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Title: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Yakuini on Sep 02, 2004 at 11:56 AM
I took the liberty to create a separate thread for the much awaited Diamond 9 Series because I am sure a lot of enthusiast will pay attention to these new speakers.

Para naman di matabunan ang Diamond 8 discussions  ;)


http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/range.htm

9.0
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/90.gif)

9.1 - P5,500
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/91.gif)

9.2 - P7,000
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/92.gif)

9.3 - _8, 200
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/93.gif)

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Yakuini on Sep 02, 2004 at 12:03 PM
9.4 - P9,700
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/94.gif)

9.5 - P12,500
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/95.gif)

9.6
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/96.gif)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Yakuini on Sep 02, 2004 at 12:08 PM
9CC
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/9_CC.gif)

9CS
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/9_CS.gif)

9CM
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/9_CM.gif)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Sep 02, 2004 at 05:10 PM
  "the KEVLAR mid/bass driver and dark grey livery give the 9.1s the look and feel of a much more expensive design." - What Hi-Fi? October 2004
 
"look and feel" lang?  how about the sound? 

I agree, they do look expensive.  And from the site, with the 9.6 giving out a -3db point at 30hz, para ka na rin siguro naka sub.   ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 02, 2004 at 05:17 PM
  "the KEVLAR mid/bass driver and dark grey livery give the 9.1s the look and feel of a much more expensive design." - What Hi-Fi? October 2004
 
"look and feel" lang?  how about the sound? 

I agree, they do look expensive.  And from the site, with the 9.6 giving out a -3db point at 30hz, para ka na rin siguro naka sub. ;D

Hehehe Hope the it sounds impressive also... pag release we shall see... este hear pala..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Sep 02, 2004 at 06:46 PM
hope the tweeters in this one sound way better than the 8 series...naspoil na ko sa vifa xt tweeter na nilagay ko sa 5 fters ko e O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 02, 2004 at 06:59 PM
John,

Nice point there yun tweeter sana medyo open na.. >:D >:D wish wish
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 03, 2004 at 02:01 PM
Guys,

Mukhang marami nagaabang dito ah hehehehe wish wish affordable.. :D :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Yakuini on Sep 03, 2004 at 02:12 PM
Ako naman aabangan ko ang mga 8's nila...am sure meron mag-u-upgrade from 8 to 9  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Sep 03, 2004 at 04:54 PM
wish wish wish............... sana nga affordable, just like the 8 series.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: j_albert22 on Sep 03, 2004 at 06:52 PM
wish wish wish............... sana nga affordable, just like the 8 series.

maraming nagdadasal nyan hehehehe isa na ko don ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hans_adriane on Sep 06, 2004 at 09:45 AM
Guys,

Got new ETA of diamond 9 would be January pa according to Spectra hope date will change before Christmas.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Sep 06, 2004 at 11:09 AM
Guys,

Got new ETA of diamond 9 would be January pa according to Spectra hope date will change before Christmas.

Tamang tama - wala ng pera tao katatapos lang ng pasko. Wala ng bibili sa kanila pag mahal. mag-iintroductory proce sila - so mura!!!  ;D

When you wish upon a star.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 06, 2004 at 11:40 AM
ahobbit,

OO nga no teka baka pati tayo wala na din moolah.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Sep 06, 2004 at 03:07 PM
ayos yan..... pag jan pa, antay na naman tayo ng june...  hehehehe. tagal!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: theman on Sep 14, 2004 at 12:35 PM

check the price here:

http://www.hifibitz.co.uk/manufacturers_results.asp?manufacturerid=47&name=Wharfedale

price of diamond 9.0 is 10 pounds more expensive than the 8.1 entry speaker. pero ung next in line na bookshelf, it is 109 vs 180.  biglang steep ang price.

ang main question is this.... meron ba na gawa sa china?  kung wala ay expect similar price here and uk.  di katulad sa 8 series, mura dito kc gawa sa asia.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Sep 14, 2004 at 12:48 PM
hopefully it will be cheaper here than in UK. most of the wharfedales are just designed in UK and manufactured in china.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: fierari on Sep 14, 2004 at 01:49 PM
baka parang M7 to M3 yan laki ng minahal ng m3 heheheheheh
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 14, 2004 at 03:23 PM
fierari,

Naku hope and wish still affordable para naman maraming happy!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Sep 14, 2004 at 05:27 PM
guys,

according sa hifibitz price, diamond 9.4 costs 299.95 pounds. if converted to peso, it is around 30k. mura nga  ;D bili na kayo..... yoko na  ;D ;D joke
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Sep 15, 2004 at 11:41 AM
nakupo.......... [email protected] presyo ah!

but if it will be mass produced in china naka bumaba pa to half of its UK price.... at 15k, d n masama yon..... presyong mission na.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 15, 2004 at 01:47 PM
wanderlust,

Considering that the Diamonds are introduced here as entry level and cheap sana yun 9 eh ganun din.. hehehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Sep 15, 2004 at 02:05 PM
sana nga....

at sana made in china lang.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Sep 15, 2004 at 02:47 PM
My assessment are as follows:

The 9.0 is not the curved speaker enclosure and sports a 4" driver, and will cost same as 8.1 - here is 8.1 is better.

9.1 is similar driver size as 8.1 - will cost twice as much as 8.1. The same goes for 9.2 against 8.2, 9.4 against 8.3 and 9.5 against 8.4.

I wonder how much will 9.3 be?

Parang mahal! But evo is 3x pricey than 8 series, and the 9 series sems to be the offering of wharf for the evo performance at lesser budget.

IMHO, the comparison of 9series is with the evo one - so mura siya.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Sep 15, 2004 at 07:38 PM
wanderlust,

Considering that the Diamonds are introduced here as entry level and cheap sana yun 9 eh ganun din.. hehehehe


entry level nga ang diamond series kaso new release naman itong 9 series kaya may kamahalan pa din  ;D ;D pero mas mura siguro kesa sa Evo series  ::) ;D

tsaka halos parehas lang ang specs nila ng 8 series, sa design lang nagkatalo.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Sep 16, 2004 at 12:16 PM
hindi pa man din lumalabas and 9 series eh  marami nang nagbebenta ng 8 series sa buy and sell section, ano kaya balak nila? sana lumabas na 9 series. hehehe... ;)
abangan! :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 16, 2004 at 02:07 PM
hindi pa man din lumalabas and 9 series eh  marami nang nagbebenta ng 8 series sa buy and sell section, ano kaya balak nila? sana lumabas na 9 series. hehehe... ;)
abangan! :D

January ang last update pre ng ETA.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Sep 17, 2004 at 06:00 AM


January ang last update pre ng ETA.. ;D

Talaga sir? isa na ako sa mga mag aabang.  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 17, 2004 at 09:39 AM


Talaga sir? isa na ako sa mga mag aabang. ;)


Dami talaga waiting hehehehe kahit ako din.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Dracula on Sep 17, 2004 at 04:22 PM
Hi Guys,

I've actually auditioned the bookshelf diamond 9 series speakers...they were in the room when i was listening to the REL strata 5.  Pretty good sounding speakers I don't know if it's an improvement from the diamond 8 series never heard them yet(well properly auditioned would be more appropriate).  The hifibitz prizes are usually way above the prices in the philippines so it will probably be cheaper back home than here in the UK.  I'll try and audition these properly and give you feedback although I'm not much of an audiophile so I don't know if it'll be helpful. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Dracula on Sep 17, 2004 at 04:36 PM
I just talked to the shop where I heard the Diamond 9 to schedule an audition he said that the 9s wont be available for audition until the second week of october when the stocks from wharfedale arrive...the unit that was on display was sort of a test unit given to distributors
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Sep 17, 2004 at 04:41 PM
sir.....

that will be of great help to us.... we appreciate it really sir.

till the 2nd week of oct sir......
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Dracula on Sep 17, 2004 at 10:07 PM
sir.....

that will be of great help to us.... we appreciate it really sir.

till the 2nd week of oct sir......

Make that before the end of september I found a store which says their stock will arrive before the actual release date on the wharfedale website.... :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Sep 20, 2004 at 12:35 PM
nice...............


nice indeed......

we'll all be waiting here.......
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 29, 2004 at 08:00 PM
Technology for the Diamond 9 series..

Designed using the finest materials and technology in its class Diamond 9, yet again, redefines the standard of reproduction available. Whilst retaining many of the core features that made Diamond 8 successful, Diamond 9 introduces a raft of new features including:

 • a strong, inert, low resonance, curved and braced cabinet design
 • gold-plated and offset rear terminal posts for the best possible electrical conduction
 • fully shielded for use in close proximity to any display device or television
 • a simple crossover design to maintain phase coherency through the mid-range
 
 • high power 'rare-earth' magnet for high resolution and accuracy
 • a special alloy, chassis design to eliminate rear wave reflections from the chassis legs
 • dome midrange unit on Diamond 9.6 and large centre channel

Hehehehe para Pacific EVolution na nga..  ;D ;D ;D
 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Sep 30, 2004 at 01:21 PM
Hehehehe para Pacific EVolution na nga..  ;D ;D ;D
 

at least malapit na matapos denial stage mo: na makakabili kami ng pacific evolution at cheaper cost.  ;D magkano kaya 9.3? wla pa ba demo sa pinas?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Sep 30, 2004 at 02:20 PM
tama ka ahobbit para na rin tayong naka Evo nyan............       mura pa  ;D

type ko yung 9.4 :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 01, 2004 at 01:00 PM


at least malapit na matapos denial stage mo: na makakabili kami ng pacific evolution at cheaper cost.  ;D magkano kaya 9.3? wla pa ba demo sa pinas?

Waaaaaaaaaaa!!! LUGI... :'( :'( :'( :'( ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: losi_phile on Oct 01, 2004 at 01:30 PM
Technology for the Diamond 9 series..


 • high power 'rare-earth' magnet for high resolution and accuracy
 • a special alloy, chassis design to eliminate rear wave reflections from the chassis legs
 • dome midrange unit on Diamond 9.6 and large centre channel

Hehehehe para Pacific EVolution na nga.. ;D ;D ;D
 

Magnet pa lang mahal na, "rare earth" magnet - I remember these magnets when I'm still in the RC hobby - pinaka-expensive ang motor na "rare earth" magnet ang gamit ($150 - maliit lang ung nakakabit na magnet) pero siya pinaka-efficient.  Magkano nga kaya Diamond 9 series?  Hello Diamond 9.6...I'm waiting...come to papa... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sebman on Oct 01, 2004 at 01:37 PM


Magnet pa lang mahal na, "rare earth" magnet - I remember these magnets when I'm still in the RC hobby - pinaka-expensive ang motor na "rare earth" magnet ang gamit ($150 - maliit lang ung nakakabit na magnet) pero siya pinaka-efficient.  Magkano nga kaya Diamond 9 series?  Hello Diamond 9.6...I'm waiting...come to papa... ;D

congrats boss losi_phile dyan sa binabalak mo....  ;)  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 01, 2004 at 03:02 PM
matagal pa si... baka next year pa.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Oct 16, 2004 at 11:25 AM
Technology for the Diamond 9 series..

Designed using the finest materials and technology in its class Diamond 9, yet again, redefines the standard of reproduction available. Whilst retaining many of the core features that made Diamond 8 successful, Diamond 9 introduces a raft of new features including:

 • a strong, inert, low resonance, curved and braced cabinet design
 • gold-plated and offset rear terminal posts for the best possible electrical conduction
 • fully shielded for use in close proximity to any display device or television
 • a simple crossover design to maintain phase coherency through the mid-range
 
 • high power 'rare-earth' magnet for high resolution and accuracy
 • a special alloy, chassis design to eliminate rear wave reflections from the chassis legs
 • dome midrange unit on Diamond 9.6 and large centre channel

Hehehehe para Pacific EVolution na nga..  ;D ;D ;D
 

wowww....kailan ka kaya mapakingan, im sure in between the price of evo and 8 series ito, hope na kaya ng bulsa ito.... TAGAL MO SERIES 9 ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: zakkaz on Oct 16, 2004 at 07:34 PM
mukhang d na tyo magaantay ng matagal...........
may balita na NANDITO NA!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Oct 18, 2004 at 10:45 AM
mukhang d na tyo magaantay ng matagal...........
may balita na NANDITO NA!!!!!!!!!!

O kumpletuhin ang balita!  :(

Saan nandoon at magkano ang taga!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 18, 2004 at 11:03 AM
uu nga..nakakabitin eh...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Oct 18, 2004 at 11:19 AM
its available already!!!!!!! 9.1-9.5
get it now while its still hot
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Chito C. on Oct 18, 2004 at 11:28 AM
Sir,

Price po.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ferdie03 on Oct 18, 2004 at 11:32 AM
its available already!!!!!!! 9.1-9.5
get it now while its still hot

sir post mo naman price pls. ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 18, 2004 at 12:17 PM
Boys and Girls,

Got news talaga dito na Diamond 9 initially Black color daw meron..

Center - P4,500
Surround RS - P3,800
9.1 - P5,000
9.2 - P7,000
9.3 - P8,200
9.4 - P9,700
9.5 - P12,500
9.6 - Wala hehehehe

Got price from Spectra JIM

Bili bili na ako ng center wowowowow ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Oct 18, 2004 at 01:13 PM
Boys and Girls,

Got news talaga dito na Diamond 9 initially Black color daw meron..

Center - P4,500
Surround RS - P3,800
9.1 - P5,000
9.2 - P7,000
9.3 - P8,200
9.4 - P9,700
9.5 - P12,500
9.6 - Wala hehehehe

Got price from Spectra JIM

Bili bili na ako ng center wowowowow ;D ;D
correction:
9.1 - P5,500
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 18, 2004 at 01:16 PM
Boys and Girls,

Got news talaga dito na Diamond 9 initially Black color daw meron..

Center - P4,500
Surround RS - P3,800
9.1 - P5,000
9.2 - P7,000
9.3 - P8,200
9.4 - P9,700
9.5 - P12,500
9.6 - Wala hehehehe

Got price from Spectra JIM

Bili bili na ako ng center wowowowow ;D ;D

WOW! wala pa yung 9.6 hehehe mura yang intro price nila konting difference sa 8 series. boys and gels bili bili na kayo sa suking tindahan.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 18, 2004 at 01:18 PM
hans,

mukhang factory price yang list mo hehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 18, 2004 at 01:21 PM
Punk_kid,

Introductory price ata...

Specttra,

Thanks for the correction. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Chito C. on Oct 18, 2004 at 01:56 PM

correction:
9.1 - P5,500


pwede ba bpi 0%
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Oct 18, 2004 at 02:01 PM



pwede ba bpi 0%
sorry d kasa sa bpi 0% yun
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Chito C. on Oct 18, 2004 at 02:05 PM
Bili na kayo. Saluhin ko 8.3 nyo.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 18, 2004 at 02:33 PM
wala pang 9.6 sir >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jcob on Oct 18, 2004 at 02:36 PM
punk_kid,

Sir, sabihan mo ko pag napakingan mo na yung bagong diamond 9 series. kung malaki ba sound difference sa 8.3 natin. hehehe...

baka pwede ng ma-ipa ampon yung 8.3 ko.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 18, 2004 at 02:40 PM
sige sir audition natin pag meron na para may umampon na sa 8.3 mo, dami pa namang naka abang dyan hehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 18, 2004 at 02:42 PM
Punk_kid and Jcob,

Sir balita ko yun 9.2 ata o 9.3 kasing laki ng 602 S3.. hehehehehe meron display sa spectra sugod na..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jcob on Oct 18, 2004 at 02:43 PM
sige sir audition natin pag meron na para may umampon na sa 8.3 mo, dami pa namang naka abang dyan hehehe

oo, nga sir. nakakatukso kasi, mukang affordable yung price. sana may ibang color din.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Xzeo_L on Oct 18, 2004 at 02:47 PM
Pakibalitaan nyo po ako kung sakaling palitan nyo na mga 8.4 nyo! :-\ 09184471694 hehehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jcob on Oct 18, 2004 at 02:50 PM
Pakibalitaan nyo po ako kung sakaling palitan nyo na mga 8.4 nyo! :-\ 09184471694 hehehe.

Bayaan mo sir, hindi ka namin kakalimutan. by the way, may for sale na 8.3 sa buy&sell ah hindi pa rin sya nabibili hangang ngayon. baka gusto mo yun sir.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 18, 2004 at 02:56 PM


oo, nga sir. nakakatukso kasi, mukang affordable yung price. sana may ibang color din.

Hahaha very tempting talaga to sir grrrrrr... dapat kasi nuon pa ko bumili ng 8.3
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 18, 2004 at 03:00 PM
sold na ata yun mga tsong
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Oct 18, 2004 at 03:02 PM
KID, bilis! Bili na!!!!!..................  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 18, 2004 at 03:06 PM
sold na ata yun mga tsong

Grabe ang bilis naman nun...nde na yata i-naudition...   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 18, 2004 at 03:08 PM
Hmmmmmmmmmm...... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Oct 18, 2004 at 03:29 PM
ngek!.... ubos na kaagad! grabeeeee......pakinig munaaaaaaaaaaaa....... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Oct 18, 2004 at 03:34 PM
'ta 'na!   :-X

8.2k ang 9.3!  :o

Got to go and have to hear my future babe!  ;D

Sana this is better than the 8.3 (at 8k din)  ::)

Saan nagtatago si Spectra? I have to save a captive 9.3!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: fierari on Oct 18, 2004 at 03:36 PM
may 9.3 na???? san tinadahan yun?  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Oct 18, 2004 at 03:39 PM
Punk_kid and Jcob,

Sir balita ko yun 9.2 ata o 9.3 kasing laki ng 602 S3.. hehehehehe meron display sa spectra sugod na..
its 9.3 medyo malaki ang size medyo alanganin pang bookshelf and floorstand
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 18, 2004 at 03:39 PM
may 9.3 na???? san tinadahan yun?  ;D

wala na daw..nabili na..  ;D..Kung sino man po yung bumili paki post naman yung feedback...  :-*
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Oct 18, 2004 at 03:41 PM
may 9.3 na???? san tinadahan yun?  ;D
spectra
17 parksquare 1 ayala center makati
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 18, 2004 at 03:44 PM


Grabe ang bilis naman nun...nde na yata i-naudition... ;D ;D

kaw ba sir ang lucky owner nun 8.3? hehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Oct 18, 2004 at 03:46 PM

its 9.3 medyo malaki ang size medyo alanganin pang bookshelf and floorstand

That's why it's my choice!  ;D

Pero nabili na ba ika nyo?  ???

Dapat lagi sila may demo unit - at hindi ipinagbibili.  >:(

At ipinakikinig lamang sa atin.  ;)

At ipinanggigigil lamang sa atin!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 18, 2004 at 03:56 PM
sugod na sa spectra and auditioning these new babies........
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Oct 18, 2004 at 03:59 PM
only one pair of 9.3 is available right now
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Chito C. on Oct 18, 2004 at 04:10 PM
Mga sirs,

Bili na kayo! Tapos benta nyo 8.3 sa akin.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: fierari on Oct 18, 2004 at 04:37 PM
only one pair of 9.3 is available right now

mr spectra pwede po bang pa audition ng 9.3 nyo? tnx!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 18, 2004 at 05:02 PM
Fierari,

Pwede yan look for JIm ng Spectra.. Park square 1..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bravoexo on Oct 18, 2004 at 05:20 PM
I'll pass by later...  I might graduate my 8.4s to the rear... he he he
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 18, 2004 at 05:23 PM
bravoexo,

Bro balitaan mo kami ha... review.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Oct 18, 2004 at 05:26 PM
there's also subwoofer available
sw150 - 9000
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Oct 18, 2004 at 05:50 PM
Audition muna... sayang yung 8.3 ko... iba na tumunog ito.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 18, 2004 at 05:55 PM
Ito type ko hehehehe

9.1 -
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/91.gif)

9.2
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/92.gif)


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Oct 19, 2004 at 07:51 AM
nabili na lahat  ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 19, 2004 at 08:58 AM
john,

kala ko display unit lang yun ;D bilis talaga ng mga taga pinoydvd ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 19, 2004 at 09:04 AM
nabili na lahat  ???

Nyek! Hindi man lang pina-init sa store...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 19, 2004 at 09:12 AM
di ko man lang nga narinig kahit sandali lang >:(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Oct 19, 2004 at 09:12 AM
mga sirs,

nakita ko po ito sa ecoustics forum:

http://www.iag-pro.de/d91_firsttest.gif

http://www.iag-pro.de/sw150groupwin.gif

share ko lang po.

btw, newbie po ako.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 19, 2004 at 09:21 AM
mga sirs,

nakita ko po ito sa ecoustics forum:

http://www.iag-pro.de/d91_firsttest.gif

http://www.iag-pro.de/sw150groupwin.gif

share ko lang po.

btw, newbie po ako.

hmmm.....very tempting itong mga link mo ha.... but I don't like the disadvantage of the 9.1...better yet mas maganda kung i-audition talaga at magkaroon tayo ng review.....  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: fierari on Oct 19, 2004 at 09:38 AM
sinu ba yung nag popost na spectra AV? yung chinese dun sa spectra?  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 19, 2004 at 12:56 PM
John,

Ha ubos na san mo nalaman yan sir?? bilis naman hehehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimosabe on Oct 19, 2004 at 01:42 PM
HUWAT!  :o ang bilis namang maubos papunta pa naman ako sa spectra buti nalang nakapaglog ako dito.  If ever na magka-stock ulit sana same price parin mas better if bumaba  ;)

Sa mga nakabili reviews naman para magkaalaman na kung ibebenta ko na yung 8.3 ko  ::) ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Oct 19, 2004 at 01:54 PM
just been there at spectra. they have stocks available. saw there displayed the 9.1, 9.4 and then they just opened the 9.5. kaso no time to audition them. also they have the 9.center cs displayed there. i only asked the selling price of 9.5 which is P12.5k and 9.center cs at P4.5k.

sa katabi naman sa sights & sounds, meron 9.1/9.3/9.center cs packaged for the price of P21k.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Chito C. on Oct 19, 2004 at 02:02 PM
Sights and sounds shang mall merong 9.4, 9.5 at yung center cs (all black). Mas mahal price kesa spectra.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Oct 19, 2004 at 02:04 PM
oops nakalimutan ko lang lagyan ng question mark...i was just asking kung ubos na yung diamond 9...di pa pala:) di ba magkakaroon ng 9.6  ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 19, 2004 at 02:26 PM


kaw ba sir ang lucky owner nun 8.3? hehehe

UU Sir..kabibili ko lng ng 8.3  :'(..anyway, got to hear the review first...baka naman nde masyadong malayo ang difference...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 19, 2004 at 02:38 PM
brand new ba yan sir? pano kung mas maganda yung diamond 9 hehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 19, 2004 at 02:43 PM
brand new ba yan sir? pano kung mas maganda yung diamond 9 hehehe

OO Sir Brand new.....lapit na ngang matapos yung break-in eh...

If ever na maganda yung 9..malamang ma-dedemote yung 8.3 ko from front to back...anyway, medyo malayo pa naman ang price gap nila at wala pang decent review sa mga elite people na nakabili kagad kaya okay lng.....  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 19, 2004 at 02:51 PM
brand new din pala kinuha mo, bakit? 24/7 ba naka-ON yang system mo ;D ;D ;D

Note: 4 years ang break-in period nyan :o
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 19, 2004 at 03:07 PM
brand new din pala kinuha mo, bakit? 24/7 ba naka-ON yang system mo ;D ;D ;D

Note: 4 years ang break-in period nyan :o

Kala ko kc next year pa lalabas ang Series 9...  :'(

Mga 9 hours a day po ang break-in ko, ngayon nga po ... 4 years break-in period  :o Nyahahaha..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Chito C. on Oct 19, 2004 at 03:11 PM


Kala ko kc next year pa lalabas ang Series 9... :'(

Mga 9 hours a day po ang break-in ko, ngayon nga po ... 4 years break-in period :o Nyahahaha..

Pwede ko saluhin yan.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 19, 2004 at 03:28 PM


Pwede ko saluhin yan.

hehehe.....wait lang muna ako Sir...ala pa kasing magandang review about the 9 series...  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Oct 19, 2004 at 03:36 PM
9.1-9.5, 9 center and 9 surround (not the DFS) is still available all black
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: fierari on Oct 19, 2004 at 04:59 PM
mr spectra magkano po yung 9.5?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Oct 19, 2004 at 05:07 PM
mr spectra magkano po yung 9.5?
12500
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 19, 2004 at 08:13 PM
Guys,

Got to hear this new baby 9.3 ata ( almost kasing size ng 602 S3) woofer size ata is 8" or 7" basta malaki pa sa 9.5 woofer..

initial impression hook up sa HK hmmm.. promising ito fine (vocals) mids and highs  out of the box di sya muddy tumunog tapos yun bass meron very good for a bookshelf, love the timbre of instruments like yun piano nya maganda mataba.. dapat ma break in pa para ma open up yun highs

Must audition ito.... 8) 8)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on Oct 19, 2004 at 08:58 PM
What is the difference between the tweeters of diamond 8's and diamond 9's? In terms of frequency response, material, construction, type and over all performance. Thanks for any info...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 19, 2004 at 09:19 PM
Letor,

Notice with Diamond 8, Diamond 9 and even Pacific Evo series sports a soft dome tweeter as for frequency response 20Hz lahat ata sila. ( but i maybe wrong ).. material looks the same..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Oct 20, 2004 at 06:07 AM
9.1-9.5, 9 center and 9 surround (not the DFS) is still available all black

sir kailan kaya magkakaroon ng ibang color sa center and surround?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on Oct 20, 2004 at 07:57 AM
Letor,

Notice with Diamond 8, Diamond 9 and even Pacific Evo series sports a soft dome tweeter as for frequency response 20Hz lahat ata sila. ( but i maybe wrong ).. material looks the same..

Looks like a silk dome tweeter? Is it? The diamond 9 I mean.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Oct 20, 2004 at 12:57 PM


sir kailan kaya magkakaroon ng ibang color sa center and surround?
no idea yet it still depends on the distributor
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mYKi on Oct 20, 2004 at 02:13 PM
I saw different Diamond 9 models at Sight and Sounds in Shangri-La. Bookshelves, floorstanders, and center speakers. I didn't have time to audition but it looked pretty nice. Black lang yung kulay that they have on stock.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jcob on Oct 20, 2004 at 02:59 PM
heard the 9.3 today at sights & sounds. my impression is that they have similar sound characteristics as the diamond 8's (at least when i compared it with my 8.3). though in my opinion, the 9 series has a little edge in the highs and low frequency area, this maybe because of the larger driver size (8") and the new cabinet construction. have'nt really compared the two diamonds side by side.

but i think the 9.3 is a good candidate for HT application. in terms of audio, i still prefer the AE evo or MA Bronze. I guest you will also need a powerful SS amp to move those big drivers. very low sensitivity too (86db).

this is just my opinion...cheers and have a taste of it.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 20, 2004 at 03:18 PM
Guys,

Ayan dami na pala shop available ang 9 series.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Oct 20, 2004 at 05:05 PM
Guys,

Ayan dami na pala shop available ang 9 series.. ;D ;D

ok yan sir. pero the price, pare-pareho lang kaya? ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 20, 2004 at 05:26 PM
may konting price difference lang siguro yan kasi isa lang naman ang distributor dito sa pinas.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 20, 2004 at 05:29 PM
at least marami tayong option kung san magbuy..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Oct 20, 2004 at 06:23 PM
heard the 9.3 today at sights & sounds. my impression is that they have similar sound characteristics as the diamond 8's (at least when i compared it with my 8.3). though in my opinion, the 9 series has a little edge in the highs and low frequency area, this maybe because of the larger driver size (8") and the new cabinet construction. have'nt really compared the two diamonds side by side.

but i think the 9.3 is a good candidate for HT application. in terms of audio, i still prefer the AE evo or MA Bronze. I guest you will also need a powerful SS amp to move those big drivers. very low sensitivity too (86db).

this is just my opinion...cheers and have a taste of it.

Heard it also! It sounds almost similar to 8.3, though have not been much into critical listening so ask the sales rep - the reply is that it has improved highs than 8.3. The bass, I would say is also better.

Sir, the 9.3 is 88dB sensitivity.

With my gainclone, break-in and high power is not an issue!  ;D   It will kick any speaker it can date with!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 20, 2004 at 08:41 PM
ahobbit,

When i audition the 9 i remember my Evo before it was new medyo shy yun highs nga pero labas na mids.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Oct 21, 2004 at 06:01 AM
tom is friday, cgurado ako maraming pdvd member ang nasa mga audio store kung saan may series 9, hehehehe.... kita kits tayo dun mga sir. ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ronjet on Oct 21, 2004 at 07:38 AM
hi im newbie here...i heard na it narin.i auditioned it na sa spectra last tuesday afternoon and i was told by the guy there who also post  here that dumaan na din si sir hans n frans ata..hehehe :) yung 9.3 lang ang pwede pa i audition that time kasi nasa box pa yung ka-pair nung 9.5..n parang mas ok na nga yung low niya po..n pero di ko masyado pa macompare yung high niya...

sir hans,punk,vhong,jcob,myki,letor,fierari,control n sir john....ask lang po..medyo ot ata...pwede po b icompare yang 9.3 or 9.5 to bnw 602s3???? whats the difference po kaya?? any comment?? tnx so much..ur opinion reviews will be more helpful to me po...tnx ulit in advance..pwede din po pm nalang ang sagot para di gaanong Ot... :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 21, 2004 at 11:23 AM
sir ronjet,

Wharf and B&W are diff brand syempre pati sa sound sama mo na price B&W is more expensive.. Now would like to ask what amp do you plan to pair this speakers?? coz matching is very critical so that you'll ge the sound you like and not the sound we like  ;D ;D

Any of the two maganda audition with your amp and bring the music you listen to tapos compare Wharf speaker are warm sounding while B&w are detail naman.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 21, 2004 at 12:31 PM
ronjet sir,

it would be better if you could bring (if you already have) your amp to an av store that caters for both b&w and wharfe.... let your ears decide as they always say here, cause it might be that youll like what the sound or wharfe better than the B&W, while anyone of us here might prefer B&W than wharfe, or vice versa. it all depends kasi sa taste and matching e.

good luck.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 21, 2004 at 12:34 PM
mag we-weekend na pala.....  8) given the time, i will audition the diamond 9 ;D previous reviews is making me drool already n kasi  :o ... gotta hear it fr myself!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on Oct 21, 2004 at 12:55 PM
At saka sir ronjet, pls note also that speakers may sound differently in different environments. say mas maganda ang acoustics sa show room kay sa living room nyo or vice versa so there's a tendency na ma disappoint ka or more impressed pag install mo sa bahay nyo. At least you already have the idea so ready ka na. que sera sera...   
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 21, 2004 at 01:12 PM
korek! whatever will be will be! ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 21, 2004 at 02:22 PM
let me sum this up for you sir Ronjet..Factors to consider are:
1. Budget - ingat lang kay misis..  :-X
2. Environment where you will use the speakers  ???
3. Application ( For HT ba or Audio... how many % in HT..how many percent in audio )
4. Amplifier that will drive the speakers
5. Combination - because most of the speakers require one another e.g. Wharf Fronts with wharf Centers..
6. Personal preference (This is the most important one)  - Baka kasi okay na sa amin yun pala nde ka agree.
7. Pang handa mo kapag nakabili ka na......let's celebrate...  ;D ;D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 21, 2004 at 02:41 PM
Remember that kevlar drivers are known as hard to drive speaker so you need to have a hi-current amp to power up these B&W and Diamond 9 speakers.

guys,

ako na lang ata ang hindi pa nakakarinig ng diamond 9  :( hope to hear them soon before they disappear ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 21, 2004 at 03:05 PM
Remember that kevlar drivers are known as hard to drive speaker so you need to have a hi-current amp to power up these B&W and Diamond 9 speakers.

guys,

ako na lang ata ang hindi pa nakakarinig ng diamond 9  :( hope to hear them soon before they disappear ;D ;D

KID_lat,

Kaya mo yan KID.......... bilis baka maubos ang display unit.. heheehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 21, 2004 at 03:36 PM
Remember that kevlar drivers are known as hard to drive speaker so you need to have a hi-current amp to power up these B&W and Diamond 9 speakers.

guys,

ako na lang ata ang hindi pa nakakarinig ng diamond 9  :( hope to hear them soon before they disappear ;D ;D

Sir punk...nde ka nag-iisa..  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Oct 21, 2004 at 03:40 PM
Itaguyod na naitn ang samahan ng mga hindi pa nakakapakinig ng diamond 9.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 21, 2004 at 04:07 PM
Itaguyod na naitn ang samahan ng mga hindi pa nakakapakinig ng diamond 9. ;D ;D

anong pangalan ng samahan pre? WHARF ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 21, 2004 at 04:10 PM


anong pangalan ng samahan pre? WHARF ;D

Nyahahaha...sali ako dyan....

I Vote Sir este Master Kimpao to be our President..  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 21, 2004 at 04:15 PM
Control,

ST president na yan... ( STRESS test )... hehehehe tapos DON Paldo pa..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 21, 2004 at 04:17 PM
Control,

ST president na yan... ( STRESS test )... hehehehe tapos DON Paldo pa..

Nyak! Dami na palang obligations si Master kimpao....  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ronjet on Oct 21, 2004 at 05:24 PM
mga sirs!! hehe.. :)..tnx po sa mga payo niyo ;)...sir control..hehe..buti wala pa namng misis.hehe..so wala pa as of now ng wifey factor...:D..n tungkol namn sa budget..basta hanggan 602s3 lang po..yung amp namn..wla padin but im eyeing for hk330 sana or 230 or maghanap po ng iba pang brand....and it wil be used 50-50(ht n music)....TNX SO MUCH AND TLGANG NAKAKATULONG TONG PINOYDVD FORUM! buti nalng maynakapgsabi sa akin...hehe.. sorry po sa mga mods medyo ot na...balik na po sa topic.....hehe..again tnx po mga sir. hans,control,punk,kimpao,wanderlust,letor, :)....

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 21, 2004 at 05:31 PM
At your service kami Bro ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Oct 21, 2004 at 05:51 PM
mga sirs!! hehe.. :)..tnx po sa mga payo niyo ;)...sir control..hehe..buti wala pa namng misis.hehe..so wala pa as of now ng wifey factor...:D..n tungkol namn sa budget..basta hanggan 602s3 lang po..yung amp namn..wla padin but im eyeing for hk330 sana or 230 or maghanap po ng iba pang brand....and it wil be used 50-50(ht n music)....TNX SO MUCH AND TLGANG NAKAKATULONG TONG PINOYDVD FORUM! buti nalng maynakapgsabi sa akin...hehe.. sorry po sa mga mods medyo ot na...balik na po sa topic.....hehe..again tnx po mga sir. hans,control,punk,kimpao,wanderlust,letor, :)....



salamat ronjet sa iyong pagtitiwala sa amin. sana ngawa ay nakatulong kami sa iyo at di naman kami magsasawa na tumulong sa mga bago na katulad mo. :D  huwag ka lang magdidikit sa amin dahil tiyak SARS ang aabutin mo.  ;D  joke lang. ;D 

personally, i'd go for the wharf/HK combi. subok na ito sir. ;D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 21, 2004 at 06:04 PM
ronjet,

HK/Wharf
HK/B&W
HK/MA
HK/AE
HK/MIssion

Lahat ata pwede sa HK.. hehehehe ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 21, 2004 at 06:08 PM
Ayan sir! pwede mo ng ma-audition yang HK/Wharf combo, basta si master magrecomenda siguradong SARS........... este PANALO ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 21, 2004 at 06:10 PM
Mr. Endorser,

Baka lalong magulo si sir ronjet sa dami ng choices na binigay mo ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ronjet on Oct 21, 2004 at 06:13 PM
sir kimpao...subok na ba yung wharf/hk combi..hehe...kailiangan ko cguro bumalik sa spectra n try ko ulit....bka may mga higher model na ready for audition na :)....bkit pala sars aabutin..hahaha....

sir hans...hmmm..lahat pala pwede..hehe...tnx..had u try to audition na b yung 9.5???

OT:..mukhang napapaisip ako sa wharf. ngayon namn may sars pa?? hehe..bkit kaya napasok yang sars na yan.. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 21, 2004 at 06:18 PM
malalaman mo din ang SARS pag may system ka na sir ;D try to audition that combo baka magustuhan mo. Good luck sir, balitaan mo kami ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Oct 21, 2004 at 06:22 PM
SARS, sigurado yan sir lalo na single ka. nakows!!!!...... baka mag-tube amp ka niyan pag di naka-tiis sa audio. Alalahanin, maganda rin and diamond sa PP Tube amps.  >:D ;D ;D


Budget level
HK/Wharfs - Budget setup for 50/50 HT and Audio
Yamaha/Wharfs - Mas budget setup kaso 70/30 HT and Audio


Medyo napamahal lang ng konti pero mga all rounder naman  ;D
HK/B&W
HK/MA
HK/AE
HK/MIssion
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ronjet on Oct 21, 2004 at 06:27 PM
sir punkkid....cge try ko audition din..si sir hans ata madalas dun e..hehehe...

sir kimpao...mukhang ayos din yang mga binigay mo..hehe...try ko yung hk/wharfs..nung naaudition ko yung 9.3(similar size sa 602s3) parang ok na rin.. :)....haha..gusto ko din sana 602s3..hmm...parang nakakaintriga yang SARS niyo ha...hehe..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 21, 2004 at 06:32 PM
sir kimpao...subok na ba yung wharf/hk combi..hehe...kailiangan ko cguro bumalik sa spectra n try ko ulit....bka may mga higher model na ready for audition na :)....bkit pala sars aabutin..hahaha....


Wharf speaker are power hungry (like Sonus, Dynaudience etc) so to be there best sound dapat may power or High current yun amp. HK are high current amp usually they provide minimun wattage sa spec pero when you listen to them eh mas malakas pa yun 85watts sa 100watts ng ibang brand.. and maganda headroom ng HK kaya you'll notice fuller and warmer ang sound..


sir hans...hmmm..lahat pala pwede..hehe...tnx..had u try to audition na b yung 9.5???


Di ko pa na audition ang Diamond 9.5 only 9.3 lang driven by HK AVR.. btw I owned a Wharf speaker.. ;D ;D ;D


SARS... malalaman mo rin yan... ;D ;D ;D


Happy hunting and auditioning...  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Oct 21, 2004 at 06:36 PM
sir punkkid....cge try ko audition din..si sir hans ata madalas dun e..hehehe...

sir kimpao...mukhang ayos din yang mga binigay mo..hehe...try ko yung hk/wharfs..nung naaudition ko yung 9.3(similar size sa 602s3) parang ok na rin.. :)....haha..gusto ko din sana 602s3..hmm...parang nakakaintriga yang SARS niyo ha...hehe..

Sir, yung na audition mo sigurado di pa broken-in kaya siguro parang ok na rin. kung bitin ka sa bass better audition the 9.5. balita ko meron daw sa park square 1 (alin shops kaya). Kung meron 9.4, audition mo rin. Sir wag ka mahiya dun sa mga shops dahil pera mo naman ang pambibili mo dun eh, diba.

SARS, naku po! :o  Huwag kang maintriga, sir at baka magsisi ka.  ;D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 21, 2004 at 06:39 PM


Sir, yung na audition mo sigurado di pa broken-in kaya siguro parang ok na rin. kung bitin ka sa bass better audition the 9.5. balita ko meron daw sa park square 1 (alin shops kaya). Kung meron 9.4, audition mo rin. Sir wag ka mahiya dun sa mga shops dahil pera mo naman ang pambibili mo dun eh, diba.

SARS, naku po! :o  Huwag kang maintriga, sir at baka magsisi ka.  ;D




Don Kimpao,

Di pa break in yun 9.3 ng spectra na audition ko yun eh..  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Oct 21, 2004 at 06:43 PM



Don Kimpao,

Di pa break in yun 9.3 ng spectra na audition ko yun eh..  :)

Koya,

may 9.4 o 9.5 ka bang nasilip dun. tinitingnan ko specs dun sa site ng wharf.  OK naman at promising, pwede pang ht upgrade. ahehehehehe  >:D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ronjet on Oct 21, 2004 at 06:46 PM
tnx sir hans...il try to visit again spectra...also...ill wait for your reviews about those model of the diamond 9 series..hehe :)....

sir kimpao aka Don Kimpao as what sir hans says..hehe..yung 9.3 e..sa akin ok namn yung low niya...parang konti nalng...yung high namn..for me..yun yung parang kulang..konti lang namn...mid is ok lang din :)...yup may 9.4 n 9.5 sila sir kimpao...yun nga lang nung pumunta ako...1pc pa lang nakalabas sa kahon..hehe..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 21, 2004 at 06:49 PM


Koya,

may 9.4 o 9.5 ka bang nasilip dun. tinitingnan ko specs dun sa site ng wharf. OK naman at promising, pwede pang ht upgrade. ahehehehehe >:D ;D ;D

Positive Senor.. ;D ;D yun 9.5 naka display while the 9.4 is in the box pa.. wala 9.6.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 22, 2004 at 06:40 AM
Napapakiramdaman ko na ang SARS...malamang Next Year mas marami na ang infected ng Series 9 na wharfes...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Oct 22, 2004 at 08:28 AM
i've been there yesterday at spectra around 7:30pm and naka-play ang 9.3 connected to an hk 130. my overall impression is ok sya though parang bitin ng konti yung treble and bass (sorry if my terms are wrong, i'm just starting on this hobby  :)) pero like someone posted here na di pa nabi-breakin kasi.

gusto ko sana talaga marinig ang 9.5, nag offer na nga dun yung isang tauhan (hindi si jim) sa spectra na ilalabas nya nya yung 9.5 para ma-audition ko. kaso my mahiyain in nature got the better of me (hassle kasi na buksan pa nila yung box plus hindi magaan ang 9.5 ha) so i told him na next time na lang pag talagang bibili na ako.

the chinese guy (anak ata ng may-ari) showed me the diamond 9.sr (surround speakers), medyo naliitan ako (actually maliit talaga siya) so i think hindi sya maganda gamitin if you're into sacd/dvd-a surround playing. he also informed me to inquire from time to time for the availability of the 9.6 (my first preference  ;D) starting today. sana dumating na!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 22, 2004 at 08:30 AM
i've been there yesterday at spectra around 7:30pm and naka-play ang 9.3 connected to an hk 130. my overall impression is ok sya though parang bitin ng konti yung treble and bass (sorry if my terms are wrong, i'm just starting on this hobby  :)) pero like someone posted here na di pa nabi-breakin kasi.

gusto ko sana talaga marinig ang 9.5, nag offer na nga dun yung isang tauhan (hindi si jim) sa spectra na ilalabas nya nya yung 9.5 para ma-audition ko. kaso my mahiyain in nature got the better of me (hassle kasi na buksan pa nila yung box plus hindi magaan ang 9.5 ha) so i told him na next time na lang pag talagang bibili na ako.

the chinese guy (anak ata ng may-ari) showed me the diamond 9.sr (surround speakers), medyo naliitan ako (actually maliit talaga siya) so i think hindi sya maganda gamitin if you're into sacd/dvd-a surround playing. he also informed me to inquire from time to time for the availability of the 9.6 (my first preference  ;D) starting today. sana dumating na!

Nyahahah..akala ko ako lang ang naghihintay ng 9.6 ikaw rin pala...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: losi_phile on Oct 22, 2004 at 09:11 AM


Nyahahah..akala ko ako lang ang naghihintay ng 9.6 ikaw rin pala... ;D

Ako rin...hunting for that 9.6. 

Been to Sights and Sounds sa Shangrila last night and was able to audition 9.1.  To my ears, mas maganda siyang tumunog kaysa 8.1.  Mas litaw ung bass niya na medyo kulang naman sa 8.1.  Mas maganda rin looks niya with the black kevlars kahit alisin mo yung cover nya, ganda pa rin. Pero ang price niya is Php6+.  Nakita ko rin 9.4 and 9.5 pero medyo nahiya na akong pa-audition, try ko audition mamayang lunch time.  The 9.4 is slightly smaller than the 8.3 and the 9.5 is slightly taller than 8.3 but rear ported siya which, in my opinion, medyo mapili sa set-up.

For people like me, control and chastix,  we'll have to prepare for something like 15k >:( - 18k >:( for that big 9.6.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 22, 2004 at 09:20 AM


Ako rin...hunting for that 9.6. 

Been to Sights and Sounds sa Shangrila last night and was able to audition 9.1.  To my ears, mas maganda siyang tumunog kaysa 8.1.  Mas litaw ung bass niya na medyo kulang naman sa 8.1.  Mas maganda rin looks niya with the black kevlars kahit alisin mo yung cover nya, ganda pa rin. Pero ang price niya is Php6+.  Nakita ko rin 9.4 and 9.5 pero medyo nahiya na akong pa-audition, try ko audition mamayang lunch time.  The 9.4 is slightly smaller than the 8.3 and the 9.5 is slightly taller than 8.3 but rear ported siya which, in my opinion, medyo mapili sa set-up.

For people like me, control and chastix,  we'll have to prepare for something like 15k >:( - 18k >:( for that big 9.6.

hehehe...yari na naman ang Christmass bonus ko nito...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 22, 2004 at 09:38 AM
Guys,

how about the grill? plastic pa rin ba? im eyeing on the 9.4 kaya lang mahirap atang ma audition yun ng naka box ;D ;D ;D

losi_phile,

Give us your feedback later on the 9.4 and 9.5 >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Oct 22, 2004 at 10:12 AM
i'm also waiting for the 9.6, hope its a price beater, and a good candidate for an audio setup ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Oct 22, 2004 at 11:33 AM
yup, plastic pa rin pero a very big improvement kesa grills ng series 8. stud-type (tama ba term ko) ang sa series 9 unlike dun sa series 8 na parang clip-type. and the material used is much sturdy. ok na sya. plus pag kinatok mo yung kahoy (the speaker housing) mas solid ng konti  :)


Guys,

how about the grill? plastic pa rin ba? im eyeing on the 9.4 kaya lang mahirap atang ma audition yun ng naka box ;D ;D ;D

losi_phile,

Give us your feedback later on the 9.4 and 9.5 >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 22, 2004 at 11:44 AM
chatstix,

Uy! ok yan medyo solid pala enclosure, i bet mas maganda to sa 8 series ;D ;D kasi 9 series na mwehehehe must heard pala talaga to >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: fierari on Oct 22, 2004 at 01:44 PM
hanep 8 incher pala 9.3 ang laki pala nun.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 25, 2004 at 07:48 AM
Dami pala nagaabang sa 9.6.. mahal yun di kaya ng budget.. bookshelf and center lang ako hehehhee..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: juneaki on Oct 25, 2004 at 08:20 AM
Mga sirs, may nakapag-audition na po ba sa inyo nung 9.3? Is it good compared to your present setup? Magkano po ba ang 9.3?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 25, 2004 at 09:36 AM
Mga sirs, may nakapag-audition na po ba sa inyo nung 9.3? Is it good compared to your present setup? Magkano po ba ang 9.3?

Center - P4,500
Surround RS - P3,800
9.1 - P5,500
9.2 - P7,000
9.3 - P8,200
9.4 - P9,700
9.5 - P12,500
9.6 - Wala pa

Galing sa Spectra
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Oct 25, 2004 at 10:37 AM


Center - P4,500
Surround RS - P3,800
9.1 - P5,500
9.2 - P7,000
9.3 - P8,200
9.4 - P9,700
9.5 - P12,500
9.6 - Wala pa

Galing sa Spectra

sir ano yung center na yan cc, cs or cm?

pogi ng diamonds. mas maganda sa personal.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 25, 2004 at 10:48 AM


sir ano yung center na yan cc, cs or cm?

pogi ng diamonds. mas maganda sa personal.



Actually hindi ko rin alam..  ;D Kinopya ko lang yang dun sa mga naunang posts...But if you want to inquire you can contact Sir Jim of Spectra 8185493  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Oct 25, 2004 at 12:06 PM


sir ano yung center na yan cc, cs or cm?

pogi ng diamonds. mas maganda sa personal.



the center is CS, saw it last friday, bigger than CC, smaller than CM.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 25, 2004 at 12:20 PM


the center is CS, saw it last friday, bigger than CC, smaller than CM.

Sir Vhong...any reviews? Nakapag-audition ka ba last weekend?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 25, 2004 at 12:37 PM
guys,

YUn Diamond 9.1 Product of the Year 2004 of What Hifi. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Oct 25, 2004 at 04:16 PM


Sir Vhong...any reviews? Nakapag-audition ka ba last weekend?

tinignan ko lang, no time eh! may kasama kasi ako. hehehehe... pero gwapo talaga sya sa personal, sana ganun din ang performance.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 26, 2004 at 06:53 AM
guys,

YUn Diamond 9.1 Product of the Year 2004 of What Hifi. ;D ;D

Master Hans musta na yung 9c mo? Mas oks ba sya kaysa 8c? Review naman dyan...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mYKi on Oct 26, 2004 at 07:06 AM
hans,

What issue is this? Lumabas na ba yung 2004 awards?

Myki

guys,

YUn Diamond 9.1 Product of the Year 2004 of What Hifi. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 26, 2004 at 08:57 AM
Koya,

may tinatago ka palang 9c dyan ha....... bad boy ka! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: odyopayl on Oct 26, 2004 at 09:19 AM
Anybody tried 9.1?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 26, 2004 at 01:36 PM
hans,

What issue is this? Lumabas na ba yung 2004 awards?

Myki


Bro just saw this sa site ng Wharf mismo..

http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/



Master Hans musta na yung 9c mo? Mas oks ba sya kaysa 8c? Review naman dyan... ;D

Bro di pa ako nakabili... wala pa moolah... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 26, 2004 at 01:53 PM

Bro di pa ako nakabili... wala pa moolah... ;D

Nyeheheh...Si Master Kimpao kaya?  ;D  Kayang kaya nya yun...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Oct 26, 2004 at 01:55 PM


Nyeheheh...Si Master Kimpao kaya?  ;D  Kayang kaya nya yun...

Sir wag po guluhin ang akin matagal ng magulong isipan.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 26, 2004 at 02:03 PM


Sir wag po guluhin ang akin matagal ng magulong isipan.  ;D ;D

 ;D ;D Mukhang may mas matindi pang niluluto si Master kimpao aside sa wharf 9...  :-X
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: garee on Oct 26, 2004 at 02:34 PM
available po rin ba kaya dito ang package na ito?

(http://img91.exs.cx/img91/2019/diamond-9.jpg)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Oct 26, 2004 at 02:48 PM
bro how much yung package?  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: garee on Oct 26, 2004 at 02:54 PM
bro how much yung package?  ;)

nakita ko lang po yan sa brochure.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 26, 2004 at 03:15 PM


nakita ko lang po yan sa brochure.

Brochure ng? sowee ha..bitin kasi eh..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 26, 2004 at 03:26 PM


Brochure ng? sowee ha..bitin kasi eh..

Alam ko na...dun sa brochure ng wharfe 9.....hehehe...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Oct 26, 2004 at 03:28 PM


Brochure ng? sowee ha..bitin kasi eh..

Di pwedeng field reporter!  ;D

Kulang-kulang ang detalye, este, installment pala!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 26, 2004 at 03:30 PM


Di pwedeng field reporter! ;D

Kulang-kulang ang detalye, este, installment pala! ;D

Hahahahaha dami talaga nagaabang ng report sa Diamond 9.. Bili na kasi sir..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 26, 2004 at 03:36 PM


Hahahahaha dami talaga nagaabang ng report sa Diamond 9.. Bili na kasi sir..

heheh..pangunahan mo na Master Hans...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: garee on Oct 26, 2004 at 03:37 PM
brochure ng wharfdale po syempre. anong thread ba ito?...aiwa? hehehe j/k

just call spectra and said they have the package for P17,500.00
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dvh on Oct 26, 2004 at 03:57 PM
guys,

meron ba sa inyo kenwood avr and wharf9.1 setup?  ok ba ang compatibility?

thanks
dvh
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: garee on Oct 26, 2004 at 04:06 PM
product description/specifications of the package  ;D

(http://img38.exs.cx/img38/9388/diamond-9pix.jpg)

mukhang interesting hehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Oct 26, 2004 at 05:05 PM
brochure ng wharfdale po syempre. anong thread ba ito?...aiwa? hehehe j/k

just call spectra and said they have the package for P17,500.00
there's one set available sa spectra but its still in the box unopened
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: PLiSKiN on Oct 27, 2004 at 07:57 AM
hi... just wanna ask if the the 9series is still compatible with hk receivers??? & is it still advisable to buy the 8series or ill just go with the new one... dati kc naka set n ung mind ko n 8.3, 8.1 & 8c ung kukunin ko kc nga most recommended & testetd n ung ganong set-up, kaso ngayon may 9 series n. anong kukunin ko ??? ??? need ur opinions guys... tia!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 27, 2004 at 08:14 AM
hi... just wanna ask if the the 9series is still compatible with hk receivers??? & is it still advisable to buy the 8series or ill just go with the new one... dati kc naka set n ung mind ko n 8.3, 8.1 & 8c ung kukunin ko kc nga most recommended & testetd n ung ganong set-up, kaso ngayon may 9 series n. anong kukunin ko ??? ??? need ur opinions guys... tia!!!

Medyo mahirap pang magsabi kung okay nga ang 9 series with hk....but if you will browse 1-2 pages back sa forum na ito you will see that Master Kimpao and Master Hans would say na ok ang hk sa wharf...My point is that wala pang nagkaroon ng decent wharfe 9 series setup with any receivers dahil kalalabas pa lang..  ;) kaya medyo mahirap pang magsabi kung okay talaga silang combo....I would also think about the price range...lalo na yung sa mga floorstanders medyo malayo ang price gap...but that is in relation to their respective features kaya medyo mas mahal na siya......bottom line....audition first......kung saan ka masaya at kaya ng breads mo...dun ka...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 27, 2004 at 08:54 AM
Pliskin,

Tama si control, bagong labas pa lang itong mga 9 series pero im sure bagay ito sa HK receivers. Kung gusto mo ng talagang mag setup, you can browse at the buy n sell section meron mga affordable gears dun tsaka ka na mag upgrade to 9 series pag may mga good reviews na 8)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 27, 2004 at 11:11 AM
or better still, audition it...... try it out and if you like go for it.

much better if they will allow you to home audition it, so that youll know how it will actually perform at home or hwere youll be placing it in.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Chito C. on Oct 27, 2004 at 11:18 AM
WALA PA BANG REVIEWS?

PARANG WAITING LANG LAHAT SA 13TH MONTH.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Oct 27, 2004 at 11:29 AM
baka bumili ako mamaya ng 9.1. eto na muna siguro ang simula since di pa available ang 9.6 at 5k lang ang binigay ni esmi...hehehehe

present setup ko ngayon is 8.4, diamond center sa harap at 8.2 ang rears. HK230 ang avr.

compare ko ang 9.1 at 8.2. post ko bukas ang findings.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Oct 27, 2004 at 11:30 AM
Seems everyone wants it safe.  Am I right to say there's no PinoyDVD member who owns a diamond 9 yet? (Except chatstix above you will yet buy one)  Di sapat na 2004 Product of the Year siya by What Hi-Fi.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 27, 2004 at 11:35 AM
Seems everyone wants it safe.  Am I right to say there's no PinoyDVD member who owns a diamond 9 yet? (Except chatstix above you will yet buy one)  Di sapat na 2004 Product of the Year siya by What Hi-Fi.  ;D

Hehehe...Sir AV maybe it's because its difficult to spend a hard earned money..Kaya lahat abang muna...  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Oct 27, 2004 at 11:41 AM
Seems everyone wants it safe.  Am I right to say there's no PinoyDVD member who owns a diamond 9 yet? (Except chatstix above you will yet buy one)  Di sapat na 2004 Product of the Year siya by What Hi-Fi.  ;D

exactly my reason why i'm gonna start with the 9.1 coz it was awarded 2004 Product of the Year by What Hi-Fi mag.  :)

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 27, 2004 at 11:44 AM
Uy! may matapang na mama na bibili ng 9.1 ;D Congrats in Advance Chatstix!

Post mo agad reviews, siguradong may mga susunuran na nyan >:D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 27, 2004 at 12:15 PM
sir chat.... good luck! review agad ha. you might be opening the pandoras  box in pdvd...... sunodsunod na to! :o >:D

SARS here it comes! ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 27, 2004 at 12:19 PM
sir chat.... good luck! review agad ha. you might be opening the pandoras  box in pdvd...... sunodsunod na to! :o >:D

SARS here it comes! ;D

hehehe...dami rin nag-aantay ng review...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 27, 2004 at 12:39 PM
isa ka na ata don pre e.... kaw kasi nagmadaling kumuha ng 8 series.....  d sana ikaw yong magbibigay ng review ngayon!

 ;D ahahaha.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Oct 27, 2004 at 01:20 PM
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Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 27, 2004 at 02:18 PM
isa ka na ata don pre e.... kaw kasi nagmadaling kumuha ng 8 series.....  d sana ikaw yong magbibigay ng review ngayon!

 ;D ahahaha.

Hehehe....okay lang yun pre...i-demote ko na lang sa sala yung 8 kasama nung samsung na useless..  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 27, 2004 at 02:53 PM
OT sir control, may samsung bang useless? ??? ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 27, 2004 at 03:01 PM
OT sir control, may samsung bang useless? ??? ;D

Hehehe.. OT nga pero...yung DVD Player ko kasi DVD-E318 ayaw mag-play ng Region 1 na DVD. Nde ko tuloy mapanuod yung mga padala sa akin mga DVDs ng cousin ko. At ala rin akong makitang code sa Net...hay useless talaga... >:(

Sorry ulit sa OT...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 27, 2004 at 03:09 PM
useless nga yan ;D baka meron ditong marunong mag-ayos nyan try mo.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 27, 2004 at 03:23 PM
useless nga yan ;D baka meron ditong marunong mag-ayos nyan try mo.

hehehe..yup nag-iwan na ako ng post yun sa branded dvd players..anywayz pag nag-mura na yung series 9 malamang makasama nitong samsung yung mga wharfs 8 ko... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 27, 2004 at 03:27 PM
wag mo na kasing hintayin ang reviews.... bili na! >:D >:D kaw din baka maubusan ka ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 27, 2004 at 03:39 PM
wag mo na kasing hintayin ang reviews.... bili na! >:D >:D kaw din baka maubusan ka ;D

heheh..nde pa kaya koya... unti pa ang breads para sa 9..  ;D..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: PLiSKiN on Oct 27, 2004 at 04:02 PM
baka bumili ako mamaya ng 9.1. eto na muna siguro ang simula since di pa available ang 9.6 at 5k lang ang binigay ni esmi...hehehehe

present setup ko ngayon is 8.4, diamond center sa harap at 8.2 ang rears. HK230 ang avr.

compare ko ang 9.1 at 8.2. post ko bukas ang findings.
cge sir hntayin nmin bukas review mo sir... parang gusto ko na rin kc bumili  ;D buti n lng nde ako nkbili kahapon (nde ko kc na-audition e) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 27, 2004 at 04:32 PM
Quote from: Pliskin on Today at 04:02:28pm
cge sir hntayin nmin bukas review mo sir... parang gusto ko na rin kc bumili   buti n lng nde ako nkbili kahapon (nde ko kc na-audition e)

Product of the Year yan sir kaya bili bili na! >:D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Oct 27, 2004 at 05:29 PM
Tsk............. Dami pa kwentuhan, Bili na kasi at para mapakinggan na yan sa session.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 27, 2004 at 09:11 PM
Tsk............. Dami pa kwentuhan, Bili na kasi at para mapakinggan na yan sa session.  ;D ;D ;D

heheh...ayan nagalit na si Master kimpao  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Oct 27, 2004 at 09:31 PM
sama ako sa session ha! hehehe ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Oct 28, 2004 at 12:15 AM
went to spectra this evening (around 7:15pm), and luckily patapos na yung bumibili ng subwoofer when i got there. nakadisplay na (out of the box) yung 9.1, 9.3, and 9.5. so i told jim and jose that i would like to audition the 9.1 and if possible also the 9.5.

jose was the one who assisted me since jim is busy attending to the payment of the customer who bought d subwoofer.

please be aware that this mini-review is subjective (what i consider good might be bad to some and vice versa). moreover, i'm not one of those lucky ones who's gifted with a "golden" audiophile ear.

9.1 vs. 8.1: hooked up to an hk130 avr with setting surround off (sound output is only on the left and right speakers), test  cd is the audiophile voices 2 (fortunately i also have this cd at home). mas ok ang labas ng music, mas swabe at mas clear ang dating on the 9.1 as against the 8.1. Napansin ko lang na medyo malakas ang treble sa 8.1, although i like the treble on the 9.1 kasi tamang tama lang at natural ang dating. mas refined at solid ang bass output sa 9.1 too. pasensiya na at di ko alam talaga mga audiophile terms with regards to evaluating speaker sound production. sa limang kanta on the voice 2 cd, the 9.1 comes out the winner for me.

9.5: dito ako na-impress talaga. when i heard this speaker perform i have decided not to wait for the 9.6 anymore. di pa siya broken in, pero hanep ang tunog. i have decided not to wait for the 9.6 coz i think overkill na masyado kasi sa bedroom lang naman ang setup ko. i really can't elaborate further, basta ang bottomline: for a P12,500 speaker, sulit na sulit ito.

Sorry talaga mga pare ko if medyo malabo ang review ko ha. To conclude, 9.1 is better than 8.1 (for me) and 9.5 is impressive. So kayo na bahala manghula kung anong speaker ang binili ko  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Oct 28, 2004 at 01:36 AM
Sorry talaga mga pare ko if medyo malabo ang review ko ha. To conclude, 9.1 is better than 8.1 (for me) and 9.5 is impressive. So kayo na bahala manghula kung anong speaker ang binili ko  ;D

pareho.  :o ;D ;D ;D ahehehehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Oct 28, 2004 at 06:17 AM
went to spectra this evening (around 7:15pm), and luckily patapos na yung bumibili ng subwoofer when i got there. nakadisplay na (out of the box) yung 9.1, 9.3, and 9.5. so i told jim and jose that i would like to audition the 9.1 and if possible also the 9.5.

jose was the one who assisted me since jim is busy attending to the payment of the customer who bought d subwoofer.

please be aware that this mini-review is subjective (what i consider good might be bad to some and vice versa). moreover, i'm not one of those lucky ones who's gifted with a "golden" audiophile ear.

9.1 vs. 8.1: hooked up to an hk130 avr with setting surround off (sound output is only on the left and right speakers), test  cd is the audiophile voices 2 (fortunately i also have this cd at home). mas ok ang labas ng music, mas swabe at mas clear ang dating on the 9.1 as against the 8.1. Napansin ko lang na medyo malakas ang treble sa 8.1, although i like the treble on the 9.1 kasi tamang tama lang at natural ang dating. mas refined at solid ang bass output sa 9.1 too. pasensiya na at di ko alam talaga mga audiophile terms with regards to evaluating speaker sound production. sa limang kanta on the voice 2 cd, the 9.1 comes out the winner for me.

9.5: dito ako na-impress talaga. when i heard this speaker perform i have decided not to wait for the 9.6 anymore. di pa siya broken in, pero hanep ang tunog. i have decided not to wait for the 9.6 coz i think overkill na masyado kasi sa bedroom lang naman ang setup ko. i really can't elaborate further, basta ang bottomline: for a P12,500 speaker, sulit na sulit ito.

Sorry talaga mga pare ko if medyo malabo ang review ko ha. To conclude, 9.1 is better than 8.1 (for me) and 9.5 is impressive. So kayo na bahala manghula kung anong speaker ang binili ko  ;D

nice review sir ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ronjet on Oct 28, 2004 at 07:47 AM
sir reviews po sa 9.5 pa...ehehe...kung sino pa ppo mga bibili........ :)

mga sirs..hehe..sir kimpao..sir hans...sir control..sir vhong..sir punk..sir chat...sir cire...hehe....parang alam ko na yang sars na yan..hehe..newbie pa lang po ako sir...sana di ko makuha yang sars..hehe..mahirap pala magkaron niyan... ;)

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 28, 2004 at 07:57 AM
went to spectra this evening (around 7:15pm), and luckily patapos na yung bumibili ng subwoofer when i got there. nakadisplay na (out of the box) yung 9.1, 9.3, and 9.5. so i told jim and jose that i would like to audition the 9.1 and if possible also the 9.5.

jose was the one who assisted me since jim is busy attending to the payment of the customer who bought d subwoofer.

please be aware that this mini-review is subjective (what i consider good might be bad to some and vice versa). moreover, i'm not one of those lucky ones who's gifted with a "golden" audiophile ear.

9.1 vs. 8.1: hooked up to an hk130 avr with setting surround off (sound output is only on the left and right speakers), test  cd is the audiophile voices 2 (fortunately i also have this cd at home). mas ok ang labas ng music, mas swabe at mas clear ang dating on the 9.1 as against the 8.1. Napansin ko lang na medyo malakas ang treble sa 8.1, although i like the treble on the 9.1 kasi tamang tama lang at natural ang dating. mas refined at solid ang bass output sa 9.1 too. pasensiya na at di ko alam talaga mga audiophile terms with regards to evaluating speaker sound production. sa limang kanta on the voice 2 cd, the 9.1 comes out the winner for me.

9.5: dito ako na-impress talaga. when i heard this speaker perform i have decided not to wait for the 9.6 anymore. di pa siya broken in, pero hanep ang tunog. i have decided not to wait for the 9.6 coz i think overkill na masyado kasi sa bedroom lang naman ang setup ko. i really can't elaborate further, basta ang bottomline: for a P12,500 speaker, sulit na sulit ito.

Sorry talaga mga pare ko if medyo malabo ang review ko ha. To conclude, 9.1 is better than 8.1 (for me) and 9.5 is impressive. So kayo na bahala manghula kung anong speaker ang binili ko  ;D

Hay sa wakas may nag-post na rin ng review.... sana may mag-post din ng review about 9.6 vs. 9.5..  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 28, 2004 at 07:59 AM
sir reviews po sa 9.5 pa...ehehe...kung sino pa ppo mga bibili........ :)

mga sirs..hehe..sir kimpao..sir hans...sir control..sir vhong..sir punk..sir chat...sir cire...hehe....parang alam ko na yang sars na yan..hehe..newbie pa lang po ako sir...sana di ko makuha yang sars..hehe..mahirap pala magkaron niyan... ;)



Nakow Sir..hirap umiwas dyan lalo na ngayong panahon ng 13month..nyahahaha...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: PLiSKiN on Oct 28, 2004 at 08:55 AM
Quote
went to spectra this evening (around 7:15pm), and luckily patapos na yung bumibili ng subwoofer when i got there. nakadisplay na (out of the box) yung 9.1, 9.3, and 9.5. so i told jim and jose that i would like to audition the 9.1 and if possible also the 9.5.

jose was the one who assisted me since jim is busy attending to the payment of the customer who bought d subwoofer.

please be aware that this mini-review is subjective (what i consider good might be bad to some and vice versa). moreover, i'm not one of those lucky ones who's gifted with a "golden" audiophile ear.

9.1 vs. 8.1: hooked up to an hk130 avr with setting surround off (sound output is only on the left and right speakers), test  cd is the audiophile voices 2 (fortunately i also have this cd at home). mas ok ang labas ng music, mas swabe at mas clear ang dating on the 9.1 as against the 8.1. Napansin ko lang na medyo malakas ang treble sa 8.1, although i like the treble on the 9.1 kasi tamang tama lang at natural ang dating. mas refined at solid ang bass output sa 9.1 too. pasensiya na at di ko alam talaga mga audiophile terms with regards to evaluating speaker sound production. sa limang kanta on the voice 2 cd, the 9.1 comes out the winner for me.

9.5: dito ako na-impress talaga. when i heard this speaker perform i have decided not to wait for the 9.6 anymore. di pa siya broken in, pero hanep ang tunog. i have decided not to wait for the 9.6 coz i think overkill na masyado kasi sa bedroom lang naman ang setup ko. i really can't elaborate further, basta ang bottomline: for a P12,500 speaker, sulit na sulit ito.

Sorry talaga mga pare ko if medyo malabo ang review ko ha. To conclude, 9.1 is better than 8.1 (for me) and 9.5 is impressive. So kayo na bahala manghula kung anong speaker ang binili ko
tnx sa review sir!!! may nkita po b kyong 9.4 n nklabas. ung pumunta kc ako 9.3 lng ung nklabas na pede i-audition tpos walang pang mag-sesetup kaya nde ko rin na-audition :'( ... to all gurus out there... pareho lng po b preformance ng 9.1 & 9.4 since pareho lng sila ng specs??? tia po ulit  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 28, 2004 at 08:55 AM
Hay naku! kung maghihintayan kayo ng magagandang reviews dito baka Diamond 10 na nakadisplay sa Spectra nyan ;D ;D ;D it is better to audition the gears than to wait for good reviews.... kayo ang makikinig nyan hindi ang nag rereview Hahahaha! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 28, 2004 at 08:59 AM
bossing,

magkaiba ang tunog ng bookshelf kaysa sa floorstander, mas malakas ang bass ng floorstander
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Oct 28, 2004 at 09:43 AM
Hay naku! kung maghihintayan kayo ng magagandang reviews dito baka Diamond 10 na nakadisplay sa Spectra nyan ;D ;D ;D it is better to audition the gears than to wait for good reviews.... kayo ang makikinig nyan hindi ang nag rereview Hahahaha! ;D ;D

korekek! kasama naman sa trabaho nila para makabenta ang pag entertain sa customer na gusto magpa audition. tandaan nyo, pera nyo yang gagastusin nyo at kayo ang makikinig... kaya huwag mahiya magpa-audition. i remembered when i was auditioning for an hk unit, kinuha pa nila sa stockroom ang 8.4 kasi yun ang speakers ko. naka staple pa yung box. wala akong pambili that time, pero wala naman akong naging problema nung nagpa audition ako. di naman ako na-pressure nila to buy it. so far the best mag audition sa spectra at sights & sounds. kaya punta na kayo at mag audition dun, then post nyo ang assessment nyo dito.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: PLiSKiN on Oct 28, 2004 at 09:46 AM
Quote
bossing,

magkaiba ang tunog ng bookshelf kaysa sa floorstander, mas malakas ang bass ng floorstander
tnx! sir pero un lng b ang difference nila?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 28, 2004 at 10:08 AM

 tnx! sir pero un lng b ang difference nila?

pati price syempre..  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Oct 28, 2004 at 10:10 AM
Hay naku! kung maghihintayan kayo ng magagandang reviews dito baka Diamond 10 na nakadisplay sa Spectra nyan ;D ;D ;D it is better to audition the gears than to wait for good reviews.... kayo ang makikinig nyan hindi ang nag rereview Hahahaha! ;D ;D

tama ka sir! baka nga hanggang 15 umabot tayo dito eh ;D sir chatstix congrats on your new speaker..sana marinig din namin..hehehe...hula ko pareho nyo binili...hehehehe ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mYKi on Oct 28, 2004 at 10:39 AM
I will audition the 9.1's with a friend later during lunch break.  I can't wait!

Anyway, you might want to check out a review of the 9.1 here

http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=29993.0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 28, 2004 at 11:04 AM
pliskin,

with the same brand of speakers, siguro bass lang nagkaiba. pero if you will compare it with other brands ibang usapan na yan sir there will definitely have  sonic difference. ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 28, 2004 at 11:18 AM
pliskin,

with the same brand of speakers, siguro bass lang nagkaiba. pero if you will compare it with other brands ibang usapan na yan sir there will definitely have  sonic difference. ;)

Yup..and this is what I am afraid of..baka mamaya not worthy naman yung price ng 9.5/9.6 e di much better if I can get some other brands with the same price range but with better sound quality output..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 28, 2004 at 12:29 PM

tnx sa review sir!!! may nkita po b kyong 9.4 n nklabas. ung pumunta kc ako 9.3 lng ung nklabas na pede i-audition tpos walang pang mag-sesetup kaya nde ko rin na-audition :'( ... to all gurus out there... pareho lng po b preformance ng 9.1 & 9.4 since pareho lng sila ng specs??? tia po ulit  :)

Bro,

Meron syempre bigger sound yun floorstander compare to bookshelf but depend sa room mo kung small room mas ok bookshelf pero kung large room sure ako floorstander naman..iba din imaging ng bookshelf to floorstand models minsan naman laman sa mids ang bookshelf in moderate volume..  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 28, 2004 at 12:31 PM


korekek! kasama naman sa trabaho nila para makabenta ang pag entertain sa customer na gusto magpa audition. tandaan nyo, pera nyo yang gagastusin nyo at kayo ang makikinig... kaya huwag mahiya magpa-audition. i remembered when i was auditioning for an hk unit, kinuha pa nila sa stockroom ang 8.4 kasi yun ang speakers ko. naka staple pa yung box. wala akong pambili that time, pero wala naman akong naging problema nung nagpa audition ako. di naman ako na-pressure nila to buy it. so far the best mag audition sa spectra at sights & sounds. kaya punta na kayo at mag audition dun, then post nyo ang assessment nyo dito.

Pre Congrats sa Diamond 9.1 mo!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: odyopayl on Oct 28, 2004 at 12:50 PM
I will audition the 9.1's with a friend later during lunch break. I can't wait!

Anyway, you might want to check out a review of the 9.1 here

http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=29993.0

Thanks myki! Nice compilation very informative! I'm planning to put Diamond 9.1 set-up im my  bedroom using solid-state set-up and Planning to start with Audience 42 as my alternative speaker. I love the laidback sound of this Dyn speakers it's another experience!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Oct 28, 2004 at 01:23 PM
how much yung diamond 9.1?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Oct 28, 2004 at 01:29 PM
how much yung diamond 9.1?

most stores carrying the wharfedale brand of speakers sells it for P5,500.00.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mYKi on Oct 28, 2004 at 02:21 PM
I just came from Spectra with my friend. Thanks Jim for the great service once more.

I really wanted to like this speaker since for the price, it's a no-brainer. I plan to use this for bedroom speakers.

We listened to the 9.1s using a highly awarded NAD C542 cd player (which I used to have and still plan to buy by Christmas) and the HK 130 AVR. We listened using the Audiophile Voices II cd.

Our immediate impression was that it didn't have bass. Looking at the spec sheet, it should reach down to 50Hz but it didn't sound that way. The highs of the 9.1s were also incomplete. It sounded veiled. It was definitely missing something up there. The vocals were excellent and quite enjoyable to listen to. I used to have the Diamond 8.1s and I would have to say that I liked that one better since that had a better low-end.

I was disappointed. I had to take the MRT from Ortigas during my lunch break, just to listen to this and I was expecting more. We then asked Jim to play the 9.3s. These were bookshelves as well but a lot bigger. The woofer is even bigger (I think) than the B&W 602S3.

With the 9.3s, the treble sound came out. I wonder why this had more detail since I assume that it had the same tweeter as the 9.1s. Maybe the 9.1s were not broken-in yet. The mids of the 9.3s seem the same, but again, the low-end bass was not there. It had more bass than the 9.1s but I would expect more just by the size of the woofers.

They have a Monitor Audio Bronze 2 at the store and I am certain that that speaker would sound a lot better than the Diamond 9.1 or 9.3. But of course, it is also a lot more expensive. If you plan to audition at Spectra, listen to the B2 also just so that you can have a comparison.

Conclusion:

I know the sound of the NAD C542 and the Audiophile Voices CD very much and I was very disappointed with what I heard. Right now, I'm thinking that it could possible be the HK AVR 130. Maybe it was not powerful enough for the 6-ohm Diamonds. It could also be break-in since I know that kevlar cones take a long time to burn-in.

After our audition, we went to the next shop, (I forgot the name) the one which sells Rotel and B&W and where Ed is the shop owner. They were also selling the 9.1s and they had it on display. We said, "meron ka rin palang 9.1s. What Hi-Fi product of the year iyan!" and you know what he said... "Ang pangit tumunog."  Medyo natawa kami sa reply niya since he was selling it! also for P5,500.

ANYWAY, please don't let this review stop you from auditioning the speakers. Go to Spectra, listen to the Diamonds, and write your own review here. But for me, my search for a bedroom speaker less than P10,000 goes on.

I will audition the Diamond 9's again at Sights and Sounds in Shangri-La. Maybe I will have a better experience there.

But wait! P5,500 for a pair of speakers?! Sobrang mura talaga and maybe I'm expecting it to sound like a P10,000 or even P30,000 speaker. Besides, what other P5k speakers around are there that can already sound a bit audiophile-like.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 28, 2004 at 02:39 PM
Just the same, maybe we are expecting too much for these series...I dunno....we still have to find that out ..... ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jcob on Oct 28, 2004 at 04:10 PM
Just the same, maybe we are expecting too much for these series...I dunno....we still have to find that out ..... ;)

IMO, a review comparing the diamomd 9 to its predecessor (diamond 8) would be enough. Sa looks, boto ako dito sa bagong diamond. Pogi talaga. I don't know with the sound, if it's better than the diamond 8. Better nga ba? Pareho lang? Will the sonic difference be enough to replace your existing D8(for diamond 8 users)? How about when compared to wharfedale Evo series (considering their cabinet construction are the same)... ano nga difference ng evo sa 9 series?

dunno also..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Oct 28, 2004 at 04:57 PM
Kayo naman... hintayin niyo muna mag brake-in in 4 years para bumukas ang tunog.  ;D

j/k!  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 28, 2004 at 04:59 PM
bias ka slayer hahahahaha ;D :P

na-audition mo na ba pre tong 9 series?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Oct 28, 2004 at 05:02 PM
Pre,

Di pa... medyo lay-low muna ako sa ht/audio ngayon.  :P  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Oct 28, 2004 at 05:05 PM
Pre,

Di pa... medyo lay-low muna ako sa ht/audio ngayon.  :P  ;)

Pre kaya baised yan dahil nagpipigil yan. Ahehehehe

BTW, master islayer, ok na ba yung pinadala ko na docs last week
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 28, 2004 at 05:06 PM
Kaya pala lay-low ka din mag post dito pati sa mga session ;D :P ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sebman on Oct 28, 2004 at 05:07 PM
Pre,

Di pa... medyo lay-low muna ako sa ht/audio ngayon.  :P  ;)

pre nag-iipon na ng pang-tubo?  ;D  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Oct 28, 2004 at 05:14 PM
Nice review Sir mYKi.

Quote from: mYKi
Our immediate impression was that it didn't have bass. Looking at the spec sheet, it should reach down to 50Hz but it didn't sound that way. The highs of the 9.1s were also incomplete. It sounded veiled. It was definitely missing something up there. The vocals were excellent and quite enjoyable to listen to. I used to have the Diamond 8.1s and I would have to say that I liked that one better since that had a better low-end.

did you consider where they placed the speakers when u auditioned it (eg. the proximity of it's back side to the wall behind it)? did they put it on a stable and solid speaker stand? i read on the manual that was lying on the table there that to get more bass its back must be situated near the wall but not too near coz the bass will sound "boomy".


Quote from: mYKi
With the 9.3s, the treble sound came out. I wonder why this had more detail since I assume that it had the same tweeter as the 9.1s. Maybe the 9.1s were not broken-in yet. The mids of the 9.3s seem the same, but again, the low-end bass was not there. It had more bass than the 9.1s but I would expect more just by the size of the woofers.

i also noticed this when i auditioned the diamond 9.5. mas makalansing at defined ang treble as compared to that of the 9.1's eh kung titingnan mo same size ang material ng tweeters nila. ang pinagkaiba lang, i noticed and i'm not sure if this made the difference, is yung housing ng tweeter. regarding sa bass and mids sa 9.5 eh no brainer na kung alin ang mas maganda coz the 9.5 has separate drivers for this. sana audition mo na rin ang 9.5, wala ka na bang nakita dun na display? hehehehe  ;)  ;)  ;)

Quote from: mYKi
After our audition, we went to the next shop, (I forgot the name) the one which sells Rotel and B&W and where Ed is the shop owner. They were also selling the 9.1s and they had it on display. We said, "meron ka rin palang 9.1s. What Hi-Fi product of the year iyan!" and you know what he said... "Ang pangit tumunog."  Medyo natawa kami sa reply niya since he was selling it! also for P5,500.

i think the shop you're referring to is Sound Dimension which is beside Odyssey record bar. i also went there yesterday, same price, pero 9.1 lang meron sila. ganun din ang sabi sa akin pero not to the extent na sinabi nya na "Ang pangit tumunog." when i went to spectra and told that to jim, he coyly replied (not his exact words ha, but similar to this effect) "Baka naman sira na ang tenga nila." or "Baka naman tenga nila ang pangit." hehehehe

anyways, my hats off to you for the effort you did to audition it and the review you shared. o, yung iba naman jan ang mag audition (libre naman) at share nyo dito  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Oct 28, 2004 at 05:15 PM


pre nag-iipon na ng pang-tubo?  ;D  ;)

master slayer, di ka kaya tubuhin ni misis niyan kung sakali?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Chito C. on Oct 28, 2004 at 05:35 PM
kakapunta ko lang sa spectra. Sino bumili nung 9.5? Di ko tuloy na test.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 28, 2004 at 07:35 PM
kakapunta ko lang sa spectra. Sino bumili nung 9.5? Di ko tuloy na test.


Congrats pala ulit Chatstix 9.5 and 9.1 he got it from Spectra.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 28, 2004 at 07:41 PM


ano nga difference ng evo sa 9 series?

dunno also..


Bro, was able to audition the Diamond 9.3 notice that IMHO almost same na sila in MID department nun EVo 30 ko (nun di pa broken in EVo ) as for high can't tell since di pa breakin yun Diamond.. but according sa spec mas mataas yun Diamond 25Hz compare to Evo 20Hz lang.. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 28, 2004 at 07:49 PM
Guys,

I remember dati when i auditioned Wharf Evo 8 naka hook up sa NAD power amp and the sound is also as MYki mention roll off high and little bass pero yun vocals ok naman pero minsan muddy so i ask Jim to switch amps to HK.....ayun nagiba sound... tapos next audition ko Tube na dala ko... :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 29, 2004 at 07:39 AM
hmmm...mayroon na po bang naka-try sa inyo using different receiver during audition like yamaha or onkyo or marrantz?  ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Oct 29, 2004 at 07:48 AM
meron na po bang nakakita or available na po kaya ibang color, other than black? cguro mas gwapo pag wood color. ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 29, 2004 at 08:28 AM
meron na po bang nakakita or available na po kaya ibang color, other than black? cguro mas gwapo pag wood color. ;)

Wala pa ata ibang color pero sana meron na bago mag Dec.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Oct 29, 2004 at 08:59 AM
walastix talaga! dalawang diamond 9 na pala ang nakawala sa cuadra ;D ;D kung sino man yung bumili nun, congrats at sana parinig mo naman sa amin ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Oct 29, 2004 at 09:09 AM
walastix talaga! dalawang diamond 9 na pala ang nakawala sa cuadra ;D ;D kung sino man yung bumili nun, congrats at sana parinig mo naman sa amin ;D

agree!!! parinig naman dyan....hehehhehe ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimosabe on Oct 29, 2004 at 09:22 AM
Sa nakabili ng 9.5, ano difference ng 9.5 sa 8.4? Malaki ba? Im planning to buy 8.4 kasi pero hold ko muna dahil release na ang Diamond 9 series.

Thanks and congrats.

 8)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Oct 29, 2004 at 09:28 AM
Congrats pala ulit Chatstix 9.5 and 9.1 he got it from Spectra.. ;D

sir, isa lang dun kinuha ko. actually, i got the 9.1 na, nakalabas na ako ng parking when it suddenly hit me na it's d 9.5 i really liked. since i got 8.2 na as my surrounds which is more than adequate in its purpose. my original plan was to wait for the 9.6, and start building up my 5.1 series 9 setup by first buying the 9.1. and since i was impressed by the 9.5 and thought i should've bought it instead of the 9.1. gulo no?

so, i stopped at the entrace of park square one fronting the entrance to glorietta and i told my wife to go to spectra again and ask if i can make an exchange, add na lang ako ng 7k. Spectra agreed, my wife withdrew some more cash, and i waited in my car (mahal bayad ng parking kung mag park ulit ako...hehehe. besides closing time na rin nun). therefore, isa lang ang nabili ko hindi dalawa.  ;)

no regrets whatsoever when i made the exchange and my wife told me that it was really a good improvement. her exact words: "malinis at pino ang boses", "distinct and detailed ang sound", "ganda ng tunog". next item to buy: diamond 9 center.cm. kelan kaya magiging available ito?  ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 29, 2004 at 09:32 AM


sir, isa lang dun kinuha ko. actually, i got the 9.1 na, nakalabas na ako ng parking when it suddenly hit me na it's d 9.5 i really liked. since i got 8.2 na as my surrounds which is more than adequate in its purpose. my original plan was to wait for the 9.6, and start building up my 5.1 series 9 setup by first buying the 9.1. and since i was impressed by the 9.5 and thought i should've bought it instead of the 9.1. gulo no?

so, i stopped at the entrace of park square one fronting the entrance to glorietta and i told my wife to go to spectra again and ask if i can make an exchange, add na lang ako ng 7k. Spectra agreed, my wife withdrew some more cash, and i waited in my car (mahal bayad ng parking kung mag park ulit ako...hehehe. besides closing time na rin nun). therefore, isa lang ang nabili ko hindi dalawa.  ;)

no regrets whatsoever when i made the exchange and my wife told me that it was really a good improvement. her exact words: "malinis at pino ang boses", "distinct and detailed ang sound", "ganda ng tunog". next item to buy: diamond 9 center.cm. kelan kaya magiging available ito?  ???


Guys,

Ayan umamin na hehehehe  Congrats bro!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 29, 2004 at 09:37 AM


sir, isa lang dun kinuha ko. actually, i got the 9.1 na, nakalabas na ako ng parking when it suddenly hit me na it's d 9.5 i really liked. since i got 8.2 na as my surrounds which is more than adequate in its purpose. my original plan was to wait for the 9.6, and start building up my 5.1 series 9 setup by first buying the 9.1. and since i was impressed by the 9.5 and thought i should've bought it instead of the 9.1. gulo no?

so, i stopped at the entrace of park square one fronting the entrance to glorietta and i told my wife to go to spectra again and ask if i can make an exchange, add na lang ako ng 7k. Spectra agreed, my wife withdrew some more cash, and i waited in my car (mahal bayad ng parking kung mag park ulit ako...hehehe. besides closing time na rin nun). therefore, isa lang ang nabili ko hindi dalawa.  ;)

no regrets whatsoever when i made the exchange and my wife told me that it was really a good improvement. her exact words: "malinis at pino ang boses", "distinct and detailed ang sound", "ganda ng tunog". next item to buy: diamond 9 center.cm. kelan kaya magiging available ito?  ???


Ayus..congratz dude....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mYKi on Oct 29, 2004 at 09:42 AM
did you consider where they placed the speakers when u auditioned it (eg. the proximity of it's back side to the wall behind it)? did they put it on a stable and solid speaker stand? i read on the manual that was lying on the table there that to get more bass its back must be situated near the wall but not too near coz the bass will sound "boomy".

i also noticed this when i auditioned the diamond 9.5. mas makalansing at defined ang treble as compared to that of the 9.1's eh kung titingnan mo same size ang material ng tweeters nila. ang pinagkaiba lang, i noticed and i'm not sure if this made the difference, is yung housing ng tweeter. regarding sa bass and mids sa 9.5 eh no brainer na kung alin ang mas maganda coz the 9.5 has separate drivers for this. sana audition mo na rin ang 9.5, wala ka na bang nakita dun na display? hehehehe  ;)  ;)  ;)

i think the shop you're referring to is Sound Dimension which is beside Odyssey record bar. i also went there yesterday, same price, pero 9.1 lang meron sila. ganun din ang sabi sa akin pero not to the extent na sinabi nya na "Ang pangit tumunog." when i went to spectra and told that to jim, he coyly replied (not his exact words ha, but similar to this effect) "Baka naman sira na ang tenga nila." or "Baka naman tenga nila ang pangit." hehehehe

anyways, my hats off to you for the effort you did to audition it and the review you shared. o, yung iba naman jan ang mag audition (libre naman) at share nyo dito  :)
It was around 1.5m away from the backwall. I'm sure the anemic bass was also because of that. The backwall of Spectra has various audio gears so that also acts as a sound-absorption object. That's why I'd like to also audition the 9.1s in a different place. Jim placed it on top of a floorstander and it looked very stable naman.

Yup! Sound Dimension nga yung place. I guess kaya ganoon ang reply niya about the 9.1s since close customer niya yung friend ko. Doon bumili yung friend ko ng lahat ng gear niya.... until I exposed my friend to my Marantz.  :-)  Sabi kasi ng shopowner doon, na pangit daw ang Marantz, mas maganda daw yung Onkyo na binibenta niya. Ayun! Napabili siya ng Onkyo. Noong pina-home-audition ko yung Marantz ko eh binenta niya kaagad yung Onkyo niya. hehehe

So in other words, yung dealer sa SD, eh solid promoter talaga ng B&W and Rotel and sasabihin niya na pangit na lahat. I couldn't even imagine that he said na bug-bog sarada daw ang Monitor Audio B2 sa B&W DM303. Eh kakabili ko lang ng B2 para sa bookstore ng kapatid ko.

Actually, a good way for us to know the capabilities of the 9.1s, is kung meron pwedeng magpahiram sa akin ng 9.1s and kabit ko sa bahay to my system. Kahit na half-day lang.   :)

Congrats sa 9.5's mo. Bilib ako doon sa SARS incubation period mo. Mas mabilis pa sa alas-singko.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Oct 29, 2004 at 10:02 AM
Congrats sa 9.5's mo. Bilib ako doon sa SARS incubation period mo. Mas mabilis pa sa alas-singko.  :)

yeah, panibagong strain ata ito eh. hehehe.  pero umnom na ako ng serum, would last 1 year before maapektuhan ulit ng sars  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: PLiSKiN on Oct 29, 2004 at 10:17 AM
mga sirs... gaano b dpat kalakas pg break-in period itong mga speaker n ito? im using hk-130. & gaano po katagal ang break-in period. tnX!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iceman90a on Oct 29, 2004 at 10:37 AM
moderate volume - di kumakalabog, break in time depends on usage, basta gamitin mo lang - mapapansin mo mas relaxed na tunog nya... yun pwede mo na ihataw ng malakas lakas ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Oct 29, 2004 at 10:49 AM


sir, isa lang dun kinuha ko. actually, i got the 9.1 na, nakalabas na ako ng parking when it suddenly hit me na it's d 9.5 i really liked. since i got 8.2 na as my surrounds which is more than adequate in its purpose. my original plan was to wait for the 9.6, and start building up my 5.1 series 9 setup by first buying the 9.1. and since i was impressed by the 9.5 and thought i should've bought it instead of the 9.1. gulo no?

so, i stopped at the entrace of park square one fronting the entrance to glorietta and i told my wife to go to spectra again and ask if i can make an exchange, add na lang ako ng 7k. Spectra agreed, my wife withdrew some more cash, and i waited in my car (mahal bayad ng parking kung mag park ulit ako...hehehe. besides closing time na rin nun). therefore, isa lang ang nabili ko hindi dalawa.  ;)

no regrets whatsoever when i made the exchange and my wife told me that it was really a good improvement. her exact words: "malinis at pino ang boses", "distinct and detailed ang sound", "ganda ng tunog". next item to buy: diamond 9 center.cm. kelan kaya magiging available ito?  ???


Wow, good for you chatstix and congrats.  I personally prefer floorstanders over bookshelfs on the same product line that share the same mid or tweets.  If the 9.5 costs less than P13,000 a pair, that's a real bargain considering that the net site I've visited lists its SRP as 350 pounds sterling.  What did you get, black or birch?  The birch looks nice to me.

(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/95.gif)

I just noticed its anechoic sensitivity is 86db/1watt/1meter.  You must have a really powerful amp to make it sing its best.  What amp are you using? 

I find it odd that the center speaker is not yet available.  I think they have 3 models for center, starting at 100 pounds.

(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/9_CM.gif)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Oct 29, 2004 at 10:53 AM
mga sirs... gaano b dpat kalakas pg break-in period itong mga speaker n ito? im using hk-130. & gaano po katagal ang break-in period. tnX!

yung sa wharf ko, it took me approx. 1 week @ 8 - 9 hours/day with -30db volume on my yammie..  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Oct 29, 2004 at 11:06 AM
What did you get, black or birch?  The birch looks nice to me.

sir, we have no choice here at the moment since it's only black that's available here. but my wife said that she likes the black color more since it looks sexy and sophisticated and i agree with her ( i had a maple floorstanders before). but my first choice of color was the rosewood vinyl.

Quote from: av_phile1
I just noticed its anechoic sensitivity is 86db/1watt/1meter.  You must have a really powerful amp to make it sing its best.  What amp are you using? 

on the manual it's sensitivity rating is 88db (2.83V, 1M) <-- i really have no idea what it means or how to translate this in layman's term. on their brochure, it list the 9.5 as 88db sensitivity: 1W @ 1m. i'm using harman-kardon avr 230 and i noticed that it can drive the 9.5 easily as compared to the 86db floorstanders i have before.

Quote from: av_phile1
I find it odd that the center speaker is not yet available.  I think they have 3 models for center, starting at 100 pounds.

the only series 9 diamond center available here is the cs version, also available only in black. selling price here is P4,800.00.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Oct 29, 2004 at 11:09 AM
mga sirs... gaano b dpat kalakas pg break-in period itong mga speaker n ito? im using hk-130. & gaano po katagal ang break-in period. tnX!

I wouldn't want to question some wisdom often presented for speaker break-in.  In some of the forums I've visited, this is considered another snake oil.  It's possible there is some break-in considering that speakers are electro-mechanical devices; and any mechanical device can benefit from some break-in.  But I think the improvements are incremental, not dramatic as some would say.  A good speaker at the start is a good speaker all the way and a lousy one is just that.  NO break-in will ever make a lousy speaker out of the box sound better. The fact is, if the sound of new speakers impressed you as being better than your old, chances are they are indeed better.  If not, the break-in period will only make you more accustomed to the sound of the speaker.  I had a officemate who wasn't particularly impressed with his new speakers, except that it had nice reviews, good specs and  a lot more expensive than his old.  After six months of alleged break-in, he said he is now satisfied with them.  Since he still has his old speakers stashed in another room, I dared him to re-install his old speakers to compare.  That weekend, he did.  And it dawned on him that his old speakers were indeed much better.  The break-in period apparently made him simply accustomed to the new speakers.  The break-in period never made them any better.

That's ofcourse another experiential story in this hobby.  Not valid for everyone, for sure.  
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Oct 29, 2004 at 11:29 AM


sir, we have no choice here at the moment since it's only black that's available here. but my wife said that she likes the black color more since it looks sexy and sophisticated and i agree with her ( i had a maple floorstanders before). but my first choice of color was the rosewood vinyl.



on the manual it's sensitivity rating is 88db (2.83V, 1M) <-- i really have no idea what it means or how to translate this in layman's term. on their brochure, it list the 9.5 as 88db sensitivity: 1W @ 1m. i'm using harman-kardon avr 230 and i noticed that it can drive the 9.5 easily as compared to the 86db floorstanders i have before. 


the only series 9 diamond center available here is the cs version, also available only in black. selling price here is P4,800.00.


Well, black is a sophisticated color.  And quite useful.  They actually aid in making the speakers seem to disappear in a dark room.  ;D  I too have both black (front) and beige(back) of the same model. 

The website I visited had it rated at 86db.  But that's not a matter to quibble over.  Your HK is a most competent receiver to drive an 88db load.  2.83volts RMS is essentially the voltage that can deliver 1 watt across an 8-ohm load.  That's their measuring standard for speaker sensitivity.   You may want to check out the thread on Power vs Decibels for a more thorough discussion.  Suffice it to say that 88db is loud enough as 60db is the level of person-to-person conversation. And I would guess that the 9.5's 6-ohm rating somehow compensates for this low sensitivity as it should deliver slightly more watts for the same input. And the HK is a high-current gear known to deliver more current at loads lower than 8 ohms. 

Are you planning to get this center as well?  I think the CS is mid-priced among their center speakers.  The CM might be a better match to your 9.5.


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Oct 29, 2004 at 11:31 AM


yeah, panibagong strain ata ito eh. hehehe.  pero umnom na ako ng serum, would last 1 year before maapektuhan ulit ng sars  ;D

Walastik ka talaga Chatstix!  :o :o Congrats sir!....... Pakinig naman niyan.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Oct 29, 2004 at 11:39 AM

Are you planning to get this center as well?  I think the CS is mid-priced among their center speakers.  The CM might be a better match to your 9.5.


sir, the cm version is what i'll be buying. unfortunately, only the cs version is available here at the moment.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 29, 2004 at 11:42 AM


Walastik ka talaga Chatstix!  :o :o Congrats sir!....... Pakinig naman niyan.  ;D ;D


DOM kimpao,

So ano kukunin natin?  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Oct 29, 2004 at 11:43 AM


sir, the cm version is what i'll be buying. unfortunately, only the cs version is available here at the moment.

try listening in style at shang for other models of the 9 series or you can try the shop in shang which sells those B&W speakers (forgot the name).  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Oct 29, 2004 at 11:43 AM



DOM kimpao,

So ano kukunin natin?  ;)

Tadsulok, KOya.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Oct 29, 2004 at 11:43 AM
Walastik ka talaga Chatstix!  :o :o Congrats sir!....... Pakinig naman niyan.  ;D ;D

sir, medyo mahihirapan ako sa request nyo. nakalagay kasi sa room namin ni esmi ang setup and medyo sagrado kay misis on who can come inside our room. maybe if you could suggest a place on a weekend na malapit sa amin eh i could bring them speakers, gusto ko din matuto from u gurus on how to evaluate the sound and performance of speakers and much more about audio.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Oct 29, 2004 at 11:45 AM
Schedule mo lang sir at sama sama ka rin sa mga session.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Oct 29, 2004 at 11:47 AM
ok sir. just pm me the schedule of ur next sessions, and if i find it within my tolerable distance  from my home  :)  then i'll join and bring the 9.5's.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 29, 2004 at 11:48 AM


maybe if you could suggest a place on a weekend na malapit sa amin eh i could bring them speakers, gusto ko din matuto from u gurus on how to evaluate the sound and performance of speakers and much more about audio.

Sir gusto mo ba magka SARS?? sama ka minsan  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: akyatbundok on Oct 29, 2004 at 12:48 PM
ok yan sir chatstix, nabigyan mo ng diamond si misis.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Oct 29, 2004 at 01:10 PM


Sir gusto mo ba magka SARS?? sama ka minsan  ;D ;D ;D

KOya, wag mo naman takutin.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 29, 2004 at 01:14 PM


KOya, wag mo naman takutin.  ;D ;D

Oooopps di naman just a warning >:D >:D >:D..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 29, 2004 at 01:15 PM
walastix, sang araw lang ako mawala e ang saya saya n dito! fiesta na ba at my naka diamond 9 na e.

congrats sir chatixs, sana makasama ka ang in one of the sessions.......... sayang ang SARS.

hehehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Oct 29, 2004 at 01:52 PM
More than 300,000 members.  And only one owns a Diamond 9 so far.  May the tribe grow before the year ends.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 29, 2004 at 01:58 PM
More than 300,000 members.  And only one owns a Diamond 9 so far.  May the tribe grow before the year ends.  ;D


Wish wish too bro..  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: odyopayl on Oct 29, 2004 at 06:21 PM
That's ofcourse another experiential story in this hobby.  Not valid for everyone, for sure. 

Hahahaha! That's Audio politics Sir!!! Ako no comment!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: fotoslave on Oct 29, 2004 at 07:17 PM
haba agad ng thread na toh.  :o

basta yata bago... maganda!!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iceman90a on Oct 29, 2004 at 09:50 PM
di naman - pero pag bago, interesting ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 30, 2004 at 06:59 AM
di naman - pero pag bago, interesting ;D

Pag bago - Interesting lalo na kung affordable.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Oct 30, 2004 at 09:08 AM


sir, we have no choice here at the moment since it's only black that's available here. but my wife said that she likes the black color more since it looks sexy and sophisticated and i agree with her ( i had a maple floorstanders before). but my first choice of color was the rosewood vinyl.


Wala ba lavander si diamond 9?  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Oct 30, 2004 at 09:11 AM


I wouldn't want to question some wisdom often presented for speaker break-in.  In some of the forums I've visited, this is considered another snake oil.  It's possible there is some break-in considering that speakers are electro-mechanical devices; and any mechanical device can benefit from some break-in.  But I think the improvements are incremental, not dramatic as some would say.  A good speaker at the start is a good speaker all the way and a lousy one is just that.  NO break-in will ever make a lousy speaker out of the box sound better. The fact is, if the sound of new speakers impressed you as being better than your old, chances are they are indeed better.  If not, the break-in period will only make you more accustomed to the sound of the speaker.  I had a officemate who wasn't particularly impressed with his new speakers, except that it had nice reviews, good specs and  a lot more expensive than his old.  After six months of alleged break-in, he said he is now satisfied with them.  Since he still has his old speakers stashed in another room, I dared him to re-install his old speakers to compare.  That weekend, he did.  And it dawned on him that his old speakers were indeed much better.  The break-in period apparently made him simply accustomed to the new speakers.  The break-in period never made them any better.

That's ofcourse another experiential story in this hobby.  Not valid for everyone, for sure.  

Sir, sa GC, break-in kaagad yan!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 31, 2004 at 12:02 AM


Sir, sa GC, break-in kaagad yan!  ;D

There is one very effective way of doing it bro. Play your speakers like you stole them!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 31, 2004 at 01:06 PM
Now I'll first get some things out of the way. Special thanks to SpeactarAV for allowing a home audition of this wonderful speakers, thanks to Hans for transporting them and to Akyat for hosting the session. Wonderful people!

There were two models used, the 9.2 and the 9.4, unfortunately I was kinda late and was only able to listen to the floorstander for only a couple of songs, therefore I cannot give any accurate description of the 9.4. But I was able to inspect the units and it looks that the construction is really solid and those wonderful gold plated bi-wireable binding posts are very good in grasping bare wires and banana plugs.

But then again, the 9.2 is a different story, I was able to listen to it for at least 4 hours, and with several amps too. Now, it may seem to look like a sliced version of the 9.4, the 9.2 was impressive, the amount of highs was balanced, the mids are clear and like others say, crisp. For me the mids are in a way open and brings the song artist right in the middle of your room. A very surprising amount of bass is also packed in this model, for a bookshelf, I wasn't expecting such bass, but the sofa was shaking.  ;D Bi-wiring these bookshelfs also elevated the sound.

For me, the 9.2 is an impressive bookshelf, trully a cost-effective choice indeed.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/Dump/Wharf_9.jpg)

I won't go too much in the technicals of the setup but some of the gears used were:

AMX PP EL34 Tube Amp (Jetok)
Consonance M99 Tube Amp (Audioslave)
Tube Hybrid Gainclone Amp (Punk_kid)

AMX Tube Preamp with Phono (Kimpao)

I don't know the models of the cdp but they were Yamaha, Sony and Sansui cdp present. Also, Akyat's Technics SL-1200 was used as a source.

Again, thanks to Mr. SpectraAV for the trust.  :)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/Dump/M99.jpg)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: j_albert22 on Nov 01, 2004 at 09:38 AM
tama ka jo nakakamangha ika nga at very reasonable price pa sa halagang 7K (mali akala natin na 7plus  7 flat lang pala) :P
tube friendly pa di mahirap i drive ..............malamang hot cake na naman itong speaker na ito kaya c Kuya HANS muntik nang hindi ibinaba sa kotse hehehehe kaso takot lang kay..........................lam nyo na yon di alam kc kung pano ipapaliwanag hehehehe .........................kuya pis tayoooooooooo

btw thank uli sa SPECTRA sana may uulitin pang iba  ;D ;D ;D

pahabol thank din sa nag dala nang 8.3  kay BGA



isa pa maraming napahanga itong speaker na ito malamang meron sa mga nag punta kina akyat ang bibili nito this week lang kaya sa mga baguhan kung gusto nyo mapakinggan hehehe punta lang kayo sa SPECTRA park square  ;) ;) ;)  sipsip no   >:D >:D >:Dhehehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 01, 2004 at 03:33 PM
Ang bilis ng review ni Sir Jojo  ;D...

I would just like to add a little more technical specs with the shootout..Cables used were XLO, XLO Pro (Master Hans) and Analysis Plus (Sir Iceman)..Now you might be curious why I am saying this but as I have observed during the session, I have found out that speaker cables really make a difference...

Going back to the review, there were two new wharfedale speakers (Thanks to Spectra) namely 9.2 (bookshelf) and 9.4 (floorstander). 9.4 was the first to be auditioned and as hours went by, the sound slowly came out pretty good though bass was still a little boomy but I guess this is normal for it needs a little more break-in. In comparison with 8.3 what I have noticed about 9.4 are the binding posts position (sana medyo nakalubog din sya tulad nung dun sa 8.3 ewan ko pero ganito kasi yata ang design ng series 9) but this was overcomed by the new looks of the binding posts. The grill and the appearance also improved in 9.4 (nagmuha na syang sexy). For overall review on 9.4, I give it a 4 out of 5 stars.

After the 9.3 audition, 9.2 (bookshelf) was connected to the setup and after an hour or two the sound came out impressively..good balance of highs, mids, and lows..bass was not boomy. For a bookshelf to be this good is a steal considering its price. This could be the new front speakers you are looking for. I give 9.2 a 5 out of 5 stars.

Watch-out ayan na ang SARS...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Nov 01, 2004 at 06:30 PM
eto naman ang masasabi ko sa mga diamond 9 na pinakinggan namin:

For the 9.4, ang poooooogi na enclosure/design ;D..... but unfortunately hindi siya ganun ka impressive, boomy din yung bass nya para sa akin, sa laki ng sala ni akyat naging boomy pa siya ;D

As for the 9.2, di ko akalain na meron pala siyang tinatagong talento pag dating sa performance, saludo ko sa tunog nya, well balanced sound at matindi din yung bass output nya lalo na nung naka bi-wire ng XLO speaker wires.

Conclusion:

I still love my 8.3  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Salamat din pala sa SpectraAV for trusting us to home audition the speakers.... at salamat din sa mga nagdala ng gears, para ko na rin narinig yung buong setup ko ;D.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 01, 2004 at 07:37 PM
It just flashed in the left side of my brain regarding the boominess of the 9.4....... hindi kaya ganun tumunog yun dahil kailangan pang lagyan ng buhangin, semento, pebbles, marble tiles, etc. sa loob? Dba may tweak na nilalagyan ng sandbag sa loob yun speakers?

 ::)

Pero ganda talaga 9.2 hehehe

 ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Nov 01, 2004 at 09:55 PM
Pre,

8.3 parin ba kesa sa 9.4?

eto naman ang masasabi ko sa mga diamond 9 na pinakinggan namin:

For the 9.4, ang poooooogi na enclosure/design ;D..... but unfortunately hindi siya ganun ka impressive, boomy din yung bass nya para sa akin, sa laki ng sala ni akyat naging boomy pa siya ;D

As for the 9.2, di ko akalain na meron pala siyang tinatagong talento pag dating sa performance, saludo ko sa tunog nya, well balanced sound at matindi din yung bass output nya lalo na nung naka bi-wire ng XLO speaker wires.

Conclusion:

I still love my 8.3  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Salamat din pala sa SpectraAV for trusting us to home audition the speakers.... at salamat din sa mga nagdala ng gears, para ko na rin narinig yung buong setup ko ;D.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Nov 01, 2004 at 10:08 PM
sayang di ako nakapunta at napakinggan ang 9.2 paired with tube amps :-[ maybe the place at spectra is not really an ideal environment for auditioning so its good that a home audition was allowed. anyway at the price of 7k its a steal..;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 01, 2004 at 10:09 PM
sayang di ako nakapunta at napakinggan ang 9.2 paired with tube amps :-[ maybe the place at spectra is not really an ideal environment for auditioning so its good that a home audition was allowed. anyway at the price of 7k its a steal..;)

sayang nga at na-miss mo yun last session, ganda pa naman ng mga gears.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Nov 01, 2004 at 11:50 PM
Pre,

8.3 parin ba kesa sa 9.4?




9.2 pre!  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Nov 02, 2004 at 12:08 AM
It just flashed in the left side of my brain regarding the boominess of the 9.4....... hindi kaya ganun tumunog yun dahil kailangan pang lagyan ng buhangin, semento, pebbles, marble tiles, etc. sa loob? Dba may tweak na nilalagyan ng sandbag sa loob yun speakers?

 ::)

Pero ganda talaga 9.2 hehehe

 ;D


Doc, monumento kalalabasan niyan!  :o  ;D ;D

Masyado niyo naman kinawawa 9.4 ah!  IMHO, considering that the speakers were out of the box (sealed pa kamo), i'd say they are promising. Much exercise were still needed by the pair that was lent to hans by Spectra.  Bass was a bit boomy thus overpowering its mids and highs especially on those bass kicking tracks. Highs and Mids are there but the pair still needs to be broken-in.

The 9.2 was a different story, considering that these were bookshelf speakers. Bass was abundant yet tight, mids were open (after a couple of hours of exercise) highs were sparkling which somewhat surprised me as these were softdome tweeters. For the price, I'd say these babies can "spank the living day lights" out of those mid priced bookshelves, "Bang for The Buck" the speakers are worth it. 

KOya Hans,

Maraming salamat sa iyong tiyaga, pagka-ginoo at paghihirap sa pag dala ng mga bagong speakers! Sama na rin natin yung tapang ng apog sa pag-hiram ng speakers (biro lang, KOya!  ;D). Ahehehehehe ;D ;D

Maraming salamat din sa Spectra sa pagtitiwala niyo sa amin!  :D

Mga katoto! SARS!!!!!!!!!.............. Takbo na at baka maubusan ng Diamond 9 series!.........
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: PLiSKiN on Nov 02, 2004 at 02:34 AM
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moderate volume - di kumakalabog, break in time depends on usage, basta gamitin mo lang - mapapansin mo mas relaxed na tunog nya... yun pwede mo na ihataw ng malakas lakas
tnx po sir iceman... pero parang wala kcng bass e... pg-moderate po b dapat nde gumagalaw ung driver ng speaker???

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yung sa wharf ko, it took me approx. 1 week @ 8 - 9 hours/day with -30db volume on my yammie
sir control... ung hk130 ko nsa -20 n kso parang ang hina p rin e... gusto ko sanang lakasan kso kailangan p daw break-in period...

sir av_phile tnx din po... pero para safe s speakers ko...i-break-in ko n lng din po... :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 02, 2004 at 06:50 AM

sir control... ung hk130 ko nsa -20 n kso parang ang hina p rin e... gusto ko sanang lakasan kso kailangan p daw break-in period...


Sir, wag mo munang ihataw yang speakers mo...ganyan din ako nung first week ng wharfs ko...just let it be..unting tyaga lang....   ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 02, 2004 at 06:54 AM
It just flashed in the left side of my brain regarding the boominess of the 9.4....... hindi kaya ganun tumunog yun dahil kailangan pang lagyan ng buhangin, semento, pebbles, marble tiles, etc. sa loob? Dba may tweak na nilalagyan ng sandbag sa loob yun speakers?

 ::)

Pero ganda talaga 9.2 hehehe

 ;D

Sir Jojo...ito rin ang isang pumasok sa isip ko.. yung butas sa likod...sadly I didn't noticed any possible hole at the back of 9.4 (nde kaya ito nalipat sa gilid o ilalim?) kaya hindi ko nilagay sa review..  :-X
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Nov 02, 2004 at 08:51 AM
Guys,

Di ata sandfillable yung 9 series pero pogi ng enclosure ano hehehe bat kaya naging boomy yung 9.4 ??? dahil ba sa freq nya na 23hz as compared to 8.3 na 20hz  ??? o dahil out of the box siya ??? ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 10:19 AM
Guys,

Thanks to Spectra.. galing talaga didn't expect this will sound very good considering out of the box..  :)

9.2 din ako... ( brown color lumabas ka na!!) pero 9.4 break in yan for sure magiging tight ang bass..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 02, 2004 at 10:30 AM
Guys,

Thanks to Spectra.. galing talaga didn't expect this will sound very good considering out of the box..  :)

9.2 din ako... ( brown color lumabas ka na!!) pero 9.4 break in yan for sure magiging tight ang bass..

hehehe..kala ko Sir Hans inuwi mo na yung 9.2  ;D ...Brown color pala yung gusto mo...  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: j_albert22 on Nov 02, 2004 at 10:31 AM
Guys,

Thanks to Spectra.. galing talaga didn't expect this will sound very good considering out of the box..  :)

9.2 din ako... ( brown color lumabas ka na!!) pero 9.4 break in yan for sure magiging tight ang bass..

si KOyang masama balak hehehe totohanan na ito hehehe black na lang matagal pa lalabas yon  ;D ;D ;D ;D next year pa
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 10:32 AM


hehehe..kala ko Sir Hans inuwi mo na yung 9.2  ;D ...Brown color pala yung gusto mo...  >:D

Sir para match sa rack ko hehehehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: fierari on Nov 02, 2004 at 10:49 AM
sayang di rin ako nakarating..............



wala bang tuning foam na pang plug sa hole yung 9.4 para mawala pagka boomy nya?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 02, 2004 at 11:00 AM
Guys,

Thanks to Spectra.. galing talaga didn't expect this will sound very good considering out of the box..  :)

9.2 din ako... ( brown color lumabas ka na!!) pero 9.4 break in yan for sure magiging tight ang bass..

Out of the box speakers are supposed to have STIFFER suspensions.  So the woofer excursions are more constrained and the bass less.  As an element for mechanical action, the suspension could be one area where a break-in period can arguably benefit a speaker.  Though I still reserve my doubts on it.  At any rate, if a speaker were boomy out of the box,  logic might say that a more relaxed suspension after a certain period of break-in use would make it even more boomy.  Not less.  

Many speakers using 2.5 or 3-way designs do sound a bit boomy compared to a simpler 2-way within the same model series at a certain price range.    The crossover electronics and accoustical requirements for them are a lot more demanding and thus, more expensive, than 2-way speaker designs.  That's why 2-way speakers are often preferred at lower price points.  Some speakers using ported designs coupled with passive woofers can sound boomy, as they were designed essentially to peak at a certain frequency often dictated by the port or passive woofer resonance.  Their FR curves do confirm this and can correlate with their percieved boominess to achieve higher sensitivities.  But they can sound really bass heavy and often impressive for disco and rock afficionados.

I am therefore, not surprised that the 9.2 is better preferred over the 9.4 by those who have heard and compared them.  If I recall right, there was about the same preference people had for the 8.2/8.3 over the 8.4 in the past.  Just my observation.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 02, 2004 at 11:07 AM
need i say more...........  :P

naf said about the two 9's we were lucky to have been able to listen to more extensively, albiet the 9.4 was in the true sense of the word, out of the box (sealed pa nga e), while the 9.2 boxes was already open ( creating a conclusion that maybe it may already have had some play time).

compared side with a the 8.3 of sir BGA (sand filled and had its fair time of play) the 9.4 (which is by the way as tall as the 8.3) excelled in the voice department, where the singer sound sweeter when  played through it  (same cdp, amp, wires... same everything), this despite the fact that it came right out of the box (i'll avoid for now mentioning about break-ins  >:D, hot topic aye  ::) ). At the first few hours of play, when it was connected to the M99 of sir audioslave, i find it lacking in the bass department (manipis). Hours latter when it was now attached to the GC of sir punk_kid, it became now quite boomy! The bass, out of control. However, i still have my good impressions for this speaker, who knows latter on, how it will perform.  ;D

My salutations to the 8.3 of sir BGA, you got one heck of a speaker there sir! yong isa nga dyan e, d mapakali kinalikot agad yong 8.3 nya, ganda daw kasi tumunog 8.3 ni benjie, nag sand-filled din! buong lingo ata walang ginawa kundi baklasin, este buksan,  yong takip sa likod, HIRAP PRE ANO  >:( ahahaha. sabi ko nga syo my tawag dyan dito SARS .  ;D

with the 9.2, it was an entirely different story, as this baby's performance improved the more after several hours of play, hanep sa bass nga! thought it is a no-no to compare a bookshelf to a floorstander, i couldnt help myself, as for its size, it packed a lot of punch for you to forget you are listening to a bookshelf, i was totally enthralled!  :o if only i dont have a bookshelf yet.  ::)

and for there price, i say:  "its a pity not to own one." ( i did say more pala)  ;)

THANK YOU SPECTRA AV FOR THE TRUST AND THE OPPORTUNITY GIVEN TO US TO HOME AUDITION THEM

oist d kami endorser ha! ewan ko lang kay k0ya,  ::)  nyehehehe.  >:D

FISH kOya!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 02, 2004 at 11:32 AM

My salutations to the 8.3 of sir BGA, you got one heck of a speaker there sir! yong isa nga dyan e, d mapakali kinalikot agad yong 8.3 nya, ganda daw kasi tumunog 8.3 ni benjie, nag sand-filled din! buong lingo ata walang ginawa kundi baklasin, este buksan,  yong takip sa likod, HIRAP PRE ANO  >:( ahahaha. sabi ko nga syo my tawag dyan dito SARS .  ;D


Aray..ako yun ah....  ;D Anyway, okay naman ang rewards...  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 02, 2004 at 11:55 AM
Ayan na at naghahanap na ng brown color...... parang baby version ng EVO yun....... ang SARS talaga mabilis ang epekto...  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 02, 2004 at 12:07 PM
ok na ok tlga yan pre! kaya bili bili na! hehehe.   >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 02, 2004 at 12:08 PM
brown ba kamo, e2 at my kiwi ako.... kwik shine pa!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Nov 02, 2004 at 12:15 PM


Aray..ako yun ah.... ;D Anyway, okay naman ang rewards... >:D

may improvement ba pre? baka di sulit yung ginawa mo eh :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 02, 2004 at 12:20 PM
brown ba kamo, e2 at my kiwi ako.... kwik shine pa!  ;D


nakuh po, baka hindi makuha sa kiwi yun ah. pag lumabas yan brown color nyan malamang wala ng maisip na excuse.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 02, 2004 at 12:23 PM
malamang! e pano na si evo? for keeps na rin ba yon?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 02, 2004 at 12:31 PM


may improvement ba pre? baka di sulit yung ginawa mo eh :D

Noticeable yung difference pre...   ;D . Medyo makunat lang talaga yung takip kaya ang hirap tangalin..  >:(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 02, 2004 at 12:36 PM
virgin pa kasi yan pre kaya ganyan......


o d kaya dhil matanda na yan at my makakabatang kapatid na yna si 9 kaya makunat na.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Nov 02, 2004 at 12:37 PM


Noticeable yung difference pre... ;D . Medyo makunat lang talaga yung takip kaya ang hirap tangalin.. >:(

kaduda duda yang sagot mo pre ;D ano nag improve sa speaker mo?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 02, 2004 at 12:39 PM
virgin pa kasi yan pre kaya ganyan......


o d kaya dhil matanda na yan at my makakabatang kapatid na yna si 9 kaya makunat na.

 ;D... Palagay ko tama si Sir Jojo...mukhang yung init ng........................tubo ang hinihintay para lumambot...  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 02, 2004 at 12:43 PM


kaduda duda yang sagot mo pre ;D ano nag improve sa speaker mo?

Sir Punk..naging swabe yung tunog...dati kasi medyo malakas yung highs...but after that tweak, nagkaroon ng balance yung highs, mids, and bass.... nga pala nakatulong din yung "MAGIC CD" which I played for almost 8 hours nung Sunday  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 02, 2004 at 12:44 PM
May nakapagsabi sa akin na bukod daw sa warmth at nostalgia ng tubes eh napaka sexy daw.... parang aphrodisiac kapag nag babaga na yun tubes. Actually hindi ko pa maintindihan yun ibig sabihin nun girl eh pero it has something to do talaga with SARS!

Series 9 SARS, bagong strain ng virus ito.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 02, 2004 at 12:47 PM
 
Quote from: control
... Palagay ko tama si Sir Jojo...mukhang yung init ng........................tubo ang hinihintay para lumambot...


hahaha. alam ko ibig sabihin nyan pre ah, latest design/version ba yong plano mo?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 02, 2004 at 12:51 PM



hahaha. alam ko ibig sabihin nyan pre ah, latest design/version ba yong plano mo?

 :-X  <- Ganito muna ako hehehe..para sunpense   ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 02, 2004 at 12:54 PM
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May nakapagsabi sa akin na bukod daw sa warmth at nostalgia ng tubes eh napaka sexy daw.... parang aphrodisiac kapag nag babaga na yun tubes. Actually hindi ko pa maintindihan yun ibig sabihin nun girl eh pero it has something to do talaga with SARS!

Series 9 SARS, bagong strain ng virus ito.


parang iba ang dating nito sakin sir ah...... ibang pumapasok sa utak ko! Super Audio Related [email protected] (SARS) ba? >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 02, 2004 at 12:56 PM
sior control,

secret din! napapa isip tuloy ako kung upgrade to diamond 9 naba yn o tooot...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 01:02 PM


Out of the box speakers are supposed to have STIFFER suspensions.  So the woofer excursions are more constrained and the bass less.  As an element for mechanical action, the suspension could be one area where a break-in period can arguably benefit a speaker.  Though I still reserve my doubts on it.  At any rate, if a speaker were boomy out of the box,  logic might say that a more relaxed suspension after a certain period of break-in use would make it even more boomy.  Not less.  


Stiffer woofer tend to move slow that why it produced muddy sound, while woofer that been exercised or lets say broken in usually move better or faster that produce clear or better sound. muddy sound may also be cause by unstable spike or base that instead only the woofer moving the whole box ( buffle ) also moves/resonate so some do mass loading. ( sand filing ).

agree with you sir about the 2way design that some best speaker are 2way than 3way or lets say 2 woofer..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 01:10 PM
sior control,

secret din! napapa isip tuloy ako kung upgrade to diamond 9 naba yn o tooot...

Ano ba yan?? medyo out pa utak ko hehehehe...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 02, 2004 at 01:18 PM
yan kasi late ka ng gumising!


diamond 9 langt to sir (hehehe) para d OT.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 01:34 PM
malamang! e pano na si evo? for keeps na rin ba yon?

Senor,

TALAGANG 4 KEEPS Yan!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 02, 2004 at 01:38 PM
la na bye bye evo na.............. tagal naman kasi ng brown na 9 series! hoy madaliin nyo na wharfedale, wag nyo ng paabot ng next yr, for hans sake!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 02, 2004 at 01:43 PM


Stiffer woofer tend to move slow that why it produced muddy sound, while woofer that been exercised or lets say broken in usually move better or faster that produce clear or better sound. muddy sound may also be cause by unstable spike or base that instead only the woofer moving the whole box ( buffle ) also moves/resonate so some do mass loading. ( sand filing ).

agree with you sir about the 2way design that some best speaker are 2way than 3way or lets say 2 woofer..

Yup, a stiff cone suspension can produce a slow responding muddled bass.  I'm just not convinced that a muddled bass is the same as boomy bass, unless a peaking happens at those frequencies.   Perhaps we just have different definitions.  ;D

A boomy bass for me is one that has a characteristic PEAKING at certain frequencies relative to other bass frequencies, often at around 60hz, and is  the result of speaker or port resonances and room modes augmenting each other.  Every room has its characteristic room bass peaks, but a speaker that has its own could easily aggravate the percieved boominess.  So boomines has more to do amplitudes.  

OTH, muddled bass for me has more to do with confused bass notes that are not amplitude related, but a failure to delineate the harmonics between different bass frequencies because the woofer can't respond fast enough to fast-changing bass notes and their harmonics.   It doesn't have to peak but you can get a one-note bass line below a certain frequency.  A stiff cone suspension can result in muddied bass but may be too constrained to displace more air mass to sound boomy compared to a more relaxed suspension.  But, ofcourse, a speaker can exhibit both traits.  Even if the suspension were too stiff to move more air mass, if the port is tuned to that frequency, there'd still be some peaking at that frequency, though on a lesser scale.  But the peaking can increase as the suspension material gets "broken-in."  And this peaking can happen even as the muddled bass gets better definition.  So a muddled bass need not be boomy, unless there are peaks where it is muddles as well.  A boomy bass need not be muddled either, but can sound muddled if it jibes or augments room modes and overpowers other bass notes.  So which is which?  Was it boomy, muddled, or both?  Just my thoughts.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 01:44 PM
la na bye bye evo na.............. tagal naman kasi ng brown na 9 series! hoy madaliin nyo na wharfedale, wag nyo ng paabot ng next yr, for hans sake!!!

psssst J_albert and i got news limited lang daw stock nun 9?? naku kaya bili ka na rin.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Nov 02, 2004 at 01:51 PM
ur welcome
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 01:51 PM


Yup, a stiff cone suspension can produce a slow responding muddled bass.  I'm just not convinced that a muddled bass is the same as boomy bass, unless a peaking happens at those frequencies.   Perhaps we just have different definitions.  ;D

A boomy bass for me is one that has a characteristic PEAKING at certain frequencies relative to other bass frequencies, often at around 60hz, and is  the result of speaker or port resonances and room modes augmenting each other.  Every room has its characteristic room bass peaks, but a speaker that has its own could easily aggravate the percieved boominess.  So boomines has more to do amplitudes.  

OTH, muddled bass for me has more to do with confused bass notes that are not amplitude related, but a failure to delineate the harmonics between different bass frequencies because the woofer can't respond fast enough to fast-changing bass notes and their harmonics.   It doesn't have to peak but you can get a one-note bass line below a certain frequency.  A stiff cone suspension can result in muddied bass but may be too constrained to displace more air mass to sound boomy compared to a more relaxed suspension.  But, ofcourse, a speaker can exhibit both traits.  Even if the suspension were too stiff to move more air mass, if the port is tuned to that frequency, there'd still be some peaking at that frequency, though on a lesser scale.  But the peaking can increase as the suspension material gets "broken-in."  And this peaking can happen even as the muddled bass gets better definition.  So a muddled bass need not be boomy.  A boomy bass need not be muddled either, but can sound muddled if it jibes or augments room modes and overpowers other bass notes.  Just my thoughts.

boomy bass is cause by room accoustic di ba?? like get a 8.4 and put it in a small room and gets boomy while when you use it in a large room the sound is balance?  :)

Muddy bass woofer too slow to react yun kaya ganun?  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 02:21 PM
brown ba kamo, e2 at my kiwi ako.... kwik shine pa!  ;D

Kiwi?? mahirap yan SARS kung ano ano naiisip Atty..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 02:22 PM


kaduda duda yang sagot mo pre ;D ano nag improve sa speaker mo?


Duda ka ba.... isumbong mo kay Tulfo!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Nov 02, 2004 at 02:25 PM
di naman siya 2 woofer para maging boomy like the 8.4, di kaya sa amp yun Koya? di kasi natin na bi-wire yung 9.4 para natest kung boomy pa sound nya.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 02:25 PM
Now I'll first get some things out of the way. Special thanks to SpeactarAV for allowing a home audition of this wonderful speakers, thanks to Hans for transporting them and to Akyat for hosting the session. Wonderful people!

There were two models used, the 9.2 and the 9.4, unfortunately I was kinda late and was only able to listen to the floorstander for only a couple of songs, therefore I cannot give any accurate description of the 9.4. But I was able to inspect the units and it looks that the construction is really solid and those wonderful gold plated bi-wireable binding posts are very good in grasping bare wires and banana plugs.

But then again, the 9.2 is a different story, I was able to listen to it for at least 4 hours, and with several amps too. Now, it may seem to look like a sliced version of the 9.4, the 9.2 was impressive, the amount of highs was balanced, the mids are clear and like others say, crisp. For me the mids are in a way open and brings the song artist right in the middle of your room. A very surprising amount of bass is also packed in this model, for a bookshelf, I wasn't expecting such bass, but the sofa was shaking.  ;D Bi-wiring these bookshelfs also elevated the sound.

For me, the 9.2 is an impressive bookshelf, trully a cost-effective choice indeed.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/Dump/Wharf_9.jpg)

I won't go too much in the technicals of the setup but some of the gears used were:

AMX PP EL34 Tube Amp (Jetok)
Consonance M99 Tube Amp (Audioslave)
Tube Hybrid Gainclone Amp (Punk_kid)

AMX Tube Preamp with Phono (Kimpao)

I don't know the models of the cdp but they were Yamaha, Sony and Sansui cdp present. Also, Akyat's Technics SL-1200 was used as a source.

Again, thanks to Mr. SpectraAV for the trust.  :)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/Dump/M99.jpg)


Galing lalo nun naka hook up sa Gainclone ni KID_lat.. play D best of The Cure.. and Excellent!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 02, 2004 at 02:27 PM


boomy bass is cause by room accoustic di ba?? like get a 8.4 and put it in a small room and gets boomy while when you use it in a large room the sound is balance?  :)

Muddy bass woofer too slow to react yun kaya ganun?  :)

Yup, boomy bass is caused by room accoustics.  But the speaker itself can be boomy if,  in an anechoic room, it exhibits peaking at certain bass frequencies, and worse, if the speaker's resonant peaks jibes with the room modes.  A speaker that peaks at 70hz will have enourmous peaks at 70hz in a room with an 8-ft high ceiling and is 8-foot wide or deep.   (a room with identical height, width and depth is the worst sounding room.)   In general, yes, the bigger the room dimensions, the lower the frequencies that will peak as a result of room modes.   So a very large room will push those frequencies outside the threshhold of audibility.

Muddy bass is muddled bass and results from woofers too slow to react to changing bass notes and their harmonics.    
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 02:28 PM
di naman siya 2 woofer para maging boomy like the 8.4, di kaya sa amp yun Koya? di kasi natin na bi-wire yung 9.4 para natest kung boomy pa sound nya.

Pssst KID_lat di kasi natin nilagay yun spike and unstable yun magazine na pinatungan ng 9.4 kaya in loud volume ah sumasama yun body sa galaw instead na yun woofer lang.. eh yun 9.2 naka stand di ba tapos meron spike. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 02:29 PM


Yup, boomy bass is caused by room accoustics.  But the speaker itself can be boomy if,  in an anechoic room, it exhibits peaking at certain bass frequencies, and worse, if the speaker's resonant peaks jibes with the room modes.  A speaker that peaks at 70hz will have enourmous peaks at 70hz in a room with an 8-ft high ceiling and is 8-foot wide or deep.   (a room with identical height, width and depth is the worst sounding room.)   In general, yes, the bigger the room dimensions, the lower the frequencies that will peak as a result of room modes.   So a very large room will push those frequencies outside the threshhold of audibility.

Muddy bass is muddled bass and results from woofers too slow to react to changing bass notes and their harmonics.    

Thanks sir.. :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Nov 02, 2004 at 02:32 PM
Oo nga!!! ;D ;D ;D palitan ko pinost kong review :P seriously, ok naman sana tunog nung 9.4 kaso boomy lang talaga kaya nasira yung overall performance nya ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 02:35 PM
Oo nga!!! ;D ;D ;D palitan ko pinost kong review :P seriously, ok naman sana tunog nung 9.4 kaso boomy lang talaga kaya nasira yung overall performance nya ::)

pero 9.4 vocals is also sweet and refine.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Philander on Nov 02, 2004 at 02:36 PM
Try also to increase the distance of the speaker from the walls / side walls or corner. This will help in taming the boomy bass.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Philander on Nov 02, 2004 at 02:37 PM
Oo nga!!! ;D ;D ;D palitan ko pinost kong review :P seriously, ok naman sana tunog nung 9.4 kaso boomy lang talaga kaya nasira yung overall performance nya ::)

I think di pa na break-in yan. Try to wait about 3 more months, mas gaganda ang tunog nyan...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Nov 02, 2004 at 03:23 PM


pero 9.4 vocals is also sweet and refine.

mas sweet and refined kaysa sa 8.3



I think di pa na break-in yan. Try to wait about 3 more months, mas gaganda ang tunog nyan...

out of the box pa siya when we listen to it
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 02, 2004 at 04:07 PM
Quote from: av_phile1
More than 300,000 members.  And only one owns a Diamond 9 so far.  May the tribe grow before the year ends.

sir with due respect, pinoydvd has 7,820 members with a total  of 362,544 post... as of this posting sir.

naku kung nagkataon e baka ligawan na tayo ng mga politicians nyan by next election. biruin mo almost half a million votes agad.  >:D

fish sir av. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: skylark on Nov 02, 2004 at 04:40 PM
Sir what about 9.3 ano sa palagay nyo oks din ba sya..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 02, 2004 at 04:48 PM
yan ang type ko tlga! with an 8" driver (my guess) panalo yan. i however wasnt able to audition this baby, d na kasi kasya sa sasakyan ni hans e (kasi my walker pa! >:( ) kaya 9.2 na lang dinala namin! hayyy.....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 05:11 PM
yan ang type ko tlga! with an 8" driver (my guess) panalo yan. i however wasnt able to audition this baby, d na kasi kasya sa sasakyan ni hans e (kasi my walker pa! >:( ) kaya 9.2 na lang dinala namin! hayyy.....

Ok ba maging model ng kiddie walker?? hehehhehee ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 02, 2004 at 05:16 PM
hehehehe.......... loko ka ah! kung d lang sa maalki kong respito sayo sir, sasakyan ko na yon e!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 05:23 PM
hehehehe.......... loko ka ah! kung d lang sa maalki kong respito sayo sir, sasakyan ko na yon e!

Atty wag wag kay baby France yun walker... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 02, 2004 at 05:33 PM


Atty wag wag kay baby France yun walker... ;D ;D

Dapat yun revo dinala mo para lahat ng models kasya!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Nov 02, 2004 at 05:43 PM


Dapat yun revo dinala mo para lahat ng models kasya! ;D ;D ;D ;D

mas maganda kung yung delivery van nila sa office para lahat ng gears sa spectra bitbit namin ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Nov 02, 2004 at 05:47 PM


mas maganda kung yung delivery van nila sa office para lahat ng gears sa spectra bitbit namin ;D ;D ;D

pre pati yung mga tauhan dun sa shop maisasama mo na dun pati yung mayari.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Nov 02, 2004 at 05:50 PM


pre pati yung mga tauhan dun sa shop maisasama mo na dun pati yung mayari. ;D

lilipat na ba sa bundok yung spectra hehehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 02, 2004 at 05:51 PM


lilipat na ba sa bundok yung spectra hehehehe

actually sa dami ng gear ni cheap akyat parang audio store na din.  ;D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 05:58 PM
Sir what about 9.3 ano sa palagay nyo oks din ba sya..

Sayng nga eh we wasn't able to audition it.. pero heard it sa spectra and again promising din ang sound labas din vocals..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 02, 2004 at 05:59 PM
ha? bahay ba yon? kala ko audio store e!

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 06:08 PM


mas maganda kung yung delivery van nila sa office para lahat ng gears sa spectra bitbit namin ;D ;D ;D


Isuzu Forward gagamitin natin next time.. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 03, 2004 at 07:06 AM



Isuzu Forward gagamitin natin next time.. ;D ;D ;D

Yup..para may lugar yung walker... joke joke joke...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 03, 2004 at 01:45 PM


Yup..para may lugar yung walker... joke joke joke...  ;D


Next time sama ko na rin yun stroller hehehehe  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 03, 2004 at 02:22 PM



Next time sama ko na rin yun stroller hehehehe  ;D ;D

Hahahah...sakit ng tyan ko katatawa Sir Hans...  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 03, 2004 at 10:43 PM



Next time sama ko na rin yun stroller hehehehe  ;D ;D

dati nun evo yun dala mo may stroller ah, bakit nun series 9 na eh binuhat mo lang?  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 04, 2004 at 12:31 PM
kung magkakaganon e d na ako sasama! >:(  biruin mo stroller ng walker na kakandungin ko! tindi!  ;D

pwede rin patong nating yong diamond 9 para d na tayo magbuhat.  ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: odyopayl on Nov 04, 2004 at 12:55 PM
I wonder how this diamond 9.2 sounds if you change the  internal wiring with either "XLO" or "Audience" and change the caps with let say "Auricap"...Hot Rod Diamond 9.2! I believe there will be improvement just like they did in USHER X-719 speakers!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 04, 2004 at 01:07 PM
hmmm.... intresting idea sir odyopayl, but how much would the cost entail for such improvement or hot rodding?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 04, 2004 at 01:15 PM
kung magkakaganon e d na ako sasama! >:(  biruin mo stroller ng walker na kakandungin ko! tindi!  ;D

pwede rin patong nating yong diamond 9 para d na tayo magbuhat.  ::)

wawa naman yung stroller Sir...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 04, 2004 at 01:29 PM
I wonder how this diamond 9.2 sounds if you change the  internal wiring with either "XLO" or "Audience" and change the caps with let say "Auricap"...Hot Rod Diamond 9.2! I believe there will be improvement just like they did in USHER X-719 speakers!!

gud day sir! i would suggest that you listen to it like we did - without changing any parts.  ;)

galing! napabilib nga ako dyan sa small wonder na yan, napuno ng music yun bundok.  ;D see you next session.  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 04, 2004 at 02:57 PM
baka ma OT na tayo sa kaka walker-stroller pre kung d natin ipatong yong diamond  e. ahahaha!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 04, 2004 at 03:07 PM
baka ma OT na tayo sa kaka walker-stroller pre kung d natin ipatong yong diamond  e. ahahaha!

Sir Wanderlust baka nde ka na makahinga kapag nilagay mo pa sa ibabaw ng stroller yung diamond 9.2..  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 04, 2004 at 03:14 PM
lang ya..... wag naman sir habang karga karga ko yong walker!!!! human rights violation na yon oy! hehehehe. >:(

pro kung ibibigay ba sakin yong diamond pagkatapos kong kargahin abay.... PWEDE!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 04, 2004 at 03:15 PM
di na baleng madaganan basta may 9.2 ka naman!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 04, 2004 at 03:19 PM
lang ya..... wag naman sir habang karga karga ko yong walker!!!! human rights violation na yon oy! hehehehe. >:(

pro kung ibibigay ba sakin yong diamond pagkatapos kong kargahin abay.... PWEDE!!!! ;D

Aba..Sir kung ganyan ang usapan isama mo na rin yung 9.4 sa 9.2.....ako na alng ang kakalong..  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: fotoslave on Nov 04, 2004 at 05:00 PM


At any rate, if a speaker were boomy out of the box,  logic might say that a more relaxed suspension after a certain period of break-in use would make it even more boomy.  Not less.  


sir, sa lahat ng sinabi mo.... boto ako dyan....  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: fotoslave on Nov 04, 2004 at 05:13 PM
Try also to increase the distance of the speaker from the walls / side walls or corner. This will help in taming the boomy bass.

if the speakers are rear-ported, that would help

but for the 9.4s which are front-ported, wall distance is not that significant.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 05, 2004 at 03:02 PM


if the speakers are rear-ported, that would help

but for the 9.4s which are front-ported, wall distance is not that significant.

Diamond 9.4 is front ported pala kaya di mapili sa placement yan near or far sa back wall pwede.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: PLiSKiN on Nov 06, 2004 at 12:16 PM
doon po s may d9c-cs. talaga po bang wala syang kasama n extra feet. nakalagay kc s manual meron dapat e. tnX!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Nov 07, 2004 at 08:03 AM
Not unless na pare siya ng enclosure ng diamond 8 which is not that good kaya it resonates to the backwall (wood) pag malapit. Kahit na front ported siya.



Diamond 9.4 is front ported pala kaya di mapili sa placement yan near or far sa back wall pwede.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: j_albert22 on Nov 07, 2004 at 08:28 AM


if the speakers are rear-ported, that would help

but for the 9.4s which are front-ported, wall distance is not that significant.

atty wala na rin pagalalagyan nang port sa likod coz of the design nang BOX nya
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 08, 2004 at 12:50 PM
Any update kung meron na iba color ( brown )?? :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 08, 2004 at 12:52 PM
Any update kung meron na iba color ( brown )?? :)

Uy ang Sir nag-aabang..Sir pag 9.2 ang kukunin mo sabay tayong bumuli ng stands ha...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 08, 2004 at 01:05 PM
next year pa! magnepan ka na lang sir! ahahaha.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 08, 2004 at 01:07 PM


Uy ang Sir nag-aabang..Sir pag 9.2 ang kukunin mo sabay tayong bumuli ng stands ha...  ;D

Sure....








teka why to i need to buy stand aanhin ko yan.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 08, 2004 at 01:09 PM
next year pa! magnepan ka na lang sir! ahahaha.

ganda ng magnepan....









kaso di type ng wallet ko.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: j_albert22 on Nov 08, 2004 at 01:09 PM


teka why to i need to buy stand aanhin ko yan.. ;D

kunwari pa daw baka bumili na yan...... ;D ;Dlimited stock lang daw e
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 08, 2004 at 01:13 PM

teka why to i need to buy stand aanhin ko yan.. ;D

 ;D Sa evo mo ba ipapatong Sir? wawa naman Evo mo....baka magselos yun at hindi na mag-perform ng maayos... >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 08, 2004 at 01:13 PM
d na kailangan stands pag naka magnepan ka sir, d mo na kailangan yn. hehehe. oy kunwari pa.... bye bye naba sa old, hello new naba? ;D

hayyy...........  type ko din sana yon kaya lang kahit ipambayad ko pati wallet ko d pa rin kaya, ahihihi. mag politician na lang kaya ako? >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 08, 2004 at 01:15 PM
Saw the 9.2 and 9.4 at Sights&Sounds last Sunday and the center as well.  Very well made - looking more like an EVO with its shape.  Wala pa lang 9.3.  The 9.4 has a similar config as an 8.3.  Heard them with a USAudio Sub and sounded pretty fine.  
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 08, 2004 at 01:19 PM
Saw the 9.2 and 9.4 at Sights&Sounds last Sunday and the center as well.  Very well made - looking more like an EVO with its shape.  Wala pa lang 9.3.  The 9.4 has a similar config as an 8.3.  Heard them with a USAudio Sub and sounded pretty fine.  

Bro whats the color available black din ba?? thanks ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Nov 08, 2004 at 01:20 PM
ano pa hinihintay nyo..... narinig nyo naman kung pano sumuka.... este tumunog yung 9.2
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 08, 2004 at 01:24 PM


Bro whats the color available black din ba?? thanks ;D

Black is what I saw.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 08, 2004 at 01:39 PM
Saw the 9.2 and 9.4 at Sights&Sounds last Sunday and the center as well.  Very well made - looking more like an EVO with its shape.  Wala pa lang 9.3.  The 9.4 has a similar config as an 8.3.  Heard them with a USAudio Sub and sounded pretty fine.  

sir how was the 9.2 vs 9.4? w/c is a better buy? did you also find the 9.4 to be boomy?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: odyopayl on Nov 09, 2004 at 04:02 PM


sir how was the 9.2 vs 9.4? w/c is a better buy? did you also find the 9.4 to be boomy?

I took the liberty to reply.  Well speakers on different sizes sounded different depending on the size of the room & position of the speakers. Naturally if your room is small the floorstander will sound boomy.

Speakers neither front or rear ported requires space on back & sidewalls.  The sound of your speakers also depends on your room acoustics. The truth floorstander (big speakers in general) are easier to manage than bookshelf speakers. Diba mas madaling magbawas let say boomy! (try to locate your speakers away from the backwall) compared to Bass craving? That's why high-end speakers really designed BIG! Huge! but they are not intent for a coliseum. Bigger speakers can give you good bass & body in a less volume listening. (IMHO)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 09, 2004 at 05:04 PM


sir how was the 9.2 vs 9.4? w/c is a better buy? did you also find the 9.4 to be boomy?


I did not perform extensive test to say either way.  The set-up had a USAudio sub playing so if it was boomy, I'd blame the sub.  But I didn't perceive any boominess.  The 9.2 was just on display.  They seem to have the same driver elements, so in situations like this, I'd personally prefer a floorstander as you can always define them on the receiver as SMALL, if you want to diminish their bass response.   Then again, if you have excellent subs to begin with, the bookshelfs will do just as well, if not better.  Sometimes the bass back-loading in large enclosures can have an adverse effect on the mids so that a bookshelf in the same line can have more defined mids.  It pays to audition both if you are interested in this model.  I was looking for something else at that time. (The NAD C542  ;D)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on Nov 10, 2004 at 01:05 PM
Hi guys,

What model of D9 series is equivalent to D 8.1? How would you compare the performance in the midrange and treble section? As far as I know D8.1 has so many citations because of its performance in this section. Thanks for any info..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 10, 2004 at 01:32 PM
Hi guys,

What model of D9 series is equivalent to D 8.1? How would you compare the performance in the midrange and treble section? As far as I know D8.1 has so many citations because of its performance in this section. Thanks for any info..


The two models I can think of are the 9.0 and 9.1.. sadly we didn't have the opportunity to audition it.  :-\
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Nov 12, 2004 at 11:24 AM
Finally had a glimps of the 9.4 yestarday at spectra... didn't heard its performance though as i was in a hurry. Kinatok ko lang... ganda ng enclosure tsaka face area ng silk dome tweeter.  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Nov 12, 2004 at 02:30 PM
anyone tested the new diamond9 subs???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on Nov 12, 2004 at 07:54 PM
Was able to audition the Polk Audio sub(dunno model-white cone?), the Def Tech Prosub100TL and the Diamond SW150.  The Def Tech sounded deeper than the two while the Polk sounded louder(boomier?) and best for HT.  IMHO, the SW150 sounded tight and well-controlled(better than the Polk) for music at the price being offered so that's the one I got.  No regrets. :)  For HT, it initially sounded weak but now that I've gotten it broken in(took a month) it's just right for my room(small) and doesn't disturb the neighbors...much.  ;D   
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Nov 13, 2004 at 12:42 PM
thanks taggart
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on Nov 13, 2004 at 06:58 PM
No problem john.  Take my words with a big grain of salt dahil newbie lang talaga ako hehe.  Just want to add na-audition ko narin CHT-10 in another shop and found the bass really nice kaya lang wala sa budget ko.  Same with the Prosub.  Wharfedale at Polk lang pasok sa budget kaya sila talaga pinagcompare ko.  Oh yeah...wanna add on the SW150...6 fixed crossover points from 85hz to 35hz in 10hz intervals...dunno if this is good or bad.       
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Larry_Boy on Nov 14, 2004 at 07:14 AM
guys, i have the awards 2004 edition of what hi fi? sound and vision magazine and guess what . . .  wharfedales diamond 9 series garnered 3 awards as follows:

1) Best compact speaker package for the up to L500 price range (in pounds) for the WHARFEDALE DIAMOND 9 HCP package (this includes 4 diamond 9.0 satelllites, the sw150 sub and the 9cc as centre)

Verdict: Small, tidy and with an enviable unity of sound, this is the best compact speaker package around at the price - budget AV receiver owners need look no further

2) Awards 2004 Product of the Year - Subwoofer category for the WHARFEDALE DIAMOND SW150

Verdict: A true champion in terms of value and performance - weight and presence at a great package

3) Awards 2004 Product of the Year - Stereo Speakers category for the WHARFEDALE DIAMOND 9.1

Verdict: Wharfedale's Diamond 9.1s are a bar-raising effort - the company has just taken the performance of a sub- L200 (in pounds) speakers to a whole new level. A superb budget option.  The designer has given the Wharfedales a sonic ability you'd think was impossible at this price.


. . . so there you have it guys . . . it's time to audition for those who are still having second thoughts!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iceman90a on Nov 14, 2004 at 01:46 PM
After inviting my Tito to the audio fair - he kept bugging me to set up a home theater for him SARS ;D he already had a Yamaha that he could use, but didn't know what it was...

I went to his house yesterday and saw that it was a Yamaha DSP A1 - cool! so armed with his money we went to Spectra (thanks Jim) and bought the following:

Diamond 9.2
Diamond 9.1
Diamond CS
Diamond Subwoofer
(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0UACSGWcX2LV*Jmx9MQUfyoozElbUhVS1RmwuceRFSzsawAOo8fzxLbPUgajJh!hOOC6DCDQ1e9xEWEuWHAoHk7CTBu*7lG75jLmWuIXxWaXZdrKAfj6kKXSCkhkAcJIZ/Resize%20of%20inbox.JPG)

before
(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0UgAaA!sXzOJ*Jmx9MQUfyoozElbUhVS1DBSDgFunOo9rvdjDBhyIY33UbMtyF8V0O*ePte8kpfiJJvh0POllm0191yUygONYSL6b16P4ckEU6TEPwzfaFgc5zud9cZ7i/Resize%20of%20before1.JPG)

after
(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0UAAjA1kXcrJ*Jmx9MQUfyoozElbUhVS14D8WtRylC6T4LhMdz5FPzypTrIeWaKuLP1ZEdVz7ijnBr0YaR3afLiBYC5SaXLB7GJU4XG!fbpjdc9cUmzAgm3SCEhkAcBIZ/Resize%20of%20after.JPG)

all i can say is for HT - i wouldn't spend any more than the cost of these speakers. they do the job and do it well ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: losi_phile on Nov 15, 2004 at 10:54 AM
Hi guys,

What model of D9 series is equivalent to D 8.1? How would you compare the performance in the midrange and treble section? As far as I know D8.1 has so many citations because of its performance in this section. Thanks for any info..


Hi Letor,

I have an 8.1 and was able to listen to 9.1 at sights and sounds (Shangrila).  Based on my few minutes of listening to the 9.1, the most noticable difference between the two is in the bass region.  The 9.1 has more bass than the 8.1.  The mid and high section is almost the same.  Maybe the 9.0 will be equivalent to the 8.1 (haven't listened to the 9.0 though) but the 9.1 is, for me, better than 8.1.  To add to that, the 9.1 is already product of the year sa What HiFi magazine.  Now, I'm seriously considering the 9.1 as against to my earlier preference, the 9.6 >:( >:( Just my opinion.

losi_phile
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 15, 2004 at 11:01 AM
iceman,

natuloy ka din pala! congrats sa HT setup ng Tito mo! sayang at di ako nakasama sa inyo....  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on Nov 15, 2004 at 01:26 PM


Hi Letor,

I have an 8.1 and was able to listen to 9.1 at sights and sounds (Shangrila).  Based on my few minutes of listening to the 9.1, the most noticable difference between the two is in the bass region.  The 9.1 has more bass than the 8.1.  The mid and high section is almost the same.  Maybe the 9.0 will be equivalent to the 8.1 (haven't listened to the 9.0 though) but the 9.1 is, for me, better than 8.1.  To add to that, the 9.1 is already product of the year sa What HiFi magazine.  Now, I'm seriously considering the 9.1 as against to my earlier preference, the 9.6 >:( >:( Just my opinion.

losi_phile


Thanks a lot losi_phile,

With your comments I'm excited to listen to the 9.1 or 9.2 myself kaso lang wala pang stock ang dealer sa area namin. If that's the case its easier to blend the subwoofer with the 9.1. How about the 9.2 have you tried listening? What's your observation? 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 15, 2004 at 03:17 PM


Thanks a lot losi_phile,

With your comments I'm excited to listen to the 9.1 or 9.2 myself kaso lang wala pang stock ang dealer sa area namin. If that's the case its easier to blend the subwoofer with the 9.1. How about the 9.2 have you tried listening? What's your observation? 


Guys,

We had the chance to home audition 9.2 and for a bookshelf it have a floorstander bass  ;D ;D hehehehe the room is around 4 x 7 meters ata aside from the good low end it also provide us with good extended high and sweet mids. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 15, 2004 at 03:55 PM
After inviting my Tito to the audio fair - he kept bugging me to set up a home theater for him SARS ;D he already had a Yamaha that he could use, but didn't know what it was...

I went to his house yesterday and saw that it was a Yamaha DSP A1 - cool! so armed with his money we went to Spectra (thanks Jim) and bought the following:

all i can say is for HT - i wouldn't spend any more than the cost of these speakers. they do the job and do it well ;D

Kya pala you text me ha mag shopping spree ka pala.. hehehehe Congrats sa Tito mo! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iceman90a on Nov 16, 2004 at 07:44 AM
sarap mag shopping pag di mo pera ;D

happy naman sya eh - pag alis ko, nakapuwesto na lahat sila sa sala ;D

jojo - pag yung audio set-up na nya papagawa, sama ka ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 16, 2004 at 10:02 AM
sarap mag shopping pag di mo pera ;D

happy naman sya eh - pag alis ko, nakapuwesto na lahat sila sa sala ;D

jojo - pag yung audio set-up na nya papagawa, sama ka ;D

Senor Iceman,

How much was the total cost of the setup ( speakers with sub only )?  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Chito C. on Nov 16, 2004 at 10:05 AM
mga sars,

kung kayo pagpipiliin, 8.3 o 9.2?

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 16, 2004 at 10:50 AM
ICE,

pa session naman sa bahay ng tito mo, hehehe. seriously, congrats sa tito. ;)

sir chito,

comparing a floorstander to a bookshelf would be like comparing apples to oranges, anyhow, with the performance of the 9.2 i would think twice before getting another of the same price range. ;D

just would like to add, had compared the 8.3 with the 9.4 quite extensively, i say ill go with the 9.4 anytime..... even with my eyes closed!   >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 16, 2004 at 10:53 AM
mga sars,

kung kayo pagpipiliin, 8.3 o 9.2?



parang masyadong chaotic yan, pareho maganda yan para sa akin.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 16, 2004 at 10:57 AM
mga sars,

kung kayo pagpipiliin, 8.3 o 9.2?



Sir Chito,

If you have the money, go for 9.2..but the problem is you need speaker stands (kung gagawin mo syang floor stander)... Halos unti lang naman ang price difference nila ..  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iceman90a on Nov 16, 2004 at 11:04 AM
Senor Iceman,

How much was the total cost of the setup ( speakers with sub only )? ;D

Diamond 9.2 - 7k
Diamond 9.1 - 5.5k
Diamond CD - 4.5k
Diamond Sub - 9k

Total - 26k

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Chito C. on Nov 16, 2004 at 11:13 AM


Sir Chito,

If you have the money, go for 9.2..but the problem is you need speaker stands (kung gagawin mo syang floor stander)... Halos unti lang naman ang price difference nila .. ;)


Hindi din ako makapili eh. Already have the a pair of speaker stands.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 16, 2004 at 11:13 AM
oy oy oy............... quite affordable yan sir ice! o ayan ha, you have the price quote, soon youll have your 13th or bonuses..... bili bili na mga katoto!  8)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 16, 2004 at 11:18 AM



Hindi din ako makapili eh. Already have the a pair of speaker stands.

Oh, meron ka na palang stands Sir.... If I was given the chance and money...I'll choose 9.2... sarap sa tubo nito...mainit init pa....  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 16, 2004 at 11:21 AM
tubo na naman.............. hehehehe.

masarap tlga yan, parang tinapay sa mainit na kape yan!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Chito C. on Nov 16, 2004 at 11:32 AM
wala aking tubo eh. 60/40 ht/audio use.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 16, 2004 at 12:46 PM
si control nga din wala pa...... 60/40 audio n HT din yan..........


pero malapit ng magkatubo iyan eh! abangan!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 16, 2004 at 05:13 PM
wala aking tubo eh. 60/40 ht/audio use.


Bro kahit SS amp pwede yan.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 16, 2004 at 05:14 PM


Diamond 9.2 - 7k
Diamond 9.1 - 5.5k
Diamond CD - 4.5k
Diamond Sub - 9k

Total - 26k


Bro thanks 26k for the package..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 16, 2004 at 05:18 PM
chito,

Bro ano current front speaker mo? if floorstander then get a bookshelf naman tutal meron ka na stands.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Chito C. on Nov 16, 2004 at 05:35 PM
mga sars,

Using bose accoustimass as fronts for ht (2 cubes +1 bass module) for my ht setup at my room (along with yamaha 440 whc2 center and surrounds). Using my sony compo (big bookshelf speakers with  stands) at the sala mostly for audio. Sony speakers definitely better than the bose but I don't have space for the sony speakers. Once I decide to buy 8.3 or 9.2 then I'll buy a video rack that will solve spacing problems. Not yet interested in buying a sub this year coz of my almost 2 year old baby boy (umiiyak sa malalalim na tunog at boses). Although it would be cheaper to just switch my sony speakers and bose speakers and just buy a nice rack i'm afflicted with sars (dahil sa inyo!). warfs ht setup lahat.

8.3 o 9.2?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Nov 16, 2004 at 05:38 PM


Oh, meron ka na palang stands Sir.... If I was given the chance and money...I'll choose 9.2... sarap sa tubo nito...mainit init pa....  >:D

Ang isda ika nga nila nahuhuli sa sariling bibig. Tsk............tsk...........tsk..................
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 16, 2004 at 05:49 PM
mga sars,

Using bose accoustimass as fronts for ht (2 cubes +1 bass module) for my ht setup at my room (along with yamaha 440 whc2 center and surrounds). Using my sony compo (big bookshelf speakers with  stands) at the sala mostly for audio. Sony speakers definitely better than the bose but I don't have space for the sony speakers. Once I decide to buy 8.3 or 9.2 then I'll buy a video rack that will solve spacing problems. Not yet interested in buying a sub this year coz of my almost 2 year old baby boy (umiiyak sa malalalim na tunog at boses). Although it would be cheaper to just switch my sony speakers and bose speakers and just buy a nice rack i'm afflicted with sars (dahil sa inyo!). warfs ht setup lahat.

8.3 o 9.2?


If you plan to use it for audio setup.. 9.2 ako pero kung HT 8.3 since wala ka pa sub baka mabitin ka sa HT mo with a bookshelf...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 16, 2004 at 08:42 PM



If you plan to use it for audio setup.. 9.2 ako pero kung HT 8.3 since wala ka pa sub baka mabitin ka sa HT mo with a bookshelf...


tama si KoYA, kung HT apps, 8.3 talaga ang option mo senor.  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 17, 2004 at 06:38 AM
mga sars,

Using bose accoustimass as fronts for ht (2 cubes +1 bass module) for my ht setup at my room (along with yamaha 440 whc2 center and surrounds). Using my sony compo (big bookshelf speakers with  stands) at the sala mostly for audio. Sony speakers definitely better than the bose but I don't have space for the sony speakers. Once I decide to buy 8.3 or 9.2 then I'll buy a video rack that will solve spacing problems. Not yet interested in buying a sub this year coz of my almost 2 year old baby boy (umiiyak sa malalalim na tunog at boses). Although it would be cheaper to just switch my sony speakers and bose speakers and just buy a nice rack i'm afflicted with sars (dahil sa inyo!). warfs ht setup lahat.

8.3 o 9.2?

Hmmm..madami-dami pala ang conditions mo Sir Chito... definitely I'll choose 8.3 over 9.2 sa set-up mo for ht kasi kulang talaga sa bass ang bookshelf..lalo na kung gagawin mong front for HT at walang susuportang subs..but, you have two choices in here..either na unahin mo muna yung subs mo (example dq-12 approx around 6k)..tapos saka ka bumili ng bagong 9.2 (I also have a 2 year old baby but I always see to it na tolerable sa ears nung baby ko yung subs kapag nanonood kaming pamilya using our HT) or buy an 8.3 now and get the subs later (kaso for me bitin pa rin ito... malaki kasing factor yung subs lalo na kung HT ang pag-uusapan  ;))

Anyways, it's still your choice in the end no matter what.. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: odyopayl on Nov 17, 2004 at 08:45 AM
mga sars,

Using bose accoustimass as fronts for ht (2 cubes +1 bass module) for my ht setup at my room (along with yamaha 440 whc2 center and surrounds). Using my sony compo (big bookshelf speakers with stands) at the sala mostly for audio. Sony speakers definitely better than the bose but I don't have space for the sony speakers. Once I decide to buy 8.3 or 9.2 then I'll buy a video rack that will solve spacing problems. Not yet interested in buying a sub this year coz of my almost 2 year old baby boy (umiiyak sa malalalim na tunog at boses). Although it would be cheaper to just switch my sony speakers and bose speakers and just buy a nice rack i'm afflicted with sars (dahil sa inyo!). warfs ht setup lahat.

8.3 o 9.2?
Sir in my opinion, better get 9.2. You will never enjoy HT without sub even using 8.3, I'm sure bibili ka rin ng sub so better settle for the best from speakers na pang HT na pwede pa audio tested pa ng mga kapatid natin sa forum.
During my first time with HT i had experienced  8.3 and 8.4  so i can compare them with 9.2, malaki ang improvement, sa driver pa lang aluminum die cast na compared to 8.3 & 8.4 honestly, twice ako nagpapalit ng 8.3 dahil nagki-clip siya.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimosabe on Nov 17, 2004 at 09:12 AM
oy oy oy............... quite affordable yan sir ice! o ayan ha, you have the price quote, soon youll have your 13th or bonuses..... bili bili na mga katoto!  8)

I'll buy sana 9.1 or 9.2 for surround kaya lang kailangan unahin yung atraso ko sayo hayyyy next year na siguro.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 17, 2004 at 09:20 AM


I'll buy sana 9.1 or 9.2 for surround kaya lang kailangan unahin yung atraso ko sayo hayyyy next year na siguro.

Heheheh..okay lang yun pre..naka-jackpot ka naman dyan sa nakuha mo kay Sir wanderlust eh...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Chito C. on Nov 17, 2004 at 09:47 AM
Probably buy the 9.2.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 17, 2004 at 10:32 AM
Quote from: kimosabe
I'll buy sana 9.1 or 9.2 for surround kaya lang kailangan unahin yung atraso ko sayo hayyyy next year na siguro.

my bonus pa na parating sir..... 13th month mo p lang yan e. hehehe  >:D

Quote from: Control
Heheheh..okay lang yun pre..naka-jackpot ka naman dyan sa nakuha mo kay Sir wanderlust eh...

thnx sir. nanghihinayang pero masaya din since i know happy ang nakakuha and will take care of my precious pa..... nasa mabuting kamay ika nga.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 17, 2004 at 10:49 AM
Don't worry Sir..more than happy ka naman dun sa dynamic duo para sa 8.3 mo...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimosabe on Nov 17, 2004 at 12:01 PM


my bonus pa na parating sir..... 13th month mo p lang yan e. hehehe  >:D


Wala na rin yung bonus naibili na ng pre-amp  ;D

Quote
thnx sir. nanghihinayang pero masaya din since i know happy ang nakakuha and will take care of my precious pa..... nasa mabuting kamay ika nga.  ;D

Yup, i'm having so much fun with the speaker. Jackpot talaga.

Pero next project ko talaga yung 9.1 or 9.2 for surround (para hindi OT)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 17, 2004 at 12:21 PM
hehehe........ you mean the toott.... and chord combi ba pre? hehehe, d lang happy, humahanga pa kamo pre! matindi and tunog, kala mo d 8.3 gamit ko e.  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 17, 2004 at 12:25 PM
sir kimosabe,


d bale sir, happy k naman d ba  ;D ..... integrated o much better power amp na lng kulang sir audio haven na. pero maganda din yang plano mo sir na diamond 9s but if pang sorround lang much better (mas matipid) kong 9.1 lang......  still d best din 9.2, hehehehe..........  confused din ksi ako  :o
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 17, 2004 at 12:35 PM
sir kimosabe,


d bale sir, happy k naman d ba  ;D ..... integrated o much better power amp na lng kulang sir audio haven na. pero maganda din yang plano mo sir na diamond 9s but if pang sorround lang much better (mas matipid) kong 9.1 lang......  still d best din 9.2, hehehehe..........  confused din ksi ako  :o

Nyahahah...nabuko din kita Sir..kunwari ka pa na ayaw mo ng Wharf ha....  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimosabe on Nov 17, 2004 at 01:23 PM
Sir wanderlust mukang haping hapi ka sa 8.3 ha.

You know before the day na dalin namin sa bahay mo yung 8.3, i listen to it for the last time and maganda talagang tumunog, nagdalawang isip nga ako eh kung bebenta ko pa or not.  Anyway, mahalaga pareho tayong hapi  ;D after ng 9.1/9.2 project ko integrated amp naman  ;D gastos na naman  :'(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 17, 2004 at 01:32 PM
Guys,

ano na buy na ng 9 series... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Nov 17, 2004 at 01:34 PM
mga sars,

Using bose accoustimass as fronts for ht (2 cubes +1 bass module) for my ht setup at my room (along with yamaha 440 whc2 center and surrounds). Using my sony compo (big bookshelf speakers with  stands) at the sala mostly for audio. Sony speakers definitely better than the bose but I don't have space for the sony speakers. Once I decide to buy 8.3 or 9.2 then I'll buy a video rack that will solve spacing problems. Not yet interested in buying a sub this year coz of my almost 2 year old baby boy (umiiyak sa malalalim na tunog at boses). Although it would be cheaper to just switch my sony speakers and bose speakers and just buy a nice rack i'm afflicted with sars (dahil sa inyo!). warfs ht setup lahat.

8.3 o 9.2?

Sir,
kasi yung baby mas sensitive tenga nyan kaysa sa atin - so they know the good speakers - e umiyak, so kailangan palitan!  ;D I think your babe will hear the bass out of 9.2, only you have to sacrifice not hearing the bass yourself (sori bok, ganito daw talaga tayong matatand..) until your baby grow a little older - kinda mag equalize yung hearing nyo sa bass level - then you can convince him to buy the sub na!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 17, 2004 at 01:38 PM


Sir,
kasi yung baby mas sensitive tenga nyan kaysa sa atin - so they know the good speakers - e umiyak, so kailangan palitan!  ;D I think your babe will hear the bass out of 9.2, only you have to sacrifice not hearing the bass yourself (sori bok, ganito daw talaga tayong matatand..) until your baby grow a little older - kinda mag equalize yung hearing nyo sa bass level - then you can convince him to buy the sub na!  ;D


Aray ko.. aging!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 17, 2004 at 04:50 PM
naku po, kailan pa yon! hehehe. pag nasa 20s na si baby ba? e that would be 18 years from now.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 17, 2004 at 04:54 PM
Quote
Sir wanderlust mukang haping hapi ka sa 8.3 ha.

You know before the day na dalin namin sa bahay mo yung 8.3, i listen to it for the last time and maganda talagang tumunog, nagdalawang isip nga ako eh kung bebenta ko pa or not.  Anyway, mahalaga pareho tayong hapi  after ng 9.1/9.2 project ko integrated amp naman  gastos na naman


oo naman sir, basta everybody happy ayos yon.....   kailan kaya dadating rose wood na 9.4  ???   >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Chito C. on Nov 17, 2004 at 04:55 PM
pwede na siguro next year (sw-150)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: BuLLeT on Nov 17, 2004 at 10:18 PM
Chief Ice,

Kumusta naman performance ng sub ng Wharf in terms of LFEs sa movies? Plan ko kasi kumuha para sa bedroom and medium size ung room and to be paired sa JBL LX 2004 floorstanders and to be driven by HK 35550.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iceman90a on Nov 18, 2004 at 06:52 AM
Chief Ice,

Kumusta naman performance ng sub ng Wharf in terms of LFEs sa movies? Plan ko kasi kumuha para sa bedroom and medium size ung room and to be paired sa JBL LX 2004 floorstanders and to be driven by HK 35550.

Thanks.

my uncle's sala was 14 feet x 16 feet, with the left side opening to the main hall of the house..

the sub was able to pressurize the room with low bass, level setting was not even half the max volume yet. we tried it with several movies and it was ok...

i havent listened to it again since last weekend though, might have to go back after a few months to reset channel levels after the speakers and sub break in
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hunnyko on Nov 18, 2004 at 11:10 AM
Hello there DVD Gurus I'm really new here at pdvd and I would like to have
a HT setup with diamond 9s:

9.3 (front)
9.CS (center)
9.1 (surround)
9.SW150 (sub)

Has anyone of you tried or auditioned diamond 9.3?  I'm also looking for a 6.1 channel receiver that
would fit to above speakers. Any suggestions my budget for the receiver is around ~20k.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Nov 18, 2004 at 11:19 AM
my choice of receiver if you intend to purchase those diamond 9s is either yamaha or harman kardon.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 18, 2004 at 11:38 AM
Hello there DVD Gurus I'm really new here at pdvd and I would like to have
a HT setup with diamond 9s:

9.3 (front)
9.CS (center)
9.1 (surround)
9.SW150 (sub)

Has anyone of you tried or auditioned diamond 9.3?  I'm also looking for a 6.1 channel receiver that
would fit to above speakers. Any suggestions my budget for the receiver is around ~20k.

Cheers.

Sir, much better if you could stretch your budget a little further..
For 60HT/40 Audio Setup, I recommend Yamaha.. rx-v650 (7.1) approx 25k
For 50HT/50 Audio Setup, I recommend HK .. maybe 230 or lower approx 25k
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 18, 2004 at 11:53 AM
I'd get an HK, though Yamaha does have nice DSP features for movie viewing.  Are there no recommendations for NAD + Diamonds?  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Chito C. on Nov 18, 2004 at 12:07 PM
wala bang reviews ng 9.3?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 18, 2004 at 01:16 PM
I'd get an HK, though Yamaha does have nice DSP features for movie viewing.  Are there no recommendations for NAD + Diamonds?  ;D

NAD + Wharf... IMHO minsan muddy sound and roll off yun high NAD kasi warm same as Wharf. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 18, 2004 at 04:19 PM
HK all the way.... but its just me thought and i own a yamaha avr  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Nov 18, 2004 at 06:12 PM
I have to hear both and keep an open mind & common (hearing) sense to make the selection!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hunnyko on Nov 19, 2004 at 07:01 AM
I've read some of the specs of HK and YAMAHA and they are rated at 8ohms, is it ok to pair
them to wharfs diamond 9s which are rated at only 6ohms?  What would be the effect on its power?
Or should I get a reciever with a rating of 6ohms?

Cheers
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 19, 2004 at 07:08 AM
I've read some of the specs of HK and YAMAHA and they are rated at 8ohms, is it ok to pair
them to wharfs diamond 9s which are rated at only 6ohms?  What would be the effect on its power?
Or should I get a reciever with a rating of 6ohms?

Cheers

both HK and Yamaha are good for Wharfs...  ;)
HK + Wharf = 50% Audio/ 50% HT
Yamaha + Wharf = 40% Audio/ 60% HT

Note: Wharfedale Speakers are compatible with any 8 Ohm amplifier output (Taken from wharfedale site)  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 19, 2004 at 11:34 AM
sir hunnyko,

there will be no ill effect when pairing a 6ohms speaker to an 8ohms amp/avr, vice versa.

actually it is within the safe zone, i dont know about the other yamaha models, but mine has this switch at the back for ohms selection, and in one of the switches there is printed (6ohms-8ohms), what im trying to drive at sir is that the 6 or 8 ohms rating is not really a mandatory requirement as this equipment are expected to handle, 6, 8, 16 ohms load (amp/avr), while speakers though rated at 6 or 8 ohms ideally operates within the 6 to 8 ohms zone.

a word of caution however, there are power hungry speakers out there with  ratings of 4ohm or lower, with this type of speakers, you need to have amps/avrs which specifically are rated to handle 4ohms load or lower, otherwise you will run the risk of over loading the amp/avr.

hope i have been of assistance.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ADM202E on Nov 19, 2004 at 03:10 PM
Guys,  magkano ba sa market ang 9 series? Thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Nov 19, 2004 at 03:36 PM
Quote from: ADM202E
Guys,  magkano ba sa market ang 9 series? Thanks

it ranges from 5.5k to 15k
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 19, 2004 at 03:53 PM
previous post sir will reveal the exact pricing for each diamond 9 series.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 22, 2004 at 05:38 PM
Guys,

Any siting of BRown colors of 9 series??
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: james16 on Nov 22, 2004 at 06:32 PM
Guys,

Any siting of BRown colors of 9 series??

sana madinig ko din yan one of these days....  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 22, 2004 at 06:37 PM


sana madinig ko din yan one of these days....  ;D

Malay mo sir this SAt.. ;D ;D ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: james16 on Nov 22, 2004 at 06:40 PM


Malay mo sir this SAt.. ;D ;D ::) ::) ::)

heheheh, ayos yan....  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: j_albert22 on Nov 22, 2004 at 08:53 PM


heheheh, ayos yan....  ;D

yong usher mo dalhin mo na wag ka nang magpatumpik tumpik pa  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: james16 on Nov 22, 2004 at 09:22 PM


yong usher mo dalhin mo na wag ka nang magpatumpik tumpik pa  ;D ;D


hehehehe, you ha!!!!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 23, 2004 at 06:49 AM


yong usher mo dalhin mo na wag ka nang magpatumpik tumpik pa  ;D ;D

Ayan yan Sir! Parang ang laki yata nung Usher ni Sir James..  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 23, 2004 at 08:45 AM
Control,

Don't worry about James yakang yaka nya yan..  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 23, 2004 at 04:04 PM
Guys,

Wala pa din Brown color ng Diamond 9 hay...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: cybermms on Nov 23, 2004 at 08:47 PM
Diamond 8's are here to stay!

They are still listed in Stereophile's 2005 Buyer's Guide side by side with Diamond 9's.

Wharfedale now has a Xmas offer for 8.3 and 8.4 exclusive to pinoydvd members. They will raffle a set of DFS8 + Center and 8.1 + Center for every group of 8 members buying the 8.3 and 8.4, respectively. (Check out the Asst Buy and Sell for more details). They are not reducing the price - they just want to thank their loyal followers from the pinoydvd community.

It will be the 8's vs. the 9's competing.The 9.1 and the SW150 already bagged What HI-Fi?'s product of the year in their respective categories. It will be a very exciting match-up between 2 siblings.

cyber
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: saltuhin on Nov 23, 2004 at 11:17 PM
hello to all members. newbie lng po ako dito sa pinoydvd but I was a long time reader of your forums. It was with those readings that influenced me to try the diamond 9 series of speakers. Recently I bought the 9.5 and 9cs paired with a Yamaha rxv 440,  dtx 4.15 sub and bose 301 s4 for my surrounds. I was really impressed with the 9.5s because of the good bass response as compared with my 301s. All I can say is that I am satisfied with the wharfs and also considering upgrading my surrounds with 9.2s.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Nov 24, 2004 at 06:29 AM
hello to all members. newbie lng po ako dito sa pinoydvd but I was a long time reader of your forums. It was with those readings that influenced me to try the diamond 9 series of speakers. Recently I bought the 9.5 and 9cs paired with a Yamaha rxv 440,  dtx 4.15 sub and bose 301 s4 for my surrounds. I was really impressed with the 9.5s because of the good bass response as compared with my 301s. All I can say is that I am satisfied with the wharfs and also considering upgrading my surrounds with 9.2s.

WOW Sir, 9.2 for surrounds lang..ayos yan Sir!  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bebot santos on Nov 24, 2004 at 10:43 PM
I went to parksquare to hear the 9 series, mejo kulang sa high, more on bass ang series, kinumpara ko sya sa m773 ng mission ang layo ng dating. (sempre mahal un mission) pero truly nde ako naligayahan sa 9 series.
Just my impression sempre un buyer pa rin ang masusunod :o
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: synchro on Nov 25, 2004 at 08:53 AM
I went to parksquare to hear the 9 series, mejo kulang sa high, more on bass ang series,

bebot santos

bro we have the same impressions on the Wharfe's.  been considering a pair of bookshelves from the Wharf line for the longest time already but everytime I audition it I find it to be "ngo-ngo" or pinched sounding lalo na vocals ng male which always makes me think twice in purchasing it.  8 series and 9 series pareho ang shortcomings. bass is a strong point in both the 8 and 9 series but both models are still lacking in the midband . even if you dial up a treble boost parang may kulang pa rin.  I dont know if its just me, the associated gears used in the audition, the room etc etc.  One thing I do know is that the price is very tantalizing to say the least.  where else can you get an imported "UK based" monster floorstander for less than Php15T?  :) 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jerix on Nov 25, 2004 at 10:13 AM
i can notice the ambivalence of opinions with regard to the sound quality of the wharf in either the 8 or 9 series ...

Di kaya ito just a case of equipment mismatch or the influence of the listening environment

Maybe in our review, if it possible to mention the equipment used with the speakers or the description of the listening environment, i think it would be best... because when two or more people will make a similar comment on similar conditions or environment, there is a bigger percentage of truth.. ;)

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: synchro on Nov 25, 2004 at 10:51 AM
jerix

heard both the 8 and 9 series in a friend's house (fan sya ng wharfs...he has both models). his room is untreated w/ the normal furnishings that you will find sa bahay like sofas, rug, curtains, center tables etc.

gear associated w/ the audition:

Onkyo A/V receiver
Philips DVD player
Digital cable: Puresonic
interconnects: VDH
speaker cales: generic 12 gauge from Listening room.

one time we tried using the Diamond 8 and 9 bookshelves with a Yamaha 150 watt x 2 power amp connected to the main out of the Onkyo. the output became slightly higher with more punch in the low end but the highs didnt improve a bit. parang may takip yung tweeter.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 25, 2004 at 10:57 AM

Maybe in our review, if it possible to mention the equipment used with the speakers or the description of the listening environment, i think it would be best... because when two or more people will make a similar comment on similar conditions or environment, there is a bigger percentage of truth.. ;)



Must indicate the genre of music source used.  Most techno pop music have a lot of synthesizer music containing signals even above 20khz and highly compressed so that any tweeter is challenged.  OTH, classical quartet or quintet ensemble music contain nothing fundamental above 12khz. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mYKi on Nov 25, 2004 at 10:59 AM
I too owned the Diamond 8's for a few months connected to a Marantz receiver and I have to agree that it lacked the midband and it lacked details at the top end. However, it sounded great and Wharfedale's got me started into this hobby.

In my review of the Diamond 9's earlier in this thread, I listened to it connected to a NAD C542 and an HK amplifier. I had the same findings that it lacked detail. Para ngang may cover yung speaker.

Kaso we can't compare these with speakers like B&W, Monitor Audio, Dynaudio because all of these are 3 to 5 times more expensive.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Nov 25, 2004 at 11:13 AM
I heard wharf and pioneer combo - they are far better than the wharf/yamaha combo. Am not satisfied as well when I auditioned HK/Denon with wharf.

I have not heard Onkyo/Marantz but have a gut-feel that onkyo/marantz (traditionally laidback amps) may not fit the performance of wharf (dull or accurate speakers). I maybe wrong.

My GC powers the 8.3. My only complaint is the high - somehow bitin for me. My 630 treble control didnt help even a little. I will try a quick tweak to the cross-over to boost the high a bit. If the tweak is correct and it improved a little, will report back here.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 25, 2004 at 11:33 AM
jerix

heard both the 8 and 9 series in a friend's house (fan sya ng wharfs...he has both models). his room is untreated w/ the normal furnishings that you will find sa bahay like sofas, rug, curtains, center tables etc.

gear associated w/ the audition:

Onkyo A/V receiver
Philips DVD player
Digital cable: Puresonic
interconnects: VDH
speaker cales: generic 12 gauge from Listening room.

one time we tried using the Diamond 8 and 9 bookshelves with a Yamaha 150 watt x 2 power amp connected to the main out of the Onkyo. the output became slightly higher with more punch in the low end but the highs didnt improve a bit. parang may takip yung tweeter.


I personally felt the highs and the details liberated when I shifted from wharfe to Mordaunt about 18 months ago.  And they're not really that far in price points.  But I attribute that perception more to my age.  ;D  I guess at 40 something,  I'm in that group who can't hear anything above 17khz as well as when younger.   So a relatively brighter and more detailed speaker is most welcome.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: synchro on Nov 25, 2004 at 11:49 AM
mYKi

hehe akala ko ako lang nakaka-notice e kasi para wala akong nababasa na shortcomings sa thread na ito yun pala madami ding nakakapansin na ngo-ngo tumunog yung wharfs.  bro I think its a problem with the crossover kasi yung drivers naman look up to the challenge e (from the looks of it at least).  syempre we have to also bear in mind that comparing the wharfs to speakers costing so much more isnt fair at all pero lets say you pit the 9.4 floorstanders against say a bookshelf B&W 3 series (same price point as the 9.4's) what speaker will you ultimately choose to live with for the next year or so until you upgrade? what speaker will give you more enjoyment everytime you listen to it? for me hands down it would be the B&W coz im more into the midband...its the meat of the music...the filling of a pie...to hell with the bass hehe.  
Maybe the appeal of the Wharfs is only the bang for the buck aspect.  such handsome and imposing speakers or so little money but they eventually cut some corners to arrive at that price.  kaya ako bro di ako naniniwala dyan sa mga speaker of the year award award na yan e...iba pa rin yung personal audition.

sorry sa mga present owners ng wharfs kung na-offend kayo pero syempre we have to talk about the positives and negatives too for the enlightenment of future buyers. Hindi naman pwede yung puro good points na lang ang pag-uusapan everytime may bagong labas na model ng speakers di ba?  peace bros  O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on Nov 25, 2004 at 12:17 PM


Hi Letor,

I have an 8.1 and was able to listen to 9.1 at sights and sounds (Shangrila).  Based on my few minutes of listening to the 9.1, the most noticable difference between the two is in the bass region.  The 9.1 has more bass than the 8.1.  The mid and high section is almost the same.  Maybe the 9.0 will be equivalent to the 8.1 (haven't listened to the 9.0 though) but the 9.1 is, for me, better than 8.1.  To add to that, the 9.1 is already product of the year sa What HiFi magazine.  Now, I'm seriously considering the 9.1 as against to my earlier preference, the 9.6 >:( >:( Just my opinion.

losi_phile


hi losi_phile,

Pahabol question -- Mayron din ako ng 8.1, yung 9.1 ba sounds open as the 8.1? Kasi though mas okay ang bass region ng 9.1 as what you say but does the sound stage and openess is similar to the 8's?

Just like in my own observation between the 8.1 and 8.4 ...Surely 8.4 has plenty of low bass but in the mid section, the 8.1 sounds forward and has fuller or warmer vocal sounds. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iceman90a on Nov 25, 2004 at 12:18 PM
i'm sure no offense is meant and none is taken when we post our individual reviews here. after all we're not being paid to do so di ba? its all about sharing and helping the next buyer make an informed decision...

just a word of warning - we get what we pay for ;D

when i went for the diamond 9's for my Tito's HT set-up - the following were the considerations:
1. Price
2. use (just for HT)
3. he might be setting up an audio only room as well
4. compatibility with equipment to be used
5. again with Price (had he given me a bigger budget, i might have went with another brand)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jerix on Nov 25, 2004 at 12:22 PM
To those who already have the wharf 9, di pa naman huli--- similar to the case of the 8 series, maybe these babies need to be tweaked ;)

Calling diy_master and Nirvblakr the master tweakers --  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 25, 2004 at 12:30 PM
mYKi

hehe akala ko ako lang nakaka-notice e kasi para wala akong nababasa na shortcomings sa thread na ito yun pala madami ding nakakapansin na ngo-ngo tumunog yung wharfs.  bro I think its a problem with the crossover kasi yung drivers naman look up to the challenge e (from the looks of it at least).  syempre we have to also bear in mind that comparing the wharfs to speakers costing so much more isnt fair at all pero lets say you pit the 9.4 floorstanders against say a bookshelf B&W 3 series (same price point as the 9.4's) what speaker will you ultimately choose to live with for the next year or so until you upgrade? what speaker will give you more enjoyment everytime you listen to it? for me hands down it would be the B&W coz im more into the midband...its the meat of the music...the filling of a pie...to hell with the bass hehe.  
Maybe the appeal of the Wharfs is only the bang for the buck aspect.  such handsome and imposing speakers or so little money but they eventually cut some corners to arrive at that price.  kaya ako bro di ako naniniwala dyan sa mga speaker of the year award award na yan e...iba pa rin yung personal audition.

sorry sa mga present owners ng wharfs kung na-offend kayo pero syempre we have to talk about the positives and negatives too for the enlightenment of future buyers. Hindi naman pwede yung puro good points na lang ang pag-uusapan everytime may bagong labas na model ng speakers di ba?  peace bros  O0

No problem with a balanced set of perceptions.  Even those consumer reviews on eccoustics and other audio consumer review sites have a mix of reactions on any model.  Just goes to show that no single product can satisfy everyone.  Even those expensive B&Ws have their naysayers as well. 

I tend to agree that wharfe may have compromised more to bring its price down.  I recall reading some posts in the diamond 8 thread early last year about tweaks made on the crossover network that improved the highs.  Maybe the new owners can benefit from revisiting those posts.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on Nov 25, 2004 at 12:31 PM
Try the wharf speakers with the Rotel amp...its worth testing.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Nov 25, 2004 at 12:33 PM
Bros,

I all of your views has merit... here are some considerations:

1.) Audition condition
2.) Speakers are not broken-in
3.) MATCHING (with empahsis)

I have an 8.3 and at first... i consider it also as ngo-ngo... lack on detail... rolled-off highs... that was my 1st setup.  As it evolves...  cdp... speaker cables... ic... speaker placing... etc... i must say that my audio experience is now totally different.  I've been a believer of MATCHING after my experience.

Its all about MATCHING.

Goodluck on your matching expedition.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: synchro on Nov 25, 2004 at 12:38 PM
Letor

wharf and rotel?  para yatang magkaibang league na yun bro.   ???

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Nov 25, 2004 at 12:40 PM
Bros,

I all of your views has merit... here are some considerations:

1.) Audition condition
2.) Speakers are not broken-in
3.) MATCHING (with empahsis)

I have an 8.3 and at first... i consider it also as ngo-ngo... lack on detail... rolled-off highs... that was my 1st setup.  As it evolves...  cdp... speaker cables... ic... speaker placing... etc... i must say that my audio experience is now totally different.  I've been a believer of MATCHING after my experience.

Its all about MATCHING.

Goodluck on your matching expedition.

Alin sir, sa "Matching" ka ba naniniwala o sa "Matsing"  ;D ;D



Bakit kaya nae-extend ang high and lumilinaw yung mids ng wharf kung sa tube amp naka-kabit? ::) ::) Hmmmmmm makes me wonder......... Bakit kaya? ::) >:D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Nov 25, 2004 at 12:41 PM
Pre,

Ang ibig sabihin non... hindi SPEAKER ang may problema!  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Nov 25, 2004 at 12:43 PM
Pre,

Ang ibig sabihin non... hindi SPEAKER ang may problema!  ;D  ;D  ;D

Nice one, Preng slayer!!!!.......  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Nov 25, 2004 at 12:49 PM
Pero i must admin... pangit talaga ng enclosure ng diamond 8... which is not the case on the 9s.  Masadyo malakas ang resonate ng enclosure ng 8... so you really have to do treatment. Which reminds me... hindi ko parin na sa-sandfill yung 8.3 ko... matagal ko nang plano ito.  :-\
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 25, 2004 at 12:51 PM
Letor

wharf and rotel?  para yatang magkaibang league na yun bro.   ???



True, but I personally don't see a problem.  Let's not be restricted to price range categorization.   ;D

Even a Dai-ichi + Krell combo is fine if that's what makes the listener happy.   ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 25, 2004 at 12:56 PM
Pero i must admin... pangit talaga ng enclosure ng diamond 8... which is not the case on the 9s.  Masadyo malakas ang resonate ng enclosure ng 8... so you really have to do treatment. Which reminds me... hindi ko parin na sa-sandfill yung 8.3 ko... matagal ko nang plano ito.  :-\

The Diamond 9's non-rectangular cross-section, shared with the Pacific Evolution line, does provide less internal standing waves to backload the woofer, so I can expect a more relaxed bass excursion.  They seem to have more promise after a tweak. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 25, 2004 at 12:56 PM
i too have the same impression of the wharfes before, ngo-ngo. had an 8.1 dint was able to use an 8.4, was really unimpressed until just lately, when, i had a chance again to use an 8.3.

at first it was all the same (ngo2x and weak bass which tend to sound boomy), thought the previous owner had it for 6 months or so, i could see that it was not fully broken-in as yet. so after a few session with the magic cd and the xlo burn-in cd, it opened up a bit, from then on my impression totally changed! now with the addition of new speaker cables (bi-wiring) and some other improvements on my system, i had a hard time letting go of it.... well if its not of k0yas persistence i wouldnt have let go of it, well maybe except for chito.... of course.


added note: i had it only for the sole purpose of selling it latter on, a transistion period until i found a new floorstander that would tickle my fancy, what happened was that the 8.3 was the one who tickled my fancy instead. hay... sabi nga lagi ng isang guru: "kung ano pang maganda sya pang nawawala sayo, d bale happy naman sila. share the experience nalang"

ill miss my 8.3.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Nov 25, 2004 at 01:02 PM
i too have the same impression of the wharfes before, ngo-ngo. had an 8.1 dint was able to use an 8.4, was really unimpressed until just lately, when, i had a chance again to use an 8.3.

at first it was all the same (ngo2x and weak bass which tend to sound boomy), thought the previous owner had it for 6 months or so, i could see that it was not fully broken-in as yet. so after a few session with the magic cd and the xlo burn-in cd, it opened up a bit, from then on my impression totally changed! now with the addition of new speaker cables (bi-wiring) and some other improvements on my system, i had a hard time letting go of it.... well if its not of k0yas persistence i wouldnt have let go of it, well maybe except for chito.... of course.


added note: i had it only for the sole purpose of selling it latter on, a transistion period until i found a new floorstander that would tickle my fancy, what happened was that the 8.3 was the one who tickled my fancy instead. hay... sabi nga lagi ng isang guru: "kung ano pang maganda sya pang nawawala sayo, d bale happy naman sila. share the experience nalang"

ill miss my 8.3.

Hay................. ang isda nga naman ika nga nila nahuhuli sa sariling bibig.  Tama pala yung bubwit ko.  ;D Ahehehehehe.....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Nov 25, 2004 at 01:16 PM
Bili na ng Diamond 9.4 tapos 4 years break-in period ulit! Ahehehehe...   ;D  ;D  ;D

i too have the same impression of the wharfes before, ngo-ngo. had an 8.1 dint was able to use an 8.4, was really unimpressed until just lately, when, i had a chance again to use an 8.3.

at first it was all the same (ngo2x and weak bass which tend to sound boomy), thought the previous owner had it for 6 months or so, i could see that it was not fully broken-in as yet. so after a few session with the magic cd and the xlo burn-in cd, it opened up a bit, from then on my impression totally changed! now with the addition of new speaker cables (bi-wiring) and some other improvements on my system, i had a hard time letting go of it.... well if its not of k0yas persistence i wouldnt have let go of it, well maybe except for chito.... of course.


added note: i had it only for the sole purpose of selling it latter on, a transistion period until i found a new floorstander that would tickle my fancy, what happened was that the 8.3 was the one who tickled my fancy instead. hay... sabi nga lagi ng isang guru: "kung ano pang maganda sya pang nawawala sayo, d bale happy naman sila. share the experience nalang"

ill miss my 8.3.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: garee on Nov 25, 2004 at 01:31 PM
considering ht and audio applications, which is best for keeps : 8.3 or 9.2?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Nov 25, 2004 at 01:35 PM
8.3 is a floorstander... 9.2 is a bookshelf... if you don't have a sub and you need more bass, go with the floorstander.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on Nov 25, 2004 at 02:29 PM
Letor

wharf and rotel?  para yatang magkaibang league na yun bro.   ???


You're right, but it doesn't mean that when you have a pricey amplifier you'll have to pair it with a pricey speaker. Pricey speakers doesn't always guarantee a good match with the amplifier.  Properly matched amp + speakers promises a good sounding audio system.  The price of the speaker does not tell how it sounds.  Another important factor is personal perception and taste of what a good sound is.

I do agree with av_phile on his comment in this issue.

Actually my audio only set-up is an 8.1 wharf and a plain stereo Rotel Amplifier and a CD player. To back the low frequency defficiency of the bookshelf speaker, I added powered sub to handle lower notes. Since the rotel has a high damping factor, it has no problem driving the 8.1 speakers in whatever resulting impedance of the speaker at different audio frequency. And I believe that sonically they are matched.

Lately I have read in a hi-fi magazine comparison of tandem - wharf & rotel beat the sound of marantz paired with a match speaker system of the same company.  This confirms my perception that they are sonically matched.

     
 

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Nov 25, 2004 at 02:36 PM
LETOR,

You hit it right!  Rotel and Wharf is a match.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on Nov 25, 2004 at 02:52 PM
LETOR,

You hit it right!  Rotel and Wharf is a match.  ;D
hindi pala ako nag iisa....

thanks slayer
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jcob on Nov 25, 2004 at 04:22 PM
IMHO, For HT wharfedale has a very high price/performance ratio.

For Audio, I've yet to hear an amp that will make my 8.3 sing (really sing).

cheers...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: garee on Nov 25, 2004 at 04:37 PM
Rotel and Wharf is a match.  ;D

that is for audio.
how about HT? any recommendation on what receiver will be best match with this wharf?

matching, matching   ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Nov 25, 2004 at 04:41 PM
Yammy and HK as i've experienced.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Nov 25, 2004 at 04:47 PM

how about HT? any recommendation on what receiver will be best match with this wharf?

matching, matching   ;D

for HT, my take would be for either HK or Yammy.  I myself use a wharf/yammy system for ht. Try to steer away from denons as i had a very bad experence with such combi.  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: james16 on Nov 25, 2004 at 07:34 PM
Audtion is the best.... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 25, 2004 at 08:48 PM
Agree that Diamonds 8 and 9 is kinda rolled off but for me MATCHING it with a good SS amp (with power) or Tube amp will give other brand run for there money.

A friend owned a 8.3 and Yamaha (surplus) amp and he complain that his 8.3 is kinda bright ;D..  just today got wanderlust 8.3 and paired it with a Denon Integrated amp ( Surplus ) and did not notice the shortcoming of its highs and mids.. na brightan pa ako konti. ;D ;D

7 to 10 Guys home auditioned 9.2 and 9.4 out of the box sounded very very awful but after 3 to 4 hours of listening and hook up with Sir Audioslave Consonance M99 we didn't notice its shortcoming and not ngo ngo yun sound.. hehehehe ;D ;D

Guys ito pala review in Sir audioslave of his m99.. btw we used Diamond 9.2 and 9.4  ;D ;D

Quote
I'm not an avid fan of tube-equipped gears until I auditioned the Consonance m99plus integrated tube amp. Tube amps are misconceived as expensive pieces of equipment and are available only to a privileged and moneyed audiophiles. Inasmuch as this amp had been mass-produced in China, they are reasonably priced to afford tube newbies like me to explore and experience the wonderfully magical sound of tubes. Thus, owning this competitively priced tube amp, sporting the Consonance brand, adds pride of ownership and brings tube quality sound within the budget of almost every music lover.

My sudden swing of preference and growing interest to tube amps was the result of my latest conclusion that CD sound can never approximate the analog sound of the resurrected vinyls. Be that as it may, a tube amp can nonetheless, give life to the clinical and harsh sound of most CD players, which can often sound smoother and more musical when played through a tube amplifier. This premise goes without saying that tube amps are the better amps if compared to solid state amps but since my musical preference is now leaning towards the quieter genre and more relaxing music, it necessarily follows that I have to follow the route that would put me closer to the music. Gone are the days when I crave for the slam-bang and kick-ass bass of a solid state amp. Now, my aural experience begins when I listen to the more soothing sound of tubes that occasionally brings shivers to the bone and spine-tingling sensation when playing some of my favorite CD tracks.

The m99plus features 4 Shuguang 6P3P output tubes (which can be replaced by 6L6s, KT-66s and 5881s), 2 Shuguang 6N8P driver tubes (which can be replaced by 6SN7s and VT-231s), 2 Electro-Harmonix 12AX7EH pre-amp tubes configured in a SRPP circuitry, 3 toroidal transformers, 3 gold plated line inputs, large high quality gold plated 5-way speaker binding posts in 8 ohms and 4 ohms tap, all housed in a massive metal chassis with wooded side panels, weighing almost 18 Kgs. The m99plus is a solid-state rectified amp and equipped with a solidly-built remote control allowing you to adjust the volume.

After almost 1 month of breaking-in, the transformers may have already settled down and are now bringing out the best sound they can get. The bass is fuller, the mids warmer and sweeter but the highs needs further extension and relatively rolled-off without much air. I went to the boondocks to test my amp with the new Wharfedales Diamond 9.2 and 9.4 which were loaned on home audition by Spectra Audio Video to hans adriene. Using a turn table as the source, the amp can easily cope up with fast beat music playing some tracks from the album of the Queen and The Cure without muddling the sound and faithfully bringing out each instrumentation with clarity and detail. Playing around with 6sn7s and 12ax7s spare tubes of some fellow members, we tried tube rolling different tubes to get a combination that would give a better sound. First, we tried changing the stock Shuguang 6N8P driver tubes to Sylvania 6SN7GTB. Remarkably, the amp began to breathe with so much atmosphere and seemingly unrestricted airiness. The soundstage simply became so expansive with dramatic improvement in the high frequency extension. Then we plugged RCA 6SN7GTBs and still obtained a similarly desirable sound than that offered by the stock Chinese tubes but the Sylvania 6SN7GTBs have smoother highs and better soundstage. We did try replacing the Electro-Harmonix 12ax7s with Telefunken 12ax7s and retained the RCA 6SN7GTBs as driver tubes - the result was, I guessed, the most optimal sound the m99+ can muster. Changing the RCA 6SN7GTBs with Sylvania 6SN7GTBs at the driver stage and retaining the Telefunkens on the linestage is a bit overkill and would somewhat give a hint of sibilance playing some Jeena Lodwick tracks. All these tubes were tried with the new Wharfedale Diamond 9.2 speakers bi-wired to the amp using XLO ER-14 and XLO PRO650F.

The amp became more imposing when hooked to kimpao's AMX tube pre-amp tweaked by no less than the emerging tweak master - JojoD. The m99+ with an active tube pre-amp is a tough act to follow as they jointly stirred up so much bloom and ambience. Even fingertip-friction sounds of the guitars can be heard with similar likeness. The sonic improvement conveyed by the pre-amp is like getting the singer closer to the audience, thus, bringing more life to the music.

With better tubes plugged to a good amp like m99+, the Wharfedale Diamond 9.2s suddenly became an instant hit among the listeners. In fact, the 9.2s are preferred over the 9.4s by many since the floorstander would sound boxy and sometimes boomy. One lesson learned is that - spending so much on speakers is not at all necessary as long as you have a good tube amp like the m99+.

Associated Equipment:

Yamaha CD Player
Technics Turn Table
AMX ConTodo MkII Pre-amp
XLO Pro650F
XLO ER14
DIY silver wire interconnects
Wharfedale Diamond 9.2s and 9.4s
Kaya MATCHING talaga  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: saltuhin on Nov 25, 2004 at 09:33 PM
I cant help but react to the things that are being put in this thread but if you consider the PRICE of these speakers you can honestly say that you get what you paid for. Before I was able to choose these speakers, I auditioned Kef and AE Evo, both were better sounding speakers, but both were also 4x and twice more expensive.It just figures that you cant expect the best performance from such low priced gear but it gets the job done.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Nov 25, 2004 at 10:18 PM
Kiko MATCHING,

Ikaw pala nakakuha ng 8.3 ni wanderlust.  ;D Pang ilang Wharfedale mo na yan ha!  :o

Kuya Bodgie

Agree that Diamonds 8 and 9 is kinda rolled off but for me MATCHING it with a good SS amp (with power) or Tube amp will give other brand run for there money.

A friend owned a 8.3 and Yamaha (surplus) amp and he complain that his 8.3 is kinda bright ;D..  just today got wanderlust 8.3 and paired it with a Denon Integrated amp ( Surplus ) and did not notice the shortcoming of its highs and mids.. na brightan pa ako konti. ;D ;D

7 to 10 Guys home auditioned 9.2 and 9.4 out of the box sounded very very awful but after 3 to 4 hours of listening and hook up with Sir Audioslave Consonance M99 we didn't notice its shortcoming and not ngo ngo yun sound.. hehehehe ;D ;D

Guys ito pala review in Sir audioslave of his m99.. btw we used Diamond 9.2 and 9.4  ;D ;D


Kaya MATCHING talaga  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 26, 2004 at 08:42 AM
Kiko MATCHING,

Ikaw pala nakakuha ng 8.3 ni wanderlust.  ;D Pang ilang Wharfedale mo na yan ha!  :o

Kuya Bodgie


3rd na ito pre.. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Nov 26, 2004 at 09:17 AM
I'm also a Diamond 8 user. Yesterday, i tried bi-wiring my 8.3 using the lucent (silver wire) in the HIGH input and XLO ER-14 in the LOW input of the speaker. The sound became more appreciable.... bumuo yung sound nya...... i can say that the highs were extended..... Hindi nakakapagod pakinggan tunog ng system ko ngayon kasi MATCH na silang lahat ;D

Fish to ALL ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aeioun on Nov 26, 2004 at 09:52 AM
sir hans,

you got pm..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mYKi on Nov 26, 2004 at 10:08 AM
I would have to agree that Rotel and Wharfedale would be a good combination. Maybe a Rotel RA-02 and RCD-02 will bring out the best in Wharfedale.

Marantz is a bit laid back and warm sounding so it will even emphasize the lacking top-end of the Diamonds.

I wouldn't recommend it with an inexpensive Pioneer since this is what I had before. It sounded bright and lacked dynamics.

Also, a friend of mine says that Wharfedale still manufactures speakers at their U.K. factory as well as in China. The ones that we have locally are the ones from China. But the ones made in U.K. are for Europe and probably the U.S. Does anyone have info on this or better yet, a link to an article? It is possible that there is a difference in sound and build quality between the 2 factories.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 26, 2004 at 10:23 AM
Also, a friend of mine says that Wharfedale still manufactures speakers at their U.K. factory as well as in China. The ones that we have locally are the ones from China. But the ones made in U.K. are for Europe and probably the U.S. Does anyone have info on this or better yet, a link to an article? It is possible that there is a difference in sound and build quality between the 2 factories.

sir, the diamonds being sold by amazon and other online shops are internally wired w/ monster cable. me sticker (?) sa likod that says so.

yung dito yata wala? tama po ba ako?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Nov 26, 2004 at 10:36 AM
Im also intrigue in those UK manufactured Wharfedale speakers as they've been awarded as Speaker of Year 2004. Has anyone you know owns this kind of speaker and maybe we can compare with China made ones?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 26, 2004 at 10:46 AM
You can always change the internal wires.  That's what many discover after using expensive van den hull, XLO and other branded cables between their amps and speakers.  The last leg between the voice coil and the terminals inside the speaker cabinet is just your hardware variety 14gauge wire, totally nullifying whatever benefits they get from those branded cables. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 26, 2004 at 10:51 AM
Im also intrigue in those UK manufactured Wharfedale speakers as they've been awarded as Speaker of Year 2004. Has anyone you know owns this kind of speaker and maybe we can compare with China made ones?

Those offshore manufacturing and assembly plants of many British and American brands are often supervized by expats and with quality control standards that are no less strict as from those made in the homelands.  Even most of the parts come from their homelands.  They only take advantage of the low labor and overhead costs in China.  So you have much lower SRPs for the markets around China.  The quality is said to be the same. 

I too would be interested if someone can get his hands on two identical models, one made in UK and the other in China, for a comparative review. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 26, 2004 at 11:30 AM
Quote from: kimpao
Hay................. ang isda nga naman ika nga nila nahuhuli sa sariling bibig.  Tama pala yung bubwit ko.   Ahehehehehe.....

bakit sir ala naman akong tinatago e. hehehe.

i plead: not guilty your honor.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Nov 26, 2004 at 11:32 AM
Bros,

1.) Audition condition
3.) MATCHING (with empahsis)

Its all about MATCHING.


This is the rule of thumb - system (performance) matching.  :-[  Not price matching, since price, in these internet age, does not necessarily translates into performance. Low price can be obtained by efficient and low cost production, driven by high demand (economies of scale). Wharfedale is not a typical china business. And I think wharfedale is quite successful in this regard in their manufacturing strategy. Not that they shortchanged us in the Asian region.

The whole sound system is not speakers alone, nor is it amplifier alone, etc.  >:( The whole system is the synergy (matching) of the whole sound chain.

Reputable review center (such as what hi-fi) can be credible at a certain extent and not totally useless. Perhaps they always hit the right synergy or has the right amplifier.  :)

Thus, speakers (like wharf 8) can not be faulted alone, the whole of the system chain can be  :o. But since, speakers has been tagged by some system builders as the first choice in the chain (you start your audio by choosing your speakers first), it follows that you have to find the right amp for the chosen speaker. If this route is to be taken, then it follows it is the amp which can be faulted (not match)  :P . Probably your age can be faulted also - as in avphile1 case!  ;D. We the elderlies  :-[ should pick the brighter speakers  ;D!

Some amps made ngongo out of wharf. Many amps made a trash of a certain B&W model (due to its very low impedance at ecrtain bass frequency) also. I learned this also with wharf. My 8.3 is not sounding as before when it was hooked to 630 - have not changed internal wiring yet (dont see a need for that)  ;) - only driver amp.

My next attempt is aimed at x-over. From the initial observation of the x-over, it seems a 2.75ohm resistor is in series before the tweeter  ???  - limiting the power going into the tweeter - an estimated 25% blocked power to the tweeter. I will try to short and find out how it will affect the speaker performance.   :'(

Still 8.3 can beat even the most expensive speakers beyond its price range.  8)  This has been proven before. You only need the right amp for it.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 26, 2004 at 11:33 AM
Quote from: slayer
Bili na ng Diamond 9.4 tapos 4 years break-in period ulit! Ahehehehe...

kaya nga ayaw ko na sir e, nakakapagod yong puro break in, by the time broken in na sawa ka na sa speaker. hehehehe.  ::)

antay-antay na alng ako sa buy n sell for a broken-in 9.4   >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ADM202E on Nov 26, 2004 at 11:40 AM
Any reviews  or owners of 9.3? I saw this at Spectra. Malaki pala and maganda ang dating, have'nt  audition though. Any review please.

Im planning to dispose my 8.1. Attention 8.1 buyers.........hehehe 6months old palang po ito....... ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Nov 26, 2004 at 11:45 AM


This is the rule of thumb - system (performance) matching.  :-[  Not price matching, since price, in these internet age, does not necessarily translates into performance. Low price can be obtained by efficient and low cost production, driven by high demand (economies of scale). Wharfedale is not a typical china business. And I think wharfedale is quite successful in this regard in their manufacturing strategy. Not that they shortchanged us in the Asian region.

The whole sound system is not speakers alone, nor is it amplifier alone, etc.  >:( The whole system is the synergy (matching) of the whole sound chain.

Reputable review center (such as what hi-fi) can be credible at a certain extent and not totally useless. Perhaps they always hit the right synergy or has the right amplifier.  :)

Thus, speakers (like wharf 8) can not be faulted alone, the whole of the system chain can be  :o. But since, speakers has been tagged by some system builders as the first choice in the chain (you start your audio by choosing your speakers first), it follows that you have to find the right amp for the chosen speaker. If this route is to be taken, then it follows it is the amp which can be faulted (not match)  :P . Probably your age can be faulted also - as in avphile1 case!  ;D. We the elderlies  :-[ should pick the brighter speakers  ;D!

Some amps made ngongo out of wharf. Many amps made a trash of a certain B&W model (due to its very low impedance at ecrtain bass frequency) also. I learned this also with wharf. My 8.3 is not sounding as before when it was hooked to 630 - have not changed internal wiring yet (dont see a need for that)  ;) - only driver amp.

My next attempt is aimed at x-over. From the initial observation of the x-over, it seems a 2.75ohm resistor is in series before the tweeter  ???  - limiting the power going into the tweeter - an estimated 25% blocked power to the tweeter. I will try to short and find out how it will affect the speaker performance.   :'(

Still 8.3 can beat even the most expensive speakers beyond its price range.  8)  This has been proven before. You only need the right amp for it.

I very well agree with you on this, sir.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 26, 2004 at 12:06 PM
i have observed here that the amps most commonly used together with the wharfes are avr, with lo if not limited power ratings. this has been my case to when i was still using a yammy (100 wpc daw) for my previuos whafes.... for HT i have no qualms but on audio there are a lot of things to be pouty about.

things changed when i got myself a much more powerful amp (170 wpc), a sansui, and had once again a chance to use a wharfe (8.3 to be exact) power plus sufficient break-in period equates to a much more ejoyable listening experience.... minus all the things i thought wharfe is incapable of before.

my take, part of the matching process is the power of the amp as well.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 26, 2004 at 12:13 PM
Guys,

I notice with power hungry speaker like Wharfedale a high current or high powered amp will do the trick :) :) just like Dynaudio or even Sonus Faber you need good amp to drive them.

Paano kaya kung Sonus speaker mo tapos di high powered amp?? hehehehe..

Matching talaga!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 26, 2004 at 12:16 PM
sir hans,

you got pm..

Replied to your pm sir.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: garee on Nov 26, 2004 at 12:18 PM
is this a good match for yammy?
fronts - 9.2
surrounds - 8.1
center - 8 or 9 center?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 26, 2004 at 12:33 PM


My next attempt is aimed at x-over. From the initial observation of the x-over, it seems a 2.75ohm resistor is in series before the tweeter  ???  - limiting the power going into the tweeter - an estimated 25% blocked power to the tweeter. I will try to short and find out how it will affect the speaker performance.   :'(


That resistor in series with the tweeter must have been put there, as in many other crossover networks I've seen, to act as a voltage divider to make a flat frequency response overall as per spectographic analysis, especially if the tweeter has greater sensitivity than the woofer.   Also might be there to tame a peaking at the crossover point, assuming the tweet has a non-linear response in that area.   Taking it out will certainly increase the tweeter's response, making it brighter.  But if the resistor was there to limit the voltage, taking it out might fry the tweeter at loud volumes, especially if the tweeters have small magnets, indicating lower power handling.    But, that shouldn't deter any effort at tweaking.  Just a cautionary thought.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 26, 2004 at 12:34 PM
generally sir, and only for HT, a yammy is a good much with any wharfe models, specially the 8 series (proven and tested na)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 26, 2004 at 01:05 PM
is this a good match for yammy?
fronts - 9.2
surrounds - 8.1
center - 8 or 9 center?

HT - Good
Audio - No good ( or get another Integrated amp or Tube ) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: rony on Nov 26, 2004 at 01:23 PM


HT - Good
Audio - No good ( or get another Integrated amp or Tube ) ;D ;D ;D

senor hans hinay hinay lang ke kapatid garee. ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: rony on Nov 26, 2004 at 01:25 PM
Guys,

I notice with power hungry speaker like Wharfedale a high current or high powered amp will do the trick :) :) just like Dynaudio or even Sonus Faber you need good amp to drive them.

Paano kaya kung Sonus speaker mo tapos di high powered amp?? hehehehe..

Matching talaga!!
Tunog transistor radio yan.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: garee on Nov 26, 2004 at 02:19 PM


HT - Good
Audio - No good ( or get another Integrated amp or Tube ) ;D ;D ;D


Good lang po sa HT...

as for the audio, alam ko meron kaming lumang 4-deck sansui component at Boman amplifier, mga for repair nasa stock room.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Nov 26, 2004 at 02:22 PM


That resistor in series with the tweeter must have been put there, as in many other crossover networks I've seen, to act as a voltage divider to make a flat frequency response overall as per spectographic analysis, especially if the tweeter has greater sensitivity than the woofer.   Also might be there to tame a peaking at the crossover point, assuming the tweet has a non-linear response in that area.   Taking it out will certainly increase the tweeter's response, making it brighter.  But if the resistor was there to limit the voltage, taking it out might fry the tweeter at loud volumes, especially if the tweeters have small magnets, indicating lower power handling.    But, that shouldn't deter any effort at tweaking.  Just a cautionary thought.

Exactly! flat frequency response to the one who originally designed the x-over. to flatten an amplified frequency is to reduce the power that recreates the frequency. reducing the voltage is in fact reduction of the power going thru the tweeter.

Maybe their reference source is giving so much high frequency that it entails for the x-over designer to put the value of resistor (in fact 2x 5.5ohms in parallel to make it dissipate 10watts). Now that we use typical amps, we hear these reduction as softer tweeter sound.

I dont think it will fry your tweeter, assuming your tweeter (say at 6ohms), the 2.75ohm is basically a reduction of 40% power to tweeter. Shorting the resistor will just add the 40% removed from the original power. Frying can still occur even if your resistor is there, just by providing clipped power to the speaker (resulting from overdriven amp). The capacitor in series still serves as protection from low frequency. If it becomes bright, then you know the value must be somewhere between 0 and 2.75 ohms.

Will have to hear the transition in x-over point to determine if it is for the better of for the worse, and from there make extra adjustment if it is really necessary. I have other radical things in mind to do in the x-over if i have more time.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Nov 26, 2004 at 02:45 PM
is this a good match for yammy?
fronts - 9.2
surrounds - 8.1
center - 8 or 9 center?

I have not heard x50 series. Words have it that Yamaha somehow change the sound characteristics of their amps in the x50 series. How true, idont know.

The surest thing is to listen extensively for the combo in stereo mode only. Forget HT listening - its yamaha's forte - you will not go wrong with Yamaha in this dept. Your high risk is basically in music (stereo) listening. And you know what is listenable for yourself. We dont know that. Do your assignment and audition.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Nov 30, 2004 at 11:15 AM

My next attempt is aimed at x-over. From the initial observation of the x-over, it seems a 2.75ohm resistor is in series before the tweeter  ???  - limiting the power going into the tweeter - an estimated 25% blocked power to the tweeter. I will try to short and find out how it will affect the speaker performance.   :'(


OKay, it's done. It is a resistor in series with the tweeter, limiting power into the tweeter. Shorting the resistor will increase the loudness of your tweeter. If it is too loud for your taste, you can parallel resistor to those resistor already in place (2 x 5.5 ohms/5watts).

I put mine in a shorted position, and for my taste, I will leave it shorted. I replay all my favorite and reference CD and I like the 8.3 now even in the high frequency audio spectrum.

Bycomputation, Your tweeter has 2.75ohms/10watts in series to tweeter. You can vary this value (to suit your sound inclination) by putting parallel resistor to the one already installed. If the tweeter is assumed to be at 6 ohms also, the following power increase to the tweeter can be approximated:

paralleled     increase in tweeter
 resistor       power     loudness
ohms/5W        %            dB
-----------   --------    ----------
   none             0             0
   8-10             7           0.3
   6-7               9           0.4
     5               12          0.5
     4               14          0.6
     3               17          0.7
     2               21          0.8
   1.5              25            1
     1               29          1.1
    0.5             35          1.3
 shorted         45           1.6
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 30, 2004 at 12:53 PM
sir,

has there been any change in the clarity, etc. of your speaker aside from the loudness that you mentioned?

i assume by the looks of things your highs have improved.... significantly? sir?

thnx.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Nov 30, 2004 at 04:49 PM
sir,

has there been any change in the clarity, etc. of your speaker aside from the loudness that you mentioned?

i assume by the looks of things your highs have improved.... significantly? sir?

thnx.

There is no effect in clarity - the loudness of the tweeter is the one that will change. This means the tonal balance of the speaker will change. Kung dinig mo nong una e soft, shorting it will make it somehow mas balance. If it is already balance currently and you short it, then it will give you more high freq energy which you may not want.

The table above can guide you how much loudness it can add to the tweeter sound. multiply the dB column by 10 and you get approximate % of increase in loudness. Thus, if you prefer it shorted, then that will be approximately 16% louder.

This is easy to do. Get a wire with alligator clip at each other end. Clip it at both ends of the resistors (2 white rectangular block on top of each other) in the xross-over at the back, directly behind the speaker banana terminals. You will notice the difference in tweeter loudness. If you are cautious, just put your AVR at low volumes enough to hear the sound. then listen. You want other value of resistor in parallel, then insert resistor between the clip. You dont want it, then remove the clip. You want it, retain the clip.

I like it now as shorted. It makes my 8.3 sefinition better because I can contrast the bass & midrange better with a more audible high frequency around than before.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: akyatbundok on Nov 30, 2004 at 05:39 PM
good idea sir, i wonder if this can be done externally in case the speaker is bi-wireable?  some of the old jap speakers have a knob to control the tweeter level, wanderlust's speaker is a good example, we adjust the tweeter level on-demand based on the music being played..... maybe a small adjustable gadget can be plugged between the hi-freq speaker terminal and the speaker wire.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dvh on Nov 30, 2004 at 10:23 PM
ako rin bibili na ng Euros8 sa December!  teka last month pa 5560 ang cost ng euros8 flrstander ah? so di pa nagbababa tama o mali?

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: dvh on Nov 30, 2004 at 10:27 PM
sorry wrong post po!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 01, 2004 at 06:34 AM
good idea sir, i wonder if this can be done externally in case the speaker is bi-wireable?  some of the old jap speakers have a knob to control the tweeter level, wanderlust's speaker is a good example, we adjust the tweeter level on-demand based on the music being played..... maybe a small adjustable gadget can be plugged between the hi-freq speaker terminal and the speaker wire.

a potentiometer peharps Sir akyat?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 01, 2004 at 08:02 AM
Guys,

Meron na ba ibang color??
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: D0Hbert on Dec 01, 2004 at 08:21 AM
Ideally, when doing crossovers, its more prudent to avoid resistors whether in series or parallel with the drivers, unless the sensitivity of the drivers are really way way off. Resistors just suck up power from the amp. Try changing the crossover point, make it a bit higher than the stock crossover point if you feel the tweeter is overworked or is getting saturated. If you have to place a resistor in series make sure you also add the corresponding resistor in parallel, so that the amp will see the load at the original 8ohm load. Problem with adding a series resistor (2.75ohm) only to for example an 8ohm load (tweeter), the amp sees a 10.75ohm load, so you must parallel another resistor to the tweet so that the amp sees the original 8ohm load. It sounds softer kasi 10ohm load ang nakikita kaya humina yung tunog, put one in parallel, lets say 8ohms, so kita ng amp ay 4ohm load yung tweeter, thus lalakas 2x yan (i think). If you really have to use resistors, make sure you compute the values you need to maintain the 8ohm load for the amp, one resistor in series and another in parallel, tawag dito btw is L-pad. Or you can buy an adjustable L-pad for the tweet, kasi kahit anong pihit gawin mo dyan, maintained yung 8 ohm load sa amp. Or you may try this trick, series capacitor sa tweet (+), resistor parallel, then volume pot (-). Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 01, 2004 at 10:11 AM
good idea sir, i wonder if this can be done externally in case the speaker is bi-wireable?  some of the old jap speakers have a knob to control the tweeter level, wanderlust's speaker is a good example, we adjust the tweeter level on-demand based on the music being played..... maybe a small adjustable gadget can be plugged between the hi-freq speaker terminal and the speaker wire.

While You can insert the potentiometer between the hi and lo terminals, you'd still be limited to  the current tweeter response at the max position as the potentiometer will just attenuate the existing highs.  What aHobbit did was effectively increase the power going to the highs. You can't do that by just inserting a potentiometer to the hi terminals.  (Ofcourse the other option is to do active bi-amplification on the tweeter.)

In order to have a variable control over the  tweeter response, you'll have to tinker with the crossover network.  There are two ways for the diamond speaker in question : You can replace the subject  fixed resistor in the crossover circuit with a variable L-pad or potentiometer of sufficient power handling ability and value (one terminal not connected).  0 resistance means a short hence you get the most available current to the tweeter, the highest potentiometer value should hover around the value of the resistor replaced for an attentuated tweeter.


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 01, 2004 at 10:34 AM
Ideally, when doing crossovers, its more prudent to avoid resistors whether in series or parallel with the drivers, unless the sensitivity of the drivers are really way way off. Resistors just suck up power from the amp. Try changing the crossover point, make it a bit higher than the stock crossover point if you feel the tweeter is overworked or is getting saturated. If you have to place a resistor in series make sure you also add the corresponding resistor in parallel, so that the amp will see the load at the original 8ohm load. Problem with adding a series resistor (2.75ohm) only to for example an 8ohm load (tweeter), the amp sees a 10.75ohm load, so you must parallel another resistor to the tweet so that the amp sees the original 8ohm load. It sounds softer kasi 10ohm load ang nakikita kaya humina yung tunog, put one in parallel, lets say 8ohms, so kita ng amp ay 4ohm load yung tweeter, thus lalakas 2x yan (i think). If you really have to use resistors, make sure you compute the values you need to maintain the 8ohm load for the amp, one resistor in series and another in parallel, tawag dito btw is L-pad. Or you can buy an adjustable L-pad for the tweet, kasi kahit anong pihit gawin mo dyan, maintained yung 8 ohm load sa amp. Or you may try this trick, series capacitor sa tweet (+), resistor parallel, then volume pot (-). Hope this helps.


True,   You are talking mainly of voice coil or DC resistance.  I'd be more reluctant when handling woofers.  But tweeters generally present very high overall impedances to the amp.  Changing incrementally any of the resistive, capacitive and inductive value on the tweeter path can either reduce or increase a tweeter's overall response with little adverse effect on the amp.  What ahobbit did was to change the resistive value, probably denting just a little of the overall impedance to allow more high frequency current to get to the tweeter.  I don't see it as a problem, unless the tweeter can't handle that much current.   The resistor could be there just to tame a more sensitive tweet.  In which case, taking it out will just make the tweet louder. 

I personally prefer not to tinker with crossovers of well designed speakers.  I'd rather replace the entire crossover network if I had to.  If the listener thinks the tweeter is too soft, replacing the tweeter with a more sensitive one can often make a greater sonic difference.  Without touching the crossovers nor having any effect on the amp.  But in the spirit of experimentation, tinkering with the crossovers can alter responses and give the technikcally knowledgeable  listener what he wants. ;D



Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Dec 01, 2004 at 10:54 AM
good idea sir, i wonder if this can be done externally in case the speaker is bi-wireable?  some of the old jap speakers have a knob to control the tweeter level, wanderlust's speaker is a good example, we adjust the tweeter level on-demand based on the music being played..... maybe a small adjustable gadget can be plugged between the hi-freq speaker terminal and the speaker wire.

Yes. I have a vintage akai speaker (with 10inch woofer). at the back is a pot that you can tweak to adjust tweeter energy to adjust tonal balance of the speaker system. It can be used, just ensure the pot is capable to sink at least 5W of power - I am just not familiar with this gadget.

However, I have not thorougly check the tweeter connection. On my initial assessment, if you want to put the gadget in the HF terminal itself will entail rewiring of the cross-over so that it will not affect the original cross-over points set on the circuit board. This is because the HF terminal is not directly connected to tweeter but to its cross over components - shunted to this HF terminal is an inductor to filter out low frequency going into the tweeter.

But if you are maverick enough, you can bore a hole   :o  in the 8.3 just to insert a pot there shunted to the resistors installed in the cross-over board - or totally replacing the resistors themselves.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Dec 01, 2004 at 11:05 AM
Ideally, when doing crossovers, its more prudent to avoid resistors whether in series or parallel with the drivers, unless the sensitivity of the drivers are really way way off. Resistors just suck up power from the amp.


That's why I removed that resistors - because of the ideal thing. However, if I am very much satisfied with the 8.3 in its high frequency, I could have left the resistor as is.

In my personal level, I dont want life to be more difficult than it is. Simplify things if it works anyway. Tweaking the cross-over means you have to know the value of your inductors   ???. It is easy for caps - just read it.  ;D . Moreso, the time to spend resoldering the whole thing and still may not deliver the expected results.  >:(

This is a simple tweak to try - less time - no danger - involves you ears. Play your reference CDs and listen carefully. If you like it, keep it. If you dont, remove it. If you want to further adjust, experiment with resistor values. I think it is more time consuming browsing thru this thread.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Dec 01, 2004 at 11:14 AM


While You can insert the potentiometer between the hi and lo terminals, you'd still be limited to  the current tweeter response at the max position as the potentiometer will just attenuate the existing highs.  What aHobbit did was effectively increase the power going to the highs. You can't do that by just inserting a potentiometer to the hi terminals.  (Ofcourse the other option is to do active bi-amplification on the tweeter.)



I explained already, it may not be on the HF terminal - but it can be done somewhere else! Yes, bore a hole somewhere!  :o  I love my speakers!!!   ;D  I guess, I am not as brave as Jerix!



In order to have a variable control over the  tweeter response, you'll have to tinker with the crossover network.  There are two ways for the diamond speaker in question : You can replace the subject  fixed resistor in the crossover circuit with a variable L-pad or potentiometer of sufficient power handling ability and value (one terminal not connected).  0 resistance means a short hence you get the most available current to the tweeter, the highest potentiometer value should hover around the value of the resistor replaced for an attentuated tweeter.


This is if you want it variable - perhaps based on your listening moods. But your amp is fixed in a way, so perhaps you can temporarily shunt a high-powered pot with the resistor just to tweak which values suits you best. Then remove the pot and replace it with fixed value resistor and close your speakers.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 01, 2004 at 03:51 PM
Guys,

Those aspiring for other color other than black baka next year na daw labo na this year magkaroon ng iba color..


kaya decided na ako.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Dec 01, 2004 at 03:58 PM
Guys,

Those aspiring for other color other than black baka next year na daw labo na this year magkaroon ng iba color..


kaya decided na ako.. ;D

next pa sir? naku baka kung san na naman mapunta pera ko :(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 01, 2004 at 04:01 PM


next pa sir? naku baka kung san na naman mapunta pera ko :(


Bili na baka maubos pa moolah.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 01, 2004 at 04:04 PM
Guys,

Those aspiring for other color other than black baka next year na daw labo na this year magkaroon ng iba color..


kaya decided na ako.. ;D

Nice kOya HaNs! suportahan ka namin ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 01, 2004 at 04:09 PM
hmmm...meron kayang Neon yellow para sa pre-amp ni sir wanderlust?  >:D >:D >:D Fish men..  O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 01, 2004 at 04:58 PM


Nice kOya HaNs! suportahan ka namin ;D

Hehehehe malalaman natin yan this Saturday ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: j_albert22 on Dec 01, 2004 at 05:06 PM


Hehehehe malalaman natin yan this Saturday ;D ;D
sent u pm ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 02, 2004 at 06:46 AM


Hehehehe malalaman natin yan this Saturday ;D ;D

hmm.... may iba na bang kulay kOya? I smell something ah...  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 02, 2004 at 08:48 AM
next year pa daw dadating yung ibang color.... pero may nangati na ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 02, 2004 at 08:53 AM
next year pa daw dadating yung ibang color.... pero may nangati na ;D ;D

Tama pala ang hinala ko at may 9.2 na naman na nakawala sa bilihan  ;D. May kasama na bang stands nung binili nya?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 02, 2004 at 09:15 AM
Laging tulog yung bubwit mo pre ;D ;D panay exercise na nga yung bagong 9.2 kasi may marathon daw na sasalihan ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: garee on Dec 02, 2004 at 10:03 AM
what would be the better application for this 9.2?  audio only or HT fronts?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 02, 2004 at 10:07 AM
what would be the better application for this 9.2?  audio only or HT fronts?


we have only tried it in audio...and for the price, it's a good buy! Haven't tested it for HT  ??? yet.....  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: zakkaz on Dec 02, 2004 at 10:48 AM
Guys,

Those aspiring for other color other than black baka next year na daw labo na this year magkaroon ng iba color..


kaya decided na ako.. ;D
congrats sa bago mong speaker
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 02, 2004 at 11:02 AM
what would be the better application for this 9.2? audio only or HT fronts?


we even tested it with tube amps and its bang for a buck talaga! In fact, may isang manong ng maligayang nakikinig ng diamond 9.... Congrats pala kung sino man yung manong na nakabili ng 9 series ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Dec 02, 2004 at 11:10 AM
congrats sa new owner ng 9.2.......... musta overnight break in sir?  pagkaka alam ko d na pinakingan out of the box diretso na break-in!

hay, basta ako decided na rin.... to wait for the silver color. hehehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iceman90a on Dec 02, 2004 at 11:12 AM
what would be the better application for this 9.2? audio only or HT fronts?


i've set up a pair as fronts for my uncle's HT - also used 9.1 for surrounds :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: garee on Dec 02, 2004 at 01:16 PM


i've set up a pair as fronts for my uncle's HT - also used 9.1 for surrounds :)

sir iceman, what amp/avr did you pair it with?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 02, 2004 at 02:18 PM
what would be the better application for this 9.2?  audio only or HT fronts?


Pre kung maganda sa Audio mas lalo maganda sa HT.. we tried that before with Gainclone amp and Tube amp both have excellent result 2 THUMBS up!!  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 02, 2004 at 02:30 PM
congrats sa new owner ng 9.2.......... musta overnight break in sir?  pagkaka alam ko d na pinakingan out of the box diretso na break-in!

hay, basta ako decided na rin.... to wait for the silver color. hehehe.

Uy ok yan ha.. out of the box di na pinakingan..Congrats!! ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: rony on Dec 02, 2004 at 02:34 PM
Master ???? congrats ako namman ang babati  :D
Pero payo ko lang wag mo itabi doon sa ls3 parang alam ko na mangyayari. ahihihi  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 02, 2004 at 03:00 PM
Master ???? congrats ako namman ang babati  :D
Pero payo ko lang wag mo itabi doon sa ls3 parang alam ko na mangyayari. ahihihi  ;D ;D

Rock na lang music.. baka meron pa laban.. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iceman90a on Dec 02, 2004 at 04:19 PM


sir iceman, what amp/avr did you pair it with?

A Yamaha DSP-A1, ganda nga eh... arborin ko sana papalitan ko ng 430 ;D >:D
(http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/products/ht/img/dspa1.gif)

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 02, 2004 at 08:12 PM


A Yamaha DSP-A1, ganda nga eh... arborin ko sana papalitan ko ng 430 ;D >:D
(http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/products/ht/img/dspa1.gif)



Bihira ka KOya Iceman.. Flagship yan palit sa entry level.. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 05, 2004 at 12:26 PM
Wharf 9.2 na bago, congrats sa mayari nito..... idol kita!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: rony on Dec 05, 2004 at 12:48 PM
Sayang naman di natin na todo speakers kahapon.  :(
Sayang din kasi balita ko puros contodo ang gamit noong may-ari.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 05, 2004 at 07:10 PM
Sayang naman di natin na todo speakers kahapon.  :(
Sayang din kasi balita ko puros contodo ang gamit noong may-ari.  ;D



Sir Rony,

Palagay ko magkakaroon pa tayo ng pagkakataon para dyan.... para naman talagang ma-exercise ng lubos!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 05, 2004 at 08:01 PM
Sayang naman di natin na todo speakers kahapon.  :(
Sayang din kasi balita ko puros contodo ang gamit noong may-ari.  ;D


According dun sa owner eh break in stage pa daw kaya nag-iingat pa.. ;D ;D pero mukhang kaya pa naman nun 9.2 eh.. ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 05, 2004 at 08:16 PM
Sayang naman di natin na todo speakers kahapon.  :(
Sayang din kasi balita ko puros contodo ang gamit noong may-ari.  ;D



Di kaya natatakot lang?? hehehehehe sa Eico HF-87 vintage amp.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 05, 2004 at 09:05 PM


According dun sa owner eh break in stage pa daw kaya nag-iingat pa.. ;D ;D pero mukhang kaya pa naman nun 9.2 eh.. ::)

Cge Sir, sa susunod na exercise simulan natin sa 1 o'clock  >:D Kidding aside, bilib talaga ako sa 9.2 na yan....  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 06, 2004 at 08:48 AM
Biro nyo yung 9.2 di pumiyok......... yung may ari ang pumipiyok pag nilalakasan ang volume ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Dec 06, 2004 at 12:28 PM
oy, namasyal na pala yang 9.2 na yan ha.....  mana sa k0yang na evo, lakwatsero..........   
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 06, 2004 at 03:37 PM
Nag-eehersisyo lang yun Sir... Naghahamon lagi ng katunggali kaya parating wala sa bahay..  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 06, 2004 at 04:34 PM
Nag-eehersisyo lang yun Sir... Naghahamon lagi ng katunggali kaya parating wala sa bahay..  ;D

parang basagolero yan 9.2 ah panay hamon ng kalaban.. ;D ;D pero Galing talaga di nag ngo ngo sound high and mids labas..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: rony on Dec 06, 2004 at 04:47 PM
ayus ka talaga kuya. idol talaga kita pag dating sa ganyan speakers
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 06, 2004 at 04:52 PM
ayus ka talaga kuya. idol talaga kita pag dating sa ganyan speakers

Salamat masta rony  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: rony on Dec 06, 2004 at 04:57 PM
lumambot ba mga kasukasuan noon woofer. hehehe dehin natodo kaya naman pala.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 06, 2004 at 05:05 PM
lumambot ba mga kasukasuan noon woofer. hehehe dehin natodo kaya naman pala.

Di pa rin ata masyado balita ko sa owner eh dapat nga nilakas pa volume..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Dec 06, 2004 at 05:58 PM
sa next session ako na mismo maglalakas ng volume para labas na ang dapat ilabas! hehehe.

lalo na pag nakatalikod ang my ari   >:D  >:D  >:D

fishpo..... kung sino ka man.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 06, 2004 at 07:35 PM
sa next session ako na mismo maglalakas ng volume para labas na ang dapat ilabas! hehehe.

lalo na pag nakatalikod ang my ari   >:D  >:D  >:D

fishpo..... kung sino ka man.  ;D

Sir, mukhang mahirap yang balak mo... "The owner never takes off his eyes on it" specially kapag on-going na ang ehersisyo nyang 9.2 na yan.. :P
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 06, 2004 at 09:22 PM


Sir, mukhang mahirap yang balak mo... "The owner never takes off his eyes on it" specially kapag on-going na ang ehersisyo nyang 9.2 na yan.. :P

Pwede oras na magYOsi sya lakasan mo agad volume.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 07, 2004 at 08:37 AM
Ayan! may go signal na kayo kay KOya para lakasan ang level ng exercise ng 9.2 nya ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 07, 2004 at 09:46 AM
Ayan! may go signal na kayo kay KOya para lakasan ang level ng exercise ng 9.2 nya ;D

Hehehehe KID_lat wag mo lang papahuli.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 07, 2004 at 10:03 AM


Hehehehe KID_lat wag mo lang papahuli.. ;D ;D

Nakow kundi babayaran mo agad yang 9.2 na yan...  :o Ika nga you cracked it..you bought it..  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Novice01 on Dec 07, 2004 at 10:30 AM
(http://www.pioneer.com.sg/storefront/ImagesOnline/VSX-C302-S.jpg)
A Slim, but versatile 5.1-channel A/V Receiver to match equally slim DVD players


can i use the wharfedale speaker on this system?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 07, 2004 at 10:47 AM
Novice1,

Yes but You will have to audition that AVR with wharfedale speakers. It depends on your preference.  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 07, 2004 at 10:52 AM
Hans,

Tiwala ko sa kakayahan ng toy mo na yan, pwedeng ilaban sa ST Presidency

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 07, 2004 at 11:17 AM
Hans,

Tiwala ko sa kakayahan ng toy mo na yan, pwedeng ilaban sa ST Presidency

 ;D ;D ;D

Nambola pa KID bili na kasi.. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 07, 2004 at 11:18 AM
(http://www.pioneer.com.sg/storefront/ImagesOnline/VSX-C302-S.jpg)
A Slim, but versatile 5.1-channel A/V Receiver to match equally slim DVD players


can i use the wharfedale speaker on this system?

Bro, does it comes with speaker? can you post spec to be sure. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Philander on Dec 07, 2004 at 11:19 AM
(http://www.pioneer.com.sg/storefront/ImagesOnline/VSX-C302-S.jpg)
A Slim, but versatile 5.1-channel A/V Receiver to match equally slim DVD players


can i use the wharfedale speaker on this system?

Yes you can use but I suggest that you use high-sensitivity speakers for this receiver.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Dec 07, 2004 at 12:42 PM
pioneer ba yan pre? post modin specs para mas logical yong suggestions. so long as match yong power to the power requirements of the wharfe, go na yan.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Dec 07, 2004 at 12:46 PM
next session akin ka 9.2, lalagay ko lang si master jo, akyat, control, j_albert, sa gilid ko tyak d nako kita.............  walang huli d ba.  ;D

oist fish tayo mga papa ha....    ;D  ;D  ;D

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 07, 2004 at 01:24 PM
next session akin ka 9.2, lalagay ko lang si master jo, akyat, control, j_albert, sa gilid ko tyak d nako kita.............  walang huli d ba.  ;D

oist fish tayo mga papa ha....    ;D  ;D  ;D



tsk tsk...sama talga balak ng mama sa 9.2 mo kOya...Sir wanderlust...bili na kasi..  >:D BEST BUY yan..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 07, 2004 at 09:57 PM
OffCONTrol,

Di nya type 9.2 pang 9.4 ang beauty ni wanderlust.. hintay lang ng brown. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jdg on Dec 08, 2004 at 12:10 AM
(http://www.pioneer.com.sg/storefront/ImagesOnline/VSX-C302-S.jpg)
A Slim, but versatile 5.1-channel A/V Receiver to match equally slim DVD players


can i use the wharfedale speaker on this system?

VSX-C302-S
A Slim, but versatile 5.1-channel A/V Receiver to match equally slim DVD players
Features

    * Maximum power:75W x 5ch (6 ohms)
    * Built-in DTS/Dolby Digital/Dolby Pro Logic II decorder
    * 96kHz/24-bit audio D/A converter
    * SR+ Terminal
    * Advanced Surround :Advanced Movie, Advanced Music, Expanded Theater, Virtual Surround Back, 5ch Stereo, TV Surround, Game Mode,Phones Surround, Sports, Virtual Surround
    * S-Bass
    * Dialog Enhancement
    * Midnight Listening Mode

magkano kaya ito?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 08, 2004 at 06:59 AM
OffCONTrol,

Di nya type 9.2 pang 9.4 ang beauty ni wanderlust.. hintay lang ng brown. ;D

Onga ano..para naka-tone sa rack nya yung color ng 9.4   ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: timn8ter on Dec 08, 2004 at 08:01 AM
Someone has one of these, I'm sure.
(http://www2.panasonic.com/static/models/sa-xr50s.jpg)
Panasonic SA-XR50S
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sebman on Dec 08, 2004 at 10:01 AM
uy congrats kuya.... panalo yang speakers na yan...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Dec 08, 2004 at 10:55 AM
hehehe...........


brown nga, hopes ko.

gaganda ng mga avr na yan ah, magkakano kaya mga yan?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 08, 2004 at 01:00 PM
wanderlust,

Musta ibang color mong hunting?? black na lang..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Dec 08, 2004 at 02:36 PM
wala pa rin sir......... naka tuon na sa ibang project utak ko ngayon
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 08, 2004 at 02:43 PM
Oist! anong project yan? road construction ba ;D ;D Oo nga naman wag ng maghintay ng ibang color matagal pa yun >:D tsaka wala ka ng bonus nun :P
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Dec 08, 2004 at 05:00 PM
hehehe..........

project "T" sir..... details are still "for the eyes only" as of the moment, once de classified will post it sir.  ::)  ;D  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 08, 2004 at 05:58 PM
hehehe..........

project "T" sir..... details are still "for the eyes only" as of the moment, once de classified will post it sir.  ::)  ;D  >:D

Wow! Ang mama pa-suspense na naman..  ;D Unahin mo muna Sir itong Wharfe  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: edboy7 on Dec 08, 2004 at 09:16 PM
mga bossing :) available na ba yung 9.6? how much? thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on Dec 08, 2004 at 11:22 PM
How will the diamond series perform with Technics AV receivers? Anybody.....please.....thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Dec 09, 2004 at 11:18 AM
mga bossing :) available na ba yung 9.6? how much? thanks
no news yet about the 9.6
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Dec 09, 2004 at 12:08 PM

no news yet about the 9.6

sir how about wood color for 9.2?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Dec 09, 2004 at 12:40 PM
Quote from: control
Wow! Ang mama pa-suspense na naman..   Unahin mo muna Sir itong Wharfe


syempre nasa plano pa rin yan sir............. basta ba wood color na.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 09, 2004 at 01:13 PM

 

syempre nasa plano pa rin yan sir............. basta ba wood color na.  ;D

Nyak! Next pa yun Sir...  ;D Kaya bili na today hangat nandyan pa ang budget..  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Dec 09, 2004 at 01:58 PM
hehehe....... madali lang yang budget sir, ang mahirap yong kulay.... tsareng!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 09, 2004 at 02:01 PM
hehehe....... madali lang yang budget sir, ang mahirap yong kulay.... tsareng!

Eh yun naman pala eh...tara na kasi magpagawa na tayo ng tooooootttt..... bilis na ...dali...next year na yang wharfe  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Dec 10, 2004 at 10:52 AM


sir how about wood color for 9.2?
according to the distributor there are other colors in their next shipment
the new colors MIGHT arrive here last or second to the last week of this month
n it might be out in the market by january maybe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 10, 2004 at 12:07 PM

 

syempre nasa plano pa rin yan sir............. basta ba wood color na.  ;D

Pre bili na para ma enjoy mo na.. Christmas and New Year... :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 10, 2004 at 12:21 PM
still waiting for the silver color daw ;D ;D tsaka iba pinag-iipunan nyan >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Dec 10, 2004 at 03:04 PM
Quote from: spectraav
ccording to the distributor there are other colors in their next shipment
the new colors MIGHT arrive here last or second to the last week of this month
n it might be out in the market by january maybe

o e2 na hinihintay ko! tamang tama pang valentines   ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Dec 10, 2004 at 05:08 PM

according to the distributor there are other colors in their next shipment
the new colors MIGHT arrive here last or second to the last week of this month
n it might be out in the market by january maybe

thanks sir! magandang balita ito, so konting tiis nalang  sa mga nagaabang ng ibang  color tulad ko. hehehe..... :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 12, 2004 at 07:04 PM


thanks sir! magandang balita ito, so konting tiis nalang  sa mga nagaabang ng ibang  color tulad ko. hehehe..... :D

Talagang tiis and wait... Hay ako di ko na naintay hehehehe.. 9.2 black agad. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 13, 2004 at 08:47 AM


Talagang tiis and wait... Hay ako di ko na naintay hehehehe.. 9.2 black agad. ;D

Cge Sir, pag may lumabas na ibang color at gusto mong dispatchahin yang black pipila na ako sa #1 slot dyan sa 9.2 mo  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 13, 2004 at 09:02 AM
Quote from: control
Cge Sir, pag may lumabas na ibang color at gusto mong dispatchahin yang black pipila na ako sa #1 slot dyan sa 9.2 mo

Hoy!!! ang aga ng pilahan dito ah ;D KOya sent u SMS (akin na lang yan pre) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 13, 2004 at 09:34 AM


Hoy!!! ang aga ng pilahan dito ah ;D KOya sent u SMS (akin na lang yan pre) ;D ;D

Nyahahaha... ang bilis mo men..   ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 13, 2004 at 10:10 AM
Joke lang pre ;D ;D 8.3 pa rin ako :P pag 5 years old na ito, tunog vintage na ::) ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Dec 13, 2004 at 10:49 AM
ang bibilis nyo oy! parang wala kayong pinaghahandaan ah. mwehehehe  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 13, 2004 at 11:30 AM
Joke lang pre ;D ;D 8.3 pa rin ako :P pag 5 years old na ito, tunog vintage na ::) ;D

Onga Sir, Na-imagine ko lang....pag tagal tagal na ng 8.3 parang ls3 na rin  :o ;D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 13, 2004 at 02:13 PM
KID_lat & oFFcoNTROL,

Hehehehe every weekend ko lang naririnig 9.2 ko kaya exciting everytime malapit na magweekends.. hehehehe parang may party sa bahay pagnagsound kami.. hehehehe ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 13, 2004 at 02:33 PM
KOya Hans,

lufet nga ng soundtrip mo dun.... masyadong enclose yung sala kaya tsalap mag karaoke at gulaman para kang nasa VIP room ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 13, 2004 at 02:59 PM
KOya Hans,

lufet nga ng soundtrip mo dun.... masyadong enclose yung sala kaya tsalap mag karaoke at gulaman para kang nasa VIP room ;D ;D

Uy! Ganda pala talaga sa inyo kOya.. tapos 9.2 pa...aprub!  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 13, 2004 at 03:23 PM
KOya Hans,

lufet nga ng soundtrip mo dun.... masyadong enclose yung sala kaya tsalap mag karaoke at gulaman para kang nasa VIP room ;D ;D


Uy! Ganda pala talaga sa inyo kOya.. tapos 9.2 pa...aprub! >:D


Thanks guys.. actually sarap talaga magGulaman pag nice music mo.. tanong mo si Senor Kimpao kung ok talaga.. ;) ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 13, 2004 at 03:30 PM




Thanks guys.. actually sarap talaga magGulaman pag nice music mo.. tanong mo si Senor Kimpao kung ok talaga.. ;) ;)

Sir sa picture pa lang at home na at home na yung 9.2  ;D ;D ;D Cgurado hindi yun mahahapo sa pag-kanta dun  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 13, 2004 at 03:34 PM


Sir sa picture pa lang at home na at home na yung 9.2  ;D ;D ;D Cgurado hindi yun mahahapo sa pag-kanta dun  >:D

Hehehehe salamat senor Control. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: garee on Dec 13, 2004 at 03:43 PM
since 9.2 is a bookshelves speaker...
does the "design" of a speaker stand really makes a difference.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 13, 2004 at 04:06 PM
since 9.2 is a bookshelves speaker...
does the "design" of a speaker stand really makes a difference.
.

OO naman try placing your speaker on a folding table or chair you'll notice medyo di solid yun sound (bass and balance ) pero place it on a good stand and lalabas yun bass tapos balance na yun highs and lows.. kaya some invest in customize stand para talaga design for there speakers.. :)

Stand are handy it come in diff height for you to choose from ( height should be depend on your listening position ear level) syempre dami pa design and weight. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: allvin_98 on Dec 17, 2004 at 03:41 PM
mga Sir(s),

ask ko lang.magkal-level na ba yung wharfe 9.2 sa AE EVO 1, B&W600, B2?

kung magka-level na sila eh cyempre dun na ako sa mura.hehehe

thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Dec 17, 2004 at 04:03 PM
mga Sir(s),

ask ko lang.magkal-level na ba yung wharfe 9.2 sa AE EVO 1, B&W600, B2?

kung magka-level na sila eh cyempre dun na ako sa mura.hehehe

thanks

if you check the web for prices, parang magkakamatch sila. the 9.1, evo1, b2 and dm303.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: allvin_98 on Dec 17, 2004 at 04:17 PM


if you check the web for prices, parang magkakamatch sila. the 9.1, evo1, b2 and dm303.


ah ok for the price. but in terms of performance?

thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: odyopayl on Dec 17, 2004 at 04:31 PM

.

OO naman try placing your speaker on a folding table or chair you'll notice medyo di solid yun sound (bass and balance ) pero place it on a good stand and lalabas yun bass tapos balance na yun highs and lows.. kaya some invest in customize stand para talaga design for there speakers.. :)

Stand are handy it come in diff height for you to choose from ( height should be depend on your listening position ear level) syempre dami pa design and weight. :)
Sir don't forget "Height" of speaker stand  affects  the low frequency & Soundstage of your system!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 17, 2004 at 04:46 PM


ah ok for the price. but in terms of performance?

thanks

Sir, Performance wise...it's best to audition and rate them yourself because different people have different taste in sonics  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 19, 2004 at 10:01 AM


Sir, Performance wise...it's best to audition and rate them yourself because different people have different taste in sonics  ;)

Correct ka Senor Control all mention models are good and each brand have a certain character sa sound that is unique kaya better audition..  :) :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: allvin_98 on Dec 19, 2004 at 10:39 AM


Correct ka Senor Control all mention models are good and each brand have a certain character sa sound that is unique kaya better audition..  :) :)

Ah ok. thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Jairus on Dec 20, 2004 at 03:08 PM
Has anybody here auditioned the SW150? How much is the selling price for these?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Dec 20, 2004 at 03:18 PM
Yung isang mama diyan na naka diamond 9.1 at center paramdam ka naman!  ;D Congrats pre, mukhang aakyat na sa bedroom yung HT ah!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 20, 2004 at 04:00 PM
Mas mabilis pa sa KIDlat ;D ;D galing ng 6.0 setup nya.... SW150 sub na lang ang kulang  >:D Congrats!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Dec 20, 2004 at 04:10 PM
Mas mabilis pa sa KIDlat ;D ;D galing ng 6.0 setup nya.... SW150 sub na lang ang kulang  >:D Congrats!

kaya nga tooooooooot.............. ang pangalan nya dahil ganun siya kabilis.  9.1 tapos 9 cs hmmmmm not bad for HT, ROCK THE HOUSE din!  :o ;D ;D


What-Hifi? 2004 Product of The Year Awardee  :o :o :D :D
http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond9/

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 20, 2004 at 04:18 PM
Oo nga pala ano hehehe good decision yung ginawa nya konti lang ginastos  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: odyopayl on Dec 21, 2004 at 12:04 PM
mga Sir(s),

ask ko lang.magkal-level na ba yung wharfe 9.2 sa AE EVO 1, B&W600, B2?

kung magka-level na sila eh cyempre dun na ako sa mura.hehehe

thanks

Some says "Wharfedale Diamond Series are Poor Mans B&W". This might means they have the same category but not in "Level" & "Price". Better check it with your ears!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 21, 2004 at 07:21 PM


Some says "Wharfedale Diamond Series are Poor Mans B&W". This might means they have the same category but not in "Level" & "Price". Better check it with your ears!

Right exactly remember also that NOT all speaker that are categorize higher than another brand will sound better.. Audition with your other gears to hear the synergy kung maganda..

Like what i did got a high powered Surplus amp to match my 9.2 and presto.. Panalo!!!..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: james16 on Dec 21, 2004 at 09:56 PM
kuya, kelan ko ba pwede madinig yung 9.x series mo?????   ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: berniebau on Dec 22, 2004 at 05:11 AM


Right exactly remember also that NOT all speaker that are categorize higher than another brand will sound better.. Audition with your other gears to hear the synergy kung maganda..

Like what i did got a high powered Surplus amp to match my 9.2 and presto.. Panalo!!!..

sir,
ano yung high powered surplus amp mo? san ba nakakkakuha ng mga ganito? planning to upgrade my receiver eh. pero Diamond 8s pa gamit ko.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Dec 22, 2004 at 01:03 PM
Has anybody here auditioned the SW150? How much is the selling price for these?

sa spectra out of stock and next year pa next shipment dont know with other dealers but srp is 9k if i'm not mistaken.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Jairus on Dec 22, 2004 at 01:49 PM
thanks jetok for the reply :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 22, 2004 at 04:10 PM


sir,
ano yung high powered surplus amp mo? san ba nakakkakuha ng mga ganito? planning to upgrade my receiver eh. pero Diamond 8s pa gamit ko.

Surplus 2 channel integrated amp sa Pier ko nabili.

Ano gamit mo now bro?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 23, 2004 at 09:32 AM


Surplus 2 channel integrated amp sa Pier ko nabili.

Ano gamit mo now bro?

Master Hans....sa susunod na flight nyo sa market place pwede ba akong makasama? Para makabili ako ng SS amp na surplus?  :'(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iceman90a on Dec 23, 2004 at 09:47 AM


Master Hans....sa susunod na flight nyo sa market place pwede ba akong makasama? Para makabili ako ng SS amp na surplus? :'(

huwag na - idagdag mo na lang sa speaker or tube amp budget mo, sayang din yun pang NOS RCA na 7199 din yan >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sebman on Dec 23, 2004 at 09:51 AM


hiwag na - idagdag mo na lang sa speaker or tube amp budget mo, sayang din yun pang NOS RCA na 7199 din yan >:D

tama si master iceman... 7199... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mukhang st70 na talaga a..  ;)  :) then 9.2 na...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 23, 2004 at 09:57 AM


hiwag na - idagdag mo na lang sa speaker or tube amp budget mo, sayang din yun pang NOS RCA na 7199 din yan >:D

Nakow po! At nanghahawa na naman si Master Iceman...  ;D ;D ;D Saklolo...  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: berniebau on Dec 23, 2004 at 10:26 AM


Surplus 2 channel integrated amp sa Pier ko nabili.

Ano gamit mo now bro?


Onkyo na sr500 w/ 8.4 fronts. ayos nman sa palagay ko, pero parang may ibibigay pa tong speakers na hindi kaya ilabas ng current amp ko.  :-\
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 23, 2004 at 11:00 AM
Bakit sir bernie? bitin ka pa ba sa tunog ng 8.4 mo, power hungry kasi yang wharfs.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: james16 on Dec 23, 2004 at 07:54 PM
balita ko avail din itong mga speakers sa image daw....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: berniebau on Dec 24, 2004 at 01:39 AM
Bakit sir bernie? bitin ka pa ba sa tunog ng 8.4 mo, power hungry kasi yang wharfs.

actually, sa kinalalagyang room ngyon ok (more than enough) tong 8.4. kaya lang when listening at lower volume parang hindi buo ang tunog, kelangan medyo lakasan (around 50) when listening in stereo. higher kapag DD.  pero siguro kapag may sub na, mababawasan na ng load yung fronts mas maganda na lalabas ang tunog diba? kapag ok wla ng upgrade sa amp... sayang eh... mahirap na ang buhay ngayon ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: allvin_98 on Dec 24, 2004 at 07:32 PM


actually, sa kinalalagyang room ngyon ok (more than enough) tong 8.4. kaya lang when listening at lower volume parang hindi buo ang tunog, kelangan medyo lakasan (around 50) when listening in stereo. higher kapag DD.  pero siguro kapag may sub na, mababawasan na ng load yung fronts mas maganda na lalabas ang tunog diba? kapag ok wla ng upgrade sa amp... sayang eh... mahirap na ang buhay ngayon ;)

Sir bitin tlaga ang marantz.before i owned marantz SR4400 matched with wharfe 8.4. one month pa lang sa akin yung marantz eh binenta ko na.

Hirap ang marantz i-drive ang wharfe speakers.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: berniebau on Dec 25, 2004 at 11:11 PM


Sir bitin tlaga ang marantz.before i owned marantz SR4400 matched with wharfe 8.4. one month pa lang sa akin yung marantz eh binenta ko na.

Hirap ang marantz i-drive ang wharfe speakers.

sir alvin,
just to clarify, TX-SR500 (Onkyo) ang aking receiver dehins Marantz.  Anyway i just checked the specs of Marantz SR4400, it's rated at 80W/Ch while the SR500 is only 65W/ch (FTC), although not very specific yung rating ng Marantz kung pano nakuha yung 80W.  can you describe your experience with your marantz-wharf combo?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: james16 on Dec 26, 2004 at 12:20 AM
as far as i could remember, some brands were actually claiming that there unit have this particular rating but when actual tests were made, some of them did not even meet there claimed power rating. I just could not remember the website but one of our fellow pinoydvd member post this link a long time ago
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: allvin_98 on Dec 26, 2004 at 03:51 AM


sir alvin,
just to clarify, TX-SR500 (Onkyo) ang aking receiver dehins Marantz.  Anyway i just checked the specs of Marantz SR4400, it's rated at 80W/Ch while the SR500 is only 65W/ch (FTC), although not very specific yung rating ng Marantz kung pano nakuha yung 80W.  can you describe your experience with your marantz-wharf combo?

Hehehe.sorry sir... mali ang baso ko

maganda naman ang marantz. small size lang ang room ko based in the  manual. lagi nga ako +6- +8 ang volume ko kapag audio and movie. pero kahit na malakas ng volume hindi pa rin yung tunay na tunog ng wharfe and mahina mag-basss .mabilis pa siya mag-init. nakakapaso yung init kaya bumili ako ng fan.

after i sold my one month old amp. i bought sakura 387 amp coz my friend have sakura-wharfe 8.4 combo.mas maganda pa nga yung sakura eh kayang i-drive yun wharfe and lumabas na yun bass.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 26, 2004 at 11:00 AM
berniebau,

How old are your 8.4? baka break in pa konti. :) have experience Onkyo + Wharf combo 8.2 naman front ko before and true medyo malabo in lower volume Onkyo is warm already tapos warm sounding din Wharf kaya parang nawawala yun detail and clarity.

Meron ba preouts Onkyo mo? kung meron add ka power amp to drive your fronts. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: berniebau on Dec 26, 2004 at 02:44 PM
sir hans,

1 year pa lang sya sa Feb 14 (eto ang naging date namin ng aking wife, hehehe)  palagay ko naman broken in na to. kasi gamit na gamit sya the first few months sya. tama ka nga yata sir sa description mo. warm. kasi when listening to "voices" na music/classical ayos na ayos eh. pero when it comes to alternative, parang kulang, pero nasolve yun ng speaker placement. medyo nilapit ko fronts sakin, galing! nag improved.  pero may combo ang ninong ko using an old Onkyo receiver + Infinity speakers (medyo OT) ganda tumunog.  Old amp na sya eh, kasi may LED pa sa volume knob, hindi infinite. tanda ko nasa 9 o' clock pa lang ganda na tumunog. ayos na ayos na kumanta ang mga Divas!

walang preouts ang amp ko eh. pero don't get me wrong I LIKE may combo now, baka lang hindi ko lang nauutilize ang capabilities  ng wharfes ko. O0



to Alvin
sobra pala mag-init amp mo. palagay ko dun napupunta ang kuryente na dapat sa speakers mo napupunta, nagiging heat. O0


to james
sayang, saan kaya ang site na sinsabi mo? familiar amps/receivers ba sa atin ang mga nabanggit doon?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: saltuhin on Dec 26, 2004 at 09:15 PM
what amplifier can anybody suggest as replacement for yamaha rxv 440? i have been using it for quite a while and it seems hindi na masyadong satisfactory in terms of audio. BTW i'm using 9.5s as fronts. medyo bitin sa power kasi i've tried pairing the 9.5s with an older Sony amp and it sounded better in terms of strictly audio listening. will a higher rated yamaha avr or another brand such as HK deliver the desired result?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Dec 26, 2004 at 10:06 PM
what amplifier can anybody suggest as replacement for yamaha rxv 440? i have been using it for quite a while and it seems hindi na masyadong satisfactory in terms of audio. BTW i'm using 9.5s as fronts. medyo bitin sa power kasi i've tried pairing the 9.5s with an older Sony amp and it sounded better in terms of strictly audio listening. will a higher rated yamaha avr or another brand such as HK deliver the desired result?

If your budget permits, you could try Harman/Kardon  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Dec 28, 2004 at 10:35 AM
hello to all.

i just got my diamond 9.1 from spectra. many thanks to jim for the wonderful service. and to all members here for all the wonderful and helpful posts.

sobrang happy ng christmas na to hehehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 28, 2004 at 10:42 AM
Congrats on your new toy!!!  ;D Meron pang New Year weekend for another new toy.  he he  ;D 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Dec 28, 2004 at 10:46 AM
Congrats on your new toy!!!  ;D Meron pang New Year weekend for another new toy.  he he  ;D 

that would be nice pro papatayin na ko ni misis :) she got me a nad c320bee for christmas pala :) pro baka pede ko ilusot yung lovan pagkatanggal nung christmas tree hehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Dec 28, 2004 at 11:44 AM
Congrats!  :o

Alisin nyo na agad yung Xmas tree para sa Lovan stand  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 29, 2004 at 08:10 AM
what amplifier can anybody suggest as replacement for yamaha rxv 440? i have been using it for quite a while and it seems hindi na masyadong satisfactory in terms of audio. BTW i'm using 9.5s as fronts. medyo bitin sa power kasi i've tried pairing the 9.5s with an older Sony amp and it sounded better in terms of strictly audio listening. will a higher rated yamaha avr or another brand such as HK deliver the desired result?

Correct si Control try Harman Kardon AVR..


hello to all.

i just got my diamond 9.1 from spectra. many thanks to jim for the wonderful service. and to all members here for all the wonderful and helpful posts.

sobrang happy ng christmas na to hehehe.

Congrats sa NAD and Wharf mo!!  :) :)

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 29, 2004 at 08:14 AM
sir hans,

1 year pa lang sya sa Feb 14 (eto ang naging date namin ng aking wife, hehehe)  palagay ko naman broken in na to. kasi gamit na gamit sya the first few months sya. tama ka nga yata sir sa description mo. warm. kasi when listening to "voices" na music/classical ayos na ayos eh. pero when it comes to alternative, parang kulang, pero nasolve yun ng speaker placement. medyo nilapit ko fronts sakin, galing! nag improved.  pero may combo ang ninong ko using an old Onkyo receiver + Infinity speakers (medyo OT) ganda tumunog.  Old amp na sya eh, kasi may LED pa sa volume knob, hindi infinite. tanda ko nasa 9 o' clock pa lang ganda na tumunog. ayos na ayos na kumanta ang mga Divas!

walang preouts ang amp ko eh. pero don't get me wrong I LIKE may combo now, baka lang hindi ko lang nauutilize ang capabilities  ng wharfes ko. O0


Bro hehehehe Kulang pa break in bigyan mo pa ng half year pa.. hehehehe kidding aside konti pa and good at you tried to move your speaker totoo yan a speaker placement kahit 1" lang galawin mo meron iiba sa sound.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Dec 29, 2004 at 08:28 AM


Congrats sa NAD and Wharf mo!!  :) :)



thank you sir hans :)

tanong ko na rin, medyo ot, the nad gets warm kahit na 7-8 oclock yung volume. is this normal?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 29, 2004 at 08:33 AM


thank you sir hans :)

tanong ko na rin, medyo ot, the nad gets warm kahit na 7-8 oclock yung volume. is this normal?


NOrmal yan heat pero mabilis ba mag init?? 30 mins, 1 hour mainit na basta you can still touch it walang problem meron ba vent/hole sa top cover.. pero kung hot talaga get a blower ( meron sa SM ) para sigurado.. I also used blower lalo na yun long listening.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Dec 29, 2004 at 08:37 AM

NOrmal yan heat pero mabilis ba mag init?? 30 mins, 1 hour mainit na basta you can still touch it walang problem meron ba vent/hole sa top cover.. pero kung hot talaga get a blower ( meron sa SM ) para sigurado.. I also used blower lalo na yun long listening.


nde naman mainit na mainit. just warm. i guess it's ok. thanks ulit sir hans. bagitong bagito pa kasi ako kaya praning hehehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 29, 2004 at 08:46 AM


nde naman mainit na mainit. just warm. i guess it's ok. thanks ulit sir hans. bagitong bagito pa kasi ako kaya praning hehehe.

Break in stage pa yan.. don't worry enjoy the music lang..  :) :)

Happy New Year!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: berniebau on Dec 30, 2004 at 12:03 AM


Bro hehehehe Kulang pa break in bigyan mo pa ng half year pa.. hehehehe kidding aside konti pa and good at you tried to move your speaker totoo yan a speaker placement kahit 1" lang galawin mo meron iiba sa sound.. ;D ;D

sana nga sir, every ounce of improvement certainly wouldn't hurt.  :)  pero nabasa ko nga somewhere that kevlar drivers takes hundreds of hours to really consider it as fully broken in.  O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: allvin_98 on Dec 30, 2004 at 12:15 PM


nde naman mainit na mainit. just warm. i guess it's ok. thanks ulit sir hans. bagitong bagito pa kasi ako kaya praning hehehe.

normal lang ang mainit.kabahan ka kapag hindi na siya uminit.hehehe.

Congrats sa bagong baby mo.hehehe.enjoy!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 04, 2005 at 07:26 AM
sana nga sir, every ounce of improvement certainly wouldn't hurt.  :)  pero nabasa ko nga somewhere that kevlar drivers takes hundreds of hours to really consider it as fully broken in.  O0

YUp kevlar woofer are long to break in like my Evo30 almost 9 months old na i taught broken in na but after hearing a 2 to 3 years old speaker naku parang di pa open yun sound ng speaker ko  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: j_albert22 on Jan 04, 2005 at 07:54 AM
YUp kevlar woofer are long to break in like my Evo30 almost 9 months old na i taught broken in na but after hearing a 2 to 3 years old speaker naku parang di pa open yun sound ng speaker ko  ;D ;D

pano mabebreak in di mo naman ginagamit dahil sa 9.2 hehehehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sebman on Jan 04, 2005 at 07:57 AM
pano mabebreak in di mo naman ginagamit dahil sa 9.2 hehehehehe

oo nga... yan na ata bago mong baby ngayun e...  ;D ot.. preng j_albert22.. nabuhay ka a.. musta na? me tube amp na ba?  ;)  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 04, 2005 at 08:00 AM
pano mabebreak in di mo naman ginagamit dahil sa 9.2 hehehehehe

Nasa Qc yun 9.2 sir yun Evo nasa Pasay hehehehe. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: j_albert22 on Jan 04, 2005 at 08:02 AM
oo nga... yan na ata bago mong baby ngayun e...  ;D ot.. preng j_albert22.. nabuhay ka a.. musta na? me tube amp na ba?  ;)  :D
hunting pa muna nang xformer try ko kay sir andrew ...............kuyang help mo ko dito
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: j_albert22 on Jan 04, 2005 at 08:03 AM
Nasa Qc yun 9.2 sir yun Evo nasa Pasay hehehehe. ;D ;D

ayan umamin na hehehehe >:D >:D dalawa ang inuuwian hehehehe >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 04, 2005 at 08:03 AM
hunting pa muna nang xformer try ko kay sir andrew ...............kuyang help mo ko dito

Tranny ba? bring your spec para mabilis ang order mo.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: j_albert22 on Jan 04, 2005 at 08:06 AM
Tranny ba? bring your spec para mabilis ang order mo.. ;D
for 20 watts push pull output impedance 16,8,and 4 ohms
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 04, 2005 at 08:15 AM
for 20 watts push pull output impedance 16,8,and 4 ohms

Power o Output??
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: j_albert22 on Jan 04, 2005 at 08:21 AM
Power o Output??
output tranny po c kuyang nagpapatawa o ;) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jacorb88 on Jan 04, 2005 at 08:40 AM
guys, just want to share that i recently acquired my hk130 paired with 9.4 (fronts, cs). still boxed though. i have yet to refurbish my audio/video rack. para bago tignan with my new babies.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sebman on Jan 04, 2005 at 08:43 AM
guys, just want to share that i recently acquired my hk130 paired with 9.4 (fronts, cs). still boxed though. i have yet to refurbish my audio/video rack. para bago tignan with my new babies.

congrats sir.... you got the right amp for your speakrs...  ;)  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jan 04, 2005 at 08:44 AM
guys, just want to share that i recently acquired my hk130 paired with 9.4 (fronts, cs). still boxed though. i have yet to refurbish my audio/video rack. para bago tignan with my new babies.

congrats sa new gears mo :) happy listening :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: j_albert22 on Jan 04, 2005 at 12:52 PM
guys, just want to share that i recently acquired my hk130 paired with 9.4 (fronts, cs). still boxed though. i have yet to refurbish my audio/video rack. para bago tignan with my new babies.

happy listening O0 O0 O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 04, 2005 at 02:12 PM
guys, just want to share that i recently acquired my hk130 paired with 9.4 (fronts, cs). still boxed though. i have yet to refurbish my audio/video rack. para bago tignan with my new babies.

Very good combo you have there Congrats!!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: james16 on Jan 05, 2005 at 12:28 AM
guys, just want to share that i recently acquired my hk130 paired with 9.4 (fronts, cs). still boxed though. i have yet to refurbish my audio/video rack. para bago tignan with my new babies.

congrats..... congrats.....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: allvin_98 on Jan 05, 2005 at 02:06 PM
guys, just want to share that i recently acquired my hk130 paired with 9.4 (fronts, cs). still boxed though. i have yet to refurbish my audio/video rack. para bago tignan with my new babies.

Naks paldo talaga si sir! hehehe.congrats! ang ganda sa movie and music yan....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Jan 06, 2005 at 06:12 AM
guys, just want to share that i recently acquired my hk130 paired with 9.4 (fronts, cs). still boxed though. i have yet to refurbish my audio/video rack. para bago tignan with my new babies.

congrats sir!
guys may balita na ba sa cherry or wood color ng diamond 9 series?
sana meron na.... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jan 06, 2005 at 07:33 AM
congrats sir!
guys may balita na ba sa cherry or wood color ng diamond 9 series?
sana meron na.... ;D

i was aiming for these finishes too. but since only the black ones are available, kinuha ko na. no regrets. they looked expensive and sophisticated when i got em home :) especially w/ the grills on.

madilim kc s spectra kaya nde labas ganda ng black.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Jan 07, 2005 at 08:55 AM
Up to today, order basis pa rin ang ibang color ng wharfe 9 series sa spectra.... 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Jan 07, 2005 at 12:34 PM
hay............ buti nalang i have gotten over this babies na, sa tagal ng pag hinihintay ng new colors nakahanap nako ng bagong luma. hehehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimosabe on Jan 07, 2005 at 02:41 PM
hay............ buti nalang i have gotten over this babies na, sa tagal ng pag hinihintay ng new colors nakahanap nako ng bagong luma. hehehe.

Congrats sa bagong luma mong speaker sir wanderlust. Ano ba yun?  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Jan 07, 2005 at 02:43 PM
Sapatos pre  ;D ;D Otto speaker (electrostatic) ribbon tweeter, heard it na and  :o sa sound.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Jan 07, 2005 at 03:02 PM
delikado yan speakers na yan ah! Lalo na pag naka-paa ka lang, biro mo eletro na static pa! :o Deathrow ka agad niyan!  :o  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 07, 2005 at 03:30 PM
delikado yan speakers na yan ah! Lalo na pag naka-paa ka lang, biro mo eletro na static pa! :o Deathrow ka agad niyan!  :o  ;D ;D

DOM Kimpao,

Pero wag mo sa sound hmmmm Electrifying!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Jan 07, 2005 at 03:44 PM
KOya,

Post ka na naman ng review sa surplus speaker thread  :o
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 07, 2005 at 04:13 PM
punk_kid,

Would just let the owner provide the review.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Jan 07, 2005 at 05:02 PM
Ahahaha..... ganda ng review mo bro  ;D

Guys,

Musta na mga diamond 9 nyo?  8)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 11, 2005 at 02:45 PM
Ahahaha..... ganda ng review mo bro  ;D

Guys,

Musta na mga diamond 9 nyo?  8)

KID_lat

Mine doing fine sayang lang was not able to use it last New year kasi gamit ko speaker ni Wanderlust..  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Jan 11, 2005 at 03:05 PM
no reviews as yet............. sa otto, hirap isuot pa e.  ;) patakbuhin ko na nga lang  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hustla on Jan 12, 2005 at 06:37 AM
any reviews on the 9.5?  which do you prefer 9.4 or 9.5?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hustla on Jan 12, 2005 at 06:37 AM
any reviews on the 9.5?  which do you prefer 9.4 or 9.5?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 12, 2005 at 02:11 PM
hustla,

My uncle have a 9.4 for me its a balance performer.. have auditioned 9.5 but fine it rolled off ( high ) or maybe needs break in pa since display unit pa lang yun..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Jan 12, 2005 at 02:55 PM
master hans.

di ba boomy yung 9.4 ng uncle mo sir? like the one's we heard last year.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 12, 2005 at 03:40 PM
master hans.

di ba boomy yung 9.4 ng uncle mo sir? like the one's we heard last year.

Di naman senor KID it just right for his room i even turn the tone control to 3oclock to gain some more bass hehehehe.. its much be the spikes. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Jan 12, 2005 at 03:44 PM
when we auditioned the 9.4 during our weekend session medyo boomy sya kaya some members were diasppointed... pero ok na pala so we can recommend it now  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 12, 2005 at 03:52 PM
when we auditioned the 9.4 during our weekend session medyo boomy sya kaya some members were diasppointed... pero ok na pala so we can recommend it now  ;D

Yes bro i will not recomend it and even buy it kung sablay hehehhee.. sure yun bro.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Jan 12, 2005 at 03:57 PM
Guys.

you heard the master! go get 'em  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hustla on Jan 13, 2005 at 11:08 PM
sir hans,

thanks for the advice! Got the 9.5 from Audio Excellance today though, after hours of head to head with the 9.4, i decided to go 9.5.  What made me decide?  Mids are clearer, there are instances kasi with the 9.4 na natatabunan ng bass ung mids. Highs are the same, and bass are definetly better, medyo nabitin kasi ako sa 9.4.  Tried it both with subs and w/o subs, i find the 9.5 more complete in terms of the bass.  Di na ko gagamit ng subs for audio.  And the biggest factor that made me decide.... 9.5 looks better.  Tingin ko kasi sa 9.4 mahabang 9.2.  Port of 9.5 is placed at the back w/c for me is better, and higher ang sensitivity at 88db.  And fyi, its a match with my Sherwood AVR.  Tried it with HK130, Sherwood RD7108, Denon 1804. 

Just my subjective findings.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Jan 14, 2005 at 05:55 AM
hustla,
congrats bro. ;) happy listening...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 14, 2005 at 12:11 PM
sir hans,

thanks for the advice! Got the 9.5 from Audio Excellance today though, after hours of head to head with the 9.4, i decided to go 9.5.  What made me decide?  Mids are clearer, there are instances kasi with the 9.4 na natatabunan ng bass ung mids. Highs are the same, and bass are definetly better, medyo nabitin kasi ako sa 9.4.  Tried it both with subs and w/o subs, i find the 9.5 more complete in terms of the bass.  Di na ko gagamit ng subs for audio.  And the biggest factor that made me decide.... 9.5 looks better.  Tingin ko kasi sa 9.4 mahabang 9.2.  Port of 9.5 is placed at the back w/c for me is better, and higher ang sensitivity at 88db.  And fyi, its a match with my Sherwood AVR.  Tried it with HK130, Sherwood RD7108, Denon 1804. 

Just my subjective findings.

Congrats bro!! notice that too 9.5 have better bass tha 9.4 and looks tama ka mas pogi yun dual woofer hehehe

Enjoy happy listening!! 9.2 hay weekend lang nagagamit. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Jan 14, 2005 at 02:27 PM
oy, mas maganda pala ha ang 9.5........... hmmmmm................  ;D ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 14, 2005 at 07:01 PM
oy, mas maganda pala ha ang 9.5........... hmmmmm................  ;D ;)

Senor Wanderlust,

What are you waiting for grap one unit na!!! ;) ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Jan 17, 2005 at 05:53 AM
Hindi na ako nakapaghintay ng ibang colour, bumili na ako ng black 9.1 and 9cs.  ;)
sarap pakiramdam....... :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Jan 17, 2005 at 09:43 AM
Hahahaha!!! senor vhongbiker... CONGRATS! di ka rin nakatiis  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Jan 17, 2005 at 10:42 AM
rosewood and beech color of the 9 series is now available
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimosabe on Jan 17, 2005 at 10:54 AM
Hindi na ako nakapaghintay ng ibang colour, bumili na ako ng black 9.1 and 9cs.  ;)
sarap pakiramdam....... :D

Sir vhongbiker sayang nagkaroon na ng ibang color, pero ok lang siguro mahalaga naman yung tunog di ba  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: backdraft on Jan 17, 2005 at 11:07 AM
rosewood and beech color of the 9 series is now available

o mga sir, eto na mga hinihintay nyo!!! ipa-ampon nyo na 8.3 nyo sakin  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Jan 17, 2005 at 12:08 PM
rosewood and beech color of the 9 series is now available

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh................ :-[ :-X :-\.
huhuhuhu... kung kailan nakabili na ako ng black. ;D
pero ok lang, pogi naman black eh, hehehe....(palusot)
FS: black colour 9.1 and 9cs, both for only 7k. hehehehe....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Jan 17, 2005 at 12:59 PM
how many are waiting for the 9.6 and the 9CM?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hustla on Jan 17, 2005 at 08:29 PM
Ako 9CM.  How much?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 18, 2005 at 07:35 AM
rosewood and beech color of the 9 series is now available

Dumating na rin pala.. tagal tagal  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: backdraft on Jan 18, 2005 at 07:47 AM
Dumating na rin pala.. tagal tagal  :)

Bili bili na sir  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Jan 18, 2005 at 11:16 AM
Ako 9CM.  How much?
no idea yet
ill just post it if there's a price already and stock
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Jan 18, 2005 at 12:09 PM
oy my other colors na.............. pano na yan!  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Jan 18, 2005 at 04:31 PM
the price for the 9.6 is 17500
9CM is 6300
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sebman on Jan 18, 2005 at 04:34 PM
pa-post din ng discounted cash price for the sw 150.. thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: moks on Jan 18, 2005 at 04:36 PM
can the yamaha rx-v440 drive the wharfdale diamond 9 series? i will basically use it for home theater purposes. what i know is that wharfdale speakers are kinda hard to drive considering it's sensitivity. thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 18, 2005 at 08:14 PM
can the yamaha rx-v440 drive the wharfdale diamond 9 series? i will basically use it for home theater purposes. what i know is that wharfdale speakers are kinda hard to drive considering it's sensitivity. thanks.

Bro give Spectra a visit meron sila both gears para ma test mo agad. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 18, 2005 at 08:15 PM
Bili bili na sir  >:D

Meron na bro.. black din 9.2..  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Jan 19, 2005 at 03:44 PM
Anyone auditioned the 9.6 already?  Kindly post your comments here.  :)

I've been considering these but still don't have time to visit the dealer.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Jan 19, 2005 at 04:37 PM
pa-post din ng discounted cash price for the sw 150.. thanks
still 9000
limited stocks remaining
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: saltuhin on Jan 19, 2005 at 07:34 PM
can the yamaha rx-v440 drive the wharfdale diamond 9 series? i will basically use it for home theater purposes. what i know is that wharfdale speakers are kinda hard to drive considering it's sensitivity. thanks.
This is exactly what I am using at the moment. You will be satisfied with HT but in terms of audio medyo mabibitin ka sa bass response saka medyo kulang sa clarity as compared to other amps. BTW I am using 9.5 sa fronts 9cs center saka 9.1 surrounds. Kung gamit ka subs for audio compensated ka na sa lacking na bass response although I would not recommend going in that direction.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 21, 2005 at 08:24 AM
This is exactly what I am using at the moment. You will be satisfied with HT but in terms of audio medyo mabibitin ka sa bass response saka medyo kulang sa clarity as compared to other amps. BTW I am using 9.5 sa fronts 9cs center saka 9.1 surrounds. Kung gamit ka subs for audio compensated ka na sa lacking na bass response although I would not recommend going in that direction.

Kulang lang sa break in yan bro..  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: saltuhin on Jan 21, 2005 at 07:16 PM
Parang characteristic talaga siya ng yamaha. Kasi before I was using a Sony prologic amp paired with Bose 301 sa fronts then nakapagupgrade ako with the yamaha 440. Bass response was diminished. Then with the 9.5 mas maganda na. Mas kumpleto na tunog saka malawak soundstage, mas nadedetermine mo yung tunog from where it is coming saka parang may depth.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 21, 2005 at 10:01 PM
Parang characteristic talaga siya ng yamaha. Kasi before I was using a Sony prologic amp paired with Bose 301 sa fronts then nakapagupgrade ako with the yamaha 440. Bass response was diminished. Then with the 9.5 mas maganda na. Mas kumpleto na tunog saka malawak soundstage, mas nadedetermine mo yung tunog from where it is coming saka parang may depth.

Uy ayos yan.. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Jan 21, 2005 at 10:50 PM
Uy ayos yan.. :)

hans,

musta na 9.2 mo?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Jan 23, 2005 at 02:01 AM
Just posted my impressions of the Diamond 9.5 over at Audio Asylum.  Check out the link and tell me if you share the same opinion about this fabulous speaker.

http://www.audioasylum.com/cgi/m.pl?forum=speakers&n=183991&review=1

Hey guys, I'm still hoping that someone would post a review of the 9.6.  I have this feeling that the 9.5 is merely the tip of the iceberg.  The dome midrange and bigger woofers seem promising.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Jan 24, 2005 at 11:17 AM
Just posted my impressions of the Diamond 9.5 over at Audio Asylum.  Check out the link and tell me if you share the same opinion about this fabulous speaker.

http://www.audioasylum.com/cgi/m.pl?forum=speakers&n=183991&review=1

Hey guys, I'm still hoping that someone would post a review of the 9.6.  I have this feeling that the 9.5 is merely the tip of the iceberg.  The dome midrange and bigger woofers seem promising.

the 9.6 is already available, rosewood beech black, here but the price is a bit high
its around 17500
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 25, 2005 at 10:34 AM
hans,

musta na 9.2 mo?

Jetok,

Senor Oks naman break in stage notice all around ito used it sa karaoke, movie & audio match sa surplus amp ko.. :) ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 25, 2005 at 10:36 AM
the 9.6 is already available, rosewood beech black, here but the price is a bit high
its around 17500

I was at Spectra yesterday kita ko yun 9.5 na rosewood hmmm tapos yun beech na 9.1.

Hay!!! bakit ngayon ka lang dumating.. :'( :'(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jan 25, 2005 at 10:50 AM
I was at Spectra yesterday kita ko yun 9.5 na rosewood hmmm tapos yun beech na 9.1.

Hay!!! bakit ngayon ka lang dumating.. :'( :'(

save the best for last daw hehehe

ok lang yan sir hans. maganda naman yung black 9.2 mo e :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Jan 25, 2005 at 12:34 PM
I was at Spectra yesterday kita ko yun 9.5 na rosewood hmmm tapos yun beech na 9.1.

Hay!!! bakit ngayon ka lang dumating.. :'( :'(

sir hans talagang ganyan. ;D pareho lang tayo, nakakuha din ako ng black, kaya nga hindi muna ako nagpupunta sa mga audio video store eh. hehehe.... MAAASAR AT MAIINIS LANG AKO SA SARILI KO. >:(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 25, 2005 at 08:28 PM
sir hans talagang ganyan. ;D pareho lang tayo, nakakuha din ako ng black, kaya nga hindi muna ako nagpupunta sa mga audio video store eh. hehehe.... MAAASAR AT MAIINIS LANG AKO SA SARILI KO. >:(

hehehehehe actually i love black color.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Jairus on Jan 26, 2005 at 09:48 AM
Arnel Enero,

Bro...that's a well written review on the 9.5.  Have you heard the SW150? Any reviews (can't seem to find one in the net)?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: fierari on Jan 26, 2005 at 08:22 PM
makano 9.5?  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jan 27, 2005 at 09:07 AM
makano 9.5?  ;D

~12500. go get 'em :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Jan 28, 2005 at 06:07 PM
Is the Diamond 9CM already available locally?  How much?

I noticed that the Diamond 9CS is not much different in overall sound than the Diamond 8 Centre.  The D8 Centre and the 9CS are already GREAT SOUNDING centers, but I am wondering whether the different, larger configuration of the 9CM, with its dedicated dome midrange, would mean yet another increase in sound quality over the smaller models... or just in dynamic capability.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Jan 29, 2005 at 10:58 PM
Just had the chance to compare the Diamond 9.5 vs. the Pacific Evo 40 for a short time.  Call me weird but on first impression, I couldn't tell any significant difference between the two!  I am sure that my ears CAN detect differences in sound even on short auditions... but really there seems to be a very thin line that sets these 2 speakers apart from each other, sonically.

Has Wharfedale achieved that much technical advancement that they were able to trickle down the Evo 40 technology into the Diamond 9.5 at less than half the price?  I think they have, and now I'm pretty sure that an even better Pacific lineup is in the works at this very moment, to cope with the excellent value for money that the Diamond 9 series brings.  Right now, I personally don't see any reason to prefer the Pacific Evo to the Diamond 9.

Ok... I'll be honest... mas nagustuhan ko yung midrange ng Diamond 9 kaysa ng Pacific Evo, but not significantly.  Mas may "presence" overall, but again by a narrow margin.  In all fairness, medyo mas malinis ang highs ng Pacific Evo if crank up the volume.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Red October on Jan 31, 2005 at 09:39 AM
Sir Spectra,

Do you have available roosewood color for diamond 9.2?

Cheers.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Jan 31, 2005 at 12:17 PM
Is the Diamond 9CM already available locally?  How much?

I noticed that the Diamond 9CS is not much different in overall sound than the Diamond 8 Centre.  The D8 Centre and the 9CS are already GREAT SOUNDING centers, but I am wondering whether the different, larger configuration of the 9CM, with its dedicated dome midrange, would mean yet another increase in sound quality over the smaller models... or just in dynamic capability.

its already available the price is 6300 cash
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Jan 31, 2005 at 12:19 PM
Sir Spectra,

Do you have available roosewood color for diamond 9.2?

Cheers.
its still available
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Red October on Jan 31, 2005 at 01:47 PM
Sir Spectra,

Thanks very much.  I might be there by 2nd week of Feb since I am here at Pamp.
My assignment lang po me for opis work.

I got an opismate dyan sa manila and I have convinced him to set-up a home theater and
highly recommended ko ung store nyo.

His budget is only 30K and he is not much inclined sa mga branded na sounds equipment but
I have recommended the wharfedale set-up kahit 8 series/Dynaquest(5.1) lang po. Bahala na po kayo sa
amp.

Anyway sama ko na lang sya pag punta namin po dyan.

More power.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Feb 01, 2005 at 11:25 AM
Sir Spectra,

Thanks very much.  I might be there by 2nd week of Feb since I am here at Pamp.
My assignment lang po me for opis work.

I got an opismate dyan sa manila and I have convinced him to set-up a home theater and
highly recommended ko ung store nyo.

His budget is only 30K and he is not much inclined sa mga branded na sounds equipment but
I have recommended the wharfedale set-up kahit 8 series/Dynaquest(5.1) lang po. Bahala na po kayo sa
amp.

Anyway sama ko na lang sya pag punta namin po dyan.

More power.


tnx a lot
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: agmjr on Feb 01, 2005 at 12:08 PM
mga sirs, patulong naman po. i've been scouting for wharfedales speakers but can't really decide what combination i would get.  i have a onkyo 501 receiver, use the system mainly for movies.  ano pong model ang bagay sa receiver ko? budget is around 25K. i am looking at a complete speaker system. any suggestions po? store and ballpark prices if available din po.  ty po.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: juneaki on Feb 01, 2005 at 01:27 PM
mga sirs, patulong naman po. i've been scouting for wharfedales speakers but can't really decide what combination i would get.  i have a onkyo 501 receiver, use the system mainly for movies.  ano pong model ang bagay sa receiver ko? budget is around 25K. i am looking at a complete speaker system. any suggestions po? store and ballpark prices if available din po.  ty po.


Onkyo 501 is a 6.1 AVR right? for Php 25k, i recommend a sub/sat setup using three pairs of Diamond 9.1 for fronts, center, surrounds and rear center and for subwoofer, Diamond 9 SW150. I believe kasya na ang budget mo para dito.


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sebman on Feb 01, 2005 at 02:08 PM
mga sirs, patulong naman po. i've been scouting for wharfedales speakers but can't really decide what combination i would get.  i have a onkyo 501 receiver, use the system mainly for movies.  ano pong model ang bagay sa receiver ko? budget is around 25K. i am looking at a complete speaker system. any suggestions po? store and ballpark prices if available din po.  ty po.


audition mo muna sir yung combo ng onkyo and wharfs.. medyo power hungry yang wharfedale e.. baka mabitin sa onkyo... mostly mordaunt short ang
ka-match ng onkyo or mission... audition mo din and let your ears decide sir... happy auditioning...  ;)  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Feb 01, 2005 at 09:22 PM
Just had the chance to compare the Diamond 9.5 vs. the Pacific Evo 40 for a short time.  Call me weird but on first impression, I couldn't tell any significant difference between the two!  I am sure that my ears CAN detect differences in sound even on short auditions... but really there seems to be a very thin line that sets these 2 speakers apart from each other, sonically.

Has Wharfedale achieved that much technical advancement that they were able to trickle down the Evo 40 technology into the Diamond 9.5 at less than half the price?  I think they have, and now I'm pretty sure that an even better Pacific lineup is in the works at this very moment, to cope with the excellent value for money that the Diamond 9 series brings.  Right now, I personally don't see any reason to prefer the Pacific Evo to the Diamond 9.

Ok... I'll be honest... mas nagustuhan ko yung midrange ng Diamond 9 kaysa ng Pacific Evo, but not significantly.  Mas may "presence" overall, but again by a narrow margin.  In all fairness, medyo mas malinis ang highs ng Pacific Evo if crank up the volume.

Nice review.. and must agree sweeter yun mids ng Diamond 9 compare sa Evo series that is more transparent... 9.2 reminded me of AE evo 1 mids na sweet din and highs are extended ( feeling ko lang ) than the Evo series considering both sport a soft dome tweeter ( baka sa crossover hmmm )..  :D :D :D

btw owned 9.2 & Evo30. ;D ;D



 

 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 04, 2005 at 07:03 PM
its already available the price is 6300 cash

Yup, I'm the one who recently bought your Beech 9CM.  It's a great center speaker!  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: renrico on Feb 04, 2005 at 08:04 PM
Hi Sirs,

I have been following this thread and have read some favorable remarks on the 9.2. I’m new in this hobby and I would like to ask for your opinion po.

I’m presently using a NAD-C320BEE with an 8.4, set-up at our living room approximately 5 x 7 meters in size, high ceiling (about 18ft). Frankly, I’m happy with the result although my wife and I think that bookshelf speakers would look better in our living room (with solid stands to match it with).

Would it be ok to replace my 8.4 with 9.2? Will it sound close to our existing set-up?

Thanks in advance po and appreciate your inputs.
 

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Feb 04, 2005 at 08:27 PM
Hi Sirs,

I have been following this thread and have read some favorable remarks on the 9.2. I’m new in this hobby and I would like to ask for your opinion po.

I’m presently using a NAD-C320BEE with an 8.4, set-up at our living room approximately 5 x 7 meters in size, high ceiling (about 18ft). Frankly, I’m happy with the result although my wife and I think that bookshelf speakers would look better in our living room (with solid stands to match it with).

Would it be ok to replace my 8.4 with 9.2? Will it sound close to our existing set-up?

Thanks in advance po and appreciate your inputs.
 

We have tried 9.2 in a 6 x 10meter room and it performed very good you'll be amazed with its balance sound ( high, mids & bass ) paired it with a 30watts Tube amp even at high volume it stand with composure.

Audition is the answer or if someone can lend you one yan ang DA best!! hehehehehe

btw here's a small review not exactly for the speaker but take note 9.2 and 9.4 was used out of the box hope this help.


Quote from Sir audioslave

I'm not an avid fan of tube-equipped gears until I auditioned the Consonance m99plus integrated tube amp. Tube amps are misconceived as expensive pieces of equipment and are available only to a privileged and moneyed audiophiles. Inasmuch as this amp had been mass-produced in China, they are reasonably priced to afford tube newbies like me to explore and experience the wonderfully magical sound of tubes. Thus, owning this competitively priced tube amp, sporting the Consonance brand, adds pride of ownership and brings tube quality sound within the budget of almost every music lover.

My sudden swing of preference and growing interest to tube amps was the result of my latest conclusion that CD sound can never approximate the analog sound of the resurrected vinyls. Be that as it may, a tube amp can nonetheless, give life to the clinical and harsh sound of most CD players, which can often sound smoother and more musical when played through a tube amplifier. This premise goes without saying that tube amps are the better amps if compared to solid state amps but since my musical preference is now leaning towards the quieter genre and more relaxing music, it necessarily follows that I have to follow the route that would put me closer to the music. Gone are the days when I crave for the slam-bang and kick-ass bass of a solid state amp. Now, my aural experience begins when I listen to the more soothing sound of tubes that occasionally brings shivers to the bone and spine-tingling sensation when playing some of my favorite CD tracks.

The m99plus features 4 Shuguang 6P3P output tubes (which can be replaced by 6L6s, KT-66s and 5881s), 2 Shuguang 6N8P driver tubes (which can be replaced by 6SN7s and VT-231s), 2 Electro-Harmonix 12AX7EH pre-amp tubes configured in a SRPP circuitry, 3 toroidal transformers, 3 gold plated line inputs, large high quality gold plated 5-way speaker binding posts in 8 ohms and 4 ohms tap, all housed in a massive metal chassis with wooded side panels, weighing almost 18 Kgs. The m99plus is a solid-state rectified amp and equipped with a solidly-built remote control allowing you to adjust the volume.

After almost 1 month of breaking-in, the transformers may have already settled down and are now bringing out the best sound they can get. The bass is fuller, the mids warmer and sweeter but the highs needs further extension and relatively rolled-off without much air. I went to the boondocks to test my amp with the new Wharfedales Diamond 9.2 and 9.4 which were loaned on home audition by Spectra Audio Video to hans adriene. Using a turn table as the source, the amp can easily cope up with fast beat music playing some tracks from the album of the Queen and The Cure without muddling the sound and faithfully bringing out each instrumentation with clarity and detail. Playing around with 6sn7s and 12ax7s spare tubes of some fellow members, we tried tube rolling different tubes to get a combination that would give a better sound. First, we tried changing the stock Shuguang 6N8P driver tubes to Sylvania 6SN7GTB. Remarkably, the amp began to breathe with so much atmosphere and seemingly unrestricted airiness. The soundstage simply became so expansive with dramatic improvement in the high frequency extension. Then we plugged RCA 6SN7GTBs and still obtained a similarly desirable sound than that offered by the stock Chinese tubes but the Sylvania 6SN7GTBs have smoother highs and better soundstage. We did try replacing the Electro-Harmonix 12ax7s with Telefunken 12ax7s and retained the RCA 6SN7GTBs as driver tubes - the result was, I guessed, the most optimal sound the m99+ can muster. Changing the RCA 6SN7GTBs with Sylvania 6SN7GTBs at the driver stage and retaining the Telefunkens on the linestage is a bit overkill and would somewhat give a hint of sibilance playing some Jeena Lodwick tracks. All these tubes were tried with the new Wharfedale Diamond 9.2 speakers bi-wired to the amp using XLO ER-14 and XLO PRO650F.

The amp became more imposing when hooked to kimpao's AMX tube pre-amp tweaked by no less than the emerging tweak master - JojoD. The m99+ with an active tube pre-amp is a tough act to follow as they jointly stirred up so much bloom and ambience. Even fingertip-friction sounds of the guitars can be heard with similar likeness. The sonic improvement conveyed by the pre-amp is like getting the singer closer to the audience, thus, bringing more life to the music.

With better tubes plugged to a good amp like m99+, the Wharfedale Diamond 9.2s suddenly became an instant hit among the listeners. In fact, the 9.2s are preferred over the 9.4s by many since the floorstander would sound boxy and sometimes boomy. One lesson learned is that - spending so much on speakers is not at all necessary as long as you have a good tube amp like the m99+.

Associated Equipment:

Yamaha CD Player
Technics Turn Table
AMX ConTodo MkII Pre-amp
XLO Pro650F
XLO ER14
DIY silver wire interconnects
Wharfedale Diamond 9.2s and 9.4s

 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 04, 2005 at 10:42 PM
I have been auditioning the Diamond 9CS for the past few months, together with the Diamond 9 fronts.   Just when I thought the 9CS was the best center speaker under P5,000, the 9CM arrived.  Yes, the 9CS is still my best bet under P5000, but only because the 9CM goes beyond this price point, but not by much (it's P6,300).  Indeed, the 9CM is my best bet under P10,000.

It's funny coz I bought this speaker even without enough auditioning.  When I found out that Spectra had a beech-color 9CM on stock, I immediately asked to hear it.  I normally wouldn't rely on an audition in an environment such as in Spectra (the space was not designed for critical auditioning anyway)... but after hearing the 9CM and 9CS side-by-side, for less than 10 minutes, I grabbed the unit... baka kasi mabili na agad ng ibang members dito.  :D

Meron pa yatang rosewood na naiwan dun...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Feb 05, 2005 at 11:21 AM
Sir Spectra,
available na ba 9.0?
want to buy for surround.

thanks ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 05, 2005 at 11:53 AM
Sir Spectra,
available na ba 9.0?
want to buy for surround.

thanks ;)

If I may just interrupt for a while, why not just get a 9SR for surrounds? These are excellent performers, and I even use them in straight stereo in my bedroom system.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Feb 05, 2005 at 03:34 PM
Sir Spectra,
available na ba 9.0?
want to buy for surround.

thanks ;)
9.0 is not available, it comes only in the package of 9ht
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on Feb 05, 2005 at 03:39 PM
what's the difference between the 9.0 and the 9.1?

also would you guys consider the 9series to be more on the warm or bright side?(yung nabreak-in na) 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 06, 2005 at 01:43 AM
what's the difference between the 9.0 and the 9.1?

also would you guys consider the 9series to be more on the warm or bright side?(yung nabreak-in na) 

Opinion ko lang, the 9 series is slightly on the warm side. But since warm vs. bright is relative, I would like to make clear that my "reference" bookshelf speakers, which to me represent midway between warm and bright, are the B&W Signature 805 and Revel Performa M20.

Dahil medyo warm ang Diamond 9, you can have long listening sessions, or watch several movies, at high volume levels without much listening fatigue.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: renrico on Feb 07, 2005 at 10:43 AM
We have tried 9.2 in a 6 x 10meter room and it performed very good you'll be amazed with its balance sound ( high, mids & bass ) paired it with a 30watts Tube amp even at high volume it stand with composure.

Audition is the answer or if someone can lend you one yan ang DA best!! hehehehehe

btw here's a small review not exactly for the speaker but take note 9.2 and 9.4 was used out of the box hope this help.


Quote from Sir audioslave

I'm not an avid fan of tube-equipped gears until I auditioned the Consonance m99plus integrated tube amp. Tube amps are misconceived as expensive pieces of equipment and are available only to a privileged and moneyed audiophiles. Inasmuch as this amp had been mass-produced in China, they are reasonably priced to afford tube newbies like me to explore and experience the wonderfully magical sound of tubes. Thus, owning this competitively priced tube amp, sporting the Consonance brand, adds pride of ownership and brings tube quality sound within the budget of almost every music lover.

My sudden swing of preference and growing interest to tube amps was the result of my latest conclusion that CD sound can never approximate the analog sound of the resurrected vinyls. Be that as it may, a tube amp can nonetheless, give life to the clinical and harsh sound of most CD players, which can often sound smoother and more musical when played through a tube amplifier. This premise goes without saying that tube amps are the better amps if compared to solid state amps but since my musical preference is now leaning towards the quieter genre and more relaxing music, it necessarily follows that I have to follow the route that would put me closer to the music. Gone are the days when I crave for the slam-bang and kick-ass bass of a solid state amp. Now, my aural experience begins when I listen to the more soothing sound of tubes that occasionally brings shivers to the bone and spine-tingling sensation when playing some of my favorite CD tracks.

The m99plus features 4 Shuguang 6P3P output tubes (which can be replaced by 6L6s, KT-66s and 5881s), 2 Shuguang 6N8P driver tubes (which can be replaced by 6SN7s and VT-231s), 2 Electro-Harmonix 12AX7EH pre-amp tubes configured in a SRPP circuitry, 3 toroidal transformers, 3 gold plated line inputs, large high quality gold plated 5-way speaker binding posts in 8 ohms and 4 ohms tap, all housed in a massive metal chassis with wooded side panels, weighing almost 18 Kgs. The m99plus is a solid-state rectified amp and equipped with a solidly-built remote control allowing you to adjust the volume.

After almost 1 month of breaking-in, the transformers may have already settled down and are now bringing out the best sound they can get. The bass is fuller, the mids warmer and sweeter but the highs needs further extension and relatively rolled-off without much air. I went to the boondocks to test my amp with the new Wharfedales Diamond 9.2 and 9.4 which were loaned on home audition by Spectra Audio Video to hans adriene. Using a turn table as the source, the amp can easily cope up with fast beat music playing some tracks from the album of the Queen and The Cure without muddling the sound and faithfully bringing out each instrumentation with clarity and detail. Playing around with 6sn7s and 12ax7s spare tubes of some fellow members, we tried tube rolling different tubes to get a combination that would give a better sound. First, we tried changing the stock Shuguang 6N8P driver tubes to Sylvania 6SN7GTB. Remarkably, the amp began to breathe with so much atmosphere and seemingly unrestricted airiness. The soundstage simply became so expansive with dramatic improvement in the high frequency extension. Then we plugged RCA 6SN7GTBs and still obtained a similarly desirable sound than that offered by the stock Chinese tubes but the Sylvania 6SN7GTBs have smoother highs and better soundstage. We did try replacing the Electro-Harmonix 12ax7s with Telefunken 12ax7s and retained the RCA 6SN7GTBs as driver tubes - the result was, I guessed, the most optimal sound the m99+ can muster. Changing the RCA 6SN7GTBs with Sylvania 6SN7GTBs at the driver stage and retaining the Telefunkens on the linestage is a bit overkill and would somewhat give a hint of sibilance playing some Jeena Lodwick tracks. All these tubes were tried with the new Wharfedale Diamond 9.2 speakers bi-wired to the amp using XLO ER-14 and XLO PRO650F.

The amp became more imposing when hooked to kimpao's AMX tube pre-amp tweaked by no less than the emerging tweak master - JojoD. The m99+ with an active tube pre-amp is a tough act to follow as they jointly stirred up so much bloom and ambience. Even fingertip-friction sounds of the guitars can be heard with similar likeness. The sonic improvement conveyed by the pre-amp is like getting the singer closer to the audience, thus, bringing more life to the music.

With better tubes plugged to a good amp like m99+, the Wharfedale Diamond 9.2s suddenly became an instant hit among the listeners. In fact, the 9.2s are preferred over the 9.4s by many since the floorstander would sound boxy and sometimes boomy. One lesson learned is that - spending so much on speakers is not at all necessary as long as you have a good tube amp like the m99+.

Associated Equipment:

Yamaha CD Player
Technics Turn Table
AMX ConTodo MkII Pre-amp
XLO Pro650F
XLO ER14
DIY silver wire interconnects
Wharfedale Diamond 9.2s and 9.4s

 

Thanks Sir hans adriane. Appreciate your feedback.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on Feb 07, 2005 at 11:07 AM
sw250 is now available
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on Feb 07, 2005 at 12:51 PM
Opinion ko lang, the 9 series is slightly on the warm side. But since warm vs. bright is relative, I would like to make clear that my "reference" bookshelf speakers, which to me represent midway between warm and bright, are the B&W Signature 805 and Revel Performa M20.

Dahil medyo warm ang Diamond 9, you can have long listening sessions, or watch several movies, at high volume levels without much listening fatigue.

got it sir arnel.  thanks for the info! :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Feb 07, 2005 at 05:54 PM
sw250 is now available

how much sir?  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 07, 2005 at 07:27 PM
AVGuide Monthly just reviewed the Diamond 9.6, and it's a good news that the entire issue is available for download FREE. Click here to download. (http://www.avguide.com/AVG_monthly/issue12_hispeed.pdf)


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: backdraft on Feb 08, 2005 at 05:24 AM
AVGuide Monthly just reviewed the Diamond 9.6, and it's a good news that the entire issue is available for download FREE. Click here to download. (http://www.avguide.com/AVG_monthly/issue12_hispeed.pdf)




ok to sir ah, sana every issue meron!  >:D >:D >:D

salamat sir arnel. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 08, 2005 at 07:53 AM
AVGuide Monthly just reviewed the Diamond 9.6, and it's a good news that the entire issue is available for download FREE. Click here to download. (http://www.avguide.com/AVG_monthly/issue12_hispeed.pdf)




thanks for the link, arnel :) i've read through many forums saying the new diamonds are just hype. and that what hifi has been praising the diamonds just because of the wharfedale's sponsorship. and that no other magazine is sharing the same review.

i'm glad avguide came up w/ one. hope we read more in the coming days.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Feb 08, 2005 at 10:41 AM
AVGuide Monthly just reviewed the Diamond 9.6, and it's a good news that the entire issue is available for download FREE. Click here to download. (http://www.avguide.com/AVG_monthly/issue12_hispeed.pdf)




Excellent pdf, contains reviews on receivers, speakers and players discussed in most threads here.  Would benefit members interested in these wares.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 09, 2005 at 01:30 PM
thanks for the link, arnel :) i've read through many forums saying the new diamonds are just hype. and that what hifi has been praising the diamonds just because of the wharfedale's sponsorship. and that no other magazine is sharing the same review.

i'm glad avguide came up w/ one. hope we read more in the coming days.

Given the reputation of Absolute Sound, from the same publisher of AVGuide Monthly, I trust that the Diamond 9 is more than hype.  Personally, I trust my ears more, and I've heard and own some Diamond 9 models, and I agree with what AVGuide, and What Hi-Fi for that matter, have been raving about.

Siguro naman almost lahat ng nasa thread na ito would agree that Diamond 9 series offers great performance at a very consumer-friendly price.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 09, 2005 at 01:59 PM
Given the reputation of Absolute Sound, from the same publisher of AVGuide Monthly, I trust that the Diamond 9 is more than hype.  Personally, I trust my ears more, and I've heard and own some Diamond 9 models, and I agree with what AVGuide, and What Hi-Fi for that matter, have been raving about.

Siguro naman almost lahat ng nasa thread na ito would agree that Diamond 9 series offers great performance at a very consumer-friendly price.

thanks, arnel for the reply :)

im quite new in this hobby and it gives me peace of mind knowing i acquired good gears and that i'm heading at the right direction. it's just troubling that i get to read through forums that say otherwise. i really feel like i'm reading through a BOSE thread :( making me really consider upgrading.

im no audiophile, but i can trust my ears more now :) i may or may not be hearing the best at this price point, but i can say the sound it's definitely good.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on Feb 09, 2005 at 05:34 PM
sirs just wanted to add i also agree with the review of what hi-fi on the diamond 9.1 although i was only able to appreciate it more when it's biwired.  i haven't heard the rest of the series but if you can biwire them, it'll sound really good.  laki ng difference compared to single-wire.   

Given the reputation of Absolute Sound, from the same publisher of AVGuide Monthly, I trust that the Diamond 9 is more than hype.  Personally, I trust my ears more, and I've heard and own some Diamond 9 models, and I agree with what AVGuide, and What Hi-Fi for that matter, have been raving about.

Siguro naman almost lahat ng nasa thread na ito would agree that Diamond 9 series offers great performance at a very consumer-friendly price.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 11, 2005 at 04:49 PM
im no audiophile, but i can trust my ears more now :) i may or may not be hearing the best at this price point, but i can say the sound it's definitely good.

First, always remember that in audio, choosing gear is much a matter of personal taste.  This is why we all own different gears... and to each of us, this is the best one for our budget, at least back in the time we bought it.

Don't worry about what a basher in some other forum would say, coz you are right... you SHOULD trust your own ears... it's not like you're buying your gears for THEM anyway.  What sounds good to you is indeed what would give you listening pleasure, and hence the one you should have in your listening space.

Still I'm happy that many people here share my appreciation of the Diamond 9 series.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 11, 2005 at 05:03 PM
sirs just wanted to add i also agree with the review of what hi-fi on the diamond 9.1 although i was only able to appreciate it more when it's biwired.  i haven't heard the rest of the series but if you can biwire them, it'll sound really good.  laki ng difference compared to single-wire.   

I agree that biwiring makes a difference.  However, the degree by which biwiring makes the sound better depends on how good your wires are in the first place.  If you use a good "designer" speaker cable, you might not gain much by bi-wiring as compared to a single run of that cable.  For example, I use van den Hul cables for my Diamond 9 CM, and I don't hear much difference between single- and bi-wire.  But still I bi-wire them just because I got two runs of cable anyway, so nothing to lose. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jacorb88 on Feb 11, 2005 at 05:28 PM
i read a write-up on bi-wiring. they conducted a scientific test between bi-wired and not. they presented several graphs, facts and figures. the outcome: very little difference to justify the cost of the additional run of the spkr cable. i claim no expertise on this subject but i guess, this matter is very much debatable.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Feb 11, 2005 at 05:59 PM
Statistical Double Blind Testing (DBT) have yet to establish that bi-wiring makes any difference that can be audibly detected in the test.  Whatever benefit there is appears to come purely from the fact that the wire gauge is doubled.  WHich mathematically should provide lesser resistive impedance when using cable lengths above 30ft.  Lessening the wire resistance is always welcome. Even if that's just computational.   But the sonic differences are too minute to audibly matter.  If there are people who can hear differences, good for them. But that's suspiciously more a product of suggested subjectivity than anything scientific.  DBT is the ONLY scientific way to establish any difference.  But sadly or happilly, audiophiles do not engage in DBTs in this hobby in the privacy of their listening rooms.  ;D  I too am hard pressed to report any sonic difference.  But I also bi-wire, if only to decrease resistive impedance from a purely mathematical exercise and a comforting thought. Not because I hear difference.  In fact, there was a nice scientific article about the adverse effect of bi-wiring (just didn't bookmark the site) that  allegedly smears whatever phase coherence there is between the tweets and the woofs. But I leave that to the reader to explore.   

Bi-amping is another story.  That's where the sonic benefits can become apparent. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Feb 11, 2005 at 06:02 PM
Just had the chance to compare the Diamond 9.5 vs. the Pacific Evo 40 for a short time.  Call me weird but on first impression, I couldn't tell any significant difference between the two!  I am sure that my ears CAN detect differences in sound even on short auditions... but really there seems to be a very thin line that sets these 2 speakers apart from each other, sonically.

Has Wharfedale achieved that much technical advancement that they were able to trickle down the Evo 40 technology into the Diamond 9.5 at less than half the price?  I think they have, and now I'm pretty sure that an even better Pacific lineup is in the works at this very moment, to cope with the excellent value for money that the Diamond 9 series brings.  Right now, I personally don't see any reason to prefer the Pacific Evo to the Diamond 9.

Ok... I'll be honest... mas nagustuhan ko yung midrange ng Diamond 9 kaysa ng Pacific Evo, but not significantly.  Mas may "presence" overall, but again by a narrow margin.  In all fairness, medyo mas malinis ang highs ng Pacific Evo if crank up the volume.

Arnel,

Bro just curious san mo na audition EVo40? wala pa ako nakita nun. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Feb 11, 2005 at 06:11 PM
The Pacific Evo series was designed specifically to cater to a more upscale market than the market intended for the Diamonds.  Pressumably using better crossovers and drivers, the Pacific Evo should have sonic qualities that better the Diamond 8 series.  The curvy non-rectagular cross-section of the Diamond 9 inherits from that of the Pacific Evo line.  Internal standing waves that can modulate the drivers are reduced with this enclosure geometry.  So maybe the Diamond 9 series can approach the sonics of the Evo line in some areas.  Just a thought.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 11, 2005 at 09:47 PM
i read a write-up on bi-wiring. they conducted a scientific test between bi-wired and not. they presented several graphs, facts and figures. the outcome: very little difference to justify the cost of the additional run of the spkr cable. i claim no expertise on this subject but i guess, this matter is very much debatable.

kaya nga ako parang nagdadalawang isip mag-biwire. i try hard to understand principles concerning this hobby pro parang nde bumenta sa kin yung biwiring :( i very much hope to see a universally accepted mathematical proof, for or against biwiring, soon...para matapos na itong debateng ito.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 12, 2005 at 12:14 AM
i read a write-up on bi-wiring. they conducted a scientific test between bi-wired and not. they presented several graphs, facts and figures. the outcome: very little difference to justify the cost of the additional run of the spkr cable. i claim no expertise on this subject but i guess, this matter is very much debatable.

I am guessing that they used very high quality cables, that is why the difference is much less.  Try this at home, use a very cheap 18-guage (or so) cable and run that in both single- and bi-wire to a Diamond 9 or similar speaker.  You'll hear the difference, unless you're really lucky with cables, or your speaker's resolution is not high enough to distinguish the difference.  This experiment won't cost you much.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 12, 2005 at 12:37 AM
Arnel,

Bro just curious san mo na audition EVo40? wala pa ako nakita nun. :)

Heard the Evo 40 in the same house where I auditioned the Diamond 9.5.  That was a house, not a showroom.  I haven't seen any Evo 40 in any showroom locally.  Spectra has Evo 8 and Evo 10, but I didn't see any bigger Evo's there.

But the first time I heard the Evo was in Beijing (where they were real cheap) some two years ago.  I didn't care about them then, not because they were not good, but because I was looking for planar speakers.  In short, I didn't audition them.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 12, 2005 at 12:56 AM
kaya nga ako parang nagdadalawang isip mag-biwire. i try hard to understand principles concerning this hobby pro parang nde bumenta sa kin yung biwiring :( i very much hope to see a universally accepted mathematical proof, for or against biwiring, soon...para matapos na itong debateng ito.

If only all speakers are NOT bi-wirable, tapos nga itong debate.  :) 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on Feb 12, 2005 at 03:12 AM
I agree that biwiring makes a difference.  However, the degree by which biwiring makes the sound better depends on how good your wires are in the first place.  If you use a good "designer" speaker cable, you might not gain much by bi-wiring as compared to a single run of that cable.  For example, I use van den Hul cables for my Diamond 9 CM, and I don't hear much difference between single- and bi-wire.  But still I bi-wire them just because I got two runs of cable anyway, so nothing to lose. :)

you're probably right sirs...when i started biwiring before with van den hul(tweets) and audio pro silver wires(woofer) and it didn't sound good.  then retaining the same for the tweets and using gauge 12 speaker wires(copper) from ace hardware(have them around too) for the woofer it was then that i noticed a big improvement in the dynamics.  i wasn't able to compare different wires when i used single-wire though...but the one i used was audio pro so that's probably why the sound was so bad. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Feb 12, 2005 at 10:20 AM
taggart,

Try experiment changing the metal jumper with speaker wire and hear if have difference. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 12, 2005 at 12:22 PM
taggart,

Try experiment changing the metal jumper with speaker wire and hear if have difference. :)

eto ang bumenta sa akin :) anyway, i'll try biwiring na. i have extra runs of cable naman. will be using 12 ga for both LF and HF. will post results soon. hopefully, positive ones :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on Feb 12, 2005 at 02:15 PM
will look for spare wires to play with and try that out hehe...thanks!

taggart,

Try experiment changing the metal jumper with speaker wire and hear if have difference. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hans_adriane on Feb 12, 2005 at 09:35 PM
eto ang bumenta sa akin :) anyway, i'll try biwiring na. i have extra runs of cable naman. will be using 12 ga for both LF and HF. will post results soon. hopefully, positive ones :)

Bro, biwiring try to check the small details and separation ;D i suggest you use silver wires for HF and copper for LF.  ;D ;D silver wire good for vocals while copper wire for slam.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 12, 2005 at 09:50 PM
Bro, biwiring try to check the small details and separation ;D i suggest you use silver wires for HF and copper for LF.  ;D ;D silver wire good for vocals while copper wire for slam.

sir hans,

bu silver, you mean the silver-colored ones like the audio pro?

thanks :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 13, 2005 at 07:43 AM
sir hans,

bu silver, you mean the silver-colored ones like the audio pro?

thanks :)

Be careful... pure silver wire is not the same as silver-plated copper wire.

Pure silver wires can be VERY expensive, yet can sound real anemic if you use it for bass.  But if you use it for your tweeters, it can give you sonic wonders.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: synchro on Feb 13, 2005 at 07:59 AM
Be careful... pure silver wire is not the same as silver-plated copper wire.

Pure silver wires can be VERY expensive, yet can sound real anemic if you use it for bass.  But if you use it for your tweeters, it can give you sonic wonders.

very true.  the ones that you see being retailed for a few hundred bucks per metre are merely silver colored ones. I remember seeing the real deal at Listening in Style a few years ago. The retail price of the pure silver ire that they have there is Php350T for a stereo run. too bad I wasnt able to audition it with the multitude of high end speakers they have there.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 13, 2005 at 08:24 AM
sobrang mahal pala yang silver wires na yan. guess i'll have to stick w/ the generic that i have :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Feb 14, 2005 at 09:50 AM
sobrang mahal pala yang silver wires na yan. guess i'll have to stick w/ the generic that i have :)

Bro try to look for Belden wire for silver. :) again sa HF mo lang gamitin and not sa LF kasi yun slam ng bass mawawala kaya copper naman for LF.

Happy hunting..

We tried this combo belden wire + Xlo pro 650f.  ;D ;D or for silver meron ata CAT5 but not sure though.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 14, 2005 at 09:57 AM
Bro try to look for Belden wire for silver. :) again sa HF mo lang gamitin and not sa LF kasi yun slam ng bass mawawala kaya copper naman for LF.

Happy hunting..

We tried this combo belden wire + Xlo pro 650f.  ;D ;D or for silver meron ata CAT5 but not sure though.



thanks, sir hans for the suggestions :) ive seen many belden wires sa office namin. baka me silver dun hehehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Feb 14, 2005 at 10:02 AM
thanks, sir hans for the suggestions :) ive seen many belden wires sa office namin. baka me silver dun hehehe.

Yun pinakamataba hanapin mo. :) btw meron direction just follow the print to the direction going to speaker yun if you got a new wire break in konti tapos play some vocals muna and instrument hehehehe. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Feb 14, 2005 at 12:11 PM
very true.  the ones that you see being retailed for a few hundred bucks per metre are merely silver colored ones. I remember seeing the real deal at Listening in Style a few years ago. The retail price of the pure silver ire that they have there is Php350T for a stereo run. too bad I wasnt able to audition it with the multitude of high end speakers they have there.

Another rip-off, if you ask me.  Silver wire is just about 8% better than copper of the same purityin terms of electrical conductivity.  And a 99.99% silver wire can be had for about $12 per ounce and doesn/t really have wild swings in the metals market.  A ounce of 99.99% silver can yield 7 feet of 16 awg thickness. 

Here's a good site for making your own silver wire:
http://www.laventure.net/tourist/cables.htm
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: qguy on Feb 14, 2005 at 12:52 PM
for 350T...you might as well hire a jeweler and make gold wires...hehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 14, 2005 at 01:10 PM
for 350T...you might as well hire a jeweler and make gold wires...hehe

nice one there, qguy :) oh well, ganun talaga e. it's really up for the hobbyist to decide, though. but it's good that we have forums like pinoydvd to discuss these things :)

im for good quality generics. whether copper, silver or gold. or platinum :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: synchro on Feb 14, 2005 at 01:46 PM
Another rip-off, if you ask me.  Silver wire is just about 8% better than copper of the same purity.  And a 99.99% silver wire can be had for about $12 per ounce and doesn/t really have wild swings in the metals market.  A ounce of 99.99% silver can yield 7 feet of 16 awg thickness. 


I forgot the brand of the cable but I do recall being shellshocked when they told me the sticker price of that cable.
Most of their gears are of the ultra high end variety that no mere mortal can afford so when us mere mortals hear of their sticker prices we do get shocked.  You got to have a really hefty paycheck to get a chance at taking those gears home with you. hard to believe that there really is a market for such ultra high end gears but apparently there really are people who can well afford such monsters.
balik tayo sa cable...come to think of it if you get their multi million peso speakers and 2 million peso amplifiers (x 2 pa kasi mono amps) then getting those Php350T speaker cables would do justice for your amp-speaker set up.  :)

para hindi OT:  Wharfedales do sing better with cables that are very transparent and revealing. as we all know that most wharfes have this tendency to muffle the "air" of the top end.  mating it with cables that are revealing should at  the very least improve this trait if not eliminate it. experiment with bi-wire since the speakers does have this option. if you get it right then stick to it.

Tip.....try to beg, borrow or steal cables first before puchasing a new set. each brand and model sounds very different when compared to each other (that is with my ears, my set, my room, my music and my opinion).
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 14, 2005 at 03:22 PM
Hey guys, have you been to Park Square 1 lately?  Just noticed na bidang bida ngayon dun ang Diamond 9.6, na after a long wait, finally ni-release na rin sa stores.  There are 2 stores where I noticed a pair of beech color 9.6's.

I was about to buy these, considering that I was impressed by the 9.5 for its unmatched value for money.  But I've waited long, in fact too long, na nainip na ako... I didn't like the idea of blindedly ordering these, and the display units never got to the stores for a long time.  Good thing, a good fellow offered me a good swap deal for a pair of Magnepan planars... ayun I can't be any happier with what I'm hearing in my living room!

In any case, I'm still interested in finding time (kelan kaya) to audition the 9.6.  I'm not expecting it to be any better (not even close) than my newly-acquired Magnepans, but hey the 9.6 is less than 20K !!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: obey on Feb 14, 2005 at 04:20 PM
Synchro,

Would you be able to enumerate a few cables that are revealing and transparent just so that the newbies (myself included) would have an idea. Thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Feb 14, 2005 at 04:22 PM


balik tayo sa cable...come to think of it if you get their multi million peso speakers and 2 million peso amplifiers (x 2 pa kasi mono amps) then getting those Php350T speaker cables would do justice for your amp-speaker set up.  :)


Not necessarly.  P350T is still P350T which can buy a nice B&W Nautilus 800 series center or pair.  ;D

I used to share you opinion: "binabagayan lang."  That's what I used to say.   Not anymore.

I've seen some set-ups on the net using expensive Wilson Audio and Nautilus speakers mated to Bryston and Thiele amps using mere $1.50/foot 10 gauge speaker cables. 

Even THX-certified theater systems using equipment 10X more expensive than the most expensive home systems use ordinary cables.  And to think THX wants home entertainment systems to sound like what you hear in THX theaters.  ;D

When you start to consider that some of the most expensive speakers just use ordinary 16AWG or 14AWG wires internally to connect crossovers to drivers and are soldered to speaker terminals, and that some of the finest tube and SS amps use plain 10AWG wires to connect the circuit board to the speaker terminals, I begin to wonder what point there is to using expensive cables betweeen the speaker and the amp.  Even more so when you consider that those solid wires used for speaker voice coils are just plain 18AWG wires or less.  They're not even silver!! ;D

Well, that's also just an opinion of mine.  But one shared by statistical bias-controlled double blind testing that is said to be the only scientific way to establish and validate any kind of perception-based difference between products.  And todate,  not a single DBT has ever established any audible difference between expensive cables and zip cords. 

That's not to say that P350T cables have no place in hobby.  OFcourse they do.  The power of suggestion is everywhere in this hobby.    And this hobby is so personal it has so much room for both biased and objective perceptions.  ;D   It's all up to one's ears and wallets.  SO happens my own ears can't distinguish between well-made cables.  That's good for my wallet.  ;D Just my thoughts.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 14, 2005 at 04:42 PM

I forgot the brand of the cable but I do recall being shellshocked when they told me the sticker price of that cable.
Most of their gears are of the ultra high end variety that no mere mortal can afford so when us mere mortals hear of their sticker prices we do get shocked.  You got to have a really hefty paycheck to get a chance at taking those gears home with you. hard to believe that there really is a market for such ultra high end gears but apparently there really are people who can well afford such monsters.
balik tayo sa cable...come to think of it if you get their multi million peso speakers and 2 million peso amplifiers (x 2 pa kasi mono amps) then getting those Php350T speaker cables would do justice for your amp-speaker set up.  :)

Well, designing high-end cables are pretty much a black art... there's no defined standards, no accepted rules.  I still believe that the conductor type, purity, gauge and geometry of the wires do matter, and many accept that.  However, I what I don't accept is the rationale behind ultra-expensive, exotic cables.

Wait, there's one thing that I firmly believe in... it's that "network box" found in high-end (not exotic) cables such as MIT and Transparent.  I really hear the difference from normal cables... the sound is just bigger in scale.  However, I don't mean the ultra-expensive MITs or Transparents, even the reasonably priced models (such as the MIT Terminator 3s that I use at home) make a huge difference from normal cables... the higher up you go in the product lines, the less incremental difference you get.

So to me, quality cabling is good... but ultra-expensive cabling is just too much of a good thing.  Even if I had millions, I don't feel the need for those exotic stuff.  I'm not ready to spend tons of money for that last ounce of sound quality... i'm just being practical.

Now since we are still talking about Wharfedale Diamond 9 (right?), the bottomline is, you don't need expensive cables.  Remember that these speakers were designed to match reasonably-priced electronics and other components.  They may not possess high enough resolution to even show the difference between expensive cables... but don't take me wrong, the Diamond 9 speakers still need good cabling... debatably, biwired.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Feb 14, 2005 at 05:47 PM
The expensive exotic cable maybe for those who have tried it that it works (on their wharf 9 series, para di OT  ;D)  - though not necessarily understood why it worked in the first place.  :-\

Best cable of one (wharf 9) user may not be the best cable for another (wharf 9 user) - this is why there is no definite rule to the right cable. Simply because, there is no rule which brand of amp and what type (tube of SS) of amp to use in the first place.

Geometry may play some factor in the sound reproduction - just because of the amount of inductance a certain geometry introduce in the cable - more inductance, bad HF repro.

Hi-end (exotic ???, ripped-off :P, etc) cable are normally capacitive, so bad for the LF repro. Some of this so-called hi-end have network box. It is nothing but resistor network to counteract the capacitance/inductance of their cable. The direction in cable can somehow sound funny for typical wire-mentality - but it might be needed if the cable manufacturer intended which resistor network is in the (wharf 9) speaker side and which is in the amp side.

Most tube amps are so sensitive to capacitive cable - SS  are not, though some exotic SS amps are quite vulnerable as well. Silver wire are sometimes the choice of tube audiop as there is no much bass to such kind of amp - so much in mid-high typically.

I have some of my friends trashed their expensive cable after discovering that ordinary cables sound better - and they know it has something to do with capacitance issues in the cable. Some old/surplus SS amp are also vulnerable to high cap cable.

Bottomline, dont assume a good cable somewhere is good for you too. Expensive cable is not always the best for your system. Cheap cable is not always bad. If you will use your ears to listen to your system  ::), than hearing those hypes or emotional declaration of those using expensive :-\, exotic ???, ripped-off  :P or personally- hand-weaved cable 8), then you will be protected from unnecessary expenses and wasted time.

Although if you have the identical source up to the speakers, and he has made discoveries - then go to his place and have a listen. Baka naman 70 years old na yon at talagang ang mahina e sensitivity of his ears na. Di kaya bangag na! pero pag ok naman sya, at ok nga ang sound niya sa wharf 9 series  ;D, it lessens your discovery time.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 14, 2005 at 05:55 PM
Even THX-certified theater systems using equipment 10X more expensive than the most expensive home systems use ordinary cables.  And to think THX wants home entertainment systems to sound like what you hear in THX theaters.  ;D

The Skywalker THX Studio at Lucasfilm uses expensive MIT Oracle cabling.  However, I agree that for cinema sound, both theater and home, ultra-expensive cabling may not make much difference, as opposed to straight stereo home listening, where nuances and inner detail is much important.

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When you start to consider that some of the most expensive speakers just use ordinary 16AWG or 14AWG wires internally to connect crossovers to drivers and are soldered to speaker terminals, and that some of the finest tube and SS amps use plain 10AWG wires to connect the circuit board to the speaker terminals, I begin to wonder what point there is to using expensive cables betweeen the speaker and the amp.  Even more so when you consider that those solid wires used for speaker voice coils are just plain 18AWG wires or less.  They're not even silver!! ;D

Internal cabling does not need to be very complicated.  Why? Compare the lengths of cable run inside the speakers, or amplifiers, to that in a normal amp-to-speaker connection.  The much shorter internal cabling does not tend to degrade the signal, but the longer external connections require a more careful consideration so that signal integrity is kept through the whole length.  But take note... real high-end speakers' internal cabling are typically NOT your ordinary cables, I'd bet on it.

Back to the Diamond 9 topic, my Diamond 9SR, an entry-level speaker, still shows the difference between my van den Hul cabling and an ordinary cable, especially in the clarity and refinement of the treble.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Feb 14, 2005 at 06:41 PM
anyone auditioned the 9.6?  ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Feb 14, 2005 at 06:52 PM
anyone auditioned the 9.6?  ???

Oh! Pre! tagal mong nawala. Busy ba?  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Feb 14, 2005 at 08:56 PM
kimpao: ngayon lang nabakante hehe ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Feb 15, 2005 at 09:46 AM

Internal cabling does not need to be very complicated.  Why? Compare the lengths of cable run inside the speakers, or amplifiers, to that in a normal amp-to-speaker connection.  The much shorter internal cabling does not tend to degrade the signal, but the longer external connections require a more careful consideration so that signal integrity is kept through the whole length.  But take note... real high-end speakers' internal cabling are typically NOT your ordinary cables, I'd bet on it.


The chain is only as good as the weakest link.  Whether it is 1 inch or 10 meters.

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Back to the Diamond 9 topic, my Diamond 9SR, an entry-level speaker, still shows the difference between my van den Hul cabling and an ordinary cable, especially in the clarity and refinement of the treble.


Good for you.  Did you do any bias-controlled DBT? 

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: synchro on Feb 15, 2005 at 10:22 AM
Synchro,

Would you be able to enumerate a few cables that are revealing and transparent just so that the newbies (myself included) would have an idea. Thanks!

I have once owned an used the ff speaker cables. I find most of them transparent but in varying stages din. it really will depend ultimately on your ears and your assoiated gears bro.

1. Van Den Hul - model: The Clearwater
2. MIT
3. Audience
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Feb 15, 2005 at 12:20 PM
anyone auditioned the 9.6?  ???

Musta na sir.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Feb 15, 2005 at 12:30 PM
hmm...smells like another debate about branded and generic cables...hope we go back to the topic...anyway i'll be auditioning the 9.6 today ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: synchro on Feb 15, 2005 at 01:51 PM
I've seen some set-ups on the net using expensive Wilson Audio and Nautilus speakers mated to Bryston and Thiele amps using mere $1.50/foot 10 gauge speaker cables. 


avphile

just because some bloke out there slapped on a pair of zip cord speaker wires between a high end amp and a high end speaker and put the article up on the net doesnt mean that its automatically sounds good dude. reading about it is totally different from hearing it.

I for one believe in the improvement that good quality cables can take your system to the next level.  for the price that I paid for my set of cables, it really improved my system most specifically in the mid band.  prior to my cable upgrade i was contemplating on upgrading my pre amp but an upgrade on cables lang pala can do the job so I ended up spending less.

now for the Wharfedale users here...it wont hurt if you try to hear it for yourself. beg, borrow or steal before you buy.  try it on your set up and make sure that the cables are already burned in since most cables benefit from it.  most entry level cable models from XLO, Audience etc wont break the bank (1K to 2K investment)...it just might give your system that little "extra" that you have been looking for.  good luck bros  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 15, 2005 at 02:23 PM
mga friends,

let's further discuss cables in the proper thread :) let's post personal experiences, testimonials, mathematical proofs and what have you.

so, how was the 9.6? :)

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Feb 15, 2005 at 05:40 PM

... burned in ...

the cable in the 9.6?  ???

I think bumblebee is correct - the cable topic should be settled on a different thread. my eyebrows up!  :-\  Replace a burned in cable with a working one!  ;D

What's the thread?  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: synchro on Feb 15, 2005 at 06:52 PM
the cable in the 9.6?  ???

I think bumblebee is correct - the cable topic should be settled on a different thread. my eyebrows up!  :-\  Replace a burned in cable with a working one!  ;D

What's the thread?  >:D

oops..i should have said broken in as in break in. sorry bout that.

anyways back to topic tayo. tama na yang cable talk. di talaga matatapos yan.
finally after a long wait I heard and auditioned the 9.6 already. it sounds stupendous (for the price) when mated to a hefty power amp but you do need to have the room though since its kinda boomy when shoehorned in a small space.  sa HT panalo ito considering that you get so much for so little.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Feb 15, 2005 at 07:10 PM
oops..i should have said broken in as in break in. sorry bout that.

anyways back to topic tayo. tama na yang cable talk. di talaga matatapos yan.
finally after a long wait I heard and auditioned the 9.6 already. it sounds stupendous (for the price) when mated to a hefty power amp but you do need to have the room though since its kinda boomy when shoehorned in a small space.  sa HT panalo ito considering that you get so much for so little.

same here, these speakers need lots of room and power, so instead of the 9.6 i "settled" with a diamond 9.1 and sw150 combo for my smallish room. I also auditioned the sw250 but for some odd reason...for a sealed sub it sounded boomy ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 15, 2005 at 07:24 PM
ive just biwired my 9.1s. 12 ga audio pro for LF and HF. nananakit daliri ko sa pagpilit na pagsamahin yung 2 matabang cable :(

i don't know whether the sound quality improved or not :( but that is not to say that it didn't improve. maybe it did. guess i just don't have golden ears yet. good for me :)

but the feeling is good :) i actually appreciate my little system more now :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iceman90a on Feb 15, 2005 at 10:20 PM
sometimes when its an improvement - you dont get to hear it immediately, but it "feels right" over an extended period. when you get used to the sound, try switching back to un-biwired mode and see if the sound "degrades" - we are usually more sensitive to deterioration of sound quality :)

my dad's analogy:

drink a glass of black label, then blue label - you wont really notice the change

drink a glass of blue label first - then drink black - you know there's a difference ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on Feb 15, 2005 at 10:38 PM
same here, these speakers need lots of room and power, so instead of the 9.6 i "settled" with a diamond 9.1 and sw150 combo for my smallish room. I also auditioned the sw250 but for some odd reason...for a sealed sub it sounded boomy ???

sir john...congrats on your new purchase!  btw i thought the sw250 is ported like the sw150? 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on Feb 15, 2005 at 10:42 PM
ive just biwired my 9.1s. 12 ga audio pro for LF and HF. nananakit daliri ko sa pagpilit na pagsamahin yung 2 matabang cable :(

i don't know whether the sound quality improved or not :( but that is not to say that it didn't improve. maybe it did. guess i just don't have golden ears yet. good for me :)

but the feeling is good :) i actually appreciate my little system more now :)

sir bumblebee...don't know why but my diamond 9.1 didn't like the audio pro cable at all...manipis tumunog.  then again i was using 14ga.  try copper wires on the LF and it might make a lot of difference.  for me it was night and day.  anyway...sorry to bring up the cable thingy again.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ca89056 on Feb 16, 2005 at 11:11 AM
Hi everyone,

Can anyone recommend inexpensive but decent stands for a pair of 9.1s?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Feb 16, 2005 at 11:57 AM
try perfect view stand
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Feb 16, 2005 at 12:01 PM
bumblebee,

wala bang nagbago sa tunog ng 9.1 mo when you bi-wired it?  ??? ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 16, 2005 at 12:55 PM
at first parang wala namang improvement. maybe i was expecting a night and day difference. but iceman's right. it really feels right :) i tried listening when it was quiet and there are times when i feel that it did improve.

objective assessment vs power of suggestion. i don't know w/c one im hearing. my system or my brain :(

but right now, i think im enjoying my system more. and that should be the bottom line :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 16, 2005 at 01:22 PM
I also auditioned the sw250 but for some odd reason...for a sealed sub it sounded boomy ???

Even a sealed sub can sound boomy in a small room.  Maybe it's because of the floor reinforcement on the downfiring design.  Because it is a sealed design, with a still-compact cabinet, the SW250 benefits not only from the beefier amp (it's less efficient) but also from some floor reinforcement.

Btw, which store has the SW250 already?  How much?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: edboy7 on Feb 16, 2005 at 07:17 PM
saw a pair of  9.6 (wood finish :)) @ sights and sounds parksquare for 17.5T ANG LAKI PALA NUN ;D with 8 inch woofers, anyone heard it already?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Feb 16, 2005 at 10:25 PM
Even a sealed sub can sound boomy in a small room.  Maybe it's because of the floor reinforcement on the downfiring design.  Because it is a sealed design, with a still-compact cabinet, the SW250 benefits not only from the beefier amp (it's less efficient) but also from some floor reinforcement.

Btw, which store has the SW250 already?  How much?

spectra has it, as for the booming i guess your right, if the flooring was heavily carpeted
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 18, 2005 at 02:48 PM
saw a pair of  9.6 (wood finish :)) @ sights and sounds parksquare for 17.5T ANG LAKI PALA NUN ;D with 8 inch woofers, anyone heard it already?

Sana may mag-post ng review nila dito of the Diamond 9.6.  I still don't have the time to seriously audition these speakers, but I am very interested to know about how they sound.  I suspect the listening areas in Park Square will not do any justice to the speakers, especially the bass and imaging, but at least it gives a clue.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hans_adriane on Feb 21, 2005 at 07:59 PM
spectra has it, as for the booming i guess your right, if the flooring was heavily carpeted

Sir musta auditioning mo ng 9.6??
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: don jose on Feb 22, 2005 at 07:09 PM
okay lang ba i pair ang 9.1 sa pioneer avr? 6 ohm kasi 9.1 di ba, e 8-16ohm ang nakalagay sa avr e? o diamond 8.3(8 ohm) na lang? w/c is better for HT/Audio?

how much nga pala 9.1?
may available pa bang 8.3? how much din?

thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Feb 22, 2005 at 07:17 PM
If you're going to use a subwoofer, just set the 9.1 speakers to SMALL on the AVR so the impedance mistmatch is minimized. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 22, 2005 at 09:44 PM
okay lang ba i pair ang 9.1 sa pioneer avr? 6 ohm kasi 9.1 di ba, e 8-16ohm ang nakalagay sa avr e? o diamond 8.3(8 ohm) na lang? w/c is better for HT/Audio?

how much nga pala 9.1?
may available pa bang 8.3? how much din?

thanks.


the 9.1 costs 5.5k/pair. i saw an 8.3 in sound dimension, park square 1 for less than 7k/pair. both are 6 ohmers.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gbtormes16 on Feb 24, 2005 at 02:02 PM
Got the 9.3( Sound Room -SM Cebu) two weeks ago to replace my old Fidek speakers for fronts. After breaking in for more than 200 hrs,  it sounds pretty fine ( for my ears ) & I'm very satisfied . With the price below 10k , what can you ask for ?  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 24, 2005 at 02:05 PM
gbtormes16, you're the first i know to have those. it's good to know you're enjoying them. btw, what amp are you using?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gbtormes16 on Feb 24, 2005 at 02:08 PM
gbtormes16, you're the first i know to have those. it's good to know you're enjoying them. btw, what amp are you using?

I'm using the Yamaha RXV-440, thanks..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 24, 2005 at 03:01 PM
Just heard the 9.6 last weekend.  The most noticeable difference from the 9.5 I heard (and liked) several weeks ago is the midrange.  The dome midrange is not there for nothing.  It gave the 9.6 a more effortless, transparent mid that seemed "faster" than the 9.5's.  Its midrange is nowhere close to an electrostatic (which some say it is), but it's THE best I heard under 20K.  Vocals sounded superb, and the initial attack of percussion instruments like the snare drum was rendered really well, without rounding or softening of lesser designs.

The highs also sounded a bit cleaner when played loud as compared to the 9.5.  The bass is much more extended than the 9.5's, yet sounded more controlled.  I feel there was quite a bit of warmth of the mid- to upper bass but it didn't seem as if it would boom easily in more difficult rooms.  The bass was particularly agile for a ported design.

The most surprising thing is that, for a four-driver, 3.5-way design, the driver integration is almost seemless.  Note that I said "almost"... I never heard a big speaker (except planars) that sounded entirely "one piece".
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Garp on Feb 24, 2005 at 03:37 PM
Just heard the 9.1. Surprise! Surprise! these speakers image very well.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimosabe on Feb 24, 2005 at 08:15 PM
Just heard the 9.6 last weekend.  The most noticeable difference from the 9.5 I heard (and liked) several weeks ago is the midrange.  The dome midrange is not there for nothing.  It gave the 9.6 a more effortless, transparent mid that seemed "faster" than the 9.5's.  Its midrange is nowhere close to an electrostatic (which some say it is), but it's THE best I heard under 20K.  Vocals sounded superb, and the initial attack of percussion instruments like the snare drum was rendered really well, without rounding or softening of lesser designs.

The highs also sounded a bit cleaner when played loud as compared to the 9.5.  The bass is much more extended than the 9.5's, yet sounded more controlled.  I feel there was quite a bit of warmth of the mid- to upper bass but it didn't seem as if it would boom easily in more difficult rooms.  The bass was particularly agile for a ported design.

The most surprising thing is that, for a four-driver, 3.5-way design, the driver integration is almost seemless.  Note that I said "almost"... I never heard a big speaker (except planars) that sounded entirely "one piece".

Nice review sir arnel... napa isip mo ako dun ha  ::) ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 24, 2005 at 08:22 PM
Nice review sir arnel... napa isip mo ako dun ha  ::) ;D

about the 9.6 or the planars? :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hans_adriane on Feb 24, 2005 at 09:52 PM
Nice review sir arnel... napa isip mo ako dun ha  ::) ;D

Kimosabe,

Masyado expensive yun isa better 9 series lang. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 24, 2005 at 09:56 PM
share ko lang...

while listening to some music, my wife stopped whatever she was doing to ask me if the speakers were broken in already. sounds very good according to her. (i don't know if she said that just to please me or to keep me from upgrading them because of the extra cost :-[ ) this is the first time ive heard her praise my gears w/o me asking her :)

and before her comment, i was really hearing some improvement :) im glad i didn't go wrong w/ the diamonds :) to think that i got this mainly because of the reviews :-[ how lucky can i get :)


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on Feb 24, 2005 at 10:19 PM
share ko lang...

while listening to some music, my wife stopped whatever she was doing to ask me if the speakers were broken in already. sounds very good according to her. (i don't know if she said that just to please me or to keep me from upgrading them because of the extra cost :-[ ) this is the first time ive heard her praise my gears w/o me asking her :)

and before her comment, i was really hearing some improvement :) im glad i didn't go wrong w/ the diamonds :) to think that i got this mainly because of the reviews :-[ how lucky can i get :)




haha must be reason no. 2. j/k  seriously, i also find them really good too for the price.  medyo mahirap lang i-drive but once you get over that, the rest is smooth playing. :) 

btw is anyone using the 9s with a rotel setup?  i tried it with the ra-02 and it didn't sound good.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 24, 2005 at 10:31 PM
haha must be reason no. 2. j/k  seriously, i also find them really good too for the price.  medyo mahirap lang i-drive but once you get over that, the rest is smooth playing. :) 

btw is anyone using the 9s with a rotel setup?  i tried it with the ra-02 and it didn't sound good.

nice one there :) my nad bee is more than enough for me. i've yet to go beyond 9 o'clock :) anyway, i remember one member here uses an 8.1 w/ a rotel. i forgot his name though.

--------------------------

si LETOR pala :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on Feb 25, 2005 at 12:31 PM
nice one there :) my nad bee is more than enough for me. i've yet to go beyond 9 o'clock :) anyway, i remember one member here uses an 8.1 w/ a rotel. i forgot his name though.

--------------------------

si LETOR pala :)

that's pretty good.  i might get another set pag nagsawa ako sa mission.(sold the 9.1s)  when we tried the 9.1 with the rotel, it sounded shrill and thin.  dunno why...was he satisfied with his setup?  8.1 is another line though.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: edboy7 on Feb 25, 2005 at 10:51 PM
Just heard the 9.6 last weekend.  The most noticeable difference from the 9.5 I heard (and liked) several weeks ago is the midrange.  The dome midrange is not there for nothing.  It gave the 9.6 a more effortless, transparent mid that seemed "faster" than the 9.5's.  Its midrange is nowhere close to an electrostatic (which some say it is), but it's THE best I heard under 20K.  Vocals sounded superb, and the initial attack of percussion instruments like the snare drum was rendered really well, without rounding or softening of lesser designs.

The highs also sounded a bit cleaner when played loud as compared to the 9.5.  The bass is much more extended than the 9.5's, yet sounded more controlled.  I feel there was quite a bit of warmth of the mid- to upper bass but it didn't seem as if it would boom easily in more difficult rooms.  The bass was particularly agile for a ported design.

The most surprising thing is that, for a four-driver, 3.5-way design, the driver integration is almost seemless.  Note that I said "almost"... I never heard a big speaker (except planars) that sounded entirely "one piece".
coooll :)....with wat amp/reciever did u hear it? thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 28, 2005 at 08:27 AM
that's pretty good.  i might get another set pag nagsawa ako sa mission.(sold the 9.1s)  when we tried the 9.1 with the rotel, it sounded shrill and thin.  dunno why...was he satisfied with his setup?  8.1 is another line though.

sir taggart, try this link.

http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=27201.msg412297#msg412297
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Feb 28, 2005 at 10:54 AM
that's pretty good.  i might get another set pag nagsawa ako sa mission.(sold the 9.1s)  when we tried the 9.1 with the rotel, it sounded shrill and thin.  dunno why...was he satisfied with his setup?  8.1 is another line though.

By "shrill and thin" do you mean bright and not much bass?  I think I'm just lucky coz I've never heard the 9.1 sound like that... but please note that I think that a subwoofer is a must for the tiny 9.1... without the reinforcement, it is indeed thin.  :)

Are the smaller Rotels really that bright?  I heard the bigger ones (separates) and they sounded full... in fact, a bit reticent in the highs even with B&W Nautilus-series speakers.  But I wouldn't partner those P100K+ electronics with the Diamonds if practicality is a consideration.  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 28, 2005 at 11:20 AM
issue 13 of avguide is available for download. there's a review of the diamond 9.6 surround setup. and other gears too :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on Feb 28, 2005 at 12:23 PM
sir taggart, try this link.

http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=27201.msg412297#msg412297

thanks bumblebee!  yeah they seem to like it.  maybe it's bec. i biwired mine.  OT na but i think biwiring emphasizes the highs a lot more than single wired so when you have a balanced setup with single wire, biwiring might make it bright/sibilant.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: taggart on Feb 28, 2005 at 12:29 PM
By "shrill and thin" do you mean bright and not much bass?  I think I'm just lucky coz I've never heard the 9.1 sound like that... but please note that I think that a subwoofer is a must for the tiny 9.1... without the reinforcement, it is indeed thin.  :)

Are the smaller Rotels really that bright?  I heard the bigger ones (separates) and they sounded full... in fact, a bit reticent in the highs even with B&W Nautilus-series speakers.  But I wouldn't partner those P100K+ electronics with the Diamonds if practicality is a consideration.  :D


yes it was really a pain to my ears(really bright) and lost a lot of midrange.  the plus side is that the details came out but that's about it.  it's either the source(c542), biwiring or the amp itself coz i swapped back the pioneer and the funny thing is it's just right.  too bad i couldn't experiment anymore with the speakers sold.  haha i agree on the P100k partnership. 
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: backdraft on Feb 28, 2005 at 01:10 PM
issue 13 of avguide is available for download. there's a review of the diamond 9.6 surround setup. and other gears too :)

sir pa post naman ng link  ;D

thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 28, 2005 at 01:13 PM
sir pa post naman ng link  ;D

thanks

http://www.avguide.com/AVG_monthly/issue13_hispeed.pdf
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: doorknob2k1 on Feb 28, 2005 at 04:11 PM
newbie here... be kind to me.   :)

i just came across this forum while googling for the 9.x series. i bought a marantz sr4400 a few weeks back.(electonics depot galleria)... and was looking at pairing it with the 9.4.  has anybody tried this combination? the sr4400 has been sitting on its box for weeks now waiting for a set of speakers to drive. i'm kinda tight on the budget... 10k - 12k lang kaya ko i-spend for now.

my options are:
1.  yamaha nsp-236... for instant gratification.  ::)
2.  or get a pair of 9.4 and wait eternally for the next bonuses to complete a 6.1 setup  :-\

hoping to hear from you guys. thanks!

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 28, 2005 at 04:15 PM
newbie here... be kind to me.   :)

i just came across this forum while googling for the 9.x series. i bought a marantz sr4400 a few weeks back.(electonics depot galleria)... and was looking at pairing it with the 9.4.  has anybody tried this combination? the sr4400 has been sitting on its box for weeks now waiting for a set of speakers to drive. i'm kinda tight on the budget... 10k - 12k lang kaya ko i-spend for now.

my options are:
1.  yamaha nsp-236... for instant gratification.  ::)
2.  or get a pair of 9.4 and wait eternally for the next bonuses to complete a 6.1 setup  :-\

hoping to hear from you guys. thanks!



electronics depot carries some diamonds too. why not go there and audition the 9.4s? ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: doorknob2k1 on Feb 28, 2005 at 04:44 PM
hi there bumblebee! i did ask "sonny" to connect a pair of 8.3s and then the 9.4s to the marantz before packing it in the box. i like the 9.4 over the 8.3... crispier highs. but that's just in the shop... and only for a few tracks... (brought my dianna krall dvd with me). i wonder how it would sound in a typical living room/bedroom setting. ::)

would i be wasting my money on the yamaha nsp-236? (P10,500 @ listening room)  :-\
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: edboy7 on Feb 28, 2005 at 04:56 PM
hello doorknob, same  dilemma :-\ im also having a hard time choosing between the  9.6 and  mordaunt 914's, i also have a marantz AVR :)...heard the 914's @ 5th ave....seems perfect to me! :) but when the 9.6 came out na...nabulabog ako ??? but still have to hear them with my marantz  ::)...and cybermms is giving me a very good deal on it ;D free delivery pa(cavite area only sori po meron pang plugging)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 28, 2005 at 06:11 PM
hi there bumblebee! i did ask "sonny" to connect a pair of 8.3s and then the 9.4s to the marantz before packing it in the box. i like the 9.4 over the 8.3... crispier highs. but that's just in the shop... and only for a few tracks... (brought my dianna krall dvd with me). i wonder how it would sound in a typical living room/bedroom setting. ::)

would i be wasting my money on the yamaha nsp-236? (P10,500 @ listening room)  :-\

i don't know about the yamaha. but i do know that you wouldn't be wasting moolah on the 9.4 ;) mas madaling ibenta yan if ever magsawa ka ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hans_adriane on Mar 01, 2005 at 03:23 AM
hello doorknob, same  dilemma :-\ im also having a hard time choosing between the  9.6 and  mordaunt 914's, i also have a marantz AVR :)...heard the 914's @ 5th ave....seems perfect to me! :) but when the 9.6 came out na...nabulabog ako ??? but still have to hear them with my marantz  ::)...and cybermms is giving me a very good deal on it ;D free delivery pa(cavite area only sori po meron pang plugging)

Bro just want to remind you Marantz and Wharf are both on the warm side kaya better audition with your favorite cd to make sure. :)

Happy auditioning
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: backdraft on Mar 01, 2005 at 05:10 AM
http://www.avguide.com/AVG_monthly/issue13_hispeed.pdf

salamas sir... ayy salamat pala  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Mar 01, 2005 at 03:18 PM
Hey guys, how much is the SW250 subwoofer locally?  thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Mar 01, 2005 at 03:24 PM
SW250 ~20k
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Mar 02, 2005 at 11:10 AM
Seems that the AVGuide review is too good to be true... not to say that Diamond 9 series is no good, in fact it is the best value speakers I know to date.  But, if you remember in the first review, they mentioned that the sound comes close to an electrostatic in terms of speed.  Yes, I agree that the midrange dome is very capable of delivering transients that makes a snare's initial attack really palpable, but it is nowhere close to an electrostatic's capability to "snap".  And no one expects it to be the case, given the physics involved and the cost difference.  :)

And to say that it is the best surround system under $4K they've heard, can be tricky.  I assume the reviewer was being honest and he hasn't heard a Magnepan surround system + REL subwoofer, which goes under $3K. And since he's talking about P150,000+, that amount of money can buy much better speakers.  Buti na lang, much cheaper dito ang Wharfedale, but that's out of the question. :)

Is AVGuide really credible? It seems that they always rave about the equipment that they review.  So, for those who heard the Diamond 9.6 and the rest of the series, do you guys agree with the AVGuide review?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: doorknob2k1 on Mar 02, 2005 at 11:29 AM
Bro just want to remind you Marantz and Wharf are both on the warm side kaya better audition with your favorite cd to make sure. :)

Happy auditioning

hi! when you say "warm"... meaning?... parang muffled ang highs? ???  pardon my ignorance.  :)   
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 02, 2005 at 11:39 AM
Seems that the AVGuide review is too good to be true... not to say that Diamond 9 series is no good, in fact it is the best value speakers I know to date.  But, if you remember in the first review, they mentioned that the sound comes close to an electrostatic in terms of speed.  Yes, I agree that the midrange dome is very capable of delivering transients that makes a snare's initial attack really palpable, but it is nowhere close to an electrostatic's capability to "snap".  And no one expects it to be the case, given the physics involved and the cost difference.  :)

And to say that it is the best surround system under $4K they've heard, can be tricky.  I assume the reviewer was being honest and he hasn't heard a Magnepan surround system + REL subwoofer, which goes under $3K. And since he's talking about P150,000+, that amount of money can buy much better speakers.  Buti na lang, much cheaper dito ang Wharfedale, but that's out of the question. :)

Is AVGuide really credible? It seems that they always rave about the equipment that they review.  So, for those who heard the Diamond 9.6 and the rest of the series, do you guys agree with the AVGuide review?


the review was very subjective. the reviewer liked what he heard and that's just about it. as for agreeing w/ the review, i guess most newbies will. i have the diamond 9.1s because of the what hifi? rave. and i found them good enough for me, being a newbie. i may look for better speakers if ever (and hopefully) my listening tastes mature.

also, avguide is a US publication, isn't it? the reviewer may have compared the diamonds w/ the likes of jbl, polk, bose, klipsch, etc. in the same price range.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 02, 2005 at 11:44 AM
hi! when you say "warm"... meaning?... parang muffled ang highs? ???  pardon my ignorance.  :)   

warm. mellow. malambing ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: doorknob2k1 on Mar 02, 2005 at 01:19 PM
warm. mellow. malambing ;)

as opposed to?... bright... meaning?...

damn! i'm such a newbie! meron bang glossary dito sa pinoydvd?   ;)

thanks for your kind responses, btw.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 02, 2005 at 01:23 PM
as opposed to?... bright... meaning?...

d**n! i'm such a newbie! meron bang glossary dito sa pinoydvd?   ;)

thanks for your kind responses, btw.  :)

try this link :)

http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=33446.0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Mar 02, 2005 at 01:42 PM
i may look for better speakers if ever (and hopefully) my listening tastes mature.
That's the bad (or good, depending on perspective) thing about this hobby... as time passes by, you learn to spot more differences in sound, which increases your expectations on gear.  Your higher expectations are usually then only met by more expensive gear... and the vicious cycle goes on and on... :)

Btw, I also admit to raving about the Diamond 9's in this thread.  But hey I am not a professional reviewer, so I take it that nobody would just take my word for it and buy the stuff.  On the other hand, some newbies buy stuff based on professional reviews... I'm not saying you do, but there are some who do.  I find it difficult to spot which reviews tell the truth and which ones are "infomercials" in disguise... but I usually trust reviews that tell the bad side of things, admitting that no speaker is perfect, even those $100K+ flagships are flawed in some way or the other.  A review that tells these flaws are more interesting for me... at least I know if these flaws would be acceptable to me.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: doorknob2k1 on Mar 02, 2005 at 01:44 PM
try this link :)

http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=33446.0

whoa! didn't know there were that too many terms used in describing a speaker's sound.  :o  

anyway, i own a Sony FH-414 (circa 1989) ... are u familiar with these miniHiFi's? as a point of comparison... what term best describes the sound of its speakers?

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 02, 2005 at 02:04 PM

...
On the other hand, some newbies buy stuff based on professional reviews... I'm not saying you do, but there are some who do.
...


i did just that ;) i bought my gears w/o auditioning ;D i didn't know what i was looking for at that time. then i discovered i prefer the warm, the mellow, the lush, the sweet. and my gears provided me w/ those ;D


Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: obey on Mar 02, 2005 at 02:38 PM
whoa! didn't know there were that too many terms used in describing a speaker's sound.  :o  

anyway, i own a Sony FH-414 (circa 1989) ... are u familiar with these miniHiFi's? as a point of comparison... what term best describes the sound of its speakers?



I used to own a Sony FH-515 naman during my highschool days.  Eto yung may SAT (Super Acoustic Turbo) switch di ba?  Di ko na nagamit yung amp section nung sa akin dahil matagal nang sira.  Pero nung ayos pa ito, naalala ko na mas nasa warm side and bilog ang bass reproduction ng component na ito.  Mas maganda pa nga ang tunog niya sa present minicomponent ng family ko dito sa bahay eh (Pioneer).  Eventually, ginamit ko as surrounds yung speakers nung sony.  After a year, pinalitan ko rin siya ng wharf 8.1.   
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: doorknob2k1 on Mar 02, 2005 at 02:57 PM
I used to own a Sony FH-515 naman during my highschool days.  Eto yung may SAT (Super Acoustic Turbo) switch di ba?  Di ko na nagamit yung amp section nung sa akin dahil matagal nang sira.  Pero nung ayos pa ito, naalala ko na mas nasa warm side and bilog ang bass reproduction ng component na ito.  Mas maganda pa nga ang tunog niya sa present minicomponent ng family ko dito sa bahay eh (Pioneer).  Eventually, ginamit ko as surrounds yung speakers nung sony.  After a year, pinalitan ko rin siya ng wharf 8.1.   

yep! my 414 has a SAT button also. pero 2 way lang yung speakers... the amp section also is lost somwhere in our bodega. ;D i use the speakers now with a Pioneer A-207 where i currently connect my Pioneer DV-525. (ung Marantz SR4400 ko nasa box pa din  ???). waiting for a diamond9.  ;D

now i have another question... why does the sony speakers sound better (in my opinion) when driven by the Pioneer A-207 (loudness:ON / treble:FULL + / bass:0) versus the Marantz SR4400 in stereo mode? (bass: +6db / treble: +6db)?... or is it just a matter of listening taste?  ???

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: obey on Mar 02, 2005 at 06:42 PM
Ano ba yung Pioneer A-207? Integrated Amp ba yon?  Kung oo, baka kaya mas maganda ang tunog kesa sa marantz mo na a/v receiver.  Based sa post mo mukhang mas may body ang tunog ng Pioneer dahil nasa zero lang ang setting mo sa bass.  Anyway,  di ba sumasakit ang tenga mo dahil naka full ang treble setting mo? :D   Sabagay kanya kanyang taste nga yan sa music.  Kung rock ang trip mo, malamang mas gusto mo talaga na taasan ng konti ang treble settings mo.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: doorknob2k1 on Mar 03, 2005 at 10:38 AM
yup! its an integrated amp. an older version of the A-209. (http://www.pioneer.com.sg/storefront/brochure/04-05General_PMA_Pg12-19.pdf) as for the treble setting... okay lang naman for my taste. di naman sya yung tipong "dumudura ang tunog"  ;D  i like to hear the hi-hats and crashes lalo na sa live recordings.  ;)

anyway, thanks for your replys. i hope di magalit ang moderators... medyo off-topic na to e.  ;D

sana magkapera na ako para makabili na ako ng diamond.  ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bebot santos on Mar 03, 2005 at 12:27 PM
Disclaimer, hehehe just post on this thread before and stated that although 9.2 has a good bass, it lacks for a high's when auditioned it at Sound DImension, but luckily i just bought one, paired it with Pionner D511s and a Panasonic dvd player, I played Enya Cd, and it sound great,!!! Siguro namimili lng ng mga rcvr hehehe, just my experience!!!! Cheers sa mga Wharfs!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Mar 03, 2005 at 12:53 PM
Disclaimer, hehehe just post on this thread before and stated that although 9.2 has a good bass, it lacks for a high's when auditioned it at Sound DImension, but luckily i just bought one, paired it with Pionner D511s and a Panasonic dvd player, I played Enya Cd, and it sound great,!!! Siguro namimili lng ng mga rcvr hehehe, just my experience!!!! Cheers sa mga Wharfs!!!!!!!

You heard what I have heard - Pioneer can make the wharf sounds great. We enjoyed the wharf with the Pio 509.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Mar 06, 2005 at 11:53 PM
review for diamond 9 series: http://www.avguide.com/AVG_monthly/issue13_part2.pdf
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 07, 2005 at 02:21 PM
mga sir, i'm currently using a yamaha rx-v650 to drive diamond 9.4 fronts and wh-3 center/surrounds. i plan to add another pair of diamonds as side surrounds then relegate the wh-3 surrounds to the rear.

which diamond 9 speaker should i use as side surrounds in a 15 X 15 ft room with low ceiling?

a.) 9.0
b.) 9.1
c.) 9.sr

i'm thinking perhaps the 9.1 should do the job. husto na kaya yung 9.0? or yung 9.sr (availble na ba to dito?) thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: doorknob2k1 on Mar 07, 2005 at 04:49 PM
d00dZ! check out spectra in park square 1... (recommended ng pdvd members!)... they have the diamond 9 series there... i was there this morning... listened to the 9.2 & 9.4... mabait ung nag assist sa akin dun... leslie ata ung name. hoping to bring home a diamond soon!  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Mar 07, 2005 at 07:34 PM
mga sir, i'm currently using a yamaha rx-v650 to drive diamond 9.4 fronts and wh-3 center/surrounds. i plan to add another pair of diamonds as side surrounds then relegate the wh-3 surrounds to the rear.

which diamond 9 speaker should i use as side surrounds in a 15 X 15 ft room with low ceiling?

a.) 9.0
b.) 9.1
c.) 9.sr

i'm thinking perhaps the 9.1 should do the job. husto na kaya yung 9.0? or yung 9.sr (availble na ba to dito?) thanks.

First of all, may I suggest that you replace your center first? (Did I understand it correctly, you are also using WH-3 for center?)  The 9CM is perfect for P6000+ but the 9CS is fine and is also much cheaper at P4500.

About your side surrounds, if you have vacant walls on both sides, I'd suggest the 9SR which is wall-mountable.  It is available locally, and got mine for less than P4000.  It is best when it is raised a bit from your ear level, just like in the cinema... something you can't do very easily with the standmounted options (9.0 or 9.1).  And don't worry, for surround duty, the 9SR can play really loud!!!

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 08, 2005 at 10:59 AM
d00dZ! check out spectra in park square 1... (recommended ng pdvd members!)... they have the diamond 9 series there... i was there this morning... listened to the 9.2 & 9.4... mabait ung nag assist sa akin dun... wesley ata ung name. hoping to bring home a diamond soon!  :)

w/c one? the 9.2 or 9.4? :)

btw, gurus, ask ko lang...

i may get a pair of speaker stands soon. costs 3800 at the most. do you think it would be better to get a 9.4 instead (implies letting go of the 9.1)? the wife likes the beech pair ;D

many thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 08, 2005 at 11:10 AM
d00dZ! check out spectra in park square 1... (recommended ng pdvd members!)... they have the diamond 9 series there... i was there this morning... listened to the 9.2 & 9.4... mabait ung nag assist sa akin dun... wesley ata ung name. hoping to bring home a diamond soon!  :)

sir doorknob2k1, that's where i actually bought my other wharfedales. your right, mabait nga sila dun. kinaka-chums ko naman dun si jose. go with your plans to bring home a diamond, best bang for the buck speakers talaga!

First of all, may I suggest that you replace your center first? (Did I understand it correctly, you are also using WH-3 for center?) The 9CM is perfect for P6000+ but the 9CS is fine and is also much cheaper at P4500.

About your side surrounds, if you have vacant walls on both sides, I'd suggest the 9SR which is wall-mountable. It is available locally, and got mine for less than P4000. It is best when it is raised a bit from your ear level, just like in the cinema... something you can't do very easily with the standmounted options (9.0 or 9.1). And don't worry, for surround duty, the 9SR can play really loud!!!



sir Arnel Enero, you're right, i'm currently using the wh-3 center for my front center. highly not recommended  :P original plan ko kasi gawin siya rear surround ultimately in a 6.1 system, but since i ended up buying a 7.1 receiver, i may have to dispose of it eventually. siguro i'll be getting the 9.cm. worth it ba yung P1.5++k difference over the 9.cs?

my side surrounds are actually for wall mounting, and the 9.sr seems to be the right speakers for that job. kaso lang sabi sa manual 10-60 watts lang power handling nito. di ba to problem with a 95 w/ch receiver?

thanks for the inputs!  O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Mar 08, 2005 at 05:58 PM
siguro i'll be getting the 9.cm. worth it ba yung P1.5++k difference over the 9.cs?
Very much worth it.  Why? Several reasons:
1.  The dedicated dome midrange makes the mids "cleaner".  But you'll probably notice this only when you crank up the volume, in which case the 9CM keeps composure better than the 9CS, especially on explosive movie tracks, or very dense soundtracks.
2.  The bigger drivers and bigger box of the 9CM mean that it can go much louder than the 9CS.
3.  The 9CM has a sealed-box design (no port).  This means easier placement than the ported 9CS, coz of the less tendency to boom on the midbass.

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my side surrounds are actually for wall mounting, and the 9.sr seems to be the right speakers for that job. kaso lang sabi sa manual 10-60 watts lang power handling nito. di ba to problem with a 95 w/ch receiver?
Not a problem!  It is bass that sucks power.  But for surround speakers, you'd normally set the crossover frequency to 80Hz, meaning there's no low bass coming from the 9SR.  Given this, you won't even need 95 watts at the back to cope with the hefty power that your main fronts (which have low bass) would demand.  Siguro the 9SR would "eat" about 50 watts on average LOUD soundtracks, while your fronts may demand the full 95 watts or more.  Mas delikado pa nga kung underpowered yung receiver mo... not enough power is what fries speakers, because of "clipping".
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hans_adriane on Mar 09, 2005 at 02:18 AM
d00dZ! check out spectra in park square 1... (recommended ng pdvd members!)... they have the diamond 9 series there... i was there this morning... listened to the 9.2 & 9.4... mabait ung nag assist sa akin dun... leslie ata ung name. hoping to bring home a diamond soon!  :)

Bro Leslie is the owner's son you can also talk to JIm and jose. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hans_adriane on Mar 09, 2005 at 02:22 AM
w/c one? the 9.2 or 9.4? :)

btw, gurus, ask ko lang...

i may get a pair of speaker stands soon. costs 3800 at the most. do you think it would be better to get a 9.4 instead (implies letting go of the 9.1)? the wife likes the beech pair ;D

many thanks.

Bro san mo gamitin HT o Audio..

kung Audio will go for the 9.2 bookshelf provide good imaging, less boxiness, means better soundstage and depth but syempre you need a stable stand to go with it.
for HT syempre 9.4 naman for handling those movie soundtrack with control ika nga eh all rounder. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 09, 2005 at 02:29 AM
mga sir, i'm currently using a yamaha rx-v650 to drive diamond 9.4 fronts and wh-3 center/surrounds. i plan to add another pair of diamonds as side surrounds then relegate the wh-3 surrounds to the rear.

which diamond 9 speaker should i use as side surrounds in a 15 X 15 ft room with low ceiling?

a.) 9.0
b.) 9.1
c.) 9.sr

i'm thinking perhaps the 9.1 should do the job. husto na kaya yung 9.0? or yung 9.sr (availble na ba to dito?) thanks.

9sr will provide you better result due to its design for surround talaga. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 09, 2005 at 09:04 AM
Bro san mo gamitin HT o Audio..

kung Audio will go for the 9.2 bookshelf provide good imaging, less boxiness, means better soundstage and depth but syempre you need a stable stand to go with it.
for HT syempre 9.4 naman for handling those movie soundtrack with control ika nga eh all rounder. ;D

thanks, sir hans, for the advice :) im into audio, my wife's into interior design :-\ but im glad that she's starting to appreciate this hobby of mine ;D kinukulit na nga ako e. kelan ko raw papalitan yung 9.1s >:D nakapatong lang kc sa tv rack. naaalog yung mga picture frames nya ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 09, 2005 at 09:17 AM
Very much worth it.  Why? Several reasons:
1.  The dedicated dome midrange makes the mids "cleaner".  But you'll probably notice this only when you crank up the volume, in which case the 9CM keeps composure better than the 9CS, especially on explosive movie tracks, or very dense soundtracks.
2.  The bigger drivers and bigger box of the 9CM mean that it can go much louder than the 9CS.
3.  The 9CM has a sealed-box design (no port).  This means easier placement than the ported 9CS, coz of the less tendency to boom on the midbass.

dropped by spectra yesterday upang idaing ang aking kuro-kuro kay jose. since i got my 9.4s from him, i discussed with him the prospect of getting either the 9.cs and 9.cm. in his opinion, the 9.cm may be overkill as a match for my 9.4s. in terms of size, kasing laki na daw siya ng 9.2 na nakahiga  :P so he suggests that the 9.cs may be just right for my system.

i have read somewhere though that it is estimated that about 90% of a movie soundtrack comes from the center. i see the advantages you listed above sir Arnel Enero and it got me thinking. siguro depende na lang sa budget come buying time  ;)

Not a problem!  It is bass that sucks power.  But for surround speakers, you'd normally set the crossover frequency to 80Hz, meaning there's no low bass coming from the 9SR.  Given this, you won't even need 95 watts at the back to cope with the hefty power that your main fronts (which have low bass) would demand.  Siguro the 9SR would "eat" about 50 watts on average LOUD soundtracks, while your fronts may demand the full 95 watts or more.  Mas delikado pa nga kung underpowered yung receiver mo... not enough power is what fries speakers, because of "clipping".

9sr will provide you better result due to its design for surround talaga. ;D

sabi ng YPAO 80hz nga daw xover ko, so I would have to trust it.  ;D since di naman pala problem yung wattage thing, made up na isip ko to get these cute, little, wall-mountable dedicated surrounds. thanks for the replies!  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 09, 2005 at 09:21 AM
btw, any suggestions where i can get/pasadya speaker stands for the 9.cs?  ??? because of space and design constraints, i can't place my center directly above or below my tv, so lutang siya sa harap. thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 09, 2005 at 09:33 AM
d00dZ,

me beech 9.4 ba na available? anyway, how's your 9.4? :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: zakkaz on Mar 09, 2005 at 11:29 AM
d00dZ,

me beech 9.4 ba na available? anyway, how's your 9.4? :)
i think mern ang spectra
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hans_adriane on Mar 09, 2005 at 03:27 PM
thanks, sir hans, for the advice :) im into audio, my wife's into interior design :-\ but im glad that she's starting to appreciate this hobby of mine ;D kinukulit na nga ako e. kelan ko raw papalitan yung 9.1s >:D nakapatong lang kc sa tv rack. naaalog yung mga picture frames nya ;D


Nice to hear that Congrats..  :) :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 09, 2005 at 03:43 PM
d00dZ,

me beech 9.4 ba na available? anyway, how's your 9.4? :)

can't recall seeing a beech 9.4 sa showroom ng spectra. black na 9.4 meron. beech na 9.6 meron 17k :P impressive looking things those 9.6s are.  :o

you can always call ahead naman a day before you want to pick up your item para ma-order nila from the supplier.

my 9.4s are just about right for my needs. minsan kala ko naka-pro-logic IIx ako, yung pala naka stereo lang! the highs are cripylicious. mids i feel kinda bitin kasi wala nga dedicated mid range driver to, but it may also be the yamaha's "natural sound" thingamajiggy. a sub is still a must though for real kick.

all in all i'm very satisfied. pagdating ng moolah papalitan ko na yung wh-3 for an all-out diamond 9 experience  O0

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 11, 2005 at 01:18 AM
Guys,

Have anyone compare the Diamond 8 and 9?? had a chance and notice sweeter yun mids ng 9. :) :) IMHO.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: redstarrising on Mar 11, 2005 at 07:27 AM
Guys,

Just curious have anyone experienced those old england made Diamond 3 and 4.
How is performance? Baka meron dyan nag o-own pa share naman.

Thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: turismo1997 on Mar 11, 2005 at 09:16 AM
mga bro,

balak ko kasi bumili ng rx-v1500... ano kayang magandang setup na wharfdale diamond 9 speakers para dito..


thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: turismo1997 on Mar 11, 2005 at 09:25 AM
BTW, yung prices ba na naka post sa unang page eh pang pairs na. Thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Mar 11, 2005 at 01:54 PM
Guys,

Have anyone compare the Diamond 8 and 9?? had a chance and notice sweeter yun mids ng 9. :) :) IMHO.

Much, much sweeter, I agree.  Especially on the 9.6 and 9CM, the mid is also more pronounced (has more presence).  This makes female vocals, especially, much more soulful and expressive.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Arnel E. on Mar 11, 2005 at 01:55 PM
BTW, yung prices ba na naka post sa unang page eh pang pairs na. Thanks

All prices quoted here are for the pair.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 13, 2005 at 09:01 PM
mga bro,

balak ko kasi bumili ng rx-v1500... ano kayang magandang setup na wharfdale diamond 9 speakers para dito..


thanks in advance.

since medyo flagship yang receiver mo, suggest ko na yung 9.6, 9.1, 9.cm and the sw250 :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Mar 14, 2005 at 05:52 AM
d00dZ,

me beech 9.4 ba na available? anyway, how's your 9.4? :)

meron bro sa spectra, got mine last friday,
inorder ko ng am, then pm meron agad...
btw, thanks to les of spectra, MABUHAY ANG SPECTRA, ANG BABAIT NG MGA SALES PERSON  ;) ;) :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 14, 2005 at 07:42 AM
meron bro sa spectra, got mine last friday,
inorder ko ng am, then pm meron agad...
btw, thanks to les of spectra, MABUHAY ANG SPECTRA, ANG BABAIT NG MGA SALES PERSON  ;) ;) :D

sir vhong, kumusta naman yung tunog?

nagkaron ka na rin ng rosewood :) congrats :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Mar 14, 2005 at 12:20 PM
sir vhong, kumusta naman yung tunog?

nagkaron ka na rin ng rosewood :) congrats :)
thanks.... sa totoo lang first time ko magkaroon ng flr stander na speaker, pero mas maganda talaga 9.4 kompara sa 9.1 ko, buong buo tunog nya, lalo na pasubok ko sa power amp ko stereo mode grabe napa wow ako, kahit break in period palang swabe magdeliver.  ;)
pero pag movie or stereo using my marantz 4400, medyo kapos sa bass, >:( cguro dahil bago pa, hintay lang cguro ng konting time....pero para sa akin okey na okey na ito.... ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 14, 2005 at 12:27 PM
sobrang nakakaen-ganyo yung review mo sir vhong >:D balak ko din sana yang 9.4. ok na kay misis kaso nakita nya yung ma b2 na black, mas gusto naman daw nya ngayon yun. gulo no? >:(

anyway, enjoy your new gears :) sana ako naman next ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Mar 14, 2005 at 12:38 PM
sobrang nakakaen-ganyo yung review mo sir vhong >:D balak ko din sana yang 9.4. ok na kay misis kaso nakita nya yung ma b2 na black, mas gusto naman daw nya ngayon yun. gulo no? >:(

anyway, enjoy your new gears :) sana ako naman next ;D

dapat 9.2 lang kukunin ko, pero wala akong makitang murang stand, so nauwi sa 9.4,
para sa akin parang 9.2 lang tunog ng b2, mas maganda tumunog silver series nila. para lang sa akin ha, kasi before nagkaroon din ako ng b2, pero hindi nagtagal sa akin. ;D
PERO IKAW KUNG SAAN KA MASAYA SUPORTAHAN KA NG MGA PDVD MEMBER. HEHEHE... >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 14, 2005 at 12:58 PM
dapat 9.2 lang kukunin ko, pero wala akong makitang murang stand, so nauwi sa 9.4,
para sa akin parang 9.2 lang tunog ng b2, mas maganda tumunog silver series nila. para lang sa akin ha, kasi before nagkaroon din ako ng b2, pero hindi nagtagal sa akin. ;D
PERO IKAW KUNG SAAN KA MASAYA SUPORTAHAN KA NG MGA PDVD MEMBER. HEHEHE... >:D

hey, hey...

maraming salamat sa comment mo about the b2 :) i will surely consider it :)

mahal nga ng stands no? >:(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 16, 2005 at 02:54 AM
hey, hey...

maraming salamat sa comment mo about the b2 :) i will surely consider it :)

mahal nga ng stands no? >:(

Bili na bro..tapos gaganda pa ng color available. :) :D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 16, 2005 at 03:30 AM
thanks.... sa totoo lang first time ko magkaroon ng flr stander na speaker, pero mas maganda talaga 9.4 kompara sa 9.1 ko, buong buo tunog nya, lalo na pasubok ko sa power amp ko stereo mode grabe napa wow ako, kahit break in period palang swabe magdeliver.  ;)
pero pag movie or stereo using my marantz 4400, medyo kapos sa bass, >:( cguro dahil bago pa, hintay lang cguro ng konting time....pero para sa akin okey na okey na ito.... ;)

Sir congrats 9.4 wowow.. ako din before sana 9.4 but got a good deal with my stand (1k ) so got 9.2 instead tapos my uncle saw and heard my simple setup bili din sya kaya 9.4 naman binili namin hehehhee difference of the two.. hmmm bass mas rounder sa 9.4 pero i like the mids of the bookshelf.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Mar 16, 2005 at 05:52 AM
Sir congrats 9.4 wowow.. ako din before sana 9.4 but got a good deal with my stand (1k ) so got 9.2 instead tapos my uncle saw and heard my simple setup bili din sya kaya 9.4 naman binili namin hehehhee difference of the two.. hmmm bass mas rounder sa 9.4 pero i like the mids of the bookshelf. :)

thanks sir, idol nga kita eh,  :D dahil sa review mo sa 9.2, kaya bili din ako, kaya lang wala akong makita talagang murang stand so 9.4 kinuha ko, pero rosewood ;) HINDI BA MATAGAL NATIN HININTAY KULAY NA YAN? HEHEHE.... sa wakas nakabili din ako :D CONGRATS SA MGA OWNER NG DIAMOND 9 SERIES :D ;) :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 16, 2005 at 09:18 AM
nagpasikat kagabi si 9.1 :D galing ng delivery kay julia fordham and enya :) nakatunog yata na papalitan na sya hehehe nadurog puso ko kaya promise ko sa kanya, ibibili ko sya ng stands ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 16, 2005 at 09:46 AM
nagpasikat kagabi si 9.1 :D galing ng delivery kay julia fordham and enya :) nakatunog yata na papalitan na sya hehehe nadurog puso ko kaya promise ko sa kanya, ibibili ko sya ng stands ;D

Pre iiba pa sound nya with a good stand.. contact punk_kid alam ko meron sya cheap stand na ok din same as mine.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 16, 2005 at 09:48 AM
thanks sir, idol nga kita eh,  :D dahil sa review mo sa 9.2, kaya bili din ako, kaya lang wala akong makita talagang murang stand so 9.4 kinuha ko, pero rosewood ;) HINDI BA MATAGAL NATIN HININTAY KULAY NA YAN? HEHEHE.... sa wakas nakabili din ako :D CONGRATS SA MGA OWNER NG DIAMOND 9 SERIES :D ;) :)

Idol naku po.. pero OO tagal ng rosewood... di bale black hehehehe si J_albert naka 9.2 rosewood ata. ;D

Akin paired with a Surplus integrated with DAC wowow galing talaga!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 16, 2005 at 11:17 AM
Pre iiba pa sound nya with a good stand.. contact punk_kid alam ko meron sya cheap stand na ok din same as mine.

as always, thanks for the tip, sir hans :) will consider once magka-extra cash :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Mar 16, 2005 at 12:19 PM
mine is lovan, dinagdagan ko nag ng di kuwatro na pvc pipe, tapos pinuno ko cemento, yun gumanda lalo tunog ng 9.1 ko. lovan stand ko ngayon may bigat na 12 kilos each, hehehe... so kahit anong lakas ng tugtog walang vibrate.. :D
subukan nyo rin, murang stand mapapaganda nyo.... tip lang po ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: garee on Mar 16, 2005 at 03:01 PM
mine is lovan, dinagdagan ko nag ng di kuwatro na pvc pipe, tapos pinuno ko cemento, yun gumanda lalo tunog ng 9.1 ko. lovan stand ko ngayon may bigat na 12 kilos each, hehehe... so kahit anong lakas ng tugtog walang vibrate.. :D
subukan nyo rin, murang stand mapapaganda nyo.... tip lang po ;)

kindly share some pictures of the modified stands. thanks.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Mar 16, 2005 at 04:05 PM
Koya Hans,

not for sale yung stand ko hehehe malay mo biglang kong patungan ng tooot  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Mar 16, 2005 at 04:08 PM
Koya Hans,

not for sale yung stand ko hehehe malay mo bigla kong gamitin balang araw  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: masterjericho on Mar 16, 2005 at 10:29 PM


Wharfedale site has a new look

click and see : http://wharfedale.co.uk

anyways,

what will you advice, an all diamond set up (FR FL C RR RL RC) or a diamond fronts w/ wh-3 for rears?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 17, 2005 at 03:42 AM
mine is lovan, dinagdagan ko nag ng di kuwatro na pvc pipe, tapos pinuno ko cemento, yun gumanda lalo tunog ng 9.1 ko. lovan stand ko ngayon may bigat na 12 kilos each, hehehe... so kahit anong lakas ng tugtog walang vibrate.. :D
subukan nyo rin, murang stand mapapaganda nyo.... tip lang po ;)

Uy ayos yan sir.. mas steady mas less vibration and less resonance you'll hear result is clearer and cleaner sound. :) ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 17, 2005 at 03:43 AM
Koya Hans,

not for sale yung stand ko hehehe malay mo biglang kong patungan ng tooot  >:D

Opss sorry... hmmm ano yan bilhin mo ha?? ;D ;D :o :o
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 17, 2005 at 08:23 AM

Wharfedale site has a new look

click and see : http://wharfedale.co.uk

anyways,

what will you advice, an all diamond set up (FR FL C RR RL RC) or a diamond fronts w/ wh-3 for rears?

all diamond syempre ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 17, 2005 at 11:31 AM

Wharfedale site has a new look

click and see : http://wharfedale.co.uk

anyways,

what will you advice, an all diamond set up (FR FL C RR RL RC) or a diamond fronts w/ wh-3 for rears?

I'm actually going for an all diamond set up, from having wh-3 center and rears! hehe  ;D

Just in case you're going for option two, I'm selling my wh-3 now

http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=35515.0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Mar 17, 2005 at 12:10 PM
I'm actually going for an all diamond set up, from having wh-3 center and rears! hehe ;D

Just in case you're going for option two, I'm selling my wh-3 now

http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=35515.0


doodz ano ba itsura ng wh-3? hindi pa kasi ako nakakita eh, tanong ko spectra pero never pa daw cla nagkaroon, and hindi din nila alam. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Mar 17, 2005 at 12:13 PM
kindly share some pictures of the modified stands. thanks.

sorry bro, mahirap lang ako, wala ako digicam eh....  :D
kung malapit ka sa amin pwede mo pasyalan, BACOOR CAVITE LANG NAMAN... HEHEHE... hayaan mo pag uwi mo may padala  ako sa iyong talaba....  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 17, 2005 at 12:47 PM
doodz ano ba itsura ng wh-3? hindi pa kasi ako nakakita eh, tanong ko spectra pero never pa daw cla nagkaroon, and hindi din nila alam. ;D

vhongbiker, baka nahilo lang yung natanungan mo e sa kanila ako bumili! I modified my post sa buy&sell to include pics, or you can check out sa new look wharfedale website

http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=35515.0

http://wharfedale.co.uk

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: garee on Mar 17, 2005 at 01:20 PM

Wharfedale site has a new look

click and see : http://wharfedale.co.uk

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Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 17, 2005 at 01:22 PM
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use google. search 'wharfedale'.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: odyo on Mar 17, 2005 at 03:44 PM
use this
http://www.wharfedale.co.uk

wildcards redirection is probably not enabled  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Mar 18, 2005 at 07:37 AM
vhongbiker, baka nahilo lang yung natanungan mo e sa kanila ako bumili! I modified my post sa buy&sell to include pics, or you can check out sa new look wharfedale website

http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=35515.0

http://wharfedale.co.uk



bro ok naman wh3 ah! ganda ng pix and specs nya, hope ganun din ang tunog.  ??? btw. plastic ba enclosure ng rear?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 18, 2005 at 09:14 AM
bro ok naman wh3 ah! ganda ng pix and specs nya, hope ganun din ang tunog. ??? btw. plastic ba enclosure ng rear?

sadly, plastic-ish nga yung enclosure ng rear. pero yung center i think wood yata. labo nga kung bakit di consistent yung finish kung uusisain.  ???

as for sound, the surrounds do what they're supposed to. dispersion is very wide. yung center naman, since it has smaller drivers than my other speakers, it sounds compartively thinner sa bass. the horn type tweeters for both sound a little sibilant to me.

ibang-iba kasi aesthetics ng wh-3 sa diamond 9, so visually they don't jive as much as i would've wanted to. kaya nga bumili na rin ako ng diamond 9.sr for side surrounds kahapon sa spectra.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 18, 2005 at 09:24 AM
sadly, plastic-ish nga yung enclosure ng rear. pero yung center i think wood yata. labo nga kung bakit di consistent yung finish kung uusisain.  ???

as for sound, the surrounds do what they're supposed to. dispersion is very wide. yung center naman, since it has smaller drivers than my other speakers, it sounds compartively thinner sa bass. the horn type tweeters for both sound a little sibilant to me.

ibang-iba kasi aesthetics ng wh-3 sa diamond 9, so visually they don't jive as much as i would've wanted to. kaya nga bumili na rin ako ng diamond 9.sr for side surrounds kahapon sa spectra.  ;D

wow d00dZ, center na lang kulang ah :) congrats :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Mar 18, 2005 at 09:28 AM
sadly, plastic-ish nga yung enclosure ng rear. pero yung center i think wood yata. labo nga kung bakit di consistent yung finish kung uusisain. ???

as for sound, the surrounds do what they're supposed to. dispersion is very wide. yung center naman, since it has smaller drivers than my other speakers, it sounds compartively thinner sa bass. the horn type tweeters for both sound a little sibilant to me.

ibang-iba kasi aesthetics ng wh-3 sa diamond 9, so visually they don't jive as much as i would've wanted to. kaya nga bumili na rin ako ng diamond 9.sr for side surrounds kahapon sa spectra. ;D

congrats bro. ;)
how much na ngaun diamond sr? ayaw mo ba ng 9.1? ok din ito for surround, may nakapost sa buy and sell section, 4k lang yata,  sana un nalang kinuha mo. >:(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 18, 2005 at 09:31 AM
congrats bro. ;)
how much na ngaun diamond sr? ayaw mo ba ng 9.1? ok din ito for surround, may nakapost sa buy and sell section, 4k lang yata,  sana un nalang kinuha mo. >:(


i believe the sale was withdrawn. sayang nga e. sobrang sulit sana nun :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Mar 18, 2005 at 09:34 AM
i believe the sale was withdrawn. sayang nga e. sobrang sulit sana nun :)

sobrang sulit bro, less 1.5k yun, kasi brandnew is 5.5k,
akin 9.1 din gamit ko for surround at sobrang happy ako sa result.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 18, 2005 at 10:23 AM
congrats bro. ;)
how much na ngaun diamond sr? ayaw mo ba ng 9.1? ok din ito for surround, may nakapost sa buy and sell section, 4k lang yata,  sana un nalang kinuha mo. >:(


P3,800 pa rin. kino-consider ko nga rin dati yung 9.1, kaso for wall mounting yung surrounds ko (na-drill na kasi e  :P) mahi-hirapan pa ako maghanap ng paraan masabit yung 9.1 kung sakasakali  ;D tsaka at 80hz crossover, di ko na rin siguro kailangan ng frequence range and power advantage ng 9.1 over the 9.sr

wow d00dZ, center na lang kulang ah :) congrats :)

thanks! oo nga e! bibili na rin sana ako ng 9.cs or 9.cm sa mar 22 para pagkatapos ng cutoff ng billing ng credit card  ;D kaso BPI lang sa spectra, e HSBC mastercard akin. aling dealer ba ino-honor to?  ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 18, 2005 at 10:32 AM
thanks! oo nga e! bibili na rin sana ako ng 9.cs or 9.cm sa mar 22 para pagkatapos ng cutoff ng billing ng credit card  ;D kaso BPI lang sa spectra, e HSBC mastercard akin. aling dealer ba ino-honor to?  ???

spectra honors any visa or mastercard credit card. i used citibank mastercard dati. pag bpi ba pede deferred?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: zakkaz on Mar 18, 2005 at 10:40 AM
spectra honors any visa or mastercard credit card. i used citibank mastercard dati. pag bpi ba pede deferred?
they accept any visa mastercard
ang alam ko bpi n standard lang ang may deferred sa kanila
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Mar 18, 2005 at 10:52 AM
P3,800 pa rin. kino-consider ko nga rin dati yung 9.1, kaso for wall mounting yung surrounds ko (na-drill na kasi e :P) mahi-hirapan pa ako maghanap ng paraan masabit yung 9.1 kung sakasakali ;D tsaka at 80hz crossover, di ko na rin siguro kailangan ng frequence range and power advantage ng 9.1 over the 9.sr

try cybermms, he offerd 0%, issue kalang post dated check, kaya lang sa imus ang store nya....

thanks! oo nga e! bibili na rin sana ako ng 9.cs or 9.cm sa mar 22 para pagkatapos ng cutoff ng billing ng credit card ;D kaso BPI lang sa spectra, e HSBC mastercard akin. aling dealer ba ino-honor to? ???

try to contact cybermms, they offerd 0%, issue ka lang PDC, kaya lang sa imus ang store nya..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 18, 2005 at 11:09 AM
they accept any visa mastercard
ang alam ko bpi n standard lang ang may deferred sa kanila

as in 0%? >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Mar 18, 2005 at 11:23 AM
masama ang balak mo bro hahahaha
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Mar 18, 2005 at 11:24 AM
as in 0%? >:D

NO! hindi sila kasali sa BPI madness.... :-[
sayang nga eh!!!!! :-X
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 18, 2005 at 11:28 AM
masama ang balak mo bro hahahaha

para sa katulad kong kapus-palad, nde dapat pinapalagpas yang mga 0% na yan hehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Mar 18, 2005 at 12:25 PM
Ahihihihi... parehas lang tayong kapus palad pre. di nga ko nakapag upgrade ng 9 series  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimpao on Mar 18, 2005 at 12:57 PM
Ahihihihi... parehas lang tayong kapus palad pre. di nga ko nakapag upgrade ng 9 series  ;D

ako, alam ko kung bakit ka di makapag-upgrade.  >:D >:D >:D  pre, nagka-usapna kayo ni kOYA?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 18, 2005 at 01:03 PM
Ahihihihi... parehas lang tayong kapus palad pre. di nga ko nakapag upgrade ng 9 series  ;D

8.3 yung sayo di ba? ako kc bago lang dito. inabutan ko yung 9 series na. pro parang nde ka naman yata interesado sa 9 e :) SET ba o push pull? :) (naks parang me alam ako tungkol dito hehehe)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Mar 18, 2005 at 04:11 PM
Kim,

nakareserve na pala yung tooot kay tooot eh...  :(

bumblebee,

yup. 8.3 lang yung sa akin  ;D gusto mo ng PP amp? may pinabebenta soup up na yun  :o
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 19, 2005 at 11:18 AM
punk_kid,

Pwede naman ata pakiusapan si masta dun sa request mo. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Mar 21, 2005 at 01:38 PM
salamat koya  ;) tuloy ang ligaya  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bonzai on Mar 21, 2005 at 04:23 PM
sobrang sulit bro, less 1.5k yun, kasi brandnew is 5.5k,
akin 9.1 din gamit ko for surround at sobrang happy ako sa result.

bro saan ba makikita yung ads na yan?

pwede kayang gawing center channel ang 9.1?

im using 9.2 for my front, then im planing to get 2 pairs of 9.1, 1pair  be my surround and the other pair is my front & rear center,  coz im using rxv440 (6.1 channel) pwede kaya yun?

ok din kaya ang dialogue ng 9.1 as my center channel or iba pa rin ba ang 9cm or 9cs?

tenx in advance
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 21, 2005 at 04:27 PM
bro saan ba makikita yung ads na yan?

pwede kayang gawing center channel ang 9.1?

im using 9.2 for my front, then im planing to get 2 pairs of 9.1, 1pair  be my surround and the other pair is my front & rear center,  coz im using rxv440 (6.1 channel) pwede kaya yun?

ok din kaya ang dialogue ng 9.1 as my center channel or iba pa rin ba ang 9cm or 9cs?

tenx in advance

pedeng-pede yang binabalak mo :) pro mas maganda ata kung 9.2 rin yung center.

http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=35394.0

the sale was withdrawn.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bonzai on Mar 21, 2005 at 05:04 PM
pedeng-pede yang binabalak mo :) pro mas maganda ata kung 9.2 rin yung center.

http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=35394.0

the sale was withdrawn.

tenx..

pero nagdadalawang isip lang ako baka mas maganda parin kung 9cm or 9cs pa rin, kasi diba iba ang design ng center speaker?

pero syempre mas mura naman talaga if 9.1 ang gagamitin ko.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: turismo1997 on Mar 21, 2005 at 07:09 PM
mga sir, saan po mas magandang i-match ang yamaha rx-v1500? sa 9.2,9.3 or yung flrstander na 9.5?..thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 21, 2005 at 08:00 PM
mga sir, saan po mas magandang i-match ang yamaha rx-v1500? sa 9.2,9.3 or yung flrstander na 9.5?..thanks

id go for 9.4 :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 22, 2005 at 12:43 AM
mga sir, saan po mas magandang i-match ang yamaha rx-v1500? sa 9.2,9.3 or yung flrstander na 9.5?..thanks

For HT go for floorstander para meron slam and fuller sound effect.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Mar 22, 2005 at 05:56 AM
tenx..

pero nagdadalawang isip lang ako baka mas maganda parin kung 9cm or 9cs pa rin, kasi diba iba ang design ng center speaker?

pero syempre mas mura naman talaga if 9.1 ang gagamitin ko.




ok na ok yan binabalak mo bro, pero bago mo gwin yan punta ka muna sa spectra and try mo muna, ok lang naman sa kanila yan eh..... ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Mar 22, 2005 at 09:09 AM
bonzai,

kung ako... 9c pa rin kasi yun talaga pang center. pag complete na 5.1/6.1 setup mo then you can experiment by replacing 9.1 as your center speaker... iwas gastos pa hehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mcbry on Mar 22, 2005 at 09:26 AM
mga sir, saan po mas magandang i-match ang yamaha rx-v1500? sa 9.2,9.3 or yung flrstander na 9.5?..thanks

sir, depende din sa size ng room mo... if malaki ang room mo, go for floorstander na para fuller ang sound nya.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Mar 22, 2005 at 09:41 AM
Ahihihihi... parehas lang tayong kapus palad pre. di nga ko nakapag upgrade ng 9 series  ;D


d ka makapg-upgrade to 9 series samantalang panay ang sakmal mo sa LPs.  hehehe

fish tayo. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 22, 2005 at 11:53 AM

d ka makapg-upgrade to 9 series samantalang panay ang sakmal mo sa LPs.  hehehe

fish tayo. ;D

Meron secret yan senor jetok.. heheehhee ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bonzai on Mar 23, 2005 at 10:39 AM
bonzai,

kung ako... 9c pa rin kasi yun talaga pang center. pag complete na 5.1/6.1 setup mo then you can experiment by replacing 9.1 as your center speaker... iwas gastos pa hehehe
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ok, siguro ill go for 9c kasi baka mabitin lang ako sa vocals ng 9.1 kasi iba talaga ang design ng center spkr eh, pero try ko pa rin pakinggan baka nga naman pwede rin naman angh 9.1 kasi marami rin namang gumagamit nun para sa center nila diba.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 24, 2005 at 04:33 AM
Wahoo! Nakabili na rin ako sa wakas ng 9.CS!  ;D ;D ;D I think match lang sila ng 9.4s ko, malamang kung pinagkagutuman ko yung extra P1.8k for the 9.CM baka natabunan na yung 9.4s.

Guwapo talaga ng all-diamond 9 setup with the grills off. :o

Kayod uli ako para sa isa pang pair of 9.SR para 7 matching channels of Diamond 9 sonic bliss  :P
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: eVo-23X on Apr 03, 2005 at 04:53 PM
how much is the Wharfedale 9CM?  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hans_adriane on Apr 04, 2005 at 03:41 AM
Wahoo! Nakabili na rin ako sa wakas ng 9.CS!  ;D ;D ;D I think match lang sila ng 9.4s ko, malamang kung pinagkagutuman ko yung extra P1.8k for the 9.CM baka natabunan na yung 9.4s.

Guwapo talaga ng all-diamond 9 setup with the grills off. :o

Kayod uli ako para sa isa pang pair of 9.SR para 7 matching channels of Diamond 9 sonic bliss  :P

Bro Congrats dyan.. di lang Gwapo sa looks yan pre wait mo pagbreak in and you'll enjoy it more pa.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Apr 04, 2005 at 09:13 AM
Bro Congrats dyan.. di lang Gwapo sa looks yan pre wait mo pagbreak in and you'll enjoy it more pa.. ;D

Thanks bro. Yung 9.4s ko na-break in na rinig tuloy yung difference. Matigas pa yung tunog kasi factory fresh. Lagi na nga lang ako naka-7 channel stereo para babad across the frequency range lahat ng speakers para break in agad.  ;D

how much is the Wharfedale 9CM? :)


9.cm: P6,300. see my pm on other prices.  O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Apr 04, 2005 at 12:18 PM
Wahoo! Nakabili na rin ako sa wakas ng 9.CS!  ;D ;D ;D I think match lang sila ng 9.4s ko, malamang kung pinagkagutuman ko yung extra P1.8k for the 9.CM baka natabunan na yung 9.4s.

Guwapo talaga ng all-diamond 9 setup with the grills off. :o

Kayod uli ako para sa isa pang pair of 9.SR para 7 matching channels of Diamond 9 sonic bliss  :P

d00dz, congrats bro, ano kulay set up mo? mas guwapo siguro kung rosewood lahat ;)
malamang hindi mo maiwan iwan yan ngayon, parang gusto mo laging wkend para lagi mong kasama yan, hehehe....
enjoy listening bro  ;) :D :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Apr 04, 2005 at 01:04 PM
d00dz, congrats bro, ano kulay set up mo? mas guwapo siguro kung rosewood lahat ;)
malamang hindi mo maiwan iwan yan ngayon, parang gusto mo laging wkend para lagi mong kasama yan, hehehe....
enjoy listening bro  ;) :D :)

Thanks bro. Black ash lahat. Impulse buy kasi yung 9.4 eh, kaya yung itim nabili ko tuloy.  ;D ;D ;D Pogi din pala yung rosewood, class ang dating. Okey din yung beech, malinis naman. Beech kasi yung 9.6 na nakadisplay sa Spectra ibang level talaga hehe  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: YrNeH on Apr 05, 2005 at 05:28 AM
tanong lang mga kapatid: magkano 9.6?  salamat :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 05, 2005 at 07:42 AM
tanong lang mga kapatid: magkano 9.6?  salamat :)

last i checked it was around 17.5k.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Apr 05, 2005 at 01:24 PM
Jetok,

yun lang kasi ang kaya ko sa ngayon pre  ;D ;D

Hans,

meron ako secret agent  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Apr 06, 2005 at 03:59 PM
Mukhang interesting yang sikreto mo ha kid_lat.  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on Apr 06, 2005 at 07:30 PM
Grabe ang mga banat nyo sa speakers ng Diamond... ang 9.1 ginawang surrounds tapos puro 9.6 na ang tanong!

Ang gamit ko naman sa bahay ay 9.2 para sa Front.  Isip ko ngayon, kukuha ako ng WH-2 para sa Surrounds (with Center) tapos dagdagan ko ng Diamond 9CS para sa yun na talaga ang sa Center Front.  Pag ganun, buo na ang set-up, 6.1.  Ang Center ng WH-2 gagawin ko Center Rear.

Ano recommendation nyo?  (medyo mababa lang talaga budget)

Thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: musika on Apr 06, 2005 at 08:01 PM
Guys! dont you notice why the price of the wharfedale diamond 9 series from UK is almost the same with MA, (check from magazine price) but here in the phil. its 3 times cheaper. ??? does it has something to do with europian or asian version.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Apr 07, 2005 at 05:50 AM
Grabe ang mga banat nyo sa speakers ng Diamond... ang 9.1 ginawang surrounds tapos puro 9.6 na ang tanong!

Ang gamit ko naman sa bahay ay 9.2 para sa Front.  Isip ko ngayon, kukuha ako ng WH-2 para sa Surrounds (with Center) tapos dagdagan ko ng Diamond 9CS para sa yun na talaga ang sa Center Front.  Pag ganun, buo na ang set-up, 6.1.  Ang Center ng WH-2 gagawin ko Center Rear.

Ano recommendation nyo?  (medyo mababa lang talaga budget)

Thanks!

ok yan iniisip mo bro, 9.2 ok na ok yan sa both music and ht. ;)
ano gamit mo receiver?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 07, 2005 at 07:22 AM
Guys! dont you notice why the price of the wharfedale diamond 9 series from UK is almost the same with MA, (check from magazine price) but here in the phil. its 3 times cheaper. ??? does it has something to do with europian or asian version.

wharfedale is a chinese-owned company. i don't think there's a european or asian version of wharfedales. most, if not all, of them are manufactured in the new china factory.

as for pricing, it largely depends on the main distributor.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on Apr 07, 2005 at 08:41 AM
ok yan iniisip mo bro, 9.2 ok na ok yan sa both music and ht. ;)
ano gamit mo receiver?

Vhongbiker!  Thanks for the reply.  Receiver ko ay Yamaha RX-V450, naka promo price kasi.  isip ko dati kunin ko Marantz pero, Yamaha ang nanalo dahil sa mga reviews and feedback narining ko.  Highly improved daw kasi itong Yamaha, sabi nila.

Oo nga, as for the speakers, I need to sell my old stuff so that I can get a WH-2 Set plus a Diamon Center.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Apr 07, 2005 at 10:34 AM
itgbkj,

I suggest you auditon WH-3 first.  Heard good feedback from this new babies.  ;)

Grabe ang mga banat nyo sa speakers ng Diamond... ang 9.1 ginawang surrounds tapos puro 9.6 na ang tanong!

Ang gamit ko naman sa bahay ay 9.2 para sa Front.  Isip ko ngayon, kukuha ako ng WH-2 para sa Surrounds (with Center) tapos dagdagan ko ng Diamond 9CS para sa yun na talaga ang sa Center Front.  Pag ganun, buo na ang set-up, 6.1.  Ang Center ng WH-2 gagawin ko Center Rear.

Ano recommendation nyo?  (medyo mababa lang talaga budget)

Thanks!

musika,

Yes, the ones sold in the eu are the onces assembled there thus the cost.

Guys! dont you notice why the price of the wharfedale diamond 9 series from UK is almost the same with MA, (check from magazine price) but here in the phil. its 3 times cheaper. ??? does it has something to do with europian or asian version.

bumblebee,

No, wharfedale is a uk based company, they just have an assembly plant in China.  Although made in china, the parts are from the uk.

wharfedale is a chinese-owned company. i don't think there's a european or asian version of wharfedales. most, if not all, of them are manufactured in the new china factory.

as for pricing, it largely depends on the main distributor.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 07, 2005 at 10:46 AM
bumblebee,

No, wharfedale is a uk based company, they just have an assembly plant in China.  Although made in china, the parts are from the uk.


uk-based, yes, but still chinese-owned :) i believe all components are made in-house. i assume it means all made in china w/c isn't a bad thing ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Apr 07, 2005 at 12:20 PM
uk-based, yes, but still chinese-owned :) i believe all components are made in-house. i assume it means all made in china w/c isn't a bad thing ;)

ahh! gaun ba yun sir? akala ko components made in uk but assembled in china ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: seph1018 on Apr 07, 2005 at 12:47 PM
Am considering buying a 9CS to replace my Diamond8 center. Reviews naman pls. Thnx ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 07, 2005 at 01:03 PM
ahh! gaun ba yun sir? akala ko components made in uk but assembled in china ???

according to their website, their R&D is still based in the UK.

here's an article from hificorner:

Colin MacKenzie's visit to Wharfedale
Wharfedale, established in 1932 by Gilbert Briggs, is possibly Britain's best known hifi brand. Famous for their loudspeakers, the company has gone through a number of owners since Gilbert Briggs sold it in 1958.

The most recent owners are twin Chinese businessmen who, naturally, have moved some of the production to China in order to keep the product competitively priced.

I was invited to look around their production facility in China. I have been fortunate enough to visit some factories in Japan some years ago, but never any in China. I had mixed feelings about what I would see and how this would impact on the ethics of selling Wharfedale products.

Fortunately I was pleasantly surprised. The factory uses, as I expected, substantially more labour than in other countries I've visited. Staff, although paid low by UK standards, are provided with housing and seemed reasonably content, although I admit it was difficult having a conversation as most of them didn't speak Scots and the Chinese words I picked up the previous evening in a Karaoke Bar didn't seem of much use.

As there isn't a tremendous amount of automation the products are essentially hand built, although great pains were made to ensure consistent quality control throughout. The Wharfedale 'story' is quite strong. Most of the components are now built within the factory. When they found a good company that made components they required, they bought them and moved them in! Here is one of a few factories which make all of their cabinets, drive units, crossovers, and assemble them by hand at affordable prices!

I suppose some people may consider that I'm quite cynical when being spun a sales pitch, (aren't we all) and I'm not easily bought with a drink in a Karaoke Bar or even a visit to China.

However the Wharfedale people have some realistic views. They realise that independent retailers in the UK are concerned about 'lending' their name to mass market products (not manufactured by them) and sold through a supermarket chain. They did take a lot of stick from me and other retailers about this philosophy.

Furthermore, Wharfedale marketing people have noted that the current trend (and most likely future) of loudspeakers being sold without systems is through hifi specialists and independent retailers. They have started to seriously address this issue through the introduction of products suitable for more discerning customers and independent hifi retailers. The most obvious example is the recently high reviewed 'Diamond 8' loudspeaker.

Virtually all of the components are built 'in house' - how many British speaker manufacturers can claim this nowadays?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ca89056 on Apr 07, 2005 at 01:15 PM
Wharfedale was bought in 1996 by a chinese company - IAG (the same company also owns Quad). They manufacture almost all of the speaker components they use in their own facility in Shenzen.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Apr 07, 2005 at 05:17 PM
In short, for all intents and purposes, it's Made in China, right?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Apr 07, 2005 at 06:52 PM
designed in UK, made in china
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on Apr 07, 2005 at 10:50 PM
itgbkj,

I suggest you auditon WH-3 first.  Heard good feedback from this new babies.  ;)


Hey, anyone who knows the selling price of WH-3?  Likewise, someone was asking a question on Diamond 9 CS - can anyone share their experience with the two sets of speakers?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Apr 08, 2005 at 10:00 AM
Hey, anyone who knows the selling price of WH-3? Likewise, someone was asking a question on Diamond 9 CS - can anyone share their experience with the two sets of speakers?

Thanks!

WH-3 is P4,800. Sold mine to buy Diamond 9.CS and 9.SR, so i guess i can answer your questions.  ;D

The real reason I sold my WH-3 is for the looks only, to match my 9.4s (you can verify that from my earlier posts hehe) >:D Anyway, big plus sa WH-3 surrounds ay yung tripolar design, wherein meron 1 bass driver in front at 2 tweeters at about 45% to the sides. Panalo sa envelopment, plus medyo malaki yung bass driver as compared to most bipolar speakers in the price range so dynamic range is good. The front, however, has a greater tendency to be boomy as compared to the 9.CS, even if both are rear ported.

The 9.CS naman, I'll have to give you my review after I break mine in. Matigas pa kasi yung tunog dahil brand new pa.  ;D However, in my opinion it matches my 9.4s fairly well, plus if you see the Wharfedale Diamond series brochure they always recommend the smaller center to match their fronts. Some of our friends here recommend the 9.CM to match the 9.2, and although i have nothing against it lalo na if you have the budget (9.CM is P6,300), baka lang masapawan yung fronts kung mas maganda quality ng center. Just my opinion.  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Apr 08, 2005 at 10:05 AM
As for the Wharfedale made in China thing, I don't have much of a problem with that. Economists predict that China will be the next economic superpower anyway with the US messing up everything, so before long we might change our perception and be prouder of our made in China gear.  O0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: av_phile1 on Apr 08, 2005 at 10:28 AM
Yup,  that's the reality of business these days.  I think even my Mordaunt Shorts are similarly placed.  Like I said,  very soon everything will be made in China.  Except babies.   ;D  The labels may still say Made in England or UK, but I guess making new labels to say made in  china would add to the price tag.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 08, 2005 at 10:46 AM
i just love chinese ;D wharfs, siomai, siopao, any pao, mami, wanton kung-fu and zhao wei ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Apr 08, 2005 at 11:59 AM
i just love chinese ;D wharfs, siomai, siopao, any pao, mami, wanton kung-fu and zhao wei ;D ;D ;D

Shu Qi, White Flower liniment, Chinese love balls...  >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: odyopayl on Apr 08, 2005 at 12:43 PM
For me it doesn't matter if it's made in China, we are now on the Stage of Globalization, Qualities are being Standardized because of ISO (International Standardization Organization).
even Chinese food napakasarap right? ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: pabili on Apr 08, 2005 at 05:42 PM
i just love chinese ;D wharfs, siomai, siopao, any pao, mami, wanton kung-fu and zhao wei ;D ;D ;D

iba ba ang chinese copper sa british copper na ginamit sa wharf (para di OT  ;D) ? Sa chemistry, lam ko copper is Cu eh!  ;D

those UK companies, and other european companies for that matter are so protective of their own markets - and they really charged so high for similar products in asia.

But I think some UK companies still do hype their products as UK-made blah blah blah.

So when reading products that says MADE IN UK, any of the two might be true
(1) they are lying  ;D (kasi china made din siya) but raking so much profits  8)
(2) they are to close down few months from now  ::)
Title: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on Apr 13, 2005 at 12:54 PM
Hello... I'm planning to get Diamond 9 CS... I'd like to know if the unit is equipped with Banana Plug Sockets?  The Diamond 9.2 aren't.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on Apr 13, 2005 at 12:57 PM
itgbkj,

I suggest you auditon WH-3 first.  Heard good feedback from this new babies.  ;)


Hello... I saw the Big big big WH-3 Surrounds.  But then, the salesman, when questioned which is better a WH-2 or Wh-3, simply said, "sir, WH-3 has only one driver... WH-2 has two." hmmm... besides medyo masyadong plastic tingnan ang WH-3... just a thought.  My mind is made up (for now) to get a WH-2 - unless someone else will insist that WH-3 is value for money in the long run.

I'd like to hear your feedback!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Apr 13, 2005 at 01:39 PM
Hello... I'm planning to get Diamond 9 CS... I'd like to know if the unit is equipped with Banana Plug Sockets?  The Diamond 9.2 aren't.

Yes, you can use banana plugs with the 9.CS, at biwirable pa if that's also your thing.

Hello... I saw the Big big big WH-3 Surrounds. But then, the salesman, when questioned which is better a WH-2 or Wh-3, simply said, "sir, WH-3 has only one driver... WH-2 has two." hmmm... besides medyo masyadong plastic tingnan ang WH-3... just a thought. My mind is made up (for now) to get a WH-2 - unless someone else will insist that WH-3 is value for money in the long run.

I'd like to hear your feedback!

Haven't had experience yet with the WH-2, although yung plastic-y appearance is one of the reasons I sold my WH-3, aside from wanting really bad to have an all-Diamond 9 setup.  ;D With the WH-2, you only get the "W" decal, with the WH-3, you get the entire "Wharfedale" hehe... babaw.  :P
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on Apr 13, 2005 at 04:10 PM
Yes, you can use banana plugs with the 9.CS, at biwirable pa if that's also your thing.

Nope, not into bi-wiring... too expensive... :)  and hey, thanks for the info... at least, I can start looking for one more banana plug for my center speaker wire.


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Haven't had experience yet with the WH-2, although yung plastic-y appearance is one of the reasons I sold my WH-3, aside from wanting really bad to have an all-Diamond 9 setup.  ;D With the WH-2, you only get the "W" decal, with the WH-3, you get the entire "Wharfedale" hehe... babaw.  :P
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Hahahaha... for me, for now, who cares about appearance... Just wanted to have a complete set to surround me.  Affordability and performance is what I am after... just like everyone else. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bonzai on Apr 18, 2005 at 02:19 AM
Yes, you can use banana plugs with the 9.CS, at biwirable pa if that's also your thing.

Haven't had experience yet with the WH-2, although yung plastic-y appearance is one of the reasons I sold my WH-3, aside from wanting really bad to have an all-Diamond 9 setup.  ;D With the WH-2, you only get the "W" decal, with the WH-3, you get the entire "Wharfedale" hehe... babaw.  :P


d00dZ,

i bought  9.4 pero type ko yung 9cm for my center...

masasapawan ba yung 9.4 ng 9cm?

ano bang magandang surround spkr? how bout D9 DFS?

im using yamaha 440
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 18, 2005 at 05:00 AM

d00dZ,

i bought  9.4 pero type ko yung 9cm for my center...

masasapawan ba yung 9.4 ng 9cm?

ano bang magandang surround spkr? how bout D9 DFS?

im using yamaha 440

Bro don't worry di masasapawan yan kasi meron naman adjustment sa level ng fronts and center mo.. and for me better na maganda Center speaker mo kasi most of the dialogue and effect starts sa center channel. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Apr 18, 2005 at 09:06 AM

d00dZ,

i bought  9.4 pero type ko yung 9cm for my center...

masasapawan ba yung 9.4 ng 9cm?

ano bang magandang surround spkr? how bout D9 DFS?

im using yamaha 440

Bro don't worry di masasapawan yan kasi meron naman adjustment sa level ng fronts and center mo.. and for me better na maganda Center speaker mo kasi most of the dialogue and effect starts sa center channel. ;D

bonzai, sir hans adriane is right, so long as you set the levels properly, wala namang sapawarang mangyayari. All I'm saying is that it is Wharfedale themselves who recommend the 9.CS to match the 9.4, so may-I-sunod lang ako. If you've got the extra P1,800, then by all means go for the 9.CM.  ;)

I've been asking around for the D9.DFS, pero it seems that hindi daw kumuha yung Philippine dealer nito. I'm using two pairs of D9.SR in my 7.1 setup, and it sounds fine to me. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: zakkaz on Apr 18, 2005 at 10:49 AM
bonzai, sir hans adriane is right, so long as you set the levels properly, wala namang sapawarang mangyayari. All I'm saying is that it is Wharfedale themselves who recommend the 9.CS to match the 9.4, so may-I-sunod lang ako. If you've got the extra P1,800, then by all means go for the 9.CM.  ;)

I've been asking around for the D9.DFS, pero it seems that hindi daw kumuha yung Philippine dealer nito. I'm using two pairs of D9.SR in my 7.1 setup, and it sounds fine to me. ;D
nakita ko na yung 9sr sa spectra d other day
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Apr 19, 2005 at 08:26 AM
Can anyone point me to a website showing the weights of the Diamond 9 speakers, particularly the 9.SR? I have a ceiling mounting problem kasi, as you may read in this thread of mine:

http://pinoydvd.com/content/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=28&expv=0&?topic=36296.0

Wala kasi weighing scale sa bahay e  :P Thanks!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 19, 2005 at 08:39 AM
Can anyone point me to a website showing the weights of the Diamond 9 speakers, particularly the 9.SR? I have a ceiling mounting problem kasi, as you may read in this thread of mine:

http://pinoydvd.com/content/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=28&expv=0&?topic=36296.0

Wala kasi weighing scale sa bahay e  :P Thanks!  ;D

the manual doesn't say anything about wt. the 9.1 is about 5 kgs. the sr, i believe should be less.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bonzai on Apr 20, 2005 at 12:38 AM
bonzai, sir hans adriane is right, so long as you set the levels properly, wala namang sapawarang mangyayari. All I'm saying is that it is Wharfedale themselves who recommend the 9.CS to match the 9.4, so may-I-sunod lang ako. If you've got the extra P1,800, then by all means go for the 9.CM.  ;)

I've been asking around for the D9.DFS, pero it seems that hindi daw kumuha yung Philippine dealer nito. I'm using two pairs of D9.SR in my 7.1 setup, and it sounds fine to me. ;D

salamat mga bro...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: deo on Apr 20, 2005 at 08:43 AM
mga bro na may SW150, pano mo ma nnotice if your subwoofer went thru the "break-in" period?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 20, 2005 at 09:04 AM
wharfedale suggests 50 hours of continuous use at moderate volume to run in their speakers. this may also be true for their subs. many people believe that break-in improves the sound but there are also who don't. i would like to think that the differences in views may been due to the differences in the materials their speakers use. kevlar seem to really benefit from break-in.

having said that, speakers being mechanical, will benefit from break-in. whether we hear it or not.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: deo on Apr 20, 2005 at 09:24 AM
hmmm...ok...para kasing lumambot ung base ko last night. i had to make some adjustments.parang di maganda ung break in...may break in din ba ang mga av receivers?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 20, 2005 at 09:35 AM
panong lumambot? kulang sa slam? i'm not sure about break-in in electronics. if there's much debate about speaker break-in, what more pa sa electronics ;D but i do know that electronics will perform better after warm up.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: deo on Apr 20, 2005 at 12:39 PM
panong lumambot? kulang sa slam? i'm not sure about break-in in electronics. if there's much debate about speaker break-in, what more pa sa electronics ;D but i do know that electronics will perform better after warm up.

parang unan..hehehe..diko ma descirbe eh. parang ang layo nung tunog, parang malalim. parang ung base ng drum set...di naman sya ganun dati..dati pag nanuod ako ng dvd tapos papakita ung 20th century fox  sa una, para brom bom instead of broom boom.,gets? hehehehe!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Apr 20, 2005 at 01:41 PM
be patient bro dheng.... you will not notice any improvement unless it's not yet broken in.... parang wine din yan habang tumatagal lalong sumasarap hehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: deo on Apr 20, 2005 at 02:05 PM
be patient bro dheng.... you will not notice any improvement unless it's not yet broken in.... parang wine din yan habang tumatagal lalong sumasarap hehehe

kala ko wait until its broken. hehehehe!!! nag taka lang ako kasi nag iba ang sounds kagabi..napuyat tuloy ako..buset! test ko ulit later. thanks for your feeback!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 20, 2005 at 10:03 PM
kala ko wait until its broken. hehehehe!!! nag taka lang ako kasi nag iba ang sounds kagabi..napuyat tuloy ako..buset! test ko ulit later. thanks for your feeback!


Baka meron ka nagalaw sa crossover ng avr mo??  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: deo on Apr 21, 2005 at 06:33 AM

Baka meron ka nagalaw sa crossover ng avr mo??  ;D

sinet to default ko na ung avr ko, medyo nag improve, pero pansin ko medyo malambot pa rin saka parang may echo ung base nya. :-\
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 21, 2005 at 07:20 AM
sinet to default ko na ung avr ko, medyo nag improve, pero pansin ko medyo malambot pa rin saka parang may echo ung base nya. :-\

san ba sya nakalagay? sa corner?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: deo on Apr 21, 2005 at 08:53 AM
naka patong ung front speaker ko sa sub. its been that way for a month. nasa right side ung sub if u'r facing the avr...hmm...
pag mas mataas ung crossover frequency mas matigas ung tunog nya...pag mas mas mababa (35hz) parang nag e-echo na..ganun ba un dapat? ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 21, 2005 at 08:58 AM
35 Hz yung crossover mo? san yan sa receiver o sa sub? try setting 80 Hz sa receiver and as high as you can go sa sub.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: deo on Apr 21, 2005 at 09:50 AM
35 Hz yung crossover mo? san yan sa receiver o sa sub? try setting 80 Hz sa receiver and as high as you can go sa sub.

sa sub....ang frequency settings lang na nababago ko sa avr is ung LPF/HPF. Try ko i-set to 80hz...Thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Apr 21, 2005 at 06:24 PM
9.6 review

http://www.theabsolutesound.com/newsletter/153/wharfedale.html
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 21, 2005 at 10:45 PM
sa sub....ang frequency settings lang na nababago ko sa avr is ung LPF/HPF. Try ko i-set to 80hz...Thanks

Dheng,

Try to set your SUB's lever higher than your AVR crossover.. kasi yun AVR mo na magregulate nun LFE na papasok sa sub mo.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 22, 2005 at 01:00 PM
i saw the 9.6. ang laki! mas mabigat pa yata sa akin ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on Apr 22, 2005 at 06:15 PM
i saw the 9.6. ang laki! mas mabigat pa yata sa akin ;D

Oo nga. Mukha nga puny yung 9.4 ko kumpara dun. Kakainggit yung mga may pambili nun.   ^-^
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: triplex on Apr 22, 2005 at 10:45 PM
anybody upgrading their diamond 8s to 9s, txt me 09209611047.  sana this weekend.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: triplex on Apr 23, 2005 at 07:10 PM
mga bros, need you opinions, plan to use 9.cs and 9.1 for my centr and fronts, have a spare 8.1 and will use it for my surrounds.  my yammy 540 will drive the system.  do the 8s and the 9s have the same timber? or will it not matter since my fronts are all 9 series?  anyways pang likod lang naman yung 8.1. 

also, will the perfect view brackets (worth around 1.4k a pair ata yun at ace) handle the weight of the 8.1 for my surrounds? if di kaya, do you guys have any suggestions to hang my 8.1s.  Used to have wh2 surrounds kc so madali lang ibitin sa pader.  also have no space for stands at the back.

dapat pala di nalang nagawa pc ko . .. nakapaglog in muli yan tuloy I found out about these diamond 9s from pdvd . . . inatake tuloy ulit ng SARS!!! ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Apr 25, 2005 at 10:49 AM
Ok na yang binabalak mong setup bro... you need a sub to support the LF of your front speakers. As for the bracket, it depends on your preference... pwede rin speaker stand lagay mo.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: triplex on Apr 25, 2005 at 10:15 PM
thanks sir, i plan to get the us audio 8s for my LF, pwede na siguro to for my 40 sq.m. room.  can twait to get my 9s this week.  ;D

also saw perfect view brackets last weekend sa ace, mga 1.6k 1 pair though am not sure kung kaya nito yung 8.1s, capacity nya is around 10 kgs.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Apr 26, 2005 at 05:52 AM
thanks sir, i plan to get the us audio 8s for my LF, pwede na siguro to for my 40 sq.m. room.  can twait to get my 9s this week.  ;D

also saw perfect view brackets last weekend sa ace, mga 1.6k 1 pair though am not sure kung kaya nito yung 8.1s, capacity nya is around 10 kgs.

40 sqm? bro baka mabitin ka sa us audio 8s for ur LF  >:(, pagisipan mo din mabuti bro, mahirap magsisi sa huli, ikaw din! ???
hehehe  ;) :D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on Apr 26, 2005 at 11:38 AM
Hi, I just got my Diamond 9 CS from "The Home Theater."  Walang pagsisisi... good set-up with 9.2 and the CS.  Good timbre match!

Hey, if you are on a low budget, maybe you'd like to try the "L-Type" Frames bookshelf.  It's only 40 pesos for a pair.  You can fix one frame to the roof (if your roof is reachable), and do a nut-and-bolt thing with the other L-type.  After, just tie-up your bookshelf speakers to serve as your surrounds.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 26, 2005 at 12:04 PM
Hi, I just got my Diamond 9 CS from "The Home Theater."  Walang pagsisisi... good set-up with 9.2 and the CS.  Good timbre match!

Hey, if you are on a low budget, maybe you'd like to try the "L-Type" Frames bookshelf.  It's only 40 pesos for a pair.  You can fix one frame to the roof (if your roof is reachable), and do a nut-and-bolt thing with the other L-type.  After, just tie-up your bookshelf speakers to serve as your surrounds.  :)

congrats itgbkj. what amp are you using? post k naman ng review ng system mo :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Apr 26, 2005 at 12:12 PM
itgbkj, congtas bro... ;) complete na ba HT set up mo?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on Apr 26, 2005 at 12:38 PM
Sir vhongbiker, hindi pa complete na kagustuhan ko.  Planning/Saving-up to buy a pair of Diamond 9 SRs.  I originally eyed WH-2 pero as per advise ng shop owner (Sonny of The Home Theater) and other members of PinoyDVD, SRs na lang talaga.

Right now, naka salpak yung Wharfedale ko na Valdus 100 (4 years old at kinalas at inayos na sa Raon).  That's why I'm settled with Wharfedale for its performance and VALUE FOR MONEY.

Yung ginawa ko na Center Rear ay yung Dai-ichi ko na Center.  Kaso, hindi ko pa mapapagana ng maayos yung 6.1  puro 5.1 lang.

I'm selling nga my old set-up eh.  Wharfedale Valdus 100 (inayos na sa raon), Kenwood na FS-100 ata, at yung Dai-ichi center, with a pioneer receiver na pro-logic lang.

How about you, what's your set-up?  Teka, baka maiingit lang ako.  hahahaha... :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bonzai on Apr 26, 2005 at 03:06 PM
hi guys, just want to here any feedback from you kung sinong mas swabe at powerfull sub US.Audio or Warfedale sw150?  ??? ???

my set-up, 9.4, 9cm, wh2
avr- yamaha 440
room is 20 sqm.


pls advice.  tenx
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Apr 27, 2005 at 05:59 AM
Sir vhongbiker, hindi pa complete na kagustuhan ko.  Planning/Saving-up to buy a pair of Diamond 9 SRs.  I originally eyed WH-2 pero as per advise ng shop owner (Sonny of The Home Theater) and other members of PinoyDVD, SRs na lang talaga.

Right now, naka salpak yung Wharfedale ko na Valdus 100 (4 years old at kinalas at inayos na sa Raon).  That's why I'm settled with Wharfedale for its performance and VALUE FOR MONEY.

Yung ginawa ko na Center Rear ay yung Dai-ichi ko na Center.  Kaso, hindi ko pa mapapagana ng maayos yung 6.1  puro 5.1 lang.

I'm selling nga my old set-up eh.  Wharfedale Valdus 100 (inayos na sa raon), Kenwood na FS-100 ata, at yung Dai-ichi center, with a pioneer receiver na pro-logic lang.

How about you, what's your set-up?  Teka, baka maiingit lang ako.  hahahaha... :)


naka 6.1 bro, all diamond 9.  :D
gudlak sa pag uupgrade mo, post mo nalang review mo sa mga bago mong toys... ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 27, 2005 at 09:45 AM
hi guys, just want to here any feedback from you kung sinong mas swabe at powerfull sub US.Audio or Warfedale sw150?  ??? ???

my set-up, 9.4, 9cm, wh2
avr- yamaha 440
room is 20 sqm.


pls advice.  tenx

sw150 para all wharfs ;D i don't know about the us audio, but the sw150 is 150 watts w/ and is a 10-incher.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Apr 27, 2005 at 10:56 AM
sw150 para all wharfs ;D i don't know about the us audio, but the sw150 is 150 watts w/ and is a 10-incher.

yes bro agree ako kay bumblebee, mas maganda kung all warfes, para mas maganda ang blending ng sounds, :D
para sa akin lang ha, nasa sa iyo parin ang desisyon ;)
sa akin warfe plus dq12, ok na olryt....
gudlak bro....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jerq on Apr 27, 2005 at 03:03 PM
got myself an all wharfs setup and  im using us audio subs. 12 inch at 300w.
ok nman sya. kailangan lng break in. kung sa gapang lng ng bass eh panalo to.
 
kung medyo tipid ka go for us audio. pero suggestion lng yan.

kaw prin ang magdecide nyan... kung san ka masaya at makontento

goodluck  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on Apr 27, 2005 at 05:57 PM
Is there clarity in subs?  :)

Anyway, my set-up at home is wharfes and Dai-ichi for the sub.  At first, medyo tagilid ang performance ng bass, pero break-in nga ang kailangan.  Cheaper at tama lang ang buga.

One could not have too much LFEs, right?  Otherwise, well, baka tunog jeepney ang labas nyan... puro bass at walang clarity.  :)

Anyway, test it out.  I suggest go to Mega, meron ata dun supplier ng Wharfes at punta ka sa Dai-ichi showroom at magpademo ka sa sub.  One stop center yun.

Goodluck at balitaan mo kami!  At kami ay nasisiyahan pag may bagong nabili kayo dito.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: hunnyko on Apr 27, 2005 at 06:15 PM
I have a wharf SW150 at home.  I bought it last December.  But currently when
I'm watching some movies there is an odd sound coming from the sub "grrrrrrr" when having some low frequencies.  Crossover setting is at 80Hz.  Volume level is set at moderate but I am still hearing the "GRRRRR"
thing.  Is my sub broken, because I didn't experience this on my first few weeks....Can anyone help me....thanks..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: mojako on Apr 27, 2005 at 10:11 PM
na compare nyo na ba yung 8.1 na tweaked nila anthony vs. 9.1 na stock?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bonzai on Apr 28, 2005 at 12:46 AM
got myself an all wharfs setup and  im using us audio subs. 12 inch at 300w.
ok nman sya. kailangan lng break in. kung sa gapang lng ng bass eh panalo to.
 
kung medyo tipid ka go for us audio. pero suggestion lng yan.

kaw prin ang magdecide nyan... kung san ka masaya at makontento

goodluck  :)


i agree with you jerq, iba talaga ang gapang ng bass ng us audio... :o

akala ko dahil subwoofer of the year ang sw150 eh kaya nya ng ilampaso ang us audio kasi locally made lang, pero ng ma-audition ko sa site and sound shangrila today eh nabaligtad ang istorya... :o :o

grabe di ko akalaing kakainin ng us audio ang wharfe sw150..... :o :o :o

sa gapang at gapang lang ng bass at laki ng tunog talagang tinalo ng us audio ang sw150... gustong gusto ko ng bumili sw150  pero sa ipinapakitang performance ng us audio eh nagulo ang isip ko...

yung sw150 ramdam mo kung saan nanggagaling ang bass, pero yung us audio talagang ikinakalat nya ang bass at ganda ng gapang kaya di mo pansin kung subwoofer ang nagbabato ng bass kasi aakalain mong galing ng front,center or rear mo ang bass....

pero still pinag-iisipan ko pa ring mabuti para di naman ako magkamali ng pagbili...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on Apr 28, 2005 at 10:13 AM
If you want to save about P500 peso or more, try mo to find US Audio in raon.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: masterjericho on Apr 28, 2005 at 10:19 AM
been on spectra yesterday canvassing for a sub

napagcompare ko yung sw150 saka dq12

para sakin, parang mas ok dq12 pero siempre

kaiba naman yung 10" sa 12" kaya mahirap

magdecide
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 28, 2005 at 10:27 AM
been on spectra yesterday canvassing for a sub

napagcompare ko yung sw150 saka dq12

para sakin, parang mas ok dq12 pero siempre

kaiba naman yung 10" sa 12" kaya mahirap

magdecide

are you into multichannel music? kung nde, get the badder, phatter sub for HT. stereo, for me, is better in 2.0 than in 2.1 (assuming nde sub-sat).
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: masterjericho on Apr 28, 2005 at 10:48 AM
well.. im more into HT kaya cguro mas na incline ako sa dq12

anyways, i have to check out others also (us audio, dtx & dq)

versus sw150
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: migs26 on Apr 28, 2005 at 12:48 PM
mga bro,

planning to buy my 1st wharf eh...budget is 10k..but can stretch it a bit kung OK..

what is the best buy ba?
I've auditioned an 8.4 eh OK naman para sa akin..
pero di ko pa na try mag pa audition ng 9s eh...ano ba katapat ng 8.4 sa 9 series in term of price and quality?


thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 28, 2005 at 12:56 PM
mga bro,

planning to buy my 1st wharf eh...budget is 10k..but can stretch it a bit kung OK..

what is the best buy ba?
I've auditioned an 8.4 eh OK naman para sa akin..
pero di ko pa na try mag pa audition ng 9s eh...ano ba katapat ng 8.4 sa 9 series in term of price and quality?


thanks!

pricewise, 9.4 (9.7k ata) kaso 2-way it o like the 8.3. yung 9.5 (12.5k ata) 2 1/2-way just like the 8.4.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on Apr 28, 2005 at 12:58 PM
Hi Migs26.

Try downloading the Wharfedale brochures - the softcopy documentation is exactly the same one as those you'll get when you buy the item.  I'm not an expert on this, but from my understanding, Wharfes 9 have a curved design to eliminate whatever undesirable sounds a regular box type speaker.  Then, they've improved the "insides" of the D9 - metal structure that holds the driver, etc.  Finally, the kevlar that the D8s used to have had been changed from Yellow to Black.

My opinion, the company had indeed improved their design with D9s.  So, just spend a bit more and you'll get what's their latest - and from the reviews of D9s here in PinoyDVD (56 pages all in all and counting), Wharfe Speakers are value-for-money.  :)

Goodluck and balitaan mo kami sa new toys mo.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: triplex on May 02, 2005 at 11:33 PM
need your opinions bros, am  now using my 8.1s as surrounds, recetly got 9.cs and 9.1s for my fronts.  Am thinking of getting the 9.sr to replace the 8.1s para full 9s ang speakers ko.  Do you think mas ok or shall I retain it?

Also am still in the market looking for the best priced sub to complement my existing set-up.  Considering the DQ12s and the US Audio 512 pero parang overkill for my puny 9.1s kc. Parang  a 10 incher will do for my room.

Correction on my earlier post, my room is only less than 15 sq.m. lang pala.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on May 03, 2005 at 07:37 AM
need your opinions bros, am  now using my 8.1s as surrounds, recetly got 9.cs and 9.1s for my fronts.  Am thinking of getting the 9.sr to replace the 8.1s para full 9s ang speakers ko.  Do you think mas ok or shall I retain it?

Also am still in the market looking for the best priced sub to complement my existing set-up.  Considering the DQ12s and the US Audio 512 pero parang overkill for my puny 9.1s kc. Parang  a 10 incher will do for my room.

Correction on my earlier post, my room is only less than 15 sq.m. lang pala.

8.1 na lang. or you could sell it to fund another 9.1 :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on May 03, 2005 at 04:15 AM
need your opinions bros, am  now using my 8.1s as surrounds, recetly got 9.cs and 9.1s for my fronts.  Am thinking of getting the 9.sr to replace the 8.1s para full 9s ang speakers ko.  Do you think mas ok or shall I retain it?

Also am still in the market looking for the best priced sub to complement my existing set-up.  Considering the DQ12s and the US Audio 512 pero parang overkill for my puny 9.1s kc. Parang  a 10 incher will do for my room.

Correction on my earlier post, my room is only less than 15 sq.m. lang pala.

hayyyyy........... hirap ba magdecide bro? ???
ganyan talaga yan! walang katapusan sa pag iisip, dahil sunod nyan after a days a week month or a year paga UPGRADE naman ang gagawin mo, dahil may BAGO na naman at mas maganda kaysa sa SET UP MO, hehehehe..... PERO ENJOY DI BA?  ;)
GUD LAK NALANG BRO....post mo nalang review and comments mo sa mga bago mong toys  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on May 03, 2005 at 04:30 AM
8.1 na lang. or you could sell it to fund another 9.1 :)

I agree. Limited range lang ang 9.SR. Although it wouldn't matter much unless you listen to 5/7 channel stereo. Unless you really like the aesthetics of an all-diamond 9 setup, lamang ng katiting ang 8.1 for surrounds.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: triplex on May 04, 2005 at 09:57 PM
nalalakihan ks ako sa 8.1s for my surrounds, i used to have my wh2 for my surrounds kaya medyo naninibago lang.  saw the 9.srs sa brochure and i think their a bit smaller than the my 8.1s.  malabo na din cguro for a 9.1 surrounds since no space sa likod. . . planning to get wall mounts for the 8.1s   .. . performance wise if the 8.1s have little difference with the 9.sr, baka nga mag all d9s nalang ako. 

tama k vhongbiker, mahirap talaga pag tinamaan ka nag sakit uli. . . parang ayoko nang mag log uli, daming options . . . >:D

ano kaya unahin ko change my 8.1s to 9.sr or get a sub ? . . .if i opt to get the sub firt, anong klase naman?  ang hirap  . . . ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on May 04, 2005 at 10:10 PM
nalalakihan ks ako sa 8.1s for my surrounds, i used to have my wh2 for my surrounds kaya medyo naninibago lang.  saw the 9.srs sa brochure and i think their a bit smaller than the my 8.1s.  malabo na din cguro for a 9.1 surrounds since no space sa likod. . . planning to get wall mounts for the 8.1s   .. . performance wise if the 8.1s have little difference with the 9.sr, baka nga mag all d9s nalang ako. 

tama k vhongbiker, mahirap talaga pag tinamaan ka nag sakit uli. . . parang ayoko nang mag log uli, daming options . . . >:D

ano kaya unahin ko change my 8.1s to 9.sr or get a sub ? . . .if i opt to get the sub firt, anong klase naman?  ang hirap  . . . ;D ;D

sub na lang. sw150 para all d9's :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on May 05, 2005 at 11:06 AM
nalalakihan ks ako sa 8.1s for my surrounds, i used to have my wh2 for my surrounds kaya medyo naninibago lang.  saw the 9.srs sa brochure and i think their a bit smaller than the my 8.1s.  malabo na din cguro for a 9.1 surrounds since no space sa likod. . . planning to get wall mounts for the 8.1s   .. . performance wise if the 8.1s have little difference with the 9.sr, baka nga mag all d9s nalang ako. 

tama k vhongbiker, mahirap talaga pag tinamaan ka nag sakit uli. . . parang ayoko nang mag log uli, daming options . . . >:D

ano kaya unahin ko change my 8.1s to 9.sr or get a sub ? . . .if i opt to get the sub firt, anong klase naman?  ang hirap  . . . ;D ;D

Sub! Sub! Sub! ;D ;D ;D SW150 para tipid at matching, then compensate with bass shakers hehe  :P

Madali isabit yung 9.sr kasi medyo manipis.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: boomjam on May 05, 2005 at 02:47 PM
I've been hearing about these bass shakers. Ano ba ginagawa niyan?... Does it really improve the bass of your system?  Interested ako kasi parang medyo bitin yung bass ng HT system ko.  Where can you buy them?....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: keema on May 05, 2005 at 03:31 PM
Sub! Sub! Sub! ;D ;D ;D SW150 para tipid at matching, then compensate with bass shakers hehe  :P

Madali isabit yung 9.sr kasi medyo manipis.

oo nga sir, ano yung bass shaker?  san nilalagay to? tyaka anong ginagawa pag nalagay mo na?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on May 05, 2005 at 03:33 PM
oo nga sir, ano yung bass shaker? san nilalagay to? tyaka anong ginagawa pag nalagay mo na?


try this link.

http://pinoydvd.com/content/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=28&expv=0&?topic=1787.0
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on May 05, 2005 at 06:28 PM
I've been hearing about these bass shakers. Ano ba ginagawa niyan?... Does it really improve the bass of your system?  Interested ako kasi parang medyo bitin yung bass ng HT system ko.  Where can you buy them?....

oo nga sir, ano yung bass shaker? san nilalagay to? tyaka anong ginagawa pag nalagay mo na?

If you haven't tried the link posted by sir bumblebee yet, bass shakers, technically called tactile transducers, add a another dimension to your HT experience that can be felt ("tactile"). Instead of emitting sounds in the LFE frequency range, they simply vibrate it out. Take that vibrating thing and attach it to your HT couch... what do you get? A couch vibrating along with the LFE! (cue Marvin Gaye's "Let's Get It On")

If you've got a sub worth Pxxx,xxx, you may not need them anymore, but if you're budget is only enough for our bang-for-the-buck Wharfes, bass shakers may be a good, cheap enhancement (at P945 per pair from Dai-ichi Megamall, plus the cost of any amp other than your HT amp/reciever).  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Jairus on May 06, 2005 at 02:12 PM
Saw and heard the SW150 at Park Square, ang liit pala nito!

Paired with the B&W600S3, it was able to integrate well in music.  Swabe siya but a little too weak for my taste -- baka hindi pa lang broken in and siguro din bec. of the set-up in the store.

Just sharing  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on May 07, 2005 at 10:48 AM
9.1, 9cs, sw150, 9.5, 9.6 MAPLE available already
on stock available 9.1 9cs sw150
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: marckd1 on May 09, 2005 at 02:39 PM
spectraav, how much ang 9.5 and 9cs? Thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Jairus on May 09, 2005 at 05:20 PM
spectraav,

may discount pa ba sw150 for pdvd members ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on May 10, 2005 at 08:59 AM
spectraav, how much ang 9.5 and 9cs? Thanks

here's the prices from the av stores thread.

9.1-5500
9.2-7000
9.3-8200
9.4-9700
9.5-12500
9C-4500
9S-3800
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Maestro on May 10, 2005 at 03:18 PM
hi mga sir... being a newbie...kakaenganyo kayo.

I have a Marantz SR4500 (7.1) and naghahanap pa lang ng speakers... bagay ba ang Wharfe dito???  I am thinking of getting the ff:
- Diamond 9.3
- Diamond 9CS
- Diamond 9SR (2 pairs???)
- Subs: Velo VX-10 (from my brother)

What you think? meron na bang nakaganito?  Suggestions are very much welcome.

Appreciate the help!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on May 13, 2005 at 09:25 AM
Hi, I am a Diamond 9 owner myself.  Yes, it's good - the best quality for that price range.  :) I think your 4500 can drive the speakers just well - so, when you have your toys already - complete with earth shaking sounds, let us know!

Good luck.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on May 14, 2005 at 10:18 PM
Guys,

Ang laki pala ng 9.6 compare sa 9.4...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/P1020105.jpg)

took this at Spectra... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on May 15, 2005 at 09:26 AM
Hi guys, based on your experience, how would you compare 9.1 with 8.1? Considering that 8.1 had a lot of citations. Is 9.1 an upgrade of 8.1?
Is it just the looks or also the sound quality. Does it have the tonal quality that gave the 8.1 its numerous commendations. Thanks....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: obey on May 15, 2005 at 06:51 PM
Guys,

Ang laki pala ng 9.6 compare sa 9.4...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/P1020105.jpg)

took this at Spectra... ;D ;D

OT lang mga sir.  Ano yung speaker na katabi ng 9.6?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Audioboy on May 15, 2005 at 07:24 PM
obey,

AR ata yun. costs hundreds of thousands. matagal na yan sa Spectra pero ni minsan, di ko pa narinig.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: migs26 on May 16, 2005 at 01:27 PM
meron binbenta sa akin ung friend ko na WH2...medyo bargain kaya gusto ko kunin... match ba sya sa 9.5 ko? ???
ang worry ko eh baka masapawan ng 9.5 yung mga maliliit na wh2 eh.. :-\
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jerq on May 16, 2005 at 01:35 PM
B
meron binbenta sa akin ung friend ko na WH2...medyo bargain kaya gusto ko kunin... match ba sya sa 9.5 ko? ???
ang worry ko eh baka masapawan ng 9.5 yung mga maliliit na wh2 eh.. :-\

bro,

un bang tinutukoy mo eh wh2 center??? kung center lng, go for 9cs which im using in my setup or 9cm.  i used wh2 center for my rear center. kung surround still go for 9sr.

but that all depends on ur hearing.. kaw din magdecide nyn..... audition mo muna.... then decide....


cheers
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: migs26 on May 16, 2005 at 03:11 PM
B
bro,

un bang tinutukoy mo eh wh2 center??? kung center lng, go for 9cs which im using in my setup or 9cm.  i used wh2 center for my rear center. kung surround still go for 9sr.

but that all depends on ur hearing.. kaw din magdecide nyn..... audition mo muna.... then decide....


cheers

yup, im referring to the wh2 center na masasapawan ng 9.5....but i'm buying both wh2 center & surround..enjoy ko na lang muna yung wh2 anyway mura lang naman score ko eh..pag sinumpong upgrade na lang uli.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: p.dividdy2 on May 16, 2005 at 03:44 PM
you change speaker levels naman sa receiver mo.. but i find the wh2 center ngongo and a bit high-mid sounding..kaya ang daming nag-bebenta nito at a low price..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on May 16, 2005 at 05:52 PM
Hi guys, based on your experience, how would you compare 9.1 with 8.1? Considering that 8.1 had a lot of citations. Is 9.1 an upgrade of 8.1?
Is it just the looks or also the sound quality. Does it have the tonal quality that gave the 8.1 its numerous commendations. Thanks....

I'll for the new model 9.1 sound and looks.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on May 16, 2005 at 06:02 PM
oist but nandito ka ha............ala ka don sa kabila? oks na b pc mo?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on May 16, 2005 at 06:24 PM
Ikaw din?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on May 16, 2005 at 08:01 PM
kayo pareho din ano gawa nyo hehehhehee


Senor LUstwander,

Salamat at naayos din ni masta rony..  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on May 16, 2005 at 08:20 PM
I would rather save up for a diamond cs than "settle" for the wh2 for the center. you save money and hassle of having to sell it. just set ure receiver to no center for now and let the 9.5s produce front and center channels.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ADM202E on May 17, 2005 at 06:13 PM
Medyo matagal na rin ako di nakakpost dito, mga bro magkano naba ngaun anf Diamond 9 series? Pwede ba pakilist? Salamat in advance!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: d00dZ on May 18, 2005 at 09:48 AM
Medyo matagal na rin ako di nakakpost dito, mga bro magkano naba ngaun anf Diamond 9 series? Pwede ba pakilist? Salamat in advance!!!

here's the prices from the av stores thread.

9.1-5500
9.2-7000
9.3-8200
9.4-9700
9.5-12500
9C-4500
9S-3800
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on May 18, 2005 at 09:53 AM
naku wrong grammar ako :-[ that should be "here are" instead of "here's" ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on May 18, 2005 at 08:22 PM
naku wrong grammar ako :-[ that should be "here are" instead of "here's" ;D

OKs lang yan.. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: obey on May 19, 2005 at 10:29 AM
obey,

AR ata yun. costs hundreds of thousands. matagal na yan sa Spectra pero ni minsan, di ko pa narinig.


Audioboy,

Kaya pala mukhang maganda :D  Parang ginto pala ang presyo.  Thanks audioboy!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: eagumban on May 19, 2005 at 11:52 AM
Mga bros....

Inquire lang kung magkano ang diamond 9 DFS na surround speaker.  Dinig ko nandito na para ma complete na ang setup ;D  parang wala sa list ng prices na napost. >:D >:D >:D
Sars lumayo ka >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bachwitz on May 19, 2005 at 03:21 PM
you change speaker levels naman sa receiver mo.. but i find the wh2 center ngongo and a bit high-mid sounding..kaya ang daming nag-bebenta nito at a low price..


aray ko.......     :-[
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on May 19, 2005 at 03:28 PM

aray ko.......     :-[

ang importante, happy ka :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on May 19, 2005 at 05:19 PM
Mga bros....

Inquire lang kung magkano ang diamond 9 DFS na surround speaker.  Dinig ko nandito na para ma complete na ang setup ;D  parang wala sa list ng prices na napost. >:D >:D >:D
Sars lumayo ka >:D >:D >:D

Hi, good choice to get a Diamond 9 DFS...  I will not settle for a WH2.  I'm still saving-up for a DFS.  Anyway, how much is it?  It's price range is 4300+.  Good luck and let us know when your set is complete.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bachwitz on May 19, 2005 at 05:31 PM
ang importante, happy ka :)

Yes, im contented (for now  ;)). I am just a newbie at this hobby and I guess my ears are not that sensitive yet.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on May 19, 2005 at 09:54 PM
mga sirs, ano po ba yung available colors ng 9 series dito sa Philippine market.

By the way what is the shade of maple, kasi nag search ako sa website ng wharfedale wala naman maple na color naka lagay dun.  Ang nandun lang ay black ash, rosewood, cherry, silver.

thanks

so far, i know there's rosewood, maple and black. the maple looks like this.

(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/images/ranges/detail_3.jpg)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on May 19, 2005 at 10:03 PM
here's the prices from the av stores thread.

9.1-5500
9.2-7000
9.3-8200
9.4-9700
9.5-12500
9C-4500
9S-3800

Mga sirs, ano po ba yung available colors ng 9 series dito sa Philippine market.

By the way is there a maple color for 9 series, kasi nag search ako sa website ng wharfedale wala naman maple na color naka lagay dun.  Ang nandun lang ay black ash, rosewood, beech, cherry, & silver.  Baka rosewood yun nakita instead of maple ?

thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ADM202E on May 20, 2005 at 09:07 AM


thanks mga bro, iniisip ko kasi maglagay ng mini HT sa bedroom ko. Any advice on diamond 9 series + avr combo? DI nako kasi updated.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on May 20, 2005 at 10:13 AM
thanks mga bro, iniisip ko kasi maglagay ng mini HT sa bedroom ko. Any advice on diamond 9 series + avr combo? DI nako kasi updated.

based on the posts here, receivers from yamaha, hk and marantz are the current "hot" commodities for the diamond 9s.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: zakkaz on May 20, 2005 at 10:57 AM
so far, i know there's rosewood, maple and black. the maple looks like this.

(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/images/ranges/detail_3.jpg)
there's also cherry on display at spectra
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: migs26 on May 20, 2005 at 01:21 PM
based on the posts here, receivers from yamaha, hk and marantz are the current "hot" commodities for the diamond 9s.


sa mga naka yamaha - wharf 9.5 combi users...

didn't you find the combination a bit on the bright side????
para kasing medyo bright para sa akin eh....

how would you describe yung setup nyo?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on May 20, 2005 at 03:48 PM
audioenz reviews the 9.6 ;)

http://audioenz.co.nz/2005/wharfedale_diamond9-6.shtml
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on May 22, 2005 at 10:06 PM
Mga bro, anong store ba authorized dealer ng Wharfedale dito sa atin. Yung prices na naka post dito sa previous thread, san bang av store yun? At saka meron ba talagang available na Rosewood color dito kung sakali o-order ako.  Dito sa province namin may supplier ng Wharf at dun pa sya sa metro manila kumukuha. Nag-order ako ng center speaker 9.1cs. Gusto ko sana rosewood color pero sabi nga kinukunan nya dun sa manila black lang at saka cherry ang available. So tanong ko lang kung meron ba talagang available color na rosewood. Thanks for any info....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: DVD-KiD! on May 23, 2005 at 01:10 AM
Mga bro, anong store ba authorized dealer ng Wharfedale dito sa atin. Yung prices na naka post dito sa previous thread, san bang av store yun? At saka meron ba talagang available na Rosewood color dito kung sakali o-order ako.  Dito sa province namin may supplier ng Wharf at dun pa sya sa metro manila kumukuha. Nag-order ako ng center speaker 9.1cs. Gusto ko sana rosewood color pero sabi nga kinukunan nya dun sa manila black lang at saka cherry ang available. So tanong ko lang kung meron ba talagang available color na rosewood. Thanks for any info....

Bro, try to contact this number nalang (posted below) at ang pagkakaalam ko mayroon silang rosewood.

SIGHTS & SOUNDS AUDIO VIDEO
4th Level, Shangri-La Plaza Mall

638-3724
634-1789
634-1790
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: eagumban on May 23, 2005 at 09:13 AM
Hi, good choice to get a Diamond 9 DFS...  I will not settle for a WH2.  I'm still saving-up for a DFS.  Anyway, how much is it?  It's price range is 4300+.  Good luck and let us know when your set is complete.

Just inquired from Cebu, their price is 6K.  Anybody knows the price at Manila so that I can negotiate for a lower price. 
My setup is 7.1 (front: wharf 9.5, center: 9cs, sub: velodyne cht10, amp: yamaha 1500) but I'm lacking the side and back surround of wharfs.  I'm currently using my old speakers as surrounds. I'll post my comments when its complete. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: zakkaz on May 23, 2005 at 09:30 AM
Mga bro, anong store ba authorized dealer ng Wharfedale dito sa atin. Yung prices na naka post dito sa previous thread, san bang av store yun? At saka meron ba talagang available na Rosewood color dito kung sakali o-order ako.  Dito sa province namin may supplier ng Wharf at dun pa sya sa metro manila kumukuha. Nag-order ako ng center speaker 9.1cs. Gusto ko sana rosewood color pero sabi nga kinukunan nya dun sa manila black lang at saka cherry ang available. So tanong ko lang kung meron ba talagang available color na rosewood. Thanks for any info....
spectra audio video center @ parksquare 1 they've got almost the full sets of Diamond 9 speakers
tel 818-5493
ang alam ko nagkaroon cla ng rosewood dont know baka out of stock ngayong
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on May 23, 2005 at 12:50 PM
spectra audio video center @ parksquare 1 they've got almost the full sets of Diamond 9 speakers
tel 818-5493
ang alam ko nagkaroon cla ng rosewood dont know baka out of stock ngayong

Thanks mga bro sa info...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: edboy7 on May 23, 2005 at 07:02 PM
more reviews on the 9.6 :)
http://www.theabsolutesound.com/newsletter/153/wharfedale.htmll
http://www.audioadvisor.com/store/productdetailprint.asp?sku=WHARFD9.6C
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on May 24, 2005 at 01:05 PM
I am imagining myself getting the 9.6s.  :)  I can't help but smile to myself - papasabugin ko yung bahay kung meron ako nun!  So, 9.2 na lang ako... tama na yun sa akin!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on May 24, 2005 at 01:23 PM
Just inquired from Cebu, their price is 6K.  Anybody knows the price at Manila so that I can negotiate for a lower price. 
My setup is 7.1 (front: wharf 9.5, center: 9cs, sub: velodyne cht10, amp: yamaha 1500) but I'm lacking the side and back surround of wharfs.  I'm currently using my old speakers as surrounds. I'll post my comments when its complete. ;D

Hi, I grew-up in Cebu too!  What are the shops in Cebu carrying HT stuff?  Anyway, I got mine from The HomeTheater.  It's a good place to shop.  The owner is direct to the point - no fuss.  Actually, I've been to about 8 HT shops carrying Wharfes and The HomeTheater store gave me the cheapest - kahit 200 pesos ang difference, masaya na ako nun.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on May 24, 2005 at 03:17 PM
hi
we've got the complete series of Diamond 9  speakers including the subwoofer sw150, sw250, sw300 on display @ the exhibit area of Parksquare 1. it comes in different color
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bachwitz on May 24, 2005 at 03:18 PM
hi
we've got the complete series of Diamond 9  speakers including the subwoofer sw150, sw250, sw300 on display @ the exhibit area of Parksquare 1. it comes in different color

sir how much po sila?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on May 25, 2005 at 05:54 PM
sir how much po sila?
sw150 9000
sw250 20000
sw350 27500
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on May 25, 2005 at 08:52 PM
hi
we've got the complete series of Diamond 9  speakers including the subwoofer sw150, sw250, sw300 on display @ the exhibit area of Parksquare 1. it comes in different color

Uy nice up to when yun exhibit nyo sir?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on May 26, 2005 at 12:27 PM
Uy nice up to when yun exhibit nyo sir?
until end of June
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on May 29, 2005 at 09:15 PM
sir spectra,

pwede ba mag request nang tulong sayo kasi, segurado alam mo to eh.
Kasi my bro wants to buy Diamond 9 series dito at gusto nya raw e freight sa kanya. kaso lang di ko ma estimate yung cost of shipping. Dapat raw malaman ko kung ano ang DIMENSION at GROSS WEIGHT ng speakers na naka carton pa.

Can you furnish me the following information of these D9's: Diamond 9.6, Diamond 9.1, and Diamond 9.CM. 

a) DIMENSION, in mm or cm (WxDxH) of the carton/box of the speakers
b) GROSS WEIGHT, kg (the speakers plus the carton/packaging)

I believe is these information are indicated in the original packaging/carton.
 
Thanks in advance for any information you can share....
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: spectraav on May 30, 2005 at 11:04 AM
sir spectra,

pwede ba mag request nang tulong sayo kasi, segurado alam mo to eh.
Kasi my bro wants to buy Diamond 9 series dito at gusto nya raw e freight sa kanya. kaso lang di ko ma estimate yung cost of shipping. Dapat raw malaman ko kung ano ang DIMENSION at GROSS WEIGHT ng speakers na naka carton pa.

Can you furnish me the following information of these D9's: Diamond 9.6, Diamond 9.1, and Diamond 9.CM. 

a) DIMENSION, in mm or cm (WxDxH) of the carton/box of the speakers
b) GROSS WEIGHT, kg (the speakers plus the carton/packaging)

I believe is these information are indicated in the original packaging/carton.
 
Thanks in advance for any information you can share....
in cm , sorry the weight of the speakers are not indicated in the box as well as their manuals
9.6 40.5x31.5x119.5 for one speaker (1 pair of speaker 2 boxes, 1/box)
9.1 48x35x38.5
9CM 60x35x27.5
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on May 30, 2005 at 11:10 AM
from avguide's review,

9.6 - 20 kgs
9.1 - 5 kgs.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on May 30, 2005 at 12:26 PM
Salamat po sir Spectra and Bumblebee sa info ninyo.

By the way sir bumblebee ang weight ba na ibinigay, mo sa speaker lang po yon at sa bawat isa lang lang yun?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on May 30, 2005 at 12:50 PM
Salamat po sir Spectra and Bumblebee sa info ninyo.

By the way sir bumblebee ang weight ba na ibinigay, mo sa speaker lang po yon at sa bawat isa lang lang yun?

i've had the 9.1's and it seems 5 kgs each nga. so the 9.6's must be 20 kgs each rin. you really have to see those behemoths!!! if you're familiar w/ the b&w 602's, stack 3 of those. ganun kalaki :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: gearhead on Jun 03, 2005 at 05:42 PM
any comment/opinion between the diamond 9.1 and the 9.2? satellites will be partnered with a dtx 4.10 subs in a rather small room so i'm looking at the smaller 9.1.  i have read here glowing reviews about the 9.2, but find it rather large for my application. i'm just wondering if i will be missing anything if i go with the smaller 9.1, or if it will integrate nicely with the rather large 9.CS center. also, i'm of the opinion that the 5" 9.1 driver will give me better clarity and imaging. how about the diamond/yamaha rxv450 combo?

opinions please.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: zakkaz on Jun 04, 2005 at 11:37 AM
any comment/opinion between the diamond 9.1 and the 9.2? satellites will be partnered with a dtx 4.10 subs in a rather small room so i'm looking at the smaller 9.1.  i have read here glowing reviews about the 9.2, but find it rather large for my application. i'm just wondering if i will be missing anything if i go with the smaller 9.1, or if it will integrate nicely with the rather large 9.CS center. also, i'm of the opinion that the 5" 9.1 driver will give me better clarity and imaging. how about the diamond/yamaha rxv450 combo?

opinions please.  :)
if you want try go to spectra @ parksquare 1 they have exhibit ongoing and you can audition it
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 04, 2005 at 12:10 PM
any comment/opinion between the diamond 9.1 and the 9.2? satellites will be partnered with a dtx 4.10 subs in a rather small room so i'm looking at the smaller 9.1.  i have read here glowing reviews about the 9.2, but find it rather large for my application. i'm just wondering if i will be missing anything if i go with the smaller 9.1, or if it will integrate nicely with the rather large 9.CS center. also, i'm of the opinion that the 5" 9.1 driver will give me better clarity and imaging. how about the diamond/yamaha rxv450 combo?

opinions please.  :)

I don't think you miss anything if you choose 9.1 against 9.2 as long as you integrate it with your sub ( and proper adjustment ).. as for clarity and imaging no problem din its not with the driver size that dictates imaging and clarity its more on speaker design and the amp/preamp you use.

Yamaha x50 series and Diamond 9 hmmm have heard good news about this combo pero better audition it to make sure it suite your taste..

happy auditioning.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on Jun 08, 2005 at 01:12 PM
any comment/opinion between the diamond 9.1 and the 9.2? satellites will be partnered with a dtx 4.10 subs in a rather small room so i'm looking at the smaller 9.1.  i have read here glowing reviews about the 9.2, but find it rather large for my application. i'm just wondering if i will be missing anything if i go with the smaller 9.1, or if it will integrate nicely with the rather large 9.CS center. also, i'm of the opinion that the 5" 9.1 driver will give me better clarity and imaging. how about the diamond/yamaha rxv450 combo?

opinions please.  :)

Hi, I'm a happy owner of a RXV450 with 9.2  I initially wanted to get 9.1 since it was cheaper... but I was pursuaded to get 9.2 instead.  The shop owner said, 9.1's are good for surrounds, just a bit more, you can get the 9.2 which are really "bigger" than the other.  Well, there it is, I was actually surprised when I got my 9.2 - malaki nga talaga.

Now, my 9.2 are paired with the CS (not the CM - mahal kasi yung CM).  I'm saving up for the surrounds 9.2 DFS (tama ba yung model for the surrounds?).  All in all, Wharfes with rxv-450 and a dai-ichi 150Watt sub - good enough for me!

Let us know what you decided on!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: zakkaz on Jun 08, 2005 at 03:44 PM
Hi, I'm a happy owner of a RXV450 with 9.2  I initially wanted to get 9.1 since it was cheaper... but I was pursuaded to get 9.2 instead.  The shop owner said, 9.1's are good for surrounds, just a bit more, you can get the 9.2 which are really "bigger" than the other.  Well, there it is, I was actually surprised when I got my 9.2 - malaki nga talaga.

Now, my 9.2 are paired with the CS (not the CM - mahal kasi yung CM).  I'm saving up for the surrounds 9.2 DFS (tama ba yung model for the surrounds?).  All in all, Wharfes with rxv-450 and a dai-ichi 150Watt sub - good enough for me!

Let us know what you decided on!
9dfs smaller than the previous 8dfs
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on Jun 10, 2005 at 04:32 PM
Thanks for the tip on 8dfs vs 9dfs... but I'm settled with 9dfs so that I can safely say that I have Wharfes 9 as a set-up.

Hey, feedback... does an 8dfs really perform better than 9dfs?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Jun 17, 2005 at 11:00 AM
Heard a 9.6 paired with CJ EL84/RA1072 amp and all i can say was WOW!! Came out of the box which explains the stiffness of the mids but the high was open immediatly!  If i have the room for that monster, i'll gladly place it there. ANG LAKI!  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 17, 2005 at 11:31 AM
Heard a 9.6 paired with CJ EL84/RA1072 amp and all i can say was WOW!! Came out of the box which explains the stiffness of the mids but the high was open immediatly!  If i have the room for that monster, i'll gladly place it there. ANG LAKI!  ;D

Slayer,

San mo na audition yan? ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Jun 17, 2005 at 01:27 PM
Sa Watt Hifi sir... chempo may bumili at pinapabreak-in samin.  ;D Eto setup sir..

Pre - RA1072
Power - Conrad Johnson EL84
IC - XLO
SC - XLO ER14

Pano pa kung mas maganda ang IC at speaker cable.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: eagumban on Jun 17, 2005 at 02:11 PM
Sa Watt Hifi sir... chempo may bumili at pinapabreak-in samin. ;D Eto setup sir..

Pre - RA1072
Power - Conrad Johnson EL84
IC - XLO
SC - XLO ER14

Pano pa kung mas maganda ang IC at speaker cable. ;D
Slayer,

Sorry pero newbie lang ako, ano ba yang IC at SC na sinasabi mo? ??? ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Jun 17, 2005 at 02:54 PM
IC - Interconnects
SC - Speaker Cable
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Jun 17, 2005 at 08:42 PM
slayer: di ba conrad johnson na el34 yung nasa watt hifi ? me iba nang kulay na avalbl ung 9.6?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: eagumban on Jun 20, 2005 at 12:44 PM
Slayer: Thanks
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 21, 2005 at 09:49 AM
Sa Watt Hifi sir... chempo may bumili at pinapabreak-in samin.  ;D Eto setup sir..

Pre - RA1072
Power - Conrad Johnson EL84
IC - XLO
SC - XLO ER14

Pano pa kung mas maganda ang IC at speaker cable.  ;D

tagal na ko di nakapunta watt hifi.. hehehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 21, 2005 at 06:33 PM
Sa Watt Hifi sir... chempo may bumili at pinapabreak-in samin.  ;D Eto setup sir..

Pre - RA1072
Power - Conrad Johnson EL84
IC - XLO
SC - XLO ER14

Pano pa kung mas maganda ang IC at speaker cable.  ;D

Got unconfirmed report na malupet nga 9.6 hmmm dapat makapasyal sa audio shop. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Rhandz on Jun 22, 2005 at 01:14 AM
Newbie po mga kapatid!!! First time ko magsetup ng Separates. Medyo maliit lang budget kya i might get a Yamaha 450 as a AVR. Kaya ba idrive ng 450 yung 9.4 and 9.2? Napansin ko lang kasi na most of the AVR used in this forum is HK. Malayo ba difference nung dalawang AVR?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jun 22, 2005 at 08:36 AM
Newbie po mga kapatid!!! First time ko magsetup ng Separates. Medyo maliit lang budget kya i might get a Yamaha 450 as a AVR. Kaya ba idrive ng 450 yung 9.4 and 9.2? Napansin ko lang kasi na most of the AVR used in this forum is HK. Malayo ba difference nung dalawang AVR?

the hk have more power but both can drive the wharfs. have a listen to both amps and pick what's best for you.

no need for a complete setup at once. pick the best components you can afford and add on when budget permits.

you may want to visit spectra in park square 1. they carry yamaha's, hk's and wharfs.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 22, 2005 at 08:44 AM
Rhandz,

Bumblebee is right any of the AVR can drive them it just depend on your preference, best is audition this speaker with HK or Yamaha since both have different character in sound. 

happy auditioning..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: j_albert22 on Jun 22, 2005 at 11:33 AM
tagal na ko di nakapunta watt hifi.. hehehehe

wat are u waiting for tyak may bagong prospect ka na naman hehehhehehe
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Jun 22, 2005 at 01:30 PM
bakit wala pong specs ang diamond 9.3 sa wharfedale website?

9.2 tapos 9.4 na agad?

care to share the specs?  TIA
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jun 22, 2005 at 01:48 PM
bakit wala pong specs ang diamond 9.3 sa wharfedale website?

9.2 tapos 9.4 na agad?

care to share the specs?  TIA

Diamond 9.3 specs (from brochure)

- Bass: 8" B/M
- Tweeter: 25 mm TEX
- Power Handling (Programme): 30-120W
- Impedance: 6 ohm
- Sensitivity 1W @ 1m: 88dB
- A/V Shield: Yes
- Frequency Range at -6 dB: 40Hz - 24kHz
- HF limit -10 dB: 44kHz
- Crossover Frequency: 2.0kHz
- Frequency Fb: 40Hz
- Dimensions: HxBxD 45 x 24.7 x 33.1 cm
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kid on Jun 22, 2005 at 04:40 PM
bong,

meron masamang balak yan si Koya hihihihi
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Jun 22, 2005 at 05:53 PM
Papa,

Confirm yan!! Nagulat talaga kami ni Caloy... kung kasya lang sa kawarto ko yan sisikwatin ko yan!  ;D ANG LAKI!!

Got unconfirmed report na malupet nga 9.6 hmmm dapat makapasyal sa audio shop. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 22, 2005 at 08:10 PM
wat are u waiting for tyak may bagong prospect ka na naman hehehhehehe


Hehehehe di pwede SARS infected yun lugar..  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

peace caloy and elmo.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Jun 23, 2005 at 08:04 PM
sorry medyo off topic pero how the wharfedales compare to the gale speakers...


thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 23, 2005 at 09:33 PM
sorry medyo off topic pero how the wharfedales compare to the gale speakers...


thanks!

It depends ano amp gagamitin mo?

both are good speaker.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: odyopayl on Jun 24, 2005 at 09:04 AM
sorry medyo off topic pero how the wharfedales compare to the gale speakers...


thanks!
Hans is right it depends on the Amps you are going to use.......and many more factors. However, in my opinion these two brand speakers are not much for comparison.  Better audition it yourself.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: iceman90a on Jun 26, 2005 at 10:32 AM
bakit di pa nya sinuggest na 9 series na rin yung fronts? baka may luma pa silang stocks ng 8 series na inuubos...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: zakkaz on Jun 26, 2005 at 12:18 PM
Can anyone suggest a Whar speaker combo specifically for movies?  Budget is P40k including receiver.  This is what one of the shops have suggested:

Yamaha RX-V450  P14,000
Diamond 8.3 Front  P6,800
Diamond 9.cs center  P4,500
Diamond 9.sr rear  P3,800
Dynaquest 12 subwoofer  P5,900

Total cost: P35,000.

I don't much about speakers but I do get very particular when it comes to surround sounds blending in smoothly during a movie.  Any of the above I should change?  I still have P5,000 headroom.
try going to spectra @ parksquare 1 the price of diamond 8 series are lower than the one above
if you're very particular with the surround sounds, why not go for the dfs much bigger than the sr
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Jun 29, 2005 at 10:37 AM
ok...im kinda isold in getting the diamond 9 series for my speakers or at least they're on top of my list because of their affordability...but which of the following amps would you recommend to drive them considering power, features and PRICE!  i'm initially getting the 9.2 or 9.4

HK AVR 130 - P17,900
Marantz SR4500 - P17,500
Yamaha RX-V 450 - P14,300
Yamaha RX-V 550 - P14,800

thank you so much...comments and suggestion are high appreciated!!!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Jairus on Jun 29, 2005 at 11:45 AM
Any of those receivers will match well with the Diamonds. 

In terms of Power, I would be biased with the HK (since I'm using one) because of its high-current design.  Although on paper, it would seem to have lower RMS rating than the other brands, you should hear how it performs and ecide for  yourself.

Features...I think the Hk130 is just 5.1 while the others are already 6.1 or 6.1-ready (correct me if I'm wrong).  It really depends on what system you want.

Price...I guess the Yamahas are the most affordable.

Bottomline...Get the one which sounds best to you.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Jun 29, 2005 at 02:43 PM
ok..thanks...

which shops carry the wharfs and marantz?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: zakkaz on Jun 29, 2005 at 04:33 PM
ok...im kinda isold in getting the diamond 9 series for my speakers or at least they're on top of my list because of their affordability...but which of the following amps would you recommend to drive them considering power, features and PRICE!  i'm initially getting the 9.2 or 9.4

HK AVR 130 - P17,900
Marantz SR4500 - P17,500
Yamaha RX-V 450 - P14,300
Yamaha RX-V 550 - P14,800

thank you so much...comments and suggestion are high appreciated!!!
try going to spectra so that you'll be able to audition it
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Jun 29, 2005 at 05:16 PM
wala po yatang marantz ang spectra...not sure
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Jun 29, 2005 at 05:34 PM
sent u pm. bring CD and DVD during audition. its fun!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jun 29, 2005 at 08:42 PM
wala po yatang marantz ang spectra...not sure

electronics depot carries marantz and wharfedale.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Rhandz on Jul 01, 2005 at 11:58 PM
Guys from the specs, mas mataas yung sensitivity nung 9.5 sa 9.4. It means na mas madaling idrive yung 9.5 kay sa 9.4? How come?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 02, 2005 at 12:13 PM
Guys from the specs, mas mataas yung sensitivity nung 9.5 sa 9.4. It means na mas madaling idrive yung 9.5 kay sa 9.4? How come?

i think the 9.4 is easier to drive because it only has one woofer vs the 9.5's 2 (w/c also explains why the 9.5 is louder). i think you should check a speaker's impedance rather than its sensitivity if you want to determine if it is an easy load or not.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: watson's box on Jul 02, 2005 at 12:18 PM
Hi, Im just new here...im looking for advice since iam planning to set up a mini theater in our house and i have considered using the following equipments:

diamond 9.4 for the fronts
diamond 9 CS
diamond DFS (4x for 7.1)
diamond sw150
marantz sr4500

Is this a good combination(the speakers and receiver)? I plan to use it in both music and movies... and is it better to use the DFS for the surround back channel rather than a diamond 9sr?

Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 03, 2005 at 08:41 PM
Hi, Im just new here...im looking for advice since iam planning to set up a mini theater in our house and i have considered using the following equipments:

diamond 9.4 for the fronts
diamond 9 CS
diamond DFS (4x for 7.1)
diamond sw150
marantz sr4500

Is this a good combination(the speakers and receiver)? I plan to use it in both music and movies... and is it better to use the DFS for the surround back channel rather than a diamond 9sr?

Thanks! :)

Marantz and Wharf are both on the warm side i learn that its better to partner gears that have different character, remember matching is important but the gear above are good already. ;D ;D

Welcome to pinoyDVD. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 03, 2005 at 08:44 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/P1030341.jpg)

Was able to hear this Wonderful speaker last Saturday at Jetok's house. :)

Would like to thanks Spectra. ;) ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 03, 2005 at 08:52 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/P1030345.jpg)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 03, 2005 at 09:32 PM
9.6 is BIG....

BIG in soundstage you'll notice the presentation is huge with the feeling of front row seat in a jazz concert the separation hay..you'll also hear the highs and mids that provide a sense of openness and airy feeling.

BIG in imaging considering its huge size this will impress you with it good definition, imaging that i thought mini monitor that are good for even with its 8" woofer trancient response is very good from rock, new wave to jazz sisiw play some drum track it will take your breath away.

BIG in VOCALS Love the sweet sweet mids tried male to female and the result is DA BEST maybe due to its separate midrange driver. ::) ::) ::)

btw gears used:
preamp - Consonance Basie preamp
amp - AMx tube amp
TT - GR-1 with Rega Bias cart/stylus
 
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/P1030343.jpg)

special thanks to spectra ulit.. ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Jul 03, 2005 at 09:35 PM
sana me ibang kulay available for the 9.6, btw anyone tried the 9.6 in a small room?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jerix on Jul 04, 2005 at 07:53 AM
Byutiful 9.6 ;D -- magkano ba yan ngayon mga sirs? tnx  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 04, 2005 at 08:35 AM
Byutiful 9.6 ;D -- magkano ba yan ngayon mga sirs? tnx  ;)

For 17k kakatuwa coz kakaiba ito sir. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 04, 2005 at 08:40 AM
sana me ibang kulay available for the 9.6, btw anyone tried the 9.6 in a small room?

Bro you can inquire with Spectra or your nearest suking audio shop. ;D ;D ;D alam ko meron pa iba color aside from the one we audition. :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bhongskie on Jul 04, 2005 at 09:24 AM
Hi! newbie here as well.  :)

I was able to audition the 9.6 and for me it sounds very good especially the mids, very clear.  The 9.5 I think has the same sonic characteristics as the 9.6 but for my ears the only difference is that the 9.6 has clearer mids and more detail than the 9.5.  I don't exactly know the sonic terms to use but the 9.6 was superb.

Was able to compare it to MA B4, AE Evo 3 and Infinity Primus 360 (auditioned these at Achitectural Audio yesterday) and personally I think the 9.6 sounds better than these 3.  But then again that's a personal note.  And this surely is not an objective observation considering that I heard the speaker in different stores.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Jul 04, 2005 at 10:42 AM
impression ko sa 9.6:

out of the box, thin and dull yung base, neutral and mids, and the highs were smooth pero kulang sa sparkle.

after 3 hours of moderate volume level hooked up to a tuner, it started showing its potential. extended at transparent na yung highs pero smooth pa rin, never harsh or sibilant. yung vocals sa holy cole trio was handled with ease and composure, same with linda rondstant's what's new and sinatra's summerwind.

yung mids natural na natural walang coloration, i believe ito ang strength ng 9.6 considering it's size. imaging is excellent engaging ang vocals, guitars, and piano. big soundstage. we tried different genre of music like vivaldi's four seasons, led zep's moby dick, carol kidd's i thought about you, carl tjadr's guachi guaro, steely dan's gaucho, new order's blt, etc and the presentation was very good.

the base took longer to settle in, it's fast, punchy, and analytical but delivery is inconsistent. not bloomy or as forceful as i hope to be considering the size. maybe kailangan pa ng break in matigas pa yung woofer at kailangan medyo crank up the volume para lumabas yung magandang base.

for me this is value for money, maganda na design (similar to wharf's evo series), solid build quality, imposing appearance (huge), though it's not perfect but it performed with flying colors. exceptional yung naturalness ng mids and give the base a little more time to realize its full potential and you will have a speaker that is hard to beat at this price range.

looking forward to owning one.

akyatbundok ikaw naman mag review para malaman namin impression mo.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Audioboy on Jul 04, 2005 at 01:00 PM
better than B4?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: akyatbundok on Jul 04, 2005 at 08:13 PM
my turn.... (opinion only):

box dimensions are nicely proportional, size is just right in jetok's room, but maybe not in smaller rooms.... if it gets any shorter it would look fat.

i prefer the cherry finish (we tested beech)... rosewood would have been great but the 9's rosewood is too brown & dull unlike Pacific Evo's bright & reddish rosewood.

the tweeters are higher than ear-level; when listening at close distance it seems like the sound is higher, but only very slightly... hans tells me that it sounds fantastic just behind the sofa, but i'm too lazy to stand up.

the speaker does a bookshelf-like disappearing act, with sounds coming from a wide area behind the speakers, width & height have lifelike scale (maybe coz of the room?)... even if you look at the speakers the sound appears to be coming from the wall behind it.

imaging stays consistent during complex passages even when we turn up the volume, the scale just gets bigger... slight caveat: it does seem like it needs to be played a bit louder than usual for best results, but that may be because it's still in the break-in stage??  note: my "usual" volume may be lower than most people.

midrange: voice, sax & piano are wonderfully detailed and natural... i like the tone of female voices on Diamonds & AE -- warm and thick... sometimes it nails a voice (like holly cole's) and what comes out is magical.

bass is fast & tuneful, sometimes powerful but sometimes shy (break-in again?)  B4 has more bass so it sounds great with new wave (incredible for its small size)... but acoustic bass is fast & detailed with the 9.6 (incredible for its big size).... if anything i would like the woofer to loosen up more but not too much, and maybe a little bit more sparkle in the highs but as-is its already very good.... try listening to Pink Floyd "The Wall", its amazing.

(http://203.131.66.146:8080/photo65.jpg)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jcob on Jul 05, 2005 at 01:43 PM
Sir Akyat,

How does it (9.6) compares with your MS Floorstander. I really like to know, I already like the sound of your MS.

Thanks.

Jcob
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: akyatbundok on Jul 05, 2005 at 04:07 PM
jcob,

i didnt compare side-by-side but since i have a Diamond 9.1 i would "guess-timate" that the relative differences are:

highs: 9.6 is a little more laid back
mids: 9.6 is warmer and thicker
bass: 9.6 seems faster, not sure w/c has more

i like voices on the Diamonds than MS, probably an acquired taste since i used AE for a long time; female voices are more familiar to me, and more emotional..... that doesnt mean i dont like voices on the 908, i like it too.... when comparing 2 good products they sometimes have overlapping strengths & weaknesses; and sometimes conclusions are are thrown out the window when you play a different recording or use a different amp or room..... then there are other things such as budget and size that will determine the better choice (maybe WAF? impedance/sensitivity? resale value? etc etc etc).
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jcob on Jul 05, 2005 at 04:26 PM
Thanks sir. I guess I want to know the difference between different brands, specialy MS against Diamand 9. Ang hirap kasi i-audition and compare nito kasi mag kaibang store ang may dala.

So if you were to choose, ano pipiliin mo? MS908 or 9.6
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 05, 2005 at 05:39 PM
Thanks sir. I guess I want to know the difference between different brands, specialy MS against Diamand 9. Ang hirap kasi i-audition and compare nito kasi mag kaibang store ang may dala.

So if you were to choose, ano pipiliin mo? MS908 or 9.6


Bakit upgrade na ba agad sir??


musta pala di ka na pakita sa session.. ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Jul 05, 2005 at 05:49 PM
this 9.6 occurence got me logging back in here again. i just hope this will be all worth my while. hehehe.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jcob on Jul 05, 2005 at 06:01 PM

Bakit upgrade na ba agad sir??


musta pala di ka na pakita sa session.. ;D

Hindi naman sir, wala nga pang-upgrade. Nakaka-enganyo lang itong Diamond 9.6, imagine at 17k meron ka ng floorstander na maganda. And to think, it's $800 sa ibang bansa itong speaker na ito.

Hindi na nga ako nakakasama sa inyo. sama sana ako kila Dong noon, kaya lang late ko na nakita text nya eh. maybe next time sir.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 05, 2005 at 06:05 PM
Jcob,

Bro baka meron sa bundok this Sat. pero pa confirm pa natin kay Chief. ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: watson's box on Jul 06, 2005 at 12:47 PM
Marantz and Wharf are both on the warm side i learn that its better to partner gears that have different character, remember matching is important but the gear above are good already. ;D ;D

Welcome to pinoyDVD. ;D

Thanks for the info! i would just like to know the optimum height for the surround speakers (DFS) if a listener is in a sitting position... i have read alot of suggestions for this say, 1m while the others suggest 1.5m and another audio store suggested that it should be directly leveled with your ear. Which one sounds best for the DFS?

Thanks again! :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Jul 06, 2005 at 02:07 PM
I read somewhere that at least 6ft from the ground or 2ft above the ear level.   Positioning is also important... for DFS, there are those who like it on the side than at the rear end of the room.  Try to experiment first without mounting it permanently and hear/see if what position do you like. Goodluck!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: watson's box on Jul 06, 2005 at 02:18 PM
oh i see, cge thanks for the info! i try them out as soon as i buy my system. im currently setting up kase the place. Pag naayos na, dun ko lang bibilin ung system :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Jul 06, 2005 at 03:11 PM
And while you're at it... determine your viewing/listening position as against the room dimension and size... Dipole /DFS is usually for proportionate rooms so you bounce the sound on the walls while bookshelf can be dynamic in terms of application by.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jerix on Jul 06, 2005 at 03:15 PM
I read somewhere that at least 6ft from the ground or 2ft above the ear level.   Positioning is also important... for DFS, there are those who like it on the side than at the rear end of the room.  Try to experiment first without mounting it permanently and hear/see if what position do you like. Goodluck!

Yeah, principles on speaker placement talked about here come mostly from experiences of enthusiasts.

For me the sound experience is best when the fronts, center and surrounds are at the same level with my ears, that is:

fronts/center ---------- ears ---------- surrounds

For me, this set up allows smoother flow of the fly around effects  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Jul 06, 2005 at 03:23 PM
Great! Kanya-kanya lang talaga ang preferrences... we have all this infos for us to try and figure out how we wanted it _our_ way.  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Jul 06, 2005 at 04:13 PM
pano sir yung center di ba haharang sa view pag ear level  ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 06, 2005 at 04:19 PM
pano sir yung center di ba haharang sa view pag ear level  ???

The TV may have been placed above the level of the speakers. There is really no rule in this hobby. Kung saan tayo masaya, dun tayo dapat.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 06, 2005 at 07:51 PM
pano sir yung center di ba haharang sa view pag ear level  ???

Usually above the tv yun center mo so better tilt it down towards the listeners ears para focus yun dialogue..

DFS try to sit down tapos reach up your arm dun height pwede mo try place yun speaker..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jerix on Jul 07, 2005 at 10:24 AM
pano sir yung center di ba haharang sa view pag ear level  ???

Tama si Hans "tilt it" -- pero sa akin i use 2 center speakers, 1 on top of the TV , 1 below - the effect is better as the two speakers pulls the sound towards dead center of the TV  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Jul 07, 2005 at 01:25 PM
Tama si Hans "tilt it" -- pero sa akin i use 2 center speakers, 1 on top of the TV , 1 below - the effect is better as the two speakers pulls the sound towards dead center of the TV  ;)

ok ito sir ah, masubukan nga din ;) hehehe...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Jul 07, 2005 at 07:10 PM
how does the 9.4 compare to the 9.2?


some say that the 9.4 is more boomy because of the bigger enclosure?  bigger nga ba or parang meron lang built-in stand?


comments please...thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 07, 2005 at 10:41 PM
how does the 9.4 compare to the 9.2?


some say that the 9.4 is more boomy because of the bigger enclosure?  bigger nga ba or parang meron lang built-in stand?


comments please...thanks!


Depende sa room mo best is audition them experienced ko i own 9.2 oks naman sya with small to medium size room yun 9.4 ( meron uncle ko ) oks din sa 6 x 7mtrs room di naman boomy pero bare naman yun room nya no carpet or drapes minsan kasi due to other thing or furniture sa room mo that help add color (bass ) sa speakers.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ake on Jul 08, 2005 at 12:08 AM
May I ask price udates on the Diamond 9 series?
9.6 - ???
And where is the best shop to buy it, where can I buy it cheapest?

thanks guys
ake
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Jul 08, 2005 at 07:55 AM
Tama si Hans "tilt it" -- pero sa akin i use 2 center speakers, 1 on top of the TV , 1 below - the effect is better as the two speakers pulls the sound towards dead center of the TV  ;)

sir, papaano ang connection nito as avr ang ganitong setup? thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: watson's box on Jul 08, 2005 at 09:45 AM
Hi, has any one tried bi-wiring a diamond 9 with a marantz sr4500? how does it sound as compared to a regular connection? Im trying to find out which connection i would make before i buy the cables.

thanks! :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 08, 2005 at 10:19 AM
Hi, has any one tried bi-wiring a diamond 9 with a marantz sr4500? how does it sound as compared to a regular connection? Im trying to find out which connection i would make before i buy the cables.

thanks! :)

http://pinoydvd.com/content/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=28&expv=0&topic=1879.0

http://www.audioholics.com/FAQs/000524_biamping_biwiring.php
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 11, 2005 at 04:21 PM
Post ko lang ito hehehe kawawa naman walng thread for my Evo30 hehehehhe

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/5a87bd02.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/f2976e74.jpg)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 11, 2005 at 04:35 PM
Sir Hans,

Ang ganda!!! Iba talaga pag real wood.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 11, 2005 at 04:39 PM
Sir Hans,

Ang ganda!!! Iba talaga pag real wood.


Thanks pati ata sa sound iba din.. I think?? ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 11, 2005 at 04:47 PM
In action... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/7dcd76b8.jpg)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ZEPHYR on Jul 11, 2005 at 11:04 PM
In action... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/7dcd76b8.jpg)

Oy nakarating na pala sa bundok yang evo mo bro. Tagal na talaga ako wala sa sirkulasyon. Sayang hindi ako nakasama sa inyo gusto ko pa naman marinig sana yan evo mo o alin man sa mga diamond series 9 lalo na yung 9.2 o 9.6 kung pude ipareha dun sa ST70  ;D

Umaandar na naman ata yung SARS dito. Teka maka hibernate na muli at hindi pa ako fully paid kay Kimpao masasabak na naman ako  :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: watson's box on Jul 12, 2005 at 01:14 PM
Help!

I just came from Spectra last week and now i have a dilema on which receiver am i to buy for the diamond 9's im planning to get... mukhang ok din kase ung yamaha rxv650...although mas mahal nag kaunti. Which one is the better receiver in terms of everything? Marantz sr4500 or the yamaha? anyone with a 650 matched with a 650?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: akyatbundok on Jul 12, 2005 at 01:23 PM
Sir Akyat,

How does it (9.6) compares with your MS Floorstander. I really like to know, I already like the sound of your MS.

Thanks.

Jcob

jcob, update lang......

i brought my MS-908 to jetok's place to listen to Pink Floyd "The Wall" LP, so i was able to listen to the same room/setup used in the 9.6 audition...... and i hate to say this but...... tinalo ng 9.6 ang speaker ko huhuhuhu :'(  i really hope na makabawi ang 908 sa ibang album but i'm not that confident.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jerix on Jul 12, 2005 at 02:39 PM
Tama si Hans "tilt it" -- pero sa akin i use 2 center speakers, 1 on top of the TV , 1 below - the effect is better as the two speakers pulls the sound towards dead center of the TV 

sir, papaano ang connection nito as avr ang ganitong setup? thanks for sharing.

Bro Chatstix -- just connected them on SERIES. My receiver can handle up to 16 ohms -- got two 8 ohms center speakers and connecting them on SERIES sums them up into 16 ohms  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Jul 12, 2005 at 05:18 PM
another review of the diamond 9.5 by cnet:

http://reviews.cnet.com/Wharfedale_Diamond_9_5_black/4505-7869_7-31413489.html?tag=cnetfd.sd
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: chatstix on Jul 12, 2005 at 05:20 PM
Bro Chatstix -- just connected them on SERIES. My receiver can handle up to 16 ohms -- got two 8 ohms center speakers and connecting them on SERIES sums them up into 16 ohms  ;D

thanks bro jerix for the instruction.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 12, 2005 at 05:33 PM
Help!

I just came from Spectra last week and now i have a dilema on which receiver am i to buy for the diamond 9's im planning to get... mukhang ok din kase ung yamaha rxv650...although mas mahal nag kaunti. Which one is the better receiver in terms of everything? Marantz sr4500 or the yamaha? anyone with a 650 matched with a 650?

Kung more on HT ka go with Yamaha pag Audio naman eh Marantz pero both are good AVR sa preference mo na lang makakatalo..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 12, 2005 at 05:36 PM
Oy nakarating na pala sa bundok yang evo mo bro. Tagal na talaga ako wala sa sirkulasyon. Sayang hindi ako nakasama sa inyo gusto ko pa naman marinig sana yan evo mo o alin man sa mga diamond series 9 lalo na yung 9.2 o 9.6 kung pude ipareha dun sa ST70  ;D

Umaandar na naman ata yung SARS dito. Teka maka hibernate na muli at hindi pa ako fully paid kay Kimpao masasabak na naman ako  :D

Bro must hear yun 9.6 lalo na sa ST70.. baka magST70 + LS3/5 ang dating ng vocals mo.. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: watson's box on Jul 13, 2005 at 08:59 AM
Kung more on HT ka go with Yamaha pag Audio naman eh Marantz pero both are good AVR sa preference mo na lang makakatalo..

Okie, thanks! parang mas gusto ko na now ung yamaha paired with diamond 9's kse pang movies ko sana gagamitin....hindi ba sha ganun ka ganda sa audio as compared to marantz?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 13, 2005 at 09:10 AM
Okie, thanks! parang mas gusto ko na now ung yamaha paired with diamond 9's kse pang movies ko sana gagamitin....hindi ba sha ganun ka ganda sa audio as compared to marantz?

Don't expect a night and day difference between the 2 amps. Yamahas are known to be bright, "good" for movies. The Marantz's are warm, "good" for music.

The listener should decide what's "good". And when is "good", "good" enough.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 13, 2005 at 09:18 AM
AVReview reviews Wharfedale Diamond 9 surround speaker system.

http://www.avreview.co.uk/news/article.asp?UAN=330
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Jairus on Jul 13, 2005 at 09:32 AM
How does the 9.5 compare with the 9.6? Is the 5k price difference worth it?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bebot santos on Jul 13, 2005 at 12:38 PM
kita ko na un evo 30 ni sir hans, and napakinggan na din,, wanefff swabe lalo't de tubes ang gamit mo... benta mo na yan sir hans,, laki na ng face value nyan heheheh jk!! :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 13, 2005 at 01:32 PM
Don't expect a night and day difference between the 2 amps. Yamahas are known to be bright, "good" for movies. The Marantz's are warm, "good" for music.

The listener should decide what's "good". And when is "good", "good" enough.

Tama si bumblebee pero also remember yun room na where you plan to setup your gears LAKI ng influence sa sound. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 13, 2005 at 01:37 PM
kita ko na un evo 30 ni sir hans, and napakinggan na din,, wanefff swabe lalo't de tubes ang gamit mo... benta mo na yan sir hans,, laki na ng face value nyan heheheh jk!! :D

Bebot,

Di na pwede for sale yan walang bibili hehehe sayang nga at di ko pa na side by side sa 9.6.. pero i doubt na kakayanin yun ganda and sweetness ng 9.6 sa vocals :'( :'( :'( :'( Evo 30 kasi neutral and natural. :) :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 13, 2005 at 01:39 PM
How does the 9.5 compare with the 9.6? Is the 5k price difference worth it?

Yan di pa namin na side by side hehehehe ma schedule nga yan.. hehehehehe we only got to hear the 9.6 itself dati naman 9.2 and 9.4. :) kaya tuloy napa 9.2 ako  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

My experience with Wharf dapat talaga ma warm up kasi initial sound nya talaga malabo minsan pero after 2 to 3 hours hehehe ewan ko na lang kung sabihin pangit pa yan.. ;D ;D ;D parang diesel engine. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 13, 2005 at 01:52 PM
Yan di pa namin na side by side hehehehe ma schedule nga yan.. hehehehehe we only got to hear the 9.6 itself dati naman 9.2 and 9.4. :) kaya tuloy napa 9.2 ako  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Sir Hans,

Paki na lang yung 9.5 vs 9.6 ;D

Ito naman ang gusto ko sa wharfs. Kahit flagship na, affordable pa rin :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 13, 2005 at 02:51 PM
Sir Hans,

Paki na lang yung 9.5 vs 9.6 ;D

Ito naman ang gusto ko sa wharfs. Kahit flagship na, affordable pa rin :)

Sama ka minsan sa session PM kita...  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 13, 2005 at 03:15 PM
Sama ka minsan sa session PM kita...  ;) ;) ;)

Uy, thanks for the invite :D Sana lang hindi ako busy :'(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Jul 15, 2005 at 09:06 AM
Uy, thanks for the invite :D Sana lang hindi ako busy :'(

Definitely mag-eenjoy ka at marami kang matututunan...  ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: wanderlust on Jul 15, 2005 at 01:05 PM
ingat ka lng bro....  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 15, 2005 at 01:45 PM
ingat ka lng bro....  ;D ;D ;D

Bakit meron ba loko sa session?? ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Control on Jul 15, 2005 at 02:36 PM
ingat ka lng bro....  ;D ;D ;D

Ingat saan?  ???   
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: aHobbit on Jul 15, 2005 at 04:32 PM
nagkakahawaan kasi ng sakit do'n! . . . karamihan napupunta doon . . . nahahawaan din ng sakit
. . .
. . .
SARS  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 15, 2005 at 05:06 PM
nagkakahawaan kasi ng sakit do'n! . . . karamihan napupunta doon . . . nahahawaan din ng sakit
. . .
. . .
SARS  ;D

hahahahaha ayos yan bro..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: itgbkj on Jul 15, 2005 at 07:30 PM
AVReview reviews Wharfedale Diamond 9 surround speaker system.

http://www.avreview.co.uk/news/article.asp?UAN=330

Thanks for the update... Nice read especially when I don't have surrounds yet and am still planning to get one... debating on risking for a wh-2 or a 9SR.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Jul 16, 2005 at 07:48 PM
Hi, I am a new and proud owner of 9.4 (2nd hand but good as new) my questions are, what are the difference between and 9.6 and 9.4? Any tips where to buy cheap bi-wired speaker cables for my 9.4? thanks bros... ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 17, 2005 at 08:14 PM
Hi, I am a new and proud owner of 9.2 (2nd hand but good as new) my questions are, what are the difference between and 9.6 and 9.4? Any tips where to buy cheap bi-wired speaker cables for my 9.4? thanks bros... ;D

Bro congrats sa 9.2 as for wires i bought from spectra wire na 4pcs (red/yello/white&black) na yun laman inside the jacket forgot the brand parang puresonic ata color grey yun jacket nya.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Jul 18, 2005 at 05:53 AM
Hi, I am a new and proud owner of 9.2 (2nd hand but good as new) my questions are, what are the difference between and 9.6 and 9.4? Any tips where to buy cheap bi-wired speaker cables for my 9.4? thanks bros... ;D

bro congrats, mukhang alam ko binabalak mo, ;) may nakuha kana bang amp?
invite ka naman sa inyo... hehehe..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Jul 18, 2005 at 08:01 PM
bro congrats, mukhang alam ko binabalak mo, ;) may nakuha kana bang amp?
invite ka naman sa inyo... hehehe..

oops mga pre, sorry wrong post 9.4 pala nde 9.2 (edited my previous post) yung nakuha ko eh yung speaker ni pareng vhongbiker..

sir vhong, text me pag nakuha mo na yung balanse..nadeposito na kanina..thanks pare..
enjoy na enjoy talaga ako dito sa 9.4 mo...jackpot ako dito..hehehe


sir hans,how much kuha mo sa bi-wire speaker cables? salamat, salamat sa pagbati..

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Jul 19, 2005 at 01:05 PM
question po...

how close can i put the 9.1 or 9.2 near my tv?  planning to just have a customized tv rack instead of buying separate speaker stands.

would one inch distance between tv and speaker suffice na? magnetically sheilded naman yung speakers di ba?

salamat po
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 19, 2005 at 01:09 PM
Yes, they are shielded. If you can't find any distortion on the TV w/ the 1" distance, you'll be fine.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 19, 2005 at 01:15 PM
oops mga pre, sorry wrong post 9.4 pala nde 9.2 (edited my previous post) yung nakuha ko eh yung speaker ni pareng vhongbiker..

sir vhong, text me pag nakuha mo na yung balanse..nadeposito na kanina..thanks pare..
enjoy na enjoy talaga ako dito sa 9.4 mo...jackpot ako dito..hehehe


sir hans,how much kuha mo sa bi-wire speaker cables? salamat, salamat sa pagbati..



Bro mura lang yun wires tawag ka na lang kay spectra..8185493 look for Jim or Leslie. :D

sir break in stage pa yan mas masarap makinig after 3 hours na warm up kasi medyo lose na yun woofer maririnig mo na yun true sound nya. ;) ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 19, 2005 at 01:23 PM
I was at spectra yesterday with Jetok, Akyatbundok and Narayan checking out there new listening room hehehehe.


Congrats Spectra..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Jul 19, 2005 at 01:54 PM
wala nga ako experience e...kasi wala pa yung mga gamit.


sir kayo...based on experience how far should the speaker be from the TV?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 19, 2005 at 01:57 PM
wala nga ako experience e...kasi wala pa yung mga gamit.


sir kayo...based on experience how far should the speaker be from the TV?

I didn't have problems when i placed my 9.1's on top of the TV rack w/c is about 6" from the TV.

What I meant with my post was to try the 1" distance tapos kung may distortion, ilayo mo ng kaunti hanggang sa mawala.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Jul 19, 2005 at 02:23 PM
ay ganun! syet...6 inches


im working on veru limited space kaya max distance ng speakers from the tv is about 2 inches lang e.  hayyyy!  hirap ng maliit na space talaga!


baka pwede nyo naman experiment if meron distortion at 1 inch distance.  im banking on the fact that others dont experience when they palce their center channel on top of their TVs...therefore 1-2 inches away from the TV should also work  ???
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 19, 2005 at 02:28 PM
Asul,

Kung center speaker no problem ka dyan as for fronts kung spec nya magnetically shielded then wag magalala.. tsaka in case you place your fronts beside the TV minutes lang magdiscolor na yun side where the speakers is place.  :)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Jul 19, 2005 at 07:34 PM
Bro mura lang yun wires tawag ka na lang kay spectra..8185493 look for Jim or Leslie. :D

sir break in stage pa yan mas masarap makinig after 3 hours na warm up kasi medyo lose na yun woofer maririnig mo na yun true sound nya. ;) ;)

ok sir will call them tomorrow...thanks sir hans  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Jul 20, 2005 at 06:22 AM
oops mga pre, sorry wrong post 9.4 pala nde 9.2 (edited my previous post) yung nakuha ko eh yung speaker ni pareng vhongbiker..

sir vhong, text me pag nakuha mo na yung balanse..nadeposito na kanina..thanks pare..
enjoy na enjoy talaga ako dito sa 9.4 mo...jackpot ako dito..hehehe


sir hans,how much kuha mo sa bi-wire speaker cables? salamat, salamat sa pagbati..


bro nakuha ko na.
thank you....  ;)






Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: watson's box on Jul 20, 2005 at 10:38 AM
any one here who has experienced supplementing their diamond system with a bass shaker? ok ba un?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Jairus on Jul 20, 2005 at 10:57 AM
Any system, kahit hindi Diamond. would benefit from a bass shaker especially in movies ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shuttertrigger on Jul 20, 2005 at 07:46 PM


ok pre... thanks din..hanggang sa muli... ;D
Title: wharfedale 9.6 owners club
Post by: rossifumi46 on Jul 20, 2005 at 09:22 PM
 ;D merun bang ganito? ang dami kaseng fans ng speaker na to:) hahaha
ps i dont work for nor am i related to any store distributing wharfedale... si KOYA ata... haha joke lang koya
Title: Re: wharfedale 9.6 owners club
Post by: john5479 on Jul 20, 2005 at 09:47 PM
If i had the room I would buy these babies in a whim...so admirer lang ako hehe ;D
Title: Re: wharfedale 9.6 owners club
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 22, 2005 at 07:10 AM
;D merun bang ganito? ang dami kaseng fans ng speaker na to:) hahaha
ps i dont work for nor am i related to any store distributing wharfedale... si KOYA ata... haha joke lang koya

Loko mo migs ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D.... di ako connected sa any audio shop meron lang ako suki shop.. ;D ;D ;D

Bili na kasi.. o meron ka na 9.6 kaya naghahanap ka ng member..

pssst wait mo lang lalabas din yun isa.. ;) ;)
Title: Re: wharfedale 9.6 owners club
Post by: rossifumi46 on Jul 22, 2005 at 07:50 AM
Loko mo migs ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D.... di ako connected sa any audio shop meron lang ako suki shop.. ;D ;D ;D

Bili na kasi.. o meron ka na 9.6 kaya naghahanap ka ng member..

pssst wait mo lang lalabas din yun isa.. ;) ;)

anung isa?:)
Title: Re: wharfedale 9.6 owners club
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 22, 2005 at 03:25 PM
anung isa?:)


Easy ka lang lalabas din yan.. ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: wharfedale 9.6 owners club
Post by: kimosabe on Jul 22, 2005 at 03:53 PM
wala bang Scoop Scoop  ::) ;D
Title: Re: wharfedale 9.6 owners club
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 22, 2005 at 06:56 PM
wala bang Scoop Scoop  ::) ;D


pssst sa kabila meron.. ;)
Title: Re: wharfedale 9.6 owners club
Post by: Superman on Jul 22, 2005 at 07:57 PM
hey, if you want a "group buy" just let me know...my source can give a good price...thanks!
Title: Re: wharfedale 9.6 owners club
Post by: rossifumi46 on Jul 23, 2005 at 08:27 AM
wow group buy?!! hahaha ok discount niyan!:)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: LETOR on Jul 24, 2005 at 10:43 AM
Hi Letor,

I have an 8.1 and was able to listen to 9.1 at sights and sounds (Shangrila).  Based on my few minutes of listening to the 9.1, the most noticable difference between the two is in the bass region.  The 9.1 has more bass than the 8.1.  The mid and high section is almost the same.  Maybe the 9.0 will be equivalent to the 8.1 (haven't listened to the 9.0 though) but the 9.1 is, for me, better than 8.1.  To add to that, the 9.1 is already product of the year sa What HiFi magazine.  Now, I'm seriously considering the 9.1 as against to my earlier preference, the 9.6 >:( >:( Just my opinion.

losi_phile


Finally i got a chance to test the 9.1 vs the 8.1. Using the same rotel amp and music:
Observations:
D9.1:
Better bass response (+factor)
Fast transient response (+factor)
More spacious soundstage than 8.1 (+factor)
Vocals quite thinner compared to 8.1 (- factor)

The 8.1 has a warmer and natural vocal sound especially male voices.

Conclusion:

D9.1 - good for instrumentals and instrumental jazz music
D8.1 - good for music with emphasis on vocals.

just my observation.








Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Superman on Jul 25, 2005 at 09:22 AM
congrats to the new diamond 9.6 owner! paramdam ka naman! :D :D :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 25, 2005 at 05:09 PM
Finally i got a chance to test the 9.1 vs the 8.1. Using the same rotel amp and music:
Observations:
D9.1:
Better bass response (+factor)
Fast transient response (+factor)
More spacious soundstage than 8.1 (+factor)
Vocals quite thinner compared to 8.1 (- factor)

The 8.1 has a warmer and natural vocal sound especially male voices.

Conclusion:

D9.1 - good for instrumentals and instrumental jazz music
D8.1 - good for music with emphasis on vocals.

just my observation.











Nice review..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: john5479 on Jul 25, 2005 at 05:18 PM
oo nga kung sino man ung me 9.6 congrats ;D
Title: RE: Diamond 9.6
Post by: Arnel E. on Jul 25, 2005 at 11:29 PM
Thinking of getting a Diamond 9.6.................. :)
Title: Re: wharfedale 9.6 owners club
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 26, 2005 at 01:53 PM
wow group buy?!! hahaha ok discount niyan!:)


hmmmm bili ka na kasi wag na mag-antay.. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: backdraft on Jul 27, 2005 at 11:24 AM
mga sir, im planning to upgrade my diamond 8.4 to a bookshelf maybe 9.2. OK ba tong 9.2 compared to 8.4, what are the differences, I know the number 1 fact would be the bass reproduction pero a sub would take care of it. tama po ba? and any recommendation for other models or brands in the same price range of the 9.2.

maraming salamat  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 27, 2005 at 04:14 PM
mga sir, im planning to upgrade my diamond 8.4 to a bookshelf maybe 9.2. OK ba tong 9.2 compared to 8.4, what are the differences, I know the number 1 fact would be the bass reproduction pero a sub would take care of it. tama po ba? and any recommendation for other models or brands in the same price range of the 9.2.

maraming salamat  ;D

Bro,

Hirap compare yun dalawa kasi bookshelf and floorstander.. audition is the best answer kasi like 9.2 eventhough bookshelf meron enough bass for some music pero for head banging time sub na kailangan mo usually advantage ng bookshelf is better imaging and vocals as compare to floorstander but i'm not saying all floorstander can't do the magic that bookshelf do.. pero from my experience from floorstander to bookshelf you'll notice something missing hehehehe yun bass.

Audition mo lang sir.. :)   
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Superman on Jul 27, 2005 at 04:27 PM
hans, post mo na kasi yung pics nung bago mo, hehehehehe! :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: slayer on Jul 27, 2005 at 06:24 PM
At sinong mama yung may bagong 9.6?  ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: backdraft on Jul 28, 2005 at 08:47 AM
Bro,

Hirap compare yun dalawa kasi bookshelf and floorstander.. audition is the best answer kasi like 9.2 eventhough bookshelf meron enough bass for some music pero for head banging time sub na kailangan mo usually advantage ng bookshelf is better imaging and vocals as compare to floorstander but i'm not saying all floorstander can't do the magic that bookshelf do.. pero from my experience from floorstander to bookshelf you'll notice something missing hehehehe yun bass.

Audition mo lang sir.. :)   

thanks sir hans, audition lang talaga kailangan.

eto naman ser, ano naman magandang speaker stand na below 3K lang sana and san meron.

thanks ulit  ;D

teka sino ba may bago, reviews and pektyur naman, hehehe >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 28, 2005 at 09:07 PM
thanks sir hans, audition lang talaga kailangan.

eto naman ser, ano naman magandang speaker stand na below 3K lang sana and san meron.

thanks ulit  ;D

teka sino ba may bago, reviews and pektyur naman, hehehe >:D >:D >:D

Kahit anong brand basta mabigat ako gamit ko sa 9.2 perfect view lang got for 1,200 second hand hehehehehe..
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 28, 2005 at 09:11 PM
hans, post mo na kasi yung pics nung bago mo, hehehehehe! :D :D :D :D :D

Superman,

Sir wala akong bagong toys... si jack bawaw meron.. ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Superman on Jul 29, 2005 at 10:50 AM
Kahit anong brand basta mabigat ako gamit ko sa 9.2 perfect view lang got for 1,200 second hand hehehehehe..

may 9.2 ka pala eh!!! :D :D :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Jul 29, 2005 at 12:47 PM
meron ba warranty and speakers...if get them from your suking audio shops?



thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: kimosabe on Jul 29, 2005 at 01:12 PM
meron ba warranty and speakers...if get them from your suking audio shops?



thanks!

Yup, meron yatang topic dito, i forgot lang kung saan, regarding audio shops na madaling kausapin kung sakaling lemon nakuha mong speakers.  Meron kasing shop na pababalik balikin ka  >:(
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ASuL on Jul 29, 2005 at 03:08 PM
ok salamat...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: joedancy on Aug 01, 2005 at 05:40 AM
sir.....

that will be of great help to us.... we appreciate it really sir.

till the 2nd week of oct sir...... i would recommend 9.4s. i own a pair. i had b&w before,ok for classical music, didnt rock! 9.4s rock, and beethoven sounds great too. regards
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shotgun on Aug 01, 2005 at 09:03 AM
Hi guys,

Any feedback of the session on 9.5 vs. 9.6? I know dapat ako ang mag audition, but I'd like some reviews from other guys. I'm thinking of getting fronts to start of my HT. It'll be powered by a Marantz 4500.

I auditioned 9.4s in Sights and Sounds and they seemed 'boomy' to me (powered by a Denon).... am I hearing them right? Wouldn't the 9.5 and 9.6 be just as or even more boomy? I'm more of a music guy. Would a 9.2 and SW combo sound better?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 01, 2005 at 03:04 PM
Hi guys,

Any feedback of the session on 9.5 vs. 9.6? I know dapat ako ang mag audition, but I'd like some reviews from other guys. I'm thinking of getting fronts to start of my HT. It'll be powered by a Marantz 4500.

I auditioned 9.4s in Sights and Sounds and they seemed 'boomy' to me (powered by a Denon).... am I hearing them right? Wouldn't the 9.5 and 9.6 be just as or even more boomy? I'm more of a music guy. Would a 9.2 and SW combo sound better?

Try spectra they have both 9.5 and 9.6 on display bring along your marantz tapos request mo dun sa new listening room nila to have a critical listening i'm sure meron ka mauuwi.. ;D

I recomend dun sa listening room kasi controlled yun room so you'll hear agad difference nilang dalawa. :) :) :)

look for Leslie or Jim.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: shotgun on Aug 01, 2005 at 03:21 PM
Okay thanks! I'll visit them tomorrow.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 01, 2005 at 05:24 PM
may 9.2 ka pala eh!!! :D :D :D

Superman,

Tagal na yan. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 02, 2005 at 06:28 PM
Okay thanks! I'll visit them tomorrow.

audition lang bro...

WAG maniwala sa sabi sabi...  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: earfull on Aug 06, 2005 at 10:47 PM
Hi guys! Just joined and saw this thead. Got the 9.4 two weeks ago with the help of Superman. Great service! The speakers were shipped to me in Baguio a day after ordering.

The speakers sounded good out of the box and improves everyday, it seems. After 10 days, I felt the mid highs had some glare. I changed the PBJ interconnects (dac > amp) with a friend's Madrigal IC (don't really know what model - its only a half meter) and immediately the sound smoothened. Great sound!

Since the 9.4 is not tall enough for the tweeter to be at ear level, I asked a carpenter to make a simple box (10"w x 12"d x 6"h), placed a 1 inch thick marble block (10"w x 12"d) on top of it, then placed the spiked speakers on top of the marble block. Perfect height, nice soundstage.

I'm quite happy with the setup which I'll list in case you can give advice /suggestions on how else to improve it:
Pioneer PD-T03 cdp > toslink (spdif not available) > MAudio Superdac > Madrigal IC > NADC320BEE > Midnight Plus > Diamond 9.4.

I've enjoyed going through the threads and have learned a lot which prompted me to share my experience. Hope it can be of use to someone.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Vhongbiker on Aug 08, 2005 at 05:54 AM
Hi guys! Just joined and saw this thead. Got the 9.4 two weeks ago with the help of Superman. Great service! The speakers were shipped to me in Baguio a day after ordering.

The speakers sounded good out of the box and improves everyday, it seems. After 10 days, I felt the mid highs had some glare. I changed the PBJ interconnects (dac > amp) with a friend's Madrigal IC (don't really know what model - its only a half meter) and immediately the sound smoothened. Great sound!

Since the 9.4 is not tall enough for the tweeter to be at ear level, I asked a carpenter to make a simple box (10"w x 12"d x 6"h), placed a 1 inch thick marble block (10"w x 12"d) on top of it, then placed the spiked speakers on top of the marble block. Perfect height, nice soundstage.


nice review bro.
kindly post new looks ng 9.4 mo. ;)

I'm quite happy with the setup which I'll list in case you can give advice /suggestions on how else to improve it:
Pioneer PD-T03 cdp > toslink (spdif not available) > MAudio Superdac > Madrigal IC > NADC320BEE > Midnight Plus > Diamond 9.4.

I've enjoyed going through the threads and have learned a lot which prompted me to share my experience. Hope it can be of use to someone.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Audioboy on Aug 08, 2005 at 09:01 AM
Hi guys! Just joined and saw this thead. Got the 9.4 two weeks ago  with the help of Superman. Great service! The speakers were shipped to me in Baguio a day after ordering.

superman in action!  ;)

jen is indeed a superhero! :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: earfull on Aug 08, 2005 at 10:16 AM
nice review bro.
kindly post new looks ng 9.4 mo.

Have the picture but don't know how to load. Help!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Superman on Aug 08, 2005 at 10:44 AM
superman in action!  ;)

jen is indeed a superhero! :D

thanks bro!... :D happy to have helped earfull in purchasing his new toys...and having a new audio friend! :D :D :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: fweyd on Aug 08, 2005 at 02:54 PM
san ok pwede bumili ng Wharfedale??

laki ba ng difference ng Diamond 9 sa 8 ??

mgkano ung mga Diamond 9.4 or .8.4 ?? ung 2 6.5" speaker na floorstanding ?
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: masterjericho on Aug 08, 2005 at 05:29 PM

you can check out spectra at makati park square1


... they are open for audition too.


mejo inayos nila yung design ng store...

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ZEPHYR on Aug 08, 2005 at 09:55 PM
Hi anyone knows where a cherry 9.2 can be found ::), as per Hans this color is no longer in stock at spectra >:(. Perhaps other shops may have them. I'm a bit busy but would like to acquire a pair in cherry color, I would appreciate the help in finding one :P. TIA.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Aug 09, 2005 at 12:45 PM
Hi anyone knows where a cherry 9.2 can be found ::), as per Hans this color is no longer in stock at spectra >:(. Perhaps other shops may have them. I'm a bit busy but would like to acquire a pair in cherry color, I would appreciate the help in finding one :P. TIA.

you may also try watts hifi in makati cinema square. look for caloy or elmo.
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Superman on Aug 09, 2005 at 12:56 PM
Hi anyone knows where a cherry 9.2 can be found ::), as per Hans this color is no longer in stock at spectra >:(. Perhaps other shops may have them. I'm a bit busy but would like to acquire a pair in cherry color, I would appreciate the help in finding one :P. TIA.

try sonny tuazon, the home theater...he may have stocks now...thanks!
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 09, 2005 at 06:47 PM
Hi anyone knows where a cherry 9.2 can be found ::), as per Hans this color is no longer in stock at spectra >:(. Perhaps other shops may have them. I'm a bit busy but would like to acquire a pair in cherry color, I would appreciate the help in finding one :P. TIA.

Talagang di na ba mapigil??
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ZEPHYR on Aug 09, 2005 at 11:34 PM
Talagang di na ba mapigil??

Well 8) Puwede pa naman maghintay ::).

Pagwala eh di maghihintay ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Superman on Aug 10, 2005 at 02:33 PM
i believe cherry color is available at The Home Theater...thanks! :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ZEPHYR on Aug 11, 2005 at 10:28 PM
Hi anyone knows where a cherry 9.2 can be found ::), as per Hans this color is no longer in stock at spectra >:(. Perhaps other shops may have them. I'm a bit busy but would like to acquire a pair in cherry color, I would appreciate the help in finding one :P. TIA.

:-X :-X Under negotiation :-X :-X
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Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: jowi on Aug 14, 2005 at 02:09 AM
guys any recommend for set-up.
i got yamaha rx-v540 and diamond 9.1 pa lang.
balak ko sana wh2 sorround with center next kong ibili. ok lang ba?
thanks...
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ZEPHYR on Aug 14, 2005 at 11:37 PM
:-X :-X Under negotiation :-X :-X
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:'( Negotiation failed :'(
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Wala na talaga cherry colored 9.2. End of this month pa dating. >:(

Hintay muna ako :P
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: Superman on Aug 15, 2005 at 01:23 PM
have u tried calling The Home Theater, bro? baka meron pa sila...tell Sonny i referred you...thanks! :D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sebman on Aug 15, 2005 at 04:40 PM
Hi anyone knows where a cherry 9.2 can be found ::), as per Hans this color is no longer in stock at spectra >:(. Perhaps other shops may have them. I'm a bit busy but would like to acquire a pair in cherry color, I would appreciate the help in finding one :P. TIA.

uy pre.. congrats.. padinig na lang nyan ha.. daan ako sa haus nyo..  ;D :D ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: sebman on Aug 15, 2005 at 04:41 PM
:'( Negotiation failed :'(
[/b]

Wala na talaga cherry colored 9.2. End of this month pa dating. >:(

Hintay muna ako :P

patience is virtue daw pre.. lapit na yan..  ;)  ::)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 15, 2005 at 06:44 PM
patience is virtue daw pre.. lapit na yan..  ;)  ::)

Senor sebman,

ganyan ba pinairal mo sir... hehehehhee
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ZEPHYR on Aug 15, 2005 at 09:35 PM
have u tried calling The Home Theater, bro? baka meron pa sila...tell Sonny i referred you...thanks! :D

Hindi pa bro. Try ko nga :P :P :P
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: ZEPHYR on Aug 15, 2005 at 09:46 PM
uy pre.. congrats.. padinig na lang nyan ha.. daan ako sa haus nyo..  ;D :D ;)

Dito ka ba pre ???. Kala ko your somewhere there ;)

Text mo ako pag punta ka at medyo hectic ang schedule ko. Eto nga hindi nga makapaghanap ng 9.2 nanghihingi na nga ako ng help sa mga taga PDVD he he he  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: bumblebee on Aug 16, 2005 at 08:50 AM
Hey guys,

What Home Cinema reviews (http://www.homecinemachoice.com/cgi-bin/outputpdf.php?file=WHC/033/084_WHC_033.pdf) Diamond 9.0, 9.CC and SW150. 5 stars for the sats ;)
Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: vvt-i on Aug 16, 2005 at 10:42 AM
guys any recommend for set-up.
i got yamaha rx-v540 and diamond 9.1 pa lang.
balak ko sana wh2 sorround with center next kong ibili. ok lang ba?
thanks...

hi,

i was also using wh2 with yammy 440, wharf diamond 9.1, and diamond 9cs. integration was seamless as compared with my ma b4 and bcenter. im now using 9cm and 9.6 with the wh2 and the integration is still ok for me, i just increased the level in the avr for the rear speakers to keep up with the 9.6 and 9cm.

Title: Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 16, 2005 at 02:36 PM
Dito ka ba pre ???. Kala ko your somewhere there ;)

Text mo ako pag punta ka at medyo hectic ang schedule ko. Eto nga hindi nga makapaghanap ng 9.2 nanghihingi na nga ako ng help sa mga taga PDVD he he he  ;D ;D ;D