.

i really don't understand eala's craving for aguilar. yes, he is tall. but that's all he has. look at where aguilar brought globalport? on the top of the standings.....IF you count the losses. also, if ever ginebra trades a small, they should trade urbiztondo instead. i would prefer labagala over urbiztondo.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: vinci on May 26, 2013 at 12:35 AM
as alaska fan. bring it on eala.  hehehe.  grabe kahit simpleng fan nakikita na ano mali. pero banat pa rin.  bat kaya yung higher management e hinahayaan din lang? di rin ba nila nakikita?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on May 26, 2013 at 12:52 AM
Basta ng perform ng maayos sa iabng team, it doesnt matter kukunin yan ng smb basta sa kakampi nilang team mang galing
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on May 26, 2013 at 10:23 PM
Basta ng perform ng maayos sa iabng team, it doesnt matter kukunin yan ng smb basta sa kakampi nilang team mang galing

actually, kahit hindi magandaang performance sa ibang team, kunikuha pa din. josh urbiztondo is the best example of that.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on May 27, 2013 at 09:43 AM
Basta ng perform ng maayos sa iabng team, it doesnt matter kukunin yan ng smb basta sa kakampi nilang team mang galing

Somewhat on the flipside naman bro .....

There has been many instances wherein benched SMCorp. players (aging, injured, dog-housed, slump, etc) choose to remain benched or in the reserved list - even if other teams are offering them spots and the playing time that goes with it.

Dorian Pena, Danny Seigle, Cris Calaguio, Lordy Tugade, Homer Se, Junthy Valenzuela, Johnny Abbarientos, etc ...... all were in the dog-house of SMCorp teams at one time or another.   

Other rival teams sought to get their services via trade offers or straight-up offer-sheets - yet these players chose to remain in the SMCorp bench ...... makes you wonder why ??  ;)

Johnny Abbarientos was removed a spot as a BGK player and assigned as an assistant-coach instead; yet he still wanted to play to close out his career and redeem some lost pride (drugs and sabonggero allegations) ........ ALASKA's Tim Cone offered him a spot on his line-up ..... a few days later, Cone's offer was formally rejected by Abbarientos who never did play again.  ;)

=================================================================================

Reserved-list players are unprotected, thus can be taken (without compensation) by other teams that makes an offer ...... this rule has been recently used by some teams, as a new way to bypass (read: cheat) player trading.

Some recent players who got "sold" este transferred to other teams via this route were Josh Urbiztondo and Renren Ritualo.

Then ALASKA coach Tim Cone howled in protest when Urbiztondo was transferred (for nothing) by AIR21 to BMEG via this deceitful route ....... a few conferences later, Tim Cone is SMC/BMEG coach and he trades Urbiztondo back to AIR21/BARAKO for a 2013 1st round draft pick !


"There is so much hypocrisy in sports." - Dennis Rodman  ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: VenoM_Unleashed on Jun 10, 2013 at 05:54 PM
Mukhang done deal na 'to, Japeth Aguilar to BGK

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/pba-trade-japeth-aguilar-yousif-taha-basketball-ginebra-globalport
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jun 10, 2013 at 08:12 PM
Mukhang done deal na 'to, Japeth Aguilar to BGK

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/pba-trade-japeth-aguilar-yousif-taha-basketball-ginebra-globalport

Romero doesn't seem to think so.

http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/japeth-aguilar-to-ginebra-no-deal-yet-says-globalport-owner-mikee-romero

Ito yung done deal na. Dillinger and Allado to Meralco, Sean Anthony to TNT, Buenafe and Gilbert Bulawan to Barako.

http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/pba-approves-trade-dillinger-allado-to-meralco-buenafe-to-barako-bull-anthony-to-talk-n-text
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Jun 10, 2013 at 09:20 PM
Mukhang done deal na 'to, Japeth Aguilar to BGK

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/pba-trade-japeth-aguilar-yousif-taha-basketball-ginebra-globalport

It's probably only a matter of time, but Japeth will be moved to an SMCorp team eventually ....... Mikee Romero has way too much love for his padrinos RSA & MVP.

It's the same old story as many past lopsided trades (e.g. Lassiter, Devance, Santos, etc) ...... lopsided trade proposal between SMCorp and any of its pseudo-sister teams ....... PBA office to deem it unfair & will demand SMC to sweeten the deal ....... SMC sends a pick and/or a scrub, then voila, deal is approved even though the deal is still lopsided and defies all sense of fair play, parity and salary rules.

Japeth will make for a few hilites every now and then ...... but that's about it. One game he'll score well then majority of the conference he'll disappear altogether.

Be careful what you wish for Loverboy Eala.  ;)

Ito yung done deal na. Dillinger and Allado to Meralco, Sean Anthony to TNT, Buenafe and Gilbert Bulawan to Barako.

http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/pba-approves-trade-dillinger-allado-to-meralco-buenafe-to-barako-bull-anthony-to-talk-n-text

MERALCO - Good trade as a healthy Dillinger is way more versatile than Buenafe will ever be.
TnT - 50/50 trade ...... Anthony will bring the hustle, but he is offensively inept. He is no finisher.
BARAKO - Another successful tran$$action for this sh*t franchise and owner Bert "Pimp Daddy" Lina.  ;)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on Jun 11, 2013 at 12:11 AM
^ Not a fan but I always like watching dilinger, parang ang gaan ng katawan.. Good thing wala na sya sa star studded team, he can now have more playing time..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jun 11, 2013 at 02:28 PM
Signed, sealed, delivered: Papers for Aguilar trade to Ginebra now with PBA awaiting Salud approval (http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/signed-sealed-delivered-papers-for-aguilar-trade-to-ginebra-now-with-pba-awaiting-salud-approval)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: VenoM_Unleashed on Jun 11, 2013 at 04:33 PM
Shoot na si Japeth sa BGK. JayWash to The Batang Pier.

http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/japeth-aguilar-to-ginebra-jay-washington-to-globalport-deals-approved-by-pba

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Jun 12, 2013 at 02:17 AM
ano ba ang meron si japeth at atat na atat si lover boy eala sa kanya? sana si asi na lang ang hinabol nila.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Jun 12, 2013 at 07:45 AM
ano ba ang meron si japeth at atat na atat si lover boy eala sa kanya? sana si asi na lang ang hinabol nila.

Yup, even at his advanced age, Asi is still very much serviceable ...... BGK does look like a good fit for Asi, for many reasons.

Loverboy Eala knows little about basketball; aside from broadcasting games.

Sadly, connections and the gift-of-gab gets you places here in Da Pilipins ...... Noli Eala (and Charles Tiu, Ryan Gregorio, etc) is clear proof of that.

Besides talking, the only things that Eala excels in are chasing after skirts and spending someone else's money ..... which got him in big trouble with the MVP camp, hence his transfer to RSA/SMC.

It's a very simple formula that Eala uses for his 3 SMCorp teams ....... BUY the best players (via his 3 farm teams BARAKO, AIR21 & GPORT) regardless of position and expect the coaches to win championships galore for him.  ;)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Jun 12, 2013 at 11:58 AM
Loverboy Eala knows little about basketball; aside from broadcasting games.

yeah right!
There was this game when a player (it was probably Paul Alvarez, can't remember anymore) showed his hang-time prowess. They replayed the video in slow-mo and Eala started heaping praises on the player's ability to stay in the air for a long time. He shouted, "Bilangin mo sa ere!" And he actually started counting how long the player stayed in the air while they were showing the slow-mo video. duh!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Jun 12, 2013 at 01:19 PM
it was actually leon trimmingham, a ginebra import in the 90s, who was known for his extremely high vertical leap. the hang timd count was 8 seconds...IN SLOWMO! at sinundan pa nya ng comment na - grabe talaga itong si trimmingham! ang tagal sa ere!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on Jun 12, 2013 at 06:04 PM
^ lol, naalala nya pa kaya yan..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Nikkie on Jun 14, 2013 at 05:40 PM
Sana naman magfit si Japeth. Kelangan din talaga ng Ginebra ng bigman. Problema lang sa kanya ayaw nya ng larong bigman.
Title: Re: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: SiCkBoY on Jun 14, 2013 at 06:51 PM
Sana naman magfit si Japeth.

I doubt this. Japeth has delusions of grandeur. Akala nya ang galing nya.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Jun 14, 2013 at 11:58 PM
masama epekto ng nba d-league sa kanya. natanim sa isip nya na super player sya. chua should be able to control him. otherwise, japeth's acquisition would do more harm than good for ginebra. para syang si bosh...big man na puro sa labas lang at takot makipag-banggaan sa loob.

on another note, now that the ABL is over, talks about Asi's transfer to ginebra are circulating again. who will they trade for him? mamaril and urbiztondo lang ang dapat nila bitawan.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Nikkie on Jun 15, 2013 at 07:07 AM
Bitawan na dapat yan si Urbiztondo. :D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: VenoM_Unleashed on Jun 15, 2013 at 09:08 AM
masama epekto ng nba d-league sa kanya. natanim sa isip nya na super player sya. chua should be able to control him. otherwise, japeth's acquisition would do more harm than good for ginebra. para syang si bosh...big man na puro sa labas lang at takot makipag-banggaan sa loob.

on another note, now that the ABL is over, talks about Asi's transfer to ginebra are circulating again. who will they trade for him? mamaril and urbiztondo lang ang dapat nila bitawan.

Sana nga, kung sakali makuha si Asi ng BGK, they will have their own version of "Twin Towers".
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Jun 15, 2013 at 11:05 AM
Bitawan na dapat yan si Urbiztondo. :D

in the first place, hindi naman na dapat kinuha yan eh. sayang si jensen. he could have been a vital cog in the line-up. OR a good trade bait for asi.

Sana nga, kung sakali makuha si Asi ng BGK, they will have their own version of "Twin Towers".

just like when they had Aquino and EJ Feihl.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jun 17, 2013 at 05:32 PM
masama epekto ng nba d-league sa kanya. natanim sa isip nya na super player sya. chua should be able to control him. otherwise, japeth's acquisition would do more harm than good for ginebra. para syang si bosh...big man na puro sa labas lang at takot makipag-banggaan sa loob.

on another note, now that the ABL is over, talks about Asi's transfer to ginebra are circulating again. who will they trade for him? mamaril and urbiztondo lang ang dapat nila bitawan.

sino nag champion sa ABL?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: retro12195 on Jun 17, 2013 at 07:02 PM
sino nag champion sa ABL?
SAN MIGUEL brader ASI ang MVP :D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jun 17, 2013 at 07:13 PM
sino nag champion sa ABL?

San Miguel swept Indonesia, 3-0. Indonesia's coach Todd Purves is set to become an active consultant for Petron as Abanilla takes over the coaching duties from Racela. That's interesting because in Game 2 of the ABL Finals, Indonesia lost because of a stupid move by Purves. Lamang 1pt ang Indo with 6secs left, SMB ball but no more timeouts left for SMB. Purves calls a timeout for Indonesia giving SMB a chance to set up a final play. Nakaw play ginawa ng SMB at ayun panalo. Purves practically gave that game away to SMB. If he's really going to join the Petron coaching staff, it makes you wonder if he called that timeout on purpose.

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/abl-pba-todd-purves-petron-coach-indonesia-warriors-basketball-philippines
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Jun 18, 2013 at 12:22 AM
ang yabang naman ni gregorio. after sabihin ni asi na gusto nya sa ginebra, he came up with a statement na ok lang na umalis si asi dahil sanay na sila na wala si asi sa team nila and "asi is not a factor for us right now". para namang ang galing nyang coach!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Chorus on Jun 20, 2013 at 10:05 AM
ang yabang naman ni gregorio. after sabihin ni asi na gusto nya sa ginebra, he came up with a statement na ok lang na umalis si asi dahil sanay na sila na wala si asi sa team nila and "asi is not a factor for us right now". para namang ang galing nyang coach!

+1

at kumusta naman ang career ng meralco ever since. hehehe
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: a2 on Jun 20, 2013 at 10:13 AM
lol at ryan "isolation" gregorio. bakit pa rin ba head coach yan hanggang ngayon? was really happy nung natanggal sya sa purefoods eh.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Jun 29, 2013 at 10:28 PM
trade proposal for approval:

asi and baclao to ginebra

ginebra releases willie wilson and, thank goodness, urbiztondo

Air21 gets vic manuel and willie wilson

meralco gets john wilson and urbiztondo
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Chorus on Jun 30, 2013 at 06:32 AM
asi and baclao to ginebra

sana mabigyan ng mahabang playtime si Baclao.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Nikkie on Jun 30, 2013 at 06:44 AM
Yes! Buti nawala na si Urbiztondo. :D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Jun 30, 2013 at 09:01 AM
asi and baclao to ginebra

sana mabigyan ng mahabang playtime si Baclao.

+1

Kaya lang he'll have to develop some offensive skills to get more playing time in any team
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: VenoM_Unleashed on Jun 30, 2013 at 09:36 AM
Ginebra won't trade 'building block' Ellis to get Asi Taulava, insists Eala

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/eala-denies-ginebra-trading-ellis-to-meralco-for-taulava-rumor-pba
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Jun 30, 2013 at 10:03 AM
Baclao has near reached his peak - when he was in college. Tells you a lot when no plays are being called for you, from college through the pros.

That's how limited he is offensively ....... he's on the same boat with majority of bigs nowadays.

Baclao has great timing for blocking shots near his zipcode and has half-decent rebounding skills ...... however, he has no polished inside game and his decent mid-ranged jumper is his major source of whatever points he gets.

Gone are the days of the alpha-dog bigs. The last generation had more than a few of those e.g. Ildefonso, Menk, Espino, D.Seigle, Aquino, Hawkins, Limpot, Pablo, Raymundo, etc.

Note: Did not even include those undersized PF's e.g. Locsin and Fil-shams e.g. Harp, Taulava & Pena (yup, these 3 are all Fil-shams).
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Jul 02, 2013 at 11:14 AM
Baclao has near reached his peak - when he was in college. Tells you a lot when no plays are being called for you, from college through the pros.

xxx

Baclao has great timing for blocking shots near his zipcode and has half-decent rebounding skills ...... however, he has no polished inside game and his decent mid-ranged jumper is his major source of whatever points he gets.

Gone are the days of the alpha-dog bigs. The last generation had more than a few of those e.g. Ildefonso, Menk, Espino, D.Seigle, Aquino, Hawkins, Limpot, Pablo, Raymundo, etc.

Note: Did not even include those undersized PF's e.g. Locsin and Fil-shams e.g. Harp, Taulava & Pena (yup, these 3 are all Fil-shams).


Baclao has potential. IIRC, he was one of the most sought after rookies during his batch. but he was not properly utilized. perhaps because he lacks size and heft. and, as pointed out, his main source of points is the perimeter, not inside the paint. para syang si bosh --- a big playing on the outside.

ah, yes.....Noli Locsin. he is a rare breed. i hope a player like him comes along again. he suddenly "disappeared" when he left ginebra.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Jul 04, 2013 at 08:15 AM
another rumor

Air21 plans to snatch Asi and Baclao from Meralco...and then send Asi to Ginebra for Maierhofer.

If i were ginebra, i'd stick with the original proposal...so that they'd get rid of urbiztondo.

edit: air21 will send Baclao in exchange for Asi...
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Jul 04, 2013 at 08:40 AM
Baclao has potential. IIRC, he was one of the most sought after rookies during his batch. but he was not properly utilized. perhaps because he lacks size and heft. and, as pointed out, his main source of points is the perimeter, not inside the paint. para syang si bosh --- a big playing on the outside.

ah, yes.....Noli Locsin. he is a rare breed. i hope a player like him comes along again. he suddenly "disappeared" when he left ginebra.

Baclao definitely has the size ....... however he is slow and non-athletic (like many disappointing bigs we've seen in the PBA through the years e.g. Punzalan, L.David, Buenaventura, Legaspi, Morelos, etc).

He has no back-to-the-basket game which should be essential for bigs like him ....... any few points he gets in the few minutes he plays, are always mid-ranged jumpers.

Locsin had a great combination of heft and quickness ...... those spins of his makes for great TV. Too bad that injuries, the arrival of Filams and rumors of drug use pushed him to early retirement.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Jul 04, 2013 at 12:50 PM
Locsin had a great combination of heft and quickness ...... those spins of his makes for great TV. Too bad that injuries, the arrival of Filams and rumors of drug use pushed him to early retirement.

plus the hang-time, which seemed impossible owing to his size and weight. the flying tank......

never heard he had injuries. well, perhaps because i stopped following him when he left ginebra. yung issue on drug use came up when he was still active? i thought it came out after his retirement. the drugs issue included Jun Limpot, right sir? and other players, iirc.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Jul 04, 2013 at 07:29 PM
plus the hang-time, which seemed impossible owing to his size and weight. the flying tank......

never heard he had injuries. well, perhaps because i stopped following him when he left ginebra. yung issue on drug use came up when he was still active? i thought it came out after his retirement. the drugs issue included Jun Limpot, right sir? and other players, iirc.

IIRC the drugs issue popped-up when he was still playing, though he was all but invisible due to his poor play ...... yup, it included Jun Limpot as well.

Locsin was a freakish athlete during his time ...... along with Asaytono - undersized PF's with great hops.

Everyone wishes that he had played a while longer.

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Jul 04, 2013 at 11:02 PM
IIRC the drugs issue popped-up when he was still playing, though he was all but invisible due to his poor play ...... yup, it included Jun Limpot as well.

Locsin was a freakish athlete during his time ...... along with Asaytono - undersized PF's with great hops.

Everyone wishes that he had played a while longer.



yeah...me included. how i admired locsin back then. and how i wished i played like him. sayang, di sya naging mvp.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: anya618 on Jul 05, 2013 at 04:48 PM
PBA sets fine for ‘flopping’ (http://sports.inquirer.net/108077/pba-sets-fine-for-flopping)
Title: Re: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Kd Jb on Jul 05, 2013 at 08:40 PM
PBA sets fine for ‘flopping’ (http://sports.inquirer.net/108077/pba-sets-fine-for-flopping)

Nakikigaya sa nba haha. Pati fine 5k din in pesos lang.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Jul 05, 2013 at 08:41 PM
PBA sets fine for ‘flopping’ (http://sports.inquirer.net/108077/pba-sets-fine-for-flopping)

yari si Ronald Tubid. :P
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: anya618 on Jul 05, 2013 at 08:50 PM
yari si Ronald Tubid. :P

sino pa ba sir ibang "best actor" sa pba?  >:D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Jul 05, 2013 at 09:51 PM
sino pa ba sir ibang "best actor" sa pba?  >:D

To a certain degree, a good portion of the player population will flop.

But there are some standouts in the art of flopping in the PBA ....... the absolute lord and master of flopping is Ronald Tubid ...... the brash new blood is Calvin Abueva.

Other flopping standouts are Tenorio, Artadi, Chan, Castro, Barocca, Pennisi (not even including that ball strike at his bald head).  ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jul 15, 2013 at 02:54 PM
Sumasali na sa drama ang Ginebra. And Hatfield has retired again.

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/ginebra-coach-alfrancis-chua-resigns
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: wengkapre on Jul 15, 2013 at 03:52 PM
nagsimula yan nung alisin sila Juno & Caidic sa coaching staffs  :P
kagagawan ni eala yan, lahat kasi pinakikialaman   :o
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Jul 15, 2013 at 06:41 PM
the coaching staff re-shuffling was allegedly the main reason why chua left. this was also the reason why the big j resigned back then.

nakaka-asar naman talaga ung ganun. babatuhan ka ng makakasama mo sa coaching staff without you knowing it.

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: bunnygod on Jul 16, 2013 at 01:19 AM
yeah...me included. how i admired locsin back then. and how i wished i played like him. sayang, di sya naging mvp.

noli locsin was one of my favorite players back in the days!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Jul 16, 2013 at 01:14 PM
on-line protest to oust eala ---

http://www.barangayginebra.com/2013/07/ginebra-fans-protest-online-ealaout.html?m=1 (http://www.barangayginebra.com/2013/07/ginebra-fans-protest-online-ealaout.html?m=1)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 16, 2013 at 01:51 PM
The SMC group of teams are certainly goin no where with those shuffling and exchanging of players.
I dont understand why Ramon Ang is allowing this state of confusions to happen in all his teams.
Its pretty obvious there's absolutely NO CHEMISTRY among the coaching staffs and the players.
The players dont really have time to develop and bond with one other.
That's the main reason why Alaska got the edge over other teams.
Title: PBA Season 38
Post by: iammarcotoo on Jul 17, 2013 at 01:11 PM
Ok lng naman reshuffling sa part ng GSM and SMC..ung Petron lang nmn problem kasi may conflict sa top players
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Jul 17, 2013 at 10:07 PM
yes, re-shuffling is ok. but not if done as frequently as eala does it. you will never attain chemistry with the way he is re-shuffling not only players but the coaching staff as well.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 18, 2013 at 10:07 AM
yes, re-shuffling is ok. but not if done as frequently as eala does it. you will never attain chemistry with the way he is re-shuffling not only players but the coaching staff as well.

Ang medyo hnd pinapakialaman ni Eala ay un San Mig Coffee becoz of his high respect to Tim Cone while the other SMC teams ang gulo gulo ng shauffling of players and coaches.

So did Coach Al quit BGK for good or was he convinced to stay?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Jul 18, 2013 at 12:12 PM
Ang medyo hnd pinapakialaman ni Eala ay un San Mig Coffee becoz of his high respect to Tim Cone

i don't think respect is an appropriate term. he does not know a thing about respect. takot, siguro, would be a better term.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: oweidah on Jul 18, 2013 at 12:20 PM
dapat 1 company 1 team. No sister companies umbrella corps. 
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Jul 18, 2013 at 12:46 PM
or at least, katulad nung dati --- limited to two
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jul 18, 2013 at 04:16 PM
Eala out as SMC consultant for basketball operations after 're-assignment' (http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/eala-out-as-smc-consultant-of-basketball-operations-after-re-assignment)

Despite a new role for Eala, SMC assures fans its basketball teams will 'continue to run smoothly' (http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/318080/sports/basketball/pba-despite-a-new-role-for-eala-smc-assures-fans-its-basketball-teams-will-continue-to-run-smoothly)

It would be funny if, in a few months, fans will clamor for Chua's exit naman for poor performance. He won't be coaching sa 3rd conference but he'll be back next season. But I really don't see Chua lasting long as coach of Ginebra.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Jul 18, 2013 at 04:24 PM
Ang medyo hnd pinapakialaman ni Eala ay un San Mig Coffee becoz of his high respect to Tim Cone while the other SMC teams ang gulo gulo ng shauffling of players and coaches.

So did Coach Al quit BGK for good or was he convinced to stay?

It was Tim Cone himself who demanded that Eala grant him full-control of BMEG prior to signing on with SMCorp ...... hence, he gets to select players and imports (e.g. Blakely, Bowles) - while BGK & PET's imports came from Toroman before (ex. Vroman).

Tim Cone is a big hypocrite ...... but the man knows his basketball.

Apparently Chualay was convinced at the last minute to file an indefinite leave, instead of resignation ....... must be due to the fact that Noli Eala has been removed from running SMCorp basketball operations !!

It's a great day for SMCorp teams followers.





Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: oweidah on Jul 18, 2013 at 09:14 PM
gone are the days players identified with teams kaya loyal fanatic fans sa teams nplayers
Panay rigodon players palitan pa ng team names.

Dati co,cezar guidaben fabiosa adornado hubalde crispa agad
Jawo arnaiz fernandez king tuadles toyota
Maski nung nagdisband may following pa rin ginebra anejo sanmiguel etc

Ngayon ?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 19, 2013 at 11:20 AM
Eala out as SMC consultant for basketball operations after 're-assignment' (http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/eala-out-as-smc-consultant-of-basketball-operations-after-re-assignment)

Despite a new role for Eala, SMC assures fans its basketball teams will 'continue to run smoothly' (http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/318080/sports/basketball/pba-despite-a-new-role-for-eala-smc-assures-fans-its-basketball-teams-will-continue-to-run-smoothly)

It would be funny if, in a few months, fans will clamor for Chua's exit naman for poor performance. He won't be coaching sa 3rd conference but he'll be back next season. But I really don't see Chua lasting long as coach of Ginebra.

Then who takes over Eala's place in trading/shuffling the coaches and players in SMC teams?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: wengkapre on Jul 19, 2013 at 11:40 AM
Then who takes over Eala's place in trading/shuffling the coaches and players in SMC teams?

Robert Non Sir
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 19, 2013 at 11:58 AM
Robert Non Sir

Thanks for the info.
I hope he wont be another Eala shuffling coaches and players swiftly but organize a solid group of players and coaches that will be given time to bond with one another.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jul 19, 2013 at 12:26 PM
Thanks for the info.
I hope he wont be another Eala shuffling coaches and players swiftly but organize a solid group of players and coaches that will be given time to bond with one another.

Wala ring pagbabago yan. For me, Non is worse when it comes to managing a team. He's not trigger happy like Eala but walang saysay yung mga moves niya dati before Eala came in.

He was in charge of basketball operations when then San Miguel traded Tenorio and Fonacier to Alaska for Cortez and Bono. Both Tenorio and Fonacier went on to lead their teams to championships. Cortez bounced around the league and Bono just disappeared from the league. Sure, Siot Tanquincen was the one who demanded to trade Tenorio but Non had the authority to say no. He didn't.

He was also in charge when SMC started hoarding/buying players (from then Red Bull).
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Jul 19, 2013 at 06:03 PM
^ Exactly ...... The casual fan may not know it, but Robert Non has long been the instigator of those past dubious trades for players and/or draft picks (ex. Arwind Santos for Ken Bono trade).

He's as "evil" as Eala ...... The only thing that Eala has over Non, was the gift of gab and a deep hatred for the MVP camp.

Eala is known for his flowery words - something which got him disbarred from practicing Law. I'm not kidding.  ;)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: anya618 on Jul 24, 2013 at 03:47 PM
‘I won’t let this pass,’ says PBA reporter on alleged beating by BF (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/451821/i-wont-let-this-pass-says-pba-reporter-on-alleged-beating-by-bf)

(http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/files/2013/07/sel-gievarra-cropped-300x383.jpg)
pwede siya pang "HOT" thread  >:D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on Jul 24, 2013 at 06:19 PM
Watching La Salle - adamson game, It was a bad unspotsmanlike call.. Game changer ika nga..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: anya618 on Jul 24, 2013 at 06:24 PM
Watching La Salle - adamson game, It was a bad unspotsmanlike call.. Game changer ika nga..

wrong thread ata sir  >:D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: puffalan84 on Jul 24, 2013 at 06:27 PM
wrong thread ata sir  >:D
ooops sorry sir.. See you tom..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Jul 25, 2013 at 07:58 PM
ato agustin was named as the interim head coach of bgsm, while chua is the team manager.

not so confident about ato...
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 25, 2013 at 10:31 PM
ato agustin was named as the interim head coach of bgsm, while chua is the team manager.

not so confident about ato...

Ato Agustin will do well for Ginebra becoz of his old school style of run and gun.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: wengkapre on Jul 26, 2013 at 09:54 AM
ato agustin was named as the interim head coach of bgsm, while chua is the team manager.

not so confident about ato...

“I will continue the system of Coach Al. Ayaw kong baguhin kasi baka gumulo lang sa team, kaya itutuloy ko yun,” said Agustin. via Interaksyon

Sana nga  ???
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: wengkapre on Jul 26, 2013 at 09:58 AM
Thanks for the info.
I hope he wont be another Eala shuffling coaches and players swiftly but organize a solid group of players and coaches that will be given time to bond with one another.

wala na din pala si Non Sir...salamat naman  ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: retro12195 on Jul 30, 2013 at 06:42 PM
 ;D  sana matuloy  http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/never-say-never-jaworski-tells-ginebra-faithful-as-he-leaves-door-open-for-return
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Aug 10, 2013 at 01:58 PM
The PBA has yet to start but Abueva has been in 2 tune-up game altercations already. First with Devance and just today against Danny Seigle. Lalo yatang yumabang at dumumi yung laro ni Abueva. He should tone it down at baka matapos ng maaga career niya.

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/calvin-abueva-joe-devance-pba-tune-up-fight-video
http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/video-infuriated-seigle-attacks-abueva-during-alaska-barako-bull-tune-up-game

And Seigle tweeted this referring to Abueva:

(http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz198/b-filmmaker/tweet.png)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Aug 10, 2013 at 03:22 PM
Hehe, like I said Robert Non is as "evil" as the ousted Noli Eala ....... yet another one of the endless lopsided WTF trades between SMC and it's (secret) sister teams.

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/petron-acquires-kramer-from-barako-bull-in-the-first-step-of-explosive-deal

A prime Doug Kramer traded for the corpse of Dorian Pena and a useless 2nd round pick.

Why in the hell would BARAKO make such a trade ? ...... considering that a.) Kramer is prime .... b.) Pena is old ....... c:) Pena was already in their lineup just a few conferences ago.

Everyone knows the answer of course ....... everyone except Comm. Cheato Salud.  ;)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: wengkapre on Aug 10, 2013 at 03:30 PM
^ kasunod na dyan si Gary David papuntang Petron  :P
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Aug 10, 2013 at 03:42 PM
^ kasunod na dyan si Gary David papuntang Petron  :P

pag kinuha ng Petron si Gary David, di pa rin masusulusyunan ang problema nila sa rotation kahit wala na si Washington. Kasi kailangan ni David ng playing time para umiskor. at kailangan din niyang mahawakan ang bola. so dadami pa rin ang players ng Petron na nangangailangan na mahawakan ang bola para maging epektibo. maliban na lang kung gagawin nilang pangunahing scorer si David at papayag na maging suporta na lang ang ibang superstar nila. malabong mangyari.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Aug 10, 2013 at 03:43 PM
^ kasunod na dyan si Gary David papuntang Petron  :P

Yup, it wouldn't be a surprise at all if El Granada ends up with an SMC team ...... after all, Mikee Romero is a known lackey of Ramon Ang (Japeth Aguilar to BGK anyone?) - just like Bert Lina & George Chua.

The culture of "win-at-all-costs" of course has always been the mantra of Danding Cojuangco, be it in business or in sports ...... do everything in order to win - steal, cheat, intimidate, bribe, etc.

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Aug 11, 2013 at 11:15 PM
The PBA has yet to start but Abueva has been in 2 tune-up game altercations already. First with Devance and just today against Danny Seigle. Lalo yatang yumabang at dumumi yung laro ni Abueva. He should tone it down at baka matapos ng maaga career niya.

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/calvin-abueva-joe-devance-pba-tune-up-fight-video
http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/video-infuriated-seigle-attacks-abueva-during-alaska-barako-bull-tune-up-game

And Seigle tweeted this referring to Abueva:

(http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz198/b-filmmaker/tweet.png)

Agree!!!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: anya618 on Aug 12, 2013 at 03:53 PM
PBA: Petron, Barako Bull swap big men (http://sports.inquirer.net/114535/pba-petron-barako-bull-swap-big-men)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Aug 14, 2013 at 10:10 PM
ROS has got SMC's numbers for a few seasons now ..... ROS' collection of unheralded stars against SMC's loaded lineup (courtesy of BARAKO BULL/AIR21 of course).

Typical James Yap game ...... volume-shooting & very low FG%.

It's been this way for many years now, yet he's still considered to be the face of the PBA ..... tells you some thing about the fan demographic that has increased through the years e.g. females, etc.

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Aug 14, 2013 at 10:26 PM
perhaps, most fans now fail to see the flaws of james yap. what they see (or what they choose to see) are the shots he makes, and when and how he makes them. his long shots touching the bottom of the net --- that's what registers on their mind. percentage? they don't care about it. same with gary david.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Aug 15, 2013 at 03:43 AM
Fans are the lifeblood of any league. In he PBA's case, the female demographic became the more prominent one the past 2 decades (thanks in part to that '98 PUREFOODS team).

No offense to our lady viewers, but only a small fraction of female fans know the intricancies of the game and actually play the game. Yup, they won't usually care about things like FG%.

Let's face it (pun intended), face-value is a driving factor for many of our lady viewers ...... the good-looking star players are placed on a high-pedestal regardless of performance e.g. James Yap

One more "shining" example is JC Intal ...... except for a single good quarterfinals series, he has played like CRAP for most of his PBA career. Yet when the PBA sends a team for all-star events, celebrity games, etc you can bet your house that Intal will be there.  ;)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Aug 15, 2013 at 06:07 AM
Fans are the lifeblood of any league. In he PBA's case, the female demographic became the more prominent one the past 2 decades (thanks in part to that '98 PUREFOODS team).

No offense to our lady viewers, but only a small fraction of female fans know the intricancies of the game and actually play the game. Yup, they won't usually care about things like FG%.

Let's face it (pun intended), face-value is a driving factor for many of our lady viewers ...... the good-looking star players are placed on a high-pedestal regardless of performance e.g. James Yap

One more "shining" example is JC Intal ...... except for a single good quarterfinals series, he has played like CRAP for most of his PBA career. Yet when the PBA sends a team for all-star events, celebrity games, etc you can bet your house that Intal will be there.  ;)

which reminded me, Intal can very well be a Chris Webber of the PBA
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Aug 16, 2013 at 12:06 PM
Sinong maysabing di na si Eala nagpapatakbo ng SMC Basketball operations? Garapalan na naman 'to! Maliksi for Gonzales and Pacana?! Dahil ba mas marami binigay niyo eh pwede na?

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/san-mig-set-to-acquire-maliksi-as-scoring-option-as-yap-continues-to-misfire-v02
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Aug 16, 2013 at 01:30 PM
Hehehe. Maliksi for a 2-minute playing Gonzales & a career-scrub Pacana ..... that's totally FAIR ...... according to Danding Cojuangco.

Loverboy Eala = Robert Non = Garapal

Comm. Cheato Salud = SMCorp.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Aug 16, 2013 at 03:34 PM
^Approved na, dinagdagan lang ng 2017 2nd pick yung mapupunta sa Barako. Quantity over quality yung basis ng trades ngayon sa PBA. Dapat bitawan na lang ng San Mig Coffee si James Yap. Ang lakas kumain ng playing time, wala namang nagagawa.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Aug 16, 2013 at 04:28 PM
Hanep talaga, paano pa kay nakakatulog ng mahimbing ang mga taong involved sa ganitong deal?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: wengkapre on Aug 16, 2013 at 05:03 PM
oo nga, masyado nga lopsided yung Maliksi-Gonzales/Pacana trade    :P
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Aug 16, 2013 at 05:27 PM
oo nga, masyado nga lopsided yung Maliksi-Gonzales/Pacana trade    :P

If Maliksi is already healthy then it is but if Maliksi has not yet fully recovered then the lopsidedness is still prospective. But, then again, why trade for a player if you know he has not yet recovered or may not fully recover.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Aug 16, 2013 at 06:33 PM
Seriously, even if Maliksi plays just 10% of an entire season ....... I'm EXTREMELY sure that he'd have contributed much more than both Wesgon & Paloma este Pacana.

Wesgon is only good for churning out funny tweets, while Pacana is known for having big ears and his HOT girlfriend.  ;D

Back when he was ALASKA coach, Tim Cone used to publicly blast & criticize such lopsided trades ....... well, since transferring to SMC, his team has made MANY über-lopsided trades.

No response from Tim Cone, so far.   ;)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Aug 16, 2013 at 08:07 PM
Maliksi has been healthy since being traded from Ginebra. He was Barako's leading scorer last conference and easily the team's best player. He even played well when Barako played at the Dubai Invitational. And in their 1st game earlier vs TNT, Maliksi's presence would have changed the outcome of that game. But if it were Gonzales/Pacana, they would still have lost.

Anyway, here's Luigi Trillo's take on the trade:

(http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz198/b-filmmaker/tweet-1.png)
(http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz198/b-filmmaker/tradetweet.png)

And here's Barako Bull's Team Manager's comments on Luigi:

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/barako-bull-official-casyao-hits-back-at-trillo-for-tweets-on-illogical-maliksi-trade-v02

Nataw naman ako dun sa sinabi ni Casyao.

“Mind your own business. Wag siyang makialam sa mga trade na ganito,” said Casyao

Yun yun eh. Business talaga nila yung pag-trade ng player sa SMC. >:D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Chorus on Aug 17, 2013 at 06:54 AM
kung kalakasan lang sana ni Gonzales noong nasa Fedex pa siya fair pa siguro yung trade.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Aug 17, 2013 at 09:05 AM
Beg to differ bro ...... Wesley Gonzales has been crap for a good majority of his PBA career.

Indeed there was a small stretch of games wherein he did good enough to get minutes (heck, it was Yeng Guiao - the only coach who can get something out of castaway players) ...... but this stretch wasnt significant enough to change other teams opinion about him.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: retro12195 on Aug 26, 2013 at 03:17 PM
 Yeo bound for Air21 as Petron looks ahead to 2014 rookie draft  :o >:D >:D >:D >:D
http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/seldom-used-yeo-bound-for-air21-as-petron-looks-ahead-to-2014-rookie-draft
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Aug 26, 2013 at 03:36 PM
Yeo bound for Air21 as Petron looks ahead to 2014 rookie draft  :o >:D >:D >:D >:D
http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/seldom-used-yeo-bound-for-air21-as-petron-looks-ahead-to-2014-rookie-draft

Pumaren may like Yeo but passing up on the chance of being able to get Parks via a first round draft pick is illogical.

Ginebra trading Kerby Raymundo for Rob Reyes. Understandable since Rob Reyes, together with Ildefonso and Pennisi, was Ato Agustin's muscle inside the paint when Petron won its championship under Agustin. I guess Agustin finds Raymundo soft.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Aug 26, 2013 at 08:02 PM
Pumaren may like Yeo but passing up on the chance of being able to get Parks via a first round draft pick is illogical.

It is indeed illogical ..... but this is AIR21/BARAKO BULL ...... this team is managed by Lito Alvarez and owned by Bert "Pimp Daddy" Lina - both of whom report to a certain Ramon Ang.

(http://i39.tinypic.com/2dwi3hz.jpg)

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Aug 28, 2013 at 11:03 AM
The first version of the trade was fair. This new one is just lopsided.

Ginebra gets James Sena and Air21's 2014 1sr rd pick for Kerby Raymundo? Kerby has been riddled with injuries and isn't the same player he was. But he's traded for a potential 1st pick and a decent back-up big man? Ginebra's the new Petron when it comes to hoarding.

And Yeo for Omolon? They're trading Yeo because there's a logjam in his position at Petron. Omolon plays the same position as Tubid/Lutz/Lassiter. What's the point of getting Omolon then?

Ayaw talaga padehado ng SMC.

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/air21-petron-ginebra-agree-in-principle-on-tweaked-trade-for-yeo-raymundo
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Aug 28, 2013 at 01:08 PM
The first version of the trade was fair. This new one is just lopsided.

Ginebra gets James Sena and Air21's 2014 1sr rd pick for Kerby Raymundo? Kerby has been riddled with injuries and isn't the same player he was. But he's traded for a potential 1st pick and a decent back-up big man? Ginebra's the new Petron when it comes to hoarding.

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/air21-petron-ginebra-agree-in-principle-on-tweaked-trade-for-yeo-raymundo

IMO both versions of the trade are lopsided bro ...... one doesnt even have to know the exact details - as long as its a Lina/Chua franchise trade with its SMC master; it's guaranteed to be DUBIOUS.  ;)

Let's check it anyway .......

**** James Sena is an efficient back-up 4/5, while Kerby is the inefficient starting 4/5.

Kerby can still score high in spots, but he has slowed down with age and injuries.

One other angle that people doesn't see here ...... salaries. Sena is a 2nd rd draft pick, hence is probably earning around 150K/month. Meanwhile, Kerby is the only new-max (420K/month) player in the PBA.

Why would a "poor" team like AIR21 pay top money to an oft-injured, ball-hogging bigman?

2014 1st round pick? ....... it's almost guaranteed to be high since AIR21 doesnt win much. So, it's likely going to be a bluechip e.g. Parks, Banchero, Lanete, etc.

**** Yeo for Omolon makes some sense for both teams.

Yeo can get minutes for AIR21 ..... though Omolon is an SF, he doesn't play like your traditional SF - he likes camping near the paint for easy points. It's unlikely he'll get more minutes, but his game doesn't conflict with the other PET SF's e.g. Lassiter, Tubid, etc.

That being said, in the overall scheme of things, it's still very much lopsided - since getting Yeo was probably the "consuelo-de-bobo" given to Franz Pumaren by Lito Alvarez/Bert Lina ...... small compensation for losing a young, efficient Sena and a superstar-in-waiting Ray Parks.

**** Like I've posted a few times earlier in the thread, it's very amusing/ironic what's happening to Franz Pumaren.

In the PBA, he's being held down by the very same corrupt padrinos that he benefited from, during his UAAP coaching career.  ;)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Aug 30, 2013 at 09:40 PM
Emman Monfort just beat Ginebra tonight. He's been really impressive this conference. He plays like Jayvee Casio but physically stronger. Perfect yung game niya sa system ni Toroman. I thought he'd be a solid back-up PG but he's turning out to be a very dependable starting PG. Matalino maglaro at walang takot.

Minalas rin ang Ginebra at na-injure si Japeth. I hope it's nothing serious. Tuhod pa naman yun. Tenorio just scored 4pts after scoring a career-high 34pts in their last game. Di nakasabay kay Monfort.

Probably the best highlight in that game. Hilarious and impressive at the same time.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=498797330213683
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: wengkapre on Aug 30, 2013 at 10:30 PM
I agree w/ you sir!  parang nagpapawis lang buong ginkings-walang balak manalo  :P
The way i see the barako bulls maglaro, parang gilas v1.0, ang ganda ng rotation ng players, 10-11 players ata naipasok ni coach toroman, while si coach ato 8-9 lang  :P

Hopefully nothing serious nga injury ni Japeth
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: retro12195 on Aug 31, 2013 at 10:27 AM
Emman Monfort just beat Ginebra tonight. He's been really impressive this conference. He plays like Jayvee Casio but physically stronger. Perfect yung game niya sa system ni Toroman. I thought he'd be a solid back-up PG but he's turning out to be a very dependable starting PG. Matalino maglaro at walang takot.

Minalas rin ang Ginebra at na-injure si Japeth. I hope it's nothing serious. Tuhod pa naman yun. Tenorio just scored 4pts after scoring a career-high 34pts in their last game. Di nakasabay kay Monfort.

Probably the best highlight in that game. Hilarious and impressive at the same time.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=498797330213683
next week nasa SMC team na yan :)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Aug 31, 2013 at 10:36 AM
next week nasa SMC team na yan :)

Next season pa daw. Para di masyado obvious. Kapalit si Urbiztondo. ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Aug 31, 2013 at 05:51 PM
In other PBA news, BARAKO BULL has initiated a trade proposal which will send PG Eman Monfort to BARANGAY GINEBRA for the rights to bigman Ed Ducut and its 2036 2nd round pick.

Update:  PBA Comm. Chito Salud has deemed the latest trade proposal as "uneven" and demanded that BARAKO BULL include PF Dave Marcelo in the deal to make it fair.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Superman on Aug 31, 2013 at 06:05 PM
In other PBA news, BARAKO BULL has initiated a trade proposal which will send PG Eman Monfort to BARANGAY GINEBRA for the rights to bigman Ed Ducut and its 2036 2nd round pick.

Update:  PBA Comm. Chito Salud has deemed the latest trade proposal as "uneven" and demanded that BARAKO BULL include PF Dave Marcelo in the deal to make it fair.

Sir, I believe Wilmer Ong is included so that trade would be fair :D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Aug 31, 2013 at 10:05 PM
with japeth out for 4 to 6 weeks, ginebra re-activates eric menk.

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Aug 31, 2013 at 11:06 PM
with japeth out for 4 to 6 weeks, ginebra re-activates eric menk.



mas gusto ko yata si taulava, bigyan ng last hoorah sana
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 01, 2013 at 09:16 PM
Ginebra needs a better coach more than a better import. They were totally outcoached tonight vs Alaska. Ang gulo ng plays ni Ato nung last 2 minutes ng laro. Pati players niya di maintindihan. Maybe he's just not familiar with his personnel but a good coach should be able to design good plays no matter what kind of players he has.

Credit also goes to Alaska. Grabe ang composure ng team na 'to. They blew a 16pt lead in a matter of minutes pero di talaga nag-panic. They just ran their plays and played defense.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Sep 01, 2013 at 09:46 PM
^
Seriously they should consider bringing back "The Big J"...
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Sep 01, 2013 at 11:06 PM
Ginebra needs a better coach more than a better import.

totally agree with you, sir.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 02, 2013 at 09:23 AM
The Big J returning to BGK will be guaranteed blockbuster but wont bring in the championship/s.

The Ron Jacobs system has long been outdated, what more of Jawo's gung-ho, bahala-na-si-batman style?

Sadly, those schools of coaching will look lost in today's fast-paced offenses and zone defenses.

Call me crazy, but a Yeng Guiao-coached BGK ....... that's a contender right there.

A Tim Cone-coached PETRON ....... you can start counting the championships.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Sep 03, 2013 at 09:38 PM
The Big J returning to BGK will be guaranteed blockbuster but wont bring in the championship/s.

i hate to say it......but yes, i agree with you. more than the outdated strategy, Jawo is not his old self anymore. he may inspire and motivate the players but coaching wise, i don't think he still has it. one incident that eroded my confidence in Jawo was when he was being interviewed on radio during fiba-asia. he was incoherent, and his answers were unresponsive to the questions thrown at him.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 04, 2013 at 08:17 AM
Blame it on the SMC Mgt for the poor performances of its teams. Magulo un palipat lipat ng players and changes of head coaches. Pati un lipat lipat ng mga assistant coaches from sister teams.
No chemistry among its coaching staffs and players becoz they have no time to bond.
Just look at ROS and Alaska. They show results coz their mgt dont meddle too much with the decision of their respective coaches.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 04, 2013 at 11:20 AM
Blame it on the SMC Mgt for the poor performances of its teams. Magulo un palipat lipat ng players and changes of head coaches. Pati un lipat lipat ng mga assistant coaches from sister teams.
No chemistry among its coaching staffs and players becoz they have no time to bond.
Just look at ROS and Alaska. They show results coz their mgt dont meddle too much with the decision of their respective coaches.

there is a God, greedy kase sila masyado kaya ganyan nangyayari sa team nila, parang may curse na.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 04, 2013 at 06:01 PM
there is a God, greedy kase sila masyado kaya ganyan nangyayari sa team nila, parang may curse na.

+1TB ........ more than being greedy, madaya din ang SMCorp.

You can be greedy without cheating ...... but SMCorp has taken pro-basketball cheating at a whole new level.

Where else in all professional sports do you see one corporation control a league with:

3 main teams (PETRON, BGK & SMC)
3 lackey teams (BARAKO, AIR21 & GPORT)
6 board voting rights
1 Commissioner (This man also holds a separate VP position with SMCorp)

But there's more ...... they also have 1-ABL team which they also use as storage for their PBA players.

Salary cap violations, under-the-table deals, paid referees, etc ..... it's all covered by Danding's henchmen.

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: a2 on Sep 04, 2013 at 06:34 PM
globalport-san mig cofee melee featuring nabong vs pingris. san ka? suntukan na!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: TOY 01 on Sep 04, 2013 at 08:34 PM
globalport-san mig cofee melee featuring nabong vs pingris. san ka? suntukan na!

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uaY2KFzlw-s
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 04, 2013 at 10:29 PM
^Saw this as it happened and watched it again on Youtube.

Mga taga-San Mig Coffee naman nagsimula eh. Blakely wrapped his arm around Hayes' neck and pulled him down. Di naman bumagsak si Blakely dahil tinulak ni Hayes. He pulled Hayes down para kunwari finoul siya. Siyempre gumanti si Hayes at tinukuran niya yung ulo ni Blakely nung tumayo siya. Hayes walked away and even though Blakely came to confront him, it was clear that he was just going to talk trash. Nakisawsaw lang si Devance kaya ayun nagkagulo na. Nabong was just trying to protect his teammate. Pinalibutan ba naman ng tatlong kalaban. And what Pingris did was just too much. He sucker punched Nabong!

Kung ako si Salud, I would suspend Devance, Blakely, Pingris and Nabong. Blakely should have been called for a Flagrant 2 for that takedown on Hayes. Same with Devance. Pingris and Nabong should be suspended at least 3 games. I don't care if this is a short tournament. They should suffer the consequences of their actions.

I guess the only guy who was thinking straight during that time was Tim Cone.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Chain on Sep 05, 2013 at 04:08 AM
tomorrow we'll know whats their penalty.Should there be suspensions?lets wait and see
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 05, 2013 at 04:54 AM
Devance has always been a fake tough-guy ...... never in the center of altercations, always content to cheapshot/blindside like what he did to Hayes.

At the very least, it'll probably be suspensions for Pingris & Nabong.

I say probably, because this is Comm. Cheato Salud - many funny rulings have happened under his watch, especially when SMCorp players are involved.

===============================================================

SMC's Maiksi scored 18pts (plus almost 10 rebounds, some assists & blocks) in SMC's win over GPORT ...... he has overtaken Simon's role as primary bench scorer.

Meanwhile, the players BARAKO BULL got for trading Maliksi, Wesley Gonzales & Cris Pacana has yet to see action for the team ........ in fact, they're on the reserved list.

Why would any team trade for players that they wont even use?

Why trade your star player for 2 players that won't contribute AND increase your overall salary costs?   ;)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mattia on Sep 05, 2013 at 07:46 AM
^Saw this as it happened and watched it again on Youtube.

Mga taga-San Mig Coffee naman nagsimula eh. Blakely wrapped his arm around Hayes' neck and pulled him down. Di naman bumagsak si Blakely dahil tinulak ni Hayes. He pulled Hayes down para kunwari finoul siya. Siyempre gumanti si Hayes at tinukuran niya yung ulo ni Blakely nung tumayo siya. Hayes walked away and even though Blakely came to confront him, it was clear that he was just going to talk trash. Nakisawsaw lang si Devance kaya ayun nagkagulo na. Nabong was just trying to protect his teammate. Pinalibutan ba naman ng tatlong kalaban. And what Pingris did was just too much. He sucker punched Nabong!

Kung ako si Salud, I would suspend Devance, Blakely, Pingris and Nabong. Blakely should have been called for a Flagrant 2 for that takedown on Hayes. Same with Devance. Pingris and Nabong should be suspended at least 3 games. I don't care if this is a short tournament. They should suffer the consequences of their actions.

I guess the only guy who was thinking straight during that time was Tim Cone.

Blakely and Hayes were actually cool.  They were just bumping and making "gulang" on each other which, to me, is normal in basketball. Hayes was walking away na nga.  Then all hell broke loose when Devance, Nabong, Pingris went into the picture.  Yes, agree.  Pingris should get the biggest penalty as he took the first swing on Nabong. 

Tim Cone did a Jeff Van Gundy hahaha!!!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 05, 2013 at 08:30 AM
Blakely and Hayes were actually cool.  They were just bumping and making "gulang" on each other which, to me, is normal in basketball. Hayes was walking away na nga.  Then all hell broke loose when Devance, Nabong, Pingris went into the picture.  Yes, agree.  Pingris should get the biggest penalty as he took the first swing on Nabong. 

Tim Cone did a Jeff Van Gundy hahaha!!!

Mayabang na yn si Pingris now that he's connected with the EAT BULAGA Sottos.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: jonjon on Sep 05, 2013 at 08:47 AM
i hate to say it......but yes, i agree with you. more than the outdated strategy, Jawo is not his old self anymore. he may inspire and motivate the players but coaching wise, i don't think he still has it. one incident that eroded my confidence in Jawo was when he was being interviewed on radio during fiba-asia. he was incoherent, and his answers were unresponsive to the questions thrown at him.

The Big J returning to BGK will be guaranteed blockbuster but wont bring in the championship/s.

The Ron Jacobs system has long been outdated, what more of Jawo's gung-ho, bahala-na-si-batman style?

Sadly, those schools of coaching will look lost in today's fast-paced offenses and zone defenses.

Call me crazy, but a Yeng Guiao-coached BGK ....... that's a contender right there.

A Tim Cone-coached PETRON ....... you can start counting the championships.

Pwede na din si coach Leo Isaac or si Frankie Lim.  Mahina nga si Ato.  Pati naman nung si Chua, mahina din.  Walang play ang ginebra.  Tapos parang takot sila ke Caguioa at Helterbrand, kaya walang teamwork.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: VenoM_Unleashed on Sep 05, 2013 at 08:51 AM
I felt like I was watching the UFC when I saw the replay of the incident last night. Siguro fans din ng UFC 'yung mga players and coach involved sa brawl. Doon palang sa mga import evident na 'yung UFC moves, Blakely took Hayes to the ground with his aikido throw-down, Hayes elbowed Blakely, then Pingris boxed Nabong and Nabong gave Pingris a flying knee and Coach Tim wrestles Nabong. Mixed Martial Arts 'di ba?  ;D

Mainit talaga si Pingris, doon pa lang sa FIBA Asia, may mga naka-girian na din sya eh, hindi nga lang natuloy mag away.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: 2fast2furious on Sep 05, 2013 at 08:56 AM
Mayabang na yn si Pingris now that he's connected with the EAT BULAGA Sottos.
mayabang na sya nuon pa. grabe na ngayon.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 05, 2013 at 09:02 AM
Tapos parang takot sila ke Caguioa at Helterbrand, kaya walang teamwork.

Yup ...... I've always said that Caguioa is the star that broke BGK.

Cant deny his talent for scoring and his heart for the game ...... but he has long hindered BGK's winnability with his style of play e.g. mid-to-far jumpers mostly on an early shotclock, etc.

How many times have fans seen Caguioa pull-up for a longshot with nary a look at his teammates movements, positions or the time at the shotclock?

Coaches have come and gone for BGK, yet no one was able to mold Caguioa into a well-rounded star.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 05, 2013 at 03:16 PM
A clearer video can be found here: http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/full-video-san-mig-coffees-marc-pingris-globalports-kelly-nabong-fight

Nakakaaliw si James Yap. Sumimple na naman. Tinulak si Nabong kaya ayun, nadaganan si Tim Come.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Chain on Sep 06, 2013 at 05:13 AM
A clearer video can be found here: http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/full-video-san-mig-coffees-marc-pingris-globalports-kelly-nabong-fight

Nakakaaliw si James Yap. Sumimple na naman. Tinulak si Nabong kaya ayun, nadaganan si Tim Come.

haha natawa ako dun
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: anya618 on Sep 06, 2013 at 10:28 AM
Pingris, Devance, Nabong suspended; Hayes fined (http://sports.inquirer.net/117951/pingris-devance-nabong-suspended-hayes-fined)  ::)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 06, 2013 at 10:48 AM
Mayabang na yn si Pingris now that he's connected with the EAT BULAGA Sottos.

baka lumaki ang ulo dahil performance nya sa laban sa korea nung fiba
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Waxx on Sep 06, 2013 at 10:51 AM
i got a chance to watch globalport practices during my 7 month acl rehab at ateneo gym.. medyo mainit talaga si nabong... kahit sa practice may mga incident na nakipag away sya.. kay adducul ata yun...

pero i think passionate lang sya or fiery player..
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Chorus on Sep 06, 2013 at 11:04 AM
Pingris, Devance, Nabong suspended; Hayes fined (http://sports.inquirer.net/117951/pingris-devance-nabong-suspended-hayes-fined)  ::)

laking kawalan to sa SMC naghahabol pa naman sila sa standing
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Sep 06, 2013 at 03:41 PM
No official trade yet, but Asi Taulava invited to join Air 21 practice (http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/no-official-trade-yet-but-asi-taulava-invited-to-join-air-21-practice)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Sep 06, 2013 at 09:29 PM
Air21 obtains taulava for mike cortez
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 07, 2013 at 08:36 PM
Pingris, Devance, Nabong suspended; Hayes fined (http://sports.inquirer.net/117951/pingris-devance-nabong-suspended-hayes-fined)  ::)

As expected Comm. Cheato Salud strikes again ...... only 2-games suspension for what Marc Pingris did ??

Consider that Don Allado was suspended for an entire conference just for his rants on twitter!

I tell you, if this was a non-SMCorp player, it's guaranteed that the suspension would be much, much longer than that.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Sep 07, 2013 at 09:26 PM
As expected Comm. Cheato Salud strikes again ...... only 2-games suspension for what Marc Pingris did ??

Consider that Don Allado was suspended for an entire conference just for his rants on twitter!

I tell you, if this was a non-SMCorp player, it's guaranteed that the suspension would be much, much longer than that.


and mark caguioa was fined only 20k (or was it 25k?), also for his rants on twitter regarding lousy officiating.  :D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: retro12195 on Sep 07, 2013 at 09:29 PM
Air21 obtains taulava for mike cortez
next week nasa GINEBRA na si ASI >:D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mattia on Sep 08, 2013 at 08:40 AM
Globalport owner Mikee Romero confirmed that Nabong is indeed into Mixed Martial Arts.  Hence, his unusual moves and fighting skills. Delikado pala si Pingris dito kung hindi na naawat.

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: retro12195 on Sep 08, 2013 at 11:38 AM
next week nasa GINEBRA na si ASI >:D
http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/air-21-open-to-talk-to-ginebra-about-asi-taulava-but-not-until-after-philippine-cup
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 09, 2013 at 08:14 AM
http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/air-21-open-to-talk-to-ginebra-about-asi-taulava-but-not-until-after-philippine-cup

Sobrang garapalan ano ...... harap-harapan linoloko nang SMCorp & Lina/Chua (and Comm. Cheato Salud) ang basketball fans.


Well, at least tatagal si Asi Taulava nang 3 games with AIR21 - the number of remaining games they have before, being eliminated this season.

When Joe Devance was traded by ALASKA to AIR21, he lasted all of 2 practices before being sold este "traded" to BMEG.  ;)

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: retro12195 on Sep 09, 2013 at 09:08 AM
talo GINEBRA kagabi... biyahe kaya or BOBO ang COACH >:D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: wengkapre on Sep 09, 2013 at 09:19 AM
dun ako sa huli brader  :P
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Sep 09, 2013 at 07:56 PM
talo GINEBRA kagabi... biyahe kaya or BOBO ang COACH >:D

dun ako sa huli brader  :P

ah........may coach pala sila?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Chain on Sep 10, 2013 at 01:56 AM
ah........may coach pala sila?

haha.un din alam ko eh.kala ko sila sila lang na mga players nag oorchestrate ng play nila
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: rony on Sep 10, 2013 at 07:18 AM

Sobrang garapalan ano ...... harap-harapan linoloko nang SMCorp & Lina/Chua (and Comm. Cheato Salud) ang basketball fans.


Well, at least tatagal si Asi Taulava nang 3 games with AIR21 - the number of remaining games they have before, being eliminated this season.

When Joe Devance was traded by ALASKA to AIR21, he lasted all of 2 practices before being sold este "traded" to BMEG.  ;)



Malaki ba kinikita ng farm teams sa ganyang mga trade? Parang walang intensyon mag manalo ah.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 10, 2013 at 08:13 AM
Malaki ba kinikita ng farm teams sa ganyang mga trade? Parang walang intensyon mag manalo ah.


Back in 2009, then perennial MVP-contender Arwind Santos was traded by Bert Lina to SMCorp ...... it's an open secret that P20M was the fee for the sale este "trade".

That Arwind Santos trade was just one of many grossly lopsided deals made by Lina/Chua with their SMCorp masters.

Right of the bat ...... Enrico Villanueva, Kerby Raymundo, Marc Pingris, Joe Devance, Cyrus Baguio, Alex Cabagnot, Mike Cortez, Niño Canaleta, Chris Lutz, Dylan Ababou, Allain Maliksi, Marc Barroca, JC Intal, Rabeh Al-Hussaini, Noy Baclao, Rey Guevarra, Billy Mamaril, Doug Kramer, Aldrech Ramos, Homer Se, Dondon Hontiveros, Dorian Pena, Mike Holper, etc, etc, etc, etc ...... and still many more to come.

Above are just straight trades ...... they do not even include the draft rights (slots) which are also being sold este traded by the Lina/Chua group e.g. Junemar Fajardo, John Wilson, Jimbo Aquino, etc.

Ever wonder why top teams PETRON, SMC & BGK still land high in the draft order year after year ??

There's still more ...... COKE/POWERADE was also engaged in serious lopsided deals with SMCorp e.g. Hatfield, Reavis, Mamaril, Lassiter, etc.

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 10, 2013 at 08:31 AM
Back in 2009, then perennial MVP-contender Arwind Santos was traded by Bert Lina to SMCorp ...... it's an open secret that P20M was the fee for the sale este "trade".

That Arwind Santos trade was just one of many grossly lopsided deals made by Lina/Chua with their SMCorp masters.

Right of the bat ...... Enrico Villanueva, Kerby Raymundo, Marc Pingris, Joe Devance, Cyrus Baguio, Alex Cabagnot, Mike Cortez, Niño Canaleta, Chris Lutz, Dylan Ababou, Allain Maliksi, Marc Barroca, JC Intal, Rabeh Al-Hussaini, Noy Baclao, Rey Guevarra, Billy Mamaril, Doug Kramer, Aldrech Ramos, Homer Se, Dondon Hontiveros, Dorian Pena, Mike Holper, etc, etc, etc, etc ...... and still many more to come.

Above are just straight trades ...... they do not even include the draft rights (slots) which are also being sold este traded by the Lina/Chua group e.g. Junemar Fajardo, John Wilson, Jimbo Aquino, etc.

Ever wonder why top teams PETRON, SMC & BGK still land high in the draft order year after year ??

There's still more ...... COKE/POWERADE was also engaged in serious lopsided deals with SMCorp e.g. Hatfield, Reavis, Mamaril, Lassiter, etc.



Even though they knew that the PUBLIC was aware of these tremendous swapping and mixing up of players, they just dont care!
It only proves kung wala sila wala din ang PBA.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Chain on Sep 14, 2013 at 01:01 AM
wawa naman TNT ko.dame nang talo
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 15, 2013 at 03:40 AM
ROS got jobbed by the PBA last night against BGK ...... nothing new if you're up against an SMCorp team.

Let the players decide the game - has been a long time mandate of Comm. Cheato Salud, yet when SMCorp is involved, its null and void e.g. Bowles anyone?

Last nights game had the refs blowing the whistle on an iffy last-second shot by Baracael.

To make things worse, the refs AND take officials review the time left ....... yet they STILL got it wrong (0.3 sec instead of 1+ sec).

PBA Commentator Jason Webb said it best ....... it's totally inexcusable if you get things wrong after a video review.

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 15, 2013 at 11:40 AM
Yeah, ROS got robbed. It was a clear block and the body contact was negligible. The same kind of plays were never called before. Yung kay Caguioa nga in that game vs Alaska had more contact than this one and it wasn't called a foul. As one ROS official said, "Parang sindikato na ito."
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Sep 15, 2013 at 09:53 PM
There was definitely a clear contact which affected Baracael's shot...

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2855/9759391785_5a45f29de8.jpg)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 16, 2013 at 02:30 AM
^ That's iffy for me ...... like @bored posted earlier, during the last BGK-ALA-BGK game, Mark Caguioa had a last-second shot that was also contested and definitely had much more contact than this one.

What's appalling about that BGK-ROS last-second shot ...... not only was it iffy, the foul was called way LATE, it's as if the referee (who blew the whistle) was also milking the clock for ROS to have no shot when they get the ball back.

I had thought (same as everybody, including Jason Webb) that the clock review got it wrong - more time should have been left for ROS ...... it turns out the scenario was worse, since 0.3 sec remaining on the shot-clock was due to the LATE call of that referee.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Sep 16, 2013 at 08:20 AM
perhaps we are looking at it at the wrong perspective >:D

perhaps the non-call on the last second shot by Caguioa in the Alaska-Ginebra, where there was more contact, was an incorrect decision by the referees.

perhaps the call on the Baracael shot, during the ROS-Ginebra game, was the right decision though a bit late.

two "wrongs" don't make it "right". You don't repeat what you did wrong just to be consistent.

perhaps.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Sep 16, 2013 at 08:49 AM
An iffy foul will not affect a shooters shot...
If its too obvious the referee should call it kahit dying seconds pa yan because that's part of the game...
Belga decided the game for RoS not the refs...
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 16, 2013 at 09:37 AM
perhaps we are looking at it at the wrong perspective >:D

perhaps the non-call on the last second shot by Caguioa in the Alaska-Ginebra, where there was more contact, was an incorrect decision by the referees.

perhaps the call on the Baracael shot, during the ROS-Ginebra game, was the right decision though a bit late.

two "wrongs" don't make it "right". You don't repeat what you did wrong just to be consistent.

perhaps.

Caguioa's last-second shot had more contact, but it was because he was trying to draw contact with his release ....... Baracael was trying to draw contact (with his left arm) as well.

The very late call was dubious ...... it was late by more than a second.

Also, this particular referee was cited by the entire ROS management as having made similar past dubious calls on them as well.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: rukawakaide1721 on Sep 16, 2013 at 05:29 PM
PBA Players : kita kitz tayo sa world cup 2014 sa Spain...Renaldo Balkman

after his failure stint in PBA...nakabawi na siya sa recently concluded FIBA America 2013... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_FIBA_Americas_Championship)

nasa mythical 5 pa siya...after Puerto Rico placed 1st runner-up...
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 18, 2013 at 10:04 PM
wawa naman TNT ko.dame nang talo

They took the worst hit from the FIBA Asia and they're now feeling it. Physically and emotionally drained na yung main gunners nila. They clearly haven't recovered yet. I haven't seen TNT lose 4 straight games in years. They should just regroup next season. Tumatanda na rin kasi yung core nila.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 20, 2013 at 11:14 PM
Hey Comm. Cheato Salud ....... SMC just beat MERALCO, 88-87, with yet another controversial ending.

With a few seconds remaining in the game and SMC up by 1 point, MERALCO import Mario West attempts a desperation 3-pointer but was clearly fouled by SMC import Marcus Blakely.

Result ? ........ no foul was called by any of the referees.

It's funny, but just a few games ago, BGK was in the exact same scenario as MERALCO - yet their opponent was called for a questionable foul.

How come, MERALCO wasn't given the same treatment ? 

"That's what I'm talking about, baby."
- Tim Cone, Ex-ALASKA head-coach & current SMC head-coach

"That's B.S. .... hindi ganito ang officiating nung nasa PUREFOODS pa ako."
- Ryan Gregorio, Ex-PUREFOODS head-coach & current MERALCO head-coach


"Taena .... ganito pala kapag wala ka na sa poder ni Daddy Danding."
- Jong Uichico, Ex-SMB head-coach & current MERALCO assistant-coach
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: frequenzy on Sep 21, 2013 at 12:54 AM
I've watched the game, I don't think it was a clear foul. West wasn't expecting Blakely kaya na off-balance siya. I would say it's a 50/50.

As for Baracael shot, Belga clearly didn't foul him :)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 21, 2013 at 01:57 AM
Here's a video of that Meralco-San Mig endgame. At the 2:14 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxR4D0bjkqs

Blakely clearly jumped into West's left arm kaya nawala yung bola. Interestingly enough, the same referee who called the foul on Belga was also officiating that game earlier.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 22, 2013 at 04:01 PM
that is why i dont watch PBA anymore, waste of time na lang eh, saka na lang pag iba na comm or wala ng san miguel
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Sep 22, 2013 at 08:53 PM
ginebra lost by 15 points. tnt was just 8 points shy of eliminating ginebra which, despite a very strong line-up, fares poorly.

just a playful thought....could they be doing it on purpose? po they could go up in the rookie draft? they are unofficially at the third spot in the drafting order. sanggalang, slauhter and parks are the top three picks so far. doing well this conference could make them slide to number 4. they did it once already, and managed to pick marlou aquino. they sure could do it again.

as i've said...just a playful thought.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Sep 22, 2013 at 09:49 PM
ginebra lost by 15 points. tnt was just 8 points shy of eliminating ginebra which, despite a very strong line-up, fares poorly.

just a playful thought....could they be doing it on purpose? po they could go up in the rookie draft? they are unofficially at the third spot in the drafting order. sanggalang, slauhter and parks are the top three picks so far. doing well this conference could make them slide to number 4. they did it once already, and managed to pick marlou aquino. they sure could do it again.

as i've said...just a playful thought.

They're picking high in the draft because of the pick they got from Air21. How they perform this conference won't affect their draft order. Ma-eliminate sila or mag-champion man sila, walang epekto sa kanila yun. Yung performance ng Air21 ang kanilang basis.

Ginebra will most likely have one of the top 3 picks this coming draft especially now that Air21 has been eliminated. San Mig (from Global) and Rain or Shine (from Barako) will have the other 2 picks. The chance of Ginebra getting the 1st overall pick is slim compared to San Mig and ROS but the 3rd overall pick is not bad given that 3 solid big men are in the pool. Parks isn't confirmed to join the draft so the top names will be Slaughter, Sangalang and Almazan.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 23, 2013 at 02:03 AM
Yup, it's AIR21's performance that will bring in the high-draft pick to BGK ........ same as SMC (who'll rely on GLOBAL's 2-last place finishes this season).

Note: As usual, this was SMCorp handiwork ..... getting high picks from their farm teams, aside from their bluechip players.

Jaworski's BGK was probably the last team to TANK almost an entire season ...... indeed, it was extremely obvious thay wanted Marlou that year. IIRC, Yeng Guiao also tanked a conference hoping to catch-up on BGK's losses.

Besides, there has been no more need for any SMCorp team to tank ...... they just need to use any of their 3 farm teams (AIR21, BARAKO & GLOBAL) and voila, you have your bluechip rookie in an instant e.g. Barocca, Lassiter, Lutz, Ababou, Maliksi, Fajardo, Mallari, Al-Hussaini, Baclao, Guevarra, etc.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Sep 23, 2013 at 11:03 AM
They're picking high in the draft because of the pick they got from Air21. How they perform this conference won't affect their draft order. Ma-eliminate sila or mag-champion man sila, walang epekto sa kanila yun. Yung performance ng Air21 ang kanilang basis.

Yup, it's AIR21's performance that will bring in the high-draft pick to BGK ........ same as SMC (who'll rely on GLOBAL's 2-last place finishes this season).

yeah....figured it out way too late to edit my post. :)

anyway, to the quarterfinals or to the quarters tonight for TNT and BGK.

Jaworski's BGK was probably the last team to TANK almost an entire season ...... indeed, it was extremely obvious thay wanted Marlou that year. IIRC, Yeng Guiao also tanked a conference hoping to catch-up on BGK's losses.

we were really laughing that time. we knew that those losses were intentional, some fans were just not able to see it. IIRC, Jaworski was even assaulted by a fan because of their very poor "performance". the guy landed in jail and was visited by no less than the victim, Jawo.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 23, 2013 at 05:26 PM
kahit naman magaling na players makuha mo sa draft kung palpak ang coach mo, mapagsamantala ang management mo at mapag imbot, pupulutin ka din sa kangkungan.

san miguel Teams have always fallen short of the championship despite loading all its team with championship caliber players, baka tadhana na ang nag papakita  ng resulta ng ginagawa nila.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: wengkapre on Sep 23, 2013 at 05:52 PM
Quote
anyway, to the quarterfinals or to the quarters tonight for TNT and BGK.

The Ginebra-TNT do-or-die game was reset due to heavy rains & flooding in the metro...it will be played
on tuesday @ 7:15pm
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: VenoM_Unleashed on Sep 24, 2013 at 09:59 AM
The Ginebra-TNT do-or-die game was reset due to heavy rains & flooding in the metro...it will be played
on tuesday @ 7:15pm


Mamayang gabi na 'to, sana mapanood ko.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: VenoM_Unleashed on Sep 25, 2013 at 09:55 AM
Nice game last night. BGK eliminated TNT. Muntik na nanaman mahabol ng tuluyan 'yung 21 pts na lamang ng BGK. The rebounds kept BGK alive, Tinyente had 24 points, 10 assists while Ellis finished the game with 19 points and 12 rebounds.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: vinci on Sep 26, 2013 at 01:06 AM
nice game between alaska and san mig coffee. come from  behind win by alaska lead by jv and cyrus. do or die on friday.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Kd Jb on Sep 26, 2013 at 08:37 AM
(http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/8422/s3y.png) (http://img545.imageshack.us/i/s3y.png/)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: VenoM_Unleashed on Sep 27, 2013 at 12:32 PM
Olats na BGK, sayang 'yung hinabol nilang lamang ng Petron, kinapos sila, naubusan ng energy lalo na 'yung import nila si Lowhorn ni hindi na makatalon. Injured pa si Mark Caguioa, hindi pa daw masyadong magaling 'yung left knee nya, kagabi 'yung right knee naman ang na injured.  :(
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Sep 27, 2013 at 05:33 PM
yeah...double whammy for the gin kings. still, they almost won it last night. it was a very painful injury for caguioa, figuratively speaking --- injury on a slippery floor. ni hindi man lang dahil sa gulang ng kalaban. good thing, though, is that the injury came at the tail-end of their campaign. caguioa has all the time he needs to heal. same with kerby and japeth. bad news: ato will still be their coach next season.

on another note, it just occurred to me --- the other series is a rematch of pala. SanMig Coffee vs. Alaska, except that last conference was the semis. same scenario, though. SanMig having the upperhand (and considered as sure to advance) with Alaska pulling an upset. the twice-to-beat advantage of SanMig is gone, with alaska winning their initial encounter. will they be able to make a repeat tonight? if SanMig wins, Arwind might get the MVP award since it will adversely affect Abueva's chances.

well....i don't think abueva will win it also even if they advance to the semis, or even to the finals. media and player votes will most likely  go against him. but i'm sure, he will get the ROY award.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 27, 2013 at 05:57 PM


if SanMig wins, Arwind might get the MVP award since it will adversely affect Abueva's chances.

well....i don't think abueva will win it also even if they advance to the semis, or even to the finals. media and player votes will most likely  go against him. but i'm sure, he will get the ROY award.

Spot on ...... even if ALASKA wins it all this conference with Abueva averaging a quadruple-double per game - he WON'T win the MVP award.

Even if Abueva hits a half-court shot at the buzzer every game - he WON'T win the MVP award.

The only way that Abueva wins the MVP ...... a.) He is traded to an SMCorp team very soon ...... b.) He somehow proposes to Kris Aquino during halftime of a playoffs game (has happened before, right?)

If there's one more great evil about this SMCorp empire, it's that they control the every voting party there is for the season-ending awards.

They control the PBA board, they control the player votes (heck, they got 6/10 teams in the PBA) and they also control the media votes ....... last season, Gary David had an epic efficient year, even making the Finals - yet he was beaten by Caguioa who didn't even make a single Finals appearance the whole season.

To make it worse for David, even Arwind Santos got ahead of him in the last years voting.

I'd say that this year's MVP will likely be disputed by Arwind, LA and Abueva (pa-consuelo-de-bobo).

The sad thing is, among the 3, Abueva has clearly made the biggest impact to his respective team and to the league in general ...... not to mention that he can create his own shot, something which a stat-stuffer like Arwind cannot do.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 27, 2013 at 06:04 PM
By the way, I half-expect that the ZEBRAS will somehow be "extra-active" in tonight's ALASKA-SMC knockout game.

Every major player from ALASKA was in foul trouble last game ...... I expect something similar (and others) tonight.  ;)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: vinci on Sep 27, 2013 at 06:06 PM
By the way, I half-expect that the ZEBRAS will somehow be "extra-active" in tonight's ALASKA-SMC knockout game.

Every major player from ALASKA was in foul trouble last game ...... I expect something similar (and others) tonight.  ;)

1st half pa lang dami na fouls e.hahha..buti na lang di naconvert mga free throws..22/40 yata sila.
go alaska!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Sep 27, 2013 at 07:02 PM
The only way that Abueva wins the MVP ...... b.) He somehow proposes to Kris Aquino

that is why James Yap will never become an MVP again. :P
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 27, 2013 at 09:08 PM
As expected ...... the ZEBRAS are on "target" on this ALA-SMC knockout game.

Mckinnis has played practically all game in the paint ...... I can't recall him getting a foul from his defenders. He's getting hacked yet the zebras just watch.



Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: frequenzy on Sep 27, 2013 at 11:41 PM
it looks like yun talaga ang strategy ni trillo towards blakely, he mentioned that he is a beast but he needs to make freethrows

smc 24/41
alaska 21/36
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Sep 28, 2013 at 02:41 AM
who won?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Chain on Sep 28, 2013 at 02:55 AM
who won?

San Mig by 10
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Sep 28, 2013 at 03:00 AM
thanks!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 02, 2013 at 09:47 PM
Junemar Fajardo is starting to show what he's capable of. Instead of losing confidence after a dismal performance in the FIBA-Asia, Fajardo has been showing how good he can be if given the chance to do so. He's been very impressive this conference and just played his best game tonight. If he keeps this up and his coaches continue to feature him, he'll dominate the league. May skills talaga eh. Maganda footwork and has a decent mid-range game. Gumaganda na rin depensa niya.

His emergence, a healthy Lassiter and an unselfish import in Millsap are the reasons why Petron is on a 10-game winning streak and is the favorite to win the championship.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: edrel sison on Oct 03, 2013 at 11:17 AM
i just hope junemar would improve his toughness on the defensive end. offensively he should be able to develop more power and add semi hooks to his arsenal. dunk the ball more often junemar!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 03, 2013 at 08:53 PM
Dunking is easier said than done, moreso for most of the bigs ...... they may be tall, but they have limited hops and relatively slow on the gather.

Besides, Junemar borders a bit more on finesse rather than power - has always been even during his collegiate days ...... that kind of shooting touch is rare for guys that big.

Not to say that he lacks in strength, he is very strong ...... but his strength lies in the space that he occupies and his weight. He doesn't even have to throw his weight around, just his sheer size alone can create scoring spots for himself.

As for defense, he's coming along slowly ...... which isn't much of a problem (yet) since most defenses nowadays are team-based e.g. zones, high-traps, quick rotations, switches, etc.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: edrel sison on Oct 04, 2013 at 08:08 AM
yes he got limited hops. regarding strength, it was already beau belga who said from their last game that it is very difficult now to guard junemar because of his sheer size and power, no question his offense is now very fluid.

from an inside source at the gilas NZ camp, it was actually junemar who almost got booted out from the fiba asia final 12 and the coaching staff are in unison that his achiles heel was his defense. and it showed in the recent manila tournament. i was worried then that he will lose his confidence and stagnate his growth.

now that he is getting the minutes i am glad that he is performing well. many people are very happy for him and at long last he is becoming the kraken the fans percieve him to be.

but i wont call him the kraken yet not unless i see him monstrously block shots and taking the ball stronger up to the hoop and smash it in! ;D ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: frequenzy on Oct 04, 2013 at 10:20 PM
smc leads the series 2-1

what a solid game by mallari, he and barroca was very steady until the end. bad news for meralco if west cant play next game.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 11, 2013 at 09:43 PM
Gary "El Granada" David and AJ Mandani to MERALCO BOLTS

Chris Ross, Chris Timberlake to GLOBAL PORT

Global Port also gets Meralco's 2016 & 2017 2nd Round Draft picks
Title: PBA Season 38
Post by: crazyhog on Oct 11, 2013 at 10:15 PM
Ginebra got the first pick followed by San Mig. Who will be the no.1 pick? Slaughter or SangalanG?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 13, 2013 at 01:41 AM
A couple more years under Danny Ildefonso at Petron and Norman Black at Gilas and we'll be seeing more of this from Junemar Fajardo. I don't think I've seen a pinoy player as big as Junemar dunk like that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytUClAJzCTI
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 13, 2013 at 07:38 AM
So, BGK wins the draft lottery ...... technically, AIR21 won the draft it since it's a perennial loser.

However, this is Comm. Cheato Salud's PBA where SMCorp controls 3 elite teams and 3 farm teams, thus the 1st overall pick belongs to BGK.

As for the 2nd pick? ...... it should have been GLOBALPORT's, but it's long been guaranteed to an elite team as well in SAN MIG COFFEE.

See how the PBA works ..... it's been that way for many, many years now.  ;)

===============================================================================

Sangalang or Slaughter for BGK?

It doesn't really matter who BGK picks, since the ball almost always end up with Mark Caguioa.

I've long said that Mark Caguioa is the one who makes and breaks BGK ....... he's all heart and plays hard - yet his style of play was never one to promote ball movement and sharing. To be fair to Caguioa, he has adjusted somewhat, but it's too little too late.

Should BGK pick Sangalang (as what news reports indicate), I can guarantee that SMC's Tim Cone will be the most happiest dude come draft night.

Tim Cone has always pined for a decent traditional big to anchor his triangle ..... someone he can mold to play the role that Poch Juinio and Sonny Thoss played on 13 championships with ALASKA ....... someone with decent post skills, nice stroke and more importantly, tall enough to see the triangle movement and make that pass that gets them the best shot.

Greg Slaughter has been in Tim Cone's crosshairs for years now.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 14, 2013 at 03:44 PM
Meralco just blew up the team that made it to the semis. They had another trade. Si Franz Pumaren naman, tuloy pa rin ang pagkuha sa mga dating La Salle players niya. Air21 just got Cardona. Si Al-Hussaini at Baclao naman, palipat-lipat lang.

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/al-hussaini-moves-from-tnt-to-meralco-as-air21-lands-cardona-in-complex-three-team-trade-v02
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Oct 14, 2013 at 04:05 PM
Meralco just blew up the team that made it to the semis. They had another trade. Si Franz Pumaren naman, tuloy pa rin ang pagkuha sa mga dating La Salle players niya. Air21 just got Cardona. Si Al-Hussaini at Baclao naman, palipat-lipat lang.

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/al-hussaini-moves-from-tnt-to-meralco-as-air21-lands-cardona-in-complex-three-team-trade-v02

TnT got Rob Reyes, Baclao, Salamat and Air 21's 2nd round rookie draft pick in 2015. They lost Husseini, Raymundo and Gamalinda.

Air 21 got Cardona, Raymundo and Gamalinda. They lost Reyes, Omolon, Salamat, and a 2nd round rookie draft pick in 2015.

Meralco got Husseini and Omolon. They lost Cardona and Baclao.

Who's the winner here?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 14, 2013 at 05:12 PM
It's a breath of very rare fresh air when you see a PBA trade which isn't lopsided ....... I'd say that this was a relatively fair trade for all parties - even the salaries seem to even out.

It's no coincidence that SMCorp wasn't involved in this fair trade, right?

** MERALCO is shallow at the post, heck their top post guy is an aged, yet still effective Hugnatan ...... Hussaini & Omolon will bring a very slight upgrade.

Besides, Cardona has been "loony" for the past few seasons now - a reunion with his old coach could bring him back to his senses ....... matagal nang basang-basa ang signature drive-to-the-left-then-spin-right-hook-shot niya eh. Franz Pumaren is decent enough to recognize this ...... Ryan Gregorio will forever be inept and should immediately be elevated as MERALCO spokesperson. 

** TnT has always valued cohesion ...... Rob Reyes goes back to his rookie team, while Black gets his old mates Baclao & Salamat back.

It's a good thing that they still have Alapag & Castro ...... an Eric Salamat & Jai Reyes backcourt doesn't exactly strike fear to the other teams.  ;)

** Franz Pumaren continues with his DLSU nostalgia tour ....... I cant blame him though, it's the only thing that he can and is allowed to do by Pimp-Daddies Bert Lina & Lito Alvarez.

Prime blue-chip players are for their SMCorp masters only.

Like I've said, you'll find a picture of Franz Pumaren in the dictionary, under the word IRONY ...... the corrupt padrinos that helped him in UAAP, are the same ones who work against him in the PBA.  ;)

Effin wow !!!  ..... Gamalinda, Pamboy, Menor & Arboleda in one team?!! Si Tubid na lang ang kulang and it's a lawsuit waiting to happen !!!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: a2 on Oct 14, 2013 at 05:18 PM
A couple more years under Danny Ildefonso at Petron and Norman Black at Gilas and we'll be seeing more of this from Junemar Fajardo. I don't think I've seen a pinoy player as big as Junemar dunk like that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytUClAJzCTI

that was a nasty dunk. ang layo pa ng take off. didn't know he had some hops.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Oct 15, 2013 at 07:55 PM
trade rumor: Ginebra's Kerby Raymundo to Meralco Bolts in exchange for Jay-R Reyes.

(sana isama na ng ginebra si urbiztondo sa trade na ito.....o sa ibang trade :P )
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: beknat on Oct 16, 2013 at 09:25 AM
hindi kaya maging EJ Feihl lang si Greg Slaughter?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 16, 2013 at 01:15 PM
hindi kaya maging EJ Feihl lang si Greg Slaughter?

EJ had his best days under Cone kung di ako nag kakamali, kaya kung kay Cone mapunta si Slaugther, mukhang may mararating
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Oct 16, 2013 at 01:49 PM
EJ had his best days under Cone kung di ako nag kakamali, kaya kung kay Cone mapunta si Slaugther, mukhang may mararating

EJ had his best days under Jaworski. doon sya na-develop ng husto. and if i remember correctly, he and Marlou Aquino were the special assignments of Philip Cezar.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Oct 16, 2013 at 02:42 PM
EJ had his best days under Jaworski. doon sya na-develop ng husto. and if i remember correctly, he and Marlou Aquino were the special assignments of Philip Cezar.

A couple more years under Danny Ildefonso at Petron and Norman Black at Gilas and we'll be seeing more of this from Junemar Fajardo. I don't think I've seen a pinoy player as big as Junemar dunk like that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytUClAJzCTI

At San Mig, Slaughter would have Patrimonio to teach him aside from the current bigs, Devance, Pingris, Reavis and Yancy De Ocampo.  He would have no one to learn from at Ginebra.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 16, 2013 at 06:41 PM
EJ had his best days under Jaworski. doon sya na-develop ng husto. and if i remember correctly, he and Marlou Aquino were the special assignments of Philip Cezar.

di ba gumaling si EJ nung si Cone nag coach sa kanya sa National Team ba yun? o mali ang aking memorya?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Oct 16, 2013 at 09:58 PM
1998 sya naging part ng national team. at that time, nasa purefoods sya. after that, he went back to ginebra (then known as gordon's gin boars and won a championship with the team). 2002 sya naglaro for alaska.

and basing from this --

http://www.pba-online.net/profile/EJ-Feihl/329/ (http://www.pba-online.net/profile/EJ-Feihl/329/)

he had better numbers with ginebra.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 16, 2013 at 10:43 PM
1998 sya naging part ng national team. at that time, nasa purefoods sya. after that, he went back to ginebra (then known as gordon's gin boars and won a championship with the team). 2002 sya naglaro for alaska.

and basing from this --

http://www.pba-online.net/profile/EJ-Feihl/329/ (http://www.pba-online.net/profile/EJ-Feihl/329/)

he had better numbers with ginebra.

ayossss
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: wengkapre on Oct 17, 2013 at 09:48 AM
snow badua ‏@snowbadua 3h

Tagay tayo ng stainless. Ito pulutan. Specialty ng Cebu. Pritong baboy
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 17, 2013 at 01:54 PM
The Annual Awards will be tomorrow. It looks like Arwind Santos will bag the MVP. Abueva is already out of the running for the MVP. Santos, Castro and Tenorio na lang ang maglalaban. Unless bigyan ng consideration ng voters yung Gilas campaign nina Castro at Tenorio, Arwind will win his 1st MVP award.

Sa ROY naman, humahabol na si Fajardo. His performance this conference, especially in the Finals, has really bolstered his campaign for the ROY award. I wouldn't even be surprised if he wins it lalo na at maraming galit kay Abueva.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: oznola on Oct 17, 2013 at 07:29 PM
Bakit parang may pakiramdam ako na may mga higher entities na nag mamaniobra ng series to reach game 7?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 17, 2013 at 10:15 PM
the kind of championship where its like your watching a scripted movie.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: garee on Oct 17, 2013 at 10:27 PM
if it goes 2-2 tomorrow, alam na!
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: beknat on Oct 18, 2013 at 08:43 AM
yung hindi nga sister company ang naglalaban pinapaabot na nila sa game 7, lalo na siguro ngayon na sister company ang magkalaban.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 18, 2013 at 08:16 PM
Arwind Santos it is. May MVP na rin siya. It was the closest MVP race ever, though. Santos had a total of 2840 and Tenorio had 2819. Abueva naman won the ROY. And for the first time in years, I agree with the Mythical First Team choices. Santos, Abueva, Ranidel De Ocampo, Tenorio and Castro. Those guys really played the best this season.

Punta naman tayong draft. Lots interesting names in the pool now that the deadline has passed. Jeric Teng has joined. Romeo decided to forgo his last year with FEU to join. Kasama uli niya si RR Garcia. Atenoeo's Nico Salva, Ryan Buenafe and JP Erram have joined as well. Pati si LA Revilla ng La Salle humabol na rin. The top 3 picks are most likely going to be Slaughter, Sangalang and Almazan.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: oznola on Oct 18, 2013 at 08:51 PM
the kind of championship where its like your watching a scripted movie.

napaka uncharacteristic ng nilaro nung petron last time. next game pag yung san mig naman ang naging ganun e alam na talaga.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 18, 2013 at 09:22 PM
This series is seriously unbelievable. Napaka-obvious naman ng ginagawa nila. Petron has been consistently blowing past it's opponents this conference. They've won games by an average of 14pts. They just massacred San Mig in Game 3 nung Wednesday, winning by 22pts. Tapos ngayon they're down 23pts at the half?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: a2 on Oct 18, 2013 at 09:59 PM
ayun dikitan na yung laban para di naman daw gaanong halata.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ivannn on Oct 18, 2013 at 11:17 PM
grabe. kala ko matatalo pa ang san mig kanina. si james yap almost airballed his 1st free throw.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Oct 19, 2013 at 10:32 AM
This series is seriously unbelievable. Napaka-obvious naman ng ginagawa nila. Petron has been consistently blowing past it's opponents this conference. They've won games by an average of 14pts. They just massacred San Mig in Game 3 nung Wednesday, winning by 22pts. Tapos ngayon they're down 23pts at the half?

Petron's starting point guard, Cabagnot is out with an injury,. His reliever, Lanete is still recovering from an injury. Miranda has not been given much playing time under Abanilla. Hubalde is good for a few minutes mostly at scrub time. It is understandable if they played without cohesion during the first half.

Petron has not won a championship with these group of players. I doubt they would play around with their chances since San Mig is a very dangerous opponent. Abanilla is a rookie head coach. If he wants to stay as head coach then he must win the championship or else suffer the same fate as Racela. May pride din naman ang players. If there are machinations going on, it would probably be with the referees.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 19, 2013 at 11:19 AM
Petron's starting point guard, Cabagnot is out with an injury,. His reliever, Lanete is still recovering from an injury. Miranda has not been given much playing time under Abanilla. Hubalde is good for a few minutes mostly at scrub time. It is understandable if they played without cohesion during the first half.

Petron has not won a championship with these group of players. I doubt they would play around with their chances since San Mig is a very dangerous opponent. Abanilla is a rookie head coach. If he wants to stay as head coach then he must win the championship or else suffer the same fate as Racela. May pride din naman ang players. If there are machinations going on, it would probably be with the referees.

Petron played without Cabagnot in Game 3 and they demolished San Mig by 22 points. They led all game. Millsap started at point guard then Miranda and Hubalde took turns after. Lanete didn't even play in that game yet they never had problems running their plays. So clearly, the absence of Cabagnot isn't that much of a factor. Even that Game 4 last night showed that the loss of Cabagnot really doesn't matter much. Nahabol agad nila yung lamang 3rd Quarter pa lang. Lumamang pa nga sila. They're clearly the better team so there's no reason for them to be down so big.

And in a Finals game, no one bothered to remind Petron players that they still had a timeout left when Mallari was taking a free throw with 3 seconds left?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Oct 19, 2013 at 12:02 PM
Petron played without Cabagnot in Game 3 and they demolished San Mig by 22 points. They led all game. Millsap started at point guard then Miranda and Hubalde took turns after. Lanete didn't even play in that game yet they never had problems running their plays. So clearly, the absence of Cabagnot isn't that much of a factor. Even that Game 4 last night showed that the loss of Cabagnot really doesn't matter much. Nahabol agad nila yung lamang 3rd Quarter pa lang. Lumamang pa nga sila. They're clearly the better team so there's no reason for them to be down so big.

And in a Finals game, no one bothered to remind Petron players that they still had a timeout left when Mallari was taking a free throw with 3 seconds left?

Milsap starting at point took San Mig by surprise, which resulted in the game 3 blow-out. Tim Cone made some  adjustments and these definitely affected Petron's play during the 1st quarter. Petron is definitely the better team, thus they were able to regroup and come back from a big deficit. It is just a matter of one team making adjustments and the other team making their own adjustments. To insinuate that these players and coaches are involved in a conspiracy to extend the series to a game 7, imho, has no basis, sister teams or not. A lot of players and coaches from both teams would have to be involved. Now if it is the referees we are talking about, then it is a different matter. ;)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 19, 2013 at 11:30 PM
There is no massive conspiracy to rig games, like what was seen during the 80's .... but it's clear that there the rigging has evolved into other forms.

Before, it was pretty much gambling which had players rigging some games.

Nowadays, it's corporate one-upmanship driving some team officials to "convince" some refs to favor certain teams ...... not to mention teams winning/losing for the sake of sister teams (both conglomerates are guilty) placing ...... it's selective, but its still there.

The mere fact alone that there are 3 teams under one corporation is grounds enough to suspect some form of manipulation - not to mention these 3 teams hoard blue-chip players and share them amongst themselves. Oh, and these 3 teams use farm teams as well.

If some teams blatantly rig the draft (there are many ways this is being done right now), maintain farm teams, maintain ULTRA-loaded teams and still claim to be under-the-salary-cap ....... it's not far-fetched that they rig results of some games, right?

I had a friend who is a cousin to the No.2 guy of arguably the most glamorous team ever seen in the PBA ....... my friend always relays No.2's betting tips PRIOR to an important game (semis, Finals, etc) and he was always spot on.

When No.2 says not to bet on his team for a particular game, he was always right.

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The upcoming PBA draft is obviously deep, but it's not top-heavy like the 2011 draft. There are many good role-role-players which can be had from the 2nd round e.g. Vidal, Melton, Fortuna, etc. 

Seriously, Comm. Cheato Salud should convince his SMC masters to allow league expansion (2 more teams) ...... there will never be a shortage of talent for any local basketball league, the PBA included.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Wiggum on Oct 22, 2013 at 08:03 AM
OT: Pinoy Hoops premiered last night on National Geographic. It's a very entertaining documentary (3 parts) on the Philippines' obsession with basketball, hosted by Rafe Bartholomew (Pacific Rims). Must see TV if you're a basketball nut. Mondays, 9PM.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: hotrod on Oct 22, 2013 at 02:02 PM
Ginebra sending Kerby Raymundo to Meralco for JR Reyes in one-on-one trade

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/ginebra-sending-kerby-raymundo-to-meralco-for-jr-reyes-in-one-on-one-trade-v02 (http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/ginebra-sending-kerby-raymundo-to-meralco-for-jr-reyes-in-one-on-one-trade-v02)
http://www.solarsportsdesk.ph/bk/bknews/2013/10/22/pba-trade-barangay-ginebra-s-kerby-raymundo-dealt-to-meralco-for-jay-r-reyes (http://www.solarsportsdesk.ph/bk/bknews/2013/10/22/pba-trade-barangay-ginebra-s-kerby-raymundo-dealt-to-meralco-for-jay-r-reyes)

Approved Trade as of October 22, 2013: 1.Barangay Ginebra San Miguel acquired the rights to JR REYES; 2. Meralco Bolts acquired the rights to KERBY RAYMUNDO

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rq7hkt (http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rq7hkt)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 22, 2013 at 06:45 PM
wala na bang value si Kerby sa BGK? bakit na trade? eh yung JR Reyes wala naman di ba?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 22, 2013 at 06:52 PM
Honestly, it's a very good trade for BGK ....... losing Kerby frees up minutes for Japeth, Maierhofer & whoever BGK picks between Sangalang & Slaughter.

For all his talents, all hope of ball movement and passing is lost when Kerby has the ball ....... patay palagi ang bola kay Kerby. He needs the ball for a long time to get his points.

Getting the inept JR Reyes is just trade-filler and insurance, in case Maierhoffer gets injured again.

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Kerby Raymundo going to MERALCO validates yet again what a fraud coach Ryan Gregorio is.

Ryan Gregorio has no long-term plan and just gets players left & right every conference, hoping to hit the jackpot.

For such a young franchise, MERALCO has been blessed with many quality players e.g. Cardona, Mercado, Taulava, Buenafe, Hugnatan, Ross, Belga, Omolon, Isip, Ritualo, Borboran, Macapagal, Lanete, etc. yet no success.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 22, 2013 at 10:15 PM
Honestly, it's a very good trade for BGK ....... losing Kerby frees up minutes for Japeth, Maierhofer & whoever BGK picks between Sangalang & Slaughter.

For all his talents, all hope of ball movement and passing is lost when Kerby has the ball ....... patay palagi ang bola kay Kerby. He needs the ball for a long time to get his points.

Getting the inept JR Reyes is just trade-filler and insurance, in case Maierhoffer gets injured again.

==========================================================================

Kerby Raymundo going to MERALCO validates yet again what a fraud coach Ryan Gregorio is.

Ryan Gregorio has no long-term plan and just gets players left & right every conference, hoping to hit the jackpot.

For such a young franchise, MERALCO has been blessed with many quality players e.g. Cardona, Mercado, Taulava, Buenafe, Hugnatan, Ross, Belga, Omolon, Isip, Ritualo, Borboran, Macapagal, Lanete, etc. yet no success.

there was a point in time that Omolon was playing big already bakit bigla na ding nawala?

and i thought Asi would play for BGK?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: beknat on Oct 23, 2013 at 08:06 AM
dahil sa trade na nangyari siguro si Ian Sangalang ang kukunin ng Ginebra.
mas naging maganda roster nila ngayon, kasi si Kerby medyo tumatanda na, at medyo may pagkabuhaya minsan. atleast pwede pa maturuan si JR Reyes habang bata pa. pag naging mala-Sonny Thoss yan patay na.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Oct 23, 2013 at 10:35 AM
dahil sa trade na nangyari siguro si Ian Sangalang ang kukunin ng Ginebra.
mas naging maganda roster nila ngayon, kasi si Kerby medyo tumatanda na, at medyo may pagkabuhaya minsan. atleast pwede pa maturuan si JR Reyes habang bata pa. pag naging mala-Sonny Thoss yan patay na.

Feel ko rin si Sangalang ang kukunin ng Ginebra. Syempre may kasama ng manipulations para makuha ni Cone si Slaughter. Pero si Agustin pa naman ang coach ng Ginebra at ang gusto ni Agustin ay yung mga hindi takot makipagpalitan ng mukha lalo na sa ilalim. Kung napansin ninyo nung last conference, nababad si Mamaril bago na-injury. Babad rin si Wilson kahit na ilang taon na rin siyang linalait at gustong ma-itrade ng mga die-hard "kuno" na mga Ginebra fans. Tamang-tama si JR Reyes sa tipo ng player na gusto ni Ato. Kung matatandaan napagchampion ni Ato ang Petron nung panahon na ang mga natirang big players niya, maliban kay Santos at Ildefonso na malapit ng magretire, ay mga role players lamang gaya nina Pennisi, Baclao at Rob Reyes. Kaya di nalalayong si Sangalang ang kunin ng Ginebra.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: retro12195 on Oct 24, 2013 at 10:37 AM
Slaughter is better than Sangalang :o
http://www.philstar.com/sports/2013/10/22/1248141/choosing-center-barangay-ginebra
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Oct 24, 2013 at 11:43 AM
Honestly, it's a very good trade for BGK ....... losing Kerby frees up minutes for Japeth, Maierhofer & whoever BGK picks between Sangalang & Slaughter.

For all his talents, all hope of ball movement and passing is lost when Kerby has the ball ....... patay palagi ang bola kay Kerby. He needs the ball for a long time to get his points.

Getting the inept JR Reyes is just trade-filler and insurance, in case Maierhoffer gets injured again.

agree. add the fact the Kerby has been getting injured every now and then, trading him is a good decision. sana lang isinama na nila si urbiztondo.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 24, 2013 at 03:03 PM
I think Ginebra would and should pick Greg Slaughter as No. 1 overall. It's because of Fajardo. Given how great Fajardo has been this conference, especially in the Finals, it will be hard for Ginebra to pass on Slaughter. Fajardo is averaging 18.5pts and 14.5rebs (5 offensive) per game in the Finals against SanMig's Pingris, De Ocampo, Reavis and Devance. Slaughter could be as good or better than that. Something hard to walk away from.

His potential to be as good as Fajardo is greater than him becoming like Feihl, even without the tutelage of a premier big man. Natuto na rin kasi siya under Norman Black. Even the stints he had with the 2 Gilas teams under Toroman and Reyes have helped his game. He has more upside than downside.

Ang magiging problema ng Ginebra is the management. Kung gusto ng mga bosses na sa San Mig si Slaughter, wala silang magagawa. The coaches really have no say when it comes to player recruitment ng San Miguel teams.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: frequenzy on Oct 25, 2013 at 10:35 PM
san mig wins game 7. pingris dominated inside and played outstanding defense against milsap. what a game!

19 pts, 17 rbs, 5blks naalala ko tuloy yung gilas.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 25, 2013 at 10:35 PM
Champion na San Mig Coffee
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 25, 2013 at 10:48 PM
The missed FT's aside, PETRON coach Gee Abanilla lost Game7 for his team ....... SMC's defense can see PETRON's offense a mile away.

PETRON practically ran just 2 plays all game long ....... dump it to Fajardo OR isoball for Milsap. Even in the 2nd half when SMC simply crowded either Fajardo or Milsap, Gee Abanilla never adjusted.

PETRON needs to do a hundred more blatantly lopsided trades to win that elusive championship.

Tawagan na ang BARAKO BULL ...... 3 ang 1st round pick nang farm team #1 ng SMCorp.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: jhelenz on Oct 25, 2013 at 11:09 PM
it seems it was only millsap and and fajardo who wants to win,santos was another no show in this game (in fairness as was james yap who missed 2 crucial ft's that could've iced the game).i don't know if coach gee was to blame or the other superstars on that team (except for cabagnot who seems to be not 100%).props goes to blakely and pingris.special mention should go to de vance,simon and ydo for those crucial plays.great defense by petron,i think the game changer was the foul trouble of millsap.congrats to san mig and my fave coach tim cone
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 25, 2013 at 11:46 PM
The missed FT's aside, PETRON coach Gee Abanilla lost Game7 for his team ....... SMC's defense can see PETRON's offense a mile away.

PETRON practically ran just 2 plays all game long ....... dump it to Fajardo OR isoball for Milsap. Even in the 2nd half when SMC simply crowded either Fajardo or Milsap, Gee Abanilla never adjusted.

PETRON needs to do a hundred more blatantly lopsided trades to win that elusive championship.

Tawagan na ang BARAKO BULL ...... 3 ang 1st round pick nang farm team #1 ng SMCorp.

Trade na lang uli nila si Arwind kay Ping. ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: jhelenz on Oct 25, 2013 at 11:48 PM
The missed FT's aside, PETRON coach Gee Abanilla lost Game7 for his team ....... SMC's defense can see PETRON's offense a mile away.

PETRON practically ran just 2 plays all game long ....... dump it to Fajardo OR isoball for Milsap. Even in the 2nd half when SMC simply crowded either Fajardo or Milsap, Gee Abanilla never adjusted.

PETRON needs to do a hundred more blatantly lopsided trades to win that elusive championship.

Tawagan na ang BARAKO BULL ...... 3 ang 1st round pick nang farm team #1 ng SMCorp.
imo what petron is set on all positions right now.what they need is chemistry para maging familiar sila sa isat isa.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: jhelenz on Oct 25, 2013 at 11:49 PM
Trade na lang uli nila si Arwind kay Ping. ;D
or let tim cone coach them
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 26, 2013 at 05:40 AM
Comparing Sangalang and Almazan is more interesting.
I'll pick Almazan over Sangalang coz of Almazan's great shot blocking abilities and his intensity.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Oct 26, 2013 at 07:41 AM
The missed FT's aside, PETRON coach Gee Abanilla lost Game7 for his team ....... SMC's defense can see PETRON's offense a mile away.

PETRON practically ran just 2 plays all game long ....... dump it to Fajardo OR isoball for Milsap. Even in the 2nd half when SMC simply crowded either Fajardo or Milsap, Gee Abanilla never adjusted.

PETRON needs to do a hundred more blatantly lopsided trades to win that elusive championship.

Tawagan na ang BARAKO BULL ...... 3 ang 1st round pick nang farm team #1 ng SMCorp.

it seems it was only millsap and and fajardo who wants to win,santos was another no show in this game (in fairness as was james yap who missed 2 crucial ft's that could've iced the game).i don't know if coach gee was to blame or the other superstars on that team (except for cabagnot who seems to be not 100%).props goes to blakely and pingris.special mention should go to de vance,simon and ydo for those crucial plays.great defense by petron,i think the game changer was the foul trouble of millsap.congrats to san mig and my fave coach tim cone

To say that only Fajardo and Milsap wanted to win would be disrespect to the Petron players. They played their hearts out and followed Abanilla's instructions. As early as the 2nd quarter, it was obvious that their main play was dropping the ball to Fajardo. If that didn't materialize then Milsap would try to drive in.

Fajardo may be big and strong but he is not that quick. He may have good footwork but he does not have an explosive first step which could leave his defenders behind. It was very easy for San Mig's players to clog the lane  once Fajardo received the ball down low. Fajardo has yet to develop passing skills like Ildefonso.

Milsap is quick but not that strong. He could not bulldoze his way to the basket. He almost always found himself in trouble when driving to the basket. He had to work hard just to get by the gauntlet of defenders put up against him. And at the end, it seemed that the pressure of the situation got to him.

With the offense focused on Fajardo and Milsap, Arwind Santos' offensive game was nowhere in sight. Santos cannot drive to the basket like Lassiter can. He needs to be set up for his jump shots. But in this championship series, he barely got the ball when he was free and where he could be effective. There were lots of instances where he never even got to hold the ball in their offense. He  also gets his points from offensive putbacks, but against Blakely and Pingris, who are monster rebounders, and Devance and Yancy de Ocampo, who excel in boxing out, it was very difficult for him.

But the real game changer was Abanilla's decision to shorten the rotation. Fajardo was sapped making him miss free throws. Lassiter was getting frustrated and was at the point of losing control emotionally. Cabagnot could hardly run and yet he still played a lot of minutes. Santos was spent trying to contain Blakely all night long. Tubid , Kramer, Lutz saw limited playing time. At the end, San Mig had the fresher players.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: jhelenz on Oct 26, 2013 at 09:21 AM
well i meant no disrespect to petron players that's why i said i don't know who's to blame.masyado nga nagrely si abanilla dun kay fajardo and millsap.it's a mystery na sa dinami dami ng good players na nakuha ng petron thru trade e kay millsap and fajardo lang naka focus yung offense nila.sabi nga ni coach chot before the game,the x factor could be denok miranda (if he gets playing time) but yun nga di naman sya pinasok ni abanilla.problema kasi ng petron papalit palit na ng players,madalas din sila magpalit ng coach.
kabado pa naman ako nung una as a sanmig fan kasi mataas madalas yata matalo ng mga rookie coach si tim cone (reyes and gregorio if i'm not mistaken) sa finals.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Oct 26, 2013 at 12:05 PM
well i meant no disrespect to petron players that's why i said i don't know who's to blame.masyado nga nagrely si abanilla dun kay fajardo and millsap.it's a mystery na sa dinami dami ng good players na nakuha ng petron thru trade e kay millsap and fajardo lang naka focus yung offense nila.sabi nga ni coach chot before the game,the x factor could be denok miranda (if he gets playing time) but yun nga di naman sya pinasok ni abanilla.problema kasi ng petron papalit palit na ng players,madalas din sila magpalit ng coach.
kabado pa naman ako nung una as a sanmig fan kasi mataas madalas yata matalo ng mga rookie coach si tim cone (reyes and gregorio if i'm not mistaken) sa finals.

Matagal nang assistant coach si Abanilla sa Petron kahit nung San Miguel Beer pa sila. Kaya parang Jong Uichico/Siot Tanquincen din ang style. Dahil sa tagal niya bilang assistant coach kilala niya lahat ng players luma man o bago. Kaya lang obvious na nangangapa siya lalo na pag pinapakita yung time-out huddle nila. Pero in fairness, walang reklamo ang mga players niya sa role nila at sa playing time nila sa team di gaya nung si Racela. Siguro dahil na rin coach ang pagkakakilala ng mga players sa kanya di tulad ni Racela na nakalaro pa ang iba niyang mga players kaya siguro malakas ang loob ng iba na magreklamo sa playing time nila.

Malaking bagay siguro kung pinasok ni Abanilla si Miranda. Pero mukhang wala siyang tiwala kay Miranda o sa tingin niya ay di bagay ang estilo ng paglalaro ni Miranda sa sistema niya. Ano man ang dahilan, tapos na ang labanan. Champion pa rin ang San Miguel, di na nga lang beer. ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 26, 2013 at 12:13 PM
Like I said, majority of the blame should be placed on Gee Abanilla ....... a Fajardo or Milsap isoball can get you places, but Tim Cone is too good a coach not to adjust quickly.

Some blame should also be placed on the SG's Lassiter, Lutz & Tubid ...... they suddenly went gun-shy during the 2nd half, even when SMC the defense was religiously sagging on Fajardo and Milsap.

Another season finished in Comm. Cheato Salud's PBA ....... looking forward to the upcoming rookie draft - an opportunity for rookies to make it to the big league and the farm-teams (BARAKO, AIR21 & GPORT) to make millions once again.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: retro12195 on Oct 27, 2013 at 12:35 PM
Slaughter to GINEBRA :D
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/332719/sports/basketball/pba-slaughter-to-ginebra-team-manager-chua-tweets-welcome-to-our-family
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mikz023 on Oct 27, 2013 at 12:48 PM
Slaughter to GINEBRA :D
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/332719/sports/basketball/pba-slaughter-to-ginebra-team-manager-chua-tweets-welcome-to-our-family

Just as expected. Then sanggalang will go the the mixers while almazan on RoS.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Chorus on Oct 27, 2013 at 06:18 PM
(http://imageshack.us/a/img10/1792/grlk.png)

hindi kukuha ang Petron???
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: rukawakaide1721 on Oct 27, 2013 at 07:00 PM
how about ERVIC VIJANDRE? san team siya puede???
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: retro12195 on Oct 27, 2013 at 07:14 PM
(http://imageshack.us/a/img10/1792/grlk.png)

hindi kukuha ang Petron???
Salva and Buenafe sure sa First Round :D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 27, 2013 at 07:18 PM
Simula na naman ang SMC?

http://www.philstar.com/sports/2013/10/27/1250079/emman-monfort-ginebra

Anyway, here's how I see the draft going on November 3:

(http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz198/b-filmmaker/The2013PBAMockDraft.png)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: retro12195 on Oct 28, 2013 at 08:27 AM
Nate Matute's highlight :o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKQ4nopcwbk
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mikz023 on Oct 28, 2013 at 09:04 AM
Mock draft by interaksyon

http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/2013-pba-mock-draft-version-1-0
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 28, 2013 at 10:37 AM
The 1st 9 picks of the 2013 PBA draft are more or less penciled in ...... some of my two-cents.

** BGK fans should temper their expectations - Greg Slaughter isn't EJ Feihl, but he isn't Marlou Aquino either.

Slaughter will likely struggle within his first season adjusting to the pro game ...... the scientific/rough defenses nowadays, having many ball-centric teammates and his own limitations will make for a rough 1st year.

** Ian Sangalang is best served anywhere but SMC ...... alpha scoring bigs has little place in Tim Cone's triangle offense (moreso with Devance still there).

** RR Garcia ending up with BARAKO is a win-win situation ....... Garcia will become the legitimate lead PG for a ragtag BARAKO team ...... BARAKO ends up with another asset to SELL to its mother SMCorp a few conferences later.

** Terrence Romeo = Hero-Ball = Rajko Toroman going back to Europe
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: jhelenz on Oct 28, 2013 at 01:10 PM
i also have doubts if sangalang will fit tim cone's triangle offense.on the bright side,he is a low post player (something a triangle offense needs).if he can pass the ball well that will be great.if smcm draft's him he will surely spend more time on the bench since he can't practice that much with the team kasi ilang weeks lang umpisa na naman ng conference
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: crazyhog on Oct 28, 2013 at 01:24 PM
Triangle offense will benefit a good passing big man. If Sangalang has it, im sure he will fit well  sa system ni Tim Cone. Pero mahirap pag aralan ang triangle offense kaya mejo d kaagad mababad.
 
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 28, 2013 at 02:02 PM
I think Sangalang is the perfect big man for San Mig Coffee. Among the crop of big men in the upcoming draft, he's the most adaptable. He can play alongside more dominant players but he can be the focal point of the offense as well. He doesn't really need the ball to make an impact. He's a great rebounder and a decent enough defender.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Oct 29, 2013 at 10:11 PM
there could be a change in either the 4th, 5th or 6th team to pick.

rumors are flying that barako and ginebra are involved in talksfor a trade for, most likely, the sixth pick. either that, or the monfort trade mentioned above.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 30, 2013 at 04:18 PM
The claims that Barako is an SMC team will be validated if what's written here is indeed true.

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/rajko-toroman-left-in-shock-after-getting-fired-as-barako-bull-consultant-v02

"As news of Toroman's sudden exit spread, sources have told Spin.ph that Leo Austria, coach of San Miguel's ABL team, and Petron manager Siot Tanquingcen are among those being considered for the job.

Another source has confirmed that Koy Banal, one of Gee Abanilla's assistant coaches at Petron, is also set to move to the George Chua-owned ballclub."


And Barako is now officially open for business for the 2013-2014 season.

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/source-barako-to-trade-no.-4-pick-to-ginebra-for-abalou-fifth-pick-to-petron-for-subs-v02

You give up getting the likes of Romeo, Forrester, Teng and Garcia for scrubs like Isip and Sison, the oft-injured Ababou who you traded away already and a 32yr old PG in Miranda?

Dapat siguro i-lifestyle check 'tong George Chua at mga Lina. Di naman siguro sila nagbabayad ng tax dun sa kinikita nila sa mga trade na 'to.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 30, 2013 at 05:42 PM
Yet more news validating SMCorp's open-secret of owning BARAKO BULL ........

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/source-barako-to-trade-no.-4-pick-to-ginebra-for-abalou-fifth-pick-to-petron-for-subs-v02

If this holds true, soooooobrang garapalan for nth time.

** BARAKO to trade 4th pick to BGK for Dylan Ababou
** BARAKO to trade 5th pick to PETRON for ..... wait for it ....... Mark Isip & Magi Sison


Note that Ababou, Isip & Sison were all members of the BARAKO teams just a few conferences ago, before they were dealt to SMCorp teams as part of lopsided trades.

The cycle continues on and on and on and on ........ bravo Comm. Cheato Salud.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: rony on Oct 30, 2013 at 06:50 PM
Hehe kaya siguro tinanggal na si toroman para wala ng reklamo maririnig. Me salary cap kaya yun mga SMC teams?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 30, 2013 at 07:06 PM
....... Me salary cap kaya yun mga SMC teams?

Walang sinusunod na salary cap ang SMCorp teams ...... honestly working under the annual salary cap (IIRC it's 20+M annually), would allow PBA teams only 2-3 players to receive approximately maximum salary.

A team like SMC has stars such as Yap, Pingris, Simon, Devance, Reavis, Maliksi, etc - all known to receive max or near max salaries ....... no way in hell that team management can fit all of these salaries (plus others on the roster) under the cap.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: painted_black on Oct 31, 2013 at 05:17 PM
Walang sinusunod na salary cap ang SMCorp teams ...... honestly working under the annual salary cap (IIRC it's 20+M annually), would allow PBA teams only 2-3 players to receive approximately maximum salary.

A team like SMC has stars such as Yap, Pingris, Simon, Devance, Reavis, Maliksi, etc - all known to receive max or near max salaries ....... no way in hell that team management can fit all of these salaries (plus others on the roster) under the cap.


Wala silang balak sumunod sa salary cap ang SMCorp teams dahil ang goal lang nila makakuha ng championship crown.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: rony on Oct 31, 2013 at 06:36 PM
Yet nun nasa alaska pa si tim cone at uytengsu very vocal siya pagdating sa isyu ng salary cap.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Oct 31, 2013 at 07:30 PM
Barako's Monfort traded to Ginebra for Labagala

http://sports.inquirer.net/126965/barako-gets-labagala-ginebra-acquires-monfort-in-pba-trade (http://sports.inquirer.net/126965/barako-gets-labagala-ginebra-acquires-monfort-in-pba-trade)
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/10/31/13/barako-bull-trades-monfort-labagala (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/10/31/13/barako-bull-trades-monfort-labagala)
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/333366/sports/basketball/pba-ginebra-acquires-emman-monfort-sends-barako-rob-labagala (http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/333366/sports/basketball/pba-ginebra-acquires-emman-monfort-sends-barako-rob-labagala)
http://www.spin.ph/sports/pba/news/barako-bull-pulls-off-another-stunner-with-monfort-trade-to-ginebra (http://www.spin.ph/sports/pba/news/barako-bull-pulls-off-another-stunner-with-monfort-trade-to-ginebra)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Chorus on Oct 31, 2013 at 07:59 PM
bakit kailangan pa i-trade si Monfort kung kapalitan lang din naman ay Point Guard lalo na maganda yung last performance niya. Ok pa sana kung kasama yung turn sa next year na draft. Paano magiging competitive yung team ng Barako kung ganyan din naman ang management.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mikz023 on Oct 31, 2013 at 09:10 PM
^maski nga un coach ng barako hndi nya alam un trade na yan. nalaman lng nya s spin.ph. how weird it is.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Oct 31, 2013 at 09:30 PM
when will ginebra trade urbiztondo?
Title: Re: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: SiCkBoY on Nov 01, 2013 at 11:29 AM
Yet nun nasa alaska pa si tim cone at uytengsu very vocal siya pagdating sa isyu ng salary cap.

Yes, and that is well-documented in Rafe Bartholomew's book, Pacific Rims.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 01, 2013 at 01:41 PM
Yet nun nasa alaska pa si tim cone at uytengsu very vocal siya pagdating sa isyu ng salary cap.

Exactly ..... like I've posted a hundred times here, Tim Cone was a major critic of the way SMCorp operates in the PBA - from their unfair trade practices to their "paid" referees ....  a few times he has even told media that he doubts certain game results when their SMCorp teams play against each other.

Tim Cone blasted SMCorp when BARAKO released then top PG Urbiztondo to the reserved list, then was "conveniently" picked-up by then BMEG.

Of course all of this was before he got employed by SMCorp as SMC head coach. ;)

Since then, he has presided over many lopsided deals e.g. Barocca from BARAKO, Maliksi from BARAKO, Urbiztondo back to BARAKO for a 1st round pick! (how's that for going full-circle), etc ...... not to mention being the beneficiary of referees "help" during many crucial games.

Tim Cone will probably go down as the greatest to ever coach in the PBA ..... if there's a public vote, he'll defintely get my vote.

Tim Cone is the greatest hypocrite in the PBA as well ..... he'll get my vote as well.  ;)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Nov 03, 2013 at 12:27 AM
it is really hard to criticize if your eyes are blocked by the peso sign...

*****

rookie draft in a few hours. i think slaughter is going to be the top pick, especially since Sanggalang was officially measured at just 6'6". sabi nga ni Jawo "you can't teach height". But i don't think slaughter, or any of the other bigs in the top three for that matter, will flourish under a coach like ato, who becomes effective only with  players whose potentials have already been tapped. the san miguel team he coached became champions because the players were good...the players made ato a champion coach, and not him making a champion team.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Nov 03, 2013 at 01:25 AM
it is really hard to criticize if your eyes are blocked by the peso sign...

*****

rookie draft in a few hours. i think slaughter is going to be the top pick, especially since Sanggalang was officially measured at just 6'6". sabi nga ni Jawo "you can't teach height". But i don't think slaughter, or any of the other bigs in the top three for that matter, will flourish under a coach like ato, who becomes effective only with  players whose potentials have already been tapped. the san miguel team he coached became champions because the players were good...the players made ato a champion coach, and not him making a champion team.

I totally disagree with this. Petron mostly had role players in that team. They went to the finals that conference not because their players were good. It was because TNT chose them.

That Petron team wasn't teeming with stars like the Petron or Ginebra teams now. They had guys like Duncil, Salvacion, Pennisi and Hubalde playing significant minutes. Guys like Yeo, Washington and Al-Hussaini were injured then. Ato made that lineup work against a TNT team laden with stars and coached by Chot Reyes. Not many coaches could have done the same at that time.

Ato is not a bad coach. Yung system niya lang works best when players have their roles set. Something that doesn't work in teams where almost every player is a star and scorer.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 03, 2013 at 06:02 AM
Indeed, that PETRON team was more about role-players e.g. Pennisi & Duncil were very valuable during that run ....... partly accidental due to their many injuries that conference.

TnT did choose PETRON (ALASKA and one other team had the same record), partly to blame then was a very flawed quotient system ...... it's a good thing that the PBA board has since implemented the knockout-game rule to break certain ties.

However, TnT also had key people who got injured and/or broke down towards the end of the conference e.g. Reyes, Dillinger, Castro, etc.

Also, a major reason for PETRON winning was the the import Grundy ...... IMO Grundy was one of the best ever from this import height limit (6'5" below). Whatever PETRON needed, he provided (very similar to old SLR import Damien Owens).

Ato Agustin is old-school coaching. He's not part of that long outdated Ron Jacobs-fraternity of coaches. However, Ato is still evolving as a PBA coach ...... the main knock on him has been his tendency to always rely on a short rotation.

Tim Cone also works on a short rotation - but the difference is Tim Cone has his team always sharing and moving the ball via his triangle offense ....... BGK on the other hand, has more than a few ball-centric/hogging players e.g. Caguioa, Tenorio, Helterbrand, etc.

=============================================================================

It's another PBA draft day today ...... where the ultra-elite teams get stronger and their farm-teams get richer.

Manood para makita ang harap-harapang garapalan na gagawin nang SMCorp and Bert Lina-teams.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Nov 03, 2013 at 05:26 PM
1st Round

[Ginebra] Greg Slaughter
[San Mig] Ian Sangalang
[RoS] Raymond Almazan
[Ginebra] James Forrester (to Ginebra from Barako for Maeirhofer/Wilson)
[Global] Terrence Romeo (to Petron from Barako for Sison/Isip then from Petron to Global for Taha)
[Global] RR Garcia (to Global from Barako for Denok Miranda)
[Global] Isaac Holstein
[Alaska] Ryan Buenafe
[RoS] Alex Nuyles
[San Mig] Justin Chua

2nd Round

[Global] Nico Salva
[RoS] Jeric Teng
[San Mig] Justin Melton
[Barako] Jeric Fortuna
[TNT] JP Erram (to TNT from Alaska)
[Air21] Eric Camson
[TNT] Robby Celiz
[Alaska] Chris Exciminiano
[RoS] Gayford Rodriguez
[Barako] Carlo Lastimosa

*Romeo, Garcia and Salva in one team. That's going to be interesting.
*Surprised that Teng dropped to the 2nd round. But still good that he went to RoS.
*RoS getting quality picks without going through lopsided trades. Dami na rin nilang Chinese.

3rd Round (not televised)

[Air21] Joshua Webb
[Global] Jopher Custodio
[Barako] Darwin Cordero
[Global] LA Revilla (this pick & Ginebra's 2016 & 2017 2nd rd for Global's 2014 1st rd))
[Petron] Sam Marata
[Meralco] Anjo Caram
[TNT] Eliud Poligrates
[Alaska] Raymund Ilagan
[RoS] Ervic Vijandre
[San Mig] JR Cawaling

4th Round (not televised)

[Global] --Pass--
[Air21] Angelo Ingco
[Barako] Jett Vidal
[Ginebra] John Usita
[Petron] Nate Matute
[Meralco] Mark Parala
[TNT] Chris Sumalinog
[Alaska] --Pass--
[RoS] --Pass--
[San Mig] --Pass--

*That 3rd round Ginebra-Global trade could be interesting. If Global still performs badly this season, Ginebra has a shot at another lottery pick.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mikz023 on Nov 03, 2013 at 05:57 PM
wla na bang 3rd round?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 03, 2013 at 06:01 PM
** Right on cue, Bert Lina starts his annual PBA draft firesale ...... getting Maierhoffer/Wilson/Sison/Isip/Miranda in exchange for 3 future franchise players.

What's always overlooked in every lopsided trade, BARAKO is taking in more salary (a cumulative amount of more than 1M/month) in exchange for prime rookies whose total 1st year salary would just be around 400k/month ....... sino ba ang nagpapatakbo sa BARAKO BULL?  ;)

** Literally a big surprise that ALASKA picked Buenafe ..... first off, they're shallow at SG. They've long needed a prime reliever for Baguio and a guy like Nuyles (or Teng) would have been the much better choice.

I like Buenafe for his IQ and his uncanny knack for hitting big shots and making the big plays ...... but that was all in the amateurs. Slow and plump is a bad combo in the PBA.

In many ways, a guy like Ken Bono had a better amateur career (awards, stats, etc) than Buenafe ...... look how that turned out for Bono.

I'm rooting for Buenafe (and ALASKA), but that conditioning is likely to bug him in his pro career.

** ROS with yet another great haul in the PBA draft ...... ROS already picked Almazan to add to an already quality frontline. Taking both Nuyles & Teng with late picks makes for a great night.

** BGK can draft or buy all the primetime rookies that they want ....... as long as (still) Mark Caguioa has the offensive reins, a championship will still likely elude them.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Nov 03, 2013 at 06:32 PM
wla na bang 3rd round?

not televised but I've updated my earlier post already to include the 3rd and 4th rounds.

for full results, check here:

http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/2013-pba-draft-results

Also, Enrico Villanueva was traded to Global for Willie Miller and Hans Thiele.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: the_w0rks on Nov 03, 2013 at 07:02 PM
Ganda pala ni Erika Padilla. Malusog na malusog.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/1002920_10151936864758405_1481205271_n.jpg)

Ginebra puro higante pinagkukuha pati nung after ng second round
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: steelcrazy on Nov 03, 2013 at 07:11 PM
Jeric Teng could be a perfect fit with Alaska at the off guard position.
At ROS there's Jeff Chan, Ryan Aranya, Chris Tiu so too many off guards to have sufficient playing time.
Perhaps Teng can be traded for Buenafe to benefit both teams.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Nov 03, 2013 at 07:34 PM
Jeric Teng could be a perfect fit with Alaska at the off guard position.
At ROS there's Jeff Chan, Ryan Aranya, Chris Tiu so too many off guards to have sufficient playing time.
Perhaps Teng can be traded for Buenafe to benefit both teams.

Teng won't be a perfect fit at Alaska. He's more potent in a free-wheeling system that RoS has. In a sort of triangle offense that Alaska runs, he's not going to be much of an impact player.

Yeng will be able to find playing time for Teng. Nagagamit nga niya sina Jaime at Uyloan, si Teng pa kaya.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Verbl Kint on Nov 04, 2013 at 06:51 AM
Jeric Teng would have been drafted higher had he played for either ADMU, DLSU, or San Beda.

Picking Sumalinog over Mike Silungan means school ties mean a heckuva lot.

Buenafe going to Alaska was definitely the surprise of the draft.

Romeo, RR Garcia, and Salva on one team can make for awkward practice sessions.

Terso should have been drafted. He's a hardworking kid.

Trinity U did not have a single player drafted.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 04, 2013 at 07:22 AM
How's this for showing the love for your ninong at SMCorp ..... Mikee Romero is a Danding/Ang lackey as well.

GLOBALPORT gives up a few future 2nd rounders for BGK's 2014 1st round draft pick

2nd round picks are almost always useless in a shallow draft ...... and giving up a 1st round pick in a potentially top-heavy draft featuring Parks, Banchero, Pringle, Tautaa, etc is ridiculous ..... or i$ it?  ;)


Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: SiCkBoY on Nov 04, 2013 at 10:12 AM
^Isn't that a good deal for Global Port?
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: deist on Nov 04, 2013 at 10:18 AM
Alaska picked Buenafe ahead of Salva & Jeric Teng, whaaatttt?????
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Nov 04, 2013 at 10:46 AM
^Isn't that a good deal for Global Port?

if i read the story right, it is not good for global port. they traded their first round pick for 2014 in exchange for the 2016 and 2017 2nd round picks of BGSM. so, this favors ginebra.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 04, 2013 at 10:49 AM
^Isn't that a good deal for Global Port?

My bad ... got the 2 teams mixed-up.

BGK gives up a few future 2nd rounders for GPORT's 2014 1st round draft pick

Ray Parks is the known commodity, yet a loaded PBA team would probably pick Banchero, Pringle or Tautaa ahead of him ...... the 2014 draft has the potential to be top-heavy.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Nov 04, 2013 at 11:04 AM
got curious with the forrester guy. searched some highlights of his and he seems good (well, what do you expect from highlights? ). one thing i can say ---- may kaagaw na si caguioa sa bola.  ;D


Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mikz023 on Nov 04, 2013 at 11:22 AM
Oh by the way will Ray Parks play his last season on UAAP next year?   
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: steelcrazy on Nov 04, 2013 at 12:27 PM
Teng won't be a perfect fit at Alaska. He's more potent in a free-wheeling system that RoS has. In a sort of triangle offense that Alaska runs, he's not going to be much of an impact player.

Yeng will be able to find playing time for Teng. Nagagamit nga niya sina Jaime at Uyloan, si Teng pa kaya.

On the contrary, Jeric will have more playing time with Alaska and the triangle offense will get him goin with his outside shooting due to proper spacing.
Anyway Alaska did get its chances to draft Jeric but they figured it out that Buenafe will benefit the team more than the other still undrafted players.
But come to think of it Ryan will also be good with the triangle coz of his passing skills and his trade mark of being a clutch player who is fearless to take the big shots when needed most.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 04, 2013 at 12:32 PM
Oh by the way will Ray Parks play his last season on UAAP next year?   

Should Ray Parks leave for the USA to follow his NBA dream, good for him and the rest of us ....... we need guys like him trying to break barriers - hopefully, the first Filipino to play in the NBA.

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 04, 2013 at 03:02 PM
Gotta give props to the RAIN or SHINE (RoS) team.

Much like ALASKA, RoS builds their team the right way - via the rookie draft, free-agency and legitimate trades; all the while following the league salary cap rules.

EXTRA-RICE Inc:  Belga-Quinahan-Cruz

YANG-CHOW RICE Inc:  Tiu-Tang-Teng-Lee-Chan (on the sidelines are Guiao, Jao, Que & Yu)

 ;D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Nov 04, 2013 at 03:46 PM
Gotta give props to the RAIN or SHINE (RoS) team.

Much like ALASKA, RoS builds their team the right way - via the rookie draft, free-agency and legitimate trades; all the while following the league salary cap rules.

EXTRA-RICE Inc:  Belga-Quinahan-Cruz

YANG-CHOW RICE Inc:  Tiu-Tang-Teng-Lee-Chan (on the sidelines are Guiao, Jao, Que & Yu)

 ;D

Sir NWB,
May news update na ba regarding Belga's new contract with RoS?
If I remember correctly, nag-decline ata siya sa previous offer ng Ros.
Thanks :)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 04, 2013 at 04:04 PM
Belga has already agreed to a new contract with RoS management ......... RoS didn't give him the max contract, but gave him a hefty pay increase compared to his old contract (near max for the 3rd & last year). 
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Nov 04, 2013 at 04:18 PM
That's good to know...
With Belga's current performance, he definitely deserves a better deal...
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: steelcrazy on Nov 04, 2013 at 05:58 PM
Belga has already agreed to a new contract with RoS management ......... RoS didn't give him the max contract, but gave him a hefty pay increase compared to his old contract (near max for the 3rd & last year). 

Belga has no where to go except to stay with ROS since he's given the minutes to improve his game which he did so of course an increase in salary is just worth it.
Champion team din naman ang ROS and always a contender so no better way to go except to stay put unless he's traded.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: garee on Nov 05, 2013 at 12:48 PM
ano nasa isip ng Barako?

http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/whats-up-with-barako-decision-to-trade-first-round-picks-raise-questions-as-fans-up-in-arms
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: SiCkBoY on Nov 05, 2013 at 01:02 PM
ano nasa isip ng Barako?

http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/whats-up-with-barako-decision-to-trade-first-round-picks-raise-questions-as-fans-up-in-arms

Eh di $$$
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: rony on Nov 05, 2013 at 01:19 PM
http://www.pba-online.net/pba/Meralco-Alaska-Rain-or-Shine-officials-plan-to-raise-Barako-trade-issue-in-PBA-board-meeting/33231/


Ayan nah.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: a2 on Nov 05, 2013 at 01:24 PM
taken from that interaksyon article

Quote
“It’s a collective decision. We want to get players whom we’ve seen playing in the PBA so we traded our rookie picks,” said the Barako Bull executive.

letting go of potential franchise/all-star players in favor of getting 3rd string players/benchwarmers who have barely even played the last few conferences. ibang klase, best front office in the league na 'to! smh.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Chorus on Nov 05, 2013 at 01:38 PM
and the trade of Monfort - Labagala also.

umalis tuloy si Coach Toroman hehehe
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 05, 2013 at 01:51 PM
One will run out of fingers when counting the number of grossly lopsided trades that BARAKO has done with SMCorp teams.

Just recently ...... BARAKO trades its top gun Allain Maliksi to SMC in exchange for absolute scrubs Wesley Gonzales & Cris Pacana.

It's long overdue that BARAKO & AIR21 fold-up and just leave the PBA.

PHOENIX Petroleum seriously wanted to enter the PBA a few seasons ago - only to be shot down by the PBA Board led by SMCorp and Bert Lina's franchise.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 05, 2013 at 07:55 PM
i wish we see the day that fans will be the one to drive changes in the PBA, I wish the day would come that  fans will not longer watch the games and air their side on this matter, until then the PBA will remain to be purely business in an out,
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Chorus on Nov 05, 2013 at 09:36 PM
Justin Chua & Leo Najorda(SMC) for Isaac Holstein (Global Port)

ok na din para mabigyan ng playing time former NCAA MVP (Najorda) and overloaded na din ang rooster ng SMC

Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: -sniper- on Nov 05, 2013 at 11:57 PM
madami naman na nakakapansin sa ginagawa ng San Miguel Corp. it's all over social media. may nag-raise pa ng incident about Barako Bull management being beholden to SMC because of the tie up they presently have (SMC distributing the products of Barako Bull) kaya "pumayag" ang barako bull na i-trade ang kanilang 4th, 5th and 6th first round draft picks. i just hope tablan ng hiya si Salud.

barako's move is, for me, beyond logic. giving up three talented rookies for bench warmers, ageing and oft-injured players. i could not convince myself that it is a build up.

Honestly, kahit na Ginebra fan ako, di ko din gusto how things were manipulated during the draft, and even before that, even if these manipulations favored BGSM. it's about time na i-limit ulit sa dalawa lang ang team ng isang corporation. noong araw, bihirang-bihira ang mga trades. ang kung magkaroon man, usually one is to one lang, or one player for one future draft pick. at least that's what i recall.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Nov 06, 2013 at 01:06 AM
I really hope that the board members from Alaska, Meralco, TNT and RoS would question the recent moves by Barako. Illogical talaga eh. They traded all their 1st rd picks but they used their 2nd-5th rd picks. They let Toroman go. They've got 27 players right now vying for spots. Not one of them is a player you can build a team around. Barako should explain their ties to SMC as well. San Miguel distributes Barako energy colas. And now, Koy Banal, an assistant to Petron last season and San Mig Coffee before that, has been moved to Barako.

I think even Danny Seigle doesn't get what Barako is doing that's why he declined the new contract they offered. Punta na lang siyang TNT or Alaska. He could still put up decent numbers coming off the bench.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 06, 2013 at 07:01 AM
** There's some buzz that TnT is talking to Danny Seigle for a spot on the team ...... if he wants decent playing time for a competing franchise, then TnT is the best case scenario for Seigle right now.

** GPORT trades draftee Holstein to SMC for draftee Chua & Najorda ..... Tim Cone finally gets that bigman who will undergo the same training that Thoss, Juinio, etc went through.

** Even a tycoon like MVP has given his 2-cents worth on the latest BARAKO firesale ..... like the rest of the nation (except Comm. Cheato Salud), he is disgusted.

** Businessmen can learn a thing or two from pimps like George Chua & Bert Lina ..... selling players and/or draft rights is a very lucrative business.

Both Chua & Lina has seen their core businesses take massive hits (AGFA products getting obsolete, RED BULL dropping them as local distributor, SMARTMATIC debacle, BURGER KING debacle, FEDEX leaving Clark, etc) but they struck gold by running ragtag PBA teams, losing, then selling players to SMCorp teams.

Its an open secret that Arwind Santos was sold by AIR21 to SMCorp for P20M.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Nov 06, 2013 at 08:36 AM
We can't really complain that much, it's business after all. If these business corporations allow these controversies to happen, then we won't be able to do anything about it. If you really are disgusted with the way things are being handled then don't watch the games, live or on tv.

Why is SMC willing to shoulder 3 teams officially, even 4 before when the gate attendance was at an all-time low? Why have Alaska, the MVP teams and ROS not left the league despite all of these issues? Because the profit and other gains far exceed the expenses. The PBA is not really all about giving to the fans, even though that is the propaganda. The PBA is all about earning money for the different business corporation members.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 06, 2013 at 02:39 PM
We can't really complain that much, it's business after all. If these business corporations allow these controversies to happen, then we won't be able to do anything about it. If you really are disgusted with the way things are being handled then don't watch the games, live or on tv.

Why is SMC willing to shoulder 3 teams officially, even 4 before when the gate attendance was at an all-time low? Why have Alaska, the MVP teams and ROS not left the league despite all of these issues? Because the profit and other gains far exceed the expenses. The PBA is not really all about giving to the fans, even though that is the propaganda. The PBA is all about earning money for the different business corporation members.

In many ways, almost every sport nowadays is a business ...... even the Olympics. But it doesn't mean that spectators can't complain with the intensity that they want, when controversies or shenanigans happen.

Besides, every one watching live or on TV is a paying customer - why wouldn't one complain if he/she sees something wrong?

I've long been disgusted and complained about the way things work in the PBA - but not when that jump-ball is thrown by the referee and the game gets going. I'm very sure that its the same with most everyone else ..... that is, they still watch the game because they enjoy watching the ACTUAL sport.

It is about money for these franchises in the PBA, but it is still a sport where everyone is expected to compete, follow the rules and promote fair play.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 06, 2013 at 08:52 PM
We can't really complain that much, it's business after all. If these business corporations allow these controversies to happen, then we won't be able to do anything about it. If you really are disgusted with the way things are being handled then don't watch the games, live or on tv.

Why is SMC willing to shoulder 3 teams officially, even 4 before when the gate attendance was at an all-time low? Why have Alaska, the MVP teams and ROS not left the league despite all of these issues? Because the profit and other gains far exceed the expenses. The PBA is not really all about giving to the fans, even though that is the propaganda. The PBA is all about earning money for the different business corporation members.

i just feel that the reason why this thing is going on, wala kaseng nag reklamo, siguro kung mag aalsa ang fans baka matauhan na sila baka sakaling tablan na sila ng hiya, ang PBA naging para na ding politika, puno ng corruption at panlilinlang.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 06, 2013 at 10:10 PM
i just feel that the reason why this thing is going on, wala kaseng nag reklamo, siguro kung mag aalsa ang fans baka matauhan na sila baka sakaling tablan na sila ng hiya, ang PBA naging para na ding politika, puno ng corruption at panlilinlang.

Exactly bro ...... the very few times that lopsided transactions were "exposed", Comm. Cheato Salud set aside his SMCorp bias and stopped the transaction dead on its track.

Case in point, the very 1st attempt by POWERADE to trade Marcio Lassiter to PETRON ...... AKTV revealed a very damning document which showed an intent to sell the franchise to SMCorp, signed no less by the COCA-COLA CEO.

Both PETRON and POWERADE were caught with their pants down, leaving Comm. Cheato Salud with no choice but to veto the trade. Of course, Salud waited a conference to let the issue die down, before approving the trade.

Much similar to the PDAF issue, titigil lang ang mga nangbababoy kapag madaming umanagal, magalit at humingi nang aksyon.

Of course this is basketball ...... where a great majority of fans don't care about the cheating as long as their favorite team (more specifically, their pogi idols) wins.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 13, 2013 at 05:50 PM
The final line-ups for every PBA team has been submitted ...... lo and behold, absent from the BARAKO BULL roster are Wesley Gonzales & Cris Pacana.

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/335221/sports/basketball/pba-with-rosters-submitted-teams-brace-for-the-start-of-the-philippine-cup

These two were the players that BARAKO got for trading their star-player Allein Maliksi to SMC.

Why would a team trade away its best player, in exchange for scrubs which they will not use (both Gonzales & Pacana didn't play a minute for BARAKO) nor will they sign to a contract ??

Masyado kayong halata Bert Lina, George Chua & Tim Cone.  ;)

Now, it's 100% guaranteed that scrub Labagala wont last in the BARAKO lineup as well ....... Labagala was the player that BARAKO got after trading away lead PG Eman Monfort.  ;)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: steelcrazy on Nov 13, 2013 at 06:07 PM
Ah the PBA. I have no interest watching it anymore.
Nowadays i prefer watching those PBA greatest games specially those games played by the Jawo led Ginebra San Miguel.
Even those imports of old are far better fun to watch compared to the recent batches of imports w/c cant really dominate due to the evolution of basketball.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Chorus on Nov 14, 2013 at 06:55 AM
Danny Ildefonso no longer part of Petron  :(

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/where-is-danny-i-ildefonsos-sudden-exit-from-petron-shrouded-in-mystery-v02 (http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/where-is-danny-i-ildefonsos-sudden-exit-from-petron-shrouded-in-mystery-v02)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Superman on Nov 14, 2013 at 07:11 AM
Very notable as well is that Danny Seigle and Rico Maierhoffer has not been signed by any team YET scrubs like Eddie Laure, Paolo Hubalde and Leo Avenido have been signed.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 14, 2013 at 10:45 AM
Very notable as well is that Danny Seigle and Rico Maierhoffer has not been signed by any team YET scrubs like Eddie Laure, Paolo Hubalde and Leo Avenido have been signed.

Maierhofer is injured and has been placed on the injured/reserved list of BARAKO ..... he will be back on the active roster as soon as healthy. He'll play a few games for BARAKO then be sold este traded to an SMCorp team.

Seigle has declined the farce team of BARAKO ...... he's still good enough to play and will likely end up with another team soon.

ALASKA values Laure's leadership. Avenido is a nice rotation player for it's thin SG lineup ..... he was an ABL MVP not too long ago. Besides, signing-up both Laure & Avenido is further proof that ALASKA adheres to the salary cap rules.

Completely agree on Paolo Hubalde ...... it's a wonder why this player always finds himself a spot on an SMC team. He is one of many draft failures of Jong Uichico.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: Superman on Nov 14, 2013 at 11:37 AM
Maierhofer is injured and has been placed on the injured/reserved list of BARAKO ..... he will be back on the active roster as soon as healthy. He'll play a few games for BARAKO then be sold este traded to an SMCorp team.

Seigle has declined the farce team of BARAKO ...... he's still good enough to play and will likely end up with another team soon.

ALASKA values Laure's leadership. Avenido is a nice rotation player for it's thin SG lineup ..... he was an ABL MVP not too long ago. Besides, signing-up both Laure & Avenido is further proof that ALASKA adheres to the salary cap rules.

Completely agree on Paolo Hubalde ...... it's a wonder why this player always finds himself a spot on an SMC team. He is one of many draft failures of Jong Uichico.

Thanks for the update sir! :D

Hubalde either ends up w/ an SMC PBA team or the ABL...swerte! :D
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: frequenzy on Nov 14, 2013 at 01:05 PM
ngayon ko lang nabasa yung kay Ildefonso, bigla siyang nilaglag ng Petron.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: mikz023 on Nov 14, 2013 at 01:10 PM
ngayon ko lang nabasa yung kay Ildefonso, bigla siyang nilaglag ng Petron.

Baka gagawin siyang one of the assistant coaches ng Petron? Para macontinue nya din un pagmentor kac Fajardo. Pero sayang pa din..hindi man lang nakapagretire si Ildefonso habang suot ang uniform ng Petron. Tsk tsk.
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: brainwashed on Nov 14, 2013 at 08:16 PM
Danny Ildefonso no longer part of Petron  :(

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/where-is-danny-i-ildefonsos-sudden-exit-from-petron-shrouded-in-mystery-v02 (http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/where-is-danny-i-ildefonsos-sudden-exit-from-petron-shrouded-in-mystery-v02)


This was the interview given by Ildefonso.
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/334280/sports/basketball/pba-danny-ildefonso-the-last-of-the-san-miguel-beermen (http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/334280/sports/basketball/pba-danny-ildefonso-the-last-of-the-san-miguel-beermen)
Title: Re: PBA Season 38
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Nov 17, 2013 at 04:29 PM
Based on the 1st half of the SMC-Ginebra game, Sangalang seems to be adjusting well to his team and the PBA game. He actually looks comfortable in Tim Cone's system. He knows where to position himself on offense and he's active on defense. Si Slaughter naman is slow. He can't get position at the post against Yancy and his footwork isn't that polished. Di rin maganda spacing ng Ginebra kaya mukhang nawawala siya. He's slow rin defensively and tentative.

At the other game naman, Kelly Williams doesn't look like someone who's been away from the game for quite a while. He's fit, moving well and very active.