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DVD Forum => General DVD Discussion => FAQs => Topic started by: upstart on Apr 03, 2001 at 09:59 AM
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Anyone who goes to Amazon.com often already knows about this, but Warner Bros. and Columbia have been outfitting their newer DVDs with RCEs that prevent them from playing on Region-Free DVDs...has anyone here already been affected by this?
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Only minimally. I rented The Patriot DVD a few months ago and tried to play it in my machine (I own a Sony DVP-S320). I'm one of the unlucky few with Sony DVD players that can't play RCE discs. It's disappointing to shell out money to buy a multi-regioned player only to find out that Studios can come up with something like RCE to render a multi-regioned player useless.
Maybe if R3 manufacturers would put more effort in producing DVDs that would match their R1 counterparts, people like me wouldn't have to go to great lengths to order R1 DVDs.
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Hallooo upstart! There's a similar thread in the Home Theater forum that might answer your question, although it's more about which players are affected by RCE. Here's the link to the thread:
What type of DVD player do you own? (http://www.pinoydvd.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.cgi?board=hometheater&action=display&num=985410955)
On a side note: if Columbia and Warner had really wanted RCE to succeed, they should've tested it on all available DVD player brands. Instead, it backfired on them, particularly Sony/Columbia, as now nobody will want to own a Sony DVD player.
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Komikero suggested that I contact my Sony dealer to see if they can modify my player so it can play RCE discs. Unfortunately, the dealer informed me that my unit is too old to be fixed by a simple modification procedure. I can either leave my player there for more than a week so they can replace almost all of the parts or I can buy a new DVD player.
I just hope the other studio manufacturers won't adopt this RCE thing and make it an industry standard.
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phoebus,
you answered my question in one of the threads.
ganun ba? RCE? damn! which sony dealer you contacted about modifying your sony dvd player? i have a sony 345 DVD player and would like to watch my Patriot dvd. :)
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dexlab Down with RCE! ;D
However, I am hoping that if Columbia and Warner want RCE to work, they should make sure that R3 releases of their titles have the same quality in terms of features as the R1 releases.
I've seen the R3 releases of The Patriot & Charlie's Angels (Although I haven't bought them yet), and if the list of features can be believed, it's no different than the R1 release.
I just hope that this is the case for other RCE titles.
About your Sony Player, I suggest you contact the place from which you bought it. Your player is newer than mine, so you better hope that they can modify yours. Make sure that they know what RCE is, when I talked to my dealer, they thought that I just wanted my player modified so it can play discs from any regions.
You said in your other thread that you own a Pioneer DVD player. I suggest you sell your Sony player and keep the Pioneer.
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My Sony DVP-705D is codefree..and it doesn't play RCE DVDs... sold it..and bought a Pioneer DV 535 that has been "chipped". Unfortunately, I have to import the player.
Charlie's Angels and Patriot works fine now.
Anyone who goes to Amazon.com often already knows about this, but Warner Bros. and Columbia have been outfitting their newer DVDs with RCEs that prevent them from playing on Region-Free DVDs...has anyone here already been affected by this?
:( :( :( :( :( :( :(
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phlong Good for you! I'm thinking about selling my Sony player as well and replacing it with a Pioneer player (preferably DV-535).
Why do you have to import the player? I see a lot of Pioneer players being sold locally for a reasonable price.
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The player has been "chipped" so the region coding could be manually set 1 -6. The default setting was 1.
Players on the shops are only codefree just like the one I had before.
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Was the Pioneer 535K already "chipped" when you got it out of the box? Or did you have to have it manually "chipped"?
btw, what exactly does "chipped" mean? :)
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- All The Pretty Horses
- Dancer in the Dark
- Hollow Man
- The Patriot
- A Perfect Storm
- Bedazzled
- Charlie's Angels
- Se7en
- The Complete Superman Collection
Feel free to add to the list.
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pls. add Thomas The Tank Engine
The Superman dvds do not have RCE (as reported in the other forums), even if some etailers like Amazon say so.
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does anybody know if the toshiba dv515 is affected by RCE dvd's? it was originally a region 3 player i just had it modified to play other regions.
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Here's a nice piece of RCE documentation. Also mentions work arounds for the Toshiba models to cope with RCEs and lists other models that are RCE compatible.
http://www.michaeldvd.com.au/Articles/RegionalCodeEnhancement/RCE.asp
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Title Alert:
Finding Forrester is RCE.
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Anyone else besides me and gonz who owns a Raite player? This player can bypass RCE discs by manually selecting the appropriate region, through remote keypresses. Picture quality is just ok, though.
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Hi GENDEMMIT!
Do you mean the Raite's picture quality while playing RCE discs, or just the Raite's picture quality in general?
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hi!
just want 2 ask if u know someone who can convert a dvd player?
thanks! :)
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gonz,
I meant the picture quality in general. I've seen players that include some kind of video noise reduction that seems to get rid of the artifacts. Unfortunately, I don't think the Raite has that.
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GENDEMMIT -- I'll take your word for it. Frankly, I wouldn't make the Raite my main player if I could afford something better. But as a budget alternative that plays any region and many disc types, it rules!
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hi!
just want 2 ask if u know someone who can convert a dvd player?
thanks! :)
hi Ako, welcome to PinoyDVD! There are other threads in the PinoyDVD Home Theater area (http://www.pinoydvd.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.cgi?board=hometheater) that may have mention of this, just do a search. Or you could post your inquiry in this thread (http://www.pinoydvd.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.cgi?board=hometheater&action=display&num=991833668), which is, incidentally, also in need of replies. ;)
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thanks DVDgurl :)
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I read the post about the Sony DVD S300. And it got me thinking. Was BUGOY talking about the system bought in the Phil.? Or bought outside P.I.? Kasi I'm considering to buy a HT [Sony DAV S300 or panasonic HT70] pero hindi sa Pinas ha. Anyone here have an idea [recommendation]about the said systems?
Also, this might be off topic. Pero napansin ko na karamihan yata ng nabibiling DVD player sa Pinas ay puro multi region. Tama ba ang observation ko?
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barrid -- tama ka, 'pre. Usually kapag bumili ka ng DVD player dito, modified na siya to play discs of any region. Bihira lang yung region-locked, kagaya ng aking iMac DV.
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Hi GONZ,
Thanks for confirming about my observation.
Just for curiousity, mayroon ba sa inyong nag experiment na mag saksak ng R3 disc sa legit R1 player? At kung anong nangyari. Naisip ko lang kasi na baka sa R1 disc lang mahigpit na ipinatutupad ang Regional coding at hindi sa R3.Tulad na lang sa nabasa ko sa Tagalog DVD na R3disc pero nagamit sa R1 player. Maaring exception yun. Pero anong malay natin kung ang mga manufacturer ng R3 disc ay hindi gumagamit ng RC. Isa pa, paano nalalaman kung ano ang RC ng disc kung nakasaksak sa multi regional player? Curious lang talaga ako.
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Just for curiousity, mayroon ba sa inyong nag experiment na mag saksak ng R3 disc sa legit R1 player? At kung anong nangyari. Naisip ko lang kasi na baka sa R1 disc lang mahigpit na ipinatutupad ang Regional coding at hindi sa R3.Tulad na lang sa nabasa ko sa Tagalog DVD na R3disc pero nagamit sa R1 player. Maaring exception yun. Pero anong malay natin kung ang mga manufacturer ng R3 disc ay hindi gumagamit ng RC. Isa pa, paano nalalaman kung ano ang RC ng disc kung nakasaksak sa multi regional player? Curious lang talaga ako.
I happen to surf into a US DVD rental site that offers R3 and R2 disks for rent. To complement this line, they also rents out multi-region and region specific players. Therefore, I believe that players available in the US are also region locked. A typical US DVD afficionado would not have a need for multi-region players since majority of the releases are released in R1 with a very few and specific exceptions like Citizen Kane and Dune (extended version) which as of now is yet to be released in R1.
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Just for curiousity, mayroon ba sa inyong nag experiment na mag saksak ng R3 disc sa legit R1 player? At kung anong nangyari.
Yup, I tried to insert several R3s (The Matrix, X-Files the Movie) into my R1-only iMac DV. Each time I would get a message asking me if I would like to switch the region setting on my DVD-ROM drive from R1 to R3. On most DVD-ROM drives, you only get the chance to switch regions 5 times. After that, the last region in which you were set will become permanent (set in the drive's ROM unless it is reset, which can only be done by the manufacturer).
I don't have an R1 set-top player, but I assume inserting an R3 disc will produce no effect; it won't play. But like you said, malay natin? ;)
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ang sabi nila if you put in a wrong disk in a region-locked player the screen would display a map of the world with the corresponding region assignments
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any idea about my sony dvd model dvp-k350?
sony philippines told me that it can play multi region
and rce disk. m just not so sure if it could.
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Rewind has updated their list of confirmed titles with RCE:
6th Day (The)
All The Pretty Horses
Brothers (The)
Charlie's Angels
Fail Safe* (*awaiting confirmation)
Finding Forester
Joe Dirt
Hollow Man
Knight's Tale (A)
Patriot (The)
Saving Silverman
Snatch
South Park : Chefs Experience
South Park : Xmas in South Park
Thomas Tank & Magic Railroad
Tomcats
Urban Legend Final Cut
Hope this helps.
Add to the list:
Final Fantasy
The Animal* (*awaiting confirmation)
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Rewind has updated their list of confirmed titles with RCE:
6th Day (The)
All The Pretty Horses
Brothers (The)
Charlie's Angels
Fail Safe* (*awaiting confirmation)
Finding Forester
Joe Dirt
Hollow Man
Knight's Tale (A)
Patriot (The)
Saving Silverman
Snatch
South Park : Chefs Experience
South Park : Xmas in South Park
Thomas Tank & Magic Railroad
Tomcats
Urban Legend Final Cut
Hope this helps.
I've tried Charlie's Angels,6th Day, Hollow Man,and Snatch with my Panasonic A300 and Konzert DVD.
The Panasonic A300 was unable to access the Deleted scenes of SNATCH. :P
All the above mentioned titles that I've viewed played without a hitch with the KONZERT DVD.(shifted players when the Snatch DVD deleted scenes portion refused to play with the Panasonic) ;D
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DVDTalk RCE Info:
Regional Coding Enhancement (http://www.dvdtalk.com/rce.html)
I posted the above link so I can close the other RCE Thread.
;)
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Final Fantasy has been confirmed to have RCE. Be advised!
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hi, i'm planning to buy r1 dvd (no r2 and r3 versions daw) but i'm not sure if it can be played in our player (pioneer dv k301c). i haven't watch any dvd from our player. please help. thanks ???
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Hi faye!
Your player doesn't seem to be listed in tested DVD players that can play Regional Coding Enhanced DVDs, though just because it isn't listed doesn't mean it won't work. There are lots of backdoors to get through the RCE stonewall. Better yet, that player may not have been tested.
Not all Region 1 DVDs have RCE. As long as the DVD you are planning on buying has no RCE, then it should be safe. Non-RCE DVDs can play on any multi-region or regionless DVD players. I take it that your DVD player is one them since you infer that you can play Region 1 and Region 3 DVDs.
Anyway, for more information on the DVDs and DVD players that are affected by RCE, head on over to the site posted by Phobos above. Good luck!
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hi, i'm planning to buy r1 dvd (no r2 and r3 versions daw) but i'm not sure if it can be played in our player (pioneer dv k301c). i haven't watch any dvd from our player. please help. thanks ???
Welcome to PinoyDVD!
Before anything, what is the title of the R1 DVD that you're keen to buy?
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Thanks for reporting that Final Fantasy has RCE, multi. :) Also new to the list of RCE titles is The Animal - although this still has to be confirmed.
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Since R1 of FF has RCE, just get the R3 and I think its the same and a lot cheaper
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Since R1 of FF has RCE, just get the R3 and I think its the same and a lot cheaper
If it's true that the R3 Final Fantasy costs P999, then my R1 copy cost the equivalent of P968.49, so it would only be "a lot cheaper" sans shipping costs.
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I think if it will be sold in Manila the price will almost double.
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Final Fantasy has been confirmed to have RCE. Be advised!
My Antiquated Panasonic A300 was able to bypass the RCE of Final Fantasy R1, although this unit failed to bypass the Snatch R1(special features).
For info. ;)
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;D ;D Hey Mr. MultipleAngels,
so if my player is listed in the tested players and passed...does this mean that if i have my player hacked...it can still play R1 DVDs with RCE? medyo lito lang ako ng konti....!!! Thanks!! ;D ;D
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I was in Glorietta last Saturday, and I overheard 2 employees of either Pioneer or Philips talking how the DVD GLADIATOR R3 had RCE and reverted back the DVD they modified to become Region free.
This is my first time to hear a Region 3 DVD, actually having RCE and reconverting the hack, any other experiences here?
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Some discs from Fox, Buena Vista/Touchstone/Miramax, MGM/Universal, Polygram, and Columbia TriStar contain program code that checks for the proper region setting in the player. In late 2000, Warner Bros. began using the same active region code checking that other studios had been using for over a year. They called it "region code enhancement" (RCE, also known as REA), and it received much publicity. RCE was first added to discs such as The Patriot and Charlie's Angels. "Smart discs" with active region checking won't play on code-free players that are set for all regions (FFh), but they can be played on manual code-switchable players that allow you to change the region using the remote control. They may not work on auto-switching players that recognize and match the disc region. (It depends on the default region setting of the player. An RCE disc has all its region flags set so that the player doesn't know which one to switch to, then it queries the player for the region setting and aborts if it's the wrong one. A default player setting of region 1 will fool RCE discs from region 1. Playing a region 1 disc for a few seconds will set most auto-switching players to region 1 and allow them to play an RCE disc.) When an RCE disc detects the wrong region or an all-region player, it will usually put up a message saying that the player may have been altered and that the disc is not compatible with the player
-taken from Jim Taylor's Official DVD FAQ
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;D ;D Hey Mr. MultipleAngels,
so if my player is listed in the tested players and passed...does this mean that if i have my player hacked...it can still play R1 DVDs with RCE? medyo lito lang ako ng konti....!!! Thanks!! ;D ;D
Hi Morph! Sorry for the late reply...
I'm not so sure about that. As far as I know, there's currently no way to hack the RCE out of the current crop of DVD players... You can try the RCE FAQ at DVD Talk, I'm sure it'll be much more helpful... Try the link here (http://www.dvdtalk.com/rce.html)
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;D ;D Hey MultipleAngles
No problem! Thanks for the tip! ;D ;D
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'Rented 'Ghosts of Mars' last night :( and again this screen of message and map appeared :'(.
That's the third time >:(, after '6th Day' and 'Final Fantasy'.
I guess, I (either) have to look for a way to crack this RCE or sell my DVP-S305 and get a(n) RCE DVD player.
Why the @#$% can't they just make it code-free?! >:( Like VHS and LD?! ;D
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can my DV-533 pioneer play RCE dvds?????
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hi gonz,
sorry for the thread duplication.
hi to all,
anyone who owns a se7en R1 dvd, is it RCE encoded? I'm planning to buy a copy but I'm
not sure if it would run on my sony dvp-ns300 dvd player...
thanks. :)
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hi gonz,
sorry for the thread duplication.
No problem. :)
Now which kind soul is going to give their expert advice re da_patriot's query? Bilisan ninyo! :)
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da_patriot
i own the Seven Special Edition R1 2disc set and it plays fine in my player which incidentally does not play RCE discs. So i guess you can order away and enjoy.
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can my DV-533 pioneer play RCE dvds?????
kyle,
Kung multi region yang player mo eh no problemo yan sa mga RCE disc. Kung di pa muti-region yan me kontak ako sa pioneer na tech na nagpapamulti region ng mga R3 na player. kaso wala na raw magagawa sa R1 kong Pioneer na maging multiregion. :'(
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thanks downtown for the info! :)
and also to you gonz for the endorsement! :)
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Kung multi region yang player mo eh no problemo yan sa mga RCE disc.
No offense Rak-Rak, pero hindi tama iyang sinabi mo. Linawin natin: RCE is an enhanced form of regional coding. It is designed to defeat multi-region players so that they cannot bypass regional coding. There are quite a few multi-region players that cannot play RCE discs. So kyle618's question is valid. Not all multi-region players can play RCE discs.
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New R1 titles with RCE: America's Sweethearts , Ghosts of Mars, A Knight's Tale.
Now confirmed to have RCE : The Animal and The 6th Day
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New R1 titles with RCE: America's Sweethearts , Ghosts of Mars, A Knight's Tale.
Now confirmed to have RCE : The Animal and The 6th Day
I have seen the R1 of American Sweethearts,The Animal and the 6th Day.
My Panasonic A300,Konzert,Amoisonic and recently hacked to multiregion Apex was able to play the above DVD's, so I think(w/ the exception of the Sony mentioned above)it's safe to procure this DVD's. ;)
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Guys, I think we (owners of multi-region DVD players affected by RCE) really need to find a way to crack/get around this. That's why we bought region-free players so we can watch DVDs regardless of their region code, right?
Btw, in Page 3 of this topic, Phobos posted a good link re. RCE (and confirmed titles).
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Want to buy R1 discs but i'm afraid they may not play on my player because of RCE my player's a philips 711 any thoughts would really appreciate it
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Want to buy R1 discs but i'm afraid they may not play on my player because of RCE my player's a philips 711 any thoughts would really appreciate it
Hey dracula
Try mo munang mag-rent ng movies with RCE. Mine is Philips 732K and i'm not experiencing any problem with RCE. I also asked Philps Support before, they said that the worst an RCE-encoded can do to our (Philips) player is to revert back the player to it's original region (which is R3). Well, of course that is aside from not being able to watch the movie. :) Should that happen, they can modify the player to be region-free again, am just not sure if it's for free ;D Maybe if it's still within warranty period.
Cheers!!!
Compaq
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Rewind has updated their list of confirmed titles with RCE:
6th Day (The)
All The Pretty Horses
Brothers (The)
Charlie's Angels
Fail Safe* (*awaiting confirmation)
Finding Forester
Joe Dirt
Hollow Man
Knight's Tale (A)
Patriot (The)
Saving Silverman
Snatch
South Park : Chefs Experience
South Park : Xmas in South Park
Thomas Tank & Magic Railroad
Tomcats
Urban Legend Final Cut
Final Fantasy
The Animal
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America's Sweethearts
Ghosts of Mars
Glass House
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Query posted by rafgar in another thread:
I'm thinking of ordering the 2-disc Harry Potter DVD from Amazon. However, I've read somewhere that Warner Bros. has started to put Regional Coding Enhancement (RCE) in their Region 1 DVDs. Since Harry Potter is released by Warner Bros., would anybody know if the R1 DVD will contain RCE? Same goes with release of "Lord of the Rings" which is released by New Line.
Would it be wise to just wait for the local release of both DVDs?
Thanks!
:)
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Short answer (from Dvdtalk):
For Warner Bros titles: Initially Warner Bros had announced that they were going to be RCEing their titles but aside from South Park none of their titles are infact RCE. Here's an official update from Warner Bros:
Please note the following titles DO NOT HAVE RCE:
Best In Show
The Perfect Storm
The Pledge
Proof of Life
Superman, The Movie
Currently Warner Home Video does not implement the RCE. The only title I can confirm is South Park, which only distribute.
Thank you,
VP - Publicity, WHV
If there's new information as to whether Warner has indeed started RCEing (hehe) their dvds, please post. Current information states though that Warner does not implement RCE.
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Short answer (from Dvdtalk):
For Warner Bros titles: Initially Warner Bros had announced that they were going to be RCEing their titles but aside from South Park none of their titles are infact RCE. Here's an official update from Warner Bros:
Please note the following titles DO NOT HAVE RCE:
Best In Show
The Perfect Storm
The Pledge
Proof of Life
Superman, The Movie
Currently Warner Home Video does not implement the RCE. The only title I can confirm is South Park, which only distribute.
Thank you,
VP - Publicity, WHV
If there's new information as to whether Warner has indeed started RCEing (hehe) their dvds, please post. Current information states though that Warner does not implement RCE.
I have SOuth Park the Movie, and Volumes 4,5&6.
I have rented Volumes 1,2&3.
All played well with my Panasonic A300,Konzert,Amoisonic and Multiregion Apex 3201. ;) ;D
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How does one know if a DVD has been encoded with RCE? Meron bang nakalagay sa case o sa DVD?
Thanks!
:)
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Kung multi region yang player mo eh no problemo yan sa mga RCE disc.
Bakit sabi sa amazon na RCE encoded DVDs may not work in all multi-region players? Based on my understanding, the purpose of having RCE is that R1 DVDs will only play in R1 players.
???
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Bakit sabi sa amazon na RCE encoded DVDs may not work in all multi-region players? Based on my understanding, the purpose of having RCE is that R1 DVDs will only play in R1 players.
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Yes not all, Mine works where in fact was that I have a region 3 player converted to multi region
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When the first batch of RCE disc arrived here in the philippines eh sinubukan ko yung Patriot ni Mel Gibson na RCE Enhanced sa mga multi-region na players sa mga appliance stores, yung Sony, Philips at Onkyo na multi region ay di gumana yung Patriot. pero ang Pioneer (535K then) eh walng ka proble-problema.
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Yes not all, Mine works where in fact was that I have a region 3 player converted to multi region
With the Exception ng Generic DVD Players eh puro region 3 lang ang mga Multi-region na players, maski yung mga dinebenta sa europe.
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How does one know if a DVD has been encoded with RCE? Meron bang nakalagay sa case o sa DVD?
Thanks!
:)
My player doesn't read RCE disks. I've already tried 3 titles (6th Day, Final Fantasy, Ghosts of Mars) but can't seem to notice any difference on the case or the disk itself.
Phobos has posted a link http://www.dvdtalk.com/rce.html where you can check/verify the RCE DVD titles before you buy/rent them. Goodluck!
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would someone happen to know if the Sony DVP NS300 could play RCE enhanced dvds?
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Here's a list:
DVDTalk Regional Coding Enhancement FAQ (http://www.dvdtalk.com/rce.html)
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R1 coding is for USA and Canada only, R3 is coding for Philippines. I wonder and makes me confused, how come many people here in the forum dont know what are they talking about coz some of the people here asking about R1 using it to a player not compatible with R1 and R3 disc using it in a R1 player. There is nothing wrong with the DVD disc or the DVD players. Ang may problema ay yung mga tao na di naiintindihan yung regional coding,nasa pinas ka gagamitin mo R1 na disc sa R3 player, R1 na player gagamitin mo R3 na disc eh di may compatibility problem ka na. Bakit ka gagamit ng R1 na coding kung nasa PILIPINAS ka gamitin mo yung regional coding ng pinas w/c is R3. RCE are now implemented in the US and Canada ONLY sa pinas wala pa tayong RCE kaya hwag kayong bibili ng DVD na may RCE di yan gagana dito sa pinas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???
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seth You're posting in the wrong thread. We're talking about RCE.
This is different from Region Coding which is what you're obviously talking about. I suggest that you do your homework and learn more about this topic before posting because you'll probably embarrass yourself further.
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Anybody have a disk that has RCE he's willing to loan out just going to try it on my player to see if it can play the disk promise to take care of it and return it as soon as possible ;D
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Dracula Check out Movie Depot, She has a lot of RCE titles, some recomended ones are the following;
1) Snatch-My Panasonic failed with the deleted scenes
2) Charlie's Angels
3) Patriot
Check them out, they have their own thread at the Rental Forum, and they have discounts for PinoyDVD members. ;)
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Dracula - I have Charlie's Angels R1; you can borrow it if you want. Just send me a pm. :)
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Thanks benny mga next weekend na lang cguro kasi i'll be leaving for pangasinan on sunday one week ako there i'll send you a pm when i get back.
By the way what happens to the player if it can't play the disk wala naman effect sa multi region status nya? kasi as i remember somebody posted that local multi region players are just r3 players modified by the manufacturers so that they can play disks from any region (my players Philllips nga pala).
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Dracula Do take care with the Philips brand(especially the 2nd generation ones), a fellow member Vacummtubes posted that his Philips was reverted back to R3 by the notorius "Animal"DVD(check out the post at the Philips thread of the Sources Forum).
He has to shell out a few(Php500) pesos for the Philips people to convert it back to multiregion.
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Dracula Do take care with the Philips brand(especially the 2nd generation ones), a fellow member Vacummtubes posted that his Philips was reverted back to R3 by the notorius "Animal"DVD(check out the post at the Philips thread of the Sources Forum).
He has to shell out a few(Php500) pesos for the Philips people to convert it back to multiregion.
Thanks for the heads up
benny
won't borrow the disk takot ako baka marevert sa region 3 yung player ko and all my favorite disks are in region one :-[
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Dracula No need to fear if you have the newer models(916?I believe, the Php9,900) their firmware were reportedly RCE immune, in fact the worse that can happen is that they won't play.
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Dracula No need to fear if you have the newer models(916?I believe, the Php9,900) their firmware were reportedly RCE immune, in fact the worse that can happen is that they won't play.
Unfortunately my player is an older model i think its the 711
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i have same player unit with alfie - Panasonic A300. I rented out R1 copies of some titles confirmed with RCE but fortunately i able to viewed them all without hassle :
The Animal
Hollow Man
Knights Tale
Charlies Angel
Final Fantasy.
So far, i have'nt encountered any problem.
dicmat
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There should be a groundswell of anti-RCE consumer movements worldwide to force these greedy hollywood executives from designing their products on the assumption that all consumers steal.
Macrovision protected discs prevent consumers from making a VHS copy of their DVDs. RCE-protected diiscs prevent consumers from getting titles when they shop abroad for titles not available in their own country. What is wrong with that? That is precisely one of the thrill of going abroad - getting things not available locally!!
This is the reason why generac-DVDs players and pirated copies thrive. The better for us consumers.
I can understand RCE-protection for films that have yet to be released on DVDs. But old titles like Charlie's Angels, and the Patriot that have already been released worldwide by now, why still product RCE-protected disks? RCE should be time-limited.
This is a case of total greed and paranoia of someone eating their profits!!! What have we become. Greed has prompted hollywood to harness technology to making life difficult for us all. Much as would like to boycott them, I love their movies so much to do so.
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Who has a SAST player the one from china can that play RCE disks?
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Dracula check out the SAST thread, your question, I believe ha been answered and posted in the Part 1 SAST thread.
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:) Now, I don't really regret on buying a DVD-ROM (Pioneer). It's dirt cheap compared to standalone players. My PC is connected to my HT. On PC monitor, it's like having a progressive-scan TV (no-flicker and Pin-sharp images). My TV-out is S-Video and Composite. Planning to buy a large monitor next year. Region Killer is a program that fools the software player that the system is Hardware Region Locked so walang problema sa RCE-protection. Compared it with stand-alone player and it's better on TV. Even VCDs are finer on PowerDVD than stand-alone players.
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here's an update from http://www.dvdtalk.com/rce.html (http://www.dvdtalk.com/rce.html):
Dogtown and ZBoys
Panic Room (Superbit)
The Sweetest Thing (Rated & Unrated Versions)
you may want to subscribe to this site, keeps you updated for new rce dvds.
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Just received this message from DVD Talk:
CONFIRMED RCE: Spiderman - Enough - Mr. Deeds
As we had feared it looks like Columbia Tri-Star is now putting RCE on all their major titles. Today we unfortunately confirmed that Spiderman does infact have RCE (along with Enough and Mr. Deeds. We fully expect Men in Black II and xXx to have RCE, but we'll test both discs when we get them and let you know one way or another!
As always we'll send out an RCE update on titles as soon as they are confirmed and post an updated list on our RCE Page
Thanks to all of you who help us keep the DVD Talk RCE Page up to date.
To those who have R1 copies of the above titles, totoo nga bang may RCE na ang mga ito?
rafgar
:o
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i watched enough the other day (borrowed fr aca)
wala namang problema playing it sa pioneer dvd ko...
its region 1... :)
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thats good to hear that it played on your pioneer. what model are you using? i also ordered an r1 copy of spiderman. sayang if it doesn't play on my unit
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I was wondering if anyone could help me.
I own a sony dvd player (region 1) and am planning to have it modified into a multi-region player. It really becomes burdensome to always buy DVDs in the US (which is more expensive). :'(
I hope you guys can let me know where and roughly how much it would cost me to do this.
Thanks in advance! :D
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;D ;D ;D
cbs
Welcome to PinoyDVD!
You can check out these folder Sources (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=9)
Maraming nakapost na inquiries dun regarding conversion to multiregion.
or if you like you can go to VCDhelp.com and check if they have the DVD h*ck for the model of your sony DVD player.
hope this helps.
good luck. ;)
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Ghost of Mars R1 RCE works fine on my new Sony DVP-NS905 (codefree) player code "2" since I bought here in Switzerland.
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how about players like Pensonic, Promac and others Can it play DVDs with RCE?
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Thanks Morpheous!
I did check the links you provided and I am more enlightened now! I really appreciate your help!
-CBS
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Just received this from DVD talk:
CONFIRMED RCE: Men In Black II
Columbia Tri-Star continues to put RCE on all their major titles. We've received MANY reports that Men In Black II does infact have RCE. Although we don't know for sure yet, we fully expect xXx to have RCE and possibly Stuart Little 2, we'll test both discs when we get them and let you know one way or another!
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any idea whether RCE titles such as spider-man R1 could be played in SONY DVD players bought here in philippines? at present i dont have any RCE titles.
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bro comecum,
u said ur player is an R2 coded but it played R1 RCE,
my players are sony dvp-ns700v & ns305, bought here in saudi (also included in region 2). both of which are proven to play R1s but yet to test it with R1/RCE...
i played the R1 Matrix and was able to access the special features (on both players).
i just hope i have the same luck as yours.... ::)
(http://www.dvdtalk.com/images/homermulti.jpg)
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bump for new members
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DVD CONVERSION!
I called up Pioneer Service Ctr in Alabang. They referred a guy named Mike Hernandez. He's the one modifying their Pinoeer DVD's. Blims in Glorietta said the same thing, a certain Mike Hernandez converts DVD players to make them code free. For more info, ask Blims or Pioneer how to contact Mr. Hernandez. He does home service daw 8)
For those who want to buy new players, I suggest find RCE discs, and bring them with yo when you buy your DVD player so you can test if the player plays RCE discs 8)
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any idea whether RCE titles such as spider-man R1 could be played in SONY DVD players bought here in philippines? at present i dont have any RCE titles.
My brod's spiderman r1 played in my sony dvd player. Mine is Sony S345. ;D
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From DVDtalk.com:
Q: Which players pass the RCE Test and can play RCE DVDs?
A: Here's a list:
Accoustic Solutions DVD 551
Afreey LD2060
Arcam DV-88
Bush 2004
Denon 2000
Denon 2500
Denon 3000
Denon 3700
Denon 5000
Digitron DVS360
Encore DV450
Grunding GDV210A
Hitachi DV-K2
JVC XV-S500/502
JVC 501
JVC 505
JVC 511
JVC 515
JVC 521
JVC 522
JVC 523
JVC 555
JVC 557
JVC 701
JVC 721
JVC 723
JVC K503
JVC TH-A10R
Kenwood 9010
LG 3200
LG 3350
Malata DVP-520 Marantz 890
Nakamichi 10
Neotek DV3000
Neotek DV3500
Panasonic 130
Panasonic 150
Panasonic 160
Panasonic 350
Panasonic 360
Panasonic 560
Panasonic A7
Panasonic L-50
Panasonic LV55
Panasonic LV75
Panasonic PV55
Panasonic RV20
Panasonic RV40
Panasonic RV60
Panasonic SC-HT80
Panasonic SC-PM08
Philips 705
Philips 710
Philips 711
Philips 730
Philips 735
Philips 750
Philips 910
Philips 930
Philips 935
Philips 950
Philips 955
Philips Q50
Pioneer NS-DV77
Pioneer 302
Pioneer 414
Pioneer 505
Pioneer 515
Pioneer 525
Pioneer 530
Pioneer 535
Pioneer 606
Pioneer 626D
Pioneer 636D
Pioneer 7003
Pioneer 717
Pioneer 727
Pioneer 737
Pioneer DV-05 Elite
Pioneer DV-F07Elite
Pioneer DVL-888
Pioneer DVL-909
Pioneer DVL-91
Pioneer DVL-919E
Pioneer DVS-5
Pioneer LC10
Pioneer NS-DV1
Pioneer NS-DV55
Pioneer PDV10
Revoy 2200 R
Samsung 511
Samsung 611
Samsung 707
Samsung 709
Samsung 711
Samsung 807
Samsung 808K
Samsung 907
Samsung 909
Sharp 560H
Sharp 600
Sharp 660
Sharp 700
Sharp 760
Sharp L70
Sony 3000
Sony 315
Sony 325
Sony 335
Sony 336
Sony 525D
Sony 530D
Sony 535
Sony 536
Sony 550D
Sony 7000
Sony 705
Sony 715
Sony 725D
Sony 735
Sony 7700
Sony 9000
Sony AV6
Sony CX850D
Sony F11
Sony FX1
Sony K303
Teac 1000
Teac 1050
Thomson 3300
Thomson 3600
Toshiba 1009*
Toshiba 100E*
Toshiba 200E*
Toshiba 2109*
Toshiba 3107*
Toshiba 3109*
Toshiba SD9000*
Wharfedale M5
Yamaha 700
Yamaha 795
* with intervention they play
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if you bought a region free Pioneer DVD player locally, most probably it's RCE free too. My unit is not in the list but I was able to play the spiderman r1 version without any problem.
;) :D ;)
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i think the RCE is a big fat joke! >:(
basically its all about taste and preferences and most or us prefer R1s therefore the R1 market is more prfitable! :P
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Does anyone here know if the non-Superbit edition of Labyrinth (David Bowie/Jennifer Connelly) has RCE? ??? My American Home player is multi-region, but the service center techs said they hadn't tested the model with RCE disks. Darn Columbia/Tristar ...
EDIT (7.12.04): Good news for Labyrinth fans like me ... no RCE was found after actual testing. ;D
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(http://www.dvdtalk.com/images/rce.jpg)
I haven't seen it myself, but this is supposedly what flashes on your screen if you try playing an RCE disc on a region-free player..
Personally I think RCE is unnecessary step taken by the studios (esp. Columbia/Tristar) because it "punishes" those who patronize the real thing. I had thought in the past that they had abandoned the idea, seeing as to how futile it was, but apparently it's back with a vengeance! >:( Haven't really been affected yet though, and I'm hoping to never have to worry 'bout it. 8)
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does RCE enabled discs identify it as such on the packaging of the DVD?
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does RCE enabled discs identify it as such on the packaging of the DVD?
No, but there are titles listed here on this thread, or links to other discussions on the topic. At the moment, only Columbia-Tristar is actively promoting this feature. ;D
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Anyone who goes to Amazon.com often already knows about this, but Warner Bros. and Columbia have been outfitting their newer DVDs with RCEs that prevent them from playing on Region-Free DVDs...has anyone here already been affected by this?
If you have a dvd and want to back up it to play in your player. Try DVDFAB, it will rip and burn your dvd, then you have a all region back up.
I had troubles with the Forgotten, Resident Evil, Little Black Book and The Punisher...backuping my collection, these dvd's were able to back up
by this software. Also, if you cant back up it...try this two combination...they go hand in hand; ANYDVD AND CLONEDVD2...its a free trial ware, so
is DVDFAB.
Hope i help some of you.
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I made a strange discovery today: Columbia Tri-Star/Sony's RCE has actually changed over the past year.
I'm referring to R1 discs played on R3 (converted) players.
Head in the Clouds (release date 1/25/2005) does NOT play on a converted 1 year old Samsung player, but plays on a 4 year old Sony player.
In the Cut (release date 2/10/2004), does not play on either player.
So... RCE actually got LESS STRICT this year?
Weird. Maybe Sony's trying to make their OWN converted R3 players capable of playing RCE discs from other regions to boost their OWN player sales.
Shrewd business move! ;D
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^ on the flipside, it's Columbia/Tristar that has the most R3 discs (at least in my experience) that play on my R1-locked Sony player.. Weird nga. ???
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At the moment, only Columbia-Tristar is actively promoting this feature. ;D
I just discovered that my Princess Bride R1, an MGM title, has RCE-like encoding-- my multi-region player, a Pioneer, would not accept the DVD saying that the region settings do not match then ejects the DVD (a map similar to RCE-encoded DVD's does not appear). Apparently, one of MGM's Japanese manufacturer put in RCE-like encoding on some titles but removed it after the first-press when MGM found out. So, I guess my Princess Bride R1 is a first-press DVD from this Japanese manufacturer.
BTW, I got the player to accept the DVD after putting in a RCE-free R1 disc.