Post by: mattia on Jun 29, 2014 at 09:02 AM
Let's cheer for our alma mater. Good luck to our schools.
http://sports.inquirer.net/157368/san-beda-turns-back-jru-san-sebastian-nips-letran
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 07, 2014 at 05:33 PM
I'm sure DLSU will be unchallenged to win back to back.
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jul 07, 2014 at 05:43 PM
When will the UAAP start this season?
I'm sure DLSU will be unchallenged to win back to back.
July 12, this coming saturday would be the opening.
As for DLSU being unchallenged... might be. they have a monster line-up with the returning yutien andrada, 3 new fil-am recruits and the hold overs from last year.
UE i think would be a credible opponent - but depends on how arafat (new import) performs in the UAAP. Two imports alternating their time, providing instant offense (arafat) and monster defense (mamie - might have also improved his offensive skills).
Ateneo - hahay. small ball. i'll be happy if we crack the final 4 anything after that is bonus. looking forward to next year. haha!
Post by: sardaukar on Jul 07, 2014 at 06:08 PM
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Jul 07, 2014 at 06:36 PM
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As for DLSU being unchallenged... might be. they have a monster line-up with the returning yutien andrada, 3 new fil-am recruits and the hold overs from last year.
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jul 07, 2014 at 07:08 PM
I had mass with the DLSU basketball team and boss danding yesterday and the team is huge with 2 new fil-ams. I did not see the third fil-am stated below... maybe he looks Filipino. Was very glad to learn that Vosotros had recovered from his injury.
Mustre, Sargent and Tratter are the 3 new fil-am recruits. The DLSU team has the biggest front-court assembled. There are huge trees walking around in DLSU!!!!! AVO, Torres, Andrada
Mustre - i think is 5'10 or smaller so that's why you might not have noticed him?
Sargent - 6'6
Tratter - 6'3
Future looks bright for DLSU with Ben Mbala 6'6 joining next year. monster line-up.
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jul 07, 2014 at 07:15 PM
How's UST? Who did they lose other than Teng?
Haven't really taken a good look at UST's line up. But subido joined them so that would help in the guard position with shariff being undersized and bullied around by the pg's of the other teams last season or was it the other season(?). Hopefully, he's gotten better. Mariano, daquiaog, and Pe are still with the team even if Pe wanted to quit the team and focus on his studies. They could be in the thick of things this season but depends on how the new coach and the team gels.
DLSU
UE
FEU
ADMU/UST/NU
UP
ADU
That's how i predict the standings would be in the coming season based on line-ups but you don't win on paper. we'll see how it goes!
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 07, 2014 at 07:22 PM
Maybe they are ambitious of a 5 peat like their Arch rival Ateneo did during the Norman Black era.
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jul 07, 2014 at 07:29 PM
So no less than a sweep plus the championship this season by the Archers?
Maybe they are ambitious of a 5 peat like their Arch rival Ateneo did during the Norman Black era.
Not sure if they can sweep but they are the only team for this season that is in the best position to pull it off.
Also, i might get a lot of flack for this but the UAAP will shoot themselves in the foot with the banning of imports. It will be circa 90's again with the proliferation of fil-ams and those with less in terms of support will have to rely on good scouting in the countryside (feu has the best network) to beat the teams who has a better connection for Fil-am/fil-fors and of course cornering the blue chip recruits in the HS ranks. For me, the african imports are the great equalizer for teams with smaller war chests and would teach our filipino players how to compete on a higher level against bigger and faster opponents.
All those talk of home-grown pride by FEU?? where's their HS stand out jj domingo and the other guy they didn't even crack the current line-up. They can't even promise their HS stars a slot in the team a of their seniors. If you look at the line-up of the uaap teams, the most who have home-grown are the ones not proclaiming to the world about it. The uaap residency for HS is basically the move by montinola for punishing soc rivera before for moving to UP and pinggoy now for moving to ateneo. plain and simple. I'm all for residency if one moves to another UAAP school when they're in college but for a HS graduate, there should be no residency.
Post by: newwaveboy on Jul 07, 2014 at 09:07 PM
Like I've posted many times, basketball is one sport where our country has absolutely NO shortage of talent ....... at any given time, in any given baranggay, one can spot numerous potential talents to bring to the collegiate leagues.
I'm also against the proliferation of Filams, like what happened in the 90's ...... when certain teams employed US-based agents specifically to "recruit" Filams.
Even ADMU's Fr. Tito Caluag published his opinion on this practice and admitted that his school is guilty (along with one other school) ..... he concluded that the practice, deprived local talents of roster spots and scholarships.
Even a pro-league like the PBA saw the dangers of too many Filams, thus rules (5 Filams per team) were instituted many years ago.
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IMO the best equalizer or the best chance to achieve parity in the UAAP & NCAA, is to institute strict rules on player recruitment, like what the US NCAA has long done.
Here, we normally see tycoons and "businessmen" who have no educational affiliation with schools whatsoever, openly recruiting players ..... with the people involved even admitting monetary benefits (!)
“As of now syempre, priority pa rin niya yun (commitment with La Salle). Syempre si Boss Danding naman kasi yung nagpapa-aral sa kanila sa high school … silang magkapatid (ni Andre), syempre, priority pa rin namin ang La Salle,” said (Benjie) Paras.
http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/kobe-paras-move-to-us-has-blessings-of-la-salle-backer-cojuangco-says-dad-benjie-v02
In the US NCAA, a HS senior standout receiving a few sets of jackets, was enough to warrant a case against the recruiters (boosters) and the school ..... dito sa atin, lantaran ang palitan nang "benefits" pero parang wala lang. e.g. Alvin Teng being elevated to SMC ABL assitant coach just as Jeron Teng commits to DLSU/Danding.
There is a pending bill from Pia Cayetano which requires FULL DISCLOSURE on what student-athletes receive from the school and its "supporters". This is a good start. All those who love the sport should support this bill, if it does come around.
Post by: fentom on Jul 07, 2014 at 09:31 PM
Post by: Verbl Kint on Jul 07, 2014 at 10:01 PM
Post by: jonjon on Jul 08, 2014 at 08:21 AM
Post by: newwaveboy on Jul 08, 2014 at 10:09 AM
Like I've been ranting for the longest time - REMOVE all the businessmen, tycoons, cronies, etc from the collegiate leagues + document and disclose all student-athlete benefits = One step closer to parity
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jul 08, 2014 at 10:38 AM
If strict recruitment rules were in place, this whole residency brouhaha might not have occured.
Like I've been ranting for the longest time - REMOVE all the businessmen, tycoons, cronies, etc from the collegiate leagues + document and disclose all student-athlete benefits = One step closer to parity
The points you raised are well met and i do agree that if there were strict recruitment rules and we were like the US NCAA then no doubt there would be parity in recruitment. I do wish it would be implemented so that these vindictive recruitment rules that are implemented by the UAAP board is squashed.
I do stand that banning imports is still detrimental. If you have the US NCAA recruitment rules in play, there would no need to ban "imports". With globalization most universities now have foreign nationals studying dentistry, architecture, etc. since our cost of living is still cheap, with a good command of the english language, beautiful women, etc. our universities are a good destination for some foreign nationals. I say let them play. It just increases the competitiveness of the league. I find it myopic to ban foreign nationals when we ourselves always get excited that a filipino player is a prospect of a US NCAA div I, II, or even III school and we hope they get recruited.
Double standard, imo.
If we have a lot of filipino talent, then having talented foreign players playing in our leagues do not curtail recruitment of these more talented players. I would suggest more basketball tournaments, leagues to be expanded, etc. At the end of the day if you do have talent you will shine over those with less.
Better competition = better players.
Why do fil-am or pure filipinos playing in the US competitively are better than our filipino talents here? they play against better opposition they work harder and train smarter.
Post by: mattia on Jul 08, 2014 at 01:17 PM
The points you raised are well met and i do agree that if there were strict recruitment rules and we were like the US NCAA then no doubt there would be parity in recruitment. I do wish it would be implemented so that these vindictive recruitment rules that are implemented by the UAAP board is squashed.
I do stand that banning imports is still detrimental. If you have the US NCAA recruitment rules in play, there would no need to ban "imports". With globalization most universities now have foreign nationals studying dentistry, architecture, etc. since our cost of living is still cheap, with a good command of the english language, beautiful women, etc. our universities are a good destination for some foreign nationals. I say let them play. It just increases the competitiveness of the league. I find it myopic to ban foreign nationals when we ourselves always get excited that a filipino player is a prospect of a US NCAA div I, II, or even III school and we hope they get recruited.
Double standard, imo.
If we have a lot of filipino talent, then having talented foreign players playing in our leagues do not curtail recruitment of these more talented players. I would suggest more basketball tournaments, leagues to be expanded, etc. At the end of the day if you do have talent you will shine over those with less.
Better competition = better players.
Why do fil-am or pure filipinos playing in the US competitively are better than our filipino talents here? they play against better opposition they work harder and train smarter.
AGREE with you here.
As long as the player is a Student-Athlete, meaning being a student takes precedence over being an athlete, that should be fine. In San Beda, I think two players were removed from the current seniors team because they failed their classes.
What is wrong is when schools resort to the so-called "hugot". They get players, even to the extent of forging school records, just so they boost the team. I know of some players who faked their ages just so they can play.
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 08, 2014 at 02:01 PM
Home grown talents should be given the proper exposures so they can bloom and from there make a good career out of basketball after they're done in college.
San Beda should set an example by stopping the recruitment of imports.
They already have a good all Filipino line up but still they continue the bad habit of addition a HUGE import that cause imbalance competition in the league.
So far the only import worthy of playing in the collegiate leagues was Kirk Long, in fact, he should also be allowed to play in the PBA.
Post by: newwaveboy on Jul 08, 2014 at 05:43 PM
I do stand that banning imports is still detrimental. If you have the US NCAA recruitment rules in play, there would no need to ban "imports". With globalization most universities now have foreign nationals studying dentistry, architecture, etc. since our cost of living is still cheap, with a good command of the english language, beautiful women, etc. our universities are a good destination for some foreign nationals. I say let them play. It just increases the competitiveness of the league. I find it myopic to ban foreign nationals when we ourselves always get excited that a filipino player is a prospect of a US NCAA div I, II, or even III school and we hope they get recruited.
Double standard, imo.
If we have a lot of filipino talent, then having talented foreign players playing in our leagues do not curtail recruitment of these more talented players. I would suggest more basketball tournaments, leagues to be expanded, etc. At the end of the day if you do have talent you will shine over those with less.
Better competition = better players.
Why do fil-am or pure filipinos playing in the US competitively are better than our filipino talents here? they play against better opposition they work harder and train smarter.
Good points you raised there bro ....... I agree with your points about playing against better oppositon will make you compete and improve yourself, as with the case of Filams playing in the US.
However, not to belittle the imports that play in the collegiate leagues - these imports are actually very short on talent. They're recruited primarily for being tall, strong, imposing and having some semblance of rebounding and/or offensive game ...... not surprising since their part of the world, the sport isnt established enough.
Honestly, outside of Ekwe, Mbala and maybe Adeogun, the lot of these imports are extremely "limited" ...... most have poor fundmentals e.g. 2-left feet syndrome.
So, there's not much to gain on a skill-level perspective ...... it's the other way around, the local leagues are actually making these imports better players.
If globalization here is such, that there are considerable number of foreign talent wanting to play competitive hoops ...... I say, let them play in the D-League or better yet, someone should start a grass-roots league featuring our guest students.
Like I said, there are thousands of local prospects playing in every baranggay in the country, just waiting to be discovered or get hit shot ...... lets not deprive them of their shot at the sport that is closest to our nations heart.
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 08, 2014 at 07:02 PM
AdU -
Matthew Aquino
Alexis Barrera
John Baytan
Harold Butron
Francis Donahue
Christian Garcia
John Gumtang
Alejandrino Inigo
Ryan Monteclaro
Joseph Nalos
Dawn Ochea
Jessiery Pedrosa
William Polican
Jansen Rios
Don Trollano
Ivan Villanueva
ADMU- (need to make one cut)
John Apacible
Anton Asistio
Gideon Babilonia
Gwynne Capacio
Clint Doliguez
Nico Elorde
Ponso Gotladera
Jay Javelosa
Isaac Lim
Chris Newsome
Von Pessumal
Kris Porter
Kiefer Ravena
Thirdy Ravena
Paul Siarot
Arvin Tolentino
Vince Tolentino
DLSU-
Yutien Andrada
Rob Bolick
Kib Montalbo
Terrence Mustre
Jason Perkins
Prince Rivero
Matt Salem
Julian Sargent
Jeron Teng
Norbert Torres
Thomas Torres
Abu Tratter
Arnold Van Opstal
Almond Vosotros
FEU- (from Mark Molina, via Pong Ducanes)
Mark Belo
Carl Cruz
Jason David
Jesson Delfinado
Vince Denila
Ron Dennison
Russel Escoto
Richard Escoto
Anthony Hargrove
Alejandro Inigo
Joel Lee Yu
Roger Pogoy
Francis Tamsi
Mike Tolomia
Reeve Ugsang
NU-
JJ Alejandro
Gelo Alolino
Alfred Aroga
Raphael Atangan
Henri Betayene
JP Cauilan
Reden Celda
Rev Diputado
Paolo Javelona
Glenn Khobuntin
Kyle Neypes
Tristan Perez
Troy Rosario
Mohamad Salim
Ralph Tansingco
Dave Yu
UE-
Dan Alberto
Edgar Charcos
Zyron Cudal
RR De Leon
Clark Derige
Pedrito Galanza
Daryll Guiang
Ivan Hernandez
Chris Javier
Gino Jumaoas
Charles Mammie
Moustapha Arafat
Mark Olayon
Emil Palma
Roi Sumang
Paul Varilla
UP-
Amani Amar
Henri Asilum
Vince Bederi
Diego Dario
Carlo Escalambre
JR Gallarza
Moriah Gingerich
Nomer Gonzales
Paul Harris
Mark Juruena
Kyles Lao
Jarrell Lim
Dave Moralde
Martin Pascual
Mikee Reyes
Chris Vito
UST-
Karim Abdul
Regie Basibas
Ed Daquioag
Levi Dela Cruz
Jeepy Faundo
Kevin Ferrer
Alfren Gayosa
Kent Lao
Kim Lo
Jan Macasaet
Aljon Mariano
Paulo Pe
Raymart Sablan
Sheak Sheriff
Renz Subido
Louie Vigil
Even on papers the Archer's lineup looks invincible & overwhleming.
It will be a BIG disappointment if they're gona lose even a single game this season.
Post by: Wiggum on Jul 08, 2014 at 07:47 PM
I hope TV5 will air Gilas' first FIBA Asia Cup game (v. Chinese-Taipei) in the evening on Saturday, so that it won't conflict with the UAAP doubleheader in the afternoon.
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 09, 2014 at 07:27 AM
Post by: newwaveboy on Jul 09, 2014 at 07:34 AM
With all the very young talented blue chip players Danding is investing and hoarding, I think he should start another NCC program and develop them for international competition.
Nice, but not likely to happen bro ....... SBP already has the GILAS program, which has been successful so far.
SBP backs GILAS because of corporate sponsor SMART and the fact that the SBP President is Manny Pangilinan himself.
Post by: beknat on Jul 09, 2014 at 10:50 AM
Post by: deist on Jul 09, 2014 at 10:55 AM
Post by: SiCkBoY on Jul 09, 2014 at 12:58 PM
How do we start from this? You have a sophomore as your leading returning scorer with 7.8ppg, shooting 40 percent from the field. Gone are Sam Marata and everybody's Tito Raul, Raul Soyud, who put up double digit outputs on a team that is horrid on both ends of the floor. And I don't see that changing anytime soon. Gone are the days when there is actually some fight in the Fighting Maroons. Yes, it's not what they're good at, but still, emulating the Philadelphia 76ers in tank mode year in and year out can only make it worse. What chance do they have now? Every celebrated recruit they have flamed out - let's not discount my HS batch mate, Mike Gamboa, this side of Marvin Cruz and Nestor David. Paolo Romero is the only one with an actual shot at making himself relevant, along with Kyles Lao. The Alinko Mba experiment miserably failed, and the Chris Ball mix isn't going to go somewhere else.
Predicted record: 1-13 (someone is bound to be caught on an unlucky day)
http://www.philstar.com/video-features/2014/07/09/1344251/watch-uaap-primer-maroons-whipping-boys-no-more (http://www.philstar.com/video-features/2014/07/09/1344251/watch-uaap-primer-maroons-whipping-boys-no-more)
Haha!
Post by: newwaveboy on Jul 09, 2014 at 01:46 PM
Norman Black said it best, "recruitment is the key" to winning in the UAAP.
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 09, 2014 at 04:48 PM
Nice, but not likely to happen bro ....... SBP already has the GILAS program, which has been successful so far.
SBP backs GILAS because of corporate sponsor SMART and the fact that the SBP President is Manny Pangilinan himself.
Actually I prefer the NCC program before with Ron Jacobs as coach over the Chot Reyes mentored Gilas program.
I'm sure given some power play, Danding will like to step into the picture as well.
Post by: newwaveboy on Jul 10, 2014 at 10:27 PM
Actually I prefer the NCC program before with Ron Jacobs as coach over the Chot Reyes mentored Gilas program.
I'm sure given some power play, Danding will like to step into the picture as well.
To be fair with MVP, they did not re-invent the wheel ...... GILAS followed the NCC blueprint - we need a dedicated local crew and hire naturalized players to compete at a high level.
Ron Jacobs was a great coach, but people tend to forget that his NCC teams were bannered by an "army" of hired American players ...... which was trimmed down to the best 3, Engelland, Moore & Still for the last NCC teams.
Post by: mattia on Jul 12, 2014 at 03:24 PM
Nice!!!!
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 12, 2014 at 03:53 PM
The Warriors responding well to the new system of Derek.
Most likely its gona be UE vs DLSU in this season's finals.
Now can the Pumarens, who brought DLSU to numerous championhips, spoil the Archer's dream of a back to back UAAP title?
Post by: mattia on Jul 12, 2014 at 04:18 PM
UE pulverizing State U with the usual Pumaren system w/c is full court pressing all the way.
The Warriors responding well to the new system of Derek.
Most likely its gona be UE vs DLSU in this season's finals.
Now can the Pumarens, who brought DLSU to numerous championhips, spoil the Archer's dream of a back to back UAAP title?
Just a bit of trivia. The Pumarens, particularly Manong Derrick and Coach Dindo, were trained in the Spurs Camp in terms of coaching. They are employing a Spurs-inspired system. The same system that gave Coach Dindo a sweep of the eliminations by the UE Warriors ( only to be spoiled by DLSU in the Finals ). It would be a good rematch indeed. But this early, DLSU looks mighty.
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 12, 2014 at 04:26 PM
AVO is much improved and huge but UE has an import in Mammie to match up.
Post by: Verbl Kint on Jul 12, 2014 at 05:53 PM
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Post by: mattia on Jul 12, 2014 at 06:50 PM
Stunning victory indeed.
Post by: mattia on Jul 12, 2014 at 06:53 PM
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Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 12, 2014 at 08:30 PM
Post by: SiCkBoY on Jul 12, 2014 at 11:55 PM
Parang setup sa joke ni Conan: They're weakness is that they're UP.
Post by: krets pulpol on Jul 13, 2014 at 12:29 AM
La Salle can't be too complacent with people tagging them as heavy favorites. Most teams are still eager to get that crown and they will be back for revenge. The way I saw earlier is how they are tentative and no team work.
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 13, 2014 at 07:25 AM
So much for big expectations = big disappointment
La Salle can't be too complacent with people tagging them as heavy favorites. Most teams are still eager to get that crown and they will be back for revenge. The way I saw earlier is how they are tentative and no team work.
Anyway it's just the 1st game and we cant judge them in that loss to FEU.
What's disappointing was many expect them to go undefeated this season.
Post by: sardaukar on Jul 13, 2014 at 07:32 AM
He probably didn't want the pressure of that undefeated season (look what happened to the volleyball team) and he knew it was more important to expose weakness now and finish strong like last year than the other way around (like FEU).
Or maybe I'm just wishing it were so. ;D
Post by: brainwashed on Jul 13, 2014 at 08:17 AM
I don't know if it's wishful thinking on my part but I sort of get the feeling that Juno would have been perfectly happy if they lost. The way he was subbing and giving minutes to rooks as well as sitting Perkins for an extended period tells me he wasn't too concerned with winning as he was with figuring out good combinations and exposure for the rookies.
He probably didn't want the pressure of that undefeated season (look what happened to the volleyball team) and he knew it was more important to expose weakness now and finish strong like last year than the other way around (like FEU).
Or maybe I'm just wishing it were so. ;D
But he had more time to prepare this year compared to last year. One would think he would have figured out his combinations and plays by now. And is he really going to concentrate on low post plays?
Post by: puffalan84 on Jul 13, 2014 at 12:09 PM
Post by: deist on Jul 13, 2014 at 12:32 PM
Tolomia & Belo are players to watch this year for FEU.
Post by: SiCkBoY on Jul 13, 2014 at 12:55 PM
I don't know if it's wishful thinking on my part but I sort of get the feeling that Juno would have been perfectly happy if they lost. The way he was subbing and giving minutes to rooks as well as sitting Perkins for an extended period tells me he wasn't too concerned with winning as he was with figuring out good combinations and exposure for the rookies.Good point. As Tim Cone said, pogi points lang ang eliminations sweep. What's important is the championship.
He probably didn't want the pressure of that undefeated season (look what happened to the volleyball team) and he knew it was more important to expose weakness now and finish strong like last year than the other way around (like FEU).
Or maybe I'm just wishing it were so. ;D
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 13, 2014 at 02:19 PM
For sure this Ateneo team will not go far becoz of lack of Big Men.
Post by: heisenbergman on Jul 13, 2014 at 02:36 PM
Post by: Verbl Kint on Jul 13, 2014 at 02:46 PM
Palalaruin kaya si Thirdy Ravena?
The brothers Ravena are both playing now.
It seems Adamson has the tallest coaching staff in Philippine basketball.
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jul 13, 2014 at 03:15 PM
Post by: mattia on Jul 14, 2014 at 10:54 AM
uniform of La Salle's coaching staff looks cool.. hangang kelan kaya nila susuot yan.. :)
I like it. Seems like a Gary Valenciano inspired outfit. Lasalista rin si Gary V right?
Post by: krets pulpol on Jul 14, 2014 at 12:14 PM
uniform of La Salle's coaching staff looks cool.. hangang kelan kaya nila susuot yan.. :)
Finally got to see what the buzz is all about. I thought it was just the white suit and tie when I saw last saturday, what a mockery. They all looked like Riddlers at Araneta.
Yes, ditch the green clown suit and start coaching seriously now.
Post by: brainwashed on Jul 14, 2014 at 06:20 PM
Finally got to see what the buzz is all about. I thought it was just the white suit and tie when I saw last saturday, what a mockery. They all looked like Riddlers at Araneta.
Yes, ditch the green clown suit and start coaching seriously now.
A darker shade of green would probably be better.
Post by: newwaveboy on Jul 14, 2014 at 06:30 PM
Utos daw ni Boss Danding na mag-suot that way ....... most likely inspired by Tim Cone's long-sleeves and tie requirements for his entire coaching staff.
When Boss Danding say's jump ...... everyone around him asks "how high?" ;D
By the way, I recall a news article not too long ago, that some NCAA schools are considering to jump into the UAAP ...... or is it the other way around?
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 14, 2014 at 07:19 PM
Post by: SiCkBoY on Jul 14, 2014 at 07:31 PM
A darker shade of green would probably be better.I agree. Other than that, it looks fine.
Post by: Verbl Kint on Jul 20, 2014 at 10:30 AM
Fabilioh!
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Jul 20, 2014 at 11:03 AM
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Post by: mattia on Jul 20, 2014 at 12:21 PM
Post by: heisenbergman on Jul 20, 2014 at 12:22 PM
totally unexpected.
masama pa laro ni kiefer.
Post by: mattia on Jul 20, 2014 at 12:28 PM
Post by: heisenbergman on Jul 20, 2014 at 01:19 PM
LOL desperate moves.
Post by: mattia on Jul 20, 2014 at 01:25 PM
Hack-a-Gotladera.
LOL desperate moves.
Ravena simply killed DLSU with his 3s.
Powerhouse DLSU now about to be down 0-2. And people were talking about a sweep at the start of the tournament.
ADMU also had better rotation and execution than their arch rival.
Post by: heisenbergman on Jul 20, 2014 at 01:27 PM
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Post by: newwaveboy on Jul 20, 2014 at 01:34 PM
Sino ba ang nag-buo nang team na ito? ;)
Seriously, it's way too early in the season ...... other teams have lineups that the junior squads of other teams can beat. DLSU will still come on strong by Final 4.
Post by: Verbl Kint on Jul 20, 2014 at 01:36 PM
DLSU's mistake was not crashing the boards when they could. Their top rebounder was Teng.
Post by: mattia on Jul 20, 2014 at 01:42 PM
Congrats to the Blue Eagles. Sweet victory when you beat an arch rival.
Post by: krets pulpol on Jul 20, 2014 at 01:50 PM
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Post by: Verbl Kint on Jul 20, 2014 at 02:12 PM
DLSU's next opponent is NU (Jul23). So I guess they'll finally win this one.
Don't speak so soon, NU are definitely not pushovers. They routed UST last week.
Post by: Superman on Jul 20, 2014 at 02:13 PM
Sobrang lakas nang line-up, pero talo pa din ....... parang PETRON nang PBA.
Sino ba ang nag-buo nang team na ito? ;)
Seriously, it's way too early in the season ...... other teams have lineups that the junior squads of other teams can beat. DLSU will still come on strong by Final 4.
Agree w/ you sir. Last year it was almost the same for DLSU. They'll peak at the right time. My prediction is 4-0 after this defeat.
Was surprised that Juno switched to zone defense when ADMU was hot. AVO didn't have his usual dominating game.
But what really won it for ADMU was Pessumal and Gotladera. Kiefer will always score being the King Eagle. Silently, Nico Elorde was also effective at the point. Incidentally both Fonso and Nico are ex-Archers
Still...ANIMO LA SALLE!
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jul 20, 2014 at 02:17 PM
Tolentino ( former Red Cubs ) also playing like he's no rookie for Ateneo. Magaling yang batang yan.
The only knock on his game is his defense.
Ravena simply killed DLSU with his 3s.
Powerhouse DLSU now about to be down 0-2. And people were talking about a sweep at the start of the tournament.
ADMU also had better rotation and execution than their arch rival.
wouldn't count them out. too early in the season and i think they'll peak at the right time. last season they were 0-2 or 3-4 in the first round.
Just pleasantly happy and surprised with the win by Ateneo! One Big fight!
Awesome offensive display by the Blue Eagles. Other than the first 6 minutes, they did not look like underdogs at all.
DLSU's mistake was not crashing the boards when they could. Their top rebounder was Teng.
Yep. did not play to their strengths like in the FEU game. they should have pounded it in and funnel all the ball through AVO, andrada and torres, Perkins is the lone bright star for the frontline. a gem of a player. mismatch. has range and good defense.
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jul 20, 2014 at 02:21 PM
Agree w/ you sir. Last year it was almost the same for DLSU. They'll peak at the right time. My prediction is 4-0 after this defeat.
Was surprised that Juno switched to zone defense when ADMU was hot. AVO didn't have his usual dominating game.
But what really won it for ADMU was Pessumal and Gotladera. Kiefer will always score being the King Eagle. Silently, Nico Elorde was also effective at the point. Incidentally both Fonso and Nico are ex-Archers
Still...ANIMO LA SALLE!
Ponso would have been an atenean freshman as he was personally being recruited by Norman black but stayed with DLSU since he was promised playing time. Like nico elorde who was personally approached by Coach Norman. As the stockpiling of talent by DLSU continued and the direction the team management were going, Nico realized it first and moved to Ateneo. it was the year after that Ponso realized that he would be still relegated to the bench.
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 20, 2014 at 02:27 PM
Actually the adversity is good for them this early into the season and what matters is they peak at the right time just like last year when they got their momentum in the 2nd round and into the finals.
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jul 20, 2014 at 03:12 PM
Despite 0-2 DLSU remains the team to beat this season.
Actually the adversity is good for them this early into the season and what matters is they peak at the right time just like last year when they got their momentum in the 2nd round and into the finals.
Yep. when they get their groove on they'd be a juggernaut team. not properly utilized lang from what i can see. they have a backcourt that can be exploited by other teams whereas they have a great frontline that noboby can beat. should have gone to AVO, Torres, Andrada, etc. down low more. get the other team in foul trouble and punish them in the shaded lane.
Post by: comet on Jul 20, 2014 at 05:17 PM
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 20, 2014 at 05:46 PM
Post by: Superman on Jul 20, 2014 at 07:12 PM
Post by: sardaukar on Jul 20, 2014 at 08:20 PM
Post by: Superman on Jul 20, 2014 at 08:40 PM
That's a big blow. DLSU is shallow at the guard position.
Agree. They just updated. Thomas will be out for 6 weeks. He can only be back in the Final Four
Post by: puffalan84 on Jul 20, 2014 at 11:03 PM
Post by: SiCkBoY on Jul 20, 2014 at 11:13 PM
Thomas Torres has been ruled out of the season due to fractured ankle. Kib Montalbo and Terrence Mustre now has to step up.Nakow. Dami pa naman may crush dyan kay Thomas Torres :-[
Post by: brainwashed on Jul 20, 2014 at 11:34 PM
That's a big blow. DLSU is shallow at the guard position.
This is probably why DLSU will lose games this season. Their guards are not the slasher type of guards. The opposing teams could simply clog the shaded lane making life difficult for AVO and Norbert Torres. Should the ball be kicked out to the guards, the opposing teams would just close out on them. DLSU were more successful with Perkins and Teng driving in for the lay-up or dropping the ball to their big men in their first two games.
Post by: Superman on Jul 20, 2014 at 11:56 PM
i like the commentators from DLSU ADMU game, simple lang.. parang first time ko lng sila narining..
Eric Tipan and Coach Patrick Gregorio
Post by: krets pulpol on Jul 21, 2014 at 12:13 AM
I just wish them back to back but I don't think that's not going to happen.
Norbert Torres and AVO are inconsistent during games even last season.
Post by: heisenbergman on Jul 22, 2014 at 09:51 AM
Blow to the back of the head. Kahit sa MMA delikado yan ser.
Post by: choyb on Jul 22, 2014 at 10:16 AM
UAAP considering suspension for Arnold Van Opstal (http://www.rappler.com/sports/university/uaap/dlsu/63974-uaap-considering-suspension-arnold-van-opstal)Very clear un sa video, Intentional malinaw... Former Team mate pa nya un just last season.
Blow to the back of the head. Kahit sa MMA delikado yan ser.
Suspension 2-3 games... Agree that,s a very dangerous blow.
Post by: SiCkBoY on Jul 22, 2014 at 11:11 AM
Post by: heisenbergman on Jul 22, 2014 at 11:51 AM
Post by: Superman on Jul 22, 2014 at 11:55 AM
Post by: heisenbergman on Jul 22, 2014 at 12:05 PM
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Jul 22, 2014 at 12:36 PM
UAAP considering suspension for Arnold Van Opstal (http://www.rappler.com/sports/university/uaap/dlsu/63974-uaap-considering-suspension-arnold-van-opstal)
Blow to the back of the head. Kahit sa MMA delikado yan ser.
Post by: brainwashed on Jul 22, 2014 at 05:17 PM
Watched the video link and it did not look intentional. He swung his body and naturally his arms followed.
It seems intentional. His body had already stopped moving. It was only his left arm that was swinging. His right arm was not even swinging. He was using it to impede Gotladera's movement.
Post by: heisenbergman on Jul 22, 2014 at 06:04 PM
If it was a normal boxing out/jostling for position movement, the worst that it could be was a shove forward with the forearm along the back (parang yung tinawag kay Kiefer na "unsportsmanlike foul" during the Adamson game).
But this was a swing... to the nape... in what world is that normal basketball movememt?
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Jul 22, 2014 at 06:28 PM
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jul 22, 2014 at 07:12 PM
What connected? Was it Arnold's fist or forearm?
I'm from the blue side so my opinion might be biased but if you look closely where AVO is looking at, it is directly at Ponso's head when he gave that blow whether be it the forearm or fist. After giving the blow he looks up to see where the ball is. if you were jostling for position you'd be looking at the ball and just boxing out each other by feel or peripheral vision.
I would think it was the forearm that hit the back of Ponso's head. Of course, if you're gonna do that in game you'd want that it wouldn't be too obvious as like a closed fist.
In any case, whether he gets suspended or not hopefully other players would learn from this that the cameras are there and the commissioner will come down on those type of acts. Hopefully, it would become a deterrent for them to not go out and willfully hurt another player.
Post by: krets pulpol on Jul 22, 2014 at 08:02 PM
Did hack-a-Gotladera come from that incident? Sorry I didn't watch the game.
I'm sure he'll get the ire of former team mates now he's in the spotlight and contributing more on the other fence. When BJ Manalo suited the La Salle jersey instead of Ateneo, was he treated the same from former team mates like Wesley Gonzalez, Enrico Villanueva and Richie Alvarez? I bet he did.
I remember him being booed by the Ateneo crowd whenever he's in the court.
Post by: heisenbergman on Jul 22, 2014 at 09:48 PM
What connected? Was it Arnold's fist or forearm?Elbow.
Post by: heisenbergman on Jul 22, 2014 at 09:56 PM
Did hack-a-Gotladera come from that incident? Sorry I didn't watch the game.This seems unrelated to Hack-a-Ponso. I think Lasalle just did that desperation tactic towards the endgame because they knew that Gotladera was weak at the FT line since he was with them for two years.
I'm sure he'll get the ire of former team mates now he's in the spotlight and contributing more on the other fence. When BJ Manalo suited the La Salle jersey instead of Ateneo, was he treated the same from former team mates like Wesley Gonzalez, Enrico Villanueva and Richie Alvarez? I bet he did.I think this is different. BJ was actively courted/recruited by LaSalle because he was one of the best players of his batch, so when he went over to LaSalle, he was vilified by Ateneans.
Gotladera, on the other hand, was almost never used by LaSalle in the two years he was with the team. When he realized that DLSU really had no plans of using/developing him, he transferred to where he could grow more as a basketball player. I don't think anyone could vilify that decision.
Post by: Verbl Kint on Jul 22, 2014 at 10:59 PM
When BJ Manalo suited the La Salle jersey instead of Ateneo, was he treated the same from former team mates like Wesley Gonzalez, Enrico Villanueva and Richie Alvarez? I bet he did.
Definitely not. I don't remember any former Ateneo teammate of BJ Manalo ever giving him a shot like AVO's (someone please correct me if I'm wrong). BJ Manalo even almost suited up for Ateneo, had the hard-core alumni not intervened. When he tore his knee, he rehab'd in Moro Lorenzo, right in the backyard of his former high school.
BJ Manalo was still friends with Enrico (maybe not with Wesley at the time, but they're cool now) even during the time they played against each other during the UAAP. Magkababata yang mga yan, teammates since their SBP days. Rich Alvarez was not a high school teammate.
Post by: mattia on Jul 23, 2014 at 11:09 AM
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jul 23, 2014 at 07:03 PM
http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/avo-ster
Because as logic dictates that even if it was intentional -
1.) “I don’t even think it’s a disqualifying foul because he hit him in this part,” added Jao, pointing to the area around his wrist.
So you can hit somebody sa head with your wrist area and not get a disqualifying foul. good to know. haha!
2.) According to Jao, Van Opstal explained that he will never hit Gotladera, who he said is a friend, former teammate and classmate back when the Ateneo big man spent two seasons at La Salle.
The commission would have to believe him! AVO even tweeted that he would never do that to a former teammate / friend.
But last season:-
Thomas Torres on the other hand drew a one-game suspension for accumulating his second unsportsmanlike foul, a punch directed at former Green Archer Joseph Marata, during DLSU's match versus the UP Fighting Maroons last Saturday, which his team won in a rout, 85-63.
A former teammate / friend would never do that! haha!
3.) “Sa amin, we were not supposed to review these things,” said Jao. “What we review is the calls of the referees but because it’s out there, I have no choice but to look at it.”
The UAAP has set a lot of precedents that they reviewed things like this even if it was not called by the refs.
Like charles Mammie - he was suspended for two games even when there was no call on him and it was only reviewed on tape that he got a suspension!
University of the East Red Warriors coach Boysie Zamar ripped the UAAP technical committee's decision Friday to uphold the two-game suspension of their center, Charles Mammie.
In a phone interview with GMA News Online, Zamar felt the committee needed to give more consideration to the circumstances before and during the play.
"They have to give the three referees the benefit of the doubt," said Zamar, adding that the contact was clearly unintentional and that no foul was called on the floor.
then of course the UAAP does this :-
http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/don-trollano-suspension-stands-adamson-forward-to-miss-game-against-ust
But in this game, trollano was caught by the referees.
haha! lesson is don't get caught! you won't be punished as the commissioner can only review calls made in game. if that's the official stance then hopefully they stick to it and not flip flop.
Post by: heisenbergman on Jul 23, 2014 at 09:38 PM
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Jul 23, 2014 at 10:11 PM
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jul 23, 2014 at 10:57 PM
Who won in the games today? Did DLSU finally get a W?
yep. a tight game between NU and DLSU. Jason Perkins saved the day for DLSU.
Post by: mattia on Jul 24, 2014 at 01:45 PM
"Nakaw" is what they call it on street lingo. Similar to many Ginebra plays where Jawo is the passer.
Sunday game between UE and DLSU will be an exciting one.
Post by: Verbl Kint on Jul 26, 2014 at 04:56 PM
Post by: mattia on Jul 26, 2014 at 08:00 PM
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 27, 2014 at 07:09 AM
NU beat Ateneo 64-60 which leaves UE as the only unbeaten team in the UAAP. The UE DLSU match tomorrow will be a good one.
Final 4 this season should be DLSU, Ateneo, UE and NU.
Post by: brainwashed on Jul 27, 2014 at 06:45 PM
NU beat Ateneo 64-60 which leaves UE as the only unbeaten team in the UAAP. The UE DLSU match tomorrow will be a good one.
DLSU beat UE 60-58. All teams have now been beaten.
Post by: Superman on Jul 27, 2014 at 06:47 PM
DLSU beat UE 60-58. All teams have now bean beaten.
Wasn't a pretty game for the Archers. 23 TOs in the first half. But, a win is still a win. Kudos to Jeron Teng and Norbert Torres!
Post by: rog78 on Jul 28, 2014 at 09:14 AM
http://www.topgear.com.ph/news/motoring-news/petron-value-card-holders-to-get-free-tickets-to-2014-uaap-games
Post by: mattia on Jul 28, 2014 at 09:15 AM
Good sa mga Petron Card Holder - free parking
http://www.topgear.com.ph/news/motoring-news/petron-value-card-holders-to-get-free-tickets-to-2014-uaap-games
NICE!!
Post by: mattia on Jul 28, 2014 at 09:16 AM
Wasn't a pretty game for the Archers. 23 TOs in the first half. But, a win is still a win. Kudos to Jeron Teng and Norbert Torres!
The UE trap defense was a beauty to watch, forcing 36 TOs for the Archers. But I guess napagod din players ng UE sa ginawa nila. For you to do that all game long, your players must really be in top condition. And the championship experience of DLSU proved crucial in the dying minutes. Congrats to DLSU.
Post by: mattia on Jul 28, 2014 at 12:10 PM
I think this is what La Salle didn't like when the Pumarens were at the helm. They pointed out this flaw of the full court press.
Post by: deist on Jul 28, 2014 at 12:29 PM
Post by: mattia on Jul 28, 2014 at 04:26 PM
Post by: mattia on Jul 30, 2014 at 05:56 PM
FEU beats UE, despite 31 turnovers. Same story as DLSU.
The problem really with an all game long full court press is that it must be executed with perfection and ALL PLAYERS DOING HIS PART. If not players tend to get exhausted, tired to score efficiently.
Just like what happened again vs FEU. Napagod ulit players ng UE. Dapat super fit ang mga players talaga.
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jul 30, 2014 at 06:00 PM
http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/feu
FEU beats UE, despite 31 turnovers. Same story as DLSU.
The problem really with an all game long full court press is that it must executed with perfection and ALL PLAYERS DOING HIS PART. If not players tend to get exhausted, tired to score efficiently.
Just like what happened again vs FEU. Napagod ulit players ng UE. Dapat super fit ang mga players talaga.
Agree. I don't understand why they keep on pressing when they've got Charles Mammie protecting the ring. They should let Super Roi Sumang do the offense with Arafat contributing and Charles mammie protecting the paint.
Post by: mattia on Jul 30, 2014 at 06:16 PM
Agree. I don't understand why they keep on pressing when they've got Charles Mammie protecting the ring. They should let Super Roi Sumang do the offense with Arafat contributing and Charles mammie protecting the paint.
If I were UE, I'd use the press when needed only para unpredictable sila. And they keep fresh legs. Meron dapat silang ibang defensive play na interspersed with the press. But di naman ako coach so IMO lang naman.. hehehe.
Post by: mattia on Jul 30, 2014 at 06:18 PM
Unfortunate that NCAA games are less watched than the UAAP. NCAA has been having some great games lately...
Post by: steelcrazy on Jul 31, 2014 at 07:31 AM
If I were UE, I'd use the press when needed only para unpredictable sila. And they keep fresh legs. Meron dapat silang ibang defensive play na interspersed with the press. But di naman ako coach so IMO lang naman.. hehehe.
The suffocating full court press is the trade mark of the Pumaren System so I doubt they will ever change it.
Post by: SiCkBoY on Jul 31, 2014 at 10:54 AM
Post by: mattia on Aug 02, 2014 at 12:44 PM
NCAA games have been very good lately ;D
Post by: vinci on Aug 02, 2014 at 04:31 PM
Post by: mattia on Aug 03, 2014 at 12:40 AM
sir. san televised ncaa games?
TV5 and Aksyon TV --- Channels 10 and 59 sa Skycable
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 03, 2014 at 04:19 PM
NU is a serious contender for the championship this season even w/o Parks.
I think they're the best defensive team so far into the season.
Post by: heisenbergman on Aug 03, 2014 at 08:03 PM
Post by: frootloops on Aug 03, 2014 at 08:07 PM
==================
NCAA Jrs: San Beda massacres Lyceum, 171-14
MANILA, Philippines—The San Beda Red Cubs on Monday, July 2, clobbered the Lyceum Junior Pirates by an astounding 171-14.
PBA anchor Aaron Atayde posted the final score via his Twitter account.
The win (and the final score) obviously didn't come as a surprise at all. At halftime, the score was already at 92-2.
This isn't the San Beda Juniors' squad's first impressive win in the current National Collegiate Athletic Association season. Last week, they won 104-70 over Arellano University.
It also isn't the first time the Red Cubs ended up clobbering an opponent. Twitter user Nardy Madrasto (@NardyM) posted this piece of trivia on Twitter:
The Red Cubs' dominance isn't completely unexpected; they emerged champions of the last NCAA season with a clean 18-0 record at the end of the eliminations.
Their only loss of the season came during the Finals series against the La Salle Greenhills Greenies.
Still, the 171-14 win is rather surprising given the huge gap. Here's how people on social media are reacting:
Source (http://www.rappler.com/sports/university/news/7956-ncaa-jrs-san-beda-massacre-lyceum,-171-14
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Post by: mattia on Aug 03, 2014 at 09:07 PM
Wow impressed with Ateneo. Would never have predicted that they would beat DLSU and FEU in any round this season.
Very nice game. Racela ibang klase ang confidence. Big time closer yang batang yan.
Post by: vinci on Aug 04, 2014 at 08:04 AM
TV5 and Aksyon TV --- Channels 10 and 59 sa Skycable
thanks sir!
NCAA Jrs: San Beda massacres Lyceum, 171-14
Wow. though 2012 pa pala yan.
Post by: frootloops on Aug 04, 2014 at 11:22 AM
Wow. though 2012 pa pala yan.
Yes. Pwede naman mag share ng luma di ba? Parang laro lang ng Adamson kailan lang, gusto ng maglaro ni Duremdes sa inis.
Post by: vinci on Aug 04, 2014 at 12:19 PM
Very nice game. Racela ibang klase ang confidence. Big time closer yang batang yan.
You mean Ravena?
Kiefer is playing like a true King Eagle na. Hanep.
Post by: mattia on Aug 04, 2014 at 12:41 PM
pati si Vince Hizon. ;D
You mean Ravena?
Kiefer is playing like a true King Eagle na. Hanep.
Yes, Ravena. Sorry.
Post by: mattia on Aug 05, 2014 at 05:12 PM
Kobe Paras being recruited to play in the US NCAA.
If we go by the suggestion of some to disallow "imports" here in the NCAA & UAAP, then Kobe should not play as well in the US NCAA? Same argument right? Sayang naman ;D
Post by: puffalan84 on Aug 05, 2014 at 05:36 PM
Post by: newwaveboy on Aug 05, 2014 at 06:15 PM
https://ph.sports.yahoo.com/news/kobe-paras-being-recruited-university-143918528--ncaab.html
Kobe Paras being recruited to play in the US NCAA.
If we go by the suggestion of some to disallow "imports" here in the NCAA & UAAP, then Kobe should not play as well in the US NCAA? Same argument right? Sayang naman ;D
Not the same bro ...... aside from Kobe Paras, I cant recall anyone else now and in the recent past (or even in the not so recent past), who've been recruited and courted to play collegiate hoops stateside.
One cant even put Japeth in the same boat, since he was hardly recruited and mostly tried-out on his own to get a slot in an NCAA program.
So, Kobe Paras is a very small blip in a big radar ....... if it does happen, he wont be creating a stir by displacing many other just-as-worthy recruits.
As for the imports playing here - they are everywhere, in both big and small collegiate leagues.
Like I've posted more than a few times, basketball is one sport where our country has an over-abundance of talent ....... thousands just waiting to be discovered and given their shot.
Post by: SiCkBoY on Aug 05, 2014 at 07:14 PM
Post by: krets pulpol on Aug 06, 2014 at 01:15 PM
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/08/06/14/watch-kobe-paras-dunks-over-lsgh-teammates
Kulit lang ng mga batang 'to ;D
Sayang, if he won't suit up for the green and white jersey. But it won't guarantee La Salle a championship. Maybe he looks like Van Opstal, only good in juniors but struggled in the seniors.
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Aug 06, 2014 at 01:29 PM
Kobe?
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/08/06/14/watch-kobe-paras-dunks-over-lsgh-teammates
Kulit lang ng mga batang 'to ;D
Sayang, if he won't suit up for the green and white jersey. But it won't guarantee La Salle a championship. Maybe he looks like Van Opstal, only good in juniors but struggled in the seniors.
He's already attending an LA based school - Cathedral High School. He graduated already from LSGH last year and there was speculation as to where he would go. His father said that it would be DLSU if the US plans falls through since they owe a huge debt of gratitude to Danding Cojuangco.
He's being recruited now by a NCAA div I school -University of California, Irvine (UC Irvine) Anteaters.
UC Irvine offered 2016 6-foot-6 Wing Kobe Paras out of Cathedral HS (CA) today according to a source.
Post by: heisenbergman on Aug 06, 2014 at 01:54 PM
DLSU automatic +1 win later, kalaban UP eh! :D
Post by: comet on Aug 06, 2014 at 01:56 PM
Post by: krets pulpol on Aug 06, 2014 at 02:28 PM
He's already attending an LA based school - Cathedral High School. He graduated already from LSGH last year and there was speculation as to where he would go. His father said that it would be DLSU if the US plans falls through since they owe a huge debt of gratitude to Danding Cojuangco.
He's being recruited now by a NCAA div I school -University of California, Irvine (UC Irvine) Anteaters.
UC Irvine offered 2016 6-foot-6 Wing Kobe Paras out of Cathedral HS (CA) today according to a source.
Yes, but I was hoping if they get him then ibabangko lang sana dito na lang sya.
Post by: heisenbergman on Aug 06, 2014 at 02:49 PM
Post by: heisenbergman on Aug 06, 2014 at 03:06 PM
DLSU 50 - UP 24
Post by: the_w0rks on Aug 06, 2014 at 03:33 PM
Halftime
DLSU 50 - UP 24
go for broke, UP! woot. hahaha
Yes, but I was hoping if they get him then ibabangko lang sana dito na lang sya.
Malalaman natin next year. Di pa yata nagstart high school season in Kobe e. Pag maganda pinakita niya sa Cathedral, baka dumami pa mga magrecruit sakanya. Kaso baka masapawan siya nung Brazilian teammate nya na mas tinitingnan ng scouts. Pero ok na din na kateam nya yun, at least pag madami scouts umattend ng games, may chance na mapansin din si Kobe.
Post by: jjjeronimo on Aug 06, 2014 at 03:42 PM
@GoArchers Jeron Teng and UP and are tied with 15 points each #GoLaSalle
Post by: mattia on Aug 06, 2014 at 03:57 PM
San Beda led by as many as 17 points then Perpetual rallied and almost won the ballgame if the 3 pts shot had gone in at the buzzer. Final Score : 77-75
Post by: heisenbergman on Aug 06, 2014 at 04:08 PM
DLSU 74 - UP 53
Post by: heisenbergman on Aug 06, 2014 at 05:31 PM
ADMU 28 - UST 25
Post by: leomarley on Aug 06, 2014 at 05:48 PM
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Post by: Verbl Kint on Aug 06, 2014 at 06:01 PM
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Post by: heisenbergman on Aug 06, 2014 at 06:13 PM
1:39 left in 4Q.
Nailbiter!
Post by: comet on Aug 06, 2014 at 06:17 PM
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Post by: heisenbergman on Aug 06, 2014 at 06:26 PM
Ateneo wins over UST 63-61.
:D
Post by: heisenbergman on Aug 06, 2014 at 06:26 PM
Post by: puffalan84 on Aug 06, 2014 at 06:26 PM
Post by: leomarley on Aug 06, 2014 at 06:27 PM
Post by: Superman on Aug 06, 2014 at 06:28 PM
In the end, the dagger shot of Kiefer won it for the Blue Eagles. Congrats!
Dominating win as well by DLSU...
Sunday's games are interesting: UE vs. ADMU, DLSU vs. UST
Post by: garee on Aug 06, 2014 at 06:30 PM
Post by: heisenbergman on Aug 06, 2014 at 06:31 PM
UE vs. ADMUNakakatakot ang full court press ng UE :-\
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 06, 2014 at 10:03 PM
Nakakatakot ang full court press ng UE :-\
Ateneo also using pressure defense to stimulate its running game.
UE hasn't been successful against Final 4 teams like FEU, DLSU and NU.
The full court press system of Pumaren isn't suitable for his post player in Mamie that's why he hasn't been as dominating like last season.
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 09, 2014 at 05:17 PM
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Aug 09, 2014 at 06:52 PM
Quote
It's over.http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/374118/sports/campussports/uaap-up-fights-ends-27-game-losing-streak-with-win-against-adamson
The University of the Philippines Fighting Maroons ended their 27-game losing streak by overwhelming the hapless Adamson University Falcons, 77-64, on Saturday at the MOA Arena in Pasay City.
Post by: Wiggum on Aug 09, 2014 at 07:33 PM
Post by: leomarley on Aug 09, 2014 at 10:40 PM
Not Used To Bonfires, UP Diliman Accidentally Burns Down
LOL ;D
Post by: the_w0rks on Aug 10, 2014 at 01:27 AM
Post by: tonedeaf on Aug 10, 2014 at 07:46 AM
Dont know which is more pathetic - ADU losing to UP or UP celebrating its UnangPanalo with a bang. I say it's the latter but the former isnt that far away.You can't lose them all! # upfight :D
Post by: the_w0rks on Aug 10, 2014 at 08:25 AM
You can't lose them all! # upfight :D
hahaha! Natawa ako. Definitely puts a fresh spin of the "can't win 'em all" phrase - UP style.
Post by: heisenbergman on Aug 10, 2014 at 02:45 PM
Nakakatakot ang full court press ng UE :-\UE 28 - ADMU 10
:-/
Post by: heisenbergman on Aug 10, 2014 at 04:58 PM
Ateneo 93 - UE 91
Kiefer Ravena 39 points!
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 10, 2014 at 05:12 PM
Game of the Year right there :D
Ateneo 93 - UE 91
Kiefer Ravena 39 points!
Probably the highest scoring UAAP game ever!
Ravena for MVP!
Post by: newwaveboy on Aug 10, 2014 at 06:32 PM
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Post by: Superman on Aug 10, 2014 at 08:35 PM
The DLSU-UST game was a coach's game...evident that Bong dela Cruz was outcoached by Coach Juno. DLSU was undermanned (AVO, Thomas, Kib, Norbert). Kudos to Julian Sargent and Abu Tratter...Prince Ricero was again a silent operator. ANIMO!
Post by: Verbl Kint on Aug 10, 2014 at 09:04 PM
I was not a believer in Bo Perasol but it seems his system (and aggressive recruitment) is working. The team has good fitness, end-game poise, above-average defense and confidence in offense.
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 11, 2014 at 12:19 AM
It's honestly a pleasant surprise that Ateneo comes out on top after the first round. Prior to the start of the season, many were even thinking that the Blue Eagles would have to battle hard for a Final 4 slot.
I was not a believer in Bo Perasol but it seems his system (and aggressive recruitment) is working. The team has good fitness, end-game poise, above-average defense and confidence in offense.
Coach Bo is definitely a good coach or MVP and the Ateneo will never had considered him as a replacement for Norman Black.
It was unfortunate for him last season that Ravena got injured at the start of the season and his suspensions really affected the team's performance.
Now, he's more comfortable coaching the collegiate level and it's proven by the #1 in standings at the end of the 1st round.
Post by: newwaveboy on Aug 11, 2014 at 07:00 AM
However, the UAAP is 'easier' in the sense that you preach hard work and possess a stacked roster (especially if you have strong guard play) - you'll probably going to make the Final Four.
Kudos to ADMU players for their very steady play/demeanor and being on top after Round 1 ...... kudos even to Perasol for preaching decent defense.
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 11, 2014 at 07:04 AM
Bo Perasol s*cked bigtime as a coach in the pros ...... easily one of the worst. Ever.
However, the UAAP is 'easier' in the sense that you preach hard work and possess a stacked roster (especially if you have strong guard play) - you'll probably going to make the Final Four.
Kudos to ADMU players for their very steady play/demeanor and being on top after Round 1 ...... kudos even to Perasol for preaching decent defense.
Well, he's still one of the few coaches to coach in the PBA finals twice with Air 21 and Powerade.
Even the PBA Grand Slam coach Norman Black needs some transition period to be successful in the collegiate level.
Post by: newwaveboy on Aug 11, 2014 at 07:17 AM
Well, he's still one of the few coaches to coach in the PBA finals twice with Air 21 and Powerade.
Even the PBA Grand Slam coach Norman Black needs some transition period to be successful in the collegiate level.
Norman Black did great right off the bat, when he came into the UAAP ...... made the F4 and entered the Finals during his first 2 years, then everything that followed was historic.
Black has always been known for strong old-school defense and the transition to the UAAP was going to be smooth - like everyone expected.
As for Perasol, that AIR21 Finals stint was a blip in a sea of disappointments ...... that conference, AIR21 paraded a very loaded veteran roster (Arwind, David, Ranidel, etc) plus got a superior import in Thomas, who towered above everybody else except for BGK's Alexander.
That POWERADE Finals was an even bigger anomaly - Gary David went super-saiyan in the closing minutes and stunned Tim Cone's SMC team ........ POWERADE got waylaid against TnT in the Finals.
Bo Perasol is a neighbor here in Laguna ...... everyone in the community here considered him a failure during his PBA stint.
Indeed, the collegiate game might be where Perasol makes his mark ....... he might just salvage his coaching career.
Post by: puffalan84 on Aug 11, 2014 at 12:20 PM
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 11, 2014 at 04:09 PM
UE team is very impressive, all players are athletic, grabe mga tumalon and masisipag.. bust if they can't get to F4..
It boils down to experience specially during crucial stages of the game.
They still have a lot to learn.
Post by: Superman on Aug 11, 2014 at 04:21 PM
Very different during the championship run of DLSU where the potent full court press was used from start to finish...
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Aug 11, 2014 at 04:31 PM
The dreaded full court press is dependent on how the players can sustain this until the very last second of the game...the past 3 games, quite evident that UE cannot sustain the full court press 'til crunch time.
Very different during the championship run of DLSU where the potent full court press was used from start to finish...
Post by: Superman on Aug 11, 2014 at 04:37 PM
The Pumaren system is player dependent. Each one has a role. I believe that's where UE pales in comparison vs. the Pumaren DLSU championship teams
Post by: puffalan84 on Aug 11, 2014 at 07:29 PM
It boils down to experience specially during crucial stages of the game.
They still have a lot to learn.
I agree.. ang sisipag..
Post by: Onkyo606 on Aug 11, 2014 at 10:06 PM
Kiefer was a monster! Hands down the best collegiate player today (next is Jeron Teng)...Congrats Ateneo!
he is really good but may have become far better becasue of his invisible high five friend
Post by: heisenbergman on Aug 12, 2014 at 08:59 AM
Post by: newwaveboy on Aug 12, 2014 at 09:05 AM
^ huh?
Here it is bro ....... first seen in the NBA, when a FT shooter had no one to high-five with. :)
http://micohaliliblogs.blogspot.com/2014/08/kiefer-ravena-high-fives-invisible.html
Post by: mattia on Aug 12, 2014 at 09:35 AM
Probably the highest scoring UAAP game ever!
Ravena for MVP!
Ravena played like an import!
Post by: puffalan84 on Aug 12, 2014 at 09:51 AM
Post by: mattia on Aug 12, 2014 at 10:02 AM
Controversy in the upcoming NCAA All Star game.
In the news, the NCAA committee mentioned that it was the coaches decision not to field imports.
Just to set the record straight, here's what happened according to an assistant coach (EAC) who called me up. Committee Chairman Supan asked for list of players they like to field in the All Star but specifically mentioned "no imports please". Now he's singing a different tune when the rule got a flak from everyone. Again, it wasn't the coaches' decision but the Chairman's decision not to field imports.
IMO, it's an All Star, not an All Pinoy exhibition. Let the stars play, whether Pinoy or not.
Post by: deist on Aug 12, 2014 at 10:15 AM
Post by: heisenbergman on Aug 12, 2014 at 10:15 AM
Here it is bro ....... first seen in the NBA, when a FT shooter had no one to high-five with. :)Hahahaha!
http://micohaliliblogs.blogspot.com/2014/08/kiefer-ravena-high-fives-invisible.html
I think some players really do that as part of their freethrow routine, para always within rhythm ang tira nila sa freethrow line ;D
Post by: newwaveboy on Aug 12, 2014 at 10:21 AM
Post by: mattia on Aug 12, 2014 at 10:31 AM
Kiefer's rise to stardom is good for local basketball, it's been a while since we last saw a player who can handle & deliver in clutch plays with finesse & confidence. He responds well to the late game plays specifically drawn for him by Ronnie Magsanoc. I hope he continues to play at such a high level. A sure shoo-in for MVP this season.
Agree. I haven't seen a player this good in collegiate basketball. I keep telling my son to watch out for him especially when he plays in the PBA.
Post by: mattia on Aug 12, 2014 at 10:37 AM
^ Yup. It's still just a game after all ...... those routines keeps you relaxed as well.
Interesting clip. May pampabwenas din pala si Kiefer. Reminds you of Iverson ( tapping his left forearm ), Mark Jackson (Hail Hitler to the rim), Jason Kidd ( flying kiss ), Jeff Hornacek (rubbing his cheeks), Karl Malone ( talking to an invisible friend in front of him) and Marlou Aquino ( wrap around ).
Post by: heisenbergman on Aug 12, 2014 at 10:57 AM
But I can't see it.
I've watched Kiefer in the juniors and I've watched Thirdy since they were both in the juniors team but I can't see it.
Sana mali ako at maging mamaw din tong si Thirdy ;D Hehe.
Post by: mattia on Aug 12, 2014 at 11:07 AM
I've heard it said more than once na mas magaling pa daw di Thirdy kesa kay Kiefer.
But I can't see it.
I've watched Kiefer in the juniors and I've watched Thirdy since they were both in the juniors team but I can't see it.
Sana mali ako at maging mamaw din tong si Thirdy ;D Hehe.
Really? Baka naman sa PS4 talo si Kiefer. Hahaha. Just kidding.
Kiefer's act is hard to top.
Post by: SiCkBoY on Aug 12, 2014 at 11:46 AM
Sa DLSU, ang backup center ni Dickie Bachmann eh si Jun Limpot :)
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 12, 2014 at 01:44 PM
Well, it's possible na mas magaling si Juniors si Thirdy, and mas magaling sa seniors si Kiefer.
Sa DLSU, ang backup center ni Dickie Bachmann eh si Jun Limpot :)
Thirdy is just a rookie and will develop into a much better player in the years to come.
Post by: puffalan84 on Aug 12, 2014 at 02:10 PM
Thirdy is just a rookie and will develop into a much better player in the years to come.
but kiefer and jeron were already good during freshman year nila.. mahirap lng siguro kay thirdy pareho nya yata ng position ung newsome, kaya hirap din sa playing time.. siguro 15-20 mins lng same dun sa rookie from dlsu..
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 12, 2014 at 02:15 PM
RAVENA - ok sa UAAP sana ok din sa PBA....baka medyo mahirapan lang due to size.
TENG of DLSU...hindi talaga ako mapabilib ewan ko..siguro not my type of player.. good upper body , malakas katawan... siguro type ko ung mga mabibilis at slasher maglaro
Post by: newwaveboy on Aug 12, 2014 at 03:32 PM
Like Don Paolo, he can be dominant at the colleagiate game but might be average in the pros, due to his lack of size and speed ...... the PBA is a different beast altogether - guards and forwards are much bigger, faster, stronger and physical.
The good things about Ravena - he's a natural scorer, great handle for the ball and seems to be a willing passer.
Heck, if guards who cant make their own shot (e.g. Fonacier) thrived in the pros, when put in a great system ....... Kiefer might just live up to his monicker, when placed on the right team.
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 12, 2014 at 05:00 PM
I've always pegged Kiefer Ravena as a Paulo Mendoza 2.0 when he reaches the PBA.
Like Don Paolo, he can be dominant at the colleagiate game but might be average in the pros, due to his lack of size and speed ...... the PBA is a different beast altogether - guards and forwards are much bigger, faster, stronger and physical.
The good things about Ravena - he's a natural scorer, great handle for the ball and seems to be a willing passer.
Heck, if guards who cant make their own shot (e.g. Fonacier) thrived in the pros, when put in a great system ....... Kiefer might just live up to his monicker, when placed on the right team.
Why compare Keifer to former Maroon Paolo Mendoza?
Paolo Mendoza is just a shooter and didnt have the athleticism of Kiefer who can attack the basket aside from having a decent outside shot.
Keifer will make it big in the PBA.
He can play the guard position like a Jimmy Alapag or Jason Castro and becoz of the evolution of basketball nowadays which is more suitable for high scoring guards rather than post players, Kiefer will definitely excel.
In fact, I want to see Kiefer playing for Gilas and polish his game more in high level international competitions.
Another guard who I'm sure will also make it big in the PBA is Roy Sumang.
Now who is better?
Keifer or Sumang? Given a chance who between the 2 will you draft first in line?
Post by: newwaveboy on Aug 12, 2014 at 05:50 PM
Mendoza was the top overall pick when he entered the PBA draft ....... speaks volumes on how legitimate he was, when he was drafted first overall.
However, he was forced to change his game since the PBA had the taller, stronger and quicker guards. He didn't find the same success in the pros.
I'd like nothing more than for a hardworking player like Ravena, to make it big in the PBA ...... like I said, he is a natural scorer and these types find a way.
Roy Sumang ....... not to underestimate him, I dont think he'll make it big in the pros. He'll make a decent rotation guy, on a right team.
Similar to Sumang, many bought in to the Ryan Buenafe hype entering the PBA - I stood by my claim that he wont make it big as he is literally big ...... Buenafe hardly played and was recently in the PBA dispersal draft.
Post by: Verbl Kint on Aug 13, 2014 at 04:22 AM
There is a bit of luck involved (fitting into a system, injuries) and it doesn't necessarily follow a specific formula. For instance, there have been countless draft lottery picks and rookie of the year awardees who have not been able to capitalize on this award (Rich Alvarez, for one). There have also been players who were almost not drafted, had so-so rookie, soph and junior seasons, only to come out as late bloomers (Jeff Chan, Larry Fonacier, another example would be the late 80's Ginebra stars Gonzalgo and Distrito).
As for Paolo Mendoza, he didn't have a bad career. He didn't score 40+ points like he did in the UAAP but he did have flashes of brilliance when he was with Sta. Lucia and was part of the starting five for years. Even in his rookie year, Mendoza was already a starter. Honestly, Ravena would be lucky to have a career as long as Mendoza's. :)
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 13, 2014 at 07:11 AM
To make it in the PBA, the importance is residency and exposure plus of course if they can stay out of injury. Their talents will be wasted if they'll be traded like a ping pong ball from teams to teams specially to those farm teams like Global Port and Air 21.
Post by: heisenbergman on Aug 13, 2014 at 09:48 AM
Are there games today?
Post by: Superman on Aug 13, 2014 at 10:51 AM
Although tentatively, the DLSU vs. ADMU game shall be on August 23 at MOA
Post by: newwaveboy on Aug 13, 2014 at 12:51 PM
Speculating on who makes it in the pros will always be an engaging discussion. :)
There is a bit of luck involved (fitting into a system, injuries) and it doesn't necessarily follow a specific formula. For instance, there have been countless draft lottery picks and rookie of the year awardees who have not been able to capitalize on this award (Rich Alvarez, for one). There have also been players who were almost not drafted, had so-so rookie, soph and junior seasons, only to come out as late bloomers (Jeff Chan, Larry Fonacier, another example would be the late 80's Ginebra stars Gonzalgo and Distrito).
As for Paolo Mendoza, he didn't have a bad career. He didn't score 40+ points like he did in the UAAP but he did have flashes of brilliance when he was with Sta. Lucia and was part of the starting five for years. Even in his rookie year, Mendoza was already a starter. Honestly, Ravena would be lucky to have a career as long as Mendoza's. :)
Exactly ..... Paolo Mendoza had a decent PBA career, something which Ravena can strive for and very possibly improve upon.
I had used Paolo Mendoza as a possible ceiling for Kiefer, since I see similarities on their abilities and possible limitations when turning pro ....... Paolo and his older brother were childhood friends of mine and add the fact that I some close ties with then SLR team in the PBA - I was able to follow Paolo's game.
As for Rich Alvarez, not to brag, but more than a few (including myself), saw then that he had some ability but was a bit on the overhyped side entering the pros ..... I wasn't surprised that he flamed out early in his PBA career. Alvarez had a very shaky, high-arching jumper, he can only go right and was over-powered by stronger bigs in the PBA.
Heard news that he's trying out for 2 PBA expansion teams (BLACKWATER and KIA) ...... good for him if he ever does make it back to the PBA.
Post by: paolorenzo on Aug 13, 2014 at 01:22 PM
Opposite is another Blue Eagle, Olcen Ra-ra Racela. He blossomed in the PBA and was heralded best point guard in the PBA at one point of his career.
Post by: heisenbergman on Aug 13, 2014 at 03:33 PM
UE 37 - UST 21 6:17 3Q
Post by: puffalan84 on Aug 13, 2014 at 03:45 PM
Post by: heisenbergman on Aug 13, 2014 at 03:50 PM
Post by: heisenbergman on Aug 13, 2014 at 04:07 PM
UE 60 - UST 45
Post by: Verbl Kint on Aug 13, 2014 at 04:14 PM
what's wrong with UST.. with mariano and ferrer, I really thought they're going to be one of the best this year, mukhang mag struggle pa sila to reach f4..
It seems Pido's resignation hit them hard. I expect them to rebound in the second round, though, and finish the season strong.
Post by: heisenbergman on Aug 13, 2014 at 04:26 PM
Grabe 20 point lead yan with 2 minutes to go.
Kailangan talagang paghusayan ng UE mag-closeout ng games.
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 13, 2014 at 08:13 PM
For me, the player who was stellar in UAAP, but was mediocre in the PBA was Gilbert "Jun" Reyes. He was hoisting half court game winners in the UAAP, but had difficulty in the pros. Similar case is Richie Ticzon.
Opposite is another Blue Eagle, Olcen Ra-ra Racela. He blossomed in the PBA and was heralded best point guard in the PBA at one point of his career.
Racela was lucky to be the main point guard for San Miguel for years.
He simply fitted the Ron Jacobs system of the team ran by Uichico and Tanquiencen.
Post by: Verbl Kint on Aug 13, 2014 at 08:52 PM
Racela was lucky to be the main point guard for San Miguel for years.
He simply fitted the Ron Jacobs system of the team ran by Uichico and Tanquiencen.
He wasn't flashy or cat-quick like most PG's but he was unselfish, consistent, not prone to errors and had good fitness; a pure point guard. He worked on his 3-point shooting a lot during the Ron Jacobs years, too.
By the late 90's he was almost equal in reputation to the great Johnny A.
Post by: mattia on Aug 14, 2014 at 11:30 AM
Played for the Stags from 1986 to 1989
– Led SSC-R Stags to 2 straight Championships
– 2 time MVP (1987-1988)
– Led SSC-R Stags to the first perfect record in NCAA history in 1988
Eugene Quilban??! Just like in UAAP (remember Jun Reyes of ADMU?), NCAA also had a dominating player who after college became an unknown in the basketball world but looking at Quilban’s stats and you’ll see how dominant Eugene is. Another Stags great, Eugene was the main key why the Stags broke the streak of Letran in the mid 80’s. The great point guard played an all-around game that made him so dominant that led his team to 2 straight Championships.
Post by: puffalan84 on Aug 14, 2014 at 11:41 AM
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 14, 2014 at 05:18 PM
^ In the NCAA, Eugene Quilban comes to mind.
Played for the Stags from 1986 to 1989
– Led SSC-R Stags to 2 straight Championships
– 2 time MVP (1987-1988)
– Led SSC-R Stags to the first perfect record in NCAA history in 1988
Eugene Quilban??! Just like in UAAP (remember Jun Reyes of ADMU?), NCAA also had a dominating player who after college became an unknown in the basketball world but looking at Quilban’s stats and you’ll see how dominant Eugene is. Another Stags great, Eugene was the main key why the Stags broke the streak of Letran in the mid 80’s. The great point guard played an all-around game that made him so dominant that led his team to 2 straight Championships.
If I can remember correctly, his life in the NCAA court was easy becoz of Paul Alvarez.
Post by: mattia on Aug 14, 2014 at 06:17 PM
If I can remember correctly, his life in the NCAA court was easy becoz of Paul Alvarez.
In a way yes but Paul never became MVP in the NCAA. And Eugene had more impact than Paul. When they got to the PBA, it was the other way around. Paul Alvarez had an enormous impact with his electrifying dunks and high flying acts never seen before that earned him the monicker "Mr Excitement". Sadly, Quilban was a nobody in the PBA.
Post by: puffalan84 on Aug 14, 2014 at 08:47 PM
In a way yes but Paul never became MVP in the NCAA. And Eugene had more impact than Paul. When they got to the PBA, it was the other way around. Paul Alvarez had an enormous impact with his electrifying dunks and high flying acts never seen before that earned him the monicker "Mr Excitement". Sadly, Quilban was a nobody in the PBA.
I remember quilban and dindo pumaren teamed up to guard johnny a, as in sabay sila sa court.. they had success for a while..
Post by: newwaveboy on Aug 14, 2014 at 10:13 PM
Quilban's first few years in the PBA, were acutally very decent ...... unforunate that Tim Cone's system didn't need scoring PG's.
Like I said, the PBA is a very tough league - pros are much stronger, faster, taller and a lot more physical.
The PBA has around 8-10 teams for most if its existence ....... at most, that's just about 150 roster spots and the veterans aren't going to yield their spots easily.
Kung hanggang ngayon nga naglalaro pa din sina Helterbrand, Alapag, Raymundo, Belasco, Menk, Pena, Ildefonso, Taulava, Laure, Arboleda, etc ..... deserving (ex. Taulava) or not (ex. Helterbrand), these vets will still get minutes for many reasons.
Kaya kapag marginal collegiate talent ka lang or you dont adjust and change your game accordingly, the PBA is a tough league to crack ..... being a superstar in the collegiate ranks is far from being a guarantee for PBA minutes.
Post by: Wiggum on Aug 15, 2014 at 07:31 AM
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Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Aug 15, 2014 at 08:47 AM
Read that the next DLSU-ADMU game will be this Sunday, after a last-second change in the second round schedule. Anybody have inside info on what happened here? Mukang dehado DLSU with all their injuries. They were supposed to just face UP first.
Nabago daw ba yung sched na ito? :o
(http://contents.spin.ph/image/INSET-590-UAAP-second-round-81414.jpg)
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Aug 15, 2014 at 09:45 AM
Read that the next DLSU-ADMU game will be this Sunday, after a last-second change in the second round schedule. Anybody have inside info on what happened here? Mukang dehado DLSU with all their injuries. They were supposed to just face UP first.
UE this season's host for some strange reason changed the schedule twice yesterday! Usually, there's a one week break between the 1st round and 2nd round to iron out the logistics. but they decided to have no break, release the 2nd round sked yesterday (which is supposed to be based on standings) then suddenly rumors were rife that on saturday instead of UST it would be DLSU. After a few hours, it then became a sunday game.
UE has not released the 2nd round sked after the changes in the games. I reserve judgement until i see the 2nd round sked fully but mukhang nangangamoy na one team *hosts* does not want to get booted out of the final four. hehe
Post by: Superman on Aug 15, 2014 at 09:55 AM
Nabago daw ba yung sched na ito? :o
(http://contents.spin.ph/image/INSET-590-UAAP-second-round-81414.jpg)
Yes. DLSU-ADMU game will be Aug. 17 Sunday 4:00PM. Initial reports say it will be in Araneta BUT may be moved to MOA. Final announcements will be made today
Post by: heisenbergman on Aug 15, 2014 at 11:15 AM
medyo critical to especially for the teams playing this weekend (and the fans who plan to watch those games).
Post by: Wiggum on Aug 15, 2014 at 12:41 PM
UE this season's host for some strange reason changed the schedule twice yesterday! Usually, there's a one week break between the 1st round and 2nd round to iron out the logistics. but they decided to have no break, release the 2nd round sked yesterday (which is supposed to be based on standings) then suddenly rumors were rife that on saturday instead of UST it would be DLSU. After a few hours, it then became a sunday game.
UE has not released the 2nd round sked after the changes in the games. I reserve judgement until i see the 2nd round sked fully but mukhang nangangamoy na one team *hosts* does not want to get booted out of the final four. hehe
I see. Hmm.. tomorrow's schedule has UST facing Adamson, and UE facing UP. Interesting... ::)
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 15, 2014 at 06:05 PM
Ravena is leading the MVP race.... 80 statistical points...
With his performance this 1st half of the season, no doubt he should be the season MVP unchallenged.
Post by: heisenbergman on Aug 15, 2014 at 06:15 PM
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Aug 15, 2014 at 06:25 PM
ano nang schedule?! :D
baka hindi na matuloy ung weekend games! haha!
Post by: Verbl Kint on Aug 15, 2014 at 06:37 PM
With his performance this 1st half of the season, no doubt he should be the season MVP unchallenged.
Newsome is third and Arvin Tolentino is also in the top 10, barring injuries, he will probably be ROY.
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 15, 2014 at 07:32 PM
Newsome is third and Arvin Tolentino is also in the top 10, barring injuries, he will probably be ROY.
Arvin Tolentino is the most impressive rookie and is also the reason why Ateneo is on top of the standings after the 1st round.
I dont think any other rookies will come close to beat him for ROY.
Post by: brainwashed on Aug 15, 2014 at 08:53 PM
Arvin Tolentino is the most impressive rookie and is also the reason why Ateneo is on top of the standings after the 1st round.
I dont think any other rookies will come close to beat him for ROY.
Arvin Tolentino may be the most impressive rookie this season but he, definitely, is not the reason why Ateneo is on top of the standings. Obviously, it's Ravena.
Tolentino is a very good big man, though a little bit immature. He has the tendency to commit silly fouls whenever he gets frustrated. He is lazy on defense. And I don't see the reason why he has to ask for the ball at midcourt while the ball is being brought up. But, he still, definitely, is a big plus for Ateneo.
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Aug 16, 2014 at 01:24 AM
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Post by: heisenbergman on Aug 16, 2014 at 05:28 PM
I don't see the reason why he has to ask for the ball at midcourt while the ball is being brought up.I've literally never seen this happen. Maybe if a full court press is being applied, then that's warranted, but I don't remember him doing that really.
Pero parang tamad nga siya gumalaw. Parang walang energy yung movements niya. Buti nalang efficient siya on offense.
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 16, 2014 at 08:42 PM
I've literally never seen this happen. Maybe if a full court press is being applied, then that's warranted, but I don't remember him doing that really.
Pero parang tamad nga siya gumalaw. Parang walang energy yung movements niya. Buti nalang efficient siya on offense.
Without this "lazy rookie", I doubt Ateneo will be on top of the standings in the 1st round even with the superb performance of King Eagle Ravena.
Post by: heisenbergman on Aug 16, 2014 at 10:31 PM
Without this "lazy rookie", I doubt Ateneo will be on top of the standings in the 1st round even with the superb performance of King Eagle Ravena.
No one is denying that or downplaying his contribution to the team.
Fact of the matter is that when you watch him on the court, he moves slow and sluggish. Parang kailangan lumaklak ng Enervon ;D
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 17, 2014 at 05:21 AM
No one is denying that or downplaying his contribution to the team.kelangan lang pupukin siguro para magsipag...
Fact of the matter is that when you watch him on the court, he moves slow and sluggish. Parang kailangan lumaklak ng Enervon ;D
lousy sa defensa... minsan hindi na kelangan ifoul na foul pa..
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 17, 2014 at 06:52 AM
kelangan lang pupukin siguro para magsipag...
lousy sa defensa... minsan hindi na kelangan ifoul na foul pa..
He's just a rookie so allow him some time to develop his body, game and of course attitude.
Who knows after a year or two he'll be the MVP of the UAAP.
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 17, 2014 at 10:40 AM
He's just a rookie so allow him some time to develop his body, game and of course attitude.probably... parang JAMES YAP nung UAAP days..
Who knows after a year or two he'll be the MVP of the UAAP.
Post by: brainwashed on Aug 17, 2014 at 10:50 AM
He's just a rookie so allow him some time to develop his body, game and of course attitude.
Who knows after a year or two he'll be the MVP of the UAAP.
The earlier he gets over his own hype, the better he would be.
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 18, 2014 at 12:50 AM
The injuries to some of their key players gave way for the Archers to fine tune their rookies and prepare them for tougher games ahead.
Its now a 3 way tie by Ateneo, DLSU and FEU on the top.
Post by: Wiggum on Aug 18, 2014 at 07:39 AM
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Post by: mattia on Aug 18, 2014 at 04:48 PM
If this were the NBA, medyo madami na fine si Kiefer ;D
As to the accusations that Ateneo gets lots of fouls and Kiefer has so many trips to the line, you be the judge. Baka naman talagang tight lang ang defense ng kalaban
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 20, 2014 at 06:41 PM
Ravena bailed the Eagles out again with a high arcing trey.
He also had a dunk in this game, actually he's been dunking almost every game and could probably be the player this season with the most dunks.
Arvin Tolentino had limited minutes as Coach Bo preferred Gotladera to take on Mamie.
With already 5 losses to UE, I think it's safe to conclude the Final 4 Ateneo, DLSU, FEU and NU.
Post by: Superman on Aug 20, 2014 at 08:02 PM
Post by: Verbl Kint on Aug 21, 2014 at 02:19 AM
Post by: TOP 20 on Aug 21, 2014 at 02:29 AM
Post by: brainwashed on Aug 21, 2014 at 02:56 AM
Ateneo beat UE again for the 2nd time this season.
Ravena bailed the Eagles out again with a high arcing trey.
He also had a dunk in this game, actually he's been dunking almost every game and could probably be the player this season with the most dunks.
Arvin Tolentino had limited minutes as Coach Bo preferred Gotladera to take on Mamie.
With already 5 losses to UE, I think it's safe to conclude the Final 4 Ateneo, DLSU, FEU and NU.
Gotladera plays like a true DLSU non-superstar big man, effectively without too much fanfare and without complaints. He is the better match-up against Mamie.
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 21, 2014 at 06:59 AM
Gotladera plays like a true DLSU non-superstar big man, effectively without too much fanfare and without complaints. He is the better match-up against Mamie.
He's their stone wall of defense since Coach Bo opted to play small with Ravena, Newsome, Pessumal and Elorde.
Post by: Oloap on Aug 21, 2014 at 08:21 AM
Post by: heisenbergman on Aug 21, 2014 at 11:34 AM
With already 5 losses to UE, I think it's safe to conclude the Final 4 Ateneo, DLSU, FEU and NU.Too early to be really confident, but that's reasonable, yeah.
Let's assume all the top teams will beat UP and ADU (a harsh assumption but realistic). The rest of their schedule would be:
ADMU 9-2 (vs UST, FEU, NU remain)
FEU 8-2 (vs UST, DLSU, UE, ADMU remain)
DLSU 8-2 (vs FEU, UST, UE, NU remain)
NU 7-3 (vs ADMU, UE, UST, DLSU remain)
UST 5-4 (vs FEU, ADMU, DLSU, NU, UE remain)
UE 5-5 (vs NU, FEU, DLSU, UST remain)
So oo nga, medyo dehado na ang UST and UE. But if they both beat NU... and I think UE will repeat over UST... then:
NU 7-5 (vs ADMU & DLSU remain)
UE 7-5 (vs FEU, DLSU remain)
UST 6-5 (vs FEU, ADMU, DLSU remain)
^ May fighting chance pa UE sa 4th spot. I know madaming IFs, pero those are very realistic ifs.
Post by: puffalan84 on Aug 21, 2014 at 12:24 PM
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 21, 2014 at 12:30 PM
i'm not counting out UE yet.. I like their team ang sisipag but unlike ateneo baliktad, they always find a way to lose.. sayang.. sumang is playing ala russel westbrook..oo ehehe..sayang si super sumang....
Post by: Wiggum on Aug 21, 2014 at 01:01 PM
"OMG. Dali, boy, lipad ka na ng Spain. #youarebetterthensomeguysthere"
He has since apologized and deleted the tweet. Iba talaga impact ni Ravena this season :)
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 23, 2014 at 06:21 PM
i'm not counting out UE yet.. I like their team ang sisipag but unlike ateneo baliktad, they always find a way to lose.. sayang.. sumang is playing ala russel westbrook..
They must first control their fate by beating the team in the top bracket and 3 teams are left FEU, DLSU and NU and hope NU loses all their games to the top teams like Ateneo, FEU and DLSU.
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 25, 2014 at 02:34 PM
On Wed, FEU or DLSU will also be at 7 - 3 so I don't think UE can catch up on the 4th spot anymore.
Post by: Superman on Aug 27, 2014 at 06:50 PM
Post by: Wiggum on Aug 27, 2014 at 07:11 PM
Post by: Superman on Aug 27, 2014 at 07:13 PM
Looks like FEU has an inside track on one of the top 2 seeds for the semis. They've swept both DLSU and NU.
Agree!
Also, the top 4 teams now are teams w/ a "system" (Nash, Juno, Bo, Coach A)...Very interesting as we go deep into round 2
Post by: Verbl Kint on Aug 27, 2014 at 07:29 PM
Post by: krets pulpol on Aug 27, 2014 at 07:31 PM
Contrapelo ng Ateneo yung NU but they can take any team any time. FEU is a more fluid team at the moment followed by NU and Ateneo.
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 27, 2014 at 10:11 PM
No choice by both UE and UST to sweep all their remaining games as 1 more defeat by any of them means the season is over.
Post by: heisenbergman on Aug 28, 2014 at 11:52 AM
Post by: Superman on Aug 28, 2014 at 11:56 AM
Post by: heisenbergman on Aug 28, 2014 at 12:01 PM
Post by: sardaukar on Aug 28, 2014 at 12:01 PM
Post by: Superman on Aug 28, 2014 at 12:02 PM
DLSU vs. NU
FEU vs. ADMU
:D
Post by: heisenbergman on Aug 28, 2014 at 12:11 PM
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 28, 2014 at 03:46 PM
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 30, 2014 at 11:28 PM
Post by: Verbl Kint on Aug 31, 2014 at 12:06 AM
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 31, 2014 at 07:12 AM
UST definitely needs to look for a new set of coaches. They have a competitive team, with a marquee name in all positions, but can't seem to get it together.
Ferrer has been sidelined for 3 games and Mariano just like last season has not been playin well.
Vigil cant fill up the gap left by Teng.
Ateneo, NU, FEU and DLSU definitely have better teams than UST this season.
Post by: steelcrazy on Aug 31, 2014 at 06:22 PM
Monster game by Mammie out muscling and out playin Aroga.
Post by: mattia on Aug 31, 2014 at 08:54 PM
UE came in with a lot of energy against NU and most likely they will win this game but I hope they can sustain that energy goin into their last 3 games as they can't afford to lose a single game.
Monster game by Mammie out muscling and out playin Aroga.
Well, UE pala decided to bench Sumang. He reportedly didn't practice yesterday. That's why they won! Really something fishy about how UE have lost close games because of Sumang. So this game tells it all. I thought it was Sumang and Mammie throwing games. Now it's turning out Sumang is the culprit.
Oh my. Why does UE get players like him? Before it was Bonbon Custodio. Now Sumang.
Post by: brainwashed on Aug 31, 2014 at 09:23 PM
Well, UE pala decided to bench Sumang. He reportedly didn't practice yesterday. That's why they won! Really something fishy about how UE have lost close games because of Sumang. So this game tells it all. I thought it was Sumang and Mammie throwing games. Now it's turning out Sumang is the culprit.
Oh my. Why does UE get players like him? Before it was Bonbon Custodio. Now Sumang.
If Sumang was benched for not attending practice, then he was benched for not attending practice. How can his benching lead to the conclusion that he was throwing games? UE winning without Sumang doesn't mean they would have won their other games as well if Sumang wasn't allowed to play. And it doesn't also mean that they lost those games just because of Sumang.
Post by: mattia on Aug 31, 2014 at 09:45 PM
If Sumang was benched for not attending practice, then he was benched for not attending practice. How can his benching lead to the conclusion that he was throwing games? UE winning without Sumang doesn't mean they would have won their other games as well if Sumang wasn't allowed to play. And it doesn't also mean that they lost those games just because of Sumang.
Bossing, I know the coaching staff of UE. They have the same observation. Sumang is suspect for throwing games.
I even called them a whlle ago and asked why he was benched. "Di nag praktis. At walang mangyayari pag andun eh. Kwentuhan kita after our meeting..." I'm still waiting for his call.
Post by: puffalan84 on Sep 01, 2014 at 12:34 PM
Bossing, I know the coaching staff of UE. They have the same observation. Sumang is suspect for throwing games.
I even called them a whlle ago and asked why he was benched. "Di nag praktis. At walang mangyayari pag andun eh. Kwentuhan kita after our meeting..." I'm still waiting for his call.
wow.. I thought those ala westbrook plays ni sumang were not intentional.. well mahirap ma-prove yun but beating a very good team without him is something..
masisipag talaga yung mga players ng UE (and some are good ball handlers too), so kung wala man sya mas maganda siguro ikot ng bola.. sayang if totoo..
Post by: mattia on Sep 01, 2014 at 02:22 PM
wow.. I thought those ala westbrook plays ni sumang were not intentional.. well mahirap ma-prove yun but beating a very good team without him is something..
masisipag talaga yung mga players ng UE (and some are good ball handlers too), so kung wala man sya mas maganda siguro ikot ng bola.. sayang if totoo..
Very hard to prove indeed. Game fixing has never been proven naman in the past. But it's there alright.
More inside info --
Apparently Sumang has a handler who is someone "high up there". Ang suspetsa ng UE pinag absent talaga sa practice nung handler para ma disciplinary action nga and miss an all important game vs NU. Unfortunately, it backfired coz the team responded better without Sumang and won the game. Sabi daw nung ilang players, mas OK pa na wala si Sumang kasi mas maganda ang ikot ng bola.
Then one La Sallite called up and told my source, "tama yan wag nyo na palaruin. Sa game na lang vs La Salle tsaka nyo palaruin." Haha.
I asked if Sumang will suit up vs FEU. Still to be decided by management. Abangan natin!
Post by: krets pulpol on Sep 01, 2014 at 07:50 PM
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/09/01/14/la-salle-legend-kurt-bachmann-dies-78
Rafa was the one who got involved in a team brawl somewhere in an Asian tourney, was he?
Post by: mattia on Sep 03, 2014 at 05:33 PM
Prior to that, Ravena could've won the game but also missed 2 FTs.
It was really a painful loss for UP as a couple of players were seen crying.
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 03, 2014 at 05:40 PM
Post by: mattia on Sep 03, 2014 at 05:46 PM
Grabe Ateneo, playing with fire. Sana magising sila.
Funny but when I opened my TV, score says 80 ADMU, 79 UP.. Akala ko kalaban ng UP e Adamson. Sabi ko match talaga UP and Adamson. Then I saw Ravena and Newsome. Sabi ko, ha?? Ateneo pala... hahaha.
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 03, 2014 at 10:52 PM
"UP played a strange style of basketball. It was the most uncomfortable game I had to coach," he added.
-- Coach Bo Perasol doing his best impression of Julio Lamas, Argentina basketball coach.
Post by: mattia on Sep 04, 2014 at 11:19 AM
"UP played a strange style of basketball. It was the most uncomfortable game I had to coach," he added.
-- Coach Bo Perasol doing his best impression of Julio Lamas, Argentina basketball coach.
Haha. State University same fate with Gilas. Almost but not quite.
Some players of UP were seen crying on camera. Masakit talaga.
Post by: SiCkBoY on Sep 04, 2014 at 05:43 PM
What a sorry loss by UP to Ateneo. Had Reyes made both FTs, UP could've won the game. With 0.8 sec to go, Reyes was fouled with the score 80-79 Ateneo. First shot was missed. Then the UP Coach complained about the time. He asked for a reset from 0.2 to 0.8 which was granted naman. Problema yun time between the first shot and the second shot took so long that must've put more pressure on Reyes. He missed the second shot.Haha! He iced his own player.
Prior to that, Ravena could've won the game but also missed 2 FTs.
It was really a painful loss for UP as a couple of players were seen crying.
Post by: retro12195 on Sep 04, 2014 at 11:10 PM
Post by: mattia on Sep 07, 2014 at 08:21 AM
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 07, 2014 at 06:26 PM
DLSU vs UE this coming Wed Sept 10 will be exciting.
Post by: mattia on Sep 07, 2014 at 06:31 PM
Yes, UE vs DLSU will be exciting indeed.
Post by: mattia on Sep 07, 2014 at 06:36 PM
With UE winning over FEU, it now puts a lot of pressure on NU to win all its remaining games or hope UE loses its game against DLSU.
DLSU vs UE this coming Wed Sept 10 will be exciting.
NU UST match on Sept 10 as well will be exciting. UST may play the spoiler's role.
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 07, 2014 at 07:11 PM
NU UST match on Sept 10 as well will be exciting. UST may play the spoiler's role.
But w/o Kevin Ferrer, dehado talaga UST.
No doubt UE will be more exciting to watch in the final 4 but sad to say their fate lies not only in their hands but also that of NU.
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 08, 2014 at 09:38 AM
Next weekend will be very interesting, but the games this coming Wednesday will be just as important.
Exciting finish for the elimination round!
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 10, 2014 at 09:25 AM
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 10, 2014 at 04:01 PM
...now 4Q UE 51 - DLSU 58
O_O
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Sep 10, 2014 at 04:15 PM
Wow, nung halftime UE 36 - DLSU 22...
...now 4Q UE 51 - DLSU 58
O_O
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 10, 2014 at 04:19 PM
UE 67 - DLSU 66
0:01 remaining
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Sep 10, 2014 at 04:24 PM
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 10, 2014 at 04:26 PM
Wow.
Updated standings:
ADMU 10-3
FEU 10-3
DLSU 9-4
NU 8-4
UE 8-5
Next game: NU vs UST!
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 10, 2014 at 04:29 PM
edit: ahh, mukhang:
criteria #1 is quotient
criteria #2 is head-to-head
criteria #3 is determined by computing the total points scored during eliminations divided by total points allowed in the eliminations
Post by: mattia on Sep 10, 2014 at 04:29 PM
oh wow UE coming form behind!
UE 67 - DLSU 66
0:01 remaining
UE falling behind and coming from behind. Wow what a game!!
Bong Gallanza is main difference for UE now.
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 10, 2014 at 04:39 PM
DLSU 60 - UE 58
NU 57 - UE 55
2nd round:
UE 64 - NU 55
UE 68 - DLSU 66
So if UE ends up tied with a team after the eliminations, mas gugustuhin nilang ma-tie with NU since they have the edge there.
Post by: krets pulpol on Sep 10, 2014 at 04:40 PM
Scenarios 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8 for now.
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 10, 2014 at 04:54 PM
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 10, 2014 at 04:59 PM
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 10, 2014 at 05:11 PM
http://www.spin.ph/basketball/news/uaap-season-77-final-four-scenarios-feu-ateneo-dlsu-nu-ueParang kulang yung scenarios nila.
Scenarios 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8 for now.
Wala for example yung "NU loses to UST, wins over DLSU"
Post by: Wiggum on Sep 10, 2014 at 05:26 PM
1. If NU wins today, they end up tied with DLSU at 9-4. UE 8-5.
(a) If UE beats UST next Tuesday, loser of NU-DLSU on Sat ties UE for 4th with 9-5. Playoff between UE and the NU-DLSU loser to determine 4th place.
(b) If UE loses to UST next Tuesday, loser of NU-DLSU on Sat is automatically 4th. UE will be out of the F4.
(c) Either case, winner of NU-DLSU on Sat goes up to 10-4 and plays virtual best-of-3 against loser of ADMU-FEU in the semis.
2. If NU loses today, NU ties UE at 8-5. DLSU 9-4.
(a) If NU beats DLSU on Sat and UE beats UST next Tuesday, NU, DLSU & UE will end up tied at 9-5. Quotient to determine 3rd, then playoff for 4th place between the remaining two teams?
(b) If NU beats DLSU on Sat and UE loses to UST next Tuesday, NU & DLSU will end up tied at 9-5. Quotient to determine 3rd/4th. UE falls to 8-6 and is out of the F4.
(c) If DLSU beats NU on Sat and UE beats UST next Tuesday, DLSU goes up to 10-4 and plays virtual best-of-3 against loser of ADMU-FEU in the semis. UE gets 4th, NU falls to 8-6 and is out of the F4.
(d) If DLSU beats NU on Sat and UE loses to UST next Tuesday, same as (c) for DLSU, but NU & UE will end up tied at 8-6, will have a playoff for 4th place.
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 10, 2014 at 05:34 PM
Post by: Wiggum on Sep 10, 2014 at 05:35 PM
Post by: krets pulpol on Sep 10, 2014 at 05:52 PM
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 10, 2014 at 05:56 PM
After this NU-UST game, the only games that will determine the rankings are:
DLSU vs NU
FEU vs Ateneo
UE vs UST
That makes for 8 scenarios.
If we include this ongoing game, that's 16 scenarios.
Fun fact though: Kahit anong mangyari, hindi magtatapos ang elimination round this weekend :P Magkakaron at magkakaron ng playoff games. Hehe.
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 10, 2014 at 06:21 PM
7:19 left in 4Q
Intense :)
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 10, 2014 at 06:42 PM
42 seconds left.
Mukhang NU na to :) At dahil mukhang NU na to... ganito na ang itsura ng standings natin...
ADMU 10-3
FEU 10-3
DLSU 9-4
NU 9-4
UE 8-5
At eto naman ang summary ng kung ano ang pwedeng mangyari given the remaining games to be played:
a) Whoever wins between ADMU v FEU will be undisputed #1
b) Whoever loses between ADMU v FEU will have to go against the winner of DLSU v NU in a playoff for #2
c) Whoever loses between DLSU v NU will be #4 if UE loses to UST
d) Whoever loses between DLSU v NU will have to play UE for #4 if UE wins against UST
Ayoko na mag-scenario. Mas madaling ganyan nalang :P
Post by: mattia on Sep 10, 2014 at 06:58 PM
NU 74 - UST 64.
42 seconds left.
Mukhang NU na to :) At dahil mukhang NU na to... ganito na ang itsura ng standings natin...
ADMU 10-3
FEU 10-3
DLSU 9-4
NU 9-4
UE 8-5
At eto naman ang summary ng kung ano ang pwedeng mangyari given the remaining games to be played:
a) Whoever wins between ADMU v FEU will be undisputed #1
b) Whoever loses between ADMU v FEU will have to go against the winner of DLSU v NU in a playoff for #2
c) Whoever loses between DLSU v NU will be #4 if UE loses to UST
d) Whoever loses between DLSU v NU will have to play UE for #4 if UE wins against UST
Ayoko na mag-scenario. Mas madaling ganyan nalang :P
Klaro!! Thanks!! Very nice games to close out the elims.
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Sep 10, 2014 at 08:41 PM
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c) Whoever loses between DLSU v NU will be #4 if UE loses to UST
d) Whoever loses between DLSU v NU will have to play UE for #4 if UE wins against UST
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 11, 2014 at 11:56 AM
Tama ba?
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 11, 2014 at 11:59 AM
Best outcome for stadium owners is that FEU wins over ADMU and DLSU wins over NU. Alam na kung bakit :D Hahahaha.
Post by: puffalan84 on Sep 11, 2014 at 12:38 PM
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 11, 2014 at 06:10 PM
^ Yup! Ganyan nga ang mangyayari.
Best outcome for stadium owners is that FEU wins over ADMU and DLSU wins over NU. Alam na kung bakit :D Hahahaha.
Mas ok if Ateneo a wins over FEU and DLSU over NU.
That way there's a better chance for them to meet in the finals.
Otherwise they will just meet in a virtua best 3 for one finals slot.
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 11, 2014 at 06:15 PM
Post by: brainwashed on Sep 12, 2014 at 03:58 AM
^ Ang nakakatakot lang diyan, kakalabanin ng Ateneo ang kaisa-isang team na nakatalo sa kanila twice during eliminations :D
di ba DLSU also lost twice to FEU?
Post by: mattia on Sep 12, 2014 at 07:49 AM
EXCITING!!
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 12, 2014 at 09:28 AM
Post by: puffalan84 on Sep 12, 2014 at 09:53 AM
^ Ang nakakatakot lang diyan, kakalabanin ng Ateneo ang kaisa-isang team na nakatalo sa kanila twice during eliminations :D
Parang mas nakakatakot ang UE pag nakapasok, because of their winning streak..
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 12, 2014 at 12:13 PM
Parang mas nakakatakot ang UE pag nakapasok, because of their winning streak..
yes and UE's intensity is 2nd to none.
Post by: raider125jeigh on Sep 12, 2014 at 12:15 PM
Post by: puffalan84 on Sep 12, 2014 at 12:37 PM
GO UE... super sumang ....
Ung Galanza ang malupet bro.. Si sumang ok din, pero minsan may alanganin na tira..
Post by: Waxx on Sep 12, 2014 at 01:17 PM
Post by: raider125jeigh on Sep 12, 2014 at 03:38 PM
Ung Galanza ang malupet bro.. Si sumang ok din, pero minsan may alanganin na tira..gusto ko kasi ung galawan ni sumang..konting bball IQ pa and drive and dish...kaya lang this year olats mga last secs drive and decision tsk tsk tsk... hindi ako taga ue ...trip ko lang ung moves nya
Post by: puffalan84 on Sep 12, 2014 at 03:54 PM
gusto ko kasi ung galawan ni sumang..konting bball IQ pa and drive and dish...kaya lang this year olats mga last secs drive and decision tsk tsk tsk... hindi ako taga ue ...trip ko lang ung moves nya
Ok naman talaga si Sumang, walang takot.. Ok din ung Varilla and Palma (yata yun), kaya lang parang mga bata pa.. I'm not from UE rin, kaya lang ok panuorin puro masisipag mga players..
Btw, grabe improvement nung Belo ng FEU..
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 13, 2014 at 02:39 PM
Post by: mattia on Sep 13, 2014 at 03:57 PM
Post by: Wiggum on Sep 13, 2014 at 04:11 PM
Post by: vinci on Sep 13, 2014 at 04:21 PM
FEU 55 Ateneo 38 with only 5 minutes to go in the game. I think FEU will take this game.
akala ko rin pro lagi may habol admu. tolomia choked
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Sep 13, 2014 at 04:26 PM
FEU 55 Ateneo 38 with only 5 minutes to go in the game. I think FEU will take this game.
OT!!! OT!! OT!! haha! scoring in bunches!
Post by: vinci on Sep 13, 2014 at 04:42 PM
Post by: Wiggum on Sep 13, 2014 at 04:44 PM
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Sep 13, 2014 at 04:44 PM
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 13, 2014 at 04:45 PM
FEU 55 Ateneo 38 with only 5 minutes to go in the game. I think FEU will take this game.
Bilog ang bola. :P
Ateneo finishes the season at no.1 after not making the final 4 last season.
Post by: elim on Sep 13, 2014 at 04:46 PM
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 13, 2014 at 04:50 PM
Confession: Tanggap ko na na talo with 5 mins left :P Pinatay ko na TV, tapos sabi ng misis ko 2 pts nalang lamang ng FEU with 27 secs left :D
Post by: vinci on Sep 13, 2014 at 04:58 PM
Good game by admu but feu lost the game with their free yhorws in the 4th. 2/14 ata.
0/2 ni tolomia sa last 2 seconds pinamasakit.
Post by: mattia on Sep 13, 2014 at 06:03 PM
Wow Ateneo ever the Hail Mary team!
Confession: Tanggap ko na na talo with 5 mins left :P Pinatay ko na TV, tapos sabi ng misis ko 2 pts nalang lamang ng FEU with 27 secs left :D
Bilog ang bola. :P
Ateneo finishes the season at no.1 after not making the final 4 last season.
Yep. My bad. I was texting my friend already about the NU DLSU score when he said wala pa coz Ateneo won!! I said what the %$^^?
Never over till its over indeed. Ateneo deserves No.1. And FEU deserves to go through "purgatory" matches first.
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 13, 2014 at 07:53 PM
All Ateneo has to do is to beat UE/NU once in the semis and for DLSU, they beat up FEU again twice in the semis just like last season.
Post by: Superman on Sep 13, 2014 at 08:09 PM
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Sep 13, 2014 at 09:21 PM
At eto naman ang summary ng kung ano ang pwedeng mangyari given the remaining games to be played:
a) Whoever wins between ADMU v FEU will be undisputed #1
b) Whoever loses between ADMU v FEU will have to go against the winner of DLSU v NU in a playoff for #2
c) Whoever loses between DLSU v NU will be #4 if UE loses to UST
d) Whoever loses between DLSU v NU will have to play UE for #4 if UE wins against UST
Post by: raider125jeigh on Sep 13, 2014 at 10:32 PM
Poor ft's by the feu players during crucial moments...
Post by: sardaukar on Sep 13, 2014 at 10:55 PM
Who will be on the final 4 after the games today?
DLSU and FEU tied for 2nd and will play virtual best of 3.
ADMU will play NU or UE. UE only if it beats UST on Tuesday then beats NU in a playoff for the last final 4 slot.
Post by: krets pulpol on Sep 15, 2014 at 05:40 PM
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/09/15/14/feu-places-loss-ateneo-under-protest
What's questionable about the game?
Post by: vinci on Sep 15, 2014 at 05:43 PM
FEU places loss to Ateneo under protest
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/09/15/14/feu-places-loss-ateneo-under-protest
What's questionable about the game?
wala man lang dun sa article. di kaya yung 1 point na dinagdag sa ateneo on a supposed to be 3 pointer ni pessumal na tinawagan ng 2 pointer lang then tinama?
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 15, 2014 at 05:48 PM
pero oo baka nga yung 2pts ni Pessumal na naging 3pts.
kahit ako nagulat dun eh. I didn't know you could issue a challenge like that.
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Sep 15, 2014 at 05:50 PM
anong klaseng reporting yan wala man lang details...
pero oo baka nga yung 2pts ni Pessumal na naging 3pts.
kahit ako nagulat dun eh. I didn't know you could issue a challenge like that.
you can issue a challenge in the last two minutes of the game. This has been done in the past by DLSU to gain time when there is no time out left for the team. Challenging 3 point shots even if it was clearly a 3 pt. shot.
Post by: vinci on Sep 15, 2014 at 05:51 PM
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 15, 2014 at 05:55 PM
you can issue a challenge in the last two minutes of the game. This has been done in the past by DLSU to gain time when there is no time out left for the team. Challenging 3 point shots even if it was clearly a 3 pt. shot.I checked twitter for details.
According to FEU's letter, UAAP rules state that "Determining whether a shot is 2 or 3 points will be allowed by reviewing the tapes at the FIRST DEAD BALL OPPORTUNITY, timeout and before the end of the period concerned, as the case may be."
However, the review of Pessumal's shot was done with 27 seconds left even though the shot was taken several minutes prior. FEU then lists down four (4) prior dead ball opportunities before that happened.
So ang protest nila basically is that the Pessumal shot should have been reviewed on the first dead ball opportunity after the shot, and not with 27 seconds left in the game.
I don't know how Andy Jao will rule, but if everything in the FEU letter is true, then this protest seems legit.
Post by: sardaukar on Sep 15, 2014 at 06:02 PM
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Sep 15, 2014 at 06:27 PM
I checked twitter for details.
According to FEU's letter, UAAP rules state that "Determining whether a shot is 2 or 3 points will be allowed by reviewing the tapes at the FIRST DEAD BALL OPPORTUNITY, timeout and before the end of the period concerned, as the case may be."
However, the review of Pessumal's shot was done with 27 seconds left even though the shot was taken several minutes prior. FEU then lists down four (4) prior dead ball opportunities before that happened.
So ang protest nila basically is that the Pessumal shot should have been reviewed on the first dead ball opportunity after the shot, and not with 27 seconds left in the game.
I don't know how Andy Jao will rule, but if everything in the FEU letter is true, then this protest seems legit.
With the wording stated you can actually contest a call before the period ends. it's either of the 3 instances.
Anyway, got the story that there was no mistake in Von's 3 point shot. Ref's called it a 3pt. shot, scorers just recorded it as a 2 point shot. Ateneo noticed the mistake and asked the score to reflect it.
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 15, 2014 at 07:34 PM
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 16, 2014 at 09:22 AM
With the wording stated you can actually contest a call before the period ends. it's either of the 3 instances.It's either the first:
- dead ball situation
- timeout
- or end of the period
So as I understand it, whichever of those comes first, dun ka lang pwede mag-issue ng challenge on the shot.
Anyway, got the story that there was no mistake in Von's 3 point shot. Ref's called it a 3pt. shot, scorers just recorded it as a 2 point shot. Ateneo noticed the mistake and asked the score to reflect it.Where did you get this story?
Because as per the announcement in the arena, the shot was called as 2 points, was challenged with 27 seconds left, and then was ruled a 3-ptr.
In any case, I would like to hear Andy Jao's ruling on this as soon as possible. Hopefully before the UE-UST game today.
Post by: the_w0rks on Sep 16, 2014 at 09:25 AM
It's either the first:
- dead ball situation
- timeout
- or end of the period
So as I understand it, whichever of those comes first, dun ka lang pwede mag-issue ng challenge on the shot.
Where did you get this story?
Because as per the announcement in the arena, the shot was called as 2 points, was challenged with 27 seconds left, and then was ruled a 3-ptr.
In any case, I would like to hear Andy Jao's ruling on this as soon as possible. Hopefully before the UE-UST game today.
facebook, most likely. there is a photo circulating with the referee signaling a 3-point shot on that release.
Post by: Wiggum on Sep 16, 2014 at 12:03 PM
It's either the first:
- dead ball situation
- timeout
- or end of the period
So as I understand it, whichever of those comes first, dun ka lang pwede mag-issue ng challenge on the shot.
Where did you get this story?
Because as per the announcement in the arena, the shot was called as 2 points, was challenged with 27 seconds left, and then was ruled a 3-ptr.
In any case, I would like to hear Andy Jao's ruling on this as soon as possible. Hopefully before the UE-UST game today.
Medyo malabo nga yung rule - prone to different interpretations. I think the phrase "before the end of the period concerned" applies only to contested buzzer-beaters or shots taken near/at the end of a period? But if the ref did call it a triple and it was the scorer who made the mistake in counting it only as two points, then end of story dapat. Naka-schedule na tentatively on Sunday yung playoff between FEU and DLSU. :)
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 16, 2014 at 12:10 PM
But if the ref did call it a triple and it was the scorer who made the mistake in counting it only as two points, then end of story dapat.
Yup I agree :)
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Sep 16, 2014 at 12:29 PM
It's either the first:
- dead ball situation
- timeout
- or end of the period
So as I understand it, whichever of those comes first, dun ka lang pwede mag-issue ng challenge on the shot.
Where did you get this story?
Because as per the announcement in the arena, the shot was called as 2 points, was challenged with 27 seconds left, and then was ruled a 3-ptr.
In any case, I would like to hear Andy Jao's ruling on this as soon as possible. Hopefully before the UE-UST game today.
the way the sentence was constructed. It's either the first deadball situation, timeout, AND before the end of the period concerned. any lawyer or who took up basic oblicon can say that you can raise it at the end of the period.
In any case,
checking the video at the 2:08 mark as Von takes the shot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kiuq0w6gtXA
you can see that the ref #13 raises his hand to signify that a 3 point shot was being taken. His motion to fully signify the completion of the 3 by raising both hands is interrupted when Von bumps into him hard from behind while running back for defense. However, the ref had already signified the 3 pointer initially with his first motion so that should prove that it was the table officials who neglected to notice the 3-call due to the ref getting bumped.
Also, if you were at araneta "the review" lasted less than a minute. it wasn't really a video review rather it would prove that the scorer's table was mistaken in crediting it only a 2pt. shot instead of a 3pt. shot.
In any case, FEU BULOK! (sorry, had to let that out. this does not extend to the student and alumnus of the school. just with Montinola, et al. )
Coach Nash, after the loss: "We shot ourselves in the foot. We missed 19FTs buong game, we missed 11 in the 4th qtr so we can't really complain."
Post by: puffalan84 on Sep 16, 2014 at 12:48 PM
Parang they stopped feeding him the ball nung 4th quarter, kayang-kaya nya ung newsome..
Post by: raider125jeigh on Sep 16, 2014 at 01:52 PM
11Free throws missed... chokes them in the 4th Q.
ang dapat nilang gawin magprepare sa DLSU and move on with the loss..
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Sep 16, 2014 at 02:26 PM
aba nagcomplain pala ung FEU...
11Free throws missed... chokes them in the 4th Q.
ang dapat nilang gawin magprepare sa DLSU and move on with the loss..
Could be a tactic so that DLSU doesn't know who to prepare for. all the while they are preparing for the final four against DLSU. haha!
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 16, 2014 at 02:41 PM
End of 1Q
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 16, 2014 at 03:07 PM
Halftime.
Post by: mattia on Sep 16, 2014 at 04:20 PM
Knockout match vs NU
;D ;D ;D
UE on a hot winning streak.
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 16, 2014 at 04:42 PM
UE vs NU - winner takes #4
DLSU vs FEU - winner takes #2, loser gets #3
:D
Sa sabado na ba to?
Post by: mattia on Sep 16, 2014 at 04:47 PM
olrayt,
UE vs NU - winner takes #4
DLSU vs FEU - winner takes #2, loser gets #3
:D
Sa sabado na ba to?
Saturday yes
2PM DLSU FEU
4PM UE NU
Post by: Wiggum on Sep 16, 2014 at 04:59 PM
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 16, 2014 at 05:02 PM
which will be given at halftime of the UP-Adamson game.
LOL I almost forgot may UP-ADU pa nga pala!
Halftime? Ia-announce sa coliseum yung decision??
Post by: mattia on Sep 16, 2014 at 05:04 PM
^ According to tweets, the UE-NU knockout game will be played on Saturday (Araneta), while the DLSU-FEU playoff game will be played on Sunday (MOA), both at 4PM. This assumes that the FEU protest is going to be denied. Still awaiting Andy Jao's decision, which will be given at halftime of the UP-Adamson game.
Oh OK. Thank you for correcting.
So now I will be forced to watch the UP Adamson game hahaha... suspense!!
Post by: Wiggum on Sep 16, 2014 at 05:06 PM
Puro speculation pa lang na denied yung protest because of the schedule announced for the playoff games this weekend. Pero pwede pala mag rematch ang ADMU and FEU on Thursday or Friday, IF the protest is granted. >:D May appeal process pa yata 'to sa UAAP Board.
Post by: mattia on Sep 16, 2014 at 05:12 PM
^^ Di naman :) TJ Manotoc daw will interview the Commish at halftime. Para may manood pa ng game kahit kalahati he he.. UP Fight!
Puro speculation pa lang na denied yung protest because of the schedule announced for the playoff games this weekend. Pero pwede pala mag rematch ang ADMU and FEU on Thursday or Friday, IF the protest is granted. >:D May appeal process pa yata 'to sa UAAP Board.
Oh well, UP gunning for a historical 2nd win in a long time is always exciting to watch anyway.
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 16, 2014 at 05:33 PM
Ouch.
Post by: Wiggum on Sep 16, 2014 at 05:53 PM
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 16, 2014 at 06:02 PM
Protest denied.Nice.
Anong reason binigay ni Andy Jao?
Post by: brainwashed on Sep 16, 2014 at 06:13 PM
Nice.
Anong reason binigay ni Andy Jao?
Referee signaled three points, scorer only tallied two.
http://fullcourtfresh.com/2014/09/uaap-season-77-commissioner-jao-affirms-pessumals-three-pointer-in-ateneo-feu-game/ (http://fullcourtfresh.com/2014/09/uaap-season-77-commissioner-jao-affirms-pessumals-three-pointer-in-ateneo-feu-game/)
Post by: krets pulpol on Sep 16, 2014 at 06:25 PM
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/video/sports/09/16/14/watch-uaap-upholds-ateneos-win-over-feu
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Sep 16, 2014 at 06:34 PM
Racela had also questioned the timing of the correction, citing a rule that states that determining whether a shot is a two or three will be allowed by reviewing tapes "at the first dead ball opportunity, time out, and before the end of the period concerned, as the case may be."
In his reply, Jao said: "This rule shows that any correctible error can be corrected at these three periods of time where the opportunity may arise. It includes 'before the end of the period,' which is what happened in the game."
Jao disagreed with Racela's premise that the error should have been corrected in the first dead ball opportunity.
"By the rules, the other two instances are during a timeout and before the end of the game. That is what happened in the game," said the commissioner.
UNQUOTE
DLSU has used this rule to question Ravena's three 3pt. shots two years ago. there is precedence also. I don't know what the FEU team management have been smoking.
Also, as stated in the reply by the technical committee, it was the error of the scorer's table and not a "change" in call from 2 points to 3pts. it was clear that it was a 3pt. shot and two ref's called it a three. only the scorers table made the mistake.
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 16, 2014 at 06:53 PM
UP 63 - ADU 65
0:57 left in the game
!!!
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 16, 2014 at 06:54 PM
:o
intense!
Post by: Wiggum on Sep 16, 2014 at 07:00 PM
Post by: mattia on Sep 16, 2014 at 07:12 PM
Anyway, it was an exciting game to end the eliminations. ;D
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 16, 2014 at 08:41 PM
Maiiyak si Duremdez after the final buzzer.
Post by: bartender on Sep 16, 2014 at 09:54 PM
DLSU has used this rule to question Ravena's three 3pt. shots two years ago. there is precedence also. I don't know what the FEU team management have been smoking.
Don't think they need to smoke anything. Sore losers will always be such.
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 17, 2014 at 03:08 PM
;D ;D ;D
Pero wala na bang ibang mas deserving kay Arvin Tolentino? He was excellent in the 1st round, but was nowhere to be found in the 2nd round. Apparently, his 1st round play was enough to bag the ROY award.
NOTE: Kiefer's 77.64 SP is the highest in the league since James Yap won the award in 2003.
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Sep 17, 2014 at 03:32 PM
Ravena bags UAAP MVP award; Tolentino to be named ROY (http://www.rappler.com/sports/university/uaap/69368-ravena-uaap-mvp-tolentino-roy)
;D ;D ;D
Pero wala na bang ibang mas deserving kay Arvin Tolentino? He was excellent in the 1st round, but was nowhere to be found in the 2nd round. Apparently, his 1st round play was enough to bag the ROY award.
NOTE: Kiefer's 77.64 SP is the highest in the league since James Yap won the award in 2003.
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Sep 17, 2014 at 05:05 PM
Ravena bags UAAP MVP award; Tolentino to be named ROY (http://www.rappler.com/sports/university/uaap/69368-ravena-uaap-mvp-tolentino-roy)
;D ;D ;D
Pero wala na bang ibang mas deserving kay Arvin Tolentino? He was excellent in the 1st round, but was nowhere to be found in the 2nd round. Apparently, his 1st round play was enough to bag the ROY award.
NOTE: Kiefer's 77.64 SP is the highest in the league since James Yap won the award in 2003.
Coming in second is prince rivero but the difference in points is too great.
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Blue Eagles big man Arvin Tolentino will be crowned the men's basketball tournament Rookie of the Year after finishing with the highest statistical points (40.21) among freshmen.
Tolentino's college career got off to a resounding start as he compiled high-scoring performances in his first few games. Despite seeing his production lessen in the tournament's second round, the former San Beda Red Cub built enough of a threshold to win the ROY plum.
Tolentino finished the elimination round with averages of 8.0 PPG and 5.6 RPG.
Coming in second in the ROY race is La Salle's Prince Rivero, who finished with 28.5 SPs after averaging 4.6 PPG and 4.2 RPG.
The awards are expected to be handed out to the winners prior to game two of this season's finals. -
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 17, 2014 at 05:47 PM
Prince Rivero - ROY of the 2nd Round
It will be interesting to see how these two develop in several years. Baka King Eagle na sila ang King Archer respectively when they're both seniors.
Post by: krets pulpol on Sep 18, 2014 at 11:53 AM
Mark Molina used to coach Ateneo team late 90s?
Post by: mattia on Sep 18, 2014 at 11:59 AM
Arvin Tolentino - ROY of the 1st Round
Prince Rivero - ROY of the 2nd Round
It will be interesting to see how these two develop in several years. Baka King Eagle na sila ang King Archer respectively when they're both seniors.
Arvin Tolentino reportedly has some attitude problems. Kaya if you noticed, there were instances sinisigawan ni Kiefer si Arvin.
Post by: DVD_Freak on Sep 18, 2014 at 12:00 PM
Post by: onedown on Sep 18, 2014 at 02:03 PM
Post by: bartender on Sep 18, 2014 at 02:12 PM
Post by: onedown on Sep 18, 2014 at 03:11 PM
add montinola to the list.
Post by: brainwashed on Sep 18, 2014 at 05:47 PM
Arvin Tolentino reportedly has some attitude problems. Kaya if you noticed, there were instances sinisigawan ni Kiefer si Arvin.
Nasanay siguro na siya ang bida. Yan na rin siguro ang dahilan kung bakit malamya ang laro niya nitong second round. Hindi sanay na role player, gusto bida. The earlier he gets over the disappointment of having to play second fiddle (to Ravena), third (to Newsome), or even fourth (to Elorde), the better it is for his game and for Ateneo.
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 18, 2014 at 11:02 PM
Arvin Tolentino reportedly has some attitude problems. Kaya if you noticed, there were instances sinisigawan ni Kiefer si Arvin.
These "attitude problems" are not confirmed, mere speculation from people who are not even part of the staff or management of the Blue Eagles.
Mark Molina and Nash Racela are both from Ateneo. Talk is that Mark is considered an ingrate and his batchmates and even his very own high school classmates disown him.
That's unlikely. If that were the case, Ritchie Ticzon would be "considered an ingrate" too, as they were classmates in HS I believe (4D '88 yata).
Post by: puffalan84 on Sep 19, 2014 at 03:57 AM
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 19, 2014 at 08:06 AM
Post by: bartender on Sep 19, 2014 at 08:27 AM
These "attitude problems" are not confirmed, mere speculation from people who are not even part of the staff or management of the Blue Eagles.
That's unlikely. If that were the case, Ritchie Ticzon would be "considered an ingrate" too, as they were classmates in HS I believe (4D '88 yata).
Sorry to disappoint but the unlikely is reality. Mark Molina is not the same batch as Richie Ticzon. Mark is 4B '90 if I recall right, while Richie was 4C '89. Mark is considered not an ingrate because he crossed fences but of the attitude. From what I heard, not many people talk to Mark in batch gatherings, if he is invited at all. Ticzon, inside and out is a very good person and I think the same can't be said of Mark Molina.
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 19, 2014 at 08:35 AM
Anyone could see in the video that (1) the referee was in front of the Ateneo bench when Pessumal made the shot; and (2) that he wasn't able to put up two hands after the shot was made because Pessumal inadvertently bumped him running back on defense.
Post by: vinci on Sep 20, 2014 at 08:47 AM
Post by: mattia on Sep 20, 2014 at 09:14 AM
tuloy ba games mamaya?
Yes 4PM. Tuloy sya.
Post by: vinci on Sep 20, 2014 at 09:45 AM
Post by: vinci on Sep 20, 2014 at 06:19 PM
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 20, 2014 at 06:34 PM
3rd straight final 4 appearance by the Bulldogs.
Post by: mattia on Sep 20, 2014 at 06:35 PM
Congrats to NU!!
Post by: mattia on Sep 20, 2014 at 06:48 PM
So talagang FTs nagkatalo. Mammie missed 2 important FTs. Aroga made both. ;D
Next up, DLSU vs FEU ;D
Post by: Wiggum on Sep 21, 2014 at 06:54 AM
FINAL 4
September 24, Wednesday
4PM ADMU v. NU
Araneta
September 27, Saturday
4PM FEU v. DLSU
MOA
October 1, Wednesday
Game 2 (if necessary)
2PM ADMU v. NU
4PM FEU v. DLSU
Araneta
FINALS
October 4, Saturday
4PM Game 1
MOA
October 8, Wednesday
4PM Game 2
Araneta
October 11, Saturday
4PM Game 3
TBA
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 21, 2014 at 07:28 AM
There were also some bad calls by the refs but again, ON BOTH SIDES.
So talagang FTs nagkatalo. Mammie missed 2 important FTs. Aroga made both. ;D
Next up, DLSU vs FEU ;D
Gallanza had a chance to become the hero for UE but he missed an open trey that would have gotten UE into the Final 4.
Post by: raider125jeigh on Sep 21, 2014 at 07:33 AM
Post by: mattia on Sep 21, 2014 at 05:40 PM
58-56 FEU with 4 mins to go
Post by: mattia on Sep 21, 2014 at 05:56 PM
Post by: mattia on Sep 21, 2014 at 05:59 PM
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 21, 2014 at 06:04 PM
Post by: krets pulpol on Sep 21, 2014 at 06:11 PM
Post by: mattia on Sep 21, 2014 at 06:19 PM
Parang may something na nangyari dun nung nagkakamayan after the game ah. Hehe. O gumagawa lang ako ng issue? :P
I also noticed Coach Nash being pacified after a handshake with whom???
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 21, 2014 at 06:32 PM
Issue. Hehehe.
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 21, 2014 at 06:39 PM
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 21, 2014 at 07:04 PM
It will be a big disappointment should DLSU not win the title this season despite an overwhelming line up but blame it on the injuries suffered by their key players thru out the season.
The initial posts on this thread and other message boards showed just how much was expected from the archers. Anything less than first is already a disappointment.
Even with the injuries, DLSU still has a very deep lineup but seem to lack energy at times. It does seem they were run ragged during the preseason, which could also explain some of the injuries.
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 21, 2014 at 07:28 PM
It will be a big disappointment should DLSU not win the title this season despite an overwhelming line up but blame it on the injuries suffered by their key players thru out the season.Aside from this loss to FEU, which you could blame a bit on Jeron Teng coming back from battling a mild case of dengue 3 days prior, what other DLSU losses could you really attribute to injuries though?
If DLSU doesn't win the title - or make the finals even - I think the injures are far down the list of reasons why they didn't live up to expectations this season.
Post by: Superman on Sep 21, 2014 at 07:58 PM
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 21, 2014 at 08:07 PM
FEU was the better team in the clutch today. The 3rd quarter run took a lot from the Archers especially to Jeron who just came out of the hospital. Medyo manipis din ang rotation. First time bangko si Prince. Sargent had a so-so game. It will be an interesting Game 2 and 3. ANIMO!
Game 3 if DLSU can win Game 2 otherwise their season is over for them if they lose Game 2.
Both Ateneo and FEU only need to win once in the Final 4.
Post by: mattia on Sep 21, 2014 at 08:14 PM
^ haha yeah, yan sakto yung tinutukoy ko :) The camera cut to Coach Nash being locked in a handshake with someone in green, tapos medyo masama yung tingin niya, then one of his assistant coaches immediately pushed him away towards his players.
Issue. Hehehe.
Eto na!! Hehe--
http://www.spin.ph/basketball/uaap/news/feu-coach-nash-racela-confrontation-with-la-salle-manager
La Salle team manager Teddy Capistrano apparently got irked and got mad at Racela. Napikon in short.
Reminiscent of that hit to the head of Arwind Santos by another DLSU team official back in the day when FEU also beat La Salle. I remember watching that live and seeing that happen in front of me.
Post by: Superman on Sep 21, 2014 at 08:28 PM
Game 3 if DLSU can win Game 2 otherwise their season is over for them if they lose Game 2.
Both Ateneo and FEU only need to win once in the Final 4.
They will win Game 2...
Post by: anya618 on Sep 21, 2014 at 09:58 PM
Post by: krets pulpol on Sep 22, 2014 at 01:39 AM
tsk tsk tsk
bye bye finals
Post by: mattia on Sep 22, 2014 at 06:38 AM
https://ph.sports.yahoo.com/news/a-day-after-walking-the-runway--teng-and-van-opstal-fall-flat-against-feu-121842242.html
tsk tsk tsk
bye bye finals
http://www.spin.ph/basketball/uaap/news/jeron-teng-the-naked-stats
Yup, that's the sad thing about losing. You get criticised a lot. Well, DLSU Coach Soler had already said it wasn't an issue for him so who are we to make it one? Coach na yun eh.
Teng and AVO just need to put up a better performance and win Game 2. That's it. Or else, they just have to live with criticisms that they lacked the focus in Game 1. Great athletes don't party the night before an important game. That's the Naked Truth.
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 22, 2014 at 07:32 AM
http://www.spin.ph/basketball/uaap/news/jeron-teng-the-naked-stats
Yup, that's the sad thing about losing. You get criticised a lot. Well, DLSU Coach Soler had already said it wasn't an issue for him so who are we to make it one? Coach na yun eh.
Teng and AVO just need to put up a better performance and win Game 2. That's it. Or else, they just have to live with criticisms that they lacked the focus in Game 1. Great athletes don't party the night before an important game. That's the Naked Truth.
Actually too many misses from short range by the BIGS of DLSU down the strech and obviously FEU got the breaks of the game from the turn overs after those missed shots.
Post by: Wiggum on Sep 22, 2014 at 06:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoLYt8xa4Tg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoLYt8xa4Tg)
Post by: mattia on Sep 22, 2014 at 08:23 PM
NCAA Action today: Bench-clearing brawl between Mapua and EAC players
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoLYt8xa4Tg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoLYt8xa4Tg)
Wow, brutal. Punches where thrown. Severe sanctions will clearly be meted out.
Post by: leomarley on Sep 22, 2014 at 10:21 PM
Post by: mattia on Sep 23, 2014 at 12:03 AM
haymaker connects! LOL plakda!
The instigator was #7 of Mapua who charged and hit the EAC guard Tayongtong ( after he put a shoulder on his defender ). Funny but the same #7 ran like a little boy as EAC players were chasing him. Ang layo ng inabot ng takbo.
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 23, 2014 at 12:43 AM
Post by: sientobente on Sep 23, 2014 at 12:58 AM
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 23, 2014 at 06:10 AM
Hit-Run-Do -- a common martial art found on basketball courts, football fields, and other sporting venues all over the world; the practitioner will need to have good timing to achieve the 1) initial hit (either a punch or kick or shove) and good speed to do 2) run like the wind
Exactly like this ......... from the face of the PBA no less. ;D
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MXYCJimjGkA
Guys like Onchie Dela Cruz, Bigboy Reynoso, Rudy Dustrito, etc would not be proud.
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 23, 2014 at 07:28 AM
Exactly like this ......... from the face of the PBA no less. ;D
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MXYCJimjGkA
Guys like Onchie Dela Cruz, Bigboy Reynoso, Rudy Dustrito, etc would not be proud.
Don't forget Ricky Relosa hehe.
Cool video! :)
Post by: mattia on Sep 23, 2014 at 10:18 AM
Don't forget Ricky Relosa hehe.
Cool video! :)
Yup. Ricky Relosa, one of the so called Bruise Brothers, ran as fast as he could from an import named Thomkins.
Here's another video, named as one of the worst in the PBA. You could see here that guys like Philip Cesar, Sonny Cabatu never blinked nor ran from a fight. Sya pa nga yun humabol sa import! Interestingly, Jaworski was the pacifier in this fight ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj43mSpkcgI
Post by: mattia on Sep 23, 2014 at 10:31 AM
It's been a long time since you saw a good fight from a basketball game. There were even discussions on another forum I am in that the NCAA is more physical than the UAAP which was why Ateneo and DLSU bolted to the latter.
In a way, it is! The games in the 70s between San Beda & Letran were bloody which involved fans. May isang game Ateneo San Beda was held closed door dahil nga nagkakasakitan pati fans. The rivalry then was De La Salle and, again, Letran. Here's a nice read on why DLSU left NCAA--
LA SALLE - LETRAN
In the 1970s, La Salle started its own rivalry against Letran. The rivalry came into a climax on a August 16, 1980 La Salle-Letran game. The Letran bleachers were totally unoccupied minutes before the scheduled 3 o’clock start. Letran school authorities would not let their students in unless De La Salle's team manager's "guests" leave the south end bleachers that are part of the Letran stands.
The group moved over to the north end (La Salle side) after talks between Ambassador Eduardo Cojuangco then Ferdinand Marcos-appointed project-director for basketball and De La Salle Team manager and Letran Rector Fr. Regino Cortes. Only then did the Letran bleachers fill up.
Letran toting a 22-18 lead called a time-out halfway through the first half.
The south end reserve section (Letran side) erupted with at least five burly men (part of the guests of La Salle's team manager) ganging up on a hapless Letran high school sophomore student for a full minute before police could intervene. But for the mauled student, none was picked up. Almost simultaneously, the La Salle bench suddenly stood up, the players hunched and protecting their heads with towels and jackets against various missiles pelted on them.
Yesterday’s incidents climaxed those in August 6 when La Salle defeated Letran 124-111. It must be noted that the "guests" of De La Salle's team manager were also present during that time.
Also involved in the play-offs is San Beda which lost to Letran earlier. A victory by Letran over La Salle gives it the first round flag. Should La Salle win, it still has to face San Beda and win to clinch the round championship.
Cojuangco never explained why his "guests" just happened to be positioned in the Letran side of the Coliseum.
La Salle for its part, said that it was La Salle students who beat up the Letran student, and both teams went immediately to their respective dugouts. A large number of spectators were hurt, and a great portion of the coliseum was damaged. The game was called off by the NCAA and ordered a replay behind closed doors, but the then-FIBA basketball federation, the Basketball Association of the Philippines ordered the remainder of the season to be canceled. La Salle then announced on a press conference on September 1980 that they will withdraw from the NCAA effective at the end of the 1980-81 season.
Post by: puffalan84 on Sep 23, 2014 at 10:32 AM
Don't forget Ricky Relosa hehe.
Cool video! :)
san kaya makikita yung kay ricky relosa, iirc un ung Shell vs. Thompkins.. :)
Post by: mattia on Sep 23, 2014 at 10:41 AM
san kaya makikita yung kay ricky relosa, iirc un ung Shell vs. Thompkins.. :)
Walang video. But as I was browsing, I learned that Thomkins has long passed away, 2003 pa. Oh well.
http://www.philstar.com/sports/223112/ex-import-found-dead
Post by: mattia on Sep 23, 2014 at 11:03 AM
Buti pa sa UAAP wala masyado gulo ;D All's well that ends well with Racela and Capistrano after that "commotion" during the post game handshake.
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 23, 2014 at 11:11 AM
Post by: mattia on Sep 23, 2014 at 11:34 AM
Great win by Perpetual over the Red Lions, 76-75 on the heroics of Harold Arboleda :D
A non bearing game for San Beda but an all important one for the Altas as they hang on for contention in the Final Four.
Kudos to Coach Aric del Rosario, one of the best college coaches IMO.
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 23, 2014 at 05:47 PM
Don't forget Ricky Relosa hehe.
Cool video! :)
Classic na yang ginawa ni Ricky Relosa ....... his fist was cocked, ready to punch Thompkins - yet his entire body was running in the opposite direction. ;D
Like I said, kung sina Onchie Dela Cruz, Bigboy Reynoso, Rudy Distrito, etc ang nagsimula nang away, hindi hihinto ang mga yan hanggat makakita nang dugo.
Post by: leomarley on Sep 23, 2014 at 05:58 PM
http://www.spin.ph/basketball/uaap/news/terry-capistrano-andy-jao-breask-silence-dlsu
Buti pa sa UAAP wala masyado gulo ;D All's well that ends well with Racela and Capistrano after that "commotion" during the post game handshake.
sa players wala. mga nag-aaway yung mga studyante.
Post by: mattia on Sep 23, 2014 at 06:30 PM
http://www.spin.ph/basketball/ncaa/news/mapua-coach-atoy-co-to-take-legal-action-against-eac-point-guard-john-tayongtong
Post by: leomarley on Sep 23, 2014 at 06:46 PM
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 23, 2014 at 07:23 PM
Post by: leomarley on Sep 23, 2014 at 07:53 PM
Kahit ano pa sabihin natin, Tayongtong punched the guy. The punch landed flush on Isit's face and knocked him down. This is not something you regularly see in basketball (unlike hard shoves and shouting matches when tempers flare up). Now Isit needs to see a specialist to assess if he has a fracture in the eye area. Assault yun. Ang naalala ko dito yung parang sinuntok ni Kermit Washington si Rudy T.
that's not assault. Tayongtong was on the defensive.
Post by: bartender on Sep 23, 2014 at 07:54 PM
http://www.spin.ph/basketball/uaap/news/terry-capistrano-andy-jao-breask-silence-dlsu
Buti pa sa UAAP wala masyado gulo ;D All's well that ends well with Racela and Capistrano after that "commotion" during the post game handshake.
I think this is not the first time this Terry Capistrano figure was involved in a similar situation. Such displaced school spirit if that's the case.
Post by: mattia on Sep 23, 2014 at 08:32 PM
Total of 17 players suspended from both sides. All refs were also suspended and fined. EAC's Tayongtong got the heftiest with 5 game suspension. Mapua's Gabo #7 who instigated everything ( and then ran as fast as he could ) got a 4 game suspension.
Post by: mattia on Sep 23, 2014 at 08:48 PM
Kahit ano pa sabihin natin, Tayongtong punched the guy. The punch landed flush on Isit's face and knocked him down. This is not something you regularly see in basketball (unlike hard shoves and shouting matches when tempers flare up). Now Isit needs to see a specialist to assess if he has a fracture in the eye area. Assault yun. Ang naalala ko dito yung parang sinuntok ni Kermit Washington si Rudy T.
While it is true that Mapua's Gabo started the brawl with a hard push on Tayongtong's throat, I would have to agree with you on this. Yes, that punch in the face was too much indeed.
Post by: leomarley on Sep 23, 2014 at 09:30 PM
http://www.spin.ph/basketball/ncaa/news/eac-mit-suspensions-basketball-brawl-fight-ncaa-season-90-17-players
Total of 17 players suspended from both sides. All refs were also suspended and fined. EAC's Tayongtong got the heftiest with 5 game suspension. Mapua's Gabo #7 who instigated everything ( and then ran as fast as he could ) got a 4 game suspension.
tayongtong's lucky that he only got a 5 game suspension. some are even expecting him to be banned in the NCAA.
Post by: mattia on Sep 23, 2014 at 10:23 PM
tayongtong's lucky that he only got a 5 game suspension. some are even expecting him to be banned in the NCAA.
Well, as you said, he was just trying to protect himself. So naintindihan naman ng NCAA committee yun. Actually, their initial reaction was Gabo should have the heftiest because he started it all. However, yun kay Gabo naman hindi closed fist and it was merely a shove - a strong shove that is. Yun kay Tayongtong, closed fist to the face.
Post by: frequenzy on Sep 23, 2014 at 10:36 PM
Naku, di pa tapos pala. The Fortune Cookie ( Coach Atoy Co ) plans to file a case against EAC guard.papansin naman tong si atoy co, kung itutuloy niya to then eac should also charge assault on gabo since he was the one who connected first. isit came towards tayongtong, anu ba balak niya? nagkataon lang na naunahaan siya ng suntok.
http://www.spin.ph/basketball/ncaa/news/mapua-coach-atoy-co-to-take-legal-action-against-eac-point-guard-john-tayongtong
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 24, 2014 at 04:38 PM
Post by: krets pulpol on Sep 24, 2014 at 04:40 PM
tulad sa sinabi nito
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/blogs/opinions/09/22/14/uaap-ready-nu-feu-finals
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 24, 2014 at 04:43 PM
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Sep 24, 2014 at 04:48 PM
Grabe kontrapelo talaga Ateneo sa NU.
Post by: krets pulpol on Sep 24, 2014 at 04:50 PM
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 24, 2014 at 04:55 PM
Too close at this stage... specially taking into account Ateneo always finds a way to win.I don't know. It feels a lot like their last meeting.
But okay, Ateneo ain't the hail mary team for nothing :P
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Sep 24, 2014 at 05:03 PM
Therein lies the rub.
With NU's strength of half-court defense double teaming kiefer and guarding the passing lanes well will negate Ateneo's ability to score. If ateneo plays to NU's tempo which is slowing the game down to half court sets then they'll be doomed to follow their 4 losses in this past 2 seasons.
Ateneo's offense lies in the running and open court set. They're a quick team, with kiefer being a mismatch when defenses are not set. With Chris Newsome as well. They create opportunities in the defensive lapses during transistions.
Unless Coach Bo creates more plays for the big men and for Von pessumal, then it will be a uphill struggle for the Blue and White.
in any case OBF! win or lose!
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 24, 2014 at 05:58 PM
Post by: vinci on Sep 24, 2014 at 06:04 PM
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 24, 2014 at 06:06 PM
1:32 left
holy crap.
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 24, 2014 at 06:07 PM
1:14 left
hjagdshgsadhgsaodjfgapsfd!@#@!$!@$! :O
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 24, 2014 at 06:08 PM
Post by: Wiggum on Sep 24, 2014 at 06:08 PM
Post by: vinci on Sep 24, 2014 at 06:11 PM
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 24, 2014 at 06:13 PM
Post by: hls on Sep 24, 2014 at 06:14 PM
Post by: vinci on Sep 24, 2014 at 06:17 PM
Story of the game: FREETHROWS.
sino nanalo sir??
Post by: hls on Sep 24, 2014 at 06:20 PM
sino nanalo sir??NU
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 24, 2014 at 06:21 PM
:(
Post by: Wiggum on Sep 24, 2014 at 06:27 PM
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Sep 24, 2014 at 06:37 PM
NU wins, 78-74. Knock-out game next Wednesday. Odds are against NU: the 4th seed has beaten the 1st seed in the history of the UAAP Final Four only once out of 18 times (sabi ng Wikipedia :)). But as the TV panel said, this is not a typical 1st seed-4th seed match-up because ADMU has not yet beaten NU this season.
We haven't beaten NU since last season. 5 straight wins by NU since last season. :(
Post by: mattia on Sep 24, 2014 at 06:50 PM
Now it's down to a winner take all. Although Ateneo hasn't beaten NU since last season, I'll put my money on ADMU. My reason? Law of averages. Another reason? I'd say Kiefer will have a big game come Wednesday. ;D
Congrats NU!!
Post by: 2fast2furious on Sep 24, 2014 at 07:05 PM
Post by: mattia on Sep 24, 2014 at 07:16 PM
Baka FEU vs NU pa ito pag nagkataon.
I'd say DLSU will take Game 2 then 50/50 sa Game 3. Di papatalo basta si Boss Danding!!
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 24, 2014 at 10:32 PM
Ateneo showed again that they can rally from big deficits. The key, however, is to have a more urgent start, take it strong to the basket, and not settle for fadeaways and pull-up jumpers. Getting more boards (NU had 48, Ateneo 33) will also help.
Post by: raider125jeigh on Sep 24, 2014 at 10:36 PM
Post by: mattia on Sep 24, 2014 at 10:44 PM
Kiefer was 9/35 (26%) FG and 4/9 from the free throw line. He needs to be more efficient next week.
Ateneo showed again that they can rally from big deficits. The key, however, is to have a more urgent start, take it strong to the basket, and not settle for fadeaways and pull-up jumpers. Getting more boards (NU had 48, Ateneo 33) will also help.
Friend of mine who watched live said Ravena was like a Lebron James. Seeing the stats, he's more like a Kobe to me ;D
Post by: bejiboys on Sep 25, 2014 at 12:16 AM
Baka FEU vs NU pa ito pag nagkataon.
Ayus! Me like this!
Post by: elim on Sep 25, 2014 at 12:56 AM
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 25, 2014 at 07:18 AM
Watching the reply now. Seems that the ravena got frustrated with the NU defence. Meron pang cheap shot.
Javelona played very good defense on Ravena in all their match ups this season so I wont be surprised if NU sweeps Ateneo and barged eventually into the Finals.
Post by: wengkapre on Sep 25, 2014 at 08:07 AM
Post by: raider125jeigh on Sep 25, 2014 at 08:35 AM
Watching the reply now. Seems that the ravena got frustrated with the NU defence. Meron pang cheap shot.hehe oo binigyan ng isa ni ravena si javelona hehe..pinakita sa review hehe
Watch the replay 11.30 na natapos sa balls..,
Daming sablay ni ravena sa 4th q...anak ng..one man offense...
Sa dami ng tira ilan lang nashoot.,im not rootin for NU nor a hater of admu,,i just cant believe ravena ravena having that kind or percentages every game i see him play...talo pa ung kabayo na may tapahoho...
Si thirdie limited time pero ayos ung pinakita..sana magstep up ung iba pa nilanh players pra ung offense e di lang kay ravena..want to ser admu without ravena in 1 game
Post by: the_w0rks on Sep 25, 2014 at 08:39 AM
Tapos pansin ko sa Ateneo, pag napasa na kay Newsome or Ravena yung bola, the offense stops. haha
Post by: puffalan84 on Sep 25, 2014 at 08:56 AM
Post by: mattia on Sep 25, 2014 at 11:23 AM
Kudos to Coach E ;D
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 25, 2014 at 10:19 PM
^^ I think Eric Altamirano is really just a good coach. He is getting his boys to execute the things he wants to be done.
Tapos pansin ko sa Ateneo, pag napasa na kay Newsome or Ravena yung bola, the offense stops. haha
Ateneo need the outside sniping of Tolentino but bcoz of his oor defense against opposing team's big men, his playing time is limited as Coach Bo has no choice but to play Gotladera for defense and rebounding.
Post by: krets pulpol on Sep 26, 2014 at 12:16 PM
Post by: heisenbergman on Sep 26, 2014 at 01:27 PM
The two schools involved in the brawl will have to forfeit their games due to lack of 5 players when they meet separate incoming games! Wow! hehe ubos sa dami ng mga na suspendWow seryoso ba to??
Post by: krets pulpol on Sep 26, 2014 at 02:22 PM
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/380886/sports/campussports/ncaa-eac-mapua-to-forfeit-games-due-to-banned-players-from-basketbrawl
http://www.philstar.com/sports/2014/09/26/1373432/player-suspensions-force-eac-forfeit-game-vs-perpetual
Post by: krets pulpol on Sep 27, 2014 at 06:18 PM
Anyare?
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Sep 27, 2014 at 06:20 PM
Post by: krets pulpol on Sep 27, 2014 at 06:30 PM
Post by: remixprod on Sep 27, 2014 at 07:06 PM
Post by: steelcrazy on Sep 27, 2014 at 07:57 PM
Now I'm sure many are praying for it to happen. Both schools should be cheering for each other come wednesday.
Ihanda na ang Philippine Arena should the Finals unfolds between DLSU and Ateneo para mas marami ang tao pwd manuod ng live.
Post by: 2fast2furious on Sep 29, 2014 at 09:34 AM
I'd say DLSU will take Game 2 then 50/50 sa Game 3. Di papatalo basta si Boss Danding!!galing!
Post by: mattia on Sep 29, 2014 at 09:51 AM
Not to be outdone, the NCAA Final Four race is turning out to be an exciting one. This could turn out to one of the tightest race since 2008. And San Beda who has always come out on top for the longest time may still find themselves in 2nd place.
Post by: Bunsoy on Sep 29, 2014 at 12:00 PM
Post by: heisenbergman on Oct 01, 2014 at 01:10 PM
tama ba:
2PM - ADMU vs NU
4PM - DLSU vs FEU
Post by: paolorenzo on Oct 01, 2014 at 01:14 PM
sana mag champion ang NU para 50percent off sale sa lahat ng SM Malls
Traydor!
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 01, 2014 at 01:44 PM
do or die games today!
tama ba:
2PM - ADMU vs NU
4PM - DLSU vs FEU
6PM and DLSU vs FEU, separate tickets daw tsk tsk
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 01, 2014 at 01:48 PM
sana mag champion ang NU para 50percent off sale sa lahat ng SM Malls
sana ung supermarket ang mag sale.. :)
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 01, 2014 at 02:14 PM
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 01, 2014 at 02:27 PM
http://uaaplivestream.uaapsports.tv/
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 01, 2014 at 02:30 PM
Tried this before
http://uaaplivestream.uaapsports.tv/
Thanks...
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Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 01, 2014 at 02:35 PM
Post by: heisenbergman on Oct 01, 2014 at 02:45 PM
Post by: lithium_deuteride on Oct 01, 2014 at 02:56 PM
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 01, 2014 at 02:57 PM
Post by: heisenbergman on Oct 01, 2014 at 03:08 PM
NU 32 - ADMU 27
Halftime.
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Oct 01, 2014 at 03:27 PM
Once again too early to tell who will win this game... the steady methodical game of NU or the ability of Ateneo to find a way to win...
Newsome with 15 1st-half pts, keeping Ateneo within striking distance.
NU 32 - ADMU 27
Halftime.
Post by: lithium_deuteride on Oct 01, 2014 at 03:33 PM
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 01, 2014 at 03:35 PM
Cool, keep the updates coming :). The DLSU-FEU game comes next?
6PM sir later...
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Oct 01, 2014 at 03:43 PM
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 01, 2014 at 04:15 PM
Post by: vinci on Oct 01, 2014 at 04:23 PM
9secs remaining 65-63 NU
anu na po nangyari? :(
Post by: paolorenzo on Oct 01, 2014 at 04:23 PM
Post by: mattia on Oct 01, 2014 at 04:24 PM
Delikado pa NU dito. Sino ba mayari ng Meralco??
Post by: vinci on Oct 01, 2014 at 04:25 PM
Anyare? Parang yun brownout (aircon malfunction) sa San Antonio ito? ;D
Delikado pa NU dito. Sino ba mayari ng Meralco??
seriously??? may ganyan??
Post by: mattia on Oct 01, 2014 at 04:26 PM
seriously??? may ganyan??
Yes. Nawala ilaw sa Araneta w 9 secs to go and NU ahead by 2.
Post by: bartender on Oct 01, 2014 at 04:28 PM
Post by: vinci on Oct 01, 2014 at 04:29 PM
Yes. Nawala ilaw sa Araneta w 9 secs to go and NU ahead by 2.
wow.coincidence?pag nanalo admu malabong di mabahiran ng mga haka haka yan. :)
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 01, 2014 at 04:33 PM
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Oct 01, 2014 at 04:35 PM
Post by: comet on Oct 01, 2014 at 04:36 PM
Post by: vinci on Oct 01, 2014 at 04:36 PM
Tyak sisisihin ng losing team in incident ng pagkawala ng ilaw sa Big Dome.
di pa rin nag resume? masama ba panahon sa cubao area baka kaya naapektuhan power supply?
dito sa makati sobra dilim mukhang bubuhos ulan ng matindi.
Post by: elim on Oct 01, 2014 at 04:37 PM
Post by: Waxx on Oct 01, 2014 at 04:38 PM
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 01, 2014 at 04:38 PM
They sweeped Ateneo this season.
Sorry no more Ateneo vs DLSU finals for this season.
Post by: paolorenzo on Oct 01, 2014 at 04:38 PM
Post by: vinci on Oct 01, 2014 at 04:39 PM
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 01, 2014 at 04:41 PM
Post by: the_w0rks on Oct 01, 2014 at 04:42 PM
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Oct 01, 2014 at 04:46 PM
The lights went out in Araneta due to the strong rains. Baha na sa Qc (before ateneo lost). haha!
Post by: Wiggum on Oct 01, 2014 at 04:49 PM
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 01, 2014 at 04:53 PM
Post by: Waxx on Oct 01, 2014 at 04:56 PM
para
DLSU- ADMU parin sa 3rd.. tapos gagawin nilang best of 7 ang 3rd
ratings/sales parin!
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 01, 2014 at 05:00 PM
feu- NU nalang..
para
DLSU- ADMU parin sa 3rd.. tapos gagawin nilang best of 7 ang 3rd
ratings/sales parin!
Wala naman battle for 3rd ang UAAP.
Post by: elim on Oct 01, 2014 at 05:11 PM
Haaaay... as i earlier said. Live and die with Kiefer. That's our head coach's plan for the team. And that last play exemplified this. Kiefer drove into the lane for the game tying shot and got blocked by Aroga. Well, ateneo wouldn't have gotten this far without him also. C'est la vie.
The lights went out in Araneta due to the strong rains. Baha na sa Qc (before ateneo lost). haha!
+1 sana kay newsome na lang last shot.
Post by: 2fast2furious on Oct 01, 2014 at 05:14 PM
Wala naman battle for 3rd ang UAAP.;D
Post by: Waxx on Oct 01, 2014 at 05:21 PM
Wala naman battle for 3rd ang UAAP.
gawa sila.. sayang
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 01, 2014 at 05:21 PM
so who gets the 3rd? yung loser between FEU-DLSU automatic?
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 01, 2014 at 05:31 PM
Haaaay... as i earlier said. Live and die with Kiefer. That's our head coach's plan for the team. And that last play exemplified this. Kiefer drove into the lane for the game tying shot and got blocked by Aroga. Well, ateneo wouldn't have gotten this far without him also. C'est la vie.
The lights went out in Araneta due to the strong rains. Baha na sa Qc (before ateneo lost). haha!
Ganyan talaga eh. Ika nga ni Coach Ron Jacobs when he was with San Miguel, "We live and die by the Sword." refering to his main man Nelson Asaytono.
Ravena is the best player so for sure a coach will want the ball in the best player's hands in a crucial play but of course it's the decision of the best player to have the guts to take the last shot or pass it to an open teammate like what Air Jordan did when he passed to the waiting hands of Jim Paxon and Steve Kerr during their championship runs with the Bulls.
In that case, Ravena chose to drive and take the ball to the basket but his shot was swatted away by Aroga.
Wala pala
so who gets the 3rd? yung loser between FEU-DLSU automatic?
I think based on standings in the elimination, Ateneo should get 3rd place and the loser of the FEU vs DLSU is 4th placer.
Post by: mattia on Oct 01, 2014 at 05:37 PM
Post by: bartender on Oct 01, 2014 at 05:48 PM
Congrats NU! Nice D by Aroga ;D
Ibang klase mag aruga si Aroga.
Ibo-boycott daw ng mga Atenista lahat ng SM Malls.
Post by: mattia on Oct 01, 2014 at 05:57 PM
Post by: anya618 on Oct 01, 2014 at 06:04 PM
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 01, 2014 at 06:11 PM
I'm happy for NU. And they did it without Bobby Ray Parks ;D
That's something to be proud of, they did it w/o their best player the last two years.
Gelo Alonino was clearly the MVP of the game not only did he hit the trey that tied the game after coming off the bench, he also hit the winning free throws for NU.
I like the underdogs so I will cheer for NU and I will prefer them to play and beat the defending champion in DLSU rather than FEU.
Post by: mattia on Oct 01, 2014 at 06:24 PM
bakit parang di masyado puno?
Baha kasi sa Q.C. Now pa lang unti unti nakakapasok ang mga tao.
Post by: mattia on Oct 01, 2014 at 06:54 PM
Post by: frootloops on Oct 01, 2014 at 07:11 PM
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Oct 01, 2014 at 07:21 PM
FUE is looking good at this stage.
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Oct 01, 2014 at 07:40 PM
Post by: leomarley on Oct 01, 2014 at 07:43 PM
Post by: anya618 on Oct 01, 2014 at 07:47 PM
Post by: mattia on Oct 01, 2014 at 07:48 PM
As I said, this will be a dogfight.
Post by: anya618 on Oct 01, 2014 at 07:51 PM
Post by: anya618 on Oct 01, 2014 at 07:55 PM
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Oct 01, 2014 at 07:56 PM
Post by: 2fast2furious on Oct 01, 2014 at 07:57 PM
64-61 feuBelo for three!
Post by: the_w0rks on Oct 01, 2014 at 07:59 PM
Post by: anya618 on Oct 01, 2014 at 07:59 PM
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Oct 01, 2014 at 08:00 PM
Post by: 2fast2furious on Oct 01, 2014 at 08:01 PM
Post by: the_w0rks on Oct 01, 2014 at 08:02 PM
Post by: 2fast2furious on Oct 01, 2014 at 08:02 PM
Post by: 2fast2furious on Oct 01, 2014 at 08:03 PM
Post by: anya618 on Oct 01, 2014 at 08:03 PM
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Oct 01, 2014 at 08:03 PM
Post by: lithium_deuteride on Oct 01, 2014 at 08:03 PM
Post by: retro12195 on Oct 01, 2014 at 08:05 PM
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 01, 2014 at 08:05 PM
Post by: leomarley on Oct 01, 2014 at 08:06 PM
;D
Post by: mattia on Oct 01, 2014 at 08:06 PM
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 01, 2014 at 08:07 PM
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 01, 2014 at 08:07 PM
No ADMU, No La Salle
;D
Like I said I'll live with it, I would bat for NU.
Post by: 2fast2furious on Oct 01, 2014 at 08:08 PM
No ADMU, No La Salle>:D
;D
Post by: retro12195 on Oct 01, 2014 at 08:08 PM
No ADMU, No La Salleme laro pa ba sa 3rd place?
;D
Post by: Wiggum on Oct 01, 2014 at 08:09 PM
FEU swept NU during the eliminations. But too close to call going into the Finals.
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 01, 2014 at 08:11 PM
Congratz to NU and FEU and to Coach Altamirano and Coach Racela.
Same situation as the NU vs Ateneo game on difference was Tolomia elected to pass to his open teammate for a good open shot that won them the game while Ravena chose to take matters in his own hands and failed.
Mac Belo played like Ranidel de Ocampo.
Post by: mav14 on Oct 01, 2014 at 08:12 PM
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 01, 2014 at 08:12 PM
Great games, fans of the sport win everytime. FEU to go all the way.
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 01, 2014 at 08:21 PM
Crony-free Finals ........ Its been a loooooooong time since this happened.
And Henry Sy is not?
Post by: frequenzy on Oct 01, 2014 at 08:22 PM
Post by: the_w0rks on Oct 01, 2014 at 08:23 PM
This is a dream UAAP finals matchup...said no one ever! Haha
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 01, 2014 at 08:28 PM
And Henry Sy is not?
Sy isn't a known crony of any past or current official ........ though he "donates" to all sides and is dirty just the same.
Last year, NU was like deer caught in the headlights ...... good for them, using that defeat as a springboard to success.
Still I like FEU's chances against NU in these coming Finals.
Post by: leomarley on Oct 01, 2014 at 08:34 PM
Na-Ray Allen yung DLSU dre. Haha
This is a dream UAAP finals matchup...said no one ever! Haha
pano yung akin? i dreamed of a Finals matchup free from ADMU and/or DLSU ;D
Post by: Wiggum on Oct 01, 2014 at 08:43 PM
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 01, 2014 at 08:51 PM
Baka nga FEU-NU pa sa finals eh
tulad sa sinabi nito
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/blogs/opinions/09/22/14/uaap-ready-nu-feu-finals
Tama yung sumulat nito sa ABS-CBN
Post by: Verbl Kint on Oct 02, 2014 at 12:37 AM
Post by: mattia on Oct 02, 2014 at 01:07 AM
Someone joked that Finals tickets will now be Buy 1, Take 1 ;D
Post by: frootloops on Oct 02, 2014 at 01:27 AM
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 02, 2014 at 03:40 AM
How long did it take for NU to make it to the finals since the Sy family took over?
A little more than 5 years ...... somewhat similar to ADMU & SBC's rise to prominence when MVP started to pour in the funds - IMO their annual budget puts most PBA teams to shame.
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 02, 2014 at 07:51 AM
I hope they win it all over FEU.
The match ups will be good on both sides.
Post by: Bunsoy on Oct 02, 2014 at 08:47 AM
Mac Belo is becoming one heck of a player
kamag anak po ba niya si Doc Vicki? 8) ::)
Post by: the_w0rks on Oct 02, 2014 at 09:41 AM
pano yung akin? i dreamed of a Finals matchup free from ADMU and/or DLSU ;D
hehe free of ADMU or DLSU pero did you ever dream na FEU-NU?
Ako dream ko finals matchup is Adamson vs UP. hahaha
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 02, 2014 at 10:47 AM
Anyway, it will still be an exciting series when both squads meet this weekend because it's a different ball game. Just throw out the stats before the rounds because it wouldn't matter, it's composure and the team who blinks for a moment loses or cracks under pressure.
It was UST from 4th seed who booted out NU in first place then DLSU took out FEU in the middle last year. So it would be a cinderella story for NU if they get the crown this year, they nearly got eliminated from the final four but ended up in the finals this season.
Last season na pala nina Newsome, Elorde? Same with Norbert Torres pati main guys ng NU so it will be much difficult to get back-back championships.
Post by: Waxx on Oct 02, 2014 at 10:55 AM
exact sentiments from fans of both universities..and uaap.. ;D
Post by: leomarley on Oct 02, 2014 at 10:39 PM
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Post by: heisenbergman on Oct 03, 2014 at 09:10 AM
FEU loses Romeo
Both teams now in the finals :P
Post by: the_w0rks on Oct 03, 2014 at 09:11 AM
I'm rooting for FEU.. Belo was as humble as ever.. who needs romeo? :)Vice Ganda needs Romeo.hahaha
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 03, 2014 at 09:28 AM
Vice Ganda needs Romeo.hahaha
haha.. uy friends lang daw sila.. pansin ko sa feu nung time ni vice, mga players puro naka-braces, puro pa-pogi..
Post by: the_w0rks on Oct 03, 2014 at 09:37 AM
haha.. uy friends lang daw sila.. pansin ko sa feu nung time ni vice, mga players puro naka-braces, puro pa-pogi..sponsored siguro. haha!
pero on topic:
matindi tong si Belo. Di takot tumira ng mga clutch shots. Pansin ko sa last play talagang ready to receive eh.
Post by: leomarley on Oct 03, 2014 at 07:33 PM
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Post by: retro12195 on Oct 05, 2014 at 11:41 AM
http://www.philstar.com/sports/2014/10/03/1376080/what-happened-bo
Post by: bejiboys on Oct 05, 2014 at 02:10 PM
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 05, 2014 at 03:36 PM
sponsored siguro. haha!
pero on topic:
matindi tong si Belo. Di takot tumira ng mga clutch shots. Pansin ko sa last play talagang ready to receive eh.
ok din ung rosario ng NU, not flashy pero consistent with his jump shots.. ung ghobuntin di masyado nakaporma same built nya kasi ung mga players ng FEU, di nya mabully.. hehe
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 05, 2014 at 06:59 PM
yari ka BOO >:D
http://www.philstar.com/sports/2014/10/03/1376080/what-happened-bo
One thing I don't understand is while Perasol is the head coach and shouted instructions from the bench, it was always Ronnie Magsanoc giving instructions during a time out and Perasol never meddled even during crucial plays and just keep silent.
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 05, 2014 at 07:37 PM
One thing I don't understand is while Perasol is the head coach and shouted instructions from the bench, it was always Ronnie Magsanoc giving instructions during a time out and Perasol never meddled even during crucial plays and just keep silent.
Na-uso na din dito (mostly sa PBA) ang offensive/defensive coordinators assisting the head coach ....... I'm very sure that this arrangement was brought over by MVP from his PBA teams.
Post by: sovrain on Oct 05, 2014 at 07:39 PM
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 05, 2014 at 07:57 PM
Post by: Verbl Kint on Oct 05, 2014 at 08:56 PM
Bo Perasol already overachieved by leaps and bounds. At the start of the season, we were outsiders to the final four, and we ended up being number 1.
Post by: DVD_Freak on Oct 05, 2014 at 09:01 PM
In my opinion as an alumnus, i think there's been a lot of overreaction from the fans.
Bo Perasol already overachieved by leaps and bounds. At the start of the season, we were outsiders to the final four, and we ended up being number 1.
I actually have the same opinion. Pre-season rankings never placed Ateneo among the top 4 of all so called experts afaik. While common or majority heavily favored DLSU to be champs and would dominate the league.
Post by: DVD_Freak on Oct 05, 2014 at 09:03 PM
Na-uso na din dito (mostly sa PBA) ang offensive/defensive coordinators assisting the head coach ....... I'm very sure that this arrangement was brought over by MVP from his PBA teams.
Yup agree. Sa NBA style ni coach Pop yan. Minsan nga si Duncan or Ginobili ang naglealead ng discussion sa bench during timeouts. Then you can see Pop nandun sa background sa likod ng huddle nakikinig lang.
Post by: toys4geeks on Oct 05, 2014 at 09:29 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/1094738_10152770866402328_5657393000213633325_o.jpg)
exact sentiments from fans of both universities..and uaap.. ;D
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 06, 2014 at 12:21 AM
Next season Ateneo will have a better line up if the former FEU standout Pinggoy can already play.
Magaling daw na point guard yn and he will surely lessen the offensive load on Ravena.
Post by: brainwashed on Oct 06, 2014 at 10:33 AM
Coach Bo did well this season kaso kinapos lng tlga sa semis.
Next season Ateneo will have a better line up if the former FEU standout Pinggoy can already play.
Magaling daw na point guard yn and he will surely lessen the offensive load on Ravena.
What Ateneo needs is 1 or 2 big men who can out-muscle the imports and fil-foreigners of the other schools. Their current bigs do a good job but are being dominated by the big men of the other schools.
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 06, 2014 at 05:29 PM
What Ateneo needs is 1 or 2 big men who can out-muscle the imports and fil-foreigners of the other schools. Their current bigs do a good job but are being dominated by the big men of the other schools.
I agree. Ateneo's current BIG men are not as dominant as during the era of Coach Norman.
Hirap sila sa NU bcoz Aroga simply out muscled each and every defender thrown at him by Ateneo and also bcoz of that, Arvin Tolentino got limited minutes thus limiting Ateneo's offense to Ravena and Newsome.
Post by: Verbl Kint on Oct 08, 2014 at 05:21 PM
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Post by: Verbl Kint on Oct 08, 2014 at 06:06 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 09, 2014 at 01:21 AM
Coach Bo did well this season kaso kinapos lng tlga sa semis.
Next season Ateneo will have a better line up if the former FEU standout Pinggoy can already play.
Magaling daw na point guard yn and he will surely lessen the offensive load on Ravena.
pinggoy is tough but he is so much of a ballhog, i like his teammate better, yung shooter, forgot the name though
Post by: beknat on Oct 15, 2014 at 03:08 PM
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Post by: VenoM_Unleashed on Oct 15, 2014 at 04:27 PM
NU 8 - FEU 11
1st qrt 4:07 remaining
Post by: VenoM_Unleashed on Oct 15, 2014 at 04:37 PM
NU 20 - FEU 18
Post by: VenoM_Unleashed on Oct 15, 2014 at 05:01 PM
NU 30 - FEU 26
Post by: Waxx on Oct 15, 2014 at 05:11 PM
saw it!
Post by: coastal on Oct 15, 2014 at 05:21 PM
Post by: Superman on Oct 15, 2014 at 05:51 PM
Post by: VenoM_Unleashed on Oct 15, 2014 at 05:55 PM
Post by: VenoM_Unleashed on Oct 15, 2014 at 06:11 PM
NU 72 - FEU 57
Looks like NU will win this one
Post by: SiCkBoY on Oct 15, 2014 at 06:13 PM
Post by: Superman on Oct 15, 2014 at 06:17 PM
My dad was a King Bulldog in the 70s although their highest achievement was 4th Place during his stint...
Post by: Wiggum on Oct 15, 2014 at 06:18 PM
Post by: VenoM_Unleashed on Oct 15, 2014 at 06:23 PM
Congrats NU!
Post by: a2 on Oct 15, 2014 at 06:27 PM
Baka mag sale ang sm or libreng points sa advantage card!
Post by: coastal on Oct 15, 2014 at 06:29 PM
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Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 15, 2014 at 06:54 PM
Post by: sovrain on Oct 15, 2014 at 06:55 PM
Post by: anya618 on Oct 15, 2014 at 06:56 PM
Congrats NU!
Baka mag sale ang sm or libreng points sa advantage card!
50% off sa lahat ng SM? >:D
Post by: Waxx on Oct 15, 2014 at 06:57 PM
50% off sa lahat ng SM? >:D
asa pa.. baka nga tumaas pa presyo kasi justified na ang budget to defend the title next year
Post by: DVD_Freak on Oct 15, 2014 at 07:40 PM
Post by: mattia on Oct 15, 2014 at 07:57 PM
I'm happy for Eric Altamirano. Such a humble and simple guy.
Post by: Pandidoy on Oct 15, 2014 at 08:05 PM
Hindi na naman kakain si Vice Ganda >:D
Post by: retro12195 on Oct 15, 2014 at 08:28 PM
Congrats N.U. Ganda ng nilaro.ng HOTDOG? >:D >:D
Hindi na naman kakain si Vice Ganda >:D
Post by: leomarley on Oct 15, 2014 at 09:12 PM
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 15, 2014 at 10:15 PM
After 6 yrs of patience, they finally achieve their goal of being #1.
Post by: Verbl Kint on Oct 15, 2014 at 10:25 PM
He's technically listed as a freshman so he will be a force to reckon with for years to come. His newfound mental toughness from the Final Four to the finals will surely help this NU team in trying to stamp its class next year.
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 15, 2014 at 10:30 PM
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Post by: TOP 20 on Oct 16, 2014 at 12:17 AM
To my fellow tams, better luck next season.
Post by: tony on Oct 16, 2014 at 07:05 AM
Post by: mattia on Oct 16, 2014 at 07:13 AM
Congrats National UniverSYty. Haha.
Looking at the lineup of NU, they really did a good job recruiting from other NCAA and UAAP teams. Two of their players are former Red Cubs -- Diputado and one more. In NU's case, nag shopping ng players.
Post by: mattia on Oct 16, 2014 at 07:21 AM
Congrats NU! Iba ang sarap ng first title.
Actually, it's their 2nd. The first one was in 1954. 60 years in the making ang second.
Post by: mattia on Oct 16, 2014 at 07:25 AM
FEU has nothing to be ashamed of, they played their their best...
Definitely. Especially if you have 19 UAAP titles already, the most in the league.
Ateneo has 22 but 14 of them are with NCAA. 8 in UAAP.
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 16, 2014 at 07:35 AM
Speaking of "recruitment", here's a very truthful take from a PBA legend himself.
"Nothing beats having a padrino " - Atoy Co
http://www.spin.ph/basketball/news/nu-feu-uaap-season-77-finals-basketball-atoy-co-hans-sy-danny-ildefonso-support
The padrino teams have annual budgets which makes some PBA teams look like inter-baranggay clubs ...... everyone knows the deal and there's no investigative anything from the media or the authorities.
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 16, 2014 at 08:26 AM
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 16, 2014 at 10:56 AM
Post by: mattia on Oct 16, 2014 at 12:34 PM
Congrats to NU - they went against history ....... finally shedding that doormat label.
Speaking of "recruitment", here's a very truthful take from a PBA legend himself.
"Nothing beats having a padrino " - Atoy Co
http://www.spin.ph/basketball/news/nu-feu-uaap-season-77-finals-basketball-atoy-co-hans-sy-danny-ildefonso-support
The padrino teams have annual budgets which makes some PBA teams look like inter-baranggay clubs ...... everyone knows the deal and there's no investigative anything from the media or the authorities.
When NU gave an offer to Jeron Teng to play for them, dad Alvin sought the advise of my ex-PBA & UAAP coach friend ( kumpare nya kasi ). The offer of NU was this :
P5M signing bonus
1 SUV of choice
1 Condo
P60K a month for Alvin
P60K a month for Wife
1 Franchise of Save More
1 international and local family travel per year all expenses paid
Plus monthly and bonuses for a star player
The signing bonus was later upped to P10M.
DLSU, however, matched the offer. Plus complete liquidation of Alvin Teng's loans and payables. And Jeron has a sure place in any San Miguel owned PBA team. PLus of course the prestige of playing for DLSU compared to NU.
Whew. Kaya panay ang push ko sa anak ko na pagbutihin ang hilig nyang mag basketball. ( He's 5'8 at 13 and still growing )...
Post by: jonjon on Oct 16, 2014 at 12:39 PM
When NU gave an offer to Jeron Teng to play for them, dad Alvin sought the advise of my ex-PBA & UAAP coach friend ( kumpare nya kasi ). The offer of NU was this :
P5M signing bonus
1 SUV of choice
1 Condo
P60K a month for Alvin
P60K a month for Wife
1 Franchise of Save More
1 international and local family travel per year all expenses paid
Plus monthly and bonuses for a star player
The signing bonus was later upped to P10M.
DLSU, however, matched the offer. Plus complete liquidation of Alvin Teng's loans and payables. And Jeron has a sure place in any San Miguel owned PBA team. PLus of course the prestige of playing for DLSU compared to NU.
Whew. Kaya panay ang push ko sa anak ko na pagbutihin ang hilig nyang mag basketball. ( He's 5'8 at 13 and still growing )...
Lupet pala ng bayaran sa mga me padrinong team. College palang, tiba tiba na!!!
Post by: tony on Oct 16, 2014 at 12:41 PM
Post by: kingofpain on Oct 16, 2014 at 12:52 PM
When NU gave an offer to Jeron Teng to play for them, dad Alvin sought the advise of my ex-PBA & UAAP coach friend ( kumpare nya kasi ). The offer of NU was this :
P5M signing bonus
1 SUV of choice
1 Condo
P60K a month for Alvin
P60K a month for Wife
1 Franchise of Save More
1 international and local family travel per year all expenses paid
Plus monthly and bonuses for a star player
The signing bonus was later upped to P10M.
DLSU, however, matched the offer. Plus complete liquidation of Alvin Teng's loans and payables. And Jeron has a sure place in any San Miguel owned PBA team. PLus of course the prestige of playing for DLSU compared to NU.
Whew. Kaya panay ang push ko sa anak ko na pagbutihin ang hilig nyang mag basketball. ( He's 5'8 at 13 and still growing )...
wow! didnt realize its that lucrative already at that level! panalo info ni-share mo sir! ;)
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 16, 2014 at 01:05 PM
When NU gave an offer to Jeron Teng to play for them, dad Alvin sought the advise of my ex-PBA & UAAP coach friend ( kumpare nya kasi ). The offer of NU was this :
P5M signing bonus
1 SUV of choice
1 Condo
P60K a month for Alvin
P60K a month for Wife
1 Franchise of Save More
1 international and local family travel per year all expenses paid
Plus monthly and bonuses for a star player
The signing bonus was later upped to P10M.
DLSU, however, matched the offer. Plus complete liquidation of Alvin Teng's loans and payables. And Jeron has a sure place in any San Miguel owned PBA team. PLus of course the prestige of playing for DLSU compared to NU.
Whew. Kaya panay ang push ko sa anak ko na pagbutihin ang hilig nyang mag basketball. ( He's 5'8 at 13 and still growing )...
wow.. other schools can only offer minutes per game..
Post by: mattia on Oct 16, 2014 at 01:32 PM
wow.. other schools can only offer minutes per game..
Just imagine what Ateneo and La Salle would give a star player.
Post by: Waxx on Oct 16, 2014 at 01:33 PM
kaya nga kulelat ang UP.. walang ma offer kungdi prestige of education in the state university!
Post by: mattia on Oct 16, 2014 at 01:39 PM
di lang yan.. meron pa offers from alumnus!
kaya nga kulelat ang UP.. walang ma offer kungdi prestige of education in the state university!
And lesser funded teams face the risk of "bentahan", "hulog" - game fixing. Mas madaling biktima yung mga magagaling na players na konti ang allowance.
Post by: tony on Oct 16, 2014 at 01:41 PM
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 16, 2014 at 01:45 PM
Just imagine what Ateneo and La Salle would give a star player.
exactly grabe.. sedan and gasoline allowance is already a blessing to any player..
di lang yan.. meron pa offers from alumnus!
kaya nga kulelat ang UP.. walang ma offer kungdi prestige of education in the state university!
I thought MVP is supporting UP..
Post by: onedown on Oct 16, 2014 at 02:11 PM
from what i remember, there were reports that mvp was supposed to shift his support up after the ateneo graduation speech incident. but it was said that alumni wooed him back.
as for some schools who can offer much, i think all don't really offer much other than scholarship, and perhaps board and lodging. it's the alumni and other supporters who spend insane amounts of money.
Post by: mattia on Oct 16, 2014 at 02:24 PM
I thought MVP is supporting UP..
In a very limited way. Not as much as he supports Ateneo and San Beda. He donated a bus to the UP team. Dati raw kasi commute ang mga players going to the arena.
Post by: leomarley on Oct 16, 2014 at 04:18 PM
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Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 16, 2014 at 08:57 PM
i wonder if there is an offer like that to kobe paras?
Extremely doubtful ...... the US NCAA has very strict rules regarding recruitment. Magbigay lang nang libreng jacket ang ilang boosters, grounds na for investigation at pwede nang ma-suspindede ang university.
Samantalang dito sa Pinas, garapalan ang pagbigay nang kwarta sa recruit at sa kanyang mga kamag-anak ...... Pero bale wala lang. Kultura kasi nang lamangan.
@mattia ...... Bro, you forgot to include that daddy Alvin Teng was given a coaching slot in Danding's ABL team. Bawal at illegal ito sa ibang bansa ..... pero dito sa atin, illegal or unethical - ano daw yun? Hehe.
Post by: Verbl Kint on Oct 16, 2014 at 10:32 PM
When NU gave an offer to Jeron Teng to play for them, dad Alvin sought the advise of my ex-PBA & UAAP coach friend ( kumpare nya kasi ). The offer of NU was this :
P5M signing bonus
1 SUV of choice
1 Condo
P60K a month for Alvin
P60K a month for Wife
1 Franchise of Save More
1 international and local family travel per year all expenses paid
Plus monthly and bonuses for a star player
The signing bonus was later upped to P10M.
DLSU, however, matched the offer. Plus complete liquidation of Alvin Teng's loans and payables. And Jeron has a sure place in any San Miguel owned PBA team. PLus of course the prestige of playing for DLSU compared to NU.
Whew. Kaya panay ang push ko sa anak ko na pagbutihin ang hilig nyang mag basketball. ( He's 5'8 at 13 and still growing )...
To be honest, this is all hearsay and really sounds too good to be true for me. Also, when you say "the offer of NU" it makes it seem that the school itself is the one funding whatever this is, that this is drawn directly from the school's coffers.
Truth is, it is not. The same can be said of DLSU or whichever school.
Ang maniwala sa sabi-sabi...
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 16, 2014 at 11:10 PM
To be honest, this is all hearsay and really sounds too good to be true for me. Also, when you say "the offer of NU" it makes it seem that the school itself is the one funding whatever this is, that this is drawn directly from the school's coffers.
Truth is, it is not. The same can be said of DLSU or whichever school.
Ang maniwala sa sabi-sabi...
One doesnt even have to rely on hearsay ....... the mere fact that tycoons and businessmen and not the academe/school offcials, are doing the recruiting - it doesn't sound fishy or even slightly unethical to you?
Alvin Teng getting a job at an SMCorp ABL team right after Jeron gave his handshake to Danding, doesn't sound fishy to you ? ......... or the late great Bobby Parks Sr. being hired as NU athletic director at around the same time that Ray Parks was mulling his options.
How about Dindin Santiago and a few other UST belles, suddenly transferring to NU, even after coming off a championship season with UST.
If one doesn't know anything about Danding Cojuangco, other than him being a businessman, it would or should be unethical and illegal that he's doing the player recruiting, right? ...... but, history has taught us how Danding does business, right?
Millions of our farmer brothers and their dependents can answer this. ;)
Post by: Verbl Kint on Oct 16, 2014 at 11:21 PM
But that was not my point.
My point was that all that's enumerated below are hearsay.
The offer of NU was this :
P5M signing bonus
1 SUV of choice
1 Condo
P60K a month for Alvin
P60K a month for Wife
1 Franchise of Save More
1 international and local family travel per year all expenses paid
Plus monthly and bonuses for a star player
The signing bonus was later upped to P10M.
DLSU, however, matched the offer. Plus complete liquidation of Alvin Teng's loans and payables. And Jeron has a sure place in any San Miguel owned PBA team. PLus of course the prestige of playing for DLSU compared to NU.
Sounds really bogus, if you ask me.
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 16, 2014 at 11:34 PM
I have no doubt that old rich men are involved. And yes, I do think it is not ethical.
But that was not my point.
My point was that all that's enumerated below are hearsay.
Sounds really bogus, if you ask me.
You are correct, these numbers cannot be verified ...... though, IMO the specific numbers should't be important, since everyone knows that payoffs are happening.
Sen. Pia Cayetano's proposal for full disclosure of collegiate recruits benefits, allowances, etc is a small step in the right direction.
It's just unfortunate that the supposed bastions of truth and higher learning (some schools) choose to compete using unethical means by using patrons as their lead guys.
Post by: vinci on Oct 17, 2014 at 12:49 AM
re: kobe paras. di ko narinig yata kay benjie na scholarship ang pinagpasalamat nya. lagi opportunity to play sa nba agad or chance being drafted sa nba. tapos ang media naman pinakita agad sila kareem, reggie, klove at westbrook. e 2 yrs pa.yata maglaro hayskul bgo maglaro dun if ever commited sya.
Post by: mattia on Oct 17, 2014 at 07:06 AM
I have no doubt that old rich men are involved. And yes, I do think it is not ethical.
But that was not my point.
My point was that all that's enumerated below are hearsay.
Sounds really bogus, if you ask me.
Without seeing the actual offer sheet, yes it's hearsay technically. But as I've said my source was kumpare of Alvin Teng and ninong of Jeron Teng. He just shared to me what the Tengs told him when they asked for advice. As to the veracity of the numbers, I don't know. Either exaggerated si friend ko or si Papa Alvin. Or both.
Post by: mattia on Oct 17, 2014 at 07:12 AM
@mattia ...... Bro, you forgot to include that daddy Alvin Teng was given a coaching slot in Danding's ABL team. Bawal at illegal ito sa ibang bansa ..... pero dito sa atin, illegal or unethical - ano daw yun? Hehe.
Yes sir. Part of the DLSU package for Jeron. To match that P60K a month offered by NU. And a sure seat at any PBA team (SMB owned) when Teng graduates.
The idea is not only to compensate the star player but the family as well.
Post by: mattia on Oct 17, 2014 at 09:53 AM
San Beda vs Arellano Finals starting Monday at MOA.
As usual, San Beda is "llamado" but don't count out the Chiefs. This is a good team that can very well match up with the Lions ;D
Post by: Waxx on Oct 17, 2014 at 10:06 AM
And a sure seat at any PBA team (SMB owned) when Teng graduates.
but wont teng be in the draft pool? so technically, pwede rin sya mapunta sa non smb team..
Post by: mattia on Oct 17, 2014 at 10:14 AM
but wont teng be in the draft pool? so technically, pwede rin sya mapunta sa non smb team..
Yes, but that's SMB for you. Ilan ba teams nila sa PBA? 4? Internal arrangement na yan. Parang si Pacquiao. Nasa draft pero sa Kia pa rin ang bagsak. Although si Yeng Guaio muntik i draft (kuno) sa ROS. Hahaha.
Post by: DVD_Freak on Oct 17, 2014 at 10:21 AM
Yes, but that's SMB for you. Ilan ba teams nila sa PBA? 4? Internal arrangement na yan. Parang si Pacquiao. Nasa draft pero sa Kia pa rin ang bagsak. Although si Yeng Guaio muntik i draft (kuno) sa ROS. Hahaha.
Iba naman yun case ni Pacquiao. Would you really waste a draft pick on him? ;D
Post by: frontANDcenter on Oct 17, 2014 at 12:55 PM
Every player who either moved or stayed with UST are considered blessings. From K-Fer, Jervy (courtesy of Coach Acot) to Jeric (thanks to that Teng-Pumaren rift in RP Youth). Btw, Abdul wanted out before the season started because he realized he can get more money for his performance from other schools.
I really wanted to hate the idea of schools paying students and their families TOP MONEY just to land the talent (especially when you're comparing NCAA's regulations in the states) but when you start to assess the situation, given the risks involved in playing basketball, it's acceptable to know that the students are the ones who are truly benefiting from it. Of course, the boosters will find ways to get their money back but we keep forgetting that a huge fraction of these kids dedicated their lives to the game and a vast majority of them won't make it to the pros. It's nice to equip them with the money now and more importantly, the education to prepare them to whatever comes next.
It's just sad because I know we can come up with the budget that can compete with today's glamour schools, but I just don't see UST allowing it. It took NU 60 years to win another title and if our school would still refuse to bend to today's "semi-pro league" trend, I just hope they overhaul our basketball program (coaching staff), putting a higher premium in player development, teaching them how to REALLY play basketball.. (kami lang yata may players na habang tumatagal, humihina.. Even UST graduates in the pros can't play D because of poor basketball foundations). Build off of that along with UST's education, budget and rich basketball tradition to attract talent.
Post by: SiCkBoY on Oct 17, 2014 at 01:04 PM
Yes, but that's SMB for you. Ilan ba teams nila sa PBA? 4? Internal arrangement na yan. Parang si Pacquiao. Nasa draft pero sa Kia pa rin ang bagsak. Although si Yeng Guaio muntik i draft (kuno) sa ROS. Hahaha.
Do you really think the other teams would waste their first round draft pick on Pacquiao? No need for internal arrangement.
I'm sure kahit si Glenn Capacio nanghinayang.
Post by: mattia on Oct 17, 2014 at 04:09 PM
Iba naman yun case ni Pacquiao. Would you really waste a draft pick on him? ;D
Oo nga naman.
By the way, I think Pacman will land in Guinness soon. Professional Boxer, professional basketball player, professional coach and lawmaker. Beat that.
Post by: leomarley on Oct 17, 2014 at 04:59 PM
I'm from UST and unlike most schools, I understand we don't have the same kind of budget that can compete against the likes of NU, Ateneo, La Salle, even FEU and UE.. We can't guarantee a PBA draft for students, heck we're not even affiliated with any D-League team to keep the players together during the summer.
Every player who either moved or stayed with UST are considered blessings. From K-Fer, Jervy (courtesy of Coach Acot) to Jeric (thanks to that Teng-Pumaren rift in RP Youth). Btw, Abdul wanted out before the season started because he realized he can get more money for his performance from other schools.
I really wanted to hate the idea of schools paying students and their families TOP MONEY just to land the talent (especially when you're comparing NCAA's regulations in the states) but when you start to assess the situation, given the risks involved in playing basketball, it's acceptable to know that the students are the ones who are truly benefiting from it. Of course, the boosters will find ways to get their money back but we keep forgetting that a huge fraction of these kids dedicated their lives to the game and a vast majority of them won't make it to the pros. It's nice to equip them with the money now and more importantly, the education to prepare them to whatever comes next.
It's just sad because I know we can come up with the budget that can compete with today's glamour schools, but I just don't see UST allowing it. It took NU 60 years to win another title and if our school would still refuse to bend to today's "semi-pro league" trend, I just hope they overhaul our basketball program (coaching staff), putting a higher premium in player development, teaching them how to REALLY play basketball.. (kami lang yata may players na habang tumatagal, humihina.. Even UST graduates in the pros can't play D because of poor basketball foundations). Build off of that along with UST's education, budget and rich basketball tradition to attract talent.
i don't know about you but i'd rather UST stay that way than win championships because of money. if it's legal then it's ok but since it is not then it's better to have your integrity.
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 17, 2014 at 05:55 PM
Oo nga naman.
By the way, I think Pacman will land in Guinness soon. Professional Boxer, professional basketball player, professional coach and lawmaker. Beat that.
And maybe President in the future?
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 17, 2014 at 06:20 PM
i don't know about you but i'd rather UST stay that way than win championships because of money. if it's legal then it's ok but since it is not then it's better to have your integrity.
+ 1TB ...... it's a dying art, but much better to have your integrity than win by unethical means.
At one point, UST has won 14 straight overall UAAP championships, yet not much hoopla ...... no boosters and no patrons.
On a recent GATORADE shoot featuring past and current UAAP hoops stars, UST's Kevin Ferrer and past star Cyrus Baguio lamented on how things stayed the same way with the Tigers - players come from UST HS, tryouts, walk-ins and some provincial recruitment.
Ang malungkot dito, schools are supossed to be the vanguards of truth and equality - that's what we teach our students right ...... yet, some schools dont practice what they preach.
Post by: leomarley on Oct 17, 2014 at 08:37 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 17, 2014 at 09:30 PM
Extremely doubtful ...... the US NCAA has very strict rules regarding recruitment. Magbigay lang nang libreng jacket ang ilang boosters, grounds na for investigation at pwede nang ma-suspindede ang university.
Samantalang dito sa Pinas, garapalan ang pagbigay nang kwarta sa recruit at sa kanyang mga kamag-anak ...... Pero bale wala lang. Kultura kasi nang lamangan.
@mattia ...... Bro, you forgot to include that daddy Alvin Teng was given a coaching slot in Danding's ABL team. Bawal at illegal ito sa ibang bansa ..... pero dito sa atin, illegal or unethical - ano daw yun? Hehe.
i mean may nag offer kaya kay kobe paras ng lucrative offer dito sa pilipinas to play for their school?
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 17, 2014 at 09:45 PM
i don't know about you but i'd rather UST stay that way than win championships because of money. if it's legal then it's ok but since it is not then it's better to have your integrity.
even if its legal i wouldnt resort to this, its like corrupting the mind of the young, dumb as it may sound, I would alwasy want to inculcate to the mind of an athlete the value of hardwork, good education, resepct to others, being a star player is a mere bonus. off course we all want a greener pasture but let it happen after the athlete completes his college education, if he is really that good then he gets the chance for big bucks when he turns pro.
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 18, 2014 at 10:18 AM
i mean may nag offer kaya kay kobe paras ng lucrative offer dito sa pilipinas to play for their school?
Meron siyempre brader ....... the one and only.
http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/kobe-paras-move-to-us-has-blessings-of-la-salle-backer-cojuangco-says-dad-benjie-v02
" As of now syempre, priority pa rin niya yun (commitment with La Salle). Syempre si Boss Danding naman kasi yung nagpapa-aral sa kanila sa high school … silang magkapatid (ni Andre), syempre, priority pa rin namin ang La Salle. " - Benjie Paras
Kita mo na, High School pa lang alaga na ni Danding ang player ...... illegal ang ganito sa ibang bansa. Tsk tsk tsk.
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 18, 2014 at 04:47 PM
Meron siyempre brader ....... the one and only.
http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/kobe-paras-move-to-us-has-blessings-of-la-salle-backer-cojuangco-says-dad-benjie-v02
" As of now syempre, priority pa rin niya yun (commitment with La Salle). Syempre si Boss Danding naman kasi yung nagpapa-aral sa kanila sa high school … silang magkapatid (ni Andre), syempre, priority pa rin namin ang La Salle. " - Benjie Paras
Kita mo na, High School pa lang alaga na ni Danding ang player ...... illegal ang ganito sa ibang bansa. Tsk tsk tsk.
Lumalapit ang graysa so sino naman ang tatanggi when Benjie knows he and his sons are in good hands under the sponsorships donated or should I say it better "OFFERED" by BIG Boss Danding.
Post by: SiCkBoY on Oct 18, 2014 at 10:48 PM
Post by: mattia on Oct 19, 2014 at 12:15 AM
i mean may nag offer kaya kay kobe paras ng lucrative offer dito sa pilipinas to play for their school?
Yup. Kobe was supposed to play for DLSU. But dad Benjie opted for an international experience. If he makes it good there, there's a brighter future for that kid. Maybe the first ever pinoy to play in the NBA?
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 19, 2014 at 01:01 AM
Hindi naman illegal dito. And no reason for it to be illegal for now.
Every reason to make it illegal, because it's extremely unethical and unfair.
It's not illegal now, simply because there are no clear-cut defined rules ..... it's funny, most of the general guidelines and rules that the UAAP and NCAA leagues follow were patterned after the US NCAA - except, for the very strict rules on recruitment. ;)
Methinks, it was all gentlemen agreements for the longest time (exactly like the PBA) ...... everything changed when alumni groups got more powerful and vocal ex. DLSU alumni group clamor in the 90's ousting Villavicencio which started their heavy Filam "recruitment".
Things went totally bad when some schools accepted cronies and tycoons, giving them the title of Patron.
Post by: SiCkBoY on Oct 19, 2014 at 02:20 AM
Every reason to make it illegal, because it's extremely unethical and unfair.
Unfair to whom exactly?
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It's not illegal now, simply because there are no clear-cut defined rules ..... it's funny, most of the general guidelines and rules that the UAAP and NCAA leagues follow were patterned after the US NCAA - except, for the very strict rules on recruitment. ;)
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Methinks, it was all gentlemen agreements for the longest time (exactly like the PBA) ...... everything changed when alumni groups got more powerful and vocal ex. DLSU alumni group clamor in the 90's ousting Villavicencio which started their heavy Filam "recruitment".
Things went totally bad when some schools accepted cronies and tycoons, giving them the title of Patron.
So what's wrong with that? The alumni has a vested interest in their school's sports programs.
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 19, 2014 at 06:33 AM
If this was a professional league wherein players have the leverage of unrestricted free-agency - money will play a part on ones choice of team.
But the UAAP and NCAA are collegiate leagues. We always hear and use the term student-athletes ..... meaning student first, athlete second.
That would hardly be the case if a businessman, instead of say, a faculty member, would be doing the recruiting right?
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 19, 2014 at 06:39 AM
Post by: DVD_Freak on Oct 19, 2014 at 06:46 AM
Actually kaya nga nagsisikap ang mga young players now is becoz of that dream to be recognized and be paid big in the future so absolutely nothing wrong with this sponsorships from the tycoons to represent their schools and perhaps their companies.
I wouldn't exactly say there's nothing wrong. Maybe it's legal. Parang at an early age, these kids are sort of selling themselves to the highest bidder. Then the recruits are technically enrolled in the school but never really attend classes. Still they get their diplomas. There is certainly something inherently wrong with that.
Post by: SiCkBoY on Oct 19, 2014 at 07:31 AM
Unfair to everyone else brader.
Are you referring to the other schools? Well, I don't really think so. Assuming that all the UAAP schools offer a scholarship to Kobe Paras, the likes of FEU and Adamson would not be chosen anyway.
Post by: SiCkBoY on Oct 19, 2014 at 07:35 AM
I wouldn't exactly say there's nothing wrong. Maybe it's legal. Parang at an early age, these kids are sort of selling themselves to the highest bidder. Then the recruits are technically enrolled in the school but never really attend classes. Still they get their diplomas. There is certainly something inherently wrong with that.That's not true for everyone. Nasa student na yun kung papasok sila o hindi.
Some of the players were classmates of mine in certain subjects. Dino Aldueger and Don Allado for instance, are absent half the time and even when they do show up for class, they are usually clueless. Ritualo, on the other hand, tries his best to attend all his classes, naka double major pa. And he asks the class as to who would be willing to tutor him, since he doesn't really have a lot of time.
Post by: DVD_Freak on Oct 19, 2014 at 07:41 AM
That's not true for everyone. Nasa student na yun kung papasok sila o hindi.
That's just it. Optional sa kanila yun papasok while the rest...required.
Some of the players were classmates of mine in certain subjects. Dino Aldueger and Don Allado for instance, are absent half the time and even when they do show up for class, they are usually clueless. Ritualo, on the other hand, tries his best to attend all his classes, naka double major pa. And he asks the class as to who would be willing to tutor him, since he doesn't really have a lot of time.
But it only takes a few taking advantage of that "privilege" to make it true di ba? Dino Aldeguer and Don Allado have already proven the pitfalls of such. So it just proves there really is something inherently wrong with it. But it's legal. Ritualo might just be more of the exception than the rule.
Post by: SiCkBoY on Oct 19, 2014 at 07:49 AM
But it only takes a few taking advantage of that "privilege" to make it true di ba? Dino Aldeguer and Don Allado have already proven the pitfalls of such. So it just proves there really is something inherently wrong with it. But it's legal. Ritualo might just be more of the exception than the rule.Again, that's not always true. Do they fail subjects? The answer is yes. Actually, what I noticed is, DLSU does not have a say in this.
Some professors rightfully fail them because they deserve to fail, some professors don't.
One professor said to the class, "they already have their careers in front of them. Why would I want to ruin it?" Do I agree with him? Maybe. Maybe not.
As to selling oneself to the highest bidder, that's true whether one is shopping for a school or looking for a job. That's life.
Post by: DVD_Freak on Oct 19, 2014 at 07:58 AM
Again, that's not always true. Do they fail subjects? The answer is yes. Actually, what I noticed is, DLSU does not have a say in this.
Some professors rightfully fail them because they deserve to fail, some professors don't.
One professor said to the class, "they already have their careers in front of them. Why would I want to ruin it?" Do I agree with him? Maybe. Maybe not.
As to selling oneself to the highest bidder, that's true whether one is shopping for a school or looking for a job. That's life.
So I gather they didn't graduate/get their diplomas?
That is still my point. Some professors rightfully fail them... some don't If they deserve it, dapat professors fail them. Hindi some don't. So some wrongfully pass them. Mali yun analogy yata yun shopping for a school and looking for a job. You are not really looking for remuneration or compensation when "choosing" for a school right? Yun job naman talaga your main objective is to get paid.
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 19, 2014 at 08:06 AM
As to selling oneself to the highest bidder, that's true whether one is shopping for a school or looking for a job. That's life.
Indeed, money plays a big part when one looks for work or some other similar things.
However, the money placed in your pocket or account, should not play a part when a student chooses a school ....... simply put, it's completely unethical and should be illegal as well.
Heck, we patterned our local collegiate leagues from the US NCAA, wherein such an act (directly pay and benefits to would be recruits and their dependents) is illegal ...... why not make it illegal now.
How about elections ...... voters giving their votes to the highest bidder - do we dismiss this and just say that's life.
Indeed it's happening and its the sad reality - but everyone who doesn't sell their find vote-selling & vote-buying, find it unethical and illegal right?
Post by: SiCkBoY on Oct 19, 2014 at 08:09 AM
However, in elections, the candidates also sell themselves to the public. That's what I was referring to. In many situations in life, you sell yourself.
Post by: SiCkBoY on Oct 19, 2014 at 08:12 AM
That's just it. Optional sa kanila yun papasok while the rest...required.
No. This is college ha, not high school. No one is required to come to class. If you can just show up during midterms and finals and be able to pass your exams, you'll pass the course.
Post by: DVD_Freak on Oct 19, 2014 at 08:15 AM
No. This is college ha, not high school. No one is required to come to class. If you can just show up during midterms and finals and be able to pass your exams, you'll pass the course.
So you can actually not attend class at all basta show up and pass the exams? Di ba may minimum number of absences lang?
Post by: SiCkBoY on Oct 19, 2014 at 08:16 AM
So I gather they didn't graduate/get their diplomas?
One professor said to the class, "We professors cannot prevent you from graduating. We can only delay."
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That is still my point. Some professors rightfully fail them... some don't If they deserve it, dapat professors fail them. Hindi some don't. So some wrongfully pass them.
It depends on the personal stand of the professor in that matter. That has nothing to do with the school, based on what I've seen.
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Mali yun analogy yata yun shopping for a school and looking for a job. You are not really looking for remuneration or compensation when "choosing" for a school right? Yun job naman talaga your main objective is to get paid.
May compensation/renumeration pa rin, just not in monetary form but in the form of quality education.
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 19, 2014 at 08:16 AM
Vote-buying is not the appropriate analogy. It is illegal and immoral per se.
However, in elections, the candidates also sell themselves to the public. That's what I was referring to. In many situations in life, you sell yourself.
So brader, you find nothing wrong when say, Danding Cojuangco directly gives money to a HS player and his dependents, so as to influence the player to commit to play for the DLSU Seniors?
Post by: SiCkBoY on Oct 19, 2014 at 08:18 AM
So you can actually not attend class at all basta show up and pass the exams? Di ba may minimum number of absences lang?Nung college, wala akong maalala. They don't even check for attendance.
Post by: SiCkBoY on Oct 19, 2014 at 08:20 AM
So brader, you find nothing wrong when say, Danding Cojuangco directly gives money to a HS player and his dependents, so as to influence the player to commit to play for the DLSU Seniors?That's like vote-buying. What do we always say when it comes to vote buying? Take the money, but vote as you will. Mali ba ang voter if he does that?
Post by: DVD_Freak on Oct 19, 2014 at 08:22 AM
One professor said to the class, "We professors cannot prevent you from graduating. We can only delay."So diplomas are already a "given".
It depends on the personal stand of the professor in that matter. That has nothing to do with the school, based on what I've seen.Do these professors also give the same concession/consideration to all students? Meaning wrongfully pass them as well?
May compensation/renumeration pa rin, just not in monetary form but in the form of quality education.But remuneration is in monetary form. Remuneration is not quality education.
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 19, 2014 at 08:28 AM
That's like vote-buying. What do we always say when it comes to vote buying? Take the money, but vote as you will. Mali ba ang voter if he does that?
So, you do find it unethical (or illegal) as well ...... like me, like many in the thread and like the US NCAA and many other countries.
As to vote-buying, I don't even care if the vote-seller even votes (or not) for the one who paid him - the mere fact that he/she accepted money during elections isn't right for me.
Post by: SiCkBoY on Oct 19, 2014 at 08:37 AM
So diplomas are already a "given".
Unless you get kicked out, wala naman age limit sa pag aaral.
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Do these professors also give the same concession/consideration to all students? Meaning wrongfully pass them as well?
Again, it's a personal stand of each professor, not a school policy.
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But remuneration is in monetary form. Remuneration is not quality education.
Well, just delete renumeration from what I said.
Post by: DVD_Freak on Oct 19, 2014 at 08:41 AM
Nung college, wala akong maalala. They don't even check for attendance.
Meron pa rin attendance according to the DLSU handbook....
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2.6.
Students render themselves ineligible for a passing grade in a given
course for the trimester if they are absent from class for more than
two and a half times the number of class meetings in a week, such
as: more than 12 1/2 times in a class meeting five times a week;
more than 10 times for a class meeting four times a week; more
than 7 1/2 times for a class meeting thrice a week; more than five
times for a class meeting twice a week; more than 2 1/2 for a class
meeting once a week.
Post by: DVD_Freak on Oct 19, 2014 at 08:49 AM
Unless you get kicked out, wala naman age limit sa pag aaral.Meron na ba na kick out sa DLSU na heavily recruited player in the school's history?
Again, it's a personal stand of each professor, not a school policy.So there's double standard for star athletes and normal students then as far as professors are concerned... meaning "unofficial" double standard.
Well, just delete remuneration from what I said.Kaso my point is specifically and particularly remuneration.
Post by: SiCkBoY on Oct 19, 2014 at 10:25 AM
Post by: SiCkBoY on Oct 19, 2014 at 11:19 AM
If unethical, which ethical boundaries are violated? If unfair, who are the aggrieved parties?
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 19, 2014 at 11:59 AM
^Pero wala naman sweldo si Kobe Paras. Pinag aral lang sya.
No offense bro, I don't think that Danding Cojuangco will only provide tuition money to Kobe & Andre Paras.
Post by: SiCkBoY on Oct 19, 2014 at 01:23 PM
No offense bro, I don't think that Danding Cojuangco will only provide tuition money to Kobe & Andre Paras.But that's not based on fact, and we can't just keep on assuming that everyone is corrupt. At least the scholarship was admitted. So if we base everything on facts, is it still unethical? Unfair?
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 19, 2014 at 02:09 PM
Kung si Michael Christian Martinez announced in public that he needed private sponsorships to continue his training in the field of ice skating since the gov't has no funds to help him out even if he will represent the entire Philippines in all his international competitions.
Nobody cared except SM since they needed Micheal to promote their ice skating arenas.
Now if any of your talented young sons or daughters who will be noticed as having the potentials of making it big in the future are being offered financial assistances, scholarships and sponsorships by tycoons for the cause of developing and polishing those talents and in return promoting them, will you not agree?
Of course being elders, everybody wants a bright future for his and her off springs so if the opportunities are being offered there's no reason not to grab the best offer of them all.
Post by: leomarley on Oct 19, 2014 at 02:18 PM
Nung college, wala akong maalala. They don't even check for attendance.
May limit. Naaalala ko noon sa UST hanggang 3 absences lang pwede or else incomplete.
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 19, 2014 at 03:18 PM
But that's not based on fact, and we can't just keep on assuming that everyone is corrupt. At least the scholarship was admitted. So if we base everything on facts, is it still unethical? Unfair?
Yup, even if it's just the tuition fee itself, services or any benefit that will cause influence or lead the recruit to a preferred school - is considered unethical and illegal by the US NCAA ....... it should be the same here.
Post by: DVD_Freak on Oct 19, 2014 at 04:25 PM
Let's face it. Those young talents needed funds to develop them into better athletes.
Kung si Michael Christian Martinez announced in public that he needed private sponsorships to continue his training in the field of ice skating since the gov't has no funds to help him out even if he will represent the entire Philippines in all his international competitions.
Nobody cared except SM since they needed Micheal to promote their ice skating arenas.
Now if any of your talented young sons or daughters who will be noticed as having the potentials of making it big in the future are being offered financial assistances, scholarships and sponsorships by tycoons for the cause of developing and polishing those talents and in return promoting them, will you not agree?
Of course being elders, everybody wants a bright future for his and her off springs so if the opportunities are being offered there's no reason not to grab the best offer of them all.
I don't think receiving around P60K in monthly "allowances" counts as funds to develop them into better athletes. Correct me if I am wrong, yun P60k na yun ginagamit yan on everything and zero ang napupunta to develop them into better athletes. Pwede siguro sa cell phones, laptops, gadgets....dates na rin siguro. :D Yun case ni Michael Christian Martinez totoo na siguro napupunta na yun sa training niya. Malamang reimbursement method yun or yun check ng sponsor niya nakapangalan dun sa kailangan niya for training.
Of course no parent naman will deny if someone will sponsor everything para sa child mo through athletics. Biruin mo.... may condo na, may P60K monthly, may kotse pa, hindi na kailangan pumasok sa school at sigurado nang may diploma ka. ;D Wala nang paghihirapan pa! San ka pa! And there's nothing inherently wrong with that? Bale wala na yun tinuturo ng mga magulang natin na kailangan paghirapan natin ang lahat ng gusto nating makamit.
Post by: SiCkBoY on Oct 19, 2014 at 05:27 PM
Yup, even if it's just the tuition fee itself, services or any benefit that will cause influence or lead the recruit to a preferred school - is considered unethical and illegal by the US NCAA ....... it should be the same here.This is what I want to understand. We can't just say that it's unethical in the US NCAA ergo, it should also be unethical here. The circumstances and environment in the US could be totally different and their reasons for disallowing such sponsorships may be totally inapplicable here.
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 19, 2014 at 05:56 PM
The US NCAA chose to put strict rules regarding recruitment - the main rule is clear; HS recruits aren't supposed to be swayed by anyone affiliated with any school, via money, benefits, services, etc.
The rules may not be totally effective, (heck, there are still violators even to this day), but the attempt to create a LEVEL PLAYING field is there.
Here's a very recent Charles Barkley interview regarding NCAA recruitment - Sir Charles might have some conflicting opinions on the rules (he admits to receiving cash as a HS player), but he acknowledges the presence of such rules in the NCAA.
http://sports.yahoo.com/video/charles-barkley-got-money-under-110000328.html
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 19, 2014 at 06:56 PM
I don't think receiving around P60K in monthly "allowances" counts as funds to develop them into better athletes. Correct me if I am wrong, yun P60k na yun ginagamit yan on everything and zero ang napupunta to develop them into better athletes. Pwede siguro sa cell phones, laptops, gadgets....dates na rin siguro. :D Yun case ni Michael Christian Martinez totoo na siguro napupunta na yun sa training niya. Malamang reimbursement method yun or yun check ng sponsor niya nakapangalan dun sa kailangan niya for training.
Of course no parent naman will deny if someone will sponsor everything para sa child mo through athletics. Biruin mo.... may condo na, may P60K monthly, may kotse pa, hindi na kailangan pumasok sa school at sigurado nang may diploma ka. ;D Wala nang paghihirapan pa! San ka pa! And there's nothing inherently wrong with that? Bale wala na yun tinuturo ng mga magulang natin na kailangan paghirapan natin ang lahat ng gusto nating makamit.
I'm sure before one is offered that huge amount of sponsorship eh pinaghirapan na ng bata para mapansin sya at hangaan.
Now after one receives that kind of sponsorship, one has to work double hard in order to live up to the expectations of the sponsors.
Hindi rin madali ang magsponsor. It's like gambling coz one cannot be sure everything will turn out right.
Post by: DVD_Freak on Oct 19, 2014 at 08:32 PM
I'm sure before one is offered that huge amount of sponsorship eh pinaghirapan na ng bata para mapansin sya at hangaan.
Now after one receives that kind of sponsorship, one has to work double hard in order to live up to the expectations of the sponsors.
Hindi rin madali ang magsponsor. It's like gambling coz one cannot be sure everything will turn out right.
While high school students do dream of making it in the PBA, never pa yata nasa consciousness ng bata ang "kumita" ng pera in exchange for playing basketball. It's more of the parents yata who negotiate with a school's patron. When these kids play, they play for the love of the game and the admiration of fans plus generally being popular. I don't think these 15, 16 year olds work hard para mabigyan ng condo, car, a monthly of P60K and an automatic diploma even w/o studying. Kung aalukin mo nga naman ng ganun, sinisilaw mo ng maaga sa mga materialistic na bagay.
Post by: leomarley on Oct 19, 2014 at 08:42 PM
Post by: mattia on Oct 19, 2014 at 09:41 PM
These, however, are not done to all players. They are the exceptions to the rule. Just the Tengs, Ravenas, Bobby Ray Parks or just those who excel and have the potential to become star players. The other lesser players receive, well, less.
This is also to counter the possibility of falling prey to the game fixing syndicates. The easiest to target are the skilled players who are poor and not well off and who don't get enough benefits from the school. Again, madaming ganyan. Some coaches I know are complaining. May mga handlers yun mga "star" players nila. Very difficult to deal with since these players just want to get their daily meals, survive and help their poor families. When they get offered P50,000 para ihulog ang laro, what can they do? They don't care about the future as all they want is to alleviate their current pathetic plight.
Bottom line, pera para lang talaga lahat. Secondary na yun pride and glory for the school. Very sad indeed.
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 19, 2014 at 10:40 PM
^ All points are valid, especially on values in accepting outrageous perks.
These, however, are not done to all players. They are the exceptions to the rule. Just the Tengs, Ravenas, Bobby Ray Parks or just those who excel and have the potential to become star players. The other lesser players receive, well, less.
This is also to counter the possibility of falling prey to the game fixing syndicates. The easiest to target are the skilled players who are poor and not well off and who don't get enough benefits from the school. Again, madaming ganyan. Some coaches I know are complaining. May mga handlers yun mga "star" players nila. Very difficult to deal with since these players just want to get their daily meals, survive and help their poor families. When they get offered P50,000 para ihulog ang laro, what can they do? They don't care about the future as all they want is to alleviate their current pathetic plight.
Bottom line, pera para lang talaga lahat. Secondary na yun pride and glory for the school. Very sad indeed.
In short just swallow the principles and be practical. Pag may dumating na grasya one should just take it bastat legal.
Actually those tycoons shed out lots of money to lure talents to represent and give glory to the establishments they own so I one is offered, then he is expected to give his best to promote it.
Just look at SM, they invested on NU and after some years of patience, they finally achieve what they want and that's to be #1 in UAAP basketball and even in the cheer dance they won back to back.
This is only the 1st step for NU to be recognized as one of the elite schools in the field of sports and I'm sure they will be aiming for education next and make NU one of the elite schools at par with Ateneo and DLSU.
Post by: Oloap on Oct 20, 2014 at 06:39 AM
In short just swallow the principles and be practical. Pag may dumating na grasya one should just take it bastat legal.
Yes, and with this kind of thinking, of the general population not just of the players and their parents, it is no wonder that our country is going to the dogs. Evident in our elections.
Sorry for the OT.
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 20, 2014 at 06:57 AM
ganito lang yung sa akin. if you are playing in an amateur league, then you're not supposed to take favors and payments for your services.
+ 1TB
Taken from a Bleacher Report article (re: US NCAA recruitment violations) :
" College sports are sports at their purest level, without the addition of professional ego, pay for play ...... In a world littered with professional sports, it should be the desire of those at the collegiate level to keep this level pure"
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 20, 2014 at 06:59 AM
Yes, and with this kind of thinking, of the general population not just of the players and their parents, it is no wonder that our country is going to the dogs. Evident in our elections.
Sorry for the OT.
Well said ...... and do not apologize for OT, it's much relevant to the thread.
Post by: SiCkBoY on Oct 20, 2014 at 08:39 AM
Yes, and with this kind of thinking, of the general population not just of the players and their parents, it is no wonder that our country is going to the dogs. Evident in our elections.
Sorry for the OT.
In logic, this argument is called "poisoning the well."
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 20, 2014 at 03:22 PM
In logic, this argument is called "poisoning the well."
Actually there's nothing to argue but just to accept the fact that both parties want to benefit from each other.
Products and establishments need endorsers and those endorsers can be as young as babies and as old as grannies.
The point is if there's an offer, AN IRRESISTABLE OFFER, who will ever decline and stick to his principles and end up with nothing?
Jeron Teng graduated from Xavier High, Xavier doesnt have a college and he needs to choose a school for college.
NU gave him an offer and so did DLSU which made the sweeter offer.
He and his family chose DLSU. Did they make the wrong choice?
Of course not since we all know playing and representing an elite school in DLSU is already a great honor.
Another example is Manny Pacquiao. KIA from no where made him an offer of being a playing coach in the PBA. Of course we all know Pacquiao doesnt have the knowledge and more the experience in pro basketball but he still grabbed that opportunity so what's wrong with that?
Bastat hindi illegal, take all you can agad.
Be practical.
Post by: Verbl Kint on Oct 20, 2014 at 04:41 PM
Jeron Teng is a student and a minor.
Post by: DVD_Freak on Oct 20, 2014 at 07:41 PM
In short just swallow the principles and be practical. Pag may dumating na grasya one should just take it bastat legal.So never mind the principles basta may pera kuha agad.
Actually there's nothing to argue but just to accept the fact that both parties want to benefit from each other.In other words.... gamitan.
The point is if there's an offer, AN IRRESISTABLE OFFER, who will ever decline and stick to his principles and end up with nothing?So money is everything.
Bastat hindi illegal, take all you can agad.Basta legal, pagkakitaan mo na as much as you can.
Be practical.
You mean there is nothing wrong with all of these? ;D I don't know ha! Hehehe! Parang to sum it all up.... pabayaan mo na yun prisipyo mo kung nagugutom ka naman. So ibenta mo na yun sarili mong prisipyo at sulitin mo yun pagkakakitaan mo. Essentially ibenta mo na yun kaluluwa mo in exchange naman mayaman ka or malaki ang kinita mo..... And I guess there's nothing wrong with that? ;D
Post by: anya618 on Oct 20, 2014 at 08:05 PM
sino kaya ito? >:D
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Oct 20, 2014 at 08:09 PM
2 Star Player ng UUAP, may silent rivalry; pakitang-tao lang ang pagkakaibigan? (http://www.pinoyparazzi.com/2-star-player-ng-uuap-may-silent-rivalry-pakitang-tao-lang-ang-pagkakaibigan/)
sino kaya ito? >:D
Kiefer and Jeron. Mama Teng has been trying to get better deals with advertisers for the Teng Brothers packaging them as a 2 for 1 deal sometimes just to get ahead of the other camp.
Post by: SiCkBoY on Oct 20, 2014 at 08:51 PM
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 20, 2014 at 09:43 PM
So never mind the principles basta may pera kuha agad.
In other words.... gamitan.
So money is everything.
Basta legal, pagkakitaan mo na as much as you can.
You mean there is nothing wrong with all of these? ;D I don't know ha! Hehehe! Parang to sum it all up.... pabayaan mo na yun prisipyo mo kung nagugutom ka naman. So ibenta mo na yun sarili mong prisipyo at sulitin mo yun pagkakakitaan mo. Essentially ibenta mo na yun kaluluwa mo in exchange naman mayaman ka or malaki ang kinita mo..... And I guess there's nothing wrong with that? ;D
What did they do wrong? They were offered to promote and represent an elite school.
Can you elaborate what kind of dignity they destroyed in exchange for money and perhaps a bright future?
In the case of Jeron Teng, if you were Alvin Teng what will be your decision? What will be your best advice for your son? Accept the offer of Danding and play for DLSU or which school do you want him to play for? UST, FEU, UE, Ateneo, NU, Adamson or schools in he NCAA?
Now if you think they did all wrong than what was the right thing to do then?
Post by: DVD_Freak on Oct 20, 2014 at 10:04 PM
What did they do wrong? They were offered to promote and represent an elite school.
Can you elaborate what kind of dignity they destroyed in exchange for money and perhaps a bright future?
In the case of Jeron Teng, if you were Alvin Teng what will be your decision? What will be your best advice for your son? Accept the offer of Danding and play for DLSU or which school do you want him to play for? UST, FEU, UE, Ateneo, NU, Adamson or schools in he NCAA?
Now if you think they did all wrong than what was the right thing to do then?
I was specifically replying to your very words.... swallowing principles in exchange for money, both parties want to benefit from each other, sticking with your principles will end you up with nothing, as long as it's legal, take everything you possibly can.
There's inherently nothing wrong with those?
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 20, 2014 at 11:27 PM
In logic, this argument is called "poisoning the well."
sad state anywhere, when anyone use legality and the lack of clear cut rules and policy in patronizing unethical and blatant disregard to sense of order and say there is nothing wrong with it. i agree, our country is indeed going to the dogs.
off course i want my children to get a very secured future for them, off course i dream of having a super athlete and talented basketball player bring the big bucks eventually but I will always inculcate values of being an excellent student more than a great player and allow my children to choose which school to play at with motivation of where he can be secure excellent education more than anything else.
Post by: VenoM_Unleashed on Oct 21, 2014 at 11:55 AM
Congrats NU!
Baka mag sale ang sm or libreng points sa advantage card!
Nagdilang Anghel ka, Sir :D
SM to hold sale in honor of NU Bulldogs’ UAAP championship win
http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/sm-to-hold-sale-in-honor-of-nu-bulldogs-uaap-championship-win
The National University Bulldogs will be giving their supporters another reason to smile after SM Supermalls announced a three-day sale in selected outlets in celebration of NU’s recent championship in the UAAP Season 77 men’s basketball tournament.
The Bulldogs will be lauded with a ‘Victory Sale’ after ending a 60-year title drought in the collegiate league last week.
NU, behind Cameroonian center Alfred Aroga and veteran point guard Gelo Alolino, defeated FEU in a three-game UAAP Finals series that ended with a 75-58 Bulldogs win in Game Three last Wednesday.
The Sy family, which owns the SM Group of Companies, holds majority ownership of the university and has supported the one-time lackluster sports program and changed it into the powerhouse it has become.
In the first half of the UAAP schedule, NU has clinched titles in men’s and women’s basketball, men’s beach volleyball, men’s badminton and the UAAP cheerdance competition.
The announcement on social media stated that five branches – SM City Manila, SM City San Lazaro, SM City Sta. Mesa, SM Store Quiapo and Harrison Plaza – will be participating in the sale.
The promotional poster also stated that shoppers could have the chance to meet the NU squad at the sale.
Post by: oweidah on Oct 21, 2014 at 12:44 PM
Post by: steelcrazy on Oct 21, 2014 at 04:45 PM
Nagdilang Anghel ka, Sir :D
SM to hold sale in honor of NU Bulldogs’ UAAP championship win
http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/sm-to-hold-sale-in-honor-of-nu-bulldogs-uaap-championship-win
The National University Bulldogs will be giving their supporters another reason to smile after SM Supermalls announced a three-day sale in selected outlets in celebration of NU’s recent championship in the UAAP Season 77 men’s basketball tournament.
The Bulldogs will be lauded with a ‘Victory Sale’ after ending a 60-year title drought in the collegiate league last week.
NU, behind Cameroonian center Alfred Aroga and veteran point guard Gelo Alolino, defeated FEU in a three-game UAAP Finals series that ended with a 75-58 Bulldogs win in Game Three last Wednesday.
The Sy family, which owns the SM Group of Companies, holds majority ownership of the university and has supported the one-time lackluster sports program and changed it into the powerhouse it has become.
In the first half of the UAAP schedule, NU has clinched titles in men’s and women’s basketball, men’s beach volleyball, men’s badminton and the UAAP cheerdance competition.
The announcement on social media stated that five branches – SM City Manila, SM City San Lazaro, SM City Sta. Mesa, SM Store Quiapo and Harrison Plaza – will be participating in the sale.
The promotional poster also stated that shoppers could have the chance to meet the NU squad at the sale.
This is what I mean.
These tycoons have to unload millions to lure the best talents in order to promote them and bring them the glory they want to become famous.
Post by: Waxx on Oct 21, 2014 at 05:44 PM
Post by: anya618 on Oct 21, 2014 at 06:14 PM
kahit naman di manalo NU may sale parin yan.. season na e.. :D
sale sa MOA nung oct 17-19
Post by: sovrain on Oct 21, 2014 at 08:33 PM
sale sa MOA nung oct 17-19same sale days din sa sm baguio
Post by: the_w0rks on Oct 22, 2014 at 08:51 AM
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Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 22, 2014 at 10:14 PM
Congrats to my alma mater for accomplishing the 5-peat. kaya pa ba ang 6-peat? :D
tindi ng beda eh
Post by: frootloops on Oct 22, 2014 at 10:42 PM
Baste's record is already beaten. Now let's go for the sixth!
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 22, 2014 at 11:29 PM
Post by: Verbl Kint on Oct 23, 2014 at 03:39 AM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 24, 2014 at 12:03 AM
Post by: frequenzy on Oct 24, 2014 at 12:39 AM
wala na semerads dito right?last year nila ngayon. since nakuha sila both sa pba.
Post by: weightlifter on Nov 07, 2014 at 11:23 AM
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Post by: mattia on Nov 30, 2014 at 01:09 AM
I watched game 1 of the PCCL finals and I was impressed by the perimeter shooting of San Beda. Not just Amer but seemingly anyone else on the team can knock down a jumper. I don't watch the NCAA, shooter ba talaga ang mga players sa NCAA o San Beda lang? Or they were just really on yesterday?
Watched the game live at Ynares and you're right, San Beda shot the lights out from three point range vs DLSU. Amer, Sara and this rookie Tongco( or Tiongco) are very good shooters. Yun dating players na Semerad brothers are also dead shot from the 3. I think the NCAA has pretty much good shooters also and has produced a lot of snipers like Atoy Co ( Mapua ) Duremdes ( JRU ) Kevin Alas ( Letran ) and many more...
Game 2 on Monday will be an interesting one as DLSU tries to tie the series to 1-1.
Post by: mattia on Jan 13, 2015 at 01:00 PM
Mbala might be banned from the UAAP. Sayang naman.
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jan 13, 2015 at 01:40 PM
http://www.spin.ph/basketball/uaap/news/ben-mbala-ligang-labas-uaap-ban-eligibility-rules-la-salle-green-archers-uaap-residency-rules
Mbala might be banned from the UAAP. Sayang naman.
Hindi naman. Just an additional one year residency. He's not helping his case. He's telling everyone in the interview the reason why this is being brought out is that the other schools are afraid of him. These other schools will be voting come near season opening on his eligibility to play. He better play the meek and repentant guy rather than declare he's the best thing to ever play in the uaap and he's getting prevented because all the other schools are afraid of him. Similar to the Ola-Mbala twitter war. He ended up looking like a fool.
Post by: mattia on Jan 13, 2015 at 01:45 PM
Hindi naman. Just an additional one year residency. He's not helping his case. He's telling everyone in the interview the reason why this is being brought out is that the other schools are afraid of him. These other schools will be voting come near season opening on his eligibility to play. He better play the meek and repentant guy rather than declare he's the best thing to ever play in the uaap and he's getting prevented because all the other schools are afraid of him. Similar to the Ola-Mbala twitter war. He ended up looking like a fool.
Oh yes I stand corrected. Just one year residency.
Mbala is a good and powerful player but he's got some attitude problem that needs to be managed.
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Jan 13, 2015 at 03:33 PM
Oh yes I stand corrected. Just one year residency.
Mbala is a good and powerful player but he's got some attitude problem that needs to be managed.
Yep. He even declared and promised a 6-peat for DLSU. He's a good and powerful player. outplaying and outpowering some pba players also but attitude wise he needs to be managed. Masyado ata lumaki after he got acquired by DLSU from SWU. Well who wouldn't be, given the amounts involved... mas malaki pa than a max contract rookie pba player.
Post by: SiCkBoY on Mar 17, 2015 at 10:55 PM
Here's an interesting segment on (US) NCAA:
http://youtu.be/pX8BXH3SJn0 (http://youtu.be/pX8BXH3SJn0)
Post by: mattia on May 01, 2015 at 09:11 AM
Ateneo didn't join, too bad.
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The San Beda-DLSU opening game proved to be a thriller as SBC won on OT. But it was La Salle's Caracut, a former Red Cub, who stole the show from everyone as he drained 6 3's! Ganda ng hugot ng La Salle na ito.
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Sana San Beda La Salle ulit sa championship. These two teams are evenly matched IMO.
Post by: sardaukar on May 02, 2015 at 06:29 PM
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Post by: newwaveboy on Jul 20, 2015 at 11:10 AM
Hope UP does well in the upcoming UAAP season.
(http://i60.tinypic.com/ap2t1.jpg)
I like it ...... but not the write-up which follows the unveiling of the logo.
" The main logo highlights our institution's unique history and tradition – catalysts for change and defenders of the people "
Half-truths IMO. ;)
Post by: mattia on Jul 20, 2015 at 11:43 AM
Let's enjoy the new season and cheer for our alma mater!
Post by: mattia on Jul 20, 2015 at 11:54 AM
NCAA opening na naman pala this Saturday. Going for 6-peat na San Beda. Mukhang mahirap pa rin tapatan. Pero I'd like to see other schools challenging my alma mater para naman may konting thrill. :D
You got your wish the_works. Letran Knights just handed the Lions its first loss in the elims.
Letran has a new manager in Pacman. Although he wasn't there during the game but Buboy Fernandez.
Post by: the_w0rks on Jul 22, 2015 at 09:49 AM
You got your wish the_works. Letran Knights just handed the Lions its first loss in the elims.
Letran has a new manager in Pacman. Although he wasn't there during the game but Buboy Fernandez.
I mean, sa Finals. Wala din si Amer. Delikado Red Lions nito. Out for a few months daw coz of dislocated shoulder.
Post by: vinci on Sep 05, 2015 at 04:49 PM
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Post by: omypet on Sep 06, 2015 at 02:27 PM
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 06, 2015 at 03:58 PM
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 06, 2015 at 05:59 PM
ADMU playing just as hard, but it's only Ravena on the offensive end.
Montinola should have a big smile on his face now ...... panalo ang FEU at si Pingoy nagkalat.
Post by: Superman on Sep 06, 2015 at 07:56 PM
Post by: brainwashed on Sep 07, 2015 at 08:32 AM
Read more at http://www.spin.ph/basketball/uaap/news/bo-perasol-ateneo-blue-eagles-blowout-loss-feu-tamaraws-uaap-season-78#brP7x1LMFyIHBADs.99 (http://www.spin.ph/basketball/uaap/news/bo-perasol-ateneo-blue-eagles-blowout-loss-feu-tamaraws-uaap-season-78#brP7x1LMFyIHBADs.99)
Ateneo has gone nowhere since Bo Perasol took over. When you go into a game with the mindset of only finding out how you would fare against the perceived team-to-beat, that is basically the same as thinking you have no chance of winning. Tama ba namang ganyan ang mindset na ituro ng isang coach sa kanyang mga manlalaro? Tama na. Sobra na. Palitan na. >:D
Post by: deist on Sep 07, 2015 at 09:04 AM
Ravena is such a crafty scorer, hoping to see him in Gilas uniform in the future :)
Post by: puffalan84 on Sep 07, 2015 at 09:10 AM
Post by: Superman on Sep 07, 2015 at 09:40 AM
Hands down Kiefer is one of the best, if not the best collegiate player today. I feel the Ateneo's line-up is competitive but the coach has a different philiosophy which seems is not a match to the team.
My fearless forecast for the Final Four:
FEU
ADMU
DLSU
UST
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 08, 2015 at 02:12 AM
Ateneo coach Bo Perasol sees a team going nowhere after disjointed performance in UAAP openerThere's a bit of commotion over at the Atenista fb group about this. Many alumni want him out asap while recent members of past UAAP champion teams are asking for sobriety.
Read more at http://www.spin.ph/basketball/uaap/news/bo-perasol-ateneo-blue-eagles-blowout-loss-feu-tamaraws-uaap-season-78#brP7x1LMFyIHBADs.99 (http://www.spin.ph/basketball/uaap/news/bo-perasol-ateneo-blue-eagles-blowout-loss-feu-tamaraws-uaap-season-78#brP7x1LMFyIHBADs.99)
Ateneo has gone nowhere since Bo Perasol took over. When you go into a game with the mindset of only finding out how you would fare against the perceived team-to-beat, that is basically the same as thinking you have no chance of winning. Tama ba namang ganyan ang mindset na ituro ng isang coach sa kanyang mga manlalaro? Tama na. Sobra na. Palitan na. >:D
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 08, 2015 at 05:11 AM
But to be fair to him and ADMU last game, FEU was shooting lights out from wire to wire. ADMU gave effort and was scrambling due to FEU's great ball movement and shooting. Hard to stop a team shooting like that.
Perasol did get ADMU to the top seed last season, best to ride him out. A couple of wins against the low tiered teams will silence that alumni crowd. Best to replace in the offseason.
This is the UAAP, where before the first game is even played, one can tell right away who'll be the bottom three and the top five teams. In many cases, you'll know right away who'll make the final four ex.team filled wih vets and/or bluechip rookies
It's a great league but parity has long been a problem, moreso the past decade with the way recruitment is done by these tycoons.
Post by: vinci on Sep 09, 2015 at 04:56 PM
http://www.spin.ph/basketball/uaap/news/jett-manuel-up-maroons-beat-la-salle-green-archers-jeron-teng (http://www.spin.ph/basketball/uaap/news/jett-manuel-up-maroons-beat-la-salle-green-archers-jeron-teng)
bonfire ulet! ;D
Post by: retro12195 on Sep 09, 2015 at 05:00 PM
(http://assets.rappler.com/612F469A6EA84F6BAE882D2B94A4B421/img/E624C5DE41CD45F8B36E87C8D83C583E/uaap-season-78-men-basketball-schedule-edit_E624C5DE41CD45F8B36E87C8D83C583E.jpg)
Post by: comet on Sep 09, 2015 at 09:20 PM
Post by: Superman on Sep 09, 2015 at 09:40 PM
UP over DLSU
UST over FEU (by 1pt)
Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 09, 2015 at 10:03 PM
I've been the harshest critic of Bo Perasol in these threads for sometime now ....... calling by him by his long-standing PBA monicker, Bobo Perasol, more than a few times.
But to be fair to him and ADMU last game, FEU was shooting lights out from wire to wire. ADMU gave effort and was scrambling due to FEU's great ball movement and shooting. Hard to stop a team shooting like that.
Perasol did get ADMU to the top seed last season, best to ride him out. A couple of wins against the low tiered teams will silence that alumni crowd. Best to replace in the offseason.
This is the UAAP, where before the first game is even played, one can tell right away who'll be the bottom three and the top five teams. In many cases, you'll know right away who'll make the final four ex.team filled wih vets and/or bluechip rookies
It's a great league but parity has long been a problem, moreso the past decade with the way recruitment is done by these tycoons.
FEU did shot the lights out of the Araneta that game. I became an instant admirer of Pogoy, Tolomia and Belo, in this afternoons game though, Pogoy and Tolomia seems to be not what they were the first game.
Pinggoy is out of sync though I recalled him to be like a scoring machine nung high school kaya lang tanda ko buwaya eh. may isang player dati sa feu na kasama ni pinggoy na mas bumilib ako, yung matindi din ang shooting, sino na nga yun at nasan na sya?
by the way yung gwyne capacio anak ni glen? mukhang matindi din yung player na yun.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 09, 2015 at 10:07 PM
Post by: Superman on Sep 09, 2015 at 10:17 PM
FEU did shot the lights out of the Araneta that game. I became an instant admirer of Pogoy, Tolomia and Belo, in this afternoons game though, Pogoy and Tolomia seems to be not what they were the first game.
Pinggoy is out of sync though I recalled him to be like a scoring machine nung high school kaya lang tanda ko buwaya eh. may isang player dati sa feu na kasama ni pinggoy na mas bumilib ako, yung matindi din ang shooting, sino na nga yun at nasan na sya?
by the way yung gwyne capacio anak ni glen? mukhang matindi din yung player na yun.
Yes sir. He is from LS Zobel (HS)
Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 09, 2015 at 10:58 PM
Yes sir. He is from LS Zobel (HS)
ang galling mag laro, mukhang next big thing sa uaap.
Post by: bejiboys on Sep 09, 2015 at 11:40 PM
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Sep 10, 2015 at 12:32 AM
I've been the harshest critic of Bo Perasol in these threads for sometime now ....... calling by him by his long-standing PBA monicker, Bobo Perasol, more than a few times.
But to be fair to him and ADMU last game, FEU was shooting lights out from wire to wire. ADMU gave effort and was scrambling due to FEU's great ball movement and shooting. Hard to stop a team shooting like that.
Perasol did get ADMU to the top seed last season, best to ride him out. A couple of wins against the low tiered teams will silence that alumni crowd. Best to replace in the offseason.
This is the UAAP, where before the first game is even played, one can tell right away who'll be the bottom three and the top five teams. In many cases, you'll know right away who'll make the final four ex.team filled wih vets and/or bluechip rookies
It's a great league but parity has long been a problem, moreso the past decade with the way recruitment is done by these tycoons.
During his first year as coach, some of my friends have been calling for his head. I tried to believe in him that he would evolve and adapt unfortunately, he has not. He still keeps on running the same plays over and over again. Which worked last year in the elimination round when Ravena just took over and elevated his game play. But come the final four, every figured out how to stop Ateneo. NU just kicked ateneo out of the final four with one simple plan. Stop Ravena. But Bo being the stubborn ox that he is keeps using ISO plays for kiefer and paid dearly in the final four showdown with NU. No variations on screens, flares, etc. for the other players. He just wants to run ISO all day long and it's only two players on the team that could create their own shots.. Kiefer and Chris Newsome.
Last sunday, i watched lived and it was painful to look at the match not because of the points. I can accept defeat but not that way. It was like watching a barangay level team competing against a well coached UAAP team / PBA team (dare i say..). You see the quick reaction of FEU to whatever "defense" ateneo threw at them. Did a zone, broke it down with a dribble drive and kick out to perimeter players. Man to Man D, quickly beat their defenders with mismatches. On the offensive end... stale as ever. the ball stays long with the ball handler and at the last 10 secs. that's when they panic and swing to it to kiefer when he's on the floor and pray he makes a shot.
The only way for ateneo to win is by defense. force turnovers and score on the transition. If it's half court sets, then we're good as gone. Unfortunately, we ain't that fast to keep attacking the basket and score in transition.
Also, what I can't figure out is his system for replacing a player on court. You've got some players making 1 mistake and they get replaced away. You've got some other players making 2-4 mistakes and they haven't been replaced.
You can't do that as it makes players jittery and they can't build up the confidence / rhythm. Destroys their flow. This is not the professional league.
I have a lot more to say but might take me all night. Besides, i'm not a coach. just an armchair analyst. Just praying a miracle will happen.
UST coach just fired off a shot against Ateneo in today's game:-
PHSports LiveScores @LiveScoresPH 25m25 minutes ago
Bong: walang depensa yung kalaban ng FEU last time...
But can't fault him. it was true. stupid coach of ours. He is only rivaled in this dept. by the coach of our rivals ironically. haha!
ang galling mag laro, mukhang next big thing sa uaap.
Unfortunately sir, his growth was stunted when he reached the seniors and he had the unfortunate timing of entering a squad with good wing men. Also, he had injuries that contributed to his stunted growth.
It's his last year playing for the blue and white. When he joined the seniors, i had high hopes for him but he couldn't get over this hump. He's a scoring machine in the juniors. It might be his breakout year this year but you'd still see him making simple mistakes. I hope it would be his swan song this year for the blue and white.
You can read more about him here:-
http://bleachersbrew.blogspot.com/2015/03/stuck-in-moment-gwyne-capacio-searches.html
Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 10, 2015 at 01:18 AM
in my little knowledge of the game, mukhang walang intensyon ang admu na pigilin yung mga tumitira sa kalaban, siguro kahit si ravena na lang sa offense basta masipag sila sa defense as a team baka iba ang naging resulta.
I told myself kaninang nanuod ako ilalampaso ng feu and ust pero nanalo ang ust though sa tingin ko mahihirapan pa din talaga sila dahil sa point guard nila pero at least malaking bagay na naipanalo nila ang close game, dati di ba laging nag collapse yan sa dulo?
last year na ni ravena ngayon di ba? meron kayang papalit sa kanya? when I saw pessumal naala ko ito yung shooter dati pero parang di rin ganun ang impact sa game nila.
one thing sure mukhang ma hook na ulit ako sa uaap., salamat sa enlightenment sir about capacio
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 10, 2015 at 06:02 AM
During his first year as coach, some of my friends have been calling for his head. I tried to believe in him that he would evolve and adapt unfortunately, he has not. He still keeps on running the same plays over and over again. Which worked last year in the elimination round when Ravena just took over and elevated his game play. But come the final four, every figured out how to stop Ateneo. NU just kicked ateneo out of the final four with one simple plan. Stop Ravena. But Bo being the stubborn ox that he is keeps using ISO plays for kiefer and paid dearly in the final four showdown with NU. No variations on screens, flares, etc. for the other players. He just wants to run ISO all day long and it's only two players on the team that could create their own shots.. Kiefer and Chris Newsome.
ISO plays, slow in game adjustments, etc ...... that's Bo Perasol alright.
If its any consolation brader, Perasol is mich better now in the UAAP than he was in the PBA.
Some of Perasol's PBA miscues - spending high picks on known scrubs such as Marvin Cruz, Jai Reyes (the transaction on this one deserves its own article), Chris Ross (back when Ross was all hype), giving up on Ross after 2 conf for a very old Paolo Mendoza.
Like I said, best to ride him out ...... moreso its Ravena's swan song. Wins against UP, UE, ADU, etc might start them rolling.
Post by: jonjon on Sep 10, 2015 at 09:28 AM
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Post by: frootloops on Sep 10, 2015 at 02:32 PM
Maganda pala laro sa sunday. UP vs UST. Battle of undefeated teams! O0 Go USTe!!!
Yang ang perfect example ng separation of Church and State.
Post by: mattia on Sep 10, 2015 at 03:17 PM
Fast forward to 2015, UP is now powered by three former Red Lions and mentored by an ex Red Cub Rensy Bajar. ;) And they won 2 straight games into the season.
Just an observation from a Bedan. LOL
Post by: choyb on Sep 10, 2015 at 04:00 PM
Yang ang perfect example ng separation of Church and State.Ha ha, that's a good one bro!
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 13, 2015 at 03:45 PM
A new coaching staff plus hosting the UAAP this year doing them wonders so far.
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Sep 13, 2015 at 04:17 PM
Post by: Superman on Sep 13, 2015 at 04:24 PM
No matter how this season goes for UP, this is one of the most liveliest & hardworking MAROONS team I've seen in a long time - both on offense and defense.
A new coaching staff plus hosting the UAAP this year doing them wonders so far.
Agree!! Too bad Jet Manuel's 3pt shots in Q4 didn't connect. Else...it would have been a different ballgame.
UST's gem is Ed Daquioag! Reminds me of former PBA player Dodong Postanes in terms of built
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Sep 13, 2015 at 04:24 PM
Post by: Wiggum on Sep 13, 2015 at 04:58 PM
Agree!! Too bad Jet Manuel's 3pt shots in Q4 didn't connect. Else...it would have been a different ballgame.
UST's gem is Ed Daquioag! Reminds me of former PBA player Dodong Postanes in terms of built
Agree, sirs. It was really great to see the Fighting Maroons play with a lot of energy and heart. Despite the loss, this should be an exciting season for UP.. for a change. :) UP Fight!
Congrats to UST! They have quite a player there in Daquioag.
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 13, 2015 at 05:08 PM
Agree!! Too bad Jet Manuel's 3pt shots in Q4 didn't connect. Else...it would have been a different ballgame.
UST's gem is Ed Daquioag! Reminds me of former PBA player Dodong Postanes in terms of built
Postanes is a good comparison, though one doesn't have to go that far in past.
The PBA's Denok Miranda & Mark Barroca comes to mind ...... Daquioag looks and plays like Barroca - matigas ang katawan, mababa ang dribble & has similar ways in creating separation from the defense to get shots off ...... Barroca is faster though & has a deadlier mid-range game.
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 13, 2015 at 05:27 PM
Post by: Superman on Sep 13, 2015 at 05:55 PM
Postanes is a good comparison, though one doesn't have to go that far in past.
The PBA's Denok Miranda & Mark Barroca comes to mind ...... Daquioag looks and plays like Barroca - matigas ang katawan, mababa ang dribble & has similar ways in creating separation from the defense to get shots off ...... Barroca is faster though & has a deadlier mid-range game.
Agree on this comparison!
Post by: Superman on Sep 13, 2015 at 05:56 PM
Prince Rivero thriving on Juno Sauler's system whereas his fierce NCAA Juniors rival Arvin Tolentino is not getting the minutes from Bo Perasol anymore.
Heard from the grapevine that Arvin is a "headcase"?
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Sep 13, 2015 at 06:21 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 13, 2015 at 07:09 PM
No matter how this season goes for UP, this is one of the most liveliest & hardworking MAROONS team I've seen in a long time - both on offense and defense.I have never seen a UP Team as resilient and hingry as this one, dario is one heck of a player, no superstars, no problem, they just couldnt die, im a Thomasian but i feel sinwerte lang ang UST kanina, di ko type yung ferrer, pa cute ang style ng laro he could have dominated anyone defending him pero pala,ya lamya sa kilos nya
A new coaching staff plus hosting the UAAP this year doing them wonders so far.
Bakit parang ang UST di na yata naka tapat ng magaling na point guard?
Post by: Superman on Sep 13, 2015 at 07:09 PM
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 13, 2015 at 07:23 PM
I have never seen a UP Team as resilient and hingry as this one, dario is one heck of a player, no superstars, no problem, they just couldnt die, im a Thomasian but i feel sinwerte lang ang UST kanina, di ko type yung ferrer, pa cute ang style ng laro he could have dominated anyone defending him pero pala,ya lamya sa kilos nya
Bakit parang ang UST di na yata naka tapat ng magaling na point guard?
Indeed, matagal-tagal na din mula nung huling nagkaroon nang bluechip PG ang USTe ..... the last one was probably Dale Singson. Jeric Fortuna turned out okay, but not on the level of Singson & David.
Alam naman nating lahat kung paano ang takbo nang college recruitment for the last decade ...... tycoons & businessmen doing the recruitment instead of school officials. It's extremely unethical and IMO should have been the real target of Sen. Pia Cayetano's bill. But this belongs to another forum on another day. ;)
Beg to differ somewhat on Kevin Ferrer, brader ....... the guy plays forward (SF) and this position is usually the one who gets the least ball time on the court. Not unless you're Lebron or Durant, SF's just dont get much plays called for them and Ferrer is no different.
The nice thing about Ferrer is the willingness to go after rebounds ....... the one real downside to his game, he tends to fall in love with the 3-point shot during certain games.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 13, 2015 at 07:51 PM
Sana maka tsamba naman ng magaling na PG ang UST sa mga susunod na panahon, parang sila lang yata ang team na walang magaling na PG
Post by: Superman on Sep 13, 2015 at 08:59 PM
Is there a newcomer being developed by USTe to eventually take over Abdul's slot?
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 14, 2015 at 06:49 AM
Looking at the top teams, it seems relatively common for this generation to have a 6'4" or 6'5" small forward who can slash and shoot threes. And a center, who's at least 6'6". Back in the day, that height was already the tallest player in the PBA.
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Post by: jonjon on Sep 29, 2015 at 07:56 AM
Come from behind win by ust against admu. Ferrer naka 6 na 3pointers yata.
Great come from behind win by the Tigers! Lumabas pagkabwakaw ni Kiefer dito. Pati kahinaan ni Bobo Perasol magcoach
Post by: vinci on Sep 30, 2015 at 07:25 PM
Post by: newwaveboy on Sep 30, 2015 at 07:38 PM
It's a make or break year for UST. It's the final year for their top guys & there's absolutely no one to take the reins next year.
Unlike a few other schools, UST doesn't play the tycoon/crony game ...... If UST is to win a championship, it's this year or not for a loooong while.
Post by: retro12195 on Sep 30, 2015 at 07:52 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 01, 2015 at 12:48 AM
UST made a lot of 3's, while DLSU missed a lot of FT's ...... bad combination for DLSU. I still fully expect DLSU to make the F4, they're too talented and deep.
It's a make or break year for UST. It's the final year for their top guys & there's absolutely no one to take the reins next year.
Unlike a few other schools, UST doesn't play the tycoon/crony game ...... If UST is to win a championship, it's this year or not for a loooong while.
sana may lumabas naman na player at magulang ng player na magpapahalaga sa prinsipyo para naman may chance ang UST na makakuha ng players na magagaling. a bit out of topic but I recalled during the first year of dindin Santiago sa college volleyball UST sya yung kapatid nya sa high school UST din, yung allysa valdez at kim fajardo UST high school din, after a year, Dindin transferred to NU, kasama kapatid nya, both tunred out to be the star player of NU, Alyssa ended up with Ateneo in college and is touted to be the best femal volleyball player sa country, kin is one of the best player of la sale. If UST is spending money and turning recrtuiment ala commercial way, malamang walang tatalo sa UST volleyball team for the longest time, ganyan din siguro nangyayari sa basketball team nila.
I recalled nuon, ready na si Jeron Teng to play for UST tapos naiba bigla istorya.
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 01, 2015 at 11:09 AM
When Danding entered the picture - tapos na ang boxing ....... it was also during that time that dad Alvin Teng "suddenly" became part of the SMCorp's then ABL team.
Like I've long ranted here, things like these are absolutely illegal in the US NCAA ..... even a small thing such as candy or clothes - bawal, para academic reasons lang ang maging dahilan nang pagpasok nang isang player (see the NBA's Steve Novak recent story about Billy Donovan recruiting him at FSU).
Sen. Pia Cayetano's bill had good intentions, but it was far from getting to the rootcause of the Pingoy issue ........ disclosure of all benefits of student-athletes get and removal of all these tycoons/cronies from school athletics is a good place to start.
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DLSU on rough sailing so far ...... sayang, kung hindi nag "ligang labas" itong si Ben Mbala, I'd easily pick DLSU to win it all. Mbala is that good.
Still, DLSU is too talented not to contend this year or at least make it to the F4.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 01, 2015 at 09:19 PM
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 01, 2015 at 09:28 PM
Si Montalbo ay na-injure. Too bad since the kid looks like a good UAAP PG.
Too bad also for Danding Cojuangco, as he was the one who personally "invested" in Montalbo.
Like I said, for genuine reforms to start in the UAAP ...... all benefits of student-athletes should be disclosed and all tycoons/cronies/businessman/boosters are to be removed from any athletics related events.
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Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Oct 11, 2015 at 06:01 PM
Congrats UST!
Post by: anya618 on Oct 20, 2015 at 05:59 AM
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 20, 2015 at 01:38 PM
Arriba Letran
Post by: lithium_deuteride on Oct 20, 2015 at 02:30 PM
Pati pala sa cheerdance competition may kontroberysa din, di ko maintindihan paano nanalo ang NU , I am from UST so obviously im dissapinted na di nag chapion and UST though a lot of people feel they derve it this year, if UST has not dpne enough, it shouldnt have been NU beating them. FEU's performance is fa better than NU.
Yup UST should have won, then UP or FEU before NU, which had a number of falls. I guess influential ang owners ng NU. Same guys that own the venue of the competition.
Post by: the_w0rks on Oct 20, 2015 at 03:51 PM
NCAA's final four starts today..
Arriba Letran
Dikit yata Mapua vs Letran? just looking at twitter posts. Sana San Beda vs Letran sa finals! Magulo yun. haha at pahirapan sa tickets. :(
Post by: brainwashed on Oct 20, 2015 at 04:01 PM
http://sports.inquirer.net/196688/drunk-ateneo-player-in-viral-video-to-face-sanctions
Ateneo suspends Apacible.
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/10/20/15/ateneos-apacible-face-disciplinary-actions
Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 20, 2015 at 04:08 PM
Post by: tony on Oct 20, 2015 at 04:39 PM
Ateneo suspends Apacible.
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/10/20/15/ateneos-apacible-face-disciplinary-actions
end of the season for hm...
Post by: Superman on Oct 20, 2015 at 04:47 PM
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 20, 2015 at 05:42 PM
Dapat hulihin din yung dalawang pulis na nagpasindak at bastang pinabayaan na lang umalis si Apacible ...... hindi nakakapagtaka kung bakit madaming gustong maging politico dito sa bansa - makakapag-nakaw ka na, may power tripping ka pa.
Post by: Verbl Kint on Oct 20, 2015 at 06:14 PM
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Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 20, 2015 at 07:45 PM
Let's see if the authorities enforce the laws or let this one "slip" away just like many past cases of rich youth gone wild.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 20, 2015 at 11:31 PM
Yup UST should have won, then UP or FEU before NU, which had a number of falls. I guess influential ang owners ng NU. Same guys that own the venue of the competition.
mukhang di mag participate and UP next year
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 20, 2015 at 11:39 PM
Drunk driving ...... idagdag pa natin ang pang-gulpi (van driver, as per the complainant), attempted na pang-gulpi, damage to property, pagpanggap bilang opisyal (usurpation), evading arrest, etc ...... all caught on video.
Let's see if the authorities enforce the laws or let this one "slip" away just like many past cases of rich youth gone wild.
related kaya ito kay john apacible na artista na pinatay ng tyuhin nya sa inuman?
Post by: leomarley on Oct 20, 2015 at 11:56 PM
Post by: jeckjeck on Oct 21, 2015 at 12:23 AM
related kaya ito kay john apacible na artista na pinatay ng tyuhin nya sa inuman?
Anak yata
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 21, 2015 at 12:51 AM
Anak yata
ayun
Post by: mattia on Oct 21, 2015 at 10:34 AM
As to why the 4 were benched, well, your guess is as good as mine. >:(
Post by: the_w0rks on Oct 21, 2015 at 10:44 AM
Post by: oweidah on Oct 22, 2015 at 04:24 AM
back then walang harang bleachers so nagliparan mga bote
ang saya ss labas abangan
Post by: deist on Oct 22, 2015 at 10:21 AM
I think it was in the 3rd quarter when they stopped the game & let the fans out, they finished the game in closed doors. After we left the venue my gf asked me: "Ganito rin ba sa UAAP?" ;D ;D
Post by: jackryan on Oct 22, 2015 at 01:53 PM
Post by: jjjeronimo on Oct 22, 2015 at 02:04 PM
Would be nice to have the top 3 teams of UAAP and NCCA slug it out... from there, send the best mythical five to GILAS !!! :)
This actually happens sa Filoil Flying V Cup di ba? Kaso, I don't think all the schools take it seriously.
Post by: oweidah on Oct 23, 2015 at 03:53 AM
sbc ateneo 77 finals closed door, tv lang
sbc won frankie lim jb yango abe king chuck barreiro chito n joey loyzaga
over the favored steve watson led eagles
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 23, 2015 at 04:35 AM
The game had to be stopped for various reasons ....... talo ang UST, naglalaro pa noon si Abbarientos for FEU eh.
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 23, 2015 at 08:53 AM
Pero finals pa din. Sana walang suntukan between the fans ng San Beda and Letran. haha
sana nga.. planning to watch later..
Post by: the_w0rks on Oct 23, 2015 at 09:56 AM
sana nga.. planning to watch later..
nice! nakakuha ka tickets for your side, bro? Sana next game makanuod ako. :D Saya nyan. nakakamiss yung energy sa arena.
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 23, 2015 at 01:22 PM
nice! nakakuha ka tickets for your side, bro? Sana next game makanuod ako. :D Saya nyan. nakakamiss yung energy sa arena.
walang nakuha ticket yung barkada ko, ubos daw.. stream na lng.. hehe
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Post by: Verbl Kint on Oct 27, 2015 at 02:37 PM
gaano kagulo sa nc dati?
sbc ateneo 77 finals closed door, tv lang
sbc won frankie lim jb yango abe king chuck barreiro chito n joey loyzaga
over the favored steve watson led eagles
Joey Loyzaga was still in high school then (batch '79 siya with Mike Advani). That Ateneo team was also talent-laden btw, with Joy Carpio, Padim Israel, Fritz Gaston, et al.
In any case, my titos have not-so-fond memories of the NCAA from the 70's, where fights would first break out from the stands of Araneta and would reach as far as Recto with visible street fights on major intersections.
It's a lot more peaceful now, thank goodness.
Post by: oweidah on Oct 27, 2015 at 04:44 PM
puro rizal memorial games naalala ko sa nc, sbc cubs kase hs ako nun time paalis na ube brothers hajji ali alejandro twins. early 70s ato badolato na.
game2 !
Post by: the_w0rks on Oct 27, 2015 at 10:33 PM
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as usual. Ubos agad tickets. haha
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Post by: oweidah on Oct 29, 2015 at 09:04 PM
sayang,,pero #7 nmn sungkit ng cubs
time to rebuild
go sanbeda fight !
Post by: oweidah on Oct 29, 2015 at 09:06 PM
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Post by: the_w0rks on Oct 29, 2015 at 09:32 PM
Congrats sa Letran. Well-deserved win.
Favorite chant ko during the game :
"Wag iboto! Wag iboto! Wag iboto!"
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Post by: choyb on Oct 30, 2015 at 05:19 AM
Totoo ba na may tig-100k kay Kuts Manny mga players ng Letran?Yung lang naman ang akala at tanging Alam niyà na mai-motivate ang tao...pera, pera, pera
He he
Post by: tony on Oct 30, 2015 at 07:12 AM
bilog ang bola.....
Post by: tony on Oct 30, 2015 at 07:13 AM
Totoo ba na may tig-100k kay Kuts Manny mga players ng Letran?
and why not? majority of players are not from very rich families, they can use the money...
Post by: the_w0rks on Oct 30, 2015 at 07:58 AM
I read accounts too that even after the game, pinagmumura pa din players ng San Beda ng Letran crowd. I dont get the hatred even after the victory.
Post by: fentom on Oct 30, 2015 at 09:01 AM
Bawi na lang next year. Can't wait to see Navarro and company play. Sayang di 100% si Amer. Nun 4th quarter na lang talaga siya nag effort e. Congrats Letran.
Post by: sabsar on Oct 30, 2015 at 09:18 AM
Totoo ba na may tig-100k kay Kuts Manny mga players ng Letran?
I hope so... For the players' sakes.
Post by: choyb on Oct 30, 2015 at 11:22 AM
Saw a picture of Letran's bonfire. May tshirt ng San Beda and other San beda props. Thats just in poor taste, IMO. Sa 9bonfires na napuntahan ko sa San Beda, I dont remember any time na may sinunog sa San Beda na items from any of the schools that it bested. Not even from the hated Abueva-led San Sebastian team.That is where I think the difference lies between schools. Quality of education , moral values & breeding.
I read accounts too that even after the game, pinagmumura pa din players ng San Beda ng Letran crowd. I dont get the hatred even after the victory.
Most especially ,Moral Values!!!
Post by: tony on Oct 30, 2015 at 11:40 AM
i heard nga na ateneo vs la salle games, basagan ng windshields after the game,
i hope wala na nito ngayon...
Post by: the_w0rks on Oct 30, 2015 at 12:03 PM
poor losers....this is not surprising at all...Wala na yatang ganyan ngayon kasi madali lang matrace yung culprits with the advent of phone cameras. Madali lang maging viral at kumalat sa social media.
i heard nga na ateneo vs la salle games, basagan ng windshields after the game,
i hope wala na nito ngayon...
Di naman sa pagiging sore loser yun. Tanggap naman ng community yung loss. In fact, madaming nag-acknowledge that Letran deserved it. The competition ended at the sound of the buzzer so I dont understand why they felt the need to burn San Beda shirts and props, and to shout invectives at players who were with their families.
Post by: tony on Oct 30, 2015 at 12:05 PM
Post by: bartender on Oct 30, 2015 at 12:59 PM
Totoo ba na may tig-100k kay Kuts Manny mga players ng Letran?
Isang taya nya lang yan sa casino.
Post by: bartender on Oct 30, 2015 at 01:01 PM
That is where I think the difference lies between schools. Quality of education , moral values & breeding.
Most especially ,Moral Values!!!
Let's not pin the blame on schools when it comes to moral values. I think that simply begins at home...
Post by: mac_daddy on Oct 30, 2015 at 01:26 PM
Next year babalik at babawi kami.... Mightier and Stronger!!!
Go San Beda Fight!!! O0
Post by: choyb on Oct 30, 2015 at 01:27 PM
Let's not pin the blame on schools when it comes to moral values. I think that simply begins at home...Ouch...hehe
Cheers
Post by: brainwashed on Oct 30, 2015 at 05:45 PM
Let's not pin the blame on schools when it comes to moral values. I think that simply begins at home...
I agree.
Post by: jeckjeck on Oct 30, 2015 at 06:52 PM
poor losers....this is not surprising at all...
i heard nga na ateneo vs la salle games, basagan ng windshields after the game,
i hope wala na nito ngayon...
But Letran won...
Post by: puffalan84 on Oct 30, 2015 at 08:42 PM
Wala na yatang ganyan ngayon kasi madali lang matrace yung culprits with the advent of phone cameras. Madali lang maging viral at kumalat sa social media.
Di naman sa pagiging sore loser yun. Tanggap naman ng community yung loss. In fact, madaming nag-acknowledge that Letran deserved it. The competition ended at the sound of the buzzer so I dont understand why they felt the need to burn San Beda shirts and props, and to shout invectives at players who were with their families.
Part of the game bro, pero di ako ok sa mga ganyang fans, 1 reason kaya di ko sinasama ung anak ko sa college games.. kaya lang di talaga mawawala, remember nung game 2 when a beda fan cursed at mark cruz, buti na lang may mga alumni ng beda and letran na umaawat.. Nga pala, Sa wed may game kme sa nakpil, sama ka
Post by: choyb on Oct 30, 2015 at 10:34 PM
I agree.I value & respect your opinion,
But sociologically, schools play a significant part on one,s value formation, just my humble opinion.
Congrats to letran.
Love & peace to all!
Post by: oweidah on Oct 31, 2015 at 12:06 AM
political figure c pakyaw, controversial pa so...
Post by: brainwashed on Oct 31, 2015 at 07:35 AM
I value & respect your opinion,
But sociologically, schools play a significant part on one,s value formation, just my humble opinion.
Congrats to letran.
Love & peace to all!
Probably true before, but not so nowadays. True in the primary level but not so much in the secondary and tertiary levels. At the secondary and tertiary levels, some students' values may still be affected and influenced by the school, but for most students their values are already set. It's difficult to teach old dogs new tricks. It's difficult to mold a person's values once it has been set.
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 31, 2015 at 08:04 AM
Probably true before, but not so nowadays. True in the primary level but not so much in the secondary and tertiary levels. At the secondary and tertiary levels, some students' values may still be affected and influenced by the school, but for most students their values are already set. It's difficult to teach old dogs new tricks. It's difficult to mold a person's values once it has been set.
Your statements goes against your own handle/sig brader ........ ;D. Just kidding.
Indeed, it's hard to teach new tricks to an old dog.
However, I get what @choyb might be saying ...... IMO schools nowadays, moreso those that claim to be leaders of higher learning in our country, are negligent in teaching proper values and integrity to its students.
One example is the UAAP itself, with some schools using known CRONIES as their patron for their sports programs ...... we teach history to students, to show them the evils of our past - yet fully embrace those same evils in the present. Maling mali para sa akin.
Post by: brainwashed on Oct 31, 2015 at 09:59 AM
Your statements goes against your own handle/sig brader ........ ;D. Just kidding.
Indeed, it's hard to teach new tricks to an old dog.
However, I get what @choyb might be saying ...... IMO schools nowadays, moreso those that claim to be leaders of higher learning in our country, are negligent in teaching proper values and integrity to its students.
One example is the UAAP itself, with some schools using known CRONIES as their patron for their sports programs ...... we teach history to students, to show them the evils of our past - yet fully embrace those same evils in the present. Maling mali para sa akin.
I guess we differ only in the extent or degree of belief in our educational institutions' inculcation of moral values to students.
@choyb is much more idealistic, believing that schools can still change students' moral values even at the college level. This may still be true for some schools.
I, on the other hand, believe that even if schools make it part of their mission and vision to make moral beings out of their students, it would be too late at the college level if the student had not acquired proper values from his younger years.
And you, sir newwaveboy, believe that schools are negligent in teaching proper values and integrity to students.
Three different perspectives. All are equally true depending on the situation. :)
Post by: oweidah on Oct 31, 2015 at 11:39 AM
may balak kaya c pakyaw?
Post by: newwaveboy on Oct 31, 2015 at 12:01 PM
nu henrysy, ue lucio tan may.ari, mapua malayan na, etc
may balak kaya c pakyaw?
If ever magtayo si Kots Manny nang Pacquiao University ....... it will be more known as "Pac U"
Post by: dodie on Oct 31, 2015 at 12:28 PM
Saw a picture of Letran's bonfire. May tshirt ng San Beda and other San beda props. Thats just in poor taste, IMO. Sa 9bonfires na napuntahan ko sa San Beda, I dont remember any time na may sinunog sa San Beda na items from any of the schools that it bested. Not even from the hated Abueva-led San Sebastian team.
I read accounts too that even after the game, pinagmumura pa din players ng San Beda ng Letran crowd. I dont get the hatred even after the victory.
bawi na lang tayo chief next year.....balik mendiola uli yan...... ;D ;D ;D
i was watching the game with my cousin whose from letran and a family friend who started FROKS along with gary vergel de dios.....sabi nya after maglabasan sa fb yung bonfire.....it was done in bad taste, kung nandun daw sya pinagbabatukan nya yung mga nag organize non....at the end of the day talo ako ng isang case na san mig at half kilo na sashimi! ayos lang, bawi na lang ako nex year! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 01, 2015 at 08:00 AM
I value & respect your opinion,
But sociologically, schools play a significant part on one,s value formation, just my humble opinion.
Congrats to letran.
Love & peace to all!
I just wonder, sa mga celebrations ba na ganyan walng mga school officers? Kung meron tapos pinabayaan lang yung ganung act, it says a lot I guess.
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 01, 2015 at 06:25 PM
Not to give an excuse to the jersey burning, celebrations could always be done in a boisterous yet civil manner ...... I'm glad that the OP fathers have started investigation and hopefully give out penalties or reprimands.
Post by: the_w0rks on Nov 02, 2015 at 09:38 AM
Part of the game bro, pero di ako ok sa mga ganyang fans, 1 reason kaya di ko sinasama ung anak ko sa college games.. kaya lang di talaga mawawala, remember nung game 2 when a beda fan cursed at mark cruz, buti na lang may mga alumni ng beda and letran na umaawat.. Nga pala, Sa wed may game kme sa nakpil, sama ka
I agree brother. Mahirap mawala yung cursing. I am guilty of doing the same during the San Beda- PCU finals featuring a Belga-Castro team (and may Espinas pa yata). I remember I was sitting sa patron seat sa Arenata near the basket and each time na malapit si Belga, I joined the Bedan crowed at calling him "Belidiot". Pero the jeering ended right when the buzzer sounded. Wala nang yabangan or personalan.
I understand na on a high lang siguro Letran community. Hopefully it is not really out of pure hate.
Pati si Racal intense pa din after the game:
http://sports.inquirer.net/197730/racal-apologizes-for-racist-remarks-on-adeogun
OT: PM kita brother about details ng game na yan ha if pwede ako makasama. :D
Post by: puffalan84 on Nov 02, 2015 at 10:10 AM
I agree brother. Mahirap mawala yung cursing. I am guilty of doing the same during the San Beda- PCU finals featuring a Belga-Castro team (and may Espinas pa yata). I remember I was sitting sa patron seat sa Arenata near the basket and each time na malapit si Belga, I joined the Bedan crowed at calling him "Belidiot". Pero the jeering ended right when the buzzer sounded. Wala nang yabangan or personalan.
I understand na on a high lang siguro Letran community. Hopefully it is not really out of pure hate.
Pati si Racal intense pa din after the game:
http://sports.inquirer.net/197730/racal-apologizes-for-racist-remarks-on-adeogun
OT: PM kita brother about details ng game na yan ha if pwede ako makasama. :D
Mali talaga yung Racal, both NCAA and PBA should penalize him, but for me words are just words.. ung sa prize money from Pacquiao, I think normal na yun.. imagine kung magkano tinatangap ng mga players from bigger schools, during recruit and after winning championship..
Post by: the_w0rks on Nov 02, 2015 at 10:21 AM
Mali talaga yung Racal, both NCAA and PBA should penalize him, but for me words are just words.. ung sa prize money from Pacquiao, I think normal na yun.. imagine kung magkano tinatangap ng mga players from bigger schools, during recruit and after winning championship..
Yep. Ateneo/Lasalle/SanBeda mas malaki pa binibigay. May narinig nga ako before kahit sa San Sebastian eh marami din bigayan for their recruits.
On top of that, may iba jan may mga gay benefactors pa. haha
Post by: the_w0rks on Nov 05, 2015 at 12:37 PM
daming issues off-court ng players ng ADMU ah.
Post by: sientobente on Nov 05, 2015 at 11:45 PM
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Nov 06, 2015 at 10:35 AM
^ Was reading about this Ikeh incident from another site. Parang kawawa naman itong import. Hinahabol kasi ng isang crazed fan/lover.
Once you go black, you never go back. haha! But seriously, kawawa nga eh. If you read the complaint / facts, yung prosecutor should have dismissed it. I guess, he saw pwede pag perahan. tsk tsk tsk.
Post by: Verbl Kint on Nov 09, 2015 at 04:01 PM
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Nov 09, 2015 at 04:47 PM
Ateneo might actually still nab 2nd place, if luck rolls their way.
Yep. That's best case scenario. on the flip side, worst case scenario would be them at third place and FEU at 2nd place.
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 12, 2015 at 04:16 PM
http://www.uclabruins.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=30500&ATCLID=210489089
On topic, Paras signed what is known in the US NCAA as the letter-of-intent which formalizes his intent to join his chosen school ....... this is similar to the document which Jerie Pingoy signed with the FEU Senior Team, before suddenly transferring to ADMU.
This is what caused all the outrage from FEU, starting the whole mess that is the revised UAAP residency rules - recently overturned by Sen. Pia Cayetano's bill.
Post by: dencio105 on Nov 12, 2015 at 04:31 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 12, 2015 at 06:42 PM
Kobe Paras officially joins the UCLA BRUINS ...... aside from Ray Parks, this is perhaps our best shot at having a Pinoy make it to the NBA.
http://www.uclabruins.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=30500&ATCLID=210489089
On topic, Paras signed what is known in the US NCAA as the letter-of-intent which formalizes his intent to join his chosen school ....... this is similar to the document which Jerie Pingoy signed with the FEU Senior Team, before suddenly transferring to ADMU.
This is what caused all the outrage from FEU, starting the whole mess that is the revised UAAP residency rules - recently overturned by Sen. Pia Cayetano's bill.
parang yung mga katulad ni pingoy ang ginawa mukhang di nagiging successful sa senior years nila?
about kobe sana lang di ma injure madami na akong nakitang magaling na player pero iba ang galling ni kobe, matangkad at agile and plays like an American, saan kaya sya mag shine ng husto, sa nba or european league?
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 12, 2015 at 07:40 PM
about kobe sana lang di ma injure madami na akong nakitang magaling na player pero iba ang galling ni kobe, matangkad at agile and plays like an American, saan kaya sya mag shine ng husto, sa nba or european league?
Yup, may speed and hops itong si Paras ....... plus he seems to have that drive to succeed. May swagger yung bata.
He's listed at 6'-6" which means he'll be likely pegged at the SG position ....... if ever Kobe Paras makes it to the NBA, he needs to develop everything, especially ball handling & outside shooting.
Post by: Verbl Kint on Nov 13, 2015 at 03:06 AM
Yup, may speed and hops itong si Paras ....... plus he seems to have that drive to succeed. May swagger yung bata.Kobe Paras is part of a blockbuster recruiting class for the Bruins. They're getting:
He's listed at 6'-6" which means he'll be likely pegged at the SG position ....... if ever Kobe Paras makes it to the NBA, he needs to develop everything, especially ball handling & outside shooting.
-- Lonzo Ball, a 6'5" pg who's probably going to do a one-and-done NCAA season before moving to the NBA
-- Ike Anigbogu, a 6'10" 240 lbs enforcer with good shot blocking and rebounding
-- Jaylen Hands, another top-ranking PG, will join in 2017
-- If the Bruins also sign T.J. Leaf, a top 6'10" PF prospect, then we're looking at a possible NCAA Tournament position for UCLA very soon.
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 18, 2015 at 07:10 PM
They always give up leads and crumble in the end.
No biggie though, it's almost guaranteed that DLSU will win it all next year.
UST, FEU, ADMU & NU are losing their main men next season ...... DLSU will retain their core and will have Ben Mbala next year.
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Nov 18, 2015 at 07:26 PM
Post by: brainwashed on Nov 19, 2015 at 11:26 AM
Yep. That's best case scenario. on the flip side, worst case scenario would be them at third place and FEU at 2nd place.
Sir, nagdilang-anghel ka! o dilang-demonyo ba? >:D
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Nov 20, 2015 at 11:11 AM
Sir, nagdilang-anghel ka! o dilang-demonyo ba? >:D
Haha! final four time. Hopefully, the boys in blue and white steps up and the annual FEU bench meltdown happens. If it does go our way, it's going to be UST vs. Ateneo. But i realistically think FEU is too athletic, too deep, and too well coached. FEU vs. UST finals. For FEU, the crown is for theirs to lose.
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 20, 2015 at 11:56 AM
Like always, UST is all heart ...... outside of their starters and Marvin Lee, they're very short on talent and very raw. Like I said, it's now or never for UST. Their main core will be graduating & it's inevitable that UST will be in UAAP hell for the foreseeable future - not unless they get lucky in their walk-in tryouts (UST doesn't play the tycoon-recruitment game).
The scary thing about both ADMU & NU is that both teams seem to be peaking at the right time of the season ....... in NU's case, they are in the same boat as last year & Alolino seems hell-bent on going out with a bang. If Alolino cuts down on his turnovers, UST better watch out.
Any team with a talent like Ravena is always dangerous ...... add the fact that they're moving the ball much better and faster the 2nd round. Who knows, Bobo Perasol might just redeem his name. ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 20, 2015 at 08:10 PM
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Nov 20, 2015 at 08:54 PM
Indeed, it's FEU's to lose ....... their too talented, too deep, well coached and very confident - sometimes being very confident, isn't a bad thing, like their last game against DLSU.
Post by: mattia on Nov 21, 2015 at 04:41 PM
FEU played their bench and still won against DLSU. Very deep line-up indeed!
Makes you wonder how they lost to NU in their recent game.
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Nov 21, 2015 at 05:01 PM
Makes you wonder how they lost to NU in their recent game.
Post by: vinci on Nov 21, 2015 at 05:32 PM
Post by: Verbl Kint on Nov 21, 2015 at 05:35 PM
What a game! Sibak na admuLooked like a foul on Wong. Did ADMU still have timeouts left? Great anticipation by Mac Belo.
Post by: mattia on Nov 21, 2015 at 05:56 PM
Looked like a foul on Wong. Did ADMU still have timeouts left? Great anticipation by Mac Belo.
Big Mac does it again! Congrats to FEU. What a game!
Post by: brainwashed on Nov 21, 2015 at 06:00 PM
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Post by: Wiggum on Nov 21, 2015 at 09:16 PM
http://youtu.be/Fk1kykOCoQ0 (http://youtu.be/Fk1kykOCoQ0)
Post by: mattia on Nov 22, 2015 at 06:00 PM
Congrats UST Tigers!
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Nov 22, 2015 at 11:27 PM
Sorry Miko sabi ni Nash dun sa interview hehe masama loob ni Miko Halili
Nash Racela is also atenean. Coach nash kept saying sorry to all the alumni and people he knew from Ateneo.
Tough loss for ateneo but breaks of the game and it's finally time to say goodbye to Kiefer, Von, Gwynne, and Fonzo, Lastly, can't wait to say goodbye to our genius of a coach only rivaled by Juno Sauler.
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Nov 25, 2015 at 03:27 PM
Mr. Conjuangco we want Coach Tad Baldwin ;)
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Nov 25, 2015 at 04:05 PM
DLSU has accepted the resignation of Coach Juno Sauler.
Mr. Conjuangco we want Coach Tad Baldwin ;)
Haha! We would have a better landing Coach Tab Baldwin, given how SMC has treated him in the past.
Post by: puffalan84 on Nov 25, 2015 at 04:13 PM
Post by: puffalan84 on Nov 25, 2015 at 04:15 PM
DLSU has accepted the resignation of Coach Juno Sauler.
Mr. Conjuangco we want Coach Tad Baldwin ;)
Jason Webb would have been a good choice kaya lang nasa PBA sya..
Post by: comet on Nov 25, 2015 at 04:24 PM
Post by: puffalan84 on Nov 25, 2015 at 04:32 PM
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 25, 2015 at 04:36 PM
All the current Final Four teams (UST, FEU, ADMU & NU) are going to lose their main men next year, while DLSU will retain theirs plus have the dominant Ben Mbala ....... DLSU will easily win the crown next year.
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Nov 25, 2015 at 04:52 PM
Danding can hire a circus-monkey as head coach for next season, DLSU will still win the championship next season.
All the current Final Four teams (UST, FEU, ADMU & NU) are going to lose their main men next year, while DLSU will retain theirs plus have the dominant Ben Mbala ....... DLSU will easily win the crown next year.
Post by: krets pulpol on Nov 25, 2015 at 05:04 PM
Post by: Superman on Nov 25, 2015 at 05:14 PM
Post by: comet on Nov 25, 2015 at 05:22 PM
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 25, 2015 at 05:41 PM
Post by: comet on Nov 25, 2015 at 05:53 PM
. yellow yata ang color ng fans ng both teams. O puro taga feu ang nanood?
Post by: zram18 on Nov 25, 2015 at 05:58 PM
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Nov 25, 2015 at 06:40 PM
That was also said during the 2013-2014 season and the community was hoping for Back to Back Championship. It did not happen.
It was Juno's first year and it was indeed plausible given how cerebral his coaching was and his in game adjustment was spot on.
One thing they don't have right now, consistency. They don't have reliable players as well. DLSU can't bank on Mbala alone, pre-season games don't validate his impact on the team.
Yep, preseason and being strong on paper is one thing and UST proved me wrong this year when i pegged them at 6th, with DLSU at 5th. Didn't bank on NU being a total let down.
Ben Mbala will be huge help to the front court of DLSU. I just want to see how Jeron Teng will share the ball with him. With Ravena graduating, next year would be Jeron's best chance of grabbing the MVP award. I don't think he or his mother would let that chance pass by.
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It looks like Aldin Ayo might be moving to DLSU.
Post by: krets pulpol on Nov 26, 2015 at 03:10 PM
It looks like Aldin Ayo might be moving to DLSU.
La Salle tabs Aldin Ayo as new head coach: reports
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/11/26/15/la-salle-tabs-aldin-ayo-as-new-head-coach-reports
If true, I find him a d*ck. Why leave when you have chances of back-to-back championships with Letran? Money talks.
Post by: mattia on Nov 26, 2015 at 03:24 PM
La Salle tabs Aldin Ayo as new head coach: reports
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/11/26/15/la-salle-tabs-aldin-ayo-as-new-head-coach-reports
If true, I find him a d*ck. Why leave when you have chances of back-to-back championships with Letran? Money talks.
Arriba La Salle!
Does this mean that Pacquaio isn't paying him enough? Haha.
Is Ayo a Lasallian?
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Nov 26, 2015 at 03:49 PM
La Salle tabs Aldin Ayo as new head coach: reports
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/11/26/15/la-salle-tabs-aldin-ayo-as-new-head-coach-reports
If true, I find him a d*ck. Why leave when you have chances of back-to-back championships with Letran? Money talks.
Arriba La Salle!
Does this mean that Pacquaio isn't paying him enough? Haha.
Is Ayo a Lasallian?
Nope, he's not a La Sallian.
He is beholden to ECJ. He is part of the political group of ECJ. He was a counselor ata in Sorsogon for two terms if i'm not mistaken.
Pang bawi lng ni Manny Pacquiao for the brouhaha with Ben Mbala. hahaha!
Post by: Superman on Nov 26, 2015 at 03:52 PM
Hoping that Franz will be back (this depends if his relationship w/ Boss Danding will be OK)...or maybe Siot since he is currently a deputy for the Archers
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 26, 2015 at 03:57 PM
If true, I find him a d*ck. Why leave when you have chances of back-to-back championships with Letran? Money talks.
Same here. If true, then it all the more proves, that Danding always gets what he wants (to buy) ....... be it players or coaches.
It's eerily similar to the way that Tim Cone was "bought" away from ALASKA to the SMCorp teams in the PBA ...... hehe, no coincidence that it was Danding's conglomerate that did the "buying".
Like I said, Danding can assign himself as DLSU head-coach and they will still win it all next season ....... very deep roster while the rest of the current F4 cast will be on transition.
Post by: mattia on Nov 26, 2015 at 03:58 PM
I like FEU as my parents are both from FEU. But since my wife is from UST, no choice but to root for the Tigers ;D
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 26, 2015 at 03:59 PM
Pang bawi lng ni Manny Pacquiao for the brouhaha with Ben Mbala. hahaha!
Hmm, possible nga ....... in a way, Pacquiao played a big part in Mbala getting caught.
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Nov 26, 2015 at 04:01 PM
Not final as per DLSU...
Hoping that Franz will be back (this depends if his relationship w/ Boss Danding will be OK)...or maybe Siot since he is currently a deputy for the Archers
Franz is already negotiating with Adamson after the snub by DLSU. haha!
Post by: krets pulpol on Nov 26, 2015 at 04:01 PM
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Nov 26, 2015 at 04:06 PM
I'd say no to another Pumaren coaching. He's done, move on with better tacticians.
Tonichi Yturri!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 26, 2015 at 04:23 PM
Pumaren has always been very spoiled when it comes to having a loaded roster (anyone remembers agent Mike Gonzales)...... with ADAMSON, he will have little talent - but he has always preached and got good defense from his teams, something which ADAMSON can use to win more games.
Post by: mattia on Nov 26, 2015 at 05:16 PM
Hmm, possible nga ....... in a way, Pacquiao played a big part in Mbala getting caught.
Oo nga pala!! Tama ka dun.
Danding bought the contract of Ayo. Pera para lang yan talaga.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 26, 2015 at 06:23 PM
Same here. If true, then it all the more proves, that Danding always gets what he wants (to buy) ....... be it players or coaches.
It's eerily similar to the way that Tim Cone was "bought" away from ALASKA to the SMCorp teams in the PBA ...... hehe, no coincidence that it was Danding's conglomerate that did the "buying".
Like I said, Danding can assign himself as DLSU head-coach and they will still win it all next season ....... very deep roster while the rest of the current F4 cast will be on transition.
di na ba uso ang prinsipyo ngayon?
maraming salamat sa letran community blah blah blah tapos lipat sa la salle?
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 26, 2015 at 06:33 PM
di na ba uso ang prinsipyo ngayon?
maraming salamat sa letran community blah blah blah tapos lipat sa la salle?
Brader, matagal nang pinatay ang fair play at prinsipyo sa UAAP/NCAA.
Post by: Superman on Nov 26, 2015 at 06:42 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 26, 2015 at 07:56 PM
Brader, matagal nang pinatay ang fair play at prinsipyo sa UAAP/NCAA.
grass roots pa lang sa basketball corruption na din ang nagyayari kaya wala na siguro talagang mangyayari sa Philippine basketball no wender the likes of Rayray Parks and Kobe Paras opted to play in US instead.
Post by: puffalan84 on Nov 26, 2015 at 09:24 PM
Post by: Verbl Kint on Nov 27, 2015 at 06:31 PM
Got word from a Letran alumnus that Ayo had a meeting w/ the Letran fathers this PM...it was a thank you and goodbye meeting...It looks like there are other things afoot, including an alleged 3M a year deal from DLSU for a top-caliber rookie MVP.
http://www.philstar.com/sports/2015/11/27/1526534/atoy-co-blasts-uaap-schools-pirating-ncaa-rookie-mvp-allwell-oraeme
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 27, 2015 at 07:11 PM
The buying of players, coaches, others, etc has long been present in the UAAP ....... like in the PBA, it's an open secret that everybody knows, but very few complain about - since they're up against powers that be.
I admire those very few that do voice out against the unfair practices e.g. Tommy Manotoc, Wifred Uytengsu, Yeng Guiao, JB Baylon, etc.
Matindi talaga dito sa Pilipinas, pati larong basketball binabahiran nang corruption.
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Nov 27, 2015 at 07:31 PM
I fully support Atoy Co, but he is many years too late ........ the "pirating/buying" he is ranting about has been happening for many years now.
The buying of players, coaches, others, etc has long been present in the UAAP ....... like in the PBA, it's an open secret that everybody knows, but very few complain about - since they're up against powers that be.
I admire those very few that do voice out against the unfair practices e.g. Tommy Manotoc, Wifred Uytengsu, Yeng Guiao, JB Baylon, etc.
Matindi talaga dito sa Pilipinas, pati larong basketball binabahiran nang corruption.
Atoy Co shouldn't be crying like he's a saint. He did it to UC earlier this year. Even wanting to pirate 5 players from UC of the Cesafi league.
Atoy Co defends Mapua recruitment tactics after UC cries foul over Menina 'poaching'
Read more at http://www.spin.ph/basketball/news/darrell-shane-menina-uc-webmasters-recruitment-mapua-mit-basketball-cry-foul
Contacted for comment by Spin.ph, Co said he did nothing wrong as far as offering Medina a chance to play for the Cardinals in the NCAA, stressing he was merely doing his job.
“I did nothing wrong. As a coach, it is my job to look for the best talent available to add to my team. And in (Shane) Menina, nakita ko na he’s one of the best, if not the best here in Cebu. So I talked to him and his parents after our game and they agreed to join my team,” said the Crispa legend.
Co also insisted no money was involved in the recruitment, saying he only told Medina about the opportunity to play in one of the most prestigious college leagues in the country and in being part of Mapua’s rich basketball program, which the former PBA MVP is trying to rebuild.
“No cash was involved. I only offered him a spot in the team and the opportunity na mapakita niya ang kakayahan niya,” said Co.
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According to UC’s associate head coach Joever Samonte, Menina was not the only player who was recruited by Mapua. Five players were offered spots in the Cardinals squad but only Menina and big man Marc Obado accepted the offer.
http://www.spin.ph/basketball/ncaa/news/darrell-shane-menina-university-of-cebu-leaves-joins-mapua-cardinals-cesafi-ncaa-webmasters
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 27, 2015 at 07:58 PM
As a head-coach, scouting & recruiting for talent is among the job functions.
Now, if it's a businessman/tycoon, who has no official affiliation with the school, doing the recruiting, then that's totally unethical and illegal.
Like I said, Sen. Pia Cayetano's recent law is very half baked - she should have targeted the rootcause of the recruitment & residency issues ....... removal of all businessmen & having full disclosure/audit of all student-athlete benefits is a good start to cleaning up the collegiate leagues.
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Nov 27, 2015 at 08:12 PM
“Mga walang delicadeza. Hindi sana bale kung galing high school paakyat ng varsity. Mamimili ang player kung saan niya gusto sa college, hindi yon nasa college na? Tapos after 3 yrs pinagtyagaan mo turuan at gumaling na tapos ngayon o-offer-an nila ng pera para maglaro sa kanila. Ganon ba ang sportsmanship,” Co asked
Post by: zram18 on Nov 27, 2015 at 08:34 PM
di naman assurance yun, look at Ateneo, 40 players ang nasa line up nila,pirate na lahat ng magagaling sa high schools including jerry pingoy ng FEU. lahat malalaki ang allowance,nasa pool nila ang magagaling na players hindi lang naglalaro yung iba ngayon,pero di naman pumasok sa final four.
why not develop your own players like FEU who scouts the countryside to look for players to develop.
they should learn how to wait for the fruit to ripen.
Post by: newwaveboy on Nov 27, 2015 at 08:39 PM
What Atoy Co should do now, is to reveal all that he knows, every fine detail ex. who, when, how much, etc.
Public shaming is one effective way to set things right nowadays - just look at what happened to SMCorp after they did not share their players for GILAS 3.0 ..... the heavy flak that they got resulted in their immediate cooperation for GILAS 4.0.
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Post by: vinci on Dec 02, 2015 at 06:11 PM
napanood ko lang yung early part ng 4th nung lumamang sila till the end. bat parang walang play para kay ferrer? puro si daquiaog till end game. costly TO at yung breakaway lay up attempt nya. sayang.
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Post by: vinci on Dec 02, 2015 at 06:12 PM
Medyo naging one-man team ang USTe by the later part of the game. No play at all.
exactly.
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Post by: newwaveboy on Dec 02, 2015 at 06:24 PM
As expected, FEU just too talented and too deep ....... expected din na UST will face a deficit and will mount one final comeback.
Abdul, like a good majority of all Afrcian-imports, has very poor fundamentals ....... two left feet syndrome, kaya karamihan sa mga imports puro travelling errors ang mga iyan. Good effort by Abdul, nonetheless.
Like I said, they can hand over the crown to DLSU as early as next week - all the Final 4 teams are losing their core, while DLSU maintains most of their guys, plus have Ben Mbala, easily one of the best imports to suit up for the collegiate leagues.
Post by: krets pulpol on Dec 02, 2015 at 06:32 PM
Costly turnovers by Daquioag. What happened to Ferrer?! He was silent in the second half.
Post by: newwaveboy on Dec 02, 2015 at 06:44 PM
If I were the UST coach, I woild have had Ferrer post up, instead of setting him up formlong shots.
Cant blame Daquioag for trying, he was the only one brave enough to win the game for UST.
Post by: zram18 on Dec 02, 2015 at 08:27 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 02, 2015 at 09:04 PM
Ferrer was kept in check by FEU ...... good denial defense on him.
If I were the UST coach, I woild have had Ferrer post up, instead of setting him up formlong shots.
Cant blame Daquioag for trying, he was the only one brave enough to win the game for UST.
I was thinking UST was outcoached, leading by 6 towards the end game Lee was shooting bricks, Orizu was in foul trouble yet there was no play down low. From the time the lead was at 6 points to the end, I don't think Ferrer was able to handle the ball. On the other hand, FEU kept attacking the defense of Lee and they were successful.
I guess UST fanatics set expectations of waiting several years again before even getting into the final 4.
Congratulations La Salle this early but who knows......
Post by: krets pulpol on Dec 06, 2015 at 10:35 PM
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Post by: questforthegoodlife on Dec 07, 2015 at 06:11 PM
Wow. Just imagine if Tab was able to coach Kiefer... :-/
He'd still be. In gilas lng though. But yes, sayang yung time ni kiefer under Bo.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 08, 2015 at 12:51 AM
Just saw a tweet confirming that the appointment of Tab Baldwin as Ateneo HC is official. That's quite an upgrade :)
will this change anything as far as who has the biggest chance in winning it all? I mean with La Salles' virtually intact line up, addition of Mbala and acquisition of Ayo?
by the way, any worthy player that might probably find his way to UST, kahit isang magaling ng PG lang sana.
Post by: newwaveboy on Dec 08, 2015 at 04:59 AM
will this change anything as far as who has the biggest chance in winning it all? I mean with La Salles' virtually intact line up, addition of Mbala and acquisition of Ayo?
IMO, not by much - talent almost always wins out in basketball and DLSU will simply be too talented and too deep next season.
I don't like the hiring of Tab Baldwin, for the same reason why I'm never in favor of imports playing in the collegiate leagues ....... collegiate basketball is one sport where our country has an absolute over-supply of local talent. Hiring foreign players/coaches will just displace a few more deserving people.
I'm with the BCAP (Yeng Guiao, at least) on this one, Tab running ADMU would be displacing a just-as or more deserving local coach .......Guiao used LETRAN's Ayo as an example of an "unknown" coach just waiting for his shot at coaching and showing great results.
No need to look far for ADMU, Sandy A. has long paid his dues serving as assistant coach in the UAAP and the PBA ...... he deserves a shot being head coach.
by the way, any worthy player that might probably find his way to UST, kahit isang magaling ng PG lang sana.
UST will be in UAAP seniors basketball hell for the next few seasons (at least) ...... the last Finals was their best shot at winning. Marvin Lee looks like the only nice piece left, Bonleon should be dropped asap.
Now that their man core is gone, they should get back to basics. UST doesn't play the tycoon-recruitment game and have always relied on walk-in tryouts and their HS program.
They should get back to what Aric Del Rosario did many years ago, by watching & recruiting players from a specific region ........ in Aric's time, he got players from his home province of Pampanga & the Tarlac areas.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 10, 2015 at 12:28 AM
IMO, not by much - talent almost always wins out in basketball and DLSU will simply be too talented and too deep next season.
I don't like the hiring of Tab Baldwin, for the same reason why I'm never in favor of imports playing in the collegiate leagues ....... collegiate basketball is one sport where our country has an absolute over-supply of local talent. Hiring foreign players/coaches will just displace a few more deserving people.
I'm with the BCAP (Yeng Guiao, at least) on this one, Tab running ADMU would be displacing a just-as or more deserving local coach .......Guiao used LETRAN's Ayo as an example of an "unknown" coach just waiting for his shot at coaching and showing great results.
No need to look far for ADMU, Sandy A. has long paid his dues serving as assistant coach in the UAAP and the PBA ...... he deserves a shot being head coach.
UST will be in UAAP seniors basketball hell for the next few seasons (at least) ...... the last Finals was their best shot at winning. Marvin Lee looks like the only nice piece left, Bonleon should be dropped asap.
Now that their man core is gone, they should get back to basics. UST doesn't play the tycoon-recruitment game and have always relied on walk-in tryouts and their HS program.
They should get back to what Aric Del Rosario did many years ago, by watching & recruiting players from a specific region ........ in Aric's time, he got players from his home province of Pampanga & the Tarlac areas.
for some reason madaming magagaling sa Pampanga, I recall yung mga powerhouse team ng UST dati maraming taga Pampanga like Ballesteros(not sure) and espino.
sana maka tsamba naman, yung pagkatalo nila sa FEU sa pananaw ko kung meron silang solid PG baka naiba ang istorya.
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Dec 10, 2015 at 12:38 AM
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/12/06/15/ateneo-set-to-name-tab-baldwin-as-head-coach-reports
Post by: krets pulpol on Dec 10, 2015 at 09:09 AM
The best coach is believing their players can do their jobs. It helps if they have a good set of superstars but it would be great if they can motivate and hone skills of bench players as well.
Post by: newwaveboy on Dec 10, 2015 at 09:10 AM
for some reason madaming magagaling sa Pampanga, I recall yung mga powerhouse team ng UST dati maraming taga Pampanga like Ballesteros(not sure) and espino.
sana maka tsamba naman, yung pagkatalo nila sa FEU sa pananaw ko kung meron silang solid PG baka naiba ang istorya.
Sobrang madaming magaling from Pampanga & the surrounding provinces. Right of the bat, PBA players Abueva, Arwind, Sangalang, Castro, etc.
Besides, being a hotbed of basketball, there are many Kapampangans with foreign lineage - kaya madaming matatangkad.
A college friend of mine (kumpare, as well), is a Kapampangan. He tells stories of the old days when the US military bases were still in Pampanga ....... the Americans subsidized the meals/snacks of the public elementary schools of the surrounding areas.
Since the food served came from the US, the rich nutrition likely played a part on why people there are taller than the rest of the country.
This is not limited to basketball players ..... many of the famous beauty queens/models come from the area.
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UST has long starved for a great PG to man it ........ the last good (not great) one was probably Fortuna. The last great ones were probably Bal David & Dale Singson.
Sad to say, UST will be in basketball hell for a looong time - hope they get lucky with their walk-in tryouts.
Post by: krets pulpol on Dec 10, 2015 at 09:14 AM
Bihira lang ang nakakainom ng purong gatas at juice sa umaga. Iba ang PE program.
Post by: newwaveboy on Dec 10, 2015 at 09:21 AM
And they didn't object to Black during that time? MVP will get the best out there pulling anyone from his roster of companies. Same with Danding for DLSU.
The best coach is believing their players can do their jobs. It helps if they have a good set of superstars but it would be great if they can motivate and hone skills of bench players as well.
Norman Black is married to a Filipina and has long been a permanent resident here. By law, he is allowed to coach in the professional and collegiate leagues. Tim Cone falls in the same category.
If MVP chooses, he can go around the rules and just appoint Baldwin as team consultant & have him call the shots. Of course, it won't look good as whoever is the head coach will be a lame duck. ;D
Post by: newwaveboy on Dec 10, 2015 at 09:25 AM
Makes sense newwaveboy. I remember during my younger years yung mga transferee sa amin galing US na Amboys, iniiwan kami sa track, ang lakas sumipa at malakas humataw ng baseball bat. Sabi namin, iba ata ang pakain ng mga 'to. Kami malnourish hahaha
Bihira lang ang nakakainom ng purong gatas at juice sa umaga. Iba ang PE program.
Madami akong naging kaklase from the Pampanga/Tarlac areas ...... sadyang mas malalaki at malalakas sila. Hehe.
Post by: krets pulpol on Dec 10, 2015 at 09:39 AM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 10, 2015 at 06:54 PM
anyway, ive been wondering why yung magagaling na foreign players sa UAAP and NCAA bakit di nakakarating sa PBA?
Post by: newwaveboy on Dec 10, 2015 at 07:49 PM
anyway, ive been wondering why yung magagaling na foreign players sa UAAP and NCAA bakit di nakakarating sa PBA?
Simply put, only Filipinos and Fil-Foreigners (with approved documents) are allowed to enter the PBA.
Standout collegiate imports like Ekwe, Adeogun, Abdul, Mbala, etc can only play in the PBA as imports in import-laden conferences ...... of course, this is unlikely since they are up against more-skilled imports from the USA.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 10, 2015 at 08:13 PM
Simply put, only Filipinos and Fil-Foreigners (with approved documents) are allowed to enter the PBA.
Standout collegiate imports like Ekwe, Adeogun, Abdul, Mbala, etc can only play in the PBA as imports in import-laden conferences ...... of course, this is unlikely since they are up against more-skilled imports from the USA.
and yet they were able to play in the collegiate games?
Post by: newwaveboy on Dec 10, 2015 at 08:22 PM
and yet they were able to play in the collegiate games?
Hehe, tama ka brader ...... it does sound a bit strange and ironic.
Of course, they were accepted and allowed to play being student-athletes of their respective schools ....... however, it's an open secret that most were "recruited" by certain schools specifically to play ball, with bigtime "benefits" to boot.
Sana tuluyan nang mawala ang pagkakaroon nang imports sa collegiate leagues.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 10, 2015 at 09:13 PM
Hehe, tama ka brader ...... it does sound a bit strange and ironic.
Of course, they were accepted and allowed to play being student-athletes of their respective schools ....... however, it's an open secret that most were "recruited" by certain schools specifically to play ball, with bigtime "benefits" to boot.
Sana tuluyan nang mawala ang pagkakaroon nang imports sa collegiate leagues.
magandang manuod ng magagaling na player pero im sure madami ding magagaling na pinoy player na kung susuportahan eh magiging magaling din.grassroot development hindi ng player kungdi ng corruption hahahaha. on another note sana yung mga homegrown players natin sana eh mas magsipag pa para lumakas din ng husto at maging competitive.
Post by: Verbl Kint on Dec 14, 2015 at 12:18 PM
Sam Ekwe's massive success in the NCAA opened the gates for more African players in the collegiate leagues, so much so, that we actually have scouts in places like Nigeria and Cameroon.
Post by: newwaveboy on Dec 14, 2015 at 02:30 PM
There are lots of foreign students who played in the UAAP who were neither heavily recruited nor played for "benefits". One that comes to mind is Bornancin of UP and the Faith Academy players of Ateneo (Kirk Long is one). There are also quite a few in football.
Sam Ekwe's massive success in the NCAA opened the gates for more African players in the collegiate leagues, so much so, that we actually have scouts in places like Nigeria and Cameroon.
Of course bro, Bornancin & Long were of a different case as the others - everyone knows that the discussion on imports, refer mainly to those from Africa.
I agree that it was Ekwe's success who jump-started the "recruitment" of these imports.
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http://sports.inquirer.net/204525/ph-basketball-icon-caloy-loyzaga-passes-away
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