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Title: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: RitchieNolasco on Apr 21, 2005 at 04:10 PM
We all know how hot Scorpio Nights was when it comes to sex. We also know how disturbing it is to see Philip Salvador have sex with Charito Solis in Init.

Could someone please help me with the history of the Bomb Movies era starting in the 1970s? What are the best or most controversial bold movies of the 70s? Who starred, directed, etc?

Salamat.
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: RitchieNolasco on Apr 22, 2005 at 10:57 AM
Calling Noel Vera and other dedicated Pinoy film researchers: any chance you can add to this topic?
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: indie boi on Apr 22, 2005 at 11:52 AM
The first "bomba" stars were Merle Fernandez (sister of Rudy F), Stella Suarez, and Yvonne. You've also got Divina Valencia. Children who grew up in the 70's would know the ditty "divina valencia, stella suarez, nagbuburles"

I think one of the most controversial bomba films then was the movie made by Merle Fernandez where she was supposed to have walked naked in Escolta. I can't remember the title of that movie though.
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: Noel_Vera on Apr 22, 2005 at 01:02 PM
I believe that 1970's Merle film was Uhaw. Don't remember if she walked naked through Escolta, tho.
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: keating on Apr 22, 2005 at 01:06 PM
The first "bomba" stars were Merle Fernandez (sister of Rudy F), Stella Suarez, and Yvonne. You've also got Divina Valencia. Children who grew up in the 70's would know the ditty "divina valencia, stella suarez, nagbuburles"

I think one of the most controversial bomba films then was the movie made by Merle Fernandez where she was supposed to have walked naked in Escolta. I can't remember the title of that movie though.

That's UHAW indie boi. If I'll choose among the bunch of bold films during the 70's and 80's my lists are the following.

SCORPIO NIGHTS- still unmatched the Best Local Erotica in Philippine Cinema.
PRIVATE SHOW- has gritty atmosphere and powered by Jacklyn Jose's excellent performance.
BOATMAN- comes close to SCORPIO NIGHTS.
VIRGIN FOREST- three people caught in the turmoil of history when Aguinaldo was assasinated, another period epic from Peque Gallaga.
UNFAITHFUL WIFE- Ana Marie Gutierrez follow up to Peque Gallaga's SCORPIO NIGHTS.
SENSUAL- Marilou Diaz Abaya's entry to the softcore bandwagon release during the Edsa Revolution introducing the obscure Barbara Benitez.
WHITE SLAVERY- Lino Brocka's second entry to softcore bandwagon in mid 80's.

and yes Ritchie is right INIT is hot..... had a rough sailing with the censors in the 70's.
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: keating on Apr 22, 2005 at 01:15 PM
Noel will you consider Laurice Guillen's SALOME bold?  ???
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: Noel_Vera on Apr 22, 2005 at 01:56 PM
Salome had a lot of sex, but no nudity, far as I can remember. Is it a bold film? Not without nudity, i don't think...but it's very erotic.  Likewise, Init sa Magdamag had plenty of sex but no nudity. Again, I can't call it bold, but I do think it erotic.
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: patupup on Apr 22, 2005 at 02:13 PM
That's UHAW indie boi. If I'll choose among the bunch of bold films during the 70's and 80's my lists are the following.

SCORPIO NIGHTS- still unmatched the Best Local Erotica in Philippine Cinema.
PRIVATE SHOW- has gritty atmosphere and powered by Jacklyn Jose's excellent performance.
BOATMAN- comes close to SCORPIO NIGHTS.
VIRGIN FOREST- three people caught in the turmoil of history when Aguinaldo was assasinated, another period epic from Peque Gallaga.
UNFAITHFUL WIFE- Ana Marie Gutierrez follow up to Peque Gallaga's SCORPIO NIGHTS.
SENSUAL- Marilou Diaz Abaya's entry to the softcore bandwagon release during the Edsa Revolution introducing the obscure Barbara Benitez.
WHITE SLAVERY- Lino Brocka's second entry to softcore bandwagon in mid 80's.

and yes Ritchie is right INIT is hot..... had a rough sailing with the censors in the 70's.
any idea guys where i can get DVD/VCD for these classic titles? :)
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: renato on Apr 22, 2005 at 04:49 PM
Don't forget Celso ad's Virgin People, Perfumed Garden, Nympha, etc. I've only recently become  interested in his work. I even saw a favorable review of Patayin mo sa Sindak Si Barbara in The Encyclopedia of Horror Films. I'm planning to watch Burlesk Queen, Paradise Inn, Pedro Penduko, Payaso and The Peasant next.
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: keating on Apr 22, 2005 at 05:12 PM
Don't forget Celso ad's Virgin People, Perfumed Garden, Nympha, etc. I've only recently become  interested in his work. I even saw a favorable review of Patayin mo sa Sindak Si Barbara in The Encyclopedia of Horror Films. I'm planning to watch Burlesk Queen, Paradise Inn, Pedro Penduko, Payaso and The Peasant next.

speaking of PATAYIN MO SA SINDAK SI BARBARA this Celso Ad Castillo flick has been on my wish lists for so long but the availability is my problem.

To add more local erotic flicks:

ISLA- with Ma. Isabel Lopez shown also at the defunct Manila Film Center, also megged by Celso Ad Castillo.
VIRGIN PEOPLE
SNAKE SISTERS

Elwood Perez has an entry also to the softcore bandwagon with Sarsi Emmanuelle & Ma. Isabel Lopez....SILIP.  ;)
 
And who can forget Tata Esteban's ALAPAAP & HUBO SA DILIM.......... :o
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: jdv1229 on Apr 22, 2005 at 06:07 PM
bold films were really rampant in the 80's... there's Celso Ad Castillo's Lihim Ng Kalapati, Tata Esteban's Materyales Fuertes, Boots Plata's Naked Island with Al Tantay & the Softdrink Beauties. also Sarsi Emmanuelle & Rita Gomez in Bomba Queen, Stella Suarez Jr. In Bernal's Gamitin Mo Ako,  the late Stella Strada in probably the only movie where she showed great promise Puri directed by Elwood Perez.

in the 70's there were films such as Danny Cabreira's Uhaw Na Bulaklak Parts 1 & 2, Mainit Na Puso, Malamig Na Kamay with Fred Galang & Alona Alegre, Elwood Perez' Bawal: Asawa Mo, Asawa Ko & Divorce Pinoy Style to name a few...
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: Noel_Vera on Apr 23, 2005 at 07:51 AM
Not a lot has been documented on '70s bold movies, mainly because most people don't give them much respect (even comedies and action flicks get more attention). You should do a piece on what you know, Jojo...
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: RitchieNolasco on Apr 23, 2005 at 11:06 AM
That's UHAW indie boi. If I'll choose among the bunch of bold films during the 70's and 80's my lists are the following.

SCORPIO NIGHTS- still unmatched the Best Local Erotica in Philippine Cinema.
PRIVATE SHOW- has gritty atmosphere and powered by Jacklyn Jose's excellent performance.
BOATMAN- comes close to SCORPIO NIGHTS.
VIRGIN FOREST- three people caught in the turmoil of history when Aguinaldo was assasinated, another period epic from Peque Gallaga.
UNFAITHFUL WIFE- Ana Marie Gutierrez follow up to Peque Gallaga's SCORPIO NIGHTS.
SENSUAL- Marilou Diaz Abaya's entry to the softcore bandwagon release during the Edsa Revolution introducing the obscure Barbara Benitez.
WHITE SLAVERY- Lino Brocka's second entry to softcore bandwagon in mid 80's.

and yes Ritchie is right INIT is hot..... had a rough sailing with the censors in the 70's.

Damn! I can't find those titles in VCD or DVDs anywhere! I bought Scorpio Nights VCD some time ago though.

Anyone here knows where to find these movies? My most wanted at the moment is White Slavery of Lino Brocka.
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: Noel_Vera on Apr 23, 2005 at 01:31 PM
White Slavery with Sarsi Emmanuelle? It's not very good... :P
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: rse on Apr 23, 2005 at 02:15 PM
Scorpio Nights is available both on VCD and DVD.  I have it on VCD but I'm thinking of buying the DVD too.  (Is there a noticeable difference in picture quality between the VCD and DVD edition?)

Isla (Ma. Isabelle Lopez, sizzling hot body) and Burlesk Queen are available on VCD.  They are in very poor condition though, but that's better than nothing.

I also have Kirot on VCD, but it's pretty tame (but Stella Estrada is hot).  Is it cut?

Virgin Forest and Unfaithful Wife I think are available on VHS at the Regal Films website (www.regalfilms.com)
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: jdv1229 on Apr 23, 2005 at 03:56 PM
Not a lot has been documented on '70s bold movies, mainly because most people don't give them much respect (even comedies and action flicks get more attention). You should do a piece on what you know, Jojo...

it makes me sad when those films from the 70's whatever genre it maybe isn't documented at all. i do enjoy watching movies. it was such a rare treat to have seen Blue Boy, Elwood Perez' very first film. there were also sex comedies such as Mag-Ingat Kapag Biyuda Ang Umibig & Regal's first venture into film production, Kayod Sa Araw, Kayod Sa Gabi (which i fortunately own on vhs.)

maybe i should take your advice Noel and write a piece on what i know about 70's cinema... if only i could find the time.  :)
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: jdv1229 on Apr 23, 2005 at 03:58 PM
White Slavery with Sarsi Emmanuelle? It's not very good... :P

the film's only saving grace was Jaclyn Jose's performance...
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: jdv1229 on Apr 23, 2005 at 04:12 PM
when Regal ventured into film production bold films ushered from nowhere. in a way, Mother Lily's outfit took over what Lyra Ventures started in the mid-70's. Danny Cabreira the auteur behind such classics as Uhaw Na Bulaklak & Mag-Ingat Kapag Biyuda Ang Umibig and Lyra Ventures' resident director went and made movies for Regal. remember Beerhouse & Iwasan Cabaret? it was only in 1977 when two young directors Elwood Perez & Joey Gosiengfiao took over and  spearheaded the making of bold films. as much as i despise some of Mother Lily's desicions, i still believe that the movie industry owes her a debt of gratitude. even her own family ventured into film production. her husband Father Remy Monteverde was the brains behind JPM Productions and her brother Jesse Yu owned Lotus Films.
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: oggsmoggs on Apr 24, 2005 at 01:25 AM
Scorpio Nights is available both on VCD and DVD.  I have it on VCD but I'm thinking of buying the DVD too.  (Is there a noticeable difference in picture quality between the VCD and DVD edition?)

where is the DVD of Scorpio Nights available, I need to secure myself of a copy.
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: keating on Apr 24, 2005 at 11:00 AM
when Regal ventured into film production bold films ushered from nowhere. in a way, Mother Lily's outfit took over what Lyra Ventures started in the mid-70's. Danny Cabreira the auteur behind such classics as Uhaw Na Bulaklak & Mag-Ingat Kapag Biyuda Ang Umibig and Lyra Ventures' resident director went and made movies for Regal. remember Beerhouse & Iwasan Cabaret? it was only in 1977 when two young directors Elwood Perez & Joey Gosiengfiao took over and  spearheaded the making of bold films. as much as i despise some of Mother Lily's desicions, i still believe that the movie industry owes her a debt of gratitude. even her own family ventured into film production. her husband Father Remy Monteverde was the brains behind JPM Productions and her brother Jesse Yu owned Lotus Films.

Remember Jo, the "magic kamison" of Mother Lily used by many Regal Babies in their quest for stardom. It's not really all out bold but I find it sexy and daring matched with those wet look scenes.

Dina wore it in KATORSE even Snooky I think. And in launching sex nymphettes, the late Claudia Zobel comes to my mind.

Man she was hot in Mel Chionglo's SINNER or SAINT. She has depth and can act also in UHAW SA PAG-IBIG. Forget SHAME it's a crap.....!
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: Noel_Vera on Apr 24, 2005 at 12:31 PM
maybe i should take your advice Noel and write a piece on what i know about 70's cinema... if only i could find the time.  :)

You should. I was looking around, and would you believe, there are no books focusing on Lino Brocka? There's a collection of articles and essays on him, edited by Mario Hernando (who isn't a Brocka fan, anyway), but nothing book-length that analyzes his career.

It's a wide-open field. Just think, film festival programmers, critics, and students will have to look for your articles for decades to come...
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: jdv1229 on Apr 24, 2005 at 05:10 PM
Remember Jo, the "magic kamison" of Mother Lily used by many Regal Babies in their quest for stardom. It's not really all out bold but I find it sexy and daring matched with those wet look scenes.

Dina wore it in KATORSE even Snooky I think. And in launching sex nymphettes, the late Claudia Zobel comes to my mind.

Man she was hot in Mel Chionglo's SINNER or SAINT. She has depth and can act also in UHAW SA PAG-IBIG. Forget SHAME it's a crap.....!

of course i do remember Mother Lily's magic kamison. it was first worn by Alma Moreno in the film Hamog but didn't create quite a stir as when Rio Locsin wore it for Disgrasyada. it was only then that the Regal Martriarch thought it would bring luck to whoever wore it... Snooky did it too in Bata Pa Si Sabel.
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: jdv1229 on Apr 24, 2005 at 05:14 PM
You should. I was looking around, and would you believe, there are no books focusing on Lino Brocka? There's a collection of articles and essays on him, edited by Mario Hernando (who isn't a Brocka fan, anyway), but nothing book-length that analyzes his career.

It's a wide-open field. Just think, film festival programmers, critics, and students will have to look for your articles for decades to come...

thanks for the vote of confidence Noel... i was also looking for books on Lino Brocka but like you i haven't found any. i read the one by Mario Hernando and you're right it lacks insight about his career. now if only the late Hammy Sotto wrote a book about Brocka...
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: keating on Apr 24, 2005 at 06:30 PM
Sorry OT but I just finished the book on our National Artists lend to me by my officemate and I nearly fall off from my seat when I read that Ishmael Bernal's masterpiece MANILA BY NIGHT was cut 50 times by the censors during its release and not to mention all the bleeps!

What the hell was that!?  >:(
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: jdv1229 on Apr 24, 2005 at 08:44 PM
Sorry OT but I just finished the book on our National Artists lend to me by my officemate and I nearly fall off from my seat when I read that Ishmael Bernal's masterpiece MANILA BY NIGHT was cut 50 times by the censors during its release and not to mention all the bleeps!

What the hell was that!?  >:(

i remember watching City After Dark in the theaters during it's run and you could not believe the cuts that were in the movie's BCMP Exhibition Permit... it was two pages long! i remeber reading something like "All dialogue mentioning the word Manila are deleted." it was preposterous! but watching the film in it's entirety years later really gave a much deeper appreaciation of the Bernal masterpiece.
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: keating on Apr 25, 2005 at 07:52 AM
i remember watching City After Dark in the theaters during it's run and you could not believe the cuts that were in the movie's BCMP Exhibition Permit... it was two pages long! i remeber reading something like "All dialogue mentioning the word Manila are deleted." it was preposterous! but watching the film in it's entirety years later really gave a much deeper appreaciation of the Bernal masterpiece.

 Ishmael Bernal told us during its UNCUT screening at Shangrila Cinema, it was really mangled by the Marcos Regime, "buti nga daw me tinira pa" and he even narrated to us how they manage to smuggled the masterprint of the movie by going to Berlin Film Festival. You can't really understand his points of view if you'll watch it with many cuts as I saw it during its television premiere at channel 2 many years ago.

it's only now that I fully understand his vision same with you Jo. There's no graphic nudity but the profanities caused an uproar opposing Imelda Marcos beautification campaign of MANILA.
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: Noel_Vera on Apr 25, 2005 at 01:11 PM
Keating's impression is spot-on. There's nothing graphic, the soundtrack really dates it, and actually Manila then looks a lot cleaner than Manila now, but the people and their relationships have an intense nastiness and acrimony that you don't get in most lesser films. It's not the physical details, it's the attitude that makes this Manila so memorable.
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: indie boi on Apr 25, 2005 at 02:35 PM
It's not the physical details, it's the attitude that makes this Manila so memorable.

Exactly. And that's what the Censors were trying to cut -- its attitude, its atmosphere. How in hell can you physically cut that in a film? Just goes to show you how stupid the censors  and the "moral vanguards" are.
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: keating on Apr 25, 2005 at 04:44 PM
Keating's impression is spot-on. There's nothing graphic, the soundtrack really dates it, and actually Manila then looks a lot cleaner than Manila now, but the people and their relationships have an intense nastiness and acrimony that you don't get in most lesser films. It's not the physical details, it's the attitude that makes this Manila so memorable.

Thanks, Noel.

And oh, the characters in that Bernal masterpiece......the prostitute pretending to be a nurse, the blind masseuse, the drug addict, the lesbian, the homosexual, the waitresse, the taxi driver are all memorable, unforgettable and explode in this flick.

 And hey the movie was production designed by Peque Gallaga.
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: milkeemee2 on Apr 25, 2005 at 04:48 PM
Let us not forget also Robbie Tan whose Seiko Films churned out many bold movies in the 80's.  He was responsible for the success ( and eventual demise?) of Stella Strada whose sexiness, IMHO, nobody can surpass even up to this day.  I can think of Kirot, Init and Puri as the more popular Stella movies.  Anna Marie Guttierez also made her mark not only in the sizzling Skorpio Nights and Unfaithful Wife but  in the sexy dramatic movies Di Maghilom ang Sugat  and Takaw-Tukso. Takaw-Tukso remains one of my favorites because it starred  Anna Marie and the divine Jacklyn Jose and they really acted well. The bold genre produced so many hot stars who can act- Cristina Crisol, Maureen Mauricio, Ma. Isabel Lopez, Rowena Ruiz, Sarsi Emmanuel, Pepsi Paloma, and even Lala Montelibano. The bold genre was ushered by the ECP , a brainchild of  Imee Marcos.  It was also, IMO, a way to appease the masses whose discontent with the Marcos regime had been growing at an alarming speed.  I remember the movie Turuang Apoy (Eddie Garcia, Daniel  Fernando, Frtiz Ynfante, Lyka Ugarte, etc) which was shown in commercial  theaters with all the nudity  and acts of perversion  because the film is anti-communist! I also recall that  I was watching  Senswal ( Barbara Benitez, Hero Bautista, directed by : Marilou Diaz  Abaya  on the first day of EDSA 1.  When Cory assumed the presidency, all hell broke loose in the movie industry what with the very progressive Armida S. Reyna heading the MTRCB. Bold movies  were selling like hot cakes and independent producers had their heydays.  Producers of  Arrayy, Tag-Init Nagpuputik ang Langit, Tonting and His Hidden Wealth were  so happy with the profits they were getting.  But as they say, good things never last. The doom of the bold genre started with the showing of the now cult-classic  Sabik (George Estregan, Joy Sumilang, Gino Antonio), which showed penetration.  It was followed by Materiales Fuertes ( Mark Joseph, Myrna Castillo, directed by Tata Esteban) which also featured the lead stars in various stages of copulation.  So many others followed suit and the civil society roared in disapproval. And to arrest this penetration explosion, whom you gonna call? Manoling Morato.  The swashbuckling hero cut the bold movies' ugly head and veered the  movie industry away  from the road to perdition to the artistic road of helming massacre movies.
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: keating on Apr 25, 2005 at 04:59 PM
Exactly. And that's what the Censors were trying to cut -- its attitude, its atmosphere. How in hell can you physically cut that in a film? Just goes to show you how stupid the censors  and the "moral vanguards" are.

Were they the same Board of Censors during the turning point of the ECP days? When they started to show bold flicks at the ghostly Manila Film Center?
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: rear_naked_choke on Apr 25, 2005 at 06:25 PM
Story, character-development, social relevance, blah blah aside, which of these are the hottest?  >:D (and I don't necessarily mean in terms of nudity)
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: rse on Apr 26, 2005 at 03:54 AM
where is the DVD of Scorpio Nights available, I need to secure myself of a copy.

http://shop.regalfilms.com/shop/customer/product.php?productid=48458&cat=0&action=adult_ok
http://store.pilipinosuperstore.com/scorpionights1.html
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: Noel_Vera on Apr 26, 2005 at 07:17 AM
Story, character-development, social relevance, blah blah aside, which of these are the hottest?  >:D (and I don't necessarily mean in terms of nudity)

init sa magdamag
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: keating on May 01, 2005 at 04:52 PM
Story, character-development, social relevance, blah blah aside, which of these are the hottest?  >:D (and I don't necessarily mean in terms of nudity)

In terms of arousing factor and nudity, no doubt SCORPIO NIGHTS  is no. 1 on my lists. And the Ana Marie Gutierrez classic is technically well-made in terms of craftmanship and over all aspects, the production design, cinematography, music, and editing. Beware of the sanitized version of the vcd and dvd. I hope they release soon on dvd the Director's Cut of Peque Gallaga which was shown at Toronto Film Festival and at the Ayala cinema a few years back.

INIT has no nudity except for the split-second tops of the late Charito Solis but its d a m n hot, very hot......she almost eclipsed Rio Locsin who was also hot in the movie. I can't believe Lino Brocka can still infuse heat in his movies. And another plus factor is Conrado Baltazar's stunning cinematography.
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: jdv1229 on May 01, 2005 at 11:30 PM
In terms of arousing factor and nudity, no doubt SCORPIO NIGHTS  is no. 1 on my lists. And the Ana Marie Gutierrez classic is technically well-made in terms of craftmanship and over all aspects, the production design, cinematography, music, and editing. Beware of the sanitized version of the vcd and dvd. I hope they release soon on dvd the Director's Cut of Peque Gallaga which was shown at Toronto Film Festival and at the Ayala cinema a few years back.

INIT has no nudity except for the split-second tops of the late Charito Solis but its d a m n hot, very hot......she almost eclipsed Rio Locsin who was also hot in the movie. I can't believe Lino Brocka can still infuse heat in his movies. And another plus factor is Conrado Baltazar's stunning cinematography.

you're absolutely right Keating! the sanitized version of Scorpio Nights is the one available on both dvd & vcd... fortunately i still have the original vhs video tape of the movie released by Trigon in 1986. this is the complete version of the film.
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: keating on May 03, 2005 at 09:07 PM
you're absolutely right Keating! the sanitized version of Scorpio Nights is the one available on both dvd & vcd... fortunately i still have the original vhs video tape of the movie released by Trigon in 1986. this is the complete version of the film.

I still have to save my tape.....Jo. SCORPIO NIGHTS is ground breaking in the history of erotic cinema.

To think that Peque suffered from heart attack and health failure while doing/finishing the film was a total suprise and the full trailer which I saw in 1984 was great although it has no dialogue but only a classical music in the background plus the visuals.
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: jdv1229 on May 04, 2005 at 06:42 AM
I still have to save my tape.....Jo. SCORPIO NIGHTS is ground breaking in the history of erotic cinema.

To think that Peque suffered from heart attack and health failure while doing/finishing the film was a total suprise and the full trailer which I saw in 1984 was great although it has no dialogue but only a classical music in the background plus the visuals.

save your vhs tape... even Peque himself probably doesn't have a copy of the original version.
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: RMN on May 05, 2005 at 03:53 PM
You should. I was looking around, and would you believe, there are no books focusing on Lino Brocka? There's a collection of articles and essays on him, edited by Mario Hernando (who isn't a Brocka fan, anyway), but nothing book-length that analyzes his career.

It's a wide-open field. Just think, film festival programmers, critics, and students will have to look for your articles for decades to come...

A monogram on Filipino directors will be released this year...
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: llanesmark777 on May 05, 2005 at 04:05 PM
SCORPIO NIGHTS- still unmatched the Best Local Erotica in Philippine Cinema.


but the problem is there's a remake of this film. Called Summer Time(2001) A Korean version of Scorpio Nights. Almost the same.
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: keating on May 05, 2005 at 09:18 PM
but the problem is there's a remake of this film. Called Summer Time(2001) A Korean version of Scorpio Nights. Almost the same.

it borrowed mainly from Scorpio Nights dude......even the filmmaker should thank Peque for that...... :)
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: Noel_Vera on May 06, 2005 at 02:47 PM
A monogram on Filipino directors will be released this year...

Who's publishing, who wrote it, and where will it be available?
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: RMN on May 07, 2005 at 01:37 PM
Who's publishing, who wrote it, and where will it be available?

The book, which will be released this year, is being published by Danilo "Danny" Dolor and is a collaboration between Kuya Cesar and Teddy Co.
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: Noel_Vera on May 07, 2005 at 06:47 PM
Thankee. Can you tell me when it's actually out?
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: keating on May 09, 2005 at 06:01 PM
Noel, Jojo what do you think of Marilou Diaz Abaya's SENSUAL? It was made in 1985 but was only release during the Edsa Revolution even Marilou admitted that she and Charito Solis were on Edsa and not watching the movie.

The material was actually good, the coming-of-age of a barrio lass (Barbara Benitez) lusting after the hunk next door (Lito Gruet) and having a lesbian relationship. But then it was wasted due to lack of heat? The performances of the late Charito Solis & Chanda Romero were excellent though.
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: Noel_Vera on May 10, 2005 at 05:54 AM
Noel, Jojo what do you think of Marilou Diaz Abaya's SENSUAL?

was wasted due to lack of heat?

In a nutshell. I've yet to see a Diaz Abaya film that turned me on. Even a sordid situation like in Milagros, with a girl shared by three brothers and their father, she couldn't turn on any heat. That's why I much prefer Laurice Guillen--there's no excitement, no danger to Diaz-Abaya.
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: jdv1229 on May 10, 2005 at 06:35 AM
Noel, Jojo what do you think of Marilou Diaz Abaya's SENSUAL? It was made in 1985 but was only release during the Edsa Revolution even Marilou admitted that she and Charito Solis were on Edsa and not watching the movie.

The material was actually good, the coming-of-age of a barrio lass (Barbara Benitez) lusting after the hunk next door (Lito Gruet) and having a lesbian relationship. But then it was wasted due to lack of heat? The performances of the late Charito Solis & Chanda Romero were excellent though.

couldn't agree more Keating... the performances of Charito Solis and Chanda Romero were just excellent. the script by Joey Reyes leaves much to be desired. the movie was technically superior though. it was the first time that Marilou opted for the cinematographic expertise of the late great Conrado Baltazar which just proved that she could indeed work very well a different cinematographer other than her husband Manolo Abaya.
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Post by: keating on May 15, 2005 at 05:56 PM
couldn't agree more Keating... the performances of Charito Solis and Chanda Romero were just excellent. the script by Joey Reyes leaves much to be desired. the movie was technically superior though. it was the first time that Marilou opted for the cinematographic expertise of the late great Conrado Baltazar which just proved that she could indeed work very well a different cinematographer other than her husband Manolo Abaya.

Yup the material was actually wasted......though the casting was good. Marilou was already tired on this kind of stuff since she already explored the female sexuality on some of her earlier films.......BRUTAL, MORAL, KARNAL, BABY TSINA.
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Post by: Noel_Vera on May 16, 2005 at 03:22 AM
Yup the material was actually wasted......though the casting was good. Marilou was already tired on this kind of stuff since she already explored the female sexuality on some of her earlier films.......BRUTAL, MORAL, KARNAL, BABY TSINA.

She may have explored the politics and sociological aspects of female sexuality in those films (some more successful than others) but I'd say she hardly presented the psychological aspects of female sexuality with much acuracy. For that, you have to present sexuality as if you've actually experienced it.

I'd say more convincing portraits of female sexuality include Guillen's Salome and, above all, Init sa Magdamag. Even her AIDs movie (I think Dolzura Cortez, was it?) was a better sketch of female sexuality, in that Vilma Santos insisted on having a sex life even if she was infected by AIDs...
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Post by: keating on May 16, 2005 at 12:23 PM
She may have explored the politics and sociological aspects of female sexuality in those films (some more successful than others) but I'd say she hardly presented the psychological aspects of female sexuality with much acuracy. For that, you have to present sexuality as if you've actually experienced it.

I'd say more convincing portraits of female sexuality include Guillen's Salome and, above all, Init sa Magdamag. Even her AIDs movie (I think Dolzura Cortez, was it?) was a better sketch of female sexuality, in that Vilma Santos insisted on having a sex life even if she was infected by AIDs...

SALOME is top notch in exploring the female sexuality, INIT SA MAGDAMAG I still have to see it, and yes, DOLZURA CORTEZ was also megged by Guillen.....that only proves Ms. Guillen can handle hot situation of female perspective both psychological and the opposite.

OT come to think of it....among the veterans only MIKE DE LEON didn't join the softcore bandwagon.
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Post by: Noel_Vera on May 16, 2005 at 12:47 PM
Laurice was hot when she was younger...she knows about sexuality.

Mike doesn't go much into eroticism. That said, there are portions of Bilanggo sa Dilim that (what can I say, pervert that I am?) I found quite erotic, in a dominator-dominated sort of way.
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Post by: keating on May 16, 2005 at 12:51 PM
Laurice was hot when she was younger...she knows about sexuality.

Mike doesn't go much into eroticism. That said, there are portions of Bilanggo sa Dilim that (what can I say, pervert that I am?) I found quite erotic, in a dominator-dominated sort of way.

yup saw Laurice in Brocka's INIT........that leaves Marilou frigid Noel?  ;D  ;)

But in fairness to MDA.....SENSUAL has great moments in terms of technical aspects, and the location was good also.
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Post by: Noel_Vera on May 16, 2005 at 01:44 PM
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that leaves Marilou frigid Noel?

You watch Milagros, then tell me.  ;D

Marilou usually commands far larger budgets than Laurice (at least, until recently). She's good at raising money, that's what technical excellence usually means.
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Post by: keating on May 16, 2005 at 10:17 PM
You watch Milagros, then tell me.  ;D

Marilou usually commands far larger budgets than Laurice (at least, until recently). She's good at raising money, that's what technical excellence usually means.

I will man....... ;D
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Post by: diabolik on Jun 10, 2005 at 12:44 AM
some of the early bomba/bold stars that i remember ...

amy austria -still active and making movies today
ana luna of emperor films
angela perez
ana marie guttierez
cindy theresa also known as olivia

the liquor beauties
brandy ayala
karla kalua
chivas regal

for the non-drinkers
the softdrink beauties
coca nicolas
sarsi emmanuel
pepsi paloma

the famous names beauty
trina laurel
roxan recto
glenda araneta
claudia zobel

and may more...
let me dig into my memory bank...
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Post by: xage on Jun 10, 2005 at 09:40 AM
http://lukeford.com/subjects/content/world_porn.html


There is a section pertaining to Philippines

No wonder why Philippines was even mentioned in 8mm (film by  Joel Schumacher) movie about Adult Films...
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Post by: Noel_Vera on Jun 10, 2005 at 12:48 PM
http://lukeford.com/subjects/content/world_porn.html

No wonder why Philippines was even mentioned in 8mm (film by  Joel Schumacher) movie about Adult Films...

Schumacher's movie is crap. There ain't no such creature as a snuff flick; it's all faked.
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Post by: jdv1229 on Jun 14, 2005 at 11:01 AM
Yup the material was actually wasted......though the casting was good. Marilou was already tired on this kind of stuff since she already explored the female sexuality on some of her earlier films.......BRUTAL, MORAL, KARNAL, BABY TSINA.

you forgot Macho Gigolo...  ;D
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Post by: keating on Jun 14, 2005 at 09:21 PM
You watch Milagros, then tell me.  ;D

Marilou usually commands far larger budgets than Laurice (at least, until recently). She's good at raising money, that's what technical excellence usually means.

MILAGROS was not a bold movie. Very depressing, very quiet but Sharmaine Arnaiz is wonderful here. How could MDA infuse heat on that movie, Noel, she was actually mourning for the loss of Ishmael Bernal during that time.

It was her eulogy for Bernal.
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Post by: Noel_Vera on Jun 15, 2005 at 10:31 AM
MILAGROS was not a bold movie. Very depressing, very quiet but Sharmaine Arnaiz is wonderful here. How could MDA infuse heat on that movie, Noel, she was actually mourning for the loss of Ishmael Bernal during that time.

Refuse to believe it's mourning that stopped her--there's no heat in any of her films. I thought Sharmain sleepwalked through the film, myself.
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Post by: keating on Jun 15, 2005 at 12:56 PM
I know man....even the sexy scenes of Sharmaine was very dull. But even in BRUTAL, the orgy scene has no heat, Noel?  ???
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Post by: Noel_Vera on Jun 15, 2005 at 01:44 PM
I know man....even the sexy scenes of Sharmaine was very dull. But even in BRUTAL, the orgy scene has no heat, Noel?  ???

The only heat I felt was Charo Santos scenting a good story. Marilou's more turned on by a career opportunity than by anything else.
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Post by: keating on Feb 05, 2006 at 10:53 PM
Urian's Best Pic TAKAW TUKSO is now on my watch list. And um......Elwood Perez' SILIP.  ;)
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Post by: Noel_Vera on Feb 06, 2006 at 09:57 AM
Takaw Tukso is an Ingmar Bergman  chamber film in a Philippine setting. Plus the sex is hot.
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Post by: keating on Feb 06, 2006 at 12:25 PM
Noel, have you seen TAKAW TUKSO recently? Among the local erotica made during the height of the ECP craze, only a few were good (Scorpio Nights, Boatman, Isla & Private Show).
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Post by: Noel_Vera on Feb 07, 2006 at 12:23 PM
Private Show was okay; really best for Jaclyn Jose. I saw Takwa Tukso some years ago, on a really bad 16 mm print.
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Post by: keating on Feb 07, 2006 at 12:28 PM
Jaclyn Jose always lights up the screen whether playing a plain housewife, sex worker and other conventional roles sometimes with no dialogue at all.

Was that the mangled print that you saw, Noel? SOFIA should rescue it soon.
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Post by: Noel_Vera on Feb 07, 2006 at 02:11 PM
Mangled would be too nice a word. It looked as if Jose, Guttierrez and company had made love on top of it for hours.
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Post by: keating on Feb 08, 2006 at 02:23 PM
I caught some snipettes of it.......but I skipped the hot ones. Holy Lord, I was able to resist because I have to wake up at 5 a.m.  ;D

The ending where Jaclyn Jose & Ana Marie Gutierrez met looks like from Bernal's IKAW AY AKIN, brilliant!

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Post by: Noel_Vera on Feb 09, 2006 at 04:34 AM
So where did you see Takaw Tukso, keats? Did they drag that 16 mm print out from whatever bodega they're hiding it in?
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Post by: keating on Feb 09, 2006 at 08:34 AM
Noel, sent you pm. He is such a manna from heaven!  ;)

I believe its the uncut one, the copy is so d a m n MINT! can't wait to see it this weekend. The best time to relieve my stress.
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Post by: RMN on Feb 09, 2006 at 02:59 PM
We screened the full version of Takaw Tukso July 9 of last year, the tape courtesy of William Pascual . Even had Bing Lao as guest speaker.
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Post by: jdv1229 on Feb 12, 2006 at 12:18 PM
as much as i loved Takaw Tukso i can't help but mention the little seen follow up 'Di Maghilom Ang Sugat. the film which followed the journey of a young man Gino Antonio who just lost his wife Cristina Crisol (in probably the best performance of her entire career) in search of himself and finding love this time with a more aggressive woman Anna Marie Gutierrez. the movie maybe too straightforward and took a totally different path in its storytelling unlike Takaw Tukso but screenwriter Armando Lao & director William Pascual manages to convey their message effectively. it's like David Lynch after a series of weird films like Blue Velvet, Wild At Heart & Twin Peaks took a detour and directed The Straight Story. going back to 'Di Maghilom, the film boasts of strong performances. Gino Antonio's melancholic portrayal of the husband sheds a different light into the kind of acting he showed in Chito Rono's Private Show & Takaw Tukso. he was quiet in most of the movie, detached, a mere observer. the hurt in his eyes continues to build up until the final confrontation scene with Anna Marie where he let go of all his emotions. Gutierrez on the other hand, overshadowed by Jaclyn Jose in Takaw Tukso is given the rare chance to redeem herself. here she exudes confidence. the stronger of the two main characters you would feel for her when she gets rejected by Gino but never feel sorry because she's in complete control of herself. i enjoyed this film more than Takaw for its simplicity. unfortunately, in as much as it got rave reviews when it was shown. it never won any awards. this film is worth another look just to show that this kind of filmmaking is what's lacking in movies nowadays.
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Post by: keating on Feb 12, 2006 at 12:45 PM
The bold stars of the 80's have more depth in terms of performance, than the bombshells of today. They are mostly senseless.

They will just go to events and premiere screenings with no underwear at all.  ;D
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Post by: jdv1229 on Feb 12, 2006 at 01:16 PM
most of the bold stars of the 80's had talent. most of Rey de la Cruz' discoveries made names for themselves & most of them appeared in critically acclaimed movies. Rio Locsin, Sarsi Emmanuelle & Lala Montelibano come to mind.
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Post by: keating on Feb 12, 2006 at 01:24 PM
Rio Locsin should be given more meaty roles that she can sink her teeth into. She's so talented!
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Post by: jdv1229 on Feb 12, 2006 at 02:21 PM
i couldn't agree more... nasasayang siya sa mga soap opera playing thankless roles which is insulting to her incredible talent as an actress.
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Post by: Noel_Vera on Feb 12, 2006 at 02:27 PM
I remember her with Vilma Santos in Haplos. Actually, I remember her; I have to remind myself Vilma Santos was also in Haplos. Butch Perez always says it's hard to compete with a ghost, but I disagree; Locsin just overpowered Santos.
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Post by: keating on Feb 12, 2006 at 02:30 PM
Locsin was great in HAPLOS, she stood out also in Bernals' ensemble flick MANILA BY NIGHT as the blind masseuse and she's so hot in Brocka's INIT.
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Post by: Noel_Vera on Feb 13, 2006 at 03:22 AM
She's hot in Bernal's Salawahan
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Post by: jdv1229 on Feb 13, 2006 at 08:24 AM
I remember her with Vilma Santos in Haplos. Actually, I remember her; I have to remind myself Vilma Santos was also in Haplos. Butch Perez always says it's hard to compete with a ghost, but I disagree; Locsin just overpowered Santos.


Haplos was Rio Locsin's movie. it was one of her most memorable screen portrayals. she also displayed her brilliance in Danny Zialcita's Tinimbang Ang Langit & Laurice Guillen's Kapag Puso'y Sinugatan to name a few. not to be forgotten was her very first ghost role in an episode of Gabi Ng Lagim Ngayon where she played a young girl whose baby was aborted by Charito Solis.
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Post by: jerix on Feb 15, 2006 at 10:40 AM
Just curious about the Bomba Movies of the 70's that made Merle Fernandez, etc. popular, were there actual "pene" scenes in these movies?
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Post by: jdv1229 on Feb 15, 2006 at 08:04 PM
Just curious about the Bomba Movies of the 70's that made Merle Fernandez, etc. popular, were there actual "pene" scenes in these movies?

there wasn't any actual pene scenes in those films but they were too risque at the time... full frontal nudity, simulated sex scenes & the like.
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Post by: keating on Feb 15, 2006 at 08:08 PM
Was it Celso Ad Castillo who started the trend in the early 70's, Jo? I still want to see his skin flicks during the ECP rage.......ISLA, SNAKE SISTERS and VIRGIN PEOPLE.  ;)
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Post by: jdv1229 on Feb 15, 2006 at 08:58 PM
Was it Celso Ad Castillo who started the trend in the early 70's, Jo? I still want to see his skin flicks during the ECP rage.......ISLA, SNAKE SISTERS and VIRGIN PEOPLE.  ;)

lots of directors started the bomba trend which in the mid 70's was renamed bold with films like Mga Uhaw Na Bulaklak & Malamig Na Puso, Mainit Na Kamay. Celso's first foray into boldness was Nympha followed by Pinakamagandang Hayop, but directros such as Elwood perez, Danny Cabreira & Joey Gosiengfiao started making these so called bold films like Mag Ingat Kapag Biyuda Ang Umibig, Picnic among others.
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Post by: keating on Feb 15, 2006 at 09:06 PM
Thanks for the info, Jo. Was it Elwood or Joey who made HOT PANDESAL? The one that stars the late Tet Antiquera.  ;D
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Post by: jerix on Feb 16, 2006 at 08:07 AM
there wasn't any actual pene scenes in those films but they were too risque at the time... full frontal nudity, simulates sex scenes & the like.

I was then a young boy listening to stories of older people about these flicks -- maybe if any of these films are still available or have been converted or transferred into VCD or DVD i think viewing these for the first time will ultimately answer and probably put to an end to the question i have during those times. But is there really a way to get hold of these movoes in the first place?  ::)
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Post by: jdv1229 on Feb 16, 2006 at 10:23 AM
Thanks for the info, Jo. Was it Elwood or Joey who made HOT PANDESAL? The one that stars the late Tet Antiquera.  ;D

it was Cloyd Robinson who directed Miss Extra Espesyal with Tet Antiquiera
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Post by: jdv1229 on Feb 16, 2006 at 10:25 AM
I was then a young boy listening to stories of older people about these flicks -- maybe if any of these films are still available or have been converted or transferred into VCD or DVD i think viewing these for the first time will ultimately answer and probably put to an end to the question i have during those times. But is there really a way to get hold of these movoes in the first place?  ::)

unfortunately most of these films are not available anymore... i remember in the 80's Trigon Home Video released Celso Ad Castillo's Nympha on video. most of the other films during this era such as Batuta Ni Dracula, Saging Ni Pacing & Ang Bukid Ay Basa are not available in any format.
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Post by: jerix on Feb 16, 2006 at 10:48 AM
unfortunately most of these films are not available anymore... i remember in the 80's Trigon Home Video released Celso Ad Castillo's Nympha on video. most of the other films during this era such as Batuta Ni Dracula, Saging Ni Pacing & Ang Bukid Ay Basa are not available in any format.

;D Yeah these are the titles i still clearly remember and still are very controversial to me, hence the desire to watch, but now another case that we all say -- "SAYANG!!"  ::)
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Post by: keating on Feb 16, 2006 at 02:18 PM
There was a movie during Morato's time that has a double meaning but the censor's chief didn't object. It was the most disgusting title that I ever heard of.......DILIGIN MO NG SUKA ANG UHAW NA LUMPIA.   :o
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Post by: pinoymovies on Feb 16, 2006 at 02:49 PM
Diligin mo ng Hamog ang Uhaw na Lupa was the title of a Joseph Estrada and Gloria Diaz movie from the late '70's
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Post by: jdv1229 on Feb 16, 2006 at 07:49 PM
;D Yeah these are the titles i still clearly remember and still are very controversial to me, hence the desire to watch, but now another case that we all say -- "SAYANG!!"  ::)

these movies may not be the greatest Filipino films ever made but is still a huge part of our cinematic history hence they should all be archived for them to be watched by a new generation of film enthusiasts.
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Post by: jdv1229 on Feb 16, 2006 at 07:50 PM
There was a movie during Morato's time that has a double meaning but the censor's chief didn't object. It was the most disgusting title that I ever heard of.......DILIGIN MO NG SUKA ANG UHAW NA LUMPIA.   :o

this film starred Chiquito... remember Nagalit Ang Patay Sa Haba Ng Lamay?
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Post by: keating on Feb 16, 2006 at 09:23 PM
unfortunately most of these films are not available anymore... i remember in the 80's Trigon Home Video released Celso Ad Castillo's Nympha on video. most of the other films during this era such as Batuta Ni Dracula, Saging Ni Pacing & Ang Bukid Ay Basa are not available in any format.

Was Castillo's NYMPHA at par with Gosiengfiao's remake with Alma Moreno? Both deals with uncontrollable desires thru  points of view of a woman.
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Post by: killer_blow on Feb 17, 2006 at 10:00 AM
Two movies come in my mind: Sabik which featured mainstream actor George Estregan doing hard porn (unprotected, mind you) and Macho Dancer which I believe 9correct me if I'm wrong) was the first pinoy film to show non-explicit gay sex scenes.
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Post by: jdv1229 on Feb 17, 2006 at 11:27 AM
Was Castillo's NYMPHA at par with Gosiengfiao's remake with Alma Moreno? Both deals with uncontrollable desires thru  points of view of a woman.

Gosiengfiao's Nympha is not a remake of Celso Ad Castillo's noir film. they're two different stories. both movies deal with a woman's uncontrollable desire but Castillo's was a far better film. it's a serious exploration of sexuality while Gosingfiao's was pure camp.
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Post by: jdv1229 on Feb 17, 2006 at 11:37 AM
Two movies come in my mind: Sabik which featured mainstream actor George Estregan doing hard porn (unprotected, mind you) and Macho Dancer which I believe 9correct me if I'm wrong) was the first pinoy film to show non-explicit gay sex scenes.

Sabik was just one more than a handful of pene movies that came out during the mid 80's. George Estregan's first foray into these type of movies was Hindi Mapigil Ang Init with Myra Manibog.

Macho Dancer wasn't the first Filipino film to feature non explicit gay sex scenes (although i think they were quite graphic at the time) Brocka's Tubog Sa Ginto had gay sex scenes that would rival movies like Sibak or even Burlesk King...
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Post by: Noel_Vera on Feb 18, 2006 at 03:57 AM
Macho Dancer--at least the print I saw--had this scene where a row of the dancers were playing with themselves onstage. I don't know if this is in any present copy of the film...
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Post by: jdv1229 on Feb 18, 2006 at 07:07 AM
Macho Dancer--at least the print I saw--had this scene where a row of the dancers were playing with themselves onstage. I don't know if this is in any present copy of the film...

the scene you mentioned Noel is in the smuggled print now part of MOMA's permanent collection but is also the same print used in the dvd released by Strand & also in a pristine Director's Masterpiece edition available from Viva Video.
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Post by: keating on Feb 18, 2006 at 01:55 PM
I just saw Brocka's TUBOG SA GINTO last night. Eddie Garcia should be commended for taking a risk for that kind of role! Man, sure its tame by today's standard but I considered that a breakthrough in his entire filmography.

Did it suffer from rough sailing with the censors?
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Post by: Noel_Vera on Feb 18, 2006 at 02:54 PM
Eddie's dressed up in several films. Much prefer this to Brokeback Mountain.
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Post by: keating on Feb 18, 2006 at 05:36 PM
Eddie Garcia was also excellent in gender-bending comic roles. Was TUBOG the first Filipino film that deals with homosexuality, Noel?

It was unusual also for Lea Prods. to produce such kind of film.
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Post by: jdv1229 on Feb 18, 2006 at 11:54 PM
it's kinda weird when at the end credits of Tubog Sa Ginto it said from LEA Productions A Proud Tradition For Wholesome Entertainment! there's nothing wholesome about Tubog...  ;)
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Post by: Noel_Vera on Feb 19, 2006 at 02:14 AM
We were dealing with homosexuality as far back as Jack en Jill, in 1954.
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Post by: keating on Feb 20, 2006 at 06:46 PM
What I mean is straight drama, not comedy.
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Post by: Noel_Vera on Feb 21, 2006 at 05:48 AM
Shouldn't be a difference.
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Post by: killer_blow on Feb 21, 2006 at 08:20 AM
Macho Dancer--at least the print I saw--had this scene where a row of the dancers were playing with themselves onstage. I don't know if this is in any present copy of the film...
I specifically recall that scene when I watched it in the theater. I've been told that several days after, that scene was omitted.
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Post by: keating on Feb 22, 2006 at 05:18 PM
it's kinda weird when at the end credits of Tubog Sa Ginto it said from LEA Productions A Proud Tradition For Wholesome Entertainment! there's nothing wholesome about Tubog...  ;)

My mom will surely freak out when she see TUBOG. But she's cool sometimes, she sat with me from beginning to end of ORO. And she loves GUMISING KA, MARUJA.

When the logo of Lea Prods came out, I nearly fall off from the couch.  ;D
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Post by: jdv1229 on Feb 22, 2006 at 07:35 PM
My mom will surely freak out when she see TUBOG. But she's cool sometimes, she sat with me from beginning to end of ORO. And she loves GUMISING KA, MARUJA.

When the logo of Lea Prods came out, I nearly fall off from the couch.  ;D


she probably would... it was daring inspite of the fact that it was released in 1971. why did you nearly fall off the couch after seeing the LEA Productions logo?  ;)
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Post by: keating on Feb 23, 2006 at 04:48 AM
As you have said, its weird, because I know they mostly produced wholesome movies. It was risky on their part.
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Post by: oggsmoggs on Mar 09, 2006 at 12:57 PM
I saw that Celso Ad Castillo's Snake Sisters is showing in Ever Gotesco cinemas. I'm just wondering if it's worth it to brave the less than perfect cinemas of Ever Gotesco to catch the film?
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Post by: keating on Mar 09, 2006 at 01:00 PM
Don't bother oggs, it will surely be mangled by the MTRCB. And Gotesco Cinema's sucks now.
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Post by: oggsmoggs on Mar 09, 2006 at 01:05 PM
Don't bother oggs, it will surely be mangled by the MTRCB. And Gotesco Cinema's sucks now.

But is the film any good?
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Post by: keating on Mar 09, 2006 at 01:09 PM
I haven't seen SNAKE SISTERS, but I heard some good reviews about it. And its the time when Celso Ad Castillo's visual genius was on its peak when he made the film.
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Post by: wedge on Mar 09, 2006 at 01:15 PM
Is there an ongoing film festival in Manila right now?

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Post by: keating on Mar 12, 2006 at 08:52 AM
SILIP (Elwood Perez)

Elwood Perez is no stranger to skin flicks. SILIP remains his most shocking, bizarre and exploitative film penned by the respectable Ricky Lee. Bad movie that you will love or hate due to excess nudities and gore thrown in. Cashing on the ECP craze during the 80's, I presume this was shown uncut at the now ghostly Manila Film Center which showed the rivalry between Ma. Isabelle Lopez & Sarsi Emmanuelle. The acting, the loud annoying musical score by Lutgardo Labad made this a Z-movie. Where else can you find Lopez teaching cathecisms to children and holding her lusts to stud Mark Joseph with no underwear at all? Move over, Sharon Stone! :D

Sarsi Emanuelle plays the liberated type who comes back to her childhood barrio and Lopez is the conservative one. The plot became more complicated because of Myra Manibog and the children who adore Lopez, who cares about the plot anyway? One of the barrio lass was killed, accusing Lopez as the killer and a lunatic. Hang on for the truly mad sequence in the history of erotic films in which Lopez & Emmanuelle are tied in all their naked glory by the towns folk. But instead of the men saving them, they raped the two barrio lass! Were there redeeming values in this film? Yes, folks there are! At least equality exists among the lead protagonists since Lopez, Emmanuelle and Joseph all suffered the same fate, with the exception of Joseph, the most cruel one. And hey, there's the value of friendship.

With movies like this no wonder, Philippine Cinema would surely rise from the grave.  ;D
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: johnnyblaze on Mar 13, 2006 at 08:24 PM
Out of curiosity, what was the first local bold film to ever feature lesbian scenes? My friend was arguing with me that the film that started it was "Lord, Give me a lover" and "Heartache City". These movies starred Maria Isabel Lopez according to him.

Do anyone of you know which movie contained the first lesbian scene? If there is, where can we get hold of these rare treasures.

Thanks
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: keating on Mar 13, 2006 at 08:33 PM
First lesbian scene, check out Rio Locsin & Cherie Gil's smooching inside the kariton in Bernal's MANILA BY NIGHT.
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Post by: killer_blow on Mar 14, 2006 at 07:39 AM
How about first "self-gratifying" scenes in the bomba movies?
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Post by: johnnyblaze on Mar 14, 2006 at 04:17 PM
First lesbian scene, check out Rio Locsin & Cherie Gil's smooching inside the kariton in Bernal's MANILA BY NIGHT.

Darn! When I saw that on cable TV a few months back, that scene was censored and was skipped, so I thought there weren't any (sighs). Where can I get a copy of that video? or more importantly that particular scene   ???

So "Manila by Night" is now on my list.  ;D

What other movies can I check? Specifically with "lesbian scenes" in them  :)

Many thanks :)
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Post by: jdv1229 on Mar 14, 2006 at 04:28 PM
Darn! When I saw that on cable TV a few months back, that scene was censored and was skipped, so I thought there weren't any (sighs). Where can I get a copy of that video? or more importantly that particular scene   ???

So "Manila by Night" is now on my list.  ;D

What other movies can I check? Specifically with "lesbian scenes" in them  :)

Many thanks :)

Manila By Night is now available on dvd thru cinefilipino.com & regalfilms.com

regarding other Filipino movies with lesbian scenes in them there's Cover Girls with Lorna Tolentino & Amy Austria in an extended love scene while Hilda Koronel & Beth Bautisa also did it in Evening Class. unfortunately both movies are not available in any format...
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Post by: johnnyblaze on Mar 14, 2006 at 04:54 PM
Jojo,

Thanks dude! I will look into that.  :)

Too bad "Cover girls" and "evening class" are not available. (maybe someone out there, may have a betamax or VHS version? I will be happy to convert it to DVD or VCD format for them)  :(


Can you describe the scenes that happened in this movie? Sorry, we didn't have the pleasure of seeing them, so reading about them is the only way we may envision it.  :)

Thanks

So the list increases.

1. Manila by Night ( Cherie Gil and Rio Locsin)
2. Cover Girls (Lorna Tolentino and Amy Austria)
3. Evening Class (Hilda Koronel and Beth Bautista)
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: keating on Mar 14, 2006 at 07:13 PM
Did Hilda Koronel went bold in EVENING CLASS, Jo? Her boldest so far was in Brocka's HAYOP SA HAYOP, right? She's too beautiful to be in the slums in INSIANG.
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Post by: jdv1229 on Mar 14, 2006 at 09:27 PM
Jojo,

Thanks dude! I will look into that.  :)

Too bad "Cover girls" and "evening class" are not available. (maybe someone out there, may have a betamax or VHS version? I will be happy to convert it to DVD or VCD format for them)  :(


Can you describe the scenes that happened in this movie? Sorry, we didn't have the pleasure of seeing them, so reading about them is the only way we may envision it.  :)

Thanks

So the list increases.

1. Manila by Night ( Cherie Gil and Rio Locsin)
2. Cover Girls (Lorna Tolentino and Amy Austria)
3. Evening Class (Hilda Koronel and Beth Bautista)

well in Cover Girls both Lorna & Amy play fashion models but Lorna is the more popular one while Amy is aspiring to become a model. in the scene, Lorna takes advantage of Amy while drunk and promises her that she would be as famous as she is if she would go to bed with her. they do an open mouth kiss while in their underwear. Lorna kisses amy between her chest going up to her neck then a passionate lip lock between the two.

in Evening Class Hilda plays a bisexual student who had an affair with lesbian Beth Bautista. they just showed a kiss between the two of them on the lips while fully clothed. unfortunately they cut the scene right away... it was shortened by the Board Of Censors.

Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: jdv1229 on Mar 14, 2006 at 09:30 PM
Did Hilda Koronel went bold in EVENING CLASS, Jo? Her boldest so far was in Brocka's HAYOP SA HAYOP, right? She's too beautiful to be in the slums in INSIANG.

i think Hayop Sa Hayop was still Hilda's boldest film although she only showed her back in the movie. in Sana Bukas Pa Ang Kahapon she had breast exposure. she never went bold in Evening Class but who knows her scene with Beth Bautista was shortened by the Board Of Censors daring maybe the right term...
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Post by: johnnyblaze on Mar 14, 2006 at 09:52 PM
well in Cover Girls both Lorna & Amy play fashion models but Lorna is the more popular one while Amy is aspiring to become a model. in the scene, Lorna takes advantage of Amy while drunk and promises her that she would be as famous as she is if she would go to bed with her. they do an open mouth kiss while in their underwear. Lorna kisses amy between her chest going up to her neck then a passionate lip lock between the two.


Man! that was a great scene ... good thing the censors didn't edit that out  :D. Too bad for me and the rest, that video won't be see the light of day  :( But who knows, maybe some kind hearted soul out there might have a copy and share it with the rest of the world.  ;)
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: johnnyblaze on Mar 15, 2006 at 06:14 PM
I just hope they bring back these classics in vcd or dvd format  ;D

It's part of cinema history  8)... yeah right... my pathetic excuse to get these videos  ;D
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: Chris V on Apr 13, 2006 at 08:49 AM
Snake Sisters is due to be released on DVD in the US by Pete Tombs' Mondo Macabro label. No word on a street date yet. All of the previous Mondo Macabro discs have good extras, often including a documentary on the genre cinema from the country of origin.

Silip has been gaining something of a cult following among American exploitation fans. The first seller of the movie, Shocking Videos described it in part as an " astounding, near-hardcore sexploitation monstrosity... this black hearted beauty will have you spellbound and slack-jawed with amazement!". I've yet to see it myself. I must admit to being a bit disappointed to learn that Ma. Isabel Lopez & Sarsi do *not* have a lesbian scene, as I had been led to believe...I do hope the film er...compensates for that in other ways (at least where Lopez is concerned).

A few questions:

--Do Tata Esteban's films fit into the bomba category? The little I've read about Hubo sa Dilim has piqued my curiosity.

--Does anyone have an idea of what are the oldest bomba films available on VHS/DVD/VCD? Reading this thread is akin to being on a rollercoaster: I'm tantalized by all these obscure titles, only to have my enthusiasm plummet every time each title mentioned is followed by a "not available in any format".  I've been combing through Regal for older titles (mainly 70s, and early 80s) but am hoping someone could point out some titles (sans the likes of Scorpio Nights or Temptation Island, which I have). Thanks very much.

(oh yeah...this is my first post...Hello!)

Chris
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Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: keating on Apr 13, 2006 at 10:49 AM
Hey Chris, welcome aboard! Its good to know that Celso Ad Castillo's SNAKE SISTERS is gaining cult status fame, I have yet to see it VIRGIN PEOPLE also. ISLA is worthy but be warned because the vcd release has so many cuts and the video looks terrible!

Jojo are you there? Have you read the post regarding SILIP? HAHAHA, its gaining cult status also, man! LOL!  ;D

I told you.......Z-movie that will have a place in Philippine Cinema. But you definitely need to take a bath after watching it, because of so much intense heat!  ;)
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Post by: jdv1229 on Apr 14, 2006 at 08:19 AM
Hey Chris, welcome aboard! Its good to know that Celso Ad Castillo's SNAKE SISTERS is gaining cult status fame, I have yet to see it VIRGIN PEOPLE also. ISLA is worthy but be warned because the vcd release has so many cuts and the video looks terrible!

Jojo are you there? Have you read the post regarding SILIP? HAHAHA, its gaining cult status also, man! LOL!  ;D

I told you.......Z-movie that will have a place in Philippine Cinema. But you definitely need to take a bath after watching it, because of so much intense heat!  ;)


i still don't understand the fascination with Silip... it's a lousy sex film.  ;D
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: keating on Apr 14, 2006 at 11:10 AM
We will argue about the merits of SILIP once you come home.  ;) It looks like our problem is so big, Jojo.  ;D

Regarding Tata Esteban, yup his films fall also on the bold category. ALAPAAP is so experimental, nice production design, cinematography and musical score. Esteban is underrated.
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: jdv1229 on Apr 14, 2006 at 07:12 PM
We will argue about the merits of SILIP once you come home.  ;) It looks like our problem is so big, Jojo.  ;D

Regarding Tata Esteban, yup his films fall also on the bold category. ALAPAAP is so experimental, nice production design, cinematography and musical score. Esteban is underrated.


hahahaha... we'll discuss Silip's merits, if it has any.  ;D

don't forget Tata Esteban also directed the films Salamangkero & Gabriela but i guess you're right that most of his films were on the steamier side, the best of which was Flesh Avenue but again it was more of Ricky Lee's movie that it was of the director.
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: keating on Apr 14, 2006 at 07:25 PM
In terms of boldness it was bombastic, huh!  ;D

FLESH AVENUE, im curious to see it, Jo.
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Post by: Noel_Vera on May 03, 2006 at 08:08 AM
I agree, it's a shame. Gritty doesn't necessarily mean superior, and being erotic and funny is more difficult to do, I think, than erotic and doomy.

O'Hara wanted to do a film version of Nadres' Hanggang Dito Na Lang Po...
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Post by: jdv1229 on May 03, 2006 at 08:10 AM
Problem Child was directed by Elwood Perez, while Beach House was helmed by Cloyd Robinson. as a matter of fact Danny Cabreira was also a huge part of the bold era. remember Uhaw Na Bulaklak and Mga Tinik Ng Babae, Iwasan Kabaret an omnibus directed by Perez, Cabreira & Gosiengfiao.
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Post by: jdv1229 on May 03, 2006 at 09:19 AM
Oo nga, Jojo, how can one forget Cloyd Robinson.  For better or worse, probably worse, he outcamped them all.

his movies are great for sheer camp value. there's Tambay Sa Disco, Miss Extra Espesyal, Love Affair, Wild Lips and Wild Animals to name a few...
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Post by: jdv1229 on May 03, 2006 at 09:37 AM
Jojo, didn't he unleash Deborah Sun to the moviegoing public?  For some reason, I think of her everytime I see pics of the Cat Lady.

actually Deborah Sun was introduced in Gosiengfiao's Temptation Island. it was also through Joey that Deborah met jimi Melendez.
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: Noel_Vera on May 03, 2006 at 09:44 AM
I forget who told me, but Louis Malle had a serious crush on Deborah Sun--wanted to make a movie with her and all.
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: keating on May 03, 2006 at 04:28 PM
Deborah Sun was also good in Gosiengfiao's BEDSPACERS.
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: ralfy on Mar 12, 2009 at 06:41 PM
From Video 48, Rossana Marquez:

http://video48.blogspot.com/2009/02/bomba-stars-7-rossana-marquez.html
Title: Re: Bomba movies of the 1970s and 80s
Post by: keating on Mar 16, 2009 at 11:36 AM
actually Deborah Sun was introduced in Gosiengfiao's Temptation Island. it was also through Joey that Deborah met jimi Melendez.

Deborah Sun was introduced in Gosiengfiao's BEDSPACERS and making a comeback via DEAD NA SI LOLO  by Soxie Topacio. Mark Gil's portrayal as one of the college students in BEDSPACERS  is one of his best.

Caught it last Thursday at Cinema One, but darn! They cut a large chunk of the film.