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Title: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Yakuini on Sep 02, 2004 at 11:56 AM
I took the liberty to create a separate thread for the much awaited Diamond 9 Series because I am sure a lot of enthusiast will pay attention to these new speakers.

Para naman di matabunan ang Diamond 8 discussions  ;)


http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/range.htm

9.0
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/90.gif)

9.1 - P5,500
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/91.gif)

9.2 - P7,000
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/92.gif)

9.3 - _8, 200
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/93.gif)

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Yakuini on Sep 02, 2004 at 12:03 PM
9.4 - P9,700
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/94.gif)

9.5 - P12,500
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/95.gif)

9.6
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/96.gif)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Yakuini on Sep 02, 2004 at 12:08 PM
9CC
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/9_CC.gif)

9CS
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/9_CS.gif)

9CM
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/9_CM.gif)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Sep 02, 2004 at 05:10 PM
  "the KEVLAR mid/bass driver and dark grey livery give the 9.1s the look and feel of a much more expensive design." - What Hi-Fi? October 2004
 
"look and feel" lang?  how about the sound? 

I agree, they do look expensive.  And from the site, with the 9.6 giving out a -3db point at 30hz, para ka na rin siguro naka sub.   ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 02, 2004 at 05:17 PM
  "the KEVLAR mid/bass driver and dark grey livery give the 9.1s the look and feel of a much more expensive design." - What Hi-Fi? October 2004
 
"look and feel" lang?  how about the sound? 

I agree, they do look expensive.  And from the site, with the 9.6 giving out a -3db point at 30hz, para ka na rin siguro naka sub. ;D

Hehehe Hope the it sounds impressive also... pag release we shall see... este hear pala..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Sep 02, 2004 at 06:46 PM
hope the tweeters in this one sound way better than the 8 series...naspoil na ko sa vifa xt tweeter na nilagay ko sa 5 fters ko e O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 02, 2004 at 06:59 PM
John,

Nice point there yun tweeter sana medyo open na.. >:D >:D wish wish
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 03, 2004 at 02:01 PM
Guys,

Mukhang marami nagaabang dito ah hehehehe wish wish affordable.. :D :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Yakuini on Sep 03, 2004 at 02:12 PM
Ako naman aabangan ko ang mga 8's nila...am sure meron mag-u-upgrade from 8 to 9  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Sep 03, 2004 at 04:54 PM
wish wish wish............... sana nga affordable, just like the 8 series.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: j_albert22 on Sep 03, 2004 at 06:52 PM
wish wish wish............... sana nga affordable, just like the 8 series.

maraming nagdadasal nyan hehehehe isa na ko don ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hans_adriane on Sep 06, 2004 at 09:45 AM
Guys,

Got new ETA of diamond 9 would be January pa according to Spectra hope date will change before Christmas.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Sep 06, 2004 at 11:09 AM
Guys,

Got new ETA of diamond 9 would be January pa according to Spectra hope date will change before Christmas.

Tamang tama - wala ng pera tao katatapos lang ng pasko. Wala ng bibili sa kanila pag mahal. mag-iintroductory proce sila - so mura!!!  ;D

When you wish upon a star.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 06, 2004 at 11:40 AM
ahobbit,

OO nga no teka baka pati tayo wala na din moolah.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Sep 06, 2004 at 03:07 PM
ayos yan..... pag jan pa, antay na naman tayo ng june...  hehehehe. tagal!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: theman on Sep 14, 2004 at 12:35 PM

check the price here:

http://www.hifibitz.co.uk/manufacturers_results.asp?manufacturerid=47&name=Wharfedale

price of diamond 9.0 is 10 pounds more expensive than the 8.1 entry speaker. pero ung next in line na bookshelf, it is 109 vs 180.  biglang steep ang price.

ang main question is this.... meron ba na gawa sa china?  kung wala ay expect similar price here and uk.  di katulad sa 8 series, mura dito kc gawa sa asia.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Sep 14, 2004 at 12:48 PM
hopefully it will be cheaper here than in UK. most of the wharfedales are just designed in UK and manufactured in china.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: fierari on Sep 14, 2004 at 01:49 PM
baka parang M7 to M3 yan laki ng minahal ng m3 heheheheheh
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 14, 2004 at 03:23 PM
fierari,

Naku hope and wish still affordable para naman maraming happy!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Sep 14, 2004 at 05:27 PM
guys,

according sa hifibitz price, diamond 9.4 costs 299.95 pounds. if converted to peso, it is around 30k. mura nga  ;D bili na kayo..... yoko na  ;D ;D joke
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Sep 15, 2004 at 11:41 AM
nakupo.......... B@W presyo ah!

but if it will be mass produced in china naka bumaba pa to half of its UK price.... at 15k, d n masama yon..... presyong mission na.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 15, 2004 at 01:47 PM
wanderlust,

Considering that the Diamonds are introduced here as entry level and cheap sana yun 9 eh ganun din.. hehehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Sep 15, 2004 at 02:05 PM
sana nga....

at sana made in china lang.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Sep 15, 2004 at 02:47 PM
My assessment are as follows:

The 9.0 is not the curved speaker enclosure and sports a 4" driver, and will cost same as 8.1 - here is 8.1 is better.

9.1 is similar driver size as 8.1 - will cost twice as much as 8.1. The same goes for 9.2 against 8.2, 9.4 against 8.3 and 9.5 against 8.4.

I wonder how much will 9.3 be?

Parang mahal! But evo is 3x pricey than 8 series, and the 9 series sems to be the offering of wharf for the evo performance at lesser budget.

IMHO, the comparison of 9series is with the evo one - so mura siya.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Sep 15, 2004 at 07:38 PM
wanderlust,

Considering that the Diamonds are introduced here as entry level and cheap sana yun 9 eh ganun din.. hehehehe


entry level nga ang diamond series kaso new release naman itong 9 series kaya may kamahalan pa din  ;D ;D pero mas mura siguro kesa sa Evo series  ::) ;D

tsaka halos parehas lang ang specs nila ng 8 series, sa design lang nagkatalo.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Sep 16, 2004 at 12:16 PM
hindi pa man din lumalabas and 9 series eh  marami nang nagbebenta ng 8 series sa buy and sell section, ano kaya balak nila? sana lumabas na 9 series. hehehe... ;)
abangan! :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 16, 2004 at 02:07 PM
hindi pa man din lumalabas and 9 series eh  marami nang nagbebenta ng 8 series sa buy and sell section, ano kaya balak nila? sana lumabas na 9 series. hehehe... ;)
abangan! :D

January ang last update pre ng ETA.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Sep 17, 2004 at 06:00 AM


January ang last update pre ng ETA.. ;D

Talaga sir? isa na ako sa mga mag aabang.  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 17, 2004 at 09:39 AM


Talaga sir? isa na ako sa mga mag aabang. ;)


Dami talaga waiting hehehehe kahit ako din.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Dracula on Sep 17, 2004 at 04:22 PM
Hi Guys,

I've actually auditioned the bookshelf diamond 9 series speakers...they were in the room when i was listening to the REL strata 5.  Pretty good sounding speakers I don't know if it's an improvement from the diamond 8 series never heard them yet(well properly auditioned would be more appropriate).  The hifibitz prizes are usually way above the prices in the philippines so it will probably be cheaper back home than here in the UK.  I'll try and audition these properly and give you feedback although I'm not much of an audiophile so I don't know if it'll be helpful. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Dracula on Sep 17, 2004 at 04:36 PM
I just talked to the shop where I heard the Diamond 9 to schedule an audition he said that the 9s wont be available for audition until the second week of october when the stocks from wharfedale arrive...the unit that was on display was sort of a test unit given to distributors
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Sep 17, 2004 at 04:41 PM
sir.....

that will be of great help to us.... we appreciate it really sir.

till the 2nd week of oct sir......
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Dracula on Sep 17, 2004 at 10:07 PM
sir.....

that will be of great help to us.... we appreciate it really sir.

till the 2nd week of oct sir......

Make that before the end of september I found a store which says their stock will arrive before the actual release date on the wharfedale website.... :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Sep 20, 2004 at 12:35 PM
nice...............


nice indeed......

we'll all be waiting here.......
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 29, 2004 at 08:00 PM
Technology for the Diamond 9 series..

Designed using the finest materials and technology in its class Diamond 9, yet again, redefines the standard of reproduction available. Whilst retaining many of the core features that made Diamond 8 successful, Diamond 9 introduces a raft of new features including:

 • a strong, inert, low resonance, curved and braced cabinet design
 • gold-plated and offset rear terminal posts for the best possible electrical conduction
 • fully shielded for use in close proximity to any display device or television
 • a simple crossover design to maintain phase coherency through the mid-range
 
 • high power 'rare-earth' magnet for high resolution and accuracy
 • a special alloy, chassis design to eliminate rear wave reflections from the chassis legs
 • dome midrange unit on Diamond 9.6 and large centre channel

Hehehehe para Pacific EVolution na nga..  ;D ;D ;D
 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Sep 30, 2004 at 01:21 PM
Hehehehe para Pacific EVolution na nga..  ;D ;D ;D
 

at least malapit na matapos denial stage mo: na makakabili kami ng pacific evolution at cheaper cost.  ;D magkano kaya 9.3? wla pa ba demo sa pinas?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Sep 30, 2004 at 02:20 PM
tama ka ahobbit para na rin tayong naka Evo nyan............       mura pa  ;D

type ko yung 9.4 :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 01, 2004 at 01:00 PM


at least malapit na matapos denial stage mo: na makakabili kami ng pacific evolution at cheaper cost.  ;D magkano kaya 9.3? wla pa ba demo sa pinas?

Waaaaaaaaaaa!!! LUGI... :'( :'( :'( :'( ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: losi_phile on Oct 01, 2004 at 01:30 PM
Technology for the Diamond 9 series..


 • high power 'rare-earth' magnet for high resolution and accuracy
 • a special alloy, chassis design to eliminate rear wave reflections from the chassis legs
 • dome midrange unit on Diamond 9.6 and large centre channel

Hehehehe para Pacific EVolution na nga.. ;D ;D ;D
 

Magnet pa lang mahal na, "rare earth" magnet - I remember these magnets when I'm still in the RC hobby - pinaka-expensive ang motor na "rare earth" magnet ang gamit ($150 - maliit lang ung nakakabit na magnet) pero siya pinaka-efficient.  Magkano nga kaya Diamond 9 series?  Hello Diamond 9.6...I'm waiting...come to papa... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sebman on Oct 01, 2004 at 01:37 PM


Magnet pa lang mahal na, "rare earth" magnet - I remember these magnets when I'm still in the RC hobby - pinaka-expensive ang motor na "rare earth" magnet ang gamit ($150 - maliit lang ung nakakabit na magnet) pero siya pinaka-efficient.  Magkano nga kaya Diamond 9 series?  Hello Diamond 9.6...I'm waiting...come to papa... ;D

congrats boss losi_phile dyan sa binabalak mo....  ;)  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 01, 2004 at 03:02 PM
matagal pa si... baka next year pa.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Oct 16, 2004 at 11:25 AM
Technology for the Diamond 9 series..

Designed using the finest materials and technology in its class Diamond 9, yet again, redefines the standard of reproduction available. Whilst retaining many of the core features that made Diamond 8 successful, Diamond 9 introduces a raft of new features including:

 • a strong, inert, low resonance, curved and braced cabinet design
 • gold-plated and offset rear terminal posts for the best possible electrical conduction
 • fully shielded for use in close proximity to any display device or television
 • a simple crossover design to maintain phase coherency through the mid-range
 
 • high power 'rare-earth' magnet for high resolution and accuracy
 • a special alloy, chassis design to eliminate rear wave reflections from the chassis legs
 • dome midrange unit on Diamond 9.6 and large centre channel

Hehehehe para Pacific EVolution na nga..  ;D ;D ;D
 

wowww....kailan ka kaya mapakingan, im sure in between the price of evo and 8 series ito, hope na kaya ng bulsa ito.... TAGAL MO SERIES 9 ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: zakkaz on Oct 16, 2004 at 07:34 PM
mukhang d na tyo magaantay ng matagal...........
may balita na NANDITO NA!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Oct 18, 2004 at 10:45 AM
mukhang d na tyo magaantay ng matagal...........
may balita na NANDITO NA!!!!!!!!!!

O kumpletuhin ang balita!  :(

Saan nandoon at magkano ang taga!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 18, 2004 at 11:03 AM
uu nga..nakakabitin eh...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Oct 18, 2004 at 11:19 AM
its available already!!!!!!! 9.1-9.5
get it now while its still hot
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Chito C. on Oct 18, 2004 at 11:28 AM
Sir,

Price po.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ferdie03 on Oct 18, 2004 at 11:32 AM
its available already!!!!!!! 9.1-9.5
get it now while its still hot

sir post mo naman price pls. ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 18, 2004 at 12:17 PM
Boys and Girls,

Got news talaga dito na Diamond 9 initially Black color daw meron..

Center - P4,500
Surround RS - P3,800
9.1 - P5,000
9.2 - P7,000
9.3 - P8,200
9.4 - P9,700
9.5 - P12,500
9.6 - Wala hehehehe

Got price from Spectra JIM

Bili bili na ako ng center wowowowow ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Oct 18, 2004 at 01:13 PM
Boys and Girls,

Got news talaga dito na Diamond 9 initially Black color daw meron..

Center - P4,500
Surround RS - P3,800
9.1 - P5,000
9.2 - P7,000
9.3 - P8,200
9.4 - P9,700
9.5 - P12,500
9.6 - Wala hehehehe

Got price from Spectra JIM

Bili bili na ako ng center wowowowow ;D ;D
correction:
9.1 - P5,500
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 18, 2004 at 01:16 PM
Boys and Girls,

Got news talaga dito na Diamond 9 initially Black color daw meron..

Center - P4,500
Surround RS - P3,800
9.1 - P5,000
9.2 - P7,000
9.3 - P8,200
9.4 - P9,700
9.5 - P12,500
9.6 - Wala hehehehe

Got price from Spectra JIM

Bili bili na ako ng center wowowowow ;D ;D

WOW! wala pa yung 9.6 hehehe mura yang intro price nila konting difference sa 8 series. boys and gels bili bili na kayo sa suking tindahan.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 18, 2004 at 01:18 PM
hans,

mukhang factory price yang list mo hehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 18, 2004 at 01:21 PM
Punk_kid,

Introductory price ata...

Specttra,

Thanks for the correction. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Chito C. on Oct 18, 2004 at 01:56 PM

correction:
9.1 - P5,500


pwede ba bpi 0%
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Oct 18, 2004 at 02:01 PM



pwede ba bpi 0%
sorry d kasa sa bpi 0% yun
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Chito C. on Oct 18, 2004 at 02:05 PM
Bili na kayo. Saluhin ko 8.3 nyo.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 18, 2004 at 02:33 PM
wala pang 9.6 sir >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jcob on Oct 18, 2004 at 02:36 PM
punk_kid,

Sir, sabihan mo ko pag napakingan mo na yung bagong diamond 9 series. kung malaki ba sound difference sa 8.3 natin. hehehe...

baka pwede ng ma-ipa ampon yung 8.3 ko.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 18, 2004 at 02:40 PM
sige sir audition natin pag meron na para may umampon na sa 8.3 mo, dami pa namang naka abang dyan hehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 18, 2004 at 02:42 PM
Punk_kid and Jcob,

Sir balita ko yun 9.2 ata o 9.3 kasing laki ng 602 S3.. hehehehehe meron display sa spectra sugod na..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jcob on Oct 18, 2004 at 02:43 PM
sige sir audition natin pag meron na para may umampon na sa 8.3 mo, dami pa namang naka abang dyan hehehe

oo, nga sir. nakakatukso kasi, mukang affordable yung price. sana may ibang color din.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Xzeo_L on Oct 18, 2004 at 02:47 PM
Pakibalitaan nyo po ako kung sakaling palitan nyo na mga 8.4 nyo! :-\ 09184471694 hehehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jcob on Oct 18, 2004 at 02:50 PM
Pakibalitaan nyo po ako kung sakaling palitan nyo na mga 8.4 nyo! :-\ 09184471694 hehehe.

Bayaan mo sir, hindi ka namin kakalimutan. by the way, may for sale na 8.3 sa buy&sell ah hindi pa rin sya nabibili hangang ngayon. baka gusto mo yun sir.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 18, 2004 at 02:56 PM


oo, nga sir. nakakatukso kasi, mukang affordable yung price. sana may ibang color din.

Hahaha very tempting talaga to sir grrrrrr... dapat kasi nuon pa ko bumili ng 8.3
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 18, 2004 at 03:00 PM
sold na ata yun mga tsong
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Oct 18, 2004 at 03:02 PM
KID, bilis! Bili na!!!!!..................  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 18, 2004 at 03:06 PM
sold na ata yun mga tsong

Grabe ang bilis naman nun...nde na yata i-naudition...   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 18, 2004 at 03:08 PM
Hmmmmmmmmmm...... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Oct 18, 2004 at 03:29 PM
ngek!.... ubos na kaagad! grabeeeee......pakinig munaaaaaaaaaaaa....... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Oct 18, 2004 at 03:34 PM
'ta 'na!   :-X

8.2k ang 9.3!  :o

Got to go and have to hear my future babe!  ;D

Sana this is better than the 8.3 (at 8k din)  ::)

Saan nagtatago si Spectra? I have to save a captive 9.3!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: fierari on Oct 18, 2004 at 03:36 PM
may 9.3 na???? san tinadahan yun?  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Oct 18, 2004 at 03:39 PM
Punk_kid and Jcob,

Sir balita ko yun 9.2 ata o 9.3 kasing laki ng 602 S3.. hehehehehe meron display sa spectra sugod na..
its 9.3 medyo malaki ang size medyo alanganin pang bookshelf and floorstand
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 18, 2004 at 03:39 PM
may 9.3 na???? san tinadahan yun?  ;D

wala na daw..nabili na..  ;D..Kung sino man po yung bumili paki post naman yung feedback...  :-*
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Oct 18, 2004 at 03:41 PM
may 9.3 na???? san tinadahan yun?  ;D
spectra
17 parksquare 1 ayala center makati
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 18, 2004 at 03:44 PM


Grabe ang bilis naman nun...nde na yata i-naudition... ;D ;D

kaw ba sir ang lucky owner nun 8.3? hehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Oct 18, 2004 at 03:46 PM

its 9.3 medyo malaki ang size medyo alanganin pang bookshelf and floorstand

That's why it's my choice!  ;D

Pero nabili na ba ika nyo?  ???

Dapat lagi sila may demo unit - at hindi ipinagbibili.  >:(

At ipinakikinig lamang sa atin.  ;)

At ipinanggigigil lamang sa atin!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 18, 2004 at 03:56 PM
sugod na sa spectra and auditioning these new babies........
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Oct 18, 2004 at 03:59 PM
only one pair of 9.3 is available right now
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Chito C. on Oct 18, 2004 at 04:10 PM
Mga sirs,

Bili na kayo! Tapos benta nyo 8.3 sa akin.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: fierari on Oct 18, 2004 at 04:37 PM
only one pair of 9.3 is available right now

mr spectra pwede po bang pa audition ng 9.3 nyo? tnx!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 18, 2004 at 05:02 PM
Fierari,

Pwede yan look for JIm ng Spectra.. Park square 1..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bravoexo on Oct 18, 2004 at 05:20 PM
I'll pass by later...  I might graduate my 8.4s to the rear... he he he
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 18, 2004 at 05:23 PM
bravoexo,

Bro balitaan mo kami ha... review.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Oct 18, 2004 at 05:26 PM
there's also subwoofer available
sw150 - 9000
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Oct 18, 2004 at 05:50 PM
Audition muna... sayang yung 8.3 ko... iba na tumunog ito.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 18, 2004 at 05:55 PM
Ito type ko hehehehe

9.1 -
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/91.gif)

9.2
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/92.gif)


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Oct 19, 2004 at 07:51 AM
nabili na lahat  ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 19, 2004 at 08:58 AM
john,

kala ko display unit lang yun ;D bilis talaga ng mga taga pinoydvd ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 19, 2004 at 09:04 AM
nabili na lahat  ???

Nyek! Hindi man lang pina-init sa store...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 19, 2004 at 09:12 AM
di ko man lang nga narinig kahit sandali lang >:(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Oct 19, 2004 at 09:12 AM
mga sirs,

nakita ko po ito sa ecoustics forum:

http://www.iag-pro.de/d91_firsttest.gif

http://www.iag-pro.de/sw150groupwin.gif

share ko lang po.

btw, newbie po ako.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 19, 2004 at 09:21 AM
mga sirs,

nakita ko po ito sa ecoustics forum:

http://www.iag-pro.de/d91_firsttest.gif

http://www.iag-pro.de/sw150groupwin.gif

share ko lang po.

btw, newbie po ako.

hmmm.....very tempting itong mga link mo ha.... but I don't like the disadvantage of the 9.1...better yet mas maganda kung i-audition talaga at magkaroon tayo ng review.....  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: fierari on Oct 19, 2004 at 09:38 AM
sinu ba yung nag popost na spectra AV? yung chinese dun sa spectra?  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 19, 2004 at 12:56 PM
John,

Ha ubos na san mo nalaman yan sir?? bilis naman hehehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimosabe on Oct 19, 2004 at 01:42 PM
HUWAT!  :o ang bilis namang maubos papunta pa naman ako sa spectra buti nalang nakapaglog ako dito.  If ever na magka-stock ulit sana same price parin mas better if bumaba  ;)

Sa mga nakabili reviews naman para magkaalaman na kung ibebenta ko na yung 8.3 ko  ::) ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Oct 19, 2004 at 01:54 PM
just been there at spectra. they have stocks available. saw there displayed the 9.1, 9.4 and then they just opened the 9.5. kaso no time to audition them. also they have the 9.center cs displayed there. i only asked the selling price of 9.5 which is P12.5k and 9.center cs at P4.5k.

sa katabi naman sa sights & sounds, meron 9.1/9.3/9.center cs packaged for the price of P21k.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Chito C. on Oct 19, 2004 at 02:02 PM
Sights and sounds shang mall merong 9.4, 9.5 at yung center cs (all black). Mas mahal price kesa spectra.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Oct 19, 2004 at 02:04 PM
oops nakalimutan ko lang lagyan ng question mark...i was just asking kung ubos na yung diamond 9...di pa pala:) di ba magkakaroon ng 9.6  ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 19, 2004 at 02:26 PM


kaw ba sir ang lucky owner nun 8.3? hehehe

UU Sir..kabibili ko lng ng 8.3  :'(..anyway, got to hear the review first...baka naman nde masyadong malayo ang difference...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 19, 2004 at 02:38 PM
brand new ba yan sir? pano kung mas maganda yung diamond 9 hehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 19, 2004 at 02:43 PM
brand new ba yan sir? pano kung mas maganda yung diamond 9 hehehe

OO Sir Brand new.....lapit na ngang matapos yung break-in eh...

If ever na maganda yung 9..malamang ma-dedemote yung 8.3 ko from front to back...anyway, medyo malayo pa naman ang price gap nila at wala pang decent review sa mga elite people na nakabili kagad kaya okay lng.....  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 19, 2004 at 02:51 PM
brand new din pala kinuha mo, bakit? 24/7 ba naka-ON yang system mo ;D ;D ;D

Note: 4 years ang break-in period nyan :o
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 19, 2004 at 03:07 PM
brand new din pala kinuha mo, bakit? 24/7 ba naka-ON yang system mo ;D ;D ;D

Note: 4 years ang break-in period nyan :o

Kala ko kc next year pa lalabas ang Series 9...  :'(

Mga 9 hours a day po ang break-in ko, ngayon nga po ... 4 years break-in period  :o Nyahahaha..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Chito C. on Oct 19, 2004 at 03:11 PM


Kala ko kc next year pa lalabas ang Series 9... :'(

Mga 9 hours a day po ang break-in ko, ngayon nga po ... 4 years break-in period :o Nyahahaha..

Pwede ko saluhin yan.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 19, 2004 at 03:28 PM


Pwede ko saluhin yan.

hehehe.....wait lang muna ako Sir...ala pa kasing magandang review about the 9 series...  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Oct 19, 2004 at 03:36 PM
9.1-9.5, 9 center and 9 surround (not the DFS) is still available all black
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: fierari on Oct 19, 2004 at 04:59 PM
mr spectra magkano po yung 9.5?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Oct 19, 2004 at 05:07 PM
mr spectra magkano po yung 9.5?
12500
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 19, 2004 at 08:13 PM
Guys,

Got to hear this new baby 9.3 ata ( almost kasing size ng 602 S3) woofer size ata is 8" or 7" basta malaki pa sa 9.5 woofer..

initial impression hook up sa HK hmmm.. promising ito fine (vocals) mids and highs  out of the box di sya muddy tumunog tapos yun bass meron very good for a bookshelf, love the timbre of instruments like yun piano nya maganda mataba.. dapat ma break in pa para ma open up yun highs

Must audition ito.... 8) 8)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on Oct 19, 2004 at 08:58 PM
What is the difference between the tweeters of diamond 8's and diamond 9's? In terms of frequency response, material, construction, type and over all performance. Thanks for any info...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 19, 2004 at 09:19 PM
Letor,

Notice with Diamond 8, Diamond 9 and even Pacific Evo series sports a soft dome tweeter as for frequency response 20Hz lahat ata sila. ( but i maybe wrong ).. material looks the same..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Oct 20, 2004 at 06:07 AM
9.1-9.5, 9 center and 9 surround (not the DFS) is still available all black

sir kailan kaya magkakaroon ng ibang color sa center and surround?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on Oct 20, 2004 at 07:57 AM
Letor,

Notice with Diamond 8, Diamond 9 and even Pacific Evo series sports a soft dome tweeter as for frequency response 20Hz lahat ata sila. ( but i maybe wrong ).. material looks the same..

Looks like a silk dome tweeter? Is it? The diamond 9 I mean.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Oct 20, 2004 at 12:57 PM


sir kailan kaya magkakaroon ng ibang color sa center and surround?
no idea yet it still depends on the distributor
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mYKi on Oct 20, 2004 at 02:13 PM
I saw different Diamond 9 models at Sight and Sounds in Shangri-La. Bookshelves, floorstanders, and center speakers. I didn't have time to audition but it looked pretty nice. Black lang yung kulay that they have on stock.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jcob on Oct 20, 2004 at 02:59 PM
heard the 9.3 today at sights & sounds. my impression is that they have similar sound characteristics as the diamond 8's (at least when i compared it with my 8.3). though in my opinion, the 9 series has a little edge in the highs and low frequency area, this maybe because of the larger driver size (8") and the new cabinet construction. have'nt really compared the two diamonds side by side.

but i think the 9.3 is a good candidate for HT application. in terms of audio, i still prefer the AE evo or MA Bronze. I guest you will also need a powerful SS amp to move those big drivers. very low sensitivity too (86db).

this is just my opinion...cheers and have a taste of it.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 20, 2004 at 03:18 PM
Guys,

Ayan dami na pala shop available ang 9 series.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Oct 20, 2004 at 05:05 PM
Guys,

Ayan dami na pala shop available ang 9 series.. ;D ;D

ok yan sir. pero the price, pare-pareho lang kaya? ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 20, 2004 at 05:26 PM
may konting price difference lang siguro yan kasi isa lang naman ang distributor dito sa pinas.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 20, 2004 at 05:29 PM
at least marami tayong option kung san magbuy..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Oct 20, 2004 at 06:23 PM
heard the 9.3 today at sights & sounds. my impression is that they have similar sound characteristics as the diamond 8's (at least when i compared it with my 8.3). though in my opinion, the 9 series has a little edge in the highs and low frequency area, this maybe because of the larger driver size (8") and the new cabinet construction. have'nt really compared the two diamonds side by side.

but i think the 9.3 is a good candidate for HT application. in terms of audio, i still prefer the AE evo or MA Bronze. I guest you will also need a powerful SS amp to move those big drivers. very low sensitivity too (86db).

this is just my opinion...cheers and have a taste of it.

Heard it also! It sounds almost similar to 8.3, though have not been much into critical listening so ask the sales rep - the reply is that it has improved highs than 8.3. The bass, I would say is also better.

Sir, the 9.3 is 88dB sensitivity.

With my gainclone, break-in and high power is not an issue!  ;D   It will kick any speaker it can date with!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 20, 2004 at 08:41 PM
ahobbit,

When i audition the 9 i remember my Evo before it was new medyo shy yun highs nga pero labas na mids.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Oct 21, 2004 at 06:01 AM
tom is friday, cgurado ako maraming pdvd member ang nasa mga audio store kung saan may series 9, hehehehe.... kita kits tayo dun mga sir. ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ronjet on Oct 21, 2004 at 07:38 AM
hi im newbie here...i heard na it narin.i auditioned it na sa spectra last tuesday afternoon and i was told by the guy there who also post  here that dumaan na din si sir hans n frans ata..hehehe :) yung 9.3 lang ang pwede pa i audition that time kasi nasa box pa yung ka-pair nung 9.5..n parang mas ok na nga yung low niya po..n pero di ko masyado pa macompare yung high niya...

sir hans,punk,vhong,jcob,myki,letor,fierari,control n sir john....ask lang po..medyo ot ata...pwede po b icompare yang 9.3 or 9.5 to bnw 602s3???? whats the difference po kaya?? any comment?? tnx so much..ur opinion reviews will be more helpful to me po...tnx ulit in advance..pwede din po pm nalang ang sagot para di gaanong Ot... :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 21, 2004 at 11:23 AM
sir ronjet,

Wharf and B&W are diff brand syempre pati sa sound sama mo na price B&W is more expensive.. Now would like to ask what amp do you plan to pair this speakers?? coz matching is very critical so that you'll ge the sound you like and not the sound we like  ;D ;D

Any of the two maganda audition with your amp and bring the music you listen to tapos compare Wharf speaker are warm sounding while B&w are detail naman.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 21, 2004 at 12:31 PM
ronjet sir,

it would be better if you could bring (if you already have) your amp to an av store that caters for both b&w and wharfe.... let your ears decide as they always say here, cause it might be that youll like what the sound or wharfe better than the B&W, while anyone of us here might prefer B&W than wharfe, or vice versa. it all depends kasi sa taste and matching e.

good luck.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 21, 2004 at 12:34 PM
mag we-weekend na pala.....  8) given the time, i will audition the diamond 9 ;D previous reviews is making me drool already n kasi  :o ... gotta hear it fr myself!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on Oct 21, 2004 at 12:55 PM
At saka sir ronjet, pls note also that speakers may sound differently in different environments. say mas maganda ang acoustics sa show room kay sa living room nyo or vice versa so there's a tendency na ma disappoint ka or more impressed pag install mo sa bahay nyo. At least you already have the idea so ready ka na. que sera sera...   
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 21, 2004 at 01:12 PM
korek! whatever will be will be! ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 21, 2004 at 02:22 PM
let me sum this up for you sir Ronjet..Factors to consider are:
1. Budget - ingat lang kay misis..  :-X
2. Environment where you will use the speakers  ???
3. Application ( For HT ba or Audio... how many % in HT..how many percent in audio )
4. Amplifier that will drive the speakers
5. Combination - because most of the speakers require one another e.g. Wharf Fronts with wharf Centers..
6. Personal preference (This is the most important one)  - Baka kasi okay na sa amin yun pala nde ka agree.
7. Pang handa mo kapag nakabili ka na......let's celebrate...  ;D ;D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 21, 2004 at 02:41 PM
Remember that kevlar drivers are known as hard to drive speaker so you need to have a hi-current amp to power up these B&W and Diamond 9 speakers.

guys,

ako na lang ata ang hindi pa nakakarinig ng diamond 9  :( hope to hear them soon before they disappear ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 21, 2004 at 03:05 PM
Remember that kevlar drivers are known as hard to drive speaker so you need to have a hi-current amp to power up these B&W and Diamond 9 speakers.

guys,

ako na lang ata ang hindi pa nakakarinig ng diamond 9  :( hope to hear them soon before they disappear ;D ;D

KID_lat,

Kaya mo yan KID.......... bilis baka maubos ang display unit.. heheehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 21, 2004 at 03:36 PM
Remember that kevlar drivers are known as hard to drive speaker so you need to have a hi-current amp to power up these B&W and Diamond 9 speakers.

guys,

ako na lang ata ang hindi pa nakakarinig ng diamond 9  :( hope to hear them soon before they disappear ;D ;D

Sir punk...nde ka nag-iisa..  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Oct 21, 2004 at 03:40 PM
Itaguyod na naitn ang samahan ng mga hindi pa nakakapakinig ng diamond 9.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 21, 2004 at 04:07 PM
Itaguyod na naitn ang samahan ng mga hindi pa nakakapakinig ng diamond 9. ;D ;D

anong pangalan ng samahan pre? WHARF ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 21, 2004 at 04:10 PM


anong pangalan ng samahan pre? WHARF ;D

Nyahahaha...sali ako dyan....

I Vote Sir este Master Kimpao to be our President..  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 21, 2004 at 04:15 PM
Control,

ST president na yan... ( STRESS test )... hehehehe tapos DON Paldo pa..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 21, 2004 at 04:17 PM
Control,

ST president na yan... ( STRESS test )... hehehehe tapos DON Paldo pa..

Nyak! Dami na palang obligations si Master kimpao....  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ronjet on Oct 21, 2004 at 05:24 PM
mga sirs!! hehe.. :)..tnx po sa mga payo niyo ;)...sir control..hehe..buti wala pa namng misis.hehe..so wala pa as of now ng wifey factor...:D..n tungkol namn sa budget..basta hanggan 602s3 lang po..yung amp namn..wla padin but im eyeing for hk330 sana or 230 or maghanap po ng iba pang brand....and it wil be used 50-50(ht n music)....TNX SO MUCH AND TLGANG NAKAKATULONG TONG PINOYDVD FORUM! buti nalng maynakapgsabi sa akin...hehe.. sorry po sa mga mods medyo ot na...balik na po sa topic.....hehe..again tnx po mga sir. hans,control,punk,kimpao,wanderlust,letor, :)....

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 21, 2004 at 05:31 PM
At your service kami Bro ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Oct 21, 2004 at 05:51 PM
mga sirs!! hehe.. :)..tnx po sa mga payo niyo ;)...sir control..hehe..buti wala pa namng misis.hehe..so wala pa as of now ng wifey factor...:D..n tungkol namn sa budget..basta hanggan 602s3 lang po..yung amp namn..wla padin but im eyeing for hk330 sana or 230 or maghanap po ng iba pang brand....and it wil be used 50-50(ht n music)....TNX SO MUCH AND TLGANG NAKAKATULONG TONG PINOYDVD FORUM! buti nalng maynakapgsabi sa akin...hehe.. sorry po sa mga mods medyo ot na...balik na po sa topic.....hehe..again tnx po mga sir. hans,control,punk,kimpao,wanderlust,letor, :)....



salamat ronjet sa iyong pagtitiwala sa amin. sana ngawa ay nakatulong kami sa iyo at di naman kami magsasawa na tumulong sa mga bago na katulad mo. :D  huwag ka lang magdidikit sa amin dahil tiyak SARS ang aabutin mo.  ;D  joke lang. ;D 

personally, i'd go for the wharf/HK combi. subok na ito sir. ;D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 21, 2004 at 06:04 PM
ronjet,

HK/Wharf
HK/B&W
HK/MA
HK/AE
HK/MIssion

Lahat ata pwede sa HK.. hehehehe ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 21, 2004 at 06:08 PM
Ayan sir! pwede mo ng ma-audition yang HK/Wharf combo, basta si master magrecomenda siguradong SARS........... este PANALO ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 21, 2004 at 06:10 PM
Mr. Endorser,

Baka lalong magulo si sir ronjet sa dami ng choices na binigay mo ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ronjet on Oct 21, 2004 at 06:13 PM
sir kimpao...subok na ba yung wharf/hk combi..hehe...kailiangan ko cguro bumalik sa spectra n try ko ulit....bka may mga higher model na ready for audition na :)....bkit pala sars aabutin..hahaha....

sir hans...hmmm..lahat pala pwede..hehe...tnx..had u try to audition na b yung 9.5???

OT:..mukhang napapaisip ako sa wharf. ngayon namn may sars pa?? hehe..bkit kaya napasok yang sars na yan.. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 21, 2004 at 06:18 PM
malalaman mo din ang SARS pag may system ka na sir ;D try to audition that combo baka magustuhan mo. Good luck sir, balitaan mo kami ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Oct 21, 2004 at 06:22 PM
SARS, sigurado yan sir lalo na single ka. nakows!!!!...... baka mag-tube amp ka niyan pag di naka-tiis sa audio. Alalahanin, maganda rin and diamond sa PP Tube amps.  >:D ;D ;D


Budget level
HK/Wharfs - Budget setup for 50/50 HT and Audio
Yamaha/Wharfs - Mas budget setup kaso 70/30 HT and Audio


Medyo napamahal lang ng konti pero mga all rounder naman  ;D
HK/B&W
HK/MA
HK/AE
HK/MIssion
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ronjet on Oct 21, 2004 at 06:27 PM
sir punkkid....cge try ko audition din..si sir hans ata madalas dun e..hehehe...

sir kimpao...mukhang ayos din yang mga binigay mo..hehe...try ko yung hk/wharfs..nung naaudition ko yung 9.3(similar size sa 602s3) parang ok na rin.. :)....haha..gusto ko din sana 602s3..hmm...parang nakakaintriga yang SARS niyo ha...hehe..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 21, 2004 at 06:32 PM
sir kimpao...subok na ba yung wharf/hk combi..hehe...kailiangan ko cguro bumalik sa spectra n try ko ulit....bka may mga higher model na ready for audition na :)....bkit pala sars aabutin..hahaha....


Wharf speaker are power hungry (like Sonus, Dynaudience etc) so to be there best sound dapat may power or High current yun amp. HK are high current amp usually they provide minimun wattage sa spec pero when you listen to them eh mas malakas pa yun 85watts sa 100watts ng ibang brand.. and maganda headroom ng HK kaya you'll notice fuller and warmer ang sound..


sir hans...hmmm..lahat pala pwede..hehe...tnx..had u try to audition na b yung 9.5???


Di ko pa na audition ang Diamond 9.5 only 9.3 lang driven by HK AVR.. btw I owned a Wharf speaker.. ;D ;D ;D


SARS... malalaman mo rin yan... ;D ;D ;D


Happy hunting and auditioning...  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Oct 21, 2004 at 06:36 PM
sir punkkid....cge try ko audition din..si sir hans ata madalas dun e..hehehe...

sir kimpao...mukhang ayos din yang mga binigay mo..hehe...try ko yung hk/wharfs..nung naaudition ko yung 9.3(similar size sa 602s3) parang ok na rin.. :)....haha..gusto ko din sana 602s3..hmm...parang nakakaintriga yang SARS niyo ha...hehe..

Sir, yung na audition mo sigurado di pa broken-in kaya siguro parang ok na rin. kung bitin ka sa bass better audition the 9.5. balita ko meron daw sa park square 1 (alin shops kaya). Kung meron 9.4, audition mo rin. Sir wag ka mahiya dun sa mga shops dahil pera mo naman ang pambibili mo dun eh, diba.

SARS, naku po! :o  Huwag kang maintriga, sir at baka magsisi ka.  ;D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 21, 2004 at 06:39 PM


Sir, yung na audition mo sigurado di pa broken-in kaya siguro parang ok na rin. kung bitin ka sa bass better audition the 9.5. balita ko meron daw sa park square 1 (alin shops kaya). Kung meron 9.4, audition mo rin. Sir wag ka mahiya dun sa mga shops dahil pera mo naman ang pambibili mo dun eh, diba.

SARS, naku po! :o  Huwag kang maintriga, sir at baka magsisi ka.  ;D




Don Kimpao,

Di pa break in yun 9.3 ng spectra na audition ko yun eh..  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Oct 21, 2004 at 06:43 PM



Don Kimpao,

Di pa break in yun 9.3 ng spectra na audition ko yun eh..  :)

Koya,

may 9.4 o 9.5 ka bang nasilip dun. tinitingnan ko specs dun sa site ng wharf.  OK naman at promising, pwede pang ht upgrade. ahehehehehe  >:D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ronjet on Oct 21, 2004 at 06:46 PM
tnx sir hans...il try to visit again spectra...also...ill wait for your reviews about those model of the diamond 9 series..hehe :)....

sir kimpao aka Don Kimpao as what sir hans says..hehe..yung 9.3 e..sa akin ok namn yung low niya...parang konti nalng...yung high namn..for me..yun yung parang kulang..konti lang namn...mid is ok lang din :)...yup may 9.4 n 9.5 sila sir kimpao...yun nga lang nung pumunta ako...1pc pa lang nakalabas sa kahon..hehe..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 21, 2004 at 06:49 PM


Koya,

may 9.4 o 9.5 ka bang nasilip dun. tinitingnan ko specs dun sa site ng wharf. OK naman at promising, pwede pang ht upgrade. ahehehehehe >:D ;D ;D

Positive Senor.. ;D ;D yun 9.5 naka display while the 9.4 is in the box pa.. wala 9.6.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 22, 2004 at 06:40 AM
Napapakiramdaman ko na ang SARS...malamang Next Year mas marami na ang infected ng Series 9 na wharfes...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Oct 22, 2004 at 08:28 AM
i've been there yesterday at spectra around 7:30pm and naka-play ang 9.3 connected to an hk 130. my overall impression is ok sya though parang bitin ng konti yung treble and bass (sorry if my terms are wrong, i'm just starting on this hobby  :)) pero like someone posted here na di pa nabi-breakin kasi.

gusto ko sana talaga marinig ang 9.5, nag offer na nga dun yung isang tauhan (hindi si jim) sa spectra na ilalabas nya nya yung 9.5 para ma-audition ko. kaso my mahiyain in nature got the better of me (hassle kasi na buksan pa nila yung box plus hindi magaan ang 9.5 ha) so i told him na next time na lang pag talagang bibili na ako.

the chinese guy (anak ata ng may-ari) showed me the diamond 9.sr (surround speakers), medyo naliitan ako (actually maliit talaga siya) so i think hindi sya maganda gamitin if you're into sacd/dvd-a surround playing. he also informed me to inquire from time to time for the availability of the 9.6 (my first preference  ;D) starting today. sana dumating na!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 22, 2004 at 08:30 AM
i've been there yesterday at spectra around 7:30pm and naka-play ang 9.3 connected to an hk 130. my overall impression is ok sya though parang bitin ng konti yung treble and bass (sorry if my terms are wrong, i'm just starting on this hobby  :)) pero like someone posted here na di pa nabi-breakin kasi.

gusto ko sana talaga marinig ang 9.5, nag offer na nga dun yung isang tauhan (hindi si jim) sa spectra na ilalabas nya nya yung 9.5 para ma-audition ko. kaso my mahiyain in nature got the better of me (hassle kasi na buksan pa nila yung box plus hindi magaan ang 9.5 ha) so i told him na next time na lang pag talagang bibili na ako.

the chinese guy (anak ata ng may-ari) showed me the diamond 9.sr (surround speakers), medyo naliitan ako (actually maliit talaga siya) so i think hindi sya maganda gamitin if you're into sacd/dvd-a surround playing. he also informed me to inquire from time to time for the availability of the 9.6 (my first preference  ;D) starting today. sana dumating na!

Nyahahah..akala ko ako lang ang naghihintay ng 9.6 ikaw rin pala...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: losi_phile on Oct 22, 2004 at 09:11 AM


Nyahahah..akala ko ako lang ang naghihintay ng 9.6 ikaw rin pala... ;D

Ako rin...hunting for that 9.6. 

Been to Sights and Sounds sa Shangrila last night and was able to audition 9.1.  To my ears, mas maganda siyang tumunog kaysa 8.1.  Mas litaw ung bass niya na medyo kulang naman sa 8.1.  Mas maganda rin looks niya with the black kevlars kahit alisin mo yung cover nya, ganda pa rin. Pero ang price niya is Php6+.  Nakita ko rin 9.4 and 9.5 pero medyo nahiya na akong pa-audition, try ko audition mamayang lunch time.  The 9.4 is slightly smaller than the 8.3 and the 9.5 is slightly taller than 8.3 but rear ported siya which, in my opinion, medyo mapili sa set-up.

For people like me, control and chastix,  we'll have to prepare for something like 15k >:( - 18k >:( for that big 9.6.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 22, 2004 at 09:20 AM


Ako rin...hunting for that 9.6. 

Been to Sights and Sounds sa Shangrila last night and was able to audition 9.1.  To my ears, mas maganda siyang tumunog kaysa 8.1.  Mas litaw ung bass niya na medyo kulang naman sa 8.1.  Mas maganda rin looks niya with the black kevlars kahit alisin mo yung cover nya, ganda pa rin. Pero ang price niya is Php6+.  Nakita ko rin 9.4 and 9.5 pero medyo nahiya na akong pa-audition, try ko audition mamayang lunch time.  The 9.4 is slightly smaller than the 8.3 and the 9.5 is slightly taller than 8.3 but rear ported siya which, in my opinion, medyo mapili sa set-up.

For people like me, control and chastix,  we'll have to prepare for something like 15k >:( - 18k >:( for that big 9.6.

hehehe...yari na naman ang Christmass bonus ko nito...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 22, 2004 at 09:38 AM
Guys,

how about the grill? plastic pa rin ba? im eyeing on the 9.4 kaya lang mahirap atang ma audition yun ng naka box ;D ;D ;D

losi_phile,

Give us your feedback later on the 9.4 and 9.5 >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Oct 22, 2004 at 10:12 AM
i'm also waiting for the 9.6, hope its a price beater, and a good candidate for an audio setup ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Oct 22, 2004 at 11:33 AM
yup, plastic pa rin pero a very big improvement kesa grills ng series 8. stud-type (tama ba term ko) ang sa series 9 unlike dun sa series 8 na parang clip-type. and the material used is much sturdy. ok na sya. plus pag kinatok mo yung kahoy (the speaker housing) mas solid ng konti  :)


Guys,

how about the grill? plastic pa rin ba? im eyeing on the 9.4 kaya lang mahirap atang ma audition yun ng naka box ;D ;D ;D

losi_phile,

Give us your feedback later on the 9.4 and 9.5 >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 22, 2004 at 11:44 AM
chatstix,

Uy! ok yan medyo solid pala enclosure, i bet mas maganda to sa 8 series ;D ;D kasi 9 series na mwehehehe must heard pala talaga to >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: fierari on Oct 22, 2004 at 01:44 PM
hanep 8 incher pala 9.3 ang laki pala nun.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 25, 2004 at 07:48 AM
Dami pala nagaabang sa 9.6.. mahal yun di kaya ng budget.. bookshelf and center lang ako hehehhee..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: juneaki on Oct 25, 2004 at 08:20 AM
Mga sirs, may nakapag-audition na po ba sa inyo nung 9.3? Is it good compared to your present setup? Magkano po ba ang 9.3?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 25, 2004 at 09:36 AM
Mga sirs, may nakapag-audition na po ba sa inyo nung 9.3? Is it good compared to your present setup? Magkano po ba ang 9.3?

Center - P4,500
Surround RS - P3,800
9.1 - P5,500
9.2 - P7,000
9.3 - P8,200
9.4 - P9,700
9.5 - P12,500
9.6 - Wala pa

Galing sa Spectra
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Oct 25, 2004 at 10:37 AM


Center - P4,500
Surround RS - P3,800
9.1 - P5,500
9.2 - P7,000
9.3 - P8,200
9.4 - P9,700
9.5 - P12,500
9.6 - Wala pa

Galing sa Spectra

sir ano yung center na yan cc, cs or cm?

pogi ng diamonds. mas maganda sa personal.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 25, 2004 at 10:48 AM


sir ano yung center na yan cc, cs or cm?

pogi ng diamonds. mas maganda sa personal.



Actually hindi ko rin alam..  ;D Kinopya ko lang yang dun sa mga naunang posts...But if you want to inquire you can contact Sir Jim of Spectra 8185493  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Oct 25, 2004 at 12:06 PM


sir ano yung center na yan cc, cs or cm?

pogi ng diamonds. mas maganda sa personal.



the center is CS, saw it last friday, bigger than CC, smaller than CM.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 25, 2004 at 12:20 PM


the center is CS, saw it last friday, bigger than CC, smaller than CM.

Sir Vhong...any reviews? Nakapag-audition ka ba last weekend?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 25, 2004 at 12:37 PM
guys,

YUn Diamond 9.1 Product of the Year 2004 of What Hifi. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Oct 25, 2004 at 04:16 PM


Sir Vhong...any reviews? Nakapag-audition ka ba last weekend?

tinignan ko lang, no time eh! may kasama kasi ako. hehehehe... pero gwapo talaga sya sa personal, sana ganun din ang performance.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 26, 2004 at 06:53 AM
guys,

YUn Diamond 9.1 Product of the Year 2004 of What Hifi. ;D ;D

Master Hans musta na yung 9c mo? Mas oks ba sya kaysa 8c? Review naman dyan...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mYKi on Oct 26, 2004 at 07:06 AM
hans,

What issue is this? Lumabas na ba yung 2004 awards?

Myki

guys,

YUn Diamond 9.1 Product of the Year 2004 of What Hifi. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 26, 2004 at 08:57 AM
Koya,

may tinatago ka palang 9c dyan ha....... bad boy ka! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: odyopayl on Oct 26, 2004 at 09:19 AM
Anybody tried 9.1?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 26, 2004 at 01:36 PM
hans,

What issue is this? Lumabas na ba yung 2004 awards?

Myki


Bro just saw this sa site ng Wharf mismo..

http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/



Master Hans musta na yung 9c mo? Mas oks ba sya kaysa 8c? Review naman dyan... ;D

Bro di pa ako nakabili... wala pa moolah... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 26, 2004 at 01:53 PM

Bro di pa ako nakabili... wala pa moolah... ;D

Nyeheheh...Si Master Kimpao kaya?  ;D  Kayang kaya nya yun...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Oct 26, 2004 at 01:55 PM


Nyeheheh...Si Master Kimpao kaya?  ;D  Kayang kaya nya yun...

Sir wag po guluhin ang akin matagal ng magulong isipan.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 26, 2004 at 02:03 PM


Sir wag po guluhin ang akin matagal ng magulong isipan.  ;D ;D

 ;D ;D Mukhang may mas matindi pang niluluto si Master kimpao aside sa wharf 9...  :-X
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: garee on Oct 26, 2004 at 02:34 PM
available po rin ba kaya dito ang package na ito?

(http://img91.exs.cx/img91/2019/diamond-9.jpg)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Oct 26, 2004 at 02:48 PM
bro how much yung package?  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: garee on Oct 26, 2004 at 02:54 PM
bro how much yung package?  ;)

nakita ko lang po yan sa brochure.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 26, 2004 at 03:15 PM


nakita ko lang po yan sa brochure.

Brochure ng? sowee ha..bitin kasi eh..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 26, 2004 at 03:26 PM


Brochure ng? sowee ha..bitin kasi eh..

Alam ko na...dun sa brochure ng wharfe 9.....hehehe...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Oct 26, 2004 at 03:28 PM


Brochure ng? sowee ha..bitin kasi eh..

Di pwedeng field reporter!  ;D

Kulang-kulang ang detalye, este, installment pala!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 26, 2004 at 03:30 PM


Di pwedeng field reporter! ;D

Kulang-kulang ang detalye, este, installment pala! ;D

Hahahahaha dami talaga nagaabang ng report sa Diamond 9.. Bili na kasi sir..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 26, 2004 at 03:36 PM


Hahahahaha dami talaga nagaabang ng report sa Diamond 9.. Bili na kasi sir..

heheh..pangunahan mo na Master Hans...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: garee on Oct 26, 2004 at 03:37 PM
brochure ng wharfdale po syempre. anong thread ba ito?...aiwa? hehehe j/k

just call spectra and said they have the package for P17,500.00
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dvh on Oct 26, 2004 at 03:57 PM
guys,

meron ba sa inyo kenwood avr and wharf9.1 setup?  ok ba ang compatibility?

thanks
dvh
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: garee on Oct 26, 2004 at 04:06 PM
product description/specifications of the package  ;D

(http://img38.exs.cx/img38/9388/diamond-9pix.jpg)

mukhang interesting hehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Oct 26, 2004 at 05:05 PM
brochure ng wharfdale po syempre. anong thread ba ito?...aiwa? hehehe j/k

just call spectra and said they have the package for P17,500.00
there's one set available sa spectra but its still in the box unopened
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: PLiSKiN on Oct 27, 2004 at 07:57 AM
hi... just wanna ask if the the 9series is still compatible with hk receivers??? & is it still advisable to buy the 8series or ill just go with the new one... dati kc naka set n ung mind ko n 8.3, 8.1 & 8c ung kukunin ko kc nga most recommended & testetd n ung ganong set-up, kaso ngayon may 9 series n. anong kukunin ko ??? ??? need ur opinions guys... tia!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 27, 2004 at 08:14 AM
hi... just wanna ask if the the 9series is still compatible with hk receivers??? & is it still advisable to buy the 8series or ill just go with the new one... dati kc naka set n ung mind ko n 8.3, 8.1 & 8c ung kukunin ko kc nga most recommended & testetd n ung ganong set-up, kaso ngayon may 9 series n. anong kukunin ko ??? ??? need ur opinions guys... tia!!!

Medyo mahirap pang magsabi kung okay nga ang 9 series with hk....but if you will browse 1-2 pages back sa forum na ito you will see that Master Kimpao and Master Hans would say na ok ang hk sa wharf...My point is that wala pang nagkaroon ng decent wharfe 9 series setup with any receivers dahil kalalabas pa lang..  ;) kaya medyo mahirap pang magsabi kung okay talaga silang combo....I would also think about the price range...lalo na yung sa mga floorstanders medyo malayo ang price gap...but that is in relation to their respective features kaya medyo mas mahal na siya......bottom line....audition first......kung saan ka masaya at kaya ng breads mo...dun ka...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 27, 2004 at 08:54 AM
Pliskin,

Tama si control, bagong labas pa lang itong mga 9 series pero im sure bagay ito sa HK receivers. Kung gusto mo ng talagang mag setup, you can browse at the buy n sell section meron mga affordable gears dun tsaka ka na mag upgrade to 9 series pag may mga good reviews na 8)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 27, 2004 at 11:11 AM
or better still, audition it...... try it out and if you like go for it.

much better if they will allow you to home audition it, so that youll know how it will actually perform at home or hwere youll be placing it in.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Chito C. on Oct 27, 2004 at 11:18 AM
WALA PA BANG REVIEWS?

PARANG WAITING LANG LAHAT SA 13TH MONTH.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Oct 27, 2004 at 11:29 AM
baka bumili ako mamaya ng 9.1. eto na muna siguro ang simula since di pa available ang 9.6 at 5k lang ang binigay ni esmi...hehehehe

present setup ko ngayon is 8.4, diamond center sa harap at 8.2 ang rears. HK230 ang avr.

compare ko ang 9.1 at 8.2. post ko bukas ang findings.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Oct 27, 2004 at 11:30 AM
Seems everyone wants it safe.  Am I right to say there's no PinoyDVD member who owns a diamond 9 yet? (Except chatstix above you will yet buy one)  Di sapat na 2004 Product of the Year siya by What Hi-Fi.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 27, 2004 at 11:35 AM
Seems everyone wants it safe.  Am I right to say there's no PinoyDVD member who owns a diamond 9 yet? (Except chatstix above you will yet buy one)  Di sapat na 2004 Product of the Year siya by What Hi-Fi.  ;D

Hehehe...Sir AV maybe it's because its difficult to spend a hard earned money..Kaya lahat abang muna...  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Oct 27, 2004 at 11:41 AM
Seems everyone wants it safe.  Am I right to say there's no PinoyDVD member who owns a diamond 9 yet? (Except chatstix above you will yet buy one)  Di sapat na 2004 Product of the Year siya by What Hi-Fi.  ;D

exactly my reason why i'm gonna start with the 9.1 coz it was awarded 2004 Product of the Year by What Hi-Fi mag.  :)

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 27, 2004 at 11:44 AM
Uy! may matapang na mama na bibili ng 9.1 ;D Congrats in Advance Chatstix!

Post mo agad reviews, siguradong may mga susunuran na nyan >:D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 27, 2004 at 12:15 PM
sir chat.... good luck! review agad ha. you might be opening the pandoras  box in pdvd...... sunodsunod na to! :o >:D

SARS here it comes! ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 27, 2004 at 12:19 PM
sir chat.... good luck! review agad ha. you might be opening the pandoras  box in pdvd...... sunodsunod na to! :o >:D

SARS here it comes! ;D

hehehe...dami rin nag-aantay ng review...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 27, 2004 at 12:39 PM
isa ka na ata don pre e.... kaw kasi nagmadaling kumuha ng 8 series.....  d sana ikaw yong magbibigay ng review ngayon!

 ;D ahahaha.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Oct 27, 2004 at 01:20 PM
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Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 27, 2004 at 02:18 PM
isa ka na ata don pre e.... kaw kasi nagmadaling kumuha ng 8 series.....  d sana ikaw yong magbibigay ng review ngayon!

 ;D ahahaha.

Hehehe....okay lang yun pre...i-demote ko na lang sa sala yung 8 kasama nung samsung na useless..  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 27, 2004 at 02:53 PM
OT sir control, may samsung bang useless? ??? ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 27, 2004 at 03:01 PM
OT sir control, may samsung bang useless? ??? ;D

Hehehe.. OT nga pero...yung DVD Player ko kasi DVD-E318 ayaw mag-play ng Region 1 na DVD. Nde ko tuloy mapanuod yung mga padala sa akin mga DVDs ng cousin ko. At ala rin akong makitang code sa Net...hay useless talaga... >:(

Sorry ulit sa OT...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 27, 2004 at 03:09 PM
useless nga yan ;D baka meron ditong marunong mag-ayos nyan try mo.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 27, 2004 at 03:23 PM
useless nga yan ;D baka meron ditong marunong mag-ayos nyan try mo.

hehehe..yup nag-iwan na ako ng post yun sa branded dvd players..anywayz pag nag-mura na yung series 9 malamang makasama nitong samsung yung mga wharfs 8 ko... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 27, 2004 at 03:27 PM
wag mo na kasing hintayin ang reviews.... bili na! >:D >:D kaw din baka maubusan ka ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 27, 2004 at 03:39 PM
wag mo na kasing hintayin ang reviews.... bili na! >:D >:D kaw din baka maubusan ka ;D

heheh..nde pa kaya koya... unti pa ang breads para sa 9..  ;D..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: PLiSKiN on Oct 27, 2004 at 04:02 PM
baka bumili ako mamaya ng 9.1. eto na muna siguro ang simula since di pa available ang 9.6 at 5k lang ang binigay ni esmi...hehehehe

present setup ko ngayon is 8.4, diamond center sa harap at 8.2 ang rears. HK230 ang avr.

compare ko ang 9.1 at 8.2. post ko bukas ang findings.
cge sir hntayin nmin bukas review mo sir... parang gusto ko na rin kc bumili  ;D buti n lng nde ako nkbili kahapon (nde ko kc na-audition e) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 27, 2004 at 04:32 PM
Quote from: Pliskin on Today at 04:02:28pm
cge sir hntayin nmin bukas review mo sir... parang gusto ko na rin kc bumili   buti n lng nde ako nkbili kahapon (nde ko kc na-audition e)

Product of the Year yan sir kaya bili bili na! >:D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Oct 27, 2004 at 05:29 PM
Tsk............. Dami pa kwentuhan, Bili na kasi at para mapakinggan na yan sa session.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 27, 2004 at 09:11 PM
Tsk............. Dami pa kwentuhan, Bili na kasi at para mapakinggan na yan sa session.  ;D ;D ;D

heheh...ayan nagalit na si Master kimpao  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Oct 27, 2004 at 09:31 PM
sama ako sa session ha! hehehe ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Oct 28, 2004 at 12:15 AM
went to spectra this evening (around 7:15pm), and luckily patapos na yung bumibili ng subwoofer when i got there. nakadisplay na (out of the box) yung 9.1, 9.3, and 9.5. so i told jim and jose that i would like to audition the 9.1 and if possible also the 9.5.

jose was the one who assisted me since jim is busy attending to the payment of the customer who bought d subwoofer.

please be aware that this mini-review is subjective (what i consider good might be bad to some and vice versa). moreover, i'm not one of those lucky ones who's gifted with a "golden" audiophile ear.

9.1 vs. 8.1: hooked up to an hk130 avr with setting surround off (sound output is only on the left and right speakers), test  cd is the audiophile voices 2 (fortunately i also have this cd at home). mas ok ang labas ng music, mas swabe at mas clear ang dating on the 9.1 as against the 8.1. Napansin ko lang na medyo malakas ang treble sa 8.1, although i like the treble on the 9.1 kasi tamang tama lang at natural ang dating. mas refined at solid ang bass output sa 9.1 too. pasensiya na at di ko alam talaga mga audiophile terms with regards to evaluating speaker sound production. sa limang kanta on the voice 2 cd, the 9.1 comes out the winner for me.

9.5: dito ako na-impress talaga. when i heard this speaker perform i have decided not to wait for the 9.6 anymore. di pa siya broken in, pero hanep ang tunog. i have decided not to wait for the 9.6 coz i think overkill na masyado kasi sa bedroom lang naman ang setup ko. i really can't elaborate further, basta ang bottomline: for a P12,500 speaker, sulit na sulit ito.

Sorry talaga mga pare ko if medyo malabo ang review ko ha. To conclude, 9.1 is better than 8.1 (for me) and 9.5 is impressive. So kayo na bahala manghula kung anong speaker ang binili ko  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Oct 28, 2004 at 01:36 AM
Sorry talaga mga pare ko if medyo malabo ang review ko ha. To conclude, 9.1 is better than 8.1 (for me) and 9.5 is impressive. So kayo na bahala manghula kung anong speaker ang binili ko  ;D

pareho.  :o ;D ;D ;D ahehehehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Oct 28, 2004 at 06:17 AM
went to spectra this evening (around 7:15pm), and luckily patapos na yung bumibili ng subwoofer when i got there. nakadisplay na (out of the box) yung 9.1, 9.3, and 9.5. so i told jim and jose that i would like to audition the 9.1 and if possible also the 9.5.

jose was the one who assisted me since jim is busy attending to the payment of the customer who bought d subwoofer.

please be aware that this mini-review is subjective (what i consider good might be bad to some and vice versa). moreover, i'm not one of those lucky ones who's gifted with a "golden" audiophile ear.

9.1 vs. 8.1: hooked up to an hk130 avr with setting surround off (sound output is only on the left and right speakers), test  cd is the audiophile voices 2 (fortunately i also have this cd at home). mas ok ang labas ng music, mas swabe at mas clear ang dating on the 9.1 as against the 8.1. Napansin ko lang na medyo malakas ang treble sa 8.1, although i like the treble on the 9.1 kasi tamang tama lang at natural ang dating. mas refined at solid ang bass output sa 9.1 too. pasensiya na at di ko alam talaga mga audiophile terms with regards to evaluating speaker sound production. sa limang kanta on the voice 2 cd, the 9.1 comes out the winner for me.

9.5: dito ako na-impress talaga. when i heard this speaker perform i have decided not to wait for the 9.6 anymore. di pa siya broken in, pero hanep ang tunog. i have decided not to wait for the 9.6 coz i think overkill na masyado kasi sa bedroom lang naman ang setup ko. i really can't elaborate further, basta ang bottomline: for a P12,500 speaker, sulit na sulit ito.

Sorry talaga mga pare ko if medyo malabo ang review ko ha. To conclude, 9.1 is better than 8.1 (for me) and 9.5 is impressive. So kayo na bahala manghula kung anong speaker ang binili ko  ;D

nice review sir ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ronjet on Oct 28, 2004 at 07:47 AM
sir reviews po sa 9.5 pa...ehehe...kung sino pa ppo mga bibili........ :)

mga sirs..hehe..sir kimpao..sir hans...sir control..sir vhong..sir punk..sir chat...sir cire...hehe....parang alam ko na yang sars na yan..hehe..newbie pa lang po ako sir...sana di ko makuha yang sars..hehe..mahirap pala magkaron niyan... ;)

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 28, 2004 at 07:57 AM
went to spectra this evening (around 7:15pm), and luckily patapos na yung bumibili ng subwoofer when i got there. nakadisplay na (out of the box) yung 9.1, 9.3, and 9.5. so i told jim and jose that i would like to audition the 9.1 and if possible also the 9.5.

jose was the one who assisted me since jim is busy attending to the payment of the customer who bought d subwoofer.

please be aware that this mini-review is subjective (what i consider good might be bad to some and vice versa). moreover, i'm not one of those lucky ones who's gifted with a "golden" audiophile ear.

9.1 vs. 8.1: hooked up to an hk130 avr with setting surround off (sound output is only on the left and right speakers), test  cd is the audiophile voices 2 (fortunately i also have this cd at home). mas ok ang labas ng music, mas swabe at mas clear ang dating on the 9.1 as against the 8.1. Napansin ko lang na medyo malakas ang treble sa 8.1, although i like the treble on the 9.1 kasi tamang tama lang at natural ang dating. mas refined at solid ang bass output sa 9.1 too. pasensiya na at di ko alam talaga mga audiophile terms with regards to evaluating speaker sound production. sa limang kanta on the voice 2 cd, the 9.1 comes out the winner for me.

9.5: dito ako na-impress talaga. when i heard this speaker perform i have decided not to wait for the 9.6 anymore. di pa siya broken in, pero hanep ang tunog. i have decided not to wait for the 9.6 coz i think overkill na masyado kasi sa bedroom lang naman ang setup ko. i really can't elaborate further, basta ang bottomline: for a P12,500 speaker, sulit na sulit ito.

Sorry talaga mga pare ko if medyo malabo ang review ko ha. To conclude, 9.1 is better than 8.1 (for me) and 9.5 is impressive. So kayo na bahala manghula kung anong speaker ang binili ko  ;D

Hay sa wakas may nag-post na rin ng review.... sana may mag-post din ng review about 9.6 vs. 9.5..  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 28, 2004 at 07:59 AM
sir reviews po sa 9.5 pa...ehehe...kung sino pa ppo mga bibili........ :)

mga sirs..hehe..sir kimpao..sir hans...sir control..sir vhong..sir punk..sir chat...sir cire...hehe....parang alam ko na yang sars na yan..hehe..newbie pa lang po ako sir...sana di ko makuha yang sars..hehe..mahirap pala magkaron niyan... ;)



Nakow Sir..hirap umiwas dyan lalo na ngayong panahon ng 13month..nyahahaha...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: PLiSKiN on Oct 28, 2004 at 08:55 AM
Quote
went to spectra this evening (around 7:15pm), and luckily patapos na yung bumibili ng subwoofer when i got there. nakadisplay na (out of the box) yung 9.1, 9.3, and 9.5. so i told jim and jose that i would like to audition the 9.1 and if possible also the 9.5.

jose was the one who assisted me since jim is busy attending to the payment of the customer who bought d subwoofer.

please be aware that this mini-review is subjective (what i consider good might be bad to some and vice versa). moreover, i'm not one of those lucky ones who's gifted with a "golden" audiophile ear.

9.1 vs. 8.1: hooked up to an hk130 avr with setting surround off (sound output is only on the left and right speakers), test  cd is the audiophile voices 2 (fortunately i also have this cd at home). mas ok ang labas ng music, mas swabe at mas clear ang dating on the 9.1 as against the 8.1. Napansin ko lang na medyo malakas ang treble sa 8.1, although i like the treble on the 9.1 kasi tamang tama lang at natural ang dating. mas refined at solid ang bass output sa 9.1 too. pasensiya na at di ko alam talaga mga audiophile terms with regards to evaluating speaker sound production. sa limang kanta on the voice 2 cd, the 9.1 comes out the winner for me.

9.5: dito ako na-impress talaga. when i heard this speaker perform i have decided not to wait for the 9.6 anymore. di pa siya broken in, pero hanep ang tunog. i have decided not to wait for the 9.6 coz i think overkill na masyado kasi sa bedroom lang naman ang setup ko. i really can't elaborate further, basta ang bottomline: for a P12,500 speaker, sulit na sulit ito.

Sorry talaga mga pare ko if medyo malabo ang review ko ha. To conclude, 9.1 is better than 8.1 (for me) and 9.5 is impressive. So kayo na bahala manghula kung anong speaker ang binili ko
tnx sa review sir!!! may nkita po b kyong 9.4 n nklabas. ung pumunta kc ako 9.3 lng ung nklabas na pede i-audition tpos walang pang mag-sesetup kaya nde ko rin na-audition :'( ... to all gurus out there... pareho lng po b preformance ng 9.1 & 9.4 since pareho lng sila ng specs??? tia po ulit  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 28, 2004 at 08:55 AM
Hay naku! kung maghihintayan kayo ng magagandang reviews dito baka Diamond 10 na nakadisplay sa Spectra nyan ;D ;D ;D it is better to audition the gears than to wait for good reviews.... kayo ang makikinig nyan hindi ang nag rereview Hahahaha! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 28, 2004 at 08:59 AM
bossing,

magkaiba ang tunog ng bookshelf kaysa sa floorstander, mas malakas ang bass ng floorstander
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Oct 28, 2004 at 09:43 AM
Hay naku! kung maghihintayan kayo ng magagandang reviews dito baka Diamond 10 na nakadisplay sa Spectra nyan ;D ;D ;D it is better to audition the gears than to wait for good reviews.... kayo ang makikinig nyan hindi ang nag rereview Hahahaha! ;D ;D

korekek! kasama naman sa trabaho nila para makabenta ang pag entertain sa customer na gusto magpa audition. tandaan nyo, pera nyo yang gagastusin nyo at kayo ang makikinig... kaya huwag mahiya magpa-audition. i remembered when i was auditioning for an hk unit, kinuha pa nila sa stockroom ang 8.4 kasi yun ang speakers ko. naka staple pa yung box. wala akong pambili that time, pero wala naman akong naging problema nung nagpa audition ako. di naman ako na-pressure nila to buy it. so far the best mag audition sa spectra at sights & sounds. kaya punta na kayo at mag audition dun, then post nyo ang assessment nyo dito.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: PLiSKiN on Oct 28, 2004 at 09:46 AM
Quote
bossing,

magkaiba ang tunog ng bookshelf kaysa sa floorstander, mas malakas ang bass ng floorstander
tnx! sir pero un lng b ang difference nila?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 28, 2004 at 10:08 AM

 tnx! sir pero un lng b ang difference nila?

pati price syempre..  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Oct 28, 2004 at 10:10 AM
Hay naku! kung maghihintayan kayo ng magagandang reviews dito baka Diamond 10 na nakadisplay sa Spectra nyan ;D ;D ;D it is better to audition the gears than to wait for good reviews.... kayo ang makikinig nyan hindi ang nag rereview Hahahaha! ;D ;D

tama ka sir! baka nga hanggang 15 umabot tayo dito eh ;D sir chatstix congrats on your new speaker..sana marinig din namin..hehehe...hula ko pareho nyo binili...hehehehe ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mYKi on Oct 28, 2004 at 10:39 AM
I will audition the 9.1's with a friend later during lunch break.  I can't wait!

Anyway, you might want to check out a review of the 9.1 here

http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=29993.0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 28, 2004 at 11:04 AM
pliskin,

with the same brand of speakers, siguro bass lang nagkaiba. pero if you will compare it with other brands ibang usapan na yan sir there will definitely have  sonic difference. ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 28, 2004 at 11:18 AM
pliskin,

with the same brand of speakers, siguro bass lang nagkaiba. pero if you will compare it with other brands ibang usapan na yan sir there will definitely have  sonic difference. ;)

Yup..and this is what I am afraid of..baka mamaya not worthy naman yung price ng 9.5/9.6 e di much better if I can get some other brands with the same price range but with better sound quality output..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 28, 2004 at 12:29 PM

tnx sa review sir!!! may nkita po b kyong 9.4 n nklabas. ung pumunta kc ako 9.3 lng ung nklabas na pede i-audition tpos walang pang mag-sesetup kaya nde ko rin na-audition :'( ... to all gurus out there... pareho lng po b preformance ng 9.1 & 9.4 since pareho lng sila ng specs??? tia po ulit  :)

Bro,

Meron syempre bigger sound yun floorstander compare to bookshelf but depend sa room mo kung small room mas ok bookshelf pero kung large room sure ako floorstander naman..iba din imaging ng bookshelf to floorstand models minsan naman laman sa mids ang bookshelf in moderate volume..  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 28, 2004 at 12:31 PM


korekek! kasama naman sa trabaho nila para makabenta ang pag entertain sa customer na gusto magpa audition. tandaan nyo, pera nyo yang gagastusin nyo at kayo ang makikinig... kaya huwag mahiya magpa-audition. i remembered when i was auditioning for an hk unit, kinuha pa nila sa stockroom ang 8.4 kasi yun ang speakers ko. naka staple pa yung box. wala akong pambili that time, pero wala naman akong naging problema nung nagpa audition ako. di naman ako na-pressure nila to buy it. so far the best mag audition sa spectra at sights & sounds. kaya punta na kayo at mag audition dun, then post nyo ang assessment nyo dito.

Pre Congrats sa Diamond 9.1 mo!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: odyopayl on Oct 28, 2004 at 12:50 PM
I will audition the 9.1's with a friend later during lunch break. I can't wait!

Anyway, you might want to check out a review of the 9.1 here

http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=29993.0

Thanks myki! Nice compilation very informative! I'm planning to put Diamond 9.1 set-up im my  bedroom using solid-state set-up and Planning to start with Audience 42 as my alternative speaker. I love the laidback sound of this Dyn speakers it's another experience!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Oct 28, 2004 at 01:23 PM
how much yung diamond 9.1?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Oct 28, 2004 at 01:29 PM
how much yung diamond 9.1?

most stores carrying the wharfedale brand of speakers sells it for P5,500.00.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mYKi on Oct 28, 2004 at 02:21 PM
I just came from Spectra with my friend. Thanks Jim for the great service once more.

I really wanted to like this speaker since for the price, it's a no-brainer. I plan to use this for bedroom speakers.

We listened to the 9.1s using a highly awarded NAD C542 cd player (which I used to have and still plan to buy by Christmas) and the HK 130 AVR. We listened using the Audiophile Voices II cd.

Our immediate impression was that it didn't have bass. Looking at the spec sheet, it should reach down to 50Hz but it didn't sound that way. The highs of the 9.1s were also incomplete. It sounded veiled. It was definitely missing something up there. The vocals were excellent and quite enjoyable to listen to. I used to have the Diamond 8.1s and I would have to say that I liked that one better since that had a better low-end.

I was disappointed. I had to take the MRT from Ortigas during my lunch break, just to listen to this and I was expecting more. We then asked Jim to play the 9.3s. These were bookshelves as well but a lot bigger. The woofer is even bigger (I think) than the B&W 602S3.

With the 9.3s, the treble sound came out. I wonder why this had more detail since I assume that it had the same tweeter as the 9.1s. Maybe the 9.1s were not broken-in yet. The mids of the 9.3s seem the same, but again, the low-end bass was not there. It had more bass than the 9.1s but I would expect more just by the size of the woofers.

They have a Monitor Audio Bronze 2 at the store and I am certain that that speaker would sound a lot better than the Diamond 9.1 or 9.3. But of course, it is also a lot more expensive. If you plan to audition at Spectra, listen to the B2 also just so that you can have a comparison.

Conclusion:

I know the sound of the NAD C542 and the Audiophile Voices CD very much and I was very disappointed with what I heard. Right now, I'm thinking that it could possible be the HK AVR 130. Maybe it was not powerful enough for the 6-ohm Diamonds. It could also be break-in since I know that kevlar cones take a long time to burn-in.

After our audition, we went to the next shop, (I forgot the name) the one which sells Rotel and B&W and where Ed is the shop owner. They were also selling the 9.1s and they had it on display. We said, "meron ka rin palang 9.1s. What Hi-Fi product of the year iyan!" and you know what he said... "Ang pangit tumunog."  Medyo natawa kami sa reply niya since he was selling it! also for P5,500.

ANYWAY, please don't let this review stop you from auditioning the speakers. Go to Spectra, listen to the Diamonds, and write your own review here. But for me, my search for a bedroom speaker less than P10,000 goes on.

I will audition the Diamond 9's again at Sights and Sounds in Shangri-La. Maybe I will have a better experience there.

But wait! P5,500 for a pair of speakers?! Sobrang mura talaga and maybe I'm expecting it to sound like a P10,000 or even P30,000 speaker. Besides, what other P5k speakers around are there that can already sound a bit audiophile-like.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 28, 2004 at 02:39 PM
Just the same, maybe we are expecting too much for these series...I dunno....we still have to find that out ..... ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jcob on Oct 28, 2004 at 04:10 PM
Just the same, maybe we are expecting too much for these series...I dunno....we still have to find that out ..... ;)

IMO, a review comparing the diamomd 9 to its predecessor (diamond 8) would be enough. Sa looks, boto ako dito sa bagong diamond. Pogi talaga. I don't know with the sound, if it's better than the diamond 8. Better nga ba? Pareho lang? Will the sonic difference be enough to replace your existing D8(for diamond 8 users)? How about when compared to wharfedale Evo series (considering their cabinet construction are the same)... ano nga difference ng evo sa 9 series?

dunno also..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Oct 28, 2004 at 04:57 PM
Kayo naman... hintayin niyo muna mag brake-in in 4 years para bumukas ang tunog.  ;D

j/k!  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 28, 2004 at 04:59 PM
bias ka slayer hahahahaha ;D :P

na-audition mo na ba pre tong 9 series?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Oct 28, 2004 at 05:02 PM
Pre,

Di pa... medyo lay-low muna ako sa ht/audio ngayon.  :P  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Oct 28, 2004 at 05:05 PM
Pre,

Di pa... medyo lay-low muna ako sa ht/audio ngayon.  :P  ;)

Pre kaya baised yan dahil nagpipigil yan. Ahehehehe

BTW, master islayer, ok na ba yung pinadala ko na docs last week
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 28, 2004 at 05:06 PM
Kaya pala lay-low ka din mag post dito pati sa mga session ;D :P ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sebman on Oct 28, 2004 at 05:07 PM
Pre,

Di pa... medyo lay-low muna ako sa ht/audio ngayon.  :P  ;)

pre nag-iipon na ng pang-tubo?  ;D  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Oct 28, 2004 at 05:14 PM
Nice review Sir mYKi.

Quote from: mYKi
Our immediate impression was that it didn't have bass. Looking at the spec sheet, it should reach down to 50Hz but it didn't sound that way. The highs of the 9.1s were also incomplete. It sounded veiled. It was definitely missing something up there. The vocals were excellent and quite enjoyable to listen to. I used to have the Diamond 8.1s and I would have to say that I liked that one better since that had a better low-end.

did you consider where they placed the speakers when u auditioned it (eg. the proximity of it's back side to the wall behind it)? did they put it on a stable and solid speaker stand? i read on the manual that was lying on the table there that to get more bass its back must be situated near the wall but not too near coz the bass will sound "boomy".


Quote from: mYKi
With the 9.3s, the treble sound came out. I wonder why this had more detail since I assume that it had the same tweeter as the 9.1s. Maybe the 9.1s were not broken-in yet. The mids of the 9.3s seem the same, but again, the low-end bass was not there. It had more bass than the 9.1s but I would expect more just by the size of the woofers.

i also noticed this when i auditioned the diamond 9.5. mas makalansing at defined ang treble as compared to that of the 9.1's eh kung titingnan mo same size ang material ng tweeters nila. ang pinagkaiba lang, i noticed and i'm not sure if this made the difference, is yung housing ng tweeter. regarding sa bass and mids sa 9.5 eh no brainer na kung alin ang mas maganda coz the 9.5 has separate drivers for this. sana audition mo na rin ang 9.5, wala ka na bang nakita dun na display? hehehehe  ;)  ;)  ;)

Quote from: mYKi
After our audition, we went to the next shop, (I forgot the name) the one which sells Rotel and B&W and where Ed is the shop owner. They were also selling the 9.1s and they had it on display. We said, "meron ka rin palang 9.1s. What Hi-Fi product of the year iyan!" and you know what he said... "Ang pangit tumunog."  Medyo natawa kami sa reply niya since he was selling it! also for P5,500.

i think the shop you're referring to is Sound Dimension which is beside Odyssey record bar. i also went there yesterday, same price, pero 9.1 lang meron sila. ganun din ang sabi sa akin pero not to the extent na sinabi nya na "Ang pangit tumunog." when i went to spectra and told that to jim, he coyly replied (not his exact words ha, but similar to this effect) "Baka naman sira na ang tenga nila." or "Baka naman tenga nila ang pangit." hehehehe

anyways, my hats off to you for the effort you did to audition it and the review you shared. o, yung iba naman jan ang mag audition (libre naman) at share nyo dito  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Oct 28, 2004 at 05:15 PM


pre nag-iipon na ng pang-tubo?  ;D  ;)

master slayer, di ka kaya tubuhin ni misis niyan kung sakali?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Chito C. on Oct 28, 2004 at 05:35 PM
kakapunta ko lang sa spectra. Sino bumili nung 9.5? Di ko tuloy na test.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 28, 2004 at 07:35 PM
kakapunta ko lang sa spectra. Sino bumili nung 9.5? Di ko tuloy na test.


Congrats pala ulit Chatstix 9.5 and 9.1 he got it from Spectra.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 28, 2004 at 07:41 PM


ano nga difference ng evo sa 9 series?

dunno also..


Bro, was able to audition the Diamond 9.3 notice that IMHO almost same na sila in MID department nun EVo 30 ko (nun di pa broken in EVo ) as for high can't tell since di pa breakin yun Diamond.. but according sa spec mas mataas yun Diamond 25Hz compare to Evo 20Hz lang.. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 28, 2004 at 07:49 PM
Guys,

I remember dati when i auditioned Wharf Evo 8 naka hook up sa NAD power amp and the sound is also as MYki mention roll off high and little bass pero yun vocals ok naman pero minsan muddy so i ask Jim to switch amps to HK.....ayun nagiba sound... tapos next audition ko Tube na dala ko... :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 29, 2004 at 07:39 AM
hmmm...mayroon na po bang naka-try sa inyo using different receiver during audition like yamaha or onkyo or marrantz?  ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Oct 29, 2004 at 07:48 AM
meron na po bang nakakita or available na po kaya ibang color, other than black? cguro mas gwapo pag wood color. ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 29, 2004 at 08:28 AM
meron na po bang nakakita or available na po kaya ibang color, other than black? cguro mas gwapo pag wood color. ;)

Wala pa ata ibang color pero sana meron na bago mag Dec.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 29, 2004 at 08:59 AM
walastix talaga! dalawang diamond 9 na pala ang nakawala sa cuadra ;D ;D kung sino man yung bumili nun, congrats at sana parinig mo naman sa amin ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Oct 29, 2004 at 09:09 AM
walastix talaga! dalawang diamond 9 na pala ang nakawala sa cuadra ;D ;D kung sino man yung bumili nun, congrats at sana parinig mo naman sa amin ;D

agree!!! parinig naman dyan....hehehhehe ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimosabe on Oct 29, 2004 at 09:22 AM
Sa nakabili ng 9.5, ano difference ng 9.5 sa 8.4? Malaki ba? Im planning to buy 8.4 kasi pero hold ko muna dahil release na ang Diamond 9 series.

Thanks and congrats.

 8)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Oct 29, 2004 at 09:28 AM
Congrats pala ulit Chatstix 9.5 and 9.1 he got it from Spectra.. ;D

sir, isa lang dun kinuha ko. actually, i got the 9.1 na, nakalabas na ako ng parking when it suddenly hit me na it's d 9.5 i really liked. since i got 8.2 na as my surrounds which is more than adequate in its purpose. my original plan was to wait for the 9.6, and start building up my 5.1 series 9 setup by first buying the 9.1. and since i was impressed by the 9.5 and thought i should've bought it instead of the 9.1. gulo no?

so, i stopped at the entrace of park square one fronting the entrance to glorietta and i told my wife to go to spectra again and ask if i can make an exchange, add na lang ako ng 7k. Spectra agreed, my wife withdrew some more cash, and i waited in my car (mahal bayad ng parking kung mag park ulit ako...hehehe. besides closing time na rin nun). therefore, isa lang ang nabili ko hindi dalawa.  ;)

no regrets whatsoever when i made the exchange and my wife told me that it was really a good improvement. her exact words: "malinis at pino ang boses", "distinct and detailed ang sound", "ganda ng tunog". next item to buy: diamond 9 center.cm. kelan kaya magiging available ito?  ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 29, 2004 at 09:32 AM


sir, isa lang dun kinuha ko. actually, i got the 9.1 na, nakalabas na ako ng parking when it suddenly hit me na it's d 9.5 i really liked. since i got 8.2 na as my surrounds which is more than adequate in its purpose. my original plan was to wait for the 9.6, and start building up my 5.1 series 9 setup by first buying the 9.1. and since i was impressed by the 9.5 and thought i should've bought it instead of the 9.1. gulo no?

so, i stopped at the entrace of park square one fronting the entrance to glorietta and i told my wife to go to spectra again and ask if i can make an exchange, add na lang ako ng 7k. Spectra agreed, my wife withdrew some more cash, and i waited in my car (mahal bayad ng parking kung mag park ulit ako...hehehe. besides closing time na rin nun). therefore, isa lang ang nabili ko hindi dalawa.  ;)

no regrets whatsoever when i made the exchange and my wife told me that it was really a good improvement. her exact words: "malinis at pino ang boses", "distinct and detailed ang sound", "ganda ng tunog". next item to buy: diamond 9 center.cm. kelan kaya magiging available ito?  ???


Guys,

Ayan umamin na hehehehe  Congrats bro!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 29, 2004 at 09:37 AM


sir, isa lang dun kinuha ko. actually, i got the 9.1 na, nakalabas na ako ng parking when it suddenly hit me na it's d 9.5 i really liked. since i got 8.2 na as my surrounds which is more than adequate in its purpose. my original plan was to wait for the 9.6, and start building up my 5.1 series 9 setup by first buying the 9.1. and since i was impressed by the 9.5 and thought i should've bought it instead of the 9.1. gulo no?

so, i stopped at the entrace of park square one fronting the entrance to glorietta and i told my wife to go to spectra again and ask if i can make an exchange, add na lang ako ng 7k. Spectra agreed, my wife withdrew some more cash, and i waited in my car (mahal bayad ng parking kung mag park ulit ako...hehehe. besides closing time na rin nun). therefore, isa lang ang nabili ko hindi dalawa.  ;)

no regrets whatsoever when i made the exchange and my wife told me that it was really a good improvement. her exact words: "malinis at pino ang boses", "distinct and detailed ang sound", "ganda ng tunog". next item to buy: diamond 9 center.cm. kelan kaya magiging available ito?  ???


Ayus..congratz dude....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mYKi on Oct 29, 2004 at 09:42 AM
did you consider where they placed the speakers when u auditioned it (eg. the proximity of it's back side to the wall behind it)? did they put it on a stable and solid speaker stand? i read on the manual that was lying on the table there that to get more bass its back must be situated near the wall but not too near coz the bass will sound "boomy".

i also noticed this when i auditioned the diamond 9.5. mas makalansing at defined ang treble as compared to that of the 9.1's eh kung titingnan mo same size ang material ng tweeters nila. ang pinagkaiba lang, i noticed and i'm not sure if this made the difference, is yung housing ng tweeter. regarding sa bass and mids sa 9.5 eh no brainer na kung alin ang mas maganda coz the 9.5 has separate drivers for this. sana audition mo na rin ang 9.5, wala ka na bang nakita dun na display? hehehehe  ;)  ;)  ;)

i think the shop you're referring to is Sound Dimension which is beside Odyssey record bar. i also went there yesterday, same price, pero 9.1 lang meron sila. ganun din ang sabi sa akin pero not to the extent na sinabi nya na "Ang pangit tumunog." when i went to spectra and told that to jim, he coyly replied (not his exact words ha, but similar to this effect) "Baka naman sira na ang tenga nila." or "Baka naman tenga nila ang pangit." hehehehe

anyways, my hats off to you for the effort you did to audition it and the review you shared. o, yung iba naman jan ang mag audition (libre naman) at share nyo dito  :)
It was around 1.5m away from the backwall. I'm sure the anemic bass was also because of that. The backwall of Spectra has various audio gears so that also acts as a sound-absorption object. That's why I'd like to also audition the 9.1s in a different place. Jim placed it on top of a floorstander and it looked very stable naman.

Yup! Sound Dimension nga yung place. I guess kaya ganoon ang reply niya about the 9.1s since close customer niya yung friend ko. Doon bumili yung friend ko ng lahat ng gear niya.... until I exposed my friend to my Marantz.  :-)  Sabi kasi ng shopowner doon, na pangit daw ang Marantz, mas maganda daw yung Onkyo na binibenta niya. Ayun! Napabili siya ng Onkyo. Noong pina-home-audition ko yung Marantz ko eh binenta niya kaagad yung Onkyo niya. hehehe

So in other words, yung dealer sa SD, eh solid promoter talaga ng B&W and Rotel and sasabihin niya na pangit na lahat. I couldn't even imagine that he said na bug-bog sarada daw ang Monitor Audio B2 sa B&W DM303. Eh kakabili ko lang ng B2 para sa bookstore ng kapatid ko.

Actually, a good way for us to know the capabilities of the 9.1s, is kung meron pwedeng magpahiram sa akin ng 9.1s and kabit ko sa bahay to my system. Kahit na half-day lang.   :)

Congrats sa 9.5's mo. Bilib ako doon sa SARS incubation period mo. Mas mabilis pa sa alas-singko.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Oct 29, 2004 at 10:02 AM
Congrats sa 9.5's mo. Bilib ako doon sa SARS incubation period mo. Mas mabilis pa sa alas-singko.  :)

yeah, panibagong strain ata ito eh. hehehe.  pero umnom na ako ng serum, would last 1 year before maapektuhan ulit ng sars  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: PLiSKiN on Oct 29, 2004 at 10:17 AM
mga sirs... gaano b dpat kalakas pg break-in period itong mga speaker n ito? im using hk-130. & gaano po katagal ang break-in period. tnX!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iceman90a on Oct 29, 2004 at 10:37 AM
moderate volume - di kumakalabog, break in time depends on usage, basta gamitin mo lang - mapapansin mo mas relaxed na tunog nya... yun pwede mo na ihataw ng malakas lakas ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Oct 29, 2004 at 10:49 AM


sir, isa lang dun kinuha ko. actually, i got the 9.1 na, nakalabas na ako ng parking when it suddenly hit me na it's d 9.5 i really liked. since i got 8.2 na as my surrounds which is more than adequate in its purpose. my original plan was to wait for the 9.6, and start building up my 5.1 series 9 setup by first buying the 9.1. and since i was impressed by the 9.5 and thought i should've bought it instead of the 9.1. gulo no?

so, i stopped at the entrace of park square one fronting the entrance to glorietta and i told my wife to go to spectra again and ask if i can make an exchange, add na lang ako ng 7k. Spectra agreed, my wife withdrew some more cash, and i waited in my car (mahal bayad ng parking kung mag park ulit ako...hehehe. besides closing time na rin nun). therefore, isa lang ang nabili ko hindi dalawa.  ;)

no regrets whatsoever when i made the exchange and my wife told me that it was really a good improvement. her exact words: "malinis at pino ang boses", "distinct and detailed ang sound", "ganda ng tunog". next item to buy: diamond 9 center.cm. kelan kaya magiging available ito?  ???


Wow, good for you chatstix and congrats.  I personally prefer floorstanders over bookshelfs on the same product line that share the same mid or tweets.  If the 9.5 costs less than P13,000 a pair, that's a real bargain considering that the net site I've visited lists its SRP as 350 pounds sterling.  What did you get, black or birch?  The birch looks nice to me.

(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/95.gif)

I just noticed its anechoic sensitivity is 86db/1watt/1meter.  You must have a really powerful amp to make it sing its best.  What amp are you using? 

I find it odd that the center speaker is not yet available.  I think they have 3 models for center, starting at 100 pounds.

(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/9_CM.gif)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 29, 2004 at 10:53 AM
mga sirs... gaano b dpat kalakas pg break-in period itong mga speaker n ito? im using hk-130. & gaano po katagal ang break-in period. tnX!

yung sa wharf ko, it took me approx. 1 week @ 8 - 9 hours/day with -30db volume on my yammie..  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Oct 29, 2004 at 11:06 AM
What did you get, black or birch?  The birch looks nice to me.

sir, we have no choice here at the moment since it's only black that's available here. but my wife said that she likes the black color more since it looks sexy and sophisticated and i agree with her ( i had a maple floorstanders before). but my first choice of color was the rosewood vinyl.

Quote from: av_phile1
I just noticed its anechoic sensitivity is 86db/1watt/1meter.  You must have a really powerful amp to make it sing its best.  What amp are you using? 

on the manual it's sensitivity rating is 88db (2.83V, 1M) <-- i really have no idea what it means or how to translate this in layman's term. on their brochure, it list the 9.5 as 88db sensitivity: 1W @ 1m. i'm using harman-kardon avr 230 and i noticed that it can drive the 9.5 easily as compared to the 86db floorstanders i have before.

Quote from: av_phile1
I find it odd that the center speaker is not yet available.  I think they have 3 models for center, starting at 100 pounds.

the only series 9 diamond center available here is the cs version, also available only in black. selling price here is P4,800.00.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Oct 29, 2004 at 11:09 AM
mga sirs... gaano b dpat kalakas pg break-in period itong mga speaker n ito? im using hk-130. & gaano po katagal ang break-in period. tnX!

I wouldn't want to question some wisdom often presented for speaker break-in.  In some of the forums I've visited, this is considered another snake oil.  It's possible there is some break-in considering that speakers are electro-mechanical devices; and any mechanical device can benefit from some break-in.  But I think the improvements are incremental, not dramatic as some would say.  A good speaker at the start is a good speaker all the way and a lousy one is just that.  NO break-in will ever make a lousy speaker out of the box sound better. The fact is, if the sound of new speakers impressed you as being better than your old, chances are they are indeed better.  If not, the break-in period will only make you more accustomed to the sound of the speaker.  I had a officemate who wasn't particularly impressed with his new speakers, except that it had nice reviews, good specs and  a lot more expensive than his old.  After six months of alleged break-in, he said he is now satisfied with them.  Since he still has his old speakers stashed in another room, I dared him to re-install his old speakers to compare.  That weekend, he did.  And it dawned on him that his old speakers were indeed much better.  The break-in period apparently made him simply accustomed to the new speakers.  The break-in period never made them any better.

That's ofcourse another experiential story in this hobby.  Not valid for everyone, for sure.  
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Oct 29, 2004 at 11:29 AM


sir, we have no choice here at the moment since it's only black that's available here. but my wife said that she likes the black color more since it looks sexy and sophisticated and i agree with her ( i had a maple floorstanders before). but my first choice of color was the rosewood vinyl.



on the manual it's sensitivity rating is 88db (2.83V, 1M) <-- i really have no idea what it means or how to translate this in layman's term. on their brochure, it list the 9.5 as 88db sensitivity: 1W @ 1m. i'm using harman-kardon avr 230 and i noticed that it can drive the 9.5 easily as compared to the 86db floorstanders i have before. 


the only series 9 diamond center available here is the cs version, also available only in black. selling price here is P4,800.00.


Well, black is a sophisticated color.  And quite useful.  They actually aid in making the speakers seem to disappear in a dark room.  ;D  I too have both black (front) and beige(back) of the same model. 

The website I visited had it rated at 86db.  But that's not a matter to quibble over.  Your HK is a most competent receiver to drive an 88db load.  2.83volts RMS is essentially the voltage that can deliver 1 watt across an 8-ohm load.  That's their measuring standard for speaker sensitivity.   You may want to check out the thread on Power vs Decibels for a more thorough discussion.  Suffice it to say that 88db is loud enough as 60db is the level of person-to-person conversation. And I would guess that the 9.5's 6-ohm rating somehow compensates for this low sensitivity as it should deliver slightly more watts for the same input. And the HK is a high-current gear known to deliver more current at loads lower than 8 ohms. 

Are you planning to get this center as well?  I think the CS is mid-priced among their center speakers.  The CM might be a better match to your 9.5.


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Oct 29, 2004 at 11:31 AM


yeah, panibagong strain ata ito eh. hehehe.  pero umnom na ako ng serum, would last 1 year before maapektuhan ulit ng sars  ;D

Walastik ka talaga Chatstix!  :o :o Congrats sir!....... Pakinig naman niyan.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Oct 29, 2004 at 11:39 AM

Are you planning to get this center as well?  I think the CS is mid-priced among their center speakers.  The CM might be a better match to your 9.5.


sir, the cm version is what i'll be buying. unfortunately, only the cs version is available here at the moment.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 29, 2004 at 11:42 AM


Walastik ka talaga Chatstix!  :o :o Congrats sir!....... Pakinig naman niyan.  ;D ;D


DOM kimpao,

So ano kukunin natin?  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Oct 29, 2004 at 11:43 AM


sir, the cm version is what i'll be buying. unfortunately, only the cs version is available here at the moment.

try listening in style at shang for other models of the 9 series or you can try the shop in shang which sells those B&W speakers (forgot the name).  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Oct 29, 2004 at 11:43 AM



DOM kimpao,

So ano kukunin natin?  ;)

Tadsulok, KOya.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Oct 29, 2004 at 11:43 AM
Walastik ka talaga Chatstix!  :o :o Congrats sir!....... Pakinig naman niyan.  ;D ;D

sir, medyo mahihirapan ako sa request nyo. nakalagay kasi sa room namin ni esmi ang setup and medyo sagrado kay misis on who can come inside our room. maybe if you could suggest a place on a weekend na malapit sa amin eh i could bring them speakers, gusto ko din matuto from u gurus on how to evaluate the sound and performance of speakers and much more about audio.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Oct 29, 2004 at 11:45 AM
Schedule mo lang sir at sama sama ka rin sa mga session.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Oct 29, 2004 at 11:47 AM
ok sir. just pm me the schedule of ur next sessions, and if i find it within my tolerable distance  from my home  :)  then i'll join and bring the 9.5's.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 29, 2004 at 11:48 AM


maybe if you could suggest a place on a weekend na malapit sa amin eh i could bring them speakers, gusto ko din matuto from u gurus on how to evaluate the sound and performance of speakers and much more about audio.

Sir gusto mo ba magka SARS?? sama ka minsan  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: akyatbundok on Oct 29, 2004 at 12:48 PM
ok yan sir chatstix, nabigyan mo ng diamond si misis.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Oct 29, 2004 at 01:10 PM


Sir gusto mo ba magka SARS?? sama ka minsan  ;D ;D ;D

KOya, wag mo naman takutin.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 29, 2004 at 01:14 PM


KOya, wag mo naman takutin.  ;D ;D

Oooopps di naman just a warning >:D >:D >:D..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 29, 2004 at 01:15 PM
walastix, sang araw lang ako mawala e ang saya saya n dito! fiesta na ba at my naka diamond 9 na e.

congrats sir chatixs, sana makasama ka ang in one of the sessions.......... sayang ang SARS.

hehehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Oct 29, 2004 at 01:52 PM
More than 300,000 members.  And only one owns a Diamond 9 so far.  May the tribe grow before the year ends.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 29, 2004 at 01:58 PM
More than 300,000 members.  And only one owns a Diamond 9 so far.  May the tribe grow before the year ends.  ;D


Wish wish too bro..  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: odyopayl on Oct 29, 2004 at 06:21 PM
That's ofcourse another experiential story in this hobby.  Not valid for everyone, for sure. 

Hahahaha! That's Audio politics Sir!!! Ako no comment!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audioslave on Oct 29, 2004 at 07:17 PM
haba agad ng thread na toh.  :o

basta yata bago... maganda!!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iceman90a on Oct 29, 2004 at 09:50 PM
di naman - pero pag bago, interesting ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 30, 2004 at 06:59 AM
di naman - pero pag bago, interesting ;D

Pag bago - Interesting lalo na kung affordable.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Oct 30, 2004 at 09:08 AM


sir, we have no choice here at the moment since it's only black that's available here. but my wife said that she likes the black color more since it looks sexy and sophisticated and i agree with her ( i had a maple floorstanders before). but my first choice of color was the rosewood vinyl.


Wala ba lavander si diamond 9?  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Oct 30, 2004 at 09:11 AM


I wouldn't want to question some wisdom often presented for speaker break-in.  In some of the forums I've visited, this is considered another snake oil.  It's possible there is some break-in considering that speakers are electro-mechanical devices; and any mechanical device can benefit from some break-in.  But I think the improvements are incremental, not dramatic as some would say.  A good speaker at the start is a good speaker all the way and a lousy one is just that.  NO break-in will ever make a lousy speaker out of the box sound better. The fact is, if the sound of new speakers impressed you as being better than your old, chances are they are indeed better.  If not, the break-in period will only make you more accustomed to the sound of the speaker.  I had a officemate who wasn't particularly impressed with his new speakers, except that it had nice reviews, good specs and  a lot more expensive than his old.  After six months of alleged break-in, he said he is now satisfied with them.  Since he still has his old speakers stashed in another room, I dared him to re-install his old speakers to compare.  That weekend, he did.  And it dawned on him that his old speakers were indeed much better.  The break-in period apparently made him simply accustomed to the new speakers.  The break-in period never made them any better.

That's ofcourse another experiential story in this hobby.  Not valid for everyone, for sure.  

Sir, sa GC, break-in kaagad yan!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 31, 2004 at 12:02 AM


Sir, sa GC, break-in kaagad yan!  ;D

There is one very effective way of doing it bro. Play your speakers like you stole them!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 31, 2004 at 01:06 PM
Now I'll first get some things out of the way. Special thanks to SpeactarAV for allowing a home audition of this wonderful speakers, thanks to Hans for transporting them and to Akyat for hosting the session. Wonderful people!

There were two models used, the 9.2 and the 9.4, unfortunately I was kinda late and was only able to listen to the floorstander for only a couple of songs, therefore I cannot give any accurate description of the 9.4. But I was able to inspect the units and it looks that the construction is really solid and those wonderful gold plated bi-wireable binding posts are very good in grasping bare wires and banana plugs.

But then again, the 9.2 is a different story, I was able to listen to it for at least 4 hours, and with several amps too. Now, it may seem to look like a sliced version of the 9.4, the 9.2 was impressive, the amount of highs was balanced, the mids are clear and like others say, crisp. For me the mids are in a way open and brings the song artist right in the middle of your room. A very surprising amount of bass is also packed in this model, for a bookshelf, I wasn't expecting such bass, but the sofa was shaking.  ;D Bi-wiring these bookshelfs also elevated the sound.

For me, the 9.2 is an impressive bookshelf, trully a cost-effective choice indeed.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/Dump/Wharf_9.jpg)

I won't go too much in the technicals of the setup but some of the gears used were:

AMX PP EL34 Tube Amp (Jetok)
Consonance M99 Tube Amp (Audioslave)
Tube Hybrid Gainclone Amp (Punk_kid)

AMX Tube Preamp with Phono (Kimpao)

I don't know the models of the cdp but they were Yamaha, Sony and Sansui cdp present. Also, Akyat's Technics SL-1200 was used as a source.

Again, thanks to Mr. SpectraAV for the trust.  :)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/Dump/M99.jpg)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: j_albert22 on Nov 01, 2004 at 09:38 AM
tama ka jo nakakamangha ika nga at very reasonable price pa sa halagang 7K (mali akala natin na 7plus  7 flat lang pala) :P
tube friendly pa di mahirap i drive ..............malamang hot cake na naman itong speaker na ito kaya c Kuya HANS muntik nang hindi ibinaba sa kotse hehehehe kaso takot lang kay..........................lam nyo na yon di alam kc kung pano ipapaliwanag hehehehe .........................kuya pis tayoooooooooo

btw thank uli sa SPECTRA sana may uulitin pang iba  ;D ;D ;D

pahabol thank din sa nag dala nang 8.3  kay BGA



isa pa maraming napahanga itong speaker na ito malamang meron sa mga nag punta kina akyat ang bibili nito this week lang kaya sa mga baguhan kung gusto nyo mapakinggan hehehe punta lang kayo sa SPECTRA park square  ;) ;) ;)  sipsip no   >:D >:D >:Dhehehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 01, 2004 at 03:33 PM
Ang bilis ng review ni Sir Jojo  ;D...

I would just like to add a little more technical specs with the shootout..Cables used were XLO, XLO Pro (Master Hans) and Analysis Plus (Sir Iceman)..Now you might be curious why I am saying this but as I have observed during the session, I have found out that speaker cables really make a difference...

Going back to the review, there were two new wharfedale speakers (Thanks to Spectra) namely 9.2 (bookshelf) and 9.4 (floorstander). 9.4 was the first to be auditioned and as hours went by, the sound slowly came out pretty good though bass was still a little boomy but I guess this is normal for it needs a little more break-in. In comparison with 8.3 what I have noticed about 9.4 are the binding posts position (sana medyo nakalubog din sya tulad nung dun sa 8.3 ewan ko pero ganito kasi yata ang design ng series 9) but this was overcomed by the new looks of the binding posts. The grill and the appearance also improved in 9.4 (nagmuha na syang sexy). For overall review on 9.4, I give it a 4 out of 5 stars.

After the 9.3 audition, 9.2 (bookshelf) was connected to the setup and after an hour or two the sound came out impressively..good balance of highs, mids, and lows..bass was not boomy. For a bookshelf to be this good is a steal considering its price. This could be the new front speakers you are looking for. I give 9.2 a 5 out of 5 stars.

Watch-out ayan na ang SARS...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Nov 01, 2004 at 06:30 PM
eto naman ang masasabi ko sa mga diamond 9 na pinakinggan namin:

For the 9.4, ang poooooogi na enclosure/design ;D..... but unfortunately hindi siya ganun ka impressive, boomy din yung bass nya para sa akin, sa laki ng sala ni akyat naging boomy pa siya ;D

As for the 9.2, di ko akalain na meron pala siyang tinatagong talento pag dating sa performance, saludo ko sa tunog nya, well balanced sound at matindi din yung bass output nya lalo na nung naka bi-wire ng XLO speaker wires.

Conclusion:

I still love my 8.3  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Salamat din pala sa SpectraAV for trusting us to home audition the speakers.... at salamat din sa mga nagdala ng gears, para ko na rin narinig yung buong setup ko ;D.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 01, 2004 at 07:37 PM
It just flashed in the left side of my brain regarding the boominess of the 9.4....... hindi kaya ganun tumunog yun dahil kailangan pang lagyan ng buhangin, semento, pebbles, marble tiles, etc. sa loob? Dba may tweak na nilalagyan ng sandbag sa loob yun speakers?

 ::)

Pero ganda talaga 9.2 hehehe

 ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Nov 01, 2004 at 09:55 PM
Pre,

8.3 parin ba kesa sa 9.4?

eto naman ang masasabi ko sa mga diamond 9 na pinakinggan namin:

For the 9.4, ang poooooogi na enclosure/design ;D..... but unfortunately hindi siya ganun ka impressive, boomy din yung bass nya para sa akin, sa laki ng sala ni akyat naging boomy pa siya ;D

As for the 9.2, di ko akalain na meron pala siyang tinatagong talento pag dating sa performance, saludo ko sa tunog nya, well balanced sound at matindi din yung bass output nya lalo na nung naka bi-wire ng XLO speaker wires.

Conclusion:

I still love my 8.3  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Salamat din pala sa SpectraAV for trusting us to home audition the speakers.... at salamat din sa mga nagdala ng gears, para ko na rin narinig yung buong setup ko ;D.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Nov 01, 2004 at 10:08 PM
sayang di ako nakapunta at napakinggan ang 9.2 paired with tube amps :-[ maybe the place at spectra is not really an ideal environment for auditioning so its good that a home audition was allowed. anyway at the price of 7k its a steal..;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 01, 2004 at 10:09 PM
sayang di ako nakapunta at napakinggan ang 9.2 paired with tube amps :-[ maybe the place at spectra is not really an ideal environment for auditioning so its good that a home audition was allowed. anyway at the price of 7k its a steal..;)

sayang nga at na-miss mo yun last session, ganda pa naman ng mga gears.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Nov 01, 2004 at 11:50 PM
Pre,

8.3 parin ba kesa sa 9.4?




9.2 pre!  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Nov 02, 2004 at 12:08 AM
It just flashed in the left side of my brain regarding the boominess of the 9.4....... hindi kaya ganun tumunog yun dahil kailangan pang lagyan ng buhangin, semento, pebbles, marble tiles, etc. sa loob? Dba may tweak na nilalagyan ng sandbag sa loob yun speakers?

 ::)

Pero ganda talaga 9.2 hehehe

 ;D


Doc, monumento kalalabasan niyan!  :o  ;D ;D

Masyado niyo naman kinawawa 9.4 ah!  IMHO, considering that the speakers were out of the box (sealed pa kamo), i'd say they are promising. Much exercise were still needed by the pair that was lent to hans by Spectra.  Bass was a bit boomy thus overpowering its mids and highs especially on those bass kicking tracks. Highs and Mids are there but the pair still needs to be broken-in.

The 9.2 was a different story, considering that these were bookshelf speakers. Bass was abundant yet tight, mids were open (after a couple of hours of exercise) highs were sparkling which somewhat surprised me as these were softdome tweeters. For the price, I'd say these babies can "spank the living day lights" out of those mid priced bookshelves, "Bang for The Buck" the speakers are worth it. 

KOya Hans,

Maraming salamat sa iyong tiyaga, pagka-ginoo at paghihirap sa pag dala ng mga bagong speakers! Sama na rin natin yung tapang ng apog sa pag-hiram ng speakers (biro lang, KOya!  ;D). Ahehehehehe ;D ;D

Maraming salamat din sa Spectra sa pagtitiwala niyo sa amin!  :D

Mga katoto! SARS!!!!!!!!!.............. Takbo na at baka maubusan ng Diamond 9 series!.........
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: PLiSKiN on Nov 02, 2004 at 02:34 AM
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moderate volume - di kumakalabog, break in time depends on usage, basta gamitin mo lang - mapapansin mo mas relaxed na tunog nya... yun pwede mo na ihataw ng malakas lakas
tnx po sir iceman... pero parang wala kcng bass e... pg-moderate po b dapat nde gumagalaw ung driver ng speaker???

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yung sa wharf ko, it took me approx. 1 week @ 8 - 9 hours/day with -30db volume on my yammie
sir control... ung hk130 ko nsa -20 n kso parang ang hina p rin e... gusto ko sanang lakasan kso kailangan p daw break-in period...

sir av_phile tnx din po... pero para safe s speakers ko...i-break-in ko n lng din po... :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 02, 2004 at 06:50 AM

sir control... ung hk130 ko nsa -20 n kso parang ang hina p rin e... gusto ko sanang lakasan kso kailangan p daw break-in period...


Sir, wag mo munang ihataw yang speakers mo...ganyan din ako nung first week ng wharfs ko...just let it be..unting tyaga lang....   ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 02, 2004 at 06:54 AM
It just flashed in the left side of my brain regarding the boominess of the 9.4....... hindi kaya ganun tumunog yun dahil kailangan pang lagyan ng buhangin, semento, pebbles, marble tiles, etc. sa loob? Dba may tweak na nilalagyan ng sandbag sa loob yun speakers?

 ::)

Pero ganda talaga 9.2 hehehe

 ;D

Sir Jojo...ito rin ang isang pumasok sa isip ko.. yung butas sa likod...sadly I didn't noticed any possible hole at the back of 9.4 (nde kaya ito nalipat sa gilid o ilalim?) kaya hindi ko nilagay sa review..  :-X
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Nov 02, 2004 at 08:51 AM
Guys,

Di ata sandfillable yung 9 series pero pogi ng enclosure ano hehehe bat kaya naging boomy yung 9.4 ??? dahil ba sa freq nya na 23hz as compared to 8.3 na 20hz  ??? o dahil out of the box siya ??? ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 10:19 AM
Guys,

Thanks to Spectra.. galing talaga didn't expect this will sound very good considering out of the box..  :)

9.2 din ako... ( brown color lumabas ka na!!) pero 9.4 break in yan for sure magiging tight ang bass..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 02, 2004 at 10:30 AM
Guys,

Thanks to Spectra.. galing talaga didn't expect this will sound very good considering out of the box..  :)

9.2 din ako... ( brown color lumabas ka na!!) pero 9.4 break in yan for sure magiging tight ang bass..

hehehe..kala ko Sir Hans inuwi mo na yung 9.2  ;D ...Brown color pala yung gusto mo...  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: j_albert22 on Nov 02, 2004 at 10:31 AM
Guys,

Thanks to Spectra.. galing talaga didn't expect this will sound very good considering out of the box..  :)

9.2 din ako... ( brown color lumabas ka na!!) pero 9.4 break in yan for sure magiging tight ang bass..

si KOyang masama balak hehehe totohanan na ito hehehe black na lang matagal pa lalabas yon  ;D ;D ;D ;D next year pa
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 10:32 AM


hehehe..kala ko Sir Hans inuwi mo na yung 9.2  ;D ...Brown color pala yung gusto mo...  >:D

Sir para match sa rack ko hehehehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: fierari on Nov 02, 2004 at 10:49 AM
sayang di rin ako nakarating..............



wala bang tuning foam na pang plug sa hole yung 9.4 para mawala pagka boomy nya?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 02, 2004 at 11:00 AM
Guys,

Thanks to Spectra.. galing talaga didn't expect this will sound very good considering out of the box..  :)

9.2 din ako... ( brown color lumabas ka na!!) pero 9.4 break in yan for sure magiging tight ang bass..

Out of the box speakers are supposed to have STIFFER suspensions.  So the woofer excursions are more constrained and the bass less.  As an element for mechanical action, the suspension could be one area where a break-in period can arguably benefit a speaker.  Though I still reserve my doubts on it.  At any rate, if a speaker were boomy out of the box,  logic might say that a more relaxed suspension after a certain period of break-in use would make it even more boomy.  Not less.  

Many speakers using 2.5 or 3-way designs do sound a bit boomy compared to a simpler 2-way within the same model series at a certain price range.    The crossover electronics and accoustical requirements for them are a lot more demanding and thus, more expensive, than 2-way speaker designs.  That's why 2-way speakers are often preferred at lower price points.  Some speakers using ported designs coupled with passive woofers can sound boomy, as they were designed essentially to peak at a certain frequency often dictated by the port or passive woofer resonance.  Their FR curves do confirm this and can correlate with their percieved boominess to achieve higher sensitivities.  But they can sound really bass heavy and often impressive for disco and rock afficionados.

I am therefore, not surprised that the 9.2 is better preferred over the 9.4 by those who have heard and compared them.  If I recall right, there was about the same preference people had for the 8.2/8.3 over the 8.4 in the past.  Just my observation.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 02, 2004 at 11:07 AM
need i say more...........  :P

naf said about the two 9's we were lucky to have been able to listen to more extensively, albiet the 9.4 was in the true sense of the word, out of the box (sealed pa nga e), while the 9.2 boxes was already open ( creating a conclusion that maybe it may already have had some play time).

compared side with a the 8.3 of sir BGA (sand filled and had its fair time of play) the 9.4 (which is by the way as tall as the 8.3) excelled in the voice department, where the singer sound sweeter when  played through it  (same cdp, amp, wires... same everything), this despite the fact that it came right out of the box (i'll avoid for now mentioning about break-ins  >:D, hot topic aye  ::) ). At the first few hours of play, when it was connected to the M99 of sir audioslave, i find it lacking in the bass department (manipis). Hours latter when it was now attached to the GC of sir punk_kid, it became now quite boomy! The bass, out of control. However, i still have my good impressions for this speaker, who knows latter on, how it will perform.  ;D

My salutations to the 8.3 of sir BGA, you got one heck of a speaker there sir! yong isa nga dyan e, d mapakali kinalikot agad yong 8.3 nya, ganda daw kasi tumunog 8.3 ni benjie, nag sand-filled din! buong lingo ata walang ginawa kundi baklasin, este buksan,  yong takip sa likod, HIRAP PRE ANO  >:( ahahaha. sabi ko nga syo my tawag dyan dito SARS .  ;D

with the 9.2, it was an entirely different story, as this baby's performance improved the more after several hours of play, hanep sa bass nga! thought it is a no-no to compare a bookshelf to a floorstander, i couldnt help myself, as for its size, it packed a lot of punch for you to forget you are listening to a bookshelf, i was totally enthralled!  :o if only i dont have a bookshelf yet.  ::)

and for there price, i say:  "its a pity not to own one." ( i did say more pala)  ;)

THANK YOU SPECTRA AV FOR THE TRUST AND THE OPPORTUNITY GIVEN TO US TO HOME AUDITION THEM

oist d kami endorser ha! ewan ko lang kay k0ya,  ::)  nyehehehe.  >:D

FISH kOya!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 02, 2004 at 11:32 AM

My salutations to the 8.3 of sir BGA, you got one heck of a speaker there sir! yong isa nga dyan e, d mapakali kinalikot agad yong 8.3 nya, ganda daw kasi tumunog 8.3 ni benjie, nag sand-filled din! buong lingo ata walang ginawa kundi baklasin, este buksan,  yong takip sa likod, HIRAP PRE ANO  >:( ahahaha. sabi ko nga syo my tawag dyan dito SARS .  ;D


Aray..ako yun ah....  ;D Anyway, okay naman ang rewards...  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 02, 2004 at 11:55 AM
Ayan na at naghahanap na ng brown color...... parang baby version ng EVO yun....... ang SARS talaga mabilis ang epekto...  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 02, 2004 at 12:07 PM
ok na ok tlga yan pre! kaya bili bili na! hehehe.   >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 02, 2004 at 12:08 PM
brown ba kamo, e2 at my kiwi ako.... kwik shine pa!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Nov 02, 2004 at 12:15 PM


Aray..ako yun ah.... ;D Anyway, okay naman ang rewards... >:D

may improvement ba pre? baka di sulit yung ginawa mo eh :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 02, 2004 at 12:20 PM
brown ba kamo, e2 at my kiwi ako.... kwik shine pa!  ;D


nakuh po, baka hindi makuha sa kiwi yun ah. pag lumabas yan brown color nyan malamang wala ng maisip na excuse.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 02, 2004 at 12:23 PM
malamang! e pano na si evo? for keeps na rin ba yon?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 02, 2004 at 12:31 PM


may improvement ba pre? baka di sulit yung ginawa mo eh :D

Noticeable yung difference pre...   ;D . Medyo makunat lang talaga yung takip kaya ang hirap tangalin..  >:(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 02, 2004 at 12:36 PM
virgin pa kasi yan pre kaya ganyan......


o d kaya dhil matanda na yan at my makakabatang kapatid na yna si 9 kaya makunat na.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Nov 02, 2004 at 12:37 PM


Noticeable yung difference pre... ;D . Medyo makunat lang talaga yung takip kaya ang hirap tangalin.. >:(

kaduda duda yang sagot mo pre ;D ano nag improve sa speaker mo?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 02, 2004 at 12:39 PM
virgin pa kasi yan pre kaya ganyan......


o d kaya dhil matanda na yan at my makakabatang kapatid na yna si 9 kaya makunat na.

 ;D... Palagay ko tama si Sir Jojo...mukhang yung init ng........................tubo ang hinihintay para lumambot...  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 02, 2004 at 12:43 PM


kaduda duda yang sagot mo pre ;D ano nag improve sa speaker mo?

Sir Punk..naging swabe yung tunog...dati kasi medyo malakas yung highs...but after that tweak, nagkaroon ng balance yung highs, mids, and bass.... nga pala nakatulong din yung "MAGIC CD" which I played for almost 8 hours nung Sunday  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 02, 2004 at 12:44 PM
May nakapagsabi sa akin na bukod daw sa warmth at nostalgia ng tubes eh napaka sexy daw.... parang aphrodisiac kapag nag babaga na yun tubes. Actually hindi ko pa maintindihan yun ibig sabihin nun girl eh pero it has something to do talaga with SARS!

Series 9 SARS, bagong strain ng virus ito.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 02, 2004 at 12:47 PM
 
Quote from: control
... Palagay ko tama si Sir Jojo...mukhang yung init ng........................tubo ang hinihintay para lumambot...


hahaha. alam ko ibig sabihin nyan pre ah, latest design/version ba yong plano mo?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 02, 2004 at 12:51 PM



hahaha. alam ko ibig sabihin nyan pre ah, latest design/version ba yong plano mo?

 :-X  <- Ganito muna ako hehehe..para sunpense   ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 02, 2004 at 12:54 PM
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May nakapagsabi sa akin na bukod daw sa warmth at nostalgia ng tubes eh napaka sexy daw.... parang aphrodisiac kapag nag babaga na yun tubes. Actually hindi ko pa maintindihan yun ibig sabihin nun girl eh pero it has something to do talaga with SARS!

Series 9 SARS, bagong strain ng virus ito.


parang iba ang dating nito sakin sir ah...... ibang pumapasok sa utak ko! Super Audio Related S@x (SARS) ba? >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 02, 2004 at 12:56 PM
sior control,

secret din! napapa isip tuloy ako kung upgrade to diamond 9 naba yn o tooot...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 01:02 PM


Out of the box speakers are supposed to have STIFFER suspensions.  So the woofer excursions are more constrained and the bass less.  As an element for mechanical action, the suspension could be one area where a break-in period can arguably benefit a speaker.  Though I still reserve my doubts on it.  At any rate, if a speaker were boomy out of the box,  logic might say that a more relaxed suspension after a certain period of break-in use would make it even more boomy.  Not less.  


Stiffer woofer tend to move slow that why it produced muddy sound, while woofer that been exercised or lets say broken in usually move better or faster that produce clear or better sound. muddy sound may also be cause by unstable spike or base that instead only the woofer moving the whole box ( buffle ) also moves/resonate so some do mass loading. ( sand filing ).

agree with you sir about the 2way design that some best speaker are 2way than 3way or lets say 2 woofer..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 01:10 PM
sior control,

secret din! napapa isip tuloy ako kung upgrade to diamond 9 naba yn o tooot...

Ano ba yan?? medyo out pa utak ko hehehehe...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 02, 2004 at 01:18 PM
yan kasi late ka ng gumising!


diamond 9 langt to sir (hehehe) para d OT.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 01:34 PM
malamang! e pano na si evo? for keeps na rin ba yon?

Senor,

TALAGANG 4 KEEPS Yan!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 02, 2004 at 01:38 PM
la na bye bye evo na.............. tagal naman kasi ng brown na 9 series! hoy madaliin nyo na wharfedale, wag nyo ng paabot ng next yr, for hans sake!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 02, 2004 at 01:43 PM


Stiffer woofer tend to move slow that why it produced muddy sound, while woofer that been exercised or lets say broken in usually move better or faster that produce clear or better sound. muddy sound may also be cause by unstable spike or base that instead only the woofer moving the whole box ( buffle ) also moves/resonate so some do mass loading. ( sand filing ).

agree with you sir about the 2way design that some best speaker are 2way than 3way or lets say 2 woofer..

Yup, a stiff cone suspension can produce a slow responding muddled bass.  I'm just not convinced that a muddled bass is the same as boomy bass, unless a peaking happens at those frequencies.   Perhaps we just have different definitions.  ;D

A boomy bass for me is one that has a characteristic PEAKING at certain frequencies relative to other bass frequencies, often at around 60hz, and is  the result of speaker or port resonances and room modes augmenting each other.  Every room has its characteristic room bass peaks, but a speaker that has its own could easily aggravate the percieved boominess.  So boomines has more to do amplitudes.  

OTH, muddled bass for me has more to do with confused bass notes that are not amplitude related, but a failure to delineate the harmonics between different bass frequencies because the woofer can't respond fast enough to fast-changing bass notes and their harmonics.   It doesn't have to peak but you can get a one-note bass line below a certain frequency.  A stiff cone suspension can result in muddied bass but may be too constrained to displace more air mass to sound boomy compared to a more relaxed suspension.  But, ofcourse, a speaker can exhibit both traits.  Even if the suspension were too stiff to move more air mass, if the port is tuned to that frequency, there'd still be some peaking at that frequency, though on a lesser scale.  But the peaking can increase as the suspension material gets "broken-in."  And this peaking can happen even as the muddled bass gets better definition.  So a muddled bass need not be boomy, unless there are peaks where it is muddles as well.  A boomy bass need not be muddled either, but can sound muddled if it jibes or augments room modes and overpowers other bass notes.  So which is which?  Was it boomy, muddled, or both?  Just my thoughts.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 01:44 PM
la na bye bye evo na.............. tagal naman kasi ng brown na 9 series! hoy madaliin nyo na wharfedale, wag nyo ng paabot ng next yr, for hans sake!!!

psssst J_albert and i got news limited lang daw stock nun 9?? naku kaya bili ka na rin.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Nov 02, 2004 at 01:51 PM
ur welcome
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 01:51 PM


Yup, a stiff cone suspension can produce a slow responding muddled bass.  I'm just not convinced that a muddled bass is the same as boomy bass, unless a peaking happens at those frequencies.   Perhaps we just have different definitions.  ;D

A boomy bass for me is one that has a characteristic PEAKING at certain frequencies relative to other bass frequencies, often at around 60hz, and is  the result of speaker or port resonances and room modes augmenting each other.  Every room has its characteristic room bass peaks, but a speaker that has its own could easily aggravate the percieved boominess.  So boomines has more to do amplitudes.  

OTH, muddled bass for me has more to do with confused bass notes that are not amplitude related, but a failure to delineate the harmonics between different bass frequencies because the woofer can't respond fast enough to fast-changing bass notes and their harmonics.   It doesn't have to peak but you can get a one-note bass line below a certain frequency.  A stiff cone suspension can result in muddied bass but may be too constrained to displace more air mass to sound boomy compared to a more relaxed suspension.  But, ofcourse, a speaker can exhibit both traits.  Even if the suspension were too stiff to move more air mass, if the port is tuned to that frequency, there'd still be some peaking at that frequency, though on a lesser scale.  But the peaking can increase as the suspension material gets "broken-in."  And this peaking can happen even as the muddled bass gets better definition.  So a muddled bass need not be boomy.  A boomy bass need not be muddled either, but can sound muddled if it jibes or augments room modes and overpowers other bass notes.  Just my thoughts.

boomy bass is cause by room accoustic di ba?? like get a 8.4 and put it in a small room and gets boomy while when you use it in a large room the sound is balance?  :)

Muddy bass woofer too slow to react yun kaya ganun?  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 02:21 PM
brown ba kamo, e2 at my kiwi ako.... kwik shine pa!  ;D

Kiwi?? mahirap yan SARS kung ano ano naiisip Atty..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 02:22 PM


kaduda duda yang sagot mo pre ;D ano nag improve sa speaker mo?


Duda ka ba.... isumbong mo kay Tulfo!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Nov 02, 2004 at 02:25 PM
di naman siya 2 woofer para maging boomy like the 8.4, di kaya sa amp yun Koya? di kasi natin na bi-wire yung 9.4 para natest kung boomy pa sound nya.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 02:25 PM
Now I'll first get some things out of the way. Special thanks to SpeactarAV for allowing a home audition of this wonderful speakers, thanks to Hans for transporting them and to Akyat for hosting the session. Wonderful people!

There were two models used, the 9.2 and the 9.4, unfortunately I was kinda late and was only able to listen to the floorstander for only a couple of songs, therefore I cannot give any accurate description of the 9.4. But I was able to inspect the units and it looks that the construction is really solid and those wonderful gold plated bi-wireable binding posts are very good in grasping bare wires and banana plugs.

But then again, the 9.2 is a different story, I was able to listen to it for at least 4 hours, and with several amps too. Now, it may seem to look like a sliced version of the 9.4, the 9.2 was impressive, the amount of highs was balanced, the mids are clear and like others say, crisp. For me the mids are in a way open and brings the song artist right in the middle of your room. A very surprising amount of bass is also packed in this model, for a bookshelf, I wasn't expecting such bass, but the sofa was shaking.  ;D Bi-wiring these bookshelfs also elevated the sound.

For me, the 9.2 is an impressive bookshelf, trully a cost-effective choice indeed.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/Dump/Wharf_9.jpg)

I won't go too much in the technicals of the setup but some of the gears used were:

AMX PP EL34 Tube Amp (Jetok)
Consonance M99 Tube Amp (Audioslave)
Tube Hybrid Gainclone Amp (Punk_kid)

AMX Tube Preamp with Phono (Kimpao)

I don't know the models of the cdp but they were Yamaha, Sony and Sansui cdp present. Also, Akyat's Technics SL-1200 was used as a source.

Again, thanks to Mr. SpectraAV for the trust.  :)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/Dump/M99.jpg)


Galing lalo nun naka hook up sa Gainclone ni KID_lat.. play D best of The Cure.. and Excellent!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 02, 2004 at 02:27 PM


boomy bass is cause by room accoustic di ba?? like get a 8.4 and put it in a small room and gets boomy while when you use it in a large room the sound is balance?  :)

Muddy bass woofer too slow to react yun kaya ganun?  :)

Yup, boomy bass is caused by room accoustics.  But the speaker itself can be boomy if,  in an anechoic room, it exhibits peaking at certain bass frequencies, and worse, if the speaker's resonant peaks jibes with the room modes.  A speaker that peaks at 70hz will have enourmous peaks at 70hz in a room with an 8-ft high ceiling and is 8-foot wide or deep.   (a room with identical height, width and depth is the worst sounding room.)   In general, yes, the bigger the room dimensions, the lower the frequencies that will peak as a result of room modes.   So a very large room will push those frequencies outside the threshhold of audibility.

Muddy bass is muddled bass and results from woofers too slow to react to changing bass notes and their harmonics.    
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 02:28 PM
di naman siya 2 woofer para maging boomy like the 8.4, di kaya sa amp yun Koya? di kasi natin na bi-wire yung 9.4 para natest kung boomy pa sound nya.

Pssst KID_lat di kasi natin nilagay yun spike and unstable yun magazine na pinatungan ng 9.4 kaya in loud volume ah sumasama yun body sa galaw instead na yun woofer lang.. eh yun 9.2 naka stand di ba tapos meron spike. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 02:29 PM


Yup, boomy bass is caused by room accoustics.  But the speaker itself can be boomy if,  in an anechoic room, it exhibits peaking at certain bass frequencies, and worse, if the speaker's resonant peaks jibes with the room modes.  A speaker that peaks at 70hz will have enourmous peaks at 70hz in a room with an 8-ft high ceiling and is 8-foot wide or deep.   (a room with identical height, width and depth is the worst sounding room.)   In general, yes, the bigger the room dimensions, the lower the frequencies that will peak as a result of room modes.   So a very large room will push those frequencies outside the threshhold of audibility.

Muddy bass is muddled bass and results from woofers too slow to react to changing bass notes and their harmonics.    

Thanks sir.. :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Nov 02, 2004 at 02:32 PM
Oo nga!!! ;D ;D ;D palitan ko pinost kong review :P seriously, ok naman sana tunog nung 9.4 kaso boomy lang talaga kaya nasira yung overall performance nya ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 02:35 PM
Oo nga!!! ;D ;D ;D palitan ko pinost kong review :P seriously, ok naman sana tunog nung 9.4 kaso boomy lang talaga kaya nasira yung overall performance nya ::)

pero 9.4 vocals is also sweet and refine.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Philander on Nov 02, 2004 at 02:36 PM
Try also to increase the distance of the speaker from the walls / side walls or corner. This will help in taming the boomy bass.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Philander on Nov 02, 2004 at 02:37 PM
Oo nga!!! ;D ;D ;D palitan ko pinost kong review :P seriously, ok naman sana tunog nung 9.4 kaso boomy lang talaga kaya nasira yung overall performance nya ::)

I think di pa na break-in yan. Try to wait about 3 more months, mas gaganda ang tunog nyan...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Nov 02, 2004 at 03:23 PM


pero 9.4 vocals is also sweet and refine.

mas sweet and refined kaysa sa 8.3



I think di pa na break-in yan. Try to wait about 3 more months, mas gaganda ang tunog nyan...

out of the box pa siya when we listen to it
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 02, 2004 at 04:07 PM
Quote from: av_phile1
More than 300,000 members.  And only one owns a Diamond 9 so far.  May the tribe grow before the year ends.

sir with due respect, pinoydvd has 7,820 members with a total  of 362,544 post... as of this posting sir.

naku kung nagkataon e baka ligawan na tayo ng mga politicians nyan by next election. biruin mo almost half a million votes agad.  >:D

fish sir av. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: skylark on Nov 02, 2004 at 04:40 PM
Sir what about 9.3 ano sa palagay nyo oks din ba sya..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 02, 2004 at 04:48 PM
yan ang type ko tlga! with an 8" driver (my guess) panalo yan. i however wasnt able to audition this baby, d na kasi kasya sa sasakyan ni hans e (kasi my walker pa! >:( ) kaya 9.2 na lang dinala namin! hayyy.....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 05:11 PM
yan ang type ko tlga! with an 8" driver (my guess) panalo yan. i however wasnt able to audition this baby, d na kasi kasya sa sasakyan ni hans e (kasi my walker pa! >:( ) kaya 9.2 na lang dinala namin! hayyy.....

Ok ba maging model ng kiddie walker?? hehehhehee ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 02, 2004 at 05:16 PM
hehehehe.......... loko ka ah! kung d lang sa maalki kong respito sayo sir, sasakyan ko na yon e!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 05:23 PM
hehehehe.......... loko ka ah! kung d lang sa maalki kong respito sayo sir, sasakyan ko na yon e!

Atty wag wag kay baby France yun walker... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 02, 2004 at 05:33 PM


Atty wag wag kay baby France yun walker... ;D ;D

Dapat yun revo dinala mo para lahat ng models kasya!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Nov 02, 2004 at 05:43 PM


Dapat yun revo dinala mo para lahat ng models kasya! ;D ;D ;D ;D

mas maganda kung yung delivery van nila sa office para lahat ng gears sa spectra bitbit namin ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Nov 02, 2004 at 05:47 PM


mas maganda kung yung delivery van nila sa office para lahat ng gears sa spectra bitbit namin ;D ;D ;D

pre pati yung mga tauhan dun sa shop maisasama mo na dun pati yung mayari.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Nov 02, 2004 at 05:50 PM


pre pati yung mga tauhan dun sa shop maisasama mo na dun pati yung mayari. ;D

lilipat na ba sa bundok yung spectra hehehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 02, 2004 at 05:51 PM


lilipat na ba sa bundok yung spectra hehehehe

actually sa dami ng gear ni cheap akyat parang audio store na din.  ;D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 05:58 PM
Sir what about 9.3 ano sa palagay nyo oks din ba sya..

Sayng nga eh we wasn't able to audition it.. pero heard it sa spectra and again promising din ang sound labas din vocals..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 02, 2004 at 05:59 PM
ha? bahay ba yon? kala ko audio store e!

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 06:08 PM


mas maganda kung yung delivery van nila sa office para lahat ng gears sa spectra bitbit namin ;D ;D ;D


Isuzu Forward gagamitin natin next time.. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 03, 2004 at 07:06 AM



Isuzu Forward gagamitin natin next time.. ;D ;D ;D

Yup..para may lugar yung walker... joke joke joke...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 03, 2004 at 01:45 PM


Yup..para may lugar yung walker... joke joke joke...  ;D


Next time sama ko na rin yun stroller hehehehe  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 03, 2004 at 02:22 PM



Next time sama ko na rin yun stroller hehehehe  ;D ;D

Hahahah...sakit ng tyan ko katatawa Sir Hans...  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 03, 2004 at 10:43 PM



Next time sama ko na rin yun stroller hehehehe  ;D ;D

dati nun evo yun dala mo may stroller ah, bakit nun series 9 na eh binuhat mo lang?  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 04, 2004 at 12:31 PM
kung magkakaganon e d na ako sasama! >:(  biruin mo stroller ng walker na kakandungin ko! tindi!  ;D

pwede rin patong nating yong diamond 9 para d na tayo magbuhat.  ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: odyopayl on Nov 04, 2004 at 12:55 PM
I wonder how this diamond 9.2 sounds if you change the  internal wiring with either "XLO" or "Audience" and change the caps with let say "Auricap"...Hot Rod Diamond 9.2! I believe there will be improvement just like they did in USHER X-719 speakers!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 04, 2004 at 01:07 PM
hmmm.... intresting idea sir odyopayl, but how much would the cost entail for such improvement or hot rodding?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 04, 2004 at 01:15 PM
kung magkakaganon e d na ako sasama! >:(  biruin mo stroller ng walker na kakandungin ko! tindi!  ;D

pwede rin patong nating yong diamond 9 para d na tayo magbuhat.  ::)

wawa naman yung stroller Sir...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 04, 2004 at 01:29 PM
I wonder how this diamond 9.2 sounds if you change the  internal wiring with either "XLO" or "Audience" and change the caps with let say "Auricap"...Hot Rod Diamond 9.2! I believe there will be improvement just like they did in USHER X-719 speakers!!

gud day sir! i would suggest that you listen to it like we did - without changing any parts.  ;)

galing! napabilib nga ako dyan sa small wonder na yan, napuno ng music yun bundok.  ;D see you next session.  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 04, 2004 at 02:57 PM
baka ma OT na tayo sa kaka walker-stroller pre kung d natin ipatong yong diamond  e. ahahaha!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 04, 2004 at 03:07 PM
baka ma OT na tayo sa kaka walker-stroller pre kung d natin ipatong yong diamond  e. ahahaha!

Sir Wanderlust baka nde ka na makahinga kapag nilagay mo pa sa ibabaw ng stroller yung diamond 9.2..  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 04, 2004 at 03:14 PM
lang ya..... wag naman sir habang karga karga ko yong walker!!!! human rights violation na yon oy! hehehehe. >:(

pro kung ibibigay ba sakin yong diamond pagkatapos kong kargahin abay.... PWEDE!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 04, 2004 at 03:15 PM
di na baleng madaganan basta may 9.2 ka naman!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 04, 2004 at 03:19 PM
lang ya..... wag naman sir habang karga karga ko yong walker!!!! human rights violation na yon oy! hehehehe. >:(

pro kung ibibigay ba sakin yong diamond pagkatapos kong kargahin abay.... PWEDE!!!! ;D

Aba..Sir kung ganyan ang usapan isama mo na rin yung 9.4 sa 9.2.....ako na alng ang kakalong..  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audioslave on Nov 04, 2004 at 05:00 PM


At any rate, if a speaker were boomy out of the box,  logic might say that a more relaxed suspension after a certain period of break-in use would make it even more boomy.  Not less.  


sir, sa lahat ng sinabi mo.... boto ako dyan....  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audioslave on Nov 04, 2004 at 05:13 PM
Try also to increase the distance of the speaker from the walls / side walls or corner. This will help in taming the boomy bass.

if the speakers are rear-ported, that would help

but for the 9.4s which are front-ported, wall distance is not that significant.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 05, 2004 at 03:02 PM


if the speakers are rear-ported, that would help

but for the 9.4s which are front-ported, wall distance is not that significant.

Diamond 9.4 is front ported pala kaya di mapili sa placement yan near or far sa back wall pwede.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: PLiSKiN on Nov 06, 2004 at 12:16 PM
doon po s may d9c-cs. talaga po bang wala syang kasama n extra feet. nakalagay kc s manual meron dapat e. tnX!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Nov 07, 2004 at 08:03 AM
Not unless na pare siya ng enclosure ng diamond 8 which is not that good kaya it resonates to the backwall (wood) pag malapit. Kahit na front ported siya.



Diamond 9.4 is front ported pala kaya di mapili sa placement yan near or far sa back wall pwede.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: j_albert22 on Nov 07, 2004 at 08:28 AM


if the speakers are rear-ported, that would help

but for the 9.4s which are front-ported, wall distance is not that significant.

atty wala na rin pagalalagyan nang port sa likod coz of the design nang BOX nya
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 08, 2004 at 12:50 PM
Any update kung meron na iba color ( brown )?? :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 08, 2004 at 12:52 PM
Any update kung meron na iba color ( brown )?? :)

Uy ang Sir nag-aabang..Sir pag 9.2 ang kukunin mo sabay tayong bumuli ng stands ha...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 08, 2004 at 01:05 PM
next year pa! magnepan ka na lang sir! ahahaha.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 08, 2004 at 01:07 PM


Uy ang Sir nag-aabang..Sir pag 9.2 ang kukunin mo sabay tayong bumuli ng stands ha...  ;D

Sure....








teka why to i need to buy stand aanhin ko yan.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 08, 2004 at 01:09 PM
next year pa! magnepan ka na lang sir! ahahaha.

ganda ng magnepan....









kaso di type ng wallet ko.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: j_albert22 on Nov 08, 2004 at 01:09 PM


teka why to i need to buy stand aanhin ko yan.. ;D

kunwari pa daw baka bumili na yan...... ;D ;Dlimited stock lang daw e
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 08, 2004 at 01:13 PM

teka why to i need to buy stand aanhin ko yan.. ;D

 ;D Sa evo mo ba ipapatong Sir? wawa naman Evo mo....baka magselos yun at hindi na mag-perform ng maayos... >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 08, 2004 at 01:13 PM
d na kailangan stands pag naka magnepan ka sir, d mo na kailangan yn. hehehe. oy kunwari pa.... bye bye naba sa old, hello new naba? ;D

hayyy...........  type ko din sana yon kaya lang kahit ipambayad ko pati wallet ko d pa rin kaya, ahihihi. mag politician na lang kaya ako? >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 08, 2004 at 01:15 PM
Saw the 9.2 and 9.4 at Sights&Sounds last Sunday and the center as well.  Very well made - looking more like an EVO with its shape.  Wala pa lang 9.3.  The 9.4 has a similar config as an 8.3.  Heard them with a USAudio Sub and sounded pretty fine.  
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 08, 2004 at 01:19 PM
Saw the 9.2 and 9.4 at Sights&Sounds last Sunday and the center as well.  Very well made - looking more like an EVO with its shape.  Wala pa lang 9.3.  The 9.4 has a similar config as an 8.3.  Heard them with a USAudio Sub and sounded pretty fine.  

Bro whats the color available black din ba?? thanks ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Nov 08, 2004 at 01:20 PM
ano pa hinihintay nyo..... narinig nyo naman kung pano sumuka.... este tumunog yung 9.2
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 08, 2004 at 01:24 PM


Bro whats the color available black din ba?? thanks ;D

Black is what I saw.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 08, 2004 at 01:39 PM
Saw the 9.2 and 9.4 at Sights&Sounds last Sunday and the center as well.  Very well made - looking more like an EVO with its shape.  Wala pa lang 9.3.  The 9.4 has a similar config as an 8.3.  Heard them with a USAudio Sub and sounded pretty fine.  

sir how was the 9.2 vs 9.4? w/c is a better buy? did you also find the 9.4 to be boomy?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: odyopayl on Nov 09, 2004 at 04:02 PM


sir how was the 9.2 vs 9.4? w/c is a better buy? did you also find the 9.4 to be boomy?

I took the liberty to reply.  Well speakers on different sizes sounded different depending on the size of the room & position of the speakers. Naturally if your room is small the floorstander will sound boomy.

Speakers neither front or rear ported requires space on back & sidewalls.  The sound of your speakers also depends on your room acoustics. The truth floorstander (big speakers in general) are easier to manage than bookshelf speakers. Diba mas madaling magbawas let say boomy! (try to locate your speakers away from the backwall) compared to Bass craving? That's why high-end speakers really designed BIG! Huge! but they are not intent for a coliseum. Bigger speakers can give you good bass & body in a less volume listening. (IMHO)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 09, 2004 at 05:04 PM


sir how was the 9.2 vs 9.4? w/c is a better buy? did you also find the 9.4 to be boomy?


I did not perform extensive test to say either way.  The set-up had a USAudio sub playing so if it was boomy, I'd blame the sub.  But I didn't perceive any boominess.  The 9.2 was just on display.  They seem to have the same driver elements, so in situations like this, I'd personally prefer a floorstander as you can always define them on the receiver as SMALL, if you want to diminish their bass response.   Then again, if you have excellent subs to begin with, the bookshelfs will do just as well, if not better.  Sometimes the bass back-loading in large enclosures can have an adverse effect on the mids so that a bookshelf in the same line can have more defined mids.  It pays to audition both if you are interested in this model.  I was looking for something else at that time. (The NAD C542  ;D)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on Nov 10, 2004 at 01:05 PM
Hi guys,

What model of D9 series is equivalent to D 8.1? How would you compare the performance in the midrange and treble section? As far as I know D8.1 has so many citations because of its performance in this section. Thanks for any info..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 10, 2004 at 01:32 PM
Hi guys,

What model of D9 series is equivalent to D 8.1? How would you compare the performance in the midrange and treble section? As far as I know D8.1 has so many citations because of its performance in this section. Thanks for any info..


The two models I can think of are the 9.0 and 9.1.. sadly we didn't have the opportunity to audition it.  :-\
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Nov 12, 2004 at 11:24 AM
Finally had a glimps of the 9.4 yestarday at spectra... didn't heard its performance though as i was in a hurry. Kinatok ko lang... ganda ng enclosure tsaka face area ng silk dome tweeter.  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Nov 12, 2004 at 02:30 PM
anyone tested the new diamond9 subs???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on Nov 12, 2004 at 07:54 PM
Was able to audition the Polk Audio sub(dunno model-white cone?), the Def Tech Prosub100TL and the Diamond SW150.  The Def Tech sounded deeper than the two while the Polk sounded louder(boomier?) and best for HT.  IMHO, the SW150 sounded tight and well-controlled(better than the Polk) for music at the price being offered so that's the one I got.  No regrets. :)  For HT, it initially sounded weak but now that I've gotten it broken in(took a month) it's just right for my room(small) and doesn't disturb the neighbors...much.  ;D   
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Nov 13, 2004 at 12:42 PM
thanks taggart
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on Nov 13, 2004 at 06:58 PM
No problem john.  Take my words with a big grain of salt dahil newbie lang talaga ako hehe.  Just want to add na-audition ko narin CHT-10 in another shop and found the bass really nice kaya lang wala sa budget ko.  Same with the Prosub.  Wharfedale at Polk lang pasok sa budget kaya sila talaga pinagcompare ko.  Oh yeah...wanna add on the SW150...6 fixed crossover points from 85hz to 35hz in 10hz intervals...dunno if this is good or bad.       
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Larry_Boy on Nov 14, 2004 at 07:14 AM
guys, i have the awards 2004 edition of what hi fi? sound and vision magazine and guess what . . .  wharfedales diamond 9 series garnered 3 awards as follows:

1) Best compact speaker package for the up to L500 price range (in pounds) for the WHARFEDALE DIAMOND 9 HCP package (this includes 4 diamond 9.0 satelllites, the sw150 sub and the 9cc as centre)

Verdict: Small, tidy and with an enviable unity of sound, this is the best compact speaker package around at the price - budget AV receiver owners need look no further

2) Awards 2004 Product of the Year - Subwoofer category for the WHARFEDALE DIAMOND SW150

Verdict: A true champion in terms of value and performance - weight and presence at a great package

3) Awards 2004 Product of the Year - Stereo Speakers category for the WHARFEDALE DIAMOND 9.1

Verdict: Wharfedale's Diamond 9.1s are a bar-raising effort - the company has just taken the performance of a sub- L200 (in pounds) speakers to a whole new level. A superb budget option.  The designer has given the Wharfedales a sonic ability you'd think was impossible at this price.


. . . so there you have it guys . . . it's time to audition for those who are still having second thoughts!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iceman90a on Nov 14, 2004 at 01:46 PM
After inviting my Tito to the audio fair - he kept bugging me to set up a home theater for him SARS ;D he already had a Yamaha that he could use, but didn't know what it was...

I went to his house yesterday and saw that it was a Yamaha DSP A1 - cool! so armed with his money we went to Spectra (thanks Jim) and bought the following:

Diamond 9.2
Diamond 9.1
Diamond CS
Diamond Subwoofer
(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0UACSGWcX2LV*Jmx9MQUfyoozElbUhVS1RmwuceRFSzsawAOo8fzxLbPUgajJh!hOOC6DCDQ1e9xEWEuWHAoHk7CTBu*7lG75jLmWuIXxWaXZdrKAfj6kKXSCkhkAcJIZ/Resize%20of%20inbox.JPG)

before
(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0UgAaA!sXzOJ*Jmx9MQUfyoozElbUhVS1DBSDgFunOo9rvdjDBhyIY33UbMtyF8V0O*ePte8kpfiJJvh0POllm0191yUygONYSL6b16P4ckEU6TEPwzfaFgc5zud9cZ7i/Resize%20of%20before1.JPG)

after
(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0UAAjA1kXcrJ*Jmx9MQUfyoozElbUhVS14D8WtRylC6T4LhMdz5FPzypTrIeWaKuLP1ZEdVz7ijnBr0YaR3afLiBYC5SaXLB7GJU4XG!fbpjdc9cUmzAgm3SCEhkAcBIZ/Resize%20of%20after.JPG)

all i can say is for HT - i wouldn't spend any more than the cost of these speakers. they do the job and do it well ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: losi_phile on Nov 15, 2004 at 10:54 AM
Hi guys,

What model of D9 series is equivalent to D 8.1? How would you compare the performance in the midrange and treble section? As far as I know D8.1 has so many citations because of its performance in this section. Thanks for any info..


Hi Letor,

I have an 8.1 and was able to listen to 9.1 at sights and sounds (Shangrila).  Based on my few minutes of listening to the 9.1, the most noticable difference between the two is in the bass region.  The 9.1 has more bass than the 8.1.  The mid and high section is almost the same.  Maybe the 9.0 will be equivalent to the 8.1 (haven't listened to the 9.0 though) but the 9.1 is, for me, better than 8.1.  To add to that, the 9.1 is already product of the year sa What HiFi magazine.  Now, I'm seriously considering the 9.1 as against to my earlier preference, the 9.6 >:( >:( Just my opinion.

losi_phile
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 15, 2004 at 11:01 AM
iceman,

natuloy ka din pala! congrats sa HT setup ng Tito mo! sayang at di ako nakasama sa inyo....  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on Nov 15, 2004 at 01:26 PM


Hi Letor,

I have an 8.1 and was able to listen to 9.1 at sights and sounds (Shangrila).  Based on my few minutes of listening to the 9.1, the most noticable difference between the two is in the bass region.  The 9.1 has more bass than the 8.1.  The mid and high section is almost the same.  Maybe the 9.0 will be equivalent to the 8.1 (haven't listened to the 9.0 though) but the 9.1 is, for me, better than 8.1.  To add to that, the 9.1 is already product of the year sa What HiFi magazine.  Now, I'm seriously considering the 9.1 as against to my earlier preference, the 9.6 >:( >:( Just my opinion.

losi_phile


Thanks a lot losi_phile,

With your comments I'm excited to listen to the 9.1 or 9.2 myself kaso lang wala pang stock ang dealer sa area namin. If that's the case its easier to blend the subwoofer with the 9.1. How about the 9.2 have you tried listening? What's your observation? 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 15, 2004 at 03:17 PM


Thanks a lot losi_phile,

With your comments I'm excited to listen to the 9.1 or 9.2 myself kaso lang wala pang stock ang dealer sa area namin. If that's the case its easier to blend the subwoofer with the 9.1. How about the 9.2 have you tried listening? What's your observation? 


Guys,

We had the chance to home audition 9.2 and for a bookshelf it have a floorstander bass  ;D ;D hehehehe the room is around 4 x 7 meters ata aside from the good low end it also provide us with good extended high and sweet mids. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 15, 2004 at 03:55 PM
After inviting my Tito to the audio fair - he kept bugging me to set up a home theater for him SARS ;D he already had a Yamaha that he could use, but didn't know what it was...

I went to his house yesterday and saw that it was a Yamaha DSP A1 - cool! so armed with his money we went to Spectra (thanks Jim) and bought the following:

all i can say is for HT - i wouldn't spend any more than the cost of these speakers. they do the job and do it well ;D

Kya pala you text me ha mag shopping spree ka pala.. hehehehe Congrats sa Tito mo! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iceman90a on Nov 16, 2004 at 07:44 AM
sarap mag shopping pag di mo pera ;D

happy naman sya eh - pag alis ko, nakapuwesto na lahat sila sa sala ;D

jojo - pag yung audio set-up na nya papagawa, sama ka ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 16, 2004 at 10:02 AM
sarap mag shopping pag di mo pera ;D

happy naman sya eh - pag alis ko, nakapuwesto na lahat sila sa sala ;D

jojo - pag yung audio set-up na nya papagawa, sama ka ;D

Senor Iceman,

How much was the total cost of the setup ( speakers with sub only )?  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Chito C. on Nov 16, 2004 at 10:05 AM
mga sars,

kung kayo pagpipiliin, 8.3 o 9.2?

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 16, 2004 at 10:50 AM
ICE,

pa session naman sa bahay ng tito mo, hehehe. seriously, congrats sa tito. ;)

sir chito,

comparing a floorstander to a bookshelf would be like comparing apples to oranges, anyhow, with the performance of the 9.2 i would think twice before getting another of the same price range. ;D

just would like to add, had compared the 8.3 with the 9.4 quite extensively, i say ill go with the 9.4 anytime..... even with my eyes closed!   >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 16, 2004 at 10:53 AM
mga sars,

kung kayo pagpipiliin, 8.3 o 9.2?



parang masyadong chaotic yan, pareho maganda yan para sa akin.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 16, 2004 at 10:57 AM
mga sars,

kung kayo pagpipiliin, 8.3 o 9.2?



Sir Chito,

If you have the money, go for 9.2..but the problem is you need speaker stands (kung gagawin mo syang floor stander)... Halos unti lang naman ang price difference nila ..  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iceman90a on Nov 16, 2004 at 11:04 AM
Senor Iceman,

How much was the total cost of the setup ( speakers with sub only )? ;D

Diamond 9.2 - 7k
Diamond 9.1 - 5.5k
Diamond CD - 4.5k
Diamond Sub - 9k

Total - 26k

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Chito C. on Nov 16, 2004 at 11:13 AM


Sir Chito,

If you have the money, go for 9.2..but the problem is you need speaker stands (kung gagawin mo syang floor stander)... Halos unti lang naman ang price difference nila .. ;)


Hindi din ako makapili eh. Already have the a pair of speaker stands.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 16, 2004 at 11:13 AM
oy oy oy............... quite affordable yan sir ice! o ayan ha, you have the price quote, soon youll have your 13th or bonuses..... bili bili na mga katoto!  8)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 16, 2004 at 11:18 AM



Hindi din ako makapili eh. Already have the a pair of speaker stands.

Oh, meron ka na palang stands Sir.... If I was given the chance and money...I'll choose 9.2... sarap sa tubo nito...mainit init pa....  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 16, 2004 at 11:21 AM
tubo na naman.............. hehehehe.

masarap tlga yan, parang tinapay sa mainit na kape yan!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Chito C. on Nov 16, 2004 at 11:32 AM
wala aking tubo eh. 60/40 ht/audio use.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 16, 2004 at 12:46 PM
si control nga din wala pa...... 60/40 audio n HT din yan..........


pero malapit ng magkatubo iyan eh! abangan!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 16, 2004 at 05:13 PM
wala aking tubo eh. 60/40 ht/audio use.


Bro kahit SS amp pwede yan.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 16, 2004 at 05:14 PM


Diamond 9.2 - 7k
Diamond 9.1 - 5.5k
Diamond CD - 4.5k
Diamond Sub - 9k

Total - 26k


Bro thanks 26k for the package..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 16, 2004 at 05:18 PM
chito,

Bro ano current front speaker mo? if floorstander then get a bookshelf naman tutal meron ka na stands.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Chito C. on Nov 16, 2004 at 05:35 PM
mga sars,

Using bose accoustimass as fronts for ht (2 cubes +1 bass module) for my ht setup at my room (along with yamaha 440 whc2 center and surrounds). Using my sony compo (big bookshelf speakers with  stands) at the sala mostly for audio. Sony speakers definitely better than the bose but I don't have space for the sony speakers. Once I decide to buy 8.3 or 9.2 then I'll buy a video rack that will solve spacing problems. Not yet interested in buying a sub this year coz of my almost 2 year old baby boy (umiiyak sa malalalim na tunog at boses). Although it would be cheaper to just switch my sony speakers and bose speakers and just buy a nice rack i'm afflicted with sars (dahil sa inyo!). warfs ht setup lahat.

8.3 o 9.2?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Nov 16, 2004 at 05:38 PM


Oh, meron ka na palang stands Sir.... If I was given the chance and money...I'll choose 9.2... sarap sa tubo nito...mainit init pa....  >:D

Ang isda ika nga nila nahuhuli sa sariling bibig. Tsk............tsk...........tsk..................
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 16, 2004 at 05:49 PM
mga sars,

Using bose accoustimass as fronts for ht (2 cubes +1 bass module) for my ht setup at my room (along with yamaha 440 whc2 center and surrounds). Using my sony compo (big bookshelf speakers with  stands) at the sala mostly for audio. Sony speakers definitely better than the bose but I don't have space for the sony speakers. Once I decide to buy 8.3 or 9.2 then I'll buy a video rack that will solve spacing problems. Not yet interested in buying a sub this year coz of my almost 2 year old baby boy (umiiyak sa malalalim na tunog at boses). Although it would be cheaper to just switch my sony speakers and bose speakers and just buy a nice rack i'm afflicted with sars (dahil sa inyo!). warfs ht setup lahat.

8.3 o 9.2?


If you plan to use it for audio setup.. 9.2 ako pero kung HT 8.3 since wala ka pa sub baka mabitin ka sa HT mo with a bookshelf...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 16, 2004 at 08:42 PM



If you plan to use it for audio setup.. 9.2 ako pero kung HT 8.3 since wala ka pa sub baka mabitin ka sa HT mo with a bookshelf...


tama si KoYA, kung HT apps, 8.3 talaga ang option mo senor.  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 17, 2004 at 06:38 AM
mga sars,

Using bose accoustimass as fronts for ht (2 cubes +1 bass module) for my ht setup at my room (along with yamaha 440 whc2 center and surrounds). Using my sony compo (big bookshelf speakers with  stands) at the sala mostly for audio. Sony speakers definitely better than the bose but I don't have space for the sony speakers. Once I decide to buy 8.3 or 9.2 then I'll buy a video rack that will solve spacing problems. Not yet interested in buying a sub this year coz of my almost 2 year old baby boy (umiiyak sa malalalim na tunog at boses). Although it would be cheaper to just switch my sony speakers and bose speakers and just buy a nice rack i'm afflicted with sars (dahil sa inyo!). warfs ht setup lahat.

8.3 o 9.2?

Hmmm..madami-dami pala ang conditions mo Sir Chito... definitely I'll choose 8.3 over 9.2 sa set-up mo for ht kasi kulang talaga sa bass ang bookshelf..lalo na kung gagawin mong front for HT at walang susuportang subs..but, you have two choices in here..either na unahin mo muna yung subs mo (example dq-12 approx around 6k)..tapos saka ka bumili ng bagong 9.2 (I also have a 2 year old baby but I always see to it na tolerable sa ears nung baby ko yung subs kapag nanonood kaming pamilya using our HT) or buy an 8.3 now and get the subs later (kaso for me bitin pa rin ito... malaki kasing factor yung subs lalo na kung HT ang pag-uusapan  ;))

Anyways, it's still your choice in the end no matter what.. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: odyopayl on Nov 17, 2004 at 08:45 AM
mga sars,

Using bose accoustimass as fronts for ht (2 cubes +1 bass module) for my ht setup at my room (along with yamaha 440 whc2 center and surrounds). Using my sony compo (big bookshelf speakers with stands) at the sala mostly for audio. Sony speakers definitely better than the bose but I don't have space for the sony speakers. Once I decide to buy 8.3 or 9.2 then I'll buy a video rack that will solve spacing problems. Not yet interested in buying a sub this year coz of my almost 2 year old baby boy (umiiyak sa malalalim na tunog at boses). Although it would be cheaper to just switch my sony speakers and bose speakers and just buy a nice rack i'm afflicted with sars (dahil sa inyo!). warfs ht setup lahat.

8.3 o 9.2?
Sir in my opinion, better get 9.2. You will never enjoy HT without sub even using 8.3, I'm sure bibili ka rin ng sub so better settle for the best from speakers na pang HT na pwede pa audio tested pa ng mga kapatid natin sa forum.
During my first time with HT i had experienced  8.3 and 8.4  so i can compare them with 9.2, malaki ang improvement, sa driver pa lang aluminum die cast na compared to 8.3 & 8.4 honestly, twice ako nagpapalit ng 8.3 dahil nagki-clip siya.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimosabe on Nov 17, 2004 at 09:12 AM
oy oy oy............... quite affordable yan sir ice! o ayan ha, you have the price quote, soon youll have your 13th or bonuses..... bili bili na mga katoto!  8)

I'll buy sana 9.1 or 9.2 for surround kaya lang kailangan unahin yung atraso ko sayo hayyyy next year na siguro.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 17, 2004 at 09:20 AM


I'll buy sana 9.1 or 9.2 for surround kaya lang kailangan unahin yung atraso ko sayo hayyyy next year na siguro.

Heheheh..okay lang yun pre..naka-jackpot ka naman dyan sa nakuha mo kay Sir wanderlust eh...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Chito C. on Nov 17, 2004 at 09:47 AM
Probably buy the 9.2.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 17, 2004 at 10:32 AM
Quote from: kimosabe
I'll buy sana 9.1 or 9.2 for surround kaya lang kailangan unahin yung atraso ko sayo hayyyy next year na siguro.

my bonus pa na parating sir..... 13th month mo p lang yan e. hehehe  >:D

Quote from: Control
Heheheh..okay lang yun pre..naka-jackpot ka naman dyan sa nakuha mo kay Sir wanderlust eh...

thnx sir. nanghihinayang pero masaya din since i know happy ang nakakuha and will take care of my precious pa..... nasa mabuting kamay ika nga.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 17, 2004 at 10:49 AM
Don't worry Sir..more than happy ka naman dun sa dynamic duo para sa 8.3 mo...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimosabe on Nov 17, 2004 at 12:01 PM


my bonus pa na parating sir..... 13th month mo p lang yan e. hehehe  >:D


Wala na rin yung bonus naibili na ng pre-amp  ;D

Quote
thnx sir. nanghihinayang pero masaya din since i know happy ang nakakuha and will take care of my precious pa..... nasa mabuting kamay ika nga.  ;D

Yup, i'm having so much fun with the speaker. Jackpot talaga.

Pero next project ko talaga yung 9.1 or 9.2 for surround (para hindi OT)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 17, 2004 at 12:21 PM
hehehe........ you mean the toott.... and chord combi ba pre? hehehe, d lang happy, humahanga pa kamo pre! matindi and tunog, kala mo d 8.3 gamit ko e.  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 17, 2004 at 12:25 PM
sir kimosabe,


d bale sir, happy k naman d ba  ;D ..... integrated o much better power amp na lng kulang sir audio haven na. pero maganda din yang plano mo sir na diamond 9s but if pang sorround lang much better (mas matipid) kong 9.1 lang......  still d best din 9.2, hehehehe..........  confused din ksi ako  :o
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 17, 2004 at 12:35 PM
sir kimosabe,


d bale sir, happy k naman d ba  ;D ..... integrated o much better power amp na lng kulang sir audio haven na. pero maganda din yang plano mo sir na diamond 9s but if pang sorround lang much better (mas matipid) kong 9.1 lang......  still d best din 9.2, hehehehe..........  confused din ksi ako  :o

Nyahahah...nabuko din kita Sir..kunwari ka pa na ayaw mo ng Wharf ha....  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimosabe on Nov 17, 2004 at 01:23 PM
Sir wanderlust mukang haping hapi ka sa 8.3 ha.

You know before the day na dalin namin sa bahay mo yung 8.3, i listen to it for the last time and maganda talagang tumunog, nagdalawang isip nga ako eh kung bebenta ko pa or not.  Anyway, mahalaga pareho tayong hapi  ;D after ng 9.1/9.2 project ko integrated amp naman  ;D gastos na naman  :'(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 17, 2004 at 01:32 PM
Guys,

ano na buy na ng 9 series... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Nov 17, 2004 at 01:34 PM
mga sars,

Using bose accoustimass as fronts for ht (2 cubes +1 bass module) for my ht setup at my room (along with yamaha 440 whc2 center and surrounds). Using my sony compo (big bookshelf speakers with  stands) at the sala mostly for audio. Sony speakers definitely better than the bose but I don't have space for the sony speakers. Once I decide to buy 8.3 or 9.2 then I'll buy a video rack that will solve spacing problems. Not yet interested in buying a sub this year coz of my almost 2 year old baby boy (umiiyak sa malalalim na tunog at boses). Although it would be cheaper to just switch my sony speakers and bose speakers and just buy a nice rack i'm afflicted with sars (dahil sa inyo!). warfs ht setup lahat.

8.3 o 9.2?

Sir,
kasi yung baby mas sensitive tenga nyan kaysa sa atin - so they know the good speakers - e umiyak, so kailangan palitan!  ;D I think your babe will hear the bass out of 9.2, only you have to sacrifice not hearing the bass yourself (sori bok, ganito daw talaga tayong matatand..) until your baby grow a little older - kinda mag equalize yung hearing nyo sa bass level - then you can convince him to buy the sub na!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 17, 2004 at 01:38 PM


Sir,
kasi yung baby mas sensitive tenga nyan kaysa sa atin - so they know the good speakers - e umiyak, so kailangan palitan!  ;D I think your babe will hear the bass out of 9.2, only you have to sacrifice not hearing the bass yourself (sori bok, ganito daw talaga tayong matatand..) until your baby grow a little older - kinda mag equalize yung hearing nyo sa bass level - then you can convince him to buy the sub na!  ;D


Aray ko.. aging!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 17, 2004 at 04:50 PM
naku po, kailan pa yon! hehehe. pag nasa 20s na si baby ba? e that would be 18 years from now.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 17, 2004 at 04:54 PM
Quote
Sir wanderlust mukang haping hapi ka sa 8.3 ha.

You know before the day na dalin namin sa bahay mo yung 8.3, i listen to it for the last time and maganda talagang tumunog, nagdalawang isip nga ako eh kung bebenta ko pa or not.  Anyway, mahalaga pareho tayong hapi  after ng 9.1/9.2 project ko integrated amp naman  gastos na naman


oo naman sir, basta everybody happy ayos yon.....   kailan kaya dadating rose wood na 9.4  ???   >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Chito C. on Nov 17, 2004 at 04:55 PM
pwede na siguro next year (sw-150)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: BuLLeT on Nov 17, 2004 at 10:18 PM
Chief Ice,

Kumusta naman performance ng sub ng Wharf in terms of LFEs sa movies? Plan ko kasi kumuha para sa bedroom and medium size ung room and to be paired sa JBL LX 2004 floorstanders and to be driven by HK 35550.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iceman90a on Nov 18, 2004 at 06:52 AM
Chief Ice,

Kumusta naman performance ng sub ng Wharf in terms of LFEs sa movies? Plan ko kasi kumuha para sa bedroom and medium size ung room and to be paired sa JBL LX 2004 floorstanders and to be driven by HK 35550.

Thanks.

my uncle's sala was 14 feet x 16 feet, with the left side opening to the main hall of the house..

the sub was able to pressurize the room with low bass, level setting was not even half the max volume yet. we tried it with several movies and it was ok...

i havent listened to it again since last weekend though, might have to go back after a few months to reset channel levels after the speakers and sub break in
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hunnyko on Nov 18, 2004 at 11:10 AM
Hello there DVD Gurus I'm really new here at pdvd and I would like to have
a HT setup with diamond 9s:

9.3 (front)
9.CS (center)
9.1 (surround)
9.SW150 (sub)

Has anyone of you tried or auditioned diamond 9.3?  I'm also looking for a 6.1 channel receiver that
would fit to above speakers. Any suggestions my budget for the receiver is around ~20k.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Nov 18, 2004 at 11:19 AM
my choice of receiver if you intend to purchase those diamond 9s is either yamaha or harman kardon.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 18, 2004 at 11:38 AM
Hello there DVD Gurus I'm really new here at pdvd and I would like to have
a HT setup with diamond 9s:

9.3 (front)
9.CS (center)
9.1 (surround)
9.SW150 (sub)

Has anyone of you tried or auditioned diamond 9.3?  I'm also looking for a 6.1 channel receiver that
would fit to above speakers. Any suggestions my budget for the receiver is around ~20k.

Cheers.

Sir, much better if you could stretch your budget a little further..
For 60HT/40 Audio Setup, I recommend Yamaha.. rx-v650 (7.1) approx 25k
For 50HT/50 Audio Setup, I recommend HK .. maybe 230 or lower approx 25k
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 18, 2004 at 11:53 AM
I'd get an HK, though Yamaha does have nice DSP features for movie viewing.  Are there no recommendations for NAD + Diamonds?  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Chito C. on Nov 18, 2004 at 12:07 PM
wala bang reviews ng 9.3?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 18, 2004 at 01:16 PM
I'd get an HK, though Yamaha does have nice DSP features for movie viewing.  Are there no recommendations for NAD + Diamonds?  ;D

NAD + Wharf... IMHO minsan muddy sound and roll off yun high NAD kasi warm same as Wharf. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 18, 2004 at 04:19 PM
HK all the way.... but its just me thought and i own a yamaha avr  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Nov 18, 2004 at 06:12 PM
I have to hear both and keep an open mind & common (hearing) sense to make the selection!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hunnyko on Nov 19, 2004 at 07:01 AM
I've read some of the specs of HK and YAMAHA and they are rated at 8ohms, is it ok to pair
them to wharfs diamond 9s which are rated at only 6ohms?  What would be the effect on its power?
Or should I get a reciever with a rating of 6ohms?

Cheers
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 19, 2004 at 07:08 AM
I've read some of the specs of HK and YAMAHA and they are rated at 8ohms, is it ok to pair
them to wharfs diamond 9s which are rated at only 6ohms?  What would be the effect on its power?
Or should I get a reciever with a rating of 6ohms?

Cheers

both HK and Yamaha are good for Wharfs...  ;)
HK + Wharf = 50% Audio/ 50% HT
Yamaha + Wharf = 40% Audio/ 60% HT

Note: Wharfedale Speakers are compatible with any 8 Ohm amplifier output (Taken from wharfedale site)  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 19, 2004 at 11:34 AM
sir hunnyko,

there will be no ill effect when pairing a 6ohms speaker to an 8ohms amp/avr, vice versa.

actually it is within the safe zone, i dont know about the other yamaha models, but mine has this switch at the back for ohms selection, and in one of the switches there is printed (6ohms-8ohms), what im trying to drive at sir is that the 6 or 8 ohms rating is not really a mandatory requirement as this equipment are expected to handle, 6, 8, 16 ohms load (amp/avr), while speakers though rated at 6 or 8 ohms ideally operates within the 6 to 8 ohms zone.

a word of caution however, there are power hungry speakers out there with  ratings of 4ohm or lower, with this type of speakers, you need to have amps/avrs which specifically are rated to handle 4ohms load or lower, otherwise you will run the risk of over loading the amp/avr.

hope i have been of assistance.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ADM202E on Nov 19, 2004 at 03:10 PM
Guys,  magkano ba sa market ang 9 series? Thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Nov 19, 2004 at 03:36 PM
Quote from: ADM202E
Guys,  magkano ba sa market ang 9 series? Thanks

it ranges from 5.5k to 15k
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 19, 2004 at 03:53 PM
previous post sir will reveal the exact pricing for each diamond 9 series.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 22, 2004 at 05:38 PM
Guys,

Any siting of BRown colors of 9 series??
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: james16 on Nov 22, 2004 at 06:32 PM
Guys,

Any siting of BRown colors of 9 series??

sana madinig ko din yan one of these days....  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 22, 2004 at 06:37 PM


sana madinig ko din yan one of these days....  ;D

Malay mo sir this SAt.. ;D ;D ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: james16 on Nov 22, 2004 at 06:40 PM


Malay mo sir this SAt.. ;D ;D ::) ::) ::)

heheheh, ayos yan....  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: j_albert22 on Nov 22, 2004 at 08:53 PM


heheheh, ayos yan....  ;D

yong usher mo dalhin mo na wag ka nang magpatumpik tumpik pa  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: james16 on Nov 22, 2004 at 09:22 PM


yong usher mo dalhin mo na wag ka nang magpatumpik tumpik pa  ;D ;D


hehehehe, you ha!!!!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 23, 2004 at 06:49 AM


yong usher mo dalhin mo na wag ka nang magpatumpik tumpik pa  ;D ;D

Ayan yan Sir! Parang ang laki yata nung Usher ni Sir James..  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 23, 2004 at 08:45 AM
Control,

Don't worry about James yakang yaka nya yan..  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 23, 2004 at 04:04 PM
Guys,

Wala pa din Brown color ng Diamond 9 hay...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: cybermms on Nov 23, 2004 at 08:47 PM
Diamond 8's are here to stay!

They are still listed in Stereophile's 2005 Buyer's Guide side by side with Diamond 9's.

Wharfedale now has a Xmas offer for 8.3 and 8.4 exclusive to pinoydvd members. They will raffle a set of DFS8 + Center and 8.1 + Center for every group of 8 members buying the 8.3 and 8.4, respectively. (Check out the Asst Buy and Sell for more details). They are not reducing the price - they just want to thank their loyal followers from the pinoydvd community.

It will be the 8's vs. the 9's competing.The 9.1 and the SW150 already bagged What HI-Fi?'s product of the year in their respective categories. It will be a very exciting match-up between 2 siblings.

cyber
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: saltuhin on Nov 23, 2004 at 11:17 PM
hello to all members. newbie lng po ako dito sa pinoydvd but I was a long time reader of your forums. It was with those readings that influenced me to try the diamond 9 series of speakers. Recently I bought the 9.5 and 9cs paired with a Yamaha rxv 440,  dtx 4.15 sub and bose 301 s4 for my surrounds. I was really impressed with the 9.5s because of the good bass response as compared with my 301s. All I can say is that I am satisfied with the wharfs and also considering upgrading my surrounds with 9.2s.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 24, 2004 at 06:29 AM
hello to all members. newbie lng po ako dito sa pinoydvd but I was a long time reader of your forums. It was with those readings that influenced me to try the diamond 9 series of speakers. Recently I bought the 9.5 and 9cs paired with a Yamaha rxv 440,  dtx 4.15 sub and bose 301 s4 for my surrounds. I was really impressed with the 9.5s because of the good bass response as compared with my 301s. All I can say is that I am satisfied with the wharfs and also considering upgrading my surrounds with 9.2s.

WOW Sir, 9.2 for surrounds lang..ayos yan Sir!  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bebot santos on Nov 24, 2004 at 10:43 PM
I went to parksquare to hear the 9 series, mejo kulang sa high, more on bass ang series, kinumpara ko sya sa m773 ng mission ang layo ng dating. (sempre mahal un mission) pero truly nde ako naligayahan sa 9 series.
Just my impression sempre un buyer pa rin ang masusunod :o
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: synchro on Nov 25, 2004 at 08:53 AM
I went to parksquare to hear the 9 series, mejo kulang sa high, more on bass ang series,

bebot santos

bro we have the same impressions on the Wharfe's.  been considering a pair of bookshelves from the Wharf line for the longest time already but everytime I audition it I find it to be "ngo-ngo" or pinched sounding lalo na vocals ng male which always makes me think twice in purchasing it.  8 series and 9 series pareho ang shortcomings. bass is a strong point in both the 8 and 9 series but both models are still lacking in the midband . even if you dial up a treble boost parang may kulang pa rin.  I dont know if its just me, the associated gears used in the audition, the room etc etc.  One thing I do know is that the price is very tantalizing to say the least.  where else can you get an imported "UK based" monster floorstander for less than Php15T?  :) 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jerix on Nov 25, 2004 at 10:13 AM
i can notice the ambivalence of opinions with regard to the sound quality of the wharf in either the 8 or 9 series ...

Di kaya ito just a case of equipment mismatch or the influence of the listening environment

Maybe in our review, if it possible to mention the equipment used with the speakers or the description of the listening environment, i think it would be best... because when two or more people will make a similar comment on similar conditions or environment, there is a bigger percentage of truth.. ;)

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: synchro on Nov 25, 2004 at 10:51 AM
jerix

heard both the 8 and 9 series in a friend's house (fan sya ng wharfs...he has both models). his room is untreated w/ the normal furnishings that you will find sa bahay like sofas, rug, curtains, center tables etc.

gear associated w/ the audition:

Onkyo A/V receiver
Philips DVD player
Digital cable: Puresonic
interconnects: VDH
speaker cales: generic 12 gauge from Listening room.

one time we tried using the Diamond 8 and 9 bookshelves with a Yamaha 150 watt x 2 power amp connected to the main out of the Onkyo. the output became slightly higher with more punch in the low end but the highs didnt improve a bit. parang may takip yung tweeter.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 25, 2004 at 10:57 AM

Maybe in our review, if it possible to mention the equipment used with the speakers or the description of the listening environment, i think it would be best... because when two or more people will make a similar comment on similar conditions or environment, there is a bigger percentage of truth.. ;)



Must indicate the genre of music source used.  Most techno pop music have a lot of synthesizer music containing signals even above 20khz and highly compressed so that any tweeter is challenged.  OTH, classical quartet or quintet ensemble music contain nothing fundamental above 12khz. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mYKi on Nov 25, 2004 at 10:59 AM
I too owned the Diamond 8's for a few months connected to a Marantz receiver and I have to agree that it lacked the midband and it lacked details at the top end. However, it sounded great and Wharfedale's got me started into this hobby.

In my review of the Diamond 9's earlier in this thread, I listened to it connected to a NAD C542 and an HK amplifier. I had the same findings that it lacked detail. Para ngang may cover yung speaker.

Kaso we can't compare these with speakers like B&W, Monitor Audio, Dynaudio because all of these are 3 to 5 times more expensive.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Nov 25, 2004 at 11:13 AM
I heard wharf and pioneer combo - they are far better than the wharf/yamaha combo. Am not satisfied as well when I auditioned HK/Denon with wharf.

I have not heard Onkyo/Marantz but have a gut-feel that onkyo/marantz (traditionally laidback amps) may not fit the performance of wharf (dull or accurate speakers). I maybe wrong.

My GC powers the 8.3. My only complaint is the high - somehow bitin for me. My 630 treble control didnt help even a little. I will try a quick tweak to the cross-over to boost the high a bit. If the tweak is correct and it improved a little, will report back here.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 25, 2004 at 11:33 AM
jerix

heard both the 8 and 9 series in a friend's house (fan sya ng wharfs...he has both models). his room is untreated w/ the normal furnishings that you will find sa bahay like sofas, rug, curtains, center tables etc.

gear associated w/ the audition:

Onkyo A/V receiver
Philips DVD player
Digital cable: Puresonic
interconnects: VDH
speaker cales: generic 12 gauge from Listening room.

one time we tried using the Diamond 8 and 9 bookshelves with a Yamaha 150 watt x 2 power amp connected to the main out of the Onkyo. the output became slightly higher with more punch in the low end but the highs didnt improve a bit. parang may takip yung tweeter.


I personally felt the highs and the details liberated when I shifted from wharfe to Mordaunt about 18 months ago.  And they're not really that far in price points.  But I attribute that perception more to my age.  ;D  I guess at 40 something,  I'm in that group who can't hear anything above 17khz as well as when younger.   So a relatively brighter and more detailed speaker is most welcome.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: synchro on Nov 25, 2004 at 11:49 AM
mYKi

hehe akala ko ako lang nakaka-notice e kasi para wala akong nababasa na shortcomings sa thread na ito yun pala madami ding nakakapansin na ngo-ngo tumunog yung wharfs.  bro I think its a problem with the crossover kasi yung drivers naman look up to the challenge e (from the looks of it at least).  syempre we have to also bear in mind that comparing the wharfs to speakers costing so much more isnt fair at all pero lets say you pit the 9.4 floorstanders against say a bookshelf B&W 3 series (same price point as the 9.4's) what speaker will you ultimately choose to live with for the next year or so until you upgrade? what speaker will give you more enjoyment everytime you listen to it? for me hands down it would be the B&W coz im more into the midband...its the meat of the music...the filling of a pie...to hell with the bass hehe.  
Maybe the appeal of the Wharfs is only the bang for the buck aspect.  such handsome and imposing speakers or so little money but they eventually cut some corners to arrive at that price.  kaya ako bro di ako naniniwala dyan sa mga speaker of the year award award na yan e...iba pa rin yung personal audition.

sorry sa mga present owners ng wharfs kung na-offend kayo pero syempre we have to talk about the positives and negatives too for the enlightenment of future buyers. Hindi naman pwede yung puro good points na lang ang pag-uusapan everytime may bagong labas na model ng speakers di ba?  peace bros  O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on Nov 25, 2004 at 12:17 PM


Hi Letor,

I have an 8.1 and was able to listen to 9.1 at sights and sounds (Shangrila).  Based on my few minutes of listening to the 9.1, the most noticable difference between the two is in the bass region.  The 9.1 has more bass than the 8.1.  The mid and high section is almost the same.  Maybe the 9.0 will be equivalent to the 8.1 (haven't listened to the 9.0 though) but the 9.1 is, for me, better than 8.1.  To add to that, the 9.1 is already product of the year sa What HiFi magazine.  Now, I'm seriously considering the 9.1 as against to my earlier preference, the 9.6 >:( >:( Just my opinion.

losi_phile


hi losi_phile,

Pahabol question -- Mayron din ako ng 8.1, yung 9.1 ba sounds open as the 8.1? Kasi though mas okay ang bass region ng 9.1 as what you say but does the sound stage and openess is similar to the 8's?

Just like in my own observation between the 8.1 and 8.4 ...Surely 8.4 has plenty of low bass but in the mid section, the 8.1 sounds forward and has fuller or warmer vocal sounds. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iceman90a on Nov 25, 2004 at 12:18 PM
i'm sure no offense is meant and none is taken when we post our individual reviews here. after all we're not being paid to do so di ba? its all about sharing and helping the next buyer make an informed decision...

just a word of warning - we get what we pay for ;D

when i went for the diamond 9's for my Tito's HT set-up - the following were the considerations:
1. Price
2. use (just for HT)
3. he might be setting up an audio only room as well
4. compatibility with equipment to be used
5. again with Price (had he given me a bigger budget, i might have went with another brand)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jerix on Nov 25, 2004 at 12:22 PM
To those who already have the wharf 9, di pa naman huli--- similar to the case of the 8 series, maybe these babies need to be tweaked ;)

Calling diy_master and Nirvblakr the master tweakers --  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 25, 2004 at 12:30 PM
mYKi

hehe akala ko ako lang nakaka-notice e kasi para wala akong nababasa na shortcomings sa thread na ito yun pala madami ding nakakapansin na ngo-ngo tumunog yung wharfs.  bro I think its a problem with the crossover kasi yung drivers naman look up to the challenge e (from the looks of it at least).  syempre we have to also bear in mind that comparing the wharfs to speakers costing so much more isnt fair at all pero lets say you pit the 9.4 floorstanders against say a bookshelf B&W 3 series (same price point as the 9.4's) what speaker will you ultimately choose to live with for the next year or so until you upgrade? what speaker will give you more enjoyment everytime you listen to it? for me hands down it would be the B&W coz im more into the midband...its the meat of the music...the filling of a pie...to hell with the bass hehe.  
Maybe the appeal of the Wharfs is only the bang for the buck aspect.  such handsome and imposing speakers or so little money but they eventually cut some corners to arrive at that price.  kaya ako bro di ako naniniwala dyan sa mga speaker of the year award award na yan e...iba pa rin yung personal audition.

sorry sa mga present owners ng wharfs kung na-offend kayo pero syempre we have to talk about the positives and negatives too for the enlightenment of future buyers. Hindi naman pwede yung puro good points na lang ang pag-uusapan everytime may bagong labas na model ng speakers di ba?  peace bros  O0

No problem with a balanced set of perceptions.  Even those consumer reviews on eccoustics and other audio consumer review sites have a mix of reactions on any model.  Just goes to show that no single product can satisfy everyone.  Even those expensive B&Ws have their naysayers as well. 

I tend to agree that wharfe may have compromised more to bring its price down.  I recall reading some posts in the diamond 8 thread early last year about tweaks made on the crossover network that improved the highs.  Maybe the new owners can benefit from revisiting those posts.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on Nov 25, 2004 at 12:31 PM
Try the wharf speakers with the Rotel amp...its worth testing.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Nov 25, 2004 at 12:33 PM
Bros,

I all of your views has merit... here are some considerations:

1.) Audition condition
2.) Speakers are not broken-in
3.) MATCHING (with empahsis)

I have an 8.3 and at first... i consider it also as ngo-ngo... lack on detail... rolled-off highs... that was my 1st setup.  As it evolves...  cdp... speaker cables... ic... speaker placing... etc... i must say that my audio experience is now totally different.  I've been a believer of MATCHING after my experience.

Its all about MATCHING.

Goodluck on your matching expedition.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: synchro on Nov 25, 2004 at 12:38 PM
Letor

wharf and rotel?  para yatang magkaibang league na yun bro.   ???

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Nov 25, 2004 at 12:40 PM
Bros,

I all of your views has merit... here are some considerations:

1.) Audition condition
2.) Speakers are not broken-in
3.) MATCHING (with empahsis)

I have an 8.3 and at first... i consider it also as ngo-ngo... lack on detail... rolled-off highs... that was my 1st setup.  As it evolves...  cdp... speaker cables... ic... speaker placing... etc... i must say that my audio experience is now totally different.  I've been a believer of MATCHING after my experience.

Its all about MATCHING.

Goodluck on your matching expedition.

Alin sir, sa "Matching" ka ba naniniwala o sa "Matsing"  ;D ;D



Bakit kaya nae-extend ang high and lumilinaw yung mids ng wharf kung sa tube amp naka-kabit? ::) ::) Hmmmmmm makes me wonder......... Bakit kaya? ::) >:D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Nov 25, 2004 at 12:41 PM
Pre,

Ang ibig sabihin non... hindi SPEAKER ang may problema!  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Nov 25, 2004 at 12:43 PM
Pre,

Ang ibig sabihin non... hindi SPEAKER ang may problema!  ;D  ;D  ;D

Nice one, Preng slayer!!!!.......  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Nov 25, 2004 at 12:49 PM
Pero i must admin... pangit talaga ng enclosure ng diamond 8... which is not the case on the 9s.  Masadyo malakas ang resonate ng enclosure ng 8... so you really have to do treatment. Which reminds me... hindi ko parin na sa-sandfill yung 8.3 ko... matagal ko nang plano ito.  :-\
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 25, 2004 at 12:51 PM
Letor

wharf and rotel?  para yatang magkaibang league na yun bro.   ???



True, but I personally don't see a problem.  Let's not be restricted to price range categorization.   ;D

Even a Dai-ichi + Krell combo is fine if that's what makes the listener happy.   ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 25, 2004 at 12:56 PM
Pero i must admin... pangit talaga ng enclosure ng diamond 8... which is not the case on the 9s.  Masadyo malakas ang resonate ng enclosure ng 8... so you really have to do treatment. Which reminds me... hindi ko parin na sa-sandfill yung 8.3 ko... matagal ko nang plano ito.  :-\

The Diamond 9's non-rectangular cross-section, shared with the Pacific Evolution line, does provide less internal standing waves to backload the woofer, so I can expect a more relaxed bass excursion.  They seem to have more promise after a tweak. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 25, 2004 at 12:56 PM
i too have the same impression of the wharfes before, ngo-ngo. had an 8.1 dint was able to use an 8.4, was really unimpressed until just lately, when, i had a chance again to use an 8.3.

at first it was all the same (ngo2x and weak bass which tend to sound boomy), thought the previous owner had it for 6 months or so, i could see that it was not fully broken-in as yet. so after a few session with the magic cd and the xlo burn-in cd, it opened up a bit, from then on my impression totally changed! now with the addition of new speaker cables (bi-wiring) and some other improvements on my system, i had a hard time letting go of it.... well if its not of k0yas persistence i wouldnt have let go of it, well maybe except for chito.... of course.


added note: i had it only for the sole purpose of selling it latter on, a transistion period until i found a new floorstander that would tickle my fancy, what happened was that the 8.3 was the one who tickled my fancy instead. hay... sabi nga lagi ng isang guru: "kung ano pang maganda sya pang nawawala sayo, d bale happy naman sila. share the experience nalang"

ill miss my 8.3.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Nov 25, 2004 at 01:02 PM
i too have the same impression of the wharfes before, ngo-ngo. had an 8.1 dint was able to use an 8.4, was really unimpressed until just lately, when, i had a chance again to use an 8.3.

at first it was all the same (ngo2x and weak bass which tend to sound boomy), thought the previous owner had it for 6 months or so, i could see that it was not fully broken-in as yet. so after a few session with the magic cd and the xlo burn-in cd, it opened up a bit, from then on my impression totally changed! now with the addition of new speaker cables (bi-wiring) and some other improvements on my system, i had a hard time letting go of it.... well if its not of k0yas persistence i wouldnt have let go of it, well maybe except for chito.... of course.


added note: i had it only for the sole purpose of selling it latter on, a transistion period until i found a new floorstander that would tickle my fancy, what happened was that the 8.3 was the one who tickled my fancy instead. hay... sabi nga lagi ng isang guru: "kung ano pang maganda sya pang nawawala sayo, d bale happy naman sila. share the experience nalang"

ill miss my 8.3.

Hay................. ang isda nga naman ika nga nila nahuhuli sa sariling bibig.  Tama pala yung bubwit ko.  ;D Ahehehehehe.....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Nov 25, 2004 at 01:16 PM
Bili na ng Diamond 9.4 tapos 4 years break-in period ulit! Ahehehehe...   ;D  ;D  ;D

i too have the same impression of the wharfes before, ngo-ngo. had an 8.1 dint was able to use an 8.4, was really unimpressed until just lately, when, i had a chance again to use an 8.3.

at first it was all the same (ngo2x and weak bass which tend to sound boomy), thought the previous owner had it for 6 months or so, i could see that it was not fully broken-in as yet. so after a few session with the magic cd and the xlo burn-in cd, it opened up a bit, from then on my impression totally changed! now with the addition of new speaker cables (bi-wiring) and some other improvements on my system, i had a hard time letting go of it.... well if its not of k0yas persistence i wouldnt have let go of it, well maybe except for chito.... of course.


added note: i had it only for the sole purpose of selling it latter on, a transistion period until i found a new floorstander that would tickle my fancy, what happened was that the 8.3 was the one who tickled my fancy instead. hay... sabi nga lagi ng isang guru: "kung ano pang maganda sya pang nawawala sayo, d bale happy naman sila. share the experience nalang"

ill miss my 8.3.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: garee on Nov 25, 2004 at 01:31 PM
considering ht and audio applications, which is best for keeps : 8.3 or 9.2?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Nov 25, 2004 at 01:35 PM
8.3 is a floorstander... 9.2 is a bookshelf... if you don't have a sub and you need more bass, go with the floorstander.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on Nov 25, 2004 at 02:29 PM
Letor

wharf and rotel?  para yatang magkaibang league na yun bro.   ???


You're right, but it doesn't mean that when you have a pricey amplifier you'll have to pair it with a pricey speaker. Pricey speakers doesn't always guarantee a good match with the amplifier.  Properly matched amp + speakers promises a good sounding audio system.  The price of the speaker does not tell how it sounds.  Another important factor is personal perception and taste of what a good sound is.

I do agree with av_phile on his comment in this issue.

Actually my audio only set-up is an 8.1 wharf and a plain stereo Rotel Amplifier and a CD player. To back the low frequency defficiency of the bookshelf speaker, I added powered sub to handle lower notes. Since the rotel has a high damping factor, it has no problem driving the 8.1 speakers in whatever resulting impedance of the speaker at different audio frequency. And I believe that sonically they are matched.

Lately I have read in a hi-fi magazine comparison of tandem - wharf & rotel beat the sound of marantz paired with a match speaker system of the same company.  This confirms my perception that they are sonically matched.

     
 

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Nov 25, 2004 at 02:36 PM
LETOR,

You hit it right!  Rotel and Wharf is a match.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on Nov 25, 2004 at 02:52 PM
LETOR,

You hit it right!  Rotel and Wharf is a match.  ;D
hindi pala ako nag iisa....

thanks slayer
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jcob on Nov 25, 2004 at 04:22 PM
IMHO, For HT wharfedale has a very high price/performance ratio.

For Audio, I've yet to hear an amp that will make my 8.3 sing (really sing).

cheers...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: garee on Nov 25, 2004 at 04:37 PM
Rotel and Wharf is a match.  ;D

that is for audio.
how about HT? any recommendation on what receiver will be best match with this wharf?

matching, matching   ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Nov 25, 2004 at 04:41 PM
Yammy and HK as i've experienced.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Nov 25, 2004 at 04:47 PM

how about HT? any recommendation on what receiver will be best match with this wharf?

matching, matching   ;D

for HT, my take would be for either HK or Yammy.  I myself use a wharf/yammy system for ht. Try to steer away from denons as i had a very bad experence with such combi.  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: james16 on Nov 25, 2004 at 07:34 PM
Audtion is the best.... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 25, 2004 at 08:48 PM
Agree that Diamonds 8 and 9 is kinda rolled off but for me MATCHING it with a good SS amp (with power) or Tube amp will give other brand run for there money.

A friend owned a 8.3 and Yamaha (surplus) amp and he complain that his 8.3 is kinda bright ;D..  just today got wanderlust 8.3 and paired it with a Denon Integrated amp ( Surplus ) and did not notice the shortcoming of its highs and mids.. na brightan pa ako konti. ;D ;D

7 to 10 Guys home auditioned 9.2 and 9.4 out of the box sounded very very awful but after 3 to 4 hours of listening and hook up with Sir Audioslave Consonance M99 we didn't notice its shortcoming and not ngo ngo yun sound.. hehehehe ;D ;D

Guys ito pala review in Sir audioslave of his m99.. btw we used Diamond 9.2 and 9.4  ;D ;D

Quote
I'm not an avid fan of tube-equipped gears until I auditioned the Consonance m99plus integrated tube amp. Tube amps are misconceived as expensive pieces of equipment and are available only to a privileged and moneyed audiophiles. Inasmuch as this amp had been mass-produced in China, they are reasonably priced to afford tube newbies like me to explore and experience the wonderfully magical sound of tubes. Thus, owning this competitively priced tube amp, sporting the Consonance brand, adds pride of ownership and brings tube quality sound within the budget of almost every music lover.

My sudden swing of preference and growing interest to tube amps was the result of my latest conclusion that CD sound can never approximate the analog sound of the resurrected vinyls. Be that as it may, a tube amp can nonetheless, give life to the clinical and harsh sound of most CD players, which can often sound smoother and more musical when played through a tube amplifier. This premise goes without saying that tube amps are the better amps if compared to solid state amps but since my musical preference is now leaning towards the quieter genre and more relaxing music, it necessarily follows that I have to follow the route that would put me closer to the music. Gone are the days when I crave for the slam-bang and kick-ass bass of a solid state amp. Now, my aural experience begins when I listen to the more soothing sound of tubes that occasionally brings shivers to the bone and spine-tingling sensation when playing some of my favorite CD tracks.

The m99plus features 4 Shuguang 6P3P output tubes (which can be replaced by 6L6s, KT-66s and 5881s), 2 Shuguang 6N8P driver tubes (which can be replaced by 6SN7s and VT-231s), 2 Electro-Harmonix 12AX7EH pre-amp tubes configured in a SRPP circuitry, 3 toroidal transformers, 3 gold plated line inputs, large high quality gold plated 5-way speaker binding posts in 8 ohms and 4 ohms tap, all housed in a massive metal chassis with wooded side panels, weighing almost 18 Kgs. The m99plus is a solid-state rectified amp and equipped with a solidly-built remote control allowing you to adjust the volume.

After almost 1 month of breaking-in, the transformers may have already settled down and are now bringing out the best sound they can get. The bass is fuller, the mids warmer and sweeter but the highs needs further extension and relatively rolled-off without much air. I went to the boondocks to test my amp with the new Wharfedales Diamond 9.2 and 9.4 which were loaned on home audition by Spectra Audio Video to hans adriene. Using a turn table as the source, the amp can easily cope up with fast beat music playing some tracks from the album of the Queen and The Cure without muddling the sound and faithfully bringing out each instrumentation with clarity and detail. Playing around with 6sn7s and 12ax7s spare tubes of some fellow members, we tried tube rolling different tubes to get a combination that would give a better sound. First, we tried changing the stock Shuguang 6N8P driver tubes to Sylvania 6SN7GTB. Remarkably, the amp began to breathe with so much atmosphere and seemingly unrestricted airiness. The soundstage simply became so expansive with dramatic improvement in the high frequency extension. Then we plugged RCA 6SN7GTBs and still obtained a similarly desirable sound than that offered by the stock Chinese tubes but the Sylvania 6SN7GTBs have smoother highs and better soundstage. We did try replacing the Electro-Harmonix 12ax7s with Telefunken 12ax7s and retained the RCA 6SN7GTBs as driver tubes - the result was, I guessed, the most optimal sound the m99+ can muster. Changing the RCA 6SN7GTBs with Sylvania 6SN7GTBs at the driver stage and retaining the Telefunkens on the linestage is a bit overkill and would somewhat give a hint of sibilance playing some Jeena Lodwick tracks. All these tubes were tried with the new Wharfedale Diamond 9.2 speakers bi-wired to the amp using XLO ER-14 and XLO PRO650F.

The amp became more imposing when hooked to kimpao's AMX tube pre-amp tweaked by no less than the emerging tweak master - JojoD. The m99+ with an active tube pre-amp is a tough act to follow as they jointly stirred up so much bloom and ambience. Even fingertip-friction sounds of the guitars can be heard with similar likeness. The sonic improvement conveyed by the pre-amp is like getting the singer closer to the audience, thus, bringing more life to the music.

With better tubes plugged to a good amp like m99+, the Wharfedale Diamond 9.2s suddenly became an instant hit among the listeners. In fact, the 9.2s are preferred over the 9.4s by many since the floorstander would sound boxy and sometimes boomy. One lesson learned is that - spending so much on speakers is not at all necessary as long as you have a good tube amp like the m99+.

Associated Equipment:

Yamaha CD Player
Technics Turn Table
AMX ConTodo MkII Pre-amp
XLO Pro650F
XLO ER14
DIY silver wire interconnects
Wharfedale Diamond 9.2s and 9.4s
Kaya MATCHING talaga  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: saltuhin on Nov 25, 2004 at 09:33 PM
I cant help but react to the things that are being put in this thread but if you consider the PRICE of these speakers you can honestly say that you get what you paid for. Before I was able to choose these speakers, I auditioned Kef and AE Evo, both were better sounding speakers, but both were also 4x and twice more expensive.It just figures that you cant expect the best performance from such low priced gear but it gets the job done.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Nov 25, 2004 at 10:18 PM
Kiko MATCHING,

Ikaw pala nakakuha ng 8.3 ni wanderlust.  ;D Pang ilang Wharfedale mo na yan ha!  :o

Kuya Bodgie

Agree that Diamonds 8 and 9 is kinda rolled off but for me MATCHING it with a good SS amp (with power) or Tube amp will give other brand run for there money.

A friend owned a 8.3 and Yamaha (surplus) amp and he complain that his 8.3 is kinda bright ;D..  just today got wanderlust 8.3 and paired it with a Denon Integrated amp ( Surplus ) and did not notice the shortcoming of its highs and mids.. na brightan pa ako konti. ;D ;D

7 to 10 Guys home auditioned 9.2 and 9.4 out of the box sounded very very awful but after 3 to 4 hours of listening and hook up with Sir Audioslave Consonance M99 we didn't notice its shortcoming and not ngo ngo yun sound.. hehehehe ;D ;D

Guys ito pala review in Sir audioslave of his m99.. btw we used Diamond 9.2 and 9.4  ;D ;D


Kaya MATCHING talaga  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 26, 2004 at 08:42 AM
Kiko MATCHING,

Ikaw pala nakakuha ng 8.3 ni wanderlust.  ;D Pang ilang Wharfedale mo na yan ha!  :o

Kuya Bodgie


3rd na ito pre.. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Nov 26, 2004 at 09:17 AM
I'm also a Diamond 8 user. Yesterday, i tried bi-wiring my 8.3 using the lucent (silver wire) in the HIGH input and XLO ER-14 in the LOW input of the speaker. The sound became more appreciable.... bumuo yung sound nya...... i can say that the highs were extended..... Hindi nakakapagod pakinggan tunog ng system ko ngayon kasi MATCH na silang lahat ;D

Fish to ALL ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aeioun on Nov 26, 2004 at 09:52 AM
sir hans,

you got pm..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mYKi on Nov 26, 2004 at 10:08 AM
I would have to agree that Rotel and Wharfedale would be a good combination. Maybe a Rotel RA-02 and RCD-02 will bring out the best in Wharfedale.

Marantz is a bit laid back and warm sounding so it will even emphasize the lacking top-end of the Diamonds.

I wouldn't recommend it with an inexpensive Pioneer since this is what I had before. It sounded bright and lacked dynamics.

Also, a friend of mine says that Wharfedale still manufactures speakers at their U.K. factory as well as in China. The ones that we have locally are the ones from China. But the ones made in U.K. are for Europe and probably the U.S. Does anyone have info on this or better yet, a link to an article? It is possible that there is a difference in sound and build quality between the 2 factories.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 26, 2004 at 10:23 AM
Also, a friend of mine says that Wharfedale still manufactures speakers at their U.K. factory as well as in China. The ones that we have locally are the ones from China. But the ones made in U.K. are for Europe and probably the U.S. Does anyone have info on this or better yet, a link to an article? It is possible that there is a difference in sound and build quality between the 2 factories.

sir, the diamonds being sold by amazon and other online shops are internally wired w/ monster cable. me sticker (?) sa likod that says so.

yung dito yata wala? tama po ba ako?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Nov 26, 2004 at 10:36 AM
Im also intrigue in those UK manufactured Wharfedale speakers as they've been awarded as Speaker of Year 2004. Has anyone you know owns this kind of speaker and maybe we can compare with China made ones?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 26, 2004 at 10:46 AM
You can always change the internal wires.  That's what many discover after using expensive van den hull, XLO and other branded cables between their amps and speakers.  The last leg between the voice coil and the terminals inside the speaker cabinet is just your hardware variety 14gauge wire, totally nullifying whatever benefits they get from those branded cables. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 26, 2004 at 10:51 AM
Im also intrigue in those UK manufactured Wharfedale speakers as they've been awarded as Speaker of Year 2004. Has anyone you know owns this kind of speaker and maybe we can compare with China made ones?

Those offshore manufacturing and assembly plants of many British and American brands are often supervized by expats and with quality control standards that are no less strict as from those made in the homelands.  Even most of the parts come from their homelands.  They only take advantage of the low labor and overhead costs in China.  So you have much lower SRPs for the markets around China.  The quality is said to be the same. 

I too would be interested if someone can get his hands on two identical models, one made in UK and the other in China, for a comparative review. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 26, 2004 at 11:30 AM
Quote from: kimpao
Hay................. ang isda nga naman ika nga nila nahuhuli sa sariling bibig.  Tama pala yung bubwit ko.   Ahehehehehe.....

bakit sir ala naman akong tinatago e. hehehe.

i plead: not guilty your honor.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Nov 26, 2004 at 11:32 AM
Bros,

1.) Audition condition
3.) MATCHING (with empahsis)

Its all about MATCHING.


This is the rule of thumb - system (performance) matching.  :-[  Not price matching, since price, in these internet age, does not necessarily translates into performance. Low price can be obtained by efficient and low cost production, driven by high demand (economies of scale). Wharfedale is not a typical china business. And I think wharfedale is quite successful in this regard in their manufacturing strategy. Not that they shortchanged us in the Asian region.

The whole sound system is not speakers alone, nor is it amplifier alone, etc.  >:( The whole system is the synergy (matching) of the whole sound chain.

Reputable review center (such as what hi-fi) can be credible at a certain extent and not totally useless. Perhaps they always hit the right synergy or has the right amplifier.  :)

Thus, speakers (like wharf 8) can not be faulted alone, the whole of the system chain can be  :o. But since, speakers has been tagged by some system builders as the first choice in the chain (you start your audio by choosing your speakers first), it follows that you have to find the right amp for the chosen speaker. If this route is to be taken, then it follows it is the amp which can be faulted (not match)  :P . Probably your age can be faulted also - as in avphile1 case!  ;D. We the elderlies  :-[ should pick the brighter speakers  ;D!

Some amps made ngongo out of wharf. Many amps made a trash of a certain B&W model (due to its very low impedance at ecrtain bass frequency) also. I learned this also with wharf. My 8.3 is not sounding as before when it was hooked to 630 - have not changed internal wiring yet (dont see a need for that)  ;) - only driver amp.

My next attempt is aimed at x-over. From the initial observation of the x-over, it seems a 2.75ohm resistor is in series before the tweeter  ???  - limiting the power going into the tweeter - an estimated 25% blocked power to the tweeter. I will try to short and find out how it will affect the speaker performance.   :'(

Still 8.3 can beat even the most expensive speakers beyond its price range.  8)  This has been proven before. You only need the right amp for it.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 26, 2004 at 11:33 AM
Quote from: slayer
Bili na ng Diamond 9.4 tapos 4 years break-in period ulit! Ahehehehe...

kaya nga ayaw ko na sir e, nakakapagod yong puro break in, by the time broken in na sawa ka na sa speaker. hehehehe.  ::)

antay-antay na alng ako sa buy n sell for a broken-in 9.4   >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ADM202E on Nov 26, 2004 at 11:40 AM
Any reviews  or owners of 9.3? I saw this at Spectra. Malaki pala and maganda ang dating, have'nt  audition though. Any review please.

Im planning to dispose my 8.1. Attention 8.1 buyers.........hehehe 6months old palang po ito....... ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Nov 26, 2004 at 11:45 AM


This is the rule of thumb - system (performance) matching.  :-[  Not price matching, since price, in these internet age, does not necessarily translates into performance. Low price can be obtained by efficient and low cost production, driven by high demand (economies of scale). Wharfedale is not a typical china business. And I think wharfedale is quite successful in this regard in their manufacturing strategy. Not that they shortchanged us in the Asian region.

The whole sound system is not speakers alone, nor is it amplifier alone, etc.  >:( The whole system is the synergy (matching) of the whole sound chain.

Reputable review center (such as what hi-fi) can be credible at a certain extent and not totally useless. Perhaps they always hit the right synergy or has the right amplifier.  :)

Thus, speakers (like wharf 8) can not be faulted alone, the whole of the system chain can be  :o. But since, speakers has been tagged by some system builders as the first choice in the chain (you start your audio by choosing your speakers first), it follows that you have to find the right amp for the chosen speaker. If this route is to be taken, then it follows it is the amp which can be faulted (not match)  :P . Probably your age can be faulted also - as in avphile1 case!  ;D. We the elderlies  :-[ should pick the brighter speakers  ;D!

Some amps made ngongo out of wharf. Many amps made a trash of a certain B&W model (due to its very low impedance at ecrtain bass frequency) also. I learned this also with wharf. My 8.3 is not sounding as before when it was hooked to 630 - have not changed internal wiring yet (dont see a need for that)  ;) - only driver amp.

My next attempt is aimed at x-over. From the initial observation of the x-over, it seems a 2.75ohm resistor is in series before the tweeter  ???  - limiting the power going into the tweeter - an estimated 25% blocked power to the tweeter. I will try to short and find out how it will affect the speaker performance.   :'(

Still 8.3 can beat even the most expensive speakers beyond its price range.  8)  This has been proven before. You only need the right amp for it.

I very well agree with you on this, sir.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 26, 2004 at 12:06 PM
i have observed here that the amps most commonly used together with the wharfes are avr, with lo if not limited power ratings. this has been my case to when i was still using a yammy (100 wpc daw) for my previuos whafes.... for HT i have no qualms but on audio there are a lot of things to be pouty about.

things changed when i got myself a much more powerful amp (170 wpc), a sansui, and had once again a chance to use a wharfe (8.3 to be exact) power plus sufficient break-in period equates to a much more ejoyable listening experience.... minus all the things i thought wharfe is incapable of before.

my take, part of the matching process is the power of the amp as well.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 26, 2004 at 12:13 PM
Guys,

I notice with power hungry speaker like Wharfedale a high current or high powered amp will do the trick :) :) just like Dynaudio or even Sonus Faber you need good amp to drive them.

Paano kaya kung Sonus speaker mo tapos di high powered amp?? hehehehe..

Matching talaga!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 26, 2004 at 12:16 PM
sir hans,

you got pm..

Replied to your pm sir.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: garee on Nov 26, 2004 at 12:18 PM
is this a good match for yammy?
fronts - 9.2
surrounds - 8.1
center - 8 or 9 center?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 26, 2004 at 12:33 PM


My next attempt is aimed at x-over. From the initial observation of the x-over, it seems a 2.75ohm resistor is in series before the tweeter  ???  - limiting the power going into the tweeter - an estimated 25% blocked power to the tweeter. I will try to short and find out how it will affect the speaker performance.   :'(


That resistor in series with the tweeter must have been put there, as in many other crossover networks I've seen, to act as a voltage divider to make a flat frequency response overall as per spectographic analysis, especially if the tweeter has greater sensitivity than the woofer.   Also might be there to tame a peaking at the crossover point, assuming the tweet has a non-linear response in that area.   Taking it out will certainly increase the tweeter's response, making it brighter.  But if the resistor was there to limit the voltage, taking it out might fry the tweeter at loud volumes, especially if the tweeters have small magnets, indicating lower power handling.    But, that shouldn't deter any effort at tweaking.  Just a cautionary thought.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 26, 2004 at 12:34 PM
generally sir, and only for HT, a yammy is a good much with any wharfe models, specially the 8 series (proven and tested na)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 26, 2004 at 01:05 PM
is this a good match for yammy?
fronts - 9.2
surrounds - 8.1
center - 8 or 9 center?

HT - Good
Audio - No good ( or get another Integrated amp or Tube ) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: rony on Nov 26, 2004 at 01:23 PM


HT - Good
Audio - No good ( or get another Integrated amp or Tube ) ;D ;D ;D

senor hans hinay hinay lang ke kapatid garee. ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: rony on Nov 26, 2004 at 01:25 PM
Guys,

I notice with power hungry speaker like Wharfedale a high current or high powered amp will do the trick :) :) just like Dynaudio or even Sonus Faber you need good amp to drive them.

Paano kaya kung Sonus speaker mo tapos di high powered amp?? hehehehe..

Matching talaga!!
Tunog transistor radio yan.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: garee on Nov 26, 2004 at 02:19 PM


HT - Good
Audio - No good ( or get another Integrated amp or Tube ) ;D ;D ;D


Good lang po sa HT...

as for the audio, alam ko meron kaming lumang 4-deck sansui component at Boman amplifier, mga for repair nasa stock room.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Nov 26, 2004 at 02:22 PM


That resistor in series with the tweeter must have been put there, as in many other crossover networks I've seen, to act as a voltage divider to make a flat frequency response overall as per spectographic analysis, especially if the tweeter has greater sensitivity than the woofer.   Also might be there to tame a peaking at the crossover point, assuming the tweet has a non-linear response in that area.   Taking it out will certainly increase the tweeter's response, making it brighter.  But if the resistor was there to limit the voltage, taking it out might fry the tweeter at loud volumes, especially if the tweeters have small magnets, indicating lower power handling.    But, that shouldn't deter any effort at tweaking.  Just a cautionary thought.

Exactly! flat frequency response to the one who originally designed the x-over. to flatten an amplified frequency is to reduce the power that recreates the frequency. reducing the voltage is in fact reduction of the power going thru the tweeter.

Maybe their reference source is giving so much high frequency that it entails for the x-over designer to put the value of resistor (in fact 2x 5.5ohms in parallel to make it dissipate 10watts). Now that we use typical amps, we hear these reduction as softer tweeter sound.

I dont think it will fry your tweeter, assuming your tweeter (say at 6ohms), the 2.75ohm is basically a reduction of 40% power to tweeter. Shorting the resistor will just add the 40% removed from the original power. Frying can still occur even if your resistor is there, just by providing clipped power to the speaker (resulting from overdriven amp). The capacitor in series still serves as protection from low frequency. If it becomes bright, then you know the value must be somewhere between 0 and 2.75 ohms.

Will have to hear the transition in x-over point to determine if it is for the better of for the worse, and from there make extra adjustment if it is really necessary. I have other radical things in mind to do in the x-over if i have more time.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Nov 26, 2004 at 02:45 PM
is this a good match for yammy?
fronts - 9.2
surrounds - 8.1
center - 8 or 9 center?

I have not heard x50 series. Words have it that Yamaha somehow change the sound characteristics of their amps in the x50 series. How true, idont know.

The surest thing is to listen extensively for the combo in stereo mode only. Forget HT listening - its yamaha's forte - you will not go wrong with Yamaha in this dept. Your high risk is basically in music (stereo) listening. And you know what is listenable for yourself. We dont know that. Do your assignment and audition.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Nov 30, 2004 at 11:15 AM

My next attempt is aimed at x-over. From the initial observation of the x-over, it seems a 2.75ohm resistor is in series before the tweeter  ???  - limiting the power going into the tweeter - an estimated 25% blocked power to the tweeter. I will try to short and find out how it will affect the speaker performance.   :'(


OKay, it's done. It is a resistor in series with the tweeter, limiting power into the tweeter. Shorting the resistor will increase the loudness of your tweeter. If it is too loud for your taste, you can parallel resistor to those resistor already in place (2 x 5.5 ohms/5watts).

I put mine in a shorted position, and for my taste, I will leave it shorted. I replay all my favorite and reference CD and I like the 8.3 now even in the high frequency audio spectrum.

Bycomputation, Your tweeter has 2.75ohms/10watts in series to tweeter. You can vary this value (to suit your sound inclination) by putting parallel resistor to the one already installed. If the tweeter is assumed to be at 6 ohms also, the following power increase to the tweeter can be approximated:

paralleled     increase in tweeter
 resistor       power     loudness
ohms/5W        %            dB
-----------   --------    ----------
   none             0             0
   8-10             7           0.3
   6-7               9           0.4
     5               12          0.5
     4               14          0.6
     3               17          0.7
     2               21          0.8
   1.5              25            1
     1               29          1.1
    0.5             35          1.3
 shorted         45           1.6
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 30, 2004 at 12:53 PM
sir,

has there been any change in the clarity, etc. of your speaker aside from the loudness that you mentioned?

i assume by the looks of things your highs have improved.... significantly? sir?

thnx.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Nov 30, 2004 at 04:49 PM
sir,

has there been any change in the clarity, etc. of your speaker aside from the loudness that you mentioned?

i assume by the looks of things your highs have improved.... significantly? sir?

thnx.

There is no effect in clarity - the loudness of the tweeter is the one that will change. This means the tonal balance of the speaker will change. Kung dinig mo nong una e soft, shorting it will make it somehow mas balance. If it is already balance currently and you short it, then it will give you more high freq energy which you may not want.

The table above can guide you how much loudness it can add to the tweeter sound. multiply the dB column by 10 and you get approximate % of increase in loudness. Thus, if you prefer it shorted, then that will be approximately 16% louder.

This is easy to do. Get a wire with alligator clip at each other end. Clip it at both ends of the resistors (2 white rectangular block on top of each other) in the xross-over at the back, directly behind the speaker banana terminals. You will notice the difference in tweeter loudness. If you are cautious, just put your AVR at low volumes enough to hear the sound. then listen. You want other value of resistor in parallel, then insert resistor between the clip. You dont want it, then remove the clip. You want it, retain the clip.

I like it now as shorted. It makes my 8.3 sefinition better because I can contrast the bass & midrange better with a more audible high frequency around than before.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: akyatbundok on Nov 30, 2004 at 05:39 PM
good idea sir, i wonder if this can be done externally in case the speaker is bi-wireable?  some of the old jap speakers have a knob to control the tweeter level, wanderlust's speaker is a good example, we adjust the tweeter level on-demand based on the music being played..... maybe a small adjustable gadget can be plugged between the hi-freq speaker terminal and the speaker wire.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dvh on Nov 30, 2004 at 10:23 PM
ako rin bibili na ng Euros8 sa December!  teka last month pa 5560 ang cost ng euros8 flrstander ah? so di pa nagbababa tama o mali?

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dvh on Nov 30, 2004 at 10:27 PM
sorry wrong post po!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 01, 2004 at 06:34 AM
good idea sir, i wonder if this can be done externally in case the speaker is bi-wireable?  some of the old jap speakers have a knob to control the tweeter level, wanderlust's speaker is a good example, we adjust the tweeter level on-demand based on the music being played..... maybe a small adjustable gadget can be plugged between the hi-freq speaker terminal and the speaker wire.

a potentiometer peharps Sir akyat?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 01, 2004 at 08:02 AM
Guys,

Meron na ba ibang color??
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: D0Hbert on Dec 01, 2004 at 08:21 AM
Ideally, when doing crossovers, its more prudent to avoid resistors whether in series or parallel with the drivers, unless the sensitivity of the drivers are really way way off. Resistors just suck up power from the amp. Try changing the crossover point, make it a bit higher than the stock crossover point if you feel the tweeter is overworked or is getting saturated. If you have to place a resistor in series make sure you also add the corresponding resistor in parallel, so that the amp will see the load at the original 8ohm load. Problem with adding a series resistor (2.75ohm) only to for example an 8ohm load (tweeter), the amp sees a 10.75ohm load, so you must parallel another resistor to the tweet so that the amp sees the original 8ohm load. It sounds softer kasi 10ohm load ang nakikita kaya humina yung tunog, put one in parallel, lets say 8ohms, so kita ng amp ay 4ohm load yung tweeter, thus lalakas 2x yan (i think). If you really have to use resistors, make sure you compute the values you need to maintain the 8ohm load for the amp, one resistor in series and another in parallel, tawag dito btw is L-pad. Or you can buy an adjustable L-pad for the tweet, kasi kahit anong pihit gawin mo dyan, maintained yung 8 ohm load sa amp. Or you may try this trick, series capacitor sa tweet (+), resistor parallel, then volume pot (-). Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 01, 2004 at 10:11 AM
good idea sir, i wonder if this can be done externally in case the speaker is bi-wireable?  some of the old jap speakers have a knob to control the tweeter level, wanderlust's speaker is a good example, we adjust the tweeter level on-demand based on the music being played..... maybe a small adjustable gadget can be plugged between the hi-freq speaker terminal and the speaker wire.

While You can insert the potentiometer between the hi and lo terminals, you'd still be limited to  the current tweeter response at the max position as the potentiometer will just attenuate the existing highs.  What aHobbit did was effectively increase the power going to the highs. You can't do that by just inserting a potentiometer to the hi terminals.  (Ofcourse the other option is to do active bi-amplification on the tweeter.)

In order to have a variable control over the  tweeter response, you'll have to tinker with the crossover network.  There are two ways for the diamond speaker in question : You can replace the subject  fixed resistor in the crossover circuit with a variable L-pad or potentiometer of sufficient power handling ability and value (one terminal not connected).  0 resistance means a short hence you get the most available current to the tweeter, the highest potentiometer value should hover around the value of the resistor replaced for an attentuated tweeter.


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 01, 2004 at 10:34 AM
Ideally, when doing crossovers, its more prudent to avoid resistors whether in series or parallel with the drivers, unless the sensitivity of the drivers are really way way off. Resistors just suck up power from the amp. Try changing the crossover point, make it a bit higher than the stock crossover point if you feel the tweeter is overworked or is getting saturated. If you have to place a resistor in series make sure you also add the corresponding resistor in parallel, so that the amp will see the load at the original 8ohm load. Problem with adding a series resistor (2.75ohm) only to for example an 8ohm load (tweeter), the amp sees a 10.75ohm load, so you must parallel another resistor to the tweet so that the amp sees the original 8ohm load. It sounds softer kasi 10ohm load ang nakikita kaya humina yung tunog, put one in parallel, lets say 8ohms, so kita ng amp ay 4ohm load yung tweeter, thus lalakas 2x yan (i think). If you really have to use resistors, make sure you compute the values you need to maintain the 8ohm load for the amp, one resistor in series and another in parallel, tawag dito btw is L-pad. Or you can buy an adjustable L-pad for the tweet, kasi kahit anong pihit gawin mo dyan, maintained yung 8 ohm load sa amp. Or you may try this trick, series capacitor sa tweet (+), resistor parallel, then volume pot (-). Hope this helps.


True,   You are talking mainly of voice coil or DC resistance.  I'd be more reluctant when handling woofers.  But tweeters generally present very high overall impedances to the amp.  Changing incrementally any of the resistive, capacitive and inductive value on the tweeter path can either reduce or increase a tweeter's overall response with little adverse effect on the amp.  What ahobbit did was to change the resistive value, probably denting just a little of the overall impedance to allow more high frequency current to get to the tweeter.  I don't see it as a problem, unless the tweeter can't handle that much current.   The resistor could be there just to tame a more sensitive tweet.  In which case, taking it out will just make the tweet louder. 

I personally prefer not to tinker with crossovers of well designed speakers.  I'd rather replace the entire crossover network if I had to.  If the listener thinks the tweeter is too soft, replacing the tweeter with a more sensitive one can often make a greater sonic difference.  Without touching the crossovers nor having any effect on the amp.  But in the spirit of experimentation, tinkering with the crossovers can alter responses and give the technikcally knowledgeable  listener what he wants. ;D



Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Dec 01, 2004 at 10:54 AM
good idea sir, i wonder if this can be done externally in case the speaker is bi-wireable?  some of the old jap speakers have a knob to control the tweeter level, wanderlust's speaker is a good example, we adjust the tweeter level on-demand based on the music being played..... maybe a small adjustable gadget can be plugged between the hi-freq speaker terminal and the speaker wire.

Yes. I have a vintage akai speaker (with 10inch woofer). at the back is a pot that you can tweak to adjust tweeter energy to adjust tonal balance of the speaker system. It can be used, just ensure the pot is capable to sink at least 5W of power - I am just not familiar with this gadget.

However, I have not thorougly check the tweeter connection. On my initial assessment, if you want to put the gadget in the HF terminal itself will entail rewiring of the cross-over so that it will not affect the original cross-over points set on the circuit board. This is because the HF terminal is not directly connected to tweeter but to its cross over components - shunted to this HF terminal is an inductor to filter out low frequency going into the tweeter.

But if you are maverick enough, you can bore a hole   :o  in the 8.3 just to insert a pot there shunted to the resistors installed in the cross-over board - or totally replacing the resistors themselves.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Dec 01, 2004 at 11:05 AM
Ideally, when doing crossovers, its more prudent to avoid resistors whether in series or parallel with the drivers, unless the sensitivity of the drivers are really way way off. Resistors just suck up power from the amp.


That's why I removed that resistors - because of the ideal thing. However, if I am very much satisfied with the 8.3 in its high frequency, I could have left the resistor as is.

In my personal level, I dont want life to be more difficult than it is. Simplify things if it works anyway. Tweaking the cross-over means you have to know the value of your inductors   ???. It is easy for caps - just read it.  ;D . Moreso, the time to spend resoldering the whole thing and still may not deliver the expected results.  >:(

This is a simple tweak to try - less time - no danger - involves you ears. Play your reference CDs and listen carefully. If you like it, keep it. If you dont, remove it. If you want to further adjust, experiment with resistor values. I think it is more time consuming browsing thru this thread.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Dec 01, 2004 at 11:14 AM


While You can insert the potentiometer between the hi and lo terminals, you'd still be limited to  the current tweeter response at the max position as the potentiometer will just attenuate the existing highs.  What aHobbit did was effectively increase the power going to the highs. You can't do that by just inserting a potentiometer to the hi terminals.  (Ofcourse the other option is to do active bi-amplification on the tweeter.)



I explained already, it may not be on the HF terminal - but it can be done somewhere else! Yes, bore a hole somewhere!  :o  I love my speakers!!!   ;D  I guess, I am not as brave as Jerix!



In order to have a variable control over the  tweeter response, you'll have to tinker with the crossover network.  There are two ways for the diamond speaker in question : You can replace the subject  fixed resistor in the crossover circuit with a variable L-pad or potentiometer of sufficient power handling ability and value (one terminal not connected).  0 resistance means a short hence you get the most available current to the tweeter, the highest potentiometer value should hover around the value of the resistor replaced for an attentuated tweeter.


This is if you want it variable - perhaps based on your listening moods. But your amp is fixed in a way, so perhaps you can temporarily shunt a high-powered pot with the resistor just to tweak which values suits you best. Then remove the pot and replace it with fixed value resistor and close your speakers.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 01, 2004 at 03:51 PM
Guys,

Those aspiring for other color other than black baka next year na daw labo na this year magkaroon ng iba color..


kaya decided na ako.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Dec 01, 2004 at 03:58 PM
Guys,

Those aspiring for other color other than black baka next year na daw labo na this year magkaroon ng iba color..


kaya decided na ako.. ;D

next pa sir? naku baka kung san na naman mapunta pera ko :(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 01, 2004 at 04:01 PM


next pa sir? naku baka kung san na naman mapunta pera ko :(


Bili na baka maubos pa moolah.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 01, 2004 at 04:04 PM
Guys,

Those aspiring for other color other than black baka next year na daw labo na this year magkaroon ng iba color..


kaya decided na ako.. ;D

Nice kOya HaNs! suportahan ka namin ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 01, 2004 at 04:09 PM
hmmm...meron kayang Neon yellow para sa pre-amp ni sir wanderlust?  >:D >:D >:D Fish men..  O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 01, 2004 at 04:58 PM


Nice kOya HaNs! suportahan ka namin ;D

Hehehehe malalaman natin yan this Saturday ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: j_albert22 on Dec 01, 2004 at 05:06 PM


Hehehehe malalaman natin yan this Saturday ;D ;D
sent u pm ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 02, 2004 at 06:46 AM


Hehehehe malalaman natin yan this Saturday ;D ;D

hmm.... may iba na bang kulay kOya? I smell something ah...  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 02, 2004 at 08:48 AM
next year pa daw dadating yung ibang color.... pero may nangati na ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 02, 2004 at 08:53 AM
next year pa daw dadating yung ibang color.... pero may nangati na ;D ;D

Tama pala ang hinala ko at may 9.2 na naman na nakawala sa bilihan  ;D. May kasama na bang stands nung binili nya?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 02, 2004 at 09:15 AM
Laging tulog yung bubwit mo pre ;D ;D panay exercise na nga yung bagong 9.2 kasi may marathon daw na sasalihan ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: garee on Dec 02, 2004 at 10:03 AM
what would be the better application for this 9.2?  audio only or HT fronts?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 02, 2004 at 10:07 AM
what would be the better application for this 9.2?  audio only or HT fronts?


we have only tried it in audio...and for the price, it's a good buy! Haven't tested it for HT  ??? yet.....  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: zakkaz on Dec 02, 2004 at 10:48 AM
Guys,

Those aspiring for other color other than black baka next year na daw labo na this year magkaroon ng iba color..


kaya decided na ako.. ;D
congrats sa bago mong speaker
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 02, 2004 at 11:02 AM
what would be the better application for this 9.2? audio only or HT fronts?


we even tested it with tube amps and its bang for a buck talaga! In fact, may isang manong ng maligayang nakikinig ng diamond 9.... Congrats pala kung sino man yung manong na nakabili ng 9 series ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Dec 02, 2004 at 11:10 AM
congrats sa new owner ng 9.2.......... musta overnight break in sir?  pagkaka alam ko d na pinakingan out of the box diretso na break-in!

hay, basta ako decided na rin.... to wait for the silver color. hehehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iceman90a on Dec 02, 2004 at 11:12 AM
what would be the better application for this 9.2? audio only or HT fronts?


i've set up a pair as fronts for my uncle's HT - also used 9.1 for surrounds :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: garee on Dec 02, 2004 at 01:16 PM


i've set up a pair as fronts for my uncle's HT - also used 9.1 for surrounds :)

sir iceman, what amp/avr did you pair it with?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 02, 2004 at 02:18 PM
what would be the better application for this 9.2?  audio only or HT fronts?


Pre kung maganda sa Audio mas lalo maganda sa HT.. we tried that before with Gainclone amp and Tube amp both have excellent result 2 THUMBS up!!  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 02, 2004 at 02:30 PM
congrats sa new owner ng 9.2.......... musta overnight break in sir?  pagkaka alam ko d na pinakingan out of the box diretso na break-in!

hay, basta ako decided na rin.... to wait for the silver color. hehehe.

Uy ok yan ha.. out of the box di na pinakingan..Congrats!! ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: rony on Dec 02, 2004 at 02:34 PM
Master ???? congrats ako namman ang babati  :D
Pero payo ko lang wag mo itabi doon sa ls3 parang alam ko na mangyayari. ahihihi  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 02, 2004 at 03:00 PM
Master ???? congrats ako namman ang babati  :D
Pero payo ko lang wag mo itabi doon sa ls3 parang alam ko na mangyayari. ahihihi  ;D ;D

Rock na lang music.. baka meron pa laban.. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iceman90a on Dec 02, 2004 at 04:19 PM


sir iceman, what amp/avr did you pair it with?

A Yamaha DSP-A1, ganda nga eh... arborin ko sana papalitan ko ng 430 ;D >:D
(http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/products/ht/img/dspa1.gif)

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 02, 2004 at 08:12 PM


A Yamaha DSP-A1, ganda nga eh... arborin ko sana papalitan ko ng 430 ;D >:D
(http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/products/ht/img/dspa1.gif)



Bihira ka KOya Iceman.. Flagship yan palit sa entry level.. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 05, 2004 at 12:26 PM
Wharf 9.2 na bago, congrats sa mayari nito..... idol kita!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: rony on Dec 05, 2004 at 12:48 PM
Sayang naman di natin na todo speakers kahapon.  :(
Sayang din kasi balita ko puros contodo ang gamit noong may-ari.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 05, 2004 at 07:10 PM
Sayang naman di natin na todo speakers kahapon.  :(
Sayang din kasi balita ko puros contodo ang gamit noong may-ari.  ;D



Sir Rony,

Palagay ko magkakaroon pa tayo ng pagkakataon para dyan.... para naman talagang ma-exercise ng lubos!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 05, 2004 at 08:01 PM
Sayang naman di natin na todo speakers kahapon.  :(
Sayang din kasi balita ko puros contodo ang gamit noong may-ari.  ;D


According dun sa owner eh break in stage pa daw kaya nag-iingat pa.. ;D ;D pero mukhang kaya pa naman nun 9.2 eh.. ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 05, 2004 at 08:16 PM
Sayang naman di natin na todo speakers kahapon.  :(
Sayang din kasi balita ko puros contodo ang gamit noong may-ari.  ;D



Di kaya natatakot lang?? hehehehehe sa Eico HF-87 vintage amp.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 05, 2004 at 09:05 PM


According dun sa owner eh break in stage pa daw kaya nag-iingat pa.. ;D ;D pero mukhang kaya pa naman nun 9.2 eh.. ::)

Cge Sir, sa susunod na exercise simulan natin sa 1 o'clock  >:D Kidding aside, bilib talaga ako sa 9.2 na yan....  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 06, 2004 at 08:48 AM
Biro nyo yung 9.2 di pumiyok......... yung may ari ang pumipiyok pag nilalakasan ang volume ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Dec 06, 2004 at 12:28 PM
oy, namasyal na pala yang 9.2 na yan ha.....  mana sa k0yang na evo, lakwatsero..........   
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 06, 2004 at 03:37 PM
Nag-eehersisyo lang yun Sir... Naghahamon lagi ng katunggali kaya parating wala sa bahay..  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 06, 2004 at 04:34 PM
Nag-eehersisyo lang yun Sir... Naghahamon lagi ng katunggali kaya parating wala sa bahay..  ;D

parang basagolero yan 9.2 ah panay hamon ng kalaban.. ;D ;D pero Galing talaga di nag ngo ngo sound high and mids labas..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: rony on Dec 06, 2004 at 04:47 PM
ayus ka talaga kuya. idol talaga kita pag dating sa ganyan speakers
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 06, 2004 at 04:52 PM
ayus ka talaga kuya. idol talaga kita pag dating sa ganyan speakers

Salamat masta rony  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: rony on Dec 06, 2004 at 04:57 PM
lumambot ba mga kasukasuan noon woofer. hehehe dehin natodo kaya naman pala.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 06, 2004 at 05:05 PM
lumambot ba mga kasukasuan noon woofer. hehehe dehin natodo kaya naman pala.

Di pa rin ata masyado balita ko sa owner eh dapat nga nilakas pa volume..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Dec 06, 2004 at 05:58 PM
sa next session ako na mismo maglalakas ng volume para labas na ang dapat ilabas! hehehe.

lalo na pag nakatalikod ang my ari   >:D  >:D  >:D

fishpo..... kung sino ka man.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 06, 2004 at 07:35 PM
sa next session ako na mismo maglalakas ng volume para labas na ang dapat ilabas! hehehe.

lalo na pag nakatalikod ang my ari   >:D  >:D  >:D

fishpo..... kung sino ka man.  ;D

Sir, mukhang mahirap yang balak mo... "The owner never takes off his eyes on it" specially kapag on-going na ang ehersisyo nyang 9.2 na yan.. :P
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 06, 2004 at 09:22 PM


Sir, mukhang mahirap yang balak mo... "The owner never takes off his eyes on it" specially kapag on-going na ang ehersisyo nyang 9.2 na yan.. :P

Pwede oras na magYOsi sya lakasan mo agad volume.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 07, 2004 at 08:37 AM
Ayan! may go signal na kayo kay KOya para lakasan ang level ng exercise ng 9.2 nya ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 07, 2004 at 09:46 AM
Ayan! may go signal na kayo kay KOya para lakasan ang level ng exercise ng 9.2 nya ;D

Hehehehe KID_lat wag mo lang papahuli.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 07, 2004 at 10:03 AM


Hehehehe KID_lat wag mo lang papahuli.. ;D ;D

Nakow kundi babayaran mo agad yang 9.2 na yan...  :o Ika nga you cracked it..you bought it..  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Novice01 on Dec 07, 2004 at 10:30 AM
(http://www.pioneer.com.sg/storefront/ImagesOnline/VSX-C302-S.jpg)
A Slim, but versatile 5.1-channel A/V Receiver to match equally slim DVD players


can i use the wharfedale speaker on this system?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 07, 2004 at 10:47 AM
Novice1,

Yes but You will have to audition that AVR with wharfedale speakers. It depends on your preference.  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 07, 2004 at 10:52 AM
Hans,

Tiwala ko sa kakayahan ng toy mo na yan, pwedeng ilaban sa ST Presidency

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 07, 2004 at 11:17 AM
Hans,

Tiwala ko sa kakayahan ng toy mo na yan, pwedeng ilaban sa ST Presidency

 ;D ;D ;D

Nambola pa KID bili na kasi.. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 07, 2004 at 11:18 AM
(http://www.pioneer.com.sg/storefront/ImagesOnline/VSX-C302-S.jpg)
A Slim, but versatile 5.1-channel A/V Receiver to match equally slim DVD players


can i use the wharfedale speaker on this system?

Bro, does it comes with speaker? can you post spec to be sure. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Philander on Dec 07, 2004 at 11:19 AM
(http://www.pioneer.com.sg/storefront/ImagesOnline/VSX-C302-S.jpg)
A Slim, but versatile 5.1-channel A/V Receiver to match equally slim DVD players


can i use the wharfedale speaker on this system?

Yes you can use but I suggest that you use high-sensitivity speakers for this receiver.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Dec 07, 2004 at 12:42 PM
pioneer ba yan pre? post modin specs para mas logical yong suggestions. so long as match yong power to the power requirements of the wharfe, go na yan.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Dec 07, 2004 at 12:46 PM
next session akin ka 9.2, lalagay ko lang si master jo, akyat, control, j_albert, sa gilid ko tyak d nako kita.............  walang huli d ba.  ;D

oist fish tayo mga papa ha....    ;D  ;D  ;D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 07, 2004 at 01:24 PM
next session akin ka 9.2, lalagay ko lang si master jo, akyat, control, j_albert, sa gilid ko tyak d nako kita.............  walang huli d ba.  ;D

oist fish tayo mga papa ha....    ;D  ;D  ;D



tsk tsk...sama talga balak ng mama sa 9.2 mo kOya...Sir wanderlust...bili na kasi..  >:D BEST BUY yan..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 07, 2004 at 09:57 PM
OffCONTrol,

Di nya type 9.2 pang 9.4 ang beauty ni wanderlust.. hintay lang ng brown. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jdg on Dec 08, 2004 at 12:10 AM
(http://www.pioneer.com.sg/storefront/ImagesOnline/VSX-C302-S.jpg)
A Slim, but versatile 5.1-channel A/V Receiver to match equally slim DVD players


can i use the wharfedale speaker on this system?

VSX-C302-S
A Slim, but versatile 5.1-channel A/V Receiver to match equally slim DVD players
Features

    * Maximum power:75W x 5ch (6 ohms)
    * Built-in DTS/Dolby Digital/Dolby Pro Logic II decorder
    * 96kHz/24-bit audio D/A converter
    * SR+ Terminal
    * Advanced Surround :Advanced Movie, Advanced Music, Expanded Theater, Virtual Surround Back, 5ch Stereo, TV Surround, Game Mode,Phones Surround, Sports, Virtual Surround
    * S-Bass
    * Dialog Enhancement
    * Midnight Listening Mode

magkano kaya ito?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 08, 2004 at 06:59 AM
OffCONTrol,

Di nya type 9.2 pang 9.4 ang beauty ni wanderlust.. hintay lang ng brown. ;D

Onga ano..para naka-tone sa rack nya yung color ng 9.4   ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: timn8ter on Dec 08, 2004 at 08:01 AM
Someone has one of these, I'm sure.
(http://www2.panasonic.com/static/models/sa-xr50s.jpg)
Panasonic SA-XR50S
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sebman on Dec 08, 2004 at 10:01 AM
uy congrats kuya.... panalo yang speakers na yan...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Dec 08, 2004 at 10:55 AM
hehehe...........


brown nga, hopes ko.

gaganda ng mga avr na yan ah, magkakano kaya mga yan?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 08, 2004 at 01:00 PM
wanderlust,

Musta ibang color mong hunting?? black na lang..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Dec 08, 2004 at 02:36 PM
wala pa rin sir......... naka tuon na sa ibang project utak ko ngayon
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 08, 2004 at 02:43 PM
Oist! anong project yan? road construction ba ;D ;D Oo nga naman wag ng maghintay ng ibang color matagal pa yun >:D tsaka wala ka ng bonus nun :P
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Dec 08, 2004 at 05:00 PM
hehehe..........

project "T" sir..... details are still "for the eyes only" as of the moment, once de classified will post it sir.  ::)  ;D  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 08, 2004 at 05:58 PM
hehehe..........

project "T" sir..... details are still "for the eyes only" as of the moment, once de classified will post it sir.  ::)  ;D  >:D

Wow! Ang mama pa-suspense na naman..  ;D Unahin mo muna Sir itong Wharfe  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: edboy7 on Dec 08, 2004 at 09:16 PM
mga bossing :) available na ba yung 9.6? how much? thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on Dec 08, 2004 at 11:22 PM
How will the diamond series perform with Technics AV receivers? Anybody.....please.....thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Dec 09, 2004 at 11:18 AM
mga bossing :) available na ba yung 9.6? how much? thanks
no news yet about the 9.6
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Dec 09, 2004 at 12:08 PM

no news yet about the 9.6

sir how about wood color for 9.2?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Dec 09, 2004 at 12:40 PM
Quote from: control
Wow! Ang mama pa-suspense na naman..   Unahin mo muna Sir itong Wharfe


syempre nasa plano pa rin yan sir............. basta ba wood color na.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 09, 2004 at 01:13 PM

 

syempre nasa plano pa rin yan sir............. basta ba wood color na.  ;D

Nyak! Next pa yun Sir...  ;D Kaya bili na today hangat nandyan pa ang budget..  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Dec 09, 2004 at 01:58 PM
hehehe....... madali lang yang budget sir, ang mahirap yong kulay.... tsareng!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 09, 2004 at 02:01 PM
hehehe....... madali lang yang budget sir, ang mahirap yong kulay.... tsareng!

Eh yun naman pala eh...tara na kasi magpagawa na tayo ng tooooootttt..... bilis na ...dali...next year na yang wharfe  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Dec 10, 2004 at 10:52 AM


sir how about wood color for 9.2?
according to the distributor there are other colors in their next shipment
the new colors MIGHT arrive here last or second to the last week of this month
n it might be out in the market by january maybe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 10, 2004 at 12:07 PM

 

syempre nasa plano pa rin yan sir............. basta ba wood color na.  ;D

Pre bili na para ma enjoy mo na.. Christmas and New Year... :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 10, 2004 at 12:21 PM
still waiting for the silver color daw ;D ;D tsaka iba pinag-iipunan nyan >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Dec 10, 2004 at 03:04 PM
Quote from: spectraav
ccording to the distributor there are other colors in their next shipment
the new colors MIGHT arrive here last or second to the last week of this month
n it might be out in the market by january maybe

o e2 na hinihintay ko! tamang tama pang valentines   ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Dec 10, 2004 at 05:08 PM

according to the distributor there are other colors in their next shipment
the new colors MIGHT arrive here last or second to the last week of this month
n it might be out in the market by january maybe

thanks sir! magandang balita ito, so konting tiis nalang  sa mga nagaabang ng ibang  color tulad ko. hehehe..... :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 12, 2004 at 07:04 PM


thanks sir! magandang balita ito, so konting tiis nalang  sa mga nagaabang ng ibang  color tulad ko. hehehe..... :D

Talagang tiis and wait... Hay ako di ko na naintay hehehehe.. 9.2 black agad. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 13, 2004 at 08:47 AM


Talagang tiis and wait... Hay ako di ko na naintay hehehehe.. 9.2 black agad. ;D

Cge Sir, pag may lumabas na ibang color at gusto mong dispatchahin yang black pipila na ako sa #1 slot dyan sa 9.2 mo  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 13, 2004 at 09:02 AM
Quote from: control
Cge Sir, pag may lumabas na ibang color at gusto mong dispatchahin yang black pipila na ako sa #1 slot dyan sa 9.2 mo

Hoy!!! ang aga ng pilahan dito ah ;D KOya sent u SMS (akin na lang yan pre) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 13, 2004 at 09:34 AM


Hoy!!! ang aga ng pilahan dito ah ;D KOya sent u SMS (akin na lang yan pre) ;D ;D

Nyahahaha... ang bilis mo men..   ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 13, 2004 at 10:10 AM
Joke lang pre ;D ;D 8.3 pa rin ako :P pag 5 years old na ito, tunog vintage na ::) ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Dec 13, 2004 at 10:49 AM
ang bibilis nyo oy! parang wala kayong pinaghahandaan ah. mwehehehe  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 13, 2004 at 11:30 AM
Joke lang pre ;D ;D 8.3 pa rin ako :P pag 5 years old na ito, tunog vintage na ::) ;D

Onga Sir, Na-imagine ko lang....pag tagal tagal na ng 8.3 parang ls3 na rin  :o ;D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 13, 2004 at 02:13 PM
KID_lat & oFFcoNTROL,

Hehehehe every weekend ko lang naririnig 9.2 ko kaya exciting everytime malapit na magweekends.. hehehehe parang may party sa bahay pagnagsound kami.. hehehehe ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 13, 2004 at 02:33 PM
KOya Hans,

lufet nga ng soundtrip mo dun.... masyadong enclose yung sala kaya tsalap mag karaoke at gulaman para kang nasa VIP room ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 13, 2004 at 02:59 PM
KOya Hans,

lufet nga ng soundtrip mo dun.... masyadong enclose yung sala kaya tsalap mag karaoke at gulaman para kang nasa VIP room ;D ;D

Uy! Ganda pala talaga sa inyo kOya.. tapos 9.2 pa...aprub!  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 13, 2004 at 03:23 PM
KOya Hans,

lufet nga ng soundtrip mo dun.... masyadong enclose yung sala kaya tsalap mag karaoke at gulaman para kang nasa VIP room ;D ;D


Uy! Ganda pala talaga sa inyo kOya.. tapos 9.2 pa...aprub! >:D


Thanks guys.. actually sarap talaga magGulaman pag nice music mo.. tanong mo si Senor Kimpao kung ok talaga.. ;) ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 13, 2004 at 03:30 PM




Thanks guys.. actually sarap talaga magGulaman pag nice music mo.. tanong mo si Senor Kimpao kung ok talaga.. ;) ;)

Sir sa picture pa lang at home na at home na yung 9.2  ;D ;D ;D Cgurado hindi yun mahahapo sa pag-kanta dun  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 13, 2004 at 03:34 PM


Sir sa picture pa lang at home na at home na yung 9.2  ;D ;D ;D Cgurado hindi yun mahahapo sa pag-kanta dun  >:D

Hehehehe salamat senor Control. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: garee on Dec 13, 2004 at 03:43 PM
since 9.2 is a bookshelves speaker...
does the "design" of a speaker stand really makes a difference.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 13, 2004 at 04:06 PM
since 9.2 is a bookshelves speaker...
does the "design" of a speaker stand really makes a difference.
.

OO naman try placing your speaker on a folding table or chair you'll notice medyo di solid yun sound (bass and balance ) pero place it on a good stand and lalabas yun bass tapos balance na yun highs and lows.. kaya some invest in customize stand para talaga design for there speakers.. :)

Stand are handy it come in diff height for you to choose from ( height should be depend on your listening position ear level) syempre dami pa design and weight. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: allvin_98 on Dec 17, 2004 at 03:41 PM
mga Sir(s),

ask ko lang.magkal-level na ba yung wharfe 9.2 sa AE EVO 1, B&W600, B2?

kung magka-level na sila eh cyempre dun na ako sa mura.hehehe

thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Dec 17, 2004 at 04:03 PM
mga Sir(s),

ask ko lang.magkal-level na ba yung wharfe 9.2 sa AE EVO 1, B&W600, B2?

kung magka-level na sila eh cyempre dun na ako sa mura.hehehe

thanks

if you check the web for prices, parang magkakamatch sila. the 9.1, evo1, b2 and dm303.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: allvin_98 on Dec 17, 2004 at 04:17 PM


if you check the web for prices, parang magkakamatch sila. the 9.1, evo1, b2 and dm303.


ah ok for the price. but in terms of performance?

thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: odyopayl on Dec 17, 2004 at 04:31 PM

.

OO naman try placing your speaker on a folding table or chair you'll notice medyo di solid yun sound (bass and balance ) pero place it on a good stand and lalabas yun bass tapos balance na yun highs and lows.. kaya some invest in customize stand para talaga design for there speakers.. :)

Stand are handy it come in diff height for you to choose from ( height should be depend on your listening position ear level) syempre dami pa design and weight. :)
Sir don't forget "Height" of speaker stand  affects  the low frequency & Soundstage of your system!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 17, 2004 at 04:46 PM


ah ok for the price. but in terms of performance?

thanks

Sir, Performance wise...it's best to audition and rate them yourself because different people have different taste in sonics  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 19, 2004 at 10:01 AM


Sir, Performance wise...it's best to audition and rate them yourself because different people have different taste in sonics  ;)

Correct ka Senor Control all mention models are good and each brand have a certain character sa sound that is unique kaya better audition..  :) :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: allvin_98 on Dec 19, 2004 at 10:39 AM


Correct ka Senor Control all mention models are good and each brand have a certain character sa sound that is unique kaya better audition..  :) :)

Ah ok. thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Jairus on Dec 20, 2004 at 03:08 PM
Has anybody here auditioned the SW150? How much is the selling price for these?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Dec 20, 2004 at 03:18 PM
Yung isang mama diyan na naka diamond 9.1 at center paramdam ka naman!  ;D Congrats pre, mukhang aakyat na sa bedroom yung HT ah!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 20, 2004 at 04:00 PM
Mas mabilis pa sa KIDlat ;D ;D galing ng 6.0 setup nya.... SW150 sub na lang ang kulang  >:D Congrats!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Dec 20, 2004 at 04:10 PM
Mas mabilis pa sa KIDlat ;D ;D galing ng 6.0 setup nya.... SW150 sub na lang ang kulang  >:D Congrats!

kaya nga tooooooooot.............. ang pangalan nya dahil ganun siya kabilis.  9.1 tapos 9 cs hmmmmm not bad for HT, ROCK THE HOUSE din!  :o ;D ;D


What-Hifi? 2004 Product of The Year Awardee  :o :o :D :D
http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 20, 2004 at 04:18 PM
Oo nga pala ano hehehe good decision yung ginawa nya konti lang ginastos  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: odyopayl on Dec 21, 2004 at 12:04 PM
mga Sir(s),

ask ko lang.magkal-level na ba yung wharfe 9.2 sa AE EVO 1, B&W600, B2?

kung magka-level na sila eh cyempre dun na ako sa mura.hehehe

thanks

Some says "Wharfedale Diamond Series are Poor Mans B&W". This might means they have the same category but not in "Level" & "Price". Better check it with your ears!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 21, 2004 at 07:21 PM


Some says "Wharfedale Diamond Series are Poor Mans B&W". This might means they have the same category but not in "Level" & "Price". Better check it with your ears!

Right exactly remember also that NOT all speaker that are categorize higher than another brand will sound better.. Audition with your other gears to hear the synergy kung maganda..

Like what i did got a high powered Surplus amp to match my 9.2 and presto.. Panalo!!!..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: james16 on Dec 21, 2004 at 09:56 PM
kuya, kelan ko ba pwede madinig yung 9.x series mo?????   ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: berniebau on Dec 22, 2004 at 05:11 AM


Right exactly remember also that NOT all speaker that are categorize higher than another brand will sound better.. Audition with your other gears to hear the synergy kung maganda..

Like what i did got a high powered Surplus amp to match my 9.2 and presto.. Panalo!!!..

sir,
ano yung high powered surplus amp mo? san ba nakakkakuha ng mga ganito? planning to upgrade my receiver eh. pero Diamond 8s pa gamit ko.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Dec 22, 2004 at 01:03 PM
Has anybody here auditioned the SW150? How much is the selling price for these?

sa spectra out of stock and next year pa next shipment dont know with other dealers but srp is 9k if i'm not mistaken.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Jairus on Dec 22, 2004 at 01:49 PM
thanks jetok for the reply :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 22, 2004 at 04:10 PM


sir,
ano yung high powered surplus amp mo? san ba nakakkakuha ng mga ganito? planning to upgrade my receiver eh. pero Diamond 8s pa gamit ko.

Surplus 2 channel integrated amp sa Pier ko nabili.

Ano gamit mo now bro?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 23, 2004 at 09:32 AM


Surplus 2 channel integrated amp sa Pier ko nabili.

Ano gamit mo now bro?

Master Hans....sa susunod na flight nyo sa market place pwede ba akong makasama? Para makabili ako ng SS amp na surplus?  :'(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iceman90a on Dec 23, 2004 at 09:47 AM


Master Hans....sa susunod na flight nyo sa market place pwede ba akong makasama? Para makabili ako ng SS amp na surplus? :'(

huwag na - idagdag mo na lang sa speaker or tube amp budget mo, sayang din yun pang NOS RCA na 7199 din yan >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sebman on Dec 23, 2004 at 09:51 AM


hiwag na - idagdag mo na lang sa speaker or tube amp budget mo, sayang din yun pang NOS RCA na 7199 din yan >:D

tama si master iceman... 7199... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mukhang st70 na talaga a..  ;)  :) then 9.2 na...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 23, 2004 at 09:57 AM


hiwag na - idagdag mo na lang sa speaker or tube amp budget mo, sayang din yun pang NOS RCA na 7199 din yan >:D

Nakow po! At nanghahawa na naman si Master Iceman...  ;D ;D ;D Saklolo...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: berniebau on Dec 23, 2004 at 10:26 AM


Surplus 2 channel integrated amp sa Pier ko nabili.

Ano gamit mo now bro?


Onkyo na sr500 w/ 8.4 fronts. ayos nman sa palagay ko, pero parang may ibibigay pa tong speakers na hindi kaya ilabas ng current amp ko.  :-\
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 23, 2004 at 11:00 AM
Bakit sir bernie? bitin ka pa ba sa tunog ng 8.4 mo, power hungry kasi yang wharfs.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: james16 on Dec 23, 2004 at 07:54 PM
balita ko avail din itong mga speakers sa image daw....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: berniebau on Dec 24, 2004 at 01:39 AM
Bakit sir bernie? bitin ka pa ba sa tunog ng 8.4 mo, power hungry kasi yang wharfs.

actually, sa kinalalagyang room ngyon ok (more than enough) tong 8.4. kaya lang when listening at lower volume parang hindi buo ang tunog, kelangan medyo lakasan (around 50) when listening in stereo. higher kapag DD.  pero siguro kapag may sub na, mababawasan na ng load yung fronts mas maganda na lalabas ang tunog diba? kapag ok wla ng upgrade sa amp... sayang eh... mahirap na ang buhay ngayon ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: allvin_98 on Dec 24, 2004 at 07:32 PM


actually, sa kinalalagyang room ngyon ok (more than enough) tong 8.4. kaya lang when listening at lower volume parang hindi buo ang tunog, kelangan medyo lakasan (around 50) when listening in stereo. higher kapag DD.  pero siguro kapag may sub na, mababawasan na ng load yung fronts mas maganda na lalabas ang tunog diba? kapag ok wla ng upgrade sa amp... sayang eh... mahirap na ang buhay ngayon ;)

Sir bitin tlaga ang marantz.before i owned marantz SR4400 matched with wharfe 8.4. one month pa lang sa akin yung marantz eh binenta ko na.

Hirap ang marantz i-drive ang wharfe speakers.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: berniebau on Dec 25, 2004 at 11:11 PM


Sir bitin tlaga ang marantz.before i owned marantz SR4400 matched with wharfe 8.4. one month pa lang sa akin yung marantz eh binenta ko na.

Hirap ang marantz i-drive ang wharfe speakers.

sir alvin,
just to clarify, TX-SR500 (Onkyo) ang aking receiver dehins Marantz.  Anyway i just checked the specs of Marantz SR4400, it's rated at 80W/Ch while the SR500 is only 65W/ch (FTC), although not very specific yung rating ng Marantz kung pano nakuha yung 80W.  can you describe your experience with your marantz-wharf combo?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: james16 on Dec 26, 2004 at 12:20 AM
as far as i could remember, some brands were actually claiming that there unit have this particular rating but when actual tests were made, some of them did not even meet there claimed power rating. I just could not remember the website but one of our fellow pinoydvd member post this link a long time ago
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: allvin_98 on Dec 26, 2004 at 03:51 AM


sir alvin,
just to clarify, TX-SR500 (Onkyo) ang aking receiver dehins Marantz.  Anyway i just checked the specs of Marantz SR4400, it's rated at 80W/Ch while the SR500 is only 65W/ch (FTC), although not very specific yung rating ng Marantz kung pano nakuha yung 80W.  can you describe your experience with your marantz-wharf combo?

Hehehe.sorry sir... mali ang baso ko

maganda naman ang marantz. small size lang ang room ko based in the  manual. lagi nga ako +6- +8 ang volume ko kapag audio and movie. pero kahit na malakas ng volume hindi pa rin yung tunay na tunog ng wharfe and mahina mag-basss .mabilis pa siya mag-init. nakakapaso yung init kaya bumili ako ng fan.

after i sold my one month old amp. i bought sakura 387 amp coz my friend have sakura-wharfe 8.4 combo.mas maganda pa nga yung sakura eh kayang i-drive yun wharfe and lumabas na yun bass.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 26, 2004 at 11:00 AM
berniebau,

How old are your 8.4? baka break in pa konti. :) have experience Onkyo + Wharf combo 8.2 naman front ko before and true medyo malabo in lower volume Onkyo is warm already tapos warm sounding din Wharf kaya parang nawawala yun detail and clarity.

Meron ba preouts Onkyo mo? kung meron add ka power amp to drive your fronts. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: berniebau on Dec 26, 2004 at 02:44 PM
sir hans,

1 year pa lang sya sa Feb 14 (eto ang naging date namin ng aking wife, hehehe)  palagay ko naman broken in na to. kasi gamit na gamit sya the first few months sya. tama ka nga yata sir sa description mo. warm. kasi when listening to "voices" na music/classical ayos na ayos eh. pero when it comes to alternative, parang kulang, pero nasolve yun ng speaker placement. medyo nilapit ko fronts sakin, galing! nag improved.  pero may combo ang ninong ko using an old Onkyo receiver + Infinity speakers (medyo OT) ganda tumunog.  Old amp na sya eh, kasi may LED pa sa volume knob, hindi infinite. tanda ko nasa 9 o' clock pa lang ganda na tumunog. ayos na ayos na kumanta ang mga Divas!

walang preouts ang amp ko eh. pero don't get me wrong I LIKE may combo now, baka lang hindi ko lang nauutilize ang capabilities  ng wharfes ko. O0



to Alvin
sobra pala mag-init amp mo. palagay ko dun napupunta ang kuryente na dapat sa speakers mo napupunta, nagiging heat. O0


to james
sayang, saan kaya ang site na sinsabi mo? familiar amps/receivers ba sa atin ang mga nabanggit doon?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: saltuhin on Dec 26, 2004 at 09:15 PM
what amplifier can anybody suggest as replacement for yamaha rxv 440? i have been using it for quite a while and it seems hindi na masyadong satisfactory in terms of audio. BTW i'm using 9.5s as fronts. medyo bitin sa power kasi i've tried pairing the 9.5s with an older Sony amp and it sounded better in terms of strictly audio listening. will a higher rated yamaha avr or another brand such as HK deliver the desired result?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 26, 2004 at 10:06 PM
what amplifier can anybody suggest as replacement for yamaha rxv 440? i have been using it for quite a while and it seems hindi na masyadong satisfactory in terms of audio. BTW i'm using 9.5s as fronts. medyo bitin sa power kasi i've tried pairing the 9.5s with an older Sony amp and it sounded better in terms of strictly audio listening. will a higher rated yamaha avr or another brand such as HK deliver the desired result?

If your budget permits, you could try Harman/Kardon  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Dec 28, 2004 at 10:35 AM
hello to all.

i just got my diamond 9.1 from spectra. many thanks to jim for the wonderful service. and to all members here for all the wonderful and helpful posts.

sobrang happy ng christmas na to hehehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 28, 2004 at 10:42 AM
Congrats on your new toy!!!  ;D Meron pang New Year weekend for another new toy.  he he  ;D 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Dec 28, 2004 at 10:46 AM
Congrats on your new toy!!!  ;D Meron pang New Year weekend for another new toy.  he he  ;D 

that would be nice pro papatayin na ko ni misis :) she got me a nad c320bee for christmas pala :) pro baka pede ko ilusot yung lovan pagkatanggal nung christmas tree hehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 28, 2004 at 11:44 AM
Congrats!  :o

Alisin nyo na agad yung Xmas tree para sa Lovan stand  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 29, 2004 at 08:10 AM
what amplifier can anybody suggest as replacement for yamaha rxv 440? i have been using it for quite a while and it seems hindi na masyadong satisfactory in terms of audio. BTW i'm using 9.5s as fronts. medyo bitin sa power kasi i've tried pairing the 9.5s with an older Sony amp and it sounded better in terms of strictly audio listening. will a higher rated yamaha avr or another brand such as HK deliver the desired result?

Correct si Control try Harman Kardon AVR..


hello to all.

i just got my diamond 9.1 from spectra. many thanks to jim for the wonderful service. and to all members here for all the wonderful and helpful posts.

sobrang happy ng christmas na to hehehe.

Congrats sa NAD and Wharf mo!!  :) :)

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 29, 2004 at 08:14 AM
sir hans,

1 year pa lang sya sa Feb 14 (eto ang naging date namin ng aking wife, hehehe)  palagay ko naman broken in na to. kasi gamit na gamit sya the first few months sya. tama ka nga yata sir sa description mo. warm. kasi when listening to "voices" na music/classical ayos na ayos eh. pero when it comes to alternative, parang kulang, pero nasolve yun ng speaker placement. medyo nilapit ko fronts sakin, galing! nag improved.  pero may combo ang ninong ko using an old Onkyo receiver + Infinity speakers (medyo OT) ganda tumunog.  Old amp na sya eh, kasi may LED pa sa volume knob, hindi infinite. tanda ko nasa 9 o' clock pa lang ganda na tumunog. ayos na ayos na kumanta ang mga Divas!

walang preouts ang amp ko eh. pero don't get me wrong I LIKE may combo now, baka lang hindi ko lang nauutilize ang capabilities  ng wharfes ko. O0


Bro hehehehe Kulang pa break in bigyan mo pa ng half year pa.. hehehehe kidding aside konti pa and good at you tried to move your speaker totoo yan a speaker placement kahit 1" lang galawin mo meron iiba sa sound.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Dec 29, 2004 at 08:28 AM


Congrats sa NAD and Wharf mo!!  :) :)



thank you sir hans :)

tanong ko na rin, medyo ot, the nad gets warm kahit na 7-8 oclock yung volume. is this normal?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 29, 2004 at 08:33 AM


thank you sir hans :)

tanong ko na rin, medyo ot, the nad gets warm kahit na 7-8 oclock yung volume. is this normal?


NOrmal yan heat pero mabilis ba mag init?? 30 mins, 1 hour mainit na basta you can still touch it walang problem meron ba vent/hole sa top cover.. pero kung hot talaga get a blower ( meron sa SM ) para sigurado.. I also used blower lalo na yun long listening.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Dec 29, 2004 at 08:37 AM

NOrmal yan heat pero mabilis ba mag init?? 30 mins, 1 hour mainit na basta you can still touch it walang problem meron ba vent/hole sa top cover.. pero kung hot talaga get a blower ( meron sa SM ) para sigurado.. I also used blower lalo na yun long listening.


nde naman mainit na mainit. just warm. i guess it's ok. thanks ulit sir hans. bagitong bagito pa kasi ako kaya praning hehehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 29, 2004 at 08:46 AM


nde naman mainit na mainit. just warm. i guess it's ok. thanks ulit sir hans. bagitong bagito pa kasi ako kaya praning hehehe.

Break in stage pa yan.. don't worry enjoy the music lang..  :) :)

Happy New Year!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: berniebau on Dec 30, 2004 at 12:03 AM


Bro hehehehe Kulang pa break in bigyan mo pa ng half year pa.. hehehehe kidding aside konti pa and good at you tried to move your speaker totoo yan a speaker placement kahit 1" lang galawin mo meron iiba sa sound.. ;D ;D

sana nga sir, every ounce of improvement certainly wouldn't hurt.  :)  pero nabasa ko nga somewhere that kevlar drivers takes hundreds of hours to really consider it as fully broken in.  O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: allvin_98 on Dec 30, 2004 at 12:15 PM


nde naman mainit na mainit. just warm. i guess it's ok. thanks ulit sir hans. bagitong bagito pa kasi ako kaya praning hehehe.

normal lang ang mainit.kabahan ka kapag hindi na siya uminit.hehehe.

Congrats sa bagong baby mo.hehehe.enjoy!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 04, 2005 at 07:26 AM
sana nga sir, every ounce of improvement certainly wouldn't hurt.  :)  pero nabasa ko nga somewhere that kevlar drivers takes hundreds of hours to really consider it as fully broken in.  O0

YUp kevlar woofer are long to break in like my Evo30 almost 9 months old na i taught broken in na but after hearing a 2 to 3 years old speaker naku parang di pa open yun sound ng speaker ko  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: j_albert22 on Jan 04, 2005 at 07:54 AM
YUp kevlar woofer are long to break in like my Evo30 almost 9 months old na i taught broken in na but after hearing a 2 to 3 years old speaker naku parang di pa open yun sound ng speaker ko  ;D ;D

pano mabebreak in di mo naman ginagamit dahil sa 9.2 hehehehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sebman on Jan 04, 2005 at 07:57 AM
pano mabebreak in di mo naman ginagamit dahil sa 9.2 hehehehehe

oo nga... yan na ata bago mong baby ngayun e...  ;D ot.. preng j_albert22.. nabuhay ka a.. musta na? me tube amp na ba?  ;)  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 04, 2005 at 08:00 AM
pano mabebreak in di mo naman ginagamit dahil sa 9.2 hehehehehe

Nasa Qc yun 9.2 sir yun Evo nasa Pasay hehehehe. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: j_albert22 on Jan 04, 2005 at 08:02 AM
oo nga... yan na ata bago mong baby ngayun e...  ;D ot.. preng j_albert22.. nabuhay ka a.. musta na? me tube amp na ba?  ;)  :D
hunting pa muna nang xformer try ko kay sir andrew ...............kuyang help mo ko dito
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: j_albert22 on Jan 04, 2005 at 08:03 AM
Nasa Qc yun 9.2 sir yun Evo nasa Pasay hehehehe. ;D ;D

ayan umamin na hehehehe >:D >:D dalawa ang inuuwian hehehehe >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 04, 2005 at 08:03 AM
hunting pa muna nang xformer try ko kay sir andrew ...............kuyang help mo ko dito

Tranny ba? bring your spec para mabilis ang order mo.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: j_albert22 on Jan 04, 2005 at 08:06 AM
Tranny ba? bring your spec para mabilis ang order mo.. ;D
for 20 watts push pull output impedance 16,8,and 4 ohms
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 04, 2005 at 08:15 AM
for 20 watts push pull output impedance 16,8,and 4 ohms

Power o Output??
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: j_albert22 on Jan 04, 2005 at 08:21 AM
Power o Output??
output tranny po c kuyang nagpapatawa o ;) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jacorb88 on Jan 04, 2005 at 08:40 AM
guys, just want to share that i recently acquired my hk130 paired with 9.4 (fronts, cs). still boxed though. i have yet to refurbish my audio/video rack. para bago tignan with my new babies.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sebman on Jan 04, 2005 at 08:43 AM
guys, just want to share that i recently acquired my hk130 paired with 9.4 (fronts, cs). still boxed though. i have yet to refurbish my audio/video rack. para bago tignan with my new babies.

congrats sir.... you got the right amp for your speakrs...  ;)  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jan 04, 2005 at 08:44 AM
guys, just want to share that i recently acquired my hk130 paired with 9.4 (fronts, cs). still boxed though. i have yet to refurbish my audio/video rack. para bago tignan with my new babies.

congrats sa new gears mo :) happy listening :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: j_albert22 on Jan 04, 2005 at 12:52 PM
guys, just want to share that i recently acquired my hk130 paired with 9.4 (fronts, cs). still boxed though. i have yet to refurbish my audio/video rack. para bago tignan with my new babies.

happy listening O0 O0 O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 04, 2005 at 02:12 PM
guys, just want to share that i recently acquired my hk130 paired with 9.4 (fronts, cs). still boxed though. i have yet to refurbish my audio/video rack. para bago tignan with my new babies.

Very good combo you have there Congrats!!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: james16 on Jan 05, 2005 at 12:28 AM
guys, just want to share that i recently acquired my hk130 paired with 9.4 (fronts, cs). still boxed though. i have yet to refurbish my audio/video rack. para bago tignan with my new babies.

congrats..... congrats.....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: allvin_98 on Jan 05, 2005 at 02:06 PM
guys, just want to share that i recently acquired my hk130 paired with 9.4 (fronts, cs). still boxed though. i have yet to refurbish my audio/video rack. para bago tignan with my new babies.

Naks paldo talaga si sir! hehehe.congrats! ang ganda sa movie and music yan....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Jan 06, 2005 at 06:12 AM
guys, just want to share that i recently acquired my hk130 paired with 9.4 (fronts, cs). still boxed though. i have yet to refurbish my audio/video rack. para bago tignan with my new babies.

congrats sir!
guys may balita na ba sa cherry or wood color ng diamond 9 series?
sana meron na.... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jan 06, 2005 at 07:33 AM
congrats sir!
guys may balita na ba sa cherry or wood color ng diamond 9 series?
sana meron na.... ;D

i was aiming for these finishes too. but since only the black ones are available, kinuha ko na. no regrets. they looked expensive and sophisticated when i got em home :) especially w/ the grills on.

madilim kc s spectra kaya nde labas ganda ng black.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Jan 07, 2005 at 08:55 AM
Up to today, order basis pa rin ang ibang color ng wharfe 9 series sa spectra.... 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Jan 07, 2005 at 12:34 PM
hay............ buti nalang i have gotten over this babies na, sa tagal ng pag hinihintay ng new colors nakahanap nako ng bagong luma. hehehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimosabe on Jan 07, 2005 at 02:41 PM
hay............ buti nalang i have gotten over this babies na, sa tagal ng pag hinihintay ng new colors nakahanap nako ng bagong luma. hehehe.

Congrats sa bagong luma mong speaker sir wanderlust. Ano ba yun?  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Jan 07, 2005 at 02:43 PM
Sapatos pre  ;D ;D Otto speaker (electrostatic) ribbon tweeter, heard it na and  :o sa sound.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Jan 07, 2005 at 03:02 PM
delikado yan speakers na yan ah! Lalo na pag naka-paa ka lang, biro mo eletro na static pa! :o Deathrow ka agad niyan!  :o  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 07, 2005 at 03:30 PM
delikado yan speakers na yan ah! Lalo na pag naka-paa ka lang, biro mo eletro na static pa! :o Deathrow ka agad niyan!  :o  ;D ;D

DOM Kimpao,

Pero wag mo sa sound hmmmm Electrifying!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Jan 07, 2005 at 03:44 PM
KOya,

Post ka na naman ng review sa surplus speaker thread  :o
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 07, 2005 at 04:13 PM
punk_kid,

Would just let the owner provide the review.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Jan 07, 2005 at 05:02 PM
Ahahaha..... ganda ng review mo bro  ;D

Guys,

Musta na mga diamond 9 nyo?  8)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 11, 2005 at 02:45 PM
Ahahaha..... ganda ng review mo bro  ;D

Guys,

Musta na mga diamond 9 nyo?  8)

KID_lat

Mine doing fine sayang lang was not able to use it last New year kasi gamit ko speaker ni Wanderlust..  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Jan 11, 2005 at 03:05 PM
no reviews as yet............. sa otto, hirap isuot pa e.  ;) patakbuhin ko na nga lang  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hustla on Jan 12, 2005 at 06:37 AM
any reviews on the 9.5?  which do you prefer 9.4 or 9.5?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hustla on Jan 12, 2005 at 06:37 AM
any reviews on the 9.5?  which do you prefer 9.4 or 9.5?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 12, 2005 at 02:11 PM
hustla,

My uncle have a 9.4 for me its a balance performer.. have auditioned 9.5 but fine it rolled off ( high ) or maybe needs break in pa since display unit pa lang yun..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Jan 12, 2005 at 02:55 PM
master hans.

di ba boomy yung 9.4 ng uncle mo sir? like the one's we heard last year.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 12, 2005 at 03:40 PM
master hans.

di ba boomy yung 9.4 ng uncle mo sir? like the one's we heard last year.

Di naman senor KID it just right for his room i even turn the tone control to 3oclock to gain some more bass hehehehe.. its much be the spikes. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Jan 12, 2005 at 03:44 PM
when we auditioned the 9.4 during our weekend session medyo boomy sya kaya some members were diasppointed... pero ok na pala so we can recommend it now  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 12, 2005 at 03:52 PM
when we auditioned the 9.4 during our weekend session medyo boomy sya kaya some members were diasppointed... pero ok na pala so we can recommend it now  ;D

Yes bro i will not recomend it and even buy it kung sablay hehehhee.. sure yun bro.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Jan 12, 2005 at 03:57 PM
Guys.

you heard the master! go get 'em  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hustla on Jan 13, 2005 at 11:08 PM
sir hans,

thanks for the advice! Got the 9.5 from Audio Excellance today though, after hours of head to head with the 9.4, i decided to go 9.5.  What made me decide?  Mids are clearer, there are instances kasi with the 9.4 na natatabunan ng bass ung mids. Highs are the same, and bass are definetly better, medyo nabitin kasi ako sa 9.4.  Tried it both with subs and w/o subs, i find the 9.5 more complete in terms of the bass.  Di na ko gagamit ng subs for audio.  And the biggest factor that made me decide.... 9.5 looks better.  Tingin ko kasi sa 9.4 mahabang 9.2.  Port of 9.5 is placed at the back w/c for me is better, and higher ang sensitivity at 88db.  And fyi, its a match with my Sherwood AVR.  Tried it with HK130, Sherwood RD7108, Denon 1804. 

Just my subjective findings.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Jan 14, 2005 at 05:55 AM
hustla,
congrats bro. ;) happy listening...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 14, 2005 at 12:11 PM
sir hans,

thanks for the advice! Got the 9.5 from Audio Excellance today though, after hours of head to head with the 9.4, i decided to go 9.5.  What made me decide?  Mids are clearer, there are instances kasi with the 9.4 na natatabunan ng bass ung mids. Highs are the same, and bass are definetly better, medyo nabitin kasi ako sa 9.4.  Tried it both with subs and w/o subs, i find the 9.5 more complete in terms of the bass.  Di na ko gagamit ng subs for audio.  And the biggest factor that made me decide.... 9.5 looks better.  Tingin ko kasi sa 9.4 mahabang 9.2.  Port of 9.5 is placed at the back w/c for me is better, and higher ang sensitivity at 88db.  And fyi, its a match with my Sherwood AVR.  Tried it with HK130, Sherwood RD7108, Denon 1804. 

Just my subjective findings.

Congrats bro!! notice that too 9.5 have better bass tha 9.4 and looks tama ka mas pogi yun dual woofer hehehe

Enjoy happy listening!! 9.2 hay weekend lang nagagamit. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Jan 14, 2005 at 02:27 PM
oy, mas maganda pala ha ang 9.5........... hmmmmm................  ;D ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 14, 2005 at 07:01 PM
oy, mas maganda pala ha ang 9.5........... hmmmmm................  ;D ;)

Senor Wanderlust,

What are you waiting for grap one unit na!!! ;) ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Jan 17, 2005 at 05:53 AM
Hindi na ako nakapaghintay ng ibang colour, bumili na ako ng black 9.1 and 9cs.  ;)
sarap pakiramdam....... :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Jan 17, 2005 at 09:43 AM
Hahahaha!!! senor vhongbiker... CONGRATS! di ka rin nakatiis  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Jan 17, 2005 at 10:42 AM
rosewood and beech color of the 9 series is now available
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimosabe on Jan 17, 2005 at 10:54 AM
Hindi na ako nakapaghintay ng ibang colour, bumili na ako ng black 9.1 and 9cs.  ;)
sarap pakiramdam....... :D

Sir vhongbiker sayang nagkaroon na ng ibang color, pero ok lang siguro mahalaga naman yung tunog di ba  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: backdraft on Jan 17, 2005 at 11:07 AM
rosewood and beech color of the 9 series is now available

o mga sir, eto na mga hinihintay nyo!!! ipa-ampon nyo na 8.3 nyo sakin  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Jan 17, 2005 at 12:08 PM
rosewood and beech color of the 9 series is now available

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh................ :-[ :-X :-\.
huhuhuhu... kung kailan nakabili na ako ng black. ;D
pero ok lang, pogi naman black eh, hehehe....(palusot)
FS: black colour 9.1 and 9cs, both for only 7k. hehehehe....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Jan 17, 2005 at 12:59 PM
how many are waiting for the 9.6 and the 9CM?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hustla on Jan 17, 2005 at 08:29 PM
Ako 9CM.  How much?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 18, 2005 at 07:35 AM
rosewood and beech color of the 9 series is now available

Dumating na rin pala.. tagal tagal  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: backdraft on Jan 18, 2005 at 07:47 AM
Dumating na rin pala.. tagal tagal  :)

Bili bili na sir  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Jan 18, 2005 at 11:16 AM
Ako 9CM.  How much?
no idea yet
ill just post it if there's a price already and stock
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Jan 18, 2005 at 12:09 PM
oy my other colors na.............. pano na yan!  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Jan 18, 2005 at 04:31 PM
the price for the 9.6 is 17500
9CM is 6300
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sebman on Jan 18, 2005 at 04:34 PM
pa-post din ng discounted cash price for the sw 150.. thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: moks on Jan 18, 2005 at 04:36 PM
can the yamaha rx-v440 drive the wharfdale diamond 9 series? i will basically use it for home theater purposes. what i know is that wharfdale speakers are kinda hard to drive considering it's sensitivity. thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 18, 2005 at 08:14 PM
can the yamaha rx-v440 drive the wharfdale diamond 9 series? i will basically use it for home theater purposes. what i know is that wharfdale speakers are kinda hard to drive considering it's sensitivity. thanks.

Bro give Spectra a visit meron sila both gears para ma test mo agad. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 18, 2005 at 08:15 PM
Bili bili na sir  >:D

Meron na bro.. black din 9.2..  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Jan 19, 2005 at 03:44 PM
Anyone auditioned the 9.6 already?  Kindly post your comments here.  :)

I've been considering these but still don't have time to visit the dealer.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Jan 19, 2005 at 04:37 PM
pa-post din ng discounted cash price for the sw 150.. thanks
still 9000
limited stocks remaining
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: saltuhin on Jan 19, 2005 at 07:34 PM
can the yamaha rx-v440 drive the wharfdale diamond 9 series? i will basically use it for home theater purposes. what i know is that wharfdale speakers are kinda hard to drive considering it's sensitivity. thanks.
This is exactly what I am using at the moment. You will be satisfied with HT but in terms of audio medyo mabibitin ka sa bass response saka medyo kulang sa clarity as compared to other amps. BTW I am using 9.5 sa fronts 9cs center saka 9.1 surrounds. Kung gamit ka subs for audio compensated ka na sa lacking na bass response although I would not recommend going in that direction.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 21, 2005 at 08:24 AM
This is exactly what I am using at the moment. You will be satisfied with HT but in terms of audio medyo mabibitin ka sa bass response saka medyo kulang sa clarity as compared to other amps. BTW I am using 9.5 sa fronts 9cs center saka 9.1 surrounds. Kung gamit ka subs for audio compensated ka na sa lacking na bass response although I would not recommend going in that direction.

Kulang lang sa break in yan bro..  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: saltuhin on Jan 21, 2005 at 07:16 PM
Parang characteristic talaga siya ng yamaha. Kasi before I was using a Sony prologic amp paired with Bose 301 sa fronts then nakapagupgrade ako with the yamaha 440. Bass response was diminished. Then with the 9.5 mas maganda na. Mas kumpleto na tunog saka malawak soundstage, mas nadedetermine mo yung tunog from where it is coming saka parang may depth.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 21, 2005 at 10:01 PM
Parang characteristic talaga siya ng yamaha. Kasi before I was using a Sony prologic amp paired with Bose 301 sa fronts then nakapagupgrade ako with the yamaha 440. Bass response was diminished. Then with the 9.5 mas maganda na. Mas kumpleto na tunog saka malawak soundstage, mas nadedetermine mo yung tunog from where it is coming saka parang may depth.

Uy ayos yan.. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Jan 21, 2005 at 10:50 PM
Uy ayos yan.. :)

hans,

musta na 9.2 mo?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Jan 23, 2005 at 02:01 AM
Just posted my impressions of the Diamond 9.5 over at Audio Asylum.  Check out the link and tell me if you share the same opinion about this fabulous speaker.

http://www.audioasylum.com/cgi/m.pl?forum=speakers&n=183991&review=1

Hey guys, I'm still hoping that someone would post a review of the 9.6.  I have this feeling that the 9.5 is merely the tip of the iceberg.  The dome midrange and bigger woofers seem promising.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Jan 24, 2005 at 11:17 AM
Just posted my impressions of the Diamond 9.5 over at Audio Asylum.  Check out the link and tell me if you share the same opinion about this fabulous speaker.

http://www.audioasylum.com/cgi/m.pl?forum=speakers&n=183991&review=1

Hey guys, I'm still hoping that someone would post a review of the 9.6.  I have this feeling that the 9.5 is merely the tip of the iceberg.  The dome midrange and bigger woofers seem promising.

the 9.6 is already available, rosewood beech black, here but the price is a bit high
its around 17500
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 25, 2005 at 10:34 AM
hans,

musta na 9.2 mo?

Jetok,

Senor Oks naman break in stage notice all around ito used it sa karaoke, movie & audio match sa surplus amp ko.. :) ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 25, 2005 at 10:36 AM
the 9.6 is already available, rosewood beech black, here but the price is a bit high
its around 17500

I was at Spectra yesterday kita ko yun 9.5 na rosewood hmmm tapos yun beech na 9.1.

Hay!!! bakit ngayon ka lang dumating.. :'( :'(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jan 25, 2005 at 10:50 AM
I was at Spectra yesterday kita ko yun 9.5 na rosewood hmmm tapos yun beech na 9.1.

Hay!!! bakit ngayon ka lang dumating.. :'( :'(

save the best for last daw hehehe

ok lang yan sir hans. maganda naman yung black 9.2 mo e :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Jan 25, 2005 at 12:34 PM
I was at Spectra yesterday kita ko yun 9.5 na rosewood hmmm tapos yun beech na 9.1.

Hay!!! bakit ngayon ka lang dumating.. :'( :'(

sir hans talagang ganyan. ;D pareho lang tayo, nakakuha din ako ng black, kaya nga hindi muna ako nagpupunta sa mga audio video store eh. hehehe.... MAAASAR AT MAIINIS LANG AKO SA SARILI KO. >:(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 25, 2005 at 08:28 PM
sir hans talagang ganyan. ;D pareho lang tayo, nakakuha din ako ng black, kaya nga hindi muna ako nagpupunta sa mga audio video store eh. hehehe.... MAAASAR AT MAIINIS LANG AKO SA SARILI KO. >:(

hehehehehe actually i love black color.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Jairus on Jan 26, 2005 at 09:48 AM
Arnel Enero,

Bro...that's a well written review on the 9.5.  Have you heard the SW150? Any reviews (can't seem to find one in the net)?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: fierari on Jan 26, 2005 at 08:22 PM
makano 9.5?  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jan 27, 2005 at 09:07 AM
makano 9.5?  ;D

~12500. go get 'em :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Jan 28, 2005 at 06:07 PM
Is the Diamond 9CM already available locally?  How much?

I noticed that the Diamond 9CS is not much different in overall sound than the Diamond 8 Centre.  The D8 Centre and the 9CS are already GREAT SOUNDING centers, but I am wondering whether the different, larger configuration of the 9CM, with its dedicated dome midrange, would mean yet another increase in sound quality over the smaller models... or just in dynamic capability.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Jan 29, 2005 at 10:58 PM
Just had the chance to compare the Diamond 9.5 vs. the Pacific Evo 40 for a short time.  Call me weird but on first impression, I couldn't tell any significant difference between the two!  I am sure that my ears CAN detect differences in sound even on short auditions... but really there seems to be a very thin line that sets these 2 speakers apart from each other, sonically.

Has Wharfedale achieved that much technical advancement that they were able to trickle down the Evo 40 technology into the Diamond 9.5 at less than half the price?  I think they have, and now I'm pretty sure that an even better Pacific lineup is in the works at this very moment, to cope with the excellent value for money that the Diamond 9 series brings.  Right now, I personally don't see any reason to prefer the Pacific Evo to the Diamond 9.

Ok... I'll be honest... mas nagustuhan ko yung midrange ng Diamond 9 kaysa ng Pacific Evo, but not significantly.  Mas may "presence" overall, but again by a narrow margin.  In all fairness, medyo mas malinis ang highs ng Pacific Evo if crank up the volume.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Red October on Jan 31, 2005 at 09:39 AM
Sir Spectra,

Do you have available roosewood color for diamond 9.2?

Cheers.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Jan 31, 2005 at 12:17 PM
Is the Diamond 9CM already available locally?  How much?

I noticed that the Diamond 9CS is not much different in overall sound than the Diamond 8 Centre.  The D8 Centre and the 9CS are already GREAT SOUNDING centers, but I am wondering whether the different, larger configuration of the 9CM, with its dedicated dome midrange, would mean yet another increase in sound quality over the smaller models... or just in dynamic capability.

its already available the price is 6300 cash
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Jan 31, 2005 at 12:19 PM
Sir Spectra,

Do you have available roosewood color for diamond 9.2?

Cheers.
its still available
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Red October on Jan 31, 2005 at 01:47 PM
Sir Spectra,

Thanks very much.  I might be there by 2nd week of Feb since I am here at Pamp.
My assignment lang po me for opis work.

I got an opismate dyan sa manila and I have convinced him to set-up a home theater and
highly recommended ko ung store nyo.

His budget is only 30K and he is not much inclined sa mga branded na sounds equipment but
I have recommended the wharfedale set-up kahit 8 series/Dynaquest(5.1) lang po. Bahala na po kayo sa
amp.

Anyway sama ko na lang sya pag punta namin po dyan.

More power.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Feb 01, 2005 at 11:25 AM
Sir Spectra,

Thanks very much.  I might be there by 2nd week of Feb since I am here at Pamp.
My assignment lang po me for opis work.

I got an opismate dyan sa manila and I have convinced him to set-up a home theater and
highly recommended ko ung store nyo.

His budget is only 30K and he is not much inclined sa mga branded na sounds equipment but
I have recommended the wharfedale set-up kahit 8 series/Dynaquest(5.1) lang po. Bahala na po kayo sa
amp.

Anyway sama ko na lang sya pag punta namin po dyan.

More power.


tnx a lot
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: agmjr on Feb 01, 2005 at 12:08 PM
mga sirs, patulong naman po. i've been scouting for wharfedales speakers but can't really decide what combination i would get.  i have a onkyo 501 receiver, use the system mainly for movies.  ano pong model ang bagay sa receiver ko? budget is around 25K. i am looking at a complete speaker system. any suggestions po? store and ballpark prices if available din po.  ty po.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: juneaki on Feb 01, 2005 at 01:27 PM
mga sirs, patulong naman po. i've been scouting for wharfedales speakers but can't really decide what combination i would get.  i have a onkyo 501 receiver, use the system mainly for movies.  ano pong model ang bagay sa receiver ko? budget is around 25K. i am looking at a complete speaker system. any suggestions po? store and ballpark prices if available din po.  ty po.


Onkyo 501 is a 6.1 AVR right? for Php 25k, i recommend a sub/sat setup using three pairs of Diamond 9.1 for fronts, center, surrounds and rear center and for subwoofer, Diamond 9 SW150. I believe kasya na ang budget mo para dito.


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sebman on Feb 01, 2005 at 02:08 PM
mga sirs, patulong naman po. i've been scouting for wharfedales speakers but can't really decide what combination i would get.  i have a onkyo 501 receiver, use the system mainly for movies.  ano pong model ang bagay sa receiver ko? budget is around 25K. i am looking at a complete speaker system. any suggestions po? store and ballpark prices if available din po.  ty po.


audition mo muna sir yung combo ng onkyo and wharfs.. medyo power hungry yang wharfedale e.. baka mabitin sa onkyo... mostly mordaunt short ang
ka-match ng onkyo or mission... audition mo din and let your ears decide sir... happy auditioning...  ;)  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Feb 01, 2005 at 09:22 PM
Just had the chance to compare the Diamond 9.5 vs. the Pacific Evo 40 for a short time.  Call me weird but on first impression, I couldn't tell any significant difference between the two!  I am sure that my ears CAN detect differences in sound even on short auditions... but really there seems to be a very thin line that sets these 2 speakers apart from each other, sonically.

Has Wharfedale achieved that much technical advancement that they were able to trickle down the Evo 40 technology into the Diamond 9.5 at less than half the price?  I think they have, and now I'm pretty sure that an even better Pacific lineup is in the works at this very moment, to cope with the excellent value for money that the Diamond 9 series brings.  Right now, I personally don't see any reason to prefer the Pacific Evo to the Diamond 9.

Ok... I'll be honest... mas nagustuhan ko yung midrange ng Diamond 9 kaysa ng Pacific Evo, but not significantly.  Mas may "presence" overall, but again by a narrow margin.  In all fairness, medyo mas malinis ang highs ng Pacific Evo if crank up the volume.

Nice review.. and must agree sweeter yun mids ng Diamond 9 compare sa Evo series that is more transparent... 9.2 reminded me of AE evo 1 mids na sweet din and highs are extended ( feeling ko lang ) than the Evo series considering both sport a soft dome tweeter ( baka sa crossover hmmm )..  :D :D :D

btw owned 9.2 & Evo30. ;D ;D



 

 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 04, 2005 at 07:03 PM
its already available the price is 6300 cash

Yup, I'm the one who recently bought your Beech 9CM.  It's a great center speaker!  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: renrico on Feb 04, 2005 at 08:04 PM
Hi Sirs,

I have been following this thread and have read some favorable remarks on the 9.2. I’m new in this hobby and I would like to ask for your opinion po.

I’m presently using a NAD-C320BEE with an 8.4, set-up at our living room approximately 5 x 7 meters in size, high ceiling (about 18ft). Frankly, I’m happy with the result although my wife and I think that bookshelf speakers would look better in our living room (with solid stands to match it with).

Would it be ok to replace my 8.4 with 9.2? Will it sound close to our existing set-up?

Thanks in advance po and appreciate your inputs.
 

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Feb 04, 2005 at 08:27 PM
Hi Sirs,

I have been following this thread and have read some favorable remarks on the 9.2. I’m new in this hobby and I would like to ask for your opinion po.

I’m presently using a NAD-C320BEE with an 8.4, set-up at our living room approximately 5 x 7 meters in size, high ceiling (about 18ft). Frankly, I’m happy with the result although my wife and I think that bookshelf speakers would look better in our living room (with solid stands to match it with).

Would it be ok to replace my 8.4 with 9.2? Will it sound close to our existing set-up?

Thanks in advance po and appreciate your inputs.
 

We have tried 9.2 in a 6 x 10meter room and it performed very good you'll be amazed with its balance sound ( high, mids & bass ) paired it with a 30watts Tube amp even at high volume it stand with composure.

Audition is the answer or if someone can lend you one yan ang DA best!! hehehehehe

btw here's a small review not exactly for the speaker but take note 9.2 and 9.4 was used out of the box hope this help.


Quote from Sir audioslave

I'm not an avid fan of tube-equipped gears until I auditioned the Consonance m99plus integrated tube amp. Tube amps are misconceived as expensive pieces of equipment and are available only to a privileged and moneyed audiophiles. Inasmuch as this amp had been mass-produced in China, they are reasonably priced to afford tube newbies like me to explore and experience the wonderfully magical sound of tubes. Thus, owning this competitively priced tube amp, sporting the Consonance brand, adds pride of ownership and brings tube quality sound within the budget of almost every music lover.

My sudden swing of preference and growing interest to tube amps was the result of my latest conclusion that CD sound can never approximate the analog sound of the resurrected vinyls. Be that as it may, a tube amp can nonetheless, give life to the clinical and harsh sound of most CD players, which can often sound smoother and more musical when played through a tube amplifier. This premise goes without saying that tube amps are the better amps if compared to solid state amps but since my musical preference is now leaning towards the quieter genre and more relaxing music, it necessarily follows that I have to follow the route that would put me closer to the music. Gone are the days when I crave for the slam-bang and kick-ass bass of a solid state amp. Now, my aural experience begins when I listen to the more soothing sound of tubes that occasionally brings shivers to the bone and spine-tingling sensation when playing some of my favorite CD tracks.

The m99plus features 4 Shuguang 6P3P output tubes (which can be replaced by 6L6s, KT-66s and 5881s), 2 Shuguang 6N8P driver tubes (which can be replaced by 6SN7s and VT-231s), 2 Electro-Harmonix 12AX7EH pre-amp tubes configured in a SRPP circuitry, 3 toroidal transformers, 3 gold plated line inputs, large high quality gold plated 5-way speaker binding posts in 8 ohms and 4 ohms tap, all housed in a massive metal chassis with wooded side panels, weighing almost 18 Kgs. The m99plus is a solid-state rectified amp and equipped with a solidly-built remote control allowing you to adjust the volume.

After almost 1 month of breaking-in, the transformers may have already settled down and are now bringing out the best sound they can get. The bass is fuller, the mids warmer and sweeter but the highs needs further extension and relatively rolled-off without much air. I went to the boondocks to test my amp with the new Wharfedales Diamond 9.2 and 9.4 which were loaned on home audition by Spectra Audio Video to hans adriene. Using a turn table as the source, the amp can easily cope up with fast beat music playing some tracks from the album of the Queen and The Cure without muddling the sound and faithfully bringing out each instrumentation with clarity and detail. Playing around with 6sn7s and 12ax7s spare tubes of some fellow members, we tried tube rolling different tubes to get a combination that would give a better sound. First, we tried changing the stock Shuguang 6N8P driver tubes to Sylvania 6SN7GTB. Remarkably, the amp began to breathe with so much atmosphere and seemingly unrestricted airiness. The soundstage simply became so expansive with dramatic improvement in the high frequency extension. Then we plugged RCA 6SN7GTBs and still obtained a similarly desirable sound than that offered by the stock Chinese tubes but the Sylvania 6SN7GTBs have smoother highs and better soundstage. We did try replacing the Electro-Harmonix 12ax7s with Telefunken 12ax7s and retained the RCA 6SN7GTBs as driver tubes - the result was, I guessed, the most optimal sound the m99+ can muster. Changing the RCA 6SN7GTBs with Sylvania 6SN7GTBs at the driver stage and retaining the Telefunkens on the linestage is a bit overkill and would somewhat give a hint of sibilance playing some Jeena Lodwick tracks. All these tubes were tried with the new Wharfedale Diamond 9.2 speakers bi-wired to the amp using XLO ER-14 and XLO PRO650F.

The amp became more imposing when hooked to kimpao's AMX tube pre-amp tweaked by no less than the emerging tweak master - JojoD. The m99+ with an active tube pre-amp is a tough act to follow as they jointly stirred up so much bloom and ambience. Even fingertip-friction sounds of the guitars can be heard with similar likeness. The sonic improvement conveyed by the pre-amp is like getting the singer closer to the audience, thus, bringing more life to the music.

With better tubes plugged to a good amp like m99+, the Wharfedale Diamond 9.2s suddenly became an instant hit among the listeners. In fact, the 9.2s are preferred over the 9.4s by many since the floorstander would sound boxy and sometimes boomy. One lesson learned is that - spending so much on speakers is not at all necessary as long as you have a good tube amp like the m99+.

Associated Equipment:

Yamaha CD Player
Technics Turn Table
AMX ConTodo MkII Pre-amp
XLO Pro650F
XLO ER14
DIY silver wire interconnects
Wharfedale Diamond 9.2s and 9.4s

 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 04, 2005 at 10:42 PM
I have been auditioning the Diamond 9CS for the past few months, together with the Diamond 9 fronts.   Just when I thought the 9CS was the best center speaker under P5,000, the 9CM arrived.  Yes, the 9CS is still my best bet under P5000, but only because the 9CM goes beyond this price point, but not by much (it's P6,300).  Indeed, the 9CM is my best bet under P10,000.

It's funny coz I bought this speaker even without enough auditioning.  When I found out that Spectra had a beech-color 9CM on stock, I immediately asked to hear it.  I normally wouldn't rely on an audition in an environment such as in Spectra (the space was not designed for critical auditioning anyway)... but after hearing the 9CM and 9CS side-by-side, for less than 10 minutes, I grabbed the unit... baka kasi mabili na agad ng ibang members dito.  :D

Meron pa yatang rosewood na naiwan dun...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Feb 05, 2005 at 11:21 AM
Sir Spectra,
available na ba 9.0?
want to buy for surround.

thanks ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 05, 2005 at 11:53 AM
Sir Spectra,
available na ba 9.0?
want to buy for surround.

thanks ;)

If I may just interrupt for a while, why not just get a 9SR for surrounds? These are excellent performers, and I even use them in straight stereo in my bedroom system.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Feb 05, 2005 at 03:34 PM
Sir Spectra,
available na ba 9.0?
want to buy for surround.

thanks ;)
9.0 is not available, it comes only in the package of 9ht
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on Feb 05, 2005 at 03:39 PM
what's the difference between the 9.0 and the 9.1?

also would you guys consider the 9series to be more on the warm or bright side?(yung nabreak-in na) 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 06, 2005 at 01:43 AM
what's the difference between the 9.0 and the 9.1?

also would you guys consider the 9series to be more on the warm or bright side?(yung nabreak-in na) 

Opinion ko lang, the 9 series is slightly on the warm side. But since warm vs. bright is relative, I would like to make clear that my "reference" bookshelf speakers, which to me represent midway between warm and bright, are the B&W Signature 805 and Revel Performa M20.

Dahil medyo warm ang Diamond 9, you can have long listening sessions, or watch several movies, at high volume levels without much listening fatigue.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: renrico on Feb 07, 2005 at 10:43 AM
We have tried 9.2 in a 6 x 10meter room and it performed very good you'll be amazed with its balance sound ( high, mids & bass ) paired it with a 30watts Tube amp even at high volume it stand with composure.

Audition is the answer or if someone can lend you one yan ang DA best!! hehehehehe

btw here's a small review not exactly for the speaker but take note 9.2 and 9.4 was used out of the box hope this help.


Quote from Sir audioslave

I'm not an avid fan of tube-equipped gears until I auditioned the Consonance m99plus integrated tube amp. Tube amps are misconceived as expensive pieces of equipment and are available only to a privileged and moneyed audiophiles. Inasmuch as this amp had been mass-produced in China, they are reasonably priced to afford tube newbies like me to explore and experience the wonderfully magical sound of tubes. Thus, owning this competitively priced tube amp, sporting the Consonance brand, adds pride of ownership and brings tube quality sound within the budget of almost every music lover.

My sudden swing of preference and growing interest to tube amps was the result of my latest conclusion that CD sound can never approximate the analog sound of the resurrected vinyls. Be that as it may, a tube amp can nonetheless, give life to the clinical and harsh sound of most CD players, which can often sound smoother and more musical when played through a tube amplifier. This premise goes without saying that tube amps are the better amps if compared to solid state amps but since my musical preference is now leaning towards the quieter genre and more relaxing music, it necessarily follows that I have to follow the route that would put me closer to the music. Gone are the days when I crave for the slam-bang and kick-ass bass of a solid state amp. Now, my aural experience begins when I listen to the more soothing sound of tubes that occasionally brings shivers to the bone and spine-tingling sensation when playing some of my favorite CD tracks.

The m99plus features 4 Shuguang 6P3P output tubes (which can be replaced by 6L6s, KT-66s and 5881s), 2 Shuguang 6N8P driver tubes (which can be replaced by 6SN7s and VT-231s), 2 Electro-Harmonix 12AX7EH pre-amp tubes configured in a SRPP circuitry, 3 toroidal transformers, 3 gold plated line inputs, large high quality gold plated 5-way speaker binding posts in 8 ohms and 4 ohms tap, all housed in a massive metal chassis with wooded side panels, weighing almost 18 Kgs. The m99plus is a solid-state rectified amp and equipped with a solidly-built remote control allowing you to adjust the volume.

After almost 1 month of breaking-in, the transformers may have already settled down and are now bringing out the best sound they can get. The bass is fuller, the mids warmer and sweeter but the highs needs further extension and relatively rolled-off without much air. I went to the boondocks to test my amp with the new Wharfedales Diamond 9.2 and 9.4 which were loaned on home audition by Spectra Audio Video to hans adriene. Using a turn table as the source, the amp can easily cope up with fast beat music playing some tracks from the album of the Queen and The Cure without muddling the sound and faithfully bringing out each instrumentation with clarity and detail. Playing around with 6sn7s and 12ax7s spare tubes of some fellow members, we tried tube rolling different tubes to get a combination that would give a better sound. First, we tried changing the stock Shuguang 6N8P driver tubes to Sylvania 6SN7GTB. Remarkably, the amp began to breathe with so much atmosphere and seemingly unrestricted airiness. The soundstage simply became so expansive with dramatic improvement in the high frequency extension. Then we plugged RCA 6SN7GTBs and still obtained a similarly desirable sound than that offered by the stock Chinese tubes but the Sylvania 6SN7GTBs have smoother highs and better soundstage. We did try replacing the Electro-Harmonix 12ax7s with Telefunken 12ax7s and retained the RCA 6SN7GTBs as driver tubes - the result was, I guessed, the most optimal sound the m99+ can muster. Changing the RCA 6SN7GTBs with Sylvania 6SN7GTBs at the driver stage and retaining the Telefunkens on the linestage is a bit overkill and would somewhat give a hint of sibilance playing some Jeena Lodwick tracks. All these tubes were tried with the new Wharfedale Diamond 9.2 speakers bi-wired to the amp using XLO ER-14 and XLO PRO650F.

The amp became more imposing when hooked to kimpao's AMX tube pre-amp tweaked by no less than the emerging tweak master - JojoD. The m99+ with an active tube pre-amp is a tough act to follow as they jointly stirred up so much bloom and ambience. Even fingertip-friction sounds of the guitars can be heard with similar likeness. The sonic improvement conveyed by the pre-amp is like getting the singer closer to the audience, thus, bringing more life to the music.

With better tubes plugged to a good amp like m99+, the Wharfedale Diamond 9.2s suddenly became an instant hit among the listeners. In fact, the 9.2s are preferred over the 9.4s by many since the floorstander would sound boxy and sometimes boomy. One lesson learned is that - spending so much on speakers is not at all necessary as long as you have a good tube amp like the m99+.

Associated Equipment:

Yamaha CD Player
Technics Turn Table
AMX ConTodo MkII Pre-amp
XLO Pro650F
XLO ER14
DIY silver wire interconnects
Wharfedale Diamond 9.2s and 9.4s

 

Thanks Sir hans adriane. Appreciate your feedback.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Feb 07, 2005 at 11:07 AM
sw250 is now available
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on Feb 07, 2005 at 12:51 PM
Opinion ko lang, the 9 series is slightly on the warm side. But since warm vs. bright is relative, I would like to make clear that my "reference" bookshelf speakers, which to me represent midway between warm and bright, are the B&W Signature 805 and Revel Performa M20.

Dahil medyo warm ang Diamond 9, you can have long listening sessions, or watch several movies, at high volume levels without much listening fatigue.

got it sir arnel.  thanks for the info! :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Feb 07, 2005 at 05:54 PM
sw250 is now available

how much sir?  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 07, 2005 at 07:27 PM
AVGuide Monthly just reviewed the Diamond 9.6, and it's a good news that the entire issue is available for download FREE. Click here to download. (http://www.avguide.com/AVG_monthly/issue12_hispeed.pdf)


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: backdraft on Feb 08, 2005 at 05:24 AM
AVGuide Monthly just reviewed the Diamond 9.6, and it's a good news that the entire issue is available for download FREE. Click here to download. (http://www.avguide.com/AVG_monthly/issue12_hispeed.pdf)




ok to sir ah, sana every issue meron!  >:D >:D >:D

salamat sir arnel. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 08, 2005 at 07:53 AM
AVGuide Monthly just reviewed the Diamond 9.6, and it's a good news that the entire issue is available for download FREE. Click here to download. (http://www.avguide.com/AVG_monthly/issue12_hispeed.pdf)




thanks for the link, arnel :) i've read through many forums saying the new diamonds are just hype. and that what hifi has been praising the diamonds just because of the wharfedale's sponsorship. and that no other magazine is sharing the same review.

i'm glad avguide came up w/ one. hope we read more in the coming days.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Feb 08, 2005 at 10:41 AM
AVGuide Monthly just reviewed the Diamond 9.6, and it's a good news that the entire issue is available for download FREE. Click here to download. (http://www.avguide.com/AVG_monthly/issue12_hispeed.pdf)




Excellent pdf, contains reviews on receivers, speakers and players discussed in most threads here.  Would benefit members interested in these wares.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 09, 2005 at 01:30 PM
thanks for the link, arnel :) i've read through many forums saying the new diamonds are just hype. and that what hifi has been praising the diamonds just because of the wharfedale's sponsorship. and that no other magazine is sharing the same review.

i'm glad avguide came up w/ one. hope we read more in the coming days.

Given the reputation of Absolute Sound, from the same publisher of AVGuide Monthly, I trust that the Diamond 9 is more than hype.  Personally, I trust my ears more, and I've heard and own some Diamond 9 models, and I agree with what AVGuide, and What Hi-Fi for that matter, have been raving about.

Siguro naman almost lahat ng nasa thread na ito would agree that Diamond 9 series offers great performance at a very consumer-friendly price.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 09, 2005 at 01:59 PM
Given the reputation of Absolute Sound, from the same publisher of AVGuide Monthly, I trust that the Diamond 9 is more than hype.  Personally, I trust my ears more, and I've heard and own some Diamond 9 models, and I agree with what AVGuide, and What Hi-Fi for that matter, have been raving about.

Siguro naman almost lahat ng nasa thread na ito would agree that Diamond 9 series offers great performance at a very consumer-friendly price.

thanks, arnel for the reply :)

im quite new in this hobby and it gives me peace of mind knowing i acquired good gears and that i'm heading at the right direction. it's just troubling that i get to read through forums that say otherwise. i really feel like i'm reading through a BOSE thread :( making me really consider upgrading.

im no audiophile, but i can trust my ears more now :) i may or may not be hearing the best at this price point, but i can say the sound it's definitely good.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on Feb 09, 2005 at 05:34 PM
sirs just wanted to add i also agree with the review of what hi-fi on the diamond 9.1 although i was only able to appreciate it more when it's biwired.  i haven't heard the rest of the series but if you can biwire them, it'll sound really good.  laki ng difference compared to single-wire.   

Given the reputation of Absolute Sound, from the same publisher of AVGuide Monthly, I trust that the Diamond 9 is more than hype.  Personally, I trust my ears more, and I've heard and own some Diamond 9 models, and I agree with what AVGuide, and What Hi-Fi for that matter, have been raving about.

Siguro naman almost lahat ng nasa thread na ito would agree that Diamond 9 series offers great performance at a very consumer-friendly price.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 11, 2005 at 04:49 PM
im no audiophile, but i can trust my ears more now :) i may or may not be hearing the best at this price point, but i can say the sound it's definitely good.

First, always remember that in audio, choosing gear is much a matter of personal taste.  This is why we all own different gears... and to each of us, this is the best one for our budget, at least back in the time we bought it.

Don't worry about what a basher in some other forum would say, coz you are right... you SHOULD trust your own ears... it's not like you're buying your gears for THEM anyway.  What sounds good to you is indeed what would give you listening pleasure, and hence the one you should have in your listening space.

Still I'm happy that many people here share my appreciation of the Diamond 9 series.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 11, 2005 at 05:03 PM
sirs just wanted to add i also agree with the review of what hi-fi on the diamond 9.1 although i was only able to appreciate it more when it's biwired.  i haven't heard the rest of the series but if you can biwire them, it'll sound really good.  laki ng difference compared to single-wire.   

I agree that biwiring makes a difference.  However, the degree by which biwiring makes the sound better depends on how good your wires are in the first place.  If you use a good "designer" speaker cable, you might not gain much by bi-wiring as compared to a single run of that cable.  For example, I use van den Hul cables for my Diamond 9 CM, and I don't hear much difference between single- and bi-wire.  But still I bi-wire them just because I got two runs of cable anyway, so nothing to lose. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jacorb88 on Feb 11, 2005 at 05:28 PM
i read a write-up on bi-wiring. they conducted a scientific test between bi-wired and not. they presented several graphs, facts and figures. the outcome: very little difference to justify the cost of the additional run of the spkr cable. i claim no expertise on this subject but i guess, this matter is very much debatable.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Feb 11, 2005 at 05:59 PM
Statistical Double Blind Testing (DBT) have yet to establish that bi-wiring makes any difference that can be audibly detected in the test.  Whatever benefit there is appears to come purely from the fact that the wire gauge is doubled.  WHich mathematically should provide lesser resistive impedance when using cable lengths above 30ft.  Lessening the wire resistance is always welcome. Even if that's just computational.   But the sonic differences are too minute to audibly matter.  If there are people who can hear differences, good for them. But that's suspiciously more a product of suggested subjectivity than anything scientific.  DBT is the ONLY scientific way to establish any difference.  But sadly or happilly, audiophiles do not engage in DBTs in this hobby in the privacy of their listening rooms.  ;D  I too am hard pressed to report any sonic difference.  But I also bi-wire, if only to decrease resistive impedance from a purely mathematical exercise and a comforting thought. Not because I hear difference.  In fact, there was a nice scientific article about the adverse effect of bi-wiring (just didn't bookmark the site) that  allegedly smears whatever phase coherence there is between the tweets and the woofs. But I leave that to the reader to explore.   

Bi-amping is another story.  That's where the sonic benefits can become apparent. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Feb 11, 2005 at 06:02 PM
Just had the chance to compare the Diamond 9.5 vs. the Pacific Evo 40 for a short time.  Call me weird but on first impression, I couldn't tell any significant difference between the two!  I am sure that my ears CAN detect differences in sound even on short auditions... but really there seems to be a very thin line that sets these 2 speakers apart from each other, sonically.

Has Wharfedale achieved that much technical advancement that they were able to trickle down the Evo 40 technology into the Diamond 9.5 at less than half the price?  I think they have, and now I'm pretty sure that an even better Pacific lineup is in the works at this very moment, to cope with the excellent value for money that the Diamond 9 series brings.  Right now, I personally don't see any reason to prefer the Pacific Evo to the Diamond 9.

Ok... I'll be honest... mas nagustuhan ko yung midrange ng Diamond 9 kaysa ng Pacific Evo, but not significantly.  Mas may "presence" overall, but again by a narrow margin.  In all fairness, medyo mas malinis ang highs ng Pacific Evo if crank up the volume.

Arnel,

Bro just curious san mo na audition EVo40? wala pa ako nakita nun. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Feb 11, 2005 at 06:11 PM
The Pacific Evo series was designed specifically to cater to a more upscale market than the market intended for the Diamonds.  Pressumably using better crossovers and drivers, the Pacific Evo should have sonic qualities that better the Diamond 8 series.  The curvy non-rectagular cross-section of the Diamond 9 inherits from that of the Pacific Evo line.  Internal standing waves that can modulate the drivers are reduced with this enclosure geometry.  So maybe the Diamond 9 series can approach the sonics of the Evo line in some areas.  Just a thought.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 11, 2005 at 09:47 PM
i read a write-up on bi-wiring. they conducted a scientific test between bi-wired and not. they presented several graphs, facts and figures. the outcome: very little difference to justify the cost of the additional run of the spkr cable. i claim no expertise on this subject but i guess, this matter is very much debatable.

kaya nga ako parang nagdadalawang isip mag-biwire. i try hard to understand principles concerning this hobby pro parang nde bumenta sa kin yung biwiring :( i very much hope to see a universally accepted mathematical proof, for or against biwiring, soon...para matapos na itong debateng ito.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 12, 2005 at 12:14 AM
i read a write-up on bi-wiring. they conducted a scientific test between bi-wired and not. they presented several graphs, facts and figures. the outcome: very little difference to justify the cost of the additional run of the spkr cable. i claim no expertise on this subject but i guess, this matter is very much debatable.

I am guessing that they used very high quality cables, that is why the difference is much less.  Try this at home, use a very cheap 18-guage (or so) cable and run that in both single- and bi-wire to a Diamond 9 or similar speaker.  You'll hear the difference, unless you're really lucky with cables, or your speaker's resolution is not high enough to distinguish the difference.  This experiment won't cost you much.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 12, 2005 at 12:37 AM
Arnel,

Bro just curious san mo na audition EVo40? wala pa ako nakita nun. :)

Heard the Evo 40 in the same house where I auditioned the Diamond 9.5.  That was a house, not a showroom.  I haven't seen any Evo 40 in any showroom locally.  Spectra has Evo 8 and Evo 10, but I didn't see any bigger Evo's there.

But the first time I heard the Evo was in Beijing (where they were real cheap) some two years ago.  I didn't care about them then, not because they were not good, but because I was looking for planar speakers.  In short, I didn't audition them.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 12, 2005 at 12:56 AM
kaya nga ako parang nagdadalawang isip mag-biwire. i try hard to understand principles concerning this hobby pro parang nde bumenta sa kin yung biwiring :( i very much hope to see a universally accepted mathematical proof, for or against biwiring, soon...para matapos na itong debateng ito.

If only all speakers are NOT bi-wirable, tapos nga itong debate.  :) 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on Feb 12, 2005 at 03:12 AM
I agree that biwiring makes a difference.  However, the degree by which biwiring makes the sound better depends on how good your wires are in the first place.  If you use a good "designer" speaker cable, you might not gain much by bi-wiring as compared to a single run of that cable.  For example, I use van den Hul cables for my Diamond 9 CM, and I don't hear much difference between single- and bi-wire.  But still I bi-wire them just because I got two runs of cable anyway, so nothing to lose. :)

you're probably right sirs...when i started biwiring before with van den hul(tweets) and audio pro silver wires(woofer) and it didn't sound good.  then retaining the same for the tweets and using gauge 12 speaker wires(copper) from ace hardware(have them around too) for the woofer it was then that i noticed a big improvement in the dynamics.  i wasn't able to compare different wires when i used single-wire though...but the one i used was audio pro so that's probably why the sound was so bad. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Feb 12, 2005 at 10:20 AM
taggart,

Try experiment changing the metal jumper with speaker wire and hear if have difference. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 12, 2005 at 12:22 PM
taggart,

Try experiment changing the metal jumper with speaker wire and hear if have difference. :)

eto ang bumenta sa akin :) anyway, i'll try biwiring na. i have extra runs of cable naman. will be using 12 ga for both LF and HF. will post results soon. hopefully, positive ones :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on Feb 12, 2005 at 02:15 PM
will look for spare wires to play with and try that out hehe...thanks!

taggart,

Try experiment changing the metal jumper with speaker wire and hear if have difference. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hans_adriane on Feb 12, 2005 at 09:35 PM
eto ang bumenta sa akin :) anyway, i'll try biwiring na. i have extra runs of cable naman. will be using 12 ga for both LF and HF. will post results soon. hopefully, positive ones :)

Bro, biwiring try to check the small details and separation ;D i suggest you use silver wires for HF and copper for LF.  ;D ;D silver wire good for vocals while copper wire for slam.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 12, 2005 at 09:50 PM
Bro, biwiring try to check the small details and separation ;D i suggest you use silver wires for HF and copper for LF.  ;D ;D silver wire good for vocals while copper wire for slam.

sir hans,

bu silver, you mean the silver-colored ones like the audio pro?

thanks :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 13, 2005 at 07:43 AM
sir hans,

bu silver, you mean the silver-colored ones like the audio pro?

thanks :)

Be careful... pure silver wire is not the same as silver-plated copper wire.

Pure silver wires can be VERY expensive, yet can sound real anemic if you use it for bass.  But if you use it for your tweeters, it can give you sonic wonders.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: synchro on Feb 13, 2005 at 07:59 AM
Be careful... pure silver wire is not the same as silver-plated copper wire.

Pure silver wires can be VERY expensive, yet can sound real anemic if you use it for bass.  But if you use it for your tweeters, it can give you sonic wonders.

very true.  the ones that you see being retailed for a few hundred bucks per metre are merely silver colored ones. I remember seeing the real deal at Listening in Style a few years ago. The retail price of the pure silver ire that they have there is Php350T for a stereo run. too bad I wasnt able to audition it with the multitude of high end speakers they have there.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 13, 2005 at 08:24 AM
sobrang mahal pala yang silver wires na yan. guess i'll have to stick w/ the generic that i have :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Feb 14, 2005 at 09:50 AM
sobrang mahal pala yang silver wires na yan. guess i'll have to stick w/ the generic that i have :)

Bro try to look for Belden wire for silver. :) again sa HF mo lang gamitin and not sa LF kasi yun slam ng bass mawawala kaya copper naman for LF.

Happy hunting..

We tried this combo belden wire + Xlo pro 650f.  ;D ;D or for silver meron ata CAT5 but not sure though.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 14, 2005 at 09:57 AM
Bro try to look for Belden wire for silver. :) again sa HF mo lang gamitin and not sa LF kasi yun slam ng bass mawawala kaya copper naman for LF.

Happy hunting..

We tried this combo belden wire + Xlo pro 650f.  ;D ;D or for silver meron ata CAT5 but not sure though.



thanks, sir hans for the suggestions :) ive seen many belden wires sa office namin. baka me silver dun hehehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Feb 14, 2005 at 10:02 AM
thanks, sir hans for the suggestions :) ive seen many belden wires sa office namin. baka me silver dun hehehe.

Yun pinakamataba hanapin mo. :) btw meron direction just follow the print to the direction going to speaker yun if you got a new wire break in konti tapos play some vocals muna and instrument hehehehe. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Feb 14, 2005 at 12:11 PM
very true.  the ones that you see being retailed for a few hundred bucks per metre are merely silver colored ones. I remember seeing the real deal at Listening in Style a few years ago. The retail price of the pure silver ire that they have there is Php350T for a stereo run. too bad I wasnt able to audition it with the multitude of high end speakers they have there.

Another rip-off, if you ask me.  Silver wire is just about 8% better than copper of the same purityin terms of electrical conductivity.  And a 99.99% silver wire can be had for about $12 per ounce and doesn/t really have wild swings in the metals market.  A ounce of 99.99% silver can yield 7 feet of 16 awg thickness. 

Here's a good site for making your own silver wire:
http://www.laventure.net/tourist/cables.htm
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: qguy on Feb 14, 2005 at 12:52 PM
for 350T...you might as well hire a jeweler and make gold wires...hehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 14, 2005 at 01:10 PM
for 350T...you might as well hire a jeweler and make gold wires...hehe

nice one there, qguy :) oh well, ganun talaga e. it's really up for the hobbyist to decide, though. but it's good that we have forums like pinoydvd to discuss these things :)

im for good quality generics. whether copper, silver or gold. or platinum :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: synchro on Feb 14, 2005 at 01:46 PM
Another rip-off, if you ask me.  Silver wire is just about 8% better than copper of the same purity.  And a 99.99% silver wire can be had for about $12 per ounce and doesn/t really have wild swings in the metals market.  A ounce of 99.99% silver can yield 7 feet of 16 awg thickness. 


I forgot the brand of the cable but I do recall being shellshocked when they told me the sticker price of that cable.
Most of their gears are of the ultra high end variety that no mere mortal can afford so when us mere mortals hear of their sticker prices we do get shocked.  You got to have a really hefty paycheck to get a chance at taking those gears home with you. hard to believe that there really is a market for such ultra high end gears but apparently there really are people who can well afford such monsters.
balik tayo sa cable...come to think of it if you get their multi million peso speakers and 2 million peso amplifiers (x 2 pa kasi mono amps) then getting those Php350T speaker cables would do justice for your amp-speaker set up.  :)

para hindi OT:  Wharfedales do sing better with cables that are very transparent and revealing. as we all know that most wharfes have this tendency to muffle the "air" of the top end.  mating it with cables that are revealing should at  the very least improve this trait if not eliminate it. experiment with bi-wire since the speakers does have this option. if you get it right then stick to it.

Tip.....try to beg, borrow or steal cables first before puchasing a new set. each brand and model sounds very different when compared to each other (that is with my ears, my set, my room, my music and my opinion).
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 14, 2005 at 03:22 PM
Hey guys, have you been to Park Square 1 lately?  Just noticed na bidang bida ngayon dun ang Diamond 9.6, na after a long wait, finally ni-release na rin sa stores.  There are 2 stores where I noticed a pair of beech color 9.6's.

I was about to buy these, considering that I was impressed by the 9.5 for its unmatched value for money.  But I've waited long, in fact too long, na nainip na ako... I didn't like the idea of blindedly ordering these, and the display units never got to the stores for a long time.  Good thing, a good fellow offered me a good swap deal for a pair of Magnepan planars... ayun I can't be any happier with what I'm hearing in my living room!

In any case, I'm still interested in finding time (kelan kaya) to audition the 9.6.  I'm not expecting it to be any better (not even close) than my newly-acquired Magnepans, but hey the 9.6 is less than 20K !!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: obey on Feb 14, 2005 at 04:20 PM
Synchro,

Would you be able to enumerate a few cables that are revealing and transparent just so that the newbies (myself included) would have an idea. Thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Feb 14, 2005 at 04:22 PM


balik tayo sa cable...come to think of it if you get their multi million peso speakers and 2 million peso amplifiers (x 2 pa kasi mono amps) then getting those Php350T speaker cables would do justice for your amp-speaker set up.  :)


Not necessarly.  P350T is still P350T which can buy a nice B&W Nautilus 800 series center or pair.  ;D

I used to share you opinion: "binabagayan lang."  That's what I used to say.   Not anymore.

I've seen some set-ups on the net using expensive Wilson Audio and Nautilus speakers mated to Bryston and Thiele amps using mere $1.50/foot 10 gauge speaker cables. 

Even THX-certified theater systems using equipment 10X more expensive than the most expensive home systems use ordinary cables.  And to think THX wants home entertainment systems to sound like what you hear in THX theaters.  ;D

When you start to consider that some of the most expensive speakers just use ordinary 16AWG or 14AWG wires internally to connect crossovers to drivers and are soldered to speaker terminals, and that some of the finest tube and SS amps use plain 10AWG wires to connect the circuit board to the speaker terminals, I begin to wonder what point there is to using expensive cables betweeen the speaker and the amp.  Even more so when you consider that those solid wires used for speaker voice coils are just plain 18AWG wires or less.  They're not even silver!! ;D

Well, that's also just an opinion of mine.  But one shared by statistical bias-controlled double blind testing that is said to be the only scientific way to establish and validate any kind of perception-based difference between products.  And todate,  not a single DBT has ever established any audible difference between expensive cables and zip cords. 

That's not to say that P350T cables have no place in hobby.  OFcourse they do.  The power of suggestion is everywhere in this hobby.    And this hobby is so personal it has so much room for both biased and objective perceptions.  ;D   It's all up to one's ears and wallets.  SO happens my own ears can't distinguish between well-made cables.  That's good for my wallet.  ;D Just my thoughts.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 14, 2005 at 04:42 PM

I forgot the brand of the cable but I do recall being shellshocked when they told me the sticker price of that cable.
Most of their gears are of the ultra high end variety that no mere mortal can afford so when us mere mortals hear of their sticker prices we do get shocked.  You got to have a really hefty paycheck to get a chance at taking those gears home with you. hard to believe that there really is a market for such ultra high end gears but apparently there really are people who can well afford such monsters.
balik tayo sa cable...come to think of it if you get their multi million peso speakers and 2 million peso amplifiers (x 2 pa kasi mono amps) then getting those Php350T speaker cables would do justice for your amp-speaker set up.  :)

Well, designing high-end cables are pretty much a black art... there's no defined standards, no accepted rules.  I still believe that the conductor type, purity, gauge and geometry of the wires do matter, and many accept that.  However, I what I don't accept is the rationale behind ultra-expensive, exotic cables.

Wait, there's one thing that I firmly believe in... it's that "network box" found in high-end (not exotic) cables such as MIT and Transparent.  I really hear the difference from normal cables... the sound is just bigger in scale.  However, I don't mean the ultra-expensive MITs or Transparents, even the reasonably priced models (such as the MIT Terminator 3s that I use at home) make a huge difference from normal cables... the higher up you go in the product lines, the less incremental difference you get.

So to me, quality cabling is good... but ultra-expensive cabling is just too much of a good thing.  Even if I had millions, I don't feel the need for those exotic stuff.  I'm not ready to spend tons of money for that last ounce of sound quality... i'm just being practical.

Now since we are still talking about Wharfedale Diamond 9 (right?), the bottomline is, you don't need expensive cables.  Remember that these speakers were designed to match reasonably-priced electronics and other components.  They may not possess high enough resolution to even show the difference between expensive cables... but don't take me wrong, the Diamond 9 speakers still need good cabling... debatably, biwired.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Feb 14, 2005 at 05:47 PM
The expensive exotic cable maybe for those who have tried it that it works (on their wharf 9 series, para di OT  ;D)  - though not necessarily understood why it worked in the first place.  :-\

Best cable of one (wharf 9) user may not be the best cable for another (wharf 9 user) - this is why there is no definite rule to the right cable. Simply because, there is no rule which brand of amp and what type (tube of SS) of amp to use in the first place.

Geometry may play some factor in the sound reproduction - just because of the amount of inductance a certain geometry introduce in the cable - more inductance, bad HF repro.

Hi-end (exotic ???, ripped-off :P, etc) cable are normally capacitive, so bad for the LF repro. Some of this so-called hi-end have network box. It is nothing but resistor network to counteract the capacitance/inductance of their cable. The direction in cable can somehow sound funny for typical wire-mentality - but it might be needed if the cable manufacturer intended which resistor network is in the (wharf 9) speaker side and which is in the amp side.

Most tube amps are so sensitive to capacitive cable - SS  are not, though some exotic SS amps are quite vulnerable as well. Silver wire are sometimes the choice of tube audiop as there is no much bass to such kind of amp - so much in mid-high typically.

I have some of my friends trashed their expensive cable after discovering that ordinary cables sound better - and they know it has something to do with capacitance issues in the cable. Some old/surplus SS amp are also vulnerable to high cap cable.

Bottomline, dont assume a good cable somewhere is good for you too. Expensive cable is not always the best for your system. Cheap cable is not always bad. If you will use your ears to listen to your system  ::), than hearing those hypes or emotional declaration of those using expensive :-\, exotic ???, ripped-off  :P or personally- hand-weaved cable 8), then you will be protected from unnecessary expenses and wasted time.

Although if you have the identical source up to the speakers, and he has made discoveries - then go to his place and have a listen. Baka naman 70 years old na yon at talagang ang mahina e sensitivity of his ears na. Di kaya bangag na! pero pag ok naman sya, at ok nga ang sound niya sa wharf 9 series  ;D, it lessens your discovery time.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 14, 2005 at 05:55 PM
Even THX-certified theater systems using equipment 10X more expensive than the most expensive home systems use ordinary cables.  And to think THX wants home entertainment systems to sound like what you hear in THX theaters.  ;D

The Skywalker THX Studio at Lucasfilm uses expensive MIT Oracle cabling.  However, I agree that for cinema sound, both theater and home, ultra-expensive cabling may not make much difference, as opposed to straight stereo home listening, where nuances and inner detail is much important.

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When you start to consider that some of the most expensive speakers just use ordinary 16AWG or 14AWG wires internally to connect crossovers to drivers and are soldered to speaker terminals, and that some of the finest tube and SS amps use plain 10AWG wires to connect the circuit board to the speaker terminals, I begin to wonder what point there is to using expensive cables betweeen the speaker and the amp.  Even more so when you consider that those solid wires used for speaker voice coils are just plain 18AWG wires or less.  They're not even silver!! ;D

Internal cabling does not need to be very complicated.  Why? Compare the lengths of cable run inside the speakers, or amplifiers, to that in a normal amp-to-speaker connection.  The much shorter internal cabling does not tend to degrade the signal, but the longer external connections require a more careful consideration so that signal integrity is kept through the whole length.  But take note... real high-end speakers' internal cabling are typically NOT your ordinary cables, I'd bet on it.

Back to the Diamond 9 topic, my Diamond 9SR, an entry-level speaker, still shows the difference between my van den Hul cabling and an ordinary cable, especially in the clarity and refinement of the treble.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Feb 14, 2005 at 06:41 PM
anyone auditioned the 9.6?  ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Feb 14, 2005 at 06:52 PM
anyone auditioned the 9.6?  ???

Oh! Pre! tagal mong nawala. Busy ba?  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Feb 14, 2005 at 08:56 PM
kimpao: ngayon lang nabakante hehe ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Feb 15, 2005 at 09:46 AM

Internal cabling does not need to be very complicated.  Why? Compare the lengths of cable run inside the speakers, or amplifiers, to that in a normal amp-to-speaker connection.  The much shorter internal cabling does not tend to degrade the signal, but the longer external connections require a more careful consideration so that signal integrity is kept through the whole length.  But take note... real high-end speakers' internal cabling are typically NOT your ordinary cables, I'd bet on it.


The chain is only as good as the weakest link.  Whether it is 1 inch or 10 meters.

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Back to the Diamond 9 topic, my Diamond 9SR, an entry-level speaker, still shows the difference between my van den Hul cabling and an ordinary cable, especially in the clarity and refinement of the treble.


Good for you.  Did you do any bias-controlled DBT? 

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: synchro on Feb 15, 2005 at 10:22 AM
Synchro,

Would you be able to enumerate a few cables that are revealing and transparent just so that the newbies (myself included) would have an idea. Thanks!

I have once owned an used the ff speaker cables. I find most of them transparent but in varying stages din. it really will depend ultimately on your ears and your assoiated gears bro.

1. Van Den Hul - model: The Clearwater
2. MIT
3. Audience
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Feb 15, 2005 at 12:20 PM
anyone auditioned the 9.6?  ???

Musta na sir.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Feb 15, 2005 at 12:30 PM
hmm...smells like another debate about branded and generic cables...hope we go back to the topic...anyway i'll be auditioning the 9.6 today ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: synchro on Feb 15, 2005 at 01:51 PM
I've seen some set-ups on the net using expensive Wilson Audio and Nautilus speakers mated to Bryston and Thiele amps using mere $1.50/foot 10 gauge speaker cables. 


avphile

just because some bloke out there slapped on a pair of zip cord speaker wires between a high end amp and a high end speaker and put the article up on the net doesnt mean that its automatically sounds good dude. reading about it is totally different from hearing it.

I for one believe in the improvement that good quality cables can take your system to the next level.  for the price that I paid for my set of cables, it really improved my system most specifically in the mid band.  prior to my cable upgrade i was contemplating on upgrading my pre amp but an upgrade on cables lang pala can do the job so I ended up spending less.

now for the Wharfedale users here...it wont hurt if you try to hear it for yourself. beg, borrow or steal before you buy.  try it on your set up and make sure that the cables are already burned in since most cables benefit from it.  most entry level cable models from XLO, Audience etc wont break the bank (1K to 2K investment)...it just might give your system that little "extra" that you have been looking for.  good luck bros  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 15, 2005 at 02:23 PM
mga friends,

let's further discuss cables in the proper thread :) let's post personal experiences, testimonials, mathematical proofs and what have you.

so, how was the 9.6? :)

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Feb 15, 2005 at 05:40 PM

... burned in ...

the cable in the 9.6?  ???

I think bumblebee is correct - the cable topic should be settled on a different thread. my eyebrows up!  :-\  Replace a burned in cable with a working one!  ;D

What's the thread?  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: synchro on Feb 15, 2005 at 06:52 PM
the cable in the 9.6?  ???

I think bumblebee is correct - the cable topic should be settled on a different thread. my eyebrows up!  :-\  Replace a burned in cable with a working one!  ;D

What's the thread?  >:D

oops..i should have said broken in as in break in. sorry bout that.

anyways back to topic tayo. tama na yang cable talk. di talaga matatapos yan.
finally after a long wait I heard and auditioned the 9.6 already. it sounds stupendous (for the price) when mated to a hefty power amp but you do need to have the room though since its kinda boomy when shoehorned in a small space.  sa HT panalo ito considering that you get so much for so little.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Feb 15, 2005 at 07:10 PM
oops..i should have said broken in as in break in. sorry bout that.

anyways back to topic tayo. tama na yang cable talk. di talaga matatapos yan.
finally after a long wait I heard and auditioned the 9.6 already. it sounds stupendous (for the price) when mated to a hefty power amp but you do need to have the room though since its kinda boomy when shoehorned in a small space.  sa HT panalo ito considering that you get so much for so little.

same here, these speakers need lots of room and power, so instead of the 9.6 i "settled" with a diamond 9.1 and sw150 combo for my smallish room. I also auditioned the sw250 but for some odd reason...for a sealed sub it sounded boomy ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 15, 2005 at 07:24 PM
ive just biwired my 9.1s. 12 ga audio pro for LF and HF. nananakit daliri ko sa pagpilit na pagsamahin yung 2 matabang cable :(

i don't know whether the sound quality improved or not :( but that is not to say that it didn't improve. maybe it did. guess i just don't have golden ears yet. good for me :)

but the feeling is good :) i actually appreciate my little system more now :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iceman90a on Feb 15, 2005 at 10:20 PM
sometimes when its an improvement - you dont get to hear it immediately, but it "feels right" over an extended period. when you get used to the sound, try switching back to un-biwired mode and see if the sound "degrades" - we are usually more sensitive to deterioration of sound quality :)

my dad's analogy:

drink a glass of black label, then blue label - you wont really notice the change

drink a glass of blue label first - then drink black - you know there's a difference ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on Feb 15, 2005 at 10:38 PM
same here, these speakers need lots of room and power, so instead of the 9.6 i "settled" with a diamond 9.1 and sw150 combo for my smallish room. I also auditioned the sw250 but for some odd reason...for a sealed sub it sounded boomy ???

sir john...congrats on your new purchase!  btw i thought the sw250 is ported like the sw150? 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on Feb 15, 2005 at 10:42 PM
ive just biwired my 9.1s. 12 ga audio pro for LF and HF. nananakit daliri ko sa pagpilit na pagsamahin yung 2 matabang cable :(

i don't know whether the sound quality improved or not :( but that is not to say that it didn't improve. maybe it did. guess i just don't have golden ears yet. good for me :)

but the feeling is good :) i actually appreciate my little system more now :)

sir bumblebee...don't know why but my diamond 9.1 didn't like the audio pro cable at all...manipis tumunog.  then again i was using 14ga.  try copper wires on the LF and it might make a lot of difference.  for me it was night and day.  anyway...sorry to bring up the cable thingy again.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ca89056 on Feb 16, 2005 at 11:11 AM
Hi everyone,

Can anyone recommend inexpensive but decent stands for a pair of 9.1s?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Feb 16, 2005 at 11:57 AM
try perfect view stand
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Feb 16, 2005 at 12:01 PM
bumblebee,

wala bang nagbago sa tunog ng 9.1 mo when you bi-wired it?  ??? ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 16, 2005 at 12:55 PM
at first parang wala namang improvement. maybe i was expecting a night and day difference. but iceman's right. it really feels right :) i tried listening when it was quiet and there are times when i feel that it did improve.

objective assessment vs power of suggestion. i don't know w/c one im hearing. my system or my brain :(

but right now, i think im enjoying my system more. and that should be the bottom line :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 16, 2005 at 01:22 PM
I also auditioned the sw250 but for some odd reason...for a sealed sub it sounded boomy ???

Even a sealed sub can sound boomy in a small room.  Maybe it's because of the floor reinforcement on the downfiring design.  Because it is a sealed design, with a still-compact cabinet, the SW250 benefits not only from the beefier amp (it's less efficient) but also from some floor reinforcement.

Btw, which store has the SW250 already?  How much?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: edboy7 on Feb 16, 2005 at 07:17 PM
saw a pair of  9.6 (wood finish :)) @ sights and sounds parksquare for 17.5T ANG LAKI PALA NUN ;D with 8 inch woofers, anyone heard it already?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Feb 16, 2005 at 10:25 PM
Even a sealed sub can sound boomy in a small room.  Maybe it's because of the floor reinforcement on the downfiring design.  Because it is a sealed design, with a still-compact cabinet, the SW250 benefits not only from the beefier amp (it's less efficient) but also from some floor reinforcement.

Btw, which store has the SW250 already?  How much?

spectra has it, as for the booming i guess your right, if the flooring was heavily carpeted
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 18, 2005 at 02:48 PM
saw a pair of  9.6 (wood finish :)) @ sights and sounds parksquare for 17.5T ANG LAKI PALA NUN ;D with 8 inch woofers, anyone heard it already?

Sana may mag-post ng review nila dito of the Diamond 9.6.  I still don't have the time to seriously audition these speakers, but I am very interested to know about how they sound.  I suspect the listening areas in Park Square will not do any justice to the speakers, especially the bass and imaging, but at least it gives a clue.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hans_adriane on Feb 21, 2005 at 07:59 PM
spectra has it, as for the booming i guess your right, if the flooring was heavily carpeted

Sir musta auditioning mo ng 9.6??
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: don jose on Feb 22, 2005 at 07:09 PM
okay lang ba i pair ang 9.1 sa pioneer avr? 6 ohm kasi 9.1 di ba, e 8-16ohm ang nakalagay sa avr e? o diamond 8.3(8 ohm) na lang? w/c is better for HT/Audio?

how much nga pala 9.1?
may available pa bang 8.3? how much din?

thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Feb 22, 2005 at 07:17 PM
If you're going to use a subwoofer, just set the 9.1 speakers to SMALL on the AVR so the impedance mistmatch is minimized. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 22, 2005 at 09:44 PM
okay lang ba i pair ang 9.1 sa pioneer avr? 6 ohm kasi 9.1 di ba, e 8-16ohm ang nakalagay sa avr e? o diamond 8.3(8 ohm) na lang? w/c is better for HT/Audio?

how much nga pala 9.1?
may available pa bang 8.3? how much din?

thanks.


the 9.1 costs 5.5k/pair. i saw an 8.3 in sound dimension, park square 1 for less than 7k/pair. both are 6 ohmers.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gbtormes16 on Feb 24, 2005 at 02:02 PM
Got the 9.3( Sound Room -SM Cebu) two weeks ago to replace my old Fidek speakers for fronts. After breaking in for more than 200 hrs,  it sounds pretty fine ( for my ears ) & I'm very satisfied . With the price below 10k , what can you ask for ?  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 24, 2005 at 02:05 PM
gbtormes16, you're the first i know to have those. it's good to know you're enjoying them. btw, what amp are you using?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gbtormes16 on Feb 24, 2005 at 02:08 PM
gbtormes16, you're the first i know to have those. it's good to know you're enjoying them. btw, what amp are you using?

I'm using the Yamaha RXV-440, thanks..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 24, 2005 at 03:01 PM
Just heard the 9.6 last weekend.  The most noticeable difference from the 9.5 I heard (and liked) several weeks ago is the midrange.  The dome midrange is not there for nothing.  It gave the 9.6 a more effortless, transparent mid that seemed "faster" than the 9.5's.  Its midrange is nowhere close to an electrostatic (which some say it is), but it's THE best I heard under 20K.  Vocals sounded superb, and the initial attack of percussion instruments like the snare drum was rendered really well, without rounding or softening of lesser designs.

The highs also sounded a bit cleaner when played loud as compared to the 9.5.  The bass is much more extended than the 9.5's, yet sounded more controlled.  I feel there was quite a bit of warmth of the mid- to upper bass but it didn't seem as if it would boom easily in more difficult rooms.  The bass was particularly agile for a ported design.

The most surprising thing is that, for a four-driver, 3.5-way design, the driver integration is almost seemless.  Note that I said "almost"... I never heard a big speaker (except planars) that sounded entirely "one piece".
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Garp on Feb 24, 2005 at 03:37 PM
Just heard the 9.1. Surprise! Surprise! these speakers image very well.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimosabe on Feb 24, 2005 at 08:15 PM
Just heard the 9.6 last weekend.  The most noticeable difference from the 9.5 I heard (and liked) several weeks ago is the midrange.  The dome midrange is not there for nothing.  It gave the 9.6 a more effortless, transparent mid that seemed "faster" than the 9.5's.  Its midrange is nowhere close to an electrostatic (which some say it is), but it's THE best I heard under 20K.  Vocals sounded superb, and the initial attack of percussion instruments like the snare drum was rendered really well, without rounding or softening of lesser designs.

The highs also sounded a bit cleaner when played loud as compared to the 9.5.  The bass is much more extended than the 9.5's, yet sounded more controlled.  I feel there was quite a bit of warmth of the mid- to upper bass but it didn't seem as if it would boom easily in more difficult rooms.  The bass was particularly agile for a ported design.

The most surprising thing is that, for a four-driver, 3.5-way design, the driver integration is almost seemless.  Note that I said "almost"... I never heard a big speaker (except planars) that sounded entirely "one piece".

Nice review sir arnel... napa isip mo ako dun ha  ::) ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 24, 2005 at 08:22 PM
Nice review sir arnel... napa isip mo ako dun ha  ::) ;D

about the 9.6 or the planars? :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hans_adriane on Feb 24, 2005 at 09:52 PM
Nice review sir arnel... napa isip mo ako dun ha  ::) ;D

Kimosabe,

Masyado expensive yun isa better 9 series lang. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 24, 2005 at 09:56 PM
share ko lang...

while listening to some music, my wife stopped whatever she was doing to ask me if the speakers were broken in already. sounds very good according to her. (i don't know if she said that just to please me or to keep me from upgrading them because of the extra cost :-[ ) this is the first time ive heard her praise my gears w/o me asking her :)

and before her comment, i was really hearing some improvement :) im glad i didn't go wrong w/ the diamonds :) to think that i got this mainly because of the reviews :-[ how lucky can i get :)


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on Feb 24, 2005 at 10:19 PM
share ko lang...

while listening to some music, my wife stopped whatever she was doing to ask me if the speakers were broken in already. sounds very good according to her. (i don't know if she said that just to please me or to keep me from upgrading them because of the extra cost :-[ ) this is the first time ive heard her praise my gears w/o me asking her :)

and before her comment, i was really hearing some improvement :) im glad i didn't go wrong w/ the diamonds :) to think that i got this mainly because of the reviews :-[ how lucky can i get :)




haha must be reason no. 2. j/k  seriously, i also find them really good too for the price.  medyo mahirap lang i-drive but once you get over that, the rest is smooth playing. :) 

btw is anyone using the 9s with a rotel setup?  i tried it with the ra-02 and it didn't sound good.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 24, 2005 at 10:31 PM
haha must be reason no. 2. j/k  seriously, i also find them really good too for the price.  medyo mahirap lang i-drive but once you get over that, the rest is smooth playing. :) 

btw is anyone using the 9s with a rotel setup?  i tried it with the ra-02 and it didn't sound good.

nice one there :) my nad bee is more than enough for me. i've yet to go beyond 9 o'clock :) anyway, i remember one member here uses an 8.1 w/ a rotel. i forgot his name though.

--------------------------

si LETOR pala :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on Feb 25, 2005 at 12:31 PM
nice one there :) my nad bee is more than enough for me. i've yet to go beyond 9 o'clock :) anyway, i remember one member here uses an 8.1 w/ a rotel. i forgot his name though.

--------------------------

si LETOR pala :)

that's pretty good.  i might get another set pag nagsawa ako sa mission.(sold the 9.1s)  when we tried the 9.1 with the rotel, it sounded shrill and thin.  dunno why...was he satisfied with his setup?  8.1 is another line though.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: edboy7 on Feb 25, 2005 at 10:51 PM
Just heard the 9.6 last weekend.  The most noticeable difference from the 9.5 I heard (and liked) several weeks ago is the midrange.  The dome midrange is not there for nothing.  It gave the 9.6 a more effortless, transparent mid that seemed "faster" than the 9.5's.  Its midrange is nowhere close to an electrostatic (which some say it is), but it's THE best I heard under 20K.  Vocals sounded superb, and the initial attack of percussion instruments like the snare drum was rendered really well, without rounding or softening of lesser designs.

The highs also sounded a bit cleaner when played loud as compared to the 9.5.  The bass is much more extended than the 9.5's, yet sounded more controlled.  I feel there was quite a bit of warmth of the mid- to upper bass but it didn't seem as if it would boom easily in more difficult rooms.  The bass was particularly agile for a ported design.

The most surprising thing is that, for a four-driver, 3.5-way design, the driver integration is almost seemless.  Note that I said "almost"... I never heard a big speaker (except planars) that sounded entirely "one piece".
coooll :)....with wat amp/reciever did u hear it? thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 28, 2005 at 08:27 AM
that's pretty good.  i might get another set pag nagsawa ako sa mission.(sold the 9.1s)  when we tried the 9.1 with the rotel, it sounded shrill and thin.  dunno why...was he satisfied with his setup?  8.1 is another line though.

sir taggart, try this link.

http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=27201.msg412297#msg412297
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 28, 2005 at 10:54 AM
that's pretty good.  i might get another set pag nagsawa ako sa mission.(sold the 9.1s)  when we tried the 9.1 with the rotel, it sounded shrill and thin.  dunno why...was he satisfied with his setup?  8.1 is another line though.

By "shrill and thin" do you mean bright and not much bass?  I think I'm just lucky coz I've never heard the 9.1 sound like that... but please note that I think that a subwoofer is a must for the tiny 9.1... without the reinforcement, it is indeed thin.  :)

Are the smaller Rotels really that bright?  I heard the bigger ones (separates) and they sounded full... in fact, a bit reticent in the highs even with B&W Nautilus-series speakers.  But I wouldn't partner those P100K+ electronics with the Diamonds if practicality is a consideration.  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 28, 2005 at 11:20 AM
issue 13 of avguide is available for download. there's a review of the diamond 9.6 surround setup. and other gears too :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on Feb 28, 2005 at 12:23 PM
sir taggart, try this link.

http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=27201.msg412297#msg412297

thanks bumblebee!  yeah they seem to like it.  maybe it's bec. i biwired mine.  OT na but i think biwiring emphasizes the highs a lot more than single wired so when you have a balanced setup with single wire, biwiring might make it bright/sibilant.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on Feb 28, 2005 at 12:29 PM
By "shrill and thin" do you mean bright and not much bass?  I think I'm just lucky coz I've never heard the 9.1 sound like that... but please note that I think that a subwoofer is a must for the tiny 9.1... without the reinforcement, it is indeed thin.  :)

Are the smaller Rotels really that bright?  I heard the bigger ones (separates) and they sounded full... in fact, a bit reticent in the highs even with B&W Nautilus-series speakers.  But I wouldn't partner those P100K+ electronics with the Diamonds if practicality is a consideration.  :D


yes it was really a pain to my ears(really bright) and lost a lot of midrange.  the plus side is that the details came out but that's about it.  it's either the source(c542), biwiring or the amp itself coz i swapped back the pioneer and the funny thing is it's just right.  too bad i couldn't experiment anymore with the speakers sold.  haha i agree on the P100k partnership. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: backdraft on Feb 28, 2005 at 01:10 PM
issue 13 of avguide is available for download. there's a review of the diamond 9.6 surround setup. and other gears too :)

sir pa post naman ng link  ;D

thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 28, 2005 at 01:13 PM
sir pa post naman ng link  ;D

thanks

http://www.avguide.com/AVG_monthly/issue13_hispeed.pdf
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: doorknob2k1 on Feb 28, 2005 at 04:11 PM
newbie here... be kind to me.   :)

i just came across this forum while googling for the 9.x series. i bought a marantz sr4400 a few weeks back.(electonics depot galleria)... and was looking at pairing it with the 9.4.  has anybody tried this combination? the sr4400 has been sitting on its box for weeks now waiting for a set of speakers to drive. i'm kinda tight on the budget... 10k - 12k lang kaya ko i-spend for now.

my options are:
1.  yamaha nsp-236... for instant gratification.  ::)
2.  or get a pair of 9.4 and wait eternally for the next bonuses to complete a 6.1 setup  :-\

hoping to hear from you guys. thanks!

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 28, 2005 at 04:15 PM
newbie here... be kind to me.   :)

i just came across this forum while googling for the 9.x series. i bought a marantz sr4400 a few weeks back.(electonics depot galleria)... and was looking at pairing it with the 9.4.  has anybody tried this combination? the sr4400 has been sitting on its box for weeks now waiting for a set of speakers to drive. i'm kinda tight on the budget... 10k - 12k lang kaya ko i-spend for now.

my options are:
1.  yamaha nsp-236... for instant gratification.  ::)
2.  or get a pair of 9.4 and wait eternally for the next bonuses to complete a 6.1 setup  :-\

hoping to hear from you guys. thanks!



electronics depot carries some diamonds too. why not go there and audition the 9.4s? ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: doorknob2k1 on Feb 28, 2005 at 04:44 PM
hi there bumblebee! i did ask "sonny" to connect a pair of 8.3s and then the 9.4s to the marantz before packing it in the box. i like the 9.4 over the 8.3... crispier highs. but that's just in the shop... and only for a few tracks... (brought my dianna krall dvd with me). i wonder how it would sound in a typical living room/bedroom setting. ::)

would i be wasting my money on the yamaha nsp-236? (P10,500 @ listening room)  :-\
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: edboy7 on Feb 28, 2005 at 04:56 PM
hello doorknob, same  dilemma :-\ im also having a hard time choosing between the  9.6 and  mordaunt 914's, i also have a marantz AVR :)...heard the 914's @ 5th ave....seems perfect to me! :) but when the 9.6 came out na...nabulabog ako ??? but still have to hear them with my marantz  ::)...and cybermms is giving me a very good deal on it ;D free delivery pa(cavite area only sori po meron pang plugging)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 28, 2005 at 06:11 PM
hi there bumblebee! i did ask "sonny" to connect a pair of 8.3s and then the 9.4s to the marantz before packing it in the box. i like the 9.4 over the 8.3... crispier highs. but that's just in the shop... and only for a few tracks... (brought my dianna krall dvd with me). i wonder how it would sound in a typical living room/bedroom setting. ::)

would i be wasting my money on the yamaha nsp-236? (P10,500 @ listening room)  :-\

i don't know about the yamaha. but i do know that you wouldn't be wasting moolah on the 9.4 ;) mas madaling ibenta yan if ever magsawa ka ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hans_adriane on Mar 01, 2005 at 03:23 AM
hello doorknob, same  dilemma :-\ im also having a hard time choosing between the  9.6 and  mordaunt 914's, i also have a marantz AVR :)...heard the 914's @ 5th ave....seems perfect to me! :) but when the 9.6 came out na...nabulabog ako ??? but still have to hear them with my marantz  ::)...and cybermms is giving me a very good deal on it ;D free delivery pa(cavite area only sori po meron pang plugging)

Bro just want to remind you Marantz and Wharf are both on the warm side kaya better audition with your favorite cd to make sure. :)

Happy auditioning
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: backdraft on Mar 01, 2005 at 05:10 AM
http://www.avguide.com/AVG_monthly/issue13_hispeed.pdf

salamas sir... ayy salamat pala  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Mar 01, 2005 at 03:18 PM
Hey guys, how much is the SW250 subwoofer locally?  thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Mar 01, 2005 at 03:24 PM
SW250 ~20k
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Mar 02, 2005 at 11:10 AM
Seems that the AVGuide review is too good to be true... not to say that Diamond 9 series is no good, in fact it is the best value speakers I know to date.  But, if you remember in the first review, they mentioned that the sound comes close to an electrostatic in terms of speed.  Yes, I agree that the midrange dome is very capable of delivering transients that makes a snare's initial attack really palpable, but it is nowhere close to an electrostatic's capability to "snap".  And no one expects it to be the case, given the physics involved and the cost difference.  :)

And to say that it is the best surround system under $4K they've heard, can be tricky.  I assume the reviewer was being honest and he hasn't heard a Magnepan surround system + REL subwoofer, which goes under $3K. And since he's talking about P150,000+, that amount of money can buy much better speakers.  Buti na lang, much cheaper dito ang Wharfedale, but that's out of the question. :)

Is AVGuide really credible? It seems that they always rave about the equipment that they review.  So, for those who heard the Diamond 9.6 and the rest of the series, do you guys agree with the AVGuide review?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: doorknob2k1 on Mar 02, 2005 at 11:29 AM
Bro just want to remind you Marantz and Wharf are both on the warm side kaya better audition with your favorite cd to make sure. :)

Happy auditioning

hi! when you say "warm"... meaning?... parang muffled ang highs? ???  pardon my ignorance.  :)   
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 02, 2005 at 11:39 AM
Seems that the AVGuide review is too good to be true... not to say that Diamond 9 series is no good, in fact it is the best value speakers I know to date.  But, if you remember in the first review, they mentioned that the sound comes close to an electrostatic in terms of speed.  Yes, I agree that the midrange dome is very capable of delivering transients that makes a snare's initial attack really palpable, but it is nowhere close to an electrostatic's capability to "snap".  And no one expects it to be the case, given the physics involved and the cost difference.  :)

And to say that it is the best surround system under $4K they've heard, can be tricky.  I assume the reviewer was being honest and he hasn't heard a Magnepan surround system + REL subwoofer, which goes under $3K. And since he's talking about P150,000+, that amount of money can buy much better speakers.  Buti na lang, much cheaper dito ang Wharfedale, but that's out of the question. :)

Is AVGuide really credible? It seems that they always rave about the equipment that they review.  So, for those who heard the Diamond 9.6 and the rest of the series, do you guys agree with the AVGuide review?


the review was very subjective. the reviewer liked what he heard and that's just about it. as for agreeing w/ the review, i guess most newbies will. i have the diamond 9.1s because of the what hifi? rave. and i found them good enough for me, being a newbie. i may look for better speakers if ever (and hopefully) my listening tastes mature.

also, avguide is a US publication, isn't it? the reviewer may have compared the diamonds w/ the likes of jbl, polk, bose, klipsch, etc. in the same price range.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 02, 2005 at 11:44 AM
hi! when you say "warm"... meaning?... parang muffled ang highs? ???  pardon my ignorance.  :)   

warm. mellow. malambing ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: doorknob2k1 on Mar 02, 2005 at 01:19 PM
warm. mellow. malambing ;)

as opposed to?... bright... meaning?...

damn! i'm such a newbie! meron bang glossary dito sa pinoydvd?   ;)

thanks for your kind responses, btw.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 02, 2005 at 01:23 PM
as opposed to?... bright... meaning?...

d**n! i'm such a newbie! meron bang glossary dito sa pinoydvd?   ;)

thanks for your kind responses, btw.  :)

try this link :)

http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=33446.0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Mar 02, 2005 at 01:42 PM
i may look for better speakers if ever (and hopefully) my listening tastes mature.
That's the bad (or good, depending on perspective) thing about this hobby... as time passes by, you learn to spot more differences in sound, which increases your expectations on gear.  Your higher expectations are usually then only met by more expensive gear... and the vicious cycle goes on and on... :)

Btw, I also admit to raving about the Diamond 9's in this thread.  But hey I am not a professional reviewer, so I take it that nobody would just take my word for it and buy the stuff.  On the other hand, some newbies buy stuff based on professional reviews... I'm not saying you do, but there are some who do.  I find it difficult to spot which reviews tell the truth and which ones are "infomercials" in disguise... but I usually trust reviews that tell the bad side of things, admitting that no speaker is perfect, even those $100K+ flagships are flawed in some way or the other.  A review that tells these flaws are more interesting for me... at least I know if these flaws would be acceptable to me.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: doorknob2k1 on Mar 02, 2005 at 01:44 PM
try this link :)

http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=33446.0

whoa! didn't know there were that too many terms used in describing a speaker's sound.  :o  

anyway, i own a Sony FH-414 (circa 1989) ... are u familiar with these miniHiFi's? as a point of comparison... what term best describes the sound of its speakers?

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 02, 2005 at 02:04 PM

...
On the other hand, some newbies buy stuff based on professional reviews... I'm not saying you do, but there are some who do.
...


i did just that ;) i bought my gears w/o auditioning ;D i didn't know what i was looking for at that time. then i discovered i prefer the warm, the mellow, the lush, the sweet. and my gears provided me w/ those ;D


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: obey on Mar 02, 2005 at 02:38 PM
whoa! didn't know there were that too many terms used in describing a speaker's sound.  :o  

anyway, i own a Sony FH-414 (circa 1989) ... are u familiar with these miniHiFi's? as a point of comparison... what term best describes the sound of its speakers?



I used to own a Sony FH-515 naman during my highschool days.  Eto yung may SAT (Super Acoustic Turbo) switch di ba?  Di ko na nagamit yung amp section nung sa akin dahil matagal nang sira.  Pero nung ayos pa ito, naalala ko na mas nasa warm side and bilog ang bass reproduction ng component na ito.  Mas maganda pa nga ang tunog niya sa present minicomponent ng family ko dito sa bahay eh (Pioneer).  Eventually, ginamit ko as surrounds yung speakers nung sony.  After a year, pinalitan ko rin siya ng wharf 8.1.   
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: doorknob2k1 on Mar 02, 2005 at 02:57 PM
I used to own a Sony FH-515 naman during my highschool days.  Eto yung may SAT (Super Acoustic Turbo) switch di ba?  Di ko na nagamit yung amp section nung sa akin dahil matagal nang sira.  Pero nung ayos pa ito, naalala ko na mas nasa warm side and bilog ang bass reproduction ng component na ito.  Mas maganda pa nga ang tunog niya sa present minicomponent ng family ko dito sa bahay eh (Pioneer).  Eventually, ginamit ko as surrounds yung speakers nung sony.  After a year, pinalitan ko rin siya ng wharf 8.1.   

yep! my 414 has a SAT button also. pero 2 way lang yung speakers... the amp section also is lost somwhere in our bodega. ;D i use the speakers now with a Pioneer A-207 where i currently connect my Pioneer DV-525. (ung Marantz SR4400 ko nasa box pa din  ???). waiting for a diamond9.  ;D

now i have another question... why does the sony speakers sound better (in my opinion) when driven by the Pioneer A-207 (loudness:ON / treble:FULL + / bass:0) versus the Marantz SR4400 in stereo mode? (bass: +6db / treble: +6db)?... or is it just a matter of listening taste?  ???

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: obey on Mar 02, 2005 at 06:42 PM
Ano ba yung Pioneer A-207? Integrated Amp ba yon?  Kung oo, baka kaya mas maganda ang tunog kesa sa marantz mo na a/v receiver.  Based sa post mo mukhang mas may body ang tunog ng Pioneer dahil nasa zero lang ang setting mo sa bass.  Anyway,  di ba sumasakit ang tenga mo dahil naka full ang treble setting mo? :D   Sabagay kanya kanyang taste nga yan sa music.  Kung rock ang trip mo, malamang mas gusto mo talaga na taasan ng konti ang treble settings mo.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: doorknob2k1 on Mar 03, 2005 at 10:38 AM
yup! its an integrated amp. an older version of the A-209. (http://www.pioneer.com.sg/storefront/brochure/04-05General_PMA_Pg12-19.pdf) as for the treble setting... okay lang naman for my taste. di naman sya yung tipong "dumudura ang tunog"  ;D  i like to hear the hi-hats and crashes lalo na sa live recordings.  ;)

anyway, thanks for your replys. i hope di magalit ang moderators... medyo off-topic na to e.  ;D

sana magkapera na ako para makabili na ako ng diamond.  ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bebot santos on Mar 03, 2005 at 12:27 PM
Disclaimer, hehehe just post on this thread before and stated that although 9.2 has a good bass, it lacks for a high's when auditioned it at Sound DImension, but luckily i just bought one, paired it with Pionner D511s and a Panasonic dvd player, I played Enya Cd, and it sound great,!!! Siguro namimili lng ng mga rcvr hehehe, just my experience!!!! Cheers sa mga Wharfs!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Mar 03, 2005 at 12:53 PM
Disclaimer, hehehe just post on this thread before and stated that although 9.2 has a good bass, it lacks for a high's when auditioned it at Sound DImension, but luckily i just bought one, paired it with Pionner D511s and a Panasonic dvd player, I played Enya Cd, and it sound great,!!! Siguro namimili lng ng mga rcvr hehehe, just my experience!!!! Cheers sa mga Wharfs!!!!!!!

You heard what I have heard - Pioneer can make the wharf sounds great. We enjoyed the wharf with the Pio 509.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Mar 06, 2005 at 11:53 PM
review for diamond 9 series: http://www.avguide.com/AVG_monthly/issue13_part2.pdf
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 07, 2005 at 02:21 PM
mga sir, i'm currently using a yamaha rx-v650 to drive diamond 9.4 fronts and wh-3 center/surrounds. i plan to add another pair of diamonds as side surrounds then relegate the wh-3 surrounds to the rear.

which diamond 9 speaker should i use as side surrounds in a 15 X 15 ft room with low ceiling?

a.) 9.0
b.) 9.1
c.) 9.sr

i'm thinking perhaps the 9.1 should do the job. husto na kaya yung 9.0? or yung 9.sr (availble na ba to dito?) thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: doorknob2k1 on Mar 07, 2005 at 04:49 PM
d00dZ! check out spectra in park square 1... (recommended ng pdvd members!)... they have the diamond 9 series there... i was there this morning... listened to the 9.2 & 9.4... mabait ung nag assist sa akin dun... leslie ata ung name. hoping to bring home a diamond soon!  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Mar 07, 2005 at 07:34 PM
mga sir, i'm currently using a yamaha rx-v650 to drive diamond 9.4 fronts and wh-3 center/surrounds. i plan to add another pair of diamonds as side surrounds then relegate the wh-3 surrounds to the rear.

which diamond 9 speaker should i use as side surrounds in a 15 X 15 ft room with low ceiling?

a.) 9.0
b.) 9.1
c.) 9.sr

i'm thinking perhaps the 9.1 should do the job. husto na kaya yung 9.0? or yung 9.sr (availble na ba to dito?) thanks.

First of all, may I suggest that you replace your center first? (Did I understand it correctly, you are also using WH-3 for center?)  The 9CM is perfect for P6000+ but the 9CS is fine and is also much cheaper at P4500.

About your side surrounds, if you have vacant walls on both sides, I'd suggest the 9SR which is wall-mountable.  It is available locally, and got mine for less than P4000.  It is best when it is raised a bit from your ear level, just like in the cinema... something you can't do very easily with the standmounted options (9.0 or 9.1).  And don't worry, for surround duty, the 9SR can play really loud!!!

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 08, 2005 at 10:59 AM
d00dZ! check out spectra in park square 1... (recommended ng pdvd members!)... they have the diamond 9 series there... i was there this morning... listened to the 9.2 & 9.4... mabait ung nag assist sa akin dun... wesley ata ung name. hoping to bring home a diamond soon!  :)

w/c one? the 9.2 or 9.4? :)

btw, gurus, ask ko lang...

i may get a pair of speaker stands soon. costs 3800 at the most. do you think it would be better to get a 9.4 instead (implies letting go of the 9.1)? the wife likes the beech pair ;D

many thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 08, 2005 at 11:10 AM
d00dZ! check out spectra in park square 1... (recommended ng pdvd members!)... they have the diamond 9 series there... i was there this morning... listened to the 9.2 & 9.4... mabait ung nag assist sa akin dun... wesley ata ung name. hoping to bring home a diamond soon!  :)

sir doorknob2k1, that's where i actually bought my other wharfedales. your right, mabait nga sila dun. kinaka-chums ko naman dun si jose. go with your plans to bring home a diamond, best bang for the buck speakers talaga!

First of all, may I suggest that you replace your center first? (Did I understand it correctly, you are also using WH-3 for center?) The 9CM is perfect for P6000+ but the 9CS is fine and is also much cheaper at P4500.

About your side surrounds, if you have vacant walls on both sides, I'd suggest the 9SR which is wall-mountable. It is available locally, and got mine for less than P4000. It is best when it is raised a bit from your ear level, just like in the cinema... something you can't do very easily with the standmounted options (9.0 or 9.1). And don't worry, for surround duty, the 9SR can play really loud!!!



sir Arnel Enero, you're right, i'm currently using the wh-3 center for my front center. highly not recommended  :P original plan ko kasi gawin siya rear surround ultimately in a 6.1 system, but since i ended up buying a 7.1 receiver, i may have to dispose of it eventually. siguro i'll be getting the 9.cm. worth it ba yung P1.5++k difference over the 9.cs?

my side surrounds are actually for wall mounting, and the 9.sr seems to be the right speakers for that job. kaso lang sabi sa manual 10-60 watts lang power handling nito. di ba to problem with a 95 w/ch receiver?

thanks for the inputs!  O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Mar 08, 2005 at 05:58 PM
siguro i'll be getting the 9.cm. worth it ba yung P1.5++k difference over the 9.cs?
Very much worth it.  Why? Several reasons:
1.  The dedicated dome midrange makes the mids "cleaner".  But you'll probably notice this only when you crank up the volume, in which case the 9CM keeps composure better than the 9CS, especially on explosive movie tracks, or very dense soundtracks.
2.  The bigger drivers and bigger box of the 9CM mean that it can go much louder than the 9CS.
3.  The 9CM has a sealed-box design (no port).  This means easier placement than the ported 9CS, coz of the less tendency to boom on the midbass.

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my side surrounds are actually for wall mounting, and the 9.sr seems to be the right speakers for that job. kaso lang sabi sa manual 10-60 watts lang power handling nito. di ba to problem with a 95 w/ch receiver?
Not a problem!  It is bass that sucks power.  But for surround speakers, you'd normally set the crossover frequency to 80Hz, meaning there's no low bass coming from the 9SR.  Given this, you won't even need 95 watts at the back to cope with the hefty power that your main fronts (which have low bass) would demand.  Siguro the 9SR would "eat" about 50 watts on average LOUD soundtracks, while your fronts may demand the full 95 watts or more.  Mas delikado pa nga kung underpowered yung receiver mo... not enough power is what fries speakers, because of "clipping".
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hans_adriane on Mar 09, 2005 at 02:18 AM
d00dZ! check out spectra in park square 1... (recommended ng pdvd members!)... they have the diamond 9 series there... i was there this morning... listened to the 9.2 & 9.4... mabait ung nag assist sa akin dun... leslie ata ung name. hoping to bring home a diamond soon!  :)

Bro Leslie is the owner's son you can also talk to JIm and jose. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hans_adriane on Mar 09, 2005 at 02:22 AM
w/c one? the 9.2 or 9.4? :)

btw, gurus, ask ko lang...

i may get a pair of speaker stands soon. costs 3800 at the most. do you think it would be better to get a 9.4 instead (implies letting go of the 9.1)? the wife likes the beech pair ;D

many thanks.

Bro san mo gamitin HT o Audio..

kung Audio will go for the 9.2 bookshelf provide good imaging, less boxiness, means better soundstage and depth but syempre you need a stable stand to go with it.
for HT syempre 9.4 naman for handling those movie soundtrack with control ika nga eh all rounder. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 09, 2005 at 02:29 AM
mga sir, i'm currently using a yamaha rx-v650 to drive diamond 9.4 fronts and wh-3 center/surrounds. i plan to add another pair of diamonds as side surrounds then relegate the wh-3 surrounds to the rear.

which diamond 9 speaker should i use as side surrounds in a 15 X 15 ft room with low ceiling?

a.) 9.0
b.) 9.1
c.) 9.sr

i'm thinking perhaps the 9.1 should do the job. husto na kaya yung 9.0? or yung 9.sr (availble na ba to dito?) thanks.

9sr will provide you better result due to its design for surround talaga. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 09, 2005 at 09:04 AM
Bro san mo gamitin HT o Audio..

kung Audio will go for the 9.2 bookshelf provide good imaging, less boxiness, means better soundstage and depth but syempre you need a stable stand to go with it.
for HT syempre 9.4 naman for handling those movie soundtrack with control ika nga eh all rounder. ;D

thanks, sir hans, for the advice :) im into audio, my wife's into interior design :-\ but im glad that she's starting to appreciate this hobby of mine ;D kinukulit na nga ako e. kelan ko raw papalitan yung 9.1s >:D nakapatong lang kc sa tv rack. naaalog yung mga picture frames nya ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 09, 2005 at 09:17 AM
Very much worth it.  Why? Several reasons:
1.  The dedicated dome midrange makes the mids "cleaner".  But you'll probably notice this only when you crank up the volume, in which case the 9CM keeps composure better than the 9CS, especially on explosive movie tracks, or very dense soundtracks.
2.  The bigger drivers and bigger box of the 9CM mean that it can go much louder than the 9CS.
3.  The 9CM has a sealed-box design (no port).  This means easier placement than the ported 9CS, coz of the less tendency to boom on the midbass.

dropped by spectra yesterday upang idaing ang aking kuro-kuro kay jose. since i got my 9.4s from him, i discussed with him the prospect of getting either the 9.cs and 9.cm. in his opinion, the 9.cm may be overkill as a match for my 9.4s. in terms of size, kasing laki na daw siya ng 9.2 na nakahiga  :P so he suggests that the 9.cs may be just right for my system.

i have read somewhere though that it is estimated that about 90% of a movie soundtrack comes from the center. i see the advantages you listed above sir Arnel Enero and it got me thinking. siguro depende na lang sa budget come buying time  ;)

Not a problem!  It is bass that sucks power.  But for surround speakers, you'd normally set the crossover frequency to 80Hz, meaning there's no low bass coming from the 9SR.  Given this, you won't even need 95 watts at the back to cope with the hefty power that your main fronts (which have low bass) would demand.  Siguro the 9SR would "eat" about 50 watts on average LOUD soundtracks, while your fronts may demand the full 95 watts or more.  Mas delikado pa nga kung underpowered yung receiver mo... not enough power is what fries speakers, because of "clipping".

9sr will provide you better result due to its design for surround talaga. ;D

sabi ng YPAO 80hz nga daw xover ko, so I would have to trust it.  ;D since di naman pala problem yung wattage thing, made up na isip ko to get these cute, little, wall-mountable dedicated surrounds. thanks for the replies!  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 09, 2005 at 09:21 AM
btw, any suggestions where i can get/pasadya speaker stands for the 9.cs?  ??? because of space and design constraints, i can't place my center directly above or below my tv, so lutang siya sa harap. thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 09, 2005 at 09:33 AM
d00dZ,

me beech 9.4 ba na available? anyway, how's your 9.4? :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: zakkaz on Mar 09, 2005 at 11:29 AM
d00dZ,

me beech 9.4 ba na available? anyway, how's your 9.4? :)
i think mern ang spectra
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hans_adriane on Mar 09, 2005 at 03:27 PM
thanks, sir hans, for the advice :) im into audio, my wife's into interior design :-\ but im glad that she's starting to appreciate this hobby of mine ;D kinukulit na nga ako e. kelan ko raw papalitan yung 9.1s >:D nakapatong lang kc sa tv rack. naaalog yung mga picture frames nya ;D


Nice to hear that Congrats..  :) :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 09, 2005 at 03:43 PM
d00dZ,

me beech 9.4 ba na available? anyway, how's your 9.4? :)

can't recall seeing a beech 9.4 sa showroom ng spectra. black na 9.4 meron. beech na 9.6 meron 17k :P impressive looking things those 9.6s are.  :o

you can always call ahead naman a day before you want to pick up your item para ma-order nila from the supplier.

my 9.4s are just about right for my needs. minsan kala ko naka-pro-logic IIx ako, yung pala naka stereo lang! the highs are cripylicious. mids i feel kinda bitin kasi wala nga dedicated mid range driver to, but it may also be the yamaha's "natural sound" thingamajiggy. a sub is still a must though for real kick.

all in all i'm very satisfied. pagdating ng moolah papalitan ko na yung wh-3 for an all-out diamond 9 experience  O0

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 11, 2005 at 01:18 AM
Guys,

Have anyone compare the Diamond 8 and 9?? had a chance and notice sweeter yun mids ng 9. :) :) IMHO.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: redstarrising on Mar 11, 2005 at 07:27 AM
Guys,

Just curious have anyone experienced those old england made Diamond 3 and 4.
How is performance? Baka meron dyan nag o-own pa share naman.

Thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: turismo1997 on Mar 11, 2005 at 09:16 AM
mga bro,

balak ko kasi bumili ng rx-v1500... ano kayang magandang setup na wharfdale diamond 9 speakers para dito..


thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: turismo1997 on Mar 11, 2005 at 09:25 AM
BTW, yung prices ba na naka post sa unang page eh pang pairs na. Thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Mar 11, 2005 at 01:54 PM
Guys,

Have anyone compare the Diamond 8 and 9?? had a chance and notice sweeter yun mids ng 9. :) :) IMHO.

Much, much sweeter, I agree.  Especially on the 9.6 and 9CM, the mid is also more pronounced (has more presence).  This makes female vocals, especially, much more soulful and expressive.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Mar 11, 2005 at 01:55 PM
BTW, yung prices ba na naka post sa unang page eh pang pairs na. Thanks

All prices quoted here are for the pair.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 13, 2005 at 09:01 PM
mga bro,

balak ko kasi bumili ng rx-v1500... ano kayang magandang setup na wharfdale diamond 9 speakers para dito..


thanks in advance.

since medyo flagship yang receiver mo, suggest ko na yung 9.6, 9.1, 9.cm and the sw250 :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Mar 14, 2005 at 05:52 AM
d00dZ,

me beech 9.4 ba na available? anyway, how's your 9.4? :)

meron bro sa spectra, got mine last friday,
inorder ko ng am, then pm meron agad...
btw, thanks to les of spectra, MABUHAY ANG SPECTRA, ANG BABAIT NG MGA SALES PERSON  ;) ;) :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 14, 2005 at 07:42 AM
meron bro sa spectra, got mine last friday,
inorder ko ng am, then pm meron agad...
btw, thanks to les of spectra, MABUHAY ANG SPECTRA, ANG BABAIT NG MGA SALES PERSON  ;) ;) :D

sir vhong, kumusta naman yung tunog?

nagkaron ka na rin ng rosewood :) congrats :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Mar 14, 2005 at 12:20 PM
sir vhong, kumusta naman yung tunog?

nagkaron ka na rin ng rosewood :) congrats :)
thanks.... sa totoo lang first time ko magkaroon ng flr stander na speaker, pero mas maganda talaga 9.4 kompara sa 9.1 ko, buong buo tunog nya, lalo na pasubok ko sa power amp ko stereo mode grabe napa wow ako, kahit break in period palang swabe magdeliver.  ;)
pero pag movie or stereo using my marantz 4400, medyo kapos sa bass, >:( cguro dahil bago pa, hintay lang cguro ng konting time....pero para sa akin okey na okey na ito.... ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 14, 2005 at 12:27 PM
sobrang nakakaen-ganyo yung review mo sir vhong >:D balak ko din sana yang 9.4. ok na kay misis kaso nakita nya yung ma b2 na black, mas gusto naman daw nya ngayon yun. gulo no? >:(

anyway, enjoy your new gears :) sana ako naman next ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Mar 14, 2005 at 12:38 PM
sobrang nakakaen-ganyo yung review mo sir vhong >:D balak ko din sana yang 9.4. ok na kay misis kaso nakita nya yung ma b2 na black, mas gusto naman daw nya ngayon yun. gulo no? >:(

anyway, enjoy your new gears :) sana ako naman next ;D

dapat 9.2 lang kukunin ko, pero wala akong makitang murang stand, so nauwi sa 9.4,
para sa akin parang 9.2 lang tunog ng b2, mas maganda tumunog silver series nila. para lang sa akin ha, kasi before nagkaroon din ako ng b2, pero hindi nagtagal sa akin. ;D
PERO IKAW KUNG SAAN KA MASAYA SUPORTAHAN KA NG MGA PDVD MEMBER. HEHEHE... >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 14, 2005 at 12:58 PM
dapat 9.2 lang kukunin ko, pero wala akong makitang murang stand, so nauwi sa 9.4,
para sa akin parang 9.2 lang tunog ng b2, mas maganda tumunog silver series nila. para lang sa akin ha, kasi before nagkaroon din ako ng b2, pero hindi nagtagal sa akin. ;D
PERO IKAW KUNG SAAN KA MASAYA SUPORTAHAN KA NG MGA PDVD MEMBER. HEHEHE... >:D

hey, hey...

maraming salamat sa comment mo about the b2 :) i will surely consider it :)

mahal nga ng stands no? >:(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 16, 2005 at 02:54 AM
hey, hey...

maraming salamat sa comment mo about the b2 :) i will surely consider it :)

mahal nga ng stands no? >:(

Bili na bro..tapos gaganda pa ng color available. :) :D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 16, 2005 at 03:30 AM
thanks.... sa totoo lang first time ko magkaroon ng flr stander na speaker, pero mas maganda talaga 9.4 kompara sa 9.1 ko, buong buo tunog nya, lalo na pasubok ko sa power amp ko stereo mode grabe napa wow ako, kahit break in period palang swabe magdeliver.  ;)
pero pag movie or stereo using my marantz 4400, medyo kapos sa bass, >:( cguro dahil bago pa, hintay lang cguro ng konting time....pero para sa akin okey na okey na ito.... ;)

Sir congrats 9.4 wowow.. ako din before sana 9.4 but got a good deal with my stand (1k ) so got 9.2 instead tapos my uncle saw and heard my simple setup bili din sya kaya 9.4 naman binili namin hehehhee difference of the two.. hmmm bass mas rounder sa 9.4 pero i like the mids of the bookshelf.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Mar 16, 2005 at 05:52 AM
Sir congrats 9.4 wowow.. ako din before sana 9.4 but got a good deal with my stand (1k ) so got 9.2 instead tapos my uncle saw and heard my simple setup bili din sya kaya 9.4 naman binili namin hehehhee difference of the two.. hmmm bass mas rounder sa 9.4 pero i like the mids of the bookshelf. :)

thanks sir, idol nga kita eh,  :D dahil sa review mo sa 9.2, kaya bili din ako, kaya lang wala akong makita talagang murang stand so 9.4 kinuha ko, pero rosewood ;) HINDI BA MATAGAL NATIN HININTAY KULAY NA YAN? HEHEHE.... sa wakas nakabili din ako :D CONGRATS SA MGA OWNER NG DIAMOND 9 SERIES :D ;) :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 16, 2005 at 09:18 AM
nagpasikat kagabi si 9.1 :D galing ng delivery kay julia fordham and enya :) nakatunog yata na papalitan na sya hehehe nadurog puso ko kaya promise ko sa kanya, ibibili ko sya ng stands ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 16, 2005 at 09:46 AM
nagpasikat kagabi si 9.1 :D galing ng delivery kay julia fordham and enya :) nakatunog yata na papalitan na sya hehehe nadurog puso ko kaya promise ko sa kanya, ibibili ko sya ng stands ;D

Pre iiba pa sound nya with a good stand.. contact punk_kid alam ko meron sya cheap stand na ok din same as mine.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 16, 2005 at 09:48 AM
thanks sir, idol nga kita eh,  :D dahil sa review mo sa 9.2, kaya bili din ako, kaya lang wala akong makita talagang murang stand so 9.4 kinuha ko, pero rosewood ;) HINDI BA MATAGAL NATIN HININTAY KULAY NA YAN? HEHEHE.... sa wakas nakabili din ako :D CONGRATS SA MGA OWNER NG DIAMOND 9 SERIES :D ;) :)

Idol naku po.. pero OO tagal ng rosewood... di bale black hehehehe si J_albert naka 9.2 rosewood ata. ;D

Akin paired with a Surplus integrated with DAC wowow galing talaga!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 16, 2005 at 11:17 AM
Pre iiba pa sound nya with a good stand.. contact punk_kid alam ko meron sya cheap stand na ok din same as mine.

as always, thanks for the tip, sir hans :) will consider once magka-extra cash :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Mar 16, 2005 at 12:19 PM
mine is lovan, dinagdagan ko nag ng di kuwatro na pvc pipe, tapos pinuno ko cemento, yun gumanda lalo tunog ng 9.1 ko. lovan stand ko ngayon may bigat na 12 kilos each, hehehe... so kahit anong lakas ng tugtog walang vibrate.. :D
subukan nyo rin, murang stand mapapaganda nyo.... tip lang po ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: garee on Mar 16, 2005 at 03:01 PM
mine is lovan, dinagdagan ko nag ng di kuwatro na pvc pipe, tapos pinuno ko cemento, yun gumanda lalo tunog ng 9.1 ko. lovan stand ko ngayon may bigat na 12 kilos each, hehehe... so kahit anong lakas ng tugtog walang vibrate.. :D
subukan nyo rin, murang stand mapapaganda nyo.... tip lang po ;)

kindly share some pictures of the modified stands. thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Mar 16, 2005 at 04:05 PM
Koya Hans,

not for sale yung stand ko hehehe malay mo biglang kong patungan ng tooot  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Mar 16, 2005 at 04:08 PM
Koya Hans,

not for sale yung stand ko hehehe malay mo bigla kong gamitin balang araw  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: masterjericho on Mar 16, 2005 at 10:29 PM


Wharfedale site has a new look

click and see : http://wharfedale.co.uk

anyways,

what will you advice, an all diamond set up (FR FL C RR RL RC) or a diamond fronts w/ wh-3 for rears?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 17, 2005 at 03:42 AM
mine is lovan, dinagdagan ko nag ng di kuwatro na pvc pipe, tapos pinuno ko cemento, yun gumanda lalo tunog ng 9.1 ko. lovan stand ko ngayon may bigat na 12 kilos each, hehehe... so kahit anong lakas ng tugtog walang vibrate.. :D
subukan nyo rin, murang stand mapapaganda nyo.... tip lang po ;)

Uy ayos yan sir.. mas steady mas less vibration and less resonance you'll hear result is clearer and cleaner sound. :) ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 17, 2005 at 03:43 AM
Koya Hans,

not for sale yung stand ko hehehe malay mo biglang kong patungan ng tooot  >:D

Opss sorry... hmmm ano yan bilhin mo ha?? ;D ;D :o :o
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 17, 2005 at 08:23 AM

Wharfedale site has a new look

click and see : http://wharfedale.co.uk

anyways,

what will you advice, an all diamond set up (FR FL C RR RL RC) or a diamond fronts w/ wh-3 for rears?

all diamond syempre ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 17, 2005 at 11:31 AM

Wharfedale site has a new look

click and see : http://wharfedale.co.uk

anyways,

what will you advice, an all diamond set up (FR FL C RR RL RC) or a diamond fronts w/ wh-3 for rears?

I'm actually going for an all diamond set up, from having wh-3 center and rears! hehe  ;D

Just in case you're going for option two, I'm selling my wh-3 now

http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=35515.0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Mar 17, 2005 at 12:10 PM
I'm actually going for an all diamond set up, from having wh-3 center and rears! hehe ;D

Just in case you're going for option two, I'm selling my wh-3 now

http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=35515.0


doodz ano ba itsura ng wh-3? hindi pa kasi ako nakakita eh, tanong ko spectra pero never pa daw cla nagkaroon, and hindi din nila alam. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Mar 17, 2005 at 12:13 PM
kindly share some pictures of the modified stands. thanks.

sorry bro, mahirap lang ako, wala ako digicam eh....  :D
kung malapit ka sa amin pwede mo pasyalan, BACOOR CAVITE LANG NAMAN... HEHEHE... hayaan mo pag uwi mo may padala  ako sa iyong talaba....  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 17, 2005 at 12:47 PM
doodz ano ba itsura ng wh-3? hindi pa kasi ako nakakita eh, tanong ko spectra pero never pa daw cla nagkaroon, and hindi din nila alam. ;D

vhongbiker, baka nahilo lang yung natanungan mo e sa kanila ako bumili! I modified my post sa buy&sell to include pics, or you can check out sa new look wharfedale website

http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=35515.0

http://wharfedale.co.uk

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: garee on Mar 17, 2005 at 01:20 PM

Wharfedale site has a new look

click and see : http://wharfedale.co.uk

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Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 17, 2005 at 01:22 PM
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use google. search 'wharfedale'.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: odyo on Mar 17, 2005 at 03:44 PM
use this
http://www.wharfedale.co.uk

wildcards redirection is probably not enabled  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Mar 18, 2005 at 07:37 AM
vhongbiker, baka nahilo lang yung natanungan mo e sa kanila ako bumili! I modified my post sa buy&sell to include pics, or you can check out sa new look wharfedale website

http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=35515.0

http://wharfedale.co.uk



bro ok naman wh3 ah! ganda ng pix and specs nya, hope ganun din ang tunog.  ??? btw. plastic ba enclosure ng rear?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 18, 2005 at 09:14 AM
bro ok naman wh3 ah! ganda ng pix and specs nya, hope ganun din ang tunog. ??? btw. plastic ba enclosure ng rear?

sadly, plastic-ish nga yung enclosure ng rear. pero yung center i think wood yata. labo nga kung bakit di consistent yung finish kung uusisain.  ???

as for sound, the surrounds do what they're supposed to. dispersion is very wide. yung center naman, since it has smaller drivers than my other speakers, it sounds compartively thinner sa bass. the horn type tweeters for both sound a little sibilant to me.

ibang-iba kasi aesthetics ng wh-3 sa diamond 9, so visually they don't jive as much as i would've wanted to. kaya nga bumili na rin ako ng diamond 9.sr for side surrounds kahapon sa spectra.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 18, 2005 at 09:24 AM
sadly, plastic-ish nga yung enclosure ng rear. pero yung center i think wood yata. labo nga kung bakit di consistent yung finish kung uusisain.  ???

as for sound, the surrounds do what they're supposed to. dispersion is very wide. yung center naman, since it has smaller drivers than my other speakers, it sounds compartively thinner sa bass. the horn type tweeters for both sound a little sibilant to me.

ibang-iba kasi aesthetics ng wh-3 sa diamond 9, so visually they don't jive as much as i would've wanted to. kaya nga bumili na rin ako ng diamond 9.sr for side surrounds kahapon sa spectra.  ;D

wow d00dZ, center na lang kulang ah :) congrats :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Mar 18, 2005 at 09:28 AM
sadly, plastic-ish nga yung enclosure ng rear. pero yung center i think wood yata. labo nga kung bakit di consistent yung finish kung uusisain. ???

as for sound, the surrounds do what they're supposed to. dispersion is very wide. yung center naman, since it has smaller drivers than my other speakers, it sounds compartively thinner sa bass. the horn type tweeters for both sound a little sibilant to me.

ibang-iba kasi aesthetics ng wh-3 sa diamond 9, so visually they don't jive as much as i would've wanted to. kaya nga bumili na rin ako ng diamond 9.sr for side surrounds kahapon sa spectra. ;D

congrats bro. ;)
how much na ngaun diamond sr? ayaw mo ba ng 9.1? ok din ito for surround, may nakapost sa buy and sell section, 4k lang yata,  sana un nalang kinuha mo. >:(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 18, 2005 at 09:31 AM
congrats bro. ;)
how much na ngaun diamond sr? ayaw mo ba ng 9.1? ok din ito for surround, may nakapost sa buy and sell section, 4k lang yata,  sana un nalang kinuha mo. >:(


i believe the sale was withdrawn. sayang nga e. sobrang sulit sana nun :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Mar 18, 2005 at 09:34 AM
i believe the sale was withdrawn. sayang nga e. sobrang sulit sana nun :)

sobrang sulit bro, less 1.5k yun, kasi brandnew is 5.5k,
akin 9.1 din gamit ko for surround at sobrang happy ako sa result.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 18, 2005 at 10:23 AM
congrats bro. ;)
how much na ngaun diamond sr? ayaw mo ba ng 9.1? ok din ito for surround, may nakapost sa buy and sell section, 4k lang yata,  sana un nalang kinuha mo. >:(


P3,800 pa rin. kino-consider ko nga rin dati yung 9.1, kaso for wall mounting yung surrounds ko (na-drill na kasi e  :P) mahi-hirapan pa ako maghanap ng paraan masabit yung 9.1 kung sakasakali  ;D tsaka at 80hz crossover, di ko na rin siguro kailangan ng frequence range and power advantage ng 9.1 over the 9.sr

wow d00dZ, center na lang kulang ah :) congrats :)

thanks! oo nga e! bibili na rin sana ako ng 9.cs or 9.cm sa mar 22 para pagkatapos ng cutoff ng billing ng credit card  ;D kaso BPI lang sa spectra, e HSBC mastercard akin. aling dealer ba ino-honor to?  ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 18, 2005 at 10:32 AM
thanks! oo nga e! bibili na rin sana ako ng 9.cs or 9.cm sa mar 22 para pagkatapos ng cutoff ng billing ng credit card  ;D kaso BPI lang sa spectra, e HSBC mastercard akin. aling dealer ba ino-honor to?  ???

spectra honors any visa or mastercard credit card. i used citibank mastercard dati. pag bpi ba pede deferred?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: zakkaz on Mar 18, 2005 at 10:40 AM
spectra honors any visa or mastercard credit card. i used citibank mastercard dati. pag bpi ba pede deferred?
they accept any visa mastercard
ang alam ko bpi n standard lang ang may deferred sa kanila
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Mar 18, 2005 at 10:52 AM
P3,800 pa rin. kino-consider ko nga rin dati yung 9.1, kaso for wall mounting yung surrounds ko (na-drill na kasi e :P) mahi-hirapan pa ako maghanap ng paraan masabit yung 9.1 kung sakasakali ;D tsaka at 80hz crossover, di ko na rin siguro kailangan ng frequence range and power advantage ng 9.1 over the 9.sr

try cybermms, he offerd 0%, issue kalang post dated check, kaya lang sa imus ang store nya....

thanks! oo nga e! bibili na rin sana ako ng 9.cs or 9.cm sa mar 22 para pagkatapos ng cutoff ng billing ng credit card ;D kaso BPI lang sa spectra, e HSBC mastercard akin. aling dealer ba ino-honor to? ???

try to contact cybermms, they offerd 0%, issue ka lang PDC, kaya lang sa imus ang store nya..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 18, 2005 at 11:09 AM
they accept any visa mastercard
ang alam ko bpi n standard lang ang may deferred sa kanila

as in 0%? >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Mar 18, 2005 at 11:23 AM
masama ang balak mo bro hahahaha
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Mar 18, 2005 at 11:24 AM
as in 0%? >:D

NO! hindi sila kasali sa BPI madness.... :-[
sayang nga eh!!!!! :-X
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 18, 2005 at 11:28 AM
masama ang balak mo bro hahahaha

para sa katulad kong kapus-palad, nde dapat pinapalagpas yang mga 0% na yan hehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Mar 18, 2005 at 12:25 PM
Ahihihihi... parehas lang tayong kapus palad pre. di nga ko nakapag upgrade ng 9 series  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Mar 18, 2005 at 12:57 PM
Ahihihihi... parehas lang tayong kapus palad pre. di nga ko nakapag upgrade ng 9 series  ;D

ako, alam ko kung bakit ka di makapag-upgrade.  >:D >:D >:D  pre, nagka-usapna kayo ni kOYA?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 18, 2005 at 01:03 PM
Ahihihihi... parehas lang tayong kapus palad pre. di nga ko nakapag upgrade ng 9 series  ;D

8.3 yung sayo di ba? ako kc bago lang dito. inabutan ko yung 9 series na. pro parang nde ka naman yata interesado sa 9 e :) SET ba o push pull? :) (naks parang me alam ako tungkol dito hehehe)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Mar 18, 2005 at 04:11 PM
Kim,

nakareserve na pala yung tooot kay tooot eh...  :(

bumblebee,

yup. 8.3 lang yung sa akin  ;D gusto mo ng PP amp? may pinabebenta soup up na yun  :o
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 19, 2005 at 11:18 AM
punk_kid,

Pwede naman ata pakiusapan si masta dun sa request mo. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Mar 21, 2005 at 01:38 PM
salamat koya  ;) tuloy ang ligaya  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bonzai on Mar 21, 2005 at 04:23 PM
sobrang sulit bro, less 1.5k yun, kasi brandnew is 5.5k,
akin 9.1 din gamit ko for surround at sobrang happy ako sa result.

bro saan ba makikita yung ads na yan?

pwede kayang gawing center channel ang 9.1?

im using 9.2 for my front, then im planing to get 2 pairs of 9.1, 1pair  be my surround and the other pair is my front & rear center,  coz im using rxv440 (6.1 channel) pwede kaya yun?

ok din kaya ang dialogue ng 9.1 as my center channel or iba pa rin ba ang 9cm or 9cs?

tenx in advance
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 21, 2005 at 04:27 PM
bro saan ba makikita yung ads na yan?

pwede kayang gawing center channel ang 9.1?

im using 9.2 for my front, then im planing to get 2 pairs of 9.1, 1pair  be my surround and the other pair is my front & rear center,  coz im using rxv440 (6.1 channel) pwede kaya yun?

ok din kaya ang dialogue ng 9.1 as my center channel or iba pa rin ba ang 9cm or 9cs?

tenx in advance

pedeng-pede yang binabalak mo :) pro mas maganda ata kung 9.2 rin yung center.

http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=35394.0

the sale was withdrawn.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bonzai on Mar 21, 2005 at 05:04 PM
pedeng-pede yang binabalak mo :) pro mas maganda ata kung 9.2 rin yung center.

http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=35394.0

the sale was withdrawn.

tenx..

pero nagdadalawang isip lang ako baka mas maganda parin kung 9cm or 9cs pa rin, kasi diba iba ang design ng center speaker?

pero syempre mas mura naman talaga if 9.1 ang gagamitin ko.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: turismo1997 on Mar 21, 2005 at 07:09 PM
mga sir, saan po mas magandang i-match ang yamaha rx-v1500? sa 9.2,9.3 or yung flrstander na 9.5?..thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 21, 2005 at 08:00 PM
mga sir, saan po mas magandang i-match ang yamaha rx-v1500? sa 9.2,9.3 or yung flrstander na 9.5?..thanks

id go for 9.4 :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 22, 2005 at 12:43 AM
mga sir, saan po mas magandang i-match ang yamaha rx-v1500? sa 9.2,9.3 or yung flrstander na 9.5?..thanks

For HT go for floorstander para meron slam and fuller sound effect.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Mar 22, 2005 at 05:56 AM
tenx..

pero nagdadalawang isip lang ako baka mas maganda parin kung 9cm or 9cs pa rin, kasi diba iba ang design ng center speaker?

pero syempre mas mura naman talaga if 9.1 ang gagamitin ko.




ok na ok yan binabalak mo bro, pero bago mo gwin yan punta ka muna sa spectra and try mo muna, ok lang naman sa kanila yan eh..... ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Mar 22, 2005 at 09:09 AM
bonzai,

kung ako... 9c pa rin kasi yun talaga pang center. pag complete na 5.1/6.1 setup mo then you can experiment by replacing 9.1 as your center speaker... iwas gastos pa hehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mcbry on Mar 22, 2005 at 09:26 AM
mga sir, saan po mas magandang i-match ang yamaha rx-v1500? sa 9.2,9.3 or yung flrstander na 9.5?..thanks

sir, depende din sa size ng room mo... if malaki ang room mo, go for floorstander na para fuller ang sound nya.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Mar 22, 2005 at 09:41 AM
Ahihihihi... parehas lang tayong kapus palad pre. di nga ko nakapag upgrade ng 9 series  ;D


d ka makapg-upgrade to 9 series samantalang panay ang sakmal mo sa LPs.  hehehe

fish tayo. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 22, 2005 at 11:53 AM

d ka makapg-upgrade to 9 series samantalang panay ang sakmal mo sa LPs.  hehehe

fish tayo. ;D

Meron secret yan senor jetok.. heheehhee ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bonzai on Mar 23, 2005 at 10:39 AM
bonzai,

kung ako... 9c pa rin kasi yun talaga pang center. pag complete na 5.1/6.1 setup mo then you can experiment by replacing 9.1 as your center speaker... iwas gastos pa hehehe
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ok, siguro ill go for 9c kasi baka mabitin lang ako sa vocals ng 9.1 kasi iba talaga ang design ng center spkr eh, pero try ko pa rin pakinggan baka nga naman pwede rin naman angh 9.1 kasi marami rin namang gumagamit nun para sa center nila diba.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 24, 2005 at 04:33 AM
Wahoo! Nakabili na rin ako sa wakas ng 9.CS!  ;D ;D ;D I think match lang sila ng 9.4s ko, malamang kung pinagkagutuman ko yung extra P1.8k for the 9.CM baka natabunan na yung 9.4s.

Guwapo talaga ng all-diamond 9 setup with the grills off. :o

Kayod uli ako para sa isa pang pair of 9.SR para 7 matching channels of Diamond 9 sonic bliss  :P
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: eVo-23X on Apr 03, 2005 at 04:53 PM
how much is the Wharfedale 9CM?  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hans_adriane on Apr 04, 2005 at 03:41 AM
Wahoo! Nakabili na rin ako sa wakas ng 9.CS!  ;D ;D ;D I think match lang sila ng 9.4s ko, malamang kung pinagkagutuman ko yung extra P1.8k for the 9.CM baka natabunan na yung 9.4s.

Guwapo talaga ng all-diamond 9 setup with the grills off. :o

Kayod uli ako para sa isa pang pair of 9.SR para 7 matching channels of Diamond 9 sonic bliss  :P

Bro Congrats dyan.. di lang Gwapo sa looks yan pre wait mo pagbreak in and you'll enjoy it more pa.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Apr 04, 2005 at 09:13 AM
Bro Congrats dyan.. di lang Gwapo sa looks yan pre wait mo pagbreak in and you'll enjoy it more pa.. ;D

Thanks bro. Yung 9.4s ko na-break in na rinig tuloy yung difference. Matigas pa yung tunog kasi factory fresh. Lagi na nga lang ako naka-7 channel stereo para babad across the frequency range lahat ng speakers para break in agad.  ;D

how much is the Wharfedale 9CM? :)


9.cm: P6,300. see my pm on other prices.  O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Apr 04, 2005 at 12:18 PM
Wahoo! Nakabili na rin ako sa wakas ng 9.CS!  ;D ;D ;D I think match lang sila ng 9.4s ko, malamang kung pinagkagutuman ko yung extra P1.8k for the 9.CM baka natabunan na yung 9.4s.

Guwapo talaga ng all-diamond 9 setup with the grills off. :o

Kayod uli ako para sa isa pang pair of 9.SR para 7 matching channels of Diamond 9 sonic bliss  :P

d00dz, congrats bro, ano kulay set up mo? mas guwapo siguro kung rosewood lahat ;)
malamang hindi mo maiwan iwan yan ngayon, parang gusto mo laging wkend para lagi mong kasama yan, hehehe....
enjoy listening bro  ;) :D :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Apr 04, 2005 at 01:04 PM
d00dz, congrats bro, ano kulay set up mo? mas guwapo siguro kung rosewood lahat ;)
malamang hindi mo maiwan iwan yan ngayon, parang gusto mo laging wkend para lagi mong kasama yan, hehehe....
enjoy listening bro  ;) :D :)

Thanks bro. Black ash lahat. Impulse buy kasi yung 9.4 eh, kaya yung itim nabili ko tuloy.  ;D ;D ;D Pogi din pala yung rosewood, class ang dating. Okey din yung beech, malinis naman. Beech kasi yung 9.6 na nakadisplay sa Spectra ibang level talaga hehe  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: YrNeH on Apr 05, 2005 at 05:28 AM
tanong lang mga kapatid: magkano 9.6?  salamat :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 05, 2005 at 07:42 AM
tanong lang mga kapatid: magkano 9.6?  salamat :)

last i checked it was around 17.5k.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Apr 05, 2005 at 01:24 PM
Jetok,

yun lang kasi ang kaya ko sa ngayon pre  ;D ;D

Hans,

meron ako secret agent  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Apr 06, 2005 at 03:59 PM
Mukhang interesting yang sikreto mo ha kid_lat.  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on Apr 06, 2005 at 07:30 PM
Grabe ang mga banat nyo sa speakers ng Diamond... ang 9.1 ginawang surrounds tapos puro 9.6 na ang tanong!

Ang gamit ko naman sa bahay ay 9.2 para sa Front.  Isip ko ngayon, kukuha ako ng WH-2 para sa Surrounds (with Center) tapos dagdagan ko ng Diamond 9CS para sa yun na talaga ang sa Center Front.  Pag ganun, buo na ang set-up, 6.1.  Ang Center ng WH-2 gagawin ko Center Rear.

Ano recommendation nyo?  (medyo mababa lang talaga budget)

Thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: musika on Apr 06, 2005 at 08:01 PM
Guys! dont you notice why the price of the wharfedale diamond 9 series from UK is almost the same with MA, (check from magazine price) but here in the phil. its 3 times cheaper. ??? does it has something to do with europian or asian version.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Apr 07, 2005 at 05:50 AM
Grabe ang mga banat nyo sa speakers ng Diamond... ang 9.1 ginawang surrounds tapos puro 9.6 na ang tanong!

Ang gamit ko naman sa bahay ay 9.2 para sa Front.  Isip ko ngayon, kukuha ako ng WH-2 para sa Surrounds (with Center) tapos dagdagan ko ng Diamond 9CS para sa yun na talaga ang sa Center Front.  Pag ganun, buo na ang set-up, 6.1.  Ang Center ng WH-2 gagawin ko Center Rear.

Ano recommendation nyo?  (medyo mababa lang talaga budget)

Thanks!

ok yan iniisip mo bro, 9.2 ok na ok yan sa both music and ht. ;)
ano gamit mo receiver?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 07, 2005 at 07:22 AM
Guys! dont you notice why the price of the wharfedale diamond 9 series from UK is almost the same with MA, (check from magazine price) but here in the phil. its 3 times cheaper. ??? does it has something to do with europian or asian version.

wharfedale is a chinese-owned company. i don't think there's a european or asian version of wharfedales. most, if not all, of them are manufactured in the new china factory.

as for pricing, it largely depends on the main distributor.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on Apr 07, 2005 at 08:41 AM
ok yan iniisip mo bro, 9.2 ok na ok yan sa both music and ht. ;)
ano gamit mo receiver?

Vhongbiker!  Thanks for the reply.  Receiver ko ay Yamaha RX-V450, naka promo price kasi.  isip ko dati kunin ko Marantz pero, Yamaha ang nanalo dahil sa mga reviews and feedback narining ko.  Highly improved daw kasi itong Yamaha, sabi nila.

Oo nga, as for the speakers, I need to sell my old stuff so that I can get a WH-2 Set plus a Diamon Center.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Apr 07, 2005 at 10:34 AM
itgbkj,

I suggest you auditon WH-3 first.  Heard good feedback from this new babies.  ;)

Grabe ang mga banat nyo sa speakers ng Diamond... ang 9.1 ginawang surrounds tapos puro 9.6 na ang tanong!

Ang gamit ko naman sa bahay ay 9.2 para sa Front.  Isip ko ngayon, kukuha ako ng WH-2 para sa Surrounds (with Center) tapos dagdagan ko ng Diamond 9CS para sa yun na talaga ang sa Center Front.  Pag ganun, buo na ang set-up, 6.1.  Ang Center ng WH-2 gagawin ko Center Rear.

Ano recommendation nyo?  (medyo mababa lang talaga budget)

Thanks!

musika,

Yes, the ones sold in the eu are the onces assembled there thus the cost.

Guys! dont you notice why the price of the wharfedale diamond 9 series from UK is almost the same with MA, (check from magazine price) but here in the phil. its 3 times cheaper. ??? does it has something to do with europian or asian version.

bumblebee,

No, wharfedale is a uk based company, they just have an assembly plant in China.  Although made in china, the parts are from the uk.

wharfedale is a chinese-owned company. i don't think there's a european or asian version of wharfedales. most, if not all, of them are manufactured in the new china factory.

as for pricing, it largely depends on the main distributor.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 07, 2005 at 10:46 AM
bumblebee,

No, wharfedale is a uk based company, they just have an assembly plant in China.  Although made in china, the parts are from the uk.


uk-based, yes, but still chinese-owned :) i believe all components are made in-house. i assume it means all made in china w/c isn't a bad thing ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Apr 07, 2005 at 12:20 PM
uk-based, yes, but still chinese-owned :) i believe all components are made in-house. i assume it means all made in china w/c isn't a bad thing ;)

ahh! gaun ba yun sir? akala ko components made in uk but assembled in china ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: seph1018 on Apr 07, 2005 at 12:47 PM
Am considering buying a 9CS to replace my Diamond8 center. Reviews naman pls. Thnx ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 07, 2005 at 01:03 PM
ahh! gaun ba yun sir? akala ko components made in uk but assembled in china ???

according to their website, their R&D is still based in the UK.

here's an article from hificorner:

Colin MacKenzie's visit to Wharfedale
Wharfedale, established in 1932 by Gilbert Briggs, is possibly Britain's best known hifi brand. Famous for their loudspeakers, the company has gone through a number of owners since Gilbert Briggs sold it in 1958.

The most recent owners are twin Chinese businessmen who, naturally, have moved some of the production to China in order to keep the product competitively priced.

I was invited to look around their production facility in China. I have been fortunate enough to visit some factories in Japan some years ago, but never any in China. I had mixed feelings about what I would see and how this would impact on the ethics of selling Wharfedale products.

Fortunately I was pleasantly surprised. The factory uses, as I expected, substantially more labour than in other countries I've visited. Staff, although paid low by UK standards, are provided with housing and seemed reasonably content, although I admit it was difficult having a conversation as most of them didn't speak Scots and the Chinese words I picked up the previous evening in a Karaoke Bar didn't seem of much use.

As there isn't a tremendous amount of automation the products are essentially hand built, although great pains were made to ensure consistent quality control throughout. The Wharfedale 'story' is quite strong. Most of the components are now built within the factory. When they found a good company that made components they required, they bought them and moved them in! Here is one of a few factories which make all of their cabinets, drive units, crossovers, and assemble them by hand at affordable prices!

I suppose some people may consider that I'm quite cynical when being spun a sales pitch, (aren't we all) and I'm not easily bought with a drink in a Karaoke Bar or even a visit to China.

However the Wharfedale people have some realistic views. They realise that independent retailers in the UK are concerned about 'lending' their name to mass market products (not manufactured by them) and sold through a supermarket chain. They did take a lot of stick from me and other retailers about this philosophy.

Furthermore, Wharfedale marketing people have noted that the current trend (and most likely future) of loudspeakers being sold without systems is through hifi specialists and independent retailers. They have started to seriously address this issue through the introduction of products suitable for more discerning customers and independent hifi retailers. The most obvious example is the recently high reviewed 'Diamond 8' loudspeaker.

Virtually all of the components are built 'in house' - how many British speaker manufacturers can claim this nowadays?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ca89056 on Apr 07, 2005 at 01:15 PM
Wharfedale was bought in 1996 by a chinese company - IAG (the same company also owns Quad). They manufacture almost all of the speaker components they use in their own facility in Shenzen.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Apr 07, 2005 at 05:17 PM
In short, for all intents and purposes, it's Made in China, right?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Apr 07, 2005 at 06:52 PM
designed in UK, made in china
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on Apr 07, 2005 at 10:50 PM
itgbkj,

I suggest you auditon WH-3 first.  Heard good feedback from this new babies.  ;)


Hey, anyone who knows the selling price of WH-3?  Likewise, someone was asking a question on Diamond 9 CS - can anyone share their experience with the two sets of speakers?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Apr 08, 2005 at 10:00 AM
Hey, anyone who knows the selling price of WH-3? Likewise, someone was asking a question on Diamond 9 CS - can anyone share their experience with the two sets of speakers?

Thanks!

WH-3 is P4,800. Sold mine to buy Diamond 9.CS and 9.SR, so i guess i can answer your questions.  ;D

The real reason I sold my WH-3 is for the looks only, to match my 9.4s (you can verify that from my earlier posts hehe) >:D Anyway, big plus sa WH-3 surrounds ay yung tripolar design, wherein meron 1 bass driver in front at 2 tweeters at about 45% to the sides. Panalo sa envelopment, plus medyo malaki yung bass driver as compared to most bipolar speakers in the price range so dynamic range is good. The front, however, has a greater tendency to be boomy as compared to the 9.CS, even if both are rear ported.

The 9.CS naman, I'll have to give you my review after I break mine in. Matigas pa kasi yung tunog dahil brand new pa.  ;D However, in my opinion it matches my 9.4s fairly well, plus if you see the Wharfedale Diamond series brochure they always recommend the smaller center to match their fronts. Some of our friends here recommend the 9.CM to match the 9.2, and although i have nothing against it lalo na if you have the budget (9.CM is P6,300), baka lang masapawan yung fronts kung mas maganda quality ng center. Just my opinion.  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Apr 08, 2005 at 10:05 AM
As for the Wharfedale made in China thing, I don't have much of a problem with that. Economists predict that China will be the next economic superpower anyway with the US messing up everything, so before long we might change our perception and be prouder of our made in China gear.  O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Apr 08, 2005 at 10:28 AM
Yup,  that's the reality of business these days.  I think even my Mordaunt Shorts are similarly placed.  Like I said,  very soon everything will be made in China.  Except babies.   ;D  The labels may still say Made in England or UK, but I guess making new labels to say made in  china would add to the price tag.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 08, 2005 at 10:46 AM
i just love chinese ;D wharfs, siomai, siopao, any pao, mami, wanton kung-fu and zhao wei ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Apr 08, 2005 at 11:59 AM
i just love chinese ;D wharfs, siomai, siopao, any pao, mami, wanton kung-fu and zhao wei ;D ;D ;D

Shu Qi, White Flower liniment, Chinese love balls...  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: odyopayl on Apr 08, 2005 at 12:43 PM
For me it doesn't matter if it's made in China, we are now on the Stage of Globalization, Qualities are being Standardized because of ISO (International Standardization Organization).
even Chinese food napakasarap right? ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: pabili on Apr 08, 2005 at 05:42 PM
i just love chinese ;D wharfs, siomai, siopao, any pao, mami, wanton kung-fu and zhao wei ;D ;D ;D

iba ba ang chinese copper sa british copper na ginamit sa wharf (para di OT  ;D) ? Sa chemistry, lam ko copper is Cu eh!  ;D

those UK companies, and other european companies for that matter are so protective of their own markets - and they really charged so high for similar products in asia.

But I think some UK companies still do hype their products as UK-made blah blah blah.

So when reading products that says MADE IN UK, any of the two might be true
(1) they are lying  ;D (kasi china made din siya) but raking so much profits  8)
(2) they are to close down few months from now  ::)
Title: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on Apr 13, 2005 at 12:54 PM
Hello... I'm planning to get Diamond 9 CS... I'd like to know if the unit is equipped with Banana Plug Sockets?  The Diamond 9.2 aren't.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on Apr 13, 2005 at 12:57 PM
itgbkj,

I suggest you auditon WH-3 first.  Heard good feedback from this new babies.  ;)


Hello... I saw the Big big big WH-3 Surrounds.  But then, the salesman, when questioned which is better a WH-2 or Wh-3, simply said, "sir, WH-3 has only one driver... WH-2 has two." hmmm... besides medyo masyadong plastic tingnan ang WH-3... just a thought.  My mind is made up (for now) to get a WH-2 - unless someone else will insist that WH-3 is value for money in the long run.

I'd like to hear your feedback!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Apr 13, 2005 at 01:39 PM
Hello... I'm planning to get Diamond 9 CS... I'd like to know if the unit is equipped with Banana Plug Sockets?  The Diamond 9.2 aren't.

Yes, you can use banana plugs with the 9.CS, at biwirable pa if that's also your thing.

Hello... I saw the Big big big WH-3 Surrounds. But then, the salesman, when questioned which is better a WH-2 or Wh-3, simply said, "sir, WH-3 has only one driver... WH-2 has two." hmmm... besides medyo masyadong plastic tingnan ang WH-3... just a thought. My mind is made up (for now) to get a WH-2 - unless someone else will insist that WH-3 is value for money in the long run.

I'd like to hear your feedback!

Haven't had experience yet with the WH-2, although yung plastic-y appearance is one of the reasons I sold my WH-3, aside from wanting really bad to have an all-Diamond 9 setup.  ;D With the WH-2, you only get the "W" decal, with the WH-3, you get the entire "Wharfedale" hehe... babaw.  :P
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on Apr 13, 2005 at 04:10 PM
Yes, you can use banana plugs with the 9.CS, at biwirable pa if that's also your thing.

Nope, not into bi-wiring... too expensive... :)  and hey, thanks for the info... at least, I can start looking for one more banana plug for my center speaker wire.


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Haven't had experience yet with the WH-2, although yung plastic-y appearance is one of the reasons I sold my WH-3, aside from wanting really bad to have an all-Diamond 9 setup.  ;D With the WH-2, you only get the "W" decal, with the WH-3, you get the entire "Wharfedale" hehe... babaw.  :P
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Hahahaha... for me, for now, who cares about appearance... Just wanted to have a complete set to surround me.  Affordability and performance is what I am after... just like everyone else. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bonzai on Apr 18, 2005 at 02:19 AM
Yes, you can use banana plugs with the 9.CS, at biwirable pa if that's also your thing.

Haven't had experience yet with the WH-2, although yung plastic-y appearance is one of the reasons I sold my WH-3, aside from wanting really bad to have an all-Diamond 9 setup.  ;D With the WH-2, you only get the "W" decal, with the WH-3, you get the entire "Wharfedale" hehe... babaw.  :P


d00dZ,

i bought  9.4 pero type ko yung 9cm for my center...

masasapawan ba yung 9.4 ng 9cm?

ano bang magandang surround spkr? how bout D9 DFS?

im using yamaha 440
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 18, 2005 at 05:00 AM

d00dZ,

i bought  9.4 pero type ko yung 9cm for my center...

masasapawan ba yung 9.4 ng 9cm?

ano bang magandang surround spkr? how bout D9 DFS?

im using yamaha 440

Bro don't worry di masasapawan yan kasi meron naman adjustment sa level ng fronts and center mo.. and for me better na maganda Center speaker mo kasi most of the dialogue and effect starts sa center channel. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Apr 18, 2005 at 09:06 AM

d00dZ,

i bought  9.4 pero type ko yung 9cm for my center...

masasapawan ba yung 9.4 ng 9cm?

ano bang magandang surround spkr? how bout D9 DFS?

im using yamaha 440

Bro don't worry di masasapawan yan kasi meron naman adjustment sa level ng fronts and center mo.. and for me better na maganda Center speaker mo kasi most of the dialogue and effect starts sa center channel. ;D

bonzai, sir hans adriane is right, so long as you set the levels properly, wala namang sapawarang mangyayari. All I'm saying is that it is Wharfedale themselves who recommend the 9.CS to match the 9.4, so may-I-sunod lang ako. If you've got the extra P1,800, then by all means go for the 9.CM.  ;)

I've been asking around for the D9.DFS, pero it seems that hindi daw kumuha yung Philippine dealer nito. I'm using two pairs of D9.SR in my 7.1 setup, and it sounds fine to me. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: zakkaz on Apr 18, 2005 at 10:49 AM
bonzai, sir hans adriane is right, so long as you set the levels properly, wala namang sapawarang mangyayari. All I'm saying is that it is Wharfedale themselves who recommend the 9.CS to match the 9.4, so may-I-sunod lang ako. If you've got the extra P1,800, then by all means go for the 9.CM.  ;)

I've been asking around for the D9.DFS, pero it seems that hindi daw kumuha yung Philippine dealer nito. I'm using two pairs of D9.SR in my 7.1 setup, and it sounds fine to me. ;D
nakita ko na yung 9sr sa spectra d other day
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Apr 19, 2005 at 08:26 AM
Can anyone point me to a website showing the weights of the Diamond 9 speakers, particularly the 9.SR? I have a ceiling mounting problem kasi, as you may read in this thread of mine:

http://pinoydvd.com/content/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=28&expv=0&?topic=36296.0

Wala kasi weighing scale sa bahay e  :P Thanks!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 19, 2005 at 08:39 AM
Can anyone point me to a website showing the weights of the Diamond 9 speakers, particularly the 9.SR? I have a ceiling mounting problem kasi, as you may read in this thread of mine:

http://pinoydvd.com/content/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=28&expv=0&?topic=36296.0

Wala kasi weighing scale sa bahay e  :P Thanks!  ;D

the manual doesn't say anything about wt. the 9.1 is about 5 kgs. the sr, i believe should be less.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bonzai on Apr 20, 2005 at 12:38 AM
bonzai, sir hans adriane is right, so long as you set the levels properly, wala namang sapawarang mangyayari. All I'm saying is that it is Wharfedale themselves who recommend the 9.CS to match the 9.4, so may-I-sunod lang ako. If you've got the extra P1,800, then by all means go for the 9.CM.  ;)

I've been asking around for the D9.DFS, pero it seems that hindi daw kumuha yung Philippine dealer nito. I'm using two pairs of D9.SR in my 7.1 setup, and it sounds fine to me. ;D

salamat mga bro...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: deo on Apr 20, 2005 at 08:43 AM
mga bro na may SW150, pano mo ma nnotice if your subwoofer went thru the "break-in" period?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 20, 2005 at 09:04 AM
wharfedale suggests 50 hours of continuous use at moderate volume to run in their speakers. this may also be true for their subs. many people believe that break-in improves the sound but there are also who don't. i would like to think that the differences in views may been due to the differences in the materials their speakers use. kevlar seem to really benefit from break-in.

having said that, speakers being mechanical, will benefit from break-in. whether we hear it or not.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: deo on Apr 20, 2005 at 09:24 AM
hmmm...ok...para kasing lumambot ung base ko last night. i had to make some adjustments.parang di maganda ung break in...may break in din ba ang mga av receivers?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 20, 2005 at 09:35 AM
panong lumambot? kulang sa slam? i'm not sure about break-in in electronics. if there's much debate about speaker break-in, what more pa sa electronics ;D but i do know that electronics will perform better after warm up.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: deo on Apr 20, 2005 at 12:39 PM
panong lumambot? kulang sa slam? i'm not sure about break-in in electronics. if there's much debate about speaker break-in, what more pa sa electronics ;D but i do know that electronics will perform better after warm up.

parang unan..hehehe..diko ma descirbe eh. parang ang layo nung tunog, parang malalim. parang ung base ng drum set...di naman sya ganun dati..dati pag nanuod ako ng dvd tapos papakita ung 20th century fox  sa una, para brom bom instead of broom boom.,gets? hehehehe!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Apr 20, 2005 at 01:41 PM
be patient bro dheng.... you will not notice any improvement unless it's not yet broken in.... parang wine din yan habang tumatagal lalong sumasarap hehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: deo on Apr 20, 2005 at 02:05 PM
be patient bro dheng.... you will not notice any improvement unless it's not yet broken in.... parang wine din yan habang tumatagal lalong sumasarap hehehe

kala ko wait until its broken. hehehehe!!! nag taka lang ako kasi nag iba ang sounds kagabi..napuyat tuloy ako..buset! test ko ulit later. thanks for your feeback!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 20, 2005 at 10:03 PM
kala ko wait until its broken. hehehehe!!! nag taka lang ako kasi nag iba ang sounds kagabi..napuyat tuloy ako..buset! test ko ulit later. thanks for your feeback!


Baka meron ka nagalaw sa crossover ng avr mo??  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: deo on Apr 21, 2005 at 06:33 AM

Baka meron ka nagalaw sa crossover ng avr mo??  ;D

sinet to default ko na ung avr ko, medyo nag improve, pero pansin ko medyo malambot pa rin saka parang may echo ung base nya. :-\
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 21, 2005 at 07:20 AM
sinet to default ko na ung avr ko, medyo nag improve, pero pansin ko medyo malambot pa rin saka parang may echo ung base nya. :-\

san ba sya nakalagay? sa corner?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: deo on Apr 21, 2005 at 08:53 AM
naka patong ung front speaker ko sa sub. its been that way for a month. nasa right side ung sub if u'r facing the avr...hmm...
pag mas mataas ung crossover frequency mas matigas ung tunog nya...pag mas mas mababa (35hz) parang nag e-echo na..ganun ba un dapat? ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 21, 2005 at 08:58 AM
35 Hz yung crossover mo? san yan sa receiver o sa sub? try setting 80 Hz sa receiver and as high as you can go sa sub.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: deo on Apr 21, 2005 at 09:50 AM
35 Hz yung crossover mo? san yan sa receiver o sa sub? try setting 80 Hz sa receiver and as high as you can go sa sub.

sa sub....ang frequency settings lang na nababago ko sa avr is ung LPF/HPF. Try ko i-set to 80hz...Thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Apr 21, 2005 at 06:24 PM
9.6 review

http://www.theabsolutesound.com/newsletter/153/wharfedale.html
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 21, 2005 at 10:45 PM
sa sub....ang frequency settings lang na nababago ko sa avr is ung LPF/HPF. Try ko i-set to 80hz...Thanks

Dheng,

Try to set your SUB's lever higher than your AVR crossover.. kasi yun AVR mo na magregulate nun LFE na papasok sa sub mo.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 22, 2005 at 01:00 PM
i saw the 9.6. ang laki! mas mabigat pa yata sa akin ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Apr 22, 2005 at 06:15 PM
i saw the 9.6. ang laki! mas mabigat pa yata sa akin ;D

Oo nga. Mukha nga puny yung 9.4 ko kumpara dun. Kakainggit yung mga may pambili nun.   ^-^
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: triplex on Apr 22, 2005 at 10:45 PM
anybody upgrading their diamond 8s to 9s, txt me 09209611047.  sana this weekend.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: triplex on Apr 23, 2005 at 07:10 PM
mga bros, need you opinions, plan to use 9.cs and 9.1 for my centr and fronts, have a spare 8.1 and will use it for my surrounds.  my yammy 540 will drive the system.  do the 8s and the 9s have the same timber? or will it not matter since my fronts are all 9 series?  anyways pang likod lang naman yung 8.1. 

also, will the perfect view brackets (worth around 1.4k a pair ata yun at ace) handle the weight of the 8.1 for my surrounds? if di kaya, do you guys have any suggestions to hang my 8.1s.  Used to have wh2 surrounds kc so madali lang ibitin sa pader.  also have no space for stands at the back.

dapat pala di nalang nagawa pc ko . .. nakapaglog in muli yan tuloy I found out about these diamond 9s from pdvd . . . inatake tuloy ulit ng SARS!!! ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Apr 25, 2005 at 10:49 AM
Ok na yang binabalak mong setup bro... you need a sub to support the LF of your front speakers. As for the bracket, it depends on your preference... pwede rin speaker stand lagay mo.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: triplex on Apr 25, 2005 at 10:15 PM
thanks sir, i plan to get the us audio 8s for my LF, pwede na siguro to for my 40 sq.m. room.  can twait to get my 9s this week.  ;D

also saw perfect view brackets last weekend sa ace, mga 1.6k 1 pair though am not sure kung kaya nito yung 8.1s, capacity nya is around 10 kgs.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Apr 26, 2005 at 05:52 AM
thanks sir, i plan to get the us audio 8s for my LF, pwede na siguro to for my 40 sq.m. room.  can twait to get my 9s this week.  ;D

also saw perfect view brackets last weekend sa ace, mga 1.6k 1 pair though am not sure kung kaya nito yung 8.1s, capacity nya is around 10 kgs.

40 sqm? bro baka mabitin ka sa us audio 8s for ur LF  >:(, pagisipan mo din mabuti bro, mahirap magsisi sa huli, ikaw din! ???
hehehe  ;) :D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on Apr 26, 2005 at 11:38 AM
Hi, I just got my Diamond 9 CS from "The Home Theater."  Walang pagsisisi... good set-up with 9.2 and the CS.  Good timbre match!

Hey, if you are on a low budget, maybe you'd like to try the "L-Type" Frames bookshelf.  It's only 40 pesos for a pair.  You can fix one frame to the roof (if your roof is reachable), and do a nut-and-bolt thing with the other L-type.  After, just tie-up your bookshelf speakers to serve as your surrounds.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 26, 2005 at 12:04 PM
Hi, I just got my Diamond 9 CS from "The Home Theater."  Walang pagsisisi... good set-up with 9.2 and the CS.  Good timbre match!

Hey, if you are on a low budget, maybe you'd like to try the "L-Type" Frames bookshelf.  It's only 40 pesos for a pair.  You can fix one frame to the roof (if your roof is reachable), and do a nut-and-bolt thing with the other L-type.  After, just tie-up your bookshelf speakers to serve as your surrounds.  :)

congrats itgbkj. what amp are you using? post k naman ng review ng system mo :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Apr 26, 2005 at 12:12 PM
itgbkj, congtas bro... ;) complete na ba HT set up mo?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on Apr 26, 2005 at 12:38 PM
Sir vhongbiker, hindi pa complete na kagustuhan ko.  Planning/Saving-up to buy a pair of Diamond 9 SRs.  I originally eyed WH-2 pero as per advise ng shop owner (Sonny of The Home Theater) and other members of PinoyDVD, SRs na lang talaga.

Right now, naka salpak yung Wharfedale ko na Valdus 100 (4 years old at kinalas at inayos na sa Raon).  That's why I'm settled with Wharfedale for its performance and VALUE FOR MONEY.

Yung ginawa ko na Center Rear ay yung Dai-ichi ko na Center.  Kaso, hindi ko pa mapapagana ng maayos yung 6.1  puro 5.1 lang.

I'm selling nga my old set-up eh.  Wharfedale Valdus 100 (inayos na sa raon), Kenwood na FS-100 ata, at yung Dai-ichi center, with a pioneer receiver na pro-logic lang.

How about you, what's your set-up?  Teka, baka maiingit lang ako.  hahahaha... :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bonzai on Apr 26, 2005 at 03:06 PM
hi guys, just want to here any feedback from you kung sinong mas swabe at powerfull sub US.Audio or Warfedale sw150?  ??? ???

my set-up, 9.4, 9cm, wh2
avr- yamaha 440
room is 20 sqm.


pls advice.  tenx
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Apr 27, 2005 at 05:59 AM
Sir vhongbiker, hindi pa complete na kagustuhan ko.  Planning/Saving-up to buy a pair of Diamond 9 SRs.  I originally eyed WH-2 pero as per advise ng shop owner (Sonny of The Home Theater) and other members of PinoyDVD, SRs na lang talaga.

Right now, naka salpak yung Wharfedale ko na Valdus 100 (4 years old at kinalas at inayos na sa Raon).  That's why I'm settled with Wharfedale for its performance and VALUE FOR MONEY.

Yung ginawa ko na Center Rear ay yung Dai-ichi ko na Center.  Kaso, hindi ko pa mapapagana ng maayos yung 6.1  puro 5.1 lang.

I'm selling nga my old set-up eh.  Wharfedale Valdus 100 (inayos na sa raon), Kenwood na FS-100 ata, at yung Dai-ichi center, with a pioneer receiver na pro-logic lang.

How about you, what's your set-up?  Teka, baka maiingit lang ako.  hahahaha... :)


naka 6.1 bro, all diamond 9.  :D
gudlak sa pag uupgrade mo, post mo nalang review mo sa mga bago mong toys... ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 27, 2005 at 09:45 AM
hi guys, just want to here any feedback from you kung sinong mas swabe at powerfull sub US.Audio or Warfedale sw150?  ??? ???

my set-up, 9.4, 9cm, wh2
avr- yamaha 440
room is 20 sqm.


pls advice.  tenx

sw150 para all wharfs ;D i don't know about the us audio, but the sw150 is 150 watts w/ and is a 10-incher.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Apr 27, 2005 at 10:56 AM
sw150 para all wharfs ;D i don't know about the us audio, but the sw150 is 150 watts w/ and is a 10-incher.

yes bro agree ako kay bumblebee, mas maganda kung all warfes, para mas maganda ang blending ng sounds, :D
para sa akin lang ha, nasa sa iyo parin ang desisyon ;)
sa akin warfe plus dq12, ok na olryt....
gudlak bro....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jerq on Apr 27, 2005 at 03:03 PM
got myself an all wharfs setup and  im using us audio subs. 12 inch at 300w.
ok nman sya. kailangan lng break in. kung sa gapang lng ng bass eh panalo to.
 
kung medyo tipid ka go for us audio. pero suggestion lng yan.

kaw prin ang magdecide nyan... kung san ka masaya at makontento

goodluck  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on Apr 27, 2005 at 05:57 PM
Is there clarity in subs?  :)

Anyway, my set-up at home is wharfes and Dai-ichi for the sub.  At first, medyo tagilid ang performance ng bass, pero break-in nga ang kailangan.  Cheaper at tama lang ang buga.

One could not have too much LFEs, right?  Otherwise, well, baka tunog jeepney ang labas nyan... puro bass at walang clarity.  :)

Anyway, test it out.  I suggest go to Mega, meron ata dun supplier ng Wharfes at punta ka sa Dai-ichi showroom at magpademo ka sa sub.  One stop center yun.

Goodluck at balitaan mo kami!  At kami ay nasisiyahan pag may bagong nabili kayo dito.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hunnyko on Apr 27, 2005 at 06:15 PM
I have a wharf SW150 at home.  I bought it last December.  But currently when
I'm watching some movies there is an odd sound coming from the sub "grrrrrrr" when having some low frequencies.  Crossover setting is at 80Hz.  Volume level is set at moderate but I am still hearing the "GRRRRR"
thing.  Is my sub broken, because I didn't experience this on my first few weeks....Can anyone help me....thanks..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mojako on Apr 27, 2005 at 10:11 PM
na compare nyo na ba yung 8.1 na tweaked nila anthony vs. 9.1 na stock?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bonzai on Apr 28, 2005 at 12:46 AM
got myself an all wharfs setup and  im using us audio subs. 12 inch at 300w.
ok nman sya. kailangan lng break in. kung sa gapang lng ng bass eh panalo to.
 
kung medyo tipid ka go for us audio. pero suggestion lng yan.

kaw prin ang magdecide nyan... kung san ka masaya at makontento

goodluck  :)


i agree with you jerq, iba talaga ang gapang ng bass ng us audio... :o

akala ko dahil subwoofer of the year ang sw150 eh kaya nya ng ilampaso ang us audio kasi locally made lang, pero ng ma-audition ko sa site and sound shangrila today eh nabaligtad ang istorya... :o :o

grabe di ko akalaing kakainin ng us audio ang wharfe sw150..... :o :o :o

sa gapang at gapang lang ng bass at laki ng tunog talagang tinalo ng us audio ang sw150... gustong gusto ko ng bumili sw150  pero sa ipinapakitang performance ng us audio eh nagulo ang isip ko...

yung sw150 ramdam mo kung saan nanggagaling ang bass, pero yung us audio talagang ikinakalat nya ang bass at ganda ng gapang kaya di mo pansin kung subwoofer ang nagbabato ng bass kasi aakalain mong galing ng front,center or rear mo ang bass....

pero still pinag-iisipan ko pa ring mabuti para di naman ako magkamali ng pagbili...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on Apr 28, 2005 at 10:13 AM
If you want to save about P500 peso or more, try mo to find US Audio in raon.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: masterjericho on Apr 28, 2005 at 10:19 AM
been on spectra yesterday canvassing for a sub

napagcompare ko yung sw150 saka dq12

para sakin, parang mas ok dq12 pero siempre

kaiba naman yung 10" sa 12" kaya mahirap

magdecide
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 28, 2005 at 10:27 AM
been on spectra yesterday canvassing for a sub

napagcompare ko yung sw150 saka dq12

para sakin, parang mas ok dq12 pero siempre

kaiba naman yung 10" sa 12" kaya mahirap

magdecide

are you into multichannel music? kung nde, get the badder, phatter sub for HT. stereo, for me, is better in 2.0 than in 2.1 (assuming nde sub-sat).
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: masterjericho on Apr 28, 2005 at 10:48 AM
well.. im more into HT kaya cguro mas na incline ako sa dq12

anyways, i have to check out others also (us audio, dtx & dq)

versus sw150
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: migs26 on Apr 28, 2005 at 12:48 PM
mga bro,

planning to buy my 1st wharf eh...budget is 10k..but can stretch it a bit kung OK..

what is the best buy ba?
I've auditioned an 8.4 eh OK naman para sa akin..
pero di ko pa na try mag pa audition ng 9s eh...ano ba katapat ng 8.4 sa 9 series in term of price and quality?


thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 28, 2005 at 12:56 PM
mga bro,

planning to buy my 1st wharf eh...budget is 10k..but can stretch it a bit kung OK..

what is the best buy ba?
I've auditioned an 8.4 eh OK naman para sa akin..
pero di ko pa na try mag pa audition ng 9s eh...ano ba katapat ng 8.4 sa 9 series in term of price and quality?


thanks!

pricewise, 9.4 (9.7k ata) kaso 2-way it o like the 8.3. yung 9.5 (12.5k ata) 2 1/2-way just like the 8.4.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on Apr 28, 2005 at 12:58 PM
Hi Migs26.

Try downloading the Wharfedale brochures - the softcopy documentation is exactly the same one as those you'll get when you buy the item.  I'm not an expert on this, but from my understanding, Wharfes 9 have a curved design to eliminate whatever undesirable sounds a regular box type speaker.  Then, they've improved the "insides" of the D9 - metal structure that holds the driver, etc.  Finally, the kevlar that the D8s used to have had been changed from Yellow to Black.

My opinion, the company had indeed improved their design with D9s.  So, just spend a bit more and you'll get what's their latest - and from the reviews of D9s here in PinoyDVD (56 pages all in all and counting), Wharfe Speakers are value-for-money.  :)

Goodluck and balitaan mo kami sa new toys mo.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: triplex on May 02, 2005 at 11:33 PM
need your opinions bros, am  now using my 8.1s as surrounds, recetly got 9.cs and 9.1s for my fronts.  Am thinking of getting the 9.sr to replace the 8.1s para full 9s ang speakers ko.  Do you think mas ok or shall I retain it?

Also am still in the market looking for the best priced sub to complement my existing set-up.  Considering the DQ12s and the US Audio 512 pero parang overkill for my puny 9.1s kc. Parang  a 10 incher will do for my room.

Correction on my earlier post, my room is only less than 15 sq.m. lang pala.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on May 03, 2005 at 07:37 AM
need your opinions bros, am  now using my 8.1s as surrounds, recetly got 9.cs and 9.1s for my fronts.  Am thinking of getting the 9.sr to replace the 8.1s para full 9s ang speakers ko.  Do you think mas ok or shall I retain it?

Also am still in the market looking for the best priced sub to complement my existing set-up.  Considering the DQ12s and the US Audio 512 pero parang overkill for my puny 9.1s kc. Parang  a 10 incher will do for my room.

Correction on my earlier post, my room is only less than 15 sq.m. lang pala.

8.1 na lang. or you could sell it to fund another 9.1 :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on May 03, 2005 at 04:15 AM
need your opinions bros, am  now using my 8.1s as surrounds, recetly got 9.cs and 9.1s for my fronts.  Am thinking of getting the 9.sr to replace the 8.1s para full 9s ang speakers ko.  Do you think mas ok or shall I retain it?

Also am still in the market looking for the best priced sub to complement my existing set-up.  Considering the DQ12s and the US Audio 512 pero parang overkill for my puny 9.1s kc. Parang  a 10 incher will do for my room.

Correction on my earlier post, my room is only less than 15 sq.m. lang pala.

hayyyyy........... hirap ba magdecide bro? ???
ganyan talaga yan! walang katapusan sa pag iisip, dahil sunod nyan after a days a week month or a year paga UPGRADE naman ang gagawin mo, dahil may BAGO na naman at mas maganda kaysa sa SET UP MO, hehehehe..... PERO ENJOY DI BA?  ;)
GUD LAK NALANG BRO....post mo nalang review and comments mo sa mga bago mong toys  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on May 03, 2005 at 04:30 AM
8.1 na lang. or you could sell it to fund another 9.1 :)

I agree. Limited range lang ang 9.SR. Although it wouldn't matter much unless you listen to 5/7 channel stereo. Unless you really like the aesthetics of an all-diamond 9 setup, lamang ng katiting ang 8.1 for surrounds.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: triplex on May 04, 2005 at 09:57 PM
nalalakihan ks ako sa 8.1s for my surrounds, i used to have my wh2 for my surrounds kaya medyo naninibago lang.  saw the 9.srs sa brochure and i think their a bit smaller than the my 8.1s.  malabo na din cguro for a 9.1 surrounds since no space sa likod. . . planning to get wall mounts for the 8.1s   .. . performance wise if the 8.1s have little difference with the 9.sr, baka nga mag all d9s nalang ako. 

tama k vhongbiker, mahirap talaga pag tinamaan ka nag sakit uli. . . parang ayoko nang mag log uli, daming options . . . >:D

ano kaya unahin ko change my 8.1s to 9.sr or get a sub ? . . .if i opt to get the sub firt, anong klase naman?  ang hirap  . . . ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on May 04, 2005 at 10:10 PM
nalalakihan ks ako sa 8.1s for my surrounds, i used to have my wh2 for my surrounds kaya medyo naninibago lang.  saw the 9.srs sa brochure and i think their a bit smaller than the my 8.1s.  malabo na din cguro for a 9.1 surrounds since no space sa likod. . . planning to get wall mounts for the 8.1s   .. . performance wise if the 8.1s have little difference with the 9.sr, baka nga mag all d9s nalang ako. 

tama k vhongbiker, mahirap talaga pag tinamaan ka nag sakit uli. . . parang ayoko nang mag log uli, daming options . . . >:D

ano kaya unahin ko change my 8.1s to 9.sr or get a sub ? . . .if i opt to get the sub firt, anong klase naman?  ang hirap  . . . ;D ;D

sub na lang. sw150 para all d9's :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on May 05, 2005 at 11:06 AM
nalalakihan ks ako sa 8.1s for my surrounds, i used to have my wh2 for my surrounds kaya medyo naninibago lang.  saw the 9.srs sa brochure and i think their a bit smaller than the my 8.1s.  malabo na din cguro for a 9.1 surrounds since no space sa likod. . . planning to get wall mounts for the 8.1s   .. . performance wise if the 8.1s have little difference with the 9.sr, baka nga mag all d9s nalang ako. 

tama k vhongbiker, mahirap talaga pag tinamaan ka nag sakit uli. . . parang ayoko nang mag log uli, daming options . . . >:D

ano kaya unahin ko change my 8.1s to 9.sr or get a sub ? . . .if i opt to get the sub firt, anong klase naman?  ang hirap  . . . ;D ;D

Sub! Sub! Sub! ;D ;D ;D SW150 para tipid at matching, then compensate with bass shakers hehe  :P

Madali isabit yung 9.sr kasi medyo manipis.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: boomjam on May 05, 2005 at 02:47 PM
I've been hearing about these bass shakers. Ano ba ginagawa niyan?... Does it really improve the bass of your system?  Interested ako kasi parang medyo bitin yung bass ng HT system ko.  Where can you buy them?....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: keema on May 05, 2005 at 03:31 PM
Sub! Sub! Sub! ;D ;D ;D SW150 para tipid at matching, then compensate with bass shakers hehe  :P

Madali isabit yung 9.sr kasi medyo manipis.

oo nga sir, ano yung bass shaker?  san nilalagay to? tyaka anong ginagawa pag nalagay mo na?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on May 05, 2005 at 03:33 PM
oo nga sir, ano yung bass shaker? san nilalagay to? tyaka anong ginagawa pag nalagay mo na?


try this link.

http://pinoydvd.com/content/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=28&expv=0&?topic=1787.0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on May 05, 2005 at 06:28 PM
I've been hearing about these bass shakers. Ano ba ginagawa niyan?... Does it really improve the bass of your system?  Interested ako kasi parang medyo bitin yung bass ng HT system ko.  Where can you buy them?....

oo nga sir, ano yung bass shaker? san nilalagay to? tyaka anong ginagawa pag nalagay mo na?

If you haven't tried the link posted by sir bumblebee yet, bass shakers, technically called tactile transducers, add a another dimension to your HT experience that can be felt ("tactile"). Instead of emitting sounds in the LFE frequency range, they simply vibrate it out. Take that vibrating thing and attach it to your HT couch... what do you get? A couch vibrating along with the LFE! (cue Marvin Gaye's "Let's Get It On")

If you've got a sub worth Pxxx,xxx, you may not need them anymore, but if you're budget is only enough for our bang-for-the-buck Wharfes, bass shakers may be a good, cheap enhancement (at P945 per pair from Dai-ichi Megamall, plus the cost of any amp other than your HT amp/reciever).  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Jairus on May 06, 2005 at 02:12 PM
Saw and heard the SW150 at Park Square, ang liit pala nito!

Paired with the B&W600S3, it was able to integrate well in music.  Swabe siya but a little too weak for my taste -- baka hindi pa lang broken in and siguro din bec. of the set-up in the store.

Just sharing  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on May 07, 2005 at 10:48 AM
9.1, 9cs, sw150, 9.5, 9.6 MAPLE available already
on stock available 9.1 9cs sw150
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: marckd1 on May 09, 2005 at 02:39 PM
spectraav, how much ang 9.5 and 9cs? Thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Jairus on May 09, 2005 at 05:20 PM
spectraav,

may discount pa ba sw150 for pdvd members ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on May 10, 2005 at 08:59 AM
spectraav, how much ang 9.5 and 9cs? Thanks

here's the prices from the av stores thread.

9.1-5500
9.2-7000
9.3-8200
9.4-9700
9.5-12500
9C-4500
9S-3800
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Maestro on May 10, 2005 at 03:18 PM
hi mga sir... being a newbie...kakaenganyo kayo.

I have a Marantz SR4500 (7.1) and naghahanap pa lang ng speakers... bagay ba ang Wharfe dito???  I am thinking of getting the ff:
- Diamond 9.3
- Diamond 9CS
- Diamond 9SR (2 pairs???)
- Subs: Velo VX-10 (from my brother)

What you think? meron na bang nakaganito?  Suggestions are very much welcome.

Appreciate the help!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on May 13, 2005 at 09:25 AM
Hi, I am a Diamond 9 owner myself.  Yes, it's good - the best quality for that price range.  :) I think your 4500 can drive the speakers just well - so, when you have your toys already - complete with earth shaking sounds, let us know!

Good luck.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on May 14, 2005 at 10:18 PM
Guys,

Ang laki pala ng 9.6 compare sa 9.4...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/P1020105.jpg)

took this at Spectra... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on May 15, 2005 at 09:26 AM
Hi guys, based on your experience, how would you compare 9.1 with 8.1? Considering that 8.1 had a lot of citations. Is 9.1 an upgrade of 8.1?
Is it just the looks or also the sound quality. Does it have the tonal quality that gave the 8.1 its numerous commendations. Thanks....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: obey on May 15, 2005 at 06:51 PM
Guys,

Ang laki pala ng 9.6 compare sa 9.4...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/P1020105.jpg)

took this at Spectra... ;D ;D

OT lang mga sir.  Ano yung speaker na katabi ng 9.6?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Audioboy on May 15, 2005 at 07:24 PM
obey,

AR ata yun. costs hundreds of thousands. matagal na yan sa Spectra pero ni minsan, di ko pa narinig.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: migs26 on May 16, 2005 at 01:27 PM
meron binbenta sa akin ung friend ko na WH2...medyo bargain kaya gusto ko kunin... match ba sya sa 9.5 ko? ???
ang worry ko eh baka masapawan ng 9.5 yung mga maliliit na wh2 eh.. :-\
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jerq on May 16, 2005 at 01:35 PM
B
meron binbenta sa akin ung friend ko na WH2...medyo bargain kaya gusto ko kunin... match ba sya sa 9.5 ko? ???
ang worry ko eh baka masapawan ng 9.5 yung mga maliliit na wh2 eh.. :-\

bro,

un bang tinutukoy mo eh wh2 center??? kung center lng, go for 9cs which im using in my setup or 9cm.  i used wh2 center for my rear center. kung surround still go for 9sr.

but that all depends on ur hearing.. kaw din magdecide nyn..... audition mo muna.... then decide....


cheers
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: migs26 on May 16, 2005 at 03:11 PM
B
bro,

un bang tinutukoy mo eh wh2 center??? kung center lng, go for 9cs which im using in my setup or 9cm.  i used wh2 center for my rear center. kung surround still go for 9sr.

but that all depends on ur hearing.. kaw din magdecide nyn..... audition mo muna.... then decide....


cheers

yup, im referring to the wh2 center na masasapawan ng 9.5....but i'm buying both wh2 center & surround..enjoy ko na lang muna yung wh2 anyway mura lang naman score ko eh..pag sinumpong upgrade na lang uli.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: p.dividdy2 on May 16, 2005 at 03:44 PM
you change speaker levels naman sa receiver mo.. but i find the wh2 center ngongo and a bit high-mid sounding..kaya ang daming nag-bebenta nito at a low price..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on May 16, 2005 at 05:52 PM
Hi guys, based on your experience, how would you compare 9.1 with 8.1? Considering that 8.1 had a lot of citations. Is 9.1 an upgrade of 8.1?
Is it just the looks or also the sound quality. Does it have the tonal quality that gave the 8.1 its numerous commendations. Thanks....

I'll for the new model 9.1 sound and looks.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on May 16, 2005 at 06:02 PM
oist but nandito ka ha............ala ka don sa kabila? oks na b pc mo?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on May 16, 2005 at 06:24 PM
Ikaw din?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on May 16, 2005 at 08:01 PM
kayo pareho din ano gawa nyo hehehhehee


Senor LUstwander,

Salamat at naayos din ni masta rony..  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on May 16, 2005 at 08:20 PM
I would rather save up for a diamond cs than "settle" for the wh2 for the center. you save money and hassle of having to sell it. just set ure receiver to no center for now and let the 9.5s produce front and center channels.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ADM202E on May 17, 2005 at 06:13 PM
Medyo matagal na rin ako di nakakpost dito, mga bro magkano naba ngaun anf Diamond 9 series? Pwede ba pakilist? Salamat in advance!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on May 18, 2005 at 09:48 AM
Medyo matagal na rin ako di nakakpost dito, mga bro magkano naba ngaun anf Diamond 9 series? Pwede ba pakilist? Salamat in advance!!!

here's the prices from the av stores thread.

9.1-5500
9.2-7000
9.3-8200
9.4-9700
9.5-12500
9C-4500
9S-3800
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on May 18, 2005 at 09:53 AM
naku wrong grammar ako :-[ that should be "here are" instead of "here's" ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on May 18, 2005 at 08:22 PM
naku wrong grammar ako :-[ that should be "here are" instead of "here's" ;D

OKs lang yan.. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: obey on May 19, 2005 at 10:29 AM
obey,

AR ata yun. costs hundreds of thousands. matagal na yan sa Spectra pero ni minsan, di ko pa narinig.


Audioboy,

Kaya pala mukhang maganda :D  Parang ginto pala ang presyo.  Thanks audioboy!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: eagumban on May 19, 2005 at 11:52 AM
Mga bros....

Inquire lang kung magkano ang diamond 9 DFS na surround speaker.  Dinig ko nandito na para ma complete na ang setup ;D  parang wala sa list ng prices na napost. >:D >:D >:D
Sars lumayo ka >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bachwitz on May 19, 2005 at 03:21 PM
you change speaker levels naman sa receiver mo.. but i find the wh2 center ngongo and a bit high-mid sounding..kaya ang daming nag-bebenta nito at a low price..


aray ko.......     :-[
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on May 19, 2005 at 03:28 PM

aray ko.......     :-[

ang importante, happy ka :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on May 19, 2005 at 05:19 PM
Mga bros....

Inquire lang kung magkano ang diamond 9 DFS na surround speaker.  Dinig ko nandito na para ma complete na ang setup ;D  parang wala sa list ng prices na napost. >:D >:D >:D
Sars lumayo ka >:D >:D >:D

Hi, good choice to get a Diamond 9 DFS...  I will not settle for a WH2.  I'm still saving-up for a DFS.  Anyway, how much is it?  It's price range is 4300+.  Good luck and let us know when your set is complete.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bachwitz on May 19, 2005 at 05:31 PM
ang importante, happy ka :)

Yes, im contented (for now  ;)). I am just a newbie at this hobby and I guess my ears are not that sensitive yet.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on May 19, 2005 at 09:54 PM
mga sirs, ano po ba yung available colors ng 9 series dito sa Philippine market.

By the way what is the shade of maple, kasi nag search ako sa website ng wharfedale wala naman maple na color naka lagay dun.  Ang nandun lang ay black ash, rosewood, cherry, silver.

thanks

so far, i know there's rosewood, maple and black. the maple looks like this.

(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/images/ranges/detail_3.jpg)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on May 19, 2005 at 10:03 PM
here's the prices from the av stores thread.

9.1-5500
9.2-7000
9.3-8200
9.4-9700
9.5-12500
9C-4500
9S-3800

Mga sirs, ano po ba yung available colors ng 9 series dito sa Philippine market.

By the way is there a maple color for 9 series, kasi nag search ako sa website ng wharfedale wala naman maple na color naka lagay dun.  Ang nandun lang ay black ash, rosewood, beech, cherry, & silver.  Baka rosewood yun nakita instead of maple ?

thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ADM202E on May 20, 2005 at 09:07 AM


thanks mga bro, iniisip ko kasi maglagay ng mini HT sa bedroom ko. Any advice on diamond 9 series + avr combo? DI nako kasi updated.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on May 20, 2005 at 10:13 AM
thanks mga bro, iniisip ko kasi maglagay ng mini HT sa bedroom ko. Any advice on diamond 9 series + avr combo? DI nako kasi updated.

based on the posts here, receivers from yamaha, hk and marantz are the current "hot" commodities for the diamond 9s.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: zakkaz on May 20, 2005 at 10:57 AM
so far, i know there's rosewood, maple and black. the maple looks like this.

(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/images/ranges/detail_3.jpg)
there's also cherry on display at spectra
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: migs26 on May 20, 2005 at 01:21 PM
based on the posts here, receivers from yamaha, hk and marantz are the current "hot" commodities for the diamond 9s.


sa mga naka yamaha - wharf 9.5 combi users...

didn't you find the combination a bit on the bright side????
para kasing medyo bright para sa akin eh....

how would you describe yung setup nyo?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on May 20, 2005 at 03:48 PM
audioenz reviews the 9.6 ;)

http://audioenz.co.nz/2005/wharfedale_diamond9-6.shtml
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on May 22, 2005 at 10:06 PM
Mga bro, anong store ba authorized dealer ng Wharfedale dito sa atin. Yung prices na naka post dito sa previous thread, san bang av store yun? At saka meron ba talagang available na Rosewood color dito kung sakali o-order ako.  Dito sa province namin may supplier ng Wharf at dun pa sya sa metro manila kumukuha. Nag-order ako ng center speaker 9.1cs. Gusto ko sana rosewood color pero sabi nga kinukunan nya dun sa manila black lang at saka cherry ang available. So tanong ko lang kung meron ba talagang available color na rosewood. Thanks for any info....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: DVD-KiD! on May 23, 2005 at 01:10 AM
Mga bro, anong store ba authorized dealer ng Wharfedale dito sa atin. Yung prices na naka post dito sa previous thread, san bang av store yun? At saka meron ba talagang available na Rosewood color dito kung sakali o-order ako.  Dito sa province namin may supplier ng Wharf at dun pa sya sa metro manila kumukuha. Nag-order ako ng center speaker 9.1cs. Gusto ko sana rosewood color pero sabi nga kinukunan nya dun sa manila black lang at saka cherry ang available. So tanong ko lang kung meron ba talagang available color na rosewood. Thanks for any info....

Bro, try to contact this number nalang (posted below) at ang pagkakaalam ko mayroon silang rosewood.

SIGHTS & SOUNDS AUDIO VIDEO
4th Level, Shangri-La Plaza Mall

638-3724
634-1789
634-1790
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: eagumban on May 23, 2005 at 09:13 AM
Hi, good choice to get a Diamond 9 DFS...  I will not settle for a WH2.  I'm still saving-up for a DFS.  Anyway, how much is it?  It's price range is 4300+.  Good luck and let us know when your set is complete.

Just inquired from Cebu, their price is 6K.  Anybody knows the price at Manila so that I can negotiate for a lower price. 
My setup is 7.1 (front: wharf 9.5, center: 9cs, sub: velodyne cht10, amp: yamaha 1500) but I'm lacking the side and back surround of wharfs.  I'm currently using my old speakers as surrounds. I'll post my comments when its complete. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: zakkaz on May 23, 2005 at 09:30 AM
Mga bro, anong store ba authorized dealer ng Wharfedale dito sa atin. Yung prices na naka post dito sa previous thread, san bang av store yun? At saka meron ba talagang available na Rosewood color dito kung sakali o-order ako.  Dito sa province namin may supplier ng Wharf at dun pa sya sa metro manila kumukuha. Nag-order ako ng center speaker 9.1cs. Gusto ko sana rosewood color pero sabi nga kinukunan nya dun sa manila black lang at saka cherry ang available. So tanong ko lang kung meron ba talagang available color na rosewood. Thanks for any info....
spectra audio video center @ parksquare 1 they've got almost the full sets of Diamond 9 speakers
tel 818-5493
ang alam ko nagkaroon cla ng rosewood dont know baka out of stock ngayong
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on May 23, 2005 at 12:50 PM
spectra audio video center @ parksquare 1 they've got almost the full sets of Diamond 9 speakers
tel 818-5493
ang alam ko nagkaroon cla ng rosewood dont know baka out of stock ngayong

Thanks mga bro sa info...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: edboy7 on May 23, 2005 at 07:02 PM
more reviews on the 9.6 :)
http://www.theabsolutesound.com/newsletter/153/wharfedale.htmll
http://www.audioadvisor.com/store/productdetailprint.asp?sku=WHARFD9.6C
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on May 24, 2005 at 01:05 PM
I am imagining myself getting the 9.6s.  :)  I can't help but smile to myself - papasabugin ko yung bahay kung meron ako nun!  So, 9.2 na lang ako... tama na yun sa akin!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on May 24, 2005 at 01:23 PM
Just inquired from Cebu, their price is 6K.  Anybody knows the price at Manila so that I can negotiate for a lower price. 
My setup is 7.1 (front: wharf 9.5, center: 9cs, sub: velodyne cht10, amp: yamaha 1500) but I'm lacking the side and back surround of wharfs.  I'm currently using my old speakers as surrounds. I'll post my comments when its complete. ;D

Hi, I grew-up in Cebu too!  What are the shops in Cebu carrying HT stuff?  Anyway, I got mine from The HomeTheater.  It's a good place to shop.  The owner is direct to the point - no fuss.  Actually, I've been to about 8 HT shops carrying Wharfes and The HomeTheater store gave me the cheapest - kahit 200 pesos ang difference, masaya na ako nun.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on May 24, 2005 at 03:17 PM
hi
we've got the complete series of Diamond 9  speakers including the subwoofer sw150, sw250, sw300 on display @ the exhibit area of Parksquare 1. it comes in different color
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bachwitz on May 24, 2005 at 03:18 PM
hi
we've got the complete series of Diamond 9  speakers including the subwoofer sw150, sw250, sw300 on display @ the exhibit area of Parksquare 1. it comes in different color

sir how much po sila?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on May 25, 2005 at 05:54 PM
sir how much po sila?
sw150 9000
sw250 20000
sw350 27500
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on May 25, 2005 at 08:52 PM
hi
we've got the complete series of Diamond 9  speakers including the subwoofer sw150, sw250, sw300 on display @ the exhibit area of Parksquare 1. it comes in different color

Uy nice up to when yun exhibit nyo sir?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on May 26, 2005 at 12:27 PM
Uy nice up to when yun exhibit nyo sir?
until end of June
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on May 29, 2005 at 09:15 PM
sir spectra,

pwede ba mag request nang tulong sayo kasi, segurado alam mo to eh.
Kasi my bro wants to buy Diamond 9 series dito at gusto nya raw e freight sa kanya. kaso lang di ko ma estimate yung cost of shipping. Dapat raw malaman ko kung ano ang DIMENSION at GROSS WEIGHT ng speakers na naka carton pa.

Can you furnish me the following information of these D9's: Diamond 9.6, Diamond 9.1, and Diamond 9.CM. 

a) DIMENSION, in mm or cm (WxDxH) of the carton/box of the speakers
b) GROSS WEIGHT, kg (the speakers plus the carton/packaging)

I believe is these information are indicated in the original packaging/carton.
 
Thanks in advance for any information you can share....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on May 30, 2005 at 11:04 AM
sir spectra,

pwede ba mag request nang tulong sayo kasi, segurado alam mo to eh.
Kasi my bro wants to buy Diamond 9 series dito at gusto nya raw e freight sa kanya. kaso lang di ko ma estimate yung cost of shipping. Dapat raw malaman ko kung ano ang DIMENSION at GROSS WEIGHT ng speakers na naka carton pa.

Can you furnish me the following information of these D9's: Diamond 9.6, Diamond 9.1, and Diamond 9.CM. 

a) DIMENSION, in mm or cm (WxDxH) of the carton/box of the speakers
b) GROSS WEIGHT, kg (the speakers plus the carton/packaging)

I believe is these information are indicated in the original packaging/carton.
 
Thanks in advance for any information you can share....
in cm , sorry the weight of the speakers are not indicated in the box as well as their manuals
9.6 40.5x31.5x119.5 for one speaker (1 pair of speaker 2 boxes, 1/box)
9.1 48x35x38.5
9CM 60x35x27.5
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on May 30, 2005 at 11:10 AM
from avguide's review,

9.6 - 20 kgs
9.1 - 5 kgs.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on May 30, 2005 at 12:26 PM
Salamat po sir Spectra and Bumblebee sa info ninyo.

By the way sir bumblebee ang weight ba na ibinigay, mo sa speaker lang po yon at sa bawat isa lang lang yun?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on May 30, 2005 at 12:50 PM
Salamat po sir Spectra and Bumblebee sa info ninyo.

By the way sir bumblebee ang weight ba na ibinigay, mo sa speaker lang po yon at sa bawat isa lang lang yun?

i've had the 9.1's and it seems 5 kgs each nga. so the 9.6's must be 20 kgs each rin. you really have to see those behemoths!!! if you're familiar w/ the b&w 602's, stack 3 of those. ganun kalaki :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Jun 03, 2005 at 05:42 PM
any comment/opinion between the diamond 9.1 and the 9.2? satellites will be partnered with a dtx 4.10 subs in a rather small room so i'm looking at the smaller 9.1.  i have read here glowing reviews about the 9.2, but find it rather large for my application. i'm just wondering if i will be missing anything if i go with the smaller 9.1, or if it will integrate nicely with the rather large 9.CS center. also, i'm of the opinion that the 5" 9.1 driver will give me better clarity and imaging. how about the diamond/yamaha rxv450 combo?

opinions please.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: zakkaz on Jun 04, 2005 at 11:37 AM
any comment/opinion between the diamond 9.1 and the 9.2? satellites will be partnered with a dtx 4.10 subs in a rather small room so i'm looking at the smaller 9.1.  i have read here glowing reviews about the 9.2, but find it rather large for my application. i'm just wondering if i will be missing anything if i go with the smaller 9.1, or if it will integrate nicely with the rather large 9.CS center. also, i'm of the opinion that the 5" 9.1 driver will give me better clarity and imaging. how about the diamond/yamaha rxv450 combo?

opinions please.  :)
if you want try go to spectra @ parksquare 1 they have exhibit ongoing and you can audition it
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 04, 2005 at 12:10 PM
any comment/opinion between the diamond 9.1 and the 9.2? satellites will be partnered with a dtx 4.10 subs in a rather small room so i'm looking at the smaller 9.1.  i have read here glowing reviews about the 9.2, but find it rather large for my application. i'm just wondering if i will be missing anything if i go with the smaller 9.1, or if it will integrate nicely with the rather large 9.CS center. also, i'm of the opinion that the 5" 9.1 driver will give me better clarity and imaging. how about the diamond/yamaha rxv450 combo?

opinions please.  :)

I don't think you miss anything if you choose 9.1 against 9.2 as long as you integrate it with your sub ( and proper adjustment ).. as for clarity and imaging no problem din its not with the driver size that dictates imaging and clarity its more on speaker design and the amp/preamp you use.

Yamaha x50 series and Diamond 9 hmmm have heard good news about this combo pero better audition it to make sure it suite your taste..

happy auditioning.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on Jun 08, 2005 at 01:12 PM
any comment/opinion between the diamond 9.1 and the 9.2? satellites will be partnered with a dtx 4.10 subs in a rather small room so i'm looking at the smaller 9.1.  i have read here glowing reviews about the 9.2, but find it rather large for my application. i'm just wondering if i will be missing anything if i go with the smaller 9.1, or if it will integrate nicely with the rather large 9.CS center. also, i'm of the opinion that the 5" 9.1 driver will give me better clarity and imaging. how about the diamond/yamaha rxv450 combo?

opinions please.  :)

Hi, I'm a happy owner of a RXV450 with 9.2  I initially wanted to get 9.1 since it was cheaper... but I was pursuaded to get 9.2 instead.  The shop owner said, 9.1's are good for surrounds, just a bit more, you can get the 9.2 which are really "bigger" than the other.  Well, there it is, I was actually surprised when I got my 9.2 - malaki nga talaga.

Now, my 9.2 are paired with the CS (not the CM - mahal kasi yung CM).  I'm saving up for the surrounds 9.2 DFS (tama ba yung model for the surrounds?).  All in all, Wharfes with rxv-450 and a dai-ichi 150Watt sub - good enough for me!

Let us know what you decided on!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: zakkaz on Jun 08, 2005 at 03:44 PM
Hi, I'm a happy owner of a RXV450 with 9.2  I initially wanted to get 9.1 since it was cheaper... but I was pursuaded to get 9.2 instead.  The shop owner said, 9.1's are good for surrounds, just a bit more, you can get the 9.2 which are really "bigger" than the other.  Well, there it is, I was actually surprised when I got my 9.2 - malaki nga talaga.

Now, my 9.2 are paired with the CS (not the CM - mahal kasi yung CM).  I'm saving up for the surrounds 9.2 DFS (tama ba yung model for the surrounds?).  All in all, Wharfes with rxv-450 and a dai-ichi 150Watt sub - good enough for me!

Let us know what you decided on!
9dfs smaller than the previous 8dfs
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on Jun 10, 2005 at 04:32 PM
Thanks for the tip on 8dfs vs 9dfs... but I'm settled with 9dfs so that I can safely say that I have Wharfes 9 as a set-up.

Hey, feedback... does an 8dfs really perform better than 9dfs?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Jun 17, 2005 at 11:00 AM
Heard a 9.6 paired with CJ EL84/RA1072 amp and all i can say was WOW!! Came out of the box which explains the stiffness of the mids but the high was open immediatly!  If i have the room for that monster, i'll gladly place it there. ANG LAKI!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 17, 2005 at 11:31 AM
Heard a 9.6 paired with CJ EL84/RA1072 amp and all i can say was WOW!! Came out of the box which explains the stiffness of the mids but the high was open immediatly!  If i have the room for that monster, i'll gladly place it there. ANG LAKI!  ;D

Slayer,

San mo na audition yan? ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Jun 17, 2005 at 01:27 PM
Sa Watt Hifi sir... chempo may bumili at pinapabreak-in samin.  ;D Eto setup sir..

Pre - RA1072
Power - Conrad Johnson EL84
IC - XLO
SC - XLO ER14

Pano pa kung mas maganda ang IC at speaker cable.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: eagumban on Jun 17, 2005 at 02:11 PM
Sa Watt Hifi sir... chempo may bumili at pinapabreak-in samin. ;D Eto setup sir..

Pre - RA1072
Power - Conrad Johnson EL84
IC - XLO
SC - XLO ER14

Pano pa kung mas maganda ang IC at speaker cable. ;D
Slayer,

Sorry pero newbie lang ako, ano ba yang IC at SC na sinasabi mo? ??? ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Jun 17, 2005 at 02:54 PM
IC - Interconnects
SC - Speaker Cable
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Jun 17, 2005 at 08:42 PM
slayer: di ba conrad johnson na el34 yung nasa watt hifi ? me iba nang kulay na avalbl ung 9.6?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: eagumban on Jun 20, 2005 at 12:44 PM
Slayer: Thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 21, 2005 at 09:49 AM
Sa Watt Hifi sir... chempo may bumili at pinapabreak-in samin.  ;D Eto setup sir..

Pre - RA1072
Power - Conrad Johnson EL84
IC - XLO
SC - XLO ER14

Pano pa kung mas maganda ang IC at speaker cable.  ;D

tagal na ko di nakapunta watt hifi.. hehehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 21, 2005 at 06:33 PM
Sa Watt Hifi sir... chempo may bumili at pinapabreak-in samin.  ;D Eto setup sir..

Pre - RA1072
Power - Conrad Johnson EL84
IC - XLO
SC - XLO ER14

Pano pa kung mas maganda ang IC at speaker cable.  ;D

Got unconfirmed report na malupet nga 9.6 hmmm dapat makapasyal sa audio shop. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Rhandz on Jun 22, 2005 at 01:14 AM
Newbie po mga kapatid!!! First time ko magsetup ng Separates. Medyo maliit lang budget kya i might get a Yamaha 450 as a AVR. Kaya ba idrive ng 450 yung 9.4 and 9.2? Napansin ko lang kasi na most of the AVR used in this forum is HK. Malayo ba difference nung dalawang AVR?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jun 22, 2005 at 08:36 AM
Newbie po mga kapatid!!! First time ko magsetup ng Separates. Medyo maliit lang budget kya i might get a Yamaha 450 as a AVR. Kaya ba idrive ng 450 yung 9.4 and 9.2? Napansin ko lang kasi na most of the AVR used in this forum is HK. Malayo ba difference nung dalawang AVR?

the hk have more power but both can drive the wharfs. have a listen to both amps and pick what's best for you.

no need for a complete setup at once. pick the best components you can afford and add on when budget permits.

you may want to visit spectra in park square 1. they carry yamaha's, hk's and wharfs.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 22, 2005 at 08:44 AM
Rhandz,

Bumblebee is right any of the AVR can drive them it just depend on your preference, best is audition this speaker with HK or Yamaha since both have different character in sound. 

happy auditioning..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: j_albert22 on Jun 22, 2005 at 11:33 AM
tagal na ko di nakapunta watt hifi.. hehehehe

wat are u waiting for tyak may bagong prospect ka na naman hehehhehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Jun 22, 2005 at 01:30 PM
bakit wala pong specs ang diamond 9.3 sa wharfedale website?

9.2 tapos 9.4 na agad?

care to share the specs?  TIA
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jun 22, 2005 at 01:48 PM
bakit wala pong specs ang diamond 9.3 sa wharfedale website?

9.2 tapos 9.4 na agad?

care to share the specs?  TIA

Diamond 9.3 specs (from brochure)

- Bass: 8" B/M
- Tweeter: 25 mm TEX
- Power Handling (Programme): 30-120W
- Impedance: 6 ohm
- Sensitivity 1W @ 1m: 88dB
- A/V Shield: Yes
- Frequency Range at -6 dB: 40Hz - 24kHz
- HF limit -10 dB: 44kHz
- Crossover Frequency: 2.0kHz
- Frequency Fb: 40Hz
- Dimensions: HxBxD 45 x 24.7 x 33.1 cm
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Jun 22, 2005 at 04:40 PM
bong,

meron masamang balak yan si Koya hihihihi
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Jun 22, 2005 at 05:53 PM
Papa,

Confirm yan!! Nagulat talaga kami ni Caloy... kung kasya lang sa kawarto ko yan sisikwatin ko yan!  ;D ANG LAKI!!

Got unconfirmed report na malupet nga 9.6 hmmm dapat makapasyal sa audio shop. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 22, 2005 at 08:10 PM
wat are u waiting for tyak may bagong prospect ka na naman hehehhehehe


Hehehehe di pwede SARS infected yun lugar..  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

peace caloy and elmo.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Jun 23, 2005 at 08:04 PM
sorry medyo off topic pero how the wharfedales compare to the gale speakers...


thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 23, 2005 at 09:33 PM
sorry medyo off topic pero how the wharfedales compare to the gale speakers...


thanks!

It depends ano amp gagamitin mo?

both are good speaker.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: odyopayl on Jun 24, 2005 at 09:04 AM
sorry medyo off topic pero how the wharfedales compare to the gale speakers...


thanks!
Hans is right it depends on the Amps you are going to use.......and many more factors. However, in my opinion these two brand speakers are not much for comparison.  Better audition it yourself.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iceman90a on Jun 26, 2005 at 10:32 AM
bakit di pa nya sinuggest na 9 series na rin yung fronts? baka may luma pa silang stocks ng 8 series na inuubos...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: zakkaz on Jun 26, 2005 at 12:18 PM
Can anyone suggest a Whar speaker combo specifically for movies?  Budget is P40k including receiver.  This is what one of the shops have suggested:

Yamaha RX-V450  P14,000
Diamond 8.3 Front  P6,800
Diamond 9.cs center  P4,500
Diamond 9.sr rear  P3,800
Dynaquest 12 subwoofer  P5,900

Total cost: P35,000.

I don't much about speakers but I do get very particular when it comes to surround sounds blending in smoothly during a movie.  Any of the above I should change?  I still have P5,000 headroom.
try going to spectra @ parksquare 1 the price of diamond 8 series are lower than the one above
if you're very particular with the surround sounds, why not go for the dfs much bigger than the sr
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Jun 29, 2005 at 10:37 AM
ok...im kinda isold in getting the diamond 9 series for my speakers or at least they're on top of my list because of their affordability...but which of the following amps would you recommend to drive them considering power, features and PRICE!  i'm initially getting the 9.2 or 9.4

HK AVR 130 - P17,900
Marantz SR4500 - P17,500
Yamaha RX-V 450 - P14,300
Yamaha RX-V 550 - P14,800

thank you so much...comments and suggestion are high appreciated!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Jairus on Jun 29, 2005 at 11:45 AM
Any of those receivers will match well with the Diamonds. 

In terms of Power, I would be biased with the HK (since I'm using one) because of its high-current design.  Although on paper, it would seem to have lower RMS rating than the other brands, you should hear how it performs and ecide for  yourself.

Features...I think the Hk130 is just 5.1 while the others are already 6.1 or 6.1-ready (correct me if I'm wrong).  It really depends on what system you want.

Price...I guess the Yamahas are the most affordable.

Bottomline...Get the one which sounds best to you.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Jun 29, 2005 at 02:43 PM
ok..thanks...

which shops carry the wharfs and marantz?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: zakkaz on Jun 29, 2005 at 04:33 PM
ok...im kinda isold in getting the diamond 9 series for my speakers or at least they're on top of my list because of their affordability...but which of the following amps would you recommend to drive them considering power, features and PRICE!  i'm initially getting the 9.2 or 9.4

HK AVR 130 - P17,900
Marantz SR4500 - P17,500
Yamaha RX-V 450 - P14,300
Yamaha RX-V 550 - P14,800

thank you so much...comments and suggestion are high appreciated!!!
try going to spectra so that you'll be able to audition it
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Jun 29, 2005 at 05:16 PM
wala po yatang marantz ang spectra...not sure
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Jun 29, 2005 at 05:34 PM
sent u pm. bring CD and DVD during audition. its fun!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jun 29, 2005 at 08:42 PM
wala po yatang marantz ang spectra...not sure

electronics depot carries marantz and wharfedale.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Rhandz on Jul 01, 2005 at 11:58 PM
Guys from the specs, mas mataas yung sensitivity nung 9.5 sa 9.4. It means na mas madaling idrive yung 9.5 kay sa 9.4? How come?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 02, 2005 at 12:13 PM
Guys from the specs, mas mataas yung sensitivity nung 9.5 sa 9.4. It means na mas madaling idrive yung 9.5 kay sa 9.4? How come?

i think the 9.4 is easier to drive because it only has one woofer vs the 9.5's 2 (w/c also explains why the 9.5 is louder). i think you should check a speaker's impedance rather than its sensitivity if you want to determine if it is an easy load or not.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: watson's box on Jul 02, 2005 at 12:18 PM
Hi, Im just new here...im looking for advice since iam planning to set up a mini theater in our house and i have considered using the following equipments:

diamond 9.4 for the fronts
diamond 9 CS
diamond DFS (4x for 7.1)
diamond sw150
marantz sr4500

Is this a good combination(the speakers and receiver)? I plan to use it in both music and movies... and is it better to use the DFS for the surround back channel rather than a diamond 9sr?

Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 03, 2005 at 08:41 PM
Hi, Im just new here...im looking for advice since iam planning to set up a mini theater in our house and i have considered using the following equipments:

diamond 9.4 for the fronts
diamond 9 CS
diamond DFS (4x for 7.1)
diamond sw150
marantz sr4500

Is this a good combination(the speakers and receiver)? I plan to use it in both music and movies... and is it better to use the DFS for the surround back channel rather than a diamond 9sr?

Thanks! :)

Marantz and Wharf are both on the warm side i learn that its better to partner gears that have different character, remember matching is important but the gear above are good already. ;D ;D

Welcome to pinoyDVD. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 03, 2005 at 08:44 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/P1030341.jpg)

Was able to hear this Wonderful speaker last Saturday at Jetok's house. :)

Would like to thanks Spectra. ;) ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 03, 2005 at 08:52 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/P1030345.jpg)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 03, 2005 at 09:32 PM
9.6 is BIG....

BIG in soundstage you'll notice the presentation is huge with the feeling of front row seat in a jazz concert the separation hay..you'll also hear the highs and mids that provide a sense of openness and airy feeling.

BIG in imaging considering its huge size this will impress you with it good definition, imaging that i thought mini monitor that are good for even with its 8" woofer trancient response is very good from rock, new wave to jazz sisiw play some drum track it will take your breath away.

BIG in VOCALS Love the sweet sweet mids tried male to female and the result is DA BEST maybe due to its separate midrange driver. ::) ::) ::)

btw gears used:
preamp - Consonance Basie preamp
amp - AMx tube amp
TT - GR-1 with Rega Bias cart/stylus
 
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/P1030343.jpg)

special thanks to spectra ulit.. ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Jul 03, 2005 at 09:35 PM
sana me ibang kulay available for the 9.6, btw anyone tried the 9.6 in a small room?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jerix on Jul 04, 2005 at 07:53 AM
Byutiful 9.6 ;D -- magkano ba yan ngayon mga sirs? tnx  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 04, 2005 at 08:35 AM
Byutiful 9.6 ;D -- magkano ba yan ngayon mga sirs? tnx  ;)

For 17k kakatuwa coz kakaiba ito sir. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 04, 2005 at 08:40 AM
sana me ibang kulay available for the 9.6, btw anyone tried the 9.6 in a small room?

Bro you can inquire with Spectra or your nearest suking audio shop. ;D ;D ;D alam ko meron pa iba color aside from the one we audition. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bhongskie on Jul 04, 2005 at 09:24 AM
Hi! newbie here as well.  :)

I was able to audition the 9.6 and for me it sounds very good especially the mids, very clear.  The 9.5 I think has the same sonic characteristics as the 9.6 but for my ears the only difference is that the 9.6 has clearer mids and more detail than the 9.5.  I don't exactly know the sonic terms to use but the 9.6 was superb.

Was able to compare it to MA B4, AE Evo 3 and Infinity Primus 360 (auditioned these at Achitectural Audio yesterday) and personally I think the 9.6 sounds better than these 3.  But then again that's a personal note.  And this surely is not an objective observation considering that I heard the speaker in different stores.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Jul 04, 2005 at 10:42 AM
impression ko sa 9.6:

out of the box, thin and dull yung base, neutral and mids, and the highs were smooth pero kulang sa sparkle.

after 3 hours of moderate volume level hooked up to a tuner, it started showing its potential. extended at transparent na yung highs pero smooth pa rin, never harsh or sibilant. yung vocals sa holy cole trio was handled with ease and composure, same with linda rondstant's what's new and sinatra's summerwind.

yung mids natural na natural walang coloration, i believe ito ang strength ng 9.6 considering it's size. imaging is excellent engaging ang vocals, guitars, and piano. big soundstage. we tried different genre of music like vivaldi's four seasons, led zep's moby dick, carol kidd's i thought about you, carl tjadr's guachi guaro, steely dan's gaucho, new order's blt, etc and the presentation was very good.

the base took longer to settle in, it's fast, punchy, and analytical but delivery is inconsistent. not bloomy or as forceful as i hope to be considering the size. maybe kailangan pa ng break in matigas pa yung woofer at kailangan medyo crank up the volume para lumabas yung magandang base.

for me this is value for money, maganda na design (similar to wharf's evo series), solid build quality, imposing appearance (huge), though it's not perfect but it performed with flying colors. exceptional yung naturalness ng mids and give the base a little more time to realize its full potential and you will have a speaker that is hard to beat at this price range.

looking forward to owning one.

akyatbundok ikaw naman mag review para malaman namin impression mo.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Audioboy on Jul 04, 2005 at 01:00 PM
better than B4?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: akyatbundok on Jul 04, 2005 at 08:13 PM
my turn.... (opinion only):

box dimensions are nicely proportional, size is just right in jetok's room, but maybe not in smaller rooms.... if it gets any shorter it would look fat.

i prefer the cherry finish (we tested beech)... rosewood would have been great but the 9's rosewood is too brown & dull unlike Pacific Evo's bright & reddish rosewood.

the tweeters are higher than ear-level; when listening at close distance it seems like the sound is higher, but only very slightly... hans tells me that it sounds fantastic just behind the sofa, but i'm too lazy to stand up.

the speaker does a bookshelf-like disappearing act, with sounds coming from a wide area behind the speakers, width & height have lifelike scale (maybe coz of the room?)... even if you look at the speakers the sound appears to be coming from the wall behind it.

imaging stays consistent during complex passages even when we turn up the volume, the scale just gets bigger... slight caveat: it does seem like it needs to be played a bit louder than usual for best results, but that may be because it's still in the break-in stage??  note: my "usual" volume may be lower than most people.

midrange: voice, sax & piano are wonderfully detailed and natural... i like the tone of female voices on Diamonds & AE -- warm and thick... sometimes it nails a voice (like holly cole's) and what comes out is magical.

bass is fast & tuneful, sometimes powerful but sometimes shy (break-in again?)  B4 has more bass so it sounds great with new wave (incredible for its small size)... but acoustic bass is fast & detailed with the 9.6 (incredible for its big size).... if anything i would like the woofer to loosen up more but not too much, and maybe a little bit more sparkle in the highs but as-is its already very good.... try listening to Pink Floyd "The Wall", its amazing.

(http://203.131.66.146:8080/photo65.jpg)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jcob on Jul 05, 2005 at 01:43 PM
Sir Akyat,

How does it (9.6) compares with your MS Floorstander. I really like to know, I already like the sound of your MS.

Thanks.

Jcob
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: akyatbundok on Jul 05, 2005 at 04:07 PM
jcob,

i didnt compare side-by-side but since i have a Diamond 9.1 i would "guess-timate" that the relative differences are:

highs: 9.6 is a little more laid back
mids: 9.6 is warmer and thicker
bass: 9.6 seems faster, not sure w/c has more

i like voices on the Diamonds than MS, probably an acquired taste since i used AE for a long time; female voices are more familiar to me, and more emotional..... that doesnt mean i dont like voices on the 908, i like it too.... when comparing 2 good products they sometimes have overlapping strengths & weaknesses; and sometimes conclusions are are thrown out the window when you play a different recording or use a different amp or room..... then there are other things such as budget and size that will determine the better choice (maybe WAF? impedance/sensitivity? resale value? etc etc etc).
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jcob on Jul 05, 2005 at 04:26 PM
Thanks sir. I guess I want to know the difference between different brands, specialy MS against Diamand 9. Ang hirap kasi i-audition and compare nito kasi mag kaibang store ang may dala.

So if you were to choose, ano pipiliin mo? MS908 or 9.6
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 05, 2005 at 05:39 PM
Thanks sir. I guess I want to know the difference between different brands, specialy MS against Diamand 9. Ang hirap kasi i-audition and compare nito kasi mag kaibang store ang may dala.

So if you were to choose, ano pipiliin mo? MS908 or 9.6


Bakit upgrade na ba agad sir??


musta pala di ka na pakita sa session.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Jul 05, 2005 at 05:49 PM
this 9.6 occurence got me logging back in here again. i just hope this will be all worth my while. hehehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jcob on Jul 05, 2005 at 06:01 PM

Bakit upgrade na ba agad sir??


musta pala di ka na pakita sa session.. ;D

Hindi naman sir, wala nga pang-upgrade. Nakaka-enganyo lang itong Diamond 9.6, imagine at 17k meron ka ng floorstander na maganda. And to think, it's $800 sa ibang bansa itong speaker na ito.

Hindi na nga ako nakakasama sa inyo. sama sana ako kila Dong noon, kaya lang late ko na nakita text nya eh. maybe next time sir.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 05, 2005 at 06:05 PM
Jcob,

Bro baka meron sa bundok this Sat. pero pa confirm pa natin kay Chief. ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: watson's box on Jul 06, 2005 at 12:47 PM
Marantz and Wharf are both on the warm side i learn that its better to partner gears that have different character, remember matching is important but the gear above are good already. ;D ;D

Welcome to pinoyDVD. ;D

Thanks for the info! i would just like to know the optimum height for the surround speakers (DFS) if a listener is in a sitting position... i have read alot of suggestions for this say, 1m while the others suggest 1.5m and another audio store suggested that it should be directly leveled with your ear. Which one sounds best for the DFS?

Thanks again! :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Jul 06, 2005 at 02:07 PM
I read somewhere that at least 6ft from the ground or 2ft above the ear level.   Positioning is also important... for DFS, there are those who like it on the side than at the rear end of the room.  Try to experiment first without mounting it permanently and hear/see if what position do you like. Goodluck!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: watson's box on Jul 06, 2005 at 02:18 PM
oh i see, cge thanks for the info! i try them out as soon as i buy my system. im currently setting up kase the place. Pag naayos na, dun ko lang bibilin ung system :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Jul 06, 2005 at 03:11 PM
And while you're at it... determine your viewing/listening position as against the room dimension and size... Dipole /DFS is usually for proportionate rooms so you bounce the sound on the walls while bookshelf can be dynamic in terms of application by.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jerix on Jul 06, 2005 at 03:15 PM
I read somewhere that at least 6ft from the ground or 2ft above the ear level.   Positioning is also important... for DFS, there are those who like it on the side than at the rear end of the room.  Try to experiment first without mounting it permanently and hear/see if what position do you like. Goodluck!

Yeah, principles on speaker placement talked about here come mostly from experiences of enthusiasts.

For me the sound experience is best when the fronts, center and surrounds are at the same level with my ears, that is:

fronts/center ---------- ears ---------- surrounds

For me, this set up allows smoother flow of the fly around effects  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Jul 06, 2005 at 03:23 PM
Great! Kanya-kanya lang talaga ang preferrences... we have all this infos for us to try and figure out how we wanted it _our_ way.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Jul 06, 2005 at 04:13 PM
pano sir yung center di ba haharang sa view pag ear level  ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 06, 2005 at 04:19 PM
pano sir yung center di ba haharang sa view pag ear level  ???

The TV may have been placed above the level of the speakers. There is really no rule in this hobby. Kung saan tayo masaya, dun tayo dapat.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 06, 2005 at 07:51 PM
pano sir yung center di ba haharang sa view pag ear level  ???

Usually above the tv yun center mo so better tilt it down towards the listeners ears para focus yun dialogue..

DFS try to sit down tapos reach up your arm dun height pwede mo try place yun speaker..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jerix on Jul 07, 2005 at 10:24 AM
pano sir yung center di ba haharang sa view pag ear level  ???

Tama si Hans "tilt it" -- pero sa akin i use 2 center speakers, 1 on top of the TV , 1 below - the effect is better as the two speakers pulls the sound towards dead center of the TV  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Jul 07, 2005 at 01:25 PM
Tama si Hans "tilt it" -- pero sa akin i use 2 center speakers, 1 on top of the TV , 1 below - the effect is better as the two speakers pulls the sound towards dead center of the TV  ;)

ok ito sir ah, masubukan nga din ;) hehehe...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Jul 07, 2005 at 07:10 PM
how does the 9.4 compare to the 9.2?


some say that the 9.4 is more boomy because of the bigger enclosure?  bigger nga ba or parang meron lang built-in stand?


comments please...thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 07, 2005 at 10:41 PM
how does the 9.4 compare to the 9.2?


some say that the 9.4 is more boomy because of the bigger enclosure?  bigger nga ba or parang meron lang built-in stand?


comments please...thanks!


Depende sa room mo best is audition them experienced ko i own 9.2 oks naman sya with small to medium size room yun 9.4 ( meron uncle ko ) oks din sa 6 x 7mtrs room di naman boomy pero bare naman yun room nya no carpet or drapes minsan kasi due to other thing or furniture sa room mo that help add color (bass ) sa speakers.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ake on Jul 08, 2005 at 12:08 AM
May I ask price udates on the Diamond 9 series?
9.6 - ???
And where is the best shop to buy it, where can I buy it cheapest?

thanks guys
ake
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Jul 08, 2005 at 07:55 AM
Tama si Hans "tilt it" -- pero sa akin i use 2 center speakers, 1 on top of the TV , 1 below - the effect is better as the two speakers pulls the sound towards dead center of the TV  ;)

sir, papaano ang connection nito as avr ang ganitong setup? thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: watson's box on Jul 08, 2005 at 09:45 AM
Hi, has any one tried bi-wiring a diamond 9 with a marantz sr4500? how does it sound as compared to a regular connection? Im trying to find out which connection i would make before i buy the cables.

thanks! :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 08, 2005 at 10:19 AM
Hi, has any one tried bi-wiring a diamond 9 with a marantz sr4500? how does it sound as compared to a regular connection? Im trying to find out which connection i would make before i buy the cables.

thanks! :)

http://pinoydvd.com/content/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=28&expv=0&topic=1879.0

http://www.audioholics.com/FAQs/000524_biamping_biwiring.php
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 11, 2005 at 04:21 PM
Post ko lang ito hehehe kawawa naman walng thread for my Evo30 hehehehhe

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/5a87bd02.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/f2976e74.jpg)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 11, 2005 at 04:35 PM
Sir Hans,

Ang ganda!!! Iba talaga pag real wood.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 11, 2005 at 04:39 PM
Sir Hans,

Ang ganda!!! Iba talaga pag real wood.


Thanks pati ata sa sound iba din.. I think?? ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 11, 2005 at 04:47 PM
In action... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/7dcd76b8.jpg)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ZEPHYR on Jul 11, 2005 at 11:04 PM
In action... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/7dcd76b8.jpg)

Oy nakarating na pala sa bundok yang evo mo bro. Tagal na talaga ako wala sa sirkulasyon. Sayang hindi ako nakasama sa inyo gusto ko pa naman marinig sana yan evo mo o alin man sa mga diamond series 9 lalo na yung 9.2 o 9.6 kung pude ipareha dun sa ST70  ;D

Umaandar na naman ata yung SARS dito. Teka maka hibernate na muli at hindi pa ako fully paid kay Kimpao masasabak na naman ako  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: watson's box on Jul 12, 2005 at 01:14 PM
Help!

I just came from Spectra last week and now i have a dilema on which receiver am i to buy for the diamond 9's im planning to get... mukhang ok din kase ung yamaha rxv650...although mas mahal nag kaunti. Which one is the better receiver in terms of everything? Marantz sr4500 or the yamaha? anyone with a 650 matched with a 650?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: akyatbundok on Jul 12, 2005 at 01:23 PM
Sir Akyat,

How does it (9.6) compares with your MS Floorstander. I really like to know, I already like the sound of your MS.

Thanks.

Jcob

jcob, update lang......

i brought my MS-908 to jetok's place to listen to Pink Floyd "The Wall" LP, so i was able to listen to the same room/setup used in the 9.6 audition...... and i hate to say this but...... tinalo ng 9.6 ang speaker ko huhuhuhu :'(  i really hope na makabawi ang 908 sa ibang album but i'm not that confident.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jerix on Jul 12, 2005 at 02:39 PM
Tama si Hans "tilt it" -- pero sa akin i use 2 center speakers, 1 on top of the TV , 1 below - the effect is better as the two speakers pulls the sound towards dead center of the TV 

sir, papaano ang connection nito as avr ang ganitong setup? thanks for sharing.

Bro Chatstix -- just connected them on SERIES. My receiver can handle up to 16 ohms -- got two 8 ohms center speakers and connecting them on SERIES sums them up into 16 ohms  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Jul 12, 2005 at 05:18 PM
another review of the diamond 9.5 by cnet:

http://reviews.cnet.com/Wharfedale_Diamond_9_5_black/4505-7869_7-31413489.html?tag=cnetfd.sd
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Jul 12, 2005 at 05:20 PM
Bro Chatstix -- just connected them on SERIES. My receiver can handle up to 16 ohms -- got two 8 ohms center speakers and connecting them on SERIES sums them up into 16 ohms  ;D

thanks bro jerix for the instruction.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 12, 2005 at 05:33 PM
Help!

I just came from Spectra last week and now i have a dilema on which receiver am i to buy for the diamond 9's im planning to get... mukhang ok din kase ung yamaha rxv650...although mas mahal nag kaunti. Which one is the better receiver in terms of everything? Marantz sr4500 or the yamaha? anyone with a 650 matched with a 650?

Kung more on HT ka go with Yamaha pag Audio naman eh Marantz pero both are good AVR sa preference mo na lang makakatalo..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 12, 2005 at 05:36 PM
Oy nakarating na pala sa bundok yang evo mo bro. Tagal na talaga ako wala sa sirkulasyon. Sayang hindi ako nakasama sa inyo gusto ko pa naman marinig sana yan evo mo o alin man sa mga diamond series 9 lalo na yung 9.2 o 9.6 kung pude ipareha dun sa ST70  ;D

Umaandar na naman ata yung SARS dito. Teka maka hibernate na muli at hindi pa ako fully paid kay Kimpao masasabak na naman ako  :D

Bro must hear yun 9.6 lalo na sa ST70.. baka magST70 + LS3/5 ang dating ng vocals mo.. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: watson's box on Jul 13, 2005 at 08:59 AM
Kung more on HT ka go with Yamaha pag Audio naman eh Marantz pero both are good AVR sa preference mo na lang makakatalo..

Okie, thanks! parang mas gusto ko na now ung yamaha paired with diamond 9's kse pang movies ko sana gagamitin....hindi ba sha ganun ka ganda sa audio as compared to marantz?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 13, 2005 at 09:10 AM
Okie, thanks! parang mas gusto ko na now ung yamaha paired with diamond 9's kse pang movies ko sana gagamitin....hindi ba sha ganun ka ganda sa audio as compared to marantz?

Don't expect a night and day difference between the 2 amps. Yamahas are known to be bright, "good" for movies. The Marantz's are warm, "good" for music.

The listener should decide what's "good". And when is "good", "good" enough.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 13, 2005 at 09:18 AM
AVReview reviews Wharfedale Diamond 9 surround speaker system.

http://www.avreview.co.uk/news/article.asp?UAN=330
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Jairus on Jul 13, 2005 at 09:32 AM
How does the 9.5 compare with the 9.6? Is the 5k price difference worth it?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bebot santos on Jul 13, 2005 at 12:38 PM
kita ko na un evo 30 ni sir hans, and napakinggan na din,, wanefff swabe lalo't de tubes ang gamit mo... benta mo na yan sir hans,, laki na ng face value nyan heheheh jk!! :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 13, 2005 at 01:32 PM
Don't expect a night and day difference between the 2 amps. Yamahas are known to be bright, "good" for movies. The Marantz's are warm, "good" for music.

The listener should decide what's "good". And when is "good", "good" enough.

Tama si bumblebee pero also remember yun room na where you plan to setup your gears LAKI ng influence sa sound. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 13, 2005 at 01:37 PM
kita ko na un evo 30 ni sir hans, and napakinggan na din,, wanefff swabe lalo't de tubes ang gamit mo... benta mo na yan sir hans,, laki na ng face value nyan heheheh jk!! :D

Bebot,

Di na pwede for sale yan walang bibili hehehe sayang nga at di ko pa na side by side sa 9.6.. pero i doubt na kakayanin yun ganda and sweetness ng 9.6 sa vocals :'( :'( :'( :'( Evo 30 kasi neutral and natural. :) :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 13, 2005 at 01:39 PM
How does the 9.5 compare with the 9.6? Is the 5k price difference worth it?

Yan di pa namin na side by side hehehehe ma schedule nga yan.. hehehehehe we only got to hear the 9.6 itself dati naman 9.2 and 9.4. :) kaya tuloy napa 9.2 ako  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

My experience with Wharf dapat talaga ma warm up kasi initial sound nya talaga malabo minsan pero after 2 to 3 hours hehehe ewan ko na lang kung sabihin pangit pa yan.. ;D ;D ;D parang diesel engine. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 13, 2005 at 01:52 PM
Yan di pa namin na side by side hehehehe ma schedule nga yan.. hehehehehe we only got to hear the 9.6 itself dati naman 9.2 and 9.4. :) kaya tuloy napa 9.2 ako  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Sir Hans,

Paki na lang yung 9.5 vs 9.6 ;D

Ito naman ang gusto ko sa wharfs. Kahit flagship na, affordable pa rin :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 13, 2005 at 02:51 PM
Sir Hans,

Paki na lang yung 9.5 vs 9.6 ;D

Ito naman ang gusto ko sa wharfs. Kahit flagship na, affordable pa rin :)

Sama ka minsan sa session PM kita...  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 13, 2005 at 03:15 PM
Sama ka minsan sa session PM kita...  ;) ;) ;)

Uy, thanks for the invite :D Sana lang hindi ako busy :'(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Jul 15, 2005 at 09:06 AM
Uy, thanks for the invite :D Sana lang hindi ako busy :'(

Definitely mag-eenjoy ka at marami kang matututunan...  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Jul 15, 2005 at 01:05 PM
ingat ka lng bro....  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 15, 2005 at 01:45 PM
ingat ka lng bro....  ;D ;D ;D

Bakit meron ba loko sa session?? ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Jul 15, 2005 at 02:36 PM
ingat ka lng bro....  ;D ;D ;D

Ingat saan?  ???   
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Jul 15, 2005 at 04:32 PM
nagkakahawaan kasi ng sakit do'n! . . . karamihan napupunta doon . . . nahahawaan din ng sakit
. . .
. . .
SARS  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 15, 2005 at 05:06 PM
nagkakahawaan kasi ng sakit do'n! . . . karamihan napupunta doon . . . nahahawaan din ng sakit
. . .
. . .
SARS  ;D

hahahahaha ayos yan bro..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on Jul 15, 2005 at 07:30 PM
AVReview reviews Wharfedale Diamond 9 surround speaker system.

http://www.avreview.co.uk/news/article.asp?UAN=330

Thanks for the update... Nice read especially when I don't have surrounds yet and am still planning to get one... debating on risking for a wh-2 or a 9SR.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Jul 16, 2005 at 07:48 PM
Hi, I am a new and proud owner of 9.4 (2nd hand but good as new) my questions are, what are the difference between and 9.6 and 9.4? Any tips where to buy cheap bi-wired speaker cables for my 9.4? thanks bros... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 17, 2005 at 08:14 PM
Hi, I am a new and proud owner of 9.2 (2nd hand but good as new) my questions are, what are the difference between and 9.6 and 9.4? Any tips where to buy cheap bi-wired speaker cables for my 9.4? thanks bros... ;D

Bro congrats sa 9.2 as for wires i bought from spectra wire na 4pcs (red/yello/white&black) na yun laman inside the jacket forgot the brand parang puresonic ata color grey yun jacket nya.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Jul 18, 2005 at 05:53 AM
Hi, I am a new and proud owner of 9.2 (2nd hand but good as new) my questions are, what are the difference between and 9.6 and 9.4? Any tips where to buy cheap bi-wired speaker cables for my 9.4? thanks bros... ;D

bro congrats, mukhang alam ko binabalak mo, ;) may nakuha kana bang amp?
invite ka naman sa inyo... hehehe..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Jul 18, 2005 at 08:01 PM
bro congrats, mukhang alam ko binabalak mo, ;) may nakuha kana bang amp?
invite ka naman sa inyo... hehehe..

oops mga pre, sorry wrong post 9.4 pala nde 9.2 (edited my previous post) yung nakuha ko eh yung speaker ni pareng vhongbiker..

sir vhong, text me pag nakuha mo na yung balanse..nadeposito na kanina..thanks pare..
enjoy na enjoy talaga ako dito sa 9.4 mo...jackpot ako dito..hehehe


sir hans,how much kuha mo sa bi-wire speaker cables? salamat, salamat sa pagbati..

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Jul 19, 2005 at 01:05 PM
question po...

how close can i put the 9.1 or 9.2 near my tv?  planning to just have a customized tv rack instead of buying separate speaker stands.

would one inch distance between tv and speaker suffice na? magnetically sheilded naman yung speakers di ba?

salamat po
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 19, 2005 at 01:09 PM
Yes, they are shielded. If you can't find any distortion on the TV w/ the 1" distance, you'll be fine.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 19, 2005 at 01:15 PM
oops mga pre, sorry wrong post 9.4 pala nde 9.2 (edited my previous post) yung nakuha ko eh yung speaker ni pareng vhongbiker..

sir vhong, text me pag nakuha mo na yung balanse..nadeposito na kanina..thanks pare..
enjoy na enjoy talaga ako dito sa 9.4 mo...jackpot ako dito..hehehe


sir hans,how much kuha mo sa bi-wire speaker cables? salamat, salamat sa pagbati..



Bro mura lang yun wires tawag ka na lang kay spectra..8185493 look for Jim or Leslie. :D

sir break in stage pa yan mas masarap makinig after 3 hours na warm up kasi medyo lose na yun woofer maririnig mo na yun true sound nya. ;) ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 19, 2005 at 01:23 PM
I was at spectra yesterday with Jetok, Akyatbundok and Narayan checking out there new listening room hehehehe.


Congrats Spectra..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Jul 19, 2005 at 01:54 PM
wala nga ako experience e...kasi wala pa yung mga gamit.


sir kayo...based on experience how far should the speaker be from the TV?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 19, 2005 at 01:57 PM
wala nga ako experience e...kasi wala pa yung mga gamit.


sir kayo...based on experience how far should the speaker be from the TV?

I didn't have problems when i placed my 9.1's on top of the TV rack w/c is about 6" from the TV.

What I meant with my post was to try the 1" distance tapos kung may distortion, ilayo mo ng kaunti hanggang sa mawala.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Jul 19, 2005 at 02:23 PM
ay ganun! syet...6 inches


im working on veru limited space kaya max distance ng speakers from the tv is about 2 inches lang e.  hayyyy!  hirap ng maliit na space talaga!


baka pwede nyo naman experiment if meron distortion at 1 inch distance.  im banking on the fact that others dont experience when they palce their center channel on top of their TVs...therefore 1-2 inches away from the TV should also work  ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 19, 2005 at 02:28 PM
Asul,

Kung center speaker no problem ka dyan as for fronts kung spec nya magnetically shielded then wag magalala.. tsaka in case you place your fronts beside the TV minutes lang magdiscolor na yun side where the speakers is place.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Jul 19, 2005 at 07:34 PM
Bro mura lang yun wires tawag ka na lang kay spectra..8185493 look for Jim or Leslie. :D

sir break in stage pa yan mas masarap makinig after 3 hours na warm up kasi medyo lose na yun woofer maririnig mo na yun true sound nya. ;) ;)

ok sir will call them tomorrow...thanks sir hans  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Jul 20, 2005 at 06:22 AM
oops mga pre, sorry wrong post 9.4 pala nde 9.2 (edited my previous post) yung nakuha ko eh yung speaker ni pareng vhongbiker..

sir vhong, text me pag nakuha mo na yung balanse..nadeposito na kanina..thanks pare..
enjoy na enjoy talaga ako dito sa 9.4 mo...jackpot ako dito..hehehe


sir hans,how much kuha mo sa bi-wire speaker cables? salamat, salamat sa pagbati..


bro nakuha ko na.
thank you....  ;)






Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: watson's box on Jul 20, 2005 at 10:38 AM
any one here who has experienced supplementing their diamond system with a bass shaker? ok ba un?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Jairus on Jul 20, 2005 at 10:57 AM
Any system, kahit hindi Diamond. would benefit from a bass shaker especially in movies ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Jul 20, 2005 at 07:46 PM


ok pre... thanks din..hanggang sa muli... ;D
Title: wharfedale 9.6 owners club
Post by: rossifumi46 on Jul 20, 2005 at 09:22 PM
 ;D merun bang ganito? ang dami kaseng fans ng speaker na to:) hahaha
ps i dont work for nor am i related to any store distributing wharfedale... si KOYA ata... haha joke lang koya
Title: Re: wharfedale 9.6 owners club
Post by: john5479 on Jul 20, 2005 at 09:47 PM
If i had the room I would buy these babies in a whim...so admirer lang ako hehe ;D
Title: Re: wharfedale 9.6 owners club
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 22, 2005 at 07:10 AM
;D merun bang ganito? ang dami kaseng fans ng speaker na to:) hahaha
ps i dont work for nor am i related to any store distributing wharfedale... si KOYA ata... haha joke lang koya

Loko mo migs ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D.... di ako connected sa any audio shop meron lang ako suki shop.. ;D ;D ;D

Bili na kasi.. o meron ka na 9.6 kaya naghahanap ka ng member..

pssst wait mo lang lalabas din yun isa.. ;) ;)
Title: Re: wharfedale 9.6 owners club
Post by: rossifumi46 on Jul 22, 2005 at 07:50 AM
Loko mo migs ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D.... di ako connected sa any audio shop meron lang ako suki shop.. ;D ;D ;D

Bili na kasi.. o meron ka na 9.6 kaya naghahanap ka ng member..

pssst wait mo lang lalabas din yun isa.. ;) ;)

anung isa?:)
Title: Re: wharfedale 9.6 owners club
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 22, 2005 at 03:25 PM
anung isa?:)


Easy ka lang lalabas din yan.. ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: wharfedale 9.6 owners club
Post by: kimosabe on Jul 22, 2005 at 03:53 PM
wala bang Scoop Scoop  ::) ;D
Title: Re: wharfedale 9.6 owners club
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 22, 2005 at 06:56 PM
wala bang Scoop Scoop  ::) ;D


pssst sa kabila meron.. ;)
Title: Re: wharfedale 9.6 owners club
Post by: Superman on Jul 22, 2005 at 07:57 PM
hey, if you want a "group buy" just let me know...my source can give a good price...thanks!
Title: Re: wharfedale 9.6 owners club
Post by: rossifumi46 on Jul 23, 2005 at 08:27 AM
wow group buy?!! hahaha ok discount niyan!:)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on Jul 24, 2005 at 10:43 AM
Hi Letor,

I have an 8.1 and was able to listen to 9.1 at sights and sounds (Shangrila).  Based on my few minutes of listening to the 9.1, the most noticable difference between the two is in the bass region.  The 9.1 has more bass than the 8.1.  The mid and high section is almost the same.  Maybe the 9.0 will be equivalent to the 8.1 (haven't listened to the 9.0 though) but the 9.1 is, for me, better than 8.1.  To add to that, the 9.1 is already product of the year sa What HiFi magazine.  Now, I'm seriously considering the 9.1 as against to my earlier preference, the 9.6 >:( >:( Just my opinion.

losi_phile


Finally i got a chance to test the 9.1 vs the 8.1. Using the same rotel amp and music:
Observations:
D9.1:
Better bass response (+factor)
Fast transient response (+factor)
More spacious soundstage than 8.1 (+factor)
Vocals quite thinner compared to 8.1 (- factor)

The 8.1 has a warmer and natural vocal sound especially male voices.

Conclusion:

D9.1 - good for instrumentals and instrumental jazz music
D8.1 - good for music with emphasis on vocals.

just my observation.








Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Superman on Jul 25, 2005 at 09:22 AM
congrats to the new diamond 9.6 owner! paramdam ka naman! :D :D :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 25, 2005 at 05:09 PM
Finally i got a chance to test the 9.1 vs the 8.1. Using the same rotel amp and music:
Observations:
D9.1:
Better bass response (+factor)
Fast transient response (+factor)
More spacious soundstage than 8.1 (+factor)
Vocals quite thinner compared to 8.1 (- factor)

The 8.1 has a warmer and natural vocal sound especially male voices.

Conclusion:

D9.1 - good for instrumentals and instrumental jazz music
D8.1 - good for music with emphasis on vocals.

just my observation.











Nice review..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Jul 25, 2005 at 05:18 PM
oo nga kung sino man ung me 9.6 congrats ;D
Title: RE: Diamond 9.6
Post by: Arnel E. on Jul 25, 2005 at 11:29 PM
Thinking of getting a Diamond 9.6.................. :)
Title: Re: wharfedale 9.6 owners club
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 26, 2005 at 01:53 PM
wow group buy?!! hahaha ok discount niyan!:)


hmmmm bili ka na kasi wag na mag-antay.. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: backdraft on Jul 27, 2005 at 11:24 AM
mga sir, im planning to upgrade my diamond 8.4 to a bookshelf maybe 9.2. OK ba tong 9.2 compared to 8.4, what are the differences, I know the number 1 fact would be the bass reproduction pero a sub would take care of it. tama po ba? and any recommendation for other models or brands in the same price range of the 9.2.

maraming salamat  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 27, 2005 at 04:14 PM
mga sir, im planning to upgrade my diamond 8.4 to a bookshelf maybe 9.2. OK ba tong 9.2 compared to 8.4, what are the differences, I know the number 1 fact would be the bass reproduction pero a sub would take care of it. tama po ba? and any recommendation for other models or brands in the same price range of the 9.2.

maraming salamat  ;D

Bro,

Hirap compare yun dalawa kasi bookshelf and floorstander.. audition is the best answer kasi like 9.2 eventhough bookshelf meron enough bass for some music pero for head banging time sub na kailangan mo usually advantage ng bookshelf is better imaging and vocals as compare to floorstander but i'm not saying all floorstander can't do the magic that bookshelf do.. pero from my experience from floorstander to bookshelf you'll notice something missing hehehehe yun bass.

Audition mo lang sir.. :)   
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Superman on Jul 27, 2005 at 04:27 PM
hans, post mo na kasi yung pics nung bago mo, hehehehehe! :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Jul 27, 2005 at 06:24 PM
At sinong mama yung may bagong 9.6?  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: backdraft on Jul 28, 2005 at 08:47 AM
Bro,

Hirap compare yun dalawa kasi bookshelf and floorstander.. audition is the best answer kasi like 9.2 eventhough bookshelf meron enough bass for some music pero for head banging time sub na kailangan mo usually advantage ng bookshelf is better imaging and vocals as compare to floorstander but i'm not saying all floorstander can't do the magic that bookshelf do.. pero from my experience from floorstander to bookshelf you'll notice something missing hehehehe yun bass.

Audition mo lang sir.. :)   

thanks sir hans, audition lang talaga kailangan.

eto naman ser, ano naman magandang speaker stand na below 3K lang sana and san meron.

thanks ulit  ;D

teka sino ba may bago, reviews and pektyur naman, hehehe >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 28, 2005 at 09:07 PM
thanks sir hans, audition lang talaga kailangan.

eto naman ser, ano naman magandang speaker stand na below 3K lang sana and san meron.

thanks ulit  ;D

teka sino ba may bago, reviews and pektyur naman, hehehe >:D >:D >:D

Kahit anong brand basta mabigat ako gamit ko sa 9.2 perfect view lang got for 1,200 second hand hehehehehe..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 28, 2005 at 09:11 PM
hans, post mo na kasi yung pics nung bago mo, hehehehehe! :D :D :D :D :D

Superman,

Sir wala akong bagong toys... si jack bawaw meron.. ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Superman on Jul 29, 2005 at 10:50 AM
Kahit anong brand basta mabigat ako gamit ko sa 9.2 perfect view lang got for 1,200 second hand hehehehehe..

may 9.2 ka pala eh!!! :D :D :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Jul 29, 2005 at 12:47 PM
meron ba warranty and speakers...if get them from your suking audio shops?



thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimosabe on Jul 29, 2005 at 01:12 PM
meron ba warranty and speakers...if get them from your suking audio shops?



thanks!

Yup, meron yatang topic dito, i forgot lang kung saan, regarding audio shops na madaling kausapin kung sakaling lemon nakuha mong speakers.  Meron kasing shop na pababalik balikin ka  >:(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Jul 29, 2005 at 03:08 PM
ok salamat...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: joedancy on Aug 01, 2005 at 05:40 AM
sir.....

that will be of great help to us.... we appreciate it really sir.

till the 2nd week of oct sir...... i would recommend 9.4s. i own a pair. i had b&w before,ok for classical music, didnt rock! 9.4s rock, and beethoven sounds great too. regards
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shotgun on Aug 01, 2005 at 09:03 AM
Hi guys,

Any feedback of the session on 9.5 vs. 9.6? I know dapat ako ang mag audition, but I'd like some reviews from other guys. I'm thinking of getting fronts to start of my HT. It'll be powered by a Marantz 4500.

I auditioned 9.4s in Sights and Sounds and they seemed 'boomy' to me (powered by a Denon).... am I hearing them right? Wouldn't the 9.5 and 9.6 be just as or even more boomy? I'm more of a music guy. Would a 9.2 and SW combo sound better?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 01, 2005 at 03:04 PM
Hi guys,

Any feedback of the session on 9.5 vs. 9.6? I know dapat ako ang mag audition, but I'd like some reviews from other guys. I'm thinking of getting fronts to start of my HT. It'll be powered by a Marantz 4500.

I auditioned 9.4s in Sights and Sounds and they seemed 'boomy' to me (powered by a Denon).... am I hearing them right? Wouldn't the 9.5 and 9.6 be just as or even more boomy? I'm more of a music guy. Would a 9.2 and SW combo sound better?

Try spectra they have both 9.5 and 9.6 on display bring along your marantz tapos request mo dun sa new listening room nila to have a critical listening i'm sure meron ka mauuwi.. ;D

I recomend dun sa listening room kasi controlled yun room so you'll hear agad difference nilang dalawa. :) :) :)

look for Leslie or Jim.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shotgun on Aug 01, 2005 at 03:21 PM
Okay thanks! I'll visit them tomorrow.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 01, 2005 at 05:24 PM
may 9.2 ka pala eh!!! :D :D :D

Superman,

Tagal na yan. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 02, 2005 at 06:28 PM
Okay thanks! I'll visit them tomorrow.

audition lang bro...

WAG maniwala sa sabi sabi...  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: earfull on Aug 06, 2005 at 10:47 PM
Hi guys! Just joined and saw this thead. Got the 9.4 two weeks ago with the help of Superman. Great service! The speakers were shipped to me in Baguio a day after ordering.

The speakers sounded good out of the box and improves everyday, it seems. After 10 days, I felt the mid highs had some glare. I changed the PBJ interconnects (dac > amp) with a friend's Madrigal IC (don't really know what model - its only a half meter) and immediately the sound smoothened. Great sound!

Since the 9.4 is not tall enough for the tweeter to be at ear level, I asked a carpenter to make a simple box (10"w x 12"d x 6"h), placed a 1 inch thick marble block (10"w x 12"d) on top of it, then placed the spiked speakers on top of the marble block. Perfect height, nice soundstage.

I'm quite happy with the setup which I'll list in case you can give advice /suggestions on how else to improve it:
Pioneer PD-T03 cdp > toslink (spdif not available) > MAudio Superdac > Madrigal IC > NADC320BEE > Midnight Plus > Diamond 9.4.

I've enjoyed going through the threads and have learned a lot which prompted me to share my experience. Hope it can be of use to someone.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Aug 08, 2005 at 05:54 AM
Hi guys! Just joined and saw this thead. Got the 9.4 two weeks ago with the help of Superman. Great service! The speakers were shipped to me in Baguio a day after ordering.

The speakers sounded good out of the box and improves everyday, it seems. After 10 days, I felt the mid highs had some glare. I changed the PBJ interconnects (dac > amp) with a friend's Madrigal IC (don't really know what model - its only a half meter) and immediately the sound smoothened. Great sound!

Since the 9.4 is not tall enough for the tweeter to be at ear level, I asked a carpenter to make a simple box (10"w x 12"d x 6"h), placed a 1 inch thick marble block (10"w x 12"d) on top of it, then placed the spiked speakers on top of the marble block. Perfect height, nice soundstage.


nice review bro.
kindly post new looks ng 9.4 mo. ;)

I'm quite happy with the setup which I'll list in case you can give advice /suggestions on how else to improve it:
Pioneer PD-T03 cdp > toslink (spdif not available) > MAudio Superdac > Madrigal IC > NADC320BEE > Midnight Plus > Diamond 9.4.

I've enjoyed going through the threads and have learned a lot which prompted me to share my experience. Hope it can be of use to someone.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Audioboy on Aug 08, 2005 at 09:01 AM
Hi guys! Just joined and saw this thead. Got the 9.4 two weeks ago  with the help of Superman. Great service! The speakers were shipped to me in Baguio a day after ordering.

superman in action!  ;)

jen is indeed a superhero! :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: earfull on Aug 08, 2005 at 10:16 AM
nice review bro.
kindly post new looks ng 9.4 mo.

Have the picture but don't know how to load. Help!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Superman on Aug 08, 2005 at 10:44 AM
superman in action!  ;)

jen is indeed a superhero! :D

thanks bro!... :D happy to have helped earfull in purchasing his new toys...and having a new audio friend! :D :D :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: fweyd on Aug 08, 2005 at 02:54 PM
san ok pwede bumili ng Wharfedale??

laki ba ng difference ng Diamond 9 sa 8 ??

mgkano ung mga Diamond 9.4 or .8.4 ?? ung 2 6.5" speaker na floorstanding ?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: masterjericho on Aug 08, 2005 at 05:29 PM

you can check out spectra at makati park square1


... they are open for audition too.


mejo inayos nila yung design ng store...

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ZEPHYR on Aug 08, 2005 at 09:55 PM
Hi anyone knows where a cherry 9.2 can be found ::), as per Hans this color is no longer in stock at spectra >:(. Perhaps other shops may have them. I'm a bit busy but would like to acquire a pair in cherry color, I would appreciate the help in finding one :P. TIA.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Aug 09, 2005 at 12:45 PM
Hi anyone knows where a cherry 9.2 can be found ::), as per Hans this color is no longer in stock at spectra >:(. Perhaps other shops may have them. I'm a bit busy but would like to acquire a pair in cherry color, I would appreciate the help in finding one :P. TIA.

you may also try watts hifi in makati cinema square. look for caloy or elmo.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Superman on Aug 09, 2005 at 12:56 PM
Hi anyone knows where a cherry 9.2 can be found ::), as per Hans this color is no longer in stock at spectra >:(. Perhaps other shops may have them. I'm a bit busy but would like to acquire a pair in cherry color, I would appreciate the help in finding one :P. TIA.

try sonny tuazon, the home theater...he may have stocks now...thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 09, 2005 at 06:47 PM
Hi anyone knows where a cherry 9.2 can be found ::), as per Hans this color is no longer in stock at spectra >:(. Perhaps other shops may have them. I'm a bit busy but would like to acquire a pair in cherry color, I would appreciate the help in finding one :P. TIA.

Talagang di na ba mapigil??
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ZEPHYR on Aug 09, 2005 at 11:34 PM
Talagang di na ba mapigil??

Well 8) Puwede pa naman maghintay ::).

Pagwala eh di maghihintay ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Superman on Aug 10, 2005 at 02:33 PM
i believe cherry color is available at The Home Theater...thanks! :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ZEPHYR on Aug 11, 2005 at 10:28 PM
Hi anyone knows where a cherry 9.2 can be found ::), as per Hans this color is no longer in stock at spectra >:(. Perhaps other shops may have them. I'm a bit busy but would like to acquire a pair in cherry color, I would appreciate the help in finding one :P. TIA.

:-X :-X Under negotiation :-X :-X
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Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jowi on Aug 14, 2005 at 02:09 AM
guys any recommend for set-up.
i got yamaha rx-v540 and diamond 9.1 pa lang.
balak ko sana wh2 sorround with center next kong ibili. ok lang ba?
thanks...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ZEPHYR on Aug 14, 2005 at 11:37 PM
:-X :-X Under negotiation :-X :-X
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:'( Negotiation failed :'(
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Wala na talaga cherry colored 9.2. End of this month pa dating. >:(

Hintay muna ako :P
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Superman on Aug 15, 2005 at 01:23 PM
have u tried calling The Home Theater, bro? baka meron pa sila...tell Sonny i referred you...thanks! :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sebman on Aug 15, 2005 at 04:40 PM
Hi anyone knows where a cherry 9.2 can be found ::), as per Hans this color is no longer in stock at spectra >:(. Perhaps other shops may have them. I'm a bit busy but would like to acquire a pair in cherry color, I would appreciate the help in finding one :P. TIA.

uy pre.. congrats.. padinig na lang nyan ha.. daan ako sa haus nyo..  ;D :D ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sebman on Aug 15, 2005 at 04:41 PM
:'( Negotiation failed :'(
[/b]

Wala na talaga cherry colored 9.2. End of this month pa dating. >:(

Hintay muna ako :P

patience is virtue daw pre.. lapit na yan..  ;)  ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 15, 2005 at 06:44 PM
patience is virtue daw pre.. lapit na yan..  ;)  ::)

Senor sebman,

ganyan ba pinairal mo sir... hehehehhee
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ZEPHYR on Aug 15, 2005 at 09:35 PM
have u tried calling The Home Theater, bro? baka meron pa sila...tell Sonny i referred you...thanks! :D

Hindi pa bro. Try ko nga :P :P :P
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ZEPHYR on Aug 15, 2005 at 09:46 PM
uy pre.. congrats.. padinig na lang nyan ha.. daan ako sa haus nyo..  ;D :D ;)

Dito ka ba pre ???. Kala ko your somewhere there ;)

Text mo ako pag punta ka at medyo hectic ang schedule ko. Eto nga hindi nga makapaghanap ng 9.2 nanghihingi na nga ako ng help sa mga taga PDVD he he he  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Aug 16, 2005 at 08:50 AM
Hey guys,

What Home Cinema reviews (http://www.homecinemachoice.com/cgi-bin/outputpdf.php?file=WHC/033/084_WHC_033.pdf) Diamond 9.0, 9.CC and SW150. 5 stars for the sats ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Aug 16, 2005 at 10:42 AM
guys any recommend for set-up.
i got yamaha rx-v540 and diamond 9.1 pa lang.
balak ko sana wh2 sorround with center next kong ibili. ok lang ba?
thanks...

hi,

i was also using wh2 with yammy 440, wharf diamond 9.1, and diamond 9cs. integration was seamless as compared with my ma b4 and bcenter. im now using 9cm and 9.6 with the wh2 and the integration is still ok for me, i just increased the level in the avr for the rear speakers to keep up with the 9.6 and 9cm.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 16, 2005 at 02:36 PM
Dito ka ba pre ???. Kala ko your somewhere there ;)

Text mo ako pag punta ka at medyo hectic ang schedule ko. Eto nga hindi nga makapaghanap ng 9.2 nanghihingi na nga ako ng help sa mga taga PDVD he he he  ;D ;D ;D

Fafa zephyr musta na 9.2 hunting expedition mo?? si sebman nsa ibayong dagat pa yan... hehehehhee
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jowi on Aug 18, 2005 at 04:44 AM
hi,

i was also using wh2 with yammy 440, wharf diamond 9.1, and diamond 9cs. integration was seamless as compared with my ma b4 and bcenter. im now using 9cm and 9.6 with the wh2 and the integration is still ok for me, i just increased the level in the avr for the rear speakers to keep up with the 9.6 and 9cm.



thanks jetok...  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kt on Aug 25, 2005 at 04:29 PM
hi guys! ok po ba tong set na to? 9.4, 9cs & 9dfs? any reviews with these n how are they compared to ms904s? tnx
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Superman on Aug 25, 2005 at 04:32 PM
hi guys! ok po ba tong set na to? 9.4, 9cs & 9dfs? any reviews with these n how are they compared to ms904s? tnx

suggest you audition them first then decide after :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shotgun on Aug 25, 2005 at 04:34 PM
Hi Kt,

I think we have the same budget for out HT. I listened to your options as well. I would choose the MS914 (vs. MS904) over the 9.4s. The 9.4 are to boomy for my taste. However, it's also important to know what AV you're pairing it with. MS tend to be bright so matching them with a warm receiver (like marantz or HK) whould sound good. BUT as they always say here, it's really what your ears prefer. Good luck and happy shopping!

Also, please check out Dali Concept speakers in Architectural Audio. They would also fit into your budget.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 25, 2005 at 04:41 PM
KT,

Bro try to pm Zypher MS owner yun and now hunting for 9.2 naman.. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kt on Aug 25, 2005 at 04:53 PM
bro shotgun! i have already auditioned the wharfes 9.4 with the set i mentioned n i found them a bit "dull" compared to the MS904 set that ive auditioned paired w a marantz avr. i'l just PM u bro!

or maybe the time i auditioned the 9.4s was not properly set? thats y im asking wat the others think of the 9series.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kt on Aug 25, 2005 at 04:55 PM
bro hans! cge i'll PM him. wats he using ba now?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 25, 2005 at 06:56 PM
Kt,

MS 914 & 912 ata pero after home auditioning 9.2 hehehehe gusto na rin he's looking for cherry color kaso wala stock at the moment kay waiting sya...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ZEPHYR on Aug 26, 2005 at 09:31 AM
Kt,

MS 914 & 912 ata pero after home auditioning 9.2 hehehehe gusto na rin he's looking for cherry color kaso wala stock at the moment kay waiting sya...

Hans,

Salbahe ka, ikaw nagturo sa akin nung 9.2 kasi kaya ito hanap hanap ako :P. But seriously I'm using the Ms912 for my audio listening medyo boomy sa aking pag yun MS914 and gamit sa ST70. But some how after listening to the 9.2 medyo nag list ako dun sa 9.2, kaya lang gusto ko cherry flavor  >:( . . . . este color pala  ;D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kt on Aug 26, 2005 at 10:45 AM
bro hans n zeph! yup color cherry nga yung 9.4 na natest ko sa sights n sounds shang n gwapo nga! though i wasnt really ablt to hear the 9.4 properly coz parang ayaw lakasan ng nagdemo sakin yung volume eh  ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 26, 2005 at 12:56 PM
Hans,

Salbahe ka, ikaw nagturo sa akin nung 9.2 kasi kaya ito hanap hanap ako :P. But seriously I'm using the Ms912 for my audio listening medyo boomy sa aking pag yun MS914 and gamit sa ST70. But some how after listening to the 9.2 medyo nag list ako dun sa 9.2, kaya lang gusto ko cherry flavor  >:( . . . . este color pala  ;D



Di kasalanan yan SARS mo ha..  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 26, 2005 at 12:58 PM
KT,

Bro ayan from a MS owner na gusto din magka wharf 9.2..  :) :) :)

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kt on Aug 26, 2005 at 01:21 PM
bro hans! i know the 914 can be boomy since bigger cones na gamit nya compared sa 904 dba? n wats the difference ba ng 9.2 sa 9.4? dba floorstander lang yung 9.4?

wen i tried the 9.4 kasi medyo lacking sa detail for me(or maybe mali setting nila) compared sa ms904 na i found clear tlaga....hmmm ???....laki pang tipid pag wharfes! hehe ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 26, 2005 at 06:53 PM
I was at Spectra with a friend auditioning Wharf 9.6 with AMX budget EL34 SS rectified tube amp..

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/session1/P1040452.jpg)

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Aug 26, 2005 at 06:57 PM
hans, how did the speakers sound with the el34 amp?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 26, 2005 at 07:23 PM
hans, how did the speakers sound with the el34 amp?

Adriane,

The speaker came out of the box our initial minutes was lean and dull. the amp is also new so i told my friend we need to warms it up to give some exercise kaya wala kami nagawa kundi just play music pero after an hour the sound improved highs and vocals are more pronounced but still harsh, bass lumabas na din for a separate audio setup IMHO ganda ito.

Galing din kasi meron triode/ultralinear mode that is good for particular genre of music you'll like to play. ultralinear mode i believed very good sa rock and disco due to mas litaw yun bass while triode is opposite mas labas highs and mids naman.

Congrats to my friend pala!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 26, 2005 at 07:24 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/session1/P1040454.jpg)

P 17,500.00  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: obey on Aug 26, 2005 at 10:09 PM
Laki pala talaga ng 9.6 :)  Ganda ng mga kuha mo sir.  O.T. - Anong camera gamit mo?  Thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 27, 2005 at 09:06 AM
Laki pala talaga ng 9.6 :)  Ganda ng mga kuha mo sir.  O.T. - Anong camera gamit mo?  Thanks!

point and shoot lang Panasonic. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: obey on Aug 27, 2005 at 10:03 AM
Ayos!  Post lang lagi ng pix sir.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Aug 27, 2005 at 11:13 AM
I was at Spectra with a friend auditioning Wharf 9.6 with AMX budget EL34 SS rectified tube amp..

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/session1/P1040452.jpg)



sir hans,

sino po yung nag-audition ng amx ss el34 amp with 9.6?   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 28, 2005 at 08:36 AM
Senor Jetok,

Yun friend ko ang bumili ng 9.6 + AMX budget amp combo. :) ako lang tsaperon and taga audition. ;D ;D ;D ;D were already set for the 9.6 we were just testing the amp if it can drive the speaker properly but since the speaker is out of the box very stiff and timid sounding so we can't decide then.  i told my friend we must try the amp to an older or broken in speaker. Its a good thing that other speakers on display at spectra and have been played on so dun na namin hook up.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Aug 28, 2005 at 01:52 PM
hans,

evo 30 or evo 40 ba yung nasa gilid na dilaw yung drivers?  ;D

ganda tumunog yan very natural. 8)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 28, 2005 at 02:05 PM
hans,

evo 30 or evo 40 ba yung nasa gilid na dilaw yung drivers?  ;D

ganda tumunog yan very natural. 8)


Totally agree ako natural tumunog Pacific Evo series kaya nga have one  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D I believe black Evo40 sir.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kt on Aug 29, 2005 at 11:04 AM
bro hans! i went back n auditioned the wharfes 9.4 agn n now nilakasan ko na yung volume! hehe ok naman nga sya clear din vocals! n i tried agn yung MS904...mas bright nga talaga yung MS...kaso for the price of the wharfes vs MS ?!?!?! san ka pa! hehe  ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 29, 2005 at 08:55 PM
bro hans! i went back n auditioned the wharfes 9.4 agn n now nilakasan ko na yung volume! hehe ok naman nga sya clear din vocals! n i tried agn yung MS904...mas bright nga talaga yung MS...kaso for the price of the wharfes vs MS ?!?!?! san ka pa! hehe  ???

Bro,

Ako Wharf owner Pacific Evo30 and Diamond 9.2 hehehe ikaw san ka??   ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bhongskie on Aug 30, 2005 at 09:41 AM
bro kt, I'll stop short of recommending a choice between the MS and Wharf 'coz I believe it's not a matter of which is better but a matter of which sound you like.  I'll give na rin my observation nonetheless no matter how subjective it is since I was able to audition the MS 914, 904 and 908 and the Wharf 9.4, 9.5 and 9.6.

Found the MS line bright indeed and the Wharfs warmer.  I was actually considering the MS914 for my audio set-up but I ended up getting the Wharf 9.5 instead.  Perfect for the music that I prefer and as a bonus the price to performance ratio I believe is really excellent.  I think that's one very good trait of Wharfs, good sound for less price.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Superman on Aug 30, 2005 at 10:10 AM
hi! what amp and ICs/speaker cables were used during your audition of the MS and wharfe 9.6? these may have contributed to your conclusion that the MS speakers are "bright" sounding and the wharfes being warm...just a thought, thanks! :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bhongskie on Aug 30, 2005 at 10:40 AM
Hi superman,  don't know what ICs were used in my audition of the MS line, (wasn't able to ask na) but the receiver and CDP were Marantz.  The Wharfs I auditioned were hooked by Ixos speaker cables to NADC320BEE and NAD521 CDP then I asked to hook it on a Yamaha 450 receiver for comparison.  The Wharf sounded better with the NAD than with the Yammie.  Then again, this is not conclusive, just my observation/impression.  I would not consider my audition as conclusive as it went for only over an hour for the entire MS line and about the same time also for the Wharfs.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: leomar on Aug 30, 2005 at 10:44 AM
magkano po price range ng diamond 9 series speakers? thanks po!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kt on Aug 30, 2005 at 10:46 AM
bro hans n bongskie! tnx for the reply!

hehe hirap talaga mamili! ganda kasi pareho eh! ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Superman on Aug 30, 2005 at 11:15 AM
Hi superman, don't know what ICs were used in my audition of the MS line, (wasn't able to ask na) but the receiver and CDP were Marantz. The Wharfs I auditioned were hooked by Ixos speaker cables to NADC320BEE and NAD521 CDP then I asked to hook it on a Yamaha 450 receiver for comparison. The Wharf sounded better with the NAD than with the Yammie. Then again, this is not conclusive, just my observation/impression. I would not consider my audition as conclusive as it went for only over an hour for the entire MS line and about the same time also for the Wharfs.

thanks for the reply bro...i would suggest when auditioning, use the same amp/receiver, same source, same cables so that all factors are equal, with this you will be able to really listen to and hear the difference between the two...if possible as well, use the same amp/source/cables that you have so more or less you can conclude if this will match your taste, just my 2-cents, thanks! :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Superman on Aug 30, 2005 at 11:29 AM
KT - answered your PM, please check, thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 30, 2005 at 04:51 PM
Superman,

YOur right as much as possible you'll use the same gears in evaluating speaker.. kaso we all know that no shop carry all brand that we plan to audition.

Tip: speaker should be neutral and natural sounding less coloration better. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: s2kov on Aug 31, 2005 at 06:41 PM
ano sensitivity ng 9.6?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Superman on Sep 01, 2005 at 07:44 AM
ano sensitivity ng 9.6?

91db yata, bro!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: arnoldc on Sep 01, 2005 at 08:21 AM
who has a Wharfedale 9.5 or 9.6 setup here who can convince me otherwise of what I heard from the store?

warning: i have torture CDs

anybody?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: zakkaz on Sep 01, 2005 at 11:31 AM
who has a Wharfedale 9.5 or 9.6 setup here who can convince me otherwise of what I heard from the store?

warning: i have torture CDs

anybody?
you can audition it at spectra they allow it
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Sep 01, 2005 at 11:33 AM
ano sensitivity ng 9.6?

90db
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: arnoldc on Sep 01, 2005 at 11:47 AM
you can audition it at spectra they allow it
that's where I auditioned it and they sound crappy.

kaya nga i'm looking for somebody with a decent 9.5 or 9.6 setup. but it seems nobody is willing.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Sep 01, 2005 at 12:18 PM
who has a Wharfedale 9.5 or 9.6 setup here who can convince me otherwise of what I heard from the store?

warning: i have torture CDs

anybody?

What's your "torture" CDs?   Most of the time, you shouldn't  expect entry level stuff to pass "torture" tests that even some mid-priced brands have difficulty passing.   ;D  Some AV stores won't even allow you to play a difficult CD if they know your CD will stress out their merchandise. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Sep 01, 2005 at 12:41 PM
that's where I auditioned it and they sound crappy.

kaya nga i'm looking for somebody with a decent 9.5 or 9.6 setup. but it seems nobody is willing.

I think somebody should give time to arnoldc to check on this - baka hindi 9.6 ang prbm - baka yung mga amp sa spectra!  ;D . . . o  yung source . . . o yung cable nila . . . o yung the whole system (as in system synergy)!  ;D

Di naman papatayin ni arnoldc ang speaker nyo . . . torture lang naman eh!  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Sep 01, 2005 at 12:47 PM
What's your "torture" CDs?   Most of the time, you shouldn't  expect entry level stuff to pass "torture" tests that even some mid-priced brands have difficulty passing.   ;D  Some AV stores won't even allow you to play a difficult CD if they know your CD will stress out their merchandise. 

I think the store can always control the volume during stressing or torture test of a speaker . . . and I think capability of speakers can not be judged by their cost alone as to suggest from your post that more expensive always means better! I guess not!  :P

In fact, the best way to battle (shopping  ;D) to get your conquest (your gear  ;D ;D) is really to bring your guns&bullets (test materials  ;D ;D  ;D)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Sep 01, 2005 at 01:04 PM
. . . and I think capability of speakers can not be judged by their cost alone as to suggest from your post that more expensive always means better! I guess not!  :P


You're talking exceptions, I'm talking generalities. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: arnoldc on Sep 01, 2005 at 01:13 PM
av_phile, my "torture" CDs are not a collection that can break a system :) they're collections of nice music (at least to me) that will bring out the qualities or the lack of it, of any system.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Sep 01, 2005 at 01:30 PM
av_phile, my "torture" CDs are not a collection that can break a system :) they're collections of nice music (at least to me) that will bring out the qualities or the lack of it, of any system.

Ok, I initially thought your "torture" CD might have consisted of the Telarc 1812 overture which can easily stress any system.  ;D 

So these must be audiophile recordings with well-thought out recording techniques that brought the musical detail to the fore, right? 

I don't know how you define "crap."  But to be more precise, when I was auditioning the diamond 8.3 before, it didn't strike me as being detailed in the mids and highs as in another system using different speakers, playing my favourite CD title at that time (which wasn't even audiophile grade.)   Though I wouldn't call it crap.  It just wasn't as revealing as my ears preferred.

Someone (I think the Wharfe sales guy honest enough to caution me) told me at that time not to expect the world from the Diamond 8 at the price I'd be paying.   It's certainly no Mssion or B&W.  It garnered awards precisely because it offered the best value for its price point.  It allowed ordinary folks to get a glimpse of what it's like to hear Hi-Fi at a price they won't complain.  But if you are used to the more eclectic appliances regarded as sonically definitive among serious hi-fi circles, you might be dissappointed when you start comparing the diamond with these, with all other things equal.  ;D  The diamond 9 is said to be an improvement,  but I am often surprised at the less than enthusiastic feedback I hear. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: arnoldc on Sep 01, 2005 at 02:03 PM
Quote
So these must be audiophile recordings with well-thought out recording techniques that brought the musical detail to the fore, right?
Yes :)

Crap = ngongo, disoriented, incoherent. that is the 9.5 i'm describing. not even the low price compelled me to buy one. BUT, i'm not writing it off. heard it in one store (Spectra, and I have no complaints on the store and it's staff), surely would like to hear it somewhere else.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: onedown on Sep 01, 2005 at 02:14 PM
who has a Wharfedale 9.5 or 9.6 setup here who can convince me otherwise of what I heard from the store?

warning: i have torture CDs

anybody?

arnold,

i'm not sure if this is your cup of tea, but you might want to join this session:

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?board=63;topic=36045.158#msg487408
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jcob on Sep 01, 2005 at 02:25 PM
[quote
Crap = ngongo, disoriented, incoherent. that is the 9.5 i'm describing. not even the low price compelled me to buy one. BUT, i'm not writing it off. heard it in one store (Spectra, and I have no complaints on the store and it's staff), surely would like to hear it somewhere else.
Quote

This is the kind of review, comment or observation I would like to read, an honest to goodness,  straight to the point observation. No that I don't like the Diamond 9.5.

I think there's a shoot-out of floorstander this comming saturday, the wharfe 9.6,I think is one of the contender. You may want to join them. They're using a prety decent equipment there (atleast for my taste).
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: arnoldc on Sep 01, 2005 at 02:36 PM
onedown, jcob, thanks for the link, but i'm sure magulo yun. daming protagonist :D gagawin ko na lang yung CMoy ko :D ngongo yung sennheiser sa Acer notebook ko eh, but on the Harman Kardon it shines!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jcob on Sep 01, 2005 at 02:46 PM
onedown, jcob, thanks for the link, but i'm sure magulo yun. daming protagonist :D gagawin ko na lang yung CMoy ko :D ngongo yung sennheiser sa Acer notebook ko eh, but on the Harman Kardon it shines!

Sir, I was hoping I can convince you to go there (although I'm not the owner of the house) so that you may also give us your honest opinion(s) on those speakers. I also want to hear it myself, wala lang time

Wait na lang ako sa review nung mga present doon.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Sep 01, 2005 at 02:49 PM
onedown, jcob, thanks for the link, but i'm sure magulo yun. daming protagonist :D gagawin ko na lang yung CMoy ko :D ngongo yung sennheiser sa Acer notebook ko eh, but on the Harman Kardon it shines!

Did you get to compare the Diamond at Spectra with another brand of speakers like the Klipsch or Mission they are carrying? 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: arnoldc on Sep 01, 2005 at 03:00 PM
jcob, as much as i'd like to, i'm not sure din.

av_phile1, hindi. because my focus talaga is the wharf after what i've been reading. muntik ko na nga bilhin without auditioning, buti na lang.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bhongskie on Sep 01, 2005 at 03:31 PM
who has a Wharfedale 9.5 or 9.6 setup here who can convince me otherwise of what I heard from the store?

warning: i have torture CDs

anybody?

bro arnoldc,

If you find time I can volunteer my 9.5 for your testing, but in my place.  However, you just have to bear with my very modest equipment consisting of Yamaha 440, Philips DVD player (which I also use as my audio source), Audio pro speaker cables and interconnects, nothing branded, fancy or exotic "audiophile" gear.  But if you prefer you can bring along your prefered gear to hook up with my 9.5.  My living room is not acoustically treated and of modest size so that might add up.  Also, my 9.5 was delivered only last Saturday so hindi pa siguro sufficient ang break-in but what the heck, I don't believe in the idea of break-in for speakers.  These are just personal thoughts.

My offer is not intended to prove or disprove anything.  Because, as a matter of fact, I had somewhat the same impression as you when I first heard the 9.5.  I had to audition thrice, from different stores to convince myself that the 9.5 is worth it.   The 9.5 is not a perfect speaker but when I auditioned the Infinity Primus 360, MA B4, AE Evo 3, Concept 2, B&W 602, a Jamo speaker (forgot model), MS 904, 908 and 914 that made up my mind.  Of course some of the speakers I mentioned are better than the 9.5 but considering their price (near twice that of the 9.5) I was not convinced that those sounded twice better than the diamond.  So my choice was easy and I was happy with my purchase though there is more to be desired from the 9.5

I welcome the idea of testing the 9.5 from people like you who are more knowledgeable in this field.  At least I will have the opinion straight from people who have vast experiences in audio and HT and it is my hope that in the process I will learn.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: arnoldc on Sep 01, 2005 at 03:47 PM
bhongskie, i'll take your offer, and definitely your place as i never intended to borrow it naman. you can pm your mobile for us to communicate further.

cheers!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bhongskie on Sep 01, 2005 at 04:05 PM
sure bro arnoldc, will pm you my mobile and address later.  Offhand, we can schedule it on weekends lang.

cheers!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 01, 2005 at 04:46 PM
Yes :)

Crap = ngongo, disoriented, incoherent. that is the 9.5 i'm describing. not even the low price compelled me to buy one. BUT, i'm not writing it off. heard it in one store (Spectra, and I have no complaints on the store and it's staff), surely would like to hear it somewhere else.

arnoldc,

Where you able to auditioned a broken in unit? kasi I remember when we home audition two models of 9 series 9.2 and 9.4 ganun din napansin namin but as we used it nagimprove naman nawala yun stiffness. :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: arnoldc on Sep 01, 2005 at 05:04 PM
hans, tinanong ko yung staff at sabi may katagalan na din daw yun dun pero di gaano katagal  ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: s2kov on Sep 01, 2005 at 05:09 PM
hi arnold,

so far, what speaker you heard and passed your torture cd?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shotgun on Sep 01, 2005 at 05:21 PM
...The 9.5 is not a perfect speaker but when I auditioned the Infinity Primus 360, MA B4, AE Evo 3, Concept 2, B&W 602, a Jamo speaker (forgot model), MS 904, 908 and 914 that made up my mind.  Of course some of the speakers I mentioned are better than the 9.5 but considering their price (near twice that of the 9.5) I was not convinced that those sounded twice better than the diamond.....


Perect way to describe it bhongskie!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Sep 01, 2005 at 05:26 PM
jcob, as much as i'd like to, i'm not sure din.
.... muntik ko na nga bilhin without auditioning, buti na lang.

Diyata't ikaw din ... may tendencies ...

bumili ng hindi nag-aaudition!  :o  :o  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: arnoldc on Sep 01, 2005 at 05:43 PM
aHobbit, i'm supposed to get it once ok na sa pandinig ko, kaso hindi nga eh. kahit na mura, kung di pasado sa kin eh wag na lang.

s2kov, sa version 1, PrimaLuna ProLogue 1 + Infinity Kappa 200 = fast and furious and Fase Integrated + Opera speakers ;D. version 2 na ito, have not made its rounds yet, so fresh start.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: s2kov on Sep 01, 2005 at 05:49 PM
how about the concept2 and concept6?

aHobbit, i'm supposed to get it once ok na sa pandinig ko, kaso hindi nga eh. kahit na mura, kung di pasado sa kin eh wag na lang.

s2kov, sa version 1, PrimaLuna ProLogue 1 + Infinity Kappa 200 = fast and furious and Fase Integrated + Opera speakers ;D. version 2 na ito, have not made its rounds yet, so fresh start.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 01, 2005 at 07:22 PM
onedown, jcob, thanks for the link, but i'm sure magulo yun. daming protagonist :D gagawin ko na lang yung CMoy ko :D ngongo yung sennheiser sa Acer notebook ko eh, but on the Harman Kardon it shines!

Funny bro di ka naman namin nakasama sa session how can you say magulo and daming protagonist?? protagonist in cheap but very good sounding gears pwede pero on a particular brand hmmm I doubt.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Sep 01, 2005 at 08:21 PM
5.5k lang kc e kaya paborito ko ;D I think I'm getting one again. This time, in cherry ;)

The Star Online: AudioFile - No roughs in these Diamonds (http://202.186.86.35/audio/story.asp?file=/2005/8/25/audiofile/25diamond&sec=audiofile)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: arnoldc on Sep 01, 2005 at 09:08 PM
hans, my objective is to evaluate the wharfe lang. with four speaker in there, magulo sa kin yun. besides noon ko pa di gusto yang monitor audio. at anong session ba yung tinutukoy mo? yung sinagot ko na post kanina ang tinutukoy ay yung saturday session daw.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 01, 2005 at 09:17 PM
hans, my objective is to evaluate the wharfe lang. with four speaker in there, magulo sa kin yun. besides noon ko pa di gusto yang monitor audio. at anong session ba yung tinutukoy mo? yung sinagot ko na post kanina ang tinutukoy ay yung saturday session daw.

Thanks for clarifying kung ano magulo sa iyo... I thought yun session namin hindi organized btw yun nagpilot ng session this saturday ay kami. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 01, 2005 at 09:19 PM
5.5k lang kc e kaya paborito ko ;D I think I'm getting one again. This time, in cherry ;)

The Star Online: AudioFile - No roughs in these Diamonds (http://202.186.86.35/audio/story.asp?file=/2005/8/25/audiofile/25diamond&sec=audiofile)

Nice to hear that bro.. Congrats in advance. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Sep 01, 2005 at 10:01 PM
Nice to hear that bro.. Congrats in advance. :)

Thanks, Sir Hans. The little gems were just right for my small living room. Hope to get a better amp this time. Have fun this Sat. I wish I have time to at least see you guys. Dami akong tanong e ;D Don't forget the pics :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 01, 2005 at 10:07 PM
Thanks, Sir Hans. The little gems were just right for my small living room. Hope to get a better amp this time. Have fun this Sat. I wish I have time to at least see you guys. Dami akong tanong e ;D Don't forget the pics :)

Thanks.. pix sure will post some specially the speaker included. :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ESi on Sep 01, 2005 at 11:34 PM
hans et al.,

Im really looking forward this saturday since I missed several oppurtunities  in hearing the wharfs on a seroius set-up. Ive listened to the Concept 6 several times already in different venues and honestly ive been quite fond of it. But Im not discounting the fact that the 9.6 is a true contender. Ive heard it once at spectra ( kudos JIM ) which was satisfactory but can't really make out a good justifiable judgement prematurely. Very good design and fabulous drivers. Despite what others might think of it, IMHO the diamond 9 series esp. the 9.6 earns my respect and praise. Moreover, Ive found out that Absolute Sound raved about it in a review in a recent issue. The Mag being very respected in the the Audiophile Community took notice...lets give it a fair chance. Just my 2 cents. Can't wait ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: s2kov on Sep 01, 2005 at 11:44 PM
hans,

What amp will be used during the shootout? I am interested to hear those speakers in the line-up using st70. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: levi on Sep 02, 2005 at 12:38 AM
Does the Wharfedale 9 series have the same sound characteristic as the Diamond 8? I bought one before but I returned it after a day. I find it ngongo also but thats just me.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 02, 2005 at 07:04 AM
hans,

What amp will be used during the shootout? I am interested to hear those speakers in the line-up using st70. :)


Iceman AMC 6550 tube amp will be used to drive those speakers + Wonderlust JD labs Prerotica preamp.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 02, 2005 at 07:07 AM
hans et al.,

Im really looking forward this saturday since I missed several oppurtunities  in hearing the wharfs on a seroius set-up. Ive listened to the Concept 6 several times already in different venues and honestly ive been quite fond of it. But Im not discounting the fact that the 9.6 is a true contender. Ive heard it once at spectra ( kudos JIM ) which was satisfactory but can't really make out a good justifiable judgement prematurely. Very good design and fabulous drivers. Despite what others might think of it, IMHO the diamond 9 series esp. the 9.6 earns my respect and praise. Moreover, Ive found out that Absolute Sound raved about it in a review in a recent issue. The Mag being very respected in the the Audiophile Community took notice...lets give it a fair chance. Just my 2 cents. Can't wait ;)

Doc see you Saturday. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jerix on Sep 02, 2005 at 07:34 AM
Of course some of the speakers I mentioned are better than the 9.5 but considering their price (near twice that of the 9.5) I was not convinced that those sounded twice better than the diamond.  So my choice was easy and I was happy with my purchase though there is more to be desired from the 9.5


Once again, another proof that Price is really very influential in this hobby
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: arnoldc on Sep 02, 2005 at 07:52 AM
Thanks for clarifying kung ano magulo sa iyo... I thought yun session namin hindi organized btw yun nagpilot ng session this saturday ay kami. 
salamat naman na-realize mo na i will not make a comment such as you thought i did on  a session that i've never been to. i am brutally honest on my opinions about a product, but it is not my character to ridicule, you or your group.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Sep 02, 2005 at 11:29 AM

Of course some of the speakers I mentioned are better than the 9.5 but considering their price (near twice that of the 9.5) I was not convinced that those sounded twice better than the diamond.  So my choice was easy and I was happy with my purchase though there is more to be desired from the 9.5


Twice the price tag doesn't mean twice better in sound quality.  Price and sound quality are rarely commensurately proportional.

Often within the commercial price ranges that are affordable, twice the price can just mean a slight improvement in phase coherence (which is difficult to identify), or absence of lobing,  or an extension of just another 5 hz lower or higher, or it could be just better cabinet finish, or lesser cabinet diffraction, or it could mean better off-axis or on-axis dispersion.  It could mean a combination, but rarely all.  To get all these improvements will bring the cost of production much higher than just twice.

Different driver materials and construction as well as crossover network complexity can also drive the price twofold without necessarily perceiving a twofold increase in sound quality, which can often only be subjetively assessed.  It's the cost of production that dictate the price, not the sound quality.    There are so many things to consider in sound propagation that different brands handle the design and construction differently that affect the  final price tag.   Hand-made speakers ofcourse will have a higher cost of production and thus a higher price tag than mass-produced ones.  Will they sound twice better?   For some, it may, for others it's just incremental.  It all depends on your value judgement.

To you and  others, twice the price may not justify the perceived difference in sound quality.  For other audiophiles I know, a mere perceived improvement in stereo imaging often associated with phase coherence and smooth and extended frequency response will cause them to abandon a $1,000 pair in favour of a $15,000 pair.  That's not just twice.  Incremental improvements in speaker performance often account for wide disparities in tag prices, depending on the cost of production.  And pedigree.   It's really up to the consumer's value judgement on what he wants and what he is willing to pay to get it. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: arnoldc on Sep 02, 2005 at 11:49 AM
tama av_phile. good egfineering has it's price- in many situations, diminishing returns.

i definitely does not have the capability to buy $15K speakers, but i will get the best my money can buy, even if that means twice as much but it will "get me there."

initially, i only wanted to have something that sounds "ok" and at the wharfe's price point it seems "what have i got to lose?" but when i heard it (the 9.5 specifically), it lacks the minimum qualities i'm looking for in a speaker, so even if it is cheap, will i live with it's imperfections? definitely not! if i buy it based on price alone, and everyday i listen to it i will just long for things i cannot hear or just sound  not right for me, nagsayang lang ako ng pera. might as well look for something else, maybe in the same price range, or twice as much.

a week after i've auditioned both the 9.4 and 9.5 at spectra, i went to architectural audio and listened to the Dali Concept 2 (bookshelf). based on my preferences, it creamed both 9.4 and 9.5 in all areas except bass. but then again, the bass of the 9.5 was loose, wobbly and disoriented so even if it has "more" bass than the Concept 2, i still wouldn't want "more" but is "not passable" for me.

in fairness, the Concept 2 has enough break in period, the reason i was looking for a wharfe setup (broken in) as i would like to give it another go before i remove it from my shortlist.

i am not expecting over the top performance for my other setup. i just want the replacement to sound better than what i currently have- BOSE 301 Continental Special Edition (this is a 15 year-old speaker!). napakadali sanang talunin, di ba?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 02, 2005 at 12:10 PM
salamat naman na-realize mo na i will not make a comment such as you thought i did on  a session that i've never been to. i am brutally honest on my opinions about a product, but it is not my character to ridicule, you or your group.

Clear as crystal.. labo kasi yun initial post mo like as you put it crappy.  ;D ;D  ;D ;D ;D

cheers.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: arnoldc on Sep 02, 2005 at 12:26 PM
hans, with all due respect, hindi malabo yun. i am surprised that a person such as you, much respected in this forum, would call my posts "funny" and "crappy"
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 02, 2005 at 12:44 PM
hans, with all due respect, hindi malabo yun. i am surprised that a person such as you, much respected in this forum, would call my posts "funny" and "crappy"

Arnoldc, I dont find your post for Wharf speakers funny and crappy, your post pertaining to to our session na magulo caught my attention.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Sep 02, 2005 at 01:02 PM
tama av_phile. good egfineering has it's price- in many situations, diminishing returns.

i definitely does not have the capability to buy $15K speakers, but i will get the best my money can buy, even if that means twice as much but it will "get me there."

initially, i only wanted to have something that sounds "ok" and at the wharfe's price point it seems "what have i got to lose?" but when i heard it (the 9.5 specifically), it lacks the minimum qualities i'm looking for in a speaker, so even if it is cheap, will i live with it's imperfections? definitely not! if i buy it based on price alone, and everyday i listen to it i will just long for things i cannot hear or just sound  not right for me, nagsayang lang ako ng pera. might as well look for something else, maybe in the same price range, or twice as much.

a week after i've auditioned both the 9.4 and 9.5 at spectra, i went to architectural audio and listened to the Dali Concept 2 (bookshelf). based on my preferences, it creamed both 9.4 and 9.5 in all areas except bass. but then again, the bass of the 9.5 was loose, wobbly and disoriented so even if it has "more" bass than the Concept 2, i still wouldn't want "more" but is "not passable" for me.

in fairness, the Concept 2 has enough break in period, the reason i was looking for a wharfe setup (broken in) as i would like to give it another go before i remove it from my shortlist.

i am not expecting over the top performance for my other setup. i just want the replacement to sound better than what i currently have- BOSE 301 Continental Special Edition (this is a 15 year-old speaker!). napakadali sanang talunin, di ba?

Arnoldc, I agree, you have to be satisfied with whatever you're buying.  You don't buy things just because they're affordable.  

I guess it really shouldn't be difficult replacing a BOSE.  But only if you've started to hate it.  (Much like replacing your spouse.  Difficult to replace if you still have love between.  ;D) It can be so easy to fall in love with the speakers you've lived for so long.  Being two familiar with it, you might be looking for the same quality in new speakers that's not there.  And unless you've heard another speaker set that really impressed you over what you have, not any speaker can replace what you've lived with for so long.

Have you also considered room accoustics in choosing your speakers.   The reason I asked earlier if you checked the Klipsch speakers that Spectra is also carrying is to establish a better comparative on the same listening conditions.  You could then check if their listening room might be absorbing more high frequencies to make any speaker sound "ngongo."  Klipsch is known for its high efficiency and strong highs.  If the listening room is very dead, even a Klipsch might sound ngongo.  If not, then you can safely fault the diamond as really HF challenged.    You would then also have a more solid comparative for your assessment.

Am no apologist for the 9.5, but the way it looks, it seems like a 2.5-way design that should have ample bass and can really rock a typical room.  It's possible its mids and bass drivers do overpower the tweet to give the impression you had.   Some designers often exaggerate certain parts of the spectrum to impress the consumer, expecting consumers to tone down if they have too much of it.  Consumers are often more impressed with more bass.  I can understand this philosophy in the entry level market as it is much easier to tone down the bass.  If the speaker is bass challenged, it's relatively more difficiult and expensive to add to it.  If I recall right, this is also the impression of many with the Diamond 8 series.  The tweets seemed less detailed and revealing than those in other brands.  More soft than bright.  Tweaking the crossover network did some wonders.  It's definitely not for everyone.  At my age, I can't be expected to hear anything above 17khz.  That's probably why I also find some speakers ngongo and that what younger people consider bright is just right for me.   ;D  Just my thoughts.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: arnoldc on Sep 02, 2005 at 01:17 PM
hans, yes precisely. you referred to that post as funny and crappy. FIN.

av_phile, although it is a 15 year-old speaker, it is actually doing temporary duties. the resident  speakers then were the JBL LX-2002 that i never wanted to replace but a friend wanted it, i gave him a price not to sell, and still went for it. so enter the BOSE from hibernation, as something to fill-in (i have no front speakers left).

i have auditioned the Klipsch (RB-2) at home, and I don't have a problem with that, but i will do your suggestion of auditioning them at spectra.

and again you're right. i go for quality, not quantity.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: akyatbundok on Sep 02, 2005 at 01:43 PM
guys clarification lang ha we'll be listening (again) to the 9.6 this sat, not the 9.5 or 9.4.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 02, 2005 at 01:45 PM
guys clarification lang ha we'll be listening (again) to the 9.6 this sat, not the 9.5 or 9.4.

chief,

Actually 9.6, Concept 6, B4 & M34i. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 02, 2005 at 01:49 PM
It's definitely not for everyone.  At my age, I can't be expected to hear anything above 17khz.  That's probably why I also find some speakers ngongo and that what younger people consider bright is just right for me.   ;D  Just my thoughts.

Sir Avphile,

Mukhang your saying oldies ka na sir..  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D hehehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Sep 02, 2005 at 02:03 PM
Sir Avphile,

Mukhang your saying oldies ka na sir..  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D hehehehe

Well, no point denying it.   ;D   30 something is old in this hobby.  ;D  That's when you start to hear less and less of 18khz and above. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 02, 2005 at 02:19 PM
chief,

Actually 9.6, Concept 6, B4 & M34i. :)

Chief,

Actually 9.6, Concept 6, B4 & M34. :)

As I know wala pa yatang M34i here, but I may be wrong.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Sep 02, 2005 at 02:21 PM
Itodo nyo na. Sama na AE Evo 3 ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 02, 2005 at 02:23 PM
Well, no point denying it.   ;D   30 something is old in this hobby.  ;D  That's when you start to hear less and less of 18khz and above. 

I dunno but according to my impressions, di ba usually those who are into this HT and audio hobby are mostly in the age 30 & up bracket? So that makes you young  ;D.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 02, 2005 at 02:24 PM
Itodo nyo na. Sama na AE Evo 3 ;D

Mordaunt SHort na rin.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Sep 02, 2005 at 02:27 PM
Mordaunt SHort na rin.

I think Sir Akyat owns the 908's (?), so MS is represented :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Sep 02, 2005 at 02:58 PM
I dunno but according to my impressions, di ba usually those who are into this HT and audio hobby are mostly in the age 30 & up bracket? So that makes you young  ;D.

I like to think so too.  ;D

I guess 30 something and above is the time when you most likely have achieved a place in the corporate hierarchy or a thriving business when you can afford to buy all those goodies needed for a really serious audio or HT set-up.  

Ironically and unfortunately, it's also the time when you develop a serious diminution in your hearing prowess.   :(  

The irony of it all is just when you can afford to indugle in a Bryston or a B&W, you really can't hear all their promise of delivering flat frequencies up to 20khz. Only up to 17khz, gradually getting lower as you age, about 1khz down every decade or so.   In that sense, anybody wo can now afford to indulge in this hobby is, quite simply, old.  ;D  Unless you're a rich 16 year old  kid who just inherited you dad's esoteric gears.  ;D  Very rarely do you find an 16 year old enjoying his own Bryston amps and Maggies in a well treated listening room with his own plasma TV.  That's really the age range when you can enjoy all the frequencies up to 20khz.  Or a 20-20 vision to enjoy all the colors.  ;D  But here's another irony, a 16 year old would most likely be happy wasting his faculties away in their peak with a portable mp3 and a pathetic headphone.   ;D  Life is one great irony.   ;D




Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: akyatbundok on Sep 02, 2005 at 03:58 PM
me too i can hardly hear above 17khz ever since my mid-20s, probably due to headphone abuse coz the first audio gear i can afford were a Discman and studio headphones.... frequency sweep on a test CD goes quiet on me when it reaches the top freqs.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Sep 02, 2005 at 04:42 PM
me too i can hardly hear above 17khz ever since my mid-20s, probably due to headphone abuse coz the first audio gear i can afford were a Discman and studio headphones.... frequency sweep on a test CD goes quiet on me when it reaches the top freqs.

I've noticed that not too long ago.  The sheffield My Disc test disc goes totally silent on me after 17khz when there's still 3khz to go in that track.   :(  While my 12 year old son can still hear them up to the very end of that 20hz -20khz sweep. :(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ESi on Sep 02, 2005 at 08:22 PM
Hello akyat and av,

Well may i just share my opinion on hearing problems. For you to hear and feel frequencies (test tones)  you should have an acoustically correct environment, hence ideal and controlled. There are a lot of factors affecting these test tones. When hearing tests are done, the patient is enclosed  in an airtight AUDIO BOOTH with high quality headphones to get an accurate result. Hence CONTROLLED set-up. But as we age depending on noise exposure ( jackhammers, disco, walkman mania, machine shops, etc.) and abuse (load rock music, concerts, distortion infested hi-fi, etc)...the first frequencies to be affected are the high frequencies which are present at the base of the cochlea which is proximal to the external environment. FYI: It only takes Php 300 to have your hearing assessed by a professional audiologist. Try out AMEARCO or MANILA HEARING CENTER. Being an audiophile.. you owe it to yourself to know if your precious hearing is within the normal hearing acuity. Cheers! ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: arnoldc on Sep 03, 2005 at 11:47 AM
the frquency sweep is still useful to find out the characteristic of the room (not just your ears. but i fully agree and check your ears first) and your speakers.

my room is a bass hole. in one instance, not even the famed REL sub was able to put out bass in that room. and that's the reason why i have the speakers i have now.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wowowee on Sep 04, 2005 at 07:13 AM
the frquency sweep is still useful to find out the characteristic of the room (not just your ears. but i fully agree and check your ears first) and your speakers.

my room is a bass hole. in one instance, not even the famed REL sub was able to put out bass in that room. and that's the reason why i have the speakers i have now.
What is that speaker you have now?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: arnoldc on Sep 05, 2005 at 01:25 PM
DIY bro. para hindi OT, PM mo na lang ako.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Sep 05, 2005 at 01:38 PM
the frquency sweep is still useful to find out the characteristic of the room (not just your ears. but i fully agree and check your ears first) and your speakers.

my room is a bass hole. in one instance, not even the famed REL sub was able to put out bass in that room. and that's the reason why i have the speakers i have now.

If you're room mode sucks out certain bass frequencies at your listening possition, there's really nothing any subwoofer can do, expensive or otherwise.  Only addressing the room mode with bass traps, changing your listening position or subwoofer placement will help.  So what did you do?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: arnoldc on Sep 05, 2005 at 03:42 PM
av_phile, rotate everything and use DIY spakers
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 05, 2005 at 07:55 PM
9.6 got to hear it again at Akyatbundok's condo driven by AMC 6550 tube amp for me my observation still the same. :) :) :) must audition before buying other brand. :)

Congrats sir jetok!!..

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Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Sep 06, 2005 at 09:43 AM
kawawa naman yung MS ni master akyat, andun lang sa isang tabi  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 06, 2005 at 09:51 AM
Oo nga no. We forgot to include it sa mga shootout stars.  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Sep 06, 2005 at 09:58 AM
bugbog na kasi yan sa mga previous session pre kaya nagrerecharge pa  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 06, 2005 at 12:12 PM
Oo nga no. We forgot to include it sa mga shootout stars.  :D

Matzter,

Nun late night nakabit namin to my ears naging warm yun MS tweeter compare to Dali. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bhongskie on Sep 06, 2005 at 02:09 PM
Twice the price tag doesn't mean twice better in sound quality.  Price and sound quality are rarely commensurately proportional.



Exactly sir av_phile, and I think most people are aware of this.  Having said that, it's exactly my premise:  because of the reality that price and sound are not directly in proportion, I am unwilling to buy a more pricey speaker with only minute improvements in sound no matter how excellently engineered it is.  At the end of the day, it's not the engineering nor the technology nor the materials that I are buying, its the sound.

But I would agree that better engineered products would have better quality.   However, one may reach a certain point when he realizes that at a certain degree of quality, the price is not anymore warranted.  I agree with you completely that it is the consumer's value judgement that would dictate the choice.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jerix on Sep 06, 2005 at 03:37 PM
What are the elements that cause the "BASS HOLE / TRAP"

If this is a description of a room for listening where even the 9.6 that is known for its excellence in the low frequency region falls short, what features should the speakers must have to resolve this?  ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Sep 06, 2005 at 04:00 PM
What are the elements that cause the "BASS HOLE / TRAP"

If this is a description of a room for listening where even the 9.6 that is known for its excellence in the low frequency region falls short, what features should the speakers must have to resolve this?  ::)

A bass hole happens when there is a "suck out" or cancellation of a certain freqeuncy at your listening position.  All rooms have room modes where standing waves occur at certain frequencies that are fully dependent on the geometry and dimensions of the room.  Opposite to a suck-out is a peaking where the standing waves reinforce the primary waves to make it sound louder than others. 

Room treatments that decay first reflections only address the mids and highs.  Room modes become apparent starting at 200hz and below where most room treatments fail.  That is why bass propagation is the most difficult to manage in any room.

There is nothing a speaker has that can control room modes. That's why I said, not even the most expensive subwoofers can create the needed bass if the room mode sucks it out at your listening position.  The only way to manage room mode is to minimize its effect using bass traps, changing speaker placement positions, or changing your listening position. Parametric equalizers help but only to tame peaking once you've identified the specific offending frequency.  Not suck outs.  Increasing the amplitude of a sucked-out frequency only increases the reflected out of phase frequency and the net effect is still a suck-out. 

There are excellent web site articles on room modes.  Just do a google search.  I recall there's even an online calculator that tells you what frequencies peak or sucked out given your room dimensions, speaker positions and listneing positions relative to each other.  Just can't remember the site.   There's a few articles on it at www.audioholics.com on the topic of accoustics.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 06, 2005 at 05:14 PM
Matzter,

Nun late night nakabit namin to my ears naging warm yun MS tweeter compare to Dali. ;D ;D

Late night? Grabe, anong time ba kayo inabot dyan kina Akyat?  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 06, 2005 at 05:21 PM
Late night? Grabe, anong time ba kayo inabot dyan kina Akyat?  :)

11:30pm na ata walang sawang kwentuhan.. 3x ako tumayo ayaw paring nila umalis hehehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iceman90a on Sep 06, 2005 at 06:50 PM
pano aalis eh may gulaman na ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Sep 06, 2005 at 07:04 PM
11:30pm na ata walang sawang kwentuhan.. 3x ako tumayo ayaw paring nila umalis hehehehe

huh.... buti na lang pala at hindi na kami nag-intay...  :o
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: devo on Sep 07, 2005 at 01:07 PM
guys clarification lang ha we'll be listening (again) to the 9.6 this sat, not the 9.5 or 9.4.

HELLO GUYS,
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: devo on Sep 07, 2005 at 01:12 PM
HELLO GUYS,

Hello guys, still on the entry level...... would like to ask, can an ONKYO501 drive the 9.6 easily? or can I settle with a 9.5 or 8.4 and still get the usual sound of a wharfedale floorstander? any suggestion would be fully appreciated.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 07, 2005 at 02:28 PM
Hello guys, still on the entry level...... would like to ask, can an ONKYO501 drive the 9.6 easily? or can I settle with a 9.5 or 8.4 and still get the usual sound of a wharfedale floorstander? any suggestion would be fully appreciated.

According sa spec ng diamond 9 you'll need 20watts and up to drive the speaker but i believe around 50watts will do justice already except you plan to play it loud like disco well mahihirapan hehehehe..

better audition with your amp.

cheers.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: devo on Sep 07, 2005 at 02:36 PM
According sa spec ng diamond 9 you'll need 20watts and up to drive the speaker but i believe around 50watts will do justice already except you plan to play it loud like disco well mahihirapan hehehehe..

better audition with your amp.

cheers.
Hello Hans, so do you think an 8.4 will do? or simply a bookshelf version is more advisable. Please advise what wharfe model is best compatible with a 501........... tnx for the response
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: m0b1u5 on Sep 07, 2005 at 02:59 PM
pasingit lang po...
I'm using a vintage Sansui AU-7700 (54 wpc) integrated amp to drive my 8.4.  10 o'clock lang anlakas na especially rock/alternative music.  my 8.2 naman is driven by an HK PM625 (20 wpc) alternatively by the 60 wpc HK PM645vxi the integrated.  best is to audition with your gear.  my two cents.

thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: devo on Sep 07, 2005 at 03:21 PM
pasingit lang po...
I'm using a vintage Sansui AU-7700 (54 wpc) integrated amp to drive my 8.4.  10 o'clock lang anlakas na especially rock/alternative music.  my 8.2 naman is driven by an HK PM625 (20 wpc) alternatively by the 60 wpc HK PM645vxi the integrated.  best is to audition with your gear.  my two cents.

thanks
thanks dennispm........ remembered kasi na the 501 was attached to a wharfe (bookshelf) when I bought it and I want to change to a floorstander, I saw one at Spectra on sale (just don't know the model). I just want to know HTers' inputs with regards to compatibility to higher ends of Wharfe........... as everybody says, bring your gears to war... tnx
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: arizton on Sep 07, 2005 at 03:24 PM
mga sir tanong ko lang po kung san pwede mag auditon nitong 9 series? tnx po
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: zakkaz on Sep 07, 2005 at 03:28 PM
mga sir tanong ko lang po kung san pwede mag auditon nitong 9 series? tnx po
sa spectra parksquare 1 makati
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: arizton on Sep 07, 2005 at 03:52 PM
question ulit sir,
may idea ka ba kung magkano yung series 9 or ung series 8?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Sep 07, 2005 at 04:14 PM
arizton,

price for 9 series starts at 5k up.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Sep 07, 2005 at 04:32 PM
pacino,

As i recall, 8.4 was a 120 watter, so you need an amp/receiver with a power of at least 60watts or more to drive it. wharf is known to be a hard to drive speaker. hope this will help.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: devo on Sep 07, 2005 at 04:41 PM
pacino,

As i recall, 8.4 was a 120 watter, so you need an amp/receiver with a power of at least 60watts or more to drive it. wharf is known to be a hard to drive speaker. hope this will help.
punk kid, based on specs I have on hand, the 8.4 is only a 100 watts RMS floorstander... isn't it still compatible with the 501. if not, can you recommend a compatible brand/version of a floorstander? tnx
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Sep 07, 2005 at 05:20 PM
I didn't own an Onkyo amp/receiver so I can't say they're compatible. I owned an 8.4 before and it was rated 120w per channel. For me, that speaker was boomy in my system so I replaced it with an 8.3.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: devo on Sep 07, 2005 at 05:27 PM
I didn't own an Onkyo amp/receiver so I can't say they're compatible. I owned an 8.4 before and it was rated 120w per channel. For me, that speaker was boomy in my system so I replaced it with an 8.3.
assuming the 8.4 is really a 120 watter, will the 5 watt difference per channel have a big effect on the sound quality and avr performance or is it much ok to use a 100 watter but 8 ohms. The reason I prefer Wharfe is it has the same 6 ohm specs as with the 501. tnx
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 07, 2005 at 05:41 PM
Hello Hans, so do you think an 8.4 will do? or simply a bookshelf version is more advisable. Please advise what wharfe model is best compatible with a 501........... tnx for the response

How big is your listening room/area? floorstander may sound boomy in some small room but may also sound very good in few. btw whats your previous speaker? or your just starting to big one?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: devo on Sep 07, 2005 at 05:46 PM
How big is your listening room/area? floorstander may sound boomy in some small room but may also sound very good in few. btw whats your previous speaker? or your just starting to big one?
room is approx 4x6m, and the 501 is currently with a paradigm bookshelf (95w, 4-8ohms) and a US Audio 508. the area is a dedicated HT room.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 07, 2005 at 05:54 PM
room is approx 4x6m, and the 501 is currently with a paradigm bookshelf (95w, 4-8ohms) and a US Audio 508. the area is a dedicated HT room.

With your room try the 8.3 or 9.4 single woofers baka kasi with double woofers maging boomy.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: devo on Sep 07, 2005 at 05:58 PM
With your room try the 8.3 or 9.4 single woofers baka kasi with double woofers maging boomy.
thanks a lot Hans, would seriously consider your recommendation.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: arizton on Sep 07, 2005 at 09:11 PM
hello mga sir,
   another stupid question coming from a first timer!  ;D un bang wharfedale na 9.1
that has a price of 5.5k does it mean na 5.5k a piece or pair? ( pasensya na mga sir
di ko kc alam, package kc ng kenwood yung binili ko e...)
tnx po..!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Sep 07, 2005 at 09:16 PM
hello mga sir,
   another stupid question coming from a first timer!  ;D un bang wharfedale na 9.1
that has a price of 5.5k does it mean na 5.5k a piece or pair? ( pasensya na mga sir
di ko kc alam, package kc ng kenwood yung binili ko e...)
tnx po..!

Speakers are usually priced per pair. Except for center speakers and subs.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kemozavi on Sep 07, 2005 at 11:03 PM
Hi!!! mga sir tanong ko lang kasi balak kong bumili ng wharfedale diamond 9.3 kaya lang most of the stores doesn't carry the model hindi daw masyado gusto, alanganin ang size and boomy,,,

i will be using it sana for ht and audio 50/50 po ako,,, i'll be using an hk avr130 to drive it,,, is the model really that bad? or shall i go for the 9.2 the 9.5 or the 9.6 instead?

i just like the fact na it's a bookshelf with an 8" woofer.  :-[
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 08, 2005 at 07:11 AM
Hi!!! mga sir tanong ko lang kasi balak kong bumili ng wharfedale diamond 9.3 kaya lang most of the stores doesn't carry the model hindi daw masyado gusto, alanganin ang size and boomy,,,

i will be using it sana for ht and audio 50/50 po ako,,, i'll be using an hk avr130 to drive it,,, is the model really that bad? or shall i go for the 9.2 the 9.5 or the 9.6 instead?

i just like the fact na it's a bookshelf with an 8" woofer.  :-[

Not really bad just like the shop said alanganin yun size audition mo try spectra they carry HK and wharf.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kemozavi on Sep 08, 2005 at 07:53 AM
Sir natry konarin yung spectra hindi nayata sila kumukuha ng 9.3, baka ang gawin ko nalang nito is orderin ko nalang, hindi ko pa siya personally na aaudition e,  baka may review kayo. ;D

For the owners and those who were able to audition the 9.3 how would you compare it po with the 9.2 and the 9.5?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: arizton on Sep 08, 2005 at 08:43 AM
sir bumblebee,
 thank u po sir, now i can budget my money! another question po sir, my receiver is 100w per channel ok lang po bang gumamit ako ng 150 to 200w na speakers? comment din po sana kung ok po yung series 8 ng wharfedale for both music & ht & meron pa po bang nabibiling series 8?
tnx ng marami sir bumblebee!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Sep 08, 2005 at 08:56 AM
sir bumblebee,
 thank u po sir, now i can budget my money! another question po sir, my receiver is 100w per channel ok lang po bang gumamit ako ng 150 to 200w na speakers? comment din po sana kung ok po yung series 8 ng wharfedale for both music & ht & meron pa po bang nabibiling series 8?
tnx ng marami sir bumblebee!!!

Just get the 9 series. Hindi naman malayo ang presyo e. I have not owned the 8's but have read comments that the 9's are better. Yung 150 to 200w sa speakers e power handling yan. It means the speakers can take 200w of power continously na hindi sya masisira. Most speakers can take more than that but for short bursts lang.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: arizton on Sep 08, 2005 at 11:33 AM
ok sir bumblebee tnx for the info.. :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: alistair on Sep 08, 2005 at 11:48 AM
i will be using it sana for ht and audio 50/50 po ako,,, i'll be using an hk avr130 to drive it,,, is the model really that bad? or shall i go for the 9.2 the 9.5 or the 9.6 instead?
I have a very similar setup in my small apartment (about 3m x 4m listening space), using a HK AVR 130.

Was considering the 9.5's for a while but when I auditioned them side-by-side with the 9.4 at Spectra parang the 9.5 was bright and harsh - but it was probably because kakalabas lang niya sa box. In any case, I wasn't convinced that the 3t peso difference between the two really mattered for my small space. I was considering the 9.1 bookshelves to save a little but when I added up the cost of good stands the 9.4's ended up being cheaper.
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i just like the fact na it's a bookshelf with an 8" woofer.  :-[
True, but depending on your room size you might not really need nor appreciatie it. Plus, for HT you'll want to get a suitable sub anyway for the bass notes... this is why I settled for the 9.4's.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: devo on Sep 08, 2005 at 01:20 PM
I have a very similar setup in my small apartment (about 3m x 4m listening space), using a HK AVR 130.

Was considering the 9.5's for a while but when I auditioned them side-by-side with the 9.4 at Spectra parang the 9.5 was bright and harsh - but it was probably because kakalabas lang niya sa box. In any case, I wasn't convinced that the 3t peso difference between the two really mattered for my small space. I was considering the 9.1 bookshelves to save a little but when I added up the cost of good stands the 9.4's ended up being cheaper.True, but depending on your room size you might not really need nor appreciatie it. Plus, for HT you'll want to get a suitable sub anyway for the bass notes... this is why I settled for the 9.4's.
Hello Alistair, how much did you get the 9.4 from Spectra?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: alistair on Sep 08, 2005 at 03:44 PM
Hello Alistair, how much did you get the 9.4 from Spectra?
List price is 9,700. You should be able to get a slight discount if you buy a lot of items at once, madali naman sila kausap eh.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: devo on Sep 08, 2005 at 03:59 PM
List price is 9,700. You should be able to get a slight discount if you buy a lot of items at once, madali naman sila kausap eh.
di pala bumaba price since 2004...... thnx for the feedback
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: alistair on Sep 08, 2005 at 04:43 PM
di pala bumaba price since 2004
Hindi nga eh. But then again, considering weakened peso vs. $, inflation, rising fuel costs etc. - it all evens out. Baka nga daw tumaas pa ang prices all-around if expanded VAT takes effect... If you're looking for an alternative, someone's selling 10 month old Gales (1 pair floorstanders + 1 centre) in the marketplace. I'd get those if I hadn't gotten my Wharfes already. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: arizton on Sep 08, 2005 at 08:34 PM
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If you're looking for an alternative, someone's selling 10 month old Gales (1 pair floorstanders + 1 centre) in the marketplace.
sir parang interesado ko dito? san po kya ito & u hv an idea how much?
tnx po
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: alistair on Sep 09, 2005 at 01:38 PM
sir parang interesado ko dito? san po kya ito & u hv an idea how much?
Check out this thread (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=41508.0). :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: devo on Sep 09, 2005 at 02:23 PM
Hindi nga eh. But then again, considering weakened peso vs. $, inflation, rising fuel costs etc. - it all evens out. Baka nga daw tumaas pa ang prices all-around if expanded VAT takes effect... If you're looking for an alternative, someone's selling 10 month old Gales (1 pair floorstanders + 1 centre) in the marketplace. I'd get those if I hadn't gotten my Wharfes already. :)
will this be compatible with on ONKYO 501?.. saw it yesterday but not knowledgeable on 4-8ohms impdnce
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: alistair on Sep 09, 2005 at 05:43 PM
will this be compatible with on ONKYO 501?.. saw it yesterday but not knowledgeable on 4-8ohms impdnce
The Gales? Best to ask the seller but looking at the specs of the Onkyo 501 (8 ohms target speaker impedance) and the Gales I'd say they are.

Here's another thread (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=29143.0) with more info on impedance matching.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: keema on Sep 11, 2005 at 08:13 AM
sir, san ba yang spectra?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 11, 2005 at 08:17 AM
sir, san ba yang spectra?


Park Square 1
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Superman on Sep 11, 2005 at 08:22 AM
spectra is at park square 1, makati...thanks! :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Sep 14, 2005 at 01:06 PM
hello mga sirs,
I have read so much about the now "famed" 9 series. It is such a delight to see how cheap these babies go here in Pinas. I just sold my Klipsch speakers and am considering of getting wharfs again. I will use these purely for music duties. What series would you highly recommend and why? I dont have an amp either so please help me..

setting up my audio system again. TY :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 14, 2005 at 01:19 PM
hello mga sirs,
I have read so much about the now "famed" 9 series. It is such a delight to see how cheap these babies go here in Pinas. I just sold my Klipsch speakers and am considering of getting wharfs again. I will use these purely for music duties. What series would you highly recommend and why? I dont have an amp either so please help me..

setting up my audio system again. TY :)

Bro,

If you have the space consider the 9.6.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Sep 14, 2005 at 01:59 PM
hi hans,

I have rather big but not gigantic living area..siguro mga 18 sqm. tall ceiling..what do you suggest I go with?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Sep 14, 2005 at 02:03 PM
hi hans,

I have rather big but not gigantic living area..siguro mga 18 sqm. tall ceiling..what do you suggest I go with?

same here.. wharfes are also my personal choice... ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Sep 14, 2005 at 02:06 PM
18 sq m? 9.6 na nga ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 14, 2005 at 02:13 PM
hi hans,

I have rather big but not gigantic living area..siguro mga 18 sqm. tall ceiling..what do you suggest I go with?

Bro, tamang tama pala yan space mo.. what amp do you plan to use?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Sep 14, 2005 at 02:17 PM
hans and bumblebee,

si Slayer kasi was really impressed with it and he said I should audition them asap.
I dont have an amp yet since I just sold my vintage tube din. I still plan to get a tube :)
but the 9.6 requires high watt power daw..as per phone conversations with caloy (wathifi).

what amps do you suggest? thanks mga bros
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Sep 14, 2005 at 02:23 PM
How about the NAD C352? 80wpc.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Sep 14, 2005 at 02:26 PM
I didnt have good results kasi before.

was using a NADC350 with wharfdales 8.3 before...not so satisifying. :(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 14, 2005 at 02:46 PM
hans and bumblebee,

si Slayer kasi was really impressed with it and he said I should audition them asap.
I dont have an amp yet since I just sold my vintage tube din. I still plan to get a tube :)
but the 9.6 requires high watt power daw..as per phone conversations with caloy (wathifi).

what amps do you suggest? thanks mga bros

Agree... try to PM Jetok meron sya 9.6 paired with ST70 and AMX amp. ;D ;D heard it and IMHO impressive. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Sep 14, 2005 at 05:58 PM
medyo OT but not so much... ;D


where can i get wharfedale stickers or that thing thats on the speaker screen but a bit larger...i want replace the perfectview logo on the speaker stands with wharfedales sana...

that is kung meron...hehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lmerb on Sep 15, 2005 at 02:12 AM
San kaya magandang bumili ng 9.1? San kaya cheapest.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Sep 15, 2005 at 08:20 AM
I didnt have good results kasi before.

was using a NADC350 with wharfdales 8.3 before...not so satisifying. :(

Have u tried Rotel Amp?  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 15, 2005 at 04:28 PM
Guys,

Meron daw Wharf 9.6 sa AA for demo this good if your scouting speakers tapos Concept 6 & 9.6 are in your list. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Jepoyz on Sep 16, 2005 at 11:44 AM
Mga sirs, how much kaya yung wharfs na 9.6?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Sep 16, 2005 at 01:36 PM
circe,

I paired my rotel 931 with my Missions. Good but not on loud levels. It clips the speakers. I traded the amp with a NAD CD player and been loving that since.
I then bought the NADC350 with the Wharfs 8.3...it not within my expectation as what WHAT HIFI magazine described as the a perfect match. - sounds rather dull to me. So I sold the Wharfs and replaced the NAD amp with vintage tubes...loving it eversince :)

I will try to audition if what they say about the 9.6 is true. If the soundstage is really a wow. I have yet to hear it...but am quite excited about it. dami na kasi nagreccomend :)

wish me luck! 8)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Sep 16, 2005 at 02:30 PM
baka medyo OT but it involves my 9.1s naman...

i hooked up my brandnew second hand 440 receiver to my brandnew second hand diamond 9.1 (hehehe)...tapos since my 21 inch samsung TV (CT-21M20MQ) does not have audio out i had a Y connector connected to the earphone jack to the audio in of the receiver...so ok...nag work naman

now the questions....

why is it that every time i change the channel...there is popping-booming sound.  ganun din kapag when i turn off the TV.  kaka-paranoid kasi...parang biglang meron power surge sa speakers that causes the booming sound.  kasi parang nag-cut of yung sound tapos kapag nag engage na yung changing of chanels ayun biglang boom...

other facts...(wasn't able to experiment na kasi)

naka-on yung turbo sound feature and MTS settings.  maybe i should try naka-off yun.  but is that normal?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jcob on Sep 16, 2005 at 02:55 PM
circe,

I paired my rotel 931 with my Missions. Good but not on loud levels. It clips the speakers. I traded the amp with a NAD CD player and been loving that since.
I then bought the NADC350 with the Wharfs 8.3...it not within my expectation as what WHAT HIFI magazine described as the a perfect match. - sounds rather dull to me. So I sold the Wharfs and replaced the NAD amp with vintage tubes...loving it eversince :)

I will try to audition if what they say about the 9.6 is true. If the soundstage is really a wow. I have yet to hear it...but am quite excited about it. dami na kasi nagreccomend :)

wish me luck! 8)
Sir,

I suggest you listen and audition it at Architectural Audio. There's a Wharfedale 9.6 there and lots of other speaker for comparisson.

Just like you I'm very curious on how it sounds and its good reviews but after comparing it with the DALI concept 6, nalipat yung attention ko sa DALI. of course this is just my personnal observation and preference.

Good Luck sir.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 16, 2005 at 03:56 PM
Sir,

I suggest you listen and audition it at Architectural Audio. There's a Wharfedale 9.6 there and lots of other speaker for comparisson.

Just like you I'm very curious on how it sounds and its good reviews but after comparing it with the DALI concept 6, nalipat yung attention ko sa DALI. of course this is just my personnal observation and preference.

Good Luck sir.



Tama audition talaga dapat pero take consideration of your room kasi iba rin sound sa shop ;D ;D ;D.... It may sound very good for me but my not suite your taste.. what i notice with Wharf btw got Evo30 and 9.2..they are not the flashy type na detail and bass agad di lang yan criteria. ;) ;).  ;D ;D  parang sonus faber ( opss di sila pala magka league ;D ;D ;D ) on the warm side.


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Sep 16, 2005 at 04:20 PM

Tama audition talaga dapat pero take consideration of your room kasi iba rin sound sa shop ;D ;D ;D.... It may sound very good for me but my not suite your taste.. what i notice with Wharf btw got Evo30 and 9.2..they are not the flashy type na detail and bass agad di lang yan criteria. ;) ;).  ;D ;D  parang sonus faber ( opss di sila pala magka league ;D ;D ;D ) on the warm side.





sir hans,

alam ko ang type mo........natural sounding speakers na walang coloration like the wharf evo30. :)  tama ba ako?  ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 16, 2005 at 04:28 PM

sir hans,

alam ko ang type mo........natural sounding speakers na walang coloration like the wharf evo30. :)  tama ba ako?  ::)

Sino ba hindi gusto neutral/natural sounding speaker??  gusto mo swap? ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Sep 16, 2005 at 04:43 PM
Sino ba hindi gusto neutral/natural sounding speaker??  gusto mo swap? ;D ;D ;D

sir hans,

wag po! wag po! (ot na tayo sir hans)

ang gusto mo rin ay yung hindi nakakapagod pakinggan at flexible in different music genre.  yung pwede mo pakinggan ng matagal at hindi sasakit tenga mo.  :)  tama ba ako ulit?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Sep 16, 2005 at 04:46 PM
circe,

I paired my rotel 931 with my Missions. Good but not on loud levels. It clips the speakers. I traded the amp with a NAD CD player and been loving that since.
I then bought the NADC350 with the Wharfs 8.3...it not within my expectation as what WHAT HIFI magazine described as the a perfect match. - sounds rather dull to me. So I sold the Wharfs and replaced the NAD amp with vintage tubes...loving it eversince :)

I will try to audition if what they say about the 9.6 is true. If the soundstage is really a wow. I have yet to hear it...but am quite excited about it. dami na kasi nagreccomend :)

wish me luck! 8)

goodluck bro! hope to hear it too!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 16, 2005 at 05:00 PM
sir hans,

wag po! wag po! (ot na tayo sir hans)

ang gusto mo rin ay yung hindi nakakapagod pakinggan at flexible in different music genre.  yung pwede mo pakinggan ng matagal at hindi sasakit tenga mo.  :)  tama ba ako ulit?

Tumpak sir jetok!! ;D ;D ;D warm pero transparent with nice imaging, yun presence ng singer and instrument are spot on, di harsh and aggressive kahit lakasan and a little sweetness sa vocals.. ;D yun mid bass sana analytical may tono hindi tum tum ang dating.. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Sep 16, 2005 at 05:04 PM
Tumpak sir jetok!! ;D ;D ;D warm pero transparent with nice imaging, yun presence ng singer and instrument are spot on, di harsh and aggressive kahit lakasan and a little sweetness sa vocals.. ;D yun mid bass sana analytical may tono hindi tum tum ang dating.. :)

tum tum?  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 16, 2005 at 05:07 PM
boom boom  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bravoexo on Sep 19, 2005 at 06:18 PM
Hi,

I've tried to look, but can't find a listing of current prices of these Wharfedale's.  I've got a pair of the old 8.4's, driven by HK AVR330.... but the binding posts were of poor quality, rotted away in just a 18 months time from continuous dog and puppy abuse... he he he...   I'm thinking of replacing them with new ones...   I've got a 7x10 room to fill up too.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: alistair on Sep 20, 2005 at 11:25 AM
Somebody's selling a pair of 9.4's, a 9CM, a pair of WH2's and a US Audio 12" sub in the marketplace for a package price of P22k (5 months old). I think that's a bargain. Would get it if I didn't already have my setup...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 22, 2005 at 12:28 PM
Somebody's selling a pair of 9.4's, a 9CM, a pair of WH2's and a US Audio 12" sub in the marketplace for a package price of P22k (5 months old). I think that's a bargain. Would get it if I didn't already have my setup...

Uy good bargain na yun scouting for Center ito ok 9CM. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Sep 22, 2005 at 04:32 PM
Uy good bargain na yun scouting for Center ito ok 9CM. :)

i agree 100%.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: doorknob2k1 on Oct 02, 2005 at 02:19 AM
sw-150 owners... if you have time... kindly post personal reviews. i'm just about ready (financially) to get one... need some more encouragement.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Oct 02, 2005 at 10:33 AM
sw-150 owners... if you have time... kindly post personal reviews. i'm just about ready (financially) to get one... need some more encouragement.  :)

my take on the sw150:

for audio:

we paired it with whaf 9.1 and 9.2 hooked up to a tube preamp with preouts.  it is fast and tight.  no overhang.  integration with the 9s were seamless but i don't know with other brand of speakers. i liked it.

fot ht:

i used it in a 12sqm area with my 9.6 and 9cm with my yamaha 440 driving it.  seamless pa rin yung integration ng base with the rest of the speakers.  enough to fill the room which was greatly enhanced by the base coming from the 8 inch driver of the 9.6. compared to a bigger sub like dq12 which was loaned by a friend, the dq12 digs down deeper. 

wharf's recommendation :

small room (up to 12sqm)

ok to pair it with 9.1 or 9.2

medium room (12 to 18sqm)

ok to pair with 9.2.

i don't know why they did not pair it with a floorstander like the 9.4 or 9.5.

hope this will help you in making your decision.  :)


pahabol:  my neighbor complained when i was using the dq12 as my sub but did not when i was using the sw150.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: doorknob2k1 on Oct 02, 2005 at 12:19 PM
my take on the sw150:

for audio:

we paired it with whaf 9.1 and 9.2 hooked up to a tube preamp with preouts.  it is fast and tight.  no overhang.  integration with the 9s were seamless but i don't know with other brand of speakers. i liked it.

fot ht:

i used it in a 12sqm area with my 9.6 and 9cm with my yamaha 440 driving it.  seamless pa rin yung integration ng base with the rest of the speakers.  enough to fill the room which was greatly enhanced by the base coming from the 8 inch driver of the 9.6. compared to a bigger sub like dq12 which was loaned by a friend, the dq12 digs down deeper. 

wharf's recommendation :

small room (up to 12sqm)

ok to pair it with 9.1 or 9.2

medium room (12 to 18sqm)

ok to pair with 9.2.

i don't know why they did not pair it with a floorstander like the 9.4 or 9.5.

hope this will help you in making your decision.  :)


pahabol:  my neighbor complained when i was using the dq12 as my sub but did not when i was using the sw150.  ;D



great! thanks jetok! :) i'll be adding this (sw150) to my 9.1 and 9.cs driven by a marantz sr4400... one of the factors i need to consider is the dimensions of the subwoofer. my room is very small... something like 8feet x 10feet only... its a bedroom... so sobrang liit na ng space. if only i could afford a REL Quake.  ::) ??? ::)   i wish!  ;D

one last thing... what's the dimension of the box... and how heavy is it? i don't have a car and most probably will hand carry it just like when i got my 9.1s.  :-\


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jambam on Oct 02, 2005 at 01:14 PM
I too have a sw150..

I pair it w/ a pair of Epos Es14's as fronts and 9.1 'for rear... and Marantz Sr4500 as amplifier

For my application where my room is only about 8-9 sq meters... It's more than enough . Actaully a bigger one might be too boomy in my room..

Intergration is seemless both for music and the occational movie on my PC.. Really recomended for a small room. The box is square and would be difficult to carry for an extended period. About as heavy as a pair of 9.1's
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Superman on Oct 02, 2005 at 02:01 PM
...i wonder who's the new wharfedale diamond 9.6 owner? :D CONGRATS! enjoy your new toys...kaya pala parang nagkaroon ng surplus shop, hehehe! :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Gubs on Oct 02, 2005 at 03:16 PM
@doorknob2k1

I have the SW 150 with a similar reciever Marantz4500.I think one of the most important adjustments one can make to avoid distortion in movies ,the dreaded Grrrr. sound is to set minus 10 on the lfe adjusted through the surround paramreters. This gives the sub a cleaner slightly lower signal which in turn can be turned up higher through the sub and reciever gain controls.This gives the sw a powerful enough punch which I wish would go slightly lower.thats Why im thingking of pairing it with a DQ 12.Hope this helps
Gubs
.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: doorknob2k1 on Oct 02, 2005 at 06:54 PM
Great! thanks for your inputs... jetok, jambam & gubs. i really appreciate it.  :) 
hopefully before this week ends i'll be tinkering with my very own sw-150.  ;)

Gubs, will pm you soon about those settings you mentioned.

Cheers!  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Oct 03, 2005 at 08:08 AM
Hi fellow wharfs user,

Since 9.4 is bi-wire enable, i just wanna ask if its ok to connect the other 2 terminals (+,-) to another amp?
I dont bi-wire pa kasi my 9.4. It is currently connected to my receiver, but then i want to connect sana the other two remaining terminal to other amp para sa audio naman...ok lang ba yon? Hope for your advice sirs..
Thanks in advance... ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Oct 03, 2005 at 08:17 AM
Hi fellow wharfs user,

Since 9.4 is bi-wire enable, i just wanna ask if its ok to connect the other 2 terminals (+,-) to another amp?
I dont bi-wire pa kasi my 9.4. It is currently connected to my receiver, but then i want to connect sana the other two remaining terminal to other amp para sa audio naman...ok lang ba yon? Hope for your advice sirs..
Thanks in advance... ;)

This assumes retaining the jumpers right? I read about similar setup in ecoustics. What happened was the active amp shut down. It was believed that the other amp became an added load for the active amp.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Oct 03, 2005 at 08:23 AM
This assumes retaining the jumpers right? I read about similar setup in ecoustics. What happened was the active amp shut down. It was believed that the other amp became an added load for the active amp.

sir, what if i disconnect the jumpers? natatamad kasi ako magpalipat-lipat ng speaker wires from avr and audio amp..thanks sir  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Oct 03, 2005 at 08:32 AM
sir, what if i disconnect the jumpers? natatamad kasi ako magpalipat-lipat ng speaker wires from avr and audio amp..thanks sir  :)

Using the amp connected to the HF will give you HF only. Same goes for the amp connected to the LF, LF only.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Oct 03, 2005 at 08:41 AM
Using the amp connected to the HF will give you HF only. Same goes for the amp connected to the LF, LF only.

sir, pardon my ignorance,  :-\whats exactly HF and LF means? ??? Actually, when i was trying to bi-wired it, the other 2 terminals cannot accomodate banana plugs..wala yatang butas..eto po ba yung sinasabi nyo na LF? yung HF po ba ang pwede kabitan ng banana plugs? thanks po ulit.. :-*
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Oct 03, 2005 at 08:57 AM
HF-high frequency (tweeters), LF-low frequency (woofers). The binding posts can accomodate bananas. Kuha ka ng knife tapos i-pluck mo yung pula at itim na plastic.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Oct 03, 2005 at 09:07 AM
HF-high frequency (tweeters), LF-low frequency (woofers). The binding posts can accomodate bananas. Kuha ka ng knife tapos i-pluck mo yung pula at itim na plastic.

ah ok sir..thanks for the advice..looks like lipat lipat na lang when shifting from audio amp and my avr..
thanks God we have this forum to provide answers...Thanks again sir.. ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 03, 2005 at 11:28 AM
Hi fellow wharfs user,

Since 9.4 is bi-wire enable, i just wanna ask if its ok to connect the other 2 terminals (+,-) to another amp?
I dont bi-wire pa kasi my 9.4. It is currently connected to my receiver, but then i want to connect sana the other two remaining terminal to other amp para sa audio naman...ok lang ba yon? Hope for your advice sirs..
Thanks in advance... ;)

Tried that before pero di pwede you'll notice meron distortion sa sound pag dalawa naka hook up sa speaker mo even isa naka on while the other is off..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Oct 03, 2005 at 11:31 AM
Tried that before pero di pwede you'll notice meron distortion sa sound pag dalawa naka hook up sa speaker mo even isa naka on while the other is off..

Ah ok.. thanks sir. tiyagain ko na lang magpalipat -lipat ng speaker wire.. Thanks master hans... ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 03, 2005 at 11:33 AM
sw-150 owners... if you have time... kindly post personal reviews. i'm just about ready (financially) to get one... need some more encouragement.  :)

If you like a fast sub for audio 8" is good while for HT 12" naman pero mabagal sa audio. most important syempre kahit na 8" or 12" is the seemless integration with your front speaker. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kt on Oct 03, 2005 at 11:55 AM
I have the SW 150 with a similar reciever Marantz4500.I think one of the most important adjustments one can make to avoid distortion in movies ,the dreaded Grrrr. sound is to set minus 10 on the lfe adjusted through the surround paramreters. This gives the sub a cleaner slightly lower signal which in turn can be turned up higher through the sub and reciever gain controls.This gives the sw a powerful enough punch which I wish would go slightly lower.thats Why im thingking of pairing it with a DQ 12.Hope this helps
Gubs
.

bro gubs! sang setting po tong sinasabi mo -10? iba pa po ba yan dun sa gain ng mga speakers n SW? tnx
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Gubs on Oct 03, 2005 at 01:26 PM
@Kt
Nasa main menu sya no.4 for SURROUND pagkatapos ng preference no.3.May tatlong setting sya for LFE, -10db, 0db at OFF.
Iba pa siya sa subwoofer volume control at sa reciever subwoofer +/-  gain control.Hope this helps
Gubs
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kt on Oct 03, 2005 at 01:39 PM
bro gubs! ah ok cge check ko ltr. ano ba diffrence ng mga -10 & 0 sa setting na yun? n sa SW gain mo ilan naka set mo? so dba under sya sa Surround setting? so di sya gagana sa stereo mode? tnx
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Gubs on Oct 03, 2005 at 02:20 PM
@kT
Para sa lfe channel lang sya.D sya naka effect ng two channel lang. Mas mahina ang LFE o.1 channel sa movies pag-10 kesa sa 0 kaya less distortion sya kapag malakas ang volume ,set ko lang ang sub gain sa 10 to 11  oclock at reciever sub gain sa +2 o+3. Pag nasa 0db ang lfe garalgal ang sub kaagad . Pag hinaan ang sub volume at reciever gain kulang naman sa punch kaagad.Mas malawak ang range mo bago magdistort kapag -10.hope this helps.
Gubs
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kt on Oct 03, 2005 at 03:10 PM
bro gubs tnx i'll try that out!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: doorknob2k1 on Oct 03, 2005 at 08:00 PM
... most important syempre kahit na 8" or 12" is the seemless integration with your front speaker. :)

yup! mas importante ata yun for me. that's why kahit mabigat ng konte sa bulsa e i've decided to get the sw150... soon!
plus it would be kinda nice to look at (i think) kse parepareho ang itsura ng speakers. won't hear the wife say "ano ba yan? baket iba-iba?!"   ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 04, 2005 at 10:58 AM
yup! mas importante ata yun for me. that's why kahit mabigat ng konte sa bulsa e i've decided to get the sw150... soon!
plus it would be kinda nice to look at (i think) kse parepareho ang itsura ng speakers. won't hear the wife say "ano ba yan? baket iba-iba?!"   ;D

Agree hirap magalit si kumander. ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 04, 2005 at 09:57 PM
wanderlust,

Congrats sa new 9.6 and 9CM mo sir.. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Superman on Oct 05, 2005 at 07:38 AM
wanderlust,

Congrats sa new 9.6 and 9CM mo sir.. ;D ;D ;D

the news is now out...CONGRATS ATTORNEY! :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 05, 2005 at 11:03 AM
salamat mga sir... eto pala ang kabilng ibayo n sinasabi ni vince.


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Oct 05, 2005 at 11:15 AM
congrats sir wanderlust and enjoy!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 05, 2005 at 11:18 AM
thank you cire.... parang ayaw ko na sanang pumasok e.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Oct 05, 2005 at 11:20 AM
thnx you cire.... parang ayaw ko na sanang pumasok e. hehehe

wag na muna sir... 8) enjoy muna your new toy! hehehe  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Oct 05, 2005 at 11:22 AM
salamat mga sir... eto pala ang kabilng ibayo n sinasabi ni vince.




Sir,

Pa-elaborate naman :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 05, 2005 at 11:32 AM
d pwede sir, baka mawalan pambayad sa new toy e.  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Oct 05, 2005 at 11:35 AM
d pwede sir, baka mawalan pambayad sa new toy e.  ;)

Ok, Sir :) And congrats pala (nakalimutan ko) :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Oct 05, 2005 at 11:50 AM
CONGRATS SIR !!! konting fine-tuning na lang yan...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 05, 2005 at 12:07 PM
Sir,

Pa-elaborate naman :)

nagpost kasi si iceman na "binuking ka sa don sa kabilang ibayo".  d ko pa kasi inaamin sa kanila e2 e. hehehe.

thnx sir bumblebee.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 05, 2005 at 12:17 PM
CONGRATS SIR !!! konting fine-tuning na lang yan...

yup.... hopefully mahanap din nating yang match made in heaven. but as early as now im quite contented, tsaka considering na brek-n period pa, not much qualms muna. but the jumper u gave me really help.

thnx and thnx again. pasyal ka minsan sir  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mandrake on Oct 05, 2005 at 01:37 PM
yup.... hopefully mahanap din nating yang match made in heaven. but as early as now im quite contented, tsaka considering na brek-n period pa, not much qualms muna. but the jumper u gave me really help.

thnx and thnx again. pasyal ka minsan sir  ;)

Congrats brod!!  Natuloy na pala ung binanggit mo sa akin ;D  Ngayon pareho tayong fine tuning and matchmaking ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Oct 05, 2005 at 01:55 PM
yup.... hopefully mahanap din nating yang match made in heaven. but as early as now im quite contented, tsaka considering na brek-n period pa, not much qualms muna. but the jumper u gave me really help.

thnx and thnx again. pasyal ka minsan sir  ;)

give it another 50-100hours of breakin.  si hans 1 year yata breakin period.  ;D

peace po tayo.  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 05, 2005 at 05:08 PM
Congrats brod!!  Natuloy na pala ung binanggit mo sa akin ;D  Ngayon pareho tayong fine tuning and matchmaking ;D

HEHEHE. d na kayang tiisin sir e. yup, same situation tayo ngayon, still this is the best part of it all the discovering what is and whats not....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 05, 2005 at 05:14 PM
give it another 50-100hours of breakin. si hans 1 year yata breakin period. ;D

peace po tayo. ;)

hay...  hammer time uli. buti na lang iniwan kung tumutugtug ngayon yn sa bahay ano, my 24 nako.... hehehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 06, 2005 at 04:12 PM
give it another 50-100hours of breakin.  si hans 1 year yata breakin period.  ;D

peace po tayo.  ;)

Tagal hehehehe pero worth it!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Jason_10 on Oct 06, 2005 at 07:04 PM
is the diamond 9 available in beech color? i plan to get a pair this week. my yammy floorstanders are taking up too much space. what store offers this speaker at the lowest price? i called up image, by order pa daw.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Oct 06, 2005 at 09:18 PM
is the diamond 9 available in beech color? i plan to get a pair this week. my yammy floorstanders are taking up too much space. what store offers this speaker at the lowest price? i called up image, by order pa daw.

Try Spectra, Park Square 1.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Oct 07, 2005 at 10:59 AM
is the diamond 9 available in beech color? i plan to get a pair this week. my yammy floorstanders are taking up too much space. what store offers this speaker at the lowest price? i called up image, by order pa daw.
Sir, what model of the diamond 9 are you looking for? If you want you can call us at 818-5493 to talk about it further.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Jason_10 on Oct 09, 2005 at 12:38 AM
spectraav,

thanks! i just finished installing the speakers i bought from your shop. im really satisfied with the wharfdale 9.1. perfect match sila with my pioneer avr. would have stayed longer sana and check out your other products kaya lang nagmamadali ang madam ko. hehe. thanks again!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: doorknob2k1 on Oct 09, 2005 at 01:14 AM
another 9.x owner! welcome to the club! enjoy your new toy!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lmerb on Oct 09, 2005 at 08:34 AM
Sir spectraav,

How much for the diamond 9.1 and diamond center?

thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Oct 09, 2005 at 10:30 AM
spectraav,

thanks! i just finished installing the speakers i bought from your shop. im really satisfied with the wharfdale 9.1. perfect match sila with my pioneer avr. would have stayed longer sana and check out your other products kaya lang nagmamadali ang madam ko. hehe. thanks again!
Sir, thank you very much and you're welcome
drop by anytime if you have more time
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: doorknob2k1 on Oct 09, 2005 at 12:37 PM
to spectraav,

i bought a 9.cs last july 25, 2005 OR# 0660... and sa pagmamadali ko (malapit na ata din kayo mag close noon)... di ko napansin na yung jumpers nung binding posts e puro gasgas na. mukhang gamit na gamit na. im just wondering... baka naman pwede nyo itong palitan? hoping for your consideration.

thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: s2kov on Oct 09, 2005 at 03:22 PM
try mo din audience hook-up wire gauge 18, lilinaw pa yan! :)

spectraav,

i bought a 9.cs last may 2005... and sa pagmamadali ko (malapit na ata din kayo mag close noon)... di ko napansin na yung jumpers nung binding posts e puro gasgas na. mukhang gamit na gamit na. im just wondering... baka naman pwede itong palitan?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kt on Oct 10, 2005 at 12:34 PM
bro s2kov! wer meron nyang audience hookup wire? how much kaya po? tnx
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 10, 2005 at 12:38 PM
bro s2kov! wer meron nyang audience hookup wire? how much kaya po? tnx

Architectural Audio at Greenbelt carry them.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: eagumban on Oct 10, 2005 at 01:52 PM
Architectural Audio at Greenbelt carry them.

Hans,
I'm now using a puresonic hook-up wire (speaker wire) #14, ang audience hook-up ba ay may audible difference? Is the difference worth buying as compared to my puresonic? I cannot audition your mentioned hookup wire, I'm at the province, medyo matagal pa para makapunta ako dyan. My setup is diamond 9cs, 9.5, 9dfs and Yamaha RXV-1500.  ??? ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kt on Oct 10, 2005 at 02:01 PM
around how much ba hookup wires? n how do they look like? reg wires lang ba yun?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: s2kov on Oct 10, 2005 at 02:04 PM
to me, may difference from stock jumper wire to audience wire! ;D there's no harm on trying, this will only cost you php150 for your center and front speakers at 4" cut.! :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Oct 10, 2005 at 02:05 PM
to spectraav,

i bought a 9.cs last july 25, 2005 OR# 0660... and sa pagmamadali ko (malapit na ata din kayo mag close noon)... di ko napansin na yung jumpers nung binding posts e puro gasgas na. mukhang gamit na gamit na. im just wondering... baka naman pwede nyo itong palitan? hoping for your consideration.

thanks!

doorknob2k1,

Kelan mo ito napansin? From my experience, nangingitim talaga sila.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: s2kov on Oct 10, 2005 at 02:07 PM
Php75/foot, you just need 1ft red and 1ft black! ;D


around how much ba hookup wires? n how do they look like? reg wires lang ba yun?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kt on Oct 10, 2005 at 02:12 PM
ah...so theyr just regular speaker wires? so audience is a brand? tot kasi theyr really used as jumper replacements eh... so any other speaker wires will do? tnx
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Oct 10, 2005 at 03:00 PM
to spectraav,

i bought a 9.cs last july 25, 2005 OR# 0660... and sa pagmamadali ko (malapit na ata din kayo mag close noon)... di ko napansin na yung jumpers nung binding posts e puro gasgas na. mukhang gamit na gamit na. im just wondering... baka naman pwede nyo itong palitan? hoping for your consideration.

thanks!

same here. nagkaroon ng stain yung stock jumpers at nangingitim din.  i just clean them with a metal polish and balik na sa dati.  wag mo lang punasan ng punasan at baka mag-fade yung gold plating.  i don't use the jumpers kasi naka bi-wire ako.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 10, 2005 at 04:07 PM
i am currently using a qed silver anniversary speaker cable:

(http://www.qed.co.uk/cables/speaker/images/silver_insert.gif)

the result: a must hear.

paired it with the qunex 1:

(http://www.qed.co.uk/cables/incon/images/qunex_1_insert.gif)

and qunex 2 interconnects:

(http://www.qed.co.uk/cables/incon/images/qunex_2_insert.jpg)

and the results were simply amazing, and take note i am still in the break-in period.  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Oct 10, 2005 at 04:13 PM
Very nice plugs :) Sir wanderlust, how much for the plugs and where are QED's available?

(http://www.qed.co.uk/cables/speaker/images/silver_insert.gif)

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 10, 2005 at 04:18 PM
Very nice plugs :) Sir wanderlust, how much for the plugs and where are QED's available?

(http://www.qed.co.uk/cables/speaker/images/silver_insert.gif)



Available sa buy and sell section ng pinoydvd sir..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 10, 2005 at 04:20 PM
ooppss, i forgot, what i have is not pre-terminated am using ordinary banana plugs for it. my apologies. as i got this from a private source i can not really tell whos carrying the qed line and if they are selling the plugs. but i heard audio den is carrying the line, though i am not 100% certain.  
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Oct 10, 2005 at 04:22 PM
Thanks, Sirs. I saw the thread already :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 10, 2005 at 04:35 PM
Hans,
I'm now using a puresonic hook-up wire (speaker wire) #14, ang audience hook-up ba ay may audible difference? Is the difference worth buying as compared to my puresonic? I cannot audition your mentioned hookup wire, I'm at the province, medyo matagal pa para makapunta ako dyan. My setup is diamond 9cs, 9.5, 9dfs and Yamaha RXV-1500.  ??? ;D

Bro layo mo pala hehehe try mo silver wire as jumper like Belden in case meron dyan sa inyo. what i notice with copper and silver as jumpers is if you like airy highs and mids use silver now kung bass naman type mo use copper also learn copper gives music a little clearer than silver pero maybe due to the air.. have tried audience and agree din ako sa sabi ni s2kov clearer sya.

Guys not saying effective ito pero nothing wrong in trying. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kt on Oct 10, 2005 at 04:43 PM
so guys wat i did kasi is i used my current wire (QED 79) its 14ga...n cut off abt 5" each for the terminals. oks na ba ito compared sa audience that u were mentioning?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Oct 10, 2005 at 04:43 PM
...
Guys not saying effective ito pero nothing wrong in trying. ;D ;D ;D


I agree. Besides, hindi naman kamahalan, Php150.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 10, 2005 at 05:03 PM
I agree. Besides, hindi naman kamahalan, Php150.

Belden wire ( Silver ) pwede DIY ic for only P87.00 ata for a meter at True value park square.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/session1/Picture141.jpg)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kt on Oct 10, 2005 at 06:25 PM
bro hans! alin dyan yung belden? is that IC or speaker wires lang?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Oct 10, 2005 at 06:32 PM
bro hans! alin dyan yung belden? is that IC or speaker wires lang?

yung hook-up wires lang.  yung speaker wire niya ixos pakora (pangarap ko) yan.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kt on Oct 10, 2005 at 06:43 PM
bros! may pix pa ba kayo ng hookup wires lang? nalilito ako if may pinagkaiba ba yung hookup wires sa reg speaker wires eh...hehe tnx!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Oct 10, 2005 at 09:41 PM
hi kt..musta na?...sir hookup wires diy lang - cut any speaker cable 5-6"long. barewire or terminate with banana plugs. ive tried monster cable (tames the highs of bright tweeters) w/ b&w. Also qed silver/bronze anniversary and chord carnival classic cable strips as jumpers with wharfdale D9.1. (xperiment lang tho i prefer bi-wire from amp.)  just my mameras :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: doorknob2k1 on Oct 11, 2005 at 01:02 AM
whoa! dami na palang posts since i last checked this morning.  :) been busy all day... got me the sw-150 this afternoon. ;D been toying with it since i got home. tigil na muna... matutulog na mga tao dito e. :( 

talked to jose (spectra) na din about the jumpers... told me to bring it (jumpers) there... and then titignan kung ano pwede gawin.

doorknob2k1,
Kelan mo ito napansin? From my experience, nangingitim talaga sila.
same here. nagkaroon ng stain yung stock jumpers at nangingitim din.  i just clean them with a metal polish and balik na sa dati.  wag mo lang punasan ng punasan at baka mag-fade yung gold plating.  i don't use the jumpers kasi naka bi-wire ako.  :)
noticed it immediately the day i bought it when i got home na. nabaon na lang sa limot. naalala ko lang recently nung mejo madalas na akong magbasa ng mga posts dito. and it's not just that it's nangingitim... gasgas as in traces ng paggamit ng wires... and yung direction ng gasgas is pabilog din like when you turn the binding posts to tighten. gulo ata  ::)... i hope you get the picture. ;D makes me think tuloy pano nagkaroon ng gasgas yun kung banana plugs gamit nila jose when testing the speakers? baka naman pinalitan ng luma yung jumpers nung nabili kong 9.cs? ::) hmmm... ::)

wanna post pix sana pero wala nako phone with cam... sold it to get the 9.cs  ;D sa susunod isasanla ko na tong bahay namin para makabili ng plasma screen!  ;D ;D ;D


try mo din audience hook-up wire gauge 18, lilinaw pa yan! :)
thanks for your recommendation/suggestion. will try this sometime. thanks! :)

ot: checked out architectural audio also this afternoon... talked to epoy... nice guy. accomodating. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kt on Oct 11, 2005 at 10:45 AM
bro awadeh! musta din? oks pa naman...hehe nalito lang kasi ako sa topic nila wen they refer to it as hookup wires...tot iba pa yun eh! hehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: doorknob2k1 on Oct 11, 2005 at 12:14 PM
Quote from: spectraav
Sir
Just bring the jumper and we'll just change it

great! thanks! yan ang after sale service! di tulad nung iba jan na shops... puro benta ang nasa isip! pag nakabenta na... bahala ka na sa buhay mo.

more power and more sales spectraav!  :)

update:
oct 14 - i just had the jumpers replaced. thanks again spectraav. ;)

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: eagumban on Oct 11, 2005 at 01:28 PM
Bro layo mo pala hehehe try mo silver wire as jumper like Belden in case meron dyan sa inyo. what i notice with copper and silver as jumpers is if you like airy highs and mids use silver now kung bass naman type mo use copper also learn copper gives music a little clearer than silver pero maybe due to the air.. have tried audience and agree din ako sa sabi ni s2kov clearer sya.

Guys not saying effective ito pero nothing wrong in trying. ;D ;D ;D



Thanks hans. Meron naman akong paglalaroan.  Guys, if you have time, come to Bacolod City for the Masskara Festival, highlight this saturday and sunday.  Bring your ear plugs, masyadong malakas mga sounds nila.  Audiophiles... beware, baka mawala sa pandinig nyo ang high frequencies. . . He he he.   :) :) ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 11, 2005 at 02:51 PM
Thanks hans. Meron naman akong paglalaroan.  Guys, if you have time, come to Bacolod City for the Masskara Festival, highlight this saturday and sunday.  Bring your ear plugs, masyadong malakas mga sounds nila.  Audiophiles... beware, baka mawala sa pandinig nyo ang high frequencies. . . He he he.   :) :) ::)

Your welcome bro..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 11, 2005 at 05:00 PM
Thanks hans. Meron naman akong paglalaroan.  Guys, if you have time, come to Bacolod City for the Masskara Festival, highlight this saturday and sunday.  Bring your ear plugs, masyadong malakas mga sounds nila.  Audiophiles... beware, baka mawala sa pandinig nyo ang high frequencies. . . He he he.   :) :) ::)

taga bacolod ka gali sir, tumandok man bala ko dha, graduated from UNO-R ako. oo no, masskara na... wish i could come.

going back, i am using ibm jumpers (pang server), courtesy of sir awadeh al (salamat sir), very noticeable yong improvement from the usual jumper plate that comes with the speaker. sa center naman bi-wired HF-Lucent cables (pang PC server), LF- xlo vdo pro (er-14).
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: eagumban on Oct 11, 2005 at 10:52 PM
taga bacolod ka gali sir, tumandok man bala ko dha, graduated from UNO-R ako. oo no, masskara na... wish i could come.

going back, i am using ibm jumpers (pang server), courtesy of sir awadeh al (salamat sir), very noticeable yong improvement from the usual jumper plate that comes with the speaker. sa center naman bi-wired HF-Lucent cables (pang PC server), LF- xlo vdo pro (er-14).

What a small world, I also graduated at UNO-R.  Maybe our path will cross someday.  Pag may travel ako sa Manila, I'll make it my mission to visit the various stores you've all mentioned.

Hanap naman tayo ng mga wires.....experiment ng experiment ..... walang sawa... basta enjoy. He he he ;D ;D :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: krumen91 on Oct 12, 2005 at 07:46 PM
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Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bonzai on Oct 13, 2005 at 11:42 PM
To ALL WHARFDALE FANS!

FOR SALE!!!

WHARFDALE POWER CUBE SUBWOOFER!
12"  150 WATTS , ALMOST BRAND NEW
SELDOM USE! 1 YR. OLD

6K Negotiable!  RUSH

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sir kamusta po ba tunog ng power cubes? anong pinag-iba sa sw150?

comment pls.....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: backdraft on Oct 14, 2005 at 08:11 AM
bros, i have a diamond 8.4 for my fronts and planning to add a diamond 9 center, what do you suggest, get a used diamond 8 center for timbre matching or just get a new diamond 9 center?

TIA
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: alistair on Oct 14, 2005 at 10:11 AM
I'd go with the Diamond 8 center to ensure timbre matching. They didn't become any worse than before just because the 9's came out. They should even be cheaper and of better value (assuming brand new). You can get away with not-so-matched surround and rear speakers, but matching fronts and centers are critical.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: backdraft on Oct 15, 2005 at 08:35 AM
malaki ba difference ng d8 center sa d9 center. i'm more inclined to get the d9 center para mas bago na and iwas upgrade na ng center for the mean time.

other gurus, which do you prefer if you're gonna pair it with diamond 8.4?

thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 15, 2005 at 08:42 AM
malaki ba difference ng d8 center sa d9 center. i'm more inclined to get the d9 center para mas bago na and iwas upgrade na ng center for the mean time.

other gurus, which do you prefer if you're gonna pair it with diamond 8.4?

thanks

Agree with Alistar as much as possible same model yun center and fronts mo. pero pwede yun plan mo to get the 9 series center better audition them sa mga stores like spectra they carry both models.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Oct 15, 2005 at 07:26 PM
backdraft,

pwede rin get the 9 center then change the 8.4 to a 9 series. whatever your ears pleases you. audition....audition.....audition.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: alistair on Oct 16, 2005 at 09:22 PM
malaki ba difference ng d8 center sa d9 center. i'm more inclined to get the d9 center para mas bago na and iwas upgrade na ng center for the mean time.
Ahh... you didn't mention you were planning to upgrade.

If you're planning to upgrade real soon, then maybe go with the 9 center. On the other hand - why don't you upgrade your fronts first? After all, how much is a (brand new) 9CM? 5 thou or so? If you sell your 8.4's and go for 9.4's you'll probably end up spending less than that. I find that a center doesn't really add much unless you already have 2 fronts and 2 surrounds.

If you already have two surrounds (bale 4.0 or 4.1 ka na) then maybe go with a 9 center and then eventually 9's oldawei. Personally, though, why just the 9's? :D If you're seriously upgrading, why not go oldawei na rin and move up to the next price/performance 'bracket'? :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: doorknob2k1 on Oct 17, 2005 at 09:09 AM
share ko lang...

AV Review Group test: Budget speakers (http://www.avreview.co.uk/news/article/mps/UAN/474/v/5/)

proud owner of a 9.1  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Oct 17, 2005 at 09:09 AM
share ko lang...

AV Review Group test: Budget speakers (http://www.avreview.co.uk/news/article/mps/UAN/474/v/5/)

proud owner of a 9.1  ;D

Kababasa ko lang nyan :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Oct 17, 2005 at 09:53 AM
share ko lang...

AV Review Group test: Budget speakers (http://www.avreview.co.uk/news/article/mps/UAN/474/v/5/)

proud owner of a 9.1  ;D

Interesting to learn that the B&W 303 is priced the same as a Wharfedale 9.1 in English pounds. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Oct 17, 2005 at 10:10 AM
Interesting to learn that the B&W 303 is priced the same as a Wharfedale 9.1 in English pounds. 

Either the Wharf is a Php5500 speaker priced at £180 or a £180 speaker priced at Php5500 ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Oct 17, 2005 at 10:16 AM
I think it's more the latter, which speaks volumes about its value in terms of price-performance.  Especially in the local scene.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Oct 17, 2005 at 10:43 AM
I'm leaning towards the latter too (justifying ;D). According to a member from a UK-based forum who works for a rival brand admitted that the new diamonds were "well built, innovative and uses excellent componentry".
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Oct 17, 2005 at 11:46 AM
share ko lang...

AV Review Group test: Budget speakers (http://www.avreview.co.uk/news/article/mps/UAN/474/v/5/)

proud owner of a 9.1  ;D

Cheers to diamond 9.1 owners.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 17, 2005 at 01:04 PM
for me, the diamond 9 is a logical upgrade from the 8's and its not just a simple step upgrade and/or an upgrade to a newer model but a "jump", ang layo ng diamond 8 sa 9 (personally ha) in all possible aspect, its like coming from an entry level and going to mid level.


historically i had an 8.1, 8.3, 8.4 and a diamond 8 center, after a few other speakers in between (including ribbons) am now back to wharfes, a 9.6 and 9 cm. i dont think ill be changing speakers again, soon.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 17, 2005 at 01:33 PM
for me, the diamond 9 is a logical upgrade from the 8's and its not just a simple step upgrade and/or an upgrade to a newer model but a "jump", ang layo ng diamond 8 sa 9 (personally ha) in all possible aspect, its like coming from an entry level and going to mid level.


historically i had an 8.1, 8.3, 8.4 and a diamond 8 center, after a few other speakers in between (including ribbons) am now back to wharfes, a 9.6 and 9 cm. i dont think ill be changing speakers again, soon.

Hehehehe KAPANALIG!! back to Wharf ka rin ha..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 17, 2005 at 01:46 PM
idol ko kasi yang evo mo sir e. oy nakita ko pala last week sa spektra yong BIG brother ng evo mo, kasing laki pala nya yon 9.6 ano. pero kamukhang kamukha sa iyo e.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Oct 17, 2005 at 01:58 PM
for me, the diamond 9 is a logical upgrade from the 8's and its not just a simple step upgrade and/or an upgrade to a newer model but a "jump", ang layo ng diamond 8 sa 9 (personally ha) in all possible aspect, its like coming from an entry level and going to mid level.


historically i had an 8.1, 8.3, 8.4 and a diamond 8 center, after a few other speakers in between (including ribbons) am now back to wharfes, a 9.6 and 9 cm. i dont think ill be changing speakers again, soon.

welcome back to the fold.  im glad that you and your WIFE are enjoying your new diamond 9series speakers.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Oct 17, 2005 at 02:00 PM
idol ko kasi yang evo mo sir e. oy nakita ko pala last week sa spektra yong BIG brother ng evo mo, kasing laki pala nya yon 9.6 ano. pero kamukhang kamukha sa iyo e.

wanderlust,

one thing im sure of "idol ninyo ang isa't isa".  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 17, 2005 at 02:04 PM
a "family" experience sir.


idol din kita sir jet....

and take note this is all "thanks to you".  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 17, 2005 at 06:47 PM
idol ko kasi yang evo mo sir e. oy nakita ko pala last week sa spektra yong BIG brother ng evo mo, kasing laki pala nya yon 9.6 ano. pero kamukhang kamukha sa iyo e.

Black ata na Evo40 yun sa Spectra.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 18, 2005 at 08:44 AM
Hehehehe KAPANALIG!! back to Wharf ka rin ha..

nagsisibalikan sa Wharf.... hmmmmmm.... bakit kaya?  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimosabe on Oct 18, 2005 at 09:33 AM
naka-9.6 ka na wanderlust? medyo busy eh hindi ako makapasyal sa house mo.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Oct 18, 2005 at 10:20 AM
sir wanderlust, parining naman ng 9.6 nyo.. hehehe  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Oct 19, 2005 at 09:47 AM
wanderlust,

dami na requesting to listen to your 9.6 setup but the question is........ready na ba ang mama amp?  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 19, 2005 at 12:16 PM
according to my source, under renovation pa daw sir hehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 19, 2005 at 02:29 PM
according to my source, under renovation pa daw sir hehehe

Di bale yun SS power amp muna. ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 20, 2005 at 09:36 AM
Di bale yun SS power amp muna. ;) ;) ;)

nasa bahay yung power amp niya  :( ;D di bagay yung sa 9.6  :P
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 20, 2005 at 12:00 PM
Black ata na Evo40 yun sa Spectra.. ;D

yup.... kala ko nga evo30 e.

punk,

loves sweeter the 2nd time around  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 20, 2005 at 12:04 PM
sir kimosabe,

oo sir.... about 2 weeks na.

cire,

kayo bahala sir, but my place is small, nothing compares to akyat's-bundok.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 20, 2005 at 12:10 PM
wanderlust,

dami na requesting to listen to your 9.6 setup but the question is........ready na ba ang mama amp? ;)

not yet sir....  buti pa yong surplus na diatone always ready.... tinamaan ng lintek!!! kasalanan to ng HAM e!!!  >:(  ;D ;D ;D

hopefully within the week ok na.  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Oct 20, 2005 at 12:11 PM
uy! sama ako jan, para mapakingan ko naman 9.6 mo sir. ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 20, 2005 at 12:14 PM
hehehe.....


dumadami ah.... kaya ko kaya eto  :o ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 20, 2005 at 01:55 PM
hehehe.....


dumadami ah.... kaya ko kaya eto  :o ;D

Mama,

Meron tayo pictorial this Sat 10am ha.. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimosabe on Oct 20, 2005 at 02:19 PM
uy listening session kina wanderlust ok to sige schedule nyo  ;D ;D congrats parekoy
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Oct 20, 2005 at 02:38 PM
sir it sims d clamor s gaining ground. hinde na kaya pigilin ng cpr? ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Oct 20, 2005 at 03:06 PM
Mama,

Meron tayo pictorial this Sat 10am ha.. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


hans,

sino ang mga modelo nyo sa pictorial?  ;D

9.6 session na sa bahay ni wanderlust!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 20, 2005 at 04:54 PM
Mama,

Meron tayo pictorial this Sat 10am ha.. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

yes sir.... model naked and open.  ;D ;D ;D


i mean the grills removed and open sounding na  ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 20, 2005 at 05:00 PM
hoy, d pa ready amp ko.... unless HT session amp gusto nyo, pwedeng pwede.... my cm naman e.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Oct 21, 2005 at 08:38 AM
Hey guys,

Maiba naman po. I read in another forum that Diamond 9's uses the same drivers as the Quad's. Anyway, has anyone replaced the stock parts inside their diamond 9's? Baka kc pwedeng maging kasing-tunog ng Quad's hehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 21, 2005 at 11:58 AM
Hey guys,

Maiba naman po. I read in another forum that Diamond 9's uses the same drivers as the Quad's. Anyway, has anyone replaced the stock parts inside their diamond 9's? Baka kc pwedeng maging kasing-tunog ng Quad's hehehe

Learn that too sir.. heard Ozzie's Quad 12L before sa session driven by my AMX amp and was trully amazing with the finese and control of a floorstander galing..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Oct 27, 2005 at 07:47 PM
9.1's reviewed by Stereophile, Nov 2005 issue. Positive daw. Who has a copy? ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bonzai on Oct 28, 2005 at 12:09 AM
mga bros.... naicompare nyo na ba ang tunog o performance ng Wharf SW150 with the Mourdnt Short MS907W active sub?????


comments naman dyan pls sa performance..... ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 28, 2005 at 11:45 AM
9.1's reviewed by Stereophile, Nov 2005 issue. Positive daw. Who has a copy? ;D


Stereophile nagreview ng budget.. :D :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Oct 28, 2005 at 02:29 PM

Stereophile nagreview ng budget.. :D :D

Yes, Sir Hans. Stereophile reviews budget (under $400 or so) components too. Probably to increase sales.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: markmlists on Nov 04, 2005 at 04:08 PM
Hello,

Has anyone paired Wharfe Diamond 9.1/9.2/9.3/9.6 with a tube amp with less than 10 watts power output? Kumusta naman?

Salamat.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 05, 2005 at 08:09 AM
Hello,

Has anyone paired Wharfe Diamond 9.1/9.2/9.3/9.6 with a tube amp with less than 10 watts power output? Kumusta naman?

Salamat.

We tried 25 to 30 watts PP EL34 amp and had very good result pero sa 10watts I doubt pwede tutunog but not optimal.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: markmlists on Nov 07, 2005 at 06:11 AM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Nov 07, 2005 at 12:28 PM

Stereophile nagreview ng budget.. :D :D

part of the review ni robert reina sa stereophile of the diamond 9.1:

Rave Review from Stereophile
The Diamond 9.1 also won a rave review from Robert J. Reina in the 2005 issue of Stereophile magazine. "Wharfedale has a winner with the Diamond 9.1, a diminutive and attractive satellite speaker that does almost everything right and is a superb value," he writes. "In its midrange and high-frequency resolution it behaved more like a speaker with a four figure price tag. What more can one ask of an affordable speaker? Well done!"

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kemozavi on Nov 07, 2005 at 04:55 PM
I was at bangkok hunting for speakers out of curiousity I asked one of the sales person kung magkano yung diamond 9.5,,, bigla ako sa price dahil lumalabas converted sa Peso 23000 yung pair,,, among sa line up ng speakers nila it was one of the most expensive talo pa niya prices ng mga matataas na model ng ms. Normally kasi doon sa pinuntahan kong store 40% cheaper yung mga products nila compared sa prices natin dito.

Sabi ng salesperson made in Europe daw sila(not sure pero hindi sila china) so I auditioned them, Ganda ng Sound!!! :o I'm not an audiophile or anything pero kung icocompare ko sila sa AE Evo1 ko malayo talaga yung clarity tsaka mids.  >:(

Yung set up ng room kung saan ko inaudition yung Diamonds is parang yung sa AA the speakers were driven by a Marantz power amp hindi ko natanong yung model... 

Napansin ko rin yung tweeters na nakalagay doon sa diamond 9.5 it was a little shiny if you'd compare it sa mga tweeters na nakalagay sa mga wharfedale speakers dito sa pinas...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 07, 2005 at 09:19 PM
Hi NiRo.

How is it shiny? Hindi kaya effect ng lighting ng shop yun?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kemozavi on Nov 07, 2005 at 11:40 PM
Same material siya sir like the ones here in the philippines kaya lang parang may outter coat siya... I had a diamond 8.2 earlier if i'm not mistaken pareho sila ng tweeters ng diamond 9s. Kung ifefeel mo yung tweeters ng mga nandito parang madaling lumubog and parang silk talaga,,, the ones that i saw medyo metallic yung feel...

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jsllobrera on Nov 08, 2005 at 02:06 AM
Di kaya imitation nalang ang mga diamond 9 dito sa Pinas ;D Kasi made in China at diba maraming imitation sa China ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 08, 2005 at 05:05 AM
Di kaya imitation nalang ang mga diamond 9 dito sa Pinas ;D Kasi made in China at diba maraming imitation sa China ;D

Wharfedale Diamond 9's are made in China. If it's made in UK, yun ang imitation ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Abad Santos 7 on Nov 08, 2005 at 09:38 AM
I think the original ones are in europe(UK), there are just mass produced in China for
cost consideration to cater some markets.

But for the quality, i think there should be no big difference since they should be using 1
standard manufacturing procedures and specifications.


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Nov 08, 2005 at 11:01 AM
According to mang ben of spectra, wharfedale speakers up to pacific evolution series (not sure re opus) are all made in china.  even the quads (11L and 12L) which is owned by the mother company of wharfs IAG-International Audio Group (Chinese-owned UK based company)which happens also to be the new owner of Missions and TAG Mclaren.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: markmlists on Nov 11, 2005 at 12:22 PM
Hi,

To those who auditioned 9.1 and 9.2, what speaker is subjectively better (clearer, 'faster' etc) for you (opinions welcome)?

Is 9.2 just louder and not necessarily better (subjectively again) than 9.1?

Would you recommend 9.2 instead of 9.1? Room size is just 20-30 square meters. Room mode is immaterial I think, as I listen near field.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 11, 2005 at 05:25 PM
Hi,

To those who auditioned 9.1 and 9.2, what speaker is subjectively better (clearer, 'faster' etc) for you (opinions welcome)?

Is 9.2 just louder and not necessarily better (subjectively again) than 9.1?

Would you recommend 9.2 instead of 9.1? Room size is just 20-30 square meters. Room mode is immaterial I think, as I listen near field.

Thanks.

Your room is big. How about floorstanders?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Nov 11, 2005 at 05:45 PM
floorstanders with 90+db sensitivity  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: markmlists on Nov 11, 2005 at 06:14 PM
Your room is big. How about floorstanders?

Bumblebee and Awadeh,

Thanks. I was thinking of another room.
The Actual room which could  eventually use the diamonds is just 8-10 sq m.
I apologize for the confusion.. 9.1 or 9.2? :) Thanks for your patience.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 11, 2005 at 06:19 PM
Bumblebee and Awadeh,

Thanks. I was thinking of another room.
The Actual room which could  eventually use the diamonds is just 8-10 sq m.
I apologize for the confusion.. 9.1 or 9.2? :) Thanks for your patience.



For audio or HT??. what amp will you pair the 9 series.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: markmlists on Nov 11, 2005 at 06:48 PM
70% music/30% 2-ch DVD. NAD C320 40wpc. Player is Sony CDP-611 or Pioneer DV-585

Thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 11, 2005 at 08:21 PM
I owned the 9.1's and will get them again :) So, I recommend the 9.1's ;D

The 9.2's have more bass. In another forum, someone said that the 9.1's have better midrange. Probably due to the smaller woofers.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Nov 11, 2005 at 09:28 PM
9.1 or 9.2? :)
i have 9.1 86db 6ohms but your current ms5.20 86db 8ohms to me sounds bigger warmer but short on highs (treble). baka mabitin ka lows (bass) pag gusto mo hataw ledzep mobydick?
i stil feel floorstanders with 90db is best for your longterm use- ht &/or stereo.... :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 11, 2005 at 09:54 PM
With your requirement any of the 2 models will be a good match for your NAD tapos add a musical/fast sub for HT then oks na.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: markmlists on Nov 12, 2005 at 07:52 AM
Sirs Hans, Awadeh, Bumblebee-

thanks for your responses.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ianmorales on Nov 15, 2005 at 12:58 AM
sirs, Where can i buy the cheapest wharf 9 series and pls post the price.  I will pair it with an amx el84 wich sir andrew has during the hi fi show.

                      Thanks bro's for the help!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jeckjeck on Nov 15, 2005 at 01:08 AM
I think the AV stores have similar pricing for the Diamond 9 series... not 100% sure about the prices if EVAT affected it... these are from Spectra and Listening Room

9.1 Fronts  = P5,500
CS  Center = P4,500
DFS9 Rear  = P3,800

Baka some members here know stores with cheaper pricing
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jsllobrera on Nov 15, 2005 at 03:28 AM
Nung bumili ako last Nov.8 sa listening room, walang additional na evat at ganyan pa rin ang price.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 15, 2005 at 06:49 AM
sirs, Where can i buy the cheapest wharf 9 series and pls post the price.  I will pair it with an amx el84 wich sir andrew has during the hi fi show.

                      Thanks bro's for the help!


Try Spectra 8185493 look for Leslie and Jim.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: eagumban on Nov 15, 2005 at 06:06 PM
Mga bossing,

I need your advice, may delema ako, my setup is 9.5, 9dfs surround and 9cs center, yung setup ko 7.1 using RXV-1500.  Ang surround back is my old speakers for which I am planning to replace with 9dfs.  Na observe ko kasi na yung side surround, pag directly positioned sa side,  parang hindi ko ma feel ang pag ikot ng sound, ang naririnig ko ay parang na extend yung front ko.  If I reposition myself na medyo sa likod ang 9dfs, dun lang ako maka experience na umiikot ang sound.  By the way square ang room 20' x 20' at medyo mas malayo ang surround speakers ko kaysa front due to installation constraints. Ang wire na ginamit sa surround ay mura lang, questionable kung oxygen free yun...pero planning to replace it if setup is final.  Question... should I go for a 9dfs for the surround back or replace it with other models of diamond 9?  9.1 perhaps?  Thanks... 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: alistair on Nov 15, 2005 at 08:45 PM
markmlists, unless you already have good stands or are planning to mount the 9.1's on some other surface (like side tables) I'd just go for the 9.4's. Their price is like a pair of 9.1's plus a pair of stands, and they have a little more bass (10Hz lower) to boot.

eagumban, since you already have 9 DFS for your SL/SR I'd just go for another one for the surround back. At least you get bi-polar output which might help in creating a more 'enveloping' surround field.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: markmlists on Nov 16, 2005 at 09:03 AM
markmlists, unless you already have good stands or are planning to mount the 9.1's on some other surface (like side tables) I'd just go for the 9.4's. Their price is like a pair of 9.1's plus a pair of stands, and they have a little more bass (10Hz lower) to boot.

I do have a pair of JGR stands na rin but thanks for your input. On the subject of  9.4's, di ba boomy?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: alistair on Nov 16, 2005 at 09:36 AM
I do have a pair of JGR stands na rin but thanks for your input. On the subject of  9.4's, di ba boomy?
Di naman - at least, I don't think so. I don't have sub so I can appreciate the extra bass, and I just positioned the speakers a foot away from the rear walls to reduce reflection. I figure, if/when I do get a sub I can always control the crossover through my receiver to route low frequencies to the sub and avoid extraneous boominess.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: moks on Nov 16, 2005 at 11:26 AM
ok ba ang diamond 9 series paired with yamaha rx-v440 for HT? can somebody comment on this...planned set-up would be diamond 9.4 for the front, diamond 9 cm (center), diamond 9 dfs for the surrounds. thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Nov 16, 2005 at 12:38 PM
ok ba ang diamond 9 series paired with yamaha rx-v440 for HT? can somebody comment on this...planned set-up would be diamond 9.4 for the front, diamond 9 cm (center), diamond 9 dfs for the surrounds. thanks.

HT should have a sub! where is it in your setup? Your setup is good though.

But if I were you, I will make 9.2 my front main, and buy a separate sub!

If I want to complete something in the same budget as yours, I will go 9.2 all around and buy subwoofer!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: moks on Nov 16, 2005 at 01:10 PM
sorry, forgot to mention that i have a sub already i'm using a velodyne cht-12r. by the way, why do you recommend wharfedale 9.2 for the fronts instead of 9.4? 9.4 are floorstanders which technically i think may be better than the 9.2...thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Nov 16, 2005 at 01:26 PM
sorry, forgot to mention that i have a sub already i'm using a velodyne cht-12r. by the way, why do you recommend wharfedale 9.2 for the fronts instead of 9.4? 9.4 are floorstanders which technically i think may be better than the 9.2...thanks.

It is more difficult to position floorstanders simply because it also reproduced part of the subwoofer spectrum. Reproducing the LF spectrum has something to do with your room's audio mode - any location of the floorstander will either compromise the mid-hi or the LF range - if you will not employ a sub in music listening.

The audio range, being 20-20k, non-employment of sub still fall short of the 20hz bottom limit, since no floor stander can reached to that range. If to be use in music listening with a sub, the sub should be tuned properly with your main or else, things can be unmanageable in the LF range.

Of course, you can always set the 9.4 to small speakers - but it negates the reason why in the first place it is a floor stander - to also reproduce the LF range. Unless you only look at the floorstander as cheap bookshelf stand if 9.4 is just set as small.

The 9.2 (I assume this is the one with the 5incher kevlar) proved its worth in various tests as far as mid-high ranges are concerned.

I would rather get the placement of 9.2 that best suit my mid-hi range (and dont worry about LF range). Then I will get the placement for my sub best suited for my LF. then enjoy the synergy of both bests.

Kung ako lang naman!  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 16, 2005 at 01:28 PM
...
The 9.2 (I assume this is the one with the 5incher kevlar) proved its worth in various tests as far as mid-high ranges are concerned.
...

That would be the 9.1's, Sir.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 16, 2005 at 03:39 PM
If you have a small to medium room 9.2 would be good and tama si Sir aHobbit placement would be a problem for audio pero case to case basis sa room mo.. pero for HT hindi naman maselan sa placement yan.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: moks on Nov 16, 2005 at 04:19 PM
ah ok thanks got your point. so ok lang kung pang ht applications mag 9.2 na lang ako for my fronts tapos 9cm for the center and 9 dfs for my surrounds...btw, ano mas recommended niniyo 9 sr for the surrounds or yung 9 dfs? if i understand it correctly yung 9 sr is direct radiating and yung 9 dfs is dipole type of surround...tama ba?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 16, 2005 at 07:09 PM
ah ok thanks got your point. so ok lang kung pang ht applications mag 9.2 na lang ako for my fronts tapos 9cm for the center and 9 dfs for my surrounds...btw, ano mas recommended niniyo 9 sr for the surrounds or yung 9 dfs? if i understand it correctly yung 9 sr is direct radiating and yung 9 dfs is dipole type of surround...tama ba?

If you plan to use it just for HT then DFS would be better, but in case you want to plan SACD or DVD audio then get a direct radiation speaker for surround. :)

Contact Spectra for pricing.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: eagumban on Nov 16, 2005 at 11:06 PM
[eagumban, since you already have 9 DFS for your SL/SR I'd just go for another one for the surround back. At least you get bi-polar output which might help in creating a more 'enveloping' surround field.

Sir alistair, thanks for the feedback... Actually I just want to make my decision solid. Mahirap na magkamali he he he ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 17, 2005 at 07:17 AM
sorry, forgot to mention that i have a sub already i'm using a velodyne cht-12r. by the way, why do you recommend wharfedale 9.2 for the fronts instead of 9.4? 9.4 are floorstanders which technically i think may be better than the 9.2...thanks.

Usually, floorstanders will give you more bass. Standmounts will give you better bass.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jeckjeck on Nov 17, 2005 at 07:34 AM
sirs, what's the difference between the the 9.1 and 9.2? when I Google for both, there are a lot of results for the 9.1 but the 9.2 gives links to non-English sites...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 17, 2005 at 07:47 AM
sirs, what's the difference between the the 9.1 and 9.2? when I Google for both, there are a lot of results for the 9.1 but the 9.2 gives links to non-English sites...

The 9.1's have 5" woofers. The 9.2's, 6.5", hence, more bass. Both have 1" fabric tweeters. I think the 9.2's and the 9.5's were originally not meant to be released in the UK (ewan ko lang ngayon) kaya wala masyadong press.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jeckjeck on Nov 17, 2005 at 07:54 AM
wow... bilis ng reply... thanks bumblebee!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 17, 2005 at 08:14 AM
Sir jeckjeck,

Are you gonna be using Wharf's soon? :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jeckjeck on Nov 17, 2005 at 02:31 PM
Sir jeckjeck,

Are you gonna be using Wharf's soon? :)

still deciding sir... my set up before was about 90% for movies & 10% for audio but I am getting more into audio now... been listening to a lot of cds the past month plus I also hook up my iPod to the AVR...

My budget will fit the Wharfe's perfectly but I'm thinking of getting a "higher end" set up and start with the fronts and center--- iniisip ko pa talaga kung ano gusto ko... I'll be making the rounds of audio shops this weekend...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kt on Nov 17, 2005 at 05:25 PM
in a floorstanders with sub setup...should floorstanders be set to large? coz i read in other threads that they most of the time set them to small since may sub... di ba sayang yung capability ng floorstanders if set to small? tnx
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 17, 2005 at 05:37 PM
in a floorstanders with sub setup...should floorstanders be set to large? coz i read in other threads that they most of the time set them to small since may sub... di ba sayang yung capability ng floorstanders if set to small? tnx

Kung ano mas ok tumunog, dun ka.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kt on Nov 17, 2005 at 05:45 PM
bro bee! do u have any recommendations? hehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bono on Nov 17, 2005 at 05:47 PM
Kung ano mas ok tumunog, dun ka.

I agree with bumblebee or else you will regret, if you hear a good  speaker.  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kt on Nov 17, 2005 at 06:02 PM
yup i agree too! but do u guys have recommendations based on your findings?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 17, 2005 at 07:24 PM
yup i agree too! but do u guys have recommendations based on your findings?

If you have a sub, you may want to set all other speakers to SMALL. That way, the amp won't have to labor that much.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kt on Nov 18, 2005 at 11:17 AM
bro bee! yup thats my setting ever since! hehe baka lang im missing out something since capable naman sa full range ang floorstanders eh...hehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 18, 2005 at 01:19 PM
Usually, floorstanders will give you more bass. Standmounts will give you better bass.


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D I might disagree on this sir depends sa model. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 18, 2005 at 01:22 PM

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D I might disagree on this sir depends sa model. ;D ;D ;D

I agree, Sir hans. Kaya po dinagdag ko yung "Usually" :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 18, 2005 at 01:26 PM
I agree, Sir hans. Kaya po dinagdag ko yung "Usually" :)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D usually din nagmamadali ako magreply. ;D ;D ;D ;D kaya miss out some words. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: moks on Nov 18, 2005 at 01:29 PM
anong setup ang mas ok para sa receiver na yamaha rx-v440, wharfdales or ae? tanong lang po. kse based on sa sensitivity issue mukhang mas madaling ma drive yung mga ae's ng yamaha compared sa wharfedales. i need your comment
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 18, 2005 at 01:50 PM
anong setup ang mas ok para sa receiver na yamaha rx-v440, wharfdales or ae? tanong lang po. kse based on sa sensitivity issue mukhang mas madaling ma drive yung mga ae's ng yamaha compared sa wharfedales. i need your comment

On spec mukhang laman AE compare to Wharf with regards to drivability.. pero very minimal lang yan baka di pa ma notice, and I believe your AVR can drive both models with Gusto ( party level ) syempre you'll have a sub to compliment your front so lalong wlang problem ..  ;D ;D ;D ;D Audition which model you prefer both speaker are on the warm side..

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Nov 18, 2005 at 02:23 PM
;D ;D ;D ;D usually din nagmamadali ako magreply. ;D ;D ;D ;D kaya miss out some words. ;D

 ;D ;D HAHAHA  ;D ;D

Galing ng comeback!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 21, 2005 at 08:24 AM
Stereophile: Wharfedale Diamond 9.1 (http://stereophile.com/standloudspeakers/1105wharfedale/)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: moks on Nov 21, 2005 at 10:50 AM
anong mas ok diamond 9.1 o diamond 9.2? yung diamond na dfs surrounds ba avialable na dito sa pinas?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Nov 21, 2005 at 01:41 PM
anong mas ok diamond 9.1 o diamond 9.2? yung diamond na dfs surrounds ba avialable na dito sa pinas?

yes the dfs are available here.  i saw a pair sa spectra.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: moks on Nov 21, 2005 at 02:01 PM
how much yung dfs sa spectra?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Nov 21, 2005 at 02:27 PM
did not ask. better if you dropby spectra para they can give you the discounted price.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: moks on Nov 21, 2005 at 02:51 PM
ano mas ok kung pang ht application 9.1 o 9.2? using sub na velodyne cht-10r
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 21, 2005 at 03:27 PM
ano mas ok kung pang ht application 9.1 o 9.2? using sub na velodyne cht-10r

9.2 lahat + sub?? maganda yan.. pero even 9.1 pwede basta may sub sa HT SUB is a must!.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: eagumban on Nov 21, 2005 at 04:20 PM
....yung diamond na dfs surrounds ba avialable na dito sa pinas?

Available na.  Just bought 1 pair last week.  Got it for 4950 at Cebu.  Sa Manila mas mura pero wala akong magawa nahawa na kasi ng SARS kailangang gamutin ;D ;D ;D

Anyway, at last my wharf 7.1 setup is complete(9.5, 9cs, 2-9dfs and cht-10)... what can I say...   FULLY SATISFIED.   :) :) :)

Mas magandala talaga kung timber match....seamless ang sound ng mga fly-by. he he he.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on Nov 22, 2005 at 01:54 PM
Available na.  Just bought 1 pair last week.  Got it for 4950 at Cebu.  Sa Manila mas mura pero wala akong magawa nahawa na kasi ng SARS kailangang gamutin ;D ;D ;D

Anyway, at last my wharf 7.1 setup is complete(9.5, 9cs, 2-9dfs and cht-10)... what can I say...   FULLY SATISFIED.   :) :) :)

Mas magandala talaga kung timber match....seamless ang sound ng mga fly-by. he he he.


Eagumban, Bai, taga Cebu pud diay ka.

Anyway, Congrats sa set-up mo.  Ako, nasa 50% finish na ako.  9.2, 9cs pa lang ang meron sa akin.  planning to get an SR or DFS... malaki ba difference ng SR at DFS?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: eagumban on Nov 23, 2005 at 12:50 PM
Eagumban, Bai, taga Cebu pud diay ka.

Anyway, Congrats sa set-up mo.  Ako, nasa 50% finish na ako.  9.2, 9cs pa lang ang meron sa akin.  planning to get an SR or DFS... malaki ba difference ng SR at DFS?


itgbkj, actually I'm from Bacolod but I went to cebu every month.  Ok lang bay kay maka sabot man ko... he he he... ;D ;D ;D.

Actually, I haven't tested SR as against DFS but, I just followed what was recommended on the brochure of diamond 9 for my specific size of room,  and there is an advantage and disadvantage between this two as I know from previous threads. DFS is a bi-polar which is great for ambiance plus the direct sound, as you may have noticed there are two speakers, one facing the listener and the other facing the wall. SR are most likely to be more of direct sound which is great for concerts. The downside is DFS (86db) is less sensitive compared to SR (88db) but DFS can handle power up to 200W as compared to SR which can only handle up to 60W which is good for me since I have a bigger amp.  Ma handle ng DFS ko ang power ng Yammy 1500, hindi sya madaling masira.  There must be more difference between the two that other gurus can explain....

Don't worry about your setup... it will be complete soon.  It took me two years to complete... medyo matagal pero worth it. Be patient. ::) ;D :-\
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Nov 23, 2005 at 03:41 PM
mga sirs, how do you clean speaker grills? medyo may namumuti kasi don sa center speaker ko eh...
tried ko na punasan ng basahan na basa, after few days, ganon na naman.. hope for your reply..thanks in advance... :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 23, 2005 at 04:01 PM
mga sirs, how do you clean speaker grills? medyo may namumuti kasi don sa center speaker ko eh...
tried ko na punasan ng basahan na basa, after few days, ganon na naman.. hope for your reply..thanks in advance... :)

Use a brush. Yung shoe brush ok yun ;) Basta nde pa gamit ha? Para alang amoy ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Nov 23, 2005 at 04:06 PM
Use a brush. Yung shoe brush ok yun ;) Basta nde pa gamit ha? Para alang amoy ;D

ok sir..will try... para yata kasing amag eh pero kulay puti sya...   :-[
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 23, 2005 at 04:15 PM
Baka namuong alikabok lang due to humidity.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Nov 23, 2005 at 04:29 PM
Baka namuong alikabok lang due to humidity.

baka kasi yata don sa grill kasi parang leather yata na makapal yung material non sir eh..
pwede kaya labhan yon?  ::) or sabunin?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: BuLLeT on Nov 23, 2005 at 06:39 PM
I'm sorry of this has been posted already as I was not able to read the past few pages.
Here is a review of the Diamond 9.1 in stereophile.

Thanks.


A portion of the review:

"Wharfedale has a winner with the Diamond 9.1, a diminutive and attractive satellite speaker that does almost everything right and is a superb value. In its midrange and high-frequency resolution it behaved more like a speaker with a four-figure price tag. What more can one ask of an affordable speaker? Well done!"


http://www.stereophile.com/standloudspeakers/1105wharfedale/
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 23, 2005 at 08:13 PM
baka kasi yata don sa grill kasi parang leather yata na makapal yung material non sir eh..
pwede kaya labhan yon?  ::) or sabunin?


Wag mong labhan. Baka mawalan ng dikit yung glue nun.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Nov 24, 2005 at 06:45 AM
Wag mong labhan. Baka mawalan ng dikit yung glue nun.

ok thanks sir bumblebee  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jeckjeck on Nov 26, 2005 at 12:05 AM
finally decided on getting the Diamond 9.1 this afternoon ;D na-convince ako ng todo doon sa link posted by bumblebee (thanks bro!) Actually I auditioned pa the 9.2 and 9.4 pero masmalinis pa rin yung sound ng 9.1... super smooth yung sound at clarong claro... even the guy at the shop who was convincing me to get the 9.4s noticed the difference... I was looking to get floorstanders kasi but I'm very happy with this purchase... Major upgrade yung audio quality from my small MS satellites before... next stop... subs ;D still deciding if I will get the CHT-8r, VX-10 or SW150 -- still canvassing (Yung SW150 pala ng Wharfe awarded din in 2004)

I'm breaking them in now with my audio cds... Julia Fordham, John Legend, Rod Stewart, Mishka Adams, U2... five hours and counting pa lang... Yung pagkapaos ni Rod Stewart litaw na litaw sa 9.1s which I never noticed sa MS!... 

How long do I need to break them in? Any prefered music for break in? Jazz? Rock? By the way, pati ba sub, center at rear kailangang i-break in? Paano?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iceman90a on Nov 26, 2005 at 12:12 AM

How long do I need to break them in? Any prefered music for break in? Jazz? Rock? By the way, pati ba sub, center at rear kailangang i-break in? Paano?

set your receiver to 5-channel stereo, then rock on! ;D

congrats on your new speakers :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ianmorales on Nov 26, 2005 at 01:25 AM
Sir, 
ask ko lang if i can use the 9.1 as my front speaker. Kasi parang maliit sya. I'm  pairing it with a amx el84 amp.

 thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 26, 2005 at 05:21 AM
Sir, 
ask ko lang if i can use the 9.1 as my front speaker. Kasi parang maliit sya. I'm  pairing it with a amx el84 amp.

 thanks!

Pede naman Sir. Basta nde sobrang laki nung room.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: 18hz on Nov 26, 2005 at 09:40 PM
finally decided on getting the Diamond 9.1 this afternoon ;D na-convince ako ng todo doon sa link posted by bumblebee (thanks bro!) Actually I auditioned pa the 9.2 and 9.4 pero masmalinis pa rin yung sound ng 9.1...

Sir magkano kuha mo sa 9.1? at saan ka nakabili. Baka dyan na lang ako bibili pag nagbakasyon tapos
dalhin pabalik dito kung mas mura hehehe... Thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jeckjeck on Nov 26, 2005 at 10:06 PM
went back to Audio Excellance for the Diamond 9CS... hindi ko mapatong sa ibabaw ng TV... slanted forward yung top portion ng Philips TV ko... kailangan ko pang bumili ng patungan...

18hz, the 9.1s are P5,500 and the 9CS is P4,500... pareho lang prices nila sa ibang AV stores pero okay doon since hindi masyadong crowded plus accomodating pa yung mga tao...

sa Audio Excellance nga pala ito sa ground level ng Eastwood Cybermall sa Cyber One building... may parking sa building mismo... look for Nino

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: 18hz on Nov 26, 2005 at 10:51 PM

18hz, the 9.1s are P5,500 and the 9CS is P4,500... pareho lang prices nila sa ibang AV stores pero okay doon since hindi masyadong crowded plus accomodating pa yung mga tao...

sa Audio Excellance nga pala ito sa ground level ng Eastwood Cybermall sa Cyber One building... may parking sa building mismo... look for Nino



Thanks Jeckx2. yehey! mura pala dyan, wish makauwi na para mabitbit ko na yan pabalik dito sa singapore
sobra mahal kasi dito ang 9.1 umaabot ng 20k pesos!
 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Nov 27, 2005 at 04:24 PM
sirs,
we pinoys are indeed very fortunate that the wharfedale diamond 9s are priced very low compared to other countries. i'm wondering - had the wharfes have been priced like U.K or U.S market, marami pa rin kaya bibili neto?, perhaps gain more "respect" from so-called mid-fi and hi-end audiophiles who tend to "bypass" (read: "snob" ;D) the wharfes in favor of similarly priced U.K. brands. has anyone tried to compare wharfe diamond 9.1 with ae evo1, ma b1, b&w 303 or 600 s3? ....except for the grills, imho the 9.1 can stand mano-y-mano with the rest of the field !

more power to foreign brands with factories in china that makes quality products and sells at affordable price!!!

 peace :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 28, 2005 at 07:37 AM
sirs,
we pinoys are indeed very fortunate that the wharfedale diamond 9s are priced very low compared to other countries. i'm wondering - had the wharfes have been priced like U.K or U.S market, marami pa rin kaya bibili neto?, perhaps gain more "respect" from so-called mid-fi and hi-end audiophiles who tend to "bypass" (read: "snob" ;D) the wharfes in favor of similarly priced U.K. brands. has anyone tried to compare wharfe diamond 9.1 with ae evo1, ma b1, b&w 303 or 600 s3? ....except for the grills, imho the 9.1 can stand mano-y-mano with the rest of the field !

more power to foreign brands with factories in china that makes quality products and sells at affordable price!!!

 peace :)

The grills are ok (at least for me). If the Wharfedale's were priced the same, it's likely that they get snobbed. Yung £180-£200 range kc, sobrang dami ng choices. From "more prestigious" brands pa.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Nov 28, 2005 at 07:42 AM
bro jeckjeck, congrats on your purchase and welcome to the wharfs family..hehhee..we will wait for your updated set up in the HT gallery thread!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aldrinpsx on Nov 28, 2005 at 10:01 AM
went back to Audio Excellance for the Diamond 9CS... hindi ko mapatong sa ibabaw ng TV... slanted forward yung top portion ng Philips TV ko... kailangan ko pang bumili ng patungan...

18hz, the 9.1s are P5,500 and the 9CS is P4,500... pareho lang prices nila sa ibang AV stores pero okay doon since hindi masyadong crowded plus accomodating pa yung mga tao...

sa Audio Excellance nga pala ito sa ground level ng Eastwood Cybermall sa Cyber One building... may parking sa building mismo... look for Nino



the 9.1s are P5,500 and the 9CS is P4,500...  Price for pair??..how much for the Diamond 9CS?<--mag matched kaya  to sa valdus ko?? help ppl!

peace!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 28, 2005 at 03:47 PM
Price for the 9.1's is per pair. The center channels are sold per piece.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jeckjeck on Nov 28, 2005 at 04:11 PM
bro jeckjeck, congrats on your purchase and welcome to the wharfs family..hehhee..we will wait for your updated set up in the HT gallery thread!  ;D

thnx... inaayos ko pa... still deciding on which rear speakers to get... I may decide to move the 9.1s to the rear and get the 9.4 or 9.5 for my front...  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: markmlists on Nov 29, 2005 at 02:51 AM
Sir, 
ask ko lang if i can use the 9.1 as my front speaker. Kasi parang maliit sya. I'm  pairing it with a amx el84 amp.

 thanks!

Hi,

ilang watts yung AMX mo? If you get the pair to work (amx/9.1) , could you please share your experience. im very curious.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 29, 2005 at 08:57 AM
Hi,

ilang watts yung AMX mo? If you get the pair to work (amx/9.1) , could you please share your experience. im very curious.

Thanks.

Bro i think around 12watts lang yun EL84. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Nov 29, 2005 at 02:50 PM
Saking mga fellow Wharfe boys na naka-9.CS, gumagamit ba kayo stand? May plano gumamit? ???

Kasi dati nasa ibabaw lang ng TV yung akin. But I got a projector na yung screen niya natatakpan yung TV twing nakababa, kaya na-displace yung 9.cs sa sahig. E gusto ko naman bigan ng konting dangal yung speaker ko. Need suggestions sana on a decent stand na swakto sa base ng 9.cs. Thanks!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Nov 29, 2005 at 05:34 PM
Turo sa akin ni Fafa Hans that speaker stands make a difference.

So go for the affordable SABRE speaker stands (shameless plug  ;D). Sonny Tuazon has a few on display now.

Lots of models for your budget.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 30, 2005 at 09:19 AM
Saking mga fellow Wharfe boys na naka-9.CS, gumagamit ba kayo stand? May plano gumamit? ???

Kasi dati nasa ibabaw lang ng TV yung akin. But I got a projector na yung screen niya natatakpan yung TV twing nakababa, kaya na-displace yung 9.cs sa sahig. E gusto ko naman bigan ng konting dangal yung speaker ko. Need suggestions sana on a decent stand na swakto sa base ng 9.cs. Thanks!  ;D

Agree with Sir Mat get a stand for your center tapos sand fill mo agad.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: moks on Nov 30, 2005 at 10:14 AM
auditioned wharfedale 9.1 last night at sights and sounds, they were using a denon receiver...ang sama sobra tumunog ng 9.1 walang ka treble treble though ok naman yung midrange niya...bakit kaya? would there be a difference kung yamaha na receiver ang ginamit nila?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 30, 2005 at 10:31 AM
Panong walang treble?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chrisP23 on Nov 30, 2005 at 10:52 AM
Agree with Sir Mat get a stand for your center tapos sand fill mo agad.. ;D

Sir, what do you mean by "sand fill" ano ba ang naidadagdag nito?  ???
TIA
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: markmlists on Nov 30, 2005 at 11:12 AM
Bro i think around 12watts lang yun EL84. :)

Salamat :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Nov 30, 2005 at 11:13 AM
Turo sa akin ni Fafa Hans that speaker stands make a difference.

So go for the affordable SABRE speaker stands (shameless plug  ;D). Sonny Tuazon has a few on display now.

Lots of models for your budget.

Sir matz talaga, pagkakakitaan na naman ako.  ;D Peace!

Wouldn't this be a little overkill for the 9.cs?


Sabre PRO815 Praetor
Color: Black
Material Iron plate
Base size: 24x21cm. (9.4"x 8.3") SOLID Iron plate
Top Size: 19x16cm (7.5"x 6.3") SOLID Iron plate
Posts: 4 iron posts
Weight: 50kg (110.1 lbs)
Max Load: 50kg (110.1 lbs)
Height: available in 20 cm (7.9") for CENTER CHANNEL 40cm (15.7") & 60 cm height (23.6")
All iron construction, this thing is VERY heavy. So only this model is stable enough to support a center speaker at 20 cm height.
(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid183/p112d8673e2775752678cc461485319c3/f2ad51aa.jpg)
Introductory price: P4950/ pair
20 cm available for center speaker stand, 1 pc @ P2500



I mean overkill from a price-of-principal (P4,500) to price-of-accessory (P2,500) ratio perspective. It appears to me kasi na medyo high-end na yata yung Praetor sa line ng Sabre. Sir matz, meron ba center stand for the other models? 2 blocks away lang The Home Theater from my office I'll try to drop by when work is lighter.

Agree with Sir Mat get a stand for your center tapos sand fill mo agad.. ;D

How much difference will sand filling make for a center channel speaker? Kasi mostly dialogue lang naman yun diba?  :)

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Nov 30, 2005 at 11:29 AM
auditioned wharfedale 9.1 last night at sights and sounds, they were using a denon receiver...ang sama sobra tumunog ng 9.1 walang ka treble treble though ok naman yung midrange niya...bakit kaya? would there be a difference kung yamaha na receiver ang ginamit nila?
hi sir moks, bought my 9.1 sa sights parksq. i just tested it na tumunog at binayaran ko na coz i know that it takes time to burn-in the wharfes. sadyang ganyan siguro ang kevlar drivers, kasi ung bw601 ko took almost a month b4 it sang! now kundisyon na ang 9.1 ko i agree with those editorial and user reviews, pound for pound one of the best, if not d best,  in its class ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Nov 30, 2005 at 11:34 AM
Sir matz talaga, pagkakakitaan na naman ako.  ;D Peace!

Wouldn't this be a little overkill for the 9.cs?
 
I mean overkill from a price-of-principal (P4,500) to price-of-accessory (P2,500) ratio perspective. It appears to me kasi na medyo high-end na yata yung Praetor sa line ng Sabre. Sir matz, meron ba center stand for the other models? 2 blocks away lang The Home Theater from my office I'll try to drop by when work is lighter.

Its not really overkill, I know there are more expensive center speaker stands out there.

The Praetor line is indeed for the higher end market and it was chosen to serve as center speaker stand for a reason: it is very heavy therefore making it stable anough to serve as a center stand.

A 40 cm Praetor is much heavier than a 60 cm Sentinel. Only Praetor line has 40 cm & below heights. If it was the lower models I dont think they would be heavy & stable enough to support a center channel.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Nov 30, 2005 at 12:14 PM
Its not really overkill, I know there are more expensive center speaker stands out there.

The Praetor line is indeed for the higher end market and it was chosen to serve as center speaker stand for a reason: it is very heavy therefore making it stable anough to serve as a center stand.

A 40 cm Praetor is much heavier than a 60 cm Sentinel. Only Praetor line has 40 cm & below heights. If it was the lower models I dont think they would be heavy & stable enough to support a center channel.

Come to think of it, a center speaker on a stand would form a "T", so stand stability would really be an issue. Hmm... merrier xmas to me?...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: moks on Nov 30, 2005 at 04:55 PM
hi sir moks, bought my 9.1 sa sights parksq. i just tested it na tumunog at binayaran ko na coz i know that it takes time to burn-in the wharfes. sadyang ganyan siguro ang kevlar drivers, kasi ung bw601 ko took almost a month b4 it sang! now kundisyon na ang 9.1 ko i agree with those editorial and user reviews, pound for pound one of the best, if not d best,  in its class ;D

ang ibig kong sabihin walang kalansing ang wharfedale compared sa b&w litaw na litaw ang highs niya...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jeckjeck on Nov 30, 2005 at 05:43 PM
ang ibig kong sabihin walang kalansing ang wharfedale compared sa b&w litaw na litaw ang highs niya...

hey moks, actually sa tweeter nga ng 9.1 ako naimpress eh... detailed but not bright or "tinny" -- baka hindi maayos pagkaset up nung receiver... try going to another shop and audition them again...  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 30, 2005 at 07:10 PM
ang ibig kong sabihin walang kalansing ang wharfedale compared sa b&w litaw na litaw ang highs niya...

I agree na kulang sa kalansing yung 9.1's. Pro yun talaga ang gusto ko. Nde fatiguing. Smooth and chocolatey ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: moks on Nov 30, 2005 at 08:16 PM
ang ibig mo bang sabihin kung papapiliin ka between monitor audio b2 and wharfedale 9.1 mas pipiliin mo yung wharfedale over monitor audio b2 kse mas makalansing yung b2?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 30, 2005 at 08:31 PM
ang ibig mo bang sabihin kung papapiliin ka between monitor audio b2 and wharfedale 9.1 mas pipiliin mo yung wharfedale over monitor audio b2 kse mas makalansing yung b2?

Yeah, I'd choose the 9.1 (kahit pareho pa ng presyo). W/ the 9.1's nde masyadong problema ang amp. Kahit bright, kahit warm. Sa B2, as you say, makalansing, baka nde ko magustuhan w/ bright electronics.

Tsaka, 6.5" kc yung woofers nung B2 e ;D Yoko nun, gusto ko 5" lang ;D Yoko rin ng metal tweeters. Gusto ko fabric ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aldrinpsx on Nov 30, 2005 at 09:10 PM
the 9.1s are P5,500 and the 9CS is P4,500...  Price for pair??..how much for the Diamond 9CS?<--mag matched kaya  to sa valdus ko?? help ppl!

peace!!!

Here its $350 a pair  :'( :'( :'( :'(  thats why im having 2nd thought in getting it here..can you give me the dimension,weight of the unit?pa fedex ko. ;D ;D ;D ;D

peace!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Dec 01, 2005 at 04:53 AM
Here its $350 a pair  :'( :'( :'( :'(  thats why im having 2nd thought in getting it here..can you give me the dimension,weight of the unit?pa fedex ko. ;D ;D ;D ;D

peace!!!

According to Stereophile, 12 lbs each.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 01, 2005 at 12:29 PM
moks,

depende yan sa preference mo, kung type mp ang makalansing B2 but if you like warm sounding 9.1 ka.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Dec 01, 2005 at 12:35 PM
mga sirs, how do you clean speaker grills? medyo may namumuti kasi don sa center speaker ko eh...
tried ko na punasan ng basahan na basa, after few days, ganon na naman.. hope for your reply..thanks in advance... :)

Chief labhan mo. used to do that to my MA b4 grills tapos patuyuin mo nalang sa electric fan.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Dec 01, 2005 at 12:39 PM
Chief labhan mo. used to do that to my MA b4 grills tapos patuyuin mo nalang sa electric fan.  :)

thanks sir kimpao! will do that this weekend...  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Dec 01, 2005 at 12:44 PM
use to have the same problem also with my wharf crystal series back then.  decided to wash them with laundry detergent (surf with kalaminsi  ;D for a fresh clean lemony scent ) and whoahey! No more white spots and stains.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Dec 01, 2005 at 12:46 PM
use to have the same problem also with my wharf crystal series back then.  decided to wash them with laundry detergent (surf with kalaminsi  ;D ) and whoahey! No more white spots and stains.  ;D

thanks sir... ok talaga dito sa pinoy...members are willing to help...  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Abad Santos 7 on Dec 01, 2005 at 01:57 PM
but dont apply pressure para beauty pa rin hehehe....
ung tama lang to clean the affected parts.

Happy cleaning....

Cheers.


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gbtormes16 on Dec 01, 2005 at 05:32 PM
it seems that I'm the only one who bought the 9.3 here in pinoydvd ???well anyway, I like its warm sound paired with my 2 year old yammy 540 and very satisfied ..cheers  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: moks on Dec 02, 2005 at 12:17 AM
wala atang 9.3 it's either 9.1, 9.2, 9.4, 9.5 or 9.6...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: moks on Dec 02, 2005 at 12:19 AM
guys,

which do you think is better to use as your fronts for ht 9.1 or the 9.2? avr is yamaha rx-v440...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jeckjeck on Dec 02, 2005 at 01:11 AM
really depends on your needs and your ears, moks... I auditioned both and found the 9.1 better than the 9.2... I found the 9.2 a bit too boomy... the 9.1 for me was smoother on the highs and tamer on the bass side plus the smaller 9.1s would work for me as I have a small listening/HT area... 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aldrinpsx on Dec 02, 2005 at 04:20 AM
According to Stereophile, 12 lbs each.

Salamat.. will post updates.


peace!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Dec 02, 2005 at 05:09 AM
wala atang 9.3 it's either 9.1, 9.2, 9.4, 9.5 or 9.6...

Dati meron. 8" yung woofer.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gbtormes16 on Dec 02, 2005 at 08:43 AM
Dati meron. 8" yung woofer.

I got my 9.3 when diamond 9 series first came out  early this year. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: atomicat10 on Dec 02, 2005 at 09:29 AM
I'm planning to get the 9.1 tom ask ko lang kasi walang budget for stands, ok lang kayang i set ko sya sa corner tables na glass ang center material? Do i have to pad the glass material of the tables o walang effect yun sa sound?

Also planning to get the 387a (P3,250) yesterday kaya lang may pampagulo akong nakita model AV-5025 ac3 ready 400 watts front (P3,900) solid design(silver) with heatsink (front, gray) tapos sa label sa front may nakalagay micro computer amplifier! May naka-audition na ba ng ganitong amp?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Dec 02, 2005 at 09:50 AM
I'm planning to get the 9.1 tom ask ko lang kasi walang budget for stands, ok lang kayang i set ko sya sa corner tables na glass ang center material? Do i have to pad the glass material of the tables o walang effect yun sa sound?

Thanks.

sir, i would suggest to put some insulation between the glass and your speaker.. may friction yan kahit papano..
tsaka on my part baka magasgasan speaker mo.. you dont want that to happen di ba? kahit simpleng basahan siguro pansamantala ok na... just me..thanks  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 02, 2005 at 05:15 PM
sir, i would suggest to put some insulation between the glass and your speaker.. may friction yan kahit papano..
tsaka on my part baka magasgasan speaker mo.. you dont want that to happen di ba? kahit simpleng basahan siguro pansamantala ok na... just me..thanks  ;)

Tama sir also check for resonance baka kasi ma affect sound quality ng music mo pag meron extra vibration. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on Dec 02, 2005 at 08:04 PM
Turo sa akin ni Fafa Hans that speaker stands make a difference.

So go for the affordable SABRE speaker stands (shameless plug  ;D). Sonny Tuazon has a few on display now.

Lots of models for your budget.

Post naman kayo kung ano hitsura ng Center speaker stands?  Eh, kasi... ano yung, nasa harap ng tv yung stand?  sabagal ata yun.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on Dec 02, 2005 at 08:06 PM
I mean overkill from a price-of-principal (P4,500) to price-of-accessory (P2,500) ratio perspective. It appears to me kasi na medyo high-end na yata yung Praetor sa line ng Sabre. Sir matz, meron ba center stand for the other models? 2 blocks away lang The Home Theater from my office I'll try to drop by when work is lighter.


Doodz, baka nasa parehang bldg tayo... 2 blocks away lang din ako sa HT Shoppe ni Sonny.  :)  Anyway, ba't ayaw nyo ng L type na bar tapos ipako sa TV para may stand na sa itaas?  :)  peace!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: yygoob on Dec 06, 2005 at 04:14 PM
what's the main difference in performance between wharfedale 9sr and 9dfs other the wattage?? thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jeckjeck on Dec 06, 2005 at 04:17 PM
the sr is single direct radiating woofer versus the dfs which is a dipole - 2 woofers -- for HT, best to have the dipole
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: atomicat10 on Dec 06, 2005 at 07:26 PM
ok lang kaya 8.4 sa fronts then 9cs sa center na combo, I know mas maganda match ang same models but planning to get a pre-owned (6.5k) 8.4 and can't afford a 9 series floor standers.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Dec 06, 2005 at 07:43 PM
Ok lang siguro yan. Both use fabric tweets and kevlar woofers naman.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jeckjeck on Dec 06, 2005 at 09:58 PM
Ok lang siguro yan. Both use fabric tweets and kevlar woofers naman.

kaso sir the 9 series has the curved MDF cabinet even for the centers versus the straight box cabinet of the 8 series... may effect kaya ito?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Dec 07, 2005 at 05:33 AM
kaso sir the 9 series has the curved MDF cabinet even for the centers versus the straight box cabinet of the 8 series... may effect kaya ito?

It is my understanding that the best way to achieve timbre matching is to have identical speakers throughout. Next would be having a center from the same brand/range. If that's not possible, an alternative would be having a center w/ the same driver material/driver dimensions. Hope to hear comments from others.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Dec 10, 2005 at 11:59 AM
9.1 n 9cs cherry now available
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ibalon23 on Dec 10, 2005 at 12:43 PM
9.1 n 9cs cherry now available

Hi spectraav,

What's the latest price of 9cs? Is black available?
Thanks,
Ibalon
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ZEPHYR on Dec 11, 2005 at 01:47 AM
9.1 n 9cs cherry now available

What about the cherry 9.2 when will this be available kaya ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Dec 11, 2005 at 10:31 AM
What about the cherry 9.2 when will this be available kaya ::) ::) ::)


no idea kung kelan pa i'll just post it here if meron na
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on Dec 13, 2005 at 05:00 PM
It is my understanding that the best way to achieve timbre matching is to have identical speakers throughout. Next would be having a center from the same brand/range. If that's not possible, an alternative would be having a center w/ the same driver material/driver dimensions. Hope to hear comments from others.

I made sure that my Wharfes 9 is 9 all around.  Kaso, not all around pa.  wala pa akong rears.  I think, better ganun.  Last time, I bought some center not wharfes paired with Wharfes Valdus... not good talaga... labo ng tunog.  Parang nag-iibang tao ang tumatakbo sa kaliwa papuntang kanan.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: odyopayl on Dec 14, 2005 at 12:26 PM
kaso sir the 9 series has the curved MDF cabinet even for the centers versus the straight box cabinet of the 8 series... may effect kaya ito?
In my observation, wharfedale Diamond series always copied the technology of B&W speakers, no wonder they call them "Poor Mans B&W". In their latest 9 series model it almost like the 800 series of B&W (Nautilus) the idea of no 90 degrees corners improves the imaging just like the cone of speakers.

"It avoids the situation with normal cabinet construction, where sound waves from the tweeter not only radiate towards the listener but also travel along the baffle surface towards the cabinet edges. When they meet the sharp cabinet edges they re-radiate (a process known as diffraction) and, due to the time delay, interfere with and time-smear the sound coming directly from the drive unit.  The effects of this improvement in time-coherence are greater clarity and the formation of a more convincing three-dimensional image. "

I had a chance to have both Diamond 8.3 & 8.4 when I heard the 9 series i find it more refined & better soundstage. Not to mention the new driver of 9 series are solid cast aluminum compared to 8 which is just a sheet of metal.(IMHO)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: yvesjae on Dec 19, 2005 at 08:41 AM
plano ko ganito ang set-up ko for my HT

Front: Diamond 9.1
Center: Diamond 9.CS
Rear: Diamond 9.SR
Subs: SW150
Receiver: Yamaha RX-V450

sabi sa akin sa Spectra, Diamond 9.DFS na lang ang gamitin ko para sa rear dahil mahina daw ang Diamond 9.SR.
ok ba ang suggestion nila o di kaya masyado malakas ang Diamond 9.DFS?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: alistair on Dec 19, 2005 at 09:50 AM
Front: Diamond 9.1
Center: Diamond 9.CS
Rear: Diamond 9.SR
Subs: SW150
Receiver: Yamaha RX-V450

sabi sa akin sa Spectra, Diamond 9.DFS na lang ang gamitin ko para sa rear dahil mahina daw ang Diamond 9.SR.
ok ba ang suggestion nila o di kaya masyado malakas ang Diamond 9.DFS?
How big is your space?

Kasi you're already going for the 9.1 + 9.CS anyway. If you think that's enough for your space then I would say the 9.SR would be enough for you as well.

I have the 9.4's + 9.CM, and I only also use a pair of 9.SR's. But since they're placed at the head of my bed close to my own head, I even have to apply -4 or -5 dB adjustment on them or the 'surround' channels tend to overpower or muddy the main channels.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: yvesjae on Dec 19, 2005 at 11:03 AM
How big is your space?

Kasi you're already going for the 9.1 + 9.CS anyway. If you think that's enough for your space then I would say the 9.SR would be enough for you as well.

I have the 9.4's + 9.CM, and I only also use a pair of 9.SR's. But since they're placed at the head of my bed close to my own head, I even have to apply -4 or -5 dB adjustment on them or the 'surround' channels tend to overpower or muddy the main channels.

maliit lng space ko approx. 10 sq/m lang. siguro overkill talaga pag 9.DFS p gamitin ko sa rear. thanks for the reply.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: scofield on Dec 19, 2005 at 11:31 AM
can my hk avr135 drive wharfedale 8.4 speaker? 6 ohms ito dba my avr is rated 45 watts @ 8 ohms
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: backdraft on Dec 19, 2005 at 11:50 AM
my HK 230 can drive my 8.4 with ease  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: scofield on Dec 19, 2005 at 12:38 PM
45 watts lang ksi yung 135. ok ba ang 8.4 sa audio/ht?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: alistair on Dec 19, 2005 at 12:59 PM
can my hk avr135 drive wharfedale 8.4 speaker? 6 ohms ito dba my avr is rated 45 watts @ 8 ohms
It's been said that HK rates its amps/AVRs very conservatively. Hence, the conservative 45 watts/channel rating coupled with HK's 'high current' technology should be able to deliver I'm guessing up to twice that. Also, Wharfedale rates its speakers at 6 ohms but also state that they're compatible with 8 ohm amps.

But don't take the specs as they are. Just look at the number of people who've happily paired their HK's with their Wharfes (I'm one of them). HK AVR 130 + 9.4's (only 86 dB sensitivity), and with a normal CD if I go higher than 10 o'clock (-15 dB) it can already be deafening.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on Dec 19, 2005 at 01:15 PM
plano ko ganito ang set-up ko for my HT

Front: Diamond 9.1
Center: Diamond 9.CS
Rear: Diamond 9.SR
Subs: SW150
Receiver: Yamaha RX-V450

sabi sa akin sa Spectra, Diamond 9.DFS na lang ang gamitin ko para sa rear dahil mahina daw ang Diamond 9.SR.
ok ba ang suggestion nila o di kaya masyado malakas ang Diamond 9.DFS?

Yvesjae, why not go for 9.2 for your front-malaki talaga yun and walang pagsisihan pag andyan na.  Sabi nga ng iba, yung 9.1 pang surrounds lang nga daw eh.  :)  My set-up is 9.2 front, CS for Center, with RXV-450 (Yammy), and I plan to get SR for the rear... but from your inputs, baka DFS nga ba ang mas maganda?  :) What's the approximate price difference between SR and DFS?

Regards.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 19, 2005 at 01:30 PM
Yvesjae, why not go for 9.2 for your front-malaki talaga yun and walang pagsisihan pag andyan na.  Sabi nga ng iba, yung 9.1 pang surrounds lang nga daw eh.  :)  My set-up is 9.2 front, CS for Center, with RXV-450 (Yammy), and I plan to get SR for the rear... but from your inputs, baka DFS nga ba ang mas maganda?  :) What's the approximate price difference between SR and DFS?

Regards.


Bro 9.1 or 9.2 ok yan basta compliment mo ng sub for HT. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: markmlists on Dec 19, 2005 at 06:30 PM
Do diamonds 8 and 9 share the same tweeter? (I read the 8's and the crystals do).  8 and 9 same din kaya?

thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ronjet on Dec 20, 2005 at 02:39 AM
i found out on the net that the selling price of 9.6 is US$800/pair :o :o :o...is this true? sobrang mahal pala talaga sa ibang country nito. how come na dito hindi naman siya ganung kataas price? ::) meron kaya pinagkaiba sa pagkagawa? ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Dec 20, 2005 at 08:33 AM
@ronjet: wala, we're just closer to china hehe ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: yvesjae on Dec 20, 2005 at 08:56 AM
Yvesjae, why not go for 9.2 for your front-malaki talaga yun and walang pagsisihan pag andyan na.  Sabi nga ng iba, yung 9.1 pang surrounds lang nga daw eh.  :)  My set-up is 9.2 front, CS for Center, with RXV-450 (Yammy), and I plan to get SR for the rear... but from your inputs, baka DFS nga ba ang mas maganda?  :) What's the approximate price difference between SR and DFS?

Regards.

napuntahan ko yung website ng wharfedale at pwede mo i-download ang brochure ng diamond 9 series. eto link:
http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/images/ranges/brochure_3.pdf

based dito, recommended lang ang SR para sa 9.1 and 9.2. ang DFS ay preferred pag 9.4 and above ang front mo.
9.SR is P3800 and 9.DFS is P4500 sa Spectra.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: atomicat10 on Dec 21, 2005 at 02:28 AM
I got a diamond 9 cs which was bought just this December, do center speakers need breaking in? How is it done, the same ba sa front speakers?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 21, 2005 at 07:15 AM
I got a diamond 9 cs which was bought just this December, do center speakers need breaking in? How is it done, the same ba sa front speakers?  Thanks.

Yup run them in just like your front speaker. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on Dec 21, 2005 at 11:41 AM
Yup run them in just like your front speaker. :)

tanggalin mo yung cover din para makita mo na kung anong setting sa receiver mo na ni-exercise yung baffles ng center mo ng maayos.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 22, 2005 at 06:59 AM
Guys,

To those who love to bi-wire there Diamonds 9 series use silver wire for your HF and copper for the LF naman.. IMHO better and improved the overall sound.

Di ba sir wanderlust and Lineus? ;D ;D ;D ;D 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Dec 22, 2005 at 07:04 AM
amen ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 22, 2005 at 07:05 AM
amen ::)

Musta pala?? tube amp na ba sir?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Dec 22, 2005 at 07:09 AM
k lang....nope..just got ss sony es amp....m tinking ma rs1 pero rear-ported pala, hirap placement sa smol place.
wharfe9.1 talaga best buy! (para hinde o.t) :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 23, 2005 at 07:33 AM
k lang....nope..just got ss sony es amp....m tinking ma rs1 pero rear-ported pala, hirap placement sa smol place.
wharfe9.1 talaga best buy! (para hinde o.t) :)

Daan ka bahay minsan sir. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Dec 23, 2005 at 08:29 AM
cge..basta coke lang inom ko..yoko SARSi ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: keema on Dec 25, 2005 at 07:44 PM
mga sirs, kaya po bang patunugin ng rxv457 yung floorstander ng wharfedale? o mahihirapan yung receiver ko? bigay naman kayo ng model kung anong pwede sa rxv457...salamat...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Dec 25, 2005 at 08:41 PM
mga sirs, kaya po bang patunugin ng rxv457 yung floorstander ng wharfedale? o mahihirapan yung receiver ko? bigay naman kayo ng model kung anong pwede sa rxv457...salamat...

keema,

had a wharf 9.6, 9cm, wh2, sw150, with yammy 440 driving them.  no sign of strain on the reciever and it drives them with gusto.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: keema on Dec 26, 2005 at 01:14 AM
keema,

had a wharf 9.6, 9cm, wh2, sw150, with yammy 440 driving them.  no sign of strain on the reciever and it drives them with gusto.  :)

sir walang problema yun nung yan yung gamit mong receiver? maganda din ba yung tunog nya? maganda din ba yung ikot ng tunog?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Dec 26, 2005 at 10:23 AM
sir walang problema yun nung yan yung gamit mong receiver? maganda din ba yung tunog nya? maganda din ba yung ikot ng tunog?

no problems whatsoever.......contented with how it sounded but would would be happier with a better sub.  well, it will depend on the size of your room also.

merry xmas.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 27, 2005 at 03:53 PM
mga sirs, kaya po bang patunugin ng rxv457 yung floorstander ng wharfedale? o mahihirapan yung receiver ko? bigay naman kayo ng model kung anong pwede sa rxv457...salamat...

Keema,

Sa HT any speaker model pwede BASTA meron ka Sub to handle LFE nahihirapan AVR pag all the bass and boom are channel sa fronts speaker mo. :) :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: elvenears on Dec 29, 2005 at 07:09 PM
sir i dont know if this will be relevant pero i just acquired a 9.5 ....overall satisfied ako......my verdict is for the price its very,very,very good......lunod talaga ako sa base.....medyo kulang nga lang sa highs pero im very happy with it. my amp is 8 ohms pero wala namang nagiging problema kayang-kaya....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 30, 2005 at 05:54 AM
Guys,

To those who love to bi-wire there Diamonds 9 series use silver wire for your HF and copper for the LF naman.. IMHO better and improved the overall sound.

Di ba sir wanderlust and Lineus? ;D ;D ;D ;D 

Pag nagkaroon ako niyan gagamitin ko sa HF EL84 tapos sa LF EL34 and driven by a KenRad 6SN7 preamp.  ;)

Ang sarap mangarap KoYa.

 ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 31, 2005 at 01:27 PM
Pag nagkaroon ako niyan gagamitin ko sa HF EL84 tapos sa LF EL34 and driven by a KenRad 6SN7 preamp.  ;)

Ang sarap mangarap KoYa.

 ;D ;D ;D



Tsk tsk tsk gastos mo naman sa tubo. pero mukhang positive result yan gagawin mo Doc. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 31, 2005 at 01:28 PM
sir i dont know if this will be relevant pero i just acquired a 9.5 ....overall satisfied ako......my verdict is for the price its very,very,very good......lunod talaga ako sa base.....medyo kulang nga lang sa highs pero im very happy with it. my amp is 8 ohms pero wala namang nagiging problema kayang-kaya....

Try mo ito bro..

.
Guys,

To those who love to bi-wire there Diamonds 9 series use silver wire for your HF and copper for the LF naman.. IMHO better and improved the overall sound.

Di ba sir wanderlust and Lineus? ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 02, 2006 at 12:08 PM
Tsk tsk tsk gastos mo naman sa tubo. pero mukhang positive result yan gagawin mo Doc. ;D

magastos talaga, kaya nga pangarap na lang muna tayo!  ;D ;D ;D


how much po ba yun 9.1?

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Jan 02, 2006 at 11:28 PM
magastos talaga, kaya nga pangarap na lang muna tayo!  ;D ;D ;D


how much po ba yun 9.1?



wag ka na mangarap.  bumili ka na kasi ng bagong 9.1.......i'm sure you will not regret it.  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 03, 2006 at 12:59 AM
wag ka na mangarap.  bumili ka na kasi ng bagong 9.1.......i'm sure you will not regret it.  :D

salamat Jet, pila-pila na yan mga pangarap ko... mauuna lang yun svet para naman may karelyebo yun melody ko. pagkatapos niyan matutupad na ang 9.1 ko!  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 03, 2006 at 10:27 AM
salamat Jet, pila-pila na yan mga pangarap ko... mauuna lang yun svet para naman may karelyebo yun melody ko. pagkatapos niyan matutupad na ang 9.1 ko!  ;D ;D ;D



Ito meron na tube amp..

Quote from: jojod818 board=DIY thread=1107836033 post=1136184732
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

my very own tube amp!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/JD%20Labs%20Tube%20Amp/JDL-Joke.jpg)

 &gt;:( &gt;:( &gt;:( &gt;:(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: zakkaz on Jan 03, 2006 at 11:11 AM
magastos talaga, kaya nga pangarap na lang muna tayo!  ;D ;D ;D


how much po ba yun 9.1?


5500
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 03, 2006 at 11:53 AM
KoYA,

nakadikit pa lang ng glue yan eh. ikaw naman talaga...  ;D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 03, 2006 at 11:54 AM
5500


Thanks for the update bro!

bumili ka din 9.1?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Jan 03, 2006 at 01:42 PM
nasa akin na yung 9.1 ni sir jet  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lonixnepo on Jan 03, 2006 at 02:17 PM
tanong lang po..mas maganda po ba 9.1 kaysa 9.2?..ksi nabili ko 9.2..at matalas sya pag yamaha357 gamit ko...anu po kya un? tsaka -20db na reciever..mahina padin tumunog un 9.2..help nman po..salamat
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ricracer on Jan 03, 2006 at 02:31 PM
-- sabi nung store owner na nabilhan ko ng 9.1, yung WH 9.1 lang daw ang ma-rerecommend niya sa line-up ng Diamonds.  Yun lang daw ang may awards...even sa mga reviews abroad...puro 9.1 lang ang meron at mataas ang rating.   Sobrang satisfied ako sa 9.1 ko paired with a Yamaha 650. 


"tanong lang po..mas maganda po ba 9.1 kaysa 9.2?..ksi nabili ko 9.2..at matalas sya pag yamaha357 gamit ko...anu po kya un? tsaka -20db na reciever..mahina padin tumunog un 9.2..help nman po..salamat "
 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Jan 03, 2006 at 02:36 PM
wharfers B PATIENT ;D takes awhile to break-in burn-in those kevlar speakers b4 they show true colors. and HEED sir hans advise: try silver/copper bi-wire combo  ;D
4 me- hi ho silver ol d way!!! ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lonixnepo on Jan 03, 2006 at 02:55 PM
anu po un bi-wire..san po mas maganda ikabit un wire? sa HF+ or LF+? anu po b yun?

thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 03, 2006 at 09:18 PM
anu po un bi-wire..san po mas maganda ikabit un wire? sa HF+ or LF+? anu po b yun?

thanks

lonixnepo,

ganito ang gawin mo iho...

tanggalin mo yun jumper sa likod ng speaker mo, yun nakakabit sa HF at LF (dalawa yang bakal na yan isa sa pula at isa para sa itim). Tapos kuha ka ng dalawang speaker wires na pareho ang haba, ikabit mo yun isa para sa LF at yun isa para sa HF mo ikabit. tapos pagsamahin mo yun mga dulo, pula sa pula at itim para sa itim, yan ngayon ang ikabit mo sa amp mo.

kung ano mang wire ang dapat gamitin o alin ang pinakamabisang kombinasyon ng wire, si fafa Hans ang tanungin mo nyan.

JojoD
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lonixnepo on Jan 04, 2006 at 11:13 AM
lonixnepo,

ganito ang gawin mo iho...

tanggalin mo yun jumper sa likod ng speaker mo, yun nakakabit sa HF at LF (dalawa yang bakal na yan isa sa pula at isa para sa itim). Tapos kuha ka ng dalawang speaker wires na pareho ang haba, ikabit mo yun isa para sa LF at yun isa para sa HF mo ikabit. tapos pagsamahin mo yun mga dulo, pula sa pula at itim para sa itim, yan ngayon ang ikabit mo sa amp mo.

kung ano mang wire ang dapat gamitin o alin ang pinakamabisang kombinasyon ng wire, si fafa Hans ang tanungin mo nyan.

JojoD


thanks po sir jojo...cge po.try ko....wat if di ko po sya i bi-wired..ok lng po b un..san conection kop o sya ikakabit..thanks..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 04, 2006 at 08:06 PM

thanks po sir jojo...cge po.try ko....wat if di ko po sya i bi-wired..ok lng po b un..san conection kop o sya ikakabit..thanks..

Kung di mo type mag bi-wired pwede rin.. hook them like the way you connect it sa amp mo. + sa positive while - negative always follow the correct polarity para di off pace yun sound.. Now in case directional yun speaker wire mo just follow the proper flow.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 04, 2006 at 08:11 PM
tanong lang po..mas maganda po ba 9.1 kaysa 9.2?..ksi nabili ko 9.2..at matalas sya pag yamaha357 gamit ko...anu po kya un? tsaka -20db na reciever..mahina padin tumunog un 9.2..help nman po..salamat

Lakas o level ng sound produce ng speaker wala sa -db ng volume .. Important is maganda and malinis ( distortion free ) yun sound from your speaker kahit na i todo mo.

Btw since you mention kabibili mo lang ng 9.2 i-break in mo muna konti before you increase volume level to high para di mabigla speaker mo. running time usually mga 150 to 200 hours maluwag luwag na sound. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 04, 2006 at 08:20 PM
wharfers B PATIENT ;D takes awhile to break-in burn-in those kevlar speakers b4 they show true colors. and HEED sir hans advise: try silver/copper bi-wire combo  ;D
4 me- hi ho silver ol d way!!! ::)

Tama ka sir.. my Wharf Pacific Evo30 took me 6 months pero very very worth ang wait ;D ;D ;D

Bi-wired agree provide better performance. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Jan 04, 2006 at 08:38 PM
suggest may "itanong mo k hans" thread for newbies ;D

Lakas o level ng sound produce ng speaker wala sa -db ng volume .. Important is maganda and malinis ( distortion free ) yun sound from your speaker kahit na i todo mo.
Agree! Spin a win! 4 me mas importante maganda tumunog at hindi nakakarindi ng tenga (ear fatigue).  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 04, 2006 at 08:42 PM
suggest may "itanong mo k hans" thread for newbies ;D

Wag po itanong kay Hans at baka mali masagot hehehehe ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: silent_loud21 on Jan 05, 2006 at 08:43 AM
mga Sir., patulong lang po, pls.. recommend naman kayo ng speaker for my onkyo and for my sub cht10r nagdadalawang isip ako sa 9.2 and 9.1 for the front or buying a MS premiere.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 05, 2006 at 11:55 AM
mga Sir., patulong lang po, pls.. recommend naman kayo ng speaker for my onkyo and for my sub cht10r nagdadalawang isip ako sa 9.2 and 9.1 for the front or buying a MS premiere.

Bakit ano concern mo sa 9.2 and 9.1 sir?? :) :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: yvesjae on Jan 05, 2006 at 01:56 PM
wharfers B PATIENT ;D takes awhile to break-in burn-in those kevlar speakers b4 they show true colors. and HEED sir hans advise: try silver/copper bi-wire combo  ;D
4 me- hi ho silver ol d way!!! ::)

sir, interested ako dyan sa silver/copper bi-wire combo.
bale yung silver wire is for the tweeter and the copper wire is for the woofer? tama po ba?
i have diamond 9.4 and currently using GA14 copper wire. Anong gauge ng silver wire ang dapat gamitin and how much per meter ito?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Jan 05, 2006 at 03:24 PM
sir, interested ako dyan sa silver/copper bi-wire combo.
bale yung silver wire is for the tweeter and the copper wire is for the woofer? tama po ba?
i have diamond 9.4 and currently using GA14 copper wire. Anong gauge ng silver wire ang dapat gamitin and how much per meter ito?
paging sir hans...payong kafatid needed ;D
sir. ung sa akin QED ....check www.qed.co.uk
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=44964.new#new 
:)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 05, 2006 at 03:33 PM
sir, interested ako dyan sa silver/copper bi-wire combo.
bale yung silver wire is for the tweeter and the copper wire is for the woofer? tama po ba?
i have diamond 9.4 and currently using GA14 copper wire. Anong gauge ng silver wire ang dapat gamitin and how much per meter ito?

Sana same gauge and same length. btw check out sir Oweidah's for sale ganda yun QED. ;) ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Jan 05, 2006 at 04:46 PM
sir recommend ko chord carnival classic speaker cable for LF - hanep humataw bayo! ang nipis- around gauge 16? but u gotta hear it, dba sir linnaeus? hinde lang pambahay, pang-tsikot pa!  ;D unfortunately sold out na chord kbol ko, isang fellow member na lang ang alam kong meron neto... kilala ni sir hans :-X

btw, you can also change the wharfdale diamond's stock jumper to a cable of your preference (that will suit your aural taste)

sir, interested ako dyan sa silver/copper bi-wire combo.
bale yung silver wire is for the tweeter and the copper wire is for the woofer? tama po ba?
i have diamond 9.4 and currently using GA14 copper wire. Anong gauge ng silver wire ang dapat gamitin and how much per meter ito?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jakeadriano on Jan 05, 2006 at 11:27 PM
mga sir, ano po ba un pinaka best among the cheapest tube or ss amp na marerecomend nyo para sa diamond 9.1?  ??? ??? :-\ :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: yvesjae on Jan 06, 2006 at 07:53 AM
btw, you can also change the wharfdale diamond's stock jumper to a cable of your preference (that will suit your aural taste)


paano ko palitan ang stock jumper? may pics ka ba nito?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Jan 06, 2006 at 11:35 AM
sir wala p0 ako pix. try browsing the "bi-wiring" thread.
1. unscrew the terminals at the back of the speaker and remove the stock jumpers - [two (2)jumpers per speaker]
2. cut four (4) strips. (6inch/strip) speaker wires of your choice -
3. splice the speaker wire ends.
4. you may use bare wires Or banana plugs or spade lugs if you wish to terminate the cable jumpers.
5. install the wires LF(+) to HF(+) and LF(-) to HF (-).

now you may connect the speaker wires from the amp. either to the LF or HF terminals. experiment which will give u d desired effect.  :)
paano ko palitan ang stock jumper? may pics ka ba nito?

sirs, any user reviews for whardale diamond 9.5? tia
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 06, 2006 at 01:24 PM
mga sir, ano po ba un pinaka best among the cheapest tube or ss amp na marerecomend nyo para sa diamond 9.1?  ??? ??? :-\ :)

AMX budget amp for P17k. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jakeadriano on Jan 06, 2006 at 03:28 PM
sir hans, un amx sonatina el84 ok kaya s 9.1. thanx.??? :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 06, 2006 at 03:45 PM
sir hans, un amx sonatina el84 ok kaya s 9.1. thanx.??? :)

Sir 12watts yun EL84 baka di marinig potential ng combo sayang sana kahit 25 watts na tube amp. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jakeadriano on Jan 06, 2006 at 03:52 PM
ok sir hans many thanx. sana minsan marinig ko din rs1 mo..:) :) :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 06, 2006 at 06:18 PM
ok sir hans many thanx. sana minsan marinig ko din rs1 mo..:) :) :D

Sure.. sched natin si Bono punta din dala Cayin nya pero wala pa kami sched. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jakeadriano on Jan 06, 2006 at 07:43 PM
sige sir kausapin ko bono. T.Y.;D :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ndotcom on Jan 06, 2006 at 09:40 PM
Mga sir ask ko lang kung locally available na 9 series are magenitically shielded or baka yung center lang?

TNX!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ibalon23 on Jan 07, 2006 at 10:04 AM
Mga sir ask ko lang kung locally available na 9 series are magenitically shielded or baka yung center lang?

TNX!

Based on the Diamond 9 series manual " All Diamond 9 bookshelfs and floorstanding loudspeaker are magnetically shielded so they can be positioned close to TV screens and monitors with no ill-effects or color distortions"
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: skylark on Jan 09, 2006 at 05:47 AM
Sir cno po gumagamit ng 9.3 d2 any review planning to buy im using denon avr oks kaya combo

ty
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: alas6 on Jan 09, 2006 at 09:52 PM
question po: i'm thinking of replacing my diamond 7.3 speakers which i've been using for a few years now...is it now outdated na dapat ko nang palitan?  kung sakali, ano po bang wharfs ang puede ninyong i-recommend na pamalit dito?   ???

btw, i'm using the hk avr-235.  thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: silent_loud21 on Jan 10, 2006 at 05:03 AM
Posted on: Jan 05, 2006 at 11:55 AMPosted by: hans adriane 
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Quote from: magzzz on Jan 05, 2006 at 08:43 AM
mga Sir., patulong lang po, pls.. recommend naman kayo ng speaker for my onkyo and for my sub cht10r nagdadalawang isip ako sa 9.2 and 9.1 for the front or buying a MS premiere.


"Bakit ano concern mo sa 9.2 and 9.1"

price value vs. performances po. Anu po ba pinagkaiba nila interms of sound performace. ok po ba konbinasyon ng onkyo601 and diamond 9.salamat po
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 10, 2006 at 01:33 PM
Posted on: Jan 05, 2006 at 11:55 AMPosted by: hans adriane 
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Quote from: magzzz on Jan 05, 2006 at 08:43 AM
mga Sir., patulong lang po, pls.. recommend naman kayo ng speaker for my onkyo and for my sub cht10r nagdadalawang isip ako sa 9.2 and 9.1 for the front or buying a MS premiere.


"Bakit ano concern mo sa 9.2 and 9.1"

price value vs. performances po. Anu po ba pinagkaiba nila interms of sound performace. ok po ba konbinasyon ng onkyo601 and diamond 9.salamat po

Had the chance to have Onkyo and Diamond 8 series ( 8.2 & 8.1 ) the combo was warm sounding. As a friend of mine said.. Relaxing ang vocals and not tiring meron detail na konti. :) :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 15, 2006 at 02:21 AM
I have been listening to a pair of 9.1 bookshelves hooked up to a 56-watt valve-buffered IGC for about 5 hours now.  I was in a hurry so I just used a passive pot with an upgraded Sony 502ES surplus cdp for the frontend.

I wasn't expecting much from it but what I experienced was totally unexpected. I'm not much for words nor descriptions but what I heared with my own ears, I honestly liked. I'm very happy, and that's what matters most.

Thank you so very much to my friend who let me have these wonderful speakers.

JojoD818

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Superman on Jan 15, 2006 at 08:57 AM
doc, congrats! :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Jan 15, 2006 at 08:51 PM
I have been listening to a pair of 9.1 bookshelves hooked up to a 56-watt valve-buffered IGC for about 5 hours now.  I was in a hurry so I just used a passive pot with an upgraded Sony 502ES surplus cdp for the frontend.

I wasn't expecting much from it but what I experienced was totally unexpected. I'm not much for words nor descriptions but what I heared with my own ears, I honestly liked. I'm very happy, and that's what matters most.

Thank you so very much to my friend who let me have these wonderful speakers.

JojoD818



ganda yan jojo!  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 15, 2006 at 09:15 PM
ganda yan jojo!  :D

jet,

ty pare, ganda nga talaga. sakto lang sa type ko na tunog.

ikakabit ko sana sa leach amp at fm tuner para continous break in pa pero para sa akin ok na tunog.   :D

OT: ipapaalala ko na sa iyo yun naiwan mo next session!  >:(

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 16, 2006 at 08:50 AM
I have been listening to a pair of 9.1 bookshelves hooked up to a 56-watt valve-buffered IGC for about 5 hours now.  I was in a hurry so I just used a passive pot with an upgraded Sony 502ES surplus cdp for the frontend.

I wasn't expecting much from it but what I experienced was totally unexpected. I'm not much for words nor descriptions but what I heared with my own ears, I honestly liked. I'm very happy, and that's what matters most.

Thank you so very much to my friend who let me have these wonderful speakers.

JojoD818



DrKYgeli,

Congrats sa new toy mo!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 16, 2006 at 12:17 PM
DrKYgeli,

Congrats sa new toy mo!! ;D ;D ;D
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KoyA,

Thanks! Paano na nga mag bi-wire?  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D





OT: ganda ng boses ko.... platinum+gainclone+9.1  :o

hahaha! sarap ng trip!

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: natural on Jan 24, 2006 at 09:44 AM
Hi,

Is it ok to remove the gold-plated metal straps on the Wh 9.2 binding posts and replace them with a short 14ga AudioPro cables like a jumper?

TIA
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Jan 24, 2006 at 02:17 PM
Hi,

Is it ok to remove the gold-plated metal straps on the Wh 9.2 binding posts and replace them with a short 14ga AudioPro cables like a jumper?

TIA

yes it's ok. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: elvenears on Jan 24, 2006 at 02:31 PM



bi wire madali you just need 2 sets of wires .....i think meron nang thread dito about that kasi if i try to explain medyo mahaba din hehehhe..by the way meron din pala akong 9.5....all praises maganda for the price /performance ratio very good ...distinct base and good mids
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: knefut on Jan 24, 2006 at 04:44 PM
Hi,

Is it ok to remove the gold-plated metal straps on the Wh 9.2 binding posts and replace them with a short 14ga AudioPro cables like a jumper?

TIA

mas maganda if i bi wire nyo na lang sir.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: natural on Jan 24, 2006 at 07:59 PM
mas maganda if i bi wire nyo na lang sir.


Thanks for the replies. Was thinking of biwiring, actually. Pero baka sa weekend na para may time to buy the cables and do it. Changing the metal straps is something I can do immediately since I have a meter or so of AudioPro left. Now, where's that cutter ....

I have the 9.2 for about two weeks now and still in the break-in stage. Dunno what to expect really with the changes, but i'm currently happy with the musical output of the 9.2 paired with the HK 135.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Jan 25, 2006 at 06:16 AM

Thanks for the replies. Was thinking of biwiring, actually. Pero baka sa weekend na para may time to buy the cables and do it. Changing the metal straps is something I can do immediately since I have a meter or so of AudioPro left. Now, where's that cutter ....

I have the 9.2 for about two weeks now and still in the break-in stage. Dunno what to expect really with the changes, but i'm currently happy with the musical output of the 9.2 paired with the HK 135.

congrats bro!
pero mas ok sana kung power amp gamit mong pang break in.
me for 3 weeks halos  break in na 9.5 ko.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 25, 2006 at 11:12 AM
Guys,

Better to use mga break in cd para laht ng frequency eh ma sweep.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: elvenears on Jan 25, 2006 at 11:42 AM
Guys,

Better to use mga break in cd para laht ng frequency eh ma sweep.. ;D

 :o hah.....meron pala nito....saan meron at magkano.....music ba to sir o white noises lang?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Jan 25, 2006 at 12:18 PM
Guys,

Better to use mga break in cd para laht ng frequency eh ma sweep.. ;D

tama ka jan sir.  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 25, 2006 at 12:50 PM
:o hah.....meron pala nito....saan meron at magkano.....music ba to sir o white noises lang?

halo sila try to contact Watt Hifi baka meron pa XLO burn in cd. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: natural on Jan 25, 2006 at 03:59 PM
Better to use mga break in cd para laht ng frequency eh ma sweep.. ;D

I'm currently using Quad Maximus Bass Mekanik (http://tinyurl.com/77r8a) for testing the speakers when I have time.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 27, 2006 at 10:55 AM
I'm currently using Quad Maximus Bass Mekanik (http://tinyurl.com/77r8a) for testing the speakers when I have time.

Hhmm... meron din ako niyan Bass Mekanik cd pero bakit yun kopya ko meron babe na nakatayo sa tabi nun car?  :o

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: elvenears on Jan 27, 2006 at 11:11 AM
sir jojod818 meron ba kayong pwedeng i recomend na yung mga pwedeng i-download



sir hans san pwede i-download to kung meron tong XLO
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: natural on Jan 27, 2006 at 06:31 PM
Hhmm... meron din ako niyan Bass Mekanik cd pero bakit yun kopya ko meron babe na nakatayo sa tabi nun car?  :o

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

That's more likely the 'Explicit' :o version.  ;)

This CD is giving my Wharfes a real workout.


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on Jan 29, 2006 at 05:02 PM
mga gurus,

malaki ba difference ng 9cs sa 9cm?  plano ko kasi 9.1 fronts + 9cm.  which is better with 9.1 fronts?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 29, 2006 at 05:05 PM
sir jojod818 meron ba kayong pwedeng i recomend na yung mga pwedeng i-download



sir hans san pwede i-download to kung meron tong XLO

Wala ako alam na pwede i-download eh, try searching na lang - parang madami nga yata na pwede i-download.  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 29, 2006 at 05:08 PM
That's more likely the 'Explicit' :o version.  ;)

This CD is giving my Wharfes a real workout.




You're probably right, the babe pose in the cd cover is kinda "explicit" too.  ;D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: yvesjae on Jan 30, 2006 at 09:01 AM
mga gurus,

malaki ba difference ng 9cs sa 9cm?  plano ko kasi 9.1 fronts + 9cm.  which is better with 9.1 fronts?

ok na yung 9.cs para sa 9.1.
9.cm would be better paired with 9.5 or 9.6
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: elvenears on Jan 30, 2006 at 09:51 AM
ok na yung 9.cs para sa 9.1.
9.cm would be better paired with 9.5 or 9.6

 i agree ......mid size for mid size ,,,,,,big for big
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on Jan 30, 2006 at 11:03 AM
ok na yung 9.cs para sa 9.1.
9.cm would be better paired with 9.5 or 9.6

thanks yvesjae and elvenears for the tip.  audition ko sila ulit.  how about 9.2?  9cs parin ba?  room is 3 x 5m(viewing sa 5m wall dahil daanan ang 3m).  or should i go floorstanders? 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: qwcd on Jan 30, 2006 at 11:17 AM
thanks yvesjae and elvenears for the tip.  audition ko sila ulit.  how about 9.2?  9cs parin ba?  room is 3 x 5m(viewing sa 5m wall dahil daanan ang 3m).  or should i go floorstanders? 

yes ok pa rin iyan, 9.4 and 9cs ang gamit ko.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: elvenears on Jan 30, 2006 at 11:54 AM
imho i think you should only buy book shelf i do have the same rrom size and i have 9.5's masyadong boomy if not placed correctly......pero kung gusto mo ng 9.5 or 9.6 nobody is stoping you from buying one ;D as for me i would get floorstanders for the front for me it sounds and feels better ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on Jan 30, 2006 at 09:36 PM
thanks for the feedback sirs, decided to get the 9.1s + 9cs due to room and budget constraints narin hehe.  break-in time. :) 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jeckjeck on Jan 30, 2006 at 09:40 PM
thanks for the feedback sirs, decided to get the 9.1s + 9cs due to room and budget constraints narin hehe.  break-in time. :) 

congrats sir taggart! welcome to the Diamond 9 owners club  ;D... you'll really love the 9.1s!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on Jan 30, 2006 at 10:56 PM
thanks sir jeckjeck! :)  will try to give feedback once they're broken-in na.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Jan 30, 2006 at 11:53 PM
thanks sir jeckjeck! :)  will try to give feedback once they're broken-in na.

taggart,

congrats! i had my time with those babies.  it's really value for money.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on Jan 31, 2006 at 12:14 AM
thanks sir jetok!  value for money talaga hehe.  now all i need is a tv. ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: yvesjae on Jan 31, 2006 at 08:47 AM
yes ok pa rin iyan, 9.4 and 9cs ang gamit ko.  :)

sir qwcd, anong gamit nyo sub and surrounds para sa 9.4 and 9.cs?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: markmlists on Jan 31, 2006 at 10:18 PM
Help please ..(thanks)

What is the lowest powered amp you have  tried with your diamond 9 at acceptable volume level?
What is the power of the amp in watts?
Which dimond model?

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Feb 01, 2006 at 03:15 AM
Help please ..(thanks)

What is the lowest powered amp you have  tried with your diamond 9 at acceptable volume level?
What is the power of the amp in watts?
Which dimond model?

Thanks in advance!

Lowest power amp I tried with a respectable volume level without is an LM1875 gainclone.
Power is 18W per channel.
Diamond 9.1

Your welcome.  ;D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: elvenears on Feb 01, 2006 at 04:14 AM
Help please ..(thanks)

What is the lowest powered amp you have  tried with your diamond 9 at acceptable volume level?
What is the power of the amp in watts?
Which dimond model?

Thanks in advance!

technics su-6 (ver old integrated amp ,circa 1970's or 80's ata),35 watts on wharfs 9.5 ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Feb 01, 2006 at 09:42 AM
25 watter amx el34 tube amp with 9.1 and 9.6.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: backdraft on Feb 01, 2006 at 02:35 PM

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25 watter amx el34 tube amp

LM1875 gainclone

how much are these amps?

thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Feb 01, 2006 at 03:19 PM
both amps are cheap relative to their more famous counterparts.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ding45 on Feb 01, 2006 at 04:22 PM
Sonic Impact T + Diamond 9.1 ... Setup is in the bedroom and volume level between 9 & 10 o'clock. I have since used as preamp an Azur 540A so I can have multiple inputs.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: markmlists on Feb 02, 2006 at 10:31 AM
Maraming Salamat sa lahat ng nag respond.
Others are also welcome to share their experience about pairing d9's with low power amp.
Thanks again,
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: qwcd on Feb 02, 2006 at 10:56 AM
sir qwcd, anong gamit nyo sub and surrounds para sa 9.4 and 9.cs?

surrounds are 9.1 and sub us audio 512; the 9.1 naka-kabit sa  bose am5 subs.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Feb 02, 2006 at 11:53 AM
Help please ..(thanks)

What is the lowest powered amp you have  tried with your diamond 9 at acceptable volume level?
What is the power of the amp in watts?
Which dimond model?

Thanks in advance!

9.2 driven by 30 watter AMX tube amp. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: backdraft on Feb 02, 2006 at 06:39 PM
9.2 driven by 30 watter AMX tube amp. :)

bro, how much does the AMX costs and how does it sound with the 9.2?

thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: keema on Feb 03, 2006 at 08:41 PM
sirs, anong mas magandang gawing surround speakers...yung dipole ba yun? or bookshelf na 9.1? pwede din ba yung 9.2?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jeckjeck on Feb 03, 2006 at 09:24 PM
for me sir, depends on your use... if for mostly movies, go for the dipoles... kung audio, get the SR or even the 9.1 but sayang yung 9.1 kung pang surrounds lang...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: keema on Feb 04, 2006 at 01:03 AM
okay sir, salamat sa sagot..pag iisipan ko nalang..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Feb 04, 2006 at 10:11 AM
bro, how much does the AMX costs and how does it sound with the 9.2?

thanks.

Integrated AMX EL34 25watts budget amp goes around 17k.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: yvesjae on Feb 07, 2006 at 04:17 PM
What's the price for SW-250 nowadays?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: backdraft on Feb 08, 2006 at 01:55 PM
Integrated AMX EL34 25watts budget amp goes around 17k.

thanks sir hans !!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: keema on Feb 09, 2006 at 10:24 AM
mga sirs, ano po bang pinag kaiba nung wh dipole surround dun sa diamond 9 na dfs? yung model lang ba? parehas lang ba sila ng specs?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on Feb 14, 2006 at 01:06 AM
question din sa mga may 9cs...meron bang kasamang rubber feet ito?  akin kasi wala pero nakalagay sa manual meron daw.  which is which? ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Feb 14, 2006 at 03:08 AM
mga sirs, ano po bang pinag kaiba nung wh dipole surround dun sa diamond 9 na dfs? yung model lang ba? parehas lang ba sila ng specs?

the diamond 9 dfs is larger and has different woofers from the dfs.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: yvesjae on Feb 14, 2006 at 09:22 AM
question din sa mga may 9cs...meron bang kasamang rubber feet ito?  akin kasi wala pero nakalagay sa manual meron daw.  which is which? ;D

dapat meron syang 4 na rubber feet installed. ganon ang sa akin.
according din sa manual, meron dapat kasama na extra taller rubber feets para kung i-angle mo yung position ng 9cs. eto ang wala kasama sa nabili ko 9cs.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spy45cal on Feb 14, 2006 at 10:07 PM
question din sa mga may 9cs...meron bang kasamang rubber feet ito?  akin kasi wala pero nakalagay sa manual meron daw.  which is which? ;D

Ganun ata talga mga bro...  Got also my 9cm today, wala din kasama extra feet... anyone can tell me how to break in my center speaker properly?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: @nk71 on Feb 15, 2006 at 12:54 AM
Fellow wharfe enthusiast, Im thinking of buying 9.5 and 9CM anung maganda ilagay na rear para dto...

I'll be using Yammy 657

lastly nag kakaroon ba ng sale ang mga Wharfedale speakers and where to buy at d lowest possible price...coz Im planning to buy them isang bagsakan pag naka sale or bumaba para sulit...
thanks in advance sa mga advices ninyo... :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on Feb 15, 2006 at 02:37 AM
dapat meron syang 4 na rubber feet installed. ganon ang sa akin.
according din sa manual, meron dapat kasama na extra taller rubber feets para kung i-angle mo yung position ng 9cs. eto ang wala kasama sa nabili ko 9cs.

thanks sa confirmation bro yvesjae...hingin ko na lang sa spectra.   
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sillyputty on Feb 15, 2006 at 09:16 AM
got mine from sir sonny...may free delivery pa.
got the 9cs, 9dfs and 9sr. meron na kasi ako nung  9.1 for fronts in a 7.1 system.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Feb 15, 2006 at 11:18 AM
Sa mga nakakuha ng Diamond 9.5, may kasama bang plinth and adjustable metal spikes?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: @nk71 on Feb 15, 2006 at 09:14 PM
got mine from sir sonny...may free delivery pa.
got the 9cs, 9dfs and 9sr. meron na kasi ako nung  9.1 for fronts in a 7.1 system.

ask ko lang saan shop or store ni Sir Sonny...thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: scoob on Feb 15, 2006 at 09:23 PM
ask ko lang saan shop or store ni Sir Sonny...thanks

The Home Theater
UG-8 Prince Tower, Tordesillas cor, Bautista Sts.
Salcedo Village Makati City

Tel No: 8138443


This is very near the Makati Sports Club
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: @nk71 on Feb 15, 2006 at 09:47 PM
The Home Theater
UG-8 Prince Tower, Tordesillas cor, Bautista Sts.
Salcedo Village Makati City

Tel No: 8138443


This is very near the Makati Sports Club

thanks scoob
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bhongskie on Feb 22, 2006 at 02:18 PM
Sa mga nakakuha ng Diamond 9.5, may kasama bang plinth and adjustable metal spikes?

The package should include the plinths and metal spikes.  Mine has them.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Feb 23, 2006 at 12:08 AM
Thanks, bosing.  I finally got my speakers yesterday, meron namang plinths and spikes. Hindi ko siguro magagamit ang spikes, pero dapat pa ring may spikes sa set, para mas madaling ibenta when the time comes.     
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shotgun on Feb 23, 2006 at 09:11 AM
I just got a a pair of Diamond 9.2s for my T-Amp. I've been using my Marantz to break them in and I'm impressed! You really can't beat the price/performance (except for DIYs maybe)!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on Mar 01, 2006 at 05:19 PM
impressions ko after using rxv750+9.1+9cs+wh2+sw150 for HT.  wow!  very well-integrated yung sound at panning is pretty good.  yung namiss ko lang sa floorstanders ko dati is the gunshots have more depth and sound more realistic.  other than that this is a good combo.  also had an issue with the left 9.1 crackling on loud complex scenes which turned out to be due to a loose connection.  also got the rubber feet from spectra na.  nice!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 01, 2006 at 05:24 PM
impressions ko after using rxv750+9.1+9cs+wh2+sw150 for HT.  wow!  very well-integrated yung sound at panning is pretty good.  yung namiss ko lang sa floorstanders ko dati is the gunshots have more depth and sound more realistic.  other than that this is a good combo.  also had an issue with the left 9.1 crackling on loud complex scenes which turned out to be due to a loose connection.  also got the rubber feet from spectra na.  nice!

Yup even with just 9.1 kakatuwa yun panning walang butas sa sound.. Congrats dyan sir.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spy45cal on Mar 01, 2006 at 08:04 PM
Guys...

Ok lan kaya ang ganitong setup:
Center - Diamond 9cm
Fronts - Diamond 9.5
Surrounds - Diamond 9 DFS
Surround Back - Diamond 9 DFS

for my 16sq.m. room?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jeckjeck on Mar 01, 2006 at 09:54 PM
baka malaki masyado 9.5 for your room... siguro kuha ka na lang ng 9.2 or 9.4 then use the extra money for a good sub...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on Mar 02, 2006 at 12:01 PM
thanks sir hans!  for the quality and sound, bang for the buck talaga! 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spy45cal on Mar 04, 2006 at 07:23 AM
baka malaki masyado 9.5 for your room... siguro kuha ka na lang ng 9.2 or 9.4 then use the extra money for a good sub...

Sir  jeckjeck...

what if i use 9.5 without a sub? kaya na kaya nya i-handle yung LFE? Like saving private ryan?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Mar 04, 2006 at 02:50 PM
Makikisabat muna ako habang wala pang reply si sir jeckjeck.

Kayang-kaya naman ng 9.5 ang LFE kahit walang sub. 

Ang problema lang ng floorstanders na walang sub, nababawasan nang konti ang midrange and mid-bass clarity pag nasa "Large" ang speaker setting ng receiver.  Pag nilagyan mo ng crossover, biglang lumilinaw ang mids.  So, advisable pa rin ang crossover cut-off with sub (by setting speakers to "Small" on the receiver) kahit naka-floorstander ka.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spy45cal on Mar 04, 2006 at 10:10 PM
Makikisabat muna ako habang wala pang reply si sir jeckjeck.

Kayang-kaya naman ng 9.5 ang LFE kahit walang sub. 

Ang problema lang ng floorstanders na walang sub, nababawasan nang konti ang midrange and mid-bass clarity pag nasa "Large" ang speaker setting ng receiver.  Pag nilagyan mo ng crossover, biglang lumilinaw ang mids.  So, advisable pa rin ang crossover cut-off with sub (by setting speakers to "Small" on the receiver) kahit naka-floorstander ka.

Thanks sa reply bro... ;D

So ibig sabihin, I need to buy a sub.... ;D Gastos talaga ng hobby na ito.... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ronjet on Mar 04, 2006 at 11:22 PM
Thanks sa reply bro... ;D

So ibig sabihin, I need to buy a sub.... ;D Gastos talaga ng hobby na ito.... ;D

sir spy, if you're more onto HT talaga and big concern mo is the LFE from film like the one you had mention po.definitely A BIG YES!  IMHO, a SUB IS A MUST in HT. ;) ok lang po yan sir, pag ginastosan mo yung sub,khit anong brand pa yan.enjoy na enjoy mo talaga HT mo 8) iba parin talaga ang may sub pagdating sa ht.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spy45cal on Mar 05, 2006 at 08:03 AM
sir spy, if you're more onto HT talaga and big concern mo is the LFE from film like the one you had mention po.definitely A BIG YES!  IMHO, a SUB IS A MUST in HT. ;) ok lang po yan sir, pag ginastosan mo yung sub,khit anong brand pa yan.enjoy na enjoy mo talaga HT mo 8) iba parin talaga ang may sub pagdating sa ht.

I'm plannig to buy a 9.5 this month... ;D  Ano kaya sa tingin nyo dapat ko unahin? Front speaker (Wharfe Diamond 9.5) or Sub (SW150)?
BTW i already have:

avr: hk235
center: Wharfe Diamond 9cm
front: mini compo speaker (Phillips 3000w PMPO)
surround: mini compo speaker ( Sony 75w max)

What do you think mga bro?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jeckjeck on Mar 05, 2006 at 08:45 AM
Sir  jeckjeck...

what if i use 9.5 without a sub? kaya na kaya nya i-handle yung LFE? Like saving private ryan?

I guess nasagot na ng iba. As already mentioned, if you are more into, HT hindi pwedeng walang sub... Butas yung LFE mo nyan... I suggest you get a 9.2 bookshelf or a 9.4 kung gusto mo talaga ng floorstander then buy a very good 10 to 12 inch sub like a Velodyne or a Klipsch or a Polk Audio...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Mar 05, 2006 at 12:04 PM
I'm plannig to buy a 9.5 this month... ;D  Ano kaya sa tingin nyo dapat ko unahin? Front speaker (Wharfe Diamond 9.5) or Sub (SW150)?
BTW i already have:

avr: hk235
center: Wharfe Diamond 9cm
front: mini compo speaker (Phillips 3000w PMPO)
surround: mini compo speaker ( Sony 75w max)

What do you think mga bro?

spy45cal,

IMHO dapat mo unahin yung 9.5 before the sub since meron ka na pala 9cm to get timbre matching.  you may want to look at other brands of subwoofer na mas mura or mas mahal sa sw150 depending on your budget, 10" or 12" will do but since you mentioned that you are more into ht i suggest 12" na. 

i was an ex-owner of sw150,  for me bitin sa ht pero for audio ok sya.  compared it to kimpao's dq12 and a friend's US audio 12".....better LFE yung dalawang 12" sub sa HT pero the sw150 had an edge when it comes to audio.  Heard matzter's velodyne and all i can say is.....PANALO  :o! syempre ibang price bracket na ang velodynes.  ;D

you can also look at the marketplace for preowned subs (US audio, Dynaquest dq12, velodyne) from fellow pinoydvd members kung gusto mo makatipid at makatulong.  ;D  last mo na kunin yung surrounds.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spy45cal on Mar 05, 2006 at 03:28 PM
I guess nasagot na ng iba. As already mentioned, if you are more into, HT hindi pwedeng walang sub... Butas yung LFE mo nyan... I suggest you get a 9.2 bookshelf or a 9.4 kung gusto mo talaga ng floorstander then buy a very good 10 to 12 inch sub like a Velodyne or a Klipsch or a Polk Audio...


Thanks Sir,

What do you mean butas yung LFE?
Regarding sa sub di ko kaya ang velo n klipsch e... Mga 10K lan budget ko for sub....  ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spy45cal on Mar 05, 2006 at 03:31 PM
spy45cal,

IMHO dapat mo unahin yung 9.5 before the sub since meron ka na pala 9cm to get timbre matching.  you may want to look at other brands of subwoofer na mas mura or mas mahal sa sw150 depending on your budget, 10" or 12" will do but since you mentioned that you are more into ht i suggest 12" na. 

i was an ex-owner of sw150,  for me bitin sa ht pero for audio ok sya.  compared it to kimpao's dq12 and a friend's US audio 12".....better LFE yung dalawang 12" sub sa HT pero the sw150 had an edge when it comes to audio.  Heard matzter's velodyne and all i can say is.....PANALO  :o! syempre ibang price bracket na ang velodynes.  ;D

you can also look at the marketplace for preowned subs (US audio, Dynaquest dq12, velodyne) from fellow pinoydvd members kung gusto mo makatipid at makatulong.  ;D  last mo na kunin yung surrounds.

Thanks sir,

What do you recommend na sub na ok for HT pero 10K below ang budget? Syempre compatible with wharfe's.... ;D  Sorry Mods medyo OT na ata yung topic....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Mar 05, 2006 at 06:44 PM
Thanks sir,

What do you recommend na sub na ok for HT pero 10K below ang budget? Syempre compatible with wharfe's.... ;D  Sorry Mods medyo OT na ata yung topic....

US audio 512 or dynaquest dq12 lang ang napakinggan ko na sub10k aside from sw150.   
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Mar 06, 2006 at 12:29 AM
I'm plannig to buy a 9.5 this month... ;D  Ano kaya sa tingin nyo dapat ko unahin? Front speaker (Wharfe Diamond 9.5) or Sub (SW150)?
BTW i already have:

avr: hk235
center: Wharfe Diamond 9cm
front: mini compo speaker (Phillips 3000w PMPO)
surround: mini compo speaker ( Sony 75w max)

What do you think mga bro?


Agree ako kay sir jetok --  Wharfe 9.5 na lang ang bilhin mo instead of a sub.

Ang sub kasi, paminsan-minsan lang gumagana nang malakas. 

At hindi mo dapat masyadong taasan ang volume level.  Pag bago ka pa lang, ang tendency kasi ay lalakasan mo ang volume ng sub para dinig na dinig mo.  And it's understandable -- after spending so much money, you'd really want to hear the d(am)n thing working. On a side note, another tendency pag bago pa lang sa HT, ay masyadong malakas ang volume ng surrounds. (Ganun din ako dati, e.  ;D ;D ;D)

The sub is supposed to be an extension of the other speakers.  When the sub takes over the lowest frequencies, dapat parang tuloy-tuloy ang transition from the higher frequencies reproduced by the other speakers.  Hence, the sub should not call attention to itself.  If it does, your system is not properly calibrated (or maybe, not properly matched).

So kung gagastos ka agad sa sub, hindi ka magiging masyadong happy, dahil nasa background lang naman nagtatrabaho ang sub.  Pero pag 9.5 ang binili mo, mas happy ka, kasi nasa foreground ang trabaho n'yan, so dinig na dinig mo ang improvement ng upgrade mo.  Kayang-kaya naman ng 9.5 ang low frequencies ---  Ang lakas ng bass niyan!

Pag bumili ka agad ng budget sub, pagdating ng araw na may 9.5 ka na, siguradong upgrade ka na naman.  Bakit? Kasi, sa lakas ng bass ng 9.5, mapapansin mong bitin ang bass ng low-priced sub mo. So, upgrade ka na naman.

Tignan mo ang advice ni sir jeckjeck:

... kung gusto mo talaga ng floorstander then buy a very good 10 to 12 inch sub like a Velodyne or a Klipsch or a Polk Audio...

Bakit niya sinasabi na kailangan maganda ang sub mo para sa floorstander?  Kasi pag floorstander, ang lakas ng bass.  At kung malakas na ang bass ng floorstander, baka maging useless na ang budget sub dahil natabunan na ng bass ng floorstander.

Ang advice ko rin, 9.5 ka na.  You can buy a better sub later. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jeckjeck on Mar 06, 2006 at 08:52 AM
hehehe... kulang ng comma... I meant get a 9.4 kung gusto ni spy45cal ng floorstanders and not bookshelves... then get a good sub...

for me kasi an HT is not complete without a sub
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Mar 06, 2006 at 10:57 AM
Ah, oo nga.  I forgot na floorstander din pala ang 9.4.  Hindi pa ako nakakita ng 9.4 in person - laging sa pictures lang.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: X-®an™ on Mar 06, 2006 at 06:47 PM
I'm plannig to buy a 9.5 this month... ;D  Ano kaya sa tingin nyo dapat ko unahin? Front speaker (Wharfe Diamond 9.5) or Sub (SW150)?
BTW i already have:

avr: hk235
center: Wharfe Diamond 9cm
front: mini compo speaker (Phillips 3000w PMPO)
surround: mini compo speaker ( Sony 75w max)

What do you think mga bro?

Maki-sabat na rin, unahin mo na yung 9.5 like they have already said.  Or... why don't you go for the 9.6?  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spy45cal on Mar 07, 2006 at 03:58 PM
US audio 512 or dynaquest dq12 lang ang napakinggan ko na sub10k aside from sw150.   

ok tnx... ;D audition ko nalan silang dalawa... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spy45cal on Mar 07, 2006 at 04:01 PM

Agree ako kay sir jetok --  Wharfe 9.5 na lang ang bilhin mo instead of a sub.

Ang sub kasi, paminsan-minsan lang gumagana nang malakas. 

At hindi mo dapat masyadong taasan ang volume level.  Pag bago ka pa lang, ang tendency kasi ay lalakasan mo ang volume ng sub para dinig na dinig mo.  And it's understandable -- after spending so much money, you'd really want to hear the d(am)n thing working. On a side note, another tendency pag bago pa lang sa HT, ay masyadong malakas ang volume ng surrounds. (Ganun din ako dati, e.  ;D ;D ;D)

The sub is supposed to be an extension of the other speakers.  When the sub takes over the lowest frequencies, dapat parang tuloy-tuloy ang transition from the higher frequencies reproduced by the other speakers.  Hence, the sub should not call attention to itself.  If it does, your system is not properly calibrated (or maybe, not properly matched).

So kung gagastos ka agad sa sub, hindi ka magiging masyadong happy, dahil nasa background lang naman nagtatrabaho ang sub.  Pero pag 9.5 ang binili mo, mas happy ka, kasi nasa foreground ang trabaho n'yan, so dinig na dinig mo ang improvement ng upgrade mo.  Kayang-kaya naman ng 9.5 ang low frequencies ---  Ang lakas ng bass niyan!

Pag bumili ka agad ng budget sub, pagdating ng araw na may 9.5 ka na, siguradong upgrade ka na naman.  Bakit? Kasi, sa lakas ng bass ng 9.5, mapapansin mong bitin ang bass ng low-priced sub mo. So, upgrade ka na naman.

Tignan mo ang advice ni sir jeckjeck:

Bakit niya sinasabi na kailangan maganda ang sub mo para sa floorstander?  Kasi pag floorstander, ang lakas ng bass.  At kung malakas na ang bass ng floorstander, baka maging useless na ang budget sub dahil natabunan na ng bass ng floorstander.

Ang advice ko rin, 9.5 ka na.  You can buy a better sub later. 

oki po... :)  Audition ko nalan yung 9.4 and 9.5 tsaka nalang yung sub.... pag ipunan ko nalan siguro yung sub to get a decent one.... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spy45cal on Mar 07, 2006 at 04:05 PM
hehehe... kulang ng comma... I meant get a 9.4 kung gusto ni spy45cal ng floorstanders and not bookshelves... then get a good sub...

for me kasi an HT is not complete without a sub

Thanks sa advice sir.... ;D  Audition ko nalan siguro pareho yung 9.4 and 9.5 .... ;D Bout sa sub, pagipunan ko nalan siguro yung 12" ng velodyne.... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spy45cal on Mar 07, 2006 at 04:08 PM
Maki-sabat na rin, unahin mo na yung 9.5 like they have already said.  Or... why don't you go for the 9.6?  ;)

Thanks sa reply bro.... ;D

Masyado na malaki yung 9.6 sa room ko.... 9.4 and 9.5 lang ang choices ko e... Anyway, thanks ulit sa reply.... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Mar 07, 2006 at 04:53 PM
9.4 and 9.5 lang ang choices ko e...

I suggest 9.5 ka na lang instead of a 9.4, kasi may 9.CM center ka na. 

Baka hindi bagay ang 9.4 sa 9.CM, kasi napansin ko sa brochure ng Wharfe, 9.CS lang ang recommended para sa 9.4.

Kung wala ka pang brochure, pls download and see page 13 thereof -
http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/images/ranges/brochure_3.pdf

9.CM is matched with 9.3, 9.5 or 9.6.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spy45cal on Mar 10, 2006 at 05:59 PM
I suggest 9.5 ka na lang instead of a 9.4, kasi may 9.CM center ka na. 

Baka hindi bagay ang 9.4 sa 9.CM, kasi napansin ko sa brochure ng Wharfe, 9.CS lang ang recommended para sa 9.4.

Kung wala ka pang brochure, pls download and see page 13 thereof -
http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/images/ranges/brochure_3.pdf

9.CM is matched with 9.3, 9.5 or 9.6.

Sorry for the late reply bro...
Sana makakuha ako ng actual brochure... ;D
Anyway, thanks bro, it helps me alot.... ;D
I'll go for 9.5 nalang, magagawan naman siguro ng adjustment sa avr kung sakaling maging boomy yung sound... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Mar 11, 2006 at 10:45 AM
Sorry for the late reply bro...
Sana makakuha ako ng actual brochure... ;D
Anyway, thanks bro, it helps me alot.... ;D
I'll go for 9.5 nalang, magagawan naman siguro ng adjustment sa avr kung sakaling maging boomy yung sound... ;D
sir u could drop by our store and get d brochure
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spy45cal on Mar 11, 2006 at 07:28 PM
sir u could drop by our store and get d brochure

Wow... ;D

Thanks alot.... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spy45cal on Mar 18, 2006 at 10:06 AM
Mga bro,

Im planning to buy 9.5 (maybe today) san ba may pinaka murang price?  12,500 (cash price) kasi sa mga napagtanungan ko before e... Baka may alam kayo para medyo makatipid ako ng konti.... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spy45cal on Mar 21, 2006 at 06:53 AM
Mga bro,

Got my diamond 9.5 na sa wakas... ;D
Pano ba mag break-in ng speakers?
Gaano ba kalakas or kahina yung volume kapag nag bbreak-in ng speaker?
Meron ba audio cd na magandang pang break-in ng speakers? If yes, what title and san po nakakabili nito?
Gaano ba katagal para ma break-in yung speaker?

Sensya na mga bro kung dami ko tanong and kung masyado ako makulit....  Gusto ko lang kasi masulit yung pagkakabili ko ng speaker and to take care of it properly....

TIA
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Mar 21, 2006 at 11:51 PM
Wowowee!  Congrats, bosing.  Nakakuha ka rin, finally.  Inaabangan ko kasi ang purchase mo, e.  ;D

Where & how much did you get them, sir?  Will you be using the metal spikes?

Sarap ng bagong gears.  Like being a kid with a new toy.

Isa lang ang advice ko para tumagal ang speakers -- Don't play too loud

Prolonged, excessive volumes with distortion/clipping cause overheated voice coils.  That means don't use them for parties and/or videoke sessions.  These are the situations where you're so busy with other things that you fail to notice distortion levels.

Huwag mong masyadong intindihin ang "break-in".  Konting konti lang naman ang difference, malalaspag pa ang receiver at player mo.  I used to have a pair of vintage speakers that I bought in 1978, used for about 21 years, then gave away to a friend in 1999.  Halos wala akong napansin na pagbabago in 21 years, and they still sounded like new when I gave them away in 1999.  Bakit tumagal ang buhay?  I always used them at moderate volume levels only.

Of course, all appliances benefit from break-in, but the improvement would not be as dramatic as some people claim.  Ang exception ay subwoofers.  A break-in period will improve a sub's performance significantly.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: moks on Mar 22, 2006 at 06:28 PM
ano mas match sa hk avr235 diamond 9.1 or monitor audio b2 for HT?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spy45cal on Mar 22, 2006 at 06:39 PM
Wowowee!  Congrats, bosing.  Nakakuha ka rin, finally.  Inaabangan ko kasi ang purchase mo, e.  ;D

Where & how much did you get them, sir?  Will you be using the metal spikes?

Sarap ng bagong gears.  Like being a kid with a new toy.

Isa lang ang advice ko para tumagal ang speakers -- Don't play too loud

Prolonged, excessive volumes with distortion/clipping cause overheated voice coils.  That means don't use them for parties and/or videoke sessions.  These are the situations where you're so busy with other things that you fail to notice distortion levels.

Huwag mong masyadong intindihin ang "break-in".  Konting konti lang naman ang difference, malalaspag pa ang receiver at player mo.  I used to have a pair of vintage speakers that I bought in 1978, used for about 21 years, then gave away to a friend in 1999.  Halos wala akong napansin na pagbabago in 21 years, and they still sounded like new when I gave them away in 1999.  Bakit tumagal ang buhay?  I always used them at moderate volume levels only.

Of course, all appliances benefit from break-in, but the improvement would not be as dramatic as some people claim.  Ang exception ay subwoofers.  A break-in period will improve a sub's performance significantly.

PM kita bro... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: atomicat10 on Mar 22, 2006 at 08:49 PM
Mga sirs, I had a diamond 9.cs which i had already disposed, ask ko lang kung ang internal wiring ng diamond 9 series parehas lang ng 8 series na Monster XP?

Another thing, do the tweeters no longer have the FERRO fluid stuff pagdating sa 9 series kasi parang mas trip ko yun eh?

Last, I know that the magnets are totally different between the series, what's the difference in performance, which is better? Pero I have to admit better ang binding post ng 9 series.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Ferl on Apr 03, 2006 at 12:36 PM
magtatanong lang po is wharfedale speakers are as good as it was before.is it worth a buck to buy wharfedale.beginner papo kc ako.pwede po bang makahingi ng advice.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: titan on Apr 03, 2006 at 01:33 PM
hi,

I'm a proud owner of diamond 9.1 paired with denon 1906. I also auditioned the D9.2 but due to budget constrain i settle for the D9.1 and quite happy with it.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jeckjeck on Apr 03, 2006 at 01:59 PM
nice sir.. we have the same set up... Denon 1906 and Diamond 9.1s sa front, Diamond 9CS center and Diamond 9SR for rear... ayos na ayos especially after ma-auto set up  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: atomicat10 on Apr 03, 2006 at 02:12 PM
ask ko lang kung ang internal wiring ng diamond 9 series parehas lang ng 8 series na Monster XP?

Another thing, do the tweeters no longer have the FERRO fluid stuff pagdating sa 9 series kasi parang mas trip ko yun eh?

Last, I know that the magnets are totally different between the series, what's the difference in performance, which is better?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: titan on Apr 04, 2006 at 05:28 PM
sir jeck,

mine is wh2 center/surrounds to complete the set-up, might replace the center with Dcs if the budget permits. Good thing nabenta ko na din yun Paradigm Titan ko.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jeckjeck on Apr 04, 2006 at 05:36 PM
nice... slowly but surely sir...

ako... planning to upgrade my fronts to 9.2s or 9.5s and move the 9.1 to the back. The DSRs will then be for surround back... kaso no  budget...

Baka antayin ko na rin yung next sa Diamond series ng Wharfedale... Diamond 10s?  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: titan on Apr 06, 2006 at 01:05 AM
oops kala ko denon 1906 unit ko 1706 pala :-[
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: titan on Apr 06, 2006 at 01:30 AM
kakahiya nato denon 1705 pala :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: BuLLeT on Apr 06, 2006 at 02:24 PM
Ano ba talaga KUya?? ;D.. ahihihihihi peace
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: atomicat10 on Apr 06, 2006 at 07:09 PM
That was really funny ;D next time all you have to do is to modify your orig. post.

Back to the topic. Can somebody please enlighten my querries bet. the diff. of diamond 8 and 9 series.Thanks.

Quote
ask ko lang kung ang internal wiring ng diamond 9 series parehas lang ng 8 series na Monster XP?

Another thing, do the tweeters no longer have the FERRO fluid stuff pagdating sa 9 series kasi parang mas trip ko yun eh?

Last, I know that the magnets are totally different between the series, what's the difference in performance, which is better?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: izukiultra on Apr 07, 2006 at 09:27 AM
ask ko lang kung ang internal wiring ng diamond 9 series parehas lang ng 8 series na Monster XP?

Another thing, do the tweeters no longer have the FERRO fluid stuff pagdating sa 9 series kasi parang mas trip ko yun eh?

Last, I know that the magnets are totally different between the series, what's the difference in performance, which is better?

Sa brochure nila they say they are using Nonster Cable for the wiring.

Why bother with FERRO fliuid on the Tweeter? If your are reffering to the 8 series, definitely 9 series have better drivers & enclosures. I had a many experienced with Diamond 8. Sound? Diamond 9 has 2 steps better thatn the latter. (This is just me)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: newbie pa rin on Apr 07, 2006 at 09:28 AM
Iyou have the budget would you still buy a Wharfs or would you buy another speaker?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Apr 07, 2006 at 10:14 AM
i would buy speakers that match well with my other equipment. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: atomicat10 on Apr 09, 2006 at 10:28 PM
Quote from izukiultra

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Sa brochure nila they say they are using Nonster Cable for the wiring.

Why bother with FERRO fliuid on the Tweeter? If your are reffering to the 8 series, definitely 9 series have better drivers & enclosures. I had a many experienced with Diamond 8. Sound? Diamond 9 has 2 steps better thatn the latter. (This is just me)

I checked out the diamond 9 brochure in PDF and by using the search tools I searched for the word Monster not Nonster(LOL) and there were ZERO results, meaning it was never mentioned which leads me to believe that the 9 series were NOT wired using these expensive cables. I had suspected this ever since no one tried to answer this question since I "trolled" this thread. Then, you replied.

I am not trying to contest which sounds better (very subjective topic), what I'm really after is to know how much these speakers cost by figuring out what they are made of.

Presently, Diamond 8.4 is about P8,000+ while its Diamond 9.5 equivalent is priced about P12,000+.

Diamond 8 is wired internally (FACT) BY MONSTER XP CABLE, DIAMOND 9- I'M NOT SURE

DIAMOND 8 TWEETER-FERRO FLUID COOLED, DIAMOND 9-NOT SURE

Why bother with Ferrofluid?

Here's Why:http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-ferrofluid.htm?referrer=adwords_campaign=ferrofluid_ad=018431&_search_kw=ferrofluid

Quote from Wikipedia: 

Applications
They are used in loudspeakers to sink heat between the voice coil and the magnet assembly, and to passively damp the movement of the cone. They reside in what would normally be the air gap around the voice coil, held in place by the speaker's magnet.

They also have friction-reducing capabilities as well. If applied to the surface of a strong enough magnet, such as one made of Neodymium, it can glide across smooth surfaces with minimal resitance.


Diamond 8-Rare Earth-Neodymium(Neo) magnet-The most powerful magnet available

LINK:http://neodymiummagnets.info/faq.php

(http://www.neodymiummagnets.info/images/neodymiumpalm.jpg)



Diamond 9 rare earth (Unspecified) magnet

diamond 8 front ported, diamond 9 rear ported

SAME KEVLAR DRIVERS FOR BOTH SERIES

SAME CABINET, DIFFERENT SHAPES

BETTER CROSSOVER FOR DIAMOND 9 AND MORE RIGID CHASSIS ACCORDING TO WHARFEDALE

PRETTIER BINDING POST FOR DIAMOND 9 SERIES both bi-wireable gold plated.

REVIEWS-WISE: DIAMOND 8 SERIES SLIGHTLY HAVE THE BETTER REVIEWS ALL OVER THE NET  (THANKS AGAIN TO ITS LOWER PRICE)

SA LOOKS YOU BE THE JUDGE:

Diamond 8

(http://www.prixdumatos.com/mon_install/2082-204.JPG)

(http://www.prixdumatos.com/mon_install/2082-210.JPG)

(http://www.prixdumatos.com/mon_install/2082-207.JPG)

(http://www.prixdumatos.com/mon_install/2082-215.JPG)


diamond 9

(http://www.audiocafe.co.kr/admin/use/img/1107-5.jpg)

(http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/3513/biamp1zj.jpg)



Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Apr 10, 2006 at 12:38 PM
The use of ferrofluids do not necessarily guarantee superior sonics to one that doesn't. Though admitedly, they help improve performance.  Even the type of ferrofluid's viscosity and magnetization varies from one tweeter application to another.  It all depends on the design.  Ferrofluids are generally used as coolant to allow the tweet to perform at high power levels without the problems associated when magnet saturation levels are reached. 

In many commercial designs, ferrofluids are also used in lieue of a spider to center the speaker's voice coils relative to the magnet.  Spiderless tweeters rely on the ferrofluid's magnetization properties to center the coil, reducing the cost of production, simplifying production and minimizing the usual distortion resulting from spiders.    They reduce the cost of production and impove performance. But it must be part of the design parameters that include the viscosity levels to dampen certain frequencies as well the tweeter construction to ensure that the coil bobbins are not ruined when in contact with the substance, among other things.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: newbie pa rin on Apr 10, 2006 at 01:07 PM
Bakit mas mababa price ng Wharfs compared to other brands like MA, Dali, Mission, Klipsch, MS and AE entry level speakers?
Does this got to do with performance?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: atomicat10 on Apr 10, 2006 at 01:10 PM
Sir AV, I've checked the Wharfedale Diamond 8 brochure and guess what-this series utilizes BOTH the SPIDER and the FERROFLUID COOLING!

LINK:http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/images/ranges/brochure_4.pdf
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: atomicat10 on Apr 10, 2006 at 01:20 PM
Quote
Bakit mas mababa price ng Wharfs compared to other brands like MA, Dali, Mission, Klipsch, MS and AE entry level speakers?
Does this got to do with performance?

Sir, kung ako lang ang masusunod lahat ng bagay mura lang ang price but in reality some materials/substances have more value in direct relation to its availability. What Wharfedale has done lately is to incorporate value-laden technology into their entry level speakers at "entry level prices", making one reviewer give the DIamond 8 Series the HI-FI Product of the Decade distinction where as the Diamond 9 the product of the year award by another.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Apr 10, 2006 at 01:40 PM
Bakit mas mababa price ng Wharfs compared to other brands like MA, Dali, Mission, Klipsch, MS and AE entry level speakers?
Does this got to do with performance?

I don't think so.  Pinoys are lucky, these wharfe models are inexpensive here.  Try researching the prices  on the net and you'll discover the Wharfe diamond can be more if not as expensive as some of the models you mentioned online and in Europe/Americas, inluding B&W entry levels.  I think this was discuessed earlier in this post or another.   
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: newbie pa rin on Apr 10, 2006 at 01:41 PM
Sir, kung ako lang ang masusunod lahat ng bagay mura lang ang price but in reality some materials/substances have more value in direct relation to its availability. What Wharfedale has done lately is to incorporate value-laden technology into their entry level speakers at "entry level prices", making one reviewer give the DIamond 8 Series the HI-FI Product of the Decade distinction where as the Diamond 9 the product of the year award by another.

I've been thinking of buying the Wharfs medyo kapos kasi to buy the one I really want.
Scary lang dahil baka mag-upgrade din agad ako sayang.
I haven't actually auditioned it so I can't directly compare it with the others na na try kong pakinggan.
Except for the fact na mahirap syang i-drive, aestetically maganda sya.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Apr 10, 2006 at 01:47 PM
Sir AV, I've checked the Wharfedale Diamond 8 brochure and guess what-this series utilizes BOTH the SPIDER and the FERROFLUID COOLING!

LINK:http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/images/ranges/brochure_4.pdf

If that's their design, then it's maybe more for cooling or damping purposes.  Ferrofluid can address a number of objectives.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: atomicat10 on Apr 10, 2006 at 01:58 PM
Sirs I have read numerous reviews of the Daimond 8 series from foreign online forums and a lot of them were surprised by these speakers' performance at such a low price about 1/5 of the B&W price. Talagang mura ang Wharfes kahit sa labas just don't do that peso to dollar (vice versa) conversion thing, kasi lalabas nga mahal.

Performance-wise, a friend (who happens to be a B&W owner) of the buyer of my 8.4 wasn't dissaponted when he heard them driven by a not-so-powerful Onkyo receiver while auditioning a Josh Groban cd played by a DVD player.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: @nk71 on Apr 13, 2006 at 12:07 PM
Hi Fellow wharfedale users...help naman Im looking for 9.CM (cherry) new or slightly used...
pa pm ng price...
thanks 09 27 722 76 22
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: EHMBU on Apr 14, 2006 at 05:04 PM
Hi guys,

Ask ko lang sa mga wharfe user.  Pag naka large ba ang setting ng speaker (9.5) baliwala na ba yung crossover ng speaker?  Sabi kasi nila may crossover din daw yung Diamond 9 series...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Apr 14, 2006 at 05:55 PM
musta na ung mga diamond 9.6 users?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Apr 14, 2006 at 06:02 PM
musta na ung mga diamond 9.6 users?

sold mine including the 9cm, 9.1, wh2, and sw150.  wiped out my ht setup.  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Apr 14, 2006 at 06:05 PM
same here, my "ht setup" is essentially my audio setup as well. contemplating using a pair of 9.6 for ht, the room is small anyway
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Apr 14, 2006 at 06:12 PM
same here, my "ht setup" is essentially my audio setup as well. contemplating using a pai of 9.6 for ht, the rom is small anyway


9.6 will be more than enough for ht.   best with high powered amp driving them.  i'm sure you will be happy in case you push thru with your plan.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Apr 14, 2006 at 06:19 PM
bagay na bagay sana yan 9.6  sa coming soon project ko na 100W ss monoblocks.  :P

kaso wala ako 9.6 eh...   ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Apr 14, 2006 at 06:26 PM
bagay na bagay sana yan 9.6  sa coming soon project ko na 100W ss monoblocks.  :P

kaso wala ako 9.6 eh...   ;D ;D ;D




doc,

bagay din yan sa 9.1 mo. busog na busog.  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Apr 14, 2006 at 06:36 PM
ang bagsik ng 9.1 pero palagay ko ams ok yun 200W version sa 9.6 para talagang busog!

salbahe yan mga speakers na yan.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: EHMBU on Apr 14, 2006 at 09:13 PM
Hi guys,

Ask ko lang sa mga wharfe user.  Pag naka large ba ang setting ng speaker (9.5) baliwala na ba yung crossover ng speaker?  Sabi kasi nila may crossover din daw yung Diamond 9 series...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sillyputty on Apr 15, 2006 at 01:33 AM
yung internal crossover ng speaker e para ma-split yung signal sa bawat drivers. tulad ng hf e sa tweeter, yung lf e sa midbass/bass drivers. hindi mababalewala yung crossover ng speaker.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: EHMBU on Apr 15, 2006 at 07:53 AM
yung internal crossover ng speaker e para ma-split yung signal sa bawat drivers. tulad ng hf e sa tweeter, yung lf e sa midbass/bass drivers. hindi mababalewala yung crossover ng speaker.

thanks sir,

ibig sabihin ba kahit large or small ang setting ng speaker masusunod pa rin ang xover ng reciever and speaker?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: macx on Apr 15, 2006 at 10:45 AM
how much are the center speakers goin for nowadays?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Toquero on Apr 15, 2006 at 07:42 PM
thanks sir,

ibig sabihin ba kahit large or small ang setting ng speaker masusunod pa rin ang xover ng reciever and speaker?

Let's put it this way, If the 9.5 based on specs claims that it can deliver 30Hz - 24Khz  audio frequency and setting your front speaker to "large" from your reciever it would mean that the reciever would allow sound below the frequency set for the crossover Frequency setting to both L/R speakers (driving it in full range). On the other hand setting it to "small" would mean that sound above crossover frequency (ex. 80 hz) is sent to both L/R speakers and sound below the crossover frequency setting of your reciever (ex. 80Hz) is sent to the subwoofer.

So from the above speaker specs. (30Hz -24khz) sa "large" setting matatanggap lahat ng speakers mo yung buong sound signals  but within the frequency range of your FL/FR . Beyond that (29Hz - below and 25Khz up) di na ninya kayang iproduce.Same theory applies sa Center and surround speakers mo.

And usually sa reciever manual indicated niya yung mga examples ng "large"(floorstander) at "small"(sattelite and bookshelf) speaker setup. 

And yung settings mo sa crossover frequency  cut off mag eeffect lang yan kung naka "small" yung setting mo alinman sa mga speakers mo (FL/FR/C/SL/SR). So yung crossover ng speakers mo regardless kung large or small ang settings sa reciever, gumagana yan as frequency separators sa drivers mo (tweets and midrange/woofer).

Note: May ibang recievers na separate yung settings niya sa LFE signals (sub only at Main+sub). And nageefect lang itong settings na ito kung naka "large" yung FL/FR i.e. main speakers mo.

Hope this helps ;)
Just my 2 cents... :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: EHMBU on Apr 16, 2006 at 07:15 AM
thanks sa reply sir...

Now i understand,,,,
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: moks on Apr 17, 2006 at 10:16 PM
anong mas ok wharfs or monitor audio bronze series kung hk avr235 yung amp mo? pang ht and music yung application?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: moks on Apr 18, 2006 at 12:10 PM
balita ko ngo ngo daw yung center speaker ng wharfedale compared sa monitor audio...any comments?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Apr 18, 2006 at 03:09 PM
No better way to find out than to audition it yourself and compare. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: newbie pa rin on Apr 18, 2006 at 03:26 PM
anong mas ok wharfs or monitor audio bronze series kung hk avr235 yung amp mo? pang ht and music yung application?

If budget permits i'll go for an MA.
Mas gusto ko ang tunog nya.
OK din ang Dali try to audition it.

But im contemplating on buying a wharfs kapos kasi budget ko.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: keema on Apr 18, 2006 at 04:32 PM
sir, may pagkakaiba ba ang diamond 8.4 sa 9.5? pagdating sa tunog...salamat...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spy45cal on Apr 19, 2006 at 09:35 PM
If budget permits i'll go for an MA.
Mas gusto ko ang tunog nya.
OK din ang Dali try to audition it.

But im contemplating on buying a wharfs kapos kasi budget ko.

If I where you, ipon nalang muna ko then ill buy my preferred speaker para di agad ma SARS... :)  IMHO... :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ronjet on Apr 20, 2006 at 12:11 PM
sir newbie, take the advice of sir spy45cal... ;D that way, less gastos ka din in terms of upgrade sa speakers..kasi yung MA and Dali talaga ang gusto mo. :) in the end, baka maDALI ka nang gastos ;D

peace. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: crenshaw on Apr 26, 2006 at 12:06 PM
need help!

kaya na ba i drive ng HK 135 ang DIamond 9.5, CM, tsaka 9.1 na set-up? anyone with the same setup? feedback naman oh... salamat!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Apr 26, 2006 at 12:40 PM
If budget permits i'll go for an MA.
Mas gusto ko ang tunog nya.
OK din ang Dali try to audition it.

But im contemplating on buying a wharfs kapos kasi budget ko.

If you've done some comparisons and you honestly prefer the sound of one brand over another, then save up for it.  It won't serve you much to get something you don't like just because it fits your budget. 

Also don't let price tags influence your preference.  It's easy to fall into the trap that the more expensive brand A is the better sounding.  There are reasons behind the price tag other than sonic quality.  Including local conditions that influence those pricing.   Brand A may be more expensive here than brand B but it may surprise you that on the net or in other countries, the opposite condition might exist.  Pinoys are actually blessed that wharfedale diamonds are relatively inexpensive here compared to their prices in Europe or on the net in relation to other brands in the same performance category.   
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spy45cal on May 02, 2006 at 04:35 PM
Help naman guys...

Ano ba ang correct position or clearance ng 9DFS pag kinabit sa rear wall?  Rear wall lang kasi option ko e... 5.1 lang po yung set up...

Malaki ba ang difference ng sound quality and performance between WH2 sa 9DFS?

(http://img324.imageshack.us/img324/4756/042720060010gw.jpg)

TIA
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: @nk71 on May 02, 2006 at 08:04 PM
Help naman guys...

Ano ba ang correct position or clearance ng 9DFS pag kinabit sa rear wall?

Malaki ba ang difference ng sound quality and performance between WH2 sa 9DFS?

(http://img324.imageshack.us/img324/4756/042720060010gw.jpg)

TIA

depends on ur set-up 5.1 ba or 7.1 atleast 6ft above d ground...position it slightly behind listening position if 7.1 or directly behind listening position sa 5.1  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spy45cal on May 03, 2006 at 03:47 PM
sir @nk71  5.1 lang po yung setup ko and rear wall lang ang pwede ko kabitan ng 9DFS... ???  Pwede ba 1.5 meters lang ang distance between two speakers?  Pwede ba 5feet from the floor yun taas ng speaker or 2feet above ear level ang taas?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Jairus on May 03, 2006 at 04:15 PM
Here's how I set-up my DFS (Diamond 8 nga lang).  Height is approximately 30 inches (from listener's ear to the DFS's tweeters). Distance between the two DFS is approximately 2.5 meters.  For me, this set-up provides excellent surround effects and is even good for 5.1 music  ;)

(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0QwDrApQTj5GyPeO92Se6rdrdEPYbPZakkOOnv!vZpx2dQccoQ1Fkd1cxk7ygUmv3qXk29e5Lc79FKBUZCgJNgIICwkjUMOGRfDD2KrqkqDM/Rears2.jpg?dc=4675530232752611473)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on May 03, 2006 at 06:27 PM
need help!

kaya na ba i drive ng HK 135 ang DIamond 9.5, CM, tsaka 9.1 na set-up? anyone with the same setup? feedback naman oh... salamat!


not sure kung kaya but after hearing Wharfes 9.x + HK, IMHO parang ngongo from the center channel mahirap intindihan ang dialogue.  not the case though with a Yamaha receiver.   
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spy45cal on May 03, 2006 at 10:23 PM
Here's how I set-up my DFS (Diamond 8 nga lang).  Height is approximately 30 inches (from listener's ear to the DFS's tweeters). Distance between the two DFS is approximately 2.5 meters.  For me, this set-up provides excellent surround effects and is even good for 5.1 music  ;)

(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0QwDrApQTj5GyPeO92Se6rdrdEPYbPZakkOOnv!vZpx2dQccoQ1Fkd1cxk7ygUmv3qXk29e5Lc79FKBUZCgJNgIICwkjUMOGRfDD2KrqkqDM/Rears2.jpg?dc=4675530232752611473)

thanks sir... but my problem kasi masyadong masikip sa left surround speaker, irregular kasi yung room e..



 36inches   R DFS   2meters        L DFS    5inches
  <--->                     <---->                        <---->


(http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/9423/042720060014uw.jpg)    
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ricky on May 04, 2006 at 11:59 AM
Here's how I set-up my DFS (Diamond 8 nga lang).  Height is approximately 30 inches (from listener's ear to the DFS's tweeters). Distance between the two DFS is approximately 2.5 meters.  For me, this set-up provides excellent surround effects and is even good for 5.1 music  ;)

(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0QwDrApQTj5GyPeO92Se6rdrdEPYbPZakkOOnv!vZpx2dQccoQ1Fkd1cxk7ygUmv3qXk29e5Lc79FKBUZCgJNgIICwkjUMOGRfDD2KrqkqDM/Rears2.jpg?dc=4675530232752611473)

bro very nice set-up,parang ang lamig lamig ng dating ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: crenshaw on May 08, 2006 at 12:06 PM
not sure kung kaya but after hearing Wharfes 9.x + HK, IMHO parang ngongo from the center channel mahirap intindihan ang dialogue.  not the case though with a Yamaha receiver.   

how about yamy 657? pwede na ba nya drive a 9.5, 9cm, 9dfs/9.1 setup?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on May 09, 2006 at 02:35 AM
how about yamy 657? pwede na ba nya drive a 9.5, 9cm, 9dfs/9.1 setup?

you're probably better off powerwise with the HK135.  alam ko mas malakas HK.  di ko lang type.  kung 9.1, 9cm, 9dfs/wh2 combo kaya ng 657 but with the 9.5 I'm not so sure.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: atomicat10 on May 09, 2006 at 05:35 PM
Si Sir Barrister ask nyo sa ganitong setup(9.5 and 657)

 Positive ang reviews nya. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spy45cal on May 21, 2006 at 09:59 AM
Finally I made up my mind...  I just bought yesterday my 9DFDS @ Spectra for 4,500...  Im just wondering how to break in my surround, sa pagkakaalam ko kasi bihira lang tumunog ang surround e (correct me if im wrong)...

TIA
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: atomicat10 on May 21, 2006 at 05:51 PM
If this can be considered a loudspeaker (hence the need of a break-in) I suggest you use the receiver's tuner (save on electricity) and use all channel stereo for listening.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spy45cal on May 22, 2006 at 10:30 AM
If this can be considered a loudspeaker (hence the need of a break-in) I suggest you use the receiver's tuner (save on electricity) and use all channel stereo for listening.

Thanks bro...  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: boglers on Jun 07, 2006 at 03:36 PM
Hi Guys,

Im plaaning to save some money and start a new HT set-up. My first option is an  HK AVR and Wharfedale Diamond 8 speakers combo. The other one is an Onkyo-Bose AM5 combo. Which one is better? I know for sure na mas mura ang second option ko, but i want to hear comments and recommendations also from the expert. Bka with few extra bucks would mean a big difference in quality :)

As for Wharfedale Diamond 8 set-up, what would you recommend for Front, Rear and Center speakers? Sorry hindi kse ako familair sa Wharfedale :) If you may, can you also provide me an estimate how much will each component cost.

TIA
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: alz on Jun 11, 2006 at 01:42 PM
Hello wharfedale users!
I'm looking for a pair of 9.1s (2nd hand), maybe you can help find one.
Thanks!
09228228595
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Pawski on Jun 14, 2006 at 05:19 PM
Guys

Just new here.  I have been looking for a good and reasonable HT set-up.

I am considering WHARFEDALE Yamaha RXV357  package for 35k  >> Okey na ba? Matched ba lahat?

DIAMOND 9.1
DIAMOND CS
DIAMOND 9 DFS sw150
YAMAHARXV357

Baka may suggestion pa kayo.

TNX in advance
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Jairus on Jun 15, 2006 at 09:25 AM
Guys

Just new here.  I have been looking for a good and reasonable HT set-up.

I am considering WHARFEDALE Yamaha RXV357  package for 35k  >> Okey na ba? Matched ba lahat?

DIAMOND 9.1
DIAMOND CS
DIAMOND 9 DFS sw150
YAMAHARXV357

Baka may suggestion pa kayo.

TNX in advance

Consider getting a more powerful AVR.  Heard the 357 in  3X3m room, the volume was cranked up to -5db to have decent loudness level.  Try scouting the buy & sell section for second hand entry level HKs.  Just my 1 cent.  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Pawski on Jun 15, 2006 at 04:12 PM

Thanks for the comment.  Any suggested AVR model that would match the ff.

DIAMOND 9.1
DIAMOND CS
DIAMOND 9 DFS sw150

thanks and regards
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jerq on Jun 15, 2006 at 04:49 PM
Thanks for the comment.  Any suggested AVR model that would match the ff.

DIAMOND 9.1
DIAMOND CS
DIAMOND 9 DFS sw150

thanks and regards

try to audition yamaha rx-v657.   ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: atomicat10 on Jun 15, 2006 at 06:29 PM
wait for the yamaha rx-v659. It will be out soon, I think.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on Jun 15, 2006 at 07:11 PM
bilis lumabas mga new models parang celfone.  :o
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Pawski on Jun 17, 2006 at 09:09 AM
try to audition yamaha rx-v657.   

Do you have an idea of the price?

Marami na ba naka 6.1 or 5.1 parin ang recommend niyo?

Dami na kasi 6.1 na package pero not sure ako kung practical pa ba.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spy45cal on Jun 18, 2006 at 12:47 PM
For me ill go for 6.1 or 7.1 na para atleast iwas sars... hehehe...

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Dracula on Jun 22, 2006 at 03:31 PM
sonny tuazon of the home theater is giving a good deal on diamond 9s and a denon receiver....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Pawski on Jun 23, 2006 at 09:12 AM
Saan po yoong Sonny Tuazon of Home theater located?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jerq on Jun 23, 2006 at 09:32 AM
try to audition yamaha rx-v657.   

Do you have an idea of the price?

Marami na ba naka 6.1 or 5.1 parin ang recommend niyo?

Dami na kasi 6.1 na package pero not sure ako kung practical pa ba.




last time i checked,  yamaha rx-v657 is around 23k.  try to go to The Home Theater.  Sonny Tuazon might give you a good deal.  its in Tordesillas cor. Bautista Salcedo vill. makati. try calling 812-5235.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Pawski on Jun 24, 2006 at 07:13 PM

Guys i have 2 choices.  Need help to ano ang mas BEST BUY sa dalawa.

choise no 1 46k ang price plus free HK dvd player - SCS 188 na JBL 6.1

http://www.rb.com.pl/apps/katalog/tekst.jsp?place=jbl_b3&news_id=428

Choce no 2  35k  (mag upgade nalang ako high end na receiver) more or less 45k budget.
DIAMOND 9.1
DIAMOND CS
DIAMOND 9 DFS sw150
YAMAHARXV357 >> for upgrade

appreciate all your feedbacks!

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jun 24, 2006 at 07:24 PM
I suggest getting the center and surrounds later so you can get a better receiver.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Jakob on Jun 25, 2006 at 09:18 PM
quick question:

who carries wharfedale speakers locally?

sorry tamad mag browse, just need the info quickly.

ty,

 8)

who gives the biggest discounts?  ;D ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Jairus on Jun 26, 2006 at 09:10 AM
quick question:

who carries wharfedale speakers locally?

sorry tamad mag browse, just need the info quickly.

ty,

 8)

who gives the biggest discounts?  ;D ;)

Spectra, Ambassador.  Amabassador usually gives the lowest price.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: b0ss_sa_b0ss on Jun 27, 2006 at 09:15 AM
question lang po about speaker.

a bit OT.

i have 2 small cube satellite speakers rated 4ohms, can i used this as surround speakers?
my front and center are wharfedales' rated 6ohms. my reciever HK235.

though HK claims that it can drive speakers rated 4ohms, hindi kaya ako magkaron ng problem.

front:  diamond 9.5 (150 watts, 6ohms)
center: 9cm (150wats, 6ohms)

for surround: small satelite (? watts, 4ohms) <--ok lang kaya gawin surround to?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jun 28, 2006 at 09:42 AM
Ok lang yan basta within reason ka magpatugtog.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: b0ss_sa_b0ss on Jun 29, 2006 at 12:49 PM
sure kaya bro na okay lang to.??? one time kasi biglang nagprotect yung AVR ko. something to do kaya with these 4ohms small cube speaker or sa heat.? medyo uminit na rin kasi yung avr.

anymore idea po...

speaker with different ohms (front 6ohms, center 6ohms, surrounds 4ohms) ok lang ba pagsamahin?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jun 29, 2006 at 12:55 PM
Lower impedances will require more current. More current means the avr will heat up faster and will shut down if it gets too hot. Are all speakers set to LARGE? If you're not using a sub, try setting all channels to SMALL except the fronts.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Jun 29, 2006 at 02:55 PM
Guys i have 2 choices.  Need help to ano ang mas BEST BUY sa dalawa.

choise no 1 46k ang price plus free HK dvd player - SCS 188 na JBL 6.1

http://www.rb.com.pl/apps/katalog/tekst.jsp?place=jbl_b3&news_id=428

Choce no 2  35k  (mag upgade nalang ako high end na receiver) more or less 45k budget.
DIAMOND 9.1
DIAMOND CS
DIAMOND 9 DFS sw150
YAMAHARXV357 >> for upgrade

appreciate all your feedbacks!



I would go for choice number 1 only if its my secondary or bedroom system.

If not, go for choice 1, mas magastos ang upgrade (dumaan na ako dyan...many times) so get at least a HK235 or Yamaha 657. The more power you give your speakers the better it would sound.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Jun 30, 2006 at 11:53 AM
sure kaya bro na okay lang to.??? one time kasi biglang nagprotect yung AVR ko. something to do kaya with these 4ohms small cube speaker or sa heat.? medyo uminit na rin kasi yung avr.

anymore idea po...

speaker with different ohms (front 6ohms, center 6ohms, surrounds 4ohms) ok lang ba pagsamahin?


Not ideal.  But if your amp can handle low impedances, puede rin.   As Bumblebee said, lower impedance will extract higher urrent so your rear channel amps could heat up more.  And possibly deprive the fronts of needed current as the rear will be hugging most of them (current will always go the route of least resistance.)  If your AVR goes into protection mode (this is actually a common  occurence with HK and other recievers with current limiting protection circuits), it means it's detecting some adverse conditions at the amp output that merit being shut down.  I really must wonder if HK is really the High Current it is often advertised to be.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: b0ss_sa_b0ss on Jun 30, 2006 at 02:24 PM
actually two speaker sya with 4ohms per speaker, nakaseries yung connection. Magiging 8ohms ba to?
pag nakaparallel naman po ano magiging result ng two 4ohms?  thanks po
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jun 30, 2006 at 02:28 PM
You mean you have 2 speakers for left surround and 2 speakers for right surround?

2 4-ohmers in parallel = 2 ohms
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 08, 2006 at 03:40 AM
hi guys,

just wanna ask if there are folks out there who had experience using 9.5 for audio? comments would be very helpful.

thanks!

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: seph1018 on Jul 10, 2006 at 03:50 PM
Hey guys!

I just bought my friend's 9.5s and I have to say that I'm more than satisfied with it. But, I know I haven't tapped the full potential of what these floorstanders can do. Wanted to bi-wire them hopefully but I don't know how to...can someone post a pic of how they did theirs? And does bi-wiring really improve the sound? Any other suggestions on how to fully maximize them is appreciated...TIA. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Jul 10, 2006 at 04:25 PM
Just take out the gold-plated brass jumpers between the two sets of L and R speaker terminals markeded Low and High.  Run two sets of L and R speaker cables to your amp. One to the speaker terminal marked LOW and the other to the terminal marked HIGH.   The benefits of bi-wiring are debatable.  But there's no harm doing.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dana on Jul 11, 2006 at 11:00 AM
Mga Sirs,

Ano po latest best pricings ng 9.1 & 9.2 at colors available?
San po malapit sa QC meron nito?

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mheloy on Jul 11, 2006 at 11:46 AM
I'm saving up for 9DFS para maging 7.1 na setup ko... may bagong model na ba na lalabas ang Wharfedale?
baka kasi mag stop na ng supply ng 9 series... yung 5.1 ko pa naman lahat 9 series...

Thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: seph1018 on Jul 11, 2006 at 07:07 PM
Just take out the gold-plated brass jumpers between the two sets of L and R speaker terminals markeded Low and High.  Run two sets of L and R speaker cables to your amp. One to the speaker terminal marked LOW and the other to the terminal marked HIGH. The benefits of bi-wiring are debatable. But there's no harm doing.

Thanks sir av_phile. ;D I hope someone can show a pic, especially of the wires going to the amp.

TIA ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: saltuhin on Jul 12, 2006 at 09:11 PM
hi guys,

just wanna ask if there are folks out there who had experience using 9.5 for audio? comments would be very helpful.

thanks!


hi sir jojo,

Nag AB na ako ng 9.5 saka MA B4 connected to a NAD C352 integrated amp. Both exhibited good imaging, having floated the image right between the two speakers. In terms of bass, mas maganda ang bottom end ng wharfedale in the sense na mas malalim yung bass niya. The B4 seemed to have rolled off in some much higher frequency. But in terms of detail, vocals, sibilance, midrange doon mas angat yung B4. I have kept the tone defeat switch to on sa MA pero hindi mo pwede gawin yun sa 9.5, dapat nasa mga 2 o'clock position ang treble dial mo to achieve a better sound. In terms of price/performance ratio maganda na ito, but kung sky's the limit ka in terms of available cash, wanting pa siguro ang wharfe. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 12, 2006 at 09:26 PM
saltuhin,

thanks for the review. just want to ask, are you saying that with the wharfs you have to "increase" the treble?

if yes,  then that's good (for me).  8) that would make me a happy person because my 9.1 behaves like that - tame highs, which my ears are fond of.

can't wait to dispose off all my unused audio gears.  :'(

cheers,
JojoD

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sanction214 on Jul 12, 2006 at 09:37 PM
Not ideal.  But if your amp can handle low impedances, puede rin.   As Bumblebee said, lower impedance will extract higher urrent so your rear channel amps could heat up more.  And possibly deprive the fronts of needed current as the rear will be hugging most of them (current will always go the route of least resistance.)  If your AVR goes into protection mode (this is actually a common  occurence with HK and other recievers with current limiting protection circuits), it means it's detecting some adverse conditions at the amp output that merit being shut down.  I really must wonder if HK is really the High Current it is often advertised to be.

good thing i've read about this topic..kinda related sa gusto kong ipaabot sa mga may alam...i was planning to have a denon 1905 or 1705 to drive my existing JBL scs surrounds rated at 8 ohms and center at 8 ohms din...then (planned) a 9.5 which is 6 ohms...powered sub is at 8ohms din...pwede po ba pagsamahin to? thanks... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 12, 2006 at 09:39 PM
pwede po.

 :)

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Jul 13, 2006 at 07:58 AM
ironically i just found out for myself that a diamond 9.1 worked best with a beefy solid state amp, an aragon 4004 using an aragon 18k preamp. I would think that a 9.5 would sound great too :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: saltuhin on Jul 13, 2006 at 05:26 PM
saltuhin,

thanks for the review. just want to ask, are you saying that with the wharfs you have to "increase" the treble?

if yes, then that's good (for me). 8) that would make me a happy person because my 9.1 behaves like that - tame highs, which my ears are fond of.

can't wait to dispose off all my unused audio gears. :'(

cheers,
JojoD




JojoD,

That's right sir, you have to increase the treble in my opinion.

Happy to be of service. Good Day! 

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ndy on Jul 20, 2006 at 03:37 PM
bought a 9.5 yesterday kinabit ko sya sa kenwood  krf 5560d ang laki ng pagkakaiba sa tunog compared dun sa mga dating speaker at di ko pa ginagamit subs ko ngayon ok na yung bass nya sa akin. swak talaga sa budget ko :)

di ko palang mailakas kasi break in ko muna daw simula na yata to ng pagabsent ko sa office ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 20, 2006 at 08:30 PM

JojoD,

That's right sir, you have to increase the treble in my opinion.

Happy to be of service. Good Day! 



That's my kind of speaker.  ;)

Thanks man!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 20, 2006 at 08:32 PM
bought a 9.5 yesterday kinabit ko sya sa kenwood  krf 5560d ang laki ng pagkakaiba sa tunog compared dun sa mga dating speaker at di ko pa ginagamit subs ko ngayon ok na yung bass nya sa akin. swak talaga sa budget ko :)

di ko palang mailakas kasi break in ko muna daw simula na yata to ng pagabsent ko sa office ;D

Congrats! Buti ka pa meron na.  :'(

 ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: qguy on Jul 21, 2006 at 06:14 AM
Whats the difference between the Pacific Evolution series and the Diamond 9 series
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ndy on Jul 21, 2006 at 08:53 AM
Whats the difference between the Pacific Evolution series and the Diamond 9 series
nagask ako ng pacific evo sa spectra wala na daw yung range na yun. kaya po if you plan to buy wait for the evoII.

yung pagkakaiba nya sa 9.5 di ko po alam ;D basta alam ko mas mahal sya ng kaunti.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Jul 21, 2006 at 01:34 PM
The Pacific Evo series was a notch higher than the diamonds 8 series in the past.  But I think the diamond 9 inherited some design philosphies from the pacific series like the curved baffle to reduce internal standing waves. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Dracula on Jul 22, 2006 at 07:44 PM
What stores can accomodate auditions of diamond 9 speakers?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: EHMBU on Jul 23, 2006 at 11:28 AM
What stores can accomodate auditions of diamond 9 speakers?

Sa spectra(Park Square 1) po...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iamlet on Jul 24, 2006 at 01:01 PM
guys,

can the HK235 provide enough power to fully appreciate the wharfes 9.6?

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Jul 24, 2006 at 01:29 PM
While the 9.6 is specified for 40-200watts, I don't see any problem.  The HK is conservatively rated at around 50watts RMS into 8 ohms at full bandwidth, with all channels driven.  The diamond is 6 ohms, so expect the HK to deliver more current and is said to be equivalent to some receivers rated at 100watts RMS into 6 ohms at 1khz with only 2 channels driven.   ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iamlet on Jul 24, 2006 at 01:58 PM
thanks av_phile1 for the immediate reply.

let's say cost-effectiveness being an issue, do i need a HK335 to fully appreciate a 9.6?

would it really make a difference?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Jul 24, 2006 at 02:16 PM
thanks av_phile1 for the immediate reply.

let's say cost-effectiveness being an issue, do i need a HK335 to fully appreciate a 9.6?

would it really make a difference?


I don't think so, the 335 is only 5 watts more powerful than the 225, if not mistaken.  You need twice the power rating to make a perceptible 3db difference.  But ofcourse, the more power, the better the wharfe will sing.  But 5 watts would hardly make that much difference. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Jul 24, 2006 at 03:06 PM
I don't think so, the 335 is only 5 watts more powerful than the 225, if not mistaken.  You need twice the power rating to make a perceptible 3db difference.  But ofcourse, the more power, the better the wharfe will sing.  But 5 watts would hardly make that much difference. 

While it is true that 335's power is only 5 w difference from the 235. The 335 uses a different, higher quality amp. Just like Yamaha uses a different amp for the RX650 (equivalent of HK230/5) and the THX certified 1500 (equiv of 330/5?). I was told that the 335/330 series & up sounds warmer than its lower end series.

can the HK235 provide enough power to fully appreciate the wharfes 9.6?

Fully appreciate? Try the HK 630/635. It wont dissapoint.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 24, 2006 at 03:13 PM
Pacific Evo series are more refined and controlled than Diamond 9 series IMHO..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Jul 24, 2006 at 04:19 PM
While it is true that 335's power is only 5 w difference from the 235. The 335 uses a different, higher quality amp. Just like Yamaha uses a different amp for the RX650 (equivalent of HK230/5) and the THX certified 1500 (equiv of 330/5?). I was told that the 335/330 series & up sounds warmer than its lower end series.


If you were to put the  tech specs of the 235 and the 335 as pubished on the net side by side, it's interesting to note that the only difference between them is the 5 watts RMS power.   Maybe a circuit diagram of the two would be more revealing, whether one  uses FET front ends, symmetric mirror power amp configuration, servo-assisted negative feedback, coil-less output stage, etc.   But even if there's substantial circuit difference, the frequency reponse, slew rates, interchannel separation, signal-to-noise ratios, Transient Intermodulation Distortion, Total Harmonic Distortions, Instantaneous current ability, input sensitivities and not surprisingly even the power consumption figures are IDENTICAL - all pointing to the same sonic quality.  Curious if they had some misprints somewhere. Or I may have missed one.    ;D

Ofcourse the standard retort to the above is to say, you can't judge an amp by its published specs.  True.  I don't.   But it would nice if the perceived sound difference is backed somehow by a difference in even just one area of measurable specification, however small.  But no matter, if you heard differences, good for HK.  At least it justifies HK coming out with a model that is not just 5 watts higher than another lower model.   ;D     
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iamlet on Jul 25, 2006 at 12:28 AM
whew.. thanks   ;)

so much to learn, so little time..

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Jul 25, 2006 at 12:05 PM
let's say cost-effectiveness being an issue, do i need a HK335 to fully appreciate a 9.6?

would it really make a difference?


It would IMO.

Audition them with different receivers so you would hear the difference.

And SARS is a deadly disease. "should've, would've, could've" is a very nasty thought. And selling your receiver to upgrade to a higher model is not very "cost effective".     :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ndy on Jul 25, 2006 at 12:43 PM
bought  a 9cm yesterday nung nakabit ko na sya pinatulog ko muna sya ng nakaon ang receiver ko naka tune in ako sa fm na walang broadcast nung ginising ko na sya kanina para maexercise and wow ang laki ng tunog at ang laki ng linaw sa dati kong center. pumantay na tunog ng center sa 9.5.

salamat pdvd :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iamlet on Jul 25, 2006 at 01:12 PM
It would IMO.

Audition them with different receivers so you would hear the difference.

And SARS is a deadly disease. "should've, would've, could've" is a very nasty thought. And selling your receiver to upgrade to a higher model is not very "cost effective".     :)

Matz,
thats what im afraid of =(

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lynds on Jul 25, 2006 at 11:34 PM
Just wanna ask what diamond 9 series model would work best with Denon 1905.  Which is better bookshelf or floor standing?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Jul 26, 2006 at 12:33 PM
Just wanna ask what diamond 9 series model would work best with Denon 1905.  Which is better bookshelf or floor standing?

IMO and IME (In My actual Experience), lower model AVRs,--->Bookshelf speakers.
Higher powered/model AVRs, --->floorstanders.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: skylynx888 on Jul 27, 2006 at 03:12 PM
master matz, for 9.6,which avr would you prefer, hk335 or yammy659? btw, does 659 have pre outs? thanks bro....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Jul 27, 2006 at 03:33 PM
master matz, for 9.6,which avr would you prefer, hk335 or yammy659? btw, does 659 have pre outs? thanks bro....

Lol, master?  :D

For 9.6, of course use HK335/ Yamaha 1600 or better if higher. I used to have Yamaha 650, medyo manipis yung tunog. I needed to use subs to compensate for the lacking LF in music. Pero sa HK 630, kahit no subs pa, 2 channel lang, ganda ng tunog for floorstanders.

The more power you give your floorstanders, the better they will sound. Like I always say, floorstanders is NOT equal to bookshelf plus stands (COST-wise). You need to factor in the cost of the higher power/model amp needed to power your floorstanders to sound their best.

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659 has preouts, an alternative is to use a power amp.

Stereo (2 channel) power amps are recommended if you are into music. 5 channel amps are not as good for music reproduction. You will notice that the prices of the 2 are not that far from each other. Iba quality ng 2 channel amp sa 5.

As what my friend ricky discovered at the Rotel threads internaionally, Most Rotel users have a processor, then a 2 channel amp for their fronts, then a 5 channel amp for the center and 4 surrounds, instead of a 6 or 7 channel amp.

In the 659's case, a stereo power amp is gud enough if you are not into multi channel music.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Jul 27, 2006 at 03:42 PM
Ever wonder guys why some power amps are even HEAVIER than your receivers? The quality put into power amps are different. I remember someone mentioning that receivers are actually processors with thrown in tuner and amp for free.

In my case:
Yamaha 650: 26 lbs (90wpc daw ::))
Kenwood THX (130w) stereo amp: over 30 lbs.

Harman HK630: 46 lbs (75wpc)
Rotel 5 channel (120w) THX amp: heavier than the HK630 w/ 7 amps and processor.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ricky on Jul 27, 2006 at 03:49 PM
sorry ot rotel 1090 2cha amp is at 90lbs
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Jul 27, 2006 at 03:59 PM

Stereo (2 channel) power amps are recommended if you are into music. 5 channel amps are not as good for music reproduction. You will notice that the prices of the 2 are not that far from each other. Iba quality ng 2 channel amp sa 5.

As what my friend ricky discovered at the Rotel threads internaionally, Most Rotel users have a processor, then a 2 channel amp for their fronts, then a 5 channel amp for the center and 4 surrounds, instead of a 6 or 7 channel amp.


While I myself use a 2-channel Acurus power amp for my fronts, and a 3-channel Acurus amp for the center and rears mated to Rotel processors,  I can't generalize about 2 ch being better than multi-ch amps.  Receivers maybe, but not among separates.  I am sure there are exceptions.  But as a general rule, most, like the Parasounds, Adcoms, have multichannel models with very generous power supplies that are more than adequate to sevice all channels.  And above a certain price point, you can expect them to behave similarly.  You can check some Aragon 8000 series and the Bryston AMP 5 to find this out and even some Krell and older Acurus 5 channel models.  Channel amp configuraiton in a multichannel gear is simply a matter of adding channels - they're almost always using identical monoblocks in the same box.  This is more an offshoot and a demand from multichannel sound from SACD and DVD-A, it is of paramount interest among audiophiles that the power amps are identical.   You can ofcourse opt to use multiple stereo power amps or even mono amps.  But most 5 channel amps out there have really generous power supplies and their circuit designs are exact copies of their monoblock and stereo siblings.  
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Jul 27, 2006 at 04:08 PM

The more power you give your floorstanders, the better they will sound. Like I always say, floorstanders is NOT equal to bookshelf plus stands (COST-wise). You need to factor in the cost of the higher power/model amp needed to power your floorstanders to sound their best.


Just remember guys, the 9.6 costs a lot more in other countries. I saw it for $800 in a magazine. We are lucky indeed that it is a lot cheaper here. I think its best if its paired with higher model receivers fit for speakers at the price range abroad rather than our prices.  :)

 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Jul 27, 2006 at 04:16 PM
Just remember guys, the 9.6 costs a lot more in other countries. I saw it for $800 in a magazine. We are lucky indeed that it is a lot cheaper here. I think its best if its paired with higher model receivers fit for speakers at the price range abroad rather than our prices.  :)

 

Pinoys are indeed lucky that Wharfes are relatively inexpensive here than in Europe or even online.   I recall seeing online prices where a Diamond 9 model is more expensive than a Monitor Audio model. Just can't recall the specific models.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Jul 27, 2006 at 04:27 PM
While I myself use a 2-channel Acurus power amp for my fronts, and a 3-channel Acurus amp for the center and rears mated to Rotel processors,  I can't generalize about 2 ch being better than multi-ch amps.  Receivers maybe, but not among separates.  I am sure there are exceptions.  But as a general rule, most, like the Parasounds, Adcoms, have multichannel models with very generous power supplies that are more than adequate to sevice all channels.  And above a certain price point, you can expect them to behave similarly.  You can check some Aragon 8000 series and the Bryston AMP 5 to find this out and even some Krell and older Acurus 5 channel models.  Channel amp configuraiton in a multichannel gear is simply a matter of adding channels - they're almost always using identical monoblocks in the same box.  This is more an offshoot and a demand from multichannel sound from SACD and DVD-A, it is of paramount interest among audiophiles that the power amps are identical.   You can ofcourse opt to use multiple stereo power amps or even mono amps.  But most 5 channel amps out there have really generous power supplies and their circuit designs are exact copies of their monoblock and stereo siblings.  

Point taken sir AV!  :) But my post refers to purely musical considerations and based from what a friend read in other forums. Maybe where power is involved, there is no contest on the generosity of their construction. But the way they will sound for music might be different or better as said in the forum.

In my experience, when I first tried my stereo amp vs. my 5 channel amp in my setup several months ago. I seem to recall liking the sound given by the stereo amp (in music) compared to the 5 channel one. But I opted to use the 5 channel one since the brand had a bit more of prestige.  ;D

I suddenly recalled this experience when I was told about this 2 channel vs. 5 channel thing. But I wasnt aware of this that time. Sayang, I sold the stereo amp already.

But you are right, we cant generalize every amp to be that way. But for the non-krell, aragon , etc expensive amps like the ones that most members here (opting for the wharfe, the general MASA, me included  :D) can afford and use,  maybe, just maybe this generalization might be a bit..ok :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Jul 27, 2006 at 05:22 PM
Point taken sir AV!  :) But my post refers to purely musical considerations and based from what a friend read in other forums. Maybe where power is involved, there is no contest on the generosity of their construction. But the way they will sound for music might be different or better as said in the forum.


I was also responding from a musical perspective.  Which is why I did mention about multichannel SACD and DVD-A which prompted mannufacturers of multichanel gears to have IDENTIAL amps in their set-ups. 


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In my experience, when I first tried my stereo amp vs. my 5 channel amp in my setup several months ago. I seem to recall liking the sound given by the stereo amp (in music) compared to the 5 channel one. But I opted to use the 5 channel one since the brand had a bit more of prestige.  ;D

I suddenly recalled this experience when I was told about this 2 channel vs. 5 channel thing. But I wasnt aware of this that time. Sayang, I sold the stereo amp already.


You may be refering to two(2) different brands of different amp designs, and thus, different sonic signatures, between your stereo and multichannel amps.   Your 2-ch brand may indeed have a better sonic character than the 5-channel amp of another brand with an entirely distinct amp design and construction.  Or even the same brand but on a different series.    Otherwise, if they're in the same model series,  there's always a good chance each of the multichannel amps in a box is IDENTICAL to their monoblock or stereo cousins.  

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But you are right, we cant generalize every amp to be that way. But for the non-krell, aragon , etc expensive amps like the ones that most members here (opting for the wharfe, the general MASA, me included  :D) can afford and use,  maybe, just maybe this generalization might be a bit..ok :)

Maybe.   

Then again,  I have yet to encounter a multichannel power amp I can consider "MASA."  Most are really expensive, at least those that are available locally.  Even the modestly priced and powered 5-ch Rotel RMB 1066 sounds good enough for me.   I am not sure that 60T for a power amp can be considered "MASA."  But I have to say that an old HK Citation stereo power amp will beat it  in 2-channel sound.   But that's because we're talking of two different brands of entirely different designs and construction.   ;D  

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ricky on Jul 27, 2006 at 05:59 PM
Hi guys,I know this is a bit ot. But I believe what matt is trying to convey is what I told him that 2 channel amps are better than multi-channel amps when it comes to audio listening using a separate processor. Before I was a bit puzzled why in international forums of ROTEL, they prefer using a 2 channel amp for their fronts instead of multi-channel considering the very small price diff between the 2(ex. 2cha=$700,5cha=$1t) so i read more regarding the topic and was convinced later on(based from their testimonies) that indeed there was a sound difference between the two.What the foreign guys did(since they have the money) is to try both set-ups in an A-B configuration just to see(hear) the difference, and almost all that went to this route was saying the same thing.

I myself was planning on adding an additional 5 channel amp just to bi-amp my 5.0 set-up hoping to further improve the sound quality of my system in audio listening, Getting a $1t 5channel amp compared to a $700 stereo amp seems to be the more logical move but having read that its the other way around,Matt and I are now scouting for a 1070 unit(unfortunately only BN is available) to use with our fronts.

By the way 1066 is a 6x60w power amp bridgeable to 3x130w ;)

(talking and specific only on ROTEL brand,sorry if you think we are generalizing) :-[ ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Jul 27, 2006 at 06:21 PM
that 2 channel amps are better than multi-channel amps when it comes to audio listening using a separate processor. Before I was a bit puzzled why in international forums of ROTEL, they prefer using a 2 channel amp for their fronts instead of multi-channel considering the very small price diff between the 2(ex. 2cha=$700,5cha=$1t) so i read more regarding the topic and was convinced later on(based from their testimonies) that indeed there was a sound difference between the two.What the foreign guys did(since they have the money) is to try both set-ups in an A-B configuration just to see(hear) the difference, and almost all that went to this route was saying the same thing.


Such a generalization may be quite difficult to back.   Maybe it applies to Rotel, so it can be specific to Rotel,  but not necessarily to other brands at all times.  I've seen the specs of their 2-channel RMB 1070 compared to a similarly powered 5-ch  like the RMB 1095, and indeed they read differently even within the same series, the 1070 being better spec'd.   So I wouldn't be surpirsed that the better spec'd 1070 would sound better than the 1095 on the same stereo processor.   And I probably don't need a DBT to verify that.  Most Rotel stereo amps do look better spec'd than their multichannel cousins.   ;D  And between the two, I'd go for the 1070 as well. 

My 3-channel Acurus sounds exactly the same as my 2-ch channel model in the same series fed from the same Rotel and Denon pre/pro on stereo sources.   

I also did some researches between 2ch and multich before I plunged into the Acurus 2 years back.  I was contemplating on whether to get a Rotel RMB1066 multichannel or to split the fronts from the rest using good old stereo amps.  The specs on the Acurus stereo is so much better and with their equally spec'd 3-ch amp, were priced together (due to their being display units) just the same as getting the 1066.  So I settled for the Acurus (even if it was already a dead brand at that time.)   

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By the way 1066 is a 6x60w power amp bridgeable to 3x130w ;)

You're right, it's 6 ch not 5.  Just got carrried away with the 5-ch thought.   Not as good sounding as a Citation stereo power amp that a coleaugue had and replaced with for his HT and SACD set-up.  But even with that knowledge, I still wouldn't generalize.   ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Weng! on Jul 28, 2006 at 03:33 AM
Hi guys,I know this is a bit ot. But I believe what matt is trying to convey is what I told him that 2 channel amps are better than multi-channel amps when it comes to audio listening using a separate processor. Before I was a bit puzzled why in international forums of ROTEL, they prefer using a 2 channel amp for their fronts instead of multi-channel considering the very small price diff between the 2(ex. 2cha=$700,5cha=$1t) so i read more regarding the topic and was convinced later on(based from their testimonies) that indeed there was a sound difference between the two.What the foreign guys did(since they have the money) is to try both set-ups in an A-B configuration just to see(hear) the difference, and almost all that went to this route was saying the same thing.

I myself was planning on adding an additional 5 channel amp just to bi-amp my 5.0 set-up hoping to further improve the sound quality of my system in audio listening, Getting a $1t 5channel amp compared to a $700 stereo amp seems to be the more logical move but having read that its the other way around,Matt and I are now scouting for a 1070 unit(unfortunately only BN is available) to use with our fronts.

By the way 1066 is a 6x60w power amp bridgeable to 3x130w ;)

OT: sir, ano po mga processors (only) na binebenta dito sa atin?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: classicman on Jul 28, 2006 at 10:12 AM
Pacific Evo series are more refined and controlled than Diamond 9 series IMHO..


i absolutely agree w/out any reservation whatsoever....... ;D 8)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 28, 2006 at 10:23 AM
They are midlevel. Dapat lang.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ndy on Jul 28, 2006 at 08:20 PM
just like to share my aural experience from my new 9.5, last tuesday night na test ko na sya on movie and music.

movie -16db - watch behind enemy lines in dts you can feel much more impact on sounds than my previous set up mas wrap around effect and even in higher volumes hindi sya nabibitin or yung tunog na mapupunit na yung speaker mo pagsobra ng lakas. just like to add also the 9cm awesome perpormance while watching di ko pa sya masyado napagtutuunan ng pansin ;D

music -8db max- on stereo mode, played a lot ella fitzgerld, sergio mendes, frank sinatra dito talaga napansin ko talent ng 9.5 yung highs nya is very ok and in the bass department hindi mo na kailangan ng subs. i also tried playing extreme's get the punk out sarap sa  tenga parng nandun na ko sa harap nila.

since nagupgrade ako speakers di pa ko nanunuod ng news sa am ;D salamat sa mga speakers nato maganda lagi gising ko :)

salamat pdvd
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: b0ss_sa_b0ss on Jul 31, 2006 at 12:33 PM
guys, is there anyone of you experienced/heard some cracking sound to your speaker?

yung isang front speaker ko, right channel... at -17db(or kung malakas na yung bass) may cracking sound. at first i thought it was coming from the sound signal, so ang ginawa ko pinagpalit ko yung left and right channel and i found out na talagang yung speaker ko may problema.

any solution to this? or should i return it to the store?
by the way my speaker is 9.5, bought it only on May 20, 2006.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 31, 2006 at 12:43 PM
boss,

baka may sabit yun voice coil ng bass driver (or even the tweeter can do that sound). better have it checked asap, I'm sure our friendly Philippine distributor would be happy to serve you.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: skylynx888 on Aug 04, 2006 at 04:21 PM
any 9.6 users here? pa post naman ng reviews, thanks ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kojie on Aug 14, 2006 at 12:55 AM
hi guys.. whats the average pricing for a diamond 9.4 and 9.5

thanks in advance ... :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spy45cal on Aug 14, 2006 at 08:00 AM
guys, is there anyone of you experienced/heard some cracking sound to your speaker?

yung isang front speaker ko, right channel... at -17db(or kung malakas na yung bass) may cracking sound. at first i thought it was coming from the sound signal, so ang ginawa ko pinagpalit ko yung left and right channel and i found out na talagang yung speaker ko may problema.

any solution to this? or should i return it to the store?
by the way my speaker is 9.5, bought it only on May 20, 2006.

Ano po yung movies na pinanood nyo if you dont mind? I also experience cracking sound when watching "the incredibles" at -20 so ill try to lower the volume to -30 baka mawala yung cracking sound, pero di sya nawala pero sa ibang movies na pinanood ko kahit -15 wala ako na experience na cracking sound so i think sa movies lang yung naririnig ko...  Try mo ibang movies na malalakas yung LFE, pag meron pa rin kahit low volume, dapat ibalik mo na agad yung unit mo para di sayang waranty...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: atomicat10 on Aug 15, 2006 at 06:33 PM
guys, is there anyone of you experienced/heard some cracking sound to your speaker?

yung isang front speaker ko, right channel... at -17db(or kung malakas na yung bass) may cracking sound. at first i thought it was coming from the sound signal, so ang ginawa ko pinagpalit ko yung left and right channel and i found out na talagang yung speaker ko may problema.

any solution to this? or should i return it to the store?
by the way my speaker is 9.5, bought it only on May 20, 2006.

Kala ko sa 8 series lang meron nito meron din pala sa 9 series!

You gotta get your self a sub then send LFE to the sub on your AVR settings, this was the advice I got and problems were solved.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hitokiri on Aug 20, 2006 at 06:24 PM
good day gurus,
i'm new here so please be gentle :). i'm planning to buy the 9.5 wharfs as a replacement speakers for my old philips mini component that has 120 watts rms per channel. my question is, can my mini component drive these speakers which are rated 150 watts rms? your inputs will be highly appreciated. thanks! ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Aug 21, 2006 at 12:46 PM
Mas importante ang impedance rating.

6 ohms ang diamond 9.5.  Kung 8 ohms or lower ang rating ng amp, puwede na.

Di ba 16 ohms ang usual impedance ng mga mini?  Kung 16 ohms ang amp, hindi kaya.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mheloy on Aug 21, 2006 at 10:25 PM
I've been using RXV-650 with wharefedale 9 series.
napansin ko yung impedance selector is set to default (8ohms) ng receiver ko.
the wharefedale is running at 6 ohm though it says in the manual it is compatible with 8ohms receiver.

any advice?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Aug 22, 2006 at 01:33 AM
My advice:  Leave the Yamaha at 8 ohms setting.

The impedance switch is a safety feature intended to prevent overheating the receiver as a result of excessive current flow in low impedances.

While the switch is normally unnecessary, manufacturers usually provide impedance switches to comply with UL approval requirements. 

Use the 4-ohm setting only when you notice that the receiver gets hot (not just warm) at high volume use.  But don't worry.  Using the 8-ohm setting, well-built receivers like your Yamaha 650 can take even 4 ohm loads with relative ease. 

Of course, it's safer to use the 4-ohm setting because the receiver steps down the current to prevent overheating.  It's a good thing safety-wise, but be aware that a reduction of the amp's current capability would reduce the dynamic range of the output.  This dynamic range limitation would be most noticeable in the bass output.

(Note:  I use Yamaha 657 with Diamond 9.5s; my brother uses Yamaha 650 with Diamond 9.2s; both receivers are set to 8 ohms; neither has experienced any problems.)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ATJr. on Aug 22, 2006 at 07:21 AM
Sir AV, I've checked the Wharfedale Diamond 8 brochure and guess what-this series utilizes BOTH the SPIDER and the FERROFLUID COOLING!

LINK:http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/images/ranges/brochure_4.pdf

in this case, the ferrofluid helps disperse the heat developed at the speaker voice coils to the magnet structures. better than air...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kojie on Aug 22, 2006 at 11:59 AM
ok after some research i bit the bullet.

diamond 9.1
diamond 9cs
diamond 9dfs
yamaha 457

question ko na lang is for the subs. I tested the sw150 and medyo bitin nga , i even tried 2 pcs at the same time pero the klipsch RW10 and velo cht 10 was much much better. ask ko lang if which one will be better paired w/ the wharfedale , the klipsch  RW10 or velo cht 10, i will use it most of the time for movies.

thanks in advance and buti nalang may local forum para sa mga AV gears :)

--kojie
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: BuLLeT on Aug 22, 2006 at 03:39 PM
Go for the Velo ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: marckd1 on Aug 22, 2006 at 05:16 PM
kung purely movies and with music na din, go for the Velo. Gumagapang ang bass nya  8)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kojie on Aug 23, 2006 at 01:43 AM
tnx ma sirs..... ill pick up one this weekend :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: seph1018 on Aug 23, 2006 at 12:33 PM
Proud owner here of 9.5s. ;) Just wanted to ask what AVR would work best for them? I use them in my bedroom so I just want something that has enough power and ,more importantly, won't break the bank (too much). I'm considering HKs and Yamahas but don't know what would work best. I mostly watch movies but I ocassionally also listen to music.

Advanced thanks... ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Aug 23, 2006 at 03:36 PM
Proud owner here of 9.5s. ;) Just wanted to ask what AVR would work best for them? I use them in my bedroom so I just want something that has enough power and ,more importantly, won't break the bank (too much). I'm considering HKs and Yamahas but don't know what would work best. I mostly watch movies but I ocassionally also listen to music.

Advanced thanks... ;)

been using my 9.5's with yammie rxv657. no complaints here.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mheloy on Aug 23, 2006 at 11:34 PM
My advice:  Leave the Yamaha at 8 ohms setting.

The impedance switch is a safety feature intended to prevent overheating the receiver as a result of excessive current flow in low impedances.

While the switch is normally unnecessary, manufacturers usually provide impedance switches to comply with UL approval requirements. 

Use the 4-ohm setting only when you notice that the receiver gets hot (not just warm) at high volume use.  But don't worry.  Using the 8-ohm setting, well-built receivers like your Yamaha 650 can take even 4 ohm loads with relative ease. 

Of course, it's safer to use the 4-ohm setting because the receiver steps down the current to prevent overheating.  It's a good thing safety-wise, but be aware that a reduction of the amp's current capability would reduce the dynamic range of the output.  This dynamic range limitation would be most noticable in the bass output.

(Note:  I use Yamaha 657 with Diamond 9.5s; my brother uses Yamaha 650 with Diamond 9.2s; both receivers are set to 8 ohms; neither has experienced any problems.)


been using this setting (8ohms) for almost a year now... I don't have any problems....I will check if there is an improvement when setting to 4ohms.

Thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: zag on Sep 15, 2006 at 02:42 AM
Question guys. Will it damage or harm my 9.1s if i use them for karaoke?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Sep 15, 2006 at 10:34 AM
Question guys. Will it damage or harm my 9.1s if i use them for karaoke?

Thanks.
sir,
its not advisable to us it for karaoke
it will easily destroy d tweeter because of the feedback n inconsistency of the voice whenever people start signing
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Sep 15, 2006 at 12:23 PM
Risky, but maybe at low volumes, they can be used for karaoke.  Though I too would not recomment it at usual volume levels.  But I assure you, you won't enjoy karaoke at low volumes.   ;D

When going Karaoke, you have one foot into the world of live music.  And with live music, many modestly powered home playback systems,  or parts thereof,  are known to perish within hours.   ;D 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: zag on Sep 17, 2006 at 05:01 AM
sir,
its not advisable to us it for karaoke
it will easily destroy d tweeter because of the feedback n inconsistency of the voice whenever people start signing

Risky, but maybe at low volumes, they can be used for karaoke.  Though I too would not recomment it at usual volume levels.  But I assure you, you won't enjoy karaoke at low volumes.   ;D

When going Karaoke, you have one foot into the world of live music.  And with live music, many modestly powered home playback systems,  or parts thereof,  are known to perish within hours.   ;D 

Really appreciate the feedback guys. thanks  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Daemon_Seraphim on Sep 18, 2006 at 10:17 AM
Im about to get a home theater setup in the next month or so.

I would like to ask what wharfedale speakers would suit the ff:

 1. HK AVR 335 / 340
 2. HK AVR 235 / 240

What fronts, surrounds, center and subwoofer should I get.

Assuming I already have the receivers and my budget is around 20--30 K
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: [r]ichkri3g on Sep 18, 2006 at 06:10 PM
Im about to get a home theater setup in the next month or so.

I would like to ask what wharfedale speakers would suit the ff:

 1. HK AVR 335 / 340
 2. HK AVR 235 / 240

What fronts, surrounds, center and subwoofer should I get.

Assuming I already have the receivers and my budget is around 20--30 K

based on sir MAtZTER's opinion...

HK AVR 235/240 - bookshelf speakers (Wharf Diamond 9.1-9.3)
HK AVR 335/340 or higher - floorstanders (Wharf Diamond 9.4,9.5,9.6)

but it would be better if you audition different wharfedale speaker combinations. ;D


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: crenshaw on Sep 21, 2006 at 12:19 PM
guys, ok lang ba 659 with a 9.1 9dfs sw150 9cm na combination?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 21, 2006 at 05:11 PM
guys, ok lang ba 659 with a 9.1 9dfs sw150 9cm na combination?

659 is the equivalent of the HK 235/240. So ok yung 9.1's. But if you like earth shaking bass, baka bitin yung SW150, but its awesome w/ audio (fast).
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dana on Oct 09, 2006 at 09:18 AM
Hi Guys,

As soon as I get my calamity loan  (for typhoon Milenyo),plan to buy Wharf 9.1,Rosewood ;D ;D ;D.
My friend/s may also join me. We may buy 2 pairs at least...
Kindly refer the store that sells it at a cheaper price near  QC. Possibly 5K below kung meron...

Salamat...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: titan on Oct 09, 2006 at 11:41 AM
hi,

Audio Excellence at eastwood libis Cybermall, got mine ealry this year. But i think selling price nila is 5.5K
 :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: scofield on Oct 09, 2006 at 12:13 PM
Sir,

OK ba ang wharfedale speaker? balak ko sana eh. Kaso baka di kaya ng HK 135. Easy to drive naman ito di ba?

magkano kaya yung

9.4, 9.5 at yung kamatch na center?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: allenwfc on Oct 09, 2006 at 06:16 PM
question guys,

which in your opion goes best with a wharfedale series 9 bookshelf(ex, 9.1 or 9.2) setup?
the yamaha 659
or
the hk 240?

or should splurge some extra cash and get the hk340? how much is the going rate for a 340?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: skylynx888 on Oct 09, 2006 at 06:50 PM
question guys,

which in your opion goes best with a wharfedale series 9 bookshelf(ex, 9.1 or 9.2) setup?
the yamaha 659
or
the hk 240?

or should splurge some extra cash and get the hk340? how much is the going rate for a 340?

yammy 659 or hk240 will be enough to power 9.1 or 9.2

kung hindi ka mahilig sa ipod, i suggest you get the hk335 lang, pareho lang ratings nila with hk340, you could save around 4-5k, tsaka hindi masyado malayo price ng 659 compared to hk335, and IMO, ill go for hk335, yun savings mo pambili na ng 9.1 at konting dagdag na lang for 9.2  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Oct 10, 2006 at 10:19 AM
Hi Guys,

As soon as I get my calamity loan  (for typhoon Milenyo),plan to buy Wharf 9.1,Rosewood ;D ;D ;D.
My friend/s may also join me. We may buy 2 pairs at least...
Kindly refer the store that sells it at a cheaper price near  QC. Possibly 5K below kung meron...
Salamat...

ibili mo na ng Wharfedale diamond 9.1 yang calamity loan mo kundi uutangin ko sa iyo yan this weekend! ;D

goodluck k rose...woods ;D

kung vintage gusto mo eto great grandlolo ng 9.1 !


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Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: acostaml on Oct 10, 2006 at 11:22 AM
Hello,

I have Wharfedale 9.4 and 9CS for my center i bought mine at shangri la. I really dont remember but i think it was around 9K for the 9.4 and 9k for the 9CS. 

Im using a yamaha 557 to drive my wharfedales. Sounds preety good! Im selling it by the way my 557:)

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Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dana on Oct 10, 2006 at 12:30 PM
ibili mo na ng Wharfedale diamond 9.1 yang calamity loan mo kundi uutangin ko sa iyo yan this weekend! ;D

goodluck k rose...woods ;D

hehehe...pag nakuha, ibili na nga at baka ma-calamity uli ;D ;D ;D
mas mura daw sa ambassador...will chek it out....

salamat sa mga reply...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Oct 11, 2006 at 12:38 PM
question guys,

which in your opion goes best with a wharfedale series 9 bookshelf(ex, 9.1 or 9.2) setup?
the yamaha 659
or
the hk 240?

or should splurge some extra cash and get the hk340? how much is the going rate for a 340?

Try to get the 335 or 340  or Yamaha 1500 if possible. 335/40 has a different amp section than the 235 and sounds warmer. And its got area 2 capability already.

The 235 is enough to drive the 9.1's YES that is true. But the higher model's higher power, processor, , etc arent there just so there are other models or higher prices to choose from. IME, they usually sound better, warmer or more detailed.

I have auditioned a top mid level receiver (HK630 P50+K) powering tiny bookshelves ( Infinity Beta HCS) and these little speakers sounded like floorstanders! This experience awakened me to what more power & better processors can do even to small speakers. It also made me recall the all-too-familiar "thin" sound of floorstanders + entry level receivers setups w/c I also had myself before.

So knowing what I know now and if on a budget, I would recommend to go for a better receiver and bookshelves. Chances are it will sound better than a floorstander setup with an underpowered receiver. If you really want floorstanders then you can upgrade to it next time and use the bookshelves as back surrounds (7.1) . And your higher model receiver will surely be able to power your floorstanders.

Any newbie would be happy with any receiver as long as it produces sound, whether it sounds like a HTiB, basta better than what a TV could offer. But in time, as you enjoy this hobby, chances are your ears will evolve and you would look for more....(magastos to ;D) or better. thats where the higher models come in.

So IF budget permits, getting a good receiver early on is not a bad move IMO. Selling a lower level receiver at a loss to upgrade to a higher model may be a worse (costlier) move  :-\ (like I did).
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Oct 11, 2006 at 12:44 PM
Also remember the HT buy and sell section if you dont mind pre owned stuff.

Just think:

@ around P30k you can get kick @$$ receivers that were the expensive top models just a few years ago, with more power & better processing. Specially for those who really want floorstanders & plan to get the lower entry level AVRs (IMHO, manipis tunog ng FS sa lower models, usually, but it still depends on your ears).

@ around P25k you get a new entry or lower mid level receiver with lots of new hi tech features (many of which you might not need) with less power & lower processor.

Budget is still a main consideration of course. But just giving my 2 cents  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dana on Oct 11, 2006 at 04:49 PM
Just wondering & wanting to share my thoughts....how would audiophile people here would react if a speaker like Wharfedale 9.1 is priced in the range of 15K to 25K instead of  current price of P5.5K.
How would they react kaya...sasambahin rin kaya to high heavens like the  other highly priced bookshelf speakers in the market?
As it is, other reputable brands are priced way too much out of reach to some(my opinion only...)
Just noticed that many newbies, as they are called (kuno?)  easily jumps/prodded to believe that expensive is better...just my opinion.
Well, dont have a 9.1 yet, but planning to have soon (preferably Rosewood color ;D,btw this color is getting rarer by the day....)
Have yet to know other reputable brands with the same price points like wharfs:based on feature,quality of sound,cabinet design, etc. pls advise...

Just have this feeling that the 9.1 will also be legendary in the years to come just like the other known brands/models, like  Dynaco ST-70-(btw, just an ordinary tube amp way back then, 'peoples amp'....)

just a thought, tnx.... ::) ::) ::)



Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Oct 11, 2006 at 05:07 PM
Just wondering & wanting to share my thoughts....how would audiophile people here would react if a speaker like Wharfedale 9.1 is priced in the range of 15K to 25K instead of  current price of P5.5K.
How would they react kaya...sasambahin rin kaya to high heavens like the  other highly priced bookshelf speakers in the market?
As it is, other reputable brands are priced way too much out of reach to some(my opinion only...)
Just noticed that many newbies, as they are called (kuno?)  easily jumps/prodded to believe that expensive is better...just my opinion.
Well, dont have a 9.1 yet, but planning to have soon (preferably Rosewood color ;D,btw this color is getting rarer by the day....)
Have yet to know other reputable brands with the same price points like wharfs:based on feature,quality of sound,cabinet design, etc. pls advise...

Just have this feeling that the 9.1 will also be legendary in the years to come just like the other known brands/models, like  Dynaco ST-70-(btw, just an ordinary tube amp way back then, 'peoples amp'....)

just a thought, tnx.... ::) ::) ::)

hmmmm  ::)  8)  :o  ;D

may rosewoods nako, now hanap din ng original wharfedale diamond  circa 1981 ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Oct 11, 2006 at 05:22 PM
Just wondering & wanting to share my thoughts....how would audiophile people here would react if a speaker like Wharfedale 9.1 is priced in the range of 15K to 25K instead of  current price of P5.5K.

just a thought, tnx.... ::) ::) ::)


If you check the net, the diamond floorstanders belong in the same price points as some comparable floorstanders of Infinity Primus and JBL Northridge, among many brands that are more expensive locally.   Local audiophiles are lucky they are cheaper here when compared to their prices in US and Europe or on the internet,   I guess that has something to do with imprtation from China being cheaper her than in those continents.    ;D  Either that or there really is a bigger market for Wharfes locally so there's more supply and hence, lower price tags.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Oct 11, 2006 at 05:31 PM
correct me if im wrong, i believe wharfedale now belongs to the same company as quad. quad manufactures its speakers (Lseries models11 12 21 22) sa china, using kevlar drivers too, though of better quality? but ang pricing ng quad ay mas mataas kesa wharfes.  eto din kaya reason (made in china) kung bakit walang magpasok dito ng quad speakers?

imo, pound for pound and at its current price-5kphp , wharfedale diamond 9.1 is up there with the best budget bookshelves of all time- from the original wharfedale diamond, kef coda7, mordauntshort 10/10i/10ipearl and b&w601 series1,2,3.

just my mamera :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Oct 11, 2006 at 05:41 PM

Well, dont have a 9.1 yet, but planning to have soon (preferably Rosewood color ;D,btw this color is getting rarer by the day....)

kaya pala nagmamadaling umuwi yung mama, may kalamidad daw ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: allenwfc on Oct 11, 2006 at 07:07 PM
Try to get the 335 or 340  or Yamaha 1500 if possible. 335/40 has a different amp section than the 235 and sounds warmer. And its got area 2 capability already.

The 235 is enough to drive the 9.1's YES that is true. But the higher model's higher power, processor, , etc arent there just so there are other models or higher prices to choose from. IME, they usually sound better, warmer or more detailed.

I have auditioned a top mid level receiver (HK630 P50+K) powering tiny bookshelves ( Infinity Beta HCS) and these little speakers sounded like floorstanders! This experience awakened me to what more power & better processors can do even to small speakers. It also made me recall the all-too-familiar "thin" sound of floorstanders + entry level receivers setups w/c I also had myself before.

So knowing what I know now and if on a budget, I would recommend to go for a better receiver and bookshelves. Chances are it will sound better than a floorstander setup with an underpowered receiver. If you really want floorstanders then you can upgrade to it next time and use the bookshelves as back surrounds (7.1) . And your higher model receiver will surely be able to power your floorstanders.

Any newbie would be happy with any receiver as long as it produces sound, whether it sounds like a HTiB, basta better than what a TV could offer. But in time, as you enjoy this hobby, chances are your ears will evolve and you would look for more....(magastos to ;D) or better. thats where the higher models come in.

So IF budget permits, getting a good receiver early on is not a bad move IMO. Selling a lower level receiver at a loss to upgrade to a higher model may be a worse (costlier) move  :-\ (like I did).

i appreciate the input a lot!! thanks!! :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dana on Oct 12, 2006 at 08:26 AM
kaya pala nagmamadaling umuwi yung mama, may kalamidad daw ;D

Tnx AV_Phile1...but for 9.1, any reputable price point competitor?

....hehehe.nagagawa nga naman ng kalamidad na Milenyo...it opened up new doors for me, entitlement to calamity loan ;D, for me to finally buy my Rosewood 9.1 ;D ;D...at least may souvenir ung loan ko...

if all works out well today, the eagle will land tonight in our house....
special free delivery from Sights n Sounds Shangrila. Got it  for 5.5k , hindi na nkatawad...
BTW,to those interested, Ambassador GreenHills, offers it at a special price of 5K, Ash Black nga lang...

With 9.1, I know Im in good company...with the likes of Owediah, JojoD.... ;D ;D ;D...
Bili bili na habang meron pa...accdg to Ambassador, stopped production na raw rosewood 9.1 color at dami nga raw naghahanap... not sure if true.


Lesson of the day: For every calamity, there is an opportunity  ;)...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Oct 12, 2006 at 09:03 AM
Congrats!
siguro naman sa kasikatan ng 9.1 among the market's available budget bookshelves eh hindi mag stop production maski hindi na rosewood. oks din ang cherry and to some black is beautiful. buti nga honest ang wharfedale nilagay made in china eh kung di nilagay at pineresyuhan ng gaya sa ibang bansa ($300?) eh baka nagkaroon ng additional "prestige"... binyagan na yan! ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Hot Mama on Oct 12, 2006 at 09:15 AM
Just want to get expert opinion here... which is better for surround... 9SR or 9DFS? Thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Oct 12, 2006 at 10:10 AM
sir dana,
suggestment - "bi-amp"/ biwire mo 9.1 squeeze its potential to the hilt dame mo naman vintage at tube amps diyan eh. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dana on Oct 12, 2006 at 10:22 AM
sir dana,
suggestment - "bi-amp"/ biwire mo 9.1 squeeze its potential to the hilt dame mo naman vintage at tube amps diyan eh. ;D

i'll take your mamera, owediah! hinay hinay lan....will enjoy it as it is muna...nkakapagod rin magset-up, daming wire, positioning,bubuhat,etc..........hayyyyyyyy 9.1!
enjoy the music muna...hehehe.
tnx for the bad  influence ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 12, 2006 at 12:55 PM
dana,

panget yan 9.1!  ;D ;D ;D

paired it with Bullet's tado amp err t-amp and the rest is history.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 12, 2006 at 01:00 PM
Napakahirap pumili kung alin kulay, buti na lang the "audition" rule still applies.  ;D

(http://www.filehigh.com/serve/13381/235022.jpg)

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Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: rascal101 on Oct 12, 2006 at 01:11 PM
i'll take your mamera, owediah! hinay hinay lan....will enjoy it as it is muna...nkakapagod rin magset-up, daming wire, positioning,bubuhat,etc..........hayyyyyyyy 9.1!
enjoy the music muna...hehehe.
tnx for the bad  influence ;D ;D ;D

Bumili ka na ba ng 9.1? Dumarami ata speakers mo ah.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: BuLLeT on Oct 12, 2006 at 01:32 PM
dana,

panget yan 9.1!  ;D ;D ;D

paired it with Bullet's tado amp err t-amp and the rest is history.



Chief,

Nakaya ba i drive ng T-amp yung Wharf. 9.1? OK naman ba output at medium listening level? ;D

Thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 12, 2006 at 01:54 PM
Chief,

Nakaya ba i drive ng T-amp yung Wharf. 9.1? OK naman ba output at medium listening level? ;D

Thanks

Yup, at medium listening levels, kayang-kaya naman niya ang 9.1. It can even handle Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture but only at medium levels.

btw, straight connection lang, no bi-wire. I leave that to you to experiment on.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Oct 12, 2006 at 04:00 PM
i'll take your mamera, owediah! hinay hinay lan....will enjoy it as it is muna...nkakapagod rin magset-up, daming wire, positioning,bubuhat,etc..........hayyyyyyyy 9.1!
enjoy the music muna...hehehe.
tnx for the bad  influence ;D ;D ;D

as u wish. baka kase mas mabilis ma-break-in pag bi-amp/biwire at nang mapakinggan na ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dana on Oct 13, 2006 at 10:20 AM
dana,

panget yan 9.1!  ;D ;D ;D

paired it with Bullet's tado amp err t-amp and the rest is history.



my initial impression....panget nga! ;D ;D ;D.
bili na lang kayo ng iba, especially yung mas mahal ;D :P

tried my ROSEWOOD MILENYO    last night just to enjoy some music using Salena Jones, "Those Eyes" and Dave Brubecks'...finished all the songs.

gears used: Technics SL-P999 (CDP) ->AMX KT88 PP Tube (triode/ultral option) amp -> 9.1 , using diy Raon OFCC? interconnects,sala listening area.

the box was delivered fully sealed(as instructed), simple elegant prints(MADE IN ENGLAND , from the makers of famous QUADS..., though actual in China), thoughtfully wrapped with nice packaging preparations inside,documents,manual properly in order...

cosmetically, ang kyut kyut nya, mR pOGI!  ;D ;D ;D porma pa lang,ulam na,PANALO ! ;D

the cabinet has nice curves & proportions , the vinyls' texture nicely embraces the cabinet...
my initial listening experience, although not fully broken-in yet, i tried to set the volume to moderate listening level. medyo tight sounding initially but after about one hour, I noticed that the sound starts to open up...i can feel good dynamics(possibly due to curving cabinet design) & musicality.
the mids are clear &  glorious (naks!) and the  highs courtesy of silk dome tweeters  are not that bright sounding.
the bass is respectable for its size but have yet to check again after fully broken in when all the surrounds & spiders are fully 'exercised'.

overall,price vs performance value,di sya mahirap mahalin.
too early to say, but it has lots of potential...
with 9.1, will stop muna hoarding speakers unless good price etc...
paging friends:ichie, pachino, mandrake, markmlists,tinio...bili bili na...
good day,salamats...just my sentimos... ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Oct 13, 2006 at 11:05 AM
Tnx AV_Phile1...but for 9.1, any reputable price point competitor?


I would think the 9.1 would also be in the same price points as the bookshelv mdels of those brands I mentioned. I think the Mordaunt-short bookshelf speakers would also be in the same price point in Europe,  (Both are Bwitish, asembled in China and well-reviewed.)  But locally the MS is just slightly more expensive.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Oct 13, 2006 at 11:32 AM
with 9.1, will stop muna hoarding speakers unless good price etc...

paging friends:ichie, pachino, mandrake, markmlists,tinio...bili bili na...
... ;)


* bro congrats! baka you need a new amp para pakner ni rose w. milenyo?

**  o ayan may pager pa kayo sa panahon ng cellphone! ;D

unsolicited advice :
to newbies looking for a speaker to buy:  when in doubt - buy the wharfedale diamond 9.1.

to those who wanna upgrade from 9.1 i suggest 9.5 (12k?) or 9.6 (17k) best buys value for money.

just my friday the 13th mameras :) :) :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 13, 2006 at 12:11 PM
my initial impression....panget nga! ;D ;D ;D.
bili na lang kayo ng iba, especially yung mas mahal ;D :P

overall,price vs performance value,di sya mahirap mahalin.
too early to say, but it has lots of potential...
with 9.1, will stop muna hoarding speakers unless good price etc...
paging friends:ichie, pachino, mandrake, markmlists,tinio...bili bili na...
good day,salamats...just my sentimos... ;)


Di siya mahirap mahalin, especially when broken-in. Kahit nga tagpi-tagpi lang ang setup ko eh nag match naman sila. I'm sure you'll enjoy your pair.

I think I can safely assume that my 9.1s are already broken-in, but I'm still a long way from breaking-in my 9.1's stands.  ::)

 ;D ;D ;D


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Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dana on Oct 13, 2006 at 04:45 PM
...coming from Owediah & JojoD, it  must be good & deserving your audition, huh.... ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: BuLLeT on Oct 13, 2006 at 05:29 PM
Hanef.

pati stand ni Master Jojo eh tumutunog na din...  :DBayo yun ah kailangang i break in ang stand. ;D

Nice speakers chief.

Peace.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: acostaml on Oct 14, 2006 at 09:29 AM
Guys!

I have a pair of daimond 9.4,9cs and wh2 and im using a yamaha 557. You think its ok to set my receiver to 8 ohms?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Oct 14, 2006 at 01:07 PM
Oo naman.  ;) ;) Kayang kaya sa 8 ohms setting yan.  Pag nilagay mo sa 4 ohms, baka humina ang output.

My advice:  Leave the Yamaha at 8 ohms setting.

The impedance switch is a safety feature intended to prevent overheating the receiver as a result of excessive current flow in low impedances.

While the switch is normally unnecessary, manufacturers usually provide impedance switches to comply with UL approval requirements. 

Use the 4-ohm setting only when you notice that the receiver gets hot (not just warm) at high volume use.  But don't worry.  Using the 8-ohm setting, well-built receivers like your Yamaha 650 can take even 4 ohm loads with relative ease. 

Of course, it's safer to use the 4-ohm setting because the receiver steps down the current to prevent overheating.  It's a good thing safety-wise, but be aware that a reduction of the amp's current capability would reduce the dynamic range of the output.  This dynamic range limitation would be most noticeable in the bass output.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Oct 15, 2006 at 09:17 AM
...coming from Owediah & JojoD, it  must be good & deserving your audition, huh.... ;)

sir dana, di kaya bitin ang 9.1? malake spasyo mo baka mas ok 9.5 o 9.6?
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jeckjeck on Oct 15, 2006 at 04:14 PM
replaced my 9.1s with 9.5s just yesterday... all I can say is hayop! not even broken in yet but ang ganda na ng tunog... I actually now enjoyed listening to my concert dvds in stereo over 5.1....  ;D ;D the 9.1s were already great but 9.5s are the best!

salamat sir sonny
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: paolorenzo on Oct 16, 2006 at 06:54 AM
replaced my 9.1s with 9.5s just yesterday... all I can say is hayop! not even broken in yet but ang ganda na ng tunog... I actually now enjoyed listening to my concert dvds in stereo over 5.1....  ;D ;D the 9.1s were already great but 9.5s are the best!

salamat sir sonny

Why did you replace your 9.1?  Hindi naman siguro defective no?    :o

Joke, joke, joke!  Salamat sa speakers Jek.  Tulungan mo ako mag-setup ng HT ko ha.  I'll be doing it in about 2 weeks time.  Excited na ako sa Yammy-Wharfy  ;) combo.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dana on Oct 16, 2006 at 08:39 AM
sir dana, di kaya bitin ang 9.1? malake spasyo mo baka mas ok 9.5 o 9.6?
;D ;D ;D

...gamitin ko sya sir for  for moderate listening level set-up
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Oct 16, 2006 at 08:30 PM
...gamitin ko sya sir for  for moderate listening level set-up

dana gusto ng 9.1 yung birit hinahataw! try pakner mo sa sansui au-9500 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Superman on Oct 17, 2006 at 11:09 AM
doc, congrats on your wharfs! :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 17, 2006 at 11:33 AM
doc, congrats on your wharfs! :D

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Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mandrake on Oct 17, 2006 at 12:37 PM
my initial impression....panget nga! ;D ;D ;D.
with 9.1, will stop muna hoarding speakers unless good price etc...
paging friends:ichie, pachino, mandrake, markmlists,tinio...bili bili na...
good day,salamats...just my sentimos... ;)

Anak ng ???.... Huling huli ako sa balita Don.   Congrats sir!!! ;D  Nung una natin nadinig ung 9.1 ni Jeppoy kina Mike napabilib tayo lahat... ngayon meron kana ;D ;D  Akala ko pa naman mauuna si Pachino ::)  Ako nakakuha din ng Milenyo loan pero ginamit ko sa ibang calamity...ung financial kind :(  Utang pang bayad ng ibang utang :(  Parang gobiyerno natin ano ;D  Pero sir, ibig bang sabihin nyan magdidispatch ka ng gamit?  Kasi natatandaan ko meron kang magandang set ng speakers na pang low level listening, ka-match nung maganda mong tube amps. ;D  How do your Milenyo Rosewoods compare with those sir?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jeckjeck on Oct 17, 2006 at 08:28 PM
Why did you replace your 9.1?  Hindi naman siguro defective no?    :o

Joke, joke, joke!  Salamat sa speakers Jek.  Tulungan mo ako mag-setup ng HT ko ha.  I'll be doing it in about 2 weeks time.  Excited na ako sa Yammy-Wharfy  ;) combo.

sure Pao... maganda daw for HT yang Yammy-Wharfe combo... my dad got the same set up... sabihin mo lang kung kelan tayo mag-aayos..  ;) ;)

As for the 9.5s... matindi talaga! No sub required  ;D ;D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ledrahc on Oct 18, 2006 at 11:05 AM
help naman... 9.5 or 9.6?
for a price diff na almost 6k, matutuwa po ba ako sa 9.6 compared to 9.5? Hehe, never tried it side by side?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ledrahc on Oct 18, 2006 at 11:08 AM
btw, HK335 gamit ko
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 18, 2006 at 11:30 AM
help naman... 9.5 or 9.6?
for a price diff na almost 6k, matutuwa po ba ako sa 9.6 compared to 9.5? Hehe, never tried it side by side?

I guess for a big room with a big amp, yes. I am not familiar with the power rating of your HK335 but I was fortunate to try my 9.5 with a monstrous Carver PM-1200 (2X600W) and it sounded like a party. It's now using a modified t-amp with 15W/channel (more realisitcally like 6W-8W@6 ohms) and I'm having fun with it.

FWIW, the 9.6 has a separate mid driver and larger bass drivers than the 9.5, but if you'll compare the spec sheets, the difference is not that big. The sound however, is where I think you should concentrate. Better audition both speakers to hear the difference and then decide from there.

HTH

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 25, 2006 at 02:19 PM
help naman... 9.5 or 9.6?
for a price diff na almost 6k, matutuwa po ba ako sa 9.6 compared to 9.5? Hehe, never tried it side by side?

if got the space and power ( amp ) then get the 9.6 the extra midrange will give wonders  ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Oct 25, 2006 at 02:37 PM
ledrahc: Tanong mo si skylynx888, bro. May HK335 sya & 9.6 sa HT gallery. Pero sabi nya maganda naman daw.

WB Hans!!! Miss na kita! I just came from Jet's last night.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 25, 2006 at 02:39 PM

WB Hans!!! Miss na kita! I just came from Jet's last night.

Oo nga sabi ni Jet hahahahha What new Matt?? ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 25, 2006 at 02:40 PM
Sir Matt,

Was not able to hear your tube CDP hahahha sayang....


DocJOJOd,

CONGRATS sa new 9.5!!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Oct 25, 2006 at 02:42 PM
Wala naman new sa akin. But was just teaching Jet some economical acoustic renovation tips for his room. Pag tinuloy nya yun baka di nyo na makilala yung audio room nya.

Was not able to hear your tube CDP hahahha sayang....

Oo nga, di bale next time hatakin ka namin by force sa airsoft mo para mag session sa amin.  ;D

Teka para di OT: :)

ledrahc: How big is your room? Pag oversized yung 9.6 sa room mo,  baka maging boomy.

BOOM tarat tarat BOOM tarat tarat
Tararat tararat
BOOM BOOM BOOM!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ricky on Oct 25, 2006 at 02:53 PM
Wala naman new sa akin. But was just teaching Jet some economical acoustic renovation tips for his room. Pag tinuloy nya yun baka di nyo na makilala yung audio room nya.

Oo nga, di bale next time hatakin ka namin by force sa airsoft mo para mag session sa amin.  ;D

Teka para di OT: :)

ledrahc: How big is your room? Pag oversized yung 9.6 sa room mo,  baka maging boomy.

BOOM tarat tarat BOOM tarat tarat
Tararat tararat
BOOM BOOM BOOM!  ;D

Tama si matt,i just experienced what a big floorstander can do in a small room :o nawala yung tarat tarat, tararat tararat kasi puro boom boom boom kaboom lang. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: skylynx888 on Oct 25, 2006 at 04:32 PM
ledrahc [nahirapan ako sa spelling ah  ;D ;D], tama sina boss ricky and Jedi Master Matz, my room size is 22sq.m, the hk335 and 9.6 combi seems to be just right for my room and my ears  ;).  REMEMBER: With great power ( like wharfe 9.6 ) comes with great responsibility (kayang kayng ng hk335)  ;D ;D.

Heres what you can do, bring your hk335 to demo both 9.5 and 9.6, yun ang ginawa ko kahit sobrang bigat ng receiver, worth it sya, you get to hear the difference.

 ;) :D ;)



Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 26, 2006 at 12:03 AM


DocJOJOd,

CONGRATS sa new 9.5!!!!


Thanks KoYA!

Oisst, kailan ba matutuloy reunion ng gulaman boys?  ::)

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ledrahc on Oct 26, 2006 at 10:23 AM
nyahaha.. natawa ako doon sir Matz ahh ... hehe ;D ;D ;D ;D boom tarat tarat... boom boom boom
hehe.
Anyway, thanks to Sir Sonny, I already got my 9.5 and 9cm. The best talaga si sir Sonny, ganda ng offer na binigay nya...
Mga sir, tama nga kayo.. panalo nga tong 9.5... laki ng diff sa old setup ko.. ayos ang bass, humahataw.. nawalan tuloy ng silbi yung Bose sub ko.. nyahaha, time to upgrade na naman  :o :o.. wish ko lang sana may mag regalo sakin ng Velo... nyahaha
btw, Sir sonny informed me na may upcoming event siya sa mandarin hotel this nov.. can't recall the exact date...
sa wakas, makakapagpost na din ako sa gallery... try ko picturan this weekend...
salamat sa tulong nyo..... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 26, 2006 at 11:28 AM

Thanks KoYA!

Oisst, kailan ba matutuloy reunion ng gulaman boys?  ::)



DrKygeli,

Cge pagusapan namin ni Chief..

Ledrahc,

congrats..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: rony on Oct 27, 2006 at 08:28 PM
Koya HANS,  >:( ano maganda warf para surrounds????? i know expert ka pag dating sa warfs.  ::) Yun chip lang ha!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Oct 28, 2006 at 09:06 PM
Mga sir, tama nga kayo.. panalo nga tong 9.5... laki ng diff sa old setup ko.. ayos ang bass, humahataw.. nawalan tuloy ng silbi yung Bose sub ko.. nyahaha, time to upgrade na naman  :o :o.. wish ko lang sana may mag regalo sakin ng Velo... nyahaha

Pinoy audiophiles are really lucky. The 9.5 MSRP at C/NET is around $799.   But it's being sold here for only 12.5T, accdg to Spectra.  Well-reviewed in virtually every site, the 9.5 delivers real value in terms of price performance.   ;D  I would think all the diamond models do.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 29, 2006 at 10:47 AM
av,

is that US$?  ;D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Oct 29, 2006 at 04:45 PM
It's the figure I got from C/NET.  I beleive its in US$ 

Reg price is $900 from the C/Net vendor source
http://www.audioadvisor.com/store/productdetail.asp?sku=WHARFD9.5B&loc=1

Cheaper at $750 here:
http://www.surroundsolutions.com/cgi-bin/surroundsolutions.cgi/results_prod.html?prodgroup=2&catcode=1032&top_disp=1

At a UK online store, it's 350 Brit pounds.
http://www.hifistore.co.uk/gen/wharfedale.htm

You can always do a google search to validate.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 29, 2006 at 11:39 PM
Actually I have already checked for reviews online before I bought one.  ;D

Could it be that the ones we can buy here the same ones sold for US$800 abroad? If yes then all I can say is wow - we're really lucky.  8)


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Oct 30, 2006 at 07:21 AM
Just looking at online pics, I think they are the same. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 30, 2006 at 10:41 AM
That's great news indeed, well at least for me.  ;D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jeckjeck on Oct 30, 2006 at 11:44 AM
the Diamond 9.5s are priced lower that 12.5K at the SGT Home Theater... may free delivery pa! I got mine from Sir Sonny... excellent service... excellent speakers!  ;D ;D

The 9.5s are really wonderful... I find myself listening in 2 channel now more often... I've dug up a lot of my CDs to listen to them with the Wharfes...  ;)

 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Oct 30, 2006 at 12:03 PM
I was actually pleasantly surpriced that the 9.5 can go down to 30hz.  Which is excellent any way you look at it.  Even beats some subs.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 30, 2006 at 08:51 PM
I was actually pleasantly surpriced that the 9.5 can go down to 30hz.  Which is excellent any way you look at it.  Even beats some subs.  ;D

I agree. My sub project was scrubbed because of this.  ;D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sanmig_ph on Oct 30, 2006 at 10:57 PM
heres the pic of evo2

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y147/NMyTree/3085-060104.jpg

wala pa yata d2  ??? kailan kaya magkakaron
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ledrahc on Oct 31, 2006 at 11:13 AM
I was actually pleasantly surpriced that the 9.5 can go down to 30hz.  Which is excellent any way you look at it.  Even beats some subs.  ;D

i agree too.. nakatabi na nga lang yung sub ko simula nung nag 9.5 ako...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: etneroll on Nov 01, 2006 at 02:50 PM
wow, laking mura pala diyan ng Wharf...I was determined to buy na sana here in Brunei...9.5 cost here is B$ 960.00 equivalen to P29,760 ::)....buti na lang di pa ko nakabili...thanks to this forum :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: etneroll on Nov 01, 2006 at 03:06 PM
add ko lang...9.6 here costs B$1,260.00 multiply that by 31 anf that is the peso value....how much is it there ba, peeps? thanks...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 01, 2006 at 03:10 PM
17.5K ata.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 01, 2006 at 03:20 PM
Tahimik na lang muna,  I shouldn't have started the topic. Baka magka-idea yung Spectra.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: markmlists on Nov 01, 2006 at 04:24 PM
Ok lang av_phile. Thats the suggested retail price of the distributor naman. Even the Wharfedale dealer in raon observes this SRP. Itaas nila price to the point where it reaches monitor audio, bw, mission, wala ng bibili. Besides, the holier than though audiophiles who bring prestige (and therefore subjective sales impulses) wont buy them anytime soon. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: etneroll on Nov 01, 2006 at 05:01 PM
huwag naman sana...uuwi pa naman ako next month at bibilihin ko...bring it here when I get back...magkano kaya padala sa FEDex? ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Nov 02, 2006 at 07:24 AM
Ok lang av_phile. Thats the suggested retail price of the distributor naman. Even the Wharfedale dealer in raon observes this SRP. Itaas nila price to the point where it reaches monitor audio, bw, mission, wala ng bibili. Besides, the holier than though audiophiles who bring prestige (and therefore subjective sales impulses) wont buy them anytime soon. :)

hehehe swerte na nga nating pinoy sa wharfe D9.x pricing ayaw pa?! (kase made in china? Quad, sister company ng wharfe sa iag ay china-made din and priced much higher pero patok pa rin sa ibang bansa)
pound for pound bang for the buck best buys 9.1 9.5 9.6
the key is partner it with the right amp (ex: amply powerd ss w/ 9.6 or biamped config -ss sa bass and pp/el34 sa mids & highs. )  and -patience- wait for the diamonds to be broken-in and the juice will flow freely ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 02, 2006 at 11:52 AM
Tahimik na lang muna,  I shouldn't have started the topic. Baka magka-idea yung Spectra.  ;D

I think the distributor controls the pricing so no worries.... as long as the distributor didn't get the idea then were fine.  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dj on Nov 03, 2006 at 09:54 AM
I think the distributor controls the pricing so no worries.... as long as the distributor didn't get the idea then were fine.  ;D ;D ;D


Pagdating siguro ng Diamond10 ;D Sana Matagal pa at wala pa naman news. Ilang years ba bago lumabas new models ng diamonds?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Nov 03, 2006 at 12:33 PM
I think the distributor controls the pricing so no worries.... as long as the distributor didn't get the idea then were fine.  ;D ;D ;D



The SRP is declared by the distributor. The reason why our local prices are low is bec. the mark up of retailers is also veeery low. Intsik (or Tsinoy) siguro distributor. Pasalamat tayo sa mga Intsik ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 03, 2006 at 12:48 PM
The SRP is declared by the distributor. The reason why our local prices are low is bec. the mark up of retailers is also veeery low. Intsik (or Tsinoy) siguro distributor. Pasalamat tayo sa mga Intsik ;D

Low profit, high volume!  ;D ;D ;D

Hhmmm... Thanks MAtZTER!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: titan on Nov 06, 2006 at 07:25 PM
Hi,

Any idea whats the ideal room size for my set-up:
Denon 1705
Diamond 9.1
WH2 center/surround

Thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 07, 2006 at 08:59 AM
12 sq m accd. to the brochure.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: maximusIII on Nov 07, 2006 at 09:27 AM
i am planning to go to manila this thursday, can you please post the lowest possible price i could get for wharfedale 9.5 and 9.6 and 9cc.

can my teac agd8800 drive these floorstanders in the meantime while i am looking for an ampli.

thanks

atty. jccastro
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: skylynx888 on Nov 07, 2006 at 09:39 AM
i am planning to go to manila this thursday, can you please post the lowest possible price i could get for wharfedale 9.5 and 9.6 and 9cc.

can my teac agd8800 drive these floorstanders in the meantime while i am looking for an ampli.

thanks

atty. jccastro

Gud day Atty., here are the prices, almost all shops carry the same price

9.5 12500
9.6 17500
9cs 4500
9cm 6300

  Im not familiar with your current amp, I'm using HK335 to power my 9.6, and im very much satisfied  ;) ;) . Here is the link to my simple setup - http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=55942.0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: maximusIII on Nov 07, 2006 at 01:31 PM
thanks pare.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: silhouette on Nov 09, 2006 at 02:55 PM
gurus,

just an inquiry.  do you think the 9.5 can still perform if paired with denon 1802?
i just don't want to give up on this avr since it can still serve its purpose.
it was previously paired with mission m73 and m74 (latest), rear m71i & m7c2 ctr.  now, only the m71 is enjoying the avr (medyo malungkot)
in brief, denon's power rating at 5 amp channel is at 80w (8 ohm,20-20k hz) and/or 115w (6 ohm,1khz)
i'm also planning on adding a power amp to support the avr, but not sure what are my options. as to what power should match the avr and so on.

hope to get valuable inputs from the experts or even the not so expert and starters like me. :)

cheers!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Nov 09, 2006 at 03:35 PM
just an inquiry.  do you think the 9.5 can still perform if paired with denon 1802?
i just don't want to give up on this avr since it can still serve its purpose.
it was previously paired with mission m73 and m74 (latest), rear m71i & m7c2 ctr.  now, only the m71 is enjoying the avr (medyo malungkot)
in brief, denon's power rating at 5 amp channel is at 80w (8 ohm,20-20k hz) and/or 115w (6 ohm,1khz)
i'm also planning on adding a power amp to support the avr, but not sure what are my options. as to what power should match the avr and so on.

Hi Silhouette,

It will perform of course. If it was able to drive your M74, it will drive the 9.5 sufficiently. Truth is, almost any receiver can drive any speaker to "perform". The only question is if the speakers are performing its 25% or its 95% of its true capablity.

But if you are looking for the "next step" or "maximize" your speakers in HT or music, try getting good power amps, and you will hear the difference. Power amps have their own power supply and wont be  taxed as hard (mas effortless) on demanding HT & music sequences, as compared to a receiver powering 5-7 speakers & a processor from one power supply. Your mids & HF will come alive (since LF is handled by the sub anyway) & so many details that you never heard before will now be audible.

So it all depends on whether you are looking for a "sufficient" or a better, "maximized" HT & music experience from your speakers .  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: silhouette on Nov 10, 2006 at 09:04 AM
Thank you MAtZTER!

I agree, that I will only get maybe up to 70% of the speaker's performance using the said avr if I will push with the 9.5 (which I'm inclinded to get). 
You hit the point when you said 'I'm looking for the next step'...hehe..at least the system should be ready for the next round (if and when moolah is overflowing).
Anyway, having said that I'm decided on the 9.5 (present speaker budget), what additional power amp is recommended to help the present avr?  Well just to match the simple and humble set up I currently have, and so I could 'maximize' the gears.

Thanks again sir!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Nov 10, 2006 at 11:06 AM
You dont need overflowing moolah to get a power amp. I could recall there were many in the B/S section at lower than 10k before. I was once selling a 130w THX stereo amp for only 7k and no one was interested. The amp was even heavier than entry level 7 channel AVR's boasting 100w. So I sold it to my bayaw and he was so astounded by the difference from a receiver (using a Monitor Audio S6 floorstander).

Check if your AVR has pre outs (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=50034.28) (click & read reply#33) and go for 100w+ stereo amps. Even a conservatively rated 80w NAD power amp will make a significant difference. But I read in a buyer's guide that (true) 100w is recommended for floorstanders.

You can bet that these stereo amps will give you TRUE 100w compared to receivers rating their power at 100w but is actually rated at 2 channels & divided to 5 - 7 channels on HT applications. These receivers can dip down to 30w or lower in these cases  :-[. Imagine how your FS will sound w/ 100w of undivided, effortless power :o (power amp has its own power supply). It will give your HT that "UMPH!"
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: silhouette on Nov 10, 2006 at 11:47 AM
Thanks again sir MAtZTER for the tip!  I'll consider your suggestion.
Now hunting season is officially OPEN.  hehe.

cheers!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: HT_Freshman on Nov 11, 2006 at 09:48 AM
Good Morning mga sir! Newbie lang po ako dito sa PinoyDVD.

Totally beginner po ako in this field of hobby kaya i need po sana some suggestions and recommendations from you guys! Im planning to build an HT setup using Wharfedale speakers po sana, nakita ko po yesterday yung Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series ganda pala talaga ng sounds nun! Ano po ba ma rerecommend nyo sakin speakers if im in a tight budget lang po for starting an HT Setup?

Balak ko po sana kasi kunin yung Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series na Front speakers for P5.5K na nakita ko and naka promo yung Wharfedale WH-2 Series Front and Sorround speaker for P4K and US Audio Sub for P5.7K. Tanong ko lang po kung OK na po tong setup na toh for the meantime?

Many thank mga sir!

Your comments, suggestions and recommendations will be very much appreciated!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: maximusIII on Nov 12, 2006 at 10:21 AM
Good Morning mga sir! Newbie lang po ako dito sa PinoyDVD.

Totally beginner po ako in this field of hobby kaya i need po sana some suggestions and recommendations from you guys! Im planning to build an HT setup using Wharfedale speakers po sana, nakita ko po yesterday yung Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series ganda pala talaga ng sounds nun! Ano po ba ma rerecommend nyo sakin speakers if im in a tight budget lang po for starting an HT Setup?

Balak ko po sana kasi kunin yung Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series na Front speakers for P5.5K na nakita ko and naka promo yung Wharfedale WH-2 Series Front and Sorround speaker for P4K and US Audio Sub for P5.7K. Tanong ko lang po kung OK na po tong setup na toh for the meantime?


Many thank mga sir!

Your comments, suggestions and recommendations will be very much appreciated!


ht. san mo nakita yung mga wharfes

tnx


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lithium_deuteride on Nov 17, 2006 at 04:33 PM
Good day.  Guys who else sells the Diamonds outside of Spectra which doesn't have a complete set of the color I prefer (cherry).  Thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: skylynx888 on Nov 17, 2006 at 04:43 PM
Good day.  Guys who else sells the Diamonds outside of Spectra which doesn't have a complete set of the color I prefer (cherry).  Thanks.

Sir, u can visit Sights and Sounds Shangrila Mall, just look for Jhun. What are planning to get? (http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b313/skylynx888/claps.gif)(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b313/skylynx888/claps.gif)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lithium_deuteride on Nov 17, 2006 at 06:02 PM
Will do. Thanks sky. 9.2, 9C, 9DFS for a budget HT setup.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: el-el on Nov 17, 2006 at 10:39 PM
Will do. Thanks sky. 9.2, 9C, 9DFS for a budget HT setup.

budget pa ba yan?  :o

hehehe... we've got the same setup.... mabigat din sa bulsa.... :(

Anyway, swerte lang rin talaga tayo dito sa 'Pinas dahil mura ang Wharfes!  :D ;D Kung sa ibang bansa di natin masasabing budget setup pa yan....  8)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lithium_deuteride on Nov 17, 2006 at 11:52 PM
el-el;

Sorry bud, wrong word, make that "value setup".  :D

Same set-up ka?  Great. Can you tell me how it sounds?. Really curious how it'll sound especially those bipole surrounds. Di ba sila mahina? Should I get 9.1's for the rears instead?

My previous setup kasi, the fronts alone cost 20T while these five Wharfs will set me back by16T. Great value talaga even if they only sound half as good as the reviews here promise. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: el-el on Nov 18, 2006 at 12:11 AM
yeah.... hehe... "value setup"..... ;D

I like sound of the DFS bipoles..... :) tamang surround... :) although mahina nga dating nya since mababa sensitivity nya (and dahil nga siguro "diffused" and hindi talagang directional). However, you can increase the surround volume naman from your avr by about +1 or +2db to compensate....  ;)

Feeling ko nga lang medyo bitin pa yung speakers ko sa power... I only have yammy rx-v457 eh.   ::)

9.2
9.CS
9.DFS
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: accastil on Nov 18, 2006 at 07:05 AM
Thanks again sir MAtZTER for the tip!  I'll consider your suggestion.
Now hunting season is officially OPEN.  hehe.

cheers!
i personally like the sound of the 9.1 more than the 9.2. i heard the 9.1 sounding so good via nad electronics. later on youll be catching the upgrade itch and when that happens, youll realize its a waste of money budgeting your money(ironic isnt it). my suggestion is for you to save up more and buy them 1 at a time. start with very good bookshelves as front speakers. ive been through 5 different systems already before i became finally satisfied with my home audio. i do not want the same thing happening to anybody else. listen to more demos and save up for what you really want regardless of budget.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Nov 18, 2006 at 07:29 AM
i personally like the sound of the 9.1 more than the 9.2. i heard the 9.1 sounding so good via nad electronics. later on youll be catching the upgrade itch and when that happens, youll realize its a waste of money budgeting your money(ironic isnt it). my suggestion is for you to save up more and buy them 1 at a time. start with very good bookshelves as front speakers. ive been through 5 different systems already before i became finally satisfied with my home audio. i do not want the same thing happening to anybody else. listen to more demos and save up for what you really want regardless of budget.

same here, i prefer the 9.1.
in this hobby, some of us go thru this phase of seemingly never ending change of audio gears, esp. those who hear different setups here and there and when they listen to their own, feel that what they have is inferior to the others so rite away change a component or the whole setup. ive been there done that too. for newbies, i suggest first audition different systems to familiarize yourself with the different sonic characteristics - warm brite forward laid back etc then decide which suits your taste (and budget).

btw has anyone here compared the wharfedale diamond vs. the wharfedale evos? is it worth the price difference
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lithium_deuteride on Nov 18, 2006 at 11:24 AM
Nah I'm not blowing big bucks again on HT speakers.  I'll save the money for 2-channel stereo gear, a hobby which is more expensive and more sensitive to upgrades than HT.  From experience, all HT requires are good electronics, a nice & big TV, good quality LFE, good room acoustics, & Lay-z-boys and it won't matter much whether your 5-channels are entry level or mid level (as long as they are decent speakers to begin with of course), the movie experience will be equally good. Thats were these Diamonds fit the bill (I hope).  :)

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Nov 20, 2006 at 03:48 PM
Having a separate HT & audio setup is one of the best, and in a way, economical means to get a best of both worlds setup.

The other (if you want an all in one solution) is to use a separates setup,  high end pre/pro plus amps. Rotel being the cheapest processor available @ P92k (OUCH, wala pang amps yan) & Anthem @ P150k. These will let you have your audio & video in one room, excellent sound, but too pricey.

I have actually borrowed a Rotel pre/pro recently,& I have always wondered how a receiver size box is filled with so much electronics & no tuner & amp yet! When I heard the sound in music & HT, now I understand why. Now I know what a best, all in one A/V setup sounds like.

btw has anyone here compared the wharfedale diamond vs. the wharfedale evos? is it worth the price difference

I have, my response: OH YES!

Balak ko po sana kasi kunin yung Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series na Front speakers for P5.5K na nakita ko and naka promo yung Wharfedale WH-2 Series Front and Sorround speaker for P4K and US Audio Sub for P5.7K. Tanong ko lang po kung OK na po tong setup na toh for the meantime?

Many thank mga sir!

Your comments, suggestions and recommendations will be very much appreciated!

Ok na yan for the meantime, but if you have extra funds, get a 9 center and put the wh-2 center for the back surround. Dont forget to get a good receiver!  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Lucky7 on Nov 21, 2006 at 10:14 PM
If you can't afford a seperate HT and Audio setup, you should check the Arcam receivers.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Nov 22, 2006 at 01:18 PM
Isnt Arcam more expensive than Rotel? I read in other forums it sounds better but they are even more expensive than Rotels.

I actually know the new distributor of arcam but I dont bother to ask my friend cuz I can't afford it now anyway.

Baka lalong di affordable  :). I am on the hunt for a pre owned 7.1 rotel pre/pro actually.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: accastil on Nov 22, 2006 at 01:55 PM
Isnt Arcam more expensive than Rotel? I read in other forums it sounds better but they are even more expensive than Rotels.

I actually know the new distributor of arcam but I dont bother to ask my friend cuz I can't afford it now anyway.

Baka lalong di affordable  :). I am on the hunt for a pre owned 7.1 rotel pre/pro actually.
yes it is more expensive than rotel but no, it doesnt sound better than rotel...only different. it sounds different with how rotel does but not actually better. personally, i would pick a rotel than any arcam line up. ive tried many different brands already but among all of it, i never did find any fault listening to a rotel. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: allenwfc on Nov 22, 2006 at 05:23 PM
just out of curiosty..

on paper (specifically, the downloadable brochure)
the 9.3 is better than than the 9.2 which is better than the 9.1

i know that i should audition it based on my tastes, but i'd like to hear the comments of the other users or those who've listened to them.

i know some of you guys prefer the 9.1 over the 9.2, but what about the 9.3?

im just comparing bookshelves here, not floor standers.. i cant afford a receiver good enough for a floor stander... i just need some opinion between these book shelf types :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 23, 2006 at 12:08 AM
sometimes it's about the room and the amp. a 9.2 can sound boomy if your room/space is small enough. if you are a bass loving person, the 9.3 should be your choice for it's bigger bass driver which can also go much lower than the 9.1 and 9.2 bookshelves.

most of my application is audio, and for me (I speak for myself only) I choose the 9.1 and the 9.5 models since they suit my application and performs well for my needs.

in the end, it all boils down to your preferences and application.

 :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Lucky7 on Nov 23, 2006 at 02:57 AM
Here in abroad Rotel is more expensive than Arcam. I like the presentation of the Arcam which is smooth, detailed and warm sounding. I found the rotel sounds a bit sterile and cold and very forward. Anyway its a matter of personal taste.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 23, 2006 at 09:03 AM
Isnt Arcam more expensive than Rotel? I read in other forums it sounds better but they are even more expensive than Rotels.

I actually know the new distributor of arcam but I dont bother to ask my friend cuz I can't afford it now anyway.

Baka lalong di affordable  :). I am on the hunt for a pre owned 7.1 rotel pre/pro actually.

Again, another importation and market demand/distribution issue.  In other countries, both brands are in the same price league. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lithium_deuteride on Nov 23, 2006 at 09:29 AM
I have a Rotel CDP but for integrated amps, I'll buy the Arcam Divas and FMJs over the Rotels. Hell I'll even buy NAD over Rotel for the amps. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: allenwfc on Nov 23, 2006 at 10:06 AM
sometimes it's about the room and the amp. a 9.2 can sound boomy if your room/space is small enough. if you are a bass loving person, the 9.3 should be your choice for it's bigger bass driver which can also go much lower than the 9.1 and 9.2 bookshelves.

most of my application is audio, and for me (I speak for myself only) I choose the 9.1 and the 9.5 models since they suit my application and performs well for my needs.

in the end, it all boils down to your preferences and application.

 :)

thanks for the opinion :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: accastil on Nov 23, 2006 at 01:57 PM
sometimes it's about the room and the amp. a 9.2 can sound boomy if your room/space is small enough. if you are a bass loving person, the 9.3 should be your choice for it's bigger bass driver which can also go much lower than the 9.1 and 9.2 bookshelves.

most of my application is audio, and for me (I speak for myself only) I choose the 9.1 and the 9.5 models since they suit my application and performs well for my needs.

in the end, it all boils down to your preferences and application.

 :)
i would still go for the 9.1 + a good subwoofer rather than a 9.3.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: allenwfc on Nov 23, 2006 at 02:47 PM
i would still go for the 9.1 + a good subwoofer rather than a 9.3.

what about a 9.3 + a good subwoofer?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: akyatbundok on Nov 23, 2006 at 02:56 PM
in general (though there are exceptions) -- an 8" woofer like the one on the 9.3 will usually give out more bass but has a tendency to compromise the quality of the mids.... note that for some types of music, most of the musical information is in the mids..... it just so happens that the 5" - 6" woofer is just right for the mids (in general), hence the popularity of the 9.1.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: maserati on Nov 23, 2006 at 03:16 PM
in general (though there are exceptions) -- an 8" woofer like the one on the 9.3 will usually give out more bass but has a tendency to compromise the quality of the mids.... note that for some types of music, most of the musical information is in the mids..... it just so happens that the 5" - 6" woofer is just right for the mids (in general), hence the popularity of the 9.1.

what about for HT, ok ba 9.3s sa fronts?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 23, 2006 at 03:36 PM
i would still go for the 9.1 + a good subwoofer rather than a 9.3.

there you go, another excellent combo.

so you see allenwfc, it's more of a synergistical effort on the part of the listener. and to echo chief akyat's opinion, a 9.1 + sub combo would mean a better sounding mids with the low punch of a sub rather than just have a 9.3 and ask it to do it all.

sometimes our different taste in music also plays a big part, so go out there and find what suits you and your tatses the most.  :)

thanks for the opinion :)

you're welcome.

cheers

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: accastil on Nov 24, 2006 at 06:48 AM
what about a 9.3 + a good subwoofer?
the idea here why im recommending the 9.1+sub combo is for you to set speaker setting to "small" if in case youd be using a receiver along the path. in which case, a 9.3 would just overkill the task that a 9.1 would do with more than enough competency, and that is to reproduce the highs and the mids purely. let your sub do the rest...this would be better than the 9.3 alone doing the job on the lows
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: maserati on Nov 24, 2006 at 10:09 AM
guys, im gonna buy these speakers this weekend. ask ko lang kung ok tong setup na to fpr HT.  Wharfe 9.3  +  stands for the fronts, 9cs, wh2 for the back channels,  and sw150 for the sub.  Will use a yamaha receiver.  Thanks guys!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: allenwfc on Nov 24, 2006 at 10:26 AM
guys, im gonna buy these speakers this weekend. ask ko lang kung ok tong setup na to fpr HT.  Wharfe 9.3  +  stands for the fronts, 9cs, wh2 for the back channels,  and sw150 for the sub.  Will use a yamaha receiver.  Thanks guys!

based on the brochure...

the 9.3 goes better with the  9 cm,9dfs and 250sws
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Nov 24, 2006 at 11:05 AM
guys, im gonna buy these speakers this weekend. ask ko lang kung ok tong setup na to fpr HT.  Wharfe 9.3  +  stands for the fronts, 9cs, wh2 for the back channels,  and sw150 for the sub.  Will use a yamaha receiver.  Thanks guys!

sir maserati, ayos yan kung medium to large listening area at on the loud side ang preference mo. kung small to medium at moderate listening levels - inmo mas ok 9.1 . sa ht naman big factor ang center speakers so imo mas imprtant ang synergy /same timbre ng fronts at center.

but if you're into audio too, sa 9.1 parin ako
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Nov 24, 2006 at 11:10 AM
I have, my response: OH YES!


sir matz , pwede malaman anong models na-compare mo wharfe diamond 9.x at wharfe evo1 x0? day and nite ba ang diffrens?

medyo malayo yata pricing difference ng 9.1= 5.5k / evo1 10 = 15k? tnx
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: maserati on Nov 24, 2006 at 11:17 AM
thanks for the reply guys, newbie kasi ko. This will me my first setup.  Di ako masyado into music, siguro 90% movies-10% music, maybe even 95-5. mostly hip-hop and r&b lang. :)  yung room ko ngayon is on the medium side but my plans din kasi lumipat ng house, so parang future proofing na din in case mas lumaki yung room.  Im gonna get a 7.1 receiver but right now 5.1 palang balak ko gamitin, gawin ko siguro 7.1 pag sa malaki na room. so ok ba yung 9cs for 9.3 or 9cm talaga.  I saw the 9cm na din, ang laki nya, parang ka size na nung 9.3.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Nov 24, 2006 at 11:24 AM
thanks for the reply guys, newbie kasi ko. This will me my first setup.  Di ako masyado into music, siguro 90% movies-10% music, maybe even 95-5. mostly hip-hop and r&b lang. :)  yung room ko ngayon is on the medium side but my plans din kasi lumipat ng house, so parang future proofing na din in case mas lumaki yung room.  Im gonna get a 7.1 receiver but right now 5.1 palang balak ko gamitin, gawin ko siguro 7.1 pag sa malaki na room. so ok ba yung 9cs for 9.3 or 9cm talaga.  I saw the 9cm na din, ang laki nya, parang ka size na nung 9.3.  :)

go for the wharfe 9.5 . no need for speaker stands pa.
and since you said ur a newbie, this might be of use to you - http://www.whathifi.co.uk/newsMainTemplate.asp?storyID=37&newssectionID=3
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Nov 24, 2006 at 11:58 AM
go for the wharfe 9.5 . no need for speaker stands pa.

Pareng oweidah, just sharing my experiences ha  :). But I used to have exactly the same belief, "FS para walang speaker stands na".

But I forgot to put the receiver into the equation. FS are harder to drive (need more power) than bookshelves, so make sure you get a good receiver (more powerful) to get the most out of your speakers. Good system matching is the key to a good HT. The additional cost of a better receiver can cost much more than the cost of speaker stands. For a purely HT use, bookshelf speakers + good subs are enough.

One thing I learned in this hobby , its not "The bigger the speakers, the better", but its "The higher the receiver, the better".

sir matz , pwede malaman anong models na-compare mo wharfe diamond 9.x at wharfe evo1 x0? day and nite ba ang diffrens?

medyo malayo yata pricing difference ng 9.1= 5.5k / evo1 10 = 15k? tnx


I auditioned it w/ a Wharfe Evo bookshelf too. Night & day difference? maybe not. But for me, the sonic improvement of Mid level speakers compared to entry level is definitely worth it.

Pag nagsawa ka na sa entry level speakers mo, its redundant to move sideways and get another brand's entry level speaker. Go upward for the Mid levels! The refinement & clarity is just amazing. Yun nga lang, dagdag gastos din sa matching electronics (receivers, amps, etc.)


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Nov 24, 2006 at 12:32 PM
One thing I learned in this hobby , its not "The bigger the speakers, the better", but its "The higher the receiver, the better".


My friend bought a set of Energy speakers in Canada way back in 1997, combined with the cheapest Yamaha receiver he could get his hands on. then brought here to use. All I hear from him were insults to how crappy those speakers were. He did it so often that I challenged him to bring his speakers to my place to disprove him.

2 days ago, I connected it to a top mid level receiver, and all I saw from him was  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: synchro_01 on Nov 24, 2006 at 01:35 PM
IMHO it is the specs of the speakers and not the physical size of the cabinet itself that determines how easy it would be to drive that speaker.   
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Nov 24, 2006 at 02:38 PM
I understand your point sir sychro  :). But if you are referring to the spec of sensitivity, sensitivity is referring to loudness but sensitivity is not = sound quality. Even a 90db sensitivity B&W 602 sounds better with higher power amps.

I came from a friend's house last night who tested his lower sensitivity BS speaker (used as surrounds in his HT) vs his high 91db sensitivity BS speaker on a SET tube amp. He observed that the high sensitivity speaker was louder, but the lower sensitivity speaker sounded better.

I should have referenced my above observation using "better sounding" instead of using the phrase "easy to drive". Pardon my wrong choice of words.  :) IME, FS sound great with higher model / higher powered AVR's compared to the lower model AVR's (sounds very thin).  BS are ok with lower powered AVR's , but surprisingly they can perform wonders when paired with higher model/power/quality AVR's. I am currently using an entry level Onkyo AVR with a small BS for my bedroom setup... sound is just wonderful!

Well, just my 2 cents  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Nov 24, 2006 at 08:35 PM
Pareng oweidah, just sharing my experiences ha  :). But I used to have exactly the same belief, "FS para walang speaker stands na".

But I forgot to put the receiver into the equation. FS are harder to drive (need more power) than bookshelves, so make sure you get a good receiver (more powerful) to get the most out of your speakers. Good system matching is the key to a good HT. The additional cost of a better receiver can cost much more than the cost of speaker stands. For a purely HT use, bookshelf speakers + good subs are enough.

One thing I learned in this hobby , its not "The bigger the speakers, the better", but its "The higher the receiver, the better".


I auditioned it w/ a Wharfe Evo bookshelf too. Night & day difference? maybe not. But for me, the sonic improvement of Mid level speakers compared to entry level is definitely worth it.

Pag nagsawa ka na sa entry level speakers mo, its redundant to move sideways and get another brand's entry level speaker. Go upward for the Mid levels! The refinement & clarity is just amazing. Yun nga lang, dagdag gastos din sa matching electronics (receivers, amps, etc.)

rite sir matz, this hobby whether audio or ht, is all about matching the different components taking into consideration other factors such as listening room area and acoutstics; listening level preferences, etc etc. to ultimately achieve the oftentimes elusive system synergy. the seemingly neverending long and winding road that hopefully leads to the door of audio nirvana.   :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bugoy-bugoy on Nov 24, 2006 at 10:58 PM
IMHO it is the specs of the speakers and not the physical size of the cabinet itself that determines how easy it would be to drive that speaker.   

i agree with this, i think the speaker's sensitivity, nominal impedance, power handling requirement along with other specs, matter more than its physical size in determining if its easy to drive or not

ex: a 4-ohm sonus faber cremona auditor bookshelf speaker with 88dB sensitivity & with 50-250watts power handling requirement should be harder to drive than an 8-ohm b&w 603s3 floorstanding speaker with 90dB sensitivity & with only 25-150watts power handling requirement

and even the 8-ohm b&w 805s bookshelf speaker would still be harder to drive than the 603s3 since it only has an 88dB sensitivity & a power handling requirement of 50-120watts

just my 2 cents, of course ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 24, 2006 at 11:17 PM
my 9.1 and 9.5 endured this amps.

1. Sonic Impact with hot rodded psu, roughly about 8W/channel.
2. tube-hybrid Gainclone, 56W/channel.
3. diy'ed fixed bias PP EL34 which is about 35W/channel.
4. diy'ed 100W/channel full complimentary SS amp.
5. diy'ed 500W/channel quasi complimentary SS amp.

using amp #5 is like having a party, as of now I am using amps #1 & 3 alternately without any difficulty in driving the 9.1 and the 9.5 floorstander. as always, YMMV.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: titan on Nov 24, 2006 at 11:47 PM
Hi ,
Just want to share my  D9.1 and Denon 1705, i transfered my set-up to a small room (8x5ft.) and i think they are much easy to drive mas lumitaw yung details. I'm more in to stereo listening right now. I'm not sure if kabit ko ba yung WH2 ko. Btw, i paired them with an old  Sansui Intergrated Stereo Amplifier model A-M77(part of Midi Componets of early 80s)  rated at 108 watts ( 8-12 ohms) . Grabe konting adjustment lang ng bass/treble mas ganda pa tunog compared with my Denon.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: HT_Freshman on Nov 28, 2006 at 08:30 AM
ano po ba magandang gamiting  AV Receiver for my Speakers na price eh nasa P15K po???

Speakers:
FRONT - Wharfedale 8.4 (Planning to Upgrade to 9.1)
SORROUND - Wharfedale WH-2 Sorround
CENTER - Wharfedale Diamon 9CS


many thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Dec 05, 2006 at 02:44 PM
i personally like the sound of the 9.1 more than the 9.2. i heard the 9.1 sounding so good via nad electronics. later on youll be catching the upgrade itch and when that happens, youll realize its a waste of money budgeting your money(ironic isnt it). my suggestion is for you to save up more and buy them 1 at a time. start with very good bookshelves as front speakers. ive been through 5 different systems already before i became finally satisfied with my home audio. i do not want the same thing happening to anybody else. listen to more demos and save up for what you really want regardless of budget.

Same here, I have been through 3 setups already & I dont want the same thing happening to anybody else. And selling your gears at a loss to upgrade cuz you heard something better is such a money & time consuming ordeal.

Thats why I agree with the article oweidah posted here (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=55637.0;topicseen) regarding upgrade fever.

Quote
So what's the answer? A large part of it is to buy right in the first place: when you're auditioning a system or a component don't think 'Yes, that might sound OK if only I?', but rather only buy something that blows your socks off with the improvement it makes to your music. .

The key is to GET IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME. Correct system matching is the key to a good HT system. My posts above regarding matching BS & FS are with regards to Home theater & Receivers ONLY, NOT tubes, integrated amps, etc.

HT is a bit more demanding than music. And getting a FS combined with any cheap low powered receiver was not a good combination in my experience. I also met several people who had the same experience w/ FS plus EL receiver, "BITIN" daw.

So for me, its really better to just save up for a better receiver than just buy any that your budget allows for the meantime.

A Buyer's Guide I read recommends at least 100w for floorstanders. Considering how receiver companies mislead & inflate their power ratings to 100w, a suggestion would be THX certified receivers (min of 100w for certification). I think I saw a Kenwood THX AVR yesterday thats most most affordable among all the THX avr's I have seen. Its only 27k. Anyone have any experience with Kenwood AVR's? How much are Pioneer THX avr's?

But still, my 2 cents.



Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 06, 2006 at 12:29 PM
Matt,

I use my 9.5 with a t-amp, oks naman kahit high volumes except with those dynamically demanding moments, medyo bitin - pero at high volumes na yun ha, so at moderate listening levesl more than enough na ito. Using a Rotel RA-02 (40W/channel) changes things a lot already.

I agree with you that the more powerful the better though, para isang bilihan na lang ng amp, wala ng pabago-bago ng isip at upgrades.  ;D ;D ;D

Cheers

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Dec 06, 2006 at 12:58 PM
I agree Jo, but like I said, my recommendations are based  on HT & receivers only (usually mass market AVR's) based from my experiences :). I dont have that much experience in integrateds, tubes & audio.

Also an observation: I found a single woofer FS (88db) sounding better than my older 2 woofer FS (92db) w/ T-amps, even if the 2 woofer FS had higher sensitvity. But its all subjective.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Assassin101 on Dec 06, 2006 at 02:55 PM
I agree Jo, but like I said, my recommendations are based  on HT & receivers only (usually mass market AVR's) based from my experiences :). I dont have that much experience in integrateds, tubes & audio.

Also an observation: I found a single woofer FS (88db) sounding better than my older 2 woofer FS (92db) w/ T-amps, even if the 2 woofer FS had higher sensitvity. But its all subjective.  :)

OT lang po. yan po ba sir un m34i at un m52 you are talking about?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Dec 06, 2006 at 03:02 PM
Yes, parang hirap sya sa M34 kahit mataas sensitivity (92), di ko nagustuhan so I still used my M72 (89db) BS/standmounts. Mas refined yung tunog sa M52 (88db) but syempre, mid level na din kasi yung M52. Sa ganda ng tunog ng M52, it was redundant for me to retain my M72 so I sold it.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: skylark on Dec 06, 2006 at 03:30 PM
kung gamit mo speaker was 88 or 89 db ano maximum power ng avr na dapat gamitin para okey ang sound
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Dec 06, 2006 at 04:41 PM
kung gamit mo speaker was 88 or 89 db ano maximum power ng avr na dapat gamitin para okey ang sound

The term "ok ang sound" is subjective and could vary from "pwede na" to "W  :o W"

Bro, kung sa akin lang, and kung HT lang paguusapan, the bigger the better. I went through a 14k - 25k - 50+k receiver to power amps. As you go up the ladder the better it sounds.

May "SIPA" yung HT mo, lalo na sa midrange, kahit may subs ka pa. If higher model receivers sounded the same as entry levels, I dont think they would have survived their business this long fooling customers.

Look for the FTC power rating (@20-20khz) , not JETA power (1khz) w/c tends to be bloated & measured at its peak burst.

Thats why tama sabi ni Jojo, saving up for a really good receiver is better than just buying one that your budget permits for the meantime. Of course in the end, this will always depend on your level of HT enthusiasm. Your level of enthusiasm dictates how much quality sound you want & how much you will shell out.

And of course, just my 2 cents.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 06, 2006 at 05:24 PM
kung gamit mo speaker was 88 or 89 db ano maximum power ng avr na dapat gamitin para okey ang sound

It depends on your volume level preference at your listening position and the size of your room as well as absorptive accostic condition.  No hard and fast rule.  Bear in mind that the indicated senstivity levels in most pseaker specs are anechoic senstivities (unless otherwise indicated) - meaning they were measured in non-reverberrant conditions at one meter away.  There's also another sensitivity called in-room sensitivity which is more real.  Some say add 3db to the anechoic senstivity for a more realistic rating.  So in typical room, an 88db anechoic sensitivity can be 90db, to be more conservative. 

Here's a rather rough estimate.  If you like to listen at loud levels, approaching those you hear at live events, we could be talking close to 100db SPL.  (Ordnary speech between two persons one meter apart registers around 60db.  The conductor at the podum gets 120db.)  So for an 88db SPL speaker delivering 1 watt one meter away, you would need it to deliver 12db more.  That means you would need around 16watts RMS per channel to get 100db one meter away from the speakers.  (Double the watts for every 3db increment)  But if you listen at 2 meters away from the speaker which is often typical in a small room,  you lose 6 db.  (you lose 6db for every doubling of distance)  So you would need 64 watts RMS at that distance to get 100db SPL.  But let's not forget about headroom.  Musical signals consist of transient peaks that can easily require twice the continuous power instantaneously without going into clipping distortion.  So you need at least a 128 watts per channel amp.  I would think then that  a 120 watts RMS.channel amp should be adequate in most comfortably loud listening conditions and in small room sizes should you decide to crank up the volume a bit for an 88db speaker.  And given that in-room senstiivty adds 2-3db over the specified anechoic sensitivity rating, 120watts is really more than enough for comfortable listening levels without ever clipping.  


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: accastil on Dec 06, 2006 at 06:37 PM
here my take: its not about the speaker size, not about the price, not even about the specs that defines what is good from what is not. the key is to "LISTEN" with your own ears. and most of all, the trickiest part is synergism...never presume that a gear or speaker with insanely expensive price would sound good when paired with your existing gears or system or even your room. best thing to do is to bring your stuff to the store to audition or VV, bring the gear to your home(this is of course a better audition set up). youd be surprised to realize how a 35Tphp bookshelf would dump a 375Tphp floorstander when it comes to sonic quality...can you imagine that much savings? you dont really need to spend much to have a really good sound, all you need to make use of is your own ears and some really logical trial and error in your own home.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: acostaml on Dec 09, 2006 at 07:48 PM
on what i did i have 9.4s and an HKAVR335. Sounds really good.. I think ill stick with this setup for now:)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 09, 2006 at 11:50 PM
It's the money factor (budget, financial status, bonus, whatever) that dictates most (but not all) decisions.

I once tried powering a Cerwin Vega LR-36 bass bin (18" folded horn @106dB sensitivity; power handling @ 750W program/1500W peak) with a 150W power amp and it surely can serve most party needs. Then lo and behold, I was able to borrow a QSC RMX4050HD with a whooping 2600W (FTC 20Hz-20KHz @0.1%THD) of power when bridged and what happened next was in short, unheard of, i.e. the earth was shaking.

Putting the numbers aside, the lower power amp did an awesome job and served it's purpose. However, the more powerful amp did something amazing, it showed us what the speaker was really made of and what it was really made for.

Therefore, giving our beloved speakers the needed juice (plus extra) is not a bad idea at all if we can afford it, this only justifies avphile's point on headroom and matzer's allergies on sars/upgrades.

The lesson I learned: I will get what I want - if I can't afford it yet, I'll save up first and contain my excitement. Never again will I buy anything lower than what I want. Sleepless nights due to excitement I will take, rather than a bad, hasty purchase.

As they say, my 2 cents.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: accastil on Dec 10, 2006 at 12:21 AM
It's the money factor (budget, financial status, bonus, whatever) that dictates most (but not all) decisions.

I once tried powering a Cerwin Vega LR-36 bass bin (18" folded horn @106dB sensitivity; power handling @ 750W program/1500W peak) with a 150W power amp and it surely can serve most party needs. Then lo and behold, I was able to borrow a QSC RMX4050HD with a whooping 2600W (FTC 20Hz-20KHz @0.1%THD) of power when bridged and what happened next was in short, unheard of, i.e. the earth was shaking.

Putting the numbers aside, the lower power amp did an awesome job and served it's purpose. However, the more powerful amp did something amazing, it showed us what the speaker was really made of and what it was really made for.


very well said jojo..."never settle for anything less than what you really want or long for"....you need to hear the best demos. if you think your set up is already good enough, wait until you hear whats in demo for those hi-end audio shops. until then, you wont be getting away from the upgrade fever...so know what you really want and save up to have them. settling for anything less would mean repetitive buy and sell.
Therefore, giving our beloved speakers the needed juice (plus extra) is not a bad idea at all if we can afford it, this only justifies avphile's point on headroom and matzer's allergies on sars/upgrades.

The lesson I learned: I will get what I want - if I can't afford it yet, I'll save up first and contain my excitement. Never again will I buy anything lower than what I want. Sleepless nights due to excitement I will take, rather than a bad, hasty purchase.

As they say, my 2 cents.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Dec 11, 2006 at 11:22 AM
Very well said Jo!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spiro0426 on Dec 11, 2006 at 12:58 PM
My present set-up was an Yamaha RXV 2200 AVR, 9.5, 9CM, and 9DFS. Thru this thread, i was able to confirm to myself that i am indeed got the right set-up (based also on other factor such as budget, room size, wife comments, etc). I am very much satisfied lalong lalo na sa HT na paborito namin ng 2 year old boy ko. As of now, sa 9.5 ako umaasa ng function ng subwoofer (medyo nabigla na kasi ako sa gastos) kaya i delayed buying the right sub.

Somebody offered me this sub at P8.5k. Just want to confirm to the guru's and experienced pdvd members kung okay ito for my set-up.

Cube Sub. http://www.bayaudio.com/cubesub.html

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b327/spiro0426/SONY%20DRX7/c10.jpg)



(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b327/spiro0426/SONY%20DRX7/cube_sub_pix.jpg)

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 11, 2006 at 01:32 PM
There are apparently different cube models on that site, which one is the 8.5T? 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spiro0426 on Dec 11, 2006 at 02:34 PM
The one that is downfiring which is 350W amp, 47 lbs. Medyo contradicting ung specs sa site but based on confirmation with the sales guy un daw ang specs.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: AlvinladeN on Dec 19, 2006 at 01:47 AM
is it okay to pair the 9.1 and the wh-2 center?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: AlvinladeN on Dec 19, 2006 at 01:28 PM
and also where can i find the 9.1 and how much? tagal may magbenta sa buy and sell section eh
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Jun_P on Dec 19, 2006 at 01:39 PM
I think there are 9.1s at Ambassador Park Square, check it out. Not sure of the price.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: muypogi on Dec 20, 2006 at 05:57 AM
and also where can i find the 9.1 and how much? tagal may magbenta sa buy and sell section eh

Uy, kakabenta ko lang nung diamonds ko last week.  na-advertise ko rin dito. 

Diamonds are also available sa Sight and Sound Shangrila mall 4/F.  Sa park Square, the audio shop in between ambassador and the one selling Mourdant Short/Gale also carry the 9.1.  may maganda sialng rosewood finish pa yata.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dannielsimone on Dec 24, 2006 at 12:27 AM
I suggest you look at the Evo2-30...the new wharfdale in the market.  The succesor to the diamond series I believe.   
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: maximusIII on Dec 24, 2006 at 08:34 AM
My present set-up was an Yamaha RXV 2200 AVR, 9.5, 9CM, and 9DFS. Thru this thread, i was able to confirm to myself that i am indeed got the right set-up (based also on other factor such as budget, room size, wife comments, etc). I am very much satisfied lalong lalo na sa HT na paborito namin ng 2 year old boy ko. As of now, sa 9.5 ako umaasa ng function ng subwoofer (medyo nabigla na kasi ako sa gastos) kaya i delayed buying the right sub.

Somebody offered me this sub at P8.5k. Just want to confirm to the guru's and experienced pdvd members kung okay ito for my set-up.

Cube Sub. http://www.bayaudio.com/cubesub.html

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b327/spiro0426/SONY%20DRX7/c10.jpg)

almost the same ata ang set up natin ha.

9.5, 9cm and 9.1 naman mine.  however wala pa din sub tulad mo. btw, did you get the cube you were asking about, is it good, what store. how about the dfs, are you satisfied with them.

tia



(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b327/spiro0426/SONY%20DRX7/cube_sub_pix.jpg)


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LtCool on Dec 26, 2006 at 10:32 AM
@dannielsimone, how much is the Evo2-30 nowadays? I would like to add it to my setup of D8 floorstanders.

Thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: arjunadas on Jan 04, 2007 at 09:10 PM
Hello Guys,

I'm a newbie on this site. Just want to ask your opinion if Onkyo 8511 will be a good match for wharfedale diamond 9.5?

What other receivers can you recommend at a price level of 15K? I'm more on listening music, blues, jazz and sometimes rock.

regards,
Omar
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jeckjeck on Jan 05, 2007 at 05:00 AM
My wharfe 9.5s are paired with my Denon 1906... great match!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Bogsle on Jan 05, 2007 at 07:21 PM
Hello Guys,

I'm a newbie on this site. Just want to ask your opinion if Onkyo 8511 will be a good match for wharfedale diamond 9.5?

What other receivers can you recommend at a price level of 15K? I'm more on listening music, blues, jazz and sometimes rock.

regards,
Omar

Music?  Hmmm....

Yep the Denon will be good for HT and Audio applications.

or you may consider also going for a dedicated audio setup with a separate integrated amp.

Magastos, I know coz that's what I did. But suggestion lang naman po.





Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: accastil on Jan 07, 2007 at 01:14 AM
Music?  Hmmm....

Yep the Denon will be good for HT and Audio applications.

or you may consider also going for a dedicated audio setup with a separate integrated amp.

Magastos, I know coz that's what I did. But suggestion lang naman po.

much better if you would have the same set of fronts. add a stereo power amp for them and buy a separate pre-amp apart from your receiver to make use of when listening to 2-ch audio only. you may buy an input selector to toggle between ht and audio usage. this is what i did in my rig.




Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Bogsle on Jan 07, 2007 at 01:48 AM
much better if you would have the same set of fronts. add a stereo power amp for them and buy a separate pre-amp apart from your receiver to make use of when listening to 2-ch audio only. you may buy an input selector to toggle between ht and audio usage. this is what i did in my rig.

Whoahhh!

But then, bro Arjunadas, maganda tumunog generally ang Wharf 9.5. Warm sounding, good bass, and since floor stander, may authority pag tumunog dahil may malawak na frequency range.

The other week I was with a colleage auditioning speakers also for a new HT setup. We went to this shop in Glorieta, the one above Mercury drug store and they had hooked up a pair of 9.5 with a Yamaha receiver. They had Eagles playing on DVD, and it sounded good. Sarap nga makinig eh. Then we requested them to put on an audio cd, and we listened. Ganda pa rin. Iba talaga ang dating ng floor standers, kumpleto na eh.

Since maganda na ang Wharf 9.5, the choice of the receiver would depend na lang sa preference mo. Mag audition ka. Yup, medyo mahirap nga kasi different shops sell different speakers for the receiver(s) they carry. Well, at least when you listen, you will get familiar with the general sound characteristics of these receivers just the same.

For Onyo, go to Sound Dimension in Park Square 1 and listen. They also have Rotels kung interested ka.
For Marantz AVRs go to 5th Avenue, park square 1 din or SM North.
For HK go to Architectural Audio in Greenbelt 1 or Digital Dreams in SM North Carpark.
For Yamaha go to any of the Listening in Style group of shops in MegaMall, EDSA Shang, etc.
For Denon punta ka sa shop dito sa PowerPlant...sorry I forgot the name. Pero mahahanap mo yun dun.
Inquire also from Mr. Sonny Tuazon kung anong meron syang available.

Basta wag ka mag madali, bro.

Remember, gagastusan mo yan. Kaya dapat give it more time.  Audition and ask lang if you have questions.

Pag sinupladuhan ka ng mga shops or anyone sa mga sales person nila, kunin mo pangalan at i-post mo dito. hehehe.

Good luck.


 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: arjunadas on Jan 08, 2007 at 11:55 AM
To all,

Thanks to all the replies on my inquiry, they were all very informative.

I need to ask your opinion again regarding wharfs and aurum cantus comparison, I have auditioned this 2 speakers about 2 weeks ago the diamond 9.2 and aurum cantus F5000R.

Both speakers sound good, though the aurum tends to disappear in front of me, but when I look at the specs medyo nagisip ako since the aurum freq range is 60Hz-20Khz compared to 45Hz-24Khz of 9.2. Also the aurum uses special paper material on the cone while the 9.2 uses kevlar. And the aurum is more hard driven than the wharf.

My question is, how important are this factors when buying a speaker. Sound wise parang mas advantage yung aurum though when I ask the salesman, di pa raw gaanong na break-in. Specification wise naman, advantage yung Wharfedale.

thanks . . .
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lithium_deuteride on Jan 08, 2007 at 12:46 PM
All things being equal, trust your ears, not the specs. For example, Kevlar is hi-tech compared to paper but soundwise, based on my experience, paper cones are better.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: odyoboy on Jan 08, 2007 at 07:15 PM
"For bullet proof vest, Kevlar is the best"
For speakers, trust your ears. Whatever what kind of sound came out of those speakers as long as your happy OK yun! Its your money your spending so don't be trick by marketing GIMMICKS!  >:(
Title: Wharfdale Diamond 9 HCP award
Post by: dannielsimone on Jan 09, 2007 at 08:37 PM
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Best compact speaker package award by "What Hifi "  in the 500-900 (BRITISH POUND STERLING ) category OR PESO EQUIVALENT..40,000 TO 80,000 PESO  YEAR??---2004/2005/06?

I believe THIS SYSTEM IS AVAILABLE NOW FOR UNDER 20,000 PESO!!!!!

Any of you folks own or ever demo this system. 


what do you know about it?

Need your opinion!


http://www.hifibitz.co.uk/product.asp?id=3604&aid=35011&oid=4211


http://www.avreview.co.uk/news/article/mps/UAN/224/v/1/sp/

http://www.hifibitz.co.uk/WhatHiFi.asp


Title: Re: Wharfdale Diamond 9 HCP award
Post by: dannielsimone on Jan 10, 2007 at 07:30 PM

 

Just got back from demoing the wharfdale diamond 9 compact cinema 5.1 and must say it was a very good sounding (18,000 peso)  system. Speakers were matched up with an Onkyo receiver. These speakers   Beat up most of the HTIB offered by the major commercial brands that specialize in Audio&video packages.  They are solid speakers and pretty heavy as well.  Nice looking.  The sub is only 100 watt but sounds like it is only 50 watts??   Perhaps it was the positioning of the speakers themselves. For the money I thought there was great value there.  The surrounds are the same drivers as the fronts but the speaker is thinner and shaped oblong like. That is a nice feature for asthetics but the wall mounting is flat screw type..not the swivel type that I personally need for my room.  Will consider outsourcing a wall bracket from perfect view.  (only the fronts had a swivel bracket and that itself was only fair).

If you are considering a HTIB speaker package for a budget of under 20,000 this must be on your list to demo.  It really did impress.  IMHO You will not look at pioneer samsung panasonic etc. etc. after hearing these.


Now just after the demo of the wharfs I went next door and demoed the Mission m30i ( for the second time) how ever this time I brought with me  CD in hand.  I jammed the Allman brothers Statesboro Blues > In memory of Elizabeth reed.  I demoed just the two speakers with out a sub or center.  The quality of the speaker was excellent.  No sub was required  for music as the base responce was just enough.  I mean these speakers were just 2 SWEEEEET.  Makes me wanna push up the budget a bit.  Full 5.1 system with sub and center was 44,000 more than double the wharfdale.  I am hard pressed for cash right now. 



Oh yes...let me say that my wife demoed the speakers with me and she commented how the Missions sounded so much better than the wharfs  as soon as she heard the first few notes.....I said they better as they cost more than twic  as much!!! .......................................Than on the way home as we werwe stuck in traffic My wife turned to me and said....those missions really sounded good even with out a sub woofer.  How much are they again?




Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: accastil on Jan 11, 2007 at 06:58 AM
To all,

Thanks to all the replies on my inquiry, they were all very informative.

I need to ask your opinion again regarding wharfs and aurum cantus comparison, I have auditioned this 2 speakers about 2 weeks ago the diamond 9.2 and aurum cantus F5000R.

Both speakers sound good, though the aurum tends to disappear in front of me, but when I look at the specs medyo nagisip ako since the aurum freq range is 60Hz-20Khz compared to 45Hz-24Khz of 9.2. Also the aurum uses special paper material on the cone while the 9.2 uses kevlar. And the aurum is more hard driven than the wharf.

My question is, how important are this factors when buying a speaker. Sound wise parang mas advantage yung aurum though when I ask the salesman, di pa raw gaanong na break-in. Specification wise naman, advantage yung Wharfedale.

thanks . . .
arjunadas, before and while listening, you do not need to know the specs or even the brand and the appearance of the speakers. all you need to do is listen. whichever seems best to you should be it, nothing less. if its too expensive, do not settle for anything cheaper. save up more money instead for a more rewarding buy. this is how you save monely in the long run, rather than settling for less and later on buying another and another and another and another....
if youd ask me, i like paradigm reference speakers over any of the speakers you have auditioned. but thsi is just me. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: noreen_ on Jan 11, 2007 at 05:15 PM
hello po.. ok po ba 'to?  ??? ??? ???

Bookshelf speakers,2004-2005 what hi-fi magazine BEST BUY HIGH END entry level speaker of the year.Almost NEW!NO SCRATCHES!1 month used.Great sound quality,clear crisp highs,very clear vocals ,deep bass extension.Color black ash.Bi wire and bi amp capable. Specification Bass 5" 125mm B/M Tweeter 25mm tex Power 20-100W Nominal Impedance 6ohm Frequency 50-24k @ -6dB Crossover 2.3k Dimensions 194mmx296mmx278mm.

binebenta kc yan ng P4900. nd ko kc kabisado mga yan. balak ko lng panregalo.  salamat po.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: accastil on Jan 11, 2007 at 05:35 PM
hello po.. ok po ba 'to?  ??? ??? ???

Bookshelf speakers,2004-2005 what hi-fi magazine BEST BUY HIGH END entry level speaker of the year.Almost NEW!NO SCRATCHES!1 month used.Great sound quality,clear crisp highs,very clear vocals ,deep bass extension.Color black ash.Bi wire and bi amp capable. Specification Bass 5" 125mm B/M Tweeter 25mm tex Power 20-100W Nominal Impedance 6ohm Frequency 50-24k @ -6dB Crossover 2.3k Dimensions 194mmx296mmx278mm.

binebenta kc yan ng P4900. nd ko kc kabisado mga yan. balak ko lng panregalo.  salamat po.  :)

hi noreen, listen to it. if you like the sound and this is the first set of speakers that youll ever own, then the price is already good for a wharfedale 9 series. regular price for this one is 5500php.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 12, 2007 at 08:00 PM
hello po.. ok po ba 'to?  ??? ??? ???

Bookshelf speakers,2004-2005 what hi-fi magazine BEST BUY HIGH END entry level speaker of the year.Almost NEW!NO SCRATCHES!1 month used.Great sound quality,clear crisp highs,very clear vocals ,deep bass extension.Color black ash.Bi wire and bi amp capable. Specification Bass 5" 125mm B/M Tweeter 25mm tex Power 20-100W Nominal Impedance 6ohm Frequency 50-24k @ -6dB Crossover 2.3k Dimensions 194mmx296mmx278mm.

binebenta kc yan ng P4900. nd ko kc kabisado mga yan. balak ko lng panregalo.  salamat po.  :)



Let me put it this way...

Kung ako ang re-regaluhan mo niyan - I would be very happy! Ok?  ;D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: qguy on Jan 13, 2007 at 09:03 AM
Based on what you hear...if you like to listen while reading the specs.. go for the Wharfedale.. on the other hand, if you like to listen and enjoy listening buy the Aurum cantus....

specs are important.. but mind you, different manufacturers has different ways of presenting specs.. some adjust the specs to make it look prettier to the readers...


To all,

Thanks to all the replies on my inquiry, they were all very informative.

I need to ask your opinion again regarding wharfs and aurum cantus comparison, I have auditioned this 2 speakers about 2 weeks ago the diamond 9.2 and aurum cantus F5000R.

Both speakers sound good, though the aurum tends to disappear in front of me, but when I look at the specs medyo nagisip ako since the aurum freq range is 60Hz-20Khz compared to 45Hz-24Khz of 9.2. Also the aurum uses special paper material on the cone while the 9.2 uses kevlar. And the aurum is more hard driven than the wharf.

My question is, how important are this factors when buying a speaker. Sound wise parang mas advantage yung aurum though when I ask the salesman, di pa raw gaanong na break-in. Specification wise naman, advantage yung Wharfedale.

thanks . . .
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Jan 13, 2007 at 01:58 PM
I agree.  The specs tell only half the story.

Nevertheless, the specs are still useful.  I use the specs as a starting point.  After studying the specs, I go out and audition.

Sir arjunadas, go for the Aurum.  You say that it "tends to disappear in front of (you)".  A 3D effect on 2.0 channels is a characteristic of only the finest speakers.  On music, the effect can sometimes be even more stunning than multi-channel, since the 2.0 setup usually sounds more natural. If the Aurum sounds better to you, the Wharfe's better specs are meaningless.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: frequenzy on Jan 15, 2007 at 03:08 PM
mga sir tanong ko lang kung anung model ng wharfedale speakers ang bagay ikabit sa videoke. yung pang hyundai. Connected siya sa yamaha na AV. nabasa ko kasi kailngan ata ng ibang speakers kung balak gamitin sa videoke at HT. thanks.

kung di naman anu marecommend niyo brands na pwede pang videoke at HT. yung pang budget lng.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: s2kov on Jan 15, 2007 at 03:34 PM
pang videoke ng esmi ko wharfe 9.2! ;D


mga sir tanong ko lang kung anung model ng wharfedale speakers ang bagay ikabit sa videoke. yung pang hyundai. Connected siya sa yamaha na AV. nabasa ko kasi kailngan ata ng ibang speakers kung balak gamitin sa videoke at HT. thanks.

kung di naman anu marecommend niyo brands na pwede pang videoke at HT. yung pang budget lng.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: frequenzy on Jan 15, 2007 at 03:36 PM
salamat sa reply sir :-)
Title: Re: Wharfdale Diamond 9 HCP award
Post by: crenshaw on Jan 15, 2007 at 09:01 PM
sir san no po na demo yung diamond 9's tska missions?
Title: Wharfedale 9.4 or 9.5 for Marantz
Post by: gearhead on Jan 15, 2007 at 10:07 PM
i currently have a gale setup for my marantz. satisfied na rin sana ako dito, but my sister suddenly had a need for a budget setup. we sort of have agreed already that eto na lang speakers ko ang kukunin niya once makakuha ako ng replacement. she really doesn't want to spend more than what she budgeted for. so ako na lang mag-upgrade.  ;D i also don't wanna spend too much naman more than what i spent for the gales so i was  planning to go the wharfe direction.

i sort of have narrowed down my choice to the wharfe floorstanders. kung hindi lang maliit ang space ko i might have even gotten the dm9.6 for its mid driver. so now i am left with the 9.4 (single 6.5") and the 9.5 (dual 6.5"). anyone have any opinion of this combo with the marantz sr4500?
Title: Re: Wharfdale Diamond 9 HCP award
Post by: dannielsimone on Jan 16, 2007 at 08:55 AM
sir san no po na demo yung diamond 9's tska missions?

Crenshaw......can you please use english as I can only undrstand  tagalog..."conti lang".
Title: Re: Wharfdale Diamond 9 HCP award
Post by: skylynx888 on Jan 16, 2007 at 09:10 AM
bro dannielsimone, crenshaw wants to know where he can demo both the wharfs and mission  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale 9.4 or 9.5 for Marantz
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 16, 2007 at 11:04 AM
i sort of have narrowed down my choice to the wharfe floorstanders. kung hindi lang maliit ang space ko i might have even gotten the dm9.6 for its mid driver. so now i am left with the 9.4 (single 6.5") and the 9.5 (dual 6.5"). anyone have any opinion of this combo with the marantz sr4500?

You mentioned you have a small space, in my experience, floorstanders on a small space leads to boominess, w/c lessens your HT/audio experience by eating up your mids & highs.

Go for the single woofer FS or even BS is good enough since the subs take care of the LFE anyway. Personally, I have found it best to use small satellites & bookshelf speakers for entry level receivers. If you really insist on the FS, treat your room (corners) acoustically.

Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Jan 16, 2007 at 11:10 AM
mga sir tanong ko lang kung anung model ng wharfedale speakers ang bagay ikabit sa videoke. yung pang hyundai. Connected siya sa yamaha na AV. nabasa ko kasi kailngan ata ng ibang speakers kung balak gamitin sa videoke at HT. thanks.

kung di naman anu marecommend niyo brands na pwede pang videoke at HT. yung pang budget lng.
sir,
ang recommended speaker ay yung pang karaoke wharfedale kh800, kh1000 or kh1200
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: noreen_ on Jan 16, 2007 at 11:16 AM
thank you po!!!  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale 9.4 or 9.5 for Marantz
Post by: gearhead on Jan 16, 2007 at 12:34 PM
You mentioned you have a small space, in my experience, floorstanders on a small space leads to boominess, w/c lessens your HT/audio experience by eating up your mids & highs.

Go for the single woofer FS or even BS is good enough since the subs take care of the LFE anyway. Personally, I have found it best to use small satellites & bookshelf speakers for entry level receivers. If you really insist on the FS, treat your room (corners) acoustically.

Just my 2 cents.

thanks for the reply, bro. matz.

anyway, i don't plan na kasi to use speaker stands so i'm bypassing the 9.1, 9.2 and the 9.3 already. i currenty have the 3030 which is a floorstander with a 5.5" driver. di naman siya manipis tumunog though i think i can live with a little boominess, thus the 9.4. my plan is to use the speakers in SMALL mode and set the x'over to 80Hz on the AVR to lessen the boominess. (well, i can always set it to LARGE and see if i like the results, too).

but i'm also attracted to the separate low freq. woofer of the 9.5 and the mid driver of the 9.6. so my question also is which one will match well with the SR4500, given that both the wharfes and marantz are generally considered as warm sounding? which of the three is brighter sounding? TIA!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale 9.4 or 9.5 for Marantz
Post by: jeckjeck on Jan 16, 2007 at 01:42 PM
thanks for the reply, bro. matz.

anyway, i don't plan na kasi to use speaker stands so i'm bypassing the 9.1, 9.2 and the 9.3 already. i currenty have the 3030 which is a floorstander with a 5.5" driver. di naman siya manipis tumunog though i think i can live with a little boominess, thus the 9.4. my plan is to use the speakers in SMALL mode and set the x'over to 80Hz on the AVR to lessen the boominess. (well, i can always set it to LARGE and see if i like the results, too).

but i'm also attracted to the separate low freq. woofer of the 9.5 and the mid driver of the 9.6. so my question also is which one will match well with the SR4500, given that both the wharfes and marantz are generally considered as warm sounding? which of the three is brighter sounding? TIA!!!

as other members would suggest, let your ears enlighten you... why don't you either 1) bring your receiver to the audio shop so they can hook it up to the wharfes & audition or 2) talk to a nice shop owner like Sonny Tuazon to bring the speakers to your place so you can audition them at your own home (this would be the perfect option)...

me, I am very happy with my 9.5s paired with my Denon..  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale 9.4 or 9.5 for Marantz
Post by: gearhead on Jan 16, 2007 at 07:57 PM
hi, thanks... bro. jeck.

i do plan to audition the said speakers, but that may have to wait till saturday at least. so i'm asking for opinions beforehand so that i can concentrate in one or two of the mentioned speakers. i don't want to be a pain in the butt to wherever i may do the auditioning by lining up all three speakers... and then not liking anything. i have actually read the wharfedale thread from page 1 but so far is getting mixed results (more so the 9.4), though the positives outweigh the critical opinions (esp. the 9.6 and so is the 9.5, too). btw, is the denon more warm than bright in your opinion? is it of the same timbre as the marantz?

thanks again.

Title: Re: Wharfdale Diamond 9 HCP award
Post by: dannielsimone on Jan 17, 2007 at 07:06 AM
bro dannielsimone, crenshaw wants to know where he can demo both the wharfs and mission  ;)

Demo the Wharfs at "sights  and sounds" Shangrila plaza  and next door is the "audio vox" shop and you can demo the missions there.  But bring your own CD for the demo.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jeckjeck on Jan 17, 2007 at 07:55 AM
I've never had the opportunity yet to listen to a marantz-wharfe set up so I have no basis for comparing it to my current set up...  Denons are generally warm... well warmer compared to my Yamaha RX-V530 but Yammys are really known to be bright... Me, I am super happy with my 9.5s  ;D

Don't worry about the hassles with the shops. They know that audiotioning is necessary & they really wouldn't mind setting up the speakers for you... if you can go to the Salcedo Village area, I recommend you drop by The Home Theater... sir Sonny is very accomodating and very helpful AND super honest... let him know you are a member of PDVD  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Jan 17, 2007 at 12:12 PM
wait while i wipe my drool.  ;D i'm quite leaning towards the 9.5's, just waiting for affirmation from users. again, not that i don't like my gales.... but i just felt i could get a little more body with the 9.4/9.5's. i do plan of dropping by at the home theater this saturday. sa audio excellance sana, good (or bad) that i read here first wala na pala sila sa eastwood. thanks for the replies.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: AlvinladeN on Jan 18, 2007 at 10:33 PM
i auditioned both the aurum cantus f5000r and the 9.1, i was really planning to buy the 9.1 but the salesperson recommended the f5000r for the same price (p5.5k). for my ears its true that the sound "tends to disappear in front of you" but i think im getting more clarity on the 9.1. this is the first time i heard of aurum cantus brand (im a newbie in ht) and  the 9.1 looks better so i ended up buying the 9.1.

im not really sure if the 9.1 sounds better than the f5000r or maybe my ears are just biased on the 9.1 coz that is what im planning to get.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: odyoboy on Jan 19, 2007 at 07:00 PM
 
IMO many speakers in the market are very detail or clarity but a few can really image. One of the best gauge for a good speaker is 3D imaging (ability to disappear). Only a well designed speaker can do this. Imagine, your listening to you favorite music, its like being in a concert or croon by your favorite vocalist.
If I'm going to by a new speaker I will definitely go for 3D imaging, if your speaker can image well its a balance design speaker. Not bright, not boomy, no nasality etc and its not tiring (no listening fatigue) ;D ;D
Well that's me.
 :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale 9.4 or 9.5 for Marantz
Post by: accastil on Jan 20, 2007 at 01:00 PM
hi, thanks... bro. jeck.

i do plan to audition the said speakers, but that may have to wait till saturday at least. so i'm asking for opinions beforehand so that i can concentrate in one or two of the mentioned speakers. i don't want to be a pain in the butt to wherever i may do the auditioning by lining up all three speakers... and then not liking anything. i have actually read the wharfedale thread from page 1 but so far is getting mixed results (more so the 9.4), though the positives outweigh the critical opinions (esp. the 9.6 and so is the 9.5, too). btw, is the denon more warm than bright in your opinion? is it of the same timbre as the marantz?

thanks again.
for an experienced ear, marantz tend to sound a bit bright. pairing it with a wharf diamond BS would not be wise. what i would recommned to you for marantz is a mordaunt short or a gale floorstand speaker pair. try audition the MS502THX. this is good for both music and ht and you dont have to buy a separate sub. this is a bass shaker in itself


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: acostaml on Jan 22, 2007 at 08:10 AM
I went with the 9.4. Super happy with it! Im using a HK AVR 335  to power it.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: AlvinladeN on Jan 22, 2007 at 09:58 PM
just wondering.. when i check the prices of wharfedale 9 series on some online stores the price is waaaay to high compared to the prices here. like the 9.1s, prices online ranges from $190-$300 but the price here is just P5.5k.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Jan 24, 2007 at 02:19 PM
9.4 - P9,700
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/94.gif)

9.5 - P12,500
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/95.gif)

Is this price updated? Is this for the pair of speakers already? Anybody who knows where a 9.4 or 9.5 is available for auditioning?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jeckjeck on Jan 24, 2007 at 03:06 PM
oreoshake,

got to SGT The Home Theater and look for Sir Sonny Tuazon or his son Butch... they will be more than happy to let you audition these babies... also, I believe the prices there may be a few hundred pesos lower...  ;D

You may want to call first... 8138443
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: allenwfc on Jan 24, 2007 at 03:10 PM
Is this price updated? Is this for the pair of speakers already? Anybody who knows where a 9.4 or 9.5 is available for auditioning?

that is the approximate price,

some shops sell it cheaper, some a bit more.

ambassador, spectra, audible illusion and most other audio shops have it.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Jun_P on Jan 24, 2007 at 06:29 PM
just wondering.. when i check the prices of wharfedale 9 series on some online stores the price is waaaay to high compared to the prices here. like the 9.1s, prices online ranges from $190-$300 but the price here is just P5.5k.

last i checked at Ambassador 5.5k pesos is the price for the 9.1 fronts. A set complete is about 17.5k which will consist of the fronts, center, surrounds and subwoofer (i think)... but this was around November last year pa..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: allenwfc on Jan 24, 2007 at 06:31 PM
last i checked at Ambassador 5.5k pesos is the price for the 9.1 fronts. A set complete is about 17.5k which will consist of the fronts, center, surrounds and subwoofer (i think)... but this was around November last year pa..

yes that is their srp price, but ambassador is always willing to lower prices especially if cash.
they are a "haggle" friendly store haha
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Jan 24, 2007 at 08:33 PM
A friend is selling his audio system for 40K:
Harman Kardon AV 235 7.1 CH
Wharfedale 9.1 x 4
Wharfedale 9.CS
Wharfedale SW 150
Philips DVP 642K

Is this a good buy already? Only used for 8 months...  :) :) :)  Although I would really prefer a 9.4 or 9.5...  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Jan 24, 2007 at 08:40 PM
well. as the masters here say.... audition, audition, audition - and let your ears decide.

we did audition the diamond 9.5 just this evening, and all i can say for now is..... these are quite MELODIOUS speakers. will elaborate on that maybe later, but i guess you already get what i mean.

just one question though for those with the complete diamond 9 setup... is it true the 9.DFS is only available in black? anyone here got a different color for these bipoles?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Jan 24, 2007 at 08:41 PM
that is the approximate price, some shops sell it cheaper, some a bit more. ambassador, spectra, audible illusion and most other audio shops have it.

Thanks..

oreoshake, go to SGT The Home Theater and look for Sir Sonny Tuazon or his son Butch... they will be more than happy to let you audition these babies... also, I believe the prices there may be a few hundred pesos lower...  ;D  You may want to call first... 8138443

Thanks.. Planning to upgrade my audio gears in a few months..  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: acostaml on Jan 24, 2007 at 11:06 PM
A friend is selling his audio system for 40K:
Harman Kardon AV 235 7.1 CH
Wharfedale 9.1 x 4
Wharfedale 9.CS
Wharfedale SW 150
Philips DVP 642K

Is this a good buy already? Only used for 8 months...  :) :) :)  Although I would really prefer a 9.4 or 9.5...  :) :) :)

pwede na to!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: skylynx888 on Jan 24, 2007 at 11:10 PM
just one question though for those with the complete diamond 9 setup... is it true the 9.DFS is only available in black? anyone here got a different color for these bipoles?

you got it right bro, black lang talaga  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Jan 24, 2007 at 11:14 PM
taking it from where i left off:

it really wasn't a thorough audition. just like in american idol (of which i am watching right now), it doesn't take too much to know whether the thing will blow or it would cut the grade. we just gave the person in charge the demo cd that we brought along, sat back, relaxed and listened.

"hey, mister.... can you turn off the subwoofer please? we need to hear what these babies can do unassisted," we both said.

"sir, there is no subwoofer. they are all turned off." came the quick reply.

"they are? sweeeet!!! just the low end that we were missing with my current solo 5.5" driver".

"and wow... those tweets do sound like the soft dome that they are. not grating, but not shy either. the mids may not be that up front, but only because we were comparing it with other much brighter speakers."

"hmmmm.... for P12.5 quid, that is money very very very well spent. i guess we found our next baby."

case closed.

Quote
you got it right bro, black lang talaga
.

well, there goes my color matching. any wood experts here???  :'(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Jan 25, 2007 at 10:06 PM
A friend is selling his audio system for 40K:
Harman Kardon AV 235 7.1 CH
Wharfedale 9.1 x 4
Wharfedale 9.CS
Wharfedale SW 150
Philips DVP 642K

Is this a good buy already? Only used for 8 months...  :) :) :)  Although I would really prefer a 9.4 or 9.5...  :) :) :)

Quoting my own message:   :) :) :)

Overkill na ba na ginamit ng friend ko as surrounds ung dalawang 9.1?  I auditioned them tonight and his audio system really rocks.. but then I really would like a 9.4, 9,5 or 9.6... Anybody who can tell me the difference between 9.5 and 9.6 in terms of sound quality? 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: skylynx888 on Jan 25, 2007 at 10:35 PM
quoted price seems ok. D naman po overkill ang 9.1 for surrounds  ;D ;D, tamang tama lang. im using my old 8.3 as my back surrounds.
9.6 for me is perfect [ lalo na din sa price ], currently using hk335 to power it. Best thing to do is demo both 9.5 and 9.6 with hk235, then decide. Sabi ng mga gurus dito baka kukulangin sa power ang 235, but then again, you ears will have the last say.  ;)

And if you are really inclined on getting either 9.5/9.6, go for it, buy the 40k package, then use the 2pairs of 9.1 as your side and back surrounds, kumplete na agad 7.1 setup mo. CHEERS (http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b313/skylynx888/TM4.gif)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Jan 26, 2007 at 07:39 AM
quoted price seems ok. D naman po overkill ang 9.1 for surrounds  ;D ;D, tamang tama lang. im using my old 8.3 as my back surrounds.
9.6 for me is perfect [ lalo na din sa price ], currently using hk335 to power it. Best thing to do is demo both 9.5 and 9.6 with hk235, then decide. Sabi ng mga gurus dito baka kukulangin sa power ang 235, but then again, you ears will have the last say.  ;)

And if you are really inclined on getting either 9.5/9.6, go for it, buy the 40k package, then use the 2pairs of 9.1 as your side and back surrounds, kumplete na agad 7.1 setup mo. CHEERS (http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b313/skylynx888/TM4.gif)

thanks...  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Jan 26, 2007 at 09:08 AM
now i get why the 9.dfs is only in black. from the pictures, mukhang it's all grille yata.

[EDIT] or is it? if only i can match the dfs with the others.

(http://www.hifix.co.uk/graphics/pics/normal/104603.jpg)

anyway, isang tulog na lang before my 9.5's arrive. now i realize - diamonds are men's best friend, too.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 26, 2007 at 10:59 AM
Quoting my own message:   :) :) :)

Overkill na ba na ginamit ng friend ko as surrounds ung dalawang 9.1?  I auditioned them tonight and his audio system really rocks.. but then I really would like a 9.4, 9,5 or 9.6... Anybody who can tell me the difference between 9.5 and 9.6 in terms of sound quality? 

The extra midrange woofer of 9.6 will give you wonders sa vocals and dialogue.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Jan 26, 2007 at 12:34 PM
The extra midrange woofer of 9.6 will give you wonders sa vocals and dialogue.

I see.. Im into movies more than audio kasi.. Puwede na siguro isa lang subwoofer (SW 150 or SW 250) for an audio set consisting of : HK 235, 9.5 or 9.6 x 2, 9.CM, 9.1 x 4 as surrounds and rear speakers? or do i get the HK 335? Magkano ba ngayon ang HK 335?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: acostaml on Jan 26, 2007 at 12:41 PM
I see.. Im into movies more than audio kasi.. Puwede na siguro isa lang subwoofer (SW 150 or SW 250) for an audio set consisting of : HK 235, 9.5 or 9.6 x 2, 9.CM, 9.1 x 4 as surrounds and rear speakers? or do i get the HK 335? Magkano ba ngayon ang HK 335?

I think its around 30K
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 27, 2007 at 02:25 PM
HK335 na kunin mo for your 9.6. In my experience, FS (specially multi driver ones) sound great with higher level gears. mapapa  :o :o :o ka sa difference.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Jan 28, 2007 at 03:53 PM
wow... my diamond 9.5's are sounding better and better with every listen. as what matzter has said, they sounded boomy at first right out of the box and as placed in the corners. after some fiddling with the placement i think i have found a sweet spot for it.

listening to music, sub is becoming more of an option. it's fine without it, but powering my cht-10 added some weight to the low end. it can be overpowering at times so i'm still trying to get the right balance. been testing them in stereo mode as of now as my tv is currently busted.  :'( (that flat panel display keeps getting attractive day by day).
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: AlvinladeN on Jan 29, 2007 at 10:37 PM
what do you guys think is the next upgrade from a diamond 9.1?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Jan 30, 2007 at 05:27 AM
what do you guys think is the next upgrade from a diamond 9.1?

b&w601 or 602; if you wana go higher- castle dynaudio epos

if you mean "upsize" - go for the 9.5 or 9.6

note: pag nag-upgrade / upsize ka, be aware that your current audio components (amp/source cd/ic/speaker cables) may not be up to the task in terms of matching with your new speakers. baka di kayanin ng powers!?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Jan 30, 2007 at 07:20 AM
now i get why the 9.dfs is only in black. from the pictures, mukhang it's all grille yata.

[EDIT] or is it? if only i can match the dfs with the others.

(http://www.hifix.co.uk/graphics/pics/normal/104603.jpg)

anyway, isang tulog na lang before my 9.5's arrive. now i realize - diamonds are men's best friend, too.  ;D

Pre, how's your 9.5's?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: torque on Jan 30, 2007 at 08:38 AM
what do you guys think is the next upgrade from a diamond 9.1?

Bro, upgrade agad? di ba kabibili mo lang ng 9.1...
Hintayin na lang namin sa buy and sell ang diamond mo if ever you decide to sell it... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Jan 30, 2007 at 09:23 AM
Pre, how's your 9.5's?

hi brother oreo.

i couldn't be happier with my setup now. as i've said, it keeps getting better with every listen. i should say my previous gales have more clarity, but the 9.5/9.cs's have more weight to them. this isn't to say they are muddy... coz without the direct comparison you wouldn't know the difference. as it is, i really haven't felt the need to add to the treble (nor the bass). i just keep everything flat. i have now all the excuse i need to go home early. hope my tv gets fixed soon to add another more compelling reason in braving rush hour traffic.

anyway, is the setup you posted still for sale? if they are still fresh looking i guess it is a good starter set. as what skylynx in the previous page said, you can get the whole system, add a 9.5/9.6 and make it a full 7.1 if you have the space for it. otherwise, you can just make the extra set of the 9.1 into a separate audio setup. one other option is to post the extra 9.1 in the b/s thread here.

i haven't heard other combinations, but the marantz might be one of the more warm sounding amp out there. my initial apprehensions though about the marantz/wharfe combo is largely unfounded. the diamond 9.cs can give out clear dialogue even with this amp. still, i think this speakers may go along really well with bright amps like the yamahas.

one other thing about speaker sensitivity. my gale 3030's are 90db fronts, and the 9.5's are 88db... but i could say that there's not much of a difference to speak of loudness wise. initially i have one 9.5 on the left channel and a 3030 to the right. there's a really slight balance towards the left even. i just confirmed it with the full diamond fronts and still the gales at the  rear. it now sounded as if i have lost my rears, even as i could hear sound coming out of them if i moved my ear closer.

if you do get the 9.5's, take the extra effort in siting them. it will make a lot of difference how far to the walls you place them or how much toe in you position them. also, i think it takes some more effort to matching it with your subs as opposed to bookshelfs, but it can be done.


good luck.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: AlvinladeN on Jan 30, 2007 at 09:50 PM
Bro, upgrade agad? di ba kabibili mo lang ng 9.1...
Hintayin na lang namin sa buy and sell ang diamond mo if ever you decide to sell it... ;D

hehe hindi naman.. just for the sake of curiosity lang  ;D satisfied pa rin naman ako so far  :)

Quote from: Oweida
b&w601 or 602; if you wana go higher- castle dynaudio epos

thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Feb 11, 2007 at 12:00 PM
just wanna ask for opinions:

i have the 9.dfs as surround for my all wharfe setup. i bought it sight unseen and somehow not so excited by it's all black color though. so i'm looking to replace it with either a 9.sr or the 9.1.

i know the 9.1 will have better sonics than the smaller 9.sr, though i might have a difficulty with siting for the 9.1's greater depth. anyone with experience with the 9.sr? better yet, someone having the chance to compare the 9.dfs and the 9.sr? will i be losing anything going from one to the other?

TIA.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: maximusIII on Feb 12, 2007 at 04:39 AM
how do you find the dfs. i'm in the market for surrounds but can not decide whether to get monopole bookshelf or dipoles thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Feb 12, 2007 at 08:06 PM
hi maximus.... i think you're the one looking for a used dfs right?

anyway, my desire to replace my dfs isn't borne of it's sonic quality, but more of aesthetics. previously i had a matched gale setup in beech all around. i really like how that set complemented the color of my cabinets. now i have the wharfe 9.5/9.cs in rosewood with the exception of the dfs w/c is only available in black locally.

sonically, they are timbre matched to the other speakers. i have tested it with the avia and it can go as low as @95Hz, so i set it to small with a 100hz x'over. no complaints soundwise.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mojako on Feb 19, 2007 at 01:01 PM
may diamond 9.0 ba available dito sa pinas?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Feb 20, 2007 at 10:38 AM
may diamond 9.0 ba available dito sa pinas?
sir,
wala po nabbili na hiwalay
nsa isang set po ang 9.0
nsa 9hcp po yun, include 9.0 9cc 9sr sw100
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mojako on Feb 20, 2007 at 04:53 PM
aah.  thanks spectra!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: paolorenzo on Mar 02, 2007 at 09:37 AM
 :'(  Help...

Nahulog yung isang 9.1 ko, and nabali yung isang binding post.

Baka meron kayo alam/kilala na meron spare parts?  Baka meron sa inyong sirang Diamond 9 na buo pa ang bi-wire binding posts?  Same lang yata ang bi-wire binding posts ng Diamond 9?

Or baka meron kayo alam na gumagawa ng speakers sa Ortigas/Pasig-Cainta area?  Yung mabilisan (at mura) lang sana.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 02, 2007 at 10:14 AM
Try Golden Mars sa Raon.

or this:

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=33445.0 (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=33445.0)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Ferl on Mar 10, 2007 at 07:20 PM
Boys and Girls,

Got news talaga dito na Diamond 9 initially Black color daw meron..

Center - P4,500
Surround RS - P3,800
9.1 - P5,000
9.2 - P7,000
9.3 - P8,200
9.4 - P9,700
9.5 - P12,500
9.6 - Wala hehehehe

Got price from Spectra JIM

Bili bili na ako ng center wowowowow ;D ;D

any new update from the mentioned prices above? magkana na po ba ito ngayon at pa dagdag po 9CM
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Mrk on Mar 29, 2007 at 08:15 AM
gonna be buying the 9.1 this weekend yahhoooo!!! :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: John E. on Mar 29, 2007 at 09:14 AM
 :D congrats! these are fine pair of speakers!

looks wise, budget wise and performance!

 ;) enjoy your diamonds MrK !
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: CocoBoy on Mar 30, 2007 at 08:54 AM
OO nga, congrats.  I have the 9.1 bi-wired with a Yamaha receiver, got it back in december, and true enough, bang for the buck din tong bookshelf na 2.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Lantis on Mar 30, 2007 at 09:17 AM
Recently bought a set from SGT:

Wharfedale 9SR
Wharfedale 9.5
Wharfedale 9cs

... and Velodyne VX10 for the subs.   Just so excited it will be installed tomorrow!  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: John E. on Mar 30, 2007 at 09:31 AM
OO nga, congrats.  I have the 9.1 bi-wired with a Yamaha receiver, got it back in december, and true enough, bang for the buck din tong bookshelf na 2.




 ;D true, im happy with my bi-wired 9.2 and yamaha ;D



Recently bought a set from SGT:

Wharfedale 9SR
Wharfedale 9.5
Wharfedale 9cs

... and Velodyne VX10 for the subs.   Just so excited it will be installed tomorrow!  ;D ;D ;D




nice set-up ! congrats!

lantis feedback naman sa VX-10 II  ;D

thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Lantis on Apr 02, 2007 at 03:32 PM

lantis feedback naman sa VX-10 II  ;D

thanks!

Still have problems setting up my HT, will update you in the Velo thread kung ok na  ;D

OT, how much can you crank the volume (in dB) in breaking-in the Wharfs?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Apr 02, 2007 at 04:14 PM
OT, how much can you crank the volume (in dB) in breaking-in the Wharfs?

I don't think your Wharfes will need any break-in period.  I've strained to notice any discernible difference that a break-in period can give to main, center and surround speakers, but I've found no improvement.

But for subwoofers, it's a different story.  Subs improve appreciably after break-in.   
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Mrk on Apr 03, 2007 at 02:05 PM
alin mas ok yung 9.1 or 9.2??

parang mas marami kasi akong nabasa mas maganda ang 9.1 kaya yun ang binili ko

never get the chance to audition the 9.2

but so far im happy with my 9.1
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: psychodreamer on Apr 04, 2007 at 03:42 AM
I got the chance to listen to the 9.2s yesterday, and it sounded nice at moderate volumes.  However, I noticed that it easily bottoms out when driven hard.  I can't compare it to the 9.1s though, as I wasn't able to hear it.

As for the 9.3s, it was an altogether different experience.  Nakakabilib ang consistency even at very high volumes. It also packed a good punch, even without a sub. Well, understandably so, since it has a large driver.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Ferl on Apr 12, 2007 at 07:55 AM
ask lang po kung mag kano ang latest price ng 9.4,9.2 at 9cm.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: scoob on Apr 27, 2007 at 01:45 AM
Has anyone here tried using the 9.SR as fronts?  Any comments?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Jun 02, 2007 at 06:48 PM
after having 2 systems already (an entry level marantz/gale, and now an hk/wharf combo), i have come to realize the futility of trying to have an all-in-one system. both my previous setup played well in movies and concert dvd's, but i really haven't warmed up to them in music listening except perhaps for some audiophile demo discs. i find more satisfaction listening to the radio or playing p-cd's on our old 3-in-1 20 watter pioneer with 2-way bookshelves.

it's not that i'm unhappy with my d9.5's... to the contrary i'm very much satisfied with it. it's that for my needs i find it too much already. in movies, i usually set the fronts to small so you don't really get to use the 9.5's low freq abilities. so i guess if you have a good sub, you will be perfectly happy with a d9.2 for better soundstaging probably. a good speaker stand is only about 2k so a 9.2 with stand will only come out to 9k. then you can afford to have the 9.1's for surrounds.

just rambling here.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on Jun 04, 2007 at 12:42 PM
Got 9.5 but found n manipis ang bass compared to my Paradigm Studio ref 60 v2. comparing the two height is almost same, depth mas malalim Ref 60 weight 16 kgs 9.5/30 kls an st60. You need sub to feel the lower end.

Here's the pix side by side medyo malabo lang kuha:
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/audiojunkie_album/PARWAF.jpg)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ar_b78 on Jun 05, 2007 at 02:37 PM
hi guys newbie here  :)

i was convinced to buy a pair of 9.1s yesterday because they sounded so good when i auditioned in a shop in makati cinema square. they guy from the shop said that it would sound great if i hook it up to my NAD 304 amp.

so when i got home, i hooked it up and it didn't sound as good as it is in the shop. is my amp a bad match for it?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Chito C. on Jun 05, 2007 at 02:44 PM
Baka kasi underpowered yung NAD 304 (35 watts). Pwede din room acoustics. Take note na maganda talaga sound sa audio shops dahil treated yung room. Break-in mo muna yung 9.1.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ar_b78 on Jun 05, 2007 at 02:59 PM
Baka kasi underpowered yung NAD 304 (35 watts). Pwede din room acoustics. Take note na maganda talaga sound sa audio shops dahil treated yung room. Break-in mo muna yung 9.1.

ok. thanks! i'll try to change the location of the amp and speakers.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: threadlock on Jun 06, 2007 at 04:49 PM
mga gurus, saan pong stores merong wharfedale 9 series?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Jun 06, 2007 at 06:08 PM
hi guys newbie here  :)

i was convinced to buy a pair of 9.1s yesterday because they sounded so good when i auditioned in a shop in makati cinema square. they guy from the shop said that it would sound great if i hook it up to my NAD 304 amp.

so when i got home, i hooked it up and it didn't sound as good as it is in the shop. is my amp a bad match for it?

assuming brand 9.1 new unit inuwi mo, try to "break-in" that unit (*note - not all audiophiles subscribe to this "burn-in/break-in" thing)

aside from different room acoustics, there are other factors. different gears used to partner with 9.1 sa demo room (amp/source (cd), interconnects and speaker wire) so talagang magkaiba ang tunog. ex. pag pinartner sa mid-end amps/cd/ics/spkr wires, chances are iba talaga ang dating kesa nad304+9.1 combi.

best thing talaga is home audition. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Miguel^ on Jun 07, 2007 at 12:35 PM
mga gurus, saan pong stores merong wharfedale 9 series?

kay spectra @ parksquare makati
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ar_b78 on Jun 07, 2007 at 09:18 PM
mga gurus, saan pong stores merong wharfedale 9 series?

got mine from ambassador park square 1 for 5500. no additional charges pag credit card. dun sa spectra 5800 pag card
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: threadlock on Jun 08, 2007 at 10:49 AM
just got from Spectra Park Square 1 yung 9.1 5.5K nga, yung 9.2 7K(mas malaki to compared sa 9.1 at same wattage), yung WH2 package 4K
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Lucky7 on Jun 10, 2007 at 12:03 PM
AR

Anong amp ang gamit mo sa shop during your audition?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Miguel^ on Jun 10, 2007 at 12:40 PM
correct me if I'm wrong, pero walang gears si ambassador para sa audition. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ar_b78 on Jun 11, 2007 at 08:29 AM
AR

Anong amp ang gamit mo sa shop during your audition?


forgot the brand. its not a known brand kasi. if you have time, try to go to watt hifi in mcs to audition
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dj on Jun 11, 2007 at 12:17 PM
correct me if I'm wrong, pero walang gears si ambassador para sa audition. 
yep wala nga audition don kaya mura daw sila unfair naman sa nagpapaaudition tapos dun ka bibili. ot. pagwharfes alam ko dapat ke spectra ;D at sgt ;D para di ot ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Lucky7 on Jun 13, 2007 at 11:16 AM
AR,

The wharf is dark in character but very musical.The NAD sound is warm and imo the combination is too warm and dull.I have a vintage NAD two channel receiver in the bed room and a pair of paradigm atom and the sound is very good.The atom is bright so perfect talaga sa NAD.I recommend a bright sounding amp for wharf like rotel, denon etc.Sa NAD dapat bright speakers like MA,B&W,Paradigm etc.If you are not satisfied you can try changing you IC and speaker wires to silver instead of copper cuz silver sounds a bit bright.Also I agree that you should play around the positioning of the speakers and room acoustics.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Jun 13, 2007 at 12:17 PM
yep wala nga audition don kaya mura daw sila unfair naman sa nagpapaaudition tapos dun ka bibili. ot. pagwharfes alam ko dapat ke spectra ;D at sgt ;D para di ot ;D

Yan din ang problema ko.

Audition ako sa Spectra, ayos ang service.  Matiyaga si Niño sa makulit na customers  :D. Tanong ako sa Ambassador, mas mura ang presyo pero walang audition.  Na-guilty naman ako bumili sa Ambassador dahil napagod na si Niño sa akin.  Balik ako sa Spectra, tanong ako kung kaya nila mag price-match sa Ambassador.  Nag discount si Spectra, pero hindi pa rin kaya ang price match.

Sa Spectra pa rin ako bumili kahit mas mahal nang konti.   ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ar_b78 on Jun 15, 2007 at 04:01 PM
yep wala nga audition don kaya mura daw sila unfair naman sa nagpapaaudition tapos dun ka bibili. ot. pagwharfes alam ko dapat ke spectra ;D at sgt ;D para di ot ;D


they offered to test the speakers before i bought them.  :) :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lgas on Jun 27, 2007 at 04:16 PM
hey guys, im new here in forum, i got diamond 9.5 serries, front and i used yamaha rxv 457 6.1 channel cenima dsp..it sounds great, very much talaga, much na much sa presyong mura, i bought it last december 2006  here in cebu at sm city, and im enjoying it..bili na kayo mga dudes..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: John E. on Jun 28, 2007 at 10:03 AM
hey guys, im new here in forum, i got diamond 9.5 serries, front and i used yamaha rxv 457 6.1 channel cenima dsp..it sounds great, very much talaga, much na much sa presyong mura, i bought it last december 2006  here in cebu at sm city, and im enjoying it..bili na kayo mga dudes..

 ;) good for you lgas! that's a good choice of combination.

great to hear that our HT fans are enjoying wharfs and yamahas in cebu!

cheers!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Jul 02, 2007 at 01:13 PM
connected my 9cs to the receiver using 1 pair of the connectors only with out the binding post. did i damage the speakers?


hope not?!  ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: saltuhin on Jul 02, 2007 at 06:13 PM
hi asul,

if you are referring to the metal straps or jumpers used to connect the speakers in single wire configuration, you have nothing to worry. you wont be damaging your speaker that way. the only downside is you wont be able to hear the full spectrum of the sound depending on where you were able to make the connection, be it on bass or high.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: allan1836 on Jul 03, 2007 at 06:39 PM
Full spectrum of the sound can still be achieve since the metal straps (jumpers) are there to act as cables or wires too. They are use to connect the high pass filter of the crossover with low pass filter, thus connecting a single run of speaker wire from the amp to just 1 set of post (either the upper or lower binding post) will amplify already both the tweeter and woofer.

The only difference with bi-wiring ( 2 runs of speaker wire coming from the amp) is that you can tone the sound of the tweeter and woofer individually if you'll be using 2 different sets or brand of speaker wire. Also, as claimed by others, the resistance and isolation difference of bi-wiring causes sonic improvements, which is, IMHO debatable.

For me, a good speaker doesn't need biwire.  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: saltuhin on Jul 04, 2007 at 09:51 PM
Full spectrum of the sound can still be achieve since the metal straps (jumpers) are there to act as cables or wires too. They are use to connect the high pass filter of the crossover with low pass filter, thus connecting a single run of speaker wire from the amp to just 1 set of post (either the upper or lower binding post) will amplify already both the tweeter and woofer.

The only difference with bi-wiring ( 2 runs of speaker wire coming from the amp) is that you can tone the sound of the tweeter and woofer individually if you'll be using 2 different sets or brand of speaker wire. Also, as claimed by others, the resistance and isolation difference of bi-wiring causes sonic improvements, which is, IMHO debatable.

For me, a good speaker doesn't need biwire.  ;)

hi allan,

feel free to try this at home. first remove the metal straps or jumpers and connect your speaker wires to the high pass section only, you will notice the absence of bass in your system if you are using only bookshelf speakers. if you connect it the other way around or through the bass or lf section only, the highs would be the ones missing.

the two sets of binding posts are for the two traces on the pcb going to the low pass and and high pass sections on the passive crossover.

what i was explaining to asul is that there was no harm done even when he was not able to connect the jumper, its just he wont be able to get the full spectrum since he will be operating either one- high or low. in order to go full range the jumper must be connected.

just explaining my thoughts.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on Jul 05, 2007 at 06:17 AM
Bi-wiring won't give much better results, go for Bi-amping if have means.... 8)  8) IMHO... ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lgas on Jul 05, 2007 at 09:39 AM
to audiojunkie my wharfedale diamond 9.5 doesnt look like the same as your pics, the breather of my 9.5 is at the back, and the color of my speaker is battle green, try this site, www.wharfedale.co.uk  and look for your speaker, you will notice that your speaker is totally different from their picture, my wharfedale looks just  like their pictures...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: allan1836 on Jul 05, 2007 at 01:38 PM
hi saltuhin,

My mistake there, I thought ASuL has the binding post connected when he use just a single run of speaker wire. Yes, that will obviously be the result if the binding post be disconnected. Cheers!  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on Jul 06, 2007 at 07:08 AM
to audiojunkie my wharfedale diamond 9.5 doesnt look like the same as your pics, the breather of my 9.5 is at the back, and the color of my speaker is battle green, try this site, www.wharfedale.co.uk  and look for your speaker, you will notice that your speaker is totally different from their picture, my wharfedale looks just  like their pictures...

Paradigm (Studio Reference 60 v2)
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/audiojunkie_album/ST60.jpg)
Studio Ref 60v2 and Diamond 9.5 (malabo celfon cam kasi ala flash)
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/audiojunkie_album/PARWAF.jpg)
[/quote]

Lgas, On this pic take notice that the 9.5 is on the right side. Black ash laminated color and the breather is same as yours at the back. On the left is Paradigm Studio Ref 60v2.

Hope this clear up the confusion... ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lgas on Jul 06, 2007 at 08:31 AM
nice speaker bro, i've known from my friends about that speaker has superb performance, but more expensive than wharfedale, what amplifier you use for your wharfedale, each type of speaker performance depends on the amplifier, wires, and players. i have learned that european speakers were made for natural sound output, that's why i bought a yamaha amplifier rxv 457 6.1, coz yamaha are known as natural sound, and yes it satisfied my taste, wharfedale and yamaha did work great, that's what i hved experienced, but remember bro that each person has different kind of preference when it come's to sound, great sounds is in the ears of the beholder...hehehehe..but honestly.. i like the sound of b&w, i just cant afford that much of price just for the sound system, even though im an audio addict, hehehe,
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: yvesjae on Jul 06, 2007 at 01:36 PM
i got a pair of 9.4 and noticed that their output is not balanced. the right speaker is louder than the left. i checked the level in the avr and both are set to the same level.

is it normal for speakers of the same model not being able to produce the same amount of volume?
are there any possible problems causing this behavior?
any tweaks to fix this?

thanks in advanced.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Jul 06, 2007 at 01:46 PM
have you tried swapping the speaker's placement, like left->right and vice versa? maybe your hearing is a bit compromised already (as i probably am), or the avr balance is the one out of whack too. try the more simple solutions first... although we're not discounting the possibility that your speakers may have different sensitivities. manufacturing tolerances, you know.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on Jul 07, 2007 at 04:39 AM
i got a pair of 9.4 and noticed that their output is not balanced. the right speaker is louder than the left. i checked the level in the avr and both are set to the same level.

is it normal for speakers of the same model not being able to produce the same amount of volume?
are there any possible problems causing this behavior?
any tweaks to fix this?

thanks in advanced.

Try to adjust in your AVR if it has an option....  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: John E. on Jul 07, 2007 at 05:31 AM
yup, try adjusting the balance of your speakers... ;)

front right .....||.....

front left .....||.....

or adjust when you test tone.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on Jul 07, 2007 at 12:52 PM
nice speaker bro, i've known from my friends about that speaker has superb performance, but more expensive than wharfedale, what amplifier you use for your wharfedale, each type of speaker performance depends on the amplifier, wires, and players. i have learned that european speakers were made for natural sound output, that's why i bought a yamaha amplifier rxv 457 6.1, coz yamaha are known as natural sound, and yes it satisfied my taste, wharfedale and yamaha did work great, that's what i hved experienced, but remember bro that each person has different kind of preference when it come's to sound, great sounds is in the ears of the beholder...hehehehe..but honestly.. i like the sound of b&w, i just cant afford that much of price just for the sound system, even though im an audio addict, hehehe,

Yes, bro ... the price now of digm 3x the price of whafe....  :(  :(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: yasmine_leigh on Jul 09, 2007 at 03:56 PM
Is it possible to connect these speakers dirrectly in the dvd player with built-in amp since I'm running out of budget to buy a decent AVR?  Ipon muna ako for a good AVR???  Hindi po ba masisira ung speakers???

Thanks...Newbie here
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: John E. on Jul 10, 2007 at 05:33 AM
you would need an avr (audio video receiver ) or amplifier to power these types of speakers.

your dvd player will not be able to drive these types of speakers.

ipon ka nalang ng kaunti pa to be able to buy an avr to power your speakers.

meron din lower priced avrs such as sakura or konzert (check-out PDVD's buy and sell section). ;)

goodluck and happy hunting! ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Jul 11, 2007 at 09:06 AM
Is it possible to connect these speakers dirrectly in the dvd player with built-in amp since I'm running out of budget to buy a decent AVR?  Ipon muna ako for a good AVR???  Hindi po ba masisira ung speakers???

Thanks...Newbie here

you would need an avr (audio video receiver ) or amplifier to power these types of speakers.

your dvd player will not be able to drive these types of speakers.

ipon ka nalang ng kaunti pa to be able to buy an avr to power your speakers.

meron din lower priced avrs such as sakura or konzert (check-out PDVD's buy and sell section). ;)

goodluck and happy hunting! ;D

yes... given that you're in a budget, the sakura might be a better option than driving them with your dvd player. kaya lang, for sure later on, baka mag-upgrade ka din naman sayang lang. as everybody here says, save up na lang for a decent ht setup and it will be more cost effective that way. for the meantime, you can still watch dvd pa rin naman just use your tv audio na lang muna. at least their speakers are properly driven.

maybe you can post your needs and target budget in the more ht related threads here... for sure many members would be glad to give you clear and sound (pun intended  ;D) advice.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Jul 22, 2007 at 09:53 AM
just got a diamond 9.6 and now in the breaking-in process. first time i heard it, was still a bit muddy. gave it the chance to play some more and now is beginning to sound sweet. really, this speaker lives and dies by its mid hf driver. it's what gives this pair the balanced sound which is its main selling point.

with my hk5550 as the common source, i will still say my diamond 9.5 the more bang for the buck pair from the whole diamond 9 line up. it's sensitive enough and easier to drive than the 9.6. i also like the former's bass response - tight and engaging. the 9.6 is a bit timid but can go low if asked to, but i think will benefit from a more powerful amp in the order of 130w or more (like the bada sir matz is offering.  ;) ). the hk5550 is an 85wpc when in stereo mode, but if i crank up the volume a bit harder... the sound becomes brighter and the amp seems to be running in saturation mode. good thing you really don't need to crank this baby up as the midfreq would be too overpowering. in a comfortable listening volume, the sound is full, sweet and balanced. gives just the right subtlety to music.

same in the multi-channel setup. so if anyone's planning to get the 9.6, i suggest you invest too in a high power amp to be used for both music and movies. that way, you might just need to get one of the entry-level avr of say, yamaha to be the decoder and center/rear driver, and let the front speakers run off the higher powered amp.

p.s. - about 5 hrs more from posting the above comments... with the hk5550 and wharf 9.6 continuously playing, the whole system is really beginning to open up. gone is the confused sound that greeted me when i first powered the unit on. i'm now the one being confused whether i would like to use it more for HT or more on music.   ???   :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: allan1836 on Jul 22, 2007 at 11:26 PM
gearhead, you guessed it right. The 9.6 really shines with a powerful amp. I read a review comparing it with a mega buck Genesis flr. stand speaker with almost the same speaker configuration with a dome midrange too and the reviewer was really impressed with the 9.6, specially for its price. Using a powerful amp, the reviewer noted the deep bass the 9.6 can deliver and actually commented that the overall sound is not far fetched from the genesis which is  around 6x its price I think.
By the way, did you buy your 9.6 new or used. How much is the going price for a used unit? Tnx  ;)   
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Jul 23, 2007 at 01:56 PM
i bought mine used from a fellow pdvd member here. let's just say he gave it to me at a price i can't resist.  ;) the unit is in mint condition, not perfect but you won't notice unless you really gave it a closer inspection. it's more of a test buy really coz his unit is rosewood while my preference (and the system i have to match it with) is cherry, so if i didn't like it i could always dispose of it. don't want to buy a new unit and then not be able to like it, then have to sell at sacrifice prices. also, my primary purpose is to be able to home audition it to decide nga whether to go with my cherry purchase.

during the audition, i just played some vocal dominated tracks (emi fujita). there are some really deep bass tracks in there too... but when i played it i noticed the low response to be quite timid. i'm familiar with the track and it's really thumping and rolling with my 9.5 without sub assistance. i noticed that the amp we're using seems to be a low wattage yamaha amp so i thought it might be the culprit. anyway, since what i heard so far are passable naman notwithstanding the not so ideal conditions, we packed the pair up with some huffing and puffing and off i go with a hope for much better results with my home setup.

after hooking up with my gear at home... i had mixed emotions since as i've said previously the sound seems confused. the mids are not what i expected from such a dedicated mid driver... as the bass response too from such large drivers. i was tempted to swap it again with my 9.5, but the weight of these monsters prevented me from doing so at that moment. i just told myself i'm giving them a few more days to see/hear if anything will change for the better.

i didn't have to wait that long pala coz after several hours of play they began to open up and sound coherent already. maybe they weren't properly broken in with the previous owner but since they already got some months of play with him all i need is to "form" the drivers a bit more. now they're sounding so good i have dug up my few music collections to listen to them again through these beauties. be that as it may, i'm still sure that they will give their true potential when driven with a more powerful amp, say 120wpc or more. the hk5550 is 85w true rms power per channel in stereo mode but i feel the low end will still greatly benefit from a more powerful amp.

so for those who has this pair connected to an entry-level amp and feel they sound great already... wait till you hear them being properly driven by a more capable amp.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jambam on Jul 23, 2007 at 02:49 PM
Hi Gearhead,

I think  I actually auditioned the you unit you bought  since I was looking for a rosewood unit to serve as my front speaker for my HT and complement my 9.1 and Sw150 rosewoods .. He was using a Nad as preamp and a yamaha as power , it looked like a 100+ watt amp to me... Anyway maybe you are right it being low powered as I did not get the model no..

I wanted to buy it but the wife insist I buy new for the new house. Pls. keep us advised on your findings ...It might be that the 9.5 is a better buy as you said
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Jul 23, 2007 at 03:40 PM
read Reply #33 regarding power amps (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=50034.28)

In amplification, even my 130w receiver is beaten hands down by my 100w power amp w/ torroidal transformer. Also, to note, the cheapest receiver that uses torroidal transformers is the HK7300... @ Php120k...  (needs 2 people to carry) :o
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Jul 23, 2007 at 06:49 PM
Hi Gearhead,

I think  I actually auditioned the you unit you bought  since I was looking for a rosewood unit to serve as my front speaker for my HT and complement my 9.1 and Sw150 rosewoods .. He was using a Nad as preamp and a yamaha as power , it looked like a 100+ watt amp to me... Anyway maybe you are right it being low powered as I did not get the model no..

I wanted to buy it but the wife insist I buy new for the new house. Pls. keep us advised on your findings ...It might be that the 9.5 is a better buy as you said

haha.... exactly, yun nga! so nag-pilgrimage ka rin pala sa LP. ;D  ;D  ;D (o baka naman magkalapit lang kayo)?

didn't know at first whether the amp or the yamaha is the one powering the system since medyo madilim sa room. traced the speaker wire and sa yamaha pala connected. the bass is really loose and timid so i assumed it was a low-powered amp given its size also. didn't have much time to optimize the setup since me puntahan din siya after. i just put my faith in its large woofers and the capabilities of my hk5550 at home.

i was eyeing it the first time it was posted, but backed out a bit coz of the distance to their place. it was only when he gave me a good price for it that i became really serious about it. at the last minute, i discovered di nga pala rosewood yung setup ko kundi cherry, so konti na ulit mag-backout.

how about you? how did you find the speaker during your audition? after breaking in and forming the drivers the whole day yesterday, i'm all excited to try out most of my cd's. it's an altogether different beast now from the one i auditioned. if i would sell it again (to get a cherry), i should charge for the breaking in process.  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jambam on Jul 23, 2007 at 09:05 PM
Yes not far from me , kaya napuntahan ko

I have not been been doing a lot of listening lately, as my setup has been compromised due to lack of space, so i did not find major faults when i listened , nagmamadali rin ako nun time na yun..

Anyway part of the fun is breaking in ... I got some good power amps to use just in case...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Jul 23, 2007 at 09:27 PM
I wanted to buy it but the wife insist I buy new for the new house. Pls. keep us advised on your findings ...It might be that the 9.5 is a better buy as you said

galing naman ng wife mo, very supportive.  ;D at talagang siya pa nagtulak sa iyo na bago na lang ang bilhin.

well, i say the 9.5 to be the better value coz for its low brand new price you get a performer without breaking the bank for a new amp. the 3xx-series hk's , 6xx- series yamahas,  and  6xxx-series marantz would be enough to drive them with ease (again, not to say it won't benefit from a hi-power/hi-current amp). bass delivery is satisfying already, and in fact in that aspect i like it better than the 9.6... tight and controlled bass with weight. the 9.6 sounds like it does go low, but at a more conservative and laid back pace. maybe if i have a dedicated amp, the 9.6 would be more complete. it is really in the mid-hf response that the 9.6 shines though. the 9.5 can sound shrill in some material with its relatively low 2.0khz crossover. the 9.6 is more musical and transparent, but for ht it's a toss-up between the two. the low freq response of the 9.6 adds an ambiance/atmosphere to the mix... while the 9.5 gives better slam being the more forward of the two, and is  easier to integrate with subs.

might sound contradictory... but the smaller d9.5 gives louder/more audible (i couldn't say lower) bass than the d9.6. the larger d9.6 is more open-sounding though. for a given volume, although i don't have an SPL meter, the d9.6 sounds louder. i have to crank the volume a bit for the 9.5, about 4-6db more to have the same perceived loudness as the d9.6.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jerix on Jul 24, 2007 at 08:32 AM
Whats the current market price of the 9.5 today?  thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ericag_ph on Jul 24, 2007 at 08:38 AM
About P12500 new.

Whats the current market price of the 9.5 today?  thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jerix on Jul 24, 2007 at 12:37 PM
About P12500 new.


ganun pa rin pala.. thanks bro  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Jul 24, 2007 at 12:45 PM
well, i plan to change my d9.6 rosewood to a cherry-flavored  ;D one. balita ko last audio fair eh less 20% off mga wharfedale, so abangers mode muna ako kung kelan susunod magse-sale ng mga units na ito.  ;)

well, i say the 9.5 to be the better value coz for its low brand new price you get a performer without breaking the bank for a new amp. bass delivery is satisfying already, and in fact in that aspect i like it better than the 9.6... tight and controlled bass with weight.

been reading some reviews and got this word to describe the bass delivery of the 9.5 - ARTICULATE. it is tight, clean and quick. i don't have any spl meter, but i feel the 9.6 does go lower, at the price of being a bit slower, too and more laid back.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dyerds on Aug 04, 2007 at 07:27 PM
What receiver (preferably yamaha) do you think would be good for Wharf 9.5? Budget for a receiver is only P20k-P25k, 50/50 for viewing and listening.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Aug 04, 2007 at 07:51 PM
Try Yamaha RXV-659 ...  P25K, more or less.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dyerds on Aug 08, 2007 at 12:02 AM
Pwede na ba'to as an entry-level set up?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Miguel^ on Aug 08, 2007 at 12:06 AM
yes and it is.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on Aug 08, 2007 at 04:14 AM
Pwede na ba'to as an entry-level set up?

Yame  is a bit thin sounding and clipping comes when over driven..... audition other names... like denon,HK and marantz... :o
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dyerds on Aug 08, 2007 at 06:50 PM
Yame  is a bit thin sounding and clipping comes when over driven..... audition other names... like denon,HK and marantz... :o

What particular model? I'm not familiar with denon, HK amd Marantz when it comes to their model. Basta po entry level at P20-25k budget.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: @nk71 on Aug 08, 2007 at 07:19 PM
What particular model? I'm not familiar with denon, HK amd Marantz when it comes to their model. Basta po entry level at P20-25k budget.

HK 245
Denon 1907
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on Aug 08, 2007 at 09:51 PM
What particular model? I'm not familiar with denon, HK amd Marantz when it comes to their model. Basta po entry level at P20-25k budget.

If possible to get with 5.1 or 7.1 pre-outs so you have option to connect external power amps if you need to, always look for gears with future expansion or flexibilities... 8)  8)
 I guess denon has offered this in their entry levels..  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Aug 14, 2007 at 07:17 PM
where can buy a binding post for my 9CS?  ???



if i cant find one...i plan on bi-wiring it instead...therefore i'll have 2 pairs of wire na...on one end i just connect to positive and negative in the speaker but what about on the end that connects to the amp? i'm using a yamaha 440...di ba 1 pair lang yung para sa center channel....dapat ba yung dalawang positive wires dun sa positive input into the receiver and ganun din sa negative. yung parang twist ko together yung positive wire bago ipasok sa receiver tas ganun din for negative
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dyerds on Aug 14, 2007 at 11:41 PM
HK 245
Denon 1907

Thanks!

Check out those models.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on Aug 14, 2007 at 11:59 PM
where can buy a binding post for my 9CS?  ???



if i cant find one...i plan on bi-wiring it instead...therefore i'll have 2 pairs of wire na...on one end i just connect to positive and negative in the speaker but what about on the end that connects to the amp? i'm using a yamaha 440...di ba 1 pair lang yung para sa center channel....dapat ba yung dalawang positive wires dun sa positive input into the receiver and ganun din sa negative. yung parang twist ko together yung positive wire bago ipasok sa receiver tas ganun din for negative

that's correct, just like bi-wiring of fronts - 1 set + & - wires from AVR then 2 sets + & - to speaker's posts. :o
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: threadlock on Aug 17, 2007 at 01:16 PM
Which is better, Wharfedale 9.1 or 9.2?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: 3j on Aug 17, 2007 at 03:00 PM
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Which is better, Wharfedale 9.1 or 9.2?

Wharfedale have taken their multi-Award-Winning Diamond 9.1 speaker and created this larger alternative, for those who want even more! The 9.2 features a larger cabinet and bass driver which create a bolder, fuller soundstage, with greater extension - yet the 9.2 retains all the finesse and sweetness of its highly-rated little-brother
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: threadlock on Aug 17, 2007 at 03:37 PM
How about 9.2 vs Pi-10? Pi-10 is unique bec of its design but is there any difference in sound-quality between the two?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: allan1836 on Aug 17, 2007 at 03:41 PM
hi threadlock! I owned the 9.2 once and now has the Pi10. I sold my 9.2 within a month's time but my Pi10 will stay (go figure ...).   ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on Aug 18, 2007 at 06:56 AM
Mga sirs,

Ano ba current prices nito:

Diamond 9.1
Diamond 9.5
Diamond Center 9.CM

Thanks for any info.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Aug 18, 2007 at 08:56 AM
Mga sirs,

Ano ba current prices nito:

Diamond 9.1 P5,500
Diamond 9.5 P12,500
Diamond Center 9.CM P6,300

Thanks for any info.

or you can just call butch of The Home Theater.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on Aug 18, 2007 at 09:18 AM
sir gearhead, thanks a lot for the info..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kingkydoo on Aug 18, 2007 at 10:09 PM
Mga sirs,

Ano ba mas magandang tunog? Diamond 9CS/CM or Evo Center? 50/50 HT and music
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on Aug 18, 2007 at 10:12 PM
Mga sirs,

Ano ba mas magandang tunog? Diamond 9CS/CM or Evo Center? 50/50 HT and music

each one has it's own character so   :D , try them side by side on same system and decide to yourself..... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Aug 18, 2007 at 10:29 PM
Ano ba current prices nito:

Diamond 9.1
Diamond 9.5
Diamond Center 9.CM

if you can stretch your budget, since you're eyeing the 9CM, why not go with the 9.6? after several weeks of breaking-in, my 9.6's are really singing now. labas na labas na ang bass at treble nya. that's why i don't use the sub much now for stereo listening. couple that with the nice and open mids and you get satellite clarity with floorstander heft. you should partner it with a powerful amp though. an HK 34x/marantz 5x00 or onkyo tx-6xx i think will be the barest minimum... or any >70wpc amp that list their true rms power rating.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on Aug 18, 2007 at 10:44 PM
Mga sirs,

Ano ba current prices nito:

Diamond 9.1
Diamond 9.5
Diamond Center 9.CM

Thanks for any info.

just my 2cents:

9.CM is voice matched to = 9.6
if you get :
9.5 match it with  = 9.CS
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kingkydoo on Aug 19, 2007 at 01:17 PM
if you can stretch your budget, since you're eyeing the 9CM, why not go with the 9.6? after several weeks of breaking-in, my 9.6's are really singing now. labas na labas na ang bass at treble nya. that's why i don't use the sub much now for stereo listening. couple that with the nice and open mids and you get satellite clarity with floorstander heft. you should partner it with a powerful amp though. an HK 34x/marantz 5x00 or onkyo tx-6xx i think will be the barest minimum... or any >70wpc amp that list their true rms power rating.

Wala na po sa akin ung budget ng 9.6 e. ;D

Ano pong diiference ng evo center sa 9CS in terms of sound quality?

At ano ang recommended AVR para dito (minimum)?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jay_26 on Aug 22, 2007 at 09:53 AM
Mga master ask ko lang po. Ano po ba pang entrly level speakers at amp pang Home Theater PC. I've been using 5.1 PC na speaker and indi ako masyadong satisfied sa kanya. Ung room ko ay medyo maliit so pang entry level lang po gusto ko. Thanks... :P
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ericag_ph on Aug 22, 2007 at 11:30 AM
You could look at the logitech X...something speakers...about P5K

If not satisfied with PC speakers,
get a receiver/amp (11K up - yamaha rxv359, most folks here will probably recommend spending 25K at least to
avoid future upgrade compulsions)  ;D

and new wharfdale speakers (a 5 spkr set will cost 20K up, a subwoofer is about 10K up)

You'll need to connect your PC to the receiver via coax or fiber optic. 
So, either your board has it, or your sound card does, if not, upgrade that too.

Mga master ask ko lang po. Ano po ba pang entrly level speakers at amp pang Home Theater PC. I've been using 5.1 PC na speaker and indi ako masyadong satisfied sa kanya. Ung room ko ay medyo maliit so pang entry level lang po gusto ko. Thanks... :P
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jay_26 on Aug 22, 2007 at 12:49 PM
Actually sir i have logitech z5500, what exactyly kind of yamaha receiver and wharfedale speakers ang pang entry level 5.1 setup lang?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on Aug 22, 2007 at 01:11 PM
Actually sir i have logitech z5500, what exactyly kind of yamaha receiver and wharfedale speakers ang pang entry level 5.1 setup lang?


Watch out for Denon or Yamaha here in B&S section to get the best deal and pair it with wharfedale 9.1,9cs & sub , SR dito rin sa B&S kunting tyaga lang, you can complete your set-up at very less budget than you expect.

good-luck... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ericag_ph on Aug 22, 2007 at 03:12 PM
Here's an entry level setup:

Receiver: yamaha rxv359 - P11K, the rxv459 is P14K-15K, the rxv659 is P27K
Speakers:
Fronts (L and R): wharfedale diamond 9.1 bookshelf - P5500 per pair (these are sometimes referred to as the best sounding speakers for under $500, or was it $1000)   ;D
Center:  wharfedale diamond 9.cs (or cm) - P5000
Surrounds: wharfedale diamond 9.DFS - P5000 per pair.

That gives you 5.0

For the .1 ...you'll need a subwoofer...would suggest Velodyne, but it is pricey...P24K (8") up.  Some might suggest
DTX...maybe around P5K-P8K...

Whatever sub you choose later in life  ;D If you want to shake the sofa, the room, the dog outside, you need a sub that can do an SPL (sound pressure level) of 75dB at 22Hz minimum.   ;D

If you want to delay the subwoofer, get floorstanders instead of bookshelf.
Floorstanders have better bass than bookshelf.  You can check out the wharfedale 9.5 (P12500 per pair)

And as suggested, you may want to check the buy and sell area...some people are upgrading, so they sell
their older stuff at a good deal (sometimes).   ;D

And before you buy, do try the speakers first (listen to them),
see if they are a big improvement over your logitechs for the price you will be spending  ;D
Unlike PC speakers, the reputable hi-fi shops will ALYWAYS demo these to you before you buy them... just think shoes  ;D

Finally, no matter what you buy, no matter how expensive the toys you get, if the room is acoustically bad (ie. untreated), you just wasted money  ;D
If your source DVD discs/material/media is also bad (ie. f*kes), then you also wasted money on equipment. 


Actually sir i have logitech z5500, what exactyly kind of yamaha receiver and wharfedale speakers ang pang entry level 5.1 setup lang?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 22, 2007 at 03:42 PM
Mga master ask ko lang po. Ano po ba pang entrly level speakers at amp pang Home Theater PC. I've been using 5.1 PC na speaker and indi ako masyadong satisfied sa kanya. Ung room ko ay medyo maliit so pang entry level lang po gusto ko. Thanks... :P

If you have a HTPC doing the job of processor & DVD player. Consider using dedicated 5 channel power amps directly (not receivers). I got my Rotel power amp from a HTPC user (HTPC direct to power amp) & I could never consider settling for a receiver alone (no power amps) ever since. The SQ was  :o even compared to my powerful (60+k) mid level receiver (w/c later turned into a processor na lang).

Dedicated power amps use torroidal transformers usually found only in expensive P 100+k to flagship receivers that require at least 2 people to carry.

If a 56k Rotel 1075 is not w/in your budget, try to consider this power amp:

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=68465.0

At that price, it will no doubt beat ANY receiver at its same price level in power & SQ. Perfect for HTPC!

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jay_26 on Aug 22, 2007 at 05:11 PM
Thanks po mga master sa mga replies... Pano po ba ung room ko gawing acoustic treatment?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Aug 24, 2007 at 09:13 PM
Here's an entry level setup:

Receiver: yamaha rxv359 - P11K, the rxv459 is P14K-15K, the rxv659 is P27K
Speakers:
Fronts (L and R): wharfedale diamond 9.1 bookshelf - P5500 per pair (these are sometimes referred to as the best sounding speakers for under $500, or was it $1000)   ;D
Center:  wharfedale diamond 9.cs (or cm) - P5000
Surrounds: wharfedale diamond 9.DFS - P5000 per pair.

That gives you 5.0

For the .1 ...you'll need a subwoofer...would suggest Velodyne, but it is pricey...P24K (8") up.  Some might suggest
DTX...maybe around P5K-P8K...

Whatever sub you choose later in life  ;D If you want to shake the sofa, the room, the dog outside, you need a sub that can do an SPL (sound pressure level) of 75dB at 22Hz minimum.   ;D

If you want to delay the subwoofer, get floorstanders instead of bookshelf.
Floorstanders have better bass than bookshelf.  You can check out the wharfedale 9.5 (P12500 per pair)

And as suggested, you may want to check the buy and sell area...some people are upgrading, so they sell
their older stuff at a good deal (sometimes).   ;D

And before you buy, do try the speakers first (listen to them),
see if they are a big improvement over your logitechs for the price you will be spending  ;D
Unlike PC speakers, the reputable hi-fi shops will ALYWAYS demo these to you before you buy them... just think shoes  ;D

Finally, no matter what you buy, no matter how expensive the toys you get, if the room is acoustically bad (ie. untreated), you just wasted money  ;D
If your source DVD discs/material/media is also bad (ie. f*kes), then you also wasted money on equipment. 



What HK receiver or Yamaha receiver is best? Preferably capable of 7.1 output.  I prefer watching movies than listening to music.  Plan to upgrade my sound system to 9.5s, 9.CS, 9.1 surrounds (better ba 9.dfs for surrounds?), velodyne sub (what is best velodyne sub? a 10" or 12"). Budget 60-80K.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vtec3 on Aug 24, 2007 at 10:11 PM
What HK receiver or Yamaha receiver is best? Preferably capable of 7.1 output.  I prefer watching movies than listening to music.  Plan to upgrade my sound system to 9.5s, 9.CS, 9.1 surrounds (better ba 9.dfs for surrounds?), velodyne sub (what is best velodyne sub? a 10" or 12"). Budget 60-80K.

I have asked that advice also from the people here sa forum, and was told na each amp has it diff characteristics and also the user has different preference.  heard the wharf 9.6 paired with Denon and sounds ok naman ;)

With your budget you can buy a mid level speaker and an entry level amp or a mid level amp and an entry level speaker  ;)  Dagdag ka na lang ng konti and its a mid level amp and a mid level speakers. I think we are in the same boat (SARS). Have been auditioning several mid level speakers lately but narrowed my choices na to three brands  ;)

dami mabait gurus dito sa Pdvd forum (they are currently giving me tips in my search for new speakers)  and i am sure when they read your post they will help you make the right choice.

I was told by a wharf retailer that the evo2 will be released here within the year. fyi  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Aug 24, 2007 at 10:54 PM
I have asked that advice also from the people here sa forum, and was told na each amp has it diff characteristics and also the user has different preference.  heard the wharf 9.6 paired with Denon and sounds ok naman ;)

With your budget you can buy a mid level speaker and an entry level amp or a mid level amp and an entry level speaker  ;)  Dagdag ka na lang ng konti and its a mid level amp and a mid level speakers. I think we are in the same boat (SARS). Have been auditioning several mid level speakers lately but narrowed my choices na to three brands  ;)

dami mabait gurus dito sa Pdvd forum (they are currently giving me tips in my search for new speakers)  and i am sure when they read your post they will help you make the right choice.

I was told by a wharf retailer that the evo2 will be released here within the year. fyi  ;)

I might be able to spare max 120K for my upgrade.  What are the mid level amp and mid level speakers ba?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vtec3 on Aug 25, 2007 at 08:36 AM
sent you a pm  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: archiep on Aug 28, 2007 at 09:45 AM
Hi guys!

Newbie po ako dito... and lurked around on what is the good setup for me. And below is my short kwento

At first I'm leaning towards AM-10 ng Bose and when I'm in a shop for a good AVR, meron ako nakasabay sa 5th ave sa ParkSquare1 and he told me to register dito sa PinoyDVD. And I'm very glad I did! I was able to read some post regarding BOSE AM-10, so medyo nagiba ng konti ang aking pananaw. Well, even before my brother is discouraging me to get Bose AM-10, to pricey daw and sub-level performance. I also got the chance to read about THE HOME THEATER store here in Makati. Paid them a visit during lunch time, talked to Erica and Butch and they were very helpful to me and they are very much eager to do auditions for me. Then returned in the afternoon with my brother who knows alot in Audio setup... then before I knew it my house is rocking already. hehhehehe

THanks very much to the ideas and learning from the masters... buti na lang at nakapag basa basa ako dito I ended up having a very good setup and the best part is di nagasgas ang Credit Card ko! hehehe


here is my setup
Denon 1507
Wharfedale 9.1, 9cs, 9dfs
velodyne vx-10

Archie
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Aug 28, 2007 at 10:32 AM
Hi guys!

Newbie po ako dito...

... buti na lang at nakapag basa basa ako dito I ended up having a very good setup and the best part is di nagasgas ang Credit Card ko! hehehe

here is my setup
Denon 1507
Wharfedale 9.1, 9cs, 9dfs
velodyne vx-10


Congrats!  Magaling ang mga advisers mo, sir!

Kung AM-10 ang kinuha mo, halatang newbie ka nga  :D 

Buti na lang maganda ang mga choices mo...  With that setup, hindi na halatang newbie!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: glacierfrost on Aug 28, 2007 at 11:54 AM
Anybody here tried the aurum cantus F series? how does the aurum cantus compare with the wharfedales?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on Aug 28, 2007 at 12:55 PM
Hi guys!




here is my setup
Denon 1507
Wharfedale 9.1, 9cs, 9dfs
velodyne vx-10

Archie

That's a very good set-up I also have denon and wharfe 9.5 but not on same set-up. I found those performed well especially in HT and also in music.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jay_26 on Aug 28, 2007 at 02:49 PM
@archiep

Bro newbie lang din me dito. Ask ko lang kung magkano inabot ganyang setup? Can you list the price per item. Thanks... ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: archiep on Aug 28, 2007 at 03:04 PM

Congrats!  Magaling ang mga advisers mo, sir!

Kung AM-10 ang kinuha mo, halatang newbie ka nga  :D 

Buti na lang maganda ang mga choices mo...  With that setup, hindi na halatang newbie!  ;D

Ayus no? di ako masyado nagmukha wala alam hehehehe  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: archiep on Aug 28, 2007 at 06:24 PM
@archiep

Bro newbie lang din me dito. Ask ko lang kung magkano inabot ganyang setup? Can you list the price per item. Thanks... ;)

I emailed it in your yahoo...

Archie
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kingkydoo on Aug 29, 2007 at 08:34 AM
I emailed it in your yahoo...

Archie

Archie,

PM mo din sa akin ung prices.. Hehe.. thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jay_26 on Aug 29, 2007 at 09:40 AM
I emailed it in your yahoo...

Archie

Sir thanks for the info.  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chizcake on Aug 29, 2007 at 11:42 AM
sir pwede ako din po, pa email , thanks po
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: threadlock on Aug 29, 2007 at 04:10 PM
Hi guys!


here is my setup
Denon 1507
Wharfedale 9.1, 9cs, 9dfs
velodyne vx-10

Archie

Parang ganito din setup ko. Denon 1507, Diamond 9cm, however my fronts are DTX SB 620 and my sub is DTX 4.15 :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sanabagan on Aug 29, 2007 at 08:51 PM
gurus, question lang po.... may difference ba ng sound characteristics or quality and diamond 9.2 versus the 9.4? looking at the specs and appearance kasi, they seem to be the same woofer and tweeter, BS nga lang yung isa and FS yung 9.4. aesthetics/form factor lang ba ang pagkakaiba? TIA
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on Aug 29, 2007 at 10:02 PM
Usual difference of BS and little big bro. is in bass extension in favor of bigger box but the BS shines in midrange level... most critical listeners called it sweeter upper level... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: silhouette on Aug 30, 2007 at 09:51 AM
here is my setup
Denon 1507
Wharfedale 9.1, 9cs, 9dfs
velodyne vx-10

Archie

Nice set up archiep!
I'm sure you will not be contented with the 9.1, and later on push a little higher.

Enjoy your new toys!

Mon
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: archiep on Aug 30, 2007 at 10:00 AM
MON!!!!

Lupeet mo talaga! hahahaha

Hirap mag Justify kay Gay!!! hahahaha

Sarap ng buhay sa bahay... parang ayaw ko na pumasok eh, pag nasa opis naman gusto mo na umuwi agad! hehehe

Archie
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: silhouette on Aug 30, 2007 at 10:27 AM
Nagpalit na din ako ng speakers.  Binitawan ko na Mission tower speakers ko, and replaced it with wharf 9.5.  Until now hindi pa masyado break in.  May kahirapan i-break in unlike the missions.  But definitely bang for the buck as they say.
I will just have to save some moolah to upgrade my Denon AVR. Medyo bitin sa 85w.
Shortest way to upgrade is Matzter's Bada power amp.  kahit two channels lang muna.
Check mo din yun chie, may pre-outs naman yan denon mo.

Paktay ka ngayon sa DVD collection.  Kakapitan ka na din ng SARS! hehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: archiep on Aug 30, 2007 at 10:33 AM

Paktay ka ngayon sa DVD collection.  Kakapitan ka na din ng SARS! hehe.

Pre,
meron sale sa Glorietta diba? bukas gabi punta ako dun tignan ko if may mabili ako hehehe

And, turuan mo nga ako nung power amp... di ko alam yun... pero not now, liit lang ng place ko medyo di ko kailangan ng masyado malakas...

cool and easy setup lang gusto ko ...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: silhouette on Aug 30, 2007 at 10:41 AM
sure chie!

cool and easy?  nah.  majority yata ng nag ht yan ang sinabi, including me. :)
Bili-bili na dvd.  wag debede ha.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: archiep on Aug 30, 2007 at 11:14 AM
sure chie!

cool and easy?  nah.  majority yata ng nag ht yan ang sinabi, including me. :)
Bili-bili na dvd.  wag debede ha.

On the DVD, since na kabit ko na setup ko, I don't plan in buying the DIBIDI. I just find it sayang for the HT setup that I have.

BTW, si Reich gusto na din mag setup... kahapon sinamo ko kila Sonny, ayun napapa isip na.. mag floorstanding ata

Archie
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chizcake on Aug 31, 2007 at 08:51 AM
sir thanks po sa email.,
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Aug 31, 2007 at 08:56 AM
lowdown on WD9.6. my friend discovered that it used electrolytic capacitors for the crossovers.

anybody checked their 9.1? tia :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Aug 31, 2007 at 10:44 AM
can you ask your friend how accessible the crossover network is?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Aug 31, 2007 at 04:59 PM
can you ask your friend how accessible the crossover network is?

accessible naman daw.

the good thing here is the potential that can be unleashed once the caps have been changed to polypropylene. ive noticed a trend in some speakers, tinitipid ang internal wiring and crossover caps.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sanabagan on Sep 03, 2007 at 02:00 PM
anybody here selling their 9.4 or 9.5? text at 0917-803-6443. thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: scaglietti on Sep 03, 2007 at 10:34 PM
mga sirs, how much ang wharfe 9.5 ngayon?  thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on Sep 03, 2007 at 10:54 PM
mga sirs, how much ang wharfe 9.5 ngayon?  thanks!

about 12,500.00 pesos according from other posts. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Sep 03, 2007 at 11:09 PM
malapit na pala birthday ng 9.5 ko...  ::)


 ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chief on Sep 04, 2007 at 05:00 PM
malapit na pala birthday ng 9.5 ko...  ::)


 ;D ;D ;D



bakit sir, benta mo na ba pagdating ng birthday nya? dito lang ako! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on Sep 04, 2007 at 05:18 PM
malapit na pala birthday ng 9.5 ko...  ::)


 ;D ;D ;D





Sir, parang Hapi Ber Day rin yan... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Sep 04, 2007 at 07:02 PM
bakit sir, benta mo na ba pagdating ng birthday nya? dito lang ako! ;D ;D ;D


chief!!! dito ka na din?  ;D ;D ;D welcome welcome...

bili ka na lang ng bago  :-* di ka naman magsisisi  :o

 :)


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: torque on Sep 04, 2007 at 07:04 PM
I just bought 9.1 last Saturday, I paired it with Onkyo502... ;D
Nasa break-in stage pa pero it already sounded good on Jazz/Vocal CDs...
Haven't tried listening to my rock/new wave/90s CDs...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Sep 04, 2007 at 07:05 PM

Sir, parang Hapi Ber Day rin yan... ;D


Oo nga sir, ipagluluto ko ng spaghetti at pancit canton yan 9.5 ko sa Oct 7 pampahaba ng buhay...  ;D ;D ;D

Yun 9.1 ko kasi silent celebration lang...  :o




Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Sep 04, 2007 at 07:08 PM
I just bought 9.1 last Saturday, I paired it with Onkyo502... ;D
Nasa break-in stage pa pero it already sounded good on Jazz/Vocal CDs...
Haven't tried listening to my rock/new wave/90s CDs...



wow congrats, sarap mag break-in ng 9.1 sir...  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chief on Sep 04, 2007 at 08:02 PM

chief!!! dito ka na din?  ;D ;D ;D welcome welcome...

bili ka na lang ng bago  :-* di ka naman magsisisi  :o

 :)




alam nyo naman kaming mga followers nyo, kung saan kayo, pipilitin naming pumaroon din! ;D ;D ;D

salams sa welcome! ;) :) naglakas-loob lang akong mag-post ng akala ko e isasalya mo na 9.5 mo! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on Sep 04, 2007 at 08:08 PM
Bakit maraming inlove sa waf 9.* series.... ??? ::) yong  sa akin matagal na ring inaawitan ng tropa ko... minsan patay malisya na lang pag_nagparinig baka mabigla ako...  ::) E-uwi agad...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Sep 04, 2007 at 08:58 PM
alam nyo naman kaming mga followers nyo, kung saan kayo, pipilitin naming pumaroon din! ;D ;D ;D

salams sa welcome! ;) :) naglakas-loob lang akong mag-post ng akala ko e isasalya mo na 9.5 mo! ;D ;D ;D


hahaha... welcome sa magulo at walang katapusang mundo ng ht at audio  ;D ;D ;D


sori chief, love ko yan 9.5 ko... bili-bili na kasi eh, mamya niyan magtaas pa yan...  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Sep 04, 2007 at 09:01 PM
Bakit maraming inlove sa waf 9.* series.... ??? ::) yong  sa akin matagal na ring inaawitan ng tropa ko... minsan patay malisya na lang pag_nagparinig baka mabigla ako...  ::) E-uwi agad...  ;D


ituro mo sir sa pinakamalapit na dealer...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on Sep 04, 2007 at 09:41 PM

ituro mo sir sa pinakamalapit na dealer...  ;D

Kaso, yung dealer already stopped dealing this name. all Harman International products na lang binibenta. I got this from their closed-out sale kaya tambay lang for lack enough space. Paradigm ang naka-duty....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hans_adriane on Sep 04, 2007 at 11:56 PM
alam nyo naman kaming mga followers nyo, kung saan kayo, pipilitin naming pumaroon din! ;D ;D ;D

salams sa welcome! ;) :) naglakas-loob lang akong mag-post ng akala ko e isasalya mo na 9.5 mo! ;D ;D ;D

Chief,

dito ka na rin??
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Sep 05, 2007 at 06:19 AM
anyone tried the mundorf (or any polypropylene cap) tweak on their diamond 9's? i might try it with my 9.5 but want to know first if it would be worth it. as from the diamond 9 brochure on page 10, capacitor is electrolytic and resistor is 2.2 ohms ceramic. any possible substitute for the resistor?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chief on Sep 05, 2007 at 07:05 AM
Chief,

dito ka na rin??

hehehe! alam nyo naman na kayo mga guru namin kahit sa anu-ano. kaya kung saan kayo, paroroon kami! ;D ;D ;D  remember, ikaw nagpayo sa akin na ganitong brand/model ang kunin ko. ;) :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chief on Sep 05, 2007 at 07:08 AM

hahaha... welcome sa magulo at walang katapusang mundo ng ht at audio  ;D ;D ;D


sori chief, love ko yan 9.5 ko... bili-bili na kasi eh, mamya niyan magtaas pa yan...  ;D ;D ;D




actually doc, naka-sched na yan. dinadama ko lang maigi kasi baka lumabas ulit ako. e di maalikabukan lang sa bahay dahil ala namang hilig si esmi. :( :( :'(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d'dale on Sep 05, 2007 at 07:23 AM
mag kano na kaya ang wharfe9.6 & 9cm?balak kung benta na yung wharfe9.5 & 9cs...?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: skylynx888 on Sep 05, 2007 at 07:56 AM
mag kano na kaya ang wharfe9.6 & 9cm?balak kung benta na yung wharfe9.5 & 9cs...?

if my memory serves me right :

9.6 =  P17500
9CM = P6500

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vtec3 on Sep 05, 2007 at 10:04 AM
mag kano na kaya ang wharfe9.6 & 9cm?balak kung benta na yung wharfe9.5 & 9cs...?

9.6      -  16,600
9cm     -   5,900
9 DFS   -   4,500
9 SR    -   3,800

that was the price last month when i was asking, although i am looking in buying another brand. hanap lang ako timing dami kasi work  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: torque on Sep 05, 2007 at 11:57 AM

wow congrats, sarap mag break-in ng 9.1 sir...  ;)

Thanks bro.
Gusto ko na nga mag-weekend para sound trip all day  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d'dale on Sep 05, 2007 at 02:15 PM
9.6      -  16,600
9cm     -   5,900
9 DFS   -   4,500
9 SR    -   3,800

that was the price last month when i was asking, although i am looking in buying another brand. hanap lang ako timing dami kasi work  ;)
   sir vtec3 & sir skylynx888  thanks sa info.

         saan kayang store yan sir vtec3? ...tnx.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vtec3 on Sep 05, 2007 at 05:18 PM
   sir vtec3 & sir skylynx888  thanks sa info.

         saan kayang store yan sir vtec3? ...tnx.

sa Theaterworks mayron niyan  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on Sep 05, 2007 at 08:57 PM
Planning to let go of my 9.5 to my friend, only used for almost 3 months then kept inside the box for almost a year na. Will use the fund for other stuff.... :(   :-\ . Any opinion?  ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dyerds on Sep 06, 2007 at 01:45 AM
Just bought my own Ht last Monday at The Home Theater in Makati. Yehey!!!!! I think I already have the Sars eventhough I don't want this to last for a long time kasi masakit sa bulsa!  ;D Btw good to buy this at My Home Theater because they are really very helpful in what equipment to choose na papasok sa budget mo at syempre yung okay na equipment pa.  If you have any questions pag nag-setup ka sa bahay kahit ilang tawag gawin mo sa kanila okay lang. Keep up the good work! Anyways, These are my equipment:

Front: Wharfe 9.4
Center: CS
Surround: DFS
Sub: Velo Vx10
Receiver: Denon 1907

Nung nagpatugtog na'ko kahit wala pang sub parang nakalimutan ko na may kausap pa ako na taga-My home Theater. Ganda ng tunog ng Wharfe for entry-level. Tapos pinanood ko ang 300 at Matrix Reloaded parang gusto kong umiyak sa ganda ng naririnig ko.  ;D  :'(

Thanks to all my fellow PDVD members who's been very helpful in my road to HT Experience. Hehehe... ;) :D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Sep 06, 2007 at 02:04 AM
welcome to the wharfe club, dyerds. may you have a long and lasting relationship with your wharfe gears.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Sep 06, 2007 at 10:58 AM
congrats dyerds... sarap ng feeling para ka may bago baby sa bahay...  :o

 ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hans_adriane on Sep 06, 2007 at 11:29 AM
hehehe! alam nyo naman na kayo mga guru namin kahit sa anu-ano. kaya kung saan kayo, paroroon kami! ;D ;D ;D  remember, ikaw nagpayo sa akin na ganitong brand/model ang kunin ko. ;) :)

wAg na mambola.... bumili ka na!!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Sep 06, 2007 at 01:05 PM
Tapos pinanood ko ang 300 at Matrix Reloaded parang gusto kong umiyak sa ganda ng naririnig ko.  ;D  :'(

Grabe ang drama mo, sir!  :D

Seriously, we're glad that you now share our passion.  Congrats sa iyong newfound hobby. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on Sep 06, 2007 at 01:27 PM
Ganda ng tunog ng Wharfe for entry-level. Tapos pinanood ko ang 300 at Matrix Reloaded parang gusto kong umiyak sa ganda ng naririnig ko.  ;D  :'(  Hehehe... ;) :D ;D

It's normal....  ::)  ::) The first cut is the deepest!....  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Sep 06, 2007 at 02:50 PM
Nung nagpatugtog na'ko kahit wala pang sub parang nakalimutan ko na may kausap pa ako na taga-My home Theater. Ganda ng tunog ng Wharfe for entry-level. Tapos pinanood ko ang 300 at Matrix Reloaded parang gusto kong umiyak sa ganda ng naririnig ko.  ;D  :'( 

actually, parang pinagdaanan ko din yan dati.... kaya nakarelate din ako.  :'(

 :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dyerds on Sep 06, 2007 at 07:22 PM
Ganun nga mga bro...you don't mind kung magkano ang damage sa bulsa basta nakita at narinig mo na ang  bago mong baby. 4 months in the making bago natupad ang mga pangarap ko. Hehehe! Maraming salamat ulit sa advice nyo mga bro. Welcome to the SARS!  ;D :D :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kane on Sep 12, 2007 at 02:03 AM
is it ok to match wharfe 9.6 with 9cs.  Or 9cm talaga for 9.6 and 9.5 for 9cs?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on Sep 12, 2007 at 12:51 PM
is it ok to match wharfe 9.6 with 9cs.  Or 9cm talaga for 9.6 and 9.5 for 9cs?

If possible to have them all voice-matched.... :o
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Sep 13, 2007 at 01:35 PM
is it ok to match wharfe 9.6 with 9cs.  Or 9cm talaga for 9.6 and 9.5 for 9cs?
sir,

its much better to pair it with 9cm
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on Sep 13, 2007 at 02:26 PM
is it ok to match wharfe 9.6 with 9cs.  Or 9cm talaga for 9.6 and 9.5 for 9cs?

9.6 = 9cm
9.5 = 9cs

Manufacture's intended matching models for L/C/R  ...  ;D  :o  ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bassman on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:35 PM
Sirs, magkano na kaya EVO2 50 ngayon?

How about its performance? advice naman from evo50 owners.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Sep 17, 2007 at 03:13 PM
i don't think the evo2's... more so the 50's, are available here already. i asked about them from spectra a few weeks ago and no word yet on its availability locally. i was also looking at these initially for their 3" dome midrange.

anyway, for those who may want to tweak their diamond 9.5's, here's a glimpse of what you can expect to find inside:

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=42614.msg726233#msg726233 (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=42614.msg726233#msg726233)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on Sep 17, 2007 at 03:26 PM

anyway, for those who may want to tweak their diamond 9.5's, here's a glimpse of what you can expect to find inside:

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=42614.msg726233#msg726233 (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=42614.msg726233#msg726233)

Sir, any update of the tweak you plan in your 9.5? mine, have plan to sell it to my friend...  :( hindi kasi nagagamit...  :(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Sep 17, 2007 at 03:29 PM
i plan to go to raon this week to get the polypropylene replacement caps for the electrolytics. then try ko i-replace this weekend. it will then take a week or more still to reap the sonic benefits of the upgrade though, as per our masters here.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Trig on Sep 19, 2007 at 12:01 PM
elow po, noob po ako pagdating sa sound system.

balak ko bumili ng wharf speakers. Currently ang gamit ko sony ht-ddw840. Eto specs nya:

http://reviews.cnet.com/home-theater-in-a/sony-ht-ddw840/4507-6740_7-20017938.html?tag=sub

Tanong ko lang po kung kakayanin ba ng receiver ko yung wharf 9.1, 9 cs at 9 dfs. ang plan ko kc is speakers muna tapos later na ako bumili ng receiver sa US w/in the year. Gus2 ko kc sana yung may hdmi na. ang laki kc ng diff ng price ng receiver kapag kinompare yung price dito as US. Ano po yung kelangan icheck sa specs para makita kng kakayanin sya ng receiver?

tenks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on Sep 19, 2007 at 12:49 PM
elow po, noob po ako pagdating sa sound system.

balak ko bumili ng wharf speakers. Currently ang gamit ko sony ht-ddw840. Eto specs nya:

http://reviews.cnet.com/home-theater-in-a/sony-ht-ddw840/4507-6740_7-20017938.html?tag=sub

Tanong ko lang po kung kakayanin ba ng receiver ko yung wharf 9.1, 9 cs at 9 dfs. ang plan ko kc is speakers muna tapos later na ako bumili ng receiver sa US w/in the year. Gus2 ko kc sana yung may hdmi na. ang laki kc ng diff ng price ng receiver kapag kinompare yung price dito as US. Ano po yung kelangan icheck sa specs para makita kng kakayanin sya ng receiver?

tenks

the specs did'nt say the power handling capabilty of the receiver. Wafes are 6 ohms in impedance and usually it goes down to 4 ohms. For temporary use it's possible just be careful not to over drive it.
For receiver selection, first the power handling or watts/channel all driven not only 2-channel driven, if possible w/ discrete power means has individual power output/ channel not sharing from single power amp/chip inside. Get with pre-out for future use if decided to connect ext. amp to drive Bigger Speakers. .. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Trig on Sep 19, 2007 at 03:30 PM
the specs did'nt say the power handling capabilty of the receiver. Wafes are 6 ohms in impedance and usually it goes down to 4 ohms. For temporary use it's possible just be careful not to over drive it.
For receiver selection, first the power handling or watts/channel all driven not only 2-channel driven, if possible w/ discrete power means has individual power output/ channel not sharing from single power amp/chip inside. Get with pre-out for future use if decided to connect ext. amp to drive Bigger Speakers. .. ;D

eto po may nakita ako na mas-detailed. kung tama pgkakaintindi ko sa pdf, yung receiver ko 100w/ch at 8ohms
http://129.33.22.12/release/htddw840.PDF

Sa ngayon ang balak ko yung Yamaha 661 or Onkyo 605. tama ba pinagpipilian ko
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Sep 19, 2007 at 03:39 PM
for your given set of speakers, that receiver will suffice for now... even granting a few watts derating. heck, if you have the space i can even suggest you get the diamond 9.5 for fronts since you do plan on upgrading your avr in the future.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Sep 19, 2007 at 09:49 PM
Any updates on how much these speakers cost at present and where they are available?  Thanks.

Wharfedale 9.5

Wharfedale 9.6

Wharfedale 9.CM

Wharfedale 9.DFS
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on Sep 19, 2007 at 10:30 PM
Any updates on how much these speakers cost at present and where they are available?  Thanks.

Wharfedale 9.5

Wharfedale 9.6

Wharfedale 9.CM

Wharfedale 9.DFS

Sir, prices of these models have already mentioned somewhere in this thread... I quess prices still the same or won't change much....  ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: silhouette on Sep 20, 2007 at 03:40 PM
@oreo.  check with sir sonny tuazon or spectra.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Philjonc on Sep 21, 2007 at 03:30 PM
almost all AV shops here are selling wharfs, kasi nga mabili and really very good choice for starters on a budget. ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Trig on Sep 23, 2007 at 01:27 AM
Sir balak ko po bumili ng 9.1 9cs 9dfs. Sw150 narin po ba bilhin ko na subs? ano po marerecomend nyo na nasa same price range din. thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Philjonc on Sep 23, 2007 at 07:13 AM
Sir balak ko po bumili ng 9.1 9cs 9dfs. Sw150 narin po ba bilhin ko na subs? ano po marerecomend nyo na nasa same price range din. thanks
hi trig,
not really familiar with wharf subs, but you can always audition it together with your choice of fronts/center/rears to get a better feel before buying it. OT pero why not also try daiichi subs, I think mababa lang price pang HT lang naman gamit mo.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Sep 23, 2007 at 11:01 AM
Sir balak ko po bumili ng 9.1 9cs 9dfs. Sw150 narin po ba bilhin ko na subs? ano po marerecomend nyo na nasa same price range din. thanks 

the general concensus with the sw150 is that it's excellent for music but somewhat lacking in HT. it has a tendency to disappear making it easy to integrate with the wharfe line, a good attribute for music apps... but a weakness for some when it comes to HT.

the mordaunt carnival 10" sub is also available for almost the same price and a better performer for HT and from what i've heard of it might be easy to integrate for music apps also. for a bit more dough, there is the velodyne vx-10 II w/c owners swear by on its bang for the buck performance.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Philjonc on Sep 23, 2007 at 12:09 PM
the general concensus with the sw150 is that it's excellent for music but somewhat lacking in HT. it has a tendency to disappear making it easy to integrate with the wharfe line, a good attribute for music apps... but a weakness for some when it comes to HT.

the mordaunt carnival 10" sub is also available for almost the same price and a better performer for HT and from what i've heard of it might be easy to integrate for music apps also. for a bit more dough, there is the velodyne vx-10 II w/c owners swear by on its bang for the buck performance.

When you talk about Wharfedale fanatics, this guy is one of them. 8)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on Sep 23, 2007 at 12:47 PM
have you tried to dialed-up the gain of SW150 in HT?.. maybe it can keep-up with the pace.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Sep 23, 2007 at 01:04 PM
ooops... i don't have the sw150, but it was on my shortlist when i was shopping around for my sub. did some research on that so i have read feedbacks about its performance. for HT, it seems dialing up won't do much good as it has a tendency to break up and plop around if driven quite hard. i have seen and heard it actually do this.

there was a time there was a glut of sw150's here for very good prices, and i was tempted to get one na rin sana kaya lang i don' t have the space for another sub.

When you talk about Wharfedale fanatics, this guy is one of them. 8) 

hehe... not really. more like a budget speaker fanatic. also dig the mordaunt short carnival line for their transparency and attack especially for ht applications. i'm more into the diamond line also coz of the bang-for-the-buck price. evos may be nice but they're quite pricey, though i was also tempted to get one from the 2nd hand market (though it was virtually an unused unit).
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on Sep 23, 2007 at 01:09 PM
I also got a chanced to listen to it in the showroom but not that long to test it completely, actually it was on sale and almost tempted me to get one. Considering it's power and not very imprssive specs I just thought that my FS will just drown it.... ;D  :o
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Sep 24, 2007 at 01:51 PM
actually doc, naka-sched na yan. dinadama ko lang maigi kasi baka lumabas ulit ako. e di maalikabukan lang sa bahay dahil ala namang hilig si esmi. :( :( :'(

i smell a 9.6  :o :o :o

welcome chief tuliiiiiiiis!!!

congrats sir dyerds!!! meron din akong 9.1..... ganda niyan pag na break-in.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Philjonc on Sep 24, 2007 at 05:52 PM

hehe... not really. more like a budget speaker fanatic. also dig the mordaunt short carnival line for their transparency and attack especially for ht applications. i'm more into the diamond line also coz of the bang-for-the-buck price. evos may be nice but they're quite pricey, though i was also tempted to get one from the 2nd hand market (though it was virtually an unused unit).
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actually, a member PM me about the evo40 and he got it quickly. sayang mura naman diba meron kana sana collection of wharf floorstanders... :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Sep 24, 2007 at 06:51 PM
actually, a member PM me about the evo40 and he got it quickly. sayang mura naman diba meron kana sana collection of wharf floorstanders... :D

i was looking for an evo30 previously coz it might offer better performance than the diamond 9.5, given it's a notch higher in the wharfe quality level. i have a height limit to observe kasi coz of the pj screen so the evo40 will be a tight fit. the 9.5 and evo30 is about the same height as it is with the 9.6 and evo40. haven't heard the 40 yet but i think i will stay with my diamond 9.6 given the separate dome mid of the latter.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Trig on Sep 24, 2007 at 08:51 PM
nag-semi audiotion ako ng speakers kanina. nde ako audiophile so pasensya na hehe

Q-acous. 1020(tested w/o subs) - out of my price range. Pero very clear yung sounds nya pero kelangan ng subs para sa bass. parang mas-bagay sya sa music

wharfe 9.1 (tested w/o subs) - kht walang subs ok sya. good for both music and ht. Parang floorstander kung magperform. may nakasabay akong fellow pdvd member pero nde ko natanong yung name. 9.1 daw gamit nya dati at bitin nga daw yung sw150. he sugested us audio.

Mordaunt carnival 3(not sure basta yng bs) - parang talo sya sa quality ng sound compared sa wharf. parang loud lng sya. nung sinamahan ng carnival 9, nagimprove but I still prefer the wharfs

Mordaunt carnival 6/7 + carnival 9 - maganda sya pero umiiwas ako sa fs kc alanganin sa room ko at sa budget ko.

Jamo - tested several models, mura + pogi pero nde ko nagustuhan. yun lng hehe


So far, eto yung balak ko,

9.1
9cs
9dfs
cardinal 9? us audio?

subs nlng yung hindi ako makadecide. hindi ko pa natry yung sw150 pero based sa feedback dito, bitin daw. Patulong naman mga wharfe fanatics  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Philjonc on Sep 25, 2007 at 06:35 AM
ok yan set-up na naisip mo, wharfs.For me when you talk about Mordaunts, I prefer the avant series specially yung 902i BS which is highly rated. Maliit lang pero very wide soundstage pwede kahit audio maganda. The carnivals are lively, makalansing ok pang HT application mejo manipis lang lalo na yung center. For me kasi the life of HT is in the center and subs eh. Dapat malaki sound coming from the center speaker para buo yung labas ng boses di masakit sa tenga. Meron weight. I dont know jamo pero I dont think ok yung nilalabas nila sa mga mall, I saw one which has very cheap construction.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bobskiee on Sep 25, 2007 at 02:51 PM
nice story archie, same nga pala tayo setup ang kaiba lang ang sub. btw... hows the performance ng velodyne vx-10 and how much?
Hi guys!

Newbie po ako dito... and lurked around on what is the good setup for me. And below is my short kwento

At first I'm leaning towards AM-10 ng Bose and when I'm in a shop for a good AVR, meron ako nakasabay sa 5th ave sa ParkSquare1 and he told me to register dito sa PinoyDVD. And I'm very glad I did! I was able to read some post regarding BOSE AM-10, so medyo nagiba ng konti ang aking pananaw. Well, even before my brother is discouraging me to get Bose AM-10, to pricey daw and sub-level performance. I also got the chance to read about THE HOME THEATER store here in Makati. Paid them a visit during lunch time, talked to Erica and Butch and they were very helpful to me and they are very much eager to do auditions for me. Then returned in the afternoon with my brother who knows alot in Audio setup... then before I knew it my house is rocking already. hehhehehe

THanks very much to the ideas and learning from the masters... buti na lang at nakapag basa basa ako dito I ended up having a very good setup and the best part is di nagasgas ang Credit Card ko! hehehe


here is my setup
Denon 1507
Wharfedale 9.1, 9cs, 9dfs
velodyne vx-10

Archie
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Trig on Sep 25, 2007 at 04:36 PM
Sir bobskiee, ano po yung subs na gamit mo?


I've been hearing a lot of good things about dtx 4.10. san po ngtitinda ng mura nito saka san po pwede i-audition? mas maganda ba ito kesa carnival 9 at wharf sw-150?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: archiep on Sep 26, 2007 at 09:05 AM
nice story archie, same nga pala tayo setup ang kaiba lang ang sub. btw... hows the performance ng velodyne vx-10 and how much?

Oks naman po ang performance ng Vx-10S2 happy naman po ako sa kanya...

Got it for around 14k ata discounted price...

Archie
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kane on Sep 26, 2007 at 09:23 AM
i used to own a wharf sw150.  IMO, its ok for music but medyo bitin when it comes to ht. Especialy when you crank it up.  I replaced it with dtx 4.15 which i got from a fellow pdvd member.  I immediately saw the difference, lalo na sa size.  Its really huge and ok sya, esp for ht, ang lakas and could go really low.  Pag sa music, boomy, but you can always tone it down.  But i don't really use a sub for music, so ok lang.  You can try to look for this sub sa marketplace.  Sa groupbuy kasi nila nabili to and im not sure if dai-ichi still makes them.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Trig on Sep 26, 2007 at 10:00 AM
naku sobrang laki po kc ng 4.15. balak ko sana 4.10 lng or 4.12 cguro kung mas ok sya sa sw-150.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kane on Sep 26, 2007 at 10:33 AM
naku sobrang laki po kc ng 4.15. balak ko sana 4.10 lng or 4.12 cguro kung mas ok sya sa sw-150.

you're right.  sobra laki nung 4.15.  i suggest mga 12 inch if may mahanap ka.  Mahirap na mabitin.  Mas lalo mapapalaki gastos. You can always tone it down naman. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Sep 26, 2007 at 10:38 AM
Sir Trig:

Sa tingin ko, you have to factor in the room size first before making your decision. 

SW-150 performs well in small rooms.  Sayang kung OK na pala sa yo ang SW-150 kasi it has a good design, has good materials, and has a very good price (medyo underpowered nga lang). 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dyerds on Sep 26, 2007 at 11:15 PM
If you are on a budget sir and looking for a good performing sub you can try Velo subs. Try nyo po sa The Home Theater sa Tordesillas, Makati if you have time. You can call tell them that you want to audition some equipment.

VX10 po sa tingin ko is for people who is for clarity kasi po hindi sya ganun ka-boomy pero the sub really do his job (This is what I have now and I'm very much satisfied.) and budget wise...okay na okay.
CHT-10r sub is the man sir. You can't really ask more on this sub. Budget wise...if you have it...it's around P25k


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Trig on Sep 27, 2007 at 12:23 AM
Sir Trig:

Sa tingin ko, you have to factor in the room size first before making your decision. 

SW-150 performs well in small rooms.  Sayang kung OK na pala sa yo ang SW-150 kasi it has a good design, has good materials, and has a very good price (medyo underpowered nga lang). 


yung room ko po sa tingin ko around 9x10 or 8x9 ft. nde ko alam kung anu sa sq.m yun  ??? yung ceiling around 11-12ft cguro. I have no idea kng ilang inch dapat bilhin ko na subs at kung anong brand ang pagpipiliian. any sugestions?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Sep 27, 2007 at 01:34 AM

In home theater, a room not exceeding 12 square meters is considered a small room.  Your room is about 9 square meters.

For a small room, I recommend a 10 inch sub.  Suggested brands -- mid-priced: Velodyne, Klipsch; low-priced: Wharfe.

Stay away from Mordaunt-Short.  Terrible service. http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=42532.0 (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=42532.0)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Trig on Sep 27, 2007 at 02:58 AM
Sir, san po available ang velo vx-10s2?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Sep 27, 2007 at 03:00 AM
i'm sure everyone will point you to SGT's The Home Theater. look for butch.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: r_Y_@_n on Sep 27, 2007 at 10:02 PM
Sir, san po available ang velo vx-10s2?

i think architectural audio also has the Velo VX10S2...  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Ferl on Sep 28, 2007 at 08:57 AM
tama sa SGT. i got mine from there through butch ayos ka deal.

i'm sure everyone will point you to SGT's The Home Theater. look for butch.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Sep 29, 2007 at 12:57 PM
someone bought a 9.1 last week! magparamdam ka naman!  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kingkydoo on Sep 30, 2007 at 07:40 AM
Sirs, saan ang SGT? (What does SGT mean ? :))
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Ferl on Sep 30, 2007 at 08:18 AM
Sirs, saan ang SGT? (What does SGT mean ? :))

try this one i hope this one will help you.

http://www.hometheater.com.ph/contact.htm
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mm2002 on Sep 30, 2007 at 08:32 AM
 ;D ;D ;D Thanks Sir Jojo for lending me your Diamond 9.1  (8 months) lalong kumikinang habang tumatagal, may kapalit na bro 2 sets of 9.1,  so far so good.  Good Buy din yung wharfs from Sir Stoned lalo na yung 9.3 swerte nung nagmamayari  :D, kumpleto na ata diamond series ko from Diamond 7 to 9 series  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Sep 30, 2007 at 11:36 AM
Aba, not one but two pairs pa!...  ;D ;D ;D

sige kunin ko na 9.1 ko hehehe...




Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: theblue on Oct 22, 2007 at 06:34 AM
Haha! just seen this perfect site for me! Talk about wharfedales! Kaka set-up ko lang ng Home theater sound system which consists of pure wharfies.

Wharfedale 9.1 for front L/R
Wharfedale 9.CS for Center channel
Wharfedale 9.DFS for surround channel

I have an improvised subwoofer which consists of an older JVC analog amplifier which drives one 8' Acoustic Research speaker.

Sound Rocks! Feel free to ask me or check out my stuff!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Rangerdog on Oct 22, 2007 at 01:31 PM
Hi!  I am new here but definitely not a newbie in our mutual quest for good audio reproduction in the home.

Although I posted a new thread in the Amp section, I felt that this thread could offer me some help.

You see, I am bitten by your so-called SARS and I find it increasingly hard to resist the temptation (!#*?) to buy the topdog of the range, the Wharfedale 9.6.  Before deciding on it, however, I am researching on a good amp/ cd match.

One contender I researched on is the amp/ cd combination from an old name -Onkyo.  Onkyo has developed a Class D amp (supposed to be very efficient) topology.  So far, the reviews I read on the net are very encouraging /positive, to say the least.

I am referring to the A 9755 / A 9555 / A 9355 integrateds and the Wolfson DAC powered DX 7555 CD player.

One link I could show you: http://stereophile.com/integratedamps/907onk/

Please, if you have any information about this amp / cd combination, do reply.  Sana nga, it they are already available in the Philippines.

I have a BIG hunch it will be a very good match for the 9.6


Thank you.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Oct 22, 2007 at 09:06 PM
Hey Rangerdog!

When searching for a receiver I was able to audition some Onkyo's with 9.6's ;D  During auditioning I also auditioned Denon receivers.  I am pleased to say that I am very happy with the Denon-Wharfedale match ;D It is what I decided to get,  they've been with me for almost a year now and have had no regrets.  Like you said, Top Dog for me was also Top Bang for the buck ;D  Always Trust the Ears and Good Luck on your quest ;D


Welcome to PinoyDVD!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Rangerdog on Oct 23, 2007 at 12:01 PM
Hi Blackie,

Good you didn't regret your purchase (buyer's remorse) - it must be a terrific sounding system.  I am just wondering, what Denon model are you using now?  I believe since you have a HT setup, the 9.6 are your main LR speakers. 

For my needs, I plan to use the 9.6 for a stereo setup using the Onkyo amp / cdp. I already have my 5.1 rig using Tannoy MX2s and NAD 752 which, I would hasten to add, is not too shabby sounding either.

By the way, I did a bit of a research, a phone call here and there and I discovered that the Onkyo combo is already in the Philippines (Onkyo-B&W Showroom, The West Wing Bldg, West Avenue, QC).  Together, they cost P 75K, about the same cost in US dollars.  I believe I can get a better price by haggling.  Will report on the combination if I get my hands on these babies.

Best,
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Rangerdog on Oct 23, 2007 at 12:05 PM
Ooopps!

Bumblebee actually led me to the Onkyo site in QC.   I also posted in the Amp forum, pala.  Thanks again, Bumblebee!

Rangerdog
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Oct 23, 2007 at 10:36 PM
Hey Rangerdog!

Yes they are primarily for home theater.  I got a "basic" 1707 Denon.  Lately i have been listening to a lot of music though, and I don't know if it't just my ears but the sound and speakers seem to be sounding better though time ;D  Well it doesn't seem that budget will be a consraint for you,  do keep in mind that at the end of the day regardless of all the inputs you get here, it's only you whose ears you have to satisfy ;D ;D ;D

Cheers!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Rangerdog on Oct 25, 2007 at 01:18 PM
So true, Blackie, my ears and my wallet are of primary consideration. 

Anyway, I am keeping my options open for another AV receiver, either a Denon or HK.  I've read a lot of raves in the HK camp driving Wharfes.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audioworld on Oct 25, 2007 at 05:58 PM
So true, Blackie, my ears and my wallet are of primary consideration. 

Anyway, I am keeping my options open for another AV receiver, either a Denon or HK.  I've read a lot of raves in the HK camp driving Wharfes.

Good day!

We have a pre-owned prestine almost brand new HK AVR 145 and wer just selling it for P16,500 cash if your interested please feel free to call us at 732-7716 or 742-6843.

Cheers,
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on Oct 28, 2007 at 05:38 PM
Yesteday I kissed goodbye my 9.5 to my officemate, was kept in the box more than a year now. It went with my AMC 3025a integrated amp, it's small in size and rating but has lot of guts to drive the wafees crazy when I demoed to my friend. In just a couple of tracks from Audio CD, Santana Live DVD  and few tracks from Queen's LP in analog sound. It put a Big grin to friend's face and deal is closed. another friend of mine called that afternoon and told me that he dropping by to pick-up the waffe but told him that sorry, it's already taken just few hours in the morning.  :(  :(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Oct 28, 2007 at 09:23 PM
Upgrading gear Audiojunkie? ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on Oct 28, 2007 at 09:58 PM
Upgrading gear Audiojunkie? ;D ;D ;D

Nope, got the 9.5 from dealer's close-out and used for 3 months warranty period then put backed in the box for more than a year now. I'm very satisfied with my paradigm studio 60 v2 use in my combi Music/HT set-up. only lately i decided to let it go and use the fund for other project.  :(  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Oct 29, 2007 at 04:24 AM
Wohoa! Nakaparadigm naman pala eh!  Those are a great set of speakers!  was just listening to a pair at the Paradigm showroom at Shang the other day.  It was just like Lisa Lauren was singing right in front of me!!! "then something happened to me, that's some kind of wonderful.........." ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: allan1836 on Nov 04, 2007 at 04:10 PM
nag-semi audiotion ako ng speakers kanina. nde ako audiophile so pasensya na hehe

Q-acous. 1020(tested w/o subs) - out of my price range. Pero very clear yung sounds nya pero kelangan ng subs para sa bass. parang mas-bagay sya sa music

wharfe 9.1 (tested w/o subs) - kht walang subs ok sya. good for both music and ht. Parang floorstander kung magperform. may nakasabay akong fellow pdvd member pero nde ko natanong yung name. 9.1 daw gamit nya dati at bitin nga daw yung sw150. he sugested us audio.

Mordaunt carnival 3(not sure basta yng bs) - parang talo sya sa quality ng sound compared sa wharf. parang loud lng sya. nung sinamahan ng carnival 9, nagimprove but I still prefer the wharfs

Mordaunt carnival 6/7 + carnival 9 - maganda sya pero umiiwas ako sa fs kc alanganin sa room ko at sa budget ko.

Jamo - tested several models, mura + pogi pero nde ko nagustuhan. yun lng hehe


So far, eto yung balak ko,

9.1
9cs
9dfs
cardinal 9? us audio?

subs nlng yung hindi ako makadecide. hindi ko pa natry yung sw150 pero based sa feedback dito, bitin daw. Patulong naman mga wharfe fanatics  ;D


Have you acquired a sub already? If not, try out the US Audio 512L MK2. I am using one with a 9.1 speakers for pure audio set-up and believe me with the right "timpla" of the sub, it's really a wonderful combo !! I find the US Audio more "gumagapang" (deeper bass) than dtx-4.15 and if you lower than xover setting to around 60-70hz, you will achieve the puch and faster transient most like in the DTX 4.15.
The nice thing about the US Audio, is, if you want a more softer bass then just raise the xover to around 100hz or set it to the highest level and let the avr sub-out xover do the filtering. Also, you will be surprised with its power ability.  ;)

By the way, I can really vouch for the excellent performance of the 9.1. It's really very transparent with a big and wide soundstage. I think its a lot better than my previous 9.2  and Pi10 for music. It's also warmer and has more natural timber in the highs than the MS 902i and AE Evo1. The only "catch" with the 9.1  is that, you should definitely have a good source and amp to drive it. Its a very tricky speakers to drive and very transparent to show inferior qualities of the upstream equipments. It would not show its maximum potentials when driven by an entry level receiver. Better use a integrated or 2ch power amp for music. It showed its capabilities when I partnered it with a tube pre-amp and a ss power amp. Adding the US Audio active sub, still, raised it to another level.Letting me feel like I'm listening to hi-end fs !! ;D Just my thought on this excellent 9.1.  ;)     
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Nov 04, 2007 at 09:55 PM
uy... boss allan. nabuo mo na pala ang ht setup mo. i can only imagine how good your 9.1 is currently sounding given na ang ganda naman nung pi-10 nung in-audition ko sa inyo.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: allan1836 on Nov 05, 2007 at 12:57 PM
Hi gearhead! Actually downgrade me sa ht to a TEAC htib but substituted the teac sub with a US Audio sub at viola ! Prang separates narin tunog. Hehe ...  ::) The 9.1 is being used solely for music with the Sony power amp. Know what I discovered?! Dati dba naka straight un cdp sa power amp but I placed a tube pre-amp now at ang laki ng improvement specially sa soundstage at highs. Maybe this is one reason bakit parang mas ok itong 9.1 but kung nandito pa yung Pi10 baka ok din lalabas.  :)

Have you found the right speakers for your HK?  ;) 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: greyman on Nov 19, 2007 at 01:56 AM
i recently got the new onkyo tx-sr605. my current speaker setup uses 5.1 wharfedale modus set except for the subwoofer. i'm using a 100watt sony active to replace the wharfedale passive subs.

i'm seriously considering replacing my speakers to get more out of my new receiver. i'm still happy with modus set though.

i'm looking at upgrading to the wharfedale diamond 9.1 biapmed for the fronts, 9cs, 9dfs and sw150.

as an option the mordaunt short avant set seems attractive, especially the 309 subs whose sound i like very much.

my question is will biamping the fronts sound better than getting a full 7.1 speaker system?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Nov 19, 2007 at 02:54 PM
Bi-amping as I know is using 2 amps to power your speakers HF & LF separately. The problem is onkyo 605 does not have pre-outs for power amps.

And if you are referring to the assignable bi-amp feature thats coming up on the recent receivers, I may be wrong but ImHO cant see how a receiver dividing its power rating into 7 channels from one power supply can give the results of a real bi-amp (w/ 2 power supplies). The feature only sounds like marketing strategy to me.

I have bi-amped my setup before but with a 5 channel power amp for the LF and my HK6 series for the HF, on all 3 front speakers. Words cant express how they sounded so eto na lang:

 :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Nov 19, 2007 at 04:06 PM
i recently got the new onkyo tx-sr605. my current speaker setup uses 5.1 wharfedale modus set except for the subwoofer. i'm using a 100watt sony active to replace the wharfedale passive subs.

i'm seriously considering replacing my speakers to get more out of my new receiver. i'm still happy with modus set though.

i'm looking at upgrading to the wharfedale diamond 9.1 biapmed for the fronts, 9cs, 9dfs and sw150.

as an option the mordaunt short avant set seems attractive, especially the 309 subs whose sound i like very much.

my question is will biamping the fronts sound better than getting a full 7.1 speaker system?

Baka bi-wiring ang ibig mong sabihin?  With bi-wiring, you need only one AVR..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: silhouette on Nov 19, 2007 at 05:47 PM
My question is, is it woth bi-amping a bookshelf speaker like 9.1?  Or it is much appreciated on a little higher big brother speakers?  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Nov 19, 2007 at 06:09 PM
short answer, it won't hurt if you do. whether the difference is audible is the issue.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Nov 20, 2007 at 11:53 AM
don't they look so mich like our babies...

(http://www.stereomojo.com/images/LSA1S.jpg)

these are the $1,000 per pair  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sanabagan on Nov 20, 2007 at 02:19 PM
guys, got a question....i've got diamond 9.2's for about 3 months now (coupled with a marantz 4500) and i've been playing it for about an hour each day. it sounds great, can play loud if you want, pretty warm characteristic....but i feel na kulang siya sa clarity/details kahit with original music cd's or even dvds...something which i heard from the demo units in shang and even in ambassador. tried changing positions, even tried playing it without the other speakers/sub pero ganun pa din. any other tips/suggestions? TIA
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Trig on Nov 20, 2007 at 02:34 PM
Ussually kasi sa mga showroom, maganda yung room acoustics + maganda yung av receiver + maganda yung cd player na gamit
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Nov 20, 2007 at 02:47 PM
oops, i was about to say that. the cd/dvd player plays a significant role in how the total system will sound. also, the diamond 9.2 isn't known for being detailed. if you read the full diamond 9 thread, it's even been said that it's "ngongo" although obviously this can be a very subjective impression.. the 9.1 is more detailed from what i've read so far. but then it has it's own set of 'problem', like needing a higher powered amp to really sing and extend its bottom end. trig is right also about the room acoustics. i have auditioned most my gears sa showroom (spectra, 5th avenue, SGT, audioworld, etc), and iba talaga pagdating sa bahay. i've learned to live with the shortcomings na lang.

for the meantime, you can take a look at your current player. ano na nga ba player mo ngayon?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sanabagan on Nov 20, 2007 at 08:00 PM
thanks for the input. well, from the start naman i expected na iba talaga ang environment sa showroom altho nakapakinig nga ako sa ambassador na wala naman talaga audition/listening room and it sounded crisp and detailed to me at the time. they had a kenwood (?) avr and a pioneer player. mine is a philips dvd player (cant recall the model... it's the one with the usb).
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Nov 20, 2007 at 09:19 PM
as i suspected. i switched to a pioneer player from the philips 5500S and i'm quite happy with it. they say there's still some mileage to be had going with a dedicated player from the likes of NAD, CA Azur, Marantz, Denon, etc. i'm not there yet, but maybe soon???

(anyway, medyo OT na yata tayo. maybe you can post your query sa "setting up" thread (?) para we can dissect your dilemna in-depth).
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Nov 21, 2007 at 07:41 AM
Asul!

Beauteeeeeeeeeful speaker stands! :o
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sanabagan on Nov 21, 2007 at 05:52 PM
as i suspected. i switched to a pioneer player from the philips 5500S and i'm quite happy with it. they say there's still some mileage to be had going with a dedicated player from the likes of NAD, CA Azur, Marantz, Denon, etc. i'm not there yet, but maybe soon???

ganun? once you think you've completed your set-up, something comes up to telll you that it's not enough....haay, ito na yata yung sinasabi nilang once you're bitten, there's no going back/escape from the hobby... haaay!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: threadlock on Nov 22, 2007 at 12:19 PM
guys, got a question....i've got diamond 9.2's for about 3 months now (coupled with a marantz 4500) and i've been playing it for about an hour each day. it sounds great, can play loud if you want, pretty warm characteristic....but i feel na kulang siya sa clarity/details kahit with original music cd's or even dvds...something which i heard from the demo units in shang and even in ambassador. tried changing positions, even tried playing it without the other speakers/sub pero ganun pa din. any other tips/suggestions? TIA

It may relate to room modes, modal ringing and reverberation time. Search the web and find more details about the topic. This is especially true for small rooms like mine (10ft x 16ft). From most articles that i've read, even the most high-end speakers will have skewed frequency response in small rooms which can result in lack of musical detail.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: 3j on Nov 23, 2007 at 01:16 PM
Hi mga Sir,

Just want to ask How much is the lowest price of brand new Diamond CS (cheery flavor?)

Thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ProtegeManiac on Nov 23, 2007 at 04:04 PM
guys, got a question....i've got diamond 9.2's for about 3 months now (coupled with a marantz 4500) and i've been playing it for about an hour each day. it sounds great, can play loud if you want, pretty warm characteristic....but i feel na kulang siya sa clarity/details kahit with original music cd's or even dvds...something which i heard from the demo units in shang and even in ambassador. tried changing positions, even tried playing it without the other speakers/sub pero ganun pa din. any other tips/suggestions? TIA

aside from acoustic treatments and room characteristics, also consider your listening position when you auditioned the speakers. if you were standing close to them during a "demo" (vs a real listening session) instead of sitting down at considerable distance and at a certain ear to tweeter height ratio (Im inventing terms here but you know what I mean), the former will have you getting more detail. system response is affected not simply by amp or speaker response curves but by output power relative to room size.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sanabagan on Nov 23, 2007 at 04:13 PM
noted, guys. thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: rodel5 on Nov 23, 2007 at 04:15 PM
Hi mga Sir,

Just want to ask How much is the lowest price of brand new Diamond CS (cheery flavor?)

Thanks.

cherry flavor? try mercury drugs,meron ata dun.ah eh ano ba ung tinatanong mo?kala ko condom.hehehe,cheers... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: RXV on Nov 24, 2007 at 08:14 AM
Hi mga Sir,

Just want to ask How much is the lowest price of brand new Diamond CS (cheery flavor?)

Thanks.

The standard SRP is around P4500. Try asking SGT Home Theater. Mas mura yata dun ng konti  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: 3j on Nov 24, 2007 at 08:53 AM
Thank you very much @RXV@ :) Regards.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: RXV on Nov 24, 2007 at 10:01 AM
You're welcome bro. Also, you can also opt to buy pre-owned gears.
Meron dito nagbebenta ng 9CS for P3k before, mint condition. In rare situations, even lower ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Nov 24, 2007 at 12:48 PM
well, madalas nga me FS na diamonds sa marketplace... pero yung cherry-flavored, este, cherry-colored pala  ;D eh medyo me kahirapan mahanap. even sa dealers minsan for order pa. anyway, my diamonds are cherry too, and i love this color.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: RXV on Nov 24, 2007 at 01:39 PM
well, madalas nga me FS na diamonds sa marketplace... pero yung cherry-flavored, este, cherry-colored pala  ;D eh medyo me kahirapan mahanap. even sa dealers minsan for order pa. anyway, my diamonds are cherry too, and i love this color.

Mas madaling bagayin yung black color diamonds sa room/equipment.
But I do agree, mas mukhang "expensive/authentic" ang cherry color. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Nov 24, 2007 at 02:06 PM
First choice ko din ang cherry.  Mas pogi na, mas bagay pa sa AV rack and furniture ko.

May cherry sa suki ko (Spectra), pero wala daw available na cherry for surround speakers.  I asked other shops, wala daw talagang complete set Diamond 9 na cherry kasi wala talagang cherry na Diamond 9 surrounds sa Pinas.

Black na lang kinuha ko sa Spectra para matching ang buong set.  Besides, black lang ang available sa Klipsch subwoofer ko, so mas OK pa rin ang black na Diamond 9 set sa akin para match lahat ng kulay ng speakers.   
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Nov 24, 2007 at 02:52 PM
diamond bipole surrounds are available in black only, whether in pinas or otherwise. there are available dfs surrounds though in other colors. eto yung mga dfs for the evo series yata, with the 5.25" woofers as against the 9.dfs' 4" ones. i saw one sa greenhills dati for around P9k, cherry colored. mas malaki siya talaga than the 9.dfs.

for the diamonds, if you want to go with the complementing color all throughout, go with the 9.SR, or better yet, the d9.1 if you have the space for it at the back.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: 3j on Nov 26, 2007 at 12:59 PM
Thank you so much po for your very informative comments... I inquired from HT stores in Makati and Alabang area the cheapest is Php 4,275 cash basis for the Diamond CS cheery flavor ;) pero i-order pa, availability of the unit is after 2days :) , other is Php 4,800 pwede cash/charge. mura na po ba eto para sa brand new? Regards po.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Nov 26, 2007 at 01:14 PM
@3j sa hi-fi lounge ka ba nag-inquire?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: 3j on Nov 26, 2007 at 03:25 PM
@squtt3r : you've got pm Sir. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: busabos on Nov 26, 2007 at 06:37 PM
I'll be buying 9.4 tomorrow which of these would be the best match HK 3380, Denon 1797, Onkyo 504.  I will only use this for stereo listening, actually I'll be connecting this to my PC.  My prference would be 70% movies 30% music.

TIA...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: greyman on Nov 26, 2007 at 07:39 PM
Bi-amping as I know is using 2 amps to power your speakers HF & LF separately. The problem is onkyo 605 does not have pre-outs for power amps.

And if you are referring to the assignable bi-amp feature thats coming up on the recent receivers, I may be wrong but ImHO cant see how a receiver dividing its power rating into 7 channels from one power supply can give the results of a real bi-amp (w/ 2 power supplies). The feature only sounds like marketing strategy to me.

I have bi-amped my setup before but with a 5 channel power amp for the LF and my HK6 series for the HF, on all 3 front speakers. Words cant express how they sounded so eto na lang:

 :o :o :o :o :o

thanks for the reply matzter.

the sr605 can use the surround back channels for biamping the fronts. it will be limited to playing 5.1 for zone 1 though.

will biwiring make the same improvements? which will sound better a biamped 5.1 system or a biwired 7.1 system?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Nov 27, 2007 at 11:56 AM
the sr605 can use the surround back channels for biamping the fronts. it will be limited to playing 5.1 for zone 1 though.

will biwiring make the same improvements? which will sound better a biamped 5.1 system or a biwired 7.1 system?

IMhO, improvements are more audible with biamping, I didnt hear much difference with biwiring. On a receiver's viewpoint of dividing its power to 7 channels, expect only around 30-40w / bi-amped channel, not its advertised 100+ watts.

I have a 7.1 setup. I rarely hear the 6th & 7th channel even if I activate the extra surrounds through matrix mode. It adds an extra WOW to some surround scenes... but once in a blue moon. A well placed 5.1 is enough if your room is not huge.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: stipen22 on Nov 27, 2007 at 12:31 PM
Quote
I'll be buying 9.4 tomorrow which of these would be the best match HK 3380, Denon 1797, Onkyo 504.  I will only use this for stereo listening, actually I'll be connecting this to my PC.  My prference would be 70% movies 30% music.

TIA...

I think HK 3380 would perform better than the other two, since its a stereo AVR all of its guts will be use to drive the Diamond 9.4. BTW I have the same setup as you've planning right now but my preference is 90/10 (music/movies). Imho this would not suffice to your preference of 70/30 movies and music respectively, you need a 5.1 setup to fully captivate into the movie scene but for music it would be great since common music format nowdays are in stereo format.

My two cents..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: busabos on Nov 27, 2007 at 12:46 PM
I think HK 3380 would perform better than the other two, since its a stereo AVR all of its guts will be use to drive the Diamond 9.4. BTW I have the same setup as you've planning right now but my preference is 90/10 (music/movies). Imho this would not suffice to your preference of 70/30 movies and music respectively, you need a 5.1 setup to fully captivate into the movie scene but for music it would be great since common music format nowdays are in stereo format.

My two cents..

I might have a change of plan.  What if I'll use 9.5, would it be better? or the amp will not be able to drive these speakers since the power rating is double as that of the 9.4
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Nov 27, 2007 at 01:12 PM
the 9.5's are actually quite easy to drive. even if you begin with an entry level amp it is capable of providing a satisfying performance. it will actually sound better and better though as you upgrade or change your amp to more powerful ones.

again, we're talking here of a certain price point. there might be better sounding speakers but for more cash outlay.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on Nov 27, 2007 at 04:57 PM
When I demoed my 9.5 to a friend who was interested to buy, I used only AMC integ. amp with 30w power and 30 amp rating. at about 10 o'clock vol. level it thumped like it's getting 200w.. at the end of the session it was Sold...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Nov 27, 2007 at 05:03 PM
let's say I have 9.6, 9.cm and 9.1 for a 5.1 channel set-up how much power does my AVR (or 5 channel amp) need to have in order to properly drive them?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: stipen22 on Nov 27, 2007 at 05:17 PM
Quote
let's say I have 9.6, 9.cm and 9.1 for a 5.1 channel set-up how much power does my AVR (or 5 channel amp) need to have in order to properly drive them?

a mid-level AVR will make them perform rather than just drive. but if you want more than just perform hooked the mid-level AVR with a power amp. This is what I've learned here from the more experience member.  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Nov 27, 2007 at 05:20 PM
audio would be coming from my htpc. mid level AVR vs Bada 5 channel amp?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: stipen22 on Nov 27, 2007 at 05:47 PM
Quote
audio would be coming from my htpc. mid level AVR vs Bada 5 channel amp?
a Bada power amp hooked to a mid level AVR would be great. I'm sure the wharf set would be delighted with this setup.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Nov 27, 2007 at 06:01 PM
budget permits either the bada amp or a mid level AVR. which to choose?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Nov 28, 2007 at 11:23 AM
For me, if budget permits, get the mid level AVR (30+k class) first. AND still get a power amp later on.

The performance of the dedicated power amp will still (hands down) excel vs. any mid level receiver.

Quote
Taken from the reviewer Brian Florian of Secrets of Home Theater & Hi Fidelity while reviewing the new Onkyo 805:

In all common amplifier topologies, low-impedance loads have the inherent consequence of increased heat as the greater current (as opposed to voltage) is delivered.  Make no mistake: no matter how "good" a receiver is (no matter how much it costs), it cannot compete with separate power amplifiers for this reason.  There is simply too much crammed into one box.  Elaborate means of dissipating heat are possible, but they are expensive to the point of making the pursuit futile (i.e., you might as well just go the way of separates).


But the Mid level receiver's  decoder (DSP) is usually much better than the entry level ones w/ pre outs. So with these 2 combined, you have the performance of a 100+k receiver (w/o the bells & whistles).
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: demented_ on Dec 07, 2007 at 09:23 AM
I have an ancient Sakura AV-388 amplifier. Will the Wharfedale 9.1 Bookshelf speakers + Wharfedale center + Wharfedale rear speakers work just fine? Baka next time na kasi ako magpalit ng amp. Wala pang budget. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: theblue on Dec 07, 2007 at 10:02 AM
I have an ancient Sakura AV-388 amplifier. Will the Wharfedale 9.1 Bookshelf speakers + Wharfedale center + Wharfedale rear speakers work just fine? Baka next time na kasi ako magpalit ng amp. Wala pang budget. 

I can't seem to get any specs in Internet about your Sakura AV-388. Care to give some numbers?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Dec 07, 2007 at 10:57 AM
locally made ba yung Sakura?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Dec 07, 2007 at 10:59 AM
I have an ancient Sakura AV-388 amplifier. Will the Wharfedale 9.1 Bookshelf speakers + Wharfedale center + Wharfedale rear speakers work just fine? Baka next time na kasi ako magpalit ng amp. Wala pang budget. 

even if it is just a low wattage amp (surround ito, i assume) it will do for the moment. BUT... even it is just a small bookshelf, there's some mileage to be had pa rin by driving it with a much much more powerful amp. but that can wait for budget availability. buti na nga yan save ka muna ng save para you won't settle for the really entry-level lang. in this hobby rin kasi, you get what you pay for... up to a certain extent (think Monster Cable, or Bose  ;) ).
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kt on Dec 07, 2007 at 03:33 PM
For me, if budget permits, get the mid level AVR (30+k class) first. AND still get a power amp later on.

The performance of the dedicated power amp will still (hands down) excel vs. any mid level receiver.


But the Mid level receiver's  decoder (DSP) is usually much better than the entry level ones w/ pre outs. So with these 2 combined, you have the performance of a 100+k receiver (w/o the bells & whistles).

hi sir matz! how about for an entry level avr + the 5ch bada power amp? would it be ok still? no plans to upgrade my avr yet til i get an HD or BD player....tnx  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Dec 08, 2007 at 12:44 PM
hi sir matz! how about for an entry level avr + the 5ch bada power amp? would it be ok still? no plans to upgrade my avr yet til i get an HD or BD player....tnx  :D

Of course, its ok. I believe slow piece by piece upgrade is gratifying w/ every upgrade, as compared to buying it all at once w/ only 1 gratification... :D

You can upgrade next time to higher model AVR's (w/ the new sound formats) when budget allows. For the amp , keep it for as long as you love watching HT (or until you are so oozing with moolah, you are going to high end gears), regardless of any format change.

With the new HD sound formats, your amp has more than enough capacity to bring out the extra resolution that weaker receivers cant.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kt on Dec 08, 2007 at 01:43 PM
^hi sir matz tnx again for the reply! we're all just waiting for your amps! hehe

one thing that im thinking about as well is what to upgrade 1st, whether to add a power amp with my existing entry level avr, OR get a mid level AVR with HD format (and add a power amp later on), OR change the speakers. because im planning to do all those as well but im wondering whats the best sequence to really see and experience the upgrades n improvment.

TIA! ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Dec 13, 2007 at 07:40 PM
finally made the purchase today  ;D

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/empoy/P1010031Small.jpg)



excited na sina htpc and lcdtv kaso undecided pa kung 5 channel bada amp or denon 1908

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/empoy/P1010014Small.jpg)

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: rodel5 on Dec 13, 2007 at 10:20 PM
WOW!!! sarap i break in yan
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Dec 14, 2007 at 04:59 PM
YEHEAH!  Congratulations on the new gear!  Go for the Denon! WOOOOHOOO! ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: threadlock on Dec 14, 2007 at 06:43 PM
I second the motion, go for the denon, 5 channel amp release is delayed as stated by sir matz, den post ka brief review ng Denon 1908  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Dec 14, 2007 at 08:37 PM
thanks sa mga recommendations! will give you guys an update tomorrow.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dmaximus on Dec 14, 2007 at 09:38 PM
thanks sa mga recommendations! will give you guys an update tomorrow.
congrats sir!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Dec 15, 2007 at 10:30 PM
walang stock ng Denon 1908 sa shop ni sir Nemesis sa Rob Pioneer. Wala din sa Sight and Sounds. Had to use this Yammy A-520 muna.


(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/empoy/P1010044Small.jpg)

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/empoy/P1010043Small.jpg)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: zedric on Dec 17, 2007 at 12:33 AM
hello gurus!

my 1st post, contemplating on wharf 9.6 & cm or 9.5 & cs, use is 70 ht/30 music.
ito na ata cheapest na imported branded, kung may ibang cheaper speaker na ok, open ako.

what receiver should i get para lumabas ang full potential ng 9.6 or 9.5?

1st ht project ko, medyo limited budget, 50k, kasama sub.
 
maraming salamat!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: busabos on Dec 17, 2007 at 01:01 AM
hello gurus!

my 1st post, contemplating on wharf 9.6 & cm or 9.5 & cs, use is 70 ht/30 music.
ito na ata cheapest na imported branded, kung may ibang cheaper speaker na ok, open ako.

what receiver should i get para lumabas ang full potential ng 9.6 or 9.5?

1st ht project ko, medyo limited budget, 50k, kasama sub.
 
maraming salamat!!!

Harman or Yamaha, go to Spectra and audition, they carry both brands.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: masterjericho on Dec 19, 2007 at 07:36 PM
Harman or Yamaha, go to Spectra and audition, they carry both brands.

remember to get at least a high rated wattage to make these babies fully sing.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: skylynx888 on Dec 19, 2007 at 08:03 PM
hello gurus!

my 1st post, contemplating on wharf 9.6 & cm or 9.5 & cs, use is 70 ht/30 music.
ito na ata cheapest na imported branded, kung may ibang cheaper speaker na ok, open ako.

what receiver should i get para lumabas ang full potential ng 9.6 or 9.5?

1st ht project ko, medyo limited budget, 50k, kasama sub.
 
maraming salamat!!!

im currently using hk335 to power my 9.6!!! The best for me!!!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: demmet on Dec 19, 2007 at 09:20 PM
finally made the purchase today  ;D

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/empoy/P1010031Small.jpg)



excited na sina htpc and lcdtv kaso undecided pa kung 5 channel bada amp or denon 1908

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/empoy/P1010014Small.jpg)




pm how much is the damage  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Dec 19, 2007 at 10:17 PM
pm sent sir.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: silhouette on Dec 20, 2007 at 10:47 AM
@squatt3r. congrats bro on your new toys! break in break in na!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: czrocker on Dec 22, 2007 at 07:58 PM
i have notice that theirs a lot of praises for the 9.1, does it mean that the 9.1 performs better than its bigger brother the 9.2. i'm planning kasi to get the 9.2
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Dec 24, 2007 at 08:37 PM
@squatt3r. congrats bro on your new toys! break in break in na!!!


on-going ang break in....satisfied na ako sa tunog even without hooking up the sub. medyo matigas yung bass ng US Audio

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/empoy/PC240068Small.jpg)

powered by Onkyo TX-SR605
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/empoy/PC240074Small.jpg)

speaker stands na recycled
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/empoy/PC240072Small.jpg)

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Dec 25, 2007 at 04:13 AM

on-going ang break in....satisfied na ako sa tunog even without hooking up the sub. medyo matigas yung bass ng US Audio

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/empoy/PC240068Small.jpg)

suggestion lang po... invest in a good a/v rack wherein you can place your center speaker a bit higher and closer to your screen. kahit yung mga wooden rack lang sa makro, ok na yun. just have a general placement outline in your mind (or you can even draw it) before buying so you have an idea how you'll set it all up, including the wire routing. take measurements of your gear and the room also before getting one.

Quote
powered by Onkyo TX-SR605
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/empoy/PC240074Small.jpg)

can you give a few more words about the onkyo 605/wharfe 9.5 combo with regards sa ht and musical performance? TIA!


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Dec 25, 2007 at 06:32 PM
Quote from: gearhead
suggestion lang po... invest in a good a/v rack wherein you can place your center speaker a bit higher and closer to your screen. kahit yung mga wooden rack lang sa makro, ok na yun. just have a general placement outline in your mind (or you can even draw it) before buying so you have an idea how you'll set it all up, including the wire routing. take measurements of your gear and the room also before getting one.

can you give a few more words about the onkyo 605/wharfe 9.5 combo with regards sa ht and musical performance? TIA!




yes sir. planning stage pa din yung av rack. pero ipapasadya ko. console table tong temporary rack ko.
actually newbie lang ako and these are my first HT gears kaya di ako mapagcompare.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: The Analog Source on Dec 25, 2007 at 08:05 PM
yes sir. planning stage pa din yung av rack. pero ipapasadya ko. console table tong temporary rack ko.
actually newbie lang ako and these are my first HT gears kaya di ako mapagcompare.


Tama!!!! tapos benta mo sakin un console ng mura hehehe type ko :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Dec 25, 2007 at 10:57 PM
hehehe sa festival mall madaming ganung console table sa 4th flr. 3.5k ung bili ko a few months ago.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: The Analog Source on Dec 26, 2007 at 03:49 AM
uy thank you thank you sa refer.... naghahanap talaga ako ng ganun :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 27, 2007 at 01:38 PM
i have notice that theirs a lot of praises for the 9.1, does it mean that the 9.1 performs better than its bigger brother the 9.2. i'm planning kasi to get the 9.2

they both perform well. 9.2 creates more bass than 9.1 becoz of its woofer size. you can use the 9.2 as front and the 9.1 as rear.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 27, 2007 at 01:39 PM
remember to get at least a high rated wattage to make these babies fully sing.

Go for HK.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: demented_ on Dec 31, 2007 at 03:23 AM
OK ba ang Sakura-387a i-match sa ganito?

Whaferdale WH2 center and rear
Whaferdale front 9.1

Thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Philjonc on Dec 31, 2007 at 07:09 AM
OK ba ang Sakura-387a i-match sa ganito?

Whaferdale WH2 center and rear
Whaferdale front 9.1

Thanks.

look for someone using or selling these speakers and audition it using your amp.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: allan1836 on Jan 02, 2008 at 02:11 AM
i have notice that theirs a lot of praises for the 9.1, does it mean that the 9.1 performs better than its bigger brother the 9.2. i'm planning kasi to get the 9.2

I have used both and I think the 9.1 is better overall. If you have an active sub and you plan to set your avr front speaker setting to small the 9.1 is a very good choice specially for music.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: 3j on Jan 17, 2008 at 11:26 AM
Newbie here ... Help po mga gurus: Will there be an improvement in the performance of Daimaond 9.1 if I transfer this from being wallmounted to speaker stands? & what stand is best for this speaker? :)

Thanks in advance...

3j
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: allan1836 on Jan 17, 2008 at 03:37 PM
You'll definitely see an improvement when you place your 9.1 in a speakers stand and position it around 1ft. (minimum) away from the front wall and about 6-8ft. apart from each speaker. Positioning speakers depends on your listening position, size and shape of your room and other various factors like furnitures in the room, tv placement, etc.   
Most notable improvement will be the imaging and soundstaging and also a more balance frequency output from your speakers.
There are various related articles in the internet that will help you a lot on this matter.  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: 3j on Jan 17, 2008 at 04:21 PM
You'll definitely see an improvement when you place your 9.1 in a speakers stand and position it around 1ft. (minimum) away from the front wall and about 6-8ft. apart from each speaker. Positioning speakers depends on your listening position, size and shape of your room and other various factors like furnitures in the room, tv placement, etc.  
Most notable improvement will be the imaging and soundstaging and also a more balance frequency output from your speakers.
There are various related articles in the internet that will help you a lot on this matter.  ;)
 

 :) Thank you Sir allan1836 ...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dyzophoria on Jan 18, 2008 at 11:29 PM
Got my new toys  ;)

Break in time, thanks for squatt3r for referring me to Sir Butch  :)

9.6s for the fronts
(http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/1507/ht1ayy0.jpg)

9.1s for the rear :D
(http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7631/ht2atx2.jpg)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Jan 19, 2008 at 01:03 AM
glad to help sir :-)

enjoy your wharfes!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Jan 19, 2008 at 03:57 PM
Dyzophoria!

Beautiful Color, Beautiful Speakers!  Make them sing!

Congratulations on the new Acquisitions!

Cheers!

Blackie
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dj on Jan 19, 2008 at 05:28 PM
dyzophoria

congrats sir sa new speakers mo.

suggestion lang po baguhin mo placement ng center mo ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dyzophoria on Jan 19, 2008 at 10:51 PM
thanks guys!, even without being run in, this speakers really rock :D , ganda ng clarity and resolution nung Best of Voices Audiophile Cds, even without my sub, kayang kaya magbigay ng deep bass nung 9.6

@dj

Ok bro i'll try that, I was having second thoughts din about the placement, tinatamad ako nung una adjust yung wall mount nung tv,lolz, pero mukhang tama ka nag na kailangan ko lapit pa,hehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: johnrider999 on Jan 20, 2008 at 04:29 AM
dyzophoria, anong avr mo? ganda ng set up mo sir! enjoy...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dyzophoria on Jan 20, 2008 at 05:51 PM
@johnrider999

thanks for the compliment sir, im using my trusty ol HK avr 2000,hehe, i'm saving though to upgrade it na rin :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gunblade977 on Jan 21, 2008 at 04:04 PM
glad to help sir :-)

enjoy your wharfes!


sir pa pm naman din sana ng damage mo for your wharfes setup and kung saan mo nabili. Planning to have an all wharfes setup din eh. thanks .
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Jan 21, 2008 at 04:17 PM
Go for it Gunblade977!!!

I haVE dIamond fronts and hope to get 9.1's for the front and a CM for the center soon.... The 9.6's Iv've had for a year, no complaints whatsoever ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gunblade977 on Jan 21, 2008 at 04:25 PM
Thanks blackie, hope to get the funds this feb. By that time, sana mabili ko na rin ang HT setup ko.
Kaya hanap hanap ng mga Ok deals sa wharfes =)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Jan 21, 2008 at 06:02 PM
gunblade, please contact butchHT. tiga The Home Theater siya.


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gunblade977 on Jan 21, 2008 at 06:20 PM
@squatt3r tnx sir.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bhengko on Jan 28, 2008 at 03:31 PM
which is better for:

center:
cs, cm, cc or wh2?
 
surrounds:
sr, dfs or wh2?

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dyerds on Jan 29, 2008 at 12:12 AM
which is better for:

center:
cs, cm, cc or wh2?
 
surrounds:
sr, dfs or wh2?




Most people here in Wharfe thread prefer cm for the center. Sa surrounds okay ang DFS.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Jan 29, 2008 at 08:06 AM
I think the CM would be great too.  Try and consider also  the front and surround speakers you are going to use and see if the overall package meets/matches and satifies your taste ;D.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: threadlock on Jan 29, 2008 at 12:34 PM
which is better for:

center:
cs, cm, cc or wh2?
 
surrounds:
sr, dfs or wh2?



Depends on the fronts, for wharfe 9.5/9.1/9.3 I prefer to match with 9cs and dfs, for 9.6 better to match with 9cm and dfs.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bhengko on Jan 29, 2008 at 03:38 PM
will this be a good combination?

front: 9.1
center: cs
surr: dfs

thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jeyps11_c on Jan 29, 2008 at 05:09 PM
Just got my Diamond 9.1 and WH2 (surrounds and center) for my bedroom set up.
Entry level lang yng set up. I'll drive it with a Denon 1907 -- that I'll be getting from Sir Jeff this week :)

Sub na lang ang kulang ko...good to go na!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Jan 29, 2008 at 05:40 PM
will this be a good combination?

front: 9.1
center: cs
surr: dfs

thanks

sounding good already!  do you plan to get a subwoofer?  what amp will be driving these babies?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Miguel^ on Jan 29, 2008 at 07:47 PM
magkano na ba ang denon 1907 ngayon?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dyerds on Jan 29, 2008 at 08:07 PM
magkano na ba ang denon 1907 ngayon?

You can ask some of the av stores here in the forum about the price of 1907 but I think it's around 16k. I got mine last year from SGT (The Home Theater) but at a higher price kasi hindi pa naka-sale. :(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jeyps11_c on Jan 29, 2008 at 08:19 PM
It's running for 16.5K cash ngayon. Mas mataas pag card.
Feedback ng mga gurus dito it's a good AVR for starters.
Meron din Pre-out para sa future upgrades.
Ok din daw ito pang drive ng mga Wharf speakers :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bhengko on Jan 29, 2008 at 10:36 PM
sounding good already!  do you plan to get a subwoofer?  what amp will be driving these babies?

i plan to get a kenwood x9090d.
sa subwoofer ano pwede marecommend?
oks ba us audio?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mjct6210 on Feb 11, 2008 at 04:31 AM
newbie here,

i was wondering if wharfdale diamond 9 series speakers would perform well on mid level receivers such as the onkyo 605/705 or denon 2308/2808? may nabasa kasi ako sa ibang threads na whrfdales speakers are for entry level receivers daw?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Huddaf on Feb 11, 2008 at 05:16 AM
Daming me sakit ngayon ah! Bagong taon puro bagong gears! hehehehe

SARS Attack! baka me nagbebenta dyan ng bookshelf ha hehehehe PM na lang!

Astig mga Wharfe combination nyo, wala akong masabi break in na lang at i'm sure solb na solb na kayo dyan. Pag nagsawa na PM nyo ako ha. hahahaha Congrats Squatt and dyzophoria. Worried lang ako kasi andami ko ng nakikitang Wharfe na made in China. I dunno if it should be a concern but my old wharfes are made from England and I am very satisfied with it. I recently checked a Diamond 9.1 sa Ambassador G'hills about 3  weeks ago, they are giving it to me for 5.3k pero parang naliliitan ako and when i checked the back labels it says "Made in China", not that i have anything against that but i had to wait muna sa temp B&S baka me magbenta ng decent bookshelf. Konting tiis muna!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jeyps11_c on Feb 11, 2008 at 08:01 AM
Madami na talaga iems made from China. Pero it doesn't necessarily mean these are lemon items.
Not only in  the HT speaker industry but in a lot of other industries as well (even Nike is China made).
Kasi mura talaga labor sa kanila. Ang pilosopiya ko diyan is "I don't think a company like Wharfedale/Nike etc will sacrifice it's rep to save a couple of (hundred?) bucks per item." There will always be a high quality standard that they wil hold these sub-contractors to.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Feb 11, 2008 at 09:28 AM
at Huddaf, pag natuloy byahe ko overseas dispose ko yung wharfe pag nakahanap ako ng good deals doon.

di na ako sana pag di maganda ang sounds kaya kahit simpleng cable/TV broadcast lang pinapanood namin, gamit pa din yung mga wharfes
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Lancito on Feb 11, 2008 at 11:07 AM
Ok lang ba to pair the Diamond 9SR with my Monitor Audio BR fronts and center?  Not advisable ba?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Feb 11, 2008 at 01:09 PM
newbie here,

i was wondering if wharfdale diamond 9 series speakers would perform well on mid level receivers such as the onkyo 605/705 or denon 2308/2808? may nabasa kasi ako sa ibang threads na whrfdales speakers are for entry level receivers daw?

The higher you go for receivers, the better speakers will sound. Thats a fact. And with more budget for higher quality parts, mid level receivers arent very choosy with their speaker pairing, and perform better in music & HT.

Just think about it... the wharfedale's awarded 5 stars were not acquired through using a $300 entry level receiver, they used high level receivers and power amps during the review! Thats the reality!

Ok lang ba to pair the Diamond 9SR with my Monitor Audio BR fronts and center?  Not advisable ba?

If I am not mistaken, the Audyssey EQ of your 2808 will balance any tonal mismatch between speakers, so you can get any brand surround speakers you want. Its the benefit you get for the audessey!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Lancito on Feb 11, 2008 at 02:30 PM
The higher you go for receivers, the better speakers will sound. Thats a fact. And with more budget for higher quality parts, mid level receivers arent very choosy with their speaker pairing, and perform better in music & HT.

Just think about it... the wharfedale's awarded 5 stars were not acquired through using a $300 entry level receiver, they used high level receivers and power amps during the review! Thats the reality!

If I am not mistaken, the Audyssey EQ of your 2808 will balance any tonal mismatch between speakers, so you can get any brand surround speakers you want. Its the benefit you get for the audessey!

Thanks again MatZ.  This is again another reason not to change my rear speaker since there is a possibility Audyssey is performing a tonal balance between speakers kahit different brand.  Asteeeg!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: catgreg2k2 on Feb 15, 2008 at 04:10 PM
hi guys, plan to buy Wharf 9.6, sa tingin nyo kaya ba i-drive ito ng NAD C320BEE? Thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: @nk71 on Feb 15, 2008 at 04:29 PM
hi guys, plan to buy Wharf 9.6, sa tingin nyo kaya ba i-drive ito ng NAD C320BEE? Thanks.

palagay ko u should go for 9.5, mahirap I drive ang 9.6
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Ctlim on Feb 16, 2008 at 01:17 PM
mahihirapan yang amp mo sir.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Feb 16, 2008 at 02:05 PM
hi guys, plan to buy Wharf 9.6, sa tingin nyo kaya ba i-drive ito ng NAD C320BEE? Thanks.

The Diamond 9.6 has a sensitivity of 90db, one of the highest out there.  I don't see how it would be difficult to drive that with even a modest amp like the C320BEE.   And it is one of the few commercial mass hi-fi speakers that go down to 30hz.  NAD is also known to specify under strict FTC standards so its rated power is conservatively stated.  It can sound as powerful as many brands out there rated twice under JEITA standards or other non-FTC power measurements.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Feb 16, 2008 at 02:49 PM
Well said AV_Phile1!

When purchasing the 9.6's the guy  got it from said "oh 9.6 easy to drive" ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Philjonc on Feb 16, 2008 at 04:58 PM
I remember one of the issues of TAS released, featured their stunning review on NAD325BEE + NAD525BEE + Dali Ikon 6 floorstander. The 325bee made the Dali sing due to its 90db sensitivity.

pero sakin, gagamitan ko ng at least 150wpc na power amp yang 9.6. 8)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Feb 16, 2008 at 10:16 PM
I think the C325BEE is just a later model of the older C320BEE that has the same 50watt RMS rating at 0.02% THD into 8 ohms from 20hz to 20kz.  It can be just as powerful as some brands rated at 120watts RMS at 1% THD into 6 ohms at 1khz. 

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: catgreg2k2 on Feb 18, 2008 at 11:02 AM
The Diamond 9.6 has a sensitivity of 90db, one of the highest out there.  I don't see how it would be difficult to drive that with even a modest amp like the C320BEE.   And it is one of the few commercial mass hi-fi speakers that go down to 30hz.  NAD is also known to specify under strict FTC standards so its rated power is conservatively stated.  It can sound as powerful as many brands out there rated twice under JEITA standards or other non-FTC power measurements.

thank you sir sa advice.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: IceTea on Feb 19, 2008 at 10:31 AM
Hi,

Anyone used wharfedales for 7.1 setup?  Ano po ang mga model na ginamit ninyo?  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: threadlock on Feb 19, 2008 at 11:17 AM
But despite the 90dB sensitivity of the 9.6, most low-powered AVRs is struggling to drive it. I've heard the 9.6 driven by Denon 1708 in Theatre Works and the first impression is "Ang nipis ng sound particularly the midrange for a floorstander". I guess it will reveal its potential when used together with a power amp.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Feb 19, 2008 at 11:36 AM
The difference is in the power supply and the impedance dip of the speakers. As I have read in many magazines: Sensitivity is NOT= to sound quality.

Even with a 90db sensitivity, if the speakers dip to 4 ohms or below, more current is needed (where do you think they get the juice to power all those woofers & tweeters?). A receiver will not be up to the task of powering it, as they werent really built to handle 4 ohm loads well (except for pricey THX ultra models, they are big & heavy too). See HT buyer's guide mags, 90% of receivers do not have a 4 ohm rating.

Why? because of the limited power supply and heat dissipation.

But why can 2 channel integrateds handle them well when a "higher" power receiver cannot? Its in the power supply. Notice that torroidal power supplies are available even with 15k below integrateds but it will cost you 100+k flagship models for a 7.1 receiver with torroidal power supply. And they usually need 2 people to carry.

Also imagine the heat dissipation needed when a receiver heats up to power 4 ohm loads. I have been using receiver-power amp combinations for some time now and ALL 4 receivers I used as pure pre/pro heat up like mad just doing its processing job alone (no amplifier used yet). Imagine the heat a receiver will generate doing its pre/pro job PLUS powering 7 speakers, specially if they are 4 ohms or dip to 4ohms (w/c most speakers do btw)!

Thats why PRE OUTS were invented!  :D

Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: allan1836 on Feb 21, 2008 at 05:02 AM
You can't rely on paper specs of companies alone. Most are not accurate or have different methods of measurement. I have 2 friends with 9.6 and they also mentioned to me that they are a bit power hungry and really needs a good quality amplifier to sing. Though, another friend audition the 9.6 with a Melody tube intg. amp at ang ganda daw ng combo. Just don't know ilan watts yung tube amp.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Feb 21, 2008 at 10:17 AM
specs are for guidance/reference but in the real world, amp/speaker matching may be different from what is expected if based on specs. ive seen/heard the legendary nad3020 20wpc amp drive AR9? 4ohm floorstanders (forgot the exact model), and read that it was happy driving electrostatics. it can also drive the legendary low sensitivity rogers ls3/5a, which many higher spec powered amp had a hard time driving.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Feb 21, 2008 at 11:00 AM
You can't rely on paper specs of companies alone. Most are not accurate or have different methods of measurement.

I agree : Audition is still the key. Buying based on specs alone is like choosing from a mail order bride catalog.  :D Audition your wife... este gear pala!

Impedance is one spec that is inaccurate at best. You can see 8ohm on paper but lab tests show them to dip to 4ohms or below. An 8ohm 91db sensitivity B&W speaker I was researching recently showed impedance dips to 2.56 ohms!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Feb 21, 2008 at 11:16 AM
specs are for guidance/reference but in the real world, amp/speaker matching may be different from what is expected if based on specs. ive seen/heard the legendary nad3020 20wpc amp drive AR9? 4ohm floorstanders (forgot the exact model), and read that it was happy driving electrostatics. it can also drive the legendary low sensitivity rogers ls3/5a, which many higher spec powered amp had a hard time driving.


that is because the specs you see from those user manuals are incomplete.  They are just summaries and most made to look good.  The more complete specs come from lab tests which show you at least the freq response plot across all frequencies, vs db and vs loads.  Specs done right have a direct correlation to the gear's performance.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Feb 21, 2008 at 11:49 AM
that is because the specs you see from those user manuals are incomplete.  They are just summaries and most made to look good.  The more complete specs come from lab tests which show you at least the freq response plot across all frequencies, vs db and vs loads.  Specs done right have a direct correlation to the gear's performance.

unfortunately, most of us dont have the expertise nor the instruments. in my case im just not too keen on reading all techie details- graphs lab reports etc about my gears. user manual/specs are the nearest the manufacturers get to "layman's terms".
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Feb 21, 2008 at 11:52 AM
I agree : Audition is still the key. Buying based on specs alone is like choosing from a mail order bride catalog.  :D Audition your wife... este gear pala!

Unless the audition is done where the gear will end up in, I am starting to question its intrinsic and relevant value as far as sound quality is concerned.  I have realized what you hear in AV showrooms will never be the same as what you hear at home.  (Similarly, it's always advisable to "audition" your would-be wife at home, meeting with your family and friends,  and getting to know her better during family dinners and get-togethers, right?  You don't marry her after meeting her once or twice in the office, do you?.  ;D)

Quote
Impedance is one spec that is inaccurate at best. You can see 8ohm on paper but lab tests show them to dip to 4ohms or below. An 8ohm 91db sensitivity B&W speaker I was researching recently showed impedance dips to 2.56 ohms!

That's why speaker literatures say it's "Nominal Impedance."  You really can't gauge a speaker's performance without looking at its Frequency Response plot.

And you're right, sensitivity has NO relation whatsoever with sound quality.  It's just an indication of efficiency in terms of sound pressure/input volts/meter.  Some of the 98db sensitive speakers I've encountered sounded awful.  Some measure it just a 400hz, 1khz, some with a pink noise.  But the latter is also misleading because the SPL readings at low frequencies can register high, bloating the figure.

Almost all speakers dip to 4 ohms and below and as high as 40ohms at certain frequencies. Some more than others. And many high end speakers can go down to 1ohm.  It's really a good thing to research and check if there are lab tests to have a better assessment of  the behaviour of speakers out there.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Feb 21, 2008 at 12:03 PM
unfortunately, most of us dont have the expertise nor the instruments. in my case im just not too keen on reading all techie details- graphs lab reports etc about my gears. user manual/specs are the nearest the manufacturers get to "layman's terms".

True, there's really not much point basing one's purchase decision on something one can't very well relate to.  We all have to do with what makes us justified in our decisions, be that based on technicals or preferences/biases or both.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 22, 2008 at 09:26 AM
But despite the 90dB sensitivity of the 9.6, most low-powered AVRs is struggling to drive it. I've heard the 9.6 driven by Denon 1708 in Theatre Works and the first impression is "Ang nipis ng sound particularly the midrange for a floorstander". I guess it will reveal its potential when used together with a power amp.

What's the receiver's config?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: golti on Feb 26, 2008 at 09:14 AM
will the diamond 9 go well with a mid-range yamaha or mid-range onkyo avr?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Feb 26, 2008 at 11:49 AM
Absolutely! even better than entry level AVR's. Go for the 700 series Onkyo or 1000 series Yamahas. They wont dissapoint.

Better to overpower (busog) than underpower (bitin).  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: golti on Feb 26, 2008 at 03:28 PM
Absolutely! even better than entry level AVR's. Go for the 700 series Onkyo or 1000 series Yamahas. They wont dissapoint.

Better to overpower (busog) than underpower (bitin).  ;D

I was thinking more of yamaha's 600 series, especially the commin up 663 or the 863 if I can save up the cash when they come out locally. I think that new x63 line up are a better match for onkyo's 700 sereis. Then just pick bet onkyo and yamaha.... den a power amp if my ears would look for it... hehe thanks for the inputs
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Jairus on Feb 26, 2008 at 04:54 PM
I was thinking more of yamaha's 600 series, especially the commin up 663 or the 863 if I can save up the cash when they come out locally. I think that new x63 line up are a better match for onkyo's 700 sereis. Then just pick bet onkyo and yamaha.... den a power amp if my ears would look for it... hehe thanks for the inputs

Try also the mid-level Harman.  It also matches well with Wharfedale.  IMO, Harman Kardon matches well with most popular speaker brands (handy, in case you change your mind on the Wharfs). Just my 2 cents. ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Moogster on Feb 26, 2008 at 07:03 PM
How much are each set of this Diamonds sirs?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Mr.H on Feb 26, 2008 at 08:25 PM
How much are each set of this Diamonds sirs?

try mo bro pm si boss Vic of "Sights and Sounds" bka meron sila nyan...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Feb 26, 2008 at 08:30 PM
Yup, pretty complete  lineup at Sights and Sounds Shang.  Try them at Thaterowrks Trinoma, saw some there too.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: MAtZTER on Feb 27, 2008 at 10:46 AM
Try also the mid-level Harman.  It also matches well with Wharfedale.  IMO, Harman Kardon matches well with most popular speaker brands (handy, in case you change your mind on the Wharfs). Just my 2 cents. ;)

Try to contact Danrd, he is selling his mid level Harman 335 for just 22k, if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sanabagan on Feb 29, 2008 at 09:12 PM
guys, 'am looking for wharf diamond 9 CS, black. please PM or text at 0917-8036443 if you're selling yours. TIA
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mjct6210 on Mar 16, 2008 at 06:25 PM
guys, how long ba ang "burn-in" period ng speakers at receiver?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ericag_ph on Mar 17, 2008 at 08:34 AM
Speakers...typically 100hours.  But I noticed the difference in just 10 hours...after that...minimal...

guys, how long ba ang "burn-in" period ng speakers at receiver?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: demmet on Mar 17, 2008 at 08:54 AM
Inputs naman.. how much wharsf 9.6...planning to import. ;D ;D ;D

contact details na din ng stores.. tia.


overkill dito... $450 each >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JoeyGS on Mar 17, 2008 at 11:47 AM
Good am

Does anyone have the internal wiring diagram of the Wharfedale diamond 9.5 floorstander?  Kindly email it to [email protected].

Thanks and regards,

JoeyGS
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: allan1836 on Mar 18, 2008 at 08:35 AM
Good am

Does anyone have the internal wiring diagram of the Wharfedale diamond 9.5 floorstander?  Kindly email it to [email protected].

Thanks and regards,

JoeyGS

gearhead, might help you on the 9.5's.  ;)

Inputs naman.. how much wharsf 9.6...planning to import. ;D ;D ;D

contact details na din ng stores.. tia.


overkill dito... $450 each >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

I think around 17-18K ang 1 pr. of 9.6 locally. Try Sight&Sound in Edsa Shang. Look for Jun.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JoeyGS on Mar 18, 2008 at 10:00 AM
gearhead, might help you on the 9.5's.  ;)



Thanks Allan
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Mar 19, 2008 at 09:27 AM
anyone selling their 9.1? I need a pair for my bedroom audio set-up.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Mar 19, 2008 at 09:43 AM
hirap ng walang marketplace, ano? dami ko nakikita looking for this and that. yun namang me ibebenta, hiya naman mag-post kasi OT.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JAQY888 on Mar 19, 2008 at 09:55 AM
hirap ng walang marketplace, ano? dami ko nakikita looking for this and that. yun namang me ibebenta, hiya naman mag-post kasi OT.

Yun nga e. more than 3 months na ala pa ring balita when the B&S section will open.

Well, may mga ilan-ilan d na makapag-antay, nag post na ng for sale items d2. heheheh.

Hopefully, mabuksan na uli Marketplace --------- hayyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!  :o
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: allan1836 on Mar 19, 2008 at 01:29 PM
Go to pinoybazaar.com. Mostly pdvd member nag buy&sell don at very active din (I already sold 2 items there w/in 1mo.)  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: southice on Mar 22, 2008 at 11:44 PM
kaya bang idrive ng denon 1907 yung diamond 9.6?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Mar 23, 2008 at 01:47 AM
Kayang kaya ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Mar 23, 2008 at 06:08 PM
baka ayaw nyo na sa 9.1 nyo benta nyo sakin  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on Mar 23, 2008 at 06:23 PM
baka ayaw nyo na sa 9.1 nyo benta nyo sakin  ;D

Palagay ko kilangan ng WishList thread....  ;D  ;D  ;D   
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Mar 23, 2008 at 06:32 PM
nagpost na din ako sa pinoybazaar hindi rin pinapansin doon
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on Mar 23, 2008 at 06:37 PM
nagpost na din ako sa pinoybazaar hindi rin pinapansin doon


sir, baka talagang mahal nila mga 9.1 nila.... ayaw pakawalan... ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Mar 24, 2008 at 02:38 PM
Kuha na brand new ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Mar 24, 2008 at 02:41 PM
Anybody planning to sell their Wharfedale 9.dfs (black)?  A potential buyer here..  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Weng! on Mar 24, 2008 at 02:50 PM
Anybody planning to sell their Wharfedale 9.dfs (black)?  A potential buyer here..  ;D ;D ;D

same here, pa pila nalang din sir ;D

sayang yung 3k sa pinoybazaar, di ko naabutan >:(

si lancito kakakuha lang.....pero brand new ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Lancito on Mar 24, 2008 at 03:33 PM
same here, pa pila nalang din sir ;D

sayang yung 3k sa pinoybazaar, di ko naabutan >:(

si lancito kakakuha lang.....pero brand new ;D


Malas lang ako sa pila pagdating sa buy and sell.  Palagi nabili na or reserved.  Napilitan nalang ako bumili ng brand new since wala ako kaagaw. hehehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Mar 24, 2008 at 10:22 PM
benta nyo na 9.1 nyo sa akin any color
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on Mar 24, 2008 at 10:26 PM
benta nyo na 9.1 nyo sa akin any color

pagganito ang demand ng 9.1 tyak magmamahal (economics).... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JAQY888 on Mar 25, 2008 at 05:01 AM
benta nyo na 9.1 nyo sa akin any color

Bro, check out A/V Bazaar thread sa pinoybazaar, may nagbebenta ng kanyang 9.1, black ash.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Mar 25, 2008 at 08:01 AM
parang brand new yung asking price nya 4.5k hehehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Mar 25, 2008 at 09:01 AM
parang brand new yung asking price nya 4.5k hehehe.


Huh?! ganun na ba kamura ang brand new?


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Mar 25, 2008 at 02:04 PM
sir jojoD nakuha ko po ung 9.1 ng 5k brand new last December.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: knefut on Mar 25, 2008 at 02:26 PM
^

where po sir?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on Mar 25, 2008 at 02:28 PM
sir jojoD nakuha ko po ung 9.1 ng 5k brand new last December.

Maybe 4.5 still negotiable.... with best offer... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JAQY888 on Mar 25, 2008 at 04:05 PM

Huh?! ganun na ba kamura ang brand new?


Yes sir. 9.1s still at 5K ngayon ..... b/new  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Mar 25, 2008 at 10:19 PM
binigyan ako ng diskawnt ni butchHT ng The HomeTheater kaya mura ko nakuha ung Wharfedale set ko.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bry77 on Mar 29, 2008 at 12:00 PM
Good day mga sir, newbie lng po. Planning to buy a wharfedale 9.5. Tanong ko lng kung oky bumili sa Ambassador Appliances kasi ngooffer sila ng 0% for 6mos.thanks.-bryan 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: skylynx888 on Mar 29, 2008 at 12:02 PM
Good day mga sir, newbie lng po. Planning to buy a wharfedale 9.5. Tanong ko lng kung oky bumili sa Ambassador Appliances kasi ngooffer sila ng 0% for 6mos.thanks.-bryan 
whats their price bro?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mjct6210 on Mar 29, 2008 at 02:30 PM
pa quote ka kay sir jeff ng theatreworks ok makadeal si sir jeff.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Mar 29, 2008 at 02:50 PM
pm mo si butchHT ng TheHomeTheater. maganda discounts nila
Title: Diamond 9 DFS badge rotate
Post by: bejiboys on Mar 30, 2008 at 03:18 PM
DFS owners, have any of you mounted your DFS on a stand/shelf?  Were you able to rotate the badge?  Manual says the badge could be rotated (same as tne PS badge on a PS3), but I have a problem rotating them - feels like the plastic badge is about to break?  It just looks stupid having a badge reversed. ;)
Title: Re: Diamond 9 DFS badge rotate
Post by: Lancito on Mar 30, 2008 at 09:14 PM
DFS owners, have any of you mounted your DFS on a stand/shelf?  Were you able to rotate the badge?  Manual says the badge could be rotated (same as tne PS badge on a PS3), but I have a problem rotating them - feels like the plastic badge is about to break?  It just looks stupid having a badge reversed. ;)

Didnt put my DFS on stand but I did try rotating the badge.  Wont break dont worry.  It is really designed to be rotated.
Title: Re: Diamond 9 DFS badge rotate
Post by: JAQY888 on Mar 30, 2008 at 09:20 PM
DFS owners, have any of you mounted your DFS on a stand/shelf?  Were you able to rotate the badge?  Manual says the badge could be rotated (same as tne PS badge on a PS3), but I have a problem rotating them - feels like the plastic badge is about to break?  It just looks stupid having a badge reversed. ;)

I rotated the Wharfe logo on my 9DFS with no fuzz, bro.
It's designed to be rotated talaga. Dahan-dahanin mo lang pag-rotate nyan.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bejiboys on Mar 31, 2008 at 05:41 AM
Got it. TYVM.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JAQY888 on Mar 31, 2008 at 06:17 AM
Got it. TYVM.

So pano, bro --- problem solved? hehehe.  ;D

Gud day
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: tenderobject on Mar 31, 2008 at 12:56 PM
Got my new toys  ;)

Break in time, thanks for squatt3r for referring me to Sir Butch  :)

9.6s for the fronts
(http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/1507/ht1ayy0.jpg)

9.1s for the rear :D
(http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7631/ht2atx2.jpg)


ser mga magkano ang wharf floorstander na 9.6? sino ba distro dito sa pinas? naghahanap ako medyo mura mura eh hehe na black ash :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JcCapco on Mar 31, 2008 at 07:51 PM
mga sir,

can you help me were i can get a best deal or mababa lang magbigay ng brand new wharfedale 9.5 series??
i have already inquire sa shangrila and parksquare 12,900K ang bigay. is  the price is right for 12,900 or my mas mababa p po ba dun?? maraming salamat po.....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Apr 01, 2008 at 08:13 AM
Good Morning JcCapco!

Have you inquired at Theaterworks Trinoma?  Here is their phone number, look for Jen, better if you talk to Jeff.  He'll give you a good deal.  Here's their number 9013975.  Happy Hunting! ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Apr 03, 2008 at 11:15 PM
found a pair of 2nd hand 9.1s from pinoy bazaar  ;D

low cost bedroom audio set-up. Yamaha A520 Stereo Amp; MP3s from PSP; Flat cord as speaker wires

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/empoy/Image064Small.jpg)

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/empoy/Image067Small.jpg)

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Apr 07, 2008 at 03:50 PM
the proof of the pudding is in the eating. kumusta tunog, bro squatt3r?  8)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Apr 07, 2008 at 04:00 PM
ayus naman tunog sir gearhead. medyo makapal yung strands nung flat cord kasi hindi sya locally sourced.
portable sound system na sya dito sa bedroom. my wife even plays the psp with the amp turned on.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Jairus on Apr 07, 2008 at 11:12 PM
ayus naman tunog sir gearhead. medyo makapal yung strands nung flat cord kasi hindi sya locally sourced.
portable sound system na sya dito sa bedroom. my wife even plays the psp with the amp turned on.

Nice! That will even sound better with an appropriate stand  ;)  Meron din yata for sale sa pinoybazaar  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: IceTea on Apr 15, 2008 at 10:23 AM
Mga pdvd pipol,

Ano po ang mas advisable sa HT?  9.1 o 9.2.  TIA.  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: defjam on Apr 15, 2008 at 06:16 PM
sir saan po ba makakabili ng 9.1 na mura?may nakita kasi ako 5k dw brand new nito?sann po?kahit pm nyo nalang ako.Thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Apr 16, 2008 at 06:03 PM
Mga pdvd pipol,

Ano po ang mas advisable sa HT?  9.1 o 9.2.  TIA.  ;)

Hey IceTea,

Quite happy with my 9.1's.  I haven't even fully broken them in yet.  I use them for the rears though.

Good luck on your decision ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Nemesis91 on Apr 18, 2008 at 01:21 PM
On sale all wharfedale speakers @ theater works. ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: praktikal on Apr 18, 2008 at 07:41 PM
pls pm naman price list. til when ang sale? tnx
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bulak_henyo on Apr 18, 2008 at 07:56 PM
On sale all warfedale speakers @ theater works. ;)

sana meron pa nxt week.. pa pm na rin ng price sir. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Apr 18, 2008 at 11:34 PM
On sale all warfedale speakers @ theater works. ;)

Kindly PM me the sale price of Wharfedale 9.dfs...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: stickfighter on Apr 19, 2008 at 12:08 AM
On sale all warfedale speakers @ theater works. ;)

Sir Jeff! Kindly PM me price for a pair of  ;DWharfedale 9.1 and 9.2 (Black Ash). Thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Ozzy on Apr 19, 2008 at 09:03 AM
On sale all warfedale speakers @ theater works. ;)

sir pa pm nmn ng prices..
and pls advice until when ung sale?
TIA
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JcCapco on Apr 22, 2008 at 12:32 AM
sir pa pm din po ng price ng 9.2 at kung may black ash n color. im planning to buy this early May..salamat po.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chariol on Apr 22, 2008 at 05:39 PM
meron bang wall mount for 9.1 without drilling the speaker? TIA. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JcCapco on Apr 22, 2008 at 10:13 PM
anyone selling a preowned diamond 9.2 black ash? pls pm me 09064496408. tnx...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jaklord on Apr 22, 2008 at 10:20 PM
anyone selling a preowned diamond 9.2 black ash? pls pm me 09064496408. tnx...

Sir, try to check the marketplace, someone is selling his 9.2.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Marl☆1 on Apr 25, 2008 at 01:12 PM
Hey IceTea,

Quite happy with my 9.1's.  I haven't even fully broken them in yet.  I use them for the rears though.

Good luck on your decision ;D

Hi bros, just to share my experience with 9.1.  Got the opportunity to audition this recently and it absolutely floored me at its price range!  Coupled with the right pre-amp / amp combo it showcased amazing depth and clarity.  Solid talaga!  Did a comparo vs. the Epos m15 and despite the the cost being 10x cheaper, it came real close to the delivery of the Epos. Superb build quality (curving wood, binding posts, kevlar base driver etc).


I was obliged to take it home just on pure performance.  Only now was I able to surf to check its reviews and I was glad to see that it generally my first impressions on the speaks.  What an awesome speaker at that price range.  Plain genius.  Here's the link: http://stereophile.com/standloudspeakers/1105wharfedale/ (http://stereophile.com/standloudspeakers/1105wharfedale/)

I have to confess, I was initially reluctant to buy Wharfes due to the 'budget' reputation; and the general stigma that it's secondary to more upscale European brands.  Well, this 9.1 totally stopped me dead at my tracks and re-affirmed my passion for Wharfes.  Highly recommended at this price point.

Cheers!
Marl1

BTW, paired the 9.1s with MF cdp and amp while using a Dared pre-amp.  Perfect match IMHO!  ;)

(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/images/range_models/range_3/model_11/finish_10/preview_1.jpg)

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Apr 25, 2008 at 02:42 PM
welcome to the pack  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Apr 25, 2008 at 02:58 PM
Great review Marl_1!

Nice of you to highlight features. And with the equipment you paired it too.  They will really sing! Baka tampo digms nyan ;D Specially when they hear another "lady" is satisfying you ;D

Cheers!

Black Ash (9.1) Blackie ;D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: flak-jacket on Apr 25, 2008 at 04:42 PM
wharfedale gurus, anong color ng 9.1 ang available locally? and what speaker stands ang babagay?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Apr 25, 2008 at 05:06 PM
bagay sa wharfe 9.1 yung 2 posts speaker stands na bakal.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JcCapco on Apr 25, 2008 at 07:15 PM
mga sir ano po b talaga ang mas maganda ang sound quality 9.1 or 9.2? i will use it as front speaker for a 50/50 set up. room is 12sq meter, dtx15" sub,9 CS center,pioneer vsx-517 avr w/c is 110w x 5channel as rated daw...surround ala pa.  sensya na naguguluhan kasi ako di ko alam kung ano pipiliin ko.. salamat..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Marl☆1 on Apr 25, 2008 at 11:44 PM
Great review Marl_1!

Nice of you to highlight features. And with the equipment you paired it too.  They will really sing! Baka tampo digms nyan ;D Specially when they hear another "lady" is satisfying you ;D

Cheers!

Black Ash (9.1) Blackie ;D



Hi buddy, thanks! Hehe, di naman yan magseselos bro - am using the Digms strictly for HT (actually got two HT set-ups na all-Paradigm na one 7-ch and one HTIB Cinema - loyalist talaga  ;))

Really got the Wharfes specifically for 2-ch audio - galing talaga ng Wharfe/Dared/MF hybrid match up bro.  Actually, for audio baka mas magselos pa yung ibang set-ups natin (SS: Epos+Cambridge combo, Tube: AE+Cayin combo).  Good to have a couple of 'ladies' in the house.  Many thanks again! ;)

welcome to the pack  ;D

Thanks sir, really enjoying the Wharfes.  Really holding its own vs. the other audio set-ups in the house.
Cheers!  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: E-reply on Apr 26, 2008 at 11:15 AM
wharfedale gurus, anong color ng 9.1 ang available locally? and what speaker stands ang babagay?

We have black and rosewood color for 9.1 speakers. We have black color 3 posts speaker stand amounting to P2500. which will give 9.1 impressive look.

bagay sa wharfe 9.1 yung 2 posts speaker stands na bakal.

We have black color 3 posts speaker stand amounting to P2500. which will give 9.1 impressive look.

mga sir ano po b talaga ang mas maganda ang sound quality 9.1 or 9.2? i will use it as front speaker for a 50/50 set up. room is 12sq meter, dtx15" sub,9 CS center,pioneer vsx-517 avr w/c is 110w x 5channel as rated daw...surround ala pa.  sensya na naguguluhan kasi ako di ko alam kung ano pipiliin ko.. salamat..

I find 9.2 bass sound to be boomy. This must be due to bigger size of bass speaker that requires bigger amplifier to drive, so as to create better sound. Between 9.1 and 9.2, I prefer 9.1 for better tonal balance of treble, mid, and bass. The result is a musical speaker where vocals are clear and clean, detail treble, and a very tight bass. After all, you have a small 12 sq meter room, and an existing receiver which I don't think you want to upgrade now just to accommodate a bigger speaker like Diamond 9.2.

You may wish to check out Diamond 9.1 Speaker at Sights and Sounds 4th level Shangri-La Plaza.  We sell Wharfedale at reasonable price, plus you get a FREE Sound and Vision home-theater tune-up disc when you buy the speaker system.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Apr 26, 2008 at 01:20 PM
do you have pictures of the 3 post speaker stands?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: flak-jacket on Apr 26, 2008 at 03:04 PM
same question as squatt3r  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: E-reply on Apr 26, 2008 at 04:45 PM
same question as squatt3r  ;D

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/ereply/Image001.jpg)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Apr 26, 2008 at 04:58 PM
kung square sana yung base nyan  ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Marl☆1 on Apr 27, 2008 at 11:07 AM
kung square sana yung base nyan  ::)

Sent you PM bud.  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: javaxsound on Apr 28, 2008 at 03:35 PM
Is it okay to use diamond 9 center together with diamond 8.4?

off topic:  I tried bi-wiring diamond 8.4, I connected the speaker cable in this manner: each two (2) speaker red terminal connects to red terminal of yamaha-amp speaker output A and B separately using banana-plug.  Same with black terminal, of course, left and right. Would that be okay?

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: E-reply on Apr 28, 2008 at 04:13 PM
kung square sana yung base nyan  ::)

Only triangle base available. There's a reason for the stand to have only 3 footings or 3 spikes. The square base of 4 spikes or footings shall create more resonance than a stand with 3 spikes. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gunblade977 on Apr 29, 2008 at 02:01 PM
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/ereply/Image001.jpg)

anung height neto sir? or rather what are the available heights of the stand?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: E-reply on Apr 29, 2008 at 03:07 PM
anung height neto sir? or rather what are the available heights of the stand?

This stand has only one size: of height 24".
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: tambutsoo on May 01, 2008 at 05:47 PM
kindly post the price of all wharfedale diamond 9 series.


thank you very much :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: catgreg2k2 on May 01, 2008 at 08:40 PM
please pm best price for 9.2 thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: E-reply on May 02, 2008 at 02:28 PM
kindly post the price of all wharfedale diamond 9 series.


thank you very much :)

9.6 at P17500.
9.5 P12500.
9.4 P9500.
9.2 P7200.
9.1 P5500.
9CM P6300.
9CS P4500.
9DFS P4500.
SW150 P9K.

Available at Sights and Sounds 4th level Shangri-La Plaza. For further inquiry, call 634-1789 to 90. Or mobile 0917-5413491.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ramgos on May 07, 2008 at 09:39 PM
Hello Everyone,

I am a newbie here. I hope you guys out there can help me decide. I am looking at the Diamond 9.4 and 9.5. and I am going to pair it with my Marantz SR3001. I will be using it 50/50 movie/music. My room area is 20 sq. mt. What should i get?

Also, Is it true that a Diamond 9.4, which is a 2 way speaker will be more music and a 9.5, a 3 way will be better for Home Theater?

Hoping for your guidance.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on May 08, 2008 at 05:33 PM
I have a room size about the same as yours.  Have 9.6's for the front and 9.1's for the rears.  Not sure of the feedback on the 9.4's but auditioned the 9.5's a few years back.  Found them to be musical too. 9.2's are a little "boomy" for my ears.  Have an uncle who has a Wharfe-Marantz combo and he has had it for years.  He has been using it for years and has been very happy with it.

Hope this helps :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on May 08, 2008 at 06:42 PM
Hello Everyone,

I am a newbie here. I hope you guys out there can help me decide. I am looking at the Diamond 9.4 and 9.5. and I am going to pair it with my Marantz SR3001. I will be using it 50/50 movie/music. My room area is 20 sq. mt. What should i get?

Also, Is it true that a Diamond 9.4, which is a 2 way speaker will be more music and a 9.5, a 3 way will be better for Home Theater?

Hoping for your guidance.


I use to owned 9.5, it's quite light in Lower region but if paired with decent sub for HT/ Music it will be more musical. 9.6 is too big, anyway, you will set it small in your set-up. get also the DFS and 9.1 for surround and Back SR.   ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Ctlim on May 08, 2008 at 11:57 PM
^^^ Agree. You have your set na. I would just stay away from the subwoofer. Good ones dont come cheap.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ramgos on May 09, 2008 at 08:00 AM
Thank you sirs blackie, audiojunkie, ctlim for the reply.

I guess I will settle for a 9.5 first. Unless someone here tells to think otherwise.  ;)

I am also thinking to pair it with either a WH2 or WH3 na lang kaya? or should I still go for the 9cs?

Thanks for the advise kind sirs.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Ctlim on May 09, 2008 at 10:04 AM
advisable that you pair the 9.5 with the diamond 9cs. for the surrounds, you can go for the wh2 if you want to save 2-2.5k (but for that amount ill just buy the 9DFS)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: E-reply on May 10, 2008 at 01:47 PM
Thank you sirs blackie, audiojunkie, ctlim for the reply.

I guess I will settle for a 9.5 first. Unless someone here tells to think otherwise.  ;)

I am also thinking to pair it with either a WH2 or WH3 na lang kaya? or should I still go for the 9cs?

Thanks for the advise kind sirs.

advisable that you pair the 9.5 with the diamond 9cs. for the surrounds, you can go for the wh2 if you want to save 2-2.5k (but for that amount ill just buy the 9DFS)

I agree with ctlim for the right matching speakers. 9.5, 9CS, and 9dfs belong to one series speakers that share same tonal quality and harmonic characteristics. Voice-matching is key to effective home theater sound. If your speakers do not produce a similar tonal quality and share the same harmonic characteristics, the sound will be disjointed when it travels from speaker to speaker. With voice-matched speakers, the sound moves effortlessly around you, creating a seamless surround effect.

For more info, you are invited to audition Wharfedale at Sights and Sounds 4th level Shangri-La Plaza.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on May 10, 2008 at 02:00 PM
Yes! I agree..  9cs best match for 9.5, 9cm is configured for 9.6 model.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ramsey on May 10, 2008 at 08:11 PM
Kaya po ba i drive ng HK340 ung 9.1. Naka declare sa kanya 6ohms. Naka set na po kasi ako sana na kukuha paradigm mini monitors pero nung mabasa ko dito ok ang 9.1. Inaudition ko napagalaman ko anlaki difference sa price pero sa clarity halos pareho lang. Mukhang mas type ko na ata 9.1. Sa 1 pr. ng paradigm, makakabili na ko ng fr,fl,c,sr,sl ng Wharfedale.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: skylynx888 on May 10, 2008 at 08:18 PM
Kaya po ba i drive ng HK340 ung 9.1. Naka declare sa kanya 6ohms. Naka set na po kasi ako sana na kukuha paradigm mini monitors pero nung mabasa ko dito ok ang 9.1. Inaudition ko napagalaman ko anlaki difference sa price pero sa clarity halos pareho lang. Mukhang mas type ko na ata 9.1. Sa 1 pr. ng paradigm, makakabili na ko ng fr,fl,c,sr,sl ng Wharfedale.

kayang kaya bro, i use to have hk335 driving my 9.6 with ease  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ramsey on May 10, 2008 at 08:42 PM
Ok. tnx for the input. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JcCapco on May 12, 2008 at 04:09 PM
just got my diamond 9.1 at spectra! tnx to nino!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on May 12, 2008 at 04:43 PM
Congratulations on the new Acquisition.  Enjoy ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: adjell33 on May 12, 2008 at 08:04 PM
.....i suggest you close your eyes the first time you put this wharfedale diamond 9.1 into action... and be amazed, congrats!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dyerds on May 12, 2008 at 08:56 PM
Hello Everyone,

I am a newbie here. I hope you guys out there can help me decide. I am looking at the Diamond 9.4 and 9.5. and I am going to pair it with my Marantz SR3001. I will be using it 50/50 movie/music. My room area is 20 sq. mt. What should i get?

Also, Is it true that a Diamond 9.4, which is a 2 way speaker will be more music and a 9.5, a 3 way will be better for Home Theater?

Hoping for your guidance.


I am using 9.4 and I'm very much happy with this baby. Good for ht and music.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on May 13, 2008 at 08:21 AM
just got my diamond 9.1 at spectra! tnx to nino!

Do you mind if I ask what will be driving these babies? ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on May 13, 2008 at 12:35 PM
congrats sir. another wharfe owner  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JcCapco on May 13, 2008 at 12:57 PM
Driving it with HK AVR146. its not yet available here. My aunt bought it in the US. I think its just an HK entry level  5channel 40wpc  and its around my budget. its just cost me $250 free shipping pa. I'm now a proud owner of diamond 9.1. bang for the bucks nga talaga. the performance is away to far compare to my bose am7. now, I put my bose am7 as my surround, 9.1 for front, dtx 15" sub and center bose cube din since wla pang budget sa 9cs eh.I have a limited space 12sqm at bedroom setup lang.tnx...

One question lang can i connect my bose cubes directly to my receiver as surrounds and center at hindi na dadaan ng bass module?hindi b masisira ung cubes? tnx 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JcCapco on May 13, 2008 at 01:01 PM
Driving it with HK AVR146. its not yet available here. My aunt bought it in the US. I think its just an HK entry level  5channel 40wpc  and its around my budget. its just cost me $250 free shipping pa. I'm now a proud owner of diamond 9.1. bang for the bucks nga talaga. the performance is away to far compare to my bose am7. now, I put my bose am7 as my surround, 9.1 for front, dtx 15" sub and center bose cube din since wla pang budget sa 9cs eh.I have a limited space 12sqm at bedroom setup lang.tnx...

One question lang can i connect my bose cubes directly to my receiver as surrounds and center at hindi na dadaan ng bass module?hindi b masisira ung cubes? tnx
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on May 13, 2008 at 01:03 PM

One question lang can i connect my bose cubes directly to my receiver as surrounds and center at hindi na dadaan ng bass module?hindi b masisira ung cubes? tnx 

I'm afraid it will not sound as intended by Bose. Bass module has the crossover network for the small 1ohm cone.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ramsey on May 13, 2008 at 05:38 PM
I read some reviews at audio review. com about diamond 9.1. I noticed that 9.1s are priced between $200 -$350. Pero dito sa tin p5500. Sa tingin po ninyo bakit mas mura sa tin 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on May 13, 2008 at 06:22 PM
I read some reviews at audio review. com about diamond 9.1. I noticed that 9.1s are priced between $200 -$350. Pero dito sa tin p5500. Sa tingin po ninyo bakit mas mura sa tin 

Yes! mas mura sa atin.. saw it advertised in hifi mags at $350.00 pair.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on May 13, 2008 at 06:26 PM
I don't know why the distributors price it that way. But this practive is not uncommon. IIRC, in Singapore, Mordaunt Shorts' that are priced lower.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on May 13, 2008 at 06:52 PM
just got my diamond 9.1 at spectra! tnx to nino!

congrats sir! :D welcome to the club! time to break in na yan... mas lalabas ang tunog nyan pag lumambot na yun driver...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on May 13, 2008 at 07:02 PM
Driving it with HK AVR146. its not yet available here. My aunt bought it in the US. I think its just an HK entry level  5channel 40wpc  and its around my budget. its just cost me $250 free shipping pa. I'm now a proud owner of diamond 9.1. bang for the bucks nga talaga. the performance is away to far compare to my bose am7. now, I put my bose am7 as my surround, 9.1 for front, dtx 15" sub and center bose cube din since wla pang budget sa 9cs eh.I have a limited space 12sqm at bedroom setup lang.tnx...

One question lang can i connect my bose cubes directly to my receiver as surrounds and center at hindi na dadaan ng bass module?hindi b masisira ung cubes? tnx

They should be singing then ;D  Congrats again ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dyerds on May 13, 2008 at 11:35 PM
Driving it with HK AVR146. its not yet available here. My aunt bought it in the US. I think its just an HK entry level  5channel 40wpc  and its around my budget. its just cost me $250 free shipping pa. I'm now a proud owner of diamond 9.1. bang for the bucks nga talaga. the performance is away to far compare to my bose am7. now, I put my bose am7 as my surround, 9.1 for front, dtx 15" sub and center bose cube din since wla pang budget sa 9cs eh.I have a limited space 12sqm at bedroom setup lang.tnx...

One question lang can i connect my bose cubes directly to my receiver as surrounds and center at hindi na dadaan ng bass module?hindi b masisira ung cubes? tnx

Welcome to the family of proud owners of Wharfedale! ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on May 13, 2008 at 11:50 PM
Uy may 9.1 and 9.5 din ako... sulit na sulit yan 9.1s mo bro...  ;)


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ramgos on May 14, 2008 at 04:11 PM
Hi,

I got myself a pair Diamond 9.5 and 9CS. and thinking of getting a WH-2 for rear with Marantz SR3001 70 WPC. Ok na ba ito for a 20 sq. mt. room?

and what do you think of US Audio 10" vs DTX 10"? saan mas maganda for my set up?

Please advise. Thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bulak_henyo on May 14, 2008 at 06:28 PM
got my 9.1 from S&S two weeks ago. ganda ang tunog using denon 1907. pero ng kinabit ko sya sa power amp, grabe! parang malaking speaker!!  this baby really can sing!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JAQY888 on May 14, 2008 at 07:54 PM
Hi,

I got myself a pair Diamond 9.5 and 9CS. and thinking of getting a WH-2 for rear with Marantz SR3001 70 WPC. Ok na ba ito for a 20 sq. mt. room?

and what do you think of US Audio 10" vs DTX 10"? saan mas maganda for my set up?

Please advise. Thanks

Ayos yan bro. Oks na oks yang napili nyo. Am also using 9.5s and 9CS.
Welcome to the "wharfedale family". hehehe. Why not try 9DFS para kumpleto na 9 series ninyo? heheheh.

With respect to the subs, audition nyo muna para malaman ninyo kung alin ang "type" ninyong tunog. As for me, I auditioned the US Audio subs years back (512), pero mas na-tipuhan ko ang tunog ng DTX.  ;D   
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: eksi on May 14, 2008 at 09:00 PM
got my 9.1 from S&S two weeks ago. ganda ang tunog using denon 1907. pero ng kinabit ko sya sa power amp, grabe! parang malaking speaker!!  this baby really can sing!

what power amp r u using po? Are all the the 7.1 pre-out terminal of the denon 1907 connected to this power amp?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bulak_henyo on May 15, 2008 at 07:28 AM
what power amp r u using po? Are all the the 7.1 pre-out terminal of the denon 1907 connected to this power amp?

im using Cloud 6 channel power amp. 5 speakers lang ang naka-connect. laki ng difference sa 1907 alone. very noticeable!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: capman789 on May 16, 2008 at 06:19 AM
Hi Wharf adopters,

I'm new to this whole HT scene, and this will be my 1st real 5.1 DTS/DD setup with an receiver. I have done setups in the past with PC speakers which lacked kick and was not able to appreciate the real enveloping sound as the my researching had taught me. I would like to make my setup as entertaining as possible and want to get the best sound experience that my budget can offer (which is verly limited :'()

I have a el cheapo teac DTS/DD 5.1 100 wpc receiver and Im interested to get the 9.0s as fronts and rears for my 12sqm bedroom for Music/Movies/Gaming through my PS3 and Xbox. I really have limited space as why im considering these.

I would get the 9.1 with a drop of a hat but I really dont have space for the fronts and I wouldn't want to sacrifice proper placement for just getting more power. The 9.0 can sit on my desk and be at ear level underneath my wall mounted TV along with my center speaker. But a few inches bigger with the 9.1 I will be forced to put up on the Wall on beside the TV which about 3-4 higher than ear level while sitting down and forcing me to install my rears even further higher. Please, please, comment on my setup.

Would I be better off getting a properly placed 9.0 vs a 9.1 mounted on the wall (which is further up and away from ear level?) Would it also be a good pair up with a DTX sub? and a wh2 center?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ramgos on May 16, 2008 at 09:14 AM
Ayos yan bro. Oks na oks yang napili nyo. Am also using 9.5s and 9CS.
Welcome to the "wharfedale family". hehehe. Why not try 9DFS para kumpleto na 9 series ninyo? heheheh.

With respect to the subs, audition nyo muna para malaman ninyo kung alin ang "type" ninyong tunog. As for me, I auditioned the US Audio subs years back (512), pero mas na-tipuhan ko ang tunog ng DTX.  ;D   

I am considering to audition the custom made subwoofers of Nerveblocker vs the DTX and US Audio. I heard so many good things about them kasi. Please comment. Thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: defjam on May 16, 2008 at 03:13 PM
Hi Wharf adopters,

I'm new to this whole HT scene, and this will be my 1st real 5.1 DTS/DD setup with an receiver. I have done setups in the past with PC speakers which lacked kick and was not able to appreciate the real enveloping sound as the my researching had taught me. I would like to make my setup as entertaining as possible and want to get the best sound experience that my budget can offer (which is verly limited :'()

I have a el cheapo teac DTS/DD 5.1 100 wpc receiver and Im interested to get the 9.0s as fronts and rears for my 12sqm bedroom for Music/Movies/Gaming through my PS3 and Xbox. I really have limited space as why im considering these.

I would get the 9.1 with a drop of a hat but I really dont have space for the fronts and I wouldn't want to sacrifice proper placement for just getting more power. The 9.0 can sit on my desk and be at ear level underneath my wall mounted TV along with my center speaker. But a few inches bigger with the 9.1 I will be forced to put up on the Wall on beside the TV which about 3-4 higher than ear level while sitting down and forcing me to install my rears even further higher. Please, please, comment on my setup.

Would I be better off getting a properly placed 9.0 vs a 9.1 mounted on the wall (which is further up and away from ear level?) Would it also be a good pair up with a DTX sub? and a wh2 center?

sir you cant buy the wharf 9.0 seperately, kasama lang sha sa package ng wharf hcp (5.1 system w/subs) i too was on the lookout for these pero i think the 9.1 is better and hindi naman kalaki diff nila in terms of size. Performance wise ok naman feedback sa 9.1 so i guess you'd be better of going with the 9.1 ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: capman789 on May 17, 2008 at 10:20 AM
oohh salamat sir defjam. Thanks for clearing that out.

9.1 it is.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aepaguinaldo on May 18, 2008 at 09:09 PM
Hello,

Just wanted to ask if anyone has experience pairing the 9.1's with the NAD 315BEE, 325BEE or Cambridge Audio 340A.  I'm looking at having a stereo set-up with the following amps. I'll be auditioning, but your experience will be helpful.

I listen to Jazz and Rock music..

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on May 19, 2008 at 11:20 AM
had a nad amp before... it sounds well with wharf 8.3, i think it will match with the 9.1.

pruod owner of 9.1 paired with JD labs  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: catgreg2k2 on May 19, 2008 at 09:20 PM
Hello,

Just wanted to ask if anyone has experience pairing the 9.1's with the NAD 315BEE, 325BEE or Cambridge Audio 340A.  I'm looking at having a stereo set-up with the following amps. I'll be auditioning, but your experience will be helpful.

I listen to Jazz and Rock music..

Thanks in advance.

I had a NAD 320bee pair with 8.1 and i'm really happy with it.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: xtrm_2001 on May 20, 2008 at 03:54 PM
mga gurus ok po ba ang Pioneer VSX-D517 + 9.5 combo?
maraming salamat po...
btw one of our suking tindahan qouted me for the above avr P15,000.00

and sa mga gusto malaman ang updated price (from another suking tindahan) ng:
hk avr347 P43,000.00
hk avr145 P19,600.00

your suggestion is highly appreciated of the same
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on May 20, 2008 at 04:06 PM
I belive you can get the Denon 1708 at below 20k.  Also from skuking tindahan.  You might like to consider it ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: fred_hika on May 20, 2008 at 04:38 PM
I belive you can get the Denon 1708 at below 20k.  Also from skuking tindahan.  You might like to consider it ;D

below 20k hmmm, ok ba ag combo nito sir and may i know who's suking tindahan?  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on May 20, 2008 at 10:43 PM
I can vouch for the combo as I have a similar set up.  Most suking tindahanS are Jeff of Theaterworks (trinoma) aka Nemesis and Mr Vic Chua of Sights and Sounds (shang) aka e-reply.  PM them and you are sure to get competitve prices. Hope this helps and good luck on your set up ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: E-reply on May 21, 2008 at 03:30 PM
I can vouch for the combo as I have a similar set up.  Most suking tindahanS are Jeff of Theaterworks (trinoma) aka Nemesis and Mr Vic Chua of Sights and Sounds (shang) aka e-reply.  PM them and you are sure to get competitve prices. Hope this helps and good luck on your set up ;D

That's right. Suking Tindahan Sights and Sounds is located at 4th level Shangri-La Plaza. For price quote, text to mobile 0917.541.3491.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: xtrm_2001 on May 22, 2008 at 11:53 AM
salamat po sa pm sir e-reply

blackie tnx too.....

my first option sana is hk & wharfes combo, what hk model (budget 20K, 90% audio 10% ht, 20sqm room) will i look for prefered with pre out for future up-grades


maraming salamat po
allan
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on May 22, 2008 at 02:49 PM
Glad to be of help.  A lot HK users here too.  Would be good to ask feedback from them too :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on May 22, 2008 at 03:09 PM
Got this picture from the internet.  You can't see the AVR but can you hear the speakers singing??? ;D ;D ;D

(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee211/braggy13/91-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on May 22, 2008 at 11:17 PM
wala pa din akong speaker stands sa bedroom...

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/empoy/ht21.jpg)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on May 23, 2008 at 11:44 AM
Ganda naman nyan!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: elem on Jun 06, 2008 at 01:27 PM
wharfedale clan,

would like to ask which is more musical, the 9.5 or the 9.6?
currently, i have 9.5, cm and dfs and since il be buying the bada 5 or 2 ch poweramp soon,
does replacing my 9.5 with 9.6 a good upgrade? 60% HT/40% AUDIO  intended usage of the setup.
BTW, HK 335 is my reciever and i dont have a sub yet.


TIA
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jun 07, 2008 at 10:29 AM
wharfedale clan,

would like to ask which is more musical, the 9.5 or the 9.6?
currently, i have 9.5, cm and dfs and since il be buying the bada 5 or 2 ch poweramp soon,
does replacing my 9.5 with 9.6 a good upgrade? 60% HT/40% AUDIO  intended usage of the setup.
BTW, HK 335 is my reciever and i dont have a sub yet.


TIA

depends on the room size and power of your amp. for me a well fed 9.5 would sing a lot better than a malnourished 9.6 so if your amp can give the power then why not.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dyerds on Jun 07, 2008 at 10:42 AM
for me a well fed 9.5 would sing a lot better than a malnourished 9.6 so if your amp can give the power then why not.


Kawawa naman yang 9.6 na yan.  :D Kung sinuman may-ari nyan akin na lang. Promise aalagaan ko mabuti.  :D Heheheh.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jun 07, 2008 at 10:47 AM
Kawawa naman yang 9.6 na yan.  :D Kung sinuman may-ari nyan akin na lang. Promise aalagaan ko mabuti.  :D Heheheh.


hahaha! clear ko lang bro, what I meant by malnourished is you need power and a fairly large room to get the most out of it.  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Toslink on Jun 08, 2008 at 03:54 PM
wharfedale clan,

would like to ask which is more musical, the 9.5 or the 9.6?
currently, i have 9.5, cm and dfs and since il be buying the bada 5 or 2 ch poweramp soon,
does replacing my 9.5 with 9.6 a good upgrade? 60% HT/40% AUDIO  intended usage of the setup.
BTW, HK 335 is my reciever and i dont have a sub yet.

TIA

got also 9.5/9cm and the small 9sr (soon to upgrade), bada 5ch amp on yammy 659. i tried to listen to those bass cd (pang car audio) to my ht setup @ stereo mode (no sub) and wow! alog din bahay ko sa lakas bumayo ng 9.5! you can really hear/see your speaker cones sing and dance! Yun nga busog kasi sa power yung speakers... no need to upgrade your 9.5 bro good yan!!  buy kana lang ng sub for ht.. :D :D :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: elem on Jun 09, 2008 at 01:09 AM
thnx for the replies,

perhaps il just buy the bada 5 channel amp for now and see/hear what happens with my setup.
well i just thought that an upgrade from 9.5 to 9.6 is worth taking and i assumed the bada amp could make the 9.6 perform just like what ive read from other threads.

speaking from my experience, medyo bitin ako sa HK335 driving the 9.5 thats why i prioritize the outboard amp over the sub.

sir toslink, naka bi-amp ung 9.5 and 9cm mo ngayon?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: deni on Jun 10, 2008 at 09:21 AM
hello to everyone!

guys i need info regarding where to get the best deal for a 9.6 and willing to ship here in Baguio City.

All help will be much appreciated. i am helping a buddy here who has a nad receiver 5.1 (i forgot the model)  and currently using tannoy bookshelfs (6.5s) . he wants to have those towering beauties.

thanks in advance.

:)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: metalgodz on Jun 10, 2008 at 10:27 AM
call butch of SGT sir, they have excellent service and very competitive price.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: E-reply on Jun 10, 2008 at 03:19 PM
hello to everyone!

guys i need info regarding where to get the best deal for a 9.6 and willing to ship here in Baguio City.

All help will be much appreciated. i am helping a buddy here who has a nad receiver 5.1 (i forgot the model)  and currently using tannoy bookshelfs (6.5s) . he wants to have those towering beauties.

thanks in advance.

:)

We have Wharfedale 9.6 selling at P17500. We can ship speaker system thru forwarder/ trucking services. Call Sights and Sounds 634-1789 to 90. Or mobile 09175413491. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: deni on Jun 13, 2008 at 08:36 AM
@e-reply

thanks a lot po  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: tennisdude on Jun 18, 2008 at 11:30 AM
i have a decade old mid-level yamaha receiver.  RX-V795 to be exact.  my HT setup has taken a backseat since i moved to a new house.  dami gamit dapat bilhin sa bahay eh before upgrading the gears.  it's just now that i'm slowly getting back to this hobby that i'm planning to upgrade my gears and i'm eyeing the speakers first.  kumbaga dun muna sa mas affordable na upgrade. 

can my 85w per channel amp drive the 9.5 or 9.1?  i'm thinking of getting the 9.1 over the weekend and will temporarily use it for my front to see the improvement then later on get the 9.5 and move the 9.1 to the surround.  will this work?  what can i expect from the wharfes with my old receiver?  is it the age of the receiver that should matter or should it be the power/capability?  btw, my current setup is an all Yamaha speakers (NS-55) package if i'm not mistaken and a 200W+ yamaha active sub.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jun 18, 2008 at 01:47 PM
This will totally depend on the headroom you are looking for. I have tried the 9.1 and 9.5 with so many amps na, my general conclusion is a 50W solid state amp and up is already sufficient for decent spl out of these babies. Even tried it with 8W class D amps and a 2A3 SET amp and it's ok as long as you keep the volume down below clipping level.

Though not as great as their high sensitivity counterparts (high sensitivity speakers means more Pesos too), Wharf speakers only needs just enough juice to make you happy. I think your Yammy will do just fine.  :)


Cheers

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: tennisdude on Jun 18, 2008 at 03:33 PM
thanks for the quick reply JojoD818!

that's the response i was hoping for  ;D.  i think by the weekend i would belong to this club of proud wharfe owner.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jun 18, 2008 at 08:28 PM
We will just welcome you to the club by next week...  ;D

Good luck bro and happy hunting!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Jun 18, 2008 at 08:46 PM
welcome to the club!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Jun 18, 2008 at 08:52 PM
Go for them Tennisdude!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ryn0128 on Jun 18, 2008 at 09:10 PM
bilin muna tennisdude...di ka magsisi dyan....di ba blackie? hehe

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Jun 18, 2008 at 09:12 PM
Ayos na ayos Idol ryn0128! No regrets at all.  Binilhan ko na nga ng "shoes" diba ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Jun 18, 2008 at 09:14 PM
Tigas! Just saw that this topic has been viewed 80000 times! Go go go Wharfedale!!! ;D :o ;D :o
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Jun 18, 2008 at 09:56 PM
ayun oh, diamond 9.1

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/empoy/ht31Small.jpg)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jaklord on Jun 18, 2008 at 10:12 PM
I'm planning to buy wharfe 9.1 and paired it with an ss amp (onkyo integra 817ex, a 105wpc amp) for my audio setup. Ok ba match-up na to? Salamat!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Jun 18, 2008 at 10:53 PM
ayun oh, diamond 9.1

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/empoy/ht31Small.jpg)

Not only gorgeous looking, gorgeous sounding! Great Pic!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dyerds on Jun 20, 2008 at 11:06 PM
ayun oh, diamond 9.1

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/empoy/ht31Small.jpg)

Ang gwapo naman nyan.  :o  ;D  :o
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: tennisdude on Jun 22, 2008 at 10:39 AM
bilin muna tennisdude...di ka magsisi dyan....di ba blackie? hehe



Ok so i got my 9.5 on a stormy saturday night.  it was GOOD on their receiver, i said to myself, this better be good on my amp too having braved the storm and traffic in sshway.

i think i got my 12.5k ROI on the first 30 min listening to them.  i love them!  my wife is impressed too and that's a big plus. i think my front and surround upgrade (i'm looking into 9.1 and 9cm) will get a go-signal real soon ;D. 

sa mga nang-udyok,  maraming salamat  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Jun 22, 2008 at 12:34 PM
ok yang plano mo tennisdude. yan din gamit ko right now.

9.5
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/empoy/ht2Small.jpg)

9.cm
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/empoy/ht3Small.jpg)

9.1
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/empoy/ht5Small.jpg)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ramsey on Jun 22, 2008 at 12:45 PM
Lahat ba talaga ng Wharfedale ngayon sa China na gawa?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Jun 22, 2008 at 04:57 PM
Yes, made in China na lahat. 

It's not a UK company outsourcing the manufacturing operations to a Chinese plant.  Wharfedale is itself a Chinese company now.

The Wharfedale company is owned by IAG (International Audio Group), a Chinese company that manufactures Wharfedale, Quad, Audiolab, Mission, Castle Acoustics, etc.

Wharfedale has only 1 factory, and it's in China.  According to Wharfedale, their factory is over 1 million square feet, where every component is built in-house (they even produce their own packaging).

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dyerds on Jun 22, 2008 at 05:21 PM
Yes, made in China na lahat. 

It's not a UK company outsourcing the manufacturing operations to a Chinese plant.  Wharfedale is itself a Chinese company now.

The Wharedale company is owned by IAG (International Audio Group), a Chinese company that manufactures Wharfedale, Quad, Audiolab, Mission, Castle Acoustics, etc.

Wharfedale has only 1 factory, and it's in China.  According to Wharfedale, their factory is over 1 million square feet, where every component is built in-house (they even produce their own packaging).



Thanks for the info sir.

Is there any difference in the quality of the speakers Wharfe makes now compared when they are still a UK-based company?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Jun 23, 2008 at 12:48 AM
I would say that quality is the same as if the company never left the UK.  It's widely known that Wharfedales continue to enjoy high marks from professional reviewers. 

Quality remains high because Research and Development are still based in the UK.  Head of Engineering is British speaker designer Steve Hewlett, who spends 75% of his time in China where the factories are located, for close coordination with factory operations.

The fact that Wharfes are unbelievably cheap in the Philippines can be viewed as a plus or a minus.  For users like me, it's a definite advantage.  But for others, the cheap price is a turn-off, since the unprestigious image causes them to doubt the product's quality.

The popularity of Wharfes on pinoydvd will give you a good indication of its performance and value.  Wharfedale threads here are at least 177 pages long (82 pages for Wharfe Diamond 8; 95 pages for Wharfe Diamond 9).  No other speaker can even come close.     
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ramsey on Jun 23, 2008 at 11:49 AM
One thing that attract me to the Wharfe 9.1 is the price second the performance. P5500 sa tin pero sa abroad $350.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jun 23, 2008 at 12:13 PM
I used to build speakers din, we even had floorstanders and bookshelf speaker shootouts sa bundok years ago when bago pa lang introduced ang diamond 9 series... it so happened lang that the Wharfs have the most appeal to my ears kaya sila kinuha ko for audio. It's just a big bonus that they are relatively cheap here than abroad...  ;D





Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dyerds on Jun 23, 2008 at 12:23 PM
Yah! Lucky na rin tayo at mura Wharfe's dito. Kaya nung nag-build din ako ng ht there is only one speaker in my mind.  ;D Yes, it's Wharfe!  ;D I fell in love with this speaker the first time I heard it sing. Love at first sight ika nga.  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Jun 23, 2008 at 02:09 PM
proximity wise, mas malapit tayo sa china kaya siguro mas mura  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: milken on Jun 23, 2008 at 04:02 PM
I'm planning to buy Wharfedale speakers:  9.5 (front), 9CS (center) and 9DFS (surround). Parang gusto ko palitan yung 9DFS with 9.1 for surround sound primarily kasi walang stand for 9DFS..dapat i-wall mount lang.  I haven't done actual comparison between the two yet. Ano po advice ninyo?

For the sub, so far I'm leaning toward Polk Audio PSW10 or 12 since I find SW150's bass unsatisfactory.  Any other better sub suggestion for 25 sq.m. room? budget P18T siguro (looking for best bang for the buck)  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Jun 23, 2008 at 04:43 PM
My personal preference would be to advise you to get the 9.1's.  If it is wall mounting you are concerned about, with the DFS a good idea would be to plan ahead and consider how your wires will look like if you mount them on walls. You'd be better off hiding the wires of the 9.1's behind shelves, tables or wherever  you decide to put them on.  If you put the 9.1's on speaker stands, you can hide them more easliy than building a wall or a room just so that you can hide the wires of the DFS'. 9.1's has already won a lot of awards too. Not sure of the DFS.  Check out the gallery and see some of the members' setups whether they are wall mounted or on speaker stands,  Let your heart, budget, specs, personal preference, aesthetic considerations etc help you decide on these beautiful babies.

Cheersand hope this helps,

Black ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: milken on Jun 23, 2008 at 08:03 PM
Thanks Blackie for the reply.  I just talked with the salesman of an av store earlier.  He told me that DFS is a better surround sound speaker compared to 9.1 since the latter is designed as a front speaker and not as surround.  I don't know if he's correct. The difference in price between DFS and 9.1 is small and you're right, a bookshelf surround sound speaker would look nicer than a wall-mounted speaker.  But I want to make sure that the 9.1 would also sound nice as a surround speaker compared to DFS. I'll be using 9.5 as my front speaker by the way.

I'll check out fellow members' setup as suggested. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ericag_ph on Jun 23, 2008 at 10:12 PM
The manufacturer (Wharfedale) would recommend using the DFS instead of the 9.1 for surrounds (ie.  use dipoles instead of monopoles).
For that reason alone, I used DFS instead of 8.1.  ( I have Diamond 8s)

However, to put your mind at ease, 9.1 would do the job just fine.  The fronts and sub and center speakers are far more important than the surrounds.

Out of 600+ DVD origs, I can name with one hand, the number of titles I trully remember and appreciate the surrounds.
Such as:  Saving Private Ryan (landing on the beach), Star Wars, LOTR (Gandalf speaks Mordor in Rivendale), THX logo (Robot flying around - Toy Story),
certain DSP modes on my receiver when playing certain music.

Most of the time the surrounds just produce explosions ...so its really hard to appreciate the speaker. 

Oh, and for a while, I was using BOSE for my rear surrounds, while having Wharfedales for fronts...and when I finally changed to Wharfedale DFS for surrounds, I could hardly tell the difference ;D

But when I used BOSE as fronts compaired with Wharfedales as fronts, the wharfdales
outperformed those same BOSE speakers at least 2x...day and night difference.

So whether you choose 9.1 or DFS or even BOSE  ;D  for your surrounds... you'll be fine   ;D  Just make sure your fronts ROCK!!!
And as advised above, try to demo them, see if you can notice any real difference.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: milken on Jun 23, 2008 at 11:32 PM
Thanks ericag_ph for the informative post.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ericag_ph on Jun 24, 2008 at 12:06 AM
BTW, here's my setup.  There are some links there that should help you further
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=55046.0

for the sub, my earlier research might help:
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=55822.msg601195#msg601195

you have a large 25sqm room, you will likely need at least a 12" subwoofer.


Thanks ericag_ph for the informative post.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Jun 24, 2008 at 03:08 PM
Thanks Blackie for the reply.  I just talked with the salesman of an av store earlier.  He told me that DFS is a better surround sound speaker compared to 9.1 since the latter is designed as a front speaker and not as surround.  I don't know if he's correct. The difference in price between DFS and 9.1 is small and you're right, a bookshelf surround sound speaker would look nicer than a wall-mounted speaker.  But I want to make sure that the 9.1 would also sound nice as a surround speaker compared to DFS. I'll be using 9.5 as my front speaker by the way.

I'll check out fellow members' setup as suggested. :)

Glad to be of help,

I have 9.6's for the front and am quite pleased with the match of the two ;D

Good luck on the search ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: allan1836 on Jun 24, 2008 at 11:15 PM
I've been a loyal wharf user and started with a 8.1, then to a 9.2 and now currently using 9.1 as fronts for my a/v use. I enjoyed each model but one thing I noticed, each model has a slightly different tone. Apparently, the 8 series is probably quite different since it's design and box is different. But what surprised me is that the 9.2 and 9.1 has different tonal quality. Not only in the bass section (because of the bigger woofers of the 9.2) but also on the hi frequency!  ??? I believe all of the 9 series uses the same tweeters but IMHO, I found the hi frequency of the 9.1 more natural and rounded than that of the 9.2.

Can anybody share their experience on the other models of the 9 series?  ;D
   
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chocovim on Jun 28, 2008 at 04:32 PM
good day sir allan1836...

still remember me? im also the proud owner of a pair of diamond 9.5s.  love them. only regret is i live in an apartment and cant really play them loud. :(   january 1 lang pwede itodo. :) denon 2106 ang receiver ko.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on Jun 28, 2008 at 05:39 PM
Can anybody share their experience on the other models of the 9 series?  ;D
 

Sir alan1836, I used to own 9.5 but already sold to my friend. malinis tumunog dahil seguro sa better quality ang woofer materials,it has solid bass but a bit light that can be compensated with good quality SUB.

will not comment when compared with Paradigm Studio 60, weight and built only few factors that affects sound character of any speakers. 

Here's the pix side by side of Ref St60 and Dia. 9.5 (medyo malabo lang, I used celfon.)
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/audiojunkie_album/PARWAF.jpg)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Ctlim on Jun 28, 2008 at 07:39 PM
looks like im one of the few who are not impressed with the performance of the diamond 9s.  :-X
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: -sniper- on Jun 30, 2008 at 10:01 AM
my diamond 9.1 finally arrived last saturday.  ;D the cast is now complete:


                9cs
9.1                            9.1         



9sr                             9sr


 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Jun 30, 2008 at 12:00 PM
congrats!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: reynold on Jun 30, 2008 at 04:31 PM
looks like im one of the few who are not impressed with the performance of the diamond 9s.  :-X


You're not the only one pre, hehe for me ok ang sounds ng 9 series but only just like that, oks lang... nothing so special... i still prefer the Crystal Series (especially Crystal 40), despite of its low sensitivity (86db), these series are better than the 9 series in terms of clarity and Musicality, especially if you'll feed these speakers with enough power, kailangan lang talaga for these set of speakers ok ang power na ibibigay mo for them to show their full potential, that's why i'm still thinking if i'm going to replace it with the 9 series... and for the 9.1 naman, i love its sounds, i've heard it many times na rin but i still prefer my Onkyo Liverpool D200II over the 9.1 (specification wise better din ang liverpool for a bookshelf speaker, 38hz-45Khz, 89db, 6ohms, 150watts max) that's why hindi ko rin maibenta 'to kahit vintage na :)


Well, that's just my own opinion mga sirs ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gcfernando on Jul 01, 2008 at 08:36 PM
Hi,

Anyone used wharfedales for 7.1 setup?  Ano po ang mga model na ginamit ninyo?  :)
[/gmit ko teac ag15d avr, 9.5front,9cs center,4pc. 9dfs rear,dtx 15"sub.. pra ko nsa mlaking cinema
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: nogie on Jul 02, 2008 at 03:50 PM
looks like im one of the few who are not impressed with the performance of the diamond 9s.  :-X

I'm so blessed because of your dislike to your 9.5s, CTlim sold his 9.5s at a price of a "steal". Im still waiting for him to declare his Wharfe 9dfs "a piece of junk"  ;D ;D to (finally) complete my 7.1 set-up. These speakers are awesome with my Onkyo 605S!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: milken on Jul 02, 2008 at 09:19 PM
I'm so blessed because of your dislike to your 9.5s, CTlim sold his 9.5s at a price of a "steal". Im still waiting for him to declare his Wharfe 9dfs "a piece of junk"  ;D ;D to (finally) complete my 7.1 set-up. These speakers are awesome with my Onkyo 605S!!

Wow, congrats.  I just bought Wharfedale 9.5, 9CM and 9DFS.  Sounds good enough for me.  Average lang sya actually.  I find Paradigm monitor speakers better but the price is way too high so I just settled for Wharfedale as my first home theater speakers.  Besides, I can use the savings to buy a 50" plasma.  At its price point, Wharfedale is good enough.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JoeyGS on Jul 03, 2008 at 08:16 AM
Hey guys....congrats to all Wharf owners ;D  Be patient as this babies also require a looooong break-in period.  That means that while you are contented with what you hear when its new,  it will still improve over time.  I have use the 9.5 for my stereo and am still retaining it.  Providing the Wharf with more power will make it sing more.

For the Wharf owners who have made tweaks please post your experience.....good and bad so we can learn and improve.

Wharfs are best bank for the buck.

Warm regards to all Wharfies

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: -sniper- on Jul 03, 2008 at 09:52 AM
bad timing yata pag-post ko ng acquisition ko ng wharfes ah...mga dis-satisfied owners ang sumunod sa post ko.  :'( :'( ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Ctlim on Jul 03, 2008 at 10:23 AM

You're not the only one pre, hehe for me ok ang sounds ng 9 series but only just like that, oks lang... nothing so special... i still prefer the Crystal Series (especially Crystal 40), despite of its low sensitivity (86db), these series are better than the 9 series in terms of clarity and Musicality, especially if you'll feed these speakers with enough power, kailangan lang talaga for these set of speakers ok ang power na ibibigay mo for them to show their full potential, that's why i'm still thinking if i'm going to replace it with the 9 series... and for the 9.1 naman, i love its sounds, i've heard it many times na rin but i still prefer my Onkyo Liverpool D200II over the 9.1 (specification wise better din ang liverpool for a bookshelf speaker, 38hz-45Khz, 89db, 6ohms, 150watts max) that's why hindi ko rin maibenta 'to kahit vintage na :)


Well, that's just my own opinion mga sirs ;)


i've no issues with the 9.1, the 9.5 and the 9cs are by far the worst sounding HT speakers ive owned. I had to turn on the EQ and X-Over of my AVR to adjust it.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 03, 2008 at 10:40 AM
bad timing yata pag-post ko ng acquisition ko ng wharfes ah...mga dis-satisfied owners ang sumunod sa post ko.  :'( :'( ;D ;D


hindi naman bad timing yan bro, we all have our own likes and dislikes and of course entitled to voice them out.  ;)

if you're happy and satisfied with your purchase then good for you! and congrats na din!  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: nogie on Jul 03, 2008 at 10:53 AM
Wow, congrats.  I just bought Wharfedale 9.5, 9CM and 9DFS.  Sounds good enough for me.  Average lang sya actually.  I find Paradigm monitor speakers better but the price is way too high so I just settled for Wharfedale as my first home theater speakers.  Besides, I can use the savings to buy a 50" plasma.  At its price point, Wharfedale is good enough.
I agree, theyre good enough but not better. Actually,I have issues the first time set them using audyssey. My onkyo 605 set the x-over setting at (9.5, 9cs, 9.1) full band w/ subwoofer double bass on at -12db, the sound is muddy at talagang pangit!!! I was able to tame it down when I manually tweak the x-over settings to 80hz but my problem now is the subs, I can hardly hear the boom. Dissatisfied that i also manually adjusted the volume of subs at -6db to compensate the double bass that was turned off when i adjusted the fronts at 80hz. Result was good but not great, sabi ko lang "AWESOME" because i'm fighting my SARS attack!!! ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: milken on Jul 03, 2008 at 11:15 AM
Hey guys....congrats to all Wharf owners ;D  Be patient as this babies also require a looooong break-in period. 

When you say long break-in period... how long is "loooong"?  :D

I agree, theyre good enough but not better. Actually,I have issues the first time set them using audyssey. My onkyo 605 set the x-over setting at (9.5, 9cs, 9.1) full band w/ subwoofer double bass on at -12db, the sound is muddy at talagang pangit!!! I was able to tame it down when I manually tweak the x-over settings to 80hz but my problem now is the subs, I can hardly hear the boom. Dissatisfied that i also manually adjusted the volume of subs at -6db to compensate the double bass that was turned off when i adjusted the fronts at 80hz. Result was good but not great, sabi ko lang "AWESOME" because i'm fighting my SARS attack!!! ;D

What subwoofer are you using?  SW150 ba?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: nogie on Jul 03, 2008 at 12:20 PM
When you say long break-in period... how long is "loooong"?  :D

What subwoofer are you using?  SW150 ba?

US Audio. They're supposed to be boomy.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 03, 2008 at 12:57 PM
US Audio. They're supposed to be boomy.

i'm sure you checked sub phasing...


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Jul 03, 2008 at 01:47 PM
bad timing yata pag-post ko ng acquisition ko ng wharfes ah...mga dis-satisfied owners ang sumunod sa post ko.  :'( :'( ;D ;D

All a matter of personal prefernce if you ask me ;D There will always be newer, more high tech choices, etc. out there.  Going on my second year with the wharfies and i'm very happy with them ;D  When you are alone, or with your firends, you have your favorite ice cold soda soda and buttered popcorn, dim the lights, turn on the A/C, Kick off your shoes, and pop in that favorite DVD of yours, It's only yourself you'll have to satisfy ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: XXXyzledge on Jul 03, 2008 at 01:52 PM
All a matter of personal prefernce if you ask me ;D There will always be newer, more high tech choices, etc. out there.  Going on my second year with the wharfies and i'm very happy with them ;D  When you are alone, or with your firends, you have your favorite ice cold soda soda and buttered popcorn, dim the lights, turn on the A/C, Kick off your shoes, and pop in that favorite DVD of yours, It's only yourself you'll have to satisfy ;D

couldnt agree more bro blackie !!!

no unnescessary 'worst speaker' comment needed............. :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Jul 03, 2008 at 02:03 PM
There you Go!!!
Way to go Wharfedale!!!!! :o :o :o
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Toslink on Jul 03, 2008 at 02:30 PM
All a matter of personal prefernce if you ask me ;D There will always be newer, more high tech choices, etc. out there.  Going on my second year with the wharfies and i'm very happy with them ;D  When you are alone, or with your firends, you have your favorite ice cold soda soda and buttered popcorn, dim the lights, turn on the A/C, Kick off your shoes, and pop in that favorite DVD of yours, It's only yourself you'll have to satisfy ;D

Precisely! Accurately! Exactly!  ;D ;D ;D

the only difference is that pag kasama ko barkada ko hindi ice cold soda and popcorn... ice cold BEER and plenty of plutan!... ;D ;D ;D ;D

There you Go!!!
Way to go Wharfedale!!!!! :o :o :o

GO! GO! GO! yahoooooo!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: -sniper- on Jul 03, 2008 at 02:51 PM

All a matter of personal prefernce if you ask me ;D

i agree.


no unnescessary 'worst speaker' comment needed............. :D

amen to that.

There you Go!!!
Way to go Wharfedale!!!!! :o :o :o

indeed...go go go wharfedale!!!  ;D ;D ;D

what matters most is that you are satisfied with what you have. what's good for one may not be good for me and what sucks for a few sounds extremely good for us.    ::) ;) :D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: skylynx888 on Jul 03, 2008 at 03:08 PM
im also a satisfied wharfedale owner  :D :D :D :D
started with the series 8 model, upgraded to 9 series [9.6/9cm/9dfs/9.1]

and i still have my 8.3 for my audio [ matched with cayin tube amp ] = total happiness  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jpeg on Jul 03, 2008 at 03:11 PM
Hey guys....congrats to all Wharf owners ;D  Be patient as this babies also require a looooong break-in period.  That means that while you are contented with what you hear when its new,  it will still improve over time.  I have use the 9.5 for my stereo and am still retaining it.  Providing the Wharf with more power will make it sing more.

For the Wharf owners who have made tweaks please post your experience.....good and bad so we can learn and improve.

Wharfs are best bank for the buck.

Warm regards to all Wharfies



Nice to hear you still have the 9.5s. :) I changed the internal wires of my EVO 8 to Audience. The sound was cleaner and it seems the speakers got a little bit more life. Very noticable was the extension and crisp sound of the HF. Just what I was looking for. Very good results specially for HT use. I used to have 9.1, 9.2, CS and 9.5. I wasn't into tweaking back then. But if I still had them, I'd defenitely change the wires and caps. The wires used were like the ones you could see at raon. Not that they are bad, but I guess due to age, they get corroded. As per experience, there is a great deal of improvement when I changed the wires.

Jason
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JoeyGS on Jul 03, 2008 at 04:04 PM
When you say long break-in period... how long is "loooong"?  :D



Well I did not acutally count the exact hours but I would say about 6 to 8 months and definitely more than 800 hours because as far as I remember I was using this speakers to break ion in Mundorf caps twice (300 hours x 2) plus my dialy listening sessions.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: reynold on Jul 03, 2008 at 04:11 PM
what matters most is that you are satisfied with what you have. what's good for one may not be good for me and what sucks for a few sounds extremely good for us.    ::) ;) :D ;D


You're right indeed bro, iba-iba lang talaga ang panlasa ng bawat isa sa atin. But beware, once you go down deep into this hobby, you'll ask for more until you have nothing to spend, hehehe ;D ;D ;D


Hey, i'm also a wharfedale user, and wharfedale speakers really are bang for the bucks speakers, no doubt about that ;)

Cheers ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JoeyGS on Jul 03, 2008 at 04:13 PM
Nice to hear you still have the 9.5s. :) I changed the internal wires of my EVO 8 to Audience. The sound was cleaner and it seems the speakers got a little bit more life. Very noticable was the extension and crisp sound of the HF. Just what I was looking for. Very good results specially for HT use. I used to have 9.1, 9.2, CS and 9.5. I wasn't into tweaking back then. But if I still had them, I'd defenitely change the wires and caps. The wires used were like the ones you could see at raon. Not that they are bad, but I guess due to age, they get corroded. As per experience, there is a great deal of improvement when I changed the wires.

Jason

Your welcome Jason......The Wharfs are very practical for its price.  And if you love to tweak,  this would be a nice gear to tweak.  My take on wharfs is that they are warm sounding (british sound) and you can listen to them for long periods without tiring your ears.  The wharfs are not for all.....if you like extended highs, this may not be the speaker for you OR you may want to tweak it to suite your taste.  Bottom line is......the wharfs are affordable and can get anybody into the HT or audio hobby without breaking the bank.  Of course this is my opinion.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 03, 2008 at 08:30 PM
once you go down deep into this hobby

Been there and back for so many times bro...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/session1/P1040583.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/session1/P1040591.jpg)



May naligaw pa na EVO series...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/5a87bd02.jpg)



The type of firepower that was used...

(http://img80.echo.cx/img80/1933/z0365mq.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/session1/P1030629.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/session1/P1030632.jpg)



 :)


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Jul 03, 2008 at 09:16 PM
Been there and back for so many times bro...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/session1/P1040583.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/session1/P1040591.jpg)



May naligaw pa na EVO series...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/5a87bd02.jpg)



The type of firepower that was used...

(http://img80.echo.cx/img80/1933/z0365mq.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/session1/P1030629.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/session1/P1030632.jpg)



 :)




Talk about Firepower!  Great Job Sir!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 03, 2008 at 09:26 PM
eto yun 9.1 noon sa bundok...

wala pa 1 week nilalabas dito sa atin wayback 2005 and uses a different type of firepower... a fiery Dynaco ST70

(http://img15.echo.cx/img15/4511/z0010vq.jpg)

subok din yan 9.1 sa different carts/needles/headshells...


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: rony on Jul 03, 2008 at 09:51 PM
Been there and back for so many times bro...


May naligaw pa na EVO series...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/5a87bd02.jpg)



 :)



Kilala ko yan EVO na yan. Palagi naka downy yun pambalot na kumot dyan.  :D






Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JoeyGS on Jul 03, 2008 at 11:20 PM
I agree, theyre good enough but not better. Actually,I have issues the first time set them using audyssey. My onkyo 605 set the x-over setting at (9.5, 9cs, 9.1) full band w/ subwoofer double bass on at -12db, the sound is muddy at talagang pangit!!! I was able to tame it down when I manually tweak the x-over settings to 80hz but my problem now is the subs, I can hardly hear the boom. Dissatisfied that i also manually adjusted the volume of subs at -6db to compensate the double bass that was turned off when i adjusted the fronts at 80hz. Result was good but not great, sabi ko lang "AWESOME" because i'm fighting my SARS attack!!! ;D

Hi Nogie,

What sort of tweak was done on the x-over? 

Thanks and regards,
JoeyGS
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: XXXyzledge on Jul 04, 2008 at 08:31 AM
ganda ganda ng Wharefedale EVO mo sir Jojo !!!

pm mo lang ako pag gusto mo na pa-ampon yan! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 04, 2008 at 10:48 AM
ganda ganda ng Wharefedale EVO mo sir Jojo !!!

pm mo lang ako pag gusto mo na pa-ampon yan! ;D ;D ;D

hindi po sa akin yan sir, kay KoYA Hans yan... madalas na bisitang pangdangal yan sa bundok pag may audio sessions!  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Jul 04, 2008 at 11:41 AM
Yan ba yung floorstander shoot-out dati?

Ano na nga ba ang resulta doon?  Panalo yata ang Diamond 9.6?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 04, 2008 at 11:46 AM
Yan ba yung floorstander shoot-out dati?

Ano na nga ba ang resulta doon?  Panalo yata ang Diamond 9.6?


Yan na nga yun sir, after that madami sa amin ang bumili ng Wharf pero meron din na iba ang binili like instead of getting a 9.1, ang kinuha is 9.2.


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Jul 04, 2008 at 11:52 AM
Kaya nagtataka ako, it's the first time I've seen negative comments on this thread.

Hindi naman troller si sir ctlim.  Hindi lang niya nagustuhan, mukhang honest opinion naman.

Baka hindi bagay sa amp niya? 

I use a Yamaha receiver, and the sound is very good. Anong mga amps and receivers ang hindi bagay sa Wharfe? 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 04, 2008 at 12:04 PM
Kaya nagtataka ako, it's the first time I've seen negative comments on this thread.

Hindi naman troller si sir ctlim.  Hindi lang niya nagustuhan, mukhang honest opinion naman.

Baka hindi bagay sa amp niya? 

I use a Yamaha receiver, and the sound is very good. Anong mga amps and receivers ang hindi bagay sa Wharfe? 



Si ctlim pa... Siyempre entitled naman tayo lahat to whichever we like, ctlim is just being honest about his personal opinion.  ;)






Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: nogie on Jul 04, 2008 at 02:09 PM
Hi Nogie,

What sort of tweak was done on the x-over? 

Thanks and regards,
JoeyGS
Just the setting in the receiver from full band to 80hz after running Audyssey 2EQ. Tahimik muna ako, he he... I might get lambasted in this thread.But if there's a consolation, these set of wharfe's i owned are far better than my Bose AM10 I sold early this year. Peace!!! :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Jul 04, 2008 at 02:33 PM
Just the setting in the receiver from full band to 80hz after running Audyssey 2EQ. Tahimik muna ako, he he... I might get lambasted in this thread.

Ok lang.  The more inputs, the better.  ;)

Onkyo has a warm sound.  Wharfe also has a warm sound, due to its soft dome.  Matching the two will make the sound doubly warm.

OK lang sa mga gusto yung laid-back sound.  Ayaw nung iba: ngongo daw ang tunog, hinahanap yung crisper, more forward-sounding na output.

Baka mas bagay sa Onkyo ang metal dome like B&W, Monitor Audio or Mission; or Klipsch horns.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: reynold on Jul 04, 2008 at 03:06 PM
Sir Jojod,

Grabe that's alot of spending ha, hehe great items, i like the tube amp especially :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ledrahc on Jul 04, 2008 at 03:16 PM
basta ako, mag 2 years na akong nag-eenjoy sa all black Wharfe 9 series ko.. hehe..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: james16 on Jul 04, 2008 at 06:35 PM
May naligaw pa na EVO series...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/5a87bd02.jpg)





jojo, naalala ko 2loy pang-aalaska kay koya hans sa bundok nun ah lalo na si j_albert nun...  ;D

proper matching lang talaga yan and let your ears decide, ksi eventually ikaw naman ang makikinig nyan

at karamihan sa kwela boys ay alam ko naka-wharf (common brand), ilan lang samin ata ang gumagamit ng ibang brand of speakers (para may variety)

at totoo ang sinabi ni jojo, daming shoot-outs na, been there done that na...

enjoy lang ng enjoy  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Ctlim on Jul 04, 2008 at 06:53 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: milken on Jul 04, 2008 at 11:54 PM
ctlim, thanks for being candid.  Everybody is entitled to voice out his opinion without fear or favor. I'm sure your comments would be helpful to other users and especially to prospective buyers.  It's nice to hear constructive criticism (or negative comment, if you want to call it that way) about the product.  Majority of the active people here are Wharfedale owners (past, present and prospective) so it's expected to hear mostly (but not always) praises about their purchase.  Who would want to bash/discredit their own piece of equipment bought by their hard-earned money? 

A critical review from a Wharfedale owner bears more weight than the praises of a hundred baised owner.  Just my thought. :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: XXXyzledge on Jul 05, 2008 at 08:55 AM
unnecessary???

excuse me lang. but that was my "own" personal assessment of the speaker. unless you want to reprimand me by being my english and sociology professor. that is not an unnecessary comment.

This THREAD reads Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series speakers. It is open to BOTH POSITIVE and NEGATIVE comments. And I still own a 9cs and 9DFS, I have not gotten around to selling it after letting go of the 9.5.

I downgraded to Diamond 9s for my HT as I dont get to use it that much na as Ive been spending time and money on my audio set-up. I did that also because I've been reading this thread and was curious about its perceived Value for Money. Too bad, I did not get the satisfaction most of the people here did.

Now saying its an unnecessary comment?! PS: I am NOT a little boy para masabihan nyan.


AMEN...................
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: WaynedBrain on Jul 06, 2008 at 10:05 AM
Hi Wharfedale gurus,

I got a 42 plasma, pio dv600 and an ordinary 5.1 desktop speakers with woofer(which I need to replace really soon). I really want to experience real surround sound but I don't know what brand to choose. i saw this thread and read good reviews on the 9 series. My room is about L15ft x W 11ft x H 8ft. I have no av amp pa pala.
I wish all speakers to be hung, most probably I'd get the 9.1. Wala na space sa tabi ng TV ko kc puro toys.

So what set of speakers should I buy first? I probably wont buy all of the speakers na 1 time big time. Please help...

I was thinking... buying my stuff in this order:
av amp
front
center/sub
surround(back)




 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: milken on Jul 06, 2008 at 01:43 PM
Hi Wharfedale gurus,

I got a 42 plasma, pio dv600 and an ordinary 5.1 desktop speakers with woofer (which I need to replace really soon). I really want to experience real surround sound but I don't know what brand to choose. i saw this thread and read good reviews on the 9 series. My room is about L15ft x W 11ft x H 8ft. I have no av amp pa pala.
I wish all speakers to be hung, most probably I'd get the 9.1. Wala na space sa tabi ng TV ko kc puro toys.

So what set of speakers should I buy first? I probably wont buy all of the speakers na 1 time big time. Please help...

I was thinking... buying my stuff in this order:
av amp
front
center/sub
surround(back)
 

Receiver: depends on budget and preference (Marantz SR-3001 - usual recommendation of AV stores because of price and saleability, Onkyo 606/705, Denon 1508/1708/1908, etc.)

There are lots of brands of budget speakers to consider. For entry level, JBL, Jamo, Wharfedale, Mission, etc.  For extreme budget, you may want to check speakers in Raon.

If you really prefer Wharfedale as you said, you may want to consider:
Front:  9.1
Center: 9CS
Surround: 9SR
Sub: save for a better sub than SW150, if you like to watch action movies
[Check the brochure in Wharfedale's website.  They have recommended system based on room size.]

I think you can start with front speakers and sub.  Center and surround to follow.

Better if you audition the speakers you want to buy.  If you're coming from pc speakers, you'll find big improvement in sounds in entry-level speakers so it's probably enough for you in the meantime.  And if someday you want to indulge or upgrade, there are lots of better sounding but expensive speakers like B&W, Paradigm, Atlantic, Tannoy, PSB, Dynaudio, etc.  But with these speakers, you need a high-end receiver and probably a power amplifier to appreciate them more.  Hope this helps and don't take my word as gospel truth.  Always trust your ears.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ericag_ph on Jul 06, 2008 at 03:06 PM
order i would take is:

av amp plus the front
center
surround
sub


or

av amp plus the front
sub
center plus surround


--depending on budget


I was thinking... buying my stuff in this order:
av amp
front
center/sub
surround(back)
 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kieron on Jul 06, 2008 at 05:22 PM
Hello guys,

I'm wanting to upgrade my home theater. Still contemplating which amp to buy. Onkyo TX-SR805/875.

Which Wharf diamond 9 series is perfect for my amp? no budget.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iiinas on Jul 06, 2008 at 06:45 PM
Hello guys,

I'm wanting to upgrade my home theater. Still contemplating which amp to buy. Onkyo TX-SR805/875.

Which Wharf diamond 9 series is perfect for my amp? no budget.



sir kieron,

if you are buying either the 805 or the 875, go for the best of the 9 series na. since budget is no object naman pala.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: milken on Jul 06, 2008 at 07:09 PM
Hello guys,

I'm wanting to upgrade my home theater. Still contemplating which amp to buy. Onkyo TX-SR805/875.

Which Wharf diamond 9 series is perfect for my amp? no budget.


Konti lang model nila in the Diamond Series:
9.1 to 9.3 are bookshelf fronts
9.4 to 9.6 are floorstanders front
9cc, 9cs and 9cm are center speakers
9sr and 9dfs are surround speakers
SW150 and SW250 are subwoofers.

The top of the line of Wharf Diamond 9 series therefore are: 9.6 (fronts), 9cm (center), 9DFS (surround) and SW250 (sub)
I suggest you download their brochure for comparison and specs. Reference: http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/range.php?range_id=3 (http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/range.php?range_id=3)

In the alternative, since you have a mid to high end receiver, maybe you may want to look at mid-end speakers too (P60-100T).
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kieron on Jul 06, 2008 at 07:41 PM
what speakers are best for the onkyo 805/875 except for the wharfs?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iiinas on Jul 06, 2008 at 07:58 PM
what speakers are best for the onkyo 805/875 except for the wharfs?

pansin ko dito sir kieron, mga naka onkyo, madami naka mission. if you look at this section, there is a new mission line mv series, halos ka presyo na ng wharfs, but if you want high end mission meron din yung mission na 7series yata.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kieron on Jul 06, 2008 at 08:13 PM
pansin ko dito sir kieron, mga naka onkyo, madami naka mission. if you look at this section, there is a new mission line mv series, halos ka presyo na ng wharfs, but if you want high end mission meron din yung mission na 7series yata.

sorry to ask sir, pero pwede mag pa tulog ng mga models? medyo newbie ako interms of audio.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iiinas on Jul 06, 2008 at 08:30 PM
sorry to ask sir, pero pwede mag pa tulog ng mga models? medyo newbie ako interms of audio.

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=4155.1260 (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=4155.1260)

subukan mo yung above site. may picture and price narin, the prices were quoted by sir vic of sights and sounds shangrila. both high end and entry level missions are posted. happy haunting.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: WaynedBrain on Jul 07, 2008 at 04:37 AM
Receiver: depends on budget and preference (Marantz SR-3001 - usual recommendation of AV stores because of price and saleability, Onkyo 606/705, Denon 1508/1708/1908, etc.)

There are lots of brands of budget speakers to consider. For entry level, JBL, Jamo, Wharfedale, Mission, etc.  For extreme budget, you may want to check speakers in Raon.

If you really prefer Wharfedale as you said, you may want to consider:
Front:  9.1
Center: 9CS
Surround: 9SR
Sub: save for a better sub than SW150, if you like to watch action movies
[Check the brochure in Wharfedale's website.  They have recommended system based on room size.]

I think you can start with front speakers and sub.  Center and surround to follow.

Better if you audition the speakers you want to buy.  If you're coming from pc speakers, you'll find big improvement in sounds in entry-level speakers so it's probably enough for you in the meantime.  And if someday you want to indulge or upgrade, there are lots of better sounding but expensive speakers like B&W, Paradigm, Atlantic, Tannoy, PSB, Dynaudio, etc.  But with these speakers, you need a high-end receiver and probably a power amplifier to appreciate them more.  Hope this helps and don't take my word as gospel truth.  Always trust your ears.  ;D


Thanks for our inputs; Can you give me a rough estimate of the sub n speakers if possible?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: WaynedBrain on Jul 07, 2008 at 04:39 AM
order i would take is:

av amp plus the front
center
surround
sub


or

av amp plus the front
sub
center plus surround


--depending on budget



Thanks, I'll check if my budget will accommodate receiver and fronts.. Hehe! Di naman ako nagmamadali. Appreciate your response btw.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jetstar on Jul 07, 2008 at 05:02 AM
I'm using a Yamaha RX-V361 and just ordered a Polk Audio PSW110. My room is around 16 sq.m. Will Diamond 9.1 sound better than 9.2 or 9.3? I will not have the opportunity to try it first in my room 'coz I don't live in Manila. I'll be using it to our bedroom's HT setup. I've read here that mids and highs sound better with 9.1 compared to 9.2. Is that true? I need your inputs because it would be very expensive if I'll make the wrong choice (shipment, time, etc.). Will 9.3 sound better in playing music with the sub-woofer turned off? What about mids and highs of 9.3 compared to 9.1? Can my entry level receiver drive the 9.3? Thanks in advance. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: defjam on Jul 07, 2008 at 10:11 AM
Hi Everyone!help naman pls. I have a onkyo 604 and planning to get wharf speakers. balak ko sana is 9.1,9cs,9sr and sw150. I gont know kung bagay ang wharfe sa onkyo and based sa nabasa ko medyo bitin dw ung sw150. any suggestions?kasi wala akong budget for trial and error e. this is my first ht pala and sa sala ko ilalagay. approximate size is 10ft by 10ft siguro. ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Jul 07, 2008 at 10:38 AM
Would shop around for a sub,

SW reviews usually lackluster.  I can vouch for performance of the 9.1 great for HT and music ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: milken on Jul 07, 2008 at 11:29 AM
@kieron:  It's difficult to recommend which speakers are best for Onkyo 805/875 since only a few members in this thread have those high-end receivers.  Try to look at the set-up of fellow members using Onkyo 875 like MatZER, danrd and highwayman.  Use the search function.

@WaynedBrain: I'm not familiar with prices of the models you want since I only inquired those I bought: 9.5, 9cm and 9DFS.  I have big room kasi. The SRP of SW150 is P9,000.00 I think.  Just call up any av stores for pricing since most of them sell it in their SRP.  I got mine for less since I also bought plasma and subwoofer.  I can recommend you the store where I bought mine if interested.

@defjam:  I agree with blackie that bitin ang SW150. I've auditioned it and don't like it.  Polk Audio 10" or 12" subs are better than SW150.  Actually there are other better subs out there (mid-range).  But, I followed the recommendation of ericag_ph and the av store I bought from, and ordered Velodyne CHT-12R subwoofer.  It's a high-end sub and costs more than all my other speakers combined.  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: defjam on Jul 07, 2008 at 03:19 PM
Hi Everyone!help naman pls. I have a onkyo 604 and planning to get wharf speakers. balak ko sana is 9.1,9cs,9sr and sw150. I gont know kung bagay ang wharfe sa onkyo and based sa nabasa ko medyo bitin dw ung sw150. any suggestions?kasi wala akong budget for trial and error e. this is my first ht pala and sa sala ko ilalagay. approximate size is 10ft by 10ft siguro. ???

any comments sa onkyo wharfe combo?ok ba sha for ht?for movies ko lang sha mainly gagamitin and ps3. any suggestions pala about sa sub na pasok sa budget of around 8k? ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Jul 07, 2008 at 03:41 PM
Add a bit for the sub and you can get the 10incher from Polk. ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: milken on Jul 07, 2008 at 05:25 PM
@defjam, oks naman onkyo-wharfe set up mo for HT. I agree with blackie, you have to extend your budget on sub.  The last time I asked (2 weeks ago), Jamo sub 200W is cheaper around P6.5T, Wharfe's SW150 is P9T; Polk Audio's 10" is around P12T and 12" is around P15T.  Good luck bro!  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: tuscany on Jul 07, 2008 at 05:59 PM
When I was looking around for subs, I listened to the SW 150, Klipsch rsw 10, cht10r, Usher 10 inch (forgot the model) and Mordaunt Short 909 (12 inches). While I initially liked the Klipsch because of its slam compared to the other 10 inchers , I ended up buying the Mordaunt Short (MS) when I heard it because the slam of the 12 incher is really way farther than the 10s. The Usher was also impressive because of its speed but could not compare with the slam of the MS.

The SW 150 was way cheaper than the others, which were all within the same price class, so it was not surprising that it had the least impact. Although, for music purposes, I would say that it should be sufficient unless you listen to deep bass music.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: defjam on Jul 07, 2008 at 08:33 PM
how about the quality of usaudio or dyna compared to the sw150?medyo around 8k lang talaga pasok sa budget e.sorry sa ot. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blue_123 on Jul 07, 2008 at 09:46 PM
how about the quality of usaudio or dyna compared to the sw150?medyo around 8k lang talaga pasok sa budget e.sorry sa ot. ;D

 Bro galing na ako sa usaudio and dyna, for me mas maganda pa yung sw150 but if i were you if you have extra cash to spare might as well buy a mid ranged sub to prevent you from upgrading again in the future (double gastos pa  :)) Velodyne CHT10 or VX10 S2 or polk audio of course you need to audition muna what you like better, just my 2 cents  ;) Happy Hunting
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Ctlim on Jul 08, 2008 at 06:07 PM
sorry to papa XXXyzledge for my remarks. I misread the quotes.  :-X

let me clear what I said:
1) i said they are the worst sounding speakers "IVE OWNED" pertaining to the 9.5 and the 9cs
2) i am satisfied with the performance of the DFS and marveled by the 9.1
3) Ive had to adjust the x-over and eq of my amp to correct the sound of the 9.5 and the 9cs (which I have never done on my previous speakers)

and let me state and this is my personal take on the speaker as an owner. to some, with different preferences on music output, these might be the best that they've heard. (even when compared to higher, more expensive brands)

 ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kieron on Jul 09, 2008 at 06:59 PM
SW250 is 20k. Meron pa ba mas maganda na sub for this? I'm planning to get:

Wharfdale Diamond 9.6 (Front)
Wharfdale Diamond 9CM (Center)
Wharfdale Diamond 9DFS (Rear Surround)
Wharfdale Diamond 9DFS (Side Surround)

for my setup. Which subwoofer is best for this setup? I heard medyo kulang ang SW250?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Jul 09, 2008 at 07:10 PM

Wharfedale subs are not good, pero OK na rin for small rooms.  In your case, mabibitin ka lang sa Wharfe subs kasi ang laki ng fronts and center mo.

Shop for other subs.  I recommend starting with a 12-inch Velodyne, then a 12-inch Klipsch. 


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: milken on Jul 09, 2008 at 07:22 PM
I agree. There are better subs than Wharfedale especially for HT setup (I don't know for music).  Get a mid to high end subwoofer.  If I remember it correctly, you plan on getting Onkyo 805/875 so I suppose you have the budget to get a better sub to complement your high-powered receiver.  We have almost the same setup although my front is 9.5.  I got Velodyne CHT-12R for my sub.  Try to audition other sub (like Klipsch as suggested by barrister or Usher/Mordaunt Short per tuscany) in the higher price range compared to SW250.  10" high end sub is usually enough for small room.  For big rooms or if you're a bass-person, get a bigger one. Good luck!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ericag_ph on Jul 10, 2008 at 12:04 AM
I tried to compare the SW300 (and SW250) with the Velodyne CHT12R...
basically I found no reviews for the wharfdale sub...
Sales guy said it (wharfedale subs) were sealed subs...so they were better for audio rather than home theater.

If you want to shake the room, the sofa, and get a heart/chest massage...
you will need a sub that can lowwww (need 75 db at 22 Hz for room shaking )  like the CHT12R
here check this link:
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=55822.msg601195#msg601195


SW250 is 20k. Meron pa ba mas maganda na sub for this? I'm planning to get:

Wharfdale Diamond 9.6 (Front)
Wharfdale Diamond 9CM (Center)
Wharfdale Diamond 9DFS (Rear Surround)
Wharfdale Diamond 9DFS (Side Surround)

for my setup. Which subwoofer is best for this setup? I heard medyo kulang ang SW250?

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sidewinder on Jul 10, 2008 at 03:05 AM
guys magkano ba on average ang wharfdale 9.1, per piece ba yun or pair? thanks, planning to get one this weekend after reading the thread hehe... pahingi na din ng advice, ok lang ba yung 9.1 kahit sa maliit na condo lang? thanks in advance
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kieron on Jul 10, 2008 at 07:13 AM
The problem with me is I can't audition. All I do is read your reviews and suggestions. I'm from Bacolod so no stores or dealers here. I just order whichever is good in reviews. hehe

I'll try to read the subwoofer reviews, thanks guys.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iiinas on Jul 10, 2008 at 08:25 AM
guys magkano ba on average ang wharfdale 9.1, per piece ba yun or pair? thanks, planning to get one this weekend after reading the thread hehe... pahingi na din ng advice, ok lang ba yung 9.1 kahit sa maliit na condo lang? thanks in advance

9.1 ang pinaka maganda sa diamond 9 series. kahit dito sa pdvd wala masyadong issues sa mga members. price quoted by the stores here are usually for a pair. its really a bang for a buck.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Jul 10, 2008 at 11:03 AM
SW250 is 20k. Meron pa ba mas maganda na sub for this? I'm planning to get:

Wharfdale Diamond 9.6 (Front)
Wharfdale Diamond 9CM (Center)
Wharfdale Diamond 9DFS (Rear Surround)
Wharfdale Diamond 9DFS (Side Surround)

for my setup. Which subwoofer is best for this setup? I heard medyo kulang ang SW250?


Agree with Barrister,

9.6's are big speakers.  If you set your reciever on large for your fronts they do a pretty decent job of supplying you base.  But if you want something more.......I'd suggest to that you go for a good 12 incher ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Jul 10, 2008 at 11:44 AM
Yup.  the way I see it, the 9.6 is so big and its bass so loud that anything less than a 12-incher would be a waste of money, since the bass on sir kieron's 9.6 can produce even lower frequencies than most subwoofers.

Consider the specs:

The 9.6 low frequency is rated at 28Hz: http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/model.php?model_id=16

The SW-250 low frequency is rated at only 30 Hz at boundary position (placed near walls): http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/model.php?model_id=112

I think an SW-250 would be useless when paired with a 9.6.

Compare that with a Klipsch RW-12, rated at 21Hz: http://www.klipsch.com/products/details/rw-12.aspx ; power is 340 watts continuous and FTC Rated.

Audition a Klipsch RW-12, and you'll find that price is still in the mid-range, yet performance is on a much higher level.
     
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Jul 10, 2008 at 12:14 PM
agree with the bass performance of the 9.6. the bonus is that when you set your fronts to Large, there is not much need to tweak your LFE anymore as it is now level mixed as what was originally intended. only caveat though is you really then need to pair it with a beefy amp.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: E-reply on Jul 10, 2008 at 01:10 PM
SW250 is 20k. Meron pa ba mas maganda na sub for this? I'm planning to get:

Wharfdale Diamond 9.6 (Front)
Wharfdale Diamond 9CM (Center)
Wharfdale Diamond 9DFS (Rear Surround)
Wharfdale Diamond 9DFS (Side Surround)

for my setup. Which subwoofer is best for this setup? I heard medyo kulang ang SW250?


For the same price tag of P20K sub, you may wish to consider the following:
12" Polk Audio PSW125 at 12 months P15790.
Paradigm PDR10 at 12 months P18K
Velodyne VX10 at P18K

Please check these products at Sights and Sounds 4th level Shangri-La Plaza. Or call 634-1789 to 90 for particulars.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: E-reply on Jul 10, 2008 at 01:15 PM
guys magkano ba on average ang wharfdale 9.1, per piece ba yun or pair? thanks, planning to get one this weekend after reading the thread hehe... pahingi na din ng advice, ok lang ba yung 9.1 kahit sa maliit na condo lang? thanks in advance

We sell Wharfedale 9.1 at P5500. cash.

Visit Sights and Sounds at 4th levle Shangri-La Plaza. Tel 634-1789 to 90.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ericag_ph on Jul 10, 2008 at 01:34 PM
Precisely why I didn't get the SW300...or SW250...couldn't audition either one.  It would have been a blind purchase...coupled with the fact
there were hardly any reviews on the net about them. IMHO if you have the budget, you can't go wrong with the Velodyne CHT12R (about P34K). 

The problem with me is I can't audition. All I do is read your reviews and suggestions. I'm from Bacolod so no stores or dealers here. I just order whichever is good in reviews. hehe

I'll try to read the subwoofer reviews, thanks guys.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: XXXyzledge on Jul 10, 2008 at 04:03 PM
i agree with ericag_ph.....

cant go wrong with a velo chtr !!!

if ur room isnt that big, the more affordable cht10r
could also be a good candidate. (less than 30k ata)

i have that 10 incher & its low freq is more than enough
for my bass craving! ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: milken on Jul 10, 2008 at 05:33 PM
I just read somewhere that Wharfedale speakers are warm speakers.  What receiver is the best match for it?  (sorry if this has been asked before..)

Is Onkyo, which some consider as a warm receiver, a good match for Wharfe?  Oks lang ba effect ng warm receiver with warm speaker?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Jul 10, 2008 at 07:09 PM
I just read somewhere that Wharfedale speakers are warm speakers.  What receiver is the best match for it?  (sorry if this has been asked before..)

Yes, Wharfes are considered warm or laid-back, as distinguished from bright or forward-sounding.

Best match is a Yamaha receiver.


(sorry if this has been asked before..)

Yes, the topic has been extensviely discussed a few years back.  OK lang.  I know it's not going to be easy to search for the old posts.

Receiver-speaker matching was a perennial hot topic in those days.  I noticed that when flat panel TVs became popular due to price drops, audio discussions became a cold topic.   


Is Onkyo, which some consider as a warm receiver, a good match for Wharfe?  Oks lang ba effect ng warm receiver with warm speaker?

It depends on your preference.

You might like a warm sound if you want to listen for long periods without fatigue, and you don't mind sacrificing some clarity and detail.

For me, the effect is unacceptable, especially for movies.  I like the dialog in my movies to be crystal-clear.  A too-warm sound causes muffled dialog.   
Title: Best match receiver for Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: milken on Jul 10, 2008 at 07:50 PM
Sir barrister:
How about Denon or HK?  It seems that Onkyo is more popular these days because of their more advanced features like ability to decode HD audio formats in lower end models as compared to the competition.

Although OT, it would be nice if you could post, as far as you could recall, the best match for each brand of speaker and receiver for the benefit of the newbies here.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Ctlim on Jul 10, 2008 at 09:26 PM
sir barrister, just a question, I use a SONY STRDE-835 receiver, as per those who have knowledge with my AVR, they said that it also is on the warm side, when I paired it with a wharfdale diamond set, it sucked. I only fixed the problem by tuning my amps x-over and eq to death.

would this be an issue of being overly warm? i don't think thats a good sound characteristic for HT (movie viewing). Ive heard from numerous members swearing that the HK and Wharf Diamond combo is a winner. Maybe matching is very very important for wharfdales???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: natosan on Jul 10, 2008 at 09:39 PM
just got my black 9.1s today and talk about bang for the back. You're looking at a happy camper! Paired it with my Onkyo receiver and agree it's on the warm side. Love it with bossa nova music tho. Will try it tonite for movies but may need to tweak it a bit. Hope to get the 9cs and 9dfs this weekend...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sidewinder on Jul 10, 2008 at 10:28 PM
gonna buy those 9.1s din tomorrow, na audition ko na, ok lang ba i pair sa teac ag-15d or kenwood krf v6070? yun kse balak kong bilhin na amplifier, yun lang pasok sa budget, hehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Poloman888 on Jul 11, 2008 at 12:57 AM
gonna buy those 9.1s din tomorrow, na audition ko na, ok lang ba i pair sa teac ag-15d or kenwood krf v6070? yun kse balak kong bilhin na amplifier, yun lang pasok sa budget, hehe

Try not to rush. If you're working on a budget, hold it off and save some more on an amp that will satisfy you. Mahirap kasi yung "pwede na yan." You might find yourself in the SARS path, sooner than later, especially when you hear the set-ups of others and visit AV shops.

Good luck  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Jul 11, 2008 at 01:27 AM
How about Denon or HK? 

For Denon, try Mission, Monitor Audio and B&W.

For HK, some members like Wharfe.  But I've heard an HK-Wharfe audition, and I didn't like it.  It's fine for music, but on movies, it lacks bite.  Detail and clarity are a bit less than I would prefer for movies. 

HK with JBL speakers and HK with Klipsch speakers sound very good.


Although OT, it would be nice if you could post, as far as you could recall, the best match for each brand of speaker and receiver for the benefit of the newbies here.  :)

I honestly don't think I'm qualified to give a rundown of matching receivers and speakers.  ;D   

I'm sure sir Matzter can do a much better job.  That guy auditions anything he can get his hands on  :D

I suggest that you post an inquiry on the thread of the specific receiver/speaker you're interested in.  That way, we'd have a better chance of gettting reliable answers.


sir barrister, just a question, I use a SONY STRDE-835 receiver, as per those who have knowledge with my AVR, they said that it also is on the warm side, when I paired it with a wharfdale diamond set, it sucked. I only fixed the problem by tuning my amps x-over and eq to death.

I'm not familiar with the Sony receivers, but I can say this much: If you need a lot of tuning and EQ to get the sound right, then that's a sure sign of receiver-speaker mismatch.

Personally, I avoid processing because I want the encoded material to be reproduced as accurately as possible.

On well-authored discs, the sound should be perfect or near-perfect with zero processing.  You should need tuning only on poorly mastered discs.


would this be an issue of being overly warm? i don't think thats a good sound characteristic for HT (movie viewing). Ive heard from numerous members swearing that the HK and Wharf Diamond combo is a winner.

Yes, it could be an issue of being overly warm.  That's not good for movies, since you lose the clarity and details necessary to accurately reproduce high frequency effects and imaging.

I've also heard praises about the HK-Wharfe Diamond combination, but I'm of a different opinion.  To me, dialog is not clear enough; and high frequency effects are not sharp enough.     


Maybe matching is very very important for wharfdales???

Actually, matching is critical for any receiver-speaker combination.  If you don't get it right, it's going to be very hard to get a good-sounding system. 

That's why I'm puzzled as to why the subject of matching has been neglected for some years in this forum.

As for Wharfedales, they are truly well-made speakers using top-notch design and materials.

The problem is that they are not neutral-sounding speakers.  But there's nothing wrong with them; they're just intentionally designed that way. 

Wharfedale's sound signature is characteristic of the "British sound", which is more laid-back than the more forward, in-your-face "American sound". 

Wharfedales are designed to work well for receivers that are neutral-sounding to bright.


gonna buy those 9.1s din tomorrow, na audition ko na, ok lang ba i pair sa teac ag-15d or kenwood krf v6070?

Wala akong balita sa combination na yan.  Pero ang napansin ko, kung TEAC or Kenwood, sa 5th Avenue ka siguro tumitingin?   

They have a bad reputation in this forum.  Please browse this before deciding:

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=42532.0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Ctlim on Jul 11, 2008 at 10:06 AM
Thanks bro. On my old Sony AVR - Mission 7 series set, the sound was perfect even when everything was flat. Ive learned my lesson, dont mess with what isnt broke.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jetstar on Jul 15, 2008 at 01:17 AM
Yes, Wharfes are considered warm or laid-back, as distinguished from bright or forward-sounding.

Best match is a Yamaha receiver.


Will Wharfedale 9.1 sound better with Onkyo 605 than Yamaha RX-V361?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ivannn on Jul 15, 2008 at 09:32 AM
Will Wharfedale 9.1 sound better with Onkyo 605 than Yamaha RX-V361?

im also interested in knowing the answer to the above :) yamaha user here.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Jul 15, 2008 at 10:44 AM

It will depend on your tastes, but most would say that Wharfedale will sound worse with an Onkyo.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ivannn on Jul 15, 2008 at 11:21 AM
yup yup. just inquiring in case there are many members here have already tried that combination. considering an upgrade of the speakers very soon for HT. for audio i connected an altec lansing 15" for 2 channel listening.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: reynold on Jul 15, 2008 at 01:12 PM
It will depend on your tastes, but most would say that Wharfedale will sound worse with an Onkyo.

I agree with this... but still, you have to try it for yourself bro :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jetstar on Jul 16, 2008 at 12:34 AM
It will depend on your tastes, but most would say that Wharfedale will sound worse with an Onkyo.

Sir, is this considering the fact that Yamaha RX-V361 is an entry level and Onkyo 605 as mid-level receiver? How about if I go to high-end model such as Onkyo 805?  I'm considering the idea of upgrade on my receiver. I might be able to get an Onkyo receiver from the US which is very cheap (around 34k for 805 with freight) but if I need to upgrade my speaker, the savings won't be sufficient to justify it. So I might as well get a mid-level Yamaha receiver locally if that's the case. ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Jul 16, 2008 at 10:12 AM

No, I was discussing the brand without reference to model number.  Wharfedale matches better with Yamaha than Onkyo.

You're right.  Upgrading to a mid-level Onkyo will require you to replace your speakers with a matching model.  But upgrading to a mid-level Yamaha will allow you to retain your Wharfedales.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JoeyGS on Jul 16, 2008 at 10:45 AM
To all wharfedale users, would anyone care to send me information on the crossover used for the Wharfedale Diamond 9.5.  I need the values of the coils, resistors and the caps.  If anyone has the pcb schematics, it will also be of great help.

Thanks and regards,
JoeyGS
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: merdenoms on Jul 16, 2008 at 01:37 PM
to wharfs and yamaha gurus:

i'm new to this hobby so bear with me. What specific Yamaha and Wharfedale speakers that would fit on my 25-30k budget. my room is small so i think 2.1 setup will do. pls indicate the model and the price of each receivers and speakers. TNX GURUS!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ericag_ph on Jul 16, 2008 at 03:12 PM
Yamaha RXV-361  - 5.1 receiver - P13800
Wharfedale Diamond 9.1 - P5500  (I use the Wharf 8.1 with the Yam 361)
The rest, for your sub.
But, I suggest trying those out first before getting a sub.

to wharfs and yamaha gurus:

i'm new to this hobby so bear with me. What specific Yamaha and Wharfedale speakers that would fit on my 25-30k budget. my room is small so i think 2.1 setup will do. pls indicate the model and the price of each receivers and speakers. TNX GURUS!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: merdenoms on Jul 16, 2008 at 03:51 PM
sir ericag where can i audition these speakers and amplis? what sub would you recommend? if i plan to go for 5.1 setup(for future upgrade), does the yammys power can drive these speakers potential? TIA
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ericag_ph on Jul 16, 2008 at 05:46 PM
I bought mine at megamall - listening room

For the sub at 10K...I'm not sure... I went with a Velodyne (P34K)

sir ericag where can i audition these speakers and amplis? what sub would you recommend? if i plan to go for 5.1 setup(for future upgrade), does the yammys power can drive these speakers potential? TIA
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: merdenoms on Jul 16, 2008 at 06:06 PM
i'd go for polk audio 12k sub then wharfedale 9.2 then yamaha ampli... do these 3 compliment with each other?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blued888 on Jul 20, 2008 at 02:57 AM
What finishes are available for the Diamond 9's besides black ash?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dyerds on Jul 20, 2008 at 01:23 PM
Afaik here in the Philippines rosewood and black lang. Kasi yun palang nakikita ko. Pero sa website nila may available na silver, cherry at beech.

Here check this out.  :)

http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/range.php?range_id=3 (http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/range.php?range_id=3)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jpeg on Jul 20, 2008 at 03:20 PM
They used to have cherry and beech. But rosewood is the best. IMO. :)

Jason
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: E-reply on Jul 20, 2008 at 05:13 PM
i'd go for polk audio 12k sub then wharfedale 9.2 then yamaha ampli... do these 3 compliment with each other?

Wharfedale complement well with Yamaha. However, the 9.2 though bigger, is not a popular choice in the Diamond series. For a bookshelf, I suggest you get the 9.1 which can deliver pleasing music and movie sound. The 9.1 2 way speaker has a good timbre balance mid and bass driver that deliver just the right sound: forward, immediate, incisive, and vivid sound for movie yet it also delivers rich, warm, full, and punchy music. The 9.2 has a bit aggressive bass that somehow squash or crush the high and mid sounds. In effect, it delivers boomy bass. The overall sounds a bit muddy and blurred.

The Polk Audio PSW110 is a good choice for the Yamaha-Wharfedale tandem.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: E-reply on Jul 20, 2008 at 05:31 PM
What finishes are available for the Diamond 9's besides black ash?

We have Diamond 9's in black, rosewood and cherry color.

Visit Sights and Sounds 4th level Shangri-La Plaza. For further inquiry, call 634-1789 to 90.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: satelyt9 on Jul 21, 2008 at 07:29 PM
Sirs, what surround speakers would you recommend for a 3m x 4m room, wharfedale diamond 9dfs or 9sr? thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: E-reply on Jul 21, 2008 at 07:47 PM
Sirs, what surround speakers would you recommend for a 3m x 4m room, wharfedale diamond 9dfs or 9sr? thanks.

For surround, dipole speakers like Wharfedale Diamond 9DFS has better advantage than the front firing bookshelf speakers: it take produces a wider soundfield and also provide greater speaker placement flexibility. If you have side walls-left and right-to hang 9DFS speakers, you can at least push back your couch to the rear back wall. This allows you to enjoy spectacular wide ambience sounds even on a small room.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on Jul 21, 2008 at 09:04 PM
We have Diamond 9's in black, rosewood and cherry color.

Visit Sights and Sounds 4th level Shangri-La Plaza. For further inquiry, call 634-1789 to 90.


Sir, available ba ang 9.1 and 9.5 in Cherry and Rosewood color? What's their current prices/pair? Thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: E-reply on Jul 22, 2008 at 10:30 AM
Sir, available ba ang 9.1 and 9.5 in Cherry and Rosewood color? What's their current prices/pair? Thanks

We have both 9.1 and 9.5 in cherry color. Please text us at 09175413491, if you wish to have cherry color prepared for purchase.

9.1 at cash P5500.
9.5 at cash P12500.

For further inquiry, call Sights and Sounds 634-1789 to 90.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: satelyt9 on Jul 22, 2008 at 10:47 AM
Sir how much for a a pair of 9dfs? meron po bang available na rosewood para match sa color ng fronts ko.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Ctlim on Jul 22, 2008 at 11:03 AM
rosewood na DFS??? wala nun.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on Jul 22, 2008 at 11:34 AM
We have both 9.1 and 9.5 in cherry color. Please text us at 09175413491, if you wish to have cherry color prepared for purchase.

9.1 at cash P5500.
9.5 at cash P12500.

For further inquiry, call Sights and Sounds 634-1789 to 90.

Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: E-reply on Jul 22, 2008 at 01:16 PM
Sir how much for a a pair of 9dfs? meron po bang available na rosewood para match sa color ng fronts ko.

Since 9DFS is a dipole, its appearance is simply a buffle covered with black grille cloth. So, there's really no wooden cabinet to highlight the color.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iiinas on Jul 23, 2008 at 02:34 PM
gurus,

i am on a wharfedale atlantics (quite old) onkyo 604 combi, the sounds ok, a bit warm but oks na, i'm more of a ht than music person anyway, but i am thinking of upgrading to a diamond 9 set-up, but am now contemplating if this is the way to go since the release of the mission mv series, the price of diamond wharfes and these missions are practically the same. i haven't audition the mvs, i have heard how the diamonds sound. my question since sabi nila onkyo+mission better than whafes + onkyo. which do you guys think will be better? (parang mas maliit ang sizes ng mv missions kasi)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jpeg on Jul 23, 2008 at 02:59 PM
In my experience, I like the Wharfes partnered with Yamaha. Denons and Wharfs are ok too. If you're more into HT, I suggest you look for a more aggressive speaker if to be paired with your onkyo.

Then again, there's always the tone control option. Hehe.

Good luck!

Jason
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iiinas on Jul 23, 2008 at 03:02 PM
In my experience, I like the Wharfes partnered with Yamaha. Denons and Wharfs are ok too. If you're more into HT, I suggest you look for a more aggressive speaker if to be paired with your onkyo.

Then again, there's always the tone control option. Hehe.

Good luck!

Jason

thanks, so without going into the models, do you think missions are more aggressive than wharfes?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jpeg on Jul 23, 2008 at 03:21 PM
Based on the previous models i've heard, yes.

Jason
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iiinas on Jul 23, 2008 at 03:27 PM
Based on the previous models i've heard, yes.

Jason

thanks sir jason.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jpeg on Jul 23, 2008 at 04:24 PM
Just check if missions have good aftersales service now. Wharfes have excellent aftersales service. Not that you'll need it. :) Just to make sure. You might get the lemon out of a thousand? Who knows...

Jason
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iiinas on Jul 23, 2008 at 04:27 PM
Just check if missions have good aftersales service now. Wharfes have excellent aftersales service. Not that you'll need it. :) Just to make sure. You might get the lemon out of a thousand? Who knows...

Jason


ok thanks. but based on the mission thread, they change distributors and dealers already, so s&s is one of their dealers too. so same na ang dealer ng wahrfes and mission (in s&s's case).
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jpeg on Jul 23, 2008 at 04:42 PM
That's good to hear. Good luck in your hunt.

Jason
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Cybie on Jul 26, 2008 at 04:13 AM
Kaya ba bro i power ng Pioneer VSX-D710s ang 9.1? Binigyan kasi ako ng lumang receiver ng mom ko plan ko sana mag start sa 9.1 kasi budget friendly. Thanks po.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mercury724 on Jul 26, 2008 at 10:06 AM
sir e-reply, how much is the diamond 9dfs?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: E-reply on Jul 26, 2008 at 10:12 AM
Kaya ba bro i power ng Pioneer VSX-D710s ang 9.1? Binigyan kasi ako ng lumang receiver ng mom ko plan ko sana mag start sa 9.1 kasi budget friendly. Thanks po.

9.1 can matched well with any Pioneer receiver, especially with the VSXD710 which can deliver more power to create better dynamic sound to 9.1.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: E-reply on Jul 26, 2008 at 10:12 AM
sir e-reply, how much is the diamond 9dfs?

We sell 9DFS at P4500.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: fred_hika on Jul 30, 2008 at 08:48 PM
Yamaha RXV-361  - 5.1 receiver - P13800


sir may pre-out po ba?

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ecwagas on Jul 30, 2008 at 11:40 PM
hello, mero po akong diamond 9.6 peru hindi gumana ang tweeter niya. deperensyado ang kanyang speaker network divider. saan po tayo maka order? at magkano? thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lrdcly on Jul 31, 2008 at 12:25 AM
hi. magkano kaya yun prices of the ff? and san available?

diamond 9.4
diamond 9.1
diamond 9cs

anong ma recommend nyo na receiver para dito? 15-20k budget...

thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lrdcly on Aug 01, 2008 at 10:16 PM
sorry for this noob qeustion..
when you buy speakers ba? for example wharfe na floorstander.. pair na ba yon? sorry noob ako pag dating sa home audio e..hehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lrdcly on Aug 01, 2008 at 10:22 PM
1 more question..

kaya ba ng HK avr 245 or 145 drive ang wharfe 9.5 or 9.4? thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blued888 on Aug 02, 2008 at 03:09 AM
sorry for this noob qeustion..
when you buy speakers ba? for example wharfe na floorstander.. pair na ba yon? sorry noob ako pag dating sa home audio e..hehe

usually per pair ang mga speakers, except for the center channel.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jetstar on Aug 02, 2008 at 03:40 AM
Sir Vic pa PM naman ng PDVD member price ng 9.SR. Do you have cherry color to match  dun sa pinareserve ko na 9.1? Tnx.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: E-reply on Aug 02, 2008 at 08:31 AM
sorry for this noob qeustion..
when you buy speakers ba? for example wharfe na floorstander.. pair na ba yon? sorry noob ako pag dating sa home audio e..hehe

In the Phil., speakers are sold in pairs, except for center speaker or sub woofer that are sold in a piece.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: E-reply on Aug 02, 2008 at 10:45 AM
Sir Vic pa PM naman ng PDVD member price ng 9.SR. Do you have cherry color to match  dun sa pinareserve ko na 9.1? Tnx.

9SR Cherry color is available at P3800.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lrdcly on Aug 02, 2008 at 12:45 PM
In the Phil., speakers are sold in pairs, except for center speaker or sub woofer that are sold in a piece.

thanks for the info sir! :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: natosan on Aug 02, 2008 at 10:37 PM
hi mga sir. Have 9.1, 9cs and 9dfs plus onkyo sub driven by a entry level onkyo 5xx series. So far ok naman yun SQ since nag bi-amp ako. I keep reading the wharfes are hard to drive that's why i'm thinking of thinking of hk avrs. Nag audition ako with hk 245 and found the combo much cleaner sound.  My question is will there be a significant difference in SQ between using hk 145 and hk 245. Don't want to spend unnecessarily with the other features ng 245. I'm happy with my 5.1 and our room is not ideal for 7.1 set-up. Kaya nga lang, I think di na ako pwede mag bi-amp sa 145. Help pls!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Ctlim on Aug 02, 2008 at 10:55 PM
actually its not cleaner sound, the HK kasi sounds brighter than the Onkyo... it contributes to a cleaner and crisper sound out of the wharfdales. I myself found that out in pairing the wharfs with an HK330 versus a warmer Sony STR AVR.

best to go with a higher model but i think the HK145 can drive the Wharfs and deliver a good HT presentation.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mojako on Aug 03, 2008 at 11:44 AM
is the 9.0 available here?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: E-reply on Aug 03, 2008 at 12:56 PM
is the 9.0 available here?

Local Wharfedale does not carry the 9.0. 9.0 is only available on a package system 9HCS that consists of 5 units of 9.0 and a powered subwoofer. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: nogie on Aug 03, 2008 at 06:34 PM
is the 9.0 available here?
Quote
actually its not cleaner sound, the HK kasi sounds brighter than the Onkyo... it contributes to a cleaner and crisper sound out of the wharfdales. I myself found that out in pairing the wharfs with an HK330 versus a warmer Sony STR AVR.

best to go with a higher model but i think the HK145 can drive the Wharfs and deliver a good HT presentation.

Hey Mojako, I think i know you? Are you the former officemate of CTLim who works now as an executive of a big ice cream company?

Mods, sorry for the OT.... I think I just found a long lost friend..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Ctlim on Aug 03, 2008 at 06:51 PM
i dont think si gel yan. sa hcp at vcp lang yun. his handle is ultraman.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Aug 04, 2008 at 11:50 AM
OT...


funny i know Gel myself from way back (cervini)...such a small world indeed. btw, mojako i think is HCP and CSG as well (not sure)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: natosan on Aug 05, 2008 at 04:36 PM
mr. wang, maraming salamat sa comment mo.

after auditioning ms908 speakers (paired w/ ca amp), i realized na i prefer yung warm and laid back sound kasi ang sarap magpatulog lalo na audiophile voices cd. kaya lang if i go to higher volumes, parang di na kaya(distorted) ng onkyo receiver ko. either i go for a higher onkyo model or go for the hk. haay SARS na naman....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: nogie on Aug 05, 2008 at 04:44 PM
OT...


funny i know Gel myself from way back (cervini)...such a small world indeed. btw, mojako i think is HCP and CSG as well (not sure)
;D ;D ;D We use to call him mojako.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Ctlim on Aug 06, 2008 at 11:13 PM
OT: Mojako and Ultraman (Gel A.) of HCP are different persons.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mercury724 on Aug 08, 2008 at 11:10 PM
mga sirs, any feedback regarding wharfedale diamond 9.2 and 9.SR? baka meron po kayong insights regarding this particular models.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: natosan on Aug 09, 2008 at 11:55 PM
do u think the hk 154(u.s. model 30wpc) can still make the 9.1 sing not just drive it?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mojako on Aug 10, 2008 at 10:26 PM
yea tama sila.  Im not ultraman and i dont work for an ice cream company. 

sayang, kala ko may diamond 9.0 dito.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sidewinder on Aug 11, 2008 at 03:56 AM
this may sound too dumb a question but i'll ask it anyway, where do i connect my standard wires in my 9.1? i'm not gonna use the "bi-wire" method, just a simple connection.... it has HF + - and LF +-... thanks in advance :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: omeldoc on Aug 11, 2008 at 07:44 AM
this may sound too dumb a question but i'll ask it anyway, where do i connect my standard wires in my 9.1? i'm not gonna use the "bi-wire" method, just a simple connection.... it has HF + - and LF +-... thanks in advance :)

if the "gold-plated" flat metal connectors are still attached (connecting the two + terminals and the two - terminals) then all you have to do is connect your wires to a corresponding
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: omeldoc on Aug 11, 2008 at 07:49 AM
mga sirs, any feedback regarding wharfedale diamond 9.2 and 9.SR? baka meron po kayong insights regarding this particular models.

way back when, I was choosing between the 9.1 and 9.2, i chose the 9.2 kasi gusto ko abot sa kitchen yung sound  ::) however, when connected sa marantz AVR at home, the speakers did okay on jazz and vocals but not on rock, symphonics, hip-hop/rnb. plus, medyo muddy ang bass. pero syempre, malaking factor din ang room acoustics and related gears mo, so my impressions are still applicable only to my setting. like most gurus say, auditioning is the key (much better if you can test in your house with your gear  ;D ). HTH   
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: E-reply on Aug 11, 2008 at 09:01 AM
mga sirs, any feedback regarding wharfedale diamond 9.2 and 9.SR? baka meron po kayong insights regarding this particular models.

That's right, 9.2 is a bit murky in bass parformance due to bigger bass driver that is not timbre-matched well with high-mid speakers drivers. 9.1 has better tonal balance divers. 9.1 sings well in music and video.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Aug 11, 2008 at 10:12 AM
this may sound too dumb a question but i'll ask it anyway, where do i connect my standard wires in my 9.1? i'm not gonna use the "bi-wire" method, just a simple connection.... it has HF + - and LF +-... thanks in advance :)

Do not remove gold plate.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: natosan on Aug 11, 2008 at 10:37 AM
after a month with the 9.1s, i finally heard it sing yesterday when i bi-amped it with my htib onkyo receiver.  :) :) :) actually, it wasn't the first time I bi-amped it but the last time the highs were subdued by the mid/low. i attached left speaker's HF to the the front speaker terminal and the right speaker HF's to the surround speaker. surprisingly, it works. tried the matching but didn't work.   

i suppose if you already have a high wattage receiver you wouldn't need to biamp. also tried bi-wiring and the clarity was better than single wiring.

my problem now is my 9cs can't seem to keep up with the 9.1s when playing the movies even if i already increased the level +10dB. i''m thinking about the 9cm. heard it before and it was really good but the 9.1s with single wiring could not keep up with it. what do you guys think of this solution? ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Aug 11, 2008 at 10:52 AM
Contemplating on getting the Cm too.  It's one big speaker ;D  Might have challenges space wise. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sidewinder on Aug 11, 2008 at 11:02 AM
Do not remove gold plate.


sir i mean, where do i connect it, in HF or LF? thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: natosan on Aug 11, 2008 at 11:02 AM
it's HUGE!!!! Drawfs the 9.1s in appreciation which is one of my concerns as well. great improvement on the sound over 9cs though..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Aug 11, 2008 at 11:19 AM

sir i mean, where do i connect it, in HF or LF? thanks

Will not matter.  The gold plate serves as the connector so that both your LF and HF will work.  Take it out then you miss out on one of the frequencies.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sidewinder on Aug 11, 2008 at 11:34 AM
^^^ thanks sir for the quick reply :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Aug 11, 2008 at 12:32 PM
Cheers! 

Good luck on the setup ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Aug 11, 2008 at 12:36 PM
it's HUGE!!!! Drawfs the 9.1s in appreciation which is one of my concerns as well. great improvement on the sound over 9cs though..

Have 9.6's for the front so I think they'll be a pretty good match.  Have not had the chance to audition the CM yet though......Hope to be able to do so soon ;D  Baka we can get a discount if group buy (don't know if two buyers is counted as a group buy.hehe)? ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Aug 11, 2008 at 06:13 PM
Have 9.6's for the front so I think they'll be a pretty good match.  Have not had the chance to audition the CM yet though......Hope to be able to do so soon ;D 

Ayos na ayos ang CM sa 9.6 sir.  Wharfedale recommends the match:

LARGE SYSTEM – 5.1

Front – 2 x Diamond 9.6
Rear – 2 x Diamond 9.DFS
Centre – 1 x Diamond 9.CM
Subwoofer – SW250

From Diamond 9 brochure (see page 13): http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/images/ranges/brochure_3.pdf
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: milken on Aug 11, 2008 at 07:41 PM
for me, the center speaker is the most important in a home theater because all dialogue come from that speaker.  it's the speaker that will be used most especially if you like to watch drama and comedy.  besides, ang laki ng front mo 9.6 baka malunod yung sounds galing sa center mo.  hehe. :D  get the biggest center speaker of wharfe for better match.  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mercury724 on Aug 11, 2008 at 09:13 PM
way back when, I was choosing between the 9.1 and 9.2, i chose the 9.2 kasi gusto ko abot sa kitchen yung sound  ::) however, when connected sa marantz AVR at home, the speakers did okay on jazz and vocals but not on rock, symphonics, hip-hop/rnb. plus, medyo muddy ang bass. pero syempre, malaking factor din ang room acoustics and related gears mo, so my impressions are still applicable only to my setting. like most gurus say, auditioning is the key (much better if you can test in your house with your gear  ;D ). HTH   
salamat sir for the fyi. will be auditioning first the 9.1 and 9.2.

That's right, 9.2 is a bit murky in bass parformance due to bigger bass driver that is not timbre-matched well with high-mid speakers drivers. 9.1 has better tonal balance divers. 9.1 sings well in music and video.

sir vic, hindi ba mas maliit yung 9.1 how would the 9.1 sound at higher volume? and how about the 9sr, would this be enough for a 25 to 30 sq. meter room along with the 9.1?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: torque on Aug 11, 2008 at 10:00 PM
this may sound too dumb a question but i'll ask it anyway, where do i connect my standard wires in my 9.1? i'm not gonna use the "bi-wire" method, just a simple connection.... it has HF + - and LF +-... thanks in advance :)
sidewinder,

Bro, I would recommend that you replace the "gold plates" with 16 or 18 gauge wires. I'm using 9.1 paired with onkyo tx-sr502. When I replaced the gold plates the highs did improved, mas dinig na ang kalising. Unexpectedly, I also heard improvements on the low freq. Mas bumilog ang bass, unlike before na a bit muddy ang sound. Try to experiment lang replace the gold plates, bi-wire, bi-amp etc...

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: natosan on Aug 11, 2008 at 11:07 PM
salamat sir for the fyi. will be auditioning first the 9.1 and 9.2.
sir vic, hindi ba mas maliit yung 9.1 how would the 9.1 sound at higher volume? and how about the 9sr, would this be enough for a 25 to 30 sq. meter room along with the 9.1?
  at 25 to 30sqm, u should go for 9.6. Masyado maliit ang 9.1. My room is abt 12x 16ft and medyo tama lang ang 9.1. Now thinking of auditioning 9.5 pa nga.   
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jetstar on Aug 12, 2008 at 02:23 AM
Wharfedale @ CES 2008 With 9.1 75th Anniversary Edition:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOC_9NzWgmE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOC_9NzWgmE)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: John E. on Aug 12, 2008 at 04:23 AM
Contemplating on getting the Cm too.  It's one big speaker ;D  Might have challenges space wise. 

im currently using a 9CM. space wise it fits perfectly on my rack and aesthetically it looks great!

(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh282/juric_0404/setup2.jpg)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mercury724 on Aug 12, 2008 at 09:43 AM
  at 25 to 30sqm, u should go for 9.6. Masyado maliit ang 9.1. My room is abt 12x 16ft and medyo tama lang ang 9.1. Now thinking of auditioning 9.5 pa nga.   
pero mukhang masyadong malaki na yung mga 9.4,9.5,9.6 my main problem is not much space to put the FS.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: E-reply on Aug 12, 2008 at 10:08 AM
sir vic, hindi ba mas maliit yung 9.1 how would the 9.1 sound at higher volume? and how about the 9sr, would this be enough for a 25 to 30 sq. meter room along with the 9.1?

Before you decide which speaker is best for the room, you need to determine 2 things: 1. How big is the throwing distance of the speakers you are considering to buy. 2. What is your listening preference for the speakers--for music and movie or purely for movie?

You have a big room of 30sq meters. Is this a dedicated home-theater room where speakers should be big enough to fill up the room? If this is so, then you have no other option but to get a bigger set-up speakers like 9.6 front, 9cm center, a pair 9DFS (side or rear) surround, an option (if you are considering 7.1 set-up) of another pair 9DFS for rear-surround, and a powered sub of 12 to 15".

With the above set-up, a pair of front floorstanding speakers becomes fitting for both movie and music. It can excel music because when the receiver is switch to either stereo or pure audio mode--when subwoofer and other surround speakers were cut-off--, the 9.6 becomes a dedicated pair of stereo speaker system that can handle the whole spectrum of musical frequency.

If, however, you have a big room, but your home-theater listening area is in one corner, you may opt for a smaller set-up: a pair of front bookshelf either 9.2 or 9.1, 9cs center, 9dfs surround, and a powered sub of either 8 or 10". Unless your preference is to listen to whole spectrum of music, you don't need a floorstanding to fill in your small corner of movie watching.

So you see, the decision of buying the right speakers should be based on your requirement and purpose. Added to this is your taste. If your taste is just as good as mine, you will find 9.1 to sound better than 9.2. 9.1 sounds more detail and transparent; it sounds also richer and warm. If you are into music and movie, you may want 9.1 to occupy your small space. 9.2 will be your last option for movie watching at a bigger space irregardless of better sound quality.

By the way, the 9SR is applicable for surround, though it can also be used as 5 units small satellite home-theater set-up. The 9SR is for home-theater use, not exciting for music.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Aug 12, 2008 at 04:12 PM
im currently using a 9CM. space wise it fits perfectly on my rack and aesthetically it looks great!

(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh282/juric_0404/setup2.jpg)

Nice rack you have ther John E.  That's exactly my problem.  I do not have one.  The center speaker I have now sits in front of the tv.  Just about enough so that I see the whole screen :-\
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: John E. on Aug 12, 2008 at 04:20 PM
check-out pinoy bazaar ctlim76/mr.wang (christian) is selling his sabre luna at 2.5k http://pinoybazaar.forumotion.com/a-v-bazaar-f4/sabre-a-v-rack-cheap-t1218.htm this retails at 4.5k sulit na sulit na and sakto sa 9cm  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Aug 12, 2008 at 04:26 PM
Thanks for the help JohnE.  Appreciate it! ;D

Cheers,

Black
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: natosan on Aug 12, 2008 at 06:06 PM
pero mukhang masyadong malaki na yung mga 9.4,9.5,9.6 my main problem is not much space to put the FS.

where do you intend to place your bookshelf speakers? i was planning to buy speakers stands but then i realized that it will occupy the same amount of space as FS so I plan to audition FS to see if my room is big enough without making the FS sound boomy.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mercury724 on Aug 13, 2008 at 01:11 AM
where do you intend to place your bookshelf speakers? i was planning to buy speakers stands but then i realized that it will occupy the same amount of space as FS so I plan to audition FS to see if my room is big enough without making the FS sound boomy.
be putting it in my masterbedroom, sabagay i'm planning to use a speaker stand rin. hmm...you have a good point natosan, same space rin naman ang ma-gagamit kung FS except if i wall mount it. ;) well, i guess might as well audition the fs. :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: natosan on Aug 13, 2008 at 09:39 AM
be putting it in my masterbedroom, sabagay i'm planning to use a speaker stand rin. hmm...you have a good point natosan, same space rin naman ang ma-gagamit kung FS except if i wall mount it. ;) well, i guess might as well audition the fs. :D

my set-up is also in our bedroom  . hirap mag wall mount ng front speakers. 1) holes in the wall 2) no flexibility sa speaker positioning; if you get it wrong = more holes in the wall.  :(

i'll be replacing my avr first and see if i'm satisfied my the full potential of the 9.1. otherwise, i'm upgrading to 9.5.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dyerds on Aug 13, 2008 at 11:13 AM
my set-up is also in our bedroom  . hirap mag wall mount ng front speakers. 1) holes in the wall 2) no flexibility sa speaker positioning; if you get it wrong = more holes in the wall.  :(

Hahaha! Totoo yan! Kahit yung karpintero namin nahirapan ikabit yung DFS eh.   ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mercury724 on Aug 13, 2008 at 11:29 AM
my set-up is also in our bedroom  . hirap mag wall mount ng front speakers. 1) holes in the wall 2) no flexibility sa speaker positioning; if you get it wrong = more holes in the wall.  :(

i'll be replacing my avr first and see if i'm satisfied my the full potential of the 9.1. otherwise, i'm upgrading to 9.5.
medyo malayo ang price ng 9.4 & 9.5, ok rin ba ang 9.4? well, sa surrounds i cant decide rin dfs? or 9.1? or 9sr? would'nt want holes all over the wall. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Aug 13, 2008 at 12:53 PM
9.1 na ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: natosan on Aug 13, 2008 at 01:16 PM
medyo malayo ang price ng 9.4 & 9.5, ok rin ba ang 9.4? well, sa surrounds i cant decide rin dfs? or 9.1? or 9sr? would'nt want holes all over the wall. ;D
i auditioned the 9.4 before, medyo boomy. or baka dahil sa room acoustics, kaya ganun. sa surrounds , i'm using dfs. comparing against my onkyo fixed surround, mas gusto ko talaga ang dipole (dfs). konti lang price diff vs sr. kaya lang wall mount talaga. no experience using 9.1 as surrounds since i don't have the space. i heard you don't need the low frequencies that much for your surrounds.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sidewinder on Aug 19, 2008 at 10:23 PM
guys need your expert advise, is it ok to pair a a WH2 center sa 9.1 fronts ko? thanks in advance
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: natosan on Aug 20, 2008 at 12:34 AM
i auditioned the 9.4 before, medyo boomy. or baka dahil sa room acoustics, kaya ganun. sa surrounds , i'm using dfs. comparing against my onkyo fixed surround, mas gusto ko talaga ang dipole (dfs). konti lang price diff vs sr. kaya lang wall mount talaga. no experience using 9.1 as surrounds since i don't have the space. i heard you don't need the low frequencies that much for your surrounds.

When i auditioned 9.4, found it boomy too. Malayo na sa walls yun, boomy pa rin. Wanted to auditioned 9.5 but decide to save up the money to invest into a good sub tipo velo cht-10. Can vouch for the dfs as well. Malaki nga lang. Bigger than the 9.1.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Aug 20, 2008 at 12:53 AM
guys need your expert advise, is it ok to pair a a WH2 center sa 9.1 fronts ko? thanks in advance

No. 

If you already have a 9.1 pair, then it would be better to get a 9.CS for your center speaker.

It's advisable to get a center speaker from the same model and series to make sure that the set is voice-matched as closely as possible for sound field consistency. 

Otherwise, when the sound pans from left to right, the sound will change considerably as it moves from from left to center to right channel.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lrdcly on Aug 27, 2008 at 11:31 PM
guys, help naman.. la kasi ko time mag audition.

im planning to buy wharfe 9.5, 9cm and 9sr. ok ba to if paired with denon 1508?
il use it for movies and gaming and ill be placing it in my room (4x5m)
tia!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: E-reply on Aug 28, 2008 at 12:19 PM
guys, help naman.. la kasi ko time mag audition.

im planning to buy wharfe 9.5, 9cm and 9sr. ok ba to if paired with denon 1508?
il use it for movies and gaming and ill be placing it in my room (4x5m)
tia!

Denon AVR1508 is an entry level that complement well with Wharfedale. Wharfedale 9.5, 9cm and 9sr is just right, but if you want a more immerse surround, you may wish to avail dipole 9DFS. Dipole speakers take advantage of reflected sound to create a wider soundfield, and they provide greater speaker placement flexibility.

For further inquiry, visit Sights and Sounds 4th level Shangri-La Plaza. Or call 6341789 to 90, mobile 09175413491.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lrdcly on Aug 28, 2008 at 12:38 PM
Denon AVR1508 is an entry level that complement well with Wharfedale. Wharfedale 9.5, 9cm and 9sr is just right, but if you want a more immerse surround, you may wish to avail dipole 9DFS. Dipole speakers take advantage of reflected sound to create a wider soundfield, and they provide greater speaker placement flexibility.

For further inquiry, visit Sights and Sounds 4th level Shangri-La Plaza. Or call 6341789 to 90, mobile 09175413491.



ayos kung ganon! swak na swak sa budget..hehe
thank you sir..

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: natosan on Aug 28, 2008 at 01:38 PM
second the motion ako for 9dfs. tsaka minimal lang price difference vs 9sr...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mercury724 on Aug 31, 2008 at 10:20 PM
question lang, howcome parang hindi ko naririnig about wharfedale sw-150 subs dito sa pdvd? are these subs any good?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: milken on Aug 31, 2008 at 10:36 PM
question lang, howcome parang hindi ko naririnig about wharfedale sw-150 subs dito sa pdvd? are these subs any good?

I've auditioned it.  I don't like it.  There are other better sub out there but at a higher price.  But if you're on a very tight budget, pwede na sya.  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mercury724 on Aug 31, 2008 at 10:47 PM
I've auditioned it.  I don't like it.  There are other better sub out there but at a higher price.  But if you're on a very tight budget, pwede na sya.  :D
ic.. kaya pala wala ako nakitang discussions regarding this. pero meron review nito sa cnet, ok naman ang labas ng review pero there is one problem, medyo kulang sa lakas nga daw..thanks :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Aug 31, 2008 at 11:39 PM
question lang, howcome parang hindi ko naririnig about wharfedale sw-150 subs dito sa pdvd?

Mahina ang power, e.

OK lang siguro sa small room, paired with bookshelf fronts.  Mahina pag bigger rooms, and almost useless when paired with floorstanders such as the Diamond 9.5.

are these subs any good?

Well, depende kung ano ang criteria. 

Price is amazingly low.  They are realiable, use good materials, well-constructed and well-braced. 

Pero mahina ang tunog  :P.     
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shadowboxer on Sep 01, 2008 at 09:42 AM
Mahina ang power, e.

OK lang siguro sa small room, paired with bookshelf fronts.  Mahina pag bigger rooms, and almost useless when paired with floorstanders such as the Diamond 9.5.

Well, depende kung ano ang criteria. 

Price is amazingly low.  They are realiable, use good materials, well-constructed and well-braced. 

Pero mahina ang tunog  :P.     
thanks sir for the info... plan to buy a sub also was pondering over the wharfedale sw-150  though have'nt heared one in action yet.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mercury724 on Sep 01, 2008 at 11:12 AM
Mahina ang power, e.

OK lang siguro sa small room, paired with bookshelf fronts.  Mahina pag bigger rooms, and almost useless when paired with floorstanders such as the Diamond 9.5.

Well, depende kung ano ang criteria. 

Price is amazingly low.  They are realiable, use good materials, well-constructed and well-braced. 

Pero mahina ang tunog  :P.     
ic, well i guess ganun talaga kasi nga mura lang sya kaya siguro mahina. yung SW-200 naman sobra mahal nasa 20k na yung price nya. :P
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: seph1018 on Sep 01, 2008 at 09:28 PM
hey guys! have a question...I have a pair of 9.5s as fronts together with a 9CS center. Is it better to upgrade my center to a 9CM since it has the same woofer size as the 9.5s? Been contemplating on replacing the CS for the longest time but don't know if my setup would be better off with a CM.

TIA... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lrdcly on Sep 02, 2008 at 12:27 PM
sir seph, planning to buy 9.5 din.. ano pong receiver gamit mo? :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jpeg on Sep 03, 2008 at 02:04 PM
hey guys! have a question...I have a pair of 9.5s as fronts together with a 9CS center. Is it better to upgrade my center to a 9CM since it has the same woofer size as the 9.5s? Been contemplating on replacing the CS for the longest time but don't know if my setup would be better off with a CM.

TIA... ;D

The CM would match with the 9.6 and not the 9.5 cause it has the extra mid range speaker as the 9.6.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Sep 03, 2008 at 03:02 PM
what do you mean by extra mid range speaker of 9.6?



tia
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Sep 03, 2008 at 03:04 PM
would a yamaha 659 sufficient enough to power the 9.5s or an HK 245 would make these speakers sound better (mostly for HT use)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: natosan on Sep 04, 2008 at 03:27 PM
to mods, sorry kung medyo OT but eto kasi pinaka-active na wharfedale trade....

guys, comment naman kayo sa speakers na to...
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=84468.0

i've reserved it kasi until this saturday and would really appreciate if you anybody has owned/auditioned these speakers before. sulit na ba at 15T? compared to 9.5/9.6 which is better? may bago na actually evo2...

TIA!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blued888 on Sep 04, 2008 at 04:26 PM
what do you mean by extra mid range speaker of 9.6?

tia

May midrange driver/cone yung 9.6 in addition to the tweeter plus dual 8" bass drivers. Whereas yung 9.5, tweeter plus dual 6.5" bass drivers lang.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: milken on Sep 04, 2008 at 06:48 PM
hey guys! have a question...I have a pair of 9.5s as fronts together with a 9CS center. Is it better to upgrade my center to a 9CM since it has the same woofer size as the 9.5s? Been contemplating on replacing the CS for the longest time but don't know if my setup would be better off with a CM.

TIA... ;D

According to Wharfedale website, they recommend 9cm with 9.5 and 9.6.  As to which one is better, I suggest you audition 9cm and compare with 9cs.  I've only heard 9cm paired up with 9.5 so can't give a good advice about 9cs and 9.5.  By the way, why do you want to upgrade ba?  Because of woofer size lang?  Don't mind the size, if to your ears, okay na yung 9cs with 9.5, 'wag na upgrade.. It will save you some money pa.  Only upgrade if you find something wrong with 9cs. ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: seph1018 on Sep 05, 2008 at 07:34 PM
According to Wharfedale website, they recommend 9cm with 9.5 and 9.6.  As to which one is better, I suggest you audition 9cm and compare with 9cs.  I've only heard 9cm paired up with 9.5 so can't give a good advice about 9cs and 9.5.  By the way, why do you want to upgrade ba?  Because of woofer size lang?  Don't mind the size, if to your ears, okay na yung 9cs with 9.5, 'wag na upgrade.. It will save you some money pa.  Only upgrade if you find something wrong with 9cs. ;)

thanks for the suggestion bro milken...been a long time user of the CS/9.5 pair...nothing wrong with the combination. Just thought it would deliver better range, which is my concern. Now, mas okay ba DFS sa SR? ;D hahahaha
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: milken on Sep 05, 2008 at 08:13 PM
thanks for the suggestion bro milken...been a long time user of the CS/9.5 pair...nothing wrong with the combination. Just thought it would deliver better range, which is my concern. Now, mas okay ba DFS sa SR? ;D hahahaha

naku po. dyan nag-uumpisa ang SARS attack.  mas okay kaya yung ___ kaysa ____ ko.  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: seph1018 on Sep 10, 2008 at 12:31 PM
hahaha...ganun talaga...just need improvement for my surrounds.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Toslink on Sep 12, 2008 at 12:32 AM
hey guys! have a question...I have a pair of 9.5s as fronts together with a 9CS center. Is it better to upgrade my center to a 9CM since it has the same woofer size as the 9.5s? Been contemplating on replacing the CS for the longest time but don't know if my setup would be better off with a CM.

TIA... ;D

sakin better ang 9cm coz ganyan setup ko  ;D 9.5/9cm, mas maganda ang vocals, mas clear/buo... if your using the auto setup of your avr mapapansin mo sa speaker volume (fronts & center) mas mahina ang volume ng 9cm coz its easier to drive (90db) than 9.5's (88db) btw i have yammy 659 and tried to balance it manually using sound level meter mas mahina talaga volume ng 9cm (-2db+/-) than 9.5's.

would a yamaha 659 sufficient enough to power the 9.5s or an HK 245 would make these speakers sound better (mostly for HT use)

Yup 659 has enough power to make your 9.5 sing!!  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mikevg08 on Sep 12, 2008 at 11:55 PM
sir ok po ba ang 9.5 sa hk145 which is 40w lang? im planning to setup my first ht, will use hk145 and diamond 9.5 and us audio us510, 2.1 setup muna ok po ba 2.1 setup muna sa hk145? TIA.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: milken on Sep 13, 2008 at 12:12 AM
sir ok po ba ang 9.5 sa hk145 which is 40w lang? im planning to setup my first ht, will use hk145 and diamond 9.5 and us audio us510, 2.1 setup muna ok po ba 2.1 setup muna sa hk145? TIA.

Pwede naman.  The specs of 9.5 say it can handle power between 30W to 150W.  But you'll not be tapping the full potential of 9.5 with such low powered receiver.  Nonetheless, 9.5 will sing with hk145.  Good luck!  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mikevg08 on Sep 13, 2008 at 12:52 AM
Pwede naman.  The specs of 9.5 say it can handle power between 30W to 150W.  But you'll not be tapping the full potential of 9.5 with such low powered receiver.  Nonetheless, 9.5 will sing with hk145.  Good luck!  :)

thanks @milken, anong avr po kaya perfect match sa 9.5 na worth 20k? and ok po ba combination ng 9.5 and usaudio us510 sub para sa 2.1 setup?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: milken on Sep 13, 2008 at 10:34 AM
thanks @milken, anong avr po kaya perfect match sa 9.5 na worth 20k? and ok po ba combination ng 9.5 and usaudio us510 sub para sa 2.1 setup?

Disclaimer:  I don't think there is such thing as a perfect match since audio is very subjective.  Some people may like a particular sound, some may not.  So it's best to shortlist AVRs then demo them with your speakers of choice.

A lot of Wharfedale users find Yamaha a good match for their speakers.  Some users are satisfied with HK+Wharfe combo.  Some AV stores recommend Marantz.  Check out nearby AV stores for model and pricing.  Better compare them yourself and share your experience here.  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lrdcly on Sep 13, 2008 at 08:34 PM
what about denon and wharfe combo? any feedbacks :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Sep 13, 2008 at 09:22 PM
Have been using this combo for about 2 years now. No complaints, and no plans to change ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mikevg08 on Sep 13, 2008 at 11:55 PM
mga sir tanong ko lang po kung ok lang ba na ipair yung 9.CC sa 9.5, thanks po!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lrdcly on Sep 14, 2008 at 04:52 PM
Have been using this combo for about 2 years now. No complaints, and no plans to change ;D

kaya na ba ng 1508 un 9.5?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Sep 15, 2008 at 05:25 PM
Pretty sure it can.  Not too sure of specs of 1508 ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: milken on Sep 15, 2008 at 06:53 PM
kaya na ba ng 1508 un 9.5?

just check the power rating of denon 1508 at denon website. basta kailangan ng 9.5 is bet 30W (min.) to 150W (max) [from Wharfedale website]. If your AVR of choice could deliver at least 30W per channel, oks na yun.  The higher the power the better to maximize the potential of the speakers. :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mikevg08 on Sep 18, 2008 at 06:52 PM
mga sir tanong ko lang po kung ok lang ba na ipair yung 9.CC sa 9.5, thanks po!

up ko lang po... thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: RXV on Sep 18, 2008 at 08:35 PM
up ko lang po... thanks!

Masyadong maliit yung 9CC. Minimum is 9CS para balanced.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mikevg08 on Sep 18, 2008 at 09:38 PM
Masyadong maliit yung 9CC. Minimum is 9CS para balanced.

thanks RXV  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lrdcly on Sep 19, 2008 at 08:40 AM
thanks guys!

im still thinking kung 1908 or hk245.. haays hirap mag decide ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Sep 19, 2008 at 09:21 AM
Audition,  audition, audition,

Then let the ears decide ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: E-reply on Sep 19, 2008 at 12:42 PM
thanks guys!

im still thinking kung 1908 or hk245.. haays hirap mag decide ???

We now have award winner Denon AVR1909 12 months at P36K. Visit Sights and Sounds 4th level Shangri-la Plaza.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: seph1018 on Sep 19, 2008 at 07:18 PM
wow...plugging! ;D nice AVR that Denon. Made affordable pa! ;)

Thanks for the info broToslink...I knew there'd be a difference if I upgrade to the CM. Too bad someone bought the one being sold a month ago in the FS thread.

Upgrade! Upgrade!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: natosan on Sep 21, 2008 at 09:37 PM
to the people considering buying brand new wharfedales, bili na kayo! may price increase na by Oct.   :'(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mikevg08 on Sep 21, 2008 at 11:10 PM
mga sirs tanong ko lang po kung ok lang bang ikabit yung wharfe 9.5 sa pioneer component ko na 100w/channel 6ohms impedance din? may speaker na kasi ako kaso wala pa akong avr just a pair of 9.5 pa lang... thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: juanch on Sep 22, 2008 at 05:24 PM
35% daw ang mark up ng Wharfes by October.  :'(

Daiym, di pa ako nakabili
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lrdcly on Sep 22, 2008 at 06:09 PM
aw! ang laki.. sana maka kuha na ko.. :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Sep 22, 2008 at 06:18 PM
Can Sights and Sounds or Theaterworks confirm this? :-\
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mikevg08 on Sep 22, 2008 at 07:23 PM
confirmed po pagtaas nila by October yung 9.5 magiging 13.8k na daw by oct. I got mine yesterday for 11.8k only.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mikevg08 on Sep 22, 2008 at 07:29 PM
aw! ang laki.. sana maka kuha na ko.. :D

@lrdcly

Nakabili ka na avr mo? inuna ko na 9.5 ko bago tumaas hehehe sunod ko avr and sub maybe nextweek, ganda ng tunog ng 9.5 oks na oks! kaya kuha ka na =)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: catgreg2k2 on Sep 22, 2008 at 08:46 PM
naku po laki ng itataas. plan to buy pa naman 9.6 sa december. aabutan pala ako ng price increase.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lrdcly on Sep 22, 2008 at 09:19 PM
@lrdcly

Nakabili ka na avr mo? inuna ko na 9.5 ko bago tumaas hehehe sunod ko avr and sub maybe nextweek, ganda ng tunog ng 9.5 oks na oks! kaya kuha ka na =)

hindi pa.. sa sunday ako kukuha. anong avr bibilhin mo? ok ba tunog, sulit ba? :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mikevg08 on Sep 22, 2008 at 10:33 PM
hindi pa.. sa sunday ako kukuha. anong avr bibilhin mo? ok ba tunog, sulit ba? :)

ganda ng tunog bro, pinag iisipan ko pa kung Harman or Yamaha kukunin kong avr, pero ganda ng tunog sa Yamaha nung 9.5 yun lang kasi avr nila nung bumili ako eh kaya di ko natest sa iba.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bongkers on Sep 22, 2008 at 11:36 PM
Hi guys im new into home audio im planning to get 9.1 and wh-2 for the center
what would be the best or perfect avr for this setup?
what cables do i need to use? ok na ba ang gauge 10 or 12 na cable? ill be using stinger for speaker wire


hope to hear form you guys soon thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lrdcly on Sep 23, 2008 at 08:04 AM
ganda ng tunog bro, pinag iisipan ko pa kung Harman or Yamaha kukunin kong avr, pero ganda ng tunog sa Yamaha nung 9.5 yun lang kasi avr nila nung bumili ako eh kaya di ko natest sa iba.

balita ko nga maganda din if paired with yamaha..  excited na ko..hehehe

nakapag tanong ka na ba ng yamaha avr? anong avr nila un nsa 15-25k?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: seph1018 on Sep 23, 2008 at 12:51 PM
lot of people say that a Yamaha AVR & Wharfe speaker are a good combi. Better have your ears do the confirming for this...

da*n, may price increase? planning to get SRs pa naman by November...mukhang mapapaaga. How much ba SRs sa market? Heads up naman kung san din...

TIA
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: E-reply on Sep 23, 2008 at 01:27 PM
Can Sights and Sounds or Theaterworks confirm this? :-\

That's right. There will be almost 20% increase for the prices of Wharfedale products starting October 2008.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lakambini on Sep 23, 2008 at 02:57 PM
sir,

how much are the evo2 series line of speakers (especially ev02-30)? tnx
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Sep 23, 2008 at 05:21 PM
That's right. There will be almost 20% increase for the prices of Wharfedale products starting October 2008.
Wayayayay Those planning to get some, may have to get them sooner :-\

Thanks Sir Vic for the reply!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: razzahsleb on Sep 23, 2008 at 06:35 PM
That's right. There will be almost 20% increase for the prices of Wharfedale products starting October 2008.


Lusob na po sa Theaterworks! Habang ang 9.6=17.5k pa lang. Got mine last Sep 14.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: BigBert-2 on Sep 24, 2008 at 02:28 PM

Latest news daw eh inurong na daw ng supplier ang increase. Could anyone confirm this.

 :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: natosan on Sep 24, 2008 at 04:23 PM
hope this is true... 9.5 is still in my shortlist  ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Sep 24, 2008 at 04:36 PM
when will they come out with the diamond series 10? its been a while since they updated their diamond series...could it be happening soon with the pending increase in prices...

hmmmm...have'nt read anything on a possible series 10 and i cant seen to access their wharfedale.co.uk website
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: natosan on Sep 24, 2008 at 05:11 PM
don't see the diamond 10 series coming out soon. otherwise, they will lower not increase the price of the diamond 9 to deplete the inventory. tsaka bago pa yung diamond 9 ayoko magka-SARS agad...

my 2 centavos... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mikevg08 on Sep 24, 2008 at 05:12 PM
balita ko nga maganda din if paired with yamaha..  excited na ko..hehehe

nakapag tanong ka na ba ng yamaha avr? anong avr nila un nsa 15-25k?

wala ako makuha yamaha avr ngayon eh puro denon and hk yung available =(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oweidah on Sep 24, 2008 at 05:45 PM
when will they come out with the diamond series 10? its been a while since they updated their diamond series...could it be happening soon with the pending increase in prices...

hmmmm...have'nt read anything on a possible series 10 and i cant seen to access their wharfedale.co.uk website
don't see the diamond 10 series coming out soon. otherwise, they will lower not increase the price of the diamond 9 to deplete the inventory. tsaka bago pa yung diamond 9 ayoko magka-SARS agad...

my 2 centavos... ;D



i thinks its hard for wharfedale to top the diamond 9's. pag maglabas ng diamond10 at hindi mag-click,  9's pa rin ang hanap-hanapin. sana maglabas na lang ng diamond9SE (special edition) "mundorfed", better internal wiring, & better wood, etc - for diamond9 collectors ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: milken on Sep 24, 2008 at 06:25 PM
I wouldn't consider trading 9 series to the 10 series as an upgrade since same entry level lang sila.  Kung upgrade lang pag-uusapan, go for P25T and up speakers.. that's an upgrade.   :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Sep 26, 2008 at 11:25 AM
Hi guys im new into home audio im planning to get 9.1 and wh-2 for the center
what would be the best or perfect avr for this setup?
what cables do i need to use? ok na ba ang gauge 10 or 12 na cable? ill be using stinger for speaker wire


hope to hear form you guys soon thanks!

audition yamaha and hk receivers.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mikevg08 on Sep 26, 2008 at 12:26 PM
mga bro may naka try na ba dito ipair diamond 9.5 sa Marantz avr? thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Sep 26, 2008 at 01:59 PM
tuloy ba price increase ng diamond 9s???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: natosan on Sep 27, 2008 at 01:01 PM
which FS is better for HT, Wharfedale 9 or Mission MV series?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: defjam on Sep 28, 2008 at 09:51 AM
^ depende siguro sa receiver mo yan bro ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lrdcly on Sep 28, 2008 at 11:24 PM
got my 9.5 kanina.. danda ng tunog  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mikevg08 on Sep 28, 2008 at 11:32 PM
got my 9.5 kanina.. danda ng tunog  ;D

congtraz bro! ano sub woofer gamit mo? and magkano kuha mo sa 1508?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lrdcly on Sep 29, 2008 at 07:41 AM
wala pa kong sub.. 18.5k un 1508. dapat sana 1908 kaso wala na daw.. eh sobrang lampas naman sa budget un 2808! ;D pero ok din naman tunog sa 1508.. nabibitin lang ako sa bass.. ;D dapat tlga my sub
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mikevg08 on Sep 29, 2008 at 07:01 PM
wala pa kong sub.. 18.5k un 1508. dapat sana 1908 kaso wala na daw.. eh sobrang lampas naman sa budget un 2808! ;D pero ok din naman tunog sa 1508.. nabibitin lang ako sa bass.. ;D dapat tlga my sub

galing ako sa theaterworks pioneer kanina bumili ako 9.cs nakita ko yung 1508 pero bakit 31k yung price dun sa store nila?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lrdcly on Sep 29, 2008 at 08:40 PM
baka iba un.. pero nung una 21k un binigay sakin na price. sabi ko lang sabi ni sir jeff 18.5k daw.. ayun pumayag.hehe ;D
nakita mo un 2808? danda noh? pa ot lang.. ano ba magandang sub? un mura lang. :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mikevg08 on Sep 29, 2008 at 09:19 PM
baka iba un.. pero nung una 21k un binigay sakin na price. sabi ko lang sabi ni sir jeff 18.5k daw.. ayun pumayag.hehe ;D
nakita mo un 2808? danda noh? pa ot lang.. ano ba magandang sub? un mura lang. :D

yung suggestion ni sir Jeff sakin US Audio 510 (10") 6k yung price na binigay nya sakin pero kanina nakita ko US Audio 508 (8") eh 6k din  :-\ yun yung naka kabit sa denon + wharf setup nila dun.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mikevg08 on Sep 29, 2008 at 09:36 PM
bro post mo na setup mo sa HT gallery  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lrdcly on Sep 30, 2008 at 07:30 PM
yung suggestion ni sir Jeff sakin US Audio 510 (10") 6k yung price na binigay nya sakin pero kanina nakita ko US Audio 508 (8") eh 6k din  :-\ yun yung naka kabit sa denon + wharf setup nila dun.

508 pala un naka set up don? pede na sakin un ganon tunog. pero siguro mas maganda un 510?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mikevg08 on Sep 30, 2008 at 08:46 PM
yup 508 yung naka setup dun kasi dun tinest yung 9cs na binili ko eh, sabi sakin sa listening room mega mas tight daw bass ng 508 kesa sa 510 or 512 di ko lang kasi na audition yung 510 and 512 kaya di ko na compare difference kung totoo nga, wala pa rin ako sub eh kaya baka yung 508 din kunin ko.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Rawhide on Oct 04, 2008 at 07:49 PM
Confirmed ung price increase ng Wharfedales. Was lucky enough to get my 9.5 and 9CS just before the prices went up. The new pricelist was actually already there. Around 35% nga ang tinaas.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mikevg08 on Oct 04, 2008 at 08:03 PM
sa theaterworks po di daw magtataas pero wala na daw discounts on cash payments.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mikevg08 on Oct 07, 2008 at 11:02 AM
mga sirs pwede na po bang gawing surrounds yung wharfe wh2 with 9.5 fronts and 9.cs? o kaylangan yung 9.dfs talaga? TIA :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ericag_ph on Oct 09, 2008 at 05:28 PM
pwede.
more important to match the fronts.

I used to use BOSE speakers as rear surrounds before getting a 8.dfs
Hardly can tell the difference really...specially when all you hear are explosions...
and only a few movies really make the rear surrounds shine (check another thread on this).

mga sirs pwede na po bang gawing surrounds yung wharfe wh2 with 9.5 fronts and 9.cs? o kaylangan yung 9.dfs talaga? TIA :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bongkers on Oct 09, 2008 at 10:02 PM
how much for 9.4 and 9.5? updated price po sana thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mikevg08 on Oct 09, 2008 at 11:34 PM
pwede.
more important to match the fronts.

I used to use BOSE speakers as rear surrounds before getting a 8.dfs
Hardly can tell the difference really...specially when all you hear are explosions...
and only a few movies really make the rear surrounds shine (check another thread on this).


thank you sir eric :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: E-reply on Oct 10, 2008 at 11:40 AM
how much for 9.4 and 9.5? updated price po sana thanks.

New prices at 12 months are:
9.4 P10700.
9.5 P13800.

Visit Sights and Sounds 4th level Shangrila Plaza for audition. Look for Jun, Paul or Arnold for assistance.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: E-reply on Oct 10, 2008 at 04:18 PM
Here are the final prices of Wharfedale for 12 months 0% interest:

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/ereply/Wharfe.jpg)

Available at Sights and Sounds 4th level Shangri-La Plaza. For further info, call 6341789 to 90 or mobile 09175413491.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Oct 10, 2008 at 06:43 PM
is cherry finish available?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bongkers on Oct 10, 2008 at 11:54 PM
thanks for price list, btw no more discount on cash payments?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: E-reply on Oct 11, 2008 at 01:59 PM
thanks for price list, btw no more discount on cash payments?

Less 10% for cash payment.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: E-reply on Oct 11, 2008 at 02:01 PM
is cherry finish available?

Cherry finished is available, but on order basis.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bongkers on Oct 12, 2008 at 01:21 AM
got my 9.5 awhile ago can wait for tues to be delivered. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lakambini on Oct 15, 2008 at 02:29 PM
gentelmen,

what is the better speaker for 2-channel music listening, 9.5 or 9.6?

tnx
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: --Streetlegal-- on Oct 15, 2008 at 04:05 PM
mga sirs pwede na po bang gawing surrounds yung wharfe wh2 with 9.5 fronts and 9.cs? o kaylangan yung 9.dfs talaga? TIA :)

I have the same dilemma before sir, just wanna share with you, here's my existing set-up
- 9.4 as fronts, 9cs as center, and wh2 surround and center as back surround, i'm satisfied, no plans of upgrading, swak sa budget and even sa quality, ang plan ko lang is to upgrade to plasma or lcd tv, since i'm using a 29inch flat tv

hope this helps you, even in a small way
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Oct 16, 2008 at 08:08 PM
gentelmen,

what is the better speaker for 2-channel music listening, 9.5 or 9.6?

tnx


Have had 9.6's for a time.  Really happy with them and no plans to upgrade. yet.... ;D

http://www.audioreview.com/cat/speakers/floorstanding-speakers/wharfedale/diamond-9-6/PRD_336376_1594crx.aspx
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Oct 16, 2008 at 08:17 PM
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee211/braggy13/diamond.jpg)

Kuha na, kuha na! Love these speakers ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: riven319 on Oct 16, 2008 at 08:58 PM
ive had my 9.6 along with the 9cm center for around a month already.  I do admit that when they came out of the box they sound like crap and made me realize that it is possible I made the wrong choice of speakers and I'm gonna be stuck with them..  after playing with it overnight there was already an improvement and after a week it sounded more than what I expected of them.....  :)  For my taste these are perfect!  Although, I did take interest in the 9.5 initially but got curious of the midrange dome of the 9.6 :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lakambini on Oct 17, 2008 at 10:09 AM
sir,

actually had difficulty choosing between the two.  i like the 9.5 because it seems a lot easier to drive than the 9.6 (6.5" vs 8" woofers).  However, am also curious about the 9.6's dom mid-range, and according to some reviews it makes music sounds sweeter.  Price-wise i would definitely go with the 9.5.

And if i should go for the 9.6 will it be able to drive by an onkyo 606?

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Oct 17, 2008 at 02:42 PM
how come i cant access the wharfedale wedsite...its been a while na



tska baket wala ng evo series available?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mikevg08 on Oct 17, 2008 at 02:54 PM
how come i cant access the wharfedale wedsite...its been a while na



tska baket wala ng evo series available?

bro ok naman yung website nila I just visited it http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/home.php  8)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Oct 17, 2008 at 04:50 PM
how come i cant access the wharfedale wedsite...its been a while na



tska baket wala ng evo series available?

works fine. maybe because wedsite? ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Oct 17, 2008 at 05:45 PM
hehehe...can you send me the link
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Oct 18, 2008 at 02:17 AM
There you go.  Hope you can access it :)

http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/home.php
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Oct 18, 2008 at 10:57 PM
hehehe...thanks!


i was able to access it na and was pleasantly surprised to see a walnut finish for the diamond series. even the cherry seems to be different (i like linear wood grain effect better than the circular one we have for the cherry finish). I wonder if these two new finishes are available locally.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Oct 19, 2008 at 05:38 PM
Try these numbers

6341789 Sights and Sounds (Shang Mall)
9013975 Theaterworks (Trnioma)

Good luck ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: skylark on Oct 21, 2008 at 02:40 PM
Mga Sir any review of 9.3
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: tonetagabaler on Nov 09, 2008 at 02:58 AM
mga sir.. patanung lang
pwede bang bi-amp yung 9.1? ??

Kase nabasa ko lang to mga sir..

Bi-amping - what it means
If you want to take things a stage further, bi-amping causes an even more significant improvement to the sound. Any speaker that can be bi-wired can also be bi-amped, but in this case it involves using one whole channel of amplification to drive each individual driver. So, in this configuration, you have a system with four channels of amplification - ie two stereo amplifiers - with each speaker having its tweeter driven by one channel, and its mid/bass driver by another.

takot ako baka masira speakers...
try ko sana yung bi-amping features ng onkyo 506
nakalagay kase sa manual pwede bi-amp yung front speakers using the
SURR BACK speakers terminals..
.. tnx
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mercury724 on Nov 09, 2008 at 10:43 PM
can anybody tell me how long would it take to break-in a wharfedale speaker? and how should it be break-in?
Tia
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: legalypogi on Nov 11, 2008 at 11:45 AM
newbie here first timer sa pag set up ng entry level ht just bought the hk 145 im planning to purchase the 9 diamond series sa katapusan im choosing between the 9.5 or 9.6 ano ba diffrence sa dalawa kakayanin po ba ng hk 145? sa center 9cm sa rear 9dfs at sa sub velodyne cht10r thnx

tia
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: rasoplast on Nov 11, 2008 at 02:08 PM
newbie here first timer sa pag set up ng entry level ht just bought the hk 145 im planning to purchase the 9 diamond series sa katapusan im choosing between the 9.5 or 9.6 ano ba diffrence sa dalawa kakayanin po ba ng hk 145? sa center 9cm sa rear 9dfs at sa sub velodyne cht10r thnx

tia

newbie here also and I think i'm going for this setup also (wharfedale + velo) but instead of the HK 145, i'm thinking about getting Yahama RX-V463 or HK AVR 245 or Onkyo TX-SR506. any advice you can give is very much appreciated.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: avshop on Nov 11, 2008 at 05:21 PM
newbie here first timer sa pag set up ng entry level ht just bought the hk 145 im planning to purchase the 9 diamond series sa katapusan im choosing between the 9.5 or 9.6 ano ba diffrence sa dalawa kakayanin po ba ng hk 145? sa center 9cm sa rear 9dfs at sa sub velodyne cht10r thnx

tia

the 9.5 has smaller drivers (6.5") so the it can't go as low as the 9.6. (8"). but this won't be much of an issue if you're using a sub.  but the 9.6 is easier to drive with a sensitivity of 90dB as compared to the 9.5 with a sensitivity of 88dB which might be an issue since you're using the entry level hk 145. might be better matched with the hk 245. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: avshop on Nov 11, 2008 at 05:25 PM
newbie here also and I think i'm going for this setup also (wharfedale + velo) but instead of the HK 145, i'm thinking about getting Yahama RX-V463 or HK AVR 245 or Onkyo TX-SR506. any advice you can give is very much appreciated.


the 9.5 has smaller drivers (6.5") so the it can't go as low as the 9.6. (8"). but this won't be much of an issue if you're using a sub.  but the 9.6 is easier to drive with a sensitivity of 90dB as compared to the 9.5 with a sensitivity of 88dB. so you'll need a stronger amp to drive the 9.5. but the hk 245 should be able to drive both with no problem. i can sell you the hk avr 245 for 26k if you're interested.  i can also offer good deals on the denon 1909, 2309 and 2809. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Nov 11, 2008 at 06:14 PM
can anybody tell me how long would it take to break-in a wharfedale speaker? and how should it be break-in?
Tia


My view is that no speaker needs any break-in procedure.

I bought my first stereo speakers in 1978.  They were 3-way sets with 12-inch bass-reflex woofers.  (I only mention this in the hope of enhancing my credibility ;D.)



My old post might help:

I don't believe in speaker break-in either. 

Speaker break-in affects woofers and subwoofers more than tweeters.

My advice is just to calibrate and use normally.  The speaker will break in normally without need for any special procedures.  After a while, when the sound changes as the parts become more flexible, just recalibrate.

Using special CDs to break in the speakers will just speed up the process of softening up the woofer's surround material.  After the speaker is broken in, the surround will not stop softening --- it will continue to deteriorate as long as the speaker is being used.

It's like a new pair of shoes.  You break in your new shoes by simply wearing them and using them normally.  After a few weeks, the shoes feel more comfortable because the flexing parts became softer.  But the shoes will continue softening as long as they are being used. 

A special break-in procedure for your shoes will speed up the process of making them more comfortable, but your shoes will also get old faster.

The same is true for speakers.  You can speed up the break-in process artificially, or just allow it to break in naturally during normal use. 

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mercury724 on Nov 11, 2008 at 08:21 PM

My view is that no speaker needs any break-in procedure.

I bought my first stereo speakers in 1978.  They were 3-way sets with 12-inch bass-reflex woofers.  (I only mention this in the hope of enhancing my credibility ;D.)



My old post might help:

thank you sir. I guess theres no real need for a break-in. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: rasoplast on Nov 12, 2008 at 11:22 AM
the 9.5 has smaller drivers (6.5") so the it can't go as low as the 9.6. (8"). but this won't be much of an issue if you're using a sub.  but the 9.6 is easier to drive with a sensitivity of 90dB as compared to the 9.5 with a sensitivity of 88dB. so you'll need a stronger amp to drive the 9.5. but the hk 245 should be able to drive both with no problem. i can sell you the hk avr 245 for 26k if you're interested.  i can also offer good deals on the denon 1909, 2309 and 2809. :)

thanks sir avshop, I'll visit your shop soon.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Nov 12, 2008 at 12:00 PM
mga sir.. patanung lang
pwede bang bi-amp yung 9.1? ??

Kase nabasa ko lang to mga sir..

Bi-amping - what it means
If you want to take things a stage further, bi-amping causes an even more significant improvement to the sound. Any speaker that can be bi-wired can also be bi-amped, but in this case it involves using one whole channel of amplification to drive each individual driver. So, in this configuration, you have a system with four channels of amplification - ie two stereo amplifiers - with each speaker having its tweeter driven by one channel, and its mid/bass driver by another.

takot ako baka masira speakers...
try ko sana yung bi-amping features ng onkyo 506
nakalagay kase sa manual pwede bi-amp yung front speakers using the
SURR BACK speakers terminals..
.. tnx



Hindi naman masisira yung speakers kasi bi-amp/bi-wire capable naman ang provided na terminals ng 9.1.  Ang mabigat na tanong lang e kung malaki nga ba ang improvement ng bi-amping.


Ang sagot ay may malaking improvement kung true bi-amping.  Kung hindi, parang bi-wiring lang ang effect.


1.  Passive Crossover:

Kung dalawa ang amp, pero amplified signal ang dumarating sa crossover, ang tawag diyan ay passive crossover.  Sayang lang ang power ng dobleng amp, kasi yung power para sa high and mid ay binawasan na ng crossover bago dumating sa high and mid speakers, at yung power para sa bass ay binawasan din ng crossover bago dumating sa bass speaker/s. 

Ang epekto, may bawas na ang power ng dalawang amp bago dumating sa speakers.     




2.  Active Crossover -- True Bi-Amping:


Kung dalawa ang amp, pero ang line signal ay dumadaan sa external crossover bago dumating sa amp, ang tawag diyan ay active crossover.

Yan ang true bi-amping, kasi yung filter ay nasa line-level signal.  Walang filter sa amplified signal.  Kaya walang bawas ang power na pupunta sa high and mid speakers, at wala ring bawas ang power na pupunta sa bass speakers.

Eto ang tamang connection:

(http://sound.westhost.com/biamp-f1.gif)


Ang problema mo ngayon, paano kang makakatiyak kung tama ba ang design at kung matching ba sa system mo ang external crossover na ikakabit mo?  Alam mo ang sensitivity rating ng 9.1, pero ano ang sensitivity ng bawa't isang driver sa loob?  Kailangan mo ba ng equipment para masukat ang mga frequencies?  Tatanggalin mo ba ang internal crossover ng 9.1 para maiwasan ang double filtering? 

Sakit lang ng ulo ang mga bi-amping na yan.  Ang advice ko, basta ikonekta mo na lang nang normal ang amp sa speaker, hindi ka pa tatanda nang maaga.   :D




===================================




Bi-Amping: Pleasure or Pain?
http://www.gcaudio.com/resources/howtos/biamping.html



Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: avshop on Nov 13, 2008 at 08:49 AM
you might want to take advantage of our wharfedale promo. :)

1 diamond 9cs
1 pair diamond 9.5
1 pair diamond dfs
1 sw-150

package price of 31k. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: legalypogi on Nov 15, 2008 at 11:43 PM
got my 9.1 rosewood waiting for the 9.5 magiging rear nalang sya hehe
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d70/legalypogi/PICT0753-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: avshop on Nov 16, 2008 at 12:38 AM
you might want to take advantage of our wharfedale promo. :)

1 diamond 9cs
1 pair diamond 9.5
1 pair diamond dfs
1 sw-150

package price of 31k. :)


30k pala. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: deuce on Nov 16, 2008 at 01:41 AM
30k pala. :)

How much is the sw-150 if bought separately?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Nov 16, 2008 at 01:17 PM
got my 9.1 rosewood waiting for the 9.5 magiging rear nalang sya hehe
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d70/legalypogi/PICT0753-1.jpg)

Move to Gallery na to...... :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Nov 16, 2008 at 01:19 PM
How much is the sw-150 if bought separately?

Thanks.
Hi Deuce,

May I suggest you look around for other brands.  Reviews of SW150 so-so.

Just my 2 cents ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: avshop on Nov 16, 2008 at 03:48 PM
How much is the sw-150 if bought separately?

Thanks.

used to be at 9k but can sell it now at 8.8k. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: deuce on Nov 16, 2008 at 07:57 PM
Hi Deuce,

May I suggest you look around for other brands.  Reviews of SW150 so-so.

Just my 2 cents ;)

Thanks, Blackie.
What would you suggest within that price range?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: deuce on Nov 16, 2008 at 08:01 PM
used to be at 9k but can sell it now at 8.8k. :)

Thanks, avshop.
I have an all-Wharfe HT and this just might complete it  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: moks on Nov 16, 2008 at 10:36 PM
if i were you i would look for a velodyne sub kahit na yung entry level nila yung VX-10 series II na sub. you're better off with that.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: avshop on Nov 16, 2008 at 10:57 PM
Thanks, avshop.
I have an all-Wharfe HT and this just might complete it  :)

just let me know. i try to keep my overhead low so that i can give good prices to my clients. all my items (jbl, infinity, wharfedale, klipsch, denon and harman kardon) are from the local distributor so warranty is not a problem. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Nov 17, 2008 at 08:11 AM
Thanks, Blackie.
What would you suggest within that price range?
NOt to sure how much it costs the SW150,

More of why I suggested you look for another brand is the reviews that I have read re: this subwoofer. A lot of members here are pretty pleased with thier USAudio's and DQ12's.  If you have a little more to spend there a re a lot of higher end models that you can choose from.  What I would  suggest is you audition. Audition, audition, audition ;)  Check also the buy and sell thread.  Got a lucky break there from another member, with the sub I am using now.  Have you heard of the Polk Audio PSW 110 and 125?  Great reviews and I'm guessing you won't have to spend as much. Will you use it for Audio or primarily HT? How big is your room? Lots of things to consider :D :D :D 
Hope this helps,

Good luck on the hunt :D

Blackie
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jojitv on Nov 17, 2008 at 09:36 AM
The SW150 is ok for small rooms and low volume listening. But if you watch movies at high volume, I would suggest you follow sir blackie's advice of looking elsewhere. You can try the Velo VX-10, I'm not sure about the price range though.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: E-reply on Nov 18, 2008 at 03:09 PM
Thanks, Blackie.
What would you suggest within that price range?

If you have a bigger room and want to have more feel of sub bass, you may opt for either Velodyne VX10 or Polk Audio PSW110.

You may want to audition these sub with the Wharfedale speakers, which are available at Sights and Sounds 4th level Shangri-La Plaza.  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Nov 19, 2008 at 01:16 PM
sir wala pa walnut?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: flak-jacket on Dec 01, 2008 at 07:06 PM
9.1s for the rear :D
(http://i34.tinypic.com/2z5njn4.jpg)

anong color ang 9.1 na ito?

btw, anong 2 channel integrated amp and CDP ang match with Wharfedale 9.1?

:)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blued888 on Dec 01, 2008 at 07:10 PM
got my 9.1 rosewood waiting for the 9.5 magiging rear nalang sya hehe
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d70/legalypogi/PICT0753-1.jpg)

saan nabili yung speaker stand mo and gaano siya kataas? thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: legalypogi on Dec 02, 2008 at 07:04 AM
sight and sounds shangrila 24 inches 2.5k
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: otepsy on Dec 03, 2008 at 11:33 AM
ok lan ba ang HK AVR 135 sa 9CS and 9.5?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: skylynx888 on Dec 03, 2008 at 11:53 AM
anong color ang 9.1 na ito?
its cherry colored sir  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 03, 2008 at 03:10 PM
anong color ang 9.1 na ito?

btw, anong 2 channel integrated amp and CDP ang match with Wharfedale 9.1?

:)

nad or rotel amps/cdp will do...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 03, 2008 at 04:27 PM
nad or rotel amps/cdp will do...

eh yun st70?  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oyie_delapaz on Dec 03, 2008 at 08:38 PM
Mga sirs, meron ba repair center ang wharf dito sa Pinas where I can have my active sub (wharf) fixed?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: avshop on Dec 04, 2008 at 12:35 AM
Mga sirs, meron ba repair center ang wharf dito sa Pinas where I can have my active sub (wharf) fixed?

Thanks.

let me check with the distributor. what's wrong with the sub?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Dec 04, 2008 at 02:56 PM
wala pa rin ba yung walnut color?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 04, 2008 at 03:07 PM
eh yun st70?  ;D ;D ;D


 ::) ::) ::)

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: keldomingo77 on Dec 05, 2008 at 03:22 PM
Hello po, im a newbie to HT..pardon me for this question, What will happen if i used wharfedale Diamond 9 speakers to an HTIB (samsung HTZ210K) ...im planning to go separates but kapos pa sa budget, i recently bought an LCD TV and an HTIB..kaya baka bili muna wharfedale speakers then ipon para sa new receiver...Tnx in advance
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Dec 05, 2008 at 04:02 PM
Hi Kel,

Not familiar with specs of the HTIB, but I am assuming this is where your speakers are connected tot he back of your DVD player too right?  Maybe you would like to familiarize yourself with the specs of the player? What kind of Diamonds are you planning on getting? I think that you will not be able to maximize the potential of your speakers if it is not a dedicated receiver that drives them. (Not even sure if they will work at all :D)  Why don't you save up for an entry level receiver? There are a lot of good deals on second hand receivers at the Buy and Sell forum of Pinoydvd as well.  Same goes for the speakers.  Since you just recently got the new TV and HTIB, why don't you maximize that first, while saving up for better gear.  Believe me there will always be room for tweaks and upgrades in the future.

Cheers and Hope this helps,

Black :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: keldomingo77 on Dec 05, 2008 at 05:27 PM
Thanks Black...you're probably right, i will just maximize my htib for the moment while saving for a dedicated receiver and speakers...like many of the members here i was affected by the itch to upgrade right away since i bought my small HT gears and once i saw other members HT set ups here ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Dec 06, 2008 at 01:41 AM
Rest assured that if and when you decide to take that bigger step,


There will be members more than willing to help out here ;D

Cheers!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: avshop on Dec 10, 2008 at 05:57 PM
have good deals on the wharfedale diamond 9 series. pm me if interested. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oneirogmophobic on Dec 12, 2008 at 04:26 PM
Hi everybody,

I just finished setting my first ht.  I have the denon 1909 paired with 9.1, 9cs and 9dfs.  Hope you could help me some issues.  First is that after a week of tweaking around with the system, I noticed that whenever i reach high volume levels, like -10 to -7db, i sometimes hear a crackling sound with the 9.1s.  is this caused by the source, the receiver's processing or is the speaker busted in some way?

 I have tried dvds and cds, and the crackling sound (its not that loud but its perceptible) occurs everytime i crank up the volume particularly when it reaches the aforesaid level, although the crackling is just intermittent nakaka oc pa rin.  Parang may pumutok pumutok tas nawawala then it comes back everytime you crank it up more then when I turn down the volume nawawala naman and to my inexperienced ears the sound quality and detail again becomes normal.  I really never watch movies or listen to music at this level, but the thought that there is something wrong with the speakers bothers me not to mention that i can still have it replaced under its warranty. 

The thing is that the crackling sound is not consistently there, paminsan naririnig mo paminsan hindi even if it reaches the said volume level. parang sinusumpong lang. Pag normal volume naman (what i mean is its loud but not harshly loud) the sound quality is always ok, the problem only sometimes sometimes and not everytime it hits the said volume level. 

Please give me your thoughts and possible solutions to this problem. appreciate it greatly.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blued888 on Dec 12, 2008 at 04:31 PM
Hi everybody,

I just finished setting my first ht.  I have the denon 1909 paired with 9.1, 9cs and 9dfs.  Hope you could help me some issues.  First is that after a week of tweaking around with the system, I noticed that whenever i reach high volume levels, like -10 to -7db, i sometimes hear a crackling sound with the 9.1s.  is this caused by the source, the receiver's processing or is the speaker busted in some way?

 I have tried dvds and cds, and the crackling sound (its not that loud but its perceptible) occurs everytime i crank up the volume particularly when it reaches the aforesaid level, although the crackling is just intermittent nakaka oc pa rin.  Parang may pumutok pumutok tas nawawala then it comes back everytime you crank it up more then when I turn down the volume nawawala naman and to my inexperienced ears the sound quality and detail again becomes normal.  I really never watch movies or listen to music at this level, but the thought that there is something wrong with the speakers bothers me not to mention that i can still have it replaced under its warranty. 

The thing is that the crackling sound is not consistently there, paminsan naririnig mo paminsan hindi even if it reaches the said volume level. parang sinusumpong lang. Pag normal volume naman (what i mean is its loud but not harshly loud) the sound quality is always ok, the problem only sometimes sometimes and not everytime it hits the said volume level. 

Please give me your thoughts and possible solutions to this problem. appreciate it greatly.

Umaabot ka na ata sa clipping regions ng amplifier mo, ibig sabihin kinakapos na ng power at the required volume levels. Don't do that often because it will kill your speaker. You may hear it sometimes, and sometimes no, this is because audio is very dynamic. I tried monitoring how much power goes into a speaker and the meter constantly flickers.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Dec 12, 2008 at 06:34 PM
Hi everybody,

I just finished setting my first ht.  I have the denon 1909 paired with 9.1, 9cs and 9dfs.  Hope you could help me some issues.  First is that after a week of tweaking around with the system, I noticed that whenever i reach high volume levels, like -10 to -7db, i sometimes hear a crackling sound with the 9.1s.  is this caused by the source, the receiver's processing or is the speaker busted in some way?

 I have tried dvds and cds, and the crackling sound (its not that loud but its perceptible) occurs everytime i crank up the volume particularly when it reaches the aforesaid level, although the crackling is just intermittent nakaka oc pa rin.  Parang may pumutok pumutok tas nawawala then it comes back everytime you crank it up more then when I turn down the volume nawawala naman and to my inexperienced ears the sound quality and detail again becomes normal.  I really never watch movies or listen to music at this level, but the thought that there is something wrong with the speakers bothers me not to mention that i can still have it replaced under its warranty. 

The thing is that the crackling sound is not consistently there, paminsan naririnig mo paminsan hindi even if it reaches the said volume level. parang sinusumpong lang. Pag normal volume naman (what i mean is its loud but not harshly loud) the sound quality is always ok, the problem only sometimes sometimes and not everytime it hits the said volume level. 

Please give me your thoughts and possible solutions to this problem. appreciate it greatly.


Was just wondering how the calibration on your sysytem was made.  Who did it? What equipment was used? was it a manual calibration?  references? calibration discs?  It does seem that your speakers are clipping, but it is quite odd since you have a high power receiver and it is just the 9.1 fo the fronts?  the 1909 should be more than capable than driving those (understatement in fact)  have you observed your power light blinking at any time? then experienced a sudden shut off? how are your speaker wires terminated? how are they  inserted at the back of the receiver? into the speakers? my impression based on your description is that your speakers are working too hard when in fact they shouldn't :-\ I wouldn't bring the volume level that loud if you continue to experience this. Yes, your precious gear could bet damaged.

Please continue to give feedback as I am sure those more knowledgeable will be able to help you further ;)

Cheers and Goodluck on this challenge of yours.

Blackie
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oneirogmophobic on Dec 12, 2008 at 08:42 PM
ok, the replies were very informative. a few days after i finished connecting the wires, basically setting the gears up, there was one incident where after turning on the receiver, mataas na pala ung volume level, i was playing a cd then, dahil sa gulat, i turned the master volume knob without looking at the display, tas palakas pala, it was a split second when the receiver shut down. I dint even see what volume level it reached. I know that the 1909 automatically shut down as a protective mechanism. after that wala namang problema when i turned it on again.  thereafter, wala namang problema mainly because hindi ko rin talaga pinapaabot ung volume more than -20db.  I just realized this problem when i was tweaking the system, there were faint crackling sounds on one speaker. its intermittent but when it occurs, its annoying.

I used audyssey for calibration.  i also use banana plugs for the connection. Is it possible that the receiver got damaged because right now i see and hear no problems at relatively loud levels but when it reaches the harshly loud sounds, paminsan yan na ung crackling and it happens on one speaker lang.  Two weeks pa lang tong setup na to so m very new to this hobby. I have a to learn pa. Im grateful for all the help and thank you for all your advice.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jojitv on Dec 12, 2008 at 09:13 PM
ok, the replies were very informative. a few days after i finished connecting the wires, basically setting the gears up, there was one incident where after turning on the receiver, mataas na pala ung volume level, i was playing a cd then, dahil sa gulat, i turned the master volume knob without looking at the display, tas palakas pala, it was a split second when the receiver shut down. I dint even see what volume level it reached. I know that the 1909 automatically shut down as a protective mechanism. after that wala namang problema when i turned it on again.  thereafter, wala namang problema mainly because hindi ko rin talaga pinapaabot ung volume more than -20db.  I just realized this problem when i was tweaking the system, there were faint crackling sounds on one speaker. its intermittent but when it occurs, its annoying.

I used audyssey for calibration.  i also use banana plugs for the connection. Is it possible that the receiver got damaged because right now i see and hear no problems at relatively loud levels but when it reaches the harshly loud sounds, paminsan yan na ung crackling and it happens on one speaker lang.  Two weeks pa lang tong setup na to so m very new to this hobby. I have a to learn pa. Im grateful for all the help and thank you for all your advice.

Sir, try swapping the speakers to isolate wether the problem is the avr or the speaker
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oneirogmophobic on Dec 12, 2008 at 09:27 PM
thank you sir jojitv, blackie and blue. i tried playing it again at the problematic volume level, pero wala naman na.  its confusing. baka na ooc lang ako. hehe. 

last night i swapped the speakers and the crackling sound still occurs but with the same speaker. perhaps its the speaker. but if i may ask, what could be signs that the receiver is damaged? there arent any apparent or noticeable right now. by the way, what is the normal volume level? this is my first receiver so m wondering f its normal for it to reach at least -12 to -15 db to get loud but not harsh.  or does it vary with different models and calibrations? I dont have any basis to compare the receiver's performance before the shutting off incident and its state after. I havent yet fiddled that much the receiver before the unfortunate incident my only reference for comparison would be your experiences.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blued888 on Dec 12, 2008 at 09:39 PM
thank you sir jojitv, blackie and blue. i tried playing it again at the problematic volume level, pero wala naman na.  its confusing. baka na ooc lang ako. hehe. 

last night i swapped the speakers and the crackling sound still occurs but with the same speaker. perhaps its the speaker. but if i may ask, what could be signs that the receiver is damaged? there arent any apparent or noticeable right now. by the way, what is the normal volume level? this is my first receiver so m wondering f its normal for it to reach at least -12 to -15 db to get loud but not harsh.  or does it vary with different models and calibrations? I dont have any basis to compare the receiver's performance before the shutting off incident and its state after. I havent yet fiddled that much the receiver before the unfortunate incident my only reference for comparison would be your experiences.

I go up to -15dB during movies. This is on a Yammy 663. By then it's REALLY loud. I calibrated my system using an SPL meter with the volume at -10dB.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: r_Y_@_n on Dec 13, 2008 at 09:38 AM
for me, on my HK245, normal listening level for music is around -25dB. for DD movies, around -20dB to -22dB, but if its DTS, around -25dB.  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jpeg on Dec 16, 2008 at 11:12 PM
You could have your speaker checked if you changed the speaker and the crackling sound still came from the same speaker. When you powered up the amp's volume too much and it exceeded it's clipping point, the sudden surge of current could have damaged the speaker. I think it is possible you burned the tweeter. Am no tech though. So don't take my word for it. ;)

Jason
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oyie_delapaz on Dec 16, 2008 at 11:39 PM
let me check with the distributor. what's wrong with the sub?

sir avshop, nag hahumm kapag tinurn on kahit walang nakakabit na cable. pakitanong naman po kung san pwede ipagawa, para na rin sa mga wharfedale patronizers. maraming salamat!

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: avshop on Dec 16, 2008 at 11:49 PM
sir avshop, nag hahumm kapag tinurn on kahit walang nakakabit na cable. pakitanong naman po kung san pwede ipagawa, para na rin sa mga wharfedale patronizers. maraming salamat!



can you bring it to my showroom so that i can listen to it? so that i know how to explain it to the distributor.  so your sub works but may humm? :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oyie_delapaz on Dec 17, 2008 at 06:04 AM
Yup sir it's still working kaya lang may hum which is very annoying. Sige sir dalin ko sa showroom nyo kahit na mabigat, tingin na rin ako ng pwedeng ipalit sa 1801 na denon ko :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: oyie_delapaz on Dec 17, 2008 at 06:46 AM
Sir avshop, sorry but san ba yung showroom nyo? :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: avshop on Dec 17, 2008 at 10:08 AM
Sir avshop, sorry but san ba yung showroom nyo? :D

it's in quezon city. unit 205 amaremca bldg, 107a kalayaan avenue, diliman, quezon city.  let me know a day in advance when you go.  i only open when i have clients who want to audition the gear. that way i keep my overhead low and i'm able to offer better prices to my clients. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Oloap on Dec 17, 2008 at 11:25 AM
it's in quezon city. unit 205 amaremca bldg, 107a kalayaan avenue, diliman, quezon city.  let me know a day in advance when you go.  i only open when i have clients who want to audition the gear. that way i keep my overhead low and i'm able to offer better prices to my clients. :)

wow you're just a stonethrow away. can you pm me your products?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: avshop on Dec 17, 2008 at 10:09 PM
wow you're just a stonethrow away. can you pm me your products?

pm sent. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vhiinn on Dec 17, 2008 at 11:28 PM
sir thanks sa wharf 9.5 and CM mo po, pag kabit palang ok na, baka pag na break in mas lalabas un ganda, thanks again
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: avshop on Dec 18, 2008 at 10:04 AM
sir thanks sa wharf 9.5 and CM mo po, pag kabit palang ok na, baka pag na break in mas lalabas un ganda, thanks again

your welcome! enjoy! :) i have a sub waiting for you. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: avshop on Dec 18, 2008 at 01:04 PM
i have a brand new wharfedale diamond dfs selling for only 4k. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: johnrider999 on Dec 21, 2008 at 07:38 PM
Guys, i need your help. any body tried wharfe 9.5 with marantz integrated amp? I have a new christmas gift fr my dad, its Marantz PM6002 integrated amp.  Baka may nakatry na sa inyo. Thanks
Title: Wharf diamond 9.1 for fronts and surrounds?
Post by: dannielsimone on Dec 22, 2008 at 02:57 PM
I have a pretty small area for HT. I want direct firing bookshelves for surrounds.  I will be using it for 30% PS3 35% Movies and 35% music. Will have an onkyo 606 reciever.  With these facts in mind I  Had an interesting conversation recently with one of the highly respected traders on this board.  He mentioned that a really good 5.1 sounding system would be to use the Wharf award inning 9.1 for both fronts and surrounds coupled with the 9c center and sub Sw150.

Anyone ever use this combo before. 

Any comments would be deeply appreciated.
Title: Re: Wharf diamond 9.1 for fronts and surrounds?
Post by: blued888 on Dec 22, 2008 at 03:07 PM
I would suggest going a different route for the subwoofer since it might not give you enough punch. Maybe a Velodyne VX-10?
Title: Re: Wharf diamond 9.1 for fronts and surrounds?
Post by: dannielsimone on Dec 22, 2008 at 03:14 PM
I would suggest going a different route for the subwoofer since it might not give you enough punch. Maybe a Velodyne VX-10?

Ha...funny I said the same and was suggested by this trader a Polk Audio 10 inch  or a Velodyne VX10.  My reservation was that the wharf sub cost is about 8,700,  the polk audio about 10,500

and the veolodyne about 14,500.

Any comments on the use of the 9.1 for sronts and surrounds?

Title: Re: Wharf diamond 9.1 for fronts and surrounds?
Post by: -sniper- on Dec 22, 2008 at 04:52 PM
Ha...funny I said the same and was suggested by this trader a Polk Audio 10 inch  or a Velodyne VX10.  My reservation was that the wharf sub cost is about 8,700,  the polk audio about 10,500

and the veolodyne about 14,500.

Any comments on the use of the 9.1 for sronts and surrounds?


it is hard to make a definite stand on this. some enthisuasts would prefer this set-up (same brand and model for the fronts and surround), and i think nothing is wrong with that. but here are my thoughts on the matter:

surrounds are usually for effects and/or ambient sounds. thus, it need not be too loud. if you use the 9.1s for both fronts and surrounds, chances are, the "main sound" and the "effects" would have the same loudness.

imagine a choir...the fronts would be the melody part while the surrounds would be the second voice. you would not be able to appreciate and distinguish the melody from the second voice if they are played at the same level. the second voice is there to give additional effect to the song.

simply stated, the surrounds need not be as loud as your fronts. the surrounds should have a little more subtle/subdued sound. hence, the surrounds are usually smaller than the fronts.

just my opinion though.  ;)

Title: Re: Wharf diamond 9.1 for fronts and surrounds?
Post by: dannielsimone on Dec 22, 2008 at 05:46 PM
it is hard to make a definite stand on this. some enthisuasts would prefer this set-up (same brand and model for the fronts and surround), and i think nothing is wrong with that. but here are my thoughts on the matter:

surrounds are usually for effects and/or ambient sounds. thus, it need not be too loud. if you use the 9.1s for both fronts and surrounds, chances are, the "main sound" and the "effects" would have the same loudness.

imagine a choir...the fronts would be the melody part while the surrounds would be the second voice. you would not be able to appreciate and distinguish the melody from the second voice if they are played at the same level. the second voice is there to give additional effect to the song.

simply stated, the surrounds need not be as loud as your fronts. the surrounds should have a little more subtle/subdued sound. hence, the surrounds are usually smaller than the fronts.

just my opinion though.  ;)



I very much appreciate that comment and it is taken on board.  Having said that  from my experience the surrounds generally provide ambient sounds wich for the most part are background in general and when played at the same volume as the fronts do not overpower them by any means.  My dedicated HT had pardigm monitor 7 as fronts and atoms as surrounds.  They worked fairly well together but  I had turned up the volume on the surrounds dramatically for movies.  (but then again they were 7 feet behind my head). 

The more I think about it the more I like the idea of the 9.1 all around with a mega sub!


Title: Re: Wharf diamond 9.1 for fronts and surrounds?
Post by: blued888 on Dec 22, 2008 at 05:55 PM
simply stated, the surrounds need not be as loud as your fronts. the surrounds should have a little more subtle/subdued sound. hence, the surrounds are usually smaller than the fronts.

Having the same speakers for the front and surrounds is fine as long as you will properly calibrate your system via SPL meter or Audyssey/YPAO. It doesn't necessarily need to be smaller.

I use Infinity Primus P162 for surrounds which uses a 6.5" cone but they don't come out louder (even though the surrounds only 1.5ft from me and the fronts are 10ft away) since I calibrated my system.

The more I think about it the more I like the idea of the 9.1 all around with a mega sub!

It's actually a good idea to have the same speakers all around for a seamlessly identical sound stage, especially if a good chunk of your material would be music. Thing is, bookshelves that can be bought locally are always sold in pairs.

The center you are going for is I believe the... 9.CS?
Title: Re: Wharf diamond 9.1 for fronts and surrounds?
Post by: dannielsimone on Dec 22, 2008 at 06:10 PM
Having the same speakers for the front and surrounds is fine as long as you will properly calibrate your system via SPL meter or Audyssey/YPAO. It doesn't necessarily need to be smaller.

I use Infinity Primus P162 for surrounds which uses a 6.5" cone but they don't come out louder (even though the surrounds only 1.5ft from me and the fronts are 10ft away) since I calibrated my system.

It's actually a good idea to have the same speakers all around for a seamlessly identical sound stage, especially if a good chunk of your material would be music. Thing is, bookshelves that can be bought locally are always sold in pairs.

The center you are going for is I believe the... 9.CS?


You are correct.  the center is the 9.CS
Title: Re: Wharf diamond 9.1 for fronts and surrounds?
Post by: dannielsimone on Dec 22, 2008 at 06:19 PM
Having the same speakers for the front and surrounds is fine as long as you will properly calibrate your system via SPL meter or Audyssey/YPAO. It doesn't necessarily need to be smaller.

I use Infinity Primus P162 for surrounds which uses a 6.5" cone but they don't come out louder (even though the surrounds only 1.5ft from me and the fronts are 10ft away) since I calibrated my system.

It's actually a good idea to have the same speakers all around for a seamlessly identical sound stage, especially if a good chunk of your material would be music. Thing is, bookshelves that can be bought locally are always sold in pairs.

The center you are going for is I believe the... 9.CS?


Exactly...so I buy 2 pair of the 9.1, a center and a sub........

any issues?
Title: Re: Wharf diamond 9.1 for fronts and surrounds?
Post by: milken on Dec 22, 2008 at 07:22 PM

Exactly...so I buy 2 pair of the 9.1, a center and a sub........

any issues?

How about experiment with 3 pairs of 9.1 for 6.1 channel configuration?  I haven't tried it but if I have to build my HT system all over again, I would choose 3 pairs of bookshelves and a very mean sub.  I don't know how much 9cs costs but if the price is almost the same as 9.1, I would buy 9.1 instead of 9cs... that way I get more value for my money...2 speakers instead of 1. hehe  ;D

By the way, having 5 (or 6) identical bookshelves are ideal especially if you're into multichannel music.  Reason?  Seamless integration.  You are assured that your center, left and right speakers should sound the same (syempre same speakers e) plus you get a center back as a bonus.  Take note also that you'll only find movies encoded in 7.1 channels in BluRay only.  For DVDs, maximum is 6.1 discrete channels.  If it will sound good in multichannel music, there's no reason why it won't in HT as long as your system is properly calibrated as suggested by blued888.

Another justification for getting all identical 5 (or 6) speakers would be to mimic the speakers used in recording companies.  Sound engineers mix surround music using identical bookshelves (not floor standers mind you)...that way you're assured to hear the effects as the sound engineers intended when they mixed them.

Spend more for the subs.  Velodyne is a good brand.  Get one that would literally shake your house.  hehehe  ;D
Title: Re: Wharf diamond 9.1 for fronts and surrounds?
Post by: dannielsimone on Dec 22, 2008 at 07:59 PM
How about experiment with 3 pairs of 9.1 for 6.1 channel configuration?  I haven't tried it but if I have to build my HT system all over again, I would choose 3 pairs of bookshelves and a very mean sub.  I don't know how much 9cs costs but if the price is almost the same as 9.1, I would buy 9.1 instead of 9cs... that way I get more value for my money...2 speakers instead of 1. hehe  ;D

By the way, having 5 (or 6) identical bookshelves are ideal especially if you're into multichannel music.  Reason?  Seamless integration.  You are assured that your center, left and right speakers should sound the same (syempre same speakers e) plus you get a center back as a bonus.  Take note also that you'll only find movies encoded in 7.1 channels in BluRay only.  For DVDs, maximum is 6.1 discrete channels.  If it will sound good in multichannel music, there's no reason why it won't in HT as long as your system is properly calibrated as suggested by blued888.

Another justification for getting all identical 5 (or 6) speakers would be to mimic the speakers used in recording companies.  Sound engineers mix surround music using identical bookshelves (not floor standers mind you)...that way you're assured to hear the effects as the sound engineers intended when they mixed them.

Spend more for the subs.  Velodyne is a good brand.  Get one that would literally shake your house.  hehehe  ;D

 AS IT IS A 5.1
4 OF THE SAME, A DEDICATED SEPERATE CENTER, AND A SUB  WILL DO FOR ME.


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gob on Dec 26, 2008 at 12:06 AM
hi question lang po, can a Whar diamond 9.1 easily drive a 10-15 watt tube amp? plan to use it for audio. thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: E-reply on Dec 26, 2008 at 12:09 PM
hi question lang po, can a Whar diamond 9.1 easily drive a 10-15 watt tube amp? plan to use it for audio. thanks

9.1 has 89db sensitivity that can drive 10-15 watts amp. At Sights and Sounds, we have 10-15 watt tube amp to let you try out. Visit us for audition this speaker.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gob on Dec 26, 2008 at 11:46 PM
9.1 has 89db sensitivity that can drive 10-15 watts amp. At Sights and Sounds, we have 10-15 watt tube amp to let you try out. Visit us for audition this speaker.
thats nice to hear sir, will try to visit your place sir
Title: Re: Wharf diamond 9.1 for fronts and surrounds?
Post by: dannielsimone on Dec 31, 2008 at 01:12 PM

Exactly...so I buy 2 pair of the 9.1, a center and a sub........

any issues?

Some great reviews here ( 10 ) at Audioreview.com  and one of the reviews talks about the 9.1 as fronts and surrounds. 


http://www.audioreview.com/cat/speakers/bookshelf-speakers/wharfedale/diamond-9-1/PRD_336373_4290crx.aspx
Title: Re: Wharf diamond 9.1 for fronts and surrounds?
Post by: avshop on Dec 31, 2008 at 01:49 PM
Some great reviews here ( 10 ) at Audioreview.com  and one of the reviews talks about the 9.1 as fronts and surrounds. 


http://www.audioreview.com/cat/speakers/bookshelf-speakers/wharfedale/diamond-9-1/PRD_336373_4290crx.aspx

i suggest getting a good 10 or 12 inch sub.  i can give you very good deals on the infinity primus ps212, the polk  psw 110, polk psw 125, the polk dsw pro 500 and polk dsw pro 600. :)
Title: Re: Wharf diamond 9.1 for fronts and surrounds?
Post by: RJ Angeles on Dec 31, 2008 at 02:16 PM
hi sorry to butt in, but can somebody tell what model will i use for rear speakers if i will not use the 9.1? wharfedale 9.0?
Title: Re: Wharf diamond 9.1 for fronts and surrounds?
Post by: avshop on Jan 01, 2009 at 04:26 PM
hi sorry to butt in, but can somebody tell what model will i use for rear speakers if i will not use the 9.1? wharfedale 9.0?

you can use the wharfedale diamond dfs. they're really meant to be used for surrounds. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: xtrm_2001 on Jan 03, 2009 at 05:40 PM
pa OT guys  :D
magkano naba ngayon ang 9CS?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: rage1018 on Jan 04, 2009 at 12:20 AM
sir ask ko lang. just a newbie here. what's the main advantage ng 9.6 sa 9.5? halos lahat po kasi 9.5 ang gusto? sorry for the dumb question.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Jan 04, 2009 at 01:56 PM
Not a dumb question,

You can read more about Wharfedale and their products here.

http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/range.php?range_id=3

Cheers,


Blackie ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead000 on Jan 04, 2009 at 02:11 PM
sir ask ko lang. just a newbie here. what's the main advantage ng 9.6 sa 9.5? halos lahat po kasi 9.5 ang gusto? sorry for the dumb question.

really short answer:
dm9.5 = movies
dm9.6 = music

it doesn't follow though that one isn't good for the other. just that say, for music listening, i like how 9.6 renders the mid-range especially the vocal portion... but i like how the 9.5 handles the slam in movies. both are capable of delivering great bass, though they may deliver it differently. the 9.5 is fast, the 9.6 rolls. the 9.5 had been more popular though because of its great value.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: avshop on Jan 04, 2009 at 04:39 PM
really short answer:
dm9.5 = movies
dm9.6 = music

it doesn't follow though that one isn't good for the other. just that say, for music listening, i like how 9.6 renders the mid-range especially the vocal portion... but i like how the 9.5 handles the slam in movies. both are capable of delivering great bass, though they may deliver it differently. the 9.5 is fast, the 9.6 rolls. the 9.5 had been more popular though because of its great value.

the 9.6 has bigger drivers so it can hit lower frequencies than the 9.5. thus, for music it'll be better to get the 9.6. but for home theater use where you'll be using a sub, the 9.5 is more than enough since you'll be using a sub anyway. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: RJ Angeles on Jan 04, 2009 at 05:25 PM
hi any comments between the difference of 9.1 and 9.2?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Jan 04, 2009 at 05:31 PM
Have the 9.1's.  Great for Music And Movies.  Can't really comment on the 9.2's just heard that they are a bit "boomier" since they have bigger enclosures :)

Cheers :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: rage1018 on Jan 04, 2009 at 06:50 PM
thanks for the reply sir avshop, blackie and gearhead. appreciate it very much. Im still new to home theater and home audio stuff. kanina nag libot libot ako sa shang and went inside sa lahat ng audio shop na andun. I was able to audition a lot of speakers including the 9.5.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: milken on Jan 04, 2009 at 07:42 PM
hi any comments between the difference of 9.1 and 9.2?

In my opinion, 9.1 is Wharfedale's best speaker in the Diamond range, better than its floor standers.  It received lots of positive reviews and awards. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bayen on Jan 05, 2009 at 08:09 PM
hi guys,

id just like to get your inputs regarding wall mounting wharfdale series 9.

im planning to get the following

Front: 2 x Diamond 9.1
Rear: 2 x Diamond 9.SR
Center: 1 x Diamond 9.CS

maliit lang kasi ung living room ko and i cant use floor standers, my living room is going to be too cramped up.

i'd just like to get your inputs regarding this.

THanks

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead000 on Jan 05, 2009 at 08:55 PM

id just like to get your inputs regarding wall mounting wharfdale series 9.

im planning to get the following

Front: 2 x Diamond 9.1
Rear: 2 x Diamond 9.SR
Center: 1 x Diamond 9.CS


most here won't advise wall mounting your fronts. for the others, you can try audioworks tripod stand or wall mounts from 5th avenue, or perfect view wall mounts from ace/truvalue/etc.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Jan 06, 2009 at 08:38 AM
most here won't advise wall mounting your fronts. for the others, you can try audioworks tripod stand or wall mounts from 5th avenue, or perfect view wall mounts from ace/truvalue/etc.
+1 on Gearhead's comments :D

If you are cramped on space,

Why not look for a base that eats up the most minimal floor area?

Look at some of the setups of members here and see that more often than not if they aren't HTIB's, Bookshelfs (as you plan for your fronts) are usually set up more sturdily.

Cheers :D

Blackie
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Jan 06, 2009 at 08:58 AM
Hi again Bayen,

Here are some samples of 9.1's in action (Got them off the internet).  If you notice, all of them were used as fronts and were put on speaker stands, if not placed "solidly" on the cabinet.  Hope this helps.

(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee211/braggy13/mediahl3.jpg)

(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee211/braggy13/FRONT_TV_CEN_02-1.jpg)

(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee211/braggy13/Wharfedale_Diamond_9_1.jpg)
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee211/braggy13/Wh15.jpg)

Cheers,

Blackie :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 06, 2009 at 10:13 AM
kaya hindi ko mabenta 9.1 ko eh hehehe... dami pwede gawin sa speaker na yan...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Jan 06, 2009 at 10:40 AM
kaya hindi ko mabenta 9.1 ko eh hehehe... dami pwede gawin sa speaker na yan...  ;D
Agree there and second that JojoD818,

So agree ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 07, 2009 at 12:22 AM
Agree there and second that JojoD818,

So agree ;D ;D ;D


pano ko naman ibenta bro, from a tiny t-amp to tube amps to multi-hundred-watt power amps walang tapon...  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ATJr. on Jan 07, 2009 at 10:51 AM

pano ko naman ibenta bro, from a tiny t-amp to tube amps to multi-hundred-watt power amps walang tapon...  ;D ;D ;D




pardon my ignorance, but what is the going price nowadays? and who sells them? i might just get one set... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 07, 2009 at 10:56 AM
pardon my ignorance, but what is the going price nowadays? and who sells them? i might just get one set... ;D

Hi Tony,

brand new is between 5K to 6K and pre-owned is 4K to 4.5K depending on condition...



hth


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ATJr. on Jan 07, 2009 at 11:06 AM
thanks, saan ba nakakabile? i have been out for so long now....  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: supotman on Jan 07, 2009 at 11:06 AM
pardon my ignorance, but what is the going price nowadays? and who sells them? i might just get one set... ;D
di ba 6 ohms mga wharf.., where  do you plug them ? 8ohm tap or 4 ohms of your amp?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead000 on Jan 07, 2009 at 11:11 AM
di ba 6 ohms mga wharf.., where  do you plug them ? 8ohm tap or 4 ohms of your amp?

8-ohms... 4 ohms just means they're doing some current limiting to the amp output, or some additional output protection. just make sure your amp can handle it. otherwise, don't crank it too much or do some additional thermal control.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Jan 07, 2009 at 11:13 AM
thanks, saan ba nakakabile? i have been out for so long now....  ;D
If I may JojoD818,

Sights and Sounds Shangri La mall
Theaterworks at Trinoma mall
AVshop also actively offering them :D

Cheers,

Blackie
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Jan 07, 2009 at 11:17 AM

pano ko naman ibenta bro, from a tiny t-amp to tube amps to multi-hundred-watt power amps walang tapon...  ;D ;D ;D



Yeheah!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 07, 2009 at 11:18 AM
thanks, saan ba nakakabile? i have been out for so long now....  ;D


got my 9.1 pre-owned eh, my 9.5 from Spectra...  ;)

pero dami distributors nito Tony, I think Ambassador also has them. Si avshop (a member here) also sells brand new ones...

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 07, 2009 at 11:24 AM
If I may JojoD818,

Sights and Sounds Shangri La mall
Theaterworks at Trinoma mall
AVshop also actively offering them :D

Cheers,

Blackie


ayun! sorry medyo slow ako ngayon sa trigger... sleepy pa hahaha!  ;D ;D ;D

Yeheah!


Wharfs are not for everybody... honestly, I just liked their tonal character (suited for my hearing tastes). we did BS and FS shootouts before I got into Wharfs hehehe... swerte na lang at mura pala mga ito compared to other brands...


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Jan 07, 2009 at 03:27 PM
Could not agree more JojoD818,

Some of my earliest experiences in Home Theater included Wharfedale, Infinity and Mordaunt Short.  The Wharfedales have sort of grown on me through time, so I am particularly biased towards them.  They more than meet my needs.  Contemplating on getting the CM though, it is my only speaker that is not Wharfedale in my 5. setup.

Cheers!

Blackie :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: avshop on Jan 07, 2009 at 05:16 PM
Could not agree more JojoD818,

Some of my earliest experiences in Home Theater included Wharfedale, Infinity and Mordaunt Short.  The Wharfedales have sort of grown on me through time, so I am particularly biased towards them.  They more than meet my needs.  Contemplating on getting the CM though, it is my only speaker that is not Wharfedale in my 5. setup.

Cheers!

Blackie :D

i like the 9cm more than the 9cs. if you have the space for it, go for it. i have the 9cm in stock if you want one. i'll give you a good deal. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Jan 08, 2009 at 08:19 AM
Replied to your PM AVshop.

Thank you :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ATJr. on Jan 08, 2009 at 08:53 AM
di ba 6 ohms mga wharf.., where  do you plug them ? 8ohm tap or 4 ohms of your amp?

sa 8 ohms...but you can try 4 ohms hindi naman delikado.....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ATJr. on Jan 08, 2009 at 08:54 AM
If I may JojoD818,

Sights and Sounds Shangri La mall
Theaterworks at Trinoma mall
AVshop also actively offering them :D

Cheers,

Blackie

thanks...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dana on Jan 08, 2009 at 11:10 AM
Pls count me in.
During the typhoon Milenyo way back 2006, our company extended contingency funds (amount almost equivalent to buy me a 9.1)to us employees.When I received the funds, my mind then was to buy the 9.1 rosewood color para may souvenir si Milenyo sakin ;D.
Called up Sights & Sounds Shangrila and had it delivered to our house.
Truly a value for money speaker system:construction/aesthetic  and sound-wise.
Just like the other satisfied guys here,my 9.1 rosewood Milenyo may  stay with me for a long long time probably.
The only modern speaker system  I have acquired to date.
I used it sparingly with the other vintage speakers  I have:)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 08, 2009 at 06:27 PM
ayun! si bagyong Milenyo nga yun... that was when I bought my 9.5 at park square... i remember pa kasi nag clearing pa lang sa makati nun mga trees na natumba sa typhoon...  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gob on Jan 08, 2009 at 11:38 PM
thats nice to hear sir, will try to visit your place sir

hi sir E-reply, galing ako sa store mo kanina & amazed in 9.1, speacially nun pina try ko yun dared 300b mono blocks. 
sent you pm.

thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: E-reply on Jan 09, 2009 at 11:02 AM
hi sir E-reply, galing ako sa store mo kanina & amazed in 9.1, speacially nun pina try ko yun dared 300b mono blocks. 
sent you pm.

thanks

Finally, 9.1 catches your attention.  :D

9.1 is really a very efficient speaker because of high sensitivity. It can easily drive the tube amplifiers, even of low wattage ones. If you are on the budget, you won't go wrong with this speaker.

Looking forward to seeing you grab home this Wharfedale 9.1.  ;D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Grail on Jan 10, 2009 at 02:15 PM
Sir E-Reply,

I'm interested in the 9.1, and also the wh-2 (center/surround) speakers (both black).
Please pm me your last price for these babies.

Thanks.

 :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: czrocker on Jan 11, 2009 at 09:47 PM
guys anong us audio na sub ang bagay ipares sa diamond speaker set-up ( using the 9.5, 9CS, 9dfs ) yung 508 or 510 ?? TIA...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead000 on Jan 12, 2009 at 02:18 AM
guys anong us audio na sub ang bagay ipares sa diamond speaker set-up ( using the 9.5, 9CS, 9dfs ) yung 508 or 510 ?? TIA...

510.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: czrocker on Jan 12, 2009 at 08:10 PM
for pure audio set-up, 9.1 or 9.2 ??? Tia
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: avshop on Jan 12, 2009 at 09:53 PM
for pure audio set-up, 9.1 or 9.2 ??? Tia

go for the 9.1. the 9.2 can sound a bit muddy. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: czrocker on Jan 13, 2009 at 06:37 PM
go for the 9.1. the 9.2 can sound a bit muddy. :)



tnx  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bayen on Jan 15, 2009 at 06:25 PM
ok na ba ung HK AVR 254 for wharfedale diamong series 9?

heres the setup:

9.1 for the Fronts
9CS for the Center
9DFS for the rear
SW150 for the Sub.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: RXV on Jan 15, 2009 at 06:56 PM
ok na ba ung HK AVR 254 for wharfedale diamong series 9?

heres the setup:

9.1 for the Fronts
9CS for the Center
9DFS for the rear
SW150 for the Sub.

Thanks in advance.

Match naman yung HK sa Wharfes. Set-up is also good, but I suggest to get a better sub if you're more into HT/bass.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: avshop on Jan 15, 2009 at 07:34 PM
ok na ba ung HK AVR 254 for wharfedale diamong series 9?

heres the setup:

9.1 for the Fronts
9CS for the Center
9DFS for the rear
SW150 for the Sub.

Thanks in advance.

hk and wharfs will match well.  if in a small room the sw150 is ok na. but if you have a big room you might want to get a bigger more powerful subs.  i can offer you good deals on the wharfedale, polk audio, and infinity. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bayen on Jan 15, 2009 at 10:25 PM
hk and wharfs will match well.  if in a small room the sw150 is ok na. but if you have a big room you might want to get a bigger more powerful subs.  i can offer you good deals on the wharfedale, polk audio, and infinity. :)

Hi avshop,

could you PM me the the price for a package deal for the wharfedale speakers plus the HK 245.

im planning to go for wharfedale series 9 speakers + HK 245 AVR. I'll be using it for my small living room.

9.1 for the Fronts
9CS for the Center
9DFS for the rear
SW150 for the Sub

Thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: avshop on Jan 15, 2009 at 10:45 PM
Hi avshop,

could you PM me the the price for a package deal for the wharfedale speakers plus the HK 245.

im planning to go for wharfedale series 9 speakers + HK 245 AVR. I'll be using it for my small living room.

9.1 for the Fronts
9CS for the Center
9DFS for the rear
SW150 for the Sub

Thanks.

sent you pm :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: markcrenz on Jan 16, 2009 at 02:13 PM
i'm planning to buy new or used wharfedale diamond 9.1. please pm your offers. ty!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jojitv on Jan 16, 2009 at 11:35 PM
Sir E-Reply,

I'm interested in the 9.1, and also the wh-2 (center/surround) speakers (both black).
Please pm me your last price for these babies.

Thanks.

 :)

Sir, I would suggest you get the Diamond 9 DFS. IMHO, it's way better than the WH2.. ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: E-reply on Jan 17, 2009 at 12:06 PM
Sir E-Reply,

I'm interested in the 9.1, and also the wh-2 (center/surround) speakers (both black).
Please pm me your last price for these babies.

Thanks.

 :)

Sir, I would suggest you get the Diamond 9 DFS. IMHO, it's way better than the WH2.. ;)

Jojitv is right. 9.1 should be matched with the tonal balance speaker or same series speaker like 9cs diamond (not WH-2 Center). You can use WH-2 as surround. However, since there is no WH-2 surround on sale, I suggest you take Diamond 9dfs instead.

Sent you prices.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Grail on Jan 17, 2009 at 12:41 PM
Jojitv is right. 9.1 should be matched with the tonal balance speaker or same series speaker like 9cs diamond (not WH-2 Center). You can use WH-2 as surround. However, since there is no WH-2 surround on sale, I suggest you take Diamond 9dfs instead.

Sent you prices.


Thanks, sirs Jojitv and E-reply. I would love to have the 9cs, but I don't have the space for it in my ht rack, it's just too big. I really like the 9.1 and I'm looking for center/surround speakers to match it. Maybe the 9cc, but I'm told it's not sold separately. The size of the wh-2 center fits my size requirement. Is there a big difference in tonal balance between the two? If it's not that much, it's fine by me.

Thanks again, guys.

:)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead000 on Jan 17, 2009 at 04:30 PM
not by much would depend how critical you are. is there really no way to squeeze the 9cs in there by reconfiguring, for example? that way you could have the 9dfs for perfect tonal balance. i previously have the gail dipoles installed when i upgraded to wharfes. but you can distinguish the difference in level and tonal balance between them. i'm a wharfe guy but i could suggest you look at the mordaunt-short/mission alternatives too, if space is a concern. you really don't want to have a mish and mash in there.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: manongtaho on Jan 18, 2009 at 03:07 PM
iM SELLIN MY DIAMOND 9 SW-150,

FOR ONLY 8000, VERY PRESENTABLE AND NO SCHTRACH. YES SIR! YOUR HEARD ME NO SCRATCH. PLS TEXT ME AT MY NO. 09266402090
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dannielsimone on Jan 18, 2009 at 05:10 PM
Great PDF From Wharfedale in respect to home theater  set up speaker recommendations for 5.1 , 6.1 and 7.1 based on room size.

http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/images/ranges/brochure_3.pdf


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jojitv on Jan 18, 2009 at 07:44 PM
Is the Diamond DFS grill removable?
Title: Wharfedale 9.1 75th anniversary limited edition
Post by: vaportrail on Jan 22, 2009 at 09:48 AM
http://www.apollohifi.com.au/html/welcome/Wharfedale9.1LE.htm (http://www.apollohifi.com.au/html/welcome/Wharfedale9.1LE.htm)


Is there a Wharfedale 9.1 LE available here? If not, can it be special ordered? How much?
Title: Re: Wharfedale 9.1 75th anniversary limited edition
Post by: tikboy90 on Jan 22, 2009 at 10:52 AM
Ganda naman. Parang MA ang design.
Title: Re: Wharfedale 9.1 75th anniversary limited edition
Post by: jpeg on Jan 22, 2009 at 03:01 PM
Very nice. Makes me miss my first pair of speakers. Hope they improved the crossover parts and wires as well. Then this would really be a great Limited Edition speaker.

Jason
Title: Re: Wharfedale 9.1 75th anniversary limited edition
Post by: simonzaide on Jan 22, 2009 at 04:39 PM
ganda it does look like a MA without the grills....

sana it will be sold locally soon :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale 9.1 75th anniversary limited edition
Post by: vaportrail on Jan 22, 2009 at 06:04 PM
More than a year ago pa pala lumabas to. Limited Edition kaya 2 thousand lang ang ilalabas ng wharfedale. Calling all wharfedale distributors, give us an info into this please!...
Title: Re: Wharfedale 9.1 75th anniversary limited edition
Post by: dannielsimone on Jan 22, 2009 at 06:44 PM
http://www.apollohifi.com.au/html/welcome/Wharfedale9.1LE.htm (http://www.apollohifi.com.au/html/welcome/Wharfedale9.1LE.htm)


Is there a Wharfedale 9.1 LE available here? If not, can it be special ordered? How much?


Looks great but the cost is a little high?????
Title: Re: Wharfedale 9.1 75th anniversary limited edition
Post by: John E. on Jan 23, 2009 at 03:50 AM
wow ang ganda nga  ;D sana ka presyo lang din ng regular 9.1 or di nagkakalayo ng presyo :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Lancito on Jan 26, 2009 at 04:25 PM
Is the Diamond DFS grill removable?

No, sir.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jojitv on Jan 26, 2009 at 05:15 PM
No, sir.

Thanks for the info sir. Good thing I did not force it too much. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dannielsimone on Jan 26, 2009 at 06:19 PM
As I mentioned in other threads my old faithful Bose 301 had been my fronts for many years. Bought them bout 12 or 13 years ago(or more). Never had a problem with them (maybe the nieghbors did). Had put them in the closet after I upgraded to my dedicated HT with a full Paradigm system.  Recently pulled them out as am using them again but discovered (when using on high volume)  an issue with the right speaker.  Have been auditioning front firing speakers to use as surrounds while I repiar the Bose .  MIND YOU I AM ON A BUDGET.  I auditioned them for the purpose of testing the full spectrum of sound as if they were  "fronts".   Auditioned  Polk Audio, Missions, Def Tech, Jamo,  and many more.  As I am using them for surrounds my decision was very easy. Firstly  All the  speakers sounded Very good.   But for bang for buck I had to go with the Wharfedale Diamond 9.1. 

As my bose are being repaired I am now using my wharfes as fronts.  Am happy in all respects. One more thing .......  It amazes me how here in the Philippines these speakers are much cheaper than they are abroad.   Am still wondering why?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hammer0412 on Jan 26, 2009 at 09:13 PM
Very happy with my newly acquired 9.1's

I've been using my Celestion 7 MkII Monitors for a while and I decided it was time to retire them (gave them to my dear brother).

The 9.1's are noticeably warmer, and the bass seemingly tighter. Pairs better with my Yamaha RX-V363.

Now If only I can afford the 9.5's....

SARS!  ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: avshop on Jan 26, 2009 at 10:09 PM
Very happy with my newly acquired 9.1's

I've been using my Celestion 7 MkII Monitors for a while and I decided it was time to retire them (gave them to my dear brother).

The 9.1's are noticeably warmer, and the bass seemingly tighter. Pairs better with my Yamaha RX-V363.

Now If only I can afford the 9.5's....

SARS!  ::)

can sell you the 9.5 for only 12k. can also give you installment terms. i can also give you good deals on the other models in the diamond series. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: avshop on Jan 29, 2009 at 12:52 PM
wharfedale speaker packages!!! all brand new!!! :)

wharfedale 9.6, 9cm, 9.1 - 28k (rosewood finish)
wharfedale 9.5, 9cs, dfs - 20.5k (black ash)
wharfedale  9.1, 9cs, 9.1 - 14.8k (black ash)

pm me if interested. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dmaximus on Jan 29, 2009 at 09:42 PM
wharfedale speaker packages!!! all brand new!!! :)

wharfedale 9.6, 9cm, 9.1 - 28k (rosewood finish)
wharfedale 9.5, 9cs, dfs - 20.5k (black ash)
wharfedale  9.1, 9cs, 9.1 - 14.8k (black ash)

pm me if interested. :)

sir do accept accept bankard for terms?  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: avshop on Jan 29, 2009 at 11:18 PM
sir do accept accept bankard for terms?  ;)

i accept credit card but i'll have to add to the price. but i can only offer deferred payment with banco de oro and equitable credit cards. if you don't have a bdo card pwedeng pag-usapan ang terms. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: pooch on Jan 30, 2009 at 06:19 PM
sir pa pm yung terms ng BDO for this  ;D

wharfedale  9.1, 9cs, 9.1 - 14.8k (black ash)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: avshop on Jan 30, 2009 at 07:38 PM
sir pa pm yung terms ng BDO for this  ;D

wharfedale  9.1, 9cs, 9.1 - 14.8k (black ash)

pm sent. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sientobente on Feb 01, 2009 at 09:26 AM
sir avshop,

may shop ba kayo? i wanna change my existing shelf speakers to the 9.1, can you please pm me too about the prices? thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: avshop on Feb 01, 2009 at 12:20 PM
sir avshop,

may shop ba kayo? i wanna change my existing shelf speakers to the 9.1, can you please pm me too about the prices? thanks.

sent you pm :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jetstar on Feb 03, 2009 at 02:51 AM
can sell you the 9.5 for only 12k. can also give you installment terms. i can also give you good deals on the other models in the diamond series. :)

Sir, he is using RX-V363. Don't you think that 9.5 will be underpowered using this receiver? I'm using RX-V361 on a 9.1 and power is just enough to drive this speaker.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Toslink on Feb 04, 2009 at 11:19 PM
Sir, he is using RX-V363. Don't you think that 9.5 will be underpowered using this receiver? I'm using RX-V361 on a 9.1 and power is just enough to drive this speaker.

363 has enough power (100w x 5) to make your 9.5 sing! Same power lang yan before ng 659 ko kayang-kaya yan bro. Now i have 663 (95w x7) less 5w sa old avr ko pero gud na gud pa din!  BTW i have 9.5/ 9cm/ wh-2 surrounds (x4) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blued888 on Feb 04, 2009 at 11:23 PM
363 has enough power (100w x 5) to make your 9.5 sing! Same power lang yan before ng 659 ko kayang-kaya yan bro. Now i have 663 (95w x7) less 5w sa old avr ko pero gud na gud pa din!  BTW i have 9.5/ 9cm/ wh-2 surrounds (x4) ;D ;D ;D

100w x 5 @ 1kHz yung 363, so talagang around 70-75w x 5 lang siya @ 20Hz to 20kHz. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: tonetagabaler on Feb 05, 2009 at 06:11 PM

 Am happy in all respects. One more thing .......  It amazes me how here in the Philippines these speakers are much cheaper than they are abroad.   Am still wondering why?

haha... same here sir!! ;D
kaya nga bang for the buck!!
i auditioned nga here in vancouver 9.1 equal speakers of polk & klipsch, etc..
mas gusto ko parin 9.1 wharfe.. sarap sa tenga.. pero mas mahal pa yang polk at klipsch
sabagay kanya kanya lang taste..
wag na dapat taasan ng mga dealer ang wharfe jan pinas para naman everybody happy!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Feb 05, 2009 at 06:21 PM
may walnut finish na ba locally?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Toslink on Feb 06, 2009 at 12:56 AM
may walnut finish na ba locally?

yup sa festival mall (hi-fi lounge) meron dati order basis lang.   
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Feb 06, 2009 at 01:11 PM
thats good news been aching to get them...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dhoZe on Feb 27, 2009 at 01:09 AM
anung magandang combination?
a.) 9.5,9cs,9sr
b.) 9.5,9cm,9sr
c.) 9.4,9cs,9sr
d.) 9.5,9cs,9.1
e.) 9.5,9cm,9.1
anu kaya ang the best for movies?
pili pili na  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blued888 on Feb 27, 2009 at 04:25 AM
anung magandang combination?
a.) 9.5,9cs,9sr
b.) 9.5,9cm,9sr
c.) 9.4,9cs,9sr
d.) 9.5,9cs,9.1
e.) 9.5,9cm,9.1
anu kaya ang the best for movies?
pili pili na  ;D


Yung surrounds mo, choice mo na kung either 9SR (dipole, more dispersed sound) or 9.1 (monopole, more directional sound).

As for the front, I would match the driver sizes as much as possible, if the floorstanders have 6.5-inch drivers, go for the 9.CM kasi baka malunod yung center channel. I would only choose to go with the 9.CS if I would get either the 9.4 or the 9.1 paired with it. Pag 9.5, 9.CM kukunin ko.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: John E. on Feb 27, 2009 at 06:41 AM
dhoZe

maganda lahat yan hehehe! pero depende what will drive it! a good powered amp can always drive speakers well as it releases it's true characteristics. however an underpowered amp cannot bring out the speakers true potential kahit bookshelf pa sya.

i prefer the 9cm over 9cs for the center channel and 9sr naman for surrounds! i love both 9.1 and 9.5 ;D

just my 2cents!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead000 on Feb 27, 2009 at 07:25 AM
since you said movies, i will go with the 9.5/9.cs. if a large part will be music, i will go with the 9.6/9.cm. for me the 9.5 has more slam for movies. the 9.6 tends to be more laid back, and it will need a really powerful amp. not that it can't be driven by the entry level ones though. reason is as mentioned earlier.

for the surrounds, it will depend upon your room. if you're putting the surrounds near the room boundaries, i will go with the 9.dfs. otherwise, the 9.1 will be fine.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Superman on Feb 27, 2009 at 08:08 AM
My vote:

b.) 9.5,9cm,9sr

Thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JAQY888 on Feb 27, 2009 at 08:22 AM
My vote:

b.) 9.5,9cm,9sr


Thanks!

+1.  :D :D :D

Used this combi before ...... PANALO !!!!!!  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Feb 27, 2009 at 08:52 AM
+1.  :D :D :D

Used this combi before ...... PANALO !!!!!!  :D :D :D
+2 ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Feb 27, 2009 at 09:13 AM
anung magandang combination?
a.) 9.5,9cs,9sr
b.) 9.5,9cm,9sr
c.) 9.4,9cs,9sr
d.) 9.5,9cs,9.1
e.) 9.5,9cm,9.1
anu kaya ang the best for movies?
pili pili na  ;D

Phone a friend?  ;)

Eliminate na natin ang "d.)" and "e.)" sa choices mo.  Hindi recommended ang 9.1 for surround use.

Tanggalin na rin natin ang "c.)" sa choices mo.  Kung floorstander, mas OK kung 9.5 or 9.6.

Tanggalin natin ang "a.)", kasi ang recommended center para sa 9.5 ay 9.CM.

Tama sila.  "b.) 9.5,9cm,9sr" dapat.



Also see Wharedale's recommendations on their Diamond 9 brochure.  See page 7, "Home Cinema Solutions":

http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/images/ranges/brochure_3.pdf


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dhoZe on Feb 28, 2009 at 07:46 PM
woah mukang panalo na si b. san po kaya pwedeng mka audition nito?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dhoZe on Feb 28, 2009 at 10:16 PM
+1.  :D :D :D

Used this combi before ...... PANALO !!!!!!  :D :D :D

Sir ganu po kalaki ang listening area nung gamit nyo si combination B?  ;D

@Sir JohnE.
hmmm kaya na din ba ng Yamaha 663 para sa combination B.? (sorry po noob plang me, first HT setup ko to)

and mga bossings, plan ko po kc mag 9.1,CM,SR for the mean time, then switch ako to 7.1 dagdag lng ako ng 9.5, pepede ko bang gamitin 9.1 as for surrounds? or may mas maganda kaung suggested na upgrade path?. . .
TIA
Title: Where to find replacement spikes for 9.4?
Post by: alistair on Mar 01, 2009 at 12:07 AM
Question: Where can you find/buy replacement metal spikes for the Wharfedale floorstanders?


I misplaced the metal spikes that came with my 9.4's. Saw some 3rd-party spikes being sold in the marketplace but I don't know if they'll fit (or if the mounting holes are standard in size and thread).

Alternatively, and since I have tiled floors, can I buy replacement 'rubber' type pods instead of metal spikes anywhere?

TIA!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: avshop on Mar 01, 2009 at 12:22 PM
Sir ganu po kalaki ang listening area nung gamit nyo si combination B?  ;D

@Sir JohnE.
hmmm kaya na din ba ng Yamaha 663 para sa combination B.? (sorry po noob plang me, first HT setup ko to)

and mga bossings, plan ko po kc mag 9.1,CM,SR for the mean time, then switch ako to 7.1 dagdag lng ako ng 9.5, pepede ko bang gamitin 9.1 as for surrounds? or may mas maganda kaung suggested na upgrade path?. . .
TIA

you can use the 9.1 for surrounds in a 7.1 set up.  i think your plan is ok na. :) 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: milken on Mar 01, 2009 at 04:13 PM
and mga bossings, plan ko po kc mag 9.1,CM,SR for the mean time, then switch ako to 7.1 dagdag lng ako ng 9.5, pepede ko bang gamitin 9.1 as for surrounds? or may mas maganda kaung suggested na upgrade path?. . .
TIA

ano kaya kung 2 pairs of 9.1 then 9cm as center?  the reason why mas recommended ang 9sr is mas madali syang iwall-mount bec of its size.  but the trend now is to put surround speakers on stands kaya pwede 2 pairs 9.1 para mas balance sila in case they'll be used as surround speakers someday.  http://www.dolby.com/consumer/home_entertainment/roomlayout2.html (http://www.dolby.com/consumer/home_entertainment/roomlayout2.html)  no doubt 9.1 sounds better than 9sr as front having won several awards..so no reason why it shouldn't sound good also when used as surrounds.

on the other hand, i'm not so sure how 9.1 as fronts will match with 9cm as center in the meantime na wala pa yng 9.5 nyo... teka, how big is your room??  if I have a small to mid size room, I'll consider 3 pairs of 9.1 for 6.1 channel na and use the savings to buy the best subwoofer I can afford. the cost of a pair of 9.1 is near the cost of one 9cm but you get additional speaker and are assured that your center 9.1 sonically matches your 9.1 fronts (obviously kasi identical sila). but that's just me. hehe  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dhoZe on Mar 01, 2009 at 08:47 PM
@Sir avshop
Thnx sir, bisita ko shop mo soon para maaudition ung ganung setup and para makapag desisyon na dn me, almost mag 2 months na dn akong nag scout ng first set ko  ;D di ka po talga nagcarry ng yamaha 663? trip ko talga un. . .  ;D

Thnx din sir milken for your insights and suggestions  ;D
ung listening area ko po pala is 15sqm

anu pong advantage ng 9DFS sa 9SR? which is better pag 9.1 ang kateam-up nya for surrounds?
TIA
Title: Re: Where to find replacement spikes for 9.4?
Post by: barrister on Mar 02, 2009 at 12:19 PM
Alternatively, and since I have tiled floors, can I buy replacement 'rubber' type pods instead of metal spikes anywhere?

I use 3M Bumpon on my Wharfedale Diamond 9.5.

3M Bumpon is available in any hardware store at the malls.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: milken on Mar 02, 2009 at 07:20 PM
anu pong advantage ng 9DFS sa 9SR? which is better pag 9.1 ang kateam-up nya for surrounds?
TIA

9DFS are dipole speakers while 9sr and 9.1 are direct-firing bookshelves.  There has been lots of debate between them, some prefer dipoles, some prefer direct firing monopoles....some bipoles, tripoles!  You may want to read this AVS thread between B&W DS3 (switchable dipole-monopole) vs. 685 (monopole): http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=898287 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=898287)

It depends on several factors, whether you have walls to hang the 9DFS, whether you have the room for 7.1 (there must be enough space behind the listening area for rear speakers and sides for side surrounds), budget, listening preference, whether you're a THX fan (dipoles a must ---see THX recommended speaker layout at their website), etc.  I prefer bookshelves as surrounds but some PDVD members prefer dipoles.  Only you can decide which one suits you best. Good luck!  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dhoZe on Mar 03, 2009 at 12:16 AM
Thanks for that sir milken  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: avshop on Mar 03, 2009 at 12:40 AM
9DFS are dipole speakers while 9sr and 9.1 are direct-firing bookshelves.  There has been lots of debate between them, some prefer dipoles, some prefer direct firing monopoles....some bipoles, tripoles!  You may want to read this AVS thread between B&W DS3 (switchable dipole-monopole) vs. 685 (monopole): http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=898287 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=898287)

It depends on several factors, whether you have walls to hang the 9DFS, whether you have the room for 7.1 (there must be enough space behind the listening area for rear speakers and sides for side surrounds), budget, listening preference, whether you're a THX fan (dipoles a must ---see THX recommended speaker layout at their website), etc.  I prefer bookshelves as surrounds but some PDVD members prefer dipoles.  Only you can decide which one suits you best. Good luck!  ;)

i also prefer bookshelf speakers for surrounds. :) 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lakambini on Mar 18, 2009 at 11:45 AM
Whraf owners

How long does it take to break-in a Wharf speaker?

Tnx
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: magnum5 on Mar 18, 2009 at 10:57 PM
..tsaka paano i-break-in ang wharfedale 9.5 ?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lmerb on Mar 19, 2009 at 10:24 PM
I'm currently using 8.1 and I'm planning to upgrade will the 9.1 worth it?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: magnum5 on Mar 21, 2009 at 01:30 PM
...just got my 9.5's from a store in banawe...we don't have a benefit of a wharf audition in this part of the country, what we can audition here are MS Carnival, Jamo and Pioneers Speakers in an of SM branch..i just  relied  much from this forum in deciding which speaker to buy..but lo and behold nung naka set-up na ang 9.5' with an onkyo 606...ika nga, "lufet"..terrific...kailangan pa bang i-break-in yan ( kailangan pa bang i-memorize yan  )
...but i still have my MS Carnival 6 with Sony STR-DG520..still good...implied sa manual on how to break-in the speaker,like off phase one line then set-up face to face, which is complied, and impressed with the results..with the 9.5's i'm having apprehensions on the necessisity of a "forced run-in ", most in this forum would suggest  to let it run-in by itself...
...btw, sulit ang 5k sa freight charges, next day delivery, door to door...thanks to all :D :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead000 on Mar 21, 2009 at 06:19 PM
glad you liked your 9.5. for movie watching duties these are one slamming speakers. i can use it as Large and supplement the low low end by setting my crossover to 60hz and the sub to L+R/LFE. for music, there's a lot of better speakers... but for the price these are hard to beat.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: magnum5 on Mar 23, 2009 at 01:59 PM
thanks brow :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: macdon on Mar 24, 2009 at 04:37 PM
Wharfedale Tweaks

While we were contemplating of changing my dad's aging wharfedale modus speakers, I thought that maybe it could still be resurrected thru the help of our very own DIY Master - Anthony.

Anthony changed the stock tweeters to Velodyne tweeters (silk tweeters with more extension), built new crossovers & changed the rubber surrounds of the mid-woofers. When we got the speakers back, I was so surprised with how those modus sounded - parang B&Ws na ah ;D
The sound was more open than the dark sounding wharfedales that I'm familiar with and the midwoofer had more body into it with more pronounced tight bass. It was certainly 2-3x better than the old Wharfedales ;)

Napaisip tuloy ako kumuha ng 9.1 just to see what Anthony's magic can do to it :D ;D Talagang genius sa speakers yung tao  ;) The 2.5k we paid to fix & tweak both speakers was nothing compared to the new sound we heard coming out of 'em - panalo talaga! ;D

So if you're planning to upgrade your Wharfedales to a different brand - maybe you would like to consider Anthony's tweaking services ;D He's done hundreds of Wharfedale tweaks! :o

Sorry - phone cam lang:

(http://i88.servimg.com/u/f88/11/88/38/44/img_0010.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=375&u=11883844)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Mutly on Mar 25, 2009 at 05:28 PM
Hi macdon! Nice work on having you're Wharfedales resurrected! Do they really sound that much better than before? Completely new crossover and maybe wiring is it? Sorry, new in this forum and been looking around kasi for anyone who has done tweaks on their 9s and how they sound eh and this is the closest thing so far.  :D

I have 2 pairs of Diamond 9s that are in great condition and sound good, but I'm still very interested to see how much better they can get by maybe tweaking a pair. Do you think it's a good idea?  ;D

How do i get in touch with Anthony if ever?  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: macdon on Mar 25, 2009 at 06:32 PM
Hi macdon! Nice work on having you're Wharfedales resurrected! Do they really sound that much better than before? Completely new crossover and maybe wiring is it? Sorry, new in this forum and been looking around kasi for anyone who has done tweaks on their 9s and how they sound eh and this is the closest thing so far.  :D

I have 2 pairs of Diamond 9s that are in great condition and sound good, but I'm still very interested to see how much better they can get by maybe tweaking a pair. Do you think it's a good idea?  ;D

How do i get in touch with Anthony if ever?  ;D

Even before i even knew Anthony - I've heard some members here had their Wharfes tweaked which they're still using till now.
I believe the weakest part of  Wharfedale is within their tweeters - it lacks a bit of extension, which is probably why they sound dark/warm for my taste.

Anthony replaces the stock Wharfe tweeters with Velodyne  silk tweeters and silk tweeters are the most natural sounding tweeters around. Velo tweeters even have a better magnet material than the stock ferrite magnet that the Wharfe uses. The Velo tweets definitely opens up the capabilities of the Wharfedales.

Now, since the Velo tweets have a higher extension, the stock crossover would have to be modified to maximize this extension properly. Anthony will replace some parts of the xover.
I just finished setting up my Dad's wharfes and he himself was amazed on the big change from before. He was even surprised how come the sound is coming from the tv & not the speakers themselves - thats those Velo tweets working for ya ;D

Oh yeah - anthony makes speakers himself & has a long thread here in pdvd. He can make you a bookshelf for only 10k & it can rival any branded speakers in the market costing 2-3x ;)

Anthony - 0921 4697091

Landline - 3577990

Anthony is located in lower Bicutan, Taguig.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ProtegeManiac on Mar 25, 2009 at 09:39 PM
I'm currently using 8.1 and I'm planning to upgrade will the 9.1 worth it?

get a used Pacific or Evo series instead ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Mutly on Mar 25, 2009 at 09:45 PM
Even before i even knew Anthony - I've heard some members here had their Wharfes tweaked which they're still using till now.
I believe the weakest part of  Wharfedale is within their tweeters - it lacks a bit of extension, which is probably why they sound dark/warm for my taste.

Anthony replaces the stock Wharfe tweeters with Velodyne  silk tweeters and silk tweeters are the most natural sounding tweeters around. Velo tweeters even have a better magnet material than the stock ferrite magnet that the Wharfe uses. The Velo tweets definitely opens up the capabilities of the Wharfedales.

Now, since the Velo tweets have a higher extension, the stock crossover would have to be modified to maximize this extension properly. Anthony will replace some parts of the xover.
I just finished setting up my Dad's wharfes and he himself was amazed on the big change from before. He was even surprised how come the sound is coming from the tv & not the speakers themselves - thats those Velo tweets working for ya ;D

Oh yeah - anthony makes speakers himself & has a long thread here in pdvd. He can make you a bookshelf for only 10k & it can rival any branded speakers in the market costing 2-3x ;)

Anthony - 0921 4697091

Landline - 3577990

Anthony is located in lower Bicutan, Taguig.


Very useful information for me... thank you so much!  ;D

Yes, i feel they lack a bit of extension off the top end also. I see, so i guess the Wharf tweeters are at their full potential already so it needs to be replaced if i want more upper extension. I still definitely do want a silk tweeter for them though.  :)

Interesting that he makes his own speakers... will check that out for sure.

Thanks again macdon for the info! Will try contacting him as soon as i can decide what I'm going to do with these speakers.  :D

Cheers!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: avshop on Mar 28, 2009 at 11:36 AM
selling a brand new wharf 9.5 and 9cs package for only 16.5k. black ash finish. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mercury724 on Mar 31, 2009 at 01:50 AM
still a newbie, just want to share.. nababasa ko lang sa mga threads about speakers being bi-amped and got curious. i have a wharfedale 9.4 and i'm happy with the performance, but yesterday i wanted to try bi-amping my 9.4 to see if could squeeze more sound quality from it and since my avr is capable of bi-amp so i decided to try it, just tonight i went on installing the extra wires to the speakers and connect it to my amp, and after setting the avr to bi-amp, i played the blueman group "the complex" DVD and started playing the music video... i was totally surprised  :o mas lalong gumanda yun tunog, the highs are more distinct than before, sound came out crisp and more detailed. :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jpeg on Mar 31, 2009 at 10:12 AM
Hi macdon! Nice work on having you're Wharfedales resurrected! Do they really sound that much better than before? Completely new crossover and maybe wiring is it? Sorry, new in this forum and been looking around kasi for anyone who has done tweaks on their 9s and how they sound eh and this is the closest thing so far.  :D

I have 2 pairs of Diamond 9s that are in great condition and sound good, but I'm still very interested to see how much better they can get by maybe tweaking a pair. Do you think it's a good idea?  ;D

How do i get in touch with Anthony if ever?  ;D

Sir,

you might want to consider buying another speaker instead.


PS. benta mo nalang sa akin ng mura diamond 9 mo. ;D



By the way, are the Walnut finish 9.1s available here already?

Jason
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Mutly on Apr 02, 2009 at 05:11 PM
Hehe! I did consider that actually then i re-considered.  ;D

Think i will keep them for a bit more but if ever i do sell them, i will let you know jpeg.  Thanks for the offer.  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: John E. on Apr 04, 2009 at 06:53 AM
Wharfedale Tweaks

While we were contemplating of changing my dad's aging wharfedale modus speakers, I thought that maybe it could still be resurrected thru the help of our very own DIY Master - Anthony.

Anthony changed the stock tweeters to Velodyne tweeters (silk tweeters with more extension), built new crossovers & changed the rubber surrounds of the mid-woofers. When we got the speakers back, I was so surprised with how those modus sounded - parang B&Ws na ah ;D
The sound was more open than the dark sounding wharfedales that I'm familiar with and the midwoofer had more body into it with more pronounced tight bass. It was certainly 2-3x better than the old Wharfedales ;)

Napaisip tuloy ako kumuha ng 9.1 just to see what Anthony's magic can do to it :D ;D Talagang genius sa speakers yung tao  ;) The 2.5k we paid to fix & tweak both speakers was nothing compared to the new sound we heard coming out of 'em - panalo talaga! ;D

So if you're planning to upgrade your Wharfedales to a different brand - maybe you would like to consider Anthony's tweaking services ;D He's done hundreds of Wharfedale tweaks! :o

Sorry - phone cam lang:

(http://i88.servimg.com/u/f88/11/88/38/44/img_0010.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=375&u=11883844)


nice  ;D i had my pi-10 also tweaked by anthony last year big improvement din sayang lang di ko pa nasabay yung tweeters nun :) di ko rin mabitawan yung pi-10 ko since among the wharfe speakers that i had eto lang yung di ko mapakawalan.

(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh282/juric_0404/pi-onstand.jpg)
(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh282/juric_0404/13-03-08_1533.jpg) (http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh282/juric_0404/13-03-08_1547.jpg)
cam phone lang din pala gamit ko nung kinunan ko yan ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: John E. on Apr 04, 2009 at 06:57 AM
...currently using this pala for audio  ;D never fails to brighten-up my day!

if i get spare cash im also contemplating on trying the m-caps for these babies.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gob on Apr 20, 2009 at 12:07 PM
nice  ;D i had my pi-10 also tweaked by anthony last year big improvement din sayang lang di ko pa nasabay yung tweeters nun :) di ko rin mabitawan yung pi-10 ko since among the wharfe speakers that i had eto lang yung di ko mapakawalan.

(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh282/juric_0404/pi-onstand.jpg)
(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh282/juric_0404/13-03-08_1533.jpg) (http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh282/juric_0404/13-03-08_1547.jpg)
cam phone lang din pala gamit ko nung kinunan ko yan ;D


nice wharfs you got there =)

yun diamond 9.1 ko mi dent na sides & corner ng baffle, kaya paba maremedyohan???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: macdon on Apr 20, 2009 at 12:19 PM
nice  ;D i had my pi-10 also tweaked by anthony last year big improvement din sayang lang di ko pa nasabay yung tweeters nun :) di ko rin mabitawan yung pi-10 ko since among the wharfe speakers that i had eto lang yung di ko mapakawalan.

(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh282/juric_0404/pi-onstand.jpg)
(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh282/juric_0404/13-03-08_1533.jpg) (http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh282/juric_0404/13-03-08_1547.jpg)
cam phone lang din pala gamit ko nung kinunan ko yan ;D


Brader john - yes sir, I remember you posting that in PB as well. Ang ganda talaga ng outcome ng speakers mo in piano black finish ;) Its great to know you're extending the mileage on those speakers - congrats! ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: macdon on Apr 20, 2009 at 12:37 PM
nice wharfs you got there =)

yun diamond 9.1 ko mi dent na sides & corner ng baffle, kaya paba maremedyohan???

Depende po yan on how deep yung dents. I got my brother's old AR M2 na talagang pumuputok na yung kahoy and the vinyl is lifting off na. I had Anthony removed the vinyl, fixed the wood & re-vinyl a new one. While at it, I had him replaced the stock tweeters with Velodyne tweets, modified the xover & even replaced the grille cloth with a new one.

(http://i88.servimg.com/u/f88/11/88/38/44/dsc_0043.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=396&u=11883844)

Is the cabinets of the 9series Wharfes in natural wood ba or vinyl covering lang? Anthony currently uses an imported vinyl that has better quality than the locally bought vinyls - unfortunately, he has it only black.
Mahirap din mag match ng vinyls - so if you have one that needs a new vinyl - dapat both speakers na ang pabalot nyo. Ok lang cguro kung for audio, pero kung for HT medyo marami ang pababalot mo :P
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: John E. on Apr 21, 2009 at 03:17 PM
nice wharfs you got there =)

yun diamond 9.1 ko mi dent na sides & corner ng baffle, kaya paba maremedyohan???

kaya siguro yan palit ng balot (vinyl) and masilya ;) try to contact anthony or doc mel ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jpeg on Apr 21, 2009 at 04:49 PM
If pamasilya, I suggest you ask Anthony for piano finish na. ;)

Very good workmanship!

Highly recommended.

Jason
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: pogzz505 on May 06, 2009 at 09:57 PM
i'm planning to buy this combi coz it will cost me only 14.5k..tried this at s n s and i liked it..
Wharf diamond9.1..
9cs..
9dfs..

Kung palitan ko ng floor standing speaker ang front..what pwde niyo recommend..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: John E. on May 06, 2009 at 11:12 PM
eh di diamond 9.6 ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead000 on May 07, 2009 at 11:44 AM
i'm planning to buy this combi coz it will cost me only 14.5k..tried this at s n s and i liked it..
Wharf diamond9.1..
9cs..
9dfs..

Kung palitan ko ng floor standing speaker ang front..what pwde niyo recommend..

at least a 9.5.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gob on May 11, 2009 at 07:22 PM
Depende po yan on how deep yung dents. I got my brother's old AR M2 na talagang pumuputok na yung kahoy and the vinyl is lifting off na. I had Anthony removed the vinyl, fixed the wood & re-vinyl a new one. While at it, I had him replaced the stock tweeters with Velodyne tweets, modified the xover & even replaced the grille cloth with a new one.

(http://i88.servimg.com/u/f88/11/88/38/44/dsc_0043.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=396&u=11883844)

Is the cabinets of the 9series Wharfes in natural wood ba or vinyl covering lang? Anthony currently uses an imported vinyl that has better quality than the locally bought vinyls - unfortunately, he has it only black.
Mahirap din mag match ng vinyls - so if you have one that needs a new vinyl - dapat both speakers na ang pabalot nyo. Ok lang cguro kung for audio, pero kung for HT medyo marami ang pababalot mo :P

macdon,

ganda ng transformation, looks brand new ;D.  nabanggit nga sakin ni anthony na madadamay yun isang speaker kaya papalitan ko na rin.  i'll post its pics after transformation
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: macdon on May 12, 2009 at 01:16 AM
macdon,

ganda ng transformation, looks brand new ;D.  nabanggit nga sakin ni anthony na madadamay yun isang speaker kaya papalitan ko na rin.  i'll post its pics after transformation

Talagang ganyan sir Gobi - pag may dent, the only recourse is to use putty/masilya - so in order to do that, aalisin na yung dating vinyl cover. Syempre, pangit kung isa lang ang mapapalitan, kaya kailangan dalawa na sila.
While you're at it - papalitan mo narin ng velodyn tweets yung stock mo - para kang bumile ng bagong speakers nyan kasi mas maganda na ang tunog ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: pogzz505 on May 12, 2009 at 05:09 PM
got the 9.1, 9cs & 9dfs last saturday..pero binalik ko yung 9dfs kasi hindi ko mailagay sa wall bracket..kaya i ordered for the stock of 9sr instead..ayaw ko na kasi maglagay ng bagong hole sa wall..

kung 9.1, 9cs, 9sr combi ok lang ba? or 9.1, 9cs, 9.1 (lagay ko na lang sa speaker stand)..small lang naman living room ko..

more on movies and games..minsan lang music..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lakambini on May 12, 2009 at 05:12 PM
sir,

ok lang yan, sr din kasi likod ko

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aldrich12 on May 12, 2009 at 06:59 PM
hi, I'm planning to buy wharfedale speakers for my home theater setup. do you guys know where i can get the cheapest prices?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: pogzz505 on May 12, 2009 at 07:22 PM
sir,

ok lang yan, sr din kasi likod ko



Thanks sa reply sir..saka medyo madali ilagay ang 9sr kasi maliit siya..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: avshop on May 12, 2009 at 07:29 PM
hi, I'm planning to buy wharfedale speakers for my home theater setup. do you guys know where i can get the cheapest prices?

come by the shop to check out the wharfs. i can give you great deals on them. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: t43m4n on May 17, 2009 at 02:19 PM
As I mentioned in other threads my old faithful Bose 301 had been my fronts for many years. Bought them bout 12 or 13 years ago(or more). Never had a problem with them (maybe the nieghbors did). Had put them in the closet after I upgraded to my dedicated HT with a full Paradigm system.  Recently pulled them out as am using them again but discovered (when using on high volume)  an issue with the right speaker.  Have been auditioning front firing speakers to use as surrounds while I repiar the Bose .  MIND YOU I AM ON A BUDGET.  I auditioned them for the purpose of testing the full spectrum of sound as if they were  "fronts".   Auditioned  Polk Audio, Missions, Def Tech, Jamo,  and many more.  As I am using them for surrounds my decision was very easy. Firstly  All the  speakers sounded Very good.   But for bang for buck I had to go with the Wharfedale Diamond 9.1. 

As my bose are being repaired I am now using my wharfes as fronts.  Am happy in all respects. One more thing .......  It amazes me how here in the Philippines these speakers are much cheaper than they are abroad.   Am still wondering why?

Sir i would just like to ask for your opinion. My dad was thinking of getting a 301. Do you think a 301 would sound better than warfedale's 9.1?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: avshop on May 18, 2009 at 12:03 PM
selling a pre-owned wharfedale diamond 9.6 rosewood finish for only 14k. intereseted parties can pm me or call me at 216-1948. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: yakisoba on May 25, 2009 at 09:58 PM
I'm just curious I have the following setup: 

DIAMOND 9.1 (front)
              9cs (center)
              9dfs (rear)

I'm planning to add another Rear speaker (using a 7.2 amplifier) will Floorstander speakers be worth it?  I have no more space for the front speakers to be Floorstanders kasi.   
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on May 26, 2009 at 09:37 AM
Hi Yakisoba!

So your setup will be:

Floorstanders (front)
9 cs (center)
9.1 (sides)
9 dfs (rear) ?

Will you be getting floorstanders because you want more sound?  I think you will also have to consider matching of your center and fronts. If you get a 9.6 as fronts, a better match for this would be the cm.  I was thinking if you want a more "engulfed" sound why not just get additional dfs' for your rears and put the current ones you havs as sides (ala theater ;D)?  If budget is not a concern, then go for it. the woofers on the 9.5 and 9.6 supplement very well the .1 you may currently be using ;D

Cheers,

Blackie

p.s.  is it okay to ask waht reciever you'll be getting?  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: avshop on May 26, 2009 at 10:18 AM
I'm just curious I have the following setup: 

DIAMOND 9.1 (front)
              9cs (center)
              9dfs (rear)

I'm planning to add another Rear speaker (using a 7.2 amplifier) will Floorstander speakers be worth it?  I have no more space for the front speakers to be Floorstanders kasi.   

if for surrounds lang just stick to the 9.1.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: yakisoba on May 26, 2009 at 10:43 AM
thanks guys for the tips.  how much na ba 9.1 ngayon?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: pogzz505 on May 26, 2009 at 07:42 PM
tama add ka na lang ng isang pair ng 9.1 for the rear and yung 9dfs para sa surround back..i think nasa 5,500..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jpodvd on Jun 05, 2009 at 09:08 PM
hmmmm... tahimik ang warfedale owners... baket kaya???


malamang "satisfied na"
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: pogzz505 on Jun 06, 2009 at 10:17 AM
hmmmm... tahimik ang warfedale owners... baket kaya???


malamang "satisfied na"

he,he..tama..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chris69ners on Jun 06, 2009 at 10:43 AM
I'm just curious I have the following setup: 

DIAMOND 9.1 (front)
              9cs (center)
              9dfs (rear)

I'm planning to add another Rear speaker (using a 7.2 amplifier) will Floorstander speakers be worth it?  I have no more space for the front speakers to be Floorstanders kasi.   

Baka mejo overkill na pag 9.1 pa surround back speakers. 9sr I think will suffice. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mercury724 on Jun 06, 2009 at 01:54 PM
currently using a 9.1 as my surrounds, ok naman sya for my listening.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: okidokjim on Jun 20, 2009 at 03:52 PM
guys ok lng ba ganitong 7.1 set up:

front = 9.5
center = 9cs
rear = 9dfs
middle sides = 9dfs
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead000 on Jun 20, 2009 at 04:28 PM
guys ok lng ba ganitong 7.1 set up:

front = 9.5
center = 9cs
rear = 9dfs
middle sides = 9dfs

aprub yan.   :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jun 20, 2009 at 04:40 PM
guys ok lng ba ganitong 7.1 set up:

front = 9.5
center = 9cs
rear = 9dfs
middle sides = 9dfs

ako din sir go for it  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: okidokjim on Jun 20, 2009 at 05:08 PM
tnx sa reply. ano po magandang sub para dito? us audio 508a ba ok? o wharfe sw150? mura na ba yung 2nd hand us audio 508a sa 3.7k? tnx guys
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: lmerb on Jun 22, 2009 at 06:03 AM
Any idea how much ang diamond 9.4?

TIA
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: punkrocker on Jun 22, 2009 at 07:43 AM
Got to audition the 9.6 over the weekend. So far I am impressed with its "big" sound and the way it handled every musical frequency with ease. Definitely no need for a subwoofer. This baby can go looooow  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Jun 22, 2009 at 07:48 AM
Nice that you liked the 9.6's punkrocker ;D

Have a pair myself, got a subwoofer too.  Was quite a while before I got a sub to compliment these floorstanders and when I did.....that is a different story to tell ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dips15 on Jun 27, 2009 at 07:44 AM
For those who were already in this hobby when the 9s were released, did prices for the series 8 go down before the 9s were released?

I intend on buying a set of diamond 9s before the 10s are released but am not sure if its better to buy now to ensure stock or to wait a little while longer (especially if stores discount this to make way for the new series).

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: okidokjim on Jun 27, 2009 at 01:20 PM
guys question lng. advisable ba iwall mount ang wharfe 9.1 as  rear surround? makaka apekto ba sa tunog nya yun? may nakaabang naman kasing 2 paglalagyan ng screws sa likod nya e so wala nmng gagalawin sa body nya. tnx
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: pogzz505 on Jun 27, 2009 at 07:51 PM
kung sa rear lang naman no problem sa sound yun..for effects lang naman..
Parang mabigat nga lang tingnan kung wall mount..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Jun 28, 2009 at 05:37 PM
guys question lng. advisable ba iwall mount ang wharfe 9.1 as  rear surround? makaka apekto ba sa tunog nya yun? may nakaabang naman kasing 2 paglalagyan ng screws sa likod nya e so wala nmng gagalawin sa body nya. tnx

Hi okidokjim,

I have a pair of 9.1's which I use for rears.  I put them on speaker stands though.  Pretty happy with that setup.  I believe that there are wall mount stands out there that you can use to wall mount your speakers.  As long as you don't drill new holes, don't think there's a problem using them as rears.

Cheers! ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: okidokjim on Jun 28, 2009 at 09:54 PM
tnx guys sa reply
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: tein on Jul 01, 2009 at 12:33 PM
hi guys what receivers works well with wharfs speakers? onkyo or yamaha? movies, gaming and music.. thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Jul 01, 2009 at 01:54 PM
@Tein

Depends din ata sa preferred sound mo. If you're getting the bigger ones like the 9.6 or the 9.5, and crossing low (or not using a sub) mas maganda for me kung maganda ang damping factor nung receiver/amp. Wire them well with such a receiver amp, kasi may tendency sila magoverhang/ring... which will make things sound boomy and muddy.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mercury724 on Jul 01, 2009 at 02:30 PM
i've recently upgraded my fronts with 9.5s and the sound stage is much better, at first i was having second thoughts of the 9.5 due to some feedback that it sounds muddy or too boomy but i was happy cause i didn't experience that so called muddy or boomy sound from my 9.5s and was able to maximize the 9.5's power with my amps.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: tein on Jul 01, 2009 at 05:11 PM
ito kasi balak ko yun 9.1 lang, kasi masikip sakin yun mga 9.5 eh, then maybe yun 9cs or 9cm for front dont know kung anu diff nila actually kaya gusto ko muna sila ma audition tapos for the rear yun dfs naman, yun sa side surround if ever may budget na mag 7.1 what do you suggest guys? 9.1 din ba sa side?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blued888 on Jul 01, 2009 at 06:06 PM
ito kasi balak ko yun 9.1 lang, kasi masikip sakin yun mga 9.5 eh, then maybe yun 9cs or 9cm for front dont know kung anu diff nila actually kaya gusto ko muna sila ma audition tapos for the rear yun dfs naman, yun sa side surround if ever may budget na mag 7.1 what do you suggest guys? 9.1 din ba sa side?

Pwede na yung 9.CS kapag 9.1 kukunin mo for fronts. Kung 7.1, DFS on the sides and 9.1 on the back.

Magandang dispersed yung nasa gilid, while directional yung galing sa likod. Baka di ganun ka-significant yung improvement in going 7.1 if DFS rin yung sa likod.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead000 on Jul 01, 2009 at 07:38 PM
Pwede na yung 9.CS kapag 9.1 kukunin mo for fronts. Kung 7.1, DFS on the sides and 9.1 on the back.

Magandang dispersed yung nasa gilid, while directional yung galing sa likod. Baka di ganun ka-significant yung improvement in going 7.1 if DFS rin yung sa likod.

+1.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: tein on Jul 01, 2009 at 09:38 PM
thanks again blued big help talaga . 3 days palang ako dito sa pdvd eh may idea na agad ako from suggestions nyo. ty alot!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: tein on Jul 01, 2009 at 09:41 PM
so basically kapag :

7.1 setup
front = wharfedale diamond 9.1
center = wharfedale diamond 9cs
rear = wharfedale diamond 9.1
middle sides = wharfedale diamond 9dfs

5.1 setup

front = wharfedale diamond 9.1
center = wharfedale diamond 9cs
rear = wharfedale diamond 9dfs

tama ba mga sir?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Jul 02, 2009 at 02:07 AM
9.6 gamit ko, pag sa Pioneer receiver ko boomy for me. Pero sa cambridge integrated amp walang problema. Di ko alam kung damping nung amp or talagang ganun lang ang response nung Pioneer (possible).
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mandyb on Jul 10, 2009 at 03:33 AM
i've recently upgraded my fronts with 9.5s and the sound stage is much better, at first i was having second thoughts of the 9.5 due to some feedback that it sounds muddy or too boomy but i was happy cause i didn't experience that so cold muddy or boomy sound from my 9.5s and was able to maximize the 9.5's power with my amps.

Hi i was thinking also of the 9.5s, may i ask which amp are you using for this?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Jul 10, 2009 at 06:49 AM
I think the 9.5/9.6 sounds best with SS amps and valve amps with good damping. The bottom end can sound out of control with other valve amps.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead000 on Jul 10, 2009 at 02:11 PM
i've recently upgraded my fronts with 9.5s and the sound stage is much better, at first i was having second thoughts of the 9.5 due to some feedback that it sounds muddy or too boomy but i was happy cause i didn't experience that so called muddy or boomy sound from my 9.5s and was able to maximize the 9.5's power with my amps.

i really didn't experience any boominess with my 9.5's too. as a perspective, remember that the woofer is crossed over to a low 140hz, much like with some pc subwoofers or htib sub... thus freeing the midbass of LF duties. that's why sometimes even without one, you can get a feel of the benefit of stereo subs just with the 9.5. of course they really won't go to the depths of a proper sub, but can approximate it to some extent.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mercury724 on Jul 10, 2009 at 10:44 PM
so basically kapag :

7.1 setup
front = wharfedale diamond 9.1
center = wharfedale diamond 9cs
rear = wharfedale diamond 9.1
middle sides = wharfedale diamond 9dfs

5.1 setup

front = wharfedale diamond 9.1
center = wharfedale diamond 9cs
rear = wharfedale diamond 9dfs

tama ba mga sir?
sir how big is your room? if its not that big naman i suggest go for the 5.1 setup, mas ma-appreciate mo & just get a beefier amp to drive these babies ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Jul 13, 2009 at 09:48 AM
hi guys what receivers works well with wharfs speakers? onkyo or yamaha? movies, gaming and music.. thanks
Pretty happy with the Denon Wharfe combo ;) Primarily use it for HT and Music ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: punkrocker on Jul 13, 2009 at 01:13 PM
I'd avoid the 9.5/9.6 with tube amps because they can get boomy and muddy. The lows can get distorted as well although the lack of power from entry level tube amps can be attributed from it.

Basing from what I've heard, these floorstanders have no major problem when paired with Solid State amps.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: tein on Jul 25, 2009 at 02:10 PM
thanks guys for your comments and suggestions.. will be starting na sa august and will surely take note on your suggestions guys, cheers!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Jul 29, 2009 at 04:33 AM
May Diamond 9.0 ba locally? I haven't seen it around. Might work well as desktop speaks kasi. :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Jul 29, 2009 at 07:26 AM
Think I saw a set at Sights and Sounds Shangri La.  Call them to be sure 6341789 ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Jul 29, 2009 at 02:44 PM
Think I saw a set at Sights and Sounds Shangri La.  Call them to be sure 6341789 ;)

Thanks Blackie. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Jul 30, 2009 at 11:35 AM
any news on the diamond 10?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: berdilot™ on Aug 19, 2009 at 09:26 AM
lumabas na nga ba yung diamond 10?
 ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: saladmaster on Aug 19, 2009 at 02:29 PM
mga repa! balak ko sana bumili ng speaker for our training room. gagamitin sa audio (vocal) like presentation at medyo me music ng konti. do you think the 9.3 or the 9CM eh ok na?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: razzahsleb on Aug 20, 2009 at 04:15 PM

Ang guwapo... though the rim reminds me of '90s karaoke speakers... ;D ;D ;D

FYI lang po from the their site.

http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/Products/ProductSeries/tabid/77/PID/166/language/en-GB/Default.aspx (http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/Products/ProductSeries/tabid/77/PID/166/language/en-GB/Default.aspx)

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g194/razzahsleb/Diamond10_Comp.jpg)
(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g194/razzahsleb/Diamond_10_RANGE1_comp.jpg)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: My_einjels on Aug 22, 2009 at 02:48 PM
Hello po fellow wharfe 9 user! Ask ko lang po if may naka encounter napo sa inyo na may some small wood eating insec (bukbok) woried po kc ako sa mga box ng wharfe ko. Does the manufacturer dont treat the wood with some anti insec chemical? Anu po kya maganda solution regarding my problem? TIA guys!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: johnrider999 on Aug 23, 2009 at 12:56 PM
Ang ganda pala ng diamond 10 series....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: DonT on Aug 23, 2009 at 01:05 PM
Looks like hindi na front firing yung baffle ng 10.1 unlike sa 9.1. Bakit kaya? I think all of them ganun na ang design.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Aug 25, 2009 at 09:43 AM
Compared with the 9.1, the 10.1's woofer is slightly smaller, and the ports were moved to the rear.

The bass sounds different, according to an avsforum member: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=17051938
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LoBudget on Aug 25, 2009 at 10:58 AM
Hello po fellow wharfe 9 user! Ask ko lang po if may naka encounter napo sa inyo na may some small wood eating insec (bukbok) woried po kc ako sa mga box ng wharfe ko. Does the manufacturer dont treat the wood with some anti insec chemical? Anu po kya maganda solution regarding my problem? TIA guys!


I think they do. I got termites on mine before and they dint harm the wood at all! they just stayed on the outside and made their mud tunnel. Cant remember if the finish got any marks but definitely the speakers were not compromised at all when I wiped off the mud. Thats for the older series of wharfes, so im sure the newer ones are the same if not better.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: My_einjels on Aug 25, 2009 at 02:51 PM
Hi sir lobuget! I saw some very small holes on the eage of the box of my diamond 9cm and some small insec crawling, may be that wat we call bukbok,  i also remove the cover grill and saw some of them. Guys what shall do?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LoBudget on Aug 26, 2009 at 10:20 AM
When you say box, you mean the container it shipped in right?  Or by box you mean the actual wood? if you mean the wood then there is very little you can do as they have already compromised the unit. If you mean just the box it shipped in, no big deal. Just buy a new container. If your whafe shipped like mine it should have a plastic inside that wrapped around the speaker. In my case the mistake was whomever were the "gifted" individuals in my home that put my speakers on the floor decided to put it open end of the plastic bag down.

Either way, hook up your gear and turn it on pretty loud see if it sounds different. At the very least you'll upset the bugs and maybe they'll leave.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead000 on Aug 26, 2009 at 11:06 AM
in my case, iba yung na-compromise. yung vinyl wrap sa top eh nagka-lukot lukot. i placed some sort of a plastic placemat to protect it yun pa pala ang makakasira. mukhang me chemical component yung plastic na naka-affect sa wrapping.  >:(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Aug 26, 2009 at 01:43 PM
in my case, iba yung na-compromise. yung vinyl wrap sa top eh nagka-lukot lukot. i placed some sort of a plastic placemat to protect it yun pa pala ang makakasira. mukhang me chemical component yung plastic na naka-affect sa wrapping.  >:(

Aray :'(

This is ot, but isn't this the placemat like material that claims to be a non slip material?  Ruined the dashboard of an old car because of this when I put it on the dashboard.  So, just a friendly tip, watch out for this material.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: John E. on Aug 26, 2009 at 05:53 PM
same thing happened to the sub of my HTIB  :D nilagyan ko ng ganyan para non-skid and pinatungan ko ng telepono but the material partly sticked and just ruined the top of the sub.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ramgos on Aug 26, 2009 at 11:32 PM
I have a Daimond 9.5, 9cs, 9 dfs setup. and I am planning to buy an entry level receiver. I am choosing between the Yamaha 465, Denon 1610, HK AVR155.

Any suggestions mga sirs?  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: My_einjels on Aug 27, 2009 at 02:15 PM
When you say box, you mean the container it shipped in right?  Or by box you mean the actual wood? if you mean the wood then there is very little you can do as they have already compromised the unit. If you mean just the box it shipped in, no big deal. Just buy a new container. If your whafe shipped like mine it should have a plastic inside that wrapped around the speaker. In my case the mistake was whomever were the "gifted" individuals in my home that put my speakers on the floor decided to put it open end of the plastic bag down.

Either way, hook up your gear and turn it on pretty loud see if it sounds different. At the very least you'll upset the bugs and maybe they'll leave.
the baffle po itself ang may bukbok, any chemical i can apply? I know di po pwede ung water base sa type na wood ng box. Wala naman po prob sa a q, but im worried na dumami mga insect and ma compromise quality ng baffle. TIA
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: My_einjels on Aug 27, 2009 at 02:31 PM
I have a Daimond 9.5, 9cs, 9 dfs setup. and I am planning to buy an entry level receiver. I am choosing between the Yamaha 465, Denon 1610, HK AVR155.

Any suggestions mga sirs?  ;D

Hi sir! Many of our fellas here use yamaha avr to there wharfe, may pagka backward sounding po kc ang wharfe to acomodate it, may pagka bright naman po sounding ng yammy so match po cla. Go for the mid level avr sir sayang naman po wharfe nyo. Im using onkyo 602, wharfe dia 9.4, cm, dfs, which they say di po gaano match buy ok naman po ung a q ng set up ko, i just tweak the eq of my avr. Regards sir.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: AlvinladeN on Aug 28, 2009 at 09:22 AM
yung kevlar ng diamond 9.1 ko nagkaron ng punit. san kaya ako makakabili ng replacement na kevlar?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: AlvinladeN on Sep 18, 2009 at 10:27 AM
(http://img34.imageshack.us/i/img2926f.jpg/)

really need help on this. is the kevlar replaceable/repairable?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: AlvinladeN on Sep 19, 2009 at 12:33 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/alvinladen/IMG_2926.jpg)


benta ko na lang kung di na repairable.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iiinas on Sep 19, 2009 at 01:25 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/alvinladen/IMG_2926.jpg)


benta ko na lang kung di na repairable.

i recommend you have the speaker fix by the speaker doctor. he has a sticky thread on this section or you could also try diy_master.

if the speaker is still under warranty, then bring it back to the shop you bought it from, if not. i think the two persons i recommend could easily resurrect your wharfes.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: AlvinladeN on Sep 19, 2009 at 01:33 PM
thanks! i hope pwede pa.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dips15 on Sep 19, 2009 at 10:40 PM
Saw the 9.1 anniversary edition today at Spectra.  Ganda.  Unfortunately, naka-reserve na raw stocks nila.  Wasn't able to ask about the price though.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: avshop on Sep 20, 2009 at 04:15 PM
Saw the 9.1 anniversary edition today at Spectra.  Ganda.  Unfortunately, naka-reserve na raw stocks nila.  Wasn't able to ask about the price though.

i have 2 pairs of the 9.1 anniversary edition available for 8.6k a pair. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead000 on Sep 23, 2009 at 03:17 PM
for those who may want to hold for a while on an upgrade for their diamond 9's,
here's some update on my mods for the 9.5 and the 9.cs. well, we could only do
the caps since we really don't have the values for the coils, and i don't have any
access to non-inductive resistors. here's the 9.5 modded crossover:

(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2968/dsc5496copy.jpg)

here's the schematic diagram for the full d9.5 crossover circuit.

(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1936/diamond95xover.gif)

highlighted items are the ones that can be modded much more easily. you can just
replace the electrolytic capacitors with the same value MKP's, or change them up
or down by a few microfarads. changing 6.8uf lower shifts the x'over frequency for
the tweeter higher, e.g. from 2.2khz to a higher freq.

you can also bypass the resistor for added HF loudness or just lower its value to
1.0-1.2 Ohms to retain some tweeter protection.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead000 on Sep 24, 2009 at 04:11 PM
and here's the original (non-modded) crossover board for the diamond 9.cs. i
forgot to get a picture of the modded one. will do that when i got the chance to
open the box again.

(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/2971/dsc5500copy.jpg)

as i stated on the link below, the original caps are way off their indicated values.
as for the result of the modifications: most of us have the impression that these
speakers are diamonds on the rough. their HF response might be a bit too laid back
for some. in that regard, i could say it really has opened up just right.

here's the full circuit diagram for the diamond 9.cs:

(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9439/diamond9csxover.gif)

more here: Diamond 9.CS/9.5 Speaker Modifications (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=38774.msg1065816#msg1065816)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: John E. on Sep 25, 2009 at 04:40 AM
i have 2 pairs of the 9.1 anniversary edition available for 8.6k a pair. :)

wow i really want this! sana meron pa nito by december.

and what a time to come kasabay pa ng 10 series ;D

bty has anyone compared the 9 series with the 10? malaki ba ang sound difference?

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: John E. on Sep 25, 2009 at 04:44 AM
i recommend you have the speaker fix by the speaker doctor. he has a sticky thread on this section or you could also try diy_master.

if the speaker is still under warranty, then bring it back to the shop you bought it from, if not. i think the two persons i recommend could easily resurrect your wharfes.

here's the link pointed out by our kagawad http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=33445.420  :)

from his first page...

"We are offering quality speaker repair and other speaker related services.  (Hindi ito katulad ng mga repairs sa RAON).  Audio quality is as good as original.  Please see the rates below. 

Our address is 1241 Lopez Jaena St. Paco, Manila (Landmarks: Jollibee Paco, Paco Church and Paco Catholic School, Mercury Drug & 7-11).

PS - Please click address for map.

Thank you.

Here are the rates per speaker:

Foam Edge/Suspension Replacement

4 inches - Php 250
5 inches - Php 300
6 inches - Php 350
8 inches - Php 400
10 inches - Php 450
12 inches - Php 600
15 inches - Php 700

Rubber Edge/Suspension Replacement

4 inches - Php 350
5 inches - Php 400
6 inches - Php 450
8 inches - Php 500
10 inches - Php 550
12 inches - Php 700
15 inches - Php 800


Voice Coil Rewinding

Tweeter, Dome type - Php 350
Tweeter, Cone type - Php 400
Woofer, 4 inches (2 layers) - Php 400
Woofer, 4 inches (4 layers) - Php 450
Woofer, 6 inches (2 layers) - Php 500
Woofer, 6 inches (4 layers) - Php 550
Woofer, 8 inches (2 layers) - Php 550
Woofer, 8 inches (4 layers) - Php 600
Woofer, 10 inches (2 layers) - Php 650
Woofer, 10 inches (4 layers) - Php 700
Woofer, 12 inches (2 layers) - Php 750
Woofer, 12 inches (4 layers) - Php 800
Woofer, 15 inches (2 layers) - Php 900
Woofer, 15 inches (4 layers) - Php 950[/b]


Other services offered:


Cone, Pigtail, Spider & Dust cover replacement

Rewiring

Centering

Terminal Replacement

Customized Dividing Network

Audio/Video Equipment Repair


For inquiries please contact:

Benedict
0921-7224138"

baka nga lang hindi na updated prices.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wunder9 on Oct 14, 2009 at 01:16 AM
New owner Diamond 9.5 ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: John E. on Oct 14, 2009 at 07:41 AM
New owner Diamond 9.5 ;D

congrats sir! sulit na sulit ang 9.5!

how much na nga ba ang 9.5 ngyun?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Oct 14, 2009 at 07:53 AM
New owner Diamond 9.5 ;D
Congrats!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wunder9 on Oct 14, 2009 at 07:55 AM
congrats sir! sulit na sulit ang 9.5!

how much na nga ba ang 9.5 ngyun?

Retails at 11k net. But got mine (new w/out box) at 8k only. Rosewood finish.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: John E. on Oct 14, 2009 at 08:10 AM
Retails at 11k net. But got mine (new w/out box) at 8k only. Rosewood finish.

thanks sir! sulit talaga  ;D what amp are you pairing it with sir?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wunder9 on Oct 14, 2009 at 08:17 AM
thanks sir! sulit talaga  ;D what amp are you pairing it with sir?

An unused Pioneer A307R integrated bought several yrs ago.  I thought sayang the amp if left in storage lang.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JayR1129 on Oct 14, 2009 at 05:33 PM
Retails at 11k net. But got mine (new w/out box) at 8k only. Rosewood finish.
Wow... :o san shop nyo sir nbili yng best buy na 9.5?  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: babed95 on Oct 20, 2009 at 09:46 AM
Retails at 11k net. But got mine (new w/out box) at 8k only. Rosewood finish.
oo nga sir san shop nyo nabili yan? me black ba?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Oct 20, 2009 at 06:24 PM
Lumabas na ang Diamond 10s di ba...

Bumaba pa kaya ang price 9 series...?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Oct 23, 2009 at 02:56 AM
I have a Daimond 9.5, 9cs, 9 dfs setup. and I am planning to buy an entry level receiver. I am choosing between the Yamaha 465, Denon 1610, HK AVR155.

Any suggestions mga sirs?  ;D

IMHO, wharfs are hard to drive speakers, you need strong amp to make it sing. As for me, i use HK receiver to drive my 9.4 and im satisfied with it. but thats just me... ;) thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 23, 2009 at 03:11 AM
maybe late of a reply but will share anyway. Im have a full set 5.1 9 series. Before im using my 9.5 as fronts with ONKYO 606 but when i got the NAD 325BEE i used 9.1 as fronts fro the ONKYO and the 9.5 for the NAD. Im not an audio expert but Im enjoying the NAD /9.5 combi gustong gusto ko yung vocals and yung low swabeng swabe para sa akin
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead000 on Oct 23, 2009 at 01:54 PM
maybe late of a reply but will share anyway. Im have a full set 5.1 9 series. Before im using my 9.5 as fronts with ONKYO 606 but when i got the NAD 325BEE i used 9.1 as fronts fro the ONKYO and the 9.5 for the NAD. Im not an audio expert but Im enjoying the NAD /9.5 combi gustong gusto ko yung vocals and yung low swabeng swabe para sa akin

+5.   ;D  (especially if you can tweak the crossover capacitors and resistor. see above).  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 24, 2009 at 09:41 PM
salamat po gearhead. sir rene and john e have been giving a lot of pointers. kanina ang dami tips ni joihn e kaya lang medyo takot ako mag tweaks na may involved na bukas baklas. i normally sell din kase yung mga gamit pag may extra money na although i try ko yung advise ni john e na palitan yung jumper cables. salamat [po ulit.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Oct 25, 2009 at 02:30 PM
Opinion ko lang about the 9 series after owning them for sometime:

I have 3 pairs of 9.3s, 1 pair of 9.4, and 1 9.cm for my home theat, and 1 pair of 9.6 for my room hifi system. I think the entire lineup is an awesome value.

I like the 9.6 the most in this bunch. They don't image very well, but they produce a smooth and pleasing sound. As long as they're far from walls, they don't sound boomy. They're very happy running full range, but also integrate well with a separate sub if preferred (cross them low to get the most directional effect). This set injects obvious coloration and don't reveal much sonic detail, but is inoffensive and works great for background music or extended listening. I'm not sure if they really qualify as high fidelity, but they are very pleasant partners.

The 9.3 is ok for HT and for common music genres, but they benefit much from a sub taking over the last octave. Without a sub, they still play a wider range than most other bookshelves (and even some towers) but they do sound clearer with the woofer not doing the extreme lows - especially at higher volumes. I think they represent excellent value, as they sound quite big yet cost quite little. I like the fact that they roll-off smoothly in the lower registers, versus other bookshelves that put an obvious bump in the midbass to compensate for the lack of extreme lows. The 9.1 sings lovelier in the upper registers versus the 9.3, but they seem to inject that bump in the lows - plus I prefer crossing speakers lower.

The 9.4 is a nice looking compact tower set, but they really sound more like bookshelves on stands. There's nothing drastically wrong with them, as long as you look at them as bigger bookshelves. I do like them over the 9.5, which I also considered to get. I'm not sure if it was just room acoustics, but the 9.5 seemed to put emphasis on the 50-100Hz region. That made it sound undefined for me, but I'm sure many people would appreciate the punch. Ironically, the 9.5 sounds bassier than the 9.6 despite the size difference; the 9.6 is just able to play lower.

The 9.cm does center channel duty quite well, but sounds a little confused. It's big but it rolls off early. Despite the size, it prefers being crossed higher (80Hz or so). I like the dome mid (which seems to be the same unit in the 9.6), but the voices don't sound as "full" as they do in the 9.6 (or even the 9.3). I had to EQ the center channel a bit to get the chest and vocal texture that I wanted. I wish they made a bigger enclosure for the 6.5in drivers to get that out of the way (maybe they can concote 8" ones with a big box in the future).

The 10 series looks promising, but I hope they didn't drop the 8" woofers. The Opus series is still too costly hehehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gob on Dec 08, 2009 at 09:18 PM
I also owned a diamond 9.1 match with dared mp5.  For me it sounds great specially for vocals & jazz music.  Just wondering if the diamond 9.5 & 9.6 take most low watts amp???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead000 on Dec 08, 2009 at 11:14 PM

xxxx, but the 9.5 seemed to put emphasis on the 50-100Hz region. That made it sound undefined for me, but I'm sure many people would appreciate the punch. Ironically, the 9.5 sounds bassier than the 9.6 despite the size difference; the 9.6 is just able to play lower.

i agree with most u said from the rest of the quote, but i agree most on the above. as i've said, the 9.6 bass is probably more musical, the 9.5 has more slam.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Dec 09, 2009 at 02:00 AM
I also owned a diamond 9.1 match with dared mp5.  For me it sounds great specially for vocals & jazz music.  Just wondering if the diamond 9.5 & 9.6 take most low watts amp???

The 9.6 does not reveal much at lower volumes, so it's not suited for low power amps imho. The 9.3 might be as big as I'd go with an MP5.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: GioSpike on Dec 14, 2009 at 10:29 PM
I need a wall mount bracket for a pair of Wharfedale Diamond 9.1.  6cm yung gap between the centerc of the mounting holes.

(http://i49.tinypic.com/281bz39.jpg)

I already called SnS, Theaterworks and Listening Room, wala daw sila.

Do you know where I could purchase this?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blued888 on Dec 14, 2009 at 11:20 PM
http://www.omnimount.com/Products/Speaker_Mounts/Stainless_Steel_Series/

Baka pwede mo order through TOY 01. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 14, 2009 at 11:31 PM
I need a wall mount bracket for a pair of Wharfedale Diamond 9.1.  6cm yung gap between the centerc of the mounting holes.

(http://i49.tinypic.com/281bz39.jpg)

I already called SnS, Theaterworks and Listening Room, wala daw sila.

Do you know where I could purchase this?


go to ace hardware perfectview has hangers that may match this. ace hardwares are usually inside sm malls
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jheyzon on Dec 15, 2009 at 08:57 AM
maganda kayang match ang 9.1/9.5 sa denon 1610?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Dec 15, 2009 at 10:00 AM
Does wharfdale has service center here in manila? please let me know. thanks  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: insomniac0623 on Dec 21, 2009 at 10:48 PM
mga chief, question po.  i have a 9.1 hooked up on an onkyo307.  i'm thinking of getting a 9cm and 9.6, ok po ba ang ganitong setup? also thought of getting the 10.5, 10cm pero i read somewhere na better kung same series? thanks in advance for the inputs!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Dec 22, 2009 at 04:35 AM
mga chief, question po.  i have a 9.1 hooked up on an onkyo307.  i'm thinking of getting a 9cm and 9.6, ok po ba ang ganitong setup? also thought of getting the 10.5, 10cm pero i read somewhere na better kung same series? thanks in advance for the inputs!

Gawin mo na lang rear yung 9.1 bro. You can cross the 9.6 lower if you want to, pero the 9.cm doesn't play very low so manipis ang tunog if you cross it low (unless you plan to EQ).

@Hebrew
Zamony Venture ata distro ng Wharfedale dito. Try calling 852-6706 or 852-0033.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: insomniac0623 on Dec 22, 2009 at 09:30 AM
Gawin mo na lang rear yung 9.1 bro. You can cross the 9.6 lower if you want to, pero the 9.cm doesn't play very low so manipis ang tunog if you cross it low (unless you plan to EQ).

thanks stagea! sorry pero sobrang newbie ko talaga, what does it mean when you say cross it lower?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Dec 22, 2009 at 10:04 AM
mga chief, question po.  i have a 9.1 hooked up on an onkyo307.  i'm thinking of getting a 9cm and 9.6, ok po ba ang ganitong setup? also thought of getting the 10.5, 10cm pero i read somewhere na better kung same series? thanks in advance for the inputs!
Would suggest you concern yourself with front and center match.  Then work from there. Are you getting the 9.6 and CM as upgrades? to complete your system?  what current surround speakers do you use? 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Dec 22, 2009 at 10:35 AM
@Hebrew
Zamony Venture ata distro ng Wharfedale dito. Try calling 852-6706 or 852-0033.

thanks sir!  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: insomniac0623 on Dec 22, 2009 at 02:34 PM
Would suggest you concern yourself with front and center match.  Then work from there. Are you getting the 9.6 and CM as upgrades? to complete your system?  what current surround speakers do you use? 

i was planning to gte the 9.6 and 9cm to complete my system.  for now i only have a 9.1
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Dec 22, 2009 at 04:59 PM
i was planning to gte the 9.6 and 9cm to complete my system.  for now i only have a 9.1
I have the 9.6 as fronts, 9.1's as rears and a 9cm as a center, matched with a Denon.  One very satisfied customer here.  If you live in the Quezon City area, let me know so you can audition before you purchase if you like ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: insomniac0623 on Dec 22, 2009 at 08:16 PM
I have the 9.6 as fronts, 9.1's as rears and a 9cm as a center, matched with a Denon.  One very satisfied customer here.  If you live in the Quezon City area, let me know so you can audition before you purchase if you like ;D

noted! pm kita sir pag mapadpad ako ng QC. thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Dec 23, 2009 at 02:05 AM
thanks stagea! sorry pero sobrang newbie ko talaga, what does it mean when you say cross it lower?

Sa bass management yan ng receiver mo, diyan mo i-set kung san frequency yung crossover between yung speaker and the sub. You'd probably be using 80Hz-ish for the 9.1 and the 9.cm to maintain a smooth transition, whilst the 9.6 can work very well with 50Hz-ish (if your receiver supports it). Experiment na rin to let your ears be the judge.

I use 2 9.3 pairs for surrounds, 9.6 pair for fronts, and 9.cm for center.


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: insomniac0623 on Dec 23, 2009 at 07:59 PM
Sa bass management yan ng receiver mo, diyan mo i-set kung san frequency yung crossover between yung speaker and the sub. You'd probably be using 80Hz-ish for the 9.1 and the 9.cm to maintain a smooth transition, whilst the 9.6 can work very well with 50Hz-ish (if your receiver supports it). Experiment na rin to let your ears be the judge.
I use 2 9.3 pairs for surrounds, 9.6 pair for fronts, and 9.cm for center.

ah i see now. thanks for the inputs sir! much appreciated. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: volrathj on Dec 27, 2009 at 10:18 AM
Hi Guys I bought the Wharfedale diamond 9.5 and kapag nagplay ako ng movie or music with deep bass the left speaker's bass rattles, while the other right speaker doesn't. The bass level of the 9.5's are set to +4 and Im using onkyo txsr607. Pero sa tingin ko there is something wrong with the left speaker kasi kung wala dapat pati yung right speaker may rattling sound din and hindi pa naman nakatodo yung volume ng receiver which is 48 palang. So what I did is call the vendor and they said that they will replace the speakers since ilang days palang nagagamit e nasira na or its factory defective.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: pogzz505 on Dec 28, 2009 at 09:12 AM
factory defect yan..yung 9.1 ko may defect din pinalitan agad sa Sights & Sounds
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: volrathj on Dec 28, 2009 at 03:36 PM
Talaga ako sa Listening style bumili buti, papalitan nia
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: praktikal on Dec 28, 2009 at 05:27 PM
Hi Guys I bought the Wharfedale diamond 9.5 and kapag nagplay ako ng movie or music with deep bass the left speaker's bass rattles, while the other right speaker doesn't. The bass level of the 9.5's are set to +4 and Im using onkyo txsr607. Pero sa tingin ko there is something wrong with the left speaker kasi kung wala dapat pati yung right speaker may rattling sound din and hindi pa naman nakatodo yung volume ng receiver which is 48 palang. So what I did is call the vendor and they said that they will replace the speakers since ilang days palang nagagamit e nasira na or its factory defective.

nasubukan mo bang pagpalitin ang speakers?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: volrathj on Dec 28, 2009 at 06:40 PM
Hindi ko pa natry pagpalitin yung speakers thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mykel18 on Dec 30, 2009 at 07:23 AM
did u bring both of ur speakers for replacement or just the one with the rattling sound. been experiencing this also with my 9.3, bought late november or early december. what do you think should i do?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: volrathj on Jan 04, 2010 at 09:26 PM
No I did not bring it, the supplier will come to our house and replace it. Kung in warranty pa yan try mo contacting yung supplier baka palitan pa nila.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Jan 05, 2010 at 03:18 AM
Actually ako naman may na-experience na 9.6 na tumatagas sa labi yung hangin. Ramdam mo at higher volumes na humihinga yung kahon. Hindi properly seated sa enclosure yung plate ng dome mid at tweet. Inayos ko na lang.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dj on Feb 07, 2010 at 05:59 PM
Hi Guys I bought the Wharfedale diamond 9.5 and kapag nagplay ako ng movie or music with deep bass the left speaker's bass rattles, while the other right speaker doesn't. The bass level of the 9.5's are set to +4 and Im using onkyo txsr607. Pero sa tingin ko there is something wrong with the left speaker kasi kung wala dapat pati yung right speaker may rattling sound din and hindi pa naman nakatodo yung volume ng receiver which is 48 palang. So what I did is call the vendor and they said that they will replace the speakers since ilang days palang nagagamit e nasira na or its factory defective.

in my experience magaling after sales service ng wharf dito sa atin! cheers to all wharf owners ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: volrathj on Feb 09, 2010 at 10:14 PM
Hello mga sir patulong po. Anong maganda frequency para iset sa mga speakers ko. I'm using onkyo txsr 607, wharfedale diamond 9.5 as fronts, 9cs as center and 9.1 as surround? Thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wacksy1021 on Feb 23, 2010 at 08:13 PM
Newbie question po. If I have an existing Kenwood KRF V6070D and planning to purchase wharfes 9.1 and 9cs will the speakers function properly and be driven by my amp with no problems. ( I still have no funds for amp upgrade since I am just starting   hehe)

using my newbie mind it seems everything will be ok since the reciever is 6.1 at 100W per channel and the speakers are 100w also. but reading through this thread it seems the wharfes need a stronger amp to fully drive the said speakers and that worries me.

Lastly, will be replacing the 9.1 eventually with 9.5s and use the existing 9.1 as rears in the near future. With this new set up will the amp stil be sufficient enough to drive all of these.

As always your help are always appreciated sirs. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: John E. on Feb 26, 2010 at 03:37 AM
Hello mga sir patulong po. Anong maganda frequency para iset sa mga speakers ko. I'm using onkyo txsr 607, wharfedale diamond 9.5 as fronts, 9cs as center and 9.1 as surround? Thanks

this may help sir.

the onkyo tx-sr607 already has the audseyy room correction feature.

"The Onkyo TX-SR607's Audyssey 2EQ automatic speaker calibration system uses a microphone to analyze the speakers' and subwoofer's sound from three listening positions in your room. The Audyssey 2EQ checks the wiring polarity for each speaker, adjusts each channel's volume level and time delay setting, determines the speaker "sizes," and subwoofer crossover settings. The Audyssey 2EQ also provides equalization corrections to the speakers."

http://reviews.cnet.com/av-receivers/onkyo-tx-sr607-black/4505-6466_7-33553470.html
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: John E. on Feb 26, 2010 at 03:58 AM
Newbie question po. If I have an existing Kenwood KRF V6070D and planning to purchase wharfes 9.1 and 9cs will the speakers function properly and be driven by my amp with no problems. ( I still have no funds for amp upgrade since I am just starting   hehe)

using my newbie mind it seems everything will be ok since the reciever is 6.1 at 100W per channel and the speakers are 100w also. but reading through this thread it seems the wharfes need a stronger amp to fully drive the said speakers and that worries me.

Lastly, will be replacing the 9.1 eventually with 9.5s and use the existing 9.1 as rears in the near future. With this new set up will the amp stil be sufficient enough to drive all of these.

As always your help are always appreciated sirs. Thanks in advance.

i was trying to look for specs on the net on the said amp but can't seem to find enough information on it.

however, some of the lower onkyo and denon receivers are only rated 75wpc but can drive the 9.1 decently. if it really is 100wpc then it can properly power your wharfes.

imho, speakers with lower sensitivity may always need a more powerful amp to drive them properly and for them to sound good.

i honestly don't think that your existing amp can drive the 9.5, 9.1 and 9cs to it's potential. the 9.5's are 88dB sensitive and may need more juice for it to maximize the sound quality. why not just save up for a better amplifier with more features. going the speaker route upgrade first may not bring out the best qualities of your speakers as bigger speakers does'nt always mean it would sound better ;)  as you will need a sufficient amp to drive them.

maybe considering getting a better receiver as an upgrade can open up your existing speakers and bring out a better SQ for your wharfedale 9.1.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mercury724 on Feb 26, 2010 at 11:24 AM
i was trying to look for specs on the net on the said amp but can't seem to find enough information on it.

however, some of the lower onkyo and denon receivers are only rated 75wpc but can drive the 9.1 decently. if it really is 100wpc then it can properly power your wharfes.

imho, speakers with lower sensitivity may always need a more powerful amp to drive them properly and for them to sound good.

i honestly don't think that your existing amp can drive the 9.5, 9.1 and 9cs to it's potential. the 9.5's are 88dB sensitive and may need more juice for it to maximize the sound quality. why not just save up for a better amplifier with more features. going the speaker route upgrade first may not bring out the best qualities of your speakers as bigger speakers does'nt always mean it would sound better ;)  as you will need a sufficient amp to drive them.

maybe considering getting a better receiver as an upgrade can open up your existing speakers and bring out a better SQ for your wharfedale 9.1.


i agree with sir JohnE. with this one, wharfedale speakers are harder to drive and you'll need a beefier amp to be able to maximize them. If you could bi-amp the 9.5 or 9.6 the better, some AV receivers have this features which i find it would really bring out the SQ of this speakers.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: SETSUT on May 30, 2010 at 09:33 AM
Mga brader magkano na po wharf 9.5 nowadays? Saan po pinakamura bumili nito? TIA.. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: juantotre on Jun 02, 2010 at 09:06 PM
sirs newbie here. looking for rear speakers that i can wall mount. how much po yung 9.1? ok ba sya gamitin for rear speaker? thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: volrathj on Jun 03, 2010 at 10:47 PM
sirs newbie here. looking for rear speakers that i can wall mount. how much po yung 9.1? ok ba sya gamitin for rear speaker? thanks!

The best ang 9.1. Kaya lang hindi ito pang wall mount. This cost 5000 pesos. Yung DFS ang pang wall mount.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: juantotre on Jun 04, 2010 at 09:25 AM
magkano po yung dfs?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Jun 04, 2010 at 11:16 AM
You need a bracket (usually articulated) if you want to wallmount the 9.1.

The 9.sr / 10.sr and 9.dfs /10.dfs are readily wall-mountable. :) Contact AVShop for pricing.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shainoy on Jun 23, 2010 at 06:11 PM
Mga sir, will a Yamaha RXv 340 be enough to drive a wharf 9.1 as fronts, a diamond 8 ctr and a wh2 for surround. What could i do to enjoy a good sq with this kind of setup? I have a sub.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: PLiSKiN on Jun 29, 2010 at 11:18 PM
mga sir, san po ba nakakabili ng spike ng 9.4?  lumipat kc kami bahay, nagyon i-setup ko na nawawala na ung mga spikes

tia!
-PLiSKiN
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Jul 01, 2010 at 05:47 AM
Mga sir, will a Yamaha RXv 340 be enough to drive a wharf 9.1 as fronts, a diamond 8 ctr and a wh2 for surround. What could i do to enjoy a good sq with this kind of setup? I have a sub.

Diamond 9s are fairly easy to drive. Any mass market AV receiver can power it to enjoyable levels, as long as the listening area isn't too big.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: AlvinladeN on Jul 04, 2010 at 08:00 AM
Mga sir, will a Yamaha RXv 340 be enough to drive a wharf 9.1 as fronts, a diamond 8 ctr and a wh2 for surround. What could i do to enjoy a good sq with this kind of setup? I have a sub.

9.1s and WH-2s are powered by my Yamaha RX-V457. Im not sure if its properly driven but it sounds good to me.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shainoy on Jul 05, 2010 at 07:59 PM
9.1s and WH-2s are powered by my Yamaha RX-V457. Im not sure if its properly driven but it sounds good to me.
Sir, ok naman sa movies i enjoy the setup kaya lang pagmusic na parang bitin sa treble pag tweak ko yong tone control para namang bibigay tweeters ko. Solution daw is to replace the fronts with a polk or wharfs 10 series which are brighter (According to avshop). Is this true?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Jul 05, 2010 at 08:35 PM
I'm not so sure about the Diamond 10, but the TSi and RTi lines of Polk Audio reproduce significantly more treble.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: AlvinladeN on Jul 06, 2010 at 08:08 AM
Sir, ok naman sa movies i enjoy the setup kaya lang pagmusic na parang bitin sa treble pag tweak ko yong tone control para namang bibigay tweeters ko. Solution daw is to replace the fronts with a polk or wharfs 10 series which are brighter (According to avshop). Is this true?

same here, parang bitin nga sa music ang wharf 9.1 and yamaha avr combo.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: marlboro on Jul 06, 2010 at 08:18 AM
same sentiments here, but im using diamond 8.1 sa front and wh2 center and surround. medyo bitin nga sya kung pang audio. parang kulang sya sa midbass to lo. pero syempre what could we expect, maliit lang yun driver nya, plus ang baba ng sensitivity. I suggest to use a more powerful amp to bring out to its full potential. IMO. :-\

pero kung pang movies naman, sakto lang sakin.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: AlvinladeN on Jul 06, 2010 at 08:28 AM
^yamaha din receiver mo?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: marlboro on Jul 06, 2010 at 08:39 AM
yep. rxv459 90wrms per channel. if you really want it to use sa audio, try powering it with atleast 120-150wrms. then, you'll hear the difference.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shainoy on Jul 06, 2010 at 09:31 AM
Mga sir, The gurus say the yamahas are bright sounding, Probably tama si Marlboro we have to up our Amps or siguro change the wharfs 8 or 9 series. Anyway avshop invited me for an audition using my reciever (with a wharf 10 series and polk to compare daw the difference with my existing setup).

Kayo Mga sir, What do you think, up natin amps (or replace it) or just change our wharfs (fronts)?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 06, 2010 at 10:10 AM
Even if you find a good match for your amp, it doesn't mean it will sound the same once you're in your room. How about a dedicated 2ch amp?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Jul 06, 2010 at 01:06 PM
It's hard to beat a dedicated audio system for music.

As for the Diamond 9 series, I think the 9.3 does best for music (it doesn't have the boomy sound of the 9.1 and the 9.5). The 9.6 can also work well if you have enough power on tap (the only time I've heard the 9.6 sing well was when it was hooked up to a power amp).
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: marlboro on Jul 06, 2010 at 06:24 PM
for me the best way is to have a dedicated amp for the speakers and upgrade to floorstanders. for sure, day and night ang difference neto using a receiver  + bookshelf combo kesa sa integrated amp + floorstanders.  ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: AlvinladeN on Jul 06, 2010 at 08:32 PM
ok lang ba kung palitan ko yung Yamaha ko ng Onkyo 606 para sa Wharf 9.1 ko? plano ko na din kasi magkaron ng Dolby/DTS HD capable reciever eh.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shainoy on Jul 07, 2010 at 08:24 AM
Gave a taught for what your comments and opinion here.

Actually i am totally happy with the wharfs and the yamaha if playing movies, the only thing iam not really satisfied with is playing the wharfs with cd or music.

Probably i will start with another good pair of speaker (bookshelf or floorstander) and give it a try with the yamaha's speaker A/B terminal (Switch na lang if listen to cds).

   
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 07, 2010 at 10:25 AM
Get an integrated amp. Your weak link now is the receiver, not the speakers.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: yasmin on Jul 07, 2010 at 10:42 AM
My current Wharfedale set up:

9.4 Floor standers
9cm center
9 dfs
psw110
onkyo 308
ordinary speaker cables pa lang
no add-on accessories yet. i don't know what to buy eh.

don't know if it that's ok na either. just started pa lang eh ...  :D

so far nice with both music and movies...i think...

 will upgrade as needed.

any suggestions?

thanks guys.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 07, 2010 at 10:59 AM
...
so far nice with both music and movies...i think...
...

Why fix when it ain't broke? :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: xtrm_2001 on Jul 07, 2010 at 11:06 AM
any suggestions?

enjoy  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Jul 07, 2010 at 12:22 PM
My current Wharfedale set up:

9.4 Floor standers
9cm center
9 dfs
psw110
onkyo 308
ordinary speaker cables pa lang
no add-on accessories yet. i don't know what to buy eh.

don't know if it that's ok na either. just started pa lang eh ...  :D

so far nice with both music and movies...i think...

 will upgrade as needed.

any suggestions?

thanks guys.


Enjoy mo muna. Pag nabibitin ka na, saka mo i-analyze kung ano ang hinahanap mo. :)

Congrats with the purchase!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: napshell571 on Jul 07, 2010 at 09:44 PM
Get an integrated amp. Your weak link now is the receiver, not the speakers.

I totally agree with sir bumblebee. I got a yamaha-tannoy mercuries combo, wala akong masabi when watching dvds, the house rocks with my dts sub. Pero pag music parang kulang kahit either in stereo or DPL II mode. I am thinking of upgrading my speakers until something caught my attention when I'm browsing av sites...
The integrated amps. I started hunting for one and finally my budget for speaker upgrade goes to a CA integrated amp. When hooked up, my tannoy floorstanders began to sing, treble suddenly sparkle, mid range naging balance and bass tight even without the sub. I rediscovered my  cds because now I'm hearing details I've never heard before. Just sharing mga bro...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: AlvinladeN on Jul 08, 2010 at 07:22 AM
recommend naman kayo ng integrated amp na budget friendly and where to buy.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: BigBert-2 on Jul 08, 2010 at 07:49 AM

Bro, check this out.  ;)

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,117147.0.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,117147.0.html)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shainoy on Jul 08, 2010 at 07:52 AM
recommend naman kayo ng integrated amp na budget friendly and where to buy.  :)

Consider a T Amp. Read the review and a thread here at pdvd
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 08, 2010 at 08:38 AM
recommend naman kayo ng integrated amp na budget friendly and where to buy.  :)

Pagawa ka na lang. Daming kits available.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Jul 08, 2010 at 03:18 PM
recommend naman kayo ng integrated amp na budget friendly and where to buy.  :)

How much is budget friendly for you? What speakers would be driven, and how big is your room?

What sort of music do you play?

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Signal2Noise on Jul 09, 2010 at 05:19 AM
recommend naman kayo ng integrated amp na budget friendly and where to buy.  :)

Are you looking for an SS or Tube amp and how much cash are you willing to burn?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: AlvinladeN on Jul 09, 2010 at 06:45 AM
medyo pricey pala mga integrated amps, meron bang mga 5k-ish lang? kung lalagpas ng 10k upgrade na lang ako ng receiver or speakers.

my room is 4x6m and I play any kinds of music  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Jul 09, 2010 at 07:43 AM
medyo pricey pala mga integrated amps, meron bang mga 5k-ish lang? kung lalagpas ng 10k upgrade na lang ako ng receiver or speakers.

my room is 4x6m and I play any kinds of music  ;D

Sa 5k, baka mayroon ka makita used. Cambridge 340A naka liquidation sale ngayon at 8.8k ata, check mo lang kung san branch meron.

Medyo malaki ang 4x6m kung malakas ka magpatugtog. You might need a stronger amp or receiver to fill that space.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Signal2Noise on Jul 09, 2010 at 08:54 AM
medyo pricey pala mga integrated amps, meron bang mga 5k-ish lang? kung lalagpas ng 10k upgrade na lang ako ng receiver or speakers.

my room is 4x6m and I play any kinds of music  ;D

Pero iba pa rin ang tunog ng dedicated int. amp pagdating sa audio.  Try mo na lang iyong Sakura AV-200T, it is selling like hotcakes @ less than 5K.  There's a thread here in PDVD for Sakura AV-200T, check it out.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: SETSUT on Jul 18, 2010 at 02:34 PM
Mga bossing maganda po kya combination ng Denon 1610 and wharf 9.1? Newbie lang po kasi ako. Plan to build my first HT. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: cbotc on Jul 22, 2010 at 05:43 AM
This is my first post. I'm a newbie and have Wharf Diamond 9.1 front speakers, Wharf CS9 centerspeaker and Wharf WH3 surrounds powered by a Harman Kardon AVR35 amp. My subwoofer is a JBL SCS125.

The setup sounds good already but I'm planning to upgrade with a better amp to bring out the Wharf's to it's full potential. Any recos on what amp will do justice to my current setup?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shainoy on Jul 22, 2010 at 12:07 PM
Mga Sir, Just want to share some improvements i made to my Wharf Bookshelf.

1. Biwired the wharf
2. My stand kasi has metal sheet top (yong pinapatungan nang speaker), so i had a glass cut of same size and place over the metal sheet.
3. Put 3M bumpon as footings. (when i installed this. I heard some low notes i did not hear before)

Medyo i could hear na some lows from the strings of an acoustic guitar/Cello of a music reference.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Jul 23, 2010 at 10:53 AM
Mga Sir, Just want to share some improvements i made to my Wharf Bookshelf.

1. Biwired the wharf
2. My stand kasi has metal sheet top (yong pinapatungan nang speaker), so i had a glass cut of same size and place over the metal sheet.
3. Put 3M bumpon as footings. (when i installed this. I heard some low notes i did not hear before)

Medyo i could hear na some lows from the strings of an acoustic guitar/Cello of a music reference.

Wahoo! Bach Cello Suite Number 1 is beautifuhuhul!!! ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shainoy on Jul 23, 2010 at 11:50 AM
Wahoo! Bach Cello Suite Number 1 is beautifuhuhul!!! ;)
Sir, meron ka pa download/share naman para ma test natin Wharfs natin fully.

Bass shy kasi compared to other BS. Pero ganda nang mids at saka gusto ko yong tunog nang silk tweeter.
Hindi kaya yong Kevlar ang may problema?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Jul 23, 2010 at 01:27 PM
Sir, meron ka pa download/share naman para ma test natin Wharfs natin fully.

Bass shy kasi compared to other BS. Pero ganda nang mids at saka gusto ko yong tunog nang silk tweeter.
Hindi kaya yong Kevlar ang may problema?

Not really into downloading content yet.  This is how it sounds.... Beautiful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZn_VBgkPNY

On Kevlar, some more expensive speakers are made of the same material too.  So should not be that.  Are these your main speakers?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shainoy on Jul 23, 2010 at 08:50 PM
Not really into downloading content yet.  This is how it sounds.... Beautiful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZn_VBgkPNY

On Kevlar, some more expensive speakers are made of the same material too.  So should not be that.  Are these your main speakers?

fronts sa 5.1 setup.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dannielsimone on Aug 09, 2010 at 12:03 PM
Currently have Bose 301 up front with a Bose center and Wharf 9.1' as surrounds.  Am considering  to dump the Bose up front and get Wharfedale 9.5 as fronts, a matching center 9CM and a small sub.  



Have often heard and read that  wharf subs are only fair in performance.  What other brands/model  of sub should I consider  as a sub? (my budget for sub is about 10,000 peso)

What Receiver is best to drive these 9.5's? I have used Onkyo and was always happy with them but specifically for Wharfedales what brand is best? (Receiver should have at least 3 HDMI connections and my budget is about 20,000 peso)

Your comments are most appreciated and thanx for reading.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iiinas on Aug 09, 2010 at 12:57 PM

Have often heard and read that  wharf subs are only fair in performance.  What other brands/model  of sub should I consider  as a sub? (my budget for sub is about 10,000 peso)

you could try this in the marketplace, great brand (mirage) and brand new!

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,118652.0.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,118652.0.html)

What Receiver is best to drive these 9.5's? I have used Onkyo and was always happy with them but specifically for Wharfedales what brand is best? (Receiver should have at least 3 HDMI connections and my budget is about 20,000 peso)

traditionally, wharfedales have always been perceived to sound very good when paired with yamahas!

good luck!   ;D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Aug 09, 2010 at 01:03 PM
Currently have Bose 301 up front with a Bose center and Wharf 9.1' as surrounds.  Am considering  to dump the Bose up front and get Wharfedale 9.5 as fronts, a matching center 9CM and a small sub.  



Have often heard and read that  wharf subs are only fair in performance.  What other brands/model  of sub should I consider  as a sub? (my budget for sub is about 10,000 peso)

What Receiver is best to drive these 9.5's? I have used Onkyo and was always happy with them but specifically for Wharfedales what brand is best? (Receiver should have at least 3 HDMI connections and my budget is about 20,000 peso)

Your comments are most appreciated and thanx for reading.

Baka mabitin ka with a small sub sir? 

The 9.5 and 9cm are pretty big ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dannielsimone on Aug 09, 2010 at 02:09 PM
Baka mabitin ka with a small sub sir? 

The 9.5 and 9cm are pretty big ::) ::) ::)

You may be correct. What sub would you recommend?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Aug 09, 2010 at 03:09 PM
Have often heard and read that  wharf subs are only fair in performance.  What other brands/model  of sub should I consider  as a sub? (my budget for sub is about 10,000 peso)

What Receiver is best to drive these 9.5's? I have used Onkyo and was always happy with them but specifically for Wharfedales what brand is best? (Receiver should have at least 3 HDMI connections and my budget is about 20,000 peso)
The Mirage Omni S10 might fit your budget for the sub. The Polk PSW110 is also pretty close. You can also explore the BYO (build your own) options, if you don't mind to put some additional effort.

Wharfedale speakers are very forgiving with matching gear, so it's not gonna be hard for you to find a receiver that will have a compatible sonic signature. Yamaha and Pioneer generally do pretty well with them, though I've also heard them sound good with Onkyo and Marantz receivers. Cambridge Audio and NAD receivers can also work with them. They will sound different with different partnering gear, so it's always best to hear them yourself (so that you can purchase the receiver that will make these speakers sound the way you want them to).
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Aug 09, 2010 at 03:17 PM
You may be correct. What sub would you recommend?

Would suggest you audition and audition, this would give you an idea of the sound and feel of what is out there and how far it might set yo back.  For the budget you are working with, would you consider getting second hand?  A lot of good deals here you just have to watch out for.  Have a wharfe setup too and got my sub second hand here at the marketplace ;D

Cheers and goodluck on the search and pairing :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Onkyo606 on Aug 09, 2010 at 04:19 PM
Have often heard and read that  wharf subs are only fair in performance.  What other brands/model  of sub should I consider  as a sub? (my budget for sub is about 10,000 peso)

you could try this in the marketplace, great brand (mirage) and brand new!

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,118652.0.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,118652.0.html)

What Receiver is best to drive these 9.5's? I have used Onkyo and was always happy with them but specifically for Wharfedales what brand is best? (Receiver should have at least 3 HDMI connections and my budget is about 20,000 peso)

traditionally, wharfedales have always been perceived to sound very good when paired with yamahas!

good luck!   ;D



+1
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dannielsimone on Aug 10, 2010 at 04:51 PM
The Mirage Omni S10 might fit your budget for the sub. The Polk PSW110 is also pretty close. You can also explore the BYO (build your own) options, if you don't mind to put some additional effort.

Wharfedale speakers are very forgiving with matching gear, so it's not gonna be hard for you to find a receiver that will have a compatible sonic signature. Yamaha and Pioneer generally do pretty well with them, though I've also heard them sound good with Onkyo and Marantz receivers. Cambridge Audio and NAD receivers can also work with them. They will sound different with different partnering gear, so it's always best to hear them yourself (so that you can purchase the receiver that will make these speakers sound the way you want them to).

I like the idea of the mirage omnis10...good reviews on that and the price point is just about perfect.  The same could be said for the polkPSW110 but am leaning towards the mirage

In respect to a receiver I have an older  Onkyo 5.1 that has served me well and could be the filler for now as I seek to gain a bit more "budget". 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dannielsimone on Aug 10, 2010 at 05:04 PM
+1


In respect to a receiver I have an older  Onkyo 5.1 that has served me well and could be the filler for now as I seek to gain a bit more "budget". 

I bought this more than 10 years ago if not 14.  It was in the repair shop just once 6 years back.  I  am using it now with my current set up and is OK but no HDMI.

Have done extensive research on all recent models of Onkyo.  The 60X and the 70x are serious bang for buck units.  The 608 is going for 400 Bux in the states.  Wish I could get one sent over but really do not want to deal with hassle and lack of warranty and the 110 Volt issue. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dannielsimone on Aug 10, 2010 at 05:09 PM
What do you think?  Will there be a major difference in sound if using  the 9.5 or 9.6 if I am using a the mirage omni s10 sub with the 9cs and 9.1 surrounds? 

I ask as I prefer the tone of the 9.5  with a more subtle base and the sub will make up for any differences in the very low end?

What are your opinions on the 9.5 vs 9.6.

thanx for your views and input
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Aug 10, 2010 at 08:21 PM
I prefer the 9.6 over the 9.5 by a huge margin, but that's just me. I find the 9.5 unnaturally boomy. The 9.6 has a smoother overall response. Both have a bigger, darker sound than the 9.1 though.

If you can get the 9.cm, they're voiced closer to the 9.6. If you already have the 9.cs, then that would do. :)

The receiver can still high pass the 9.6 at a low frequency (40Hz-50Hz for example), and let the sub manage the extreme lows and LFE data. Both the 9.5 and the 9.6 roll off well before the quoted frequency limits.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: c.a. on Aug 10, 2010 at 08:32 PM
What do you think?  Will there be a major difference in sound if using  the 9.5 or 9.6 if I am using a the mirage omni s10 sub with the 9cs and 9.1 surrounds? 

I ask as I prefer the tone of the 9.5  with a more subtle base and the sub will make up for any differences in the very low end?

What are your opinions on the 9.5 vs 9.6.

thanx for your views and input


i think the 9.6 is better..  it has more detailed highs and deeper tighter low frequencies..  as for the sub, its better if you get something not smaller than 12"...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Aug 10, 2010 at 11:32 PM

i think the 9.6 is better..  it has more detailed highs and deeper tighter low frequencies..  as for the sub, its better if you get something not smaller than 12"...

There are very strong 10" subs around, though big drivers do have their innate advantages.

I agree with going for the 9.6. The 9.6 towers and the 9.3 bookshelves are the best sounding Diamond 9s for me. The 9.6 for its great bandwidth, scale and dynamic capability, and the 9.3 for its good driver integration, even response, decent imaging, and overall musicality.

@dannielsimone

Just remember to use heavy gauge cables for the 9.6, as they need quite a bit of damping.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dannielsimone on Aug 11, 2010 at 11:25 AM
There are very strong 10" subs around, though big drivers do have their innate advantages.

I agree with going for the 9.6. The 9.6 towers and the 9.3 bookshelves are the best sounding Diamond 9s for me. The 9.6 for its great bandwidth, scale and dynamic capability, and the 9.3 for its good driver integration, even response, decent imaging, and overall musicality.

@dannielsimone

Just remember to use heavy gauge cables for the 9.6, as they need quite a bit of damping.

would you suggest 14 guage?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: c.a. on Aug 11, 2010 at 11:39 AM
There are very strong 10" subs around, though big drivers do have their innate advantages.

Just remember to use heavy gauge cables for the 9.6, as they need quite a bit of damping.

+1

would suggest g14 or larger... and would also suggest a powerful amp as the 9.6 is power hungry..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dannielsimone on Aug 11, 2010 at 01:28 PM
+1

would suggest g14 or larger... and would also suggest a powerful amp as the 9.6 is power hungry..

Unfortunately I no longer own a powerful amp and am using my trusty and reliable aged Onkyo 5.1 pre HDMI which will most likely not power the 9.6.

Will it power the 9.5?

http://reviews.cnet.com/av-receivers/onkyo-tx-sv525-av/1707-6466_7-33787617.html
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: c.a. on Aug 11, 2010 at 06:53 PM
i have an 30watt hk stereo amp and it can power my 9.6, but it can never make it sing as good as more powerful amps can. im not sure with the 9.5 as i havent tried it.  but i believe its also power hungry.. i've had a 9.1 and 9.2, they an both be driven by my 30watter, but they sound better with a more powerful amp.. more dynamics & tighter low freq..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dannielsimone on Aug 11, 2010 at 07:18 PM
i have an 30watt hk stereo amp and it can power my 9.6, but it can never make it sing as good as more powerful amps can. im not sure with the 9.5 as i havent tried it.  but i believe its also power hungry.. i've had a 9.1 and 9.2, they an both be driven by my 30watter, but they sound better with a more powerful amp.. more dynamics & tighter low freq..

I have resigned myself to getting the 9.5 as I have various restraints on size and space not to mention  my budget is tighter than a seals ass  ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Aug 12, 2010 at 01:12 AM
I have resigned myself to getting the 9.5 as I have various restraints on size and space not to mention  my budget is tighter than a seals ass  ::)


Try them both. For me, the 9.5's bass can border on distasteful with music. But then again, I'm not a big basshead.

Even a C315BEE or a 340A (40WPC) can make them play well (even with these small amps, I prefer the 9.6 over the 9.5). Just don't expect them to have the dynamics, scale, and control afforded by a burly amplifier (they really get uncorked with a big power amp).

I had my 9.6s connected to a Pioneer receiver in the past, and they sounded alright. They may be a bit more future-proof, as they will still show a significant improvement if you upgrade your electronics in the future.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dannielsimone on Aug 13, 2010 at 03:46 PM
I have resigned myself to getting the 9.5 as I have various restraints on size and space not to mention  my budget is tighter than a seals ass  ::)


Cancel that last post.  9.5 is not available for now.  Must rethink my strategy and budget?  maybe will pawn my fish tank and goldfish and upgrade?  or downgrade? or look at polk.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Aug 13, 2010 at 11:28 PM
If you don't have a big room (and don't play that loud), consider the use of higher model bookshelf speakers. This way, you get to enjoy the sound of a higher model speaker, without paying more.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dannielsimone on Aug 15, 2010 at 12:00 PM
Cancel that last post.  9.5 is not available for now.  Must rethink my strategy and budget?  maybe will pawn my fish tank and goldfish and upgrade?  or downgrade? or look at polk.

As the 9.5 is not available my wife, kids and I did a demo of the 9.6 and the new diamond 10 series as well as other polk gear.  Tested for both 2 channel stereo as well as  5.1 surround with transformers movie.  The 9.6 shined throughout.   Also checked out the mirage Omni10 and Omni8. Omni 10 was very good and handled the battle scenes  very well. As expected and pre warned the Omni8 is not in the same leauge but still handled the low end pretty well.  For the price the subs  are both good deals.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: c.a. on Aug 16, 2010 at 09:25 PM
As the 9.5 is not available my wife, kids and I did a demo of the 9.6 and the new diamond 10 series as well as other polk gear.  Tested for both 2 channel stereo as well as  5.1 surround with transformers movie.  The 9.6 shined throughout.   Also checked out the mirage Omni10 and Omni8. Omni 10 was very good and handled the battle scenes  very well. As expected and pre warned the Omni8 is not in the same leauge but still handled the low end pretty well.  For the price the subs  are both good deals.

trust your ears, you wont go wrong with the 9.6... had mine more than a year ago.. i haven't got a cent of regret since then.. haven't heard anything better than it at this price range...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dannielsimone on Aug 19, 2010 at 02:54 PM
There are very strong 10" subs around, though big drivers do have their innate advantages.

I agree with going for the 9.6. The 9.6 towers and the 9.3 bookshelves are the best sounding Diamond 9s for me. The 9.6 for its great bandwidth, scale and dynamic capability, and the 9.3 for its good driver integration, even response, decent imaging, and overall musicality.

@dannielsimone

Just remember to use heavy gauge cables for the 9.6, as they need quite a bit of damping.

The 9.6 sounded great at the demo.  They are a few years old already.  They were powered with a Pioneer.  Had to have them for the price. They sound almost as good as my paradigm monitor 7's...( I said almost)  ;D

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http://reviews.audioreview.com/blog/editors-choice-best-floor-standing-speakers-under-1000/

Could not resist.  Even though my budget was for the 9.5 these babies won me over.  Got the 9.6 the 9cm and the 9.1 (surrounds) and am using my old onkyo 80/60 watts per channel for now.  Also matched them up with the mirage Omni10s Sub. This sub is a bargain for under 9K.  Seems to be doing the trick real nicely. Must say the speakers sound exactly as I knew they would, a little stiff, hollow and  not very warm.  ;)   Par for the course with new wharfs as so many have said. Even my wife noticed it. I am sure this is the result of needing to break them in. Or is it my Onkyo?
http://reviews.cnet.com/av-receivers/onkyo-tx-sv525-av/1707-6466_7-33787617.html


  I know that it will take a good month for these babies to loosen up.  Would you say 200 hours?  Any advice during the break in period?

Am closing  deal on a HDTV over the next day or two.  Will probably  be a Panny plasma.  A great addition to the Wharfs.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: c.a. on Aug 19, 2010 at 09:51 PM
i must say the 9.6 didn't sound good out of the box..  but the sound gets better as it gets broken in.. mine really sounded better after a week of having them.. I've read that some people use pink noise to break in their speakers, but as for me, i just play music as i usually do.. as for the advice, nothing really just don't drive them too hard... congratz! ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dannielsimone on Aug 19, 2010 at 10:01 PM
i must say the 9.6 didn't sound good out of the box..  but the sound gets better as it gets broken in.. mine really sounded better after a week of having them.. I've read that some people use pink noise to break in their speakers, but as for me, i just play music as i usually do.. as for the advice, nothing really just don't drive them too hard... congratz! ;D

Thanx....Pink noise?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: c.a. on Aug 20, 2010 at 09:45 AM
 from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_noise

Pink noise or 1/ƒ noise is a signal or process with a frequency spectrum such that the power spectral density is inversely proportional to the frequency. In pink noise, each octave carries an equal amount of noise power. The name arises from being intermediate between white noise (1/ƒ0) and red noise (1/ƒ2) which is commonly known as Brownian noise.


I'm not really sure but i think it's the sound they usually use for the test tone of amps..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dannielsimone on Aug 20, 2010 at 01:35 PM
from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_noise

Pink noise or 1/ƒ noise is a signal or process with a frequency spectrum such that the power spectral density is inversely proportional to the frequency. In pink noise, each octave carries an equal amount of noise power. The name arises from being intermediate between white noise (1/ƒ0) and red noise (1/ƒ2) which is commonly known as Brownian noise.


I'm not really sure but i think it's the sound they usually use for the test tone of amps..

Oh.....

am just using my speakers with normal audio from TV, FM radio, 2 channel stereo, surround all at modest levels for the most part except for the intro to the latest star trek movie which sounds great on the 9.6 / Omni10  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dannielsimone on Sep 18, 2010 at 08:58 PM
Oh.....

am just using my speakers with normal audio from TV, FM radio, 2 channel stereo, surround all at modest levels for the most part except for the intro to the latest star trek movie which sounds great on the 9.6 / Omni10  ;)
2 Plus  weeks of breaking in and the speakers are warming up.  Am ready to crank at higher volumes.  The San Migs and Stoly are in the freezer.  The wife is visiting friends.  The time is right!!!!

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dannielsimone on Oct 09, 2010 at 03:41 PM
2 Plus  weeks of breaking in and the speakers are warming up.  Am ready to crank at higher volumes.  The San Migs and Stoly are in the freezer.  The wife is visiting friends.  The time is right!!!!



Just another quick update. After about 7-8 weeks of break in these babies are sounding warm and sweeeeeet.  I am 100% happy and pleased with my choice and as far as value for money goes it is no doubt the best deal for a "low budget" priced speaker out there.  I am pushing these babies at higher volumes now with no noticeable distortion.  They are not miles apart from the paradigm monitor 7's that I had loved at a fraction of the cost.  and my last comment for those who care  is that these Wharfes partner beautifully with my new Onkyo 707.

Thanx for reading and have a great day.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Oct 09, 2010 at 04:11 PM
It's great to hear that you got them singing well, Dannielsimone. These speakers love lively electronics with a hearty drive.

I kinda regret selling my pair. I had them active quad-amped. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dannielsimone on Oct 09, 2010 at 04:20 PM
It's great to hear that you got them singing well, Dannielsimone. These speakers love lively electronics with a hearty drive.

I kinda regret selling my pair. I had them active quad-amped. ;D
What did you upgrade to?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Oct 09, 2010 at 05:22 PM
What did you upgrade to?

Nothing grand, really. Some were upgrades, some were downgrades, others were lateral movements. I enjoyed them all though.
Towers including: PSB Imagine T, B&W CM9, B&W 683, Mission M52, Wharfe Diamond 9.4, Yamaha NS-F700
Bookshelves including: PSB Image B25, PSB Alpha B1, Infinity Primus 160, MS Avant 902i, Wharfe Diamond 9.3/9.1/10.1.

I still have the Diamond 9.3s serving HT duties. They're my favorite Diamonds, simply because they match well with my HT gear. They don't get nearly as loud as the 9.6s (they distort sooner), but they have a brighter and more balanced sound to my ears. They also don't get boomy in my small room (the 9.6's port tuning excites my room's modes)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: c.a. on Oct 10, 2010 at 11:39 AM
nice speaker collection sir!   :o
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: peechey on Oct 11, 2010 at 02:31 PM
I'll finally be able to buy my very first HT setup by next week.  I'm thinking of 2 setups right now:

Option 1:
Onkyo 508
Mirage Omni S10
9.1
9.CS
9.SR


Option 2:
Onkyo 508
Mirage Omni S10
9.3
9.CM
9.SR


Option 2 is about 5k more expensive than option 1.  Is there really a big difference between  Option 2 and Option 1?  Budget is quite tight but if the difference in SQ between the two is really noticeable, then I might consider stretching my budget for Option 2.  Btw, my room is about 20sqm.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: BigBert-2 on Oct 11, 2010 at 02:50 PM

For me option is ok. Better if you change the 9.SR with 9.1 instead. But that is just me.  ;)

Option 1:
Onkyo 508
Mirage Omni S10
9.1
9.CS
9.SR
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Oct 11, 2010 at 02:52 PM
nice speaker collection sir!   
Thanks c.a. :)

Option 2 is about 5k more expensive than option 1.  Is there really a big difference between  Option 2 and Option 1?  Budget is quite tight but if the difference in SQ between the two is really noticeable, then I might consider stretching my budget for Option 2.  Btw, my room is about 20sqm.
Option 2 lets you play a bit louder, and does music better imho. If you have the budget for Option 2, I'd say go for it. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: peechey on Oct 11, 2010 at 04:12 PM
Thanks for the inputs sirs.  Pero ok naman yung match ko ng speakers, sub and receiver?  Probably the best way for me to decide is to listen to the actual setup.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: SETSUT on Oct 11, 2010 at 08:54 PM
I'll finally be able to buy my very first HT setup by next week.  I'm thinking of 2 setups right now:

Option 1:
Onkyo 508
Mirage Omni S10
9.1
9.CS
9.SR


Option 2:
Onkyo 508
Mirage Omni S10
9.3
9.CM
9.SR


Option 2 is about 5k more expensive than option 1.  Is there really a big difference between  Option 2 and Option 1?  Budget is quite tight but if the difference in SQ between the two is really noticeable, then I might consider stretching my budget for Option 2.  Btw, my room is about 20sqm.

Hi, user here of onkyo 508, wharf 9.1 and omni s10. I just started for a 2.1 setup and later on if budget permits, i will purchase 9.5/9.6 and 9cm then 9.1 will be my rears.
For my current 2.1 setup, I'm satisfied with it but want to experience the real 5.1 setup. For music listening wharf 9.1 a little bit lacking of bass but the omni s10 did a great job in providing the bass what i need.
For a starter, you cant go wrong on any options you choose.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Oct 12, 2010 at 07:41 AM
Thanks for the inputs sirs.  Pero ok naman yung match ko ng speakers, sub and receiver?  Probably the best way for me to decide is to listen to the actual setup.

Yeah, I think they match just fine. Aside from the better extension, I find the the 9.3 less congested in the vocal region because it lacks the boost that the 9.1 has in the upper bass region.

However, you may also want to audition the Polk TSi and the Mordaunt Short Avant speaks. They deliver a punchier and livelier presentation for similar money (if that's what you're after). The new Onkyos are less forward-sounding (making them more flexible with speaker matching).

Good luck. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: peechey on Oct 12, 2010 at 01:38 PM
@ShogdGreat,

Thanks for the suggestion sir.  I'll try to consider this as well though I might push through with my mini 5.1 setup.  Marami pa kasing ibang pinagiipunan.  :)


@Stagea,

Thanks sir.  Any specific combination of speakers from these brands that you can recommend?  I'm probably gonna use my setup mostly for movie viewing.  Around 50% movies, 30% music and 20% gaming.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: peechey on Oct 12, 2010 at 01:42 PM
Saw the prices of the Polk TSi series and I think they're out of my budget already  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: c.a. on Oct 12, 2010 at 01:45 PM
I'll finally be able to buy my very first HT setup by next week.  I'm thinking of 2 setups right now:

Option 1:
Onkyo 508
Mirage Omni S10
9.1
9.CS
9.SR


Option 2:
Onkyo 508
Mirage Omni S10
9.3
9.CM
9.SR


Option 2 is about 5k more expensive than option 1.  Is there really a big difference between  Option 2 and Option 1?  Budget is quite tight but if the difference in SQ between the two is really noticeable, then I might consider stretching my budget for Option 2.  Btw, my room is about 20sqm.


definitely option 2. for me it's a "5k" you wont regret..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dannielsimone on Oct 12, 2010 at 10:10 PM
Hi, user here of onkyo 508, wharf 9.1 and omni s10. I just started for a 2.1 setup and later on if budget permits, i will purchase 9.5/9.6 and 9cm then 9.1 will be my rears.
For my current 2.1 setup, I'm satisfied with it but want to experience the real 5.1 setup. For music listening wharf 9.1 a little bit lacking of bass but the omni s10 did a great job in providing the bass what i need.
For a starter, you cant go wrong on any options you choose.
ShogdGreat I am very happy with the 9.6.  The base response is fantastic and when listening to music I do NOT need to use my Sub.  That is right I do NOT need to use my sub.  I highly recommend you do a demo as just recently stock arrived for 9.5 and 9.6.  These babies will not be around for ever.

Please do bear in  mind something.  The 9.6 out of the box sounded poor.  It required a good 100 hours till it sounded better.  After 200 hours it  now sounds great!  I said it before on this thread.  I am cranking on higher volumes with little distortion and these babies sound NOT worlds apart from my paradigm monitor 7's that I also loved, for a fraction of the price.  For real value these speakers ROCK in more ways than one!!!  I am 100% content.


In respect to set up one or set up two I suggest a third option.  Get my same set up.  Borrow some money or work overtime do what you have to and get: 

Diamond 9.6
Diamond 9 CM
Diamond 9.1
Omni 10s
Onkyo Receiver























Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: SETSUT on Oct 14, 2010 at 09:28 PM
ShogdGreat I am very happy with the 9.6.  The base response is fantastic and when listening to music I do NOT need to use my Sub.  That is right I do NOT need to use my sub.  I highly recommend you do a demo as just recently stock arrived for 9.5 and 9.6.  These babies will not be around for ever.

Please do bear in  mind something.  The 9.6 out of the box sounded poor.  It required a good 100 hours till it sounded better.  After 200 hours it  now sounds great!  I said it before on this thread.  I am cranking on higher volumes with little distortion and these babies sound NOT worlds apart from my paradigm monitor 7's that I also loved, for a fraction of the price.  For real value these speakers ROCK in more ways than one!!!  I am 100% content.


In respect to set up one or set up two I suggest a third option.  Get my same set up.  Borrow some money or work overtime do what you have to and get: 

Diamond 9.6
Diamond 9 CM
Diamond 9.1
Omni 10s
Onkyo Receiver



Hi Mr dannielsimone. Im just worried about the power requirement by 9.6. I don't know if my 508 will be sufficient to drive these babies, maybe 9.5 will match with it. If you can just lend me a budget for it, i will be very happy....hehehe.. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dannielsimone on Oct 15, 2010 at 12:54 PM
Hi Mr dannielsimone. Im just worried about the power requirement by 9.6. I don't know if my 508 will be sufficient to drive these babies, maybe 9.5 will match with it. If you can just lend me a budget for it, i will be very happy....hehehe.. ;D ;D ;D
How does your 508 compare (80 watts?)to the output my 707 (100 watts).  From my research and from what I hear it should be no issue at all.  My 707 drives these babies with no issues and plenty of room to spare.  And am sure Victor would have no problem giving you credit terms as you are Suki.

And by the way keep your eyes on the "For Sale Thread"  There are deals coming up all over for the 9.6.  Just a few minutes ago a great deal on "pre-owned and certified 9.1 with Velodyne tweeters" for only 4 K.

^^Peechey should be all over this deal like white on rice to start his HT.^^

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Rangerdog on Oct 21, 2010 at 08:18 PM
Hi all!

I am relatively late to the Wharfedale Diamond party. I thought I'll share with you my experience regarding these babies.

I bought a pair of Diamond 9.6 Rosewoods (nagsisi ako sa kulay, parang maitim kasi, Beech na lang sana) late last year and partnered it with my 5 year old NAD AV Receiver T752.  The sonic signature veers on the warm-ish side, no listening fatigue at all.  The usual suspects are there - excellent midrange (which I really, really CRAVE!), deep bass when called for and clear, if not polite, highs.  I am a stereo kind of guy but I do movies occasionally - as these speakers do not need a subwoofer as mentioned several times in the thread.  I do not care so much for the surround effects so I only have Yamaha center and surrounds, my subwoofer is a Definitive Technology Sub 80 which I rarely switch on.  So far I was very contented. 

Did I say WAS?  Oh yes, the upgrade bug bit me hard.

Just two weeks ago, I got my dream machine - the Ice Powered Pioneer SC LX82 (SC27 in the US).  This receiver is a beast!!!  It brought a lot of things to the table that the NAD can only hint of.  It is as if I am listening to my extensive music collection for the first time, CD after CD.  The proverbial "things that I haven't heard before are suddenly there" applies to this awesome combination.  This isn't a warm snuggly blanket combination - it is a  extremely delectable black java coffee with equal amounts of bite and full flavored goodness.

So much for my rave guys.  I hope you will be able to hear this kind of system match in heaven.  Needless to say, I found my audio nirvana.  Good luck for those who are still looking for theirs.

Rangerdog
Baguio City 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 21, 2010 at 08:33 PM
Hi all!

I am relatively late to the Wharfedale Diamond party. I thought I'll share with you my experience regarding these babies.

I bought a pair of Diamond 9.6 Rosewoods (nagsisi ako sa kulay, parang maitim kasi, Beech na lang sana) late last year and partnered it with my 5 year old NAD AV Receiver T752.  The sonic signature veers on the warm-ish side, no listening fatigue at all.  The usual suspects are there - excellent midrange (which I really, really CRAVE!), deep bass when called for and clear, if not polite, highs.  I am a stereo kind of guy but I do movies occasionally - as these speakers do not need a subwoofer as mentioned several times in the thread.  I do not care so much for the surround effects so I only have Yamaha center and surrounds, my subwoofer is a Definitive Technology Sub 80 which I rarely switch on.  So far I was very contented. 

Did I say WAS?  Oh yes, the upgrade bug bit me hard.

Just two weeks ago, I got my dream machine - the Ice Powered Pioneer SC LX82 (SC27 in the US).  This receiver is a beast!!!  It brought a lot of things to the table that the NAD can only hint of.  It is as if I am listening to my extensive music collection for the first time, CD after CD.  The proverbial "things that I haven't heard before are suddenly there" applies to this awesome combination.  This isn't a warm snuggly blanket combination - it is a  extremely delectable black java coffee with equal amounts of bite and full flavored goodness.

So much for my rave guys.  I hope you will be able to hear this kind of system match in heaven.  Needless to say, I found my audio nirvana.  Good luck for those who are still looking for theirs.

Rangerdog
Baguio City 

congrats sir ranger, you probably is the only one hwo has that beast of an amp here, thats one mean machine indeed
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Oct 22, 2010 at 02:10 PM
Congratulations Rangerdog!

Till the next bug bites.... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jeyps11_c on Oct 24, 2010 at 10:06 AM
How much is the current market price of the 9.4, brand new and 2nd hand?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Rangerdog on Oct 24, 2010 at 07:33 PM
Hi again.

This Sunday afternoon, I was able to push the known performance envelope that my 9.6 is capable of.  Before the Pioneer LX82, I used the NAD T752 - which is no slouch when it comes to parameters in good audio performance  -  so I have a pretty good idea of how the 9.6 can handle things.  As I said in my previous post, the Pioneer significantly raised the bar when it comes to virtually all known areas that audio reviewers are fond of:  accuracy, musicality (BTW, these two are NOT mutually exclusive), transparency, pitch definition, soundstage height and width, etc. etc.  you name it, this combination has it in spades.

Incredibly, all of these areas were again heightened by a simple tweak.  Well, the Pioneer has a feature to  biamp speakers, and the good news is, the Wharfedale can be vertically bi-amped: just make sure that you remove the gold colored jumpers from the two pairs of binding posts.  So I put another line of speaker wire to the two top binding post and connected the ends to the unused Surround Back terminals of the Pioneer.

Skeptical at first because of the things I read in the internet that this tweak may or may not be useful, I fired up the Pioneer.  Then music flowed and ebbed.... it is so ethereal and somewhat indescribable in its beauty that even my wife and my kids notice that the music became even more, ahh... beautiful (for lack of an appropriate description, hehehe).  It is as if everything became even more clear and more focused by  using a magnifying glass.

Then I put in my CD Torture Test - the Gladiator soundtrack and the mighty track number 1.  You know how monstrously breathtaking the sound of this CD is in the right system.  Heck, I know what I am talking about, I used to frequent the high-end saloons in Tokyo by bringing this CD for a demo and the store clerks obliged me with.  One combination I heard is a Mark Levinson power amp, Esoteric front end and the snail-shaped Bowers and Wilkins Nautilus, but I digress...

Played at very high levels in my own house, whew, I thought I was in front of the massive AIR Studios Lyndhurst orchestra especially when I closed my eyes.   :o Waves and waves of palpable and intensely beautiful music flooded me that I became teary eyed.  Amazingly, at high playback levels, I detected that there was just a tiny bit of distortion. Admittedly, the Wharfes came quite close to breaking up, but guys, this was at insanely loud levels, probably much more than you can bear.  Still, I admired the composure of the 9.6 because you can still hear all the instruments very clearly, from soft passages to the thunderous crescendos.  However, I must also give a big credit to the IcePower amp modules of the Pioneer.  The several glowing reviews for this amazing receiver are just spot on. 

So guys, please do yourself a favor: if you are contemplating buying these babies --- run, don't walk and buy the remaining 9.6 stocks before they ran out.  Anyway, I heard that the stores in Manila are offering good discounts because they are phasing them out.   Look past the successor 10 series towers which may or may not be that good when compared with the Diamond 9.6.  By all means, partner it with a good amp of your choice and budget (NADs are good, despite their issues, trust me).  Better still, if you can find a receiver or amplifier offering a biamping option, you have the good fortune to vertically bi-amp these speakers and elevate their performance to several notches.  Probably you don't realize what these Wharfes are capable of.  I can only assure you that they have my highest recommendation.

It is a rave again, guys, sorry.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: c.a. on Oct 25, 2010 at 06:58 AM

So guys, please do yourself a favor: if you are contemplating buying these babies --- run, don't walk and buy the remaining 9.6 stocks before they ran out.  Anyway, I heard that the stores in Manila are offering good discounts because they are phasing them out.   Look past the successor 10 series towers which may or may not be that good when compared with the Diamond 9.6.  By all means, partner it with a good amp of your choice and budget (NADs are good, despite their issues, trust me).  Better still, if you can find a receiver or amplifier offering a biamping option, you have the good fortune to vertically bi-amp these speakers and elevate their performance to several notches.  Probably you don't realize what these Wharfes are capable of.  I can only assure you that they have my highest recommendation.





+1
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: powershot on Nov 10, 2010 at 06:11 PM
 laki pala ng difference kapag naka bi-amp ang 9.6. I'm very satifsied!  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Euphony101 on Nov 12, 2010 at 05:45 PM
Mga Sir,

Ask ko lng, may factor po ba yung  port position between 9.1(front) and 10.1(Back)?

 
factor in terms of sound improvement?
factor in terms of speaker placement ?


Thanks....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: c.a. on Nov 12, 2010 at 06:18 PM
yes, its a factor..

in terms of sound improvement, the wharfedale website said that "The speaker’s twin reflex ports have been moved to the rear of the cabinet, to reduce the effects of audible distortion." but I've had a dia 9.1 and now i have dia 9.2 and I don't notice the audible distortion from it's front reflex ports.

in terms of  speaker placement, the 10.1 has to be placed a little farther away from the wall as the sound tends to get a little "boomy" when the rear ports gets too near to a wall.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Rangerdog on Nov 15, 2010 at 08:38 PM
I made an experiment today.  I purposely removed the biamp mode of the right channel and made it just a single amp mode (i.e, just a pair of speaker wire with the jumpers in place).  The left channel retained the biamp option.  Then I measured the db output. 

Who would have guessed?  The biamp mode (left channel) is louder by at least +3db compared to the right channel!!!  Biamping the Wharfedale Diamond 9.6 is really the way to go if you want to maximize the SQ of these babies.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Nov 15, 2010 at 10:30 PM
I made an experiment today.  I purposely removed the biamp mode of the right channel and made it just a single amp mode (i.e, just a pair of speaker wire with the jumpers in place).  The left channel retained the biamp option.  Then I measured the db output.  

Who would have guessed?  The biamp mode (left channel) is louder by at least +3db compared to the right channel!!!  Biamping the Wharfedale Diamond 9.6 is really the way to go if you want to maximize the SQ of these babies.

over 3dB? That's a big difference. Are you sure your receiver isn't artificially boosting the signal in Biamp mode?

You have to double the power to yield a volume difference of 3dB, and passive biamping will not remotely double power unless the amplifier is already well past its limits during normal operation.

I had a 9.6 pair in the past, and had tried it in passive bi-amp config as well. I didn't notice any significant volume difference with CA and NAD amps. The mids and highs seemed to remain clear during heavy passages though, possibly due to the reduced current demand on the HF channels. One thing I can say is that the 9.6 loves powerful amps, and sounds best when driven fairly hard. I have tested these speakers in passive and active multi-amp configs with various CAs, NADs, Pioneers, Yamahas and even a Plinius... and they sounded best with the Yamaha MX-D1 (500wpc  power amp) for me. Passive biamping weaker amps improved the sound, but it wasn't enough to match the output of a much more powerful amp (in my experience).

Aside from its dynamic sweet-spot being on the loud side, these speakers can suck quite some current for entry level speaks (they dip below 4 ohms). I think this is why they love strong amps.

Of course as with anything, your mileage may vary. Just my tuppence worth.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Rangerdog on Nov 16, 2010 at 10:44 AM
over 3dB? That's a big difference. Are you sure your receiver isn't artificially boosting the signal in Biamp mode?

You have to double the power to yield a volume difference of 3dB, and passive biamping will not remotely double power unless the amplifier is already well past its limits during normal operation.

I had a 9.6 pair in the past, and had tried it in passive bi-amp config as well. I didn't notice any significant volume difference with CA and NAD amps. The mids and highs seemed to remain clear during heavy passages though, possibly due to the reduced current demand on the HF channels. One thing I can say is that the 9.6 loves powerful amps, and sounds best when driven fairly hard. I have tested these speakers in passive and active multi-amp configs with various CAs, NADs, Pioneers, Yamahas and even a Plinius... and they sounded best with the Yamaha MX-D1 (500wpc  power amp) for me. Passive biamping weaker amps improved the sound, but it wasn't enough to match the output of a much more powerful amp (in my experience).

Aside from its dynamic sweet-spot being on the loud side, these speakers can suck quite some current for entry level speaks (they dip below 4 ohms). I think this is why they love strong amps.

Of course as with anything, your mileage may vary. Just my tuppence worth.



Ok, the experiment I made and coming up with more than +3db in the single amp versus the biamp configuration was not measured by a sound level meter, which I do not have.   It was measured by the Pioneer's MCCAC (Multi-Channel Acoustic Calibration Circuit) in the advanced auto mode itself.  The MCCAC is Pioneer's proprietary automatic sound calibration software that is built-in in the receiver -  pretty much like the Audessy, the Trinov, Yamaha's YPAO, etc. etc..

I ran the aforementioned software and barring any anomalies in room nodes, dips, suckouts, reverbs and whatnots which the software ought to have ironed out, the biamp mode is +3.4db (this is the exact reading) stronger than that of the singleamp configuration relative to the center listening position.  I understand that the software is supposed to correct or maybe even out all the speakers' output depending on their placement and relative sensitivity.  Now, i believe the front two speakers' distance are properly measured out by me insofar as the MCCAC microphone is concerned.

The LX82, by the way, is about 140w in 8ohms, all channels driven, at least that is what the literatures stated  ;).  Of course, this is way below what your past and present gears represent so I do not have the luxury of testing other much stronger amps, other than the relatively wimpy 80w per channel of my old NAD T752.

Thank you, however, for pointing out that the figures I came up with MAY represent an aberration after all. Nevertheless, I do appreciate your conclusion that anyone's mileage may vary.  Peace!


 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Rangerdog on Nov 16, 2010 at 11:07 AM
Oopps, I forgot to add. I also did subjective listening, though not a very scientific method.  I equalized the FR and FL speakers' levels to both 0db and the result is that the biamp mode channel is subjectively louder than the other one. Boosting the other one by about +3db "equalized" the two channels -- again, through subjective listening.
Share ko lang po ng experience so please don't flame me, hehehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Euphony101 on Nov 16, 2010 at 12:22 PM
yes, its a factor..

in terms of sound improvement, the wharfedale website said that "The speaker’s twin reflex ports have been moved to the rear of the cabinet, to reduce the effects of audible distortion." but I've had a dia 9.1 and now i have dia 9.2 and I don't notice the audible distortion from it's front reflex ports.

in terms of  speaker placement, the 10.1 has to be placed a little farther away from the wall as the sound tends to get a little "boomy" when the rear ports gets too near to a wall.


So mas space friendly pala yung front port ng 9.1

How about yung addition ng metal grills sa tweeter ng 10.1
I think I’ve read somewhere that it makes the highs more “disperse”? Any truth to this?

May nag side by side test na kaya ng 10.1 at 9.1 dito sa pdvd using the same set-up?
Ano kaya results. Thanks….

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Nov 16, 2010 at 12:32 PM
May nag side by side test na kaya ng 10.1 at 9.1 dito sa pdvd using the same set-up?
Ano kaya results. Thanks….

Magkaiba sila ng tunog for me. Maganda naman pareho if partnered well (considering the price).

If you can afford to find space for it, suggest ko dagdag mo yung 9.3 sa listening test (price is just slightly higher than the 10.1). Mas balanse siya tumunog for me, walang hump sa upper bass (which can make some tracks sound bloated or nasal) and mas extended yung lows.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: c.a. on Nov 17, 2010 at 08:07 PM

So mas space friendly pala yung front port ng 9.1



I think so.... ;D




How about yung addition ng metal grills sa tweeter ng 10.1
I think I’ve read somewhere that it makes the highs more “disperse”? Any truth to this?

May nag side by side test na kaya ng 10.1 at 9.1 dito sa pdvd using the same set-up?
Ano kaya results. Thanks….



have not tried an A/B comparisson yet... :)

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: cianzepol on Nov 29, 2010 at 07:35 AM
In respect to set up one or set up two I suggest a third option.  Get my same set up.  Borrow some money or work overtime do what you have to and get: 

Diamond 9.6
Diamond 9 CM
Diamond 9.1
Omni 10s
Onkyo Receiver



paps pa post naman po prices ng mga speakers?
planning to buy onkyo 508 and pair it with wharfedale, ok po ba kaya to?























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Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: SETSUT on Nov 29, 2010 at 04:55 PM
In respect to set up one or set up two I suggest a third option.  Get my same set up.  Borrow some money or work overtime do what you have to and get: 

Diamond 9.6
Diamond 9 CM
Diamond 9.1
Omni 10s
Onkyo Receiver



paps pa post naman po prices ng mga speakers?
planning to buy onkyo 508 and pair it with wharfedale, ok po ba kaya to?


@cianzepol I will let you know when i get these wharf 9.6 & 9CM after New Year. Same setup tayo bro, for now i had Onkyo 508, Omni S10 and wharf 9.1

wharf 9.1 - P5,500
wharf 9.6 - 17,500
wharf 9CM - 6,300
-source: SnS

Bro balitaan mo ako kapag nauna ka na mabuo lahat nito....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Euphony101 on Nov 29, 2010 at 05:20 PM
@stagea... Thanks for your recommendation Sir,try kong dalhin yung amp (pioneer A307R stereo amp) ko to hear how the 9.3 sounds.


@c.a. thank you rin for your input Sir.
 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 29, 2010 at 09:40 PM
mga kaibigan magkano na po ba ang brand new ng 9DFS ngayon?

salamat po sa lahat
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: cianzepol on Dec 02, 2010 at 05:22 PM
@cianzepol I will let you know when i get these wharf 9.6 & 9CM after New Year. Same setup tayo bro, for now i had Onkyo 508, Omni S10 and wharf 9.1

wharf 9.1 - P5,500
wharf 9.6 - 17,500
wharf 9CM - 6,300
-source: SnS

Bro balitaan mo ako kapag nauna ka na mabuo lahat nito....


ok naba yung 9.1 omni 10 at onkyo reciever muna?


yung 9.3 paps how much?
ati narin po omni 10?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 28, 2010 at 11:41 PM
What's the price for a pair of 9dfs nowadays?

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ryan750 on Jan 08, 2011 at 11:54 PM
What's the price for a pair of 9dfs nowadays?

Thanks in advance!

Around 4.5k bro...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gabnes on Jan 09, 2011 at 12:18 AM
is Dia 9.2 and Omni prestige s8 a good combo for a 2.1?  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ryan750 on Jan 30, 2011 at 10:12 PM
guys.. ever opened a diamond 9.1? or any other wharfs.. what's the ceramic thing at the side of the cabinet that look like ceramic tiles? isn't some sort of resonance reducer? or what? :D :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: c.a. on Jan 31, 2011 at 12:35 AM
have tried opening my 9.1 and 9.2.. i think the white thing is used to seal the slits in the inner part of the cabinet since they slited the mdf in order for them to bend it... or maybe it is also a type of glue or maybe it can also reduce resonance.. but im not really sure... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Jan 31, 2011 at 03:52 AM
have tried opening my 9.1 and 9.2.. i think the white thing is used to seal the slits in the inner part of the cabinet since they slited the mdf in order for them to bend it... or maybe it is also a type of glue or maybe it can also reduce resonance.. but im not really sure... ;D

I think it's to keep the structural rigidity and to mass-load the enclosure, since the slitted (scored/slotted) sides won't be as rigid as a solid MDF one. It's a cost-oriented production compromise. :) I'm not sure if it's the same epoxy that they use to fill the slots.

This is the more robust way of building a curved cabinet:
(http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7515/dsc03421xp5.jpg)

Man, this guy is good...
(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7417/dsc03452jr6.jpg)
(http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/7901/dsc03464ps3.jpg)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: juanch on Jan 31, 2011 at 09:05 PM
beautiful curves  ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: warmaster on May 21, 2011 at 08:39 AM
would the wharfedale diamond 9.3 be good speakers for a dedicated audio setup? or mas ok yung 9.6 na floorstanders? trip ko kasi yung 8" na drivers niya, hopefully di ko ma bottom out  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: c.a. on May 31, 2011 at 04:21 PM
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would the wharfedale diamond 9.3 be good speakers for a dedicated audio setup? or mas ok yung 9.6 na floorstanders? trip ko kasi yung 8" na drivers niya, hopefully di ko ma bottom out  :D
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for me the 9.3  would definitely be good... but the 9.6 would definitely be better... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Jun 01, 2011 at 04:04 AM
The 9.6 plays lower, but places funny loads on the amp. It takes a high current amp to really make it sing. The 9.3 will do great with just about any reasonable amp.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Allan_2180 on Jun 01, 2011 at 09:54 AM
would the wharfedale diamond 9.3 be good speakers for a dedicated audio setup? or mas ok yung 9.6 na floorstanders? trip ko kasi yung 8" na drivers niya, hopefully di ko ma bottom out  :D

9.6 floorstanders is a speaker that doesnt fatigue my ears, it is musical,laid back and sometimes no need for a subwoofer when hooked up to High Instantaneous Current Capable AVR.
Just recently added a pair of 4KHz 89dB Silk Dome Tweets still laid back with a bit of sparkling highs...  :D
di ko lang alam kung magiging laid back pa din ito when paired with a Pioneer amp.   ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Jun 01, 2011 at 02:33 PM
di ko lang alam kung magiging laid back pa din ito when paired with a Pioneer amp.   ;)

Laid-back pa din. Pioneers are not forward naman, though they tend to have a bit more zing sa highs.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: warmaster on Jun 01, 2011 at 03:02 PM
The 9.6 plays lower, but places funny loads on the amp. It takes a high current amp to really make it sing. The 9.3 will do great with just about any reasonable amp.

ano bang power rating ng amp ang babagay sa 9.6? i have a 9 x16 (feet) iniisip ko rin na baka overkill na yung 9.6, though hinahabol ko lang yung mid driver niya na wala sa 9.3. plus, the 9.3 is way cheaper  ;D dedicated audio setup sana. would a 60w per channel int amp drive the 9.6? or should i go for a 9.3 and miss out on the midrange of the 9.6?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Jun 01, 2011 at 06:12 PM
I suggest you pair it with a high powered amp like rotel or nad to drive those kevlar cone speakers.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Jun 02, 2011 at 09:14 PM
You won't realize the advantage of dedicated mids when your amp is toiling. The 9.6 also crosses those dome mids pretty high, kaya reduced din yung advantage sa midrange. The better low end extension is evident though.

When looking for a suitable amp for the 9.6:
Don't just look at the claimed amp wattage, but also the amp's current capability. Heavier load kasi siya in terms of impedance and phase angle.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: warmaster on Jun 12, 2011 at 09:24 PM
You won't realize the advantage of dedicated mids when your amp is toiling. The 9.6 also crosses those dome mids pretty high, kaya reduced din yung advantage sa midrange. The better low end extension is evident though.

When looking for a suitable amp for the 9.6:
Don't just look at the claimed amp wattage, but also the amp's current capability. Heavier load kasi siya in terms of impedance and phase angle.

i see. any suggestion on what stereo amp can drive the 9.3's? hopefully not with a heavy price tag, it's getting really hard to have budget approved by the C.O.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Jun 12, 2011 at 10:42 PM
i see. any suggestion on what stereo amp can drive the 9.3's? hopefully not with a heavy price tag, it's getting really hard to have budget approved by the C.O.  ;D

In a small room, most amps delivering 30 to 50W should be enough for typical listening levels (no large-scale orchestral works at elevated volumes). Of course, more doesn't hurt (and less isn't necessarily bad, depending on your needs). The 9.3 is a fairly benign load, so the amp doesn't have to be very high-current.

Entry level integrated amps like the Marantz PM5003/PM5004, NAD C315BEE/C316BEE, CA 340A/350A, Rotel RA-04/RA-04SE or Rega Brio/Brio2/Brio3 won't sweat driving these speakers. Reasonably-powerful budget t-amps like the Dayton DTA-100a can drive them as well. You just have to find the right sound for you.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: warmaster on Jun 19, 2011 at 08:21 AM
thanks for the replies. unfortunately i have to put this project on hold as a more important event is "on the way"  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Blackstar on Jul 01, 2011 at 08:18 PM
thanks for the replies. unfortunately i have to put this project on hold as a more important event is "on the way"  ;)

congratulations on the more important event that's "on the way" brader. makakaantay yang project mo pero walang pinakamagandang project kundi yang parating. :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: cray on Jul 03, 2011 at 03:22 PM
sir ask lang po sana ako kung saan makakabili ng compatible na ceiling mount para sa diamond 9 sr. ayaw kasi ng wife ko i move yung mga furniture para sa speaker stand kaya ceiling lang po ang choice ko.. and gusto ko po sana mag dagdag ng subwoofer ang concern ko lng po is nasa condo ako.. maririnig po kaya ito neighbor ko? bali im currently using diamond 9.1, 9cs, 9 sr and vsx 520 thanks po
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: cjsdaddy on Jul 03, 2011 at 05:11 PM
pwede ba tangalin yung plastic dun sa gitna ng pasukan ng banana plug ng 9.1? how?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Jul 03, 2011 at 05:22 PM
pwede ba tangalin yung plastic dun sa gitna ng pasukan ng banana plug ng 9.1? how?

Take out the binding post thumbscrew, then poke the plastic plug out by pushing it with something thin (like a small screwdriver or an unwound paper clip) from the speaker wire hole.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jhelenz on Jul 18, 2011 at 12:50 PM
hi guys,mas ok ba kung magpalit ako from 9.1 to dfs for rear  surrounds (5.1)?i have only one problem.yung seating position ko kasi is againt the wall,walang paraan para mailagay ko yung speakers sa side so sa likod  nakalagay yung current rear ko na 9.1 w/c is about 6 ft high and 5 ft yung layo nya from my seating position.ayaw din kasi ni misis na ilayo ko yung sofa sa back wall.will i hear improvements dun sa dfs or hould i stick to my 9.1?thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: merdenoms on Jul 22, 2011 at 11:34 PM
would be a wharfedale 9.6 FS suffice to a 3.5mx3.5 room size? or overkill?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Jul 23, 2011 at 01:13 PM
I think overkill better than you thinking at the back of your mind...what if ;D Make considerations Lang siguro for other stuff Sir, av rack, couch, center speaker, rear speakers etc.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: pa3ck608 on Jul 23, 2011 at 01:44 PM
would be a wharfedale 9.6 FS suffice to a 3.5mx3.5 room size? or overkill?

its not only the room size that should be the issue, but also the amp you are going to use to drive the 9.6. you need a powerful amp for this pair of speakr to sing very well. ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: merdenoms on Jul 23, 2011 at 02:10 PM
based on your experience sir... what amp(maybe 20k below) would contemplate the wharfs 9.6? i'm into the warm side(the not fatiguing listening experience) 60 Music 40 HT.. thanks for the reply
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: pa3ck608 on Jul 23, 2011 at 03:18 PM
based on your experience sir... what amp(maybe 20k below) would contemplate the wharfs 9.6? i'm into the warm side(the not fatiguing listening experience) 60 Music 40 HT.. thanks for the reply

i cant think of any that would fit your budget. either you go for easy to drive speakers to partner with budget amps, or stick with the 9.6 but stretch your budget for an amp a lot further.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: c.a. on Jul 23, 2011 at 05:17 PM
would be a wharfedale 9.6 FS suffice to a 3.5mx3.5 room size? or overkill?

 i think, it would be just fine... i'm using my 9.6 in a 3mx3.5m room... proper positioning lang ok na.. better if you can use acoustic treatment... but i have to say, the 9.6's performed  better when i was using it in a bigger room..  for the amp, why don't you just get a vintage integrated amp.. i think you can find a good one for less than 10k.. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jhelenz on Jul 23, 2011 at 07:18 PM
based on your experience sir... what amp(maybe 20k below) would contemplate the wharfs 9.6? i'm into the warm side(the not fatiguing listening experience) 60 Music 40 HT.. thanks for the reply
abang ka lang sa markeplace,merong binenta si billabong na yamaha rx v2400 kaya lang nabili na.yung denon 3805 na binebenta ni simple di ko alam kung available pa.less than 20k yung dalawang powerful receiver na yan
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Allan_2180 on Jul 24, 2011 at 11:47 AM
Listening area ko 4m X 4m pero 9.6 ang gmit ko, never an overkill, pdeng wg na gmitan ng sub, mas detailed ang mga lower freqs. Laid back kc 9.6 pde m lgyan ng silk dome tweeters pra mas mging lively ng kaunti. s space cguro mga 2ft lng kakaining space mula s wall parang bukshelf na may stand lng din.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: warmaster on Jul 24, 2011 at 02:00 PM
congratulations on the more important event that's "on the way" brader. makakaantay yang project mo pero walang pinakamagandang project kundi yang parating. :D

thanks men. makiki listening session na lang ako sa newly acquired 9.6 mo. hehehe ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Jimbo on Jul 25, 2011 at 08:27 AM
fellow members,

my wharfedale 9.1 has a torn driver, any chance this could be repaired?
thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: armymanhaha on Jul 26, 2011 at 01:39 PM
Bakit kaya sobrang mura ng Wharfedale speakers dito sa atin?  ??? Is there any chance that some of these are counterfeits or 'White van speakers'? I doubt that they are fake dahil napaka ganda ng build and sounds, sobrang curious lang ako sa mark down ng prices pagdating dito sa tin.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Jul 27, 2011 at 03:51 PM
Bakit kaya sobrang mura ng Wharfedale speakers dito sa atin?  ??? Is there any chance that some of these are counterfeits or 'White van speakers'? I doubt that they are fake dahil napaka ganda ng build and sounds, sobrang curious lang ako sa mark down ng prices pagdating dito sa tin.

Mukhang okay ang deal ng Zamony (distributor) sa IAG, kaya nakukuha nila ng mura. Fortunately, pinapasa ng Zamony most ng savings to the end user (or so it seems).
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mcjefferson on Jul 27, 2011 at 04:14 PM
Hi to all wharf owner, i'm glad i found this thread as i plan to have a wharf 9.2
need help from you guys, ok po ba gamitin ang 9.2 sa amp na to? will use it as my main.

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff108/mc_jefferson/hts5300.jpg)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Jul 27, 2011 at 05:28 PM
Bakit kaya sobrang mura ng Wharfedale speakers dito sa atin?  ??? Is there any chance that some of these are counterfeits or 'White van speakers'? I doubt that they are fake dahil napaka ganda ng build and sounds, sobrang curious lang ako sa mark down ng prices pagdating dito sa tin.

Definitely genuine, brand-new items.  Mura ang price, kasi iyon ang pricing strategy ng Philippine distributor.  Marketing strategy ng mga old-school Chinoy traders yan.

Around 20 years na ang ganyang pricing sa Philippines ng mga Wharfe.  Hindi marked-down yan.  Tumaas pa nga nang konti ang presyo e.

 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Jul 27, 2011 at 08:46 PM
Hi to all wharf owner, i'm glad i found this thread as i plan to have a wharf 9.2
need help from you guys, ok po ba gamitin ang 9.2 sa amp na to? will use it as my main.

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff108/mc_jefferson/hts5300.jpg)

That should be enough to drive the 9.2 to satisfactory levels for the majority of applications (though the ratings seem to be a single channel and single frequency reading). If you have space for the 9.3, I suggest you step up to the 9.3. I find them more neutral overall, for just a little bit more.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: armymanhaha on Jul 27, 2011 at 10:26 PM
@barrister and stagea

thanks sa mga replies. na-liwanagan ako. nagtataka kasi yung tropa kong into headphones eh alam naman natin sa headphones maraming counterfeit kaya na raise nya yung question na yun.

BTW, wala pa ko nakikitang seller ng high-end products ng wharfedale dito satin. may possibility kaya na mura din sila dito satin?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mcjefferson on Jul 28, 2011 at 07:30 AM
That should be enough to drive the 9.2 to satisfactory levels for the majority of applications (though the ratings seem to be a single channel and single frequency reading). If you have space for the 9.3, I suggest you step up to the 9.3. I find them more neutral overall, for just a little bit more.
thanks sir for your thoughts, kaya pa po kaya i drive ni amp ang 9.3? pwede pa din ba sa high volume?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Jul 28, 2011 at 10:37 AM
BTW, wala pa ko nakikitang seller ng high-end products ng wharfedale dito satin. may possibility kaya na mura din sila dito satin?

I don't think the distro stocks higher end models. You can contact them, in case they can order it for you.

 
thanks sir for your thoughts, kaya pa po kaya i drive ni amp ang 9.3? pwede pa din ba sa high volume?

The 9.3 is almost as easy to drive as the 9.2, and actually needs less voltage to get to the same loudness level. Even entry-level AVRs can power them satisfactorily (though they do sound better with high-current components).
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Jul 28, 2011 at 10:44 AM
BTW, wala pa ko nakikitang seller ng high-end products ng wharfedale dito satin. may possibility kaya na mura din sila dito satin?

Ang alam ko, pag retailer ng Wharfedale Diamond, retailer din siya ng higher-end Wharfedale.  Order-basis kasi ang mga high-end, kaya hindi naitn nakikita na naka-display sa store nila.

Expected naman na wala silang stocks on hand, kasi mahina ang benta pag high-end model.

May discussions din tayo ng Vardus and Evo dito:

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=86563.0
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=59026.0

Mura din yan, compared with US and Euro SRP.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mcjefferson on Jul 28, 2011 at 11:02 AM
The 9.3 is almost as easy to drive as the 9.2, and actually needs less voltage to get to the same loudness level. Even entry-level AVRs can power them satisfactorily (though they do sound better with high-current components).
Thanks sir i will purchased this one soon instead of 9.2.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Questor on Jul 28, 2011 at 11:53 AM
i have been using a pair of 9.1s and they're singing nicely with either of my tubed 30watt dared i30 or 50watt nad 320bee. the 9.2 should be an easy drive for your amp though the real test is by listening. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mcjefferson on Jul 29, 2011 at 04:48 PM
That should be enough to drive the 9.2 to satisfactory levels for the majority of applications (though the ratings seem to be a single channel and single frequency reading). If you have space for the 9.3, I suggest you step up to the 9.3. I find them more neutral overall, for just a little bit more.
Sir want to ask something again, ano po ba difference ng single channel / single frequency reading compare sa mga other amp?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Jul 29, 2011 at 08:04 PM
Sir want to ask something again, ano po ba difference ng single channel / single frequency reading compare sa mga other amp?

The numbers would typically be numerically higher than a full-bandwidth and/or all-channels driven reading.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: c.a. on Jul 30, 2011 at 01:41 PM
single frequency reading means that the amplifier is rated at only one given frequency and not the whole bandwidth. in short it is not true rated because it is only rated at a given frequency... for me true rated amps are rated at 20hz-20khz @ 8ohms.. some manufacturers use single frequency reading to make their amps look more powerful than it really is, sort of a marketing strategy...

not an expert advice but hope this helps..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mcjefferson on Jul 30, 2011 at 05:10 PM
single frequency reading means that the amplifier is rated at only one given frequency and not the whole bandwidth. in short it is not true rated because it is only rated at a given frequency... for me true rated amps are rated at 20hz-20khz @ 8ohms.. some manufacturers use single frequency reading to make their amps look more powerful than it really is, sort of a marketing strategy...

not an expert advice but hope this helps..
The numbers would typically be numerically higher than a full-bandwidth and/or all-channels driven reading.
Thanks to all the infos mga sir. I made my decision and stick to 9.3 and 9cs as for now(wla pa budget sa surround,i will use my current surround for the moment). lubos lubosin ko na mga sir, saang store po ba available and sell at cheaper price ang diamond 9? I will use this pala mostly in listening music and 30-40% watching movies/playing games. would this set-up will be fine?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Jul 31, 2011 at 03:09 AM
Thanks to all the infos mga sir. I made my decision and stick to 9.3 and 9cs as for now(wla pa budget sa surround,i will use my current surround for the moment). lubos lubosin ko na mga sir, saang store po ba available and sell at cheaper price ang diamond 9? I will use this pala mostly in listening music and 30-40% watching movies/playing games. would this set-up will be fine? my receiver is onkyo htib(hts5300).

This would work. You may want to listen to other speakers as well, particularly those that are very easy to drive (like the Polk M series).
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barricades on Jul 31, 2011 at 05:50 PM
Which is better in playing all kinds of music 9.2 or 9.3?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: FrancisS on Aug 13, 2011 at 05:14 PM
i have not heard the 9.2, but the 9.3s are doing good naman for music. I'm using them as fronts, my amp is an onkyo 609.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Aug 13, 2011 at 05:37 PM
Which is better in playing all kinds of music 9.2 or 9.3?

Try them both, but I prefer the 9.3. It doesn't have the artificial bump on the lows that the 9.1 and the 9.2 have to make up for the lack of absolute extension. This makes them sound more open and neutral, or less congested, nasal and boomy. Look for gear that will partner well with them.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Aug 14, 2011 at 02:20 AM
one of my 9.1s conked out. im getting a very low output compared to the other working speaker. mga sirs crossover ba yung problem or yung driver?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Aug 14, 2011 at 03:16 AM
one of my 9.1s conked out. im getting a very low output compared to the other working speaker. mga sirs crossover ba yung problem or yung driver?

It could be either, depende sa output. Buksan mo na lang para matest mabuti. Or paservice mo. If you're gonna replace a part, you may want to replace the part in pairs (both sides) to ensure good matching.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Verbl Kint on Aug 14, 2011 at 04:59 AM
Do retailers also sell speaker grills?  I'm thinking of replacing the ones on my 9.5.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Aug 14, 2011 at 11:54 AM
It could be either, depende sa output. Buksan mo na lang para matest mabuti. Or paservice mo. If you're gonna replace a part, you may want to replace the part in pairs (both sides) to ensure good matching.

Binuksan ko kagabi but did not noticed any visible defect on both driver and crossover. Naalala ni misis pinihit ni baby yung volume ng Onkyo AVR last week. Now, I have a better argument to upgrade.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: armymanhaha on Aug 14, 2011 at 12:13 PM
Nagpa service din ako ng Wharfedale 10.1 ko sa Listening Room sa Mega. Yung isang speaker kasi nagkakaron ng clapping sound pag may bass na below 100hz. Di pa rin nakakabalik yung unit sakin ngayon after 1week. Ang problema ko ngayon is yung matching ng speakers since di nila kinuha yung ka partner na isang speaker, yung may defect lang. Pede ko kaya i-request na palitan din yung isang walang defect na unit?

PS. I know this is the Diamond 9 series, kaso eto lang alam kong mapagtatanungan.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: FrancisS on Aug 14, 2011 at 11:38 PM
Try them both, but I prefer the 9.3. It doesn't have the artificial bump on the lows that the 9.1 and the 9.2 have to make up for the lack of absolute extension. This makes them sound more open and neutral, or less congested, nasal and boomy. Look for gear that will partner well with them.

I agree with this, I used to have 9.1s for fronts, mas masarap pakinggan yung 9.3.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Aug 15, 2011 at 03:31 AM
I agree with this, I used to have 9.1s for fronts, mas masarap pakinggan yung 9.3.

I've tried the entire Diamond 9 line, and I liked the 9.3 and the 9.6 best (of this bunch). The 9.6 however, only sounds its best with a strong amplifier. The 9.6 needs an amp with a lot of current capacity, because of wild impedance dips and highly negative phase angles. For most HT setups (entry level to midlevel AVR powered), I suggest looking at the 9.3 instead. They're fairly forgiving speakers, and are not very difficult to drive. They do lack absolute LF extension, which the 9.6 delivers. However, in an HT setup, the sub can handle those frequencies. Use thick cables, toe the speakers in, take out the grilles, cross them at around 60Hz, and you'd likely be set (you can handle the EQ-ing and time alignment adjustments, as necessary).

There are also other speaker options out there, and it's always best to hunt around and hear the set that you like best. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Verbl Kint on Aug 15, 2011 at 05:13 AM
Do retailers also sell speaker grills?  I'm thinking of replacing the ones on my 9.5.

Any help would be appreciated. ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Aug 15, 2011 at 07:10 AM
Do retailers also sell speaker grills?  I'm thinking of replacing the ones on my 9.5.

I'm not sure, but I don't think so. I suggest that you contact Zamony directly.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Verbl Kint on Aug 15, 2011 at 07:53 AM
I'm not sure, but I don't think so. I suggest that you contact Zamony directly.

Thanks!  I'll look them up. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: FrancisS on Aug 18, 2011 at 05:40 PM
I've tried the entire Diamond 9 line, and I liked the 9.3 and the 9.6 best (of this bunch). The 9.6 however, only sounds its best with a strong amplifier. The 9.6 needs an amp with a lot of current capacity, because of wild impedance dips and highly negative phase angles. For most HT setups (entry level to midlevel AVR powered), I suggest looking at the 9.3 instead. They're fairly forgiving speakers, and are not very difficult to drive. They do lack absolute LF extension, which the 9.6 delivers. However, in an HT setup, the sub can handle those frequencies. Use thick cables, toe the speakers in, take out the grilles, cross them at around 60Hz, and you'd likely be set (you can handle the EQ-ing and time alignment adjustments, as necessary).

There are also other speaker options out there, and it's always best to hunt around and hear the set that you like best. :)

I set mine at 80hz, would 60hz be better?  I crossed my 9CM and 9.1(rears) to 80hz as well.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Aug 19, 2011 at 03:26 PM
I set mine at 80hz, would 60hz be better?  I crossed my 9CM and 9.1(rears) to 80hz as well.

Try 50 or 60Hz with the 9.3, then try 70Hz with the 9.CM and the 9.1.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: FrancisS on Aug 19, 2011 at 09:21 PM
ok, I'll try that, I actually tried to cross them all at 60hz last night.  I'll try naman these settings you suggest.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: FrancisS on Aug 20, 2011 at 02:07 PM
Try 50 or 60Hz with the 9.3, then try 70Hz with the 9.CM and the 9.1.

sounds good! :)

The 9.3s are now set to 50hz., the 9cm and 9.1 at 70hz.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: squatt3r on Aug 20, 2011 at 09:30 PM
Binuksan ko kagabi but did not noticed any visible defect on both driver and crossover. Naalala ni misis pinihit ni baby yung volume ng Onkyo AVR last week. Now, I have a better argument to upgrade.

bad trip napagana ko ulit yung defective speaker. sira lang pala yung resistor sa crossover
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: crazyhog on Sep 02, 2011 at 12:17 AM
ask lang ako guys, planning to buy BS front speaker as an upgrade to my HTiB ONKYO 3400. Wharf's 9.2 is my prospect. Actually i tried my brothers dia8.2 and it was good improvement from stock FS, so my question is, ok lang ba and kaya ba ng amp ko etong 9.2? when i tested the 8.2, mejo mainit un amp ( normal ba eto ?) and my volume is around 40 to 55.

eto un amp spec
(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/9350/ampspec.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/ampspec.jpg/)

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wharf's 9.2
        BASS   6.5
   TWEETER   25mm tex
   POWER   20-100W
   NOMINAL IMPEDANCE   6ohm
   SENSITIVITY   86dB
   FREQUENCY   45-24k @ -6dB
   CROSSOVER   2.0k
        FREQUENCY FB   45Hz
   DIMENSIONS   223x364x301


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Sep 02, 2011 at 12:24 AM
ask lang ako guys, planning to buy BS front speaker as an upgrade to my HTiB ONKYO 3400. Wharf's 9.2 is my prospect. Actually i tried my brothers dia8.2 and it was good improvement from stock FS, so my question is, ok lang ba and kaya ba ng amp ko etong 9.2? when i tested the 8.2, mejo mainit un amp ( normal ba eto ?) and my volume is around 40 to 55.

eto un amp spec
(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/9350/ampspec.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/ampspec.jpg/)

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wharf's 9.2
        BASS   6.5
   TWEETER   25mm tex
   POWER   20-100W
   NOMINAL IMPEDANCE   6ohm
   SENSITIVITY   86dB
   FREQUENCY   45-24k @ -6dB
   CROSSOVER   2.0k
        FREQUENCY FB   45Hz
   DIMENSIONS   223x364x301




Aandar naman yan. Check mo din yung 9.3, which for me is noticeably better than the 9.2. Take note na medyo iba yung tunog ng Diamond 9 series sa Diamond 8, kung Diamond 8 ang gusto mo.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: crazyhog on Sep 02, 2011 at 07:16 AM
Aandar naman yan. Check mo din yung 9.3, which for me is noticeably better than the 9.2. Take note na medyo iba yung tunog ng Diamond 9 series sa Diamond 8, kung Diamond 8 ang gusto mo.

Aandar naman yan......pero not in danger zone naman un akin reciever?
iba yung tunog ng Diamond 9 series sa Diamond 8....... pero mas better ba un dia9? and since higher eto, d kaya ako magka problema matching w/ my present reciever?

TIA
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: FrancisS on Sep 05, 2011 at 11:17 PM
I've been reading tweaks for other speakers (like using a wire for the binding post), has anybody used or tried any "tweak" for the wharfe 9 series?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 05, 2011 at 11:27 PM
I've been reading tweaks for other speakers (like using a wire for the binding post), has anybody used or tried any "tweak" for the wharfe 9 series?

 i did i used jumper cables from cjtjader
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Sep 05, 2011 at 11:41 PM
Aandar naman yan......pero not in danger zone naman un akin reciever?
iba yung tunog ng Diamond 9 series sa Diamond 8....... pero mas better ba un dia9? and since higher eto, d kaya ako magka problema matching w/ my present reciever?

TIA

Try before you buy. Dalhin mo AVR mo sa store para may idea ka sa resulting sound. The AVR won't be in danger naman, unless you play irresponsibly.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: FrancisS on Sep 06, 2011 at 06:36 AM
i did i used jumper cables from cjtjader

What are jumper cables sir? sorry not too familiar with cables? Jumper cables I know are the ones used in car batteries, hehe.  What effect did this tweak give you?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: markcrenz on Sep 06, 2011 at 06:59 PM
What are jumper cables sir? sorry not too familiar with cables? Jumper cables I know are the ones used in car batteries, hehe.  What effect did this tweak give you?
ganito yun bro, pampalit sa 2 jumpers ng 4-terminal bi-wirable speakers:
(http://x59.xanga.com/3adc816510d30224406761/z176324733.jpg)
(http://www.in-akustik.com/downloads/bilder/KuZ/med/0084221.jpg)
(http://www.analogueseduction.net/pub/files/INTERCONNECTS/1264460558_CLJP1.jpg)
personally i haven't tried these, my tin ears won't probably perceive the "improvement" of a few microhenrys inductance, milliohms resistance and picofarads of capacitance in such a short length of wire.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: FrancisS on Sep 06, 2011 at 08:25 PM
ganito yun bro, pampalit sa 2 jumpers ng 4-terminal bi-wirable speakers:
(http://x59.xanga.com/3adc816510d30224406761/z176324733.jpg)
(http://www.in-akustik.com/downloads/bilder/KuZ/med/0084221.jpg)
(http://www.analogueseduction.net/pub/files/INTERCONNECTS/1264460558_CLJP1.jpg)
personally i haven't tried these, my tin ears won't probably perceive the "improvement" of a few microhenrys inductance, milliohms resistance and picofarads of capacitance in such a short length of wire.

Thanks, can these cables be bought or are they DIY?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Sep 07, 2011 at 08:57 AM
ganito yun bro, pampalit sa 2 jumpers ng 4-terminal bi-wirable speakers:
(http://x59.xanga.com/3adc816510d30224406761/z176324733.jpg)

I Like!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: FrancisS on Sep 07, 2011 at 09:44 AM
I Like!!!

have u tried it bro?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Sep 07, 2011 at 11:37 AM
have u tried it bro?

Never disconnected the stock ones installed on my Diamonds ;D  These look so much cooler!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: markcrenz on Sep 07, 2011 at 11:50 AM
Never disconnected the stock ones installed on my Diamonds ;D  These look so much cooler!
yup they do! another piece of audio jewelry.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Sep 07, 2011 at 01:15 PM
yup they do! another piece of audio jewelry.  ;D

Speakers mo yung nakapost Sir?  Nice jumpers!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: markcrenz on Sep 08, 2011 at 09:08 AM
Speakers mo yung nakapost Sir?  Nice jumpers!
nope, pic lang yan sa net. can't afford jewelry brader!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: FrancisS on Sep 09, 2011 at 01:09 PM
Try Aaudio's tweak for our Wharfedales, grabe improvement.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: joko11 on Sep 17, 2011 at 08:22 PM
Try Aaudio's tweak for our Wharfedales, grabe improvement.  ;D
master jammy also told me about this tweak.
maybe pag hawak ko na si 9.6 :D
il let go of my current front (9.2) once i got my dream FS and have it tweaked by master A
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: My_einjels on Sep 22, 2011 at 12:20 PM
Try Aaudio's tweak for our Wharfedales, grabe improvement.  ;D


sir can you redirect me the link about this Aaudio's tweak. thanks alot...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: FrancisS on Sep 22, 2011 at 12:25 PM

sir can you redirect me the link about this Aaudio's tweak. thanks alot...

I'll try to find the link, but you may contact Aaudio directly. what model of the 9 series are you using?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: My_einjels on Sep 22, 2011 at 03:11 PM
I'll try to find the link, but you may contact Aaudio directly. what model of the 9 series are you using?

ok bro, im using 9.4, 9cm, and 9dfs, is that a upgrade kit??? can you pm me the cost  ;) ??? how will you rate the improvements on our wharfes?? thanks alot brother...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: FrancisS on Sep 22, 2011 at 10:38 PM
ok bro, im using 9.4, 9cm, and 9dfs, is that a upgrade kit??? can you pm me the cost  ;) ??? how will you rate the improvements on our wharfes?? thanks alot brother...


there was at least 60% improvement on my speakers, its a lot more relaxing to listen to.

you got PM
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: My_einjels on Sep 22, 2011 at 10:50 PM
there was at least 60% improvement on my speakers, its a lot more relaxing to listen to.

you got PM


copy brother  ;) , thanks alot... by the way, what type of tweeter did sir anthony used??
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: praktikal on Sep 22, 2011 at 10:50 PM
there was at least 60% improvement on my speakers, its a lot more relaxing to listen to.

you got PM

60%? That's huge! Parang nakamaskara na lang sila...  ::) ;)

Cheap and praktikal solution indeed!  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: joko11 on Sep 22, 2011 at 10:59 PM
PM me too guys :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: volcomstoner on Sep 24, 2011 at 11:16 AM
hi mga sir.
tanung ko lang po..ok po ba ang 9.6 for  rock/metal songs? magkano kaya ngayon un? thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Sep 25, 2011 at 06:57 AM
hi mga sir.
tanung ko lang po..ok po ba ang 9.6 for  rock/metal songs? magkano kaya ngayon un? thanks!

It works if you have the gear to drive it well, and that often costs a bit more than these speakers. I also prefer lively-sounding components to match with these units.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: c.a. on Sep 25, 2011 at 09:13 PM
hi mga sir.
tanung ko lang po..ok po ba ang 9.6 for  rock/metal songs? magkano kaya ngayon un? thanks!


ok po, provided you have an amp that would be strong enough...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: joko11 on Sep 26, 2011 at 12:05 AM
the question is..
how strong the avr should be? ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Sep 26, 2011 at 10:14 AM
the question is..
how strong the avr should be? ;)

Most AVRs do not have the current capacity and damping to bring the best out of these speakers. They still sound decent in most cases, but they sound quite a bit better with burlier upstream components. I also suggest getting those with livelier sonic characteristics, as most people find these speakers needing an extra dose of excitement.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: joko11 on Sep 26, 2011 at 10:45 AM
Most AVRs do not have the current capacity and damping to bring the best out of these speakers. They still sound decent in most cases, but they sound quite a bit better with burlier upstream components. I also suggest getting those with livelier sonic characteristics, as most people find these speakers needing an extra dose of excitement.


english master stagea please  ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ryan750 on Oct 14, 2011 at 11:42 PM
Can someone show me the schematics of 9.1 crossover?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: volcomstoner on Oct 25, 2011 at 07:39 PM
the question is..
how strong the avr should be? ;)


hi sir..i recently acquired a Denon DRA 685?100wpc modded already to make it more lively..(according  to the first owner..sir soundgarden..)
for 2 channel audio lang po sana..for metal genre..pwede kaya talaga 9.6?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: joko11 on Oct 26, 2011 at 03:37 AM
im no audiphile but wharfe is no good at music.
;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Oct 26, 2011 at 09:25 AM

hi sir..i recently acquired a Denon DRA 685?100wpc modded already to make it more lively..(according  to the first owner..sir soundgarden..)
for 2 channel audio lang po sana..for metal genre..pwede kaya talaga 9.6?

At what levels do you plan to play your music? ;D  I have 9.6's.  They should sing. ;)
im no audiphile but wharfe is no good at music.
;)

I am no audiophile too. But who really is?  Sound engineers? Those who design and make speakers for a living? I respect and appreciate those whose passion is like mine- to be able to enjoy great movies and music given what resources we have. Like Sheryl Crow says, and my ears agree "If it makes you happy, it can't be that bad".  Have had my Wharfedales for serveral years. now and could not be happier.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: pa3ck608 on Oct 26, 2011 at 10:19 AM
im no audiphile but wharfe is no good at music.
;)

ganyan din ang paniwala ko dati pero maganda pala ito, maselan lng sa tingin ko. kung  papartneran ito ng price-matched gears ay di talaga tutunog ng maganda. refer to this quote:
Most AVRs do not have the current capacity and damping to bring the best out of these speakers. They still sound decent in most cases, but they sound quite a bit better with burlier upstream components. I also suggest getting those with livelier sonic characteristics, as most people find these speakers needing an extra dose of excitement.


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: armymanhaha on Oct 26, 2011 at 11:04 AM
The Diamond series loves more current. Of course it'll sound like ass fart if you drive it with unworthy gears. Go to The Listening Room and ask for a proper audition with a good beefy amp and you'll see what I mean.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: c.a. on Oct 26, 2011 at 12:22 PM
The Diamond series loves more current. Of course it'll sound like ass fart if you drive it with unworthy gears. Go to The Listening Room and ask for a proper audition with a good beefy amp and you'll see what I mean.

+1

i once used a Harman kardon hk3350 (30wpc) to drive my 9.6 and i was really disappointed by how it sounds, but when i used it with a 90wpc sansui au-@607 the 9.6 sang, it was able to open up, detailed highs, textured mids and deep bass.. but of course you also have to take in consideration proper positioning and adequate room size.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: cnn on Oct 26, 2011 at 12:46 PM
im no audiphile but wharfe is no good at music.
;)

I disagree.... Using 9.5s and 9CM with paradigm subs... Really enjoying jazz audio sessions at home... Ang Ganda ng SQ and imaging with EARTH WIND & FIRE.... FOURPLAY.... DAVID BENOIT.... ETC....

I guess iba iba lang talaga ang taste natin... Some prefer whafedales.... Others prefer different brands....

Depende sa user/listener...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: joko11 on Oct 26, 2011 at 01:13 PM
dont get me wrong guys.i use wharfe for my whole set ups.and also had audio files on my servers in flac format.but when im listening to those flac's i couldnt just enjoy to the fullest whats wharfe given me.i just need more ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: cnn on Oct 26, 2011 at 01:19 PM
dont get me wrong guys.i use wharfe for my whole set ups.and also had audio files on my servers in flac format.but when im listening to those flac's i couldnt just enjoy to the fullest whats wharfe given me.i just need more ;)


 ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Oct 26, 2011 at 01:29 PM
The Diamond series loves more current. Of course it'll sound like ass fart if you drive it with unworthy gears. Go to The Listening Room and ask for a proper audition with a good beefy amp and you'll see what I mean.

I could not agree more. The bookshelf models typically drop below 4 ohms, while the hardest to drive one (the 9.6) drops to the 2 ohm zone (and at the same time gets quite capacitive). Entry level to midlevel AVRs may not have the stiffness to maintain signal integrity when driving such a load. The 9.6 lumbers around sluggishly with no sense of sparkle or impact with the wrong amplifier. A high current solid state amplifier is what I'd recommend with these speakers. It'd take an expensive tube amplifier (or a purpose-built one) to be up to that task.

Most people pair these things with budget AVRs and amplifiers because of the low price, but that could be a recipe for disaster (well, disappointment to be exact). They're among the most current-hungry speakers in this price segment, and that spoils their budget-friendliness (in terms of system cost).

I'm not saying that a good amp will make these speakers blow exotica out of the water, but they will sound appreciably better. The reason why they've gotten good reviews abroad despite the higher prices in those markets is probably because those reviewers had the right gear to match (aside from individual preferences).

For people looking for same-priced speakers for entry level AVRs, there are speakers that don't need much current or grip. The Polk M series for example, is particularly suitable for this application.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: buzzworth on Oct 29, 2011 at 06:01 AM
dont get me wrong guys.i use wharfe for my whole set ups.and also had audio files on my servers in flac format.but when im listening to those flac's i couldnt just enjoy to the fullest whats wharfe given me.i just need more ;)

bro you may need to setup a dedicated audio system. I agree with most of the comments posted, Wharfedale speakers are current hungry, you will not be able to maximize them if you are going to drive them with AVR with limited power. I used to have a 9.6, when using with the Onkyo 606 and playing flac, I was really disappointed which made me decide to post and sell them here in PDVD. Then when i already got a buyer, 1 day before he gets the speaker, I tried connecting it to my Sony ES555  and wow, it was a whole different speaker playing all those lovely flacs....I almost called the buyer to cancel the deal  ;D... to make a long story short, for me, Wharf is a capable speaker but you need to have a good amp to make the Wharfedale sing.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: joko11 on Oct 29, 2011 at 06:09 AM
bro you may need to setup a dedicated audio system. I agree with most of the comments posted, Wharfedale speakers are current hungry, you will not be able to maximize them if you are going to drive them with AVR with limited power. I used to have a 9.6, when using with the Onkyo 606 and playing flac, I was really disappointed which made me decide to post and sell them here in PDVD. Then when i already got a buyer, 1 day before he gets the speaker, I tried connecting it to my Sony ES555  and wow, it was a whole different speaker playing all those lovely flacs....I almost called the buyer to cancel the deal  ;D... to make a long story short, for me, Wharf is a capable speaker but you need to have a good amp to make the Wharfedale sing.
mukang ganun na nga ang kahihinatnan brader :D
satisfied naman ako sa kanya as HT.
but as my music/emo listening is concern i need better power source to drive them.
mag tubo kaya ako? ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: buzzworth on Oct 29, 2011 at 09:45 AM
mukang ganun na nga ang kahihinatnan brader :D
satisfied naman ako sa kanya as HT.
but as my music/emo listening is concern i need better power source to drive them.
mag tubo kaya ako? ;D
bro, try mo yung mga vintage amp na naka for sale..if for audio setup and needs more juice, try mo yung Sansui o Pioneer, they will be able to drive those 9.1 or 9.6 wharfedale with ease. Right now, I have sansui amp for my pure audio setup and its driving my PSB and iba talaga...i'm sure ganyan din ang wharfedale speakers.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: volcomstoner on Oct 30, 2011 at 08:37 PM
bro, try mo yung mga vintage amp na naka for sale..if for audio setup and needs more juice, try mo yung Sansui o Pioneer, they will be able to drive those 9.1 or 9.6 wharfedale with ease. Right now, I have sansui amp for my pure audio setup and its driving my PSB and iba talaga...i'm sure ganyan din ang wharfedale speakers.


hi sir! how about denon dra 685 receiver  100watts per channel (with choke tweak by sir soundgarden)..he told me the tweak was to make the receiver more lively, can it power the 9.6? for audio set up? thanks..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Oct 30, 2011 at 09:14 PM
mag tubo kaya ako? ;D

That may be an upgrade in terms of sound character (for some), but it's most likely a downgrade in terms of current handling. You need a higher end valve amp to match the current capacity and damping that's available to most solid state gear.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: warmaster on Oct 31, 2011 at 09:37 AM
finally got my hands on a pair of 9.3's. any recommendations on what height of speaker stands i should use? thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Oct 31, 2011 at 10:05 AM
finally got my hands on a pair of 9.3's. any recommendations on what height of speaker stands i should use? thanks

That depends on how high you sit. Aim at getting the tweeters at or just below ear level, then just play with toe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: warmaster on Oct 31, 2011 at 03:00 PM
That depends on how high you sit. Aim at getting the tweeters at or just below ear level, then just play with toe.

thanks for the advice will play around with the speaker height and will be using 18" high plastic stools for now. may silbi na ulit ang monoblock chairs

(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/388408_10150379913942248_657962247_8377508_1884070117_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: FrancisS on Oct 31, 2011 at 11:11 PM
what's on top of the 9.3?  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: warmaster on Oct 31, 2011 at 11:21 PM
what's on top of the 9.3?  ;D

star wars phantom menace thing i got from pizza hut or kfc delivery a few years back
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: FrancisS on Nov 01, 2011 at 09:56 AM
star wars phantom menace thing i got from pizza hut or kfc delivery a few years back

i see, I thought it was an external tweeter or something. :)  I also have the 9.3. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: BigBert-2 on Nov 02, 2011 at 05:56 AM
dont get me wrong guys.i use wharfe for my whole set ups.and also had audio files on my servers in flac format.but when im listening to those flac's i couldnt just enjoy to the fullest whats wharfe given me.i just need more ;)


Try using Tube amp with at least 15Watts of power and maybe  you'll change you listening perspective. I'm driving my 9.1 with a SE KT88 and i'm very much satisfied with it. It's just me though.  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jhelenz on Nov 02, 2011 at 09:02 AM
dont get me wrong guys.i use wharfe for my whole set ups.and also had audio files on my servers in flac format.but when im listening to those flac's i couldnt just enjoy to the fullest whats wharfe given me.i just need more ;)

sayang joko hindi mo naabutan yung 9.3 ni ume.eto sana yung magandang kapartner ng 9cm mo.kung di naman kalakihan yung listening area mo mas yun to kaysa sa 9.6 (saka hindi mo na kailangan mag upgrade to a more powerful avr kung sakali).agree ako kay master stagea na etong 9.3 ang pinaka ok sa lahat ng diamond 9 series kasi nasubukan ko na lahat ng diamond 9 series except yung 9.2 mo.na miss ko nga yung sound character nya kaya nag pm ako kay ume a few weeks ago na kung sakali ibenta nya yung 9.3 na binil nya sa akin eh ialok nya muna sa akin.medyo hectic lang sched nung inalok nya sa akin pero kung umabot ngayung wednesday sigurado nasa akin na ulit yang 9.3 na yan
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: FrancisS on Nov 05, 2011 at 12:58 PM
9 series owners,
For those who did not BiAmp/BiWire, did u connect your speaker wires using the LF or HF at the rear of the speakers?
Which connection do you guys think is better, I know there should be no difference with the binding posts in place, but I think they sound better if connected to the LF, what do u guys think?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: volrathj on Nov 16, 2011 at 05:13 AM
Mga master pano ko i connect ang banana plugs sa binding post ng wharfy 9.1 ko may plastic na naka bara? Pano po tanggalin yon? Thanks in advance...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: joko11 on Nov 16, 2011 at 05:27 AM
^
madali lang po sungkitin yun :D
try nipper ;D
pwede rin sa likod tulak palabas ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: c.a. on Nov 16, 2011 at 12:34 PM
Mga master pano ko i connect ang banana plugs sa binding post ng wharfy 9.1 ko may plastic na naka bara? Pano po tanggalin yon? Thanks in advance...

paper clip ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: volrathj on Nov 17, 2011 at 02:18 AM
salamat mga master i'll try that.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: akocdex on Nov 17, 2011 at 09:47 AM
Mga sir, if wharfe 9.2, 9cs, 9dfs, have the same price as polk rti a3, csi a4, fxi a4, what would you choose?. I would also buy what avr best suits them. What I have right now is a pio 520k and bose 301, and i would like to change my system.

TIA
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: c.a. on Nov 17, 2011 at 10:37 AM
Mga sir, if wharfe 9.2, 9cs, 9dfs, have the same price as polk rti a3, csi a4, fxi a4, what would you choose?. I would also buy what avr best suits them. What I have right now is a pio 520k and bose 301, and i would like to change my system.

TIA


i might choose the polk line up. they have better finish (real wood veneer) and are easier to drive than the wharfes.  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: pa3ck608 on Nov 17, 2011 at 10:40 AM
Mga sir, if wharfe 9.2, 9cs, 9dfs, have the same price as polk rti a3, csi a4, fxi a4, what would you choose?. I would also buy what avr best suits them. What I have right now is a pio 520k and bose 301, and i would like to change my system.

TIA

i would go for polk not because its better sounding, but because its relatively easier to drive.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: joko11 on Nov 17, 2011 at 02:32 PM
polk is too bright for me at high volume but soften and more pleasing to listen when i turn down the volume knob of a denon 1911.naging mas klaro ang high and mid
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jackdee on Nov 17, 2011 at 03:30 PM
guys im planning to trade my Energy speakers to rosewood 9.6 and 9cm what you think? hihi
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: CMac on Nov 17, 2011 at 05:09 PM
guys im planning to trade my Energy speakers to rosewood 9.6 and 9cm what you think? hihi

energy take classics 5.0? i'd go for the trade 9.6 2nd hand price alone would go for at least 10 to 12k. 9cm, sa tingin ko di bababa ng 3.5k to 4k used price. have not really heard the energy line, but judging by the driver sizes, the wharfes would have more slam for ht.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: pa3ck608 on Nov 17, 2011 at 05:27 PM
guys im planning to trade my Energy speakers to rosewood 9.6 and 9cm what you think? hihi

you have to consider the amp that you plan to use for the wahrfes. make sure it has enough juice to drive the 9.6
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jackdee on Nov 17, 2011 at 10:10 PM
Here's my speakers sir..

http://www.audioenz.co.nz/2001/0704.html
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: CMac on Nov 17, 2011 at 10:26 PM
hmmmm... ipon ka na lang para svs sub, keep the energy's. that'll be a better upgrade if you do not have a good sub yet. just my opinion.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jackdee on Nov 18, 2011 at 06:54 AM
hmmmm... ipon ka na lang para svs sub, keep the energy's. that'll be a better upgrade if you do not have a good sub yet. just my opinion.

thanks ;)

yung sub gamit ko yun din yung energy nasa pic. hihi
baka sa room treatment lang cguro ..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gob on Nov 23, 2011 at 04:30 PM
question lang mga bros.

i have a wharf diamond 9.1 & noticed when playing specially jazz & voice music i hear hiss sound from the speaker.

what could be the cause of the hiss, speaker issue, speaker cable, ic?  thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: CMac on Nov 23, 2011 at 04:56 PM
question lang mga bros.

i have a wharf diamond 9.1 & noticed when playing specially jazz & voice music i hear hiss sound from the speaker.

what could be the cause of the hiss, speaker issue, speaker cable, ic?  thanks

both speakers? if yes, problem may point to the source. vinyls?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: joko11 on Nov 24, 2011 at 03:36 AM
question lang mga bros.

i have a wharf diamond 9.1 & noticed when playing specially jazz & voice music i hear hiss sound from the speaker.

what could be the cause of the hiss, speaker issue, speaker cable, ic?  thanks
place wires away from amp
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gob on Nov 24, 2011 at 08:41 AM
both speakers? if yes, problem may point to the source. vinyls?

i believe both, but sometimes none.  cdp being used.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: c.a. on Nov 24, 2011 at 11:11 AM
i believe both, but sometimes none.  cdp being used.

might be the amp.... or the interconnects...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: CMac on Nov 24, 2011 at 04:03 PM
very hard to determine unless you can temporarily replace each component and deduce the exact culprit.

if rca cables are used from cdp to amp, maybe i'll start with those. good luck
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Nov 25, 2011 at 06:17 AM
i believe both, but sometimes none.  cdp being used.

Try a CD that you're sure is clean (a Zero Bit Track would be very useful for this test). If it only happens when a track is playing back, it's likely the cdp. If it happens even when you switch to other inputs (even those that don't have components on them), then it's likely the preamp or the power amp (unless they utilize noise gates).
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ATJr. on Nov 25, 2011 at 09:57 AM
question lang mga bros.

i have a wharf diamond 9.1 & noticed when playing specially jazz & voice music i hear hiss sound from the speaker.

what could be the cause of the hiss, speaker issue, speaker cable, ic?  thanks

what amp are you using? how loud is the hiss?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: FrancisS on Dec 11, 2011 at 10:35 PM
What product could use /wipe to clean the woofers?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Dec 11, 2011 at 11:27 PM
What product could use /wipe to clean the woofers?

Damp cloth is the safest choice. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: c.a. on Dec 12, 2011 at 07:58 AM
What product could use /wipe to clean the woofers?

i use a fine bristle paint brush and micro fiber cloth..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Dec 12, 2011 at 01:33 PM
What product could use /wipe to clean the woofers?

Fine, fine  bristle brush lang Sir ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: FrancisS on Dec 12, 2011 at 01:37 PM
Thanks, I'm noticing some kind of "mold" around the woofer eh, I dont want to use any chemical, hehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: blackie on Dec 12, 2011 at 01:53 PM
Thanks, I'm noticing some kind of "mold" around the woofer eh, I dont want to use any chemical, hehe.

That parang change in color?  Noticed it too.  Came out after a few years.  Like you, don't use any cleaning chemicals.  I think as long as it is "rubbery" then it should be ok.  My fear is that putting anything may make that rubber material around the woofer brittle.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: FrancisS on Dec 13, 2011 at 07:35 AM
That parang change in color?  Noticed it too.  Came out after a few years.  Like you, don't use any cleaning chemicals.  I think as long as it is "rubbery" then it should be ok.  My fear is that putting anything may make that rubber material around the woofer brittle.

its ok when the grilles are on, but it bothers me when I see it when the grilles are off. :) I'm also apprehensive that some chemicals may make the rubber brittle.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jerrylodi on Feb 09, 2012 at 07:47 AM
mga sirs guday po, magtatanong lang po kung may nka try na po ba ng wharfedale 9.6 + roksan kandy2 amp combo? TIA po :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Feb 09, 2012 at 07:52 AM
mga sirs guday po, magtatanong lang po kung may nka try na po ba ng wharfedale 9.6 + roksan kandy2 amp combo? TIA po :)

Try mo sir. The Kandy K2 should be able to deliver good current basta wag sobrang lakasan.

The 9.6 is a very current-hungry speaker.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jerrylodi on Feb 09, 2012 at 09:33 AM
Try mo sir. The Kandy K2 should be able to deliver good current basta wag sobrang lakasan.

The 9.6 is a very current-hungry speaker.


thanks po again sir stagea :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sidewinder on Feb 15, 2012 at 12:45 PM
tanong ko lang sa mga experts dito, what's a good upgrade for my 9.1? going to use for audio, thanks. Sobrang satisfied ako sa 9.1 ko pero more than 3 years na din sya so medyo inaabot na ako ng upgrade itch hehe ... Hopefully kasing budget friendly lang din ng 9.1, many thanks :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: cray on Feb 15, 2012 at 12:47 PM
galing ako sir 9.1.. nag upgrade ako sa rti A3.. sa movies walang difference pero pag pure music listening malaki po pagkakaiba..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: buzzworth on Feb 15, 2012 at 01:01 PM
tanong ko lang sa mga experts dito, what's a good upgrade for my 9.1? going to use for audio, thanks. Sobrang satisfied ako sa 9.1 ko pero more than 3 years na din sya so medyo inaabot na ako ng upgrade itch hehe ... Hopefully kasing budget friendly lang din ng 9.1, many thanks :)
sir, try mo yung PSB B2.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sidewinder on Feb 15, 2012 at 01:19 PM
@cray, buzzworth - thanks guys for the quick replies and recommendations. ang mahal pala nung RTI A3, hehe... sa mga mission speakers meron ba? how about yung M31, M30, M3C2, M3C1?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: raider125jeigh on Feb 16, 2012 at 07:51 PM
guys padaan po ;D

i have onkyo HTIB
ht-s3305 

i am planning to upgrade the fronts to diamond 9.1
how much and price nito ngayon ...?
ung used?

base dun sa nasearch ko sa net mas ok nung
nagupgrade sa 9.1 or monitor audio br2

pang dagdag base lang sa passive sub ko
wala kasi me makita na monitor audio mas malakas daw sa base un compare sa 9.1

para lang sana sa pagpapatugtug ko medyo bitin lang kapag music ung htib e..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jerrylodi on Mar 22, 2012 at 08:42 AM
Mga Sirs guday po, Bka po may magbibitaw po ng Wharfedale 9.6 cherry color interested po ako. Many thanks po sa inyo. TIA :) pa PM n lang po ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: raider125jeigh on Mar 22, 2012 at 02:12 PM
Mga Sirs guday po, Bka po may magbibitaw po ng Wharfedale 9.6 cherry color interested po ako. Many thanks po sa inyo. TIA :) pa PM n lang po ;)

may 9.6 ata sa marketplace ah...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jerrylodi on Mar 26, 2012 at 03:30 PM
may 9.6 ata sa marketplace ah...
parang black color po ata sya :) thanks sir
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: raider125jeigh on Mar 26, 2012 at 03:53 PM
parang black color po ata sya :) thanks sir

oo nga pala black plaa ung kay jhelenz
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: espionage on Apr 03, 2012 at 03:36 PM
Mga Gurus anong model magandang i-match sa Onkyo 509 bookshelves lang 60%movies and 40% music. Tia! ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 03, 2012 at 04:17 PM
Mga Gurus anong model magandang i-match sa Onkyo 509 bookshelves lang 60%movies and 40% music. Tia! ;)


9.1 or 9.3  then 9cs
or
try mo ung 9.5 and 9cm - FS yan
surround kahit saka na muna
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Apr 03, 2012 at 04:37 PM
The Diamond 9.3 works better with the 9.cm, imho. The 9.cs has a darker character that's closer to the 9.1/9.2 sound.

This coincides with Wharfedale's recommended Center and L/R pairing. The 9.3 and the 9.cm are probably voiced for bigger rooms, where the listener sits further away from the speakers.

The 9.1/9.cs set is supposedly suitable for rooms upto 12 sq.m., while the 9.3/9.cm set is designed to handle rooms beyond 18 sq.m.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shinigamee on Apr 03, 2012 at 09:41 PM
hi guys... i currently have the diamond 9 cinema series and am thinking of upgrading my 9.0 fronts to a 9.4/9.5...  i am not sure if my onkyo 608 would have enough juice to satisfy the power requirements for the 9.4 or even the 9.5

sars bug has bitten and appreciate your advise... thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: joko11 on Apr 03, 2012 at 10:04 PM
Power Output       -
     Front L/R       100 W + 100 W (8 ohms, 20 Hz-20 kHz,
0.08%, 2 channels driven, FTC)
100 W + 100 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.1%,
2 channels driven, FTC)
     Center       100 W (8 ohms, 20 Hz–20 kHz, 0.08%,
2 channels driven, FTC)
100 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.1%, 2 channels
driven, FTC)
     Surround L/R       100 W + 100 W (8 ohms, 20 Hz–20 kHz,
0.08%, 2 channels driven, FTC)
100 W + 100 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.1%,
2 channels driven, FTC)
     Surround Back L/R       100 W + 100 W (8 ohms, 20 Hz–20 kHz,
0.08%, 2 channels driven, FTC)
100 W + 100 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.1%,
2 channels driven, FTC)

kung LCR kaya nya pero kung may surrounds at back surrounds baka kapusin ka na
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jhelenz on Apr 03, 2012 at 11:19 PM
hi guys... i currently have the diamond 9 cinema series and am thinking of upgrading my 9.0 fronts to a 9.4/9.5...  i am not sure if my onkyo 608 would have enough juice to satisfy the power requirements for the 9.4 or even the 9.5

sars bug has bitten and appreciate your advise... thanks
try to pm wacksy1021 and paolorenzo regarding your question ,these are some of the members who has the same set up although wacksy has already upgraded his gears.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: espionage on Apr 04, 2012 at 11:25 AM
@ Sir raider125jeigh and Sir Stagea
Tnx na marami i'll try to audition both. ;D ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chrisbulog on Apr 11, 2012 at 09:22 AM
I have a 9.4 FS, driving it with Pio 520k. Im satidfied with movies but music bitin.

I would like to buy a separate T-amp or integrated amp for music.

Pwede ko ba gamitin yung 9.4 for this at the same time nakakabit din ito sa Pio ko?

I noticed at the back of the speakers are 2 terminals (LF/HF), pwede po ba 2 amps ikabit dun?

Sorry sa noob query.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: snobol68 on Apr 11, 2012 at 08:38 PM
you should get an amp switcher by sir mackrenz ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: joko11 on Apr 11, 2012 at 11:23 PM
or build another set dedicated for audio listening.
FR speaker lang at t-amp hindi masakit sa bulsa ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: redram on Apr 14, 2012 at 10:29 AM
@chrisbulog, i too have the same setup Pioneer 520k and wharfe 9cs, 9.4, surround.
try turning on your sub even listening to music for me it sounds much better.
without it medyo kulang but depends on what music type you are listening to.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ajt on Apr 15, 2012 at 05:11 PM
mga sir kaya ba ng hk 165 ang 9.5 + 9cs + 10dfs + sw150?

ano marecommend niyo sa avr na to?

thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Allan_2180 on Apr 17, 2012 at 11:47 PM
kaya yan, High Instantaneous Current Capable naman ang HK avr's

may setup ako na:
HK240 + 9.6 + 9cm + 9DFS + USAudio 512 Sub
HK245 + 9.6 + 9cm + 9DFS + USAudio 512 Sub
kayang kaya i-drive wharfs, no distortion whatsoever. ;)

mga sir kaya ba ng hk 165 ang 9.5 + 9cs + 10dfs + sw150?

ano marecommend niyo sa avr na to?

thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ajt on Apr 18, 2012 at 07:34 PM
@Allan_2180, ok sir thanks kayang kaya pala..

sir malayo ba tunog ng 9.5 at 9.6? kasi magkalapit ang price nila..
tsaka sir magkano USAudio 512? same lang ba tunog neto sa wharf sw150?

pasensiya na sir first setup ko palang tsaka taga province kasi kaya hindi maka audition..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Apr 19, 2012 at 01:30 AM
sir malayo ba tunog ng 9.5 at 9.6? kasi magkalapit ang price nila..
tsaka sir magkano USAudio 512? same lang ba tunog neto sa wharf sw150?

Imho, malayo ang tunog nila. If they didn't look similar, you might not even think that they're from the same family. Though kung alin ang mas maganda sayo is purely dependent on your preference and how they interact with your components and your room.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Allan_2180 on Apr 19, 2012 at 07:40 AM
imho magkaiba sila, mas emphasized ang low at midrange ng 9.6, at kung maliit ang room mo
kahit walang subwoofer malakas at deep na din ang bass. make sure na nka LARGE ang speakers
at nka SUBWOOFER OFF ang setting ng HK AVR mo.

pra din sa akin ok ang USAudio 512, although after a year nasira ung woofer at pinalitan ko ng
JBL GT5 12" woofer. sa sound sabi ng binilan ko dati na mas matigas ang bass ng SW150
at mas softer naman ang bass ng USAudio, 4yrs ago nasa 6T ko lang ata nabili.
kung may space at extra budget ka go for 9.6, pero dapat nka 9cm ka naman pra match.

ang masasabi ko lang sa HK AVR + Wharf setup e warm at mas malinaw ang mids.

saan ba province mo? :)

@Allan_2180, ok sir thanks kayang kaya pala..

sir malayo ba tunog ng 9.5 at 9.6? kasi magkalapit ang price nila..
tsaka sir magkano USAudio 512? same lang ba tunog neto sa wharf sw150?

pasensiya na sir first setup ko palang tsaka taga province kasi kaya hindi maka audition..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: merdenoms on Apr 19, 2012 at 08:03 AM
i've been eyeing this amplifier http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/av-receivers-amps/rx/rx-v373_black_u/  for my setup

kaya nya kayang i drive ang wharfedale 9.6? thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jhelenz on Apr 19, 2012 at 08:26 AM
i've been eyeing this amplifier http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/av-receivers-amps/rx/rx-v373_black_u/  for my setup

kaya nya kayang i drive ang wharfedale 9.6? thanks!
imo you better get a mid to hi end level receiver to bring out the best out of that 9.6.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ajt on Apr 19, 2012 at 11:34 AM
Thanks sa opinions sir stagea and allan_2180

@allan_2180 sir mga 5x5m lang yung room..

so ok lang pala mag 9.6 + 9cm + dfs ?

sir isabela pa ako sa north mga 8hrs road trip pa to manila..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Apr 19, 2012 at 08:58 PM
imo you better get a mid to hi end level receiver to bring out the best out of that 9.6.

I truly agree. The 9.6 demands quite a bit of current and sounds better with good damping.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Allan_2180 on Apr 20, 2012 at 07:55 AM
this might help you decide
a clip from from Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series Brochure:

(http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae331/Allan_2180/wharf.jpg)

Go for Large Room/Large System 5.1Ch setup
for greater soundstage.

kung stereo listening kahit walang sub ok lang
but for watching HD movies,
kailangan mo pa din ng subwoofer for handling LFE signals
at bawas stress sa fronts mo.

instead na mag-add ka ng SW250 or SW150 na worth P18T/P10T,
buy US Audio 512 12" sub na lang for P6T-P7T,
mas mura at praktikal ksi.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: merdenoms on Apr 20, 2012 at 09:12 AM
thanks sir....

i've been eyeing on 9.3, 9cm and 10dfs for my yamaha rx-373.... based on my amplifier's specs, kaya nya kaya i drive yang mga speakers stated above.. thank you! 4x6 nga pala yung room ko =)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ajt on Apr 20, 2012 at 10:30 AM
Thanks sir allan..

mag 9.6, 9cm, 10dfs, us audio or pilyo subs..

tignan kung kaya ng budget.. atleast alam ko na kaya ng avr.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Apr 20, 2012 at 10:59 AM
thanks sir....

i've been eyeing on 9.3, 9cm and 10dfs for my yamaha rx-373.... based on my amplifier's specs, kaya nya kaya i drive yang mga speakers stated above.. thank you! 4x6 nga pala yung room ko =)

Kaya na din yan, just don't push it too hard.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: este on May 07, 2012 at 06:24 PM
Sirs, i am looking for a bookshelf speaker..
Ok ba tong diamond 9.1 i pair sa modified lepai t-amp?
or mas ok to sa sansui au-707?
mas ok ba ang 1st genesis ni sir anthony or itong wharfdale 9.1?  ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 07, 2012 at 06:56 PM
Sirs, i am looking for a bookshelf speaker..
Ok ba tong diamond 9.1 i pair sa modified lepai t-amp?
or mas ok to sa sansui au-707?
mas ok ba ang 1st genesis ni sir anthony or itong wharfdale 9.1?  ???

audition mo ung 9.1 ko sir ...
connected with pio 1021
much better kung connected sa mga int amp
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: este on May 11, 2012 at 07:34 AM
meron pa ba mabibili na brnad new na 9.1?  ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 11, 2012 at 08:14 AM
meron pa ba mabibili na brnad new na 9.1?  ???
meron pa yan
try mo watthifi sa makati
sns
avshop

meron 9.2 na makinis sa marketplace si joko11 seller
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Valiente on May 11, 2012 at 03:45 PM
Guys, what is the lowest price for a brand new 9.1 and 10.1? ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 11, 2012 at 07:06 PM
Guys, what is the lowest price for a brand new 9.1 and 10.1? ;D
for sure 9.1 hehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: joko11 on May 11, 2012 at 08:30 PM
Guys, what is the lowest price for a brand new 9.1 and 10.1? ;D
iirc 9.1 is 5k at sns
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Valiente on May 12, 2012 at 08:33 AM
Direction: Fill the blanks.  ;D

The best cheap amp that can paired with the Diamond 9.1 in order that it will reach in its maximum sound quality is ______________________ because ______________________ .
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: este on May 12, 2012 at 08:51 AM
thanks sir raider for directing to sir joko's 9.2..
i think 9.2 is a bit big for my desk..  ;D
malik poo ba ang difference in terms of size nung 9.1 and 9.2?
maybe ill settle for a new 9.1..it will be driven with a sansui au-d707
i will pair it with psw150..
or any recommendation mga masters?
i will be using it mainly for music..
sometimes movie and occasionally for pc games?
Thanks.. :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: c.a. on May 19, 2012 at 07:43 AM
i used to have a 9.1 and 9.2, had the chance to do a&b comparison of the two.. highs and mids sounds almost the same but the bass coming out of the 9.2 sounds fuller and more natural.  for music use, the 9.2 is my pick even without a sub, low end response would be sufficient. the 9.2 sound more musical..

for me, a 9.2 in 2.0 set up sounds better the a 9.1+12"sub in 2.1 set up for playing music (audiophile tracks)..
but for movies or home theater, having a sub is always netter..

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hope this helps..


btw, i used a sansui au-@607extra in the a&b comparison of the 9.1 and 9.2
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chronic on May 24, 2012 at 09:55 AM
question mga boss?san po ba may nagbebenta ng wharfedale ?may distributor ba sila?ty
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Allan_2180 on May 24, 2012 at 10:27 AM
Try mo sa Sights and Sounds Shang or sa Listening In Style Megamall  :D

question mga boss?san po ba may nagbebenta ng wharfedale ?may distributor ba sila?ty
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on May 24, 2012 at 10:59 AM
question mga boss?san po ba may nagbebenta ng wharfedale ?may distributor ba sila?ty

Maraming nagbebenta, maski sa appliance centers meron yan (by order madalas). Zamony ang distributor nila.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: c.a. on May 24, 2012 at 02:23 PM
question mga boss?san po ba may nagbebenta ng wharfedale ?may distributor ba sila?ty

meron din ata sa makati cinema square basement.. the listening room SM megamall....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chronic on May 25, 2012 at 03:10 PM
tnx for answering.kala ko kasi they have a store tapos all their line of speakers andun but tnx though
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Zexadron on May 27, 2012 at 05:26 PM

magkano kaya yung diamond 10.2 na bookshelf? like this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGpKiJfC5o4&feature=related
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Mrk on Jul 03, 2012 at 09:09 PM
hi guys im planning a "little" upgrade for my 9.1 that is being driven by my dayton DTA-1 rated at 15watts per channel

im eyeing the 9.3 because of its bigger driver that would go lower but because of my amps limited capacity

should i just go with the 9.2?

has anyone tried driving the 9.3 with dayton DTA-1?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: joko11 on Jul 03, 2012 at 10:27 PM
hi guys im planning a "little" upgrade for my 9.1 that is being driven by my dayton DTA-1 rated at 15watts per channel

im eyeing the 9.3 because of its bigger driver that would go lower but because of my amps limited capacity

should i just go with the 9.2?

has anyone tried driving the 9.3 with dayton DTA-1?
9.3 is too much for your dta.
bring your amp and audition it with 9.2
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Jul 04, 2012 at 12:13 AM
hi guys im planning a "little" upgrade for my 9.1 that is being driven by my dayton DTA-1 rated at 15watts per channel

im eyeing the 9.3 because of its bigger driver that would go lower but because of my amps limited capacity

should i just go with the 9.2?

has anyone tried driving the 9.3 with dayton DTA-1?

Audition both options to see which one suits your need.

I'd personally almost always choose the 9.3 over the 9.2. Also check out the Polk M20 and the Infinity P163.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: c.a. on Jul 04, 2012 at 08:12 PM
the 9.2 doesn't really go well with low powered amplifiers.  i'd say the 9.2's are a lot more power hungry than the 9.1's.  tried it with my 30wpc harman kardon hk3350. it was ok with the 9.1, but base sounded muddy with the 9.2. just my 2 cents..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: FrancisS on Jul 22, 2012 at 06:10 AM
Is there any difference with the sound with the speaker cover installed or removed?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: rthirtyfourgtr on Jul 22, 2012 at 06:15 AM
^ some people hear a difference while some don't, only way to find out which group you belong is to try ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: FrancisS on Jul 22, 2012 at 06:20 AM
hehe, I did try it, I was wondering if other guys tried it too and found a difference, i'm thinking that it may just be a psychological difference.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: joko11 on Jul 22, 2012 at 06:28 AM
hehe, I did try it, I was wondering if other guys tried it too and found a difference, i'm thinking that it may just be a psychological difference.
group 3 ???
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: FrancisS on Jul 22, 2012 at 06:42 AM
group 3 ???
 ;D ;D ;D

hahaha. sana hanggang group 3 lang.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: joko11 on Jul 22, 2012 at 07:17 AM
kidding aside..try to cover port instead the cloth
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: FrancisS on Jul 22, 2012 at 07:20 AM
kidding aside..try to cover port instead the cloth

ah really? what result did that give you?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: rthirtyfourgtr on Jul 22, 2012 at 12:17 PM
hehe, I did try it, I was wondering if other guys tried it too and found a difference, i'm thinking that it may just be a psychological difference.

technically there is a difference, as there is no perfect acoustically transparent cloth. whether or not that difference is significant and noticeable depends on the psycho-acoustic perception of the listener.

re: covering the port, doing so will modify the frequency response, making the woofer behave closer to being in a sealed enclosure as opposed to a ported enclosure. generally it would result to "tighter bass" at the expense of low end extension
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: rhodem24 on Jul 27, 2012 at 11:20 PM
Hello po.. Quick question lang. I have Wharfedale 9.1 (Fronts) and 9.CS. (No subwoofer)

Okay lang po ba pa tugtugin etong bass tester (from YouTube)?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b-FEaGJG8Y


Hindi po ba nakakasira ng speakers? Volume ko is about -30 pa lang. I'm using a Pioneer VSX-1021-K.


TIA! :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: haboky on Jul 29, 2012 at 10:17 AM
Hello po.. Quick question lang. I have Wharfedale 9.1 (Fronts) and 9.CS. (No subwoofer)

Okay lang po ba pa tugtugin etong bass tester (from YouTube)?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b-FEaGJG8Y


Hindi po ba nakakasira ng speakers? Volume ko is about -30 pa lang. I'm using a Pioneer VSX-1021-K.


TIA! :)

bai rhodem24, as long as you don't hear any distortion it will be ok.. just curious why would you subject your wharfs to a bass test?  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: rhodem24 on Jul 29, 2012 at 10:29 AM
bai rhodem24, as long as you don't hear any distortion it will be ok.. just curious why would you subject your wharfs to a bass test?  :)

Thanks bro. I just saw the vid in youtube and na curious lang. Haha.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: joko11 on Jul 29, 2012 at 04:22 PM
Thanks bro. I just saw the vid in youtube and na curious lang. Haha.
maybe curious ka na mag boom boom pow si 9.1 just like what you saw in youtube ;D
pero bomalabs na gumalaw yung driver nyan the way na gumagalaw yung speaker sa youtube ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: rhodem24 on Jul 29, 2012 at 06:47 PM
maybe curious ka na mag boom boom pow si 9.1 just like what you saw in youtube ;D
pero bomalabs na gumalaw yung driver nyan the way na gumagalaw yung speaker sa youtube ;)

Ano po yung bomalabs? Hehehe. Nag move nga yung drivers pero slight lang.. Medyo matigas ba yung cones nya?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: FrancisS on Jul 30, 2012 at 09:37 PM
The drivers of the 9.1 will not have the excursion similar to subwoofers.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jetstar on Aug 14, 2012 at 11:00 PM
Di ba overkill if I power may 9.1, 9.CS, and 9.SR with Onkyo 609? I'm upgrading from Yamaha 361.  Will it sound way better? I'm contented with my receiver but can't resist the 609.  It's on it's way from the US but was wondering if I will really enjoy the difference. I'm using a Polk Audio PSW110.

Just wondering lang kasi I'm still out of the country and will get to play with it next month pa.  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Aug 15, 2012 at 05:06 AM
Di ba overkill if I power may 9.1, 9.CS, and 9.SR with Onkyo 609? I'm upgrading from Yamaha 361.  Will it sound way better? I'm contented with my receiver but can't resist the 609.  It's on it's way from the US but was wondering if I will really enjoy the difference. I'm using a Polk Audio PSW110.

Just wondering lang kasi I'm still out of the country and will get to play with it next month pa.  ;)

The extra current capacity should help the Diamond 9s significantly at higher playback levels.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jetstar on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:00 PM
Thanks. I'm excited na.  Do you think that I need to bi-amp my 9.1?  I will be using a 5.1 setup since my couch is against the wall. So I can use the surround back channels for bi-amping. Please advise.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: joko11 on Aug 16, 2012 at 01:43 AM
Thanks. I'm excited na.  Do you think that I need to bi-amp my 9.1?  I will be using a 5.1 setup since my couch is against the wall. So I can use the surround back channels for bi-amping. Please advise.
if your avr support bi-amping please do so
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jetstar on Aug 16, 2012 at 02:47 PM
if your avr support bi-amping please do so

Yes 609 supports bi-amping. Should the wires be the same gauge for the tweeter and main driver? Or can I use a smaller wire to connect the tweeter?

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: warmaster on Aug 16, 2012 at 03:18 PM
Yes 609 supports bi-amping. Should the wires be the same gauge for the tweeter and main driver? Or can I use a smaller wire to connect the tweeter?

Thanks again.

people will suggest same gauge and same length
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jetstar on Aug 17, 2012 at 10:58 PM
people will suggest same gauge and same length

Ok.  Will bi-amp  my 9.1 then.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: haboky on Aug 18, 2012 at 08:43 PM
Ok.  Will by-amp  my 9.1 then.

bi-amping will make your 9.1 sound fuller..  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: SoundProof on Aug 20, 2012 at 12:02 PM
grabe ganda pala ng 9.1 and pioneer 521 setup.
mas gusto ko yung tunog nya compare sa pio 521 + rti a3
siguro kasi entry level lang yung amp.
pero ganda talaga.

ano po difference ng 10.1 sa 9.1? ano po mas maganda?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Aug 20, 2012 at 12:46 PM
ano po difference ng 10.1 sa 9.1? ano po mas maganda?

Magkaiba sila ng tunog. Mas maganda is in the ear of the beholder.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 20, 2012 at 12:46 PM
grabe ganda pala ng 9.1 and pioneer 521 setup.
mas gusto ko yung tunog nya compare sa pio 521 + rti a3
siguro kasi entry level lang yung amp.
pero ganda talaga.

ano po difference ng 10.1 sa 9.1? ano po mas maganda?
malayo ang difference ng dalawa kapag music
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: SoundProof on Aug 20, 2012 at 01:08 PM
para po sa inyo ano po kas prefer nyo. 9.1 or 10.1
ganda kasi ng 9.1. hindi ko pa narinig yung 9.1 pero sa ngayon 10 1 nalang daw available
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 20, 2012 at 01:16 PM
para po sa inyo ano po kas prefer nyo. 9.1 or 10.1
ganda kasi ng 9.1. hindi ko pa narinig yung 9.1 pero sa ngayon 10 1 nalang daw available
ngongo kasi ung 9.1 sa music hihihi
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: muypogi on Aug 20, 2012 at 04:57 PM
grabe ganda pala ng 9.1 and pioneer 521 setup.
mas gusto ko yung tunog nya compare sa pio 521 + rti a3
siguro kasi entry level lang yung amp.
pero ganda talaga.

ano po difference ng 10.1 sa 9.1? ano po mas maganda?

Baka type mo yung "fuller" sound ng 9.1 vs the RTi. Pero mas malinaw highs nung Polks. Had the 9.1 as my very first speaker paired with a NAD 320bee.  Maganda siya for starters, pero once you go higher up the food chain, medyo ngongo yung 9.1 compared to other speakers.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JoeyGS on Aug 20, 2012 at 05:19 PM
Anyone tried 200watts per channel amp and above  over a 9.1?   ;)
Cheers  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jackdee on Aug 20, 2012 at 05:31 PM
Magkaiba sila ng tunog. Mas maganda is in the ear of the beholder.

same driver lang po sila sir?
ang difference is the finished and the port.

why iba yung tunog nila?
just curious lang.. ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jhelenz on Aug 20, 2012 at 05:39 PM
para po sa inyo ano po kas prefer nyo. 9.1 or 10.1
ganda kasi ng 9.1. hindi ko pa narinig yung 9.1 pero sa ngayon 10 1 nalang daw available
akala ko nagandahan ka sa tunog ng 9.1 tapos di mo pa pala narinig?ano ba talaga?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Aug 20, 2012 at 07:20 PM
Thanks. I'm excited na.  Do you think that I need to bi-amp my 9.1?  I will be using a 5.1 setup since my couch is against the wall. So I can use the surround back channels for bi-amping. Please advise.

I don't believe there's any benefit to bi-amping using the same receiver.

Why do receivers provide the option?  Because the receiver company's marketing department believes it will improve sales.  And they are probably right.

To get a real improvement, true bi-amping requires:

(a) Separate amps, each with its own power supply; and
(b) An electronic crossover that splits the signal before reaching the amplifier.

"Bi-amping" from the same receiver via the unused surround back channels fails on both counts because:

(a) The unused back surround channels are separate amp sections, but all 7 sections use the same power supply.  Whether you divide the power into 7 amp sections or 5 amp sections, the total power from the same power supply  remains the same.

(b) The receiver does not have a crossover that splits the signal into high and low frequency for the same channel.  Sure, the receiver has an internal electronic crossover, but that crossover only splits the signal into main & subwoofer channels --- it does not split the signal into high & low for the same channel.  

Using the same receiver, whether you bi-amp or not: (a) Your main channels receive the same total power; and (b) Your high-frequency and low-frequency speakers on the same speaker box receive the same full-frequency signal.  The passive crossover filters on the speaker groups inside the speaker box will just dump the power of the unwanted frequencies into resistors which will dissipate as heat.

Therefore, bi-amping from the same receiver is useless, IMO.  

Why do some users report an improvement?  Because they're giving a subjective report that was not based on a double-blind ABX test.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 20, 2012 at 08:32 PM
same driver lang po sila sir?
ang difference is the finished and the port.

why iba yung tunog nila?
just curious lang.. ???

somehow better daw ang mids ng 10.1 though i havent heard it
maganda review ng 10.1 ng stereophile kaya want ko itry before pero sir stagea hindi nagandahan haha

iba ang driver ng 10 series sa 9...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: joko11 on Aug 20, 2012 at 08:43 PM
I don't believe there's any benefit to bi-amping using the same receiver.

Why do receivers provide the option?  Because the receiver company's marketing department believes it will improve sales.  And they are probably right.

To get a real improvement, true bi-amping requires:

(a) Separate amps, each with its own power supply; and
(b) An electronic crossover that splits the signal before reaching the amplifier.

"Bi-amping" from the same receiver via the unused surround back channels fails on both counts because:

(a) The unused back surround channels are separate amp sections, but all 7 sections use the same power supply.  Whether you divide the power into 7 amp sections or 5 amp sections, the total power from the same power supply  remains the same.

(b) The receiver does not have a crossover that splits the signal into high and low frequency for the same channel.  Sure, the receiver has an internal electronic crossover, but that crossover only splits the signal into main & subwoofer channels --- it does not split the signal into high & low for the same channel.  

Using the same receiver, whether you bi-amp or not: (a) Your main channels receive the same total power; and (b) Your high-frequency and low-frequency speakers on the same speaker box receive the same full-frequency signal.  The passive crossover filters on the speaker groups inside the speaker box will just dump the power of the unwanted frequencies into resistors which will dissipate as heat.

Therefore, bi-amping from the same receiver is useless, IMO.  

Why do some users report an improvement?  Because they're giving a subjective report that was not based on a double-blind ABX test.

if i do bi-amp plus bi-wire let say front channel to LF speaker input and surround channel to HF input of the speaker what sound benefit will i get?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: barrister on Aug 20, 2012 at 08:52 PM
if i do bi-amp plus bi-wire let say front channel to LF speaker input and surround channel to HF input of the speaker what sound benefit will i get?

Nothing.

Bi-wiring is even more useless than bi-amping.  Combining useless bi-amping with useless bi-wiring will give you the same useless result.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: joko11 on Aug 20, 2012 at 09:02 PM
Nothing.

Bi-wiring is even more useless than bi-amping.  Combining useless bi-amping with useless bi-wiring will give you the same useless result.
:D :D :D :D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: SoundProof on Aug 20, 2012 at 10:31 PM
akala ko nagandahan ka sa tunog ng 9.1 tapos di mo pa pala narinig?ano ba talaga?
ay sorry wrong mistake. 10.1 po yung hindi ko pa naririnig.
ang available na lang sa mga stores kasi 10.1 or 10 series na, so far yung 9.1 palang naririnig.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jetstar on Aug 21, 2012 at 03:11 AM
Thanks for all the inputs.

I guess I just need to try it then.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: audiojunkie on Aug 21, 2012 at 03:27 AM
ay sorry wrong mistake. 10.1 po yung hindi ko pa naririnig.
ang available na lang sa mga stores kasi 10.1 or 10 series na, so far yung 9.1 palang naririnig.

kalangan marinig mo muna bago ka magbigay ng konklusyon kung alin ang pasadong tunog sa panlasa mo...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: SoundProof on Aug 21, 2012 at 07:43 AM
Baka type mo yung "fuller" sound ng 9.1 vs the RTi. Pero mas malinaw highs nung Polks. Had the 9.1 as my very first speaker paired with a NAD 320bee.  Maganda siya for starters, pero once you go higher up the food chain, medyo ngongo yung 9.1 compared to other speakers.

yap mas fuller nga yung sound nya. mas nagusutuhan ko. siguro nga after kong makabili ng speaker sa thursday iwas muna ako sa forum. iwas SARS :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 21, 2012 at 08:15 AM
yap mas fuller nga yung sound nya. mas nagusutuhan ko. siguro nga after kong makabili ng speaker sa thursday iwas muna ako sa forum. iwas SARS :D

give us info paano mo pinakingan ung 9.1 and RTI A?

movie? music?
what genre?

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: SoundProof on Aug 21, 2012 at 11:10 AM
first demo rti a3+pio 521. stereo lang.
2nd demo 9.1 + pio 521. stereo at nung medyo nagustuhan ko pinatry ko 2.1 at 5.1
sensya na newbie lang.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: CMac on Aug 21, 2012 at 12:23 PM
People say sound is subjective but when this guy favors the cheaper brand others criticize his choice.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 21, 2012 at 01:34 PM
first demo rti a3+pio 521. stereo lang.
2nd demo 9.1 + pio 521. stereo at nung medyo nagustuhan ko pinatry ko 2.1 at 5.1
sensya na newbie lang.

stereo what? music or movie?

i assume movie right?
kase nag 5.1 ka afterwards

maganda talaga ang syn ng pio at pioneer as i have pioneer 9.1/10cs partner ng pio 1021

@pony wong

wala namang nagcritize baka nafeel mo lang yun....

unless you answer or give us your feedback about diamond 9series?

nasaktan po ba kayo? hehehe



anu pong diamond series ang meron kayo?
 ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Courage on Aug 21, 2012 at 10:45 PM
stereo what? music or movie?

i assume movie right?
kase nag 5.1 ka afterwards

maganda talaga ang syn ng pio at pioneer as i have pioneer 9.1/10cs partner ng pio 1021

@pony wong

wala namang nagcritize baka nafeel mo lang yun....

unless you answer or give us your feedback about diamond 9series?

nasaktan po ba kayo? hehehe



anu pong diamond series ang meron kayo?
 ;D ;D ;D



Nasasaktan ako sa pinag sasasabi mo Derick... Naka Diamond 8.1,8.3 at Diamond 8 center ako noon... Pinakyaw ni Louie... yung isang Louie hindi si sis.. he he he
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: muypogi on Aug 22, 2012 at 05:11 AM
People say sound is subjective but when this guy favors the cheaper brand others criticize his choice.

Sorry, but my comments are not out to criticize but these are my opinions only, having owned the Diamond 9.1 myself and after extensively auditioning the Polks. 

As I said, the thread starter (TS) preferred the diamonds after an audition, but he can actually do better if he moves up in price range a bit, to the 10.1 or to RTi series of Polk. Mas makakatipid in the long-run.

But, if he prefers the 9.1, de ok . . .
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 22, 2012 at 07:57 AM
Nasasaktan ako sa pinag sasasabi mo Derick... Naka Diamond 8.1,8.3 at Diamond 8 center ako noon... Pinakyaw ni Louie... yung isang Louie hindi si sis.. he he he
alam ko un SIS - bumili tuloy ng A9 hinawaan mo ng sakit e

tagal ko din naman sa diamond series

parehas lang kami ni papa muypogi

- i was just wanting to know what was the process during the audition kung puro movie lang or may audio..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: SoundProof on Aug 23, 2012 at 11:50 AM
maya try kong i-audition yung 10.1 sana mas less ngongo sya(sabi nga ni boss raider)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jpsg on Sep 04, 2012 at 11:16 AM
Gurus,

Anyone tried using this amp Pioneer VSX-521 (14k php) for this set of speakers?

Front   9.1
Rear   9.SR
Center   9.CS
SW   SW150

Please feel free to suggest any AMPLI within price range lang po sana.

TY in advance!



Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Wildfire™ on Sep 04, 2012 at 11:19 AM
i  read here na ngongo ang sound ng 9.2 dahil ba sa woofer or sa tweeter?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: joko11 on Sep 04, 2012 at 12:10 PM
i  read here na ngongo ang sound ng 9.2 dahil ba sa woofer or sa tweeter?
hindi naman sya ngongo.for music session less detailed siguro tamang term.upgrade mo lang cxover at tweeter
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Wildfire™ on Sep 04, 2012 at 02:03 PM
hindi naman sya ngongo.for music session less detailed siguro tamang term.upgrade mo lang cxover at tweeter

mukhang maganda nga i modify ung 9.2 lagyan ng vifa xt25, magkano ba retail ngayon?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: joko11 on Sep 04, 2012 at 09:51 PM
mukhang maganda nga i modify ung 9.2 lagyan ng vifa xt25, magkano ba retail ngayon?
mura lang yan kay master A.  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Wildfire™ on Sep 04, 2012 at 10:01 PM
mura lang yan kay master A.  ;)

un nga plan ko  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: joko11 on Sep 04, 2012 at 10:07 PM
un nga plan ko  ;D
aba e go na :D
paki balitaan mo na lang kami dito kung ano naging outcome.
goodluck ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Wildfire™ on Sep 04, 2012 at 10:09 PM
aba e go na :D
paki balitaan mo na lang kami dito kung ano naging outcome.
goodluck ;)

sana mura lang ang 9.2 para masubukan  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ndy on Sep 05, 2012 at 06:11 AM
sounds ot kasi diamond 10 to ha!  pero swerte tayo dito sa pinas ;)  kaprice nya ibang popular choices dito sa atin :o

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j67/mimigz/001-1.jpg)
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j67/mimigz/003-1.jpg)
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j67/mimigz/005-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: warmaster on Sep 05, 2012 at 07:16 AM
hindi naman sya ngongo.for music session less detailed siguro tamang term.upgrade mo lang cxover at tweeter

worth it ba yang tweak na yan for 9.3?  8)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: raider125jeigh on Sep 05, 2012 at 07:39 AM
worth it ba yang tweak na yan for 9.3?  8)

mas maganda daw midrage ng 10 series

ako nga pagnainis bibili haha
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Sep 05, 2012 at 07:44 AM
worth it ba yang tweak na yan for 9.3?  8)

Either way, you'd likely have to modify or replace the crossover to compensate for the driver change.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: koykoy on Sep 05, 2012 at 07:49 AM
hmmm... ang haba na ng thread na to ah. :-)

i still own the 8 series (8.2, 8C, 8DFS).  My subjective opinion is that its more tamed in the highs.

Now itching for the 10 floorstanders.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: warmaster on Sep 05, 2012 at 07:59 AM
mas maganda daw midrage ng 10 series

ako nga pagnainis bibili haha

sige na mainis ka na bro.  ;D

Either way, you'd likely have to modify or replace the crossover to compensate for the driver change.

yup. tweeter and crossover upgrade. i don't think i'll be selling the 9.3 so might as well play around with it and see how much performance juice i can squeeze out of it.

but could those tweaks affect soundstage and imaging?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: raider125jeigh on Sep 05, 2012 at 08:18 AM
sounds ot kasi diamond 10 to ha!  pero swerte tayo dito sa pinas ;)  kaprice nya ibang popular choices dito sa atin :o

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j67/mimigz/001-1.jpg)
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j67/mimigz/003-1.jpg)
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j67/mimigz/005-2.jpg)
san mo binili to?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Sep 05, 2012 at 12:51 PM
sige na mainis ka na bro.  ;D

yup. tweeter and crossover upgrade. i don't think i'll be selling the 9.3 so might as well play around with it and see how much performance juice i can squeeze out of it.

but could those tweaks affect soundstage and imaging?

Yes, and the change could be positive or negative. To get a better chance of a positive outcome, you have to build a crossover that will properly meld your two drivers together.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Armz316 on Sep 05, 2012 at 02:02 PM


great speakers! up for you Sir! :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: joko11 on Sep 05, 2012 at 05:58 PM
worth it ba yang tweak na yan for 9.3?  8)
ibenta mo sakin 9.3 ako na magpapamod kay anthony ;D
balitaan kita sa outcome ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Wildfire™ on Sep 05, 2012 at 06:55 PM
ibenta mo sakin 9.3 ako na magpapamod kay anthony ;D
balitaan kita sa outcome ;)


binigyan mo ko ng idea  :D

wala bang gusto magdispose ng 9.2 dyan  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: warmaster on Sep 05, 2012 at 07:18 PM
Yes, and the change could be positive or negative. To get a better chance of a positive outcome, you have to build a crossover that will properly meld your two drivers together.

hopefully kaya yan nila anthony

ibenta mo sakin 9.3 ako na magpapamod kay anthony ;D
balitaan kita sa outcome ;)

ito pala ang maitim na balak mo. wala e mukang mauudlot speaker upgrade ko na malamang mapunta sa laptop or bagong phone ni misis. kaya iexplore ko muna ang pwede gawin dito sa kung ano ang meron. hehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: FrancisS on Sep 15, 2012 at 08:11 PM
My 9.3, 9CM and 9.1 were all modded by anthony around 2 years ago, they sound a lot better, it got rid of that "ngongo" sound of the 9 series.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: zart on Sep 18, 2012 at 10:34 AM
magkano ba inaabot ang pag mod ng 9.1 kay anthony mga sir?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: joko11 on Sep 18, 2012 at 10:11 PM
magkano ba inaabot ang pag mod ng 9.1 kay anthony mga sir?
You can ask diymaster directly.pm mo na lang tapos balitaan mo kami ano result ng tweak ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: misteryoso on Sep 20, 2012 at 07:10 AM
Mga Bossing Which one much better Wharf 9.3 or wharf 10.2?using in front for 60%music & 40%movies! pls. give the difference of each..tia
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: misteryoso on Sep 23, 2012 at 01:26 AM
Knock knock... :-X
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: raider125jeigh on Sep 23, 2012 at 09:55 AM
Mga Bossing Which one much better Wharf 9.3 or wharf 10.2?using in front for 60%music & 40%movies! pls. give the difference of each..tia

hmmmmMMmmmm sama movie go for 9.3
or audition both
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: misteryoso on Sep 23, 2012 at 08:55 PM
ok thanks for the info sir raider125jeigh..kala ko walang tao dito... :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: c.a. on Sep 24, 2012 at 07:30 PM
Mga Bossing Which one much better Wharf 9.3 or wharf 10.2?using in front for 60%music & 40%movies! pls. give the difference of each..tia

for me, i'll pick the 9.3.. bigger drivers.. more natural low end response....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: misteryoso on Sep 24, 2012 at 10:57 PM
thanks c.a. i'll appreciate..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Sep 25, 2012 at 07:51 AM
for me, i'll pick the 9.3.. bigger drivers.. more natural low end response....

You also get better power handling and efficiency with the 9.3.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: c.a. on Sep 25, 2012 at 11:30 AM
You also get better power handling and efficiency with the 9.3.

+1



i wonder why they didnt include models with 8inch drivers in the diamond 10 series...  :-\
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: rhodem24 on Sep 26, 2012 at 10:14 PM
Hello mga master, I just placed my Diamond 9.1s on the floor. Does it really affect the sound quality? (I still don't have speaker stands)

Thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Sep 26, 2012 at 10:33 PM
I just placed my Diamond 9.1s on the floor. Does it really affect the sound quality? (I still don't have speaker stands)


Very much so.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: warmaster on Sep 26, 2012 at 10:45 PM
Hello mga master, I just placed my Diamond 9.1s on the floor. Does it really affect the sound quality? (I still don't have speaker stands)

Thanks.

i've had my 9.3 for almost a year now but i don't have stands yet either  ^-^ pansamantagal monoblock stools ang gamit ko until i decide (and have enough spare cash) for proper stands. i know it's not the best choice of stands but it is better than just leaver BS speakers on the floor. iniisip ko rin kasi pag nagupgrade ako ng speakers dapat sukat pa rin dun sa stands na bibilhin ko.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: rhodem24 on Sep 27, 2012 at 08:29 AM
Thanks mga sir. Ang mahal po kasi ng stands. 3-4K. :(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Sep 27, 2012 at 12:49 PM
Thanks to this thread I headed to Anthony Audio to have the Wharfedale 9.1+9CS tuned.
After buying these speakers I kept feeling that they did not provide the clarity and body I wanted.
It was as if these was something missing in the middle notes.
Also, the listening area was small.
Shared what I wanted with Anthony and he said to come back after 3-days.

Got them back yesterday after tweeters were replaced and cross over tuned.
Once I got home I tested them side by side the Polk A3s in the music area.
They now sound identical but the 9.1 on stereo has more clarity on vocals which is what I desire and requested from Anthony.

On Stereo I also keep looking at the 9Cs to see if the sound if coming from the center because of the improved sound field. I even disconnected the Center just to be sure. LoL!
On 5.1 the 9Cs provides more depth.
I now have the audio quality in the Study Den at a very affordable cost.
Super Sulit!

Thank you very much to this helpful thread! More Power!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: rhodem24 on Sep 27, 2012 at 04:17 PM
Good to hear that bro. Ang layo ko kasi sa Manila. Gusto ko rin sana ipa doctor kay Sir Anthony yung 9.1 and 9CS ko, kaso nasa Cebu ako.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Wildfire™ on Sep 27, 2012 at 04:42 PM
Thanks to this thread I headed to Anthony Audio to have the Wharfedale 9.1+9CS tuned.
After buying these speakers I kept feeling that they did not provide the clarity and body I wanted.
It was as if these was something missing in the middle notes.
Also, the listening area was small.
Shared what I wanted with Anthony and he said to come back after 3-days.

Got them back yesterday after tweeters were replaced and cross over tuned.
Once I got home I tested them side by side the Polk A3s in the music area.
They now sound identical but the 9.1 on stereo has more clarity on vocals which is what I desire and requested from Anthony.

On Stereo I also keep looking at the 9Cs to see if the sound if coming from the center because of the improved sound field. I even disconnected the Center just to be sure. LoL!
On 5.1 the 9Cs provides more depth.
I now have the audio quality in the Study Den at a very affordable cost.
Super Sulit!

Thank you very much to this helpful thread! More Power!

congrats what tweeter was used?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: joko11 on Sep 27, 2012 at 09:59 PM
congrats what tweeter was used?
let me guess.... vifa ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Sep 27, 2012 at 10:58 PM
I forgot to record what tweeter was used.
It was not Vifa because it would come out too expensive and needed more mods because of the size.

Anthony gave me the warf tweeters to keep as souvenir.
Definitely these tweeters are not going back to the boxes  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Allan_2180 on Sep 27, 2012 at 11:09 PM
Does the new tweeters seamlessly fit on wharf's front?
Maybe you could share picture of your wharf?
Tnx!

I forgot to record what tweeter was used.
It was not Vifa because it would come out too expensive and needed more mods because of the size.

Anthony gave me the warf tweeters to keep as souvenir.
Definitely these tweeters are not going back to the boxes  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Wildfire™ on Sep 27, 2012 at 11:09 PM
I forgot to record what tweeter was used.
It was not Vifa because it would come out too expensive and needed more mods because of the size.

Anthony gave me the warf tweeters to keep as souvenir.
Definitely these tweeters are not going back to the boxes  ;D

yes picture
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: yvesjae on Oct 12, 2012 at 03:42 PM
Thanks to this thread I headed to Anthony Audio to have the Wharfedale 9.1+9CS tuned.
After buying these speakers I kept feeling that they did not provide the clarity and body I wanted.
It was as if these was something missing in the middle notes.
Also, the listening area was small.
Shared what I wanted with Anthony and he said to come back after 3-days.

Got them back yesterday after tweeters were replaced and cross over tuned.
Once I got home I tested them side by side the Polk A3s in the music area.
They now sound identical but the 9.1 on stereo has more clarity on vocals which is what I desire and requested from Anthony.

On Stereo I also keep looking at the 9Cs to see if the sound if coming from the center because of the improved sound field. I even disconnected the Center just to be sure. LoL!
On 5.1 the 9Cs provides more depth.
I now have the audio quality in the Study Den at a very affordable cost.
Super Sulit!

Thank you very much to this helpful thread! More Power!

sir, how much did the mod cost you?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: zerocul on Nov 22, 2012 at 10:17 PM
Need advice BADLY!

Tomorrow I'm planning to buy this (http://img91.exs.cx/img91/2019/diamond-9.jpg) powered by this Yamaha RX-V373.

Is this a good combination? Need help on this, dont want to waste money on this pls.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Nov 23, 2012 at 01:05 AM
Need advice BADLY!

Tomorrow I'm planning to buy this (http://img91.exs.cx/img91/2019/diamond-9.jpg) powered by this Yamaha RX-V373.

Is this a good combination? Need help on this, dont want to waste money on this pls.

The 3xx and 4xx series AV receivers from Yamaha cannot support much current. I suggest looking at Polk M speakers, as they are very easy to drive.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: zerocul on Nov 23, 2012 at 04:33 AM
What do you mean it cannot support it? I wont be able to use this speaker set to this A/V reciever?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gunslinger on Nov 23, 2012 at 08:29 AM
You can but it may not have enough juice to power the speakers if you play it loud.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: rafa_palma on Nov 23, 2012 at 10:08 AM
You may also want to consider Pioneer receiver for your diamond 9 set-up.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Nov 23, 2012 at 05:51 PM
What do you mean it cannot support it? I wont be able to use this speaker set to this A/V reciever?

It can run those speakers, but it can't support a lot of current. I just realized that you're looking at a sattelite set. Your AVR should power those just fine. I thought you were looking at getting burlier models.

You may also want to consider Pioneer receiver for your diamond 9 set-up.

I agree. It's a combination that's worth exploring, especially at the entry level.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: zerocul on Nov 23, 2012 at 10:48 PM
Thanks

Is Pioneer A/V receivers more powerful than Yamaha even the entry level Pioneer?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mr.brightside on Nov 24, 2012 at 11:21 AM
Your required power/watts in an amp is relative to room size and speaker sensitivity. For entry level AVRs the rated power in the specs won't make much of a difference in practical use IMO, unless it's twice the watt rating of the other (or close to double). Manufacturers usually also rate their power specs different from one another.

Best to choose the model with the features/price that you like. Audition first, if it doesn't go loud enough for you,  try other models. HTH
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hitman531ph on Dec 15, 2012 at 02:42 PM
Just got a brand new 9.2 last night.  I managed to find the time today to set them up and connect them to my NAD amp as a 2-channel audio, bi-wired on A+B.   Sounds great to me, in my own room.  They put a smile to my face and hearing my favorite music far better than I can previously remember.  [Currently listening to Sting - The Best of 25 Years, got a copy courtesy of Smart before the Sting concert]

Did a little backread and somebody said the 9 series were "ngongo".  Was the 9 series used in a 5.1 or home theater set up that the "ngongo" was noticed?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hitman531ph on Dec 19, 2012 at 02:19 PM
Inside a Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series

(http://www.stereophile.com/images/archivesart/1105wharf2.jpg)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 19, 2012 at 02:47 PM
Just got a brand new 9.2 last night.  I managed to find the time today to set them up and connect them to my NAD amp as a 2-channel audio, bi-wired on A+B.   Sounds great to me, in my own room.  They put a smile to my face and hearing my favorite music far better than I can previously remember.  [Currently listening to Sting - The Best of 25 Years, got a copy courtesy of Smart before the Sting concert]

Did a little backread and somebody said the 9 series were "ngongo".  Was the 9 series used in a 5.1 or home theater set up that the "ngongo" was noticed?

audio po...hihihi
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hitman531ph on Dec 19, 2012 at 10:51 PM
I don't notice it as ngongo.  I played good CDs with it with my new Pioneer DVD player 3022KV.  The amp is a NAD 304 on tone defeat (flat).  Bass, mids and highs were clear and smooth.  Not hard or soft.  Just right.  And the bi-wiring significantly improved the sound quality.

Some people say it has to go through "break-in".  Well, for me, I already like my ash-black 9.2's now, even if a lot less than 50 hours of playing time so far.  No, I'm not satisfied with it, I'm happy with the 9.2's.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Courage on Dec 19, 2012 at 11:09 PM
I don't notice it as ngongo.  I played good CDs with it with my new Pioneer DVD player 3022KV.  The amp is a NAD 304 on tone defeat (flat).  Bass, mids and highs were clear and smooth.  Not hard or soft.  Just right.  And the bi-wiring significantly improved the sound quality.

Some people say it has to go through "break-in".  Well, for me, I already like my ash-black 9.2's now, even if a lot less than 50 hours of playing time so far.  No, I'm not satisfied with it, I'm happy with the 9.2's.

Congrats sir.. Ibat iba talaga ang taste ng tao pag dating sa Audio..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 20, 2012 at 01:09 PM
I don't notice it as ngongo.  I played good CDs with it with my new Pioneer DVD player 3022KV.  The amp is a NAD 304 on tone defeat (flat).  Bass, mids and highs were clear and smooth.  Not hard or soft.  Just right.  And the bi-wiring significantly improved the sound quality.

Some people say it has to go through "break-in".  Well, for me, I already like my ash-black 9.2's now, even if a lot less than 50 hours of playing time so far.  No, I'm not satisfied with it, I'm happy with the 9.2's.

you haven't heard other speakers..and i dont want you to hear them as well..
be happy for the current diamond 9 series that you have

brader jason
hihihi....as time goes by and you keep on auditioning - that's the hardest part...your hear better speaker beyond your budget but you need to have it and there you go..palo sa pwet haha
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hitman531ph on Dec 20, 2012 at 10:15 PM
I know there are better speakers out there such as B&W, but I think the Diamond 9.2 I have will last a long time with me.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 20, 2012 at 10:18 PM
I know there are better speakers out there such as B&W, but I think the Diamond 9.2 I have will last a long time with me.
thats good brader...
diamond speakers are really good
budget speakers that sounds good...

puro good ako ah hehe..
i used diamond before...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 20, 2012 at 10:21 PM
I use wharf 9 speakers for HT and audio... kung saan man yan ngongo na yan padinig ako, baka hindi yun speakers ang may problema... minsan yun din nakikinig ang may problema eh, feeling audiophile or kung minsan nasobrahan sa research.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 20, 2012 at 10:23 PM
Sa mga conscious sa presyo, dito lang sa atin mura ang Wharf, the same Wharf 9.5s being sold for less than 15K here is sold about 45K in London, England.

Source: My college buddy who is also an engineer working at an oil rig based in UK.



EDIT: And they are also made in China too.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 20, 2012 at 10:35 PM
hahaha feeling audiophile....
i lab it!

dami naka diamond before... ngayon anu na kaya gamit nila hihihihi...
based on my own observation before the mids of my 9.1 was not that good.. FOR ME and nababasa ko din , para saken minsan parang may sipon si singer... ayun sabi ng tenga ko...
hindi naman ako audiophile
dami ko na din napakingang speakers...
mahal talaga diamond sa ibang bansa...type ko nga ung 10 series dahil medyo ok na ung vocals...
ive been there heard that...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 20, 2012 at 10:38 PM
search ko nga ung mga nagquote na ngongo lol

Yes they are, but add a bit more and the Polk RTi series or the Paradigm Atoms surpass them IMHO. . . .

They are not ngongo as the Diamond 9.1 speakers that I had as a starter system, but you can do better. If they were priced at the same level as the 9.1s, then they would be an untouchable value for money.

Teka ano na ba system mo . . . am confused . . . :-)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 20, 2012 at 10:39 PM
My 9.3, 9CM and 9.1 were all modded by anthony around 2 years ago, they sound a lot better, it got rid of that "ngongo" sound of the 9 series.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 20, 2012 at 10:44 PM
arnoldc:

--- Quote ---So these must be audiophile recordings with well-thought out recording techniques that brought the musical detail to the fore, right?
--- End quote ---
Yes :)

Crap = ngongo, disoriented, incoherent. that is the 9.5 i'm describing. not even the low price compelled me to buy one. BUT, i'm not writing it off. heard it in one store (Spectra, and I have no complaints on the store and it's staff), surely would like to hear it somewhere else.




hi there Ryan.

nakabili ka na ba? if you want a decent ht system then you've made a wrong start. why? your main speakers must be of same brand and series. ok na sana ang 8.4 & 8.1 kaso jbl ang center mo. many said yammies ang magandang match sa wharfs. why? matalas ang tunog ng yammies at muddy naman ang wharfs. actually, any amp will do as long as satisfied ka. ganyan din ako dati. patanong-tanong. many said wharfs are bang for the buck! but i say otherwise. why? through audition. hindi ako natuwa. pigil ang tunog. may pagka ngongo pa. no offense sa mga wharf lovers/owners ha in fact wharfs (valdus 100) ang surround ko pero hindi ngongo. iba pa rin talaga na ikaw mismo ang makarinig. ang gamit ng kuya ko 8.1 + center of same series & yamaha at ok naman. maganda (para sa akin). hth  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 20, 2012 at 10:48 PM
i never did say ngongo
kahit icheck nyo mga post ko
i love dia 9.1 before
my comment lage is ung mids hindi masyado ok...
for audio...
for HT panalo

i myself was a owner of wharf....

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sientobente on Dec 20, 2012 at 10:51 PM
the reason why i would always recommend proper amplification with wharfs is because they really have potential to sing, otherwise with poor current, dun lalabas yung sinasabing ngongo sound.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Courage on Dec 20, 2012 at 10:56 PM
the reason why i would always recommend proper amplification with wharfs is because they really have potential to sing, otherwise with poor current, dun lalabas yung sinasabing ngongo sound.

I remember during my early times sa PDVD.. Wharfedale ang malimit start up setup ng mga tao dito... Lalo na nung nilabas ang Wharfs Diamond 8 Series tapos nag ka award pa.. Isa na ako sa mga nagka Wharfs 8 nung panahong yun... Uso din dati na pa modify kay sir Anthony ang mga wharfs nila specially yung tweeter...

Even today i see people here modifying their Wharfs tweeter to a better one... My question is why?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 20, 2012 at 11:00 PM
I remember during my early times sa PDVD.. Wharfedale ang malimit start up setup ng mga tao dito... Lalo na nung nilabas ang Wharfs Diamond 8 Series tapos nag ka award pa.. Isa na ako sa mga nagka Wharfs 8 nung panahong yun... Uso din dati na pa modify kay sir Anthony ang mga wharfs nila specially yung tweeter...

Even today i see people here modifying their Wharfs tweeter to a better one... My question is why?

ang tweeter ay gamit sa BOSES
BOSES/GUItars etc = MIDS
minsan sa gitara medyo ok pa - pero sa pure vocals pwede pero may hinahanap ka
pinapamodify nila to get better results with mids..

i did try int amp and it got a little better but wanting more
anu bang magandang amp dyan? hihihi
ung kayang magdrive ng 4ohms?  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Timithekid on Dec 20, 2012 at 11:05 PM
I remember during my early times sa PDVD.. Wharfedale ang malimit start up setup ng mga tao dito... Lalo na nung nilabas ang Wharfs Diamond 8 Series tapos nag ka award pa.. Isa na ako sa mga nagka Wharfs 8 nung panahong yun... Uso din dati na pa modify kay sir Anthony ang mga wharfs nila specially yung tweeter...

Even today i see people here modifying their Wharfs tweeter to a better one... My question is why?

My Diamond 10's now belong to my bro and ironically, the wharfs which are known to be warm to laid back become bright when sounds peak, yung sudden sigaw in an action movie doon mo mapapansin na bright yung tweets, otherwise it stays true to its reputation, maybe that's the reason why they mod the tweets.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Courage on Dec 20, 2012 at 11:05 PM
Kumusta naman kaya ang DFS ng wharfs? Ok kayang pag surrounds? Anong mas ok DFS 9 or 10?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 20, 2012 at 11:07 PM
Kumusta naman kaya ang DFS ng wharfs? Ok kayang pag surrounds? Anong mas ok DFS 9 or 10?
maganda brader...
pwede kasama ni rti hehe
sorry sa OT

same lang daw ung 9dfs and 10dfs... but i havent heard the 10dfs
so get a used one...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Timithekid on Dec 20, 2012 at 11:07 PM
Kumusta naman kaya ang DFS ng wharfs? Ok kayang pag surrounds? Anong mas ok DFS 9 or 10?

yung 10DFS walang talo bro, I will highly recommend it.  cant comment on the 9, kasi I never owned one.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Courage on Dec 20, 2012 at 11:19 PM
yung 10DFS walang talo bro, I will highly recommend it.  cant comment on the 9, kasi I never owned one.

10DFS ba gamit mo for surrounds?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jhelenz on Dec 20, 2012 at 11:28 PM
dahil mura yung wharfs 9 series most users pair it with an entry level amp.magaganda reviews nung 9 series with audio magazines ang di yata alam ng iba mga high end equipment ang gamit ng mga reviewers.for me pag entry level amp(especially yung ht receivers) ang gamit mo hindi mo talaga sya mamamaximize.try mo sya gamitan ng mid to high end level and see if is still ngongo.sir jojod likes his wharf 9 series kasi simple because he knows how to make them sing.
i've owned 9.1 before then nagtry ako sa store ng isang pair ng speakers na twice ng price nya.listening to the same amp,may improvement ng konti pero not enough to justify the price difference.take note that this is just my personal opinion and am not  an expert
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Timithekid on Dec 21, 2012 at 12:10 AM
10DFS ba gamit mo for surrounds?

bro ko 10DFS gamit nya.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Courage on Dec 21, 2012 at 12:11 AM
bro ko 10DFS gamit nya.

Ahh ok... magkano ba 10DFS ngayon?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Timithekid on Dec 21, 2012 at 12:14 AM
Ahh ok... magkano ba 10DFS ngayon?

sa SnS kuha namin was 5500 i think
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kane on Dec 21, 2012 at 12:35 AM
dahil mura yung wharfs 9 series most users pair it with an entry level amp.magaganda reviews nung 9 series with audio magazines ang di yata alam ng iba mga high end equipment ang gamit ng mga reviewers.for me pag entry level amp(especially yung ht receivers) ang gamit mo hindi mo talaga sya mamamaximize.try mo sya gamitan ng mid to high end level and see if is still ngongo.sir jojod likes his wharf 9 series kasi simple because he knows how to make them sing.
i've owned 9.1 before then nagtry ako sa store ng isang pair ng speakers na twice ng price nya.listening to the same amp,may improvement ng konti pero not enough to justify the price difference.take note that this is just my personal opinion and am not  an expert

+1 ako dito. I use an older yamaha avr (without hdmi pa), and my wharfes 9.3 sound great. My yamaha is almost 30 lbs with 100wpc. Thats why im hesitant to upgrade to an entry level avr na may hdmi even though may mga mura ngayon. The speakers might sound bad, in the end you'll end up paying more dahil mapipilitan ka mag upgrade ng speaker. Kaya save nalang muna para ma afford mid level to hi end receiver.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 21, 2012 at 12:55 AM
many would argue that they have heard a lot of speakers, so what? that only validates the amp.

put it another way, try a speaker with different amps, that's a different story. but then again, it's your money so sige palit lang ng palit ng gears...

for what it's worth, I'm using a 200W version of the Honey Badger power amp to power my 9.1s, my source is a Numark Mitrack Pro, pang party namin siya hindi pang audiophile.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 21, 2012 at 12:57 AM
My Diamond 10's now belong to my bro and ironically, the wharfs which are known to be warm to laid back become bright when sounds peak, yung sudden sigaw in an action movie doon mo mapapansin na bright yung tweets, otherwise it stays true to its reputation, maybe that's the reason why they mod the tweets.

In my experience, a perfect example of lean amplification.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Timithekid on Dec 21, 2012 at 12:58 AM
Wharf's being termed as entry level is a misconception in my opinion,  I think people are relating "entry" level to price because wharf's here are relatively cheap compared to other countries.  Wharf's in fact are not the easiest speakers to drive but if properly driven they can compete with the more expensive brands.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Timithekid on Dec 21, 2012 at 01:03 AM
In my experience, a perfect example of lean amplification.

Master Jo, ibig mong sabihin is bitn na ang power right?  hindi naman kailangan umabot sa clipping para talagang mapansin na bitin na ang power diba?

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 21, 2012 at 01:07 AM
Master Jo, ibig mong sabihin is bitn na ang power right?  hindi naman kailangan umabot sa clipping para talagang mapansin na bitin na ang power diba?




Solid state amps tend to become non-linear when pushed to their limits. Meron din insufficiently fed. Meaning, kaya pa nun amp, kaso bitin na sa power supply. Kung 2-channel sana ang usapan ok pa, pero pag AVR na wala ako tiwala eh, minsan 1-channel driven lang ang power ratings.

Hindi naman sa paabutin mo sa clipping, pero what you are missing is headroom. Pasigawin mo with ample amounts of power and hindi magtutunog bright because makakasabay ang lows. Pero pag sinisinok ang amp, kahit warm sounding pa sila sigurado ako lean yan. Tried and tested.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Timithekid on Dec 21, 2012 at 01:24 AM

Solid state amps tend to become non-linear when pushed to their limits. Meron din insufficiently fed. Meaning, kaya pa nun amp, kaso bitin na sa power supply. Kung 2-channel sana ang usapan ok pa, pero pag AVR na wala ako tiwala eh, minsan 1-channel driven lang ang power ratings.

Hindi naman sa paabutin mo sa clipping, pero what you are missing is headroom. Pasigawin mo with ample amounts of power and hindi magtutunog bright because makakasabay ang lows. Pero pag sinisinok ang amp, kahit warm sounding pa sila sigurado ako lean yan. Tried and tested.



Ah ok, kaya pala sakin I never experienced it because I'm connected to a power amp, so may headroom ako and my brother only uses his avr so that may explain kung bakit bitin ang power.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kane on Dec 21, 2012 at 07:13 AM
Ang onkyo ba hindi match sa wharfs?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 21, 2012 at 11:00 AM
Ah ok, kaya pala sakin I never experienced it because I'm connected to a power amp, so may headroom ako and my brother only uses his avr so that may explain kung bakit bitin ang power.

I'm not saying that your brother's AVR is weak, no because there are other factors to consider. Placement, room treatment, and more which I'm sure you already know. With speakers, Power is not everything, unlike with amps which it is most of the time.

Nakita niyo naman ang mga AVRs, halos enough capacitance lang to minimize ripple in the power supply, sa laki lang ng transformer bumabawi to accommodate the sudden draw of current.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: josephtan2k on Jan 04, 2013 at 10:29 AM
Hi Sirs/Mams,

Need advice on what amplifier to use with Wharfedale Cinema 9.

(http://img91.exs.cx/img91/2019/diamond-9.jpg)

The amps I'm currently thinking of are Yamaha 373 and Pioneer 522.
Application is 85% movies (with 3D), 10% audio(occassional videoke) and 5% games.

Movies would be my primary use but a decent sound for audio would be great still.
Please supply pros and cons for the amps, I'm a newbie so I really don't know much about these things.

Hope you guys can help me out. TIA!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wakadus on Jan 04, 2013 at 12:48 PM
i'm planning to do the same setup very soon. So any feedback will be much appreciated :)

Hi Sirs/Mams,

Need advice on what amplifier to use with Wharfedale Cinema 9.

(http://img91.exs.cx/img91/2019/diamond-9.jpg)

The amps I'm currently thinking of are Yamaha 373 and Pioneer 522.
Application is 85% movies (with 3D), 10% audio(occassional videoke) and 5% games.

Movies would be my primary use but a decent sound for audio would be great still.
Please supply pros and cons for the amps, I'm a newbie so I really don't know much about these things.

Hope you guys can help me out. TIA!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on Jan 04, 2013 at 03:17 PM
The amps I'm currently thinking of are Yamaha 373 and Pioneer 522.
Application is 85% movies (with 3D), 10% audio(occassional videoke) and 5% games.

Try both. Chipamp vs. Discrete Mosfet.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 04, 2013 at 03:23 PM
Hi Sirs/Mams,

Need advice on what amplifier to use with Wharfedale Cinema 9.

(http://img91.exs.cx/img91/2019/diamond-9.jpg)

The amps I'm currently thinking of are Yamaha 373 and Pioneer 522.
Application is 85% movies (with 3D), 10% audio(occassional videoke) and 5% games.

Movies would be my primary use but a decent sound for audio would be great still.
Please supply pros and cons for the amps, I'm a newbie so I really don't know much about these things.

Hope you guys can help me out. TIA!
pwede mo taasan ng konti ung specs to mid level..para madrive ng mayos ung speaker mo..
medyo power hungry ung wharf at 86db 6ohms
pio 821 or 822

anu palang fronts nyan?hindi ko makita ung pics e
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Timithekid on Jan 04, 2013 at 03:26 PM
pwede mo taasan ng konti ung specs to mid level..para madrive ng mayos ung speaker mo..
medyo power hungry ung wharf at 86db 6ohms
pio 821 or 822

anu palang fronts nyan?hindi ko makita ung pics e

9.0 yata bro, yung bookshelf.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 04, 2013 at 03:34 PM
9.0 yata bro, yung bookshelf.
pwede na siguro ung 521 or 522 at 9999php nalang ata sa LIS yan
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: josephtan2k on Jan 04, 2013 at 04:20 PM
Ah talaga kase I was leaning towards Yamaha talaga except that walang stocks. I checked lang kung ano yung kaperahas ng price range and saw the Pioneer 522. Almost same price, napapaisip ako if I should wait na magkaroon ng stocks or should go to pioneer kung better talaga sya.
Kaso I have no idea kung ano magiging difference nilang dalawa..if one of them is really better for the speakers..
Yamaha is 500w ata and Pioneer is 400w, but I'm not really sure how to interpret it, besides the obvious na mas malakas yung Yamaha. Yung mga tunog wala na talaga ako alam.hehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: josephtan2k on Jan 04, 2013 at 04:21 PM
pwede na siguro ung 521 or 522 at 9999php nalang ata sa LIS yan

Sir saan yung LIS?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Timithekid on Jan 04, 2013 at 04:25 PM
Sir saan yung LIS?

Sa shangrila mall edsa po. 5th floor po

While you are there, visit 5th ave  and sights and sounds too, so that you have choices.  Meron din po sa megamall na listening room if you are willing to walk.  And another shop in Front of sights and sounds that sells high end focals, although i forget their name.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: josephtan2k on Jan 04, 2013 at 04:34 PM
Ah Listening in Style?I think nakita ko na yun..sige sir..mejo mahirap maghanap ng nagbebenta ng yamaha e, sights and sounds yung nakikita ko kaso walang stock..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Timithekid on Jan 04, 2013 at 04:44 PM
Ah Listening in Style?I think nakita ko na yun..sige sir..mejo mahirap maghanap ng nagbebenta ng yamaha e, sights and sounds yung nakikita ko kaso walang stock..

Listening room po sa megamall may yamaha
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Kakashi03 on Jan 14, 2013 at 08:39 AM
Mga sir question po saan po ba ako makakabili ng parang thread ng speaker terminal ng 9.2? saka yung caps nya late ko nlang kasi napansin thanks po sir
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hitman531ph on Jan 20, 2013 at 09:24 PM
I just saw Django Unchained with the Wharfedale 9.2 connected to a NAD 304 earlier today.

Not an HT setup, but a 2-channel set-up.  My 9.2 did not disappoint at all, through 2 hours 45 minutes of it (it's supposed to be longer than that but I stopped watching when the end credits came on the screen).  I am amazed what the 9.2 can do.  Of course the amp also had something to do with that.

Oh, and the NAD 304 was on tone defeat (flat).
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ricracer on Jan 22, 2013 at 03:19 PM
Hi Guys!  I was using my 9.5s as videoke speakers only to find out after that the tweeters were damaged due to mic feedback. Any recos for a good but sulit place to bring my wharfs for repair? TIA!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 22, 2013 at 03:29 PM
Hi Guys!  I was using my 9.5s as videoke speakers only to find out after that the tweeters were damaged due to mic feedback. Any recos for a good but sulit place to bring my wharfs for repair? TIA!
dalhin mo kay anthony....
anthony audio
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Timithekid on Jan 22, 2013 at 03:34 PM
Sir meron din thread dito na speaker doctor, try to find it.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: drahcirdestiny on May 02, 2013 at 07:25 AM
Sirs newbie here. Masyado po bang malakas yung RXV471 if im going to use wharfe 9.4 speakers? I noticed in the speaker manual, power handling is 20 to 100w only. I think my receiver is rated 135/w for an asian model. Not sure though. If I set the 9.4 to Large masisira po ba yung speaker? o kelangan small lang? Thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on May 02, 2013 at 08:44 PM
Sirs newbie here. Masyado po bang malakas yung RXV471 if im going to use wharfe 9.4 speakers? I noticed in the speaker manual, power handling is 20 to 100w only. I think my receiver is rated 135/w for an asian model. Not sure though. If I set the 9.4 to Large masisira po ba yung speaker? o kelangan small lang? Thanks!

Your speaker can handle it, as long as you run within the limits of your gear. I suggest using small with your setup if you have a subwoofer.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: drahcirdestiny on May 04, 2013 at 08:34 AM
Your speaker can handle it, as long as you run within the limits of your gear. I suggest using small with your setup if you have a subwoofer.

Thank you sir!  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jetstar on May 07, 2013 at 05:39 AM
Sirs newbie here. Masyado po bang malakas yung RXV471 if im going to use wharfe 9.4 speakers? I noticed in the speaker manual, power handling is 20 to 100w only. I think my receiver is rated 135/w for an asian model. Not sure though. If I set the 9.4 to Large masisira po ba yung speaker? o kelangan small lang? Thanks!

I'm using 9.1 for my Yamaha RX-V667 and I'm very contented with the setup. I guess the power handling of the 667 made my 9.1 sing.  I did not even use bi-amplification on my setup.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: PokeAudio on May 17, 2013 at 03:48 PM
Ano po ba relatively cheap receiver and kaya mag drive ng Diamond 9.6?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Stagea on May 17, 2013 at 08:50 PM
Ano po ba relatively cheap receiver and kaya mag drive ng Diamond 9.6?

If you cross them high and don't play loud, then most will be okay. They do tend to sound a lot better with the model lines costing 70k and up, however. These speakers dip below 3 ohms and can get quite capacitive at certain frequencies. You can look at used units if you're looking for a cheap receiver that'd work well with these speakers.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: PokeAudio on May 18, 2013 at 12:06 AM
If you cross them high and don't play loud, then most will be okay. They do tend to sound a lot better with the model lines costing 70k and up, however. These speakers dip below 3 ohms and can get quite capacitive at certain frequencies. You can look at used units if you're looking for a cheap receiver that'd work well with these speakers.

Oh ok. I was eyeing the Pioneer VSX 522 to go with the Diamond 9.6, I won't be playing it loud and they will be placed in a small room - about 20 sqm. Do you think VSX 522 would do? I heard though, that power hungry speakers such as the 9.6 may damage receivers that have low wattage, is this any true?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: joko11 on May 19, 2013 at 10:12 PM
Oh ok. I was eyeing the Pioneer VSX 522 to go with the Diamond 9.6, I won't be playing it loud and they will be placed in a small room - about 20 sqm. Do you think VSX 522 would do? I heard though, that power hungry speakers such as the 9.6 may damage receivers that have low wattage, is this any true?
baliktad po sir.
kung underpowered or overdriven ang amp, speaker po ang may tendency na masira kung humingi sya ng voltage/current beyong amp maximum capacity
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: PokeAudio on May 20, 2013 at 12:39 AM
baliktad po sir.
kung underpowered or overdriven ang amp, speaker po ang may tendency na masira kung humingi sya ng voltage/current beyong amp maximum capacity

Ahh ganun po ba sir, ok thanks.

Ok na kaya ang VSX 522 para sa Diamond 9.6? Ang pagkaka research ko kasi, ang Diamond 9.6 is 40W-200W, at ang VSX 522 ay 80 watts per channel. So hindi lang maximized ang speakers pero hindi naman po bibigay ang speakers in the long run?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: joko11 on May 20, 2013 at 01:51 AM
Ahh ganun po ba sir, ok thanks.

Ok na kaya ang VSX 522 para sa Diamond 9.6? Ang pagkaka research ko kasi, ang Diamond 9.6 is 40W-200W, at ang VSX 522 ay 80 watts per channel. So hindi lang maximized ang speakers pero hindi naman po bibigay ang speakers in the long run?
its safe.wag mo lang pang-gigilan ang volume knob ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: PokeAudio on May 20, 2013 at 02:16 AM
its safe.wag mo lang pang-gigilan ang volume knob ;)

Haha ok thank you po sir!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: c.a. on Jun 26, 2013 at 02:30 PM
the 9.6's are power hungry and would benefit a lot from ample amplification.  i've tried my 9.6 on an 80wpc kenwood reciever, it sounded like crap.  hooked it up on a 100wpc yamaha rxv-620 and it sounded better.  hooked to a pioneer sa-8900ii (80wpc) vintage integrated amp and it sounded much better.  hooked to a sansui au-@607 (90wpc) and the 9.6's sings..  haven't tried a pio vsx522 though..

if you are asking if it's safe, it is.. (just dont paly it too loud)
but it would sound much better with more powerful amps.. don't rely on spec sheets,they lie sometimes. (marketing strategy) still best to audition. trust your ears.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Allan_2180 on May 11, 2016 at 08:13 PM
Buhayin ko lang itong thread na ito for those who are still loving their Diamond 9 Series :) and I like to share my repair and small modification with my Diamond 9's.
After more than 9 yrs the sound coming from the speakers suddenly got distorted and noticed some of the woofer's rubber surrounds got partially ripped off and what I did to prevent its "self destruction" is that I applied small amount of Mighty Bond Extreme w/c is impact resistant and more flexible and do not use the yellow one, it is brittle and turns white when dried, apply it around the rubber surround using a flat precision tool...

(http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae331/Allan_2180/Mobile%20Uploads/P_20160511_121952_zpsbp4kvntr.jpg)

(http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae331/Allan_2180/Mobile%20Uploads/P_20160511_122139_1_zpsmodouytf.jpg)

Allow it to dry
(http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae331/Allan_2180/Mobile%20Uploads/P_20160511_122713_zpsriyml5fy.jpg)

Install it back to its case
(http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae331/Allan_2180/Mobile%20Uploads/P_20160511_122021_zpsjv668wqn.jpg)

(http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae331/Allan_2180/Mobile%20Uploads/P_20160511_122031_zpsllni4838.jpg)

(http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae331/Allan_2180/Mobile%20Uploads/P_20160511_122051_1_zpsnlt7epgq.jpg)

after a few days it will dry up like this
(http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae331/Allan_2180/Mobile%20Uploads/P_20160511_123549_1_zpspxznjdi6.jpg)

I did the same procedure with DFS surround speakers.
Rubber surround's flexibility and speaker performance won't be affected by glue as long as it is applied around the rigid area only.

Also upgraded ALL the stock laid-back silk dome tweeters to a more aggressive yet smooth as silk dome tweeters.
Got these from Amazon.com
(http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae331/Allan_2180/Mobile%20Uploads/51ksgmyEt7L._SL1500__zps5lg54rgr.jpg)
(http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae331/Allan_2180/Mobile%20Uploads/41oUcYkSIpL._SL1500__zpsyabtf5ke.jpg)

(http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae331/Allan_2180/Mobile%20Uploads/P_20160511_195727_zpsdoerfb9b.jpg)

Now they all sound great again and prevented the rubber surrounds from ripping apart.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: SETSUT on Jul 01, 2016 at 12:09 AM
Chief Allan_2180, anong size po ng allen wrench pinangtanggal nyo sa driver? tnx
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: qguy on Jul 01, 2016 at 05:59 AM
Allen wrench are sold by the set, so once you buy, sure na swak yung mabibili mo....

 
Chief Allan_2180, anong size po ng allen wrench pinangtanggal nyo sa driver? tnx
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: SETSUT on Jul 01, 2016 at 11:51 PM
Allen wrench are sold by the set, so once you buy, sure na swak yung mabibili mo....
Ayus...salamat qguy.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jay john on Jul 13, 2016 at 07:12 PM
Is there a way/ maintenance that will prevent this thing to happen to our wharfedale speakers? I heard this is common. Thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: markcrenz on Jul 13, 2016 at 08:10 PM
Apply 303 Aerospace Protectant or Mothers Protectant
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jay john on Jul 17, 2016 at 04:05 PM
Apply 303 Aerospace Protectant or Mothers Protectant

Thank you Sir. Saan po available Ito? Pwede po ba Ito sa lahat ng speakers?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: AppleMan on Jul 17, 2016 at 07:02 PM
Di kaya lumutong o rumupok eventually yung cone or rubber nung speaker sa liquid na yan?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Jul 17, 2016 at 11:34 PM
Allen wrench are sold by the set, so once you buy, sure na swak yung mabibili mo....

 


You guys can buy Allen wrench per piece, not by set at To Suy or any other screw sellers. No pun intended.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dannielsimone on Jan 07, 2019 at 02:23 PM
The 9.6 sounded great at the demo.  They are a few years old already.  They were powered with a Pioneer.  Had to have them for the price. They sound almost as good as my paradigm monitor 7's...( I said almost)  ;D

Check out the list below.
Editor’s Choice Best Floorstanding Speakers Under $1000
http://reviews.audioreview.com/blog/editors-choice-best-floor-standing-speakers-under-1000/

Could not resist.  Even though my budget was for the 9.5 these babies won me over.  Got the 9.6 the 9cm and the 9.1 (surrounds) and am using my old onkyo 80/60 watts per channel for now.  Also matched them up with the mirage Omni10s Sub. This sub is a bargain for under 9K.  Seems to be doing the trick real nicely. Must say the speakers sound exactly as I knew they would, a little stiff, hollow and  not very warm.  ;)   Par for the course with new wharfs as so many have said. Even my wife noticed it. I am sure this is the result of needing to break them in. Or is it my Onkyo?
http://reviews.cnet.com/av-receivers/onkyo-tx-sv525-av/1707-6466_7-33787617.html


  I know that it will take a good month for these babies to loosen up.  Would you say 200 hours?  Any advice during the break in period?

Am closing  deal on a HDTV over the next day or two.  Will probably  be a Panny plasma.  A great addition to the Wharfs.


So The system sounds great 8 years later.  I am now downsizing and must sell the 5.1 plus a custom made cabinet.
Was 25 K but now lowered price to 24K.  Check it out.

https://www.olx.ph/item/wharfedale-diamond-9-series-5-1-with-custom-cabinet-ID8C8cG.html?h=cdf19ddf97