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Title: DVD Editions:infinifilm,criterion,superbit, vistaseries, limited, etc...
Post by: xage on Feb 28, 2002 at 02:05 AM
Are there any standards? What then?

Highly appreciate your responses
Title: Re: infini/criterion/superbit/ultimate ed/special
Post by: robertj on Feb 28, 2002 at 04:21 AM
there are no standards. it's all marketing hype.
Title: Re: infini/criterion/superbit/ultimate ed/special
Post by: Mo®pHeOu$ on Feb 28, 2002 at 09:09 AM

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Are there any standards? What then?

Highly aprpeciate your responses


;D ;D maybe it's a way of making more money for the makers of the movie kasi ang dami ng format eh binibili pa rin ng tao yung iba't-iba.  
Title: Re: infini/criterion/superbit/ultimate ed/special
Post by: Jude on Feb 28, 2002 at 12:28 PM
Ganito yan.

Infinifilm is a line of DVDs from New Line. This type of DVD usually contains loads of extras which are integrated into the movie itself (you can check out the extras while watching the movie in an immersive, interactive style), kaya everything is fit into a single DVD-9 disc. Some experts say that this results in lesser image quality, but this isn't necessarily true. Kung magaling yung pagka-encode, or short lang yung movie, di mo naman halata. I kinda like this line kasi no need for disc-swapping, and as far as I'm concerned the purported decrease in image quality is mostly negligible.

Criterion is an independent company (not affiliated with any studio) which puts together their own releases of "notable" films that they deem "worthy" of "special" treatment. They've been around since the LD days, and most of their classic film library is derived from the Janus Film Archives with which they have an exclusive arrangement. Enthusiasts have come to associate Criterion with topnotch image quality and a boatload of nifty extras. But there are exceptions, as there are a few Criterion releases with bad image quality and/or no extras (i.e., Salo).

Superbit is from Columbia/Tristar (aka Sony). Films in this line are said to have an extra-high bitrate resulting in superior image and audio quality. All films in this line have DTS tracks. There are zero extras and a very simple menu design so that all the space on the DVD can be allocated for the film itself. This line is actually mostly marketing hype lang kasi diba when turning a movie into a DVD, as a rule, shouldn't the bitrate always be as high as possible anyway? So I believe that we shouldn't be paying extra for that "extra-high" bitrate. Kumbaga Superbit discs are like Special/Collector's/Ultimate editions lacking a disc 2 with extras, and selling for the same price (hindi sulit!). But this will be remedied daw with the Superbit Deluxe line.

Title: Re: infini/criterion/superbit/ultimate ed/special
Post by: Sunfire on Mar 04, 2002 at 10:47 PM
Very well said, Jude.  Been looking for a good and brief description for each category for sometime now and you just did it simply  ;)  Thanks.
Title: Re: infini/criterion/superbit/ultimate ed/special
Post by: Rak-Rak on Mar 05, 2002 at 06:52 PM
Yung mga earler releases ng Universal na DTS gaya ng River Wild DTS, Apollo 13 DTS, Day Light DTS... ay ma-i-coconsider na superbit kasi wala itong extra features at sagad ang Video bitrate niya at take note, ang DTS Track niya ay doble ang bitrate ng DTS track ng Superbit.  karamihan sa mga lumalabas na DTS track lately ay tinatawag na 1/2 DTS bitrate lang. :(

All this is are marketing scheme para bilhin natin ulit yung dati na nating binili na movie nila.
Title: Re: infini/criterion/superbit/ultimate ed/special
Post by: Sunfire on Mar 06, 2002 at 06:43 PM
In my opinion, regardless of what production company a dvd came from whether it's a DD or DTS encoded tracks, basta it sounds good on my system ok na sa akin.  Generally, DTS sounds better than DD.  But there are titles with DD that's close with that of DTS like Goldeneye, Tomorrow Never Dies, The Mummy, and The Mummy Returns to name a few.  But if you're a bit accurate conscious dude, eh makakabutas nga yan ng bulsa  ;D
Title: What's different between rated & unrated titles?
Post by: emildjr on Nov 28, 2001 at 10:08 AM
What is the difference between a rated & unrated DVD titles? What's the best DVD to buy?
Title: Re: What's different between rated & unrated title
Post by: NY152 on Nov 28, 2001 at 10:37 AM
That really depends on the film, and on what you're looking for.

Usually, "unrated" implies more graphic footage - graphic in terms of language, sex and nudity, or violence.

For example, in "American Pie", the unrated version has slightly longer footage of Shannon Elizabeth touching herself, a different angle for the infamous pie scene, and a few more pages shown from the sex manual. Those were the only differences I noted.

In the case of "Robocop", the Unrated Criterion DVD is much more violent than the Orion/Image (?) R-rated theatrical version release. This is very noticeable in the scene where Murphy is gunned down.

The most common films with unrated and R-rated versions, however, are the B-movie softcore flicks, like "Emmanuelle: First Contact", "Secret Games 3", and the like. WARNING: For those into these types of films (present company included... sometimes...  ;) ), the DVDs of both these titles marked "unrated" actually contain the R-Rated versions. The versions that came out on original VCD and on laserdisc had more "interesting" footage.

I learned the hard way...   ;D
Title: Re: What's different between rated & unrated title
Post by: emildjr on Nov 28, 2001 at 11:01 AM
NY152,

Thanks you... I guess I'll get the unrated titles and I'll check those softcore movies you've mention  ;D

Title: Re: What's different between rated & unrated title
Post by: ßartmaniac on Nov 28, 2001 at 12:24 PM
In the case of Hollywood movies/DVDs which bears the mark "Unrated", those are movies which include certain scenes which were NOT included when the film was rated (GP, PG, R or X) by the Motion Pictures Assc. of America (our MTRCB's US counterpart).  So in effect, it's the same rated movie inserted with unrated/longer scenes (normally a more graphic sex and/or violent shot).

There's a gray area in contrasting "Unrated Version" and "Director's Cut" though since I think both are unrated and relatively longer that the theatrical release.  Now what's the difference?

I tried to give an answer but ended up with more questions ???




Posted by Bently in another thread:
"Many of the alterations involve lines of dialogue, but sharp-eyed viewers will notice the few instances where alternate footage has been inserted. The biggest change is an alternate camera angle of the infamous "apple pie scene" – in the R-rated version, hapless Jim is caught standing up, holding said pie over his genitalia; in the Unrated version, Jim is caught laid out on the counter, thrusting on top of the pie."
Title: Re: What's different between rated & unrated title
Post by: NY152 on Nov 28, 2001 at 12:38 PM
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There's a gray area in contrasting "Unrated Version" and "Director's Cut" though since I think both are unrated and relatively longer that the theatrical release.  Now what's the difference?


I think basically, once the previously rated film is re-edited by the director, if he chooses to submit it to the MPAA again, they'll impose a rating. Thus, if the footage suits their standards, the "Director's Cut" may still garner an R-Rating. Case in point: Apocalypse Now Redux.

If he doesn't pass it through the MPAA, then the new version will be marked "unrated".
Title: Re: What's different between rated & unrated title
Post by: Kahon on Nov 28, 2001 at 12:39 PM
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In the case of Hollywood movies/DVDs which bears the mark "Unrated", those are movies which include certain scenes which were NOT included when the film was rated (GP, PG, R or X) by the Motion Pictures Assc. of America (our MTRCB's US counterpart).  So in effect, it's the same rated movie inserted with unrated/longer scenes (normally a more graphic sex and/or violent shot).

There's a gray area in contrasting "Unrated Version" and "Director's Cut" though since I think both are unrated and relatively longer that the theatrical release.  Now what's the difference?

I tried to give an answer but ended up with more questions ???



I'll try to make an observation:

Usually "Unrated Version" would be the European release, which is normally cut to get an R-rating when it gets to America if it is too racy.  An example is Basic Instict.

A "Director's Cut" would be in the works after the theatrical run of the film in America and Europe, and happens when the director wants to restore scenes that were cut for time or delete extraneous scenes.  Example would be Bladerunner, Brazil.

But with some releases like:  The Nutty Professor 2, American Pie, this observation goes out the window.  Ano ba yan?

Title: Re: What's different between rated & unrated title
Post by: ßartmaniac on Nov 28, 2001 at 12:52 PM
Thanks for your reply, NY152 & kahon.  Both made sense. Though I must admit it got me all the more confused reading one after the other with diffrent views ??? ;D

I'd say, enough of those "Unrated Versions" and "Director's Cut" and just release the movie in DVDs as it was in the theaters.  Those unrated, cut and/or alternate scenes then goes into the "Deleted Scene" section ;D  That's just me, of course ;)
Title: Re: What's different between rated & unrated title
Post by: quasar on Nov 30, 2001 at 12:30 AM
Rated and unrated are used to describe a film that has been submitted to the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) for rating prior to release as a guide for cinemaplexes and audiences alike. MPAA ratings are "G" - suitable for all audiences; "PG" - parental guidance suggested; "PG-13" - may be inappropriate for viewers under 13; "R" - not recommended for viewers under 17 without an adult or guardian present; "NC-17" - not suitable for viewers under 17. If the term used was "not rated", the film wasn't submitted to the MPAA.  If the term used was "unrated", it signals that additional material was added to the previously MPAA rated feature.

"Director's Cut", on the other hand, refers to the version of the film. Often the director is contractually obligated to deliver to the studio a film with a specific length, say 90 mins, for theatrical release. (Why a specific length? So that the film can have more showings at the cinema and thus make more money for the studio.) The director would then have to edit the movie in such a way that it would meet this requirement. In some cases, the director edits the film to improve pacing, etc. The end result is sometimes called the "studio version" or "theatrical version".

The director may have a clause his contract (I'm not sure whether this is a standard clause for all directors) that reserves for him the right to produce his own cut of the film without any restrictions as to length. This is referred to as the "director's cut", and is usually released only on home video/DVD.  

A "director's cut" would be classified as "unrated" since additional material was added to the previously MPAA-rated film. A good example is Lethal Weapon. If you look at its IMdb entry, the original feature is rated "R" while the director's cut (available only on home video/DVD) is "unrated".  It is also possible for the director's cut to be submitted to MPAA in order for it to be shown theatrically.  This was done for Apocalypse Now Redux, which was rated R by the MPAA, just like the original Apocalyse Now.

Is the unrated version always a director's cut? Not necessarily. The additional material may have been added by the producer/studio without the director's intervention or against his wishes. Caligula is a good example of this. Or, the studio planned from the onset to release an unrated version for home video and required the director to prepare the same in addition to the theatrical version.
Title: Re: What's different between rated & unrated title
Post by: xage on Feb 21, 2002 at 06:41 PM
I think most Unrated DVDs are categorized within the NC 17 rating comapre to its PG & R rated counterparts.

With the current lock of Previous Thread, anyone of you has an Idea of whats the difference of American Pie 2 unrated with its rated counterpart?
Title: Re: What's different between rated & unrated title
Post by: kings5504 on Mar 01, 2002 at 09:44 PM
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Anyone of you has an Idea of whats the difference of

American Pie 2 unrated with its rated counterpart

Got this from the Home Theater Forum (http://www.hometheaterforum.com):

minor spoilers ahead...

[glow=black,378934,11344]Those who hoped for a lot more skin and smut will be disappointed. Yes, we see a little more action during the lesbian scene; the brunette drops her top and the blonde mildly kisses her chest.  In another scene, after Michelle from Band Camp puts the trumpet in Jim's butt, they sneak out and we see in silhouette a camp counselor playing the trumpet. Later, footage of the counselor with a gross fungus growing around his mouth was shown.
 
Otherwise, the cuts were clearly made for time, not for rating. Stifler rides Oz because he remains faithful to Heather, Stifler gets into tussles with Finch, Jim's dad goes on a rant at the emergency room... Again, it's all pretty minor,and none of it matches the expectations one has for "unrated" material. Fans will be happy to see it, but the overall impact is minor. [/glow]
Title: Re: What's different between rated & unrated title
Post by: viper on Mar 01, 2002 at 09:50 PM
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With the current lock of Previous Thread.

Anyone of you has an Idea of whats the difference of

American Pie 2 unrated with its rated counterpart




Just completed viewing AP2 unrated region 3 from astro. It seems that there is no difference between the theatrical version and the unrated region 3 version. Possible reason could be any of the following:

The US theatrical version did not contain the nudity and sexually explicit scenes but was included in its Philippine theater run hence  there is no difference between the unrated disk and the RP theater run

-or-

The R3 disk have been mislabeled as unrated since there is no difference between the disk and the RP theater run assuming that the version shown in RP theaters are 'toned down' cut of the movie

-or-

the unrated label refers to the extra footages shown in the special features.

What do you think?  ??? ???




Anybody can correct me here but the way I understood it, the unrated version is the one that you won't see in the movies. For example, in Road Trip (Ur8ted), the scene where the guy is tweaking the boobs of the girls definitely will not be seen in the cinemas (at least not here in the Philippines).

It could also pertain to an edition that was not really given a rating (?) for one reason or another.
Title: Re: What's different between rated & unrated title
Post by: viper on Mar 01, 2002 at 09:53 PM
Hey, just read  kings5504's post. We post almost simultaneously.

Anyway, I cannot really recall if the father's ranting in the hospital was shown in the theaters so this must be it.

ANyway, I enjoyed the movie, nevertheless.
Title: Re: What's different between rated & unrated title
Post by: NY152 on Mar 01, 2002 at 11:01 PM
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The US theatrical version did not contain the nudity and sexually explicit scenes but was included in its Philippine theater run hence  there is no difference between the unrated disk and the RP theater run


Not likely. I think the only time this happened with a mainstream studio film was with "Austin Powers", where the RP theatrical run had the deleted scenes incorporated into the film. I don't think AP2 was even made available as unrated until its video release.

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The R3 disk have been mislabeled as unrated since there is no difference between the disk and the RP theater run assuming that the version shown in RP theaters are 'toned down' cut of the movie


Seems most likely.

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the unrated label refers to the extra footages shown in the special features.


Nah, other discs with explicit footage in deleted scenes don't have that warning. At best they have a small "additional footage unrated" text warning.

Actually, when I first watched the Unrated R1 discs, I couldn't figure out what was added from the theatrical run. The lesbian scene seemed just a bit longer, but all the other additional scenes I couldn't figure out.
Title: Re: What's different between rated & unrated title
Post by: xage on Mar 09, 2002 at 05:36 AM
Caligula DVD Cover Color

Rated - Colored in Red Background
Unrated - Colored in Blue background

Saw the difference between the rated and unrated Road Trip and man on the DVD, there is an extra scene in the shower where there are more skin than U can imagine. :o

There are also DVD that has the option to set it as Unrated or Rated.

Like:
Embrace of the Vampire
Title: Re: What's different between rated & unrated title
Post by: Rak-Rak on Mar 09, 2002 at 10:57 AM

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Caligula DVD Cover Color

Rated - Colored in Red Background
Unrated - Colored in Blue background


Buti na lang Unrated yung nabili ko, me kasama pang extra DVD ng Playboy Sneak peak...sneak-na-sneak talaga. he-he-he. ;D ;D
Title: Re: What's different between rated & unrated title
Post by: viper on Mar 10, 2002 at 03:56 AM

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Buti na lang Unrated yung nabili ko, me kasama pang extra DVD ng Playboy Sneak peak...sneak-na-sneak talaga. he-he-he. ;D ;D


Bakit wala yang extra dun sa binili ko kay CultureClub?  >:( >:(
Title: Re: What's different between rated & unrated title
Post by: lazy_maze on Mar 10, 2002 at 07:22 AM
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Buti na lang Unrated yung nabili ko, me kasama pang extra DVD ng Playboy Sneak peak...sneak-na-sneak talaga. he-he-he. ;D ;D


Huh??...Mine doesn't have that extra DVD you're talking about. The Unrated version only has a single disc containing the "making of" feature, etc. but no sneak peak disc.

Plus, weren't Penthouse models used in this movie (since it was a Bob Guccione production) and not Playboy models?

Unless, you're referring to an easter egg that I'am not aware of... ???
Title: Help on Different DVD Editions: infini/criterion/superbit/ultimate/special
Post by: gladiator on Oct 23, 2001 at 06:01 AM
People it's already giving me a hard time deciding what dvds to buy for my collection and in what criteria but to make things worse the various types of film releases is another point to consider. Can anyone tell me what the differences are among the: UE, SE, CE, CC disks?

Is it just the features and audio or does a certain edition state if its presented in anamorphic/letterboxed widescreen or fullscreen? I know that anamorphic is the best style right? Also, sometimes it doesn't say on the disc if it's LB or ANA. How would I know?
Title: Re: HELP ON DIFFERENT DVD EDITIONS
Post by: weddingsingr on Oct 24, 2001 at 05:09 AM
The best way to determine the features of a particular title is looking at the disc details in Amazon or reviews in other DVD sites like DVDAngle.  Thes sites discuss the features more on detail based on their observation.  They even state which special feature is in mono, Dolby Surround, or Dolby Digital.

As for the various editions there are a lot of threads discussing these editions in details.

The only consistent things with the UE, CC, and SE would at least be that they have special features.

One thing for sure is that the CCs are priced higher, even up to 2x or even 10x (if out of print).  There are threads discussing CCs.  Also, not all CCs are in DTS. Armageddon CC is not but the DD sound is outstanding.

Though UE, CC, SE, CE, etc. editions are usually preferred, they do not guarantee that it contains the feature you are looking for like a certain special feature or if DTS or THX.  It really varies from one to another kaya we check the reviews to see kung talagang OK for us to buy it.

So what you need to do is determine your priority criteria in choosing a DVD.  Then see if the feature of the DVD edition fits your priority criteria.

If it fits, then pera and way to order na lang ang problema mo.
Title: Re: HELP ON DIFFERENT DVD EDITIONS
Post by: gladiator on Oct 25, 2001 at 02:58 AM
wedding,

Thanks for enlightening me on the subject of different editions. I just have 1 more question unanswered though with re to the picture formats. How do you know if the film is in anamorphic or letterboxed widescreen if its not indicated.

At times only the aspect ratio is stated and its not always the same even if the film is anamorphic or letterboxed. What does is it mean when it states presented in the original aspect ratio - is it anamorphic?

In WARNER DVDS sometimes it says "presented in a matted widescreen format"- what's this?

I'm fairly a newbie in the dvd world but I know you dvd gurus can help me out. thanks! :)
Title: Re: HELP ON DIFFERENT DVD EDITIONS
Post by: weddingsingr on Oct 25, 2001 at 09:11 AM
If it is R1 DVDs, you have to check with the disc details. But for R3 eh sad to say buy that if there is nothing indicating na anamorphic siya, most likely eh hindi.

I myself prefer the anamorphic kasi at least you have the option to make it widescreen with your player settings.
Title: Re: HELP ON DIFFERENT DVD EDITIONS
Post by: weddingsingr on Oct 25, 2001 at 09:16 AM
For the sound nga pala,as of date, if the R1 is not DTS, then hindi rin DTS ang R3. Kung may DTS and non-DTS ang R1, hindi DTS ang R3.

You have to always check the pack of the case to see if it is DTS. Take note that there was some confusion woth the first batch of Gladiator as there was a mention of DTS at the back of the cover but the DVD was not actually DTS.
Title: Help on Different DVD Editions: infinifilm/criterion/superbit/ultimate/special
Post by: dobler on Apr 18, 2001 at 01:05 AM
infinifilm:

Hey check this out:

www.infinifilm.com

 :o
Title: Newline Launches Infinifilm
Post by: Phobos on Apr 18, 2001 at 01:15 AM
Oh wow, a souped up version of The Matrix's "Follow The White Rabbit" Feature?

I think it's ok, as long as infinifilm DVDs can still play on our existing players and will have R3 counterparts.

Title: Newline Launches Infinifilm
Post by: firewired on Apr 18, 2001 at 05:04 AM
Hey dobler, now I know what you do during office hours! ;)

Anyway, Infinifilm works very much like an Interactive TV demo I saw last year. Instead of going back to the Main Menu of the disc to view Special Features, relevant options/extras are presented to you while you're watching the movie. This is a mixed blessing though since the pop-ups are pretty intrusive and can ruin the viewing experience.

Next thing you know we'll have pop-up advertisements in DVDs - especially if the film was heavily-sponsored.

Title: Newline Launches Infinifilm
Post by: benny on Apr 20, 2001 at 11:18 AM
As Thirteen Days seems to be the first title under the Infinifilm line, I think I'll order a copy.  Should be interesting, though I haven't seen the movie. (I pray the movie doesn't suck big time  ;) ) The trailer was okay though I'm not a big Kevin Costner fan - I doubt if there are still any ... (after Waterworld)

Must have for me anyway, is the dvd under the new Vista line - Unbreakable
Title: Newline Launches Infinifilm
Post by: benny on Oct 18, 2001 at 12:36 AM
Posting the titles now available:

(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005J760.01.THUMBZZZ.jpg) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005J760/ref=ase_pinoydvd-20) (http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005LDDD.01.THUMBZZZ.jpg) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005LDDD/ref=ase_pinoydvd-20) (http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00003CXWV.01.THUMBZZZ.jpg) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00003CXWV/ref=ase_pinoydvd-20) (http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00003CY5Y.01.THUMBZZZ.jpg) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00003CY5Y/ref=ase_pinoydvd-20)    
Title: Newline Launches Infinifilm
Post by: slowhand on Oct 18, 2001 at 06:01 PM
It looks impressive at first but I don't really like that format for the supplementals. There are interesting extra info, like for Thirteen Days. Pero nakadikit sila sa specific scenes. You have to watch the film again to see where the scenes with extras are. Parang some NBA DVDs. Siguro dapat kinumpol din nila sa isang menu para hindi mo na kailangan hanapin through fast forward.
Title: Newline Launches Infinifilm
Post by: gonz on Oct 18, 2001 at 06:48 PM
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Siguro dapat kinumpol din nila sa isang menu para hindi mo na kailangan hanapin through fast forward.

Slowhand, I own the Thirteen Days Infinifilm DVD.  You can view the scene-specific info sequentially, like a long documentary, without having to view the movie.  You can also jump to particular snippets of info in which you are interested.

As far as I'm concerned, Infinifilms is the most satisfying presentation of DVD extra features I've ever experienced, aside from Criterion Collection discs of course.  Too bad there aren't yet any good movies that have received the Infinifilm treatment.
Title: Newline Launches Infinifilm
Post by: Alfie on Oct 18, 2001 at 06:54 PM

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Too bad there aren't yet any good movies that have received the Infinifilm treatment.

GONZ, May I recommend "BLOW", If ever your'e interested in the Cocaine/Columbian problem in the USA. ;)
Title: Newline Launches Infinifilm
Post by: gonz on Oct 18, 2001 at 07:12 PM
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GONZ, May I recommend "BLOW", If ever your'e interested in the Cocaine/Columbian problem in the USA. ;)

As I said, no good movies have yet gotten the Infinifilm treatment.

Sorry Alfie, and thanks for the recommendation, but I found Blow to be predictable, cliché-ridden and poorly written. Penelope Cruz is but the latest in the long tradition of pretty faces without thespian talent (Catherine Zeta-Jones, that blond bimbo in Planet of the Apes, to name a few). The movie's only saving grace is Johnny Depp, and that's not enough to redeem it.

But this is off-topic, if you really want to go into it let's start a thread in the Film & TV Talk forum.  ;)
Title: Newline Launches Infinifilm
Post by: Alfie on Oct 18, 2001 at 07:22 PM

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As I said, no good movies have yet gotten the Infinifilm treatment.

Sorry Alfie, and thanks for the recommendation, but I found Blow to be predictable, cliché-ridden and poorly written. Penelope Cruz is but the latest in the long tradition of pretty faces without thespian talent (Catherine Zeta-Jones, that blond bimbo in Planet of the Apes, to name a few). The movie's only saving grace is Johnny Depp, and that's not enough to redeem it.

But this is off-topic, if you really want to go into it let's start a thread in the Film & TV Talk forum.  ;)

I was thinking more about the documentary incorporated in the Disc, not really to disect the film and all.
Title: Newline Launches Infinifilm
Post by: gonz on Oct 18, 2001 at 07:43 PM
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I was thinking more about the documentary incorporated in the Disc, not really to disect the film and all.

Now this is why ambiguity is the devil's plaything. ;) Sorry if I misunderstood you there, Alfie, but I submit that you should have mentioned "documentary" in your previous post.  Anyway, no harm no foul.  ;)
Title: Newline Launches Infinifilm
Post by: slowhand on Oct 19, 2001 at 04:10 AM
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Slowhand, I own the Thirteen Days Infinifilm DVD.  You can view the scene-specific info sequentially, like a long documentary, without having to view the movie.  You can also jump to particular snippets of info in which you are interested.


Thanks gonz. Hmmm, looks like I should pay more attention to DVDs already in my collection...
Title: Re:What's different between rated & unrated titles?
Post by: xage on Mar 19, 2002 at 10:52 AM
Saw the Tromeo and Juliet DVD.

In comaprison with the rated, all unrated feature were made as a special feature condsidered as cut from the original and a lot of skins!!.

Title: Re: What's different between rated & unrated title
Post by: NY152 on Mar 27, 2002 at 10:24 PM

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Buti na lang Unrated yung nabili ko, me kasama pang extra DVD ng Playboy Sneak peak...sneak-na-sneak talaga. he-he-he. ;D ;D


Huh??...Mine doesn't have that extra DVD you're talking about. The Unrated version only has a single disc containing the "making of" feature, etc. but no sneak peak disc.

Plus, weren't Penthouse models used in this movie (since it was a Bob Guccione production) and not Playboy models?


That was a misprint in the original reply, I'm sure he meant Penthouse and not Playboy.

When the Unrated Caligula was first released on DVD, two different editions were available. One, the "Limited Edition" (which cost $5 more), had an inserted extra DVD inside a sleeve: Penthouse: The Pet Store. The extra disc had previews for 12 other Penthouse DVD releases:

1. Pet of the Year Play-Off 2000
2. Fire and Ice
3. The Great Pet Hunt Part 1
4. Sexiest Amateur Video Centerfolds #1
5. 25th Anniversary Swimsuit Video
6. Kama Sutra Pleasures
7. Sun, Surf and Centerfolds
8. Girls of the Zodiac
9. Satin and Lace #1
10. Pet of the Year and Friends, Starring Nikie St. Gilles
11. Tropical Spice
12. Passport to Paradise

The previews are quite lengthy... well worth the extra $5! :)
Title: Newline Launches Infinifilm
Post by: benny on Jul 17, 2002 at 02:55 AM
Latest Infinifilm:

(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005JKWX.01.THUMBZZZ.jpg) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005JKWX/ref=ase_pinoydvd-20)

John Q. (Infinifilm Edition) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005JKWX/ref=ase_pinoydvd-20)

Plot summary, thanks to imdb (http://us.imdb.com/Plot?0251160):

John Quincy Archibald's son Michael collapses while playing baseball as a result of a heart failure. Immediately, John Q. rushes Michael to the hospital's emergency room for a transplant. Unfortunately, the insurance would not cover his son's transplant. So in order for Michael's quick and complete recovery, John takes the emergency room hostage until the doctors agree to get the transplant successful.

Film reviews : here. (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/JohnQ-1112554/)

Disc reviews:  dvdfile review (http://www.dvdfile.com/software/review/dvd-video_5/johnq.html)   dvdangle review (http://www.dvdangle.com/reviews/review.php?Id=2562)


"Give a father no options and you leave him no choice."


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Title: superbit dvds?
Post by: aln on Sep 29, 2002 at 10:15 PM
hi,

what is the difference with the other dvds and what superbit movies have you watched? is it really worth buying?

tnx,
aln
Title: Re:Infini/Superbit/Ultimate Ed/Special Ed?
Post by: Homeland on Sep 29, 2002 at 10:35 PM
I merged your new thread with this one. It should contain all of the answers you need. Next time, please use the "search" function first to avoid redundancies.

Thanks.
Title: infinifilm
Post by: euphyx on Oct 14, 2002 at 06:49 PM
what's infinifilm?  ???


[size=-3]Mod's note: I've merged your new thread with this old one. - Mod benny[/size]
Title: Re:infinifilm
Post by: bently on Oct 14, 2002 at 11:03 PM
What is infinifilm?
Infinifilm is a groundbreaking DVD brand designed for the moviegoer who wants the ultimate entertainment experience. Explore. Escape. Interact. Take your movie-watching experience to a whole new level and discover the fascinating facts and intriguing stories surrounding your favorite films!

Infinifilm is a...
...portal" to extra features and footage that expounds upon the movie's premise
...a unique, one-of-a-kind viewer-directed experience

How do you use infinifilm?
When the DVD is inserted into your DVD player, you may choose to do the following:
...Enjoy the movie independent of infinifilm
  features, as shown in theaters, with the
  highest quality picture and sound. We
  recommend watching the movie this
  way first!
...Watch the special features separately by
  accessing them directly from the main
  menu.
...Or... experience the film with the infinifilm
  option enabled.

What happens when the infinifilm option is enabled?
....The movie starts as it would if you were
  watching it normally.
....Throughout the film, prompts will pop up
  with one or more selections of extra content
  that relates to that scene in the movie
  (examples include interviews,
  behind-the-scenes footage, deleted
  scenes and more).
....Using your arrow keys on your DVD remote
  control, you may choose to watch this
  extra content.
....Once it is complete, you will return back
  to the movie - right where you left off!
....Or, if you do not care to watch the extra
  content, simply ignore the prompt and
  continue watching the movie.

How do I know if a DVD is an infinifilm DVD?
All New Line Home Entertainment infinifilm titles will be easily recognizable by the banner across the top of the DVD package.

heres the link to their website if you want to learn more
infinifilm.com (http://www.infinifilm.com/index3.html)
Title: Superbit DVDs -- worth it?
Post by: pure on Dec 04, 2002 at 11:03 AM
Superbit dvds are usually twice as expensive.  Is there really a big difference in the picture/sound quality?
Title: Re:Superbit DVDs -- worth it?
Post by: Kings on Dec 04, 2002 at 11:51 AM
yes!

(sorry for the curt answer) :)
Title: Re:Superbit DVDs -- worth it?
Post by: Mo®pHeOu$ on Dec 04, 2002 at 02:22 PM
 ;D ;D ;D

Superbit releases nowadays are really worth the money.  kasi they have the improved picture and sound quality and they have still included the added features on the 2nd disc unlike the previous releases of Superbits na single disc lang without the features.
Title: Re:Superbit DVDs -- worth it?
Post by: iskolar1 on Dec 05, 2002 at 10:20 AM
There's not much difference. Wait for high definition
DVD, it will blow you away. Will be out in 2 years.
Title: Re:Superbit DVDs -- worth it?
Post by: sgc_wdi on Dec 05, 2002 at 10:40 AM
question: people say Episode II has the best video quality found on DVDs because it was taken directly from a digital source... are superbits better than the quality found on episode II then?
Title: Re:Superbit DVDs -- worth it?
Post by: nerveblocker on Dec 08, 2002 at 07:52 AM
Well, it is true that Superbit DVDs really gobble a lot of disc space thus most of their discs has no special features.  But it also depends on the size of your viewing screen and audio equipment to really tell the difference.

IMHO, I'd rather have DVDs with the added features for I don't really have High end equipment anyway and only a measly 29 inch TV to watch my DVDs. ;D
Title: Re:Superbit DVDs -- worth it?
Post by: slowhand on Dec 08, 2002 at 03:55 PM
The conventional wisdom now is that the advantages of Superbit DVDs don't show up unless one has a large, high-quality monitor or projector, but if you do have such a system, the Superbits are supposed to be wonderful.
Title: Newline Launches Infinifilm
Post by: benny on Dec 16, 2002 at 11:49 AM
Latest Infinifilm release:

(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005JL2O.01._PE35_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005JL2O/ref=ase_pinoydvd-20)

Austin Powers in Goldmember (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005JL2O/ref=ase_pinoydvd-20)  $17.54 (35%)
Title: Marketing DVDs. :(
Post by: Krazyfu_tangerine on Mar 09, 2003 at 12:23 AM
What do you guys think about the marketing policies/ strategies most of the dvd manufacturers use to get more money from you. You know about releasing “new” Semi-old released DVDs by adding more features, extended versions, collectors versions. Etc… I know what they are doing is well and legal and yes it is how they make money (not to mention its how products recycle themselves). But I for one feel kind of well… cheated.

Do you think there will come a time where no ones going to buy the first released copy dvd because people would wait for the next better release?  Also do we have a RIGHT to complain????


Please erase my post if it’s already been discussed.
Title: Re:What's different between rated & unrated titles?
Post by: xage on Apr 06, 2003 at 05:20 PM
In compariso, with my unrated DVD of Killingme Softly and my rated VHS of it...

I say the unrated show more butts than the rated one  ;D
Title: CE??? SE???
Post by: MiKeBiBbY on Apr 23, 2003 at 02:29 PM
hello.

why are certain dvds labeled as "CE"? "SE"? what have you...

i mean, what makes a certain version "Collector's Edition" or "Special Edition"?  ???

is there anything common to all CEs and SEs? ???

anybody pls?  ???

thanks.
Title: Re:CE??? SE???
Post by: JhunDV on Apr 23, 2003 at 04:46 PM
A DVD is called Collector's or Special edition if it has a good number of special features like Making of Documentaries, Commentaries, Deleted Scenes, etc.  And usually having a remastered video and audio that makes it superior to the previous release of the movie (if any).  :)
Title: criterion collection, vista series, etc etc differences
Post by: byron on Jul 24, 2003 at 11:17 PM
Hi! I'm new in the world of R1 dvd collecting.  Just want to ask what the differences are or differentiators of versions of a title.  There are criterion collection versions; or vista series; etc etc...

what's the value add for the premium?

thanks!
Title: Re:criterion collection, vista series, etc etc differences
Post by: benny on Jul 25, 2003 at 12:11 AM
Welcome to Pinoydvd, byron.  :)

Please see :

Help on Different DVD Editions: infini/criterion/superbit/ultimate/special (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=9974)

The Criterion Collection (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=486)
Title: Re:criterion collection, vista series, etc etc differences
Post by: byron on Jul 25, 2003 at 01:08 AM
thanks benny!!! great info!
Title: Re: infini/criterion/superbit/ultimate ed/special
Post by: xage on Nov 25, 2003 at 11:42 AM
Ganito yan.

Infinifilm is a line of DVDs from New Line. This type of DVD usually contains loads of extras which are integrated into the movie itself (you can check out the extras while watching the movie in an immersive, interactive style), kaya everything is fit into a single DVD-9 disc. Some experts say that this results in lesser image quality, but this isn't necessarily true. Kung magaling yung pagka-encode, or short lang yung movie, di mo naman halata. I kinda like this line kasi no need for disc-swapping, and as far as I'm concerned the purported decrease in image quality is mostly negligible.

Why is it that despite The LOTR series being the highest grossing film of Newline was not treated for infinifilm? Im kinda confused yet they have released it for 5 discs insted?
Title: Re: infini/criterion/superbit/ultimate ed/special
Post by: CoolKidd on Jan 26, 2005 at 02:54 AM
Limited Editions, Superbit Collections, Final Edition, etc...

It really depends on what is you are willing to spend on it.  For example, I bought the Criterion Collection of Armageddon (2 Disc Set).  It was a good buy for me.  I enjoyed the movie and its feature rich extra features!  Then a DTS version came (from Japan) but without any features.  I immediately bought it as well because it is the only movie that incorporates full bitrate of 1509 kbps!  While the Criterion that I have only has 448 kbps.  Right now, my Armageddon R2 is one of the most sought after DVD!  I have a friend that is willing to buy my copy for $150!  Now, that is not bad! >:D
Title: Re: DVD Editions: infinifilm, criterion, superbit, ultimate, special, unrated
Post by: diver on Feb 09, 2005 at 11:27 AM

Hmmm seems like the trend with the studios nowadays is to bring out different types of DVDs aside from what you think is the ULTIMATE Edition na and here they come with another dvd, a few years after, that has something new again ( even an itsy bitsy part lang ) so that we collector's will have a difficult time deciding if we should let go of what we thought was the ultimate edition and it turns out meron pa palang lalabas na meron special thing again ... HAAAAAAAAY  ::)

That's the reason why I like Concert DVDs  ;D  There are fewer instances na you'll make "sisi" with what version you got kasi madalas there is ONLY one version or at the most 2 , kasi yung first one wala pang DTS before or the audio quality of the first one is not that great pa PLUS of course with Concert dvds .... Wooooo 1 to sawa yung watching mo over and over again  ;)

Haaaay with the trend nowadays, we need all the willpower to say NO, I will not get the new edition anymore kasi I'm super contented with what I have already.

Good Luck to all of us  ;D ::) >:( ;D




Title: Re: DVD Editions:infinifilm,criterion,superbit, vistaseries, limited, etc...
Post by: xage on Jun 10, 2005 at 09:14 AM
Add this to FOX's Collector's Edition

Try checking out FOX's "New releases/Re-releases Collector's Editions" lower left spines, it indicates what number amongst its library.


Below is the sample of the new numbering system by FOX to its Collector's Edition Library

(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0PwAAAGQSmD0T7bKWdamQG*PTJCN5ZLlRJ5ft9JCs6AV60OSvNcDpbdgTM7U5KwGRrjYoWGJUsnR*arhBlNLYSbZkSg*MnG3C/Fclub.JPG?dc=4675525841802382138)


Collector's Hidden Chase Set? probably .. IMHO its a $$$ spenditure.. chasing the library (deyyymmmm the latest ones.. Man On Fire,Day After Tommorow, I Robot are in it's late 20's number.. and if chased for complete collection.. is roughly cashin out around $$$500.00++ ..)
Title: Re: DVD Editions: infinifilm, criterion, superbit, ultimate, special, unrated
Post by: av_phile1 on Jun 10, 2005 at 02:42 PM
Hmmm seems like the trend with the studios nowadays is to bring out different types of DVDs aside from what you think is the ULTIMATE Edition na and here they come with another dvd, a few years after, that has something new again ( even an itsy bitsy part lang ) so that we collector's will have a difficult time deciding if we should let go of what we thought was the ultimate edition and it turns out meron pa palang lalabas na meron special thing again ... HAAAAAAAAY  ::)

That's the reason why I like Concert DVDs  ;D  There are fewer instances na you'll make "sisi" with what version you got kasi madalas there is ONLY one version or at the most 2 , kasi yung first one wala pang DTS before or the audio quality of the first one is not that great pa PLUS of course with Concert dvds .... Wooooo 1 to sawa yung watching mo over and over again  ;)

Haaaay with the trend nowadays, we need all the willpower to say NO, I will not get the new edition anymore kasi I'm super contented with what I have already.

Good Luck to all of us  ;D ::) >:( ;D



It's really the direction of studios to maximize their margins from any film they release or acquire.  Any corporation will want to do that, knowing there will always be suckers in their markets.  Not that there's anything wrong with that - i.e., their greed for profit and the market being suckers for the most part.  (I too am a sucker for the Saving Private Ryan commemorative edition.)  That's essentially manipulating the law of supply and demand.  My hats off for their marketing savvy.  ;D  It's really the responsibility of the buyers to educate themselves to discern what is of value among these reissues. 

TOY STORY has recently come out with its 10th anniversary edition a few years after coming out with a box set with TOY STORY 2.  I am sure within the next few months, they'll release a TS2 anniversary edition.  Then down the road, they'll release an ULTIMATE Box Set containing heretobefore unreleased footages and other special features.  Film Editing and archiving suddenly became a lucrative aspect of film making.  Little did the studio think those edited footages that went to the archives or the garbage would make profits for them when they restore these excised footages back for the DVD home markets.  And they probably won't restore all of them in one release.  Perhaps in 2 -3 releases.  The thread on R1 and R3 release is shot full of new releases of the same title.  Many have their merits.  I personally am in line for the special edition TITANIC.  However, many reissued titles don't seem to have much value.  Just my thoughts.
Title: Superbit
Post by: Haywire on Sep 25, 2005 at 05:39 AM
NEWBIE HERE  ;D ano po ba ibig sabihin ng superbit pag may nakalagay sa DVD?meron pa bang ibang sound format ng DVD bukod sa DTS/dolby digital?

Tnx
ALIKABOK :D
Title: Re: Superbit
Post by: purple_jedi on Sep 25, 2005 at 08:57 AM
check this site, alikabok http://www.hifi-writer.com/he/superbit/superbit.htm...and welcome to pinoydvd  :)
Title: Re: DVD Editions:infinifilm,criterion,superbit, vistaseries, limited, etc...
Post by: cel-shaded on Oct 11, 2005 at 03:24 PM
Kaya ba nawalan ng subtitles ang R1 na Rush Hour 2 dahil sa infinifilm (loads of extras on 1 DVD)? ???
Title: Re: DVD Editions:infinifilm,criterion,superbit, vistaseries, limited, etc...
Post by: techdude on Jun 24, 2006 at 10:17 PM
What about Vista and Five Stars Collection.  Are they just another series exclusive to a certain studio, and are both line still being supported with new titles?

The link posted by benny to the old PinoyDVD board is no longer working.  I don't know if that link contained the answers to my Q but I don't think Vista was discussed here, unless I skimmed over it...
Title: Re: DVD Editions:infinifilm,criterion,superbit, vistaseries, limited, etc...
Post by: chinoh151 on Jun 24, 2006 at 11:59 PM
Some editions I know:

Inifinifilm
Superbit
Special
Limited
Special Limited
Critereon
Rated
Unrated
Platinum
Aniversary
Premium
Universal Legacy
Legacy
Collector's
Ultimate
Ultimate Collector's
Special Collector's
Special Aniversary
Uncut
Director's Cut
Theatrical Cut
Extended / Extended Cut
Fox Cinema Classic
Fox Award Series
Marquee Musicals
Deluxe
Spcial Deluxe
Title: Re: DVD Editions:infinifilm,criterion,superbit, vistaseries, limited, etc...
Post by: RNIverson on Sep 25, 2006 at 01:15 PM
may pinadala po saking player na region 3 lang, is there any way to convert that to multi?pwera nalng kung bibili ako, sayang naman po ???

bro, mas maganda ata itanong yan sa HT thread  ;)


OT (sorry cant find any thread re superbit): how would i know if the film will be released in superbit edition? went to their site (http://www.sonypictures.com/cthe/superbit/) and titles in the coming soon link are movies to be released by sony  ???
Title: Re: DVD Editions:infinifilm,criterion,superbit, vistaseries, limited, etc...
Post by: techdude on Sep 25, 2006 at 01:30 PM
I think Superbit is a Sony technology.  And only select titles from Sony are encoded in Superbit.  I don't think other studios uses that compression technique...
Title: Re: DVD Editions:infinifilm,criterion,superbit, vistaseries, limited, etc...
Post by: RNIverson on Sep 25, 2006 at 01:42 PM
thanks sir. but i'd like to know exactly which new movies from Sony will have a superbit edition  :)
Title: Re: DVD Editions:infinifilm,criterion,superbit, vistaseries, limited, etc...
Post by: xage on Dec 16, 2006 at 01:23 PM
Add OOP and the re-release of an OOP.
Title: SUPERBIT
Post by: deadpool on Jul 12, 2008 at 11:11 AM
Superbit is a brand of premium DVD-Video versions of motion pictures from Columbia TriStar Home Video, a division of Sony. but what exactly is superbit? meron pa ba pabenta nito? i have seen pirated dvds that have superbit labels..are they the same with the original sony release? enlighten me please ;D
Title: Re: SUPERBIT
Post by: pchin on Jul 12, 2008 at 04:26 PM
Superbit is a brand of premium DVD-Video versions of motion pictures from Columbia TriStar Home Video, a division of Sony. but what exactly is superbit?

It seems you already read the reference from Wikipedia :)

Superbit: From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Superbit is a brand of premium DVD-Video versions of motion pictures from Columbia TriStar Home Video, a division of Sony. Superbit DVDs aim to improve picture quality over a standard DVD edition of a feature by increasing the bit rate of the encoded video. Audio quality is also improved by the mandatory inclusion of both Dolby Digital and DTS 5.1 surround audio tracks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superbit
Title: Re: SUPERBIT
Post by: deadpool on Jul 13, 2008 at 10:09 AM
yep galing sa wiki but i still need to know more in actuality.. sino ba dito meron superbit dvds and are they the same sa mga pirated superbit?
Title: Re: SUPERBIT
Post by: barrister on Jul 13, 2008 at 11:32 AM
meron pa ba pabenta nito?

Yes, marami pa.  Go to Astro outlets.


i have seen pirated dvds that have superbit labels..are they the same with the original sony release?

No, they are not.  Pirated Superbits are low-quality because they are compressed.     

Piracy discussions are prohibited here, so I can only answer very briefly.


Superbit is a brand of premium DVD-Video versions of motion pictures from Columbia TriStar Home Video, a division of Sony. but what exactly is superbit?

It is no longer a "premium DVD version". 

It used to be a premium, but not anymore.  Today, regular DVD releases have even higher quality than the Superbits.



Here's my old post:



Actually, Superbit is yesterday's gimmick.

I've been itching to post something about Superbit for the longest time, I just didn't know where to post it.  This may be slightly OT, but I guess this would be a good time to discuss it, since we're discussing how the quality of the SD DVD can affect the upscaling performance of the Oppo.   


=========================================================


The maximum peak bitrate for SD DVD is 9.8 Mbps.

Professionally encoded DVDs, which comply with proper DVD specs, have a very safe average bitrate of 4 to 5 Mbps for relatively static content; and, to avoid pixellation, a maximum average bitrate of 7 to 8 Mbps for high-action content.

Encoding at rates higher than those specifications results in lower compatibility with various players, and increases likelihood of buffer underruns.

DVD specifications from mpeg.org: http://www.mpeg.org/MPEG/DVD/Book_B/Video.html

According to this site: http://people.csail.mit.edu/tbuehler/video/MPEG-2.html, a major concern is that high bitrate encodings sometimes result in juddering/stuttering and skipping. To avoid this, a maximum average video bitrate of 7 Mbps is recommended; or up to 8 Mbps for high-action content.

When DVD was introduced, the early encodings had an average bitrate of about 3 to 5 Mbps.

Columbia TriStar Home Video, a division of Sony, introduced a premium DVD brand, and called it "Superbit".  Since the DVD standard can handle up to 8Mbps,  Superbit DVDs improve picture quality over a standard DVD edition feature by increasing the bitrate of the encoded video to a safe maximum average bitrate of 7 Mbps.  Audio formats of both Dolby Digital and DTS 5.1 were made mandatory on Superbit titles.

According to Superbit, their DVDs are encoded at a bitrate approximately twice as high (6-7 Mbit/s) as standard DVDs, which helps minimize artifacts caused by video compression and allow the image to be pre-filtered less prior to compression, which results in more detail. To maximize space for the main feature, static menus are used and commentary tracks are removed.

The high bitrate slightly improved picture quality; however, the complaint against Superbit was the lack of special features. 

Soon thereafter, titles such as "Gladiator" showed Superbit how it should be done.  Universal released Gladiator in a 2-disc DVD with a healthy bitrate, with both DD and DTS, and with a load of special features.  Other studios followed with their own 2-disc versions. 

Superbit slowly became irrelevant.  Other studios can release multiple-disc versions with 8 Mbps bitrates, with DD and DTS soundtracks and special features.  What's so great about Superbit with 8 Mbps bitrate and no special features?  They can't go higher than 8Mbps without causing playback problems on existing DVD players, so they're stuck with a spec that no longer commands a premium.

Realizing their irrelevance, the Superbit line followed up with Superbit Deluxe, which bundled a Superbit-quality feature with a second disc containing the special features.

What's so great about that?  Other studios had already been doing the same, and without the Superbit price tag premium.  Today, 8 Mbps bitrates or slightly higher are common for new releases of regular SD DVDs.

Finally realizing that they can no longer charge a premium for something that other studios can do at regular prices, Sony Pictures discontinued the Superbit line on January 18, 2007.
 
Sony officially drops Superbit line
Brand was an 'interim bridge' toward high-defintion Blu-ray Disc
By Susanne Ault -- Video Business, 1/18/2007

JAN. 18 | Sony Pictures Home Entertainment has retired its Superbit line in order to promote its Blu-ray Disc format.

The studio’s last produced new Superbit disc was the April 2005 release of theatrical circus series Cirque du Soleil.


http://www.videobusiness.com/index.asp?layout=article&articleid=CA6408427


When they dropped the Superbit, Sony's official line was, “It was always an interim bridge strategy to get people excited about what high-def would be looking like in 2006 and 2007”.  :D

Title: Re: SUPERBIT
Post by: pchin on Jul 13, 2008 at 11:36 AM
are they the same sa mga pirated superbit?

deadpool, it's against forum rules to discuss "pirated" issues.

You can refer to such similar discussion here:
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=74311.0