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Title: Turntable Part 2
Post by: levi on Sep 21, 2002 at 11:24 PM
Continuation of the thread Turntable as your Source....Anyone?  (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=9;action=display;threadid=1511).
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: corrsty on Sep 23, 2002 at 08:31 PM
Schumie,

Kelan ang dating ni Clearaudio boss?  Puede ba naming ma-meet or kailangan existing customer ka nila?

corrsty
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Sep 24, 2002 at 09:44 AM
Hello corrsty,

I made a mistake, its not Peter, but Robert, the son who will visit the Philippines.

I'm not yet sure what his itinerary is when he arrives.  

Hmmmmm.....

Maybe some sort of small gathering to formally launch the brand here in the Philippines.  :)

Maybe some sort of small party with small giveaways such as MC carteidges.  :D

Maybe he will raffle off a Master Reference, complete with Master TQI arm and Insider Wood MC cartridge.  ;D
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: corrsty on Sep 25, 2002 at 08:22 PM
naks!!!!  sana ma-invite ako dyan.  btw, i got your text.  siguro not a the moment.  nag-iipon pa ako :o)

if its a master reference and the tq1 arm and the insider cart......yum!!!!

corrsty
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: Racio on Sep 26, 2002 at 01:28 AM
Maybe some sort of small party with small giveaways such as MC carteidges.  :D

Maybe he will raffle off a Master Reference, complete with Master TQI arm and Insider Wood MC cartridge.  ;D


C'mon pare, let's rig the raffle na lang! J/K  ;)
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: Adam Warlock on Sep 26, 2002 at 10:33 AM
Hey Guys,
Don't forget me, sabit ako. Especially sa raffle.  ;)
Racio, If you won the raffle you can toss your thorens I wouldn't mind. he he   ;D
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: Racio on Sep 26, 2002 at 11:16 AM
Hey Guys,
Don't forget me, sabit ako. Especially sa raffle.  ;)
Racio, If you won the raffle you can toss your thorens I wouldn't mind. he he   ;D

Pare, if ever Mr. Suchy goes out of his mind and gives away a Master Reference tt, and by a stroke of wonderful luck I'd win (even if it were just the Insider cart alone) sayo na yung Thorens ko!  ;)
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Sep 26, 2002 at 11:41 AM
Hey Racio,

How about me????  ::)
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: corrsty on Sep 27, 2002 at 11:59 PM
Will there be turntable demos?  Sana hindi lang Champion ang i-demo.  I guess AVDI carried products ang associated equipments kung may demo?
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: corrsty on Sep 28, 2002 at 03:18 PM
schums.....how are the Blue Points o ina-adjust mo pa rin :o)

edrich
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Sep 30, 2002 at 08:15 AM
Initial tests IMHO revealed, detailed mid highs.  A bit on the bright side.   :P

I have been playing my Telarc 1812 Overture to break it in for quite some time.  ;D

Now, mid-bass as well as bottom end is becoming more defined.  At last!  :)

I'm still going to experiment on my arm's VTA.  Orig washers to increase VTA height costs $15 a piece (kalokohan  >:().  Can't seem to find a local hardware store which has the same diameter for the washer.  :'(

I will be experimenting with DIY washers made of cardboard or illustration board or cartolina.  Maybe this will also be some sort of damping material for the arm.  ;D

I already have a 1-inch thick MDF to be used for the Turntable base.  Now to look for some cheap Vibrapods.  I'll first try out those 3M rubber feet.  I have a lot of these thingies.  :)
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: corrsty on Sep 30, 2002 at 09:27 PM
schums,

nice to hear you're enjoying your new cart.  pag-uwi ko parinig naman :o)

Ang tinik naman ng burn in record mo.  

Edrich
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Oct 01, 2002 at 03:43 PM
Sure corrsty!

BTW, remember when we were talking about that Ringmat thing?  I was doing some surfing and found out that if you use this Ringmat thingy, it is not recommended that you use a record clamp.  

Hmmm.... different priciple.  Others say that a Record Clamp is needed in order to "clamp" the LP to the platter firmly.  Producers of the Ringmat think otherwise.

So what goodies will you be bringing home?

Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: corrsty on Oct 02, 2002 at 08:24 PM
Yeah, there are a lot of different approaches.  Kakalito minsan.  Others say vacuum turntable is the way to go, but other says there are weaknesses also.

I think the Ringmat would add thickness to the platter, that's why you will need to adjust your VTA.  They do have the Ringmat edition where you can supposedly add or subtract mats so that you can almost play with the VTA.

When I get home, maybe we can try my tube phono stage in your system.  I just wanna now kung meron syang ibubuga sa XLP mo..hehheehe......

BTW, have tried using 6CA7 tubes instead of the EL34 tubes on your ST-70?

Edrich
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: Racio on Oct 02, 2002 at 10:26 PM
Hey Racio,

How about me????  ::)

Pare, I'm sure we can do somethin' about yer crave for new wave vinyls. Let's give 'em ex-DJ guys a "Tony Soprano style" visit then.   ;)  
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Oct 03, 2002 at 08:19 AM
Hello corrsty,

Tubes have various aliases. EL34s are also called 6CA7s.  Right now, I'm using Great Britain GT 6CA7s.  Mullard?  I really don't know.  What I know is that, IMHO the mids are a lot musical as compared to other EL34s / 6CA7s I have tried i.e. "Wide Body" General Electric, Sovtek, Tesla, etc.

Hi Racio,

Nakukulitan na ata si Mr. ex-DJ sa akin eh.  ;D  I have texted him several times asking if he would sell some of his LPs.  He justs texts me back saying that when he does decide to sell, he will contact me.  For the meantime its BEBOP time!
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: corrsty on Oct 03, 2002 at 03:51 PM
There's a new Big Bottle type 6CA7s by Electro Harmonix.  They're getting good response in the Tube Asylum.  
Nagbabalak akong mag-uwi ng mga spare tubes, hindi nga lang NOS.  

Johnny Dude, how's our frolic in SoKor?  What gears did you see over there?  Pare, would you know what kind of wood would be a close match to Maples in terms of vibration, resonance, etc?

Edrich
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: Racio on Oct 04, 2002 at 07:02 PM
Hi Racio,

Nakukulitan na ata si Mr. ex-DJ sa akin eh.  ;D  I have texted him several times asking if he would sell some of his LPs.  He justs texts me back saying that when he does decide to sell, he will contact me.  For the meantime its BEBOP time!

We'll just have to wait for ol' Sammy to come around then. Pity though that they're merely gathering dust somewhere.  :-\
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: Racio on Oct 04, 2002 at 09:23 PM
Johnny Dude, how's our frolic in SoKor?  What gears did you see over there?  Pare, would you know what kind of wood would be a close match to Maples in terms of vibration, resonance, etc?

Edrich

Unfortunately, I didn't see any turntables, not even a single freakin' vinyl during our short stay there. Nothing in their 9-storey Techno Mart which was already packed w/ electronic goodies. Most were AV receivers, DVDPs, SACDPs and plasma tellys. Sadly, due to the language disparity, it became difficult for us to find a shop that caters to analog aficionados.  :-\

Which wood you say? Sorry, can't help you there bud since I'm only using MDFs for me amps' platform. Better check the DIY and tweaks forum at AA.  :)
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: dondon on Oct 05, 2002 at 11:08 AM
There's a new Big Bottle type 6CA7s by Electro Harmonix.  They're getting good response in the Tube Asylum.  
Nagbabalak akong mag-uwi ng mga spare tubes, hindi nga lang NOS.  

Johnny Dude, how's our frolic in SoKor?  What gears did you see over there?  Pare, would you know what kind of wood would be a close match to Maples in terms of vibration, resonance, etc?

Edrich

corrsty,

ok. ba rin yung 7591 ng Electro Harmonix as replacement for the orig RCA 7591 of my scott 299D?
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: corrsty on Oct 06, 2002 at 02:19 AM
Thanks John.

Been reading about maple wood as a good turntable support.  Look at http://www.mapleshaderecords.com/tweaks/platforms.html (http://www.mapleshaderecords.com/tweaks/platforms.html)

Hi Dondon,
Sorry,  I haven't tried them yet.  The other Electro Harmonics tubes seems to be regarded well.

Edrich
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: arnoldc on Oct 06, 2002 at 09:00 PM
Thanks to Hyperaudio, i have reunited with Jeff Beck and Laurindo Almeida. On vinyl!
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: corrsty on Oct 11, 2002 at 01:54 AM
Congrats Arnold on your new analog rig.  Kakainggit ka man!!!

Edrich
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: tonedeaf on Oct 11, 2002 at 09:08 AM
hi all!

[newbie question]

i recall my parents having a turntable and a few records when i was a child, but since then, have not had the chance to tinker with a turntable again.

since joining pinoydvd, i've gone the home theater route and my current set-up is this:

Onkyo 494 (which amazingly, has a phono input)
Mission M73
Mission M7c1
Mission M70 (soon!)

i'd like to expand my set-up to include a turntable.  considering that this is fairly entry-level, would it be a good idea to do so?  or will a turntable require a better set of speakers, or a different receiver? i don't think i'll be upgrading in the next few years and i'm quite happy with my set-up (both for music and HT).  can you recommend a turntable which would match?  Thanks.
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Oct 11, 2002 at 10:55 AM
Hello tonedeaf,

You really don't need to have an excellent set-up to realize the benefits of an analog front-end.  Even simple set-ups will already give you great sound from LPs.  

Just note that it is very important that LPs are clean before playing.  Dirt on LPs is one of the major causes for poor sound performance.  Another factor would be a misaligned cartridge set-up.  Both these factors are the main reasons why most people go the CD route.  Yes, kailangan lang medyo matyaga ka when you go the analog route.  Don't worry about it, its well worth the trouble.
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: rtsy on Oct 11, 2002 at 11:04 AM
Onkyo 494 (which amazingly, has a phono input)

Not because something has a phono stage it means it's a good phono stage.  ;-P

i'd like to expand my set-up to include a turntable.  considering that this is fairly entry-level, would it be a good idea to do so?

It depends on the turntable.  I've heard turntable-based systems that are just as clinican and harsh as CD based systems.  However on a good tuentable in a sympathetic system, the sense of rightness of sound on analog is truly something to behold.

Just like everything audio, a TT can be cheap (~PhP10k for a used direct drive model for example) or expensive (US$70k Rockport).  Ditto for vinyl discs which range from PhP50 for used ones to well over US$1,000 for rare oldies in mint condition.

I strongly suggest you visit Hyperaudio's shop so you can hear vinyl.

Also visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pinoydiophiles where there are a bunch of vinyl (as well as digital) lovers.

Happy listening!
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: young_hov on Oct 11, 2002 at 11:28 AM
I do have to agree with sir Shoemaker.  You really don't have to spend a bundle to appreciate vinyl.  My setup is as basic as they get.  I'm just using a vintage Nak 420 and a Technics tt.  I don't know why but to my ears vinyl sounds so much warmer and natural.  It's tedious compared to cd's but in my opinion well worth the work.  Cheers!
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Oct 11, 2002 at 05:56 PM
Yup, I have heard of a lot of budget turntables, even direct drive ones, which were properly calibrated, being very musical.   :)

Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: arnoldc on Oct 11, 2002 at 07:48 PM
Thanks man! I'm really happy with this 'table.
Congrats Arnold on your new analog rig.  Kakainggit ka man!!!

Edrich
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: hyperaudio on Oct 11, 2002 at 08:17 PM
which 'table arnold? the oracle delphi with sme series III
and clearaudio aurum alpha?
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: arnoldc on Oct 11, 2002 at 08:42 PM
@hyperaudio, yes. that's the one!  ;D
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Oct 14, 2002 at 05:07 PM
hi arnoldc,

I saw your Oracle Delphi with SME at Pinoydiophiles.  That's indeed a nice front-end my friend.  :)
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: arnoldc on Nov 05, 2002 at 02:35 PM
hi M_Shoe_Maker,

thanks! it's a good match with the acrylic rack. he he.
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: dondon on Nov 06, 2002 at 12:36 PM
Yup, I have heard of a lot of budget turntables, even direct drive ones, which were properly calibrated, being very musical.   :)



bro, do you know anyone who could calibrate a sansui direct drive TT?


thanks

dondon
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Nov 06, 2002 at 02:55 PM
hi dondon,

You could try checking out Hyperaudio for your turntable's calibration/tuning.
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: dondon on Nov 06, 2002 at 03:53 PM
hi dondon,

You could try checking out Hyperaudio for your turntable's calibration/tuning.

salamat M_S_M  :)

Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Nov 08, 2002 at 05:44 PM
There are various tools needed to properly tune a turntable/arm/cartridge.

The basic of the basic would be the following:
1.  Bubble Level
-  to properly level the turntable / platter

2.  Cartridge Alignment Tool / Protractor
-  to properly align the cartridge vis-a-vis the record grooves

3.  Tracking Force Gauge
-  to properly set the counterweight of the tonearm


You can watch a person do this for you.  Eventually, you can learn this and do it by yourself.  Its fun! (to some)
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Dec 18, 2002 at 08:07 AM
So, any new converts from digital to analog?

Its the perfect time to be converted my freinds!  ;D

My friend's LP stash from the U.S. has arrived.  Very good condition LPs.  Various types of music available.

So c'mon, let the analog bug bite you!  You'll love it!  ;D

Analog is not dead!  (that's why this thread is on top again  ;D)


Arnoldc, enjoying your new "The Wall" album?  :)
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: arnoldc on Dec 18, 2002 at 09:13 AM
@M_Shoe_Maker, i have not played it kasi i was listened to Carly Simon and Sergio Mendes & Brasil 66 last night. CD sound wouldn't come close.   :D

Pinakyaw mo ba yung mga INXS  ;D
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Dec 18, 2002 at 09:26 AM
arnoldc,  

He! He! He!  Naka reserve na ang INXS LPs for me  :)  Malay mo, in a few years, collectible na rin yun as the lead signer is already dead.

You saw, Analog Man's VPI TNT Mk5 Table / Air Tangent Arm / Clearaudio Harmony MC cartridge set-up?  
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: arnoldc on Dec 18, 2002 at 10:57 AM
yes, of course. he asked me nga why i know it is an air tangent. sabi ko, i researched on TTs and would like to have that on my oracle. but the $10,000 price tag is out of my reach.  ;D
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Dec 18, 2002 at 11:04 AM
Grabe talaga yung Air Tangent.  Did he show you the air pump?  Its the big box outside his listening room.  Nakakatakot.  I thought it was some sort of generator.  ;D

Both of you nga pala practically have the same style of rack.  Acrylic with threaded stainless steel bars.
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: arnoldc on Dec 18, 2002 at 11:18 AM
yes, we talked a little bit about acrylic rack making too.  :)
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Dec 18, 2002 at 02:27 PM
Alright!

I just had lunch with the Analog Man and was able to get my New Wave / Punk Rock LPs.  At long last, I have a mint copy of the Clash - London Calling double album!  :)

Wala nanaman akong pera!  :(

Anyway, LPs are more important than food, don't you think?  ;D
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: arnoldc on Dec 18, 2002 at 02:38 PM
I'll beg for vinyl, but not for food  ;D
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Dec 18, 2002 at 02:49 PM
Dats da spirit my boy!  ;D

We both have the right priorities in life.  ;D

Its analog or nothing!
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Jan 14, 2003 at 12:02 AM
hi guys!

how much is a rega P2 dito sa pinas? san meron? what's a
good alternative?

sa mga 2nd hand na mesa, ano maganda at ang price ranges?

thanks!
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: corrsty on Jan 14, 2003 at 02:36 PM
Hi tuff_u_gong,

I don't think there's a distributor of Rega turntables in the Philippines but there are a no. of Planar 2's and 3's that float around.......(like at hyper's place)

As for second hand budget tables, you won't go wrong with the Regas; Thorens is another good bet (160, 166, 124, etc.).  You might find some Projects.

Maybe you can tell us your budget and maybe we can come up with a very decent deck.

Good luck.

Edrich
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Jan 14, 2003 at 07:55 PM
I'm not sure, but I think Hyperaudio still has a Rega Planar 3.
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Jan 14, 2003 at 11:35 PM
Hi tuff_u_gong,

I don't think there's a distributor of Rega turntables in the Philippines but there are a no. of Planar 2's and 3's that float around.......(like at hyper's place)

As for second hand budget tables, you won't go wrong with the Regas; Thorens is another good bet (160, 166, 124, etc.).  You might find some Projects.

Maybe you can tell us your budget and maybe we can come up with a very decent deck.

Good luck.

Edrich

thanks corrsty!

actually i'm raising some funds for a pre-amp, a turntable/cartridge and, kung kaya pa, a speaker upgrade. i'm not sure yet how i'll allocate.

sa turntable, basta lumamang lang ang tunog sa cd/dvd player ko OK na.

san ba may thorens? yan ba yung brand na binebenta ni sir sonny tuazon?

thanks!


Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: stereophile on Jan 15, 2003 at 03:47 AM
tuff,

Sonny Tuazon sells project turntables.

Xinesyss, another member, was selling his Project 1.2 TT last time for 9K. I think it comes with a cartridge or two. It is a month or two old. You can send him a PM.

I agree, analog is better than digital--at least to my ears. Just make sure your pre-amp has a phono stage, otherwise, you'd have to get a separate one.
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: corrsty on Jan 17, 2003 at 11:27 AM
tuff,

you're welcome.

I think the Project 1.2 is a good starter table.  This turntable, when properly set up or any other turntable, could easily beat your cd/dvd player.

Some advice:

I heard some vinyl newbie (not that i'm saying you're new) who ventured to LP that didn't like the sound, or absolutely hated it because of LP intricacies, eg. occassional pops and ticks (so called popcorn sound).   Probably they were not advised that vinyls, although is the best high resolution format at the  moment, needs more TLC.  If you don't mind scrubbing your LPs, you should invest in a Record Cleaning Machine dahil nakakatamad maglinis ng plaka.  Also, not all ticks and pops can be remedied by cleaning.

Just a word of advice.  

Pero if you're a music lover and you want to capture the warmth and correctness of the music, LPs the way.

Good luck.
Edrich
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Jan 18, 2003 at 12:31 AM
Digital is was of the evils in society  ;D

Why?

It has made people lazy  ;D

Why?

With Digital, one does not need to do the necessary responsibilities to obtain good music reproduction.  That is; cleaning your LPs, aligning and cleaning your cartridge, etc. etc.

corrsty is absolutely right.  In order to achieve good sound from your analog playback system, you must at least be dedicated in doing the necessary "chores".

Well, its no crime if your lazy and will just settle for Digital  ;D

As they say:  "No pain, no gain"  ;D
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Jan 18, 2003 at 04:27 AM
tuff,

you're welcome.

I think the Project 1.2 is a good starter table.  This turntable, when properly set up or any other turntable, could easily beat your cd/dvd player.

Some advice:

I heard some vinyl newbie (not that i'm saying you're new) who ventured to LP that didn't like the sound, or absolutely hated it because of LP intricacies, eg. occassional pops and ticks (so called popcorn sound).   Probably they were not advised that vinyls, although is the best high resolution format at the  moment, needs more TLC.  If you don't mind scrubbing your LPs, you should invest in a Record Cleaning Machine dahil nakakatamad maglinis ng plaka.  Also, not all ticks and pops can be remedied by cleaning.

Just a word of advice.  

Pero if you're a music lover and you want to capture the warmth and correctness of the music, LPs the way.

Good luck.
Edrich

hi corrsty!

i'm fairly familiar with that popcorn sound kasi lumaki din ako with LPs. i also liked cleaning my records and cartridge - am not sure if i did things right back then, though...i agree with the TLC thing. hindi nga ako nagpapahiram ng plaka kahit sa closest friends ko. ha! ha!

anyway, i'm quite excited to play my old LP records (not that many) again specially with the ST-70 that now resides in my room!

btw, i saw a couple of old technics turntables around my parents' house that i may still be able to restore, rewire. if any of them work i'll be needing a good cartridge/needle and a pre-amp (i'm currently using a passive line stage built by GURU hyper) with a good phono stage (or even an MF X-LP which has a moving coil option).

thanks!


hi m_shoe_maker!

what's a good reference for turntable care and maintenance sa web?

thanks!

Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Jan 18, 2003 at 10:39 AM
Hi tuff_u_gong,

Don't worry about the fact that you don't even let your close friends borrow your LPs.  In the audiophile community, there is an unwritten law that nobody borrows each others LPs.  You can swap or trade LPs your with audiophile friends but not borrow.  Its not being selfish and its perfectly ethical.  No normal audiophile would even think of borrowing LPs from a fellow audiophile.  Well, that is with the audiophile community.

As to good sites in the web, I just type in "Cartridge Alignment" in a search engine such as Yahoo,  and a lot of good informative sites come out.  
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: dondon on Jan 22, 2003 at 02:28 PM
msm,

do you know gerry kaimo?distributor pala sya ng protractor. also, have you seen this  version of the protractor from the website of enjoy the music?(http://www.enjoythemusic.com/protract1.jpg)

dondon
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Jan 22, 2003 at 06:30 PM
Hello dondon,

I don't personally know Gerry Kaimo, but heard he is also an audiophile.  Yup, I also bumped unto his name when I was surfing Enjoy the Music, specifically that protractor.

I have not tried contacting him though for that protractor.
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Jan 26, 2003 at 03:54 PM
I finally saw an original "Victor Talking Machine".  This is the antique phonograph I really wanted to have for display purposes.

According to the seller, it still rotates and works.  The only thing missing is the stylus.

The price? P35T.  My oh my.  Oh never mind,  I'll just settle with my RCA/Victor tin poster.  The one with the Victor Phonograph and Nipper (the white dog).
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: dondon on Jan 27, 2003 at 07:45 PM
just got an old tube powered? (there are tubes inside, i'm not sure, maybe its a phono preamp or something) westinhouse turntable, a suitcase type. from the looks of it, it just needs minor restoration, particularly the metal plate. will tell you more about it later.
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Jan 27, 2003 at 08:23 PM
Uy dondon, OK yan ah.  Akin na lang. :D
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Feb 03, 2003 at 07:24 AM
Hi tuff_u_gong,

I don't think there's a distributor of Rega turntables in the Philippines but there are a no. of Planar 2's and 3's that float around.......(like at hyper's place)

As for second hand budget tables, you won't go wrong with the Regas; Thorens is another good bet (160, 166, 124, etc.).  You might find some Projects.

Maybe you can tell us your budget and maybe we can come up with a very decent deck.

Good luck.

Edrich

hi again!

where can one find thorens units? are they used? where did racio get his unused deck?

thanks!
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Feb 03, 2003 at 07:32 AM
read somewhere that denon 103 and 103r moving coil cartriges are really great buys.

can we find any of these models here in manila. if ever, who is the dealer?

thanks again!
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Feb 03, 2003 at 10:51 PM
Hello tuff_u_gong,

Racio got his Thorens at Sensible Audio - Basement of Makati Cinema Sqr.  Try asking if he is selling it.  Racio already has an Oracle, and may be wanting to sell his Thorens TD 160 Super.

Sometimes, Hyperaudio has good used Thorens too.
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Feb 04, 2003 at 10:38 AM
Hello tuff_u_gong,

Racio got his Thorens at Sensible Audio - Basement of Makati Cinema Sqr.  Try asking if he is selling it.  Racio already has an Oracle, and may be wanting to sell his Thorens TD 160 Super.

Sometimes, Hyperaudio has good used Thorens too.


thanks again fritz!

i sent racio a pm already.

tuff
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: Ianbond on Feb 20, 2003 at 11:42 AM
This thread (and the previous one) really got me interested in TT's. I found out my dad used to have this old Technics TT (direct drive) and I'm actually thinking of having it restored.  (plugged it but it did not spin).

Right now am sorting my dad's LP collection. So far I've seen several Jobim's, Sergio Mendes Brasil 66 and 77, Astrud, Kaizan Neptune, America, Carpenters, some Brazilian LP's,  Isley Brothers, Joan Baez, Angela Bofill,  Bob Dylan, Burt Bacharach, and Carole King. (dang my dad's got a nice collection). Will try to sort everything as soon as I get back from work.
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Feb 20, 2003 at 11:45 AM
thanks to all of you! i now have a turntable!

next question: what kind of alcohol should i use to clean the stubborn dirt that sometimes accumulates in the stylus? where can i find them?

thanks!
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: dondon on Feb 20, 2003 at 02:18 PM
This thread (and the previous one) really got me interested in TT's. I found out my dad used to have this old Technics TT (direct drive) and I'm actually thinking of having it restored.  (plugged it but it did not spin).

Right now am sorting my dad's LP collection. So far I've seen several Jobim's, Sergio Mendes Brasil 66 and 77, Astrud, Kaizan Neptune, America, Carpenters, some Brazilian LP's,  Isley Brothers, Joan Baez, Angela Bofill,  Bob Dylan, Burt Bacharach, and Carole King. (dang my dad's got a nice collection). Will try to sort everything as soon as I get back from work.


you got one hell of bossanova collection, yung mga sergio mendez ok na eh, what model of technics do you have? i'm using SL1300, check mo rin baka 110 yan or baka busted fuse lang , matibay mga direct drives.
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Feb 20, 2003 at 04:57 PM
Hello tuff_u_gong,

For the stylus cleaner, you can try Audiophile.  Before, they sold Audio Technica stylus cleaners.  I'm not sure of the price and if they still have stocks.  The last time I bought those was about a decade ago.  I bought around 7 of those small bottles.   :)  Now, I'm on my last bottle.

Since you have a Clearaudio cartridge, you can try out Clearaudio's stylus cleaner.  ;)   I find it better since it has longer and softer bristles as compared to the Audio Technica.

Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Feb 20, 2003 at 05:02 PM
Hello thedude,

Don't believe anything here in this thread.  Turntables suck big time!  ;D  Throw your LPs away!  ;D  On the otherhand, I can throw them away for you.  Just giv 'em to me. ;D

Kidding aside, you got one mighty collection thanks to your dad.  ;)  Take good care of your newly found treasure.

Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: Racio on Feb 20, 2003 at 07:45 PM
Hello thedude,

Don't believe anything here in this thread.  Turntables suck big time!  ;D  Throw your LPs away!  ;D  On the otherhand, I can throw them away for you.  Just giv 'em to me. ;D

thedude,

Actually, we have this LP disposal system you might want to try out. Best of all, it's completely free of any service charge! hehe.  ;)

thanks to all of you! i now have a turntable!

next question: what kind of alcohol should i use to clean the stubborn dirt that sometimes accumulates in the stylus? where can i find them?

thanks!

Hey tuff,

Also try the A11 of Denmark stylus cleaner from Audiophile, it has an unusually longer brush compared to the AudioTechnica and ClearAudio, and comes w/ an LP carbon brush, CD cleaner, and a cassette cleaner to boot. And all that for only 300 bucks (php)!
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Feb 23, 2003 at 01:56 PM
They say that when you grow up, that's the time you will appreciate how important education is.  :(

Yup, when I was still in school, I really hated Geometry and Physics.  In fact, I almost flunked both subjects.  :(

Now that I am an analog addict, I regret the days when I cut school and did not listen to my Geometry and Physics Professors.  :(

You see, both subjects do apply when you align and tune your turntable, specifically tonearms, more specifically, pivoted tonearms.  :o

As mentioned earlier, aligning your cartridge/tonearm is a must in order for your analog rig to sound its best.  You just don't screw in the cartridge and play an LP.  ::)

Geometry:  This is important in order to understand why pivoted tonearms cannot be aligned perfectly in the "optimum path" of the LP's groove (that's why the Linear Tracking Arm was invented).  Because pivoted tonearms pivot from a point source, there is a certain degree where the stylus will not be 100% aligned vis-a-vis the LP's groove.  Understanding geometry will show you how to get the least deviation in this so called "imperfect alignment of pivoted tonearms".  Geometry will also let you understand why Overhang, a measurement usually forgotten by some turntable users, is very important in order to obtain the least imperfect alignment.

Physics:  This is important in order to understand why pivoted tonearm have anti-skating mechanisms.  Physics is why the pivoted tonearm has this tendency to force itself into the inner-groove of the LP.

Disregarding both subjects will make you have a poorly aligned / tuned analog rig.  This of course will have  your turntable produce bad sound......  :(

......... which will also bring about undue wear to your cartridge and LP........  :(

......... which will make you say that digitial is superior to analog.........  :P


I wished I had studied harder on these 2 subjects.


The moral of the lesson?

Tapusin at ayusin ang pag-aaral........  :)

.......Wag tularan ang bisyo.......  :)

.......Except ang bisyo sa pagbibili ng plaka!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Feb 24, 2003 at 12:01 PM

Hey tuff,

Also try the A11 of Denmark stylus cleaner from Audiophile, it has an unusually longer brush compared to the AudioTechnica and ClearAudio, and comes w/ an LP carbon brush, CD cleaner, and a cassette cleaner to boot. And all that for only 300 bucks (php)!

hi racio!

do you remember which branch of audiophile components carries the A11?

btw, thanks again for helping me rediscover analog. the td-160 sings pretty well with the aurum alpha!

tuff
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: iceman90a on Feb 26, 2003 at 01:36 AM
question po:

i would like to add a turn-table to my audio set-up. but my receiver does not have a phono input, can i use the aux line in? where do i connect the ground wire?

thank you

Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: stereophile on Feb 26, 2003 at 04:49 AM
iceman90a-

Yes, you can use your AUX input. However, since it is a linestage, you have to hook-up a separate phonostage (like Musical Fidelity X-LP/LPS/LPS2). These separate phonostages have a terminal for grounding.

If your amp/AVR has a phonostage built-in, then you don't need a separate phonostage. The grounding terminal would also be located at the back. Phono stages which are built-in are usually for moving magnet (MM) cartridges.
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Feb 26, 2003 at 10:25 PM
Also locally available is Clearaudio's BASIC phono stage for $400 (siyempre, may tawad pa yan  ;D).  It can be used for both MM and MC cartridges.
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: iceman90a on Feb 27, 2003 at 01:13 PM
iceman90a-

Yes, you can use your AUX input. However, since it is a linestage, you have to hook-up a separate phonostage (like Musical Fidelity X-LP/LPS/LPS2). These separate phonostages have a terminal for grounding.

If your amp/AVR has a phonostage built-in, then you don't need a separate phonostage. The grounding terminal would also be located at the back. Phono stages which are built-in are usually for moving magnet (MM) cartridges.

thank you - so it's not going to be as simple (or as cheap) as i thought.

anyone with a cheap turntable and pre-amp out there? i just need a working set-up, need not be anywhere near audiophile (wag naman yung tatawanan ha). i just want to be able to listen to my dad's old records and find out if there is anything there worth listening to  ;D
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: Racio on Feb 27, 2003 at 01:43 PM
hi racio!

do you remember which branch of audiophile components carries the A11?

Ahoy tuff,

It's the branch at AliMall Cubao. Better get there ASAP 'coz the last time I checked, there were but a pair of 'em left.

btw, thanks again for helping me rediscover analog. the td-160 sings pretty well with the aurum alpha!

tuff

The pleasure's all mine tuff! I'm glad you're enjoying your analog rig. Count yourself in for yet another crazy adventure, one more shipmate in the endless search for long lost vinyl treasure troves. Best of luck to all of us then!  ;)
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Mar 02, 2003 at 04:46 PM
Hello iceman90a,

You could check out Sensible Audio at Makati Cinema Sqr.  There are cheap direct drive turntables there.  Also, you could check from time to time hyperaudio.  Sometimes he has cheap turntables for sale.

Don't worry, di ka tatawanan ng mga tao even if you have a cheap turntable.  Just align it properly, and for sure, ikaw ang tatawa sa saya.  :)

Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: iceman90a on Mar 02, 2003 at 08:15 PM
Hello iceman90a,

You could check out Sensible Audio at Makati Cinema Sqr.  There are cheap direct drive turntables there.  Also, you could check from time to time hyperaudio.  Sometimes he has cheap turntables for sale.

Don't worry, di ka tatawanan ng mga tao even if you have a cheap turntable.  Just align it properly, and for sure, ikaw ang tatawa sa saya.  :)



thank you very much for the input...

the search is on  ;D
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: Mika on Mar 04, 2003 at 04:09 AM
hi guys,

the sound leans more towards one (either left/right) channel. i just compensate by turning the balance knob when listening. is this an alignment problem? please post threads/sites on how to properly align a tt. i would appreciate it very much.

thanks  ;) :)

does a p-mount cartridge need aligning?

Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Mar 04, 2003 at 08:05 AM
Hello Mika,

Assuming that your cartridge is still OK, and that assuming all your other equipment does not have problems, there are various reasons for what you are experiencing:

1.  Your LP is worn out (laspag)  :(

2.  Your azimuth is out of alignment  :(

3.  Your tracking force is not set properly  :(


Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: Mika on Mar 05, 2003 at 10:50 PM
thanks m_shoe  ;)

i would look into all the things you've mentioned, hopefully i could trace the problem by trial and elimination.

mika   :)

... will mika ever race again  ??? (off-topic  ;D )
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: arnoldc on May 08, 2003 at 05:40 PM
so, who bought a new turntable lately?

anyone?  ;D
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on May 09, 2003 at 03:39 PM
....... or a new cartridge.......

....... or a new arm........
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: redkoji on May 14, 2003 at 12:07 PM
Is there still a demand for turn-table?

Whats your target price
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on May 14, 2003 at 04:24 PM
Yes there is definitely a demand for turntables!  :)

Although there are few audiophiles in the Philippines who have stuck it out with this old medium, a resurgence of new breed "HTphiles", now turned "2-channel philes" have come to know the superiority of this medium.

Target price?  Well, analog lovers have different budgets.  Lets just say there are still analog lovers who buy $10,000 cartridges.  :o
Title: Where to buy turntables here in MM?
Post by: denver on Jun 21, 2003 at 05:34 PM
Where can i buy turntables here in Metro Manila?
Title: Re:Where to buy turntables here in MM?
Post by: levi on Jun 21, 2003 at 09:25 PM
Where can i buy turntables here in Metro Manila?

Hi Denver, Welcome aboard,

    Please give us some details, budget, brand new or 2nd hand, high end or low end etc. You could start by giving Hyperaudio a call 8325710. he has some turntables for sale.

Levi
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Jun 21, 2003 at 11:40 PM
Yes!  :D

Another Turntable man!  :)

Yes, what your budget denver?
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: lazeeb0y on Jun 22, 2003 at 08:58 AM
hi guys. i have an old busted Technics turntable that i wanna revive so that i can play my records(mostly 80's/new wave!) again.

any suggestions where i can have it serviced?

thanks.  :)
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Jun 22, 2003 at 09:35 AM
Hello lazeeboy72,

You can try bringing your turntable to Hyperaudio.

Did you say New Wave?  You wana sell 'em?  ;)
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: lazeeb0y on Jun 23, 2003 at 12:58 AM
Hello lazeeboy72,

You can try bringing your turntable to Hyperaudio.

Did you say New Wave?  You wana sell 'em?  ;)

thanks for the tip. i'll try to get in touch with him one of these days. :)

i don't think i can sell my vinyls. although i have a lot of those songs already on cd, they kinda have a sentimental value for me.  used to be part of an obscure mobile during my boyish days(pun intended).   ;D

wow, i didn't even know you were into new wave too.
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: denver on Jun 24, 2003 at 12:39 PM
My budget is between 5 - 10t!  I saw a site from the internet that offers Sony turntable, is it available here locally?  Where is this Hyperaudio?
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: levi on Jun 24, 2003 at 10:54 PM
His name is Rene Rivo and his shop is in Makati at the back of Cash and Carry, Matanza street. He sells audio and video equipments. Just give him a call or you can send him a PM.
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: tatalope on Jun 30, 2003 at 05:00 PM
guys mgkano ba price range ng used thorens at oracle?
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Jun 30, 2003 at 05:32 PM
Used Thorens runs from P7.5T up to P20T, depending on condition, model, tonearm installed etc.
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: tatalope on Jul 01, 2003 at 09:48 AM
Used Thorens runs from P7.5T up to P20T, depending on condition, model, tonearm installed etc.


i thought it was a hi-end TT...is rek-o-cat (not sure of the spelling) a hi-end brand? do you have any list of hi-end TT's that are available here? i don't ave plans of buying i'm just researching more about TT's para dagdag kaalaman lng .. :D
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Jul 01, 2003 at 05:38 PM
Thorens does have its share of hi-end models.  The price range I gave are the ones locally available and 2nd-hand.  These are the TD 160, 165, 166 and earlier models.  These are very good entry-level belt-driven models.  :D

As to brand new hi-end brands available here, a friend of ours is the exclusive Philippine distributor of Clearaudio (Germany) and VPI (US) turntables and analog stuff.  :D
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: taz75 on Jul 31, 2003 at 02:39 PM
Hi!  anybody knows where I could purchase stylus for Sansui P2000?  

 :) :) :)
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: positive_noise on Jul 31, 2003 at 04:39 PM
Hi Bro,

In Audiophile they are still selling stylus there! But not sure for Sansui?! If in case Sansui is not available just replace it with another catridge & stylus set!

Orthofon is a good brand in stylus technology!  ;)

positive_noise.  ;D
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: taz75 on Jul 31, 2003 at 05:35 PM
Hi Bro,

In Audiophile they are still selling stylus there! But not sure for Sansui?! If in case Sansui is not available just replace it with another catridge & stylus set!

Orthofon is a good brand in stylus technology!  ;)

positive_noise.  ;D

thanks.   :)

but my TT is just the ordinary one. I don't think its possible.  :)
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: Vrion on Aug 05, 2003 at 10:53 AM
Makiki post na rin.  My father left me several LP collections which are on stock for years since his national FET stero broke down and no one in our place in Laguna knows how to fixed it.

A month ago while looking for some PC stuff at HMR I saw a JVC turn table which is tagged less than 1K   :o.  So out of curiosity how an LP sounds like, I bought the TT and hooked it in my HT receiver.  And great! my father's Polka na Dream Dancing LPs are working again, misty eyed pa mother ko while listening hehe.

 I know it's "tunog lata" for the analogue gurus here but I enjoyed it.   Cant describe the sound technically but I found it "mas buhay".  So it seems I'll be shifting a bit going to this analogue hobby. I'll be looking for an entry level tube amp, a better TT and probably a CD player.

To those who just want to try it, you might want to check out HMR.  Ingat lang baka ma hook kayo sa 2-channel gaya ko and most of the guys here...  ;D
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Aug 05, 2003 at 05:07 PM
"mas buhay"  :D

That's it!  :D

That's the magic of an analog front-end.

Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: fakelondongenius on Sep 24, 2003 at 02:22 AM
hello to all analogue junkies!

bago lang ako sa forum and i'm glad meron palang mga turntable friends dito :)

bilang palang mga plaka ko. i collect old electronic recordings, mga Switched on Bacharach, YMO, etc...

saan nga pala makakahanap ng mga belts dito sa manila? isa para sa BSR 20BP (15.2") tsaka Pioneer PL512 (25")?


Enjoy the Popcorn!
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: hyperaudio on Sep 24, 2003 at 11:00 AM
RAON (gonzalo puyat), downtown manila is still your best bet on finding those turntable belts. good luck!
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: fakelondongenius on Sep 25, 2003 at 01:25 AM
thank you Hyperaudio! :D

punta na ako bukas
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: hyperaudio on Sep 25, 2003 at 10:15 AM
don't forget to bring the worn-out belts (as sample). this will make it easy communicating with the store attendants there. glad to be of help!
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Dec 23, 2003 at 02:07 PM
So, anybody going to try out analog in 2004?  ::)

Next year will be a good year to go to analog because its the year of the monkey.......

Para atang walang connection yun ah.  ::) ;D

Anyway, ANALOG rules!  :D
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Dec 23, 2003 at 02:20 PM
So, anybody going to try out analog in 2004?  ::)

Next year will be a good year to go to analog because its the year of the monkey.......

Para atang walang connection yun ah.  ::) ;D

Anyway, ANALOG rules!  :D


msm, very much connected yan, hahaha!

i hope there's going to be an LP of spaghetti song and ocho-ocho, hehehe! 8)

Title: I'm a believer!!!!
Post by: iceman90a on Dec 27, 2003 at 08:32 AM
i was fortunate enough to be at Vintage Dog's house last night while he auditioned a pair of speakers...

sound was ok while we were listening to his Consonance CD player and the prototype of the 300b amp - but when he switched sources and played his turn table... MAN!!!! now that is good  :o

no wonder turn table guys keep on saying that analog is better...

partida daw - di pa yung high end na turn table ang gamit nya (which is really relative, low end to Sir VD is high end to me  :D )

(http://www.cuteful.hytekhosting.com/uploads/thorens.JPG)
Title: Re:I'm a believer!!!!
Post by: Superman on Dec 27, 2003 at 08:53 AM
i was fortunate enough to be at Vintage Dog's house last night while he auditioned a pair of speakers...

sound was ok while we were listening to his Consonance CD player and the prototype of the 300b amp - but when he switched sources and played his turn table... MAN!!!! now that is good  :o

no wonder turn table guys keep on saying that analog is better...

partida daw - di pa yung high end na turn table ang gamit nya (which is really relative, low end to Sir VD is high end to me  :D )

(http://www.cuteful.hytekhosting.com/uploads/thorens.JPG)


AMEN to that, pare!...if it's from V_D, it must be good (parang seiko films, hehehe!) 8)

Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: degro01 on Jan 07, 2004 at 09:07 AM
Hi Gurus!

Can I get a decent Turntable with only a 10K budget?  I'm planning to plug it in to my Marantz SR6300 which does not have a phono input.  That means I still have to buy a phonostage for it which I don't know how much.  If it turns out to be good, I might venture into tube amp and separate set of speakers.  

Sino bang magandang store na mageentertain sa tulad kong di pa masyadong marunong kumilatis ng magandang turntable.  Just like the others, I just want to play our old LP records.

Thanks!
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Jan 07, 2004 at 05:36 PM
Hi Gurus!

Can I get a decent Turntable with only a 10K budget?  I'm planning to plug it in to my Marantz SR6300 which does not have a phono input.  That means I still have to buy a phonostage for it which I don't know how much.  If it turns out to be good, I might venture into tube amp and separate set of speakers.  

Sino bang magandang store na mageentertain sa tulad kong di pa masyadong marunong kumilatis ng magandang turntable.  Just like the others, I just want to play our old LP records.

Thanks!


Try visiting Hyperaudio.  He has affordable and expensive tables that you may like.  :)

Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: degro01 on Jan 08, 2004 at 05:32 PM
Thanks!

Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: ESi on Jan 13, 2004 at 12:19 AM
I recently compared the ff:
SACD/CD hybrid: EVERY BREATH YOU TAKE: The Classics
                            VS
VINYL: SYNCHRONICITY

I used the CD tracks of the disc since I don't have an SACD player yet. And used two tracks: KING OF PAIN AND WRAPPED AROUND YOUR FINGER.

It was another eye opener.  :oThe vinyl was immediately clearer, cleaner and more palpable compared to the CD. Sting's voice was haunting in WRAPPED AROUND YOUR FINGER and the instruments was very well focused. I can't wait to compare it to the SACD version. If you got the goods try this at home...ITS REALLY EDUCATING!
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: bravoexo on Jan 13, 2004 at 01:20 AM
We've got a Goldstar(LG) component, tape, fm/am, eq, and Turntable in the living room...  and will revive it soon.  (Had to move it aside for the new RPTV).

Anyway, my father has a whole footlocker chest full of LP's stored.   Yep, he has a footlocker, iron clad one, on the foot of the master bedroom bed... talk about traditional.

Anyway, again...puro classical...and broadway... bought all the way from the 60's US.  Our only contribution in the modern era was the Michael Jackson Dangerous LP...  but I do love his Reader's Digest LP collections.

I was ordered to revive it anyway, by him.  Since he want to listen to DZRH again in the mornings... ngek.  Pero ngayon in 5.1... hmm...
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: losi_phile on Jan 14, 2004 at 11:53 PM
Just got hold of Technics SL-6 - Direct Drive and Programmable Turntable (out of a trade) which is a good turntable for newbies like me.  I'm using Sansui Alpha-607 Integrated Amp (1986 model) to listen to this turntable.

Where can I buy stylus brush and vinyl brush?  Is it safe to spray the stylus with contact cleaner?  Thanks for the help.
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Jan 15, 2004 at 08:44 AM
Just got hold of Technics SL-6 - Direct Drive and Programmable Turntable (out of a trade) which is a good turntable for newbies like me.  I'm using Sansui Alpha-607 Integrated Amp (1986 model) to listen to this turntable.

Where can I buy stylus brush and vinyl brush?  Is it safe to spray the stylus with contact cleaner?  Thanks for the help.

Contact Hyperaudio. He has some of 'em brushes and cleaners.  :)  Don't spray your stylus with contact cleaner. :(
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: losi_phile on Jan 15, 2004 at 08:51 AM
MSM,

Thanks a lot.

losi_phile
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: mixx on Jan 18, 2004 at 04:50 AM
ive got a pair of technics sl1200 (yung gamit ng mga djs)
and they're about 10yrs old using a shure stylus ive got some records also composed of mostly 80s and 90s ang gamit ko na preamp/mixer is numark 1775

iba talaga ang tunog ng analog buhay na buhay. mas mainit siya pag dating sa lower freq.
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: losi_phile on Jan 20, 2004 at 05:33 PM
Need some tips:

What does this "Stylus Cue-down position adjsutment screw"  on some linear tracking turntables do?

Thanks a lot.  
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: MiniCooper on Jan 22, 2004 at 11:32 AM
I have a basic Technics SL-BD20D with stock p-type cart.  

I am contemplating of changing the cart.  Can anyone recommend a certain brand/model?

thanks!
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: arnoldc on Jan 22, 2004 at 12:21 PM
minicooper, i like what you drive. get shure.
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: MiniCooper on Jan 22, 2004 at 12:34 PM
thanks! bro... :)

Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: losi_phile on Jan 22, 2004 at 01:17 PM
MiniCooper,

Here are some options:

1.  Audio Technica -  AT3842P
                                 AT316EP
                                AT92E

2.  Ortofon - OMP-3E
                    OMP-5E
                    OMP-10

3.  Shure - M92E (Universal Mount)

losi_phile
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: MiniCooper on Jan 31, 2004 at 09:27 AM
thank your for all your inputs... :)

I'll keep this list and shop around...  
I saw Shure's M92E last weekend... baka kunin ko na lang yun..
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: Qman on Jan 31, 2004 at 09:38 PM
shoe_maker/turn table gurus,

Me nakita kasi akong turn table dito na vintage, iyong me horn sa ibabaw.

pede ba iyon ikabit sa mga amp, parang stand alone iyon diba speaker bale ang horn na iyon.  Tapos parang me handle doon na iniikot.  Nakita ko lang pero di ko na-inspect maigi around 120USD ata ang turing sakin a month ago.
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Jan 31, 2004 at 09:45 PM
Wow! :D

Kung orig yan, $120 is very cheap.  Matagal na akong naghahanap niyan dito sa Pinas from my lolos, lolas, titas, titos, and any old person I know. :)  Very collectible na yan.  

Dito sa Pinas, the small versions can cost around P25T. >:(   The big versions can even go as high as P50T. >:(

Check mo lang baka "replica" na lang yan.  Ang mura kasi eh.

Its not worth running that into an amplifier. Di talaga maganda tumunog yan.  Habol lang talaga dyan is its collectibility.  

Kumbaga sa kotse, its useless to put a Ferrari engine in a Ford Model T. ;)



Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: Qman on Jan 31, 2004 at 10:19 PM
Wow! :D

Kung orig yan, $120 is very cheap.  Matagal na akong naghahanap niyan dito sa Pinas from my lolos, lolas, titas, titos, and any old person I know. :)  Very collectible na yan.  

Dito sa Pinas, the small versions can cost around P25T. >:(   The big versions can even go as high as P50T. >:(

Check mo lang baka "replica" na lang yan.  Ang mura kasi eh.

Its not worth running that into an amplifier. Di talaga maganda tumunog yan.  Habol lang talaga dyan is its collectibility.  

Kumbaga sa kotse, its useless to put a Ferrari engine in a Ford Model T. ;)

idol tenk you sa reply,

di ko lang sure kung replica iyon.

pero nang tinanong ko iyong pana (indiano) na tindero kung nagana eh ika oo daw hehe di ko lang alam di naman pede test doon dahil tindahan ng mga memento iyon, bale tsek ko na rin pag pauwi nako.
 
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: MiniCooper on Feb 01, 2004 at 01:35 AM
shoe_maker/turn table gurus,

Me nakita kasi akong turn table dito na vintage, iyong me horn sa ibabaw.

pede ba iyon ikabit sa mga amp, parang stand alone iyon diba speaker bale ang horn na iyon.  Tapos parang me handle doon na iniikot.  Nakita ko lang pero di ko na-inspect maigi around 120USD ata ang turing sakin a month ago.

Hi Qman, nakapag-padala na kami ng ganyan sa manila... one with the brass horn and others that are semi portable (you open the cabinet to listen to the music)--early 1900 era.  

There are no electronic outputs it is pure analog/mechanical kasi the sound is generated by a moving diaphragm and amplified by the horn.  It came with 78 rpm records and I tell you... it gives you the creeps when you listen to it.  It is like going back in time.  

That is the going rate here in the US if it is in good working order.  Victorola units are the better one... dapat lang my kasamang needles --if not pakong bakya will work  ;)

Sana you can test it... crank the handle a few times and wait for the record to spin and set the needle..
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: Qman on Feb 01, 2004 at 01:55 AM
minicooper,
pansin ko rin walang kabitan ng kable sa likod.  Kya lang di ko sigurado kung replica ito.

paano ba malalaman kung replica ito, sa ganoong presyo okey na baga iyon kahit na replica madali lang naman siguro ma refurbish iyon.

Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: MiniCooper on Feb 01, 2004 at 02:10 AM
minicooper,
pansin ko rin walang kabitan ng kable sa likod.  Kya lang di ko sigurado kung replica ito.

paano ba malalaman kung replica ito, sa ganoong presyo okey na baga iyon kahit na replica madali lang naman siguro ma refurbish iyon.


the important thing is that the wind-up mechanism  and diaphragm is working. Baka lang kasi mahirap i-repair sa atin. I guess you can notice a replica from the cabinet casing.  The wood should look old and not new.  Usually there is a brass badge attached to the side that shows the brand.

try to haggle... malay mo ibigay ng mas-mura. good luck!
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: MiniCooper on Feb 01, 2004 at 02:20 AM
qman,  here are samples... hindi ito yung unit namin, kamukha lang

Victor
(http://images.snapfish.com/33987%3A4323232%7Ffp58%3Dot%3E2329%3D459%3D%3C55%3DXROQDF%3E23234%3A24%3A9235ot1lsi)

brass badge
(http://images.snapfish.com/33987%3A4323232%7Ffp58%3Dot%3E2329%3D459%3D%3C55%3DXROQDF%3E23234%3A24%3A9237ot1lsi)

hope it helps...
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: Qman on Feb 01, 2004 at 03:50 AM
yan nga iyon minicooper, pero di ko napansin iyong mga metal plates na naka-attached sa wood na design at saka iyong label kung anong brand.

anyways thanks hope it's still there at matawaran pa.  
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: halvert on Feb 02, 2004 at 03:42 PM
saan ba merong needle for my mom's old sanyo record player. nagpunta kasi ako sa deeco, wala daw stock.
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Feb 02, 2004 at 06:38 PM
You can try going to an "Audiophile" branch.  They still sell Shure cartridges.  :)
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: av_phile1 on Feb 03, 2004 at 09:42 AM
I think there's also an audiophile store if not mistaken at Makati CInema Square 1st lavel that sells studio professional equipment and carry audio-technica cartridges.
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: edboy7 on Feb 04, 2004 at 05:20 PM
saw a sony turntable direct drive in a surplus shop in monumento [email protected] clean and well maintained :)..forgot the model though ???
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: taruc on Feb 05, 2004 at 12:58 PM
straight arm ba o s type?
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: losi_phile on Feb 05, 2004 at 01:09 PM
Hi, MiniCooper,

San store mo nakita ang Shure M92E?  May stock pa bang available and how much?

Thanks a lot.

losi_phile
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: edboy7 on Feb 05, 2004 at 02:13 PM
straight arm ba o s type?

Hi taruc,...cant really rem e :(...is that a good buy ba? :D
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: MiniCooper on Feb 06, 2004 at 07:56 AM
Hi, MiniCooper,

San store mo nakita ang Shure M92E?  May stock pa bang available and how much?

Thanks a lot.

losi_phile

I saw the M92E in J&R New York.  They are selling it for $40. mahal ba?
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: losi_phile on Feb 06, 2004 at 08:56 AM
MiniCooper,

Sorry, I thought you're here in Manila.  It expensive nga diyan,  the M92E here only costs around $12 (kaya lang out-of-stock na) and the M104E costs around $19 (was able to get one na and the good news is I can use the N92E stylus for my M104E cartridge).  Thanks anyway.

God Bless.

losi_phile
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: marty_e on Feb 06, 2004 at 09:55 AM
I think what's available in Audiophile Components either MCS or EDSA is the M44G P1,800, M35S- ~P1,500 and the White Label w headshell for ~P3,500. The V15VxMR was about ~P11k. No stock of M44-7. Try Stanton  8)
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: taruc on Feb 06, 2004 at 11:57 AM
sony... not too bad for 1500, mukha bang bago?
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: Angelface666 on Feb 06, 2004 at 09:00 PM
Turntable Gurus!!
I have a pioneer turntable but the belt is already broken, saan ba ako makakabili ng belt? Halos nalibot ko na kasi mga electronics shops sa Raon wala pa rin akong makita. Pls post nyo nman kung saan meron mga turntable belts. Thanks
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: ESi on Feb 06, 2004 at 11:34 PM
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Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: taruc on Feb 07, 2004 at 05:47 AM
Ok yang turntable mo, magkano score mo dyan?
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: isak0411 on Feb 07, 2004 at 08:38 AM
Turntable Gurus!!
I have a pioneer turntable but the belt is already broken, saan ba ako makakabili ng belt? Halos nalibot ko na kasi mga electronics shops sa Raon wala pa rin akong makita. Pls post nyo nman kung saan meron mga turntable belts. Thanks

mag tanong ka marami dyan, nakatago lang (bring ur old belt) :o

doc, esi
nice table! 8)  bili bili na kayo dyan  ;D
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: akyatbundok on Feb 11, 2004 at 01:51 PM
what do you guys think of the Numark TTX1?  seems to be designed for DJ's but i wonder how it would do in home audio?  saw it at 5th ave yesterday kinda expensive at 35k but US street price is below 20k (definitely cheaper than Technics SL1200)... interchangeable tonearms (both straight & S-type included), digital counter and uhh SPDIF digital outs?!?  

Review here: Numark TTX1 (http://www.sqratchattack.com/reviews/TTX1_Review.html)

also acquired an old beat up SL1200mk2 yesterday that's why i got interested in the TTX1 w/c looks cool & has modern features... but have enough dough only for this 2nd hand unit... the dust cover is missing and the needle is missing in the M55 cart, but other than the dirt and a few minor scratches, its still rock solid... how do you restore the aluminum casing, would metal polish do it?
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: stereophile on Feb 13, 2004 at 10:14 AM
akyatbundok-
Your 1200mk2 will run circles around that Numark. The 1200 is still the choice table of DJs. You can get the replacement N55E stylus from Audiophile in Pioneer St or Makati Cinema Sq. for P570.

Just clean the surface with a soft cloth moistened with soap and water. Anything stronger and you might rub out the letterings. A 2nd hand 1200 is usually well worn, but still keeps everything in sync. The front right portion of its top is usually worn from cueing. That's ok. I've seen some 1200's wherein the surface has been repainted. Ughhh...sacrilege! Just leave it the way it is. It is a 1200mk2 afterall. Enjoy the music. You have THE 'TABLE of all turntables. Many audiophiles are dying to own a 1200mk2. The mk1 was so-so. It's the mk2 version which put Technics on the forefront of professional turntables.

I used to own a beat up 1200mk2 also, till it went out of sync and died...  :(  May it rest in peace(or pieces). I was able to get a 1200Mk3 after! 8) Yes! This is one 'table I will never let go off. It's a keeper. I use a Shure M44-7cart & M44 stylus. The N55E is the cheaper replacement stylus.

Be proud, akyatbundok. Join the TAE club & UTOT club at www.wiredstate.com. Check out the Analog forum.
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: akyatbundok on Feb 13, 2004 at 11:40 AM
hey thanks stereophile, the owner said he was a former mobile DJ so i guess its been thru a lot... so that's why he says he's "heartbroken" for letting go of this baby... i didn't quite understand it when i first saw its condition, i almost didn't buy it coz it looked so beat up... but disregarding the dirt/dust & scratches and some missing parts, it has a very heavy & solid feel that is very different from a CD deck... is the chassis made of steel?  the aluminum cover also seems kinda thick... its my first time to have a turntable thanks to you guys... i was contemplating on a 2nd hand CD player but decided to give this a try since it costs about the same or cheaper.
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: isak0411 on Feb 14, 2004 at 09:17 AM
akyat,
you have sl1200?  contact me if you need parts
hehehehehe ;D














Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: akyatbundok on Feb 16, 2004 at 06:20 PM
sir bobby, just got me a N55 needle... mas maganda daw ba ang M44-7 kaysa M55?  yun din ni-recommend sakin nung previous owner... played it for the first time this weekend with new wave, ayos na ayos!!
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: Narayan on Feb 16, 2004 at 07:33 PM
sir bobby, just got me a N55 needle... mas maganda daw ba ang M44-7 kaysa M55?  yun din ni-recommend sakin nung previous owner... played it for the first time this weekend with new wave, ayos na ayos!!


congrats bro on your new toy-astig yan nakuha mo  :D one of these days, might try again my old luxman turntable hidden in a cabinet. it may require a new stylus too though. not sure kung available pa ???
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: isak0411 on Feb 17, 2004 at 09:06 AM
sir bobby, just got me a N55 needle... mas maganda daw ba ang M44-7 kaysa M55?  yun din ni-recommend sakin nung previous owner... played it for the first time this weekend with new wave, ayos na ayos!!

akyat,
kung ayos na ayos na start collecting lps, yan ang fun part of having a turntable but 1st thing 1st mag member muna ng tae,utot club ...... :o
isak0411 ;D
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: akyatbundok on Feb 19, 2004 at 11:31 AM
hehehe  ;D ;D ;D ;D yun pala ibig sabihin ng TAE at UTOT club.  ;)
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: redkoji on Feb 20, 2004 at 05:51 PM
Hey anyone here interested for a group buy of NAD or Sherwood turntable...we could arrange one.


If interested just contact us directly
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: Vrion on Feb 23, 2004 at 10:07 AM
Hey anyone here interested for a group buy of NAD or Sherwood turntable...we could arrange one.


If interested just contact us directly

Hmmnn..  What models do they have ba?  And what are the rice range?
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: losi_phile on Feb 23, 2004 at 01:12 PM
Sirs:

I have two direct drive, linear tracking turntables (SL-10 and SL-DL1) which need repairs.  Where can I send them for repair?  Thanks a lot in advance.

losi_phile
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: av_phile1 on Feb 23, 2004 at 04:32 PM
Medyo mahirap makakita ng repair shop who can do turntables, much more direct-drives, even more so for  tangential trackers.  You could bring them to the basement of Makati Cinema Square where I saw some dealers of turntables, i thing fronting Sensible Audio.  They can either do it or recommend one.  
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: redkoji on Feb 23, 2004 at 05:13 PM
NAD turntable....check this out

http://www.nadelectronics.com/reviews/533-pp1-1098_framset.htm



Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: akyatbundok on Feb 23, 2004 at 05:42 PM
sir, which part of the turntable has the most effect on the sound quality?

- cartridge
- turntable
- phono stage

sorry if this has been asked before, i didn't find it while browsing...
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: av_phile1 on Feb 23, 2004 at 06:17 PM
ALL of the above,

You forgot the Tonearm.

The cartridge can be perfect, but if the tonearm  + cartridge interaction is not, you get problems.

The cartridge and tonearm can be perfect but if the turntable has defective motor, you get rumble noise that totally cancels the cartridge + tonearm advantage.

The TT mechanicals can be perfect but if the electronics courstesy of the phono EQ preamp is so much as not properly grounded, you will hear all HUM and little else.  

Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: nels76 on Feb 23, 2004 at 07:08 PM
Just like to share...

We had a turntable before. Brand is Grundig. I still remember my dad using that turntable to play his LP's from Beatles, Rey Valera, Pilita Corrales, "Stars on 45". It was bought mga late 70's daw (2nd hand). I don't know wala pa ko malay noon.
Until it conked out during the late 80's. Hindi na napagawa. Wala daw piyesa.

You know what amazed me? To find Technics and Numark Turntables in the mid to the late 90's look the same as our Grundig Turntable in the late 70's.

Modern Looking in the 70's age.  

Actually it's not a turntable per se.

It is a "compact component system" - with tuner and cassette deck in one. I did not know what part had been damaged. But it went to many repair centers and was not able to be fixed. Until my dad decided to dispose it in the early 90's.
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: redkoji on Feb 24, 2004 at 06:27 PM
Grundig was a fine name on Audio equipment...until it was bought out by Philips...and during its golden age...B&O can't match its design because its highly stylish and contemporary.

Sayang nga lang....the brand now is nearing its death.
We don't know if the German government can save it, after they re-purchase it from Philips.


Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: stereophile on Mar 03, 2004 at 06:03 PM
The Goldring GR-1 has the same features as the NAD 533 ttable save for a few cosmetic changes to the plinth. They both use the Elektra 'cart!
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: redkoji on Mar 05, 2004 at 06:02 PM
Last call for those interested to buy NAD Turntable....by Monday we are going to place our order for March and APril...so those who are interested to get one, please e-mail us on or before monday, so that before mid-april nasa inyo yun unit.
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: av_phile1 on Mar 05, 2004 at 06:08 PM
Grundig was a fine name on Audio equipment...until it was bought out by Philips...and during its golden age...B&O can't match its design because its highly stylish and contemporary.

Sayang nga lang....the brand now is nearing its death.
We don't know if the German government can save it, after they re-purchase it from Philips.


I agree. I used to marvel at our neigbor's large Grundig shortwave/Am/FM radio.  I didn't know they also make turntables.
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: redkoji on Mar 05, 2004 at 06:13 PM
grundig right now, market the inter-active t.v. which know HIGH CLASS hotel are using right now.

wherein you could place your order using the t.v
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: Narayan on Mar 05, 2004 at 07:52 PM
I agree. I used to marvel at our neigbor's large Grundig shortwave/Am/FM radio.  I didn't know they also make turntables.




back during the golden days of radiowealth of the guevarra family, they used grundigs for their top models of console stereos
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: nels76 on Mar 08, 2004 at 12:25 PM
Wow.

Ok pala talaga GRUNDIG.

That time marami nga nagsasabi na maganda nga daw tumunog GRUNDIG namin especially if we had visitors.

They were amazed. If I remember it right, it was connected to a DAI-ICHI Floorstander.
 


Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: akyatbundok on Mar 11, 2004 at 02:00 PM
my dirty, beat-up and indestructible Technics SL1200mk2.

its not much to look at with all the dirt, but once you lift it and get a feel of the gears, you know it can outlast your next 5 CD players.

(http://203.131.66.146:8080/ttt1.jpg)
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Mar 11, 2004 at 03:03 PM
my dirty, beat-up and indestructible Technics SL1200mk2.

its not much to look at with all the dirt, but once you lift it and get a feel of the gears, you know it can outlast your next 5 CD players.

(http://203.131.66.146:8080/ttt1.jpg)

GREAT GEAR BRO!...tagal na ba 'to sa 'yo??? thanks! 8)
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: akyatbundok on Mar 11, 2004 at 03:16 PM
superman, not really i got it from a mobile DJ that's why its so beat up ;)
i almost didnt buy it but thru the advice of the TAE/UTOT members i'm glad i did 8)
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: arnoldc on Mar 11, 2004 at 05:13 PM
you made the right decision, if i was in your shoes, i'd do the same. congrats pare. pero kung ayaw mo na nyan....  ;D
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: akyatbundok on Mar 11, 2004 at 05:36 PM
thanks pre, now i really have to hunt for LP's... i'm surprised almost everybody i know have an older relative, a dad or uncle, who has a stash of LP's thats just gathering dust... trying to offer bote-dyaryo disposal services for P10/ea hehe ;D.
Title: Re:Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Mar 11, 2004 at 08:52 PM
Great purchase akyatbundok. :)

The SL1200 is indeed the mother of "Professional" turntables. ;)

You are now a proud member of TAE Club and UTOT. ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 14, 2004 at 10:48 AM
Guys,

Just got hold of our old turntable i check the net mukhang Lenco L75 meron pa kayang needle available or any possible replacement??
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: av_phile1 on Apr 14, 2004 at 12:20 PM
Try to research on the Lenco tonearm specifications and the recommended cartridge weight and stylus pressure and overhang limits.    Offhand, I would say an audio-technica cartridge and stylus can serve as a replacement.  I think I saw some posters on this brand at the Audiophile shop at MCS.  Also, if this TT is belt-driven see if you can replace the belt with an exact replacement or a decent one.  Make sure the belt has an even surface and homogenously thick.  Uneven surface will induce wow and flutter.   Thin belts will increase rumble noise. 
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: stereophile on Apr 19, 2004 at 02:06 AM
Guys,

Just got hold of our old turntable i check the net mukhang Lenco L75 meron pa kayang needle available or any possible replacement??

Why don't you PM M_Shoe_Maker. I believe he used to own a Lenco at one time. I'm sure he will be able to help you not only with cart choices but also setting up your 'table. Happy spinning! O0
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 19, 2004 at 10:17 AM
Avphile and Stereophile,

Thanks will try to check out possible replacement parts..
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: stereophile on Apr 19, 2004 at 11:23 AM
Francine & Hans- If things don't work out, you can always source out a 2nd Hand TECHNICS ttable, or if budget allows, a new entry level turntable like the Project Debut or Goldring GR-1. Both of these new 'tables are sold with a cartridge.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: MiniCooper on May 08, 2004 at 09:46 AM
my newest addition... yamaha pf-1000  ;D ;D ;D

the technics table (SLBD-20D) will have to take a backseat muna...

(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0SACWAqUT!5uv81h!kH6x6s6!K!UrOXf*wpzBY4aYtDtZlilaj940Ofmq7NQXotB1eLUUnMxKmB3ugiyQbCNyCMN53vT*JPkNOqD3i6WVIWpHAAAAynITAg/115-1561_IMG.JPG?dc=4675471267855019776)

(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0SAAAAKkT95yv81h!kH6x6i8KGKM5L!Fpuz!*vz82C5tC54LIkYgrjJTjoXUDpPlsqyeq5Lm529BjnEpsIu3Mm1Rq7uw9cNz45odpnnNbydQlAAAAAgAAAA/115-1565_IMG.JPG?dc=4675471267858969555)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: bravoexo on May 11, 2004 at 02:42 PM
MiniCooper,

Where did you get that?  Ganda ah...  How much?

Are you selling that technics turntable?

To Stanton users,

mayroon ba rito available?  May distributor daw sila rito (actually just a few blocks from my place yung address, pero they haven't replied to my email)...  magkano kaya yung mga STR80 - 150 series nila rito?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: bravoexo on May 13, 2004 at 04:52 PM
Guys,

Forerunner just emailed back, they have available in stock, STR8-30B packages for 12,800.  Is this ok, kahit analog out siya.  Or should I look for the digital turntables of Stanton?

Thanks in advance,
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: MiniCooper on May 14, 2004 at 10:45 AM
MiniCooper,

Where did you get that?  Ganda ah...  How much?

Are you selling that technics turntable?

bravoexo,  thanks!  i got the table here in NJ.  It's a mid-80's flagship table... last production reference table ng yamaha noon.  The dealer gave it to me for a sweet deal.  I only intended to replace the p-mount cart of the technics to a grado (green).  After 6 weeks of waiting the order came in and it was the wrong mount-- standard.  :(  Nahiya sa akin kaya parang presyo na lang nang cart ang bigay sa akin.  I bought the cart na rin for spare.  ;D

I still have the entry level technics (SLBD-20D).  medyo mahirap yata ipadala sa Pinas.  baka mahal ang shipment.

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: levi on May 14, 2004 at 10:29 PM
Coops,

   Iuwi mo yan para sa akin. Isama mo na yung VDH ko na interconnect. thanks hehehe

Levi
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on May 15, 2004 at 08:42 AM
my newest addition... yamaha pf-1000  ;D ;D ;D

the technics table (SLBD-20D) will have to take a backseat muna...

(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0SACWAqUT!5uv81h!kH6x6s6!K!UrOXf*wpzBY4aYtDtZlilaj940Ofmq7NQXotB1eLUUnMxKmB3ugiyQbCNyCMN53vT*JPkNOqD3i6WVIWpHAAAAynITAg/115-1561_IMG.JPG?dc=4675471267855019776)

This looks familiar. I saw a prototype Yamaha turntable similar to this in a Tokyo audiophile shop back in the early '80s when I was student. But it had a black stone platter, roughly 2 inches thick, and the rest of the utrnatable housing in Italian marble. Made the Delphi Oracle appear like a kid's toy. Was told it weighed about half a ton.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: kenchix1 on May 17, 2004 at 03:39 PM
Guys,

Just got hold of our old turntable i check the net mukhang Lenco L75 meron pa kayang needle available or any possible replacement??

This TT is cool, made in switzerland and it has the 78 and 16 speed aside from the 45 and 33. I saw one of this turntable from a friend and tested it with shure cart when I to picked up the Luxman PD-277 turntable from him where i use the shure cart that I bought.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: marty_e on May 17, 2004 at 03:49 PM
Excellent resource/discussion on Lenco L75's.

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?eanlg&1075644493&openflup&27&4#27

http://www.stefanopasini.it/My%20Turntables-Lenco-Thumbs.htm

I too have one of those but have yet to re-plinth, re-arm it.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: MiniCooper on May 18, 2004 at 08:11 AM
Coops,

   Iuwi mo yan para sa akin. Isama mo na yung VDH ko na interconnect. thanks hehehe

Levi

Levi,  the technics is way too entry level for your taste.  he he he.... ;)  Pre, this new table really rocks!

btw,  I just added a parasound p/ph100 phono preamp.  It's a lot better that than the onboard pre-amp of the yammy.  next project... dedicated audio AMP!  can't wait to get my hands on the tono preamp. wifey will bring it home for me in June.   ;)

let me know kung magkano ang budget for the the VDH cables?  I noticed that it is cheaper there in Manila.  Saw some folks in wiredstate sell for 1.8k.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: stereophile on May 18, 2004 at 09:08 AM
levi,
Bro', the analog bug has really bitten you! O0 More power to you! (and more LPs!)

You really can't go wrong with a Technics. But I thought you own a  Technics TTable alredi? Are you planning to mix?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: levi on May 19, 2004 at 11:30 PM
Actually no time to use my whole system including the HT. Out of town project ko so I go home very late. Its been a while I havent used my tube amp. Kung nakuha ko lang yung 1000 pcs of imported records. Sayang talaga!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Cosmo on May 21, 2004 at 02:02 PM

bravoexo,  thanks!  i got the table here in NJ.  It's a mid-80's flagship table... last production reference table ng yamaha noon.  The dealer gave it to me for a sweet deal.  I only intended to replace the p-mount cart of the technics to a grado (green).  After 6 weeks of waiting the order came in and it was the wrong mount-- standard.  :(  Nahiya sa akin kaya parang presyo na lang nang cart ang bigay sa akin.  I bought the cart na rin for spare.  ;D

I still have the entry level technics (SLBD-20D).  medyo mahirap yata ipadala sa Pinas.  baka mahal ang shipment.


baka kung san pa mapunta yung turntable, ship mo na yan dito sa kin!!!! I found a way para makapag internet!! I used my  t610 as a modem/phone to connect to the internet, galing talaga ng ericsson!!! will call you this weekend!!! ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: bravoexo on Jun 14, 2004 at 07:56 PM
Finally got a Panasonic SL-JR50 automatic turntable from Spike666, intially found problems - turns out the low output he was talking about is because the needle was bent all the way to the opposite direction... sheez.  I tried to bend it back, but to no avail as it broke.  So I bought a Shure M92E as a replacement cartridge... with my sis's headphone amp and combined with my HK AVR330... whoa!!!  Ang lakas!  Ang ganda na ng tunog!!   Tried it first with my dad's Platter's LP.

Next up, getting a NAD PP-2 phono stage, and some LP cleaning materials or so...  Unless I find an MF X-LP for under 10k, I might stick with my sis's head amp for a little bit until I get a NAD PP-2 or something from the US.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: skramm on Jun 15, 2004 at 05:21 PM
you could also brew a DIY record cleaning solution of your own as the branded LP cleaning kits may cost  :o
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: MiniCooper on Jun 15, 2004 at 10:31 PM
Finally got a Panasonic SL-JR50 automatic turntable from Spike666, intially found problems - turns out the low output he was talking about is because the needle was bent all the way to the opposite direction... sheez.  I tried to bend it back, but to no avail as it broke.  So I bought a Shure M92E as a replacement cartridge... with my sis's headphone amp and combined with my HK AVR330... whoa!!!  Ang lakas!  Ang ganda na ng tunog!!   Tried it first with my dad's Platter's LP.

Next up, getting a NAD PP-2 phono stage, and some LP cleaning materials or so...  Unless I find an MF X-LP for under 10k, I might stick with my sis's head amp for a little bit until I get a NAD PP-2 or something from the US.

hey bravoexo,  i suggest you go for a parasound p/ph100 or the project phono box.  They are the same price point but outperforms the NAD PP-2.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: bravoexo on Jun 16, 2004 at 07:26 AM
Thanks guys.  I haven't heard from redkoji about the pre-order of the NAD PP-2 so I might as well hunt for  the parasound ph100 or pro-ject phono box in the US, since I'll be going there soon.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: jerix on Jun 21, 2004 at 03:16 PM
my receiver has no PHONO IN, but it has AUX IN---can i use the AUX IN for the turntable? thnx ::)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: iceman90a on Jun 21, 2004 at 03:20 PM
my receiver has no PHONO IN, but it has AUX IN---can i use the AUX IN for the turntable? thnx ::)

kailangan mo pa ng ground connection bro, di pwede kung wala unless pareho ng mga bagong turntable na wala nang ground wire - pero dapat sa phono in pa rin nakakabit...

ano ba mga lp mo? wag ka na mag plaka - kunin ko na lang yan :D he he he - joke lang
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: jerix on Jun 21, 2004 at 04:44 PM
huh ganun ba?  akala ko pwedeng sa aux lang, dami pa palang requirements--  :-\ me sampu yata akong old LPs on my possession bro. though there are still some in the province -- ill check the titles..

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on Jun 21, 2004 at 05:08 PM
my receiver has no PHONO IN, but it has AUX IN---can i use the AUX IN for the turntable? thnx ::)

Puwede mong isaksak yan sa AUX ng receiver mo, pero hindi mo maririnig ang tunog. Ang solusyon mo, bumili ka ng surplus amp, siguradong may phono in 'yan. Kahit subukan mo muna yung pinakamura, mga 50wpc, siguro ibibigay yan ng P1.5K hanggang P2K. Kung less than 10 ang LPs mo at hindi naman collectors' items (i.e., may CD versions na) ibenta mo na lang ang turntable with the LPs baka may mga interesado dito sa forum.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: jerix on Jun 22, 2004 at 08:51 AM
Sandawa,

thnks for the info-- i have another component with a PHONO input i might as well use this-- then from the component's AUDIO OUT, pasok ko sa AUX ng receiver -- pwede na kaya ito?  ::) thnks in advance. ;D

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: iceman90a on Jun 22, 2004 at 09:28 AM
pwede yan - lalabas na phonostage lang yung naunang component :) wag mo lang kabitan ng speakers
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: jcob on Jul 05, 2004 at 12:21 PM
mga sirs and guru,

question lang po. I have an old AIWA  turntable kasi which was never used. this came with the AIWA mini compo noon ( I think this is almost 12 years old). The mini compo was the only one utilized since noong mga 1990 wala na yatang LP's, so itinago na lang yung TT.

the TT looks brand new pa. the part were the needle is place has a plastic cover to protect it i just don't know kung okay pa.

question is can i connect it to my NAD receiver (T752 - no phono input).
i also notice that the connector of the TT  is flat ribbon not the RCA type that I usually see on ordinary TT.

hope you could help.

thanks

jcob
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Audioboy on Jul 05, 2004 at 12:31 PM
mga sirs and guru,

question lang po. I have an old AIWA  turntable kasi which was never used. this came with the AIWA mini compo noon ( I think this is almost 12 years old). The mini compo was the only one utilized since noong mga 1990 wala na yatang LP's, so itinago na lang yung TT.

the TT looks brand new pa. the part were the needle is place has a plastic cover to protect it i just don't know kung okay pa.

question is can i connect it to my NAD receiver (T752 - no phono input).
i also notice that the connector of the TT  is flat ribbon not the RCA type that I usually see on ordinary TT.

hope you could help.

thanks

jcob

you cant connect that to your NAD T752 unless your AIWA has built in phono stage.

if the connector is flat ribbon, have it converted into RCA type.

may phono in ba yung aiwa compo nyo? if yes, di talaga pwede kabit sa NAD.

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: jcob on Jul 05, 2004 at 03:45 PM
Sir,

Meron po Phono input yung Aiwa compo. Package kasi sya. So wala na pala talagang silbi yung Turntable. Sayang naman kasi parang bagong bago pa (bagong luma nga lang).

Subukan ko rin if I can use the Aiwa compo to be the Phono pre-amp.

thanks sir...

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Jul 05, 2004 at 04:00 PM
bro, you can try selling it here...dami interested with analog these days...let us know, baka we can help you (either hook it up or sell it)...thanks! 8)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: jcob on Jul 05, 2004 at 04:56 PM
sir, actually i'm willing to spent a little just to use the turntable. just want to know kung pwede ipa convert yung flat ribbon to rca or whatever. then i'll just buy a phono pre-amp maybe. pwede ba yung nandun sa phasetron? i saw one kasi there.

by the way wala ba talagang power source yung Turntable. yung flat ribbon lang kasi nakikita ko eh.

i noticed nga that there are lots of people here in pinoydvd and wiredstate who wants to hear music from LPs. i'm intrigue and at the same time curious on how it sounds, that's why I want to set-up also. my wife is begining to think that i'm crazy. kasi turntable naman daw ngayon then tube amp, sabi parang paurong daw ang mga gusto ko plus the music that i listen to now are oldies daw. well the good part is that she knows what i'm busy for at kung ano ang pinagkakaabalahan.

ot na yata a.  so mga guru and sirs help naman. and can i also join some of your sessions para makarinig naman ako ng analog and tube gears. just to experience ba.

thanks...



Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: arnoldc on Jul 05, 2004 at 05:19 PM
yang mga flat cable na yan ay the "bus connectors" nung unang panahon, sikat sa mga mini compo yan.

the power may also come from the flat cable, you have to find out kung DC yan o AC. kung AC eh madali, kung DC you need to know ilang volts to power the motor, and probably yung mga wall wart eh pwede na. you can also make a decent power supply later on.

turntables simply need a L+ R+ and L- R- plus ground, so your aiwa tt can be salvaged to become a standalone tt.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: jcob on Jul 05, 2004 at 05:48 PM
Thanks sir arnoldc. maybe i can figure if its AC or DC but the L+ R+ and L- R-, i'm not sure. by the way is this the Left and Rigth channel.

also, how would I know if its MM or MC (tama ba yung term ko?). may effect ba ito? does it matter? kung ma convert ko na ba sya, can i hook it directly to any phono preamp?

thanks.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: aikigrappler on Jul 05, 2004 at 07:48 PM
hey guys, na inspire naman ako sa thread niyo na revive yong mga old 80's LPs ko.I have a Sony PS-X35 turntable, it came with the sony hi fi system way back then.Sinong kilala niyo na nag refurbish ng defective turntables?I think that there is something wrong with the balance and motor, rotation?Not really knowledgeable about turntables.If repairing it is going to be affordable, I'd go for it like what jcob said cause I think you can get a 2nd hand turntable for around P3k.Right?Help. ;D Been dreaming about listening to my old LPs again.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Aug 10, 2004 at 06:02 PM
How much would a turntable cost?  say the NAD 533, Project Debut or the Goldring GR1
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: levi on Aug 11, 2004 at 02:38 AM
I just got a GR1. Its around 16T. Its a lotter better than my Technics.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: bayonic on Aug 11, 2004 at 08:30 AM
I just got a GR1. Its around 16T. Its a lotter better than my Technics.

Hi Levi,
Is that price for a brand-new GR1 and if so where di you purchase it  ?  I'm looking at a brand new ProJect Debut II which sells for the equivalent of 13K php.



thanks
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Audioboy on Aug 11, 2004 at 09:17 AM


Hi Levi,
Is that price for a brand-new GR1 and if so where di you purchase it  ?  I'm looking at a brand new ProJect Debut II which sells for the equivalent of 13K php.



thanks

watt hifi sells project TT. dont know though if they have Debut II.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: marty_e on Aug 11, 2004 at 09:59 AM
Sonny carries ProJect. Call The Home Theater.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: odyopayl on Aug 11, 2004 at 01:04 PM
sir, actually i'm willing to spent a little just to use the turntable. just want to know kung pwede ipa convert yung flat ribbon to rca or whatever. then i'll just buy a phono pre-amp maybe. pwede ba yung nandun sa phasetron? i saw one kasi there.

by the way wala ba talagang power source yung Turntable. yung flat ribbon lang kasi nakikita ko eh.

Hi Sir you've mentioned before that the said turntable is originaly from your Aiwa mini compo right? My question is: Gumagana pa ba mini compo mo? If yes try mo munang paandarin sa mini compo mo. Converting it to RCA requires some experience  technician or with knowledge with electronics. You need to open the unit & traced the circuit to do this.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: jcob on Aug 11, 2004 at 02:13 PM

Hi Sir you've mentioned before that the said turntable is originaly from your Aiwa mini compo right? My question is: Gumagana pa ba mini compo mo? If yes try mo munang paandarin sa mini compo mo. Converting it to RCA requires some experience  technician or with knowledge with electronics. You need to open the unit & traced the circuit to do this.

Sir Odyopayl,

salamat sir sa reply. actually hindi na gumagana yung mini compo, sinubukan ko na ring baklasin yung compo hoping that there is a separate board or circuit for the phono stage. pero nung nabukasan ko isang buong board lang sya. naka direct-connect yung flat wire dun sa board. binukasan ko rin yung turntable and i saw a small PCB i'm not sure if this is the phono stage.

actually i'm an electronic engineer myself, kaya lang i have no idea how the phono stage cicuits looks like besides i have no time sa house to do some major modification doon sa TT. gusto ko sana ibenta kaya lang mukhang dapat yung bibili marunong para mapakinabangan. isa pa dami nagbebenta ng TT na mura.

i'm actually looking dun sa buy&sell section na TT, 2,700 lang. By the way, ok na ba yung price na 7k for a technics 1200MKII.

thanks.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: levi on Aug 11, 2004 at 06:45 PM
I bought it from Rene. I think he has 1 more unit.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: MiniCooper on Aug 12, 2004 at 08:19 AM
I just got a GR1. Its around 16T. Its a lotter better than my Technics.
hey levi,  congrats on your new TT.  did it come with the elektra cart? see you next week.  ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: arnel90 on Aug 12, 2004 at 09:14 PM


Hi Levi,
Is that price for a brand-new GR1 and if so where di you purchase it  ?  I'm looking at a brand new ProJect Debut II which sells for the equivalent of 13K php.



thanks


for a few more grand, get the GR1, i heard both and ended up with the GR1  8)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Aug 13, 2004 at 05:45 AM
Anybody use or auditioned the NAD 533 a guy is giving me a great deal on it....21k for the turntable and a NAD PP2 phonostage....trying to find a store that has both the GR-1 and the NAD but no luck......also want your comments on the project 1 expression....
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: iceman90a on Aug 13, 2004 at 10:27 PM
agree on the Goldring ;D - but only if it has these accessories:

cartridge
(http://www.thecute.dyndns.org/phpbb2/files/resize_of_dsc02162.jpg)

counterweight
(http://www.thecute.dyndns.org/phpbb2/files/resize_of_dsc02166.jpg)

which i can't afford :(
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: FASTBACK on Aug 31, 2004 at 05:48 AM
Recently bought a Pioneer PL-112D (year 1977) turntable.

A good start to revisit our old LP's  since I don't have the budget for a new tt.

I bought this tt not working motor removed the stylus not perfectly seated on the cartridge the owner termed it as junk, but I managed to revived it and now in working condition.

I am learning new things regarding tt, especially on how to setup properly.

I also have to build a MM preamp (Breadboad prototype) just to listen my newly aqcuired tt,  hope to build a Tube Phono preamp soon.

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 31, 2004 at 09:37 AM
Fastback,

Congrats.. have a Pioneer TT also PL-560 full automatic got it from my uncle the motor still working so just bought a needle at Raon..good for beginner like me to start with LP's and will just upgrade when have the molaah..  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: kimpao on Aug 31, 2004 at 11:20 AM
Fastback,

Congrats.. have a Pioneer TT also PL-560 full automatic got it from my uncle the motor still working so just bought a needle at Raon..good for beginner like me to start with LP's and will just upgrade when have the molaah..  ;D ;D

Tsk.....tsk............tsk...............  Akala ko ba pangit ang plaka kuya. ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 31, 2004 at 11:24 AM
Senor Kimpao,

Pre Sir Akyat lend me some LP na mas lalong pangit... hay!! late tuloy sa office today..
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: james16 on Aug 31, 2004 at 11:25 AM
hhe, kuya kelan natin madidinig turn table mo...  ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 31, 2004 at 11:28 AM
kapatid james,

Small time lang TT ko yun kay Sir akyat ang magandang TT.. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: james16 on Aug 31, 2004 at 11:59 AM
kapatid james,

Small time lang TT ko yun kay Sir akyat ang magandang TT.. ;D ;D ;D ;D

tama, ganda yung TT ni Sir Akyat heheheh malaki pa heheheheh  ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: kimpao on Aug 31, 2004 at 12:54 PM


tama, ganda yung TT ni Sir Akyat heheheh malaki pa heheheheh  ;D

Buti pa sila james, may TT na, tayo wala pa. :-\ ;D

yung kay sir akyat ang ganda pa ng dulo, bagong bago, puting puti.  ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: james16 on Aug 31, 2004 at 01:07 PM


Buti pa sila james, may TT na, tayo wala pa. :-\ ;D

yung kay sir akyat ang ganda pa ng dulo, bagong bago, puting puti.  ;D

tama ka senor kimpao....  ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 31, 2004 at 01:11 PM
senor Kimpao and kapatid James,

Meron available TT at audio shop.. bili bili na.... ;D ;D ;D




TT- turntable po..
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: james16 on Aug 31, 2004 at 01:15 PM
senor Kimpao and kapatid James,

Meron available TT at audio shop.. bili bili na.... ;D ;D ;D




TT- turntable po..

cge kuya pero bili muna ako TV bago TT heheheh  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sebman on Aug 31, 2004 at 01:21 PM


Buti pa sila james, may TT na, tayo wala pa. :-\ ;D

yung kay sir akyat ang ganda pa ng dulo, bagong bago, puting puti.  ;D

pre.. nag-pipigil ka lang.... goldring na...  ;D  ^-^  ;)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: kimpao on Aug 31, 2004 at 02:24 PM


pre.. nag-pipigil ka lang.... goldring na...  ;D  ^-^  ;)
Ahihihihihihi...................... ;D ;D ;D Tama ka dun sir.  ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 31, 2004 at 09:26 PM
Senor Kimpao,

Wag na magtiis.. bili na..
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: FASTBACK on Sep 01, 2004 at 12:59 AM
Fastback,

Congrats.. have a Pioneer TT also PL-560 full automatic got it from my uncle the motor still working so just bought a needle at Raon..good for beginner like me to start with LP's and will just upgrade when have the molaah..  ;D ;D

hans adriane

Thanks.

I am listening to LP's which my uncle and dad owned I am rediscovering music which I took for granted when I was a kid.

Now it's LP hunting naman, then what you said "upgrade when have the molaah".
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: FASTBACK on Sep 09, 2004 at 05:27 AM
Presently since my amps here have no phonostage I built one. For testing purpose that is why it is on a breadboard.

Here it is.

(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0UwDmApwYLA19EoHAUAATUZ2qd3yYeGsx9tQzGZgwon2Za2!z!EBP7IVlS0x5mhnMP65fhvPZSGZoJSJuOnyBZF3Cec34ubjCBSB1Cql9exjuddxp9AADAQDtnvrfaXjA/Phono%20Breadboard%2001.jpg?dc=4675488286499026271)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: JojoD818 on Sep 09, 2004 at 12:00 PM
Nice phono stage!  ;D

My active minimalist preamp also uses an opamp based phono stage but since it's minimalist, I only used a single stage. I see you use 2 stages.  ;)


I have a breadboard just like that too! Ah, I remember those school days when I have to bring a breadboarded circuit to school and everything fell to the ground when the jeepney driver slammed on the brakes! Hahahaha  ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: m0b1u5 on Sep 09, 2004 at 12:08 PM
sirs,
     while i was strolling last night i came across this store that sells surplus items.  I was intrigued when saw a turntable in one of their displays. I wasn't able to test the unit though because the shop was already closing time.
     Will this be a good buy for 1.6K?
          Kenwood KD291R, belt-drive, cue lift, auto return, 33/45 rpm, 45 rpm spool
BTW, i am just a neophyte (zero knowledge) when it comes to vinyls.
thanks.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: JojoD818 on Sep 09, 2004 at 01:20 PM
sirs,
     while i was strolling last night i came across this store that sells surplus items.  I was intrigued when saw a turntable in one of their displays. I wasn't able to test the unit though because the shop was already closing time.
     Will this be a good buy for 1.6K?
          Kenwood KD291R, belt-drive, cue lift, auto return, 33/45 rpm, 45 rpm spool
BTW, i am just a neophyte (zero knowledge) when it comes to vinyls.
thanks.

Try to chech the needle and cartridge if it's still ok when you pass by again  ;). If it's still working then I guess that's good for the price. 100V or 220V?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: m0b1u5 on Sep 09, 2004 at 01:30 PM
my last encounter with TTs was I think 20 years ago in my childhood days, including those with music on tape reels years earlier.  That's the time when they broke down.  Pardon my ignorance but how do you check if the needle and cartridge are still OK?  Does this only mean that if it can still play music, then it's okay?  The sales guy said that it was 220V.

thanks master.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: JojoD818 on Sep 09, 2004 at 01:38 PM
my last encounter with TTs was I think 20 years ago in my childhood days, including those with music on tape reels years earlier.  That's the time when they broke down.  Pardon my ignorance but how do you check if the needle and cartridge are still OK?  Does this only mean that if it can still play music, then it's okay?  The sales guy said that it was 220V.

thanks master.

Since we're talking surplus TT here, then you must assume that it has been used already. Now, the easiest way to check that it is still working is to play music with the TT. Needles can be replaced relatively cheap but the cartirdge may be an OEM which is not a standard cartridge, the trick is to see if it can be replaced also. But then again, for the price, it's veryb tempting.

What bothers me is it is 220V, isn't it possible that it's not a real surplus? Maybe a second hand item instead, but that doesn't matter as long as it is in prestine conditions.  :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: m0b1u5 on Sep 09, 2004 at 01:45 PM
thanks sir. I'll go back to the shop and give it a try.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: JojoD818 on Sep 09, 2004 at 01:55 PM
thanks sir. I'll go back to the shop and give it a try.

no problem, glad to be of help.  ;)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: FASTBACK on Sep 10, 2004 at 12:43 AM
Nice phono stage!  ;D

My active minimalist preamp also uses an opamp based phono stage but since it's minimalist, I only used a single stage. I see you use 2 stages.  ;)


I have a breadboard just like that too! Ah, I remember those school days when I have to bring a breadboarded circuit to school and everything fell to the ground when the jeepney driver slammed on the brakes! Hahahaha  ;D

Sir

Yes two stages first is the RIAA eq and the second one for amplification.

It brings back memories of my college days when we were doing our prototype design, good thing I managed to find it for fast prototype build before finalizing the design.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: JojoD818 on Sep 10, 2004 at 10:34 AM
I still have mine too, very handy for those fast circuit prototypes.  ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: redkoji on Sep 10, 2004 at 05:10 PM
Stereophile (October 1998)
Fi (November 1998)
Reviewer: Michael Fremer (Stereophile), Steven Guttenberg (Fi)
 The NAD 533 is an out-of-the-box pleasure."



<http://www.nadelectronics.com/images/turntable/533big.jpg>

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In both the October issue of Stereophile and the November issue of Fi magazine, analog-minded audio writers take a look at our 533 turntable and PP-1 phono preamp.
In Stereophile, Michael Fremer starts off his regular "Analog Corner" column with an uncharacteristic look at new digital recording developments, but he soon returns to his primary focus on vinyl. And he likes what he sees and hears in the 533 and PP-1. After describing setup of the 533's tone arm and its included Goldring Elektra cartridge, he goes right to the point:
 
"Anyway, the NAD 533/Goldring Elektra is another great bargain....It too is a very strong performer and an incredible value for money. I enjoyed listening to it for hours at a time...It gives you that certain relaxed analog "something" that no CD player at any price can."

His overall verdict: "the NAD 533 is an out-of-the-box pleasure."

Then it's on to the PP-1:

"Have a preamp with only a line section? NAD makes the ridiculously inexpensive ($129) PP-1 MM phono preamp, made in China and featuring a separate outboard power supply (a wall-plug power transformer, actually) and a neat little gray box with gold-plated RCA input cables and hard-wired output cables."

His quick take on its performance and value:

"The PP-1 is a pleasant-sounding, low-noise piece that, while lacking dynamic and transient excitement, sounds surprisingly rich, round, and satisfying....If you're slowly creeping your way back to analog or just want something to use to play back a small collection of records, the PP-1 is the lowest-cost path of least resistance."

In the November Fi, Steve Guttenburg's review of the 533 and PP-1 is subtitled: "How to get phonoed for less ? or analog ready."

His first take?

"NAD has jumped back into the vinyl game with a cute-as-a-bug phono stage, the PP-1, and the 533 turntable. A complete front end for only $578! You don't own a single record? Scout the yard sales and used record shops, where for the price of 10 CDs, you can easily scoop up 50-60 vinyl treasures. Minty-fresh LPs are still available from a variety of sources, including imports, Classic Records, Analogue Productions, DCC. The list goes on.."

"The NAD 533 turntable is sourced from Rega, the venerable British manufacturer, and that's good news. NAD and Rega's modus operandi are in perfect synch: maximum sound quality for minimum bucks....The tonearm is the well-regarded Rega RB 250, a super rigid yet highly refined wonder that will do justice to just about any reasonably-priced cartridge....how NAD manages to retail the 533 for $449 including a Goldring Elektra cartridge is a minor mystery."

Guttenberg has this to say (in part) about the accompanying PP-1:

"The engineers made every penny count, fitting the PP-1 with captive output cables and, thereby, saving the owner the expense of a decent pair of cables while eliminating one pair of connections. They didn't totally cheap out, either: the cable is oxygen-free copper, connectors are gold-plated, and the chassis is a nicely finished folded steel box. One little quirk?the PP-1 lacks a ground post, but that's OK with the 533 since it doesn't have a ground wire. PP-1 users whose phono systems require a ground connection can use one of the chassis screws e picture: the little guy is as featureless as can be. No switches, controls, adjustments, although they did toss in a 15 volt wall-wart power supply to keep hum-inducing AC at a safe distance. The strategy works. The PP-1 is suitably quiet and RF-free, even here in downtown Brooklyn?that's no mean feat for any phono pre, much less one that costs less than a decent interconnect."

The bottom line?

"...if you're looking for toe-tappin' kicks from your hi-fi, and your budget is limited, the NAD 533/PP-1 will deliver them, with gusto!"
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: krets pulpol on Sep 15, 2004 at 01:38 PM
here's a review of rega p5 and p7 turntable from hifichoice uk

http://www.hifichoice.co.uk/review_read.asp?ID=2804

 O0
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: obey on Oct 24, 2004 at 05:20 PM
What's the cheapest (siyempre yung maganda na rin) turntable that can play 33, 45, and 78 lp's?  Actually mas concern ko ang 78s.  Dami kasing plaka na na-recover sa old house ng wife ko na ganito.  Gusto lang namin ma-play ulit.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: akyatbundok on Nov 03, 2004 at 05:43 PM
sirs, where can i buy replacement needles?  it doesn't have to be original/branded.

my shure M55E cartridge is already out of production, and it seems Audiophile isn't carrying the styli anymore, but i did see some replacements on the net, for instance Radioshack carries a replacement but i didnt see it in the local radioshack stores.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: arnoldc on Nov 03, 2004 at 06:28 PM
you can check the shops in raon. maybe you'll find a cartridge na din.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: akyatbundok on Nov 03, 2004 at 06:37 PM
thanks! will do.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: jestrella on Nov 03, 2004 at 11:41 PM
Sir, while strolling at the mall, I saw Numark turntables,  I don't no much about turntables regarding their brand. Anybody in this community to help me if his brand is worth to buy or not?
Thanks.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: arnoldc on Nov 04, 2004 at 11:15 AM
Numark are DJ tables and pricey too.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on Nov 05, 2004 at 09:46 AM
sirs, where can i buy replacement needles?  it doesn't have to be original/branded.
my shure M55E cartridge is already out of production, and it seems Audiophile isn't carrying the styli anymore, but i did see some replacements on the net, for instance Radioshack carries a replacement but i didnt see it in the local radioshack stores.

sir, dalhin mo ang cartridge mo. i got Japanese replacement styluses for Shure M55 and M44E and several others at only P300 each last March (ang orig would cost only about P600 kaya lang wala nang available.) marami pa silang stocks since they supply the local radio stations. they also have original replacements for high-end Audio Technica models. sa kanila daw binenta ng mga taga Dau yung stocks nila nung early '90s after Pinatubo. nakalimutan ko ang pangalan pero mga 3 or 4 shops away from Evangelista, if you're coming from Quezon Blvd. it's at the ground floor of a 4 or 5 storey, relatively new, building.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on Nov 05, 2004 at 09:49 AM
sorry, nabura yung first sentence sir. anyway, sa Raon marami pang replacement stylus, malapit sa kanto ng Evangelista.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: akyatbundok on Nov 05, 2004 at 11:41 AM

sir, dalhin mo ang cartridge mo. i got Japanese replacement styluses for Shure M55 and M44E and several others at only P300 each last March (ang orig would cost only about P600 kaya lang wala nang available.) marami pa silang stocks since they supply the local radio stations. they also have original replacements for high-end Audio Technica models. sa kanila daw binenta ng mga taga Dau yung stocks nila nung early '90s after Pinatubo. nakalimutan ko ang pangalan pero mga 3 or 4 shops away from Evangelista, if you're coming from Quezon Blvd. it's at the ground floor of a 4 or 5 storey, relatively new, building.


thanks!  me and symon need to go there for a needle-hunting expedition..... after i acquired a Shure M44G i haven't listened to the M55E in a while (newly acquired stuff tends to have more playtime).... but after hooking it up again, i realized how good it sounds, that it deserves a better needle than the one i have, which is slightly twisted to one side.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: jestrella on Nov 05, 2004 at 01:47 PM
Sir,
Is it worth to buy Technic SL-Q6 turntable(display unit at a very cheapest cost)? I am worry of the maintenance and supply of needles if I will buy it. Does the needle (Technic P33) still available at stores? What are the common headaches of this turnatable? Or should I buy instead a brand new portable Numark? Please enlighten me about these turntable.

Thank you very much.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: symon on Nov 05, 2004 at 03:30 PM


thanks!  me and symon need to go there for a needle-hunting expedition..... after i acquired a Shure M44G i haven't listened to the M55E in a while (newly acquired stuff tends to have more playtime).... but after hooking it up again, i realized how good it sounds, that it deserves a better needle than the one i have, which is slightly twisted to one side.


sir akyat,

tara lets! set nas natin sched, kelangan ko rin mag hanap ng replacement needle (stylus na rin) ng shure ME70B ko.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 05, 2004 at 04:32 PM
Sir,
Is it worth to buy Technic SL-Q6 turntable(display unit at a very cheapest cost)? I am worry of the maintenance and supply of needles if I will buy it. Does the needle (Technic P33) still available at stores? What are the common headaches of this turnatable? Or should I buy instead a brand new portable Numark? Please enlighten me about these turntable.

Thank you very much.

Is this the tangential tracking model of technics that can be operated vertically?  Just curious. 
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: jestrella on Nov 05, 2004 at 10:47 PM
Sir,

I do not know if can be played vertically, it seems it is not. I believe it is the programmable track finder. It has no arm(I do not know what is the term of that holds the stylus and needle), when you close the cover then that is the time you can start playing.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on Nov 06, 2004 at 10:25 AM
apparently, it's a tangential-, linear-tracking model with p-mount cartridge. i don't think it could play vertically, although the more expensive models of Technics have that ability. i had the SL10 before, which was Technics top of the line tangential tracking turntable and it could play upside down.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: jestrella on Nov 06, 2004 at 12:53 PM
Technics SL-Q6 is a direct drive unlike the Numark portable turntable is a belt drive. For me Technics turntable is morelikely has the advantage, I guess on it's performance, but I am worried about the maintenance and the supplies of parts (when brokedown) that lead me to buy again another turntable. As I researched from the internet, Technics SL-Q6 was initially introduced on the market in 1982, it seems it is old enough to have supplies of parts at this time but I do not know if has a replacement part for such part as needle, stylus, motor, etc..

Numark portable turntable was recently introduced and I believe that the parts were readily available at the distributor stores.

My problem is that I do not know much more on these things, I am seeking some advises or some recommendation on this community. I am closing my mind to choose only to  these brands and model.

Thank you very much.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: akyatbundok on Nov 08, 2004 at 04:01 PM
finally got me an original Shure N55E needle for my out of production cart..... the old needle i got is probably an imitation, it doesn't have a needle guard and the Shure label..... it's pretty good though, the sound is almost the same as the original.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: kimpao on Nov 08, 2004 at 04:18 PM
Has anyone tried this needle from shure?

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V15VxMR

"Cold out of the box, the V15 sounded warm. Over time it got even warmer, though the bass tightened up a bit. By any definition, the new V15VxMR is a warm, sweet-sounding cartridge. Its basic nature, coupled with its superb tracking ability, yielded a completely grain- and etch-free sonic picture that was never fatiguing or hard-sounding."  - Michael Fremer


I've been reading a lot of good reviews on this particular cart, value for money,  plus a friend recommends this.  Too bad, production is already discontinued.  :'(
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: symon on Nov 08, 2004 at 04:51 PM
finally got me an original Shure N55E needle for my out of production cart..... the old needle i got is probably an imitation, it doesn't have a needle guard and the Shure label..... it's pretty good though, the sound is almost the same as the original.

sir, sent you pm.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on Nov 08, 2004 at 08:36 PM
I've used the Shure V15 types 3 and 4, which were identical, as early as 24 years ago, but not the type 5. It looks similar to previous types though. The V15s are similar in sound to Audio Technica's 125LC and 152 LC. I still have the V15 type 4 and you can still buy used V15s abroad at prices ranging from $50 to $100 (Amoeba Music - Haight St. SFO and Telegraph St in Berkeley.)

Jing De Guzman's Audiophile shops used to carry this model and back in early '80s, you could buy used V15s, including stylus, at less than P1K in Dau. I got an original replacement stylus for the V15 type 4 four years in ago in SFO at $50. The price range, I was told, depends on availability of supply. For practicality and price efficiency , available Shure models such as M95, 75, 55 and 44 are good enough especially if you want to hear bass. Replacement stylus for these models are available at Raon.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: krets pulpol on Nov 09, 2004 at 10:09 PM
ey guys just discovered this site from a stereophile mag.
this is a good source of different needles and cartridges

http://www.needledoctor.com/

plus discovered this site

http://www.basisaudio.com/
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Nov 29, 2004 at 08:27 AM
Bro,

How much does the Project 2 TT cost?  Looking to try the vinyl format.....while we're on the subject in terms of availability of vinyl albums to choose from is there a large market in the Philippines? Do new albums still get released on the vinyl format?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: synchro on Nov 30, 2004 at 08:07 AM
where can I buy a cartridge and needle for my Technics SL MK tt?  Thanks guys  :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on Nov 30, 2004 at 08:42 AM
bring your cartridge assembly (including stylus) to Raon. it should have a replacement there (including P-mount type). the price should range from P300 to P600 for replacement stylus, mostly Taiwan made. Technics makes a lot of cartridges for their turntables but these are relatively not good in quality and meant to be replaced by those made by dedicated cartridge manufacturers.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 30, 2004 at 09:23 AM
Bro,

How much does the Project 2 TT cost?  Looking to try the vinyl format.....while we're on the subject in terms of availability of vinyl albums to choose from is there a large market in the Philippines? Do new albums still get released on the vinyl format?

Montage at Greenbelt 3 has quite a few titles, presumably sealed and new.  Tower records I think also has.  There's really an insignificant market for vinyls locally.  I thing there are Very few albums relased in this format.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: s2kov on Nov 30, 2004 at 09:51 AM
is the tonearm, cartridge and stylus available as a set in raon?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Nov 30, 2004 at 10:23 AM
naku, may TT na si andy boy!!! :D :D :D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: edboy7 on Nov 30, 2004 at 10:26 AM
is the tonearm, cartridge and stylus available as a set in raon?
hahaha talagang bubuhayin mo ha! :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: s2kov on Nov 30, 2004 at 12:08 PM
hahaha talagang bubuhayin mo ha! :)

Oist! Nagtatanong lng ako ah! ;D



naku, may TT na si andy boy!!! :D :D :D

Wala pa bro! ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: fotoslave on Nov 30, 2004 at 12:22 PM
andy,

tayong mga walang TT, bad-ing pa tawag saten...  kse hanggang CD pa lang tayo!!  ;D

CD sound is BAD-ING sound

BAD-
I-mitation
N-ot
G-ood

ayuz ba  ::)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: iceman90a on Nov 30, 2004 at 12:52 PM
andy,

tayong mga walang TT, bad-ing pa tawag saten... kse hanggang CD pa lang tayo!!  ;D

CD sound is BAD-ING sound

BAD-
I-mitation
N-ot
G-ood

ayuz ba  ::)

ah deezagree! ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: kimpao on Nov 30, 2004 at 12:58 PM
andy,

tayong mga walang TT, bad-ing pa tawag saten...  kse hanggang CD pa lang tayo!!  ;D

CD sound is BAD-ING sound

BAD-
I-mitation
N-ot
G-ood

ayuz ba  ::)

atty. epekto ata yan ng "absolute" mukhang marami kang nainom ha. ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: s2kov on Nov 30, 2004 at 01:10 PM
Ok ang naisip mo atty! ;D



andy,

tayong mga walang TT, bad-ing pa tawag saten...  kse hanggang CD pa lang tayo!!  ;D

CD sound is BAD-ING sound

BAD-
I-mitation
N-ot
G-ood

ayuz ba  ::)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: kimpao on Nov 30, 2004 at 01:17 PM
Andy, mukhang sawa ka na sa plastic resin, mukhang gusto mo na ang vinyl resin at arylic resin.  ;D VPI Scout agad!.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: s2kov on Nov 30, 2004 at 01:26 PM
No, no, no senor! ;D Ganun pa din at patingin tingin!




Andy, mukhang sawa ka na sa plastic resin, mukhang gusto mo na ang vinyl resin at arylic resin.  ;D VPI Scout agad!.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: fotoslave on Nov 30, 2004 at 04:23 PM

atty. epekto ata yan ng "absolute" mukhang marami kang nainom ha. ;D

bro, absolutely - walang ibabatbat CDs sa SACD format kahit sa Consonance pa ni Vince isaksak yan!! nakarinig na kase ako ng tunay na SACD kahapon eh.... CD layer lang pala ng SACD naririnig ko nung una. he he he  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: s2kov on Nov 30, 2004 at 04:45 PM
Two Channel Audio Rulez! ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: kimpao on Nov 30, 2004 at 05:03 PM


bro, absolutely - walang ibabatbat CDs sa SACD format kahit sa Consonance pa ni Vince isaksak yan!! nakarinig na kase ako ng tunay na SACD kahapon eh.... CD layer lang pala ng SACD naririnig ko nung una. he he he  ;D ;D ;D
agree ako dyan atty, problema lang sa SACD limited yung mga titles nya tapos mahal.  ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: fotoslave on Nov 30, 2004 at 05:14 PM
kaya nga sa plaka na lang tayo dami pang pre-owned LPs na tig 50pesos lang!!  ;D ;D

kahit na gawing flying saucer ng anak mo o pamangkin mo, di nakakapanghinayang....  ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: iceman90a on Nov 30, 2004 at 05:29 PM

agree ako dyan atty, problema lang sa SACD limited yung mga titles nya tapos mahal. ;D

atsaka walang SACD na The Dawn, at Identity Crisis ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: fotoslave on Nov 30, 2004 at 05:34 PM

atsaka walang SACD na The Dawn, at Identity Crisis ;D ;D ;D

parang may identity crisis nga ako on which format to choose ahh....  ::)

CD na lang... meron din namang tig 50pesos na CDs  >:D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: symon on Nov 30, 2004 at 05:35 PM


atsaka walang SACD na The Dawn, at Identity Crisis ;D ;D ;D

si ppp nagbebenta ng dawn live lp (jap pressing) ah. si teddy diaz pa yata lead nun.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: s2kov on Nov 30, 2004 at 06:18 PM
Uyy! tambay ka din ba sa XB-102 dati? ;D Identity Crisis, favorite ko din yan lalo na yung vocalist na malapad noo ;D

Cool, as in kool karla! ;D



atsaka walang SACD na The Dawn, at Identity Crisis ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on Nov 30, 2004 at 06:44 PM
is the tonearm, cartridge and stylus available as a set in raon?

andy, mahirap na sigurong maghanap ng tonearm set ngayon, dati kahit separates (tonearm, headshell, cartridge, stylus, anti-static mat, platter substitutes) may mabibili ka dito. kung buhay pa yung original shop ni De Guzman (Audiophile) sa Paco, o yung kay Manny Lim (Audiolab) sa Timog, baka may nakatago pang components/assemblies - pero mahal magpresyo yung mga yun.

sa Raon wala kang makikitang matinong parts ng record decks, last option lang ang mga shops dun. ang replacement stylus puro counterfeit, pero makaka tiyempo ka ng original na ipinasa daw sa kanila bago nagsara yung mga shops sa Dau. ang problema, mahina na ang kapit ng diamond sa cantilever dahil siguro sa tanda (late '70s assembled pa yung mga binebenta dito). dalawa na ang natanggal na diamond sa nabili ko dun, top Audio Technica models pa naman. buti na lang pakyawan ako bumili, two out of five ang nasayang.

kung gusto mong mag-assemble ng turntable, online ordering ang best option. i-check mo yung ebay australia, minsan may nakita akong nagbenta ng SME assembly A$20 lang ang buy-price. daming used British audio components dun na mura. kailangan lang may kilala ka sa Sydney na puwedeng bumili at magpadala sa 'yo. another way is to scout from the local market for old middle- to high-end turntable models that could be separated. makaka tiyempo ka, kaya lang it might take months. kung kailangan mo lang standard, or low-mass, headshells, meron pa akong mga extra. cartridges, dami, kaya lang kalahati wala ng stylus.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: s2kov on Nov 30, 2004 at 06:57 PM
thanks bro! :D



andy, mahirap na sigurong maghanap ng tonearm set ngayon, dati kahit separates (tonearm, headshell, cartridge, stylus, anti-static mat, platter substitutes) may mabibili ka dito. kung buhay pa yung original shop ni De Guzman (Audiophile) sa Paco, o yung kay Manny Lim (Audiolab) sa Timog, baka may nakatago pang components/assemblies - pero mahal magpresyo yung mga yun.

sa Raon wala kang makikitang matinong parts ng record decks, last option lang ang mga shops dun. ang replacement stylus puro counterfeit, pero makaka tiyempo ka ng original na ipinasa daw sa kanila bago nagsara yung mga shops sa Dau. ang problema, mahina na ang kapit ng diamond sa cantilever dahil siguro sa tanda (late '70s assembled pa yung mga binebenta dito). dalawa na ang natanggal na diamond sa nabili ko dun, top Audio Technica models pa naman. buti na lang pakyawan ako bumili, two out of five ang nasayang.

kung gusto mong mag-assemble ng turntable, online ordering ang best option. i-check mo yung ebay australia, minsan may nakita akong nagbenta ng SME assembly A$20 lang ang buy-price. daming used British audio components dun na mura. kailangan lang may kilala ka sa Sydney na puwedeng bumili at magpadala sa 'yo. another way is to scout from the local market for old middle- to high-end turntable models that could be separated. makaka tiyempo ka, kaya lang it might take months. kung kailangan mo lang standard, or low-mass, headshells, meron pa akong mga extra. cartridges, dami, kaya lang kalahati wala ng stylus.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: iceman90a on Nov 30, 2004 at 08:17 PM
Uyy! tambay ka din ba sa XB-102 dati? ;D Identity Crisis, favorite ko din yan lalo na yung vocalist na malapad noo ;D

Cool, as in kool karla! ;D

favorite ko din yan Identity Crisis - nalaman ko na friend ni misis yung kapatid ng lead singer, kaya naka score ako ng CD's ng album nila pero CDR...

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: s2kov on Nov 30, 2004 at 08:41 PM
pwede pakopya! ;D



favorite ko din yan Identity Crisis - nalaman ko na friend ni misis yung kapatid ng lead singer, kaya naka score ako ng CD's ng album nila pero CDR...


Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: iceman90a on Nov 30, 2004 at 08:44 PM
pwede pakopya! ;D

ikaw pa! ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: s2kov on Nov 30, 2004 at 08:53 PM
Alright! ;D Cge kpag nasa akin na yung mga New Wave CDs ni edboy dalhin ko s'yo at hiramin ko na din para makopya! :D

Sabi ni edboy isang bag daw yung ipapahiram sa hiya nya s'yo at matagal na daw! ;D



ikaw pa! ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 30, 2004 at 11:37 PM


ikaw pa! ;D

eh paano naman kami?  ::)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 30, 2004 at 11:39 PM
andy,

tayong mga walang TT, bad-ing pa tawag saten...  kse hanggang CD pa lang tayo!!  ;D

CD sound is BAD-ING sound

BAD-
I-mitation
N-ot
G-ood

ayuz ba  ::)

aray ko poh! ang mga taong walang TT! buti na lang may TT ako, pero di ko na ginagamit, magastos din kasi.  ;D :o
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 30, 2004 at 11:40 PM


atty. epekto ata yan ng "absolute" mukhang marami kang nainom ha. ;D

bilib nga ako kay atty., amoy pa lang nun nahihilo na ako, sya ginawa lang mouthwash!  :o

atty! fish poh!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: synchro on Dec 06, 2004 at 09:38 PM
Finally!....after 15 long years..my Technics TTable is alive once again with the help of Mr. Rene Rivo (Hyperaudio).  Rene fixed the Technics and sourced out the parts that were missing from my long forgoten TTable. he also wired the Technics with XLO/Monster cable interconnects.  Thank you Rene  ;D 
Now I have a chance to listen to my dad's Hugo Montenegro LP after it has been kept for about 20 years.  O0
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: iceman90a on Dec 06, 2004 at 10:32 PM
 ;D kaya pala ayaw ibenta - gagamitin ulit ;)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: synchro on Dec 06, 2004 at 11:40 PM
iceman

hehe...kasi I know for a fact that i will go back to analog once again.   :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 07, 2004 at 09:40 AM
Teka nga magamit nga ulit yun TT ko  puro BAD-ing gamit ko eh.. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Dec 08, 2004 at 07:25 AM
Guys

How much ang Project two turntable?

Thanks
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dbdbd on Dec 08, 2004 at 11:53 AM
I have a Technics 1200MKII which I havent used in years. Any suggestions where I can have it repaired or calibrated? I tried all the necessary adjustments but the tonearm simply just skids.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Dec 08, 2004 at 11:56 AM
try to send a PM to hyperaudio...i'm sure he can help you...thanks!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Dec 08, 2004 at 11:56 AM
Guys

How much ang Project two turntable?

Thanks

sent you a PM...thanks!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on Dec 08, 2004 at 07:38 PM
I have a Technics 1200MKII which I havent used in years. Any suggestions where I can have it repaired or calibrated? I tried all the necessary adjustments but the tonearm simply just skids.

if it skids, likely you have the wrong anti-skating adjustment, too low tracking force, or you have a defective stylus. any of those three, your tonearm would slide inward destroying your stylus (if it's not chipped yet) damaging your precious records.

btw, for those going back to analog, it might be worthwhile to have a good magnifying glass, those used by watch repairmen, to have an idea of the stylus' condition. a stylus tip with too much dirt deposit would surely result in distortion or skating. you also need a small brush to clean the stylus tip. if you can still find cleaning gadgets by Discwasher or other brands, better.

having a magnifying glass, a small mirror and brush would allow you to check the condition of your stylus regularly, depending on how frequent you use your record player. it will also save you a lot of money since cleaning your stylus would result in dramatic improvement in sonic quality. thus, no need to buy a new cartridge or replacement stylus.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: iceman90a on Dec 08, 2004 at 11:34 PM
iceman

hehe...kasi I know for a fact that i will go back to analog once again. :)

naku! kalaban ka na rin sa plaka ;D patay ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: synchro on Dec 09, 2004 at 08:24 AM


naku! kalaban ka na rin sa plaka ;D patay ;D ;D

hindi naman sir. paisa-isa na lang siguro bili natin.  mahirap kitain ang pera sa panahon ngayon hehe anyway I still have a couple of hundred LP's here that will keep me busy for the next month or so  ;D

one downside to analog: hirap maghugas at maglinis ng plaka  :-\
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: iceman90a on Dec 09, 2004 at 08:45 AM
one downside to analog: hirap maghugas at maglinis ng plaka :-\

sinabi mo! siguro mga 20 pa lang nahugasan ko... pero hugasan ko pa ulit para malagay ko na sa inner sleeves na nakuha ko :-\
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dbdbd on Dec 09, 2004 at 10:19 AM
Hey thanks Sandawa!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: edboy7 on Dec 22, 2004 at 08:30 PM
mga analog guys, ok po ba ang panasonic SL-H401? direct drive with pitch control  mura kasi binebenta e...ala lang head ty :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: s2kov on Dec 23, 2004 at 09:28 AM
ano ba compatible cartridge and stylus para dyan?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: kimpao on Dec 27, 2004 at 02:47 PM


guys, i need suggestions as to what ic's to use since i kinda find the stock cables of a gr1 to be flimsy.  ;D :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Audioboy on Dec 27, 2004 at 07:25 PM
how about this pre?

(http://www.decibelhifi.com.au/images/incognito.jpg)

here's the site:

http://www.decibelhifi.com.au/prod114.htm
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: bayonic on Dec 27, 2004 at 08:04 PM
how about this pre?

(http://www.decibelhifi.com.au/images/incognito.jpg)

here's the site:

http://www.decibelhifi.com.au/prod114.htm

it's 3K pesos cheaper than a new GR1 :)

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: kimpao on Dec 28, 2004 at 10:38 AM
ouch! might as well buy me a new cart.  :-X
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: arnoldc on Dec 28, 2004 at 12:18 PM
kimpao, yes. bili mo na lang ng cartridge yan, at mas malaki pa improvement. on the budget side, may XLO na phono cable, 5K daw sabi ng audioworld.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: kimpao on Dec 28, 2004 at 01:31 PM
kimpao, yes. bili mo na lang ng cartridge yan, at mas malaki pa improvement. on the budget side, may XLO na phono cable, 5K daw sabi ng audioworld.

5k, sayang din sir arnold. madami dami rin plaka yan.  ;D  seriously, was thinking of getting a pair of XLO twinax ics'. pwede kaya yun. ::)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: arnoldc on Dec 28, 2004 at 02:34 PM
DIY ginagamit ko ngayon for the meantime. I'm using a japan-made shielded cable. It used to be 1.5 meters, pero pinutol ko na dahil lumapit 'table ko sa phono stage. Yung natira (di ko lang alam kung gitna pagkaputol ko) eh iyo na lang kung gusto mo.  Pwede ka din magbigay ng RCA at i-terminate ko na.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: kimpao on Dec 28, 2004 at 03:16 PM
Thanks sir arnold for the offer.  :D BTW,  is this ok as replacement for stock gr1 phono cables? or would there be a need for some soldering?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: arnoldc on Dec 28, 2004 at 03:23 PM
ano ba itsura nung phono cable ng GR-1? baka nakakabit sa tonearm yun? walang RCA yung GR-1 sa pwet? otherwise, kailangan yung buong table dyan. ang tonearm wire, mahal. kung balak mo din palitan.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: kimpao on Dec 28, 2004 at 04:33 PM
ano ba itsura nung phono cable ng GR-1? baka nakakabit sa tonearm yun? walang RCA yung GR-1 sa pwet?
none, i believe that the phono cables are somewhat directly connected to the tonearm.

otherwise, kailangan yung buong table dyan. ang tonearm wire, mahal. kung balak mo din palitan.
Ngek! :o ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: iceman90a on Dec 28, 2004 at 05:14 PM
madugo yan - kailangan i rewire pati tone arm... hindi ba pwede kung gawan na lang ng RCA jack sa mesa? o makakasama pa yung dugtong?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: arnoldc on Dec 28, 2004 at 06:02 PM
ice, that's exactly my next suggestion. operahan na yung mesa at lagyan na lang ng RCA junction box. may alam akong pwedeng gumawa ng acrylic junction box... ang pangalan ay mike... matinik daw ito...  ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on Dec 29, 2004 at 09:13 AM
Ang ganda ng takbo ng usapan, hindi na 'ko makatiis makikisali na po. Anyway I have used record decks since early ‘80s, had owned over a dozen in 25 years, even tweaked some of them. I could have misunderstood the issue here and if that’s the case, disregard this post. I’m not familiar with GR1 but decks I have opened in the past (although I'm not a technician) have links/junctions that separate the tonearm wires (tiny silver wires with very thin covers) from RCA deck-to-amp wires (with same tiny wires but with thicker rubber covers).

If the issue is small-diameter RCA wire cover but you have zero humming even at full volume without signal, I don’t see a problem there. The designer knows his job and is not likely to sacrifice sound from cost-cutting on a meter-long RCA line. Decks that are quiet (zero humming/rumble) and stable rotation (zero wow-and-flutter) are almost perfect and upgrade on sound should only be done through cartridge or stylus replacement. Thus, I fully support an earlier post that the pickup be upgraded instead. 

But I understand the tweaking itch, siyempre mas pogi kung materiales fuertes. In that case, open your deck, find the link/binding post of the tonearm and RCA lines, get a soldering iron and replace the RCA wires. This is a bit risky and could cause loud hums so make sure the solder is solid, otherwise it would cause more harm than good. I’ve done this before, trial and error, especially on RCA lines that fell victim to devilish Stuart Littles. Even when soldering work looks solid enough, the humming got louder. Replacing tonearm wire is also risky and depends on how simple, or complicated, the wiring in your turntable is. 

If your wiring goes straight, no link, from the tonearm to the amp with transition only on wire rubber covers, you’ll regret messing with it. But then, if the itch continues, find a competent technician who can do a transition/junction box as mentioned on the post above, preferably an old man who knows what he'd be working on.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: arnoldc on Dec 29, 2004 at 09:34 AM
i agree  8)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: synchro on Dec 29, 2004 at 09:43 AM
  If your wiring goes straight, no link, from the tonearm to the amp with transition only on wire rubber covers, you’ll regret messing with it. But then, if the itch continues, find a competent technician who can do a transition/junction box as mentioned on the post above, preferably an old man who knows what he'd be working on.

ganyan din problema ng Technics T/Table ko before. the stock cables that are hardwired look like the el cheapo ones that come free when you buy a dvd or vhs player. In my case the el cheapo wires have deteriorated even further (may kagat pa ng rodents due to long storage  >:(). I had it replaced by Hyperaudio using XLO Pro and Monster interconnects soldered directly to the small pcb board inside (no junction box). zero hum and improved sound.  am quite happy with the performance of the upgrade and I only spent a a small amount of money  :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Audioboy on Dec 29, 2004 at 10:08 AM
here's a pic for your reference.

(http://www.hi-fi.com/diy/rega/crosssec.gif)

A- Cartridge Clips

B- Headshell

C- Rubber Cap

D- Tonearm Wires: Red, Green, White & Blue

E- Arm Tube

F- Horizontal Bearing

G- Ground Wire: Black

 H- Itty Bitty Rubber Tube

I- Solder Connection Terminal

J- Base or Post

K- Set Screw

L- Grey Base Cap

M- Lead Wire

 

kim,

yakang yaka mo gawin itong instruction sa site na ito: http://www.hi-fi.com/diy/rega/steps.html.

pangunahan mo......tapos paturo ako sayo pag expert kana.  ;D

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on Dec 29, 2004 at 10:55 AM
In my case the el cheapo wires have deteriorated even further (may kagat pa ng rodents due to long storage  >:(). I had it replaced by Hyperaudio using XLO Pro and Monster interconnects soldered directly to the small pcb board inside (no junction box). zero hum and improved sound.  am quite happy with the performance of the upgrade and I only spent a a small amount of money  :)

that PCB (common among electronics-heavy turntables) is what we refer to and serves the purpose of link/junction box. i agree that good replacement work on parts of old units would have its reward, but generally, not recommended for new units unless performance falters.

i also would like to touch on the general impression i read on earlier posts here that direct drive TTs are the best. no, not always, unless that technology was perfectly applied as in the case of upscale direct drive models. in the '80s, belt drives from an older technology produced by master craftsmen in US, Europe and even Japan, were quieter, performed better, and therefore more expensive (hindi ko kayang bilhin).

even the much earlier rim-drive technology in '60s models of German brands Dual and Thorens (including the classic Thorens 124, which was installed for a long time in US radio booths at Clark Air Base before their replacement in early '80s) do better compared with entry- to middle-level direct drives made by the Japs.

direct drive is more popular since it is more reliable compared with belt-drive "if done perfectly", easier to assemble since the motor is almost integrated with the platter. however, excellence is driven by competition and with fewer TTs manufactured in the last 15 years, i don't think the quality of direct drives now has improved significantly since the '80s. TAS readers even complained workmanship on the few produced has deteriorated in recent years.  
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: kimpao on Dec 29, 2004 at 10:59 AM
sandawa,
thanks for the info this would help alot.  :D


Audioboy,
malaking tulong yan post mo. will inform you if operation is successful  ;D ;D


guys,
its really not much of a problem for me to upgrade.  my dilemma is what cables would you recommend.  :D thanks guys!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: arnoldc on Dec 29, 2004 at 11:04 AM
how much ar eyou willing to spend? phono cables make more impact than interconnects IME. YMMV and all disclaimers  ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: fotoslave on Dec 29, 2004 at 11:09 AM

guys,
its really not much of a problem for me to upgrade.  my dilemma is what cables would you recommend.  :D thanks guys!  ;D ;D ;D


sounds like money was never a problem for kim idol  :o  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: arnoldc on Dec 29, 2004 at 11:44 AM
cost no object ba? the best i've tried in my system is clearaudio sixstream. kayang kaya ni kimpao $800 lang kasi.  >:D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: s2kov on Dec 29, 2004 at 11:56 AM
$800 :o daming turntable na yun! ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: s2kov on Dec 29, 2004 at 11:58 AM
Btw, would M92E cartridge/stylus will fit with Audio Technica headshell? Tonearm is tube type.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: iceman90a on Dec 29, 2004 at 12:09 PM
if you're going to spend that much to upgrade your TT, wouldn't it make sense just to buy a better TT?  ???
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: synchro on Dec 29, 2004 at 12:17 PM
Btw, would M92E cartridge/stylus will fit with Audio Technica headshell? Tonearm is tube type.

yes. am using one as a spare (universal AT headshell and Shure M92) for my Technics
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: fotoslave on Dec 29, 2004 at 12:17 PM
if you're going to spend that much to upgrade your TT, wouldn't it make sense just to buy a better TT?  ???

o nga naman, Rega clone lang yung GR1 - why not buy the Rega instead ....  gawin mo ng Rega P9 para wala ng upgrade  ::)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: s2kov on Dec 29, 2004 at 12:46 PM
thanks! :)



yes. am using one as a spare (universal AT headshell and Shure M92) for my Technics
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: kimpao on Dec 29, 2004 at 01:08 PM
Phono cables ang iu-upgrade na punta na sa bagong TT. ano ba yan.  ;D  For $800, hmmmmm........ ipa install na lang ako ng NOS - Dry Fire sa 4G63T tapos pa sikkens ko pa auto ko.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: kimpao on Dec 29, 2004 at 01:35 PM
if you're going to spend that much to upgrade your TT, wouldn't it make sense just to buy a better TT?  ???

yun nga eh. :) i don't even see the point of spending so much for upgrades, wherein the cost of such is half or even more than half the cost of the unit.  :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: kimpao on Dec 29, 2004 at 01:55 PM


o nga naman, Rega clone lang yung GR1 - why not buy the Rega instead ....  gawin mo ng Rega P9 para wala ng upgrade  ::)

if ever i have the moolah, i would go for the VPI TNT Mk. 6  with a JMW-12.5 tonearm rather than a P9.  ;)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Narayan on Dec 29, 2004 at 02:01 PM
guys,
its really not much of a problem for me to upgrade.  my dilemma is what cables would you recommend.  :D thanks guys!  ;D ;D ;D


kim, i have a spare blue colored vintage audio technica rca interconnect with a thin wire in between that can be used as ground wire...am just not sure kung may spade lugs pa both ends ung thin wire...i have used a similar wire to replace the cable that came with my luxman TT which i recently sold...just drop by if you want to try it ;)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: arnoldc on Dec 29, 2004 at 03:16 PM
if ever i have the moolah, i would go for the VPI TNT Mk. 6  with a JMW-12.5 tonearm rather than a P9.  ;)
mukhang next year na ito  ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: kimpao on Dec 29, 2004 at 03:37 PM

mukhang next year na ito  ;D

in my dreams lang yan sir.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: stereophile on Dec 30, 2004 at 05:50 AM
if you're going to spend that much to upgrade your TT, wouldn't it make sense just to buy a better TT?  ???

iceman90 is correct. It makes more sense to buy a better table if you are planning to upgrade parts of the GR-1 (like using a CA six stream leadwire upgrade) other than the cart.

The Goldring GR-1 is not a Rega clone. It is a Rega P2 marketed under license by Rega for Goldring.  As such, the built-in phono IC is Rega spec.  I have set-up the GR-1 of a friend. I felt no compulsion to change the phono IC(unless if attacked by a rodent >:(). What my friend had me do is set-up the ttable correctly: adjust tracking force of the Elektra cart to 1.5gm, adjust anti-skate, make sure ttable is level using a bubble level. Like all Rega ttables, you can only adjust VTA with the proper shims. He wasn't too happy with the as-in the-box set-up. Anyway, after setting it up we tried a few LPs. Image focused solidly with more weight and body. It was so good, we tried a Coltrane 200gm re-issue by Classic Records ;D. My friend felt like this:  O0.  ;D  I told him not to mess around anymore with the adjustments. He has had no complaints and is happily spinning vinyl on his GR-1.

My suggestion is to work within the limits of your ttable. I believe the first thing any ttable owner should do is to adjust the plinth so that it is level on a heavy/solid table. Next, adjust the cart properly to his liking(VTA, Tracking Force, anti-skate, azimuth, etc.) You will then reap the maximum benefits of your ttable.

The biggest upgrade/most cost effective change is to change the cart. But there is a caveat: I do not recommend that it exceed the cost of your ttable. This is so for reasons of tone arm quality, rigidity, damping, motor isolation, etc. Using a cart w/c way exceeds the cost of your ttable, will reveal your 'tables limitations and point you to upgrading to a higher level of ttable. Bear in mind, that as you upgrade the turntable, the cart, speedbox, phonostage, phono cable, quality of vinyl, etc also has to be commensurate. This is the reason why ttable companies like Rega, Project, Basis, VPI, etc have different price points for their turntables. It all depends on what your budget is and the involvement you want to put into analog.

Happy Spinning to one and all, may you have a Happy and Safe New Year! We do need our fingers for cueing the stylus. ;)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on Dec 30, 2004 at 08:21 AM
i agree with stereophile 100%, especially on simple tweaks that we often overlook but make significant sonic improvement.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: stereophile on Dec 30, 2004 at 03:33 PM
Btw, the Audio Technica headshell fits all standard mount Technics ttables and most other japanese ttables. Yes, the M92, the M44-7 and other Shure carts can easily be mounted on the Audio Technica headshell. Don't forget to check the overhang when mounting the cart. I use the Audio Technica headshell as a spare for my SL1200 MkIII. Money for value, it's a great replacement headshell to spruce up your ttable.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Audioboy on Dec 30, 2004 at 04:48 PM
if you're going to spend that much to upgrade your TT, wouldn't it make sense just to buy a better TT?  ???

i believe kim wont dare spend 800 dollars for an upgrade on his GR1.

his prior post reveals that he wont even bother spend 5k for a phono cable.  maraming plaka na raw yun!  ;D ;D ;D





Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: kimpao on Dec 30, 2004 at 08:25 PM
thanks audioboy! :D mukhang pareho takbo ng isip natin.  ;D ;D yup! i'd rather spend the 5k or even the $800 on lp's. it's much wiser to invest on software than front-end upgrades.  ;) ;) 

i also do agree with you stereophile, proper set-up, isolation and placement will play a major role as to how the table will perform. :)

Guys,

IMHO, what's the use of having a thousand dollar turntable if you only have 20 to 30 lps to listen to.  ;)

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Control on Dec 30, 2004 at 08:29 PM
Guys,

IMHO, what's the using of having a thousand dollar turntable if you only have 20 to 30 lps to listen to.  ;)


Onga..kaya ibenta nyo na yang mga lp collection nyo kay Master Kim...dahil pangit ang plaka  ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: stereophile on Dec 30, 2004 at 11:28 PM
IMHO, what's the use of having a thousand dollar turntable if you only have 20 to 30 lps to listen to.  ;)

You'd be surprised. I know of some people who bought USD$2K+++ ttables who had 20-30 or less LPs in their collection when they began.

But I'd like to point out, these are audiophiles who were into analog long before, who used to own LPs, who sold/lost/destroyed...their LPs at the time of the CD forever revolution, and have since 'regretted'  that decision.  :'( They are currently trying to 'reconstruct' their past collection and adding new ones, including the re-issues (better than no copy at all). They are seriously into analog. Rather than go through the upgrade path, they made the conscious decision to go for an analog rig that they can settle into for many years to come and thus concentrate on the software/LP collecting(vinyl piranhas? >:D). Their rigs are in the mid to upper tiers of ttable brands.

Some, own more than 2-3 hi-end ttables. I even know of someone who has 8 ttables and is still looking for more.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: kimpao on Jan 01, 2005 at 10:59 PM
You'd be surprised. I know of some people who bought USD$2K+++ ttables who had 20-30 or less LPs in their collection when they began.

Not surprised since i personally know a couple of people (flithy rich  >:D ;D ) who bought rigs that cost them even more than USD 9K. yet, they only own around 40 to 50 lps.  :)

Da#n!.......  If I'm filthy rich, i'd definitely buy myself a high-end TT.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: iceman90a on Jan 02, 2005 at 10:54 AM
Not surprised since i personally know a couple of people (flithy rich >:D ;D ) who bought rigs that cost them even more than USD 9K. yet, they only own around 40 to 50 lps. :)

Da#n!....... If I'm filthy rich, i'd definitely buy myself a high-end TT. ;D ;D ;D

ang problema natin filthy lang tayo - wala yung rich >:D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: kimpao on Jan 02, 2005 at 12:27 PM
Ahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!.................. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: fotoslave on Jan 02, 2005 at 02:50 PM
nakakaatat talaga mag plaka.... dami ko nang nakulimbat na LPs but the problem is wala pang matinong TT  :(

iceman, AIWAnan mo na TT mo at aiWAWA lang talaga more than 200 LPs mo kung sa AIWA mo sya paiikutin. ika nga ni kim, give justice to your more than 200 LPs ;D

benta mo na sa aming mga newbies yan at magpalit ka na ng TT para di ka na mabibiTiTin ::)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: iceman90a on Jan 02, 2005 at 09:12 PM
type mo ba yung Aiwa? madali ako kausap >:D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: fotoslave on Jan 03, 2005 at 12:54 PM
type mo ba yung Aiwa? madali ako kausap >:D

mapagbigay ako ... para sa ibang kasama na lang natin yan  ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: iceman90a on Jan 03, 2005 at 12:57 PM
may Pro-ject 1.2 na available si Rene... reserved na ba iyon? >:D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: kimpao on Jan 03, 2005 at 01:01 PM
may Pro-ject 1.2 na available si Rene... reserved na ba iyon? >:D
Pre parang mas ok yung rega dun sa buy and sell thread.  ;D >:D Yung kay Rene di pa naka-reserve yun. ;)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: fotoslave on Jan 03, 2005 at 01:02 PM
old model yata Pro-Ject 1.2 and Pro-Ject 2. would rather wait for the new Rega P3.  ;D

nagpapahanap nako sa mga contact ko sa labas ng bansa kung wala dito ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: iceman90a on Jan 03, 2005 at 01:03 PM
old model yata Pro-Ject 1.2 and Pro-Ject 2. would rather wait for the new Rega P3.  ;D

he he he - pareho lang pala tayo: pakipot ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: kimpao on Jan 03, 2005 at 01:20 PM
Sir di bagay sa iyo P3. Dapat VPI...... >:D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 03, 2005 at 01:24 PM
ano ba yan pinaguusapan nyo? ps2 o kotse?  >:D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: kimpao on Jan 03, 2005 at 01:33 PM
ano ba yan pinaguusapan nyo? ps2 o kotse? >:D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
atari  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 03, 2005 at 01:38 PM
atari  ;D ;D

huh!?! atari? aba, ayus yan!  ;D ;D ;D ;D

sige, hindi na ako mang istorbo, seryosong usapang TT dito eh.  :o

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: kimpao on Jan 03, 2005 at 01:45 PM
huh!?! atari? aba, ayus yan! ;D ;D ;D ;D

sige, hindi na ako mang istorbo, seryosong usapang TT dito eh. :o

 ;D ;D ;D

Ahaha.......... Itim na discs din naman ang usapan eh.  ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 03, 2005 at 01:50 PM
Ahaha.......... Itim na discs din naman ang usapan eh.  ;D


oo nga, kaso ang lalaki! hehehe

mamaya mag shopping/hunting ako ng mga itim na cd discs, yun maliit lang ha hindi tulad ng gamit nyo sa TT nyo.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: kimpao on Jan 03, 2005 at 01:52 PM

oo nga, kaso ang lalaki! hehehe

mamaya mag shopping/hunting ako ng mga itim na cd discs, yun maliit lang ha hindi tulad ng gamit nyo sa TT nyo.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Meron naman maliliit nun, ah  :D  Yun nga lang 45 rpm ang takbo.  ;D ;D ;D meron ata ako nun  :o kay regine velasquez yung kanta niya na "urong - sulong ka".  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 03, 2005 at 01:55 PM
Meron naman maliliit nun, ah  :D  Yun nga lang 45 rpm ang takbo.  ;D ;D ;D meron ata ako nun  :o kay regine velasquez yung kanta niya na "urong - sulong ka".  ;D ;D ;D


malaki pa din yun eh! tsaka ang laki ng butas nun!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: ding2lang-ako on Jan 08, 2005 at 04:34 PM
hello sirs/madams,

  I'm new to this topic, just wanted to ask kung saan makakabili ng TT on reasonable price. Dami pa kasi LP ng mother ko and nasira na yung TT nya. Gusto ko sana ibili sya ng kapalit as a gift. And magkano kaya ang 1 unit.

Thanks for the reply.
 
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Jan 09, 2005 at 08:10 PM
Its nice to see this topic is very much alive! :D

Long live ANALOG! O0
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Audioboy on Jan 10, 2005 at 09:00 AM
Audioboy,
malaking tulong yan post mo. will inform you if operation is successful  ;D ;D

operation successful! ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Jan 23, 2005 at 09:01 AM
Guys,

I need help just bought a pro-ject debut two, I'm new to analog and I'm having some trouble setting up the turntable....

I've tried following the instructions detailed but when I tried playing a record the sound wasn't clear.

A couple of questions:

1.) With regards to cartridge downforce adjustment, It says that the armtube should balance out does this mean that the arm should somehow float over the record.

2.) The tonearm came with a prefitted Ortofon cartridge, there is a section in the instruction manual about adjusting the azimut (what does this mean?) do I still need to do this even if the cartridge is prefitted?

3.) One of the parts included with the turntable is an anti-skating weight is this an essential part?

If you guys could give me detailed instructions on how to do it properly it would be most welcomed, I'm a total newbie when it comes to analog so guys I really need your help.

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on Jan 23, 2005 at 07:06 PM
Makikisawsaw lang po.

1.) With regards to cartridge downforce adjustment, It says that the armtube should balance out does this mean that the arm should somehow float over the record.

When starting, get the tonearm balanced (arm should float) and set the vertical tracking force to zero. Then, adjust the vertical tracking force through the tonearm's counterweight at a figure recommended for your cartridge. If you're using the ULM Ortofon (OM or Concorde models), it should be about 1 gram. If it's the bigger Ortofons, set VTF from 1.5 to 2 grams.

2.) The tonearm came with a prefitted Ortofon cartridge, there is a section in the instruction manual about adjusting the azimut (what does this mean?) do I still need to do this even if the cartridge is prefitted?

If your record deck is pre-fitted with a cartridge, it should have the correct azimuth (diamond stylus sits perpendicular to the record groove ensuring optimum contact for left and right grooves that correspond to recorded left and right channels.) If you were provided a gauge, use it to confirm that the adjustment is okay. Ocular inspection and adjustment, by using a mirror and small screwdriver, could help you if you don't have a gauge.

3.) One of the parts included with the turntable is an anti-skating weight is this an essential part?

Yes, very much. The anti-skating adjustment would prevent your cartridge from sliding in or resisting correct tracking of record groove. The anti-skating force is generally within the range of the vertical tracking force. Thus, if you set at 1 gram VTF, set the anti-skating force also at 1.

In many cases, adjustments in VTF and anti-skating are "oido" or depending on what you hear. In my experience, the higher recommended VTF gives the best sonic results. But it also increases wear of the record grooves. Btw, very low VTF setting aimed at saving the record is also harmful since your stylus would cut into the vinyl resulting in tonearm/cartridge jumps. The same is true for wrong anti-skating force. Inaccurate setting would also increase diamond stylus wear.

Analog requires a lot patience and hefty investments nowadays. Still, congratulations and hoping you'll enjoy your new toy.
 
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Jan 23, 2005 at 09:49 PM
Thanks for the tips sandawa!  I sort of found the problem...I didn't stick the counter weight on the tone arm properly so the front of the tonearm was light and was bouncing on the record....will fine tune it when I get home later.

Thanks a lot for the tips...if I have any problems I hope you don't mind if I send you a pm and ask more questions.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: stereophile on Jan 25, 2005 at 04:57 AM
dracula- when all else fails, you can bring it to a Project dealer and have them 'set-up' your turntable again.  ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 25, 2005 at 04:30 PM
Scouting for cart & stylus for SL-1700 can decide whether White label or M44-7?? ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Jan 25, 2005 at 08:33 PM
I'm using a Technics SL1700 + Shure M44-7 (cartridge courtesy of stereophile). :)  I'm more than happy with the combo. O0
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 25, 2005 at 08:36 PM
I'm using a Technics SL1700 + Shure M44-7 (cartridge courtesy of stereophile). :)  I'm more than happy with the combo. O0

Talaga M44-7 ang nakakaraming Masters.. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: kimpao on Jan 26, 2005 at 12:38 AM
MSM, stereophile

any thoughts from the gurus regarding goldring electra cart and technics combi?

thanks. :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Jan 26, 2005 at 05:18 AM
dracula- when all else fails, you can bring it to a Project dealer and have them 'set-up' your turntable again.  ;D

The turntable is working fine.

Thanks
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: stereophile on Jan 27, 2005 at 12:58 AM
MSM, stereophile

any thoughts from the gurus regarding goldring electra cart and technics combi?

thanks. :D :D :D :D



Haven't tried that combo yet. Don't have an Elektra cart to try on my rig. Btw, I'm not a guru...MSM is! >:D You da man, MSM! O0
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Jan 27, 2005 at 08:06 AM
Haven't tried that combo yet. Don't have an Elektra cart to try on my rig. Btw, I'm not a guru...MSM is! >:D You da man, MSM! O0

I have not tried an Elekta either. 

stereophile is D'MAN! O0
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Lord Foo on Aug 16, 2005 at 05:28 PM
I never planned to get a TT right now...may be later, i thought, when I've studied the subject matter.

But i found a technics sl1300 in a thrift shop this morning. I passed up a dual 502-2 and a pioneer pl 5something... i hope i did right.

I really don't know anything about TTs. I was hoping i'd get it by luck the first time. At home, i hooked up the TT to my sansui aud707xdecade.

There was an old Jim Croce record somewhere in the house...powered up the TT... pressed tha start lever...The arm just skidded rightwards..no sound just hum from the amp, then the arm went back to home base.

Now i don't know what to do next.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Narayan on Aug 17, 2005 at 01:24 PM
lordfoo,

bro, i use a technics 1310. its an identical model except that the color is gray. i can only guess that the settings on your table are improper. i live in q.c. (batasan area). maybe you can bring over your unit to my place and we can hook my cartridge to your unit using my unit's settings as reference and see if it plays properly. hope this helps.

you can pm me or text at 09189007773.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Lord Foo on Aug 18, 2005 at 06:23 PM
Sir narayan,

thank you for the help offer. I also got posts from Audio Karma extolling the virtues of the the Dual 505.2 vs the SL1300. So... I went back to the thrift shop and exchanged the SL1300 with the Dual 505.2.  Happily for me, the Dual 505 started grooving. Now i gotta look for discs.

Foo
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Narayan on Aug 19, 2005 at 01:14 PM
congrats on your new table bro ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on Aug 19, 2005 at 07:04 PM
Sir narayan,

thank you for the help offer. I also got posts from Audio Karma extolling the virtues of the the Dual 505.2 vs the SL1300. So... I went back to the thrift shop and exchanged the SL1300 with the Dual 505.2. Happily for me, the Dual 505 started grooving. Now i gotta look for discs.

Foo

back in the '80s, Dual is a favorite TT brand among audio enthusiasts here. not anymore these days, since new Pinoy hifi converts prefer new production turntables, including vintage Japanese models. got no problem with that, but curiously, Dual, Garrard, BSR and other vintage brands and equipment are still highly regarded by audio enthusiasts worldwide, especially in the US.

me? i'm probably a bit biased in favor of our Jap neighbors. got 3 Technics and 2 vintage Duals - best of both worlds. 
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Lord Foo on Aug 22, 2005 at 09:38 AM
5 Turntables? collector ka talaga Sir Sandawa....
OT... my brod replaced the capacitors of the KEF 104ab. he says its like a lower end version of the AR90. its impressive at low volumes and small rooms.. i still have to check it out.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on Aug 22, 2005 at 10:03 AM
not 5, i got 10 total but would be reduced by two this month - my Thorens 320 and Technics SL-1200 are already committed to my brother in Manila - so, 8 na lang.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: s2kov on Aug 22, 2005 at 12:50 PM
Hi sandawa,

Are you familiar with this Pioneer MC stylus?

(http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/6668/pn41mc5lb.jpg)

Maybe you can help me identify on what compatible cart can be used and where to get it.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Lord Foo on Aug 22, 2005 at 01:28 PM
ten turntables? whoa!! instead of discarding the two units, you should get two more to make it an even dozen.  :D

Hey Mr. Sandawa, I saw a Pioneer pl630 being sold as is for 3500 php. Walang cartridge. di naman mukhang dilapidated. Seems like a high price for an As is unit. I tried to lift it...it didnt budge an inch... Man! It felt as if it weighed like a 100 watt vintage amplifier.

Is this a good model?  ???

addendum:

I found the model at the vintage knob
http://www.thevintageknob.org/PIONEER/PL630/PL630.html
it weighed 12 kgs.

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on Aug 22, 2005 at 03:15 PM
Hi sandawa,

Are you familiar with this Pioneer MC stylus?

(http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/6668/pn41mc5lb.jpg)

Maybe you can help me identify on what compatible cart can be used and where to get it.

andy,

not familiar with that Pioneer stylus but check at Raon, bring it there. i wonder if it's really an MC, kasi, moving coil cartridges usually have fixed stylus assembly, hindi puwedeng tanggalin, pag nasira tapon na ang buong cartridge. but that could be an exception.

foo,

neither am i familiar with that Pioneer turntable, but if its very heavy and it's working fine - buy it if it's not priced like gold. better if you could test it, bring your own headshell and cartridge - standard naman 'yan.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: s2kov on Aug 22, 2005 at 03:49 PM
Hi nani,

Thanks. It is indeed an MC stylus and it was confirmed to me by turntableneedle when i was inquiring for compatible cartridge. Instead, they offer me to swap it with their complete MM cartridge and record cleaning accessories.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on Aug 22, 2005 at 06:01 PM
oo nga, nakita ko rin. mukhang rare/collectors' item yang nakuha mo.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Lord Foo on Aug 29, 2005 at 06:25 PM
Mga sirs,


Please advise naman what "shell", "needle", are available locally that I can use for my Pioneer Turntable pl630. I acquired it yesterday with just the arm and without the dust cover also. I'd go for 2nd hand, or surplus as long as maganda tunog and matched sa turntable ko po.  Post advices na rin po re: my PL630.  I am barely a few weeks into the Turntable hobby.

regards,
Foo
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on Aug 30, 2005 at 08:26 AM
sir, of you can wait till January, i can give you a Pioneer original headshell in exchange for a can of cold Coke Diet. if you immediately need one badly, check out Raon, especially the old Pioneer shop (nasa loob 'yan - you can ask oldtimers from the other shops for direction) between Evangelista and Avenida. don't say you're installing your headshell on a PL630, otherwise mamahalan ka ng mga 'yan. 
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Aug 30, 2005 at 10:13 AM
hi sir sandawa and foo!...i'll be in davao sept. 15 to 25, if this is just a small item, i may be able to bring them back to manila, and foo may just pick it up from me at my office...thanks! :D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: ramble_on on Aug 30, 2005 at 10:31 AM
sir foo, check the area beside and in front of the deeco building (raon side). i saw a a couple of stores that were selling carts and stylii. yung stylii were packed in transparent cases; some had stickers indicating the models that they were supposed to serve as replacements for while some had none.

try not asking the sales personnel that you're looking for turntable stuff; in my experience, chances are you'll just get blank stares. go straight to the display counters instead.

during my last foray there, i was able to buy a NOS nagaoka cart. there were still a couple left.

hope this helps.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: ramble_on on Aug 30, 2005 at 10:37 AM
hi sir sandawa and foo!...i'll be in davao sept. 15 to 25, if this is just a small item, i may be able to bring them back to manila, and foo may just pick it up from me at my office...thanks! :D

sir supes, pwede magpa bili ng cd player?  :D
Title: turntables
Post by: gob on Aug 30, 2005 at 01:41 PM
what brand would you recommend, that has a very good quality, sound and specially affordable price?

i know theres alot to choose from like technics, denon, panasonic etc.

pls share your views :)
Title: Re: turntables
Post by: Superman on Aug 30, 2005 at 01:47 PM
you can check these links:

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=6552.0

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=29835.0
Title: Re: turntables
Post by: synchro_01 on Aug 30, 2005 at 01:48 PM
if you are into pre-owned T/T's then try to look out for Technics TTables.  Parts availability, easy to service and not to mention that it is built to last. you can tailor its sound by changing the cartridge to better ones that are readily available in the market.  My Technics T/Table is already 22 years old (had it since new) and it still provides great sound and performance up to now.
Title: Re: turntables
Post by: ramble_on on Aug 30, 2005 at 01:52 PM
i had the good fortune of acquiring a technics turntable (circa 79) a couple of months ago through the kindness of sir sandawa. solidly built and in very good condition.

bang for the buck (more so for the higher-end models).
Title: Re: turntables
Post by: Jagner on Aug 30, 2005 at 01:52 PM
If you're not limited on the above brands, you may want to try the Pro-ject Debut III or the Goldring GR1:  Both are just entry-level turn tables but highly rated and comparable to their higher-priced counterparts

Cheers.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Jagner on Aug 30, 2005 at 02:05 PM
sir foo, check the area beside and in front of the deeco building (raon side). i saw a a couple of stores that were selling carts and stylii. yung stylii were packed in transparent cases; some had stickers indicating the models that they were supposed to serve as replacements for while some had none.

try not asking the sales personnel that you're looking for turntable stuff; in my experience, chances are you'll just get blank stares. go straight to the display counters instead.

during my last foray there, i was able to buy a NOS nagaoka cart. there were still a couple left.

hope this helps.

One of them is SOLID Electronics.  The carts and stylii are at the left display cabinet near the door.
Title: Re: turntables
Post by: gob on Aug 30, 2005 at 10:59 PM
tnx guys for all the replys,  well i heard a lot good news about technics

ill try to research more specially with this brand
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Lord Foo on Aug 31, 2005 at 10:25 PM
Hi Sir Sandawa and sir superman...maraming salamat sa offer of help. Who am i to check a gift horse in the mouth? Sirs kung di makakaabala masyado...the original pioneer needle will be very much appreciated...

In the meantime i will try to find time to check out the raon sites mentioned. I am very hopeful that the PL630 will be okay when I've acquired the shell/needle  for the unit. The store helper and another buyer said that they used to crank up the unit play 33 lps until somebody, stole the shell.

Also the past week, i have been using a Dual 505.2 and have already acquired about a dozen LPs. Di pa ako marunong mamili ng LPs but I noticed that those made in the US seem to sound better than the locally pressed one. Is this a general situation? Any pointers in looking for good LPs?

I found a pristine Manhattan Transfer album (the one with A nightingale sang in berkeley square), a few Rayconnif Singer albums, Queen, etc.

I just washed the album with soap and faucet water  before playing avoiding soaking the paper label. Is this alright?

BTW i inspected the arms of the Dual and the Pioneer PL630 hoping that I can transfer the Duals shell to the the pioneer for testing purposes. No dice. They do not seem to have the same design.

also BTW, the dual sounded very good.

Hmmm... Offhand, can you guys mention brands of shells that I should lookout for? i really have no idea which brands to look out for?



Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: ramble_on on Aug 31, 2005 at 10:37 PM
you can try the bang-for-the-buck audio-technica head shells at audiophile, cost me around php 380.

a trip to raon would be highly recommended...you'll never know what 'treasures' you might find there.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on Sep 01, 2005 at 06:09 AM
Hi Sir Sandawa and sir superman...maraming salamat sa offer of help. Who am i to check a gift horse in the mouth? Sirs kung di makakaabala masyado...the original pioneer needle will be very much appreciated...


the only thing i can give you is a Pioneer headshell. using an Audio Technica, or Shure, cartridge would be an upgrade from using an original Pioneer cart/stylus for your PL630. ramble_on is correct, check sources in Raon, but Audiophile should be an option.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: gob on Sep 03, 2005 at 08:46 PM
guys i have some few questions regarding TT, im still newbie in analog. im just using an old TT built-in our compo.  can anybody tell the difference in Belt Drive Turntable Systems, Belt Drive Linear Tracking Turntable Systems, Direct Drive Turntable Systems & Direct Drive Linear Tracking Turntable Systems?

and which of the four is commonly use and available here?

last is it possible example a technics TT with curved style tonearm be replace with straight tonearm like in gr1?

:)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Lord Foo on Sep 06, 2005 at 06:32 PM
the only thing i can give you is a Pioneer headshell. using an Audio Technica, or Shure, cartridge would be an upgrade from using an original Pioneer cart/stylus for your PL630. ramble_on is correct, check sources in Raon, but Audiophile should be an option.

I went to Deeco. I even lugged the heavy pioneer turntable with me. We checked a box of needles and shells. Wala. Nada.
Meron pioneer ang tatak na needle pero walang shell.

I wonder, do i just mention the model of the turntable when i look for shell and needle? What about replacement kaya? How do i know if the audio technica or shure cartridge will fit the arm of my turntable?

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: ramble_on on Sep 06, 2005 at 10:33 PM
sir foo, sorry to hear about your deeco sojourn.

anyways, probably the first thing to check is if your tonearm accepts universal headshells (baka proprietary pioneer headshells lang, which will further complicate the situation).

cheers.

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on Sep 07, 2005 at 09:03 AM
as far as i know PL 630's tonearm is standard S-shape, which means you can install on it any headshell brand.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: rustyns on Sep 09, 2005 at 02:56 PM
Hello,

I've never had a turntable. Magtatanong sana ako kung merong may experience using pioneer pl-512.  Meron kasi akong nakitang murang mura. Mukhang kumpleto except for the belt and it seems to be working. Any comments on this model?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Lord Foo on Sep 14, 2005 at 10:27 AM
My Pioneer pl630 still has no shell and stylus...Still using the Dual 505.2. On my brother's advice I have connected a Harman Kardon Citation Eleven Pre amplifier to the Sansui AUD707Gextra and bypassed the Sansui preamp to make use of the Harman Kardon's phone circuit.

The Dual definitely played better specially the Mid and Highs.

A cousin plunked a Sony PS 333 turntable (nagano Turntable it says) and a Marantz TT2200.
The Sony has no needle and the arm is broken.

However the marantz played sweetly when I plugged it in. Can anyone give info on the Marantz TT2200? I understand from an AK discussion I read a while back that the best Marantz TTs are the 6000+ series.

UPdated with pics

PL630
 
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c289/Lordfoo/DSCN0628.jpg)

PL516

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c289/Lordfoo/DSCN0808.jpg)

The Dual 505.2. (apologies for the alikabok)

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c289/Lordfoo/DSCN0809.jpg)

regards,
Foo
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: shuttertrigger on Sep 14, 2005 at 01:02 PM
Hello,

I've never had a turntable. Magtatanong sana ako kung merong may experience using pioneer pl-512.  Meron kasi akong nakitang murang mura. Mukhang kumpleto except for the belt and it seems to be working. Any comments on this model?

sir, san nyo po nakita? thanks.. :D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Lord Foo on Sep 14, 2005 at 03:23 PM
sir, san nyo po nakita? thanks.. :D

Actually, dala ng pinsan ko galing probinsiya yung marantz tt2200. But sabi sa AudioKarma. plastic crap daw ung 2200..  Ang maganda daw sa marantz ung 6000+ series.

Ung Pioneer pl630 nabili ko po "as is" from a thrift shop at aurora blvd cubao, Q.C. Near EDSA na un. on the right side if you are going to katipunan from EDSA. May mga turntables sila. I even saw a garrard na gumagana pero nakakabit sa console ba tawag dun? ung may AM/FM. Medyo mahal lang tinda dito kaya ung mga As IS lang ang binibili ko sa kanila.

You can try din ung Evanglista thrift shops sa pasay. May tinawaran ako na Pioneer Pl 514 doon last weekend for 700 php. Pumayag pero di ko kinuha kasi walang rubber belt and walang shell nor needle. But when plugged in the motor was running. and passable naman ung cosmetic condition niya.

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: shuttertrigger on Sep 14, 2005 at 03:29 PM
Actually, dala ng pinsan ko galing probinsiya yung marantz tt2200. But sabi sa AudioKarma. plastic crap daw ung 2200..  Ang maganda daw sa marantz ung 6000+ series.

Ung Pioneer pl630 nabili ko po "as is" from a thrift shop at aurora blvd cubao, Q.C. Near EDSA na un. on the right side if you are going to katipunan from EDSA. May mga turntables sila. I even saw a garrard na gumagana pero nakakabit sa console ba tawag dun? ung may AM/FM. Medyo mahal lang tinda dito kaya ung mga As IS lang ang binibili ko sa kanila.

You can try din ung Evanglista thrift shops sa pasay. May tinawaran ako na Pioneer Pl 514 doon last weekend for 700 php. Pumayag pero di ko kinuha kasi walang rubber belt and walang shell nor needle. But when plugged in the motor was running. and passable naman ung cosmetic condition niya.



ah ok ...hope that you post more about those cheap TT..im into hunt kasi..medyo budget concious as of now..thanks sir.. ;)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Jairus on Sep 30, 2005 at 03:12 PM
You can try din ung Evanglista thrift shops sa pasay. May tinawaran ako na Pioneer Pl 514 doon last weekend for 700 php. Pumayag pero di ko kinuha kasi walang rubber belt and walang shell nor needle. But when plugged in the motor was running. and passable naman ung cosmetic condition niya.

Bro..san ba banda sa Evangelista yan? Any landmarks? Thanks!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Lord Foo on Oct 01, 2005 at 09:30 AM
Bro..san ba banda sa Evangelista yan? Any landmarks? Thanks!

Jairrus,

I don't know the store name nor the exact street name. Nag iikot kasi ako sa area looking for LP records.

Kung nasa Evangelista ka, galing sa EDSA, you have to turn right on one of the streets in the thrift shop areas. Tabi tabi naman ung mga stores dun eh. After turning right from evangelista, the store is in one of the stores on the right. Inside the store you will immediately see the turntable.

If I have the chance to go there again, i will check out the unit and post a message.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Jairus on Oct 07, 2005 at 09:20 AM
Thanks bro..will try to pass by there sometime :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: av_phile1 on Oct 07, 2005 at 10:27 AM

The Dual definitely played better specially the Mid and Highs.


During my LP days, the DUAL is looked up among audiophiles.  Like Garrard and Thorens.  It stands above most commercial turntables.  I read that's because the brand is a specialty brand that concentrates its R&D and production on turntables only in the 70s and 80s.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Lord Foo on Oct 08, 2005 at 12:37 AM
Alang binatbat ung dual 505.2 ko sa pioneer pl630.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Jairus on Oct 10, 2005 at 11:30 AM
Went to the Evangelista thrift shops last Saturday to scout for a turntable.  Saw a Technics SLBD30 and an SL1500 (didn't have the chance to test them though; are these models any good?).  Was tempted to buy on-the-spot a fully-functioning SL1200 mkII (except for a busted light? and stains in the chassis), however I dont know if the price is reasonable and I'm clueless on the things to consider in buying a used unit.  Although we tested it on some LPs and it sounded great, the guy there even tilted it 45 degrees and it didn't skip a beat :o

Any advise/comments? How much ba is the going rate for an SL1200 MK II?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: iceman90a on Oct 10, 2005 at 04:54 PM
how much were they selling the 1200mk2?

which light was busted? the strobe or the pop up cue light?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: s2kov on Oct 10, 2005 at 05:13 PM
if it's the strobe, i think the new replacement will cost you around php2.5k! ;)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Jairus on Oct 11, 2005 at 08:47 AM
It's the pop-up cue light which is busted. How much and saan ba nagpapa repair nito?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: s2kov on Oct 11, 2005 at 10:28 AM
there is this guy from malabon, name robert ( i forgot his address) who is specialized on technics turntable. he can also provide you all the parts (new) that needs replacement for your SL1200! :)

It's the pop-up cue light which is busted. How much and saan ba nagpapa repair nito?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Jairus on Oct 12, 2005 at 09:12 AM
there is this guy from malabon, name robert ( i forgot his address) who is specialized on technics turntable. he can also provide you all the parts (new) that needs replacement for your SL1200! :)


Thanks! I hope you can PM me how I can contact him.  :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Lord Foo on Oct 12, 2005 at 11:54 AM
Sir,

The last issue's "buy and sell" prices for turntables are:


GARARD TURNTABLE  5,000  (neg) antique, mint cond. (0917) 8043532. 
TECHNICS TURNTABLE  8,000  SL210, pair, w/ mixer. (0927) 5229223. 
TEchNIcS TURNTABLE  4,000  SL-Q2. 931-3906. 
TECHNICS TURNTABLE  12,000  Sl1200 MK2, direct drive. 412-7342. 

I think i saw that unit at evangelista, that's where i also saw the Pioneer 512 na tinawaran ko ng 700 Php at pumayag pero di ko binili.

Foo
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Jairus on Oct 12, 2005 at 04:08 PM
Lordfoo..Sent you PM  :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: aldrinpsx on Oct 25, 2005 at 05:44 AM
My new toy...Numark TT1650 Professional Turntable

(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/79/numarktt16509bb.jpg)

peace!!!!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: aldrinpsx on Oct 25, 2005 at 05:52 AM
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Technics SLDZ1200 Digital CD Turntable

Eto sana gusto ko..kaso..... $900  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

peace!!!!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Lord Foo on Oct 25, 2005 at 10:44 AM
My Pioneer pl630 still has no shell and stylus...Still using the Dual 505.2. On my brother's advice I have connected a Harman Kardon Citation Eleven Pre amplifier to the Sansui AUD707Gextra and bypassed the Sansui preamp to make use of the Harman Kardon's phone circuit.

The Dual definitely played better specially the Mid and Highs.

A cousin plunked a Sony PS 333 turntable (nagano Turntable it says) and a Marantz TT2200.
The Sony has no needle and the arm is broken.

However the marantz played sweetly when I plugged it in. Can anyone give info on the Marantz TT2200? I understand from an AK discussion I read a while back that the best Marantz TTs are the 6000+ series.

UPdated with pics

PL630
 
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c289/Lordfoo/DSCN0628.jpg)

PL516

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c289/Lordfoo/DSCN0808.jpg)

The Dual 505.2. (apologies for the alikabok)

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c289/Lordfoo/DSCN0809.jpg)

regards,
Foo

I found a PL516 with a pioneer shell. But still no needle. The shell fits the PL630's arm.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: shuttertrigger on Oct 25, 2005 at 11:13 AM
any member here knows where to buy goldring stylus? thanks in advance.. ;)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: bono on Oct 25, 2005 at 09:08 PM
 Hi! I found an old pioneer pl514 turntable at our basement . I test the unit and the motor still running. so, i brought it to my friend house who is a diy fanatic and he told me we have to change those wire for tonearm the thin red,white,green & blue. pls. help us where we can buy those wire for tonearm. thanks in advance mga idol.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: C.O.2 on Nov 02, 2005 at 11:53 AM
 ??? Hi guys! just tested a second hand sansui tt which i bought from the othe buy and sell. My problem is that the needle kept on sliding when it touched the surface of the record. Can you guys please tell me to solve my problem  :'(. Atat na po ako makinig ng vinyl. Thanks!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on Nov 02, 2005 at 12:45 PM
simply adjust the anti-skating knob near the tonearm post. if it still fails, the anti-skating mechanism is already defective - needs mechanical repair inside.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: shuttertrigger on Nov 02, 2005 at 01:04 PM
??? Hi guys! just tested a second hand sansui tt which i bought from the othe buy and sell. My problem is that the needle kept on sliding when it touched the surface of the record. Can you guys please tell me to solve my problem  :'(. Atat na po ako makinig ng vinyl. Thanks!

bro, this is also my problem before.. pero na-solve ko agad by adjusting the stylus force to 1 kung meron ganong adjustment yung TT mo, check mo rin.. yung akin kasi pag less than 1 bumabalik balik yung needle..
Otherwise, sabi nga ni sir sandawa, baka may ibang problema..thanks  ;)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: bono on Nov 02, 2005 at 01:09 PM
Hi! I found an old pioneer pl514 turntable at our basement . I test the unit and the motor still running. so, i brought it to my friend house who is a diy fanatic and he told me we have to change those wire for tonearm the thin red,white,green & blue. pls. help us where we can buy those wire for tonearm. thanks in advance mga idol.

Sir Sandawa,
    
         Pls. help me regarding my problem of where i can find those wire. thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2005 at 01:44 PM
Sir Sandawa,
     
         Pls. help me regarding my problem of where i can find those wire. thanks in advance!

Bro try mo si Ihatejazz ( clearaudio ) sa wiredstate baka meron sya for sale na wire good for your toearm.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on Nov 02, 2005 at 02:50 PM
Sir Sandawa,
     
         Pls. help me regarding my problem of where i can find those wire. thanks in advance!

tama si Hans, matagal na akong wala sa Maynila kaya hindi na ako updated sa sources ng TT accessories dyan. kung barat ka tulad ko, first destination would be Raon - kailangan makulit ka, sa matatanda ka magtatanong - yung mga bata dyan ibang TT ang alam ;D. second destination, junk shops sa Bangkal, yung iba  may tinatago pang unusable headshells na may nakakabit pang wires. tawaran mo ng P100 ibibigay sa 'yo isang set na. pag wala, no choice, buy new from the hifi shops. price could range from as low as P500 (old price for one set of Audio Technica silver) to as high as several Gs.

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: C.O.2 on Nov 02, 2005 at 03:46 PM
 :) Thank you sir cire and sandawa. Try ko lahat baka mag improve. Daghang salamat!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: shuttertrigger on Nov 02, 2005 at 03:51 PM
:) Thank you sir cire and sandawa. Try ko lahat baka mag improve. Daghang salamat!

glad to be of help bro.. ;)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Dec 22, 2005 at 05:03 AM
Guys,

I purchased a Project Debut III when I was in the UK......we used it for a while when we were there and it was working fine I had it shipped to the Philippines just arrived yesterday when I tried it the speed of the plate was all wrong I tried switching the belt and using 45's and 33's but I was still getting chipmunk sounds from the turntable.....the voltage in the UK is 240 volts.....is the turntable busted or am I just doing something wrong? Or do I need to purchase something to make the thing usable here in the philippines?

Your help would be greatly appreciated Thanks ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: bono on Dec 22, 2005 at 06:29 AM
Sir Hans & Sandawa , Thanks sa advise. sorry sa late reply mga idol. :) :) :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: arnoldc on Dec 22, 2005 at 07:10 AM
dracula, the UK is 50Hz and the Philippines is 60Hz. It's not the voltage, but the AC frquency. You need to find a 60Hz pulley from the distributor.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 22, 2005 at 07:22 AM
Guys,

Any remedy for a 50hz motor??  :) :) TIA
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: kimpao on Dec 22, 2005 at 07:37 AM
Guys,

Any remedy for a 50hz motor??  :) :) TIA

Palitan mo.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 22, 2005 at 07:44 AM
Palitan mo.  ;D ;D ;D

San ba meron thorens 60hz motor? di ba pwede rewind ulit? ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: arnoldc on Dec 22, 2005 at 07:45 AM
guys, you don't need a new motor, you just need a different pulley.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 22, 2005 at 07:50 AM
guys, you don't need a new motor, you just need a different pulley.

San kaya meron sir. :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: arnoldc on Dec 22, 2005 at 08:27 AM
hans for the thorens, sa web na yan. i just don't remember kung anong site yung nakita ko dait, but since wala akong thorens di ko tinandaan. try to google, and specify the model.

for the project, dracula, you can talk to pican or audio den.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on Dec 22, 2005 at 10:17 AM
Guys,

I purchased a Project Debut III when I was in the UK......we used it for a while when we were there and it was working fine I had it shipped to the Philippines just arrived yesterday when I tried it the speed of the plate was all wrong I tried switching the belt and using 45's and 33's but I was still getting chipmunk sounds from the turntable.....the voltage in the UK is 240 volts.....is the turntable busted or am I just doing something wrong? Or do I need to purchase something to make the thing usable here in the philippines?

Your help would be greatly appreciated Thanks ;D

the last time i had that problem (common to belt drives from UK and Australia) was 20 years ago. bought a Dual TT made for Aussie market (50cps vs. 60cps for RP). there was no locally available pulley replacement, so I brought the unit to De Guzman of Audiophile. he said the pulley needs machine shop work (palagay ko liha lang ang ginamit). it was fixed three days later and i was charged P200 for the job, but that was 20 years ago. best thing is to order a replacement pulley, but if you think it's impractical, consult Audiophile's oldtimers. 
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 22, 2005 at 10:25 AM
My new toy...Numark TT1650 Professional Turntable

(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/79/numarktt16509bb.jpg)

peace!!!!


Is the same one displayed at 5th Avenue in Park Square?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 22, 2005 at 02:54 PM
hans for the thorens, sa web na yan. i just don't remember kung anong site yung nakita ko dait, but since wala akong thorens di ko tinandaan. try to google, and specify the model.

for the project, dracula, you can talk to pican or audio den.

arnoldc, thanks will try that hope cheap yun replacement pulley.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: arnoldc on Dec 23, 2005 at 07:40 AM
hans, ingat ka lang sa pagbaklas ng pulley sa motor. btw, i remember there is a guy who restores thorens table here. you can go to wiredstate and ping mo si red76, kilala nya yung nag re-restore ng thorens. baka meron na sila nun.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: aldrinpsx on Dec 23, 2005 at 11:35 AM
Is the same one displayed at 5th Avenue in Park Square?

Got no idea sir. ;D ;D

peace!!!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: aldrinpsx on Dec 23, 2005 at 11:37 AM
(http://www.stantondj.com/v2/images/products/dmaster_main.jpg)

The old one died..got this as a replacement..Stanton Discmaster II

peace!!!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: markmlists on Jan 26, 2006 at 11:39 AM
hi.

I got an sansui p-m330 turntable that needs servicing. Aside from Fil Audio, can anyone recommed a good turntable repair shop? Where can I source belts, tonearms and other parts?

Any assistance is appreciated.

Thanks
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 26, 2006 at 07:15 PM
I should think some stores catering to DJ or professional audio needs like Audiophile at Makati Cinema Square carry them.  I recall seeing Shure and Audio-Technica banners there.

Also, Raon in Quiapo may be a good place to start looking. 
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: juvinyl on Jan 26, 2006 at 09:19 PM
Hi,

I'm just new here and a turntable user.  I'd been scanning the previous pages looking for the information about my problem pero ang haba na ng thread.  So, I just start here na lang...

My unit is denon dp-29F, mumurahin lang pero maganda din tumunog.  The sound is very clear and rich kaso lang meron lang konti problema (matagal na rin hanggang hinayaan ko lang kasi wala naman pwede mapagtanongan).

It is about this irritating humming sound I'm sure coming from the turntable  kasi kahit naka off and TT basta nakakabit ang kanyang stereo RCAs naghuhuming parin.  And the worst is, if the ground wire is connected to my integrated amp's grounding, lalong lumalakas ang humming even at low volume.  So what I did (based on my internet readings) I just remove the ground wire and keep it hanging and the humming is minimized, pero kahit minimal hindi pa rin acceptable para sa akin, hind ba?

For now I just have my music + humming noise.  Can somebody tell me what's should be the solution?

Thanks.

 

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on Jan 26, 2006 at 09:47 PM
loose connection anywhere on the links between the cartridge and the phono jacks on the amp.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: MiniCooper on Jan 27, 2006 at 10:36 AM
Hi,

I'm just new here and a turntable user.  I'd been scanning the previous pages looking for the information about my problem pero ang haba na ng thread.  So, I just start here na lang...

My unit is denon dp-29F, mumurahin lang pero maganda din tumunog.  The sound is very clear and rich kaso lang meron lang konti problema (matagal na rin hanggang hinayaan ko lang kasi wala naman pwede mapagtanongan).

It is about this irritating humming sound I'm sure coming from the turntable  kasi kahit naka off and TT basta nakakabit ang kanyang stereo RCAs naghuhuming parin.  And the worst is, if the ground wire is connected to my integrated amp's grounding, lalong lumalakas ang humming even at low volume.  So what I did (based on my internet readings) I just remove the ground wire and keep it hanging and the humming is minimized, pero kahit minimal hindi pa rin acceptable para sa akin, hind ba?

For now I just have my music + humming noise.  Can somebody tell me what's should be the solution?

Thanks.

 



you may want to check your headshell wires for loose connection.  Did you also try to move the TT onto another location?  There are times that power supplies from other electronic sources introduce noice in the phono chain.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: markmlists on Jan 28, 2006 at 01:06 AM
I should think some stores catering to DJ or professional audio needs like Audiophile at Makati Cinema Square carry them.  I recall seeing Shure and Audio-Technica banners there.

Also, Raon in Quiapo may be a good place to start looking. 


Thanks AV_Phile
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: juvinyl on Jan 31, 2006 at 09:15 AM
you may want to check your headshell wires for loose connection.  Did you also try to move the TT onto another location?  There are times that power supplies from other electronic sources introduce noice in the phono chain.

MiniCooper,

Even if the phono power supply is off and removed from the wall outlet, it still "hum" as long as the stereo RCA's are connected to my amp.  So it is not a problem of electrostatics, but i suspect more of the loose connection. 
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on Jan 31, 2006 at 09:23 AM
you're connectors could be grounded. try to get hold of a tester (ohm meter), you can easily trace where the problem is.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: juvinyl on Jan 31, 2006 at 12:27 PM
Grounding test is done, and seems the connectors are ok including the 3rd wire (ground wire).  then what must be the reason for the humming lalo na pag nakakabit yong ground wire?   ??? ::).  Hmmm... normally, this is what you get from cheap electronics. 8)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on Jan 31, 2006 at 12:40 PM
borrow from a friend another TT unit, kahit yung cheap linear trackers sa midi-compo and hook to your amp. kung meron pa ring hum, nasa amp's phono circuit ang problema, baka marumi tapos highly humid these past few days.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: markmlists on Jan 31, 2006 at 03:43 PM
Sir Sandawa/anyone,

I have a linear ttable na p-mount cartridge. Can I use any p-mount with it? Its a Sansui and its easier to get a p-mount shure cartridge (m92e) than to source an orig cartridge kasi.

Thanks!

Mark
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on Jan 31, 2006 at 04:43 PM
yes, all p-mounts have standard specs. if you're buying Shure m92, haggle low since you would not be using the adaptor. you only need the basic cartridge which should fit the assembly on your linear TT (saksak lang plus one small screw.) what's your linear TT, brand and model?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: markmlists on Jan 31, 2006 at 05:17 PM
Thanks for the info and the advice!

Sansui P-M330. Orig Cartridge part# =P313. Got it from my uncle and it needs work since the Eject button doesnt work, walang belt and I cant find the other pulley. Yung belt naman for the tracker I was able to replace with a vcd belt. Meron po bang recommended belt compatibility, for example, if 5cm ang inner pulley to pulley distance ang belt ay dapat 1 cm smaller lang or puedeng as long as it can stretch?


Thanks.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on Jan 31, 2006 at 06:47 PM
usually standard din ang pulley sizes at distances niyan. as long as the belt fits and the motor runs on 60 hertz (cycles per second), it would be okay if you check the 33 and 45 RPMs with a strobo. it would have been fine if it was direct drive linear trackers such as Technics SL-7 and up as well as Revox and Luxman types. mas heavier/stable ang takbo and quieter compared with linear tracker belt drives.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: markmlists on Jan 31, 2006 at 07:49 PM
Salamat sir.
Yup platter (?) itself  is direct drive though it has 2 belts 1 for the eject and 1 for the linear arm. unfortunately walang stobe, though tumutugtog pa rin naman, di palang ganun kaganda. Thanks sa info! :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on Jan 31, 2006 at 08:22 PM
sorry, tama nga pala may belt yung nag pu-pull ng cartridge assembly. kailangan lang niyan cartridge na bagong hasa ang stylus.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: stereophile on Feb 01, 2006 at 01:00 AM
Guys,

I purchased a Project Debut III when I was in the UK......we used it for a while when we were there and it was working fine I had it shipped to the Philippines just arrived yesterday when I tried it the speed of the plate was all wrong I tried switching the belt and using 45's and 33's but I was still getting chipmunk sounds from the turntable.....the voltage in the UK is 240 volts.....is the turntable busted or am I just doing something wrong? Or do I need to purchase something to make the thing usable here in the philippines?

Your help would be greatly appreciated Thanks ;D

Get in touch with Pican in WiredState/Pinoy Audio. He is with Audio Den and sells Project ttables. I believe they can get you the proper pulley for your ttable.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: rascal101 on Feb 07, 2006 at 09:26 AM
I have been reading this thread but could not follow the terms ... phonostage, cart etc. Also don't quite understand what is it with turntables. Is the sound significally different, listening experience is not quite explainable??? What is it like?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: JojoD818 on Feb 07, 2006 at 10:39 AM
phonostage - an equalized gainstage required to boost the fairly low output of TT cartridges to a suitable line level signal.

cart - short for cartridge, it's where your needle is mechanically attached. several types such as moving magnet, moving coil, etc exists. cart is a sort of a pickup device, it converts minute changes in the needle into voltage.

this is just to start the ball rolling, a lot of the guys here can help you better understand the technical aspects of turntables. you are probably in for a surprise.  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on Feb 07, 2006 at 12:10 PM
1. phono stage used to be known as "phono preamp."
2. cartridge in the '80s was actually called "pickup";
3. stylus was known as "needle;"
4. turntable, or record player, used to be called "phonograph"
5. vinyl is actually "phono record", with categories such as 33rpm long playing, 45 and 78;
6. hertz is actually "cps" or cycles per second;
7. stereo system was "component"  ;D he-he-he!

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: rascal101 on Feb 07, 2006 at 12:26 PM
Thanks for the inputs Sir Sandawa and JojoD818. 
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: stereophile on Feb 08, 2006 at 01:11 AM
I have been reading this thread but could not follow the terms ... phonostage, cart etc. Also don't quite understand what is it with turntables. Is the sound significally different, listening experience is not quite explainable??? What is it like?

The best way to understand/learn about analog is to actually listen to a set-up. Check out your friends who have analog set-up. Be forewarned...you may end up liking this 'old' technology. ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: rascal101 on Feb 08, 2006 at 09:16 AM
Had a chance to listen to XLR_silver set-up about two weeks agos but only for about 15mins or so. At this point of time medyo nakalimutan ko na how it sounds although I recall na parang totoo tumunog. Medyo turn-off nga lang ako ng konti dahil kailangan maingat talaga. Kailangan malinis iyung plaka then kailangan well calibrated iyung speed, maingat sa arm, malinis iyung karayum etc etc.

However, despite this gusto kong makinig uli ...  :)

Sir Stereophile,

BTW, do you know any device to make CD sound like a turntable? Just curious.  :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: stereophile on Feb 11, 2006 at 07:32 AM
Sir Stereophile,

BTW, do you know any device to make CD sound like a turntable? Just curious.  :)

rascal-  The closest you will get to analog using the digital format is to use the DCS Elgar DAC + DCS Verdi transport. It converts ordinary 16-bit 44Khz cds to DSD meaning SACD. It comes at a price: USD 39T! This is the only equipment w/c can convert regular cds to DSD. No other product can, hence its cost.

I have heard SACDs in a reference SACD player like the MF Trivista SACD player w/c costs 400T.  This was in a reference MF sysytem using MF KW pre-amp, MF KW-1000wpc monoblocks,  250T worth of XLO interconnect/spkr wires, B&W 800 Signature spkrs. It's close but still not the same. Add to that the limited titles. An ordinary 'redbook' cd will not soud like an sacd unless you use the prohibitive DCS gear. The owner himself of this MF sysytem has an MF M-1 ttable. When we compared the 2 formats, he concluded that analog was better. At least he has both formats.

But you can get the analog sound cheaply, by using a ttable at your price point. I myself use a Rotel 971 cd player, passing thru a Monarchy Audio anti-jitter DIP, then thru an MF A324 192khz upsampling DAC. Very nice sound compared to ordinary cd player, but left in the dust by my Technics ttable with Shure M-447 cart. You will say why not use tube output cd players with DAC. But after I heard a reference SACD player(the MF Trivista) with associated gear at 4.5M ::), and it still does not come close to analog. So I did not bother upgrading my digital front-end. I'm at that point where I'm done with gear upgrading and just look for vinyl w/c I like. I hardly use my digital gears, except to warm up my amps prior to listening to analog, or when I'm just tamad and want to listen to music with a remote.

I agree, going into analog has its rituals: cleaning the LPs, storing them properly, setting up the cartridge on the ttable. But the advantage of analog, is that you can TWEAK your front-end. If you dont like the sound, you can adjust/re-align your cartdrige. If that doesn't work, you can change the cartridge and yet use the same ttable. You can also change the phonostage if you like, not to mention the cables. You can't do that to a cd player. Its basically open tray-plop cd- then close n play. Besides that, there are a lot of material which never made it to digital.

Bottomline: It's the analog sound! 8)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: gob on Feb 12, 2006 at 11:41 PM
hi guys have some question with technics tt.  i just acquired a sl3300 from a friend of miine & i want to know if its possible to replace the interconnects connecting to the tt? mi mga tma na kasi mga cables.  is it better to use the original technics headshell or with audio technica?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Feb 12, 2006 at 11:44 PM
ping hyperaudio, he can help you with the interconnects, maybe use XLO...as for the headshell, pareho lang naman yung technics and audio technica, locally available at Audiophile Components...thanks!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: gob on Feb 13, 2006 at 09:32 PM
ok sir tnx for the advice ill try to drop by audiophile components
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: bayonic on Feb 13, 2006 at 10:37 PM
Guys,

I purchased a Project Debut III when I was in the UK......we used it for a while when we were there and it was working fine I had it shipped to the Philippines just arrived yesterday when I tried it the speed of the plate was all wrong I tried switching the belt and using 45's and 33's but I was still getting chipmunk sounds from the turntable.....the voltage in the UK is 240 volts.....is the turntable busted or am I just doing something wrong? Or do I need to purchase something to make the thing usable here in the philippines?

Your help would be greatly appreciated Thanks ;D

hi dracula ...

i am having the exact same problem you had with your Debut III .... may I know what you did to have the Turntable working at 60 Hz ?
thanks in advance
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: stereophile on Feb 13, 2006 at 11:36 PM
hi guys have some question with technics tt... is it better to use the original technics headshell or with audio technica?

gob-If you inspect the contacts between the original Technics headshell and the tonearm, you will notice that they are both GOLD-PLATED. If you check the contacts in the AT headshell, they are some kind of polished silver-like contact. What that metal is, i don't know.

Here is my point in all this: if you remember your Physics/Chemistry classes, when 2 dissimilar metals are in contact, there will be an electrical difference, meaning you created a battery. This equates, long-term into corrosion.

If you can get your hands on another original Technics headshell, then that is best. If you can't, as most of us do, then we have to make do in the meantime using the AT headshell. I suggest then cleaning/inspecting the contacts ever so-often for corrosion. If you do not plan to use the ttable for some time, I'd remove the headshell and store it separately. Just my 10 cents...
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: ivo on Apr 27, 2006 at 11:53 AM
mga sir, query lang.... i've already posted this same question on a separate thread.... i have a technics SL1200MKII and i think my headshell is damaged for some reason... where can i buy a headshell for my technics tt? i already inquired with audiophile but they dont have the audio technica headshells on stock anymore, i was also looking for a shure M447H, its an M447 cartridge pre-mounted on a technics headshell... any ideas where i can probably buy a headshell or better yet an M447H? its available on ebay but most of the sellers dont ship to ph, and some that do will charge around $80 via fedex.

thanks in advance!

ivo
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on Apr 27, 2006 at 12:56 PM
SL-1200 TTs use standard bayonet-type headshells. Audio Technica and Technics are two different companies, AT is a cartridge and audio accessories firm, Technics is a brand under Matsus**ta (also National, Panasonic, Ramsa, etc.) the pre-mounted cartridge on SL-1200 is EPC-U1200 made by Matsucrapa/Panasonic. it has a conical-type stylus made especially for DJ scratching. M44-7 is a professional model cart released by Shure (of USA) also for DJ use. a new M44-7 original cart (old stock) used to sell from P900 to P1.5K here in Davao. Taiwan-made stylus for M44-7 still available from P300 to P350 in Raon (P90 to P250 here in Davao.)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: rnb_zounds on May 16, 2006 at 07:54 PM
Sirs,

Anyone with the exact location ng nag titinda ng stylus sa Raon? Been there last year, kaya lang when you start asking, nobody wants to point you there. And many just shrug and say wala na yan. There seems to be just one or two that everyone else goes to. Kasi once I wrote down on a piece of paper the model, and then there was a runner. Where he went I dunno, pero came back said na 650 pesos (for a sony TT). I'm sure if I could get to the right shop it would be cheaper. Naasar nga ako minsan I asked for a shure stylus for my Technics 1200 eh 750 daw ??? ??? Sinabihan ko nalang na mas mura pa sa mall.  :( >:(

Thanks.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on May 17, 2006 at 09:08 AM
before i discovered a major source of styli here in Davao last year, i used to buy there in Raon, 3 or 4 shops from the corner (Evangelista) going to Avenida. i don't remember the name of the shop, but it's dirty white building three or 4 floors high. they used to supply radio stations phono accessories. the price for Taiwan N44-7 back then ranges from P300 to P350.

if you know anyone here in Davao, or you are visiting this place in the future, the source is Lancer Electronics (sorry, they have no phone number) on San Pedro St. between cor. Ilustre and T. Claudio. Taiwan-made "Magnetic" brand M44-7 replacements are quoted P250 each. that shop has spares for most cartridge models, including hard-to-find styli (US-made by Walco) for Pickering, Stanton, Shure V15 series, etc. they also have styli replacements produced by Nagaoka Japan for Audio Technica models.

please don't ask me to buy for you since i'm very busy.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on May 17, 2006 at 09:39 AM
sir nani, are the spare styli for shure v15 carts still available at lancer electronics??
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on May 17, 2006 at 11:02 AM
i already bought the last two units V15 Type IV styli. as far as i know, the only Shure V15 series available there now are the Type III and Type II, which have slimmer casings. i also bought three each for these since i have a Type III cart on my Thorens TD-320 and the Type II fits the bodies of my M-series carts. since you're based in Davao now, check them out and haggle.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on May 17, 2006 at 01:03 PM
thanks, sir! :D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: rnb_zounds on May 17, 2006 at 08:35 PM
Thanks sir!  ;D Will scout for that place you mentioned.  :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: BongerDude on May 17, 2006 at 08:47 PM
Bros, my dad has a huge collection of LP's.  Sa radio kasi sya dati nagwork.  Ang prob lang, wala na syang turntable ngayon.  How much po kaya aabutin para mapakinggan nya ulit mga LP's nya?  Yung ordinary lang po.  Sorry clueless ako dito eh walang alam.  Pang father's day gift ko sana sa kanya... (sana wag masyado mahal).  Thanks in advance mga gurus
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on May 18, 2006 at 08:16 AM
i'm a certified "barat" and i go for vintage equipment that perform better than average gear. an entry- to middle-level phono in the used market there in Manila could range from P1.5K to P2.5K. looks could be sacrificed but not performance. basic considerations are stable spin (thru built-in strobo) and negligible rumble (very quiet even if you place your ear close to the platter, or to the woofer if amplified). remember, a turntable itself should never produce a sound. that's the function of the cartridge and stylus. if the unit does not have a good condition cartridge/stylus assembly, a set from the used market could be bought at a range of P1.5K to P2.5K. 
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: gob on May 22, 2006 at 10:25 PM
gob-If you inspect the contacts between the original Technics headshell and the tonearm, you will notice that they are both GOLD-PLATED. If you check the contacts in the AT headshell, they are some kind of polished silver-like contact. What that metal is, i don't know.

Here is my point in all this: if you remember your Physics/Chemistry classes, when 2 dissimilar metals are in contact, there will be an electrical difference, meaning you created a battery. This equates, long-term into corrosion.

If you can get your hands on another original Technics headshell, then that is best. If you can't, as most of us do, then we have to make do in the meantime using the AT headshell. I suggest then cleaning/inspecting the contacts ever so-often for corrosion. If you do not plan to use the ttable for some time, I'd remove the headshell and store it separately. Just my 10 cents...

right now nga sir hirap narin maghanap ng AT headshell sa audiophile store, out of stock & no news kung magkakaron. meron sila vestax pre pricy.  medyo luma narin yun headshell na gamit ko & i dont know kung original technics basta mi noticeable made in japan.  made in japan din po ba mga AT?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: macmac09 on May 29, 2006 at 08:32 AM
hi, i am interested in using a tt for my setup kaya lang wala ako mga records kasi bata pa ako when i last saw our lp's. Meron pa ba mabibilhan ng mga records na lp ngayn. when was the lp format discontinued para alam ko kng me alam pa ko music from that era. tnx.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Chito C. on May 29, 2006 at 09:20 AM
Try makati cinema square sa basement.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: gob on May 31, 2006 at 11:45 PM
hi, i am interested in using a tt for my setup kaya lang wala ako mga records kasi bata pa ako when i last saw our lp's. Meron pa ba mabibilhan ng mga records na lp ngayn. when was the lp format discontinued para alam ko kng me alam pa ko music from that era. tnx.

you could also try sa marketplace marami nagbebenta ng lp's dun.  actually di naman totally discontinued coz some new titles are still available in lp.  di lang nga available sa pinas.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: macmac09 on Jun 19, 2006 at 10:39 AM
ask ko lang po, how much would a good turntable cost a beginner like me? where could u i find one? are the nad or denon turntables good enough or madami pa mas mura na ok? sori, la talaga ako alam sa tt e.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: rascal101 on Jun 19, 2006 at 10:42 AM
Sir, may Elac Miracord 50H TT ako. Kung interesado ka PM mo ako.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: halvert on Jul 07, 2006 at 03:45 PM
same question as macmac09, how much should i spend for an entry level tt? and where should i buy one? i know nothing about  TTs so i would really like to buy one new so that it would come with a warranty. thanks!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Jul 07, 2006 at 03:59 PM
hi!

there's one posted at the marketplace, project debut 3 with grado cart...i believe the owner may be willing to let it go for P13.5k, thanks!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Jagner on Jul 07, 2006 at 04:09 PM
same question as macmac09, how much should i spend for an entry level tt? and where should i buy one? i know nothing about  TTs so i would really like to buy one new so that it would come with a warranty. thanks!

You'll spend about 20K for a decent entry level TT (Pro-Ject Debut III or Goldring GR1)

Just my opinion: If you're not yet sure if you really want a turntable but want to listen to LPs as a start, might as well buy an old refurbished turntable.  Prices ranging  from 3K to 8K.  There are a lot of these TTs for sale at the marketplace, or at the shops at the basement of MCS, or at Hyperaudio trading.  Sayang lang if you invest about 20K or so for an entry level TT realizing only at the end na di mo pala trip yung tugtog or, that if you really liked the sound of LPs, for a little more cash, you would have bought yourself a decent mid-level TT  ;)

Cheers
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: knefut on Jul 13, 2006 at 11:42 AM
sir, where can i buy a budget friendly cartridge?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: bono on Jul 13, 2006 at 12:35 PM
sir, watson electronic store located at sta. cruz manila.

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Jul 13, 2006 at 12:52 PM
agree with jon agner...i would encourage you to invest in software (LPs) for now then later on invest in a good turntable...for an entry-level, maybe P20k would be fine...but if you're into more serious stuff, then around P50k...thanks!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: knefut on Jul 13, 2006 at 03:57 PM
sir, watson electronic store located at sta. cruz manila.



thanks for the quick reply sir.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Speaker Doctor on Aug 11, 2006 at 03:28 PM
sirs,

tanong ko lang kung saan pwedeng makabili ng rubber mat for Pioneer TT (substitute may do) and estimate price please?  Meron kasi sa bahay na Pioneer PL-153 TT na balak kong buhayin.

Thanks,

Benedict
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Aug 11, 2006 at 03:31 PM
mojo, i'll PM you if my folks in manila can still find the one i own before...can give it to you free of charge...thanks!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Speaker Doctor on Aug 15, 2006 at 01:19 PM
mojo, i'll PM you if my folks in manila can still find the one i own before...can give it to you free of charge...thanks!

Sir Superman,

Thanks and sana mahanap nila para mapakinabangan yung turntable sa bahay.  I'll be waiting for your pm.

Benedict
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: CO2 on Aug 17, 2006 at 11:41 AM
Hi bros. any advise please of some possible remedy of my tt's tracking problem.  I observed that lately, it always jump especially on the the last LP tracks.  I tried replacing a new stylus (n92e) but still the problem recur.   TIA

TT - Sansui FR-D35 automatic direct drive
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: devo on Aug 17, 2006 at 01:36 PM
sirs,

tanong ko lang kung saan pwedeng makabili ng rubber mat for Pioneer TT (substitute may do) and estimate price please?  Meron kasi sa bahay na Pioneer PL-153 TT na balak kong buhayin.

Thanks,

Benedict
Hello Mojo, you can give this a try

http://wiredstate.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11328 (nasa Analog section ng WS entitled "Tweaking with Astonishing Results").

Saw this for only P99 at ACE yesterday, yung mas malaki is P120.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Aug 17, 2006 at 01:40 PM
pare, personally i do not recommend this...it leaves some marks on your LP...which di na maalis...and it is also sometimes too thick for your requirement...just my 2-cents...thanks!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: devo on Aug 17, 2006 at 02:12 PM
actually, just got curious with this after reading the WS thread the reason I looked for it at ACE (but did not buy), but could be a temporary solution while sourcing out as in the case of Mojo, wag mo lang daw iwan LP mo in contact for 3 hours.
In my case, I am using a rubber mat from an old Sansui TT on my Project TT.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Aug 17, 2006 at 02:16 PM
actually, just got curious with this after reading the WS thread the reason I looked for it at ACE (but did not buy), but could be a temporary solution while sourcing out as in the case of Mojo, wag mo lang daw iwan LP mo in contact for 3 hours.
In my case, I am using a rubber mat from an old Sansui TT on my Project TT.

mel, di ba masyadong makapal yang rubber mat for the pro-ject tt?? felt mat ang gamit di ba?? unless you'll adjust vta, etc...thanks!!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: devo on Aug 17, 2006 at 02:39 PM
mel, di ba masyadong makapal yang rubber mat for the pro-ject tt?? felt mat ang gamit di ba?? unless you'll adjust vta, etc...thanks!!
tama Jen, buti na lang Project TT's VTA is adjustable, may set screw to hold arm in place not like the GR's which need shims as spacers. Am not using the felt mat anymore.... thanks
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: alaala on Aug 27, 2006 at 12:04 AM
just started acquiring LPs...problema wala akong turntable. =(
tip naman kung san makakaiskor ng matinong unit na hindi ako mamumulubi.  saw one sa cubao for P1,800 pero loose thread na ung needle. decided against buying it since hindi ko rin maaayos pag natuluyan.

salamat sa magaabala! =)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on Aug 27, 2006 at 09:04 AM
if the turntable unit's spin is stable and you don't hear any rumbling sound, puwede na yan. kung stylus lang ang kailangan mo, contact members on this forum who could lead you to sources in Raon -- less than P300 for popular cartridge models. Kung sira ang pick-up, i have over a dozen available and maybe i could spare you one. i'm not a trader but i sometimes share some of my gear to guys who want to hear true hifi (not necessarily new production and expensive gear) but don't have the budget for expensive gear. last year, i sold a Technics turntable to a member here for P1K. who knows, i could give an Audio Technica AT-10 cart with original AT-10 stylus and 2 original spare AT11 at only P1K. if you'd check online, a non-original AT-11 stylus sells for roughly $20 each. this is not an offer though, but i do get crazy sometimes.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: alaala on Aug 27, 2006 at 09:42 AM
ok na nga sana un kaso gusto ko sana wala na kong ibang kailangang gawin other than isalang ung album since hindi ako marunong magayos. regarding the noise from the TT itself, un kaya kong icheck (sana lng di ako mabingi sa jukebox hits ngayon dito sa bahay). but the other things, im completely clueless.

this is basically hindi lng para sa kin. actually for my parents talaga. ang daming murang 2nd hand LPs ngayon, yung mga alam kong trip nilang pakinggan. they can't use cd players or my pc, so i thought a turntable is simple enough para maenjoy nila ang music na alam nila even if im out of the house.

offer mo na dre. =)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on Aug 27, 2006 at 10:02 AM
Getting good music from a turntable requires some patience and technical familiarity with this vintage medium. It could also be very expensive, especially cost of vinyls sold in the market nowadays. Good analog sound requires a lot of cash, unless you're an oldtimer in this game.

If you just want your parents to hear their types of music, there are many file-sharing and low-cost music sites on the web today where you can get old songs that aren't available at local music stores. Almost a decade ago, I downloaded free from Napster and Audio Galaxy (both RIP) a lot of songs from Mantovani, Enoch Light and the Light Brigade, Glenn Miller, etc. for my parents. All you have to do is ask your parents the songs they want and you can get them online, either free or for a marginal cost.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: alaala on Aug 27, 2006 at 10:16 AM
yeah...i actually have lots of mp3 (oooopss..bad word?) in my pc and in discs. problem is, they don't know how to operate a computer or cd player or the likes.  i was thinking, with a turntable, they can just plug it, put on the album, and enjoy. ganun lang. the simpler, the better.

wala sa mga barkada ko ang mahilig sa music other than those stuff you hear on the radio. they love the champions    :o  so wala magtuturo s kin o mapagtatanungan man lang other than online.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: stereophile on Aug 27, 2006 at 09:18 PM
Hi bros. any advise please of some possible remedy of my tt's tracking problem.  I observed that lately, it always jump especially on the the last LP tracks.  I tried replacing a new stylus (n92e) but still the problem recur.   TIA

TT - Sansui FR-D35 automatic direct drive

Many factors can cause ur problem. Trackng force, anti-skate, overhang of stylus on headshell, etc.

I think you have to re-set the cart on your ttable. Chances are, one or more of the above parameters is off.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Oct 06, 2006 at 11:14 AM
Sir Superman,

Thanks and sana mahanap nila para mapakinabangan yung turntable sa bahay.  I'll be waiting for your pm.

Benedict

ben, i found it...sent you a PM...thanks! :D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: jay2 on Oct 11, 2006 at 04:50 PM
Hi I was i shang this weekend nakita ko turntable denon dp 29f or pd29f, anyway maganda po ba ito for a newbie sa vinyl or magsecondhand or surplus ako. May mga lp's pa ako d2 pero hindi ko na napatugtog, dami ko nababasa na masmaganda ang tunog kaysa sa cd curious lang me. Problema ko wala ako alam sa tt and how to repair or modify or to look if its good kung surplus  bilhin ko.

tia
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: macmac09 on Oct 12, 2006 at 10:12 PM
first time ko po gamit tt. talaga po bang madaming parang pop and crackling sound sa lp? or dahil madami lang gasgas mga lp ko?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: stereophile on Oct 17, 2006 at 06:22 AM
Most likely its a worn or dirty Lp.

It could also be a worn stylus.

Sometimes. setting up of the ttable: Cart overhang, tracking force too low, wrong anti-skate, tonearm bearing worn, etc. can contribute. Ask help from a friend who is knee-deep into analog ;D to check your set-up.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: macmac09 on Oct 18, 2006 at 04:10 PM
yn nga problem, don't really have anyone who is knowledgable with tt. anyone who is in san pedro laguna? or maybe a shop near me or along alabang.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: stereophile on Oct 19, 2006 at 12:52 AM
San Pedro? iceman90 lives in your area. He is a member of pinoydvd. Send him a pm.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: iceman90a on Oct 19, 2006 at 09:29 AM
that's me! ;D

yo macmac09 san ka sa San Pedro?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: stereophile on Oct 19, 2006 at 01:16 PM
that's me! ;D

yo macmac09 san ka sa San Pedro?

mac- iceman90a can easily help you, check your set-up and re-set your turntable. I have full confidence in him and his skills. You will be a happier turntablist after he makes a house call.  ;D Once you learn the skills from him, time to teach another... ;D

Actually, there are many of you guys in San Pedro who are into analog. After the fix, it's time to join their sessions! ;D

Ice/Vince- Bro, ano ang kapalit ng Antal? ;)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: s2kov on Oct 19, 2006 at 02:34 PM
me too! ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Oct 19, 2006 at 02:47 PM
mga taga-san pedro at karatig-pook...

iceman, s2kov, dogears, jvm, edboy... :D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: iceman90a on Oct 20, 2006 at 09:51 AM

mac- iceman90a can easily help you, check your set-up and re-set your turntable. I have full confidence in him and his skills. You will be a happier turntablist after he makes a house call.  ;D Once you learn the skills from him, time to teach another... ;D

uh-oh Mac might expect too much :(

Ice/Vince- Bro, ano ang kapalit ng Antal? ;)

wala pa Sir - ganda sana ng ML mo kaso di uubra sa kuwarto, at amp ko :(

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: macmac09 on Oct 20, 2006 at 11:29 AM
hanap  muna ko gud quality lps para matry ko kng me improvement. pagdi patulong ako. tnx in advance
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: stereophile on Oct 20, 2006 at 12:31 PM
hanap  muna ko gud quality lps para matry ko kng me improvement. pagdi patulong ako. tnx in advance

Actually, I would suggest you have your new found buddies check out your rig BEFORE you put the nice records. The reason being that an improperly set cart or a damaged one can damage a nice clean LP. That will be a sad and painful waste. There is no harm in having it checked before you spend. I suggest this to prevent a heartache. :(
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: macmac09 on Oct 21, 2006 at 08:24 AM
a ganun po ba. tnx. will do po.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: stereophile on Oct 21, 2006 at 07:49 PM
Merely moving a ttable from one location in the room to another changes the 'settings'. What more if the table is sold, changes hands, tansported, sold again(to you), you bring it home, you put it on your rack..so many things can happen along the way...Eventhough it was set properly, those settings are gone.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: indie boi on Oct 31, 2006 at 03:01 PM
A friend of mine has a Pioneer PL-J5000-W. The voltage of the unit is 110V. According to him, a friend of his accidentally plugged it into a 220 v wall socket. Can this still be repaired? And is it possible that plugging it into a 220v outlet could have damaged other parts of the turntable?

Also, is the said turntable a good model?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: stereophile on Nov 01, 2006 at 10:04 AM
A friend of mine has a Pioneer PL-J5000-W. The voltage of the unit is 110V. According to him, a friend of his accidentally plugged it into a 220 v wall socket. Can this still be repaired? And is it possible that plugging it into a 220v outlet could have damaged other parts of the turntable?

Also, is the said turntable a good model?

Looks like a new/recent automatic entry level ttable from Pioneer:(http://www3.pioneer.co.jp/product/img_display.php?type=0&rid=00000612)

Can't read Japanese, but it looks like it uses a P-mount cart.

You will have to have it checked to see if more parts are damaged. Try Pioneer service. They maybe able to order parts. If the cost is too much, you might be better off getting a pre-owned ttable.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: pack on Nov 13, 2006 at 06:55 PM
Hi, Indie Boi.  Would you happen to know where your friend was able to buy the Pioneer turntable?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: markmlists on Apr 03, 2007 at 08:46 PM
Someone has posted the website for the faq for turntables but I cant find it. I think it was sir Stereophile who posted it before. Can anyone remember the site? Thanks
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Jagner on May 09, 2007 at 12:46 PM
Someone has posted the website for the faq for turntables but I cant find it. I think it was sir Stereophile who posted it before. Can anyone remember the site? Thanks

check out  www.vinylengine.com  :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: gearhead on Jun 03, 2007 at 02:57 PM
any feedback po on this turntable? how much is the going rate for it locally?
i see it advertised online for as low as $99.00. is it any good? all i want is
a brand new, reasonably price TT for our limited record collection - mostly
japan issued LP's of 60-70's era.

(http://ai.pricegrabber.com/product_images/2611000-2611999/2611323_640.jpg)
Title: Turntable newbie... help!!!!
Post by: ledrahc on Jun 14, 2007 at 02:36 PM
Hi guys, i need your help. Plan ko kasi mag try ng turntable setup, for the following reasons
    1. Gusto ko try kung masarap ba talagang magpahinga habang nakikinig ng kanta coming from an analog source
    2. Trip ko lang na parang bumalik ako sa era ng tatay ko, nung ako pa yung taga-salang nya ng plaka sa napakalaking Akai component na gamit nya dati...Hehe, bigla ko lang naalala ng ipakita sa akin ng Nanay ko ang mga luma naming plaka na nakatago, bigla ako na-curious

Kaso ang problema, newbie ako dito, as in wala talago akong alam  :o...
Kaya sana masagot nyo ako sa mga tanong kong ito

1. For an entry level TT, mga magkano yung price nya? I've seen some 2nd hand TT sa Makati Cinema square worth around 5k - 6k? Mas ok ba yun? Yung brand new na entry level, mga magkano?

2. Kung brand new bibilhin ko, ano tatak yung maganda? which store kaya meron?

3. Kelangan ko ba bumili ng amplifier? O pwede ko bang gamitin na lang yung HK335 na receiver ko? Kung bibili ako, ok na ba yung mga surplus Amps?

4. After kong makabili ng TT, ano ano yung dapat kong gawin upon installation, may calibration pa ba ako dapat gawin?

5. Ano ano maintenance ng TT?

madami pa akong tanong, pero eto na lang muna.. saka na lang pag nakabili na ako ng TT... sana matulungan nyo ako...  ;D ;D

salamat!!!
Title: Re: Turntable newbie... help!!!!
Post by: Jagner on Jun 14, 2007 at 02:57 PM
1.  Maraming klaseng entry level TT, yung mga "new production" at yung surplus.  Yung 5-6K price range, eh depende sa kundisyon ng turntable, brand (kadalasan vintage), at kung gaano ka kumplikado o ka-simple yung pag-kakagawa.  Kung mga bagong gawang Entry Level TT,  gagastos ka ng mahigit sa P 16K kung iyun ay bibilhin mo nga bago; at aabot nga hanggang 12K para sa mga second hand.  Ang mga bagong labas na mga entry level TT, sa aking pagkaka-alam ay ang  Pro-ject Debut III, Goldring 1.0 at ang Rega P1.  Sa mga vintage TT, ang pinakakilala ay ang Technics.

2.  Kung may ginagamit ka nang amplifier,  di mo na kailangang mag-palit pa.  Ang kailangan lang ay dapat mayroong "phono input" ang iyong amplifier.  Kung wala itong phono input,  puedeng bilhin mo nalang ay ang phonostage pre-amplifier.

3.  Ang calibration as depende sa klase gagamitin mong karayom.   Kung wala kang masyadong alam, maaari kang tulungan nga ibang miyembro ng PinoyDVD sa tamang pagsasa-ayos ng setting ng turntable mo.   

4.  Anu-ano ang maintenance ng TT?  Depende yan sa TT na gagamitin mo.

Sana'y makatulong ito sa iyo.  :)

Title: Re: Turntable newbie... help!!!!
Post by: audiojunkie on Jun 14, 2007 at 09:27 PM
Do your homework before you buy... ;D  ;D to avoid buyer's remorse... ???  ???
Title: Re: Turntable newbie... help!!!!
Post by: devo on Jun 15, 2007 at 11:15 AM
take time to read this, maybe can answer even your future questions... goodluck ;)


http://wiredstate.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=33&sid=5fb98d7b9483586483fa7e8d645811b7

http://www.vinylengine.com/phpBB2/index.php


Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: reynold on Aug 02, 2007 at 07:23 PM
if the turntable unit's spin is stable and you don't hear any rumbling sound, puwede na yan. kung stylus lang ang kailangan mo, contact members on this forum who could lead you to sources in Raon -- less than P300 for popular cartridge models. Kung sira ang pick-up, i have over a dozen available and maybe i could spare you one. i'm not a trader but i sometimes share some of my gear to guys who want to hear true hifi (not necessarily new production and expensive gear) but don't have the budget for expensive gear. last year, i sold a Technics turntable to a member here for P1K. who knows, i could give an Audio Technica AT-10 cart with original AT-10 stylus and 2 original spare AT11 at only P1K. if you'd check online, a non-original AT-11 stylus sells for roughly $20 each. this is not an offer though, but i do get crazy sometimes.

Sir Sandawa,
Are you feeling crazy today? hehe baka pwede mo ako bigyan ng turntable at a reasonable (cheap) price ;)

Anyway, medyo OT... Ano ba pwedeng panglinis ng mga vinyls, i have some kasi na may mga mantsa na medyo mahirap tanggalin pag pinupunasan ko lang ng tuyong basahan e... pwede bang basang basahan ang gamitin? or Washable ba ang mga vinyls??? ??? :)

Thanks and God Bless ;)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: onedown on Aug 03, 2007 at 08:45 AM
reynold,

there are commercial solutions available for cleaning vinyls. as an alternative, you can also use joy liquid diluted in distilled water.

if you want, you can also have the vinyls cleaned at the record shop beside rene rivo's shop. they have a vacuum for lps.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: stereophile on Aug 03, 2007 at 09:14 AM
Anyway, medyo OT... Ano ba pwedeng panglinis ng mga vinyls, i have some kasi na may mga mantsa na medyo mahirap tanggalin pag pinupunasan ko lang ng tuyong basahan  e... pwede bang basang basahan ang gamitin? or Washable ba ang mga vinyls??? ??? :)

Thanks and God Bless ;)

Looks like a case of mildew. Medyo mahirap tanggalin yan. I have some LPs like that. Despite many cycles of cleaning, it remains. As long as it doesn't affect playback, it's fine. If it does, time to look for another copy...(http://www.thesmilies.com/smilies/sad0049.gif) (http://www.thesmilies.com)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: reynold on Aug 03, 2007 at 02:44 PM
Thanks sir onedown ;)
Talaga, pwede hugasan ng joy? :o cge, will try pag-uwi ko ;)
Btw, who is rene rivo and where's the location po? Thanks ;)

Sir stereophile,
Yung iba kasi pag pinatugtog, tumatalon na yung stylus, sayang medyo ok pa man din yung album :(
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: onedown on Aug 03, 2007 at 04:03 PM
reynold,

first, no guarantees that the records will come out very clean. as stereophile pointed out, mildew is hard to remove. but if you want to try, use a very minute amount of joy, just enough to produce bubbles. best if you use distilled water. you can use your finger to gently rub the surface of the vinyl, following the direction of the grooves.

rene rivo used to post actively here. he restores vintage audio gear and sells equipment as well. his shop is along calatagan street, makati near cash and carry.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: onedown on Aug 03, 2007 at 04:57 PM
reynold,

additional reminder: be careful not to get the label wet. the label might either peel off or fade.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: reynold on Aug 03, 2007 at 05:17 PM
Thanks sir onedown, very much appreciated talaga ang tulong mo, hope you can give me na lang yung contact no. ni rene rivo or the exact address... Thanks  ;)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: kefq on Aug 03, 2007 at 05:26 PM
Sir Sandawa,
Are you feeling crazy today? hehe baka pwede mo ako bigyan ng turntable at a reasonable (cheap) price ;)

Anyway, medyo OT... Ano ba pwedeng panglinis ng mga vinyls, i have some kasi na may mga mantsa na medyo mahirap tanggalin pag pinupunasan ko lang ng tuyong basahan e... pwede bang basang basahan ang gamitin? or Washable ba ang mga vinyls??? ??? :)

Thanks and God Bless ;)

Bro Joy ultra lang and sponge, then rinse. Use a non scratch micro fibre towel pag pupunasan mo na
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: reynold on Aug 03, 2007 at 05:34 PM
Bro Joy ultra lang and sponge, then rinse. Use a non scratch micro fibre towel pag pupunasan mo na

Thanks bro, hehe takot kasi ako basain baka mabura yung laman, hahaha ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Aug 03, 2007 at 06:35 PM
Bro Joy ultra lang and sponge, then rinse. Use a non scratch micro fibre towel pag pupunasan mo na

yung tela ng "Sando" shirt na white, OK pamunas ng LPs yun...
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: reynold on Aug 03, 2007 at 06:55 PM
yung tela ng "Sando" shirt na white, OK pamunas ng LPs yun...

Actually, yun nga ang ginagamit ko ngayon e, hehe sinira ko yung isang lumang sando ko :D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: gearhead on Aug 04, 2007 at 12:25 AM
or you can just air dry it. be careful though when you do the air drying outdoors. make sure the sun doesn't shine directly on the vinyls or you get a warped record.  also make sure you're not near a dusty road or surroundings.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: audiojunkie on Aug 04, 2007 at 04:51 AM
Actually, yun nga ang ginagamit ko ngayon e, hehe sinira ko yung isang lumang sando ko :D

HeHe... Dapat bagong sando ang gamitin para sure clean..... ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: onedown on Aug 04, 2007 at 08:15 AM
reynold,

i don't know the street number of rene's shop. but it is easy to find. it is at the corner of filmore and calatagan streets. here's the directions.

if you are at buendia going to taft, make a right turn at filmore street. that's the first steet after crossing south superhighway. the second street is calatagan. landmark is reyes hair cutters.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: av_phile1 on Aug 04, 2007 at 10:21 AM
After cleaning your LP successfully, NEVER EVER return it to the same sleeve it came from.  Get a new one.  Unless you can clean the sleeve as well.  That may be difficult with paper sleeves. 

Personally, I never had mildew in my LPs when I had them.   But I read in an audio magz that you better not waste time cleaning an LP with mildew.  Because mildew eats vinyl. Hence, the groove information will never be the same even if you've successfully cleaned it.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: stereophile on Aug 05, 2007 at 09:29 PM
Sir stereophile,
Yung iba kasi pag pinatugtog, tumatalon na yung stylus, sayang medyo ok pa man din yung album :(

That means there's gunk/detritus in the grooves from mold or breakdown of the paper sleeves. Sometimes, this can be minimized by many washings and running the grooves thru with a spare, good condition, cheap stylus to dig out the gunk. Follow this with a repeat cleaning.

If you're interested, here's how vinyl is cleaned at the US Library of Congress:http://www.loc.gov/preserv/care/record.html (http://www.loc.gov/preserv/care/record.html)

Additional sites:http://www.vinylengine.com/recordcare.shtml (http://www.vinylengine.com/recordcare.shtml) & http://www.gcaudio.com/resources/howtos/recordcleaning.html (http://www.gcaudio.com/resources/howtos/recordcleaning.html)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: reynold on Aug 06, 2007 at 01:52 PM
Thanks guys for all of your help, really appreciated po lahat ;)

Sir audiojunkie, bumili uli ako kahapon ng 5 sando, hehehe ;)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: onedown on Aug 06, 2007 at 02:41 PM
reynold,

if you don't wanna go through the hassle of cleaning your vinyls, you can always donate them.





just kidding.

enjoy listening to your vinyls. :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: reynold on Aug 06, 2007 at 03:34 PM
reynold,

if you don't wanna go through the hassle of cleaning your vinyls, you can always donate them.





just kidding.

enjoy listening to your vinyls. :)

hehe, siguro pag nagsawa ako :D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: docsialu on Aug 10, 2007 at 09:43 PM
hi guys, just got a 2nd hand technics sl 1600, saan ba tindahan dito sa manila nakakabili ng mga plaka, tnx
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: av_phile1 on Aug 11, 2007 at 07:22 AM
Montage at Greenbelt (brand new) and a shop or two at the basement of Makati Cinema Square (used).
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: onedown on Aug 11, 2007 at 08:41 AM
montage has ceased operations. unless they reopened recently.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: av_phile1 on Aug 11, 2007 at 11:46 AM
Oh my, have they?  It's been quite a while since I've been there last.  Sorry about that. How about its sister company Fully Booked? I haven't been to Power Plant Mall for maybe close to a year. 
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Aug 11, 2007 at 11:54 AM
Fully Booked at rockwell is still opem...i believe all the LPs have been transferred there, alex...thanks!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: docsialu on Aug 11, 2007 at 01:35 PM
how about other fully booked branches? meron din ba vinyls?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: devo on Aug 13, 2007 at 09:43 AM
hi guys, just got a 2nd hand technics sl 1600, saan ba tindahan dito sa manila nakakabili ng mga plaka, tnx

you can try WIREDSTATE.COM

http://wiredstate.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=35&sid=1ae8651fcd8957b0d990ea2e43915918

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: reynold on Aug 13, 2007 at 10:11 AM
if you want cheap and second hand vinyls, try expo at the back of rustans cubao, 2 stores yata yun, been there last week bro ;)

Medyo dusty lang yung iba but there are titles na ok pa rin, they are selling those at 20, 25, 50 to 100 pesos. Goodluck and happy hunting ;)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: docsialu on Aug 15, 2007 at 09:24 AM
Just wanna know if you guys follow some routine before playing your lps? Is there any peculiar routine? Or do you just put the lp in the turntable and spin it? tnx
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: docsialu on Aug 15, 2007 at 09:44 AM
Just a follow up, how do you clean the stylus? Are there any home remedies for this? or do you have to buy some special cleaning fluids for this
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: onedown on Aug 15, 2007 at 10:38 AM
there are brushes and solutions designed for cleaning the stylus. alternately, you can also use zero dust, a gel-like blob that can take some grime from the stylus.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: devo on Aug 16, 2007 at 09:46 AM
Just wanna know if you guys follow some routine before playing your lps? Is there any peculiar routine? Or do you just put the lp in the turntable and spin it? tnx
Hi Doc,

My routine:

1. I first clean the stylus using the "magic eraser" prior every listening session

http://wiredstate.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12840

    Or you can brush it very lightly with those being used by ladies sa pag make up.

2. With regards to LPs

     2.1 I clean them (2nd Hand) upon purchase using DIY solution (20% alcohol, 80% purified/distilled water, few drops of Joy). This also depends on the seller, may seller na whose LPs I don't clean anymore since malinis na. Change also those inner sleeves na marumi na.
     2.2 I clean them using an antistatic brush prior play, do not use those pranelas being sold on streets for cars, daming static fibers after rubbing on vinyls. Better to use those old "sandos".
     2.3 Hold the LPs on the sides to prevent fingerprint smudges.

I suggest you browse this WS thread ... very informative.

http://wiredstate.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=33&topicdays=0&start=20

Very helpful people on newbies like us.

Hope I was able to help. Enjoy the analog music!

DEVO
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: docsialu on Aug 18, 2007 at 12:56 PM
hi guys, nag experiment ako kagabi, i hooked up my turntable to my old cd tube buffer na pinagawa ko noon kay jojo, and to my surprise mas tumaba ung tunog, hehe, kaso lang may konting hum, pede rin pala un sa turntable, hindi lang pang cd,  ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: audiojunkie on Aug 18, 2007 at 01:02 PM
hi guys, nag experiment ako kagabi, i hooked up my turntable to my old cd tube buffer na pinagawa ko noon kay jojo, and to my surprise mas tumaba ung tunog, hehe, kaso lang may konting hum, pede rin pala un sa turntable, hindi lang pang cd,  ;D

You are right... it acts as signal enhancer and noise filter like I did from Phono stage I connected to Pioneer EX9000 Dynamic Range Enhancer before the preamp, the result is more cleaner and livelier sound....  8)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: docsialu on Aug 27, 2007 at 05:08 PM
hi guys, how do you mount your cartridges? kelangan ba talaga ng protractor? di ba pwedeng isalpak na lang bastat pantay naman ang pagkakakabit? ;)

btw, what cartridges do you use? ano sa experience nyo ang magandang tumunog? ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: audiojunkie on Aug 27, 2007 at 06:02 PM
hi guys, how do you mount your cartridges? kelangan ba talaga ng protractor? di ba pwedeng isalpak na lang bastat pantay naman ang pagkakakabit? ;)

btw, what cartridges do you use? ano sa experience nyo ang magandang tumunog? ;D

Yes, you must have all these devices to mount and allign the catridge. there are lots of reference in vinyl assylum amd other sites. Good Luck!...  :o

Technics is my cart used in my Technics TT and connected to Denon, it was OK that time. Now, i'm using ortofon vms3e on SME arm mounted on Audio linear TT and am very happy with the result. Have plan to try other names like Audio Technica, Shure or Grado, only these that fit to my budget.  :(
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: accastil on Aug 28, 2007 at 06:56 AM
the protractor is just to ensure parallelism of the needle with the lp grooves at any given position. if you can do it without its aid, yes u may....

with regards to cart selection, each has its different sonic character...know thyself...listen to as many options as you can....make your choice...in this particular order.

it really boils down to personal taste kc. goodluck doc.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: jay2 on Aug 28, 2007 at 03:09 PM
Hello, I finally tried analog, I have a Pioneer-12D (from the baul) and I bought MF-XLP from nadb, And bought a Shure m92 cartridge at audiophile. Anyways I would like to ask is when I played some LP's there was a loud and low hum. Pagnilakasan ko volume, masmalakas pa ang hum kaysa sa music.I checked my connections, ok naman lahat even grounding. When I lift the tonearm wala syang hum, when you touch the stylus may hum ulit. Tester ko mga cable sa headshell and tonearm ok naman lahat at hindi grounded. Ano po kayang problema?

Even with the loud hum I still tried listening, feel ko mas malaki ang soundstage at maraming pop. After 5 mins tinigil ko na sakit na ng ulo ko sa hum  ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: audiojunkie on Aug 28, 2007 at 03:13 PM
have you check the platter and spindle? it has to be grounded also.. check also the power supply, this maybe the culprit... again double check all wirings just to make sure.... ;D Good Luck! :D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: jay2 on Aug 28, 2007 at 03:20 PM
naka ground naman ang platter and the tonearm. With the tt power supply not yet, will do it tonight.  Thanks audiojunkie.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: devo on Aug 28, 2007 at 04:41 PM
naka ground naman ang platter and the tonearm. With the tt power supply not yet, will do it tonight.  Thanks audiojunkie.

try checking the wire contact on the cartridge pins, minsan akala mo naka solder pero putol pala sa joint.

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Jagner on Aug 28, 2007 at 05:42 PM
That would be a grounding problem.  Check the ground wire between the turntable and phonostage if it's properly secured.  If hum still occurs, extend the ground wire up the the amp.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: docsialu on Aug 28, 2007 at 06:20 PM
I had a hum problem also when i first bought my turntable, when i brought it to the shop for repair what the technician did was to replace the old phono rca cables with new ones. after that wala na kahit konting hum.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Aug 28, 2007 at 10:58 PM
hi guys, nag experiment ako kagabi, i hooked up my turntable to my old cd tube buffer na pinagawa ko noon kay jojo, and to my surprise mas tumaba ung tunog, hehe, kaso lang may konting hum, pede rin pala un sa turntable, hindi lang pang cd,  ;D

bro, walang "ground" yung tube buffer di ba?? baka kaya may hum?? what's your TT pala??
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: docsialu on Aug 29, 2007 at 11:41 AM
hi jen,

kumusta diha sa dabaw bai?  ;D

actually before i replaced the phono cables ang lakas ng hum kahit nakakabit ung ground sa ampli, then pinapalitan ko sa audioworld tapos nawala yung hum

Ngayon kapag nakakabit diretso sa amp walang hum pero when i use the tube buffer what i do is connect the ground to the amp but the phono cable to the tube buffer and another cable from the buffer to the amp, un nga lang may konting hum that is barely audible when using the buffer, otherwise its ok naman

BTW, the tt is an old technics sl1600 which i got from wiredstate b&s

cheers,

sandy
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: audiojunkie on Aug 29, 2007 at 12:36 PM
I guess bypass connection is the reason of hum... why connect the ground parallel to your cable to tube buffer then to amp..  :D

Just my 2cents... ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: docsialu on Aug 29, 2007 at 02:15 PM
I guess bypass connection is the reason of hum... why connect the ground parallel to your cable to tube buffer then to amp..  :D

Just my 2cents...

di ko na alam paano gawin yang suggestion nyo sir, hehe   ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Jagner on Aug 29, 2007 at 06:18 PM
di ko na alam paano gawin yang suggestion nyo sir, hehe   ;D

Simple, connect the ground wire of your turntable to the tube buffer  chassis, then extend the ground wire so that this is also connected to your amp. 
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: docsialu on Aug 29, 2007 at 06:42 PM
But the tube buffer doesnt have the usual kabitan ng ground, unlike the amp
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: audiojunkie on Aug 29, 2007 at 07:14 PM
is it has screws for top cover? if yes unscrew one at the back or side then connect the ground wire then in series connect another wire to your amp. if none, scratch small area at the bottom of the case then solder small wire or eyelit wire connector to cnnect the ground wire. ( buffer => amp ) This is called pararllel connection of audio wire and ground wire...  ::)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: frootloops on Jan 04, 2008 at 09:57 PM
Bought myself a portable TT. Now I can always listen when I am in my living room, bedroom, while having coffee at the dining table, toilet?  ;D

(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h134/donnel111/pt01_cover_angle_med.jpg) (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h134/donnel111/pt01_angle_med.jpg)

12” x 12” x 4” – fits easily into record crates to make transportation easy and convenient
Built–in carrying handle, and removable dust cover with locking slide latch
Headphone output with 1/8” & 1/4” jacks
Plays at 33, 45 and 78 RPM speeds
±10% pitch control
Tone and gain control
On–board monitor speaker
Line level output
12v AC transformer included for use without batteries
45 adapter included
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: The Analog Source on Jan 05, 2008 at 11:45 PM
galing nyan ah..... pwede pang office. :)
how much did you score it sir?  :) locally available?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: docsialu on Jan 06, 2008 at 06:45 PM
saan makakabili nyan  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: frootloops on Jan 06, 2008 at 11:46 PM
Got it at 5th Ave Shangri-la for 5T+.

I met a friend and bought some 80's LP's at Rockwell. He was so amazed, we were listening while having beer!  ;D It is also battery operated.  8)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on Jan 07, 2008 at 08:51 AM
I was in Raon last week and saw that turntable sold there. I'm not sure which part of the street but it could be the Ang Bros. or their neighbors. Also check Pacific Electronics in front of the Angs' store. If not there, check the shops on the other side of Raon going to Ongpin.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: The Analog Source on Jan 07, 2008 at 10:06 AM
bili ka na doc,

tamang tama yan pantest ng plaka sa flea markets :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Brian_mico on Jan 07, 2008 at 10:54 AM


Doc, Halls,

    Yung isang kasama natin sa Bakal Boyz, dami ganyan portable.. just saw it nung Saturday... you will amaze how it sounds.   ;) ;)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Jagner on Jan 07, 2008 at 03:59 PM
(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc28/jonagner/DSCF5298.jpg)

This I got from the Save on Surplus store.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: The Analog Source on Jan 07, 2008 at 06:42 PM
jon, meron pa ba? saan branch?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Jagner on Jan 07, 2008 at 06:51 PM
jon, meron pa ba? saan branch?

Noly,

Got it from the SOS branch here at Ever Ortigas, a month ago.  Nagpapahanap pa ako sa kanila, as my officemates would like to have one too.  Wala pang feedback
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dana on Jan 13, 2008 at 08:00 AM
(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc28/jonagner/DSCF5298.jpg)

This I got from the Save on Surplus store.


Wow, this looks cool :D
Is this a new production tt?
Portable, battery operated,what are the controls in front?
thanks...
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: halvert on Jan 13, 2008 at 03:09 PM
I called up 5th avenue shang and glorietta, wala na daw silang numark portable turntable :-[
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dana on Jan 14, 2008 at 11:22 AM
I called up 5th avenue shang and glorietta, wala na daw silang numark portable turntable :-[

try calling the mother company, AVESCO
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: frootloops on Jan 14, 2008 at 07:51 PM
Is AVESCO in Cubao? Kasi when I got mine I had to wait for an hour or two since they will have to get the item from Cubao pa daw.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: halvert on Jan 14, 2008 at 08:07 PM
pahingi naman ng contact number ng avesco. thanks!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Jagner on Jan 15, 2008 at 06:07 PM

Wow, this looks cool :D
Is this a new production tt?
Portable, battery operated,what are the controls in front?
thanks...

Dana,

Yes, new production.  The left knob is for the power & volume control, while the right knob is the tuner.  The switch beside the power/volume knob is for the 3 function selector (Radio, Phono, Tape)  while the other switch is for AM/FM.  The TT is automatic, it'll turn on once you engage the tonearm onto the record, and will automatically turn off when it hits the inner groove.  It has 33/45/78 speed selector.  It's a stereo, thus, it has two speakers, one on each side.

It's not battery operated, unfortunately, but with some DIYing skills I think this could be easily converted to DC power.

Also, it has a lineout, thus easy to upload music into my PC.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dana on Jan 17, 2008 at 04:18 PM
thanks Jagner.

cool stuff....love seeing these things.
sana may matisod like this, pandagdag sa collection... ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dana on Jan 17, 2008 at 04:26 PM
pahingi naman ng contact number ng avesco. thanks!

AVESCO main is in aurora blvd,cubao.
check this & balitaan mo kami ..
>http://avescomktg.inegosyo.com/companyproducts-0-1.html
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: pinoyhd on Feb 19, 2008 at 07:44 AM
Pls. help, vinyl gurus.

I recently acquired a surplus Technics SL-1900.  I managed to find a replacement Sony cartridge, the model of which I do not know, since it is not indicated anywhere.  The accompanying stylus has marking ND-14G.  I searched the web, and this is one I have found:

http://cgi.ebay.com/SONY-ND150G-Turntable-Stylus,-ND-14G,--ND14G,-ND-14G_W0QQitemZ280196780326QQcmdZViewItem?IMSfp=TL0801310851a17921

So the cartridge could be any of these:
SONY  VL-14G, VL14G,  XL-14GS, XL14GS

On the cartridge box was written PS11.  So, it could actually be an original replacement for the Sony PS11, with S type tonearm.

Now, the question is:  Is this cartridge and/or stylus any good?
Is it better than the stock cartridge EPC-271CS and stock stylus 270ED/270SD (which I could not source out, btw)?
What better cartridge/stylus combo could you suggest to match the SL-1900?

TIA.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: The Analog Source on Feb 19, 2008 at 09:47 AM
if you want stylus replacement for your sony cart....  u can check out DEECO, WATSON in raon.... bring your cart so you can check fittings as they have different numberings.

else for no fuss and budget replacement, you can get the shure m92e (P790) or the shure 44-7 (P2500+) at Audiophile store all around the metro.  U can also check Music store at EDSA near munoz. They have stanton cart for less than 1k.  other options will set you back more than 5k already. make sure you have the cart aligned properly before using for a more pleasurable listenning  ;)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sandawa on Feb 19, 2008 at 12:57 PM
EPC-270 and EPC-280 Technics cartridges are in my collection. I found a couple of spare original stylus for these here in Davao. They're good but I'm not selling them. If you want a good vintage Technics cartridge that could compete favorably with expensive new production models, look for any EPC-205C series !! or Mark 3 and 4.  This series was released in '70s yet -- prices ranging from 20,000 to 40,000 yen -- and who knows, you may find one in Raon at less than P1K. I have a 205C-IIS which is my favorite Technics cart, so far.
 
BTW, I also have here a Sony XL-15 and an XL-25 and I'm not happy with them.


Pls. help, vinyl gurus.

I recently acquired a surplus Technics SL-1900.  I managed to find a replacement Sony cartridge, the model of which I do not know, since it is not indicated anywhere.  The accompanying stylus has marking ND-14G.  I searched the web, and this is one I have found:

http://cgi.ebay.com/SONY-ND150G-Turntable-Stylus,-ND-14G,--ND14G,-ND-14G_W0QQitemZ280196780326QQcmdZViewItem?IMSfp=TL0801310851a17921

So the cartridge could be any of these:
SONY  VL-14G, VL14G,  XL-14GS, XL14GS

On the cartridge box was written PS11.  So, it could actually be an original replacement for the Sony PS11, with S type tonearm.

Now, the question is:  Is this cartridge and/or stylus any good?
Is it better than the stock cartridge EPC-271CS and stock stylus 270ED/270SD (which I could not source out, btw)?
What better cartridge/stylus combo could you suggest to match the SL-1900?

TIA.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: pinoyhd on Feb 20, 2008 at 05:43 AM
Sir halls,

Thank you for the Shure suggestions.  I will check these specific models you mentioned.
How would you compare Shure versus Audio Technica carts? or Stanton, for that matter?
I have yet to get my hands on cart alignment :-)

btw, I am from Cebu, so I have yet to check if those metro manila stores are willing to ship items over here.  Or I'll make do with the web.

Sir Sandawa,

Thanks for those Technics tips. Haven't seen much here in Cebu during my last roam.  I'd ask for more info.  There could be other stores with gems in them.  I'd be on the lookout for those carts you mentioned.  I actually have the stock EPC-271CS.  I'll just keep it while waiting for some luck to get hold of matching stylus.

I am relieved to know you do not like your Sony XL-14.  That means my SL-1900 could still sing better  ;D

Thanks again.

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: The Analog Source on Feb 20, 2008 at 08:29 AM
most people like the shure particularly the 447 because of the fuller bass.
my personal preference is the AT because of the mids :)
no experience with stanton but i believe use mainly for DJing as it has better tracking :)

check out www.vinylengine.com for cart alignment :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: stereophile on Feb 20, 2008 at 12:46 PM
If you want to lessen the bass and have richer mids, simply swap the stock replaceable stylus (N44) with a N55 stylus w/c is available also in Audiophile. I don't change VTF when I do the swap. It has a more refined character vs the stock which is more for club use.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: frootloops on Mar 06, 2008 at 07:54 PM
Anyone?   ;D

(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h134/donnel111/vw.jpg)

http://www.htfr.com/more-info/MR70235
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: 3j on Apr 12, 2008 at 12:57 PM
Hi TT gurus,

Need help po. I just got an old Hitachi Lo-D HT-352 direct Drive TT (looks junk but still working, it has a dust cover but already detached and lots of cracks, the unit need to be re-polish,  also needs a needle replacement).

-Where can I buy the same stylus for this kind of TT?
-Is it ok to completely remove the dust cover and replace it with a cloth when not in use?
-what is the safe cleaner or polish to use?


Thanks in advance.

3j. :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: stereophile on Apr 12, 2008 at 03:22 PM
Hi TT gurus,

Need help po. I just got an old Hitachi Lo-D HT-352 direct Drive TT (looks junk but still working, it has a dust cover but already detached and lots of cracks, the unit need to be re-polish,  also needs a needle replacement).

-Where can I buy the same stylus for this kind of TT?
-Is it ok to completely remove the dust cover and replace it with a cloth when not in use?
-what is the safe cleaner or polish to use?


Thanks in advance.


3j. :)

It will help if you can post a pic of your ttable. I'm not sure if it's a1/2 mount or P-mount cartridge required. You can buy either mount cart at Audiopjile stores. They carry the Shure line of cartridges. The Shure M92 is a P-mount w/ an adaptor for 1/2 mount. This may be your best bet. Cart mounting will be your next problem. Check this out: http://www.audiophilia.com/features/cartridge_setup.htm (http://www.audiophilia.com/features/cartridge_setup.htm)

Many remove the covers and just leave open. You may use a light cloth, but be carefull when removing. You may catch the stylus. :'(   On the other hand, you may have a new acrylic cover made.

Polish? Plege is ok. Don't use on the rubber mat or cartridge.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: 3j on Apr 14, 2008 at 09:51 AM
It will help if you can post a pic of your ttable. I'm not sure if it's a1/2 mount or P-mount cartridge required. You can buy either mount cart at Audiopjile stores. They carry the Shure line of cartridges. The Shure M92 is a P-mount w/ an adaptor for 1/2 mount. This may be your best bet. Cart mounting will be your next problem. Check this out: http://www.audiophilia.com/features/cartridge_setup.htm (http://www.audiophilia.com/features/cartridge_setup.htm)

Many remove the covers and just leave open. You may use a light cloth, but be carefull when removing. You may catch the stylus. :'(   On the other hand, you may have a new acrylic cover made.

Polish? Plege is ok. Don't use on the rubber mat or cartridge.

[/quote]

Thank you very much sir stereopile,

I got a pic from the net of Hitachi HT-354 which is the same with my unit, but don't know how to post the image.

I'll post the net image or the actual unit later.
I've been from audiophile and they have the shure stylus worth Php 2500 mura na po ba yun?,  they ask me to bring the headshell and they will also install it for me once I bought the cart.

I also found out na putol ang ground wire, pinagdugtong ko na lang, do I need to solder it?  Thanks po.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: 3j on Apr 14, 2008 at 01:08 PM
(http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk179/3j01/ht-354.jpg)

Hi Sir Stereopile here's the pics from the net. This is the Hitachi Lo-D HT-354 mine is Hitachi Lo-D HT-352 features and appearance are the same the only difference is the color 352 is silver, rubber mat different in design, and mine is too old and without cover.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: iceman90a on Apr 14, 2008 at 07:03 PM
a Shure M447 will go well with that :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: 3j on Apr 15, 2008 at 09:23 AM
Thanks Ice. :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: stereophile on Apr 16, 2008 at 06:16 AM
3j- You are lucky. Your ttable uses a universal headshell. You can use 1/2 mount carts. You have many options. I recommend a Shure M44-7 because the stylus is replaceable & avavailable at audiophile stores. No problem with the ground wire twisted together. If you want a better grounding, it is best if you have a new and longer one soldered to the grounding tab-replacing the old one. It wont cost you much. As to the cover, you can have a new one made for it. Just bring the original with the hinges attached. They can transfer the hinges. Enjoy your analog journey.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: 3j on Apr 16, 2008 at 10:05 AM
Sir Stereophile, thanks so much for your very helpful suggestions. :)
Need to get Shure M44-7.

Cheers.

3j
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: kulapong on Oct 05, 2008 at 09:01 PM
Mga TT gurus,

want to try analog,....anybody who has pre-owned Technics TT, or ok ba ung USB TT na available sa ebay,..same lang ba in terms of quality?

Salamat!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Jagner on Oct 22, 2008 at 10:27 AM
Mga TT gurus,

want to try analog,....anybody who has pre-owned Technics TT, or ok ba ung USB TT na available sa ebay,..same lang ba in terms of quality?

Salamat!

Both current NAD and Pro-Ject phonostage pre-amps have a USB outputs, and are locally available.

As for the technics,  visit the Marketplace section once a while.   :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: halvert on Jul 29, 2009 at 05:36 PM
i saw this on another site... ok ba ito?
http://www.ayosdito.ph/NCR/1078230-Retro+Style+Turntable+with+Tuner.htm? (http://www.ayosdito.ph/NCR/1078230-Retro+Style+Turntable+with+Tuner.htm?)

i bought a pre-owned akai sa marketplace dati pero nasira motor nya after a few months.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Jul 29, 2009 at 11:30 PM
i saw this on another site... ok ba ito?
http://www.ayosdito.ph/NCR/1078230-Retro+Style+Turntable+with+Tuner.htm? (http://www.ayosdito.ph/NCR/1078230-Retro+Style+Turntable+with+Tuner.htm?)

i bought a pre-owned akai sa marketplace dati pero nasira motor nya after a few months.

This is OK, but is like a "toy"...do not expect too much on the sound quality, but it serves its purpose...I have two of these...HOWEVER, as per your link, the price is WAY TOO MUCH...Thanks!

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3180/2997443245_817759a64d.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3055/3028111663_2b6b955dab.jpg)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: John E. on Jul 30, 2009 at 06:53 AM
daming ganyan sa EBAY.PH mas mura pa ;) portable din pwede pang office.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: gearhead000 on Aug 01, 2009 at 07:06 PM
finally, after almost more than a year of it just sitting in its box...
my audio technica AT-PL120 can now breath some fresh air.   ;)

(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/329/dsc4200.jpg)

with the AT-P2XN cartridge and stylus:
(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7025/dsc4212.jpg)
"View Image" for larger picture.

a more comprehensive initial impressions later.  ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: pekspert on Aug 01, 2009 at 08:34 PM
i saw this on another site... ok ba ito?
http://www.ayosdito.ph/NCR/1078230-Retro+Style+Turntable+with+Tuner.htm? (http://www.ayosdito.ph/NCR/1078230-Retro+Style+Turntable+with+Tuner.htm?)

i bought a pre-owned akai sa marketplace dati pero nasira motor nya after a few months.

I had one of those before but i already sold it for about P2,200 ata.

Na-miss ko tuloy Mk2's ko when i went to this thread. :(
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: frootloops on Aug 01, 2009 at 08:38 PM
I had one of those before but i already sold it for about P2,200 ata.

Na-miss ko tuloy Mk2's ko when i went to this thread. :(

Those were the days huh? Letting people stand up and dance!  ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: halvert on Sep 02, 2009 at 05:02 PM
meron din ako nakita sa ebay and sulit.com.ph, usb turntables.
http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/1509762/Fission+USB+turntable (http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/1509762/Fission+USB+turntable)
 good or no good?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: simonzaide on Sep 02, 2009 at 06:01 PM
meron din ako nakita sa ebay and sulit.com.ph, usb turntables.
http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/1509762/Fission+USB+turntable (http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/1509762/Fission+USB+turntable)
 good or no good?

we actually have someone who sells that here .. and i think a few people have bought hopefully we can get some reviews from them
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: pete80 on Sep 16, 2009 at 11:52 AM
Hi,
I have moved to Cebu from UK and shipped over my Hi-Fi seperates and my 50+ year old Vinyl collection as well as some 78 rpm's.

Okay, my Cambridge Audio Amp, Mission and Gale speakers, JVC Graphic etc work fine here as UK has a similar voltage but my 27 year old Sony Front Loader turntable cannot be used here because the cycle rate in The Phils is 60hz instead of 50hz in the UK. My records would spin 20 faster. ha ha.

What I need is some help about anywhere in Cebu that I could buy a decent quality turntable, hopefully one like the Project USB which can either be used for converting to MP3 or be used as a normal turntable with my amp.  I have been to Soundroom in SM Cebu and many other stores but "No stock!" is all I hear.

I also shipped a ION USB turntable over here in the container but it has a fault and only records off one channel, apparently a batch of these ION's had a fault but I don't plan on going back to the UK to sort it out

If anyone can help with some info on where to get my Vinyl back on the road again I would be grateful,  I am not happy with my small CD collection.

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: JoeyGS on Sep 16, 2009 at 12:15 PM
Hi Pete,

Project turntables can be bought in manila and I guess shipping to cebu is not a problem.

You can contact Acoustic Dimension and following is the link in another local website:

http://www.wiredstate.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=5248&hilit=project+turntables (http://www.wiredstate.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=5248&hilit=project+turntables)

BTW, are you filipino?

Goodluck and regards,
JoeyGS
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: onedown on Sep 16, 2009 at 12:38 PM
pete,

try visiting sounds n images.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: niquee on Oct 18, 2009 at 04:28 PM
check sulit.com.ph, there are alot of turntables @ bargain right now
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: audiojunkie on Oct 18, 2009 at 06:16 PM
@pete, try to find voltage regulator that has fixed 50hz output..  ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: John E. on Dec 16, 2009 at 05:16 AM
brader mon post mo dito yung mga turntables mo ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: kulroy2003 on Nov 02, 2012 at 04:22 PM
need help, i have a pioneer pc11 cartridge, my stylus is defective already, ive search the net and comes out with a replacement 624D7
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: ThinkGranny on Dec 13, 2012 at 01:02 AM
Sirs,

Ok ba ang DENON DP-300F? How much ba price nito dito sapinas?

http://usa.denon.com/us/product/pages/productdetail.aspx?pcatid=audiocomponents(denonna)&catid=turntables(denonna)&pid=d
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: onedown on Dec 13, 2012 at 08:16 AM
i have one, and it works for me. it has a built-in phono stage that can be disabled. it's hooked up to my head amp.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: JCyde on Dec 13, 2012 at 11:06 AM
Saw these turntables last night @ Heima Store, LRI Makati
The Denon DP-300F Turntable & Crosley Turntables O0

(http://i47.tinypic.com/211l1qp.jpg)

(http://i46.tinypic.com/qz4won.jpg)

(http://i47.tinypic.com/2629lx2.jpg)


Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: stockHT on Feb 21, 2013 at 11:57 PM
Saw these turntables last night @ Heima Store, LRI Makati
The Denon DP-300F Turntable & Crosley Turntables O0

(http://i47.tinypic.com/211l1qp.jpg)

(http://i46.tinypic.com/qz4won.jpg)

(http://i47.tinypic.com/2629lx2.jpg)





is the DP300F for sale??
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: -mhan- on Jul 16, 2013 at 02:49 PM
nag backread ako from page 1 to this last page.

gusto ko lang malaman kung mayron pang nagrerepair ng SANSUI turntable

yung model ng Turntable ko SANSUI FR-D4, actually wala ng needle at ayaw na mag automatic yung arm niya para mag play sa plaka. mga magkano kaya magagastos pag ganun, or ibenta nalang kaya? ^-^
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Jagner on Jul 22, 2013 at 02:47 PM
nag backread ako from page 1 to this last page.

gusto ko lang malaman kung mayron pang nagrerepair ng SANSUI turntable

yung model ng Turntable ko SANSUI FR-D4, actually wala ng needle at ayaw na mag automatic yung arm niya para mag play sa plaka. mga magkano kaya magagastos pag ganun, or ibenta nalang kaya? ^-^

try mong dalhin sa The Analog Source/Noly Dy, baka maayos niya
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: -mhan- on Jul 22, 2013 at 04:40 PM
try mong dalhin sa The Analog Source/Noly Dy, baka maayos niya

saan po yun sir?anung address po? usually mga magkano po magagastos po.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Jagner on Jul 24, 2013 at 10:34 AM
Here you go (as posted in WS)

The Analog Source

YOUR ONE STOP ANALOG EQUIPMENT AND SUPPLIES SHOP is located at
324 GEN. VICENTE LIM ST., LITTLE BAGUIO, SAN JUAN CITY

How to get here...
(commute instructions: at ortigas-edsa, take bus bound to quiapo. get off at abad santos. orange place hotel at the corner.
take the road downhill. left at 2nd street. then at next intersection, we are there WHITE AND BLUE TILE FACADE. we are neighbors)
drive instructions: from edsa ortigas.. count 5 stoplight. (its madison - northgreenhills gate/mercury/starbucks at corner). turn left.
go to end. turn right. about 100m, me street left side of big bldg. left dun. pass small bridge then right next corner.
at next Y intersection..we are there. WHITE and BLUE TILE FACADE.

goggle map link here....
https://maps.google.com.ph/maps?expflags=enable_star_based_justifications:true&ie=UTF8&cid=12368442062808884595&q=The+Analog+Source&iwloc=A&gl=PH&hl=en

Our contact numbers are
964.76.54; 0917.796.3998 direct line
744.49.61 to 62 office hours only (9am-6pm)

send us email at
[email protected]
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: komiksboy on Aug 23, 2013 at 09:29 PM
Hello!

kakabili ko lang ng Rega RP1. ask ko lang kung ano ok na amp at speakers na abot kaya vintage 2nd hand para mura.

beginner lang ako hehe. 

thank you!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: thebat on Aug 24, 2013 at 10:34 AM
@ komiksboy, congrats sa pagbili mo ng rega rp1! Ganda nyan. What color kinuha mo?

Yung rega brio-r best amp for that pero mahal din. Pero madami dyan na ok na 2nd hand dedicated stereo amp for turntable talaga. Hanap hanap ka na lang.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: xtian_lugz on Aug 27, 2013 at 11:19 AM
Mga sirs what is the best budget MM cart for jelco tonearm on a lenco GL75? Also what whould be the matching phonostage for the the recommended cart? Thanks
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Aug 27, 2013 at 11:26 AM
Mga sirs what is the best budget MM cart for jelco tonearm on a lenco GL75? Also what whould be the matching phonostage for the the recommended cart? Thanks

bkt sir mm? why not mc, since youll be getting a seperate phono stage na din naman....

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: xtian_lugz on Aug 27, 2013 at 02:02 PM
bkt sir mm? why not mc, since youll be getting a seperate phono stage na din naman....



budget minded lng sir thinking using an MC would spend much kaya i just use MM since. Currently im using AT95b with rega fono mini and i dont like the sound. i would guess mismatch ng cart sa phono stage? Budget wise what would be a good MC cart and a phono stage with my TT?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 27, 2013 at 02:10 PM
Bookmarked
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Aug 27, 2013 at 03:23 PM
You can start w/ an MF XLP, XLPS or VLPS for starters...if you have additional budget, you can also opt to choose a Lehmann Black Cube SE...as for MC Carts, you can't go wrong with a Denon DL-103 or 103R...you may want to also consider Benz Micro MC Gold...

Thanks!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: JoeyGS on Aug 27, 2013 at 04:37 PM
Giving us an idea of your estimated budget so that recommendations closer to your budget can be made.

For MM, you also have Ortofon and Grado as good candidates.

For a budget phono preamp, I have used a modded MF VLPS and had very good results especially if connected to a DC battery for power supply.  MF VLPS is already MM and MC capable.  But if you have resources to purchase in Singapore or the US, I would highly recommend the iFi Phono, also MM and MC capable.

budget minded lng sir thinking using an MC would spend much kaya i just use MM since. Currently im using AT95b with rega fono mini and i dont like the sound. i would guess mismatch ng cart sa phono stage? Budget wise what would be a good MC cart and a phono stage with my TT?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 27, 2013 at 04:47 PM

for home user

will it be fine to use AUTOMATIC TT rather than manual?

what are the disadv and adv?

lets say sl1200 manual vs automatic like sl1650
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Aug 27, 2013 at 04:54 PM
Depends on you...if you're the lazy type and would sleep right after a few songs then auto is OK...
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Aug 27, 2013 at 05:12 PM
lehman black cube SE and benz micro gold! for mm ill go with ortofon 2m black.
Title: Turntable Part 2
Post by: mykel18 on Aug 27, 2013 at 05:29 PM

for home user

will it be fine to use AUTOMATIC TT rather than manual?

what are the disadv and adv?

lets say sl1200 manual vs automatic like sl1650

Kung automatic, baka meron yung Thorens dealer dito para brand new. Pero syempre mas maganda manual.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: -mhan- on Aug 27, 2013 at 05:44 PM
*edit
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Aug 27, 2013 at 05:56 PM
Hi! You can have it checked c/o hyperaudio or TAS...by the way, there is a dedicated thread for selling. Selling is not allowed here. Thanks!

Quote
sa mga gusto, pm niyo nalang ako. ;)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: -mhan- on Aug 27, 2013 at 05:57 PM
Hi! You can have it checked c/o hyperaudio or TAS...by the way, there is a dedicated thread for selling. Selling is not allowed here. Thanks!

sorry sir.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: ndotcom on Aug 27, 2013 at 07:06 PM
 
for home user

will it be fine to use AUTOMATIC TT rather than manual?

what are the disadv and adv?

lets say sl1200 manual vs automatic like sl1650

Manual pa rin maintenance wise, at ala click clack ng gears ng auto mechanism  :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: ndotcom on Aug 27, 2013 at 07:18 PM
budget minded lng sir thinking using an MC would spend much kaya i just use MM since. Currently im using AT95b with rega fono mini and i dont like the sound. i would guess mismatch ng cart sa phono stage? Budget wise what would be a good MC cart and a phono stage with my TT?

MF XLP sir kung meron pa, shure m91ed, m97x or if meron shure v15 type III with orig stylus
creek obh15 ortofon red or blue

I have no MC cart pa pero once I go there I would go for a step up transformer
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 27, 2013 at 07:33 PM

Manual pa rin maintenance wise, at ala click clack ng gears ng auto mechanism  :)
thanks - sl 1200 nalang siguro ako - ipon pa konti hehe
anung disadv ng manual? kapag nakatulog ka? sira ung needle?

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: ndotcom on Aug 27, 2013 at 07:45 PM
thanks - sl 1200 nalang siguro ako - ipon pa konti hehe
anung disadv ng manual? kapag nakatulog ka? sira ung needle?



Di ko pa na try natulugan kasi alam mo naman plaka pinapatugtug mo so alert ka at wait mo matapos ang record, pero alam ko dapat di masira ang needle dahil design ng record na dapat di lalampas or papasok sa record label ang stylus, ikot ikot lang dapat siya dun sa no record grooves. Ang siste lang eh maingay or hizz habang naikot sa dulo ang ouput sa amp to speakers mo.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: rony on Aug 27, 2013 at 09:41 PM
Mga sirs what is the best budget MM cart for jelco tonearm on a lenco GL75? Also what whould be the matching phonostage for the the recommended cart? Thanks

Baka gusto mo i try Precision Fidelity C7 phono preamp(passive line active phono), MM cart nga lang once na mag MC need mo na ng step up transformer.
 
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: carlos888 on Aug 27, 2013 at 10:08 PM
Baka gusto mo i try Precision Fidelity C7 phono preamp(passive line active phono), MM cart nga lang once na mag MC need mo na ng step up transformer.
 

Bro are you selling your PF C7?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Aug 27, 2013 at 11:41 PM
Bro are you selling your PF C7?

yun o! tanong agad ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
up for this legendary phono preamp :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: komiksboy on Aug 28, 2013 at 08:30 PM
Color white sir! :)

newbie kasi ako sir di ko din alam yung mga vintage kung ano maganda hehehe.

@ komiksboy, congrats sa pagbili mo ng rega rp1! Ganda nyan. What color kinuha mo?

Yung rega brio-r best amp for that pero mahal din. Pero madami dyan na ok na 2nd hand dedicated stereo amp for turntable talaga. Hanap hanap ka na lang.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: rony on Aug 28, 2013 at 09:09 PM
Bro are you selling your PF C7?

Di pa sa ngayon sir me hinihintay pa.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 28, 2013 at 09:49 PM
Di ko pa na try natulugan kasi alam mo naman plaka pinapatugtug mo so alert ka at wait mo matapos ang record, pero alam ko dapat di masira ang needle dahil design ng record na dapat di lalampas or papasok sa record label ang stylus, ikot ikot lang dapat siya dun sa no record grooves. Ang siste lang eh maingay or hizz habang naikot sa dulo ang ouput sa amp to speakers mo.
awts...nabili na ung murang sl1200 huhuhuhu.....

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Tempter on Aug 29, 2013 at 11:44 AM
Hi gurus,

Thinking of venturing to the world of vinyls. Anyone here has experience with Technics SL-DD20??? Is it any good? Are the replacement parts still available? Or will this give me a lot of headaches in the future?  >:D

TIA
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Aug 29, 2013 at 01:35 PM
Hi gurus,

Thinking of venturing to the world of vinyls. Anyone here has experience with Technics SL-DD20??? Is it any good? Are the replacement parts still available? Or will this give me a lot of headaches in the future?  >:D

TIA

Sir better go for SL1300, SL1600, SL1700 or if you have the budget, SL1200 MK2 (or MK3, MK3D/M3D, MK5, MK6, MK5G/M5G variants). The reason why the SL1200/1210 remains high in value (whether new or used) is not only because of its durability but also because of parts availability. I have repaired other Technics models but unfortunately when some parts are damaged, replacements are really hard to find. Most of the time, salvaging parts from other units is the only solution. Brand new parts for the 1200s can still be ordered.

So basically when other Technics models have broken parts, repairing and restoring them to it's original state would be very difficult. Especially the ones with automatic cueing tone arms. Same thing applies with Stanton turntables. Their parts aren't easily available.

Just a note: Some people would claim that Stantons are better than Technics because of it's torque (aka world's strongest motor). But in reality, the torque of Technics is more than enough and no need for a stronger one. Also, Stanton decks have very cheap construction especially in the internal. The SL1200 uses it's main diecast frame as its heatsink as part of its unique design whereas the Stanton (ST-150/STR-150) have metal fins internally that serves as heatsinks and gets really hot inside. Some other features that Stanton have added are basically useless especially for home use. They have no resale value like Technics SL1200 does. So going for the 1200s is a very good investment.

I'm not being biased here on Technics 1200s but millions of people who own them would agree. They are built like tanks. I would 100% choose a used SL1200 MK2 (and other variants) over a brand new Stanton anytime.

:)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Tempter on Aug 29, 2013 at 01:46 PM
Sir better go for SL1300, SL1600, SL1700 or if you have the budget, SL1200 MK2 (or MK3, MK3D/M3D, MK5, MK6, MK5G/M5G variants). The reason why the SL1200/1210 remains high in value (whether new or used) is not only because of its durability but also because of parts availability. I have repaired other Technics models but unfortunately when some parts are damaged, replacements are really hard to find. Most of the time, salvaging parts from other units is the only solution. Brand new parts for the 1200s can still be ordered.

So basically when other Technics models have broken parts, repairing and restoring them to it's original state would be very difficult. Especially the ones with automatic cueing tone arms. Same this applies with Stanton turntables. Their parts aren't easily available.

Just a note: Some people would claim that Stantons are better than Technics because of it's torque (aka world's strongest motor). But in reality, the torque of Technics is more than enough and no need for a stronger one. Also, Stanton decks have very cheap construction especially in the internal. The SL1200 uses it's main diecast frame as its heatsink as part of its unique design whereas the Stanton (ST-150/STR-150) have metal fins internally that serves as heatsinks and gets really hot inside. Some other features that Stanton have added are basically useless especially for home use. They have no resale value like Technics SL1200 does. So going for the 1200s is a very good investment.

I'm not being biased here on Technics 1200s but millions of people who own them would agree. They are built like tanks. I would 100% choose a used SL1200 MK2 (and other variants) over a brand new Stanton anytime.

:)

Wow! Thanks so much for the detailed explanation sir. ;)

Actually, gusto ko nga sana yang sl1200s na yan, yun nga lang I was thinking sa mura lang muna kaya ko naisip yan SLDD20. Since you have confirmed na medyo delikado sya for replacement parts, nagdalawang isip nako kahit mura lang.

Oh well, kelangan siguro talagang manghunting ng SL1200 series longer serviceability... ;)

How about yung mga vintage na Sony, JVC or Pioneer, are they any good? Or any model in particular?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Aug 29, 2013 at 01:54 PM
If I may further suggest, better save up for an SL-1200 so that it will be a one time-big time expense for you...can't go wrong w/ the SL-1200!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Tempter on Aug 29, 2013 at 01:58 PM
If I may further suggest, better save up for an SL-1200 so that it will be a one time-big time expense for you...can't go wrong w/ the SL-1200!

Actually parang sold na nga ako sa SL1200, just keeping my options open kasi on a limited budget (which might balloon pag anjan na sa harap ko ang item ;D) dahil may iba pang priority currently...
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Aug 29, 2013 at 02:16 PM

How about yung mga vintage na Sony, JVC or Pioneer, are they any good? Or any model in particular?


Sir since most (if not all) models from mainstream bands like Sony, Pioneer, JVC, Kenwood, etc have been discontinued long time ago, I doubt that their parts are easily available. So as suggested, go for Technics SL1200 (M3D or MK3D are the best models of the 1200 series).

Don't rush in getting one, I'm sure madami pa ma-huhunting dyan. If you need some figures about pricing of new-in-box and used units, PM me. May mga dumadating/dumadaan naman sa akin from time to time. :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Aug 29, 2013 at 02:24 PM
In case you find a beaten one at a very cheap price, don't hesitate and must go for it. Kaya natin ibalik sa dati yan sir.

Just like this one which I did in 2009.

This deck belongs to Embassy club. I picked it up looking like this.

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03126.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03127.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03128.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03141.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03142.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03143.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03140.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03145.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03138.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03139.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03412.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03413.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03414.jpg)

Scraped the paint to metal.
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03426.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03427.jpg)

Primer painted.
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03428.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03430.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03431.jpg)

Base paint.
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03435.jpg)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03450.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03451.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03452.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03453.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03454.jpg)

New parts
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03411.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03455.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03457.jpg)

Replaced the power LEDs to blue, 33/45 rpm LEDs to white and Pop-Up lamp to bright white LEDs.
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03456.jpg)

New aluminum pitch decals.

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03461.jpg)

Wet sanding after top clear coat.
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03441.jpg)

Getting ready for buffing. Compound, swirl remover, polish and wax.
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03443.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03444.jpg)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03442.jpg)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03458.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03459.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03460.jpg)

Scraped platter
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03462.jpg)

Newly painted
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03464.jpg)

Replaced parts were:

Pitch control (removed the bearings and springs)
Aluminum pitch decals
Tonearm rest/clips
Power switch
LEDs (pop-up lamps, 33/45rpm buttons, power switch strobe)
Turntable legs. 1 deck was missing 2 legs.
RCA cables and connectors. Eliminated the ground wires.

The base frame is finished in glossy white and all other parts are in flat white and flat black.
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03465.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03467.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03466.jpg)

White and black tonearm section
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03470.jpg)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03471.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03472.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03477.jpg)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03473.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03474.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03476.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03475.jpg)

The other pair. Finished in all flat colors. Replaced the pitch controls, tonearm rest/clips, LEDs.
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03405.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03406.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03408.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/DSC03409.jpg)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Tempter on Aug 29, 2013 at 02:25 PM
Sir since most (if not all) models from mainstream bands like Sony, Pioneer, JVC, Kenwood, etc have been discontinued long time ago, I doubt that their parts are easily available. So as suggested, go for Technics SL1200 (M3D or MK3D are the best models of the 1200 series).

Don't rush in getting one, I'm sure madami pa ma-huhunting dyan. If you need some figures about pricing of new-in-box and used units, PM me. May mga dumadating/dumadaan naman sa akin from time to time. :)

Nice... thanks! :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Aug 29, 2013 at 02:26 PM
Another one I did for allears/Ivan Esec (from Wired State) back in 2011.

I mixed the paint to match the exact color of the original SL-1210. The SL-1210 isn't really matte black. The color is actually very dark grey.

Before:
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1493.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1494.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1495.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1496.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1497.jpg)

General refurbishment:
-scraped and repainted the base frame
-repainted the rubber base
-scraped and repainted the tone arm section
-scraped and refaced/repaint/refaced the platter
-eliminated ground wire
-re-calibrated the tone arm to factory setting
-calibrated the pitch perfect setting
-lubricated the spindle
-all LED lights Strobe,33/45, pop up lamp and pitch
-replaced RCAs

Parts replaced:
-Aluminum pitch decal
-Brand new pitch control (this unit didn't have any when it arrived)
-Pitch PCB assembly (this unit didn't have any when it arrived)
-Pitch knob (this unit didn't have any when it arrived)

After:
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1499.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1501.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1502.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1503.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1504.jpg)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Aug 29, 2013 at 02:28 PM
Another pair I refurbished for Boyet Almazan in 2011.

A pair of SL1200LTD Limited series. These babies are limited in production numbers. The picture below is the condition of the decks before I took them apart.

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1431.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1432.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1433.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1434.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1435.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1436.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1437.jpg)

Scraped the paint to aluminum diecast
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1441.jpg)

Disassembled the power switch assembly...
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1443.jpg)

After cleaning the tone arm section...
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1439.jpg)

Re-built and calibrated the tone arm assembly...
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1442.jpg)

SL-1200 Limited plate before repaint and reface...
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1440.jpg)

...then
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1448.jpg)

Finished project.
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1451.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1455.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1452.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1453.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1461.jpg)

Replaced all lights to super bright white. Strobe, 33/45 and pop up lamps
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1460.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1459.jpg)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1456.jpg)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: HasBro™ on Aug 29, 2013 at 02:38 PM
Wow. Very nice craftsmanship... Ang galing
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: roadworthyninja on Aug 29, 2013 at 02:45 PM
@Nicadraus

hanep sir! parang kings of restoration lang :D

pm ako sa inyo sir pag may nakita akong second kung pwede pang parestore :)

meron ako entry level ng ng audio-technica, newbie kasi at balak ko mag upgrade :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: thebat on Aug 29, 2013 at 03:59 PM
ang galeng sir!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Aug 29, 2013 at 04:00 PM
Wow. Very nice craftsmanship... Ang galing

@Nicadraus

hanep sir! parang kings of restoration lang :D

pm ako sa inyo sir pag may nakita akong second kung pwede pang parestore :)

meron ako entry level ng ng audio-technica, newbie kasi at balak ko mag upgrade :)

ang galeng sir!

Thanks mga sir! :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Aug 29, 2013 at 04:05 PM
kala ko saken yung white eh! hehehehe WOWMALI ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Aug 29, 2013 at 04:10 PM
kala ko saken yung white eh! hehehehe WOWMALI ;D ;D ;D ;D

Sige post ko na din yung sayo bro.

Dodie Liwanag's Immaculate White SL1200. :)

-Top main frame, tone arm section and headshell are repainted in glossy white finish
-platter repainted and 3-step refaced
-All lights (strobe, 33/45, pop-up/target lamp, pitch indicator) are replaced with super-bright white LEDs
-Rubber base repainted to flat black
-RCA leads and conectors replaced
-Internally grounded
-pitch control calibrated
-tone arm rebuilt and calibrated
-sanded the scratches of the dust cover and buffed

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1528.jpg)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1535.jpg)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1529.jpg)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1530.jpg)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1533.jpg)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1534.jpg)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1532.jpg)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/Nicadraus/Technics/DSC_1536.jpg)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Aug 29, 2013 at 04:15 PM
hahahaha. now PDVD has a resident 1200MAGICMAN  :D :D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: jjohnc on Aug 29, 2013 at 04:16 PM
sre, ang galing mo...very nice...
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: JoeyGS on Aug 29, 2013 at 04:23 PM
Hi Nicadraus,

Where can I source the screws for the cover hinges? I was able to buy the cover hinges but it did not come with screws.  And what should be the screw type/size?

Thanks and regards,
JoeyGS
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: gamersdotcom88 on Aug 29, 2013 at 04:24 PM
Nice Job indeed sir Nicadraus. 
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Aug 29, 2013 at 04:27 PM
hahahaha. now PDVD has a resident 1200MAGICMAN  :D :D

sre, ang galing mo...very nice...

Thanks mga sir! :)

Hi Nicadraus,

Where can I source the screws for the cover hinges? I was able to buy the cover hinges but it did not come with screws.  And what should be the screw type/size?

Thanks and regards,
JoeyGS

I'll check if I still have screws in stock sir. PM ko kayo pag meron. :)

Nice Job indeed sir Nicadraus. 

Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Aug 29, 2013 at 04:28 PM
WoW! More Power Sir Nicadraus.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: JoeyGS on Aug 29, 2013 at 04:31 PM
Thanks Nicadraus .... that's very kind of you, appreciate it.

BTW, excellent job on the restoration work! Keeps the 1200 alive and kicking!

Thanks mga sir! :)

I'll check if I still have screws in stock sir. PM ko kayo pag meron. :)

Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Aug 29, 2013 at 05:09 PM
Congrats Nicadraus!

I assume you're the same Nicadraus in WS! Excellent craftsmanship on your restorations!

If it is a Technics SL-1200, Nicadraus is THE MAN!

For a Lenco Turntable, Noly/TAS is THE MAN!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dollarman on Aug 29, 2013 at 05:26 PM
hahahaha. now PDVD has a resident 1200MAGICMAN  :D :D

ang danda ng sl1200 mo king dods. balato mo na sa amin kay derek hehe
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Aug 29, 2013 at 05:32 PM
ang danda ng sl1200 mo king dods. balato mo na sa amin kay derek hehe

ayaw! hahahahaha. may nakita ako sa sulit pair na 1200, 25k ang asking price 100v.  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dollarman on Aug 29, 2013 at 05:40 PM
ayaw! hahahahaha. may nakita ako sa sulit pair na 1200, 25k ang asking price 100v.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

ayaw ko nun. sympre iba pag galing sa iyo ang gears king dods. pwede ko pa gawan ng certificate of authenticity na galing sa analog king....
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 29, 2013 at 06:12 PM
Thanks mga sir! :)

I'll check if I still have screws in stock sir. PM ko kayo pag meron. :)

Thanks! :)

galing galing.......pag nagka sl1200 ako ..pa restore ko din sayo...
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: mykel18 on Sep 01, 2013 at 09:07 AM
Share ko lang. How a turntable is made.  8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXNXJD5F0r4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXNXJD5F0r4)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Tempter on Sep 02, 2013 at 11:03 AM
Mga TT gurus,

May issue ba kung let's say, MC ang gamit ko tapos sa amp ko naka MM? I mean may masisira ba? Or is it just a matter of, kung maganda ang output sa pandinig mo?

Tnx
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Sep 02, 2013 at 11:17 AM
Definitely there will be an issue unless your MC cart is high-output MC (like Dynavector 10X5)...you will need either a Step-Up Transformer, Head Amp or external phono stage w/ MM/MC input.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Sep 02, 2013 at 11:26 AM
walng ka sir maririnig na tunog o mahinang mahina if your using an mc low cart tapos mm capable lang amp mo
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Sep 02, 2013 at 11:44 AM
walng ka sir maririnig na tunog o mahinang mahina if your using an mc low cart tapos mm capable lang amp mo

Tama...I failed to include this...Thanks Dodie for adding this...
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Tempter on Sep 02, 2013 at 11:53 AM
Actually, I hear acceptable output for both. By the way, I am using a vintage amp with phono. But I hear a difference in details when I set it from one type to another.

My question is, possible bang may masira either sa TT or sa amp???

Thanks ulit. ;)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: retro12195 on Sep 02, 2013 at 11:54 AM
sir ano ba yong MC cart mo :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: migsev on Sep 02, 2013 at 01:02 PM
How hard it is to find a good condition SL1200/1210 locally?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: ndotcom on Sep 02, 2013 at 01:06 PM
Actually, I hear acceptable output for both. By the way, I am using a vintage amp with phono. But I hear a difference in details when I set it from one type to another.

My question is, possible bang may masira either sa TT or sa amp???

Thanks ulit. ;)

Ang pagkakaintindi ko ay may MM/MC phono input yung amp mo, tama ba sir? Sakin lang dapat ingat sa volume settings dapat zero out palagi before switching inputs, pag MM cart nalagay sa MC in(amp) ay malakas ang output nyan so maaring makasira ng speakers. Check mo excursions ng woofers pag nagplay ka, minsan di audible pero makita mo lakas ng vibrations ng woofer nyan.

Sa low output MC cart ala ko makita problema kahit saan mo maikabit yan, mahina o wala minsan pag sa MM input mo nalagay tapos normal ang output niya if sa MC input mo inilagay.

So the best talaga ay gamitin ang amp as per specs/design MM/high output MC sa MM input tapos low MC sa MC input.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Tempter on Sep 02, 2013 at 02:54 PM
sir ano ba yong MC cart mo :)

Eto nakakatawa, kaya ako nagtatanong kasi hindi ko talaga alam kung ano ang cart ko! I mean hindi ko sure kung MM or MC to. ;D Kaya ang ginawa ko trial and error sa phono amp.

ANo ba ang palatandaan? Luma na kasi. At newbie lang ako hehe!!!


@ndotcom

Tama kayo sir, yung amp ay may selector for MM or MC. Pero yung input rca nya, meron syang MM/MC talaga, so hindi talaga ako naglilipat ng rca cable kundi sa selector lang.

Tama din kayo regarding sa level ng output, so far wala naman ako napansin na posibleng makasira ng speaker (or baka hindi ko lang alam kung pano malaman ;D), pero bago ako magswitch from MM to MC and vice versa I make sure na mababa ang volume.

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Sep 02, 2013 at 06:32 PM
usually chief kung may mm/mc yung int amp at tumunog yung cart mo, malamang mc high or mm. i also have an int amp na may selector for mm/mc but hindi tumutunog yung glider ko sa mc output nya. yung ibang preamp variable input loading, but for most of the phono input of int amps, fixed input impedence. yung cart loading impedence is important para mamaximize mo yung cart mo. imho, cart loading has a significant effect sa sound repro.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Sep 02, 2013 at 07:00 PM
besfren nalilito din ako dyan sa mm and mc
haha... kung sl1200 ang makukuha ko....anung cart ang normaly kasama nun kung stock headshell/cart/stylus
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Sep 02, 2013 at 08:10 PM
Depende sa amp mo. Kung mm capable lang int amp mo, then use mm cart. Yung mga shure at dj cart, mm yon. Kung may selector for mc, then u can use an mc high cart. Yung gmit ko na glider at ortofon and yung kay jay na benz micro, lahat low output kya were using a phono stage for mc low, like yung ear834 at m1vinyl! Pwede ding Stepup transformer gamitin for mc cart.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Sep 02, 2013 at 08:18 PM
Depende sa amp mo. Kung mm capable lang int amp mo, then use mm cart. Yung mga shure at dj cart, mm yon. Kung may selector for mc, then u can use an mc high cart. Yung gmit ko na glider at ortofon and yung kay jay na benz micro, lahat low output kya were using a phono stage for mc low, like yung ear834 at m1vinyl! Pwede ding Stepup transformer gamitin for mc cart.
my amp has mm/mc option
what do you suggest ?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Tempter on Sep 02, 2013 at 08:20 PM
usually chief kung may mm/mc yung int amp at tumunog yung cart mo, malamang mc high or mm. i also have an int amp na may selector for mm/mc but hindi tumutunog yung glider ko sa mc output nya. yung ibang preamp variable input loading, but for most of the phono input of int amps, fixed input impedence. yung cart loading impedence is important para mamaximize mo yung cart mo. imho, cart loading has a significant effect sa sound repro.

I see, so malamang nga MM to hehe!

ANyway, i noticed mas detailed ang output pag sa MC nakalagay. Hindi kaya sira ang amp ko? ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dollarman on Sep 02, 2013 at 09:05 PM
Depende sa amp mo. Kung mm capable lang int amp mo, then use mm cart. Yung mga shure at dj cart, mm yon. Kung may selector for mc, then u can use an mc high cart. Yung gmit ko na glider at ortofon and yung kay jay na benz micro, lahat low output kya were using a phono stage for mc low, like yung ear834 at m1vinyl! Pwede ding Stepup transformer gamitin for mc cart.

Anong magandang budget friendly na mc cart king dods?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Sep 02, 2013 at 11:32 PM
Denon DL-103/R
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Tempter on Sep 03, 2013 at 03:53 PM
Follow-up question mga gurus.

How important is the GROUND for these players??? I mean is it really required for you to connect it to the Ground terminal in the amp for example??? Is there any disadvantage if you just left it dangling?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Sep 03, 2013 at 07:38 PM
may humming sound chief pag di naka ground...
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Tempter on Sep 03, 2013 at 07:42 PM
I see...thanks for the helpful details. ;)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: otepsy on Sep 09, 2013 at 07:22 PM
Hi Sir Nicadraus,

I have a Technics SL-3300 na nalubog sa baha, ask ko lang kung may pag asa pa ba or if worth it pa ba ipa-restore (baka kasi yung price ng pagpa-parestore eh pambili na ng bago or mas maganda na 2nd hand).
Thanks!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: M68 on Sep 10, 2013 at 12:20 AM
Arrgghh. Am having a hard time looking for these:

1. M447 E cart bnew
2. AT 95 E cart bnew
3. Technics headshell

I called Audiophile and Listening in style and they don't have them. Baka may kilala kayo.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Sep 10, 2013 at 12:38 AM
Arrgghh. Am having a hard time looking for these:

1. M447 E cart bnew
2. AT 95 E cart bnew
3. Technics headshell

I called Audiophile and Listening in style and they don't have them. Baka may kilala kayo.

Look for TAS sa wiredstate. Bka meron sya ng hinahanap mo bossing
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Sep 10, 2013 at 02:48 AM
Arrgghh. Am having a hard time looking for these:

1. M447 E cart bnew
2. AT 95 E cart bnew
3. Technics headshell

I called Audiophile and Listening in style and they don't have them. Baka may kilala kayo.

technics headshell meron sa MP
iceman_30 

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: JoeyGS on Sep 10, 2013 at 09:31 AM
M477 with headshell package available at Sound Dimension at Glorietta 2


Arrgghh. Am having a hard time looking for these:

1. M447 E cart bnew
2. AT 95 E cart bnew
3. Technics headshell

I called Audiophile and Listening in style and they don't have them. Baka may kilala kayo.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Sep 10, 2013 at 10:20 AM
M477 with headshell package available at Sound Dimension at Glorietta 2


how much?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: mykel18 on Sep 10, 2013 at 10:38 AM
how much?

bibili ka na tt?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Tsnad on Sep 10, 2013 at 10:46 AM
bibili ka na tt?

o nakabili na kasi naghahanap ng cart.. >:D >:D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Tempter on Sep 10, 2013 at 12:15 PM
Mga magkano ang mga cart na yan?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Sep 10, 2013 at 12:34 PM
Mga magkano ang mga cart na yan?

siguro chief mga 2k + yan.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Tempter on Sep 10, 2013 at 12:54 PM
siguro chief mga 2k + yan.

Alright, thanks sir. ;)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: M68 on Sep 10, 2013 at 04:22 PM
technics headshell meron sa MP
iceman_30 



Boss, ano yung MP?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Tsnad on Sep 10, 2013 at 04:24 PM
Boss, ano yung MP?

Market Place.... ;)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: M68 on Sep 10, 2013 at 04:29 PM
I just called Sound Dimension. Medyo mataas ang bigay. P4.8k cart lang. Pag kasama Technics headshell 6k+. Kung wala akong makitang price na malapit sa Amazon prices baka doon na lang ako kumuha.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: M68 on Sep 10, 2013 at 04:33 PM
May nagsabi rin sa akin na all headshells are the same. Is it true? I mean, an American DJ Technics copy is the same quality as an original Technics since pareho lang daw ang gumagawa.
Title: Turntable Part 2
Post by: mykel18 on Sep 10, 2013 at 04:35 PM

I just called Sound Dimension. Medyo mataas ang bigay. P4.8k cart lang. Pag kasama Technics headshell 6k+. Kung wala akong makitang price na malapit sa Amazon prices baka doon na lang ako kumuha.

Did you try asking for a discounted price? Usually SRP binibigay na prices ng mga store. Usually may discount pa yan. Don't know lang if it applies with Sound Dimension.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: M68 on Sep 10, 2013 at 04:41 PM
Did you try asking for a discounted price? Usually SRP binibigay na prices ng mga store. Usually may discount pa yan. Don't know lang if it applies with Sound Dimension.

I will go there personally sa Friday to talk to the dude. Baka nga pag tawag lang eh ganun ang price to discourage canvassers (which I am :D ).
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Sep 10, 2013 at 05:32 PM
Hi Sir Nicadraus,

I have a Technics SL-3300 na nalubog sa baha, ask ko lang kung may pag asa pa ba or if worth it pa ba ipa-restore (baka kasi yung price ng pagpa-parestore eh pambili na ng bago or mas maganda na 2nd hand).
Thanks!

Problem is, wala na new parts for other Technics models aside from SL1200/1210 only. For it to be able to get parts for that, salvaging parts from another same unit is the only way. So sayang lang gagastusin mo sir. Mas ok kung makahanap ka ng 2nd hand unit ng SL1200/1210. Then if kailangan ng restoration, let me know. :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Sep 10, 2013 at 05:33 PM
I will go there personally sa Friday to talk to the dude. Baka nga pag tawag lang eh ganun ang price to discourage canvassers (which I am :D ).

Sir try nyo sa Cardinal Audio. 3rd level in V-Mall, GH
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: otepsy on Sep 10, 2013 at 07:44 PM
Problem is, wala na new parts for other Technics models aside from SL1200/1210 only. For it to be able to get parts for that, salvaging parts from another same unit is the only way. So sayang lang gagastusin mo sir. Mas ok kung makahanap ka ng 2nd hand unit ng SL1200/1210. Then if kailangan ng restoration, let me know. :)

Thanks sir! :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: brainwashed on Sep 14, 2013 at 12:01 PM
Arrgghh. Am having a hard time looking for these:

1. M447 E cart bnew
2. AT 95 E cart bnew
3. Technics headshell


Try to contact rspeed. He is selling a brand new AT95E for P2800.
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,183494.msg1988011/boardseen.html#new (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,183494.msg1988011/boardseen.html#new)

Try also to contact edcap99 and inquire. He sold the AT95B, the black version of the AT95E, at P2800. He may still have some stocks left.
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,174019.0.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,174019.0.html)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: chicosci on Oct 08, 2013 at 10:03 PM
Hi audio guru's,

What entry level Turn table can you recommend? below 20k if there are any. :)
If I have a yamaha RX-V473 receiver. How can i connect a turntable to my receiver? From what i read I need a phono pre-amp? What decent phono pre-amp can you guys recommend and how much is it? :)

Thank you. :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Oct 08, 2013 at 10:15 PM
Hi audio guru's,

What entry level Turn table can you recommend? below 20k if there are any. :)
If I have a yamaha RX-V473 receiver. How can i connect a turntable to my receiver? From what i read I need a phono pre-amp? What decent phono pre-amp can you guys recommend and how much is it? :)

Thank you. :)

not a guru chief, but will suggest na din. get a technics 1200, its below 20th po. also if youll just use an mm cart the lehman black cube sa marketplace is vert very tempting. or you can have the nad pp3 or mf phono pre.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: chicosci on Oct 08, 2013 at 10:41 PM
not a guru chief, but will suggest na din. get a technics 1200, its below 20th po. also if youll just use an mm cart the lehman black cube sa marketplace is vert very tempting. or you can have the nad pp3 or mf phono pre.

Thanks sir for the recommendations. For the pre-amp hmmm i think medyo out of budget pa sakin yung ganyan. what do you recommend na mura lang? the cheapest value for money. :) I just want it to be able to connect to my receiver and have a decent sound at least then maybe upgrade the amp later on.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Oct 13, 2013 at 01:34 PM
Mga guru..patulong naman..i don't have any background on turntables nor am i an audiophile. But i am looking for an entry level that is dirt cheap but is of good quality. I will be buying it for my mother. Right now am eyeing for the Audio Technica AT-LP60 Fully Automatic Belt Driven Turntable. Ok ba to? And btw, wala kaming avr/speakers so for the mean time plano lang muna ikabit sa stereo speakers using aux. Thanks po.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Oct 13, 2013 at 03:54 PM
Mga guru..patulong naman..i don't have any background on turntables nor am i an audiophile. But i am looking for an entry level that is dirt cheap but is of good quality. I will be buying it for my mother. Right now am eyeing for the Audio Technica AT-LP60 Fully Automatic Belt Driven Turntable. Ok ba to? And btw, wala kaming avr/speakers so for the mean time plano lang muna ikabit sa stereo speakers using aux. Thanks po.

You can't plug the turntable into auxiliary unless you use a phono-to-line converter. Distorted and magiging tunog nyan pag sa line/aux kinabit. Must be a phono input.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Oct 13, 2013 at 06:19 PM
Sa Audio Technica AT-LP60 pwede phono/aux..that's why am eyeing on it..it has good reviews for an entry level and is dirt cheap. Since I don't have any background knowledge on turntables I asked it here since a lot of PDVD members are into turntables so it might be possible for you guys to enlighten me.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: JoeyGS on Oct 13, 2013 at 06:22 PM
The sound being picked up by the stylus(needle) is so weak that a preamp (aux or line inputs) will not be able to amplify it.  A phono preamp is needed to pre-amplify the signal/sound before it enters the preamp (aux or line inputs).  This is basic.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: JoeyGS on Oct 13, 2013 at 06:28 PM
The Audio Technica AT-LP60 has a switchable phono preamp where you connect directly to the preamp inputs or to an external phono preamp.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Oct 13, 2013 at 06:32 PM
@joeyGS

so by that, do you think it's a good entry level turntable? I am sorry but I am having a hard time understanding some of the technical terms.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: ndotcom on Oct 13, 2013 at 06:34 PM
Sa Audio Technica AT-LP60 pwede phono/aux..that's why am eyeing on it..it has good reviews for an entry level and is dirt cheap. Since I don't have any background knowledge on turntables I asked it here since a lot of PDVD members are into turntables so it might be possible for you guys to enlighten me.

Sir is this the AT table you are targeting?
http://thedigitalmediazone.com/2010/12/16/audio-technica-at-lp60-turntable-review/

Sir your target TTable has switchable preamp built in, meaning you can turn it on so direct rca/audio out to your receiver/amp is sufficient. If you decide to buy a separate phono preamp then you can turn off the built in preamp and use a separate preamp. I hope am correct on this read..
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: JoeyGS on Oct 13, 2013 at 06:35 PM
As long as you wont be so critical on the sound output, that is a good start to play records.

How much is one? Let's see its value performance.



@joeyGS

so by that, do you think it's a good entry level turntable? I am sorry but I am having a hard time understanding some of the technical terms.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Oct 13, 2013 at 06:46 PM
it's around 86 usd on amazon and i think that's dirt cheap!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: JoeyGS on Oct 13, 2013 at 06:52 PM
Yes its good for its price considering convenience, no need for a phono preamp and ready to play records with your existing system. Its also good to test the waters if vinyl is for you.

it's around 86 usd on amazon and i think that's dirt cheap!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Oct 13, 2013 at 07:01 PM
Actually I was skeptical at first but having no experience on TTs so I think this is a good start (baseline). And I will be giving it to my mother so that she can play her collections. She's just an average jane and no audiophile (that goes same for me) that's why I am considering this.

By the way, can you guys suggest local stores that sell TTs (from entry to hi end). Thank you!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: remington on Oct 16, 2013 at 09:31 AM
chanced upon a dirt cheap victor JL-A15 last night. Any idea on where can I buy a belt for this? no sample because the old belt already perished (nalusaw na) ^-^ TIA
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: mykel18 on Oct 17, 2013 at 10:29 AM
Actually I was skeptical at first but having no experience on TTs so I think this is a good start (baseline). And I will be giving it to my mother so that she can play her collections. She's just an average jane and no audiophile (that goes same for me) that's why I am considering this.

By the way, can you guys suggest local stores that sell TTs (from entry to hi end). Thank you!

Do check Rega (Watt HiFI) and Pro-Ject (Acoustic Dimension).
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: remington on Oct 19, 2013 at 08:07 PM
question lang po mga kapatid, how do I reduce the speed of victor JL-A15? Wala pong speed adjustment ang motor e :'(. TIA po sa mga mag rereply! ^-^
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Oct 21, 2013 at 09:29 PM
Wow!  Buhay pa pala itong thread na ito. :)  I'm just wondering what happened to the "Part 1" of this thread we started more than 10 years ago when there were just a handful of analogistas. O0
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: remington on Oct 22, 2013 at 08:39 AM
done experimening and its now running in normal speed salamat po sa mga nag PM ng solution it really solved the problem! ^-^ ^-^ ^-^
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dekta on Nov 11, 2013 at 09:31 AM
good day TT community,

please help a newbie.

im really not sure how to fix my problem. from the photo below, do i need to replace the the whole
cartridge eventhough its only the stylus that is being damaged? this will be used with SL12MK2. I want to minimize the cost as much as possible but i want it in good running condition before i let it go. moreover, please refer a shop where i can buy affordable stylus/cartridge at the same time test it with the said turntable to make sure everything is running.

TIA gurus

(http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/10789007484/)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/10789007484/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/10789007484/)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: audiojunkie on Nov 11, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Your cart looks very nice. Ask google for the replacement stylus type and possible source. Not familiar with local vendor but try to look around. Who knows other members might have something to offer much better. HTH.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: remington on Nov 13, 2013 at 03:39 PM
try deeco in farmers cubao and raon or armstrong also in raon bring your cartridge for comparison.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dekta on Nov 15, 2013 at 10:26 AM
much thanks Audiojunkie and Remington.

i guess i have to let it go as it is hehehe. I sent this equipment thru seafreight and im currently abroad. i was hoping theres a local shop where my dad can buy a stylus/cartridge, attach and test it along with the turntable. If he likes it he can keep, otherwise ill post it in the market place.
 

Your cart looks very nice. Ask google for the replacement stylus type and possible source. Not familiar with local vendor but try to look around. Who knows other members might have something to offer much better. HTH.

try deeco in farmers cubao and raon or armstrong also in raon bring your cartridge for comparison.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Carlo on Nov 26, 2013 at 02:31 PM
Mga sirs patulong naman, got a used Rega RP3 with an Ortofon Red cartridge, after setting it up (got a Cambridge MM Pre amp), tried to play an old LP, distorted yung sound. So i got a new LP baka kasi worned out na yung old LP. Distorted pa din yung sound. Tried fiddling with the adjustments with no success. :(. Ano kaya ang culprit? Thanks!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Nov 26, 2013 at 02:42 PM
Try to use another phono stage...check your cables too...isolate each part of the chain...
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Carlo on Nov 26, 2013 at 02:49 PM
Thanks Superman, try ko makahiram ng ibang phonostage.  :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: ESi on Nov 26, 2013 at 03:34 PM
My best bet would be a worn out cartridge! :-X Try replacing it or cleaning it with mr. clean magic eraser.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Carlo on Nov 26, 2013 at 03:48 PM
Esi, check ko din cartridge, mahal pa naman yan. :(
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Jagner on Nov 26, 2013 at 03:54 PM
check mo muna kung tama alignment nung cartridge, then next yung VTF.  Check mo narin kung tama anti skate.




Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Carlo on Nov 26, 2013 at 04:08 PM
Newbie pa sir Jagner, check ko manuals and google ko yung mga parameters na yan. I went only as far as changing the balance of the tonearm with the counterweight and the value of the tracking force.. Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Nov 26, 2013 at 04:18 PM
check mo muna kung tama alignment nung cartridge, then next yung VTF.  Check mo narin kung tama anti skate.






Agree with jagner
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Carlo on Nov 27, 2013 at 12:16 PM
Thanks for the tips guys! It didn't get any better with the adjustments and the phonostage is OK. Will bring it to TAS tomorrow morning for a check up.  :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Carlo on Dec 12, 2013 at 12:40 PM
Its was a broken stylus, buti na lang may stock ang TAS. Thanks!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Jan 16, 2014 at 09:40 AM
I just want to share the pair of custom Technics SL1200 MK2PLT (platinum edition) is recently finished for Suigeneris' Frankie Cortez.

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/6643483_orig.jpg)

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/3884902_orig.jpg)

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/784544_orig.jpg)

More of it here:

http://works1200.weebly.com/frankies-platinum-1200.html

:)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Jan 21, 2014 at 02:57 PM
Here's a 30year old deck that was brought to me from Baguio City by owner Ed Nevada. He wanted to have it restored and customized. He said this deck has been with him and his late brother Arwin since the early 80s.

Like my usual works, the main diecast frame had been scraped to bare metal. Primed and painted to a shade of blue metallic that I personally mixed, then topped it with super gloss clear coat using polyurethane automotive paints. The tonearm section had also been painted to match the main body. This deck didn't come with a platter so I provided one. I also replaced the broken pitch control, tonearm clip/rest, one leg, switch knob, and aluminum pitch decal ornament. All lights have been replaced as well. Super bright white LEDs on the 33/45, pop-up lamp, and pitch indicator, while the storbe had been fitted with bright blue LEDs, RCA cables and connectors have also been replaced with heavy duty, high grade set. Tonearm and pitch control have been calibrated as well as the motor brake. Lastly, rubber base was lightly sanded and repainted to matte black.

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/5428992_orig.jpg)

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/8846525_orig.jpg)

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/3414938_orig.jpg)

More of it here:

http://works1200.weebly.com/eds-blue.html (http://works1200.weebly.com/eds-blue.html)

:)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Jan 21, 2014 at 03:58 PM
Very nice! Congratulations!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Jan 22, 2014 at 07:59 AM
Very nice! Congratulations!

Thanks!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Lanozoman on Jan 22, 2014 at 10:39 PM
Anyone here know about Grundig turntable? it`s  german made.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: markymark8386 on Jan 22, 2014 at 10:55 PM
Grabe ang ganda! I wonder how much would it take to replace the springs on my sl1301? PM me sir. :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Jan 29, 2014 at 03:23 PM
Under platter halo/illumination for Technics SL1200-1210. Coming soon - works1200.weebly.com (http://works1200.weebly.com)

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/9365959_orig.jpg)

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/4243175_orig.jpg)

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/7014841_orig.jpg)

:)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: vhinx on Jan 29, 2014 at 04:27 PM
Mga master, merun lang po ako tanung... Merun ako Pioneer TT at kapapalit lang ng stylus pero bakit kaya ang hina ng tunog nya sa vintage amp ko, 12oclock na pero mahina pa din. Nag continuity check using digital VOM from four wires at cartridge down to rca cable at ok naman lahat ng reading ko. Nag try ako with 3-different vintage ampli with phono input pero mahina talaga sounds output.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: mykel18 on Jan 29, 2014 at 05:43 PM
Mga master, merun lang po ako tanung... Merun ako Pioneer TT at kapapalit lang ng stylus pero bakit kaya ang hina ng tunog nya sa vintage amp ko, 12oclock na pero mahina pa din. Nag continuity check using digital VOM from four wires at cartridge down to rca cable at ok naman lahat ng reading ko. Nag try ako with 3-different vintage ampli with phono input pero mahina talaga sounds output.

Baka MC cart low output. Anong cart ba yan?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: vhinx on Jan 30, 2014 at 10:15 PM
Baka MC cart low output. Anong cart ba yan?

Update... In the first place yun na din naiisip ko but before buying whole set with branded one, I tried to diagnose again step by step and Whewwww found the root caused, the new stylus was not properly inserted at cartridge. Now my Pio TT sing very well and loud at 10o'clock volume... :D

Thank you Bro mykel and other member who sent PM'd for some troubleshooting and assisstance... ;) :-*
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: mightbeyou on Jan 31, 2014 at 07:44 AM
Here's a 30year old deck that was brought to me from Baguio City by owner Ed Nevada. He wanted to have it restored and customized. He said this deck has been with him and his late brother Arwin since the early 80s.

Like my usual works, the main diecast frame had been scraped to bare metal. Primed and painted to a shade of blue metallic that I personally mixed, then topped it with super gloss clear coat using polyurethane automotive paints. The tonearm section had also been painted to match the main body. This deck didn't come with a platter so I provided one. I also replaced the broken pitch control, tonearm clip/rest, one leg, switch knob, and aluminum pitch decal ornament. All lights have been replaced as well. Super bright white LEDs on the 33/45, pop-up lamp, and pitch indicator, while the storbe had been fitted with bright blue LEDs, RCA cables and connectors have also been replaced with heavy duty, high grade set. Tonearm and pitch control have been calibrated as well as the motor brake. Lastly, rubber base was lightly sanded and repainted to matte black.

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/5428992_orig.jpg)

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/8846525_orig.jpg)

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/3414938_orig.jpg)

More of it here:

http://works1200.weebly.com/eds-blue.html (http://works1200.weebly.com/eds-blue.html)

:)

sir, could you pm me how much it would cost to restore a technics sl-dl1 and is it worth restoring...on a side note, it was actually working properly before it was accidentally plugged to a 220 outlet before changing the voltage selector switch to 220...thanks...
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: fishda on Mar 02, 2014 at 03:57 PM
i am planning to buy a tt.any suggestions on a budget tt?do i need to get a pre amp with phono inputs or can i use the normal rca input of my tube pre amp?i have 2 pre amps at home with phono inputs.how would i know if they're still working?

i have a fisher tt at home too but the "stick" that holds the needle got cut/broken.is it better to have it fixed or just get a new one?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Mar 02, 2014 at 05:27 PM
i am planning to buy a tt.any suggestions on a budget tt?do i need to get a pre amp with phono inputs or can i use the normal rca input of my tube pre amp?i have 2 pre amps at home with phono inputs.how would i know if they're still working?

i have a fisher tt at home too but the "stick" that holds the needle got cut/broken.is it better to have it fixed or just get a new one?

bili ka na lang sir ng tt. tapos phono stage na lang kung hindi mo naman kailangan yung ibang inputs. my 1200 na for sale sa mp, o kya daan ka kay rene/hyper, dami tt stock ngayon dun. gudluck bossing:)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: jdm on Apr 12, 2014 at 06:16 AM
i am planning to buy a tt.any suggestions on a budget tt?do i need to get a pre amp with phono inputs or can i use the normal rca input of my tube pre amp?i have 2 pre amps at home with phono inputs.how would i know if they're still working?

i have a fisher tt at home too but the "stick" that holds the needle got cut/broken.is it better to have it fixed or just get a new one?

Bro may mabibili na magandang audio equipment galing ng japan mura at maganda pa.
Title: Re: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: tonedeaf on Apr 12, 2014 at 07:01 AM
bili ka na lang sir ng tt. tapos phono stage na lang kung hindi mo naman kailangan yung ibang inputs. my 1200 na for sale sa mp, o kya daan ka kay rene/hyper, dami tt stock ngayon dun. gudluck bossing:)

I keep reading about the technics 1200 in this thread. Is it really such an upgrade over entry level turntables like the Rega RP1? Or is it at par or better?

Or is the appeal more because it's a classic model and not really as to sound quality?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Apr 12, 2014 at 12:00 PM
I keep reading about the technics 1200 in this thread. Is it really such an upgrade over entry level turntables like the Rega RP1? Or is it at par or better?

Or is the appeal more because it's a classic model and not really as to sound quality?

not really an upgrade po, for me mas madali gamitin yung mga direct drive kesa sa belt drive. yung rp1 kse lyt platter na tapos ang resale value is not as good as 1200. given the price to performace ratio and ease of use and resale.....ill go with the technics. but if your serious about your analog rig...hindi po gnitong mga tts ang klangan ninyo.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: tonedeaf on Apr 12, 2014 at 04:27 PM
not really an upgrade po, for me mas madali gamitin yung mga direct drive kesa sa belt drive. yung rp1 kse lyt platter na tapos ang resale value is not as good as 1200. given the price to performace ratio and ease of use and resale.....ill go with the technics. but if your serious about your analog rig...hindi po gnitong mga tts ang klangan ninyo.

thanks for the clarification.

Di pa yata "serious" :) It's something I've been meaning to buy the past few years, just to try it, but I've never gotten  around to doing so. So I just want to see if vinyl is for me, or if pang CD/digital talaga ako :)

I'll think it over first, if i should just buy an entry level Pro-Ject or Rega, or scour the MP for the 1200 or other cheaper turntables, since my object is just to try this out. (though this is going to be a bit of an expensive try out, since I'll have to get at the very least, a phono stage, and likely, a stereo amp hahaha).


Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Tsnad on Apr 12, 2014 at 04:45 PM
thanks for the clarification.

Di pa yata "serious" :) It's something I've been meaning to buy the past few years, just to try it, but I've never gotten  around to doing so. So I just want to see if vinyl is for me, or if pang CD/digital talaga ako :)

I'll think it over first, if i should just buy an entry level Pro-Ject or Rega, or scour the MP for the 1200 or other cheaper turntables, since my object is just to try this out. (though this is going to be a bit of an expensive try out, since I'll have to get at the very least, a phono stage, and likely, a stereo amp hahaha).




sir ito po magandang TT's... >:D ^-^
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,190324.0.html
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: stockHT on Apr 14, 2014 at 02:52 PM
mga sir
may nakapag try na ba na bumili dito sa sulit seller na to:

http://www.olx.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/37411371/Cartridge+and+Stylus?referralKeywords=headshell&event=Search+Ranking,Position,1-18,18#advertisementDetails

ang mura kasi ng m44-7-h combo nya 3800 lang. papa legit check sana ako sa inyo mga sir
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Apr 14, 2014 at 10:29 PM
mga sir
may nakapag try na ba na bumili dito sa sulit seller na to:

http://www.olx.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/37411371/Cartridge+and+Stylus?referralKeywords=headshell&event=Search+Ranking,Position,1-18,18#advertisementDetails

ang mura kasi ng m44-7-h combo nya 3800 lang. papa legit check sana ako sa inyo mga sir

Yes legit yan sir. Megamixx is Kenneth Tanso of Megamixx record bar in Megamall and Queue Music shop in GH way back in the 90s.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: poopaw on Apr 15, 2014 at 10:16 PM
Hello, newbie here. I'm looking for a vinyl record player. Preferable around 2k more or less? Would any of you know a place that sells? I know someone who managed to snag a 2nd hand vinyl record player from Japan at around 2.5k and she only had to replace the needle and buy an amp.

 I don't have any experience with this and I'd really appreciate the help of experts such as you guys. Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: brainwashed on Apr 15, 2014 at 11:15 PM
mga sir
may nakapag try na ba na bumili dito sa sulit seller na to:

http://www.olx.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/37411371/Cartridge+and+Stylus?referralKeywords=headshell&event=Search+Ranking,Position,1-18,18#advertisementDetails

ang mura kasi ng m44-7-h combo nya 3800 lang. papa legit check sana ako sa inyo mga sir

iirc p3800 was the price of the m447h sa Audiophile around 2-3 years ago
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Apr 16, 2014 at 01:23 PM
thanks for the clarification.

Di pa yata "serious" :) It's something I've been meaning to buy the past few years, just to try it, but I've never gotten  around to doing so. So I just want to see if vinyl is for me, or if pang CD/digital talaga ako :)

I'll think it over first, if i should just buy an entry level Pro-Ject or Rega, or scour the MP for the 1200 or other cheaper turntables, since my object is just to try this out. (though this is going to be a bit of an expensive try out, since I'll have to get at the very least, a phono stage, and likely, a stereo amp hahaha).


just in case mam, you are going to dip into it for sure.....use an mc cart, it myt be 3x pricier than a reg mm cart but the difference is justified. given a stereo int amp, mm/mc phono stage, and a decent TT with an mc cart....it will slam your current audio/video receiver & cdp combo to the ground. not kidding:)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Tsnad on Apr 16, 2014 at 01:39 PM
just in case mam, you are going to dip into it for sure.....use an mc cart, it myt be 3x pricier than a reg mm cart but the difference is justified. given a stereo int amp, mm/mc phono stage, and a decent TT with an mc cart....it will slam your current audio/video receiver & cdp combo to the ground. not kidding:)

chief magkano naman MC na maganda at ano brand... ^-^
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Apr 16, 2014 at 01:45 PM
chief magkano naman MC na maganda at ano brand... ^-^

manong daming choices....benz micro gold, ortofon salsa, denon dl103r. :):) 15k below ang pricing nyan. ako Ang daily use ko are ortofon mc10 super ska ortofon salsa. yung shelter 201 mm ko, tinabi ko muna.
kay noli/TAS, daming choice ng mc cart. call lang kay boss noli pag inquire. bait yun.:)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Tsnad on Apr 16, 2014 at 01:47 PM
mahal pala... ala ba mura lang... ^-^
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Apr 16, 2014 at 01:57 PM
mahal pala... ala ba mura lang... ^-^

m447g:)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Tsnad on Apr 16, 2014 at 01:59 PM
m447g:)

ipon mode muna... dl103 ok ba yun... >:D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Apr 16, 2014 at 02:00 PM
ipon mode muna... dl103 ok ba yun... >:D
ok boss. si doc endrick naka dl103 pero tweaked by david wok.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: mykel18 on Apr 16, 2014 at 02:47 PM
Go na sa MC cart. Worth it if you're into analog.  ;D >:D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: meat_eater on Apr 16, 2014 at 02:51 PM
For a begginers turntable, mas ok ba Rp1 + Cambridge Phono pre, then eventualy upgrade to elys 2 cart..

Or deretso na sa Rp3 + Cambridge Phono pre.


Contemplating on turning to the dark side, cd generation na kasi ako, I wanna try lang pure analog :)

Thanks
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: mykel18 on Apr 16, 2014 at 03:26 PM
For a begginers turntable, mas ok ba Rp1 + Cambridge Phono pre, then eventualy upgrade to elys 2 cart..

Or deretso na sa Rp3 + Cambridge Phono pre.


Contemplating on turning to the dark side, cd generation na kasi ako, I wanna try lang pure analog :)

Thanks

If you're really serious into analog, then RP3. If trying pa lang, RP1 is a good choice. Do you have the Cambridge phono pre already?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Pandidoy on Apr 16, 2014 at 03:31 PM
manong daming choices....benz micro gold, ortofon salsa, denon dl103r. :):) 15k below ang pricing nyan. ako Ang daily use ko are ortofon mc10 super ska ortofon salsa. yung shelter 201 mm ko, tinabi ko muna.
kay noli/TAS, daming choice ng mc cart. call lang kay boss noli pag inquire. bait yun.:)

Nangungulam si Bos Dodie  >:D Ako MC din ( Murang Cartridge)  O0
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Apr 16, 2014 at 03:40 PM
You'll never go wrong with a Denon DL-103 or 103R...
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: meat_eater on Apr 16, 2014 at 04:35 PM
If you're really serious into analog, then RP3. If trying pa lang, RP1 is a good choice. Do you have the Cambridge phono pre already?

No sir, pero yung ganung price range lang, I think 6500 ata yun, Rega I think ganun din, but TROD's suggestion was the cambridge.

Plaka newbie here :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: tonedeaf on Apr 16, 2014 at 07:08 PM
^looking into going that route din :)! Repa RP1 or RP3 + Rega phono amp. Then if I find that I like vinyl, buy a stereo amp + amp switcher (kasi wala akong planong bumili ng speakers just for audio).

Questions though:

1. Don't the turntables already come with a cart - whether MM or MC? So bale, I immediately replace whatever comes with the turntable?
2. Also, may violent objections ba kayo sa automatic turntables? I was reading up in some websites and noted that some folks prefer manual and couldn't hide their disdain for automatic variants. Hahaha.
3. Between a Technics 1200 or the Rega RP1 or entry level Pro Ject, mas maganda ba yung 1200? Di kasi ako masyadong mahilig sa mukhang luma or sa talagang luma. Mas gusto ko modern/minimalist look. Just a preference :)


Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: retro12195 on Apr 16, 2014 at 07:16 PM
mam eto best buy  :)  http://www.wiredstate.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=24945
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Apr 17, 2014 at 01:25 AM
^looking into going that route din :)! Repa RP1 or RP3 + Rega phono amp. Then if I find that I like vinyl, buy a stereo amp + amp switcher (kasi wala akong planong bumili ng speakers just for audio).

Questions though:

1. Don't the turntables already come with a cart - whether MM or MC? So bale, I immediately replace whatever comes with the turntable?
2. Also, may violent objections ba kayo sa automatic turntables? I was reading up in some websites and noted that some folks prefer manual and couldn't hide their disdain for automatic variants. Hahaha.
3. Between a Technics 1200 or the Rega RP1 or entry level Pro Ject, mas maganda ba yung 1200? Di kasi ako masyadong mahilig sa mukhang luma or sa talagang luma. Mas gusto ko modern/minimalist look. Just a preference :)


1.kalimitan po walang kasamang cart yung mga bnew TT.  btw there are 2 types of mc cart, the HOMC and LOMC. yung high output walang problema sa phono stage kse the loading can be the same of an MM cart na 47ohm, but generally if youll be getting a decent mm/mc phono stage, may cart loading na yun for low output. just a flick of a switch and its good to go.

2. automatic TT are good, wala lang upgrade path. opinyon lang po. :D ska complicated yung operation ng tonearm. may tendency na pangalingan ng vibration.
3. kung rp1 lang at project mam, 1200 na ako. lyt platter kse yung project at pr1. but if itis rp3....ill get the rp3. the thing that i like with direct drive tt like the 1200, eh reduce ang wow and flutter unlike sa mga belt drive tt.

pero ako po ang preference ko ay dampened idler drive TT on a heavy DIY plinth with proper isolation to reduce yung rumble...... :)
Title: Turntable Part 2
Post by: mykel18 on Apr 17, 2014 at 06:34 AM
Boss dodie, ano ang wow at flutter?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: redstarrising on Apr 17, 2014 at 07:29 AM
Boss dodie, ano ang wow at flutter?

Brader mykel yun sa iyo (TT) sobra na yun wow!!! ;D ;D. Belt type yun sa iyo  di ba? :D :D
Ibig sabihin yun ibang direct drive kasi nasa center yun motor once yun cartridge lumalapit na sa center motor o kaya yun track song ng groove eh papalapit na sa dulo nag aaway na yun magnet ng turntable motor at yun moving magnet/coil ng cartridge kaya less na yun wow :D :D.

Sabi ni AJ Van Den Hul mas maganda daw yun silk string as a replacement of rubber belt  :D ;)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Apr 17, 2014 at 09:53 AM
Boss dodie, ano ang wow at flutter?
yung tamang speed ng tt ba. parang pitch perfect. ang problema naman pag direct drive gamit mo eh yung rumble naman, sabi nga boss jun, nagrarambolan pag lapit na matapos yung plaka. sa kso ng mahal na belt drive, eh walang kaguluhan kse nakalayo yung motor unit. me konting pangamot dito pag lumang amp ang gmit kse may low and high pass filter yon. sinubukan ko di ko narinig na nagbago. bka sira na yung switch nung sken kya walang nagbago ;D ;D ;D.ska rule of thumb daw, pag bigat ng platter pag gling ng TT.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Apr 17, 2014 at 10:03 AM
Emperor Dodie really is the King of Analog!

Agree w/ Dodie re: Wow and Flutter...so best bet is Idler TTs...The TT being sold by muypogi (Pioneer) is already a good one! Pair it w/ a Denon DL-103 that's a sub-P25,000 system...Cheaper than an RP-3
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Apr 17, 2014 at 10:30 AM
Emperor Dodie really is the King of Analog!

Agree w/ Dodie re: Wow and Flutter...so best bet is Idler TTs...The TT being sold by muypogi (Pioneer) is already a good one! Pair it w/ a Denon DL-103 that's a sub-P25,000 system...Cheaper than an RP-3

pa king king ka pa jan boss jen, eh google lang yan. ;D ;D ;D ;D hindi nga inexplain sken ni boss noli yan nung una eh.....bsta sbi nya get a lenco and youll have no problem ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D tama ba boss jun ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Apr 17, 2014 at 10:38 AM
pa king king ka pa jan boss jen, eh google lang yan. ;D ;D ;D ;D hindi nga inexplain sken ni boss noli yan nung una eh.....bsta sbi nya get a lenco and youll have no problem ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D tama ba boss jun ;D ;D ;D ;D

Hahaha! :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: redstarrising on Apr 17, 2014 at 08:16 PM
...bsta sbi nya get a lenco and youll have no problem ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D tama ba boss jun ;D ;D ;D ;D

tama boss dodie  ;D ;D,

ako rin nag start muna sa mm cart para maranasan yun musical sound then noon nagka budget jump na sa mc cart low output  >:D >:D. One of the FAQ :  Is there a difference in sound between low output and high output mc cart? In principle no but in all day life yes  :) ;) ;) 
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: tonedeaf on Apr 18, 2014 at 08:07 PM
yung mga phono inputs pala sa mga receivers, saka phono preamps, minsan MM lang? (for example, Marantz PM 6005, Rega Brio R, Rega Fono). What if you want to use MC? Do you buy a phono preamp which is both MM and MC?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Apr 18, 2014 at 08:14 PM
yung mga phono inputs pala sa mga receivers, saka phono preamps, minsan MM lang? (for example, Marantz PM 6005, Rega Brio R, Rega Fono). What if you want to use MC? Do you buy a phono preamp which is both MM and MC?

Depends on your need. Some people just have amps w/ MM phono input and then they use SUT (step up transformer) for MC.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: yakisoba on May 10, 2014 at 01:10 AM
anyone here knows who sell the REGA RP-1? thanks
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: mbtorn on May 10, 2014 at 01:14 AM
Bro. Alfie has a Rega RP1 in the marketplace:


http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,190622.0.html
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: potek on Jun 02, 2014 at 09:02 AM
Thanks mga sir! :)
  Sir Nicadraus, Im looking for TT Technic part.  IC Model : AN630U. SMS me if meron ka, thanks 09178651262
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: absinth3 on Jun 17, 2014 at 09:56 PM
what is a good replacement stylus for Sansui SR 929?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: newbieforever on Jul 08, 2014 at 05:13 PM
sorry if this was answered already...

any places outside of raon where i can find turntable belts? need a tonearm belt for my Pioneer PL L1000.  details are as follows:

Square Belt, 3.7 inches
also used for Sansui P-L40/50/75 and Sony PS-Q3

thanks in advance!

** edit: what does the size refer to? circumference or radius? also, are there alternatives to these belts? would o-rings or thick rubber bands work?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Tango on Jul 28, 2014 at 03:31 PM
Hi everyone,

   Bago lang din ako mga ser sa TT, initially nag-down payment na ako for Rega RP1, then ang dami akong nabasa online about some issues for the entry level.  So in short, I decided to upgrade it sa Rega RP3, pero almost doble yung price tapos bibili pa ako ng cart, recommend nila is pwede na raw yung Elyss.  My setup kasi is either yung RP1 o yung RP3 then pre amp is Cambridge Audio 551 then hook it up sa lumang Yamaha RX-V 430 with mission speaker.....

   Ang tanong ko lang, tama ba yung desisyon ko na mag-upgrade kaagad? Any suggestions with the expert what is the right thing to do, as i have said newbie lang ako sa TT, just reviving and cleaning some of my brother in laws old vinyls with Revirginizer as well........ getting confused now. :)

  Thanks in advance sa mga mag-reply. ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: onedown on Jul 28, 2014 at 04:05 PM
what issues? reliability? or those reviewers just don't like how their system sounded?

what are you looking for in your system? i suggest that you give your system a try first. there are many tweaks that won't cost anything. try adjusting the speaker's position. you might also want to fine tune the set up of the table.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Carlo on Jul 28, 2014 at 04:21 PM
How much are you paying for the RP3, for about Php 34,500, its supposed to come factory fitted with the Elys 2 cart already.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Jul 28, 2014 at 04:26 PM
Hi everyone,

   Bago lang din ako mga ser sa TT, initially nag-down payment na ako for Rega RP1, then ang dami akong nabasa online about some issues for the entry level.  So in short, I decided to upgrade it sa Rega RP3, pero almost doble yung price tapos bibili pa ako ng cart, recommend nila is pwede na raw yung Elyss.  My setup kasi is either yung RP1 o yung RP3 then pre amp is Cambridge Audio 551 then hook it up sa lumang Yamaha RX-V 430 with mission speaker.....

   Ang tanong ko lang, tama ba yung desisyon ko na mag-upgrade kaagad? Any suggestions with the expert what is the right thing to do, as i have said newbie lang ako sa TT, just reviving and cleaning some of my brother in laws old vinyls with Revirginizer as well........ getting confused now. :)

  Thanks in advance sa mga mag-reply. ;D

its nice that you skip it. seems that youll be serious about your analog rig. ang masasabi ko lang.....
ang mga matatapang ang loob naka analog!!!!(matapang gumastos) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Tango on Jul 28, 2014 at 04:58 PM
How much are you paying for the RP3, for about Php 34,500, its supposed to come factory fitted with the Elys 2 cart already.

Sir Carlo,

      Nakalimutan ko palang sabihin, nasa overseas ako, wala ako sa Pinas...actually that price wala pang kasamang cartridge.  Ayoko lang kasing gumastos  later on kapag gusto kung mag-upgrade, and I think that yung RP3 is safe for upgrade on the long run, correct me if I am wrong.



its nice that you skip it. seems that youll be serious about your analog rig. ang masasabi ko lang.....
ang mga matatapang ang loob naka analog!!!!(matapang gumastos) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Sir dodie,
 
     Sana nga maging ok na ito, advantage lang kasi dito, may tinatawag silang layby, hulog ka lang hanggang matapos mo yung bayad then uwi na yung unit.  Actually kapag na-addict ako.looking to get the 356BEE para todong analog or later on down the track get the 1020 DAC para maconnect ko yung DVD or BDP player kasi puro optical and coaxial ang mga connections, ok ba yung ganun or just stick with vinyl?.......btw sir dodie mag-kano ang vinyl dyan sa atin? and saan makakabili?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Jul 28, 2014 at 05:27 PM
boss san ka naka base?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Tango on Jul 28, 2014 at 05:49 PM
boss san ka naka base?

Sir dodie,
     Nasa australia ako kaya medyo mas mahal yung mga gear dito, ano nga pala magandang vinyl album na pwede kong mabili para mag-enjoy na mabuti?  Nakakatawa naman yung comment mo na "matatapang gumastos" dito basta may trabaho ka, kaya mong bilhin ang gusto mo.  Kaya kahit papaano justified yung hilig mo para gumastos....... he he he.. ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Jul 29, 2014 at 12:14 AM
australia ka pala bossing. medyo may kamahalan nga dyan. yung mga mainstream pop o AOR pwede na yun bsta malinis. bka may makita ka boss na southern sons lp ha.. :) :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Tango on Jul 29, 2014 at 04:20 AM
sir dodie,

     Anong ibig mong sabihin sa AOR? pasensya na newbie eh.....sige tignan ko yung southern sons.....research...research muna.  Kasi yung iniwan ng brother in law ko kasi mga luma na katulad ng pink floyd, badlands, electric light orchestra, billy joel, greg howe....etc.  lilinisin ko pa sila nung revirginizer, para siyang gel tapos antayin mong matuyo overnight tapos babalatan mo siya afterwards.  Pero alam mo na siguro yun kung ano ibig kong sabihin....expert ka na eh....heh he he...mamya ulet sir. pasok pa ako......laters!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: remington on Aug 16, 2014 at 02:43 PM
narra plinth finished with polyurethane pampa pogi ;)

(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b622/remington0624/newest%20set%20up/SAM_0242_zps5d03d04f.jpg) (http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/remington0624/media/newest%20set%20up/SAM_0242_zps5d03d04f.jpg.html)
(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b622/remington0624/newest%20set%20up/SAM_0239_zpsd328a601.jpg) (http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/remington0624/media/newest%20set%20up/SAM_0239_zpsd328a601.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: audiojunkie on Aug 16, 2014 at 04:23 PM
Nice...!   8)

Great idea...   ^-^
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: -mhan- on Aug 24, 2014 at 07:42 PM
sa wakas nakatsamba din ako ng turn table, nakuha ko sa ex saudi ofw 28 years natulog ang TT pero binahayan ng anu sa loob di ko alam tawag dun parang lupa yun na brown.

ang catch dun nilasing ko yung matanda at nagdagdag ako ng 500 pesos ^-^ hehehe

btw, kenwood direct drive 4100 as in complete pa.pati cover ok pa.problema lang kung magkanu paayos nito at saan ::)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: jerrylodi on Nov 06, 2014 at 09:38 AM
sweet repeat ;)
www.whathifi.com/awards/2013/turntables
www.whathifi.com/awards/2014/turntables

(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j450/jerryidol/DSC07317_zps18c42c76.jpg)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: tonedeaf on Nov 29, 2014 at 09:00 AM
most of the stores I'm familiar with sell only Rega turntables. Can anyone please post the names of other stores which sell other brands?
Title: Turntable Part 2
Post by: mykel18 on Nov 29, 2014 at 09:46 AM
Project & Kuzma @ Acoustic Dimension Powerplant
AVID, Kronos @ AVDI Shang
McIntosh & Clearaudio @ Listening in Style
VPI & Clearaudio @ George Mabasa
Linn @ Toyama QC
Roksan @ Audioworld Banawe
Acoustic Signature @ Grey Market
Lenco @ The Analog Source
TW Acustic @ Architectural Audio Greenbelt 5
Unison Research @ 1 High Fi Street BGC
Hanss Acoustics & Vyger @ Audio Amplified Libis
TechDAS & Townshend Audio @ PureSound
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: tonedeaf on Nov 29, 2014 at 10:10 AM
@mykel18, thanks!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: AudioAmplified on Nov 29, 2014 at 09:22 PM
Project & Kuzma @ Acoustic Dimension Powerplant
AVID, Kronos @ AVDI Shang
McIntosh & Clearaudio @ Listening in Style
VPI & Clearaudio @ George Mabasa
Linn @ Toyama QC
Roksan @ Audioworld Banawe
Acoustic Signature @ Grey Market
Lenco @ The Analog Source
TW Acustic @ Architectural Audio Greenbelt 5
Unison Research @ 1 High Fi Street BGC
Hanss Acoustics and Vyger @ Audio Amplified Libis
TechDAS & Townshend Audio @ PureSound

we still carry Vyger turntables.  We also carry Miyajima and Nagaoka carts  :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: bolahan on Nov 30, 2014 at 07:25 AM
 ano po ang mga brand and model na tt na nasa 25-35t price range na maganda. Thanks
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: tonedeaf on Dec 27, 2014 at 05:07 PM
@bolahan, the only model I'm familiar with which is within your price range is the Rega RP3.

@all,

what can you say about clearaudio turntables? which ones are their entry-level models - is it the concept and the emotion? What would you say about these models vis a vis the RP3? or mas ka level ba nito ang RP6?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: muypogi on Jan 01, 2015 at 06:11 PM
@bolahan, the only model I'm familiar with which is within your price range is the Rega RP3.

@all,

what can you say about clearaudio turntables? which ones are their entry-level models - is it the concept and the emotion? What would you say about these models vis a vis the RP3? or mas ka level ba nito ang RP6?

Kung clearauduo, you start to compare vs RP6. Pero RP3 should be good enough for most purposes. The price diff vs RP6 can be spent on a good phono amp and/or a cartridge upgrade.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: tonedeaf on Jan 03, 2015 at 09:03 PM
Kung clearauduo, you start to compare vs RP6. Pero RP3 should be good enough for most purposes. The price diff vs RP6 can be spent on a good phono amp and/or a cartridge upgrade.
Thank you for this. After consulting with others who share your view, I'm back to rp3. Just trying to figure out if I can incorporate turntable in my current HT placement, or if I need a separate stand to put the turntable. More expense Hahaha!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Narayan on Jan 03, 2015 at 09:47 PM
Thank you for this. After consulting with others who share your view, I'm back to rp3. Just trying to figure out if I can incorporate turntable in my current HT placement, or if I need a separate stand to put the turntable. More expense Hahaha!

Part of the journey to the dark side. Enjoy the journey ;D >:D ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: tonedeaf on Jan 11, 2015 at 09:32 PM
Part of the journey to the dark side. Enjoy the journey ;D >:D ;D
Thank you, I think. Hahaha!

Looks like I'll be going this route para di masyado masakit sa bulsa -

First stage -  RP3 and basic or free carbon cartridge + entry level mm/mc capable phono cartridge (maybe the 651p or the MF VLPS)

Second stage -  upgrade cartridge, buy stand for music set up

Third stage -  buy either integrated amp or preamp with nice phono cartridge + power amp



Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: tonedeaf on Jan 16, 2015 at 07:59 AM
So I watched this last night, Michael Fremer's Turntable set-up video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQDa7suJn64

and I ended up agreeing with the guy from the audience (or was it Fremer's cameraman/foil) who jokingly said, and I'm paraphrasing, I don't have to go through this kind of trouble when I play CDs using my CD player. Hahaha.

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Jan 19, 2015 at 08:10 AM
Have $1,000 to spend on a turntable set-up(sold stuff from another hobby)....already have speakers and amplifier....need suggestions for turntable and phone preamp....

These are the ones I'm already looking at:
project debut carbon, U-turn audio's Orbit, rega rp1

phono preamps: schiit Mani, cambridge audio, project phono preamp (not sure which one)....

Was thinking of an all brit set-up with cambridge audio and the rega rp1....

I used to have the Project debut and their base phono preamp...

An all USA set-up would be the Orbit with the Schiit Mani (built in Boston and Valencia CA respectively)....

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Jan 19, 2015 at 05:04 PM
Pulled the trigger...Rega RP 1 performance pack and Rega Fono Mini...arrives Wednesday! Can't wait ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: tonedeaf on Jan 19, 2015 at 10:45 PM
Congrats @Dracula! What color did you end up getting?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Jan 20, 2015 at 12:58 AM
I got the titanium one :) yun na lang yung available from the retailer eh....
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Jan 20, 2015 at 01:55 AM
purchased Adele's album 21 and the best of eva cassidy along with a cleaning brush  O0
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Jan 20, 2015 at 02:02 AM
good to know coz this RP1 purchase will be the last one for TT (wife's stern warning!)

 ;D ;D ;D

if in case you hear na medyo pitchy or you think medyo may delay, its normal po. since you have a lyt platter turntable, it may cause some speed drift. just enjoy the music po. sa mga OC lang yung hindi mapakali sa very minute detail na mga bagay....

i dont like the adele album po, it a so so recording.(opinyon ko lang po. :))
eva cassidy....thats a nice buy

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Jan 20, 2015 at 02:07 AM
some of the new vinyl reissues na magaganda ang recording po.....
halie loren album
suzzane vega album
sade album
inakustik label
mfsl label but not all
music on vinyl label but not all
at marami pa pong iba....
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Jan 20, 2015 at 02:10 AM
ok lang I buy vinyl based on the songs I like not on pressing or recording quality (unless it's really bad).  I buy albums that I can listen from beginning to the end....
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Jan 20, 2015 at 02:11 AM
;D ;D ;D

if in case you hear na medyo pitchy or you think medyo may delay, its normal po. since you have a lyt platter turntable, it may cause some speed drift. just enjoy the music po. sa mga OC lang yung hindi mapakali sa very minute detail na mga bagay....

i dont like the adele album po, it a so so recording.(opinyon ko lang po. :))
eva cassidy....thats a nice buy



Ok lang hindi naman ako super picky....
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Jan 20, 2015 at 02:21 AM
Ok lang hindi naman ako super picky....
thats good to know that your on the musical side of vinyl and its listening experience :) :) :)
btw sir, you hve a nice stereo rig, a prologue1 and a concerto!

tagal pa ng wednesday..... ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Jan 20, 2015 at 02:23 AM
thats good to know that your on the musical side of vinyl and its listening experience :) :) :)
btw sir, you hve a nice stereo rig, a prologue1 and a concerto!

tagal pa ng wednesday..... ;D ;D ;D ;D

Yeah...very upgrade resistant I've had them for 10 years....the Concerto just had the drivers replaced on one of them (moisture build up from humidity in the philippines)...

Alam ko excited na nga ako haha....Rega through the prologue and the concerto will be nice
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Jan 21, 2015 at 04:43 AM
Newbie question....when using the turntable do you keep it running even when changing LPs? and only turn it off when you finished your listening session?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Jan 21, 2015 at 04:54 AM
I'm asking coz the Rega Manual suggests only turning off the turntable after the listening session is over.

From the manual:

Leave the turntable running during a record playing
session. Switch on before the session and only
switch off after you have finished. This will increase
the life of the motor and drive belt.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: audiojunkie on Jan 21, 2015 at 05:22 AM
Newbie question....when using the turntable do you keep it running even when changing LPs? and only turn it off when you finished your listening session?

My TT is fully manual so I have to turn OFF & ON every change of LPs.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Jan 21, 2015 at 05:28 AM
I remember turning it off every time I change LPs....but the Rega RP1 manual says differently
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: JoeyGS on Jan 21, 2015 at 10:14 AM
When changing LPs the platter should not be rotating otherwise you will be stressing the motor or the belt will slip while the motor is running thereby reducing its life.  That's the basic idea.

Newbie question....when using the turntable do you keep it running even when changing LPs? and only turn it off when you finished your listening session?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: choyb on Jan 21, 2015 at 10:29 AM
I remember turning it off every time I change LPs....but the Rega RP1 manual says differently
I also have the Rp1, that is correct, Rega recommends to keep it turned on for duration of session (playing), & turning it off only at end. As stated this prolongs the life of the motor & drive belt.
HTH
Cheers
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dana on Jan 21, 2015 at 10:35 AM
Newbie question....when using the turntable do you keep it running even when changing LPs? and only turn it off when you finished your listening session?
dont have RP tt... i change/flip (A to B,vice versa ) LPs even if its running. i have mastered d technique and besides, - atapang ako eh ;D
pag may bisita, pinapatay or stop ko muna , para wag pamarisan ;)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: meat_eater on Jan 21, 2015 at 11:35 AM
dont have RP tt... i change/flip (A to B,vice versa ) LPs even if its running. i have mastered d technique and besides, - atapang ako eh ;D
pag may bisita, pinapatay or stop ko muna , para wag pamarisan ;)

I saw Rene Rivo do the same thing, flip lps while the tt is running.

I think, pag tagal you get to master things din talaga - but I think, better nga na wag ngang tularan. hehehehe
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Jan 21, 2015 at 11:44 AM
Is a 6 feet 6 inch cable too long to run between the TT and the phono preamp?.....I'm looking for something in the region of 3 feet at one of the brick and mortar stores near my place but all they have is the 6 feet one
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: JoeyGS on Jan 21, 2015 at 11:53 AM
The idea is not to induce too much resistance when the motor is running and the platter rotating......
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: audiojunkie on Jan 21, 2015 at 01:01 PM

Anyone can  share tricks and tips on this exercise ...
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Jan 21, 2015 at 01:31 PM
ako chief, palit kht tumatakbo. if your using an achromat type sa platter, lagyan ng double adhesive para pag kuha mo ng plaka hindi sumama yung matting. sa rega, must yon kse manipis yung platter matt. but if your using a cock board kht hindi na siguro lagyan ng tape. just be sure you get the vinyl using two hands.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: audiojunkie on Jan 21, 2015 at 06:20 PM
ako chief, palit kht tumatakbo. if your using an achromat type sa platter, lagyan ng double adhesive para pag kuha mo ng plaka hindi sumama yung matting. sa rega, must yon kse manipis yung platter matt. but if your using a cock board kht hindi na siguro lagyan ng tape. just be sure you get the vinyl using two hands.

Ayos bossing sa tips.. Sinubukan ko kagabi mag flip at magpalit ng record habang umiikot, timing lang kailangan para maiwasan pagsayad ng plaka sa spindle at base. Sa TT ko walang problema sa mat kasi suspended at sa gitna at sides lang ang supports.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Jan 22, 2015 at 07:36 AM
Rega RP1 in the house!  :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: esr101 on Jan 22, 2015 at 01:09 PM
Congrats! I'm sure that you'll enjoy its simplicity and especially the music you'll play with it just as i did
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Jan 23, 2015 at 01:36 AM
yup.....eva cassidy and adele new LP purchases....

I usually buy based on the songs I like......not familiar with audiophile staples for showcasing vinyl soun any LP suggestions?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: meat_eater on Jan 23, 2015 at 09:44 AM
Look for Lynn Stanley Romance LP and Hugh Masekela Lps.

Sit back, then enjoy the sound (Warning:possible na me kilabot :D)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: roadworthyninja on Jan 23, 2015 at 10:58 AM
Share ko lang yung turntable ko, Gemini DD-50.

Halatang cloned sya ng Technics SL's. Nakuha ko lang ng sobrang mura sa friend ko, halos pamigay presyo.

Maganda ang performance at tunog.

Iniisip ko kung benta ko pa tapos hanap ng 2nd hand Technics SL-1200 or pa tweak na lang kay Sir Rene for better performance :)

(http://s10.postimg.org/s2t1yjjx5/IMG_20140714_082153.jpg)
http://www.djresource.eu/Gearbase/gear/1223/Gemini-XL-DD50/ (http://www.djresource.eu/Gearbase/gear/1223/Gemini-XL-DD50/)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Jan 24, 2015 at 12:42 AM
Look for Lynn Stanley Romance LP and Hugh Masekela Lps.

Sit back, then enjoy the sound (Warning:possible na me kilabot :D)

Romance or Lost in Romance? trying to sample the album on spotify yung Lost in Romance lang mayroon eh
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Jan 24, 2015 at 12:49 AM
Wow that Lyn Stanley album is expensive!  But from listening to it on spotify I understand why it would sound awesome on vinyl....the vocals and instrumentation on the album is sweet  :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: meat_eater on Jan 24, 2015 at 06:54 AM
Wow that Lyn Stanley album is expensive!  But from listening to it on spotify I understand why it would sound awesome on vinyl....the vocals and instrumentation on the album is sweet  :)

That's gonna set you back a good 3000 :)

cheers
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Jan 24, 2015 at 07:57 AM
That's gonna set you back a good 3000 :)

cheers

Yeah but it's an EP and I don't want to go through the trouble of moving the belt...I know it's an easy switch I just don't want to do it...that's why I only buy the 33s
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: meat_eater on Jan 24, 2015 at 08:16 AM
Yeah but it's an EP and I don't want to go through the trouble of moving the belt...I know it's an easy switch I just don't want to do it...that's why I only buy the 33s

Ahh yeah... rp1 nga pala.

Try looking for an Lp ng The Wall, good test of separation, instrumentation and imaging.

♪ ♫ We don't need no education...... Hey Teachers!!! leave those kids alone! ♪ ♫

That's a good sounding big bang for buck TT.

Cheers and enjoy the music :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Jan 24, 2015 at 08:38 AM
Ahh yeah... rp1 nga pala.

Try looking for an Lp ng The Wall, good test of separation, instrumentation and imaging.

♪ ♫ We don't need no education...... Hey Teachers!!! leave those kids alone! ♪ ♫

That's a good sounding big bang for buck TT.

Cheers and enjoy the music :)

Yeah enjoying it a lot...seems like a good match for the SF and primaluna prologue one
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: esr101 on Jan 24, 2015 at 01:35 PM
Listening to John Mayer Continuum in vinyl right now on my RP1. Man that gravity song really sucks you into music land.

Highly recommended album in vinyl format
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Jan 24, 2015 at 01:43 PM
Listening to John Mayer Continuum in vinyl right now on my RP1. Man that gravity song really sucks you into music land.

Highly recommended album in vinyl format

did you get the performance pack?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: esr101 on Jan 24, 2015 at 02:31 PM
No. 100% stock. Later on na lang pag need replacement na.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Jan 24, 2015 at 03:01 PM
best of eva cassidy, adele 21, norah jones come away with me, carpenters singles 1969-73 and the sound of bread...al purchased for the wife :(

When do i get to buy my vinyl...the rp1 is sad
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Feb 06, 2015 at 05:43 AM
Nothing brings a collector more joy than finding an LP they want in play condition in the $1 record bin!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Funky_Monkey on Feb 07, 2015 at 03:30 PM
Wanted to get  some help.  Where can I have an old turntable repaired?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: audiojunkie on Feb 07, 2015 at 03:52 PM
Wanted to get  some help.  Where can I have an old turntable repaired?

May be you can be more spicific of your unit... Some members may / can provide help and no need a hands on tech to fix.
Title: Turntable Part 2
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Feb 07, 2015 at 03:53 PM
Guys,
Between these two TTs ano marerecommend nyo as a starter TT?  I will connect it directly sa phono input ng Musical Fidelity A5 Integrated Amplifier...
Thanks :)

http://m.olx.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/67884352/Elegant+Victor+Turntable+Smooth+and+Complete+for+your+Speaker?referralKeywords=Victor+turntable (http://m.olx.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/67884352/Elegant+Victor+Turntable+Smooth+and+Complete+for+your+Speaker?referralKeywords=Victor+turntable)

http://m.olx.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/67450608/Thorens+TD+280+MKIV+Belt+Drive+Turntable?referralKeywords=Thorens+turntable (http://m.olx.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/67450608/Thorens+TD+280+MKIV+Belt+Drive+Turntable?referralKeywords=Thorens+turntable)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Feb 07, 2015 at 03:56 PM
Mahal yan!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Tsnad on Feb 07, 2015 at 03:58 PM
Sir Louie eto po.... ^-^
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,198296.0.html
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,191142.0.html
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: doasmarx on Feb 07, 2015 at 03:59 PM
Victor TT pero agree with superman mahal nga
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: audiojunkie on Feb 07, 2015 at 04:03 PM

For vintage look, would choose victor. Performance may be not much difference with thorens if it's original version.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Feb 07, 2015 at 04:21 PM
Sir Louie eto po.... ^-^
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,198296.0.html
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,191142.0.html

Haha. Loko ka sir Ogie. 4x ang price nyan sa budget ko ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Feb 07, 2015 at 04:31 PM
Thanks for the feedback guys.
For a budget of around 10k to 12k any other recommended decent sounding TTs na ok na iconnect directly sa built in phono. Thanks ^-^
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Funky_Monkey on Feb 07, 2015 at 04:32 PM
May be you can be more spicific of your unit... Some members may / can provide help and no need a hands on tech to fix.


Dual 731Q

Plugged in the turntable - It spun a bit then heard a crack. 

My question is: 

Where Can I have it repaired?  Are there still available parts? 

any information appreciated.

(http://s7.postimg.org/iufez9yqj/dffce2bdec37932cdebf97de8b577c00254acf47b3ea5d2a.jpg)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: ndotcom on Feb 07, 2015 at 05:24 PM
Thanks for the feedback guys.
For a budget of around 10k to 12k any other recommended decent sounding TTs na ok na iconnect directly sa built in phono. Thanks ^-^

Psssst..

heto oh baka available pa, Pioneer idlerdrive table(item 3.) ganda malamang tunog nyan. Plug and play na with ortofon red MM cart malamang bagay sa Phono nyan amp mo. Or kung may Ortofon blue later ka pa makita mas ok.

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,180816.0.html
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: audiojunkie on Feb 07, 2015 at 05:24 PM

Dual 731Q

Plugged in the turntable - It spun a bit then heard a crack. 

My question is: 

Where Can I have it repaired?  Are there still available parts? 

any information appreciated.

(http://s7.postimg.org/iufez9yqj/dffce2bdec37932cdebf97de8b577c00254acf47b3ea5d2a.jpg)

I saw it already sir in your thread & left a note. I suggest to clean first and pinpoint the problem before sending to tech. Unless you want to package the work, clean & check + fix if required.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Feb 07, 2015 at 05:29 PM
There seems to be more choices at the other site:

Technics SL3200 http://www.olx.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/67335601/Technics+SL+3200+Direct+Drive+Turntable?referralKeywords=turntable&event=Search+Ranking,Position,4-19,79

Denon DP-37f
http://www.olx.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/67315452/Denon+DP-37f+direct+drive+automatic+turntable?referralKeywords=turntable&event=Search+Ranking,Position,5-1,81

Rega Rp1
http://www.olx.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/67832491/Rega+Rp1+Turntable+with+free+brand+new+lp?referralKeywords=rega&event=Search+Ranking,Position,1-7,7

Thanks for the feedback guys.
For a budget of around 10k to 12k any other recommended decent sounding TTs na ok na iconnect directly sa built in phono. Thanks ^-^
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Feb 07, 2015 at 06:18 PM
PM Reymer. I am sure he can help you. That seller in olx is familiar. He is a member here
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Funky_Monkey on Feb 07, 2015 at 07:38 PM
I saw it already sir in your thread & left a note. I suggest to clean first and pinpoint the problem before sending to tech. Unless you want to package the work, clean & check + fix if required.

I think I better go option 2 -  package the work, clean & check + fix if required.  any recos?

-im based in ortigas center, so the nearer the better
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: audiojunkie on Feb 07, 2015 at 07:48 PM
I think I better go option 2 -  package the work, clean & check + fix if required.  any recos?

Not very familiar with local tech to recommend... May be other members do know reliable shop, would be helpful also to mention a vicinity close to your place.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Feb 07, 2015 at 09:10 PM
Psssst..

heto oh baka available pa, Pioneer idlerdrive table(item 3.) ganda malamang tunog nyan. Plug and play na with ortofon red MM cart malamang bagay sa Phono nyan amp mo. Or kung may Ortofon blue later ka pa makita mas ok.

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,180816.0.html

Uy nice!
Salamat sis Norma :)

Thanks for the suggestions also Jojo and sir Jen ;)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Feb 08, 2015 at 12:52 AM
Are there any sonic benefits to running a vintage turntable as opposed to a current production one?

(and can we stop abbreviating turntable, I mean isn't it silly that it takes a lot of work to maintain and play your turntable and you can't give it the respect that properly spelling and putting in the 8 letters gives it?)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Feb 08, 2015 at 01:22 AM
I read an article that original pressings aren't only collectible they are sometimes superior to a re-issue.  It says that some re-issues are actually ripped from CDs when the releasing company doesn't have access to the analog master.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Feb 08, 2015 at 01:35 AM
I read an article that original pressings aren't only collectible they are sometimes superior to a re-issue.  It says that some re-issues are actually ripped from CDs when the releasing company doesn't have access to the analog master.

yung mga bagong reissue lang sir ang digital master. yung mga tinda ngayon sa music shop na sealed karamihan digitally remastered yon. hanggang advent siguro sir ng 90's bka nakaanalog master pa, pero yung year 2000 to present lahat digital mastering na yata.
hindi lahat ng original pressing maganda tunog, sa beatles lang mas nagagandahan ako sa digital remastered copy eh. ;D ;D ;D novelty lang yung orig pressing, but ill take the orig pressing over the remastered copy at any given day ;D ;D

also, original pressing is the first pressing kaya sought after, rare kse. yung next batch of pressing yun na yung reissue. yung mga magagagling sa plaka alam nila ang barcodes ng first pressing ng mga released albums.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Feb 08, 2015 at 04:42 AM
my wife likes the original pressing as well...pero gusto din niya yung dead quiet ng reissue
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Feb 08, 2015 at 08:53 AM
Try this also:

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,155040.0.html

But would recommend the Pioneer idler...
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Feb 08, 2015 at 09:38 AM
my wife likes the original pressing as well...pero gusto din niya yung dead quiet ng reissue
galing naman sir ni misis. is she religiously looking on every matrix number of the album na binibili nya? kse this is the only way you can check if its a first pressing or not...
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: remington on Feb 08, 2015 at 04:43 PM
just want to share my latest dig ;)

pioneer xl-a700s......mint

(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b622/remington0624/newest%20set%20up/10420142_354931948048695_112634630562070032_n_zpsk6oyauah.jpg) (http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/remington0624/media/newest%20set%20up/10420142_354931948048695_112634630562070032_n_zpsk6oyauah.jpg.html)

(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b622/remington0624/newest%20set%20up/10428501_354931954715361_7901945896492548067_n_zpserzpneha.jpg) (http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/remington0624/media/newest%20set%20up/10428501_354931954715361_7901945896492548067_n_zpserzpneha.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Feb 08, 2015 at 05:40 PM
Here's another one you can consider:

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,198296.0.html

The freebie LPs alone cost P3K already
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Feb 08, 2015 at 08:56 PM
Here's another one you can consider:

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,198296.0.html

The freebie LPs alone cost P3K already

Thanks sir Jen...
Between the RP1 and the Pioneer Idler,  which one is better interms of SQ? Thanks :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Feb 08, 2015 at 09:01 PM
Thanks sir Jen...
Between the RP1 and the Pioneer Idler,  which one is better interms of SQ? Thanks :)

hoy luwela hindi ka pang entry level kya wag mo pilitin ang sarili mo ha! kumuha ka na ng rp3. ;D ;D ;D ;D >:D >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Feb 08, 2015 at 09:24 PM
hoy luwela hindi ka pang entry level kya wag mo pilitin ang sarili mo ha! kumuha ka na ng rp3. ;D ;D ;D ;D >:D >:D >:D >:D

Haha. Mahal na ng RP3 sis dodieness...
Try try muna kung kaya ko mag alaga ng turntable :)
Viber kita sis kung makakuha ako at magpapaturo ako. Hehehe
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Feb 09, 2015 at 04:33 AM
galing naman sir ni misis. is she religiously looking on every matrix number of the album na binibili nya? kse this is the only way you can check if its a first pressing or not...

hindi namin alam kung first pressing....basta ok lang siya doon sa mga lumang plaka na inuuwi ko from digging in the $1 pile of records
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: ndotcom on Feb 09, 2015 at 06:11 AM
Thanks sir Jen...
Between the RP1 and the Pioneer Idler,  which one is better interms of SQ? Thanks :)

Sis sound wise sa Pioneer ako plus pogi points na cosmetics nung nasa MP with a good cart to booth. Pero resale wise ang isipin sa RP1 ako, I'm just not so inclined sa mga rega carts.

The safest way na reccomend ko sayo is to look for Technics sl1200. O kaya ay bulungan mo nalang isa sa mga turntables ni King DODIE may stockpile yan sa kaharian nya bukod sa plaka  ;D
Title: Turntable Part 2
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Feb 09, 2015 at 08:20 AM
Sis sound wise sa Pioneer ako plus pogi points na cosmetics nung nasa MP with a good cart to booth. Pero resale wise ang isipin sa RP1 ako, I'm just not so inclined sa mga rega carts.

The safest way na reccomend ko sayo is to look for Technics sl1200. O kaya ay bulungan mo nalang isa sa mga turntables ni King DODIE may stockpile yan sa kaharian nya bukod sa plaka  ;D

Salamat sis Normita :)
Nagreresearch nga din ako ng SL1200 pero mukhang bihira na ang nagbebenta :(
Saka yung mga turntables ni Reyna Dodie sa kaharian eh puro collector's item, baka kapag binenta sakin ang kapalit dalawang sakong pilak ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: ndotcom on Feb 09, 2015 at 08:30 AM
Salamat sis Normita :)
Nagreresearch nga din ako ng SL1200 pero mukhang bihira na ang nagbebenta :(
Saka yung mga turntables ni Reyna Dodie sa kaharian eh puro collector's item, baka kapag binenta sakin ang kapalit dalawang sakong pilak ;D

Yun lang hehehe

Heto pero DJ set sya hanap ka kahati. At kung ok pa at di masyado laspag..

http://www.olx.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/67867036/1+pair+Technics+SL+1200+MK2+Turntable?referralKeywords=turntable+for+sale&event=Search+Ranking,Position,3-1,41
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Feb 09, 2015 at 08:41 AM
Yun lang hehehe

Heto pero DJ set sya hanap ka kahati. At kung ok pa at di masyado laspag..

http://www.olx.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/67867036/1+pair+Technics+SL+1200+MK2+Turntable?referralKeywords=turntable+for+sale&event=Search+Ranking,Position,3-1,41

Nakita ko nga din yan sis... Sunubukan kong itext kung pwedeng isang SL1200 lang pero di pa sumasagot ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: ndotcom on Feb 09, 2015 at 08:46 AM
Pero mga ganito bagay sayo eh...

http://app.audiogon.com/listings/turntables-origin-live-calypso-mk3-stop-the-ordinary-get-vibrant-engaging-music-in-compact-mod-2015-02-02-analog-92010-carlsbad-ca

http://app.audiogon.com/listings/turntables-oracle-audio-paris-red-hot-2015-01-17-analog-10075-ny

http://app.audiogon.com/listings/turntables-linn-sondek-lp-12-2015-01-31-analog-95037-morgan-hill-ca

http://app.audiogon.com/listings/turntables-linn-sondek-lp12-akito-linn-sondek-akito-plus-updates-2015-02-05-analog-53188-waukesha-wi

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Feb 09, 2015 at 08:54 AM
Salamat sis Normita :)
Nagreresearch nga din ako ng SL1200 pero mukhang bihira na ang nagbebenta :(
Saka yung mga turntables ni Reyna Dodie sa kaharian eh puro collector's item, baka kapag binenta sakin ang kapalit dalawang sakong pilak ;D

wala akong for sale.....yung 1200 tawaran mo pag klangan pares bibilhin, akin yun isa! :D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Feb 09, 2015 at 08:56 AM
Hahaha!!!
Loko ka sis...
Pareho kayo ni Reynang Dodieness ;D

Ang mamahal nyan ^-^
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Feb 09, 2015 at 09:05 AM
Bagay sa yo TW!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Feb 09, 2015 at 09:05 AM
my dream systems:

http://www.warrengregoire.com/hifi-stereo-ikonoklast3-complete-systems.htm
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Tsnad on Feb 09, 2015 at 09:32 AM
Hahaha!!!
Loko ka sis...
Pareho kayo ni Reynang Dodieness ;D

Ang mamahal nyan ^-^

Sir,  eto po.... >:D  mint yan ^-^
http://www.olx.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/66770382/Technics+Turntable+blue+led+%28Price+Down%29?referralKeywords=elpcsantiago&event=Search+Ranking,Position,5-13,93#advertisementDetails
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: retro12195 on Feb 09, 2015 at 09:36 AM
ganda yan  >:D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: meat_eater on Feb 09, 2015 at 09:36 AM
Bakit Rp1? hehehehe

Go for the rp3... or better... eto na

* ClearAudio Emotion Turntable with acrylic cover Satisfy tonearm matched with 
   Aurum Classics Wooden Cartridge(used less than 10X) P 42K

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,191142.0.html
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Feb 09, 2015 at 09:40 AM
Guy from groovetracer sent me pics o an upgraded rp1 (sub-platter, platter and counterweight), pretty upgrades yummy
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: ndotcom on Feb 09, 2015 at 11:44 AM
wala akong for sale.....yung 1200 tawaran mo pag klangan pares bibilhin, akin yun isa! :D

Ayan na may ka volt-in na go go go...yan ang classic design na modern pa rin dating gang ngayon na kinokopya pa ng iba. Di high maintenance at pang harabas kaya di ka takot kalikutin bilang 1st turntable mo.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Feb 09, 2015 at 11:49 AM
AYUN! Banat na! Pag recommended ni Emperor Dodie, siguradong pang-Royal Highness yan!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Voltraizer on Feb 10, 2015 at 12:15 PM
sharing mine(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g8/voltes_v/joe3p.jpg)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: audiojunkie on Feb 10, 2015 at 12:53 PM

^ Ganda..!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Voltraizer on Feb 10, 2015 at 09:14 PM
^ Ganda..!
i agree. maganda talaga ang gawa ni joe3rp... tnx
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Feb 13, 2015 at 05:49 PM
Members with two turntables? Why? What are the benefits?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Feb 13, 2015 at 05:57 PM
Direct Drive, Belt Drive...
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: audiojunkie on Feb 13, 2015 at 06:06 PM
The other one is for this...

(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa316/ram_on/other/image.jpg1_zpsjytwbhz1.jpg)

;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Feb 13, 2015 at 06:12 PM
Or maybe one new production turntable and a vintage one?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Feb 13, 2015 at 07:58 PM
Members with two turntables? Why? What are the benefits?

saken lang chief.......multiple turntable or 1 turntabLe with 2or3 arms. para sa diff carts. isang mm for your general collections. isang mm na pang dj/ for rock music &dose. isang mc, isang mono! isa para sa isang mc uli for your six eyes, mfsl, verve, nautilus etc etc... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: doasmarx on Feb 13, 2015 at 08:12 PM
Pwede na siguro ganito dodie. Hhehehehe

(http://www.theanalogdept.com/images/spp6_pics/Thorens_Gallery/ptc/PTC2/HOK_2323-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Feb 13, 2015 at 08:16 PM
Pwede na siguro ganito dodie. Hhehehehe

(http://www.theanalogdept.com/images/spp6_pics/Thorens_Gallery/ptc/PTC2/HOK_2323-1.jpg)

pang kay tomsing lang yan boss dax! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ska kay dok endrik pala ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D saka kay usec ;D ;D ;D ;D ska kay patrick! hahahahaha
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Feb 14, 2015 at 04:06 PM
saken lang chief.......multiple turntable or 1 turntabLe with 2or3 arms. para sa diff carts. isang mm for your general collections. isang mm na pang dj/ for rock music &dose. isang mc, isang mono! isa para sa isang mc uli for your six eyes, mfsl, verve, nautilus etc etc... ;D ;D

Clearly somebody has been spending a lot on their hobby! :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Feb 14, 2015 at 05:04 PM

Clearly somebody has been spending a lot on their hobby! :)

i think 80 percent of the people here are spending a lot just to get the best of of this hobby...havent you see it sir?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: yakisoba on Feb 15, 2015 at 10:14 PM
you guys know where I can get a REGA 1?  Complete newbie sa turntable ... i prefer sana pwede credit card yung payment. 
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dracula on Feb 16, 2015 at 11:12 AM
i think 80 percent of the people here are spending a lot just to get the best of of this hobby...havent you see it sir?

Closer to 99.99%! :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: tonedeaf on Feb 18, 2015 at 09:47 PM
For those using turntables with AV receivers (instead of dedicated audio set up), do you use the "direct" or "pure direct" option, or stereo?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: tonedeaf on Feb 18, 2015 at 10:45 PM
hi all!

[newbie question]

i recall my parents having a turntable and a few records when i was a child, but since then, have not had the chance to tinker with a turntable again.

since joining pinoydvd, i've gone the home theater route and my current set-up is this:

Onkyo 494 (which amazingly, has a phono input)
Mission M73
Mission M7c1
Mission M70 (soon!)

i'd like to expand my set-up to include a turntable.  considering that this is fairly entry-level, would it be a good idea to do so?  or will a turntable require a better set of speakers, or a different receiver? i don't think i'll be upgrading in the next few years and i'm quite happy with my set-up (both for music and HT).  can you recommend a turntable which would match?  Thanks.

for the record, and as shown by my post quoted above, I've been thinking about getting a turntable since 2002! hahaha. more than 12 years in the making.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: tonedeaf on Feb 25, 2015 at 08:49 PM
For those using turntables with AV receivers (instead of dedicated audio set up), do you use the "direct" or "pure direct" option, or stereo?

Up for my query above. Safe to say that the answer should be direct or pure direct? Else, the sound wouldn't be analog anymore since if stereo, it will go through the DAC of the receiver?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: esr101 on Feb 25, 2015 at 09:02 PM
I would use pure direct.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Feb 26, 2015 at 01:17 AM
Up for my query above. Safe to say that the answer should be direct or pure direct? Else, the sound wouldn't be analog anymore since if stereo, it will go through the DAC of the receiver?

pure direct po. di ko lang alam kung may sub channel pag naka set sa pure direct. parang stereo config lang yata(2.0) Pure Direct maintains a signal path from the outputs of the source  all the way thru the AVR with no  A/D, no DSP/AutoEQ, and no backend D/A to the output stages and to your speakers. kung phono input gmit nyo mam bypass lahat. kung line input, bypass pati internal dac if your using an external dac.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dana on Feb 26, 2015 at 09:44 AM
for the record, and as shown by my post quoted above, I've been thinking about getting a turntable since 2002! hahaha. more than 12 years in the making.

ser, dont wait for another 12 yrs to try ;D
hanggang kaya mo pa maitaas ang braso mo to put a vinyl & cue on 1st track,try it.
look for Reymer in for sale section, dami nya nice tts from time to time. meron sya now
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Macmon on Feb 27, 2015 at 07:26 PM
Saan sir pwede pa check ang turntable if functional and if may stylus pa na pwede replace? Area ng QC Diliman if possible or nearby any good service center?
Unit for checking Sansui PD-10http://www.vintage-audio.com.ua/en/cat/201/2528.html?begin=11
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Feb 28, 2015 at 12:00 AM
Noly aka The Analog Source
Title: Re: changing cartridge
Post by: Ernel on Mar 14, 2015 at 09:50 PM
is it difficult to change cartridge?

tingin ko mabigat kamay ko e. :)

Kanino kaya pwede mapa palitan ang cartridge ng RP1 ko.  May nabili ako na performance upgrade kit e.

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: audiojunkie on Mar 14, 2015 at 10:32 PM
is it difficult to change cartridge?

tingin ko mabigat kamay ko e. :)

Kanino kaya pwede mapa palitan ang cartridge ng RP1 ko.  May nabili ako na performance upgrade kit e.




madali lang sir magpalit. Kailangan lang sefety precaution na di madamage ang stylus. Focus at concentration sa ginagawa. Mas complicated yung alignment to get correct overhang. Kaiangan dito ng protractor for reference.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Jairus on Mar 14, 2015 at 11:15 PM
Sharing pics of my 2 vintage tables:

Technics SL-MA1 (Fully automatic direct drive)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b81/jairus1301/Facebook/Mobile%20Uploads/1502871_10201031658126275_1110166045_o.jpg)

Trio KP (Semi-automatic direct drive)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b81/jairus1301/FullSizeRender%201.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b81/jairus1301/FullSizeRender.jpg)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Valiente on May 02, 2015 at 07:13 PM
Turntable guys, which store sells Rega turntables? Salamat po.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 02, 2015 at 10:54 PM
Turntable guys, which store sells Rega turntables? Salamat po.

Watt Hifi in Makati Cinema Square
Stereo Files in Fairview
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Valiente on May 03, 2015 at 04:03 PM
Guys, are you really enjoying your turntables? Why? Salamat po.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on May 04, 2015 at 12:44 AM
Guys, are you really enjoying your turntables? Why? Salamat po.

its my main source chief...secondary lang ang cdp. hindi para sa lahat ang turntable. matrabaho masyado. kung sanay ka sa digital source o headfi ka, bka tamrin kang tayo ng tayo pag palit ng plaka tapos hindi mo pa mapili ang gusto mong kanta.
ikaw chief, whats your reason why do you want to have a turntable? na curious ka lang ba? o dagdag source lang? o may vinyl collection ka na gusto mong pakingan uli? o gusto mong ikumpara yung present rig mo sa analog?

btw chief, yung enjoyment is relative...just like me, i enjoy my turntable ksa sa headphone ko at sa cdp ko....sa iba, its the other way around.  but just in case youll be getting a table, maganda na din yung meron ka na player ng lahat ng medium....prang boy scout lang, laging handa! :D :D  ;) :D :D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Valiente on May 04, 2015 at 09:03 PM
Thanks Dodie for the answer.

Robert Harley of Absolute Sound said:
"Placing an LP on a turntable signifies your intention to set aside all other activities and turn your full attention to the music."

Another website said:
"Vinyl has always offered a more intimate experience. There is something wonderfully interactive about putting on a record, listening to a side, and then flipping it over to hear the other side. It makes the listening experience something in which you are constantly physically and emotionally involved. It's social and fun, a far cry from the passive aural experience of CDs or digital."

To sum it up, "Vinyl isn't just music. It's an experience. And one that's worth paying for.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Blackstar on May 05, 2015 at 01:39 AM
Thanks Dodie for the answer.

Robert Harley of Absolute Sound said:
"Placing an LP on a turntable signifies your intention to set aside all other activities and turn your full attention to the music."

Another website said:
"Vinyl has always offered a more intimate experience. There is something wonderfully interactive about putting on a record, listening to a side, and then flipping it over to hear the other side. It makes the listening experience something in which you are constantly physically and emotionally involved. It's social and fun, a far cry from the passive aural experience of CDs or digital."

To sum it up, "Vinyl isn't just music. It's an experience. And one that's worth paying for.

Exactly my sentiments when I got into this journey. The almost ritualistic process of playing an LP is highly engaging and puts me on that state of "undivided attention" for the music. When you play an LP, it's like a commitment you make to listening intently after you have cleaned the record and put the needle on it and start playing. And when the music starts, its like harvesting the fruits of your labor. :D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dollarman on May 05, 2015 at 04:34 PM
Mga kapatid, may i ask which tt would give me a bigger step up from a rp1? Im looking at a rp3, technics 1200 and the clearaudio posted sa MP. Any help or tips is appreciated.  ^-^
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: meat_eater on May 06, 2015 at 08:04 AM
Mga kapatid, may i ask which tt would give me a bigger step up from a rp1? Im looking at a rp3, technics 1200 and the clearaudio posted sa MP. Any help or tips is appreciated.  ^-^

All those mentioned maybe with the exemption of the 1200. Rp1 vs sl1200, medio di ako sure if better si 1200 sa sq... depende siguro sa cart.

If you want a significant step up, try the lenco with Jelco Arm, or the VPI turntables... Lynn TT din if me makita ka...

Try to contact George Mabasa, I think sia si Ihatejazz sa wiredstate.

Bang for buck would be the rp1, bigger bang for bigger bucks  would be the rp3.

Cheers :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dollarman on May 06, 2015 at 04:50 PM
Sir i plan to sell the rp1 or make it a backup table. Hanap ko sana that will allow me to try different carts in the future and is easy to maintain.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: tonedeaf on May 13, 2015 at 08:26 PM
Guys, are you really enjoying your turntables? Why? Salamat po.
As someone who just recently got a turntable, here are my thoughts.

Yes, I enjoy it because it's different from listening to my cds and digital files. Iba yung experience.

I don't think it's better though. Just different. And for someone like me who has cds and digital files and listens via headphone, car stereo, cd player and wireless DAC, it has a lot of "buts":

1. Vinyl is expensive;
2. You can't play it on the background while doing chores, or surfing the net, or playing mobile games, for example. You'll have to run back to your turntable every 20 minutes or so. In other words, it's not for the multi tasking generation hahaha;
3. Part of the fun is looking for records, whether brand new or used. But it also takes a lot of time. Unlike digital downloads where it's easy to find your songs from iTunes or HD tracks, and you can do this in the comfort of your home at whatever time of day;
4. It's not portable;
5. Parang mahirap maintenance nya. You need to check your needle every so often in case it has accumulated dirt (you'll hear it though hahaha).  I tried watching one of those Michael Fremer videos on how to set up your turntable properly, and reading articles on changing whatever component of my rp3 so it will sound better and I just ended up thinking "so that's why cd players and digital music players were invented."  Hahaha.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: nbc on May 13, 2015 at 10:05 PM
Tried Vinyl before, late 90's up to 2004. Never really enjoyed it. I didn't like having to stand up every so often. Hehe.

nbc
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: hekelef on May 14, 2015 at 01:40 PM
Anybody here have MOTORINOS TURN TABLE II? Reviews?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on May 14, 2015 at 03:27 PM
Anybody here have MOTORINOS TURN TABLE II? Reviews?

if you are serious about your audio chief, stay away from motorino turntables.....
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dollarman on May 14, 2015 at 04:12 PM
if you are serious about your audio chief, stay away from motorino turntables.....

Psst brader patulong sa upgrade ko... >:D
Title: Turntable Part 2
Post by: neilc on May 14, 2015 at 04:14 PM
Anybody here have MOTORINOS TURN TABLE II? Reviews?

I have one. It serves the purpose of being portable as it has rechargeable power. You can convert your vinyls to MP3s. Not for the audiophile of course but it's nice to have one inside your bedroom if you have vinyls. This is what sparked my vinyl journey. Now it's just being used sparingly as I have a Rega for my system. I'm selling it now actually
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: hekelef on May 16, 2015 at 10:24 PM
Sir how much are you selling your motorino, pm me, thanks
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 16, 2015 at 11:41 PM
Psst brader patulong sa upgrade ko... >:D
sl 1200 daw na mm cart or rp3 hehehe..
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: neilc on May 17, 2015 at 06:58 PM
Any user feedback here for the Audio Technica 1240 TT? I'm planning to get one to replace my RP1.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dollarman on May 17, 2015 at 09:31 PM
sl 1200 daw na mm cart or rp3 hehehe..

MC cart daw sabi ng analog king.. >:D musta na derek?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Jakob on May 18, 2015 at 01:08 AM
brand new entry level TT or used, classic mid entry level TT from 70-80's?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 18, 2015 at 11:17 AM

MC cart daw sabi ng analog king.. >:D musta na derek?
ayos naman mc type ko dyan naging mm not sure hahahaha
sl1200 built to last daw hahaha
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: ancheta on May 21, 2015 at 12:53 PM
Hello guys, pls. Help.
    I recently acquired a japan surplus pioneer tt  PL 1250s, manual..lateky, the speed is erratic. Sometimes fast then suddenly it slows dow. I tried cleaning, the potentiometer by spraying them  with contact cleaner bt. To no avail. Can u recommend any good repairman of tt , particularly someone who is familiar with pioneer tt? Thanks!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: neilc on May 29, 2015 at 03:29 PM

Any user feedback here for the Audio Technica 1240 TT? I'm planning to get one to replace my RP1.

Any user feedback guys? I'm really opting to sell my RP1 to get the Audio Technica.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: muypogi on May 29, 2015 at 07:15 PM

Any user feedback guys? I'm really opting to sell my RP1 to get the Audio Technica.

I'd advise to buy the RP1 performance pack or step up to an Rp3.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: esr101 on May 29, 2015 at 08:03 PM
I recommend the Rp1 performance pack. I recently had the upgrade and its worth it. Sound opened up more coming from stock. Plus its really affordable.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: neilc on May 29, 2015 at 09:16 PM
What's included in the pack?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: esr101 on May 30, 2015 at 12:34 AM
Belt, wool mat, rega bias 2
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: neilc on May 30, 2015 at 08:03 AM
Thanks for your replies. I'm kinda hesitant to do the upgrade because my issue with the RP1 are the ff:

1. Belt drive. I believe it's better to have a direct drive but I maybe wrong. I'm just thinking about the belt that will be loose in time.
2. The interconnect is not replaceable. I find the Cable flimsy.
3. Manual speed change. This is really a hassle.
4. Weight. I find it light and with that, issue on stability.

Your thoughts please guys. Thanks,
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: muypogi on May 30, 2015 at 10:37 AM

Thanks for your replies. I'm kinda hesitant to do the upgrade because my issue with the RP1 are the ff:

1. Belt drive. I believe it's better to have a direct drive but I maybe wrong. I'm just thinking about the belt that will be loose in time.
2. The interconnect is not replaceable. I find the Cable flimsy.
3. Manual speed change. This is really a hassle.
4. Weight. I find it light and with that, issue on stability.

Your thoughts please guys. Thanks,

1) matter if choice, but belt drives now are fairly reliable. Belt of course will need replacing, bit this is dependent on how much you play. Belt drives are supposed to isolate the motor from the platter, leading to less vibration and noise coming from the motor.

2) I find the interconnects in most tables probably the last item you should replace, unless it is already frayed and grounded. The cable is fine.

3) one more reason to get an RP3, since you can use the TT PSU of Rega, which automates the speed switch. In any case, speed switching hassle depends on whether you always switch between 33 and 45 evry time you play.  Most of my LPs are 33 so this is less of a problem.

4) you need to just place it on a stable platform, as most of the mass is in the platter anyway.  Rega tables are not massive anyway, even up to the higher-end models.

HTH.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: meat_eater on May 30, 2015 at 10:43 AM
1) matter if choice, but belt drives now are fairly reliable. Belt of course will need replacing, bit this is dependent on how much you play. Belt drives are supposed to isolate the motor from the platter, leading to less vibration and noise coming from the motor.

2) I find the interconnects in most tables probably the last item you should replace, unless it is already frayed and grounded. The cable is fine.

3) one more reason to get an RP3, since you can use the TT PSU of Rega, which automates the speed switch. In any case, speed switching hassle depends on whether you always switch between 33 and 45 evry time you play.  Most of my LPs are 33 so this is less of a problem.

4) you need to just place it on a stable platform, as most of the mass is in the platter anyway.  Rega tables are not massive anyway, even up to the higher-end models.

HTH.

Very well said.

Also, Rega designed their tables to be light, as Roy Gandy's belief is that Mass stores energy, hence the "light" designs.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: neilc on May 30, 2015 at 02:32 PM

1) matter if choice, but belt drives now are fairly reliable. Belt of course will need replacing, bit this is dependent on how much you play. Belt drives are supposed to isolate the motor from the platter, leading to less vibration and noise coming from the motor.

2) I find the interconnects in most tables probably the last item you should replace, unless it is already frayed and grounded. The cable is fine.

3) one more reason to get an RP3, since you can use the TT PSU of Rega, which automates the speed switch. In any case, speed switching hassle depends on whether you always switch between 33 and 45 evry time you play.  Most of my LPs are 33 so this is less of a problem.

4) you need to just place it on a stable platform, as most of the mass is in the platter anyway.  Rega tables are not massive anyway, even up to the higher-end models.

HTH.

Thanks for the input chief.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Jun 01, 2015 at 09:24 PM
Any user feedback here for the Audio Technica 1240 TT? I'm planning to get one to replace my RP1.

It's ok but like all Hanpin (China) made turntables (Stanton, Reloop, American Audio, Audio Technica, the new Pioneer PLX-1000, etc), their internal components are cheaply made plus the speed sensors are prone to malfunction due to optical sensor. Unlike the SL1200, it's main diecast frame is the entire heatsink. As to the internal heatsinks that Hanpin installed and generates a lot of heat. Wow and flutter is much higher than of the 1200. Feedback is bad and these 1200 copycats just can't do it right.

So I would suggest to just find a used (good condition) 1200 and or a beaten up one, have it refurbished (self promotion here. Hehehe!) and use it for the next 30 years without worries.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNzMcH2ZbtU#t=887

Basically, the internals of the Pioneer PLX-1000 (video link above) is very similar to the rest of Hanpin made turntables.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: neilc on Jun 01, 2015 at 10:43 PM

It's ok but like all Hanpin (China) made turntables (Stanton, Reloop, American Audio, the new Pioneer PLX-1000, etc), their internal components are cheaply made plus the speed sensors are prone to malfunction due to optical sensor. Unlike the SL1200, it's main diecast frame is the entire heatsink. As to the internal heatsinks that Hanpin installed and generates a lot of heat. Wow and flutter is much higher than of the 1200. Feedback is bad and these 1200 copycats just can't do it right.

So I would suggest to just find a used (good condition) 1200 and or a beaten up one, have it refurbished (self promotion here. Hehehe!) and use it for the next 30 years without worries.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNzMcH2ZbtU#t=887

Basically, the internals of the Pioneer PLX-1000 (video link above) is very similar to the rest of Hanpin made turntables.

Thanks chief. You got me interested in the 1200. You know where I can source one?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Jun 02, 2015 at 11:22 AM
Thanks chief. You got me interested in the 1200. You know where I can source one?

PMed you.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Lynn on Jun 03, 2015 at 02:46 PM
How about the reviews of LP120 and LP1240? are these also cheap internals? some reviews in Youtube have great praises on these...
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dollarman on Jun 05, 2015 at 02:18 AM
just sharing from wiredstate....


http://www.thevinylfactory.com/vinyl-factory-releases/gallery-15-of-the-most-beautiful-turntables-ever-made/
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: j0n on Jun 11, 2015 at 02:54 PM
anyone here tried the pro-ject essential II? is it available locally, if yes where and how much?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: mykel18 on Jun 11, 2015 at 06:56 PM

anyone here tried the pro-ject essential II? is it available locally, if yes where and how much?

Distributor of Pro-ject is Acoustic Dimension in Rockwell Powerplant.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: j0n on Jun 12, 2015 at 07:17 PM
Thank you sir. Another question, is the Audio Technica AT LP60 available locally? Which is better pro-ject essential ii or that?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: neilc on Jun 12, 2015 at 08:38 PM
Got the RP1 Performance Pack and it really has a huge difference from the stock! Happy camper here!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: esr101 on Jun 12, 2015 at 08:46 PM
Got the RP1 Performance Pack and it really has a huge difference from the stock! Happy camper here!
Good that you like it. Brings the budget turntable to another level for a reasonable cost.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: banesto on Jun 13, 2015 at 09:53 PM
Any one knows Diatone DP EC-1 Turntable? May adjustment ba ng tone arm height ito like Technics sl1200 series? Di ko kasi malaman kun may adjustment ng tone arm height ito.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Jun 23, 2015 at 11:38 AM
Clean and Simple 3

Both of the units' main diecast frame and tonearm sections are finished in 1200 MK2 original silver shade. Tonearm bridges have been replaced on both units because the pivot screws have corroded badly and stuck. So the bridges had to be cut with dremmel just to take out the arms. Strobe, 33/45 and pitch indicator LEDs were replaced with super bright white as well as converted Pop-up lamps. RCA cables and connectors replaced with internal grounding and tonearms rebuilt and calibrated to factory setting. The rubber base, tonearm mount plate were also repainted to flat black. Pitch controls calibrated and applied with new aluminum pitch decal ornaments. Platter refaced (3-step) and repainted, Pitch control knobs repainted because the original color have faded already. Switch assembly (Switch, start/stop, 33/45 buttons) and PCBs cleaned. Pivot bearings and motor spindle lubricated.

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Jun 23, 2015 at 11:55 AM
Walter's Bright Yellow.

This is the first of six pairs for Walter Zamora.

Main diecast frame and tonearm sections are finished in glossy bright yellow. Tonearm assembly and mount are also repainted to yellow as well as the platters and pitch knobs. Strobe, 33/45 and pitch indicator LEDs were replaced with super bright yellow as well as converted Pop-up lamps fitted with super bright white LEDs. RCA cables and connectors replaced with internal grounding and tonearms rebuilt and calibrated to factory setting. Both units were also installed with new tonearm clips. The rubber base were repainted to flat black. Pitch controls calibrated and applied with new silver aluminum pitch decal ornaments. Platter refaced (3-step) and repainted, Pitch control knobs repainted because the original color have faded already. Switch assembly (Switch, start/stop, 33/45 buttons) and PCBs cleaned. Pivot bearings and motor spindle lubricated.

Before and after pics below.

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Jun 23, 2015 at 12:00 PM
Electric Blue

The main diecast frame, tonearm sections, pitch knob and headshell are finished in Electric Blue glossy polyurethane automotive paint. Rubber base also repainted to flat black as well as tonearm plate mount and platter, which was also re-faced (3-step). All LEDs of the strobe, 33/45 and pitch indicator are installed with super bright blue. The stock pop-up lamp was converted and fitted with super bright blue LED as well. RCA and cables replaced with heavy duty and high grade type with internal grounding. Tonearm assembly rebuilt, pivot bearings lubricated and calibrated, spindle lubricated, pitch control calibrated, and internal circuitry cleaned. Applied black pitch decal ornament. Power supply converted from 110v to 220v. Lastly, intsalled under platter halo with power supply that turns on together with the unit.

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: vvvince2 on Jun 24, 2015 at 09:15 PM
Looking For:
Audio Technica LP60
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Jul 08, 2015 at 04:19 PM
Walter Zamora's Fire Red 1200s

This is actually the first pair of 1200s that I painted in fire red which is very close to Ferrari's signature color. Usual Works1200 finished with automotive polyurethane paint on the main diecast frame, tonearms sections and platter. All LEDs replaced with new red ones except for the converted pop-up lamps which were fitted with super bright white. New silver aluminum pitch decals applied, tonearms calibrated as well as pitch controls. RCA cables and connectors replaced. Motor spindle lubricated and tonearm pivot bearing as well.

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: JoeyGS on Jul 09, 2015 at 09:05 AM
Great job as usual!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Jul 09, 2015 at 06:29 PM
Great job as usual!

Thank you! :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Qman on Jul 11, 2015 at 07:54 PM
My rega 1 Cartridge needle is broken, please recommend a replacement and if with price range na rin sana
Thanks mga Guru
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Jul 13, 2015 at 08:30 PM
1200 to 1210

Repainted from silver to original SL1210 color (very dark charcoal grey) using automotive polyurethane paint on the main diecast frame, and tonearm section. Rubber base, pitch knob, tonearm mounting plate are painted in flat black. Replaced pitch control with new one. RCA cables and connectors replaced with internal grounding. All LEDS are fitted with super bright white including converted pop-up lamp. Platter repainted and re-faced. Tonearm calibrated to factory setting. All PCBs cleaned and motor spindle lubricated. Applied new limited edition aluminum pitch decal (for MK6 models).

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:)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: hekelef on Jul 14, 2015 at 08:28 AM
For sale?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Jul 20, 2015 at 05:35 PM
Another Clean Look 1200 - July 2015

This deck was done in basic clean look. Finished in original silver 1200 color for the main diecast frame and tonearm section. Rubber base repainted, platter repainted and re-faced (3-step). All LEDs are fiitted with super bright blue as well as the converted pop-up lamp. Tonearm pivot bearing lubricated as well as the motor spindle. Tonearm calibrated to factory setting, pitch control calibrated, PCBs cleaned and applied with 1210 black aluminum pitch decal. RCA cables and connectors replaced. Wet sanded the scratches on the dust cover and buffed.

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: neilc on Jul 20, 2015 at 10:19 PM
Is this for sale?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sovrain on Jul 20, 2015 at 11:56 PM
danda....
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Dollarman on Jul 21, 2015 at 02:39 PM
Is this for sale?

Bro pm mo si rene rivo mayron sya mga sl1200 from time to time.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Jul 21, 2015 at 05:29 PM
Is this for sale?

Nope. It was serviced for a client.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Jul 31, 2015 at 09:32 PM
Mikhail's 12s

Original decks are SL-1210MK2 (European version). Main diecast frames are finished in flat white and tone arm sections, mount and rubber bases are finished in flat black. Platters are repainted and re-faced (3-step). All LEDs are fitted with super bright white including the converted pop-up lamps. RCA cables and connectors replaced with internal grounding. Applied black pitch decals, Main PCB cleaned as well as switch assembly and pitch PCB. Tonearms caibrated and pivot bearings lubricated. Pitch controls calibrated and motor spindles lubricated.

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(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/5822563_orig.jpg)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: jerrylodi on Aug 03, 2015 at 11:19 AM
My new TT  ;D

Super smooth Technics SL-1200MK3D ( stock )  ;)  >:D

(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j450/jerryidol/Mobile%20Uploads/20150728_204455_zpsozmethkx.jpg)
(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j450/jerryidol/Mobile%20Uploads/20150728_205306_zpsgwdvbsim.jpg)

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Aug 03, 2015 at 11:42 AM
My new TT  ;D

Super smooth Technics SL-1200MK3D ( stock )  ;)  >:D

(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j450/jerryidol/Mobile%20Uploads/20150728_204455_zpsozmethkx.jpg)
(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j450/jerryidol/Mobile%20Uploads/20150728_205306_zpsgwdvbsim.jpg)



Congratulations! :D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: remington on Aug 03, 2015 at 09:09 PM
My new TT  ;D

Super smooth Technics SL-1200MK3D ( stock )  ;)  >:D

(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j450/jerryidol/Mobile%20Uploads/20150728_204455_zpsozmethkx.jpg)
(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j450/jerryidol/Mobile%20Uploads/20150728_205306_zpsgwdvbsim.jpg)


lupit sir iba ka talaga!!!! idol talaga hehehe!!!BRAND NEW OLD STOCK :o :o :o >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: jerrylodi on Aug 04, 2015 at 08:20 AM

lupit sir iba ka talaga!!!! idol talaga hehehe!!!BRAND NEW OLD STOCK :o :o :o >:D >:D >:D
[/quote] thanks sir jhun, mismo, complete accessories din, nka tsamba lang hehehe ;) :)

Congratulations! :D
[/quote]Thanks Sir Jen  :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dana on Aug 04, 2015 at 12:03 PM
galeng.
care to share san mo natisod yang NOS na yan?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Aug 04, 2015 at 12:10 PM
JACK na JACK! JACKPOT! :D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: rochie on Aug 04, 2015 at 12:17 PM
saan pwedeng makabili ng acrylic cover for technics TT? same lang ba ng size ang mga models ng technics? or magkakaiba din depende sa model?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: neilc on Aug 04, 2015 at 12:49 PM
galeng.
care to share san mo natisod yang NOS na yan?
+1. Looking also for one.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: jerrylodi on Aug 04, 2015 at 04:44 PM
referral lng mga bossing, friends of friends , inuubos n lang dw po stocks sa japan,  may kapatid pa dw n black model to, kung ppalarin at dumating swerte po tyo
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Aug 04, 2015 at 06:48 PM
Congrats on the new 1200 sir jerry. The MK3D is the best variant of 1200. A no nonsense 1200. :)

saan pwedeng makabili ng acrylic cover for technics TT? same lang ba ng size ang mga models ng technics? or magkakaiba din depende sa model?
Dust covers of the 1200 will fit on all models. But MK3D/M3D, MK5, MK5G/M5G, and MK6 models don't have hinges mount. The mount plates at the back also needs to be modified or replaced. Also the dust cover hinges are sold separately from the cover itself.

PM me, I can help you find one.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: jerrylodi on Aug 05, 2015 at 09:30 AM
Congrats on the new 1200 sir jerry. The MK3D is the best variant of 1200. A no nonsense 1200. :

thanks sir nicadraus, if you don't mind, kindly save my no. po for future upgrade, pero eenjoy ko muna po stock hehehe, actually sa inyo po ako hanga, galing na mga modifiactions nyo, the best  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Aug 16, 2015 at 02:43 PM
The Grey Market's 1210

Another full refurbishment job on these decks for The Grey Market shop. Repainted in original 1210 color (dark charcoal grey). Replaced all LEDs to original color - Super bright red for strobe, red for 33/45 rpm and original green for pitch indicator. Pop-up lamp was converted to super bright white LED. Tonearm sections also painted, rebuilt and calibrated. Tonearm pivot bearings lubricated. Platters scraped, repainted and re-faced (3-step). RCA & cables replaced with internal ground, all PCBs cleaned and motor spindles lubricated. Applied new aluminum pitch decals (black with gold markings for MK6 model).

Before and after pics below.

Before:
(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/8035600_orig.jpg)

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/2044319_orig.jpg)

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After:
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(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/8786617_orig.jpg)

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(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/5147455_orig.jpg)

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/9709536_orig.jpg)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Aug 17, 2015 at 07:01 PM
Super Gloss 1200

Full refurbishment job. Repainted the main diecast frame & tonearm sections to super gloss metallic black (MK5G/M5G color) with polyurethane automotive paint. Repainted rubber base, tonearm mount & platter with flat black polyurethane paint. Platter was also re-faced (3-step). Strobe, 33/45 and pitch indicator were installed with super bright white LEDs including the converted pop-up lamp. Replaced RCA cables and connectors with internal ground. Tonearm pivot bearings and motor spindle lubricated. Tonearm calibrated, pitch control calibrated and all PCBs cleaned. Applied original 1210 aluminum pitch decal, black with white markings. This unit came with a different low-ampere power supply so it was also installed with an original one (220v).

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/2979130_orig.jpg)

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/6064776_orig.jpg)

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Aug 25, 2015 at 08:59 AM
A Cat's Chromed 1200s

A brief story:

When they arrived, these decks were awful. First thing I noticed was the smell. They stunk. Then I figured after a closer inspection. They've been a home to a cat. Because both decks had cat fur all over. As I took off the platters and opened them up, there were spoiled cat piss and crap inside.

So here's what's been done to these 1200s:

Scraped the main frames and were chrome plated. One tonearm assembly had been replaced because all pivot screws, tonearm height adjuster and mount were severely stuck due to corrosion (from the dried cat piss). Switch (start/stop, 33/45) assembly (including PCB, tack switches and switch knob) was also replaced on one unit as well as the pitch control which was corroded and beyond calibration. Platters were scraped, re-faced, repainted and re-faced again. One pop-up lamp assembly was also replaced. Since both pop-up lamps were also corroded, the covers were refaced and repainted to flat black including the pop-up lamp guides. Tonearm sections were repainted to glossy metallic black. Rubber base repainted to flat black. New RCA cables and connectors were installed with internal ground. One tonearm clip replaced. All LEDs were also replaced. Super bright blue on the strobe, yellow on the 33/45 and pitch indicators, and super bright white on the converted pop-up lamps. Applied new silver aluminum pitch decals. Tonearms calibrated and lubricated pivot bearings as well as motor spindle, Pitch controls calibrated. These decks also came with a different set of power supplies with very low ampere. Both units were installed with original power supplies. Lastly these decks also didn't have resin isolation. So both were installed.

See before and after pictures below.

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/6364584_orig.jpg)

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/1039179_orig.jpg)

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Aug 29, 2015 at 11:37 AM
Now available (for Works1200 refurbishements only). Decals not sold separately.

Original Technics 1200 labels

Laser printed water-slide decals and sealed with clear top coat to protect them from peeling off. Also the top coat hides the seam lines which are almost invisible.

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/1639097_orig.jpg)

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Sep 03, 2015 at 07:47 PM
White Mark 2

Main diecast frame finished in flat white with original Technics logo and labels. Tonearm section, tonearm mount and rubber base, pitch knob and pop-up lamp guide are finished in flat black. All used with automotive polyurethane paints. All Lights are fitted with super bright white LEDs. RCA cables replaced with internal ground. Black aluminum pitch decal applied, Pitch control caalibrated and lubed with Deoxit (Fader). Tonearm calibrated to factory setting. Tonearm pivot bearings lubrictaed as well as the motor spindle. All PCBs cleaned. Platter refaced and repainted. Start/Stop, 33/45 buttons have been replaced due to very bad condition.

Before and after pics below:

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/49178_orig.jpg)

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/7673941_orig.jpg)

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Sep 03, 2015 at 07:54 PM
Resurrected 1200 MK2 (labelled)

Here's the 4th pair we finished for Frankie Cortez.

One unit was a 1200 MK2 while the other was a 1210 MK2. Restored back to original silver MK2 with original Technics logo and labels. Main diecast frames and tonearm sections are repainted to original MK2 silver. Rubber base to flat black. Platters scraped, ref-faced and repainted. All used with automotive polyurethane paints. Strobes are fitted with Super bright red LEDs. 33/45 fitted with 5mm red LEDs for better illumination (stock was 3mm). Pop-up lamps converted to super bright white LEDs. Pitch indicator fitted with super bright green LEDs and defused. High grade RCA cables and connectors installed with internal ground. Tonearms calibrated to factory setting. Pitch controls calibrated and applied with Deoxit (Fader). One deck was missing some parts such were: pitch control assembly (pitch control, pitch PCB and pitch knob), tonearm clip, and tonearm counter weight. So all these parts were provided to complete the deck. New silver aluminum pitch decals applied.

See before and after pics below.

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/6827031_orig.jpg)

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Oct 01, 2015 at 09:04 AM
Bling Bling 1200s (chromed including tonearm sections)

One unit is a 1200 MK5 while the other is 1200 MK3. Main diecast frames and tonearm sections are mirror chrome finish. Rubber base and tonearm mounts are finished in flat black. Platters scraped, ref-faced and repainted. Strobes, 33/45, pop-up lamps and pitch indicators are also fitted with super bright blue LEDs. High grade RCA cables and connectors installed with internal ground. Tonearms calibrated to factory setting. Pitch controls calibrated and applied with Deoxit (Fader). New silver aluminum pitch decals applied.

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/4567698_orig.jpg)

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Oct 01, 2015 at 09:08 AM
Owen's MK Too

​Main diecast frames and tonearm sections are finished in original 1200 MK2 silver complete with labels. All lights are fitted with super bright white LEDs (strobe, 33/45, pop-up lamp, pitch indicator). New RCA cables and connectors with internal ground. Tonearms calibrated and pivot bearings lubricated. Pitch control calibrated with Deoxit lubrication. Platters re-faced and repainted. Rubber base repainted as well as tonearm mount to flat black. New silver aluminum pitch decals applied.

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/5677361_orig.jpg)

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Oct 29, 2015 at 09:46 PM
Gary's M5G

These decks have gone through a full maintenance service and some modification work.
Everything cleaned thoroughly. Main frame, internals, PCBs, switches, tonearm assembly, platters, rubber base, legs, etc. Pitch controls cleaned and lubricated with Deoxit. Tonearms calibrated and lubricated pivot bearings. Ground wire eliminated and internally grounded. Retained original RCA cables since they are still in excellent condition. Motor spindle cleaned and lubricated. Stock strobe LEDS are replaced with bright red. 33 LED to super bright blue and 45 to super bright red. Stock pop-up lamp replaced to super bright blue with front firing position and pitch indicator replaced to super bright white. All buttons (start/stop, 33/45, reset, pitch range) and pitch knobs coats have started to peel. So everything mentioned were repainted to original M5G stock color. Hand paint traced the markings to black and top coated the buttons and knobs to clear flat paint. Under platter halo installed with power supply. Pitch plate polished as well as the dust covers.

See before and after pics below.

Before:

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After:

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Oct 29, 2015 at 09:54 PM
Bacolod Bound - SL-1200 W12 (Works1200 edition)
Top main diecast frame is finished in flat white polyurethane paint with flat based clear coat. Labels are also applied. Tonearm sections are finished in glossy jet black. Pitch knob, pop-up lamp guard and rubber base are finished in flat black. Platter was scraped, repainted and 3-step refaced. Strobe, 33/45 and pitch indicator LEDs have been replaced with super bright blue. While the pop-up lamp has been converted from ordinary bulb to super bright white LED. Tonearm calibrated with pivot bearings lubrication. Pitch control calibrated and lubricated with Deoxit. New aluminum pitch decal for MK6 (black with gold markings) applied. New high grade RCA cable and connectors installed with internal grounding.

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/4507509_orig.jpg)

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/933576_orig.jpg)

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Oct 29, 2015 at 10:06 PM
SL-1200 - Reborn

Fully refurbished and restored back to original SL-1200 MK2 complete with labels.
Main diecast frame and tonearm sections are finished in original silver. Platter scraped, repainted and 3-step re-faced. All LEDs have been replaced. Strobe, 33/45 are replaced with bright red LEDs. Pop-up lamp converted to super bright white LED. Pitch indicator installed with bright green LED. Installed new aluminum pitch decal ornament (silver). New pitch control knob, Replaced pitch control with a new one as well. RCA cables and connectors replaced with high grade one and internally grounded. 33/45 tach switches have also been replaced because the one ones are stuck already due to dirt & corrosion.

See before & after pictures below.

Before:

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/7241559_orig.jpg)

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/6906894_orig.jpg)

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(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/1109455_orig.jpg)

New parts:

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/1201285_orig.jpg)

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/7434104_orig.jpg)

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After:

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/4938917_orig.jpg)

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: JoeyGS on Nov 03, 2015 at 05:55 PM
Great job!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Jakob on Nov 04, 2015 at 12:18 PM
Pioneer PL 30, I just saw this at the mall. Any local review/s? Price at 17k.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: muypogi on Nov 15, 2015 at 06:50 PM
Semi-impulse purchase at the November Hifi Show . . .

(http://www.musicdirect.com/images/product/large/AREGATTQUEEN.jpg)

(http://www.musicdirect.com/images/product/large/aregattqueen_1_.jpg)

Thanks to the Rega guys for a nice price and being the reliable sulsultants . . .  O0
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Nov 15, 2015 at 06:57 PM
Congrats! Pabulong naman haha! Had lunch with the 2 Rega guys yesterday...maganda nga presyo niyan!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: muypogi on Nov 15, 2015 at 07:14 PM
Congrats! Pabulong naman haha! Had lunch with the 2 Rega guys yesterday...maganda nga presyo niyan!

Eto lang kaya ko idol pamalit sa vintage Pioneer idler ko.  Thinking of swapping my Ortofon Red for the installed Rega Carbon.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sovrain on Nov 15, 2015 at 07:20 PM
Sa ganda nga ng looks TT na yan, tiyak, maganda rin ang presyo ;D congrats sir...tulo laway ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: muypogi on Nov 15, 2015 at 07:24 PM
Sa ganda nga ng looks TT na yan, tiyak, maganda rin ang presyo ;D congrats sir...tulo laway ;D

Not that expensive bro . . . the base table is an RP1 with a 24V motor. . . but limited to only 2000 tables worldwide, so order now!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: junji on Nov 21, 2015 at 07:40 PM
Mga sir, san ba pwede bumili locally ng headshell, cartridge and other turntables accessories i.e. for Technics? Thanks.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: JoeyGS on Nov 21, 2015 at 09:44 PM
PM Nicadraus

Mga sir, san ba pwede bumili locally ng headshell, cartridge and other turntables accessories i.e. for Technics? Thanks.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: remington on Nov 22, 2015 at 12:18 AM
Vinyl dump sa cubao expo may mga parts ng technics sir edit post sir hindi pala sa vinyl dump sa gold digger sa cubao expo din pala meron ^-^
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: junji on Nov 22, 2015 at 02:25 PM
Thanks JoeyGS and remington for the info.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: junji on Nov 22, 2015 at 04:53 PM
Planning to upgrade the cart in the future and eyeing either of the following for my acquired 2nd hand Technics SL-1800 MkII: Grado Green1, Shure M97 XE, Audio-Technica 95E or Sumiko Oyster in less than 100usd range. Ano sa palagay nyo mas maganda sa mga nakagamit na? TIA.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Nov 22, 2015 at 07:37 PM
Have tried GRADO Green long ago (w/c was my very 1st Cartridge) & also the Shure M97xE Audiophile w/c for me is better sounding, the dynamics are wider. But others here may have also some backgrounds for the SUMIKO & AT95E. HTH
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: muypogi on Dec 10, 2015 at 10:07 PM
Tweak to improve the sound . . . Thanks to Nick of Rega for helping out in the cart change. Ortofon Red is much better detail, warmth vs stock Rega Carbon. . .


(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/10/2c4165863c8b6e17351b46a421c5f669.jpg)

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/10/15c379ea256a116db9af36da9255ba2a.jpg)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Dec 13, 2015 at 06:13 PM
Tweak to improve the sound . . . Thanks to Nick of Rega for helping out in the cart change. Ortofon Red is much better detail, warmth vs stock Rega Carbon. . .


(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/10/2c4165863c8b6e17351b46a421c5f669.jpg)

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/10/15c379ea256a116db9af36da9255ba2a.jpg)

Wow! Iba talaga!! Walang-wala ah! :)
Title: Turntable Part 2
Post by: muypogi on Dec 13, 2015 at 08:22 PM
Idol yung Ortofon galing yan sa naka-stock na table ko. . . Sayang kung hindi nagagamit.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: jon_Espiritu on Jan 07, 2016 at 07:54 PM
Hello good evening, bumili po ako ng  cartridge ng RP1 ko (nasira kasi ng daughter ko yung needle) still the stock one (carbon), unfortunately  nawala ko yung , rega rp1 cartridge alignment protractor.  Sana me makatulong po sakin na makapag send sakin ng scanned copy ng protractor then print ko na lang . Or any sites po na pwede ko I download or advise po kung pano ko I align yung cartridge ko . Thanks.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Jan 07, 2016 at 07:58 PM
^ http://www.vinylengine.com/cartridge-alignment-protractors.shtml
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Jan 09, 2016 at 11:05 AM
Hager's 1200 Elegance

Newly refurbished pair for my good friend, Peter Hager.

Main diecast frame and tonearm sections finished in flat black. Topped with flat clear coat. Strobe, 33/45 & pitch indicators are fitted with super bright blue LEDs and pop-up lamp converted to super bright white LED. Platter re-faced (3-step), rubber base repainted. Tonearm calibrated to factory setting and pivot bearings lubricated as well as motor spindle. Pitch control calibrated and lubricated with Deoxit. New RCA cables and connectors installed with internal ground. Applied new aluminum pitch decal, black with gold markings, dust covers buffed and PCBs cleaned.

Before and after pics below:

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/6438056_orig.jpg)

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/6966074_orig.jpg)

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/3779458_orig.jpg)

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Jan 22, 2016 at 10:47 PM
Chromium 1200

The 7th chrome project I did.

Main diecast frame plate and tonearm sections are done chrome plated mirror finish. Strobe, 33/45 & pitch indicator are fitted with super bright blue LEDs while pop-up lamp converted and fitted with super bright white. New RCA cables and connectors installed. Calibrated tonearm and lubricated pivot bearings. Calibrated pitch control with DeOxit lubrication. Rubber base and toneame mount plate are repainted to flat black. Platter re-faced and repainted. Installed new aluminum black pitch decal with gold markings (MK6 version). All circuit boards cleaned as well as switch assembly.

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/960098_orig.jpg)

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/1628062_orig.jpg)

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(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/3394165_orig.jpg)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Jan 23, 2016 at 06:41 AM
Elegant!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Jan 24, 2016 at 06:08 PM
Elegant!

Thank you!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: junbathan on Jan 29, 2016 at 06:18 AM
What is better for newbies to purchase, a Rega RP1 or Japan surplus vintage Sansui? Lets discuss about sound quality, maintenance, parts availability and resale value. Thanks PDVD.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: muypogi on Jan 29, 2016 at 06:44 AM
What is better for newbies to purchase, a Rega RP1 or Japan surplus vintage Sansui? Lets discuss about sound quality, maintenance, parts availability and resale value. Thanks PDVD.

I've gone the route of vintage tables, and of course if you can find a nice mint/working direct drive table that would ideal.

Of course, if you want instant reliability and want it fuss free, a Rega RP-1 would be your best bet. I have Queen turntable that is based on the RP-1 (but with an RP-3) motor and coupled with an Ortofon Red cart, sounds the same if not a bit better than my vintage idler Pioneer (when it was running properly).

SQ for me depends more on the cart and phono stage rather than the table, if we are talking about this price range (eg RP-1 vs vintage).
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: choyb on Jan 29, 2016 at 07:11 AM
I've gone the route of vintage tables, and of course if you can find a nice mint/working direct drive table that would ideal.

Of course, if you want instant reliability and want it fuss free, a Rega RP-1 would be your best bet. I have Queen turntable that is based on the RP-1 (but with an RP-3) motor and coupled with an Ortofon Red cart, sounds the same if not a bit better than my vintage idler Pioneer (when it was running properly).

SQ for me depends more on the cart and phono stage rather than the table, if we are talking about this price range (eg RP-1 vs vintage).
+1 Totally agree with this.
Of course, what you can do as suggested, is audition both the Rega & the vintage TT.
Depending on your location, I am sure members would be glad to help you audition their Rega and/ or Vintage TT.

If you're anywhere near San Juan pm me.
Good luck.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: junbathan on Jan 29, 2016 at 08:27 AM
Thanks very helpful advise...
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dudong on Jan 29, 2016 at 09:09 AM
It takes a lot of dedication if you plan on exploring the world of vinyl.

Is it for you? Only you can answer that.

I suggest you buy a common/safe tt like the rp1 (may goldring pa ba?), if you like vinyl you can easily dispose of it and upgrade. If you dont, Im sure someone here in the forum would be happy to buy them from you.

Im not sure you can do this with a vintage japanese tt... but if its a 301, a 124 or a Lenco then its another story.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: junbathan on Jan 29, 2016 at 09:41 AM
I have used vinyl's until late 1980's (with my dad's system) and my wife inherited vinyls collection since 1930's from his late uncle. I have at least some idea on how they work but was left behind (30 yrs behind).
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dudong on Jan 29, 2016 at 09:56 AM
Thats good to know sir. I was basing my comments on the word newbie.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Jan 29, 2016 at 01:20 PM
I have a different experience.
If the entry point is Rega RP1, I had a better experience with Vintage tables, not Sansui but in Technics and Denon.
- vintage with a N447 sounded more soulful on older records.

If the entry point is Rega RP3(heavy platter) with Red Ortofon then it is a long term turntable for vocals and jazz. I believe SL-1200 still is the table to beat for Rock.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: junbathan on Jan 29, 2016 at 01:55 PM
Is Rega service and parts fully supported in PH?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Jan 29, 2016 at 05:35 PM
If purchased from an Authorized Dealer, Yes.
Is Rega service and parts fully supported in PH?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Feb 03, 2016 at 01:53 AM
para sure ka sir sa reliability at parts availability at may magaling pang gumawa, technics 1200 mk2 na lang ang hanapin nyo. tapos m447 lang na shure ang cart nyo. sa halangang 20k may very reliable ka ng turntable. ang bilis pang ibenta ng 1200 pag ayaw mo na, promise! ;D ;D


 
I have used vinyl's until late 1980's (with my dad's system) and my wife inherited vinyls collection since 1930's from his late uncle. I have at least some idea on how they work but was left behind (30 yrs behind).
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dana on Feb 03, 2016 at 10:01 AM
para sure ka sir sa reliability at parts availability at may magaling pang gumawa, technics 1200 mk2 na lang ang hanapin nyo. tapos m447 lang na shure ang cart nyo. sa halangang 20k may very reliable ka ng turntable. ang bilis pang ibenta ng 1200 pag ayaw mo na, promise! ;D ;D

 

+1...very good & accurate tracking. all around performer.
kaya nga legend.

nice vintage tts, also sings with me well. try mo junb & grab one, if you have the chance
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: junbathan on Feb 03, 2016 at 01:27 PM
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160203/2d384db7a2cafcc6be67c08a25f2e4c6.jpg) Finally after contemplating on what to get, I went to the vintage path due to limited funds and I love vintage items since I want my system to be as simple as possible and believe that vintage units are made to last due to its simplicity of design and less or to no electronic parts. Also rather than spending funds on expensive turntable I will use it in getting a good headset. Thanks PDVD.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dana on Feb 03, 2016 at 01:30 PM
wow naman.
ganda naman pala eh.
what model sir, is that a pioneer brand?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: junbathan on Feb 03, 2016 at 02:03 PM
It's a Sansui 2050, 1970's era.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Feb 03, 2016 at 10:17 PM
para sure ka sir sa reliability at parts availability at may magaling pang gumawa, technics 1200 mk2 na lang ang hanapin nyo. tapos m447 lang na shure ang cart nyo. sa halangang 20k may very reliable ka ng turntable. ang bilis pang ibenta ng 1200 pag ayaw mo na, promise! ;D ;D

Tumpak!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: romeoalltheway on Feb 05, 2016 at 02:12 AM
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160204/7c77f86ea3ac51df380dbbc93fdfab9f.jpg) sharing with you my newly acquired Project Essential II.  I've used it only a couple of days but beats my old Denon DP 300 right off the box. Happy camper here.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Feb 10, 2016 at 05:23 PM
Illuminated Pearl 1200

Original decks are SL1200 MK3D (Japanese release). Main diecast frames and tonearm sections are repainted in pearl white with blueish shade glossy finish. Platter are scraped, repainted to flat white and re-faced (3-step). All LEDs are fitted with super bright white including converted pop-up lamp. Under-platter halo installed. Pitch control calibrated and lubricated with DeOxit. Tonearms calibrated to factory setting and pivot bearings lubricated. All parts cleaned including PCBs. Motor spindle cleaned and lubricated. New RCA & cables and connectors with internal ground. New aluminum pitch decals applied (black with gold markings).

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/2279046_orig.jpg)

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/6100602_orig.jpg)

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(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/5051628_orig.jpg)

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/862868_orig.jpg)

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/8728232_orig.jpg)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: aponimangbayani on Feb 14, 2016 at 07:29 PM
Meron po akong Motorino MK II at hindi niya po na nailalabas yung buong tunong ng rubber soul at sgt peppers album ko(minsan ay kulang ng instrumento, minsan second voice lamang po ang meron, minsan mas malakas ang instrumento kaysa sa boses). bakit po kaya ito nangyayari? Maraming salamat po!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: jaypy08 on Feb 28, 2016 at 05:49 PM

Meron po akong Motorino MK II at hindi niya po na nailalabas yung buong tunong ng rubber soul at sgt peppers album ko(minsan ay kulang ng instrumento, minsan second voice lamang po ang meron, minsan mas malakas ang instrumento kaysa sa boses). bakit po kaya ito nangyayari? Maraming salamat po!
Just return it and have it repaired. Looks like the mk2 suffers from faulty speaker wiring.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Hammerheart on Feb 29, 2016 at 01:56 AM
Or buy a proper turntable. :)

Just return it and have it repaired. Looks like the mk2 suffers from faulty speaker wiring.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Hammerheart on Feb 29, 2016 at 01:58 AM
As for me, i prefer the vintage japanese tables than contemporary ones. Proper set up i.e. Alignment, tracking force etc. is a must if you really wanna enjoy your vinyls. :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: eliahp on Feb 29, 2016 at 11:32 PM
Hi guys!

I just bought my first turntable (RP-1) and a plaka. Ang sarap pala talaga sa tenga ang vinyl. Di nakakapagod pakinggan.

Quick question lang, what should I look for when buying my vinyls? I heard merong mga Japanese pressings etc.. original.. re-issue? Paano ko malalaman  kung saan country pressed?/made yung plaka?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: shuttertrigger on Mar 01, 2016 at 03:35 AM
What is the recommended but not too pricey p-mount cartridge? Thanks.  ;)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: jerrylodi on Mar 01, 2016 at 10:13 AM
I have a different experience.
If the entry point is Rega RP1, I had a better experience with Vintage tables, not Sansui but in Technics and Denon.
- vintage with a N447 sounded more soulful on older records.

If the entry point is Rega RP3(heavy platter) with Red Ortofon then it is a long term turntable for vocals and jazz. I believe SL-1200 still is the table to beat for Rock.
TUMPAK, parang based on my experience ko ito ahhh, changed my rega TT to japanese table SL1200, massive iprovement on my rock set up  >:D , naka smile pa wallet ko  O0
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: junji on Mar 01, 2016 at 10:39 PM
I have shure m97xe and audio technica at95, nilampaso ng mas mura yung mas mahal. Sinunod ko lahat ng allignment and specs requirement nunnikinabit ko. Mas malakas din ang pickup ng AT compare to shure.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: shuttertrigger on Mar 05, 2016 at 05:30 AM
I have shure m97xe and audio technica at95, nilampaso ng mas mura yung mas mahal. Sinunod ko lahat ng allignment and specs requirement nunnikinabit ko. Mas malakas din ang pickup ng AT compare to shure.

Thanks sir
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: regulus on Apr 08, 2016 at 10:47 AM
Ei Turntable Brothers need a new belt for my Pioneer pl30 any ideas where I can get one?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Apr 08, 2016 at 01:23 PM
Ei Turntable Brothers need a new belt for my Pioneer pl30 any ideas where I can get one?

kung wala kang makitang replacement, hanap ka sir sa mga tindahan ng oilseals. hanap ka ng kaparehong diameter nung original, ayos na yan. kung wala talaga, pwede ka magpagawa sa simplex (binondo) ng exato sa sukat mo.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: regulus on Apr 09, 2016 at 07:54 PM
Ordered a couple of belts from Amazon $9 each for the phono preamp ok ba ung cambridge 551p bnew for 4600
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: jerrylodi on May 27, 2016 at 01:57 PM
Sir Dodie PM Sent tia po
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Jun 22, 2016 at 02:25 AM
It's been a while since I last posted here. Here are some updates:

March 2016

​White 1200-W12 - Norman Rodrigo

​Another full refurbishment finished in glossy white with complete labels. Usual Works1200 refurbishment with all white super bright LEDs.

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Jun 22, 2016 at 02:27 AM
March 2016

Back to the Past - SL1200 MK2

A pair of MK2s full refurbishment. Main diecast frame and tonearm sections are finished in original SL1200 MK2 silver with labels. All LEDs replaced with original colors except pop-up lamp. Super bright red for strobo, bright red for 33/45, flushed green for pitch indicator and super bright white for converted pop-up lamp. New aluminum silver pitch decals applied. New RCA cables & connectors installed with internal grounding. Platter repainted and re-faced. Pitch knobs repainted. Rubber base repainted. All parts thoroughly cleaned. Tonearm rebuilt and calibrated to factory setting, pivot bearings cleaned and lubricated. Motor spindle assembly cleaned and lubricated, Pitch controls cleaned, lubricated with DeOxit and calibrated.

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Jun 22, 2016 at 02:33 AM
May 2016

Black Mamba 1200

Refurbished and changed color to original 1210 (dark charcoal grey). All LEDs replaced with super bright white. RCA cables and connectors replaced with internal ground. Platters refaced and repainted. Installed new tonearm rest clips, new aluminum pitch decals (black with gold markings). Replaced tonearm swivel bridge on one unit as well as pivot screws. Tonearm rebuilt and calibrated to factory setting. Pivot screws lubricated. Pitch control calibrated and lubricated with DeOxit.

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Jun 22, 2016 at 02:38 AM
Back To The Past Too
Restored and modified an SL1200 MK2 - Jay Gatchalian

Main diecast frame and tonearm sections are finished in original SL1200 MK2 silver with labels. All LEDs replaced. Super bright blue for strobo, super bright white for 33/45, flushed super bright white for pitch indicator and super bright white for converted pop-up lamp. New aluminum silver pitch decals applied. New RCA cables & connectors installed with internal grounding. Platter repainted and re-faced. Pitch knobs repainted. Rubber base repainted. All parts thoroughly cleaned. Tonearm rebuilt and calibrated to factory setting, pivot bearings cleaned and lubricated. Motor spindle assembly cleaned and lubricated, Pitch controls cleaned, lubricated with DeOxit and calibrated.

​Before and after pics below.

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Jun 22, 2016 at 02:41 AM
June 2016

MK3D-K

Main diecast frames and tonearm sections finished in very dark charcoal grey. Rubber base repainted to flat black. All using polyurethane automotive paint. All LEDs have been replaced with original colors but modified LEDs. Super bright red for strobo, bright red for 33/45, pop-up lamps converted to super bright white LEDs. Black aluminum pitch decals. Pitch controls cleaned and calibrated with DeOxit lubrication. All tonearm parts are thoroughly cleaned and pivot bearings lubricated. Tonearms assembled back and calibrated to factory setting . All PCBs clean as well as switch/start-stop assembly. High quality RCA connectors replaced with internal grounding mod. Platters repainted and 3-step re-faced.

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: -mhan- on Jun 27, 2016 at 11:30 AM
Again, thank you sir.

It's been a while since I last posted here. Here are some updates:

March 2016

​White 1200-W12 - Norman Rodrigo

​Another full refurbishment finished in glossy white with complete labels. Usual Works1200 refurbishment with all white super bright LEDs.

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/463473_orig.jpg)

(http://works1200.weebly.com/uploads/8/1/5/7/8157023/7915584_orig.jpg)

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: banesto on Jul 15, 2016 at 02:51 PM

Is SL 1200 mk5 better than mk2 and mk3? Masyado kasi mahal ang mk5. What is the difference between them? Thanks
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: -mhan- on Jul 15, 2016 at 04:14 PM
Is SL 1200 mk5 better than mk2 and mk3? Masyado kasi mahal ang mk5. What is the difference between them? Thanks

limited edition(gold) sl1200 na hanapin mo sir sigurado di mo na bibitawan yun.

to answer your question, mas ok tlaga mk5 kasi mas modelo, pero kung mas available ang mk3 ok na yun. :D nagkakatalo nalang sa cart at stylus >:D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: banesto on Jul 15, 2016 at 04:56 PM
limited edition(gold) sl1200 na hanapin mo sir sigurado di mo na bibitawan yun.

to answer your question, mas ok tlaga mk5 kasi mas modelo, pero kung mas available ang mk3 ok na yun. :D nagkakatalo nalang sa cart at stylus >:D
Hirap maghanap ng mk2 o mk3 ngaun.

limited edition(gold) sl1200 na hanapin mo sir sigurado di mo na bibitawan yun.

to answer your question, mas ok tlaga mk5 kasi mas modelo, pero kung mas available ang mk3 ok na yun. :D nagkakatalo nalang sa cart at stylus >:D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: -mhan- on Jul 15, 2016 at 05:10 PM
@banesto,

mayron sa olx sir
yung mk3d - 30k - cavite
yung mk2 - 16k - mandaluyong
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: banesto on Jul 15, 2016 at 09:48 PM
@banesto,

mayron sa olx sir
yung mk3d - 30k - cavite
yung mk2 - 16k - mandaluyong

YUng sa Cavite tinext ko nabili na raw sir..... Saan sa Mandaluyong yung mk2 sir? Pls PM me.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Jul 16, 2016 at 12:47 AM
Is SL 1200 mk5 better than mk2 and mk3? Masyado kasi mahal ang mk5. What is the difference between them? Thanks

ka ernie there's not much difference sa 2 and 5. add on fearures lang but not in terms of sonics...ang alam ko may digital pitch yung 5 na hindi mo naman kailangan unless gusto mong mag dj.... ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: banesto on Jul 16, 2016 at 06:18 AM
ka ernie there's not much difference sa 2 and 5. add on fearures lang but not in terms of sonics...ang alam ko may digital pitch yung 5 na hindi mo naman kailangan unless gusto mong mag dj.... ;D ;D ;D ;D
Maganda ba bos dodie ang sl 1200 mk1? Or hanap na lang ako ng mk2 or mk3?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dana on Jul 16, 2016 at 07:38 PM
mk1, yan ang pinaka orig ka ernie, puno't dulo ng lahat -mk2,3,4,5 mapa limited editionpa yan ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: banesto on Jul 16, 2016 at 09:34 PM
mk1, yan ang pinaka orig ka ernie, puno't dulo ng lahat -mk2,3,4,5 mapa limited editionpa yan ;D
Mas improve na raw mk2,3,4,5
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Jul 17, 2016 at 12:21 AM
Maganda ba bos dodie ang sl 1200 mk1? Or hanap na lang ako ng mk2 or mk3?

di ko pa naexperience yung mk1 eh. but ang diff is the arm saka walang  on the fly vta....actually boss ang achiles heel ng lahat ng 1200s' eh yung kanyang arm, but it can be moded naman easily. pero yung sa akin kuntento na ako sa stock arm...mk1 is good enough lalo na kung maganda presyo. pwede naman palitan ng mk2 arm later kung may makita ka....
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dana on Jul 17, 2016 at 08:07 AM
Mas improve na raw mk2,3,4,5

that will do at  di naman ganun ka demanding home playback requirements mo, unless mag ddj ka, nga ba?
may posted sa olx now, 9.5k, kay butch yta...
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: banesto on Jul 17, 2016 at 03:07 PM
that will do at  di naman ganun ka demanding home playback requirements mo, unless mag ddj ka, nga ba?
may posted sa olx now, 9.5k, kay butch yta...

For home use lang.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: banesto on Jul 17, 2016 at 03:08 PM
di ko pa naexperience yung mk1 eh. but ang diff is the arm saka walang  on the fly vta....actually boss ang achiles heel ng lahat ng 1200s' eh yung kanyang arm, but it can be moded naman easily. pero yung sa akin kuntento na ako sa stock arm...mk1 is good enough lalo na kung maganda presyo. pwede naman palitan ng mk2 arm later kung may makita ka....
Thanks bos dodie.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Jul 22, 2016 at 01:56 PM
mk1, yan ang pinaka orig ka ernie, puno't dulo ng lahat -mk2,3,4,5 mapa limited editionpa yan ;D

The original SL1200 isn't as good as the MK2 and up. First is tonearm design. The MK2 has been redesigned for better float and swivel. Second is the damping, third is the pitch control, fourth is the motor and the list goes on.

ka ernie there's not much difference sa 2 and 5. add on fearures lang but not in terms of sonics...ang alam ko may digital pitch yung 5 na hindi mo naman kailangan unless gusto mong mag dj.... ;D ;D ;D ;D

Dodie is right. But just a correction, the MK5 still have the same pitch control PCB layout as the MK3D. Not digital yet. Only the MK5g/M5g bro.

that will do at  di naman ganun ka demanding home playback requirements mo, unless mag ddj ka, nga ba?
may posted sa olx now, 9.5k, kay butch yta...


Still depends. the original 1200 have no parts available unlike the MK2 and up models. Besides, since ka Ernie will be investing on a Technics turntable, he'd better go for something that he can use (or sell) that has a good resale value. The 1200 MK2 (and up) have the best resale value among all turntables.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Jul 22, 2016 at 01:57 PM
Ka Ernie, I would suggest to find an MK3D (Japan)/M3D(US). It's actually the best 1200 variant of them all. The "no BS" 1200.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: banesto on Jul 23, 2016 at 06:47 PM
Ka Ernie, I would suggest to find an MK3D (Japan)/M3D(US). It's actually the best 1200 variant of them all. The "no BS" 1200.
Oo nga po sir....yun din talaga target ko. Salamat po sa advice.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: banesto on Jul 23, 2016 at 09:18 PM
Ka Ernie, I would suggest to find an MK3D (Japan)/M3D(US). It's actually the best 1200 variant of them all. The "no BS" 1200.
By the way sir what is the meaning of "no BS" 1200? Thanks po
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Aug 14, 2016 at 01:54 PM
The Fett 1200s

Here's a pair done for a fellow and avid Star Wars fan and a friend, Lopie Guzman of RSL. He especially requested that his deck were finished in a Star Wars theme, specifically, Boba Fett. An infamous and ruthless bounty hunter form the Star Wars universe.

- Repainted the main diecast frame to Boba Fett's green armor using polyurethane automotive paint.
- Special Fett logos were also painted on top of the base color of the main diecast frame.
- Platters were scraped, 3-step re-faced and repainted and added Fett helmet design.
- Tonearm sections were colored in different tones. Color tones from Boba Fett's Suit and armor. Grey, yellowish-orange and dark maroon.
- All painting are topped with clear coat matte finish to prevent them from fading and chipping.
- Tonearms were rebuilt, pivot bearings cleaned and lubricated. Calibrated to factory setting.
- New heavy duty, OFC RCA cables installed with internal grounding.
- Pitch controls cleaned and calibrated with DeOxit lubrication.
- All lights have been replaced with super bright white LEDs.
- New aluminum pitch decals were applied. Black with white markings.
- Rubber base repainted to flat black
- Applied Technics decals

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Aug 14, 2016 at 01:59 PM
Mark's Mark Two - July 2016

Usual Works1200 full refurbishment. Restored to original MK2 silver. Fitted with super bright blue LEDs in the strobo and pop-up lamps and amber LEDs for 33/45 & pitch indicators. New RCA cables and connectors with internal grounding. New pitch controls installed. New aluminum pitch decals (silver) applied.

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Sep 04, 2016 at 10:12 AM
TT's most indispensable tool, we're always relaxed & calm of not ending up our stylus to the path of destruction during listening sessions  ;D

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: tonedeaf on Sep 04, 2016 at 03:16 PM
^so definitely worth buying?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Sep 04, 2016 at 05:25 PM
^so definitely worth buying?

Yes Sir, we dont have to rush in getting out of the couch when the record is ending especially when we fall asleep
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: RastaSega on Oct 01, 2016 at 01:43 AM
hello everyone. I recently found an old turntable in the garage. It's a Sanyo TP 728 based on the stickers behind the unit.
I don't think it's in good running condition, definitely worth putting at the back of the garage.

Anyway I was wondering if anybody can advise on whether or not this particular type of turntable is worth having restored.

Additional stickers or labels says:
DC-Servo
Stereo Turntable
Stylus Type ST-35VD

I have a very entry level Audio Technica turntable that I bought a couple of years ago.  Would it be better to just use this instead of resurrecting the Sanyo?

thanks for the advise

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: tonedeaf on Oct 02, 2016 at 06:30 AM
Hi guys, puwede na ba ang Audio Technica AT-LP60 Fully Automatic Belt-Drive Stereo Turntable? Or not even at the level of the RP1 or other entry level turntables?

Also, can I do an RP1 + phono stage + powered speakers like Sonos set up?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: -mhan- on Oct 02, 2016 at 10:57 PM
Hi guys, puwede na ba ang Audio Technica AT-LP60 Fully Automatic Belt-Drive Stereo Turntable? Or not even at the level of the RP1 or other entry level turntables?

Also, can I do an RP1 + phono stage + powered speakers like Sonos set up?

Mas ok siguro mam kung abang abang ka nalang ng technics 1200 mk2-mk6. Kasi spec wise at durability at parts availability sulit ang technics. Pero kung base sa tanung mo mas ok rp1 + phono stage ok na itong setup na ito.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: tonedeaf on Oct 05, 2016 at 08:44 PM
^thanks. It's not for me, it's for my sis who's abroad. Can't find technics here in Sydney, so I'm just looking at familiar sounding brands.

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dodie on Oct 09, 2016 at 03:36 AM
^thanks. It's not for me, it's for my sis who's abroad. Can't find technics here in Sydney, so I'm just looking at familiar sounding brands.

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kung audio technica atty, get the at-lp 120. meron yata nung walang usb. mas mahal yung may usb. stay away from the atlp 60 or any other table with plastic tonearm....


Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: bladecutter_ph on Nov 02, 2016 at 02:06 PM
I own a Kenwood TRIO KP-700 Direct Drive Turntable which I haven't checked and calibrated since I bought from PDVD member. I saw same turntable being sold in Japan's high end store so I decided to use this again. Can you recommend someone who could calibrate and enhance it's set-up?

TIA.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Nov 02, 2016 at 08:00 PM
I own a Kenwood TRIO KP-700 Direct Drive Turntable which I haven't checked and calibrated since I bought from PDVD member. I saw same turntable being sold in Japan's high end store so I decided to use this again. Can you recommend someone who could calibrate and enhance it's set-up?

TIA.

Give Noly (The Analog Source) a try. Maybe he still does. Greenhills yata. He has a FACEBOOK page maybe you could PM him there for queries. HTH
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: bladecutter_ph on Nov 02, 2016 at 09:27 PM
Thanks sir.  Will try to contact Noly.  Is this the same guy in wiredstate community?

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Nov 04, 2016 at 07:57 PM
Thanks sir.  Will try to contact Noly.  Is this the same guy in wiredstate community?

Yes Sir
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: olats on Nov 05, 2016 at 03:19 PM
How come grabe mahal ng lenco turntables dito sa Pinas? Are idler drives really that good?

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Nov 06, 2016 at 06:42 PM
How come grabe mahal ng lenco turntables dito sa Pinas? Are idler drives really that good?

I dont know why too, For me maybe its a Fad. Belt driven TTs are more quieter than Idler's that rumbles but w/ proper mounting on a massive plinth & also w/ proper control on motor vibration and w/ some additional tweaks  a lot of TT enthusiasts says it can out do modern TTs.
For the thick slab of wood used (Kamagong, Narra etc), upgraded ToneArms & Cartridges, these will surely be added extras thats why it comes out very expensive. Maybe if we had good hands in restoring I think this will lessen the cost.

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: puffalan84 on Nov 07, 2016 at 11:04 AM
newbie here on Turntable.. I'm, planning to setup a very simple one for our living room.. TT with built in  Preamp + powered speakers..

My question, is, may difference ba sa sound quality if I used a separate pre-amp than built-in.. Thanks in advance,.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: onedown on Nov 07, 2016 at 05:09 PM
there will be a difference. as to which is better, it would depend on the phono stage.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: lithium_deuteride on Dec 28, 2016 at 11:08 AM
newbie here on Turntable.. I'm, planning to setup a very simple one for our living room.. TT with built in  Preamp + powered speakers..

My question, is, may difference ba sa sound quality if I used a separate pre-amp than built-in.. Thanks in advance,.

I know someone who purchased an Audio Technica TT with built in pre-amp.  He was disappointed with the quality of the pre-amp - mahina gain at mas maganda pa tunog nung CDP niya.  The phono preamp is one component where the saying "you get what you pay for" is often true.  He tried an entry level phono stage (MF V90-LPS) and it improved in both gain and SQ but now he wants to upgrade everything, TT included, hehe.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: fishda on Jun 06, 2017 at 12:06 AM
I'll be buying my first tt.what would be a good budget tt that's less than 20k? Been eyeing the rega p1 . Would this be a good buy? Would the technics sl1200 be a better buy in terms of overall sound and reliability?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: alvinbaronsia on Jun 06, 2017 at 06:04 PM
I'll be buying my first tt.what would be a good budget tt that's less than 20k? Been eyeing the rega p1 . Would this be a good buy? Would the technics sl1200 be a better buy in terms of overall sound and reliability?

I'm quite happy with an RP1 mated to a Hypersound av2050 and LS50s. From what I'm hearing, I don't think I'll be getting the performance pack in the near future. Then again, I only bought this to try out records.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: fishda on Jun 09, 2017 at 02:57 PM
Where to get technics sl1200 mk2s?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: parasound on Jun 09, 2017 at 03:29 PM
I have 1 unit, but it will be available on 1st week of January 2018, Technics SL1200 mk3d, jdm 100V, comes with original headshell and Shure M447

Where to get technics sl1200 mk2s?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: fishda on Jun 14, 2017 at 08:57 AM
How much sir? Is the mk3 better than an rp3
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: olats on Jun 23, 2017 at 01:59 PM
I have both. Different sound. I prefer the simplicity of the Rega.

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: fishda on Jul 12, 2017 at 12:30 PM
Finally got an rp3. What are the things that you do to take care of your vinyl and turntables? Where to get brand new jazz lps?  How long is the lifespan of the stylus and cart?

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Jul 12, 2017 at 08:56 PM
Finally got an rp3. What are the things that you do to take care of your vinyl and turntables? Where to get brand new jazz lps?  How long is the lifespan of the stylus and cart?

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Congratz Sir, Just enjoy the music when it spins, you'll know the the stylus will wear down if the sound reproduction isnt right anymore. For the LPs dami stores dyan sa Manila, not like here in Cebu so scarce or rarely at all. Just get an ONZOW stylus cleaner from edcap, thats one great tool to take the dust & tiny particles sticking to the needle, it will surely extend its life. Also a good record brush will really help  ;)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: alvinbaronsia on Jul 13, 2017 at 12:01 PM
I mostly go to Grey Market Records, you can message them if you have a particular album in mind, or you can just go there and hunt. You can also try plaka express, they buy and ship from the US so they have an extensive collection, but there's some waiting time involved.

On caring for your record, your manual says all there is to take care of it... basically just don't break it ahhaa
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Jul 14, 2017 at 07:09 AM
Dami din sa marketplace natin dito seller ng LPs, Its just great to go to a record shop & see the actual LP. One downside too is there's too much to choose from & we will be confuse on w/c one to get  ;D
Title: Turntable Part 2
Post by: bogart.2006 on Jul 14, 2017 at 07:25 AM
Still torn on getting a TT.  I bought one back from the UK some time back, but never really gotten around to setting it up.  Lugi nga ko kasi mura napabenta, ang mahal na ng market value ngayon.  I sold my kit consisting of a Thorens TT, Creek Amp and PSB bookshelf speakers 2 years back for 20K

Still considering of getting one kasi I have some LPs and a vintage Pioneer Receiver (SX434) which I think will look and sound good in our living room

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: fishda on Jul 14, 2017 at 12:01 PM
Thank you for all the inputs sir sunset and sir alvin.
Where to get a stylus cleaner?

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Jul 14, 2017 at 07:42 PM
Where to get a stylus cleaner?
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Give ED a try, get an ONZOW. Its one indispensable tool for the stylus.

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,200861.0.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,200861.0.html)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Jul 18, 2017 at 09:37 PM
Still torn on getting a TT.  I bought one back from the UK some time back, but never really gotten around to setting it up.  Lugi nga ko kasi mura napabenta, ang mahal na ng market value ngayon.  I sold my kit consisting of a Thorens TT, Creek Amp and PSB bookshelf speakers 2 years back for 20K

Still considering of getting one kasi I have some LPs and a vintage Pioneer Receiver (SX434) which I think will look and sound good in our living room

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170713/f59d0c60133f6420228fc6b96c955871.jpg)

Nice looking vintage Amp!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: irmscher on Jul 18, 2017 at 10:14 PM
Still torn on getting a TT.  I bought one back from the UK some time back, but never really gotten around to setting it up.  Lugi nga ko kasi mura napabenta, ang mahal na ng market value ngayon.  I sold my kit consisting of a Thorens TT, Creek Amp and PSB bookshelf speakers 2 years back for 20K

Still considering of getting one kasi I have some LPs and a vintage Pioneer Receiver (SX434) which I think will look and sound good in our living room

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170713/f59d0c60133f6420228fc6b96c955871.jpg)

Swerte ng nakabili nung set na yun!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Jul 19, 2017 at 07:41 PM
I had an extra SUBDUDE Isolation Platform & it's an exact fit w/ my Victor TT so why not  ;D
Had to double check w/ "Bubble Leveler" to be sure & its perfect!

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: bebot santos on Aug 06, 2017 at 12:32 AM
Got a Sherwood PM9805 from a friend without cartridge and stylus, any inputs where can I get oe and if how much would it cost? Tia!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: thebat on Aug 07, 2017 at 05:48 AM
Bookmarking. TT project naman. In the market for a vintage receiver and speakers.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: im2bz on Aug 15, 2017 at 12:11 PM
Hi guys im planning to buy a turntable is a stanton t120c any good? Or a vintage technics d303 a better alternative?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Aug 15, 2017 at 09:59 PM
Hi guys im planning to buy a turntable is a stanton t120c any good? Or a vintage technics d303 a better alternative?

Any will do as long it suits you taste & as long as it spins then plays that analog sound quality, it will do
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: jerix on Aug 16, 2017 at 09:10 AM
My vintage Akai amp and TT complements well my old vinyl collections. Listening brings your memory back to those times. For me I only want to listen to old music selections with my TT. But in terms of audio quality of course for me the best pa rin ang FLAC files.     
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Superman on Aug 16, 2017 at 09:33 AM
Finally got an rp3. What are the things that you do to take care of your vinyl and turntables? Where to get brand new jazz lps?  How long is the lifespan of the stylus and cart?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v301/fpdguzman/IMG_20170712_114323_zps8dsjsqwf.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/fpdguzman/media/IMG_20170712_114323_zps8dsjsqwf.jpg.html)

Congratulations, fishda!

What particular Jazz LPs are you looking for?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: bogart.2006 on Aug 17, 2017 at 07:17 AM
Any will do as long it suits you taste & as long as it spins then plays that analog sound quality, it will do

I have a vintage receiver and speakers na.  All I need is a turntable :-)  This is good to know.  Abang abang na lang sa selling hehe
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Blackstar on Aug 18, 2017 at 11:50 AM
Planning to repaint my Technics SL-Q33. Is it safe to disassemble it without affecting the tonearm assembly or its performance?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Aug 18, 2017 at 10:04 PM
Planning to repaint my Technics SL-Q33. Is it safe to disassemble it without affecting the tonearm assembly or its performance?

The hard part Raffy would be the tonearm alignment kapag ginalaw natin but sa mga Masters ng TT here I think its a walk in the park for them. Wait nalang tayo sa advice nila.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: ndotcom on Aug 19, 2017 at 08:35 AM
Planning to repaint my Technics SL-Q33. Is it safe to disassemble it without affecting the tonearm assembly or its performance?

Brader I think mas safe pag di na galawin tonearm specially fully automatic yata yan, big possibilities na may miss align. But if you have the courage and proper docs/manual to disassemble then go for it.

Balutin mo lang maige tonearm then spray paint gamitin madali mo na macover lahat ng surface nyan, sipag, tyaga at oras lang need nyan  ;D

Goodluck brader! Wait nalang namin pics before and after....
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Blackstar on Aug 19, 2017 at 11:00 AM
The hard part Raffy would be the tonearm alignment kapag ginalaw natin but sa mga Masters ng TT here I think its a walk in the park for them. Wait nalang tayo sa advice nila.
Salamat sa input sir Ken. Yun din concern ko, yung tonearm alignment. Mejo sensitive mga TT when it comes to that. Hopefully I get to do this without causing any problem sa tonearm. Review ko muna disassembly manual to see if I can do it. Hehehe.
Brader I think mas safe pag di na galawin tonearm specially fully automatic yata yan, big possibilities na may miss align. But if you have the courage and proper docs/manual to disassemble then go for it.

Balutin mo lang maige tonearm then spray paint gamitin madali mo na macover lahat ng surface nyan, sipag, tyaga at oras lang need nyan  ;D

Goodluck brader! Wait nalang namin pics before and after....
Maraming salamat sa input brader. Coming from a DIY master like you, it gives me confidence to go for it. May disassembly manual ako nakita. I guess kailangan ko na lang i-asses kung kaya ko yung disassembly and muster enough courage to do it. Will update this thread once I'm done with the project. ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: alvinbaronsia on Aug 21, 2017 at 04:00 PM
Where can I buy Rega Rp1 belt?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: fishda on Aug 26, 2017 at 10:28 PM
Where can I buy Rega Rp1 belt?
Where can I buy Rega Rp1 belt?
i bought my rega white belt from audible illusions.they have a store on timog ave.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: alvinbaronsia on Aug 26, 2017 at 10:40 PM
i bought my rega white belt from audible illusions.they have a store on timog ave.
Wuuh? I should've asked, I was there last Friday. Can I ask how much you got it?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: tonedeaf on Aug 27, 2017 at 10:25 AM
Hi all! What do you use to clean the cartridge (needle)? And where to buy?

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: olats on Aug 27, 2017 at 04:35 PM
Wuuh? I should've asked, I was there last Friday. Can I ask how much you got it?
Bought mine sa stereofiles. Diko nga halos nagamit kasi nagpalit ako subplatter.

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: olats on Aug 27, 2017 at 04:37 PM
Hi all! What do you use to clean the cartridge (needle)? And where to buy?

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I use onzow. 1k+ damage.

Then I learned may gumagamit pala nun magic eraser type. Yun foam na panglinis. They get one block for P60 lang. Lesson learned. Haha.

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: tonedeaf on Aug 27, 2017 at 04:38 PM
Sa Ace hardware ba makikita yung magic eraser? I'm not familiar with it.

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: banesto on Aug 27, 2017 at 04:41 PM
I use onzow. 1k+ damage.

Then I learned may gumagamit pala nun magic eraser type. Yun foam na panglinis. They get one block for P60 lang. Lesson learned. Haha.

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Ano mas gusto mo bro? Magic Eraser or Onzow Zero Dust?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: banesto on Aug 27, 2017 at 04:42 PM
Sa Ace hardware ba makikita yung magic eraser? I'm not familiar with it.

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Wala sa Ace Hardware bro.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: banesto on Aug 27, 2017 at 04:43 PM
Sa True Value yata meron Magic Eraser.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: olats on Aug 27, 2017 at 04:45 PM
Ano mas gusto mo bro? Magic Eraser or Onzow Zero Dust?
Never tried the magic eraser since I already bought the onzow. Sulitin na din ang bili. Lalong sayang kasi if diko gamitin.

Those who do use it, okay naman daw. I would think pareho lang since the only thing you need to do is find something soft enough that would take dirt way from the stylus.

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: olats on Aug 27, 2017 at 04:46 PM
Sa Ace hardware ba makikita yung magic eraser? I'm not familiar with it.

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If I'm not mistaken, they get theirs sa Daisy/Japan home. Mas mura. Sa true value nasa P100+.

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Blackstar on Aug 27, 2017 at 05:15 PM
Eto ba yang magic eraser sa japan home / daiso?

(https://www.dhresource.com/0x0s/f2-albu-g4-M01-74-0D-rBVaEFcDt5eAI2ffAAJhJ7m5vlc550.jpg/magic-magic-nano-magic-eraser-high-density.jpg)

Here's a short video on how to use the magic eraser to clean your stylus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sPpAlkXEm0
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Aug 27, 2017 at 06:50 PM
Eto ba yang magic eraser sa japan home / daiso?

(https://www.dhresource.com/0x0s/f2-albu-g4-M01-74-0D-rBVaEFcDt5eAI2ffAAJhJ7m5vlc550.jpg/magic-magic-nano-magic-eraser-high-density.jpg)

Here's a short video on how to use the magic eraser to clean your stylus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sPpAlkXEm0

I never knew about this,  another lesson learned today  ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: olats on Aug 27, 2017 at 09:29 PM
Eto ba yang magic eraser sa japan home / daiso?

(https://www.dhresource.com/0x0s/f2-albu-g4-M01-74-0D-rBVaEFcDt5eAI2ffAAJhJ7m5vlc550.jpg/magic-magic-nano-magic-eraser-high-density.jpg)

Here's a short video on how to use the magic eraser to clean your stylus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sPpAlkXEm0
Yan nga.

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: ricmood on Aug 27, 2017 at 10:15 PM
Hi masters. Newbie question po. Ok na po ba yung setup na Audio Technica lp60 bluetooth plus Sony high power audio system gtk-xb5? Maririnig na po ba yung difference nito vs sa smartphone spotify plus yung Sony?

Hindi naman ako magiging serious sa turntable hobby. Gusto ko lang sya maexperience sa mga albums ng mga gusto ko na artists.

Salamat sa mga magrereply.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Aug 28, 2017 at 06:29 AM
Hi masters. Newbie question po. Ok na po ba yung setup na Audio Technica lp60 bluetooth plus Sony high power audio system gtk-xb5? Maririnig na po ba yung difference nito vs sa smartphone spotify plus yung Sony?

Hindi naman ako magiging serious sa turntable hobby. Gusto ko lang sya maexperience sa mga albums ng mga gusto ko na artists.

Salamat sa mga magrereply.

No Master here, si Master Nelson lang ang Master dito sa PDvD  ;D

Seriously as long as it spins & plays the albums you like then its already a good start. There's always a difference in everything but as you said you wont take it to a serious level then that will be fine. But I'm not familiar w/ your SONY GTX-XB5, as long as you could connect the TT thru it & it plays then you will just have the final judgement for it, if its in your liking. Even me I just sometimes play my LPs thru a CROSSLEY Turntable & I still enjoy every analog of it.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: tonedeaf on Aug 28, 2017 at 01:57 PM
FYI, I found Mr. Clean Magic Eraser in True Value (Uptown Mall branch). Php340 pesos. I'll try it out later, after watching the YouTube video.

I'll also try to find something from Japan Home, para may stock.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: tonedeaf on Aug 28, 2017 at 04:03 PM
So I thought the only problem of my Rega RP3 was a dirty needle. I cleaned the needle using the Magic Eraser and found that sound is only coming out of the left speaker. There is a barely discernible sound coming from the right speaker.

I tried to narrow down the culprit as follows:

1. Not a speaker problem because I played a CD and my Xiaomi Mi Box and sound came out the right speaker.

2. I interchanged the RCA cables and voila - the problem is now the left speaker and the right one sounds okay.

Is the needle still dirty? Or is this a cartridge thing? Can this problem arise out of non-use? Hahaha. I have barely played my turntable because the needle got dirty, and just when I thought I had a solution, this other problem came up. And when I say barely, I mean it may be a year since I last played a record.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dana on Aug 28, 2017 at 04:21 PM
sa liit ng needle point to attract/hold dirt, i just use a small make up brush to clean it ...
i dont use any solvent to clean it as i feel that it may react in the long run with the adhesive used to attached the styli to its cantilever...
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: vgsison on Aug 28, 2017 at 06:53 PM
Ako pag may dirt, i gently pull off those dirt/threads sa stylus.


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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: olats on Aug 28, 2017 at 07:25 PM
So I thought the only problem of my Rega RP3 was a dirty needle. I cleaned the needle using the Magic Eraser and found that sound is only coming out of the left speaker. There is a barely discernible sound coming from the right speaker.

I tried to narrow down the culprit as follows:

1. Not a speaker problem because I played a CD and my Xiaomi Mi Box and sound came out the right speaker.

2. I interchanged the RCA cables and voila - the problem is now the left speaker and the right one sounds okay.

Is the needle still dirty? Or is this a cartridge thing? Can this problem arise out of non-use? Hahaha. I have barely played my turntable because the needle got dirty, and just when I thought I had a solution, this other problem came up. And when I say barely, I mean it may be a year since I last played a record.
Marami cause. Could be the rca itself. Might be the tonearm wire. Also the cart.

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Aug 28, 2017 at 07:49 PM
So I thought the only problem of my Rega RP3 was a dirty needle. I cleaned the needle using the Magic Eraser and found that sound is only coming out of the left speaker. There is a barely discernible sound coming from the right speaker.

I tried to narrow down the culprit as follows:

1. Not a speaker problem because I played a CD and my Xiaomi Mi Box and sound came out the right speaker.

2. I interchanged the RCA cables and voila - the problem is now the left speaker and the right one sounds okay.

Is the needle still dirty? Or is this a cartridge thing? Can this problem arise out of non-use? Hahaha. I have barely played my turntable because the needle got dirty, and just when I thought I had a solution, this other problem came up. And when I say barely, I mean it may be a year since I last played a record.


A friend of mine got the same problem w/ his REGA RP3 & he thought maybe someone in the househelp clean the TT & hit the needle so he bought a new cartridge but results was still the same. In the end the culprit was the internal wiring of the tonearm. So better check carefully to find out whats causing the problem.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: saltuhin on Aug 28, 2017 at 08:29 PM
mukhang hindi amp, speakers kasi okay naman ibang source.
things to check:
1. interconnect coming from phonostage since inilipat lang from right to left sa amp input. baka sira isang channel. pinakamadali since ic lang.
2. phonostage. baka sira right channel. you can try a different phono stage.
3. cartridge. nangyari na sa akin ito buti mura lang shure m92e. naghanap pa ako new stylus pero yung cart na talaga may problema.
4. o kaya yung tonearm wiring nga.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: dana on Aug 29, 2017 at 05:33 PM
try to reconnect the small wires in the headshell to your cartridge (baka may cold contact).
check also the headshell contacts (also the tonearm end contacts).


else, cartridge itself has  1 channel open coil, issue on tonearm wires, issue on tonearm wires going to rca connector (if separate rca wires are used)

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: tonedeaf on Sep 01, 2017 at 08:53 AM
Had it checked at Watts Hi Fi (where I purchased my RP3). Cartridge problem - they tried a different cartridge and no issues. Bummer. Didn't realize how expensive this things are. Makakabawas sa "new amp fund" ko. Haha.

Puwede na ba Rega Bias (which I think is a step down from what came with the RP3)? I remember before, when I was reading up on cartridges, reading about Nagaoka brand. What model do you suggest?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Courage on Sep 01, 2017 at 10:08 AM
So I thought the only problem of my Rega RP3 was a dirty needle. I cleaned the needle using the Magic Eraser and found that sound is only coming out of the left speaker. There is a barely discernible sound coming from the right speaker.

I tried to narrow down the culprit as follows:

1. Not a speaker problem because I played a CD and my Xiaomi Mi Box and sound came out the right speaker.

2. I interchanged the RCA cables and voila - the problem is now the left speaker and the right one sounds okay.

Is the needle still dirty? Or is this a cartridge thing? Can this problem arise out of non-use? Hahaha. I have barely played my turntable because the needle got dirty, and just when I thought I had a solution, this other problem came up. And when I say barely, I mean it may be a year since I last played a record.


Kung nung pinagpalit mo yung RCA from left to right and lumipat ang issue sa kabilang channel, di kaya yung RCA ang problema?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: olats on Sep 01, 2017 at 01:43 PM
Had it checked at Watts Hi Fi (where I purchased my RP3). Cartridge problem - they tried a different cartridge and no issues. Bummer. Didn't realize how expensive this things are. Makakabawas sa "new amp fund" ko. Haha.

Puwede na ba Rega Bias (which I think is a step down from what came with the RP3)? I remember before, when I was reading up on cartridges, reading about Nagaoka brand. What model do you suggest?
I've tried the entry level nagaoka with my rega. Nasa 5k pero Japan ko kasi nakuha. Okay naman. Yun ang gamit ko for My sl1200

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: tonedeaf on Sep 01, 2017 at 03:51 PM
Kung nung pinagpalit mo yung RCA from left to right and lumipat ang issue sa kabilang channel, di kaya yung RCA ang problema?
We checked using different cable, still no sound on one channel. They also used a tester (forgot what it's called), talagang nothing coming out of one end.

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Sep 02, 2017 at 06:28 AM
Puwede na ba Rega Bias (which I think is a step down from what came with the RP3)? I remember before, when I was reading up on cartridges, reading about Nagaoka brand. What model do you suggest?

NAGAOKA MP-110 will do, if you want to up the ante then go for MP-200 or its TOTL the MP-500
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: tonedeaf on Sep 03, 2017 at 09:32 AM
NAGAOKA MP-110 will do, if you want to up the ante then go for MP-200 or its TOTL the MP-500
Considering I appeared to have damaged my current stylus unknowingly, I will refrain from buying the expensive models. Haha. 10k or less ang budget ko.

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Sep 03, 2017 at 10:28 AM
Considering I appeared to have damaged my current stylus unknowingly, I will refrain from buying the expensive models. Haha. 10k or less ang budget ko.

I think the Nagaoka MP-110 would could less than P7k. Its good one for everyday wear & tear.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: saltuhin on Sep 03, 2017 at 04:24 PM
Considering I appeared to have damaged my current stylus unknowingly, I will refrain from buying the expensive models. Haha. 10k or less ang budget ko.

Ortofon 2M Blue and Shure M97xe come to mind. Best to hear it yourself.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: tonedeaf on Sep 03, 2017 at 06:54 PM
Parang may shortage ng Nagaoka MP-110 :(
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: olats on Sep 03, 2017 at 07:54 PM
Parang may shortage ng Nagaoka MP-110 :(
Yup. That's the reason I got one sa Japan during a trip. Prefer it over the shure. Haven't heard Ortofon.

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: fishda on Sep 03, 2017 at 08:20 PM
How
Ortofon 2M Blue and Shure M97xe come to mind. Best to hear it yourself.
how much is the ortofon blue locally and where to source?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Blackstar on Sep 04, 2017 at 06:32 PM
Considering I appeared to have damaged my current stylus unknowingly, I will refrain from buying the expensive models. Haha. 10k or less ang budget ko.

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Do these styli not come with warranty? Just curious as I haven't bought one brand new.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: saltuhin on Sep 04, 2017 at 08:55 PM
How how much is the ortofon blue locally and where to source?
source them out here
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,140798.0.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,140798.0.html)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: tonedeaf on Sep 15, 2017 at 05:55 PM
How how much is the ortofon blue locally and where to source?

Just came from Watts Hi Fi, they have it at 12,500.

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: tonedeaf on Sep 15, 2017 at 05:59 PM
Had it checked at Watts Hi Fi (where I purchased my RP3). Cartridge problem - they tried a different cartridge and no issues. Bummer. Didn't realize how expensive this things are. Makakabawas sa "new amp fund" ko. Haha.

Puwede na ba Rega Bias (which I think is a step down from what came with the RP3)? I remember before, when I was reading up on cartridges, reading about Nagaoka brand. What model do you suggest?

Update on my problem - after confirming that it's a busted cartridge, I was lucky enough that a friend was going to Tokyo. Nagpabili ako ng Nagaoka MP-110. Even there, there's a bit of a shortage. Cost is about 5,600 converted.

I asked the very nice folks at Watts Hi Fi to install the Nagaoka for me and voila, my RP3 is now working again :)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Sep 15, 2017 at 08:41 PM
Update on my problem - after confirming that it's a busted cartridge, I was lucky enough that a friend was going to Tokyo. Nagpabili ako ng Nagaoka MP-110. Even there, there's a bit of a shortage. Cost is about 5,600 converted.

I asked the very nice folks at Watts Hi Fi to install the Nagaoka for me and voila, my RP3 is now working again :)

Wow you really got an MP-110 after all. Congratz & Happy Spinning!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: fishda on Sep 24, 2017 at 04:10 PM
Update on my problem - after confirming that it's a busted cartridge, I was lucky enough that a friend was going to Tokyo. Nagpabili ako ng Nagaoka MP-110. Even there, there's a bit of a shortage. Cost is about 5,600 converted.

I asked the very nice folks at Watts Hi Fi to install the Nagaoka for me and voila, my RP3 is now working again :)

How's the performance of the nagaoka cart sir?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Stagea on Oct 01, 2017 at 12:34 AM
Cheapest phonograph ever... LOL.
https://youtu.be/vA-AQwBS6nY
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Oct 01, 2017 at 07:27 AM
Cheapest phonograph ever... LOL.
https://youtu.be/vA-AQwBS6nY

And I thought CROSSLEY were the cheapest at ang galing yung coin ang naging counterweight  :D

Brader Stags parang it needs a wooden plinth & some isolation footers  ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: shuttertrigger on Oct 11, 2017 at 01:04 AM
My turntable always skips sa last track ng plaka. Same spot kahit anong plaka isalang ko. Nagtataka naman at sa last track lagi.

Ano kaya prob? cart, needle, or TT na?  ??? Thanks for the replies
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: parasound on Oct 11, 2017 at 11:50 AM
Try mo i adjust mo setting ng Anti Skating


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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: shuttertrigger on Oct 11, 2017 at 09:10 PM
Try mo i adjust mo setting ng Anti Skating

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I believe eto ang problema, wala akong nakikitang anti skating na adjustment  ???

Got the table from a dirty chep price  ;D Sansui PD 10

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Oct 12, 2017 at 06:05 AM
If it has no Anti-Skating & Counterweight adjustments then you could never do a trial & error test so best probable cause would be an internal mechanism problem, have it check if you cant DIY or get a new 1 (plenty of good price, well branded Vintage or Non Vintage TTs in the market nowadays) Goodluck Bro
Title: Turntable Part 2
Post by: parasound on Oct 12, 2017 at 09:23 AM
Or try mo i download ang operation manual para ma check mo yung proper setting ng TT mo, search mo sa vinylengine.. then kung hindi talaga ma adjust, follow at_sunset_blvd suggestion. Good luck

Read - https://forum.pcmech.com/threads/enable-anti-skate-on-sansui-p-d10-turntable.157104/


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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: redstarrising on Oct 12, 2017 at 10:33 AM
I believe walang adjustment counterweight at anti skate itong model na ito same sa mga new model na crosley and other portable turntable na lumalabas na NP5 and NP6 cart, auto return ito after the last track. Yun arm nito may spring type sa ilalim. Tama si Sunset check yun mechanism sa loob or yun tonearm wire baka may sinasabitan or oscillating mechanism sa loob malagkit or dapat lagyan langis. 
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: shuttertrigger on Oct 12, 2017 at 09:03 PM
Thanks mga sir!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: vgsison on Oct 22, 2017 at 06:01 PM
Clearaudio Innovation Basic(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171022/d6c5ef7ce9b32fe760bb7e734ffa9e65.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171022/0ce434f307c22a62f757d869c6888b93.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171022/39572d8c59ad238e7b34fb3b2cdeeaea.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171022/3b9832fdcad943ba7a092ae25849bb76.jpg)

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Narayan on Oct 23, 2017 at 09:43 AM
Congrats on the new TT & MC cart VG 8)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: vgsison on Oct 23, 2017 at 01:10 PM
Thank you sir Obet.

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: redstarrising on Oct 26, 2017 at 07:59 AM
Wow!!! Clearaudio and Hana ,  super ganda.. :) ;)
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: redstarrising on Oct 26, 2017 at 08:03 AM
bigla akong nagka idea sa cart holder , ganyan ang gagayahin ko  :D :D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: vgsison on Oct 26, 2017 at 08:04 AM
Wow!!! Clearaudio and Hana ,  super ganda.. :) ;)
Boss salamat.

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: banesto on Oct 26, 2017 at 09:04 AM
Congrats sir vgsison. Maganda yan lalo na clearaudio tt mo.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: vgsison on Oct 27, 2017 at 03:28 PM
Congrats sir vgsison. Maganda yan lalo na clearaudio tt mo.
Coming from a legend like you highly appreciated.

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: vgsison on Nov 03, 2017 at 12:40 PM
Acrylic cover to protect the valuable TT. Upgraded also with CA Quadro Clamp and an alignment aide Lamp. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171103/27e7dec693f677a0fd079c2e5276abeb.jpg)

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: romymartinez on Nov 06, 2017 at 08:04 PM
Ganda Sir vgsison! Congrats!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: vgsison on Nov 09, 2017 at 06:56 AM
Ganda Sir vgsison! Congrats!
Thanks

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: juanderer on Nov 10, 2017 at 11:12 AM
anong price nyo nakuha yong clearaudio innovation sir ? locally acquired ba ?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: vgsison on Nov 10, 2017 at 11:39 AM
Locally acquired. From George Mabasa.

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: vgsison on Nov 12, 2017 at 03:37 PM
Setup B in my HT Room converted into an Audio Room in the meantime(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171112/5ca3d6f00e5f1759ac3ba881d387fa8a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171112/d7c540a32702c139dfab0c4ac38ebde3.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171112/9df30b1426081816fa46772b3c5db1ac.jpg)

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: alvinbaronsia on Jan 16, 2018 at 06:05 PM
Can anyone refer a record cleaning service? I was recently given a box of old records but I don't currently have the time to clean every single one.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Jan 16, 2018 at 09:47 PM
Can anyone refer a record cleaning service? I was recently given a box of old records but I don't currently have the time to clean every single one.

w/ a box of LPs you can either buy yourself a SPIN CLEAN Kit & do it by yourself from edcap99 http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,200861.0.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,200861.0.html)

or you could go to the GREYMARKET to have clean w/ their RCM machines @ P80/each if its still the current price presently.

Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: alvinbaronsia on Jan 16, 2018 at 11:38 PM
Thanks
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: sgxp97 on Feb 26, 2018 at 02:40 PM
Sino nagbebenta ng Denon carts, specifically DL-110?  Ung fresh pa, I want 2 pieces.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: wacksy1021 on Mar 13, 2018 at 02:03 PM
San ba makakabili ng mgandang price for the audio technica lp120 ang how much kaya? Thanks.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: scoob on Mar 23, 2018 at 09:36 PM
Sino nagbebenta ng Denon carts, specifically DL-110?  Ung fresh pa, I want 2 pieces.
Sir may nahanap ka ng DL-110? Looking for one too.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Apr 04, 2018 at 09:05 AM
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4557/24544656638_1e231923da_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DoVMi9)

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Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: viper on Jun 26, 2018 at 12:23 PM
Is the motorino turnable sold by Satchmi any good?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: noob on Sep 15, 2018 at 09:14 AM
got a new ortofon 2m red (head, cart and stylus), can i simply plug it in straight to my yp-211  tonearm, yamaha turntable or do i have to rearrange those colored cables and mounting screws on what standards? thanks  truly noob here. any help will be greatly appreciated. thanks.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Sep 15, 2018 at 09:46 AM
got a new ortofon 2m red (head, cart and stylus), can i simply plug it in straight to my yp-211  tonearm, yamaha turntable or do i have to rearrange those colored cables and mounting screws on what standards? thanks  truly noob here. any help will be greatly appreciated. thanks.

Is the cartridge mounted on the headshell already? If so, then there is no need to re-arrange the wires.

But just to make sure that the wires goes to the right path:

Red - Right +
Green or Brown - Right -
White - Left +
Blue - Left -
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: noob on Sep 15, 2018 at 11:26 AM
Is the cartridge mounted on the headshell already? If so, then there is no need to re-arrange the wires.

But just to make sure that the wires goes to the right path:

Red - Right +
Green or Brown - Right -
White - Left +
Blue - Left -

Yes sir, it is already mounted.  Does that mean i do not need to adjust the screws also? Thanks Nicadraus!

 But i think it is dropping rapidly to the vynil when thre lever is pulled/slided down. Any suggestion/comment?
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Nicadraus on Sep 15, 2018 at 01:46 PM
Yes sir, it is already mounted.  Does that mean i do not need to adjust the screws also? Thanks Nicadraus!

 But i think it is dropping rapidly to the vynil when thre lever is pulled/slided down. Any suggestion/comment?

You will have to adjust the tonearm's counterweight. Set it according to the requirement of your cartridge/needle. Check the suggested weight in the manual of the carts/needle.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: noob on Sep 15, 2018 at 02:17 PM
You will have to adjust the tonearm's counterweight. Set it according to the requirement of your cartridge/needle. Check the suggested weight in the manual of the carts/needle.

Sir, are you referring to this:

Tracking force range  -  1,6-2,0g (16-20 mN)
Tracking force, recommended  - 1,8 g (18 mN)
Tracking angle  -  20°

The currently installed one, ortofon f150, counterweight is set at number 2. so i have to manually adjust it at 1.8? i do not have a gauge and have not adjusted it since i bought it from Sir Augmentum here in pdvd. 

Thanks again!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Sep 16, 2018 at 07:18 AM
It could be better if you have Tracking Force Gauge so it could be accurately set. If none try setting the counterweight to its required tracking force if its still drops rapidly might as well try decreasing by bits until you feel you have the satisfactory movement.

Might as well great to have Cartridge Alignment Tool to set the cartridge properly, if none also then our ears will be the greatest tool  :)

HTH
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: noob on Sep 17, 2018 at 01:40 AM
It could be better if you have Tracking Force Gauge so it could be accurately set. If none try setting the counterweight to its required tracking force if its still drops rapidly might as well try decreasing by bits until you feel you have the satisfactory movement.

Might as well great to have Cartridge Alignment Tool to set the cartridge properly, if none also then our ears will be the greatest tool  :)

HTH

Thank you  at_sunset_blvd and Nicadraus for such a great help in my  setting up of my turntable.  I will try to look for a tracking force gauge as it will be very useful should i replace or return back my cartridges. In the mean time i will be using my ortofon f150 replacement cart to avoid ruining my 2m red or my vynils.   Again, many thanks for your time and responses. Gb!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: shuttertrigger on May 22, 2019 at 11:18 PM
Magkaiba color coding ng Project vs Ortofon

I tried the best connection but there is humming sound when it is connected.

Project - Red, Yellow, White, Green

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47119530944_c4ca678426_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eMMUVW)

Color coding - Project (https://flic.kr/p/2eMMUVW) by Eric Barao (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbarao/), on Flickr

Ortofon - White, Blue, Red, Silver

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40942327323_73b3c7e30d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25nW8ve)

Color coding Ortofon (https://flic.kr/p/25nW8ve) by Eric Barao (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ericbarao/), on Flickr

Any tips will be highly appreciated. TIA!
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: saltuhin on May 23, 2019 at 09:35 AM
try mo ito. red for red, white for white, green for silver, yellow for blue.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: saltuhin on May 23, 2019 at 12:11 PM
anung model ng project yan? tried google parang white, red, green, blue din yung mga kulay ng pins nya.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: Mr. Bungle on May 23, 2019 at 02:02 PM
Is there any authorized dealer here for Technics turntables? I'm looking for either the SL1200 Mk.7 and the SL1210GR
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: shuttertrigger on May 23, 2019 at 09:01 PM
anung model ng project yan? tried google parang white, red, green, blue din yung mga kulay ng pins nya.

Pro Ject Debut 1.2 sir
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: saltuhin on May 23, 2019 at 10:25 PM
saw the pro ject 1.2 manual sa vinylengine. white, red, green and blue ang color ng cartidge pins. bakit kaya naging yellow yung isa sa iyo? maganda siguro gamit ka VOM tapos try mo continuity para malaman sa rca output kung alin yung mga katapat na color coded pins.
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: shuttertrigger on May 23, 2019 at 10:33 PM
saw the pro ject 1.2 manual sa vinylengine. white, red, green and blue ang color ng cartidge pins. bakit kaya naging yellow yung isa sa iyo? maganda siguro gamit ka VOM tapos try mo continuity para malaman sa rca output kung alin yung mga katapat na color coded pins.

Got it used on ebay at a great price. Baka na re-wire na. Binalik ko yung Oyster cart ok naman at maganda pa din ang tunog. Nakakaduling na pag kabit kabit ng pins  ;D
Title: Re: Turntable Part 2
Post by: alvinbaronsia on Jun 02, 2019 at 02:32 AM
Looking to upgrade my Rega RP1. Is it worth upgrading it, if I buy 2nd hand tone arm, glass/delrin platter, motor? I think only  the plinth will be left that is not upgraded... are the higher end model plinths much better than RP1 or is it a better build as well, meaning, I should just buy a higher model? This is assuming I can get the those 3 mentioned cheaper than the higher model of course.