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Title: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MeowPao on Mar 12, 2002 at 04:45 AM
Here are comparison charts for the new Yamaha Receivers:

Yamaha RXV 730, 630, 530, 430 (http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/compare/recvr_9.htm)
The RXV 730 has an SRP of $599, while the 620 has an SRP of $499; 530 = $399, 430 = $299  :o (!!!!!).
And knowing how SRP works, the street price will certainly be a lot lower!  ;)

This chart is for their more or less near the top:

Yamaha RXZ1, RXV 3200, 2200, 1200 (http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/compare/receiver_8.htm)

And the older ones, that are currently on SALE, so you guys who are on a budget, check this out:

Yamaha RXV800, 620, 520, 420 (http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/compare/receiver_5.htm)
Title: Re: Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: levi on Mar 12, 2002 at 05:03 AM
Meowpao,

   I hope you dont mind that I edited the title. Thanks


levi
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: levi on Mar 26, 2002 at 12:29 AM
According to Oliver of Listening Room, the new receivers of Yamaha will be available by next week. For interested buyers, I suggest you wait for it, so you can check them out before you decide to buy.


Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: mm2002 on Mar 26, 2002 at 01:02 AM
Thanks Levi for the info, may oras pa para magipon pangupgrade  ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: don on Mar 26, 2002 at 09:06 AM
Can't wait to audition these receivers...  :P
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: dagul on Mar 26, 2002 at 11:04 AM
nagbigay na sila ng approx prices?
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: don on Mar 27, 2002 at 09:26 AM
sabi sa Listening Room Megamall, 530 and 730 lang yung dadating na receivers...

forecast for 530 is around 21k pababa.   ;)
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: allenars on Mar 27, 2002 at 10:07 AM
Actually i prepare to buy the yamaha 1200 with a combination of a good speaker system, what do guys suggest for a good speaker, B&W 600S3 or Mission M5(di ko pa alam kung meron na to and where can i find the stores for the mission speakers)?

need a little advise...thanks!
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: gaol on Mar 27, 2002 at 10:30 AM

Actually i prepare to buy the yamaha 1200 with a combination of a good speaker system, what do guys suggest for a good speaker, B&W 600S3 or Mission M5(di ko pa alam kung meron na to and where can i find the stores for the mission speakers)?

need a little advise...thanks!



For the Missions, check out DCM Audio in Cubao and look for Melvin Chua, the owner. DDCM is the official distributor of Mission here in the Philippines.

Missions are also available in Sights and Sounds and Upscale Audio, to name a few.

GAOL



Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Blade on Mar 27, 2002 at 10:58 AM
hey bro,

since "the home theater" will be opening on april 16 you can visit also sound & cinema at dian/v. cruz makati. you can PM stuazon and ask what speakers are on display aside from B&W, Misssion, and JM Labs.

$ 0.02

Blade. 8)
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: allenars on Mar 27, 2002 at 11:01 AM
thanks guys! but do know the telephone numbers of DCM Audio and Sound&Cinema? mas maganda i'll call first before i'll check the speakers available.

maraming salamat!
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: gaol on Mar 27, 2002 at 11:35 AM

thanks guys! but do know the telephone numbers of DCM Audio and Sound&Cinema? mas maganda i'll call first before i'll check the speakers available.

maraming salamat!


Allenars,

Here's the number for DCM:

dcm - cubao=9115903; 4384994 - melvin

For a comprehensive list of AV stores, check out:

Directory of AV Stores (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=11;action=display;threadid=1784)

GAOL

Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: allenars on Mar 27, 2002 at 11:37 AM
salamat! i'll call now ;)
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: gaol on Mar 27, 2002 at 11:43 AM

salamat! i'll call now ;)


No problem, allenars! (ang bilis a, hehe)

Balitaan mo ako about the Mission M5s kung meron na si melvin and kung magkano siya -- para mabisita ko, hehe.

I myself have a hybrid Mission m7x cinema setup (m74 for fronts, 77c1 for center, and the bipolar m7ds for surrounds).  ;D

GAOL
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: allenars on Mar 27, 2002 at 11:53 AM
hi gaol,

tumawag na ako wala pa yun M5 series M70 lang meron and itong M70 kasi malaysia assemble lang. ang price ng M70 20T M74, 13T yun rear and center 7200.

tanong natin kay sonny kung sa opening ng THE HOME THEATER ay meron M5 series silang ilalabas kasi ito UK made na.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: gaol on Mar 27, 2002 at 12:32 PM

hi gaol,

tumawag na ako wala pa yun M5 series M70 lang meron and itong M70 kasi malaysia assemble lang. ang price ng M70 20T M74, 13T yun rear and center 7200.

tanong natin kay sonny kung sa opening ng THE HOME THEATER ay meron M5 series silang ilalabas kasi ito UK made na.


palagay ko wala pa rin siya, kasi alam ko si melvin ang nagpapasok niyan dito (nakalista pa nga siya sa mission site).

natanong mo ba kay melvin kung kelan dadating yung shipment? bagong-bago pa kasi yan (wala pa akong nabasang reviews) kaya malamang mga mid-year pa at the earliest.

yan yata ang papalit sa 77 series ng mission....

GAOL
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: stuazon on Mar 27, 2002 at 12:34 PM
HI,

    Yes, the MISSIONs will be available on opening day, but not the M5s yet. We'll keep everybody posted.

     Meanwhile, you can contact us at SOUND & CINEMA at tel. no. 524-8631. We'll also have an OPENING DAY SALE on April 16 at  " THE HOME THEATER."

      SEE YOU ALL there!!!

                                                                   SONNY G. T.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: allenars on Mar 27, 2002 at 04:10 PM
gaol, kung gusto mong magbasa punta sa website nila  www.mission.co.uk
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: gaol on Mar 27, 2002 at 04:57 PM

gaol, kung gusto mong magbasa punta sa website nila  www.mission.co.uk



Suki ako diyan sa site na yan, allenars.  ;D

What is there are just product specs, and although they have a page listing their awards, there are no product reviews, nor links to sites with reviews.

I'm sure What Hifi and Hifi Choice will be reviewing the M5 series soon....

GAOL
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: levi on Apr 20, 2002 at 06:14 PM
Repost from another thread


Is P16K a good price for the RX-V520? How about P16,600 for the RX-V430? And..P14,500 for the RX-V420?


Any stores with lower prices on these receivers?
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: levi on Apr 20, 2002 at 06:16 PM
Repost from another thread


Mc,

Please check your e-mail for RXV430 @ P14.5k.

cybermms ;)

Is P16K a good price for the RX-V520? How about P16,600 for the RX-V430? And..P14,500 for the RX-V420?


Any stores with lower prices on these receivers?

Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: levi on Apr 20, 2002 at 06:17 PM
Reposting.......


choosing between the RX-V520 and 430: 430 has lower max power but has better features (6.1 matrix decoding), while the 520 has a higher power rating, but a rather old model.......decisions to make :)
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: stuazon on Apr 25, 2002 at 08:05 AM
Hi Guys,

          Check out the postings made by vax regarding GROUP BUYERS. We're going to have a session on Friday afternoon at THE HOME THEATER, 812-5235. Plase call for prices of the various models of YAMAHA.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: MeowPao on May 08, 2002 at 03:44 PM
bump!  :)
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: don on May 09, 2002 at 09:24 AM
Hi Meow - I just bought a Yammie, just like yours. para makatulog ako ng mahimbing  ;D Can't wait to play with it, when I get home.

don
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Courage on May 09, 2002 at 11:07 AM
don,

yung 630 ba binili mo? kung yun nga..grabe inggit ako....di pa kasi nakapag intay eh ehehehehe
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: silhouette on May 09, 2002 at 11:48 AM
Sirs,

I'm also planning to purchase either the 430 or 530, though I was told that there's really not much difference between the two, except for the price (4k ++).
What do I really loose if I choose the 430 over 530?  I hope you guys can help a newbie!

Also, do Yamaha 430 or 530 series has a Denon counterpart?

Thanks and Regards,
Silhouette
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: kawboy on May 09, 2002 at 12:22 PM
Don,
balita naman, 630 nga ba kinuha mo?  :)
1200 yung kay Meow di ba?

Silhouette,
ur right, wala gaano, puro connections lang;
banana plug compatible na speaker terminals,
3 optical for 530 instead of 1 for the 430,
at monitor output terminal w/ HDTV compatibility.
di ko lang sure kung meron pang iba...
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: don on May 09, 2002 at 01:24 PM
kawboy, and GLXi95 -  RX-V1200 yung binili ko, wala pang stock nung 630 only 730. I decided to purchase the 1200 kasi kumpleto na siya ng new features (6.1 discrete, DTS Neo, etc... unlike sa 730 & 630 6.1 matrix lang.)

silhouette - tama si kawboy yung 430 isa lang optical input, tsaka wala siyang DAC (96/24).. With regards sa formats na ma-decode niya, same lang. I think counterpart is the Denon 1602.

Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: silhouette on May 09, 2002 at 01:35 PM
Don/Kawboy,

Thanks so much!  Any advice though as to what to partner a Mission M73?  Yamaha...or Denon... model?  Have a budget of P20-25k max.

Thanks again,
Silhouette
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: MeowPao on May 09, 2002 at 01:55 PM
Hi Don!

2 na tayo may model na ito!  :)
Ano comments mo sa model?

I'm quite sure that an upgrade will be years away... sulit ang machine na ito! :)
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: don on May 09, 2002 at 02:54 PM

Hi Don!

2 na tayo may model na ito!  :)
Ano comments mo sa model?

I'm quite sure that an upgrade will be years away... sulit ang machine na ito! :)


Hi Meow! - Yupyup! ;D I haven't tested it yet,  pero sa built palang ng model nato. Ibang klase talaga (ang bigat!).

That's one of main reasons why I bought the unit, it will be years bago mag-upgrade. (saves you money, in the long run)  ;D I'll let you know tomorrow, test ko siya tonight  ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: don on May 09, 2002 at 06:18 PM

Don/Kawboy,

Thanks so much!  Any advice though as to what to partner a Mission M73?  Yamaha...or Denon... model?  Have a budget of P20-25k max.

Thanks again,
Silhouette


call Sonny at 812-5235, meron din silang Mission M73. I'm sure alam niya kung anung babagay  ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Courage on May 10, 2002 at 08:23 AM
don,

wowieeee rxv-1200 pala kinuha mo....galing galing mo naman...eheheheh....nanliliit tuloy reciever ko parang akoy naka Lancer GLXi lang tapos ikaw eh naka Lancer Evolution 7 ehehehehehe...any way kwento naman pag na testing mo....ako siguro eh taon na ulit bago makapag upgrade....although medyo pinapapagisip ako nang DPL2.....dont know kung worth it ba na palitan ko na agad itong reciever ko nang may DPL 2.........grabe talaga......maybe i should stop going on line para di na ako makapag basa dito...eheheheheh....mga tukso.....:)
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: killer_eyes on May 10, 2002 at 10:19 AM
glxi

pare oks lang yan enjoy mo muna yung system mo...pero ako nga din nag babalak bumili ng new system canvas ako next week hehehe.... sana magkapera na para next month makabili na ako ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: killer_eyes on May 10, 2002 at 10:20 AM
glxi

pare oks lang yan enjoy mo muna yung system mo...pero ako nga din nag babalak bumili ng new system canvas ako next week hehehe.... sana magkapera na para next month makabili na ako ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: killer_eyes on May 10, 2002 at 10:22 AM
glxi

pare oks lang yan enjoy mo muna system mo....  pero hirap talaga no... ako din gusto ko na mag upgrade probably nexth month ok na ;D ipon lang ng kaunti
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: don on May 10, 2002 at 11:46 AM
Meow - ok na ok, maraming controls na mapaglalaruan... but mukhang medyo matatagalan ang pag-calibrate  :o I like the center geq, tsaka yung dsp modes maririnig mo talaga yung changes sa effects. Meow, tips na naman diyan  sa settings ;D

GLXi95 - Try listening to DPL2 first, pag talagang gusto mo. call Sonny of HomeTheater pwedeng trade in ata.  ;D You'll get a good deal. ;)
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: kawboy on May 10, 2002 at 01:57 PM
Don, Congrats!  :) pare, parang puyat ka a,   ;D  kino-convince din akong mag 1200 ni Sonny, matatagalan pa raw yung 630 e.

GLXi95 - tara pre, sama ka EB sa 18th. silipin natin yung The Home Theater.
dalhin mo na rin yung 520 mo, para-ma-i-trade na, layo pa ng panggagalingan mo e. para isang puntahan na lang!
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Courage on May 10, 2002 at 02:07 PM
killer,

pre ano ba plano mong bilhin? siguradong di ka mahihirapan kasi alam kong malaki budget mo ehehehehehee....oi sama mo rin sa budget mo pasalubong mo sa amin ha ehehehe ;D

kawboy,

San ba gaganapin yun? san lugar? pasensya na ha...medyo syano ako eh...ehehehe? Magkano kaya idadagdag ko pag nagtrade in ako to rxv -630?

Don,

nung nag tanong ka ke sonny magkno 630? Kaya sana gusto ko nang DPL2 is bec. di naman ganun kadami ang DVD ko eh..kalimitan VHS at VCD ang akin...isa pa walang marentan nang DVD dito...which means baka paminsan minsan lang ako makapanood nang DVD or antay lang lagi nang padala galing sa utol ko.

Worth it ba talaga ang DPL2 sa mga VCD,VHS at CD's? Malayo ba talaga ang pag kakaiba sa DPL kapag VCD at cd ang pinatutugtog?
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: g3lo on May 10, 2002 at 02:36 PM
uy... pede pala mag trade-in dun sa The Home Theater? Ako din gusto ko trade-in yung RX-V420 ko.... magkano kaya ang dadagdag ko? i find the 420 loud on  mid frequencies eh. I would like to get a receiver that sounds good even if the bass and treble settings are flat. Any suggestions ppl?
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: kawboy on May 10, 2002 at 02:44 PM
GLXi95,

pre, i sent you a pm  ;)
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Courage on May 10, 2002 at 02:47 PM
g3lo,

pre ganda naman nang 420 ah...halos pareho yan nang akin....ang reason ko lang kasi kaya gusto kong mag upgrade is bec of the DPL2 and syempre pati yung mga nadagdag dun na ibang format...kasi nga..konti lang ang DVD's ko kalimitan VCD at MHS ang pinapanood ko...
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: g3lo on May 10, 2002 at 02:57 PM
pareng GLXi95,
Relatively the yammy is very good. Siguro nde lang talaga ako satisfy. I want something that produces the raw sound of the movie even on flat settings. Actually, I dont use the DSP settings of the yammy. Lagi lang naka Normal ang setting ko for DVD and Effects Off on Audio-CD.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: don on May 10, 2002 at 03:09 PM

Don, Congrats!  :) pare, parang puyat ka a,   ;D  kino-convince din akong mag 1200 ni Sonny, matatagalan pa raw yung 630 e.



hehehe!  ;D oonga puyat na puyat  :P tinesting ko yung Diana Krall na binili ko kay Sonny, ang ganda!!!  :) sent you a pm.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Courage on May 10, 2002 at 03:15 PM
g3lo,

pareho pala tayo..i also dont use DSP....normal din ako palagi....

Pare try mo ang denon 1602...ganda nang reviews dito nang denon..medyo mahal lang nang konti sa 520 pero meron namang makukuhanan dito nang mura eh.....isa pa naka DPL2 na yun....

Sa dyaryo kanina nakita ko nag sale ang Home Cinema.

Onkyo TX-DS494
100 w * 5
DTS,Dolby Digital(AC-3), Dolby Prologic 2
5.1 Multichannel Input
7 DSP Modes
DL-5 Sattellite SPeakers
SL-105 60 Watts Active Sub

28,950php Old Price is 38,300php..

Nabasa ko lang yan sa Inquirer..di ko lang alam kung maganda tumuinog yan..although nakita ko na yung unit na yan kahapon sa Town Center..di ko lang na Audition...tapos nakita ko nga ngayon na sinale pala...

Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: kawboy on May 10, 2002 at 05:57 PM

hehehe!  ;D oonga puyat na puyat  :P tinesting ko yung Diana Krall na binili ko kay Sonny, ang ganda!!!  :) sent you a pm.



pare, replied to your pm.   :)
baka punta ako ng eb sa 18th  ;)
bahala na!!  ::)
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Courage on May 11, 2002 at 08:17 AM
don,

pre me tanong lang ako. i was playing with the yamaha's dsp kahapon bakit parang di ko makita ang difference nang dgtl spectacle, dgtl sci-fi, dgtl adventure, dgtl general though puro kwentuhan lang ang scene nang pinapanood ko...which means  laging center lang ang may tunog? yung effect ba nung mga dsp na yun  eh dun mo lang maririnig sa effects speakers and walang masyadong changes sa tunog sa center? hindi katulad nung mono movie na dsp na dinig na dinig mo changes sa center. pag naka mono movie yung center speaker eh nag karoon nang reverb which makes u feel na nasa loob ka nang sinehan. na mas nagustuhan ni misis ang tunog.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Courage on May 13, 2002 at 10:07 AM
bump
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: killer_eyes on May 13, 2002 at 10:17 AM
glxi pare sinagot mo na ba yung post ko sa MPC?

pare nag dadalawang isip ako kung ano bibiling reciever this week end na ako bibili eh.... denon avr682 or rxv430 almost the same price sila
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: don on May 13, 2002 at 10:24 AM

don,

pre me tanong lang ako. i was playing with the yamaha's dsp kahapon bakit parang di ko makita ang difference nang dgtl spectacle, dgtl sci-fi, dgtl adventure, dgtl general though puro kwentuhan lang ang scene nang pinapanood ko...which means  laging center lang ang may tunog? yung effect ba nung mga dsp na yun  eh dun mo lang maririnig sa effects speakers and walang masyadong changes sa tunog sa center? hindi katulad nung mono movie na dsp na dinig na dinig mo changes sa center. pag naka mono movie yung center speaker eh nag karoon nang reverb which makes u feel na nasa loob ka nang sinehan. na mas nagustuhan ni misis ang tunog.


> dgtl spectacle, dgtl sci-fi, dgtl adventure, dgtl general

I haven't tried watching with these modes yet, pero I think lahat ng channels maapektuhan. I'll try it when I get home, I'll let you know. :)

don
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Courage on May 13, 2002 at 10:58 AM
Don,

pre compare mo sa mono movie na dsp ang mga yan. Listen to the dialogue kung may difference. Parang yung tunog kasi nang mono movie feeling mo nasa loob ka nang sinehan eh pag may dialogue while yung dgtl spectle, sci-fi..etc parang normal sound ang dialogue mapwere sa effects.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Courage on May 14, 2002 at 04:21 PM
Don,

pre anong nangyari na? na testing mo na ba?....Bakit parang walang pag babago sa Center channel....Mains at rear lang ang nagbabago whenever magpalit ako nang DSP.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: optimusprime on May 17, 2002 at 06:33 AM

Don/Kawboy,

Thanks so much!  Any advice though as to what to partner a Mission M73?  Yamaha...or Denon... model?  Have a budget of P20-25k max.

Thanks again,
Silhouette


according dito sa ADELPHI singapore... yamaha or denon ay walang problema sa mission speaker ..kaya lang depende sa model na gagamitin mo.. i suggest yun rxv *30 series ng yamaha o 1602 or 1802 ng denon..
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: silhouette on May 17, 2002 at 09:05 AM
Thanks brothers for your help!  :D  I already decided and bought Denon 1802.  I can't wait to set it up and hear it in my humble place.

Silhouette
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: optimusprime on May 19, 2002 at 11:27 PM

uy... pede pala mag trade-in dun sa The Home Theater? Ako din gusto ko trade-in yung RX-V420 ko.... magkano kaya ang dadagdag ko? i find the 420 loud on  mid frequencies eh. I would like to get a receiver that sounds good even if the bass and treble settings are flat. Any suggestions ppl?


bossing try mo yun bagong yamaha rxv *30 series nila.. mukhang yun ang hinahanap mo.. rxv630 gamit ko. and so far im very very satisfied sa sound quality.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: tonedeaf on May 22, 2002 at 10:42 AM
thx_ultra,

kumusta ang yamaha rx v630 sa audio/music?  what speakers did you pair with it?
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: optimusprime on May 22, 2002 at 08:15 PM

thx_ultra,

kumusta ang yamaha rx v630 sa audio/music?  what speakers did you pair with it?



pre kung sa movie la ako masabi.... kaya da best pa rin ang yamaha kung sa movie ang pag uusapan.. kung sa audio naman.... hmmmm i think 8 out of 10 ang rating ko. i pair it with mission speaker. yun m70 series. actually noon nagtanong ako sa dealer ( KEC Sound System) bago ko bilhin yun din ang sabi nila sa akin. "its excellent in movie and just ok for music".  
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: tonedeaf on Jun 12, 2002 at 11:13 AM
new reviews on the rx-v630 at audioreview.com

http://www.audioreview.com/PRD_130571_2718crx.aspx

Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: levi on Jun 28, 2002 at 09:54 PM
Reposting


My friend is selling me his used Yamaha RX-V795A for 15,000.  I was wondering if this is an excellent type of receiver and is the price of the amp a reasonable one?
I'm new at this home theater thing so I can't decide on my own.  I'd appreciate any help from you guys, thanks. :)
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: levi on Jun 28, 2002 at 09:56 PM
Reposting


Yamaha RX-V795A
(1999 model)
specs:

5.1 channel A/V receiver featuring Dolby Pro Logic, Dolby Digital, and DTS surround decoding in addition to DSP processing

5 channels rated at 85W RMS each (8 Ohms), 20 Hz - 20 kHz, 0.04% THD

Features 5.1 channel input, preamplifier outputs for all channels

----------------------

kiko, check out the newer models of Yamaha... (with Pro Logic II and  6.1)

The entry-level on the newer models is the RX-V430... it's within the 15k price range.

don


Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: levi on Jun 28, 2002 at 09:57 PM
Reposting


kiko, pareho lang pala tayo na newbie!

IMHO, konting dagdag na lang meron ka nang bnew na receiver...
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: levi on Jul 02, 2002 at 10:33 PM
Reposting


To AUDIO/VIDEO enthusiast.

I want to upgrade my 3-year old AUDIO/VIDEO system ONKYO SV-THXSV828 w/ external Dolby Digital Decoder (Japan made) to YAMAHA BRAND but I'm confused because there are some Malasian made and some models are ON-SALE, feel ko medyo less quality.

Any comment/suggestions will be much appreciated.

DANNY BATALLONES of ABS-CBN  


Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: levi on Jul 02, 2002 at 11:05 PM
Hello Danny,

     Its hard to say which Yamaha model is the best. I think its what will suit your needs. How big is your room, what is your budget, what features do you want etc etc. If you want the best usually its there flagship model. Try to audition them and you will know what is best for you. It would be better if you can narrow down your choice then other members can give you more reviews. Just my 1 cent thanks.

levi
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: luther on Jul 03, 2002 at 07:27 AM

Pare try mo ang denon 1602...ganda nang reviews dito nang denon..medyo mahal lang nang konti sa 520 pero meron namang makukuhanan dito nang mura eh.....isa pa naka DPL2 na yun....

Sa dyaryo kanina nakita ko nag sale ang Home Cinema.

Onkyo TX-DS494
100 w * 5
DTS,Dolby Digital(AC-3), Dolby Prologic 2
5.1 Multichannel Input
7 DSP Modes
DL-5 Sattellite SPeakers
SL-105 60 Watts Active Sub

28,950php Old Price is 38,300php..


try checking out the onkyo tx sr-600... best bang for ur buck IMHO
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: antoy on Jul 17, 2002 at 08:56 PM
What do you guys think of the Yamaha RX-V995?
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: baygon on Jul 19, 2002 at 05:30 AM
Guys,

San may pinakamura na rx-v430? sa listening 16k na lng.  Tsaka yung rx-v530 na rin.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Jick on Jul 20, 2002 at 04:46 AM

Guys,

San may pinakamura na rx-v430? sa listening 16k na lng.  Tsaka yung rx-v530 na rin.


Try in Ambassador Appliance in Vira Mall.  I Wharfedale 8.3 and diamond center channel and the RXV430for 25,500 total.  I think it came up to 15,300 for the RXV430.

Jovi
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: john5479 on Jul 21, 2002 at 11:28 AM
Hi! any suggestion on what to buy from the following? rxv630, rxv730, rxv800, to mods you can delete my thread now. thanks!
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: don on Jul 22, 2002 at 11:03 AM

Hi! any suggestion on what to buy from the following? rxv630, rxv730, rxv800, to mods you can delete my thread now. thanks!


sent you a pm.  ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: ArchitecturalAudio on Jul 23, 2002 at 12:06 PM
FoXyyy,

Please check your PM.

Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: aRujoN on Aug 06, 2002 at 03:46 AM
Does the 430/530 have a 5 channel stereo option?
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: USP on Aug 06, 2002 at 04:36 PM

Does the 430/530 have a 5 channel stereo option?


yes they do. it's one of the built-in DSP modes
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Philander on Aug 18, 2002 at 03:55 AM
Hello, I am planning to get the Yamaha 430 or a 530 at any Yamaha and PerfectPitch stores to avail the 0% interest, 1 year to pay.

How much is the price difference of the two?
Is the 530 with regards to the added features is worth over the 430 thinking of the added amount?

Is DAC necessary for a receiver, I think my DVD player is 92khz/24-bit capable; if I use the 430 here(my player), is it the same with the quality with the 530?
Im sorry, I dont know about the DAC thing. Please enlighten me.

Can I use 150watts speaker at these receivers?

Thanks
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: listener on Aug 18, 2002 at 07:21 PM
Is DAC necessary for a receiver, I think my DVD player is 92khz/24-bit capable; if I use the 430 here(my player), is it the same with the quality with the 530?
Im sorry, I dont know about the DAC thing. Please enlighten me.

Can I use 150watts speaker at these receivers?

Thanks

Philander

look at it this way...without the DAC of the receiver or the DVD player, all that you would hear is a Digital output which is NOISE.  You can throw away the specs of the DAC of your DVD player because that is automatically bypassed when you connect it to the Yamaha receiver via a Digital coax cable or a Fiber optic cable. Yung DAC na nung receiver ang gumagawa ng conversion when connected this way.  Yes by all means you can use your 150 watt speakers with the Yamaha receiver. Just make sure that you do not push the built in amp to its limits otherwise clipping may occur which can quickly destroy the voicecoils of your speaker drivers. How do you know if the amp is clipping? When the sound is distorted na turn down the volume.

just my .02 cents ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Philander on Aug 19, 2002 at 01:22 AM
Thanks listener.

But I am asking for the DAC of the 530 and the 430, are they the same?

I looked at the specifications of the two: the 530 included the 92kHz/26bit DAC while in the 430, its absent (or maybe I overlooked it).

Again, what should I purchase between the two? Suggest please.

Thanks.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: listener on Aug 19, 2002 at 08:46 AM
philander

chances are both the 530 and the 430 have the same D/A converters since they both come from the same model lineup.. If budget permits then might as well get the 530 na since it is more loaded with extra functions and additional amp power if im not mistaken. You can never have too much power.... ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: firewired on Aug 21, 2002 at 12:48 PM
PinoyDVD will be doing a promo soon on the Yamaha RXV-430 and RXV-530 receivers. We're just waiting for word on final pricing from the dealer. Hopefully they'll give us a sweet deal.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Philander on Aug 21, 2002 at 01:04 PM
PinoyDVD will be doing a promo soon on the Yamaha RXV-430 and RXV-530 receivers. We're just waiting for word on final pricing from the dealer. Hopefully they'll give us a sweet deal.

Glad to hear that! Can I make a reservation now for the 430?
Thanks.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: firewired on Aug 22, 2002 at 08:32 AM
We'll formally announce the promo next week. Units are available only at ASTROPLUS in Podium. Just walk in and say that you're a PinoyDVD member. Price is comparable to what you'd get with other dealers without the haggling:
I'll confirm whether you can take advantage of the promo pricing this week.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: shine on Aug 30, 2002 at 03:38 AM
Hi guys,

Good day!!

I'm planning to get Yamaha RXV-430 for this week also. Lowest price i canvass was at sights and Sound Shagri-la at around P15,500. I'll visit the ambassador at viramall bye weekends.

Would you suggest their NS-7390 speaker to be used as a sorround? BTW, I'm using a vintage NS-1000M series as my main.

Thinking to build all yamaha setup. Any comments/reactions on that? Thanks a lot. And thanks to someone who referred to me the pinoydvd.com.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: foxyyy on Aug 30, 2002 at 04:12 AM
guys, do you know where i can buy the cheapest RX-V520 or RX-V620? how much? (yong  brand new ha!) :)
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: MeowPao on Aug 30, 2002 at 11:04 AM
Hi Shine,

I'm planning to get Yamaha RXV-430 for this week also. Lowest price i canvass was at sights and Sound Shagri-la at around P15,500. I'll visit the ambassador at viramall bye weekends.

Would you suggest their NS-7390 speaker to be used as a sorround? BTW, I'm using a vintage NS-1000M series as my main.

Thinking to build all yamaha setup. Any comments/reactions on that? Thanks a lot. And thanks to someone who referred to me the pinoydvd.com.

I think the price of the 430 can go lower. You can try asking Ambassador, since they do give good discounts. Also, I think Listening Room or Listening in Style are having a promo. You can try asking them too.  :)

You can use the 7390s as rears, but I think it would be better if you use them as fronts, with the 1000s as rears. You might as well try auditioning other brands of speakers. You can try out B&W and Mission, since they have speakers of the same price range as the Yams. :)

Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: MeowPao on Aug 30, 2002 at 11:12 AM
Hi Foxxy,

guys, do you know where i can buy the cheapest RX-V520 or RX-V620? how much? (yong  brand new ha!) :)

Di ba phase out na ang mga models na ito? Just curious, why do you want these models? Hmm... you can try asking Sonny of The Home Theater (8125235, parang may nakita ako nun) or Audioworld (I think I saw one too) #7327716. Image (harrison, #5223919) baka mayron din, since they love to stack old models in their showroom! Sights & Sounds (7527115) you can try too.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Aug 30, 2002 at 02:20 PM
guys, do you know where i can buy the cheapest RX-V520 or RX-V620? how much? (yong  brand new ha!) :)


hi FoXyyy,

i think Ambassador Appliances (2/F shangri-la EDSA plaza) offers the lowest price. i got mine from them last June for P18K (akala ko nung una sirain, d naman pala. setup ko lang pala ang pumalpak). if you go to their Virra Mall branch baka mas mababa pa. Listening in Style (3/F Bldg B megamall) had the RX-v620 on sale for P18,500 some three weeks ago. i don't know if meron pa.

anyway, if i were you 620 ka na lang. RMS power is higher and more flexible and you can centralize your component video cable connections (CVC) pa. if you plan to use a separate DVD player from your PS2 or X-box, this is the least expensive model (correct me if i'm wrong guys) in the RX-V series of yamaha. maliit din ang price difference nya from the 520, sa pagkakaalam ko. of course, if you can afford it, the 630 is even better.



Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: john5479 on Aug 30, 2002 at 03:45 PM
Although there are newer models coming out there are still not enough 6.1 channel dvd's available so getting 5.1 receivers at discounted prices is not really a bad idea especially if you only have a small room. IMHO next year would be a better time to upgrade. Oh and the rxv620 was an award winner too ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: shine on Aug 30, 2002 at 09:00 PM
Meowpao,

Thanks for the suggestion, maybe when i have the unit i will experiment them. i rebuild my NS-1000M ( put some fiber inside that makes a superb bass response ) that makes it even better. Just an info, I just accidentally saw these kind of speaker at the pier at talagang di ko na pinakawalan nung nakita ko. Not for sale pa nga nakalagay kasi for testing lang daw nila, pero nakuha rin sa presyo.

Can I have a good center for the price of less than 10k? This will be used for RXV430. Thanks, and more power to your systems!!!
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: MeowPao on Aug 30, 2002 at 09:24 PM
Hi Shine

Can I have a good center for the price of less than 10k? This will be used for RXV430. Thanks, and more power to your systems!!!


Since you already have Yamaha speakers, you might as well get a Yamaha center speaker so that they will all match (more or less). The center speakers usually hover around that price range (around 10K). You can try the ff. Yam models: NS-C120, NSP70 or NSP60. :)
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: shine on Aug 30, 2002 at 11:13 PM
I like the style of northridge series of jbl speaker as my center. Is it a good choice and will it match the yamaha front and sorround? Bose also has an eye catching center worth P9k, any suggestions for the experts? thanks again...
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 30, 2002 at 11:47 PM
shine-  You just have to match your fronts with your center so that there wouldn't be any tonal difference when sound jumps from speaker to speaker.  The best way to get good timbre matching is to get as much as possible the same brand of speakers with the same drivers as well.

I don't suggest that you buy the BOSE VS-1 center speaker coz as much as possible, you don't want to have muddled mids in the center speaker where most of the dialogues emanate from.  

If you are not particular with timbre matching then you could go with other brands of center speakers like JAMO, JPW etc. If you are not particular with brand names but want clarity from your speakers, you might  want custom made speakers built by us. ;D  

http://photos.yahoo.com/nirvblakr

Cheeers!

nirvblakr
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: shine on Aug 31, 2002 at 12:32 AM
Thanks! Maybe I will go for all yamaha setup na lang para medyo maganda and coordination nila sa isat-isa.

By next week siguro I will get the NS-C3290 as a center o kaya yung NS-P70, tingnan ko muna ang mga prices baka di magkasya sa budget.

Ganda rin sana nang NS-300 nila, sana sa december makabili ako nito sa upgrading ko, ubusin ko bunos ko para dun. hehehe.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: iceman90a on Aug 31, 2002 at 02:02 AM
am just starting my own set-up and saw the yamaha rx-v430 this afternoon. this thread just convinced me to get one. prices at powerplant were higher than what you posted here. thanks!!
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Sep 01, 2002 at 02:53 AM
Thanks! Maybe I will go for all yamaha setup na lang para medyo maganda and coordination nila sa isat-isa.

By next week siguro I will get the NS-C3290 as a center o kaya yung NS-P70, tingnan ko muna ang mga prices baka di magkasya sa budget.

Ganda rin sana nang NS-300 nila, sana sa december makabili ako nito sa upgrading ko, ubusin ko bunos ko para dun. hehehe.

in my opinion, another good center speaker which probably falls under the same price range as yamaha's speakers is from the diamond 8 series of wharfedale. (sorry, i forgot the model number) i was convinced that it offers the best value after auditioning it some 6 weeks ago. it shouldn't cost you more than P5.0K.

if you have a slightly higher budget, go for the B&Ws LCR-3. a bit of sound quality could be compromised, though, if you plan to use it with the rx-v430 since it has a relatively higher RMS rating. the LCR-3 should go for around P8.0K.

Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: MeowPao on Sep 01, 2002 at 07:47 PM
Hi Shine,

Thanks! Maybe I will go for all yamaha setup na lang para medyo maganda and coordination nila sa isat-isa.

Nirv is correct about you needing to match the center with your 2 fronts. This is very very important. IMHO, in HT, the most important speaker is the Center Speaker, since this is where most the dialog comes from.

Also, don't go only for looks (like your decision about Bose)... heheh...  ;) You don't buy speakers for the looks!  ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: MeowPao on Sep 01, 2002 at 08:00 PM
Hi Iceman90a,

am just starting my own set-up and saw the yamaha rx-v430 this afternoon. this thread just convinced me to get one. prices at powerplant were higher than what you posted here. thanks!!

Good for you!  :) Now, what speakers are you going to get?  :)
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: foxyyy on Sep 02, 2002 at 01:48 AM
Although there are newer models coming out there are still not enough 6.1 channel dvd's available so getting 5.1 receivers at discounted prices is not really a bad idea especially if you only have a small room. IMHO next year would be a better time to upgrade. Oh and the rxv620 was an award winner too ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: shine on Sep 02, 2002 at 09:27 AM
...fyi.

Sale Price for receivers and speakers:

Ambassador Appliance Greenhills(GH)/Shangri-la(SH)

1. Yamaha RXV430 - P15,000 (GH)(SH)
2. Yamaha NS-7390 speaker - P8,700 (GH)
3. Wharfedale 8.1 - P4,900(SH)
4.        "           8.3 - P7,900(SH)
5.        "           8.4 - P8,900(SH)
6.        "       center- P3,900(SH)
7. dynaquest sub - P7,800(SH)

package:
yamaha rxv430, wharfedale 8.1, 8.3 and center plus dynaquest sub. ---- P30,500 (SH)

without sub  -- P27,000 (SH)

Listening @ shagrila
1. yamaha rxv430  -- P16,500
2. yamaha NS-P60 -- P6,+++

Sights and Sound Shangrila
1. yamaha rxv430 -- P15,500
2. Denon 1602G -- P18,500
3. wharfedale 8.3 -- P7,800
4. mission 773e -- P26,095
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: shine on Sep 02, 2002 at 09:29 AM
Any suggestion for what front speaker is better:

the yamaha ns7390 or the wharfedale 8.3? will be used on the rxv430.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: iceman90a on Sep 02, 2002 at 01:24 PM
not sure yet - i have a small living room and the 6 speaker set by yamaha would be enough. but i would like to have floor standing speakers - maybe from yamaha also.

unless you have a cheaper alternative with the same quality.

thanks
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: MeowPao on Sep 02, 2002 at 01:41 PM
Hi iceman90a,

not sure yet - i have a small living room and the 6 speaker set by yamaha would be enough. but i would like to have floor standing speakers - maybe from yamaha also.

unless you have a cheaper alternative with the same quality.

Ah... around that price range, if you want floorstanders, you can check out Mission and Warfedale. You can also check out B&W, their bookshelf speakers are quite affordable. You can always purchase speaker stands. Speaking of bookshelf speakers, these three brands carry them too, and it is a good alternative (esp. price-wise) to floorstanders.  :)

Check out the prices posted by Shine (galing ah!), here.  That should give you an idea. :)

If you are interested in 'custom made' speakers (unbeateable price-wise), then you can PM Nirvblakr over here at the forum. :)

Those small speakers are usually 'bitin' kasi when compared to regular sized speakers.  ;) If you have the buget, try avoiding these.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: shine on Sep 02, 2002 at 05:44 PM
another price info<

Wharfedale 8.3 -- P6,500
Wharfedale 8.4 -- P8,600

@ambassador greenhills. sensiya na sa mga dealers diyan ha...
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Jick on Sep 02, 2002 at 09:23 PM
Some news from the WhatHiFi mags I have been reading:

Yamaha RXV-430 --5 stars (August 2002)

Wharfedale Diamond 8.2 - 4 stars (September 2002).  It did not win the Supertest in this category.  It was the Acoustic Energy Evo which won.  Also, the B&W DM303 just like the Wharfedale 8.2 has already been downgraded to 4-stars from previous 5-star status in the light of tougher competition in that price range.

Yamaha RXV-630 - 5 stars and Supertest winner beating other receivers (October 2002)

In the letters column, it also recommended the  Wharefdale Diamond Cinema with  Yamaha receiver.

Personally, I own both the Yamaha RXV430 and a NAD C340 Integrated amp, the Yamaha is not even close when it comes to 2-channel music only listening.

Jovi
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Atticus on Sep 04, 2002 at 08:23 AM
hello guys!

I'm sort of a newbie (hehe) regarding setting up a home theather system. And I am close to choosing the Yamaha RX-V530 as my receiver. But it is really true from what I read that a Yamaha receover is not that good when used for playing CDs?

shine, where can I find ambassor appliances in greenhills?

Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: shine on Sep 04, 2002 at 08:48 AM
Ambassador Appliance is located at 2nd level Viramall, Greenhills. Nasa banadang likod at the rigth wing. Madali lang hanapin yun, libutin mo na lang.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: levi on Sep 22, 2002 at 09:10 PM
Reposting for Ravemarky1,


Hi.
Can anyone point me to the cheapest place where I can buy either of these models? It seems that the different stores listed in the directory have wildly different prices. Also know if there's a difference between the Gold and Black models?
Anyone know the number of Astroplus- the one having the promo?
Thanks!


Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: madrigal on Sep 23, 2002 at 10:49 AM
Hello,
   The Cheapest is still in Ambassador Virra Mall for all Yamaha or wharfedale products.
Mura talaga dito.     Wag ka nang mag-canvass and sayang lang time mo.  
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Jermi on Sep 23, 2002 at 11:53 AM
Got the ff quote from Listening Rm:

Yamaha RXV430G
Yamaha NSP 220 Speakers
2 pcs. Front 100W each
1 pc. Center 100W
2 pc. Rear 100w
Price:  P23,950.00

Yamaha RXV630G (6.1 Channel)
Yamaha NSP 7390 Front Speaker
220 Watts 2 WAy Floor Standing
NSP 60 Center, Rear Speakers
Center 180 Watts
Rear 150 Watts each
Price:  P37,500

I have not yet asked for discount, but I would like to throw the ff questions to the forum:

1.  Would you guys suggest any changes to the config of the quotation?  How come I hardly see Yammie speakers in the forum, pangit ba speakers ng Yamaha?  Would you guys kindly suggest other brands of the same price range?

2.  Are the price above good enough, or can I get much better deals elsewhere...
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: allenars on Sep 23, 2002 at 04:24 PM
how about the Yamaha RXV-1200 and RXV-2200? available ba? and how much?
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: levi on Sep 23, 2002 at 08:55 PM
Got the ff quote from Listening Rm:

Yamaha RXV430G
Yamaha NSP 220 Speakers
2 pcs. Front 100W each
1 pc. Center 100W
2 pc. Rear 100w
Price:  P23,950.00

Yamaha RXV630G (6.1 Channel)
Yamaha NSP 7390 Front Speaker
220 Watts 2 WAy Floor Standing
NSP 60 Center, Rear Speakers
Center 180 Watts
Rear 150 Watts each
Price:  P37,500

I have not yet asked for discount, but I would like to throw the ff questions to the forum:

1.  Would you guys suggest any changes to the config of the quotation?  How come I hardly see Yammie speakers in the forum, pangit ba speakers ng Yamaha?  Would you guys kindly suggest other brands of the same price range?

2.  Are the price above good enough, or can I get much better deals elsewhere...


Hi Jermi, Welcome to PinoyDVD,

   There is nothing wrong with the Yamaha speakers but if you can stretch your budget a little further, you can get a lot better speakers (e.g. Wharfedale, Paradigm, Mission, B&W, Energy etc). You could also get good brands but do it piece by piece. Its a better approach, than buying a complete set then upgrade after a few months. just my 1 cent advise.

Levi
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: iceman90a on Sep 23, 2002 at 11:18 PM
hi,

i just started on the ht fever myself, and like you was very much tempted to go the yamaha way for the following reasons:

a) you can get them NOW
b) they seem reasonably priced

BUT when you are just starting you dont really know the difference between the equipment, until you own one - then you hear something else, or you get the feeling that you want more from your system. then you'd be stuck with a 6 piece speaker system that you have to dispose of..

i didnt really believe it then, but go for upgradeable separates - but thats just my opinion.

good luck
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Jermi on Sep 24, 2002 at 12:15 AM
Levi, thanks for your 1 cent. Actually, budget wise, kaya pa naman siguro hanggang mga 70-80T. Pero, my room is only very small.  My presumption is basically the higher the price and the wattage, the higher the volume, aside siguro from improved "sound quality".

Can you please give me some other options to work around, with my budget, but please remember the ff:

~~Maliit lang room ko, siguro less than 15 sq m lang yata toh, my room is adjacent to my kid's room, so I won't exactly be able to enjoy max volume...I just want the "effects".

Iceman, if you could turn back time...what would you have done differently?! Yung quote ba ng Listening Rm, hindi "upgradeable separates"? Sorry, di ko alam...
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: levi on Sep 24, 2002 at 09:54 AM
Levi, thanks for your 1 cent. Actually, budget wise, kaya pa naman siguro hanggang mga 70-80T. Pero, my room is only very small.  My presumption is basically the higher the price and the wattage, the higher the volume, aside siguro from improved "sound quality".

Can you please give me some other options to work around, with my budget, but please remember the ff:

~~Maliit lang room ko, siguro less than 15 sq m lang yata toh, my room is adjacent to my kid's room, so I won't exactly be able to enjoy max volume...I just want the "effects".

Iceman, if you could turn back time...what would you have done differently?! Yung quote ba ng Listening Rm, hindi "upgradeable separates"? Sorry, di ko alam...

Hi,
 
   The reason you get a better speaker is for sound improvements. Even the Yamaha can rock your house but what we want is better sound whether its soft or loud. If you have a small room, choose bookshelf speakers, its more than enough. A good brand of bookshelf speaker would only cost 10-12T ( ex. Mission or B&W entry level) pair so if you get a complete set plus center its only going to be 30T. If you add a receiver ( ex. 25T for Yam 630 ) then its still below your 70 to 80T budget. You can still get a good sub like Velodyne CHT 8 or 10.


Levi
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: iceman90a on Sep 24, 2002 at 12:50 PM
Quote
Iceman, if you could turn back time...what would you have done differently?! Yung quote ba ng Listening Rm, hindi "upgradeable separates"? Sorry, di ko alam...

fortunately - i was able to wait til i got separates, luckily some of the guys here were selling their hardly used stuff (for valid reasons not related to the quality of the equipment)

so i'm very happy with what i have
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Jermi on Sep 24, 2002 at 03:55 PM
Levi, coming from the premise of your post, it seems to me that floor standing speakers are "louder" than bookshelves, is my conclusion correct?

Coz I really want floor standing speakers, kahit medyo "bulok", I would really like my speakers to stand out, quite literally, that is.  I'm just fixated with having floor standing ones, kahit na maliit lang room ko tapos hindi ko i-c crank up.

Besides, my TV stand is very high, kung book shelf yun, when I lie down in bed, the front and center would be approximately 6-7 feet away and 5-6 feet above our heads, okay lang ba yun?  
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: kawboy on Sep 24, 2002 at 04:31 PM
Levi, coming from the premise of your post, it seems to me that floor standing speakers are "louder" than bookshelves, is my conclusion correct?

Coz I really want floor standing speakers, kahit medyo "bulok", I would really like my speakers to stand out, quite literally, that is.  I'm just fixated with having floor standing ones, kahit na maliit lang room ko tapos hindi ko i-c crank up.

Besides, my TV stand is very high, kung book shelf yun, when I lie down in bed, the front and center would be approximately 6-7 feet away and 5-6 feet above our heads, okay lang ba yun?  

Jermi, pareho tayo ng dillema, I want floorstanding speakers for my fronts, (mas cool di ba?  ;))pero our sala is also small. kaya I'm thinking if I would start setting up when I have a bigger place... if you can't wait, you may want to consider B&W 602.5, it's a floorstander for a small room.
specified lang sa website nila na it is built for small rooms...

sabi naman ng iba, baka maging boomy siya.

Anyway, I am very interested kung ano ang magiging decisions and feedback mo, so keep us informed sana  :)
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: listener on Sep 24, 2002 at 05:19 PM
kawboy

you can use floorstanding type of speakers even if your room is quite on the small side. Try to deaden the sound of the room by using area rugs, heavy curtains etc.  

Jermi

Floorstanders are not "louder" when compared to bookshelf speakers. You may get the impression that it is louder due to the fact that  floorstanders have the ability to reproduce a much fuller presentation because of the low end that it can easily belt out not unlike the bookshelf speakers. That low end of the scale would probably be in the 100Hz up to 400Hz spectrum and this is because a floorstander usually uses 3 drivers...a woofer, a mid and a tweeter whereas in a bookshelf the mid and the woofer usually has to be reproduced by a single driver. Naturally the 3 driver configuration will reproduce a much dynamic presentation rather than a two channel.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: kawboy on Sep 24, 2002 at 05:34 PM
thanks listener,
pag wala pa rin kaming mas malaking lugar next year, I'll do your suggestions. nakakahinayang makinig ng DVD in stereo eh. ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: don on Sep 24, 2002 at 05:44 PM
I think the best buy sa lineup nato is the rx-v630... with 530 and 430, wala kasing rear center....

If you can get an RX-V1200 or 2200 mas ok :)

kawboy,

bumili ako ng Mission 73i (floorstanding) and M7C2 (center). Ok na ok naman siya sa yamaha ko  ;D Yung surrounds at sub yung next.

Don
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: kawboy on Sep 24, 2002 at 05:55 PM
binenta mo pa ba yung RXV-1200 mo?
baka mag B&W ako... bahala na, ia-audition ko na lang siguro...  ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: don on Sep 24, 2002 at 06:31 PM
nope hindi ko binenta.  ;D tamang-tama kasi sa Missions.  ;D mahal ng B & W kaya nag Missions, price and performance swak na swak  ;D

Don
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: levi on Sep 25, 2002 at 02:23 AM
Levi, coming from the premise of your post, it seems to me that floor standing speakers are "louder" than bookshelves, is my conclusion correct?

Coz I really want floor standing speakers, kahit medyo "bulok", I would really like my speakers to stand out, quite literally, that is.  I'm just fixated with having floor standing ones, kahit na maliit lang room ko tapos hindi ko i-c crank up.

Besides, my TV stand is very high, kung book shelf yun, when I lie down in bed, the front and center would be approximately 6-7 feet away and 5-6 feet above our heads, okay lang ba yun?  

   I was thinking of space when I suggested bookshelves but for capabilities almost the same for normal use. Anyway, since you have more budget then you can still get floorstanders like the suggetion of Kawboy or even the 603.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 25, 2002 at 02:36 AM
Levi, coming from the premise of your post, it seems to me that floor standing speakers are "louder" than bookshelves, is my conclusion correct?

Coz I really want floor standing speakers, kahit medyo "bulok", I would really like my speakers to stand out, quite literally, that is.  I'm just fixated with having floor standing ones, kahit na maliit lang room ko tapos hindi ko i-c crank up.

Besides, my TV stand is very high, kung book shelf yun, when I lie down in bed, the front and center would be approximately 6-7 feet away and 5-6 feet above our heads, okay lang ba yun?  

If you are still looking for floorstanding speakers, I have a Yamaha NS-45 pair of floorstanding speakers and I'm selling it for P7k (neg).

(http://www.hifistore.co.uk/images/products/l/ns45exd.jpg)


It is in cherry red finish though and with a black grill cloth.

http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=7;action=display;threadid=6358 (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=7;action=display;threadid=6358)

Text me at 09175298004 if you are interested. ;D

nirvblakr
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: greatbop on Sep 25, 2002 at 02:47 PM
umm.. ang difference ng floorstander over a bookshelf isn't just as simple as 'floorstanders are louder.''

Floorstanders have a better frequency range over bookshelfs.. mas marami and bigger drivers, etc.. kaya masmahal...

and ofcourse... you get better bass dahil may sariling low end driver e. compared sa bookshelf which normall only has 2 drivers.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Jermi on Sep 25, 2002 at 05:11 PM
I think the best buy sa lineup nato is the rx-v630... with 530 and 430, wala kasing rear center....

If you can get an RX-V1200 or 2200 mas ok :)

kawboy,

bumili ako ng Mission 73i (floorstanding) and M7C2 (center). Ok na ok naman siya sa yamaha ko  ;D Yung surrounds at sub yung next.

Don

Don,
Magkano bili mo sa Mission floorstanding and center mo?
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Jermi on Sep 25, 2002 at 05:18 PM
umm.. ang difference ng floorstander over a bookshelf isn't just as simple as 'floorstanders are louder.''

Floorstanders have a better frequency range over bookshelfs.. mas marami and bigger drivers, etc.. kaya masmahal...

and ofcourse... you get better bass dahil may sariling low end driver e. compared sa bookshelf which normall only has 2 drivers.
Greatbop, thanks.  Can you recommend some models for me? Kung bibilhin kong receiver is the 630?

Ano ba difference ng 630 sa 730?
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: don on Sep 25, 2002 at 05:33 PM
Jermi,

Call The Hometheater for the latest prices.  ;)

730 has "on-screen display" yun settings nung receiver makikita mo sa TV.... Yung 630 walang function na ganito. Pareho lang sila pati yung power, yung on-screen display lang ang pinagkaiba...

Try Mission speakers... 70 series. I recommend the M73i model for fronts...

Hope this helps,
Don

Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Jermi on Sep 25, 2002 at 05:55 PM


Jermi, pareho tayo ng dillema, I want floorstanding speakers for my fronts, (mas cool di ba?  ;))pero our sala is also small. kaya I'm thinking if I would start setting up when I have a bigger place... if you can't wait, you may want to consider B&W 602.5, it's a floorstander for a small room.
specified lang sa website nila na it is built for small rooms...

sabi naman ng iba, baka maging boomy siya.

Anyway, I am very interested kung ano ang magiging decisions and feedback mo, so keep us informed sana  :)
Kawboy, cool talaga ang floorstanding, feeling HT talaga ang dating...
Ano ba yung mas mura yung Missions or B&W, grabe, wala talaga akong alam, am just relying on everybody's opinion...I don't even know how to audition, as in pag punta ko dun, feeling ko, I won't be able to "hear" the diff... ???
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Mickoh Ramos on Sep 27, 2002 at 05:11 PM
Hi guys,

I just wanted to let everyone know that I was able to buy this package from The Listening Room at MegaMall.  I am very happy with this and satisfied, since I will be putting this in my room only.  It's been quite some time since I last posted here and it took me sometime to decide on what to get until the package came.  I was decided already before with the amp, but didn't want the ns-p320 package speakers.  Now, all I am lacking is the subwoofer.  Sa pasko na siguro ang sub ;D.  Just wanted to share my joy with you guys.  Thanks for all the help and assistance.

To those who are not aware of the package...

Yamaha RXV630G (6.1 Channel)
- 75w x 6 (nom), 110 x 6 (max)
Yamaha NSP 7390 Front Speaker
- 220 Watts 2 WAy Floor Standing
NSP 60 Center, Rear Speakers
- Center 180 Watts
- Rear 150 Watts each
Price:  P37,500
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: shine on Sep 27, 2002 at 08:35 PM
congrats sa setup mo. Maganda nga ang package na yan, pinagpilian ko din dati ang NS7390 nila with the wharfedale 8.4. Mas feel mo ang pagka-HT talaga niyan pag nakakuha ka na nang sub mo.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Jermi on Sep 28, 2002 at 09:36 PM
Jermi,

Call The Hometheater for the latest prices.  ;)

730 has "on-screen display" yun settings nung receiver makikita mo sa TV.... Yung 630 walang function na ganito. Pareho lang sila pati yung power, yung on-screen display lang ang pinagkaiba...

Try Mission speakers... 70 series. I recommend the M73i model for fronts...

Hope this helps,
Don



Would you have the number of The Hometheatre?
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: levi on Sep 29, 2002 at 12:39 AM
Sonny Tuazon
The Home Theater
store hours are
from 9:00am to 7:00pm Mondays to Saturdays
and Sundays by appointment only.
telnos.:
812-5235
524-8631
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Mickoh Ramos on Sep 30, 2002 at 01:57 PM
Hello peeps,

Meron din akong question about impedance and speakers.  Last Friday, I was able to buy the yamaha 630 package with the ns-7390 (main) and ns-p60 (center and rear) at the listening room (megamall).  the main speakers are 8 ohms while the center and rear are 6 ohms.  yung taga megamall ang nag-setup at sabi na wag ko na galawin yung impedance setting sa likod ng amp.  nakalagay siya sa minimum of 8 ohms na impedance setting (for those familiar with the new x30 yamaha receivers, switch is toggled to the right).  hindi ba masisira ang 6 ohms speakers ko?
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: don on Sep 30, 2002 at 03:02 PM
Hi Mickoh,

I e-mailed Yamaha regarding the Impedance Selector Switch. 6 ohms din yung speakers ko.. eto yung e-mail nila sakin...



>Thank you for being a Yamaha product owner.

>In reply to your inquiry, please position the >IMPEDANCE SELECTOR switch to the
>"LEFT", when you use the receiver with the NS-P320.

>By selecting an appropriate position of the impedance >selector switch, the
>receiver is adjusting output power for protecting >receiver.

>Thank you for contacting Yamaha.

>Yours sincerely

>AV Overseas Customer Service Representative
>YAMAHA CORPORATION, JAPAN

Hope this helps,

Don
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Mickoh Ramos on Sep 30, 2002 at 03:11 PM
thanks don!  ;)

sabi kasi nung taga-listening room, huwag ko na daw galawin e...minimum of 8 ohms, tapos yung rear and center ko ay 6 ohms...medyo conflicting ata.  
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Mickoh Ramos on Sep 30, 2002 at 03:22 PM
don,

pahingi naman ng email address ng yamaha japan.  i have a few questions myself that i'd like to ask.

thanks again.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: don on Sep 30, 2002 at 05:57 PM
don,

pahingi naman ng email address ng yamaha japan.  i have a few questions myself that i'd like to ask.

thanks again.

no problem  :)

[email protected]
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Titanium on Oct 07, 2002 at 10:54 AM
Hey guys, yung may RX V 430 I have a question.

Can you adjust the delay setting of the rear surround speakers? Seems that I cant find the instructions in the manual, only the center speaker is adjustable. Or I just missed it. Help naman.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: stradale on Oct 23, 2002 at 10:53 AM
Newbie needs info.  

I have a Yamaha RXV1200. I connected a coaxial digital cable from the DVD player's audio output to the AVR's coaxial digital CD input (Wala ba talagang coaxial digital DVD input ang mga AVRs?).  This works fine for CD's but I got no sound playing DVD's until I also installed the low-tech red,white, yellow tri-jack cable (yon ba ang RCA?).  I plan to buy an optical digital cable to replace the latter.

Question (s):

1.  Talaga ba na for HT setups, you need both the coaxial and optical digital cables at the same time?  I thought it was a question of buying either one of the two?

2.  Will I get an appreciable increase in sound quality using the digital optical cable for DVD in lieu of the RCA (?) cable?

 

 

Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: MeowPao on Oct 23, 2002 at 11:34 AM
Hi Stradale,

You have to set your coaxial-input to the correct input. From what I remember, the default for the first coaxial input is CD, while the second is CBL/SAT. You have to set the input you are using to DVD.

Its on page 59 of the manual. You can access the menu by pressing MENU on your remote, then scrolling down until you see item number 7 I/O ASSIGNMENT.

There will be a huge difference if you use digital coaxial cables vs rca cables. For one, its through the digital cables that the dvd passes the DTS, DD5.1 etc. to the receiver.  :)
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: cpudle on Oct 23, 2002 at 12:03 PM
Hello peeps,

Meron din akong question about impedance and speakers.  Last Friday, I was able to buy the yamaha 630 package with the ns-7390 (main) and ns-p60 (center and rear) at the listening room (megamall).  the main speakers are 8 ohms while the center and rear are 6 ohms.  yung taga megamall ang nag-setup at sabi na wag ko na galawin yung impedance setting sa likod ng amp.  nakalagay siya sa minimum of 8 ohms na impedance setting (for those familiar with the new x30 yamaha receivers, switch is toggled to the right).  hindi ba masisira ang 6 ohms speakers ko?

Most midfi Receivers may have problems adequately driving a 4 ohm load. However, many of the better Receivers today have a large enough power supply, heat sink area, and current capability in the amp sections to handle 4 ohm loads. You are usually safe running these speakers on the Flagship Receiver models from: {Yamaha, Denon, Onkyo, Harman Kardon, NAD, Nakamichi). NOTE: Some Receivers have an impedance selector switch. DON'T USE THEM! The manufacturer puts them there for UL approvals as well as easing consumer concerns about driving low impedance loads. These switches step down voltage feed to the power sections which will limit dynamics and overall fidelity. Keep the switch set for 8 ohms regardless of the impedance of your speakers and ensure proper ventilation of the Receiver.

Taken from http://www.audioholics.com/FAQs/000726_4ohm_speakers.php (http://www.audioholics.com/FAQs/000726_4ohm_speakers.php)
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: stradale on Oct 23, 2002 at 02:59 PM
Got it meowpow.  Thanks.

Does this mean however that I have to reset the I/O assignment every time I switch from DVD to CD (and viceversa)? Is there no work around? (Other than buying a separate optical digital cable).


Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Courage on Oct 23, 2002 at 03:20 PM
If u wish to connect ur DVD and CD player using digital inputs u need to buy separate cables for them Coax and Optical para di ka na maglilipat at magtanggal nang cables sa likod...i use coaxial cable for my DVD player and Optical cable for my CD player
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: MeowPao on Oct 23, 2002 at 11:50 PM
Hi cpudle,

NOTE: Some Receivers have an impedance selector switch. DON'T USE THEM! The manufacturer puts them there for UL approvals as well as easing consumer concerns about driving low impedance loads. These switches step down voltage feed to the power sections which will limit dynamics and overall fidelity. Keep the switch set for 8 ohms regardless of the impedance of your speakers and ensure proper ventilation of the Receiver.

In my case, I had the switch over to the right (6ohm), since I have both 6 & 4 ohm speakers. I wanted to be on the safe side. :) I've tried running it with the switch over to the left (8ohm), and I didn't hear a difference (I probably have bad ears) :)
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: MeowPao on Oct 23, 2002 at 11:50 PM
HI stradale,

Got it meowpow.  Thanks.

Does this mean however that I have to reset the I/O assignment every time I switch from DVD to CD (and viceversa)? Is there no work around? (Other than buying a separate optical digital cable).


You only set this up once. :) I've tried it on my DVD player, and it plays both dvd and cd with no problems.
Have you tried it na? :)

I actually have 3 types of cables attached to the player: coaxial digital, toslink (fiber) digital, and RCA, for testing. :) Of course, I can only use them one at a time.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: LoBudget on Oct 27, 2002 at 01:20 PM
Anyone out there or dealers you know who are planning on dropping prices for december or shortly after?
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Hal on Nov 06, 2002 at 12:12 PM
Help fellow members!!!

I just acquired a yamaha receiver, i haven't set up the rear speakers yet because our house is still under construction so i placed the rears in front along with the main speakers sa bedroom lng muna.

But then when i play movies the dialogues are too soft and parang high-pitched pa.. not even balanced with the sound effects kaya tuloy, i tone down the volume evrytime may nababasag or sumasabog..

be it a DD or a DTS disc, pareho lng effect.

ngyon lng ako ngka HT guys, i was using a mini-compo before to watch dvds. help me set up the sound to make the speeches a little louder..

by the way, optical un cable na binili ko..and wharfedale diamond speakers ... thanks!!!!
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: stradale on Nov 06, 2002 at 12:42 PM
Like you I recently acquired a Yamaha AVR (RXV1200).  It took a while for me to learn how to adjust the volume of each speaker too.  But you can do so thru the remote.
 
Just get the speaker test tone going and press the > key while the center speaker is being tested.  I'm assuming of course that your Yamaha has remote features similar to mine.

I know makapal yung owner's manual and it would take days if not weeks to absorb it all but I'm sure the instruction is there.

BTW, there is a way to adjust the tone (to lower the pitch) of the center speaker but guess what?  I have'nt read that part yet.  Cheers. ;)
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Nov 06, 2002 at 02:15 PM
Help fellow members!!!

I just acquired a yamaha receiver, i haven't set up the rear speakers yet because our house is still under construction so i placed the rears in front along with the main speakers sa bedroom lng muna.

But then when i play movies the dialogues are too soft and parang high-pitched pa.. not even balanced with the sound effects kaya tuloy, i tone down the volume evrytime may nababasag or sumasabog..

be it a DD or a DTS disc, pareho lng effect.

ngyon lng ako ngka HT guys, i was using a mini-compo before to watch dvds. help me set up the sound to make the speeches a little louder..

by the way, optical un cable na binili ko..and wharfedale diamond speakers ... thanks!!!!

...are you using the center channel? if your audio setting is either in dolby digital or dts,  generally, the dialogue is expected to come out of the center speaker. from what i gather from your query, your speaker setup is 4.0 (2 fronts and 2 rears). try selecting either 2.1 or stereo in the audio setup of your source and see if the dialogue comes out using the main and rear speakers.

alternatively, you may want to remove both your rear speakers and try connecting one of them to the center channel speaker connection of your AV receiver. i think that's a 3.0 audio setup. that way, you may be able to tell if there's something wrong with your center channel or not.

hope i didn't confuse you more.



Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Hal on Nov 07, 2002 at 12:13 PM
thanks a lot stradale and tuff...!!

tuff, i have a center speaker.. sorry ha i havn't read the manual yet...(i usually don't kc excited)..

stradale, mine is rxv430 so pareho lng un speaker setup natin sa remote siguro

but after waking up early this morning  nadiskubre ko na.. the culprit is the delay.. nasa 35 sya so i adjusted it down to 0 then settled at 5.. muntik pa ko malate sa office ehehehe

thanks again!
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Courage on Nov 07, 2002 at 02:01 PM
Enjoy ur reciever its good to hear a fellow yammy owner  ;D ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: stradale on Nov 16, 2002 at 08:47 AM
How do you get DTS to work in the RXV1200?  When, I play the Eagles Hell Freezes Over which is DTS,  it only goes 5.1 with DTS Neo 6.

I've activated DTS in the audio setup of my Sony DVD player already.  DD works fine though for DD disks.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: robertj on Nov 16, 2002 at 05:58 PM

I suggest you read the manual taht comes with your receiver thoroughly before asking questions here that your manual can answer more precisely.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: stradale on Nov 16, 2002 at 08:47 PM
robertjaworski  ;) (yuck!). I've combed the manual front and back and could'nt find a clue. Hence, the post.

Cheers.



Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: MeowPao on Nov 17, 2002 at 01:00 AM
How do you get DTS to work in the RXV1200?  When, I play the Eagles Hell Freezes Over which is DTS,  it only goes 5.1 with DTS Neo 6.

I've activated DTS in the audio setup of my Sony DVD player already.  DD works fine though for DD disks.

Hi Stradale,

Got your PM.  :)

Did you set your DVD (Eagles) to DTS, via its Menu/Audio options? My guess is that you have the DVD set to STEREO (PCM) Mode.

Also, I guess you have your DVD Player with the right setting (as in allowing DD and DTS output).

Kasi pag 2 channels lang yan (as you can see, yung 'L' and 'R' lang ang naka-light), then you can choose among Pro Logic, PLII, DTS Neo:6 etc. via AMP button on your remote and Numbers 10 (to pic bet. Dolby Digital and DTS) and 11 (PL2, DTS:N6 etc.).

Pag naka DTS ka, you CANNOT use Number 11 sa remote, only Number 10 (normal DTS, and enhanced DTS).

Do tell me if this suggestion works... :)
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: stradale on Nov 17, 2002 at 11:17 PM
Gee, do I feel like the noob I am ::).  Yep, it was the DVD menu setting.  Did'nt know what PCM was so I was'nt thinking along the lines of "should I select DTS or PCM?"  Akala ko DTS lang siya.

Sorry to bother you guys but thanks.

Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: stradale on Nov 17, 2002 at 11:24 PM
BTW, ganda ng DTS sound ng Yamaha/B&W combo, parang kasama ka sa live audience!  Thanks again guys.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: lmerb on Nov 19, 2002 at 12:59 PM
Meron pa bang RXV420? san kaya meron and magkano?

thanks
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Courage on Nov 19, 2002 at 01:09 PM
The RXV 420 and RXV520 is on sale at the Cinema in Festival mall at alabang 4th floor..u can check it out bro.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: lmerb on Nov 19, 2002 at 01:13 PM
oki thanks ;D how much kaya yun estimated price? im on a tight budget kasi
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: lmerb on Nov 19, 2002 at 01:20 PM
wharfedale diamond na bookshelf mag kaya?

thanks ulit
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Courage on Nov 19, 2002 at 01:28 PM
imerb, i think its 13-14k yun or less di ko na tanda eh
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: popeye on Nov 19, 2002 at 04:15 PM
how long will these new models be in the market before yamaha comes up with a new series?  similarly, how long were the 20 series models in the market before they were replaced by the current 30 series?
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Courage on Nov 20, 2002 at 10:50 AM
Maybe hanggat may stocks sila nang 20's
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: sillyputty on Nov 20, 2002 at 11:55 AM
question lang po sa mga 630 owners...
na-retain pa rin po ba yung house sound ng yamaha na medyo bright compared sa ibang yamaha models?
Mas ok ba yung model na to sa music? Baka kasi nabago na yung sound characteristics ng receiver considering top-art process/materials na yung gamit.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Mickoh Ramos on Nov 20, 2002 at 01:49 PM
question lang po sa mga 630 owners...
na-retain pa rin po ba yung house sound ng yamaha na medyo bright compared sa ibang yamaha models?
Mas ok ba yung model na to sa music? Baka kasi nabago na yung sound characteristics ng receiver considering top-art process/materials na yung gamit.

i am a proud owner of a 630 yammy  ;D.  anyway, this is very subjective.  the receiver is okay depending on the speakers you use, but i also believe that it can bring out the best in almost any speaker.  i like it in music and movies.  check out the yamaha website (japan).  it was an award winning receiver.  ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: bartleby on Nov 20, 2002 at 08:11 PM
Does the RXV-630 supports DTS-ES Discrete/Neo or DTS-ES Matrix only?
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: sgc_wdi on Nov 21, 2002 at 03:35 PM
How much is the RXV630 and RXV430 selling here? and what's the major difference? :)
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Nov 21, 2002 at 04:15 PM
Does the RXV-630 supports DTS-ES Discrete/Neo or DTS-ES Matrix only?

sa pagkaka-alam ko, parang DTS 5.1 at DTS ES Matrix 6.1 nga lang ang kayang i-process ng RX-V630. sa dolby di rin yata kaya DD 6.1 discrete. parang DD, DPL and DPL II lang ang kaya. sana tama ako. d bale, sa pagkakaalam ko, mabibilang pa rin lang ng daliri ang mga DVD na DTS 6.1 discrete encoded.

parang RXV-1200 yata pataas ang may kaya ng DTS ES Discrete at Neo. pataas din siempre ang presyo. d bale, pagkaraan ng 2 o 3 taon, bagsak din presyo ng matataas na modelo: parang yung RXV-800 at RXV-1000 after lumabas ang DTS-ES, DPL-II. hula ko, DTS 8.1 discrete (he he!) naman ang lalabas na bago pag bagsak na ang presyo.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 22, 2002 at 07:52 AM
Hmm...DTS 8.1- Malamang ang bubong at sahig eh may speakers na din! Ayos! ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Courage on Nov 22, 2002 at 10:43 AM
How about the Yamaha DSP-AZ1
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Mickoh Ramos on Nov 22, 2002 at 11:18 AM
How much is the RXV630 and RXV430 selling here? and what's the major difference? :)

last time i heard, the 630 was selling at 24,800 pesos at listening room, megamall.  nabili ko kasi yung akin with packaged speakers at 37,500, 5.0 speakers (no sub)  ;D.

one difference i know is the a-b speakers selection, 6.1 channels ang 630, more dsp functions, remote, more inputs and outputs (rca, coax, etc.).

Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: sgc_wdi on Nov 22, 2002 at 03:43 PM
Mickoh,

thanks... thinking of getting one myself...
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: lmerb on Nov 25, 2002 at 10:24 AM
630 selling for 20000 at listening in mega.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: lmerb on Nov 25, 2002 at 10:32 AM
san magandang bumili ng 430. lowest price na nakita ko e is 15500. may mas lower pa kaya dito? any anyone who can give discounts?

Thanks
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: sgc_wdi on Nov 25, 2002 at 10:37 AM
630 selling for 20000 at listening in mega.

Imerb, is 20t the lowest you've seen for 630?
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: lmerb on Nov 25, 2002 at 11:26 AM
isang shop lang kasi napagtanungan ko. i was not able to ask sa ambassador. cause i was looking for 430 model.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: sillyputty on Nov 25, 2002 at 11:57 AM
just called ambassador greenhills. 23.2k ang yam 630.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: LoBudget on Nov 25, 2002 at 12:19 PM
got my 430 in ambassador gh for 15k. haggling is not a crime... esp. in greenhills...  ;)
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: lmerb on Nov 25, 2002 at 12:38 PM
thanks for the info man! ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: lmerb on Nov 26, 2002 at 11:02 AM
sa ambassador shang kaya pede rin tumawad?
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Jermi on Nov 26, 2002 at 05:31 PM
Hmm...DTS 8.1- Malamang ang bubong at sahig eh may speakers na din! Ayos! ;D

hahahahahaha!!!!

RE:  Prices of 630....got mine below 24t  :) I doubt if *anybody* can beat the prices that I got for my HT...sobrang barat ako eh...this was back in Oct.  Don't know if prices have gone down since...20,000?!???!? grabe yun ah...siguro nga nag price drop na.  Either that or 620 yan...
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: 2fast2furious on Nov 26, 2002 at 09:07 PM
Wow.  

But I've seen RXV-1200 goes at 29,900.   :)
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: jambam on Nov 27, 2002 at 09:26 AM
P20K for the 630, can someone confirm this pls. I think this will be the lowest cost reciever w/ Pre-amp outputs...
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: jerome on Nov 29, 2002 at 11:37 PM
hi im new here.

i have bose am-10 speaker system.  match kaya ito sa rxv-430.

tnx.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: sillyputty on Nov 30, 2002 at 02:54 AM
galing akong mega, 24.8k pa rin for the 630.

Imerb - Sino dun yung nakausap mo? Kung 20k lang yun kanina napabili nko. BUti na lng hindi!  ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: lmerb on Dec 02, 2002 at 10:45 AM
Sori. wrong posting 620 yata yun model nun. ;D anywayz got a 430 for 15000.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: 2fast2furious on Dec 05, 2002 at 11:34 AM
Why not buy the RXV-1200.  It sells at 29,900 in Makati Park Square.  Just shelved in a few more bucks and you have a better receiver.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: lmerb on Dec 05, 2002 at 01:02 PM
Why not buy the RXV-1200.  It sells at 29,900 in Makati Park Square.  Just shelved in a few more bucks and you have a better receiver.
Masyado expensive para sa small room. 29,900 meron na kong complete setup ;D ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: sgc_wdi on Dec 05, 2002 at 02:00 PM
correct me if I'm wrong, pero di ba walang Dolby Digital EX ang RXV1200?
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: MeowPao on Dec 05, 2002 at 02:47 PM
correct me if I'm wrong, pero di ba walang Dolby Digital EX ang RXV1200?

Mayroon siya, they called it Dolby Digital Matrix 6.1. :)
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: sgc_wdi on Dec 05, 2002 at 03:29 PM
I see, so it's not a true 6.1 DD EX right pag matrix lang? parang emulation lang siya?
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: MeowPao on Dec 05, 2002 at 03:51 PM
I've written Yamaha about it before, and they told me that DD Matrix 6.1 is DD EX. The 1200,2200,3200 series came just before Dolby decided to use the name Dolby Digital EX. :)
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: utoy on Dec 05, 2002 at 04:00 PM
i agree with meowpao. Surround EX = 6.1 Matrix.

sgc_wdi has a point din it being not true "6.1." i wouldn't call it emulation though, it works the same way prologic does to stereo. it derives the center from the SL and SR information.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: sgc_wdi on Dec 05, 2002 at 08:33 PM
so is 6.1 matrix then really DD EX, I mean exact technologies, just different name?
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: jambam on Dec 09, 2002 at 12:12 PM
thanks for the tip guys , i really needed something w/ pre outs , as my main speakers are Theils w/c I think could only be properly driven w/ an additional power amp w/c I already had.
I was considering the 630 w/c was quoted at P23,700. Also considered the Pioneer 811 and Onkyo SR700.

In the end I bought  the 1200 for P29,995 last Sat  and it seems that it is good enough to drive my speakers for the moment.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: dexterc on Jan 13, 2003 at 02:24 PM
so is 6.1 matrix then really DD EX, I mean exact technologies, just different name?


What is the cheapest Yamaha Model  that already have DTS ES and DD EX features? ? ;D
Title: Phased out na nga ba ang Yamaha RXV430?
Post by: Geren on Jan 13, 2003 at 03:17 PM
I went to Ambassador in Greenhills and asked for a Yamaha RXV 430. Sabi sa akin wala na sila kasi for phased-out na raw at ang available nila ay yung VX630 na lang. I did'nt believe him so i kept on looking around. Wala lahat, I checked out also sa SM Megamall and ubos daw lahat at hindi pa raw dumarating yung order nila.

Is it true na wala na nga ang Yamaha VX430? What is your review sa entry level ng Pioneer? How much is the lowest price for an Onkyo SR500 and where?

Please Help.
Title: Re:Phased out na nga ba ang Yamaha VX430?
Post by: Philander on Jan 13, 2003 at 03:33 PM
Its not yet phased out.

Sabihin mo dun sa nagsabi na phased out na ang 430, dapat phased out na rin ang 530, 630 at lahat ang *30 series.

Try mo magsearch sa mga AV shop sa Parksquare 1. Or sa Rockwell Powerplant, sa may SM appliance center, may YAMAHA Center dun I just saw a Yammie 430 there.

Forget about Pioneer receiver. You may consider H/K 2550, Onkyo 500, Denon 1603.
Title: Re:Phased out na nga ba ang Yamaha RXV430?
Post by: Kings on Jan 13, 2003 at 03:34 PM
Si Mr. Sonny Tuazon ng Home Theater, meron pang 430. I just saw it late last month. :)
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Courage on Jan 13, 2003 at 05:51 PM
Bro..i think its Yammy RXV 1200..yung 430 - 730 ata eh matrix lang eh..medyo old model pero true 6.1
Title: Re:Phased out na nga ba ang Yamaha RXV430?
Post by: Courage on Jan 13, 2003 at 05:53 PM
Try mo sa D'Cinema..the 430 is also available dun
Title: Re:Phased out na nga ba ang Yamaha RXV430?
Post by: T-Rex on Jan 13, 2003 at 06:39 PM
Have a friend who is considering to sell (at a slight discount) his RX-V430 which he bought only last December. If you have interest let me know your contact number so I could ask him to give you a buzz.

 ;)
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: ryn0128 on Jan 14, 2003 at 10:06 AM
send me an sms if youre friend is already willing to sell his yammy. give the best price. 0917-2438425
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: bigbird2323 on Jan 15, 2003 at 10:38 PM
I'm looking for a good deal ,so if you guys are selling or know of someone who is.please let me know.I'm looking for a reciever and speakers.I'm on a budget  that why i'm looking for a bargain.tnx btw how much is the yamaha?,please text me 09178157800.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Flyboy on Jan 21, 2003 at 09:15 AM
Hey YAMMY fans,

Does anyone of you knows where to find these entry-level A/V receivers & HTIB(YHT300) from YAMAHA? Based on on-line prices they're cheap & specs can be compared to expensive AVRs in the market.

YAMAHA HTR 5540 (http://www.yamaha.com/cgi-win/webcgi.exe/DsplyModel/?gAVR00010HTR-5540[b)
YAMAHA HTR 5550 (http://www.yamaha.com/cgi-win/webcgi.exe/DsplyModel/?gAVR00010HTR-5550[b)
YAMAHA YHT 300(HTIB) (http://www.yamaha.com/cgi-win/webcgi.exe/DsplyModel/?gRSY00010YHT-300[b)

I would appreciate any help. Thanks in advance!

 ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: LoBudget on Jan 22, 2003 at 05:26 AM
courage - did you say that the 430 has true 6.1? or that the 430-730 have matrix?

i dont think i saw a rear center for the 430, parang emulated lang yon... tama ba?
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: ants on Jan 22, 2003 at 08:37 AM
emulated ata yan
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: killer_eyes on Jan 22, 2003 at 09:10 AM
guys

what do u think of a second hand rx-v2220(not very sure of the model) pero parang ganun yung nakita ko...and its selling around 43,000 yen, almost 17K php...

i think the price is good pero what should i look for in buying this av, paano ko malalaman na its still in a good condition?

balak ko kasi bilin coz mura na diba?
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Courage on Jan 22, 2003 at 09:12 AM
Killer,

pag ayus pa yung avr tapos nabili mo, pag uwi mo dito i benta mo nang mura sa akin ehehehehe or yung denon mo ehehe ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: dexterc on Jan 22, 2003 at 09:18 AM
Killer,

pag ayus pa yung avr tapos nabili mo, pag uwi mo dito i benta mo nang mura sa akin ehehehehe or yung denon mo ehehe ;D


bro,

ayos sa hirit he!!he!! na text mo ba yung nagbebenta ng Wharf? ala ako datung ngayon kaya sayo na lang
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: killer_eyes on Jan 22, 2003 at 09:20 AM
hahaha loko loko lalagay ko yung denon sa bedroom yung yamaha sa HT room hehehe...

Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Courage on Jan 22, 2003 at 09:27 AM
Sige lagay mo yung denon sa bedroom ehehehe bedroom ko ehehehehe ;D.

Tingin ka pa nang AVR na mura dyan tapos PM mo sa akin ang model at price
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: killer_eyes on Jan 22, 2003 at 09:31 AM
madami pre kung brand new walang prob...mas mura for sure yung voltage lang ang prob coz 110....

yung denon 1602 ko is more or less 10K na lang eh makano ba dyan? brand new yun....

madami lang akong nakita dun sa second hand baka next month bumalik ako para try ko yung 2220

tapos check ko na din yung price nung dm603


yung sa kasama ko nga diba 1300 yung nabili nya pumapatak na mga 24K
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: killer_eyes on Jan 23, 2003 at 09:34 AM
guys

any suggestion paano ko ma checheck maigi yung 2200?  ???
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Courage on Jan 23, 2003 at 01:33 PM
killer,

better talaga na i demo mo yung Reciever and crank the volume up
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: killer_eyes on Jan 23, 2003 at 02:19 PM
ok fafa jason...ganun ko na lang tetestingin? mga ilang mins kaya? hehehe pero malamang nde papasagad nung tindera yun at maiingayan hahahaha ayaw ng maiingay ng mga hapon eh hehehe
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Courage on Jan 23, 2003 at 02:28 PM
Hindi ba uso ang customer is always right ehehehe
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: killer_eyes on Jan 23, 2003 at 03:53 PM
uso naman mababait ang mga sales person dito eh nde tulad sa atin minsan diba..dito kahit simple lang dating eh pinapansin...eh diba sa atin eh minsan pag simple lang dating mo tapos ex. papasok ka ng showroom sa dealer ng kotse ayaw mamansin tipong ganun hehehe...


dito ok naman...kaya bahala na sana nandun pa yung 2200...or hanap din ako ng maganda

guys magkano ba brand new na 2200 baka kasi mamaya nde nagkakalayo ang price eh sayang naman
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: toyks on Jan 27, 2003 at 10:42 AM
killer,

saan ka dito sa japan?...

about the japanese model DSP-AX2200 (equivalent int'l model: RX-V2200)na nakita mo sa 2nd hand shop, the selling price sa pinas is around 40k below (ata, im not really sure) base kasi sa price ng RX-V2300 na brand new which is around 45k, malamang nasa 5k to 7k less ang 2200...(anyone please correct me if im wrong)

ano palang brand ng speakers ang gamit mo?



HELP,

tulong naman kung anong brand ng speakers ang maganda ang performance...YAMAHA speakers kasi ang gamit ko ngayon.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Courage on Jan 27, 2003 at 01:54 PM
killer,

saan ka dito sa japan?...

about the japanese model DSP-AX2200 (equivalent int'l model: RX-V2200)na nakita mo sa 2nd hand shop, the selling price sa pinas is around 40k below (ata, im not really sure) base kasi sa price ng RX-V2300 na brand new which is around 45k, malamang nasa 5k to 7k less ang 2200...(anyone please correct me if im wrong)

ano palang brand ng speakers ang gamit mo?



HELP,

tulong naman kung anong brand ng speakers ang maganda ang performance...YAMAHA speakers kasi ang gamit ko ngayon.

Bro check mo yung B&W na thread dito....maganda reviews dito nang B&W..kahit ako eh pangarap ko na B&W ang speakers ko. ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: warpzone on Jan 27, 2003 at 02:05 PM

HELP,

tulong naman kung anong brand ng speakers ang maganda ang performance...YAMAHA speakers kasi ang gamit ko ngayon.

try B&W or Mission speakers.. i prefer B&W though :)
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: toyks on Jan 27, 2003 at 02:14 PM
courage,  warpzone....

thanks mga pre! magbabasa ko about B&W.

oo nga pala, alin ang mas prefer nyo sa subwoofer? yun bang forward or downward firing?  :)
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Courage on Jan 27, 2003 at 02:21 PM
courage,  warpzone....

thanks mga pre! magbabasa ko about B&W.

oo nga pala, alin ang mas prefer nyo sa subwoofer? yun bang forward or downward firing?  :)

Pare depende yun sa pandinig mo..basta sa HT mas maganda kung feel mo yung bass
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: dexterc on Jan 27, 2003 at 03:01 PM
Meow - ok na ok, maraming controls na mapaglalaruan... but mukhang medyo matatagalan ang pag-calibrate  :o I like the center geq, tsaka yung dsp modes maririnig mo talaga yung changes sa effects. Meow, tips na naman diyan  sa settings ;D

GLXi95 - Try listening to DPL2 first, pag talagang gusto mo. call Sonny of HomeTheater pwedeng trade in ata.  ;D You'll get a good deal. ;)



Can anuone confirm this? Trade in yung lumang receiver sa mas bago?
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Courage on Jan 27, 2003 at 03:23 PM
dex,

pwede yan.. i aske mr sonny tuazon dati and payag sya..depende na nga lang daw kung magkano mo bibitiwan yung luma mong receiver.

Nakakaamoy ako nang upgrade ah ehehehehe
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: jackryan on Jan 27, 2003 at 03:29 PM
Courage,

Pwede bang patanong if Mr. Tuazon can sell a Yamaha remote that is compatible with RXV-795a ?

If yes, please pm price.

thanks,
-jackryan 8)
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: dexterc on Jan 27, 2003 at 03:31 PM
Jason,

Wala pang budget bro he!!he!!pero kung upgrade ako yung may dts-es at dd ex na  ;D ;D

How i wish  :P
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Courage on Jan 27, 2003 at 03:39 PM
Jason,

Wala pang budget bro he!!he!!pero kung upgrade ako yung may dts-es at dd ex na  ;D ;D

How i wish  :P

dex,

same here..how i wish din ehehehehe
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: obey on Mar 15, 2003 at 02:33 AM
Hi guys!  I'm really a newbie when it comes to HT setups.  

I only have a P20T budget for a receiver and probably the main speakers.  Will it be possible for me to get the Yamaha RX-V430 and a pair of decent sounding speakers with this budget?  BTW, Plan to use my old sony mini-component speakers as surround speakers in the meantime.  

I also heard of Dai-ichi speakers which some say are relatively cheap.  How much do their floor standing speakers cost?  Will the speakers be compatible with the rx-v430?  Really need your advice.

Thanks and more power!






 

Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: levi on Mar 15, 2003 at 03:01 AM
You could get Wharfedale Diamond Bookshelves and Yamaha 430. Another option would be 2nd hand recievers so can also buy a center speaker.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: obey on Mar 15, 2003 at 10:04 AM
Thanks for the reply levi!

I have a very small room.  In fact, it only has space for a single bed and a wide cabinet (4 drawers) that i would be using as my tv, avr, and dvd rack.  I also use the cabinet as a storage place for my clothes and other personal stuff.  I have read in this forum that if you have a small room, bookshelf speakers are the way to go.  However, I think both aesthetically and space-saving-wise, floorstanding speakers would be the best option for my room.  

What would you recommend as decent-sounding but relatively cheap floorstanding speakers?  How much and where can I buy them?

Last question, I plan to mount my surround speakers at the corners of the ceiling of my room.  What would be the best way to position them?  Facing directly down or at an angle so that they would in effect be facing me? BTW, Naka sagad yung bed ko sa wall.

Sorry, dami kong tanong.

Thanks in advance and more power!  
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: nerveblocker on Mar 15, 2003 at 11:44 AM
Obey- With your budget, you can get a 2nd hand receiver (w/c you can browse in assorted buy and sell).  Maraming nagbebenta dyan ng mura lang and marami ding mga yamaha na binebenta dyan.  For your budget, you can get great sounding custom made bookshelves and a center speaker from us.  Send me a pm if you need help so we could work around your budget.  Cheers! ;)  
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: obey on Mar 15, 2003 at 12:00 PM
Thanks nirvblakr!

I've been reading a lot of good reviews regarding your speakers and i am indeed interested.  Would bookshelves be the way to go?  Personally, I would really like slim floorstanders since it would be a perfect fit for my room.  In addition, still have no plans of getting a sub so I guess I would be needing the extra bass from my main speakers which incidentally floorstanders would give.  Anyway, I'll get in touch with you once i get hold of my AVR.

More power!
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: gianboy on Mar 15, 2003 at 01:40 PM
obey,

we have almost the same budget when i get interested to HT... and with the description of your room also the same.... my room is 3.5 x 3 meters where in the a king size bed in the middle cabinete on your footer.... so i guess my kind of setup will fit onto yours. i have a setup that sound resonable enough, i did use sattelites, center and a sub.

email me at [email protected] if you want more details.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: obey on Mar 15, 2003 at 08:38 PM
gianboy,

Share mo naman sa amin dito sa board kung ano HT
setup mo.  Maybe we can get some ideas.  

Thanks!
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: levi on Mar 15, 2003 at 10:35 PM
dexterc,

   I fixed your post.

Levi
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 16, 2003 at 03:48 PM
Sir Obey,

If your interested in buying an AVR available pa yun Yamaha 620 slightly used 3 months old  ko.. text me 0916-7300331
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: obey on Mar 17, 2003 at 12:25 AM
Hans Adriane,

I hope you don't mind me asking pero "Bakit mo binebenta AVR mo?".  

Plan ko kasi bilhin yung RX-V430.  Ano ba yung features ng 430 na wala sa 620?  Pro Logic II na ba ang 620?  Pasensiya na ha kasi wala pa talaga akong masyadong alam sa HT setups.  

Thanks!  
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Courage on Mar 17, 2003 at 11:12 AM
Hans Adriane,

I hope you don't mind me asking pero "Bakit mo binebenta AVR mo?".  

Plan ko kasi bilhin yung RX-V430.  Ano ba yung features ng 430 na wala sa 620?  Pro Logic II na ba ang 620?  Pasensiya na ha kasi wala pa talaga akong masyadong alam sa HT setups.  

Thanks!  

The diff of 430 sa 620 is only the DPL2. but the 620 has more power against 430 and 620 eh naka OSD na..plus hindi clip terminals ang speaker connection sa likod.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: obey on Mar 18, 2003 at 12:28 AM
Courage,

So which would be a better buy? 430 or 620?

Thanks.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: Courage on Mar 18, 2003 at 08:18 AM
Courage,

So which would be a better buy? 430 or 620?

Thanks.

If power ang habol mo, On Screen DIsplay, More Ins and Outs, Better speaker Terminals go for the 620 now kung DPL2 lang at mas modelo ang habol mo go for the 430.

Ill choose the 620 against the 430 any time of the day...unless 620 Vs 630 na ang usapan.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: sgc_wdi on Mar 18, 2003 at 11:22 AM
courage sent u PM :)
Title: Re: Latest Yamaha Receivers 740,640,540 and 440
Post by: levi on Mar 30, 2003 at 11:00 PM
Check out the latest receivers from Yamaha.

Yamaha RXV-740,640,540 and 440 (http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/index.html)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Mar 31, 2003 at 10:00 AM
Wow may bago na naman ang yamaha, plus naka DTS-ES na.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dexterc on Mar 31, 2003 at 10:04 AM
OO nga bro...hmmmm di na lang kaya ako mag upgrade he!!he!! Baka may 7.1 na next year, Competition is really good.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Mar 31, 2003 at 10:20 AM
OO nga bro...hmmmm di na lang kaya ako mag upgrade he!!he!! Baka may 7.1 na next year, Competition is really good.

Ehehehe oo nga bro..pwede ka mag antay muna..baka nga may 7.1 na next year.. Yan lang kagandahan nang NAD at Harman..kasi u can buy a cheap 2 channel amplifier para 7.1 na or 7.2 agad no need to sell the whole unit to make ur equipment 7.1.... ;)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Mar 31, 2003 at 10:22 AM
Pansin ko lang sa RXV X40 series nang yamha eh pareho nang power rating nang X20 series hindi tulad nung x30 series nila...hmmmmmm
Title: Re: Latest Yamaha Receivers 740,640,540 and 440
Post by: Dracula on Mar 31, 2003 at 10:41 AM
Check out the latest receivers from Yamaha.

Yamaha RXV-740,640,540 and 440 (http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/index.html)

are these models available here already? Sana harman releases there own batch of affordable 6.1 systems hmmm hindi muna ako bili ng marantz wait muna tayo mag release ang ibang companies ng model nila.

I read the x40 series brochure yamaha is boasting of high current amplification is this similar to the harman and nad receivers?
Title: Re: Latest Yamaha Receivers 740,640,540 and 440
Post by: Courage on Mar 31, 2003 at 10:47 AM
Check out the latest receivers from Yamaha.

Yamaha RXV-740,640,540 and 440 (http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/index.html)

are these models available here already? Sana harman releases there own batch of affordable 6.1 systems hmmm hindi muna ako bili ng marantz wait muna tayo mag release ang ibang companies ng model nila.

Pare antay ka lang..baka after 1 month eh available na yan dito
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sgc_wdi on Mar 31, 2003 at 02:11 PM
are these X40 series models cheaper than the RXV1300? They seems to have the same feature set at first glance... power ratings range from 95x6 to 135x6 from RXV440 - 740... so I'm wondering what Yamaha's purpose is on coming out with these X40 models?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: BuLLeT on Mar 31, 2003 at 02:24 PM
I'm sure that the X30 series models will have a price drop upon the arrival of the X40.

"Good things come to those who wait"
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Dracula on Mar 31, 2003 at 02:26 PM
are these X40 series models cheaper than the RXV1300? They seems to have the same feature set at first glance... power ratings range from 95x6 to 135x6 from RXV440 - 740... so I'm wondering what Yamaha's purpose is on coming out with these X40 models?

maybe they need a line of receivers which can directly compete with affordable 6.1's from marantz and other companies we'll find out when this comes out locally if the price is competitive.  I'm holding my plans to upgrade while I wait for the new 6.1 receivers to come out.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sgc_wdi on Apr 01, 2003 at 11:18 AM
yeah, I hope they start selling these models here... hopefully these models will be in the 25k range... the only major differences I notice between the X40 models and the RXV1300 model is the 96khz/24bit DAC as compared to 192khz/24bit DAC of the 1300, and much more audio and video connections... other than that, I think they both have the same technology...
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 01, 2003 at 11:23 AM
are these X40 series models cheaper than the RXV1300? They seems to have the same feature set at first glance... power ratings range from 95x6 to 135x6 from RXV440 - 740... so I'm wondering what Yamaha's purpose is on coming out with these X40 models?

I think because yung mga entry level nilang lumabas eh hindi supported ang DTS-ES(RXV-430 - 730)..

Unlike yung denon na 1803,Onkyo TXsr600, Marantz S4300..supported na ang DTS-ES...

Sa yamaha nasa MID End ang kelangan mong kunin to have DTS-ES(RXV-1200 - up and RXV 1300 - Up)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MeowPao on Apr 01, 2003 at 01:36 PM
are these X40 series models cheaper than the RXV1300? They seems to have the same feature set at first glance... power ratings range from 95x6 to 135x6 from RXV440 - 740... so I'm wondering what Yamaha's purpose is on coming out with these X40 models?

The amp section of the 1x00 series appear to be larger and better designed. Also, the transformers appear to be bigger compared to the x40 series. Also, 192/24 DAC compared to the 96/24.

I think Yamaha came out with the x40 series for affordable Home Theater, while the 1x00 series are for the combination of Music and HT.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sgc_wdi on Apr 02, 2003 at 11:11 AM
the X40 series should be good enough for me... kailangan kaya magkakaroon dito nito...
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Dracula on Apr 02, 2003 at 01:06 PM
the X40 series should be good enough for me... kailangan kaya magkakaroon dito nito...

I asked the listening room in megamall next month daw baka available na siya pero hindi pa raw sure

If anybody has info on the availability of these receivers lets keep the community updated. ;)

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: obey on Apr 03, 2003 at 02:19 PM
Just bought a yamaha rx-v430 w/ wharfedale 8.1 (main) and a diamond center.  Just used my old sony minicomponent's (FH-515)speakers as surrounds.  All I can say is very contented naman ako sa sound ng setup ko.  One thing I like about yamaha is that the preset sound effects indeed sound like the real thing hence usable talaga siya.  So ngayon ipon na lang ako for a subwoofer.  Malamang custom-made ni sir nirvblakr ang kunin ko.  

More power!
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 03, 2003 at 03:46 PM
Just bought a yamaha rx-v430 w/ wharfedale 8.1 (main) and a diamond center.  Just used my old sony minicomponent's (FH-515)speakers as surrounds.  All I can say is very contented naman ako sa sound ng setup ko.  One thing I like about yamaha is that their preset sound effects indeed sound like the real thing hence usable talaga siya.  So ngayon ipon na lang ako for the subwoofer.  Malamang custom-made ni sir nirvblakr ang kunin ko.  

More power!

Pare congrats on ur new setup..di mo pag sisisihan yan..coz its a yamaha...i too was a proud owner of a yamaha before and very satisfied ako..dun...medy tinamaan lang nang sakit na SARS(Severe Audio Replacement Syndrome) ehehehe
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: obey on Apr 03, 2003 at 05:06 PM
Courage,

Thanks pare!  Ok lang yun na mabiktima ka ng SARS dahil nakakahawa talaga yan :)  Buti ka may pambili ng gamot.  Ano pala ang ipinalit mo sa yamaha mo?

Re my HT setup, ano sa tingin mo ang sub na pwede kong ikabit dito?  Btw, maliit talaga ang room ko i.e. konti na lang ang space sa side and front kung maglagay ka ng queen-sized bed :)  Yung gusto ko sana yung ok for both HT and music and siyempre yung mura lang (P5K to P7K range). Suggest ka na rin kung ano yung suitable na power rating (watts) para sa kwarto ko. Ayoko rin kasi na ma-overpower naman ng sub yung main and surrounds.  Di pa naman ako nagmamadali bumili dahil wala pa pambili :) Ipon muna ko then decide. Thanks ulit!

More power!    
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 04, 2003 at 12:16 PM
Obey,

Nice choice sir for sub kay Mel na dun ko din nabili yun sub ko price range around 6k ata pero 250 watts rms kaya ok na ok don't worry about the overpower since you can just adjust the crossover and volume to your preferences so if you move to a bigger room pasok na pasok pa rin sir.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 04, 2003 at 03:15 PM
Courage,

Thanks pare!  Ok lang yun na mabiktima ka ng SARS dahil nakakahawa talaga yan :)  Buti ka may pambili ng gamot.  Ano pala ang ipinalit mo sa yamaha mo?

Re my HT setup, ano sa tingin mo ang sub na pwede kong ikabit dito?  Btw, maliit talaga ang room ko i.e. konti na lang ang space sa side and front kung maglagay ka ng queen-sized bed :)  Yung gusto ko sana yung ok for both HT and music and siyempre yung mura lang (P5K to P7K range). Suggest ka na rin kung ano yung suitable na power rating (watts) para sa kwarto ko. Ayoko rin kasi na ma-overpower naman ng sub yung main and surrounds.  Di pa naman ako nagmamadali bumili dahil wala pa pambili :) Ipon muna ko then decide. Thanks ulit!

More power!    

Obey,

Pare sa sub u can try Mel's Custom Made sub..there are lots of owners here nang sub ni mel and all u can hear are praises..or sa budget mong yan u can get a DQ12 or US Audio 512i.

There's no such thing as overpower kasi may volume control naman to match the subs level to ur fronts eh..mas maganda nga yung over power kesa underpower(bitin).

I replaced my yamaha with a NAD receiver..

Enjoy ur setup bro :)

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: obey on Apr 04, 2003 at 08:49 PM
Thanks for the replies hans adriane and courage!  Masaya naman ako sa setup ko ngayon.  Update ko kayo pag nakabili na ako ng subwoofer.  

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: nerveblocker on Apr 05, 2003 at 04:21 PM
obey-  If you really have a small room, you can even get an 8 inch active sub lang and I'm sure it can power your room.  

You can audition different subs to suit your preference. Hope you get to audition our subs din before you choose what to get.  

Cheers! ;)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: obey on Apr 06, 2003 at 10:14 AM
I've been reading a lot about subwoofers being down-firing, front-firing, side-firing, etc.  Would there really be a notable difference in terms of their sound quality and the amount of bass they generate?  What others things do I need to know about them?  Thanks!
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dexterc on Apr 08, 2003 at 07:15 AM
I've been reading a lot about subwoofers being down-firing, front-firing, side-firing, etc.  Would there really be a notable difference in terms of their sound quality and the amount of bass they generate?  What others things do I need to know about them?  Thanks!


Bro,

First things first..whats your liking? Saan mo madalas gamitin yung set up mo?.Is it more on HT or Music? The different kinds of Subs have their own specialty..others are good for HT..others for music.So i think you should figure out first in yourself kung saan mo madalas gamitin ang SET UP mo. ;D

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: obey on Apr 08, 2003 at 07:21 AM
dexterc,

60% HT / 40% Music ang gamit ko sa setup ko.  What kind of sub would you suggest?  Thanks!
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dexterc on Apr 08, 2003 at 07:30 AM
dexterc,

60% HT / 40% Music ang gamit ko sa setup ko.  What kind of sub would you suggest?  Thanks!
Thats a close call obey...better yet audition ka na lang ng subs and depende na rin sa budget mo he!!he!!...Kung bias ka sana either more on music or more on HT,then much easier to chose ka pero since halos pareho mo ang hilig mo...audition is the best i could suggest  ;)

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: levi on Apr 08, 2003 at 03:05 PM
Guys,

    Let us stick to the topic. :)

Levi
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: artsky on Apr 08, 2003 at 06:22 PM
I am interested in yamaha receivers but since I am new in this area, I have no idea about Yamaha's norm regarding the model series  of their units. Does a higher number mean a better receiver?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dexterc on Apr 09, 2003 at 07:10 AM
I am interested in yamaha receivers but since I am new in this area, I have no idea about Yamaha's norm regarding the model series  of their units. Does a higher number mean a better receiver?

Basically yes...their 430,530,630,730,1300 series are the current new models for yamaha..but in a month or so..their 440,540,640,740 series will come out

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 09, 2003 at 12:56 PM
Dex,

Pagipunan mo yung 740..mukang mabangis yun  :). siguradong mabangis din ang presyo
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dexterc on Apr 09, 2003 at 01:11 PM
Dex,

Pagipunan mo yung 740..mukang mabangis yun  :). siguradong mabangis din ang presyo

Yup...i think this series of yamaha are really upto par with other receivers as far as HT is concern.In music..thats what i have to find out he!!he!!

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 09, 2003 at 01:39 PM
Wala pa bang date kung kelan darating yan dito sa pinas?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 09, 2003 at 05:24 PM
yun High current amplification ng new models... does this means na almost same na sila ng Harman and NAD?? or Hindi pa??
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: john5479 on Apr 10, 2003 at 03:00 AM
It's better to audition them first and see how it sounds :) They also claim that their amps have a damping factor of 100, NAD only claims 60.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Qman on Apr 10, 2003 at 03:14 AM
It's better to audition them first and see how it sounds :) They also claim that their amps have a damping factor of 100, NAD only claims 60.
sir john ano iyong damping factor?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: john5479 on Apr 10, 2003 at 08:32 AM
Qatarman sent you a pm :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sgc_wdi on Apr 10, 2003 at 11:46 AM
guys anyone know where I can get the cheapest RX-V1300? around 34k sa listening sa shangrila... anyone come upon a cheaper one?

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sgc_wdi on Apr 14, 2003 at 10:50 AM
mabilis bang uminit ang Yamaha receivers?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 14, 2003 at 10:52 AM
mabilis bang uminit ang Yamaha receivers?

Yung RXV520 ko eh hinid mabilis uminit..mas mabilis pang uminit yung Denon 1803 ko dati
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sgc_wdi on Apr 14, 2003 at 11:04 AM
I see thanks, kasi yung pinaglalagyan ko ng Yammy ko medyo kulong eh, so mas walang ventilation ng air...
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 14, 2003 at 12:41 PM
I see thanks, kasi yung pinaglalagyan ko ng Yammy ko medyo kulong eh, so mas walang ventilation ng air...

I see to it na well ventilated ang mga equipment ko...yang init ang number 1 na kaaway nang Ampli natin
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sgc_wdi on Apr 14, 2003 at 09:08 PM
I see, wala kasi akong hifi rack eh, I guess I have to start looking for one...
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Dracula on Apr 15, 2003 at 02:36 PM
The cheapest of the new receivers might be priced somewhere in the range of 22k to 24k since its being sold in the uk for an srp of 299.99 pounds. hmmm mukhang marantz na lang ako......
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Mo®pHeOu$ on Apr 15, 2003 at 06:27 PM
The cheapest of the new receivers might be priced somewhere in the range of 22k to 24k since its being sold in the uk for an srp of 299.99 pounds. hmmm mukhang marantz na lang ako......

are those yamaha with DD-EX and DTS-ES features already?

thanks.  ;)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Pasoot on Apr 16, 2003 at 11:48 PM
any news on yamaha tss-10?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MeowPao on Apr 17, 2003 at 10:36 AM
guys anyone know where I can get the cheapest RX-V1300? around 34k sa listening sa shangrila... anyone come upon a cheaper one?

You can try checking out Ambassador Shangrila - look for Alex... for sure he'll have a lower price. :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sgc_wdi on Apr 17, 2003 at 10:37 AM
thanks moewpao, i already bought one sa may park square :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: enygma on Apr 17, 2003 at 11:23 AM
thanks moewpao, i already bought one sa may park square :)

post naman ng review with your brand new toy. i guess by this time nakaka-ilang dvd's ka na.  ;D what about sa music? oks ba siya?  ???
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JoP on Apr 17, 2003 at 11:21 PM
obey
Quote
Just bought a yamaha rx-v430 w/ wharfedale 8.1 (main) and a diamond center.  Just used my old sony minicomponent's (FH-515)speakers as surrounds.  All I can say is very contented naman ako sa sound ng setup ko.  One thing I like about yamaha is that the preset sound effects indeed sound like the real thing hence usable talaga siya.  So ngayon ipon na lang ako for a subwoofer.  Malamang custom-made ni sir nirvblakr ang kunin ko.  

More power!

magkano score mo sa wharfedale at diamont center mo?, saan ka nakabili? balak ko rin kasing bumili ng rx-v430 di ko pa kasi alam kung anung speaker ang imamatch ko!

Thanks ??? :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Qman on Apr 17, 2003 at 11:25 PM
thanks moewpao, i already bought one sa may park square :)

post naman ng review with your brand new toy. i guess by this time nakaka-ilang dvd's ka na.  ;D what about sa music? oks ba siya?  ???

oo nga sgc, anong pair mong speakers and sub?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sgc_wdi on Apr 18, 2003 at 07:14 AM
enygma, I've seen siguro 1 or 2 movies palang... but so far am very satisfied with the quality and power the yamaha produces... I've tried music cds din, although I have not heard music cds on other receivers, impressed din ako with how it can play them, especially on pro logic II.

anyway, for me it's a great buy, I'll try to break it in more and play more dvds and music cds.. but so far it has yet to disappoint me :)

Qman, I only use Bose Acoustimass 10 modules and A-Audio sub ni nirv :)
Title: yamaha rx-v630
Post by: geko on Apr 21, 2003 at 05:39 PM
anybody using/tried yamaha rx-v630? is this a good buy?  ???   i would like to hear your opinons.  

i am looking at upgrading from a Pioneer VSX-D702S (acquired '94 pa).    

thanks.  :)
Title: Re:yamaha rx-v630
Post by: Philander on Apr 21, 2003 at 07:39 PM
You may find reviews here:

http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=1622
Title: Re:yamaha rx-v630
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Apr 21, 2003 at 11:31 PM
anybody using/tried yamaha rx-v630? is this a good buy?  ???   i would like to hear your opinons.  

i am looking at upgrading from a Pioneer VSX-D702S (acquired '94 pa).    

thanks.  :)

is use the 630 as a pre/pro. they're fine, overall, but if you like a phono stage (for LPs) and DTS 6.1 discrete, you won't get it from the 630. your next best bet is the rxv-1200 if you want all these features.

if the price is right, though, the 630 is a good buy. it matches well with warm sounding, slightly boomy speakers since yamahas can sound bright. bass extension and mids are somewhat limited too for 2-channel audio.

just my 2 cents

good luck!
Title: Re:yamaha rx-v630
Post by: geko on Apr 22, 2003 at 08:28 AM
thanks, guys.  ;D  bisitahin ko mamaya 'yung link.  trabaho muna...
Title: Re:yamaha rx-v630
Post by: geko on Apr 22, 2003 at 12:48 PM
anybody using/tried yamaha rx-v630? is this a good buy?  ???   i would like to hear your opinons.  

i am looking at upgrading from a Pioneer VSX-D702S (acquired '94 pa).    

thanks.  :)

is use the 630 as a pre/pro. they're fine, overall, but if you like a phono stage (for LPs) and DTS 6.1 discrete, you won't get it from the 630. your next best bet is the rxv-1200 if you want all these features.

if the price is right, though, the 630 is a good buy. it matches well with warm sounding, slightly boomy speakers since yamahas can sound bright. bass extension and mids are somewhat limited too for 2-channel audio.

just my 2 cents

good luck!

i am eyeing b&w dm303s  & b&W LCR3 speakers to match with the yamaha rx-v603.  would this setup work?  any recommendation on the speakers?  subwoofer?  home-grown speakers/sub kaya? ???  

would appreciate any help.  btw, i listen to a lot more music than watch video.

thanks.    

 


Title: Re:yamaha rx-v630
Post by: sgc_wdi on Apr 22, 2003 at 05:09 PM
geko, I think B&Ws would match well with Yamaha's, although since you mentioned you will use this more for music than movie, I think a number of people here would recommend a different receiver, like the NAD or Harman Kardon... :)
Title: Re:yamaha rx-v630
Post by: geko on Apr 22, 2003 at 05:34 PM
geko, I think B&Ws would match well with Yamaha's, although since you mentioned you will use this more for music than movie, I think a number of people here would recommend a different receiver, like the NAD or Harman Kardon... :)

which models of NAD or Harmon Kardon would you recommended?  siguro 'yung halos kaparehas ng specs ng yamaha rx-v630 at nasa PhP 20-25K range.    

thanks again!  :)

Title: Re:yamaha rx-v630
Post by: enygma on Apr 22, 2003 at 06:35 PM

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which models of NAD or Harmon Kardon would you recommended?  siguro 'yung halos kaparehas ng specs ng yamaha rx-v630 at nasa PhP 20-25K range.    

thanks again!  :)


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harman 3550 and nad t741 or t742. but both are 5.1 only compared to 630 w/c is 6.1.   :)
Title: Re:yamaha rx-v630
Post by: abj104 on Apr 22, 2003 at 10:46 PM
Sir tuff u gong,
i haven't experienced listening to a Phono /LP using a receiver, does it sound better than CD,s ?
I'm using an RXV 800 yamaha receiver at present.

ano bang brand ng PHONO ang maganda.
How much will be the cheapest? na maganda rin ang tunog.Kung makakuha ng mura ,ano ba yung dapat na modification (i.e needle)

appreciate your inputs.
thanks!
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Dracula on Apr 23, 2003 at 07:51 AM
The cheapest of the new receivers might be priced somewhere in the range of 22k to 24k since its being sold in the uk for an srp of 299.99 pounds. hmmm mukhang marantz na lang ako......

are those yamaha with DD-EX and DTS-ES features already?

thanks.  ;)

Sabi doon sa yamaha website the receivers have both DD-EX and DTS-ES also yamaha is boasting high current amplification on its new amps.  They also have a lot of power under the hood the lowest model which is the rxv440 reportedly has 110 watts.  Problem is the local distributors still have no idea when these units will hit our shores or what there prices will be ;D
Title: Re:yamaha rx-v630
Post by: Courage on Apr 23, 2003 at 08:23 AM
geko, I think B&Ws would match well with Yamaha's, although since you mentioned you will use this more for music than movie, I think a number of people here would recommend a different receiver, like the NAD or Harman Kardon... :)

which models of NAD or Harmon Kardon would you recommended?  siguro 'yung halos kaparehas ng specs ng yamaha rx-v630 at nasa PhP 20-25K range.    

thanks again!  :)



NAD T742 or Harman 2550 or 3550 ata yun
Title: Re:yamaha rx-v630
Post by: geko on Apr 23, 2003 at 10:32 AM
geko, I think B&Ws would match well with Yamaha's, although since you mentioned you will use this more for music than movie, I think a number of people here would recommend a different receiver, like the NAD or Harman Kardon... :)

which models of NAD or Harmon Kardon would you recommended?  siguro 'yung halos kaparehas ng specs ng yamaha rx-v630 at nasa PhP 20-25K range.    

thanks again!  :)



NAD T742 or Harman 2550 or 3550 ata yun

thanks, guys!

where can i check out NADs & HKs?  dito lang ako sa makati.
   
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 23, 2003 at 10:37 AM
NAD and HK's are available in SPectra at Park Square
Title: Re:yamaha rx-v630
Post by: enygma on Apr 23, 2003 at 10:39 AM
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thanks, guys!

where can i check out NADs & HKs?  dito lang ako sa makati.
   
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nad and hk sa spectra in park square. you can also check hk sa architectural audio (new world hotel). doon ko nabili iyung hk5500 ko.  :)
Title: Re:yamaha rx-v630
Post by: geko on Apr 23, 2003 at 12:39 PM
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thanks, guys!

where can i check out NADs & HKs?  dito lang ako sa makati.
   
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nad and hk sa spectra in park square. you can also check hk sa architectural audio (new world hotel). doon ko nabili iyung hk5500 ko.  :)


ok!  thanks again, guys!

i am narrowing down my choices between NADs & HKs.  check ko lang models & price ranges.  :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 23, 2003 at 01:05 PM
Why dont u try Denon 1803, Marantz SR5300, Onkyo TX-SR500 or 600..

Nasa price range mo yang mga yan..plus 6.1 na yan.. :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jofkevski on Apr 23, 2003 at 01:23 PM
My comments on new Yamaha receivers x40 series.

About the hoopla on high current:
- Yamaha receivers have been a good receivers that publishes accurate ratings (e.g. 630 though rated 75Wpc can pump up to 88Wpc at .06%THD). the high current publicity of Yamaha lately is more of a marketing ploy for the mass market. For the 440 model, it is necessary to increase current rating because of the addition of 6th amp. (so with 540). The 640 model needs addl current capacity because their published specs now of 85watts each to the 6 channels. (and so with 740). In all four receivers, the total additional current capacity should answer for the about 60-70 watts additional power requirement of the new models.

- the hoopla on 4-level inline board DSP processors
signal path has nothing to do here as this is digital realm. whether path is longer or shorter, in the digital realm, doesnt matter as long as binary (as in 1s and 0s) are transmitted error-free. In the analog realm, this design maybe substantial (of wich DSP is not). Yamaha need to do this basically to increase room on amplifier section.

Big Deal!

So what's the good deal?

What would you do if you can buy RX-V630 for less than 19k with 1 year warranty and 3 years service warranty support?

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Of course - BUY IT! Tremendous value for the money why else! I am just waiting for this right timing.

I am a proud new owner of Yamaha RX-V630 (bought it yesterday).

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Mo®pHeOu$ on Apr 23, 2003 at 01:41 PM
 ;D ;D ;D

how much kuha mo jofkevski ?

Thanks  ;)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on Apr 23, 2003 at 01:52 PM
...and how much is the orig or yung dating price?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jofkevski on Apr 23, 2003 at 02:12 PM
If you remember RX-V630 started at 30k. In fact, sa park square1, it is still 30k. Then, some stores go for 25k running price (dont know why other stores are not following) - siguro alam nila even at 25k, sa HT enthusiast, Yamaha is still the best buy. Then yesterday, out of curiousity (also playing by the fact that x40 series is about to get its foothold in Manila market), I asked my favorite store. They did tell me the present price of 24.8k but didnt tell me a special price through phone (kasi siguro medyo mababa ng husto) kailangan in person.

And presto, as I said less than 19k.

Additional fact: Based on WWW.Homecinamachoice.com, HK AVR2550 (HK AVR3550 has 5.1 input, slightly higher wattage and EZset compared to AVR2550) is just second to RX-V630. marantz 5200 bested RX-V630 and HK AVR because of music preference (subjective naman itong subject na ito) but for value, even by whathifi and eastwoodhifi standards, rx-v630 is the best all rounder. But at less than 19k, who can go wrong with RX-V630?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: geko on Apr 23, 2003 at 02:48 PM
If you remember RX-V630 started at 30k. In fact, sa park square1, it is still 30k. Then, some stores go for 25k running price (dont know why other stores are not following) - siguro alam nila even at 25k, sa HT enthusiast, Yamaha is still the best buy. Then yesterday, out of curiousity (also playing by the fact that x40 series is about to get its foothold in Manila market), I asked my favorite store. They did tell me the present price of 24.8k but didnt tell me a special price through phone (kasi siguro medyo mababa ng husto) kailangan in person.

And presto, as I said less than 19k.

Additional fact: Based on WWW.Homecinamachoice.com, HK AVR2550 (HK AVR3550 has 5.1 input, slightly higher wattage and EZset compared to AVR2550) is just second to RX-V630. marantz 5200 bested RX-V630 and HK AVR because of music preference (subjective naman itong subject na ito) but for value, even by whathifi and eastwoodhifi standards, rx-v630 is the best all rounder. But at less than 19k, who can go wrong with RX-V630?


wow!  saan?

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: geko on Apr 23, 2003 at 02:51 PM
Why dont u try Denon 1803, Marantz SR5300, Onkyo TX-SR500 or 600..

Nasa price range mo yang mga yan..plus 6.1 na yan.. :)

oki doks.  have these on my list also.  thanks.   :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 23, 2003 at 02:55 PM
If you remember RX-V630 started at 30k. In fact, sa park square1, it is still 30k. Then, some stores go for 25k running price (dont know why other stores are not following) - siguro alam nila even at 25k, sa HT enthusiast, Yamaha is still the best buy. Then yesterday, out of curiousity (also playing by the fact that x40 series is about to get its foothold in Manila market), I asked my favorite store. They did tell me the present price of 24.8k but didnt tell me a special price through phone (kasi siguro medyo mababa ng husto) kailangan in person.

And presto, as I said less than 19k.

Additional fact: Based on WWW.Homecinamachoice.com, HK AVR2550 (HK AVR3550 has 5.1 input, slightly higher wattage and EZset compared to AVR2550) is just second to RX-V630. marantz 5200 bested RX-V630 and HK AVR because of music preference (subjective naman itong subject na ito) but for value, even by whathifi and eastwoodhifi standards, rx-v630 is the best all rounder. But at less than 19k, who can go wrong with RX-V630?


Wow pare goo deal yan..

At isa pa What HiFi awardee ang 630..very nice receiver
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: john5479 on Apr 23, 2003 at 05:45 PM
Yamaha has always been good for ht and with that price for a 630 its a real bargain! the only question is where you can get it at that price hehe. If you're speakers are in the 90dB range in sensitivity then swabeng swabe na yan sa 630 lalo na pag ht ang priority mo. You can always have a separate audio setup just in case di mo magustuhan yun  630 sa music with the money you'll save :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jofkevski on Apr 23, 2003 at 06:17 PM
Tama ka john - that's why I retained my Yamaha Class-A/classB switchable amp for my music pleasures.

I brought my new RX-V630 home yesterday. I asked the guy why they put it on sale (the owner of the store yata) and he said to me, its not them, its Yamaha corp who advise to put it on sale - only the 630. The 530 remains at 17.8k and the 430 at 13.8k. I guess, if this is true, then other dealers of Yamaha should be following the announcement and have it at this price as well.

The store where I bought it is named with initials LR at megamall 3rd floor. For those of you familiar with megamall 3rd floor - you know the store which I am talking about. Take note 1 year parts and 3 years service warranty.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: john5479 on Apr 24, 2003 at 01:38 AM
ah sa listening room , actually they are also the ones selling the marantz 4300 for 15.5k and sila rin nagbebenta ng dynaudios for the cheapest price (relatively speaking hehehe), ok din pala to think that in their branch sa shangri-la malulula ka sa prices ng hi=end products nila.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Dracula on Apr 26, 2003 at 12:36 PM
Yung rxv630 dts-es na ba yun?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on Apr 26, 2003 at 01:52 PM
Yung rxv630 dts-es na ba yun?

Yes. Matrix Only.

(Edited)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: YrNeH on Apr 26, 2003 at 01:57 PM
Yung rxv630 dts-es na ba yun?
dts-es matrix 6.1 lang sya.
rx-v1200 & rx-v1300 ang dts-es discrete

http://www.avland.co.uk/yamaha/rxv630/
http://www.avland.co.uk/yamaha/rxv1300/
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Dracula on Apr 26, 2003 at 03:56 PM
Yung rxv630 dts-es na ba yun?
dts-es matrix 6.1 lang sya.
rx-v1200 & rx-v1300 ang dts-es discrete

http://www.avland.co.uk/yamaha/rxv630/
http://www.avland.co.uk/yamaha/rxv1300/

ok, if matrix pa lang siya hindi ba mas ok yung marantz na 6.1 na ???
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JoP on May 04, 2003 at 10:19 PM
 :o

I just bought my first Yamaha rx-v530 receiver with nsp-230 5.1 speaker, Im very satisfied naman when it comes to movie and music.

Questions (curious lang):

1. Papano ko isesetup yung receiver and speaker ng tama para maging katunog nya yung kagaya sa mga movie theater, like sa Glorieta ?

2. Receiver din ba ang ginagamit sa mga Movie Theaters?

3. Sa mga owner dito ng RX-V530, para saan ba yung 5ch Stereo kung may Prologic II kana?

Share nyo naman ang mga experience using Yamaha receiver.

Thanks for the time reading my message,

JoP 8)

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: diver on May 04, 2003 at 10:35 PM
JoP , just curious ... where did you get your yamaha rx-v530 / nsp-230 set-up ?

Kasi my husband and I were looking at the same thing today and we were really impressed with the sound of this set up :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: obey on May 05, 2003 at 04:30 PM
Is yamaha's matrix 6.1 the same as pioneer's virtual surround back?  Does this mean na yung lumalabas na sound sa rear speakers mo also try to simulate the presence of a rear center speaker?  Thanks!
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on May 07, 2003 at 08:02 AM
:o

I just bought my first Yamaha rx-v530 receiver with nsp-230 5.1 speaker, Im very satisfied naman when it comes to movie and music.

Questions (curious lang):

1. Papano ko isesetup yung receiver and speaker ng tama para maging katunog nya yung kagaya sa mga movie theater, like sa Glorieta ?

2. Receiver din ba ang ginagamit sa mga Movie Theaters?

3. Sa mga owner dito ng RX-V530, para saan ba yung 5ch Stereo kung may Prologic II kana?

Share nyo naman ang mga experience using Yamaha receiver.

Thanks for the time reading my message,

JoP 8)



Pare 5 channel stereo is diff from pro logic 2, the output on 2 channel stero is the same with 5 channel stereo..pagkakaiba lang eh pinatunog din ang center at rear speakers mo. which means the output coming from center and rear speakers is the same with ur main L/R speakers.

DPL2 is more improved pro-logic.. parang nanonood ka nang DVD with dolby digital 5.1 pag nanonood ka nang VHS VCD etc etc..
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on May 07, 2003 at 08:05 AM
Is yamaha's matrix 6.1 the same as pioneer's virtual surround back?  Does this mean na yung lumalabas na sound sa rear speakers mo also try to simulate the presence of a rear center speaker?  Thanks!

Pare try to imagin the prologic days in which nagkakatunog yung center speaker coming from Main L/R..ganun din yung mga Matrix na 6.1 nagkakatunog yung rear center coming from  rear L/R ...
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on May 07, 2003 at 10:23 AM
:o

I just bought my first Yamaha rx-v530 receiver with nsp-230 5.1 speaker, Im very satisfied naman when it comes to movie and music.

Questions (curious lang):

1. Papano ko isesetup yung receiver and speaker ng tama para maging katunog nya yung kagaya sa mga movie theater, like sa Glorieta ?


Read the manual, i think nakalagay dun yung positioning ng speakers, then iset-up mo yung receiver mo, particularly yung delay corresponds sa layo ng center speaker to main speakers to the rear speakers.


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2. Receiver din ba ang ginagamit sa mga Movie Theaters?

It consist of a powerful amplifiers and pre-amplifiers (At least 5 each), a professional equalizers (graphic and parametic), Programmable Multiprocessor, etc.

Title: yamaha rx-v*40 series
Post by: lakambini on May 07, 2003 at 12:32 PM
 :o
yamaha has a new batch of av receivers.  has anyone auditioned them already?  pls. post your reviews, comments....
 ::)
Title: Re:yamaha rx-v*40 series
Post by: Philander on May 07, 2003 at 12:41 PM
More infor here:
http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=1622;start=240

I think wala pang *40 series dito sa Pinas, parating pa lang.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mojako on May 07, 2003 at 11:13 PM
the Yamaha RX-V 530 is on sale sa isang shop sa shang.  13.8k na lang.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on May 08, 2003 at 10:12 AM
the Yamaha RX-V 530 is on sale sa isang shop sa shang.  13.8k na lang.

The black one right? But the gold colour remains at the same price.

Gold 430 is cost also 13.8K.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on May 08, 2003 at 10:15 AM
The black one right? But the gold colour remains at the same price.

Gold 430 is cost also 13.8K.

Grabe laki nang ibinaba nang presyo..i remember dati na dapat papalitan ko agad ang 520 ko nang 530 just because of PL2..nasa 20k+ pa ata yan nun or less
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: obey on May 11, 2003 at 12:23 PM
Where do you set the bass and treble controls of your AVR?  Ako kasi sa zero lang lagi.  

BTW, nirvblakr delivered my 200W (300W max) sub last thursday.  Isa lang ang masasabi ko, ang ganda ng performance be it for HT or music.  Pag HT, ramdam mo talaga ang LFEs ng movie.  Gumagapang sa paligid yung bass niya.  Kapag Music naman, fast and punchy yung bass niya.  Ang kagandahan pa ng sub na ito ay meron siyang volume and bass controls.  Talagang pwede mong i-timpla yung sound based on your room size.    
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: H a n $ on May 11, 2003 at 02:04 PM
Obey,

AVR treble and Bass mine i set it at 12'o clock para natural yun sound and balance yun tone ng front and surround speakers mo

Mel and Anthony's Sub ok na ok yan pre!! swabe bass all the time.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: obey on May 11, 2003 at 03:35 PM
Hans Adriane,

Ok.  12 o'clock is same as zero di ba?  Anyway, ganda nga talaga ng sub nila mel.  Enjoy na enjoy ko HT ko ngayon.  
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: H a n $ on May 11, 2003 at 04:05 PM
Pre yes for some AVR pero kung dial type 12'o clock dapat
Title: Equivalent of Yam in denon
Post by: alfa on May 12, 2003 at 08:41 AM
what's the equivalent ba of the RX-V730 sa Denon na receiver and what is the equivalent naman of the denon 2803 sa Yamaha receivers?
Title: Re:Equivalent of Yam in denon
Post by: dexterc on May 12, 2003 at 08:44 AM
what's the equivalent ba of the RX-V730 sa Denon na receiver and what is the equivalent naman of the denon 2803 sa Yamaha receivers?


I think sa price 730 would be in the same range as 1803 and sr600 of onkyo
Title: Re:Equivalent of Yam in denon
Post by: Courage on May 12, 2003 at 08:49 AM
what's the equivalent ba of the RX-V730 sa Denon na receiver and what is the equivalent naman of the denon 2803 sa Yamaha receivers?

Yung 2803 ata nang denon eh yung RXV 2300 nang yamaha
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: obey on May 14, 2003 at 02:16 AM
Kapag naka DPL2 tapos audio cd ang source ay hindi ba talaga gumagana ang subwoofer output ng AVR? Or baka kailangan lang itimpla yung settings ng sub?  

Pansin ko lang kasi na kapag 5ch stereo gumagana yung sub pero kung DPL2 Music eh hindi gumagana ang sub ko.  

Thanks!  
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on May 14, 2003 at 08:46 AM
Kapag naka DPL2 tapos audio cd ang source ay hindi ba talaga gumagana ang subwoofer output ng AVR? Or baka kailangan lang itimpla yung settings ng sub?  

Pansin ko lang kasi na kapag 5ch stereo gumagana yung sub pero kung DPL2 Music eh hindi gumagana ang sub ko.  

Thanks!  

Check ur speaker settings baka naka set sa large, set mo sa small.

I remember i have the same problem with my RXV520 though hindi DPL2. kapag naka DPL ako superhina nang sub, when i checked my setting sa speaker naka large pala ang center ko, when i put it to small..boommmm ayun lumabas ang tunog nang sub.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Audioboy on May 14, 2003 at 01:35 PM
Kapag naka DPL2 tapos audio cd ang source ay hindi ba talaga gumagana ang subwoofer output ng AVR? Or baka kailangan lang itimpla yung settings ng sub?  

Pansin ko lang kasi na kapag 5ch stereo gumagana yung sub pero kung DPL2 Music eh hindi gumagana ang sub ko.  

Thanks!  

settings sa receiver lang yan. try to make the settings of your front speakers as small. kung wala parin, adjust the db volume of your sub in the receiver.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: obey on May 15, 2003 at 01:02 AM
Courage and Julsp168,

Thanks for the suggestions!  Tried setting the front and center speakers to small and lumabas nga yung tunog sa sub sa DPL2.  Problema nga lang eh naging manipis yung tunog galing sa front and center.  So binalik ko sa large yung front and center tapos set ko yung 1D BASS sa BOTH instead of sub only.  Ayun, gumagana rin yung sub kahit sa DPL2.  
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on May 15, 2003 at 08:22 AM
The only problem with yamaha eh fix yung LFE na sa 90hz
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: obey on May 15, 2003 at 09:16 AM
Courage,

Ano bang advantage kung adjustable ang LFE cut-off?  
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on May 15, 2003 at 09:23 AM
Courage,

Ano bang advantage kung adjustable ang LFE cut-off?  

Well mas mamamanage mo ang bass output sa sub mo and sa speakers mo, kesa sa fix yung cutoff...

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: alfa on May 20, 2003 at 11:18 PM
Boys anyone interested...i'm selling my brand new Yamaha receiver RXV-740. DEtails in the buy and sell area or PM me.  
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: DVDAdik on May 20, 2003 at 11:30 PM
why you're selling this?  
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: alfa on May 21, 2003 at 12:46 AM
I bought this for myself sa trip namin sa US last May. Pag uwi ko my wife gave me another one pala as a gift, pero nasa door to door pa.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on May 22, 2003 at 09:56 AM
Yung naka RXV1300, nabasa ko kasi sa na download kong manual na 96khz lang ang DAC nito, akala ko sa website nang yamaha at dun sa catalog ko eh 192 ang DAC nito? pls confirm
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Mondy on May 22, 2003 at 06:50 PM
Yung naka RXV1300, nabasa ko kasi sa na download kong manual na 96khz lang ang DAC nito, akala ko sa website nang yamaha at dun sa catalog ko eh 192 ang DAC nito? pls confirm

Hi Courage,

  After reading wat u have just posted... I've re-check my RXV-1300 (just bought it last month @ LR) on the fron panel sticker it stated 192khz DAC but on my actual manual it 96khz DAC... maybe newer batch are 192khz DAC na and the 96khz are the older batch.   :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sgc_wdi on May 23, 2003 at 11:46 AM
Yung naka RXV1300, nabasa ko kasi sa na download kong manual na 96khz lang ang DAC nito, akala ko sa website nang yamaha at dun sa catalog ko eh 192 ang DAC nito? pls confirm

bro, anong manual dinownload mo, yung manual brochure ng RXV1300 na na download ko naka indicate naman na 192khz ang DAC niya... and I think yung sticker sa front panel 192khz din nakasulat... :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on May 23, 2003 at 12:12 PM
bro, anong manual dinownload mo, yung manual brochure ng RXV1300 na na download ko naka indicate naman na 192khz ang DAC niya... and I think yung sticker sa front panel 192khz din nakasulat... :)

Its the users manual of the RXV1300 downloaded at Yamaha website, sa manual mo ba eh 192 ang nakasulat?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: don on May 28, 2003 at 02:57 PM
Yammie owners,

What is your Dynamic Range Setting? (MID, STD, or MAX)

I've always configured the amp to STD (standard), but when I tried the MAX setting... I was blown away. It seems that when the amp is on STD mode, the amp limits the volume to a certain level. The improvement is very noticeable during "loud scenes" like, the Ohama beach scene in SPR.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on May 28, 2003 at 03:05 PM
Yammie owners,

What is your Dynamic Range Setting? (MID, STD, or MAX)

I've always configured the amp to STD (standard), but when I tried the MAX setting... I was blown away. It seems that when the amp is on STD mode, the amp limits the volume to a certain level. The improvement is very noticeable during "loud scenes" like, the Ohama beach scene in SPR.

Pare nung naka 520 pa ako eh lagi akong naka MAX, dati STD, hindi ko alam pag nag naka MAX pala eh boommmmmmmm, sa ibang AVR baligtad
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dexterc on May 28, 2003 at 03:06 PM
Yammie owners,

What is your Dynamic Range Setting? (MID, STD, or MAX)

I've always configured the amp to STD (standard), but when I tried the MAX setting... I was blown away. It seems that when the amp is on STD mode, the amp limits the volume to a certain level. The improvement is very noticeable during "loud scenes" like, the Ohama beach scene in SPR.


Ok i will try that tonight..thanks for the tip don
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on May 28, 2003 at 03:07 PM
Hi Courage,

  After reading wat u have just posted... I've re-check my RXV-1300 (just bought it last month @ LR) on the fron panel sticker it stated 192khz DAC but on my actual manual it 96khz DAC... maybe newer batch are 192khz DAC na and the 96khz are the older batch.   :)

Mondy,

Naka indicate sa manual mo eh 96 right? so tama yung manual na na download ko, pero bakit yung kay sgc_wdi eh 192kh, may ibang release pa ba nang RXV1300?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on May 28, 2003 at 03:25 PM
Just a suggestion, forget about the manual and some online specs, it might be a mistake and misleading.

Why dont you try. Purchase a DVD audio player and a DVD-Audio Disc encoded with 24-bit/192khz. Then viola! Expensive though.  ;)  ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: don on May 28, 2003 at 03:28 PM
Courage,

Yup, iba talaga when your in MAX mode. The manual says that the MAX setting is for feature films. Indeed it is ;D

dexterc,

I had this feeling na "bitin" during explosive scenes dati. But now that it's on MAX, parang bago speakers and amp ko. hehehe  ;)

No problem! let me know what you think sa improvement  ng sounds mo ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dexterc on May 28, 2003 at 05:26 PM
I guess the Matrix Lobby scene would give it a test and blade 2 he!!he!!
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: htboy on May 28, 2003 at 08:03 PM
Comments naman on RXV-530.

Am planning to buy this kasi sa listening in style
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Mondy on May 29, 2003 at 12:23 AM
Mondy,

Naka indicate sa manual mo eh 96 right? so tama yung manual na na download ko, pero bakit yung kay sgc_wdi eh 192kh, may ibang release pa ba nang RXV1300?

I called up LR and ask about this, they said those w/ front panel sticker are newer batch are the 192khz dac.  
Title: Yamaha Receivers DSPA1
Post by: alfa on May 29, 2003 at 12:44 AM
To the buyer of the RXV-530 u might want to wait for the RXV-540
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JoP on May 29, 2003 at 05:14 AM
htboy
 ;D
Quote
Comments naman on RXV-530.

Am planning to buy this kasi sa listening in style

OK yan, ang ganda ng tunog.


Alfa
Quote
To the buyer of the RXV-530 u might want to wait for the RXV-540

Ano ba pinagkaiba ng 530 sa 540?  ???

Thanks
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on May 29, 2003 at 08:14 AM
htboy
 ;DOK yan, ang ganda ng tunog.


AlfaAno ba pinagkaiba ng 530 sa 540?  ???

Thanks

The RXV540 is already 6.1 with DD EX and DTS ES.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: don on May 29, 2003 at 11:01 AM
I agree, better wait for the 40 series.  ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: alfa on May 29, 2003 at 12:55 PM
Yup that 6.1 amp makes a lot of difference specially when the DTS-ES discs start coming out .

If i'm not mistaken may DTS-ES yung 540 the 530 has DTS only. ANyone please correct me if i'm wrong.

Pero note that 530 and 540 have no onscreen didsplay and wala yatang preouts (except for the sub)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on May 29, 2003 at 01:30 PM
Yup that 6.1 amp makes a lot of difference specially when the DTS-ES discs start coming out .

If i'm not mistaken may DTS-ES yung 540 the 530 has DTS only. ANyone please correct me if i'm wrong.

Pero note that 530 and 540 have no onscreen didsplay and wala yatang preouts (except for the sub)

Yup simula 440 hanggang 740 nang Yammy eh naka DTS ES at DD EX..lahat sila eh 6.1
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sgc_wdi on May 29, 2003 at 04:39 PM
courage, am talking about the online brochure, not necessarily the manual, have not checked my manual yet, pero sa online brochure, and sa Yammy front panel sticker 192khz nakalagay...
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on May 29, 2003 at 04:42 PM
courage, am talking about the online brochure, not necessarily the manual, have not checked my manual yet, pero sa online brochure, and sa Yammy front panel sticker 192khz nakalagay...

Nakalagay nga sa Brochure eh 192kh pati sa website, pero sa manual eh hindi 192, check ur manual.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sgc_wdi on May 30, 2003 at 11:56 AM
ok will check my manual, but that's probably a typo, since medyo pareho specs ng 1200 sa 1300, minsan same manuals din ginagamit...

I don't think maglalagay sila sa mga online websites, brochures, and reviews na 192khz ang 1300 (may stickers pa sa front panel) kung 96khz lang siya, kasi mabubuhusan sila mga legal issues ng mga bumili ;D
Title: Re:yamaha rx-v*40 series
Post by: alfa on Jun 01, 2003 at 11:32 PM
Anyone interested i'm selling my RXV-740 receiver (US Version 110V)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: redtangent on Jun 03, 2003 at 10:21 PM
alfa how much? what are the specs?
why not get the RXV-630 instead?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wolf on Jun 04, 2003 at 03:24 PM
Anyone knows when lalabas yun *40 ng yamaha?

Am very curious kasi why Yamaha and HK drives Wharfs better than Denon.

Parang bitin kasi yun HK sa features lang.

Worth the wait ba ang yamaha?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wolf on Jun 04, 2003 at 09:14 PM
Parang gusto ko na rin sa yamaha 630 with all the negative reports of denon+wharfs.

What do you think og 630 diba DTS ES and EX na rin siya. 6.1 PA
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: redtangent on Jun 04, 2003 at 10:19 PM
oo nga sabi ko na nga sa features palang medyo bitin e.. kasi baka naman ok yung 630 i have to hear it pa din.. sana naman kasi mas mura sa HK hehehe
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Jun 05, 2003 at 12:44 PM
Actually  hindi naman pangit ang Wharfs and Denon combi, its just some members here dont like the sound pag tumutunog na pero not all, i believe meron ditong members na wharfs and denon ang setup nila and they like how it sounds. its a matter of personal taste, i suggest u audition the two before judging it, may kanya kanya kasi tayong pandinig..like what i said before, what may sound bad to me might sound good you, dont stop buying an equipment just because some people says they sound bad...audition it and listen to it..then let ur ears decide.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Jun 05, 2003 at 12:48 PM
Anyone knows when lalabas yun *40 ng yamaha?

Am very curious kasi why Yamaha and HK drives Wharfs better than Denon.

Parang bitin kasi yun HK sa features lang.

Worth the wait ba ang yamaha?

If ur planning to buy a Yammy, i agree antayin mo ang *40 series, its already true 6.1 unlike the *30 series nang yamaha, matrix lang yung 6.1 nya at hindi discrete. :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jofkevski on Jun 05, 2003 at 01:07 PM
I do not know how you justify your spending.

The 640 may come in, as usual, in the range of about 30k sa price, with 85watts per channel and the ES compatibility (na kakapiranggot lang na software avbl)

I bought my 630 for 19k, with 75watts per channel.

with feature difference of almost none in practical terms, the price difference is 11k.

Unless of course you want to wait for the 650, na by that time baka i-sale din ang 640 for 19k.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: octaver11 on Jun 05, 2003 at 01:53 PM
Alfa,

How much do you want to sell your RX-V740?

octaver11
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: redtangent on Jun 05, 2003 at 02:11 PM
teka ha... what does it mean ba that the 630 is..
dolby digital EX --- discrete 6th channel diba?

pero it says DTS ES "Compatible" what does this mean? matrixed lang yung sa DTS pero yung DD EX e Discrete? im lost

well i think we never get satisfied.. parang computer upgrades yan e.. you wait.. pag dumating na.. mahal masyado pag.. nag mura may gusto ka nang iba.. i think the best is to get the best that sounds good for you and well fits your budget.

640 is Dolby Digital EX, Dolby Pro Logic II, DTS-ES Discrete 6.1, and DTS Neo:6  so discrete lahat..
DTS Neo:6 is an advanced matrix decoder. It will take any two-channel source and expand it into five or six channels, depending on the user’s speaker layout. Two-channel sources include VHS tapes, broadcast television, stereo CDs and DVDs. DTS Neo:6 provides separate, optimized modes for stereo music materials and matrix surround motion picture soundtracks. DTS Neo:6 also decodes a center-surround channel from Extended Surrond matrix soundtracks.  *from dts site*

so matrixed din
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Jun 05, 2003 at 02:18 PM
teka ha... what does it mean ba that the 630 is..
dolby digital EX --- discrete 6th channel diba?

pero it says DTS ES "Compatible" what does this mean? matrixed lang yung sa DTS pero yung DD EX e Discrete? im lost

well i think we never get satisfied.. parang computer upgrades yan e.. you wait.. pag dumating na.. mahal masyado pag.. nag mura may gusto ka nang iba.. i think the best is to get the best that sounds good for you and well fits your budget.

640 is Dolby Digital EX, Dolby Pro Logic II, DTS-ES Discrete 6.1, and DTS Neo:6  so discrete lahat..
DTS Neo:6 is an advanced matrix decoder. It will take any two-channel source and expand it into five or six channels, depending on the user’s speaker layout. Two-channel sources include VHS tapes, broadcast television, stereo CDs and DVDs. DTS Neo:6 provides separate, optimized modes for stereo music materials and matrix surround motion picture soundtracks. DTS Neo:6 also decodes a center-surround channel from Extended Surrond matrix soundtracks.  *from dts site*

so matrixed din
\

DTS ES compatible is Different from DTS ES Discrete 6.1
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: don on Jun 05, 2003 at 05:35 PM
redtangent,

Dolby Digital EX uses 6.1 matrix decoding. So it's not discrete. The DD EX of 630 and 640 is just the same.
(Dolby Digital, doesn't have 6.1 discrete).

640 has DTS-ES 6.1 discrete. While the 630 only have DTS-ES 6.1 matrix.

6.1 discrete means, the rear-center channel has a seperate track included in the dvd audio track (7 channels all in all.

Hope this helps,

Don


Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers + Mission Speakers Combo
Post by: don on Jun 05, 2003 at 05:45 PM
guys,

Just want to ask your usual volume levels. Mine is -30db (80 db on my SPL meter), But I'm thinking of pushing it down to -20db on the amp volume meter. (i'm using a rxv1200 + mission 70i series).

Are there any formulas that we can use to compute for the maximum volume level that our components can handle? (amp + speaker combo).

It would be very helpful so that we don't damage our speakers, by turning up the volume to levels that can hurt our toys.

Thanks very much.

Don
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: pukx on Jun 06, 2003 at 11:42 AM
mga guapings & yamies expert,

  tanong ko lang kung available na ba d2 sa pinas yung rxv1300 or rxv640 & 740, how much kaya d2 yun...? para makapagsimula na mag-ipon heheh... ;D

pukx 8)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Jun 06, 2003 at 12:53 PM
mga guapings & yamies expert,

  tanong ko lang kung available na ba d2 sa pinas yung rxv1300 or rxv640 & 740, how much kaya d2 yun...? para makapagsimula na mag-ipon heheh... ;D

pukx 8)

The RXV1300 is about 34k at listening in style at Festival Mall, while hindi pa available dito yung *40 series nang yamaha.

Ill go with the 1300
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: pukx on Jun 06, 2003 at 03:42 PM
tnkx, sir courage.... :) medyo mahaba-haba pa palang ipunan 'to heheh ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Jun 06, 2003 at 04:09 PM
tnkx, sir courage.... :) medyo mahaba-haba pa palang ipunan 'to heheh ;D

ehehehee happy hunting ;D
Title: Looking for Yamaha Service Center
Post by: alfa on Jun 17, 2003 at 07:37 AM
Does anyone here know the name address and number of the Yamaha Receiver (offficial, authorized or exclusive) service center here in the Phils? My Yammy stereo receiver conked out.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ADM202E on Jun 17, 2003 at 09:37 PM
Guys, rxv-430 (gold) and rxv-530 (black) all are 13.8k at listening in style festival mall!!! I've reviewed the pdf manual and iy seems it is very competitive to kenwood KRF-v6060d and other onkyo/denon entry receivers?!?! Could someone pls confirm my opinion??

And also, I saw this kenwood 5 setup (706KHS model) speaker (100watts/8ohms) at Abenson Alabang with price tag P7.5k. I've auditioned the speaker and its good even without subs. Does anyone thought of this?

Pahabol: Meron ba sa inyong may pioneer S-H310V-QL and S-CR32-QL speakers? Ganda kasi ng sound if paired with YAMAHA an Kenwood receivers. This one goes at ~14K.

Pls advise mga HT gurus.

Thanks!!!!!
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: levi on Jun 18, 2003 at 01:00 AM
Try using the Yamaha with other speakers. Just my 1 cent
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mdsaint3 on Jun 18, 2003 at 02:24 PM
yamaha and wharfs pair up well...
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mdsaint3 on Jun 18, 2003 at 02:27 PM
check also hometheaterph.com they have pre owned goods there..saw some denons being sold cheap :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: lazeeb0y on Jun 19, 2003 at 01:49 AM
or try a yamaha and polk combination...
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ADM202E on Jun 22, 2003 at 07:10 PM
yamaha and wharfs pair up well...

how about yamaha530+wh-2+8.1+dq12 or
yamaha530+2 sets of 8.1+dq12? Ok na ba ito for music and movies?

I've auditioned an atlantic 500, wow it does kick ass at 14k value.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Jun 22, 2003 at 11:19 PM
how about yamaha530+wh-2+8.1+dq12 or
yamaha530+2 sets of 8.1+dq12? Ok na ba ito for music and movies?

I've auditioned an atlantic 500, wow it does kick ass at 14k value.

joms

suggestion is go for the 630 or 730 since your planning to use diamond 8.1's medyo hirap yung 530's sa Diamonds.  suggest you try to read the threads on Diamonds.  Doon ko nakuha yung ideas for my setup. Initially i was planning to get the 530s' with wharfs (8.3, 8.4, 8, dq12).  i've seen alot of threads suggesting to go for higher wattage receivers (denons, hks, nads, onkyo).
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Jun 22, 2003 at 11:28 PM
oops, reply pala para sa posting ni jon9412833. sorry
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ADM202E on Jun 23, 2003 at 08:05 PM
:o

I just bought my first Yamaha rx-v530 receiver with nsp-230 5.1 speaker, Im very satisfied naman when it comes to movie and music.

Questions (curious lang):

1. Papano ko isesetup yung receiver and speaker ng tama para maging katunog nya yung kagaya sa mga movie theater, like sa Glorieta ?

2. Receiver din ba ang ginagamit sa mga Movie Theaters?

3. Sa mga owner dito ng RX-V530, para saan ba yung 5ch Stereo kung may Prologic II kana?

Share nyo naman ang mga experience using Yamaha receiver.

Thanks for the time reading my message,

JoP 8)




Pards musta na yang setup mo? How do you find it? Ok ba? I've auditioned this once sa festival mall, and it sounds good.

Sa may rxv530 +nsp230, share nyo naman ang reviews nyo.

Thanks! :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: [joms] on Jun 23, 2003 at 08:55 PM
whats the difference between a yamaha 740 and a 1300? also, are those made from the USA that much different than those which can be bought here in the Philippines?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: alfa on Jul 10, 2003 at 11:43 PM
where can i get the cheapest RX-V630 in Manila? (brand new of course)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on Jul 10, 2003 at 11:46 PM
where can i get the cheapest RX-V630 in Manila? (brand new of course)

Try at Listening Room or Spectra or Sound Dimension.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ADM202E on Jul 12, 2003 at 10:19 AM
Does anybody knows kung available na sa local market ang Yamaha 440/540? The features of both are far better than 430/530. How about the prices?

Brief info about rxv540:

Digital ToP-ART
Digital ToP-ART (Total
Purity Audio
Reproduction
Technology) is the
name Yamaha has given to a design
philosophy whose goal is to maximize
digital quality while minimizing analog
circuitry. The culmination of the best
digital engineering and design possible
today, it brings together several key
elements to create the best-sounding,
easiest-to-use A/V components available
Advanced Decoding Circuitry
Including Yamaha’s Exclusive
YSS-938 32-Bit Floating Point
Quantization LSI
The decoding
circuitry performs
Dolby Pro Logic II,
Dolby Digital,
Dolby Digital EX,
DTS Digital
Surround, DTS-ES
(DTS-ES Matrix 6.1
and DTS-ES
Discrete 6.1), and
DTS Neo:6 decoding with extreme
accuracy, as well as all digital sound field
processing. It also outperforms other
systems in the precise synchronization of
images and sound. Its low 3V power
consumption minimizes digital noise.
96kHz/24-Bit DACs for All Channels
The RX-V540’s vitally important digital-toanalog
converters use an extremely
96kHz/24-bit high performance. They
perform accurate sound field
reproduction for high quality multichannel
sources, and for two-channel
stereo, provide outstanding separation
and precise musical delineation. They
deliver superior low level linearity with
excellent full-scale performance under
varying operation conditions.
4-Layer DSP Processing Board
All of the DSP IC chips and related
circuitry are located together on a 4-layer
board. This is the first time a 4-layer
board has been used, and it provides a
number of advantages. The dimensions
are smaller (2/3 previous types), so signal
paths are shorter and there is more
Yamaha’s Exclusive
YSS-938 32-Bit Floating
Point Quantization LSI
* High power 6-channel discrete
amplifier configuration (100W x 6
Max)
*Digital ToP-ART (Total Purity
Audio Reproduction Technology)
n High Current Amplification for
high sound quality
* Easy setup and operation
*Compatibility with latest movie
sound formats including Dolby
Digital EX, Dolby Pro Logic II,
DTS-ES Discrete 6.1, and DTS
Neo:6
*Powerful 32-bit Yamaha LSI
(YSS-938) for CINEMA DSP
processing
*24 surround programs (44
variations) with SILENT CINEMA
and Night Listening mode
*Front panel Video Aux input
terminals
* Speaker A, B, or A+B Selection
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Jul 18, 2003 at 02:07 PM
Site to see features & download manuals for yammy lovers:

http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/index.html



Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ADM202E on Jul 21, 2003 at 11:12 AM
To yamaha 430/530 owners, madali bang maginit ang receivers nyo? What tolerable temp or environment kaya pwede ito? Ok lang ba ipatong yung dvd player above ng receiver (due to the fact the heat dissipation of yamaha are above the unit, while the player dissipates at the back of the unit)? Pls advise. Matsalam.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on Jul 21, 2003 at 11:19 AM
....... Ok lang ba ipatong yung dvd player above ng receiver (due to the fact the heat dissipation of yamaha are above the unit, while the player dissipates at the back of the unit)? Pls advise. Matsalam.

No, don't do that. Never.

Dyan nagsimulang magloko yung DVD Player ko, minsan after about 5 hours of using my receiver, grabe mag-init pag walang good ventilation,  parang plantsa.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ADM202E on Jul 21, 2003 at 11:23 AM
No, don't do that. Never.

Dyan nagsimulang magloko yung DVD Player ko, minsan after about 5 hours of using my receiver, grabe mag-init pag walang good ventilation,  parang plantsa.

Dude thanks for the immediate warning, same thing happens yesterday to me, pero di pa naman nagloloko ang player hopefully. Kase-setup ko lang kasi kahapon. Yayks tatawagan ko na tatay ko baka magpatugtog sya.

Matsalam pre.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: don on Jul 22, 2003 at 04:58 PM
Any Idea how loud our Yammy can go?

I'm using a 1200 with Mission 70i series, and my current setting is  -28 db for a Dolby Digital track....  (72 db on a SPL) ... The problem is,  I'm not so happy with the dialog... When I increase the level to -23 db I now get a satisfying dialog. But when action packed scenes come out, it is way too loud... (which i feel its not safe for my speakers) sigh....

What is your volume setting?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Jul 25, 2003 at 12:10 AM
where can i get the cheapest RX-V630 in Manila? (brand new of course)

went to listening room the other day.  rx-v630 is around 17k plus
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gutierrez on Jul 29, 2003 at 02:19 AM
Which one is better, 540 or the 630?

I'm a newbie so can anyone tell me the difference and the adv and disadv of each, thanks.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: shine on Jul 29, 2003 at 03:06 AM
kung sa features, sa tingin ko mas marami ang 540. paraeho lang silang 6.1 at mas lamang lang nang 5watts ang 630 at di naman pansin yun. Matrix:6.1 at DTS Neo:6 ang 540. May award winning naman ang 630. Almost same ang dalawa, maliban na lang siguro sa presyo, I think magiging mas mura ang 630.

kung ako papipiliin sa dalawa...630 siguro ako.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gutierrez on Jul 29, 2003 at 03:13 AM
kung sa features, sa tingin ko mas marami ang 540. paraeho lang silang 6.1 at mas lamang lang nang 5watts ang 630 at di naman pansin yun. Matrix:6.1 at DTS Neo:6 ang 540. May award winning naman ang 630. Almost same ang dalawa, maliban na lang siguro sa presyo, I think magiging mas mura ang 630.

kung ako papipiliin sa dalawa...630 siguro ako.

magkano ba yung 630, where can I buy the cheapest?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: shine on Jul 29, 2003 at 03:20 AM
sabi ni kimpao sa taas nitong thread na ito P17k+ daw. balak ko ring mag-upgrade into 630 tapos tigil na, kailangan nang makuntento, magastos eh. try mo pumasyal sa ambassador shang, one of the cheapest sila sa yamaha.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gutierrez on Jul 29, 2003 at 03:29 AM
sabi ni kimpao sa taas nitong thread na ito P17k+ daw. balak ko ring mag-upgrade into 630 tapos tigil na, kailangan nang makuntento, magastos eh. try mo pumasyal sa ambassador shang, one of the cheapest sila sa yamaha.

thanks for the reply  :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: stradale on Jul 29, 2003 at 07:12 AM
Any Idea how loud our Yammy can go?

I'm using a 1200 with Mission 70i series, and my current setting is  -28 db for a Dolby Digital track....  (72 db on a SPL) ... The problem is,  I'm not so happy with the dialog... When I increase the level to -23 db I now get a satisfying dialog. But when action packed scenes come out, it is way too loud... (which i feel its not safe for my speakers) sigh....

What is your volume setting?

Hi don,

I also use the 1200 and -28 is way too loud in my room. Normal setting ko is -40 and this goes up to -35 if I want it loud. Regarding the dialogue, have you tried increasing the volume of your center channel which you can do independently to the rest of your speakers? :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: positive_noise on Aug 04, 2003 at 08:48 AM
Mga Bro,

Available na ba dito sa Pinas ang 740? ??? If yes, magkano?

Thanks,
positive_noise.  ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: t_s_o_n_g on Aug 04, 2003 at 09:14 AM
Please include 640 din kung available na dito.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ADM202E on Aug 04, 2003 at 10:58 AM
Do also include 440 and 540 for entry level. Thanks.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: don on Aug 04, 2003 at 12:53 PM
Hi don,

I also use the 1200 and -28 is way too loud in my room. Normal setting ko is -40 and this goes up to -35 if I want it loud. Regarding the dialogue, have you tried increasing the volume of your center channel which you can do independently to the rest of your speakers? :)

After some tweaking, I was able to get a more satisfying center level around -27 to -25 (75 db up on SPL meter).  I tried increaing the center channel alone, but I prefer all the channels to be equally balanced. I just reduced the volume of the subwoofer so that I can turn the main volume control higher.

Thanks bro! Btw,  what speakers are you using are they rated at 8 ohms too?
 
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ADM202E on Aug 04, 2003 at 02:50 PM
After some tweaking, I was able to get a more satisfying center level around -27 to -25 (75 db up on SPL meter).  I tried increaing the center channel alone, but I prefer all the channels to be equally balanced. I just reduced the volume of the subwoofer so that I can turn the main volume control higher.

Thanks bro! Btw,  what speakers are you using are they rated at 8 ohms too?
 

Wow, isnt -25 to -27dB way too loud, maybe malaki ang floor area mo dude, as for me (rxv430+wharfedale+dq12), mine so far can go as far as -32dB, havent tried getting over this range.

One question: gano kaya kalakas or maximum range ng yamaha receivers nyo?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: shine on Aug 04, 2003 at 10:27 PM
my 430 can go up to -15db, yun na ang pinakamalakas na naabot niya. Im using yamaha NS1000M as my front and Wharf 8.4 as sorround. Sa living room nakalagay kaya malakas.
Title: Re:Yamaha - New Receivers RXV-730,630,530 & 430
Post by: johnlen on Aug 05, 2003 at 04:53 PM
Hi guys,

Good day!!


Would you suggest their NS-7390 speaker to be used as a sorround? BTW, I'm using a vintage NS-1000M series as my main.

The NS1000M is a legendary speaker being sought worldwide because of its beautiful natural sound (so I've read)! Take good care of those pair. You have a treasure in your possession.  
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: shine on Aug 06, 2003 at 02:18 AM
muntik ko na ngang naipagbili last month, buti na lang nakapagbasa agad ako nang review nito.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: johnlen on Aug 06, 2003 at 09:41 AM
muntik ko na ngang naipagbili last month, buti na lang nakapagbasa agad ako nang review nito.

It was a good decision not to sell it. In my case I have the Yamaha MX-1 (200 watts per channel into 8 ohms high current power amplifier) driving my Wharfedale 8.4 fronts.

My receiver now acts a preamp/processor. Yamaha MX-1 has been out of production may years ago and has also become legendary as your 1000M's.

The MX-1 could easily beat hands down the more esoteric and definitely over expensive power amps in the market. MX-1 could muster enough power of up to 1000w into 1ohm load, this is how much reserve power it has, other well known high-end amp would choke at this load. Audipophiles would hate to admit this as they tend to frown upon Japanese products, sadly for them as they do not know what they are missing!  
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: akyatbundok on Aug 06, 2003 at 12:14 PM
i agree johnlen, im a big fan of japanese audio.  i lived there for 3yrs and i couldnt believe the stuff i saw there.  brochures for all kinds of products (cars, electronics, yes even callgirls haha) are freely available everywhere, and i would see amps from accuphase and luxman having 1kVA toroidal power supplies.  even the brands known for mass-produced products like yamaha, pioneer, sony, etc. have reference models that would make expensive brands look wimpish.  you'll be surprised to see sony or pioneer producing speakers worth 1M.  if you look at the .co.jp website of any of these brands you will see models that aren't available anywhere else.  with the NS1000 speaker, yamaha went all out and showed everybody what they can do.  beryllium tweeters & mids?!?  just for comparison, the flagship grand utopia of jmlabs/focal that utilizes a beryllium tweeter costs $80,000.  sabi nga nila, the NS1000 is one of the best kept secrets in audio history.  dont sell it bro, this one's for life.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jofkevski on Aug 06, 2003 at 06:24 PM
inggit naman ako kay john len.

was able to get me the NEC A-10II - pero this is 60wpc driving my 8.3. But this amp is dual mono in a single case, huge transformer each (at 27kg total weight).

I am using this as my music amp driven by my 630 as pre/pro connected to MAIN in of the NEC.

Hinahanapan ko nga ng gaspang sa sound kahit ilakas ko nang husto - pero di ko alam bakit iba ang kinis ng tunog niya compared with my 630 - might be the extension of the power supply. I opened it up and noted that all potentiometer (the volume/bass/treble control) are all closed type (meaning, hindi madapuan ng dumi nor open to possible corroding agents like air and moisture).

My listening position sa volume is only about 8 to 9 oclock setting. putting it beyond 12 oclock seems to explode my speaker na.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: johnlen on Aug 07, 2003 at 08:35 AM
inggit naman ako kay john len.

was able to get me the NEC A-10II - pero this is 60wpc driving my 8.3. But this amp is dual mono in a single case, huge transformer each (at 27kg total weight).

I am using this as my music amp driven by my 630 as pre/pro connected to MAIN in of the NEC.

Hinahanapan ko nga ng gaspang sa sound kahit ilakas ko nang husto - pero di ko alam bakit iba ang kinis ng tunog niya compared with my 630 - might be the extension of the power supply. I opened it up and noted that all potentiometer (the volume/bass/treble control) are all closed type (meaning, hindi madapuan ng dumi nor open to possible corroding agents like air and moisture).

My listening position sa volume is only about 8 to 9 oclock setting. putting it beyond 12 oclock seems to explode my speaker na.

Hi jofkevski!

You seem to have a nice piece of equipment there also. My MX-1 by the way is also dual mono in single chasis with separate power transformer for each amp. I think this power amp was built somewhere in the late 80's or mid 90's and those owning the present time Yammy HT receivers might be surprised to know that the MX-1 employs the TopArt design - yes this technology has been with Yamaha for that long!

Like your NEC A-10II, Yamaha also used the finest ingredients for their MX-1 recipe hence, the resulting sound turned out to be sweet and delicious (for the ears)!

We who own decent power amps do not have the wattage or loudness as problem, what we have to look out for and be careful with is handling capacity of our speakers. We must take good reign over the volume control or else the speakers will literary blow into pieces.

On the other hand and on a positive note, reserve power is the only way to hear and even feel music dynamics to the fullest where soft music is played as soft while the power monster inside the amp eagerly waits for loud musical passages and plays it as it is - and that is as loud as the music calls for without distortion and clipping.

By the way, the MX-1 is pure Class A and its damping factor is more than 350 at 8 Ohms so you could imagine how tight the bass could be. THD is a whooping .008% at 20-20,000Hz in 8 Ohms, 200Wpc.      

Cheers!
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 07, 2003 at 09:02 AM
I wanna buy a yamaha avr paired with wharfs but I'm on a tight budget, is it okay if I'll get na lang the 430 or go for 630 na?

Is there much difference between the 430 and the 630 model?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: alfa on Aug 07, 2003 at 09:20 AM
In terms of power its just the same. The only diff i think is that the 430 is a 5 channel while the 630 is a 6 channel receiver.
Also the 430 has no pre-outs while the 630 has pre-outs.
Check this link for more comparison
http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/compare/recvr_9.htm (http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/compare/recvr_9.htm)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 07, 2003 at 09:42 AM
In terms of power its just the same. The only diff i think is that the 430 is a 5 channel while the 630 is a 6 channel receiver.
Also the 430 has no pre-outs while the 630 has pre-outs.
Check this link for more comparison
http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/compare/recvr_9.htm (http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/compare/recvr_9.htm)

san ba ginagamit yung preouts
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Aug 07, 2003 at 10:39 AM
san ba ginagamit yung preouts

Pag gusto mo palakasi pa ang setup mo, u can use the preouts by buying a power amp and connecting it to the preout of the receiver, ull not be using ur receiver to power ur speakers, yung amp na kinabit mo sa receiver ang magpopower ngayon sa speakers mo....
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 07, 2003 at 11:30 AM
Pag gusto mo palakasi pa ang setup mo, u can use the preouts by buying a power amp and connecting it to the preout of the receiver, ull not be using ur receiver to power ur speakers, yung amp na kinabit mo sa receiver ang magpopower ngayon sa speakers mo....

di ba meron ka 430 dati, ok ba sya matched with whaferdale?

Madami ba difference between 430 and 630?

Medyo taghirap kasi ako ngayon ok na ba to go with 430 or go for 630 na lang ako?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kenchix1 on Aug 07, 2003 at 12:19 PM
Mejo nalilito lang ako kasi, yung 430 meron DTS ang 595 wala, while ang 530 meron din DTS-ES. Paano ba sequence ng model number ng yamaha receivers ? Please enlighten me. Thanks. :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: alfa on Aug 07, 2003 at 12:57 PM
Quote
Posted by: kenchix1  Posted on: Today at 12:19:30pm  
Mejo nalilito lang ako kasi, yung 430 meron DTS ang 595 wala, while ang 530 meron din DTS-ES. Paano ba sequence ng model number ng yamaha receivers ? Please enlighten me. Thanks.  

Dont really know when the 595 came out pero pag RX-Vx series the latest sa Philippines is the x30 model. The x40 came after it and in fact is already out in the US. The x40 series will surely come out in the Phils as well, question is when and at how much. Bear in mind that the x30 stocks here were probably bought by the distrubutor when the dollar was in the P49 to P51 range. Now its P53+.

So if the new featiures arent as important to you baka you're better off with a x30 series.

Gutierrez,

If budget will not permit get the 430 series dahil power will be the same (at least per Yammy specs). But if you're after the bells and whistles go after the 630 or better yet wait for the new x40 series.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jofkevski on Aug 07, 2003 at 01:10 PM
Mejo nalilito lang ako kasi, yung 430 meron DTS ang 595 wala, while ang 530 meron din DTS-ES. Paano ba sequence ng model number ng yamaha receivers ? Please enlighten me. Thanks. :)

x94 1998
x95 1999
x96 2000
x20 2001
x30 2002
x40 2003

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jofkevski on Aug 07, 2003 at 05:29 PM
johnlen,

low profile ang unit mo ah - read its manual. Sa 6ohm speaker siguro mga 230wpc yan. My NEC is 80wpc sa 6ohms. Here is the internal picture of my amp.

http://www.amp55.com/tr-amp/nec/neca10-2.htm



Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: johnlen on Aug 07, 2003 at 06:11 PM
jofkevski,

Yes you are right sir, the 200wpc of the Yamaha MX-1 is at 8ohms, mga 230w nga siguro sa 6 ohms kasi sa 4 ohms 260w sya eh, sa 2 ohms 320w naman (this is minimum RMS), dynamic power on the other hand could go as high as 630w at 2 ohms.

Presumably at 1 ohm load kaya nya hanggang 1000w! But who needs 1000w anyway, wala pa yatang speaker na pambahay na kakaya ng 1kw, not even Yamaha speakers themselves for that matter.

I saw the pics of your NEC, integrated amp pala sya. Galeng ng piyesa sa loob pre! Do you connect your CD player directly sa NEC, siguro ganda ng tunog ano? Ako wala pang CD player eh, ubos pera ko sa MX-1. Gamit ko DVD player (DV-535K) ng Pioneer as CD player connected via coax to my Sony STR-DB930 receiver (oooops wrong thread na bigla!).

I know I can have more juice out of my system kung meron na kong disente na CD player. But that would come later pag me bread na ulit. I am thingking of getting a Musical Fidelity CDP. What do you use, if you don't mind me asking?

Cheers!
Danny    
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: akyatbundok on Aug 07, 2003 at 06:22 PM
wow galeng ng pics jofkevski, thanks for the link its very informative (thru pictures).  johnlen, may i ask wer u got ur mx-1?  tulo laway ko sa specs ng amps niyo he he.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: john5479 on Aug 07, 2003 at 11:26 PM

The MX-1 could easily beat hands down the more esoteric and definitely over expensive power amps in the market. MX-1 could muster enough power of up to 1000w into 1ohm load, this is how much reserve power it has, other well known high-end amp would choke at this load. Audipophiles would hate to admit this as they tend to frown upon Japanese products, sadly for them as they do not know what they are missing!  

The only problem why most shun at japanese audio products is that their top of the line products are only available in japan, and people just judge japanese products from their exports, like what akyatbundok said luxman and accuphase can go head to head with the likes of krell and mark levinson etc.

Try going to pier, you might find some gems in the rough there.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jofkevski on Aug 08, 2003 at 12:31 PM
johnlen,

magkano at saan mo naiskor yung mx-1 mo?

My NEC has 2 configuration switchable - 1 mode as integrated amp, and the other mode as separate power amp only. I have not played with it so much pa for lack of longer time with it.

Tama ka john5479, these type of tanks is usually for japanese market only.

I bought mine for P4000 only!!!

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: alfa on Aug 08, 2003 at 11:35 PM
Quote
Posted by: john5479  Posted on: Yesterday at 11:26:56pm  
Try going to pier, you might find some gems in the rough there.  
Pare where exactly in the Pier Area? I know the Philippine Star Building or the Head Office of the Bureau of Customs doon ba ?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: alfa on Aug 10, 2003 at 12:15 AM
The x40 series receivers are out locally! There was an ad in the Philippine Star yesterdas (Aug 9).

Please post the prices as soon as anyone gets to check. Please post lowered (sana) price of the x30 series.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jofkevski on Aug 10, 2003 at 09:49 PM
the x40 will be more expensive than x30. this is the assessment based on other countries where this receiver came out. I think, this will be the same here. If 630 started at 30k, 640 will start at 35k. My best guess.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 13, 2003 at 08:21 AM
192khz/24 bit audio na ba yung 30 series ng yamaha avr
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on Aug 13, 2003 at 08:28 AM
192khz/24 bit audio na ba yung 30 series ng yamaha avr

No. Even the new X40 series.


The Yamaha 1300, 2300 uses 192khz/24 bit DAC.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 13, 2003 at 08:33 AM
No. Even the new X40 series.


The Yamaha 1300, 2300 uses 192khz/24 bit DAC.

sorry for my ignorance sir, someone told me kasi that it's better to have an avr that's 192khz/24 bit dac since my dvd player has that feature, is that true?, what is that is for, how would I use that feature?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on Aug 13, 2003 at 08:43 AM
sorry for my ignorance sir, someone told me kasi that it's better to have an avr that's 192khz/24 bit dac since my dvd player has that feature, is that true?, what is that is for, how would I use that feature?

If your DVD player has 192khz/24 bit dac (and if you want to use the feature), the DAC of the receiver is useless because you will use the analog output (in order to use the 192khz/24 bit dac) of the player.

But if your connection is via digital (coax or optics), the DAC of the player is useless, it just passes through the signal then the DAC of the receiver will process the sound.

DAC is a Digital to Analog Converter, it is a signal/sound processor that converts the digital signal to analog so we can hear a sound. (this is a laymans term).

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 13, 2003 at 08:52 AM
If your DVD player has 192khz/24 bit dac (and if you want to use the feature), the DAC of the receiver is useless because you will use the analog output (in order to use the 192khz/24 bit dac) of the player.

But if your connection is via digital (coax or optics), the DAC of the player is useless, it just passes through the signal then the DAC of the receiver will process the sound.

DAC is a Digital to Analog Converter, it is a signal/sound processor that converts the digital signal to analog so we can hear a sound. (this is a laymans term).



how do you use the dac of the player or should I say how's the connection?

which one is better the dac connection or optical?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on Aug 13, 2003 at 09:03 AM
how do you use the dac of the player or should I say how's the connection?

which one is better the dac connection or optical?

If you want to use the DAC of the player, your connection should be analog then of ccourse connect it to analog input of your receiver.

There's no dac connection.

You may compare the digital optical with fiber optics connection:
http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=11;action=display;threadid=1802
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: johnlen on Aug 13, 2003 at 09:36 AM
You can certainly use the DAC of the DVD player if you wish. But be sure that your DVD player has a surround decoder/processor for DD and DTS, otherwise you will end up with just a stereo analog connection hence, you will not enjoy surround sound.

Remember also that there are several disadvantages when you use the DVD player&#8217;s DAC:

1. Most mass-market DVD players have inferior DACs than that of the receiver. Meaning, more often than not, you get better sound when using the DAC of the receiver.

2. You will need 6 analog interconnects/cables (from DVD player to receiver). Surely this is more expensive than having only one digital coax or toslink cable.

3. Make sure that the receiver has 5.1 RCA input jacks. Without these, where will you connect the 6 cables coming from the DVD?

4. Note also that most of the sound adjustment/tweak settings on the receiver are disabled when you use the DAC of the DVD player.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Aug 13, 2003 at 01:39 PM
Any yamaha rx-v530 owners here?  Feedback naman kung ok ang movie at music sound quality.

Thanks.


Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ADM202E on Aug 14, 2003 at 10:27 PM
Any yamaha rx-v530 owners here?  Feedback naman kung ok ang movie at music sound quality.

Thanks.




430/530 are the same in design sense, however, only one advantage of 530 is that mas marami syang input and output vs 430. I can say, depende sa speakers and floor area, both units are excellent for music and movie, considering the unit is at entry level.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 15, 2003 at 04:54 AM
 How can I connect my tv to the receiver so that I could have surround while watching tv?, is it possible using monitor out of my tv using rca cables?

 How can I connect my xbox to the receiver?

thanx
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mdsaint3 on Aug 15, 2003 at 07:02 AM
yes use the monitor out of your tv to connect it to any of the analog inputs of your receiver. xbox i think you would need a fiber optic cable to connect it to the digital in of your receiver.. what receiver did you end up buying ?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 15, 2003 at 07:17 AM
yes use the monitor out of your tv to connect it to any of the analog inputs of your receiver. xbox i think you would need a fiber optic cable to connect it to the digital in of your receiver.. what receiver did you end up buying ?

pre undecided pa nga eh, can't decided between denon 1803 and yammy 630.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Aug 15, 2003 at 10:19 AM
in my opinion get the 1803 since this is already 6.1 discreet the 630 is matrix.  
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Aug 15, 2003 at 11:14 AM
Please advise the current price for yammy 440. Thanks.

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 15, 2003 at 11:20 AM
in my opinion get the 1803 since this is already 6.1 discreet the 630 is matrix.  

bkit madami nagsasabi pangit daw 1803 wharf combi?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: levi on Aug 15, 2003 at 11:51 AM
Try it first. Try Denon with Missions, sure na maganda. You can wait for the new Yamaha if you prefer Wharfs.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Aug 15, 2003 at 11:58 AM
i've tried denon-wharf combi ok naman kung hindi ka ganun ka distinct sa sound. features wise, mas marami ang yammies kaysa denon.  power rating ng amp, mas malakas ang denon.  i've read some of your postings, mukhang leaning towards ka for the 6.1 feature.  yung denon kasi is 6.1 discreet and 630 is 6.1 matrix.  the difference kasi with the two, yung denon has a separate channel for rear center while yammies use two (yung surround channels ata) existing channels to create the rear center (what i understand from boss phil's explaination from my recent query regarding this).

actually, i already sold my setup sa utol ko kaya ulit nanaman ako, yung speakers halos kumpleto ko na since kabibili ko lang ng crystals (i still need to get cr-10 from nelrey) yung denon 1803 kukunin na rin sa akin pero ginagamit ko muna para sa crystals,  ok naman sya.  still shopping around for avrs right now but i'm picking between HK3550 or Yammies 730 (problema kasi is baka i-release na yung 40 series ng yammies).  

advise ko lang is, i-audition mo uli yung dalawa using the speakers that you're planning to get. kung ano talaga yung maganda para sa iyo, yun ang kunin mo. at least you were able to narrow down your choices. what we can give are advises comming from our point of views and experiences which may be different from your, dibadibs.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 15, 2003 at 12:16 PM
i've tried denon-wharf combi ok naman kung hindi ka ganun ka distinct sa sound. features wise, mas marami ang yammies kaysa denon.  power rating ng amp, mas malakas ang denon.  i've read some of your postings, mukhang leaning towards ka for the 6.1 feature.  yung denon kasi is 6.1 discreet and 630 is 6.1 matrix.  the difference kasi with the two, yung denon has a separate channel for rear center while yammies use two (yung surround channels ata) existing channels to create the rear center (what i understand from boss phil's explaination from my recent query regarding this).

actually, i already sold my setup sa utol ko kaya ulit nanaman ako, yung speakers halos kumpleto ko na since kabibili ko lang ng crystals (i still need to get cr-10 from nelrey) yung denon 1803 kukunin na rin sa akin pero ginagamit ko muna para sa crystals,  ok naman sya.  still shopping around for avrs right now but i'm picking between HK3550 or Yammies 730 (problema kasi is baka i-release na yung 40 series ng yammies).  

advise ko lang is, i-audition mo uli yung dalawa using the speakers that you're planning to get. kung ano talaga yung maganda para sa iyo, yun ang kunin mo. at least you were able to narrow down your choices. what we can give are advises comming from our point of views and experiences which may be different from your, dibadibs.

 Actually I auditioned na both pero I'm really having a hard time to decide, pareho sila maganda  :-\ (1803 and 630 on wharf).  There's a difference of course but pareho sila magenda in different aspects.  I should've bought yammy 630 immediately na lang para di na ko naguluhan  :P, since it was my original plan.  Anyway I decided to buy na lang maybe next month to make sure that I get what I "really" need and want, mahirap na kasi magmadali
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: obey on Aug 15, 2003 at 03:58 PM
Gutierrez,

The Yamaha-wharf combo has been around for quite some time now.  I used to have this setup at home, an rx-v430 matched with 8.1 and diamond center.   Maganda naman ang sound niya but you cannot really expect the yammie to bring out the best from the speakers since wharfedale diamonds are quite hard to drive being rated at 6 ohms with low sensitivity.  Plus, may limitations din yung speaker especially sa highs (tweeter).  This may not really be much of a problem for home theater pero sa music medyo mabibitin ka din.  

I've already relegated my 8.1s as surrounds and use the custom made floorstander I bought from nirvblakr.  Now, I'm really enjoying my setup be it for HT or 2-channel stereo (music).

My suggestion to you is if you're really bent on getting the 1803 then go ahead.  There are already lots of good reviews about this receiver.   However, the best suggestion would still be to be patient and wait.  Who knows, a price drop or a better product might just be around the corner :D  

Lastly, try also to look at the Marantz SR4300.  

Goodluck!


   

 
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: redisol on Aug 16, 2003 at 07:58 AM
Just saw Yamaha's ads in the newspapers. Lumabas na Rxv-x40 series.  Magkano kaya Rxv-440?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Aug 16, 2003 at 08:55 AM
Just saw Yamaha's ads in the newspapers. Lumabas na Rxv-x40 series.  Magkano kaya Rxv-440?

Ive experience the Yamaha Wharfs combo and Denon Wharfs combo, mas gusto ko ang Yamaha kung wharfs ang gagamitin, Kung mission naman ill go with the Denon, but as i always say, this is just me :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jofkevski on Aug 16, 2003 at 11:21 AM
Ive experience the Yamaha Wharfs combo and Denon Wharfs combo, mas gusto ko ang Yamaha kung wharfs ang gagamitin, Kung mission naman ill go with the Denon, but as i always say, this is just me :)

Yeah! this is how I figured the combination to be as well.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hamstie on Aug 16, 2003 at 11:44 AM
sir courage,
ok din ba yung yamaha and kenwood combination? ??? ??? saw a package of kenwood speakers sa sm eh. plano ko sana bilin after i sell my s200. btw sinundan ko yun posts mo dito how you started your setup. kaaliw ;D ;D ehehehe nabasa ko din tuloy yun naging negative comment dun sa dati mong setup :-X i would say na saludo ako sa yo kung pano mo nasimulan yun setup mo tapos ngayon lufet na  :o eheheheh ;D ;D
Title: Help Yamaha DVX-S80
Post by: gurang on Aug 17, 2003 at 09:26 AM
Hi. Newbie in the audio scene. Have been shopping for an affordable Home Theater Package (including player), and ran into the following sale item from Yamaha:

DVX-S80 Home Cinema System

(http://www.yamaha-audio.co.uk/images/products/normal_size/dvx-s80.jpg)
 
Home Theatre System
High Performance 2 box DVD Home Theatre System incorporating a high quality visual & audio information, Dolby Digital / DTS / Dolby Pro Logic II decoding with Matrix 6.1 Phantom rear centre & 5 channel stereo. Cinema DSP and silent cinema are also supported. The unit is designed alongside our high quality component product to ensure high sound quality. The stylish slim design concept offers easy installation, simple operation along with the latest technological features to enhance your listening pleasure. Compatible to CD-R/RW and MP3

Dynamic Power Output:
40W x5 Left, Centre, Right, Rear Left, Rear Right

Speakers: Main/Rear: 10cm Woofer + Balanced Dome Tweeter
Centre: 7cm x 3 + Piezo Tweeter
Subwoofer: 50w Advanced YST, 16cm Woofer


Well within my budget, but I want to know if there is a better package out there, likewise under 30,000. Thanks!
Title: Re:Help Yamaha DVX-S80
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 17, 2003 at 09:35 AM
Hi. Newbie in the audio scene. Have been shopping for an affordable Home Theater Package (including player), and ran into the following sale item from Yamaha:

DVX-S80 Home Cinema System

(http://www.yamaha-audio.co.uk/images/products/normal_size/dvx-s80.jpg)
 
Home Theatre System
High Performance 2 box DVD Home Theatre System incorporating a high quality visual & audio information, Dolby Digital / DTS / Dolby Pro Logic II decoding with Matrix 6.1 Phantom rear centre & 5 channel stereo. Cinema DSP and silent cinema are also supported. The unit is designed alongside our high quality component product to ensure high sound quality. The stylish slim design concept offers easy installation, simple operation along with the latest technological features to enhance your listening pleasure. Compatible to CD-R/RW and MP3

Dynamic Power Output:
40W x5 Left, Centre, Right, Rear Left, Rear Right

Speakers: Main/Rear: 10cm Woofer + Balanced Dome Tweeter
Centre: 7cm x 3 + Piezo Tweeter
Subwoofer: 50w Advanced YST, 16cm Woofer


Well within my budget, but I want to know if there is a better package out there, likewise under 30,000. Thanks!


 I think luma na yang HTIB na yan, try mo yung HTZ505dvd ng pioneer, 27K only.
Title: Re:Help Yamaha DVX-S80
Post by: gurang on Aug 17, 2003 at 10:38 AM
I think luma na yang HTIB na yan, try mo yung HTZ505dvd ng pioneer, 27K only.

thanks, though my priority is really the AV receiver and speakers, bonus na lang kung may kasamang player.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: johndoe on Aug 17, 2003 at 07:39 PM
yamaha rxv 430/530+a set of wharfedales front,center,and surrounds+a sub would cost you about 30k..
Title: Yamaha430
Post by: instinct311 on Aug 20, 2003 at 04:56 PM
i am a newbie help me naman kung oks na ang yamaha430 yan lang kasi kaya ng budget ko may nakita kasi ako mura sa parksquare. okay na ba yan na pang kwarto. fit ba sya sa m72 na speaker ko and DQ12 na sub. then i am planning to buy na rin the m7c1 na center speaker kasabay ng yamaha. rate naman ang yamaha430 plus my setup speaker para sa audio and video.
Title: Re:Yamaha430
Post by: 01SYNCTS on Aug 20, 2003 at 05:12 PM
i am a newbie help me naman kung oks na ang yamaha430 yan lang kasi kaya ng budget ko may nakita kasi ako mura sa parksquare. okay na ba yan na pang kwarto. fit ba sya sa m72 na speaker ko and DQ12 na sub. then i am planning to buy na rin the m7c1 na center speaker kasabay ng yamaha. rate naman ang yamaha430 plus my setup speaker para sa audio and video.

Its a good buy. Check out the yamaha thread for more useful inputs.
Title: Re:Yamaha430
Post by: instinct311 on Aug 20, 2003 at 05:14 PM
thanks. oks din ba sya sa audio?50-50 kasi ako kung gumamit eh
Title: Re:Yamaha430
Post by: Philander on Aug 20, 2003 at 05:34 PM
50-50 then you've got the right choice.

For more info:

http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=1622;start=460
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: levi on Aug 20, 2003 at 05:42 PM
 I have nothing against Yamaha but Denon is also a good match for Mission.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bOiNkEy on Aug 20, 2003 at 07:46 PM
 ;D ;D :-\ ???

Hi ppl...!I'm a newnie in HT and i'll be setting up mine soon...I searched for a good and affordable AVRs and so far the nearest to my budget is the one I saw in www.epinion.com (on-line shop), it's a Yamaha HTR-5640, only for S218.00 +++ tax & shipping but I never had a chance to audition it..... I can't find it on stores... :-[When i got the chance to read some of your threads I often read the RX-Vseries which are also more available in the market/stores....I searched the features & specifications at the Yamaha web site and found out that they are very much similar to RX-V530 (which you ppl said na "old mdl na..") but the price is very far... Pls give me feedbacks and I'll appreciate every comments that will help me decide what to buy...Thanks in advance...! :D ;D ;D

POWERFUL HOME THEATER RECEIVERThe HTR-5640 is a full-featured entry level home theater receiver ready for all formats. Major features include 6-channel discrete amplification (75W x 6), Yamaha's Digital ToP-ART design concept, Quad-Field CINEMA DSP, 24 surround program, SILENT CINEMA, and a preset remote control. It delivers high power to six channels and provides DTS ES Discrete 6.1, Neo:6, and DTS ES Matrix 6.1 decoding as well as Dolby Digital EX and Dolby Pro Logic II decoding.

DIGITAL TOP-ARTDigital ToP-ART (Total Purity Audio Reproduction Technology) is the name Yamaha has given to a design philosophy whose goal is to maximize signal purity.

ADVANCED DECODING CIRCUITRYYamaha's exclusive YSS-938 32-bit floating point quantization LSI. The decoding circuitry performs Dolby Pro Logic II, Dolby Digital Surround, DTS-ES (DTS-ES Matrix 6.1 and DTS-ES Discrete 6.1), and DTS Neo:6 decoding with extreme accuracy.

96kHz/24-BIT DIGITAL-TO-ANALOG CONVERTER SYSTEMThe HTR-5640's vitally important digital-to-analog converters use an extremely high performance 96kHz/24-bit operation type. They perform accurate sound field reproduction for high quality multi-channel sources, and for two-channel stereo, provide outstanding separation and precise musical delineation.

DISCRETE POWER TRANSISTORSDiscrete power transistors rather than IC chips are used in the amplifier section to provide the cleanest sound possible. The amp delivers 75 watts each to six channels.

24 DIFFERENT SOUND PROGRAMS YIELDING 44 VARIATIONS*Yamaha's exclusive Tri-Field Cinema DSP imaging for video sound and Digital Sound Field Processing for music delivers the most realistic and dramatic sound possible. The HTR-5640 features 24 different sound programs that provide a total of 44 variations, so every movie and every piece of music will sound right in your home theater.

PRESET REMOTE CONTROL UNITThe HTR-5640's remote control has built in preset codes for most other manufacturers equipment, so you can use it as a single remote for the entire system.

DIGITALLY REGULATED ANALOG VOLUME CONTROLNo one expects more from a volume control than up and down-except Yamaha. We decided that controlling the volume could be made easier and more accurate, and the result is the Digitally Regulated Volume Control. It lets you make delicate adjustments within a narrow range, yet enables you to move to very high or low levels more quickly with extreme accuracy.

DOLBY SURROUND PRO LOGIC IIThis new Dolby format provides 5.1 channel surround from any stereo source. A Movie Mode and Music Mode are provided for optimum listening.

ALL-CHANNEL STEREO DSPGreat for casual listening and parties, Yamaha's 6-channel stereo DSP puts music through all speakers in the system and maintains stereo imaging.

QUAD-FIELD AND TRI-FIELD CINEMA DSPTri-field CINEMA DSP projects three sound fields into the home theater: a Presence sound field in the front and two Surround sound fields in the left rear and right rear, resulting in a powerfully realistic three-dimensional soundscape.

SILENT CINEMABuilding on technology incorporated into its world famous "silent" musical instruments, Yamaha has added HRTF and "Virtual" technology to create a realistic surround movie effect using standard, two-channel headphones.

EXTENSIVE INPUTS AND OUTPUTSThe HTR-5640's back panel provides 3 composite video inputs and 2 outputs. In addition, it has 2 audio only analog inputs and one analog output.

TWO DIGITAL INPUTSWith two fully assignable digital inputs (1 optical and 1 coaxial), the RX-V440 can accommodate digital sources such as DVD and CD.

COMPONENT VIDEO INPUTSThe HTR-5640 incorporates two component video inputs.

SPEAKER A/B SWITCHINGFor convenience and versatility, the receiver can switch back and forth between two sets of speakers at the touch of a button, or you can run two pair of main speakers simultaneously.

SUBWOOFER PREAMP OUTPUTThe subwoofer has a pre-out connection. This allows you to add outboard amplification or direct subwoofer connection.

LOW IMPEDANCE DRIVE CAPABILITY AND IMPEDANCE SWITCHINGYamaha's famed low impedance drive circuitry is included in this receiver so that it can handle virtually all loads and a wide variety of speakers. For further speaker matching, the amplifier can set for either 4-or 8-ohm speakers.

LINEAR DAMPING FACTOR CIRCUITThe advantage of full range, 20 to 20,000 Hz, damping is that it improves the definition and resolution of the sound output throughout the audible frequency range.

SLEEP TIMERPermits a delayed receiver turn off. You can set it for up to two hours in 30 minute increments.

40-STATION DIRECT ACCESS PRESET TUNINGUp to 40 preset AM and FM stations can be grouped in five groups eight stations. These groupings make it easy for family members to easily access their favorite stations or to have musical genres, such as all the jazz stations, grouped together.

BINDING POST SPEAKER TERMINALSYamaha's heavy-duty binding post speaker terminals accept banana plugs, spade connectors, and a variety of speaker wire, including heavy gauge cable.

AUDIO SECTION  
Minimum RMS Output Power per Channel  
MAIN, 20Hz-20kHz, 0.06% THD, 8&#8486; 75W + 75W
CENTER, 20Hz-20kHz, 0.06% THD, 8&#8486; 75W + 75W
REAR, 20Hz-20kHz, 0.06% THD, 8&#8486; 75W + 75W
Minimum RMS Output Power per Channel  
MAIN, 1kHz, 0.06% THD, 8&#8486; 90W + 90W
CENTER, 1kHz, 0.06% THD, 8&#8486; 90W + 90W
REAR, 1kHz, 0.06% THD, 8&#8486; 90W + 90W
Dynamic Power per Channel  
MAIN, 8/6/4/2 &#8486; 95/120/160/190W
Dynamic Headroom  
8&#8486; 1.2dB
Damping Factor  
MAIN L/R, 20Hz-20kHz, 8&#8486; 80 or more
Input Sensitivity/Impedance  
CD, etc 150mV/47k&#8486;
Maximum Input Signal Level  
CD, etc (Effect on 2.2V
Output Level/Impedance  
OUT (REC) 150mV/1.2k&#8486;
SUBWOOFER (EFFECT OFF, MAIN SP:SMALL)  
MONO 4.0V/1.2k&#8486;
Headphone Jack Rated Output/Impedance  
CD, etc, (40mV, 8&#8486;) 340mV/560&#8486;
Frequency Response (10Hz-100kHz)  
CD, etc, MAIN L/R +0/-3.0dB
Tone Control Characteristics  
BASS:  
Boost/Cut +/-10dB (50Hz)
Turnover Frequency 350Hz
TREBLE:  
Boost/Cut +/-10dB (20kHz)
Turnover Frequency 3.5 kHz
Filter Characteristics  
SUBWOOFER OUT: LPF fc=90Hz, 18dB/oct
MAIN, CENTER, REAR SP SMALL: HPF fc=90Hz, 12dB/oct
Total Harmonic Distortion (20Hz-20kHz)  
CD, etc, to MAIN SP OUT L/R (1V) 0.06%
Signal-to-Noise Ratio (IHF-A-Network)  
CD, etc, Input Shorted (Effect off) 100dB
Residual Noise (IHF-A-Network)  
MAIN, SP OUT 150uV
Channel Separation (Vol. -30dB, Effect off)  
CD, etc, Input 5.1k&#8486; Shorted, 1kHz 60dB
Muting - &#8734;
VIDEO SECTION  
Video Signal Type NTSC
Composite Video Signal Level 1Vp-p/75&#8486;
Component Signal Level  
Y 1Vp-p/75&#8486;
Cb/Cr 0.7V/75&#8486;
Video Maximum Input Level 1.5Vp-p
Video Signal-to-Noise Ratio 50dB
Monitor Output Frequency Response  
Composite Video Signal 5Hz-10MHz, -3dB
Component Signal DC-60MHz, -3dB
TUNER SECTION (FM)  
Tuning Range 87.5 to 107.9MHz
50dB Quieting Sensitivity (IHF, 75&#8486;)  
Mono (1kHz, 100% Mod) 2.0uV (17.3dBf)
Stereo (1kHz, 100% Mod) 25uV (39.2dBf)
Selectivity (400kHz) 70dB
Signal-to-Noise Ratio  
Mono/Stereo (IHF) 76/70dB
Harmonic Distortion  
Mono/Stereo (1kHz) 0.2./0.3%
Stereo Separation  
1kHz 45dB
Frequency Response  
20Hz-15kHz +0.5/-2.0dB
Output Level  
FM 100% Mod. 1kHz 550mV
Antenna Input 75&#8486; unbalanced
TUNER SECTION (AM)  
Tuning Range 530 to 1,710kHz
Usable Sensitivity 300uV/m
Output Level  
AM 30% Mod. 1kHz 150mV
Signal-to-Noise Ratio 52dB
Antenna Loop Antenna
Dimensions (W x H x D) 17 1/8" x 6 5/16" x 15 3/8"
Weight 25 lbs


 ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: instinct311 on Aug 21, 2003 at 08:53 AM
thanks levi sa advice mo. do u have any idea kung magkano yung denon and marantz. kasi alam ko mababa pa rin  yung 430 na nakita ko compared sa denon and marantz. bigay mo naman saa kin yung mga dealer
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Aug 21, 2003 at 12:15 PM
ask nelrey for price of denon, pinaka mababa na yung price na binibigay niya (cash nga lang siya) also consider harman kardon kay nelrey
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: instinct311 on Aug 21, 2003 at 01:24 PM
do u have the number of nelrey
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Aug 21, 2003 at 01:32 PM
sent you pm, instinct311
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Titanium on Aug 21, 2003 at 01:56 PM
instinct311 ,

Hi, Im also using yamaha 430 with M72 main speakers, mc72 center and M70 surrounds for my room. Sub is DQ 120. This combination is superb for my application. Wala ka nang hahanapin pa, especially for my small room of about 35 sqm. I feel that I dont need to upgrade for a long time coz I can have the basic features of an HT set up, DTS, DD etc. The combination is great. I cannot describe it the way HT officionados do, but you wont feel bitin with this set up.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: instinct311 on Aug 21, 2003 at 02:40 PM
thanks, titanium oks ba tlaga sa music and video :D
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: edboy7 on Aug 21, 2003 at 05:50 PM
hey just read this one!!....wachatink? ;D

   Yamaha representatives presented their 2004 product line to their dealers in Florida. They introduced a handful of very powerful and interesting products, one of which was the successor to the RX-Z1 the RX-Z9.

The RX-Z9 is the new statement recevier from Yamaha designed to surpass the current title holders from B&K, Denon, Marantz and McIntosh (interesting how the last three are actually the same company!).

The Z9 is a 9.1 channel receiver (remember Yamaha does the whole front-effect thing that Onkyo gave up a few years ago.) which also allows you to run a full 7.1 system in tandem with a powered zone 2.

The unit is rated at 170W for the first 7 and 50Wx2 for the effect or "presence" channels.

It also includes a feature (YPAO) that is an evolution of Pioneer's MCACC and Infinity's RABOS. It performs a full acoustical evaluation of the room and applies 10 band (1 per octave) parametric equalization to all channels. It also determines speaker distances, actual frequency response, phase and level adjustments with the included microphone.

There's alot more....

It has an INTERNAL faroudja DCDi scaler/de-interlacer that outputs either 480i, 480p, 720p or 1080i from any NTSC source.

This also allows for full video transcoding and inclusion of the OSD through the Component outputs. (There are 6 Component Inputs).

Hmmm....what else? Oh yeah, 2 IEEE 1394 in/outs, Full bass management (which Yamaha spelled "Base" in their literature), 232 (of course) 3 12v assignable triggers, THX Ultra 2 (not that that really matters), Zone 2 Digital Out, Audio-Video Sync compensation and probably a lot more that I forgot.

Oh, one more thing...the chassis allows for more isolation between different stages than any receiver I've ever seen.

SRP? 4,499$ coming out in Nov.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackryan on Aug 21, 2003 at 06:34 PM
hey just read this one!!....wachatink? ;D

   Yamaha representatives presented their 2004 product line to their dealers in Florida. They introduced a handful of very powerful and interesting products, one of which was the successor to the RX-Z1 the RX-Z9.

The RX-Z9 is the new statement recevier from Yamaha designed to surpass the current title holders from B&K, Denon, Marantz and McIntosh (interesting how the last three are actually the same company!).

The Z9 is a 9.1 channel receiver (remember Yamaha does the whole front-effect thing that Onkyo gave up a few years ago.) which also allows you to run a full 7.1 system in tandem with a powered zone 2.

The unit is rated at 170W for the first 7 and 50Wx2 for the effect or "presence" channels.

It also includes a feature (YPAO) that is an evolution of Pioneer's MCACC and Infinity's RABOS. It performs a full acoustical evaluation of the room and applies 10 band (1 per octave) parametric equalization to all channels. It also determines speaker distances, actual frequency response, phase and level adjustments with the included microphone.

There's alot more....

It has an INTERNAL faroudja DCDi scaler/de-interlacer that outputs either 480i, 480p, 720p or 1080i from any NTSC source.

This also allows for full video transcoding and inclusion of the OSD through the Component outputs. (There are 6 Component Inputs).

Hmmm....what else? Oh yeah, 2 IEEE 1394 in/outs, Full bass management (which Yamaha spelled "Base" in their literature), 232 (of course) 3 12v assignable triggers, THX Ultra 2 (not that that really matters), Zone 2 Digital Out, Audio-Video Sync compensation and probably a lot more that I forgot.

Oh, one more thing...the chassis allows for more isolation between different stages than any receiver I've ever seen.

SRP? 4,499$ coming out in Nov.


wow, this is very interesting Yamaha receiver... now if it figures a way to come up with cross-licensing to incorporate Philips DNM feature (digital natural motion), that'll be great !
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 23, 2003 at 07:11 AM
I just went to listening room and they already have the yamaha rxv 40 series; the 440 is 16k, 540 is 19k.

I beleive it's already 6.1 discrete, the 440 is 6x110w while 540 is 6x115w.

is this a good buy compared to 630?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 23, 2003 at 07:45 AM
check out the chart for the rxv40 series

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/compare/recvr_16.htm
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jofkevski on Aug 23, 2003 at 10:31 AM
I just went to listening room and they already have the yamaha rxv 40 series; the 440 is 16k, 540 is 19k.

I beleive it's already 6.1 discrete, the 440 is 6x110w while 540 is 6x115w.

is this a good buy compared to 630?


The 440 is just 65watts per channel. the 540 is basically the same. the 110wpc, i think is in stereo at 10%THD. With all 6 channels simultaneously driven, this maybe about 6x35watts per channel.

The 630 is 75wpc. in stereo it is about 88wpc. It is beyond 100wpc for 10%THD. In real test, 630 has 6x40wpc (or 5x48wpc), all six channels simultaneously driven. 630 though has one of dts format in compatible form only.

The 640 is 85wpc. The 10wpc increase relative to 630 is immaterial in real world. using the math of 630, the 640 is about 6x45wpc or 2x102wpc. 640 is just like 630 in all features except one of dts format (not in compatible form only) and the measly 10watts.

the advantage of 630 over 540 is the upgrade path you can have with 630 having the pre-out for all channels. But if this does not matter to you, 540 is only advantageoous over 630 over one dts format (not in compatible form only). 630 has more watts (if this is an issue to you).

If i am to choose: 630 at less than 19k and 540 at 19k, I will take 630 (EISA 2002 receiver of the year).
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 23, 2003 at 11:21 AM
The 440 is just 65watts per channel. the 540 is basically the same. the 110wpc, i think is in stereo at 10%THD. With all 6 channels simultaneously driven, this maybe about 6x35watts per channel.

The 630 is 75wpc. in stereo it is about 88wpc. It is beyond 100wpc for 10%THD. In real test, 630 has 6x40wpc (or 5x48wpc), all six channels simultaneously driven. 630 though has one of dts format in compatible form only.

The 640 is 85wpc. The 10wpc increase relative to 630 is immaterial in real world. using the math of 630, the 640 is about 6x45wpc or 2x102wpc. 640 is just like 630 in all features except one of dts format (not in compatible form only) and the measly 10watts.

the advantage of 630 over 540 is the upgrade path you can have with 630 having the pre-out for all channels. But if this does not matter to you, 540 is only advantageoous over 630 over one dts format (not in compatible form only). 630 has more watts (if this is an issue to you).

If i am to choose: 630 at less than 19k and 540 at 19k, I will take 630 (EISA 2002 receiver of the year).

Bkit sa chart 540 is 6x80w?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: redisol on Aug 23, 2003 at 02:31 PM
Are the new features of the 440 worth the 4th difference over the 430?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: obey on Aug 23, 2003 at 06:25 PM
High current amps na ba ang mga x40 models ng yamaha?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 25, 2003 at 11:01 AM
San po ba ginagamit yun digital out?

San po ba ginagamit yun pre out all channel?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: instinct311 on Aug 25, 2003 at 11:28 AM
mga dude i just bought a yamaha430 oks naman ang tunog nya center speaker na lang ang kulang ko i have a missionm72 as front.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: johnlen on Aug 25, 2003 at 12:35 PM
San po ba ginagamit yun digital out?

San po ba ginagamit yun pre out all channel?

hey gutierrez,

hello there!

1. not so sure about the digital out, but i think you use them to make recording out from a digital stream, e.g., MD/DAT or CD perhaps.

2. i am more confident with the preouts though! you use the pre outs of your receiver if you want outboard amplification, meaning for example - if you would want your front speakers to be driven by a more powerful and better sounding amplifier (power amp that is), you connect an interconnect cable each to the front L/R preout of your receiver and then connect the other end of the cables to the power amplifier's L/R inputs. Of course your front speakers must now be connected to the power amp and not to the receiver!

In this configuration, you bypass the receiver's amplification stage and is now acting only as your preamplifeier/processor(for the fronts).  You control the tone/equalization, volume and digital processing from the receiver. The power amp will do nothing but to power up the front speakers.

Hope this will help.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jofkevski on Aug 25, 2003 at 12:45 PM
Expand ko lang further, johnlen.

Hi gutierez,

the 630 can have outboard amplifier for all 6 channels and the subwoofer. Thus, if you really want to build hi-end type of setup, you can have hi-power or better quality separate amp (other than the built-in into the 630) to power all your theater channels thru the use of pre-outs - not just front channels.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: johndoe on Aug 25, 2003 at 06:28 PM
Are the new features of the 440 worth the 4th difference over the 430?

DTS-ES/DD-EX 6.1 6.1 discrete..
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: johnlen on Aug 26, 2003 at 09:57 AM
Expand ko lang further, johnlen.

Hi gutierez,

the 630 can have outboard amplifier for all 6 channels and the subwoofer. Thus, if you really want to build hi-end type of setup, you can have hi-power or better quality separate amp (other than the built-in into the 630) to power all your theater channels thru the use of pre-outs - not just front channels.

Yes of course, outboard amplification would be possible for all the other channels if the 630 (as jofkevski said) has the preouts for all of them.

Cheers!
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 27, 2003 at 03:07 PM
New models High current design (x40 series )

I saw this at the yamaha website totoo kaya ito have anyone bought new models of yamaha x40 models??

Just gone to Ambasador Greenhill 440 selling 15+++ , 540 18+++ while 640 22,++++ but please clarify with them
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: instinct311 on Aug 29, 2003 at 01:57 PM
At last buo na rin ang HT. i am using 430 m7c1i,m72 as front,m70 as my sorround, dq12 na sub. SWABE ang tunog question lang kasi napansin ko na kapag puro salita lang ang pinapanood ko medyo mahina minsan yung center, paano ko i-adjust yung volume ng center kapag nag adjust ako sa volume kapag may blasting na sobrang lakas ::). ano pa bang features ng 430 na oks baka kasi na over excite lang ako. tinatamad na din ako magbasa ng manual eh ;D. TIPS and TRICKS naman sa 430 PLSSSSSSSSSSSS.....
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dexterc on Aug 29, 2003 at 02:04 PM
At last buo na rin ang HT. i am using 430 m7c1i,m72 as front,m70 as my sorround, dq12 na sub. SWABE ang tunog question lang kasi napansin ko na kapag puro salita lang ang pinapanood ko medyo mahina minsan yung center, paano ko i-adjust yung volume ng center kapag nag adjust ako sa volume kapag may blasting na sobrang lakas ::). ano pa bang features ng 430 na oks baka kasi na over excite lang ako. tinatamad na din ako magbasa ng manual eh ;D. TIPS and TRICKS naman sa 430 PLSSSSSSSSSSSS.....

Bro may settings yung receiver mo..depende sa gamit mo na speaker...pwede i set sa large at small...best advice basahin mo yung manual para pag may nabago alam mo kung pano ibaliksa dating setting...enjoy..and nice combo yan mission and yamaha
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: instinct311 on Aug 29, 2003 at 02:07 PM
Thanks Bro. :) konting tips and tricks naman dyan, ano bang magandang gamitin kapag movie kasi meron mga spectacle... ano ba ibig sabihin non.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dexterc on Aug 29, 2003 at 02:34 PM
Thanks Bro. :) konting tips and tricks naman dyan, ano bang magandang gamitin kapag movie kasi meron mga spectacle... ano ba ibig sabihin non.

Ako i prefer using the normal DD and DTS....although the DSP are also very good..depende sa taste mo..regarding what  tips and tricks are you asking? Maintenance?..How to use and manipulate it? Kung sa pag ma manipulate ng settings,pinapaubaya ko na sa mga magagaling mag calibrate na nababagay sa room or listening area mo.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: instinct311 on Aug 29, 2003 at 02:42 PM
Any contacts? another question safe ba na ilagay yung center speaker  sa ibabaw ng receiver ko kasi nde kasya sa ibabaw ng TV may another level pa kasi eh
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: iceman90a on Aug 29, 2003 at 02:43 PM
At last buo na rin ang HT. i am using 430 m7c1i,m72 as front,m70 as my sorround, dq12 na sub. SWABE ang tunog question lang kasi napansin ko na kapag puro salita lang ang pinapanood ko medyo mahina minsan yung center, paano ko i-adjust yung volume ng center kapag nag adjust ako sa volume kapag may blasting na sobrang lakas ::). ano pa bang features ng 430 na oks baka kasi na over excite lang ako. tinatamad na din ako magbasa ng manual eh ;D. TIPS and TRICKS naman sa 430 PLSSSSSSSSSSSS.....

i guess may channel levels yan receiver mo. adjust mo na lang yung for center channel = +2 to +3 para mas malakas sya relative sa other speakers at the same setting ng master volume  :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: iceman90a on Aug 29, 2003 at 02:45 PM
Any contacts? another question safe ba na ilagay yung center speaker  sa ibabaw ng receiver ko kasi nde kasya sa ibabaw ng TV may another level pa kasi eh

di masyado advisable kasi umiinit ang receiver while operating. tsaka di dapat takpan yung mga vents ng receiver  ;)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dexterc on Aug 29, 2003 at 02:47 PM
Any contacts? another question safe ba na ilagay yung center speaker  sa ibabaw ng receiver ko kasi nde kasya sa ibabaw ng TV may another level pa kasi eh

di adviceable..pwede pa sa tv kc magnetically shielded naman yung m7c1 so no problem...contact...well,regarding sa nag calibrate nun sa set up ko..it was a gud frend na nakilala ko thru here...tsaka di nya profession yun...hobby rin lang pero lately busy sya kaya nung lumipat ako ng apartment di pa ulit na calibrate set up ko
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: D75C on Aug 29, 2003 at 02:49 PM
Amps generate a lot of heat talaga. Give it enough breathing space and if you can, buy a couple of quiet cooling fans to improve ventilation.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: instinct311 on Aug 29, 2003 at 03:00 PM
Thanks mga bro. pero yung center speaker ko nde naman nya na occupy yung buong receiver halos wala pa sa kalahati. pero since advice nyo na nde pwede much better na wag na lang' i'll take your advice. kahit na email lang kung ano yung mga combination (pwede ba yon? :o)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 30, 2003 at 04:20 AM
san ba gawa yun mga yamaha receivers dito? china ba?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ADM202E on Aug 30, 2003 at 09:30 AM
At last buo na rin ang HT. i am using 430 m7c1i,m72 as front,m70 as my sorround, dq12 na sub. SWABE ang tunog question lang kasi napansin ko na kapag puro salita lang ang pinapanood ko medyo mahina minsan yung center, paano ko i-adjust yung volume ng center kapag nag adjust ako sa volume kapag may blasting na sobrang lakas ::). ano pa bang features ng 430 na oks baka kasi na over excite lang ako. tinatamad na din ako magbasa ng manual eh ;D. TIPS and TRICKS naman sa 430 PLSSSSSSSSSSSS.....

You will surely get more if you read the manual. Nabigla din ako after a week na nabili ko ang yammy ko anddun ko lang nabasa yung manual. Dami palang pwedeng gawin. Maganda jan pwede mo iprogram yung remote mo, mine naprogram ko na yund TV/VHS....dvd player na  lang..generic kasi kaya di ko makuha ang code.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ADM202E on Aug 30, 2003 at 09:32 AM
Thanks mga bro. pero yung center speaker ko nde naman nya na occupy yung buong receiver halos wala pa sa kalahati. pero since advice nyo na nde pwede much better na wag na lang' i'll take your advice. kahit na email lang kung ano yung mga combination (pwede ba yon? :o)

Pards could yopu pls give me a quote or pm me the price of your mission speakers (individual parts)? I may upgrade from wharfs kasi.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Jick on Aug 30, 2003 at 08:36 PM
PAGING ALL YAMAHA RECEIVER EXPERTS!

What's the loudest a Yamaha receiver can go?

I mean in terms of volume?  I usually listen between -40 to -30 only, in movies it gets to -20 sometimes.  Is zero the loudest volume or does it reach the + such as +10 etc.?

I have the RXV430.

Jovi
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ADM202E on Aug 30, 2003 at 08:41 PM
PAGING ALL YAMAHA RECEIVER EXPERTS!

What's the loudest a Yamaha receiver can go?

I mean in terms of volume?  I usually listen between -40 to -30 only, in movies it gets to -20 sometimes.  Is zero the loudest volume or does it reach the + such as +10 etc.?

I have the RXV430.

Jovi

I have the same model and magwa-one month ko na syang baby today, YEHEY!  ;D Mine so far has gone up to -29dB, dumadagundong na bahay namin nun. Mahirap baka masira ang unit and speakers If I attempt to go beyond it.  ::)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on Aug 30, 2003 at 08:42 PM
Jick,

why dont you try for yourself, you can stopped the source (or no signal is fee up to the receiver) then increase the volume..

AFAIK, max is +18 level/decibel.

And the actual volume will depend also in the speakers, kung mas mataas ang sensitivity, mas malakas kahit sa lower volume setting compared with lower sensitivity rating.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: obey on Aug 31, 2003 at 12:42 AM
Usual volume level ko is -35.  Maliit lang kasi kwarto ko.
I think yung max volume (numerical figure) ng rx-v430 is 0.  Parang binaliktad lang yung orientation with 0 as the highest/loudest.  Sinubukan ko lang itodo yung volume na walang source na naka-play. :D
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: shine on Aug 31, 2003 at 09:17 PM
sa akin hanggang -10 db umaabot ako, im also using rxv430, front ko ang NS1000M at Sorround ko ang wharf 8.4
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: obey on Aug 31, 2003 at 11:35 PM
Paki share niyo naman yung speaker settings niyo sa receiver.  Thanks!

Eto yung sa akin (very small room):

Front/Main:  Large:   0
Center:        Large:  -1
Surrounds:  Small:  - 5 (nasa tabi ko lang kasi yung        
                                      speakers)
1D Bass:     Movies:         Both or Swfr
                   Music (2ch):  Main  
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Jick on Sep 01, 2003 at 10:50 PM
I have the same model and magwa-one month ko na syang baby today, YEHEY!  ;D Mine so far has gone up to -29dB, dumadagundong na bahay namin nun. Mahirap baka masira ang unit and speakers If I attempt to go beyond it.  ::)

Anong speakers mo? Siguro mataas ang sensitivity ng speakers mo.  Ako sa 2 channel hanggang low 30's, pero sa movies aabot ako sa 20s.

Jovi
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ADM202E on Sep 02, 2003 at 09:06 AM
Anong speakers mo? Siguro mataas ang sensitivity ng speakers mo.  Ako sa 2 channel hanggang low 30's, pero sa movies aabot ako sa 20s.

Jovi

Hi! As of now, WH2 and BOSE201. But Im planning to eighter to 8.3s or missions. If I have the budget, im planning also to sell these units. Malakas din ang WH2, ok din ang bipolar speakers nya, good for matrixed 6.1 DTS-ES and DD-EX movies. Tested this paulit-ulit using Animatrix "flight of osiris" DTS mode and Final destiantion 2 "car crash scene" DTS-ES mode, hanep talaga. Auto detected ang matrix 6.1 and naglight-up yung center rear sa LCD panel ng rxv430.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Narayan on Sep 05, 2003 at 11:54 PM
To all Yamaha lovers,

The 40series are already out na sa Listening in Style Shangrila. 5 stars winner and 440! Check them out.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: redisol on Sep 06, 2003 at 07:38 AM
DTS-ES/DD-EX 6.1 6.1 discrete..

So yung discrete feature lang ang bago sa 440? I'm not planning to install a rear center speaker (no space), so pwede na ba yung 430?  
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Yakuini on Sep 06, 2003 at 02:26 PM
Guys good news! Yamaha RX-V440 recently won the prestigious Home Theatre Receiver category of the European Imaging and Sound Association (EISA)'s European Home Theatre Awards 2003-2004.

More of that here - http://www.audioworld.com/stat/pr/0309/01.yamaha.rx-v440.receiver.wins.eisa.award.shtml (http://www.audioworld.com/stat/pr/0309/01.yamaha.rx-v440.receiver.wins.eisa.award.shtml)

Astig!  :o
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: johndoe on Sep 06, 2003 at 03:10 PM
So yung discrete feature lang ang bago sa 440? I'm not planning to install a rear center speaker (no space), so pwede na ba yung 430?  
ok na ung 430,but mas maganda if higher models nlang kunin mo like 530 and 630..
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: frieden on Sep 09, 2003 at 11:16 AM
Mga bro. paki tulungan naman ako, I have a simple system and  planning to upgrade it, below is the system config.

Yamaha RX-V592 (prologic) with (DDP2) Dolby Digital 2 decoder
Center speaker NS-P50 (150W Max/50W Min)  Power
Effect speakers NS-P50 (80W) Max input power
Front speaker NS-50 (250W Max/70M Min) Power

all speaker are 6 ohms in impedance.
Im planning to upgrade the receiver to RX-V530 or 630.

Question: Does the RX-V530 or 630 can drive the speakers, or the speakers can support the receivers? in short match ba 530 or 630 with my existing speakers?

with my existing setup happy naman ako sa sounds both for HT and audio, pag nagpalit ba ako ng receiver may magiging improvement kaya?

im not planning to upgrade the speakers, wala kasi akong budget .

thanks a lot.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gutierrez on Sep 09, 2003 at 11:22 AM
Mga bro. paki tulungan naman ako, I have a simple system and  planning to upgrade it, below is the system config.

Yamaha RX-V592 (prologic) with (DDP2) Dolby Digital 2 decoder
Center speaker NS-P50 (150W Max/50W Min)  Power
Effect speakers NS-P50 (80W) Max input power
Front speaker NS-50 (250W Max/70M Min) Power

all speaker are 6 ohms in impedance.
Im planning to upgrade the receiver to RX-V530 or 630.

Question: Does the RX-V530 or 630 can drive the speakers, or the speakers can support the receivers? in short match ba 530 or 630 with my existing speakers?

with my existing setup happy naman ako sa sounds both for HT and audio, pag nagpalit ba ako ng receiver may magiging improvement kaya?

im not planning to upgrade the speakers, wala kasi akong budget .

thanks a lot.

If you want to upgrade dun ka na sa x40 models (540 is 18k only)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: frieden on Sep 09, 2003 at 12:11 PM
If you want to upgrade dun ka na sa x40 models (540 is 18k only)

ok its either 530/540 or 630/640, pero ok lang ba sa existing na speakers ko? may magiging improvement kaya?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gutierrez on Sep 09, 2003 at 12:15 PM
meron din yan pero don't expect that much, but anyway you'll still upgrade the speakers so ok lang di
ma-cocompromise yung new avr mo.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: frieden on Sep 09, 2003 at 01:02 PM
meron din yan pero don't expect that much, but anyway you'll still upgrade the speakers so ok lang di
ma-cocompromise yung new avr mo.

ang concern ko lang kasi yung existing ko na avr ay 110W x 3 tapos yung rear 75W, pag nag palit kaya ako ang 530/540 kaya pa kaya nyang i drive yung mga speakers, i mean hindi kaya ma ngongo yung sounds?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: frieden on Sep 09, 2003 at 01:03 PM
meron din yan pero don't expect that much, but anyway you'll still upgrade the speakers so ok lang di
ma-cocompromise yung new avr mo.

pahabol lang, as i mention wala akong budget para makapag palit ng speakers so ang plan ko stick ako sa existing na speakers ko. ok lang ba yun?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: johnlen on Sep 09, 2003 at 02:15 PM
Ideally, speakers should be rated somewhere near or equals the output power of the amp. Speakers with lower power handling than the output of the amp is okay but you need to be careful with the volume level so as not to overdrive the speakers. But do not take this into extreme! A 10-watt speaker is no good for a 200 watts amp.

As long as you have a decent set of speakers, hindi naman ma-ngongongo and sound.

One sure bad thing is to use speakers with higher power handling capacity than the amp as you will need to drive the amp into clipping or beyond its capacity to get the desired volume. This is a sure way to burn your tweeters! (Ex., 200W speakers driven by a 50 watts amp).

A good rule of thumb is to have a balanced system. A good quality amp should have good quality speakers to drive. Imagine for example an amp costing P150,000 driving a set of let&#8217;s say Dai-Ichi speakers &#8211; hindi tama di ba? Kasi malaki pa ang ibubuga ng amp if it is paired to a speaker within it&#8217;s class. You can also look at it the other way around, kahit gano pa kaganda (o kamahal) ang speakers pero kung ang amp ay patakbuhin, hindi mo rin madidinig ang ganda ng tunog ng speaker.

I hope you get the point. Plan your upgrade path, get as much as quality components that you can afford (one by one) making sure along the way that you will be able to perfectly match them when your system is completely upgraded.
 


Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: s2kov on Sep 09, 2003 at 03:52 PM
Does anyone knows how much is the RXV640 (cheapest)? Also, the SR6300 (if possible)? :D
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on Sep 09, 2003 at 04:05 PM
Does anyone knows how much is the RXV640 (cheapest)? Also, the SR6300 (if possible)? :D

640: 22.2K
6300: 22.5K
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: s2kov on Sep 09, 2003 at 04:10 PM
Thanks... :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: akyatbundok on Sep 10, 2003 at 02:49 PM
640: 22.2K
6300: 22.5K

ayus! bagsakan ng presyo... philander san store ang ganitong prices?? thanks!
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on Sep 10, 2003 at 03:25 PM
ayus! bagsakan ng presyo... philander san store ang ganitong prices?? thanks!

Yung sa Yamaha, halos sa lahat, baka nga mas mababa pa sa iba.

Yung sa Marantz kay Mr. Sonny, ewan ko lang kung nakasale lang yung 6300 for that price.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hkfoam on Sep 12, 2003 at 10:22 PM
Question lang po if there is such a  thing as proper "breaking in" of a receiver like the speaker? I recently got my RX-V640 paired with missions front  rear and center. I have been using it for a week and noticed a  slight improvement sa quality ng sounds from my setup pero medyo hesitant pa ako mag full blast. The loudest i 've been was -30 pero i usually do -40. TIA!
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: redisol on Sep 13, 2003 at 09:34 AM
Which is a better buy; the Rxv430 or the Rxv340?  
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: tamulmol on Sep 13, 2003 at 11:10 PM
tanong lang po? Ok lang po ba i-match ang RXV-430 or RXV-520 sa Dai-ichi na speaker yung slim series nila.  Thanks.

newbie lang kasi eh.....
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: levi on Sep 14, 2003 at 12:26 AM
tanong lang po? Ok lang po ba i-match ang RXV-430 or RXV-520 sa Dai-ichi na speaker yung slim series nila.  Thanks.

newbie lang kasi eh.....

Try also Wharfedale bookshelves.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: tamulmol on Sep 14, 2003 at 04:02 AM
sir levi, any idea how much would it cost me to buy complete set of wharfedale spkr? (5.1)  Thanks again.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: BuLLeT on Sep 14, 2003 at 01:20 PM
Tamulmol  and Mr. Levi

Pardon me for butting in.

For Wharfedale diamond series, you will have to shell out less than 15 K for the following:

8.3 (8.4?) - 1 pair
8C            - 1 pc.
8.1           - 1 pair

SW is not included and the price will depend on what you like. SW price begins from 5.5K up to whatever you like to spend.

Please do check the wharfedale thread for more insights since this may be off topic here.

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: levi on Sep 15, 2003 at 01:27 AM
What is your budget for speakers? For receiver, I think the 430 is better than the old 520 but I can be wrong. Lets ask the Yamaha users.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dexterc on Sep 17, 2003 at 01:39 AM
What is your budget for speakers? For receiver, I think the 430 is better than the old 520 but I can be wrong. Lets ask the Yamaha users.

Not much difference levi...maybe xompared to the 40 series of yamaha..difference would be noticeable since the 6th channel is already amplified in the 40 series
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: instinct311 on Sep 17, 2003 at 08:24 AM
Question lang regarding my 430. bakit nde ko ma-adjust yung volume ng front speaker ko? o talgang nde sya na adjust. naka depend na lang sya sa volume ng receiver.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: johnlen on Sep 17, 2003 at 09:05 AM
instinct311,

the fronts are controlled by the master volume, you adjust the rest of the speakers to be as loud as the fronts.

hope this helps



Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jester99 on Sep 18, 2003 at 01:26 PM
Are Yamaha and Mission a good pair for both Music and HT?

Thanks ...
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: obey on Sep 18, 2003 at 01:31 PM
As far as this forum is concerned, Mission and Wharfedale are the most recommended match with yamaha receivers.  

What about yamaha-monitor audio? Okay kaya ang match?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 18, 2003 at 05:35 PM
Obey,

I think pwede pre detail naman sound ng monitor pre.. but I have not audition them together..
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: levi on Sep 19, 2003 at 01:24 AM
My old Yamaha Receiver matches well with my B&W. I also heard the setup of Voj and Lyon and its a good match with Paradigm speakers.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: j_albert22 on Sep 19, 2003 at 05:54 PM
As far as this forum is concerned, Mission and Wharfedale are the most recommended match with yamaha receivers.  

What about yamaha-monitor audio? Okay kaya ang match?

Monitor Audio is also much to yamaha coz i use before  both HT and audio..
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: obey on Sep 20, 2003 at 12:07 PM
Hans, J_Albert, and Levi,

Thanks for the replies and suggestions!  More Power!
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: j_albert22 on Sep 20, 2003 at 12:40 PM
Hans, J_Albert, and Levi,

Thanks for the replies and suggestions!  More Power!


congrats in advance :D :D
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: obey on Sep 20, 2003 at 03:50 PM
J_Albert,

No plan to upgrade pa as of the moment.  Sobrang kuntento ako ngayon sa setup ko.  Am using the floorstanding speakers I bought from nirvblakr.  Price/Performance-wise eh wala talagang tatalo :D
Para na rin akong naka B&W 603 S3 at a very much cheaper price.  Thanks!

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: garfield03 on Sep 21, 2003 at 08:12 PM
Hi cousin skeeter. The Yamaha 430 ur mentioning is already SOLD.  
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: cousin skeeter on Sep 22, 2003 at 09:50 PM
peeps,

advice needed. if you wer to choose, yamaha 620 for 11K (2nd hand) and yamaha 430 for 12.3K (brand new) which wud u choose? and y? thanks!
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: indridcold on Sep 23, 2003 at 12:45 AM
bro il be biased coz m selling my 620 ha. look at the back panel and see the difference. power is also a factor esp if you plan on pairing the avr with wharfs. if you are into movies you will not regret the 620. ;)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: cousin skeeter on Sep 23, 2003 at 08:18 AM
indridcold,

hehehe.yeah i checked the yamaha site and the 620 indeed has better specs, so i guess ill see u later for the demo :)
Title: yamaha rxv440
Post by: triplex on Sep 23, 2003 at 04:18 PM
need advice bros, am planning to purchase the rxv 440, 6.1 of yamaha. (any feedbacks from this?)  since im on a tight budget, am choosing between the two wharf speaker package:

Package 1, Center - 8.0, FrontL/R - 8.2 (plan to buy the 8.1 for my surrounds later) total cost kung kasama yung 8.1 is 13.9k

package 2, Front L/R - 8.2, WH2 (center, and bipolar surrounds), at least eto subs nalang kulang. (total of 9.6K)

my room is around 9 square meters. also if i choose package two, i have the option to buy an ctr 8.0 later and use the wh2 for my rear center.

it'l only cost me 15k for the rxv440 plus the package 2 speaker for only 9.6k , a total of 24k.  i can only stretch up to 26k at the moment.

what do you think?

nga pala, I also need tips on where to buy mid-price speaker cables. and their cost para i can estimate how much i need for the cables.

my dvd player nga pala is pioneer dv266  and my TV is a Flat 25" JVC.





Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: indridcold on Sep 23, 2003 at 06:41 PM
Thanks bro. Hope you enjoy your setup. text me pag may questions ka.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: cousin skeeter on Sep 24, 2003 at 12:48 PM
indridcold,

bro, serious in tying the knot huh. hehehe. anyway, well be testing it later with the mission speakers of my friend (ill have to be content with my old stereo speakers for  now til have enuf dough for missions). ill txt u if ive any questions.

it was nice meeting u! :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ADM202E on Sep 24, 2003 at 12:55 PM
peeps,

advice needed. if you wer to choose, yamaha 620 for 11K (2nd hand) and yamaha 430 for 12.3K (brand new) which wud u choose? and y? thanks!

I bought my rxv430 gold at spectra at 12.3k and now going to its 3rd month.  They might sell some slightly used units.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: cousin skeeter on Sep 24, 2003 at 01:06 PM
sigma-delta,

ive already bought the 620. met indridcold yesterday and auditioned it at his place. now im back in iloilo. features wise its like the 630 but without the prologic II which i think i can live without. and for 11K, i think its a steal :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ADM202E on Sep 24, 2003 at 01:10 PM
sigma-delta,

ive already bought the 620. met indridcold yesterday and auditioned it at his place. now im back in iloilo. features wise its like the 630 but without the prologic II which i think i can live without. and for 11K, i think its a steal :)

Thats nice, I my self never used the prologicI/II on my yammy, I prefer the DTS/DD and DSP modes the yammy offers.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: indridcold on Sep 24, 2003 at 09:20 PM
Thanks skeeter bro. Hope you enjoy the 620 as I did. ;)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: tamulmol on Sep 27, 2003 at 07:15 PM
very gud talaga ang Yamaha.  Nabili ko yung Yammy ni Chronic RXV-430 Mahusay tumunog kahit Wharfedale lang ang partner...  OOngi...
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: cousin skeeter on Sep 29, 2003 at 10:39 AM
yup it sounds great for HT that i can attest to, but it sounds a tad bright for me when it comes to music. am gonna enjoy my 620 for a while but i intend to sell it if i see anyone selling their HK 2550. might sell it for a higher price coz dealers here in our place sell em receivers at almost twice the price there in manila :). went to a dealer here yesterday and they were selling onkyo 600 for 38T, yamaha 630 for 30T :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: instinct311 on Sep 29, 2003 at 10:49 AM
question lang regarding matrix6.1 ng 430, what does it mean? pwede ko bang lagyan ng rear center ang 430? para gumana yung matrix6.1 or 5.1 gumagana na sya?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on Sep 29, 2003 at 10:52 AM
question lang regarding matrix6.1 ng 430, what does it mean? pwede ko bang lagyan ng rear center ang 430? para gumana yung matrix6.1 or 5.1 gumagana na sya?

Virtual/phantom mode only.

You cannot matrix the sound para maging  6.1. Yamaha 430 does not have pre-outs.

HTH.
Title: looking for rxv 430 yammy
Post by: triplex on Sep 29, 2003 at 12:19 PM
mga bros, anyone knows where I can find the a bnew rxv 430, sa listening room in mega nakita ko 13,800. ok na ba to? thanks
Title: Re:looking for rxv 430 yammy
Post by: Philander on Sep 29, 2003 at 12:20 PM
Do check Ambasador.. it's +/- 12.5K
Title: Re:looking for rxv 430 yammy
Post by: triplex on Sep 29, 2003 at 12:38 PM
thanks but ive talked to them, wala na daw avaialble, ayang naman if i get the rxv 440, i only plan a 5.1 setup. anyway thanks, think will do a phone marathon to look for a 430. ;D
Title: Re:looking for rxv 430 yammy
Post by: edboy7 on Sep 29, 2003 at 12:53 PM
try sound dimension sa park square one...i saw one there....hmmmmm sights and sound also na rin...same place ;D
Title: Re:looking for rxv 430 yammy
Post by: cousin skeeter on Sep 29, 2003 at 01:15 PM
triplex,

someone was selling me his 2nd hand onkyo 494 for 10K. heres his cell in case your interested. 09178969144
Title: Re:looking for rxv 430 yammy
Post by: triplex on Sep 29, 2003 at 04:53 PM
thanks for the recoms, does onkyo match with wharf speakers?  anybody selling their yamaha receivers?
Title: Re:looking for rxv 430 yammy
Post by: fivepointone on Sep 30, 2003 at 12:44 AM
ok din ang onkyo-wharf setup, but i think onkyo is better w/ b&w
Title: Re:looking for rxv 430 yammy
Post by: garee on Sep 30, 2003 at 09:26 AM
yeah i see at Ambassador in Park Square1 for P12.3k the same goes for Sights & Sounds at Par Square2.
Title: Re:looking for rxv 430 yammy
Post by: triplex on Sep 30, 2003 at 11:22 AM
thanks garee, ok din ba ang 530 ng yamaha compared sa 430? same watts per channel daw, component video ang lamang lang daw ng 530. are there any comments sa diff nila? thanks.
Title: Re:looking for rxv 430 yammy
Post by: Dime_Licker on Sep 30, 2003 at 12:40 PM
ok din ba yung RX-V440?  Most stores sell this at 18.5K.  6.1 channel ito eh.  Would it match the NSP236 speakers?  I'm super new to this and would appreciate some insights.  Thanks!
Title: Re:looking for rxv 430 yammy
Post by: garee on Sep 30, 2003 at 01:13 PM
hindi ko alam ang difference nila you wanna try this
http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/index.html (http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/index.html)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jofkevski on Sep 30, 2003 at 05:13 PM
question lang regarding matrix6.1 ng 430, what does it mean? pwede ko bang lagyan ng rear center ang 430? para gumana yung matrix6.1 or 5.1 gumagana na sya?

Yamaha 430 has matrix 6.1. this 6th channel, however, is not reproduced separately, but rather, distributed on left and right rear to make a virtual (phantomed) speaker at the back center.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: tamulmol on Sep 30, 2003 at 08:07 PM
yeah right bro, jofkevski.  5.1 lang talaga ang 430 yung pang 6 channel distributed na lang sa rear left and right.
Title: Re:looking for rxv 430 yammy
Post by: tamulmol on Sep 30, 2003 at 08:17 PM
Ako RXV-430 gamit tapos Wharf 8.3, diamond 8 center, dfs 8 plus US audio lang (8").  OK matching nya pre.  

Go for Yammy.  OOngi.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: weneklek on Oct 01, 2003 at 10:02 AM
how much rxv440 today? san mura meron? brand new of course... thanks guys
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gutierrez on Oct 01, 2003 at 11:04 AM
ambassador or hometheater
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: garfield03 on Oct 01, 2003 at 11:35 AM
Hello! San yung hometheater? Where is it located? also the Spectra? san din yun?

Thanks!
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gutierrez on Oct 01, 2003 at 11:46 AM
Hello! San yung hometheater? Where is it located? also the Spectra? san din yun?

Thanks!
Spectra is at Park Square1 while hometheater is at makati tordesillas st. Princeton tower, tawagan mo na lang yun homethater (8125235)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Oct 01, 2003 at 04:39 PM
how much rxv440 today? san mura meron? brand new of course... thanks guys

bro, went to spectra and sound dimension today 15K plus yung rxv440
Title: Re:looking for rxv 430 yammy
Post by: triplex on Oct 01, 2003 at 05:21 PM
thanks bros for the infos, got my yammy already, rxv 530. got it since it has more options as compared to the 430, still i need to set it up to appreciate my HT.

more power sa forum!!! ;D
Title: Re:looking for rxv 430 yammy
Post by: tamulmol on Oct 01, 2003 at 06:50 PM
Happy listening na lang pre.... Sigurado di ka magsisi dyan....
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: iceraen on Oct 02, 2003 at 05:17 PM
mga pre
 rxv-430 sa virra mall meron 12.3k sa tapat ng precision 2nd floor.or u can audition at there branch in megamall listening room ata,look for edwin or inquire to 6817571

i hope naka tulong ako
ice
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: triplex on Oct 03, 2003 at 11:08 AM
for the rxv 530 users, share nyo naman yun mga advisable adjustments/ tips  with your avrs. need to perfect pa on adjustments to optimize my existing HT set up.

thanks.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MJ-JM on Oct 03, 2003 at 08:06 PM
I I bought a yamaha 440 kanina, but i found out that it only uses optical cable for the dvd player.. yung coaxial nya pang cd lang.... bad trip kasi yung dvd player ko eh coaxial lang ang digital output...

ano po kaya pwede ko gawin?

TIA
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MJ-JM on Oct 03, 2003 at 09:15 PM
I I bought a yamaha 440 kanina, but i found out that it only uses optical cable for the dvd player.. yung coaxial nya pang cd lang.... bad trip kasi yung dvd player ko eh coaxial lang ang digital output...

ano po kaya pwede ko gawin?

TIA

Nevermind nakuha ko na po.  ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Archie on Oct 03, 2003 at 10:09 PM
Yamaha 430 has matrix 6.1. this 6th channel, however, is not reproduced separately, but rather, distributed on left and right rear to make a virtual (phantomed) speaker at the back center.

patanong?

1) masmaganda ba ang may discrete channel?

2) if i don't have a subz, does the yammy have the function to mix the subwoofer out to the front channels?

Thanks.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dexterc on Oct 03, 2003 at 10:15 PM
patanong?



2) if i don't have a subz, does the yammy have the function to mix the subwoofer out to the front channels?

Thanks.

Yup pwede mo i set na sa main speakers mo lalabas yung lower frequency na para sa sub..ako din wala pa sub and i am using yamaha
Title: Re:looking for rxv 430 yammy
Post by: MJ-JM on Oct 04, 2003 at 01:56 AM
ok din ba yung RX-V440?  Most stores sell this at 18.5K.  6.1 channel ito eh.  Would it match the NSP236 speakers?  I'm super new to this and would appreciate some insights.  Thanks!

i bought mine for 15800 sa sights and sound beside spectra sa parksquare
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dingsky on Oct 04, 2003 at 07:49 AM
TO HTNOVICE----

Pre, i am also planning to buy that same model iyong rx-v440 and ns-p236 from yamaha, pero sa listening room (megamall) lang ako nakapagtanong ng price, its about 16,980 for RX-v440 puwede credit card, then NS-p236 eh 11,802 and dvd player dvd-s530 for 8,502. Do you think this is a good price (anyone ...please) kasi i am planning to buy it at the same time on tuesday.

saan pa kaya mas cheaper and price pero brand new siyempre. Could anyone tell me.....please? Thanks!
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on Oct 04, 2003 at 01:57 PM
Nevermind nakuha ko na po.  ;D

Assignable.. right?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on Oct 04, 2003 at 02:02 PM
TO HTNOVICE----

Pre, i am also planning to buy that same model iyong rx-v440 and ns-p236 from yamaha, pero sa listening room (megamall) lang ako nakapagtanong ng price, its about 16,980 for RX-v440 puwede credit card, then NS-p236 eh 11,802 and dvd player dvd-s530 for 8,502. Do you think this is a good price (anyone ...please) kasi i am planning to buy it at the same time on tuesday.

saan pa kaya mas cheaper and price pero brand new siyempre. Could anyone tell me.....please? Thanks!

Receiver and the dvd player are fine, just choose another set of speakers like wharfedale diamond 8 series.

Check other A/V shop at Makati, Yam 440 is cheaper there, if you want diamonds, check nerley's merchandise..
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dingsky on Oct 04, 2003 at 05:20 PM
oh thank you for that information. do you have any contact numbers?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on Oct 04, 2003 at 05:26 PM
oh thank you for that information. do you have any contact numbers?

http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=11;action=display;threadid=1784
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dingsky on Oct 04, 2003 at 05:30 PM
Thanks, galing mo talaga bro...iyong diamond eh what model kaya ang puwede av receiver ko na rx-v440?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on Oct 04, 2003 at 05:40 PM
Diamond 8.1, diamond 8c
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MJ-JM on Oct 06, 2003 at 01:32 PM
Hi all,

tulong lang po. I am using rx-440 with wharf 8.4, center and atlantic 200 for surrounds. the problem is, unlike my old receiver (pioneer 511S), buo yung bass na nanggagaling sa 8.4. ngayon sa yammy medyo manipis kahit iset ko na sa +10db yung bass. Medyo nagkaron lang nang iset ko yung impedance from 8ohm to 4 ohm. okay lang po ba ito or will this setting damage the speaker and receiver. medyo naging evident yung kalansing ng yamaha eh.

Any comments po.

Regards,
HTNovice
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Oct 06, 2003 at 01:41 PM
try mo i-set yung fronts mo to large
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MJ-JM on Oct 06, 2003 at 01:43 PM
try mo i-set yung fronts mo to large

sir, naka set na po to large yung fronts ko.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: obey on Oct 06, 2003 at 03:50 PM
Try mo set yung Dynamic Range (D. Range) sa MAX.  .  BTW, may subwoofer ka ba?  Kung wala i-set mo yung 1D Bass mo sa Main.  Baka makatulong ang mga ito sa bass reproduction ng amp mo.  Good Luck!
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: shine on Oct 06, 2003 at 04:24 PM
try mo ring i-check binding post nang wharf mo, baka maluwag lang yung LF niya at sa HF lang siya nakakabit.

setting din nang 1D Bass gaya nang sabi ni obey.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Oct 06, 2003 at 04:31 PM
HTNovice,

makes me wonder, dapat malakas ang bass niyan since 8.4 yung gamit mo.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MJ-JM on Oct 06, 2003 at 04:37 PM
Sir obey,
nakaset na po sa Max yung D. Range. wala pa po ko sub. nicocompare ko kasi yung bass ng wharf sa pioneer at yamaha receivers. sa pioneer ko talagang buo eh, unlike sa yamaha, parang half lang ng bass ng sa pioneer. di ba kaya idrive ng 440 ang 8.4?

Sir 4mm,
same binding post ng pioneer at yamaha. yung neg at positive nakalagay pareho sa HF. di ko tinanggal yung gold plated na nagkoconnect sa LF at HF.

So di po kayo agree sa ginawa ko na niSet ko to 4 ohms yung impedance ng receiver?

Thanks,
HTNovice
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MJ-JM on Oct 06, 2003 at 04:38 PM
try mo ring i-check binding post nang wharf mo, baka maluwag lang yung LF niya at sa HF lang siya nakakabit.

Sir, banana plug po pala gamit ko. sana makatulong.

Thanks
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Oct 07, 2003 at 12:59 AM
Hi all,

tulong lang po. I am using rx-440 with wharf 8.4, center and atlantic 200 for surrounds. the problem is, unlike my old receiver (pioneer 511S), buo yung bass na nanggagaling sa 8.4. ngayon sa yammy medyo manipis kahit iset ko na sa +10db yung bass. Medyo nagkaron lang nang iset ko yung impedance from 8ohm to 4 ohm. okay lang po ba ito or will this setting damage the speaker and receiver. medyo naging evident yung kalansing ng yamaha eh.

Any comments po.

Regards,
HTNovice

bro,  nung binili mo ba yung receiver were you able to audition it first using the same speaker models? ano yung performance niya if you were able to aution it first?

na try mo ibi-wire?  minsan kasi lumuluwag yung gold plates niyan, try to re-install the 8.4's connecting plates dahil baka lumuwag then switch the cables to the LF binding posts.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MJ-JM on Oct 07, 2003 at 09:47 AM
bro,  nung binili mo ba yung receiver were you able to audition it first using the same speaker models? ano yung performance niya if you were able to aution it first?

na try mo ibi-wire?  minsan kasi lumuluwag yung gold plates niyan, try to re-install the 8.4's connecting plates dahil baka lumuwag then switch the cables to the LF binding posts.

yes sir, naaudition ko naman kaya lang using 8.3. mas gusto ko yung tunog nito kaysa denon 1603, medyo bright nung ni audition ko... pero sa setup ko di naman. nging bright lang nung niset ko sa 4ohms... bakit kaya?.. will try your suggestion. siguro dahil generic na 12g lang cable na gamit ko...  ???

btw, pwede po ba lagyan ng sand ang 8.4? pano po? will this void warranty?

thanks.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Dime_Licker on Oct 07, 2003 at 01:09 PM
Receiver and the dvd player are fine, just choose another set of speakers like wharfedale diamond 8 series.

Check other A/V shop at Makati, Yam 440 is cheaper there, if you want diamonds, check nerley's merchandise..

hi philander -- what's not good about the NSP236?  im also getting the rxv440, and planning to pair it with the nsp236 -- due to size constraints, i am limited to small center and side speakers.  if nsp236, can u recommend a similarly-sized set?

thanks!!!
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Oct 07, 2003 at 01:30 PM
hi philander -- what's not good about the NSP236?  im also getting the rxv440, and planning to pair it with the nsp236 -- due to size constraints, i am limited to small center and side speakers.  if nsp236, can u recommend a similarly-sized set?

thanks!!!

i would suggest to follow bos phil's advise.  "bang for the buck", everyone will go for diamond 8
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on Oct 07, 2003 at 01:58 PM
hi philander -- what's not good about the NSP236?  im also getting the rxv440, and planning to pair it with the nsp236 -- due to size constraints, i am limited to small center and side speakers.  
thanks!!!

Okay.

I'll try...

First, the goods about NSP236:
1. Low price for the 6.1 system
2. 100% sure on tonal and timbre matching
3. Stylish (subjective)

Bads:
1. Plastic encosure (ooohhh NO!)
2. Size of the main driver is only 2" (full range? I doubt)
3. No tweeter
4. Bass and LFE are redirected to subwoofer
5. Main speakers are not acceptable to be stand alone without the subwoofer (tunog lata.. mapa music or movies). 2" driver? Magproproduce ng low freq?


With Wharfs or any related bookshelves..
You can have woofer/midrange range driver with tweeter. True full range (maybe not 20 to 20Khz but at least from 50 to 20Khz). Can stand alone without the help of the subwoofer. More elegant looking.

You can mix and match any speakers you want (but be sure your front and center are in the same brand and series). You  can have more powerful subwoofer.

But then again its your choice, you have limited space... 8.1 is not that big.

Quote
can u recommend a similarly-sized set?

Klipsch ProMedia or quintet series.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: obey on Oct 07, 2003 at 09:26 PM
HTNovice,

Di kaya hirap lang talaga i-drive ng yamaha mo yung 8.4?  Pero ang nakapagtataka eh di ba dapat high-current model na ang rxv-440?

Balitaan mo na lang kami kung maayos mo problema.

Good Luck!
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: tamulmol on Oct 07, 2003 at 09:55 PM
mga bro, help naman.  Nabili ko kasi yung Yammy 430 ni Chronic mga three weeks ago, kaso gamit ko lang sya puro tuner.  Tapos ngayon ko lang kinabit sa DVD player kasi ngayon lang ako nakalipat ng haus.  Sa Music walang problema.

5.1 ang spkr na gamit ko 8.3, dfs8 diamond center plus us audio 8".  

Question lang.  pag kasi left and right audio (ordinary rca) lang ang gamit ko pag nanood ako sa player gumagana ang spkr kaya lang pag coaxial cable na gamit ko (digital audio in/out) walang output ang spkr.  OK naman po ang coaxial cable na gamit ko (not open/shorted).  Pioneer 266 ang gamit ko.  OK din naman ang setting nya.

Also, narereset ho ba ang memory ng yamaha para bang back to factory settings ulit.

tnx.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Oct 08, 2003 at 02:20 AM
mga bro, help naman.  Nabili ko kasi yung Yammy 430 ni Chronic mga three weeks ago, kaso gamit ko lang sya puro tuner.  Tapos ngayon ko lang kinabit sa DVD player kasi ngayon lang ako nakalipat ng haus.  Sa Music walang problema.

5.1 ang spkr na gamit ko 8.3, dfs8 diamond center plus us audio 8".  

Question lang.  pag kasi left and right audio (ordinary rca) lang ang gamit ko pag nanood ako sa player gumagana ang spkr kaya lang pag coaxial cable na gamit ko (digital audio in/out) walang output ang spkr.  OK naman po ang coaxial cable na gamit ko (not open/shorted).  Pioneer 266 ang gamit ko.  OK din naman ang setting nya.

Also, narereset ho ba ang memory ng yamaha para bang back to factory settings ulit.

tnx.

try re assigning your I/O assignments on coaxial in for coaxial input jacks.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: tamulmol on Oct 08, 2003 at 04:22 AM
Tnx, kimpao.  Ngayon ko nga lang din nabasa yung manual ang hopefuly pag-uwi ko this will work na.  By default pala kasi yung coaxial ko naka-assign sa CD and not for DVD.  Tnx again pare ko for the concern.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MJ-JM on Oct 08, 2003 at 12:38 PM
HTNovice,

Di kaya hirap lang talaga i-drive ng yamaha mo yung 8.4?  Pero ang nakapagtataka eh di ba dapat high-current model na ang rxv-440?

Balitaan mo na lang kami kung maayos mo problema.

Good Luck!

Sir Obey,

Sinunod ko yung payo ni Sir Kimpao, medyo nagkaroon na ng bass pero lutang pa rin yung Mid at Hi unlike sa Pioneer VSX-d511 ko dati. Siguro dahil nasa break-in stage pa lang yung receiver. Kung di talaga kaya idrive 8.4 baka magsettle na lang ako sa pagbili ng sub.  :-\
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Dime_Licker on Oct 08, 2003 at 01:05 PM
i would suggest to follow bos phil's advise.  "bang for the buck", everyone will go for diamond 8

how much po average price ng diamond 8?  any idea sa dimensions ng side speakers niya?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Oct 08, 2003 at 01:16 PM
depends on what model you're looking at (8.1, 8.2, 8.3, 8.4).   bro, checkout nelrey's thread in assorted buy and sell.  mura yung mga item's niya.  pm mo nalang siya coz' he does'nt usually post his pricing

when you say side speakers i'll assume that you're talking about the front's, right?  anyway, any of the 4 diamond 8 models can be used for fronts.  depends on how big the room you're gonna use it in.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Oct 08, 2003 at 01:30 PM
Sir Obey,

Sinunod ko yung payo ni Sir Kimpao, medyo nagkaroon na ng bass pero lutang pa rin yung Mid at Hi unlike sa Pioneer VSX-d511 ko dati. Siguro dahil nasa break-in stage pa lang yung receiver. Kung di talaga kaya idrive 8.4 baka magsettle na lang ako sa pagbili ng sub.  :-\

bro, ano settings mo on the following categories ng receiver?

       a.) unit setting for speaker systems
       b.) speaker level setting
       c.) speaker set
       d.) sp distance
       e.) LFE level
        f.) d. range
       g.) center geq
       h.) zone set

were you able to go over the manuals, thoroughly.

  :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: obey on Oct 08, 2003 at 02:25 PM
HTNovice,

Yan yata talaga ang isang characteristic ng sound ng yamaha receivers, upfront ang sound and medyo nasa bright side.  Mas pang HT naman kasi talaga ang AVRs ng yamaha.  Yan ang forte nila lalo na ang DSPs.  
Sa 2 ch stereo medyo manipis (kulang ang bass) talaga ang sound niya pero kung movies naman ang pag-uusapan ay hindi talaga magpapatalo ang yamaha :D
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MJ-JM on Oct 08, 2003 at 05:47 PM
bro, ano settings mo on the following categories ng receiver?

       a.) unit setting for speaker systems
       b.) speaker level setting
       c.) speaker set
       d.) sp distance
       e.) LFE level
        f.) d. range
       g.) center geq
       h.) zone set

were you able to go over the manuals, thoroughly.

  :)
Sir,

Heto setting ng receiver.

       a.) unit setting for speaker systems - L
       b.) speaker level setting - 0 all speakers
       c.) speaker set - 5
       d.) sp distance - I forgot
       e.) LFE level - 0
        f.) d. range - Max
       g.) center geq - 0 lahat
       h.) zone set - main (tama ba?)

Nabasa ko na po buong manual... pero di ko pa natatry na loud ang volume. since nibebreak in ko pa yung receiver. Yung speaker nagperform na ko ng rapid break-in for 18 hrs.

Regards,
HTNovice
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Oct 08, 2003 at 06:37 PM
Sir,

Heto setting ng receiver.

       a.) unit setting for speaker systems - L
       b.) speaker level setting - 0 all speakers
       c.) speaker set - 5
       d.) sp distance - I forgot
       e.) LFE level - 0
        f.) d. range - Max
       g.) center geq - 0 lahat
       h.) zone set - main (tama ba?)

Nabasa ko na po buong manual... pero di ko pa natatry na loud ang volume. since nibebreak in ko pa yung receiver. Yung speaker nagperform na ko ng rapid break-in for 18 hrs.

Regards,
HTNovice


bro, try mo i-set sa main yung bass dun sa SET MENU and see kung ano yung results.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: LtCool on Oct 09, 2003 at 09:45 AM
Mga bro, I bought my yammy 640 yesterday for 24,450 at Amba Park Square 1, can I pair it with wharf Zaldek series? I believe yammies are good in HT but lacks in music, would the Zaldek balance the proportion of music and movies, since Zaldek's are known to be boomy. Or should I get the Diamonds. Gurus please advice.


Thanks,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MJ-JM on Oct 09, 2003 at 10:17 AM
Sir Kimpao,

Nakaset na po sa Main yung Bass since day one.  :)
The good news is after bi-wiring my fronts using generic 12G for LF and a generic wire (dont know) for the HF then setting the bass control to +10. gumanda na ang tunog. acceptable na po sa akin.  ;D

Hingi na lang po ko ng suggestions on what wires to use, pero sa tingin ko OT na iyon.

Maraming salamat mga sirs sa tulong.

Cheers,
HTNovice
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile on Oct 09, 2003 at 12:33 PM
Mga bro, I bought my yammy 640 yesterday for 24,450 at Amba Park Square 1, can I pair it with wharf Zaldek series? I believe yammies are good in HT but lacks in music, would the Zaldek balance the proportion of music and movies, since Zaldek's are known to be boomy. Or should I get the Diamonds. Gurus please advice.

Thanks,
-LtCool-

I have no qualms that either Wharf models can sound well with your Yamaha.  But let me just offer my thoughts on your choices.  

The diamond series are well reviewed and given excellent Best-Buy-for-the-price ratings by many reviewers and organizations as an outstanding entry-level speakers for hi-fi.  Construction-wise, the built is solid and very professional.

Admittedly the Zaldek line has great sensitivity at 90db and appears more attractive with their signature blue speakers and horn-loaded mids and highs.  Just by looking at it, i have some reservtions on the horn structure which does not seem to conform to the ideal shape and curvatures that a horn loaded speaker should. (Suggest you compare it with a Klipsch Horn-loaded speaker)  And they use ordinary polypropelene cones which are nowhere near as good as kevlar cones in the diamond line.  I have yet to read a good professional reveiw of the Zaldek line, but I read a consumer review somewhere it's a good choice for rock music.  And i notice they sport single spring clip terminals (not the double audiophile grade gold-plated banana types that the diamond uses). so you can forget about bi-wiring (which is good for some).

Should be obvious which one I'd pick anytime. Butomline, do audition them and let your ears decide.  Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: LtCool on Oct 09, 2003 at 03:22 PM
thanks av_phile, i'm considering those factors too. I think I should audition them. By the way where can I audition both speakers with the yammy 640.

Thanks,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile on Oct 09, 2003 at 05:30 PM
I think those AV shops at Park Square carry both wharf lines.  Just not sure if they have Yamahas in the same shop.  But some shops there also cary yammies.  Maybe you could just bring your receiver there.  
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MJ-JM on Oct 09, 2003 at 05:34 PM
may mga nakadisplay sa parksquare na wharfs. siguro dahil sa bpi madness uli. you can check it there, meron din yamaha don.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: LtCool on Oct 09, 2003 at 05:43 PM
thanks guys will check out their shops.

Thanks,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: triplex on Oct 10, 2003 at 10:00 AM
on the rxv 530, talaga bang dalawa ang ang SW volume adjustment? yung isa eh SUB volume level, tapos meron pang LFE adjustment. or is there a difference between the two?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MJ-JM on Oct 10, 2003 at 10:10 AM
Question po on singapore model of 440. Nakabili kasi ko nito sa Premiere Sights and Sound sa park square eh. narealize ko na singapore model pala after a week (230V 50hz). Ok lang ba na gamitin dito sa atin or dapat ko ba papalitan sa kanila?

Regards,
HTNovice
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Oct 10, 2003 at 10:53 AM
Question po on singapore model of 440. Nakabili kasi ko nito sa Premiere Sights and Sound sa park square eh. narealize ko na singapore model pala after a week (230V 50hz). Ok lang ba na gamitin dito sa atin or dapat ko ba papalitan sa kanila?

Regards,
HTNovice

Pre, based ka rin ba dito sa Singapore? Magkano score mo at bakit 50hz lang?  Ang nakikita kong Yamaha 440 dito ay both 50/60hz ah.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MJ-JM on Oct 10, 2003 at 11:19 AM
Pre, based ka rin ba dito sa Singapore? Magkano score mo at bakit 50hz lang?  Ang nakikita kong Yamaha 440 dito ay both 50/60hz ah.


Sir,

Di po, pinas lang ako. kaya lang yung nabili ko sa Sights and sound sa park square puro singapore/europe model (230V 50hz at di banana plug).

Called them up kanina. hanap daw sila ng 60hz kung wala makita change ako ng brand  :(

Regards,
HTNovice
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: busabos on Oct 10, 2003 at 11:33 AM
yun sakin eh hindi din banana plugs and siguro 50Hz din,  what's the problem if it's 50Hz and not 60 Hz?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MJ-JM on Oct 10, 2003 at 11:41 AM
yun sakin eh hindi din banana plugs and siguro 50Hz din,  what's the problem if it's 50Hz and not 60 Hz?

oo nga po. mga guru dapat ba itong maging cause ng ano mang issues? dapat ba kami mag-alala.

siguro ako, hanggang pwede papalitan, sige lang para magkaroon ako ng peace of mind ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Oct 10, 2003 at 11:46 AM
mga bro,  this has something to do with the power supply rating, i think ::),  i guess a good avr should solve the problem.  

HTNovice,  try stripping both cables a bit longer yung end na ikakabit mo sa receiver then twist them together.  :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: busabos on Oct 10, 2003 at 11:53 AM
oo nga po. mga guru dapat ba itong maging cause ng ano mang issues? dapat ba kami mag-alala.

siguro ako, hanggang pwede papalitan, sige lang para magkaroon ako ng peace of mind ;D

Bro if I wer you wag mo na papalitan I guess ganun talaga characteristics ng yammy's, mine is 640 pero di din sya malakas bumayo sa music pero for movies ok na din.  If you set your fronts to small halos walang bayo talaga pero if large ok na, if your into movies ur good with yamaha pero if you also consider music medyo pagisipan mo muna kung kaya mong pagtyagaan na yun sound nya for music if not get another brand like Denon or onkyo.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MJ-JM on Oct 10, 2003 at 12:38 PM
Bro if I wer you wag mo na papalitan I guess ganun talaga characteristics ng yammy's, mine is 640 pero di din sya malakas bumayo sa music pero for movies ok na din.  If you set your fronts to small halos walang bayo talaga pero if large ok na, if your into movies ur good with yamaha pero if you also consider music medyo pagisipan mo muna kung kaya mong pagtyagaan na yun sound nya for music if not get another brand like Denon or onkyo.

Sir, actually ok na sa akin yung yammy ko for my music. sagad lang yung bass sa +10. naging concern ko lang is yung 50hz ng receiver ko. I asked sights and sound if they have yung pang pinas talaga. Natry ko yung 1603. warmer ang sound compared sa music pero sa ht parang kulang sa clarity (or is it just me).

Thanks for the info.

Pero i feel like sticking to yammy kaysa iba brand.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: levi on Oct 10, 2003 at 05:38 PM
Anyone would like to bring their yamaha Receiver for the eb tom?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: tamulmol on Oct 13, 2003 at 09:10 PM
I agree that Yamaha are not good in music.  It is only now that I started to realize that it does not perform well when I am playing music with my Yammy 430.  But if we are going to talk about movies, it's the best.  

Sana iba na lang binili ko...OOngi...
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MJ-JM on Oct 14, 2003 at 09:45 AM
well, i gave up my yamaha 440 for an onkyo 501. so far happy naman for the music. movies.. ok na din since I dont you any DSPs when I watch. super init nga lang pero sarap  ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile on Oct 14, 2003 at 11:46 AM
I share in your enthusiasm for Onkyo.  Have been a long-time user of this brand.  Kahit sirain, onkyo pa rin. ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: LtCool on Oct 14, 2003 at 11:57 AM
Try setting your yammies in Prologic II when listening to music, or check if your DSPs are set to music/cinema.

guys it's only my opinion.

I tried the main pre-outs of my 640 with the altec lansing amplified pc speaker mahina talaga yung signal kalangan ko pang i-adjust yung volume up to -70db to hear audible sound and -40db to hear loud enough sounds coming from the altec. (I tried the setup na walang ibang speaker na naka connect kundi yung altec lang and naka max na yung volume ng altec speaker). But when I used prologic 2 nag improve yung sound.

I'm comparing the output when connecting the speaker directly to a DVD player or a PC.

again it's just my opinion.

Cheers,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jofkevski on Oct 14, 2003 at 02:00 PM
Try setting your yammies in Prologic II when listening to music, or check if your DSPs are set to music/cinema.

guys it's only my opinion.

I tried the main pre-outs of my 640 with the altec lansing amplified pc speaker mahina talaga yung signal kalangan ko pang i-adjust yung volume up to -70db to hear audible sound and -40db to hear loud enough sounds coming from the altec. (I tried the setup na walang ibang speaker na naka connect kundi yung altec lang and naka max na yung volume ng altec speaker). But when I used prologic 2 nag improve yung sound.

I'm comparing the output when connecting the speaker directly to a DVD player or a PC.

again it's just my opinion.

Cheers,
-LtCool-

Sir, if you will get output from pre-out, sumasabay yan sa volume control. It is more realistic to get your output from TAPE OUT (REC) of your Yamaha for input to altec lansing. Ito, sa tingin ko, ang ka-level ng PC output mo. And no need to adjust anything on Yamaha, kahit MUTE pa ang volume ng Yamaha mo.

My 630 is not really loud - as in thumping bass sound. I ran into many placement scenario with 8.3 with my 630. What I have now is what I think could be the best in the market - value and performance. I found out thru experimentation that 8.1 and yammy are good partners - yammy giving good bass material (also mid & high) to the 8.1. So I enjoy music and HT on 630 using 8.1, bass treble, and midrange. 8.1 for 4.7k/pair and 630 for 17k. 8.3 might not be for Yammy. This might be true with my listening room though.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MJ-JM on Oct 14, 2003 at 04:48 PM
I share in your enthusiasm for Onkyo.  Have been a long-time user of this brand.  Kahit sirain, onkyo pa rin. ;D

sir medyo OT, ano kadalasang problema ng Onkyo?

thanks
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: tamulmol on Oct 14, 2003 at 09:20 PM
Ako when I am using CD's I really set my Yammy to Pro Logic II but still ganon pa rin di pa rin ako ganong satisfied.  I am using 8.3 as my fronts.  Pinagiisipan ko nga kung i-trade ko tong Yammy ko to other brand....
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Oct 14, 2003 at 10:58 PM
Ako when I am using CD's I really set my Yammy to Pro Logic II but still ganon pa rin di pa rin ako ganong satisfied.  I am using 8.3 as my fronts.  Pinagiisipan ko nga kung i-trade ko tong Yammy ko to other brand....

na break-in na ba yung wharfs mo? is this pre-owned or brand new nung nakuha mo?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: tamulmol on Oct 15, 2003 at 05:16 AM
negative pa, still on the process of break-in pa yung wharfs ko.  brand new siya almost a month ko na siya nabili.  Pero kahit bago pa lang makikita mo na talaga ang diffirence ng Yammy from movie to music.  Kasi pag movie naman gamit ko satisfied ako sa tunog ng set-up ko....OOngi...
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: indridcold on Oct 15, 2003 at 10:29 AM
Before you give up on your yammies, try to introduce acoustic solutions to your room The common "reklamo" with yamaha kasi is that when used for music its "too bright". Try using absorptive materials in your room e.g. carpet, curtain, books, acoustic pads available at true value. Sayang kasi maganda talaga yamaha for movies so baka ma remedyohan pa yung musical capabilities nya if you think its lacking.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Oct 15, 2003 at 10:51 AM
tamulmol,

have tried bi-wiring and sand tweak for your wharfs? sand tweak can increase bass for your  8.3
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: LtCool on Oct 15, 2003 at 10:52 AM
Sir, if you will get output from pre-out, sumasabay yan sa volume control. It is more realistic to get your output from TAPE OUT (REC) of your Yamaha for input to altec lansing. Ito, sa tingin ko, ang ka-level ng PC output mo. And no need to adjust anything on Yamaha, kahit MUTE pa ang volume ng Yamaha mo.


Thanks bro, I'll check it out if ka level nga ng volume ng pc sound cards yung out ng rec1/rec2 (im using Winamp with DFX on PC kasi)

Thanks,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: LtCool on Oct 15, 2003 at 10:59 AM
tamulmol,

I agree with kimpao, try bi-wiring. and also consider the suggestion of indridcold.

Cheers,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: obey on Oct 15, 2003 at 11:15 AM
Try nyo rin muna i-fine tune yung settings ng DPL2.  Meron siyang adjustment for PANORAMA, CT Width, and Dimension.  Ang panorama ay pwedeng i-switch on or off.  Para sa wrap around effect yata ito.  Ang CT Width naman ay para mabalanse mo ang sound ng LR main speakers and center channel.  Ang Dimension naman ay pang adjust ng level ng surround channels relative sa fronts.  Try niyo tingnan sa manual.  Pag na-adjust niyo ito I'm sure mas magiging kuntento kayo sa performance ng DPL2.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: tamulmol on Oct 15, 2003 at 09:17 PM
OK i'll try your suggestions mga bro.  Cguro pag music pagtyagaan ko muna yung mini-compo ko then pagka nagka budget baka bili na lang ako ng another ampli for my music....Gastos OOnggi...
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Oct 15, 2003 at 11:03 PM
OK i'll try your suggestions mga bro.  Cguro pag music pagtyagaan ko muna yung mini-compo ko then pagka nagka budget baka bili na lang ako ng another ampli for my music....Gastos OOnggi...

tamulmol

sent u pm
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: tamulmol on Oct 15, 2003 at 11:09 PM
kimpao, answered your PM.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: obey on Oct 16, 2003 at 12:47 AM
BTW, anong gamit niyong connection from DVD player papuntang receiver?  Gamit ko kasi, ung coax input.  Cheers!
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: triplex on Oct 16, 2003 at 11:11 AM
coax gamit ko, read from one of the threads that its much cheaper and if youre not not miticulous, ok na to as compared to optic cables.  Though syempre pagnaka pera will also try to get one of those fiber optics cables. :) btw, my coax cable is DIY 75 ohm.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 16, 2003 at 12:22 PM
Triplex,

For me mas ok ang Coax than Optical mas matalas sound ng optical pre..
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Oct 16, 2003 at 12:28 PM
hans, any suggestion on what type or brand to use for coax?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 16, 2003 at 12:45 PM
Kimpao,

Sorry pre... wla akong alam na brand..  but I used custom made Ixos coax.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Oct 16, 2003 at 12:50 PM
thanks bro,  scout around nalang ako sa makati mamaya. ahehehehe ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sayad5 on Oct 16, 2003 at 01:13 PM
mga bro,

ok ba ang rxv540 with ns7390 and ns70 pangvideoke?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: james16 on Oct 16, 2003 at 01:22 PM
Triplex,

For me mas ok ang Coax than Optical mas matalas sound ng optical pre..

i agree  ;)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: indridcold on Oct 16, 2003 at 03:53 PM
DIY coax. You can get the cable and jacks sa Makati Cinema Square Tech Central. I also use the same for sub to receiver connection.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: obey on Oct 16, 2003 at 07:46 PM
You can also try radio shack interconnects.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: tamulmol on Oct 17, 2003 at 12:01 AM
yehey buti na lang coax din ang gamit ko sa audio and sub ko.OOngii.....
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: triplex on Oct 17, 2003 at 04:48 PM
yung nakakabit nga pala na cables sa oto ko from the head unit to the ampli fo my subs, makapal na colored blue cables. hmmmm. . . pwede, mahaba pa yung sobra nun.  i think this will work better. ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: LtCool on Oct 23, 2003 at 12:41 PM
Who have tried using Speaker Set A and B of their receiver simultaneously? Any comment would be highly appreciated.

Thanks,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 23, 2003 at 12:46 PM
Ltcool,

YOu mean simultaneous na naka ON?? mag clip yun sir.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: LtCool on Oct 23, 2003 at 12:56 PM
Yeah, i'm just thinkin na two sets are ON without utilizing it's max power, Using a bookshelf 8.1s ie -50dB lang would it clip pa ba? receiver power is 125w @ 6ohms

Thanks,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: johnlen on Oct 23, 2003 at 01:22 PM
ltcol bossing,

for 2 channel listening i think using both A and B speakers would negatively affect stereo imaging and soundsatge that is, if you are a serous 2 channel music listener.  
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: johnlen on Oct 23, 2003 at 01:26 PM
also remember that using A and B speakers at the same time would not mean higher output power (mas malakas na tunog). more often than not the amp/receiver would thend to be overdriven in this configuration.

most of the amp/receiver with A and B speaker output are intended to provide an easy hookup options for users who has 2 different sets of speakers for hookup convinience. the listener then have the option to easyly select the speaker he would wnat to listen to at a time (not at the same time).

just my 2 cents.    
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: LtCool on Oct 23, 2003 at 01:52 PM
the setup would power both Sets in diff room? ie sa sala and sa kwarto? and all other speaker channels are off, just the fronts lang yung powered? would it be an overdrive if hangang -50dB lang yung volume?

Thanks,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Gibson78 on Oct 30, 2003 at 05:21 PM
Tulong naman mga kapatid. Naghahanap ako ng shop na nagbebenta ng rxv440 na nag aacept ng credit card. Yung mga nasa shang at yupangco eh 18+K ang bentahan nila, pero nakakaita naman ako ng 15K lang dun sa park square - yun nga lang ayaw nila or wala silang pa card. Paturo naman sana ng magandang shop. Haaayyy...
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: tamulmol on Oct 30, 2003 at 05:24 PM
try mo pare sa listening room, meron silang mga yammies doon and they accept cards kaya lang patest mong maiigi kasi medyo mahirap magsoli doon....OOngi...
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Gibson78 on Oct 30, 2003 at 05:38 PM
salamat bro, pero 16,500 daw - balak ko maghintay kung meron silang christmas sale - tignan ko baka bumaba yung presyo. Meron nga ba silang christmas sale? eh, yung mga ibang shops? patimbre na lang mga kapatid - ayus. Salamat.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Bogsle on Oct 30, 2003 at 10:45 PM
I would like to ask for information about the rated "nominal" output for speakers. I bought a pair of Yamah NS 7390 and the specs says 60 watts nominal output and 220 watts maximum output. What does nominal mean in relation to my receiver?

Thanks in advance for anyone who could help.


Bogsle
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: levi on Oct 31, 2003 at 12:37 AM
I would like to ask for information about the rated "nominal" output for speakers. I bought a pair of Yamah NS 7390 and the specs says 60 watts nominal output and 220 watts maximum output. What does nominal mean in relation to my receiver?

Thanks in advance for anyone who could help.


Bogsle

Check this out

Power Rating  (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=15609)
PMPO  (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=8981)
volume level  (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=11352)
max & nomimal input power???  (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=3258)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: LtCool on Nov 02, 2003 at 03:58 AM
salamat bro, pero 16,500 daw - balak ko maghintay kung meron silang christmas sale - tignan ko baka bumaba yung presyo. Meron nga ba silang christmas sale? eh, yung mga ibang shops? patimbre na lang mga kapatid - ayus. Salamat.

Try Ambassador Greenhills, they quoted me 15,900 using BPI Credit card, though I bought a 640 from Amba Park Square.

Cheers,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Gibson78 on Nov 03, 2003 at 09:21 PM
magkano yung kuha mo sa 640 Lt.? toss up kasi ako between a denon 1603 or 1604 and the yamaha 440 - yun nga lang - ika nga ni bob barker - "if the price is right"
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: levi on Nov 03, 2003 at 11:46 PM
Dont base your judgement on price alone, what is important is which receiver is better sounding for you.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Bogsle on Nov 04, 2003 at 12:10 AM
Thanks so much. You've been very helpful.

I need an advice though, hope anyone can help me out. My current setup is the following:

= RX-V440 Receiver
= A pair of Yamaha NS 7390 floor standing speakers, rated at 8 ohms, 220W max, 60W nominal.
= A JBL SCS 178 Center, rated at 4 ohms, 100W max, 25W nominal.

I'm planning to purchase a pair of NS 7390 again for the surround. I'm thinking that making all the 4 speakers (front mains & rear surround) the same would make the matching of sounds much better because of the equal tonal quality of the 4 speakers.

Is is a bad or a good idea? Any suggestions? Please help me because I'm planning to complete my speaker set very soon.

Thanks in advance to all who'll help out.


Bogs







 
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: levi on Nov 04, 2003 at 12:44 AM
IMO, use the Yamaha for the rear and get matching JBL for the front. The center-front matching is more important than the rear. You can change your rear next time. Im not familiar with the JBL but isnt the scs series a set package?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: LtCool on Nov 04, 2003 at 06:31 AM
magkano yung kuha mo sa 640 Lt.? toss up kasi ako between a denon 1603 or 1604 and the yamaha 440 - yun nga lang - ika nga ni bob barker - "if the price is right"

24,950 Cold Cash pag CC siguro you need to add 6%. Yeah Sir Levi is ryt it's your preference, try auditioning before buying, it's better to study/research before opting to buy than buy it and later on your on the auction stand. You can not break-even on this kind of asset and dough is kinda limited nowadays.

Cheers,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Nov 22, 2003 at 12:22 AM
Guys!

Am planning to buy the RXV-1400. Any reviews before I buy?

 :D
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: carreraGT on Nov 23, 2003 at 12:53 AM
Guys!

Am planning to buy the RXV-1400. Any reviews before I buy?

 :D

same question?  :)  im considering this one din.  any ideas kung how much and kung san meron?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Nov 23, 2003 at 01:03 AM
It's 37K at sights and sounds park square. Tinatawaran ko pa sa 35K. Baka makuha natin yun if we r going to buy it sabay. My contact there is Tina. PM me.  ;)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Nov 24, 2003 at 07:52 AM
mga tol how much yamaha rx-v540? 100wx6
same specs sila ng 440 pwera lang sa wattage 95x6 yung 440

noticeable kaya yung diffrence na 5w???
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dingsky on Nov 24, 2003 at 08:15 AM
kimpoy> pre, actually hindi lang iyon ang difference there are a lot of difference sa 440 at 540, one is the digital output of 540 used for recording (MD). Another is the s-video and optical d-tv /cbl. 540 can also convert s-video to composite format through s-video jack.

if you will not be considering these features, and your only concern is the 5-watt difference, I think malakas na ang 440 for a HT setup.

before i buy and avr these are also my choices, pero i have settled  for 440 and so far I am very much satistfied, imagine i always set my volume to -30 dB and napakalas na ng sound (for region1 source).  Pero it's just me. like what pinoydiophiles say, always hear for yourself. :) happy hunting!
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Nov 24, 2003 at 10:05 AM
thanks dingsky,

may q ako, can i play dts discrete 6.1 on my 5.1 player?
mukhang hindi di ba, magiging dts es lang di ba?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dingsky on Nov 24, 2003 at 11:05 AM
Yes, if your source (DVD) is a dts-es 6.1 discrete, just use optical digital output or coax digital output going to your yamaha avr. AVR na bahala mag decode ng digital audio signal. you will notice in your avr that it will display dts-es discrete (of course dvd source should have an encoded dts-es audio track) an you will notice that active speaker indication ay naka-active lahat (rear center active)

I am also using rx-v440 and pioneer dvd player. nakabili ka na ba ng avr at dvd player?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Nov 24, 2003 at 11:16 AM
shopping for a receiver ako,
dvd player is last (2)year(s) model pioneer DV233

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dingsky on Nov 24, 2003 at 11:20 AM
ok sige pre, good luck na lang sa avr hunting! :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Nov 24, 2003 at 11:37 AM
thanks pre,
btw ano speakers mo?

im eyeing gale speakers (see other thread)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dingsky on Nov 24, 2003 at 11:40 AM
bro, wharfdale diamond 8.1 at center tapos wh2 surround at center sa rear.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dingsky on Nov 24, 2003 at 11:42 AM
bro, wharfdale diamond 8.1 at center tapos wh2 surround at center sa rear. check out the thread where i have posted my set-up http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=11;action=display;threadid=1788;start=1120 (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=11;action=display;threadid=1788;start=1120)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Nov 24, 2003 at 12:01 PM
nice pare,
magkano mo nakuha yung 440?
saan?
any idea on the 540?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dingsky on Nov 24, 2003 at 01:42 PM
I bought it together with the diamonds kaya di ko na-estimate kung magkano siya kung bibilin mo individually, sa ambassador ko siya nabili, ok naman sa akin kasi isang beses na gusto kong palitan ang center kasi one side of the speaker is not sheilded, i returned it to them and show them my complain and they replaced it right away.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: james16 on Nov 24, 2003 at 03:08 PM
shopping for a receiver ako,
dvd player is last (2)year(s) model pioneer DV233



ayos yan player mo.. matibay at maasahan... ;D

i should know kasi yan ang gamit ko... heheheh

happy auditioning...

suggestion added: get what sounds best to you that is within your budget... at sana wag mag-isip na mag-upgrade kapag nakarinig ng mas maganda para iwas gastos....  ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Nov 24, 2003 at 03:25 PM
thanks james
kahapon pa lang talaga ako nakapag audition,
kulang ang maghapon

sayang nga lang walang HK2550 sa shangrila kahapon
hindi ko na audition, just yammys, kenwoods,

next week ulit, kung may extra time.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: james16 on Nov 24, 2003 at 03:36 PM
thanks james
kahapon pa lang talaga ako nakapag audition,
kulang ang maghapon

sayang nga lang walang HK2550 sa shangrila kahapon
hindi ko na audition, just yammys, kenwoods,

next week ulit, kung may extra time.

ok yan at wag magmadali... ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 24, 2003 at 05:35 PM
Kimpoy,

Kung HT man ka Yamaha receiver is for you!!!..
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Nov 24, 2003 at 05:41 PM
Kimpoy,

Kung HT man ka Yamaha receiver is for you!!!..

I 2nd the motion. HT, yamaha no doubt about it.  Kung Audio tube amp, syempre! ;D ;D ;D ;D ahehehe.  
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 24, 2003 at 05:43 PM
Idol kimpao,

How your speaker hunting??? hehehe o order na ba talaga???
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Nov 24, 2003 at 05:48 PM
Idol kimpao,

How your speaker hunting??? hehehe o order na ba talaga???

Final na kung ano yung kukunin pero medyo delayed lang dahil ran into trouble, kailangan unahin yung wheels (nasa casa!) baka december pa. :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: losi_phile on Nov 24, 2003 at 06:01 PM
Comparison between three budget AVR from Yamaha (RX-V440), Onkyo and Panasonic :
 
http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=514&page_number=1
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Nov 26, 2003 at 12:28 AM
continuous power ba yung yamaha 440?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Nov 28, 2003 at 09:40 AM
Has anyone here got the RXV-1400?  :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Bogsle on Nov 28, 2003 at 07:18 PM
Guys,

I would like to ask your help as where I could purchase an Sound Presure Level (SPL) Meter.

It is often the recommended tool in most HT sites for balancing the your home theater speakers.

One local HT shop told me it is not available here in the Philippines. Is this true?

If anyone knows of a shop that sells one, please share the information.

Thanks to all.

bogsle
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Narayan on Nov 28, 2003 at 07:28 PM
Guys,

I would like to ask your help as where I could purchase an Sound Presure Level (SPL) Meter.

It is often the recommended tool in most HT sites for balancing the your home theater speakers.

One local HT shop told me it is not available here in the Philippines. Is this true?

If anyone knows of a shop that sells one, please share the information.

Thanks to all.

bogsle

kindly check out radio shack stores in robinson galleria or pasong tamo extension
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Nov 28, 2003 at 07:28 PM
Guys,

I would like to ask your help as where I could purchase an Sound Presure Level (SPL) Meter.

It is often the recommended tool in most HT sites for balancing the your home theater speakers.

One local HT shop told me it is not available here in the Philippines. Is this true?

If anyone knows of a shop that sells one, please share the information.

Thanks to all.

bogsle

try radioshack alimall cubao.  i think this is the only radioshack branch that has it.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Bogsle on Dec 01, 2003 at 02:48 PM
Thanks for all your help.

I will try to look for radioshack in those locations you mentioned.

Bogsle
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Dec 01, 2003 at 08:32 PM
Thanks for all your help.

I will try to look for radioshack in those locations you mentioned.

Bogsle

was able to ask radioshack galleria,  ala sila and sa alimall nalang daw meron.  btw, i think galleria branch of RS is closing down.   :-\
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: T-850 on Dec 02, 2003 at 10:41 AM
guys i need your help regarding my yamaha receiver ASAP!

my right channel has somehow conkED! its producing static sounds..

i tried changing the wires - did not work
connected the left speaker to the right channel output and it produced static too.. that's how i came to the conclusion that the right channel is defective!!!

wat can i do?!!  ???  ???
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wolf666 on Dec 02, 2003 at 11:20 AM
Has anyone here got the RXV-1400?  :)

I have a 1 month old RXV-1400. My old receiver (Marantz SR7300) was sold to Akyatbundok (fellow Pinoy DVD member).
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: akyatbundok on Dec 02, 2003 at 12:02 PM
I have a 1 month old RXV-1400. My old receiver (Marantz SR7300) was sold to Akyatbundok (fellow Pinoy DVD member).

yup!  that's me... nice deal too!  good to see you're back in the forum wolf666.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wolf666 on Dec 02, 2003 at 01:02 PM
yup!  that's me... nice deal too!  good to see you're back in the forum wolf666.

akyat,
I finally bought my receiver replacement (RXV1400). Initially thinking of NAD 762 or Marantz SR7400 but after I heard the 1400, I was sold to it. It is a step down (but not much) from both SR7400 and T762 in 2 channel audio but it is miles ahead in HT (only my personal opinion).  The YPAO is really fantastic. I am totally not using my RadioShack SPL anymore, hehehe.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Dec 02, 2003 at 02:01 PM
Hi Wolf,

Am considering buying the RXV-1400 this week. Just curious, how much did it cost u and where did u bought it. Thanks
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wolf666 on Dec 02, 2003 at 05:16 PM
Hi Wolf,

Am considering buying the RXV-1400 this week. Just curious, how much did it cost u and where did u bought it. Thanks

e1kad2,
Binili ko dito sa Singapore. Price is Sgd1,100. Around Php35,200 when converted.
You wont regret this beast pare. I almost bought the 2400 but after auditioning both, I cannot justify the price difference kaya 1400 ang binili ko. Ang difference nila is about Php4,000.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Dec 03, 2003 at 10:25 AM
Wolf,
what speakers are you using?
just bough a yammy receiver. i dont have a speakers yet. thanks



also,
 why is that yamaha floorstanders are not popular?
aren't they a good match for yamaha receivers?

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: johnlen on Dec 03, 2003 at 11:32 AM
KimPoy,

True, Yamaha speakers in general are not popular in the mass market arena, but do not discount the quality of their sound especially the NS models.

The Yamaha NS300 for example (same configuration as the Wharf 8.4) is a killer pero killer din ang presyo.

Also ask akyatbundok about the legendary Yamaha NS1000 which is a very hot and most sought after vintage speaker on the net!

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Dec 03, 2003 at 11:37 AM
oic, mahal pala sila.
any idea on the
ns150?
ns200?
ns center 300?
ns center 200?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wolf666 on Dec 03, 2003 at 12:12 PM
Wolf,
what speakers are you using?
just bough a yammy receiver. i dont have a speakers yet. thanks

kimpOy,
I am using KEF speakers. Q1 (mains) + Q9c (center) + Cresta2 (surround). I plan on doing 7.1 and when that happens, I am thinking of Q7 as mains. I just need SVS subwoofer after that. (Q7 and SVS subwoofer are just my plan but I don't think my wife will approve them, hehehe)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: cousin skeeter on Dec 03, 2003 at 12:15 PM
wolf,

u gona get SVS subs? da*n man! those subs rock!!! post your reviews nman if ever you get one :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: akyatbundok on Dec 03, 2003 at 12:59 PM
Also ask akyatbundok about the legendary Yamaha NS1000 which is a very hot and most sought after vintage speaker on the net!

sigh... for a 20yr old speaker, it sounds sublime bro, if only i had a car then i would have bought it on the spot... too big for me to carry alone, so i waited 2 weeks till somebody with car could accompany me... ayan tuloy naunahan.

there's a new EF line you can audition at Listening in Style in shangrila.  the cabinet is finished in glossy black piano.  you may want to audition the ns-555, its connected to a yamaha rxv-1400 receiver.

here's the pricing:

ns-777 - P26,200 floorstander w/ dual 8" woofer 5" mid
ns-555 - P20,500 floorstander w/ dual 6" woofer 5" mid
ns-333 - P9,750 bookshelf w/ 5" mid
ns-444 - P6,950 center w/ dual 5" mid
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: johnlen on Dec 03, 2003 at 01:16 PM
wolf,

i too was using kef (Q15.2) as my front before until the right speaker conk out kasi ang lakas ko magpatugtug hu hu hu. . . sayang ganda pa naman ng imaging because of it's single point source technology!

the remaining unit is now my center spkr and my fronts are now the wharf 8.4




 
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Dec 03, 2003 at 01:43 PM
yikes pricey nga talaga ang yammy speakers

anyone auditioned
NS8390 and NS7390
(http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/products/ht/img/ns8390_s.gif)(http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/products/ht/img/ns7390cuf_s.gif)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Dec 03, 2003 at 05:48 PM
Hi Wolf,

Thanks for the info. I'll be getting the RXV-1400 d2 sa Sights n Sound Park Square tomorrow. Bgay sakin 36K...pwede na cguro yun...by the way, anong gamit mong cable papuntang DVD? Optical o coax? Which is better?

Thanks ;)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wolf666 on Dec 03, 2003 at 06:05 PM
wolf,

i too was using kef (Q15.2) as my front before until the right speaker conk out kasi ang lakas ko magpatugtug hu hu hu. . . sayang ganda pa naman ng imaging because of it's single point source technology!

the remaining unit is now my center spkr and my fronts are now the wharf 8.4

johnlen,
hindi ko na na abutan yung Q15.2 but am sure maganda rin yung sound nya kasi Uni-Q din ang gamit.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wolf666 on Dec 03, 2003 at 06:09 PM
wolf,

u gona get SVS subs? da*n man! those subs rock!!! post your reviews nman if ever you get one :)

matatagalan pa siguro bago ako bumili ng svs. kinukulit pa ako ni misis na bumili ng bahay... at hindi siya papayag na maunang mabuo yung HT equipments ko bago bahay, hehehe.

i am planning on auditioning svs with some friends of mine here (singapore). let you know my comments after that.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Dec 03, 2003 at 06:17 PM
matatagalan pa siguro bago ako bumili ng svs. kinukulit pa ako ni misis na bumili ng bahay... at hindi siya papayag na maunang mabuo yung HT equipments ko bago bahay, hehehe.

i am planning on auditioning svs with some friends of mine here (singapore). let you know my comments after that.

Oks lang na mauna HT ... bahay pwede kang mag rent ... hehehe.

Teka, auditioning sa Singapore??? eh sama ako diyan.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wolf666 on Dec 03, 2003 at 06:48 PM
Hi Wolf,

Thanks for the info. I'll be getting the RXV-1400 d2 sa Sights n Sound Park Square tomorrow. Bgay sakin 36K...pwede na cguro yun...by the way, anong gamit mong cable papuntang DVD? Optical o coax? Which is better?

Thanks ;)

e1kad2,
Good price na yang Php36k. Good luck sa purchase mo. sigurado akong magugustohan mo yung receiver. I used to spend 30mins (or more) setting speaker distance, running test tones to each speaker (using SPL meter), verifying polarity, etc... Ngayon, using YPAO, 5mins lang tapos lahat. It also analyzes room acoustics and sets PARAMETRIC equalizer for optimum sound quality.

Ang ganda ng panning ng sound after setting up YPAO. Mas gusto ko pa ang sound ng HT ko ngayon kaysa sa Digital Movie house dito sa Singapore. Kulang ko lang talaga ay subwoofer (huhuhu....)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Dr. Dre on Dec 03, 2003 at 09:27 PM
guys i need your help regarding my yamaha receiver ASAP!

my right channel has somehow conkED! its producing static sounds..

i tried changing the wires - did not work
connected the left speaker to the right channel output and it produced static too.. that's how i came to the conclusion that the right channel is defective!!!

wat can i do?!!  ???  ???

The best thing to do is bring it to the authorized service center for analysis and check-up. :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: johnlen on Dec 04, 2003 at 09:31 AM
wolf,

what is YPAO? is this a feature of the receiver? if it is, i am becoming interested in that particular yamaha model!
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Dec 04, 2003 at 12:24 PM
Wolf,
Thanks. Excited na nga ako eh. hehehe...Kunin ko this afternoon then tuloy na set-up.  :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Dec 04, 2003 at 12:26 PM
wolf,

what is YPAO? is this a feature of the receiver? if it is, i am becoming interested in that particular yamaha model!

Yup. You may want to check out their site.
http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/RECEIVER/RX-V1400.htm
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Dec 04, 2003 at 12:35 PM
yammy owners
aside from diamonds
what speaker's a good match with our yammy

being a "bright" receiver does it mean we refrain bright speakers too?

is the yammy speaker a great match with the yammy receiver?
like the NS 8390?

thanks in advance
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Dec 04, 2003 at 12:51 PM
yammy owners
aside from diamonds
what speaker's a good match with our yammy

being a "bright" receiver does it mean we refrain bright speakers too?

is the yammy speaker a great match with the yammy receiver?
like the NS 8390?

thanks in advance

try mo crystals instead of diamonds, monitor audio ok din bro tried them both with my yammy
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 04, 2003 at 01:07 PM
Kimpao,

Musta sound Yamaha and B4 combo?? sir
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Dec 04, 2003 at 01:22 PM
how about GALE and DTX?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Dec 04, 2003 at 01:28 PM
Kimpao,

Musta sound Yamaha and B4 combo?? sir

medyo bright pa yung sound since di pa broken in yung b4.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wolf666 on Dec 04, 2003 at 02:43 PM
Wolf,
Thanks. Excited na nga ako eh. hehehe...Kunin ko this afternoon then tuloy na set-up.  :)

Make sure upgraded to PLIIx yung kukunin mo. Sayang kung hindi pa. Yung mga naunang lumabas kasi na 1400/2400 sa US ay hindi pa upgraded. Pero so far, lahat ng Asia yata is updraded na.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bi0hazard on Dec 04, 2003 at 04:51 PM
Yammy RX-V2400 news, as originally reported in another forum:

http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?board=11;action=displawwy;threadid=21697


Excerpt:

"The January issue of Home Theater reviews this receiver which Yamaha claims has seven channels of power rated at 120 per driven at the same time. However the measurements say something very different.  

2 channels driven at 8 ohms at .1% - 102.9 watts

5 channels driven at 8 ohms at .1% - 43.5 watts

7 channels driven at 8 ohms at .1% - 32.3 watts

<snipped>
"
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bigbird2323 on Dec 04, 2003 at 04:56 PM
Hi wolf and all other 1400/2400 owners,konting feedback naman when it comes to 2 channel audio,too bad I still can't find any review on it on the net since this AVR is fairly new but it's getting a good response from people at AVS forum and the home theater forum.I'm almost decided on joining the bandwagon.my only doubts are it's performance in 2 channel stereo.compared to a lets say a hk4550 which is its price equivalent here in the phil(about 36k.how does it fare?and is it true that this model doesn't have the bright characteristic of older yamaha models and is the 1400 sold here in the philippines already a PLIIx upgraded already.I'm thinking of pairing this amp to either a  B&W 600 series or a monitor audio bronze.which among the two would be a perfect match.thanks
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on Dec 04, 2003 at 11:02 PM
Yammy RX-V2400 news, as originally reported in another forum:

http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?board=11;action=displawwy;threadid=21697


Excerpt:

"The January issue of Home Theater reviews this receiver which Yamaha claims has seven channels of power rated at 120 per driven at the same time. However the measurements say something very different.  

2 channels driven at 8 ohms at .1% - 102.9 watts

5 channels driven at 8 ohms at .1% - 43.5 watts

7 channels driven at 8 ohms at .1% - 32.3 watts

<snipped>
"


Old issue with Yamaha receivers...
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Dec 05, 2003 at 12:32 AM
Yammy RX-V2400 news, as originally reported in another forum:

http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?board=11;action=displawwy;threadid=21697


Excerpt:

"The January issue of Home Theater reviews this receiver which Yamaha claims has seven channels of power rated at 120 per driven at the same time. However the measurements say something very different.  

2 channels driven at 8 ohms at .1% - 102.9 watts

5 channels driven at 8 ohms at .1% - 43.5 watts

7 channels driven at 8 ohms at .1% - 32.3 watts

<snipped>
"

This is also being said in another forum such as eCoustic.com.  I don't know if this is another black propaganda as I could not see any report in the internet. This is ridiculous.  Written in January issue of what..???? and not to be found in the net...hmmmm
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Dec 05, 2003 at 12:34 AM
Make sure upgraded to PLIIx yung kukunin mo. Sayang kung hindi pa. Yung mga naunang lumabas kasi na 1400/2400 sa US ay hindi pa upgraded. Pero so far, lahat ng Asia yata is updraded na.

Yahh...It does have the DPL IIx.  Will set-up my system tomorrow.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Dec 05, 2003 at 12:37 AM
Hi wolf and all other 1400/2400 owners,konting feedback naman when it comes to 2 channel audio,too bad I still can't find any review on it on the net since this AVR is fairly new but it's getting a good response from people at AVS forum and the home theater forum.I'm almost decided on joining the bandwagon.my only doubts are it's performance in 2 channel stereo.compared to a lets say a hk4550 which is its price equivalent here in the phil(about 36k.how does it fare?and is it true that this model doesn't have the bright characteristic of older yamaha models and is the 1400 sold here in the philippines already a PLIIx upgraded already.I'm thinking of pairing this amp to either a  B&W 600 series or a monitor audio bronze.which among the two would be a perfect match.thanks

Yes. The RXV-1400 here is already a DPLIIx.  :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wolf666 on Dec 05, 2003 at 03:22 AM
Yammy RX-V2400 news, as originally reported in another forum:

http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?board=11;action=displawwy;threadid=21697


Excerpt:

"The January issue of Home Theater reviews this receiver which Yamaha claims has seven channels of power rated at 120 per driven at the same time. However the measurements say something very different.  

2 channels driven at 8 ohms at .1% - 102.9 watts

5 channels driven at 8 ohms at .1% - 43.5 watts

7 channels driven at 8 ohms at .1% - 32.3 watts

<snipped>
"

this is same issue with most brand anyway. the review itself still rated rxv2400 with excellent performance (94/100).
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wolf666 on Dec 05, 2003 at 03:43 AM
Hi wolf and all other 1400/2400 owners,konting feedback naman when it comes to 2 channel audio,too bad I still can't find any review on it on the net since this AVR is fairly new but it's getting a good response from people at AVS forum and the home theater forum.I'm almost decided on joining the bandwagon.my only doubts are it's performance in 2 channel stereo.compared to a lets say a hk4550 which is its price equivalent here in the phil(about 36k.how does it fare?and is it true that this model doesn't have the bright characteristic of older yamaha models and is the 1400 sold here in the philippines already a PLIIx upgraded already.I'm thinking of pairing this amp to either a  B&W 600 series or a monitor audio bronze.which among the two would be a perfect match.thanks

I wont be able to compare it with HK4550 as I have never heard that model. Comparing 1400 with my old Marantz sr7300, I would say that their sound in 2 channel audio is very different. 7300 is very warm while 1400 is very detailed. I don't know if it's just me but on low volume (less than 80dB siguro) I prefer the sound to be detailed while on high volume, I prefer the warm sound of 7300. If possible, you should try both yamaha and hk before deciding. If I am to choose again between 1400 and 7300 now, I would pick 1400 as I feel this is a step up in features (tons of them, although most of them will not be used), HT (huge differnce) and almost equal in 2 channel audio.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bigbird2323 on Dec 05, 2003 at 04:15 AM
Quote
Yammy RX-V2400 news, as originally reported in another forum:

http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?board=11;action=displawwy;threadid=21697


Excerpt:

"The January issue of Home Theater reviews this receiver which Yamaha claims has seven channels of power rated at 120 per driven at the same time. However the measurements say something very different.  

2 channels driven at 8 ohms at .1% - 102.9 watts

5 channels driven at 8 ohms at .1% - 43.5 watts

7 channels driven at 8 ohms at .1% - 32.3 watts

<snipped>

I've also seen this report talked about at avs and hometheater forum and many users actually dont believe it because a dennon I;n just not sure which model is also rated too low.I think only actual  owners can help us here .Wolf666,since your a previous owner of a nad and a marantz,what volume level satisfies you for both music and HT  and compared to your previous AVR brands which among the 3 do you find most powerful.can you please rank them.thanks
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Dec 07, 2003 at 01:38 AM
Yes. The RXV-1400 here is already a DPLIIx.  :)

Hi Wolf,
How would you know that the DPLIIx is already enabled? Does it shows the PLIIx word or only the logo as stated in a separate manual?  The RXV-1400 box states that it is already upgraded to DPLIIx. Thanks
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wolf666 on Dec 07, 2003 at 11:40 AM
Hi Wolf,
How would you know that the DPLIIx is already enabled? Does it shows the PLIIx word or only the logo as stated in a separate manual?  The RXV-1400 box states that it is already upgraded to DPLIIx. Thanks

Did your receiver come with extra sheets (besides the manual) which discuss the PLIIx and how to activate it?
best indication before buying is the logo infront (sticker). If you want to make sure, just enable 7.1 speaker (kahit walang naka connect) and toggle Dolby settings. It should show DPLIIx.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wolf666 on Dec 07, 2003 at 11:49 AM
I've also seen this report talked about at avs and hometheater forum and many users actually dont believe it because a dennon I;n just not sure which model is also rated too low.I think only actual  owners can help us here .Wolf666,since your a previous owner of a nad and a marantz,what volume level satisfies you for both music and HT  and compared to your previous AVR brands which among the 3 do you find most powerful.can you please rank them.thanks

bigbird2323,
i am not a previous owner of NAD (T762). this was my earlier planned replacement of my previous SR7300. I have auditioned this receiver (using same speakers) though at least 3 times before.
on 2 channel audio, it will be very difficult for anyone to compare their power by just listening. unless siguro one uses some equipement to measure the exact sound level and at what point one distorts. for what it's worth, I still find NAD T762 better in 2 channel audio but this is just subjective and no relation to their actual power output.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Dec 07, 2003 at 11:41 PM
Did your receiver come with extra sheets (besides the manual) which discuss the PLIIx and how to activate it?
best indication before buying is the logo infront (sticker). If you want to make sure, just enable 7.1 speaker (kahit walang naka connect) and toggle Dolby settings. It should show DPLIIx.

Yes it did come with extra sheets that discusses the PLIIx and it also has the sticker on it.  Am just looking for the word DPLIIx in the receiver screen. It only shows the DPLII logo as stated in the manual.  Do you see the the DPLIIx word? Regards
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Dec 08, 2003 at 12:00 AM
Old issue with Yamaha receivers...

This is the right excerpt...

http://www.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/3/7401.html

"I have the January issue of Home Theater Magazine and "elitefan" is right about the test numbers, but his interpretation of the results is wrong. The output that "elitefan" is reffering to comes from a Wattage vs. Percent Distortation Curve. Not an output curve. Based on this curve, the Yamaha RX-V2400 receiver reached the .1% distortortion point at 102.9 watts and at 130.5 watts this receiver has 1% distortation when two speakers are driven. When five speakers are driven, the Yamaha receiver reached .1% distortion at 43.5 watts. This does not mean that the Yamaha RX-V2400 doesn't put out 120 watts it only means that at the rated output you can expect a lot of unwanted noise when five speakers are being driven. The test curve clearly reaches beyond the 120 watt point before it flattens out. All receivers have a reduction in power when trying to drive five to seven speakers simultaneously because all the channels are drawing current off the same power supply even the ones "elitefan" has mentioned. You can rest assure that the Yamaha power supplies are top notch and are much better than H/K, Rotel. NAD and Pioneer have good power supplies but are by no means better."
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wolf666 on Dec 08, 2003 at 09:43 AM
e1kad2,

hindi ba pinoy din si elitefan? tama yung mga sinulat mo doon sa thread na yun, wala na ngang ginawa si elitefan kundi sirain ang Yamaha.

as far as I can remember, meroong nakalagay na PLIIx when i first installed my 1400. that time kasi nakasetup sya as 7.1, ngayon PLII nalang dahil naayos ko na setup ko (5.1 setup). i can verify that again if you want.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: obey on Dec 08, 2003 at 10:08 AM
Bakit kaya maraming galit sa yamaha? :(

Lagi nilang sinasabi na "pangit" daw talaga especially for music.  To date, wala naman akong nalalaman na claims galing sa yamaha AVRs na kapantay nito ang tube amps when it comes to music reproduction. :o








Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Dec 08, 2003 at 10:32 AM
e1kad2,

hindi ba pinoy din si elitefan? tama yung mga sinulat mo doon sa thread na yun, wala na ngang ginawa si elitefan kundi sirain ang Yamaha.

as far as I can remember, meroong nakalagay na PLIIx when i first installed my 1400. that time kasi nakasetup sya as 7.1, ngayon PLII nalang dahil naayos ko na setup ko (5.1 setup). i can verify that again if you want.

dre, d ko alam kung pinoy si elitefan. pero d pa sya reply sa post ko eh. hehehe..

Anyway, 5.1 lang din ang set-up ko. la na akong perang pambili ng additional speakers. hehehe...hirap mag paalam kay misis...pero, pa verify na lang din kung talagang PLIIx display nya pag 7.1 ang set-up.  Thanks. May cousin ako dyan sa singapore working sa citibank ah. wer do u work there pre?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Dec 08, 2003 at 10:42 AM
Bakit kaya maraming galit sa yamaha? :(

Lagi nilang sinasabi na "pangit" daw talaga especially for music.  To date, wala naman akong nalalaman na claims galing sa yamaha AVRs na kapantay nito ang tube amps when it comes to music reproduction. :o

Ganyan talaga mga tao pag may mas maganda na receiver kaysa sa gamit nila, sabihin d maganda iba. Para bang love ur own. Just my opinion yan ha.  For me, YAMAHA pa rin.  ;)







Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wolf666 on Dec 08, 2003 at 11:48 AM
dre, d ko alam kung pinoy si elitefan. pero d pa sya reply sa post ko eh. hehehe..

Anyway, 5.1 lang din ang set-up ko. la na akong perang pambili ng additional speakers. hehehe...hirap mag paalam kay misis...pero, pa verify na lang din kung talagang PLIIx display nya pag 7.1 ang set-up.  Thanks. May cousin ako dyan sa singapore working sa citibank ah. wer do u work there pre?


Check ko yung PLIIx siguro this weekend. Wala oras kpag weekday eh....
Medyo maliit lang naman ang IT community dito sa singapore. malaki ang chance na kakilala or na meet ko na cousin mo. PM me his/her name. sa deutsche bank ako nagwo-work dito.
itong si JT (fellow pinoydvd member) ay kakilala ko pala. matagal na kaming walang contact at dito lang pala sa PinoyDVD kami uli magkakaroon ng communication.  
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: cousin skeeter on Dec 08, 2003 at 11:59 AM
Bakit kaya maraming galit sa yamaha? :(

Lagi nilang sinasabi na "pangit" daw talaga especially for music.  To date, wala naman akong nalalaman na claims galing sa yamaha AVRs na kapantay nito ang tube amps when it comes to music reproduction. :o

i don't think pangit ang yamaha. i consider yamaha the best in HT. the yamaha 620 i had before was, in my opinion, better in movies than my hk2550 now but for my personal taste medyo manipis ang sound nya for music but then again different strokes for different folks. if i had more dough though (we all wish this i guess), i would take seperate routes for HT and audio. go the yamaha way for HT and tubes for audio. most of the people here would agree that you can't hit two birds with one stone in this hobby.

i havent heard the rxv1400 nor the 2400. wish i would get the chance though. if their younger sibling impressed me in HT, siguro ma wow na wow ako sa prowess nitong dalawa.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: johnlen on Dec 08, 2003 at 01:10 PM
for music, has anyone heard the Yamaha MX1 dual mono class A power amp?

i own this amp, and i am satified with its sound. but rather i would like somebody else to make an objective judgement, if somebody is fortunate enough to have heard the music it can muster!  
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Narayan on Dec 08, 2003 at 03:50 PM
for music, has anyone heard the Yamaha MX1 dual mono class A power amp?

i own this amp, and i am satified with its sound. but rather i would like somebody else to make an objective judgement, if somebody is fortunate enough to have heard the music it can muster!  

havent had the good fortune to hear one in action but i understand that this is a classic amp :o
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: [slayer] on Dec 09, 2003 at 12:22 PM
How much ongoing price ngayon ng RX-V440?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Dec 09, 2003 at 01:15 PM
How much ongoing price ngayon ng RX-V440?

14k to 16k ang alam kong price range.  Hmmm hk to yammies. Makes wonder what slayer is upto. ::) ::)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: [slayer] on Dec 09, 2003 at 03:01 PM
kimpao,

Hindi sakin! May nagpapatanong lang... ahehehe... aren't the 14k to 16k is for the 330/430?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Dec 09, 2003 at 03:07 PM
kimpao,

Hindi sakin! May nagpapatanong lang... ahehehe... aren't the 14k to 16k is for the 330/430?

ang alam ko nagbaba sila ng price dito
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: [slayer] on Dec 09, 2003 at 03:23 PM
kimpao,

Okidoks! Salamas!
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Dec 09, 2003 at 04:32 PM
Check ko yung PLIIx siguro this weekend. Wala oras kpag weekday eh....
Medyo maliit lang naman ang IT community dito sa singapore. malaki ang chance na kakilala or na meet ko na cousin mo. PM me his/her name. sa deutsche bank ako nagwo-work dito.
itong si JT (fellow pinoydvd member) ay kakilala ko pala. matagal na kaming walang contact at dito lang pala sa PinoyDVD kami uli magkakaroon ng communication.  

Thanks, Dre.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Dec 09, 2003 at 04:34 PM
How much ongoing price ngayon ng RX-V440?

Confirmed. 14k price ny 440 sa sights and sound park square. look for Tina.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Bogsle on Dec 10, 2003 at 02:14 PM
Guys,

Isn't it that the LSI Chip of the RXV1400 is the YSS-930? Does this mean that the decoding and sound reproduction is much better in the RXV440 to RXV740 models because they have the LSI Chip YSS-938 which is newer?

Any comment on this?

I'm also a Yamaha fan and thought of upgrading my RXV440 to RXV1400 by early next year. But if one of the main difference is only the amp power (I really don't have much need for lots of connectors), should I reconsider my upgrade and stick with the RXV440 I have....well, until a much powerfull amp comes out with the same or much newer LSI chip than the YSS-938.

Thanks in advance for your inputs.


VTY,
Bogsle
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Dec 10, 2003 at 04:35 PM
Guys,

Isn't it that the LSI Chip of the RXV1400 is the YSS-930? Does this mean that the decoding and sound reproduction is much better in the RXV440 to RXV740 models because they have the LSI Chip YSS-938 which is newer?

Any comment on this?

I'm also a Yamaha fan and thought of upgrading my RXV440 to RXV1400 by early next year. But if one of the main difference is only the amp power (I really don't have much need for lots of connectors), should I reconsider my upgrade and stick with the RXV440 I have....well, until a much powerfull amp comes out with the same or much newer LSI chip than the YSS-938.

Thanks in advance for your inputs.


VTY,
Bogsle

The YSS-930 is new. I believe so bec. this LSI chip are being used by their new models while the YSS-938 are used by their older models. Moreso, besides power, there are many features the 1400 offers like 7.1, THX certified, YPAO, 27 surround programs, etc.
Title: Yamaha RXV-2400 review
Post by: wolf666 on Dec 10, 2003 at 05:38 PM
fyi
http://www.audioholics.com/productreviews/avhardware/YamahaRXV-2400Receiver-p1.html
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Dec 15, 2003 at 09:59 AM
e1kad2,

hindi ba pinoy din si elitefan? tama yung mga sinulat mo doon sa thread na yun, wala na ngang ginawa si elitefan kundi sirain ang Yamaha.

as far as I can remember, meroong nakalagay na PLIIx when i first installed my 1400. that time kasi nakasetup sya as 7.1, ngayon PLII nalang dahil naayos ko na setup ko (5.1 setup). i can verify that again if you want.

I got it! The PLIIx will only show if it was configured as 7.1 setup.  Thanks Wolf... :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Dec 15, 2003 at 02:01 PM
hey guys in layman's term
what's Digital Top-art?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Bogsle on Dec 15, 2003 at 03:22 PM
Guys,

Isn't it that the LSI Chip of the RXV1400 is the YSS-930? Does this mean that the decoding and sound reproduction is much better in the RXV440 to RXV740 models because they have the LSI Chip YSS-938 which is newer?

Any comment on this?

I'm also a Yamaha fan and thought of upgrading my RXV440 to RXV1400 by early next year. But if one of the main difference is only the amp power (I really don't have much need for lots of connectors), should I reconsider my upgrade and stick with the RXV440 I have....well, until a much powerfull amp comes out with the same or much newer LSI chip than the YSS-938.

Thanks in advance for your inputs.


VTY,
Bogsle
 
 

The YSS-930 is new. I believe so bec. this LSI chip are being used by their new models while the YSS-938 are used by their older models. Moreso, besides power, there are many features the 1400 offers like 7.1, THX certified, YPAO, 27 surround programs, etc.

Thanks so much for the advice.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Bogsle on Dec 15, 2003 at 03:54 PM
Guys,

We have here a quote from this link posted by Wolf666: http://www.audioholics.com/productreviews/avhardware/YamahaRXV2400Receiver-p2.html

My concern is this portion of the article, which I have quoted below:

"Impedance Selector Switch"
"I recommend the “Minimum 8 ohms” setting even for 4 ohm speakers of moderate efficiency (>89dB SPL). Yamaha includes a” 6 ohm” setting to satisfy UL as well as easing consumer concerns about driving low impedance loads. These switches step down voltage feed to the power sections which can limit dynamics and overall fidelity. My advice is to keep the switch set to “Minimum 8 ohms” regardless of the impedance of your speakers and ensure proper ventilation of the Receiver."

I have a set of JBL SCS178 speakers with 4 ohms impedance.

The specs are at this link:
http://international.jbl.com/home/products/product_detail.asp?ProdId=SCS178/230&SerId=SCS&language=ENGLISH (http://international.jbl.com/home/products/product_detail.asp?ProdId=SCS178/230&SerId=SCS&language=ENGLISH)

Should I follow this advice?


Thanks again.

Bogsle
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arapaap on Dec 16, 2003 at 08:45 AM
has anyone tried rxv340?  any feedback? i believe it's a new model.  quite a good value for P12k (Ambassador)?  Seen lower price?

can it drive 86db speakers?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Dec 16, 2003 at 08:58 AM
add 2k ang you'll get dts 6.1 discrete, matrix and neo.
dd-ex for the 440 model.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Dec 16, 2003 at 10:11 AM
add 2k ang you'll get dts 6.1 discrete, matrix and neo.
dd-ex for the 440 model.

Good Advice. Go with the 440 arapaap.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Dec 16, 2003 at 10:25 AM
Guys,

We have here a quote from this link posted by Wolf666: http://www.audioholics.com/productreviews/avhardware/YamahaRXV2400Receiver-p2.html

My concern is this portion of the article, which I have quoted below:

"Impedance Selector Switch"
"I recommend the “Minimum 8 ohms” setting even for 4 ohm speakers of moderate efficiency (>89dB SPL). Yamaha includes a” 6 ohm” setting to satisfy UL as well as easing consumer concerns about driving low impedance loads. These switches step down voltage feed to the power sections which can limit dynamics and overall fidelity. My advice is to keep the switch set to “Minimum 8 ohms” regardless of the impedance of your speakers and ensure proper ventilation of the Receiver."

I have a set of JBL SCS178 speakers with 4 ohms impedance.

The specs are at this link:
http://international.jbl.com/home/products/product_detail.asp?ProdId=SCS178/230&SerId=SCS&language=ENGLISH (http://international.jbl.com/home/products/product_detail.asp?ProdId=SCS178/230&SerId=SCS&language=ENGLISH)

Should I follow this advice?


Thanks again.

Bogsle

Based on the product literature, it can handle the 4ohms load. But just be carefull on the volume knob of the receiver since it will pump out 200watts of power, and would surely damage your speakers.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: alfa on Dec 16, 2003 at 08:12 PM
how much is Yamaha RX-V740 now?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Dec 17, 2003 at 09:42 AM
how much is Yamaha RX-V740 now?

You may check with Tina of Sights and Sound park square with tel. no. 7527115.

Pls. tell her that you were referred with the one who purchased RXV-1400 and ask for discount. ;)
Title: Yamaha HT in a box???
Post by: T-850 on Dec 18, 2003 at 04:40 PM
is there such thing as an HT in a box for Yamaha?

my friend says her friend bought one in megamall, sale daw kasi for only 20K, used to be around 40K.  :o

can someone please confirm this!?!?!   ???

where else can i get one for that price? is it worth it?
Title: Re:Yamaha HT in a box???
Post by: MiKeBiBbY on Dec 18, 2003 at 04:48 PM
is there such thing as an HT in a box for Yamaha?

my friend says her friend bought one in megamall, sale daw kasi for only 20K, used to be around 40K.  :o

can someone please confirm this!?!?!   ???

where else can i get one for that price? is it worth it?

yamaha s60... sells around P19k+... last saw this in Astroplus Podium and Listening In Style in Shangri La Edsa...

ito yung recommended sa kin before a finally decided to go for a pioneer HTIB.

yamaha has a full line of HTIB products but so far, i haven't come across any of them except for the s60.
Title: Re:Yamaha HT in a box???
Post by: T-850 on Dec 18, 2003 at 05:25 PM
yamaha s60... sells around P19k+... last saw this in Astroplus Podium and Listening In Style in Shangri La Edsa...

ito yung recommended sa kin before a finally decided to go for a pioneer HTIB.

yamaha has a full line of HTIB products but so far, i haven't come across any of them except for the s60.

thanks mikebibby!  :D

u think ok na to para saken? im only after the dts receiver.. i mean, is it dts nga ba in the 1st place?
Title: Re:Yamaha HT in a box???
Post by: MiKeBiBbY on Dec 18, 2003 at 06:10 PM
thanks mikebibby!  :D

u think ok na to para saken? im only after the dts receiver.. i mean, is it dts nga ba in the 1st place?


(http://www.mercadolivre.com.br/org-img/preview/MLB/112003/11051016_5956.jpg)

i think it does have a DTS decoder.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Dec 19, 2003 at 08:06 AM
19k?
imho if i were to spend 19k on a HTiB (5.1)
i rather go separates

receiver and fronts first will do.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 19, 2003 at 10:27 AM
mikebibby,

Sir for starter ok yan.. but later on if you want to upgrade eh medyo mahihirapan ka sir ng components to match you current setup.. go for separates sir pricey at first but in the long run mas cheaper sir... ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sayad5 on Dec 19, 2003 at 10:41 AM
i just got a rx-v440 yesterday.

can i use a 4 ohms 30-80 watts speaker as my rear center?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MiKeBiBbY on Dec 19, 2003 at 11:39 AM
mikebibby,

Sir for starter ok yan.. but later on if you want to upgrade eh medyo mahihirapan ka sir ng components to match you current setup.. go for separates sir pricey at first but in the long run mas cheaper sir... ;D

thanks for the advice but i was just answering moethug's inquiry on the yamaha htib.

i am aware of the advantages of going separates but for now, i'm completely happy with my pioneer htib.

hope you guys will be around if ever i need advice when the time comes for me to go separates.

peace dudes!
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Bartman on Dec 19, 2003 at 04:10 PM
is the rx-v440 powerful enough to drive Wharf 8.4 diamonds?  Anyone with this set-up?  I'm hoping to buy these soon.

any feedback would be appreciated  :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: LtCool on Dec 20, 2003 at 11:12 AM
Sir Bartman, i have replies on another thread for your inquiries, but you have the option to audition it first becuse in the end you alone can decide to go for 8.4s or 8.3s

Cheers,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Dec 20, 2003 at 12:53 PM
Hi Guys, additional info. for Yamaha Users.

quote:
There are some people who still think that the new Yamaha is still bright like they use to be but they are now actually warmer and better sounding receivers than their older models. Yamaha has been improved and uses even higher quality of DACs and AMPs which they use to. I'll post the information about its 192kHz/24bit DACs in all channels in a day or two. I've send an email to Yamaha Canada to tell me the brand of DACs it uses.

So far Yamaha Canada told me, The new Yamaha RX-1400/2400 uses 192kHz/24bit BURR-BROWN DACs for Front L/R channels. The SURROUD L/R & SURROUND BACK L/R uses 192kHz/24bit AKM (Asahi Kasei Micro-electronics) DACs. I'm still waiting for CENTER, LFE and PRESENCE channels.

I did a research on these DACs today that which manufacturers use them.

BURR-BROWN DACs are used by:

YAMAHA
DENON
PIONNER
PROCEED and possibily some other companies too.

AKM (Asahi Kasei Micro-electronics) DACs are used by:

YAMAHA
PROCEED
PARASOUND
ROTEL
B&K
NAD
HARMAN KARDON
ONKYO
NAD
ANTHEM and possibily some other companies too.

Both BURR-BROWN and AKM are very high-end DACs used by one of the top of the line RECEIVERs and PROCESSORs. That is why Yamaha RX-1400/2400 sounds awesome and one of the reasons why these 2 receivers sound so good because they use 2 different brand of DACs and each has its own speciality. The BURR-BROWN seems to be great with music while AKM is great for both music and movies. Yamaha RX-1400/2400 is a well balanced receiver both for music and movies and easily beat some other receivers in sound quality which cost 2-3 times more.

I was all set to buy DENON 3803 mainly because of its BURR-BROWN DACs but after listening and reading about YAMAHA RX-V1400 reviews from people who actually compared both DENON 3803 and YAMAHA RX-V1400 side by side and said YAMAHA RX-V1400 is a winner hands down. They said, for movies both are equal but in music they loved the mellow and sweet sound of YAMAHA RX-V1400 and plus all other features and being THX Certified they picked YAMAHA RX-1400. THX is not a hype, some people are jealous because there receiver have no THX logo. THX means high quality product which delivers superior sound and video and the Yamaha RX-1400/2400 and RX-Z9 are THX Certified. I'm lucky to have this outstanding receiver which has everything. If it was twice the price I would've still bought it.

I love my YAMAHA RX-V1400 and have no words to describe. I'm thrilled by the sound it produces.

This information is for everybody!
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Dec 20, 2003 at 12:54 PM
website

http://www.hometheaterspot.com/htsthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB51&Number=521367&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kerwin on Dec 21, 2003 at 12:05 AM
i am planning to buy a yamaha receiver by next month.  i am looking at the RX-V540 and RX-V640.  what's the difference between the two except for wattage and connections?  is there a signigicant difference on how they decode dolby digital or dts?  all of my speakers are 120watts and above. would the speakers sound better with a higher wattage receiver? thanks
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: LtCool on Dec 21, 2003 at 07:34 AM
Addition to e1kad2 post

not just the 1400/2400 uses Burr Brown DAC but i've seen at what hifi website that their 630 uses this DACs, so if their old model uses BB DACs therefore their new model uses this DACs.


kerwin, if i were you i would choose 640 which has pre-outs which the 540 doesn't have, the pre-out can later be used for your audio setup if ever you wanted to buy power amps for your audio setup.and their difference is i think 2K lang.

i've seen at amba ghills the 640 is on sale, sabi nila 20K plus yung cost. sayang sana antay ko yung sale nila i might have saved 5K.

Cheers,
-LtCool-
 
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: junji98 on Dec 22, 2003 at 10:20 AM
meron na bang nagtry ng ws pre-amp with yammie 430?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: junji98 on Dec 22, 2003 at 10:20 AM
meron na bang nagtry ng ws pre-amp with yammie 430?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kerwin on Dec 22, 2003 at 11:24 PM
thanks ltcool. my next question is, i saw the specs of the yamaha rx-v640 and it says that min RMS power is 85 watts.  my rear surrounds is rated at 80w max.  does this mean that my speakers will be damaged if i connect it to the receiver?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on Dec 23, 2003 at 11:29 AM
thanks ltcool. my next question is, i saw the specs of the yamaha rx-v640 and it says that min RMS power is 85 watts.  my rear surrounds is rated at 80w max.  does this mean that my speakers will be damaged if i connect it to the receiver?

Answer is simply NO. But check the impedance rating, they should be at least match or in the range rating.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wolf666 on Dec 25, 2003 at 05:57 PM
website

http://www.hometheaterspot.com/htsthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB51&Number=521367&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

kamusta na ang receiver mo? how do you find it?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Dec 26, 2003 at 10:47 AM
kamusta na ang receiver mo? how do you find it?

Ganda performance. Am using the 7 Channel stereo in listening to music and THX Cinema for the movies. Am planning to add 2 more speakers to enjoy 7.1 and PLIIx. Merry Christmas.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: LtCool on Dec 28, 2003 at 09:51 AM
Happy New Gear!!!



-LtCool-
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: zakkaz on Dec 28, 2003 at 11:57 AM
i am planning to buy a yamaha receiver by next month.  i am looking at the RX-V540 and RX-V640.  what's the difference between the two except for wattage and connections?  is there a signigicant difference on how they decode dolby digital or dts?  all of my speakers are 120watts and above. would the speakers sound better with a higher wattage receiver? thanks
u can buy d products at spectra in parksquare1
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: johndoe on Dec 28, 2003 at 10:26 PM
how much ang 540 ngaun? ;)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: losi_phile on Dec 29, 2003 at 09:54 AM
Benchmark Test for RX-V640 : http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_10_4/yamaha-rx-v640-receiver-12-2003-part-1.html
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Dec 29, 2003 at 11:33 AM
Benchmark Test for RX-V640 : http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_10_4/yamaha-rx-v640-receiver-12-2003-part-1.html

Ganda talaga performance ng Yamaha overall compared with other AVR's in the same category.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: zakkaz on Dec 29, 2003 at 12:46 PM
how much ang 540 ngaun? ;)
try to visit spectra in parksquare 1 n look for jim he can give u a good price
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on Dec 29, 2003 at 02:55 PM
mura na ba yung yamaha 440 for 10K. 2 months used lang? maguupgrade daw yung nagbebenta e.

salamats.

Steal na yan. If I were you I'll buy that ASAP.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Dec 29, 2003 at 03:00 PM
Steal na yan. If I were you I'll buy that ASAP.

Phil is right! That's more than a steal antukin!  ;D ;D ;D ;D If I have the "Moolah" right now and even though I have an avr I'll still take iT! 8)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on Dec 29, 2003 at 03:03 PM
Sino ba yang seller na yan... (baka maisipan....  ;D ;D ).

Naku, mapapabili yata ng di oras!  ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Bogsle on Dec 29, 2003 at 05:33 PM
Guys,

I went to Spectra the other day looking for speaker upgrades for my JBL SCS 178 I'm using with RX-V440.

Inquiring as to which brand will be most suited with my AVR, the sales person says bagay daw yung TANOY speakers with my Yammy. He also added that these are the speakers often paired with Yamaha receivers in Europe.

Honestly, since I'm a newby I'm not much familiar with TANOY speakers (as with a lot of speaker brands also for that matter).

Has anyone have a comment on this?

Thanks for the help.

bogsle

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: johndoe on Dec 29, 2003 at 05:53 PM
 tannoy is really well known in us and eu.. 8) got a chance to audition one of thier models(mx series),sa yamaha sm north..great bass&performance paired with of course yammy reciever..

 8)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: LtCool on Dec 31, 2003 at 05:15 AM
yeah it's a great speaker but the price make me think twice, a pair bookshelf speaker can buy me 2 pairs of Diamond 8.4

Cheers,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: johndoe on Jan 01, 2004 at 08:46 PM
ya..medyo mahal ang tannoy.. ::)

happy new year to all yammy users ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: johndoe on Jan 02, 2004 at 06:16 PM
behold,the flagship reciever of yamaha.. 9.1 channel,thx ulrtra 2!!


(http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/products/ht/z9img/front_b.jpg)
cranking at 250Wx7+70Wx2 8)

(http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/products/ht/z9img/rear_b.jpg)
BEEFY BACK PANEL!! ;D ;D..
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Jan 02, 2004 at 11:43 PM
ya..medyo mahal ang tannoy.. ::)

happy new year to all yammy users ;D

Happy New Year too!
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Jan 03, 2004 at 12:01 AM
behold,the flagship reciever of yamaha.. 9.1 channel,thx ulrtra 2!!


(http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/products/ht/z9img/front_b.jpg)
cranking at 250Wx7+70Wx2 8)

(http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/products/ht/z9img/rear_b.jpg)
BEEFY BACK PANEL!! ;D ;D..

Here's the website. http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/index.html
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: LtCool on Jan 04, 2004 at 08:37 AM
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!


Happy New Gear To All!



Cheers,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Jan 04, 2004 at 10:16 AM
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!


Happy New Gear To All!



Cheers,
-LtCool-

LTCool,

kamusta na ang setup. ;D ;D

mukhang panay ang break-in ah.

ahehehehehe

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MeowPao on Jan 05, 2004 at 01:16 PM
Bakit kaya maraming galit sa yamaha? :(

Lagi nilang sinasabi na "pangit" daw talaga especially for music.  To date, wala naman akong nalalaman na claims galing sa yamaha AVRs na kapantay nito ang tube amps when it comes to music reproduction. :o


I remember the time (2 years ago) when there was this so-called 'Audio Skipping' every 8 seconds or so when certain DVDs are played in Dolby Digital Mode. (well in the end, the manufacturers, the chipmaker and Dolby were pointing fingers at each other, while the consumers were the ones kawawa).

At that time, only Yamaha was not affected, since they make their own chips.  :)

Eto lang: Up to now, I still have to hear of a major problem with regards to Yamaha Receivers (like ultra poor performance, overheating to the point of umaapoy na, that skipping problem, underpowered, etc.).

IMHO, matibay talaga ang Yamaha, so if one of your criteria is durability, then Yamaha is the way to go. :)

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackryan on Jan 05, 2004 at 01:20 PM
hi !

so far, i am still using my relatively no longer new RXV-795a and it is working without problems for me.

-jackryan 8)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Jan 05, 2004 at 02:50 PM
For those who wanted to know what type of DAC's the RXV-1400/2400 are using, see the link below. Or read the quote.

 http://www.hometheaterspot.com/htsthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=521367&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=31&fpart=2#Post527370

FRONTs L/R: BURR-BROWN
CENTER: BURR-BROWN
LFE: BURR-BROWN
SURROUNDs L/R: AKM (ASAHI KASEI MICROSYSTEMS)
SURROUND BACKs L/R: AKM (ASAHI KASEI MICROSYSTEMS)
PRESENCE L/R: AKM (ASAHI KASEI MICROSYSTEMS)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Jan 05, 2004 at 02:55 PM
e1kad2,
how about entry levels like the 540/440?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Jan 05, 2004 at 03:34 PM
e1kad2,
how about entry levels like the 540/440?

Will try to check them out also.  :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bigbird2323 on Jan 06, 2004 at 03:04 AM
hi e1kad2.I'm also using an rxv-1400,do you know of the benefits of adding  presence speakers. do you think it will make much difference.btw which do you find better the surround standard or the enhanced.thanks
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Jan 06, 2004 at 09:27 AM
hi e1kad2.I'm also using an rxv-1400,do you know of the benefits of adding  presence speakers. do you think it will make much difference.btw which do you find better the surround standard or the enhanced.thanks

Hi bigbird,

My set-up is currently 5.1. La me pambili additional spkrs right now but based on other forums using 1400, presence spkrs add some realistic presence.  Can't tell if it will make much differrence.  As for the DSP, I find the enhanced mode better.  :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Jan 06, 2004 at 09:44 AM
e1kad2,
how about entry levels like the 540/440?

Hi Kimpoy,

According to other forums I've read, the RXV 740 series and below uses AKM DAC to all its channels.  I've already e-mail Yamaha for its confirmation.  :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Jan 08, 2004 at 09:15 AM
Hi Kimpoy,

According to other forums I've read, the RXV 740 series and below uses AKM DAC to all its channels.  I've already e-mail Yamaha for its confirmation.  :)

Here's the confirmation of Yamaha thru e-mail;

Hi,   RXV740 'series  Main L&R DAC AK4381

Effect channels  AK4529VQ

Thank you,

Mathew Hubbard

Service Manager

AVIT Group

Yamaha Canada Music LTD.

135 Milner Ave. Scarborough, Ontario

M1S 3R1

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Jan 08, 2004 at 09:27 AM
hi e1kad2.I'm also using an rxv-1400,do you know of the benefits of adding  presence speakers. do you think it will make much difference.btw which do you find better the surround standard or the enhanced.thanks

Hi bigbird,

What speakers are u using on ur RXV-1400? Thanks
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bigbird2323 on Jan 09, 2004 at 02:27 AM
hi e1kad2,Im using a B&W 602 s3-fronts,LCR60-center,600 s3-surrounds,600 s30-surround back and a velodyne cht-12/Im thinking of adding a generic speakers as my presence.do you think it's a good idea?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: johndoe on Jan 09, 2004 at 06:46 AM
i think yes..or u can opt nalang for dtx,dai ichi speakers,try to match the ohm rating nlang of ur sets of speakers to those you will buy 8)..ok naman kasi ang reciever mo.. ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Bogsle on Jan 09, 2004 at 02:54 PM
Mga Sirs,

Wag naman po sana masamain. Pero may comment or question lang ako about sa confirmation ng Yamaha kay e1kad2 about the DACs being used for RX-V740 series.

Accoriding to this link,
http://www.asahi-kasei.co.jp/akm/en/product/ak4381/ak4381.html (http://www.asahi-kasei.co.jp/akm/en/product/ak4381/ak4381.html), yung DAC AK4381 is a 192kHz 24-Bit 2ch DAC, na sabi sa iyo ng Yamaha ay ginagamit nila sa main L&R channels.

Pero according to this link naman, http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/RECEIVER/RX-V740.htm (http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/RECEIVER/RX-V740.htm), the RX-V740 has 96kHz/24-bit DACs for all channels.

Conflicting po yata yung information.

Di kaya mali ang claim or information na binigay nila, sir?

Nagtatanong lang po.

Salamat,
Bogs

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Jan 10, 2004 at 11:45 PM
hi e1kad2,Im using a B&W 602 s3-fronts,LCR60-center,600 s3-surrounds,600 s30-surround back and a velodyne cht-12/Im thinking of adding a generic speakers as my presence.do you think it's a good idea?

Hi bigbird, cguro pwede rin kc pang additional effects lang naman cya eh.  Sa akin naman, I use JBL speakers for my front/rears and PSB for the center.  Cguro by next month bli na ako ng spkrs for the surround back. Am thinking of the mission model naman.  ;)  
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Jan 10, 2004 at 11:48 PM
Mga Sirs,

Wag naman po sana masamain. Pero may comment or question lang ako about sa confirmation ng Yamaha kay e1kad2 about the DACs being used for RX-V740 series.

Accoriding to this link,
http://www.asahi-kasei.co.jp/akm/en/product/ak4381/ak4381.html (http://www.asahi-kasei.co.jp/akm/en/product/ak4381/ak4381.html), yung DAC AK4381 is a 192kHz 24-Bit 2ch DAC, na sabi sa iyo ng Yamaha ay ginagamit nila sa main L&R channels.

Pero according to this link naman, http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/RECEIVER/RX-V740.htm (http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/RECEIVER/RX-V740.htm), the RX-V740 has 96kHz/24-bit DACs for all channels.

Conflicting po yata yung information.

Di kaya mali ang claim or information na binigay nila, sir?

Nagtatanong lang po.

Salamat,
Bogs



Thanks Bogs. Hayaan mo, send ako ulit ng e-mail sa Yamaha. Cguro nagkamili lang nga sya nung exact model. Baka nalito. hehehe...
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: johndoe on Jan 13, 2004 at 05:50 PM
meron ba kayo nakikitang rxv-340? how much? 8)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dagul27 on Jan 13, 2004 at 09:14 PM
Good day to all.I'm planning on buying the RXV-440 model.i have two pioneer speakers that are rated at 6ohms and 50watts.ok lang po ba sya? sayang kasi yung speakers.thanks in advance.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: johndoe on Jan 13, 2004 at 09:25 PM
pwede for surrounds ung pioneeer mo cguro..but not in the main speakers.. 8) 440 is rated at 90wx6 @ 8 ohms kasi
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dagul27 on Jan 13, 2004 at 09:40 PM
Thanks for the quick response :).
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Jan 14, 2004 at 10:02 AM
Thanks Bogs. Hayaan mo, send ako ulit ng e-mail sa Yamaha. Cguro nagkamili lang nga sya nung exact model. Baka nalito. hehehe...

Bogs,

According to Yamaha's e-mail confirmation, the DAC's model they have given me are correct.  They are just being use in 96/24 mode. Here's their e-mail.

"Hi, it is the correct DAC. It is being used in the 96/24 mode only.

 

Thank you,

 

Mathew Hubbard

Service Manager

AVIT Group

Yamaha Canada Music LTD.

135 Milner Ave. Scarborough, Ontario

M1S 3R1"

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimosabe on Jan 14, 2004 at 11:35 AM
Good day to all.I'm planning on buying the RXV-440 model.i have two pioneer speakers that are rated at 6ohms and 50watts.ok lang po ba sya? sayang kasi yung speakers.thanks in advance.

Ako rin gusto kong bumili ng 440 and meron din akong speakers na Sony na 6 ohms di ko lang sure yung wattage nya. Pero sabi dun sa box ng mini-compo ko eh 4400 watts daw. Ok lang bang gamitin ko yung speaker ko? wala pa kasing pera pabili ng speaker avr lang. Thanks.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on Jan 14, 2004 at 11:45 AM
Technically pwede nyong gamitin yang mga speakers na yan, wag nyo ng lang i-overdrive or overpower..... mas mag put ng kayo ng concern sa impedance rating range.

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Garp on Jan 15, 2004 at 11:18 AM
.... mas mag put ng kayo ng concern sa impedance rating range.


Or I think more importantly, sensitivity nung speakers.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dagul27 on Jan 15, 2004 at 12:10 PM
Bibili na lang ako ng bagong speakers.meron kasi akong nakita na speakers,Fluance ang brand.2 tower,2 bookshelf,1 center $199 lang sa Fluance.com and ebay.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Daemon_Seraphim on Jan 20, 2004 at 02:40 AM
mga sirs, ano po bang mga speaker brands ang kayand i-drive ng Yamaha? (RX-V640)  

 
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Jan 20, 2004 at 02:52 PM
mga sirs, ano po bang mga speaker brands ang kayand i-drive ng Yamaha? (RX-V640)  

 

Basically everything from 4-8 ohms impedance.  But I would prefer speakers that has high sensitivity.  ;)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: rapeez on Jan 21, 2004 at 01:55 PM
using yamaha 440 while in a middle of watching movie automatically shut-off then i started to re-open it and it shows on the panel "CHECK SP WIRE" ayos naman lahat ng connection + to +, - to -, la naman lose connection bigla na lng namatay la naman gumagalaw. besides i've been using it for quite sometime now ngayon lang nagyari yun. anyone experiencing this kind of problem or yammy factory defect. what should i do? need your help yammy gurus. thx.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: johnlen on Jan 21, 2004 at 02:16 PM
rapez,

looks like a shorted speaker conection to me, the protection circuit kicks in to shut off the receiver to prevent further damage.

please check the wires from end to end. do this for all of the speakers.

hope this helps.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: rapeez on Jan 21, 2004 at 02:35 PM
johnlen, thnks for ur insights. probably yes but all was thouroughly check.

just i tried when watching if it's under PLII2: Movie and other DSP mode working naman siya but then if i'm using under DSP mode: NEO6: CINEMA dun nag shut-off den appears on the screen still "CHECK SP WIRES" just wonderin may connection ba yung kung anong DSP mode ang gamit? pls. clear my understanding. thx.


rapez,

looks like a shorted speaker conection to me, the protection circuit kicks in to shut off the receiver to prevent further damage.

please check the wires from end to end. do this for all of the speakers.

hope this helps.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: johnlen on Jan 21, 2004 at 02:41 PM
rapeez,

you mean pag DSP mode: NEO6: CINEMA lang nag sha-shut off? all other DSP modes, including 2 channel stereo ok sya?

i don't have a yammy receiver pero mukhang me problema yang unit mo. let us wait for the comments of others. this is just my initial and very general impression.

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: rapeez on Jan 21, 2004 at 03:18 PM
johnlen, yes indeed ur understanding is right. cguro nga factory defect. any other idea from gurus.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Jan 23, 2004 at 10:49 AM
Bring your unit to Yamaha service center or if it still under warranty, bring it to where you bought it.  ;)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: rapeez on Jan 23, 2004 at 02:24 PM
Quote from: e1kadlink=board=10;threadid=1622;start=860#msg299214 date=1074826147
Bring your unit to Yamaha service center or if it still under warranty, bring it to where you bought it.  ;)
Quote

e1kadlink, just went to spectra along with the unit. initial impression try to set first my player to "DTS ON" coz any other DSP mode can be played except NEO:6 CINEMA. hmmm, still not convince though but i try.

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sgc_wdi on Jan 23, 2004 at 03:05 PM
question lang, how do I make a DVD with stereo sounds play on my 5.1 speakers, using all speakers? I tried every setting na, pro login II, neo 6, etc... pero yung front channels lang gumagana...

I am using Yamaha RXV-1300... DVD Player is connected to receiver via fiber optic cable...

tnx!  :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: rapeez on Jan 23, 2004 at 03:14 PM
sgc_wdi, u mean source is audio cd and u want to make it 5.1? try ur setting to matrix. MATRIX mode settings can decode stereo source to 6.1 as long as 6.1 capability.

correct me if i'm wrong. thx.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Jan 23, 2004 at 04:34 PM
question lang, how do I make a DVD with stereo sounds play on my 5.1 speakers, using all speakers? I tried every setting na, pro login II, neo 6, etc... pero yung front channels lang gumagana...

I am using Yamaha RXV-1300... DVD Player is connected to receiver via fiber optic cable...

tnx!  :)

Set your AVR to DVD Auto. It should make use of the FO cable. Then choose DSP Prologic II, etc. Sound should be heard to each of the speakers.

To check connections, try running speaker test. You should here a test tone from each speaker.  

Hope this helps.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sgc_wdi on Jan 24, 2004 at 02:14 PM
rapeez, I'm playing DVD anime movie, but it's only stereo, and I noticed that while playing, only the front speakers work, the rears don't...

e1kad2, I actually have my settings on Auto already, and I tried different settings, prologic 2, neo 6, etc... All speakers are working fine on test, but still, I only get stereo sound, the rear speakers don't work..

any ideas?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: junji98 on Jan 24, 2004 at 02:40 PM
set your dsp to 5 channel stereo.  you should have output from all speakers.  ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sgc_wdi on Jan 26, 2004 at 11:44 AM
thanks junji98, I'll try that, pero isn't it pro logic 2 or neo 6 is supposed to have stereo come out on all speakers already?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Jan 26, 2004 at 02:50 PM
Did you use also the analog input of your DVD besides the FO? Pls. try. Baka sakali lang.  ;)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Jan 27, 2004 at 11:34 AM
meron ba kayo nakikitang rxv-340? how much? 8)

12.5K sa sights n sound park square c/o Tina
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sgc_wdi on Jan 27, 2004 at 11:34 AM
am using FO lang, wala akong analog cables eh, I remembered playing CDs before, it played on all 5 speakers... was wondering why this DVD plays on only 2...
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Jan 29, 2004 at 12:20 AM
am using FO lang, wala akong analog cables eh, I remembered playing CDs before, it played on all 5 speakers... was wondering why this DVD plays on only 2...

Any suggestions from other gurus out there?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: LtCool on Jan 29, 2004 at 08:11 AM
Check your speaker settings on the AVR, maybe you disable the surround and center channels in the DVD input, is DD or DTS lights up on your AVR?

have you tried playing DVDs using CD FO input of your AVR? If sound outputs on all channel check your DVD input settings on your AVR.

or maybe your source DVD is encoded on stereo only, but Matrix setting should produce sounds on all channels.

Cheers,
-LtCool-
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sgc_wdi on Jan 30, 2004 at 12:01 PM
Check your speaker settings on the AVR, maybe you disable the surround and center channels in the DVD input, is DD or DTS lights up on your AVR?

have you tried playing DVDs using CD FO input of your AVR? If sound outputs on all channel check your DVD input settings on your AVR.

or maybe your source DVD is encoded on stereo only, but Matrix setting should produce sounds on all channels.

Cheers,
-LtCool-

Yes my DVD is encoded in stereo only, I've always thought that Pro Logic or Neo is supposed to make 2 channels output in 5 speakers, baligtad pala?

So Pro Logic 2 and Neo is supposed to make DD/DTS play in 2 speakers?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: indridcold on Jan 30, 2004 at 12:20 PM
bro pro logic 2 will emulate multi channel out put. For example you pop in a cd which is recorded in stereo mode, PLII will convert the out put to multichannel.

Are you using coax or optic to connect the dvd player to AVR. Check connections. Check din speaker cables.

Of course the conversion from streo to 5.1 will not be as faithful as a dvd originally encoded in 5.1 but still you will notice that the vocals will primarily come from the center channel and the instruments from the L and R and sometimes SR and SL.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: indridcold on Jan 30, 2004 at 12:23 PM
The out put will also depend on how the dvd was encoded. you will notice that in some dvds the rear channels are rarely used. Nevertheless PL2 should give you some semblance of a 5.1 encoding. BTW what brand is your dvd player?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: LtCool on Feb 01, 2004 at 05:00 AM
Yes my DVD is encoded in stereo only, I've always thought that Pro Logic or Neo is supposed to make 2 channels output in 5 speakers, baligtad pala?

So Pro Logic 2 and Neo is supposed to make DD/DTS play in 2 speakers?

Sorry Sir I mixed-up my post DPL2 decodes stereo source into 5 channel output.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wavsubz on Feb 01, 2004 at 05:34 AM
hello guys! I've checked V440 wla pala syang S-video sa back panel, if my DVD player has S-video hindi ko na sya makakabit sa V440? Is there a difference if Im goin to connect directly to TV? suggestion po!
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bongerds on Feb 01, 2004 at 06:56 AM
hello guys! I've checked V440 wla pala syang S-video sa back panel, if my DVD player has S-video hindi ko na sya makakabit sa V440? Is there a difference if Im goin to connect directly to TV? suggestion po!

You'll encounter problem if you have more than 1 video sources with S-video dahil you cannot do video switching with S-video.  In that case you have to unplug the s-video cable from your dvd and plug to another source or you will use composite video of your AVR to your other sources so you can easily switch from one to another.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: freak on Feb 01, 2004 at 08:03 AM
mga sir, saan po ba makakabili ng pinakamurang 440 at anong mai suggest nyo sa akin na kamatch niya na speakers(front).  i'll be using it for music and home theater purposes. thanks
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: zakkaz on Feb 01, 2004 at 10:23 AM
u can try spectra @ parksquare 1
mga sir, saan po ba makakabili ng pinakamurang 440 at anong mai suggest nyo sa akin na kamatch niya na speakers(front).  i'll be using it for music and home theater purposes. thanks
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jowa627 on Feb 01, 2004 at 03:52 PM
mga sir, saan po ba makakabili ng pinakamurang 440 at anong mai suggest nyo sa akin na kamatch niya na speakers(front).  i'll be using it for music and home theater purposes. thanks
try mo sa sound dimenson sa park square 1 13.5t n lang yta
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: freak on Feb 01, 2004 at 03:57 PM
thanks guys
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Archie on Feb 01, 2004 at 09:48 PM
Hi all.

i'm more bent on the 640 because of it front inputs.
Is it worth it for the PS2 games?

Or maybe the 440 instead, the coax for the ps2, and the digital input for the dvd, or vice versa. please suggest?

tnx
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: johndoe on Feb 01, 2004 at 11:28 PM
it really depend on ur budget..  8) if your budget permits,go for 640..or the 540.. 8)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MJ-JM on Feb 02, 2004 at 11:25 AM
mga sir, saan po ba makakabili ng pinakamurang 440 at anong mai suggest nyo sa akin na kamatch niya na speakers(front).  i'll be using it for music and home theater purposes. thanks

sir,

go to SPECTRA and look for sir JIM. also try auditioning it w/ AE EVO3. ganda ng tunog nyan sir. :)

HTNovice
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: rapeez on Feb 02, 2004 at 11:34 AM
sir,

go to SPECTRA and look for sir JIM. also try auditioning it w/ AE EVO3. ganda ng tunog nyan sir. :)

HTNovice

dude,

was there to audition yammy with AE speakers.( d ba HTnovice) sobrang smooth ang mids and high nya. you might try other combination though. just my one cent.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MJ-JM on Feb 02, 2004 at 11:38 AM
dude,

was there to audition yammy with AE speakers.( d ba HTnovice) sobrang smooth ang mids and high nya. you might try other combination though. just my one cent.

yahama is known for being bright... pero with AE swabe ang tunog ng mids and his.. ok din with LF. my 10 centavo coin lang po.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Feb 02, 2004 at 12:23 PM
neutralization is the key
bright receiver + warm speaker = perfect listening experience
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: rapeez on Feb 02, 2004 at 12:25 PM
neutralization is the key
bright receiver + warm speaker = perfect listening experience

kimpoy,

perfect equation you've got there.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sgc_wdi on Feb 02, 2004 at 12:28 PM
bro pro logic 2 will emulate multi channel out put. For example you pop in a cd which is recorded in stereo mode, PLII will convert the out put to multichannel.

Are you using coax or optic to connect the dvd player to AVR. Check connections. Check din speaker cables.

Of course the conversion from streo to 5.1 will not be as faithful as a dvd originally encoded in 5.1 but still you will notice that the vocals will primarily come from the center channel and the instruments from the L and R and sometimes SR and SL.

I see, so I was right pala. Exactly my problem, I have a DVD encoded in stereo sounds, but whenever I play it, using Pro Logic II or Neo 6, it only plays on 2 speakers... I am connecting it via fiber optic, and all speakers are ok, cause when I play normal 5.1 DVDs, all speakers are active... So I was wondering how come this DVD plays on only 2 speakers with PL2 or Neo6?

My DVD Players is Pioneer DV-S733A.... or I think in the US it's DV-47A Elite...

I've tried audio CDs and it plays on all speakers, pero this DVD plays only on 2 speakers...
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Feb 02, 2004 at 12:39 PM
kimpoy,

perfect equation you've got there.

yup plus a "warm" speaker cable

vivian velez!!! (bilog na bilog, punong puno ng katawan!!!)
sorry cant help it.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Feb 04, 2004 at 10:14 AM
U said it man...hehehe :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bigbird2323 on Feb 04, 2004 at 02:01 PM
hi E1kad2,Do u know of ashortcut to turn of the sub off when listeing to stereo without having to go to the setup in our rxv1400.my other reciever  the marantz 4300 has preferences.is there a similar function to this.i guess im having too much bass in stereo and do you know the technical diff between stereo and direct stereo
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jowa627 on Feb 04, 2004 at 08:06 PM
my friend and i were shopping for front and center speaker and a sales person on one of the shop( w/c i will not mention ) in park square 1 told us that my lumalabas na daw na "pirated o low quality na yammy 440" na made in singapore kya daw mura nilang binibenta compare to denon & onkyo na mahirap daw icopy, is that sales person telling the truth, can someone verify this...makes me wonder kc i`m just starting to set-up my HT and i just bought may yammy 440 last december (though not same shop but same price). Made in malaysia daw yung original... any comment guys.
tnx
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wavsubz on Feb 04, 2004 at 09:38 PM
Yes! Rx440 is made in malaysia but the parts are from Japan ganun din ang sinabi sa akin sa greenhills eh. Meron naman akong nakita na Harman K receiver that are made in China i think, I dunno the parts.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Toquero on Feb 04, 2004 at 10:00 PM
my friend and i were shopping for front and center speaker and a sales person on one of the shop( w/c i will not mention ) in park square 1 told us that my lumalabas na daw na "pirated o low quality na yammy 440" na made in singapore kya daw mura nilang binibenta compare to denon & onkyo na mahirap daw icopy, is that sales person telling the truth, can someone verify this...makes me wonder kc i`m just starting to set-up my HT and i just bought may yammy 440 last december (though not same shop but same price). Made in malaysia daw yung original... any comment guys.
tnx

Yo dude,

Medyo alarming yan ah.... Bumili rin ako last December yan. Pero one thing is for sure yung price niya is actually retail price yan bakit kamo?..... Kasi when I bought my yammy ,I tried to find foreign reviews related to this product in the internet and most of them were saying na ito ang pinaka murang entry level na reciever na lumabas sa market .Even ebay and other e-store recommend this product as a best buy based on its performance and cost. Sa mga nabasa kong review sa google ata yun... mga taga us at uk pa yung napopost na halos pareho ang comments lalo na sa cost.

IMHO may factors kung bakit mas mura siya ibang brands of the same power rating isa na rito yung no of connections niya sa likod. Mapupuna mo na optical output lang ang pwede mong gamitin sa digital out ng DVD. Yung coax ay para sa cd player in lang..... Sa iba kasi pwede both coax and optical cable ang gamitin para sa digital out. Second, Yung connections niya compare sa ibang brands and model simple lang kaya nga entry level. And lastly cguro yung model na ito inilabas lang on a particular month lalo na yung titanium series. Sa Internet meron na nito bago pa lang dumating sa pinas ito ibinebenta na ito sa labas.

Cguro sana tama ang hinala ko , yung nakasuap ninyong salesman ay palaging napagtatanugnan ng rxv440 kasi maganda yung naging benta at matunog sa mga enthusiast at hindi na mabili o napag iiwanan na sa sales yung ibang model at brand nila. Ala na rin silang stock kaya cguro cnacabi nila iyon para bumili ka na lang ng ibang brand. Eh hindi naman lahat ng HT enthusiast ay may moolah para gumastos ng 20T up for a reciever.  At saka kung mababasa mo sa ibang thread may lumabas din issue na yung Denon na mahina rin ang klase. Ang alam ko may nagbentang isang store na refurbished or repaired na na inireklamo at inopen dito sa forum.  

Halos lahat ng electronics merchandise maging sa tv at compo halos lahat galing malaysia. I don't know if its a coincidence. Kung mayroon mang product na galing sa singapore, bakit on all asian countries dito pa sila gagawa ng peke eh ang sobrang higpit dito... Pwede cguro made in china at taiwan.

Hay naku mahaba na naman yung isinulat ko. Bantayan na lang natin cguro yung mga ganitong issues para mabigyan natin gn warning yung ibang enthusiast sa home hteater ......

more power to you all..

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jowa627 on Feb 04, 2004 at 10:57 PM
maybe your right, medyo malakas yung benta ng 440 cause of the price, and bigla nyang (salesperson) i-offer yung onkyo  na much higher yng price, like i said we were there to look for speaker not for amp kaya di namin masyado pinansin.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Feb 05, 2004 at 12:37 AM
"pirated o low quality na yammy 440" na made in singapore ...

Pre,  galing din ng Malaysia ang Yamaha 440 dito.   Oversupply kasi kaya binebenta na ng mas mura.


Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Toquero on Feb 05, 2004 at 07:01 AM
Pre,  galing din ng Malaysia ang Yamaha 440 dito.   Oversupply kasi kaya binebenta na ng mas mura.



:-\ yan minsan ang hirap sa iba nating pilipino businessman sila na rin ang sumisira sa produktong ibinebenta nila. Basta makabenta gagawa ng alibi. Pero bakit nung marami silang stock sabi nila ok ito at maganda ang review may sticker pa nga itong naka attach na certified award winning product sabi ng isa sa mga store owners diyan.... I know mahirap negosyo ngayon sa lahat ng kalakaran pero they should have business ethics. Dapat sinasabihan nila yung mga salesperson to refrain from making black propaganda on those products kung wala namang actual na basihan. Usually may mga formal publications sila ibinibigay o pinopost galing mismo sa main distributor dito tungkol dito para di masira yung pangalan sa market. Has anyone from the forum know the name of the official disributor/ importer of these products.

Kung alam ko lang sana yug pangalan ng tindahan na iyan di ko na sila bibilhan.... I will not be surprised if someday may issue na lalabas na DENON, HARMAN and DENOn and the likes..
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wavsubz on Feb 05, 2004 at 07:18 PM
Maraming lumabas na refurbished na ibinebenta sa site na Onkyo at Denon na mura, nung tinawagan ko yung toll free number nila sabi may konting damage yung kaha hinahanap ko nga yung sa Yamaha wla pa akong makita eh.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Feb 05, 2004 at 08:08 PM
Yo dude,
IMHO may factors kung bakit mas mura siya ibang brands of the same power rating isa na rito yung no of connections niya sa likod. Mapupuna mo na optical output lang ang pwede mong gamitin sa digital out ng DVD. Yung coax ay para sa cd player in lang..... Sa iba kasi pwede both coax and optical cable ang gamitin para sa digital out .  

dude torquero,
sa page 42 ng user manual, pwede mong i assign ang input output connection.
im using digital coaxial as my DVD input
analog naman para sa CD input ko.

as for the rumors
you cannot put a good brand down, sikat na kasi ang yamaha, imagine 6.1 na under 14K nobody can beat that
 
 
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: johndoe on Feb 05, 2004 at 09:29 PM
when u say bright.it doesnt mean di na maganda..kaya ganun dahil medyo high ang THD nila kesa sa high priced recievers.few even notice that..
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Toquero on Feb 06, 2004 at 06:42 AM
dude torquero,
sa page 42 ng user manual, pwede mong i assign ang input output connection.
im using digital coaxial as my DVD input
analog naman para sa CD input ko.

as for the rumors
you cannot put a good brand down, sikat na kasi ang yamaha, imagine 6.1 na under 14K nobody can beat that

tapos kesyo bright daw, bakit yung fender stratocaster mas preferred kesa gibson les paul (these are guitars)
both are good guitars naman

 
To dude, actually nacheck k itong connection at nasubukan ko na ito. So pwede palang gamitin uyng coax for dvd. Sorry tao lang po. Anyways, you are right about that. Thanks for the info bro.

Well anyways hindi talaga kayang makapag compete ng ibang brands sa yamaha in terms of cost. Kasi sa tingin ko parang business strategy din yan ng Intel. Remember Nung inilabas nila yung P4 nila ala masyado pang bumili nun kasi masyadong mahal compared sa competitor nila. So what they did naglabas sila ng Celeron processor na PV technology(socket 478)  na rin. Entry level na P4 na binawasan ng cache , maraming bumili nito at lumaki ang market share nila. nakuha nila pati Class B & C consumer. Nabawi rin nila yung R&D expenses nila sa pentium 4 flatform. Kasi the same microchip technology din naman ang ginamit nila binawasan lang nila ng cache memory. Sinasubsidize nila yung campaign for celeron processor to compensate expenses made during the development of P4.
Ganun din sa A/V reciever ng Yamaha, I think the same DSP chip tehnology din ang ginagamit nila sa new higher models nila . Mayroon mang modifications very minimal para sa R&D. In other words, itong product na ito ang pinambawi nila to cover R&D expenses nung nadevelop nila yung chip. Well its only my opinion...

Bottom line, maganda yung product talaga.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Feb 06, 2004 at 07:55 AM
To dude, actually nacheck k itong connection at nasubukan ko na ito. So pwede palang gamitin uyng coax for dvd. Sorry tao lang po. Anyways, you are right about that. Thanks for the info bro.
 

Dude no need to say sorry, lahat tayo dumaan diyan.
Dude (where's my car) ano nga pala ang set up mo?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Feb 06, 2004 at 10:09 AM
To dude, actually nacheck k itong connection at nasubukan ko na ito. So pwede palang gamitin uyng coax for dvd. Sorry tao lang po. Anyways, you are right about that. Thanks for the info bro.

Well anyways hindi talaga kayang makapag compete ng ibang brands sa yamaha in terms of cost. Kasi sa tingin ko parang business strategy din yan ng Intel. Remember Nung inilabas nila yung P4 nila ala masyado pang bumili nun kasi masyadong mahal compared sa competitor nila. So what they did naglabas sila ng Celeron processor na PV technology(socket 478)  na rin. Entry level na P4 na binawasan ng cache , maraming bumili nito at lumaki ang market share nila. nakuha nila pati Class B & C consumer. Nabawi rin nila yung R&D expenses nila sa pentium 4 flatform. Kasi the same microchip technology din naman ang ginamit nila binawasan lang nila ng cache memory. Sinasubsidize nila yung campaign for celeron processor to compensate expenses made during the development of P4.
Ganun din sa A/V reciever ng Yamaha, I think the same DSP chip tehnology din ang ginagamit nila sa new higher models nila . Mayroon mang modifications very minimal para sa R&D. In other words, itong product na ito ang pinambawi nila to cover R&D expenses nung nadevelop nila yung chip. Well its only my opinion...

Bottom line, maganda yung product talaga.

You are right! And it is a no-argument sentiment. Yamaha established its reputation. In 2001, the RX-V620 beats all the contender in What hifi supertest (includes Onkyo, Harman, Denon, Pioneer). In 2002, RX-V630 was voted by EISA organization (europe organization for quality audio/video gear comprising of all audio/video reviewer and magazines) as the best buy (quality performance and cost). In 2003, RX-V440 won the EISA award. Yamaha egged all the competition. So the competition should be creative enough to weaken Yamaha position in the Audio/HT market. This should not be surprising though.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Feb 06, 2004 at 10:39 AM
In 2003, RX-V440 won the EISA award

this is the clincher why i chose the 440 over other entry level brand
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Feb 06, 2004 at 12:10 PM
hi E1kad2,Do u know of ashortcut to turn of the sub off when listeing to stereo without having to go to the setup in our rxv1400.my other reciever  the marantz 4300 has preferences.is there a similar function to this.i guess im having too much bass in stereo and do you know the technical diff between stereo and direct stereo

Hi Bigbird, just read ur post 2day as I was out. Anyway, walang function tulad sa marantz eh. u really need 2 go sa setup or turn ur sub power off. Have u tried using the LFE to sub out only? Baka naka both ka kaya masyado malakas yung bass sa stereo. Try mo ganito set-up  if there will be an improvement. As for the difference, here's the link 4 u to better appreciate.

http://audioholics.com/FAQs/YamahaRXV-2400.html
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Feb 06, 2004 at 12:12 PM
Dude no need to say sorry, lahat tayo dumaan diyan.
Dude (where's my car) ano nga pala ang set up mo?

Dre, kaw ba yung sa tsikot.com?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Feb 06, 2004 at 12:16 PM
one of only bro!

eto naman link ng review sa award winning RXV-440

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article.asp?print_page=y&section_id=3&article_id=514&page_number=2&preview=
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Bogsle on Feb 07, 2004 at 04:27 PM
Guys,

I would like to share with you this link:

http://www.hometheaterspot.com/htsthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=547704&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=31&fpart=1 (http://www.hometheaterspot.com/htsthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=547704&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=31&fpart=1)

This thread discusses about actual DACs (even chip numbers/IDs) being used for RX-V2400 and RX-V1400. Ang galing ha, meron talagang nag tyagang magbukas ng RX-V2400 nya para lang makita yung chips sa loob.

It seems there are no burr-brown DACs in either of these A/V systems as we initially knew.

Just sharing....

bogsle
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: reggie on Feb 08, 2004 at 12:43 PM
hello there,

Meron  ba kayong alam na reviews about RXV-540 kasi I just bought one together with the 320 speaker package.

Thanks.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wavsubz on Feb 08, 2004 at 04:21 PM
hello Reggie!
    Magkano kuha mo sa RXV-540 and where? Buti ka pa meron na.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Feb 09, 2004 at 08:04 AM
reggie, congrats
yang 540 is similar to the 440
marami lang ang digital input, S-Video and 75W per channel vs 65W ng 440

we share the  same user manual
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: redmagic on Feb 09, 2004 at 02:41 PM

Help! I need your feedback. Yammy 440 with AE EVO 3 or MA B4 set-up. Feedback naman o. Torn between the two. Maui o Francine? Baka sakali maliwanagan ako. La pa time to audition eh. Help!
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Feb 09, 2004 at 04:05 PM
pm mo si kimpao, naka yamaha 730 yan at na try na din niya yung B4 niya sa yammy 730
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MJ-JM on Feb 09, 2004 at 06:36 PM

Help! I need your feedback. Yammy 440 with AE EVO 3 or MA B4 set-up. Feedback naman o. Torn between the two. Maui o Francine? Baka sakali maliwanagan ako. La pa time to audition eh. Help!

sir,

Heard the yamaha + evo3 combo... IMO satified naman... sabi nga eh "bright receiver + warm speaker = perfect combi" or something like that... pm mo si sir rapeez... he has this setup... di manipis yung tunog ng EVO3 sa 440 buo pa rin ang bass... you can also audition sa spectra o sa archi audio... havent heard b4 though. gud luck

htnovice
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jowa627 on Feb 10, 2004 at 12:19 AM

Help! I need your feedback. Yammy 440 with AE EVO 3 or MA B4 set-up. Feedback naman o. Torn between the two. Maui o Francine? Baka sakali maliwanagan ako. La pa time to audition eh. Help!
Nung nabili ko yung yammy 440 yang yung set-up nila (AE EVO 3 and yammy 440) ganda ng tunog, buong-buo yung bass pati si misis bilib, ganda daw so we ended up buying the yammy, next na lang yung EVO 3 ipon muna ako.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: reggie on Feb 10, 2004 at 09:01 AM
hello Reggie!
    Magkano kuha mo sa RXV-540 and where? Buti ka pa meron na.


Medyo mahal ko nga lang siya na nakuha kasi credit card ginamit ko P19,500 sa Cinema n style (Filinvest Alabang)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Feb 10, 2004 at 10:58 AM
Nung nabili ko yung yammy 440 yang yung set-up nila (AE EVO 3 and yammy 440) ganda ng tunog, buong-buo yung bass pati si misis bilib, ganda daw so we ended up buying the yammy, next na lang yung EVO 3 ipon muna ako.

Bro, how much yung EVO 3, and where can I audition it? thanks
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: akyatbundok on Feb 10, 2004 at 11:09 AM
Heard the yamaha + evo3 combo... IMO satified naman... sabi nga eh "bright receiver + warm speaker = perfect combi" or something like that... pm mo si sir rapeez... he has this setup... di manipis yung tunog ng EVO3 sa 440 buo pa rin ang bass...

finally, yammies have a match for singing good music... why didn't i think of that before?  yamaha + AE owners could you post your impressions?  thanks!
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: cousin skeeter on Feb 10, 2004 at 11:15 AM
read somewhere that the x40 series is "less bright and warmer" than the older x30 series. i wonder if anyone can attest to this. havent auditioned any of the x40 models yet.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: rapeez on Feb 10, 2004 at 11:55 AM
finally, yammies have a match for singing good music... why didn't i think of that before?  yamaha + AE owners could you post your impressions?  thanks!

akyat, indeed right! when i audition yammy + evo3 ganda sa HT but when they match with harman kardon  d maganda sa HT but when they played music superb! IMO rili defend sa amp or vice versa. good matching is very important. i guess since i'm more of a HT man galing ng yammy + evo3 combi. since it's still inder break-in period i tried playing music ganda rin pala kahit sa music. buong-buo ang bass also of course the mid and high. if i rated it yammy + evo3 combi i must say 95% HT, 80% music. again based on my experience. AUDITION IS STILL THE KEY! Gud luck.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Feb 10, 2004 at 12:17 PM

Help! I need your feedback. Yammy 440 with AE EVO 3 or MA B4 set-up. Feedback naman o. Torn between the two. Maui o Francine? Baka sakali maliwanagan ako. La pa time to audition eh. Help!

AE EVO 3 or MA B4, well, it would really depend on your choice bro.  but you still have to consider speaker wires to use, as the yammy/B4 combi can be bright depending on your choice of music.  the ecosse was able to tame this brightness but again this is just me.  i still have to test it again since my B4s' are now broken-in.  you can drop by my place to audition it if you like (hawaan kita ng SARS!!!!! ;D ;D ;D)  Maui o Francine?! hmmm, can't say because either the two panalo ka.  PM mo lang ako, bro, i'll be glad to help out.   :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Feb 11, 2004 at 07:56 AM
read somewhere that the x40 series is "less bright and warmer" than the older x30 series. i wonder if anyone can attest to this. havent auditioned any of the x40 models yet.

i have, napansin ko rin na mas bilog ang x40 nung nasa spectra kasi ako bright lang ng kaunti ang yammy sa HK,
pero nung try ko yung x30 medyo nakaka listening fatigue at louder volumes.
but that's just me
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Feb 11, 2004 at 10:18 AM
i have, napansin ko rin na mas bilog ang x40 nung nasa spectra kasi ako bright lang ng kaunti ang yammy sa HK,
pero nung try ko yung x30 medyo nakaka listening fatigue at louder volumes.
but that's just me

kaya ako, di ko ginagamit yung 630 sa audio ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: H a n $ on Feb 11, 2004 at 10:48 AM
Akyat,

heard the Yammy + EVo3 with sebman IMHO almost similar pa rin.. sa upscale mega ko audition.. ;)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: nowhearthis on Feb 12, 2004 at 02:23 PM
Quote
read somewhere that the x40 series is "less bright and warmer" than the older x30 series. i wonder if anyone can attest to this. havent auditioned any of the x40 models yet.

it's true. the x40 series is indeed less brighter than the previous models. if you want to hear how a 440 sounds on a b2, just PM me. you'll be surprised! :o
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wavsubz on Feb 13, 2004 at 02:47 AM
akyat, indeed right! when i audition yammy + evo3 ganda sa HT but when they match with harman kardon  d maganda sa HT but when they played music superb! IMO rili defend sa amp or vice versa. good matching is very important. i guess since i'm more of a HT man galing ng yammy + evo3 combi. since it's still inder break-in period i tried playing music ganda rin pala kahit sa music. buong-buo ang bass also of course the mid and high. if i rated it yammy + evo3 combi i must say 95% HT, 80% music. again based on my experience. AUDITION IS STILL THE KEY! Gud luck.

Sabi nga nila If you're into movies da best talaga Yamaha sa music naman HK, pero guys meron na ba dito sa PDVD who use Yamaha speakers? Ok din b to?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Feb 13, 2004 at 07:57 AM
it's true. the x40 series is indeed less brighter than the previous models. if you want to hear how a 440 sounds on a b2, just PM me. you'll be surprised! :o


yup, experience this also yamaha x40+B2 thats why i chose the yammy because konti lang ang difference from a "musical" receiver
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: akyatbundok on Feb 13, 2004 at 11:44 AM
pangarap ko din magkaroon ng yamaha receiver... balang araw! sana x400 series hehehe.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Feb 13, 2004 at 02:34 PM
pwede bang yung turntable sa 440 kahit wala akong phono in?

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Feb 13, 2004 at 02:39 PM
ano nanaman yan kimpoy. ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: akyatbundok on Feb 13, 2004 at 02:46 PM
hehehe pila na ba?  ;)  di ko pa nga mapagana dahil walang needle hehehe OT.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Feb 13, 2004 at 03:02 PM
kimpao, madami kasing plaka sa dau eh,
pwede kaya sa aux ko ilagay yung audio left and right?

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Feb 13, 2004 at 03:31 PM
pre ang kailangan mo ata dun is phono stage (guys correct me if i'm wrong) :), di siya pwede sa aux. sir OT na tayo niyan ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Feb 13, 2004 at 03:39 PM
yan na nga rin ang iniisip ko, just to be sure lang kaya nag tanong na rin ako dito.
kimps, di pa naman OT dahil connected pa rin sa 440

nga pala musta na ang tono mo? (OT ba)
bagay ba sa 440? (hindi na OT) he..he
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wavsubz on Feb 15, 2004 at 05:38 AM
Guys! I've heard that RXV540 has a video conversion connection (video to S-video & S-video to video) if Im not mistaken, I dont know if there's conversion of Component to S-video. Is this feature helps if your monitor hasn't a component output?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Mo®pHeOu$ on Feb 15, 2004 at 06:45 AM
 ;D ;D ;D

Saw sa Star newspaper some Yamaha receivers being sold less 40-50% off the original price.  some are packaged with speakers already.  You guys might wanna check it out.  Didn't catch the models but all of them have the DD-EX and DTS-ES 6.1 capability already with 95W x 5 channels.  ;)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on Feb 15, 2004 at 07:25 AM
;D ;D ;D

Saw sa Star newspaper some Yamaha receivers being sold less 40-50% off the original price.  some are packaged with speakers already.  You guys might wanna check it out.  Didn't catch the models but all of them have the DD-EX and DTS-ES 6.1 capability already with 95W x 5 channels.  ;)

http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=11;action=display;threadid=19193
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: redmagic on Feb 16, 2004 at 01:09 PM

thanks a lot guys! how can i survive the "HT & Audio world" without you. i guess PDVD makes life easier for newbies.  ;D ;D ;D

mabuhay kayong lahat!!!  ;)

waaahhh!!!! sayang B3!!!!
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: endless on Feb 18, 2004 at 05:53 PM
since the newer yamaha receivers have 6-7 channels, i have 2 questions:

1. i went to yamaha's site and saw that it got new sound format like dolby digital ex, dpl2, dts-es, dts-neo & etc., i was wondering, can it still support the 5.1 DD and DTS since most DVDs i think still uses 5.1 format?

2. what if i bought a 6 or 7 channel unit, but have only 5 speakers right now, what will happen if i use my existing speakers with these receivers? will it damage the receiver when the 6th or 7th channel is not yet use? what sound format will it use with the 5 speakers, will it use 5.1 DD/DTS as default?

thanks.  :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on Feb 18, 2004 at 06:06 PM
since the newer yamaha receivers have 6-7 channels, i have 2 questions:

1. i went to yamaha's site and saw that it got new sound format like dolby digital ex, dpl2, dts-es, dts-neo & etc., i was wondering, can it still support the 5.1 DD and DTS since most DVDs i think still uses 5.1 format?

Yes. And you have the option to select the mode for 5.1 sources, if you want it to be plain 5.1 or matrixed to 6.1

Quote
2. what if i bought a 6 or 7 channel unit, but have only 5 speakers right now, what will happen if i use my existing speakers with these receivers? will it damage the receiver when the 6th or 7th channel is not yet use?
thanks.  :)

I wont damage.

With receivers, you have the option to set the surround back channel (or every channels except fronts) to NONE. Basically you have options to set your system to 6.1, 5.1, 4.1 (center is OFF/NONE), 3.1 (Surround is off) or 2.1 (all surround and center channel is OFF/NONE).

Quote
what sound format will it use with the 5 speakers, will it use 5.1 DD/DTS as default?

If the source is 5.1 DD/DTS, the sound output will be 5.1DD/DTS.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: popeye on Feb 22, 2004 at 12:42 AM
up
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: CocoBoy on Feb 23, 2004 at 07:00 AM
Good AM.

If you were to choose between RX-V540 and RX-V730, which would you choose?  The 540 has DTS ES discrete and DTS NEO while 730 has DTS ES and DD EX.  I have a chance to buy any of the two at the same price.  Any inputs would be appreciated since I only have about two weeks of validity of offer.  Thanks

CocoBoy
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Feb 23, 2004 at 07:52 AM
useless naman ang Neo imho

pero sa q mo i get the 730
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Jason_10 on Feb 23, 2004 at 08:20 AM
pwede bang yung turntable sa 440 kahit wala akong phono in?



OT: u could get a 2 channel mixer with phono input.  was able to get one for less than 2k.

anyway how much na ba ngayob  yung 730 at 540?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Feb 23, 2004 at 10:17 AM
useless naman ang Neo imho

pero sa q mo i get the 730

I agree - you are just comparing vanilla flavoring - go for 730!
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Bogsle on Feb 23, 2004 at 11:46 AM
Sirs,

I have some questions.

When I do the Auto Setup for my RXV1400 it always set the following:

LFE Out = Both (Front LR and Sub)
LFE CrossOver = 200Hz.

Does the YPAO really defaults to using both Front LR Channels and Sub for Low Frequency Effect?

It always does that whenever I do the Auto Setup. I only want LFE on my Sub and not my Front LR channels.

Next, it always set the crossover frequency for my sub to 200Hz. I know 80Hz is THX standard and should be better. But do I continue using the 200Hz that's been set automatically for me?

What could be the reason why my sub is always set to 200Hz CrossOver frequency when I do autosetup?

Thanks for the help in advance.


Best Regards,
Bogle




Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: CocoBoy on Feb 23, 2004 at 01:24 PM
Thanks aHobbit and Kimpoy.  Feedback is much appreciated.  Will go for the 730!
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: nowhearthis on Feb 23, 2004 at 10:25 PM
Quote
If you were to choose between RX-V540 and RX-V730, which would you choose?  The 540 has DTS ES discrete and DTS NEO while 730 has DTS ES and DD EX.  I have a chance to buy any of the two at the same price.  Any inputs would be appreciated since I only have about two weeks of validity of offer.  Thanks

CocoBoy

I'd go for the 540. - improved power supply
-warmer sounding compared to previous models
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Feb 24, 2004 at 12:32 PM
Sirs,

I have some questions.

When I do the Auto Setup for my RXV1400 it always set the following:

LFE Out = Both (Front LR and Sub)
LFE CrossOver = 200Hz.

Does the YPAO really defaults to using both Front LR Channels and Sub for Low Frequency Effect?

It always does that whenever I do the Auto Setup. I only want LFE on my Sub and not my Front LR channels.

Next, it always set the crossover frequency for my sub to 200Hz. I know 80Hz is THX standard and should be better. But do I continue using the 200Hz that's been set automatically for me?

What could be the reason why my sub is always set to 200Hz CrossOver frequency when I do autosetup?

Thanks for the help in advance.


Best Regards,
Bogle






Bogsle, I'll run the YPAO again in my unit and post my results. By the way, where did u get ur RXV-1400?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Bogsle on Feb 24, 2004 at 01:41 PM
Bogsle, I'll run the YPAO again in my unit and post my results. By the way, where did u get ur RXV-1400?


Sir,

I did run it several times already. Could it be because of my speakers? I'm using JBL SCS178s for all my speakers, and JBL LX 2000 for my sub.

BTW, I got the RX-V1400 from Listening Room for PHP36,000.00 cash.

That's why I'm selling now my 6 month old RX-V440. Any takers?


Thanks,
Bogsle
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wolf666 on Feb 24, 2004 at 02:04 PM
e1kad2,

medyo confused kasi ako sa Straight setting ng rxv1400. Kapag ang source ko ay DTS or PL, ano difference kung Straight, Surround Standard at Surround Enhanced ang gagamitin ko? I know that Surr Enhanced adds extra processing for surround speakers which some yamaha users find exceptionally good. But I am not very sure of Straight and Surround Standard. Are they the same or one uses the PEQ and one does not???

Salamat in advance.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: darkwing on Feb 24, 2004 at 11:06 PM
BTW how much is the 440? Thanks.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: zakkaz on Feb 25, 2004 at 09:49 AM
BTW how much is the 440? Thanks.
try visit spectra @ parksquare 1
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MJ-JM on Feb 25, 2004 at 10:40 AM
BTW how much is the 440? Thanks.
14K sa spectra mga 2 weeks ago.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Bogsle on Feb 25, 2004 at 02:49 PM
Sirs,

Do you still configure the Treble and Bass before doing the autosetup on the RX-V1400?

How much Treble and Bass setting would you recommend, +3, +4, +6....? Or do you just leave it at zero (0) settings for both.

Thanks in advance.


Bogsle
 
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bogus on Feb 25, 2004 at 08:39 PM

That's why I'm selling now my 6 month old RX-V440. Any takers?


Thanks,
Bogsle


OT:
good day sir.
last price for the RX-V440? thanks.
bogus  8)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: docbacky on Feb 26, 2004 at 12:52 AM
Hi!

Any idea guys how much in peso are the following:                            
                       Yamaha RXV 430
                       Yamaha RXV 530
                       Yamaha RXV 630
                       Yamaha RXV 730
Thanks a lot...
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Bogsle on Feb 26, 2004 at 03:23 PM
OT:
good day sir.
last price for the RX-V440? thanks.
bogus  8)


Sir,

I'm kinda selling everything as a package. Please go to this link. http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=7;action=display;threadid=20195 (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=7;action=display;threadid=20195)

Thanks you for your interest.


Bogsle



Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wolf666 on Feb 26, 2004 at 05:47 PM
e1kad2,

medyo confused kasi ako sa Straight setting ng rxv1400. Kapag ang source ko ay DTS or PL, ano difference kung Straight, Surround Standard at Surround Enhanced ang gagamitin ko? I know that Surr Enhanced adds extra processing for surround speakers which some yamaha users find exceptionally good. But I am not very sure of Straight and Surround Standard. Are they the same or one uses the PEQ and one does not???

Salamat in advance.

anyone?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Toquero on Feb 26, 2004 at 08:33 PM
anyone?
yo dude,

May I butt in?... Any one can comment on this if I'm wrong.. yung option settings na nakikita mo sa AV mo I think inexplain ito sa manual nila. Kagaya rin ito sa RXV440, may DD/DTs lang at enhanced DD/DTS. Sa ganyang model I think yung Straight setting eto yung mismong original signal na galing sa bala ng dvd mismo (no additional DSP) processing done) Yung standard surround naman heto naman yung default settings na presets based on yamaha HT sound standards nila. it maybe different from one brand and the other. Tapos yung Enhanced surround naman heto yung ginamitan nila ng additional DSP processing as explained siguro sa manual nila na may additional paramater settings silang ginawa/ presets based on their actual research on sound environment( additional depth, delay ,equalizaton, reverb, etc...)for a given environment.

Hope medyo malinaw ng kaunti or at least yung logic alam mo. Kasi may mga listener na may special preferences pagdating sa sound encoding (flat or with additional effects) and some AV manufacturers see to it na may option silang ilalagay sa AV nila kasi the effect of this settings differs from every room environment. So they let the listener choose based on their ear preferences . Kaya nga Home Theater  dahil di naman standard most of the rooms na pinag gagamitan nito not unlike in theater rooms.

Kaya nga minsan its too odd to make some negative reactions on some threads pertaining to their owned AV brands kesyo mas maganda ito kaysa sa kanila ,flat daw, bitin ang tunog because hindi lang naman yung hardware ang nagiging basihan for a good sounding system. Di ba... Pero bottom line mas maraming settings na pagpipilian mas maganda Kasi you know na it took them some time for these manufacturers to design and build this AV receivers for the enjoyment of their patrons/ customers. Well that's just me......
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Feb 27, 2004 at 11:35 AM
Bogsle, I'll run the YPAO again in my unit and post my results. By the way, where did u get ur RXV-1400?

Bogsle,

I tried different settings on my sub then run the YPAO. The LFE crossover changes also. The LFE out points to both front and sub.  But since THX recommends the 80Hz, d2 ko sinetup yung crossover ko. Basically, I did not use the default setup ng YPAO on the type of spkr for the fronts and LFE out only. My set-up right now for the fronts is small and LFE to sub only. I prefer this kind of set-up.  I suggest you try experimenting it and choose the best sound performance. Sometimes, I do change pa nga settings of the built-in equa. Bottomline, the receiver is great. Bago ko ito binili, nag audition ako ng NAD, H/K, Marantz, Onkyo, Denon and I find the Yamaha rcvr better specially in HT with lots of feature and DSP's.  
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Feb 27, 2004 at 12:13 PM
e1kad2,

medyo confused kasi ako sa Straight setting ng rxv1400. Kapag ang source ko ay DTS or PL, ano difference kung Straight, Surround Standard at Surround Enhanced ang gagamitin ko? I know that Surr Enhanced adds extra processing for surround speakers which some yamaha users find exceptionally good. But I am not very sure of Straight and Surround Standard. Are they the same or one uses the PEQ and one does not???

Salamat in advance.

Wolf,
From what I understand, based on this link http://www.audioholics.com/FAQs/YamahaRXV-2400.html it disables cinema DSP's while allowing YPAO/PEQ.  In other way around, when you use your cinema DSP's, the straight mode is off.  :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Feb 27, 2004 at 12:26 PM
Sirs,

Do you still configure the Treble and Bass before doing the autosetup on the RX-V1400?

How much Treble and Bass setting would you recommend, +3, +4, +6....? Or do you just leave it at zero (0) settings for both.

Thanks in advance.


Bogsle
 

Bogsle, No need to configure the Bass and Treble b4 doing autosetup. For me, I leave the tone controls at default settings (0) cguro bec. I preferred the sound as it is.  Sometimes, I do change it bec. I'm in the mood to experiment like turning my sub off and moving the LFE to my fronts kc I'm using the old JBL models kahit na 8in. lang yung woofer lakas bumayo. hehehe... How much would you sell ur 440 alone?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: reggie on Feb 27, 2004 at 12:41 PM
Hi!

Any idea guys how much in peso are the following:                            
                       Yamaha RXV 430
                       Yamaha RXV 530
                       Yamaha RXV 630
                       Yamaha RXV 730
Thanks a lot...

docbacky,

I think sale ngayon lahat ng yamaha receivers na series *30 (430,530 etc.) up to 50% yata ang mga discounts. Try visiting Cinema in style sa filinvest alabang.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wolf666 on Feb 27, 2004 at 12:52 PM
yo dude,

May I butt in?... Any one can comment on this if I'm wrong.. yung option settings na nakikita mo sa AV mo I think inexplain ito sa manual nila. Kagaya rin ito sa RXV440, may DD/DTs lang at enhanced DD/DTS. Sa ganyang model I think yung Straight setting eto yung mismong original signal na galing sa bala ng dvd mismo (no additional DSP) processing done) Yung standard surround naman heto naman yung default settings na presets based on yamaha HT sound standards nila. it maybe different from one brand and the other. Tapos yung Enhanced surround naman heto yung ginamitan nila ng additional DSP processing as explained siguro sa manual nila na may additional paramater settings silang ginawa/ presets based on their actual research on sound environment( additional depth, delay ,equalizaton, reverb, etc...)for a given environment.

Hope medyo malinaw ng kaunti or at least yung logic alam mo. Kasi may mga listener na may special preferences pagdating sa sound encoding (flat or with additional effects) and some AV manufacturers see to it na may option silang ilalagay sa AV nila kasi the effect of this settings differs from every room environment. So they let the listener choose based on their ear preferences . Kaya nga Home Theater  dahil di naman standard most of the rooms na pinag gagamitan nito not unlike in theater rooms.

Kaya nga minsan its too odd to make some negative reactions on some threads pertaining to their owned AV brands kesyo mas maganda ito kaysa sa kanila ,flat daw, bitin ang tunog because hindi lang naman yung hardware ang nagiging basihan for a good sounding system. Di ba... Pero bottom line mas maraming settings na pagpipilian mas maganda Kasi you know na it took them some time for these manufacturers to design and build this AV receivers for the enjoyment of their patrons/ customers. Well that's just me......

salamat sa reply. I did not know who to address this query kase I don't know kung yung ibang model ng yamaha ay mayroong Straight mode. On top of this, mayroong YPAO EQ ang 1400 and 2400.

Sa manual nga explain the extra DSP processing for enhanced mode. But does that mean Standard is the same as Straight since no extra processing is involved? Or that they both do not add extra processing but one makes use of PEQ (parametric equalizer) and one does not? If this is the case, I would mostlu use Standard or Enhanced when watching DD/DTS sources.

Is anyone using 7channel stereo for 2channel source? whenever I am in this mode, mahina yung sound ng surround speakers against the main. Are they not suppose to be equal?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Bogsle on Feb 27, 2004 at 04:59 PM
Bogsle, No need to configure the Bass and Treble b4 doing autosetup. For me, I leave the tone controls at default settings (0) cguro bec. I preferred the sound as it is.  Sometimes, I do change it bec. I'm in the mood to experiment like turning my sub off and moving the LFE to my fronts kc I'm using the old JBL models kahit na 8in. lang yung woofer lakas bumayo. hehehe... How much would you sell ur 440 alone?


I could take 12k for it.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Mar 01, 2004 at 11:05 PM
salamat sa reply. I did not know who to address this query kase I don't know kung yung ibang model ng yamaha ay mayroong Straight mode. On top of this, mayroong YPAO EQ ang 1400 and 2400.

Sa manual nga explain the extra DSP processing for enhanced mode. But does that mean Standard is the same as Straight since no extra processing is involved? Or that they both do not add extra processing but one makes use of PEQ (parametric equalizer) and one does not? If this is the case, I would mostlu use Standard or Enhanced when watching DD/DTS sources.

Is anyone using 7channel stereo for 2channel source? whenever I am in this mode, mahina yung sound ng surround speakers against the main. Are they not suppose to be equal?

Wolf,
Censya na bro medyo bc. Anyway, I will check this weekend if indeed the straight and surround standard has the same settings on PEQ/EQ. From the link I've posted earlier, the straight mode make use of the YPAO/PEQ.  As for the 7channel stereo, the surround speaker  is weak maybe because its setup is set to small as they are not getting the heavier bass signal. To compensate, you may increase the level to +6db.  :)  
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: popeye on Mar 03, 2004 at 05:01 PM
bump
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: popeye on Mar 03, 2004 at 06:01 PM
bump
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Mar 04, 2004 at 12:08 PM
Ganda talaga ang yamaha for movies. Nabili ko tuloy yung yammy 440 na pinapabenta ng kaibigan ko ng wala sa oras.

Buti na lang nasa Pinas ang pamilya ko kaya walang kumontra. Hay naku, problema ko eh pagbalik nila ng April.
 


Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Mar 08, 2004 at 12:16 PM
d ko pa rin na check.  :-[
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: endless on Mar 08, 2004 at 02:25 PM
i ran the auto setup of the RXV-1400 and after setup a message of "out of phase" came out. i checked all the speaker connections but everything was connected properly.

i looked at the manual and it was stated there that the "out of phase" may come out whether or not the speakers are connected properly. why should the out of phase message come out if you had your speakers connected properly.

is my wiring really wrong? thanks.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wolf666 on Mar 09, 2004 at 02:46 PM
Wolf,
Censya na bro medyo bc. Anyway, I will check this weekend if indeed the straight and surround standard has the same settings on PEQ/EQ. From the link I've posted earlier, the straight mode make use of the YPAO/PEQ.  As for the 7channel stereo, the surround speaker  is weak maybe because its setup is set to small as they are not getting the heavier bass signal. To compensate, you may increase the level to +6db.  :)  

On the 7channel stereo, all my speakers are set to small. Hindi rin siguro sa level dahil I set all my speakers to same level (except center) using YPAO plus additional changes using RadioShack SPL meter together with Sound & Vision (Home Theatre Tune-up).

I'll try setting my speakers to large and see. Hassle kase kung everytime gagamitin yung 7channel stereo ay itataas ko yung level ng sorround speakers.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: skramm on Mar 09, 2004 at 05:18 PM
anybody here tried 2-channel yamaha receivers?  ty.  :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: endless on Mar 09, 2004 at 05:43 PM
i ran the auto setup of the RXV-1400 and after setup a message of "out of phase" came out. i checked all the speaker connections but everything was connected properly.

i looked at the manual and it was stated there that the "out of phase" may come out whether or not the speakers are connected properly. why should the out of phase message come out if you had your speakers connected properly.

is my wiring really wrong? thanks.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dexterc on Mar 09, 2004 at 08:50 PM
i ran the auto setup of the RXV-1400 and after setup a message of "out of phase" came out. i checked all the speaker connections but everything was connected properly.

i looked at the manual and it was stated there that the "out of phase" may come out whether or not the speakers are connected properly. why should the out of phase message come out if you had your speakers connected properly.

is my wiring really wrong? thanks.

Double check baka yung negative sa speaker mo eh napunta sa positive sa receiver..just a suggestion pero i am not sure kung tama ako
Title: repair center for YAMAHA-RXV800?
Post by: albaikph on Mar 10, 2004 at 09:13 AM
guys,

tulong naman po... san po ba may nag-rerepair ng YAMAHA RXV series? nasira po kasi yung  RXV800 ko..automatically shutting down , indicating "check the speakers wires", maski tinanggal ko na lahat ng speakers for isolation ???.  pero pag naka-set-up lang ako sa FM tuner ok lang di nag-sha-shutdown.

TY :-\
Title: Question on RX-V440 + Speaker
Post by: nesty on Mar 10, 2004 at 11:02 AM
Mga Boss,

Mayroon akong AIWA mini-component na amp nalang and receiver ang umaandar. I use it for my DVD player. since this is old na I plan to buy an RX-V440 receiver to replace it. Tight ako as budget and ang plan ko is to use the existing AIWA speaker L/R and it surround as a start. Ung impedance ng speaker is at 16 ohm at wattage niya is 70W.

Sa spec ng receiver na ito 95W@ 8ohm.

Pwede kaya yung speakers ko on the RX-V440?
O di kaya masira receiver ko. Tanong ko muna sa inyo bago ako bili.

Although nasa lower margin ako speaker versus yung 95W. Basta maingat ako sa volume di na siguro masira either speaker or receiver???

Pero ang pagkakalam ko may driving capability yung Yamaha to lower its power at higher impedance???

Title: Re:Question on RX-V440 + Speaker
Post by: arthurallanj on Mar 10, 2004 at 01:23 PM
Mga Boss,

Mayroon akong AIWA mini-component na amp nalang and receiver ang umaandar. I use it for my DVD player. since this is old na I plan to buy an RX-V440 receiver to replace it. Tight ako as budget and ang plan ko is to use the existing AIWA speaker L/R and it surround as a start. Ung impedance ng speaker is at 16 ohm at wattage niya is 70W.

Sa spec ng receiver na ito 95W@ 8ohm.

Pwede kaya yung speakers ko on the RX-V440?
O di kaya masira receiver ko. Tanong ko muna sa inyo bago ako bili.

Although nasa lower margin ako speaker versus yung 95W. Basta maingat ako sa volume di na siguro masira either speaker or receiver???

Pero ang pagkakalam ko may driving capability yung Yamaha to lower its power at higher impedance???


IMO, pwede yan bro, just set your speakers to small sa receiver mo, besides, ang RMS ng 440 is 75 watts lng naman e. And you're right, any speaker and amp, as long as you don't overdrive it, d naman masisira e. TC.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Mar 10, 2004 at 01:25 PM
Mga boss,
You guys have any idea kung meron na dito sa Pinas ng Yamaha DSP-AZ2? You know how much? Thanks.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: endless on Mar 10, 2004 at 03:26 PM
Double check baka yung negative sa speaker mo eh napunta sa positive sa receiver..just a suggestion pero i am not sure kung tama ako

i've double check the speaker connections at the back of the receiver already and i've also check the connection on each speaker and all the connections are correct naman.

what's confusing is why did yamaha specify that the "out of phase" error might occur EVEN if the speakers are connected properly? parang lumalabas na di matukoy ng system kung talagang out of phase o hindi and it will just confuse the consumers.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: johnlen on Mar 10, 2004 at 03:42 PM
i've double check the speaker connections at the back of the receiver already and i've also check the connection on each speaker and all the connections are correct naman.

what's confusing is why did yamaha specify that the "out of phase" error might occur EVEN if the speakers are connected properly? parang lumalabas na di matukoy ng system kung talagang out of phase o hindi and it will just confuse the consumers.

understand that the YPAO microphone captures the test tone and process it to auto calibrate the system, my suspicion is that your room accoustics is causing the out of phase result. but then again, i may be wrong.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Mar 10, 2004 at 03:53 PM
i've double check the speaker connections at the back of the receiver already and i've also check the connection on each speaker and all the connections are correct naman.

what's confusing is why did yamaha specify that the "out of phase" error might occur EVEN if the speakers are connected properly? parang lumalabas na di matukoy ng system kung talagang out of phase o hindi and it will just confuse the consumers.

Have you tried repeating the Auto Set-up? At first, ganito rin lumabas sa akin but after I re-run it again, ok na cya.  ;)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: endless on Mar 10, 2004 at 05:03 PM
Have you tried repeating the Auto Set-up? At first, ganito rin lumabas sa akin but after I re-run it again, ok na cya.  ;)

i haven't tried repeating the auto setup. that's sound like a good idea. i'll try doing it again. thanks.  :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dexterc on Mar 10, 2004 at 06:24 PM
i haven't tried repeating the auto setup. that's sound like a good idea. i'll try doing it again. thanks.  :)

Good luck bro
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Windrider on Mar 11, 2004 at 10:38 AM
Guys,

There are new models of Yamaha again from the RX-750 down to the RX-450. Grabe ang bilis ng magpalit ng model ng yamaha!!!! Rad it at www.audioholics.com!!!
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Narayan on Mar 11, 2004 at 01:38 PM
Guys,

There are new models of Yamaha again from the RX-750 down to the RX-450. Grabe ang bilis ng magpalit ng model ng yamaha!!!! Rad it at www.audioholics.com!!!


bro,

yan yung classic example ng " planned obsolescence"... kaya tuloy hindi maawat ang SARS ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bravoexo on Mar 11, 2004 at 02:41 PM
When do you think is the RX-V750 coming to local stores?  
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: nesty on Mar 11, 2004 at 08:17 PM
Boss Chief,

Thanks sa info mo. Postpone ko muna yung pagbili ko ng
RX-V440, this weekend sana. Nakita ko kasi yung feature ng 450 eh dalawang optical in at may optical out.  Tingin ko enhancment ito for para at least kung may planong magupgrade pwede.Plus may additional variation pa ng dsp 51 yata. TY
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Mar 12, 2004 at 05:58 PM
Mga boss,
You guys have any idea kung meron na dito sa Pinas ng Yamaha DSP-AZ2? You know how much? Thanks.

Yup. Its for sale at Listening in Style sa shangri-la EDSA. May display ngayon sa BPI madness at glorietta. I think its 72K plus....
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Mar 12, 2004 at 06:00 PM
Boss Chief,

Thanks sa info mo. Postpone ko muna yung pagbili ko ng
RX-V440, this weekend sana. Nakita ko kasi yung feature ng 450 eh dalawang optical in at may optical out.  Tingin ko enhancment ito for para at least kung may planong magupgrade pwede.Plus may additional variation pa ng dsp 51 yata. TY

Right decision...
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: nesty on Mar 12, 2004 at 06:32 PM
Right decision...

FYI lang. Tumawag ako sa Yamaha Singapore para itanong kung kailan irelease sa Asia yung RX-VX50 models sabi nung singaporean estimated end of May  daw???

Di ko nga lang alam kung marketing strategy lang yun kasi nga naman marami pang stocks ng RX-VX40s.

Ganun ba talaga kabilis mag change ng model ang Yamaha?? How about yung Denon?? TY

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wolf666 on Mar 12, 2004 at 08:14 PM
As for the 7channel stereo, the surround speaker  is weak maybe because its setup is set to small as they are not getting the heavier bass signal. To compensate, you may increase the level to +6db.  :)  

Sir e1kad2, tinanong mo rin pala ito sa homethetrespot.com. na try mo bang gawing large yung setting at naging pantay ang sound ng lahat? small setting kasi lahat ng speakers ko pero mahina talaga sound sa surround speakers ng 7channel stereo. properly calibrated naman lahat yung speakers ko.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Mar 13, 2004 at 10:02 AM
Yup. Its for sale at Listening in Style sa shangri-la EDSA. May display ngayon sa BPI madness at glorietta. I think its 72K plus....
Wow, ang mahal pala, I have a friend kasi who's going to Japan by the end of the month, the AZ2 costs 89,700 yen, so that's about 36,000 pesos lang. Wala siguro nyan sa Raon ano?, kasi ang laki ng price difference sa mga malls at sa Raon. She bought my Yamaha DSP-AX430 for 39,000 yen, that's about 16,000 pesos, which is more expensive than the one I saw here in the Phils., which went for about 14k lang back then. But anyway, thanks, bro e1kad2. Sana may makita ako nyan sa Raon. TC.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Mar 14, 2004 at 11:12 PM
Sir e1kad2, tinanong mo rin pala ito sa homethetrespot.com. na try mo bang gawing large yung setting at naging pantay ang sound ng lahat? small setting kasi lahat ng speakers ko pero mahina talaga sound sa surround speakers ng 7channel stereo. properly calibrated naman lahat yung speakers ko.

Yup. Cge bro., try ko i-set yung surrond ko to large this week and post ko results.   :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Mar 15, 2004 at 08:08 AM
mabilis nga magpalit ang yamaha, parang kelan lang RX-V496 ang inaasam ko,

buti na lang naghintay sa price drop ng 440,
medyo mahal ito nung introductory
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: endless on Mar 15, 2004 at 02:43 PM
Have you tried repeating the Auto Set-up? At first, ganito rin lumabas sa akin but after I re-run it again, ok na cya.  ;)

i've tried it again yesterday and still the same out of phase problem. it states that surround left is out of phase but i double checked it and the wiring is correct. i run the test again but still the same problem. i hope this is just a problem with room acoustic coz i'm afraid it might damage the receiver.
Title: Re:RX-V440 Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bOiNkEy on Mar 16, 2004 at 11:46 AM
 ;D

Sir, may question po ako...magkano po ngayon dyan sa Phils. ang RX-V440?
Title: Re:RX-V440 Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on Mar 16, 2004 at 11:53 AM
;D

Sir, may question po ako...magkano po ngayon dyan sa Phils. ang RX-V440?


Php 14k
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Mar 18, 2004 at 10:40 AM
Yup. Cge bro., try ko i-set yung surrond ko to large this week and post ko results.   :)

Hi Wolf,

I tried the large set-up dun sa surround ko and it did give out more emphasis on LFE signals. Lumakas sya but never naging pareho sa fronts kc naman malaki naman yung front speakers ko.  Try mo sayo if there will be an improvement. Mine did pero I returned it back to small.  ;)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: edboy7 on Mar 18, 2004 at 02:56 PM
hmmm....wat do u think of this? ;D
(http://www.yamaha.com/yec/images/rxz9_front.gif)
mammoth real panel...behold! :o
(http://www.yamaha.com/yec/images/rxz9back.gif)

WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT IT? :)
If this receiver doesn't have it, you don't need it! A huge array of features and connections make the Yamaha's RX-Z9 the world's most versatile and enjoyable receiver.
FEATURES
9.1 channel, 1,290W powerful surround sound (170W x 7 + 50W x 2)
Digital ToP-ART (Total Purity Audio Reproduction Technology)
Pure Direct mode for high quality 2-channel sound reproduction
i.LINK digital audio interface
Heavy-duty, rigid chassis symmetric construction with separate chambers and finest parts used throughout
High-Definition CINEMA DSP by powerful 32-bit Yamaha LSIs (YSS-930 x 4)
Compatibility with the latest movie sound formats including dolby digital EX, Dolby Pro Logic II,DTS-ES Discrete 6.1, DTS Neo:6 and DTS 96/24
   THX Ultra 2 processing
51 surround sound programs (71 variations) with SILENT CINEMA and Night Listening Mode
192kHz/24-bit D/A converter for all channels
Digital Component video up conversion
Progressive Scan Output, Noise Shaped Video, DCDi, TrueLife Enhancer
YPAO (Yamaha Parametric Room Acoustic Optimizer)
On-Screen Display with GUI (Graphic User Interface)
Custom installation capability with RS-232C and remote control IR code  

la lang...post ko lang po ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Mar 18, 2004 at 06:59 PM
hmmm....wat do u think of this? ;D
(http://www.yamaha.com/yec/images/rxz9_front.gif)
mammoth real panel...behold! :o
(http://www.yamaha.com/yec/images/rxz9back.gif)

WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT IT? :)
If this receiver doesn't have it, you don't need it! A huge array of features and connections make the Yamaha's RX-Z9 the world's most versatile and enjoyable receiver.
FEATURES
9.1 channel, 1,290W powerful surround sound (170W x 7 + 50W x 2)
Digital ToP-ART (Total Purity Audio Reproduction Technology)
Pure Direct mode for high quality 2-channel sound reproduction
i.LINK digital audio interface
Heavy-duty, rigid chassis symmetric construction with separate chambers and finest parts used throughout
High-Definition CINEMA DSP by powerful 32-bit Yamaha LSIs (YSS-930 x 4)
Compatibility with the latest movie sound formats including dolby digital EX, Dolby Pro Logic II,DTS-ES Discrete 6.1, DTS Neo:6 and DTS 96/24
   THX Ultra 2 processing
51 surround sound programs (71 variations) with SILENT CINEMA and Night Listening Mode
192kHz/24-bit D/A converter for all channels
Digital Component video up conversion
Progressive Scan Output, Noise Shaped Video, DCDi, TrueLife Enhancer
YPAO (Yamaha Parametric Room Acoustic Optimizer)
On-Screen Display with GUI (Graphic User Interface)
Custom installation capability with RS-232C and remote control IR code  

la lang...post ko lang po ;D


Awesome.... :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Mar 19, 2004 at 11:13 AM
Yeahh. The stuff that dreams are made of. Kaya nga dreams lang for most of us kasi bangungot ang presyo. Ang dream ko na nga lang ngayon e AZ2 na lang. IMO, second runner-up lang to sa RX-Z9(DSP-Z9 in other countries). Bale, first runner up para sa akin ang DSP-AZ1. Bababa nga ang presyo eventually, may lalabas na naman na bago, kaya dapat, set ka na ng limits. Haaay, buhay ng mga mahihilig sa HT.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wolf666 on Mar 19, 2004 at 03:04 PM
Hi Wolf,

I tried the large set-up dun sa surround ko and it did give out more emphasis on LFE signals. Lumakas sya but never naging pareho sa fronts kc naman malaki naman yung front speakers ko.  Try mo sayo if there will be an improvement. Mine did pero I returned it back to small.  ;)


I am comparing kasi against my previous Marantz SR7300. When I use 'Multi Channel Stereo' doon, the sound will come out the same level in all speakers. When I say the same level, I am referring to volume with reference to all other spekers. My fronts also will sound better kahit anong receiver gamitin ko but my concern is their volume level. In Yammy 1400, kapag 7channel stereo gamit ko, mahina talaga ang volume ng surround speakers as against the main. Mayroong setting ang 7channel stereo to bring up/down (0-100%) the centre/surr left/surr right/surr back/presence level. My surr left and surr right are already 100% (default).

Interesado ako sa 7 channel stereo kasi ito usually gamit ko kapag meroon akong mga bisita (or party) sa bahay and I can place my speakers anywhere in the house. Anyway, parang hindi well balance ang implementation ng Yamaha sa 7 Channel Stereo as against Marantz Multi-Channel Stereo.

I will try the large setting this weekend and let you know.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wolf666 on Mar 20, 2004 at 10:15 AM
have tried the large setting but the problem is still there. my speakers are actually all set to small. tried setting the surround to large and rest to small, then tried all large. I get the same sound level from my surround speakers.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Mar 20, 2004 at 11:59 AM
Awesome.... :)

It is.  Such a complex behemoth.  It only takes one teeny weeny problem, and the entire brute, lock, stock and barrel, goes to the service center.   ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Mar 20, 2004 at 12:02 PM
have tried the large setting but the problem is still there. my speakers are actually all set to small. tried setting the surround to large and rest to small, then tried all large. I get the same sound level from my surround speakers.

Could be that yamaha does not implement identical amp config and gain in all 7 amps.  Or it could be their design philosophy to downplay the back channels when playing multi-channel stereo.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: john5479 on Mar 20, 2004 at 12:54 PM
It is.  Such a complex behemoth.  It only takes one teeny weeny problem, and the entire brute, lock, stock and barrel, goes to the service center.   ;D

of course that is the compromise with an integrated like the z9 i mean a video processor, surround sound processor, 9 amps, one thing goes wrong and you have to haul it to your service center...still it really looks awesome 8)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wolf666 on Mar 20, 2004 at 09:48 PM
Could be that yamaha does not implement identical amp config and gain in all 7 amps.  Or it could be their design philosophy to downplay the back channels when playing multi-channel stereo.

I am beginning to think the same way. But if this is true, it beats the real pupose of multi-channel stereo. Just wanted to verify that this is how Yamaha is really implementing this or that my unit has something wrong.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Mar 21, 2004 at 01:16 AM
I am beginning to think the same way. But if this is true, it beats the real pupose of multi-channel stereo. Just wanted to verify that this is how Yamaha is really implementing this or that my unit has something wrong.

Bro,
Sa akin may changes when I set it up to Large. Try mo using your front speakers as a surround. Pag ganun pa rin, pa check mo na and let me know.  
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Mar 21, 2004 at 10:10 AM
I am beginning to think the same way. But if this is true, it beats the real pupose of multi-channel stereo. Just wanted to verify that this is how Yamaha is really implementing this or that my unit has something wrong.
Bro wolf,
I have a DSP-AX430, malakas naman ang surround channels pag naka-5 channel stereo. Try mo  kaya ibang DSP modes nya, if at any other mode, ganun pa rin kahina ang surround volumes, may problema na siguro ang amp mo. Kung merong mahina at malakas sa iba't ibang modes, baka ganun lang talaga ang processing nya, but I doubt that. Well, ang yamaha kasi is really great for movies e, but medyo lacking nga sya when it comes to music. :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: johndoe on Mar 21, 2004 at 11:21 AM
yamaha recievers would be on sale again this summer,by april cguro 8)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wolf666 on Mar 21, 2004 at 10:06 PM
Bro wolf,
I have a DSP-AX430, malakas naman ang surround channels pag naka-5 channel stereo. Try mo  kaya ibang DSP modes nya, if at any other mode, ganun pa rin kahina ang surround volumes, may problema na siguro ang amp mo. Kung merong mahina at malakas sa iba't ibang modes, baka ganun lang talaga ang processing nya, but I doubt that. Well, ang yamaha kasi is really great for movies e, but medyo lacking nga sya when it comes to music. :)

Walang problem using other DSP modes. I usually listen to PL2 (music) and I don't find the surround's mahina. Sa 7channel stereo lang talaga.

Pareng JT,
Nakabili ka ba ng Yamaha 440. Pwede bang pasyal ako sa inyo at i-try ko ang 6channel stereo ng yamaha mo.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Mar 21, 2004 at 11:57 PM
Pareng JT,
Nakabili ka ba ng Yamaha 440. Pwede bang pasyal ako sa inyo at i-try ko ang 6channel stereo ng yamaha mo.

No prob, SMS mo lang ako kung pupunta ka.

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bravoexo on Mar 26, 2004 at 12:16 PM
Yamaha's new line RX-Vx50 series english site is now up!

Here's a link to the RX-V750...  


http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/RECEIVER/RX-V750.htm (http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/RECEIVER/RX-V750.htm)



RX-V750 Features

192 kHz/24-Bit DAC for all Channels
Selectable 9-Band Subwoofer Crossover
Subwoofer Phase Select
Analog Mixdown
Dialogue Lift
Straight/Effect Switch
2-Channel Mode
High Dynamic Power
Linear Damping
Wide-Range Audio Frequency Response for
DVD-Audio/SA-CD Compatibility
Phono Out
Custom Installation (Zone 2) Compatibility and Speaker B
9-Channel Speaker Outputs
Center Graphic Equalizer
Virtual CINEMA DSP
Learning Capable and Preset Remote Control Unit with LCD Display
40-Station Preset Tuning
Auto Preset Tuning

High Sound Quality
7.1-Channel,700W Powerful Surround Sound (100W x 7)
Digital ToP-ART and High Current Amplification
Pure Direct Mode for High Quality 2-Channel Sound Reproduction
Accurate Touch Volume Control Governs All Channels
Selectable Subwoofer Crossover / Phase Select
192kHz/24-Bit DAC for All Channels

Surround Realism
Quad-Field CINEMA DSP
Compatible with All the Latest Movie Sound Formats including Dolby Pro Logic IIx
Audio Delay for adjusting Lip Sinc (0-160 ms)
29 Surround Programs (51 Variations)
Night Listening Enhancer (Cinema/Music) and SILENT CINEMA

Easy to Use
YPAO for Automatically Optimizing the Sound in Your Room
On-Screen Display
Custom Installation (Zone 2) and Speaker B
9-Channel Speaker Outputs: Automatic Zone 2 or Presence Speaker Selection
Learning Capable remote Control Unit

High Picture Quality
Component Video Up Conversion
HDTV (720p/1080i) Compatibility
Wide-Range Video Bandwidth (60MHz -3 dB)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wanderlust on Mar 26, 2004 at 03:20 PM
matanong ko lang mga dre, am using kasi an old yamaha avr, rvx 496, and as the usual comment kakabitin sa music playing.... am thinking of attaching a pre-amp to it, using the external decoders. in your experience what are the most compatible pre-amps d2 (yng d masyadong high priced ha)? would doing so greatly improve the audio?

or should i just build an entirely different audio system? (hmmm.... magastos ata yon ah).
 
salamat sa tulong....
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Mar 26, 2004 at 06:16 PM
What's the external decoder connection?  Is it RCA or DB-5
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Mar 27, 2004 at 09:24 AM
ouch!

ganda ng RX-V450, may Pro-Logic IIx, HDTV compatible pa.
another award winning in the making from yamaha

(http://www.yamaha.com/yec/images/rxv450.jpg)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Mar 27, 2004 at 10:23 AM
Ayaaan! Tuloy, instead na decided na ako sa Pioneer VSX-D812, nagdadalawang-isip na ako ngayon. Kasi kayong mga taga-PinoyDVD e, kayo ang salot!!!!.....Teka, taga-PinoyDVD rin nga pala ako no? He he he. Parepareho lang pala tayo. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: indridcold on Mar 28, 2004 at 04:26 PM
Ang bilis mag upgrade ng yamaha. :D Hay.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Mar 28, 2004 at 04:59 PM
ouch!

ganda ng RX-V450, may Pro-Logic IIx, HDTV compatible pa.
another award winning in the making from yamaha

(http://www.yamaha.com/yec/images/rxv450.jpg)

buti nalang nagbabasa ako dito :)
am holding my horses before this baby arrives..

kelan ba mga brothers? :)
thanks
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bravoexo on Mar 28, 2004 at 05:39 PM
Once the Yamaha fire sales are over, I guess.  
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wanderlust on Mar 29, 2004 at 10:34 AM
What's the external decoder connection?  Is it RCA or DB-5

RCA lang sir......
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Mar 29, 2004 at 12:31 PM
For me, the new Top-art designs of Yamaha receivers are head and shoulders above their previous designs in the looks department.  The sonics could albe be an improvement.   I am currently eyeing their S830 DVD player with DVD-Audio capabilitiy.  
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Mar 29, 2004 at 06:45 PM
Walang problem using other DSP modes. I usually listen to PL2 (music) and I don't find the surround's mahina. Sa 7channel stereo lang talaga.

Pareng JT,
Nakabili ka ba ng Yamaha 440. Pwede bang pasyal ako sa inyo at i-try ko ang 6channel stereo ng yamaha mo.

Bro, Any luck on your testing?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Mar 30, 2004 at 03:32 PM
(http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/newsflash/images/yamaha-rx-v750-receiver.jpg)

BUENA PARK, CA -- Yamaha Electronics, an industry leader in home theater products, has introduced four new digital home theater receivers that enhance the overall home theater experience at a variety of reasonable price points, beginning as low as $299 MRSP. The RX-V750 and RX-V650 include an essential new feature called YPAO (Yamaha Parametric Room Acoustic Optimizer), which was previously available only in higher-end receivers and is a technology that completely simplifies the home theater set-up process. YPAO automatically analyzes room acoustics, then sets parameters for optimum sound quality at the listening position at the touch of a button.

The 7.1 channel RX-V750 and RX-V650 and the 6.1 channel RX-V540 and RX-V440 receivers all feature Cinema DSP, Dolby Pro Logic IIx, Dolby Digital-EX, DTS-ES Discrete 6, DTS-ES Matrix 6.1 and DTS neo:6. All models have high-current discrete amplification for the highest quality sound reproduction, plus a new, easy-to-use setup menu with 5-band center channel EQ, speaker distance adjustment and night listening modes.

The RX-V750, with a suggested retail price of $599, is a highly sophisticated 7.1 channel A/V receiver that features Dolby Pro Logic IIx, Dolby Digital-EX, DTS-ES Discrete 6.1, DTS-ES Matrix 6.1, DTS neo:6, Digital ToP-ART, an on-screen display and a preset remote control with an LCD display.

Dolby Pro Logic IIx is the first and only technology to process any native stereo or 5.1 signal into a 6.1- or 7.1-channel output, creating a seamless, natural surround soundfield that immerses you in the entertainment experience. With Dolby Pro Logic IIx, users can choose Movie or Music modes to tailor their listening experience to source material, including an exclusive Game mode that delivers full-impact special effects signals panned to the surrounds.

With its enhanced directional steering, DTS-ES Discrete 6.1 and DTS-ES Matrix 6.1 offer six fully independent channels of sound with an extra rear center speaker that has its own separate effects, providing unparalleled quality sound from a receiver in this category.

In addition, DTS Neo 6 provides 5.1-channel surround processing from any stereo source--even from two-channel CDs, tapes, VHS and LPs----and delivers full-bandwidth stereo surround channels.

Yamaha's Digital ToP-ART technology maximizes digital quality while minimizing analog circuitry by bringing together several key elements to create the best-sounding, user friendly A/V components available. These elements include high-current discrete amplification, Linear Dampening Factor for the left and right channels, and low-impedance drive with discrete circuitry to all channels. Also offered are Zone 2 audio out capabilities with an I/R port, extended I/R codes and pre-outs for all channels. Zone 2 has the ability to drive a set of stereo speakers in
another room using an external power amplifier.

Rated at 100W x 7 high discrete power (20Hz-20 kHz), the receiver is able to deliver sophisticated DSP processing enabled by the YSS-948, a 32-bit Floating-Point LSI that yields 29 DSP programs with 53 possible variations.

Cinema DSP provides an audio experience that sounds better than most theaters. Cinema DSP is designed to bring out the full potential of movie sound formats, reproducing them the way directors and sound engineers intended for them to be heard. And, for listening to late-night multi-channel presentations in privacy, it uses Silent Cinema, which provides a 5.1 channel listening experience using a pair of ordinary two-channel headphones.

Other features include eight-channel analog inputs for external decoders to accommodate high-resolution audio formats like DVD-Audio, SACD (or other future formats); four optical and two coaxial input terminals; one optical output terminal; front-panel A/V inputs with a digital input; two component video inputs and one out put for HDTV 720p/1080i compatibility; five total video inputs and two outputs; S-video connections for all inputs and outputs; and a phono input. The receiver does component video-up conversion from composite to S-video, to provide high-quality
picture from all video components connected to the receiver for optimal viewing. In addition, the 96 kHz/24-bit digital-to-analog converters are used for all six channels.

Next in the series is the RX-V650 discrete 95W x 7 A/V receiver (20Hz-20kHz), which replaces the RX-V640 and is priced at $499. This new model has all of the features of the RX-V750 except for the LCD remote control, phono input connection and an aluminum front panel.

The RX-V550, priced at $399, replaces the RX-V540 and is a 6.1-channel home theater receiver that is rated at discrete 90 watts x 6 channels (20Hz-20kHz). This receiver also features the YSS-948 32-bit Floating-Point LSI, yielding 29 DSP programs with 51 possible variations, Dolby Pro Logic IIx, Dolby Digital-EX, DTS-ES Discrete 6.1, DTS-ES Matrix 6.1, DTS neo:6, Digital ToP-ART and Cinema DSP processing.

Other important features include video-up conversion from composite to S-video at a low price point; two component video inputs and one out put for HDTV 720p/1080i compatibility; four total video inputs and one outputs S-video connections for all inputs and outputs; six-channel external decoders to accommodate future formats; three optical and one coaxial input terminal, one optical output terminal; a front panel A/V input; A/B speaker switching; and a preset remote control.

The most affordable receiver in the new series is the RX-V450, which replaces the RX-V440 and is priced at $299. This unit has all of the features of the RX-V550, but only has two optical and one coaxial digital input terminal, one optical digital output terminal, and is without video conversion and S-video connections.

www.yamaha.com

www.hometheaterhifi.com

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Mar 31, 2004 at 12:34 PM
(http://www.yamaha.com/images/rxv730.gif)

AMONG ITS FEATURES :

POWERFUL HOME THEATER RECEIVERThe RX-V730 is a powerful and versatile 6-channel receiver, delivering 75 watts to each channel, Yamaha's Digital ToP-ART Technology assures the purest circuits and transmission.

POWERFUL SOUND PROCESSINGYamaha's powerful decoding circuitry incorporated into the RX-V730 performs Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital EX, Dolby ProLogic II, DTS, and DTS "ES-Compatible" decoding with extreme accuracy. Yamaha's Quad-Field CINEMA DSP adds an additional rear center soundfield, allowing enjoyment of 6.1 channel movie sound formats. The RX-V730 provides 21 surround programs and offers a total of 41 surround environment variations.

HIGH PERFORMANCE LSIS AND OTHER CIRCUITRYYamaha's proprietary ASIC LSI, the 32-bit YSS-938, assures top quality audio performance.

VERSATILE VIDEO INPUTS AND OUTPUTSEager to take on challenging home theater situations, the RX-V730 has 5 video inputs and 2 video outputs. All have S-video connections in addition to standard RCA jacks. Two component video inputs assure the best possible video signal transmission. Front panel A/V inputs make temporary connections easy.

AUDIO INPUTS AND OUTPUTS FOR EVERY NEEDThe RX-V730 has two audio-only inputs nad one audio-only output. Including the audio portion of A/V source inputs, the receiver provides 4 optical and 1 coaxial digital. In addition, the RX-V730 provides a digital audio output.

*ON-SCREEN DISPLAYControl and adjustment are always easy to check via the receiver's clear on-screen display messages.








what can you say about this receiver?
it's now selling at P18,800 only...50% off it's original price...

thinking about getting this or the new 440 model

what do you guys suggest..thanks
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Mar 31, 2004 at 05:57 PM
With its improved electronics, better aesthetic designs and affordable price, I think yamaha is fast becoming the leader in the HT markets.  It's amp circuitry is also adopting the high-current qualities of many american and european brands.  Personally, if i had to buy an HT receiver, I'd have difficulty choosing between a Yamaha and an HK at the sub-50T range.  At around 100T and above range , i think Yamaha has the edge over any HT receiver brand with its DSP-Z series in terms of features.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: iceman90a on Mar 31, 2004 at 09:42 PM
what can you say about this receiver?
it's now selling at P18,800 only...50% off it's original price...

thinking about getting this or the new 440 model

what do you guys suggest..thanks

i'd still say....  ;D ;D

but seriously between this and the 440. i would go for this (kung yun lang talagang 2 ang choices)  ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Mar 31, 2004 at 09:48 PM
i'd still say....  ;D ;D

but seriously between this and the 440. i would go for this (kung yun lang talagang 2 ang choices)  ;D

alam mo lucy :) gusto ko sana yan..kaso..kaso  8)
pwede SIP 12 months to pay?  ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: iceman90a on Mar 31, 2004 at 10:03 PM
pwede:

P 26,989 down, P 1/month for the next 11 mos  ;D ;D ;D

OT  - sorry mods
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: evergliden on Mar 31, 2004 at 11:14 PM
last week kakabili lang namin ng rx-v2400, from rx-v1300 ang laki ng improvement nya of course 7.1 sya then thx select di ko pa gaano na tweak. i check out the YPAO feature nya galing nag adjust by itself ang receiver so far yun pa lang ang na test ko.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bravoexo on Mar 31, 2004 at 11:45 PM
Which store/shop would you think will probably carry the newest line first?  (RX-Vx50 series)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bravoexo on Apr 01, 2004 at 12:49 AM
Question:  When it says up converts video up to component, does this mean it scales the signal upto 1080i?  Coz this is the only reason I'm waiting for the rx-v750 and not getting an AVR330 right now...
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wolf666 on Apr 01, 2004 at 04:49 PM
Question:  When it says up converts video up to component, does this mean it scales the signal upto 1080i?  Coz this is the only reason I'm waiting for the rx-v750 and not getting an AVR330 right now...
ang alam ko ay kahit RXV2400 cannot do for 1080i.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wolf666 on Apr 01, 2004 at 04:54 PM
JT,

papalitan mo na ba 440 mo? try mo na yung 650 para mayroon ka na ring YPAO....

kamusta na setup mo ngayon after nating i-adjust  individual speaker level and distance?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wolf666 on Apr 01, 2004 at 04:56 PM
last week kakabili lang namin ng rx-v2400, from rx-v1300 ang laki ng improvement nya of course 7.1 sya then thx select di ko pa gaano na tweak. i check out the YPAO feature nya galing nag adjust by itself ang receiver so far yun pa lang ang na test ko.
congrats sa new receiver mo. i am sure you will enjoy it more after sometime (burn-in). mine is the rxv1400 and at this price point, i am very much satisfied.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Apr 01, 2004 at 05:00 PM
JT,
papalitan mo na ba 440 mo? try mo na yung 650 para mayroon ka na ring YPAO....

kamusta na setup mo ngayon after nating i-adjust  indivual speaker level?

Solve na ako sa 440.  TY nga pala sa pag calibrate mo. Langya, lalo akong puyat ngayon dahil pinapanood ko ulit yung mga paborito kong pelikula  para marinig yung kaibahan.

Nga pala, oks ba sa setup mo yung mga cd ko?

Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wolf666 on Apr 01, 2004 at 05:19 PM
Solve na ako sa 440.  TY nga pala sa pag calibrate mo. Langya, lalo akong puyat ngayon dahil pinapanood ko ulit yung mga paborito kong pelikula  para marinig yung kaibahan.

Nga pala, oks ba sa setup mo yung mga cd ko?

Ayos yung 'Best Audiphile Voices II'. Yun palang ang napapakinggan ko. Medyo busy dahil nandito na uli family ko.

on your setup, pwede mong i-increase ng 1dB to 2bB yung centre speaker mo kung feeling mo mahina sya. some of our fellow HT enthusiasts here in singapore does the same. On my setup, i personally prefer centre  channel to be 1dB higher than the rest. But this is just my personal preference.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Apr 01, 2004 at 05:25 PM
on your setup, pwede mong i-increase ng 1dB to 2bB yung centre speaker mo kung feeling mo mahina sya. some of our fellow HT enthusiasts here in singapore does the same. On my setup, i personally prefer centre  channel to be 1dB higher than the rest. But this is just my personal preference.

Actually, nalalakasan ako sa center output ng yamaha compared dun sa Marantz kaya di ko na in-adjust. Solve na ako sa current settings nya.
 



Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dunforgiven on Apr 01, 2004 at 05:30 PM
yamaha recievers would be on sale again this summer,by april cguro 8)

awright! just in time for my planned purchase of a 440!
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Apr 01, 2004 at 05:52 PM
do you know when the sale would be? :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wavsubz on Apr 01, 2004 at 07:01 PM
guys! Available na ba yung RxV450 sa Ambassador in Greenbelt? Saan kaya available nun dito? Sana may available na tapos 0% interest using Citibank card he he he
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bravoexo on Apr 01, 2004 at 08:27 PM
According to the AVSForums, the RX-Vx50's are already available in Fry's ...  I wonder how long before it reaches our shores.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: evergliden on Apr 01, 2004 at 11:03 PM
thanks wolf666,  which do you prefer manual set-up or the auto set-up? medyo tamad pa ako mag tweak kaya auto muna adjustments ko.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: batutoy3:16 on Apr 02, 2004 at 08:14 AM
bros, baka may alam kayong mas mura na Yamaha RX-V640 receiver, canvass ko kasi sa mega P22500 ang pinakamababa. For tower speakers NS-555(P20475), center NS-C444(P8775) and NS-333 bookshelf(P6200).

we're thinking of pairing this w/ DTX 12" subs(P7125) and US Audio(P1400) for center rear  - okay lang b yung gantung set-up? baka kasi may alam kayung mas cheaper na ganitung set :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wolf666 on Apr 02, 2004 at 03:53 PM
thanks wolf666,  which do you prefer manual set-up or the auto set-up? medyo tamad pa ako mag tweak kaya auto muna adjustments ko.

Definitely Auto setup. Parametric Equalizer does not work if you use Manual Setup. Since there are 4 options (not too sure of exact number) to choose when setting Parametric Equalizer, you may have to run all these to see which one you prefer. I personally find the FLAT and FRONT settings the best for my setup.

Sa Speaker distance, I used AUTO kasi mas accurate sya kaysa Manual. Pero I had to Manually adjust my Sub distance kase medyo pumalpak sya dito.

Sa Speaker level, I also run AUTO. The levels set are almost correct but I still need to manually adjust some of them (especially sub) using my Radio Shack Meter.  Pero AUTO is much accurate kaysa kung manually setup mo using your ears lang.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: audi0slave on Apr 03, 2004 at 11:45 PM
do you know when the sale would be? :)

aron,

yamaholics ka na rin ba? i'm sure you'll be getting one in the near future... don't think of any other brand if what you're looking for is to be devoted entirely to HT duties... nothing comes close to yamaha AVRs if the models are compared in their price brackets....

 :-*
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: enygma on Apr 04, 2004 at 09:17 AM
iba talaga ang yamaha pagdating sa ht. talagang gumagapang iyung sounds niya. i'm a previous yamaha owner. iyun nga lang pinaka-low end end siya but i'm very satisfy kapag nanonood ako ng dvd using it. but when it comes to audio, talagang may kulang siya. don't know kung sa mga high end models ng yamaha ok iyung audio niya.... ???
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Apr 04, 2004 at 10:37 AM
agree.
on audio, hindi kulang pero sobra...sobra sa brightness he..he

pero hindi ka naman ipapahiya.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: enygma on Apr 04, 2004 at 11:00 AM
agree.
on audio, hindi kulang pero sobra...sobra sa brightness he..he

pero hindi ka naman ipapahiya.

if only they could adjust the brightness of their receivers, i'm sure maraming magbabalikan ulit sa yamaha...sabagay ang market talaga ng yamaha receivers are those for ht fanatics....any model of yamaha now  that is somewhat good in audio?  ???
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Windrider on Apr 04, 2004 at 11:03 AM
Was in D-cinema in style yesterday in Filinvest Alabang. They said that their 440 is going for 14,500.00. Is this a good enough price? or meron pang mas mura dito?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Apr 04, 2004 at 11:11 AM
mr audioslave,

OO na! magaling kang salesman eh  8)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: enygma on Apr 04, 2004 at 11:17 AM
Was in D-cinema in style yesterday in Filinvest Alabang. They said that their 440 is going for 14,500.00. Is this a good enough price? or meron pang mas mura dito?

i guess iyan na iyung pinakamura na makikita mo although i'm not updated sa mga pricings ng yamaha receivers ngayon. when i bought my RXV-496 2yrs ago, nasa 16500pesos siya. that's a good buy already since it's a yamaha... :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: YrNeH on Apr 04, 2004 at 06:37 PM
yo yamaha users, tanong lang kung may idea kayo kung magkano yung rx-v1400 at rx-v2400?  salamat :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Apr 05, 2004 at 12:04 AM
RXV-1400 nasa 36K. Yung 2400 naman I think nasa 42K.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Bogsle on Apr 05, 2004 at 12:40 AM
aron,

yamaholics ka na rin ba? i'm sure you'll be getting one in the near future... don't think of any other brand if what you're looking for is to be devoted entirely to HT duties... nothing comes close to yamaha AVRs if the models are compared in their price brackets....

 :-*

Mr. AudioSlave,

Seems you are enjoying your RXV440?

How is it?
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: YrNeH on Apr 05, 2004 at 04:34 AM
RXV-1400 nasa 36K. Yung 2400 naman I think nasa 42K.
ang mura naman dyan, thanks :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 12, 2004 at 09:54 AM

ang mura naman dyan, thanks :)


I auditioned the RXV1400 and RXV2400, and wow, these babies really rocks....
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: enygma on Apr 12, 2004 at 10:18 AM



I auditioned the RXV1400 and RXV2400, and wow, these babies really rocks....

pre, planning to upgrade your receiver again?????  ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 12, 2004 at 01:19 PM


pre, planning to upgrade your receiver again?????  ;D

Ahahahaa nde, napadaan lang ako sa D-Cinema, so nag Audition na din ako lol, just wanna know the sound of the 1400 at 2400. Una kuntento na akjo sa HK, pangalawa wala akong budget lol. Pero pag yumaman ako, i wanna buy the 2400 for my room ;D ehehehe, malabo atang mangyari yun( Yung yumaman lol) ;D
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: enygma on Apr 12, 2004 at 05:00 PM


Ahahahaa nde, napadaan lang ako sa D-Cinema, so nag Audition na din ako lol, just wanna know the sound of the 1400 at 2400. Una kuntento na akjo sa HK, pangalawa wala akong budget lol. Pero pag yumaman ako, i wanna buy the 2400 for my room ;D ehehehe, malabo atang mangyari yun( Yung yumaman lol) ;D

D-Cinema? lagi akong napapadaan diyan dati coz malapit lang iyung place of work ko diyan. that's where i bought my b&w601s2... :)
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 12, 2004 at 11:22 PM


D-Cinema? lagi akong napapadaan diyan dati coz malapit lang iyung place of work ko diyan. that's where i bought my b&w601s2... :)

Yeahhhh, dito ko din binili yung Una kong AVR na yammy ehehehehe
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: DoubleTapz on Apr 13, 2004 at 09:38 PM
Hello peeps,

would any one help me.

I hear a little static from my left front speaker.
I think its caused by my receiver.
because i inter changed my front speakers and when i tested it the static was still on the left.

can this be fixed? if so can anyone suggest a place or person to contact to fix it.

BTW my set up is
yammy 620
Mission 71 (Fronts)
Mission M7c2 (Center)
Mission M70 (surrounds)
all my speakers are set to small
US Audio 512 (Sub)

Thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: veige13 on Apr 26, 2004 at 01:51 PM
Hi guys,
Just known this site last Friday (4/22)when I was checking for topics regarding Dai-ichi speakers.Wish I have known this site early para di na ako mag-start magbasa ng mga topics from the very 1st page ;D!!!Kakaregister ko nga lang eto post na kaagad,anyways the reason I post is I just brought a Yamaha RX-V595(2nd hand lang wala budget) from my boss at 7k, do you think ok lang ang price? And any suggestion of speakers for the HT set-up?

Thanks a lot!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Apr 26, 2004 at 01:55 PM
Hi guys,
Just known this site last Friday (4/22)when I was checking for topics regarding Dai-ichi speakers.Wish I have known this site early para di na ako mag-start magbasa ng mga topics from the very 1st page ;D!!!Kakaregister ko nga lang eto post na kaagad,anyways the reason I post is I just brought a Yamaha RX-V595(2nd hand lang wala budget) from my boss at 7k, do you think ok lang ang price? And any suggestion of speakers for the HT set-up?

Thanks a lot!!!!!!!!

Welcome!
I think that's a good amp already, and since you did mention na walang budget, I think you're on the right track when you looked at Daiichi speakers, great performance at an affordable price. Here's their site if di mo pa alam: www.daiichi.ph
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Apr 26, 2004 at 02:23 PM
Hello peeps,

would any one help me.

I hear a little static from my left front speaker.
I think its caused by my receiver.
because i inter changed my front speakers and when i tested it the static was still on the left.

can this be fixed? if so can anyone suggest a place or person to contact to fix it.

BTW my set up is
yammy 620
Mission 71 (Fronts)
Mission M7c2 (Center)
Mission M70 (surrounds)
all my speakers are set to small
US Audio 512 (Sub)

Thanks.

Do some process of elimination.  First, trace and tighten the RCA interconnects going to your reciever's left channel.  Is the noise the same between different sources?  Interchange L and R RCA connectors to your players.  Lastly, without any source connected, radio tuner deselected, a loud or full volume should yield a totally dead or silent speaker.  IF not, your receiver is at fault. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Archie on Apr 26, 2004 at 10:12 PM
planning to buy a yammy rxv450. are they in the local market already?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bravoexo on Apr 26, 2004 at 11:08 PM
Yamaha's current summer sale ends April 30.  So it's good to assume the x50's line will arrive shortly after that.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: veige13 on Apr 27, 2004 at 08:45 AM
Arthurallanj,

Tol thanks!!Now I have to figure out what model of Dai-ichi speakers I am going to buy....I'll try to audition on one of their showrooms one of this days at mag iipon para pambili. Iba na kase pag me pamilya ;) di pwedeng bilhin kaagad yung gusto mo.......Post na lang uli ako pag me set-up na ako at me tanong po sa mga sound gurus natin...Salamat.

Sa lahat ng makakabasa regards na lang.....
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Apr 27, 2004 at 11:18 AM
Bro veige 13,
You're welcome. Pareho tayong may pamilya na din. Although, my wife is very supportive kasi wala na naman daw akong ibang bisyo, electronics lang. Mas mabuti na lang daw yun kesa sa sigarilyo, inom, at kung ano pa, (no offense meant for anyone) hehehe ;D. Let me make a suggestion, siguro sa Daiichi speakers, the most decent sounding yet least expensive is the DTX 9.5 slim series. Try getting an audition with these speakers. And let the whole family listen to it para mas masaya. Ingat, tol.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on May 06, 2004 at 11:24 AM
Bros, (esp. AV_Phile and Philander)
Can you tell me your own views about the Yamaha DSP-AZ2?  Anlaki kasi ng tiwala ko sa inyo e. Thanks. ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: antukin on May 11, 2004 at 04:44 PM
uhmmm... can someone tell me what's the Dynamic Range settings for in the yamy440? what is suitable for a 2.5mx3.5m room.

salamats.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on May 12, 2004 at 07:23 PM
Bros, (esp. AV_Phile and Philander)
Can you tell me your own views about the Yamaha DSP-AZ2?  Anlaki kasi ng tiwala ko sa inyo e. Thanks. ;)

Thanks arthurallanj.  I'll try to live up to your expectation  ;D

The Z2 is an excellent performer as I am sure you must have read from reviews on the net.  The Z9 is even more awesome.  The SRP equally so.   Their product brochures and technical specs are likewise impressive.  As far as input and output flexibilities for the preamp section is concered, they have little competition from other receivers in their class.  Their digital processing features are simply without equal.  For the same price, I may get a Rotel or Krell multi-channel preamp, but the featurers will almost fail in comparison, sonic quality besides.  I really would love to have any of the Z-class receivers as a preamp. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on May 12, 2004 at 07:29 PM
uhmmm... can someone tell me what's the Dynamic Range settings for in the yamy440? what is suitable for a 2.5mx3.5m room.

salamats.

Doesn't the tech spec indicate the dynamic headroom of your yammy 440? 

Difficult to say what the appropriate dynamic power should be for any room size.  It really depends on your listening habits, the room accoustics, speaker sensitivty and the music genre you like to listen.  For instance, classical music requires the largest dynamic headroom of all.  Pop and Disco the least as their recording mixes are almost always compressed dynamically. 

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: antukin on May 12, 2004 at 07:37 PM


Doesn't the tech spec indicate the dynamic headroom of your yammy 440? 

Difficult to say what the appropriate dynamic power should be for any room size.  It really depends on your listening habits, the room accoustics, speaker sensitivty and the music genre you like to listen.  For instance, classical music requires the largest dynamic headroom of all.  Pop, Disco and Rock, the least as their recording mixes are almost always compressed dynamically. 



i was able to search about this thread (i usually forgot to use the "search" button) and this dynamic range settings provide for burst of power to speakers. the manual does not have detailed explanation (for newbies like me). it only says max-for feature films. my observation is, whenever i set the volume for films, the dialogues are ok, but when the action starts, KABOOM!!! (the whole block. ehehehe)

salamats
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on May 12, 2004 at 07:49 PM


i was able to search about this thread (i usually forgot to use the "search" button) and this dynamic range settings provide for burst of power to speakers. the manual does not have detailed explanation (for newbies like me). it only says max-for feature films. my observation is, whenever i set the volume for films, the dialogues are ok, but when the action starts, KABOOM!!! (the whole block. ehehehe)

salamats

DVD mixes are designed that way.  They want the film to look and sound realistic.  Dialogues in reality can just be 50db or 60db of SPL 1 meter away.   A jet aircraft a few feet away gives off 150db or about 35 times more power.  A bomb or grenade explosion in reality will generate so much more energy than that as it will shatter glass windows 20 meters away.  Aren't you glad your glass windows are still intact after watching Saving Private Ryan?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bravoexo on May 12, 2004 at 08:01 PM
What glass windows?   :o   ha ha ha
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: johnlen on May 13, 2004 at 08:54 AM
uhmmm... can someone tell me what's the Dynamic Range settings for in the yamy440? what is suitable for a 2.5mx3.5m room.

salamats.

without the dynamic range setting we tend to turn up the volume up a bit to effectively hear dialog but at the same time blasts and rumblings become uncomfortably loud (for neighbors) when we watch movies at night, so some people use dynamic range setting to tame loud passages without affecting dialog volume level.

but if you want to hear the dvd audio mix as intended by the sound engineers, turn off or do not use dynamic range setting.

av_phile is talking about the other kind of dynamic range. choose what is necessarily useful for you.

 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on May 13, 2004 at 01:52 PM


Thanks arthurallanj.  I'll try to live up to your expectation  ;D

The Z2 is an excellent performer as I am sure you must have read from reviews on the net.  The Z9 is even more awesome.  The SRP equally so.   Their product brochures and technical specs are likewise impressive.  As far as input and output flexibilities for the preamp section is concered, they have little competition from other receivers in their class.  Their digital processing features are simply without equal.  For the same price, I may get a Rotel or Krell multi-channel preamp, but the featurers will almost fail in comparison, sonic quality besides.  I really would love to have any of the Z-class receivers as a preamp. 

Bro AV,
Thanks. Hanggang AZ2 na lang siguro ang ambisyon ko. That's where I've set my limits. Kung makakakuha ako nito then, ok na ako. Hehehe. Thanks again.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on May 14, 2004 at 11:41 PM
Yamaha 550 is now available at Electronics Depot
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mattmatt on May 17, 2004 at 08:49 AM
av_phile, advice lang bro, torn between ako between oknkyo 801 and yamaha rxv 1400, pls. dont tell me to audition..just ur advice..plan to pair it with mission volare series or 780 se..plus velo cht 10 sub..thanks in advance!! ??? ;) :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on May 17, 2004 at 11:32 AM
av_phile, advice lang bro, torn between ako between oknkyo 801 and yamaha rxv 1400, pls. dont tell me to audition..just ur advice..plan to pair it with mission volare series or 780 se..plus velo cht 10 sub..thanks in advance!! ??? ;) :)

Ill go with the Yammy
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on May 17, 2004 at 01:26 PM
av_phile, advice lang bro, torn between ako between oknkyo 801 and yamaha rxv 1400, pls. dont tell me to audition..just ur advice..plan to pair it with mission volare series or 780 se..plus velo cht 10 sub..thanks in advance!! ??? ;) :)

From a personal take, I like how the new Yamaha series looks. They make handsomer receivers if you ask me. Impressively eye-catching.   But I'd still get an Onkyo 801 even if I consider their rubber footings a better fit for kitchen ovens.   ;D

I must say though that the YPAO equalizaton features of the Yammy is great and do seem to carry more practical usefullness than the Net-Tune feature of the Onks.  Both are THX certified, and 7.1 channels of similar power, so there really isn't much edge either way, I should think.

There's really a great battle going on among mid to flagship receivers.   I'd be really stomped to decide which is better in terms of digital processing features.  I've come across some comments on the net that claim, and which I tend to agree, that almost all mid and top receivers provide excellent digital processing features that can rival the best standalone HT preamps/processors from Krell, Lexicon and Sunfire.  At about the same SRPs.  They say  that power amps are just thrown in to make them more palatable to the market.  Maybe.  As a result, many use them as pre/pros mated to better power amps.

I must admit, in the power amplifer department of receivers, I'd go for the Onkyo, HK, NAD and Rotel.    I find them more musically convincing. And what is good for music is also good for HT.  Never the reverse.    But that's my personal assessment based on previous Yamaha models.  Perhaps the newer ones are much better in the musicality area.  And since you don't want me to adivice you to audition, I won't. 

Having said all that,  I wouldn't mind getting a Yamaha 1400 or any of the Z series as a preamp, if I can afford one.  he he ;D   Am not sure if I helped you in your dilmena, but that's about the best I can say about the two in you choices.   
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: krets pulpol on May 17, 2004 at 05:28 PM
but those rubber footings of onkyo has it's purpose.  though it might look ugly outside but it does lessen vibrations.  i noticed it before when playing music at louder volumes, i can feel the vibrations from the dvd player but none or hardly noticeable with the onkyo receiver.

mattmatt
for the yammies, you have a lot of dsps to choose if you're going to spend most of your time watching movies.  as other users say it, for home theatre, they prefer the yammy but not for stereo because it doesn't sound natural, too much processing.  the good thing about this 1400 is the equalization feature as stated by av_phile.  you can also tweak different settings to suit your taste.  they also offer good set of pre-outs and connections.

for the onkies, they're both good in ht and stereo (but not comparable with good separates/integrated amps) but will do.  and yep i have to agree with av_phile, the net tunes feature sounds impractical to use.  but for reliability, i can atest the onkies have an edge.  they have solid transformers and power supplies though you still need avrs for surge protection.

as you said it, you don't want to hear "audition" as an advice but how can tell the difference if won't listen to these receivers.  you'll need to check an av store carrying them together so you can compare side by side.

my opinion only, cheers
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mattmatt on May 17, 2004 at 06:17 PM


From a personal take, I like how the new Yamaha series looks. They make handsomer receivers if you ask me. Impressively eye-catching.   But I'd still get an Onkyo 801 even if I consider their rubber footings a better fit for kitchen ovens.   ;D

I must say though that the YPAO equalizaton features of the Yammy is great and do seem to carry more practical usefullness than the Net-Tune feature of the Onks.  Both are THX certified, and 7.1 channels of similar power, so there really isn't much edge either way, I should think.
There's really a great battle going on among mid to flagship receivers.   I'd be really stomped to decide which is better in terms of digital processing features.  I've come across some comments on the net that claim, and which I tend to agree, that almost all mid and top receivers provide excellent digital processing features that can rival the best standalone HT preamps/processors from Krell, Lexicon and Sunfire.  At about the same SRPs.  They say  that power amps are just thrown in to make them more palatable to the market.  Maybe.  As a result, many use them as pre/pros mated to better power amps.

I must admit, in the power amplifer department of receivers, I'd go for the Onkyo, HK, NAD and Rotel.    I find them more musically convincing. And what is good for music is also good for HT.  Never the reverse.    But that's my personal assessment based on previous Yamaha models.  Perhaps the newer ones are much better in the musicality area.  And since you don't want me to adivice you to audition, I won't. 

Having said all that,  I wouldn't mind getting a Yamaha 1400 or any of the Z series as a preamp, if I can afford one.  he he ;D   Am not sure if I helped you in your dilmena, but that's about the best I can say about the two in you choices.   
Thanks for all the suggestions cge na nga will audition it na lang at st home theater..but if you can come with opinions in a couple of weeks pls. dont hesitate to post your review..not in a hurry to buy pa naman..thanks again!!
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mattmatt on May 17, 2004 at 09:44 PM

congrats sa new receiver mo. i am sure you will enjoy it more after sometime (burn-in). mine is the rxv1400 and at this price point, i am very much satisfied.
can you pls. tell me what speakers you match with?? I plan to buy the rxv1400 and match with mission speakers v61 or 780se..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Archie on May 18, 2004 at 05:05 PM
hi.. am planning to buy the rxv-450.
 
anybody know where it's available and  the price?

thanks..
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wolf666 on May 18, 2004 at 05:14 PM

can you pls. tell me what speakers you match with?? I plan to buy the rxv1400 and match with mission speakers v61 or 780se..

what sounds good to me might not sound good to you or others. anyway, i have done some auditioning before finally deciding on the speakers. below are the speakers i considered but finally decided to get KEF Q1. Nga pala, am 50/50 HT/audio.
1. KEF Q1
2. Mission 780
3. Monitor Audio Bronze B2
4. Monitor Audio Silver Series (forgot the model)
5. Aegis Evo 2
6. B&W 602 S3
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mattmatt on May 18, 2004 at 06:49 PM


what sounds good to me might not sound good to you or others. anyway, i have done some auditioning before finally deciding on the speakers. below are the speakers i considered but finally decided to get KEF Q1. Nga pala, am 50/50 HT/audio.
1. KEF Q1
2. Mission 780
3. Monitor Audio Bronze B2
4. Monitor Audio Silver Series (forgot the model)
5. Aegis Evo 2
6. B&W 602 S3

Why KEF Q1? and how much per pair? who's the dealer here? thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on May 18, 2004 at 06:56 PM
Have seen the KEF Q series at Sound Dimension Park Square 1.  But the stocks are fast diminishing. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on May 18, 2004 at 07:01 PM
KEF Q1 is available in Sound Dimension for about 14.5K (sale Price). It is also available in Sights N Sound but in higher price.

Thank you.
Title: Re:Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wolf666 on May 18, 2004 at 11:03 PM
Why KEF Q1? and how much per pair? who's the dealer here? thanks

Here goes.... After hearing both B&W 600 and 602 S3, I was initially bent on buying the 602. Between the 2, malayo yung sound ng 600 lalo na sa bass region. Since mahal dito sa Singapore ang 602 S3 (about $800 SGD), nag tingin pa ako ng ibang brands. My friend used to have Mission 780 and I know very well the sound of it. For it's price (around $600 SGD), I feel that it's way over priced here.

When I heard the Aegis Evo 2 naman from a friends house using Yamaha 640 receiver, i fell in love with its detail sound. And for its price ($350 SGD), I feel it can rival the sound of the mission for a lot less. The B&W is still way above this league. I almost bought the Aegis Evo 3B (not sure of model but it's the complete 5.1 setup with floorstanders). Also auditioned Bronze B2 and find it almost in the same class as Evo 2 (they have the same price here).

When I was auditioning NAD T762 at one of the HIFI shops here, KEF Q7 were being used. Out of curiosity, I asked the salesman to change them with Q1. I WAS SO IMPRESSED after I heared them and for their price ($600 SGD), I find them a lot better than the 780, Evo 2 and Bronze B2. Soundstage is awsome for its price. I feel the bass of 602 somewhat stronger and bigger, but I can't justify it's price aginst the Q1. I even asked a friend who is also into Audio and HT to come with me and re-audition the Q1. He was also impressed and he's planning to buy them anytime soon.

As others will tell you, it's best that you audition yourself and find the best you can find with your budget. I found mine and am very happy ever since.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wolf666 on May 18, 2004 at 11:06 PM
KEF Q1 is available in Sound Dimension for about 14.5K (sale Price). It is also available in Sights N Sound but in higher price.

Thank you.

kakainggit, mura-mura lang ng KEf Q1 dyan. Any idea kung magkano Kef Q7?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mr_raymondsx on May 19, 2004 at 06:27 PM

i am new in ht set up....so pls help me out guys

id like to get helpful opinions and experiences sa yamaha na balak ko bilhin.

ano masasabi nyo sa yamaha RSV 630?

match kaya to sa EFD pregnant series ng dai-ichi speakers?

tnx
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on May 19, 2004 at 09:56 PM

i am new in ht set up....so pls help me out guys

id like to get helpful opinions and experiences sa yamaha na balak ko bilhin.

ano masasabi nyo sa yamaha RSV 630?

match kaya to sa EFD pregnant series ng dai-ichi speakers?

tnx

Maybe ur talking about the Yammy RXV 630, well Yamaha is a good sounding amp, specially sa mga movies, so nde ka nagkakamali if u buy a yammy, but still u audition it and compare it sa ibang available na receiver with the same price range :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mr_raymondsx on May 20, 2004 at 09:55 AM
tnx courage!

tama ka rxv nga pala....

anyone else's opinion pls
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on May 20, 2004 at 12:40 PM


kakainggit, mura-mura lang ng KEf Q1 dyan. Any idea kung magkano Kef Q7?

This is a 2-way floorstanding one with onblongated passive woofer I saw last December at Sound Dimension.  Costs over 60T if i recall right.  I actually wanted one but settled for a cheaper Mordaunt to complete my MS set-up. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wolf666 on May 20, 2004 at 04:37 PM

This is a 2-way floorstanding one with onblongated passive woofer I saw last December at Sound Dimension.  Costs over 60T if i recall right.  I actually wanted one but settled for a cheaper Mordaunt to complete my MS set-up. 

It's a 3way Floorstander w/ racetrack woofer. Last time I checked, Q7 cost SGD$1,900 = PHP62,000. Naka sale lang yung Q1 kaya mura siguro.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mattmatt on May 22, 2004 at 09:19 PM


From a personal take, I like how the new Yamaha series looks. They make handsomer receivers if you ask me. Impressively eye-catching.   But I'd still get an Onkyo 801 even if I consider their rubber footings a better fit for kitchen ovens.   ;D

I must say though that the YPAO equalizaton features of the Yammy is great and do seem to carry more practical usefullness than the Net-Tune feature of the Onks.  Both are THX certified, and 7.1 channels of similar power, so there really isn't much edge either way, I should think.

There's really a great battle going on among mid to flagship receivers.   I'd be really stomped to decide which is better in terms of digital processing features.  I've come across some comments on the net that claim, and which I tend to agree, that almost all mid and top receivers provide excellent digital processing features that can rival the best standalone HT preamps/processors from Krell, Lexicon and Sunfire.  At about the same SRPs.  They say  that power amps are just thrown in to make them more palatable to the market.  Maybe.  As a result, many use them as pre/pros mated to better power amps.

I must admit, in the power amplifer department of receivers, I'd go for the Onkyo, HK, NAD and Rotel.    I find them more musically convincing. And what is good for music is also good for HT.  Never the reverse.    But that's my personal assessment based on previous Yamaha models.  Perhaps the newer ones are much better in the musicality area.  And since you don't want me to adivice you to audition, I won't. 

Having said all that,  I wouldn't mind getting a Yamaha 1400 or any of the Z series as a preamp, if I can afford one.  he he ;D   Am not sure if I helped you in your dilmena, but that's about the best I can say about the two in you choices.   
Finally I auditioned the yamaha 1400 against the onkyo 900, kasi yung and nandyan sa store ni stuazon walang available ang 801 onkyo, anyway after listening for just 5 min. Undoubtedly the winner is Onkyo 900, No match, with due respect to yammyluvers..maganda rin ang yamaha 1400, but wait till you listen and compare it with onkyo 900, and to top it all, on sale pa cya kay stuzaon...parang kinompare mo and toyota prado sa honda crv..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: pilsen on May 23, 2004 at 10:32 AM
how much is the 900? and how does that compare to the new Onkyo 901s? Is there a difference in features?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on May 23, 2004 at 01:06 PM

Finally I auditioned the yamaha 1400 against the onkyo 900, kasi yung and nandyan sa store ni stuazon walang available ang 801 onkyo, anyway after listening for just 5 min. Undoubtedly the winner is Onkyo 900, No match, with due respect to yammyluvers..maganda rin ang yamaha 1400, but wait till you listen and compare it with onkyo 900, and to top it all, on sale pa cya kay stuzaon...parang kinompare mo and toyota prado sa honda crv..

Di ba magkaiba nang price range yan? How much is the Onkyo 900 compare sa RXV1400?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: pilsen on May 23, 2004 at 02:15 PM
Probably because the 900s are old models. It has been replaced by the 901s so I guess there has been a markdown in prices. Someone was selling me Yamahas 2300 for 36k. Brand new.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on May 25, 2004 at 01:13 AM

Finally I auditioned the yamaha 1400 against the onkyo 900, kasi yung and nandyan sa store ni stuazon walang available ang 801 onkyo, anyway after listening for just 5 min. Undoubtedly the winner is Onkyo 900, No match, with due respect to yammyluvers..maganda rin ang yamaha 1400, but wait till you listen and compare it with onkyo 900, and to top it all, on sale pa cya kay stuzaon...parang kinompare mo and toyota prado sa honda crv..

Eh d ba malayo presyo ng prado sa CRV!!!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mattmatt on May 25, 2004 at 07:35 AM


Eh d ba malayo presyo ng prado sa CRV!!!
precisely, kaya nga parang sinale yung prado, less 45% sa srp nga eh..kaya nga for additional 20% only sa selling ng crv, di ba you will get prado??that's what I meant...para di ka malito bro 36k ang yamaha and 48k and onkyo..na ang srp ay 88k..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on May 25, 2004 at 10:01 AM

precisely, kaya nga parang sinale yung prado, less 45% sa srp nga eh..kaya nga for additional 20% only sa selling ng crv, di ba you will get prado??that's what I meant...para di ka malito bro 36k ang yamaha and 48k and onkyo..na ang srp ay 88k..


Try to compare receivers na pareho price range. High end na ata nang Onkyo yung 900 eh while yung 1400 eh hindi.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on May 25, 2004 at 12:12 PM

precisely, kaya nga parang sinale yung prado, less 45% sa srp nga eh..kaya nga for additional 20% only sa selling ng crv, di ba you will get prado??that's what I meant...para di ka malito bro 36k ang yamaha and 48k and onkyo..na ang srp ay 88k..

e luma naman modelo ng prado kaya naging sale tapos new model naman CRV with new features. The same goes with the Yammy and Onkyo, wherein the Yammy has a lot of new features than the Onkyo 900.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on May 25, 2004 at 12:46 PM
I think this parallels my experience in 1999 when I bought the old Onkyo TXSV919THX DPL2 receiver for about the same price as a brand new mid-priced yamaha HT reveiver with DD/DTS decorder when i was still happy with my VHS and LD players.  That Onkyo 919 was an Onkyo flagship, the first THX-certified receiver in the world (meaningless to me anyway) and voted the best sounding receiver for music by many reviewers.  It was on sale for 50% off and I just grabbed it over the newer more feature-laden Yamaha at Tech Central.  I guess it all boils down to the consumer's value judgement at the time of purchase.  I wanted a proven musical receiver.  I still didn't have any DVD player at that time, so those DD/DTS were meaningless to me. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on May 25, 2004 at 12:59 PM
For me, we are not getting backwards. New technologies are developed in time so I guess its worthwhile to invest on something that you'll have use in the next few days or so.   :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mattmatt on May 25, 2004 at 06:27 PM


Di ba magkaiba nang price range yan? How much is the Onkyo 900 compare sa RXV1400?
yamaha rxv 1400- php36k, onkyo 900 on sale you can get it just under 50k..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mr_raymondsx on May 28, 2004 at 02:21 AM
i just bought an rxv440 and im matching it with dai ichi dtx efd pregnant series speakers w/ 512l mk2 dtx sub.
gemini hifi audio cables lang binili ko.eto ang kinaya ng munti kong ipon.

rxv 440---13k
efd pregnant ng dtx / dai ichi (center, tower type front and bookshelf type sorround)
w/ 512 L mk2 na dtx sub---- 27k
50mtrs. gemini and nobelle audio cables---3k
panasanic dvd player progressive scan---6k

mga tsong im super satisfied na...panis ang sm cinema's (hehe)

ano masasabi nyo mga expert kong ka-forum?


Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on May 28, 2004 at 09:35 AM
i just bought an rxv440 and im matching it with dai ichi dtx efd pregnant series speakers w/ 512l mk2 dtx sub.
gemini hifi audio cables lang binili ko.eto ang kinaya ng munti kong ipon.

rxv 440---13k
efd pregnant ng dtx / dai ichi (center, tower type front and bookshelf type sorround)
w/ 512 L mk2 na dtx sub---- 27k
50mtrs. gemini and nobelle audio cables---3k
panasanic dvd player progressive scan---6k

mga tsong im super satisfied na...panis ang sm cinema's (hehe)

ano masasabi nyo mga expert kong ka-forum?




YOuve got a nice setup there bro. Im sure ull enjoy it for years. DVD addiction naman ehehehe.... ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mr_raymondsx on May 29, 2004 at 01:34 AM
tnx courage....

i really hope so...:)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on May 29, 2004 at 02:09 AM
i just bought an rxv440 and im matching it with dai ichi dtx efd pregnant series speakers w/ 512l mk2 dtx sub.
gemini hifi audio cables lang binili ko.eto ang kinaya ng munti kong ipon.

rxv 440---13k
efd pregnant ng dtx / dai ichi (center, tower type front and bookshelf type sorround)
w/ 512 L mk2 na dtx sub---- 27k
50mtrs. gemini and nobelle audio cables---3k
panasanic dvd player progressive scan---6k

mga tsong im super satisfied na...panis ang sm cinema's (hehe)

ano masasabi nyo mga expert kong ka-forum?




nice setup bro :D
any reviews on the rxv440 regarding audio, i've heard that the 40 series sound warmer than the 30 series but i never got to read any review on this from fellow members (am contemplating on geting the 640). i myself own a rxv630 paired with wharfs. for HT its really great but for audio its the other way around.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on May 29, 2004 at 02:53 AM
nice setup bro :D
any reviews on the rxv440 regarding audio, i've heard that the 40 series sound warmer than the 30 series but i never got to read any review on this from fellow members (am contemplating on geting the 640). i myself own a rxv630 paired with wharfs. for HT its really great but for audio its the other way around.

I have compared both entry-levels Yamaha 440 and Marantz 4400,  mas warm at mas maganda pa rin ang Marantz in terms of 2ch and 5.1ch stereo mode (lalu na sa SACD or DVD-Audio materials).   But other than that, it's Yamaha all the way.

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mr_raymondsx on May 29, 2004 at 01:20 PM

tnx kimpao....

i bought the 440 because when i auditioned it on cd auio hindi na sya sharp tulad ng ibang yamaha and for dvd movies it really sounds great when i matched it with my dtx efd speakers.

not to mention its an EISA awardee 2003-2004.







nice setup bro :D
any reviews on the rxv440 regarding audio, i've heard that the 40 series sound warmer than the 30 series but i never got to read any review on this from fellow members (am contemplating on geting the 640). i myself own a rxv630 paired with wharfs. for HT its really great but for audio its the other way around.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: [r0n1n] on Jun 01, 2004 at 09:16 AM
efd pregnant ng dtx / dai ichi (center, tower type front and bookshelf type sorround)
w/ 512 L mk2 na dtx sub---- 27k

medyo ot from yammy thread: is this a package deal? pa-PM naman ng specs ng mga speakers. thanks  :D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: allvin_98 on Jun 02, 2004 at 01:00 PM
mga sir san po nakakabili ng YAMAHA RXV-450.

Thanks

allvin_98
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimosabe on Jun 02, 2004 at 01:24 PM
mga sir san po nakakabili ng YAMAHA RXV-450.

Thanks

allvin_98

Try mo sa Ambasador and Listening Room/Style.  ;D ;D ;D

Pakisama na rin po yung price......  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bravoexo on Jun 02, 2004 at 09:49 PM
mayroon nang rxv-650 sa watt-hifi and archi audio i believe.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Jun 03, 2004 at 09:44 AM
yes I heard lot of rave reviews on Yamaha...and it does sound good.

just asking how good are Yamaha speakers when packaged with a their recevier?
speaking strictly on HT set-up...

planning to get RXV450...thanks guys  O0
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Jun 03, 2004 at 11:34 AM
I dont see much difference between 440 and 450 model except for the auto-calibration on the latest model.  So I think its still ok to go for 440 lalu na kung bagsak presyo.


Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on Jun 03, 2004 at 11:47 AM
I dont see much difference between 440 and 450 model except for the auto-calibration on the latest model.  So I think its still ok to go for 440 lalu na kung bagsak presyo.


The 450 and 550 does not have YPAO (Auto calibration), 650 and above series have YPAO. Both 550 and 450 suppport DTS 96/24 and DPLIIx; while the 550 supports S-Video upconversion .
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Jun 03, 2004 at 11:54 AM

The 450 and 550 does not have YPAO (Auto calibration), 650 and above series have YPAO. Both 550 and 450 suppport DTS 96/24 and DPLIIx; while the 550 supports S-Video upconversion .

O yeah, meron nga palang DTS 96/24 at DPL2x  yung 450 na wala sa 440.  I have read somewhere na meron nang YPAO yung 450.  Anyway, I'll found out this weekend, demo ko dun sa shop dito.


Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Jun 03, 2004 at 12:05 PM
The 450 and 550 does not have YPAO (Auto calibration), 650 and above series have YPAO. Both 550 and 450 suppport DTS 96/24 and DPLIIx; while the 550 supports S-Video upconversion .

Yup, you're right. Here the chart comparison for x50series:
http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/compare/receiver_18.htm

Here the chart comparison for x40series:
http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/compare/recvr_16.htm




Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: drexx on Jun 03, 2004 at 04:00 PM
03Jun2004 (UTC -7)

hey just read this one!!....wachatink? ;D

   Yamaha representatives presented their 2004 product line to their dealers in Florida. They introduced a handful of very powerful and interesting products, one of which was the successor to the RX-Z1 the RX-Z9.
...

I think it's a great product. ;) They sold me their one here in GoodGuys.com in San Jose (California) for 0% interest, payable in 30 months, with some Monster cables free :D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Jun 03, 2004 at 05:50 PM
how much difference between the 440 and 450 sir?
thanks :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: classicman on Jun 06, 2004 at 10:22 AM
how much difference between the 440 and 450 sir?
thanks :)


bump.....and what are the basic differences of these two models  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on Jun 07, 2004 at 10:15 AM


bump.....and what are the basic differences of these two models  ::) ::) ::)

450: 85 watts per channel
2 optical inputs
No digital output
No S-Video

550: 90 watts per channel
3 optical inputs
1 digital output
supports composite to S-video upconversion
Supports Zone 2 (not powered)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: classicman on Jun 07, 2004 at 08:50 PM


450: 85 watts per channel
2 optical inputs
No digital output
No S-Video

550: 90 watts per channel
3 optical inputs
1 digital output
supports composite to S-video upconversion
Supports Zone 2 (not powered)

thanks a lot sir Philander
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: classicman on Jun 07, 2004 at 08:54 PM
would anyone know the price of 550, and is it available already, saan kaya ang pinakamura
 ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on Jun 08, 2004 at 08:39 AM
would anyone know the price of 550, and is it available already, saan kaya ang pinakamura
 ::) ::) ::)

Contact Listening n Style and electronics depot, they already have one. Price is about 23K
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Jun 15, 2004 at 02:10 PM
after months of research, saving up, and asking stupid newbie questions at pinoydvd.....

i finally bought my first-ever HT receiver last night....after several auditons..my ears felt more at home with the YAMMY 440...:)

(at 13.7K on deferred payment at sights and suonds)
I find this product the best bang for buck.
yamaha is truly splendid in giving us affordable and yet hi-tech receivers....i'll install the unit tonight
have to clean up all the mess on my AV rack....

and lastly - THANKS FOR THIS THREAD.. O0

next project : speakers!..hehe
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Jun 15, 2004 at 03:30 PM
i finally bought my first-ever HT receiver last night....after several auditons..my ears felt more at home with the YAMMY 440...:)

Congrats,  epektib yung 'Enhanced' options for movies tapos 'DPL2 Music' naman for audio cd's.  Anong speakers ang ipa-partner mo diyan?

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: audi0slave on Jun 15, 2004 at 03:42 PM
after months of research, saving up, and asking stupid newbie questions at pinoydvd.....

i finally bought my first-ever HT receiver last night....after several auditons..my ears felt more at home with the YAMMY 440...:)


bro, congrats on your new purchase!! don't hesitate to ask questions here to maximize your settings. even viewing your DVDs without the DSPs, maganda pa rin yan...

 ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Superman on Jun 15, 2004 at 03:43 PM
congrats tryaudio! may sinehan na sa apartment mo, yehey!...nood tayo ha! 8)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Jun 15, 2004 at 04:04 PM


Congrats,  epektib yung 'Enhanced' options for movies tapos 'DPL2 Music' naman for audio cd's.  Anong speakers ang ipa-partner mo diyan?



JT,
I have a pair of Mission 780 bookshelves which I'll temporarily hook up (am planning to set this aside for my audio set-up)
and I have a pair of rivo-tweaked SB20 bookshelves..plus DQ12 subs...i'll experiment later which one's i'll use for fronts....wala pakong center..i might get one later..hehe..parang sinusundot na yung fwet ko sa atat mag 5.1 eh :)





bro, congrats on your new purchase!! don't hesitate to ask questions here to maximize your settings. even viewing your DVDs without the DSPs, maganda pa rin yan...

 ;D

Audioslave,
dude pwede ka na talaga ma-apply sa yamaha...effective kang salesman! :) thanks for your help



congrats tryaudio! may sinehan na sa apartment mo, yehey!...nood tayo ha! 8)

mr superman,
i'll invite you guys pag natapos ko na mini-home theater ko ha...:) kailangan ko pa room acoustics at aircon..at maganda sofa...at better speakers..at new paints...at magandang babaeng naglalakad nang naka-mini skirt! hahaha :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Superman on Jun 15, 2004 at 04:19 PM

...at magandang babaeng naglalakad nang naka-mini skirt! hahaha :)


yan ang pinaka-importante...live ha...hehehehe!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Jun 15, 2004 at 04:24 PM
JT,
I have a pair of Mission 780 bookshelves which I'll temporarily hook up (am planning to set this aside for my audio set-up) and I have a pair of rivo-tweaked SB20 bookshelves..plus DQ12 subs...i'll experiment later which one's i'll use for fronts....wala pakong center..i might get one later..hehe..parang sinusundot na yung fwet ko sa atat mag 5.1 eh :)

You can try Mission speakers across all channels,  sure win yun to partner with Yammy 440. 



Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: slayer on Jun 15, 2004 at 04:27 PM
Try,

Ahahahaha... lahat tayo dumaan diyan!!



pakong center..i might get one later..hehe..parang sinusundot na yung fwet ko sa atat mag 5.1 eh :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Jun 15, 2004 at 05:58 PM
JT,
please dont speak like that...am really inclined to going missions all the way..but my pocket dictates otherwise. huhuhu!

Slayer,
yung parang feeling na kailangan magkaroon nako tonight or else magugunaw na mundo...now my hair blows up like this  O0

Superman,
baka mabutas yung super-suite mo pre..dahan dahan :)



Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fierari on Jun 16, 2004 at 11:07 AM
just bought rxv-440 titanium from sound dimension 10k walang box. good deal na ba?  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: audi0slave on Jun 16, 2004 at 11:14 AM
fierari,

OK na yan basta ba may remote control naman eh lalo na kung may warranty din yan eh di mas OK pa...

 ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on Jun 16, 2004 at 11:17 AM
just bought rxv-440 titanium from sound dimension 10k walang box. good deal na ba?  ;D

Good deal as long na complete accessories.

Meron pa ba?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fierari on Jun 16, 2004 at 11:19 AM
fierari,

OK na yan basta ba may remote control naman eh lalo na kung may warranty din yan eh di mas OK pa...

 ;D
ayus hehe kef cresta 10 gamit ko pati 20c center. san ba nakakbili ng coax? at magkano?

tnx.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: komodo on Jun 16, 2004 at 11:40 AM
mga dude bago lang ako d2 sa hobby na ito ano ba ang maipapayo nyo sa pag set up ng ht my budget is only around 20k. Getting a yamaha receiver ba is a good option if yes what model? mga 18 sq m lang yung paglalagyan. Pls. help me!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Jun 16, 2004 at 11:49 AM
mga dude bago lang ako d2 sa hobby na ito ano ba ang maipapayo nyo sa pag set up ng ht my budget is only around 20k. Getting a yamaha receiver ba is a good option if yes what model? mga 18 sq m lang yung paglalagyan. Pls. help me!

20K for the whole HT or just for the reciever?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fierari on Jun 16, 2004 at 12:09 PM


Good deal as long na complete accessories.

Meron pa ba?


di ko sure eh baka may ibang model kasi nasira lang daw box nun sa kabilang tindahan nila pinang display ata nila for sometime tapos nawala na yung box.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: iceman90a on Jun 16, 2004 at 12:56 PM

mr superman,
i'll invite you guys pag natapos ko na mini-home theater ko ha...:) kailangan ko pa room acoustics at aircon..at maganda sofa...at better speakers..at new paints...at magandang babaeng naglalakad nang naka-mini skirt! hahaha :)

sama ako ha! kahit wala na lahat yung tweaks at aircon, basta meron na nung babae OK na yun! :D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fierari on Jun 16, 2004 at 01:07 PM


sama ako ha! kahit wala na lahat yung tweaks at aircon, basta meron na nung babae OK na yun! :D


oist! sama din ako jan lol
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Jun 16, 2004 at 01:54 PM
oist! sama din ako jan lol

Yoh, gusto ko rin sumama pero nasa malayo ako ... pwedeng pa-PM na lang nung pics nung babae???

Title: ~
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Jun 16, 2004 at 02:23 PM
dahil sa di makapag-antay na sandali at sa sobrang atat kong mag 5.1 set-up eh nakabili nako ng Mission M7c2 center kahapon...it sounds great on the yammy 440!!!....after setting up the system with 780 fronts and DTX SB20 as rears...i finally turned it on for the first time...i slept 4am kanina.. O0

-i realized I needed a toslink to get better audio...i bought an ixos toslink kanina sa image  ;D testing it tonight.

thanks so much to my ever reliable audio advisor (mr. audioslave) - take note guys pwede nyo sya distorbohin until midnight for your audio troubleshooting...best of all, its free of charge!!!hehe..kiss lang katapat! hahaha..
million thanks to you sir AUDIOSLAVE!


iceman, jt, feirari - kaso yung legs nung chicks balbon... >:D
Title: Re: ~
Post by: slayer on Jun 16, 2004 at 02:25 PM
Brad,

Subukan mo rin mag coaxial... bright at manipis para sakin ang toslink. Pagawa ka nalang kay ... kalimutan ko pangalan nung taga IMAGE.  >:D

dahil sa di makapag-antay na sandali at sa sobrang atat kong mag 5.1 set-up eh nakabili nako ng Mission M7c2 center kahapon...it sounds great on the yammy 440!!!....after setting up the system with 780 fronts and DTX SB20 as rears...i finally turned it on for the first time...i slept 4am kanina.. O0

-i realized I needed a toslink to get better audio...i bought an ixos toslink kanina sa image  ;D testing it tonight.

thanks so much to my ever reliable audio advisor (mr. audioslave) - take note guys pwede nyo sya distorbohin until midnight for your audio troubleshooting...best of all, its free of charge!!!hehe..kiss lang katapat! hahaha..
million thanks to you sir AUDIOSLAVE!


iceman, jt, feirari - kaso yung legs nung chicks balbon... >:D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Jun 16, 2004 at 02:37 PM
di ata pwede coax sa 440 on DVD...am not sure on this...can someone confirm?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: slayer on Jun 16, 2004 at 02:50 PM
Pag nag switch ka ba sa coax walang DSP processing (DD/DTS)? Di mo naman ata gagamitin yung Video ng amp mo eh... try mo mag switch to CD using coax.

di ata pwede coax sa 440 on DVD...am not sure on this...can someone confirm?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Jun 16, 2004 at 03:15 PM
slayer,

do you mean I could use the CD coax input for DVD audio playback on my amp? so I have to set the input selector on the DVD to coax...can it decode dts?....naiintindihan mo ba? hehe

thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: don jose on Jun 16, 2004 at 03:22 PM
hi guys, new hir.

is yamaha really the best receiver compared to others?
 i'm currently using pioneer vsx-d811s. dvd-audio ready na to 120w, 7.1 ch, sounds good naman, but planing to add. been luking around at the sites comparing, found out na mas marami features yamaha lalo na sa sound variations.
does NHT speakers good 4 pairing up w/ yamaha?  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: slayer on Jun 16, 2004 at 03:35 PM
try,

hindi! Ahahahaa.... hindi ako sure kung kaya mag decode ng DD/DTS yung COAX IN mo kasi CD yung label niya eh.

don jose,

If you're into HT more than audio and my answer is YES.

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 16, 2004 at 03:41 PM
slayer,

do you mean I could use the CD coax input for DVD audio playback on my amp? so I have to set the input selector on the DVD to coax...can it decode dts?....naiintindihan mo ba? hehe

thanks

Sir you can use either COAX or Optical (toslink) just set your AVr to Coax.. pwede na AUDIO or HT man sir..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: slayer on Jun 16, 2004 at 03:44 PM
Master Hans,

Medyo alanganin sir... eto yung pix nung Digital IN

(http://www.yamaha.com/yec/images/RXV440_1.jpg)

Coax IN - CD yung nakalagay, baka hindi maka decode ng DD/DTS



Sir you can use either COAX or Optical (toslink) just set your AVr to Coax.. pwede na AUDIO or HT man sir..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Jun 16, 2004 at 03:45 PM
hans and france,

thanks..could I use the coax CD input? isa lang kasi coax nang 440 eh...thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fierari on Jun 16, 2004 at 05:13 PM
hans and france,

thanks..could I use the coax CD input? isa lang kasi coax nang 440 eh...thanks

pwede yan sir nasubukan ko kagabi nakakpag dts sya. sa front panel pwede mo naman i assign yan na dvd eh. kaso di pa rin ako marunong kakabli ko lang nung akin. kaya pag sa front panel selector ng input cd ang pinipili ko. dapat pag plug mo nyan iilaw yung PCM (meaning digital signal coming in) sa front panel  ;D


patanong nga pala ser magkano kuha mo sa dtx sb20? la pa din ako surround hehe
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Jun 16, 2004 at 05:21 PM

pwede yan sir nasubukan ko kagabi nakakpag dts sya. sa front panel pwede mo naman i assign yan na dvd eh. kaso di pa rin ako marunong kakabli ko lang nung akin. kaya pag sa front panel selector ng input cd ang pinipili ko. dapat pag plug mo nyan iilaw yung PCM (meaning digital signal coming in) sa front panel  ;D

Ang alam ko kahit di na i-assign. Kapag ginamit mo yung both RCA and COAX CD input, priority yung COAX kapag sabay na may signal input. 

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fierari on Jun 16, 2004 at 05:38 PM


Ang alam ko kahit di na i-assign. Kapag ginamit mo yung both RCA and COAX CD input, priority yung COAX kapag sabay na may signal input. 



di ko din alam eh yun aken kasi gumagana lang coax in pag naka select ka sa cd  :) not unless yung input na yun eh i assign ko sa dvd magbabago na sya not sure though
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Jun 16, 2004 at 06:02 PM
nice buy feirari! 10k murang mura..i got mine the other day 13.7k :(
i'll try it again tonight..langya di ko rin maintindihan eh..dapat mag-aral muna nang manual..hehe

i bought my SB20 kay rene rivo....6k tweaked
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fierari on Jun 16, 2004 at 06:27 PM
nice buy feirari! 10k murang mura..i got mine the other day 13.7k :(
i'll try it again tonight..langya di ko rin maintindihan eh..dapat mag-aral muna nang manual..hehe

i bought my SB20 kay rene rivo....6k tweaked

wala naman kahon yun saken saka mejo used na siguro yun demo unit eh.

6k for dtx? floorstanding ba yun?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Jun 17, 2004 at 06:35 AM


wala naman kahon yun saken saka mejo used na siguro yun demo unit eh.

6k for dtx? floorstanding ba yun?

Ehehehehe uyyy searching na for surrounds ha, daming pera ni fafa perari, after that sub woofer naman ang bibilhin mo ehehehehe
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fierari on Jun 17, 2004 at 09:29 AM


Ehehehehe uyyy searching na for surrounds ha, daming pera ni fafa perari, after that sub woofer naman ang bibilhin mo ehehehehe


subwoofer uunahin ko heheh gagamit na lang muna ko ng domestic speaker sa bahay pang surround lol. bumili na ko ng coax cable at last di na rca gamit ko ganda na lalo tunog heheheh
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: komodo on Jun 17, 2004 at 12:03 PM
Mga Pre saan nyo ba nabili ng mura yang mga Yammie nyo patulong naman para makatipid ng konti thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Jun 17, 2004 at 02:15 PM
komodo..
i got mine sights and sounds shangrila..look for Jun..he can give it for 13.5k on cash basis...he's very accomodating...and very patient din..hehe

HTH and good luck :)
Title: Re: Yamaha RX-V440
Post by: audi0slave on Jun 17, 2004 at 04:02 PM
thanks so much to my ever reliable audio advisor (mr. audioslave) - take note guys pwede nyo sya distorbohin until midnight for your audio troubleshooting...best of all, its free of charge!!!hehe..kiss lang katapat! hahaha..
million thanks to you sir AUDIOSLAVE!


you're welcome bro... and thanks for the compliment...

how's the 440 doing... now that you've got the toslink? ganda na yan... kumpleto ka na sa speakers ... with subs pa...   :o ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha RX-V440
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Jun 17, 2004 at 07:51 PM


you're welcome bro... and thanks for the compliment...

how's the 440 doing... now that you've got the toslink? ganda na yan... kumpleto ka na sa speakers ... with subs pa...   :o ;D

am learning to tweak it abit...now  it sounds much better!!! hehe
salamat ulit kapatid!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Archie on Jun 17, 2004 at 11:10 PM
sir... what's the main difference between the 440 and the 450.  what's interest me most is the 2 optical inputs the 450 have. how about the price... is it worth it?  tnx.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on Jun 18, 2004 at 10:24 AM
sir... what's the main difference between the 440 and the 450.  what's interest me most is the 2 optical inputs the 450 have. how about the price... is it worth it?  tnx.


Everything except that 450 supports DTS 96/24 and DPLIIx.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: komodo on Jun 18, 2004 at 02:24 PM
tryaudio,

Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Jason_10 on Jun 24, 2004 at 12:12 AM
mga dudes,

ive seen a yamaha rxv 430 yata yung model at golden sound. finally silver na yung color. kaso i forgot to ask how much it costs. im planning to get one for my grad gift. what shop do u recommend that offers the best deals? 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on Jun 24, 2004 at 01:08 AM
mga dudes,

ive seen a yamaha rxv 430 yata yung model at golden sound. finally silver na yung color. kaso i forgot to ask how much it costs. im planning to get one for my grad gift. what shop do u recommend that offers the best deals? 

Try to contact listening n Style in shangrila or Ambassador Appliances
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Jason_10 on Jun 24, 2004 at 11:20 AM
will do just that. btw, what's the contact number of listening n style and ambassador appliances?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on Jun 24, 2004 at 11:33 AM
will do just that. btw, what's the contact number of listening n style and ambassador appliances?

For directory and contact number:
http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=1784.0
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 24, 2004 at 11:54 AM
hans and france,

thanks..could I use the coax CD input? isa lang kasi coax nang 440 eh...thanks

Pre pwede cd input just toggle the input selection to digital or AUTO (kung meron) para everytime you plan to use it just press the CD and the AVR will do the processing of DTS or DD.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 24, 2004 at 11:57 AM


am learning to tweak it abit...now  it sounds much better!!! hehe
salamat ulit kapatid!

Try mo setting Center / small tapos Fronts/ Large and surround small.. levels Center +2 while Fronts/Surround 0.. as for sub.. 0 din..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: audi0slave on Jun 24, 2004 at 12:06 PM
tryaudio,

my settings with the 440 are as follows:

Room Size - Small
Fronts - Large (Speaker Level)  0
Center - Large (Spealer Level) +3
Surrounds - Small (Speaker Lvel) +2

pero pag may subs ka, try setting the Fronts and Center to Small and your sub cutt-off freq to 100.

 ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Jun 24, 2004 at 12:06 PM
Sir tama si master center and surrounds should be set to small. Center 2+ sakto lang yung surrounds lang ang pwede mo rin i-set to +1 Fronts and sub 0 zero dapat then timplahin mo nalang yung freq cut-off and vol nung sub itself
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Jun 24, 2004 at 12:09 PM
sir audioslave,

ang alam ko yung speaker setting nun yamaha para sa fronts is fixed yung bass ang pwede i-set kung both, fronts or subwoofer. :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: audi0slave on Jun 24, 2004 at 12:14 PM
di naman, may large and small speaker setting din yun. LFE frequency can be adjusted + or - 1 dB from its default setting of 100 dB so it can go to as low as 80 dB.

 ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 24, 2004 at 12:30 PM
audioslave,

Ok yan sir 440 model?? teka mukhang maganda start for my HT setup?? >:D >:D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: audi0slave on Jun 24, 2004 at 12:32 PM
hans,

tagal na HT ko bro. yan ang di pwedeng mawala kase yan ang passes ko kay mrs. para makabili ng audio gears.

 ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Jun 24, 2004 at 12:33 PM
audioslave,

Ok yan sir 440 model?? teka mukhang maganda start for my HT setup?? >:D >:D

2nds na yammy sir tapos wharf, dq-12, patok yan sir! >:D Tingnan mo sa akin di ko na nagagamit. :'( :'( Ahehehehehehe! >:D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Jun 24, 2004 at 12:35 PM
hans,

tagal na HT ko bro. yan ang di pwedeng mawala kase yan ang passes ko kay mrs. para makabili ng audio gears.

 ;D

Ahahahahaha! Sir, buti hindi nakaka-halata na ang ina-upgrade mo lang is yung audio. ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 24, 2004 at 12:43 PM
hans,

tagal na HT ko bro. yan ang di pwedeng mawala kase yan ang passes ko kay mrs. para makabili ng audio gears.

 ;D

audioslave,

Ikaw pala dapat IDOL namin sa kumander...... meron HT plan... este.......






passes pala... ;D ;D ;D

ipon ipon ulit... HT hay...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 24, 2004 at 01:11 PM
Audioslave,

Ayos pala specs ng 450 must check it out.. Spectra ba meron or Watt hifi?? >:D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Jun 24, 2004 at 01:13 PM
Aba! Big Time si Master!!!! Ayaw ng 440 gusto 450!!!!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 24, 2004 at 01:15 PM
Aba! Big Time si Master!!!! Ayaw ng 440 gusto 450!!!!! ;D ;D

SenyOR DoN kimpao,

Usi usi muna.. hirap na.. SARS attack HT part 2.. O0
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: akyatbundok on Jun 24, 2004 at 01:42 PM
ako din may kati sa HT hehe.... kaya usi din ako dito.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: iceman90a on Jun 24, 2004 at 01:46 PM
He he he - kaya di ko binitawan receiver eh... :)

babalik ka rin.... babalik karin.... ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Narayan on Jun 24, 2004 at 02:38 PM
babalik ka rin.... babalik karin.... ;D


akala ko nga talagang pure audio na daw ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Jun 24, 2004 at 02:52 PM


Try mo setting Center / small tapos Fronts/ Large and surround small.. levels Center +2 while Fronts/Surround 0.. as for sub.. 0 din..


I set the 440 as small surrounds and center...kasi am using mission bookshelves lang eh..may difference ba pag na-large ko to? am still tinkering on my DQ12...pero it sounded 50% better when I got an AVR.

alam nyo ngayun lang nagreklamo kapitbahay ko!! malakas daw bass ko..gumagapang sa roof nila...haha..syempre...nanuod ako ng "NEW ORDER LIVE" eh...haha! magtiis sila!!!!!!!!! ngahahaha


thanks for the inputs mga sir (audioslave special mention ka pa rin).....baka i-coax ko nalang yung input ng DVD since it carries digital signals din naman...kasi I want to attach my pioneer CD player to the toslink of the yammy...i dont like the "legato" sound of my player kasi and hoping to minimize that if I pass it to the preamp section of the yammy...

i'm setting my NAD for audio duty only on my cheapo tube set-up :)

BTW i got the silver model of the 440..bagay sa AV stand ko!..para na akong bakla ngayun..haha

ako din may kati sa HT hehe.... kaya usi din ako dito.  ;D


HT-HT-HT-HT-HT  O0
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: antukin on Jun 24, 2004 at 04:15 PM
di naman, may large and small speaker setting din yun. LFE frequency can be adjusted + or - 1 dB from its default setting of 100 dB so it can go to as low as 80 dB.

 ;D

sir audioslave, saan sa 440 itong ganitong setup? nakalagay kasi sa manual, fixed sa 90Hz ang xover e. yung LFE Level menu is -20dB - 0dB.  this is just the volume right?

salamats
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 24, 2004 at 04:21 PM
ako din may kati sa HT hehe.... kaya usi din ako dito.  ;D
.

Dahil sa iyoooooooooo... kati na HT din akoooooo.....








fish fish sir Akyat... pero sub muna kaya???
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: komodo on Jun 24, 2004 at 05:44 PM
Mga bro,

Patulong naman, I'm thinking of buying a yamaha receiver is it worth to go to 540,450 or the favorite 440. Please pakisagot naman ng mga GURU dyan.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 24, 2004 at 06:11 PM
komodo,

I'll go for the x50 series if budget permit... now lets say you plan to get the x40 series i suggest wait few months more coz when the new x50 series releases.. sure ako x40 series will be on sale.. now get the 640 or 540 at discounted na.. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: komodo on Jun 25, 2004 at 05:27 PM
Thank you hans & france siguro wait muna ako para lalong mas makatipid.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: john9one on Jul 08, 2004 at 10:00 AM
sir, what's the prevailing price of the 440? di pa ba bumababa considering lumabas na yung 450?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Jul 08, 2004 at 11:30 AM
Anyong using rx-v450 already? Any feedback or review?

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Jul 12, 2004 at 01:43 PM
sir, what's the prevailing price of the 440? di pa ba bumababa considering lumabas na yung 450?

I got mine last month for 13.7k at card price, it could go down as 13.5k on cash....duno kung bumaba na sya ngayun..HTH
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fandvd on Jul 15, 2004 at 01:09 AM
makasingit nga lang po...i bought rx-v450 pairing by POLKaudio R series & USaudio 512L...grabe ang lupet!..Superior home theater and music performance...rxv450 na drive nya ng maganda yung polk...tagumpay ako dito...mga bro until now i am in a series of break-in...kya laging puyat na unggoy na naka shade sa umaga...initial review for both...ngayon pa lang taas na kamay at paa ko dito. ;D

fandvd
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: classicman on Jul 15, 2004 at 09:28 AM
makasingit nga lang po...i bought rx-v450 pairing by POLKaudio R series & USaudio 512L...grabe ang lupet!..Superior home theater and music performance...rxv450 na drive nya ng maganda yung polk...tagumpay ako dito...mga bro until now i am in a series of break-in...kya laging puyat na unggoy na naka shade sa umaga...initial review for both...ngayon pa lang taas na kamay at paa ko dito. ;D

fandvd

bro,

saan nyo nabili ang rx-v450 nyo at magkano po, thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Jul 15, 2004 at 10:04 AM
makasingit nga lang po...i bought rx-v450 pairing by POLKaudio R series & USaudio 512L...grabe ang lupet!..Superior home theater and music performance...rxv450 na drive nya ng maganda yung polk...tagumpay ako dito...mga bro until now i am in a series of break-in...kya laging puyat na unggoy na naka shade sa umaga...initial review for both...ngayon pa lang taas na kamay at paa ko dito. ;D

fandvd

Congrats on your new setup. Magkano ang damage?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fandvd on Jul 16, 2004 at 12:10 AM


bro,

saan nyo nabili ang rx-v450 nyo at magkano po, thanks

Bro i bought my Rxv450 to Sir Sonny Tuazon of "The Home Theater" located at Legaspi Tower,Makati...bro its a best buy! ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fandvd on Jul 16, 2004 at 12:14 AM


Congrats on your new setup. Magkano ang damage?


Tnx man! ;D 52t lahat bro..kya eto nasa labas ako ng bahay at pinipilit na marinig yung setup ko...ayaw na kung papasukin ni esmi sa laki ng gastos O0
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Jul 16, 2004 at 07:04 AM
makasingit nga lang po...i bought rx-v450 pairing by POLKaudio R series & USaudio 512L...grabe ang lupet!..Superior home theater and music performance...rxv450 na drive nya ng maganda yung polk...tagumpay ako dito...mga bro until now i am in a series of break-in...kya laging puyat na unggoy na naka shade sa umaga...initial review for both...ngayon pa lang taas na kamay at paa ko dito. ;D

fandvd

nice speakers, i love the sounding of Polk Audio Speakers, pag dumadaan ako spectra lagi kong request na Audition y6ung display nya dun na Polk ehehehehe... kung may pera lang sana ako wahehehehehe
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mm2002 on Jul 16, 2004 at 08:48 AM
Sir magkano inabot yung yung receiver lang? Thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Jul 16, 2004 at 01:16 PM
Tnx man! ;D 52t lahat bro..kya eto nasa labas ako ng bahay at pinipilit na marinig yung setup ko...ayaw na kung papasukin ni esmi sa laki ng gastos O0

Pre, ang style dun eh mag demo ka agad ng mga pelikula at music na gusto nya. 

Nung bumili ako ng panibagong setup eh nasa Pinas sila tapos nag ready na ako ng mga materials ni esmi at nung baby ko kaya madaling na accept.  Yun nga lang eh ayaw na akong iwan mag-isa dito.





Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fandvd on Jul 16, 2004 at 10:03 PM
Sir magkano inabot yung yung receiver lang? Thanks

P17,500 for the rx-v450 bro,...best buy! :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fandvd on Jul 17, 2004 at 06:26 PM
mga guro patulong naman...

questions: wat is the right settings for rxv450?...is it same with 440?...

setting ko kse:
front: small +6db
center: small +7db
surr.L&R: small +9db
surr.back:large +10db
ROOM: small
Sub:reco naman pls ng magandang settings :)

im actually enjoying this new gear, most specially in polkAUDIO...kse HT panatic ako hindi sa music..before im using 430/wharfs...but now with the performance of polkA, parang im heading to a music listener....good pair sila and syempre with the hepl of usaudio 512L.

hope u mga gurus can help me using exact settings...tnx for your immediate reply ;D

fandvd
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: allvin_98 on Jul 19, 2004 at 03:36 PM


P17,500 for the rx-v450 bro,...best buy! :)

Sir tanong ko lang kung what store mo nabili  un YAMAHA RXV-450.thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 20, 2004 at 09:07 AM


Sir tanong ko lang kung what store mo nabili  un YAMAHA RXV-450.thanks

Kay Sonny Tuazon nya nabili sir.. The Home theater..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 20, 2004 at 09:13 AM
mga guro patulong naman...

questions: wat is the right settings for rxv450?...is it same with 440?...

setting ko kse:
front: small +6db
center: small +7db
surr.L&R: small +9db
surr.back:large +10db
ROOM: small
Sub:reco naman pls ng magandang settings :)

im actually enjoying this new gear, most specially in polkAUDIO...kse HT panatic ako hindi sa music..before im using 430/wharfs...but now with the performance of polkA, parang im heading to a music listener....good pair sila and syempre with the hepl of usaudio 512L.

hope u mga gurus can help me using exact settings...tnx for your immediate reply ;D

fandvd


front: Large 0
center: small +3db
surr.L&R: small + 0db
surr.back:small +2db
AVR : Crossover setting depend on your Fronts (bookshelf or Floorstander)
          Bookshelf set it 80 - 100 for Floorstand set it 40 - 60
Sub:Half way yun crossover 120 tapos volume level better adjust sa AVR

Try mo muna sir.. depend din yan sa room accoustics kung bagay..

Happy listening!!!

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: allvin_98 on Jul 20, 2004 at 09:57 AM


Kay Sonny Tuazon nya nabili sir.. The Home theater..

Sir question uli po san location po yung The Home Theater. Thank you uli.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fandvd on Jul 20, 2004 at 10:40 PM


front: Large 0
center: small +3db
surr.L&R: small + 0db
surr.back:small +2db
AVR : Crossover setting depend on your Fronts (bookshelf or Floorstander)
          Bookshelf set it 80 - 100 for Floorstand set it 40 - 60
Sub:Half way yun crossover 120 tapos volume level better adjust sa AVR

Try mo muna sir.. depend din yan sa room accoustics kung bagay..

Happy listening!!!




Sir salamat! :) il take that note as my future references...medyo im quite adjusting pa regardles sa audio, sanay kse ako sa old floor standers ko na talagang pang HT lang. anyway tnx a lot. :)

alvin_98
   bro sa may legaspi tower, makati ang location ng The Home Theater...madali syang makikita don.

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: classicman on Aug 11, 2004 at 09:33 AM
sa mga nakabili na ng rxv-450, musta performance ng mga units nyo, reviews naman pls......thanks in advance ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimosabe on Aug 11, 2004 at 09:50 AM
Oo nga review naman, may nabago ba sa tunog compare with 440? Thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wanderlust on Aug 17, 2004 at 04:25 PM
wla bang reviews dyan for the 450? am palnning to upgrade e.....
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Jason_10 on Aug 18, 2004 at 04:08 AM
hi! i just purchased the 450 (finally! )at ambassador appliances gh. i was about to get the 440 but this one has 2 optical inputs so....anyway am not familiar with it yet but the sales guy told me it has surround back...what's the difference anyway

here's my prob. i used the optical cable for my nextbase dvd, it sounds ok naman. but the problem is that on DD encoded dvd's theres no audio. what shoud i adjust,,,the dvd player or the avr? need help asap. cant sleep without resolving this,
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wanderlust on Aug 18, 2004 at 12:47 PM
cant sleep nga tlaga ah.... your post is timed at 4:08 am, d ka pa natutulog nyan ha!

i suggest you try to ticker with the avr first, read read read the manuals, have you not have the same prob before with your old avr?

had this problem before when watching vcds on muy dvd, and no sound output  is had, resolved the problem by selecting dvd analog on the mode selector.

try experimenting bro, and get soem sleep, youll think better and resolved the prob much faster if you have enough sleep. hehehe. hope i helped.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Jason_10 on Aug 18, 2004 at 01:28 PM
my previous amp was simpler. its a sakura av 377. it was much simpler then. anyway
yeah i got some sleep...thank god. i used another dvd...pioneer 512k. so far dd/dts was working na. but i wonder whats wrong with the next base. i cant find the manual, oh my. 

now ive another problem.i connected my ps2 via optical cable and and samsung 3 disc vcd changer. but the output of both is in black and white. last night it wasn't like this.

 the manual is still like hyrogliphics to me. hehe. a lay man's term would be greatly appreciated. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Chito C. on Aug 18, 2004 at 03:17 PM
Yamaha rxv-440 is sold at listening in style shangri-la mall at P13.5K , 6 mos. 0% interest. I almost bought a sakura 387 in raon last sunday (P3.5k) but backed out the last second. Now I don't know what to buy. Bushet!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wanderlust on Aug 18, 2004 at 04:29 PM
my previous amp was simpler. its a sakura av 377. it was much simpler then. anyway
yeah i got some sleep...thank god. i used another dvd...pioneer 512k. so far dd/dts was working na. but i wonder whats wrong with the next base. i cant find the manual, oh my. 

now ive another problem.i connected my ps2 via optical cable and and samsung 3 disc vcd changer. but the output of both is in black and white. last night it wasn't like this.

 the manual is still like hyrogliphics to me. hehe. a lay man's term would be greatly appreciated. 

sir, i have no personal knowledge as to ur yammy model, mines a little older. but i did experienced the black and white incident, and after much tinkering i found out that the solution is much to simple, try moving the cables, it might be that connection is a little bit loss of not that stable.

this happened already a couple of times and everytime the cause is always the cable connector. a little yanking lang sir, thats all it takes. ;D

well i guess its the player that has a problem.... hmmm maybe it is with regards to the setting in the dvd player. well anyway use the pioneer n lang its after a much better player than the sakura. ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wanderlust on Aug 18, 2004 at 04:37 PM
Yamaha rxv-440 is sold at listening in style shangri-la mall at P13.5K , 6 mos. 0% interest. I almost bought a sakura 387 in raon last sunday (P3.5k) but backed out the last second. Now I don't know what to buy. Bushet!

get the darn yamaha sir, specially if you have the budget for it, youll be in a much better field, all aspects ha than getting the sakura, i dont even think that much of there claim is true, hangang ac3 lang capability nyan, so youll not be able to get the benefit of having a dts encoded playback even a DD. sayang lang time and effort mo nyan sir. better yet get the 450.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Chito C. on Aug 19, 2004 at 10:05 AM
Mga peeps,

Pa check naman kung may problema speakers ko once I buy the yam 440 and what's the best setup. Once I sell my sony mini compo then I'll buy a set of daichi front, surrounds and subs. but for the time being eto muna gagamitin kong speakers.

1. Bose acoustimass - 2 cubes and 1 bass module compatible with receivers 10 to 100 watts per channel; rated 4 to 8 ohms
2. Daichi center speaker (1) - 4 to 8 ohms; 20 watts min 40 watts max
3. Sony mhc-vx77 speakers:
        Front (2)- 6 to 16 ohms 100 watts
        sorrounds (2)- 16 ohms no watts rating
4. Pioneer speakers - 4 ohms 25 watts

Thanks.
     
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Aug 19, 2004 at 10:24 AM
Dami speakers!! ;D 

As far as impedance matching is concerned, I think the yamaha can accept 6-8 ohm loads so either your Bose or Sony should not be a problem in the meantime.  Forget about the Pioneer's 4ohm and 25w rating.  Your center Dai-1chi speaker may not be timbre-matched with either.  And at 40W max, you may encounter problems at loud volumes.  Just manage the volume. 

There are actually other factors to consider such as sensitivity and dispersion characteristics for surround speakers.  In general, it's best to have all speakers with the same senstivity to make level matching a lot easier.  A narrow dispersion trait is prefered for HT front speakers, wide for center and dipoles/bipoles for the rear.  Usually speakers marketed as HT speakers that come as a set can simplify the job for HT.  Just some quick thoughts.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fierari on Aug 19, 2004 at 11:09 AM
Mga peeps,

Pa check naman kung may problema speakers ko once I buy the yam 440 and what's the best setup. Once I sell my sony mini compo then I'll buy a set of daichi front, surrounds and subs. but for the time being eto muna gagamitin kong speakers.

1. Bose acoustimass - 2 cubes and 1 bass module compatible with receivers 10 to 100 watts per channel; rated 4 to 8 ohms
2. Daichi center speaker (1) - 4 to 8 ohms; 20 watts min 40 watts max
3. Sony mhc-vx77 speakers:
        Front (2)- 6 to 16 ohms 100 watts
        sorrounds (2)- 16 ohms no watts rating
4. Pioneer speakers - 4 ohms 25 watts

Thanks.
     



ser mag yamaha ka na di ka mag sisisi...........

tsaka sabi nga nila timbre matching ng fronts at center kelangan same brand or lineup model. kaya bili ka na din ng fronts at cente mag wharf ka na. at sa huli mapapaisip ka na.......... nagka SARS ata ko ah hehehe


yung pang rear yung luma na lang gamitin mo ok na yun.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Chito C. on Aug 19, 2004 at 11:30 AM
dadahan dahanin ko si misis. yammy muna tapos yung iba naman. Baka makahalata magpabili ng alahas. At least daw yun investment mabebenta ulit.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wanderlust on Aug 19, 2004 at 12:42 PM
daming speakers of choice sir ah..... but i totally agree with sir av_phile on all points, and if in the future you decide to get a pair of new speakers, get a matching one for the fronts and center, as fierari suggested, and since you plan to slow things up, you can use ur olds as sorrounds pra d masyadong halata. ;)

btw sir, sabihin mo investment din eto, madali lang ibenta sa pdvd yang mga yan, wag ka lang umamin na kaya mo binebenta e my plano kang kumuha ng mas maganda! ahehehe, SARS tawag na dyan! ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fierari on Aug 19, 2004 at 12:55 PM
dadahan dahanin ko si misis. yammy muna tapos yung iba naman. Baka makahalata magpabili ng alahas. At least daw yun investment mabebenta ulit.


pre investment din naman ang speakers sabi nga ni ser wanderlust madaling ibenta dito yan heheheheh  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Chito C. on Aug 19, 2004 at 01:50 PM
have you tried looking at the harman kardon avr line up? hehehhe [/color

same price as yammy 440 and same specs, ano ba suggestion mo?

Balik tayo sa speakers ko ano ba masmaganda as front? bose o sony?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wanderlust on Aug 19, 2004 at 03:38 PM
ah... the HK, nasa yammy thread tayo sir kaya it should be the yammy.... but if nasa HK thread tayo, it wud be otherwise.

sir, try to measure the drivers, as i see that they have the same power ratings, both at 100 max, the logical move would be to use the bigger speaker for the fronts, or the one sporting the bigger driver.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Chito C. on Aug 19, 2004 at 04:37 PM
wala bang problem yung impedence ng sony speakers ko?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Bogsle on Aug 19, 2004 at 11:04 PM
Sir,

Just be mindful of the 4omhs speaker loads, madaling magiinit yung amp.

I use to own a 440, the speakers ko dati were JBL scs178 set, 4ohms lahat. Tinatapatan ko ng fan specially for lengthy movies. I never watch more than one movie at a time coz I make sure may time to cool down yung receiver. Although may auto-shutoff ang yammy when overheating, but I take good care not to reach this point. Para lang alaga sa gamit dahil gusto ko pa to tumagal. Frendly advice lang naman po.

bogsle


Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: audi0slave on Aug 19, 2004 at 11:08 PM
bogs, tagal ko nang di nagagamit yung 440 ah... pag naulol ka talaga sa audio, nakakawalang gana nang makinig sa receiver no?  >:D 8)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Chito C. on Aug 23, 2004 at 12:35 PM
Just bought my yammy 440 last  saturday and connected the coax cable to my nextbase 9000 slim dvd player. No sound come out. Tried the left and right channel analog connections, no problem. Any suggestions from nexbase slim owners?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Aug 23, 2004 at 02:18 PM
If I got you right, it seems you haven't activated your DVD player to output in digital S/PDIF mode.  Analog stereo output is always the default. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Chito C. on Aug 23, 2004 at 03:09 PM
Thanks a lot. I'll try it tonight.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fierari on Aug 23, 2004 at 05:30 PM
spdif settings nga saka nga pala yung coax naka select yan sa cd ng 440 ndi sa dvd player factory settings e.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: lazeeb0y on Aug 23, 2004 at 09:31 PM
hi guys. i have an rx-v430. just wondering if it's safe to plug my DQ12 sub on my receiver's ac outlets located at the back. it would be more convenient for me if this was possible coz i wouldn't have to keep on switching on & off the sub when i watch my movies. it would then automatically switch on/off whenever i use my receiver.

hope you guys can help. thanks.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on Aug 23, 2004 at 09:56 PM
hi guys. i have an rx-v430. just wondering if it's safe to plug my DQ12 sub on my receiver's ac outlets located at the back. it would be more convenient for me if this was possible coz i wouldn't have to keep on switching on & off the sub when i watch my movies. it would then automatically switch on/off whenever i use my receiver.

hope you guys can help. thanks.  :)

This is not recommended specially for high power components. Try to check the maximum power in watts that your receiver can handle. Say 100 watts switched teh check the DQ poer consumption, see if its within the specified range.

Just to inform you, if I am not mistaken, DQ12 has auto-off mode. It will turn-off after about 15 minutes of no detected signal.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Bogsle on Aug 23, 2004 at 10:01 PM
bogs, tagal ko nang di nagagamit yung 440 ah... pag naulol ka talaga sa audio, nakakawalang gana nang makinig sa receiver no?  >:D 8)


Hehehe, tama ka. Di ko na nga nagagamit yung RXV1400 ko eh. Pasimuno ka kasi eh.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: lazeeb0y on Aug 23, 2004 at 11:04 PM


This is not recommended specially for high power components. Try to check the maximum power in watts that your receiver can handle. Say 100 watts switched teh check the DQ poer consumption, see if its within the specified range.

Just to inform you, if I am not mistaken, DQ12 has auto-off mode. It will turn-off after about 15 minutes of no detected signal.

hmmm... just read my sub's specs. power requirement is 230V/50Hz; 300W max. if that's the case, then i guess it should just remain plugged in to a separate outlet.

i knew already about the auto-off mode but i was still curious if there was another way to completely switch on/off the sub w/o reaching behind for the power switch. oh well...

thanks for the advice.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wanderlust on Aug 24, 2004 at 05:21 PM
lazzeeboy, stick with the seperates, i to own a dq12 and a yammy, and i dont think it can handle the power demands of the dq so i advise against it. yes, i share your predicament also with power button at the back....  but its better to be safe than sorry.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Chito C. on Aug 30, 2004 at 09:52 AM
Already posted it in the nextbase thread but maybe one of you guys knows the manufacturer code of nextbase dvd player. I need so I can just use my yamaha remote for my tv, dvd player, vhs player amd receiver. Already got the manufacturer code of the others, don't have the nextbase dvd player.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: KEN on Aug 30, 2004 at 05:54 PM
Tanong mga bosing yung bang mga bago na Yamaha receiver ay may grounding na yung power cord ? My old RXV800 kasi wala and I'm wondering kung  paano ko i connect ito sa ground? or Ok lang ba  na wala kasi yung amps na kinabit ko sa preout nya needs proper grounding and the same case  with my CDP at read from somewhere from internet na mas ok yata pag balance/grounded yung system...

TIA
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Aug 31, 2004 at 10:33 AM



Hehehe, tama ka. Di ko na nga nagagamit yung RXV1400 ko eh. Pasimuno ka kasi eh.  ;D

Baka gusto mong ibenta? Hehehe.  ;D

Bro Lazee,

I say DON"T!!!!, I also have a 430, the outlet at the back is rated at 100 Watts max, and I also have a DQ12, the max power consumption of this is surely way above 100W. So, DON'T!!! ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: lazeeb0y on Aug 31, 2004 at 08:56 PM
thanks for the advice guys. the DQ12 remains plugged into a separate outlet. naka-plug na lang sa likod ng RX-V430 ko ay LD Player and Cassette Deck.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Chito C. on Sep 07, 2004 at 09:48 AM
Problem,

When I play almost all dvds and the radio, I don't have a problem with the sound. Buong buo tunog but when I play my audio cd's (using nextbase dvd player) parang sira yung  mga speakers ko. Also, some dvd's I play like the looney tunes collection ang sama ng tunog parang puro echo lang.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Sep 07, 2004 at 11:04 AM
chito c
baka namna nasa disc?
have you play other dvds?
read your manual, baka naman may mali.

up to now kasi minsan mali  ang mga settings ko, eh almost 1 year na sa akin ang 440 ko.
the manual is your friend. he..he

also sa mga nagtatanong, pwede i assign ang coax sa DVD, check your manuals nasa page 41 yata.
not sure sa page basta yung assign i/o

grabe akala ko malalaos na ang 440 by this time, rock soild pa rin pala.
oist yung mga nag audio kating kati na ba mag HT ulit he..he j/k

don senor kimpao kamusta na?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: antukin on Sep 07, 2004 at 08:40 PM
question lang po, mga yammy owners. i just acquired my very 1st dtsES6.1 dvd (blade 2), c/o gatas here.  gusto ko lang po malaman kung magagamit ko ba yung discrete rear center channel signal kung wala akong rear center speaker? nakalagay kasi sa manual, ididistribute ng 440 yung rearcentersignal sa surrounds. tapos may isang part din sa manual, na hindi magagamit yung discrete rear center kung walang rearcenter speaker?

salamats
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: obey on Sep 07, 2004 at 09:00 PM
Chito C.,

Try mo i-off yung DSP or soundfield/field ng DVD player mo.  Alam ko may control ito sa remote.  Baka kaya puro echo ang naririnig mo. 

It may also be possible that you are using a particular DSP mode of the receiver.  When listening to audio cds, it is better to just use plain 2-channel stereo or prologic 2.  Also, some DVDs are better off with just Dolby Digital "Normal" or DTS "Normal".  Setting the receiver's DSP in enhanced mode or using other DSP programs sometimes just distort the diaglogue coming out of the center channel by adding unnecessary reverb/echo.   
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: vvt-i on Sep 07, 2004 at 09:01 PM
question lang po, mga yammy owners. i just acquired my very 1st dtsES6.1 dvd (blade 2), c/o gatas here.  gusto ko lang po malaman kung magagamit ko ba yung discrete rear center channel signal kung wala akong rear center speaker? nakalagay kasi sa manual, ididistribute ng 440 yung rearcentersignal sa surrounds. tapos may isang part din sa manual, na hindi magagamit yung discrete rear center kung walang rearcenter speaker?

salamats

antukin,

sa pagkakaalam ko since you dont have a rear center speaker, matrix 6.1 ang labas nyan...meaning the signal for the rear center will be distributed to the rear left and right channels.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Aston Martin on Sep 20, 2004 at 02:17 PM
mga bosing, im panning to buy a RX-V450(?) soon. ano po ba ang pinaka bagay na speakers?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Sep 20, 2004 at 02:19 PM
mga bosing, im panning to buy a RX-V450(?) soon. ano po ba ang pinaka bagay na speakers?


Wharfedale diamonds are a good choice for these receivers.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: john9one on Sep 20, 2004 at 05:14 PM
mga bosing, im panning to buy a RX-V450(?) soon. ano po ba ang pinaka bagay na speakers?


if on a budget, dtx towers, front and bookshelves with a dtx 4.12 sub will do.
will just cost you about 15k.
for a newbie like me, this set up rocks!  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: cardo on Sep 21, 2004 at 09:48 AM
hey guys,

how do you feel about the RX-V750 vs HK 330? Which gets your vote n why?

thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: zakkaz on Sep 21, 2004 at 11:07 AM
hey guys,

how do you feel about the RX-V750 vs HK 330? Which gets your vote n why?

thanks!
HK330 cause it is designed high current and of its triple crossover
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Jason_10 on Sep 21, 2004 at 11:35 AM
ive an rxv-450 amp. i noticed that whenever i turn on the lights in my room, the sound from the amp is affected....power fluctuations? would an AVR (auto voltage reg) solve this?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Sep 21, 2004 at 11:57 AM
Yup, I think a voltage regulator would help.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wanderlust on Sep 21, 2004 at 01:25 PM
line conditioners sirs and surge suppresors..... anything with this features would do, i have this panther external cord connector with this feature.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Sep 21, 2004 at 01:30 PM
ive an rxv-450 amp. i noticed that whenever i turn on the lights in my room, the sound from the amp is affected....power fluctuations? would an AVR (auto voltage reg) solve this?

use those heavy duty ones not the so called "GaHap"(GAwa umaga sira HAPon) avrs or surge protectors.   ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jeckjeck on Sep 22, 2004 at 09:58 PM
Hello HT gods. Kakabili ko lang ng RXV530 from Listening in Style c/o JR the other day. Sale kasi eh!
My question is, bagay ba ang MS Avant Premier Series Speakers dito? Also, i passed by 5th Ave and they were offering me this new brand of speakers they have - Gale 30 series. Any news on this one? According to the guys there, MS din daw ang gumamagawa.

Would appreciate any feedback on these. I am setting up an HT and just want to be sure tama ang decisions ko.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: zakkaz on Sep 23, 2004 at 10:58 AM
Hello HT gods. Kakabili ko lang ng RXV530 from Listening in Style c/o JR the other day. Sale kasi eh!
My question is, bagay ba ang MS Avant Premier Series Speakers dito? Also, i passed by 5th Ave and they were offering me this new brand of speakers they have - Gale 30 series. Any news on this one? According to the guys there, MS din daw ang gumamagawa.

Would appreciate any feedback on these. I am setting up an HT and just want to be sure tama ang decisions ko.
sayang naman 530 pa ang kinuha mo
may mga new models na lumabas like 350, 450, 650
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Narayan on Sep 23, 2004 at 11:11 AM
Hello HT gods. Kakabili ko lang ng RXV530 from Listening in Style c/o JR the other day. Sale kasi eh!
My question is, bagay ba ang MS Avant Premier Series Speakers dito? Also, i passed by 5th Ave and they were offering me this new brand of speakers they have - Gale 30 series. Any news on this one? According to the guys there, MS din daw ang gumamagawa.

Would appreciate any feedback on these. I am setting up an HT and just want to be sure tama ang decisions ko.

suggest you bring over your newly bought receiver sa 5th ave and have an audition if you like what you hear...imho, gale speakers are good value for the money :D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jeckjeck on Sep 23, 2004 at 06:45 PM

sayang naman 530 pa ang kinuha mo
may mga new models na lumabas like 350, 450, 650

 :'( Ngek! Humihingi kasi ako ng opinion from the guys there and they said wala daw difference sa performance... I was actually choosing between the 530 and a 440 eh mas okay daw yung 530.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jeckjeck on Sep 23, 2004 at 06:51 PM


suggest you bring over your newly bought receiver sa 5th ave and have an audition if you like what you hear...imho, gale speakers are good value for the money :D

 ;DGood idea! Thank you sir. The Gale speakers actually look very nice. Ang ganda ng vinyl beech finish especially the floor standers... but speakers are for hearing and not just seeing.

Thanks again.  :D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Jason_10 on Sep 23, 2004 at 07:25 PM
thanks sa mga replies. btw ilang watts ang recommended na automatic voltage regulator?  i dont have the budget yet for line conditioners.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Sep 24, 2004 at 09:50 AM
Bro Jason,
I'd recommend getting an avr with a capacity of at least twice the power consumption of your amp. I'd say around 750Watts. Or better yet, go 1000W.

Bro Jeck,
The 440 is a 6 channel amp, while the 530 is just a 5 channel amp. The 440 is dolby ex and dts es, the 530 ain't. Although, the 530 has higher power, but it's a small difference. Of course he told you there was no difference since he wanted to get rid of that old stock, the 440 is an easy sell. Sana nagtanong ka muna rito bago ka bumili, hehehe. Anyway, you have a good amp naman e.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Chito C. on Sep 24, 2004 at 10:26 AM
Ganun din nangyari sakin nung bumuli ako ng 440. Yung 530 ang una nilang binebenta.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: nesty on Sep 24, 2004 at 10:53 AM
ive an rxv-450 amp. i noticed that whenever i turn on the lights in my room, the sound from the amp is affected....power fluctuations? would an AVR (auto voltage reg) solve this?

Jason,

It should not be the case. The powersupply of the AVR must not be affected by turning on the lights.
I know because I work in an R&D electronics company that deals with this. This is what you call a flicker test.
Dapat di siya maapektuhan ng flickering. This is very technical if I dwell into it pero considering it's Yamaha we should not expect this to happen. Kung mga generic AVR maiintindihan ko yun but for Yamaha ???

I think you should double check this with Yamaha kasi kalalabas lang ng 450 baka proto units pa lang yung nasa Pinas. I have an AVR but not this brand and it is not affected by it. :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Aston Martin on Sep 24, 2004 at 02:23 PM
mga bosing, tnx dun sa mga sumagot sa tanong ko earlier. I got the rx-v440 instead....now another newbie Q lang po........

dapat po ba powered/amplified ung SW na kakabit sa 440? Kasi po yung lumang Sony speakers ko e may built in sub na, pwede bang yun na lang gagamitin ko? :-[

help pls.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Sep 24, 2004 at 03:12 PM
Bro Aston,

You've already got a good amp, pareho tayo. Besides konti lang naman ang difference ng 450 sa 440. Anyway, to answer your question, you need a powered sub since the sub out of the 440 is a line level output. It cannot drive your sub. HIH. ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Aston Martin on Sep 24, 2004 at 05:10 PM
sir arthur, tnx for the info. ano speakers gamit mo?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jeckjeck on Sep 24, 2004 at 08:54 PM

Bro Jeck,
The 440 is a 6 channel amp, while the 530 is just a 5 channel amp. The 440 is dolby ex and dts es, the 530 ain't. Although, the 530 has higher power, but it's a small difference. Of course he told you there was no difference since he wanted to get rid of that old stock, the 440 is an easy sell. Sana nagtanong ka muna rito bago ka bumili, hehehe. Anyway, you have a good amp naman e.


Aaaarggghhh!! Ilang beses ko sya tiananong puro pareho lang ang sagot!! Although sinabi naman nya na Awarded yung 440. Akala ko honest kasi ang pinupush nya yung lower priced model. A typical salesman kasi would push you to buy the more expensive one. Tsk tsk... highly recommeded pa naman yung Listening in Style.

Sana bumagay na lang sa bagong luma ko na MS Avant Premiere Series c/o be976.
Thanks arnel!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Sep 25, 2004 at 09:17 AM
sir arthur, tnx for the info. ano speakers gamit mo?

I'm using the DTX 9.5 system for my 440, towers, bookshelfs, and center, then a USAudio 512MKII. Although the 512 is very powerful (it makes the roof of our attic, na located sa 3rd level ng bahay, shake). It seems inaccurate sounding for me because it produces a very resonant 50Hz signal because of the enclosure design. So i'm actually planning to buy a DTX 4.15 sub very soon and pair it with the 512 para mas masaya since dalawang subs na. I also have a DQ12 and an ASW10DR but I use them in my room sa taas.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Sep 25, 2004 at 09:25 AM


Aaaarggghhh!! Ilang beses ko sya tiananong puro pareho lang ang sagot!! Although sinabi naman nya na Awarded yung 440. Akala ko honest kasi ang pinupush nya yung lower priced model. A typical salesman kasi would push you to buy the more expensive one. Tsk tsk... highly recommeded pa naman yung Listening in Style.

Sana bumagay na lang sa bagong luma ko na MS Avant Premiere Series c/o be976.
Thanks arnel!

Yeah, Aaaaargghh!! is the word 'dejour'. And yes, the 440 was awarded by the 2003/2004 EISA awards. Hehehe, this is like putting salt in the wound. But you've got a good amp din naman e. I've had my 430 for over two years and parang bagong kasal pa rin kami. Di nagkakasawaan. But divorced na kami ngayon since I'm remarried to my 440. Benta mo kaya? hehehe, at bumili ng 440? hehehe SARS! SARS! SARS! SARS! Hahaha. Take care, bro.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Chito C. on Sep 25, 2004 at 09:41 AM





Aaaarggghhh!! Ilang beses ko sya tiananong puro pareho lang ang sagot!! Although sinabi naman nya na Awarded yung 440. Akala ko honest kasi ang pinupush nya yung lower priced model. A typical salesman kasi would push you to buy the more expensive one. Tsk tsk... highly recommeded pa naman yung Listening in Style.

Sana bumagay na lang sa bagong luma ko na MS Avant Premiere Series c/o be976.
Thanks arnel!


Baka pwede i swap sa 440. Tanong mo.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Sep 25, 2004 at 10:06 AM
Now that I think of it, tama si bro Chito, I think you have all the right na palitan yan dun. You bought the unit kasi under false pretenses so pwede ka talagang magreklamo, and I'm sure ang management ng store will have to oblige. Pwede silang masira dyan e. Kelan mo ba binili? If I were in your situation, that's what I'd do. Para maturuan din ng leksyon yang mga nagsisinungaling na mga salesman. Good luck, bro.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: antukin on Sep 26, 2004 at 11:21 AM
mga sir, magkano score nyo sa 530 and 440 sale? yung kaibigan ko kasi naghahanap e. salamats
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: zakkaz on Sep 26, 2004 at 01:23 PM
mga sir, magkano score nyo sa 530 and 440 sale? yung kaibigan ko kasi naghahanap e. salamats
try getting the new models
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Chito C. on Sep 27, 2004 at 10:02 AM
440 - 13.5K 6 mos. installment 0% interest
530 - less than 13k ata 6 mos. installment 0% interest
listening in style shangrila mall
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Sep 27, 2004 at 11:10 AM
Got my 440 from Audioworld at 13.5K. The 450 would also be a great choice, I got an offer of about 16.5K for it.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Chito C. on Sep 27, 2004 at 04:32 PM
Any comments on the night mode of yammy 440? Everytime I turn it on parang the same lang yung tunog.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jeckjeck on Sep 27, 2004 at 06:32 PM
Now that I think of it, tama si bro Chito, I think you have all the right na palitan yan dun. You bought the unit kasi under false pretenses so pwede ka talagang magreklamo, and I'm sure ang management ng store will have to oblige. Pwede silang masira dyan e. Kelan mo ba binili? If I were in your situation, that's what I'd do. Para maturuan din ng leksyon yang mga nagsisinungaling na mga salesman. Good luck, bro.

 ;D

Thanks for the advice. Last week ko lang nabili, Tuesday ata. Di ko na papalitan siguro. Masaya na naman ako sa output. Hassle pa yun at makikipagaway pa ko 'dun. Naka installment pa 'to sa card ko kaya marami pang hassle na dadaanan.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dyames on Sep 28, 2004 at 03:12 PM
Check out b&w speakers 300 series, we were in an exhibit in binondo, toyama guys had a display there. That's where i heard it, malaki yung lugar pero kaya ng b&w to think that the salesman said it was just the entry level. I also tried the onkyo good for it's price. They have a showroom in greenhills.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Sep 28, 2004 at 04:11 PM
Aaaarggghhh!! Ilang beses ko sya tiananong puro pareho lang ang sagot!! Although sinabi naman nya na Awarded yung 440. Akala ko honest kasi ang pinupush nya yung lower priced model. A typical salesman kasi would push you to buy the more expensive one. Tsk tsk... highly recommeded pa naman yung Listening in Style.

Magkano score mo sa 530?  kung malaki naman ang price difference sa 440 eh oks lang.

Sana bumagay na lang sa bagong luma ko na MS Avant Premiere Series c/o be976.
Thanks arnel!

So ikaw pala ang nakabili.  OKs yang MS Premiere with Marantz amp if you prefer music than movies.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jeckjeck on Sep 28, 2004 at 06:48 PM

Magkano score mo sa 530?  kung malaki naman ang price difference sa 440 eh oks lang.

So ikaw pala ang nakabili.  OKs yang MS Premiere with Marantz amp if you prefer music than movies.


Yun nga eh. 1K++ lang ata ang difference.

Let me give everyone an account of my experience as a heads up:

I went there intending to buy a receiver. I already checked out the RXV530 the day before so i was really planning on buying it but the person I spoke to before was out so another person assisted me. I told him that I wanted to get the RXV530 but if he had anything else with in my budget which was 15K. He showed me the RXV440. The 530 was 12K+ while the 440 was 13K+. I asked him which was better, he said that the 530 was better. He did say that 440 was awarded. I asked him why it was better and he started spitting out some technical jargon about wattage, channels, decibels, etc... He said that the 530 was newer and was a better buy than the 440. So, I trusted him and decided on the 530. I told him then that i would charge a portion of it to my credit card & cash out about 3K.

Here's the 1st issue: the lady cashier then told me that since i was paying via card, they would have to add 6% to the amount being charged. I thought okay lang since I was already decided on buying it.  While i was at the cashier though, I saw a flyer of promotional items they had. It showed that the 530 could be charged at 0% in 6 installments!! So I asked the cashier about it. She looked at the flyer as if seeing it for the first time. She had to ask a colleague kung pwede pa raw. Of course, pwede pa! The flyer had dates on it! I asked the sales guy why they did not mention the promo to me but i did not get an answer. Anyway, they processed my purchase and the cashier swiped my card for the installment plan. They could still accept my payment of 3K and charge the remaining balance via the 6 month installment.

Here's the 2nd issue: The cashier then told me that declined yung transaction. I asked her what the decline reason was but the lady just tossed the card onto the counter then walked away. DAMN!  >:( The sales guy saw this and probably felt awkward. He immediately asked a more senior looking lady cashier to assist me. The older lady was kind enough to dial up Citibank customer service for me. From them I found out that the first cashier had inputted the full amount of 12K+ instead of the 9K+ remaining. That was the exact reason why I was paying 3K in cash because I knew what my available limit was (about 11K+)! I informed the older lady cashier of this and she tried the transaction again which of course was approved! All the while, the younger cashier was no where in sight and the older cashier kept asking the sales guy where she was. Apparently she just walked out the store after tossing my card.

And of course the 3rd issue I have now is I was talked into buying an older model actually and not a newer one than the 440 plus there is a big difference in the performance of the 2.

I just hope the owner or one of the managers of Listening In Style Shang read this or hear about this so that they can keep a closer watch of their employees.

To others, make sure you do thorough research before buying something. DO NOT TAKE THE WORD OF A SALES PERSON AT THE STORE.


Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Chito C. on Sep 28, 2004 at 08:13 PM
I-angal mo pre! Ako naman I didn't have a problem with them when i bought the 440.  Meron silang thread sa Audio Video stores dun mo nalang i post ( attention meridian-audio) at least para malaman nya na may dissatisfied customer sila.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jeckjeck on Sep 28, 2004 at 09:58 PM
I-angal mo pre! Ako naman I didn't have a problem with them when i bought the 440.  Meron silang thread sa Audio Video stores dun mo nalang i post ( attention meridian-audio) at least para malaman nya na may dissatisfied customer sila.

Is meridian-audio the owner? Manager? PM ko na lang kaya?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Chito C. on Sep 29, 2004 at 09:48 AM
posted your comments in the listening in style group thread.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Sep 29, 2004 at 10:46 AM
To others, make sure you do thorough research before buying something. DO NOT TAKE THE WORD OF A SALES PERSON AT THE STORE.

Maybe the lack of expertise nga nung mga salesperson nung shop. Baka akala nila na mas higher yung model number eh mas latest.  So better to check in Pinoydvd first before buying any electronics.

BTW. Kausapin mo yung may ari nung shop,  cguro naman eh pwede pa yan pakiusapan dahil mali naman yung tauhan nya.  Sayang kasi dahil di hamak na maganda ang performance nung 440 sa 530. Atsaka mas mataas ang resale value dahil mas bagong model.


 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Aston Martin on Sep 29, 2004 at 11:03 AM
Mga bossing, its me again.

I'm really looking for a set of speakers to pair with my RX-V440. Since medyo may kaliitan yung area ko (mga 10 sq.m), I am thinking of buying the Wharfedale Moviestar 60+ System.

My greatest worry though is that yung speaker impedance nya is 4ohms. Hindi kaya mahirapan yung 440? Ano comment nyo sa Moviestar 60+?

help naman (again) please :-\
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Sep 29, 2004 at 11:20 AM
Mga bossing, its me again.

I'm really looking for a set of speakers to pair with my RX-V440. Since medyo may kaliitan yung area ko (mga 10 sq.m), I am thinking of buying the Wharfedale Moviestar 60+ System.

My greatest worry though is that yung speaker impedance nya is 4ohms. Hindi kaya mahirapan yung 440? Ano comment nyo sa Moviestar 60+?

help naman (again) please :-\

Magkano ang price?  Ganda yung performance nun when we tested it with Onkyo SR501.  Yun nga lang eh may risk dahil 4ohms nga lang sya, di pwedeng sobrang lakas ng volume. 

Pero, da best pa rin ang Mission speakers with yamaha.

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Aston Martin on Sep 29, 2004 at 11:44 AM
sir yung price alam ko is below 10K.....but yan nga ang problem ko, yung 4-ohm impedance nya.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Sep 29, 2004 at 11:48 AM
Mga bossing, its me again.

I'm really looking for a set of speakers to pair with my RX-V440. Since medyo may kaliitan yung area ko (mga 10 sq.m), I am thinking of buying the Wharfedale Moviestar 60+ System.

My greatest worry though is that yung speaker impedance nya is 4ohms. Hindi kaya mahirapan yung 440? Ano comment nyo sa Moviestar 60+?

help naman (again) please :-\

If budget permits, go for the following since most members here, i do believe, got this combi : wharfdale diamond 8.3 fronts, 8.1 surrounds, diamond center and dq12 subs.  Its a 10 sqm room so this would be sufficient enough to make your neighbors complain.  both if you're really in a tight budget, then why not go for the dtx speakers.  i've been hearing a lot of satisfied users of these speakers using yammies.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Aston Martin on Sep 29, 2004 at 12:03 PM
sir kimpao, parang hindi kaya sa 3.16m x 3.16m na room yang mga speakers na yan eh. kaya sana yung moviestar ang ni consider ko dahil maliliit lang yung speakers nya.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: zakkaz on Sep 29, 2004 at 12:29 PM
if not go for the 8.1, 8C, WH2 n dq12 sub
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Sep 29, 2004 at 01:18 PM
Or you can zakkaz's suggestion since you might have space constraints in your room but for price considerations, if you get the 8.1 for fronts, you still need speaker stands which you'll somehow end up with the price of an 8.3. say 8.1 @ 4.5k to 5k + stands @ 2.5 to 3k = say about 7 to 8 k which is somehow the price of an 8.3.  But again, at the end of the day,  its still you're choice, diba? :D :D I myself use an rxv-630 and wharf combi placed in a 9.9 sqm room , not too big not too small, more than enough to get me into trouble with my neighbors (thrice na nangyari ahehehehehehe).  ;D ;D ;D . I use wharf cr-40 floorstanders as fronts, crystal center, crystal 10 and a dq12, here's a link to my ht setup for your reference (simple lang sir as i'm more into audio kasi, ok na sa akin yung entry level sa ht  :) yung sa audio medyo drastic at marami rami na ang nagbago since may of this year  ;D )  Ok din performance sir sa ht plus its much cheaper than the diamond 8 series.  :) :) 

http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=1788.msg340272#msg340272
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Chito C. on Sep 29, 2004 at 04:16 PM
Sir kimpao,

Baka magka SARS ka pag dumating na yung diamond 9 eh bilhin ko nalang yung cr-40 mo. set up ko kasi wh2 center and surrounds tapos bose accoustimass 3 yung pang fronts ko. Gusto ko warfs lahat.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Chito C. on Sep 29, 2004 at 04:19 PM
Any comments on the night mode of yammy 440? Everytime I turn it on parang the same lang yung tunog.


Bka mya suggestions lang kayo.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Sep 29, 2004 at 04:55 PM
Sir kimpao,

Baka magka SARS ka pag dumating na yung diamond 9 eh bilhin ko nalang yung cr-40 mo. set up ko kasi wh2 center and surrounds tapos bose accoustimass 3 yung pang fronts ko. Gusto ko warfs lahat.

sir, hindi ka nagkakamali.  ;D ;D  i've been planning this for the past couple of weeks na, timing lang sir dahil baka mga december or january 2005 pa yung 9 series.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Sep 29, 2004 at 04:59 PM
jeckjeck,
pare try to contact meridian audio sa experience mo,
13K is still 13K kahit entry level ang binili mo still its your hard earn money.

yan ang hirap sa mga ibang shops they tend to snicker you out kapag cheapipay ang binibili mo,
dyan din ako bumili ng Yamaha TSS-1, if it just im wasting their time since 9K lang ang binibili ko.

and if kung ayaw mo na talaga ng gulo, ok din naman ang 530, the rear center nga lang ang difference
pero konti lang naman ang DTS-ES na DVD, saka yung matrixed is really just the same rear L/R.

good luck and balitaan mo kami.

Aston Martin
DTX swak diyan pare.
ako sa isang satisfied user na binanggit ni sir kimpao
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jeckjeck on Sep 29, 2004 at 07:15 PM
jeckjeck,
pare try to contact meridian audio sa experience mo,
13K is still 13K kahit entry level ang binili mo still its your hard earn money.

yan ang hirap sa mga ibang shops they tend to snicker you out kapag cheapipay ang binibili mo,
dyan din ako bumili ng Yamaha TSS-1, if it just im wasting their time since 9K lang ang binibili ko.

and if kung ayaw mo na talaga ng gulo, ok din naman ang 530, the rear center nga lang ang difference
pero konti lang naman ang DTS-ES na DVD, saka yung matrixed is really just the same rear L/R.

good luck and balitaan mo kami.

Aston Martin
DTX swak diyan pare.
ako sa isang satisfied user na binanggit ni sir kimpao

Thank you kimpOy and Chito C.. I read the post of Chito C. Listening in Style thread. Hopefully mabasa rin nya.

Oo nga eh. May isa kasi akong nakasabay na babae na mukhang mayaman na tumitingin ng mga flat panel tvs nila kaya attention nilang lahat andun sa babae. That was exactly how I felt -- like i was wasting their time with my 12K purchase! Teka, lalo atang umiinit ulo ko.

Nasa Video Take Out nga ako sa PowerPlant kanina. Magmemeber sana ako but the guy there mentioned na the onwer of their shop was the same guy who owned Listening in Style. Sabi ko di na bale. Although, in fairness to the Video Take Out guy, medyo maasikaso sya pero uminit lang ulo ko when I heard him say "LISTENING IN STYLE SA SHANGRI-LA MALL."

I'll probably send a PM to Meridian-Audio. Thanks again guys.

 O0
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Sep 30, 2004 at 10:32 AM


sir, hindi ka nagkakamali.  ;D ;D  i've been planning this for the past couple of weeks na, timing lang sir dahil baka mga december or january 2005 pa yung 9 series.

Sir, please also consider me as one very interested buyer. Thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Control on Sep 30, 2004 at 02:22 PM
Mga Tsong, what do you think is much better? Why?

RX-V640 or RX-V440
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Sep 30, 2004 at 02:50 PM
Mga Tsong, what do you think is much better? Why?
RX-V640 or RX-V440

You can see the comparison here for x40series:
http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/compare/recvr_16.htm

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Sep 30, 2004 at 03:04 PM
Mga Tsong, what do you think is much better? Why?

RX-V640 or RX-V440


If I have the money, the 640, but the 440 was awarded by EISA, di ba? So, I'd say, sa price and performance ratio, 440 pa rin. But the 640 is, of course, more powerful and is an improvement of the 630 which also received an EISA award. I don't think I helped that much. hehehe. ;D ???
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Aston Martin on Sep 30, 2004 at 03:05 PM
tnx again mga bosing. saan ba makakapag audition ng DTX speakers?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Sep 30, 2004 at 03:11 PM
tnx again mga bosing. saan ba makakapag audition ng DTX speakers?

Sa Daiichi showroom sa Raon.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Aston Martin on Sep 30, 2004 at 05:05 PM
sir arthur,

sori ha d ako familiar sa raon e. bk pwde share mo yung directions.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Sep 30, 2004 at 05:55 PM
Mga Tsong, what do you think is much better? Why?

RX-V640 or RX-V440

Magkano ang price difference dyan?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Sep 30, 2004 at 06:59 PM
.......Aaaarggghhh!! Ilang beses ko sya tiananong puro pareho lang ang sagot!! Although sinabi naman nya na Awarded yung 440. Akala ko honest kasi ang pinupush nya yung lower priced model. A typical salesman kasi would push you to buy the more expensive one. Tsk tsk... highly recommeded pa naman yung Listening in Style.....

Try mo lang baka pwede pa i-swap?  Ganyan din ksi experience ko this week lang.  Ganito 'yon... last Friday bumili ako sa Ambassador Grinhills ng Yammy 450.  Pag-uwi ko sa bahay sinet-up ko agad to replace my 1-year old Konzert AV500 receiver.  Nag-party pa kami nung Saturday just to break-in my new receiver... dun ko napansin na parang "bitin" kasi 85wrms lang at wala pang S-video input.  Since that day di nako mapakali, di na makatulog, "sayang bat di pa yung 550 ang binili ko"!  So kahapon tinawagan ko yung Ambassador para i-ask kung pwede ko i-upgrade my 450 to 550.  Laking gulat ko kasi pumayag, basta day no gasgas at ibalik ko sa orig na packaging at i-settle ko price difference ng 550 at 450 (P4,000).  Kaya kahapon din dinala ko agad ung 450 sa Ambassador at presto! they gave me a new 550!  Kagabi lang ako nakatulog uli ng mahimbing...

Ü
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Control on Sep 30, 2004 at 07:20 PM


If I have the money, the 640, but the 440 was awarded by EISA, di ba? So, I'd say, sa price and performance ratio, 440 pa rin. But the 640 is, of course, more powerful and is an improvement of the 630 which also received an EISA award. I don't think I helped that much. hehehe. ;D ???

hehe...yun nga rin ang nagpapagulo sa isip ko eh.. ;D And yung price gap...kasi almost 10k din ang difference nila...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Control on Sep 30, 2004 at 07:22 PM


Magkano ang price difference dyan?

Mga 9-10k po..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jeckjeck on Sep 30, 2004 at 10:57 PM


Try mo lang baka pwede pa i-swap?  Ganyan din ksi experience ko this week lang.  Ganito 'yon... last Friday bumili ako sa Ambassador Grinhills ng Yammy 450.  Pag-uwi ko sa bahay sinet-up ko agad to replace my 1-year old Konzert AV500 receiver.  Nag-party pa kami nung Saturday just to break-in my new receiver... dun ko napansin na parang "bitin" kasi 85wrms lang at wala pang S-video input.  Since that day di nako mapakali, di na makatulog, "sayang bat di pa yung 550 ang binili ko"!  So kahapon tinawagan ko yung Ambassador para i-ask kung pwede ko i-upgrade my 450 to 550.  Laking gulat ko kasi pumayag, basta day no gasgas at ibalik ko sa orig na packaging at i-settle ko price difference ng 550 at 450 (P4,000).  Kaya kahapon din dinala ko agad ung 450 sa Ambassador at presto! they gave me a new 550!  Kagabi lang ako nakatulog uli ng mahimbing...

Ü

Hmmm... masubukan nga... Anyone know who to look for at Listening in Style?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Oct 01, 2004 at 12:42 AM


If I have the money, the 640, but the 440 was awarded by EISA, di ba? So, I'd say, sa price and performance ratio, 440 pa rin. But the 640 is, of course, more powerful and is an improvement of the 630 which also received an EISA award. I don't think I helped that much. hehehe. ;D ???
if this is to be based on performance i'd go for the 640 any day.  price always plays a very important factor by EISA.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Oct 01, 2004 at 12:50 AM


Try mo lang baka pwede pa i-swap?  Ganyan din ksi experience ko this week lang.  Ganito 'yon... last Friday bumili ako sa Ambassador Grinhills ng Yammy 450.  Pag-uwi ko sa bahay sinet-up ko agad to replace my 1-year old Konzert AV500 receiver.  Nag-party pa kami nung Saturday just to break-in my new receiver... dun ko napansin na parang "bitin" kasi 85wrms lang at wala pang S-video input.  Since that day di nako mapakali, di na makatulog, "sayang bat di pa yung 550 ang binili ko"!  So kahapon tinawagan ko yung Ambassador para i-ask kung pwede ko i-upgrade my 450 to 550.  Laking gulat ko kasi pumayag, basta day no gasgas at ibalik ko sa orig na packaging at i-settle ko price difference ng 550 at 450 (P4,000).  Kaya kahapon din dinala ko agad ung 450 sa Ambassador at presto! they gave me a new 550!  Kagabi lang ako nakatulog uli ng mahimbing...

Ü

if i were you sir, sana rxv-650 na. :D para naka YPAO na! :D just a suggestion bro. :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: j_albert22 on Oct 01, 2004 at 01:00 AM


if i were you sir, sana rxv-650 na. :D para naka YPAO na! :D just a suggestion bro. :)

sir sent u PM
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Oct 01, 2004 at 02:16 AM
Mga 9-10k po..

10k was a big price difference.  Dito kasi sa Singapore halos 100-150sgd (3-5k) lang ang kaibahan kaya u can go for the higher model.

If to be use in small room with few electronics you plan to connect with,  better go for 440. Then use/add the 10k to get a decent set of speakers.

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Control on Oct 01, 2004 at 08:50 AM


10k was a big price difference.  Dito kasi sa Singapore halos 100-150sgd (3-5k) lang ang kaibahan kaya u can go for the higher model.

If to be use in small room with few electronics you plan to connect with,  better go for 440. Then use/add the 10k to get a decent set of speakers.



Sir, yang pong price na yan ay galing mismo sa source store ng Yamaha (which is Yupangco)... I dunno sa ibang mga dealers store kung ganoon din ang price gap...  ???
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Chito C. on Oct 01, 2004 at 10:00 AM


Sir, yang pong price na yan ay galing mismo sa source store ng Yamaha (which is Yupangco)... I dunno sa ibang mga dealers store kung ganoon din ang price gap... ???


Wag ka dun bumili masyadong mahal. Checked the price of 440 in the yamaha store at megamall price nila almost 19K pero sa iba 13-14k lang.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Oct 01, 2004 at 10:18 AM


if i were you sir, sana rxv-650 na. :D para naka YPAO na! :D just a suggestion bro. :)


I thought of that also pero mabigat na sa budget ko yung difference from 450 to 650!  The difference is enough for me to buy a good subwoofer- wala pa akong subs now e.  Naisip ko pa, is it worth ba yung additional price kasi ang nadagdag lang ay around 10wrms/channel, 7.1, S-video connections at yung YPAO.  Di ba pwede ko rin naman gawin manually yung ginagawa ng YPAO?  Saka anu ba worth ng 7.1 ngayun e puro 5.1 lang at bihira pa 6.1 softwares ang available now?  Anu sa palagay mo, 'dre?  That's why I thought na sa middle na lang ako, which is the 550.

Ü
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Oct 01, 2004 at 11:20 AM
furture proofing so you wouldn't be upgrading for quite sometime.  but i think the 550 would do you justice.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Oct 01, 2004 at 03:34 PM
Actually, yamaha has two front presence channels added to the 7, so that's 9 all-in-all. Yamaha seems to be the only one with their own dsp technology e. Which is an enhancement of DD/DTS surround formats, kaya ang inaambisyon ko rin ngayon is a 650. Audioworld sells it for 25K.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Control on Oct 01, 2004 at 03:54 PM
Actually, yamaha has two front presence channels added to the 7, so that's 9 all-in-all. Yamaha seems to be the only one with their own dsp technology e. Which is an enhancement of DD/DTS surround formats, kaya ang inaambisyon ko rin ngayon is a 650. Audioworld sells it for 25K.

Uy, 25k? Dyan na ako....saan ba yan sir? Baka pwede pwedeng makahingi ng landline number ng Audioworld..  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Oct 01, 2004 at 04:01 PM
Actually, yamaha has two front presence channels added to the 7, so that's 9 all-in-all. Yamaha seems to be the only one with their own dsp technology e. Which is an enhancement of DD/DTS surround formats, kaya ang inaambisyon ko rin ngayon is a 650. Audioworld sells it for 25K.

25k is a bargain. some shops sell it between 26k to 29k.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Control on Oct 01, 2004 at 04:06 PM


25k is a bargain. some shops sell it between 26k to 29k.

Sir Kimpao...saan po bang store ako makakabili ng murang Yammie 650 na nag-ooffer din ng wharfdale diamonds? Help naman po kung pwede...kasi dun sa list ng audio-video stores marami ng out of business....

Thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Oct 01, 2004 at 04:34 PM
Audio World Tech. located at 749 Banawe cor. Sct. Alcaraz, in between Retiro and Delmonte ave.
Tel.7327716 and 7426843

you may also want to try spectra av at park square 1 or watt-hifi at Makati Cimena Square, lower ground area.  Tel. no. 811-1883
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 01, 2004 at 05:52 PM


Sir Kimpao...saan po bang store ako makakabili ng murang Yammie 650 na nag-ooffer din ng wharfdale diamonds? Help naman po kung pwede...kasi dun sa list ng audio-video stores marami ng out of business....

Thanks

Control,

Spectra and watt Hifi carry both brand Wharf and Yamaha pwede mo test agad.. syempre meron this ibang brand..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jeckjeck on Oct 01, 2004 at 06:54 PM
Just thought I'd share with everyone here at PDVD na sale sa Soundroom this weekend until
Sunday.
Some of their AVRs and DVDPs are on sale. Here are some samples from the flyer they gave me:

Denon AVR-1604 from P24,000 down to P17,500
Harman/kardon AVR 130 from P25,000 down to P21,500
Harman/kardon AVR 230 from P31,000 down to P24,990

There were still others on sale but do ko ni tinanong because I gave them a price range of P25k max.

The sale is until Sunday only, Oct. 3 but according to the guy I spoke to there, Joey, if you do not have the full amount, you can just give a small downpayment (kahit nga daw P1,000) to reserve the item and you can just come back and complete the purchase still at the sale price.

Their number is 6357768 look for Joey
 O0  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Oct 02, 2004 at 12:31 PM
AUDIOWORLD TECH. INC, Banaue Ave. corner Sct. Alcaraz Q.C. Tel.: 742-6843 Telefax: 732-7716  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: zakkaz on Oct 02, 2004 at 01:15 PM
Just thought I'd share with everyone here at PDVD na sale sa Soundroom this weekend until
Sunday.
Some of their AVRs and DVDPs are on sale. Here are some samples from the flyer they gave me:

Denon AVR-1604 from P24,000 down to P17,500
Harman/kardon AVR 130 from P25,000 down to P21,500
Harman/kardon AVR 230 from P31,000 down to P24,990

There were still others on sale but do ko ni tinanong because I gave them a price range of P25k max.

The sale is until Sunday only, Oct. 3 but according to the guy I spoke to there, Joey, if you do not have the full amount, you can just give a small downpayment (kahit nga daw P1,000) to reserve the item and you can just come back and complete the purchase still at the sale price.

Their number is 6357768 look for Joey
 O0  ;D
the price of the hk and denon are cheaper at spectra
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Control on Oct 02, 2004 at 01:22 PM
Audio World Tech. located at 749 Banawe cor. Sct. Alcaraz, in between Retiro and Delmonte ave.
Tel.7327716 and 7426843

you may also want to try spectra av at park square 1 or watt-hifi at Makati Cimena Square, lower ground area.  Tel. no. 811-1883

Maraming salamat po Sir Kimpao..  8)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Control on Oct 02, 2004 at 01:33 PM


Control,

Spectra and watt Hifi carry both brand Wharf and Yamaha pwede mo test agad.. syempre meron this ibang brand..

Uy...Thanks Sir Hans..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Oct 03, 2004 at 12:04 PM
Sana bumagay na lang sa bagong luma ko na MS Avant Premiere Series c/o be976.

Pre, yan yung silver di ba? Kung balak mong ibenta timbrehan mo muna ako ha. Thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jeckjeck on Oct 04, 2004 at 02:26 AM
 ;D

Sure thing but check out 5th Ave sa Shang. Nakasale na yung mga Avant Premier nila. Model is exactly like mine, 19k na lang yata set. Look for Rey.

 ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ferdie03 on Oct 04, 2004 at 12:13 PM
mga sir magkano na ba ngaun yamaha receiver 450?
at saan po kaya ako makakabili ng mura mura?

thanks
ferdie03
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Oct 04, 2004 at 01:08 PM
mga sir magkano na ba ngaun yamaha receiver 450?
at saan po kaya ako makakabili ng mura mura?

thanks
ferdie03

Try spectra av at parksquare 1. price is around 17k to 18k
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Chito C. on Oct 04, 2004 at 01:34 PM
Problem - Ayaw gumana ng  dolby digital nung 440 ko. Pag pinindot ko yung dts gumagana naman pero lahat ng dvds na may dolby digital pag pinindot ko yung dd o ac3 eh deretso sya sa pro logic/prologic2. Receiver ba problema o sa dvd player (using nextbase). Also, naka auto yung input mode ko to accept either analog or digital signals.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Oct 04, 2004 at 02:24 PM
Problem - Ayaw gumana ng  dolby digital nung 440 ko. Pag pinindot ko yung dts gumagana naman pero lahat ng dvds na may dolby digital pag pinindot ko yung dd o ac3 eh deretso sya sa pro logic/prologic2. Receiver ba problema o sa dvd player (using nextbase). Also, naka auto yung input mode ko to accept either analog or digital signals.

Check mo yung setup ng dvd player mo kung naka-enable sya for dolby digital.



Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Chito C. on Oct 04, 2004 at 02:31 PM
Baka nga sa dvd player pero two straight nights ko nang kalikot yung player ko ayaw pa din gumana.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Oct 04, 2004 at 02:36 PM
;D
Sure thing but check out 5th Ave sa Shang. Nakasale na yung mga Avant Premier nila. Model is exactly like mine, 19k na lang yata set. Look for Rey.
 ;D

OKs lang pre, no rush naman akong bumili tsaka nandito ako sa Singapore kaya di makakapunta sa mga sale dyan.  Wala kasing all gray na MS Premiere dito eh.   

Basta kapag naisipan mo nang mag-upgrade eh sabihan mo ako ha.  Thanks.



Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Oct 04, 2004 at 02:45 PM
Baka nga sa dvd player pero two straight nights ko nang kalikot yung player ko ayaw pa din gumana.

May option dun whether bitstream or PCM, dapat yata naka-bitstream. 

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ferdie03 on Oct 04, 2004 at 04:27 PM


Try spectra av at parksquare 1. price is around 17k to 18k

thanks bro kimpao. try ko this wkend. ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Oct 04, 2004 at 05:10 PM
Just passed 2 weeks with my new Yammy550, so far so good... just one question:  May "impedance switch" sa likod nitong 550 receiver, saan ko ba sya dapat i-permanent, sa 8ohms or sa 4ohms?  Pareho kong sinubukan i-set yung switch sa 4 and 8ohms pero parang wala naman akong naramdamang pagkakaiba.  I used Digital multimeter to check my speakers- yung front 6ohms, yung center at surround 4ohms.  Nalilito ako here kung san ba talaga dapat nakaset yung switch.  Masisira ba yung 550 pag mali yung setting?  Thank you.

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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Chito C. on Oct 05, 2004 at 10:32 AM

Kuha ko na. Dapat pala nasa pcm raw yung settings nya. Thanks.




May option dun whether bitstream or PCM, dapat yata naka-bitstream.


Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Oct 06, 2004 at 12:11 PM
Just passed 2 weeks with my new Yammy550, so far so good... just one question:  May "impedance switch" sa likod nitong 550 receiver, saan ko ba sya dapat i-permanent, sa 8ohms or sa 4ohms?  Pareho kong sinubukan i-set yung switch sa 4 and 8ohms pero parang wala naman akong naramdamang pagkakaiba.  I used Digital multimeter to check my speakers- yung front 6ohms, yung center at surround 4ohms.  Nalilito ako here kung san ba talaga dapat nakaset yung switch.  Masisira ba yung 550 pag mali yung setting?  Thank you.

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sa 4 Ohms. The impedance switch should be based on your speakers' impedance. Sa pag kakaalam ko, if you switch it to the 4 Ohms side, the impedances are 4 Ohms for Speaker A only, 8 Ohms for Speakers A & B, 6 ohms for the center and rears. Although your center and rears have a lower impedance, I don't think you have any other choice but to set it at that impedance setting. Your amp will be working a bit harder for your center and surrounds though.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Oct 06, 2004 at 02:03 PM

sa 4 Ohms. The impedance switch should be based on your speakers' impedance. Sa pag kakaalam ko, if you switch it to the 4 Ohms side, the impedances are 4 Ohms for Speaker A only, 8 Ohms for Speakers A & B, 6 ohms for the center and rears........

Thanks.  Pero dito na ako nalilito, kasi ganito sabi sa user's manual:

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SWITCH POSITION LEFT:

    1.  Front:
                If you use one set (A or B), the impedance of each speaker must be 4 ohms or higher.
                If you use two sets (A and B), the impedance of each speaker must be 8 ohms or higher.

    2.  Center, Surround, Surround Back:
                The impedance of each speaker must be 6 ohms or higher.

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SWITCH POSITION RIGHT:

    1.  Front:
                If you use one set (A or B), the impedance of each speaker must be 8 ohms or higher.
                If you use two sets (A and B), the impedance of each speaker must be 16 ohms or higher.

    2.  Center, Surround, Surround Back:
                The impedance of each speaker must be 8 ohms or higher.

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Sa sinasabing switch positions above, parang walang nag-match sa current impedance ng mga speakers ko which are: 6 ohms Front and 4 ohms Rear and Center.  Ano kaya ang safe para sa akin please advice, thanks.

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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Oct 06, 2004 at 04:19 PM
Actually, sa left positon sya safest. Wala nang problema sa fronts mo, although, as I said, medyo hirap ang amp mo sa center at surrounds mo since both have lower impedances than your amp. A 4 Ohm amp can drive speakers with impedances of 4, 6, 8, or 16. An 8 ohm amp can drive those with 8, 16, 32 but mahihirapan sya pag 4 or 6 ohms. HIH.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Oct 06, 2004 at 04:44 PM
Actually, sa left positon sya safest. Wala nang problema sa fronts mo, although, as I said, medyo hirap ang amp mo sa center at surrounds mo since both have lower impedances than your amp. A 4 Ohm amp can drive speakers with impedances of 4, 6, 8, or 16. An 8 ohm amp can drive those with 8, 16, 32 but mahihirapan sya pag 4 or 6 ohms. HIH.

Thanks for the explanation.  Pero anu bang ibig sabihin ng sinabi mong "mahihirapan ang amp" ko, will it affect the performance at life span ng mga components nung amp?  Mas mauuna bang masira yung center and surround section ng amp ko?  In this case, I think it justifies na mag upgrade na lang ako sa branded at same-specs speakers para sa lahat ng channels...

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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: iceman90a on Oct 06, 2004 at 05:07 PM


Thanks for the explanation. Pero anu bang ibig sabihin ng sinabi mong "mahihirapan ang amp" ko, will it affect the performance at life span ng mga components nung amp? Mas mauuna bang masira yung center and surround section ng amp ko? In this case, I think it justifies na mag upgrade na lang ako sa branded at same-specs speakers para sa lahat ng channels...

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at regular volume - you shouldn't worry too much ;D amps get stressed only when run at the or near their maximum power capacity for extended periods of time - in real world translation: maximum volume for 4 dvd's straight ;D

otherwise - tama suggestion ni arthurallanj to set it at left

with regards to the different impedance specs of your center and surrounds, you might notice that to get the same volume level as your fronts - you'll have to compensate with the individual channel settings, +1 or +2 , but still no cause for concern
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Oct 06, 2004 at 05:18 PM


at regular volume - you shouldn't worry too much ;D amps get stressed only when run at the or near their maximum power capacity for extended periods of time - in real world translation: maximum volume for 4 dvd's straight ;D

otherwise - tama suggestion ni arthurallanj to set it at left

with regards to the different impedance specs of your center and surrounds, you might notice that to get the same volume level as your fronts - you'll have to compensate with the individual channel settings, +1 or +2 , but still no cause for concern

Ah ok, thanks!  Now I know... kaya pala ang hina ng center at surroud ko pag default at Basic set-up lang nung Yamaha ang ginagamit ko.  Kelangan pang mag-manual setup ako to equalize; I need to set my fronts at -5, my center at +7 and surrounds at +10 to get a decent surround feeling.

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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: iceman90a on Oct 06, 2004 at 05:31 PM


Ah ok, thanks!  Now I know... kaya pala ang hina ng center at surroud ko pag default at Basic set-up lang nung Yamaha ang ginagamit ko.  Kelangan pang mag-manual setup ako to equalize; I need to set my fronts at -5, my center at +7 and surrounds at +10 to get a decent surround feeling.

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use a calibration dvd like digital video esentials, sound & vision or AVIA - and a Sound Pressure Level meter for accurate level balancing ;) sulit yun
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jcob on Oct 06, 2004 at 05:47 PM


Thanks. Pero dito na ako nalilito, kasi ganito sabi sa user's manual:

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SWITCH POSITION LEFT:

  1. Front:
        If you use one set (A or B), the impedance of each speaker must be 4 ohms or higher.
        If you use two sets (A and B), the impedance of each speaker must be 8 ohms or higher.

  2. Center, Surround, Surround Back:
        The impedance of each speaker must be 6 ohms or higher.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

SWITCH POSITION RIGHT:

  1. Front:
        If you use one set (A or B), the impedance of each speaker must be 8 ohms or higher.
        If you use two sets (A and B), the impedance of each speaker must be 16 ohms or higher.

  2. Center, Surround, Surround Back:
        The impedance of each speaker must be 8 ohms or higher.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Sa sinasabing switch positions above, parang walang nag-match sa current impedance ng mga speakers ko which are: 6 ohms Front and 4 ohms Rear and Center. Ano kaya ang safe para sa akin please advice, thanks.



Pards,

This is how I interpret this settings. I think what it wants to tell you only is that your receiver can only accept a max. of 4 ohms no lower than that. That is if the switch is set to the 4 ohms load or the left  switch position. While if you set the switch to right position, you're actually choosing the amp to accept loads equivalent to 8 ohms or higher. Now the combination thing, pag dalawang set ang ginamit mong speaker (i.e. A+B speakers or a total of 4 speakers in front) dapat the total load impedance should not exeed 8 ohms or 4 ohms depending on the switch position. Kasi pag (A+B) I think the speakers are in parallel connection meaning your 2 8 ohms speaker will be equivalent to 4 ohms. Get it so far.  The formula for obtaining two parallel impedance is 1/RT=1/R1 + 1/R2 where RT is the total impedance or resistance and R1 and R2 is the impedance in parallel.

To simplify things at kung hindi ka naman gagamit ng 4 na speakers sa front mo use the 8 ohms setting for 8 ohms speakers or 6 ohms speakers. I beleived the 8 ohms setting is still safe for 6 ohms speakers. Now for your 4 ohms speakers just set the switch to 4 ohms settings.

One more thing, the lower your impedance the more your receiver gets hotter or mas nahihirapan sya kasi it will eat up a lot of current pag mababa ang load and to keep up with the power you require. Here's a simple formula about power Power is equivalent to the square of current multiply by the resistance or impedance. or P=I*I*R so if you'll notice that to get the amount of current for a specific R (Resistance or impedance) and Power or watts you'll have more current for smaller value of R or impedance.

This is also the reason ( I think) why some manufacturer said that their receiver is good because it is high current or it can deliver high current. This means you can put a difficult load or low impedance speaker on their receiver without stressing the amplifier or shutting it down. Some receiver put a short circuit protection actually high current protection on their amp to prevent too much current flowing on the amplifier. Kaya pag mababa ang current threshold ng short circuit protection the amp is said to be low current.

hope this help.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Oct 06, 2004 at 06:38 PM
What I mean by mahihirapan is, the amp will operate at a higher temperature than normal. There's actually no need for you to worry, kasi as said by others here, hindi naman all the time the amp is operating at max capacity e. All I'm saying is, it's not that ideal. But it's okay. It's like attaching a 3/4 inch faucet to a 1/2 inch water line. Pwede rin sya, but not really ideal.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Oct 07, 2004 at 12:54 PM
Just passed 2 weeks with my new Yammy550, so far so good... just one question:  May "impedance switch" sa likod nitong 550 receiver, saan ko ba sya dapat i-permanent, sa 8ohms or sa 4ohms?  Pareho kong sinubukan i-set yung switch sa 4 and 8ohms pero parang wala naman akong naramdamang pagkakaiba.  I used Digital multimeter to check my speakers- yung front 6ohms, yung center at surround 4ohms.  Nalilito ako here kung san ba talaga dapat nakaset yung switch.  Masisira ba yung 550 pag mali yung setting?  Thank you.

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Those impedance switches are current-dividing or limiting switches that make whatever speaker load look the same to(or extract the same current levels from) the amplifier circuit.   They allow the same current to be delivered to your speakers regardless of their impedances.  You would actually have a lower power when using lower impedance speakers, but there'd be no danger to your amp overheating.

Using a multimeter to check on the impedance of your speakers will yield the voice coil resistance, not the complex nominal impedance as indicated at the back of your speakers.  The impedance can be higher as this is the sum of that resistance plus reactance (capacitive and inductive resistance to different frequencies.) Hence, it is likely that a multimeter will read a low of 4 ohms voice coil resistance on an 8-ohm rated speaker impedance.  THis is the DC resistance or voice coil resistance.  Once the signal goes into the speakers, the speaker's reactances to alternating signals add to this.  They can go down to 4ohms at 50hz up to 30 ohms at 2khz.  The NOMINAL impedance rating manufacturers use is often the DC resisitance plus the minimum reactance:  4 ohms + 4 ohms.   So you have an 8-ohm nominal impedance for the speaker. 

Hence, if your multimeter reads 4 ohms or 6 ohms,  chances are the total nominal impedance is more than that.  A 4-ohm impedance speaker would read less than 3 ohms on a multimeter, or less.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Oct 07, 2004 at 01:27 PM
Just passed 2 weeks with my new Yammy550, so far so good... just one question:  May "impedance switch" sa likod nitong 550 receiver, saan ko ba sya dapat i-permanent, sa 8ohms or sa 4ohms?  Pareho kong sinubukan i-set yung switch sa 4 and 8ohms pero parang wala naman akong naramdamang pagkakaiba.  I used Digital multimeter to check my speakers- yung front 6ohms, yung center at surround 4ohms.  Nalilito ako here kung san ba talaga dapat nakaset yung switch.  Masisira ba yung 550 pag mali yung setting?  Thank you.

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I am using 6-ohm speaker in all 5 channels. I dont set impedance setting - even if I use 4-ohm speakers.

If you dont overdrive your gears, it is best you leave the setting to 8 ohms. Yamaha setting is somewhat weird  >:( to me. In the other setting, the front becomes 6ohms while the surround becomes 4ohms.  ???
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Laverne Enoch on Oct 07, 2004 at 05:11 PM
I'm selling my Yamaha RX-V530, slightly used kasi ginagamit ko lang pag saturday night and sunday afternoon  and all the week yan ang routine ko.Who wants to buy? moderator, how much the current price on brand new?mgakno na kay itong second hand ko. by the way,mga 10 months palang ito at i'm planning to buy RX-V2400 sa yupangco around 55K yata.(THX certified daw ito.)please call me at my office 373 03 04 or on mobile 0917 6295103.Anybody!!!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jcob on Oct 07, 2004 at 05:16 PM
I'm selling my Yamaha RX-V530, slightly used kasi ginagamit ko lang pag saturday night and sunday afternoon and all the week yan ang routine ko.Who wants to buy? moderator, how much the current price on brand new?mgakno na kay itong second hand ko. by the way,mga 10 months palang ito at i'm planning to buy RX-V2400 sa yupangco around 55K yata.(THX certified daw ito.)please call me at my office 373 03 04 or on mobile 0917 6295103.Anybody!!!


Sir, mahal dyan sa yupangco. Try to go to park square 1. maraming tindahan dun. And you can post your for sale receiver at the buy & sell section, para madaling mabili.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Control on Oct 07, 2004 at 06:58 PM


Sir, mahal dyan sa yupangco. Try to go to park square 1. maraming tindahan dun. And you can post your for sale receiver at the buy & sell section, para madaling mabili.

Yup I second to that. Sayang din yung matitipid mo...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Oct 07, 2004 at 07:29 PM
Thanks to all who responded sa concern ko regarding the correct setting of my Yamaha 550's impedance switch.  Ngayon may peace of mind na ako, learning from you guys the safe setting of the switch.  Ang saya talaga dito sa pdvd, andaming matutulunging tao at madami pang matututunan!  Mas enjoyable mag-HT dahil nandito ang pdvd!  LONG LIVE PDVD!!!  HEP HEP, HOORAY!!!   ;D :) :D

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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jeckjeck on Oct 07, 2004 at 08:31 PM
I'm selling my Yamaha RX-V530, slightly used kasi ginagamit ko lang pag saturday night and sunday afternoon  and all the week yan ang routine ko.Who wants to buy? moderator, how much the current price on brand new?mgakno na kay itong second hand ko. by the way,mga 10 months palang ito at i'm planning to buy RX-V2400 sa yupangco around 55K yata.(THX certified daw ito.)please call me at my office 373 03 04 or on mobile 0917 6295103.Anybody!!!


Dude,

I got my Yammy RX-V530 from Listening in Style sa Shang brand new 12k+, 0% for 6 months. This may give you an idea how much you can sell yours.

If you are looking for a new model better go to Listening in Style (medyo bad service nga lang doon) or Electronics Depot. If you can go to Makati, go to to Park Square nga sa. Hindi ko rin sure baka may BPI sale pa sa Glorietta.

Goodluck!  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: markygail on Oct 08, 2004 at 01:04 AM
Guys, im posting this for a friend. He has a Yamaha rx-v430 and this was brought by his dad when it came back from saudi along with a LG dvd player. ang problem niya is he can't play DTS movies. meron siyang fast and the furious dvd and nung wala pa silang HT, nakinood lang muna siya sa cousin niya. the DTS worked daw, and they where all amazed of the difference  of it and dolby digital. so nung may HT na sila, he played it but ayaw gumana nung DTS. wala daw sound na lumalabas pag DTS ang sinelect. although pag dolby digital meron. so i decided to go to his place and see what i can do, ive brought with me 2 DTS dvd's para matest talaga kasi baka sira na yung fast and the furious niya. ive played my dvd's and ganun pa din. walang sound pag naka DTS pero dolby digital meron. i checked his connections. ok naman. what could be the problem kaya?the receiver or the player? sabi niya kasi yung LG dvd player daw nila(which i doubt).
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Laverne Enoch on Oct 08, 2004 at 07:58 AM
Thank you nga pala sa mga advisers kung saan makakabili ng mas murang mga Amps.

I talked with my wife and she agreed to sell our entire HT, as follows;
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Oct 08, 2004 at 09:36 AM
........i checked his connections. ok naman. what could be the problem kaya?the receiver or the player? sabi niya kasi yung LG dvd player daw nila(which i doubt).

Magdala ka na rin ng DVD player sa kanila.  Pag gumana yung dala mong dvd player, may problem ang LG player nya.  Pag di rin gumana yung dala mong dvd player, sa receiver nya ang problema.  Good luck...

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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Chito C. on Oct 08, 2004 at 09:58 AM
Guys, im posting this for a friend. He has a Yamaha rx-v430 and this was brought by his dad when it came back from saudi along with a LG dvd player. ang problem niya is he can't play DTS movies. meron siyang fast and the furious dvd and nung wala pa silang HT, nakinood lang muna siya sa cousin niya. the DTS worked daw, and they where all amazed of the difference of it and dolby digital. so nung may HT na sila, he played it but ayaw gumana nung DTS. wala daw sound na lumalabas pag DTS ang sinelect. although pag dolby digital meron. so i decided to go to his place and see what i can do, ive brought with me 2 DTS dvd's para matest talaga kasi baka sira na yung fast and the furious niya. ive played my dvd's and ganun pa din. walang sound pag naka DTS pero dolby digital meron. i checked his connections. ok naman. what could be the problem kaya?the receiver or the player? sabi niya kasi yung LG dvd player daw nila(which i doubt).

Pre,

ako naman baliktad. ayaw gumana nung dd ko pero dts ok lang. Malamang sa setup ng dvd player yan. Check nyo yung audio setup ng player.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: zakkaz on Oct 08, 2004 at 10:42 AM


Dude,

I got my Yammy RX-V530 from Listening in Style sa Shang brand new 12k+, 0% for 6 months. This may give you an idea how much you can sell yours.

If you are looking for a new model better go to Listening in Style (medyo bad service nga lang doon) or Electronics Depot. If you can go to Makati, go to to Park Square nga sa. Hindi ko rin sure baka may BPI sale pa sa Glorietta.

Goodluck!  ;)
spectra is having their audio video exhibit at edsa mall glorietta and offering 0% 6 months BPI
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Oct 08, 2004 at 12:16 PM
Guys, im posting this for a friend. He has a Yamaha rx-v430 and this was brought by his dad when it came back from saudi along with a LG dvd player. ang problem niya is he can't play DTS movies. meron siyang fast and the furious dvd and nung wala pa silang HT, nakinood lang muna siya sa cousin niya. the DTS worked daw, and they where all amazed of the difference  of it and dolby digital. so nung may HT na sila, he played it but ayaw gumana nung DTS. wala daw sound na lumalabas pag DTS ang sinelect. although pag dolby digital meron. so i decided to go to his place and see what i can do, ive brought with me 2 DTS dvd's para matest talaga kasi baka sira na yung fast and the furious niya. ive played my dvd's and ganun pa din. walang sound pag naka DTS pero dolby digital meron. i checked his connections. ok naman. what could be the problem kaya?the receiver or the player? sabi niya kasi yung LG dvd player daw nila(which i doubt).

You didnt describe the connection.

One possibility is that the LG player is connected using RCA cables to the Yamaha AV, and the LG player has no DTS decoder - so no sound will come out to your apeakers

Another one is, if the LG player is connected via OPTICAL cable, set the LG player to transmit RAW files, and select from the Yamaha AV which one to decode (DD or DTS)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Oct 08, 2004 at 02:13 PM
...........Another one is, if the LG player is connected via OPTICAL cable, set the LG player to transmit RAW files.....

Question:  Anu bang mas tamang setting, "RAW" or "PCM"?  What is the advantage/disadvantages over the other?  Sa Extreme DVD ko kasi parehong gumagana kahit saan i-set, pero medyo mahina lang ng konti yung audio pagnaka set sa PCM.  Please advice...

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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Laverne Enoch on Oct 08, 2004 at 02:33 PM
I talked to my wife and she agreed to sell  our entire HT, kasi nga we need to updgrade na din;

Amp : Yamaha RX-v530
Main Speaker : Wharfedale Diamond 8.2
Center   : Wharfedale
Rear  : Wharfedale (yung bi-pole ba)I dont what call it.
Sub : Dynaquest 12

  Anybody want to bid:                 


Kakainis kasi nung bumibili kami sa Ambassador -greenhills at hindi sinabi yung totoong wattage ng yamaha at too small for our newly HT room at our 3rd floor maybe at around 33 square meter kaya im not satisfied sa sound kahit full volume na.

By the way, thanks dun sa mga nagturo kung saan yung maraming bilihan ng amps.Check ko na lang dun.

thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Oct 08, 2004 at 02:59 PM

.........Sub : Dynaquest 12............


Sent you a PM, I'm interested in your subwoofer.  Please txt me at 09192205626.  Thanks.

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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Oct 08, 2004 at 03:11 PM
         

Kakainis kasi nung bumibili kami sa Ambassador -greenhills at hindi sinabi yung totoong wattage ng yamaha at too small for our newly HT room at our 3rd floor maybe at around 33 square meter kaya im not satisfied sa sound kahit full volume na.



This is the not the first time I heard something like this.  What is the receiver's rated power?  Would be intereting to know if that is what your room size needed?  What is your preferred volume levels anyway?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: markygail on Oct 08, 2004 at 07:12 PM


You didnt describe the connection.

One possibility is that the LG player is connected using RCA cables to the Yamaha AV, and the LG player has no DTS decoder - so no sound will come out to your apeakers

Another one is, if the LG player is connected via OPTICAL cable, set the LG player to transmit RAW files, and select from the Yamaha AV which one to decode (DD or DTS)

yup. RCA cable nga ang gamit niya. pero kasi ako rca plugs lang ang gamit ko, my receiver is just a konzert AV500R. pero may dd and dts decoder ang player ko. so meaning dapat digital ang connection niya para gumana yung DTS? tska diba may DTS decoder yung rx-v430? so kahit walang decoder yung player nila, it should work. tska naka off naman yung downmix and its set at PCM.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 08, 2004 at 07:22 PM


yup. RCA cable nga ang gamit niya. pero kasi ako rca plugs lang ang gamit ko, my receiver is just a konzert AV500R. pero may dd and dts decoder ang player ko. so meaning dapat digital ang connection niya para gumana yung DTS? tska diba may DTS decoder yung rx-v430? so kahit walang decoder yung player nila, it should work. tska naka off naman yung downmix and its set at PCM.

Bro dapat digital connection gamit nya Optical or Toslink so you can use the on board DAC ng Yamaha.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: markygail on Oct 08, 2004 at 07:51 PM


Bro dapat digital connection gamit nya Optical or Toslink so you can use the on board DAC ng Yamaha.

ah.dapat pala optical dapat.pero bakit pag dolby digital puwedeng rca plugs lang? tapos DTS digital dapat?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 08, 2004 at 07:56 PM


ah.dapat pala optical dapat.pero bakit pag dolby digital puwedeng rca plugs lang? tapos DTS digital dapat?

Ilan RCA gamit nya bro... kung 6 pcs pwede kasi meron DD decoder DVD nya pero kung 1 pair lang baka naka DSP sya kaya 5 channel ang dating..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: markygail on Oct 08, 2004 at 10:48 PM


Ilan RCA gamit nya bro... kung 6 pcs pwede kasi meron DD decoder DVD nya pero kung 1 pair lang baka naka DSP sya kaya 5 channel ang dating..

2 lang ang gamit niyang RCA and yup. gumagamit siya ng DSP. salamat mga sir. i'll tell him na he should buy an optical cable.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Oct 09, 2004 at 09:16 AM
Bro,
Ang DTS kasi is a digital signal e kaya kelangan nya digital connection, either by coaxial(a single RCA cable would work just fine) or by optical. Pag di pa sya nakabili ng optical cable, use an ordinary rca cable na lang muna as Digital Coaxial connection. Isang piraso lang. Check mo front panel ng LG nya, if it says, DTS digital out, then via digital connection lang, if DTS digital surround, then pwede sya via on board decoder ng DVD player, kung meron nga, using the "6 rca cable method". HIH.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Laverne Enoch on Oct 11, 2004 at 08:42 AM
thanks sa mga interested sa HT ko at check ko muna ang breakdown ng price at nabili kasi namin ito ng package kaya at hindi ko check pa then let you know tomorrow.


This is the not the first time I heard something like this.  What is the receiver's rated power? Would be intereting to know if that is what your room size needed? What is your preferred volume levels anyway? Thanks.
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Ang receiver power talaga ay 65 watts RMS pero nung binili namin yun sabi ng salesman na 95watts na ito  but in IEAJ (tama ba?) very deceiving di ba? Kaya nga nung nabasa ko yung manual technical specs kinabukasan ay bumalik agad ako sa salesman sabi ko dinaya mo ako ha sabi mo 95w pero 65 lang pala, ang sagot ba naman ay  95w based on the IAEJ standard daw sila tumitingin,  that time ay hindi pa ako knowledgeable sa HT kaya nagresearch ako at bumibili ako ng HT magazine ng hindi na ako magoyo pa..
that time kasi, ang preferred watts ko lang ay 100 watts RMS at 5 equal channel, so isip isip ko oks na ito sa akin (Yamaha 530) at hindi pa kasi tapos yung HT room namin pero nung natapos na at iset up ko na sa HT room dun lumabas na hindi nya kaya ang room, mahina at laging nag auto off ang receiver at 15-20 db volume level lang,siguro mga 30 mins lang yun na tuloy tuloy.Kaya i'm planning to upgrade. sa Yamaha naman 530 oks lang ito kung maliit ang room mo, pero kung katulad sa akin na 33m2 at gusto ko talaga marinig yung true sound ng music and movie ay talagang full volume para ma i drive naman to the limit ang speakers.Kaya sa inis ko, hindi ko na gaanong ginagamit at HT ko kasi kaya every sat pm and sun am na lang.
Im looking for a new one yung denon 3805 or yamaha 2400 at compare ko pa ang performance review.moderator do you have a suggestion,please?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Oct 11, 2004 at 10:54 AM
Ano nga gamit mo na speakers and sub? Kung Wharfedale kasi, medyo hard to drive talaga. Instead of deciding to change your amp kaagad, why not try other speakers muna, maybe you could borrow more sensitive speakers from friends. Just a suggestion, though.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Oct 11, 2004 at 11:34 AM

Ang receiver power talaga ay 65 watts RMS pero nung binili namin yun sabi ng salesman na 95watts na ito  but in IEAJ (tama ba?) very deceiving di ba? Kaya nga nung nabasa ko yung manual technical specs kinabukasan ay bumalik agad ako sa salesman sabi ko dinaya mo ako ha sabi mo 95w pero 65 lang pala, ang sagot ba naman ay  95w based on the IAEJ standard daw sila tumitingin,  that time ay hindi pa ako knowledgeable sa HT kaya nagresearch ako at bumibili ako ng HT magazine ng hindi na ako magoyo pa..
that time kasi, ang preferred watts ko lang ay 100 watts RMS at 5 equal channel, so isip isip ko oks na ito sa akin (Yamaha 530) at hindi pa kasi tapos yung HT room namin pero nung natapos na at iset up ko na sa HT room dun lumabas na hindi nya kaya ang room, mahina at laging nag auto off ang receiver at 15-20 db volume level lang,siguro mga 30 mins lang yun na tuloy tuloy.Kaya i'm planning to upgrade. sa Yamaha naman 530 oks lang ito kung maliit ang room mo, pero kung katulad sa akin na 33m2 at gusto ko talaga marinig yung true sound ng music and movie ay talagang full volume para ma i drive naman to the limit ang speakers.Kaya sa inis ko, hindi ko na gaanong ginagamit at HT ko kasi kaya every sat pm and sun am na lang.
Im looking for a new one yung denon 3805 or yamaha 2400 at compare ko pa ang performance review.moderator do you have a suggestion,please?

The IAEJ is now JETA which I think rates the power at 1khz or in stereo mode in a multichannel amp, not ALL channels driven.  This is actually my complaint about those stereo ratings on multi-channel receivers and amps.  The salesman is right is claiming his 95wpc as that is what the manufacturer has as its power rated with so-so standards. 

I would suggest you check out the NAD brands for their FULL power disclosure policies that rates ALL channels at full bandwidth. (You can check their website for this)  At any rate, your 33sqm room may still be too large for most receivers rated at 100wpc.  Not all can deliver 100watts per channel.  And it is often adviseable that you don't operate the amps at their rated power. I would suggest you use power amplifer separates from Aragon, Acurus, Adcom, Parasound, Musical Fidelity, Bryston or Meridian.  You can still use your Yamaha receiver with its preout mated to these external power amps.

Also, arthurallanz is right in saying your speakers' sensitivity can also limit the maximum sound levels you can get.   A speaker with 3db more sensitvity than what you have now is about the same as getting an amplifer with twice the power rating. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Aston Martin on Oct 11, 2004 at 11:44 AM
sir ako na naman ;)

what do you think of a yammy rx-v440 and Mordaunt-Short Avant series (302, 304, 308)speaker combination?

sige na mga sir, guluhin nyo na isipan ko ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Oct 11, 2004 at 11:52 AM
sir ako na naman ;)

what do you think of a yammy rx-v440 and Mordaunt-Short Avant series (302, 304, 308)speaker combination?

sige na mga sir, guluhin nyo na isipan ko ;D

was able to listen to this combi but my friend was using a 906. Very nice and decent combi especially for ht medyo warm sounding, di gaano nakaka pagod makinig might be due to the newer yammy 440.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Oct 11, 2004 at 12:23 PM
sir ako na naman ;)

what do you think of a yammy rx-v440 and Mordaunt-Short Avant series (302, 304, 308)speaker combination?

sige na mga sir, guluhin nyo na isipan ko ;D

This combi will be average for movies and music.  For better combi: If you want to keep the Yamaha AMP, get Mission or KEF or Wharfdale speakers. If you want to keep the Mordaunt Short speakers, get Marantz AMP. 



Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Aston Martin on Oct 11, 2004 at 12:38 PM
thanks for the feedback. lemme just correct myself, MS Premiere Series pala :D

hhmm....talagang lahat preferred Wharfedale ah ::)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Oct 11, 2004 at 12:41 PM
Aston Martin

you can't go wrong with a wharf/yamaha combi, i myself use such.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Oct 11, 2004 at 03:29 PM
Dati I wanted a yamaha/wharfedale combi, kaya lang the sensitivity of the Wharfes really turned me off. That's why I decided to go with the DTX 9.5. Mas mura pa. Hehehe. But that's just me. ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Control on Oct 11, 2004 at 03:33 PM
Aston Martin

you can't go wrong with a wharf/yamaha combi, i myself use such.

Sa lakas ng infuence ni Sir Kimpao....ganyan din ang choice ko..."provided na 70%+HT ang gamit ng Yamaha/Wharfdale combo mo...."
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Control on Oct 13, 2004 at 01:25 PM
Tanong lang po sa may mga Yamaha receivers with YPAO capability..... Nagamit nyo na po ba itong feature na ito? Any comments/Feedbacks? Thanks po...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Oct 13, 2004 at 01:33 PM


Sa lakas ng infuence ni Sir Kimpao....ganyan din ang choice ko..."provided na 70%+HT ang gamit ng Yamaha/Wharfdale combo mo...."

Ahahahaha!!!!!!!........ Sir baka iba na ang ma-isip ng mga members dito.  ;D ;D 

Yup, majority of members here would go for such combi if budget is to be considered and frequency of usage but if it would be 50% HT and 50% Audio. Better go for a HK/Wharf combi but one has to shell-out a little more for this.   :)

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Chito C. on Oct 15, 2004 at 03:23 PM
Mga peeps,

Tanong lang po. Bakit sa ibang dvd's yung volume ng DTS ko eh mas malakas sa DD (almost double) eventhough I don't change the volume.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JhunDV on Oct 15, 2004 at 03:42 PM
^ It depends on the audio encoding of the DVD.  DTS is usually louder than DD.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: edboy7 on Oct 16, 2004 at 03:31 AM
OT,well its not actually louder coz all the soundtracks came from a single master, dts says their processing is not that compressed compared to DD which makes it more crisp, fuller and sonically entertaining ;D its like Mp3 on 128kbps for DD and 360kbps for dts well thats how i see it :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Oct 16, 2004 at 08:27 AM
Tanong lang po sa may mga Yamaha receivers with YPAO capability..... Nagamit nyo na po ba itong feature na ito? Any comments/Feedbacks? Thanks po...

I have the RX-V650, and I've tried using it. Yup, matalino sya. Ang galing. This may be for those who are less experienced with personally calibrating their amp. And this may be para sa tamad na din sa pagkalikot ng amp nila, hehehe. It's very convenient and useful.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Oct 16, 2004 at 08:41 AM
OT: It is the compression rate that makes the difference sa volume ng DD at DTS. DTS offers less compression so the quality is better.

Bro edboy,
I think a better comparison would be listening to a High Quality audio CD and an MP3 disc. Just me, though.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Laverne Enoch on Oct 16, 2004 at 03:09 PM
Thanks sa lahat ng nag reply.Pwede ko na bang ibenta ng 23thous yung buong set ng HT ko?Anyone interested?please let me know otherwise i will try to buy amplifier to boost the power of my HT.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Control on Oct 18, 2004 at 06:49 AM


I have the RX-V650, and I've tried using it. Yup, matalino sya. Ang galing. This may be for those who are less experienced with personally calibrating their amp. And this may be para sa tamad na din sa pagkalikot ng amp nila, hehehe. It's very convenient and useful.  ;D

OO nga...very good para sa mga bago pa lng nagbubuo ng HT...kabubuo ko lang kc kahapon ng set-up ko at ginamit ko agad itong feature na ito (naipilit ko kasing makuha ng maaga yung loan ko  >:D )...ang sarap ng feeling...dumadagundung yung pera ko...nyahahaha
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Oct 18, 2004 at 12:02 PM
Thanks sa lahat ng nag reply.Pwede ko na bang ibenta ng 23thous yung buong set ng HT ko?Anyone interested?please let me know otherwise i will try to buy amplifier to boost the power of my HT.

Bro, I'm interested sa surrounds at center mo, could you please PM me last price mo for each? And pati na rin ang 530 mo, I have a friend na intersado dyan. Thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jerix on Oct 19, 2004 at 07:31 AM
Thanks sa lahat ng nag reply.Pwede ko na bang ibenta ng 23thous yung buong set ng HT ko?Anyone interested?please let me know otherwise i will try to buy amplifier to boost the power of my HT.

Bro, before you sell all your stuff, maybe unahin mo na lang muna ung sub mo- meaning u have to change that into a more powerful one that can deliver the punch that u want. I have a 36 sqm open HT area and m using a 100wcp x 6 amp- but m using a 350w custom made fiberglass coated sub which i think is more than sufficient to package my requirements considering my listening environment.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Laverne Enoch on Oct 19, 2004 at 08:31 AM
Jerix - Actually yan ang plan ko to upgrade everything.Yung Sub ko i'm planning to replace by JBL sub or Polk audio na 250w rms then front JBL ,yung northridge model nila.I have to go to Park square first before finalizing it.nalilito nha ako at negative ang nababasa kong mga review sa Rx2400 at denon 3805.As i read,rx can only deliver 60wpc while denon ata b out 77wpc where they claimed 120wpc equal channel, so disgusting with their promotional specs.

Arthur j- I dont know the latest price right of all this stuff Im jut learned from the other pinoydvd member that it is only 12k+.Aside from that i dont how to appraise second hand stuff. Ayaw ko naman both parties (seller/buyer) na magkalamangan, I want to be fair lang.Maybe, magpropose ka ng price mo then let me check if it is with me your price then i will counter offer until we'll meet the best/fair price.Kunin mo na lang lahat kay para mas ok at hindi na ako maghahanap pa ng ibang bibili ng matitira mo.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jerix on Oct 20, 2004 at 08:10 AM
Laverne, let me tell u my story-- ;D with my open viewing and listening area of 36 sqm, POWER was really an issue to me.  So, i looked for powerful amp in the market. To be frank its really very difficult to find one which is at the same time CHEAP. But after all, i settled with the "___________". It has a max power of 120 x 6 and con power of 100 x 6. 

Initially i was not satisfied because there were only 6 speakers in my set-up. and whenever i pumped the power of the amp medyo umaalma na yung mga speakers because they were relatively small and my receivers speakers setup was always set to small. My sub then was 12o watts at hirap din...

I have read several articles about BIWIRING and that gave me an idea to add speakers in my setup. So, I now have two speakers for each of my left and right front channels and 3 speakers for my center. the two additional speakers in my fronts both have 10" drivers. For my back surrounds, i also now use four 10" speakers. I use big speakers so i can setup my receiver's speaker setup into LARGE.

The good thing about my receiver is though the speakers in my setup are set into LARGE, its sub signal is not at all diminished or muted. So with all the speakers delivering bass signals, plus my 350 watts custom made sub, i even can feel the table trembles.--  ;D 

Laverne, Yamaha receivers are really good in HT i think, but their powerful receivers are pricey.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: garee on Oct 20, 2004 at 08:46 AM
sir laverne enoch, interested po sa wharfs wh-2 center and surround speaker mo, please pm your fair price  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: moks on Oct 21, 2004 at 12:58 PM
any comments or reviews on the yamaha rx-v350 na receiver? ok ba yun? medyo mura kse cya...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Laverne Enoch on Oct 22, 2004 at 09:09 AM
Jerix-please can you tell me how did you that? i mean the bi-wring.You maen you double your each main output.I'm not an expert in electronic  so im afraid to do that procedure although i read that on the wharfedale speaker manual. Please can you tell the step by step and so for the meantime i will hold to sell my HT. Ang laki rin kasi ng budget ko na kung mag upgrade ako, nakakapanghinayang naman. By the way, which one is the most powerful speakers,the 4ohms or 8 ohms as theri nominal impedance?I cant relate on this topic.Please can you explain in layman terminologies.
Kasi i read na yung rbh speakers has a 4 ohms nominal impedance which commonly use by an expert when they review new amp while the other has 8 ohms which is commonly use by us.Which one is the best speakers in terms of power and clarity?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Control on Oct 22, 2004 at 09:17 AM
Jerix-please can you tell me how did you that? i mean the bi-wring.You maen you double your each main output.I'm not an expert in electronic  so im afraid to do that procedure although i read that on the wharfedale speaker manual. Please can you tell the step by step and so for the meantime i will hold to sell my HT. Ang laki rin kasi ng budget ko na kung mag upgrade ako, nakakapanghinayang naman. By the way, which one is the most powerful speakers,the 4ohms or 8 ohms as theri nominal impedance?I cant relate on this topic.Please can you explain in layman terminologies.
Kasi i read na yung rbh speakers has a 4 ohms nominal impedance which commonly use by an expert when they review new amp while the other has 8 ohms which is commonly use by us.Which one is the best speakers in terms of power and clarity?

Lavern..here are useful links..

Bi-wiring
http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=1879.0

4 ohm or 8 ohm
http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=29143.0
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jerix on Oct 25, 2004 at 07:49 AM
Laverne,

Besides the threads given by Control on the issue about biwiring, which helped me understand the process, i also googled on the topic and self-studied it. However, let me highlight the most important lesson i got on biwiring:

Determine first the spkr impedance requirement of your amp. Mine can handle 8 - 16 ohms. In computing the resulting Ohms of your combined speakers, SERIES connection yields double value of your speaker. So if u have two 8 ohm-speakers connected in series, it will yield 16 ohms. this is what i did because it is within the range of my amp. If you scout for the appropriate speaker to use i advise you to consider this. Para di ka mahirapan, mas convenient kung the same impedance na spekrs kunin, kesa naman 4 ohms at 8 ohms, mahirap e-compute yan, lalo na at basic lang ang alam natin.

Sa setup ko pwede ko rin e-combine ang dalawang 16 ohms na speakers. as long as i do it in PARALLEL, because it will yield 8 ohms, within the range pa rin. In my environment, i added speakers for better sound management, at least i can place the other one, in areas na kailangan, so ang dating mas buo at mas powerful.-- ;D

on which is more powerful 4 or 8 ohm speakers? i think it depends largely on the capacity of your amp to drive either. There are so many brands of expensive and cheap speakers in the market to cho0se from. One brand may be good in the mids and highs, the other may be good in the low freqs. Those that have both are the most expensive one-- ;D

But for me, i got both in two separate boxes- that is, one speaker with excellent mids and highs and the other one excellent in low freqs. I biwired them  and use it as my fronts. Most of the time, i dont even use my sub now especially for music.--  ;)

 



 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Oct 25, 2004 at 10:04 AM
Bro jerix,
That may be an appropriate suggestion for bro laverne's problem. It is better to add speakers than to get an amp with a higher power rating. The former produces higher SPLs for the same amp power than getting an amp with twice the power but with the same speakers. So, bro laverne, since you've decided na di ka muna mag-uupgrade, get more speakers na lang to fill your room more. HIH.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jerix on Oct 25, 2004 at 10:22 AM
Tweaking the sound until you get the best, through speaker placement bro Arthur is an easier task especially when you have more than enough speakers to use, in a LARGE listening or viewing environment, which is possible under a BIWIRE option using two speakers in each channel.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Oct 25, 2004 at 10:26 AM
I second that bro jerix, medyo sayang din kasi pag nag upgrade kaagad si bro laverne e, no? Kaya, sa malaking room nya, these may be the best solutions for now.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Oct 25, 2004 at 10:47 AM
Bro jerix,
That may be an appropriate suggestion for bro laverne's problem. It is better to add speakers than to get an amp with a higher power rating. The former produces higher SPLs for the same amp power than getting an amp with twice the power but with the same speakers. So, bro laverne, since you've decided na di ka muna mag-uupgrade, get more speakers na lang to fill your room more. HIH.  :)

Adding speakers of the same efficiency and impedance in series connection will simply distribute the current from your amplifer, dividing that into each.    The power of the amp is dispersed to those speakers.  SPL is conserved, at least.  Most likely, the total power is diminished as each additional speaker will waste energy in the form of heat losses from their coils. 

Adding a speaker of the same efficiency and impedance in parallel connection with another will double the total power and increase the overall SPL by 3db.  That is ideal.  But ONLY IF your amplifer can deliver twice the current equally to both speakers in parallel.    That means it's a high current amp that can drive 4-ohm loads or less.  Very few recievers can do that.  Even most separates do not double their power at half the impedance.  Again, there are heat losses in speakers, so you don't exactly deliver 3db SPL more as you connect two identical speakers in parallel. 

If you want to increase your SPL without changing the amp to a higher wattage, use a speaker of the same impedance but with a higher sensitivity   A 3db increase in speaker sensitivty is equivalent to doubling the power of an amp.  You need a 10db increase in speaker senstivity to perceive a doubling of SPL. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: rebelsage on Oct 25, 2004 at 10:54 AM
just wanted to get it right.  my understanding is in a bi-wire configuration, you have 2 sets of inputs in a speaker (mid & high) which you connect to the output in the amp.  this will supposedly give a smoother response, although there's much debate there.  my personal experience with entry-level speakers is that it doesn't make a difference.

this is different from bi-amping, where separate amps drive the high & mid of each speaker.  i understand this best works with active crossovers and is best left to experts.

on adding speakers to a single amp, e.g. running them in parallel, be careful not to overload the amp.  the amp will read this as a 4 ohm load (assuming 8 ohm speakers) and the speakers become twice as hard to drive.  so expect a 100wpc amp to perform like 50wpc in this config.  damage to speakers ironically comes from underpowered amps.  when strained, the amp will clip and send a "dead" signal that will ruin most speakers.  in fact it's recommended to have more power in reserve, e.g. use >100wpc amp (rms of course) to drive 100wpc rated speakers.

a sub/sat set-up greatly improves performance of smaller speakers since you only demand that speakers to reproduce frequencies it can do best.  most distortion comes from asking small speakers to reproduce low frequencies, which incidentally is what demands the most power from amp.  using a powered sub & setting your speakers to small is in effect a bi-amp configuration, and should improve your ht sound.  the amp/receiver is relieved from producing the most power hungry low frequencies (which the powered sub now handles) and delivers cleaner power to drive the mids and highs for an improved sound overall.

of course, if your main speakers full-range (i.e. goes as low as 25-35 hz) & you have the amps to match, then set them to large & use the sub for bass or lfe reinforcement.

sorry if this was a bit long-winded.  good luck in your choices.  
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Oct 25, 2004 at 11:20 AM
Kasi i read na yung rbh speakers has a 4 ohms nominal impedance which commonly use by an expert when they review new amp while the other has 8 ohms which is commonly use by us.Which one is the best speakers in terms of power and clarity?

Speaker clarity has nothing to do with the speaker's impedance.  

Impedance is an electrical phenomenon. It is not an accoustic one.  Check Ohm's Law. The lower the impedance, the more current in drawn from the amp, and vice-versa.   But only if the amplifier is designed to deliver more current at lower impedance.  If not, the amp will die a horrible death.   ;D

Impedance simply indicates how much load the speaker presents to the amp for it to work best.  The easier the load (matches the amp's requirement), the more productive the work (best power transfer).  So an 8-ohm load will make an amp that requires 8-ohms to give the most that it can.  Similarly. a 4-ohm load will present itself nicely to an amp that requires one.

Impedance has nothing to do with the quality of sound coming from speakers.  There are excellent sounding speakers in either.  As well as lousy ones.  



Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jerix on Oct 25, 2004 at 11:28 AM


on adding speakers to a single amp, e.g. running them in parallel, be careful not to overload the amp.  the amp will read this as a 4 ohm load (assuming 8 ohm speakers) and the speakers become twice as hard to drive.  so expect a 100wpc amp to perform like 50wpc in this config.  damage to speakers ironically comes from underpowered amps.  when strained, the amp will clip and send a "dead" signal that will ruin most speakers.  in fact it's recommended to have more power in reserve, e.g. use >100wpc amp (rms of course) to drive 100wpc rated speakers.



Rebel, your correct, thats why we really need to to determine first the impedance capacity of the amp, so we will not go wrong and burn the amp or the speakers maybe. The safest is to get two speakers with similar ratings, so its easier  to compute its resulting combined ratings in either the parallel or series connections.

One good tip from bro av_phile1 is to get high-sensitivity speakers so the amp would not suffer so much.

Some materials i read are saying that two speaker boxes at 50 watts each are better than one speaker box at 100 watts. The reason is the fact that you can actually place one speaker where u feel lacking in sound. A good tweaking  option when u have large room. ;D

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Oct 25, 2004 at 01:49 PM

Some materials i read are saying that two speaker boxes at 50 watts each are better than one speaker box at 100 watts. The reason is the fact that you can actually place one speaker where u feel lacking in sound. A good tweaking  option when u have large room. ;D



I think this has something to do with the fact that SPL is proportional to the cone area of the driver. And the proportionality of power to SPL is lower than cone area to SPL. That's why the SPL of two 50w speakers are higher than one 100w speaker, all other factors equal, of course. Just me, though.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: rebelsage on Oct 25, 2004 at 02:19 PM
not sure 2 speakers are always better than one, jerix.  that might be true for surrounds, i.e. the 3 or 4 surround speakers in a 6.1 or 7.1 set-up are usually better than the 2 in 5.1.  but i'm not sure having more than 3 speakers for the mains and center will prove better.  i'd rather spend on better mains/center than have more of them.

as for subs in a large room, i think a single more powerful one, properly positioned, will do better than 2 smaller subs.  for ht, anyway.  l/r subs might prove better for music, though.  just my 2 cents.  cheers.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jerix on Oct 25, 2004 at 02:32 PM
yeah! rebel, not all the time 2 speakers hooked in one channel is better --  ;) just like when u have small room --- Laverne's problem is how to power up a big room of 33 sqm, i have a 36sqm room so it seems parehas ang problema nya sa akin noon. Introducing additional speakers is only one of the many possible approaches to the problem--  :) Having a big sub will also do the trick sometimes...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: rebelsage on Oct 25, 2004 at 06:18 PM
my apologies, jerix, for not following the entire thread.  you're right, of course.  cheers.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Laverne Enoch on Oct 26, 2004 at 12:11 PM
Wow ang galing ng mga suggestions nyo at i cant believe it na may mga taong nag bibigay ng share without charging a single cent.Alam nyo naman ang consultation fee, mahal...Anyway, i will to study all of your suggestions and mga brothers na nag inquire sa HT ko,pasensya na hold ko muna, if not effective yung gagawin kong additional speakers.Post ko na lang ulit dito.

Thank you very much talaga..i love this web site..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: vimperial on Oct 31, 2004 at 01:57 PM
ot lang po...

how do you set the memory guard off?  the receiver is v620?

thanks..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mac_daddy on Nov 01, 2004 at 02:31 AM
If i remember it correctly, punta ka sa menu tapos punta ka sa options, makikita mo dun yung memory guard.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: moks on Nov 03, 2004 at 09:16 AM
does anyone have a review on the yamaha rx-v350? ok ba yun? kindly post your comments na lang...medyo dun nakaset yung budget eh...thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Nov 03, 2004 at 11:06 AM
does anyone have a review on the yamaha rx-v350? ok ba yun? kindly post your comments na lang...medyo dun nakaset yung budget eh...thanks.

I think it would be better to look for a Yamaha 440 instead of the 350. Why? The 350 is just a 5 Channel amp, at around the same price, you get a 6 Channel amp with the 440, Dolby EX and DTS ES, Neo:6. If you couldn't find one na brand new(costs about 13.5K), look in the buy and sell section, somebody is selling their 440 for just 12K, baka negotiable pa yan. Just trying to help.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: moks on Nov 03, 2004 at 12:54 PM
i think mas malakas power rating ng rx-v350 since na mas bagong model siya ng yamaha line of audio/video receivers
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Nov 03, 2004 at 02:16 PM
Yes, I would agree since the 450 has a higher power rating than the 440. So , let me lay down your choices for you, the 350: A more powerful amp but has only 5 Channels, Dolby Digital, DTS, or the 440: a less powerful amp but has 6 Channels, Dolby Digital/Digital EX, DTS/DTS ES, Neo:6. Which would be subject to an upgrade sooner? 350? or 440? You decide.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Nov 03, 2004 at 07:16 PM
Based on Yamaha website, the 350 is 90wpc at less than 1%THD @1khz. The 440 is 90wpc at less than 1%THD@1khz. So they are rated the same. Even if you take 440 to have lower power, say 75wpc, this will make a total of 6 ch x 75wpc = 450watts against 350 with 5ch x 90 = 450watts. Since you can operate your 6-ch to a 5-ch, then your 440 at 450watts total can be divided into 5ch of 90watts (same level of 350). but as I have said, Yamaha site published same 90wpc for both models - though you should be aware that this is not the case as if all 5 channels will crank 90watts all at the same time.

A quick look at the total power consumption of 440 reveals it is only 270w. My RX-V630 with total rating of 290watts can only pump 37.5wpc to 6ch (total of 225watts) simultaneously. I would assume the 440 pumps lesser than this (approx 35wpc x 6ch = 210), and same with 350.

Thus, if I operate my 630 into 5ch, I can get 225/5 or 45wpc. At 4ch, it will kick 56wpc. and so on.

If you dont see any use for the rear channel, then go 350. if you do, get 440. they are just the same in the power rating. Get 450 if you can. If not, get 440. 350 maybe the last choice.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Nov 04, 2004 at 01:57 PM
Just a thought:  I have RXV-550 rated at 90 watts X 6 into 8 ohms for total 540 watts power.  Now, if I dont use the center rear, will the total power goes down to only 90 watts X 5 = 450 watts?  What will happen to the unused 90 watts power of the center rear?  Does this power is divided and used by the 5 active channels in use?  Or does the unused center rear channel simply rest it power output and remain idle?  Please clarify, thanks.

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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Nov 04, 2004 at 04:50 PM
Just a thought:  I have RXV-550 rated at 90 watts X 6 into 8 ohms for total 540 watts power.  Now, if I dont use the center rear, will the total power goes down to only 90 watts X 5 = 450 watts?  What will happen to the unused 90 watts power of the center rear?  Does this power is divided and used by the 5 active channels in use?  Or does the unused center rear channel simply rest it power output and remain idle?  Please clarify, thanks.

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I doubt your 550 can reach 90wpc into 6channels simultaneously (maximum). Look at the power consumption of your 550 at the back - it does not even rated past 300watts - perhaps 280 watts. If I assume the rest of 550 circuitry consumes as much as each channel of amplification, then at most your 550 will perform 280w/7 = 40watts per channel into 6 channels (total of 240watts, the other 40watts goes to other processing). If you opt not to use rear center, then you can compute it as 240w/5ch or about 48wpc. if you operate in 4-ch with phantom center, you end up with 60wpc (240/4).

At 2-channel, it can pump up to about 105wpc only (not 240/2 or 120wpc) if you have to maintain THD of less than 1%.

What we are talking here is maximum possible power. Even if you pump 6 channels, chances are that you are not even near the 280watts, unless medyo defective no yung human faculties natin.  ;D Of course, how much more if you dont use rear center.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Nov 09, 2004 at 06:40 PM
...I doubt your 550 can reach 90wpc into 6channels simultaneously (maximum). Look at the power consumption of your 550 at the back - it does not even rated past 300watts...

hmmm...  ganun ba yun?  Can we really relate the AC power wattage consumption rating at the back v/s the rated audio power wattage?!?  So, ibig ba sabihin kung ilan yung AC wattage rating sa likod ganun din ang audio power wattage ng amp?  Kala ko kasi yung rating sa likod ay "power consumption" in watts ng amp.  Panu kung efficient yung design ng circuit nung amp, I think it can deliver high power audio output kahit mababa lang ang power consumption nya di ba?  In the case kasi nung 550 ko I do feel na naidedeliver nya talaga yung claimed na 90 watts/ch power output, although wala akong test equipment to prove it pero mararamdaman mo naman sa performance on how it drives the speakers, no straining at all kahit approaching 0db na yung volume.

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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jerix on Nov 10, 2004 at 07:29 AM
haha! if this is really true, so i should be very happy with my "not so loved by many" receiver because though it claims 120 w x 6 max power, its power consumption is 990 w.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 10, 2004 at 11:00 AM


hmmm...  ganun ba yun?  Can we really relate the AC power wattage consumption rating at the back v/s the rated audio power wattage?!?  So, ibig ba sabihin kung ilan yung AC wattage rating sa likod ganun din ang audio power wattage ng amp?  Kala ko kasi yung rating sa likod ay "power consumption" in watts ng amp.  Panu kung efficient yung design ng circuit nung amp, I think it can deliver high power audio output kahit mababa lang ang power consumption nya di ba?  In the case kasi nung 550 ko I do feel na naidedeliver nya talaga yung claimed na 90 watts/ch power output, although wala akong test equipment to prove it pero mararamdaman mo naman sa performance on how it drives the speakers, no straining at all kahit approaching 0db na yung volume.

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There's one immutable law in the universe that says, in layman's terms,  you cannot give out more that what you took in.  That applies to machines, electonic and mechanical.  The audio power output cannot, never, exceed the electric power consumption.  With class A/B amplifier configuration in almost ALL consumer receivers and amps, the efficiency is about the same across all amplifiers - typically around 50% to 60%.  The rest is wasted in the form of heat.  (The heat is actually enormous.  The heat sinks feel less because the heat is spread over a wider surface area.)  You normally would have to consider preamp/processor/tuner consumption as well, small at around 30 watts.  So starting with power consumption of 300 watts, it can give at most 180watts RMS combined for all channels driven at full bandwidth into 8 ohms (less preamp/tuner consumption = 150watts). So if this were a 5-channel amp, that's 30watts per channel.   

But don't think lowly of 30watts.  Most typical and comfortable listening volumes in a typical 16sqm room won't even exceed 3 watts per channel. 5 watts per channel would already be loud.   They're often in the 2-3 watt level.  Depending also on the speaker sensitivity.  If your speaker has a typical sensitivity of 90db/1watt/1m, a 1 watt amp output would be loud enough even at 2 meters from the speaker, that's 84db.  Check out the thread on amp power vs decibels.  0db on your volume often represents the amp's rated continuous RMS beyond which clipping starts.  So if it's 30 watts, that's very loud indeed.   
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on Nov 10, 2004 at 11:09 AM
Look at Harman Kardon 330

7 x 55watts yet it consume 890W maximum (7 channels driven).



Jerix,

You have Pioneer right? Didn't know that newer models now consume more power.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Fox Mulder on Nov 10, 2004 at 01:01 PM
mga guru,

saan po a ina adjust yung cross over frequency ng Yamaha RX-V440? Yung crossover frequency ba ay cut off frequency din kung tawagin?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: losi_phile on Nov 10, 2004 at 01:32 PM
On the issue of power rating, this link may help.  It gave the power rating of Yamaha RX-V450/650 in 8Ohms (2 Channels/All Channels) and 4Ohms (2 Channels/All Channels)

RX-V450 : http://www.homecinemachoice.com/cgi-bin/displayreview.php?reviewid=4686


RX-V650 : http://www.homecinemachoice.com/cgi-bin/displayreview.php?reviewid=4719

RX-V750 Group Test ??? : http://www.homecinemachoice.com/cgi-bin/displayreview.php?reviewid=4569


Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Nov 10, 2004 at 02:05 PM
mga guru,

saan po a ina adjust yung cross over frequency ng Yamaha RX-V440? Yung crossover frequency ba ay cut off frequency din kung tawagin?

The 440 doesn't have a frequency adjustment function. It is permanently set at 90 Hz.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 10, 2004 at 02:37 PM
On the issue of power rating, this link may help.  It gave the power rating of Yamaha RX-V450/650 in 8Ohms (2 Channels/All Channels) and 4Ohms (2 Channels/All Channels)

RX-V450 : http://www.homecinemachoice.com/cgi-bin/displayreview.php?reviewid=4686


RX-V650 : http://www.homecinemachoice.com/cgi-bin/displayreview.php?reviewid=4719

RX-V750 Group Test ??? : http://www.homecinemachoice.com/cgi-bin/displayreview.php?reviewid=4569




Interesting sites.  They proves beyond a doubt which brands do a CONSERVATIVE power rating.  The PDF file for the 750SE  caution that Yamaha's rating is for 2 channels driven and that the "output drops when more channels are dirven simultaneously."  Very true.  The NAD and HK models indicate their power rating with ALL channels driven, while the others are for stereo only.  This is actually my concern about having a level-playing field when comparing different brand of amps and receivers in terms of power.  The unwary consumer would most likely remember the 100watts per channel advertising banner and not the fine print that says "2-channels only."  He would then conclude that that's the rating for each channel, so he feels falsely confident he's getting a 100wpc HT reciever.   And he'll wonder why an HK or some other brand CONSERVATIVELY rated at half that, can sound just as powerful.   :(

Let me get this straight though, I'm no basher of this or that brand, my caveat is simply focused on some creative power ratings as published by  some brands to gain market share that makes a level playing field for direct spect-to-spec comparison difficult, if not impossible.  Nothing to do with sound quality or other features. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Fox Mulder on Nov 10, 2004 at 02:38 PM


The 440 doesn't have a frequency adjustment function. It is permanently set at 90 Hz.  ;D

sinasabi ko na nga ba e, kaya pala nagkanda duling duling nako kakahanap sa manuala e ala ako makita :o

thanks boss art, so I guess the next logical Q would be......ano dapat ang freq cut off setting ko sa sub ko?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on Nov 10, 2004 at 02:46 PM
I suggest set it to 100Hz. Or 90Hz if you want.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Nov 10, 2004 at 02:49 PM


sinasabi ko na nga ba e, kaya pala nagkanda duling duling nako kakahanap sa manuala e ala ako makita :o

thanks boss art, so I guess the next logical Q would be......ano dapat ang freq cut off setting ko sa sub ko?

It's actually in the manual, somewhere at the bottom left of that particular page, post tomorrow what page. The manual says set the sub at the highest frequency cut off. I would agree with that, you can set it at any cut off you want, as long as you don't go lower than 90 Hz.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Fox Mulder on Nov 10, 2004 at 02:56 PM
thanks again Art and Philander, pero bakit parang nabasa ko sa subwoofer thread na dapat daw mas lower yung freq setting ng sub compared to that of the avr's? ex. kung 100Hz sa avr, dapat mga 70Hz sa sub? also saan ba dapat nakaset yung phase switch sa sub 0 or 180 degres?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jerix on Nov 10, 2004 at 03:01 PM

Jerix,

You have Pioneer right? Didn't know that newer models now consume more power.

Bro Phil, its manual says it so for this particular Singapore Multi-volt model. The European model i think is 290 w only
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 10, 2004 at 03:05 PM


sinasabi ko na nga ba e, kaya pala nagkanda duling duling nako kakahanap sa manuala e ala ako makita :o

thanks boss art, so I guess the next logical Q would be......ano dapat ang freq cut off setting ko sa sub ko?


There's no hard and fast rule on what crossover is best.  THX recommends anywhere from 80hz to 120hz, if not mistaken.  Other than that, it depends on what the main speakers and subwoofers are capable of delivering and how they sound together.  The objective is always to get a seamless transition of frequencies between your main speakers and the sub so that a flat amplitude response across 20hz to 20khz is obtained at your listening position with both sub and main speakers sounding.

If the main speakers can deliver down to 50hz -3db, that would be the theoretical crossover point to your sub.  Theoretical, as you can make further adjustment + or - based on your listening preference and your room accoustics.

However, engaging your yamnha receiver's bass management circuit will automatically set the crossover to 90hz (if that's the fixed setting)  and route frequencies 90hz and above to your main speakers and the rest to your subs.  If your receiver's speaker setting is set to LARGE, all the bandwidth will be delivered to your main speakers, allowing them to sound their natural fall-offs below their -3db points.  But setting them to large might disable the sub out.  Some receivers don't.  If it doesn't, good.  Then the sub will receive frequencies 90hz and below and you can adjust the sub's crossover point lower to dovetail that of your main speakers' -3db point.  When you do that, the sub and the main speakers will both be deliverng 90hz, so a peaking might occur at that frequency and adjacent frequencies.  So it is customary to have a lower crossover setting for the sub.  Then again, if your room mode produces a near-null conditiion at the crossover point, you may have to increase the sub's crossover point higher than 90hz.  Many variables, your ears at your listening position will have to decde.   ;D


Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 10, 2004 at 03:25 PM
thanks again Art and Philander, pero bakit parang nabasa ko sa subwoofer thread na dapat daw mas lower yung freq setting ng sub compared to that of the avr's? ex. kung 100Hz sa avr, dapat mga 70Hz sa sub? also saan ba dapat nakaset yung phase switch sa sub 0 or 180 degres?

There are certain conditions that may require you to set the sub's crossover lower than what the AVR has.  Setting the reciever's speaker setting to LARGE is one of them.

See my post above. 

It all depends on your room's bass response, too.  If there's a percieved boominess at the crossover points and adjacent to it, you may have to lower the sub's crossover point away from the peaks.  Remember that the main speakers and the subs would be delivering the same frequencies around the crossover points. Even if they are at -3db points, if the room mode enhances these frequencies, you may have to lower the crossover point on the sub. 

In my case, I set the speakers to LARGE, feeding them the entire bandwidth and letting them sound off down to their natural -3db points which is 50hz.  My preamp has an LFE setting selected at 80hz, its lowest.  But I lowered the sub's crossover setting down to 45hz so it won't deliver the same frequencies as the main speakers above 45hz.  You may think I have a 5hz HOLE, not really, my room is peaking at around 50hz anyway according to my ears.   ;D  Room modes are standing wave points that can result in bass peaks and cancellations most evident below 300hz and is based exclusively on room dimensions. You can check this site to calculate your room mode:

http://www.mcsquared.com/metricmodes.htm

Mr room dimensions confirm an axial standing wave at 49hz.  Room Modes are important considerations in equalziing the room for flat bass response.  Around 300hz and above, the absorptive, diffractive and reflective qualities of the room overcome room mode considerations. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Fox Mulder on Nov 10, 2004 at 04:13 PM
WOW!!!!ang galing naman sir AV. Thanks for your help guys!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Nov 11, 2004 at 09:44 AM
Bro Fox,
You know I was gonna say the same thing Sir AV did, but, as always, I couldn't have found a better way to say it than he did, or for that matter, as he always does. God bless.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bassmgr on Nov 11, 2004 at 03:34 PM
WOW!!!!ang galing naman sir AV. Thanks for your help guys!!!! ;D

This is in addition to Sir AV’s valuable suggestion para sa mga mababa ang wife acceptance factor where you cant modify your room interior design dahil ayaw ni misis. In my case, wala pang misis pero restricted din bcoz of room space; I set my main speaker to large since it is bass capable speakers and my crossover setting is 60hz. Like Sir AV, I set my subwoofer LPF setting down to 40hz. The reason why the crossover setting of my receiver was set to 60HZ (luckily my choice of receiver permits me to manage bass frequency considering that when I acquired my system, I have insufficient knowledge with this hobby) is to utilize the full bandwidth of my main speakers. If you have non-bass capable speaker I suggest you set it to small and the crossover frequency should be set to 80HZ, which is the recommended setting of DD & THX. For my subwoofer LPF setting, I set it lower than my AVR crossover setting in order to make my sub non-localizable and musical. This avoids bass doubling at frequencies typical of common room modes. The crossover setting of the subwoofer often needs to be adjusted below 80 Hz, especially for critical two-channel listening. Usually the phase setting of sub is used to reversed the phase of the subwoofer by 180deg. This is useful when the receiver subwoofer output is electrically out of phase with the speaker outputs to avoid bass hole (bass frequency canceling) where your system do not produce low frequency signal due to the added group delay of the cascaded filters from the receiver and subwoofer. I suggest to set it to zero and adjust it when it is noticeable that your system does not produce low frequency signal (of course you need to find first the optimum placement of your sub). Sa akin si utol ang taga adjust (starting from zero) while im in the listening position. Ehehehehehehe
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: narzimus on Nov 15, 2004 at 09:23 AM
mga bosing san po ba makakabili ng murang 650 model>?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Nov 15, 2004 at 11:57 AM
Try Ambassador Greenhills, I think mas mura dun. I got mine for 25K at Audioworld.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Control on Nov 16, 2004 at 11:08 AM
mga bosing san po ba makakabili ng murang 650 model>?

Ambassador would be a good choice...  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: narzimus on Nov 16, 2004 at 01:51 PM
tnx mga friend.
Anong branch ng Ambassador ba malapit sa cavite.
Meron ba sa park square? kung meron, san po don?
limited lang kze time ko para mag audition ng HT.
Maraming salamat po sa iyong lhat?
Rxv 650 or HK 230?
I cant decide right now. pls help...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Nov 16, 2004 at 03:18 PM
tnx mga friend.
Anong branch ng Ambassador ba malapit sa cavite.
Meron ba sa park square? kung meron, san po don?
limited lang kze time ko para mag audition ng HT.
Maraming salamat po sa iyong lhat?
Rxv 650 or HK 230?
I cant decide right now. pls help...

AFAIK, HKs have great quality amplifiers. But what I like about Yamaha receivers is the CinemaDSP feature that is unique to Yamaha, you can learn more about it at their website. And with the 650, you get 7 Channels, I'm not so sure about how many channels the HK 230 has. Obvious ba na Yamaha fan ako? hehehe. But I'm objective enough naman to say that HKs have better amps in their receivers than Yamahas. ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Control on Nov 16, 2004 at 03:30 PM
tnx mga friend.
Anong branch ng Ambassador ba malapit sa cavite.
Meron ba sa park square? kung meron, san po don?
limited lang kze time ko para mag audition ng HT.
Maraming salamat po sa iyong lhat?
Rxv 650 or HK 230?
I cant decide right now. pls help...

Meron sa Park Square...   ;) Here's to help you... Yamaha = 60HT/40 Audio, HK = 50 HT/50 Audio.. Now if you're planning to have a separate set-up for HT and Audio, I suggest you get a Yamaha for your HT and have either a solid state or Tube Amp for your audio setup..

You can also try and visit Watt HI-FI sa Makati Cinema Square.. Naka-promo yata yung 650 dun...  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: zakkaz on Nov 16, 2004 at 05:46 PM
tnx mga friend.
Anong branch ng Ambassador ba malapit sa cavite.
Meron ba sa park square? kung meron, san po don?
limited lang kze time ko para mag audition ng HT.
Maraming salamat po sa iyong lhat?
Rxv 650 or HK 230?
I cant decide right now. pls help...
for me, hk is more powerful than yammy
try to audition both brands so that you'll be able to compare and differentiate the two
if you want try to drop by spectra @ parksquare 1 n look for jim
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Nov 17, 2004 at 09:25 AM
I second the motion, sir narz, that's what I meant with better amps, more clean power.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Nov 17, 2004 at 12:56 PM
tnx mga friend.
Anong branch ng Ambassador ba malapit sa cavite.
Meron ba sa park square? kung meron, san po don?
limited lang kze time ko para mag audition ng HT.
Maraming salamat po sa iyong lhat?
Rxv 650 or HK 230?
I cant decide right now. pls help...

650 and 230 offers you more flexibility in your future upgrade, and can even give you more options to have higher power for whatever reason you have in your head. They have pre-outs where you can integrate any type of amps or higher rated power amps. The 650 has more interesting vanilla features (their unique DSPs simulating interesting music performance venue without doing anything in your listening room) - the only reasons left why you would choose 650 over 230. If technology change (in surround processing) - your later upgrade is just a player with built-in decoders for multiple channels, and use 5.1 or 7.1 input of the av gear. Power output is basically the same. Quality of sound - well, your source material, player, speaker, cable and your ear will determine the answer to this question. Some people will give you a glimpse how it is in their setup but these glimpses may just be a fraction relevant or none at all in your setup.

This is to add for your confusions!  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Nov 17, 2004 at 01:17 PM
Just surfed the web, and I could OBJECTIVELY say that if I were to choose between a Yamaha RX-V650 and a Harman/Kardon AVR230, I'd go for the Yamaha. Just me, though.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: narzimus on Nov 17, 2004 at 01:18 PM
tnx bro
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Nov 17, 2004 at 01:56 PM
Just surfed the web, and I could OBJECTIVELY say that if I were to choose between a Yamaha RX-V650 and a Harman/Kardon AVR230, I'd go for the Yamaha. Just me, though.  :)

If the RX-V660 comes out and the 650 fetches 19k price, without surfing the web, will take 650 myself! Of course, have 6-ch GC as part of the acquisition program ;D

Buti na lang I am not buying any since am very satisfied with my 630 as pre/pro!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hunnyko on Nov 19, 2004 at 07:15 AM
Where could I buy the most affodable 650? Are they compatible with wharf diamond 9s?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Control on Nov 19, 2004 at 07:22 AM
Where could I buy the most affodable 650? Are they compatible with wharf diamond 9s?

You can try and audition at Spectra (Park Square) look for Jim (8185493) or Watt HIFI (Makati Cinema Square) look for Carlos or Elmo (8111883)  ;)

YES! Wharfdales are compatible with Yamaha.. actually Yamaha & Wharfdale is my current set-up..  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hunnyko on Nov 19, 2004 at 08:17 AM
Hi Control,

Thanks, for the contact numbers...may I know what specifically is your yamaha-wharf setup? Any comment
o your setup, I'm planning to buy a 605 with diamond 9s?  what can you say or should i look for another
setup.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Control on Nov 19, 2004 at 08:37 AM
Hi Control,

Thanks, for the contact numbers...may I know what specifically is your yamaha-wharf setup? Any comment
o your setup, I'm planning to buy a 605 with diamond 9s?  what can you say or should i look for another
setup.

Cheers.

Yamaha rx-v650
Diamond 8 center
Diamond 8.1
Diamond 8.3

Your Set-up will depend upon you...It's either you have a separate set-up for HT and Audio. But, if you want to combine both worlds (HT & Audio) using Wharf, I suggest using HK instead (kaso dagdag fund ito  ;)) ..  Audition first before you buy...  ;) Coz people have different tastes .... But if you'll ask me about my set-up, well, I am very satisfied with my current HT set-up..

Here's a copied post from one of the Guru's here:

Budget level
HK/Wharfs - Budget setup for 50/50 HT and Audio
Yamaha/Wharfs - Mas budget setup kaso 70/30 HT and Audio


Medyo napamahal lang ng konti pero mga all rounder naman
HK/B&W
HK/MA
HK/AE
HK/MIssion

Hope this helps... Good Luck!!! :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Compaq on Nov 19, 2004 at 08:46 AM
Where could I buy the most affodable 650? Are they compatible with wharf diamond 9s?

Hi hunnyko,

You may also want to visit The Home Theater and look for Sonny (812-52-35).

Cheers!!!
Compaq
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: zakkaz on Nov 19, 2004 at 11:09 AM
Where could I buy the most affodable 650? Are they compatible with wharf diamond 9s?
try going to spectra @ parksquare 1
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Nov 19, 2004 at 04:04 PM
Where could I buy the most affodable 650? Are they compatible with wharf diamond 9s?

AFAIK, Ambassador Greenhills usually has the lowest prices. Got mine from Audioworld for 25K, baka mas mura dun sa Ambassador, try mo lang, then let me know din. TIA.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 19, 2004 at 05:17 PM
gasgas na but still worth mentioning sir, let your own preference guide you, kaya aside from the price, audition also (extensively if you can) and from there you decide.

price wise id go for the yamaha

performance and flexibility (combining audio with ht) HK, but a word of caution though you can never incorporate audio with your HT set-up, not unless youll planning to upgrade your entire HT system to be utmost versatile (sacd, concert dvds, etc.)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jeckjeck on Nov 19, 2004 at 05:40 PM
gasgas na but still worth mentioning sir, let your own preference guide you, kaya aside from the price, audition also (extensively if you can) and from there you decide.

price wise id go for the yamaha

performance and flexibility (combining audio with ht) HK, but a word of caution though you can never incorporate audio with your HT set-up, not unless youll planning to upgrade your entire HT system to be utmost versatile (sacd, concert dvds, etc.)

Sir wanderlust, OT lang pero how did you attach your "dancers?" Kakaaliw eh
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Nov 20, 2004 at 10:20 AM
gasgas na but still worth mentioning sir, let your own preference guide you, kaya aside from the price, audition also (extensively if you can) and from there you decide.

price wise id go for the yamaha

performance and flexibility (combining audio with ht) HK, but a word of caution though you can never incorporate audio with your HT set-up, not unless youll planning to upgrade your entire HT system to be utmost versatile (sacd, concert dvds, etc.)

Feature-wise, will go Yamaha
Price-wise, will go Yamaha
Users and Audio/HT reviews, will go Yamaha
Soundwise, go your way
Flexibility, strategize your way

My 630 is used for both HT and music. 630 amp is used for HT. Outboard (more powerful amp), connected to 630 pre-outs is for music.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wanderlust on Nov 22, 2004 at 02:32 PM
sir jeck,

as you would usually attach a pic here sir, but this time doing it in your profile section.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jeckjeck on Nov 22, 2004 at 06:34 PM
sir jeck,

as you would usually attach a pic here sir, but this time doing it in your profile section.

Okay... sinubuka ko kasi before pero lumalabas yung address nung link to the file eh not the inage itself plus walang option to Insert Image sa profiles like we have her sa forum... Must have done something wrong... Subukan ko na lang uli... Salamat sir!  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: narzimus on Nov 28, 2004 at 07:42 PM
Mga bro tnx for your suggestion on what to choose bet yammy and HK.
I bought yamaha 650 coz im in to HT.
Sulit ang yammy 650 for 23.5k.
I bought it sa ambasador park square1.
YAMAHA ROCKS!!!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Nov 29, 2004 at 11:10 PM
Ur right, narzimus!  Yamaha550 naman ang sa akin at ang ganda nya pang-HT!  Currently viewing Band of Brothers series at naging war zone ang HT room ko!  This Yamaha really delivers the claimed output power!  Excellent din itong pang karaoke using Karavision player, voice mixer, 12-inch 3-way main speakers and Shure SM58 microphone and set the Yammy to Concert Hall DSP; grabe ang ganda ng boses ko dito, hehehe!

Ü
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Control on Nov 30, 2004 at 06:58 AM
Mga bro tnx for your suggestion on what to choose bet yammy and HK.
I bought yamaha 650 coz im in to HT.
Sulit ang yammy 650 for 23.5k.
I bought it sa ambasador park square1.
YAMAHA ROCKS!!!

Nice Choice there Sir.. Malakas talaga yang 650  ;D Congrats Sir! What speakers did you pair your 650 with?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: garee on Nov 30, 2004 at 08:49 AM
@fnvillafuerte: how much did u get your 550? and where?
nagtanong ako wala na stock ng 550 puro 450 at 640 na lang, kaya most like if all goes to plan (fingers crossed) i'm incline into buying the 450.

what can you say about the x50 series of yamaha now, are there really improvements?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Nov 30, 2004 at 12:15 PM
@fnvillafuerte: how much did u get your 550? and where?
nagtanong ako wala na stock ng 550 puro 450 at 640 na lang, kaya most like if all goes to plan (fingers crossed) i'm incline into buying the 450.

what can you say about the x50 series of yamaha now, are there really improvements?

Certainly an improvement on the x40 series. Feature-wise and Power-wise.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Nov 30, 2004 at 03:24 PM
@fnvillafuerte: how much did u get your 550? and where?
nagtanong ako wala na stock ng 550 puro 450 at 640 na lang, kaya most like if all goes to plan (fingers crossed) i'm incline into buying the 450......

19,800 pesos sa Ambassador Greenhills.  Get at least yung 550 or higher model, don't settle for less konti lang naman matitipid mo.  Sa Ambassador 15,800 pesos yung 450.  Try mo sa Electronic Depot Robinson's Manila nakita ko kagabi nakadisplay yung 450, 550, 650 and 750,  di ko nga lang naitanong price kasi ngayun ko lang nabasa post mo.  Gud luck sa purchase mo!

Ü
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: narzimus on Nov 30, 2004 at 11:14 PM
Control,

    Sir pioneer s-hs88f ( 160w L&R 8ohms floorstanding)
         pioneer s-hs88c (160w Center )
         pioneer s-hs88r  ( 160w sorround L&R )
         konzert subs 200w
    wla pa po akong SB L&R and pair of precense.

old speaker ko yon paired it sa dati kong pioneer avr.

narzi
       
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Alo on Dec 01, 2004 at 06:02 AM
Efilnikcufecin ,

I'm newbies here also in HT, i'm just curious sa bago mong Unit, Plano ko rin ksing bumili and i'm choosing yamaha too. Sir what's included sa 23K is it only the 650?

thnk u.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Control on Dec 01, 2004 at 06:28 AM
Efilnikcufecin ,

I'm newbies here also in HT, i'm just curious sa bago mong Unit, Plano ko rin ksing bumili and i'm choosing yamaha too. Sir what's included sa 23K is it only the 650?

thnk u.

Yep, 23k is the price of the reciever (Yamaha 650) only.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Control on Dec 01, 2004 at 06:30 AM
Control,

    Sir pioneer s-hs88f ( 160w L&R 8ohms floorstanding)
         pioneer s-hs88c (160w Center )
         pioneer s-hs88r  ( 160w sorround L&R )
         konzert subs 200w
    wla pa po akong SB L&R and pair of precense.

old speaker ko yon paired it sa dati kong pioneer avr.

narzi
       

That set-up will do Sir...unless you want to bring your house down..  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: narzimus on Dec 03, 2004 at 10:25 AM
Control,

          what speaker can u recommend to me . im planning to upgrade next year.
     how much budget ang pagiipunan ko...?

tnx,
narzi
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: narzimus on Dec 03, 2004 at 10:30 AM
Alo,

    As what control have said.. its plainly AVR. 23.5k sa ambassador park square1.

narzi
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Dec 03, 2004 at 10:45 AM
Bro Narz,
The amount na dapat mong pag-ipunan is going to depend on just where you set the limits for yourself, then maybe a little bit above that. Like, just how much are you willing to pay for a pair of tower speakers? Say, 8,000? 5,000? Once you've set that limit, the time would then come to choose between your options. It's all about the budget, bro.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: narzimus on Dec 03, 2004 at 12:33 PM
Dj Art,

Its always been the "BUDGET". hehehe... (sulit naman! )

hirap mag-ipon....

Narzi

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Control on Dec 04, 2004 at 10:36 PM
Control,

          what speaker can u recommend to me . im planning to upgrade next year.
     how much budget ang pagiipunan ko...?

tnx,
narzi

Sir, you can try wharfedale 9 series....as for the subs, any decent 12" will do fine.  Approximately around 20-25k...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 05, 2004 at 08:34 PM
Control,

          what speaker can u recommend to me . im planning to upgrade next year.
     how much budget ang pagiipunan ko...?

tnx,
narzi

Why need to upgrade ayos naman speaker mo for HT... I suggest how about speaker for your separate 2 channel audio setup.. ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Control on Dec 05, 2004 at 09:14 PM


Why need to upgrade ayos naman speaker mo for HT... I suggest how about speaker for your separate 2 channel audio setup.. ;D

Go master go...go SARS go...  >:D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Dec 06, 2004 at 10:42 AM
Dj Art,

Its always been the "BUDGET". hehehe... (sulit naman! )

hirap mag-ipon....

Narzi



So what's your price ceiling for a pair of tower speakers for your fronts? For a pair of bookshelf speakers?
How about for the center? and the sub? Ano ba plano mong unahin? Why not get 2 pairs of bookshelf speakers for your back surrounds and presence muna? Just make sure what you buy would belong in the same series of the other speakers that you'd decide to upgrade to someday. Like, let's say you do decide on the Euros, then get a 2 pairs of Euros for the back surrounds and presence. Just to make sure you don't subject those speakers for another upgrade in the future.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: shuttertrigger on Dec 07, 2004 at 10:43 AM
hi guys, just need your advise. Anyone of the members here tried the Yamaha 350 pair with wharfs 8.3/8.4 speakers? Hows the performance in HT and Audio? I have been at Listening Room Megamall yesterday and saw the yam350 at 12k.. is it good combine with wharfs for HT and Audio? im 50/50 audio/Ht kasi...thanks in advance for any feedback... :D

cire
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Dec 07, 2004 at 11:17 AM
hi guys, just need your advise. Anyone of the members here tried the Yamaha 350 pair with wharfs 8.3/8.4 speakers? Hows the performance in HT and Audio? I have been at Listening Room Megamall yesterday and saw the yam350 at 12k.. is it good combine with wharfs for HT and Audio? im 50/50 audio/Ht kasi...thanks in advance for any feedback... :D

cire

We all know that Yamahas are a bit weak on Audio. Yamahas are more like 60/40 or even 70/30. But I wouldn't suggest getting a 350, you're much better off with a 450 or at least a 440. Just me, though.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 07, 2004 at 11:50 AM
Among mass consumer HT elecrtonics, I'd shy away from entry level stuff if I can.  Don't get me wrong, they're fine for newbies.  But they'll give you an itch to upgrade a lot sooner than you plan.  Whether due to power or DSP features or some flexibility issues.  In general, these entry level electronics have limited power and features further handicapped with little or no upgrade options, no pre-outs for higher power,  no main-in for better preamp features, no firmware upgrades for new formats.  In short, they're pretty much disposables once you tire of them after a few months.   Worst, they can't command a good resale tag.   If the price difference is not insurmountable, meaning you can save up within a reasonable time, I'd start with a mid-level model.  But that's just me.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Dec 07, 2004 at 12:11 PM
To elaborate on what Sir AV said, the Yamaha 350 is only a 5 channel amp, not even EX/ES compatible. And believe me, the itch to upgrade very soon cannot be denied. The price of the 350, to my knowledge is even lower than the older 440, since the 440 is obviously more future ready. The price difference between a 350 and a 450 is about 5K more or less, and the price difference between a 350 and a 440 is about 1.5K. And teh difference between the 440 and the 450 is just power, DACs and ProLogic IIx. But believe me when I say, the difference will be worth it.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: shuttertrigger on Dec 07, 2004 at 07:33 PM
thanks sir arthurallanj and sir av_phile. i just save my money to HK. konting tiis pa siguro to eliminate upgrades. on my case, i was settled for HK, but then when i heard 350 there was a bit of change on my mind. but through your inputs guys, i guess i would stick to HK na talaga. probably this early january...ok talaga dto sa pinoy may tulungan... ;D thanks again mga sirs  :D

cire
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jdg on Dec 07, 2004 at 11:43 PM
so wala pa lang dd and dts decoder yung yamaha rx-v350 pero yung rx-v450 meron? btw magkano ba ang rx-v450? ???

RX-V350
http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/products/ht/rxv350.html

RX-V450
http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/products/ht/rxv450.html

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Dec 08, 2004 at 11:04 AM
so wala pa lang dd and dts decoder yung yamaha rx-v350 pero yung rx-v450 meron? btw magkano ba ang rx-v450? ???

RX-V350
http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/products/ht/rxv350.html

RX-V450
http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/products/ht/rxv450.html



The 350 has DD/DTS decoding capabilities, but since it's a 5 channel amp, it cannot decode DD-EX/DTS-ES. The 350 costs about 12K++, the 450, about 17K.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Dec 08, 2004 at 11:14 AM
thanks sir arthurallanj and sir av_phile. i just save my money to HK. konting tiis pa siguro to eliminate upgrades. on my case, i was settled for HK, but then when i heard 350 there was a bit of change on my mind. but through your inputs guys, i guess i would stick to HK na talaga. probably this early january...ok talaga dto sa pinoy may tulungan... ;D thanks again mga sirs  :D

cire

Bro, anong model ba at magkano ang HK na plano mong bilhin?  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jdg on Dec 08, 2004 at 01:35 PM
so ok lang yung rxv350 kung 5.1 lang ang hanap ko and entry level(budget) setup lang ang gagawin ko, btw pioneer 270 lang ang player ko ok ba ito i pair with the rxv350? how about yung yamaha rxv440 halos pareho lang sila ng rxv450 ng features magkano kaya ito? :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Dec 08, 2004 at 01:46 PM
so ok lang yung rxv350 kung 5.1 lang ang hanap ko and entry level(budget) setup lang ang gagawin ko, btw pioneer 270 lang ang player ko ok ba ito i pair with the rxv350? how about yung yamaha rxv440 halos pareho lang sila ng rxv450 ng features magkano kaya ito? :)

The 440 costs around 13.5K. The difference in features nila are the 450 has higher power, has prologic IIx, and has 192/24 dacs. Konting difference lang naman, both have DTS neo:6 naman e.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jdg on Dec 08, 2004 at 02:02 PM
mas better buy pala yung 440 instead of the 350 kasi konti lang naman difference nila sa price pero mas lamang sa features yung 440? btw ok bang match sa 350/440 yung wharfedale diamond 8.1/8.3 or dai-ichi euro8 na speakers? thanks sir!  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Dec 08, 2004 at 02:19 PM
mas better buy pala yung 440 instead of the 350 kasi konti lang naman difference nila sa price pero mas lamang sa features yung 440? btw ok bang match sa 350/440 yung wharfedale diamond 8.1/8.3 or dai-ichi euro8 na speakers? thanks sir!  ;D

I'd suggest a Yamaha 440 and Euros 8/Daiichi set up. Daiichis are more sensitive than Wharfes. Since the 440 isn't really a powerful amp, it's best to use the power for reserve rather than just for driving.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Chito C. on Dec 08, 2004 at 02:20 PM
went to daichi lunch time. euros8  pregnant type nga.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Dec 08, 2004 at 02:25 PM
went to daichi lunch time. euros8  pregnant type nga.

Excited na nga ako e. Ang tagal ng bonus kasi, e. Nagpaparinig din c misis na ibibili nya daw ako ng center at bookshelf for Christmas. Ang saya-saya.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jdg on Dec 08, 2004 at 03:10 PM
Quote
rxv350 = 192kHz/24-bit D/A Converters for All Channels
rxv440 =   96Khz/24-bit D/A Converters for All Channels

ano ba ibig sabihin nito?  ???

(95w x 6) yung 440 while yung 350 (110w x 5) so which of the two ba talaga ang best buy? ???
pasensiya na at ang kulit ko wala kasi akong alam sa ht. hehehe!  :(
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Dec 08, 2004 at 04:19 PM
This means that the 350 has faster DACs (Digital to analog Converters), which is not really essential, but makes it more future proof than the 440 when it comes to DACs. And yes, the 350 does have a higher power rating than the 440. But I'd still go with the 440 since the 440 is a 6-channel amp and the 350 isn't. The 440 has DD-EX/DTS-ES, the 350 doesn't. So if there's something you'd want with the 350, it's juust the DAC's, and maybe the power. But that's about it. Best Buy? The Yamaha RX-V440. Bar none.  ;)

With the 450? That's another story.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jdg on Dec 08, 2004 at 04:44 PM
ok na rin ba yung 440 for music? kasi nabasa ko isang thread na may brand pala ng reciever na maganda lang for music or HT. anong brand ba ng entry level receiver ang ok for both music and HT? :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Dec 08, 2004 at 04:52 PM
ok na rin ba yung 440 for music? kasi nabasa ko isang thread na may brand pala ng reciever na maganda lang for music or HT. anong brand ba ng entry level receiver ang ok for both music and HT? :)

Yamaha amps are about 60/40 HT/audio. HK is said said to be 50/50.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Dec 08, 2004 at 04:58 PM
ok na rin ba yung 440 for music? kasi nabasa ko isang thread na may brand pala ng reciever na maganda lang for music or HT. anong brand ba ng entry level receiver ang ok for both music and HT? :)

Flagship models of any brand is very good for both music and movies. Entry-level models specializes on one side only.




Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: narzimus on Dec 08, 2004 at 07:50 PM
DJ Art,

      How much ang budget mo for speaker upgrde mo..?

narzi
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Dec 09, 2004 at 01:14 PM
DJ Art,

      How much ang budget mo for speaker upgrde mo..?

narzi

I'm buying the Euros 8 Towers at 5,560, a Euros 8 Center at 1,650, and the Bookshelf pair at 2,860, I also plan to buy the DTX 4.15 sub at around 8K. That's about 18K all in all, but my kumpare is giving me a 7% discount, so mga 16,800 lang sya. I'm buying the Towers myself and the sub, the wifey will buy the center and the bookshelves. Pero huli na siguro ang sub, baka January na. Ang saya no? He he.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jdg on Dec 09, 2004 at 03:51 PM
which is the better buy in terms of audio and HT capability/sound quality? Yamaha RXV-440 or Marantz SR4400? and btw saan pa ba available yung rxv440 and how much wala na kasi sa electronics depot? btw price ng marantz sr4400 = 13,999  yung yamaha rxv440 = ?  :-\
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Chito C. on Dec 09, 2004 at 04:17 PM
which is the better buy in terms of audio and HT capability/sound quality? Yamaha RXV-440 or Marantz SR4400? and btw saan pa ba available yung rxv440 and how much wala na kasi sa electronics depot? btw price ng marantz sr4400 = 13,999 yung yamaha rxv440 = ? :-\

I've read somewhere that the 400 series of marantz has problems. I am a yammy 440 owner and i bought it at P13.5K. Can't compare the two though.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Dec 09, 2004 at 04:22 PM
which is the better buy in terms of audio and HT capability/sound quality? Yamaha RXV-440 or Marantz SR4400? and btw saan pa ba available yung rxv440 and how much wala na kasi sa electronics depot? btw price ng marantz sr4400 = 13,999  yung yamaha rxv440 = ?  :-\

Try Ambassador Greenhills. The last time I asked 13,500 daw. The Yamaha is superior in terms of HT, the Marantz is superior in terms of audio.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: garee on Dec 09, 2004 at 04:34 PM
do you think that yamaha rx-v450 6.1 avr is a good entry level? enough for you not to upgrade in a year or two...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jdg on Dec 09, 2004 at 06:10 PM
20k+ daw yung rxv450 sa eletronics depot.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: narzimus on Dec 09, 2004 at 07:43 PM
Sir art,

Ganda ng x-mas give mo s sarili mo ah.. & very supportive palang wife mo.. Thats good.
Baka next year na ako mag up-grade ng speakers.. Hirap bitawan speakers ko.. 25K kze. ( Kuripot noh! )

narzi
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: narzimus on Dec 09, 2004 at 07:45 PM
Sir jdg,

Baka kaya pa ng budget mo ang Rxv650. 23.5k ang bigay sakin sa ambassador park square1.

suggestion lang po,
narzi
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jdg on Dec 09, 2004 at 08:17 PM
hindi ko kaya 20k na receiver hanggang 15k lang ako max na yon. first ht setup ko pa naman ito kung papalarin. siguro either rxv440 or marantz sr4400 kaso may overheating and dsp chip problem yata ito ewan ko lang kung kasama yung mga unit na available dito sa atin. ::)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Control on Dec 09, 2004 at 09:09 PM
hindi ko kaya 20k na receiver hanggang 15k lang ako max na yon. first ht setup ko pa naman ito kung papalarin. siguro either rxv440 or marantz sr4400 kaso may overheating and dsp chip problem yata ito ewan ko lang kung kasama yung mga unit na available dito sa atin. ::)

Sir, if you consider using a surplus avr, you might want to try searching the buy and sell section for a decent 440 avr at a very reasonable price.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: narzimus on Dec 10, 2004 at 01:36 AM
Sir jdg,

          Try mo sa pier south if you want a surplus avr.
a friend of mine got his avr @3.5k lang. onkyo 5.1 wala lang knob for volume.

narzi
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Dec 10, 2004 at 11:29 AM
bro jdg,
Try Ambassador, baka dun mas mura, maybe you can get a 450 at 16K+++. Audioworld quoted me 17.7K for the 450. Both th 440 and 450 are great choices, and yes, right now, somebody is selling their 440 at the buy and sell section, baka mas makamura ka pa dun.  ;D

bro garee,
Yes, I think the 450 is a very good amp. One that you wouldn't need to upgrade in a year or two.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Dec 10, 2004 at 11:38 AM
Sir art,

Ganda ng x-mas give mo s sarili mo ah.. & very supportive palang wife mo.. Thats good.
Baka next year na ako mag up-grade ng speakers.. Hirap bitawan speakers ko.. 25K kze. ( Kuripot noh! )

narzi

Yes, thanks, bro. Actually, ang plano ko lang talaga to upgrade this x-mas is the towers. Just wanted to buy a pair of Euros 8 then maybe add another sub na DTX 4.15 to my USAudio USMK12II. But the wifey and I had some sort of a bet that we both did not lose or win on. She just decided to get me a pair of those Euros 8 bookshelfs. And she said the center was her X-mas gift to me na rin. Kaya masaya naman. And she'd always say na mas mabuti na lang daw ito bisyo ko kesa inom at sigarilyo (No offense meant to anybody). He he.  ;D

Oh and ahh, I don't think it's that necessary to upgrade your Pioneers, since I just recently confirmed that Daiichi is the OEM of Pioneers. So maybe you can just add 2 more pairs.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: narzimus on Dec 12, 2004 at 03:43 PM
Sir art,

         kanino mo naconfirm na Daiichi nga.? tnx ha..
     Tamang tama pla malapit ang company ng Daiichi dito sa amin..
     Makakamura siguro ako...

Narzi...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: garee on Dec 13, 2004 at 09:16 AM
bro jdg,
Try Ambassador, baka dun mas mura, maybe you can get a 450 at 16K+++. Audioworld quoted me 17.7K for the 450. Both th 440 and 450 are great choices, and yes, right now, somebody is selling their 440 at the buy and sell section, baka mas makamura ka pa dun.  ;D

bro garee,
Yes, I think the 450 is a very good amp. One that you wouldn't need to upgrade in a year or two.  ;D


thanks for the heads up. i'm also considering hk130, but since its only 5.1, the yammy has an advantage and at a cheaper price at 15,+++ ( i got this from Listening Room)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Dec 13, 2004 at 10:56 AM
Sir art,

         kanino mo naconfirm na Daiichi nga.? tnx ha..
     Tamang tama pla malapit ang company ng Daiichi dito sa amin..
     Makakamura siguro ako...

Narzi...

Bro,
Check their website: www.daiichi.ph
Then click on profile. An employee of Daiichi told me OEM sila ng Pioneer.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: narzimus on Dec 13, 2004 at 12:24 PM
Dj art,

Tnx for the info..

narzi
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: golp on Dec 15, 2004 at 08:13 AM
mga sir i've been reading the posts and many say that yamaha is the
best if you're into ht.  i was wondering why?  i mean do they sound more crisp
and clear for movie explosions, gun shots, car chases, etc.  compared to other
receivers like the hk or denon?  just curious....

thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Control on Dec 15, 2004 at 10:56 AM
mga sir i've been reading the posts and many say that yamaha is the
best if you're into ht.  i was wondering why?  i mean do they sound more crisp
and clear for movie explosions, gun shots, car chases, etc.  compared to other
receivers like the hk or denon?  just curious....

thanks!

Sir, kasi bright ang mga yamaha avrs (meaning not only gun shots and explosions but you can also hear the rolling of small rocks and the swift blowing of winds) .

-edited post
 ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Chito C. on Dec 15, 2004 at 11:13 AM


Sir, kasi bright ang mga yamaha avrs (meaning not only gun shots and explosions but you can also hear the rolling of small rocks and the swift blowing of winds) in other words "much more detailed sya".



haven't really heard of other amps but if the yammies are more detailed, shouldn't it be good in audio? I was comparing my nextbase dvd player with a recently bought sony cpd and i can notice the difference wherein (both are connected in a yammy 440) the nextbase is brighter than the sony cpd (this was advertised by the seller as warm sounding). In my own opinion, I like the sound better using the nextbase coz it was more detailed - litaw yung kalansing pero hindi basag. Better join you guys in one of ur sessions para naman ma practice tenga ko.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Control on Dec 15, 2004 at 11:27 AM


haven't really heard of other amps but if the yammies are more detailed, shouldn't it be good in audio? I was comparing my nextbase dvd player with a recently bought sony cpd and i can notice the difference wherein (both are connected in a yammy 440) the nextbase is brighter than the sony cpd (this was advertised by the seller as warm sounding). In my own opinion, I like the sound better using the nextbase coz it was more detailed - litaw yung kalansing pero hindi basag. Better join you guys in one of ur sessions para naman ma practice tenga ko.

Sir, you are more than welcome to join us.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 15, 2004 at 05:58 PM


haven't really heard of other amps but if the yammies are more detailed, shouldn't it be good in audio? I was comparing my nextbase dvd player with a recently bought sony cpd and i can notice the difference wherein (both are connected in a yammy 440) the nextbase is brighter than the sony cpd (this was advertised by the seller as warm sounding). In my own opinion, I like the sound better using the nextbase coz it was more detailed - litaw yung kalansing pero hindi basag. Better join you guys in one of ur sessions para naman ma practice tenga ko.

IF the two players were connected via analog outs, there'd be some sonic differences due to the use of different op amps at the output stages of each player.  But using digital outs, chances are they would sound identical on most set-ups. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Chito C. on Dec 15, 2004 at 06:06 PM


IF the two players were connected via analog outs, there'd be some sonic differences due to the use of different op amps at the output stages of each player. But using digital outs, chances are they would sound identical on most set-ups.

Ur right! I use coax for the nextbase and analog outs for the sony cd player. Probably connect the two via analog outs just to hear their diferrences. Thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: iceman90a on Dec 15, 2004 at 06:16 PM


Sir, kasi bright ang mga yamaha avrs (meaning not only gun shots and explosions but you can also hear the rolling of small rocks and the swift blowing of winds) in other words "much more detailed sya".



bright is not detailed
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Dec 15, 2004 at 06:40 PM
bright - matalas, humihiyaw yung singer, parang pinupunit na yero ang boses, sobra sa kalansing, sibilant, sinusutsutan ka ng kumakanta. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 15, 2004 at 06:50 PM
Bright simply means the frequency response plot is not flat to within 0.5db and has emphasis (often +2db and above) starting at 2khz up to 8khz at various points in between.  It can sound detailed if the detail falls at those points. Often a muffled recording will benefit from it.  But it will sound grating and harsh if the recording was already bright at those points to begin with.  Nothing beats a flat frequency response as it reveals what the recording really is.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: tigershark on Dec 15, 2004 at 11:46 PM
anybody knows where can i buy yamaha rx-v450 less than 15k? thanks  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackryan on Dec 16, 2004 at 12:11 AM
Can anyone help me understand whether it is really time to dump a still good condition RX-V795a in favor the latest RX-V750 model please ???

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: golp on Dec 16, 2004 at 07:53 AM


Sir, kasi bright ang mga yamaha avrs (meaning not only gun shots and explosions but you can also hear the rolling of small rocks and the swift blowing of winds) in other words "much more detailed sya".




say for example the depth charge scene in U-571, would the yammy sound better than
the hk or the denon?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Control on Dec 16, 2004 at 10:38 AM
Okay, Sorry for the confusion. Leave ko na lang ito sa mga Masters .  :-[
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 16, 2004 at 11:19 AM
Can anyone help me understand whether it is really time to dump a still good condition RX-V795a in favor the latest RX-V750 model please ???



Only when there are features in the new gears that you really want and are not supported in your old gear. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 16, 2004 at 11:25 AM



say for example the depth charge scene in U-571, would the yammy sound better than
the hk or the 

Most , if not all, HT receivers expect a powered sub to take care of the really deep and powerful bass you find in some DVD titles.  So for me, the sub can make a big difference when listening to those depth charges in U-571 or the pod races in Phantom Menace.    The sub pre-out in all receivers pretty much contain the same LF contents from DVDs to drive the sub.  So the powered sub does a competent job or not.  Not so much the receiver's job. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: iceman90a on Dec 16, 2004 at 12:16 PM
Can anyone help me understand whether it is really time to dump a still good condition RX-V795a in favor the latest RX-V750 model please ???

the new model has more bells & whistles (features) plus its 150watts x 7, compared to the 125watts x 5 of the older one

but i only use DD and DTS and only have 5 speakers, so I wouldn't :) your call though ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 16, 2004 at 12:37 PM
Can anyone help me understand whether it is really time to dump a still good condition RX-V795a in favor the latest RX-V750 model please ???



New parts like caps and tranny so will last longer, new features, new look, more power, 7 channels, preouts, future proof, & sound for sure mas dynamic..  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: golp on Dec 16, 2004 at 02:13 PM


Most , if not all, HT receivers expect a powered sub to take care of the really deep and powerful bass you find in some DVD titles.  So for me, the sub can make a big difference when listening to those depth charges in U-571 or the pod races in Phantom Menace.    The sub pre-out in all receivers pretty much contain the same LF contents from DVDs to drive the sub.  So the powered sub does a competent job or not.  Not so much the receiver's job.

Thanks av_phile!  Coz I'm planning to audition yammies vs. hk in some shops.  And I would be using
the receiver for 90% movies & 10% music.  So I would like to ask if you can think of a movie title or scene
that would show that yammy is indeed the best when it comes to movies.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Dec 20, 2004 at 11:33 AM


Thanks av_phile!  Coz I'm planning to audition yammies vs. hk in some shops.  And I would be using
the receiver for 90% movies & 10% music.  So I would like to ask if you can think of a movie title or scene
that would show that yammy is indeed the best when it comes to movies.

Since you did say 90% Movies and 10% Music, Then your logical choice would be a Yamaha. Nothing beats a Yamaha when it comes to Movies. Just me.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: narzimus on Dec 20, 2004 at 06:56 PM
Tama ka dyan si art... when it comes to movies. Yamaha is the best...  bias ba! hehehe...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Bogsle on Dec 21, 2004 at 02:37 AM
Just an inquiry.

The yammy user's manual says that the 6ch/8ch Multi Channel input at the back of the receiver may be used for connecting external decoders, sound processors or pre-amps, and that when selected the unit automatically turns off the digital sound field processor and you cannot select any sound field programs.   

Even if the DSP is off, does the equalizer settings and other speaker parameter settings still have an effect for audio sources going thru the 6ch/8ch Multi Channel input of the yammy reciever?

Thanks in advance for the response.



Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 21, 2004 at 09:27 AM
I can't speak for the yamaha brand, but based on my experience and understanding, using the 6-8 multichannel analog input and with the selector pointed to it,  bypasses the internal DSP and DAC chips, so that your external decoder takes over all the digital processing functions.   If all the ancillary functions like equalizer settings are in the digital domain (as is most often the case in receivers), they are likewise bypassed.  I think only the digital volume control remains.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Dec 21, 2004 at 11:15 AM
I second the motion, Sir av_phile1.  Pag analog multichannel input an ginamit mo, parang regular individual channel amplifier na lang ung receiver.  This is a good way to compare kung alin ang mas magandang mag-decode; yung on-board decoder sa receiver mo or yung decoder ng DVD player.

Ü
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Bogsle on Dec 22, 2004 at 01:12 AM
Thanks so much for your replies.

Actually, I'm using the Yammy receiver as amplifier for my RA-02. The RA-02 has 2 channel pre-amp outputs that I connected to the left and right multi-channel (pre-amp) input of the Yammy.

The RA-02 only has 40watts/channel available. I thought of taking advantage of the 110watts/channel of my RX-V1400 and use it as power amp for the RA-02. As in this case I'm only utilizing 2 channels (left and right) of the receiver thus the Yammy has no difficulty with the amplification at all.

I favor using the RA-02 as pre-amps since I noticed it sounds much better than when I use the DACs of the Yammy for 2 channel audio.

You may think why don't I acquire an actual power amp for my RA-02 like the RB-03. We'll, I'm still saving up for it.  ;D

However, noticably the sound being produced by my system now is more dynamic and seems to have more body. I can also feel more bass coming from my AE Evo1s, which are a bit power hungry, although rated at 89db.

Thinking about it, since I like the sound coming from the combination of the RA-02 (used as pre-amp) and RX-V1400 (used as power amp). I'm having second thoughts of actually buying a true power amp.

What do you think? Any comments?

Only issue I have though is that I'm consuming more electricity now since the RX-V1400 consumes 500watts of power every time I use it.  :-[





Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 22, 2004 at 09:58 AM
Interesting set-up there, Bogsle.  I am just curious how you connected the RA-02 stereo pre-outs to the RX-V14 considering that the receiver does not have any power main ins. 

I can only assume you used the receiver's line level stereo input.  You essentially have two cascaded volume controls.  Not exactly elegant, but it works; just don't overdrive the yamaha.

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Dec 22, 2004 at 11:14 AM
.........Only issue I have though is that I'm consuming more electricity now since the RX-V1400 consumes 500watts of power every time I use it.  :-[ 

Don't worry about the 500watts thing, actually hindi naman talaga constant na 500watts ang kinakain ny Yammy mo.  Typically, mga 10~30 percent lang ng 500watts ang actual na nacoconsume ng Yammy mo kung normal listening level ka lang (40 ~ 20 dB) unless you are continously driving your gear in full blast volume (0 ~ -12 dB).

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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Bogsle on Dec 23, 2004 at 11:01 PM
Interesting set-up there, Bogsle.  I am just curious how you connected the RA-02 stereo pre-outs to the RX-V14 considering that the receiver does not have any power main ins. 

I can only assume you used the receiver's line level stereo input.  You essentially have two cascaded volume controls.  Not exactly elegant, but it works; just don't overdrive the yamaha.


The RX-V1400 has basically five (6) inputs for an external decoder/pre amplifier, and each input correspond to the following:

Front Left input => Front Left speaker
Front Right input => Front Right speaker
Surround Right input => Surround Right speaker
Surround Left input => Surround Left speaker
Center input => Center speaker
Subwoofer input => Subwoofer (LFE) output

Since the RA-02 has only two pre amp outputs for LEFT and RIGHT channels, I thought of connecting these to the Front Left input and Front Right input respectively, through which audio is then outputed to the corresponding left and right speaker channels on the Yammy. The other speaker channels do not function because there are no other connections going to the rest of the multi-channel inputs. Also, because the speakers are connected to the Yammy, I already switched off the speaker channels for the RA-02.

My thinking was that since the RA-02 can be used as a pre amp using its pre amp outputs and that the RX-V1400 has the inputs available for an external decoder/pre amp, the two can be used together in such a setup or configuration.

Your right about the cascading setup. Currently I just maintain the volume control of the RA-02 at exactly 12 o'clock, and make use only of the volume control on the Yammy receiver for increasing or decreasing volume going to the speakers. Do you think this is just fine? Please tell me if not so I can just discontinue the setup and wait until I have acquired a stereo power amp for my RA-02.

Thanks.

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Bogsle on Dec 23, 2004 at 11:02 PM


Don't worry about the 500watts thing, actually hindi naman talaga constant na 500watts ang kinakain ny Yammy mo.  Typically, mga 10~30 percent lang ng 500watts ang actual na nacoconsume ng Yammy mo kung normal listening level ka lang (40 ~ 20 dB) unless you are continously driving your gear in full blast volume (0 ~ -12 dB).

Ü


Is this so.

Thanks for the knowledge.

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackryan on Dec 24, 2004 at 07:12 AM


the new model has more bells & whistles (features) plus its 150watts x 7, compared to the 125watts x 5 of the older one

but i only use DD and DTS and only have 5 speakers, so I wouldn't :) your call though ;D

resistance is futile !

I ended up taking home the RX-V750 and my former unit, RX-V795a is already making somebody else happy at his place.

-jackryan 8)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrid on Dec 24, 2004 at 09:26 AM


Don't worry about the 500watts thing, actually hindi naman talaga constant na 500watts ang kinakain ny Yammy mo.  Typically, mga 10~30 percent lang ng 500watts ang actual na nacoconsume ng Yammy mo kung normal listening level ka lang (40 ~ 20 dB) unless you are continously driving your gear in full blast volume (0 ~ -12 dB).

Ü


Nakapulot ako ng AX-700U, I am thinking of sending this to PI, but when I saw it, rated 450 W. I began to hesitate. Ang lakas mag consume ng power yun ha.  :o  Then nabasa ko nga itong post. What a relief! Anyone here knows anything about this model? Please share it with me. So I can decide if it's worthy sending it over. I'll apreciate any info.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Control on Dec 29, 2004 at 09:18 PM


resistance is futile !

I ended up taking home the RX-V750 and my former unit, RX-V795a is already making somebody else happy at his place.

-jackryan 8)

Congratz on your new toy Sir Jackryan...  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: iceman90a on Dec 30, 2004 at 10:38 AM

Nakapulot ako ng AX-700U, I am thinking of sending this to PI, but when I saw it, rated 450 W. I began to hesitate. Ang lakas mag consume ng power yun ha. :o Then nabasa ko nga itong post. What a relief! Anyone here knows anything about this model? Please share it with me. So I can decide if it's worthy sending it over. I'll apreciate any info. :)

padala nyo nalang sa akin Sir ;D

what i got from the net:

110 watts x 2 channels
1987 model
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: rfc5 on Dec 30, 2004 at 01:35 PM


resistance is futile !

I ended up taking home the RX-V750 and my former unit, RX-V795a is already making somebody else happy at his place.

-jackryan 8)

hi m a newbie here. I have a yamaha RX-V995 coupled with JBL Northridge series 28 and 24 for my fronts and rears respectively and MS 907W for my subs. I was wondering if it's about time to upgrade to a 6.1 or a 7.1? I need expert advise whether to retain or upgrade. Thanks in advance for the reply.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Control on Dec 30, 2004 at 07:25 PM


hi m a newbie here. I have a yamaha RX-V995 coupled with JBL Northridge series 28 and 24 for my fronts and rears respectively and MS 907W for my subs. I was wondering if it's about time to upgrade to a 6.1 or a 7.1? I need expert advise whether to retain or upgrade. Thanks in advance for the reply.

Sir, that depends on your choice. Here's the current situation, most dvd's as of today are only 5.1....so what's the use of getting a 6.1 or 7.1 avr?  ??? I know we have different prespectives when it comes to buying our very own avrs..but now after asking yourself the above question, you decide for yourself whether to retain or upgrade..  ;)

Hope That Helps
Control
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Jan 03, 2005 at 01:10 PM
hi m a newbie here. I have a yamaha RX-V995 coupled with JBL Northridge series 28 and 24 for my fronts and rears respectively and MS 907W for my subs. I was wondering if it's about time to upgrade to a 6.1 or a 7.1? I need expert advise whether to retain or upgrade. Thanks in advance for the reply.

The main reason why you'd decide to upgrade would be, future-proofing. There are many 6 channel dvds today and I'm sure mas dadami pa. And another point is, you can enhance your listening experience with 6.1 or 7.1 amps since you get a wider soundstage, besides, these amps can matrix 5 channel signals to 6 or 7 channels.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sillyputty on Jan 03, 2005 at 02:46 PM
yung choice kung 5/6/7 channel amp e depende din sa laki ng room.
kung maliit ang room e masasayang yung ibang amp kasi malamang e 5.1 lang ang setup mo.
kung ayaw mong masayang yung 2 extra amp e hanap kayo ng may multiroom/multisource feature.
pwedeng naka 5.1 ka sa htroom mo tapos yung 2 extra channels e para sa stereo speakers sa sala.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Jan 03, 2005 at 11:56 PM
The rule of thumb in ANY electronic device purchase is to get the most advanced or latest model your budget can buy.  Napakabilis kasi ng advancement ng technology and by buying the latest model you can afford is the only best way to protect your investmant.  Besides that, you can be assured of higher resale value kung mataas din ang model ng gear mo.  In the case of HT, why settle for 5.1 kung magdadagdag ka lang ng 2K-4K e pwede ka nang bumili ng 6.1?  Or if your budget allows 6.1, why not save a few more K to afford the 7.1.  Another rule of thumb is "aim not on the entry-level model, rather, go for at least the mid to upper level model; top-of-the-lines are no-no, they are full of hyped features which are never used and a waste of money".

Ü
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Jan 04, 2005 at 10:26 AM
The rule of thumb in ANY electronic device purchase is to get the most advanced or latest model your budget can buy.  Napakabilis kasi ng advancement ng technology and by buying the latest model you can afford is the only best way to protect your investmant.  Besides that, you can be assured of higher resale value kung mataas din ang model ng gear mo.  In the case of HT, why settle for 5.1 kung magdadagdag ka lang ng 2K-4K e pwede ka nang bumili ng 6.1?  Or if your budget allows 6.1, why not save a few more K to afford the 7.1.  Another rule of thumb is "aim not on the entry-level model, rather, go for at least the mid to upper level model; top-of-the-lines are no-no, they are full of hyped features which are never used and a waste of money".

Ü

"Bar None"  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Fox Mulder on Jan 05, 2005 at 11:21 AM
mga bossing tanung naman.

I am using the coax digital out from my dvd player to my RXV440 receiver. Sa speaker/sound setup ng player may 3 choices......

1. LT/RT
2. Stereo
3. 5.1 channel

ano po dapat pipiliin ko? Also yung player din may option for 24 or 94 kHZ (ata??tama ba?), same Q din po. ???

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 05, 2005 at 12:11 PM
mga bossing tanung naman.

I am using the coax digital out from my dvd player to my RXV440 receiver. Sa speaker/sound setup ng player may 3 choices......

1. LT/RT
2. Stereo
3. 5.1 channel

ano po dapat pipiliin ko? Also yung player din may option for 24 or 94 kHZ (ata??tama ba?), same Q din po. ???



If  you are using only a pair of speakers, choose stereo.  If using multiple speakers, select 5.1.   LT/RT is set if your receiver is an older prologic which it isn't. 

You mean 96khz or 192khz choice?   The receiver typically will sense the sample rate being fed into it from the player's digital connection. IF the receiver cannot decode at 192khz, you could get no signal or a strong white noise.  Then just lower the player's rate to 96khz. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Fox Mulder on Jan 06, 2005 at 09:59 AM
thanks sir av_phile, so dapat pala 5.1 and setting ko.

pahabol na rin po.... can the RXV440 decode 192Khz signal from the dvd player, ibig po ba sabihin nito the higher (192 vs 96) the better??? sorry po ha kase na misplaced ko po yung manual ng receiver eh. :-[
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 06, 2005 at 10:01 AM
I am not familiar with the model but most new receivers do.  Only way to find out is to set the DVD player at 192khz and see if the receiver can process it via the digital connection. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Jan 06, 2005 at 12:15 PM
thanks sir av_phile, so dapat pala 5.1 and setting ko.

pahabol na rin po.... can the RXV440 decode 192Khz signal from the dvd player, ibig po ba sabihin nito the higher (192 vs 96) the better??? sorry po ha kase na misplaced ko po yung manual ng receiver eh. :-[

The 440 has 96/24 DACs. Not 192/24 DACs. If you lost your manual, you can download it from their site. The RXV450 has 192/24 DACs, but not the 440. And yes, 192KHz is better than 96KHz.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: eagumban on Jan 06, 2005 at 01:36 PM
Hi guys, I'm a newbie.  I just wanted to know, has anybody heard about RX-V1500.  This is a new model replacing the 1400 model.  It's hard for me to audition 'cause I'm hear at the province.  I'm planning to pair this with the Diamond 9 speakers.

Your input is very helpful to me.  Also, I just wanted to know the price. :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Fox Mulder on Jan 06, 2005 at 03:46 PM
Thanks again sirs AV and ART.....maaasahan talaga kayo
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Jan 07, 2005 at 11:11 AM
Hi guys, I'm a newbie.  I just wanted to know, has anybody heard about RX-V1500.  This is a new model replacing the 1400 model.  It's hard for me to audition 'cause I'm hear at the province.  I'm planning to pair this with the Diamond 9 speakers.

Your input is very helpful to me.  Also, I just wanted to know the price. :)

For Yamaha product prices, PM audioworld. They're an authorized dealer.

Now, not that I'm discouraging you from getting the 1500, everybody here knows I'm a Yamaha diehard, but on the assumption that you're not into "THX" that much, I think you'd be spending so much more for so little. I think you're much better off with their RX-V750, also assuming that you can afford it since you plan on getting a 1500 which is even more expensive. The only differences I can see are the additional power and the THX certification. That's it. The 1500 has 170W max while the 750 has 140W max. And the 1500 has THX but the 750 doesn't. The last time I checked, the 750 costs around 29-30 thousand. I never asked about the 1500. My point is, after checking for the prices of both, see if the price difference is worth it. I have the RX-V650 at home in case you wanna know. Hope I Helped.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Fox Mulder on Jan 07, 2005 at 11:25 AM
sirs it's me again,

for RXV440, bakit po hindi ko ma-adjust yung speaker volume ng main L and R? naka fixed po sa sa 0db unlike  the rest of the speakers na ajustable from -10 to +10db? Is this normal?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Chito C. on Jan 07, 2005 at 11:33 AM
sirs it's me again,

for RXV440, bakit po hindi ko ma-adjust yung speaker volume ng main L and R? naka fixed po sa sa 0db unlike the rest of the speakers na ajustable from -10 to +10db? Is this normal?


I aslo own one and as far as i know pwede i adjust.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Fox Mulder on Jan 07, 2005 at 11:40 AM
sir paano nyo ginagawa??? kasi ako what I do is adjust the speakers while watching/listening by pressing the LEVEL/TITLE button on the remote. naa adjust ko lahat ng level ng speakers except yung main L&R, hanggang 0db lang sya.

oh no defective kaya yung unit ko?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Jan 07, 2005 at 11:48 AM
sirs it's me again,

for RXV440, bakit po hindi ko ma-adjust yung speaker volume ng main L and R? naka fixed po sa sa 0db unlike  the rest of the speakers na ajustable from -10 to +10db? Is this normal?

If you check page 48 of your manual, it is written there na the center and rear speakers can be adjusted from -10dB~+10dB but the main speakers can be adjusted from -20dB~0. So it's normal. But they seem to be the same lang naman e, both settings have a range of 20dB.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Fox Mulder on Jan 07, 2005 at 11:59 AM
I just checked this now, and yes from -20~0db nga lang pwede i-adjust yung mains.....thanks sirs art and chito, i really must get myself that manual online. ngayon ko pa alang kasi talaga na asikaso i-setup tong HT ko and mahirap nga pag wala manual... :'(
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wanderlust on Jan 07, 2005 at 12:08 PM
i agree, mahirap if kapa kapa lang and not read the manual. i have just up-graded kasi my old yammy to a newer model and was having a hard time with the digital connections as my dvd do not have optical outs, when the factory setting now of most yamaha avrs (if not all) is optical for dvd audio in. consequently, am getting only analog signals from my player which the yammy is trying to matrix to 5.1 or 6.1 for that matter (ok naman sya, as the effects are still there, however i cnt shake the feeling that im using only analog signals from my system)

luckily i have decided to read the manual, and voila  :o  problem solved!  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Papaber on Jan 07, 2005 at 04:54 PM
 :)Can you help me find a replacement remote for my Yamaha RX-V795 receiver. Some buttons no longer work as it received torturing from my son. Sana cheap lang.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: KEN on Jan 08, 2005 at 07:25 PM
:)Can you help me find a replacement remote for my Yamaha RX-V795 receiver. Some buttons no longer work as it received torturing from my son. Sana cheap lang.

Try ordering from the Yamaha authorize local dealer/service center they should able to order it for you and if lucky they might have it on stock. My old RXV800 remote control was lost last year but manage to order it from their service center at very reasonable price.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Papaber on Jan 08, 2005 at 10:10 PM
Great! Thanks Ken. I will do that.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: eagumban on Jan 08, 2005 at 11:16 PM
Sir Art

Salamat po sa mga advise nyo.  Actually nag promo kasi ang Yamaha.  Nung mag inquire ako ng price its now only 36.5K at ang review ng What Hi Fi is already 5 star. (http://yamahaproofing.neuropia.com/av/Reviews/Product%20Reviews.jsp).  May nabasa rin akong review sa (http://www.eastwoodhifi.com.au/rx-v1500.htm at parang positive din ang review. Pero ang babantayan raw ay ang matching sa speaker....Can anybody comment on this.  Thanks a lot. :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Jan 10, 2005 at 11:37 AM
:)Can you help me find a replacement remote for my Yamaha RX-V795 receiver. Some buttons no longer work as it received torturing from my son. Sana cheap lang.

The price of the remote seems too much for me, kasi once I asked audioworld if I could get a remote for the RX-V750, and he said it's gonna cost around $100. Yes, dollars! so that's a bit above the 5K mark. Almost half the price, so why not get a new amp, maybe even a second hand one seems to be a better option that getting just the remote. But, and that's a big but, if the remote seems affordable naman, then go for it. You could also visit some surplus shops and see if they have a Yamaha amp remote.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Jan 10, 2005 at 11:50 AM
Sir Art

Salamat po sa mga advise nyo.  Actually nag promo kasi ang Yamaha.  Nung mag inquire ako ng price its now only 36.5K at ang review ng What Hi Fi is already 5 star. (http://yamahaproofing.neuropia.com/av/Reviews/Product%20Reviews.jsp).  May nabasa rin akong review sa (http://www.eastwoodhifi.com.au/rx-v1500.htm at parang positive din ang review. Pero ang babantayan raw ay ang matching sa speaker....Can anybody comment on this.  Thanks a lot. :)


Yamaha amps have always been regarded as bright-sounding. It's best to match them with warm sounding speakers. But I've always regarded it's bright sound to their Natural Sound philosophy.

Now I ask you, is that price difference worth all the difference? The 650 costs around 25K, the 750 30K, the 1500, as you said, 36.5K. The difference between the 650 and the 750: component video up conversion, a phono input, and a power higher by 5 Watts. Now, the difference between the 750 and the 1500: THX certification and power difference of 30 Watts.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Jan 10, 2005 at 12:09 PM
:) Can you help me find a replacement remote for my Yamaha RX-V795 receiver. Some buttons no longer work as it received torturing from my son. Sana cheap lang.

Here's another inexpensive option: Try bringing it to audioworld and ask if they can repair it for you.
Another more inexpensive option: Try fixing it yourself by opening it up and cleaning it up. Acetone and an old toothbrush will work just fine. Remote controls rarely get broken. Usually, the contacts just get too dirty. Since you said the other buttons are still functioning, I can say the remote is still okay and just needs a bit of cleaning.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wanderlust on Jan 10, 2005 at 12:17 PM
or get yourself a generic (universal)  remote control. but a word of caution though, it might not have all the buttons needed to control your amp remotely, however you can do it manually naman d ba at the amps end............. one thing i noticed about yamaha receivers is that all the features that you cna control using a remote you may also do so through the avr itself.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: eagumban on Jan 10, 2005 at 02:14 PM
Sir Art,

Thank you again for the enlightenment.  This is what I like about this forum, it is laid down to laymans terms.  Actually what caught my attention to 1500 is the review which was given favor.  Also in the review, it was mentioned that 1500 model had a better audio sound as compared to 1400 and assuming to other models lower than this.  I'm being given an impression that Yamaha sounds good only to HT and poor on audio. And so when I heard the good audio review using its direct option, it gave me a sense of comfort if in case I decide to buy a Yamaha brand. Could anybody comment please... Thanks ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Papaber on Jan 10, 2005 at 03:51 PM
Thanks for all your suggestions. I went to the yamaha office in Buendia today. They advised me to bring the unit there so they can take a look at it. Should it require a replacement, it will have to be ordered pa and may cost up to P7,000.00. That is a lot of money. Since I am considering upgrading to Pro Logic II, better yata to get a new amp. Pero wala pa akong budget.

How much is a good universal remote and where can I get one?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wanderlust on Jan 10, 2005 at 04:05 PM
WOW! 7k just for a remote?!  :o

it would rather use it to buy a 2nd unit....    ;D

universal remotes sir are a plenty, a good one cost around 600 to 1k plus (but there are expensive ones also, specially those with the build in lcd display), however there are generic remotes which sells for only 120 up.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Papaber on Jan 10, 2005 at 04:24 PM
Wow! talaga. Where in the Ortigas or Makati area is the best place for me to look for a good universal remote?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: KEN on Jan 10, 2005 at 04:37 PM
Thanks for all your suggestions. I went to the yamaha office in Buendia today. They advised me to bring the unit there so they can take a look at it. Should it require a replacement, it will have to be ordered pa and may cost up to P7,000.00. That is a lot of money. Since I am considering upgrading to Pro Logic II, better yata to get a new amp. Pero wala pa akong budget.

How much is a good universal remote and where can I get one?

GRABE naman taga yan...got my RXV800 remote control from Yamaha service center dito sa Jeddah for around 1,700Php. Bakit di mo subukan mag email sa Yamaha Japan...baka pwede direct sa kanila, baka mas mura pa siguro kahit kasama pa cost of shipping sa price nilang 7K Php.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: obey on Jan 10, 2005 at 08:17 PM
Mahal nga ng remote kung P7K ang presyo.  Meron ngang mga nagbebenta ng RX-V440 nila ng P9K last year :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mattmatt on Jan 11, 2005 at 06:49 AM
Mahal nga ng remote kung P7K ang presyo.  Meron ngang mga nagbebenta ng RX-V440 nila ng P9K last year :)
Mapagsamantala! better email yamaha and ask for advice na lang kng saan you can get reasonably priced remote, try listening in style...maybe they can order for you.if you ask me buying 7k remote is out of the question for old model.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Papaber on Jan 11, 2005 at 10:49 AM
I agree. Talagang out of the question yung 7K.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wanderlust on Jan 11, 2005 at 11:05 AM
Papaber,

in makati , the best place would be to go at the audio/video shops located park square, go inside those not to classy ones and surely youll find one there.

another option will be ace hardware or any hardware for that matter, in there electronics section surely meron nyan.

but if your really into generics, youll find the cheapest at raon, in sta. cruz, quiapo.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: abj104 on Jan 12, 2005 at 09:01 PM
Sir KEn ,
kumusta yung RXV800 mo ?
Paano ko ba ma maximize yan ibig ko sabihin yung best adjustment when listening to audio cd's only.
masakit na kasi sa tenga after 3 songs sa umpisa lang ako nagagandahan in all kind of music.
thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: KEN on Jan 13, 2005 at 05:30 PM
Sir KEn ,
kumusta yung RXV800 mo ?
Paano ko ba ma maximize yan ibig ko sabihin yung best adjustment when listening to audio cd's only.
masakit na kasi sa tenga after 3 songs sa umpisa lang ako nagagandahan in all kind of music.
thanks!
hi abj104,
you can try setting the effect to OFF, and set the direct process (disable DSP) to ON, try also using analog cable for your L/R CDP audio connection. If you like 5 ch, you can try the 5ch stereo mode... Honestly noong una ok na sa akin yung ganoong setup kaso ng magpalit ako ng speaker naging medyo matalas ang tunog and I was forced to add amps on its pre out, bali ngayon DSP nalang ang gamit ko sa kanya for HT. RXV800 is a very good all around A/V receiver(IMHO), for almost 3 yrs na ata or more wala pa naman akong nagiging major problem except nga ng mawala yung remote control.

hope this helps...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: abj104 on Jan 13, 2005 at 11:11 PM
Sir KEN,
Thanks !
What kind of speaker nga pala ang gamit mo?
I'm using a B&W DM601.
What amps ang idinagdag mo at para saan naman ang gamit nun sir?

Thanks ulit.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: KEN on Jan 15, 2005 at 02:29 PM
Sir KEN,
Thanks !
What kind of speaker nga pala ang gamit mo?
I'm using a B&W DM601.
What amps ang idinagdag mo at para saan naman ang gamit nun sir?
Thanks ulit.

B&W rin ang gamit ko 602s3 front and 601s3 sa rear bought the speakers with out testing it with RXV800 kasi di naman pwede dito yung home audition... rely only on reviews ( in fairness  B&W is well known brand of quality and good sounding speakers as well as Yamaha for A/V receivers. Both 602/601 and RXV800 are good quality audio equipments ngalang IMHO parang hindi sila match, don't know about the newer models of Yamaha receivers.)

Yung pre out ng RXV800 ay connected to 3 units of Quad 306 amplifier (1 center/biamp,1 main,1 rear). Yung Quad is only 50 watts but class A mas powerful pa ang tunog kesa sa RXV800 but I guest hindi siguro dapat i compare yung RXV800 A/V receiver againts Quad amplifier (IMHO).Yung ang kagandahan ng RXV800 my pre-out incase prefer mo ang tunog ng ibang amplifier kesa dito kabit mo lang sa pre out ok na also RXV800 has 6 ch input  for newer audio format.

Bali for DSP processing na lang ngayon ang gamit ng RXV800 para sa HT.



Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: abj104 on Jan 15, 2005 at 03:08 PM
Sir Ken,

Rotel RA02 is 40 watts per channel ,pwede ko ba syang ikabit .
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: KEN on Jan 15, 2005 at 03:27 PM
RA02 was my first choice, but got a better deal with the Quad..here are some of the answers made by our gurus with regards to connecting Yamaha RXV800 and Rotel RA02..

http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=16576.msg338571#msg338571


another option to connect your RXV800 and RA02 using 1 pair of speaker is to have a QED MA19 system control switch but this is a discontinued item, only last month there's a guy in ebay selling this item (10 units Bnew)..fortunately I bidded and won 1 unit  but I'm still waiting for its delivery..I'm planning kasi of having a tube preamp para totally separated na yung Audio and HT bali share nalang ng main speaker... malakas kasi sa kuryente pag naka HT ako dahil 3 units of class A amp ang nag power ng speakers medyo OT na.

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: abj104 on Jan 15, 2005 at 04:40 PM
Sir Ken,
Thanks!
and Sir how much did it cost you ng 3 amp Quad 306?

ibig sabihin ba pag ganun bawat spkr channel ay kanya kanyang volume control
di ba mahirap itimpla yun.?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: KEN on Jan 15, 2005 at 07:29 PM
Got my Quad 306 at a bargain price clearance Sale/closing sale ng Quad dealer dito sa Jeddah, got the 3 units for approx. US$ 375(way below its org. tag price) almost the same price ng RA02 dito but I heard that Quad  is a notch higher than Rotels and no mistake about it (IMHO).

The Quad 306 doesn't have any control on it except power on/off button - its a power amp not an integrated amp like in the case of RA01/RA02. I'm using the volume control of the Yamaha RXV800(HT/Audio) which serves as a preamp.

I guest it would be better to get power amps rather than integrated amp so that you will have volume control in one place. In case you already have the RA02 try to check Ebay for QED MA19 (got it for US$50 including shipping) in this way you can connect your CDP to RA02 and DVD player to RXV800 and use the QED MA19 in switching between RXV800(HT) and RA02(2 ch Audio) while using only 1 pair of main speaker for both.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: abj104 on Jan 15, 2005 at 09:35 PM
Sir KEN,
Thanks! for mentoring...
Tyaga muna ko dito sa RA02.1 pair of spkr front lang kasi ang gamit ko so hindi na ko magpapalipat lipat ng spkr connection.
I've read yung site na binigay mo re:avphile 's comments pero may isa pa kong tanong,sa  suggestion ni Sir AVphile na connection sa question (1) does it mean pag HT ay naka sw on pareho yung RXV800 and Rotel  ksi nga nakaconnect sa Rotel yung fr spkrs.GaNUN ba yun?sensya ka na novice pa ako sa ganito eh.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: KEN on Jan 15, 2005 at 09:59 PM
Yup sa pagkakaintindi ko rin ay dapat both "ON" yung RXV800 and RA02, even in my current setup dapat parehas bukas yung RXV800 and Quad ko kaya medyo malakas sa kain ng kuryente specially kung class A ang amps. The  solution is to have a separate sets of main speakers but like me and most of us who doesnt have budget or for what ever reason to have a totally separated Audio and HT setup is to have a selector switch for amps/receiver/preamps. QED MA19 seems to be designed for such task based on my research/reading on other websites.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: abj104 on Jan 15, 2005 at 10:40 PM
Sir Ken,
Thank you very much!
I understand now.Baka mag tyaga na lang ako sa pag kalas kabit ng spkr in switching HT to Audio lang a ,baka lalong lumaki bayaran ko sa Meralco ha haha.

But still dami ko natutuhan today with you.
Thanks again!!!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: YrNeH on Jan 18, 2005 at 05:08 AM
i had the honor of trying out first hand my friend's new receiver: RX-V2500 (as he is still waiting for the delivery of his PSB image 7T----ako ang bugaw ;D) and so far i'm happy with it.  pretty heavy @ 15.5kilos.  i thought my subwoofer (JBL PB10) is kinda "bitin" but this receiver's good bass management gave my sub a good workout and my HT room really rumbled and i wasn't even watching good LFE movies like U-571.  the OSD with GUI is good when setting up.   i'm still trying to tweak the best settings as my friend requested to learn the functions and features for him.  also, the video up conversion is good as the pictures appear very very good in my pixel plus tv via component video---makes me love more and be proud of my pixel plus. i will try to view it later via the HDTV input as the receiver also supports HDTV(720p/1080i).  too bad it's not gonna last any longer on my HT room as i will deliver the receiver this late afternoon :(

maybe in the future, if finances allow, i'll get this receiver or denon's avr-3805

shalom :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: narzimus on Feb 18, 2005 at 07:42 AM
ano kayang subs ang match sa yamaha?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Feb 18, 2005 at 01:55 PM
ano kayang subs ang match sa yamaha?

I think the question would be, what sub would be matched with your speakers?  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: narzimus on Feb 18, 2005 at 02:43 PM
ooppsss! typo error.. hehehe. i was thinking of it when im type mah question but ang na-type ko pala yung
receiver natin.. hehehe.. musta na Dj art?
match na match yung wharfdale (wh2) na surround na nabili ko sa pioneer kung speakers at sa yammy ko...
complete na 9 speakers ko... yehey...!!! ppalitan ko na lang ang sub ko...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Feb 18, 2005 at 02:54 PM
ooppsss! typo error.. hehehe. i was thinking of it when im type mah question but ang na-type ko pala yung
receiver natin.. hehehe.. musta na Dj art?
match na match yung wharfdale (wh2) na surround na nabili ko sa pioneer kung speakers at sa yammy ko...
complete na 9 speakers ko... yehey...!!! ppalitan ko na lang ang sub ko...

Ok naman, enjoying my 650 and euros 8s, kakabili ko rin ng wh2 kay macks, planning to use it as surrounds for my 440 sa bedroom setup and use the DTX 9.5 bookshelf as rear centers. Ano ba sub mo ngayon? Thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: d00dZ on Feb 21, 2005 at 01:41 PM
mga sir, pa-advice naman po.

i'm in the middle of upgrading from a Yamaha DVX-S60 HTIB to separates. For now, nakabili na ako ng:
Wharfedale Diamond 9.4, Powercube 12, at WH-3 front and surrounds. Plano ko pa bumili ng diamond 9.C, para gawin center back surround na lang yung WH-3 front (if 6.1), or isa pang WH-3 front para gawing surrounds (if 7.1) hehe.

after several weeks of walk-ins and internet research, i narrowed down my choice of avr between Yamaha RX-V650 and Harman Kardon AVR 230.

+ ng rx-v650: 7.1, lower power consumption, slightly cheaper

+ ng avr 230: looks, better sa audio, looks, higher brand equity to those in the know, looks

90 ht: 10 audio most likely gamit ko, so before you all say "Yamaha! Yamaha!", paki-summarize naman po in one post why i should choose the Yamaha.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Feb 21, 2005 at 02:00 PM
mga sir, pa-advice naman po.

i'm in the middle of upgrading from a Yamaha DVX-S60 HTIB to separates. For now, nakabili na ako ng:
Wharfedale Diamond 9.4, Powercube 12, at WH-3 front and surrounds. Plano ko pa bumili ng diamond 9.C, para gawin center back surround na lang yung WH-3 front (if 6.1), or isa pang WH-3 front para gawing surrounds (if 7.1) hehe.

after several weeks of walk-ins and internet research, i narrowed down my choice of avr between Yamaha RX-V650 and Harman Kardon AVR 230.

+ ng rx-v650: 7.1, lower power consumption, slightly cheaper

+ ng avr 230: looks, better sa audio, looks, higher brand equity to those in the know, looks

90 ht: 10 audio most likely gamit ko, so before you all say "Yamaha! Yamaha!", paki-summarize naman po in one post why i should choose the Yamaha.

Thanks!

The very reason why Yamaha seems to be the best in HT is the fact that Yamaha seems to be the only brand that has it's own DSP technology. Yamaha has a US patented technology called CinemaDSP. It doesn't only rely on decoding Dolby Digital and DTS signals, and is not only compatible with both formats, but also enhances them. Yamaha has their own extensive research data for digital signal processing. CinemaDSP has been around way before the Dolby Digital and DTS formats came to. Try visiting their site and find out more.  ;D

http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/index.html

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackryan on Feb 21, 2005 at 02:18 PM
mga sir, pa-advice naman po.

i'm in the middle of upgrading from a Yamaha DVX-S60 HTIB to separates. For now, nakabili na ako ng:
Wharfedale Diamond 9.4, Powercube 12, at WH-3 front and surrounds. Plano ko pa bumili ng diamond 9.C, para gawin center back surround na lang yung WH-3 front (if 6.1), or isa pang WH-3 front para gawing surrounds (if 7.1) hehe.

after several weeks of walk-ins and internet research, i narrowed down my choice of avr between Yamaha RX-V650 and Harman Kardon AVR 230.

+ ng rx-v650: 7.1, lower power consumption, slightly cheaper

+ ng avr 230: looks, better sa audio, looks, higher brand equity to those in the know, looks

90 ht: 10 audio most likely gamit ko, so before you all say "Yamaha! Yamaha!", paki-summarize naman po in one post why i should choose the Yamaha.

Thanks!

Go for the Yamaha RX-V750 !!!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Feb 21, 2005 at 02:48 PM
I don't have both models, but based on heresay and what are published on the net, Yamaha HT receivers often have more bells and whistles for the same price range.  And apart from the many DSP modes for which Yamaha is famous for, it has some interesting features like YPAO with which you can tailor your room accoustic response The v650 is mid-priced and has this feature.

Just some caution when comparing power specs, HK is conservatively rated, together with NAD and Rotel.  Yamaha is not, so that its 100wpc may just sound as powerful as  HK's or NAD's 60wpc.  But you can put power safely aside as I am sure all these HT receivers can deliver the SPLs in a typical AV room.  

HK's high current abilities have proven to be excellent in audio.  And anything good in audio is also good in HT. The reverse is not always true.  But Yamaha can also excel in audio.   Their newer models claim to be high current as well (only now).

Since you plan to use it 90% HT, I don't think you can go wrong with a Yamaha.  The model you have in mind for HK seems to be more than a year old, if not mistaken,  the newer model is AVR-235.  Tthe yammie v650 is a bit more recent.  Powerwise, they are about the same.  In terms of features, both supports all the known audio formats but the HK seemed quite bare compared with the Yammie whose specs as shown on the net seemed quite impressive: YPAO, 192/24 DAC for all channels, 9-point selectable bass crossover, 9-speaker terminals with option for a revolutionary presence channels on the 8th and 9th instead of zone 2, auido delay for lip-synchronization,  s-video upconversion and Cinema DSP with about 30 surround modes.

As an HT toy, I think you can have more fun and a varied listening experience with the Yammie.  Just my observation.



Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: narzimus on Feb 21, 2005 at 09:35 PM
mga sir, pa-advice naman po.

i'm in the middle of upgrading from a Yamaha DVX-S60 HTIB to separates. For now, nakabili na ako ng:
Wharfedale Diamond 9.4, Powercube 12, at WH-3 front and surrounds. Plano ko pa bumili ng diamond 9.C, para gawin center back surround na lang yung WH-3 front (if 6.1), or isa pang WH-3 front para gawing surrounds (if 7.1) hehe.

after several weeks of walk-ins and internet research, i narrowed down my choice of avr between Yamaha RX-V650 and Harman Kardon AVR 230.

+ ng rx-v650: 7.1, lower power consumption, slightly cheaper

+ ng avr 230: looks, better sa audio, looks, higher brand equity to those in the know, looks

90 ht: 10 audio most likely gamit ko, so before you all say "Yamaha! Yamaha!", paki-summarize naman po in one post why i should choose the Yamaha.  

If your into HT, i suggest Yamaha. rxv 650 has Ypao compare with mcacc ng pioneer.
Ok sya if you're tamad mag set-up. all you need is tripod then start. 650 will do it for you.
Just me!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: taggart on Feb 21, 2005 at 10:22 PM
mga sir, pa-advice naman po.

i'm in the middle of upgrading from a Yamaha DVX-S60 HTIB to separates. For now, nakabili na ako ng:
Wharfedale Diamond 9.4, Powercube 12, at WH-3 front and surrounds. Plano ko pa bumili ng diamond 9.C, para gawin center back surround na lang yung WH-3 front (if 6.1), or isa pang WH-3 front para gawing surrounds (if 7.1) hehe.

after several weeks of walk-ins and internet research, i narrowed down my choice of avr between Yamaha RX-V650 and Harman Kardon AVR 230.

+ ng rx-v650: 7.1, lower power consumption, slightly cheaper

+ ng avr 230: looks, better sa audio, looks, higher brand equity to those in the know, looks

90 ht: 10 audio most likely gamit ko, so before you all say "Yamaha! Yamaha!", paki-summarize naman po in one post why i should choose the Yamaha.

Thanks!

i had an avr230 before...like you said it's a pretty good for audio and looks cool too.  i find it just ok for HT though and since i already have a dedicated audio system i replaced it with a yamaha.  the new yamaha models are also supposedly better for music too compared to their predecessors according to some reviewers.  if you're after that cinematic ambience, you won't regret going with yamaha.  the rx-v650 is a pretty good mid-level receiver although i just couldn't resist the add-ons of the rx-v750 which i find important.  if you find the rx-v650 good enough for your needs, i'd say go for it. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: d00dZ on Feb 22, 2005 at 09:14 AM
salamat sirs arthurallanj, av_phile1,  narzimus, at taggart! after reading your posts medyo lean towards rx-v650 ako ulit.

one comment though. i never really liked the dsp modes in our current HTIB na yamaha din, although medyo entry level nga lang talaga yun. halata yung pagka-synthetic ng effects. anyway, for sure naman big step up yung rx-v650.

for 3rd and 4th place, i was considering denon 1905 (80 w/c, no auto setup, 22,100 sa archi audio) and marantz sr4500 (80 w/c, no osd, no auto setup, 17,900 sa 5th ave). both are 7.1 na rin.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Feb 22, 2005 at 09:39 AM
You're welcome, bro. And just to let you know, the 650 is rated at 95 WpC, conservatively, as Sir AV would put it, at 20Hz~20KHz, at 8 Ohms, at 0.06% THD. And it does sound better in audio than the older models. Although, not to contest bro taggart's comment, I just thought the 5 thousand difference between the 650 and 750 wasn't worth it. The 750 has a higher power than the 650, an additional 5W, the 750 also has a learning remote, the 650 doesn't, and the 750 can upgrade any video signal to componenent video, the 650 only up to s-video. If you think those add-ons are worth the price difference, then go for it. Just me.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackryan on Feb 22, 2005 at 10:29 AM
You're welcome, bro. And just to let you know, the 650 is rated at 95 WpC, conservatively, as Sir AV would put it, at 20Hz~20KHz, at 8 Ohms, at 0.06% THD. And it does sound better in audio than the older models. Although, not to contest bro taggart's comment, I just thought the 5 thousand difference between the 650 and 750 wasn't worth it. The 750 has a higher power than the 650, an additional 5W, the 750 also has a learning remote, the 650 doesn't, and the 750 can upgrade any video signal to componenent video, the 650 only up to s-video. If you think those add-ons are worth the price difference, then go for it. Just me.  ;D

I think the 750 is worth it particularly if you use more of component video. The learning remote is also much better than the 650's and the additional bonus of getting a metallic gray finish which is much more classy IMHO. Nevertheless, the power difference is not that significant but the video conversion feature is quite useful.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Feb 22, 2005 at 10:49 AM
I think the 750 is worth it particularly if you use more of component video. The learning remote is also much better than the 650's and the additional bonus of getting a metallic gray finish which is much more classy IMHO. Nevertheless, the power difference is not that significant but the video conversion feature is quite useful.


Yes, bro, but what I do is connect my dvd player directly and every other video source to the tv. No matter how good your display is or even your amp's video conversion is, the output is only as good as the source. So I connect it directly to preserve the original source quality. Convenient, yes, but necessary? Not in my personal opinion. But the 750's learning remote is something I would have wanted. Especially if you use components that are not preprogrammed on the remote. Just me, bro.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackryan on Feb 22, 2005 at 11:26 AM
Yes, bro, but what I do is connect my dvd player directly and every other video source to the tv. No matter how good your display is or even your amp's video conversion is, the output is only as good as the source. So I connect it directly to preserve the original source quality. Convenient, yes, but necessary? Not in my personal opinion. But the 750's learning remote is something I would have wanted. Especially if you use components that are not preprogrammed on the remote. Just me, bro.  ;D

No problem bro. I have DVI on my DLP so my Samsung HD-748 connects directly via DVI. However, I also have secondary (Sony 400DVD MegaChanger) and tertiary DVD players (Nextbase) and not to mention game consoles such as Xbox which I connect via composite video of which I have routed via the RX-V750.

-jackryan 8)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gaol on Feb 22, 2005 at 12:48 PM
You're welcome, bro. And just to let you know, the 650 is rated at 95 WpC, conservatively, as Sir AV would put it, at 20Hz~20KHz, at 8 Ohms, at 0.06% THD. And it does sound better in audio than the older models. Although, not to contest bro taggart's comment, I just thought the 5 thousand difference between the 650 and 750 wasn't worth it. The 750 has a higher power than the 650, an additional 5W, the 750 also has a learning remote, the 650 doesn't, and the 750 can upgrade any video signal to componenent video, the 650 only up to s-video. If you think those add-ons are worth the price difference, then go for it. Just me.  ;D

I came across reviews from brit mag "What Video and WideScreen TV" where, according to their tests, the yamaha rxv-650 and harman kardon 330, both gave out 50watts per channel, with 5 channels drivern simultaneously, 0.1% distortion, 8 ohms at 1khz. The yamaha dsp-750(?), the rxv-750 equivalent but without am/fm tuner, gave out 50 watts also.

So as far as power output goes, it appears that the rx-v650, rx-750, hk230, and hk330 are pretty much the same and will perform similarly for most typical HT setups, although, it does show that hk is more conservative in its ratings. When I recently got my rx-v650, I had some concerns that I should have spent more for the hk330 for the added power--but it seems that is not necessarily the case.  The rx-v650 is also a newer model, and has features (e.g., DPL2x which is very good by the way for 7.1 channel tv viewing) some of which will appear only in the 35 series (i.e., hk235, 335, etc.). Also, in my case, I use it solely for HT/TV viewing, so it's pretty much a very good buy.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Feb 22, 2005 at 01:01 PM
IMHO, the power spec difference of RX-V650 & RX-V750, as  well as RX-V450 & RX-V550, are just marketing ploy to make consumer think they are of different PSU and amp section, which they are not. Their differences are basically on features added on the higher models (550 / 750). Personally, I dont even buy their advertising info that the 4 models are of different amp power ratings per channel. different channel numbers and format supported is basically the differences with the series. The choice on the 4 models will be dictated by what features you really want from a model.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Feb 22, 2005 at 01:02 PM
I came across reviews from brit mag "What Video and WideScreen TV" where, according to their tests, the yamaha rxv-650 and harman kardon 330, both gave out 50watts per channel, with 5 channels drivern simultaneously, 0.1% distortion, 8 ohms at 1khz. The yamaha dsp-750(?), the rxv-750 equivalent but without am/fm tuner, gave out 50 watts also.


That's what makes a rating CONSERVATIVE, among other things - ALL channels driven SIMULTANOUSLY.  

An FTC rating is not a guarantee as most manufacturers only use 2-channel or stereo channel not ALL.  Yamaha, Denon and most other Japanese consumer receivers are often silent on this.  Preferring to state something like 95 watts per channel front, center, surround.  Whether that's ALL channels driven or simple 2 channels is not stated.  Independent lab measurements would be required to validate manufacturer power claims.  

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gaol on Feb 22, 2005 at 01:23 PM
The same mag tested the Denon avr1804, officially rated at 90watts, and its output was only 35watts with all 5 channels driven simultaneously.

That lower power (15 watts less than the 95watt rated yamaha and the 55watt rated hk) i was able to see (or rather hear), when I auditioned a pre-owned 1804 side by side with the yamaha rx-v650, which I eventually got.

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Feb 22, 2005 at 01:33 PM
That's what makes a rating CONSERVATIVE, among other things - ALL channels driven SIMULTANOUSLY.  

An FTC rating is not a guarantee as most manufacturers only use 2-channel or stereo channel not ALL.  Yamaha, Denon and most other Japanese consumer receivers are often silent on this.  Preferring to state something like 95 watts per channel front, center, surround.  Whether that's ALL channels driven or simple 2 channels is not stated.  Independent lab measurements would be required to validate manufacturer power claims.  



Sometimes it's best to download a manual of a product, the complete specs are usually at the end pages.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Feb 22, 2005 at 03:56 PM
Sometimes it's best to download a manual of a product, the complete specs are usually at the end pages.

Nah! That end pages wont tell you the power rating story!   ???
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Feb 22, 2005 at 04:16 PM
The same mag tested the Denon avr1804, officially rated at 90watts, and its output was only 35watts with all 5 channels driven simultaneously.

That lower power (15 watts less than the 95watt rated yamaha and the 55watt rated hk) i was able to see (or rather hear), when I auditioned a pre-owned 1804 side by side with the yamaha rx-v650, which I eventually got.



How did you hear it? Did you pump the 1804 to 35-watt level and the yamaha to 50-watt level? what speaker did you use - the sensitivity? IMHO, at typical listening level, you will hardly tell the difference of wattage! For an 86dB sensitivity speaker, putting 32-watt to it will produce a whopping 101dB sound level - too loud for your ears to hear. The difference between the 50-watt and the 35-watt is about 1.5-2 dB only - very small to matter even if you can tolerate/evaluate to hear it.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Feb 22, 2005 at 04:31 PM
Sometimes it's best to download a manual of a product, the complete specs are usually at the end pages.

That's where you'll see the yamaha V650 power specs indicate 95watts for front, center and surround.  Nothing tells you if that's ALL channels driven.  Since it says "for front" i'd assume it was rated for 2 channels only. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gaol on Feb 23, 2005 at 08:25 AM
How did you hear it? Did you pump the 1804 to 35-watt level and the yamaha to 50-watt level? what speaker did you use - the sensitivity? IMHO, at typical listening level, you will hardly tell the difference of wattage! For an 86dB sensitivity speaker, putting 32-watt to it will produce a whopping 101dB sound level - too loud for your ears to hear. The difference between the 50-watt and the 35-watt is about 1.5-2 dB only - very small to matter even if you can tolerate/evaluate to hear it.

Sorry, ahobbit, not as as rigorous or as scientific as that. At the store, we had both both receivers set at (what would be their) equivalent volume levels. The 650 simply sounded more powerful and had more grunt. When I saw the reviews afterwards, I assumed that the difference I heard could be attributed to that power difference. The speakers used were Monitor Audio Bronze series. True, the listening area was not ideal, but all things being equal, to my ears, the difference was noticeable enough for me to justify paying the price difference.

On a different but probably related matter, when I switch the rx-v650 from 5.1 (DD or DTS) to 7.1 (DD-ES or DTS-ES matrix), I notice a slight dip in the volume level, my guess (because I don't have exact measurements to back this) is probably 0.5 - 1.0 dB in the volume setting. Very slight but still noticeable at first, but then immaterial once I get engrossed in what I'm watching. Any other rx-v650/750 owners notice this?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: d00dZ on Feb 23, 2005 at 08:32 AM
bought the rx-v650 yesterday! i was just canvassing for prices sa shangri-la when it turns out that listening in style drastically dropped down the price just this week to P19,950! So for the benefit of everyone else who finds the discussion of our good sirs here convincing to buy this great yamaha product, takbo na sa listening in style

haven't had the time to set it up yet though. can't wait for the edsa holiday.

tsaka i maxed out my resources so i wasn't able to buy the necessary cables yet. any tips on where i can get reasonably priced speaker cables and coaxial/optical cable that would match the rx-v650, if there's such a thing as matching cables?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gaol on Feb 23, 2005 at 08:35 AM
Wow, congrats, DOODZ. Very, very good price indeed!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 23, 2005 at 08:41 AM
bought the rx-v650 yesterday! i was just canvassing for prices sa shangri-la when it turns out that listening in style drastically dropped down the price just this week to P19,950! So for the benefit of everyone else who finds the discussion of our good sirs here convincing to buy this great yamaha product, takbo na sa listening in style

haven't had the time to set it up yet though. can't wait for the edsa holiday.

tsaka i maxed out my resources so i wasn't able to buy the necessary cables yet. any tips on where i can get reasonably priced speaker cables and coaxial/optical cable that would match the rx-v650, if there's such a thing as matching cables?

congrats d00dZ, on your yamaha. you've got quite a bargain there :) as for cables, try using generics muna. i got my 12ga audio pro from deeco, raon for 70/meter. you can get audio pro optical cables from ace hardware. or you can have a coaxial cable made for you by most specialty av shops.

2 more days before the edsa. im sure excited ka na hehehe
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Feb 23, 2005 at 10:15 AM
That's where you'll see the yamaha V650 power specs indicate 95watts for front, center and surround.  Nothing tells you if that's ALL channels driven.  Since it says "for front" i'd assume it was rated for 2 channels only. 

I guess the best way is to read reviews, huh?  ;D But so far, I've seen the 650 getting awards, but none for the 750. But what does 'minimum' mean actually? The specs say minimum RMS output power for front, center, surround, surround back. Thanks.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Feb 23, 2005 at 10:20 AM

On a different but probably related matter, when I switch the rx-v650 from 5.1 (DD or DTS) to 7.1 (DD-ES or DTS-ES matrix), I notice a slight dip in the volume level, my guess (because I don't have exact measurements to back this) is probably 0.5 - 1.0 dB in the volume setting. Very slight but still noticeable at first, but then immaterial once I get engrossed in what I'm watching. Any other rx-v650/750 owners notice this?


It's a fairly common observation for HT receivers to dip in perceived volume when shifting from stereo to prologic or 5.1 stereo/discrete, without increasing the volume setting.  That's because the same current (at the same volume setting) that was being eaten up for stereo now has to be spread to more channels.  The same is true when shifting from 5.1 to 6.1/7.1/9.1 etc.  Consequently, each channel ends up with less current.  SO you have to increase the volume setting.  All these channels share the same power supply.  That is why I personally consider it important to see the ALL Channels Driven clause when rating receiver power.  It just doesn't give the true picture when you rate a multichannel amp with only 2 channels driven and make the figure representaive for all the channels.  I don't suppose people buy multichannel gears just to listen in stereo.

It's entirely different when you have discrete amplifers or power supplies.  In my case, shifting from stereo to 5 channel stereo or.5.1 increased the perceived volume.  That's because I the DC current in stereo is maintained while the other signals go to the other channels that extract current from their own power supplies.  Just another advantage of going separates, IMO.  
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Feb 23, 2005 at 10:24 AM
bought the rx-v650 yesterday! i was just canvassing for prices sa shangri-la when it turns out that listening in style drastically dropped down the price just this week to P19,950! So for the benefit of everyone else who finds the discussion of our good sirs here convincing to buy this great yamaha product, takbo na sa listening in style

haven't had the time to set it up yet though. can't wait for the edsa holiday.

tsaka i maxed out my resources so i wasn't able to buy the necessary cables yet. any tips on where i can get reasonably priced speaker cables and coaxial/optical cable that would match the rx-v650, if there's such a thing as matching cables?

That's definitely a steal. To think I got mine for 25K last October. Well......

On the issue about cables, my sister, who's a licensed electrical engineer, said there's not much difference between flat cord wires and ordinary speaker wires. The most important factor is that the wires should be thick enough, so getting a thicker cable is generally better. And getting a good quality china made optical cable would also be good enough. Oh and ahh, my sister also told me that the only time oxygen free cables matter is when they are used to connect different components together. Just me (and my sister) though.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackryan on Feb 23, 2005 at 10:28 AM
Sorry, ahobbit, not as as rigorous or as scientific as that. At the store, we had both both receivers set at (what would be their) equivalent volume levels. The 650 simply sounded more powerful and had more grunt. When I saw the reviews afterwards, I assumed that the difference I heard could be attributed to that power difference. The speakers used were Monitor Audio Bronze series. True, the listening area was not ideal, but all things being equal, to my ears, the difference was noticeable enough for me to justify paying the price difference.

On a different but probably related matter, when I switch the rx-v650 from 5.1 (DD or DTS) to 7.1 (DD-ES or DTS-ES matrix), I notice a slight dip in the volume level, my guess (because I don't have exact measurements to back this) is probably 0.5 - 1.0 dB in the volume setting. Very slight but still noticeable at first, but then immaterial once I get engrossed in what I'm watching. Any other rx-v650/750 owners notice this?

Are you using "presence speakers" ? Would you know what wattage does this extra pair of audio ports provide or consumes?

-jackryan 8)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gaol on Feb 23, 2005 at 10:37 AM
Are you using "presence speakers" ? Would you know what wattage does this extra pair of audio ports provide or consumes?

-jackryan 8)

Pareng jackryan,

No presence speakers. If I'm not mistaken (need to re-read the manual for the 650), I think I can only use either or rear surround or presence, but not both. It might be different for the 750. I don't know the power consumption of the presence speakers.

So right now, I'm using the old Dai-Ichi made speakers I used to use for my pc as rear surrounds. Hinihintay ko pa yung m70 mo, hehe.  ;D

Cheers!
GAOL
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Feb 23, 2005 at 10:38 AM
Are you using "presence speakers" ? Would you know what wattage does this extra pair of audio ports provide or consumes?

-jackryan 8)

Sir Jack,
The 650 doesn't have a separate amp for the presence channels. It utilizes the power of the surround back speakers. The 650 only allows you to choose whether to use the surround back or the presence channels. I can't say that they share the power 'coz they don't. At different DSP modes, the amp automatically uses either the presence or surround back channels depending on what DSP mode you're using.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gaol on Feb 23, 2005 at 10:45 AM
Sir Jack,
The 650 doesn't have a separate amp for the presence channels. It utilizes the power of the surround back speakers. The 650 only allows you to choose whether to use the surround back or the presence channels. I can't say that they share the power 'coz they don't. At different DSP modes, the amp automatically uses either the presence or surround back channels depending on what DSP mode you're using.  ;D

Jackryan,

There you go, sinagot na ni arthurallan!  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gaol on Feb 23, 2005 at 10:49 AM
It's entirely different when you have discrete amplifers or power supplies.  In my case, shifting from stereo to 5 channel stereo or.5.1 more than doubles the perceived volume.  That's because I have a The DC current in stereo is maintained while the other signals go to the other channels that extract current from their own power supplies.  Just another advantage of going separates, IMO. 

That would be a dream upgrade for me. Stick with the excellent DSP and mult-channel steering of the yamaha: just pump up the power with 7 of the old, discontinued, 200watt musical fidelity x-a200 monoblocs if they could be had at a very good price. Kaya lang, wala na akong lugar for the amps, plus my bedroom will look weird with all those big cylinders on the floor, hehe.  O0
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Feb 23, 2005 at 11:03 AM
Pareng jackryan,

No presence speakers. If I'm not mistaken (need to re-read the manual for the 650), I think I can only use either or rear surround or presence, but not both. It might be different for the 750. I don't know the power consumption of the presence speakers.

So right now, I'm using the old Dai-Ichi made speakers I used to use for my pc as rear surrounds. Hinihintay ko pa yung m70 mo, hehe.  ;D

Cheers!
GAOL


You're correct bro, you can't use both at the same time. It's also the same deal with the 750, and the 1500 and even the 2500. The only true 9.1 amps from Yamaha are the RX-Z9, DSP-AZ1 (RX-Z1), and the DSP-AZ2. The others (like the 650, 750, 1500, and 2500) are 9.1 systems but only have 7 channel amplification. I wish there was a way to use an external amp for the amplification of the presence channels or the surround back channels. Maybe I should experiment if the the surround back pre-out is connected to the switching and if it ain't then maybe I can connect an external amp for the surround back channels.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Feb 23, 2005 at 11:06 AM
I guess the best way is to read reviews, huh?  ;D But so far, I've seen the 650 getting awards, but none for the 750. But what does 'minimum' mean actually? The specs say minimum RMS output power for front, center, surround, surround back. Thanks.  ;)

What I know is that the proper term is "Continuous"  Some use "Average",  "Average continuous "   Others use "continuous RMS."    So the word Minimum is used interchangeably with the others or in tandem.  And  if i were the marketing man behind the brand, I'd prefer "Minimum" as it somehow gives the impression to the general public  the gear is capable of giving more.  Also if the manufacturer wants to include a peak power rating or a maximum power rating, using the term "minimum" would make comparative sense.  

Amplifer power rating can be made at different current or volume settings for different THD values.  The manufacturer is free to determine which level he wants the rating to be done.  

Thus, a complete power rating for a stereo amp can be:  100 watts RMS per channel, continuous into 8 ohms,  at no more than 0.03% THD, from 20Hz to 20khz, both channels driven.

Or

100watts RMS x 2 all channels driven continuously into 8 ohms with <0.03% THD from 20hz to 20khz.

Take away any clause from this specification and the rating becomes totally USELESS and meaningless.  

That same amplifier can be rated as: 120 watts RMS per chanel, continuous into 8 ohms, at no more than 0.5% THD, from 20hz to 20khz, both channels driven.

That same amplifer can be rated as: 150 watts RMS per channel, continuous into 4ohms, at no more than 0.1% THD, from 20Hz to 20khz, both channels driven.

Hence, using the term "minimum" could very well represent the power figure taken at the lowest possible THD value without necessarily understating the power of the amp.  Because, if the manufacturer wants to be really hi-fi-ish, he could still go lower and quote a very nice THD figure, say 0.00001% THD.  But that could well correspond to a mere 10 watts RMS per channel.  ;D  And the amp just might price itself out of the market entirely.  



Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Feb 23, 2005 at 11:11 AM
Sir Jack,
The 650 doesn't have a separate amp for the presence channels. It utilizes the power of the surround back speakers. The 650 only allows you to choose whether to use the surround back or the presence channels. I can't say that they share the power 'coz they don't. At different DSP modes, the amp automatically uses either the presence or surround back channels depending on what DSP mode you're using.  ;D

Could be wrong but if i recall right based on what I read, it's either ZONE 2 or presence speakers.  Apparently the receiver has an extra  pair of power amps for zone 2 so you could have another source program selected for another room using the same reciever.  Most receivers with Zone 2 capabilieis have an extra pair of pre/power amps for this purpose.  This may be what the 650 uses for presence channels.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Feb 23, 2005 at 11:14 AM
What I know is that the proper term is "Continuous"  Some use "Average",  "Average continuous "   Others use "continuous RMS."    So the word Minimum is used interchangeably with the others or in tandem.  And  if i were the marketing man behind the brand, I'd prefer "Minimum" as it somehow gives the impression to the general public  the gear is capable of giving more.  Also if the manufacturer wants to include a peak power rating or a maximum power rating, using the term "minimum" would make comparative sense.  

Amplifer power rating can be made at different current or volume settings for different THD values.  The manufacturer is free to determine which level he wants the rating to be done.  

Thus, a complete power rating for a stereo amp can be:  100 watts RMS per channel, continuous into 8 ohms,  at no more than 0.03% THD, from 20Hz to 20khz, both channels driven.

Or

100watts RMS x 2 all channels driven continuously into 8 ohms with <0.03% THD from 20hz to 20khz.

Take away any clause from this specification and the rating becomes totally USELESS and meaningless.  

That same amplifier can be rated as: 120 watts RMS per chanel, continuous into 8 ohms, at no more than 0.5% THD, from 20hz to 20khz, both channels driven.

That same amplifer can be rated as: 150 watts RMS per channel, continuous into 4ohms, at no more than 0.1% THD, from 20Hz to 20khz, both channels driven.

Hence, using the term "minimum" could very well represent the power figure taken at the lowest possible THD value without necessarily understating the power of the amp.  Because, if the manufacturer wants to be really hi-fi-ish, he could still go lower and quote and very nice THD figure, say 0.00001% THD.  But that could well correspond to a mere 10 watts RMS per channel.  ;D  And the amp just might price itself out of the market entirely.  


Thanks, sir av, for always bringing to light the thoughts I have in my mind.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Compaq on Feb 23, 2005 at 11:27 AM
Whew!!!

I don't know how will I react to this... di ko alam kung papasalamatan ko kayo o magagalit ako sa inyo  ;D
I have an on-going house renovation project and I promised myself that I will upgrade my gears after this project. Pero ngayon, nangangati na ang kamay ko sa 650. Actually for the last few days na  ;D I'm not sure how I am going to convince my wife to get 650 now, habang ang gastos namin sa pagpapa-ayos ng bahay ay umaapaw. Something like "Hon, imagine from 25thou to 19+, big savings. Just for this week lang kaya we need to act fast"[/i]. Pwede na kaya yun?  ;D

Anyway, 'gave Mr. Sonny (Home Theater) a call and we had a very good discussion. It's inevitable, i'm going to get 650, bahala na kung paano ko ipapaliwanag kay misis :)

Cheers!!!

Compaq

Ey, pareng Gaol, sent u a pm

Cheers ulit!!!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 23, 2005 at 11:33 AM
sir Compaq, bili ka na rin ng first aid kit hehehe. para sa worst case scenario  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Feb 23, 2005 at 11:37 AM
Could be wrong but if i recall right based on what I read, it's either ZONE 2 or presence speakers.  Apparently the receiver has an extra  pair of power amps for zone 2 so you could have another source program selected for another room using the same reciever.  Most receivers with Zone 2 capabilieis have an extra pair of pre/power amps for this purpose.  This may be what the 650 uses for presence channels.

I think it says presence or zone 2 for us, canadian and australian models only. But I'll check if mine has this function. then maybe I can ask a technician to connect the presence pre out to this amp. At first, I thought, maybe I can use the speaker b amp for this purpose, but I also thought later that both a and b may be using just a single amp. Thanks, sir.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: taggart on Feb 23, 2005 at 12:21 PM
I guess the best way is to read reviews, huh?  ;D But so far, I've seen the 650 getting awards, but none for the 750. But what does 'minimum' mean actually? The specs say minimum RMS output power for front, center, surround, surround back. Thanks.  ;)

check out the home cinema choice on the internet(pdf) although it's for the dsp-ax750se(uk model)...they're almost identical minus the tuner i think. 

about the promo, i think audioworld is now also offering the same unit at the new price. kung saan tayo mas malapit hehe.

btw, after a few days with this monster(rx-v750) paired to my kef q30s i must say it's a bit harsh for music...maybe it's bec. i just used a HK prior to this. :P  used the front preouts and added my old pioneer amp and it sounds a lot better.  you can still use 6.1 on this too...just wire the surround back speaker to the left terminal.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Feb 23, 2005 at 12:45 PM
Sorry, ahobbit, not as as rigorous or as scientific as that. At the store, we had both both receivers set at (what would be their) equivalent volume levels. The 650 simply sounded more powerful and had more grunt. When I saw the reviews afterwards, I assumed that the difference I heard could be attributed to that power difference. The speakers used were Monitor Audio Bronze series. True, the listening area was not ideal, but all things being equal, to my ears, the difference was noticeable enough for me to justify paying the price difference.

On a different but probably related matter, when I switch the rx-v650 from 5.1 (DD or DTS) to 7.1 (DD-ES or DTS-ES matrix), I notice a slight dip in the volume level, my guess (because I don't have exact measurements to back this) is probably 0.5 - 1.0 dB in the volume setting. Very slight but still noticeable at first, but then immaterial once I get engrossed in what I'm watching. Any other rx-v650/750 owners notice this?


I can believe you heard the level difference - but not really on the power differences. I think you assumed that a -20dB in yamaha is similar to -20dB of Denon. Not quite, for their amps may have been of different sensitivitivities for such an assumption. Second, typically yamaha speaker out is 8ohm (is denon same?), and what about MA speakers - this could also play some trick.

On the RX-V650 suddenly going soft when switched to 7.1, do you have 7 speakers connected when you do the switching? If not, it is highly probable that some midrange signal were routed to the presence speakers. If you dont have the presence speakers connected, you may surely have the noticed dips. Of course, I am guessing on what actually transpired on your test.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Feb 23, 2005 at 12:50 PM
Bro Compaq,
Why not try my style? I told the wifey that I got my 650 as a second hand unit for just 13K, that made her think it was a deal that shouldn't be missed, I had to hide the receipt and the warranty certificate though. Hehehe.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Feb 23, 2005 at 12:55 PM
It's a fairly common observation for HT receivers to dip in perceived volume when shifting from stereo to prologic or 5.1 stereo/discrete, without increasing the volume setting.  That's because the same current (at the same volume setting) that was being eaten up for stereo now has to be spread to more channels.  The same is true when shifting from 5.1 to 6.1/7.1/9.1 etc.  Consequently, each channel ends up with less current.  SO you have to increase the volume setting.  All these channels share the same power supply.  That is why I personally consider it important to see the ALL Channels Driven clause when rating receiver power.  It just doesn't give the true picture when you rate a multichannel amp with only 2 channels driven and make the figure representaive for all the channels.  I don't suppose people buy multichannel gears just to listen in stereo.

It's entirely different when you have discrete amplifers or power supplies.  In my case, shifting from stereo to 5 channel stereo or.5.1 more than doubles the perceived volume.  That's because I have a The DC current in stereo is maintained while the other signals go to the other channels that extract current from their own power supplies.  Just another advantage of going separates, IMO.  

Not true at listening level - probably true when you are in the rated power levels already which is hardly the case.

If my yamaha is rated 75W/ch stereo and 37.5W/ch for 6 channels, then I have my PSU reserve of 225watts. If my listening level, says 16watts to an 86dB speaker, this will give me 98dB sound pressure - loud already. having it drive 5channels, it will only get 80watts, leaving 145watts still with PSU capability.

Thus, if I am listening stereo at 16W, and suddenly shifted to 5channels, my volume would not change as explained above. And to think the surrounds do not have continuous material to play.

What I can offer is perhaps the experimenter shifted from PCM to DD or DTS. They might have different signal output levels feeding the amps section being different formats.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Feb 23, 2005 at 12:58 PM
I guess the best way is to read reviews, huh?  ;D But so far, I've seen the 650 getting awards, but none for the 750. But what does 'minimum' mean actually? The specs say minimum RMS output power for front, center, surround, surround back. Thanks.  ;)

'guaranteed"
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: voj on Feb 23, 2005 at 01:21 PM
I don't know if this is relevant.  As I recall, there are models with front effects. Is this what you call presence.

A Zone 2 system, on the other hand, gives you the ability to play a DIFFERENT machine projected to another location, if I remember correctly, there are wires you need to run to the other room, but you need ANOTHER amplifier to power the set of speakers on the other room.  As I remember, you also need infrared receivers connected from the other room to the main room to be able to control the equipment from the other side with a dedicated remote.  Hindi ko na matandaan, I bought most of the infrared requirements but haven't gotten around to connecting it as I do not need an additional set up.  With a zone 2 system, you do not need to have duplicate set of players, VHS, etc.  Tagal na nung project na-shelve, hopefully tama recollection ko.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Feb 23, 2005 at 01:45 PM
I don't know if this is relevant.  As I recall, there are models with front effects. Is this what you call presence.

A Zone 2 system, on the other hand, gives you the ability to play a DIFFERENT machine projected to another location, if I remember correctly, there are wires you need to run to the other room, but you need ANOTHER amplifier to power the set of speakers on the other room.  As I remember, you also need infrared receivers connected from the other room to the main room to be able to control the equipment from the other side with a dedicated remote.  Hindi ko na matandaan, I bought most of the infrared requirements but haven't gotten around to connecting it as I do not need an additional set up.  With a zone 2 system, you do not need to have duplicate set of players, VHS, etc.  Tagal na nung project na-shelve, hopefully tama recollection ko.

Yep, that's what they used to call it, front effects, now it's presence. We only considered the zone 2 option since we wanted to be able to amplify the presence channels at the same time with the surround back channels.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gaol on Feb 23, 2005 at 02:47 PM
I can believe you heard the level difference - but not really on the power differences. I think you assumed that a -20dB in yamaha is similar to -20dB of Denon. Not quite, for their amps may have been of different sensitivitivities for such an assumption. Second, typically yamaha speaker out is 8ohm (is denon same?), and what about MA speakers - this could also play some trick.

We made sure to account for the difference in their volume range (so both were at different settings) to level somewhat the playing field. Whether or not, at any particular volume setting, one or the other was more sensitive, etc., was beyond the scope of my simple, and certainly, subjective, A-B comparison.  :)

On the RX-V650 suddenly going soft when switched to 7.1, do you have 7 speakers connected when you do the switching? . . . Of course, I am guessing on what actually transpired on your test.

Yes, I had 7 speakers connected.  :)

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gaol on Feb 23, 2005 at 03:03 PM
I guess the best way is to read reviews, huh?  ;D But so far, I've seen the 650 getting awards, but none for the 750. But what does 'minimum' mean actually? The specs say minimum RMS output power for front, center, surround, surround back. Thanks.  ;)

I think What Hifi favors the 750 or 650. Most of the reviews I've read that awarded the 650 singled out the yamaha's superb multi-channel processing performance and features more than its power, as can be seen from the following excerpt from What Video and Widesreen (which awarded it a Best Buy):

"The amplifiers built into the RX-V650 are
fine but soft and not the most powerful
around. This is more than mitigated by the
excellent performance of the processor,
which is a real class winner. This processor
power comes across as excellent steering,
and near-perfect seamlessness from
speaker to speaker. The amplifiers within
the V650 are more than good enough to
cope with and highlight the benefits of
such an excellent processor. In fact, it’s
only when playing multichannel music or
playing the system at very high volume
levels that the limitations of the amplifiers
begin to show, as the sound hardens up
and the detail tends toward brightness."
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Feb 23, 2005 at 03:39 PM
"The amplifiers built into the RX-V650 are
fine but soft and not the most powerful
around. This is more than mitigated by the
excellent performance of the processor,
which is a real class winner. This processor
power comes across as excellent steering,
and near-perfect seamlessness from
speaker to speaker. The amplifiers within
the V650 are more than good enough to
cope with and highlight the benefits of
such an excellent processor. In fact, it’s
only when playing multichannel music or
playing the system at very high volume
levels that the limitations of the amplifiers
begin to show, as the sound hardens up
and the detail tends toward brightness."

That's why many practical audiophiles use receivers of such caliber as preamp/processors.  Then use external power amps with better specs and power.   They get excellent performance without spending twice for separate preamps/processors. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackryan on Feb 23, 2005 at 03:43 PM
Whew!!!

I don't know how will I react to this... di ko alam kung papasalamatan ko kayo o magagalit ako sa inyo  ;D
I have an on-going house renovation project and I promised myself that I will upgrade my gears after this project. Pero ngayon, nangangati na ang kamay ko sa 650. Actually for the last few days na  ;D I'm not sure how I am going to convince my wife to get 650 now, habang ang gastos namin sa pagpapa-ayos ng bahay ay umaapaw. Something like "Hon, imagine from 25thou to 19+, big savings. Just for this week lang kaya we need to act fast"[/i]. Pwede na kaya yun?  ;D

Anyway, 'gave Mr. Sonny (Home Theater) a call and we had a very good discussion. It's inevitable, i'm going to get 650, bahala na kung paano ko ipapaliwanag kay misis :)

Cheers!!!

Compaq

Ey, pareng Gaol, sent u a pm

Cheers ulit!!!

Pare, just go for it. Tell the wife that it's part of your over-all renovation / finishing costs ;-) How much are you able to get the same RX-V650 from Sonny???

-jackryan 8)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackryan on Feb 23, 2005 at 03:51 PM
RX-V750

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/receivers/RXV750.htm

RX-V650

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/receivers/RXV650.htm
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Feb 23, 2005 at 04:12 PM
Not true at listening level - probably true when you are in the rated power levels already which is hardly the case.


My listening level is quite loud.  My previous Onkyo HT receiver volume was already at the 2 o'clock postion which I figure already eats up 75% of the power reserves in stereo still below clipping.  Then, shifting to 5 channel stereo diminished the perceived volume for the fronts at that point.  BTW, it's in 5-channel stereo where you perceive the difference, not so much in surround mode.   That's because the rear channels should now be extracting the same current as the fronts.  75% + 75% = 150%.  But the power reserves just don't know where to get another 50%. It was obviously starving so the volume had to give way instead.

With the same setting using separate power amps, the perceived volume increased,  maybe around 3db more.    The loudness on the front volume didn't diminish. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Compaq on Feb 23, 2005 at 05:28 PM
Pare, just go for it. Tell the wife that it's part of your over-all renovation / finishing costs ;-) How much are you able to get the same RX-V650 from Sonny???

-jackryan 8)

Mr. jackryan, I went to HT earlier (lunch time) and placed my order. Gave Sonny a call few minutes ago and the unit is already in his shop...  ;D Got it for a very special price, "pinoydvd" price.

Thanks to bumblebee, arthurallanj and you, i'll take note of your suggestions regarding the wife  ;D Actually, the problem is, with this purchase, hindi na ka makakareklamo na wala na akong pera kasi nakabili pa ako nang bagong receiver  ;D

Mr. gaol, thanks also for your tips. Nice talking to your for about what, 20 - 30 mins. :)

Happy Weekend na mga bossing, I AM GOING TO TAKE A LEAVE TOMORROW!!! (kasi may pasa ako sa mukha hehehe)

Thank you guys, I enjoyed reading your posts since Monday. And to d00dz, thanks for sharing the news, napa-bili tuloy ako hehe.

Cheers!!!

Compaq
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Chito C. on Feb 23, 2005 at 05:50 PM
SARS ATTACK!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackryan on Feb 23, 2005 at 05:53 PM
RX-V750

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/receivers/RXV750.htm

RX-V650

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/receivers/RXV650.htm
From these official Yamaha sites, it shows rating using 7 channels and not just 5 channels.

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/compare/receiver_18.htm

-jackryan 8)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Feb 23, 2005 at 06:02 PM
That's why many practical audiophiles use receivers of such caliber as preamp/processors.  Then use external power amps with better specs and power.   They get excellent performance without spending twice for separate preamps/processors. 

Way to go, bro!

that's why I dont love my yamaha amps!  ::)  - I love its processors  ;D. and have the GC in the pre-outs declare to my ears the sonic excellence of all formats.  8). CHEAP! CHEAP! CHEAP!  ;)

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: allenars on Feb 24, 2005 at 06:23 PM
kumusta......does anybody has the RXV1300? because I want to have feedback on how I can improve the settings on it para mas gaganda ang tunog.......I match it with a complete set of M5 Series including yun mission sub na 350W

pa share naman ng inputs....thanks :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Compaq on Mar 01, 2005 at 08:39 AM
Heads Up!!!

I really had a wonderful weekend... with my new 650 :)

Indeed a big improvement. It's night and day compared to my old but reliable 795a. YPAO is superb!!!
Channel separation is very good (tried p-discs and orig). I'm very happy though the decision is somewhat "spur of the moment", it's definitely no regrets. Good news, no problem with "the wife" :).

Cheers!!!
Compaq
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: erworm on Mar 01, 2005 at 09:14 AM
hi guys! really new in setting up my own HT... been using a promac T for the past year... just wanted to ask how much is the cheapest yamaha AVR (w/ DTS and DD5.1)? I have a budget of aroun 35k for everything (speakers - tower sana ang front and avr... no need for DVD player muna :) )... kasya kaya? What speakers should I get within that price range?

Thanks a lot guys!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 01, 2005 at 09:48 AM
hi guys! really new in setting up my own HT... been using a promac T for the past year... just wanted to ask how much is the cheapest yamaha AVR (w/ DTS and DD5.1)? I have a budget of aroun 35k for everything (speakers - tower sana ang front and avr... no need for DVD player muna :) )... kasya kaya? What speakers should I get within that price range?

Thanks a lot guys!

go to spectra, park square 1. ask for these:

wharfedale diamond 9.4 (towers)    ~9700
wharfedale diamond 9.cs (center)    ~5000
wharfedale diamond 9.1 (rears)       ~5500
yamaha rxv-350                             ~13000
-----------------------------------------------------------
                                                       ~33200

the matching sub would be the wharfedale sw150 for 9k. but you can always look around the buy and sell section for better deals. you can change the rears para mas makamura ;D

hope that helps.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: garee on Mar 01, 2005 at 09:51 AM
for the receiver,  Yamaha RXV-450 is almost P15,000
for the speaker you can get the Wharfedale Diamond 9 HT 5.1 speaker package for P18,000 at Spectra.
this is enough for a 10-15 sqm. room

speaker consist of 
(http://img91.exs.cx/img91/2019/diamond-9.jpg)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackryan on Mar 01, 2005 at 10:00 AM
Heads Up!!!

I really had a wonderful weekend... with my new 650 :)

Indeed a big improvement. It's night and day compared to my old but reliable 795a. YPAO is superb!!!
Channel separation is very good (tried p-discs and orig). I'm very happy though the decision is somewhat "spur of the moment", it's definitely no regrets. Good news, no problem with "the wife" :).

Cheers!!!
Compaq

Hey Compaq,

Nice to hear about this... I didn't realized earlier that you also were using a RX-V795a before. I also had the same model before I switched to the RX-V750 early this year !
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 01, 2005 at 11:16 AM
go to spectra, park square 1. ask for these:

wharfedale diamond 9.4 (towers) ~9700
wharfedale diamond 9.cs (center) ~5000
wharfedale diamond 9.1 (rears) ~5500
yamaha rxv-350 ~13000
-----------------------------------------------------------
 ~33200

the matching sub would be the wharfedale sw150 for 9k. but you can always look around the buy and sell section for better deals. you can change the rears para mas makamura ;D

hope that helps.


or you can substitute the Whafedale WH-2 center and surrounds package (P4,500) for the 9.cs and the 9.1, to save about P6,000. however, i think garee is right, go for the RX-V450 na! at least 6.1 is the way to go. or step up to RX-V650 for 7.1 (P19,950 sa listening in style shangri-la, which is what kept me occupied the whole day yesterday in sonic bliss hehe)



Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 01, 2005 at 11:19 AM
mga sirs, sa ating pinakamamahal na rx-v650, what's the difference between straight and pure direct? other than the trippy blue light of the pure direct button, di ba conceptually the same lang to soundwise? thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gaol on Mar 01, 2005 at 12:38 PM
Heads Up!!!

I really had a wonderful weekend... with my new 650 :)

Indeed a big improvement. It's night and day compared to my old but reliable 795a. YPAO is superb!!!
Channel separation is very good (tried p-discs and orig). I'm very happy though the decision is somewhat "spur of the moment", it's definitely no regrets. Good news, no problem with "the wife" :).

Cheers!!!
Compaq

Congratulations, pareng Compaq!

I was about to text you re your weekend with the 650. I'm glad to have helped you in your decision-making. And I'm happy that you're very happy with it!  ;D

GAOL


Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: erworm on Mar 01, 2005 at 02:53 PM
thanks guys!

thanks for the quotations!

kung diamond 8 series ok rin ba? available pa rin ba ito? di naman malaking malaki yung room... pero I really want tower fronts for future houses :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Chito C. on Mar 01, 2005 at 02:56 PM
Diamond 8.3 near at sound dimensions near spectra less than 7 k.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 01, 2005 at 02:57 PM
ot, diamond 8 grills suck >:( yung grills lang ha?  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: erworm on Mar 01, 2005 at 03:12 PM
Diamond 8.3 near at sound dimensions near spectra less than 7 k.

thanks again!!!

ot, diamond 8 grills suck >:( yung grills lang ha?  ;D

ok lang yun :) puwede namang tangaling diba? tapos ibalik kung di gagamitin :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Compaq on Mar 01, 2005 at 05:33 PM
Hey Compaq,

Nice to hear about this... I didn't realized earlier that you also were using a RX-V795a before. I also had the same model before I switched to the RX-V750 early this year !

Hi jackryan. I've been using 795a for almost five years. With the acquisition (of 650), the 795a will be used in my bedroom after our house renovation. Dapat may loyalty award tayo sa Yamaha niyan :)

By the way, I remember you were looking for a remote (for 795a) before. Were you able to get one? Where? How Much? Thanks Man!!!


Congratulations, pareng Compaq!

I was about to text you re your weekend with the 650. I'm glad to have helped you in your decision-making. And I'm happy that you're very happy with it!  ;D

GAOL

Mr. Gaol. Can't be happier with the performance of 650. Thanks again for your inputs. Can't wait for another looong weekend. Hmmm, maybe I should make another one by taking another weekend leave  ;D

Cheers!!!
Compaq
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackryan on Mar 01, 2005 at 05:36 PM
I got it in the US for about US$ 25 slightly used a few years back. My father-in-law helped looked for it in Los Angeles area.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Compaq on Mar 01, 2005 at 05:50 PM
Thanks for the info jackryan. Looks like, I just have to live with the condition of my 795a's remote. Ok naman siya except tanggal na yung takip nang battery, pudpod na yung goma, kupas na yung kulay, pero okay naman sya  ;D

Cheers!!!
Compaq
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Mar 02, 2005 at 09:53 AM
mga sirs, sa ating pinakamamahal na rx-v650, what's the difference between straight and pure direct? other than the trippy blue light of the pure direct button, di ba conceptually the same lang to soundwise? thanks.

The Pure Direct Mode channels all power to amplification of the source, it even automatically turns off the display after a few seconds to utilize the power for that, too, turning on only when an adjustment is made. Straight means no enhancement or DSProcessing is used. The source is only amplified, no additional spices, ika nga. In theory, they won't sound the same, but..... soundwise, probably yes, the difference also probably noticeable only at higher volumes when all the power is needed.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Mar 02, 2005 at 09:56 AM
So, Sir Compaq, what was your alibi?  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Mar 02, 2005 at 10:47 AM
The Pure Direct Mode channels all power to amplification of the source, it even automatically turns off the display after a few seconds to utilize the power for that, too, turning on only when an adjustment is made. Straight means no enhancement or DSProcessing is used. The source is only amplified, no additional spices, ika nga. In theory, they won't sound the same, but..... soundwise, probably yes, the difference also probably noticeable only at higher volumes when all the power is needed.  ;D

In pure direct mode or stereo mode, the display is turned off in some recievers or amps not to divert the power (display current is so small to matter) but to turn off all video related circuits that incurr some noise, thus, preserving the purity of the musical signal.  Also video switching and digital processing circuits are also bypassed or turned off for the same reasons. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 02, 2005 at 11:51 AM
The Pure Direct Mode channels all power to amplification of the source, it even automatically turns off the display after a few seconds to utilize the power for that, too, turning on only when an adjustment is made. Straight means no enhancement or DSProcessing is used. The source is only amplified, no additional spices, ika nga. In theory, they won't sound the same, but..... soundwise, probably yes, the difference also probably noticeable only at higher volumes when all the power is needed. ;D

In pure direct mode or stereo mode, the display is turned off in some recievers or amps not to divert the power (display current is so small to matter) but to turn off all video related circuits that incurr some noise, thus, preserving the purity of the musical signal.  Also video switching and digital processing circuits are also bypassed or turned off for the same reasons. 

So if i want it clean, straight mode would be good enough. But if I want it laba-sa-tide clean, I can go for pure direct. ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Compaq on Mar 02, 2005 at 01:54 PM
So, Sir Compaq, what was your alibi?  ;D

Hi arthurallanj, Hmmmm, no problem at all. I think she can feel that i'm very happy and satisfied with it and she doesn't want to spoil my excitement :) Actually, she too was amazed with 650's performance. Kaya ayos na ayos! :)  Ang hindi ayos, napansin niya na ang daming nadagdag na dvds sa cabinet, ang lalaki pa nang box hehehehe, nahiritan ako nang "dami mo pala pera eh"

Cheers!!!
Compaq
Title: yamaha rx-v2500
Post by: dimple_guy0619 on Mar 02, 2005 at 03:14 PM
TRY THIS NEW YAMAHA RECEIVER.... GREAT RECEIVER. JUST BOUGHT LAST WEEK


RX-V2500

High sound quality, superior performance and surround realism are the result of the advanced technology that is part of the RX-V2500 digital home theater receiver.

Major features include 7-channel discrete amplification (130W x 7), Yamaha’s Digital ToP-ART design concept, YPAO (Yamaha Parametric Room Acoustic Optimizer), Quad-Field CINEMA DSP, 19 surround programs, full movie sound format compatibility as well as THX Select processing, SILENT CINEMA, Night Listening Mode, 9 channel speaker outputs with Zone2 out, and component video up conversion for optimum video quality.

Features for convenient operation include extensive menus, front panel video Aux optical input terminal and a direct access remote control. This top-class receiver also provides a variety of features for setting up a multi-room custom installation.

Other RX-V2500 Features


Accurate Touch Volume Control

YPAO Room Sound Optimization Makes the Most of this Receiver’s High
Sound Quality and Surround Realism. 
 
7-Channel 1,260W Powerful Surround Sound (180W x 7 Max)
 Digital ToP-ART and High Current Amplification
 Pure Direct Switch for High Quality 2-Channel and Multi-Channel Sound Reproduction 
 192 kHz/24-Bit DACs for All Channels 
 YPAO Automatically Sets Best Sound for Any Room, Any Speaker Placement 
 On-Screen Display with GUI (Graphical User Interface) 
 RS-232C Interface
 9-Channel Speaker Terminals including Presence Speaker Terminals
 3 Component Video Inputs
 Dolby Pro Logic IIx and DTS 96/24 Compatibility
 Audio Delay for Adjusting Lip-Sync (0–240ms)
 Selectable 9-Band Subwoofer Crossover / Subwoofer Phase Select
 34 Surround Programs (58 Variations) with 2 THX Select Programs
 Night Listening Enhancer and SILENT CINEMA
 Component Video Up Conversion
 HDTV (720p/1080i) Compatibility
 Wide-Range Video Bandwidth (60MHz -3 dB)
 Analog Mixdown

LINKS:

http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/index.html

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/reviews/pdf_reviews/RXV2500_review.pdf
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dexterc on Mar 02, 2005 at 08:41 PM
Hi arthurallanj, Hmmmm, no problem at all. I think she can feel that i'm very happy and satisfied with it and she doesn't want to spoil my excitement :) Actually, she too was amazed with 650's performance. Kaya ayos na ayos! :)  Ang hindi ayos, napansin niya na ang daming nadagdag na dvds sa cabinet, ang lalaki pa nang box hehehehe, nahiritan ako nang "dami mo pala pera eh"

Cheers!!!
Compaq

Totoo naman kasi na dami mo pera eh  ;D

congrats sa new toy mo
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jeckjeck on Mar 02, 2005 at 09:46 PM
Hi arthurallanj, Hmmmm, no problem at all. I think she can feel that i'm very happy and satisfied with it and she doesn't want to spoil my excitement :) Actually, she too was amazed with 650's performance. Kaya ayos na ayos! :)  Ang hindi ayos, napansin niya na ang daming nadagdag na dvds sa cabinet, ang lalaki pa nang box hehehehe, nahiritan ako nang "dami mo pala pera eh"

Cheers!!!
Compaq

Congrats Compaq! 6.1 ba or 7.1 yung 650?
My kasama ba sya na YPAO?  ;D

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gaol on Mar 02, 2005 at 10:19 PM
Congrats Compaq! 6.1 ba or 7.1 yung 650?
My kasama ba sya na YPAO?  ;D



Jeck, the 650 is 7.1 and it has YPAO, although without the room equalization that I think is present in the YPAO of the higher end models.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jeckjeck on Mar 02, 2005 at 11:10 PM
Jeck, the 650 is 7.1 and it has YPAO, although without the room equalization that I think is present in the YPAO of the higher end models.


Thanks sir... I was considering the 450 kasi for my upgrade but I think it makes more sense now to get this one...  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gaol on Mar 03, 2005 at 01:31 PM
Thanks sir... I was considering the 450 kasi for my upgrade but I think it makes more sense now to get this one...  ;D

Yes, especially if the lowered price of P19+K is still in effect. Konti na lang dagdag mo from the 450.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Compaq on Mar 03, 2005 at 03:11 PM
Totoo naman kasi na dami mo pera eh  ;D

congrats sa new toy mo

Ey dexterc, thanks pre. Kumusta na? Funds diversion lang pre  ;D

Congrats Compaq! 6.1 ba or 7.1 yung 650?
My kasama ba sya na YPAO?  ;D

Hi jeckjeck,

Sorry, ngayon ko lang nakita message mo. Thanks to ever-reliable gaol for attending to your queries. Go for the 650 instead of 450! You may want to give Sonny (The Home Theater) a call for a special "Pinoydvd" price.

Cheers!!!
Compaq

 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Mar 04, 2005 at 09:49 AM
Congrats Compaq! 6.1 ba or 7.1 yung 650?
My kasama ba sya na YPAO?  ;D



The 650 is actually a 9.1 receiver but only has a 7 channel amp, so you can only switch the power to either the front presence or the back surrounds. And yes, it has YPAO.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Mar 04, 2005 at 09:54 AM
Hi arthurallanj, Hmmmm, no problem at all. I think she can feel that i'm very happy and satisfied with it and she doesn't want to spoil my excitement :) Actually, she too was amazed with 650's performance. Kaya ayos na ayos! :)  Ang hindi ayos, napansin niya na ang daming nadagdag na dvds sa cabinet, ang lalaki pa nang box hehehehe, nahiritan ako nang "dami mo pala pera eh"

Cheers!!!
Compaq

We kinda have the same problem, oftentimes, I have to hide some purchased DVDs from the wifey, ganun din kasi minsan naririning ko e, "Bumili ka ng DVD? May pera ka?". I still have the WH2 surrounds at the office and haven't brought it home for the bedroom set up since I still don't have an alibi as to how I was able to purchase it on my own. He he.  ;D >:D Oh and ahh, the wife is always proud of our home theater.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Chito C. on Mar 04, 2005 at 10:07 AM
Magaya nga!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackryan on Mar 04, 2005 at 10:17 AM
The 650 is actually a 9.1 receiver but only has a 7 channel amp, so you can only switch the power to either the front presence or the back surrounds. And yes, it has YPAO.  ;D

yup, this is confirmed. rx-v650 is almost the same for rx-v750 but best bang for the buck !
Title: Re: yamaha rx-v2500
Post by: jackryan on Mar 04, 2005 at 10:38 AM
It seems that the RX-V2500 is very similar to the RX-V750 except for the channel wattage... what else am I missing since I have the RX-V750 ?  ::)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kuyarubs on Mar 04, 2005 at 10:58 AM
sirs jackryan & compaq,
may i get your comments on the difference in sound between the 795a and the newer models if there are any. i too have a yamaha 795a and is considering upgrading to a 7.1 rxv-750 or 650 or 1500. also, i find the 795a sounding a bit bright on music when i changed to b&w speakers. i have read that yamaha has improved on music reproduction since the 795a came out. is there some truth to this or just an advertising hipe.
thanks and have a nice day.
Title: Re: yamaha rx-v2500
Post by: arthurallanj on Mar 04, 2005 at 11:10 AM
It seems that the RX-V2500 is very similar to the RX-V750 except for the channel wattage... what else am I missing since I have the RX-V750 ?  ::)

Just a little more power and a THX certification. Does that seem necessary to you? Not to me. Just me though.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dyobbs on Mar 04, 2005 at 12:59 PM
I don't have both models, but based on heresay and what are published on the net, Yamaha HT receivers often have more bells and whistles for the same price range.  And apart from the many DSP modes for which Yamaha is famous for, it has some interesting features like YPAO with which you can tailor your room accoustic response The v650 is mid-priced and has this feature.

Just some caution when comparing power specs, HK is conservatively rated, together with NAD and Rotel.  Yamaha is not, so that its 100wpc may just sound as powerful as  HK's or NAD's 60wpc.  But you can put power safely aside as I am sure all these HT receivers can deliver the SPLs in a typical AV room.  

HK's high current abilities have proven to be excellent in audio.  And anything good in audio is also good in HT. The reverse is not always true.  But Yamaha can also excel in audio.   Their newer models claim to be high current as well (only now).

Since you plan to use it 90% HT, I don't think you can go wrong with a Yamaha.  The model you have in mind for HK seems to be more than a year old, if not mistaken,  the newer model is AVR-235.  Tthe yammie v650 is a bit more recent.  Powerwise, they are about the same.  In terms of features, both supports all the known audio formats but the HK seemed quite bare compared with the Yammie whose specs as shown on the net seemed quite impressive: YPAO, 192/24 DAC for all channels, 9-point selectable bass crossover, 9-speaker terminals with option for a revolutionary presence channels on the 8th and 9th instead of zone 2, auido delay for lip-synchronization,  s-video upconversion and Cinema DSP with about 30 surround modes.

As an HT toy, I think you can have more fun and a varied listening experience with the Yammie.  Just my observation.





Sir AV,

I'm trying to get a yamaha rxv-650 with MS Speakers, will this be a good pair? I'm looking for ms-904 or ms-906 for my front, ms-905 for my center and ms-903 for my surrounds. I'm looking for your expert opinion.

dyob



Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: robrey on Mar 04, 2005 at 02:28 PM
dyobbs,

Those are nice speakers, pero for me i have a yamaha rxv-440 and ms 904, ganda sa movies pero sa music bitin yung bass so i bought a sub (dtx 4.10). Maybe ms 906 is much better.
 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Compaq on Mar 04, 2005 at 02:36 PM
sirs jackryan & compaq,
may i get your comments on the difference in sound between the 795a and the newer models if there are any. i too have a yamaha 795a and is considering upgrading to a 7.1 rxv-750 or 650 or 1500. also, i find the 795a sounding a bit bright on music when i changed to b&w speakers. i have read that yamaha has improved on music reproduction since the 795a came out. is there some truth to this or just an advertising hipe.
thanks and have a nice day.

Hi kuyarubs

795a was my companion for at least 4 years (can't remember when I got it, dec2000 or dec2001) and will continue to be with me as my bedroom setup. Compared with newer models, 650 in particular ('coz this is what I have now), I can say that the audio (music) reproduction has dramatically improved. Yup, it (795a) tend to be bright most of the times, match it with b&w 602 with metal dome tweeters, you should know how to tame it. :)

Maybe that was the reason why I was looking for a second amp then, to satisfy my audio/music listening. I bought a used H/K avr20 mkII from a member, xXx, formerly known as MuscleBoy (who is already in Canada) to have a separate setup for audio. As expected, it performed better than 795a, my speaker then was Yamaha-ns55.

'Di naman sa inaapi ko ang 795a but admittedly, a number of AVRs can beat this amp in terms of audio/music reproduction. :) But with 650, we're going to see a very good and tight fight  :D For the past nights, i've been listening to my cds and I really can say that the 650's audio performance is not just different from 795a, it's also better, way, way better. :)

jackryan may have a different story, let's hear (or read) what he has to say.

Cheers!!!
Compaq




 
Title: Re: yamaha rx-v2500
Post by: garee on Mar 04, 2005 at 03:08 PM
how much does it cost compare to 650 or 750?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dyobbs on Mar 04, 2005 at 03:33 PM
dyobbs,

Those are nice speakers, pero for me i have a yamaha rxv-440 and ms 904, ganda sa movies pero sa music bitin yung bass so i bought a sub (dtx 4.10). Maybe ms 906 is much better.
 


Salamat robrey.. how much yung dtx 4.10? what are its specs? mukhang i have to provision myself in buying a SUB as well ;)

cheers!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: keema on Mar 04, 2005 at 04:41 PM
how much is the rxv 650 and the 750? where can i find one? are they both good in audio?
also, which is a good sub...the US-512MK or the DTX 4.10?

 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackryan on Mar 04, 2005 at 04:55 PM
how much is the rxv 650 and the 750? where can i find one? are they both good in audio?
also, which is a good sub...the US-512MK or the DTX 4.10?

 

I am satisfied with my RX-V750 for both HT and Music.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gaol on Mar 04, 2005 at 05:10 PM
how much is the rxv 650 and the 750? where can i find one? are they both good in audio?
also, which is a good sub...the US-512MK or the DTX 4.10?

 

Doodz and Compaq just got their 650s for a fabulous sale price of P19K+  (the regular price was around P24-25K). If the sale that started last week is still on, this is the best bang for the buck.

The 750 is around P30K I think.

 
 

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 04, 2005 at 07:08 PM
Doodz and Compaq just got their 650s for a fabulous sale price of P19K+  (the regular price was around P24-25K). If the sale that started last week is still on, this is the best bang for the buck.

The 750 is around P30K I think.

 
 



hey keema, the 650 indeed is the bang for the buck receiver of the moment. the audio is not too warm, but of course you can't expect tube amp quality warmth from a low-to-mid market receiver.

the 650 and 750 are mostly the same, except for 5 more watts per ch @ 20hz to 20khz, 8 ohms (what difference will that make?!  :P), lcd remote, component video up conversion, and phono input.

you can get the 750 at any branch of ambassador appliances at P25K flat, maybe lower if you can speak Chinese.
Title: Re: yamaha rx-v2500
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 04, 2005 at 07:22 PM
Wow, THX  :o

If I only had the moolah okay to. In that alternative universe, I'll have THX-certified speakers, THX-certified cables, THX-certified coasters and throw pillows...

But yun nga, except for the THX and the higher wattage, most features are pretty much the same with the 650/750. This is the model pala that has a GUI for an OSD. I saw one model like this when I bought my 650. Bangis. Mouse na lang kulang  ;D

Title: Re: yamaha rx-v2500
Post by: arthurallanj on Mar 05, 2005 at 09:00 AM
how much does it cost compare to 650 or 750?

This is just a guess, but I think it's about 35K++.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Mar 05, 2005 at 09:13 AM
dyobbs,

Those are nice speakers, pero for me i have a yamaha rxv-440 and ms 904, ganda sa movies pero sa music bitin yung bass so i bought a sub (dtx 4.10). Maybe ms 906 is much better.
 

The Yamaha x40 series have been a bit weak in music reproduction, like its earlier brethren. Yamaha has always been very firm about their 'NATURAL SOUND' philosophy. It's only been with the x50 series that audio reproduction has improved, the sound seems to have more body now with these series than with previous ones. I have the 440 in my bedroom too, and the 650 at my living room. I've also heard the 450 and compared it with the 440 using the same audio material and the same set up. The x50 is definitely an improvement in audio reproduction.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Mar 05, 2005 at 09:18 AM
how much is the rxv 650 and the 750? where can i find one? are they both good in audio?
also, which is a good sub...the US-512MK or the DTX 4.10?

 

I'd choose the 4.10 over the 512. The 512 is definitely powerful, but this bandpass sub lacks accuracy. The front firing 4.10 would sound more accurate and still have power, but why not get a 4.12? Just me, though.  ;D And yes, both are good in audio, an improvement, at least.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: keema on Mar 06, 2005 at 08:38 AM
sirs, san ba yang ambassador appliances  na yan? halos parehas din pala yung 650 sa 750.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: zap|JDM on Mar 06, 2005 at 05:47 PM
sa shangri-la mall meron, 2nd level i think, near Lucerne and Cibo.  meron din sa parksquare 1 and greenhills.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: robrey on Mar 07, 2005 at 09:51 AM
dyobbs
 
Bought the 4.10 last year for less that 6k sa raon, forgot the shop though, i'll check the receipt as soon as I got home. basta sa baba lng ng Daichi sa raon yung shop, mas mura doon kesa moses aaron na shop.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: robrey on Mar 07, 2005 at 09:56 AM
arthurallanj,

Sir pwede na kayang pantapat yung x5 series ng yamaha sa hk sa audio?
 
 
 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Compaq on Mar 07, 2005 at 10:36 AM
how much is the rxv 650 and the 750? where can i find one? are they both good in audio?
also, which is a good sub...the US-512MK or the DTX 4.10?

Hi Keema and welcome to Pinoydvd!

Got my 650 for a very good price. If you're somewhere here in Makati CBD, you may want to visit The Home Theater. Here the shop's number - 812-52-35/813-84-43 (look for Sonny Tuazon).

Is 650 good in audio? Definitely yes... that I'm not in a hurry to setup my Scott Tube Amp. :)

Incidentally, I use US Audio 512mkII sub and i'm happy with it. Can't comment on DTX though :)

Hope I was able to help you.

Cheers!!!
Compaq
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: keema on Mar 07, 2005 at 10:48 AM
sir compaq, what speakers are you using to your 650? does the 650 is good to match with speakers like wharfedale, diamond series?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Compaq on Mar 07, 2005 at 11:32 AM
Hi keema, my fronts are b&w 602, center is lcr60, rears are 600 and i'm temporarily using AudioFile (dai-ichi) speakers as my surround back. 650 is driving them well, 602's sensitivity is I think 89db. Nabawasan din ang brightness compared with 795a before. I don't think you will have a problem matching the 650 with Wharfeldale speakers, try to audition (matching) so you can hear it yourself :)

Cheers!!!
Compaq
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Mar 07, 2005 at 11:36 AM
arthurallanj,

Sir pwede na kayang pantapat yung x5 series ng yamaha sa hk sa audio?
 
 

I don't think so, I just said they're an improvement over the older models. But that's also a matter of taste, I personally like my audio to sound natural, so it would depend on you. The most noticeable difference would be the body that comes with the sound that was not there before with older Yamaha HT amps. As they say, "Audition! Auditon! Audition!"

The most valuable trait of HKs, and I think everybody would agree, is the clean power that come with their amps, and their conservative power ratings.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 07, 2005 at 02:00 PM
sir compaq, what speakers are you using to your 650? does the 650 is good to match with speakers like wharfedale, diamond series?

i'm inclined to believe that my 650 matches pretty well with my diamond 9.4 fronts  ;D

Title: Re: yamaha rx-v2500
Post by: eagumban on Mar 08, 2005 at 01:04 PM
If you are not particularly interested about GUI and can tolerate a small difference in power, you may consider the rx-v1500.  ;D
rx-v1500 is rated 5 star by What Hi-fi ;) Just a little info.
http://yamahaproofing.neuropia.com/av/Reviews/Product%20Reviews.jsp

I noticed that yamaha units OSD are also PAL, can anybody comment on this...   ???
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dyobbs on Mar 08, 2005 at 01:17 PM
Pinoy DVD Gurus,

       Need you expert opinion ulit  O0 I just got my 650 this week (sale sila ngayon, from 25K to 19+ na lang).  I was so excited and I hurried home to set it-up. I dumped my old akira receiver, take it out from the shelf and  put it in my new 650. That akira recever comes with 5 speakers (front, center, back, but no sub) when i bought it, oks na for beginners  ;D. Sounds good though, but it's running only 2 channels. It's been with me for 2 years long and I guess the long wait is enough, so i replaced it with my new 650, but of course I retained the akira speakers (ala pa budget for speakers). As I finished settiing it up, alas! I got 5 channels working.... pure 5-way.... ;) However, i find the sound not too good. No much bass and the sound seems to dull especially on audio CDs  :-\. I have to push the volume to +15 to +10 db just to get the good sound. I'm not sure if my 650 is having a hard time driving the speakers or that's just the nature of yamaha sound. How would I know if my amp is already in stress? How much volume is required to have a good sound? Yamaha ranges from +80db to -10db, i suppose. It's just that i noticed that you have to push more than half of the db range to get the sound, from +80 to +50 I can barely hear anything... or is it just my speakers... or need I to tweak up some amp settings? Have you encontered this issue  before?
 
Akira Speakers Specs:
Front: 89db sensitivity, 4ohms, 10-70 watts
Center: 88db, 6 ohms, 10-30 watts
Surround: 87db, 6 ohms, 10-30 watts


Need your analysis on this... Salamat ulit mga experts!






     
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 08, 2005 at 01:27 PM

Akira Speakers Specs:
Front: 89db sensitivity, 4ohms, 10-70 wattsCenter: 88db, 6 ohms, 10-30 watts
Surround: 87db, 6 ohms, 10-30 watts


im no guru, but the 4-ohm fronts may be too much for the 650.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gaol on Mar 08, 2005 at 02:12 PM
Pinoy DVD Gurus,

       
 
Akira Speakers Specs:
Front: 89db sensitivity, 4ohms, 10-70 watts
Center: 88db, 6 ohms, 10-30 watts
Surround: 87db, 6 ohms, 10-30 watts


Need your analysis on this... Salamat ulit mga experts!






     

Check the manual. Given your speakers are 6 ohms and below, I think you need to change a setting in a switch at the back. Default setting for this assumes all your speakers are rated for 8 ohms. Then again, as bumblebee mentioned, yamaha might not be able to handle 4 ohm speakers. Hope this helps.


Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dyobbs on Mar 08, 2005 at 02:43 PM
Bumblee, DVD addict

         Thanks for the quick response ;) Yamaha can handle as low as 4 ohms. I'd already swithched the impedance settings and match it up with my speakers. Normally, for a Yamaha receiver, how much volume you turn to have a good sound on your speakers? +30db or lower ?? How much db are you putting up before you reach the speaker's threshold. Thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: taggart on Mar 08, 2005 at 02:53 PM
dyobbs,

on mine, average levels would be -34db(rx-v750) with kef speakers rated at 89db/6ohms for audio listening.  for movies, i sometimes push it to -20db or even -15db if the recording is bad.  normal is around -24db.  try using straight mode...i find it gives out better bass than pure direct. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gaol on Mar 08, 2005 at 03:08 PM
Bumblee, DVD addict

         Thanks for the quick response ;) Yamaha can handle as low as 4 ohms. I'd already swithched the impedance settings and match it up with my speakers. Normally, for a Yamaha receiver, how much volume you turn to have a good sound on your speakers? +30db or lower ?? How much db are you putting up before you reach the speaker's threshold. Thanks!

On my 650,

for regular dvd viewing: -25 to -15 depending on the dvd (e.g.,  LOTR is loud even at just -25)
for tv viewing: -20 to -15

nightime viewing or when my child is already asleep, -40 to -30.

My room is around 25++ square meters, medyo maqingay din yung aircon ko.  my speakers--mission m70 series--range between 87-89db at 8ohms. :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Mar 08, 2005 at 03:24 PM
Bumblee, DVD addict

         Thanks for the quick response ;) Yamaha can handle as low as 4 ohms. I'd already swithched the impedance settings and match it up with my speakers. Normally, for a Yamaha receiver, how much volume you turn to have a good sound on your speakers? +30db or lower ?? How much db are you putting up before you reach the speaker's threshold. Thanks!


This can be a play of words.  Amps/receivers that can truly handle 4-ohm loads DO NOT have Impedance Selector Switches at the back.  An impedance selector switch is a current or voltage dividng network that will make any load look like 8-ohms to the amplifier driving them.  It is therefore a current-limiting circuit.   Hence, strictly speaking, such an amp CANNOT handle 4 ohm loads.  But because of this impedance switch, it CAN.   ;D 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Mar 08, 2005 at 04:33 PM
Bumblee, DVD addict

         Thanks for the quick response ;) Yamaha can handle as low as 4 ohms. I'd already swithched the impedance settings and match it up with my speakers. Normally, for a Yamaha receiver, how much volume you turn to have a good sound on your speakers? +30db or lower ?? How much db are you putting up before you reach the speaker's threshold. Thanks!

The 650 is built properly, with all protection in it. I used 4 0hm speakers and I dont switch anything at the back of my Yamaha. That switch is not to activate voltage and/or current dividing network just to let the amp see a 4 ohm load as 8ohm load.

Consider this: a 20Watt to 8 ohm do not deliver same current to the speaker as a 20Watt to 4ohms. 20W to 4 ohms will register higher current. So for Yamaha to be true to specs of (kunwari 90watts per channel), switching the switch to 4 ohms will correspondingly adjust the amps' current threshold to the speakers to still deliver the rated power for a 4-ohm speaker.

Had they implemented a type of voltage/current dividing network, the only power that can be delivered to your 4-ohm speaker is just half of the rated power. This will be a double whammy este yammy pala. At 7 channels, this AVR can only pump, at best 40-50w/ch at 8ohms. With the divide network, it will be down to 20-25w/ch in 7-channel mode.  ;D
Title: Re: yamaha rx-v2500
Post by: aHobbit on Mar 08, 2005 at 04:37 PM
Wow, THX  :o

If I only had the moolah okay to. In that alternative universe, I'll have THX-certified speakers, THX-certified cables, THX-certified coasters and throw pillows...

But yun nga, except for the THX and the higher wattage, most features are pretty much the same with the 650/750. This is the model pala that has a GUI for an OSD. I saw one model like this when I bought my 650. Bangis. Mouse na lang kulang  ;D



Nope! THX-certified listening room, THX-certified material, THX-certified player and THX-certified listener. Your money should be certified by THX to have reached them!  ;D
Title: Re: yamaha rx-v2500
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 08, 2005 at 04:51 PM
If you are not particularly interested about GUI and can tolerate a small difference in power, you may consider the rx-v1500.  ;D
rx-v1500 is rated 5 star by What Hi-fi ;) Just a little info.
http://yamahaproofing.neuropia.com/av/Reviews/Product%20Reviews.jsp

I noticed that yamaha units OSD are also PAL, can anybody comment on this...   ???

PAL as in the color system? The monitor to which my 650 is connected is NTSC only but it works just fine
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 09, 2005 at 09:02 AM
hey peeps,

dropped by spectra yesterday to check out some wharfedale diamond 9s. anyway, had a short chat with jose, and he said that the price drop on the yammies is for all dealers pala, kasi memo pala yun from yupangco yata. it just so happened na huli nila natangap yung memo so i bought my 650 from someone else.  ;D

this is good news for everyone out there who's still on the line on whether to get a receiver from the x5 series. bili na!  >:D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Mar 09, 2005 at 10:51 AM
hey peeps,

dropped by spectra yesterday to check out some wharfedale diamond 9s. anyway, had a short chat with jose, and he said that the price drop on the yammies is for all dealers pala, kasi memo pala yun from yupangco yata. it just so happened na huli nila natangap yung memo so i bought my 650 from someone else.  ;D

this is good news for everyone out there who's still on the line on whether to get a receiver from the x5 series. bili na!  >:D

For those salivating on Yamaha AVR, the trick is this. Always, every year, at this point of the year, Yamaha is about to release its new line of receivers. This triggers sale of their current line so to release and clear all inventories of unsold models. This is almost priced at dealers' price rather than SRP. For the 6xx series, it always end up as 19K+ during this time of year.

So learn to control your appetite and hold on to your money, and you will save a lot. It is good for Yamaha (clearing of inventory), it is good for the consumers (cheap AVRs). cheers.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Mar 09, 2005 at 11:47 AM
Pinoy DVD Gurus,

       Need you expert opinion ulit  O0 I just got my 650 this week (sale sila ngayon, from 25K to 19+ na lang).  I was so excited and I hurried home to set it-up. I dumped my old akira receiver, take it out from the shelf and  put it in my new 650. That akira recever comes with 5 speakers (front, center, back, but no sub) when i bought it, oks na for beginners  ;D. Sounds good though, but it's running only 2 channels. It's been with me for 2 years long and I guess the long wait is enough, so i replaced it with my new 650, but of course I retained the akira speakers (ala pa budget for speakers). As I finished settiing it up, alas! I got 5 channels working.... pure 5-way.... ;) However, i find the sound not too good. No much bass and the sound seems to dull especially on audio CDs  :-\. I have to push the volume to +15 to +10 db just to get the good sound. I'm not sure if my 650 is having a hard time driving the speakers or that's just the nature of yamaha sound. How would I know if my amp is already in stress? How much volume is required to have a good sound? Yamaha ranges from +80db to -10db, i suppose. It's just that i noticed that you have to push more than half of the db range to get the sound, from +80 to +50 I can barely hear anything... or is it just my speakers... or need I to tweak up some amp settings? Have you encontered this issue  before?
 
Akira Speakers Specs:
Front: 89db sensitivity, 4ohms, 10-70 watts
Center: 88db, 6 ohms, 10-30 watts
Surround: 87db, 6 ohms, 10-30 watts


Need your analysis on this... Salamat ulit mga experts!
     

At -30db, this isn't actually half of the amp's power, it's just about 1/4. The volume is not 1:1 proportional to the numbers displayed on the panel. It's just their reference. I normally listen at 30db~18db. Also, try adjusting the bass and treble on the amp, they're set at 0 as default. My 650 has good bass reproduction without a sub. Try tinkering with the settings, maybe that's just what you need.  ;D
Title: Re: yamaha rx-v2500
Post by: eagumban on Mar 09, 2005 at 12:46 PM
PAL as in the color system? The monitor to which my 650 is connected is NTSC only but it works just fine
I mean, when you want to display the OSD (on screen display), when your tv is ntsc, the signal coming from the receiver converts to PAL and everything that is displayed is scrolling. But when you switch if off, everything becomes normal.  When I ask the dealer, they said their units are PAL. Yung unit mo ba may OSD,  nag scroll din? ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Mar 09, 2005 at 02:02 PM
I have to push the volume to +15 to +10 db just to get the good sound.

perhaps you mean -15db to -10db  ???


I'm not sure if my 650 is having a hard time driving the speakers or that's just the nature of yamaha sound.

Probably both - it is now an interaction of the amp and speaker.


How would I know if my amp is already in stress?

If your ears is already itching! or your amp will automatically shout "aray" - I mean shut-off!  ;D


How much volume is required to have a good sound? Yamaha ranges from +80db to -10db, i suppose. Front: 89db sensitivity, 4ohms, 10-70 watts

depends on your speakers. For diamond of 86dB sensitivity, i have my yamaha at -40db to -30db. On my coral flat 10inch with 96dB sensitivity, my yamaha is between -70db to -50db.


It's just that i noticed that you have to push more than half of the db range to get the sound, from +80 to +50 I can barely hear anything...

With standard input signal to Yamaha, the following can be your guide to power setting based on db volume display:
 00 db - full power (100%) (say your AVR is rated at 100W, 0 db is 100W)
-03 db - half power (50%) - 50W
-06 db - 1/4 power (25%) - 25W
-10 db - 10%
-20 db - 1% - 1W
-30 db - 0.1%
-40 db - 0.01% - 0.01W   ;D
-50 db - 0.001% - 1 milliWatt  ;D   ;D   ;D


or is it just my speakers...
 
Akira Speakers Specs:
Front: 89db sensitivity, 4ohms, 10-70 watts
Center: 88db, 6 ohms, 10-30 watts
Surround: 87db, 6 ohms, 10-30 watts

Yup!  ::)  I highly doubt akira specs!  ;D
Yup also, they look good - nice piece of gear


or need I to tweak up some amp settings? Have you encontered this issue  before?
 

Try the tone controls - it  could output higher power at LF/HF spectrum. Or use DVD equalizers if your player has.
I encountered the same problem in my yamaha/wharf tandem.  :(
Just dont know which one I need to throw out the window!   :o  ;D
They both look handsome to deserve such cruel punishment!  8)

Title: Re: yamaha rx-v2500
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 09, 2005 at 03:55 PM
I mean, when you want to display the OSD (on screen display), when your tv is ntsc, the signal coming from the receiver converts to PAL and everything that is displayed is scrolling. But when you switch if off, everything becomes normal.  When I ask the dealer, they said their units are PAL. Yung unit mo ba may OSD,  nag scroll din? ;D

di naman siya nagso-scroll when i run the OSD to make adjustments, even, say, when the picture from the dvd i'm watching is still shown at superimposed lang yung OSD.

maybe there's a setting in your unit to select either color system
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 09, 2005 at 04:05 PM

With standard input signal to Yamaha, the following can be your guide to power setting based on db volume display:
 00 db - full power (100%) (say your AVR is rated at 100W, 0 db is 100W)
-03 db - half power (50%) - 50W
-06 db - 1/4 power (25%) - 25W
-10 db - 10%
-20 db - 1% - 1W
-30 db - 0.1%
-40 db - 0.01% - 0.01W   ;D
-50 db - 0.001% - 1 milliWatt  ;D   ;D   ;D


interesting stats sir aHobbit. since i do most listening at about -20 db, that means about 1W lang pala ang pahirap sa speakers ko. that's comforting to learn  :D

i suppose proportional lang din ang electrical consumption diba? ayos, pamahal na nang pamahal ang bilihin. pano na tayong mga HT lovers kung patawan pa ng karagdagang VAT ang kuryente?  :P

For those salivating on Yamaha AVR, the trick is this. Always, every year, at this point of the year, Yamaha is about to release its new line of receivers. This triggers sale of their current line so to release and clear all inventories of unsold models. This is almost priced at dealers' price rather than SRP. For the 6xx series, it always end up as 19K+ during this time of year.

So learn to control your appetite and hold on to your money, and you will save a lot. It is good for Yamaha (clearing of inventory), it is good for the consumers (cheap AVRs). cheers.

Amen!  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 09, 2005 at 04:14 PM
interesting stats sir aHobbit. since i do most listening at about -20 db, that means about 1W lang pala ang pahirap sa speakers ko. that's comforting to learn  :D

i suppose proportional lang din ang electrical consumption diba? ayos, pamahal na nang pamahal ang bilihin. pano na tayong mga HT lovers kung patawan pa ng karagdagang VAT ang kuryente?  :P

Amen!  ;D

w/ watts, it's always quality over quantity ;D and 86 db (1 watt, your wharf's sensitivity) is quite loud already. note that a normal conversation is about 60 db.

as for the VAT thing, it was rejected by the senate. thanks to the recto report :) GMA is not happy hehehe
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 09, 2005 at 04:30 PM
w/ watts, it's always quality over quantity ;D and 86 db (1 watt, your wharf's sensitivity) is quite loud already. note that a normal conversation is about 60 db.

as for the VAT thing, it was rejected by the senate. thanks to the recto report :) GMA is not happy hehehe

officially rejected na ba? actually i'm not giving too much attention sa news, although i'm a tax consultant for the firm who helped the good senator understand that increasing the VAT rate is not the way to go  8) enough about taxes (medyo OT na), purgado na ko dyan dito sa opisina  :-X

newbie question, how does the 86 db speaker sensitivity relate to the amps volume rating? kung -20 db yung volume ng receiver, tabos 86 db sensitivity ng speaker, am I listening at 66 db then?  ???
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Mar 09, 2005 at 06:10 PM
The 650 is actually a 9.1 receiver but only has a 7 channel amp, so you can only switch the power to either the front presence or the back surrounds. And yes, it has YPAO.  ;D

I am a sucker when I see the word SALE.. Oh well, just bought my Yammy 450 a few months ago and I cant help w/ the upgrade itch with this V650.

What are these presence speakers for anyway? I assume they use the same wattage and ohms right?

TIA  :D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Mar 09, 2005 at 06:18 PM
officially rejected na ba? actually i'm not giving too much attention sa news, although i'm a tax consultant for the firm who helped the good senator understand that increasing the VAT rate is not the way to go  8) enough about taxes (medyo OT na), purgado na ko dyan dito sa opisina  :-X

newbie question, how does the 86 db speaker sensitivity relate to the amps volume rating? kung -20 db yung volume ng receiver, tabos 86 db sensitivity ng speaker, am I listening at 66 db then?  ???

You can only relate the amp db volume to the speaker db thru the watt equivalence as the amp db volume setting is in reference to amp rated power (which is different for amps). and has nothing to do with your speaker's SPL

Say, a 100 watt AVR with a RATED input signal, will have 1 watt at -20db.
Your speaker sensitivity of 86db will have this 86db level at 1 watt - which is the -20db setting of the AVR.
And indeed, the 86db SPL is really loud.

For a Yamaha like the 630, the rated output is 75W. at -20db volume at RATED input, this is 0.75W only
Then you refer this back to your wharf (86db), so the wharf will have less 86db SPL (driven by 0.75W instead of 1W) - this might be between 84db to 85db SPL.

However, the above is simplistic presentation and as highlighted at the amp's RATED input signal. Your source player/material are recorded using different output signal. this will contribute to some computation error but you can have a close rather than exact estimate.

Lastly, some speakers with certain sensitivity behave differently, like that of a celestion we tested. That specie seems to be true 91db speaker only if you have minimum 35watts into it (which by this time, the speaker will be giving out 106db of ear piercing noise) - it has its different application.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 09, 2005 at 06:40 PM
officially rejected na ba? actually i'm not giving too much attention sa news, although i'm a tax consultant for the firm who helped the good senator understand that increasing the VAT rate is not the way to go  8) enough about taxes (medyo OT na), purgado na ko dyan dito sa opisina  :-X

newbie question, how does the 86 db speaker sensitivity relate to the amps volume rating? kung -20 db yung volume ng receiver, tabos 86 db sensitivity ng speaker, am I listening at 66 db then?  ???

try this:

db=10*log(power)
spl=db+sensitivity

the -20 db is actually 0 db from a 100-wpc amp. -3 db is 17 db and so on. if you're listening at -20 db in your 650, you are hearing 86 db :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 09, 2005 at 06:50 PM
I am a sucker when I see the word SALE.. Oh well, just bought my Yammy 450 a few months ago and I cant help w/ the upgrade itch with this V650.

What are these presence speakers for anyway? I assume they use the same wattage and ohms right?

TIA  :D

according to yamaha, the presence speakers are for sounds that the filmmakers intended to emanate from behind the screen. the way i understand it, if you have a character speaking in the film sa foreground, the sounds corresponding to the background of the shot should be channeled through the presence speakers.

proprietary yata ng yamaha ito, and only works in one of their dsp modes. also, the rear surrounds and the presence speakers are mutually exclusive. so it's not too relevant for me.

You can only relate the amp db volume to the speaker db thru the watt equivalence as the amp db volume setting is in reference to amp rated power (which is different for amps). and has nothing to do with your speaker's SPL

Say, a 100 watt AVR with a RATED input signal, will have 1 watt at -20db.
Your speaker sensitivity of 86db will have this 86db level at 1 watt - which is the -20db setting of the AVR.
And indeed, the 86db SPL is really loud.

For a Yamaha like the 630, the rated output is 75W. at -20db volume at RATED input, this is 0.75W only
Then you refer this back to your wharf (86db), so the wharf will have less 86db SPL (driven by 0.75W instead of 1W) - this might be between 84db to 85db SPL.

However, the above is simplistic presentation and as highlighted at the amp's RATED input signal. Your source player/material are recorded using different output signal. this will contribute to some computation error but you can have a close rather than exact estimate.

Lastly, some speakers with certain sensitivity behave differently, like that of a celestion we tested. That specie seems to be true 91db speaker only if you have minimum 35watts into it (which by this time, the speaker will be giving out 106db of ear piercing noise) - it has its different application.

try this:

db=10*log(power)
spl=db+sensitivity

the -20 db is actually 0 db from a 100-wpc amp. -3 db is about ~17 db. if you're listening at -20 db in your 650, you are hearing 86 db :)


di lang pala simpleng arithmetic to! may log pa (pano nga ba gumamit ng scientific calculator? :P)

btw, since napagusapan na rin ang spl, i'm just curious, magkano ba dito sa pinas ang spl meter? where can i get one?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 09, 2005 at 07:14 PM

di lang pala simpleng arithmetic to! may log pa (pano nga ba gumamit ng scientific calculator? :P)

btw, since napagusapan na rin ang spl, i'm just curious, magkano ba dito sa pinas ang spl meter? where can i get one?

you can always use excel ;D to give you an idea,

10 watts = 10 db
100 watts= 20 db
1000 watts = 30 db

if you really want it loud, forget about power. just get ultra sensitive speakers. if i remembered correctly, the klipsch rf-7 breached the 100 db mark :o you'll have to feed your wharfs 1000 watts to match the rf-7 at 10 watts ;D of course sunog na yung wharfs nun ;) but remember that higher sensitivity doesn't mean better sound quality.

i hope im correct w/ this ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 10, 2005 at 09:02 AM
you can always use excel ;D to give you an idea,

10 watts = 10 db
100 watts= 20 db
1000 watts = 30 db

if you really want it loud, forget about power. just get ultra sensitive speakers. if i remembered correctly, the klipsch rf-7 breached the 100 db mark :o you'll have to feed your wharfs 1000 watts to match the rf-7 at 10 watts ;D of course sunog na yung wharfs nun ;) but remember that higher sensitivity doesn't mean better sound quality.

i hope im correct w/ this ;D ;D ;D

way over my budget na ang klipsch. ni hindi ko nga ma-pronounce   ;D

tried the formula on excel. since the 650 is rated at 95 pc, i'm listening at exactly 85.7772360529 db whenever i set the dial at -20 db ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Mar 10, 2005 at 10:21 AM
try this:

db=10*log(power)
spl=db+sensitivity

the -20 db is actually 0 db from a 100-wpc amp. -3 db is 17 db and so on. if you're listening at -20 db in your 650, you are hearing 86 db :)


Let's sort this out for clarity!

For a 100-watt amp, the -20dB amp volume is the 0dB to your speaker.
If you increase the amp volume, say +3dB, your amp volume display will be -17dB.
Likewise, your speaker will have additional +3db as well, say for a wharf of 86dB sensitivity, this will have an SPL of 86dB+3dB=89dB.

In the same way, if your amp volume level is set to -30dB (or 10dB down the -20dB reference level for a 100watt amp)
- then your speaker SPL is 86dB-10dB=76dB.

again, this is a close approximation rather than exact due to some other electreical parameters of your amp.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Mar 10, 2005 at 10:31 AM
you can always use excel ;D to give you an idea,

10 watts = 10 db
100 watts= 20 db
1000 watts = 30 db

if you really want it loud, forget about power. just get ultra sensitive speakers. if i remembered correctly, the klipsch rf-7 breached the 100 db mark :o you'll have to feed your wharfs 1000 watts to match the rf-7 at 10 watts ;D of course sunog na yung wharfs nun ;) but remember that higher sensitivity doesn't mean better sound quality.

i hope im correct w/ this ;D ;D ;D

Sometimes, we really have to inject economics into our spending.

If I have a 100dB sensitive speaker, then at most, I only need 1 watt power amp (the tubers).

If I have 86dbSensitive speaker and want same loudness of the system above, I need amp to propel my speaker to sound at 100dB (additional +14dB). The amp that will give me a +15dB to my 86dB speaker is a 32-Watt amp, and it will surpass the klipsch by 1dB. (86+15=101).

Now, do the economics:
how much is a 1 watt amp (perhaps the T-amp  ;D) and how much is the klipsch 100dB speaker?
how much is a 32-watt amp and a wharf speaker?

Got the idea how to budget your gears, and look for the reasonably-priced items.

Further, you can also see why a 100-watt amp does not really matter (so it is quality of amp over quantity) especially if you have speaker above the 85dB sensitivity level? You will need a 100watter amp if your speaker has a stinking sensitivity! but note also that a 32Watt amp will add a 15dB to the speaker SPL while a 128Watt amp will only give you additional 6dB only on top of the 15dB of the 32-watter.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: garee on Mar 10, 2005 at 10:38 AM
I am a sucker when I see the word SALE.. Oh well, just bought my Yammy 450 a few months ago and I cant help w/ the upgrade itch with this V650.

What are these presence speakers for anyway? I assume they use the same wattage and ohms right?

TIA  :D

does this mean, we'll be seeing you yammy on the buy and sell section anytime soon.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 10, 2005 at 10:41 AM
Sometimes, we really have to inject economics into our spending.

If I have a 100dB sensitive speaker, then at most, I only need 1 watt power amp (the tubers).

If I have 86dbSensitive speaker and want same loudness of the system above, I need amp to propel my speaker to sound at 100dB (additional +14dB). The amp that will give me a +15dB to my 86dB speaker is a 32-Watt amp, and it will surpass the klipsch by 1dB. (86+15=101).

Now, do the economics:
how much is a 1 watt amp (perhaps the T-amp  ;D) and how much is the klipsch 100dB speaker?
how much is a 32-watt amp and a wharf speaker?

Got the idea how to budget your gears, and look for the reasonably-priced items.

Further, you can also see why a 100-watt amp does not really matter (so it is quality of amp over quantity) especially if you have speaker above the 85dB sensitivity level? You will need a 100watter amp if your speaker has a stinking sensitivity! but note also that a 32Watt amp will add a 15dB to the speaker SPL while a 128Watt amp will only give you additional 6dB only on top of the 15dB of the 32-watter.

i agree on all points sir aHobbit :) i mentioned the klipsch just for comparison ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gaol on Mar 10, 2005 at 10:46 AM
Let's sort this out for clarity!

For a 100-watt amp, the -20dB amp volume is the 0dB to your speaker.
If you increase the amp volume, say +3dB, your amp volume display will be -17dB.
Likewise, your speaker will have additional +3db as well, say for a wharf of 86dB sensitivity, this will have an SPL of 86dB+3dB=89dB.

In the same way, if your amp volume level is set to -30dB (or 10dB down the -20dB reference level for a 100watt amp)
- then your speaker SPL is 86dB-10dB=76dB.

again, this is a close approximation rather than exact due to some other electreical parameters of your amp.

Interesting discussion.  :)

In the case of the yamaha rxv-650 (or other yammies for that matter) which are optimistically rated, what power rating is applicable: the rated 95watts or the tested (by some reviews) 50watts?

Assuming it's the rated power, at -20 setting, you get an approximate SPL of 89db for an 89dB speaker, right? 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 10, 2005 at 10:53 AM
Quote
Interesting discussion.  :)

In the case of the yamaha rxv-650 (or other yammies for that matter) which are optimistically rated, what power rating is applicable: the rated 95watts or the tested (by some reviews) 50watts?

10 watts can give you 10db+sensitivity. that is uncomfortably loud if you're using wharfs. what more if 50 watts? ;D

Quote
Assuming it's the rated power, at -20 setting, you get an approximate SPL of 89db for an 89dB speaker, right? 

if the amp is 100 wpc, then yes.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Mar 10, 2005 at 11:03 AM
does this mean, we'll be seeing you yammy on the buy and sell section anytime soon.

Bro Garee! Musta na!  :D.

Sold na ang 450

Question guys, I have 2 spare 4 ohm speakers that I just found in my mom's bodega. I plan to use them for back surrounds since I dont have the budget to buy more speakers. I am using 8 ohms Mission speakers for my HT.

 Arthurallanj told me in another thread that using these 4 ohms would make the AVR heat up faster. But since I will use it for surround effects which only sound off once in awhile (and usually sa DTS-ES mode lang), does this mean its safe to use these for back surrounds? What if I place a fan on top of the 650? Bro Art, I forgot to ask you this question..


TIA  :D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: turismo1997 on Mar 10, 2005 at 12:53 PM
hello mga bro,

in terms of mga speaker set up, medyo greenhorn pa ako.

I bought my first a/v receiver kenwood krf-v5550d way back 2002. Now I'm planning to upgrade this to a 7.1 setup.

I'm considering the following receivers:

Onkyo TX-SR702
Yamaha RX-V1400 or RX-V1500
Marantz SR7500

Current speaker ko si Bose Accoustimass series III na 5.1 (medyo nagkamili ako ng bili sa spkr na to:'( ), pero balak ko rin palitan to (wharfdale siguro pag me pera na ;D).

Any advice po kung anong A/R receiver ang magandang pag-umpisahan ulit ng setup.


Thanks po in advance....

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Mar 10, 2005 at 12:56 PM
Bro Garee! Musta na!  :D.

I am setting up 2 HTs for a good friend, Gonna sell it to her na...

Question guys, I have 2 spare 4 ohm speakers that I just found in my mom's bodega. I plan to use them for back surrounds since I dont have the budget to buy more speakers. I am using 8 ohms Mission speakers for my HT.

 Arthurallanj told me in another thread that using these 4 ohms would make the AVR heat up faster. But since I will use it for surround effects which only sound off once in awhile (and usually sa DTS-ES mode lang), does this mean its safe to use these for back surrounds? What if I place a fan on top of the 650? Bro Art, I forgot to ask you this question..


TIA  :D

Pwede rin, but do get an impedance matching speakers soon. Your 650 will operate at a higher than normal temperature.  ;)
Title: Re: yamaha rx-v2500
Post by: turismo1997 on Mar 10, 2005 at 01:08 PM
masyado ba malaki ang kinaibahan nito sa RXV-1500?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dyobbs on Mar 10, 2005 at 03:02 PM
Thanks guys!
For all your inputs concerning my Yamaha/Akira Tandem, I'll try to make some adjustments on Bass/Treble controls... if not, worse scenario is throw out the speakers  ;D.  I guess now i got a good feel on how my Yummy works on decibel levels  ;D. Gosh!... i just love this forum....  ;D Keep you posted kung oks o hindi

Salamat ulit  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Mar 10, 2005 at 03:22 PM
Interesting discussion.  :)

In the case of the yamaha rxv-650 (or other yammies for that matter) which are optimistically rated, what power rating is applicable: the rated 95watts or the tested (by some reviews) 50watts?

Assuming it's the rated power, at -20 setting, you get an approximate SPL of 89db for an 89dB speaker, right? 


Sir, sa stereo (2ch), Yamaha will pump the 95watts.

Sa all-channel ON, it will only deliver 40-50watts lang.

The volume display (xx dB), it is still referred to the 95W power. Only, your amp will shut off even if you dont attain full power (0dB) or nearby the rating. It could be because the amp is beyond its capacity na, or because your amp is too hot na. Probably, in 2-ch, you can have a volume dB level closer to 0dB than when you have all-channels driven at the same time.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Mar 10, 2005 at 03:29 PM
Bro Garee! Musta na!  :D.

I am setting up 2 HTs for a good friend, Gonna sell it to her na...

Question guys, I have 2 spare 4 ohm speakers that I just found in my mom's bodega. I plan to use them for back surrounds since I dont have the budget to buy more speakers. I am using 8 ohms Mission speakers for my HT.

 Arthurallanj told me in another thread that using these 4 ohms would make the AVR heat up faster. But since I will use it for surround effects which only sound off once in awhile (and usually sa DTS-ES mode lang), does this mean its safe to use these for back surrounds? What if I place a fan on top of the 650? Bro Art, I forgot to ask you this question..


TIA  :D

You have 2 options:

(1) retain impedance switch at back of AVR. But you need to recalibrate your surround as 4-ohm will sound louder (well, depends on its sensitivity) than an equivalent 8 ohm speaker. At typical listening level, this is not much of an issue. If you overdrive your amp, then your amp will easily heat up because of the 4-ohm load - but 650 is well protected anyway. At least you will discover at what point your receiver will shout ARAY!

(2) switch your impedance at the back- FRONT: 6ohm SURROUNDS: 4ohms - even if your mission (and also due to its rather high sensitivity), is 8 ohm, this will be fine. again, recalibrate your surround sound levels.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: turismo1997 on Mar 11, 2005 at 03:02 PM
meron po kayong alam na store na meron ng stock ng rx-v1500?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Mar 11, 2005 at 04:22 PM
Pwede rin, but do get an impedance matching speakers soon. Your 650 will operate at a higher than normal temperature.  ;)

You have 2 options:

(1) retain impedance switch at back of AVR. But you need to recalibrate your surround as 4-ohm will sound louder (well, depends on its sensitivity) than an equivalent 8 ohm speaker. At typical listening level, this is not much of an issue. If you overdrive your amp, then your amp will easily heat up because of the 4-ohm load - but 650 is well protected anyway. At least you will discover at what point your receiver will shout ARAY!

(2) switch your impedance at the back- FRONT: 6ohm SURROUNDS: 4ohms - even if your mission (and also due to its rather high sensitivity), is 8 ohm, this will be fine. again, recalibrate your surround sound levels.

Thanks for the info bros  :D ! I am still saving up for a pair of Mission floorstanders. When I get them I will just use my M72s for rear or presence speakers.

Eto na, I bought the V650 na from Listening Shangrila awhile ago, I didnt know it only came in gold color. I like the silver pa naman sana. Oh well, a sale is a sale...

I liked their service, we bought a TV from them last year and they willingly gave me a new box kanina so we could move the TV tomorrow (Moving to a new place tomorrow). Yan, na-touch tuloy ako, so sa kanila na ako bumili ng V650... ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Mar 11, 2005 at 04:34 PM
meron po kayong alam na store na meron ng stock ng rx-v1500?

Listening in Style Shangrila had one awhile ago.

They said the 1500 and the 2500 series sound better than the vx50 series. they use different parts or whatever..

They auditioned the 2500 to me awhile ago, the movie sounded great!!!

But then again,they were using Dynaudio audience 72 and a  12 incher Velodyne, I am sure those also had a LOT to do with the awesome sound. The 3 (2500, velo, a72) were worth around 150k already...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: keema on Mar 11, 2005 at 11:38 PM
old models na ba yung 1500 and 2500? tapos mas bagong model ba ang vx50? does the former really sound better than the vx50?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Mar 14, 2005 at 10:05 AM
old models na ba yung 1500 and 2500? tapos mas bagong model ba ang vx50? does the former really sound better than the vx50?

Older models are 1400, 2400. Kasabay to ng x40 series. 

New models ang 1500 & 2500.

Heirarchy ng Yamaha from entry level:

RXV-350(5.1), 450(6.1), 550(6.1),650(7.1),750(7.1), -Php 13k to 28k

Then RXV1500(7.1), 2500(7.1)- THX AVRs, Php 35k & above

then Z9 ( 9.1 AVR) - flagship AVR Php 200+k
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: turismo1997 on Mar 14, 2005 at 05:10 PM
thanks bro,

actually kanina nandoon ako sa Shangri-la at nakapagtanong ako sa isang store sa 4th flr. ok naman yung price para sakin..kaya yan tuloy baka tingnan ko na rin yung rx-v 2500..


Listening in Style Shangrila had one awhile ago.

They said the 1500 and the 2500 series sound better than the vx50 series. they use different parts or whatever..

They auditioned the 2500 to me awhile ago, the movie sounded great!!!

But then again,they were using Dynaudio audience 72 and a  12 incher Velodyne, I am sure those also had a LOT to do with the awesome sound. The 3 (2500, velo, a72) were worth around 150k already...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: turismo1997 on Mar 14, 2005 at 05:15 PM
sana tumama ako sa lotto para me pambili ako ng rxv-1500  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: keema on Mar 15, 2005 at 07:47 AM
meron pa bang listening in style na store s shang ri la ngayon? anong floor sya?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Chito C. on Mar 15, 2005 at 09:59 AM
5th floor
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: keema on Mar 15, 2005 at 07:09 PM
mga sirs, tanong ko lang...magkasing presyo lang ba yung HK 330 at yung rxv 1500?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: taggart on Mar 16, 2005 at 01:18 AM
mga sirs, tanong ko lang...magkasing presyo lang ba yung HK 330 at yung rxv 1500?

sa huling pagkakaalam ko, HK330 is around P30k(6mos/0%in) while the RX-V1500 is around P36k+.  that was 2 months ago so pa-correct na lang po kung nagbago na.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 18, 2005 at 10:39 AM
Question on RX-V650: The receiver has a 6-channel preamp driven by a 7-channel amp. This leads to dual rear surrounds churning out exactly the same output. Wouldn't I be better off just connecting my two rear surrounds in series to increase impedance (and save on a few meters of speaker wire ;D) and thereby lightening the load on the receiver, since both speakers should play the same sound anyway?  Is there any trade off from doing this?  ???
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Mar 18, 2005 at 12:18 PM
Question on RX-V650: The receiver has a 6-channel preamp driven by a 7-channel amp. This leads to dual rear surrounds churning out exactly the same output. Wouldn't I be better off just connecting my two rear surrounds in series to increase impedance (and save on a few meters of speaker wire ;D) and thereby lightening the load on the receiver, since both speakers should play the same sound anyway?  Is there any trade off from doing this?  ???

I just finished setting up my 650 fully yesterday, and that question is also in my mind, I put my 2 spare speakers (4 ohms each) in series cuz I ran out of speaker wires.

I always had the impression that 7.1 systems would use the surrounds as side speakers just like our  movie theaters. Then the 2 back surrounds would do the job of the old 5.1 rear speakers. Meaning the 2 would give out sounds separately, left and right and not both giving out the same sound. Am I correct about  this? Because if it churns out the same sound from both back speakers then whats the use of 7.1, better pa ang 6.1 if thats the case.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 18, 2005 at 12:56 PM
I just finished setting up my 650 fully yesterday, and that question is also in my mind, I put my 2 spare speakers (4 ohms each) in series cuz I ran out of speaker wires.

I always had the impression that 7.1 systems would use the surrounds as side speakers just like our  movie theaters. Then the 2 back surrounds would do the job of the old 5.1 rear speakers. Meaning the 2 would give out sounds separately, left and right and not both giving out the same sound. Am I correct about  this? Because if it churns out the same sound from both back speakers then whats the use of 7.1, better pa ang 6.1 if thats the case.

truth is ala pa talaga discrete na 7.1 :( and dts es discrete 6.1 titles are rare. you can acieve 7.1 via pl2 and pls2x and other proprietary decoding algos.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 18, 2005 at 01:05 PM
truth is ala pa talaga discrete na 7.1 :( and dts es discrete 6.1 titles are rare. you can acieve 7.1 via pl2 and pls2x and other proprietary decoding algos.

7 channel ba and dplIIx?!  :o kala ko 6 channel din lang. in that case, bibili na lang ako speaker wire  O0
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gaol on Mar 18, 2005 at 01:23 PM
7 channel ba and dplIIx?!  :o kala ko 6 channel din lang. in that case, bibili na lang ako speaker wire  O0

Yes. That's what DPL2x seems to be all about (as seen in the following excerpt from hometheaterhifi.com), that is, how to make the most out of your 7.1 speaker setup:

Quote
Dolby Pro Logic IIx.  There are actually two parts to Pro Logic IIx. The first is its role as a classic Matrix decoder.  It distinguishes itself by delivering up to seven channels (as compared to Pro Logic II's five, or Pro Logic's four).  Like Pro Logic II, it includes Music and Movie modes. Note that both the side channels and rear channels are stereo.

Pro Logic IIx also plays a role with Discrete 5.1 material by deriving four surround channels, as oppose to EX's three, yielding up to seven main channels (LF, C, RF, RS, RR, LR, LR).  It includes Music and Movie modes. Although, like THX Ultra2, it is designed to accommodate non-EX encoded material, Dolby recommends the Movie mode for all movie material, including EX encoded soundtracks.

I plan to try out watching 5.1 and even 6.1 encoded DVDs in DPL2x as recommended and as preferred by some people in other forums and see if it's better.

On a related note, I tested both Star Wars Ep 1 and 2, which are known for being among the first DD-EX 6.1 DVDs. To my surprise, according to the display on the 650, the signals it receives are only 5.1 -- the rear center channel does not light up. (Unlike in the DD-EX LOTR-ROTK, the rear center channel signal indicator also lights up.) Anyone else experience this?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 18, 2005 at 01:30 PM
Yes. That's what DPL2x seems to be all about (as seen in the following excerpt from hometheaterhifi.com), that is, how to make the most out of your 7.1 speaker setup:

I plan to try out watching 5.1 and even 6.1 encoded DVDs in DPL2x as recommended and as preferred by some people in other forums and see if it's better.

On a related note, I tested both Star Wars Ep 1 and 2, which are known for being among the first DD-EX 6.1 DVDs. To my surprise, according to the display on the 650, the signals it receives are only 5.1 -- the rear center channel does not light up. Anyone else experience this?


i came across a review regarding those titles. nde nga narecognize as dd ex. you have to manually set dd-ex. ewan ko kung bakit :-\
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gaol on Mar 18, 2005 at 01:33 PM
i came across a review regarding those titles. nde nga narecognize as dd ex. you have to manually set dd-ex. ewan ko kung bakit :-\

Thanks bumblebee. Akala ko tuloy may diperensiya yung DVDs ko or worse yung 650. Baka nga wala yung "flag" that tells the receiver/processor it's DD-EX.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 18, 2005 at 02:43 PM
Yes. That's what DPL2x seems to be all about (as seen in the following excerpt from hometheaterhifi.com), that is, how to make the most out of your 7.1 speaker setup:

I plan to try out watching 5.1 and even 6.1 encoded DVDs in DPL2x as recommended and as preferred by some people in other forums and see if it's better.

On a related note, I tested both Star Wars Ep 1 and 2, which are known for being among the first DD-EX 6.1 DVDs. To my surprise, according to the display on the 650, the signals it receives are only 5.1 -- the rear center channel does not light up. (Unlike in the DD-EX LOTR-ROTK, the rear center channel signal indicator also lights up.) Anyone else experience this?


i'm guessing that for ep 1, baka dahil wala pa standards back then about the "flag", since this was the first ever dd-ex title, right? but then this guess doesn't make sense for the more recent ep 2. hmm...  :-\

masubukan nga yang 7 channel discrete movie decoding ng dpl2x. masayang testing days na naman ito pagdating ng holy week! (sana maganda pang-test and "the passion of the christ"  ;D)

on a side note, i just wanna share na since na-discover ko tong pinoydvd, di na ako maka-trabaho dito sa opisina. yahoo!  >:D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Mar 18, 2005 at 03:37 PM
On a related note, I tested both Star Wars Ep 1 and 2, which are known for being among the first DD-EX 6.1 DVDs. To my surprise, according to the display on the 650, the signals it receives are only 5.1 -- the rear center channel does not light up. (Unlike in the DD-EX LOTR-ROTK, the rear center channel signal indicator also lights up.) Anyone else experience this?

I also  posted this question long time back but no reply.  It is also not showing on my yamaha 440 and marantz 4400 but looks like it was ok for those 6.1 amp w/ THX certifications. 

Im waiting for someone who can  confirm on this.



Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on Mar 18, 2005 at 03:55 PM
This is because the Star Wars are are not in discrete DD-EX format, you need to manually select DD-EX in your receiver.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Mar 18, 2005 at 04:07 PM
This is because the Star Wars are are not in discrete DD-EX format, you need to manually select DD-EX in your receiver.

Episodes 4-6 are ok.  It was being detected properly.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on Mar 18, 2005 at 04:40 PM
Episodes 4-6 are ok.  It was being detected properly.


Yes I mean Episode 1 & 2
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: turismo1997 on Mar 18, 2005 at 08:57 PM
hello. newbie here,


meron kasi akong balak bumili ng either yamaha rx-v1500 or marantz sr7500, magkakaproblema ba kung for the meantime eh ikabit ko muna sa bose accoustimass 10 series III ko? thanks...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: berniebau on Mar 20, 2005 at 12:36 AM
Thanks guys!
For all your inputs concerning my Yamaha/Akira Tandem, I'll try to make some adjustments on Bass/Treble controls... if not, worse scenario is throw out the speakers  ;D.  I guess now i got a good feel on how my Yummy works on decibel levels  ;D. Gosh!... i just love this forum....  ;D Keep you posted kung oks o hindi

Salamat ulit  ;D

hoy Dyobbs! nakabili ka na pala! testingin natin yan dito sa amin! umalis lang si .. nakabili na kagad ah! ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 21, 2005 at 09:11 AM
hello. newbie here,


meron kasi akong balak bumili ng either yamaha rx-v1500 or marantz sr7500, magkakaproblema ba kung for the meantime eh ikabit ko muna sa bose accoustimass 10 series III ko? thanks...

why not get a non-thx yamaha and some wharfs? i think that'll be better than the bose setup ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Mar 21, 2005 at 10:20 AM
hello. newbie here,

meron kasi akong balak bumili ng either yamaha rx-v1500 or marantz sr7500, magkakaproblema ba kung for the meantime eh ikabit ko muna sa bose accoustimass 10 series III ko? thanks...

I think Marantz can compliment your BOSE speakers better.  Just check out  the speakers "ohms"  and make sure it supported by the AMP.

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: turismo1997 on Mar 21, 2005 at 10:41 AM
why not get a non-thx yamaha and some wharfs? i think that'll be better than the bose setup ;)

thanks bumblebee,

actually balak ko din palitan yung bose setup ng wharfdale, once me funds na ulit :)..

btw, match din ba yung marantz sa wharf? thanks..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 21, 2005 at 10:57 AM
thanks bumblebee,

actually balak ko din palitan yung bose setup ng wharfdale, once me funds na ulit :)..

btw, match din ba yung marantz sa wharf? thanks..

the marantzes are said to be on the warm side. so are the wharfs. the combo may be too warm. but that depends on your preferences. you may find "too warm" good ;)

i'd still dump the bose ;D even if it's driven by the 1400. even for just a while ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Mar 21, 2005 at 11:04 AM
Accdg to reviews, Wharfs are best  paired w/ Yammys.   The only speakers I know which are ok for either Marantz or Yammys are Mission and KEF.

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Mar 21, 2005 at 11:31 AM
I just finished setting up my 650 fully yesterday, and that question is also in my mind, I put my 2 spare speakers (4 ohms each) in series cuz I ran out of speaker wires.

I always had the impression that 7.1 systems would use the surrounds as side speakers just like our  movie theaters. Then the 2 back surrounds would do the job of the old 5.1 rear speakers. Meaning the 2 would give out sounds separately, left and right and not both giving out the same sound. Am I correct about  this? Because if it churns out the same sound from both back speakers then whats the use of 7.1, better pa ang 6.1 if thats the case.

I dont know if Yamaha thought it this way as I read the writeups on the 7.1 implem. Based on the design, music material is best implemented surround-wise using 2 rear speakers mounted behind the listeners toward the listening spot. The movies is best implemented using surround speakers mounted on the sides of the listeners. this makes some amps implem a 7-speaker output to suit both implem guidelines.

Just sharing what I have read from Harman Kardon Music - Science in the service of art.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Mar 21, 2005 at 12:39 PM
The 650 is a discrete 7.1 channel amp. But it would mainly depend on the source. That's why the 650 is future proof since I haven't heard of any dvd movie title available that has a 7.1 channel soundtrack, at least not yet. To date, dvd titles only come in 6 channels, and you could enjoy it with the 650, you can turn on the EX/ES mode via remote, available in matrix or discrete mode, or it can be set to auto, or you can use the matrix processing of the receiver if the source is just 5.1.

So, it's best to use two speakers for both back surround channels. Besides, when playing music, there's the 7-channel stereo mode, and when listening to a 5.1 dvd, or a DD-EX dvd, the surround back left is a matrix extension of the left surround and the surround back right is the matrix extension of the right surround. So the two speakers don't always churn out the same sound information. It is only at DTS-ES Discrete 6.1 mode that both back surround speakers have the same sound info.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 22, 2005 at 11:47 AM
from audioholics.com

Yamaha Releases 8 New XM-Ready Receivers
Posted Monday, March 21 2005, by clint

Yamaha Electronics Corporation today introduced four new affordable A/V digital home theater receivers equipped with XM Satellite Radio capability (XM-Ready) that will enhance and diversify the overall home entertainment experience at a variety of reasonable price points, beginning as low as $349.95 MRSP. 
 
Yamaha will be first to market with its new line of XM-Ready A/V receivers. The RX-V757, RX-V657, RX-V557 and RX-V457 will allows users to plug an XM Connect-and-Play home antenna into the Yamaha XM-Ready A/V receiver and activate the XM service to receive 150-plus digital radio channels. No additional accessories or installation are required. Using XM’s industry-leading chipset technology, as well as a new proprietary chip and signaling protocol, the XM Connect-and-Play home antenna is capable of receiving XM’s satellite and terrestrial signals as well as channel tuning, decoding and audio transmission. It will be the only accessory needed to get XM through an XM-Ready Yamaha component.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: d00dZ on Mar 22, 2005 at 12:59 PM
from audioholics.com

Yamaha Releases 8 New XM-Ready Receivers
Posted Monday, March 21 2005, by clint

Yamaha Electronics Corporation today introduced four new affordable A/V digital home theater receivers equipped with XM Satellite Radio capability (XM-Ready) that will enhance and diversify the overall home entertainment experience at a variety of reasonable price points, beginning as low as $349.95 MRSP. 
 
Yamaha will be first to market with its new line of XM-Ready A/V receivers. The RX-V757, RX-V657, RX-V557 and RX-V457 will allows users to plug an XM Connect-and-Play home antenna into the Yamaha XM-Ready A/V receiver and activate the XM service to receive 150-plus digital radio channels. No additional accessories or installation are required. Using XM’s industry-leading chipset technology, as well as a new proprietary chip and signaling protocol, the XM Connect-and-Play home antenna is capable of receiving XM’s satellite and terrestrial signals as well as channel tuning, decoding and audio transmission. It will be the only accessory needed to get XM through an XM-Ready Yamaha component.


whew!  ;D ;D ;D akala ko naman kung anong must-have upgrade na idadagdag ng Yamaha for their next line after the x50 series. E kung XM radio lang pala lamang ng x57, I don't think I'm any worse off by getting my 650 just recently. What a great call on my part! I pat myself in the back!  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 22, 2005 at 01:12 PM
whew!  ;D ;D ;D akala ko naman kung anong must-have upgrade na idadagdag ng Yamaha for their next line after the x50 series. E kung XM radio lang pala lamang ng x57, I don't think I'm any worse off by getting my 650 just recently. What a great call on my part! I pat myself in the back!  ;D

the lesson is to always to wait for the newer models and get the current models discounted :) im sure there'll be a lot going for the 657 next year :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gaol on Mar 22, 2005 at 01:39 PM
Aside from XM radio, it looks like the only new feature on the 657 that's not on the 650 is component video upconversion (if I really needed it, I would have gotten the 750). Goody-goody! I agree with doodz, my 2-month old 650 isn't feeling suddenly obsolescent.  ;D

P.S. Maybe that's why Yamaha didn't name the new series x60 (following the pattern x30, x40, x50) but only x57--the changes are not that significant to merit being called x60.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Mar 22, 2005 at 01:57 PM
whew!  ;D ;D ;D akala ko naman kung anong must-have upgrade na idadagdag ng Yamaha for their next line after the x50 series. E kung XM radio lang pala lamang ng x57, I don't think I'm any worse off by getting my 650 just recently. What a great call on my part! I pat myself in the back!  ;D

I just read this article minutes ago and I had the same reaction...WHEW!

I also pat myself in the back... ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Compaq on Mar 22, 2005 at 03:22 PM
I just read this article minutes ago and I had the same reaction...WHEW!

I also pat myself in the back... ;D

Me too... WHEW!!! Bravo! Bravo! Money well spent for us guys. Am a 650-owner too (at sale price too  ;D)

Cheers!!!
Compaq
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gaol on Mar 22, 2005 at 03:32 PM
Kaya yung mga may balak mag-yamaha diyan, e bili na at the sale prices! Once the new models are out (at wala nang x50 units), it's back to the regular prices (if I'm not mistaken, yung 650  nung unang labas, mga P30K?).  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: d00dZ on Apr 06, 2005 at 02:11 PM
Mukang nawili na sa pakikinig/panunuod ang mga Yammaha boys ha, nanahimik na lang bigla  >:D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: KEN on Apr 06, 2005 at 07:53 PM
Any feedback on where and how much the following Yammies...

RXV1500(Gold)
RXV750(Gold)

TIA
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Bartman on Apr 06, 2005 at 11:18 PM
Me too... WHEW!!! Bravo! Bravo! Money well spent for us guys. Am a 650-owner too (at sale price too  ;D)

Cheers!!!
Compaq

How much na ang 650 at sale prices? which shop?  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dyobbs on Apr 07, 2005 at 12:35 AM
Bartman,

           650 nowadays could go as low as 20K...  O0 You could try at spectra at Parksquare1 or Home theater at Tordesillas st in makati. Lokk for Sonny Tuazon. Hurry before supplies last...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: turismo1997 on Apr 07, 2005 at 10:20 AM
try mo sa shagri-la. doon ko nabili yung rx-v1500 ko (nalimutan ko lang yung name ng shop sound & vission, yung isa i think listening room ang pangalan)..kuha ko around 36k sa sound & vision...pareho ng price yung 2 shop na nakita ko doon.. I think nasa 4th floor sila..

Any feedback on where and how much the following Yammies...

RXV1500(Gold)
RXV750(Gold)

TIA
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Apr 07, 2005 at 10:30 AM
2 years na Yammy ko and it still rockin'
i'll be moving into a new house this month or next and build a room for the HT
cant wait to hear my yammy on close isolated room.

will post pics and review
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: KEN on Apr 07, 2005 at 03:30 PM
salamat turismo1997... hope baba pa price by June, dito kasi ako ME medyo mataas dito price ng audio/video gear  it cost almost 60K php dala ko nalang dito pagbalik.

thanks

try mo sa shagri-la. doon ko nabili yung rx-v1500 ko (nalimutan ko lang yung name ng shop sound & vission, yung isa i think listening room ang pangalan)..kuha ko around 36k sa sound & vision...pareho ng price yung 2 shop na nakita ko doon.. I think nasa 4th floor sila..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: keema on Apr 07, 2005 at 09:11 PM
sir...wattage lang ba pinagkaiba ng rx650 sa rx750?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: d00dZ on Apr 08, 2005 at 10:12 AM
5 watts, component video up conversion, and phono input  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Compaq on Apr 08, 2005 at 10:26 AM
How much na ang 650 at sale prices? which shop?  :)

Bartman,
           650 nowadays could go as low as 20K...  O0 You could try at spectra at Parksquare1 or Home theater at Tordesillas st in makati. Lokk for Sonny Tuazon. Hurry before supplies last...

Lower than 20k actually  ;D Try giving Sonny (The Home Theater) a call 812-52-35, 81384-43.

Cheers!!!
Compaq
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Apr 08, 2005 at 12:05 PM
5 watts, component video up conversion, and phono input  ;)

Don't forget, the 750 also comes with a learning remote.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: KEN on Apr 13, 2005 at 04:56 PM
Don't forget, the 750 also comes with a learning remote.  ;D

just for info. volume knobs  are diff. one is aluminum and the other is not but who cares...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: d00dZ on Apr 20, 2005 at 04:41 PM
Just got a new pair of Wharfedale D9.SRs over the weekend to complete my 7.1 setup. I'm trying out using DPLIIx to decode 5.1/6.1 software, and it seems to be working fine. Panning sounds seem more accurate, like in the Balin's Tomb scene of LOTR FOTR where you hear the cave troll move left to right. I haven't tested it yet extensively though to say whether it's better with our without the Yamaha Cinema DSP on, and that gives me more excuses to test, test, test.  >:D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: itgbkj on Apr 20, 2005 at 05:21 PM
Doodz... i have a Yamaha RXV450, it's not much compared to the 650.  Right now, it's equipped with Wharfedale D9.2... i'm about to purchase surrounds and center.  I read you have Wharfedale D9.SRs.  Is it really better than Wh-2?  I mean, is it also Di-polar?  I know, this is not the right place to discuss as such, maybe, if you can spend time, can you PM me instead?  thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: nicolo on May 02, 2005 at 11:05 PM
question lang on LFEs of our yammies, bakit yung sub ko parang napapagod agad, pag start of the movie (saving private ryan) dinig pa yung bayo, pero in awhile no sound comes out of my sub already. I checked the ff: power, cables and LFE settings ok naman lahat.  May sira kaya yung Sub out ng receiver ko?  What I do is on/off ko yung power of the sub, mga ilang beses bago uli siya gumana . . .  tapos nawawala uli.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on May 03, 2005 at 03:32 AM
That fact that restarting the sub restores the "bayo" then goes out again suggest it's a subwoofer problem.   Perhaps you can borrow another sub and check.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: obey on May 03, 2005 at 03:33 AM
Saan banda sya nawawalan ng tunog?  After ba ng long quiet/dialogue scenes? Kung oo, adjust mo na lang yung subwoofer and LFE levels sa receiver mo.  Set mo sa zero.  Sa sub ka na lang mag-make ng adjustments sa volume.  Baka nadedetect lang ng sub mo na walang LFEs kaya gumagana ang auto power off feature  nya.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on May 03, 2005 at 03:50 AM
question lang on LFEs of our yammies, bakit yung sub ko parang napapagod agad, pag start of the movie (saving private ryan) dinig pa yung bayo, pero in awhile no sound comes out of my sub already. I checked the ff: power, cables and LFE settings ok naman lahat.  May sira kaya yung Sub out ng receiver ko?  What I do is on/off ko yung power of the sub, mga ilang beses bago uli siya gumana . . .  tapos nawawala uli.

When I bought my CHT-10 (sale) a few months ago, I had this same problem. It usually turns itself off specially when I was testing it at 12 o clock volume on very specific sequences of SW Episode I w/ loud LFE  , IE, when Sebulba's pod racer explodes, when this robot gets sucked in to a pod racer engine. I tried all sorts of kalikots & nothing seemed to fix it.

I was able to change this unit into a new one at Sound Dimension. But when I returned a month later, the salesperson there told me that they were able to sell my old unit and there was no problem at all with the new owner.

Our conclusion: it might be the power input, must be that my Auto Voltage Regulator is only 1000 watts or the fuse box itself was only 20 amps (maybe). But anyway, we moved from that house already and my Velo is working fine. Try looking into this power angle.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on May 03, 2005 at 04:23 AM
Saan banda sya nawawalan ng tunog?  After ba ng long quiet/dialogue scenes? Kung oo, adjust mo na lang yung subwoofer and LFE levels sa receiver mo.  Set mo sa zero.  Sa sub ka na lang mag-make ng adjustments sa volume.  Baka nadedetect lang ng sub mo na walang LFEs kaya gumagana ang auto power off feature  nya.

True, if there is no LFE signal for a long time, most subs go into auto-off or hibernation.  BUT...once an LFE signal is detected, the sub automatically turns ON.  So this on-off thing is often not noticed.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: migs26 on May 03, 2005 at 05:02 PM
mga bro,

just got my rxv-650 this weekend,  during audition napansin ko na the volume is set to -20 db pero ang lakas na ng tunog..

but pag dating sa bahay eh masyadong mahina  yung speakers @ -20db.. i need to set the volume sa +5 db in playing my DVDs..

ganun ba kalaki difference kung 4 ohms lang yung speakers ko?
or may problema yung AVR ko?

btw, i can only max my AVR to  +14 db? is this normal?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: zap|JDM on May 03, 2005 at 07:13 PM
8 ohms lang siguro ung speaker dun sa store. :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: duncanfranchise on May 03, 2005 at 07:23 PM
I need some help.  My Yamaha RXV-440 and NS-P436 6.1 setup are situated in a rather big and spacey living room.  Medyo kumakalat ang sound.  Can anybody offer any remedies for this problem?  Thanks.   :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on May 03, 2005 at 07:42 PM
8 ohms lang siguro ung speaker dun sa store. :)

it is my understanding that a 4-ohm speaker can go louder than an 8-ohmer having the same sensitivity as it will extract more watts from the amp. migs, can you post the specs of your speakers? and what speakers did you use for the demo?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: triplex on May 03, 2005 at 11:22 PM
When I bought my CHT-10 (sale) a few months ago, I had this same problem. It usually turns itself off specially when I was testing it at 12 o clock volume on very specific sequences of SW Episode I w/ loud LFE  , IE, when Sebulba's pod racer explodes, when this robot gets sucked in to a pod racer engine. I tried all sorts of kalikots & nothing seemed to fix it.

I was able to change this unit into a new one at Sound Dimension. But when I returned a month later, the salesperson there told me that they were able to sell my old unit and there was no problem at all with the new owner.

Our conclusion: it might be the power input, must be that my Auto Voltage Regulator is only 1000 watts or the fuse box itself was only 20 amps (maybe). But anyway, we moved from that house already and my Velo is working fine. Try looking into this power angle.

Thanks bros sa mga inputs, anyways do you guys have any idea if the power input may have affected the subs loss of sound?  am also  thinking it might be  the wattage output of my receiver . . .  it doesnt measure up to the required LFE signal of the sub, btw, i think 75W output nung sub out nung yammy.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on May 04, 2005 at 08:00 AM
Thanks bros sa mga inputs, anyways do you guys have any idea if the power input may have affected the subs loss of sound?  am also  thinking it might be  the wattage output of my receiver . . .  it doesnt measure up to the required LFE signal of the sub, btw, i think 75W output nung sub out nung yammy.

an active sub has it's own amp. it does not use any power from the receiver.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: d00dZ on May 04, 2005 at 08:47 AM
I need some help.  My Yamaha RXV-440 and NS-P436 6.1 setup are situated in a rather big and spacey living room.  Medyo kumakalat ang sound.  Can anybody offer any remedies for this problem?  Thanks.   :)

Kumakalat? You're probably getting to much reflections and/or too little dispersion from your big spacey room. Maybe you can get some room treatments, or spice up your HT room with some sound absorbent knickknacks. There's a listening room improvements thread somewhere around here.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: migs26 on May 04, 2005 at 09:05 AM
it is my understanding that a 4-ohm speaker can go louder than an 8-ohmer having the same sensitivity as it will extract more watts from the amp. migs, can you post the specs of your speakers? and what speakers did you use for the demo?

dont now much about the specs of my speakers..it is my old floorstander da1-chi..i just know that it is 4 ohm because i test it using volt meter.

the speakers used in the demo are the AE evo series...

relatively the loudness of EVO series @ -20db is comparable to the loudness of my da1-chi @ -5db..

i'm also thinking that the sub might be also the factor..because at home im not using sub, while at the audition they are using 12" sub...

ganun nga kaya? o may problem ung AVR?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on May 04, 2005 at 09:23 AM
baka mababa sensitivity ng speaker mo.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on May 04, 2005 at 10:09 AM
mga bro,

just got my rxv-650 this weekend,  during audition napansin ko na the volume is set to -20 db pero ang lakas na ng tunog..

but pag dating sa bahay eh masyadong mahina  yung speakers @ -20db.. i need to set the volume sa +5 db in playing my DVDs..

DId you try to check the impedance switch at the back of the Yammy? I forgot if the default was at 6 ohms or 8 ohms, but if you are using 4ohm speakers, you should set the impedance switch to 6 ohms.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on May 04, 2005 at 10:39 AM
Thanks bros sa mga inputs, anyways do you guys have any idea if the power input may have affected the subs loss of sound?  am also  thinking it might be  the wattage output of my receiver . . .  it doesnt measure up to the required LFE signal of the sub, btw, i think 75W output nung sub out nung yammy.

Sub-output in receivers are line level or preamp level.  They only go for a few MILLIWATTS, not even 1 watt.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on May 04, 2005 at 10:48 AM
I need some help.  My Yamaha RXV-440 and NS-P436 6.1 setup are situated in a rather big and spacey living room.  Medyo kumakalat ang sound.  Can anybody offer any remedies for this problem?  Thanks.   :)

The RXV-440 is an entry level receiver that will have difficulty filling-in a large room even at full volume.  Yamaha is known to overstate its power  by rating per channel individually, instead of all channels driven simultanosuly at full bandwidth.  If you really have a large room you want to fill, you may have to get a really powerful amp.  And I don't think this model has multi-channel pre-outs so you can use more powerful amps.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on May 04, 2005 at 10:57 AM
dont now much about the specs of my speakers..it is my old floorstander da1-chi..i just know that it is 4 ohm because i test it using volt meter.

The 4-ohms you read from a voltmeter is the voice coil resistance.  The impedance is higher, so your dai1chi could be 6-8 ohms.

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the speakers used in the demo are the AE evo series...

relatively the loudness of EVO series @ -20db is comparable to the loudness of my da1-chi @ -5db..

i'm also thinking that the sub might be also the factor..because at home im not using sub, while at the audition they are using 12" sub...

ganun nga kaya? o may problem ung AVR?

I wouldn't suspect the AVR as yet.  Using a sub will definitely add decibels and be more impressive as it is another active sound source with its own amp and speaker.   So your impression in the showroom could be dampened if you don't have an active sub at home.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: migs26 on May 04, 2005 at 11:34 AM
DId you try to check the impedance switch at the back of the Yammy? I forgot if the default was at 6 ohms or 8 ohms, but if you are using 4ohm speakers, you should set the impedance switch to 6 ohms.

yup..tried switching to both settings..no distinct effect on both setting..

im inclined to believe na baka sa sensitivity lang ng speaker tsaka yung add'l power lang ng 12" sub kaya parang mas malakas talaga sa showroom.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on May 04, 2005 at 11:38 AM
yup..tried switching to both settings..no distinct effect on both setting..

im inclined to believe na baka sa sensitivity lang ng speaker tsaka yung add'l power lang ng 12" sub kaya parang mas malakas talaga sa showroom.

do you listen in stereo? you said there was a sub in the demo. your speakers might be still set to SMALL.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on May 04, 2005 at 11:44 AM
OO nga, baka naka-SMALL pa yung setting right from the showroom.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: migs26 on May 04, 2005 at 01:14 PM
do you listen in stereo? you said there was a sub in the demo. your speakers might be still set to SMALL.

same settings sa showroom..large speakers na rin setting..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on May 04, 2005 at 01:28 PM
do you listen in stereo? you said there was a sub in the demo. your speakers might be still set to SMALL.

I always switch my front speakers from SMALL to LARGE from time to time and there wasnt really any significant effect with volume levels..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: obey on May 04, 2005 at 01:44 PM
Migs,

Try playing around with the "Dynamic Range" settings of your receiver.  I usually set it at max.  You may have accidentally set it to minimum or standard while fiddling with the receiver's menu. HTH.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on May 04, 2005 at 02:31 PM
im inclined to believe na baka sa sensitivity lang ng speaker tsaka yung add'l power lang ng 12" sub kaya parang mas malakas talaga sa showroom.

There's a big chance you made the right diagnosis.  The speakers are different.  The listening conditions are different. Don't forget that showrooms are especially treated accoustically to make their AV merchandise sound better.  You're not alone in being disappointed when bringing their new toys at home.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: migs26 on May 04, 2005 at 04:55 PM
ano ba normal listening volume setting nyo when watching DVD @ 6 channels?

OK na ba kayo sa -20db ?   ???
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on May 04, 2005 at 05:12 PM
ano ba normal listening volume setting nyo when watching DVD @ 6 channels?

OK na ba kayo sa -20db ? ???

For me -20db  to -16 db is good enough pag DTS. I get to -10 sometimes pag DD. I rarely reach +5db

I use Yamaha 650 & 125-150w 8ohm speakers
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on May 04, 2005 at 07:21 PM
migs,

check your wiring. baka out of phase. red to red, black to black.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: obey on May 04, 2005 at 07:41 PM
Not sure with the newer yamaha models but with my rx-v430 nabibingi na ko sa -35 lalo na pag DTS yung DVD :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on May 05, 2005 at 11:18 AM
ano ba normal listening volume setting nyo when watching DVD @ 6 channels?

OK na ba kayo sa -20db ?   ???

Migs,

I suspect the sensitivity of your speaker is low compared to AE in the store.

I have my 630 and my listening level (loud already) is -35dB. My typical listening level is -50dB.

Also check the menu of Yamaha. I have not done this actually, but your menu may have contradictory setting. Though the FRONT LEFT-RIGHT can be set to LARGE, there is another setting which tells the receiver where to divert the subwoofer signal - either to FRONTS, to SUBWOOFER, or to BOTH. Baka naka SUBWOOFER ka lang. Dont know if this affects the LARGE setting of FRONTs.

As an additional input, what is you connex to DVD player - only optical?

Baka sa stereo listening, the store made use of analog outs of DVD, which can give different input signal level to the receiver - resulting to louder sound.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on May 05, 2005 at 11:26 AM
The RXV-440 is an entry level receiver that will have difficulty filling-in a large room even at full volume.  Yamaha is known to overstate its power  by rating per channel individually, instead of all channels driven simultanosuly at full bandwidth.  If you really have a large room you want to fill, you may have to get a really powerful amp.  And I don't think this model has multi-channel pre-outs so you can use more powerful amps.

Even if you have big amp power and have a low sensitive speaker, will not fill a very large room.

EVen if you have entry level low-power Yamaha 430 amp BUT a high sensitive speaker can fill a very large room.

Big amp power is not a gurantee it will fill a very large room with sound. Kailangan pa bang imemorize yan!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: migs26 on May 05, 2005 at 12:18 PM
Migs,

I suspect the sensitivity of your speaker is low compared to AE in the store.

I have my 630 and my listening level (loud already) is -35dB. My typical listening level is -50dB.

Also check the menu of Yamaha. I have not done this actually, but your menu may have contradictory setting. Though the FRONT LEFT-RIGHT can be set to LARGE, there is another setting which tells the receiver where to divert the subwoofer signal - either to FRONTS, to SUBWOOFER, or to BOTH. Baka naka SUBWOOFER ka lang. Dont know if this affects the LARGE setting of FRONTs.

As an additional input, what is you connex to DVD player - only optical?

Baka sa stereo listening, the store made use of analog outs of DVD, which can give different input signal level to the receiver - resulting to louder sound.

yup, toslink ung connection ko...will try to test mamaya ung analog connexn...
actually..ung setting ko is via YPAO's automatic setting.. large ung fronts..small ctr & surroun..no subwoofer..
according sa manual..pag small ung ctr & surround & sub...i-di-divert ung  signals sa fronts...


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migs,

check your wiring. baka out of phase. red to red, black to black.


oks naman ung wiring..


baka sensitivity lang & ung add'l power ng sub sa showroom...unfortunately wala akong mahihiraman na high-sensitivity speakers eh..para ma check & validate ung diagnosis ko..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on May 05, 2005 at 12:31 PM
baka sensitivity lang & ung add'l power ng sub sa showroom...unfortunately wala akong mahihiraman na high-sensitivity speakers eh..para ma check & validate ung diagnosis ko..

Baka oras na para mag:

UPGRADE >:D, UPGRADE >:D,UPGRADE >:D

       >:D >:D >:D

Hehehe ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on May 05, 2005 at 01:03 PM
Even if you have big amp power and have a low sensitive speaker, will not fill a very large room.

EVen if you have entry level low-power Yamaha 430 amp BUT a high sensitive speaker can fill a very large room.

Big amp power is not a gurantee it will fill a very large room with sound. Kailangan pa bang imemorize yan!

I suggest you read my post thoroughly.  The conditional term "MAY" in my recommendation suggests there are other options to consider.  But for practical purposes, and with most commercially available speakers out there ranging in anechoic sensitivity from 86db to 89db, you have no choice but to pair them with really powerful amps if you want to fill a large room.  Now if you can recommend a 6.1 speaker set with in-room sensitivity of 94db or higher to be paired with an entry level receiver, say so.   
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: d00dZ on May 05, 2005 at 01:20 PM
Baka oras na para mag:

UPGRADE >:D, UPGRADE >:D,UPGRADE >:D

       >:D >:D >:D

Hehehe ;D

Makiki-

UPGRADE >:D, UPGRADE >:D,UPGRADE >:D

lang ako.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: migs26 on May 05, 2005 at 01:23 PM
Makiki-

UPGRADE >:D, UPGRADE >:D,UPGRADE >:D

lang ako.  ;D

hahaha!!  ;D  bumu-bwelo lang ako..schedule for upgrade na talaga ung mga speakers...mahirap kasi ung sabay sabay upgrade yari tayo kay wifey nyan hehe!!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on May 05, 2005 at 01:44 PM
yup, toslink ung connection ko...will try to test mamaya ung analog connexn...
actually..ung setting ko is via YPAO's automatic setting.. large ung fronts..small ctr & surroun..no subwoofer..
according sa manual..pag small ung ctr & surround & sub...i-di-divert ung  signals sa fronts...



You could tinker with the YPAO settings other than automatic.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on May 05, 2005 at 06:39 PM
... The conditional term "MAY" in my recommendation ... 

... ?SUGGESTS? there are other options to consider!
 
Sorry I can not read that your mind has that extra suggestion embedded on the word MAY! ;D

So big power amp is not the only issue if you want to fill a large room with sound, you may opt to go power amp way but you need to consider other things.

The klipsch speaker F1 is a floor stander with 93dB. The F2 has 95.5dB and the F3 has 97dB. Their surround S3 has 93.5dB.

Your 86dB speaker will need 500watts of power (if it can accomodate such power) while your 89dB will need 250 watts (if also it can be accomodated in it) to match the loudness of F3 driven at full 32 watts of power only or to match F2 with just 64 watts of power or 100watts with F1!

Or the other way around.

I only need 8 watts to F3, or 16 watts to F2 or 25W to F1 to match the loudness of you your 86dB speaker already driven by 125watts of power!

IMHO, the higher the power your amp is, the more useless it becomes!  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: d00dZ on May 05, 2005 at 06:49 PM
migs26, there's another advantage to getting a sub. According to ecoustics.com, all HT systems should set their speakers to all small, unlesss you've got big-ass powered tower fronts with integrated subwoofers. With all speakers set to small and given the proper crossover settings (80 hz per THX, or however you determine what's best for you), your amp and speakers will have more room to breathe since they won't be forced to reproduce the low frequencies meant for LFE anyway.  :)

BTW, ano nga ba sensitivity ng speakers mo? Can't find it in your posts. Baka yun lang ang issue sa umaatikabong balitaktakan na ito.  >:D

I don't trust YPAO 100% cause before it used to read my previous Wharfedale WH-3 surrounds as large. I use it for initial settings after every change in gear then tweak with my ears.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on May 05, 2005 at 06:54 PM
I-pair mo ang Klipsch F3 sa Yamaha 430.

Yeah, right....

Duh!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on May 05, 2005 at 07:04 PM
...

IMHO, the higher the power your amp is, the more useless it becomes!  ;)

makiki-opine lang po...higher power may be quite 'useless' in terms of dB, but is quite useful in avoiding 'clipping'. most people will crank the volume up w/o knowing that a 3 dB gain requires 2x the power. given this, i prefer higher power amps. while more power is not always necessary, it is always welcome for me.

peace po tayong lahat :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on May 06, 2005 at 09:39 AM
I-pair mo ang Klipsch F3 sa Yamaha 430.

Yeah, right....

Duh!

Right on.   ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Maestro on May 06, 2005 at 10:13 AM
...being a newbie, enjoy ako magbasa dito...thanks sa lahat.

pero talgang MA-INIT ang panahon ngayon... whew! hehehehe
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on May 06, 2005 at 10:18 AM
...being a newbie, enjoy ako magbasa dito...thanks sa lahat.

pero talgang MA-INIT ang panahon ngayon... whew! hehehehe

Maestro, maligamgam pa lang yan ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on May 06, 2005 at 10:19 AM
...being a newbie, enjoy ako magbasa dito...thanks sa lahat.

pero talgang MA-INIT ang panahon ngayon... whew! hehehehe

SOLUSYON DYAN-

Panahon na para mag:

UPGRADE >:D UPGRADE >:D UPGRADE >:D

Para lahat masaya!

Lalo na mga AV stores.

AND you help the economy when you spend, di ba? I just heard that watching THX1138 last night
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on May 06, 2005 at 10:27 AM
SOLUSYON DYAN-

Panahon na para mag:

UPGRADE >:D UPGRADE >:D UPGRADE >:D

Para lahat masaya!

Lalo na mga AV stores.

AND you help the economy when you spend, di ba? I learned that from watching THX1138 last night



mat,

mukhang nde na kaya ng caladryl at off lotion ah ;D mukhang me maitim ka na namang balak >:D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on May 06, 2005 at 10:33 AM

mat,

mukhang nde na kaya ng caladryl at off lotion ah ;D mukhang me maitim ka na namang balak >:D

Hehe, actually di para sa akin yung advice, its for everyone else  ;D. Tapos na gastos ko & role ko in helping the economy.

I was also trying to cool down the weather :D

Cheers everyone ;) :D :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: migs26 on May 06, 2005 at 11:56 AM
migs26, there's another advantage to getting a sub. According to ecoustics.com, all HT systems should set their speakers to all small, unlesss you've got big-ass powered tower fronts with integrated subwoofers. With all speakers set to small and given the proper crossover settings (80 hz per THX, or however you determine what's best for you), your amp and speakers will have more room to breathe since they won't be forced to reproduce the low frequencies meant for LFE anyway.  :)

BTW, ano nga ba sensitivity ng speakers mo? Can't find it in your posts. Baka yun lang ang issue sa umaatikabong balitaktakan na ito.  >:D

I don't trust YPAO 100% cause before it used to read my previous Wharfedale WH-3 surrounds as large. I use it for initial settings after every change in gear then tweak with my ears.  ;D

agree ako dyan...

regarding sa senstivity ng speakers.. im not sure sa sensitivity ng speaker..siguro 86db-88db since low-end lang yung speakers...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on May 06, 2005 at 12:17 PM
agree ako dyan...

regarding sa senstivity ng speakers.. im not sure sa sensitivity ng speaker..siguro 86db-88db since low-end lang yung speakers...

I used to have Yamaha RXV450 and Daiichi DTX towers as my first HT. 89db ata, no problems whatsoever with regards to volume. Mas malakas nga sya than the M72 that I bought afterwards.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: migs26 on May 06, 2005 at 12:31 PM
comparing the loudness of my old Pioneer amp (100 wpc) and the new Yamaha 650...using the same set of speakers..

sa Pioneer 12' o clock yung  volume ko while dito nga sa Yamaha 650 naka -5db ako..while watching the same movie..Saving Private Ryan...

di ko alam kung kung ano equivalent ng 12' o clock sa volume setting in term of db in my new yammy...

di ba -30 db =  50% power ???
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on May 06, 2005 at 12:42 PM
comparing the loudness of my old Pioneer amp (100 wpc) and the new Yamaha 650...using the same set of speakers..

sa Pioneer 12' o clock yung  volume ko while dito nga sa Yamaha 650 naka -5db ako..while watching the same movie..Saving Private Ryan...

di ko alam kung kung ano equivalent ng 12' o clock sa volume setting in term of db in my new yammy...

di ba -30 db =  50% power ???

0 dB = full power. -3 dB, 50% power. -6 dB, 25%. and so on. i would like to put it this way.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: migs26 on May 06, 2005 at 04:06 PM
0 dB = full power. -3 dB, 50% power. -6 dB, 25%. and so on. i would like to put it this way.

please correct me if mali mga assumptions ko...

(1)   kung 12'o clock volume setting  == 50% power


(2)  accdg dito

 http://www.siemon.com/us/white_papers/99-05-17- whatis-inadb.asp


 -5 db == 31.6% power

hence...lumalabas na mas malakas pa ung yamaha ko...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on May 06, 2005 at 04:29 PM
please correct me if mali mga assumptions ko...

(1)   kung 12'o clock volume setting  == 50% power


(2)  accdg dito. http://www.siemon.com/us/white_papers/99-05-17- whatis-inadb.asp


 -5 db == 31.6% power

hence...lumalabas na mas malakas pa ung yamaha ko...

12'oclock doesn't always mean 50% power. it depends. try this formula:

dB = 10*log(Power).

assume Power=100 watts(full) then dB=20. let's assume this is 0 dB in your receiver.

therefore, your -5dB is actually 15 dB.

15 dB=10*log(ActualPowerUsed)

ActualPowerUsed=10^(15/10)=31.6---->31.6% of full power (100 watts)

to simplify (para ala na computation), basing on the equation:

-3 dB is about 50% total power
-6 dB is about 25% total power
-9 dB is about 12.5% total power
-10 db is exactly 10% total power

hope that helps.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: abj104 on May 06, 2005 at 04:52 PM
sir migs26,
makisingit lang sir,baka naman yung volume setting ng front speaker mo eh naka set sa >-10db instead of >Normal setting .wala pa kasi nakabanggit nito.

mine is rxv800 pero alam ko every yamaha has this feature.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: triplex on May 08, 2005 at 12:10 AM
mga bros, what store offers the lowest price for the RXV 450?  been to ambassador at Shang kanina and their offer was 14,600 cash.

any suggestions?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on May 09, 2005 at 10:24 AM
mga bros, what store offers the lowest price for the RXV 450? been to ambassador at Shang kanina and their offer was 14,600 cash.

Ok na yang price nya, I got mine for 15,600 last year and I got them for 14,800 sa S&S last month when I set up a HT for my friend.

If you want lower prices, you can either look for a 2nd hand unit or just wait it our for a few months till they release the new models and put the 450 on clearance sale. Yun nga lang, you cant enjoy your HT right away  ;).
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on May 09, 2005 at 12:55 PM
I-pair mo ang Klipsch F3 sa Yamaha 430.

Yeah, right....

Duh!

 ;).

I am not into price matching.   :P
And I dont believe price is of any indication of performance (even if 430 is darn cheap).  ;D

Epos-11 for the GC, anyone?  :o

I am into system matching!  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on May 09, 2005 at 01:03 PM
Right on.   ;D

Yeah!

will retain my 630 and go upgrade my speakers to higher sensitivity and better quality than have your outboard high-wattage hyped R amps  :P (and pay more electric bills to enrich Napocor)  ;D

Outboard GC, that's another story!   :D  I have to retain my low sensitivity wharfs!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on May 09, 2005 at 01:18 PM
Ok na yang price nya, I got mine for 15,600 last year and I got them for 14,800 sa S&S last month when I set up a HT for my friend.

If you want lower prices, you can either look for a 2nd hand unit or just wait it our for a few months till they release the new models and put the 450 on clearance sale. Yun nga lang, you cant enjoy your HT right away  ;).

Hmm, I just remembered that SOUND DIMENSION put their RXV450 on sale for 14,500 2 months ago. I dunno if they can still give that price.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on May 09, 2005 at 01:57 PM
Haven't been to Raon these many years.  But I recall the stretch had one or two AV shops that carried brand new and warranteed Sansui, Pioneer, Yamaha, Technics and Tannoy gears in my early days in the hobby.  And in my price canvasses then,  they were certainly cheaper than any SALE price that Makati had to offer. And those prices were still negotiable. I wonder if they still do.  You just have to contend with the terrible traffic congestion and risky parking.  Raon was not just for Dai1chis and Electowns.  There were direct importers as well.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Philander on May 09, 2005 at 02:35 PM
Try mo sa Listening n Style - Shangrila. I think they can give.... lowest than any other AV shop since sila ang direct importer ng yamaha products (ata).
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: d00dZ on May 13, 2005 at 12:35 PM
Question for the x50 users: Is the pink noise generated by our receiver supposed to be the same across all 7 channels? Yung sakin kasi each channel is clearly distinguishable. Is this timbre/pitch difference attributable to the specific accoustics of my room and/or the peculiarities of each of my speakers? I'm using an all-Wharfedale Diamond 9 setup which I specifically pursued to maximize tonal matching. Kasi kung talangang iba't-ibang pink noise per channel, e di it's all with the receiver lang pala. But if its with my speakers, that means I haven't achieved my tonal matching goal.

Can someone please clear this up for me?  ??? Thanks.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on May 13, 2005 at 01:03 PM
The receiver is supposed to belt out identical pink noise to all channels.  There's a good chance that from where you are listening , you might be hearing differently from one speaker to another because of the immediate accoustical properties near each speaker. So what gets to your ears may be different if one speaker is closer to reverberant surfaces while the other has absorptive surfaces.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on May 13, 2005 at 01:06 PM
Question for the x50 users: Is the pink noise generated by our receiver supposed to be the same across all 7 channels? Yung sakin kasi each channel is clearly distinguishable. Is this timbre/pitch difference attributable to the specific accoustics of my room and/or the peculiarities of each of my speakers? I'm using an all-Wharfedale Diamond 9 setup which I specifically pursued to maximize tonal matching. Kasi kung talangang iba't-ibang pink noise per channel, e di it's all with the receiver lang pala. But if its with my speakers, that means I haven't achieved my tonal matching goal.

Can someone please clear this up for me?  ??? Thanks.  ;)

To my knowledge, they are exactly the same all throughout the 7/9 channels, I think it's a 1 KHz pink noise. With my 650 and Euros 8 system, they sound the same all throughout. But, my ears may be in error.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gaol on May 13, 2005 at 01:17 PM
Question for the x50 users: Is the pink noise generated by our receiver supposed to be the same across all 7 channels? Yung sakin kasi each channel is clearly distinguishable. Is this timbre/pitch difference attributable to the specific accoustics of my room and/or the peculiarities of each of my speakers? I'm using an all-Wharfedale Diamond 9 setup which I specifically pursued to maximize tonal matching. Kasi kung talangang iba't-ibang pink noise per channel, e di it's all with the receiver lang pala. But if its with my speakers, that means I haven't achieved my tonal matching goal.

Can someone please clear this up for me?  ??? Thanks.  ;)

It should be the same. To verify, you can also try a test disk such as AVIA, which states specifically the nature of the pink noise it cycles throughout the speakers.

As av_phile said the differences could be the room acoustics affecting what you perceive to hear. I think that's where the sound equalization feature  present in higher end receivers comes in. The YPAO  of yamaha's higher end models  (rxv1500? and up) have this advanced function, but not the 650 and lower and I think not even the 750.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: d00dZ on May 13, 2005 at 01:57 PM
You guys are probably right, room acoustics is most likely to blame for my observed differences in the pink noise. My SB are ceiling mounted, SS wall mounted, C on a cabinet... in a concrete room filled with all sorts of different materials with presumably varying acoustic properties. Too bad the 650 doesn't have the higher end YPAO. Thanks for clearing it up, mga guru!  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on May 14, 2005 at 10:06 AM
You guys are probably right, room acoustics is most likely to blame for my observed differences in the pink noise. My SB are ceiling mounted, SS wall mounted, C on a cabinet... in a concrete room filled with all sorts of different materials with presumably varying acoustic properties. Too bad the 650 doesn't have the higher end YPAO. Thanks for clearing it up, mga guru!  ;)

In this aspect, I can safely say you guys are incorrect about the YPAO info. The Yamaha RX-V650 (that I have at home) and the RX-V750 both have the YPAO. I've used it, and believe me, it is smart. No way of fooling it.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gaol on May 14, 2005 at 10:19 AM
In this aspect, I can safely say you guys are incorrect about the YPAO info. The Yamaha RX-V650 (that I have at home) and the RX-V750 both have the YPAO. I've used it, and believe me, it is smart. No way of fooling it.  ;D

Yes, both the 650 (which I have) and the 750 have the basic version of the YPAO BUT it does not have the sound equalization feature present in the advanced YPAO of the higher end models, only calibration. That was what we were referring to.  Cheers!  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: d00dZ on May 16, 2005 at 08:26 AM
In this aspect, I can safely say you guys are incorrect about the YPAO info. The Yamaha RX-V650 (that I have at home) and the RX-V750 both have the YPAO. I've used it, and believe me, it is smart. No way of fooling it. ;D

Check this out:

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/receivers/receiver_flash/YPAO_flash.htm

It mostly talks about the sound equalization feature that gaol refers to. I highly doubt we have this in our 650s given my situation. I believe all I get from my YPAO is speaker distance, size, and level calibration, nothing more. Sa higher models nga lang talaga ito. Sayang!  :-[

Peace!  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on May 16, 2005 at 08:50 AM
how much yung rx-v1500?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jerq on May 16, 2005 at 10:44 AM
how much yung rx-v1500?


i think rx-v1500 is around 42k.  panalo to especially kung thx certified din lahat ng units mo and speakers.... im planning to buy this also kya lang masyadong expensive.. ill guess ill stick to my rx-v540 muna.... ill buy widescreen tv nlng muna.....  :(

i guess the important thing is that u can play dts and dd tracks..... and also ung pagging contento....

goodluck bro...  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on May 16, 2005 at 12:48 PM
Yes, both the 650 (which I have) and the 750 have the basic version of the YPAO BUT it does not have the sound equalization feature present in the advanced YPAO of the higher end models, only calibration. That was what we were referring to.  Cheers!  ;D

Oh, my bad, bros. Sorry! He he, didn't notice 'advanced'.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on May 17, 2005 at 03:40 PM
http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/audioprinciples/amplifiers/receiverpower3.php

Here's a nice article about product branding from yamaha.  Seems one or two models actually have identical innards and the difference of 5 watts between  is simply a matter of bumping up the rail votages.
Title: Stereo in RXV-450 Receiver
Post by: itgbkj on May 24, 2005 at 03:51 PM
Hi.

The DVD player is connected to the receiver (RXV-450) via Optical Cable.

All 6.1 speakers are connected accordingly using :
  Front L/R
  Center
  Rear L/R
  Center Rear
  Subwoofer out

When I choose "stereo" when I listen to music, it is expected that only the Fronts will be working.  However, I wanted the Sub to function as well.  What should I do to make the Sub do the LFEs?
Title: Re: Stereo in RXV-450 Receiver
Post by: bumblebee on May 24, 2005 at 04:11 PM
Hi.

The DVD player is connected to the receiver (RXV-450) via Optical Cable.

All 6.1 speakers are connected accordingly using :
  Front L/R
  Center
  Rear L/R
  Center Rear
  Subwoofer out

When I choose "stereo" when I listen to music, it is expected that only the Fronts will be working.  However, I wanted the Sub to function as well.  What should I do to make the Sub do the LFEs?

i just read the manual and i don't think this is possible w/ the 450. you can use the L/R outs of your player to connect to the sub, though. yun nga lang, palit ka ng palit ng connection.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on May 24, 2005 at 04:51 PM
I am not familiar with Yamaha receivers but I think most receivers have the sub-out only when in multichannel digital mode.  That's when the bass management circuit is engaged which operates only in the digital domain.  Setting to Stereo Mode often bypasses this digital processing so you have no .1 LFE output.

Perhaps if you leave the setting as 5.1 and let the receiver digitally process the digital signals , you could get .1 LFE even if there's only L and R signals, minus and center and surrounds.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: itgbkj on May 24, 2005 at 05:41 PM
thanks bumblebee and av_phile1.

You are right - there is now way for me to use the sub using stereo from the receiver.  :(  Only option is really to by-pass the sub-out and connect the cables directly into the sub.  Oh well... I'll find a way to do that the easy way.

Your messages also confirmed my hunch - I thought, at first, I was not "configuring" the receiver the right way.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Stereo in RXV-450 Receiver
Post by: KEN on May 24, 2005 at 07:29 PM
Hi.

The DVD player is connected to the receiver (RXV-450) via Optical Cable.

All 6.1 speakers are connected accordingly using :
  Front L/R
  Center
  Rear L/R
  Center Rear
  Subwoofer out

When I choose "stereo" when I listen to music, it is expected that only the Fronts will be working.  However, I wanted the Sub to function as well.  What should I do to make the Sub do the LFEs?


You can try setting the main L/R to sml or try setting sub-out/LFE to both
my old Yamaha have this option though not sure if it will work on
newer models.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on May 24, 2005 at 08:11 PM
kung me pre-outs lang sana yung 450. you could have routed the LFE to the fronts then connect the FL/FR preouts to the sub.

if your sub can accept speaker level inputs, you can connect the sub to the FL/FR speaker terminals.
Title: Re: Stereo in RXV-450 Receiver
Post by: MAtZTER on May 25, 2005 at 11:56 AM
Hi.

The DVD player is connected to the receiver (RXV-450) via Optical Cable.

All 6.1 speakers are connected accordingly using :
  Front L/R
  Center
  Rear L/R
  Center Rear
  Subwoofer out

When I choose "stereo" when I listen to music, it is expected that only the Fronts will be working.  However, I wanted the Sub to function as well.  What should I do to make the Sub do the LFEs?

I dont recall having this problem when I was still using my 450, or maybe I wasnt into 2 channel music back then. Just like Ken said, just set your LFE setting to subs, or BOTH.

With the RXV-650, all I do is use the "direct mode" and the subs also work with the 2 front channels.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: boyethampi on May 30, 2005 at 10:53 AM
Hi,

Just bought a Yamaha RXV-650 about a few weeks ago and have noticed that when playing audio CDs, there are times na humihina ang sound coming from the speakers.  Have any of the members experienced this? What can be the problem?  Hindi naman ito nangyayari when I watch DVDs.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on May 30, 2005 at 11:47 AM
Bros, would it be a good idea to use ceiling mounted speakers for presence channels? I was thinking of putting it in the ceiling just a little bit in front of the TV & center channel. Or would classic forward firing speakers be better?

TIA  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: losi_phile on Jun 16, 2005 at 01:25 PM
For those interested...

Saw a shop in Robinsons-Galleria selling Yamaha RX-V750 for Php19,980 (cash basis only)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Jun 16, 2005 at 01:36 PM
For those interested...

Saw a shop in Robinsons-Galleria selling Yamaha RX-V750 for Php19,980 (cash basis only)

most probably electronics depot. mukhang ubusan na ng stocks ah.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: karipas on Jun 18, 2005 at 10:46 AM
For those interested...

Saw a shop in Robinsons-Galleria selling Yamaha RX-V750 for Php19,980 (cash basis only)

Hi Sirs,

Mukha nga pong bumaba prices ng RX-V750, another shop in Filinvest sells it at P20K.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Lawin on Jun 22, 2005 at 02:50 PM
Appreciate if you can share with me your settings for the impendance selector at the back of the Yamaha AVR.

I have a Yamaha 750 and Euros 8 speakers which have 6 ohms impendance, as suggested in the manual it should be set at 6. However, reading this thread there were suggestions to just leave it at 8 ohms for better sound clarity and the switch is just to comply with some regulations.

Just wish to find out from Yamaha owners what their actual setting is for the impedance selector and if there really are benefits if just by leaving it at 8 ohms (using 6 ohms speakers) OR better AVR protection if I set it 6 ohms (again using 6 ohms speakers).

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Jun 22, 2005 at 03:06 PM
Appreciate if you can share with me your settings for the impendance selector at the back of the Yamaha AVR.

I have a Yamaha 750 and Euros 8 speakers which have 6 ohms impendance, as suggested in the manual it should be set at 6. However, reading this thread there were suggestions to just leave it at 8 ohms for better sound clarity and the switch is just to comply with some regulations.

Just wish to find out from Yamaha owners what their actual setting is for the impedance selector and if there really are benefits if just by leaving it at 8 ohms (using 6 ohms speakers) OR better AVR protection if I set it 6 ohms (again using 6 ohms speakers).

Thanks in advance!

the ff came from audioholics.com's FAQ section. hope it helps.

Q: Fidelity Compromise from Impedance Selector Switch of Receiver

I have a question to ask you. I'm using a Sony DA50ES receiver and a set of Audio Pro Avantek series speaker(4 ohm speaker),should i set my impedance selector to 4 ohm for my Receiver? I found that the fidelity has drop significantly when i set the impedance to 4 ohm for a long time.

 

A: Fidelity, in audio terms, is faithfulness in audio output reproduction and generally is described in output frequency bandwidth. I am wondering if you meant that your Receiver's dynamic range has changed when you set the selector to 4 ohms and not that your fidelity has suffered.

 

If it is the dynamic range, this could mean the maximum output levels of your setup have decreased. . Some receivers feature a 4 ohm selector switch so they can get satisfy UL or some other type of electrical standards approval. This selector switch when set to 4 ohms reduces the supply voltage to the amplifier, and therefore reduces the overall available output power. While the Receiver manufacturer will pass UL standards testing, it will decrease the Receiver's dynamic range. If you don't have the selector set for 4 ohms, you have a greater dynamic range, but your tradeoff is more heat dissipated and greater power consumption.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jun 22, 2005 at 03:21 PM
Appreciate if you can share with me your settings for the impendance selector at the back of the Yamaha AVR.

I have a Yamaha 750 and Euros 8 speakers which have 6 ohms impendance, as suggested in the manual it should be set at 6. However, reading this thread there were suggestions to just leave it at 8 ohms for better sound clarity and the switch is just to comply with some regulations.

Just wish to find out from Yamaha owners what their actual setting is for the impedance selector and if there really are benefits if just by leaving it at 8 ohms (using 6 ohms speakers) OR better AVR protection if I set it 6 ohms (again using 6 ohms speakers).

Thanks in advance!

I remembered that Elmer of Daiichi showroom told me their speakers are all  6 or 8 ohms compatible. Please call them again to verify.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Lawin on Jun 22, 2005 at 03:34 PM
Thanks for the quick reply bumblebee .

Is it safe to assume that setting it at 8 ohms using 6 ohms speakers will not harm or damage the AVR after a while?

I do wish to set the AVR at 8 ohms but honestly, its quite an expensive investment and I dont want to induce problem with the AVR. Currently, when playing at -15 db for some time the AVR already  gets warm to the touch.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Jun 22, 2005 at 03:46 PM
i claim no expertise on this but if you're not experiencing frequent auto shutdowns w/ the 8-ohm setting, your avr's ok.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Lawin on Jun 23, 2005 at 02:16 PM
Thanks Guys! Will try it over the weekend and see if there is a noticable improvement and if the AVR will heat-up faster.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Rhandz on Jun 25, 2005 at 12:33 AM
Guys newbie po. iam planning to setup my first HT system. Iam looking for the 450 as my receivers, maliit lang kasi budget ko. Which of the 3, Wharfedale 9 series, gale or Dai-ichi Euros, would you recommend to pair with the 450? I know its best to audition them, kaso bihira ako makapunta ng manila, I live in subic olongapo.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: zakkaz on Jun 25, 2005 at 10:28 AM
Guys newbie po. iam planning to setup my first HT system. Iam looking for the 450 as my receivers, maliit lang kasi budget ko. Which of the 3, Wharfedale 9 series, gale or Dai-ichi Euros, would you recommend to pair with the 450? I know its best to audition them, kaso bihira ako makapunta ng manila, I live in subic olongapo.
i think go for the wharfedale instead
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: pilyo on Jun 25, 2005 at 11:39 AM
yeah, go for the wharfedale diamond 9!   :D  ...btw, how much is a pair of 9.1s?

(another option would be the monitor audio bronze b2 standmount speaker.  i used to use them with an rx-v440, and despite what some people warned me about mismatching, i thought they sounded great together!)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Jun 25, 2005 at 12:09 PM
yeah, go for the wharfedale diamond 9!   :D  ...btw, how much is a pair of 9.1s?

(another option would be the monitor audio bronze b2 standmount speaker.  i used to use them with an rx-v440, and despite what some people warned me about mismatching, i thought they sounded great together!)

the 9.1's costs php5500. as for matching, your ears should decide. and you did just that.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: pilyo on Jun 25, 2005 at 02:41 PM
whoa, only p5.5k for a diamond 9.1?  in that case rhandz should forget about the bronze b2s, which, at the 12.8k/pair quote i got last month from a shop in greenbelt, are overpriced. 

in some other asean countries there was a price slash a few months ago.  it used to be somewhat cheaper in the phils---enough so that there were cases of guys buying in manila and shipping it to singapore---but not anymore.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Rhandz on Jun 25, 2005 at 10:16 PM
Guys thank you sa response. I might get the 9.4 and 9CS muna, i'll use my old sony speakers as rear's. Yung sub to follow na lang. ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: zakkaz on Jun 26, 2005 at 12:14 PM
Guys thank you sa response. I might get the 9.4 and 9CS muna, i'll use my old sony speakers as rear's. Yung sub to follow na lang. ;)
try going to spectra @ parksquare 1 they have on display all the diamond 9 speakers @ the exhibit area of parksquare 1
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ASuL on Jun 27, 2005 at 03:35 PM
wala ba nagbebenta dyan ng at least rxv450  ???
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ASuL on Jun 27, 2005 at 04:06 PM
would the rxv 350 be enough to a diamond 9.2?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Jun 27, 2005 at 04:41 PM
would the rxv 350 be enough to a diamond 9.2?

i say yes. go and have a listen. you may find them good enough for your current needs ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ASuL on Jun 29, 2005 at 04:07 PM
does the rvx 450 have an on-screen menu and fm tuner? 

tska kaya component video switching?  if no, what model meron nito?

tska how running rate ng 2nd hand rxv 650

thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: pilyo on Jul 02, 2005 at 05:53 PM
no osd on the 450, but it has an fm/am tuner.  not sure if you need to step up to the 650 or 750 to get osd, but the 550 doesn't have it either.

450 also does component video switching, but NOT up/downconversion.

as for the 2nd hand going rate for a 650, it might be pretty much whatever the buyer and seller agree upon because the model is still current and there are unlikely to be many, if any, selling their units.  pero definitely dapat lower than brand new ang presyo!  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: d00dZ on Jul 04, 2005 at 11:40 AM
650 up OSD. Go up higher may GUI pa!  :o
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ASuL on Jul 04, 2005 at 11:51 AM
tenks for the inputs very helpful...


yup wala nga ODS yung 450 and 550...650 up na yung meron  ;D


electronics depot sells the 650 at 18.5k
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: watson's box on Jul 13, 2005 at 02:23 PM
Hi,

im just new here and the 650 interest's me so much as opposed to my other choice, the sr 4500 of marantz. I've read about the 650's features where you can mount 9 speakers, 2 being in front for (effects or ambiance?)? what's this all about since this receiver is only 7.1.. need a little enlightenment... thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jul 13, 2005 at 02:56 PM
Hi,

im just new here and the 650 interest's me so much as opposed to my other choice, the sr 4500 of marantz. I've read about the 650's features where you can mount 9 speakers, 2 being in front for (effects or ambiance?)? what's this all about since this receiver is only 7.1.. need a little enlightenment... thanks!

There are 2 extra speaker outlets. You can opt to move the amplification of your 6th & 7th channel to power the 2 front "presence" channels for front ambience. Unless you plan to really buy 9 speakers for this purpose, its not really a big deal. I dont even use my presence channels at all.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ASuL on Jul 13, 2005 at 06:13 PM
saan po ang service center ng yamaha?

what are the requirements to avail of the warranty just in case magka-problema ang unit?

-warranty card?
-OR from the shop that sold you the receiver?

thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: watson's box on Jul 13, 2005 at 06:46 PM
There are 2 extra speaker outlets. You can opt to move the amplification of your 6th & 7th channel to power the 2 front "presence" channels for front ambience. Unless you plan to really buy 9 speakers for this purpose, its not really a big deal. I dont even use my presence channels at all.

So does it mean that you really cannot use all 9 speakers connected to the receiver if by any chance you have them all connected? sayang, akala ko naman sort of a 9 channel receiver na ito... but its features are still impressive.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: watson's box on Jul 14, 2005 at 11:17 AM
How much na pala ung 650 at 750? and what store sells them? preferable in the makati area...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jul 14, 2005 at 11:28 AM
So does it mean that you really cannot use all 9 speakers connected to the receiver if by any chance you have them all connected? sayang, akala ko naman sort of a 9 channel receiver na ito... but its features are still impressive.  :)

The Yamaha flagship receivers (Z1, Z2, Z9) can do all 9 channels simultaneously, but with less power for the 2 additional channels (40-60w).

The problem is, they cost like 90k to 200+k ;D

750 is almost 20k while 650 is around 18k as of what I read from other threads.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: watson's box on Jul 14, 2005 at 12:26 PM
almost 20k nalang ung 750?! akala ko ung 650 p19,800?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jsllobrera on Jul 15, 2005 at 10:20 AM
May tanong lang ako. Ano ba talaga ang timbang ng 750? 12.5kg ba o 15.5? kasi ayon sa website ng yamaha japan, UK at australia at sa avland, ang weight nya ay 12.5kg pero sa YAMAHA USA ay 15.5kg naman at ano ba talaga ang totoo?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 15, 2005 at 10:26 AM
May tanong lang ako. Ano ba talaga ang timbang ng 750? 12.5kg ba o 15.5? kasi ayon sa website ng yamaha japan, UK at australia at sa avland, ang weight nya ay 12.5kg pero sa YAMAHA USA ay 15.5kg naman at ano ba talaga ang totoo?

Sa US 110V, Europe and Asia 230V. Baka dun nagkatalo ???
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: watson's box on Jul 15, 2005 at 10:35 AM
i was able to scout for the prices of the 650 and the 750. my question is that: would the 750 be worth it to buy rather than the 650 for an additional cost of p1000 considering that it only has a slightly higher amplifier power (5w) and a learning remote?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jul 15, 2005 at 10:44 AM
i was able to scout for the prices of the 650 and the 750. my question is that: would the 750 be worth it to buy rather than the 650 for an additional cost of p1000 considering that it only has a slightly higher amplifier power (5w) and a learning remote?

There is also component video up conversion, which I wouldnt use anyway.

For the above quoted questions, my answer is NO, but for its titanium color, YES  ;D...I dont like gold, hehe

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 15, 2005 at 10:55 AM
i was able to scout for the prices of the 650 and the 750. my question is that: would the 750 be worth it to buy rather than the 650 for an additional cost of p1000 considering that it only has a slightly higher amplifier power (5w) and a learning remote?

Having identical weight and chassis dimensions, they basically have the same power supplies w/ the voltage rails upped a bit in the 750 for those extra 5 watts. Read audioholics.com's take (http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/audioprinciples/amplifiers/receiverpower3.php)

Like MAtZTER, Php1000 is reasonable enough for the titanium color ;D Especially if you can't stomach the gold finish for the next 2 years or more.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: watson's box on Jul 15, 2005 at 11:09 AM
Having identical weight and chassis dimensions, they basically have the same power supplies w/ the voltage rails upped a bit in the 750 for those extra 5 watts. Read audioholics.com's take (http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/audioprinciples/amplifiers/receiverpower3.php)

Like MAtZTER, Php1000 is reasonable enough for the titanium color ;D Especially if you can't stomach the gold finish for the next 2 years or more.


thanks for the info, m just thinking which is more worth to buy since almost thesame naman sila except for a few watts and aesthetics? i could still use that extra p1000 for other hometheater components...

ok ba if i add extra speakers for the presence channel?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gaol on Jul 15, 2005 at 11:14 AM
There is also component video up conversion, which I wouldnt use anyway.

For the above quoted questions, my answer is NO, but for its titanium color, YES  ;D...I dont like gold, hehe



If the price difference now is only P1000 I see no reason not to get the 750. You get 5 extra watts, a better remote, and video up-conversion of composite and s-video to component video (the 650 only upconverts compiste video to s-video), plus the titanium color. At their regular prices before, the price difference between the 650 and 750 was around P5000, and still some decided it was worth getting the 750.

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 15, 2005 at 11:21 AM
thanks for the info, m just thinking which is more worth to buy since almost thesame naman sila except for a few watts and aesthetics? i could still use that extra p1000 for other hometheater components...

ok ba if i add extra speakers for the presence channel?

You won't go far w/ that 1000 except perhaps w/ generic cables (but my guess is kulang pa rin).

I don't know anything about presence channels :-\ Maybe they'll add something to the overall experience, but, I'd go with the traditional 5, 6, 7.1 config.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: watson's box on Jul 15, 2005 at 11:43 AM
You won't go far w/ that 1000 except perhaps w/ generic cables (but my guess is kulang pa rin).

I don't know anything about presence channels :-\ Maybe they'll add something to the overall experience, but, I'd go with the traditional 5, 6, 7.1 config.

yup, of course i'd still install a 7.1 system kaso may extra pa kaseng slots for 2 speakers.. im planning pa to hook up these so called bass shakers i've read about dito din sa pinoy dvd para mas masaya yung seat kaya every budget counts! grabe, pag dumadami ung mga options mo mahirap din mag decide.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gaol on Jul 15, 2005 at 12:22 PM
yup, of course i'd still install a 7.1 system kaso may extra pa kaseng slots for 2 speakers.. im planning pa to hook up these so called bass shakers i've read about dito din sa pinoy dvd para mas masaya yung seat kaya every budget counts! grabe, pag dumadami ung mga options mo mahirap din mag decide.  ;)


Just take note that if you set up rear surround for 7.1, you won't be able to use the presence channels. It's either one or the other, since the 650 and 750 have only 7 power amps. The real high end yammys have 9 power amps to power a 7.1 setp PLUS the presence channels.

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Jul 16, 2005 at 01:18 PM
You know guys, this is just a theory that I haven't tried out to see if it's true 'coz I never had the time pa, but, since the 650/750 has 7 channels, do you think it would be possible to set it up to a 9 ch system by getting a 2 ch amp and connecting it to the SBR and SBL output of the 650/750 and set the 650/750's amps to presence? The question would be if the 7ch output on the rear of the 650/750 changes with the settings. I should really try this soon. ;D
Title: YAMAHA RXV630
Post by: Haywire on Jul 17, 2005 at 01:32 PM
Newbie here  ??? How much po ba yamaha RXV630? lagi ko kasi sya nababasa dito, ano po kaya model ng yamaha or harman kardon na pasok sa budget ko 20K which is better yamaha or harman kardon receiver?

Tnx n' advance
ALiKaBoK  O0
Title: Re: YAMAHA RXV630
Post by: aHobbit on Jul 17, 2005 at 04:44 PM
pls declare your budget . . .

. . . on speakers  ;D

the choice is dependent on what speakers you will be using.

better in the audio world is a highly relative word - beware!  ::)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jul 18, 2005 at 10:47 AM
You know guys, this is just a theory that I haven't tried out to see if it's true 'coz I never had the time pa, but, since the 650/750 has 7 channels, do you think it would be possible to set it up to a 9 ch system by getting a 2 ch amp and connecting it to the SBR and SBL output of the 650/750 and set the 650/750's amps to presence? The question would be if the 7ch output on the rear of the 650/750 changes with the settings. I should really try this soon. ;D

That sounds cool, let us know if it works.
Title: Re: YAMAHA RXV630
Post by: m0b1u5 on Jul 18, 2005 at 12:45 PM
Newbie here  ??? How much po ba yamaha RXV630? lagi ko kasi sya nababasa dito, ano po kaya model ng yamaha or harman kardon na pasok sa budget ko 20K which is better yamaha or harman kardon receiver?

Tnx n' advance
ALiKaBoK  O0
sir medyo old model na yata yung yamaha mo... x50 na yung mga latest and swack sa budget mo...

regards
Title: Re: YAMAHA RXV630
Post by: Haywire on Jul 18, 2005 at 01:19 PM
tnx for the reply ok ba X50? magbubuo palang kasi ako unahin ko lang receiver?which receiver would you recomend for movie?

tnx
alikabok  O0
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ASuL on Jul 19, 2005 at 12:50 PM
ok lang ba ipatong yung dvd player on top of the receiver...

2 layers lang kasi yung tv rack...parang ayaw ko naman on top of the tv yung center channel
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jul 19, 2005 at 02:12 PM
ok lang ba ipatong yung dvd player on top of the receiver...

2 layers lang kasi yung tv rack...parang ayaw ko naman on top of the tv yung center channel

Give it some air space. put something in between that would support the player, but wont block the AVR vents. I put my dvd player styro in between the AVR & DVD player. I also put a tiny fan for the AVR.

I have a AV rack ready but I just dont have the space for it at my present location. Hopefully I could move to our new place by end of the month.

My crowded temporary setup for now:

Pioneer DVD player
on
Giec DVD player
on
Styro & fan - connected to AVR plug
on
Yammy 650
on table
with Velodyne 10"subwoofer below the table.

(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid178/p4261a6002d2b1faae1d581bffa88c7bf/f33297d3.jpg)

No vibration issues so far.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ASuL on Jul 19, 2005 at 02:40 PM
ok...

hmmm...the avr is about 6.75 inches tall.  if i allocate 8.5 inches for the receiever layer...so thats mga 2 inches space / clearance on top...ok na ba yun? sa side wala problema as much as 5 inches of air space on both sides.  sa back open din...

which leads me to my next question...side or top ang vents ng yamaha?  but of course we also know that hot air goes up  ;D

thanks...im designing my tv rack kasi and working on very limited space
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 19, 2005 at 08:22 PM
You know guys, this is just a theory that I haven't tried out to see if it's true 'coz I never had the time pa, but, since the 650/750 has 7 channels, do you think it would be possible to set it up to a 9 ch system by getting a 2 ch amp and connecting it to the SBR and SBL output of the 650/750 and set the 650/750's amps to presence? The question would be if the 7ch output on the rear of the 650/750 changes with the settings. I should really try this soon. ;D

According to audioholics.com's review of the rx-v2500, the rx-v2500 allows either presence or surround back channels, not both. Maybe this also true for the 650 :-\ :-[
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: watson's box on Jul 20, 2005 at 10:36 AM
ey,

anyone with a yamaha who has an experience installing a bass shaker to their system? how do you go about it? i've read about it in another thread here and tried it sa showroom sa daichi..can't you connect it directly to your yammies? do you really need an extra amp?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Jul 20, 2005 at 12:04 PM
According to audioholics.com's review of the rx-v2500, the rx-v2500 allows either presence or surround back channels, not both. Maybe this also true for the 650 :-\ :-[

Definitely. That's why we desire to have all nine channels operate at the same time, that's why most 650/750 owners are proposing to use an external 2 ch amp via the 8 channel output at the back. If the Surround Back left and right pre out at the rear of the amp aren't variable pre outs, then this is possible. Though I myself haven't tried it yet.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackryan on Jul 20, 2005 at 01:01 PM
ey,

anyone with a yamaha who has an experience installing a bass shaker to their system? how do you go about it? i've read about it in another thread here and tried it sa showroom sa daichi..can't you connect it directly to your yammies? do you really need an extra amp?

use the sub line-out and connect this to a Y splitter to RCA connector for input to your external amp and then put L + R separately to your bass shakers.

Enjoy !!!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: watson's box on Jul 20, 2005 at 01:11 PM
use the sub line-out and connect this to a Y splitter to RCA connector for input to your external amp and then put L + R separately to your bass shakers.

Enjoy !!!

okie, panu if i also want my sub to work?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackryan on Jul 20, 2005 at 01:17 PM
okie, panu if i also want my sub to work?

use another Y-splitter (one RCA and then goes to two RCA) from your favorite audio-visual store.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Jul 20, 2005 at 01:18 PM
Some subs have an L and R  line out.  You can use that to daisy chain or connect to another sub or to your bass shaker amp.  If none, then the suggestions above should work.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kuyarubs on Jul 21, 2005 at 09:55 AM
i have a splitter (male/2female)  - male end connected to sub out of yamaha rx v750. one line connected to the female rca goes to another splitter (female/2 male) which is connected to right/left input of sub. the other line connected to the other female rca goes to another splitter (female/2male) which is connected to aux right/left input of a 40 watt stereo receiver. bass shaker is connected and powered through the speaker right/left output of the second receiver.  i am also able to control the amount of shake through the volume control of the second receiver. hope this helps.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: greg on Jul 21, 2005 at 01:44 PM
Guys if you take a look at yamaha's website, they now have a new set of receivers being offered (http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/products/receiver.html). 7 series???

I think the specs are pretty much the same but the mid-models are now available in aluminum front panels in titanium finish!!! :o

I'd definitely like to see and hear one soon!! i really love these yamaha receivers!! ;) 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: watson's box on Jul 22, 2005 at 07:51 AM
Guys if you take a look at yamaha's website, they now have a new set of receivers being offered (http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/products/receiver.html). 7 series???

I think the specs are pretty much the same but the mid-models are now available in aluminum front panels in titanium finish!!! :o

I'd definitely like to see and hear one soon!! i really love these yamaha receivers!! ;) 

yup, saw the receivers din, they look nice but do you think its worth it to buy since halos the same naman ung features nya with the older models considering na bumaba na ung prices ng 750 at 650?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Lawin on Jul 22, 2005 at 08:38 AM
To fellow Yamaha Owners ... question lang po

I'm a bit confused with the sub-woofer settings of the RXV750 (with all Euros8 Speaker & Sub ). If I set to BOTH the sub-woofer out, the unit will have a deeper sounding bass output on the front & sub although sometimes muddy. MP3 or two channel sources is ok but I hear the muddiness in 5.1. If i set it to SFWR only, there will be no output in the sub for 2 channel sources. If I set it to FRONT only, parang kulang naman sa BASS, I got the impression kc na ang Euros8 Tower can do without a sub.

Appreciate if you can advise if this is normal and what is the best setting? Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 22, 2005 at 08:43 AM
yup, saw the receivers din, they look nice but do you think its worth it to buy since halos the same naman ung features nya with the older models considering na bumaba na ung prices ng 750 at 650?

If I already have a 650 or 750, I would upgrade to a higher model else I'd be moving sideways. The most notable difference between the x50 and x57 models is the XM radio support, w/c, AFAIK, is not yet available in the this forsaken country of ours.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Jul 22, 2005 at 12:02 PM
To fellow Yamaha Owners ... question lang po

I'm a bit confused with the sub-woofer settings of the RXV750 (with all Euros8 Speaker & Sub ). If I set to BOTH the sub-woofer out, the unit will have a deeper sounding bass output on the front & sub although sometimes muddy. MP3 or two channel sources is ok but I hear the muddiness in 5.1. If i set it to SFWR only, there will be no output in the sub for 2 channel sources. If I set it to FRONT only, parang kulang naman sa BASS, I got the impression kc na ang Euros8 Tower can do without a sub.

Appreciate if you can advise if this is normal and what is the best setting? Thanks in advance.

in 2-channel, your muddiness maybe caused by eny or both of the ff:
(1) wrong cross-over cut-off in the subw unit. The euros8 is bass capable, so try to tune your subw by adjusting volume and crossover point to a cut-off freq and vol that will not overlap with the euros8
(2) bad orientation of subw unit. placement is dependent on ones listening room. problem that can occur here are cancellations of signals. thus, experimentation on polarity (normal or reverse) as well as various positioning of the subw should be done to hit the optimum sonic balance.

in 5.1
(1) check out whether your center and rears are set to Large, and if these speakers are bass capable as well to the range of about 60hz down. if stt as large and the speaker is capable of reproducing say 50hz below can make unpredictable bass performane. More so if your surround is place in corners where even low bass can be reinforced by the listening area. the center is less of a problem if it mount on top of TV and away from walls.
(2) again, the volume of subw and cross over points can also be culprit here as HT materials are quite exaggeratd in the bass freq.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Lawin on Jul 22, 2005 at 04:32 PM
Thanks, aHobbit ... I will try your suggestion although mahihirapan ako na irelocate yung sub because of the rooms configuration.

When I tried using the YPAO automatic setting,  sub volume is at 11 o'clock, sub crossover at 5 o'clock and normal phase. The YPAO will set the receivers sub volume -9dB, crossover at 160,  but parang bitin nga sa deep bass.

When using YPAO, will it automatically set the speaker size to large or small and if LFE out to SFWR only or both?
Currently, all speakers are set to LARGE and LFE out to BOTH and crossover at 120. Dahil parang bitin sa volume ng bass I set the receivers sub volume to -4db. Yun nga lang kung minsan Muddy tunog specially on some concert DVD's like Chicago, Sting, etc...

are my crossover settings "normal" or what will be the best setting?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: greg on Jul 22, 2005 at 05:35 PM
yup, saw the receivers din, they look nice but do you think its worth it to buy since halos the same naman ung features nya with the older models considering na bumaba na ung prices ng 750 at 650?

bro if i were to buy a brand new yamaha receiver, i'd get the rx-v750!!! Though it will soon be considered as an old model, it will definitely be at par with the new ones in terms of performance and looks!! :D But then again if i have extra bucks, i might as well spoil myself with the newer models hahahaha but i dont have the extra buck right now :(

In fact, I'm currently selling my rx-v350 to upgrade to the 750. It's the 750 or no upgrade at all for me since i dont think i would feel/hear/see the difference if just switch to a 450/550/650 since they have the same look plus their differences in wattage is not that remarkable, except for the increasing DSP options per model. But im not much of a DSP lover, i'd rather go for DD or DTS :)

Actually i also find it weird why the 350 has a higher rms rating per channel compared to the 450. hehehe

The last reason im inclined in getting the 750 is that i dont want to go from 5.1 to 6.1 to 7.1 na!! I'd rather grab the opportunity (if given) in owning a 7.1 system!! :)

So if you guys see a bargain 750, kindly do inform me. ;) ofcourse i have to sell my present receiver muna (which i'm very happy with but the 750 is just too tempting)  >:D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Jul 22, 2005 at 06:59 PM
When I tried using the YPAO automatic setting,  sub volume is at 11 o'clock, sub crossover at 5 o'clock and normal phase. The YPAO will set the receivers sub volume -9dB, crossover at 160,  but parang bitin nga sa deep bass.

When using YPAO, will it automatically set the speaker size to large or small and if LFE out to SFWR only or both?
Currently, all speakers are set to LARGE and LFE out to BOTH and crossover at 120. Dahil parang bitin sa volume ng bass I set the receivers sub volume to -4db. Yun nga lang kung minsan Muddy tunog specially on some concert DVD's like Chicago, Sting, etc...

are my crossover settings "normal" or what will be the best setting?


Your Ypao will just read what is happening to the room. It reads exaggerated BASS info from the room (probably because of overemphasis on the upper bass - about 60-120hz - muddiness - which to YPAO, because of 120Hz crossover setting, is still considered the BASS info). The overemphasis is due to the fact that both your euros8 and the sub reproduced 60-120Hz. The result is that it levels the subwfr bass volume  -9dB (cause somebody else also does the reproduction of the upper bass), lower than the front normal volume. Bitin ka sa deep bass (which I assume about 40Hz and lower) - But the YPAO just sums the highest level it heard from the room regardless whether it is 20Hz or 120Hz or between - because as far as it is concerned, it is still the defined bass based on the cross over point set.

Ypao will not automatically put off or on a subwoofer.

Get the freq response of a euros8 from the spec sheet - probably it is 40hz and up. So start at 40hz cross-over and have YPAO reconfigure itself and check, and repeat adjusting upward little by little the cross over points, listening to the material causing muddiness of bass, until you heard what you want. listen at low levels only so will not feel dizzy hearing too many bad bass  ;D.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: boomjam on Jul 23, 2005 at 01:05 AM
bro if i were to buy a brand new yamaha receiver, i'd get the rx-v750!!! Though it will soon be considered as an old model, it will definitely be at par with the new ones in terms of performance and looks!! :D But then again if i have extra bucks, i might as well spoil myself with the newer models hahahaha but i dont have the extra buck right now :(

In fact, I'm currently selling my rx-v350 to upgrade to the 750. It's the 750 or no upgrade at all for me since i dont think i would feel/hear/see the difference if just switch to a 450/550/650 since they have the same look plus their differences in wattage is not that remarkable, except for the increasing DSP options per model. But im not much of a DSP lover, i'd rather go for DD or DTS :)

Actually i also find it weird why the 350 has a higher rms rating per channel compared to the 450. hehehe

The last reason im inclined in getting the 750 is that i dont want to go from 5.1 to 6.1 to 7.1 na!! I'd rather grab the opportunity (if given) in owning a 7.1 system!! :)

So if you guys see a bargain 750, kindly do inform me. ;) ofcourse i have to sell my present receiver muna (which i'm very happy with but the 750 is just too tempting)  >:D

Bought my 750 in shangrila - ambassador for P19.5k.  Grab it while stocks lasts.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Lawin on Jul 23, 2005 at 10:55 AM
Thanks once again aHobbit, your explanation enlightened me. Will experiment/adjust again ... hope I get it right  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: greg on Jul 23, 2005 at 12:04 PM
Bought my 750 in shangrila - ambassador for P19.5k.  Grab it while stocks lasts.

hey thanks! kamusta perfermance of your 750? im sure you got your money's worth with a yamaha!! :) btw, i sent you a pm bro!!

now im really selling na my 350 hehehehe..... baka may interested sainyo hehehhe   ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: daigoro on Jul 23, 2005 at 12:49 PM
a bad stroke of luck, i only bought my rv650 2 months ago for P19k at ambassador and now the rv750 is the same price.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: boomjam on Jul 24, 2005 at 01:31 AM
hey thanks! kamusta perfermance of your 750? im sure you got your money's worth with a yamaha!! :) btw, i sent you a pm bro!!

now im really selling na my 350 hehehehe..... baka may interested sainyo hehehhe   ;D
Ganda tlga ng rx-v750.  Well worth the money spent on them ksi medyo future-proof ka na coz it is a 7.1 receiver.  Altho medyo complex pa rin kasi I haven't gone through most of the features yet.  Poging-pogi lang tlga coz of the titanium face. Classy ang dating.

I think ambassador is offering the unit with a 6-month term pag citi, HSBC, or equi visa.  Di ko alam kung 0%. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackryan on Jul 24, 2005 at 08:40 AM
Ganda tlga ng rx-v750.  Well worth the money spent on them ksi medyo future-proof ka na coz it is a 7.1 receiver.  Altho medyo complex pa rin kasi I haven't gone through most of the features yet.  Poging-pogi lang tlga coz of the titanium face. Classy ang dating.

I think ambassador is offering the unit with a 6-month term pag citi, HSBC, or equi visa.  Di ko alam kung 0%. 

Coming from another RX-V750 user like myself, this model is really "sulit". In fact, I got it earlier also because of the titanium finish looks and also a host of other features. I am sure you guys should take advantage now that the price on this model will surely further go down to affordable levels.  ::)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Jul 24, 2005 at 09:47 AM
Quote
..medyo future-proof ka na coz it is a 7.1 receiver...

Future proofing using 7.1 amp implementation used by Yamaha 10 years ago pa?   
 
Title: Re: Yamaha 450 and Star Wars DD EX
Post by: gaol on Jul 25, 2005 at 09:01 AM
It's not the yammy 450 that's the problem but the Star Wars 1 and 2 disks. Apparently they don't have the code or signal that automatically tells a receiver that they are DD EX (possibly because they were among the first DD EX disks and the format standard wasn't completely finalized that time). I think there was a discussion a while back regarding this in the yamaha receiver thread.







Title: Yamaha RX-V450 can't detect DD EX
Post by: upinsmoke on Jul 25, 2005 at 04:29 PM
I just can't figure this out.  My Yamaha RX-V450 can't auto detect DVD titles with DD EX.  I've tried Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, and A.I..  All 3 of them have "DD 5.1 EX" option on their language menu but when I turn that on and play the movie, the 450 doesn't turn on the EX automatically, I had to manually turn it on.

Firewired's Matrix Reloaded review says it supports DD EX but when I plug it in, the 450 won't go to DD EX mode.  Perfect Storm and Minority Report, both of these are supposed to have DD EX support, but the 450 doesn't recognize it either.

When I plugged in my R1 LOTR EE, it auto detect the 6.1 mode.

Have any you had your Yamaha 450 successfully auto detect any DD EX R3 DVDs yet?
Title: Re: Yamaha RX-V450 can't detect DD EX
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 25, 2005 at 04:44 PM
Most probably due to how the sound tracks are encoded. There may be missing flags so your 450 just do DD5.1. You can always manually select DD EX.
Title: Re: Yamaha RX-V450 can't detect DD EX
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 25, 2005 at 08:11 PM
Question, aren't all R3's encoded in 5.1? ???
Title: Re: Yamaha RX-V450 can't detect DD EX
Post by: firewired on Jul 25, 2005 at 08:58 PM
Mostly 5.1 but you still have the occasional Dolby Surround release, especially if it's an unrestored classic or older TV shows.

@upinsmoke The RX-V450 is a 6.1 channel receiver but I'm guessing it only decodes EX automatically if you have a 6.1 or 7.1 setup. Otherwise, it defaults to plain DD 5.1. for DVDs. You can force it to use the EX setting but unless you have Center Back or Left Back/Right Back speakers, you won't realize the benefits of the matrixed rear channel(s).

I could never understand why certain DVD releases list DD 5.1 EX as a specific audio feature and others don't. Marketing hype? From what I've read, all films that use Dolby Digital Surround EX for cinemas are also EX encoded on DVD by default.

Here's the entry from the Crutchfield Advisor re THX Surround EX and Dolby Digital EX:

"These playback formats are a collaboration between THX and Dolby Labs designed to give surround sound improved directionality. They do essentially the same exact thing, both adding another one or two "back surround" speakers to the speakers already present in a 5.1-channel system in order to provide a more fully 360° wraparound experience. The added channels, rather than being discrete, simply share a matrixed channel of sound composed of information from the regular surround channels.

Currently, many newer DVDs are encoded for Dolby Digital EX, and have that extra channel of surround information ready to go. Also, if you're playing a regular Dolby Digital 5.1-channel DVD, the Dolby Digital EX decoder will simulate 6.1 or 7.1 channel surround by processing the audio information in the regular surround channels and sending it to your back surround speaker(s)."


So there you have it. If your receiver can decode EX and you have a 6.1 or 7.1 setup, any regular 5.1 DVD will play like an EX DVD. Based on my own HT setup, my Denon 1803 uses EX decoding for practically every disc I play that comes with a 5.1 track. If I turn off the rear speakers though (using a button on the front panel), the receiver automatically stops decoding EX.
Title: Re: Yamaha RX-V450 can't detect DD EX
Post by: edboy7 on Jul 26, 2005 at 02:54 PM
I just can't figure this out.  My Yamaha RX-V450 can't auto detect DVD titles with DD EX.  I've tried Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, and A.I..  All 3 of them have "DD 5.1 EX" option on their language menu but when I turn that on and play the movie, the 450 doesn't turn on the EX automatically, I had to manually turn it on.

Firewired's Matrix Reloaded review says it supports DD EX but when I plug it in, the 450 won't go to DD EX mode.  Perfect Storm and Minority Report, both of these are supposed to have DD EX support, but the 450 doesn't recognize it either.

When I plugged in my R1 LOTR EE, it auto detect the 6.1 mode.

Have any you had your Yamaha 450 successfully auto detect any DD EX R3 DVDs yet?
same experience here, with Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones(but mine is a Marantz), maybe  and just maybe a DDEX flag would lit on a THXcertified  reciever...and thats only for starwarsdvd...sa esep esep ko lang po :) and i maybe wrong too....my understanding is....when it says DDex, the center sorround is present you just need to decode it :)...regardlesss of any region.....5.1 is still 5.1 even on DDex mode ...what you are hearing is just  a virtual centerback  signal derived from the  left and right sorround channels :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gaol on Jul 26, 2005 at 05:13 PM
I was also initially bothered by the fact that Star Wars I and II did not have the DD-EX flag to automatically set my rx-v650. But now, what I do for my rx-v650 is just to use DPL2x for almost all dvds that I watch, regardless of whether the dvd is plain vanila DD5.1, or DD-EX (and actually DTS formats also), to maximize the use of the rear surround speakers. Dolby Labs themselves recommend using DPL2x for 6.1 and 7.1 setups, even for DD-EX. It would be nice, though, if I could set my yammy to default to this, instead of manually setting DPL2x everytime--but it's just a minor peeve and doesn't get in the way of my enjoyment once the movie gets going.

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: d00dZ on Jul 27, 2005 at 03:05 PM
I was also initially bothered by the fact that Star Wars I and II did not have the DD-EX flag to automatically set my rx-v650. But now, what I do for my rx-v650 is just to use DPL2x for almost all dvds that I watch, regardless of whether the dvd is plain vanila DD5.1, or DD-EX (and actually DTS formats also), to maximize the use of the rear surround speakers. Dolby Labs themselves recommend using DPL2x for 6.1 and 7.1 setups, even for DD-EX. It would be nice, though, if I could set my yammy to default to this, instead of manually setting DPL2x everytime--but it's just a minor peeve and doesn't get in the way of my enjoyment once the movie gets going.



I've been consistently using DPL2x since the topic came up in this thread ages ago that it yields the best results for 7-channel audio. Kaso nga lang I've noticed that using it on DTS sources somewhat degrades the DTS' audio quality. So when I choose the DTS soundtrack, ES Matrix na lang gamit ko. To each his own baga. I don't know, may be it's just my ears.  :D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Lawin on Jul 28, 2005 at 03:17 PM
in 2-channel, your muddiness maybe caused by eny or both of the ff:
(1) wrong cross-over cut-off in the subw unit. The euros8 is bass capable, so try to tune your subw by adjusting volume and crossover point to a cut-off freq and vol that will not overlap with the euros8
(2) bad orientation of subw unit. placement is dependent on ones listening room. problem that can occur here are cancellations of signals. thus, experimentation on polarity (normal or reverse) as well as various positioning of the subw should be done to hit the optimum sonic balance.

in 5.1
(1) check out whether your center and rears are set to Large, and if these speakers are bass capable as well to the range of about 60hz down. if stt as large and the speaker is capable of reproducing say 50hz below can make unpredictable bass performane. More so if your surround is place in corners where even low bass can be reinforced by the listening area. the center is less of a problem if it mount on top of TV and away from walls.
(2) again, the volume of subw and cross over points can also be culprit here as HT materials are quite exaggeratd in the bass freq.

Hi aHobbit!

I tried the above suggestions last weekend, unfortunately the Euro8 SubWoofer got damaged when I was testing it.  :'(

I brought the sub at Daiichi for repair and got it back the same day as they facilitated repair ( thanks for the assistance of Helen from the service center). Test and adjusted  it again last night as above, now the bass are tighter and much better !  :D

The tech said that the voice coil was defective thus they replaced it with a new driver with higher rating ( I guess that's why it sounded much better).

Thanks for the help again ... ( although, I still have the itch to tweak it again or experiment with various settings in the Yamaha)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 01, 2005 at 09:19 AM
Does anyone know how to turn off the display on the Yamaha 450?  The receiver is positioned under the TV.  With all the lights turned off, I don't like the lights coming out of the display screen.  There's just no purpose for it.  Right now I'm covering it up with paper.

I think you can adjust the brightness of the display in one of the menus
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers -RXV800
Post by: abj104 on Aug 06, 2005 at 10:27 AM
Sir's,
Just would like to ask help from you because I'm having problem with my YAMAHA RXV-800 bought 2 yrs ago.

Background:
I begun to noticed and experienced this problem last Thursday, at Home after coming from work I switch on my receiver (to watch action movie"XXX" DVD that I just bought)but when 
1.I tried to sw on the "EFFECT" mode, the receiver just shuts off
2.I switch on the POWER button again the displays shows "CHK SPKR WIRES" and will be back to normal display "EFFECT OFF" after 2 secs.
3.After trials of the same steps and with whatever button on the receiver panel that I touch, the receiver just shuts off. Changing the Input from one another -CD to PHONO etc. will make the receiver shut off also.
5. I disconnected/connected all wires attached at the back of the receiver.
6.After performing the #2,I set it to CD input to listen to audio cd's.The Receiver shuts off.
7.Sw power "ON" again (now I'm on CD mode),play the audio cd and the receiver works and shuts off only if I touch any SW button  on the panel.Done this steps for many times.
8.I noticed that after listening for 20 mins straight( stop na ko sa pag pindot ng kung anong buttons) to listen to music at least,
9.But when I started again touching buttons the problem was gone and  the receiver works normal.Hindi ko alam kung bakit?

Yesterday ,I also have encountered the same 9 items with my Receiver.Kagabi,after na gamitin ko uli nagpalipas ako ng mga 30 mins to 1hr na off ang receiver  and check if this will happen again pero nangyayari pa rin. This 6:30 am I have experienced the same.Para tuloy de tubo yung amplifier ko kailangan muna painitin bago mag work ng normal.
I just thought kung my problema spkr wires bakit ko nagagamit at napanuod ko pa yung DVD?

I hope somebody could help me before I send this for repair.(Gastos na naman!!)

Thanks a lot !
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers -RXV800
Post by: jackryan on Aug 06, 2005 at 11:04 AM
CHK SPKR WIRES"

I presume potential short-circuit in one of your speaker wires ???

-jackryan 8)



Sir's,
Just would like to ask help from you because I'm having problem with my YAMAHA RXV-800 bought 2 yrs ago.

Background:
I begun to noticed and experienced this problem last Thursday, at Home after coming from work I switch on my receiver (to watch action movie"XXX" DVD that I just bought)but when 
1.I tried to sw on the "EFFECT" mode, the receiver just shuts off
2.I switch on the POWER button again the displays shows "CHK SPKR WIRES" and will be back to normal display "EFFECT OFF" after 2 secs.
3.After trials of the same steps and with whatever button on the receiver panel that I touch, the receiver just shuts off. Changing the Input from one another -CD to PHONO etc. will make the receiver shut off also.
5. I disconnected/connected all wires attached at the back of the receiver.
6.After performing the #2,I set it to CD input to listen to audio cd's.The Receiver shuts off.
7.Sw power "ON" again (now I'm on CD mode),play the audio cd and the receiver works and shuts off only if I touch any SW button  on the panel.Done this steps for many times.
8.I noticed that after listening for 20 mins straight( stop na ko sa pag pindot ng kung anong buttons) to listen to music at least,
9.But when I started again touching buttons the problem was gone and  the receiver works normal.Hindi ko alam kung bakit?

Yesterday ,I also have encountered the same 9 items with my Receiver.Kagabi,after na gamitin ko uli nagpalipas ako ng mga 30 mins to 1hr na off ang receiver  and check if this will happen again pero nangyayari pa rin. This 6:30 am I have experienced the same.Para tuloy de tubo yung amplifier ko kailangan muna painitin bago mag work ng normal.
I just thought kung my problema spkr wires bakit ko nagagamit at napanuod ko pa yung DVD?

I hope somebody could help me before I send this for repair.(Gastos na naman!!)

Thanks a lot !

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: abj104 on Aug 06, 2005 at 11:38 AM
Sir jack,
kahit ano po bang mag short circuit sa amp "chk spkr wires" ba ang lalabas sa display?
my cables are new and ilang beses ko na syang tinanggal sa amp back panel ,pinagpalit ko na rin yung fr and rr spkr wires ko...sinubukan ko rin luwagan at higpitan yung mga binding post at rca sa spktr wires kung baga re setting ang ginawa ko sa lahat ng wire spkrs.Still the same...thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: audioworld on Aug 06, 2005 at 11:41 AM
You can call us at 732-7716/742-6843
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackryan on Aug 06, 2005 at 12:02 PM
Sir jack,
kahit ano po bang mag short circuit sa amp "chk spkr wires" ba ang lalabas sa display?
my cables are new and ilang beses ko na syang tinanggal sa amp back panel ,pinagpalit ko na rin yung fr and rr spkr wires ko...sinubukan ko rin luwagan at higpitan yung mga binding post at rca sa spktr wires kung baga re setting ang ginawa ko sa lahat ng wire spkrs.Still the same...thanks!

I think you may need to contact Audioworld (see info provided above)...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: watson's box on Aug 06, 2005 at 12:09 PM
Question lang: im planning to use my old kenwood surrounds for the presence channel in the 650 (paried with diamond 9's)... ok lang ba un?

the kenwood surrounds are 8 ohms at 45 watts.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: abj104 on Aug 06, 2005 at 01:19 PM
Audioworld,
Thanks  for the advise.
I'll try to find the repair date and will call you about the serial# of the RXV800.
It's really good we have this site at PinoyDVD that could at least give initial answer to these kind of questions.

Thanks!

Sir Jackryan,
thanks likewise...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: abj104 on Aug 08, 2005 at 08:21 AM
audioworld,
rxv800 shutting off:
i'm using b&w for my fronts before but since my 8.1 wharfs was just sitting sa tabi tabi (sold my center spkr -wharf din)naisipan ko sya gamitin muna and replace my front na b&w.I have never experience the shutting off issue during my B&W's.But I only started to notice the problem after using my wharfs (as fronts) for already 4 days.

I have never touched the setting of the speaker at the back panel(it is always set to the RH).

(A)at the left:it says

Main A or B 4 ohms MIN/speaker
        A+B  8 ohms MIN/speaker
Center  6 ohms MIN/speaker
Rear 6 ohms MIN/speaker

(B)at the right: it says

Main A or B 8 ohms MIN/speaker
        A+B  16 ohms MIN/speaker
Center  8 ohms MIN/speaker
Rear 8 ohms MIN/speaker

QUESTIONS:

1.with thr RH(B) setting at the back panel,OK lang ba na ang front mo ay Bnw and Wharfs ang rear?(and center)?
2.OK din lang ba mag B(left setting),but the front says 4 ohms MIN.?(since wharfs are 6 ohms)
3.w/c is the right setting between the two?


wharfs 8.1 was at 6 ohms, mayroon kayang kinalaman yung wharf duon sa shutting of issue.Now i'm using back again my B&W as my fronts pero nag shut off pa rin.But i have discovered na pag ka power ON, palipas lang ako ng 30secs to 1 min bago ako mag touch ng any buttons sa front panel,with that di nag shu-shut off ang receiver.

But still di okey ang ganun.

For those who's matching their yamaha sa wharfs wala ba kayong ganitong issue?


I also would like(requesting) to hear from you guys,thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: audioworld on Aug 08, 2005 at 10:30 AM
Good day,

Regarding your question, B&W and wharf combination doesn’t cause your receiver to shut-off. Don’t change the impedance settings at the back of your receiver. Yamaha has a protection circuit and there are 3 possible things to look at when you experience this problem, shorted wiring, defective spkr especially at high volume, and fluctuation on ac line. Try to isolate this 3, if the problem still occurs you can bring your unit to us for diagnosis.

Cheers,
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jowi on Aug 10, 2005 at 07:44 PM
guys help in this.. thanks. any comment?

http://www.shopping.com/xPF-Yamaha_RX_V540

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Aug 11, 2005 at 10:07 AM

2.OK din lang ba mag B(left setting),but the front says 4 ohms MIN.?(since wharfs are 6 ohms)


I think this is where you're a bit confused right now. '4 Ohms MINIMUM' means that you CAN"T attach a speaker sysytem that has an impedance below or less than 4 Ohms like 2 Ohms or 3 Ohms. Since 6 Ohms yung Wharfes mo, this couldn't be the problem since 6 Ohms is higher than 4 Ohms. The same is true if your amp says 8 Ohms Minimum which means di pwede and 4 Ohms or 6 Ohms, only 8 Ohms or higher like maybe 16 Ohms. I hope helped enlighten you on that part.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 11, 2005 at 11:08 AM
Bro Art, have you tried the separate amplifier for the 9.1 presence channel  setup yet?

I just read in audioholics.com that the new RXV4600  (http://www.audioholics.com/productreviews/avhardware/YamahaRX-V4600HTp1.php) receiver cannot do this. I dont feel confident that our 650-750 can do this if a US$1800 receiver cannot.  :(
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Aug 12, 2005 at 02:45 PM
Bro Art, have you tried the separate amplifier for the 9.1 presence channel  setup yet?

I just read in audioholics.com that the new RXV4600  (http://www.audioholics.com/productreviews/avhardware/YamahaRX-V4600HTp1.php) receiver cannot do this. I dont feel confident that our 650-750 can do this if a US$1800 receiver cannot.  :(

I'm sorry bro, but I haven't found the time yet. Subukan ko this Sunday. But to partly answer your question, I am definite that we cannot attach a separate amp for the presence channels since the 650/750 don't have presence channel preouts. What I'm hoping to be our chance for a 9.1 set up is if the Surround Back Left and Right preouts at the back of the amp don't switch signals together with the amp settings. We all know that if we set the amp to PR or SB mode, 2 channels of the amp switch between these two different outputs, but if the preouts don't switch together with the settings, then this could be the solution. We possibly can supply a separate amp for the SBR and SBL and set the amp to PR. That way, all 9 channles would be amplified. I'll let you know this Monday the results of my experiment.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Aug 13, 2005 at 04:35 AM
Any RXV 2500 users here? review naman...

And also  how much is the RXV 2500? :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jomonds on Aug 13, 2005 at 07:23 AM
bro, dimple_guy0619 has one.  :)

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=38451.0


Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: abj104 on Aug 15, 2005 at 10:55 AM
sir arthurallanj,
sir so kung hindi ko nai set ung ohms setting sa likod ng panel sa bandang "left -A" w/c says MAIN 4ohms min/spkr ay posibleng dun nasira yung ampli ko dahil nga wharf w/c is 6 ohms MIN.?
thaks!
Audioworld said that this wharf will not damage the ampli kahit sa ganun setting sa likod panel ....eh para san pa yung setting sa likod?
thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Aug 15, 2005 at 11:13 AM
sir arthurallanj,
sir so kung hindi ko nai set ung ohms setting sa likod ng panel sa bandang "left -A" w/c says MAIN 4ohms min/spkr ay posibleng dun nasira yung ampli ko dahil nga wharf w/c is 6 ohms MIN.?
thaks!
Audioworld said that this wharf will not damage the ampli kahit sa ganun setting sa likod panel ....eh para san pa yung setting sa likod?
thanks!

I'm not Sir Art, but here's some info you may find useful.

Impedance Selector Switches

This so called feature, used by some manufacturers, is designed to prevent overheating of the receiver or damage to its output transistors because of excessive current flow. The manufacturer accomplishes this in one of 2 ways: 1) Stepping down rail voltage supplied to the power amp or 2) feeding half the signal strength to a voltage divider of power resistors. Both of these methods severely limit dynamics and current capability of the power amp. This results in an audible decrease in bass capability and dynamics transient sound because the 4 ohm setting effectively increases the receiver's output impedance. Unfortunately many manufacturers put these features on their products to ease customer concerns with driving low impedance loads and for safety reasons when getting UL approvals. Note: In order to meet UL requirements, a receiver cannot be rated down to 4 ohms without having this switch onboard. Receivers without this switch are usually rated down to 6 ohms. In most cases, well designed receivers can easily handle 4 ohm loads safely and efficiently. It is highly recommend to keep the impedance switch set to 8 ohms regardless of your speakers impedance and make sure your receiver has plenty of ventilation.


More here (http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/buyingguides/avhardware/receivers.php).
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 15, 2005 at 12:12 PM

Impedance Selector Switches
 is designed to prevent overheating of the receiver or damage to its output transistors because of excessive current flow. The manufacturer accomplishes this in one of 2 ways: 1) Stepping down rail voltage supplied to the power amp or 2) feeding half the signal strength to a voltage divider of power resistors. Both of these methods severely limit dynamics and current capability of the power amp. This results in an audible decrease in bass capability and dynamics transient sound because the 4 ohm setting effectively increases the receiver's output impedance.



Kaya pala! I just switched to Harman Kardon AVR630 last week, and one of the first things I noticed was the awesome bass that came out of my Mission floorstanders. It just wasnt there when I was using my Yamaha 650.

Quite cool if you are into 2 channel listening (2.0), but if you prefer using subs (2.1), doesnt really matter.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Aug 15, 2005 at 12:19 PM
Actually, merong explanation si sir AV_PHILE 1 dyan. I owe most of my knowledge from him, he already posted the answer to that but I forgot at which thread.

Sir Matz,
HK amps have always been better when it comes to audio listening. Yamahas have always been regarded as bright for audio. But I personally think they're the best for HT.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Aug 15, 2005 at 12:29 PM
Bro Art, have you tried the separate amplifier for the 9.1 presence channel  setup yet?

I just read in audioholics.com that the new RXV4600  (http://www.audioholics.com/productreviews/avhardware/YamahaRX-V4600HTp1.php) receiver cannot do this. I dont feel confident that our 650-750 can do this if a US$1800 receiver cannot.  :(

Tried it yesterday bro, I attached another amp to the SBR and SBL preouts. Bad News, di pwede. It seems the circuitry is built in such a way that the pre out terminals are placed after the relay switches of the amp. When I tried switching from SB to PR, the signal on the separate amp is just cut. So, it's safe to say it doesn't switch signals together with the amp settings. I think it would have been possible if the preouts were connected before the relay switches. Maybe we can find somebody willing to make a tap to the amp's processor pre out puts within the circuit. But that would be a risk.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: abj104 on Aug 15, 2005 at 12:33 PM
sir bumblebee,
thanks sir! sorry mali yung explanation ko kanina.
my setting before was at Main 8ohms MIN/spkr(because i'm using a BnW601 for fronts.But I have used my Wharfs as MAIN (nakatambay kasi)but forgot to set MAIN into 4 ohms MIN/spkr.(since 6ohms  ang wharfs).Naisip ko lang na dun lang nagkaproblema after using my wharfs mag 4 days na.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 15, 2005 at 12:37 PM
Sir Matz,
HK amps have always been better when it comes to audio listening. Yamahas have always been regarded as bright for audio. But I personally think they're the best for HT.  ;D

I totally agree. But actually, after evaluating this week, I now know that I actually prefer the brighter audio I heard from Yamaha  :-\, or maybe nasanay lang ako sa Yammy. I really liked those sharp sounds (not overly sharp ones though) like the tsk..tsk..tsk.. from whatever-you-call-that-instrument and the details of the mids and highs.

But I will be moving to our new place in a few weeks. I put a lot of acoustic treatment to the listening room/living room, so maybe there will be a difference.

Quote
Tried it yesterday bro, I attached another amp to the SBR and SBL preouts. Bad News, di pwede.

Hmm, I thought so...But you had a great idea there.  ;)

Maybe you can send this idea to Yamaha and maybe they will pay you some royalty for it  :D and release their new model this way, Yamaha model AAJ series ;D.

Yamaha AAJ-360, Yamaha AAJ-460, Yamaha AAJ-560, Yamaha AAJ-660, Yamaha AAJ-760, Yamaha AAJ-1600, Yamaha AAJ-2600 ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Aug 15, 2005 at 12:55 PM
That's great bro matz, AAJ Series... Patay sila sa demands ko kung ganun.  ;D

I also personally prefer bright audio since I always prefer clarity. Hi hats (tsk, tsk, tsk sounds) and other mid and high sounds are very audible with yamahas. I also found that the bass reproduction is improved when listening to audio in the the DTS Neo:6 Music mode. But recently, I found the spectacle dsp mode seems nicer in terms of clarity and effect simulation, just have to bring up the sub level though.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: synchro_01 on Aug 15, 2005 at 01:08 PM
Kaya pala! I just switched to Harman Kardon AVR630 last week, and one of the first things I noticed was the awesome bass that came out of my Mission floorstanders. It just wasnt there when I was using my Yamaha 650.

Quite cool if you are into 2 channel listening (2.0), but if you prefer using subs (2.1), doesnt really matter.

IMHO that is why the HK is more expensive as compared to a similar spec AVR from the other manufacturers.  The extra that you paid for went to beefier output components, larger torroids, higher spec power supply and capacitors so that the AVR can easily handle speakers with exotic loads without compromising quality and output. 

for me a AVR based system w/ a sub or w/o a sub benefits from high current capability...music and movies both demand high headroom from the amps. If your amps are not up to it then the sound will just become bright when the passages with high transients are played. SQ, coherence and definition are the first ones to go out of the window.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Aug 15, 2005 at 01:45 PM
That's great bro matz, AAJ Series... Patay sila sa demands ko kung ganun.  ;D

Yamaha AAJ. Parang Arcam FMJ ang dating ah :D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Aug 15, 2005 at 01:52 PM
HK has always been reputed with "Higher-quality amps". Higher-quality in the sense that their amps have very little harmonic distortion. It may be inaccurate to say that the brighter the sound output, the lower the power since there are so many possibilities why this is so. Cicuit design and how it affects sound reproduction is so complex that it would take too much time to discuss it.

Yamaha has always been a manufacturer of great products. They may not be the best at a particular product line, but they're still one of the finest. Ask any audiophile and they'd tell you they do respect Yamaha amps because every now and then, Yamaha comes up with a product that could beat other products in that line and consistently is one of the leaders. Yamaha probably seems to be the best in HT because Yamaha was the first to have it's own DSP technology. Long before Dolby Digital and DTS came into the picture. CinemaDSP was born in the same period that Dolby Prologic was invented. Yamaha never just accepted Dolby technology, they created their own.

There is a sticky ang long discussion about this in the Pioneer thread. You may want to look into it. Just my 2 cents.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: synchro_01 on Aug 15, 2005 at 02:07 PM
HK has always been reputed with "Higher-quality amps". Higher-quality in the sense that their amps have very little harmonic distortion. It may be inaccurate to say that the brighter the sound output, the lower the power since there are so many possibilities why this is so. Cicuit design and how it affects sound reproduction is so complex that it would take too much time to discuss it.

hi arthur

Being a Yamaha AVR owner myself I do understand the value of the tecnology/price/performance ratio that they offer to the enthusiast. Hard to beat IMHO however bro if you read my post I never said anything like "the brighter the sound output the lower the power".  The thing that I am implying is that high current avr's and amps provide the user with more headroom when the need arises (like an orchestral crescendo at 0 volume level or a spectacular explosion on DVD 5.1).  other less endowed avr's simply stop getting louder at that point of transient dynamics...they just become brighter and bass is often thinner at that level....hitting the wall so to speak.   :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Aug 15, 2005 at 02:36 PM
Peace, bro! ;D

No argument, bro, that's why it was unquoted because I know those weren't your exact words. Just kinda liked the discussions we were starting to have. Knowledge is gained from such, di ba? And yes, I agree with you that lower frequency signals would require greater power to be reproduced accurately. Again, unquoted, bro. Just my interpretation of what I've read. Open to corrections. He he.  ;D Believe me, if I can afford a Harman Kardon for my planned audio set up, I'd buy it. Sana makahanap ng murang second hand sa buy and sell section. He he.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Aug 15, 2005 at 04:58 PM
As often the case is, mine is similar. I thought so too before with mine yamaha is thin in the bass section with 8.3. But got a diff speaker and the bass section is cool. what gives? so have quick experimentation and my 8.3 is thumping on the base when my speaker is placed 4 ft off corners, leaving almost 5ft between speakers - not good WAF (wife acceptance factor).

thin bass is most often the result of placement of speakers - not necessarily the fault of amps. But I also scratch my head because when I use my GC, it requires different speaker placement just to get good image in the LF. When I use yet another amp, a sony AX22, the placement is ok even near corners.

The cost issue does not support quality issues. Higher cost is not directly proportional to quality sonic issue in the audio world. the founder of HK himself declare this. Thus, the high cost of HK or the low cost of Yamaha has nothing to say about their respective sonic quality.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Lawin on Aug 15, 2005 at 05:25 PM
Bro arthurallanj,

I'm constantly 'tweaking' my RXV750 & Euro's 8. Just wanted to know anoung setting mo sa speaker size for your FRONTS na Euros 8 Tower and CROSSOVER for the LFE?

I've tried the earlier suggestions from other members and mas-napapaganda ko ngayun SQ nang set-up ko. ext, I will try to improve the acoustics ng room, kasi I notice that the walls/cabinets are shaking during heavy bass.

Cheers  :)
 


Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Aug 16, 2005 at 09:18 AM
I set my fronts to "Large", my crossover at 90 Hz. This is because I know my fronts are very well capable of producing LFEs. I, too, am constantly tweaking my system. That's why I love weekends.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Lawin on Aug 16, 2005 at 09:43 AM
I set my fronts to "Large", my crossover at 90 Hz. This is because I know my fronts are very well capable of producing LFEs. I, too, am constantly tweaking my system. That's why I love weekends.  ;D

Thanks, I have the same settings now as well (after a series of tweakings) . BTW, I posted a separate query under Daichi Speakers.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gedley on Aug 16, 2005 at 09:51 AM
hi, good morning...

im kinda new here...i would just like to ask for your opinion or suggestions...

i have a yamaha rxv440, bought it 9 months ago...its connected to a kef front speaker (cant remember the exact model) and a sub...

since i bought it, i never had had any problems with it, quality and functionality...until last week...when i tried to turn on the unit, it just wont turn on, no power. just a clip sound. i tried disconnecting the wires connected to it and still no luck.  i brought it to the shop where i purchased it and when they tested it, it worked in just one try, it turned on.  now, when i came home i again, i tried connecting it again to the ac but without the speakers yet...it didnt worked.  i unplugged it and plugged it again, this time in a different socket, it worked for a while then it shut down.  i tried turning it on and again just a clipping sound. i tried observing it for  a while. after an hour itried to turn it on again and this time it worked. i let it remain like that for 30 mins. after that i connected the speakers and turned it on again and it still works.  the next day i tried opening it again and the same problem occured again.

now, im really confused. i dont know where the problem is. is it in the unit or in my power source or in my connections? by the way, i already clean the terminal and see to it that there are no stray wires.  all the appliance (tv, dvd player, audio player) in the house works just fine.

what do i need to check? what else do i need to do?  any person that you can recommend to check the unit?  please help....

thanks a lot....
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: synchro_01 on Aug 16, 2005 at 10:17 AM
gedley

have the shop test the unit for a couple of days and see if they experience the same symptoms. If its less than a year then you still have warranty on the unit. If I were you i'd look for the warranty cards and the receipt na rin just in case.

had the same problem before although it was a Denon pre/pro. the faulty part was a relay switch that controls the delay when you turn on the power.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers problem
Post by: audioworld on Aug 16, 2005 at 12:28 PM
Good day!

If you have any problem w/ your any yamaha AV system please feel free to call or bring your unit to us at Audioworld Tech Inc. 749 Banaue Ave. corner Sct. Alcaraz St. Q. C. near Tramway Tea House and Spin Car Accessories 742-6843/732-7716

Cheers,
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers Prices
Post by: tal_rasha on Aug 17, 2005 at 09:48 AM
mga sir,

pwede po itanong kung how much yung bagong yamaha rx-v450/rx-v457? wala po kasi sa bundok(baguio) nyan.

thanks......
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gedley on Aug 17, 2005 at 10:12 AM
thanks...can i ask kung san mo pinaayos?any shop or individual that you can recommend? how much pala yung damage?



gedley

have the shop test the unit for a couple of days and see if they experience the same symptoms. If its less than a year then you still have warranty on the unit. If I were you i'd look for the warranty cards and the receipt na rin just in case.

had the same problem before although it was a Denon pre/pro. the faulty part was a relay switch that controls the delay when you turn on the power.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: synchro_01 on Aug 17, 2005 at 10:37 AM
thanks...can i ask kung san mo pinaayos?any shop or individual that you can recommend? how much pala yung damage?

gedley

I had it repaired sa authorized Denon repair center (I forgot the name and address...nasa warranty card).  No charge coz it was still under warranty at that time.
Sorry cant recommend a competent service center for your unit. It would be best for you to bring it to an authorized Yamaha service center since they have the technical knowhow and they stock the spare parts for their products. Good luck bro
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: abj104 on Aug 22, 2005 at 10:53 AM
gedley,
parehong pareho tayo ng kaso pati yung observation na ginawa mo to test if the problem will come back after 30 mins ginawa ko rin.
dinala ko sa shop na binilhan ko pero same with you, walang problema.inuuwi ko sa bahay at bumalik uli yung problema.mine was repaired a year ago ,pinalitan din ata yung relay but after a year eto na naman.it cost me 3.7k sa repair dati.

for now,nagagamit ko pa naman sya with the problem still exist pinagtyatyagaan ko lang wala pa kasing "atik" para ma pa ayos he he he...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: itgbkj on Aug 25, 2005 at 05:16 PM
I have an RXV-450 Yammie.  A friend told me that since I invested on music that much, invest on a Auto Voltage Regulator to handle the Receiver.  Question... what kind of AVR should I get - sabi kasi ng friend ko, hindi naman sipsipin ang power ng AVR mo kasi may sariling power ang Receiver.  Tama ba?  Kahit naka gauge at 500W ang Receiver, pwede ba yung mga AVR na maliit lang at hindi ang AVR biglang uusok?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 25, 2005 at 05:29 PM
I have an RXV-450 Yammie.  A friend told me that since I invested on music that much, invest on a Auto Voltage Regulator to handle the Receiver.  Question... what kind of AVR should I get - sabi kasi ng friend ko, hindi naman sipsipin ang power ng AVR mo kasi may sariling power ang Receiver.  Tama ba?  Kahit naka gauge at 500W ang Receiver, pwede ba yung mga AVR na maliit lang at hindi ang AVR biglang uusok?

Thanks.

You need to use a servo type AVR, not the usual ones used for computers which are basically surge protectors lang. A Yaden 1500w AVR only costs P2000 in Raon as compared to the cheapest one I see sa ACE & True Value na Omni 1500w @ P3.5k.

Voltage regulator thread , click here (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=1823.420)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jsllobrera on Aug 28, 2005 at 09:36 PM
Kanina napadaan ako sa listening in style sa megamall at tinananong ko yung 750 kung magkano na. Aba! ang sabi ba naman sa akin , 29k+ tapos yung 650 naman 19k+! At di nalang nga ako kumibo dahil alam ko naman na 19k+ nalang yung 750 tapos lumabas ako at sabi ko nga sa sarili ko, siguro sa iba ganun ang benta nila at buti nalang  nalaman ko na merong  pinoydvd at kundi naloko pa ako! At kasi kanina bago ako tumuloy ng mega, pumunta muna ako ng greenhills at hinanap ko ang Ambassador pero di ko naman makita at pero nandoon naman sa map ng bagong building ang name ng store at yun nga d ko nga makita o baka naman di pa sila open at kaya  di ko makita. At kaya sa susunod sa shangrila na ako pupunta at gusto ko sana sa makati kaya lang malayo na at di ko alam ang pasikot-sikot doon at mahuli pa ako. ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 29, 2005 at 10:00 AM
Bro, may Ambassador Appliances sa Shangrila Edsa mall , a few floors down Listening. They sell the 750 for about 19.5k.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: itgbkj on Aug 29, 2005 at 11:56 AM
You need to use a servo type AVR, not the usual ones used for computers which are basically surge protectors lang. A Yaden 1500w AVR only costs P2000 in Raon as compared to the cheapest one I see sa ACE & True Value na Omni 1500w @ P3.5k.

Voltage regulator thread , click here (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=1823.420)

Thanks for the inputs... ganun pala ang budget, 2K and up.  Sige, pag-iipunan ko muna 'to.  Tsaka, nagiipon na uli ako ng pera pambili ng surrounds ko.  Hanggang ngayon, wala pa rin akong surrounds... nabenta ko na.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: leomar on Aug 29, 2005 at 01:09 PM
mga sir magkano po price range ng rxv450? nung pong nagtanong ako sa listening room sa mega 14,950, may mas mura pa ba dun? thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Aug 30, 2005 at 12:27 PM
Bro leo,

Around 16 k ata. ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: itgbkj on Aug 31, 2005 at 06:47 PM
Hi Leo,

got mine around that price also.  Check-out The Home Theater and look for Sonny Tuazon...that's where I got my piece.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gonefishing on Sep 01, 2005 at 11:19 AM
mga sir magkano po price range ng rxv450? nung pong nagtanong ako sa listening room sa mega 14,950, may mas mura pa ba dun? thanks!

14.5k sa may festival mall doon sa store tabi ng globe center...
Title: Re: Banana Plugs for Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Lawin on Sep 05, 2005 at 10:10 AM
Guys,

Pwede bang magkabit ng banana plugs ( for the speakers) sa RXV-X50 na AVR? May benefits ba ito?

Cheers . . .
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 05, 2005 at 10:24 AM
Yes, pwede. At first I thought it wasnt possible. You just have to force the banana plugs in the first time to break the plastic cover (h*m*n). V*rg*n pa kasi eh  ;D

I use banana plugs to make it easier on the thick wires used in bi-wiring. Its so hard to connect thick wires kasi using the binding posts, lalo na when you are bi wiring. I use branded ones for the fronts and generic ones for the surrounds.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Lawin on Sep 05, 2005 at 10:36 AM
Yes, pwede. At first I thought it wasnt possible. You just have to force the banana plugs in the first time to break the plastic cover (h*m*n). V*rg*n pa kasi eh  ;D

Thanks Sir! I assume isa lang naman ang size ng banana plugs ... may benefit ba ito sa quality ng sound?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 05, 2005 at 10:57 AM
Thanks Sir! I assume isa lang naman ang size ng banana plugs ... may benefit ba ito sa quality ng sound?

Yes, but I was able to buy some cheap ones in Raon that didnt fit into the plugs.

I do not think there is a benefit in terms of sound quality. But in terms of ease of use, specially when you unplug it a lot, its a big help.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Lawin on Sep 05, 2005 at 11:21 AM
Yes, but I was able to buy some cheap ones in Raon that didnt fit into the plugs.

I do not think there is a benefit in terms of sound quality. But in terms of ease of use, specially when you unplug it a lot, its a big help.

Ok, will try the gold ones (screw type) I saw at Handy Man.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ASuL on Sep 09, 2005 at 11:33 AM
hello!

i've have already set my mind into just getting a 2nd hand yammy 450 given my budget and preferrence for HT.  however, one of our pdvd members have offered me a fantastic offer for his 440.  so now the question...

what is the basic difference of the 440 and 450.  it will be used to drive a lovely pair of diamond 9.1s  ;D

thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Sep 09, 2005 at 11:53 AM
I think the 440 is the preceding year's  model.  Both are 6.1.  It only has prologic II and 96/24 DAC while the 450 supports prologic IIx and 192/24 DAC.  Also based on the Yamaha website, the new model has more power. Check this site:

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/receivers/RXV450.htm#

and download a user manual of the 440 from here

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/customer/manuals/PDFs/RXV540440_e.pdf

so you can more or less compare. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpao on Sep 09, 2005 at 02:05 PM
hello!

i've have already set my mind into just getting a 2nd hand yammy 450 given my budget and preferrence for HT.  however, one of our pdvd members have offered me a fantastic offer for his 440.  so now the question...

what is the basic difference of the 440 and 450.  it will be used to drive a lovely pair of diamond 9.1s  ;D

thanks!


ASuL, av_phile1's right . the 450 has more juice than the 440 plus DAC conversion and prologic IIx support. do you already have access to the 450?  Give them both a listen so you can experience the difference between the two. If you can't seem to find any advantage, just go for the preceeding model. May sukli ka pa para pambili ng cables and wires.  ;D  Based on experience, I still have my rxv630 with me, never had a though of upgrading it to the newer models.  Why? Can't seem to find any use for those newer features.   ;)  Just a thought
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wanderlust on Sep 09, 2005 at 02:35 PM
hello!

i've have already set my mind into just getting a 2nd hand yammy 450 given my budget and preferrence for HT. however, one of our pdvd members have offered me a fantastic offer for his 440. so now the question...

what is the basic difference of the 440 and 450. it will be used to drive a lovely pair of diamond 9.1s ;D

thanks!


sir,

i am a very contented owner of a 450, which has been with me for almost a year now. in the days counting to my getting a 450, i was auditioning only the 440 as that is the amp that was very much within my prospected budget. however, i end up buying a secondhand 450 as an offer came by that is quite hard to pass up, which i suppose is the very reason now why you are also considering the 440 (kabaliktaran ata tayo ano). ;D

well, the very basic difference between the 440 and the 450 is the power, and you might have guessed it by now, the power difference is evident from the numbers itself: 10 watts!!! 450 is more powerful than the 440 by 10 watts. a not so significant matter if you will consider it vis-a-vis the speaker you are going to use it with.

the new yamaha series (440, 450, 650, etc.) is a great leap from the previous models. i from the start have been using a yammy wharfe combi for my HT and hearing the 440 for the first time gave me the impression that the audio aspect of the new models were significantly improved.

Now, as to the speaker you are planning to pair it with,  the 9.1 has rated Power at: 100W with a Nominal Impedance of 6ohm; Sensitivity is 1W @ 1m: 86dB; Frequency Range at -6 dB: 50Hz-23kHz; HF limit -10 dB: 44kHz Crossover Frequency: 2.2kHz Frequency, as compared with the 440's 75W x 6ch power; 96kHz/24-Bit Digital-To-Analog Converter and Digital ToP-ART and High Current Amplification; 96kHz/24-Bit DAC for All Channels, i say the 440 can easily drive with ease the 9.1. In fact the 440 is more than enough to make the 9.1 perform its best.

If you are able to strike a good deal for the 440 (as you stated), i say you strike whilsh  the iron is hot, as this type of things seldom comes around here. i for one was given a very tempting offer once before and am very much happy i did accept it.  :D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ASuL on Sep 14, 2005 at 12:46 PM
thanks so much for all the advice...you guys make it easier for newbies like me  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: leomar on Sep 14, 2005 at 01:27 PM
to gurus, users, experts! hehe

anybody here using euros8 speaker set with any yammie model... whats ur performance/value rating?

kasi i already have euros8 bookshelves and might go euros8 all the way hehe
kontento na ako sa performance ng euros8 bs using generic receiver so baka if ever upgrade ako yammie and euros8 set na bibilhin ko

btw 80/20 ang gamit ko 80 for HT, and mostly tuner lang and music ko hehe
thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: shuttertrigger on Sep 14, 2005 at 02:06 PM
to gurus, users, experts! hehe

anybody here using euros8 speaker set with any yammie model... whats ur performance/value rating?

kasi i already have euros8 bookshelves and might go euros8 all the way hehe
kontento na ako sa performance ng euros8 bs using generic receiver so baka if ever upgrade ako yammie and euros8 set na bibilhin ko

btw 80/20 ang gamit ko 80 for HT, and mostly tuner lang and music ko hehe
thanks!

bro, check out the HK 130 at buy and sell..its fairly cheap for 12k..

just me..thanks... :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: leomar on Sep 14, 2005 at 02:10 PM
na pull out na yata un sir e...  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ASuL on Sep 16, 2005 at 10:52 AM
i hooked up my brandnew second hand 440 receiver to my brandnew second hand diamond 9.1 (hehehe)...tapos since my 21 inch samsung TV (CT-21M20MQ) does not have audio out i had a Y connector connected to the earphone jack to the audio in of the receiver...so ok...nag work naman

now the questions....

why is it that every time i change the channel...there is popping-booming sound.  ganun din kapag when i turn off the TV.  kaka-paranoid kasi...parang biglang meron power surge sa speakers that causes the booming sound.  kasi parang nag-cut of yung sound tapos kapag nag engage na yung changing of chanels ayun biglang boom... ???

other facts...(wasn't able to experiment na kasi)

naka-on yung turbo sound feature and MTS settings.  maybe i should try naka-off yun.  but is that normal?



Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 16, 2005 at 10:58 AM
i hooked up my brandnew second hand 440 receiver to my brandnew second hand diamond 9.1 (hehehe

Hanep sa brand new  :D. Congrats!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ASuL on Sep 16, 2005 at 11:11 AM
help...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 16, 2005 at 04:18 PM
i hooked up my brandnew second hand 440 receiver to my brandnew second hand diamond 9.1 (hehehe)...tapos since my 21 inch samsung TV (CT-21M20MQ) does not have audio out i had a Y connector connected to the earphone jack to the audio in of the receiver...so ok...nag work naman

now the questions....

why is it that every time i change the channel...there is popping-booming sound.  ganun din kapag when i turn off the TV.  kaka-paranoid kasi...parang biglang meron power surge sa speakers that causes the booming sound.  kasi parang nag-cut of yung sound tapos kapag nag engage na yung changing of chanels ayun biglang boom... ???

other facts...(wasn't able to experiment na kasi)

naka-on yung turbo sound feature and MTS settings.  maybe i should try naka-off yun.  but is that normal?





Even naka zero yun volume ng AVR mo?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ricky on Sep 16, 2005 at 04:25 PM


now the questions....

why is it that every time i change the channel...there is popping-booming sound.  ganun din kapag when i turn off the TV.  kaka-paranoid kasi...parang biglang meron power surge sa speakers that causes the booming sound.  kasi parang nag-cut of yung sound tapos kapag nag engage na yung changing of chanels ayun biglang boom... ???




Quote

Bro ganon talaga based on my experienced before nung mono pa lang yung tv ko,talagang may poping sound pag on and off and change channel esp kung sa earphone jack mo connect,even sa audio out na mono meron din so if i were you wag mo nalang i connect yung tv mo since baka ma damage pa speakers mo sayang brandnew second hand pa naman :)Anyways why would you want to use your avr while watching reg tv broadcast? yung dvd player mo na lang ang i connect mo.


Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: vvt-i on Sep 16, 2005 at 05:02 PM
help...

asul,

get a new tv with audio out.  ;D

kidding aside, i agree with ricky don't connect anymore to the headphone out at baka ma-damage yung brandnew second hand speakers mo. better safe than sorry.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ASuL on Sep 16, 2005 at 05:16 PM
oo nga e...trying to dispose of it.  hehehe! langya! wala pa yatang 24hrs nagagamit yung TV benta na agad  :'(
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ASuL on Sep 16, 2005 at 06:05 PM
wala na ba talaga option except to buy a TV with an audio out?


factor ba na ordinary Y cable lang gamit ko?


what if sa DVD audio out ko padaanin? pwede ba eto?  kasi sa vcr pag naka-video pwede di ba?


btw, sir jet idadaan ko nalang yung cable next time...salamat ulit
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Sep 16, 2005 at 09:23 PM
ASuL,

Use the earphone out for earphones only. Baka me iba pang properties yung signal na galing dun compared dun sa galing sa audio outs.

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ASuL on Sep 17, 2005 at 05:40 PM
gaun pa rin...kahit sa na off yung mts and turbo sounds meron pa din  :'(


the new samsung tv has audio out pero mono...does this mean ganun pa rin like what ricky's experience?

gusto ko kasi pag nuod tv nagka-avr...hehehe ;D


syet! di pa kaya na damage yung speakers ko...huhuhu  :'(
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Sep 19, 2005 at 12:19 PM
i hooked up my brandnew second hand 440 receiver to my brandnew second hand diamond 9.1 (hehehe)...tapos since my 21 inch samsung TV (CT-21M20MQ) does not have audio out i had a Y connector connected to the earphone jack to the audio in of the receiver...so ok...nag work naman

now the questions....

why is it that every time i change the channel...there is popping-booming sound.  ganun din kapag when i turn off the TV.  kaka-paranoid kasi...parang biglang meron power surge sa speakers that causes the booming sound.  kasi parang nag-cut of yung sound tapos kapag nag engage na yung changing of chanels ayun biglang boom... ???

other facts...(wasn't able to experiment na kasi)

naka-on yung turbo sound feature and MTS settings.  maybe i should try naka-off yun.  but is that normal?


This problem is usually caused by the TV's tuning system. Some tuners are designed that way everytime you switch the channels, especially if it's analog, parang on and off everytime you switch channels, and so are many cable boxes and analog radio tuners. So my point here is, it's best not to attach your tv's audio out to the amp baka kasi masira pa ang ibang gamit mo. Tutal, broadcast lang naman yan e. Most of which isn't even in stereo.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ASuL on Sep 19, 2005 at 12:37 PM
ok...i got your point  :-[  i wanted to maximize sana the receiver by being able to watch ordinary cable with enhanced audio  :'(
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Sep 19, 2005 at 01:09 PM
You're unnecessarily adding to your electric bill routing the TV sound to your receiver when cable sound that is mostly MONO is not worth enhancing.  But that's just me.  ;D

Don't worry about not maximizing your investment in your receiver.  It will be when you realize you have more DVD titles than you have time to watch.   ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ASuL on Sep 19, 2005 at 03:07 PM
wala kasi ako DVDs hehehe! kaya puro TV  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 19, 2005 at 03:23 PM
New Yamaha RXV1600 & 2600 with HDMI (http://www.audioholics.com/cedia/cedia2004/YamahaRXV2600RXV1600receiv.php) upconveter coming!

This hobby just never ceases to amuse me... ;D and test my contentment level, hehe
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Sep 20, 2005 at 10:37 AM
New Yamaha RXV1600 & 2600 with HDMI (http://www.audioholics.com/cedia/cedia2004/YamahaRXV2600RXV1600receiv.php) upconveter coming!

This hobby just never ceases to amuse me... ;D and test my contentment level, hehe

Everytime I see something new, Richard Gere's line from Pretty Woman comes back to me: "I know about wanting more, I invented the concept...."  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: leomar on Sep 27, 2005 at 06:36 PM
just checked the yamaha website! whew, may bago na namang line, rxv - xx7 series hehe meron na bang     rxv-457 dito sa atin? magkano kaya dito un?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Sep 28, 2005 at 10:50 AM
Kainis ka naman bro leomar e! Di na nga ako bumubisita sa Yamaha website para di na ma-tempt tapos nagyayaya ka pa. Sige na nga! Silip na lang ako dun!  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: leomar on Sep 28, 2005 at 10:55 AM
ok lang yun sir arthur, para pag may magustuhan ka, ihagis mo lang sa amin ung dati mong receiver hehe
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Sep 28, 2005 at 11:02 AM
Me reviews na nga e :)

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/reviews/pdf_reviews/RX-V657review.pdf

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_12_3/yamaha-rx-v657-receiver-8-2005.html
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Sep 28, 2005 at 11:04 AM
ok lang yun sir arthur, para pag may magustuhan ka, ihagis mo lang sa amin ung dati mong receiver hehe

Now, the ulterior motive is revealed....  ;D Bad ka!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: leomar on Sep 28, 2005 at 02:06 PM
joke lang sir arthur hehe

meron na po na nakabili ng bagong mga model na ito?
any comments/reviews?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Sep 29, 2005 at 08:18 AM
bro leomar,

Dyan at dyan din mapupunta ang lahat ng gamit natin, di ba?  ;D ;D He he.

Ang pinag iba nya lang naman nya is yung radio at ang component video upgrade. So di pa ko ganun ka excited to upgrade.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: leomar on Sep 29, 2005 at 09:14 AM
yup, ung xm radio and addtional component video inputs, so i guess ok pa rin naman ang rxv - x50 series!  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 29, 2005 at 10:28 AM
Kinabahan din ako when I read about the new models coming out many months ago. Eh, I just bought a RXV650 that month. When I read that only the radio and inputs were new... Whew, relief.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Sep 29, 2005 at 08:07 PM
Actually, the x50 series is a bit too advanced for the others, or at least, for it's time. As of now kasi, very limited pa lang ang 6 channel discrete dvds, and so far, there is no dts or dolby format that features 7 discrete channels. So, medyo matatagalan pa siguro bago tayo mag upgrade. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Sep 30, 2005 at 11:02 AM
Hey Yamaha users, as per audioholics.com (Gene's post (http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14280&page=8&pp=10)), Yamaha's power consumption is not MAX but rather 2 channels driven at max power and all other channels at 1/8th power. So, we really shouldn't compare Yamaha's power ratings w/ other receivers' based on power consumption.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Sep 30, 2005 at 12:48 PM
Hey Yamaha users, as per audioholics.com (Gene's post (http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14280&page=8&pp=10)), Yamaha's power consumption is not MAX but rather 2 channels driven at max power and all other channels at 1/8th power. So, we really shouldn't compare Yamaha's power ratings w/ other receivers' based on power consumption.

Why not?

The way I look at it, Yamaha or whoever posted on audioholics.com is just playing with words.
Either Yamaha provided PSU good only to support 2-ch at max (10% THD) + 1/8 of other channels power  OR
Their PSU can only support 2-ch at max (10% THD) + 1/8 of other channels power.

This has been shown in the past already. Yamaha's rating is always in stereo (2-ch mode only) - and probably their marketing guys added the "into 6 channels".

Take the Yamaha 630 rated power consumption at 280W, though the paper said 75W/90W(max, meaning at 10%THD). The 90W max is more of the limitation of the transistor amp (beginning to distort pass the fidelity mark). But measurement of fidelity into 6 channels yields only 37.5W per channel (x6 is 225W). At max output (10% THD), it can reach to about  45W (10%THD) per channel (more of PSU limitation rather than amp), or a total of 270W with all channels driven.

HK or NAD has different methodology of measuring and declaring power and is reflective of power consumption in direct computation. But again, they just arrive on the same product category, if you compute the actual per channel equal power loading.

But Yamaha is just being realistic in noting how surround channels behave in power consumption and put them a 1/8 value - though its going beyond being a little more 'truthful' in the marketing publications to say it applies to the 6 channels (as in 630).

Though I could have opted for other brands if it is mere power I am running after.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ATJr. on Oct 01, 2005 at 06:32 AM
just to remind you guys, it makes no difference if your amp is a 10watt one or a 100watt one, if they are both playing at the same volume(level) driving the same type speakers!

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wanderlust on Oct 04, 2005 at 11:54 AM
just to remind you guys, it makes no difference if your amp is a 10watt one or a 100watt one, if they are both playing at the same volume(level) driving the same type speakers!



my apologies sir, but i may have to disagree on this. comparing a 10 watter to a 100 watter would'nt be quite fair as by itself the 80 watts diff is very significant.

Even taking into consideration the "same volume level,driving the same type of speakers" limitation you mentioned, one will still notice a significant diff, most apparent of which will be the gain, even at the same volume level lalabas na mas malakas tunog ng 100 watter to the 10 watter, you have then to increase the volume level for the 10 watter para pumantay ang lakas nito sa 100 watter.

how much more if you also take into consideration the power rating of the speakers being used. certainly you can not expect a 10 watter to drive effeciently a speaker rated at 100 watts. ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Oct 04, 2005 at 12:32 PM
...a 10 watter to a 100 watter would'nt be quite fair as by itself the 80 watts diff is very significant.

In technical terms, the 100watter is just twice as loud as the 10watter. If I am comparing just the max power, it is not quite fair. But if one's listening is typical home type, the 10W can be compared to 100W.

Even taking into consideration the "same volume level,driving the same type of speakers" limitation you mentioned, one will still notice a significant diff, most apparent of which will be the gain, even at the same volume level lalabas na mas malakas tunog ng 100 watter to the 10 watter, you have then to increase the volume level for the 10 watter para pumantay ang lakas nito sa 100 watter.

I think the level being specified here is not the level indicator you can see in your amp, but rather your typical listening level - thus, it will be the same for 10W as the 100W (typically it is somewhere about 1-2W, though this also depends on the speakers' sensitivity). But you are correct in saying a -20dB volume level in 100W is little bit louder (twise as much) than -20db of 10W. 0dB of 10W is the same as -10dB of 100W.

But I doubt whether you do set your 100W amp to -10dB volume level unless your speaker is not that efficient. For 86dB speaker, the 10W can make it sound as high as 95dB, which is basically too loud already


how much more if you also take into consideration the power rating of the speakers being used. certainly you can not expect a 10 watter to drive effeciently a speaker rated at 100 watts. ;)

Why not? Efficiency of speaker does not depend on the power it gets from your amp, but it is inherent on its own design. An efficient speaker (90upward) can be driven even by a 1 Watter depending on your typical listening level. If you have the likes of klipsch at 95db, you many not even need a 10watter for typical listening. Power rating of speaker only provide you info how much power your speaker can accomodate. It does not indicate the drivability of the speaker at lower power - the sensitivity does! Though some speaker manufacturer makes difficult speakers to drive - thus, it is not amount of power that you should look into, but the amp design already, whether it can handle difficult speakers - thus, 10W or 100W can do the job as well.


Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: eagumban on Oct 04, 2005 at 02:44 PM
just to remind you guys, it makes no difference if your amp is a 10watt one or a 100watt one, if they are both playing at the same volume(level) driving the same type speakers!


100watt will make a difference compared to 10watt during transients especially heavy bass.  Remember that the headroom of a 100watt is great compared to a 10watt. For me every watt counts especially on ht. One don't really know when you need it, but in case, its ready. Just my one cent. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Oct 04, 2005 at 04:48 PM
I think we need to qualify certain assertions made here.  Yes you can compare a 10watter with a 100watter.  But with some qualifications.  2ny is right but within the confines of his "if" statement.   His assertion could be made more precise if he mentioned a specific voltage value fed to an 8 ohm impedance load.  For instance, with all others equal, both 10watt and 100watt amp will sound the same if both were feeding 4v RMS into an 8 ohm load.  That's just 2 watts.  And mind you, 2 watts can already be loud in a typical room on a 90db 8-ohm speaker. 

So in layman's terms, both amps can easily sound the same operating at normal comfortable volume levels on the same load.  Argument will come in as to what is normal comfortable levels for different people.  But that is generally around the 2-6 watt area on a typical speaker sensitivity of 88db-90db in a typical room.    It's when you start to crank up the volume that you start to appreciate the extra juice that a 100watt amp can give.   Obviously the 10 watt amp will start to clip and gasp for more current as you reach its limits,  while the 100watter will still be breezing through at the same level.  That's when you start to hear the difference.  But not before. 

 




Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Oct 04, 2005 at 05:18 PM
how much more if you also take into consideration the power rating of the speakers being used. certainly you can not expect a 10 watter to drive effeciently a speaker rated at 100 watts. ;)

Actually it can.  There's really no such thing as an amp driving "efficiently" a speaker.  Each gear has its own efficiency rating independent of the other.   A 10watter can drive a 100 watt speaker just as easily as a 100watter.  At a certain volume level below 10 watts, both amps will be capable of delivering the signal voltages and current to drive a 100-watt speaker to a certain spl.  Remember that any speaker has a sensitivity rating expressed in db per meter per 1-watt of input.  That means any speaker can be driven by a 1-watt input.  Now whether you will hear anything is a matter of speaker sensitivity.  But even an 86db speaker will already sound loud 1 meter from it with just 1 watt input.  70db is the normal loudness of conversation between two persons talking at close range. 

Having said that, it is normally not recomended to use 10 watt amps to drive 100 watt speakers.  Not that it can't.  It's just that the temptation to crank up the volume of the amp is great since the speaker rating can handle up to 100 watts of input.  But at that volume, there are just a lot of THD products that can potentially ruin the speaker. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Oct 04, 2005 at 05:19 PM
100watt will make a difference compared to 10watt during transients especially heavy bass.  Remember that the headroom of a 100watt is great compared to a 10watt. For me every watt counts especially on ht. One don't really know when you need it, but in case, its ready. Just my one cent. ;D ;D ;D

You are discussing headroom here, and not rated power. A 10-W amp with a higher headroom specs is better than a 100-W with very limited headroom. If this is the case, your 100W is just as good as the 10W, where the 90W of the 100W will just be considered the additional headroom. Further, in HT, the heavy bass is more efficiently handled by the subwoofer - not the main amp. This is my five cents.  8)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Oct 04, 2005 at 05:24 PM
Ang ganda ng discussion dito, dami ko natutunan...  pero mag-iba naman tayo ng topic:  For those who of you who are contemplating on using their Yamaha receiver as Karaoke, here is my little review.

My receiver is a Yamaha RXV550.  Aside from using it for HT and audio, I also use it with Karavision MidiKaraoke 8,400++ songs yung model na may tape recorder sa side.  My fronts are DIY Crown woofer with Konzert mid and metal dome tweeter, generic china surrounds, Yamaha 440 center and USAudio 12' subwoofer.

I have this set-up for a year na.  Ito ang main HT, audio at karaoke set-up ko.  Pag HT mode ako, ang DVD player ko Extreme.  But on audio music listening, yung Karavision gamit ko kasi parang mas maganda sa pandinig ko pag analog and audio.  Pag karaoke mode naman, Karavision din ang source.

So far, kaya naman ng Yammy550 yung karaoke mode.  For typical weekend singing session nasa -16db to -12db ang volume setting, pero pag peak na ng kasayahan mga -10db na.  As compared pag HT and audio mode, naka -24db to -20db lang  Naka set sa ConcertHall DSP at activated yung subwoofer kaya ang ganda ng boses ko dun (ehem...!).  Last new year's eve, nagkantahan kami sustained for 3-4 hours na naka -6db ang volume pero di naman nagkaproblem yung Yammy though uminit talaga sya ng husto.

Based on my experience, I can say that Yamaha550 receiver is robust enough for karaoke purposes.  I am using Shure SM58 microphone and Magus mic mixer, nakakatulong ang Shure mic at mic mixer na itimpla yung vocals kaya siguro hindi nahihirapan ang receiver ko.

Ü
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: eagumban on Oct 04, 2005 at 10:44 PM
You are discussing headroom here, and not rated power. A 10-W amp with a higher headroom specs is better than a 100-W with very limited headroom. If this is the case, your 100W is just as good as the 10W, where the 90W of the 100W will just be considered the additional headroom. Further, in HT, the heavy bass is more efficiently handled by the subwoofer - not the main amp. This is my five cents.  8)

Bosing, I'll clarify something, when I said headroom, I mean the maximum voltage swing of a signal peak to peak of a 100W is larger than that of a 10 watter amp. Ibig sabihin, hindi madaling mag clip ang 100W kaysa 10W. Base ko lang yan sa konting knowledge sa electronics. He he he ;D

Tama din yung sabi ni av_phile  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Oct 05, 2005 at 02:21 PM
Bosing, I'll clarify something, when I said headroom, I mean the maximum voltage swing of a signal peak to peak of a 100W is larger than that of a 10 watter amp. Ibig sabihin, hindi madaling mag clip ang 100W kaysa 10W. Base ko lang yan sa konting knowledge sa electronics. He he he ;D


I understand what you are refering to ... and it is the one I am refering to also in my discussion. When you say rated power - it is the continuous power that the amp can sustain for a specified period of time - thus, 100W is bigger than 10W. But when you are saying music into clipping, you are refering to dynamic power - short burst of power - which is how music behaves. From paper specs, this has something to do with rated power plus the dynamic headroom. A 100W with almost nil dynamic headroom will not perform any better than a 10W with very good dynamic headroom. Other amp, like the NAD, employs the dual-bias tech which switch on a second bias voltage to accomodate peaks and avoid clipping (at short burst).
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ATJr. on Oct 05, 2005 at 03:25 PM
guys, here's another one.

headroom is a measure of how stiff the amp's psu is, a fully regulated amp will have no headroom!
a non-regulated psu will have more headroom.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Oct 05, 2005 at 04:40 PM
guys, here's another one.

headroom is a measure of how stiff the amp's psu is, a fully regulated amp will have no headroom!
a non-regulated psu will have more headroom.


True.  But how many or what's the percentage of power amps with regulated PSUs?  I reckon very small.  But even so, I agree.  That's why I am not so conscious about headroom and peak power abilities anymore.  I just rely on RMS values and at what THD level they were taken. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: eagumban on Oct 05, 2005 at 05:17 PM
I understand what you are refering to ... and it is the one I am refering to also in my discussion. When you say rated power - it is the continuous power that the amp can sustain for a specified period of time - thus, 100W is bigger than 10W. But when you are saying music into clipping, you are refering to dynamic power - short burst of power - which is how music behaves. From paper specs, this has something to do with rated power plus the dynamic headroom. A 100W with almost nil dynamic headroom will not perform any better than a 10W with very good dynamic headroom. Other amp, like the NAD, employs the dual-bias tech which switch on a second bias voltage to accomodate peaks and avoid clipping (at short burst).

If your 10 watt amp behaves this way then I agree.... ;)


True. But how many or what's the percentage of power amps with regulated PSUs? I reckon very small. But even so, I agree. That's why I am not so conscious about headroom and peak power abilities anymore. I just rely on RMS values and at what THD level they were taken.
Sama ako dyan.. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ATJr. on Oct 05, 2005 at 05:54 PM
what i posted in my last on headroom was about the technical function inside the amps.

now let me talk about another headroom, i will take a 200watter amp over a 20 watter, for the simple reason that the 20watter will clip earlier than a 200watter.

so there is my other headroom!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Oct 05, 2005 at 06:38 PM
what i posted in my last on headroom was about the technical function inside the amps.

now let me talk about another headroom, i will take a 200watter amp over a 20 watter, for the simple reason that the 20watter will clip earlier than a 200watter.

so there is my other headroom!

True.  Those self-styled gurus at audioholics, though I disagree with them on power rating, do not believe in peak power ratings, high current amps and dynamic headrooms, just RMS values.  (Some brands also hype their dynamic headrooms to unrealistic levels. )  If you want headroom, just get the most powerful amp with the least THD at rated power you can afford.  Knowing very well you will never use all that power, not even half of it,  you'll get all the headroom you'll ever need.  One of the most important trait of a good amp is that musical peaks at your preferred listening level are handled without clipping.  Listening continuously only at 20watts on a 200watt amp, there's not much chance that any musical peak will ever clip.  You have  more than enough headroom.   ;D  Many audiophile installations are like this. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: eagumban on Oct 05, 2005 at 09:48 PM
True.  Those self-styled gurus at audioholics, though I disagree with them on power rating, do not believe in peak power ratings, high current amps and dynamic headrooms, just RMS values.  (Some brands also hype their dynamic headrooms to unrealistic levels. )  If you want headroom, just get the most powerful amp with the least THD at rated power you can afford.  Knowing very well you will never use all that power, not even half of it,  you'll get all the headroom you'll ever need.  One of the most important trait of a good amp is that musical peaks at your preferred listnineg level are handled without clipping.  Listening continuoulsy only at 20watts on a 200watt amp, there's not much chance that any muscial peak will ever clip.  You have  more than enough headroom.   ;D Many audiophile installations are like this.

Bulls eye!!!  My comparison is only for a plane and simple amp and not highly suphisticated one.  These are also the rules I am following.  And it's better to have a reserve power in case you need one.   :)  ;)

av_phile1 I salute you ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ATJr. on Oct 06, 2005 at 05:45 AM
clipping in any amp is a bad thing, clipping happens because the input signal is high such that the output stage run out of voltage to follow the input. it is like "somebody jumped and hit the ceiling".

and saying that clipping is bad, output stage saturation and sticking is even worse, in such cases, psu ripples are coupled directly to the speakers!

sticking is a condition wherein both output transistors are in a heavy conduction!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ATJr. on Oct 06, 2005 at 06:08 AM
sine waves will have a peak power to average power of about 2, music otoh will have 10 or more, that is why headroom, lots of it is desireable!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Oct 06, 2005 at 12:35 PM
...Many audiophile installations are like this. 

I also want you to note that ... many audiophile installations are not like this (amp to the hudreds of power!)   ;)  :P

Anyway, just going back to the original comment and I re-cap, in similar typical listening volume level - the loudness and music handling is just the same for 10W & 100W.

For those driving the issue of their listening habits to more than reasonably typical - getting the most power they can buy is fair enough. More so if you dont trust their paper specs on headroom and dynamic power, except the RMS power at THD (on the same paper specs) ;D . Unless of course you do have some test to validate what they say they deliver!

I think it is just practical to play it safe this way so that it can guarantee you your power needs using consumer-grade products. I just hoped what you are buying is not also hyping their rms/thd rating - in the same way headroom and dynamic power are hyped!  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Oct 06, 2005 at 12:47 PM
sine waves will have a peak power to average power of about 2, music otoh will have 10 or more, that is why headroom, lots of it is desireable!

As a general rule, it should be. But as "lots" could be "without limit", the consideration should be trimmed down based on the intended usage/habit of a user. Of course, nobody is telling not to configure their power needs to their hearts' content - it is their own art to themselves.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ATJr. on Oct 10, 2005 at 11:38 AM
@aHobbit,

as with anyother undertaking involving costs, the size of the wallet will be the unltimate limit! ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bonzai on Oct 11, 2005 at 12:40 AM
hi guys does anyone of you releasing Yamaha RX-V2095 model?
or any higher Yamaha model?

yung mga gusto ng mag-upgrade dyan na balak bitawan mga yammy higher model nila.... old or new...

pls call or text me 6814301 or 0919.365.6328

tenx
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ASuL on Oct 11, 2005 at 01:20 PM
how do can i change the radio station using the remote of the 440?  not the changing station using the preset stations...yung parang automatic yung parang press right to go higher and left to go lower and then it stops when gets a signal.  thanks in advance
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Oct 11, 2005 at 06:23 PM
@aHobbit,

as with anyother undertaking involving costs, the size of the wallet will be the unltimate limit! ;D

'nga pala - economics is the game!  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Oct 12, 2005 at 12:29 PM
how do can i change the radio station using the remote of the 440?  not the changing station using the preset stations...yung parang automatic yung parang press right to go higher and left to go lower and then it stops when gets a signal.  thanks in advance

I don't think it can do that via remote. Preset lang.  ;D
Title: Re:yamaha rx-v630
Post by: wild_swan73 on Oct 13, 2005 at 02:41 PM
Im just new here at pinoydvd and very much satisfied about the topics being discussed here.  I got my Yamaha 630 bout 2 years ago (SALE).  I got an old existing speaker, a JBL CF100BK, 3 way 150W.  I bought the NS-P70 for my surrounds 2 months after i bought my 630.  Im planning to replace the JBL with a new one, any suggestion matching my existing set up?  Im also planning to buy a sub matching the RX-V630.  Im into audio and HT.  TNX 

which models of NAD or Harmon Kardon would you recommended?  siguro 'yung halos kaparehas ng specs ng yamaha rx-v630 at nasa PhP 20-25K range.    

thanks again!  :)




NAD T742 or Harman 2550 or 3550 ata yun
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Oct 13, 2005 at 05:33 PM
Wild_swan, welcome to the world of addicts, este hobbysts.  ;D

If you have a working budget in mind, that should help these hobbysts give their 2 cents advice.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wild_swan73 on Oct 14, 2005 at 09:52 AM
True, "addicts".  I for one didnt slept the night i bought my receiver.  Until now i cant get it out of my system.  anyway , bout my problem, i guess i could say 20K for the front speakers.  Based din dun sa mga nabasa ko, should i change my center speaker kc included na sa package yun ng yamaha ns-p70 for 6.1 setup.  Timbre matching??? nice 2 learn so much in here... Subwoofer to follow pag may budget n.  I am tempted 2 buy the dtx sub before, good thing i got into pinoydvd, more opinions, first hand expert's advice, lol.

Wild_swan, welcome to the world of addicts, este hobbysts.  ;D

If you have a working budget in mind, that should help these hobbysts give their 2 cents advice.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Oct 14, 2005 at 11:03 AM
For 20k, there are lots of good floorstanders available, Wharfe 9.6 and Mordaunt Short. If you could stretch it by a bit, there is AE EVO3, Mission M34i, Dali Concept 6, Monitor Audio B4.

If you dont mind buying a pre-owned one, Kimpao is selling his well taken cared of Monitor B4 at the buy and sell section, the price is a steal. I have tried a Monitor S6 with a Yamaha 650 and it was a good match (awesome bass) IMO. I think it would be the same for the B series. The problem is, if you want timber matched surrounds or if you prefer bipolar speakers, they are quite expensive (16k for MA B series bi-polars)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wild_swan73 on Oct 14, 2005 at 12:01 PM
MAtZTER,

Tnx, i dont mind buying a pre-owned if its worth the money,  how much for the B6? ???   Besides, im planning to get good speakers for audio and another for HT.  As a newbie i want to get my hard earned money's worth with your help including from other members of pinoydvd :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Oct 14, 2005 at 12:32 PM
MAtZTER,

Tnx, i dont mind buying a pre-owned if its worth the money,  how much for the B6? ???   Besides, im planning to get good speakers for audio and another for HT.  As a newbie i want to get my hard earned money's worth with your help including from other members of pinoydvd :)

For the MA B4, its definitely worth the money. click here (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=42579.0). great for your audio setup. Its the only speaker in the same price range as my Mission M34 that I caught my interest.

someone is also selling his MA center & 2 bookshelves. click here (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=42646.0)

Based on what you mentioned above, and in my experience & IMHO, I think that bookshelf speakers paired with good subs would be enough for HT. Then get a separate floorstander for your audio setup.

If I were to do it all again, I would do it this way: Yamaha 750/1500 or 1600 with bookshelf speakers and Velo sub. Then a separate integrated tube amp with floorstanders. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wild_swan73 on Oct 14, 2005 at 02:36 PM
 :)Ty po, i checked the thread of the MA B4 & MA BC, ok naman, ill think it over. :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: vvt-i on Oct 14, 2005 at 08:48 PM
wild_swan73,

i agree with matzter that the b4 in the buynsell thread is a steal.  brandnew costs above 20k.  good for audio and ht.  regarding your center speaker, i believe that a matching center will greatly enhance your listening and viewing pleasure as the transition of the sound from mains to center will be seamless.  i was a former owner of b4, b-center, yammy rxv-440, and wh-2 for surrounds.  been very happy with my setup until i was bitten by the audio-analog bug.  ;D

happy hunting.  :D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Oct 15, 2005 at 03:14 PM
wild_swan73,

i agree with matzter that the b4 in the buynsell thread is a steal.  brandnew costs above 20k.  good for audio and ht.   i was a former owner of b4, b-center, yammy rxv-440, and wh-2 for surrounds.  been very happy with my setup until i was bitten by the audio-analog bug.  ;D

Matindi ang bite ng bug kay Jetok :D

Brand new MA B4 is 22.5k
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bonzai on Oct 18, 2005 at 01:49 AM
does anyone here selling yamaha rx-v2095 or any yamaha higher end or mid end model???

pls text me 0919-365-6328



 :) ;) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'(
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: leomar on Oct 18, 2005 at 01:43 PM
mga sir!

im in the stage of choosing a "good" entry level branded receiver...

ano mas maganda ang performance sa HT between these two:
yamaha 550
onkyo tx-sr502

patulong naman po bago ako bumili!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Oct 18, 2005 at 01:52 PM
Yamaha 650 mo na para no regrets ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Oct 18, 2005 at 02:00 PM
Yamaha 650 mo na para no regrets ;)

I second the motion!

Tapos konti na lang...Yammy 750 na, may learning remote na! Titanium finish pa!...(asaan na yung devil icon???)

devil icon.....devil icon......devil icon......  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: leomar on Oct 18, 2005 at 03:45 PM
magkano ba yang 750 na yan ha? hehe
baka mamulubi na ako nyan!

ano bang mas masarap noodles araw araw o biskwit?

tagal pa ng bonus!hehe
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: shuttertrigger on Oct 18, 2005 at 04:46 PM
magkano ba yang 750 na yan ha? hehe
baka mamulubi na ako nyan!

ano bang mas masarap noodles araw araw o biskwit?

tagal pa ng bonus!hehe

bili bili na sir!  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Oct 20, 2005 at 10:42 AM
magkano ba yang 750 na yan ha? hehe
baka mamulubi na ako nyan!

ano bang mas masarap noodles araw araw o biskwit?

tagal pa ng bonus!hehe

E di every other day ang noodles at every other day din ang biskwit. But mas nakakabusog kasi ang noodles dahil sa sabaw.  ;D I wish my wife could understand this hobby. Me? I'd be willing to do the same just to get the gears I want. In the past, a girlfriend even told me to use my LD player as my plate since I was able to buy an LD player but was not able to buy my pinggan sa bahay na bago kong nilipatan then.  ;D

Para di OT: I think the only real reason you'd go for a 750 would be the learning remote. The additional 5W/ch doesn't seem to attract me that much, then the Component video upconversion seems useless for me since I cnnect all my video outs directly from my source to my monitor. But if konti lang ang difference then, maybe.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Oct 20, 2005 at 10:49 AM
If I'm buying, my main reason to go 750 over the 650 would the titanium color ;D Babaw no? ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Oct 20, 2005 at 10:57 AM
That's the same reason I got a titanium RX-V440. But I never really liked the color, parang silver din lang e. But I still have it in my Bedroom set up. I don't think mababaw sya, some of us just have a preference for this color.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Oct 20, 2005 at 11:05 AM
I agree to that, I used to frown upon my 650 for its gold color (sold it already), I still prefer silver or Titanium color like Bumblebee.

A learning remote is worth it for the little price difference. Separate universal remotes cost mga 5k din, if I am not wrong.

I love using only 1 remote now for all HT components with my HK universal remote. Buti nga sa Yamaha, 750 lang may learning remote na. Sa HK, you have to get the higher, more expensive models to get the universal remote.

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: leomar on Oct 20, 2005 at 11:27 AM
any ideas mga sir kung magkano ang price range ng 750/650?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Oct 20, 2005 at 02:19 PM
Ok din naman ang gold. Hindi nga lang bagay dun sa modern look ng Yamaha. Marantz's look good in gold.

20K ata yung 750. Try calling Electronics Depot.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Oct 21, 2005 at 09:46 AM
If 20K ang 750, then it may be best to go for it instead of the 650. The last time I heard, 650s sell for 19K each. So at a price difference of 1K, I think the learning remote, the 5W power difference, and the component video upconversion are worth it. That is, if 1K nga lang ang difference. But that's just me.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: leomar on Oct 21, 2005 at 09:58 AM
i already bought rxv-450 and happy tweaking it!
after all mind boggling selection  ;D and all factors considered (especially my budget!hehe) i settled for rxv-450.
wala na kasing stock na rxv-550 sa lahat ng pinagcanvassan ko e hehe

current set-up:
pioneer 373
yamaha rxv-450
euros8 tower
euros8 bs
euros8 center
sony 21" wega

btw, this is to upgrade my sakura 387-a, and just to compare the two (alam ko hindi dapat kasi generic vs branded, kaso ala pa ako experience sa ibang brands  ;D), here are some observation:


1) the bass-out of sakura is more prominent than rxv-450
    - well initial assesment pa lang naman kasi 2am ko na setup and hindi ko na masyado ginalaw, antok na kasi  ako hehe
    - specially on music and am/fm

2) discreet 5.1/6.1 sound
    - sakura have pro logic function (only) for multi-channel, so when listening to cd/fm, you can hear same sound to all channels
    - using neo6P:music, prologic II/x, the sound is indeed discreet, you can hear the separation of sound, center for voice, effects on the sorrund etc.

3) yamaha is indeed on the bright side
    - although i have no experience using other entry level brands, i can hear mid/high freqs more than i feel the bass, which consequently i feel with sakura

baka naman may na-miss ako sa settings kaya ganun ung observation ko hehe
ito ung mga initial setting na ginawa ko:

1) room - large (kahit 5m x 5m lang)
2) front - large
3) center - large
4) bass out - front
5) cross over - 40hz since sabi sa likod ng speaker 50hz-20khs)

may namiss ba akong importante para maramdaman ko ung bass?
btw, hindi ko pa natest sa dvd nung ni-set ko ung cross over to 40hz, cd lang ang medyo bitin ako sa bass! hehe

and cool ung remote, glow in the dark ung ibang keys!




Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Oct 21, 2005 at 10:20 AM
Congrats sa 450 mo, bro! I also started out with the 450, its a good entry level AVR.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: leomar on Oct 21, 2005 at 10:33 AM
thanks! sana hindi ako agad magsawa, kung hindi baka, madadalas ako sa quezon ave nito! hehe
btw, tips naman para sa settings hehe
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Oct 21, 2005 at 10:38 AM
i already bought rxv-450 and happy tweaking it!
after all mind boggling selection  ;D and all factors considered (especially my budget!hehe) i settled for rxv-450.
wala na kasing stock na rxv-550 sa lahat ng pinagcanvassan ko e hehe

current set-up:
pioneer 373
yamaha rxv-450
euros8 tower
euros8 bs
euros8 center
sony 21" wega

btw, this is to upgrade my sakura 387-a, and just to compare the two (alam ko hindi dapat kasi generic vs branded, kaso ala pa ako experience sa ibang brands  ;D), here are some observation:


1) the bass-out of sakura is more prominent than rxv-450
    - well initial assesment pa lang naman kasi 2am ko na setup and hindi ko na masyado ginalaw, antok na kasi  ako hehe
    - specially on music and am/fm

2) discreet 5.1/6.1 sound
    - sakura have pro logic function (only) for multi-channel, so when listening to cd/fm, you can hear same sound to all channels
    - using neo6P:music, prologic II/x, the sound is indeed discreet, you can hear the separation of sound, center for voice, effects on the sorrund etc.

3) yamaha is indeed on the bright side
    - although i have no experience using other entry level brands, i can hear mid/high freqs more than i feel the bass, which consequently i feel with sakura

baka naman may na-miss ako sa settings kaya ganun ung observation ko hehe
ito ung mga initial setting na ginawa ko:

1) room - large (kahit 5m x 5m lang)
2) front - large
3) center - large
4) bass out - front
5) cross over - 40hz since sabi sa likod ng speaker 50hz-20khs)

may namiss ba akong importante para maramdaman ko ung bass?
btw, hindi ko pa natest sa dvd nung ni-set ko ung cross over to 40hz, cd lang ang medyo bitin ako sa bass! hehe

and cool ung remote, glow in the dark ung ibang keys!






If you want a more apple to apple comparison, I suggest you compare both in the stereo mode or direct by-pass mode. Obviously the sakura has a different implementation of multichannel from the yammy.   And since I don't see any subwoofer in your set-up, forget about the crossover frequency to the bass in the Yammy.  There's a good chance the reason your yammy sounds thin is that the receiver is expecting a subwoofer when you set the crossover frequency.  Turn off the subwoofer setting by not specifying anything in it. Set only the and L and R front to LARGE.  Set the center to NORMAL so the bass goes to L and R front where the bass has more oomph due to tower construcction and better boundary  reinforcement from the sides than the center.    I've experienced getting thinner sounds with the center set to large because the center speaker I have isn't really meant to go as deep as the L and R speakers.  If your center speaker is the usual d'apollito arrayed horizontally mounted type and not identical to the L and R towers, that would also be the case.  And if you compare in stereo, the center won't matter.

If your Sakura has that bass boost switch or loudness switch, it gives an emphasized bass below 100hz.  I don't think the yammy or most branded HT receiver these days have a similar loudness switch.  SO turn this off for a more even comparison.

And the room dimension setting won't be applicale in stereo or direct mode as this is more for the DSP calculations for your surround ambient reverb simulations.  
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: leomar on Oct 21, 2005 at 11:27 AM
thanks sir av_phile!

ill reconfigure my yammie later, pag-uwi!hehe naiinip na tuloy ako! hehe

btw, using the towers as LFE source, bitin ba talaga using rxv-450?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Oct 21, 2005 at 12:08 PM
btw, using the towers as LFE source, bitin ba talaga using rxv-450?

In my experience:

Yamaha 650 + Mission towers = bitin LFE
Yamaha 650 + Monitor Audio S6= OK! very good LFE
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Oct 21, 2005 at 12:18 PM

btw, using the towers as LFE source, bitin ba talaga using rxv-450?

I guess that really depends on what level of bass you're looking for.  Whether you want deep bass or slammy bass.   You said the towers can go down to 50hz.  I don't think that's deep enough.  But they can be slammy if your speaker placement vis-a-vis room boundaries reinforce the bass.  Then again, they can't really do what  a good sub that goes down to at least 30hz -3db can.  But it all rests on your preference.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: leomar on Oct 21, 2005 at 01:26 PM

sir av_phile, sir matz thanks!
ok, i'll tweak the setup first, kung bitin pa rin, bili na ng sub!hehe gastos na naman!
btw, pede po pahingi ng test files para sa speaker?

pls send to [email protected]
salamat uli!

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Oct 21, 2005 at 03:03 PM
..........
may namiss ba akong importante para maramdaman ko ung bass?...........

I am using RXV550, halos pareho lang receiver natin.  May BASS TREBEL adjustment ang Yammy natin, naka-default yan sa flat or 0db setting.  In addition to sir av_phil's recommended settings, i-ry mo itong setting ko, gumanda ang bass ng yammy ko:

BASS  =  +10db
TREBLE  =  +4db

At this setting, di ko na kelangan i-on yung subs ko pag audio and karaoke mode kasi tamang-tama na yung bass.  Pero pag HT mode naman bitin ito so, to the rescue ang subs ko.  I think if you are a heavy HT user like me, kelangan mo talagang mag-add pa ng subs sa set-up mo.

Ü
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: itgbkj on Oct 21, 2005 at 03:16 PM
Hey, LEOMAR, congrats on your new RXV-450.  Yun ang gamit ko sa bahay.

On Subs and Yammy 450
May ni-tanong din ako before kung bakit mahina ang bass - sa pandinig ko.  Kala ko nga, hindi gumagana yung SUBs ko pag stereo.  I think, hindi naman talaga siya dapat gumagana eh.

Lately, binitawan ko na yung standards ko for a LFE... and took the set-up as is.  Tapos, ni try ko yung DTS - MUSIC at PRO L-II - Music Set-up... ayun, bumubuga na yung Sub ko.

Sir, what I'm trying to say here is bili ka na lang ng mumurahing sub : budget 2K.  Dai-ichi... okay na yun...  It should compensate for the lack of LFEs.


And yung STEREO set-up (no center, no SUBs).
Tama nga si AV_phile1 - if you want to have a fair-comparison, try Stereo set-up lang - less everything else... AV_phile1 was able to discuss this better than I can ever post... yun talaga ang tell-tale...

Try experimenting lang yung mga DSPs ng Yammies mo... kakatuwa sya... ang dami pala... pero, pag HT nga... isa lang ang inuuwian ng set-up ko... DTS.

Happy tweaking.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: leomar on Oct 21, 2005 at 04:23 PM
sir fnvillafuerte,
sige sir, try ko yan! hehe sana gumanda hehe
550 rin ang gusto ko nung una, kaso ala na stock e, power lang ba difference nila?

sir  itgbkj, salamat!
oo and daming DSP, masaya ang mga gabi at weekends ng pagti-tweak nito! hehe
ni-try ko na ung PLII/x, Neo6 kanina, satisfied naman ako, kaso nga lang, naghahanap ako ng LFE for HT, baka bili nga ako ng sub in the near future (bonus! bonus!) hehe
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Oct 22, 2005 at 08:53 AM
I have the Euros 8 in my living room set up with a Yammy 650, even if I turn off the sub at night, malakas pa rin ang bass. I think what you need is further tweaking, but do get a sub someday.

The reason why your Sakura seems to have a louder bass is the fact that Sakuras usually have a higher crossover setting, that's why it seems louder. And Sakuras usually have better amps for the fronts. Better in the sense that they are rated higher. All the other channels have a lower power rating, unlike modern HT amps that have equal power throughout all channels. Also, just to correct you a little, audio or 2 ch sources like CDs and FM, are not discreet. Discreet means independent from each other. Signals are different in all channels. I think what you mean is the Processing. DSP stands for Digital Signal Processing. It processes 2 ch audio to a more 3D like effect. For CD and other 2 ch sources, the Yammy seems to have the most bass at DTS Neo 6: Music mode. And setting the center to SMALL makes a big difference in Bass reproduction. Also don't forget setting the SP LFE LEVEL to MAX. Dami kang pwedeng gawin sa amp mo to improve bass. And it's best to use digital connections, Optical man or Coaxial.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: leomar on Oct 24, 2005 at 09:40 AM
sir arthur,

i sit corrected  ;D
yup i meant the Processing not the audio  ;D

btw, i tweaked the system and here it goes:

bass - 10
trebble - 4

center -  +10db
front   -   +5 db
sorround - +5 db

and yes, SPE Level - MAX

i tested this setting using selected scenes from different dvds:

LOTR: ROTK - gandalfs journey to minas tirith
I, Robots     - lening's (?)house demolition
Kill Bill 2       - lonely gave of paula schults (?)
TROY           - Achilles beachhead assault

i already felt the bass and satisfied with the result, ok na kahit wala muna sub, break-in ko muna ung mga speaker, baka gaganda po tunog...

oo nga pala, mas gusto ko sound using DTS kesa DD, coaxial din ang gamit ko...
may significant diff ba and optical and coaxial cables sa HT?

salamat sa lahat ng tulong!







Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Oct 24, 2005 at 01:11 PM
Usually, mas malakas at mas may depth ang DTS kesa sa DD, but lately some titles have better DD audio.

There wouldn't be any audible difference with using either coaxial or optical cables with digital signals. But there is an audible difference between analog and digital connections.

But personally, I just like using an optical cable better than a coaxial cable because of the personal feeling that mas hi-tech ang optical kasi the signals travel by light. But I once saw something on cable tv that signal flow is better with optical cables since the signals don't travel through electrons. There is no resistance and other factors to consider unlike with metal cables. And signals don't travel in a straight line with metal cables, too, it travels in wave like patterns. I'm sorry if I can't elaborate on the topic, that was a long time ago kasi e. Besides, there's little difference between getting a good quality coax and getting a good quality optical cable in terms of price.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: leomar on Oct 24, 2005 at 01:59 PM
eto mejo mababaw, wala ba graphic eq itong yamaha? kase ung sakura meron hehe
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Oct 24, 2005 at 02:11 PM
As far as my Yamaha RXV-550 model is concern, yes meron syang 5-band equalizer pero pang center lang ito, 'dunno sa ibang models.  For all channels, bass/trebel lang meron.

Ü
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: leomar on Oct 24, 2005 at 02:15 PM
meron din sa 450, center eq... ang ibig kong sabihin sir, ung gumagalaw galaw hehehe

btw, ung impedance selector switch, kasi itong mga speaker ko puto 6ohms, dapat i-switch ko to the left un?
tanong ko lang kung tama ung ginawa ko... hehe
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Oct 24, 2005 at 02:17 PM
meron din sa 450, center eq... ang ibig kong sabihin sir, ung gumagalaw galaw hehehe

btw, ung impedance selector switch, kasi itong mga speaker ko puto 6ohms, dapat i-switch ko to the left un?
tanong ko lang kung tama ung ginawa ko... hehe

According to audioholics, you get better fidelity if it's switched to 8 ohms.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: leomar on Oct 24, 2005 at 02:48 PM
wala ba effect un sa mga speaker or sa receiver?

oo nga pala, hindi ko pa naadjust ung center eq, ano ba tama/magandang setting nun? hehe
baka lalo pa gumanda ung voice/dialouges!  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Oct 25, 2005 at 08:50 AM
meron din sa 450, center eq... ang ibig kong sabihin sir, ung gumagalaw galaw hehehe

Actually, I think what you mean is the Spectrum Analyzer.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: leomar on Oct 25, 2005 at 09:10 AM
yun ba ang tawag dun? ;D pasensya na po sa noob na tulad ko hehe
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ASuL on Oct 25, 2005 at 10:38 AM
what settings should i look at and adjust if i want improve speech/dialog when watching dvds. im using a x440 with only 2 chan (wharf 9.1) with the receiver night feature most likely "ON" or else my neighbors will kill me  ;D

thanks people!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Oct 25, 2005 at 01:46 PM
If your receiver has the cinema eq setting, enable it.  It filters out high frequencies from the center chanel to mimic what goes out of the center speakers behind thick theater screens.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Oct 25, 2005 at 02:06 PM
yun ba ang tawag dun? ;D pasensya na po sa noob na tulad ko hehe


 ;D No problem, bro, we are all dependent on each other. We also learn through this. Ingat.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: leomar on Oct 25, 2005 at 02:24 PM
mga sir, ano best setting sa graphic eq?

pede ko ba gayahin ung eq setting ng sony tv ko? hehe
kasi meron dun: movie, sports, news, rock
ano ba dapat?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: leomar on Oct 25, 2005 at 05:48 PM
saan po pede bumili ng reliable but affordable banana plugs?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Oct 25, 2005 at 09:16 PM
saan po pede bumili ng reliable but affordable banana plugs?

Raon. Kung tinatamad ka, ACE Hardware and TruValue.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: powershort on Oct 25, 2005 at 10:05 PM

 Hello po mga Sir.,

      Ask lang po nang konting tulong....may AVR po ako na Yamaha RX-V550, Ok lang po ba
 na yung speaker ko eh wharfedale valdus 400? Ok ba yung performance nya? how about
 yung Bose 301 series.

 Salamt mga Sir. :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: powershort on Oct 25, 2005 at 10:07 PM
 How about yung yamaha htr5730? any comment po sa performance nya?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Oct 26, 2005 at 09:55 AM
Raon. Kung tinatamad ka, ACE Hardware and TruValue.

Malaki difference ng price sa Raon, halos half. If you are buying a lot of banana plugs, Raon would be a good place to go. But if you will be buying only a pair or two, you can go to ACE, etc. I usually buy mine from Sound Dimension or Listening Room.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kt on Oct 26, 2005 at 10:49 AM
sir matz! wat typ yung meron sa listening n 1 size lang ba yun? meron ba yung screw type lang? how much naman? tnx!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: leomar on Oct 26, 2005 at 10:50 AM
saan specifically sa raon? kay moses aaron ba? o may mas malapit/mura sa kanila dun?
siguro bili ako ng 5 or 6 pairs hehe
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Oct 26, 2005 at 11:12 AM
Mga Bros, OT na tayo  ;D, meron namang Banana Plugs na thread sa interconnects section. The info is all there.

click here (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=35987.40)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kt on Oct 26, 2005 at 11:18 AM
hehe onga OT na! kaso la kasi nagrereply dun! hehe
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: eagumban on Oct 26, 2005 at 11:28 PM
.... may significant diff ba and optical and coaxial cables sa HT?

leomar,

    Share ko lang experience ko... a few months back I used a DIY coaxial cable, for me it was ok, but when I tried an optical cable, mas luminaw ang mid frequencies.  Tinanong ko yung kaiban ko kung mayrong difference ang coax at optical nya... Sabi nya halos magkapareho lang.  Yun pala, pang digital coax pala yung gamit nya.  I suggest you may try optical cable, kasi mas mahal yung digital coax na ginamit nya.   Hope it helps....   ;) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: levi on Oct 27, 2005 at 02:14 AM
OT na nga. Pls stick to the topic. Thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: d00dZ on Oct 27, 2005 at 01:11 PM
Eto po nasa topic, re: RXV-650

I understand na sa atin pong mga nakabili nitong mighty fine bang-for-the-buck receiver na ito, di po tayo pinagpala with a solution to equalization concerns (save maybe for the center channel). Although for the moment kontento na ako sa auto setup, gusto sana career-in yung pag-tweak, lalo na pag-uwi ng girlfriend ko na hiningian ko ng Digital Video Essentials na pasalubong from the States.

Question: Do i need a separate graphic EQ? How do i connect it? Or alternatively, meron bang graphic EQ yung 650 na di ko lang alam?

Salamat po.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dsd01 on Oct 27, 2005 at 03:55 PM
mga bro, advice lang. ok ba yung setup n yammie rx-v440 at B&W dm303?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Oct 28, 2005 at 08:25 AM
Eto po nasa topic, re: RXV-650

I understand na sa atin pong mga nakabili nitong mighty fine bang-for-the-buck receiver na ito, di po tayo pinagpala with a solution to equalization concerns (save maybe for the center channel). Although for the moment kontento na ako sa auto setup, gusto sana career-in yung pag-tweak, lalo na pag-uwi ng girlfriend ko na hiningian ko ng Digital Video Essentials na pasalubong from the States.

Question: Do i need a separate graphic EQ? How do i connect it? Or alternatively, meron bang graphic EQ yung 650 na di ko lang alam?

Salamat po.  ;)

I don't think it does. HT amps were made that way for one purpose, "Purism". Amp designers would like to retain the quality and the characteristic of the original recording, the way sound engineers recorded and intended them to be. But if you prefer to have the capability to tweak it, you'd need at least 3 separate stereo equalizers and may need another 6 ch amp or 3 separate stereo amps or maybe 3 stereo amps with built in equalizers, on the assumption that you're not gonna need to tweak the center channel. If you do plan to, then add another mono amp and equalizer to that. The 650 has 8 channel outputs at the back which you can use for this purpose.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: d00dZ on Oct 29, 2005 at 02:58 PM
I don't think it does. HT amps were made that way for one purpose, "Purism". Amp designers would like to retain the quality and the characteristic of the original recording, the way sound engineers recorded and intended them to be. But if you prefer to have the capability to tweak it, you'd need at least 3 separate stereo equalizers and may need another 6 ch amp or 3 separate stereo amps or maybe 3 stereo amps with built in equalizers, on the assumption that you're not gonna need to tweak the center channel. If you do plan to, then add another mono amp and equalizer to that. The 650 has 8 channel outputs at the back which you can use for this purpose.  ;)

Anyinye!  :o If it's gonna take that much effort to tweak each channel for equalization, I'd rather leave it be. I guess I'd have to trust the YPAO then hehe  ;D Thanks sir arthurallanj
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: watson's box on Oct 30, 2005 at 12:03 AM
Finally, i was able to buy na my yammy-wharffe ht set up after several months of research and saving!!! So far im contented with how it sounds. Im in the process of breaking in the speakers. The 650 rocks!!! lots of features and does a good job in audio processing. Im using a Diamond 9 7.1 set up. (9.4, CS, DFS and sw150 for the sub) Ok pala ung ypao with regards to setting up. Its very user friendly.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ronjet on Oct 30, 2005 at 02:01 AM
sir watson's
     Congrats po sa SETUP niyo!....7.1 agad ha... ok ba talaga 650?..ilang watts po konsumo niyan sir?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: watson's box on Oct 30, 2005 at 07:38 PM
sir watson's
     Congrats po sa SETUP niyo!....7.1 agad ha... ok ba talaga 650?..ilang watts po konsumo niyan sir?

Yup, ok sya sobra, user friendly din dahil sa on-screen display when you access the receiver's functions. Ginawa ko nang 7.1 para sulit ung features. I also hooked up these old bass reflex cabinet type speakers na da1chi which i found home for the presence channel. While it cannot use the surround back and presence simoultaneously, the presence channel is useful when you're using the 5.1 modes. Adds sort of an ambiance to the overall sound field in front. I still havent tried properly placing the presence channels as of the moment but it still sounds great at its current position. By the way, the 650 consumes 400w when on and 0.1w when on standby.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 02, 2005 at 10:02 PM
How about yung yamaha htr5730? any comment po sa performance nya?


What Is The Difference Between The RX-V Line And The HTR Line?


There are many similarities between these two product lines. The RX-V line and the HTR line are produced in the same Yamaha factory using high quality parts throughout. The RX-V and equivalent HTR models have the same warranty periods, the same manufacturer's suggested retail price, similar features, and similar remote control units.

There is a cosmetic difference found on the front panels of these two lines. The RX-V line maintains the traditional white colored lettering normally found on most Yamaha components, while the HTR line provides a slightly different approach. Yamaha has created a new look by using gold colored lettering in selected areas on the HTR receiver series. However, both the RX-V line and the HTR line feature high quality front panel construction.

The amplifiers in the HTR and RX-V units are identical but rated differently to comply with the accepted measurement standards of their respective channels of distribution. Both ratings are FTC approved and are designed to handle the dynamics of today's audio and video sources. The RX-V line has the power amplifiers rated from 20-20000 Hz. The HTR line has the power amplifiers rated at 1000 Hz. Both lines can reproduce the full frequency response of 20-20000 Hz.

The RX-V line is typically sold through Yamaha authorized audio/video specialty retailers, and is not available for mail order sales, phone sales, or internet sales.

The HTR line is sold through mass merchants, catalog retailers, and department stores. You may also purchase the HTR line through the mail, by phone, or at authorized internet retailers.

All transactions must be done through the authorized Yamaha dealer network. Any purchase made from an unauthorized dealer/retailer voids the Yamaha manufacturer's warranty.


-]http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/receivers/receiver_main.htm (http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/receivers/receiver_main.htm[/b)

I think the HTR5730 is the same as the RX-V350.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Nov 03, 2005 at 08:39 AM
Yamaha does name their models differently depending on the area or region of distribution, the HTRs usually are distributed in the Americas and Europe, the RXVs usually in Asian areas, the DSPs usually in Japan. The HTRs usually make Zone 2 amplification a standard. The DSPs and HTRs I often like better since they have better specs. Makes you feel like we usually get the rejects. Take the DSP-AX750 and the RX-V750 for example, they almost have the same exact specs, except the fact that the DSP-AX750 has a built in DV input and output. Also the RXV-430 and the DSP-AX430, the DSP edition has a higher power rating. It's like they're saying, "Pilipinas lang naman yan e, okay lang yan!".  :P
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 03, 2005 at 03:08 PM
The RX-V line has the power amplifiers rated from 20-20000 Hz. The HTR line has the power amplifiers rated at 1000 Hz.
The RX-V line is typically sold through Yamaha authorized audio/video specialty retailers, and is not available for mail order sales, phone sales, or internet sales.

The HTR line is sold through mass merchants, catalog retailers, and department stores. You may also purchase the HTR line through the mail, by phone, or at authorized internet retailers.


Based on the above explanation, the HTR line caters to a market that is easily impressed with large numbers.  Rating the power at 1khz yields a much larger power figure than rating from 20hz to 20khz, for the same power amp. The HTR line, because it can be purchased through mass merchants, should be priced less compared with its identical RX-V counterpart.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 03, 2005 at 03:17 PM
I wonder if the HTR's will be made available in Anson's, Abensons, etc. Better chances of 0%, 12 mos to pay ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jdg on Nov 06, 2005 at 04:52 PM
ano ba pinakamurang avr ng yamaha?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 06, 2005 at 05:44 PM
ano ba pinakamurang avr ng yamaha?

That would be the RX-V350 (HTR-5730, if you can find one).
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jdg on Nov 06, 2005 at 06:28 PM
That would be the RX-V350 (HTR-5730, if you can find one).

magkano yung ganyang model and same din ba yan sa RX-V357?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: danrd on Nov 06, 2005 at 09:32 PM
Got my RXV-350 at Audioworld last Dec. at P13,500. I believe tumaas lang konti these days. Not sure how much though. It's a perfect avr for anyone with a medium room as mine.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 07, 2005 at 08:46 AM
magkano yung ganyang model and same din ba yan sa RX-V357?

The RX-Vx57's are the new models. They replaced the RX-Vx50's.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: d00dZ on Nov 07, 2005 at 05:53 PM
The RX-Vx57's are the new models. They replaced the RX-Vx50's.

The significant difference between the x57s and the x50s is only internet radio, which most of us x50 owners don't really care that much about.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jdg on Nov 07, 2005 at 07:15 PM
The significant difference between the x57s and the x50s is only internet radio, which most of us x50 owners don't really care that much about.  ;D

and component video inputs.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Nov 08, 2005 at 09:03 AM
and component video inputs.

In a purist's point of view, still not neccessary since it's still best to connect video signals directly to the source, to minimize losses. But that's just me.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 08, 2005 at 09:32 AM
The significant difference between the x57s and the x50s is only internet radio, which most of us x50 owners don't really care that much about.  ;D

Is it internet radio?  or digital radio?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 08, 2005 at 09:38 AM
Is it internet radio? or digital radio?

XM Sattelite Radio (http://www.xmradio.com/learn/index.jsp)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Nov 08, 2005 at 09:45 AM
It has XM radio. A Sattelite Radio Service from the US. XM sattelite radio features over 150 digital channels. It offers 100% commercial-free music, over 30 channels of news, sports, talk and entertainment, over 20 dedicated channels of XM Instant Traffic & Weather, and a playlist of over 2 million titles.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 08, 2005 at 11:16 AM
That's also what I read.  It's not internet radio, but satelite based digital radio. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Nov 08, 2005 at 12:54 PM
Not much use to me, though.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 08, 2005 at 01:35 PM
Yup, not much use here sa pinas.  But based on feedbacks I got from friends in the US, the radio audio is CD quality.  I think satellite radio will eventually become standard feature in all receivers.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: leomar on Nov 08, 2005 at 02:18 PM
kumbaga high tech na tuner  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Jason_10 on Nov 08, 2005 at 02:46 PM
In a purist's point of view, still not neccessary since it's still best to connect video signals directly to the source, to minimize losses. But that's just me.  ;D

sakin naman i like this feature of my new 450. it enables me to connect my ps2 and dvd to the dvd input of my tv. hassle lang coz im using 2 av inputs on my tv ( a/v and component input). 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Nov 09, 2005 at 10:04 AM
sakin naman i like this feature of my new 450. it enables me to connect my ps2 and dvd to the dvd input of my tv. hassle lang coz im using 2 av inputs on my tv ( a/v and component input). 

Yeah, it is convenient for those with tvs that only have a single component video input. But not much use to those who have tvs that have multiple component video input. One more reason to get surplus tvs.  :)
Title: LOOKING FOR A YAMAHA RECEIVER!!!
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Nov 09, 2005 at 09:09 PM
Hi Guys,

I'm planning to buy a Yamaha reciever  this Dec. 05'. My budget is 20T cash. I need advice, whats the best model of Yamaha in the market today na 20T. I'm very particular in receiver's power ratings vs. decoding, but if anybody here is planning to sell a 2nd Yamaha receiver, I'm willing to take consideration, particularly RX-V995 or higher, basta in good condition at wala repairs.
 
Thank's       
Title: Re: LOOKING FOR A YAMAHA RECEIVER!!!
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 09, 2005 at 09:19 PM
RX-V750.
Title: Re: LOOKING FOR A YAMAHA RECEIVER!!!
Post by: BayagMan on Nov 10, 2005 at 12:10 AM
meron ako RXV 450 12k lng sept ko lng binile pero kung ako syo kukuha na ko ng mas mataas kaya nga binibenta ko yamaha ko ngayon nyahahahahahaha
Title: Re: LOOKING FOR A YAMAHA RECEIVER!!!
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Nov 10, 2005 at 01:07 AM
RX-V750.

Thanks Bumblebee!

By the way, saan bang store makukuha ang pinaka cheap nito? yung good supplier ha? sana may stocks pa sa Dec., may threads ba rito pertaining to RX-V750? need help...

Thanks ulit! 
 
Title: Re: LOOKING FOR A YAMAHA RECEIVER!!!
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 10, 2005 at 09:00 AM
Listening in Style, Shangrila
Listening Room, Megamall
Electronics Depot, Galleria/Ermita
Ambassador, Shangrila
Spectra, Park Square 1
The Home Theater, Tordesillas, Makati

I'm sure marami pa.

Kung san ka malapit :)
Title: Re: LOOKING FOR A YAMAHA RECEIVER!!!
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Nov 10, 2005 at 11:46 AM
Listening in Style, Shangrila
Listening Room, Megamall
Electronics Depot, Galleria/Ermita
Ambassador, Shangrila
Spectra, Park Square 1
The Home Theater, Tordesillas, Makati

I'm sure marami pa.

Kung san ka malapit :)

Thanks Bro,

Maganda ba talaga ang performance ang Yamaha RX-V750 vs. others under the same category and price range?

Thanks ulit! 
Title: Re: LOOKING FOR A YAMAHA RECEIVER!!!
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 10, 2005 at 11:59 AM
Thanks Bro,

Maganda ba talaga ang performance ang Yamaha RX-V750 vs. others under the same category and price range?

Thanks ulit! 

My 750 recommendation is based on your initial requirements (a 20T Yamaha) ;D

Anyway, my experience w/ receivers is limited to auditioning as I'm into stereo. But the Yamaha is well-built, have great features and is very convenient to setup.
Title: Re: LOOKING FOR A YAMAHA RECEIVER!!!
Post by: jhunB! on Nov 10, 2005 at 04:06 PM
mga bro!!... magandang araw sa inyo ulit.... may tanong lang me, my contact number ba kau ng "The HOME THEATER"??
nu ba landline nun at ska sn ba exact location nun??... Baka kasi mas mura yung equipments nila eh.... many tnx ulit!!!
Title: Re: LOOKING FOR A YAMAHA RECEIVER!!!
Post by: arthurallanj on Nov 11, 2005 at 08:10 AM
Thanks Bro,

Maganda ba talaga ang performance ang Yamaha RX-V750 vs. others under the same category and price range?

Thanks ulit! 

It has been popular knowledge that when it comes to Home Theaters, Yamaha has always been at the top. And at this price range, I don't think may mahihingi ka pa. And to think you'd get a future proof receiver.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Jason_10 on Nov 11, 2005 at 09:23 AM
can you buy a separate yamaha learning remote?
Title: Re: LOOKING FOR A YAMAHA RECEIVER!!!
Post by: MAtZTER on Nov 11, 2005 at 10:00 AM
mga bro!!... magandang araw sa inyo ulit.... may tanong lang me, my contact number ba kau ng "The HOME THEATER"??
nu ba landline nun at ska sn ba exact location nun??... Baka kasi mas mura yung equipments nila eh.... many tnx ulit!!!

The Home Theater 8138443, 8125235

Look for Sonny
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Nov 11, 2005 at 10:42 AM
can you buy a separate yamaha learning remote?

Jasson at Audioworld once quoted me that the RX-V750 remote can be bought separately for $100 (US).
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Jason_10 on Nov 11, 2005 at 10:49 AM
Jasson at Audioworld once quoted me that the RX-V750 remote can be bought separately for $100 (US).

wow! :o  thanks! that's about 1/3 the price of my receiver. hehehe.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Nov 11, 2005 at 11:00 AM
wow! :o  thanks! that's about 1/3 the price of my receiver. hehehe.

Yeah, that's why it would be wise to go for the 750 instead of getting the 650 and buying the remote, I, myself planned that strategy once.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Nov 11, 2005 at 11:01 AM
Jasson at Audioworld once quoted me that the RX-V750 remote can be bought separately for $100 (US).

Why not try this (click) (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=43411.msg506435#msg506435) na lang. Touch Screen na with awesome finish pa!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dulber32 on Nov 14, 2005 at 01:10 AM
I'm interested in upgrading...
I'm looking at the RX-V750 & RX-V650. I can't find any difference between the two except power output.
I'm not concerned about that. I've read there's a phono input on the RX-V750 but I've no use of that.
The question is... for the "minimal" spec difference of the two isn't the RX-V650 a better bang for my peso ???
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: watson's box on Nov 14, 2005 at 01:58 AM
I'm interested in upgrading...
I'm looking at the RX-V750 & RX-V650. I can't find any difference between the two except power output.
I'm not concerned about that. I've read there's a phono input on the RX-V750 but I've no use of that.
The question is... for the "minimal" spec difference of the two isn't the RX-V650 a better bang for my peso ???

There is really a little difference between the 650 and the 750. In fact, i think ung remotes lang ung iba. The power outputs, well the little difference there would not be that significant since the 650 by itself would be enough to satisfy ur demand for power. (as in my case) The question is rather would you want to have a silver or gold colored amp. The 650 costs p500 less i think...and is more recognized with the awards it won. (check the yamaha site for this)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Nov 14, 2005 at 08:45 AM
I'm interested in upgrading...
I'm looking at the RX-V750 & RX-V650. I can't find any difference between the two except power output.
I'm not concerned about that. I've read there's a phono input on the RX-V750 but I've no use of that.
The question is... for the "minimal" spec difference of the two isn't the RX-V650 a better bang for my peso ???

Believe me, bro, I went through the same deliberation. I ended up with the 650. The only thing that I want that the 750 has is the learning remote, not the 5-watt power difference, not the component video upconversion. Now, the only question that remains is: Do you think the price difference is worth the remote? I'll leave that to you. Ingat, bro.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gaol on Nov 14, 2005 at 10:01 AM
I'm interested in upgrading...
I'm looking at the RX-V750 & RX-V650. I can't find any difference between the two except power output.
I'm not concerned about that. I've read there's a phono input on the RX-V750 but I've no use of that.
The question is... for the "minimal" spec difference of the two isn't the RX-V650 a better bang for my peso ???

Aside from the remote, color, and 5wpc difference, the rx-v750 also has component video up-conversion, that is, your video input via composite and s-video input can be upconverted into a component video signal and outputted as such. Good feature if you want to route all your video thru the receiver and have just one component video out going to your tv.

When I bought my rx-v650 early this year, the price difference between the two was more than P5000. That's why I decided then it wasn't worth getting the rx-v750. Now that the price difference is only P1000 or even less (and yet you get all those extra features), I would get the 750.
 





Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Nov 14, 2005 at 10:20 AM
A price difference of 1000 pesos? I'd go for the 750 myself, if that's the case.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gaol on Nov 14, 2005 at 10:26 AM
A price difference of 1000 pesos? I'd go for the 750 myself, if that's the case.  ;D

Yup, if I'm not mistaken, the 650 is at P19K, and the 750 is now at P20K according to an earlier post.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dulber32 on Nov 14, 2005 at 10:57 AM
I better start scouting for prices, then. If the price difference is below 2K I'll go for the 750.
I'll update once I get hold of the current selling prices. Sana may sale pa na kasama ang mga ito by late December.
Thank you very much for all the input  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: d00dZ on Nov 14, 2005 at 02:21 PM
Share ko lang, while I'm happy with my 650, I could've been more delighted if I stretched for the 750 instead. Ngayon ko lang feel yung itch na hindi learning yung remote ko, plus now that I have a component-capable display (dati kasi s-video lang masaya na ako), the 750 would have given me more flexibility.

May OSD ba 750 sa component? Sa 650 kasi S-video at composite lang yung OSD. That could be one more significant difference.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JFBagadiong on Nov 14, 2005 at 02:55 PM
Hello folks I’m a newbie, Sir bumblebee and aHobbit routed me to here.

I’m  a seafarer and right now I’m still here in Amsterdam. Naka daily dock yung cruise ship namin so I have ample time scouting for my HT speakers. I’m eyeing this B&W DM303 which is on sale here, cost only 300 euro. but according to sir bumblebee its better to buy there in Manila coz its much cheaper at may warranty pa.

My friend will be selling me his YAMAHA RXV995 for Php 20k.neg. he will be downgrading to RXV750. According to him too much power ang RXV995 dahil na damage nito ang Definitive Tech Pro 80 niya. He hooked it up with L/C/R only walang surrounds, the receiver is around 3 years old and in really good condition, maingat naman yung friend ko. but Sir bumblebee told me the price is too high for a 2nd hand receiver, Php 20k is already a brand new receiver. I even saw one thread here 2nd hand RXV995 for only Php12k na lang, totoo ba yun? Can you advice me on how much will the RXV995 be price at? Baka matawaran ko pa yung friend ko hehehe!

Is the RXV750 really good? please enlighten me...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 14, 2005 at 03:02 PM
...
According to him too much power ang RXV995 dahil na damage nito ang Definitive Tech Pro 80 niya.
...

It's likely that the amp clipped (pushed too hard beyond it's capability) so the speakers got damaged. Underpowered amps are more likely to damage a speaker than more powerful ones.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Nov 14, 2005 at 03:09 PM
Share ko lang din  :). I had a Yammy 650 a few months ago. I was actually happy with it but I wanted more in terms of audio. So I tried a HK 630. It really put a dent to my pocket but the audio was really awesome! BUT, in terms of HT, IMHO, Yammy still shines by a bit. HK was an excellent compromise of good HT and good music, but it still didnt have the kick of a yamaha HT or the kick of a tube amp audio setup.

So IMO, the best way to go in my case was that I should have gotten 2 setups with what I paid for the HK. 1 setup uses Yamaha 750 or 1500 connected to my bookshelf speakers, for HT. And then the next would be an entry-level  integrated tube amp setup connected to my floorstanders for great audio.

This way I get the best of both worlds. Tama si Masta Hans Adrianne, 2 separate setups would be the best way to enjoy the best of audio and HT.

SO go for the 750!


Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: oweidah on Nov 14, 2005 at 03:32 PM
sir... anybody got info if yamaha still produces / markets DSP amplifier (center and surrounds) only? around 1998 meron yata yamaha DSP-E492. @ present i use yammy rxv596 front channel pre-out hooked up to nadc320bee main-out. this is a compromise instead of separate HT/audio setup... :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 14, 2005 at 03:39 PM
sir... anybody got info whether yamaha still produces / markets DSP amplifier (center and surrounds) only? around 1998 meron yata yamaha DSP-E492. @ present i use yammy rxv596 front channel pre-out hooked up to nadc320bee main-out. this is a compromise instead of separate HT/audio setup... :)

Hi awadeh.

You mean you're not using the NAD's preamp section? It's my understanding kc that the preamp affects the sound more than the amp.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ricky on Nov 14, 2005 at 03:42 PM
Share ko lang din  :). I had a Yammy 650 a few months ago. I was actually happy with it but I wanted more in terms of audio. So I tried a HK 630. It really put a dent to my pocket but the audio was really awesome! BUT, in terms of HT, IMHO, Yammy still shines by a bit. HK was an excellent compromise of good HT and good music, but it still didnt have the kick of a yamaha HT or the kick of a tube amp audio setup.

So IMO, the best way to go in my case was that I should have gotten 2 setups with what I paid for the HK. 1 setup uses Yamaha 750 or 1500 connected to my bookshelf speakers, for HT. And then the next would be an entry-level  integrated tube amp setup connected to my floorstanders for great audio.

This way I get the best of both worlds. Tama si Masta Hans Adrianne, 2 separate setups would be the best way to enjoy the best of audio and HT.

SO go for the 750!




Ganda talaga yammy for ht thats why i still have my rxv850 for a long time na. ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: oweidah on Nov 14, 2005 at 03:46 PM
Hi awadeh.
You mean you're not using the NAD's preamp section? It's my understanding kc that the preamp affects the sound more than the amp.
bumblebee, i dont use nad-preamp section. bale yammy =frontchannel preamp out connected to nad main-in. yammy functions as amp for center/surrounds and as preamp/processor. oks naman sound quality-both HT and audio.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: voj on Nov 14, 2005 at 05:07 PM
Hello folks I’m a newbie, Sir bumblebee and aHobbit routed me to here.

I’m  a seafarer and right now I’m still here in Amsterdam. Naka daily dock yung cruise ship namin so I have ample time scouting for my HT speakers. I’m eyeing this B&W DM303 which is on sale here, cost only 300 euro. but according to sir bumblebee its better to buy there in Manila coz its much cheaper at may warranty pa.

My friend will be selling me his YAMAHA RXV995 for Php 20k.neg. he will be downgrading to RXV750. According to him too much power ang RXV995 dahil na damage nito ang Definitive Tech Pro 80 niya. He hooked it up with L/C/R only walang surrounds, the receiver is around 3 years old and in really good condition, maingat naman yung friend ko. but Sir bumblebee told me the price is too high for a 2nd hand receiver, Php 20k is already a brand new receiver. I even saw one thread here 2nd hand RXV995 for only Php12k na lang, totoo ba yun? Can you advice me on how much will the RXV995 be price at? Baka matawaran ko pa yung friend ko hehehe!

Is the RXV750 really good? please enlighten me...


I think your "friend" is not downgrading.  Though the RXV750 may be lower in power rating than the RXV995, it is a newer model with lots of additional features (995 is only 5.1 while 750 is 7.1 for starters).  I had the pleasure of owning an RXV995 which I bought second hand for 14k, but that was years ago.  I'm now using an RXV2200 which I have for quite a while already also
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Nov 15, 2005 at 09:52 AM
Share ko lang, while I'm happy with my 650, I could've been more delighted if I stretched for the 750 instead. Ngayon ko lang feel yung itch na hindi learning yung remote ko, plus now that I have a component-capable display (dati kasi s-video lang masaya na ako), the 750 would have given me more flexibility.

May OSD ba 750 sa component? Sa 650 kasi S-video at composite lang yung OSD. That could be one more significant difference.  ;)

We got the same dilemma. But the time I bought my 650, there was a price difference of about 6~7K, kaya my pocket was still my master. The learning remote is mainly my regret, Yamaha remotes are great, so it would have been even better if my remote had learning capabilites, but other than that. None na. I still connect my video sources directly to my TV, which to me is still the best way to go. I use my OSD via S-video lang to calibrate, but it doesn't seem neccesary when I actually watch movies using component outputs.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JFBagadiong on Nov 15, 2005 at 01:36 PM
Folks, I need your opinion, is this a good deal? 2nd hand YAMAHA RXV995 for Php. 15T to 12T. try ko lang i-bargain yung friend ko for that receiver, hehehe! sana pumayag, he originally quoted me Php. 20T, but if it goes higher than Php. 15T should I go for the brand new?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ricky on Nov 15, 2005 at 01:41 PM
Folks, I need your opinion, is this a good deal? 2nd hand YAMAHA RXV995 for Php. 15T to 12T. try ko lang i-bargain yung friend ko for that receiver, hehehe! sana pumayag, he originally quoted me Php. 20T, but if it goes higher than Php. 15T should I go for the brand new?


Bro IMHO i think you have the money naman so better get the latest and brand new unit considering na small price difference lang naman ang pinaguusapan,may warranty ka pa. ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Nov 15, 2005 at 03:44 PM
Folks, I need your opinion, is this a good deal? 2nd hand YAMAHA RXV995 for Php. 15T to 12T. try ko lang i-bargain yung friend ko for that receiver, hehehe! sana pumayag, he originally quoted me Php. 20T, but if it goes higher than Php. 15T should I go for the brand new?

At 15K, I'd go for a 450. Heck, I'd still opt for even a 440. Add a few thousand more, you can get a 650. Just me, though.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Assassin101 on Nov 15, 2005 at 06:11 PM
hi guys! just a newbie here. i'm planning to buy a receiver but i'm note sure if i'll be getting a yamaha 650 or the HK 235. can u give me some inputs. and if ever i go for yamaha where can i get the 650 or even the 750?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 15, 2005 at 09:30 PM
hi guys! just a newbie here. i'm planning to buy a receiver but i'm note sure if i'll be getting a yamaha 650 or the HK 235. can u give me some inputs. and if ever i go for yamaha where can i get the 650 or even the 750?

I'd pick the Yamaha 750. Try the ff stores:

Listening in Style, Shangrila
Listening Room, Megamall
Ambassador, Shangrila
Audioworld, Banawe
Spectra, Park Square 1
Electronics Depot, Galleria/Ermita

They're almost everywhere.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: powershort on Nov 15, 2005 at 11:13 PM
Hello mga sirs,

     Ano ba difference nang yamaha rx-v450 at yung rx-v457? xm radio?

Thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 16, 2005 at 07:23 AM
Hello mga sirs,

     Ano ba difference nang yamaha rx-v450 at yung rx-v457? xm radio?

Thanks

Yes.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Assassin101 on Nov 16, 2005 at 09:17 AM
I'd pick the Yamaha 750. Try the ff stores:

Listening in Style, Shangrila
Listening Room, Megamall
Ambassador, Shangrila
Audioworld, Banawe
Spectra, Park Square 1
Electronics Depot, Galleria/Ermita

They're almost everywhere.

do u have an idea on the price of the 750? and which ispeaker is better, wharfedale diamond 9 series speaker or gale? due to budget constraint...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 16, 2005 at 09:18 AM
The 750 is about 20k. I'd get the Wharfedale's.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: d00dZ on Nov 16, 2005 at 09:59 AM
do u have an idea on the price of the 750? and which ispeaker is better, wharfedale diamond 9 series speaker or gale? due to budget constraint...

Wharfedales with yammy x50s swakto for HT.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: eagumban on Nov 16, 2005 at 10:57 AM
do u have an idea on the price of the 750? and which ispeaker is better, wharfedale diamond 9 series speaker or gale? due to budget constraint...

I also paired Yamaha and Diamond 9's, no regrets. ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Assassin101 on Nov 16, 2005 at 02:06 PM
hi guys! just a newbie here. i'm planning to buy a receiver but i'm note sure if i'll be getting a yamaha 650 or the HK 235. can u give me some inputs. and if ever i go for yamaha where can i get the 650 or even the 750?

went to spectra to check the price of the 750... wala na sila stock dun. btw thanks for ur inputs....
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Jason_10 on Nov 17, 2005 at 12:49 AM
I also paired Yamaha and Diamond 9's, no regrets. ;) ;) ;)

i also have a yamaha-wharfdale pair. very good combination. sakto pa sa budget.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jerix on Nov 21, 2005 at 12:09 PM
whats the reason why they say that Yamaha is the best for HT ?  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Nov 21, 2005 at 01:50 PM
whats the reason why they say that Yamaha is the best for HT ?  ;)


IMO, I think its the quad field DSP that does the trick. Its supposed to envelop your HT like its one big room or something, at least thats what the brochures say. I couldnt point out myself what the difference was, but when I was using my HK, there was just something missing. The HT was good, but not as good as Yamaha. (But in HK's defense, the audio was awesome compared to Yammy.)   :)

 I do not think that I was biased (from reading the threads here) cuz I was surprised when my friend who also bought a HK with me also noticed the same thing, and he doesnt visit pinoydvd at all.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Nov 21, 2005 at 02:12 PM
whats the reason why they say that Yamaha is the best for HT ?  ;)

As far as I know, Yamaha has that reputation because of the satisfaction that product users have had over the years. Not just because of quality but also of price and performance. And of course, the awards they get, too. But I think the reason why they've become the leader in HT is the fact that they were one of the pioneers in DSP technology. Right after Dolby Laboratories came up with Pro-Logic, Yamaha had they're own research and development team. Yamaha, in a true Japanese fashion, developed their own DSP technology. This is now known as Yamaha CinemaDSP. This is not only compatible with Dolby and DTS formats but also enhances it. Resulting in extraordinary reproduction. It can also work on it's own with multi-channel sources. Some have tried to follow suit, like SRS' Circle Surround, Harman Kardon's Logic 7, etc., but Yamaha seemed to be the most successful of all these "in-house formats". So, in my opinion, that is why they've always been a force to reckon with.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jerix on Nov 21, 2005 at 02:58 PM
Bro Matz, Arthur tnx for the respnse, just curious about the absence of any debate or contrary opinion whenever one says Yamaha is best for HT. Yeah maybe their DSP made them that excellent image in the area of HT, but had that not become obsolete due to the intro of the ES and EX options in the HT arena?

I myself no longer use the different sound field options of my receiver anymore -- i just select the the DD 5.1 or DTS 5.1 whichever is available when i watch DVDs. ;)

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: saltuhin on Nov 21, 2005 at 08:43 PM
question lang po.  good upgrade po ba from rxv 440 to rxv 750?  right now my inclination would be on audio.  in terms of power, would there be much difference?  how about musicality?  replies would be highly appreciated. tnanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dulber32 on Nov 21, 2005 at 09:27 PM
Yeah maybe their DSP made them that excellent image in the area of HT, but had that not become obsolete due to the intro of the ES and EX options in the HT arena?

Aren't ES (DTS) & EX (DD) format extensions ???
Wouldn't the DSP work with those formats to enhance the output?


Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JFBagadiong on Nov 21, 2005 at 11:03 PM
Mga sir is it true walang decoding ng ex or es just an extention of 5.1?

so yung dalawang extra surrounds back ng 7.1 are just extensions of surrounds ng 5.1?

 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Jason_10 on Nov 21, 2005 at 11:08 PM
Mga sir is it true walang decoding ng ex or es just an extention of 5.1?

so yung dalawang extra surrounds back ng 7.1 are just extensions of surrounds ng 5.1?

 

afaik.it depends on the software/dvd. if its encoded with dd ex, the surround back is discrete. but you can also enjoy 6.1 from a 5.1 softare by using the dd ex matrix found on the receiver. although the surround back is no longer discrete. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 22, 2005 at 07:19 AM
The 6th channel info in DD EX is just a matrix from the RL and RF. When used w/ a 6.1 receiver, the channel will be discrete but the info is not.

DTS-ES's 6th channel is the only real discrete 6th channel.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Nov 22, 2005 at 11:45 AM
Yeah maybe their DSP made them that excellent image in the area of HT, but had that not become obsolete due to the intro of the ES and EX options in the HT arena?


That's why they introduced Quad-Field Cinema DSP. They formerly only had Tri-Field Cinema DSP. Try any DD or DTS format with CinemaDSP enhancement. Believe me, There is an audible difference. Me? I usually use DTS and enhance it with the Spectacle DSP mode of Yamaha. The soundstage is audibly wider.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mheloy on Nov 22, 2005 at 03:27 PM
I'm in the middle of choosing 650 and 1905.
I'm more of HT... sabi nila pag HT Yamaha na agad pero nung pina-kinggan ko yung 1905 parang mas maganda though kuntento na ako sa 650 and mas mura 650.

any suggestions?

thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Platinum on Nov 22, 2005 at 03:40 PM
sir mheloy,
pls check my pm. thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mheloy on Nov 22, 2005 at 04:02 PM
sir mheloy,
pls check my pm. thanks

tnx
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: paolorenzo on Nov 30, 2005 at 10:47 AM
Bad trip.  RX-V750 is no longer available anywhere!  :'(  But the RX-Vx57 series has arrived!  Wala nang 7 series, so hanggang 657 lang meron.  It's the same features with the RX-V750, except for the learning remote.   :'(

Rough prices for the new series is:

You can get it slightly cheaper in other stores.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: chatstix on Nov 30, 2005 at 10:53 AM
Rough prices for the new series is:
  • RX-V557 (6.1, component up conversion) -- P20k
  • RX-V657 (7.1, component up conversion, YPAO mic) -- P24.5k

You can get it slightly cheaper in other stores.

Sir, baka naman puwede mo post dito or pm sa akin yung  'other stores' that sells these models cheaper. thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 30, 2005 at 10:55 AM
Bad trip.  RX-V750 is no longer available anywhere!  :'(  But the RX-Vx57 series has arrived!  Wala nang 7 series, so hanggang 657 lang meron.  It's the same features with the RX-V750, except for the learning remote.   :'(

Rough prices for the new series is:
  • RX-V557 (6.1, component up conversion) -- P20k
  • RX-V657 (7.1, component up conversion, YPAO mic) -- P24.5k

You can get it slightly cheaper in other stores.

Wait for the next models (x58's?). Baka bumaba to 20k yung 657.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: paolorenzo on Nov 30, 2005 at 11:01 AM
Wait for the next models (x58's?). Baka bumaba to 20k yung 657.

Pero the x57's just got out...  As in first sale lang yata sa akin nung 557 (same for 657).  Although I think they've had the 357 for some time already...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 30, 2005 at 11:05 AM
Pero the x57's just got out...  As in first sale lang yata sa akin nung 557 (same for 657).  Although I think they've had the 357 for some time already...

First Q this year, bumaba yung mga x50's. Hopefully, 2nd Q next year yung x57's naman.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Stoned Wall on Nov 30, 2005 at 02:59 PM
Bad trip.  RX-V750 is no longer available anywhere!  :'(  But the RX-Vx57 series has arrived!  Wala nang 7 series, so hanggang 657 lang meron.  It's the same features with the RX-V750, except for the learning remote.   :'(

Rough prices for the new series is:
  • RX-V557 (6.1, component up conversion) -- P20k
  • RX-V657 (7.1, component up conversion, YPAO mic) -- P24.5k

You can get it slightly cheaper in other stores.

Sir Pao, check out Ambassador appliance in Shangri-la Mall (2nd flr.). I saw a display of the Yammy RX-V750 last week. Not too sure of the price. Mga Php22k yata. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Nov 30, 2005 at 07:30 PM
Just came from Listening Shang. Meron pa raw 1 unit ng 750, but at P24k
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JFBagadiong on Nov 30, 2005 at 08:23 PM
HT fans, haven’t you noticed how fast Yamaha change its model? Yamaha is becoming a trend setter regarding HT receiver’s, very similar to a cell phone “Nokia”, I’m beginning to think this is one way to maintain their marketing price level for receivers.     
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gaol on Nov 30, 2005 at 09:17 PM
HT fans, haven’t you noticed how fast Yamaha change its model? Yamaha is becoming a trend setter regarding HT receiver’s, very similar to a cell phone “Nokia”, I’m beginning to think this is one way to maintain their marketing price level for receivers.     

Actually, it's not just yamaha, but all the major players (denon, harman kardon, marantz, etc) update their receiver line-up yearly, in order to keep their offerings fresh in relation to the competition.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JFBagadiong on Nov 30, 2005 at 10:32 PM
Actually, it's not just yamaha, but all the major players (denon, harman kardon, marantz, etc) update their receiver line-up yearly, in order to keep their offerings fresh in relation to the competition.


Hay! ang hirap tuloy mag target for a certain Yammy model receiver. type ko pa naman yan RXV750 kaso mukhang hindi ko na aabutan when I arrive from Europe this Dec.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: paolorenzo on Dec 01, 2005 at 02:37 PM
Sir Pao, check out Ambassador appliance in Shangri-la Mall (2nd flr.). I saw a display of the Yammy RX-V750 last week. Not too sure of the price. Mga Php22k yata. Hope this helps.

Dun nga ako bumili.  Ubos na yung RX-V750!   :'(  Got a RX-V657 for 24k.  I just bought a universal remote MX-350 (http://www.universalremote.com/products/index.php?item=mx350) from eBay, to make up for the non-learning remote of the 657.

Just came from Listening Shang. Meron pa raw 1 unit ng 750, but at P24k

Yup, actually naabutan ko pa ito.  But I don't like how they do business.  They take advantage of the consumers.  Knowing that demand is high (and Christmas is around the corner), they pad their prices.  Sobrang sungit pa nung nasa counter, hindi mapaki-usapan.   >:(  I know they have all the right to this, but I just don't like their sales strategy...

FYI, I was quoted by their Mega store for the Panasonic TH-42PWD7E for only 105k (unit and wall bracket only)!  :o  When I came back a few weeks later, ubos na raw.   But I was in Shang just the day before, and saw about 20+ boxed units freshly delivered.  Until last weekend, I still saw several boxed units available.  And Shang is now selling them for 136k, unit only!  >:(  Foul play...   I'll just wait until Christmas is over, and demand subsides.  Baka available na rin yung 8th gen units by that time.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Dec 01, 2005 at 03:51 PM
Dun nga ako bumili.  Ubos na yung RX-V750!   :'(  Got a RX-V657 for 24k.  I just bought a universal remote MX-350 (http://www.universalremote.com/products/index.php?item=mx350) from eBay, to make up for the non-learning remote of the 657.

Yup, actually naabutan ko pa ito.  But I don't like how they do business.  They take advantage of the consumers.  Knowing that demand is high (and Christmas is around the corner), they pad their prices.  Sobrang sungit pa nung nasa counter, hindi mapaki-usapan.   >:(  I know they have all the right to this, but I just don't like their sales strategy...

FYI, I was quoted by their Mega store for the Panasonic TH-42PWD7E for only 105k (unit and wall bracket only)!  :o  When I came back a few weeks later, ubos na raw.   But I was in Shang just the day before, and saw about 20+ boxed units freshly delivered.  Until last weekend, I still saw several boxed units available.  And Shang is now selling them for 136k, unit only!  >:(  Foul play...   I'll just wait until Christmas is over, and demand subsides.  Baka available na rin yung 8th gen units by that time.

Sayang, there was so many 750 on sale a few months ago. Oh well, that practice is quite normal. They jack up the prices of flowers on Valentine's day and we still buy. You never know, it might be their supplier who brought the prices up.

I know the people there and they are friendly to me naman. I got my 650 from them this year and a 50" TV a year ago.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Abad Santos 7 on Dec 05, 2005 at 04:05 PM

Yup, actually naabutan ko pa ito.  But I don't like how they do business.  They take advantage of the consumers.  Knowing that demand is high (and Christmas is around the corner), they pad their prices.  Sobrang sungit pa nung nasa counter, hindi mapaki-usapan.   >:(  I know they have all the right to this, but I just don't like their sales strategy...


I had same experience...cguro pangit cguro damit ko nung pumunta ako.  Same with Spectra in Makati "mas gusto pang
makipagkwentuhan rather than entertain ung buyer nila.  I ended up in AAudio.  The 1st time you enter their shops "You are already the "BOSS" regardless ng atire mo....

Sorry wrong trend yata....hehehe..peace... :) :) :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jeckjeck on Dec 05, 2005 at 06:24 PM
I had same experience...cguro pangit cguro damit ko nung pumunta ako.  Same with Spectra in Makati "mas gusto pang
makipagkwentuhan rather than entertain ung buyer nila.  I ended up in AAudio.  The 1st time you enter their shops "You are already the "BOSS" regardless ng atire mo....

Sorry wrong trend yata....hehehe..peace... :) :) :)

Me too... I got very poor service from Listening In Style before... in fact, that experience was one of my first posts here at Pinoydvd... Also had the same experience at another shop in Park Square... through Pinoydvd, the shop owner found out about it and called me to apologize... It's a good thing he did and that he was so nice... I was about to post my experience here...

Sorry OT also...  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: moks on Dec 05, 2005 at 09:27 PM
mas masama naman yung service sa denon inoorder pa sa abroad yung parts niya pag minalas ka mga 3-6 months bago dumating
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: atomicat10 on Dec 07, 2005 at 11:15 AM
Any owners of RX-V757's here. Pa review naman.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: danrd on Dec 07, 2005 at 11:35 AM
Anybody here who has diamond9.2 with 9cs and wh2 dipole surrounds on a Yamaha RX-V650? Reviews naman dyan. I'm planning to buy one kasi.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Dec 07, 2005 at 02:21 PM
Any owners of RX-V757's here. Pa review naman.

Its not out yet here. The highest model for now is 657
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: paolorenzo on Dec 07, 2005 at 02:26 PM
Its not out yet here. The highest model for now is 657

I'm not sure if the 757 will ever be distributed here officially.  When I looked at the Yamaha 2006 catalog in S&S Shang, the 757 wasn't even listed there.  657 was the highest model in the RX-Vx57 series.  I think that was the official HT catalog for Asia.  Those hoping to have the 757 might have to ship them in themselves?  I hope I'm wrong though...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: atomicat10 on Dec 07, 2005 at 06:49 PM
It's out already at least according to Home Theater. Got also the price from that store.

FYI the X3 teaser trailer is also out already.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: moks on Dec 08, 2005 at 10:18 AM
how much and indicative pricing ng 757?
Title: RX-V750 OSD Problem
Post by: chatstix on Dec 10, 2005 at 06:41 PM
Mga sirs, I have a friend who has a problem with the OSD display of his rx-v750. Para kasing PAL signal ang output sa tv niya. As in continuous ang pag-scroll sa tv screen nya.  Sa Harman Kardon kasi, ganito din but the solution sa HK is to hold the OSD button on the remote for about 3 secs.  Meron bang ganitong feature sa yamaha rx-v750 or meron diperensiya yun unit ng friend ko? Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Jason_10 on Dec 10, 2005 at 11:50 PM
try adjusting the tv system setup. baka naka pal mode yung tv.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: chatstix on Dec 11, 2005 at 01:30 PM
the tv is in ntsc mode. i'm sure of this coz i connect my xbox (ntsc output) there. tried connecting from the yammy rx-v750 rca, s-video and component out but still yields the same result.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: paolorenzo on Dec 12, 2005 at 11:22 AM
Has he tried it with another TV?  If it yields the same result, then yung 750 na talaga siguro.

Or try setting the TV to PAL format?  Kung umayos, that verifies that the AVR's OSD is PAL.

I had a similar problem with my Yammy DVD player noon.  It couldn't play a p****** disc, and seems to be outputting it in PAL format.  When I played the same disk on a Kebao, ok naman...  I know DVD players and AVR are totally different, pero baka meron similarities how Yamaha components are built?  Labo ko ba?  ???
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: chatstix on Dec 12, 2005 at 11:49 AM
thanks for the help. we just contacted yamaha service and they told that most of the 750 released here have their osd in pal format (i dunno if he's telling the truth). if we need it to have it converted, they will order the part and have my friends unit delivered to them to make the change free of charge.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: yygoob on Dec 12, 2005 at 07:54 PM
im planning to buy a secondhand yamaha rxv450 for 10t
my speakers are as follows:
wharfedale 9cs, 9dfs, atlantic 200

ok na ba to? thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Dec 13, 2005 at 09:05 AM
Bro yygoob,

I don't see why it shouldn't be. You've got a good set of speakers, a good amp, all you need is to set it up properly to maximize it. Heck, if you're happy with it.... ;)
Title: RX-V750 or RX-V657
Post by: jakz on Dec 13, 2005 at 09:49 AM
which one would you choose and why?
Title: Re: RX-V750 or RX-V657
Post by: paolorenzo on Dec 13, 2005 at 10:26 AM
which one would you choose and why?

I'd like to share chatstix's PM to me.  He's made some research, and came up with the below.  Thanks again chatstix...

Quote from: chatstix
Anyways, I did search the web for the difference of the Vx57 and Vx50 series:
- Constant-current relay drive circuit lowers the noise level of the ground line for higher sound quality in the low frequency range.
- Shutting off more power for unused circuit improves sound quality by lowering unnecessary power line noise.
- Employing a 32/64-bit floating point quantization process, the new CINEMA DSP LSI is designed to provide even higher sound quality, improved functions and greater ease of use.
- YPAO with Parametric Equalizer (the 750 doesn't have the parametric equalizer in its YPAO)
- Damping factor of the Vx57 is 120 as agains 100 of Vx50
- noise generated during the transmission from the digital to analog circuit has been reduced and noise that causes sound degradation in the analog circuit has also been reduced

...of course the 750's greatest strength over the 657 is the learning remote.   :(
Title: Re: RX-V750 or RX-V657
Post by: arthurallanj on Dec 14, 2005 at 08:38 AM
which one would you choose and why?

On the premise that the prices of both are similar, I'd get the 750. I find no use for the XM sat radio that the 657 has here in the Philippines. But I can do so much with a learning remote, especially a Yamaha remote which always had a good reputation for convenience and performance.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Dec 18, 2005 at 11:30 PM
mga Sir's need help,

Can someone advise on where I can buy YAMAHA DSP's receiver remote control?

I'm particularly looking for this model

*YAMAHA DSP-2000*

this is how it looks...

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/18122005001.jpg)

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/18122005002.jpg)

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/18122005003.jpg)

If ever, it is not available can I use a different Yammy remote for this receiver?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: moks on Dec 19, 2005 at 01:26 PM
guys,

i'm planning to upgrade my yammy rx-v440. i'm eyeing on between the rx-v650 or the denon 1906. can you guys help me decide on which one is better the 650 or the denon...galing kasi akong shangrila yesterday and i auditioned the denon parang mas maganda tunog ng denon sa ht compared sa yamaha?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Toquero on Dec 19, 2005 at 02:18 PM
guys,

i'm planning to upgrade my yammy rx-v440. i'm eyeing on between the rx-v650 or the denon 1906. can you guys help me decide on which one is better the 650 or the denon...galing kasi akong shangrila yesterday and i auditioned the denon parang mas maganda tunog ng denon sa ht compared sa yamaha?

considering  the 2 recievers belonging to mid level category, both perform well both on their respective areas. The 650 for HT and Denon for audio .That's actually the same scenario I've experienced when fishing for an upgrade for my yammy 440 during that time ;D  And the end result, I've chosen the Denon 1905 over  yammy 650 during that time (May' 05). Medyo maninibago ka talaga sa tunog niya sa HT movies dahil musical yung denon avr. And if I recall it right Sir av_phile one's said that avr that performs good in audio would definitely perform good on HT. ;) ;) Mas bilog ang tunog niya sa low frequency. BTW what speakers did you auditioned it with?...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jeckjeck on Dec 19, 2005 at 03:16 PM
guys,

i'm planning to upgrade my yammy rx-v440. i'm eyeing on between the rx-v650 or the denon 1906. can you guys help me decide on which one is better the 650 or the denon...galing kasi akong shangrila yesterday and i auditioned the denon parang mas maganda tunog ng denon sa ht compared sa yamaha?

I upgraded from a Yammy 530 to a Denon 1906 and I am very happy with my choice. From a purely age perspective, the Denon 1906 is the latest model from Denon while the 650 has been around for quite sometime and already has a successor - the 657. From a performance perspective, Denon also beat the ^%$%(* out of my old Yammy but of course, the model of my Yammy was released 2 or 3 years ago pa... You can read my in puts on the Denon in the Denon AVR thread...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: moks on Dec 19, 2005 at 03:50 PM
considering  the 2 recievers belonging to mid level category, both perform well both on their respective areas. The 650 for HT and Denon for audio .That's actually the same scenario I've experienced when fishing for an upgrade for my yammy 440 during that time ;D  And the end result, I've chosen the Denon 1905 over  yammy 650 during that time (May' 05). Medyo maninibago ka talaga sa tunog niya sa HT movies dahil musical yung denon avr. And if I recall it right Sir av_phile one's said that avr that performs good in audio would definitely perform good on HT. ;) ;) Mas bilog ang tunog niya sa low frequency. BTW what speakers did you auditioned it with?...

Sir,

B&W Speakers
Title: Re: Yamaha 650 vs Marantz 4500
Post by: ricracer on Dec 19, 2005 at 05:07 PM
I just browsed through the Marantz thread and I was quite impressed by the reviews by users of the 4500.  I'm actually thinking of buying also the Yamaha 650 (i found a store selling it at 19k), so I want to get feedbck from Yamaha users.

Medyo na-simplehan kasi ako doon sa Marantz, baka mas ok yung Yamaha with add'l 1.5K lang.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Toquero on Dec 20, 2005 at 07:25 AM
Sir,

B&W Speakers

It's really a best matchup...... and would really sound sweet... Pero para hindi O.T. tayo :D Yamaha is categorized as one of the bright recievers (matinis ba sa High frequency.. :D) so if you will pair it with a speaker using soft dome tweeters(wharfs, and the like), it would tame its brightness. B&W on the other , uses metal dome tweeters, medyo matinis but others may call it neutral in totality and Denon is mabilog ang tunog sa lower end frequency so just the same it compensate the highs . Just my 2 cents.. ;)

Bottom line, all recievers (yammy,marantz,Onkyo,Denon, Harman) will perform well with properly matched speakers........ ;)

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: yvesjae on Dec 20, 2005 at 09:29 AM
ano ba difference ng Yamaha RX-V400 sa RX-V457? Yung XM radio lang ba? Kasi ang laki ng price difference nila...almost 6K.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sanmig_ph on Dec 20, 2005 at 10:57 PM
guys,

i'm planning to upgrade my yammy rx-v440. i'm eyeing on between the rx-v650 or the denon 1906. can you guys help me decide on which one is better the 650 or the denon...galing kasi akong shangrila yesterday and i auditioned the denon parang mas maganda tunog ng denon sa ht compared sa yamaha?
bro na sars ka na pala sa AVR,ako tinitiis ko lang hindi mag upgrade pero nakakatukso talaga, kung pwde lang lahat ng brand meron ka para
hindi mahirap mag decide, pero try mo rin yung hk na brand i read from this thread na ok din cya,o kaya yung yamaha 750 ,denon din ive heard
analog devices dsp nya,product namin yan lol  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: moks on Dec 21, 2005 at 10:27 AM
bro na sars ka na pala sa AVR,ako tinitiis ko lang hindi mag upgrade pero nakakatukso talaga, kung pwde lang lahat ng brand meron ka para
hindi mahirap mag decide, pero try mo rin yung hk na brand i read from this thread na ok din cya,o kaya yung yamaha 750 ,denon din ive heard
analog devices dsp nya,product namin yan lol  ;D


ano analysis mo between the yamaha and the denon?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: alas6 on Dec 21, 2005 at 11:03 AM
mga sirs, question lang: how much na po ang going price ng 2nd hand na rx-v496 ngayon?  i haven't been up to speed on the prices and i'm planning to sell this later.  thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sanmig_ph on Dec 21, 2005 at 04:54 PM
ano analysis mo between the yamaha and the denon?
mas ok siguro yung 1906,gusto mo kay sir sonny tuazon yung diskarte ni jeck
alam ko nag deal sila dun sa denon kung hindi cya satisfied pwede nya ibalik for yamaha
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JT on Dec 21, 2005 at 05:10 PM
For me, Ok ang Denon sa mga bagong entry-level models.  Pero from mid-range onwards, parang pareho lang sila ng Yamaha.

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Dec 21, 2005 at 05:59 PM
Mga sir need help,

Saan kaya pede maka purchase ng Remotes for Yammy DSP amp models? specially Japanese AV amp...

Particularly for YAMAHA DSP-2000...

your response is highly appreciated!!! :)   
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: moks on Dec 22, 2005 at 08:11 AM
sanmigph,

bro...i'm selling my yamaha rx-v440 (silver color), complete with box and manuals. baka may buyer ka....i'm selling it for 12k (negotiable)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Dec 22, 2005 at 08:54 AM
ano ba difference ng Yamaha RX-V400 sa RX-V457? Yung XM radio lang ba? Kasi ang laki ng price difference nila...almost 6K.

Yes. And I don't think the price differenec is worth that.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Dec 22, 2005 at 08:58 AM
Mga sir need help,

Saan kaya pede maka purchase ng Remotes for Yammy DSP amp models? specially Japanese AV amp...

Particularly for YAMAHA DSP-2000...

your response is highly appreciated!!! :)   

Audioworld could order them for you, but at an expensive price. $100.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Assassin101 on Dec 22, 2005 at 09:10 AM
Hi guys! just bought my new receiver, i caonnected the speaker and was able to play a dvd movies. but when i tried using the tuner, there was no sound. i already connected the supplied antenna. can any body here help me? thanks! ??? ??? ::) ::)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: danrd on Dec 22, 2005 at 09:28 AM
Have you connected both am and fm antennas?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Assassin101 on Dec 22, 2005 at 10:14 AM
Have you connected both am and fm antennas?

yes, it's alredy picking up signals.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 22, 2005 at 10:22 AM
If as you said, you've connected the antena and is picking up signals, then there must already be sounds.  Are the sounds noisy or unlistenable? 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Assassin101 on Dec 22, 2005 at 10:50 AM
If as you said, you've connected the antena and is picking up signals, then there must already be sounds.  Are the sounds noisy or unlistenable? 

no sound at all. what i mean about picking up signal is that in the display the TUNED indicator lights up.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: boomjam on Dec 22, 2005 at 10:58 AM
I Think you have to set the receiver for the radio stations you want to listen to.  If the tuner is not set to a particular  station, all you will hear is static and or silence depending if your receiver has a mute on no signal.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Assassin101 on Dec 22, 2005 at 11:00 AM
I Think you have to set the receiver for the radio stations you want to listen to.  If the tuner is not set to a particular  station, all you will hear is static and or silence depending if your receiver has a mute on no signal.
huh... ofcourse it's tuned to a particular station.. duh...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Dec 22, 2005 at 11:04 AM
It may be in mute, since you said it's already tuned.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Assassin101 on Dec 22, 2005 at 11:06 AM
there's sound when in DVD mode but when i tried the built-in tuner not a single sound.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: classicman on Dec 23, 2005 at 10:13 AM
Yamaha HTR-5860 7.1 Digital Home Theater Receiver

(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0008F6KDI.01-A2763VQ7SN6URD._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg)

7.1-channel receiver offering 770W (110W x 7RMS), many exclusive Yamaha functions, including YPAO automatic optimization, Quad-field CINEMA DSP, XM Satellite Radio ready and Component Up conversion.

MSRP $549.95

High Sound Quality

7-Channel 770W Powerful Surround Sound (110W x 7)
Digital ToP-ART and High Current Amplification
Pure Direct for High Quality Sound Reproduction


Surround Realism

Dialogue Lift for Enhanced Dialogue Sound Output
Quad-Field CINEMA DSP and 14 Surround Programs
Night Listening Enhancer (Cinema/Music) and SILENT CINEMA


Advanced Facilities

XM Satellite Radio Ready
YPAO for Automatically Optimizing the Sound in Your Room
On-Screen Display
Surround Back Power-Amp Assignable (for Presence Channels) for the Ultimate Surround Sound System
8-Channel External Decoder Input


High Picture Quality

Component Video Up Conversion (Full)

HTR-5860 Features

    * Accurate Touch Volume Control
    * 192 kHz/24-Bit DAC for All Channels
    * Selectable 9-Band Subwoofer Crossover
    * Subwoofer Phase Select
    * Analog Mixdown
    * Straight/Effect Switch
    * Direct Stereo and 2-Channel Stereo Mode
    * High Dynamic Power and Linear Damping
    * Dolby Digital EX, DTS-ES, Dolby Pro LogicIIx and DTS 96/24 Compatibility
    * Wide-Range Audio Frequency Response for DVD-Audio/Super Audio CD
    * 9-Channel Speaker Terminals (incl. Presence Channels)
    * Surround Back Power-Amp Assignable (for Presence Channels)
    * 8-Channel External Decoder Input
    * Speaker A, B or A+B Selection (Front L/R)
    * Audio Delay for Lip Sync (0–160 ms)
    * Virtual CINEMA DSP
    * Wide-Range Video Bandwidth (60MHz -3dB)
    * HDTV Compatible Component Video Out
    * Preset Remote Control Unit
    * Sleep Timer
    * 40-Station Preset Tuning
    * Auto Preset Tuning


any thoughts on this baby (incidentally, this is for the north american market) ::)

 8)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Dec 23, 2005 at 08:01 PM
Audioworld could order them for you, but at an expensive price. $100.  :)

Thanks Sir,

After taking my friends advice, I started scouting at Pier for the remote of my Yamaha DSP-2000...

and guess what? I got this learning remote (Yamaha RCX-VP37340 remote controll transmitter) for only Php. 800!!!, see picture below...

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC00086.jpg)

for Php. 800 I'm a bit suprised, It is indeed original Yammy remote and has a complete remote function. I can now enjoy adjusting not only my DSP amp but also some of my audio/video gears... 

This really proves that... from time to time, Pier surplus shop does sometimes provide a good source...       
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ronjet on Dec 24, 2005 at 07:28 AM
congrats sir hanns!  to think that its A Learning Remote! ;) great buy! :) mapadaan nga uli dun minsan...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: keema on Dec 25, 2005 at 03:39 AM
mga sirs, question lang...kaya ba ng rxv 457 mag patunog ng floorstanders na speakers? meron ba sa inyong naka rxv457? anong floorstander speakers ang okay e-match dito? tyaka ilan ba dapat ang sensitivity at wattage ng speaker na pwedeng e-match rxv 457? last na question nalang...okay lang ba kung gumamit ako ng Y-connector kung gagamit ako ng 2 subs?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Dec 25, 2005 at 10:49 AM
mga sirs, question lang...kaya ba ng rxv 457 mag patunog ng floorstanders na speakers? meron ba sa inyong naka rxv457? anong floorstander speakers ang okay e-match dito? tyaka ilan ba dapat ang sensitivity at wattage ng speaker na pwedeng e-match rxv 457? last na question nalang...okay lang ba kung gumamit ako ng Y-connector kung gagamit ako ng 2 subs?

sir try mo yung DTX series or Euro 8's , local nga lang pero oks naman sa performance, your 457's can easily handdle it. using y connector for split subs is no problem parehas naman outgoing signals so no conflict... ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: keema on Dec 25, 2005 at 07:41 PM
sir try mo yung DTX series or Euro 8's , local nga lang pero oks naman sa performance, your 457's can easily handdle it. using y connector for split subs is no problem parehas naman outgoing signals so no conflict... ;)

ahh okay sir, so local lang na mga foorstanders ang kaya ng rxv457? pagdating sa mga wharfdale or gale na speakers, hindi na po ba nya kaya? pwede din po bang paki sabi kung anong klaseng model yung pwede...salamat....
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Dec 26, 2005 at 10:03 AM
ahh okay sir, so local lang na mga foorstanders ang kaya ng rxv457? pagdating sa mga wharfdale or gale na speakers, hindi na po ba nya kaya? pwede din po bang paki sabi kung anong klaseng model yung pwede...salamat....

Sir, kaya pa rin naman ang whafs or gale ng 457's mo, dynamic power ang mga X57's series ng YAMMY, plus high current capable ito, so no problem sa power, kase most entry level receivers has enough power to meet your demands, wag lang yung tipong pang outdoor power ang hanap mo dahil more than 500W yun, anyways yung yammy AVR is bit bright, so try going for the silk ones.

yung local na speakers na ni recommend ko is Dai-ichi DTX tower I think iisa lang ang model nila for floor standers pero kung sa DAi-chi Euros naman go for the 8's its has a complete set at 91db for 18T (2Floor standers, 1 Center, 2 surrounds and 1 powered sub) so medyo economical diba? performance naman hindi masyado nagkakalayo...

   
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: keema on Dec 26, 2005 at 10:43 AM
Sir, kaya pa rin naman ang whafs or gale ng 457's mo, dynamic power ang mga X57's series ng YAMMY, plus high current capable ito, so no problem sa power, kase most entry level receivers has enough power to meet your demands, wag lang yung tipong pang outdoor power ang hanap mo dahil more than 500W yun, anyways yung yammy AVR is bit bright, so try going for the silk ones.

yung local na speakers na ni recommend ko is Dai-ichi DTX tower I think iisa lang ang model nila for floor standers pero kung sa DAi-chi Euros naman go for the 8's its has a complete set at 91db for 18T (2Floor standers, 1 Center, 2 surrounds and 1 powered sub) so medyo economical diba? performance naman hindi masyado nagkakalayo...

   

ahh okay sirs, salamat.. syempre hindi pang outdoor. ano yung silk ones na nasabi mo? pno ko malalaman yun?


Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Dec 26, 2005 at 12:00 PM
ahh okay sirs, salamat.. syempre hindi pang outdoor. ano yung silk ones na nasabi mo? pno ko malalaman yun?




Sir, sa specification ng speakers naka indicate dun kung yun tweeter drivers niya either soft silk dome tweeter or metal dome tweeter, meron din iba make and made like electro static sa case ng martin logan kaya lang sobra mahal nun mga 100T/ea speaker...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Dec 26, 2005 at 01:54 PM
I used to have a RXV450 and it was able to drive my daiichi floorstanders. Went to RXV650 and it was able to drive my mission floorstanders. But when I went for another AVR (HK) the bass response was so much better. I realized thew Yamaha sounded "manipis". The floorstanders can be driven, the question is, how good will it drive your speakers?

I would recommend a Yammy 550/650 plus external amp for floorstanders if you want to hear the full potential of your floorstanders. (just my 2 cents). The 450/457 doesnt have pre-outs.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Dec 26, 2005 at 04:08 PM
I used to have a RXV450 and it was able to drive my daiichi floorstanders. Went to RXV650 and it was able to drive my mission floorstanders. But when I went for another AVR (HK) the bass response was so much better. I realized thew Yamaha sounded "manipis". The floorstanders can be driven, the question is, how good will it drive your speakers?

I would recommend a Yammy 550/650 plus external amp for floorstanders if you want to hear the full potential of your floorstanders. (just my 2 cents). The 450/457 doesnt have pre-outs.

Thats one difference ng higher model ng Yammy x57's may ibang capabilities siya na wala ang lower models, tama si sir MAtZTER, HK are great on power kung baga dun sila nakilala sa clean and powerful sound, like in the case of HK AVR series may umaabot nga ng -/+75 amps. kaya lang naka bili na si sir keema kaya lets help him maximize the potential of his Yammy 457. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Dec 26, 2005 at 04:25 PM
mga sirs, question lang...kaya ba ng rxv 457 mag patunog ng floorstanders na speakers? meron ba sa inyong naka rxv457? anong floorstander speakers ang okay e-match dito? tyaka ilan ba dapat ang sensitivity at wattage ng speaker na pwedeng e-match rxv 457? last na question nalang...okay lang ba kung gumamit ako ng Y-connector kung gagamit ako ng 2 subs?

Ok, in that case, you can try Monitor Audio floorstanders. I was able to try out the MA S6 with the 650 and it had great bass and good midrange too. Try the MA B4
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Dec 26, 2005 at 05:47 PM
Ok, in that case, you can try Monitor Audio floorstanders. I was able to try out the MA S6 with the 650 and it had great bass and good midrange too. Try the MA B4

Sir MAtZTER, paki quote naman ng Monitor Audio B4 price, yung ball park figure lang, for sir keema benefits, saka sir pati narin speakers spec...

Thank you....
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Dec 26, 2005 at 05:55 PM
22-23k last time I checked.

Frequency Response 36Hz-22KHz
Sensitivity (1W@1m) 91dB
Nominal Impedance (Ohms) 6
Power Handling RMS (W) 150
Drive Unit Complement 1 x 6.5" MMP® MK2 Bass
1 x 6.5" MMP® MK2 Bass mid-range
1 x 25mm Gold Dome
C-CAM® tweeter
Cabinet Design Front & rear ported, bass reflex
Product Exernal Dimensions cm (inch) 85H x 18.5W x 25.5D (33 1/2" x 7 1/4" x 10")
Weight (packaged) Kg (lb) 18 (40)
Finishes Black Ash, Rosemah or Beech vinyl with Black Grille

(http://www.monitoraudio.com/img/bronze/b4.gif)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: keema on Dec 26, 2005 at 08:46 PM
salamat mga sirs...san bang store may ganyan na speaker?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fciz_dg on Dec 27, 2005 at 05:13 PM
im lookin for yamaha receivers for 10k to be match with gale 3030....how much for the rcv(wats the cheapest reciever out for grabs)? ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Dec 27, 2005 at 07:19 PM
im lookin for yamaha receivers for 10k to be match with gale 3030....how much for the rcv(wats the cheapest reciever out for grabs)? ;D

Sir try the Buy & Sell section for 2nd hand Yammy receiver, I think the 800's is still up for grabs...
Title: Yamaha '57 series Year End SALE! Hurry grab now
Post by: audioworld on Dec 28, 2005 at 10:08 AM
Good day!

Yamaha '57 series has a year end sale all '57 series receiver is less 25% from SRP.

Hurry grab now!

Until December 31, 2005 only!

Cheers,
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: catgreg2k2 on Dec 28, 2005 at 03:03 PM
boss saan shop po?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: audioworld on Dec 28, 2005 at 03:12 PM
boss saan shop po?

Audioworld Tech. Inc. 749 Banaue Ave. corner Sct. Alcaraz St. Q. C. Tel.:732-7716 or 742-6843.

Happy Holidays,
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: keema on Dec 29, 2005 at 03:49 PM
mga sirs, pano ba set yung impedance sa yamaha rxv 457? tapos kailangan ko pa bang gumamit ng voltage regulator ba yun? or hindi na?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ricracer on Dec 29, 2005 at 04:05 PM
I just passed by a Yamaha Display at the Basement of SM Megamall (near Booksale) and it also offers 25% off on Yamaha receivers.  It is being sponsored by Listening Room, it may be a nationwide promotion by Yamaha. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dulber32 on Dec 29, 2005 at 07:04 PM
Please post here if anyone spots an RX-V750 and how much it's going for.
A friend said he spotted one in Robinson's Place for 19,900.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: knefut on Dec 30, 2005 at 07:57 AM
Please post here if anyone spots an RX-V750 and how much it's going for.
A friend said he spotted one in Robinson's Place for 19,900.

check out ambassador bro. last time i called, it was way lower than your friend's quoted price.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackryan on Dec 30, 2005 at 09:27 AM
check out ambassador bro. last time i called, it was way lower than your friend's quoted price.

wow, if this is true... then better get one... that's dirt cheap na with the features and benefits of a yammy rx-v750... i bought mine earlier at a much higher price... oh well... early adopters have to pay the price of getting it early but no regrets... it's worth the money i paid for it and i strongly recommend that you check the tip above...

-jackryan 8)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dulber32 on Dec 30, 2005 at 11:25 PM
I'll drop by the Park Square One branch Monday.
Thanks for the tip knefut  :D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ronjet on Dec 31, 2005 at 12:34 AM
favor din sir Dulber :)... pa pm din and inform po pagpwede about sa 750 ;)......
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: atomicat10 on Jan 01, 2006 at 03:04 PM
Tried calling them..19,500 cash price for the rx-v750 kala ko mura na muntik tuloy ako ma Sars. :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: keema on Jan 01, 2006 at 06:01 PM
sirs, question lang po. pano po ba e-set sa 6ohms yung rxv457? ano po bang mangyayari kung hindi mo po na set sa 6ohms yung receiver? tapos pano ko babalik sa 8ohms yung impedance settings ng receiver?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Jan 01, 2006 at 07:10 PM
sirs, question lang po. pano po ba e-set sa 6ohms yung rxv457? ano po bang mangyayari kung hindi mo po na set sa 6ohms yung receiver? tapos pano ko babalik sa 8ohms yung impedance settings ng receiver?

Sir, RXV x57's has a toggle switch, Im not just sure about the 457 though, but if available, it is just beside the voltage selector at the back plate of your receiver, its near between the power cord and the speakers binding post. it also indicate the impedance load guide.

If you load a 4 ohms speakers on a 6 ohms receiver. the amp will be working a bit more from the normal operation and more heat the amp will produce. Anyways there are tolerances between resistive loads like the Yammy RX-V x57's series, they are capable of performing dynamic head room (upto 2ohms), but better be sure on a safe levels. when in "doubt check it out" better not experiment on this section if you want to prolong your amp life. if your not sure better load it with a normal 8 ohms speakers. most amp accept this resistive load.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: andee on Jan 03, 2006 at 01:02 PM
i'm looking for a yummy 440, saan shop meron pa nito and how much? thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Assassin101 on Jan 03, 2006 at 01:49 PM
i'm looking for a yummy 440, saan shop meron pa nito and how much? thanks.

try looking in listening in style at the shang edsa.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JFBagadiong on Jan 03, 2006 at 08:50 PM
NEWS! NEWS! NEWS! Guys, according to my source Yamaha RX-V757 will arrive mid this year, prices will start at 36-37T, ano kayang difference ng 750 sa 757? sana bumaba rin ang 757 end of this year, coz when I recall 750 also started at the price of 34T now its down to 19,5T kaso limited stocks na... :(

Disclaimer:
My source is one of the distro of Yammy here in Manila, but im am not connected somehow to them. Im just an avid buyer. I already bought from them several receivers, players, speakers at interconnects...

 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: keema on Jan 04, 2006 at 09:48 AM
sir, ok lang ba kung 6ohms na speakers ang kabit ko sa rxv457? kse sa impedance setting nya 4ohms at 8ohms lang ang pwedeng piliin....
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 04, 2006 at 10:20 AM
NEWS! NEWS! NEWS! Guys, according to my source Yamaha RX-V757 will arrive mid this year, prices will start at 36-37T, ano kayang difference ng 750 sa 757? sana bumaba rin ang 757 end of this year, coz when I recall 750 also started at the price of 34T now its down to 19,5T kaso limited stocks na... :(

Wow, ka- presyo ng RXV1500. At that price dapat siguro may HDMI switching na yan. But I think that is reserved for the RXV1600 w/c they showed in the CEDIA 2005 show.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Jan 04, 2006 at 10:39 AM
sir, ok lang ba kung 6ohms na speakers ang kabit ko sa rxv457? kse sa impedance setting nya 4ohms at 8ohms lang ang pwedeng piliin....

As long as you set your amp's impedance lower than your speaker's impedance, so if you have a 6 Ohm speaker, a 4 Ohm amp can drive it very well.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Assassin101 on Jan 04, 2006 at 02:40 PM
mga peeps. kaya po ba i-drive ng rxv650 ang diamond 8.4 or 9.5? m palnning to buy kc a set of speakers for my yammy... ok lang ba itong setup na to? any feedback?

plan
center: 9cs or 8cs
front: 9.5 or 8.4
surround: 9 dfs
sub: us audio 12"
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: BayagMan on Jan 06, 2006 at 08:14 PM
sirs, question lang po. kaya po bang drive ng yammy rxv450 (85 wats minumun output) yung B&W DM602 S3 ? (120wats / 90dB) or mas bagay yung DM601 S3 (100w / 88dB) ? sabi kase ng iba nde daw kaya ng RXV450 85w yung DM602 120w, sabi rin ng iba mas mataas n sensitivity dB madaling drive, mas mataas kase sensitivity ng DM602 kaysa DM601 pero mas mataas naman wats ng DM602 sa DM601
guys help me naman nalilito n kase ko kung alin sa 2 ang bibilin ko, thnx ( atat n kong bumili ng B&W )
room size ko 5m
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: classicman on Jan 07, 2006 at 09:12 AM
sirs, question lang po. kaya po bang drive ng yammy rxv450 (85 wats minumun output) yung B&W DM602 S3 ? (120wats / 90dB) or mas bagay yung DM601 S3 (100w / 88dB) ? sabi kase ng iba nde daw kaya ng RXV450 85w yung DM602 120w, sabi rin ng iba mas mataas n sensitivity dB madaling drive, mas mataas kase sensitivity ng DM602 kaysa DM601 pero mas mataas naman wats ng DM602 sa DM601
guys help me naman nalilito n kase ko kung alin sa 2 ang bibilin ko, thnx ( atat n kong bumili ng B&W )
room size ko 5m


sir, kayang-kaya pong i-drive ng yammy 450 ang B&W 602s3, ito po ang ginagamit kong combo sa HT ko w/ B&W LCR60 as center.......mapa-HT man or pure audio, kayang-kaya pong i-drive sya, i would even dare say that it's a very good comination ;)

you should go for the 602s3 over the 601s3, it has a bigger woofer at 7" (even bigger than the floorstanding 603s3) kaya super ganda at linaw ng mids nya, at kung sa audio mo lang gagamitin di mo na kelangan ng subs.......baka mabitin ka lang sa 601s3 :)


just my two cents 8)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: keema on Jan 07, 2006 at 11:01 AM
sir, tanong ko lang..meron kse akong rx-v457 tapos ang kasama nyang speakers eh yung 6.1 na nsp246, yamaha din. tanong ko lng kung talagang aabot yung vol. ng -10db or mas mababa pa para lang malakas yung sound? tyaka kung papalitan ko yung mga speakers ko...example, gawing kong bookshelf or floorstanders..magiging ganito pa din ba yung setting ng volume ko or hindi na?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: classicman on Jan 14, 2006 at 04:12 PM
Yamaha HTR-5860 7.1 Digital Home Theater Receiver

(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0008F6KDI.01-A2763VQ7SN6URD._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg)

7.1-channel receiver offering 770W (110W x 7RMS), many exclusive Yamaha functions, including YPAO automatic optimization, Quad-field CINEMA DSP, XM Satellite Radio ready and Component Up conversion.

MSRP $549.95

High Sound Quality

7-Channel 770W Powerful Surround Sound (110W x 7)
Digital ToP-ART and High Current Amplification
Pure Direct for High Quality Sound Reproduction


Surround Realism

Dialogue Lift for Enhanced Dialogue Sound Output
Quad-Field CINEMA DSP and 14 Surround Programs
Night Listening Enhancer (Cinema/Music) and SILENT CINEMA


Advanced Facilities

XM Satellite Radio Ready
YPAO for Automatically Optimizing the Sound in Your Room
On-Screen Display
Surround Back Power-Amp Assignable (for Presence Channels) for the Ultimate Surround Sound System
8-Channel External Decoder Input


High Picture Quality

Component Video Up Conversion (Full)

HTR-5860 Features

    * Accurate Touch Volume Control
    * 192 kHz/24-Bit DAC for All Channels
    * Selectable 9-Band Subwoofer Crossover
    * Subwoofer Phase Select
    * Analog Mixdown
    * Straight/Effect Switch
    * Direct Stereo and 2-Channel Stereo Mode
    * High Dynamic Power and Linear Damping
    * Dolby Digital EX, DTS-ES, Dolby Pro LogicIIx and DTS 96/24 Compatibility
    * Wide-Range Audio Frequency Response for DVD-Audio/Super Audio CD
    * 9-Channel Speaker Terminals (incl. Presence Channels)
    * Surround Back Power-Amp Assignable (for Presence Channels)
    * 8-Channel External Decoder Input
    * Speaker A, B or A+B Selection (Front L/R)
    * Audio Delay for Lip Sync (0–160 ms)
    * Virtual CINEMA DSP
    * Wide-Range Video Bandwidth (60MHz -3dB)
    * HDTV Compatible Component Video Out
    * Preset Remote Control Unit
    * Sleep Timer
    * 40-Station Preset Tuning
    * Auto Preset Tuning


any thoughts on this baby (incidentally, this is for the north american market) ::)

 8)


dumating na rin sa wakas (shipped via JAC) :D......ang ganda pala talaga at iba ang dating pag black ang receiver 8)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: backdraft on Jan 14, 2006 at 08:08 PM

dumating na rin sa wakas (shipped via JAC) :D......ang ganda pala talaga at iba ang dating pag black ang receiver 8)

bro classicman, how much was the damage for the shipping with johnny air? how long did it took for the delivery.

TIA
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aldrinpsx on Jan 14, 2006 at 10:19 PM
(http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/prod_images/RXV1400.jpg)

Im currently using it with my 602 S3 for audio listening..cant decide yet if i should sell this or not.

RX-V1400 Features

High power 7-channel* discrete amplifier configuration (110W x 7RMS/FTC)
Digital ToP-ART and High Current Amplification
Direct Stereo mode for high quality 2-channel sound reproduction
Accurate touch digitally regulated volume control governs all channels
Audio Delay for adjusting lip-synch
Finest parts used throughout for high sound quality
New 32-bit Yamaha LSI (YSS-930) for CINEMA DSP processing
Compatibility with latest movie sound formats including Dolby Digital EX, Dolby Pro Logic II, DTS-ES Discrete 6.1, DTS Neo:6and DTS 96/24
THX Select processing
27 surround programs (47 variations) with SILENT CINEMA and Night Listening mode
Component video up conversion:S-video/composite signal conversion to component video signal
YPAO (Yamaha Parametric Room Acoustic Optimizer)
Extensive inputs/outputs for custom installation (Zone 2, Zone 3and speaker A/B selection)
9-channel speaker outputs:Automatic presence speaker or Zone 2 speaker selection


peace!!!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sanmig_ph on Jan 14, 2006 at 10:43 PM
ganda naman ng yummy ni sir aldrin  ;D
nasasars tuloy ako
peace bro ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: classicman on Jan 15, 2006 at 09:20 AM
bro classicman, how much was the damage for the shipping with johnny air? how long did it took for the delivery.

TIA


bro backdraft, i initially wanted to ship this together w/ my yammy dvd player via JAC's balikbayan box to save on shipping costs, but i was given an irresistible discount on air freight for them.....ang bilis ng shipment wala pang 10 days andito na sa cebu after it arrived at their NY office :o......will PM you nalang the rate, hehehe ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: backdraft on Jan 15, 2006 at 02:03 PM

bro backdraft, i initially wanted to ship this together w/ my yammy dvd player via JAC's balikbayan box to save on shipping costs, but i was given an irresistible discount on air freight for them.....ang bilis ng shipment wala pang 10 days andito na sa cebu after it arrived at their NY office :o......will PM you nalang the rate, hehehe ;D

that's quite cheap and fast. biruin mo di ka na dumaan ng post office, malamanang tatagain ka ng mga loko nyan for tax.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Jan 19, 2006 at 06:23 PM
No where in metro manila I can find the RX-V750 as in "NO WHERE" bad trip yung mga suppliers dito hindi ko alam kung hinohord or what.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Feb 06, 2006 at 10:20 AM
Kung wala na talagang available, why not try the 657?

Wala pa akong 657, hinihintay ko pang mabili ang old gears ko.

Pero nag-audition ako ng 650; ayos na ayos.  Walang available 657 sa shop, pero sabi ng nag-aasist, pareho lang daw ang 650 & 657.  P19,500 lang ang 650; P26,500 ang 657.  Wala na daw talagang 750 kahit saan (757 not yet released).

Upon research sa internet, may malaking difference pala sila na useful para sa akin.  Ang 657 ay may parametric equalizer for each channel, automatic pa kasama sa YPAO.  Of course, manually adjustable kung gusto mo ng konting modification sa auto setup. Walang EQ ang YPAO ng 650 (wala rin yatang EQ ang YPAO ng 750).

Importante sa akin ang EQ para mapantay ang response ng lahat ng speakers dahil irregular ang korte ng kuwarto ko sa front left portion.  At baka hindi na maging issue ang konting difference sa speaker characteristics (bright, mid, dark, etc.) kung puwede namang ilapit sa almost flat response.  Hindi lang frequency and volume ang EQ nito -- 3 levels ang gamit nila: frequency, volume and Q Factor.  Baka malaos na ang Radio Shack sound level meter dahil dito.       
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Assassin101 on Feb 06, 2006 at 11:50 AM
Kung wala na talagang available, why not try the 657?

Wala pa akong 657, hinihintay ko pang mabili ang old gears ko.

Pero nag-audition ako ng 650; ayos na ayos.  Walang available 657 sa shop, pero sabi ng nag-aasist, pareho lang daw ang 650 & 657.  P19,500 lang ang 650; P26,500 ang 657.  Wala na daw talagang 750 kahit saan (757 not yet released).

Upon research sa internet, may malaking difference pala sila na useful para sa akin.  Ang 657 ay may parametric equalizer for each channel, automatic pa kasama sa YPAO.  Of course, manually adjustable kung gusto mo ng konting modification sa auto setup. Walang EQ ang YPAO ng 650 (wala rin yatang EQ ang YPAO ng 750).

Importante sa akin ang EQ para mapantay ang response ng lahat ng speakers dahil irregular ang korte ng kuwarto ko sa front left portion.  At baka hindi na maging issue ang konting difference sa speaker characteristics (bright, mid, dark, etc.) kung puwede namang ilapit sa almost flat response.  Hindi lang frequency and volume ang EQ nito -- 3 levels ang gamit nila: frequency, volume and Q Factor.  Baka malaos na ang Radio Shack sound level meter dahil dito.       

elo po, m using a yamaha 650. meron na po sya kasama na YPAO. Meron din po sya EQ.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Feb 06, 2006 at 03:14 PM
Sayang, mas gusto ko kasi ang kulay ng 650, mas mura pa.  Baka lugi ako sa 657, pero wala na yata akong makukuhang 650 ngayon.

Nag-research uli ako, at ang intindi ko sa manual ng 650, center channel lang ang may EQ, 5-band graphic equalizer ("CENTER GEQ"). So kung ang tonal imbalance ng left and right front ko ang problema, hindi rin maso-solve. http://www.yamaha.com/yec//customer/manuals/PDFs/RX_V650_.PDF

Sa 657, kasama ang EQ sa YPAO.  It's a parametric equalizer ("AUTO PEQ") with 3 parameters: frequency, volume and Q factor, equalizing all channels independently and automatically under YPAO. 

Pero meron ding center graphic equalizer ("CNTR GEQ") sa 657. So ang EQ choices sa 657 ay AUTO PEQ, CNTR GEQ, and OFF.  http://www2.yamaha.co.jp/manual/pdf/av/english/re/RX-V657_U.pdf
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: knefut on Feb 08, 2006 at 02:01 PM
sir any idea whats the lowest price for a 457 today?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Feb 17, 2006 at 10:46 AM
Its out! RXV1600 & 2600!
With HDMI interface!
with selectable posts for bi amping!
Burr brown DAC! lumalaban na Yamaha sa Audio!

I saw it at LIS yesterday and asked for a catalogue:

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b290/mhyap/Misc/1600.jpg)(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b290/mhyap/Misc/y1600.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b290/mhyap/Misc/2600.jpg)(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b290/mhyap/Misc/y2600.jpg)

Ang mahal nga lang. Mga 60+k & 80+k sila. ouch!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ricky on Feb 17, 2006 at 11:49 AM
with the price posted and If you guys plan to use only the preouts and processor part of this recvr,why not just get a pre-pro and a separate power amp, ;Dit would be much cheaper and practical in the end esp if you wont be needing also the tuner part ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Chito C. on Feb 17, 2006 at 12:16 PM
Bought banana plugs for my RXV-440. It won't fit.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: oweidah on Feb 17, 2006 at 12:53 PM
with the price posted and If you guys plan to use only the preouts and processor part of this recvr,why not just get a pre-pro and a separate power amp, ;Dit would be much cheaper and practical in the end esp if you wont be needing also the tuner part ;)
sir ricky, what entry-level brand / model of "preamp/processors only" that are available in the market? tnx
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ricky on Feb 17, 2006 at 03:57 PM
sir ricky, what entry-level brand / model of "preamp/processors only" that are available in the market? tnx

Sorry bro my bad,all i can think of right now is the rotel rsp 1068 and i dont think it classifies as an entry level brand. :-[ but you can just get the cheapest model of yamaha or hk that has  pre-outs,its still a way lot cheaper than the rotel and you can bi-amp your spaekers pa like what matzter did ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: oweidah on Feb 17, 2006 at 04:58 PM
ricky, no problem :) i think most if not all new yamaha entry-level models dont have pre-outs. sa *57 series, 657 or 757 lang naglagay ng pre-outs, at hindi sila naglabas dito ng audio/video amp/processor puro a/v receivers. sayang.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sillyputty on Feb 17, 2006 at 05:42 PM
alam ko may nagpost sa asstd buy and sell ng pre-pro. rotel 1066.. 35k ata yun.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Feb 17, 2006 at 05:46 PM
Observe the pattern:
640-740 doesnt have YPAO
1400-2400 has YPAO
 
a year later...
650-750 has ypao


Yamaha's newer techs from higher end models trickle down to their entry levels in time. My guess is the RXV 660 and 760 might have these cool features (HDMI, bur brown, bi amping) as well, maybe next year?

So for me, pinakasulit na solution IMO is invest in a good 5 channel power amp (its what I did) and get a Yamaha 6xx to7xx for its unrivalled dsp and use it as a processor / pre amp (I plan to someday  ;D). This way you get the best of power and DSP. In my experience the Yamaha 3xx-7xx lack power, specially for floorstanders.

Just sharing my 2 cents  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ricky on Feb 17, 2006 at 09:19 PM
alam ko may nagpost sa asstd buy and sell ng pre-pro. rotel 1066.. 35k ata yun.

Best buy na ito since srp right now is 82,000.00 :o
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Feb 17, 2006 at 09:31 PM
Grabe ang pogi nito, a!

I just bought a 657, OK na ako dito.  The prices of the 1600 & 2600 are just way out of my league.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: classicman on Feb 18, 2006 at 02:45 PM
Grabe ang pogi nito, a!

I just bought a 657, OK na ako dito.  The prices of the 1600 & 2600 are just way out of my league.


congrats sir on your new toy, you will surely enjoy that much more than your previous receiver....... 8)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: classicman on Feb 18, 2006 at 02:46 PM

So for me, pinakasulit na solution IMO is invest in a good 5 channel power amp (its what I did) and get a Yamaha 6xx to7xx for its unrivalled dsp and use it as a processor / pre amp (I plan to someday  ;D). This way you get the best of power and DSP. In my experience the Yamaha 3xx-7xx lack power, specially for floorstanders.

Just sharing my 2 cents  :)

sir matz, you should go for the RX-V2600 for that ultimate HT experience, bagay na bagay sa rotel power amp. nyo yan......... 8)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aldrinpsx on Feb 18, 2006 at 02:48 PM
ganda naman ng yummy ni sir aldrin  ;D
nasasars tuloy ako
peace bro ;D

Sold it already.. ;D ;D ;D..back to old skol... denon integ amp. ;D ;D ;D ;D

peace!!!!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Feb 18, 2006 at 03:04 PM
sir matz, you should go for the RX-V2600 for that ultimate HT experience, bagay na bagay sa rotel power amp. nyo yan......... 8)

LOL, 60+K! Wala na pong budget  ;D! At medyo overkill na ata ang 2600 plus Rotel.

And I was doing some thinking, the HDMI upsampling wont be of benefit in my case cuz the PJ is far from the AVR. But DLP, LCD, PDP TV's can benefit from the HDMI upconversion of this baby.

It was also pointed out to me that the 1600 does not have upconversion, just HDMI. I failed to notice that at first.

But the bur brown DAC is attractive isnt it? Ganda siguro ng audio ng models na to...

Sir classicman, kayo na lang bumili ng 2600, bagay to sa B&W nyo  :D!

>:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Feb 18, 2006 at 04:01 PM
congrats sir on your new toy, you will surely enjoy that much more than your previous receiver....... 8)

Thanks, bosing.  I owe it to your valuable advice in the other thread.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: classicman on Feb 19, 2006 at 07:25 AM
Thanks, bosing.  I owe it to your valuable advice in the other thread.


your welcome sir, glad to be of help somehow in your decision making....... 8)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: classicman on Feb 19, 2006 at 07:48 AM
LOL, 60+K! Wala na pong budget  ;D! At medyo overkill na ata ang 2600 plus Rotel.

And I was doing some thinking, the HDMI upsampling wont be of benefit in my case cuz the PJ is far from the AVR. But DLP, LCD, PDP TV's can benefit from the HDMI upconversion of this baby.

It was also pointed out to me that the 1600 does not have upconversion, just HDMI. I failed to notice that at first.

But the bur brown DAC is attractive isnt it? Ganda siguro ng audio ng models na to...

Sir classicman, kayo na lang bumili ng 2600, bagay to sa B&W nyo  :D!

>:D >:D >:D


naku sir matz, mas lalong kapos ako sa budget ;D......besides i just bought my yammy HTR-5860 last my month & am pretty much satisfied w/ it for my current needs :D.......on the other hand, i'm presently on a hunt for either a decent cdp or integrated amp. for my separate purely audio set-up, di pwedeng pagsabayin at baka mabugbog na ni mrs., hehehe ;D ;D ;D

seriously, i agree w/ you that the RX-V2600 might be an overkill for your set-up coz you already have the power amp.......so you just go for the RX-V1600 instead, you don't need the upgrading/upscaling features of a receiver naman coz your DVD players have that already & besides IMHO, mas maganda pa rin syempre yung direct route from player to your PJ as compared to coursing it through a receiver...... 8)

kayang-kaya nyo ang RX-V1600 coz halos ka-presyo lang yan ng HK630 nyo, ibenta nyo nalang yan then konting dagdag nalang at meron na kayong awesome combo for your ultimate HT entertainment :o :o ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Feb 20, 2006 at 11:52 AM

seriously, i agree w/ you that the RX-V2600 might be an overkill for your set-up coz you already have the power amp.......so you just go for the RX-V1600 instead, you don't need the upgrading/upscaling features of a receiver naman coz your DVD players have that already & besides IMHO, mas maganda pa rin syempre yung direct route from player to your PJ as compared to coursing it through a receiver...... 8)

Exactly!  :) Ang galing talaga ni sir classicman!

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kayang-kaya nyo ang RX-V1600 coz halos ka-presyo lang yan ng HK630 nyo, ibenta nyo nalang yan then konting dagdag nalang at meron na kayong awesome combo for your ultimate HT entertainment :o :o ;D

Naku~~! Tukso >:D! layuan mo akoooo!  ;D Heheh

But seriously, the HK does well din naman for HT. The Yamaha just has a slight edge with regards to HT & DSPs. But in my experience, the DSPs (of my older Yammy) were exciting at first, but it turns out that I only use 2 DSPs after the initial excitement. So for now dito muna tayo sa HK... Wala na rin kasi pambili ng bago, hehe.

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Feb 20, 2006 at 12:42 PM
Galing Galing talaga ng Yamaha! parang Coffee 3 in 1...

Good for Audio, Ang lupit pa sa HT.......... Mas Matindi pa pag dating sa Videoke..... wala talgang tatalo pag dating sa HT at DSP, worth it every penny taon pa ang tinatagal... 

This is one good entertainment companion, pag may bisita Videoke, pag nagsawa HT naman, pag chitchat with friends good background music using DSP's...

cant ask for more...   :D     
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Feb 21, 2006 at 11:52 PM
How much yung RX-V2600?

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: classicman on Feb 23, 2006 at 08:40 AM
How much yung RX-V2600?

Thanks :)


Its out! RXV1600 & 2600!
With HDMI interface!
with selectable posts for bi amping!
Burr brown DAC! lumalaban na Yamaha sa Audio!

I saw it at LIS yesterday and asked for a catalogue:

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b290/mhyap/Misc/1600.jpg)(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b290/mhyap/Misc/y1600.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b290/mhyap/Misc/2600.jpg)(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b290/mhyap/Misc/y2600.jpg)

Ang mahal nga lang. Mga 60+k & 80+k sila. ouch!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: classicman on Feb 23, 2006 at 08:43 AM
Exactly!  :) Ang galing talaga ni sir classicman!

Naku~~! Tukso >:D! layuan mo akoooo!  ;D Heheh



sir Matz, just take the plunge & grab the RX-V1600 now ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: leomar on Feb 23, 2006 at 02:42 PM
sir matz! bagay na bagay ito sa HT Room mo! hehe
tukso, bagabagin mo si MATZ! hehe  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Feb 23, 2006 at 04:08 PM
Whats this Sir Matz?

An HK user going to Yamaha? WHOHOW!!!  ;D

"EXTRA CHALLENGE"
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ricky on Feb 23, 2006 at 04:13 PM
Ha ha ha Guys maawa naman kayo kay matz baka bumili nga yan ;D pero kung ako syo matz mag ROTEL receiver ka na lang para match yung gears mo ;D ;D ;D may for sale na rsp965 at a very nice price, 5.1 nga lang :(
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Feb 23, 2006 at 04:23 PM
Maganda Yamaha RX-V1600 Matz...

Parang 3 in 1:

Good for Audio lalo na yang 1600...

Good for HT as we all know may little edge ang Yamaha vs. HK because of the Enhance option...

Tapos Panalo pa sa Videoke dahil sa DSP....

Bili bili na Bwahahahaharrrr  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Feb 23, 2006 at 04:54 PM
Lol, tigilan nyo nga ako.  ;D Nananahimik ako dito  ;D

Hans, galing na ako ng Yamaha before (650). Yamaha indeed has an edge in HT, but HK has a good edge in audio, IMO. Pero I am on the way (slowly) to building a separate audio set up. So I am looking at a Yamaha again, but in the future na pag may pera na uli. Para best of both worlds, one good HT setup and a separate audio setup. HK kasi is a compromise of both.

I  am currently in the process of (slowly) upgrading my audio set up, so funds are diverted there ;D. Kaya wag nyo na ako i-torture sa 1600 na yan at napakamahal. hehe
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Feb 23, 2006 at 09:13 PM
hihihi....

Saan ba pede ma audition yan 2600 saka 1600... ciguro pag narinig natin yan at naramdaman ang performance naku!!! additiional target for year ender 2006 hehehe!!!

Ganda nun matz... HK at Yamaha combination for audio at HT gears. ang lupit!!!

Sir matz yung setup mo is one of the best here in PDVD tapos additional 1600 pa. nakow! pamatay na setup na yan...

 ;)   
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ricky on Feb 23, 2006 at 10:31 PM
hihihi....

Saan ba pede ma audition yan 2600 saka 1600... ciguro pag narinig natin yan at naramdaman ang performance naku!!! additiional target for year ender 2006 hehehe!!!

Ganda nun matz... HK at Yamaha combination for audio at HT gears. ang lupit!!!

Sir matz yung setup mo is one of the best here in PDVD tapos additional 1600 pa. nakow! pamatay na setup na yan...

 ;)   

Ha ha ha pare maganda nga yamaha and hk dual combo and may pera si matz to buy,but im sure he is not stupid to acquire both lol. I heard gusto nya set-up pamatay na videoke naman ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Feb 23, 2006 at 11:58 PM
Ha ha ha pare maganda nga yamaha and hk dual combo and may pera si matz to buy,but im sure he is not stupid to acquire both lol. I heard gusto nya set-up pamatay na videoke naman ;D

HAHAHA! Im pretty sure sir matz not that stupid enough but, actually if Im not mistaken, before I make my purchase of a Yamaha AVR he recommended me to get a Yamaha for the HT and DSP and HK for power amp. to get both worlds hehehe! kaso hindi ako rich like sir matz. besides Im into another project of funding another hobby and that is professional photography. I opt to get a D70s or a D200 if budget permits, well thats OT...  ;D

Anyways for Videoke set up with studio quality. I can help Sir Matz with that... besides I was in the professional Audio business a few years ago and still am partially...  ;) 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Feb 24, 2006 at 07:40 AM


so 60k for 1600 and 80k for 2600..wow thats too much for me...

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Feb 24, 2006 at 12:45 PM
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so 60k for 1600 and 80k for 2600..wow thats too much for me...

Yep, too much for me too. I know that the 1500 was 34k and the 2500 was 43k the last time I asked. These new prices are like...WOW  :o :o :o

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tapos additional 1600 pa. nakow! pamatay na setup na yan...

Hehe, pag HK AVR plus Yamaha AVR, kalokohan na nga yan  ;D. Pero kung yung recommend ko sa yo na Yamaha DSP plus HK power amp (you mentioned above), pwede pa & recommended  ;).

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Anyways for Videoke set up with studio quality. I can help Sir Matz with that

LOL, wala tayong talent sa videoke. Pag may lakad involving karaoke, kahit libre pa, bigla ako may excuse not to go.  ;D
Wala po akong balak dyan sa karaoke, wag kayo maniwala kay ricky ;D
At di rin po ako rich or may pera to buy the new Yamaha models.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Munskie on Feb 24, 2006 at 12:59 PM
sir matz...sama ako ah sa pagtukso...bili bili na!!  ;D ;D  ganda ng specs and features ng yamaha....napapailing uli ako......
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Feb 24, 2006 at 01:08 PM
HEHEHE! Sir matz, sa Videoke setup na irerecommend ko sayo. kahit pangit at wala kang talent sa pagkanta mapapabilib ka sa boses mo hehehe! kahit si Palito napabilib ko dito nung nagsetup ako sa Pacita sa friend niya na barangay chairman...

boss Matz sa HK + Yamaha combo try ko maghanap ng power amp sa US. Im going there late may or early april. try ko yung recommend mo set up...

 :D bili na ng Yamaha hehehe!!!     
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Feb 24, 2006 at 02:26 PM
boss Matz sa HK + Yamaha combo try ko maghanap ng power amp sa US. Im going there late may or early april. try ko yung recommend mo set up...

Meron nagbebenta sa wiredstate ng HK power amp 10k lang, flexible sya at 4x50 or bridgeable to 2x 100wpc, conservatively rated, approximatley 2x200w or more yan pag compared to Yamaha ratings. Kakanta talaga floorstanders nyan.

sir matz...sama ako ah sa pagtukso...bili bili na!! ;D ;D ganda ng specs and features ng yamaha....napapailing uli ako......

Hehe, ikaw ha, bumabawi ka sa mga tukso sa Rotel  ;D.

Ganda nga ng features, kaya.... ikaw na lang bumili. Kayang kaya mo naman eh, dami mong pambili ;). Ok na muna ako sa HK ko, katumbas din naman sya ng RXV 2x00 series pag dating sa power, mas wala lang features :'(. Ganyan talaga pag wala pera, tiyaga na lang muna kung anong meron  :-[.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Feb 24, 2006 at 03:15 PM
Meron nagbebenta sa wiredstate ng HK power amp 10k lang, flexible sya at 4x50 or bridgeable to 2x 100wpc, conservatively rated, approximatley 2x200w or more yan pag compared to Yamaha ratings. Kakanta talaga floorstanders nyan.

Sir matz saan ba yung wiredstate lugar ba yun or website? mukhang okey yun HK power amp brand new ba? thanks for the info...
Title: YAMAHA RX-V450
Post by: keema on Feb 28, 2006 at 02:03 PM
cno po dito ang may ganitong ginagamit na receiver and ano pong mga speakers ang nakabit?
salamat...
Title: Re: YAMAHA RX-V450
Post by: leomar on Mar 01, 2006 at 09:46 AM
ako po...
daiichi euros8 set po ung nakakabit sa avr ko...

bakit po? hehe
Title: Re: YAMAHA RX-V450
Post by: itgbkj on Mar 01, 2006 at 07:23 PM
mine has Wharfes 9.2, Wharfe CS, Wharfe WH-2 for the rears and center rear.  With dai-ichi sub, 100W.

Happy owner.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: b0ss_sa_b0ss on Mar 04, 2006 at 01:30 AM
<<newbie here

ask ko lang, ok po ba yung yamaha rx-v657 for starters? sa mga meron na nito, feedback naman. plano ko rin kc magsetup ng kahit basic HT lang.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Mar 04, 2006 at 01:58 PM
Maganda ang Yammy 657.  Great value for money.

This model is the cheapest Yamaha with auto parametric equalizer.  For their lower models, there's a graphic EQ for the center channel, but without the Auto PEQ for all channels. 

Take advantage of the latest av receiver softwares.  Auto PEQ used to be available for the most expensive models only; ngayon, entry level lang, may Auto PEQ na.

Read a review: http://www.soundcity.com/info/yamahaavr
Title: Re: Yamaha AVR modification
Post by: oweidah on Mar 08, 2006 at 09:20 AM
to the technical guys, sir...pwede p0 ba i-modify ang isang avr na walang "preamp out" feature para lagyan ng preamp out-socket? maybe the "record" socket of the vcr/v-aux can be modified? i am sure owners of entry level avrs would want to have this "preamp" out feature so they can use an external power amp and improve the audio quality of the avr, hindi lang pang-HT, pang audio pa! ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Mar 08, 2006 at 09:58 AM
wow...ganda ng 1600/2600 ah....

love na love ko na ang jurrasic kong 6.1 yammy what more etong 1600/2600

someday......
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: iceman90a on Mar 08, 2006 at 11:06 AM
to the technical guys, sir...pwede p0 ba i-modify ang isang avr na walang "preamp out" feature para lagyan ng preamp out-socket? maybe the "record" socket of the vcr/v-aux can be modified? i am sure owners of entry level avrs would want to have this "preamp" out feature so they can use an external power amp and improve the audio quality of the avr, hindi lang pang-HT, pang audio pa! ;D

technically pwede - but you might end up spending more, than just selling the AVR and buying a new one :(

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: oweidah on Mar 08, 2006 at 11:24 AM
technically pwede - but you might end up spending more, than just selling the AVR and buying a new one :(
sir iceman90a, thanx! :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Mar 08, 2006 at 12:42 PM
in my experience its better to go to the separate route...
HT for movies
Tubes for music...

dati nag experiment na si kimpao using his yammy and "TONO" pre-amp...
slight improvement lang daw....
Title: Re: YAMAHA RX-V450
Post by: kimpOy on Mar 08, 2006 at 12:48 PM
not the 450 but its mechanical twin 440

speakers hooked on this AVRs are

DTX 9.5 Series
DTX 4.10 Subwoofer

imho dai-1chis are compatible with entry level yammies (after break in period)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: oweidah on Mar 08, 2006 at 01:12 PM
in my experience its better to go to the separate route...
HT for movies
Tubes for music...
dati nag experiment na si kimpao using his yammy and "TONO" pre-amp...
slight improvement lang daw....
sir iba naman p0 eto...external power amp ang magpa-power ng front channels. at yung yammy avr ay preamp processor lang. in my case, im using the sonic-impact t-amp at acoustic research tds202 sound enhancer. malayo sa tunog ng yamaha avr! pwede rin tube power amp or "muscular" amps like nad rotel, pre-owned hafler adcom etc that could bring out the best from your front speakers ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kimpOy on Mar 08, 2006 at 01:18 PM
 my bad.... tamad kasi akong magbasa ng whole post eh
just pointing out the seperate route...

although now you gave me a good idea  :D
Title: Re: Yamaha AVR modification
Post by: av_phile1 on Mar 08, 2006 at 01:42 PM
to the technical guys, sir...pwede p0 ba i-modify ang isang avr na walang "preamp out" feature para lagyan ng preamp out-socket? maybe the "record" socket of the vcr/v-aux can be modified? i am sure owners of entry level avrs would want to have this "preamp" out feature so they can use an external power amp and improve the audio quality of the avr, hindi lang pang-HT, pang audio pa! ;D

You'd have to do some internal circuit modification.   If you have a circuit diagram and can trace the receiver's circuit board,  you'll have to scrape off the copper joining the preamp to the power amp, identify the signal ground path and have these RCA output-terminated.  An experienced techie or techie-hobbyst can help here.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: rascal101 on Mar 08, 2006 at 04:45 PM
It will be also nice if you can disable the supply going to the pre-amp. This way you can deliver more power to the power-amp. Also, you may want to use a slightly lower rated fuse for additional protection.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Mar 14, 2006 at 04:27 PM
My hunch was right. Burr brown DAC will be used in the next Yamaha entry level receivers RXV459, 559,659. Their technology consistently trickles down every year from higher end models to the entry levels.

 TI Aureus DSP in New Yamaha Receivers (http://www.audioholics.com/news/pressreleases/TIAureusDSPyamahareceivers.php)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: keema on Mar 14, 2006 at 11:23 PM
My hunch was right. Burr brown DAC will be used in the next Yamaha entry leve

ano po ba yung Burr brown DAC?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: macx on Mar 18, 2006 at 03:52 PM
I saw a surplus yamaha being sold here, and I was wondering if anyone knows anything about the unit. Its a Yamaha AVX 1000 DSP.

Not really sure if its a good receiver, but I would really want to know if it is.

Is this good for a starter setup?  ???
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Apr 09, 2006 at 12:47 PM
(http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/products/dsp/rx-v2600doc/story/img/p-06.jpg)(http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/products/dsp/rx-v2600doc/story/img/p-07.jpg)
Yamaha AVR engineers

Puro bata pala.  Kaya siguro mabilis ang improvements ng mga models nila.

Interview from Yamaha Japan site: http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/products/dsp/rx-v2600doc/story/01.html
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sjss on Apr 11, 2006 at 08:41 AM
any reviews from rx v457 and euros8 or 6 users? will the floorstanders overpower the subwoofer? thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Apr 11, 2006 at 11:38 AM
any reviews from rx v457 and euros8 or 6 users? will the floorstanders overpower the subwoofer? thanks!

im currently using Euros 8 system, matched with RXV995 with DTX 4.15, all I can say is awsome with this performance on the price tag, this is a "bang for the buck". though I thought my 4.15 will over power my 2 towers but it came to me that RVX995 has a subwoofer level so adjustment can be made directly with the AVR, so fixed adjustment on the sub with a 50hz cutoff...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ndy on Apr 18, 2006 at 06:05 PM
any news kung kelan po labas dito sa atin rxv659?

how much kaya abutin?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: pinoyrod on Apr 19, 2006 at 01:15 AM
     Anybody using Yamaha RX-V1400 or RX-V1500?

    I'm planning to upgrade my RX-V1300 to any of these model, kahit used ok lang. But I dont know which one I have to buy. 

    Thanks for any info. :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: keema on Apr 21, 2006 at 09:53 AM
guys..tulong naman..:)
regarding yamaha avr..have u adjust your parameter settings in your avr, like the ff:
-SB. INI. DLY
-SB. ROOM SIZE
-s. INI. DLY
-S. ROOM SIZE
-P. INI. DLY
-P. ROOM SIZE
-DSP LEVEL
(para san po ba to?) pa explain naman...:)

and i would just like to know the adjustments you have made and will it help improve the surround sound when watching movies...maraming salamat...

pahabol pa...:)
my room is 25sq.m and im just using only a sat/ sub...maybe u can help me adjust my parameters settings that u think will improve the sound..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jeppoy on May 01, 2006 at 11:06 AM
guys! ano masasabi nyo sa v1400? mas okay ba sya sa 657? Ano feedback? thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ronjet on May 02, 2006 at 01:08 AM
any news on *59 ?

bump din for sir jeppoy sirndy sir keema and sir pinoyrod ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hattori_hanzo on May 02, 2006 at 10:11 AM
one memeber here will be having a 659 soon, he'll import it using a balik bayan box, lets see he's insight... 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: atomicat10 on May 04, 2006 at 11:02 PM
cnet review here:http://reviews.cnet.com/Yamaha_RX_V659/4505-6466_7-31855319.html?tag=pdtl-list  (http://reviews.cnet.com/Yamaha_RX_V659/4505-6466_7-31855319.html?tag=pdtl-list)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jomonds on May 05, 2006 at 12:12 AM
guys! ano masasabi nyo sa v1400? mas okay ba sya sa 657? Ano feedback? thanks!

I have the 1400 pero di ko pa na-compare with the 657.  So far, no regrets on the 1400.  I think this amp likes being driven hard/loud.  You'll get to really appreciate the power of this amp as you bring it to high volumes.  Solid yung sound, and not bright at all.  Yamaha amps are known to be suited for HT instead of audio, but the 1400 is quite capable for both.  Maraming DSP surround modes, but 95% of the time I just use the Adventure mode on DTS (kung available).  The amp is quite heavy (which is good, I think).   I'm just a casual listener, so you may want to rely on more expert reviews on these sites:

http://www.homecinemachoice.com/cgi-bin/displayreview.php?reviewid=3975

http://search.ecoustics.com/a.php?search=RXV1400+or+Yamaha%20RX-V1400%20Receiver

http://www.audioreview.com/cat/amplification/a-v-receivers/yamaha/PRD_288782_2718crx.aspx

 :)
- jomonds
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jeppoy on May 05, 2006 at 10:43 AM
pa phase out na ba 1400?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on May 05, 2006 at 11:06 AM
pa phase out na ba 1400?

Matagal na bro. 1500 was last year's model and meron nang 1600. But since yamaha always trickles down their older technology to newer lower models. Its safe to assume that the 1400 has its technology trickled down to the Yamaha 750, except for the amp. They use a different amp for the x50 and the x500 (or x400) series.

And the 1400 is THX certified, and one of the THX licensing criteria is "'The power amplifiers should be unconditionally stable, have a power output in excess of 100W per channel into 8 ohms, have low distortion and wide dynamic range". The quote is from Lucasfilm's Home THX Design And Licensing Manual.

I dont know where I read this, but the lower series' posted power ratings are stereo (2 channel) and they divide it to 5,6 or 7 channels when you use multi channel. Thats why the lower series true power ratings in multichannel reach only about 30+w when I saw it in a review.

I think this is also the reason why I have read or heard some have commented that Yamaha sounds thin or underpowered. This is due to the fact that they were referring to the lower series of Yamaha (w/c is commonly used by more people) and not the higher 1x00 and the 2x00 series. I, for one , am guilty of this, having used a 450 and 650 before.

just my 2 cents


*lower series refers to RXV350/7, 450/7, 550/7, 650/7, 750.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on May 05, 2006 at 11:14 AM
Come to think of it, the lower series weigh around 25 lbs while the higher series weigh +/- 40 lbs.

But like someone once said, you wont be able to use the whole 30+w, and on all channels for that matter anyway.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ricky on May 05, 2006 at 06:10 PM
Matagal na bro. 1500 was last year's model and meron nang 1600. But since yamaha always trickles down their older technology to newer lower models. Its safe to assume that the 1400 has its technology trickled down to the Yamaha 750, except for the amp. They use a different amp for the x50 and the x500 (or x400) series.

And the 1400 is THX certified, and one of the THX licensing criteria is "'The power amplifiers should be unconditionally stable, have a power output in excess of 100W per channel into 8 ohms, have low distortion and wide dynamic range". The quote is from Lucasfilm's Home THX Design And Licensing Manual.

I dont know where I read this, but the lower series' posted power ratings are stereo (2 channel) and they divide it to 5,6 or 7 channels when you use multi channel. Thats why the lower series true power ratings in multichannel reach only about 30+w when I saw it in a review.

I think this is also the reason why I have read or heard some have commented that Yamaha sounds thin or underpowered. This is due to the fact that they were referring to the lower series of Yamaha (w/c is commonly used by more people) and not the higher 1x00 and the 2x00 series. I, for one , am guilty of this, having used a 450 and 650 before.

just my 2 cents


*lower series refers to RXV350/7, 450/7, 550/7, 650/7, 750.

Yung RX-v800 ko payat din even mid model na sya :( pero pag may sub na sa audio listening ok na din ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: crenshaw on May 08, 2006 at 12:09 PM
guys? what are the best speakers for the yamy 657? for a 30k budget, yung upgrade proof na rin? pure HT.. thanks?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hattori_hanzo on May 08, 2006 at 02:37 PM
guys? what are the best speakers for the yamy 657? for a 30k budget, yung upgrade proof na rin? pure HT.. thanks?

Definitive technology, pro cinema under 30k...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: turismo1997 on May 14, 2006 at 12:54 PM
hi all , I need help.

pag pina power on ko yung yamaha receiver ko, mamatay agad.. medyo mga months din ang lumipas bago ko nagamit ulit to at matagal din na di ito naka plug.

my unit is rxv 1500.


thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hattori_hanzo on May 14, 2006 at 01:16 PM
hi all , I need help.

pag pina power on ko yung yamaha receiver ko, mamatay agad.. medyo mga months din ang lumipas bago ko nagamit ulit to at matagal din na di ito naka plug.

my unit is rxv 1500.


thanks

baka may faulty connections check mo maige connections mo from source (player) to output (speakers) if problem persist baka may problema yung yamaha amp mo.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: turismo1997 on May 14, 2006 at 03:12 PM
yup. I checked the connections. ok naman. wala naman nag cross na cable, lalo na sa speaker..

any ideas kung saan service center aside from yupangco ang ok.. lalo na yung pwede mag home service.. thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on May 14, 2006 at 03:58 PM
Yamaha Sales and Service: 

Audio World Tech. located at 749 Banawe cor. Sct. Alcaraz, in between Retiro and Delmonte ave.
Tel.7327716 and 7426843

They have their own thread here:  http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=31712.100.

Please try posting an inquiry.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: turismo1997 on May 15, 2006 at 11:24 AM
Thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: eagumban on May 16, 2006 at 11:11 AM
hi all , I need help.

pag pina power on ko yung yamaha receiver ko, mamatay agad.. medyo mga months din ang lumipas bago ko nagamit ulit to at matagal din na di ito naka plug.

my unit is rxv 1500.


thanks
Bro,

You may try to remove all the speaker wires at the back of your amp and power it up afterwards.  If the trouble is on your speakers, then there should be a message displayed on the screen of the amp. If the amp will shut down again, then there's a problem with your amp. Hope this helps isolate the problem.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: turismo1997 on May 16, 2006 at 07:57 PM
ok i'll try that.. thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jojitv on May 18, 2006 at 05:52 AM
Any Yamaha RX-V450 - B&W 602s3 users out there. Just wanted to know if they would match. Or does the speaker need a more powerful avr? Thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: deo on May 18, 2006 at 06:23 AM
MAY BALAK KASING BUMILI NUNG ISA JAN...KASI NA INCREASAN ANG SWELDO... :d MAG AVR435 NA KASI :p OR DENON 3105..SUREBALL! HEHEHEHE!!! :p


Any Yamaha RX-V450 - B&W 602s3 users out there. Just wanted to know if they would match. Or does the speaker need a more powerful avr? Thanks.

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jojitv on May 18, 2006 at 06:47 AM
MAY BALAK KASING BUMILI NUNG ISA JAN...KASI NA INCREASAN ANG SWELDO... :d MAG AVR435 NA KASI :p OR DENON 3105..SUREBALL! HEHEHEHE!!! :p




naku!!! doble gastos yan. Speakers na lang muna babalakin ko.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on May 18, 2006 at 12:10 PM
Any Yamaha RX-V450 - B&W 602s3 users out there. Just wanted to know if they would match. Or does the speaker need a more powerful avr? Thanks.

I was a 450 user when I started my first separates.

You DEFINITELY need at least a Yamaha 1400/1500/1600 to power your B&W's, or higher models to make them sound their best.

Also, try Yamaha 650 w/ pre outs and Rotel power amp. Rotels are said to be a good match for B&W since the B&W factory use Rotels to test their speakers.

gastos! gastos! gastos!  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: audibleillusions on May 18, 2006 at 03:24 PM
Any Yamaha RX-V450 - B&W 602s3 users out there. Just wanted to know if they would match. Or does the speaker need a more powerful avr? Thanks.


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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jojitv on May 19, 2006 at 02:21 AM
I was a 450 user when I started my first separates.

You DEFINITELY need at least a Yamaha 1400/1500/1600 to power your B&W's, or higher models to make them sound their best.

Also, try Yamaha 650 w/ pre outs and Rotel power amp. Rotels are said to be a good match for B&W since the B&W factory use Rotels to test their speakers.

gastos! gastos! gastos!  ;D

nakow!!! gastos nga talaga yan. So you think an amp upgrade would be a better path?  ???


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NEW HERE IN THIS PLACE
just want to let you know that the location of the store is @ 50D TIMOG AVENUE. QUEZON CITY
FEEL FREE TO DROP BY VISIT THE PLACE

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Thanks for the invite sir. Will try and visit your shop one of these days. The more choices, the better.

May installment ba kayo?  hihihi ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers (750 Speaker set-up Question)
Post by: Lawin on Jun 05, 2006 at 04:32 PM
Hi guys!

I noticed that when I changed the 750's LFe out from sub ; fronts or BOTH. Mas malakas ang bass pagkanaka BOTH. Pag nag-fronts lang ako manipis ang BASS coming out from my Euros8 tower ( I asked this before in the Daichi speakers thread), bag subwoofer out naman syempre ma-improve ng subwoofer yung BASS. Hindi ko kasi maenjoy ang stereo mode listening lang using my Euro's8 tower lang dahil medyo manipis nga BASS.

Is this normal  ??? ?Medyo concern lang ako if its my Yamaha or the Euro'8 or mali ang set-up ko. Appreciate your comments
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers (750 Speaker set-up Question)
Post by: MAtZTER on Jun 05, 2006 at 05:04 PM
nakow!!! gastos nga talaga yan. So you think an amp upgrade would be a better path?  ???

Lol, either an amp upgrade or a speaker downgrade  ;D.

The power amp option is a practical path if you come to think of it. You only need to buy the good power amp once and every time there are new technologies, upgrade the (mid level) processor/AVR w/ pre outs and you can still retain the power amp.

Hi guys!

I noticed that when I changed the 750's LFe out from sub ; fronts or BOTH. Mas malakas ang bass pagkanaka BOTH. Pag nag-fronts lang ako manipis ang BASS coming out from my Euros8 tower ( I asked this before in the Daichi speakers thread), bag subwoofer out naman syempre ma-improve ng subwoofer yung BASS. Hindi ko kasi maenjoy ang stereo mode listening lang using my Euro's8 tower lang dahil medyo manipis nga BASS.

Is this normal  ??? ?Medyo concern lang ako if its my Yamaha or the Euro'8 or mali ang set-up ko. Appreciate your comments

I went to my bro in law's house yesterday and listened to his Yamaha 650 with Monitor audio B2 (bookshelf).

I did the same things you did (2 channel only, w/ sub, etc.) and came up with the same observation.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers (750 Speaker set-up Question)
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Jun 05, 2006 at 05:57 PM
Hi guys!

I noticed that when I changed the 750's LFe out from sub ; fronts or BOTH. Mas malakas ang bass pagkanaka BOTH. Pag nag-fronts lang ako manipis ang BASS coming out from my Euros8 tower ( I asked this before in the Daichi speakers thread), bag subwoofer out naman syempre ma-improve ng subwoofer yung BASS. Hindi ko kasi maenjoy ang stereo mode listening lang using my Euro's8 tower lang dahil medyo manipis nga BASS.

Is this normal  ??? ?Medyo concern lang ako if its my Yamaha or the Euro'8 or mali ang set-up ko. Appreciate your comments

bro same here,...

when listening to DSP rock concert, dance, I set the subwoofer to both, bass would be present at the sub and it pumps punchy and very good...

when listening to DSP concert hall, jazz I set the subwoofer to sw, then turn on the bass boost button and tada! bass would have a over all tonal balance with the fronts...

when watching HT, enhanced DD or DTS, I set the subwoofer to sw only, then LFE will be sent to the sub... it only activates the sub when an LFE signal is present...(like explosions, car hits, bombs go off etc. etc.) but mostly the sub is silent...

 ;) good thing about Yamaha is their zone 2 switch, can be used as a pre amp for the T-amp hehehe!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
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According to yamaha

notes:

when multi channel signals ( Dolby digital and DTS) are input they are downmixed to 2 channels and output from the front left and right speakers.

when BASS OUT is set to both, or FRONT set to SMALL and BASS OUT Set to SWFR, from left and right speakers low-frequency signals are redirected to the subwoofer
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: audibleillusions on Jun 16, 2006 at 02:19 PM
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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Dracula on Jun 30, 2006 at 08:24 AM
do wharfedale diamond 9s pair well with yamaha receivers?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: FlyMe on Jul 01, 2006 at 10:36 AM
I wanna try Yamaha this time. Anyone got the 659? please give some feed backs.

Corect me if I'm wrong, aside from more power in audio, the difference between the 659 and the 1600/2600 is the HDMI handling, descaling and upscaling.

Looking at these three amps... I dont need the power of the 1600 and 2600 but I need the HDMI out, descaling and upcaling features... Leaning towards the 2600 becasue of upscaling capabilities.

Another option I have is get the 659 and connect the dvd straight to the projector...

Hmmm...

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sillyputty on Jul 02, 2006 at 03:03 PM
you might want to rethink the hdmi handling feature...

do you have hdmi capable players?
do you have hdmi capable display? is this display big enough to actually show the diff between the multiple video resolutions.

kapag may sagot na NO e baka di mo kailangan yung hdmi switching
pero syempre iba din yung future-proof na yung bibilhin mo hehehe
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Jul 02, 2006 at 06:46 PM
hindi pa din yta 'future proof' ang 2600 since hdmi ver. 1.1 lang ang specs nya. I have read that  Dolby TrueHD and dtsHD is only supported on ver. 1.3 :-\

BTW, meron na ba 659 dito sa atin? Last week I scouted for one pero wala pa daw? Balak ko na palitan yung yammy ko na antigo.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: FlyMe on Jul 02, 2006 at 09:22 PM
Thanks for the reply sillyputty,

My display is capable of receiving HDMI but only 480p. Currently, I'm using a 70 x70 screen and will be upgrading to 45 x 80 when I find the right screen.

As for the DVD player, I plan to get the Denon 1920...

Now as for the amp, I'm not sure what get.

With all the hype of HDMI, I want to dive into it and give it a try.

659 available at audioworld...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Jul 02, 2006 at 11:38 PM
ok. . .sa audioworld pala meron.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Music4Life on Jul 03, 2006 at 01:29 AM
I wanna try Yamaha this time. Anyone got the 659? please give some feed backs.



I replaced my 5 year old Yamaha  RX-V420 (5.1 channels), sell it to my brother in law together with the Yamaha satellite speaker and the Sub. I bought last week the RX-V659 to drive my CM1 (front), Heco Signature Center, Magnat Sub and the Bose Acoustimass 5 v.2 as Bipolar surround speakers. I am so happy with the upgrade. The difference between my old and new yamaha is really obvious. The 659's sound is more refined, clearer, sweeter and authoritative. The YPAO's is really nice. No need to set it up manually (tho you can), the machine will do it for you. Just make sure, before you use this function, your surrounding is peaceful and quiet. I haven't touch any of the features (no time). Just set it up, plug the ypao's microphone then in an instant your done. This is also a quite heavy machine which will tell you, something's very important inside. I need a set of speakers for the 6th and the 7th channel. I don't think there are DVD movies right now that is recorded in 7.1 channels. Didn't the Dolby Digital and the DTS are recorded in 5.1 channels? Question is, do I need a pair of speakers? Oh one more thing, the yamaha's remote control is a universal RC. You can use this to control your DVD, TV, CDP, 2 channel amp.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: DVD_Freak on Jul 03, 2006 at 06:16 AM

I replaced my 5 year old Yamaha  RX-V420 (5.1 channels), sell it to my brother in law together with the Yamaha satellite speaker and the Sub. I bought last week the RX-V659 to drive my CM1 (front), Heco Signature Center, Magnat Sub and the Bose Acoustimass 5 v.2 as Bipolar surround speakers. I am so happy with the upgrade. The difference between my old and new yamaha is really obvious. The 659's sound is more refined, clearer, sweeter and authoritative. The YPAO's is really nice. No need to set it up manually (tho you can), the machine will do it for you. Just make sure, before you use this function, your surrounding is peaceful and quiet. I haven't touch any of the features (no time). Just set it up, plug the ypao's microphone then in an instant your done. This is also a quite heavy machine which will tell you, something's very important inside. I need a set of speakers for the 6th and the 7th channel. I don't think there are DVD movies right now that is recorded in 7.1 channels. Didn't the Dolby Digital and the DTS are recorded in 5.1 channels? Question is, do I need a pair of speakers? Oh one more thing, the yamaha's remote control is a universal RC. You can use this to control your DVD, TV, CDP, 2 channel amp.

How much is it?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: FlyMe on Jul 03, 2006 at 08:19 AM
Question is, do I need a pair of speakers? Oh one more thing, the yamaha's remote control is a universal RC. You can use this to control your DVD, TV, CDP, 2 channel amp.

Same question I have, is there a big diff if we add pairfor the 6th and 7th?

Music4Life,

Thanks for the 659 info.

As for the remote, I'm sure you can use it for the DVD, TV and others. Just go through the manual. I'm afraid you have to squeeze it in your busy schedule. Another nice option is third universal remote, Matz I think still has one on stock.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jul 03, 2006 at 10:33 AM
I wanna try Yamaha this time. Anyone got the 659? please give some feed backs.

Corect me if I'm wrong, aside from more power in audio, the difference between the 659 and the 1600/2600 is the HDMI handling, descaling and upscaling.

Looking at these three amps... I dont need the power of the 1600 and 2600 but I need the HDMI out, descaling and upcaling features... Leaning towards the 2600 becasue of upscaling capabilities.

Another option I have is get the 659 and connect the dvd straight to the projector...

If you dont need the power of the 1600/2600. Then its more practical to get a good upscaling DVD player instead. I have seen the 2600 upscaling a composite signal to component, and it didnt look that good on a 32" LCD TV (ano pa kaya on a bigger display). It was very grainy and didnt look like component picture at all. I also read at a review at audioholics.com that the upscaling features of the 2600 are not as good (of course) as other scalers since its just an added feature.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ricky on Jul 03, 2006 at 10:56 AM
Flyme Tama si matz ,if you want to go into HDMI connections better get the dvd player with HDMI output and connect it directly to your monitor.You dont need to hook it up to your AVR before the monitor since it would only require you additional cables(expensive :( ) and might contribute to signal loss pa kung marami pang links na dadaanan. The best pa din yung direct connections. And bro you mentioned that your display can only handle up to 480p so getting a dvd player or AVR with HDMI will only be a waste of money since you cannot get the maximum resolution out of it (i.e. 720p,1080i or 1080p) since your monitor limited only to 480p. With 480p displays ok na ok na yung COMPONENT connection, so just get the AVR with the highest power rating that you can afford instead of spending for dvdp and HDMI cables. saka na lang bro pag yung display/monitor mo can handle 720p and up resolutions ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Music4Life on Jul 03, 2006 at 11:07 AM
How much is it?  Thanks.

I'm from Hong Kong. I bought it for HK$3,600 it is around PHP24,600.

I am upgrading my electronics in the past few weeks. I sold my old one to my brother in law and I still have NAD C340 lying around. It is still a very good amp.

My new stuff are: NAD C521BEE + C372 + B&W CM1 for stereo listening.
Yamaha 659 for movies. I use my old Bose AM5II as a bipolar surround speaker.

The 659 is a bit bright in my ears as far as music is concerned. Kelangan ng warmer sounding CDP to balance it out. Still, it is a decent 2 channel stereo amp. Activate the "Pure Direct" and you have a 140 watts of power each channel.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Music4Life on Jul 03, 2006 at 11:17 AM
Same question I have, is there a big diff if we add pairfor the 6th and 7th?

Music4Life, Thanks for the 659 info.


Hindi ko pa nasusubukan and 6th & 7th channel. I'm sure it is there for a purpose. Question is, do I need it? DD and DTS are recorded in a 5.1 channels.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: FlyMe on Jul 03, 2006 at 12:54 PM
Matz and Ricky, thanks for the advice. You're right, its just the HDMI bug biting me. Will take your advice, will probably get a denon 1920 and hook it up directly to my projector... Hmmm, should I sell my 480p and get a AE? Heh.... Maybe...

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jul 03, 2006 at 01:59 PM
Same question I have, is there a big diff if we add pairfor the 6th and 7th?

Hindi ko pa nasusubukan and 6th & 7th channel. I'm sure it is there for a purpose. Question is, do I need it? DD and DTS are recorded in a 5.1 channels.

I have a 7.1 setup, you can see it at the HT gallery. Cool na cool pag may 6th & 7th Channel when watching some DTS-ES & DD-EX titles (though not that many releases). Lalo na Asian releases, they tend to use (/exagerate) surrounds, left-right front to back panning a lot. I just watched Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence last night, galing ng surround sequences! Lalo na 6th & 7th channel utilization nya

Other movies with cool 6th & 7th channel action:
Monsters Inc. DTS-ES (Boo crying in Mike's apartment)
Hero DTS-ES (Blue Room)
HOFD DTS-ES (pebble throwing/ drum room)
SE7EN (NLPs) DTS-ES, lots of surrounds
Domino DTS-ES
Texas Chainsaw Massacre DTS-ES
The Promise DTS-ES (Wuhuan vs Snow Wolf scene)

But like I said, 7.1 releases are few and those sequences using the full medium are only few as well. So depending on your level of HT enthusiasm  ;),  5.1 is ok na rin.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Music4Life on Jul 03, 2006 at 02:09 PM
For now, I don't think a pair of speakers for 6th & 7th channels are necessary. Just as I thought, pasulpot sulpot lang naman yung effects na lalabas sa kanya, wag na lang. Maybe it will be a max. of 5 minute effect in a 2 hour movie. Not worth it.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 5Speed on Jul 03, 2006 at 05:58 PM
I have a 6.1 setup and all I can say is paminsan minsan lang tumutunog yung back surround ko...kapag DTS-es lang yung dvd na pinapanood ko nagkakaron ng action yung back surround, other than that eh nakatambay lang sya don sa likuran ;D

pag nag-6 channel stereo naman ako pakikinig ng cd eh parang ang gulo ng tunog....hehehehe so naka-two channel direct ako kapag cd listening lang....

so sa ngayon eh wla syang masyadong gamit, unless lang na puro me DTS-es na recording ang bibilihin mong DVD.... :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: classicman on Jul 03, 2006 at 06:22 PM
pag ordinary 5.1dd or dts encoded lang ang disc na pinapanood, try nyong ilagay sa "Spectacle" ang DSP mode then press "Extd. Sur." button on your remote para maging "Dolby EX" or "ES Matrix" sya & para tumunog ang sorround backs (6th/7th speakers) nyo 8)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Music4Life on Jul 04, 2006 at 01:09 AM
pag ordinary 5.1dd or dts encoded lang ang disc na pinapanood, try nyong ilagay sa "Spectacle" ang DSP mode then press "Extd. Sur." button on your remote para maging "Dolby EX" or "ES Matrix" sya & para tumunog ang sorround backs (6th/7th speakers) nyo 8)

Geez, thanks for an informative advice. Honestly, I haven't explore the manual yet. Just want that machine to work right away.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Stoned Wall on Jul 04, 2006 at 03:48 PM
How much is it?  Thanks.

A friend of mine got his RX-V659 at Sight and Sound Shangri-la mall for Php27.1k. FYI.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: lakambini on Jul 04, 2006 at 04:33 PM
gentlemen,

wow, 27k for 659, i that's a pretty reasonable amount.  how much is the dsp ax757se?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: atomicat10 on Jul 13, 2006 at 10:25 AM
Wala pa bang full review ng 659 galing sa new owners? ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Platinum on Jul 13, 2006 at 10:51 AM
Brand new 2500 at P40k?! Is this reasonable?
Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. God bless us  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jul 13, 2006 at 03:00 PM
Brand new 2500 at P40k?! Is this reasonable?
Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. God bless us  :)

YES!!! Get it!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: marckd1 on Jul 14, 2006 at 02:15 PM
best buy na yan
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: atomicat10 on Jul 15, 2006 at 06:15 PM
go for the 2600 ask at SGT HT
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jul 16, 2006 at 11:40 AM
Malayo presyo ng 2600 sa 2500, about 20k diff., and its more practical to just get an upconverting HDMI DVD player and another receiver for that price.

Rommel, as I recall 43k ang presyo ng 2500 dati. Baka pwede pang tawaran yang 40k na yan.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ericag_ph on Jul 17, 2006 at 02:59 PM
I have the Yamaha RXV-2095 (P95K in yr.1998 and weighs 55 lbs, it can do 7.1 channels), and they work well with Wharfedale Diamond 8.4/Center/DFS.
My volume is set at the 9:00 position usually  (6:00 = 0 volume), and it is too loud already for my ears to handle.


oh, btw, my HT room pictures:
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=55046.msg601343#msg601343


do wharfedale diamond 9s pair well with yamaha receivers?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dimple_guy0619 on Jul 18, 2006 at 11:32 AM
Go for Yamaha rxv-2500. ganda tumunog yan. I have one kasi, di ka lugi
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Platinum on Jul 19, 2006 at 10:05 AM
Mga Bossing Mabuhay kayo,
Thanks a lot for your advise. Isip isip muna kasi
I'm also considering a Rotel power amp to be connected to my existing
Denon amp, which is also recommended by some of our Maestros.
Salamat ulit.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ricky on Jul 19, 2006 at 10:27 AM
yes for that price better get a power amp :) preferably a ROTEL 1075 ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Munskie on Jul 19, 2006 at 10:38 AM
yes for that price better get a power amp :) preferably a ROTEL 1075 ;D
if i have that budget too, separates is the way to go... :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: classicman on Jul 19, 2006 at 10:50 AM
I'm also considering a Rotel power amp to be connected to my existing
Denon amp, which is also recommended by some of our Maestros.
Salamat ulit.  :)

yes for that price better get a power amp :) preferably a ROTEL 1075 ;D

if i have that budget too, separates is the way to go... :)


i totally agree w/ ricky & Munskie, better get the RMB-1075 of Myki posted at the Buy & Sell section, i think he's selling it for P45k only 8)
Title: My YAMAHA home theater cum karaoke bar with pictures
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Jul 19, 2006 at 09:45 PM
Equipment:

Receiver  -  Yamaha RXV-550
Fronts  -  DIY
Center  -  Yamaha
Surrounds  -  Generic China-made
Subwoofer  -  US Audio 12"
Video  -  Sony 32" wide Pier surplus with orig remote from Sir Fandvd
System Rack  -  Steel scaffolding shelves from SM Ace Hardware

DVD player - Extreme
Karaoke  -  Karavision 9,300++ songs
Mic mixer voice enhancer  -  Magus
Microphones  -  Shure SM58 wired mic x 2, Nady Wireless mic x 2

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k239/fnvillafuerte/yammy_01.jpg)

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k239/fnvillafuerte/yammy_02.jpg)

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k239/fnvillafuerte/yammy_03.jpg)

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k239/fnvillafuerte/yammy_04.jpg)

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k239/fnvillafuerte/yammy_05.jpg)

I am selling the Yamaha RXV-550 for 9.5k posted in the buy and sell section so I can upgrade to Yamaha RXV-659.

Thanks for looking.

 ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: watson's box on Jul 21, 2006 at 09:31 PM
Need help here... i've got a yamaha 650 and i've been tinkering with the settings for the different sound fields, i was wondering how can i make the dolby digital enhanced mode coupled with the SPECTACLE program sound larger with reverberations such as in the "concert hall" program? the different settings such as dsp levels aren't clearly explained in the manual..can anyone share their settings? thanks!  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Jul 22, 2006 at 10:13 AM
Need help here... i've got a yamaha 650 and i've been tinkering with the settings for the different sound fields, i was wondering how can i make the dolby digital enhanced mode coupled with the SPECTACLE program sound larger with reverberations such as in the "concert hall" program? the different settings such as dsp levels aren't clearly explained in the manual..can anyone share their settings? thanks!  :)

Having a Dolby Digital signal as a source, you cannot use DD Enhanced at the same time with the Spectacle mode. Yamaha receivers have their own DSP, "DD Enhanced" is Dolby Digital but is Enhanced using Yamaha Digital Signal Processing or CinemaDSP, Spectacle is a different DSP mode or , say, "enhancement". At these modes, there are different setting parameters that can be adjusted to your taste, you may have to tinker with it a bit.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ndy on Aug 01, 2006 at 06:38 PM
bump lang ulit any reviews on the x59 series ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Music4Life on Aug 02, 2006 at 10:44 AM
bump lang ulit any reviews on the x59 series ;D


I have the 659 for over a month now and I am totally satisfied with it. What can I say, it has everything you need to enjoy a good movie, oh except the HDMI connection (who cares?). I auditioned it against the Marantz 7500, Denon 2807, Pioneer 816 and the NAD743. It is the most suitable for my taste as far as the sound quality for HT and music for the price. I was so much inclined of buying the Marantz but I am totally disappointed with it's stereo sound as well as the Denon. The NAD is very good but the price difference is unjustified, plus it lacks the features of what the 659 can give you (automatic sound optimizer and some surround soundfield). So in the end I settle for the Yamaha. My first receiver is also Yamaha and I am thinking of getting a different brand, but in the end you will get what suits you. I ended up buying another Yamaha. Again, I highly recommend this one. This is a winner!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: lakambini on Aug 02, 2006 at 10:57 AM
Music4Life,

Congrats sa new avr mo!  The new 659 now sports a burr brown dacs known for its outstanding quality in music reproduction.  In addition, this same dac is used to the high-end cdp of other brands.  Moreover, the previous top-of-the-line avrs of yamaha uses this same dac.

A few years ago, i am also considering getting a yam avr because of its outstanding features and excellent sound in movie.  However, i observed then that it lacks dynamics in hardcore action movies and sound dull on movies.  In short, i ended up getting an onkyo avr.

However, the yams have improved on their avrs recently regarding its "power".  And some of the reviews on the internet have high regards of the 657, edging out denon's 2106 on performance and features.

With the latest 659, i am now thinking on upgrading my avr.  Available ba titanium color?  Where did you buy the avr?  How much is it?

Thanks!

Ano nga pala partnering equipment mo sa 659?   
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 02, 2006 at 10:59 AM
Yamaha Announces RX-V2700 and RX-V1700 Receivers! click  (http://www.audioholics.com/news/pressreleases/YamahaRXV2700receiver.php)

Sana mag less 50% off na ang 1600 and 2500  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ndy on Aug 02, 2006 at 11:20 AM
Yamaha Announces RX-V2700 and RX-V1700 Receivers! click  (http://www.audioholics.com/news/pressreleases/YamahaRXV2700receiver.php)

Sana mag less 50% off na ang 1600 and 2500  ;D
pabor ako dyan pero ano ba presyo ng 1600 as today?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 02, 2006 at 12:11 PM
pabor ako dyan pero ano ba presyo ng 1600 as today?

Hehe, 60k  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ricky on Aug 02, 2006 at 12:26 PM
Hehe, 60k  ;D

Matt for this price you might want to consider the rotel 1068 ;) sorry ot :-[
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Munskie on Aug 02, 2006 at 12:34 PM
1600 ba kukuhanin mo matt?  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 02, 2006 at 12:38 PM
1600 ba kukuhanin mo matt?  :)

Pag 50% off, siguro. Hehe. Pero I dont need all its extra features for the big price difference. Ok na yung 1500.

Pero tempting yung Burr Brown ng 1600.

Matt for this price you might want to consider the rotel 1068 ;) sorry ot :-[

Hehe, isip isip lang naman eh.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Stoned Wall on Aug 02, 2006 at 03:06 PM
Pag 50% off, siguro. Hehe. Pero I dont need all its extra features for the big price difference. Ok na yung 1500.

Pero tempting yung Burr Brown ng 1600.

Hehe, isip isip lang naman eh.

Sir Mat,

Last month, when I was helping a friend shop around for a 659, we were quoted by Sights and Sound Shangri-la mall for 49k for the 1600 and around 64k for the 2600. No stock for the 1500 though. FYI.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 02, 2006 at 03:47 PM
Thanks  :).

I am also aware of these prices. But they are still too high for me.

Anyway, isip isip lang  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ricky on Aug 02, 2006 at 03:52 PM
Pare wag ka na mag-isip, makakalbo ka lang nyan :o Bili na agad tapos saka ka na lang mag-sisi ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: classicman on Aug 02, 2006 at 10:34 PM
Pag 50% off, siguro. Hehe. Pero I dont need all its extra features for the big price difference. Ok na yung 1500.

Pero tempting yung Burr Brown ng 1600.

Hehe, isip isip lang naman eh.


hmmnnn ::).......mukhang malalim ang iniisip nyo master MAtZ ah, babalik ka na ba sa dating daan....... ;D ;D ;D 8)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: leomar on Aug 03, 2006 at 11:28 AM
mura po ba ang yammy 659 for SGD800? sa sim lim pede pa tumawad...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kojie on Aug 03, 2006 at 08:39 PM
mga sir need some advice kung ano ba ok between the yamaha 457 or 557

Speakers will be
Diamond 9.1
Diamond 9cs
Diamond 9sr
Us Audio subs

Tnx


Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Aug 04, 2006 at 09:30 AM
mga sir need some advice kung ano ba ok between the yamaha 457 or 557

Speakers will be
Diamond 9.1
Diamond 9cs
Diamond 9sr
Us Audio subs

Tnx



If it were me, I'd go for the 457. Why? Not much of a difference between the two. A 5 Watt power difference? So? The 457 seems more cost effective for me. But that's just me.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Aug 04, 2006 at 10:57 AM

If it were me, I'd go for the 457. Why? Not much of a difference between the two. A 5 Watt power difference? So? The 457 seems more cost effective for me. But that's just me.  :)

me too! the 5 watt difference is just cosmetics - marketing watts!  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 04, 2006 at 11:51 AM
I agree. Next major consideration would be the 657/659 for its pre out function and then the 1500/1600 for the different amp section used.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Aug 04, 2006 at 12:15 PM
I agree. Next major consideration would be the 657/659 for its pre out function and then the 1500/1600 for the different amp section used.

I wonder how much 1600 will re-sell if another model to supercede it comes out? A good upgrade direction.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 04, 2006 at 12:32 PM
I wonder how much 1600 will re-sell if another model to supercede it comes out? A good upgrade direction.  :)

Based from my inquiries from their older models. It would range from less 25% to less 40% from the SRP (1600 SRP @ 60k) , depending on how old the model is. Less 40% would be 2-3 year old models like the rxv 2300.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kojie on Aug 04, 2006 at 01:33 PM
tnx for the info :D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ndy on Aug 05, 2006 at 10:40 PM
any yammie users using the presence speakers? love to hear comments. thank you.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Aug 07, 2006 at 09:16 AM
any yammie users using the presence speakers? love to hear comments. thank you.

Using the presence channel does widen the front soundfield. I usually use it if my source is just 5.1. It would be great if my 650 can power all 9 channels at the same time.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jdg on Aug 07, 2006 at 11:55 AM
ano na ba ang cheapest na yamaha avr?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Aug 08, 2006 at 09:48 AM
ano na ba ang cheapest na yamaha avr?

AFAIK, to date the RX-V357 is the least expensive. But I'd suggest getting a used one, maybe a 350.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jdg on Aug 09, 2006 at 07:27 AM
AFAIK, to date the RX-V357 is the least expensive. But I'd suggest getting a used one, maybe a 350.  ;)

sir anong price range nung mga nabanggit niyong models bnew and 2ndhand?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: DVD_Freak on Aug 09, 2006 at 08:23 AM
sir anong price range nung mga nabanggit niyong models bnew and 2ndhand?

Yun 357 10-12K yata.  350 would probably be in the range of 7-9K.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Aug 09, 2006 at 01:43 PM
Hey Sir Brian (DVD Freak),

Musta na po?  Thank you very much for the kindness ha? The Yamaha amp you sold me is just great. Hope you're new set up would be fabulous. God Bless!  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: DVD_Freak on Aug 09, 2006 at 01:51 PM
Hey Arthur!  Doing good here bro.  I'm glad you're happy with the amp.  Tagal pa ng HT room ko.  Still about 2 weeks to go at the very least.

My RX-V657 is still comfortably sitting inside the box in the bedroom.   ;D

Say hello to wifey for me.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Aug 09, 2006 at 02:00 PM
Paki na rin po sa wife mo na napaka accomodating. See you...  ;D

Para di OT: The prices DVD Freak quoted are pretty accurate. My friend recently got a 350 for 8K from a fellow pinoyDVDer.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jdg on Aug 09, 2006 at 02:06 PM
sir yung rx-v357 na ba ang pinaka latest na entry level ng yamaha locally and bnew na ba yung 10k-12k? tnx!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Aug 09, 2006 at 02:16 PM
sir yung rx-v357 na ba ang pinaka latest na entry level ng yamaha locally and bnew na ba yung 10k-12k? tnx!

I would think so and yup to your 2nd question. Meron na kasing X59 series e, but only saw 659, no 359 only 357. But I'd still suggest scouting for a 350 since the only difference between the X50 and X57 is the XM radio which is useless here in the Philippines, the X59 has compressed music enhancer, which may be nice to some but not necessary to others.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: chatstix on Aug 10, 2006 at 04:30 PM
in addition to that, the x57 series that they sell here doesn't have the XM radio
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ndy on Aug 10, 2006 at 04:44 PM
in addition to that, the x57 series that they sell here doesn't have the XM radio
sana nga meron malay natin maybe in the future magka xm tayo e di okay na sana subscription na lang kulang:)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: atomicat10 on Aug 10, 2006 at 08:39 PM
Hey Arthur!  Doing good here bro.  I'm glad you're happy with the amp.  Tagal pa ng HT room ko.  Still about 2 weeks to go at the very least.

My RX-V657 is still comfortably sitting inside the box in the bedroom.   ;D

Say hello to wifey for me.

Sir, once you unleash that platinum amp it would be all worth it! Congrats!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: atomicat10 on Aug 10, 2006 at 08:43 PM
I would think so and yup to your 2nd question. Meron na kasing X59 series e, but only saw 659, no 359 only 357. But I'd still suggest scouting for a 350 since the only difference between the X50 and X57 is the XM radio which is useless here in the Philippines, the X59 has compressed music enhancer, which may be nice to some but not necessary to others.  ;)

The RX-V657 has YPAO and component video upconversion but is only XM radio ready (Useless nga to get the XM radio add on because wala din naman XM radio service sa 'tin).
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: DVD_Freak on Aug 10, 2006 at 10:35 PM
Sir, once you unleash that platinum amp it would be all worth it! Congrats!

Thanks bro!   ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: turismo1997 on Aug 15, 2006 at 02:43 PM
got my 1500 mid last year for 36k. 40k is a good buy for 2500 unless you are planning to upgrade to hdmi on your sources.

Brand new 2500 at P40k?! Is this reasonable?
Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. God bless us  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kojie on Aug 15, 2006 at 07:45 PM
what is the current local pricing for a yamaha 657 .. tnx
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Bravesfan on Aug 16, 2006 at 12:27 AM
Question to fellow members using Yamaha receivers...

My 657 is connected to my Sony DVP-NS575 player using coaxial cable. When watching DTS encoded DVDs I noticed there is no sound output using DTS function in my 657, I have to select DVD-AUTO instead in order to hear a sound. Please note that DSP processing is working fine together with stereo outputs and PURE DIRECT mode. Is this normal? What do I need to do in order to watch movies via DTS processing.

Thanks in advance for you help. :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Rawhide on Aug 16, 2006 at 03:33 AM
Sorry kung medyo OT,

But is someone selling his Yammy 350?

Or can someone point me where to get a good deal on this?

I would really appreciate any help.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: eagumban on Aug 16, 2006 at 08:30 AM
Question to fellow members using Yamaha receivers...

My 657 is connected to my Sony DVP-NS575 player using coaxial cable. When watching DTS encoded DVDs I noticed there is no sound output using DTS function in my 657, I have to select DVD-AUTO instead in order to hear a sound. Please note that DSP processing is working fine together with stereo outputs and PURE DIRECT mode. Is this normal? What do I need to do in order to watch movies via DTS processing.

Thanks in advance for you help. :)

Bro, try to look for the setup of your Sony DVP-NS575 player.  Ussually in their default setting, DTS option is switched off.  I don't know why they do this... Hope this solves your problem ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Jun_P on Aug 16, 2006 at 11:23 AM
what's a good speaker system (individual front, center, surround, LFE or set) to match up with the RXV357? It would be for a 10 sqm room. preferably bookshelf speakers.

thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: atomicat10 on Aug 16, 2006 at 06:58 PM
what's a good speaker system (individual front, center, surround, LFE or set) to match up with the RXV357? It would be for a 10 sqm room. preferably bookshelf speakers.

thanks in advance!

(http://www.weymouthhifi.co.uk/Images/wharfedale/91%20use%20this%20one.jpg)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: audibleillusions on Aug 17, 2006 at 12:21 PM
what's a good speaker system (individual front, center, surround, LFE or set) to match up with the RXV357? It would be for a 10 sqm room. preferably bookshelf speakers.

thanks in advance!

im sure,
magugustuhan nyo b series ng monitor. for 357.
pwede nyo audition dito sa amin.
B2,B1, Bcenter
then the powered sub na polk audio PSW10 or 202
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Jun_P on Aug 17, 2006 at 01:17 PM
im sure,
magugustuhan nyo b series ng monitor. for 357.
pwede nyo audition dito sa amin.
B2,B1, Bcenter
then the powered sub na polk audio PSW10 or 202

Can I please have the specs and price? Again, its just a 15 sqm room, so it doesn't have to be powerful : ;D
Another thing am considering is its power consumption..

You can also PM me... Thanks sir!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Miguel^ on Aug 17, 2006 at 02:15 PM
how much for the b1, b2, and center?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: audibleillusions on Aug 17, 2006 at 04:43 PM

SIR
JUN AND MIGUEL

GOT PM
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Bravesfan on Aug 17, 2006 at 08:37 PM
Bro, try to look for the setup of your Sony DVP-NS575 player.  Ussually in their default setting, DTS option is switched off.  I don't know why they do this... Hope this solves your problem ;)

Got it ... Thank you eagumban!!!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kojie on Aug 18, 2006 at 12:56 AM
any news if the yamaha 459 will soon be available ??

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mheloy on Aug 21, 2006 at 10:24 PM
I've been using RXV-650 with wharefedale 9 series.
napansin ko yung impedance selector is set to default (8ohms) ng receiver ko.
the wharefedale is running at 6 ohm though it says in the manual it is compatible with 8ohms receiver.

any advice?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: atomicat10 on Aug 22, 2006 at 05:49 PM
I own a 657 to power wharfedale 8.4s and the first thing I noticed is that the amp heats up fast if set at 8 ohms. I suggest you go down to 4ohms and please tell me if which sound do you prefer more? :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: classicman on Aug 22, 2006 at 08:11 PM
I've been using RXV-650 with wharefedale 9 series.
napansin ko yung impedance selector is set to default (8ohms) ng receiver ko.
the wharefedale is running at 6 ohm though it says in the manual it is compatible with 8ohms receiver.

any advice?


i think i've read it in the manual for my yammy HTR-5860 (equivalent to RX-V657) that if you're using a speaker w/ an impedance lower than 8 ohm, you should reset the receiver to its 4 ohm setting ;)........so that's what i do when using my pacific evo 30 w/c is 6 ohm, tapos change ko sya sa 8 ohm when using my B&Ws, madali lang naman i-reset 8)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mheloy on Aug 23, 2006 at 11:29 PM
thanks guys,

I will set it to 4 ohms when I get back home...

Thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: lakambini on Aug 24, 2006 at 10:55 AM
guys,

san ba makakabili ng best deal for a yam rx-v659?  last time kasi sa sights and sounds its only 27k cash.  yesterday naman sa audible illusions 32k na!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: skylynx888 on Aug 24, 2006 at 04:16 PM
guys,

san ba makakabili ng best deal for a yam rx-v659?  last time kasi sa sights and sounds its only 27k cash.  yesterday naman sa audible illusions 32k na!

 ;D ;D try mo Spectra, nag inquire ako last week, the price they gave me was p28700 cash ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: docelmo on Aug 29, 2006 at 12:44 PM
Sirs!

I saw a Yamaha rxv-1000 on ebay for 18k.....any review or feedback on this unit?
Thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: audibleillusions on Aug 31, 2006 at 02:23 PM
guys,

san ba makakabili ng best deal for a yam rx-v659?  last time kasi sa sights and sounds its only 27k cash.  yesterday naman sa audible illusions 32k na!

sir lakambini,
32k is srp price
we can give the price  Yamaha RX-V P27,200 cash price Ti color
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: lakambini on Aug 31, 2006 at 03:36 PM
audibleilusions,

thanks for your reply,  ano pa other brands that you can offer me na nasa same price range ng yamaha?  ang hirap kasi mag-transfer from one shop to another!  Rotel rsx-1056?!? thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: emachine on Sep 01, 2006 at 12:30 AM
hi guys, just wanted to ask kung ok ba na deal yun yamaha RX-V357 / NS-P110? found it at gateway for 23k. im thinking of buying either the tss-15 or this one for my small room. my room sizes i think around 15 to 16 sq. m. what would you suggest? thanks ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kojie on Sep 01, 2006 at 01:44 AM
hi guys,

malaki po ba ang difference in terms of performance ng 457 and 657 ? is it worth the upgrade ?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: DVD_Freak on Sep 01, 2006 at 09:10 AM
hi guys,

malaki po ba ang difference in terms of performance ng 457 and 657 ? is it worth the upgrade ?

I haven't tested the 457.  But based on specs alone...go for the 657.  But of course depende rin sa laki  ng room mo.  Baka naman overkill ang 657.

But specifically on the 2 amps alone, go for the 657.  Sulit yan!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Sep 01, 2006 at 09:16 AM
hi guys, just wanted to ask kung ok ba na deal yun yamaha RX-V357 / NS-P110? found it at gateway for 23k. im thinking of buying either the tss-15 or this one for my small room. my room sizes i think around 15 to 16 sq. m. what would you suggest? thanks ;D

I think you're better off with different speakers. Get the 357, but get different speakers for the same price range. HTIBs such as the tss15 are just too small and won't perform very well like most HTIBs. That's just my suggestion, and that's coming from a Yamaha fan.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Sep 01, 2006 at 09:24 AM
hi guys,

malaki po ba ang difference in terms of performance ng 457 and 657 ? is it worth the upgrade ?

If the price difference isn't too substantial for you, then go for the 657. From my experience, getting the best technology that you can afford is a very good rule of thumb. The major difference between the two that may concern you would be power and future-proofing. The 657 is, of course, more powerful than the 457, and the 657 has 7 channels compared to the 457's 6. Hope I helped.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Miguel^ on Sep 01, 2006 at 09:35 AM
hi guys, just wanted to ask kung ok ba na deal yun yamaha RX-V357 / NS-P110? found it at gateway for 23k. im thinking of buying either the tss-15 or this one for my small room. my room sizes i think around 15 to 16 sq. m. what would you suggest? thanks ;D

If you still want this combo a flier I got from listening in style says you can have the yamaha RX-V357 / NS-P110 for only Php 18,950 cash laking tipid diba compared sa gateway. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 01, 2006 at 09:46 AM
Even when I was a newbie w/ newbie ears, I never really got to appreciate Yamaha speakers.  I like the receivers pero ang gaspang tumunog ng speakers nya.

But for the prices mentioned above, they are really cheap. Next good speaker system I heard was the JBL SCS series which would cost around 17k for the 5.1 speakers pa lang.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kojie on Sep 01, 2006 at 10:09 AM
actually the price difference is not that big, around 5k. Im just curious kung may noticeable difference ba yung 2 said models in terms of ht performance and audio listening. :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Sep 01, 2006 at 10:25 AM
actually the price difference is not that big, around 5k. Im just curious kung may noticeable difference ba yung 2 said models in terms of ht performance and audio listening. :)

If you're room isn't that big, I think not. For some, 5K is substantial and may be used for some other equipment enhancement. One nice thing about the 657 would also be the 9 channel processor inside. It has the presence channels that the 457 doesn't, which is great for 5 channel sources and provides a wider front soundstage.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: meltrob1 on Sep 01, 2006 at 12:14 PM
Good day,

Planning to upgrade my old HT set up, currently its a RXV430 plus the Yamaha speakers that comes with it. Planning to upgrade first the main speaker to Infinity primus 160 - hear the demo of the primus 160 but powered by HK (forget the model) sound so good. Need your suggestion sana before i upgrade, slowly upgrade para di mahalata ni wifey 8) .

Current set up is good for HT but not so good for music.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 01, 2006 at 01:59 PM
Good day,

Planning to upgrade my old HT set up, currently its a RXV430 plus the Yamaha speakers that comes with it. Planning to upgrade first the main speaker to Infinity primus 160 - hear the demo of the primus 160 but powered by HK (forget the model) sound so good. Need your suggestion sana before i upgrade, slowly upgrade para di mahalata ni wifey 8) .

Current set up is good for HT but not so good for music.

If you auditioned the Primus at Acoustical space, Chances are they used a HK 630 thats why it sounded so good. The problem is its a top mid-level receiver & mahal sya. Try auditioning it again with a HK235 at least. Its at the same price range & performance as the Yamaha 657.

Infinity/JBL & HK are of the same company so chances are these speakers would match well with the receiver. Problem lang, halata agad ni missis yung itsura ng HK compared sa pag nag upgrade ka with Yammy.

for upgrade, I would suggest that you try the 1500/1600 series of Yamaha or HK 330 or up. You will definitely hear a difference with these AVR's, these mid level series use different amp sections and tend to sound warmer (good for music as well). IMHO if you upgrade from 430 to the 457 to 657 or HK 235, the differences would be subtle & the word "upgrade" is not really that relevant.

If on a budget, there is still a solution. Get the older models on sale like Yamaha 1300 or 1400. Their prices are near the new Yamaha 659's but they have better amps
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: meltrob1 on Sep 01, 2006 at 04:08 PM
MaZTER
Thanks for the suggestion, check ko price ng Yamaha 1330 and 1400, and if have time try ko uli audition Infinity primus with lower amp model ng HK. Hirap kasi upgrade amp Wifey knows na mahal ang receiver than the speaker.
 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Sep 04, 2006 at 10:59 AM
This is what I've learned recently. My Yamaha 793 sounds great when listening to audio. Better than my 440 and my 650. Older Yamaha HT amps sound better for audio than newer ones, but the newer ones sound and perform better for HT, of course.

Bro meltrob 1,

Often, getting a separate audio set up is more cost effective than getting one that can do well on both HT and Audio. Just my thoughts.

 ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 04, 2006 at 11:17 AM

Often, getting a separate audio set up is more cost effective than getting one that can do well on both HT and Audio. Just my thoughts.

 ;D

Super agree ako dyan. I departed from my Yamaha's to get another brand of receiver that was known to be good in music. I even got the top mid end model to make sure it will perform well for music and HT (ouch sa wallet). It did, really did, but a true dedicated 2 channel setup was still better, not night and day, but better. So now I have 2 setups.

My suggestion:
Get a top entry level receiver (w/ pre outs), top entry level speakers and a good sub for HT. Bookshelves are enough since subs will take care of the LFE.

Then get MID LEVEL speakers, integrated stereo amps and CD player for your audio setup. I have auditioned many of these and for audio my experience is, the MID LEVEL is where the action begins.

If you have the budget and love detailed HT, go for mid level HT gears as well. They arent more expensive for no reason (improved processor and amps). And again, if you have the budget..go for external power amps, cuz in my experience ---> :o :o :o
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Sep 04, 2006 at 11:27 AM
I recently paired a Yamaha AVC50 with a Daiichi CT813, and it just sounded great. To think the Daiichis are not even considered mid level speakers. But I'd listen to it for audio anytime than my HT set up which cost me way more. Oh and ahh, I got the amp for just 3k and the towers for 2K. Hehe.  ;D Sounded way better than the owner's 25-thousand Sony.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 04, 2006 at 11:28 AM
Often, getting a separate audio set up is more cost effective than getting one that can do well on both HT and Audio. Just my thoughts.

 ;D

After reviewing several mags and hearing from some users, I think this can be also be achieved via separates (pre/pro and amps) . Many separates can perform well in both HT and audio. But the cheapest separates available locally that I know are Rotels @ 60k for pre pro and another 60k for 5 channel amp  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Sep 04, 2006 at 11:45 AM
Many separates can perform well in both HT and audio. But the cheapest separates available locally that I know are Rotels @ 60k for pre pro and another 60k for 5 channel amp  :'( :'( :'(

Three stereo power amps are much better.   More so with monoblocks.   ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 04, 2006 at 12:12 PM
Three stereo power amps are much better. More so with monoblocks. ;D

YAIKS!!!


$$$$$$

 ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Sep 04, 2006 at 02:09 PM
It doesn't have to cost much.   If I recall right, there were excellent stereo power amps at the buy and sell section before it was taken out.  Names like Parasound, Carver and Hafler come to mind.  Three stereo boxes would still be cheaper than that 5-ch Rotel power amp.  But with more power reserves (three separate hefty power supplies.

Or,  if you get the timing right, there are excellent jap surplus power amps at the pier,  like some old Denon Pm series or Onkyo integra power amps.  You could have 3 stereo power amps from the pier for less than 20T.  And they can beat the hell out of any modern multichannel amps from Rotel. 

Or even three separate stereo tube amps from AMX. 

The only really expensive gear you need to get is a pre/pro. But even a good pre-owned HK, Marantz or NAd receiver with 5.1 line out would be just as great. 

Then you can have both great audio and HT in one set-up.   ;D
Title: YAMAHA RXV457 6.1 AVR
Post by: jackncokehere on Sep 05, 2006 at 02:09 PM
Sir...

Just got my 1st HT System (YAMAHA RXV457 6.1 AVR and NS-P436 6.1 Speaker System). Advice naman for setting up sa medium size room.

thanks...
Title: Re: YAMAHA RXV457 6.1 AVR
Post by: av_phile1 on Sep 05, 2006 at 02:40 PM
Congrats on your new toys.  ;D  But what specific advice do you need?
Title: Re: YAMAHA RXV457 6.1 AVR
Post by: DVD_Freak on Sep 05, 2006 at 06:40 PM
Congrats!!!

Try looking at the pics under HT Galleries to get an idea for your room.

 ;D
Title: Re: YAMAHA RXV457 6.1 AVR
Post by: jackncokehere on Sep 05, 2006 at 06:52 PM
Thnx sir av_phile1, dvd_freak....

speaker placements (height, distance, position, angles).... and parameter configuration ng AVR sir...

k'se parang di ko maapreciate ung surround nya... medium size lang ung room ko sir...

ano po ba sir ung mga parameters na dapat ko iconsider...

Title: Re: YAMAHA RXV457 6.1 AVR
Post by: arthurallanj on Sep 06, 2006 at 08:55 AM
Thnx sir av_phile1, dvd_freak....

speaker placements (height, distance, position, angles).... and parameter configuration ng AVR sir...

k'se parang di ko maapreciate ung surround nya... medium size lang ung room ko sir...

ano po ba sir ung mga parameters na dapat ko iconsider...



Try this: www.dolby.com
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sjss on Sep 06, 2006 at 11:33 AM
Is the rx- v457 enough to drive Euros 8 speakers in a 2 by 6 meters room? Thanks!
Title: Re: YAMAHA RXV457 6.1 AVR
Post by: av_phile1 on Sep 06, 2006 at 04:04 PM
Thnx sir av_phile1, dvd_freak....

speaker placements (height, distance, position, angles).... and parameter configuration ng AVR sir...

k'se parang di ko maapreciate ung surround nya... medium size lang ung room ko sir...

ano po ba sir ung mga parameters na dapat ko iconsider...



You really need to ground yourself on the basics of HT.  Multi-speaker placement demands more thought and experimentation than stereo placements. 

You would need to have the right positioning and receiver calibration for your speakers.  Check this:
http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/setup/loudspeakers/settingspeakerlevelsdistan.php
http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/setup/loudspeakers/loudspeakerplacement01.php

Alternatively, you can just visit www.audioholics.com under the "Get an AV Education"  section and you'll see a wealth of adivice and tips for your set-up.  There are other sites that can bring to bear on your knowledge. Try a google search on HT set-up.



Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackncokehere on Sep 06, 2006 at 05:51 PM
thanks sir av_phile1 for the links... this is a big help...  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kc2 on Sep 07, 2006 at 10:16 PM
Guys, my friend is eyeing a used Yamaha RX-V995 and is asking me for some advice. It is being sold for 9.5k yata. OK ba ito?  ???
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Miguel^ on Sep 07, 2006 at 10:51 PM
murang mura yan, if in good condition and I would not think twice about it. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kc2 on Sep 07, 2006 at 11:21 PM
Since the 995 came out in 1999, nagaalangan siya kung kukunin niya but he said he already saw it and it is in good condition daw. The reviews I've read are OK, (mas malakas pa nga ito sa receiver ko), but I wanted to be sure (para hindi ako masisi ;D) that's why I am asking for your advise. Thanks  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kojie on Sep 11, 2006 at 11:38 PM
anybody manged to audition the yamaha 659 ?? is it better than the 657 in terms of audio ?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dagul27 on Sep 12, 2006 at 02:12 AM
I have the Yamaha 659 for about a week now and it's powering my Monitor Audio b6 floorstanders and so far kayang kaya naman.My real purpose was to get an entry to mid level receiver with pre outs and then add an amplifier but the Yamaha RX-V659 is more than enough right now.Played a couple of CDs with volume levels at -30 to -20Db and they sounded great except for my M. Buble CD(copied),medyo harsh or magaspang ang tunog.Maybe it's my copied CD ,i'll buy the original and then compare.Sa HT,bilib din ako kahit fronts lang since floorstanders naman and my room is quite small,di ko "muna" kailangan ng subs.Highly recommended,but you have to audition it for yourself to know what this receiver can give you. ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kojie on Sep 12, 2006 at 09:11 AM
ygpm sir
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: marckd1 on Sep 12, 2006 at 09:23 AM
659,1600,2600 and 4600 are good for audio  because it has a burr-brown dac chip installed.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 12, 2006 at 11:31 AM
I have the Yamaha 659 for about a week now and it's powering my Monitor Audio b6 floorstanders and so far kayang kaya naman.My real purpose was to get an entry to mid level receiver with pre outs and then add an amplifier but the Yamaha RX-V659 is more than enough right now.Played a couple of CDs with volume levels at -30 to -20Db and they sounded great except for my M. Buble CD(copied),medyo harsh or magaspang ang tunog.Maybe it's my copied CD ,i'll buy the original and then compare.Sa HT,bilib din ako kahit fronts lang since floorstanders naman and my room is quite small,di ko "muna" kailangan ng subs.Highly recommended,but you have to audition it for yourself to know what this receiver can give you. ;D

IME, Monitor suits entry level Yamahas very well. I installed a Yamaha 650 with a MA S6 for my bayaw and then changed it to MA B2 when they moved to a new house (S6 was used for audio setup). They both sounded great with the Yamahas.

Dagul27, if in case you push through with your plans to do the Yamaha/Rotel power amp combo, please give a review. That was my initial plan before but I had no idea on the outcome.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dagul27 on Sep 13, 2006 at 01:00 AM
Kojie,

PM'ed you back ;D

Matzter,

Yup, I will.Just want to try out the pro amps first,medyo curious lang. ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: putz07 on Sep 13, 2006 at 01:59 PM
I have the Yamaha 659 for about a week now and it's powering my Monitor Audio b6 floorstanders and so far kayang kaya naman.My real purpose was to get an entry to mid level receiver with pre outs and then add an amplifier but the Yamaha RX-V659 is more than enough right now.Played a couple of CDs with volume levels at -30 to -20Db and they sounded great except for my M. Buble CD(copied),medyo harsh or magaspang ang tunog.Maybe it's my copied CD ,i'll buy the original and then compare.Sa HT,bilib din ako kahit fronts lang since floorstanders naman and my room is quite small,di ko "muna" kailangan ng subs.Highly recommended,but you have to audition it for yourself to know what this receiver can give you. ;D

Saan nyo po nabili ung Yamaha rx-v659 nyo?at magkano po?

thanx
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wurt wurt wurt on Sep 13, 2006 at 03:51 PM
try mo audioworld. look for their contact nos. at audio video stores

Saan nyo po nabili ung Yamaha rx-v659 nyo?at magkano po?

thanx
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kojie on Sep 13, 2006 at 08:04 PM
yep available sya sa audioworld.. just got back from their shop.
The burr brown does make a difference, stereo audio was very good w/ the B4 .
:)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: marckd1 on Sep 13, 2006 at 10:51 PM
Very good talaga yung new models ng Yamaha for stereo listening especially the pure direct stereo option. Parang may live singer ka in front of You
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kojie on Sep 14, 2006 at 01:23 AM
Very good talaga yung new models ng Yamaha for stereo listening especially the pure direct stereo option. Parang may live singer ka in front of You

Yep that was the feature i really wanted to test out. Parang nabuhay talaga yung tunog w/ the 659 and the bass was good. First time ko narinig ang yamaha w/ a floorstanders thumping very good bass, kahit yung friend ko na first time ko lang nakasama mag audition napansin nya and sya pa unang nag comment about it.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: audioworld on Sep 14, 2006 at 09:26 AM
yep available sya sa audioworld.. just got back from their shop.
The burr brown does make a difference, stereo audio was very good w/ the B4 .
:)

Good day!

Thanks for dropping by yesterday, and specially considering MA and Yamaha on your list.

Cheers,
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dagul27 on Sep 16, 2006 at 04:13 PM
Played norah jones' CD and at about -34Db medyo harsh ang tunog.yung narada smooth jazz ok naman kahit around -30Db,nahihirapan ata sa MA B6 itong yamaha ko kaya kailangan na ng "gabay". ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dagul27 on Sep 17, 2006 at 05:29 AM
Ang bagong "gabay",well used na,Rotel RB 985! Pizza and beer muna before i start rearranging and connecting my gears.pics coming soon. ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kojie on Sep 17, 2006 at 11:56 PM
Ang bagong "gabay",well used na,Rotel RB 985! Pizza and beer muna before i start rearranging and connecting my gears.pics coming soon. ;D

wow .. do post some pics sir :D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dagul27 on Sep 18, 2006 at 01:32 AM
pics posted in HT Gallery ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dagul27 on Sep 18, 2006 at 02:49 PM
Here's my short review on the Yamaha RX-V659 and Rotel RB-985 combo w/Monitor Audio B6 as fronts,Monitor Audio Bronze Center as center channel,old Bose bookshelf as surround and an Old Onkyo subs from my HTIB.

SACD/DVD-A/CD player -  Pioneer 588A(also recommended ;D)
DVD -Oppo upconverting dvd player-(good  upconverter if you have an HDTV,will sell this when HD-DVD drive for the 360 comes out ;D)

Test CDs and DVDs

Norah Jones(SACD)without the amp - a little harsh at around -34Db,my old Onkyo did a better job at high volumes.
With the Rotel RB-985 amp - totally different story.I am a believer now that you can actually feel that the singer is infront of you.no harshness at -30Db,it's like the singer is reaching out.No bull****.Then i said to myself,sulit ang binayad ko sa amp.2 channel stereo mode and multi channel were both amazing.Sound was very clean and clear.Galing!

Narada Smooth Jazz-almost the same with or without the amp.

Marta Gomez -  CANTOS DE AGUA DULCE - seperation was more defined.played with volume at
-24Db,medyo mahina for me around -30Db but with the amplifier,playing at higher volumes was not a problem.

Eagles-hell freezes over DTS- ;D,hotel california was the best with acoustic guitars.

Godsmack-The Other Side(Hybrid SACD)-only 7 songs but worth it.vocal and instrument separation was way better.2 channel and multi channel sounded excellent.

MOVIES

Saving Private Ryan,beach landing-only at -34Db,bass was more powerful and buong buo.

Moulin Rouge-great movie,liked it because of nicole kidman,hehehe.Without the amp i had to raise the volume to -20Db but the yammy was able to take it.good receiver,best with external amp.

I'm really impressed with the Rotel RB-985's power and the Yamaha RX-V659's processing capabilities.For me,this is a perfect match.Power and grace,parang BMW,hehehe.Anyway,i'm very happy  with my setup right now.Just  wanted to share with you guys my experience with these gears.

Two thumbs up for both music and HT.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 18, 2006 at 03:24 PM
Sounds excellent. I planned to downgrade from my HK630 before to do this Yamaha 659/ Rotel 985 combination. Hmmm....  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bumblebee on Sep 22, 2006 at 12:42 PM
Downgrade na.

http://www.audioholics.com/productreviews/avhardware/YamahaRX-V659p1.php
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 22, 2006 at 03:32 PM
Thanks sir bumblebee! I am still thinking about it.

That 659 review is very revealing.

Note the type of speakers used. http://www.audioholics.com/productreviews/loudspeakers/5.1SpeakerSystemShootout2.php

The type of speakers used just affirms my conclusion in other threads regarding what type of speakers are best for these series.  :)

And measurements are in 2 channel only. I still keep that PM you sent me regarding power ratings (last year pa yun). Its been very helpful.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Sep 23, 2006 at 11:32 AM
Hey mga bros,

I knida need a Yamaha RX-V795, you know anybody who still sells 'em? Help please? Thanks.  ;)

Arthur Allan
09202405720
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Sep 23, 2006 at 12:12 PM
Hey mga bros,

I knida need a Yamaha RX-V795, you know anybody who still sells 'em? Help please? Thanks.  ;)

Arthur Allan
09202405720

if you want meron ako RX-V995...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kojie on Sep 23, 2006 at 08:03 PM
managed to pick up my yammy 659 today . :D

next in line will be the speakers.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dagul27 on Sep 23, 2006 at 09:16 PM
Congrats sir and enjoy!  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Sep 25, 2006 at 09:35 AM
if you want meron ako RX-V995...

Sir, Please PM me price mo. Thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kojie on Sep 27, 2006 at 06:41 PM
what would be a good power amp to be paired w/ the yammy 659. preferrably lower than 50k where can I audition them ?

thanks.

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Sep 27, 2006 at 07:42 PM
I think there's a great Bryston power amp being offered at the Martketplace.  Just 28k.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kojie on Sep 27, 2006 at 07:49 PM
yep saw the post i would prefer a 220v model but i might test it out .. btw sir ygpm :D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Oct 03, 2006 at 09:21 AM
if you want meron ako RX-V995...

Sir Hanns? Still waiting for your reply. Thanks.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MeowPao on Oct 03, 2006 at 12:52 PM
Anyone notice that there is a 'battery' inside the yamaha receivers? hehe
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Oct 03, 2006 at 01:13 PM
there is a Yamaha RXV 2200 for sale at the B/S section. For those wanting to buy or upgrade to a more powerful receiver, this is your chance!

think of it, if you will be buying a new entry level Yamaha AVR (i.e., a 659) , konting dagdag na lang you get this more powerful top mid end AVR. Specially if you are using floorstanders.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ricky on Oct 03, 2006 at 01:57 PM
I agree with matt,plus the seller OZZZY is a really nice person to deal with,super bait ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: acostaml on Oct 05, 2006 at 11:50 AM
guys,

Parang i feel nalugi sa A/V system na binili ko. I bought a 557, Wharfedale 9.4, Wharfedale 9cm, WH2 for rear and wharfedale SW120. Is this a good setup? kasi pag nakikita ko yung mga post dito parang mali ata yung nabili ko:(
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: meltrob1 on Oct 05, 2006 at 01:14 PM
Planning to go with separate audio set-up (as per advise here- arthurallanj)  any here used or auditon the Yamaha integrated amp model AX-596 or AX-496.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Oct 05, 2006 at 06:18 PM
what would be a good power amp to be paired w/ the yammy 659. preferrably lower than 50k where can I audition them ?

Rotel RB1070 130w x 2. P35+k

Parang i feel nalugi sa A/V system na binili ko. I bought a 557, Wharfedale 9.4, Wharfedale 9cm, WH2 for rear and wharfedale SW120. Is this a good setup? kasi pag nakikita ko yung mga post dito parang mali ata yung nabili ko:(

Not really, if you are not very particular or picky with your HT or music experience, "pwede na" is the right word. As a newbie, I myself began with a floorstander/ entry level receiver (also had a spare bookshelf then). It was "pwede na" for me but after some time in this hobby, I got a higher model receiver and heard what more power can do to a FS setup  :o.

Even entry level receivers can power harder to drive speakers (FS) but whether it performs only 10% or 99% of its max capability is the important question. But again this is only a concern if you are, as mentioned above, picky on your experience. But then again, kung tunog HTiB lang sya, sayang naman nag separate setup ka pa.  :-\

We all have different budgets and that is understandable. So the best option for your system to sound its best is always good system matching. In my own experience with BS (bkshelves) and FS (flrstanders), I would recommend, for best results, BS or smaller 5.1 speaker systems for entry level receivers and FS for mid level receivers, since FS have multiple drivers, bigger cabinet volume and take a lot more power to drive (makes sense, di ba?)

Pwede mo ipag "pilit" ang floorstanders, but make sure your receiver has "pre-outs" so you can add a power amp in the future when funds allow.

Read the PRE-OUT thread here (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=50034.28) (click)

Just my friendly 2 cents  :)

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: maserati on Oct 06, 2006 at 04:22 AM
ok ba yung yamaha 457? btw, univarsal po ba remotes nila? can it control other components?  thanks po!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: DVD_Freak on Oct 06, 2006 at 08:20 AM
ok ba yung yamaha 457? btw, univarsal po ba remotes nila? can it control other components?  thanks po!

Depends on how much power you need and what speakers you intend to match them with.  If you plan to buy floorstanders, get a higher model.  But for me medyo bitin siya.  Better for me at the very least get a 657.

The remote of my 657 is universal.  Just haven't tried programming it yet with other gears.  Si I believe the remote of the 457 is the same.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Oct 06, 2006 at 09:18 AM
Again, these are just PRESET universal remotes. These are not LEARNING remotes like some other models have. LEARNING remotes are, of course, better than PRESET ones, but Yamaha is well-reputed to have great remotes. At home, everybody is always careful with the Yamaha remotes, knowing these are great remotes capable of controlling other components at home so okay nang masira ang iba, wag lang ang Yamaha. And the funny thing at home is, the screams of the ladies of the house are louder pag nahuhulog ang Yamaha remotes, and not as loud if other remotes are dropped.  ;D  ;D Oh and ahh, Sir Brian's (DVD_Freak) LEAERNING remote for the Yamaha 793 that he sold to me is just great. It even controls the electric fan at home.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: maserati on Oct 06, 2006 at 03:11 PM
Depends on how much power you need and what speakers you intend to match them with.  If you plan to buy floorstanders, get a higher model.  But for me medyo bitin siya.  Better for me at the very least get a 657.

The remote of my 657 is universal.  Just haven't tried programming it yet with other gears.  Si I believe the remote of the 457 is the same.

will match them with wharfes.  Bookshelfs lang po and pioneer dv696.  I was hping to use just one remote for these gears sana.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Oct 06, 2006 at 03:19 PM
Depends on how much power you need and what speakers you intend to match them with.  If you plan to buy floorstanders, get a higher model.  But for me medyo bitin siya.  Better for me at the very least get a 657.

The remote of my 657 is universal.  Just haven't tried programming it yet with other gears.  Si I believe the remote of the 457 is the same.

I had a 650 & 450 before. They have the same remotes and if you read the instruction manuals, it has programmable codes for the most common brands of appliances like pioneer, sony, hitachi, toshiba etc.

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Oct 07, 2006 at 09:09 AM
will match them with wharfes.  Bookshelfs lang po and pioneer dv696.  I was hping to use just one remote for these gears sana.

I'm quite certain that your Yamaha remote can be programmed to control your DVD player, most controls only, of course, and not all. That's why it's still best to keep your original remote. But I'm sure it will be convenient enough to use for the most basic dvd functions.  At home, whoever has the Yamaha remote is the most powerful, hehehe. ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: maserati on Oct 07, 2006 at 01:39 PM
so ok pala.. i just need the basic fuctions ng dvd player.  Btw, mas ok kaya yamaha 457 kaysa sa pioneer 815?  Yun yung 2 na pag pilian ko eh...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: nerveblocker on Oct 09, 2006 at 07:08 PM
I installed my friends Yamaha rxv-357 with the packaged yamaha 5.1 satellite speakers.  I am using a digital optical cable for the audio from DVD player to receiver and also analog L and R.  DVD player has DD and DTS pass through.   Everytime I play DD or DTS movies, it always says in the display of the receiver enhanced.  I believe this is just one of the DSPs.  Can anyone help how I can revert back to DD or DTS as what the DVD player feeds it without any DSPs? I just want the receiver to display DD or DTS when I play DVDs.   I've also tried pushing the remote's DD/DTS button but the display shifts from Enhanced-Prologic 2-prologic.  ???  I've tried everything and reading the manual.   

Any help is appreciated.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ricky on Oct 09, 2006 at 08:27 PM
sir from the remote press effects off :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: nerveblocker on Oct 10, 2006 at 12:37 AM
Ricky- Thanks for the input but the remote doesn't have effects off in it.  I'm still experiementing on what buttons to push.  Naka-auto naman lahat I just dunno why the damn DSPs are the ones activated when I play DVDs.  >:(
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: chatstix on Oct 10, 2006 at 08:55 AM
Ricky- Thanks for the input but the remote doesn't have effects off in it.  I'm still experiementing on what buttons to push.  Naka-auto naman lahat I just dunno why the d**n DSPs are the ones activated when I play DVDs.  >:(

try pressing 'straight' button. this will bypass all dsp and enhancements.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Reymer on Oct 11, 2006 at 03:20 AM
If the DVD input is already set to AUTO and the 357 still doesnt switch to DD or DTS, have your optical cable checked (maybe its the problem). Or try using another cable (coaxial?). Hope this helps  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Oct 11, 2006 at 11:40 AM
Ricky- Thanks for the input but the remote doesn't have effects off in it.  I'm still experiementing on what buttons to push.  Naka-auto naman lahat I just dunno why the d**n DSPs are the ones activated when I play DVDs.  >:(

Press the DD/DTS button then the left / right buttons, with that you can choose if it's DD?DTS straight or enhanced. Let me know if that works.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: nerveblocker on Oct 12, 2006 at 03:22 PM
I was able to solve the problem by pushing the program button manually on the receiver and it breezed to all the DSPs until it showed Dolby Digital on the display. If the DVD player is stopped, the display showed prologic.    The problem is I was using the remote the whole time and it didn't seem to work.  Weird!  :-\ 

Thanks guys for all your responses!  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Oct 13, 2006 at 09:35 AM
I was able to solve the problem by pushing the program button manually on the receiver and it breezed to all the DSPs until it showed Dolby Digital on the display. If the DVD player is stopped, the display showed prologic.    The problem is I was using the remote the whole time and it didn't seem to work.  Weird!  :-\ 

Thanks guys for all your responses!  ;)

Pag wala syang natatanggap na digital source, talagang babalik sya sa prologic mode, ganyan talaga. I'm not sure that the 357 remote has this but see if it has the a or b group button on it, if not, the single asterisk or double asterisk. If the remote doesn't seem to work, press the single asterisk or a. Tingnan ko nag uli ang 357 remote ng kebigan ko. Let me know.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: luther on Oct 16, 2006 at 04:14 PM
hi guys...

any here who knows of the udpated prices of mid to low end yammie receivers?

am looking to hook this up with dai-ichi DTX front & center speakers, and rears & sub from nivrblkr.

thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Assassin101 on Oct 17, 2006 at 05:38 PM
hi all, my current setup is yammy 650 and a diamond 8.4 but when i replaced my floorstanders to a Opus 5 Dantax. there was a great improvement. the sound coming from the front was more clear and u can clearly distinguish if its coming from the left or the right. any suggestion on what i need to do with my wharfe setup? do i need to add a power amp, or just lower the setting of the front channel?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: acostaml on Oct 20, 2006 at 01:37 PM
hi guys...

any here who knows of the udpated prices of mid to low end yammie receivers?

am looking to hook this up with dai-ichi DTX front & center speakers, and rears & sub from nivrblkr.

thanks!

Nasa 13K to 20K ang yamaha. 357, 457,557,657

Im selling my other yamaha 557ti for 15K. Look for my thread...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: T-850 on Nov 02, 2006 at 09:44 AM
OT- is it advisable to use a 500watt AVR (usually used for PCs) for my Yamaha Amp?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Reymer on Nov 02, 2006 at 10:29 AM
OT- is it advisable to use a 500watt AVR (usually used for PCs) for my Yamaha Amp?

If its the relay type, no. But if its the servo type (usually the more expensive model AVRs) then it's OK. IMHO the relay type AVRs will do more harm than good.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Nov 02, 2006 at 10:43 AM
OT- is it advisable to use a 500watt AVR (usually used for PCs) for my Yamaha Amp?

Just like Reymer said, go for the relay type. And its better if you give an allowance from your Yammy's max power consumption. The mid model Yammies have over 500w power consumption. Its better to use at least a 1000w servo AVR.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: eijneb on Nov 02, 2006 at 05:00 PM
mga sir pls help, i have a yamaha rx450, is there any option para medyo marinig ko ng mas malakas yung audio ng center? para lang kase nahihinaan ako pag dialog na yung maririnig, meron ba option sa avr? btw yung center ko daichi lang po.

thanls :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Reymer on Nov 02, 2006 at 10:15 PM
Just like Reymer said, go for the relay type. And its better if you give an allowance from your Yammy's max power consumption. The mid model Yammies have over 500w power consumption. Its better to use at least a 1000w servo AVR.

Sir Matz, baligtad yata, dapat servo  ;D T-850, Tama si Sir Matz, give allowance. Gamit ko din 1000w servo type pero kasama na dito lahat pati sub.

mga sir pls help, i have a yamaha rx450, is there any option para medyo marinig ko ng mas malakas yung audio ng center? para lang kase nahihinaan ako pag dialog na yung maririnig, meron ba option sa avr? btw yung center ko daichi lang po.

thanls :)

Im not really sure about the RXV450, but I think you can always adjust the level of your center speaker. Baka kasi mababa ang sensitivity ng center mo compared to your fronts  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: eijneb on Nov 02, 2006 at 10:39 PM
Im not really sure about the RXV450, but I think you can always adjust the level of your center speaker. Baka kasi mababa ang sensitivity ng center mo compared to your fronts  :)

sir Reymer any tips po ba kung saan ko pede i-adjust yung (avr)settings ng center ko?

salamat po
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: T-850 on Nov 02, 2006 at 10:41 PM
hi again guys.... what do you mean by relay type? how much do these AVR retail for?
can i get one on a budget of less than 1.5k?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Reymer on Nov 02, 2006 at 10:56 PM
sir Reymer any tips po ba kung saan ko pede i-adjust yung (avr)settings ng center ko?

salamat po

Yun kasing RXV800, inadjust ko ung center and surround levels sa TEST tone mode. Pagdating dun sa test tone ng center, press the UP or RIGHT button sa remote to increase the sound level. Meron din selector sa remote where you can adjust the center, surround, and subwoofer level. Im not familiar with the 450 but most receivers allow you to adjust these settings.

hi again guys.... what do you mean by relay type? how much do these AVR retail for?
can i get one on a budget of less than 1.5k?

Use SERVO type (na-typo error lang siguro si Sir Matz ;D) The relay type is suited for PCs only. As the name implies, may  nagsiswitch na relay to correct the voltage output, but the problem is medyo abrupt ang voltage adjustment nito. The servo type has a motor na gradually naga-adjust ng voltage, and its safer and more accurate. I think merong medyo mura (YADEN?) na servo type sa Raon, meron thread tungkol dito sa forum.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: eijneb on Nov 02, 2006 at 11:15 PM
salamat sir Reymer :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: T-850 on Nov 03, 2006 at 03:29 AM
thanks Reymer.. how much do they retail for nga pala? :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Nov 03, 2006 at 10:21 AM
sir Reymer any tips po ba kung saan ko pede i-adjust yung (avr)settings ng center ko?

salamat po

Try using your remote, it has the Level button down the middle section of the remote. If you press this, it will show a particular channel's volume level, keep pressing it or the up and down to select each individual channel and the left and right arrow buttons to adjust level of each.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Nov 03, 2006 at 10:35 AM
hi again guys.... what do you mean by relay type? how much do these AVR retail for?
can i get one on a budget of less than 1.5k?

Relay type means, if the power fluctuates, there's a switch (relay) that automatically compensates for the fluctuation, and this switch usually just feeds a certain multiple of power to the output therefore is very inaccurate since fluctuations are variable. i.e.: say the power goes down to 150 volts, this relay multiplies it by two to compensate for the inadequacy, so you get 300V, if fluctuation is at 100, it becomes 200, so medyo delikado para sa appliance, unlike a servo type avr that compensates just the right amount of voltage, via a motor that positions the terminal at a certain point on the core, so the voltage is basicaly maintained at around specified voltage, I hope that helps you get a bit of enlightenment. I saw one with the brand Samwon, rated at 1000W, servo type, it was around 1,500 pesos, and nasa Bacolod pa ako, I'm sure if you took the time to look around Raon, mas mura pa dyan. Ingat, bro.

Arthur Allan
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Nov 03, 2006 at 10:57 AM
Sir Matz, baligtad yata, dapat servo  ;D T-850, Tama si Sir Matz, give allowance. Gamit ko din 1000w servo type pero kasama na dito lahat pati sub.

Im not really sure about the RXV450, but I think you can always adjust the level of your center speaker. Baka kasi mababa ang sensitivity ng center mo compared to your fronts  :)

Hehe, oo nga, servo pala.  ;D

Yes, you can adjust the volume of your center to be louder than the other speakers.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Nov 06, 2006 at 07:36 PM
Any one here tried Yamaha with B&W speakers?  Are these two a good match?  I'm planning to upgrade my fronts to B&W 602 bookshelves, my AVR is Yamaha RXV-550 (but will replace this with RXV-659 later).  Please help me decide.

Your inputs are highly appreciated.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Reymer on Nov 06, 2006 at 11:10 PM
Any one here tried Yamaha with B&W speakers?  Are these two a good match?  I'm planning to upgrade my fronts to B&W 602 bookshelves, my AVR is Yamaha RXV-550 (but will replace this with RXV-659 later).  Please help me decide.

Your inputs are highly appreciated.  Thanks.

My setup:
Yamaha RXV800
fronts: B&W603s2 floorstanders
center: B&W LCR6s2
rear: B&W 601
Velodyne CHT8

My original receiver was an Onkyo 656. The sound was too warm (or boomy?) with the Onkyo and the surround modes were limited. But when I switched to the Yamaha 800, the sound was a little bit (thinner?), but I liked it more since medyo boomy ang dating dati sa akin nung onkyo (Im not sure, maybe its bec. of the 603?). Clearer and more detailed and tunog nung 603s with the yamaha. Plus, I love the surround modes  ;D. I also tried the B&W 602s3 last December with the Yamaha. It was OK too, but I like the 603 more (I dont know if its bec I have a small sub, CHT8), kaya ayun pinasa ko nalang sa bro ko. matagal na din itong setup ko, 5.1 lang but Im happy with it.

Im not sure about the RXV550, maybe you could just bring along your receiver to try it with the 602.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Nov 09, 2006 at 01:30 PM
Ok, thanks for sharing your experience with Yammy and B&W.  I will bring my Yammy 550 to the showroom to actually experience how it will sound with B&W 602S3.  If I will be satisfied, I may stay with 550 na lang.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: classicman on Nov 11, 2006 at 11:37 PM
Any one here tried Yamaha with B&W speakers?  Are these two a good match?  I'm planning to upgrade my fronts to B&W 602 bookshelves, my AVR is Yamaha RXV-550 (but will replace this with RXV-659 later).  Please help me decide.

Your inputs are highly appreciated.  Thanks.


froi, musta na pare :)........IMO, they form a great match, am currently using a pair of B&W 602s3 & LCR60s3 as fronts & center being driven by a Yamaha HTR-5860 as pre/pro (equivalent of RX-V657) & a Rotel RMB-1075 Multi Ch. Power Amp. :D

at first, i drove these speakers w/ a yammy 450 & i got some good results, then i upgraded to my current yammy receiver as a stand alone amp. & i got an even satisfying results, but when i added the rotel external power amp. i got the best result out of my HT system 8)

you may refer to this thread (starting w/ reply no. 743) for further discussion on this combo:

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=56933.728

 8)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: maserati on Nov 12, 2006 at 07:38 PM
anybody knows the current price ng yamaha 657 and 757 and kung san sila available?  thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: spiro0426 on Nov 13, 2006 at 03:25 PM
Mga sirs,

Im quite newbie to HT, per manual i followed the yamaha remote control setting in order for me to use the RC to control my philips dvd player and my sony tv. I was able to test the manufacturer's code of each item and test by pressing one component (power on, etc) and working good. After ko matapos ung prescribed steps, wala na naman. Hindi ko na naman mapagana using the yammy RC. Kapag inulit ko, oks na naman ulit.

Patulong sana ako on how will i able to have the function of each basic component working good with the RC. TIA
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: spiro0426 on Nov 13, 2006 at 03:27 PM
by the way, my reciever was a yammy rxv 2200
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Nov 13, 2006 at 03:58 PM
I think, as of my experience with my 450 & 650, you need to keep toggling back the remote from AMP (for AVR functions) to DVDp or CDp, everytime you need to use the remote for THAT function. I also kept making that mistake before.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: lithium_deuteride on Nov 13, 2006 at 04:37 PM
Any one here tried Yamaha with B&W speakers?  Are these two a good match?  I'm planning to upgrade my fronts to B&W 602 bookshelves, my AVR is Yamaha RXV-550 (but will replace this with RXV-659 later).  Please help me decide.

Your inputs are highly appreciated.  Thanks.


Used to have a Yammie & B&W HT setup. 1200 Yam, Series 3 602, LC60, 600 plus big Velo produced proper HT sounds. Concert DVD's were the setup's forte.  Kinda overkill nga for HT IMO.  Don't expect too much from Yamaha when playing stereo though.  Talo siya sa same priced Onkyo & Denon AVR's pag stereo.   
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Jun_P on Nov 13, 2006 at 05:08 PM
Mga sirs,

Im quite newbie to HT, per manual i followed the yamaha remote control setting in order for me to use the RC to control my philips dvd player and my sony tv. I was able to test the manufacturer's code of each item and test by pressing one component (power on, etc) and working good. After ko matapos ung prescribed steps, wala na naman. Hindi ko na naman mapagana using the yammy RC. Kapag inulit ko, oks na naman ulit.

Patulong sana ako on how will i able to have the function of each basic component working good with the RC. TIA

This might work for your Rxv-2200 RC..

What I do is press the source (for example, my Philips dvd player is connected to the DVD input on my Yamaha AVR so I press the DVD button on the Yammy RC), so you can control your component. Then press AMP so you can control the AVR. Quite confusing the first few times you do it, but you should be able to get used to it.

Actually I was quite surprised that my RXV-357's RC was able to control my Philips dvd player. I just accidentally found out  ;D the manual didn't say anything about it. So now instead of 3 remotes I use 2, the other one for the Philips TV, which the Yammy RC can't control  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: spiro0426 on Nov 14, 2006 at 09:41 AM
Ill try it tonight. What i was doing then was follow the step by step procedure in the manual, press dvd (press learn then setup will be shown in the LCD of the RC, then ill look for the manufacturer, press button of some function of the dvd player; then mag work naman sya; after i press learn again, wala na ulit ung function).

Have tried the RC both on the dvd and tv, okay naman. After mag exit sa procedure, wala ulit. Anyway ill explore it more times. Tanx guys.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Reymer on Nov 16, 2006 at 09:33 PM

Used to have a Yammie & B&W HT setup. 1200 Yam, Series 3 602, LC60, 600 plus big Velo produced proper HT sounds. Concert DVD's were the setup's forte.  Kinda overkill nga for HT IMO.  Don't expect too much from Yamaha when playing stereo though.  Talo siya sa same priced Onkyo & Denon AVR's pag stereo.   

This is true. Yamaha is great only for HT (IMO). For audio, I use a different setup.
Title: RX-V659 OSD Problem
Post by: paolorenzo on Nov 19, 2006 at 09:16 AM
Mga sirs, I have a friend who has a problem with the OSD display of his rx-v750. Para kasing PAL signal ang output sa tv niya. As in continuous ang pag-scroll sa tv screen nya.  Sa Harman Kardon kasi, ganito din but the solution sa HK is to hold the OSD button on the remote for about 3 secs.  Meron bang ganitong feature sa yamaha rx-v750 or meron diperensiya yun unit ng friend ko? Thanks in advance.

I just setup my HT yesterday, and it seems that the RX-V659 OSD is also in PAL format.  Pero yung OSD lang naman ang problema.  The video pass through feature (to component out) is working great.  I'm still looking into this.  Bad trip kasi it's slowing down my setup.

Feedback naman from all the RX-Vx59 owners out there...  Baka naman there's a remedy I haven't seen yet.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Assassin101 on Nov 21, 2006 at 01:19 PM
i have an RXV650 but i never had problems with the OSD i'm using a japs surplus tv kaya wala ito PAL. kaya lang wala sya video pass thru  using component video only sa s-video lang.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: backdraft on Nov 27, 2006 at 07:14 AM
Any update on the SRP of the 357/457/557 receivers and where it is available. Thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: HT_Freshman on Nov 28, 2006 at 12:26 AM
Need some advice mga masters.

Im planning to get a Yamaha RXV-457 this month or by January Next year, OK na po ba sya for entry level HT AV Receiver or is there any AV Receiver na mas maganda gamitin than this one? Bago lang po ako dito sa World of HT kaya wala pa po ako gaano alam lalo na sa AV Receivers.

Comments, Suggestions and Recommendations are Highly appreciated!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Jun_P on Nov 28, 2006 at 08:08 AM
how much is your budget?
 ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mike c on Nov 28, 2006 at 08:13 AM
mr. HT freshman,

when I was just starting like you, I blindly bought a yamaha 6 series receiver.
in short, naka tsamba ako.  kasi ang pre-outs with yamaha starts with the 6 series. 

pre-outs give you the opportunity in the future to upgrade and buy an external amplifier (only if you want). 
i think the 6 series is also the one with 7.1 (in case in the future you want the additional rear channels)

if you can save for a 6 series yammy, I would recommend that instead of the lower series.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: HT_Freshman on Nov 28, 2006 at 08:18 AM
ano po ba magandang gamiting Yamaha AV Receiver or other Brand Equivalent for my Speakers na price eh nasa P15K po???

Speakers:
FRONT - Wharfedale 8.4
SORROUND - Wharfedale WH-2 Sorround
CENTER - Wharfedale Diamon 9CS



Many thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Nov 28, 2006 at 12:21 PM
Di nagtagal yung Yamaha 450 sa akin (3 months). I find it "bitin" (personal opinion only). Maybe because I used floorstanding speakers. If you can, just save up for awhile & get a good receiver. Kesa bitin tapos upgrade ka pa next time. Its what happened to me & I dont wish this to happen to others- sayang oras at pera. And take note, madali benta speakers, pero receivers, mahirap. So best advice is to get it right the first time.

For me, go for at least the 6 series of Yamaha (used to have a 650) plus bookshelf speakers. IMHO, the lower model AVR's are good for satellite (or surround size) speaker systems only. And like Mike C said,  a receiver w/ pre outs for future expansion would be a handy feature.

You could also try the B/S section. Lots of good deals there now, pasko na eh, time to upgrade.  :D

Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Nov 28, 2006 at 01:00 PM
Sir HT_Freshman, korek na korek sila.  Nagpademo ako ng 457 for DVD video, mahina ang bass, kulang sa clarity, hindi ko pa maintindihan ang dialog.  You don't need the aggravation.  Start with the 600 series.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Nov 28, 2006 at 01:02 PM
Seconding sir Matz, my rule of thumb has always been, buy the best technology you can afford. It has always worked well for me. Know your financial limits and see what it can get you. And yes, the Buy And Sell section is a great venue.  ;) God Bless.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: HT_Freshman on Nov 29, 2006 at 12:54 AM
oh! thanks a lot mga sir! i really do appreciate your comments and advices!

now i see the light! kala ko kasi OK na yung Yamaha 457 eh! Pero kung ibang brand link ONKYO, PIONEER, MARANTZ, PIONEER na less than P20K, ano po kaya ma rerecommend ninyo to drive my speakers?

Nagtanong ako sa 5th Avenue meron silang MARANTZ 4600 almost P23K na then may inaalok sa akin naman na KENWOOD 7.1 na din for P19K. ONKYO di ko lang alam kung anong model ang pinaka mura nila. PIONEER also may nakita ako for P16K na 6.1. I really like the Marantz 4600 kaso out of my Budget na talaga and papaluin na ko ng nanay ko pagbinili ko yun! hehehe!

Btw, magkano na po ba yung YAMAHA 6 Series nila? RXV 657 ata entry level ng 6 series nila AFAIC.


 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mike c on Nov 29, 2006 at 07:55 AM
659 yung latest model, pero baka mas mura nga yung 657

medyo mahal ata sa mga mall (kasi malaki overhead nila - aka taga)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Nov 29, 2006 at 10:42 AM
One of the best advice I read from a book (the Complete Guide to High End Audio) is to match the value of your electronics (receiver) to your  speakers or higher. So in application, if you bought a P40,000 ($800 like the Wharfe 9.6) speaker, match it with a P40,000 receiver or higher for best results.

Just so happens we are lucky that wharfes are cheap here, but consider Wharfe's international price NOT our local price. Huwag dayain!  :D

So if the Wharfe 8.4 is $600 internationally, try to get an equal value receiver or higher for best results. If you cant, there is no harm in holding back for awhile and make more savings to get what you want (or go for pre owned). Its better to get a good one than a mediocre AVR & then upgrade later, wasting time & money.

The truth may hurt (the pocket) at first, but in the end you will appreciate this advice (if you follow it). Your HT system will give you many years of satisfaction, instead of dissatisfaction or selling it in the B/S section cuz its "bitin".
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Nov 29, 2006 at 11:40 AM
oh! thanks a lot mga sir! i really do appreciate your comments and advices!

now i see the light! kala ko kasi OK na yung Yamaha 457 eh! Pero kung ibang brand link ONKYO, PIONEER, MARANTZ, PIONEER na less than P20K, ano po kaya ma rerecommend ninyo to drive my speakers?

Nagtanong ako sa 5th Avenue meron silang MARANTZ 4600 almost P23K na then may inaalok sa akin naman na KENWOOD 7.1 na din for P19K. ONKYO di ko lang alam kung anong model ang pinaka mura nila. PIONEER also may nakita ako for P16K na 6.1. I really like the Marantz 4600 kaso out of my Budget na talaga and papaluin na ko ng nanay ko pagbinili ko yun! hehehe!

Btw, magkano na po ba yung YAMAHA 6 Series nila? RXV 657 ata entry level ng 6 series nila AFAIC.


 

If it's more for HT, no better path than a Yamaha. I think a 650 would be good enough if you can still find one, if not then the 657. And no better venue than the Buy and Sell section, hehe. Just me though.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: HT_Freshman on Nov 29, 2006 at 11:41 AM
Thanks a bunch po mga Audio Masters!

Saan po ba maganda bumili ng YAMAHA 6 Series na Receiver kasi alam ko nga talagang mahal sa Malls eh laki nga ng patong nila. Saan po bang store mura mga YAMMY?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ronjet on Nov 29, 2006 at 12:10 PM
sir HT_freshman.. tama sila sir, If I have a 20k budget for a receiver. If ok lang sayo ang pre-owned- I'll try my luck to find one sa Buy and Sell Section(HT equipment) here sa pdvd ng pre-owned good receiver. 650 -657 ok na din yun.. sayang meron nagbenta dati ng 750 for 16k lang ata also yung kay sir ozzzy na 2200 for 20k :D :D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Nov 29, 2006 at 03:14 PM
Saan po ba maganda bumili ng YAMAHA 6 Series na Receiver kasi alam ko nga talagang mahal sa Malls eh laki nga ng patong nila. Saan po bang store mura mga YAMMY?

OK lang ang presyo sa malls.  Delikado sa kung saan-saan, baka no warranty or reconditioned pa mabili mo.

Suggestions:

1. Suki ko:  AUDIO EXCELLANCE: Spectra Group
Located at: G17 Cybermall, Eastwood City, Libis, QC
Tel. No.:      687-0792
E-mail:        [email protected]
Look for:     Nino Alagon


2.  Suki ko rin:  SPECTRA AUDIO VIDEO CENTER, 17 Parksquare 1 Ayala Center Makati 8185493

3.  Yamaha dealer & service center: Audio World Tech.
located at 749 Banawe cor. Sct. Alcaraz, in between Retiro and Delmonte ave.
Tel.7327716 and 7426843
We carry DYNAUDIO, MISSION, B&W, JPW, HEYBROOK, VELODYNE, ECOSSE CABLES, EXPOSURE, ROTEL, MUSICAL FIDELITY, YAMAHA, PIONEER, MARANTZ, ONKYO, and much more, we also got lots of preowned gears. pls come visit us :)   Audiophile cd's also available.
Sales and Service center of YAMAHA.


4.  The cheapest:  Ambassador Appliances
Parksquare 1 Ayala Center Makati =8930667; 8930668 - virgie
Mabait naman sila, pero kulang sa service.  They don't even audition gears.


Sa 600 series, 659 should be the best kasi may Burr Brown DAC 'yon.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gaol on Nov 29, 2006 at 03:44 PM
OK lang ang presyo sa malls.  Delikado sa kung saan-saan, baka no warranty or reconditioned pa mabili mo.

Suggestions:

1. Suki ko:  AUDIO EXCELLANCE: Spectra Group
Located at: G17 Cybermall, Eastwood City, Libis, QC
Tel. No.:      687-0792
E-mail:        [email protected]
Look for:     Nino Alagon



Looks like they're closed already. I passed by Eastwood last night and their former stall was closed and a shoe/clothing store was set to open in the same place.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Nov 29, 2006 at 10:28 PM
Sayang naman.  Malapit sana sa amin ang Eastwood.  Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Funktopuss on Nov 30, 2006 at 08:29 PM
HT freshman, ako rin matagal na naghahanap ng 657, lahat ng napuntahan kong store out of stock na, puro 659 offer nila pero di kaya ng budget ko, let me know if you found one and likewise para di tayo magunahan kpag may nagalok sa buy and sell section. ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: HT_Freshman on Dec 01, 2006 at 10:33 AM
@Funktopuss

Honga po sir hirap maghanap ng Yamaha RXV 657 eh! nagtanong na din ako sa Shangri-La wala na din daw silang ganung MOdel. I'll try my Luck sa ibang Malls baka meron sila binebentang 657.

thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: allenwfc on Dec 04, 2006 at 10:24 AM
HT freshman, ako rin matagal na naghahanap ng 657, lahat ng napuntahan kong store out of stock na, puro 659 offer nila pero di kaya ng budget ko, let me know if you found one and likewise para di tayo magunahan kpag may nagalok sa buy and sell section. ;)

hi sir, i was canvassing a week or 2 back and was able to find 659 at 26k po... this still out of your budget?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: HT_Freshman on Dec 04, 2006 at 10:31 AM
@allenwfc

Sir san mo nakitang store yung 659 @ P26K?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: allenwfc on Dec 04, 2006 at 11:05 AM
@allenwfc

Sir san mo nakitang store yung 659 @ P26K?

sa v-mall greenhills 3rd floor

in one of the shops that sell a ps3. they should be the only shop that sells a ps3 and also, sells speakers and have a couch area for ht audition...

price is for cash basis though.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: allenwfc on Dec 05, 2006 at 03:07 PM
out of curiosty, anyone seen the yamaha rx-v1700 up for sale already locally?

any ideas on prices?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: lakambini on Dec 05, 2006 at 04:14 PM
ht_freshman

saw a yam rx-v657 at spectra last month, you can check them out if they still have it.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: skylynx888 on Dec 05, 2006 at 04:39 PM
sa v-mall greenhills 3rd floor
in one of the shops that sell a ps3. they should be the only shop that sells a ps3 and also, sells speakers and have a couch area for ht audition...
bro ht_freshman, i guess bro Allenwfc is referring to Cardinal Audio in Greenhills  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: allenwfc on Dec 05, 2006 at 04:46 PM
bro ht_freshman, i guess bro Allenwfc is referring to Cardinal Audio in Greenhills  ;D ;D

bro skylynx888, i think thats the one  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bhongskie on Dec 05, 2006 at 04:59 PM
There's a 657 available at Spectra.  I just inquired yesterday.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Dec 05, 2006 at 05:03 PM
Hmm, Isnt Cardinal Audio in the basement of Shopsville?

And Ambassador Appliances in 3rd floor Virra Mall?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: DVD_Freak on Dec 05, 2006 at 05:09 PM
Ambassador Appliances doesn't have an HT set up.  Parang nakita ko na rin yun.  I think exclusive dealer sila ng Yamaha coz they are selling pati floorstanding speakers of Yamaha also.

If I remember it right it's a Yamaha store mismo.  Third floor nga siya.  After you go up the excalator sa third floor, just turn to the right aisle yun kahelera ng Best Toys and just go straight.  Medyo loobin pa kasi siya.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: allenwfc on Dec 05, 2006 at 05:38 PM
Hmm, Isnt Cardinal Audio in the basement of Shopsville?

And Ambassador Appliances in 3rd floor Virra Mall?

ambassador yes is on 3rd floor, but their price wasnt @ 26k for the 659 :(

i could be wrong on the cardinal audio... but anyways, they are the only shop at the 3rd floor with an ht area(ht tv, couch, speakers, etc..) so its not that hard to find it. :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: musika on Dec 05, 2006 at 08:58 PM
I think its one of the listening group
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: allenwfc on Dec 06, 2006 at 11:45 AM
I think its one of the listening group

the listening group shop is to the deep left from the escalator area, near the bridge to the parking area... its most memorable with the chubby who keeps singing karaoke stuff at the shop..

so nope that not the one, but it's near there.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jdg on Dec 09, 2006 at 08:06 PM
ano na ba ang cheapest yamaha a/v receiver ngayon?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: lui-G on Dec 11, 2006 at 04:52 PM
ano na ba ang cheapest yamaha a/v receiver ngayon?

i saw an rx-v357 at v-mall, greenhills, selling for like P11.4k, sale na daw, not sure though.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: allenwfc on Dec 11, 2006 at 06:41 PM
i doulbe checked the shop were i inquired about the yamaha 659..
yup its cardinal audio alright!

you might try asking there since the chinese looking guy (i think his owenr or part owner) gave a good price even with out me having to haggle.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: tambutsoo on Dec 13, 2006 at 11:12 AM
ano po ma recommend ninyo good speakers for Yamaha RXV1500?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: AlvinladeN on Dec 18, 2006 at 08:39 PM
my room is 2.5mx4m only, is the yamaha rx-v457 enough?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: AlvinladeN on Dec 19, 2006 at 12:48 AM
found this

http://www.eastwoodhifi.com.au/yammy_receivers.htm

based on the review all the rx-v series sounds the same. the price differed because of the extra features like pre-out, upscaling, higher wattage etc. since i really dont need this extra features maybe the rx-v457 is enough for for my small room.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 19, 2006 at 07:29 AM
"The main thing that sets these receivers apart are the different features that they possess, not their sound quality "


The reviews didn't explicitly said they all sound the same, (or did I just miss it?), but I hav to say that given the same amplifier circuit with just different biasing or transistor cascading used to bring up 85watts to 100watts, the sonic difference between the lowest and the highest powered receiver would really be nil.   

So if you really have no need for the added features of the higher models, and your room is small, the lowest model would be adequate.  But looking at the specs, I'd get the 667 for its preouts.  They'd come very useful when you move to a bigger room so you can add an outboard power amp.  That'd be the only advantage that model has for me.  YPAO may be useful too but not a deciding factor for me.   ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: juneaki on Dec 19, 2006 at 09:34 AM
Magkano kaya ang 557? meron din ba itong preouts?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Dec 19, 2006 at 10:45 AM
found this

http://www.eastwoodhifi.com.au/yammy_receivers.htm

based on the review all the rx-v series sounds the same. the price differed because of the extra features like pre-out, upscaling, higher wattage etc. since i really dont need this extra features maybe the rx-v457 is enough for for my small room.  :)

I beg to disagree. I have heard the 530 & 2500, owned a 450 & 650 for months. I could say that the lower RXV series (300-500 series) sound alike, but its different w/ 600 series & up.

Honestly I would not buy any Yamaha receiver below the 600 series from what I experienced. If I was on a budget, I will just go for an Onkyo receiver. I have one entry level Onkyo in my bedroom and the sound is astounding for a lowest model receiver. Not as excellent as Yamaha in HT though.

Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Dec 19, 2006 at 11:16 AM
Sir HT_Freshman, korek na korek sila.  Nagpademo ako ng 457 for DVD video, mahina ang bass, kulang sa clarity, hindi ko pa maintindihan ang dialog.  You don't need the aggravation.  Start with the 600 series.


found this

http://www.eastwoodhifi.com.au/yammy_receivers.htm

based on the review all the rx-v series sounds the same. the price differed because of the extra features like pre-out, upscaling, higher wattage etc. since i really dont need this extra features maybe the rx-v457 is enough for for my small room. :)

I wouldn't rely on that review.  But then again, don't take our word for it. 

Just audition and compare the 457 and 657 for yourself.  The difference might surprise you.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Dec 19, 2006 at 12:10 PM
it is always prudent to audition your system setup - amp to speaker at least.

My initial research prior to buying my 630 is that 400-700 series are basically the same, differing only in features. Wattage differences are just a mktg rating for you to recognize somewhere in the ladder is a more powerful amp (kinda give you feeling you have not been cheated for the same wattage)  ;D  ;D In truth - there is nothing different in wattage really (even granting 10watt higher is there - that's not much - almost nil) !!!  ;D  ;D  ;D

The  reason I bought 630 is the pre-outs (during that time). I doubt it is any different today.

Same is true with 1xxx-2xxx series. Zx is another series.

Go get what sounds best for your hearing in the same series (if there really differences you note), if none, the 4xx series sometimes exceed the higher models - simpler sometimes means better! Yamaha often proved this anomaly... or probably same speakers reacts differently with amps of different series (synergy).
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: AlvinladeN on Dec 19, 2006 at 01:19 PM
I beg to disagree. I have heard the 530 & 2500, owned a 450 & 650 for months. I could say that the lower RXV series (300-500 series) sound alike, but its different w/ 600 series & up.

maybe thats for the 50 series, the 57 series maybe different now but were not sure.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Mouldingo on Dec 29, 2006 at 10:38 PM
(http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/2794/1227200680436am0004resiby7.jpg) 

Needed a upgrade from my RX-V1000...

(http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/6174/1229200673138pm0001resikz0.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

to a RX-V2700 with all the bells and whistles to go HD ;D ;D


Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wild_swan73 on Jan 02, 2007 at 11:53 PM

The  reason I bought 630 is the pre-outs (during that time). I doubt it is any different today.

Sir aHobbit,

May pre outs po b ang 630???  Maganda daw ung may pre outs para lagyan ng power amp for future upgrades

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 04, 2007 at 05:14 PM
Can someone with a RXV 2500 please confirm if the remote control's model number is RAV-351?

TIA  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sonnysy on Jan 07, 2007 at 03:48 PM
Hi!

Our precious 11 year old Harman-Kardon AVR-80 -- have served use really great, solid power and superb sound quality (am into rock music & DVDs... during that it cost me an arm and a leg... made in japan, cheaper models were made in korea then... dunno now) just gave up on us this week.

Briefly going over the reviews here... I'm looking into acquiring a new Yamaha or Onkyo receiver... Whats your recommendation for sub-30K & sub-50K pesos?

Cheers!


Sonny
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mike c on Jan 07, 2007 at 10:23 PM
ang alam ko mas mahal ang onkyo for the same features as yamaha ... go for the best yamaha you can afford ...

sub30k is the rx-v659
not sure about the rx-v1700
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jdg on Jan 10, 2007 at 07:41 PM
saan kaya meron rxv359 and magkano kaya ito?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: pchin on Jan 10, 2007 at 08:09 PM
The Yamaha RX-V1700 cost P58,500 (with 12 months installments). It has HDMI version 1.2a
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 11, 2007 at 11:19 AM
Too expensive, these HDMI receivers are!  ;)

And I also noticed the latest 1700 & 2700 are not THX select2 certified anymore.

I will just simply plug the HDMI directly to the display and used the money saved to get a good dvd player or for a future HD DVD or BR player. But thats just me.

I actually got myself an older non-HDMI NOS (new old stock) Yamaha lately . I totally do not need the HDMI, bur brown, ipod, area 2, bi-amp, etc etc. They all said that the new models still sound alike in HT anyway. There are improvements in audio/music for the new models, but I have a separate audio setup already.

Saved myself a lot of cash  ;D.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mike c on Jan 11, 2007 at 01:19 PM
Too expensive, these HDMI receivers are!  ;)

And I also noticed the latest 1700 & 2700 are not THX select2 certified anymore.

I will just simply plug the HDMI directly to the display and used the money saved to get a good dvd player or for a future HD DVD or BR player. But thats just me.

I actually got myself an older non-HDMI NOS (new old stock) Yamaha lately . I totally do not need the HDMI, bur brown, ipod, area 2, bi-amp, etc etc. They all said that the new models still sound alike in HT anyway. There are improvements in audio/music for the new models, but I have a separate audio setup already.

Saved myself a lot of cash  ;D.

here's some info for you ... para maubos yung cash savings mo ... :)

when using the HDMI (or analog inputs/outputs - kaya lang 5.1 lang - HDMI supports up to 8 channels) of an HD format player playing either blu-ray or HD-DVD ... mas maganda daw sound :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 11, 2007 at 02:13 PM
Hehe. I agree with that mike c :)

But I am already sure I will be a late adapter of the HD & BR format. And besides, as of what I know, di ba HDMI 1.3 dapat yung latest HDMI format & not 1.2  ?  I dont follow the latest news on these 2 formats since I have decided to wait them out.

Knowing myself & how I upgrade, I believe its still too early to adapt to HDMI w/o them being of much use for the moment (component works fine and no HD DVD & BR to use em on).  By the time HDMI, BR & HD are in the mainstream (maybe 2 more years?), I am sure I have upgraded & used this money I saved by then.  ;D

Just me & my 2 cents.    :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 11, 2007 at 02:45 PM
Anybody who knows a Yamaha 2500 user?

Any fellow members you guys know who owns this receiver?  Somebody please point me to one.  :)

I need to ask something. I saw someone post about this but I forgot who.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mike c on Jan 11, 2007 at 05:32 PM
Hehe. I agree with that mike c :)

But I am already sure I will be a late adapter of the HD & BR format. And besides, as of what I know, di ba HDMI 1.3 dapat yung latest HDMI format & not 1.2  ?  I dont follow the latest news on these 2 formats since I have decided to wait them out.

Knowing myself & how I upgrade, I believe its still too early to adapt to HDMI w/o them being of much use for the moment (component works fine and no HD DVD & BR to use em on).  By the time HDMI, BR & HD are in the mainstream (maybe 2 more years?), I am sure I have upgraded & used this money I saved by then.  ;D

Just me & my 2 cents.    :)

honestly ang gulo gulo nila, if you do some research sa forums, half the people say you need 1.3, the other half hindi (kasi wala naman daw software pa that uses 1.3 benefits)

anyway, did you know may combo player na LG?  blu-ray and HD-DVD in one?  so baka 1 year lang and hintay mo
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Mouldingo on Jan 11, 2007 at 09:16 PM
Yung HDMi is the only way you will be able to enjoy Dolby Digital Lossless audio. This won't work through analog or optical cable...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: pchin on Jan 12, 2007 at 04:20 PM
Yes, other than the analog jack option, you will require HDMI to take advantage of the new Dolby TrueHD & DTS Master HD audio content on the HD-DVD or BD players.

But it is not necessary to use only HDMI ver 1.3. Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD & DTS Master HD bitstream are transportable over all versions of HDMI as decoded PCM.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 12, 2007 at 05:48 PM
thanks for the knowledge guys. Yan ang info na hinahanap ko! :D

Anyway, HDMI tech will be trickling down to lower mid level receivers soon. Onkyo & HK are releasing 30+k receivers w/ HDMI (HK345? & Onkyo 604) very soon. Hopefully Yamaha follows. No worries on my part on the power dept cuz I got a Rotel 5x100w power amp ready.

On my part as a declared late adapter I am sure I would have upgraded receivers by the time I decide to get my hands on those titles w/ new sound formats. Who knows? They might think of a way to let you enjoy the new sound formats through analog? Same as: Who before would have thought that a SD DVD player could play 720p/1080i through component was possible?

Besides, what are friends for? Sayang naman all the friends we made in pdvd if they wont allow me to watch these new HDDVD & BR's in their house...and eat & stay there for a month... ;D harhar

anyway, did you know may combo player na LG?  blu-ray and HD-DVD in one?  so baka 1 year lang and hintay mo

read about it but there are still some quirks they need to fix w/ the HD side of the player. Hintay hintay lang ako.  :)

Anybody who knows a Yamaha 2500 user?

Any fellow members you guys know who owns this receiver?  Somebody please point me to one.  :)

I need to ask something. I saw someone post about this but I forgot who.


someone please point me to a 2500 user/member!  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: allenwfc on Jan 14, 2007 at 08:19 PM
thanks for the knowledge guys. Yan ang info na hinahanap ko! :D

Anyway, HDMI tech will be trickling down to lower mid level receivers soon. Onkyo & HK are releasing 30+k receivers w/ HDMI (HK345? & Onkyo 604) very soon. Hopefully Yamaha follows. No worries on my part on the power dept cuz I got a Rotel 5x100w power amp ready.

On my part as a declared late adapter I am sure I would have upgraded receivers by the time I decide to get my hands on those titles w/ new sound formats. Who knows? They might think of a way to let you enjoy the new sound formats through analog? Same as: Who before would have thought that a SD DVD player could play 720p/1080i through component was possible?

Besides, what are friends for? Sayang naman all the friends we made in pdvd if they wont allow me to watch these new HDDVD & BR's in their house...and eat & stay there for a month... ;D harhar

read about it but there are still some quirks they need to fix w/ the HD side of the player. Hintay hintay lang ako.  :)

someone please point me to a 2500 user/member!  ;D

if i remember right the hk 247 and some other model will have hdmi.. cant remember the ces link that mentioned it :(
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Munskie on Jan 15, 2007 at 11:44 PM

On my part as a declared late adapter I am sure I would have upgraded receivers by the time I decide to get my hands on those titles w/ new sound formats. Who knows? They might think of a way to let you enjoy the new sound formats through analog? Same as: Who before would have thought that a SD DVD player could play 720p/1080i through component was possible?

Matt, you can still enjoy the new sound formats thru analog 5.1.  My hd-a1 has 5.1 analog outs connected to my denon 3805 analog ins. the hd-a1 decodes dolby digital plus and dolby truehd 5.1 (before just 2.0....but updated thanks to a recent firmware update).  HDMI though is still the best option.....with analog the next best thing.  HDMI is tops coz it has no quirks like low LFE output.  Remedied mine by adjusting the LFE volume by +10db on the receiver.   You can use spdif but the reciever decodes it only as DTS (not bad actually  ;D ;D)...and is limited only to 1.5 mbps over that connection. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: pchin on Jan 16, 2007 at 07:18 AM
Agree with Munskie. I gathered the following info:

"With firmware 2.0, the player can decode 5.1 TrueHD and output it as uncompressed PCM via the 5.1 analog connection or HDMI to your receiver. TrueHD is a lossless track (i.e. transparent to the master, no compression, etc. -- basically as good as it gets). DD+ is lossy (i.e. compressed and therefore inferior to TrueHD."

I think now it's clearer about lossless vs lossy   ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Jan 16, 2007 at 09:33 AM
TrueHD is a lossless track (i.e. transparent to the master, no compression, etc. -- basically as good as it gets).   ...

I think now it's clearer about lossless vs lossy   ;)


Not so fast...

Dolby TrueHD is lossless, but it is still compressed. The true uncompressed 5.1 is PCM 5.1. The new sound formats are more confusing than ever. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: pchin on Jan 16, 2007 at 10:21 AM
Yes, it is confusing indeed...esp with the new HDMI 1.3 specs...will add salt into the wound...at the same time HDMI 1.4 is in process na  ;D

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 16, 2007 at 10:55 AM
Only important thing for me is that the new sound formats can be used through analog. And its good that it does. I find it lame that manufacturers would rely solely on HDMI for the new sound formats. That would make it hard for them to penetrate the market w/ no backward compatibility.

In my perspective, since I upgrade often, I would not jump on the tech so early while its still expensive (+20k for HDMI?!). Cuz when the tech becomes mainstream & prices have dropped, you will be left with a hugely depreciated piece of equipment.  :-[ :'(

But thats just me.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 16, 2007 at 11:14 AM
With all these new sound formats & HDMI, I sure hope that AVR companies like Yamaha would go back to releasing pure pre/pro's with HDMI & the new formats. I think there were a lot of these pre/pro's from different brands when DTS came out (heard of Denon & Pioneer). You can simply plug the processor as an "ADD ON" to your old receiver's analog ins and your old receiver functions simply as a power amp.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Munskie on Jan 16, 2007 at 11:20 AM
With all these new sound formats & HDMI, I sure hope that AVR companies like Yamaha would go back to releasing pure pre/pro's with HDMI & the new formats. I think there were a lot of these pre/pro's from different brands when DTS came out. You can simply plug the processor as an "ADD ON" to your old receiver's analog ins and your old receiver functions simply as a power amp.
yeah...i agree.   I wouldnt mind CE manufacturers like YAMAHA releasing affordable pre/pros.   Denon did released a pre/pro.....pero flagship and its huge!!  wala rin...

(http://www.audioholics.com/news/uploads/avp2.jpg)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 16, 2007 at 12:50 PM
Only important thing for me is that the new sound formats can be used through analog. And its good that it does.


Using analog for the new high def formats was more of an interim solution so that HD users can still use their current pre/pros and receivers whil watchng on the new players.   Many HD users already own high end pre/pros and receivers with HDMI 1.1 so they can stream 5.1 uncompressed LPCM coming from players via HDMI 1.1 

Quote
I find it lame that manufacturers would rely solely on HDMI for the new sound formats.


The new lossless formats are bandwidth hungry that can only be accommodated by HDMI1.3.  And HDMI 1.3 is backwards compatible.  Meaning connections from HDMI1.1 or 1.2 players can be accommodated. 

Quote
In my perspective, since I upgrade often, I would not jump on the tech so early while its still expensive (+20k for HDMI?!). Cuz when the tech becomes mainstream & prices have dropped, you will be left with a hugely depreciated piece of equipment.  :-[ :'(

But thats just me.  :)

Same here.  But I have to thank early adopters who do exactly that.  They sort of prove to the CE and studios that their new products are workable, the same way DVD was in the early days.  Then once the moneyed early adopters have bought their stuff, then we see a downward price trend as they start penetrating the masses.   ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Mouldingo on Jan 19, 2007 at 12:16 AM
Yung HDMi is the only way you will be able to enjoy Dolby Digital Lossless audio. This won't work through analog or optical cable...

My mistake, I was reffering to the uncompressed audio used in some BD disc know as PCM 5.1, not the Dolby HD or Dolby 5.1 +. This will come out as ordinary Pro-logic audio through optical cable. You will need the HDMi connection for the digital multi-channel audio.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ash0279 on Mar 06, 2007 at 05:20 PM
hi all,

as a hifi newbie and a new owner of a 2nd hand yammy rx-v620, ive found this thread very helpful.
pls help me tweak this baby further:

ive been hearing a lot about "crossover cut off @ 90hz" related to yamaha's. is this the reason why im missing some bass punches w/ my setup? ( i dont have subwoofer. )

>speakers: Wharfedale diamond 9.1 main & WH2 center/bipolar surrounds.
>i even tried to use "LARGE" mode for the main speakers to force the LFE but i still cant feel the bass.
>bass extension = ON
>bass pot = + 2 db

So pleased w/ its HT performance, most specially with its DTS/DD decoding but im into pop/rock/new wave music most of the time so i need a punchy bass for audio application. I can recall my old Pioneer pro-logic amp do even produce better bass than my new baby the RX-V620.

if i cant fix this, i might be looking for a dedicated integrated amp for my 2ch audio purposes.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: almirage on Mar 06, 2007 at 08:12 PM
(http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/6174/1229200673138pm0001resikz0.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

 





review for the Yamaha RX-V2700
http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/receivers/yamaha-rx-v2700-receiver-review
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Galactus on Mar 08, 2007 at 04:44 PM
Can anybody recommend a branded player below 25k which already has HDMI?

Am about to toss out my HTIB, more than 2 years na rin kasi, and I intend to go the separates route starting with the receiver.  Saw a Pioneer (DTS-ES and DD-EX capable for only 16k, component connections though)

TIA! 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Lantis on Apr 02, 2007 at 09:06 AM
help naman po...

I currently have a Velo VX10 Series II with the following setup: Wharf 9.5, 9CS, and 9SR with Yamaha 659 as the receiver.  The Wharf's sounds too good that when using the subs, parang hindi ko sya marinig.  Kasi when I turn it off the sub and turn it on sa mga loud action scenes I don't hear a difference.  Ayos naman yung sub, I'm not sure what would be the right setting sa likod, or yung setting ng receiver?  Room size is around 4x4 meters (3.5 x 3.5 pa ata).  TIA!  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ash0279 on Apr 02, 2007 at 02:52 PM
hi,

i think thres a bit of mismatch in your avr's settings. im not particular w/ 659's settings but i guess, they have fairly similar setup menus with the 620 (my avr).

my assumptions which might help u tweak ur prob:

since your using a wharf 9.5 you have categorically set the type of front spk=LARGE
 >LARGE = LFE's (which your sub shoud catch will be directed to the Front speakers.
 >SMALL = LFE's will be directed to SUB-OUT provided that:
               > BASS = BOTH or SUB (if = MAIN, then sub-out will be bypassed)

i suggest to set all speakers to SMALL type muna kahit physically u can say that they're large enough (wharf 9.5 & 9CS)

hope this might help,
ash
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ericag_ph on Apr 02, 2007 at 03:07 PM
You could also try increasing the output from the velo...

help naman po...

I currently have a Velo VX10 Series II with the following setup: Wharf 9.5, 9CS, and 9SR with Yamaha 659 as the receiver.  The Wharf's sounds too good that when using the subs, parang hindi ko sya marinig.  Kasi when I turn it off the sub and turn it on sa mga loud action scenes I don't hear a difference.  Ayos naman yung sub, I'm not sure what would be the right setting sa likod, or yung setting ng receiver?  Room size is around 4x4 meters (3.5 x 3.5 pa ata).  TIA!  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Lantis on Apr 02, 2007 at 03:11 PM
hi,

i think thres a bit of mismatch in your avr's settings. im not particular w/ 659's settings but i guess, they have fairly similar setup menus with the 620 (my avr).

my assumptions which might help u tweak ur prob:

since your using a wharf 9.5 you have categorically set the type of front spk=LARGE
 >LARGE = LFE's (which your sub shoud catch will be directed to the Front speakers.
 >SMALL = LFE's will be directed to SUB-OUT provided that:
               > BASS Main = BOTH or SUB (if = MAIN, then sub-out will be bypassed)

i suggest to set all speakers to SMALL type muna kahit physically u can say that they're large enough (wharf 9.5 & 9CS)

hope this might help,
ash

hi ericag,

increasing output? what do you mean by that? sa receiver or sa sub?

hi ash,

thanks for the advice, will try it as soon as I get home.  I remember setting the fronts to large kasi ano... large nga sya (9.5) heheheh  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ash0279 on Apr 02, 2007 at 03:22 PM
hehe, thats the irony of it.
siguro napagod na mga jap engineers nun dinesign itong concept ng speaker types menu. ;D

Quote

hi ash,

thanks for the advice, will try it as soon as I get home.  I remember setting the fronts to large kasi ano... large nga sya (9.5) heheheh  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ericag_ph on Apr 03, 2007 at 12:56 PM

Hi,

From my setup... I can do it two ways.
1.  receiver... increase "bass" volume. (also use a Y cable with your velo, so your output from receiver can go to the left and right inputs on the velo).

2.  velo ... increase the volume level on the velo and/or use HT mode rather than rock or jass/classical mode. (I have a CHT12r)

Not sure if it will apply to your setup, but hope that helps a bit.


hi ericag,

increasing output? what do you mean by that? sa receiver or sa sub?

hi ash,

thanks for the advice, will try it as soon as I get home.  I remember setting the fronts to large kasi ano... large nga sya (9.5) heheheh  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: paolorenzo on Apr 11, 2007 at 03:21 PM
Magkano po ba yung ipod dock YDS-10?  And where is it available?

Anybody who has this?  Sulit ba?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Weng! on Apr 21, 2007 at 07:16 AM
basing on what i have read on this thread that the yammy's are not that good in 2-channel stereo compared to other brands. can this be remedied by using a power amp for stereo listening? can a big old jap surplus power amp equates or perhaps exceed in sound quality when mated with them? just a scenario when comparing them avr's from the likes of denon, hk & etc with the same price range though.

thanks ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Apr 21, 2007 at 12:38 PM
IME, that may be true if you rely on the DAC (preamp) of the Yamaha for music (digital via DVDp for example). But IMO, it is not the case of you use a good CDP (analog), + easier to drive speakers (ie; avoid 4 ohm speakers).

The amp section of the higher models (1000-2000 series) are not bad for audio (w/ a good CDp).

my 2 cents
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Weng! on Apr 22, 2007 at 01:49 AM
matz,

for the models below 1000 series, is the 2-ch stereo sound not good "only" on critical listening? but if it sounds fair on party music i can live with that. i am using my lowly charlize/tono pre-amp combo for audio.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Apr 23, 2007 at 11:57 AM
matz,

for the models below 1000 series, is the 2-ch stereo sound not good "only" on critical listening? but if it sounds fair on party music i can live with that. i am using my lowly charlize/tono pre-amp combo for audio.

Used to have the 650 & 450. for party music or non critical listening, I guess they can do. Just make sure your AVR is well ventilated if you use the 7 channel stereo mode.

I wasnt able to try the "good CDP" recommendation I mentioned above on these models (didnt have a CDp that time yet).

You are using mid level speakers right? dapat mid level AVR's din.  ;) (kantyaw!)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ash0279 on Apr 23, 2007 at 01:01 PM
IME too, sir matzter is right. currently, im using the 620, indeed its not an "out-of-the-box" good audio amp unit. AFAIK, major downside here is the 90Hz crossover freq - causing the lack of booms for a 2ch audio app.

I was able to tweak this by:
> adding a low-end subwoofer and turning off the +6db bass extension switch.
> acquired an old Technics CDP w/ a good DAC from a fellow pdvd'er, and hooked if up using the analog CD input.

result? i was able to satisfy my 2 ears and a "not bad" comment from an audio purist friend :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: docelmo on May 27, 2007 at 09:07 AM

Sirs,
Can my 450 drive a 9.4 and 9.1 at the same time as fronts,
while the rest of the channels drive a 9CM and WH2 surrounds?
 ;D Need advice before i ruin my avr...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ash0279 on Jun 05, 2007 at 04:46 PM
hi docelmo,
u might want to try that right away (A+B setup) but just be careful on turning up the volume.. pakiramdaman nalang ika nga..

for me, this worked using A=MA Rs6 and B=wharf 9.1 under the 620
..setting aside technicalities, i think think this only works well w/ HT setup, but for a constant
beating for a 5ch +B spkrs, i found the 620 giving off heat beyond normal rate thats why i immediately
turned this setup off.

Sirs,
Can my 450 drive a 9.4 and 9.1 at the same time as fronts,
while the rest of the channels drive a 9CM and WH2 surrounds?
 ;D Need advice before i ruin my avr...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: allan1836 on Jun 12, 2007 at 06:02 PM
Mga sirs,
May I ask if it is really a big step up to buy newer generations of Yamaha receivers. I am using a old RX-V995 (100w/5ch.) and I was thinking of upgrading to a RX-V659. Besides the obvious new features like 7.1ch, PLIIx, 96/24 DAC, YPAO, etc. Can you say that in terms of basic sound quality for movies/music, power per ch., and basic surround sound, is there an obvious improvement?
I really don't need 7.1ch since my room is small and my sofa is against the back wall and I noticed that most new films are still based on the 5.1 soundtrack only but I'm willing to upgrade for improve sound ( for music and movies) and power.   
Thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ash0279 on Jun 13, 2007 at 10:47 AM
hi allan, setting aside technicalities of course, we cant compare apple-to-apple between older yammies vs newer generations.
but since you were after sound quality, i think this is a very subjective issue and most likely a debatable one :)

i suggest, if youre on the lookout for a nice sound quality, you might want to consider investing more on your sources (dvd / cd player and of course the speakers--your fronts and center). however, if you already have the php 30k+ worth of speakers, then i suggest now is the time to upgrade your amp/receiver.

just my thoughts sir..

Mga sirs,
May I ask if it is really a big step up to buy newer generations of Yamaha receivers. I am using a old RX-V995 (100w/5ch.) and I was thinking of upgrading to a RX-V659. Besides the obvious new features like 7.1ch, PLIIx, 96/24 DAC, YPAO, etc. Can you say that in terms of basic sound quality for movies/music, power per ch., and basic surround sound, is there an obvious improvement?
I really don't need 7.1ch since my room is small and my sofa is against the back wall and I noticed that most new films are still based on the 5.1 soundtrack only but I'm willing to upgrade for improve sound ( for music and movies) and power.   
Thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jun 13, 2007 at 12:38 PM
Mga sirs,
May I ask if it is really a big step up to buy newer generations of Yamaha receivers. I am using a old RX-V995 (100w/5ch.) and I was thinking of upgrading to a RX-V659. Besides the obvious new features like 7.1ch, PLIIx, 96/24 DAC, YPAO, etc. Can you say that in terms of basic sound quality for movies/music, power per ch., and basic surround sound, is there an obvious improvement?
I really don't need 7.1ch since my room is small and my sofa is against the back wall and I noticed that most new films are still based on the 5.1 soundtrack only but I'm willing to upgrade for improve sound ( for music and movies) and power.   
Thanks.

If it were me, I would not upgrade this way. It may just be a "sidegrade". If you really want a surefire improvement in SQ, try to get the higher models (1000 to 2000 series) for a true "up" grade.

I had a 6 series Yammy before & now a 2000 series. Believe me, they sound different. Its not just the features or price of a few more watts. Its the whole HT experience.

I have read in threads here that Yamaha's are not good for audio: I disagree. The higher models are not so bad for audio IMO (w/ easy to drive speakers), just not as good as a dedicated 2 channel setups (syempre naman!). Just add a good CDp & ok na ok na!

The only problem is that the price of the 2000 series have skyrocketed w/ the addition of HDMI.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Reymer on Jun 13, 2007 at 01:28 PM
Mga sirs,
May I ask if it is really a big step up to buy newer generations of Yamaha receivers. I am using a old RX-V995 (100w/5ch.) and I was thinking of upgrading to a RX-V659. Besides the obvious new features like 7.1ch, PLIIx, 96/24 DAC, YPAO, etc. Can you say that in terms of basic sound quality for movies/music, power per ch., and basic surround sound, is there an obvious improvement?
I really don't need 7.1ch since my room is small and my sofa is against the back wall and I noticed that most new films are still based on the 5.1 soundtrack only but I'm willing to upgrade for improve sound ( for music and movies) and power.   
Thanks.

I agree with Sir Matz. IMO, an upgrade from a 995 would be the 1700 or 2700, not the 659  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: allan1836 on Jun 14, 2007 at 09:45 PM
Thanks guys for your inputs! Though, this is what I'm afraid off, coming from a RX-v995, I have this feeling that an "upgrade" would mean 1k to 2k series.  :-\ I was hoping that the "trickle down" technology, most hifi magz boast about, would mean I can get a new less expensive (mid model) rcvr with past higher model performance.   
I guess it's too good to be true.  :'(
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jun 15, 2007 at 10:13 AM
I have actually researched Yamaha's "trickle down" technology. Since Yamaha is a semi conductor company, the trend is that they trickle down their older LSI chips to the lower models every 4 years (approx), with top models like A series having multiple chips. The flagship Z9 has 4 processors!!!

BUT... I cant seem to find the chipset of the new models in my research, they do not mention it anymore...

So you may not know what you are getting.

Thanks guys for your inputs! Though, this is what I'm afraid off, coming from a RX-v995, I have this feeling that an "upgrade" would mean 1k to 2k series.  :-\ I was hoping that the "trickle down" technology, most hifi magz boast about, would mean I can get a new less expensive (mid model) rcvr with past higher model performance.  
I guess it's too good to be true.  :'(


There is still an option. If you are sure you wont be using HDMI, Get NOS (new old stock) Yamaha 1000 & 2000 series. You may be able to get them at the price of the 659 plus a few k's.  It would still definitely be an upgrade.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: tambutsoo on Jun 15, 2007 at 11:25 AM
magkano po ang 2700 ?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: skylynx888 on Jun 15, 2007 at 11:32 AM
magkano po ang 2700 ?

inquired it 2 days ago, price for 2700 is a whooooooping P72,500.00  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: leomar on Jun 15, 2007 at 02:49 PM
mga sir, magkano na po ang bnew rx-v 659 ngaun?
parang hindi pa ako convinced sa 661 e, hindi pa ata supported ang new HD formats... mas logical ata ang 659 vs 661  ;D 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: skylynx888 on Jun 15, 2007 at 03:12 PM
mga sir, magkano na po ang bnew rx-v 659 ngaun?
parang hindi pa ako convinced sa 661 e, hindi pa ata supported ang new HD formats... mas logical ata ang 659 vs 661  ;D 
RX-V661 supports HD na po
RX-V659 = d pa for HD

you may want to check the marketplace, someone is selling his yammy 659 at p24500.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: leomar on Jun 15, 2007 at 04:36 PM
kaya na po bang magdecode ng 661 ng Dolby TrueHD & DTS HD?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: skylynx888 on Jun 15, 2007 at 04:59 PM
HDMI V1.2 yata ang 661, if i understood it right, dapat v1.3 to be able to decode Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD, and i read it somewhere that there are 2 kinds of DTS-HD, hay naku  ??? ::) ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: leomar on Jun 15, 2007 at 05:05 PM
 ;D akala ko ako lang ang nalilito sa HD formats, hay kelan kaya magstabilize and HD  ???
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: John E. on Jun 19, 2007 at 10:40 AM
 :o malupit pala presyo nyan!

inquired it 2 days ago, price for 2700 is a whooooooping P72,500.00  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ericag_ph on Jun 20, 2007 at 08:15 PM
anyone in singapore or dubai here??

I am guessing the 2700 is 40% cheaper elsewhere.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: leomar on Jun 29, 2007 at 10:34 PM
mga sir, pa-advise naman po...
kaya po bang i-power ng yammy 559 ang mission M31i at M3c2i? maganda ba ang tunog ng ganitong combi?
gagamitin ko po sana mostly for HT  Grin

maraming salamat po...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jpeg on Jul 16, 2007 at 11:42 PM
Would just like to ask if anyone has heard the Yammy 659 paired with B&W 600 series? How does it fair in audio?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: pchin on Jul 17, 2007 at 08:16 AM
i read it somewhere that there are 2 kinds of DTS-HD, hay naku  ??? ::) ;D

Yep. DTS-HD Master Audio & DTS-HD High Resolution Audio. Very confusing indeed.  ;D

More info: DTS Online (http://www.dtsonline.com/dts-hd/dts-on-bluray-and-hddvd.php)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: pekspert on Jul 17, 2007 at 08:36 AM
Can someone with a RXV 2500 please confirm if the remote control's model number is RAV-351?

TIA  :)


RXV-2500 owner here..my remote says RAV-352 but mine is the US/Canada model. So it might be 351 for the asian model.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jul 17, 2007 at 10:49 AM
Thanks Peks, I already had a replacement remote (352) a few months ago.  :) 351 doesnt work very well w/ the 2500.

Would just like to ask if anyone has heard the Yammy 659 paired with B&W 600 series? How does it fair in audio?

I would recommend try to get at least the top 2 mid receiver models (35-60k) of any receiver brand to match the mid level B&W 600 series. Or use it with power amps.

IMO, mid level speakers are more revealing than their entry level counterparts, same is true w/ mid receivers w/ better processors. So it would be an utter waste to use a revealing speaker to a less revealing receiver . And we are not talking about the improved power supply of the mid receivers yet...

Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: threadlock on Aug 16, 2007 at 05:46 PM
mga bros, what affordable mid-level speaker set is best paired with Yamaha 659?
I will use it together with a 5-ch power amp and intended to use for 70/30 HT/audio.
Many thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kefq on Aug 16, 2007 at 05:58 PM
mga bros, what affordable mid-level speaker set is best paired with Yamaha 659?
I will use it together with a 5-ch power amp and intended to use for 70/30 HT/audio.
Many thanks!


Kef Q Series. Im using it with a yamaha DSPA1. Bang for the Buck!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: threadlock on Aug 16, 2007 at 06:06 PM
Kef Q Series. Im using it with a yamaha DSPA1. Bang for the Buck!

sir kefq, saan po available ang kefq speaker set and magkano kaya?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kefq on Aug 17, 2007 at 01:18 PM
sir kefq, saan po available ang kefq speaker set and magkano kaya?

Try Sonny Tuason of The Home Theater or Sound Dimesion in Park Square if they have New Old Stocks.A Kef Q1 is arounf 17k. I have 2 pairs of Q1 and a Matching Q9C and been using them since I started in this hobby.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 18, 2007 at 01:42 PM
mga bros, what affordable mid-level speaker set is best paired with Yamaha 659?
I will use it together with a 5-ch power amp and intended to use for 70/30 HT/audio.
Many thanks!


Since you have power amps to handle the speakers, you can even go for the harder to drive (but great sounding) speakers of the mid range category. Suggestions:

Dynaudio Audience
B&W 6 series
Mission 5 series
Monitor Audio RS series
Paradigm
Dali Ikon

This also lessens the upgrade fever. >:D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dyerds on Aug 22, 2007 at 09:34 PM
Mga sir i just need some advice from you...Mag setup po ako ng HT ko by September (At long last!). Planning to buy Yamaha receiver to pair with Wharf 9.5 and probably Velodyne VX-10 sub (entry level). Pero I got some advice that Yamaha is a little bit thin when it comes to sound and I need powerful receiver like HK, Marantz or Denon to drive my speaker. Before, my mind is set to buy Yamaha but now I'm thinking twice if I'm going to buy Yame or one of those receivers that they say is better.  What can you say about this?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 23, 2007 at 12:15 PM
Mga sir i just need some advice from you...Mag setup po ako ng HT ko by September (At long last!). Planning to buy Yamaha receiver to pair with Wharf 9.5 and probably Velodyne VX-10 sub (entry level). Pero I got some advice that Yamaha is a little bit thin when it comes to sound and I need powerful receiver like HK, Marantz or Denon to drive my speaker. Before, my mind is set to buy Yamaha but now I'm thinking twice if I'm going to buy Yame or one of those receivers that they say is better.  What can you say about this?

I also found the HK200 series thin sounding compared to my 600 series HK. Thats why I keep recommending mid level receivers cuz they sound fuller, Yammies included. What people say about yammies sounding thin & not that good in music applies only to its entry levels, IMhO.

A more powerful receiver? You might have to pay a higher price for that, as most entry level power levels are almost the same, as I read in a HT article, the manufacturers are severely limited in their budget w/ sub-$500 receivers. Just be sure to get a model w/ pre outs. So you can add power amps in the future for more power.

Maybe its the warmer sound that you are looking for. Onkyo entry levels are very warm sounding but I would never personally recommend them w/ the warm Wharfe's, as they will not complement each other (too warm, no more details). And no pre outs too :'(

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Aug 23, 2007 at 09:31 PM
Just bought B&W 602s3 and Wharf DFS.9 from SGT The Home Theater last August 15.  This is to replace my generic DIY front and surround speakers driven by my Yamaha RXV550.  Wow, the difference in sound quality is night and day!!  Now I realized what I am missing for the past 3 years with the old generic speaker set up, being a 90/10 (HT/music) user.  I dunno why peple say that 602s3 are "hard to drive" speakers, actually it is not.  My Yammy 550 drives these 602 with ease, mainly because the 602 is rated at 90db sensitivity.  And the sound is full bodied, not "manipis" as usually mentioned here.  In fact, I have to reduce the sub's and receiver's tone settings by 2 notches as compared to my old speakers.  I tried this set-up in karaoke, using Yammy's "Concert Hall" DSP and Shure SM58 microphone, my voice quality improved 10-folds!!!  :D ;D :)

My next project is the Velo CHT-R12, to replace my US Audio 12" sub. ::)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: vtec3 on Aug 23, 2007 at 10:29 PM
Mga sir i just need some advice from you...Mag setup po ako ng HT ko by September (At long last!). Planning to buy Yamaha receiver to pair with Wharf 9.5 and probably Velodyne VX-10 sub (entry level). Pero I got some advice that Yamaha is a little bit thin when it comes to sound and I need powerful receiver like HK, Marantz or Denon to drive my speaker. Before, my mind is set to buy Yamaha but now I'm thinking twice if I'm going to buy Yame or one of those receivers that they say is better.  What can you say about this?

sir naku in this hobby there seems to be little cure sa SARS. if i where you i will follow the suggestion of Matz. I have made mistakes na several times which I am trying to correct now. I have a Yamaha amp and a Marantz just bought another Yamaha last sunday  ???

I like the Yamaha over the Marantz  :D Yun nga lang yung Marantz may pre-outs kahit entry level lang  ;) Try to audition also the Wharf Evo series.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dyerds on Aug 24, 2007 at 12:14 AM
sir naku in this hobby there seems to be little cure sa SARS. if i where you i will follow the suggestion of Matz. I have made mistakes na several times which I am trying to correct now. I have a Yamaha amp and a Marantz just bought another Yamaha last sunday  ???

I like the Yamaha over the Marantz  :D Yun nga lang yung Marantz may pre-outs kahit entry level lang  ;) Try to audition also the Wharf Evo series.


I'll check it out sir. Check ko rin kung kasya sa budget ko.  ;D

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You mean...It doesn't really matter what receiver I buy as long as it is an entry level thin sounding din ang kalalalabasan. Pero do you recommend that I buy Yame instead of other receivers? Well...I'll audition some of those receivers first before I decide what to buy. I just need your opinion kasi ang hirap ng napakadaming brands na pagpipilian.  :'(
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Aug 24, 2007 at 09:26 AM
I'll check it out sir. Check ko rin kung kasya sa budget ko.  ;D

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You mean...It doesn't really matter what receiver I buy as long as it is an entry level thin sounding din ang kalalalabasan. Pero do you recommend that I buy Yame instead of other receivers? Well...I'll audition some of those receivers first before I decide what to buy. I just need your opinion kasi ang hirap ng napakadaming brands na pagpipilian.  :'(


Thats not true ... unless you are buying a souped up amplifier where the lower bass were equalized to be prominent and have it sound more mataba - this are quite typical on so called 'high ends'. Pure and simple amplifier are most likely available with entry levels because cost is an issue, they cant put more vanilla in it. That's why, even in shoot out, it is common to have simple amps taking preferential attention - for the simple reason amp is amp.

The only reason you will go to higher model is your requirement of power because of the behavior of your chosen speaker. Again, those high end speakers more often than not exhibit low sensitivity (hard to drive) or erratic impedance swings which makes an amplifier go down to its knees.

The entry level Yamaha is of course thin on some poorly selected speakers matched into it ... but it is whole bodied for the right speakers it was matched to. Even high powered high end amplifier can succumb to a badly designed or poorly mathed speakers into it.  ;D I have Yamaha 630 myself before which perform contrary to general experience of some people here - simply because I mated it with the right speakers. I sold it already when I seldom used my HT and have just small amp. But, am planning to get another Yamaha, regardless whether it is the entry model or higher.

Thus, it boils down to what you have (speakers) or what you want to happen (choosing the right speaker for the receiver). Although amp and speaker were made using scientific concepts, ours is not a perfect world. Choosing what sounds right to your ears, and mating speaker/amp/player/music materials will still be an art that only you should appreciate and decide. Dont trust their ears, trust yours!

ALso be careful about hypes ... hypes were made to sell products  ;D.

... looking at my 60W per channel monoblocks - it has 4 JFET per channel .... I have a Yamaha AVR1000 with 4 transistor per channel giving 110W per channel .. for high end, the vintage 100W will be complemented by typically 4-8 transistor ... current Yamaha models can put out 105W using 2 transistors within its THD rating ... If a highend also uses 2 transistor per channel to put out same power, I dont know what's the difference with their amplifiers! The transformers are just there to supply power - but to handle music swings (power), the transistors are the one conducting the whole scenario.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Aug 24, 2007 at 09:40 AM
sir naku in this hobby there seems to be little cure sa SARS. if i where you i will follow the suggestion of Matz. I have made mistakes na several times which I am trying to correct now. I have a Yamaha amp and a Marantz just bought another Yamaha last sunday  ???

I like the Yamaha over the Marantz  :D Yun nga lang yung Marantz may pre-outs kahit entry level lang  ;) Try to audition also the Wharf Evo series.



Do you want to sell your Yamaha?  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: allan1836 on Aug 24, 2007 at 09:49 AM

Thats not true ... unless you are buying a souped up amplifier where the lower bass were equalized to be prominent and have it sound more mataba - this are quite typical on so called 'high ends'. Pure and simple amplifier are most likely available with entry levels because cost is an issue, they cant put more vanilla in it. That's why, even in shoot out, it is common to have simple amps taking preferential attention - for the simple reason amp is amp.

The only reason you will go to higher model is your requirement of power because of the behavior of your chosen speaker. Again, those high end speakers more often than not exhibit low sensitivity (hard to drive) or erratic impedance swings which makes an amplifier go down to its knees.

The entry level Yamaha is of course thin on some poorly selected speakers matched into it ... but it is whole bodied for the right speakers it was matched to. Even high powered high end amplifier can succumb to a badly designed or poorly mathed speakers into it.  ;D I have Yamaha 630 myself before which perform contrary to general experience of some people here - simply because I mated it with the right speakers. I sold it already when I seldom used my HT and have just small amp. But, am planning to get another Yamaha, regardless whether it is the entry model or higher.

Thus, it boils down to what you have (speakers) or what you want to happen (choosing the right speaker for the receiver). Although amp and speaker were made using scientific concepts, ours is not a perfect world. Choosing what sounds right to your ears, and mating speaker/amp/player/music materials will still be an art that only you should appreciate and decide. Dont trust their ears, trust yours!

ALso be careful about hypes ... hypes were made to sell products  ;D.

... looking at my 60W per channel monoblocks - it has 4 JFET per channel .... I have a Yamaha AVR1000 with 4 transistor per channel giving 110W per channel .. for high end, the vintage 100W will be complemented by typically 4-8 transistor ... current Yamaha models can put out 105W using 2 transistors within its THD rating ... If a highend also uses 2 transistor per channel to put out same power, I dont know what's the difference with their amplifiers! The transformers are just there to supply power - but to handle music swings (power), the transistors are the one conducting the whole scenario.

Sir, you got a point here since most amps really sound the same if driven at the same level (less than 1% THD) with the same speakers and everything else constant. Besides the speaker matching, probably another culprit of the thin sound might be the quality or design of the pre-amp section of the receiver. Some brands might have almost the same pre-amp design in their series that's why even their entry level model ay "mataba" sounding though with limited power and features. Others, like Yamaha, might have different pre-amp design for certain models.  :)      
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: vtec3 on Aug 24, 2007 at 09:57 AM

Do you want to sell your Yamaha?  ;D  ;D  ;D

love my Yamaha  ;D pero yung Marantz really thinking of selling it  ;) Might sell also my newly purchase RXv 659 still in the box and dipa nagagamit, baka bili na lang ako ng mid level amp  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Aug 24, 2007 at 12:12 PM
Sir, you got a point here since most amps really sound the same if driven at the same level (less than 1% THD) with the same speakers and everything else constant. Besides the speaker matching, probably another culprit of the thin sound might be the quality or design of the pre-amp section of the receiver. Some brands might have almost the same pre-amp design in their series that's why even their entry level model ay "mataba" sounding though with limited power and features. Others, like Yamaha, might have different pre-amp design for certain models.  :)      

You are correct. I read thoroughly the marketing campaign of Yamaha TOP-art design - whether true or not, is a very good concept in itself. Not much anything to do in the signal path. I verified the thin sound with my 8.3 not in the amp section of Yamaha - but in the pre-amp section - since I hooked the pre-out to my monoblocks, and the resulting sound to my 8.3 is almost the same (thin like). But AFAIK, it is very clean and smooth - which I like. Wonder why Yamaha leads in HT (could it be the accurate decoding?)

Later, I have to state 8.3 is not good for yamaha with 86db sensitivity. With a decent sub, an 8.1 to Yamaha is a superb quality but economical in cost. Get a high sensitivity speaker (90db and up) and you will know how yamaha amp excels as other have discovered. I just regret too few on the higher sensitivity speaker which you can buy now.

Try to hook your CD player via the RCA (meaning the CDP decodes) and Yamaha will have a different sonic signature depending what codecs were used in the CDP.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Aug 24, 2007 at 12:19 PM
love my Yamaha  ;D pero yung Marantz really thinking of selling it  ;) Might sell also my newly purchase RXv 659 still in the box and dipa nagagamit, baka bili na lang ako ng mid level amp  ;)

magkano mo benta?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: vtec3 on Aug 24, 2007 at 01:53 PM
magkano mo benta?

which one yung Yamaha 659? if ever sir kung magkano ko na purchase 27k  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: allan1836 on Aug 24, 2007 at 04:21 PM
You are correct. I read thoroughly the marketing campaign of Yamaha TOP-art design - whether true or not, is a very good concept in itself. Not much anything to do in the signal path. I verified the thin sound with my 8.3 not in the amp section of Yamaha - but in the pre-amp section - since I hooked the pre-out to my monoblocks, and the resulting sound to my 8.3 is almost the same (thin like). But AFAIK, it is very clean and smooth - which I like. Wonder why Yamaha leads in HT (could it be the accurate decoding?)

Later, I have to state 8.3 is not good for yamaha with 86db sensitivity. With a decent sub, an 8.1 to Yamaha is a superb quality but economical in cost. Get a high sensitivity speaker (90db and up) and you will know how yamaha amp excels as other have discovered. I just regret too few on the higher sensitivity speaker which you can buy now.

Try to hook your CD player via the RCA (meaning the CDP decodes) and Yamaha will have a different sonic signature depending what codecs were used in the CDP.  :)

Yamaha leads in HT precisely because of their DSP decoding not because of their 2ch audio sound.

I believe in order to produce substancial low bass for a small bookshelf you need to sacrifice sensitivity for higher mass and more robust mechanical parts, that's why few hi sensitivity speakers come out this days.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: reynold on Aug 24, 2007 at 04:39 PM
If you are more into HT, go for yamaha, no doubt about it ;)  And a not so expensive separate audio setup para mas ok, imo ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dyerds on Aug 24, 2007 at 07:14 PM
One more thing...Yame 659 din ang balak ko bilhin (I think this has pre-out) and Wharfe 9.5 since I already auditon this. Nasiyahan naman ako sa tunog nya.  ;D The problem is I'm not that good when it comes to sound so I don't know kung manipis ba yung narinig ko or hindi (lumaki kasi ako sa component eh.  ;D). Do you think this would be a good pair?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: et414 on Aug 24, 2007 at 07:33 PM
basta masaya ka why not? ;D you'll only find out what you like through experience. listen to your own ears dude :) at least w/ pre-outs you have the option to upgrade to power amps if ever you get infected w/ sars ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Aug 24, 2007 at 08:02 PM
.....I verified the thin sound with my 8.3 not in the amp section of Yamaha - but in the pre-amp section - since I hooked the pre-out to my monoblocks, and the resulting sound to my 8.3 is almost the same (thin like). But AFAIK, it is very clean and smooth - which I like. Wonder why Yamaha leads in HT (could it be the accurate decoding?)

......Get a high sensitivity speaker (90db and up) and you will know how yamaha amp excels as other have discovered. I just regret too few on the higher sensitivity speaker which you can buy now.

This is very correct!!!  Yung thin sound na sinasabi ay dahil nga sa preamp.  Kasi sa Yammy550 ko paired with B&W602s3, thin and bright nga sya pero nung inadjust ko ang treble sa -2 at yung bass sa +4, wow factor na sya, I got a well balanced audio sound.  Gumanda yung vocals at nagkaron ng punch ang instrumentals without turning-on the subs at naka full stereo DSP lang.  This is, in my case, the optimum tone adjustment for Yammy550 and B&W602s3 pair.  Maybe it follows na rin sa ibang Yammy models.

The 602s3 is rated at 90db, walang kahirap-hirap ang Yammy550 ko to drive the B&W's!  Kahit nga sa karaoke mode wherein very spiky ang volume due to live singing, kayang-kaya dalhin ng Yammy!  My actual experience disproves the claims here that 602s3 is a "hard to drive" speaker...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: vtec3 on Aug 24, 2007 at 09:56 PM
One more thing...Yame 659 din ang balak ko bilhin (I think this has pre-out) and Wharfe 9.5 since I already auditon this. Nasiyahan naman ako sa tunog nya.  ;D The problem is I'm not that good when it comes to sound so I don't know kung manipis ba yung narinig ko or hindi (lumaki kasi ako sa component eh.  ;D). Do you think this would be a good pair?

hirap ng humanap ng RXV 659 dahil ang sabi mayron ng dadating na RXV 661  ;) hope the price is the same as the 659. Sa US both model are priced exactly the same. Had no room na lang sa baggage ko that is why I was not able to buy the 661  ;)

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Aug 25, 2007 at 11:37 AM
...
Yamaha leads in HT precisely because of their DSP decoding not because of their 2ch audio sound.


... bakit, may narinig ka na bang nag lead sa 2-ch audio worldwide ???  ;D  ;D  ;D

we have different wants on our audio (2ch) ... because if somebody (like Yamaha Top-ART) decoded that audio correctly, not everybody will want it ... so the vanilla of tuning amp/receivers to different taste following is more commercially viable to those who want to satisfy one's taste!




I believe in order to produce substancial low bass for a small bookshelf you need to sacrifice sensitivity for higher mass and more robust mechanical parts, that's why few hi sensitivity speakers come out this days.  :)


correct ... tweeters are by far the highest sensitivity in a speaker, the bass portion is limited both by the parts, the box and its commercial viability ... so to make it linear frequency wise, sensitivity has to be sacrificed



...
inadjust ko ang treble sa -2 at yung bass sa +4, wow factor na sya, I got a well balanced audio sound.  Gumanda yung vocals at nagkaron ng punch ang instrumentals without turning-on the subs at naka full stereo DSP lang.  This is, in my case, the optimum tone adjustment for Yammy550 and B&W602s3 pair.  Maybe it follows na rin sa ibang Yammy models.

The 602s3 is rated at 90db, walang kahirap-hirap ang Yammy550 ko to drive the B&W's!  Kahit nga sa karaoke mode wherein very spiky ang volume due to live singing, kayang-kaya dalhin ng Yammy!  My actual experience disproves the claims here that 602s3 is a "hard to drive" speaker
...

You got the idea ... just dont understand some people wanted it the hard way ... bi-amp here & there ... bi-wire here & there ... find the right equalization to the speaker by changing gears here & there ... whereas all those activities are just altering the tonal (equalization) characteristics of what they wanted to hear ... I dont know why those receivers incorporated those tone controls, aesthetics?  ;D  ;D

Commercially, this is what those high end wanted us to believe in ... so they can always hype what they've got ... putting a permanent tone filter before the amp stage and sell the amp with that puny filters/tone control to the unsuspecting consumers at exhorbitant price

And some people even believe, putting a higher amp power right after your pre-out will change sonic signature  ???  ??? ... it will just be louder with the same sonic signature  ;D  ;D  ;D ... unless another puny thing has been kept secret inside the power amp! Business as usual!  8)  8)  8)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 25, 2007 at 12:51 PM
I agree, thats why I have always recommended a good CD player (via pure direct) instead for Yamaha's audio applications, or (IMhO) the more musical higher models. Thats why even as a processor for power amps, I would still prefer to use the mid models.

Power amps have a different task, but they dont just give a louder volume, but also better SQ cuz of more breathing room for dynamics, regardless of high or low sensitivity speakers. But in the case of a hard to drive/power hungry speaker mated to an underpowered receiver, the sound will tend to sound thin and a power amp will help a lot in this case to change that...on high or low volumes.

One of my experiements:

Bada tube CDp---> Bada Tube preamp---> Yamaha 2500 (in pure direct)--->Rotel Power amp---> Dynaudio speakers.

The concept is to squeeze the Yamaha in between an otherwise all-audio setup. It did well for me in audio, specially cuz the volume can be controlled via remote!

Best of all it can be used for HT too even w/ a different center speaker, thanks to the 2500's YPAO calibration mike that equalizes the center & surrounds to the tone of the front speakers!

(http://www.iconarchive.com/icons/fasticon/beach/crab-128x128.png)Yipee! I just love Yamaha technology!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: allan1836 on Aug 25, 2007 at 05:53 PM
You got the idea ... just dont understand some people wanted it the hard way ... bi-amp here & there ... bi-wire here & there ... find the right equalization to the speaker by changing gears here & there ... whereas all those activities are just altering the tonal (equalization) characteristics of what they wanted to hear ... I dont know why those receivers incorporated those tone controls, aesthetics?   

It's really funny how so called "audiophiles" swear over tone controls and pay big bucks for bare pre-amps with almost nothing inside but just a volume pot and a selector. ??? Very ironic indeed, because your supposed to pay for what is inside.  ;D
Though, in a way, I'm also a victim of this so called "purist ideology", wherein, I feel uneasy when using the infamous bass and treble controls. I was thinking dinadaya ko yung sound but come to think of it, we sometimes just need to alter the sound because of outside variables like room acoustics, speaker placement and of course, the character of the speakers used themselves.
We need to alter the sound if our environment is not perfect, to preserve the original neutral recording which is being changed by said variables.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: KwekuClyde on Aug 27, 2007 at 02:48 PM
Sirs, have a yammy 659, use it with Wharfe 9.5, 9CS, WH2 and 9CR, VX10 Series II, and DTX 4.15. been using it for HT since i acquired it. Yesterday tried hooking up my ipod to it using regular rca in enhanced 2ch and 7ch.

Question is how come it doesn't use the subs? Is there anyway to force it to use the subs?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Reymer on Aug 28, 2007 at 09:21 AM
Check your speaker setting, if your main speakers are set to Large, set it to Small
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: obey on Aug 28, 2007 at 09:41 AM
Check your speaker setting, if your main speakers are set to Large, set it to Small

This is correct.  You can also try to set your LFE to BOTH instead of SWFR (if you still want to set your speakers as Large).  This way your main speakers and subwoofer will receive the LFE signals. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 28, 2007 at 10:23 AM
IMO, "Manipis" is not a really a bad thing for HT (wag lang manipis cuz of underpowered amp section+hard to drive speaker). It brings out the details but maybe fails to impress for music. Some receivers I have tried are "thick" sounding (great in audio) but fail to be as detailed. But they present details in a crisp powerful manner, w/c also was not bad IMO.

It just depends on w/c presentation you prefer.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: threadlock on Sep 03, 2007 at 06:45 PM
One of my experiements:

Bada tube CDp---> Bada Tube preamp---> Yamaha 2500 (in pure direct)--->Rotel Power amp---> Dynaudio speakers.

(http://www.iconarchive.com/icons/fasticon/beach/crab-128x128.png)Yipee! I just love Yamaha technology!

sir matz, ok lang kung sa ganitong setup eh hindi gumamit ng tube pre-amp? I mean what's the effect if my setup is like this:

Bada tube CDp---> Yamaha 659(in pure direct)--->Bada Power amp---> Mission M52 speakers
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: audiojunkie on Sep 03, 2007 at 08:17 PM
Bada tube CDp---> Yamaha 659(in pure direct)--->Bada Power amp---> Mission M52 speakers

Try it and tell us the result.... ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 04, 2007 at 11:06 AM
sir matz, ok lang kung sa ganitong setup eh hindi gumamit ng tube pre-amp? I mean what's the effect if my setup is like this:

Bada tube CDp---> Yamaha 659(in pure direct)--->Bada Power amp---> Mission M52 speakers

I just arranged my setup like that last week, then inserted the tube preamp after a few days (yesterday).

Both are good, there is just a more "tubey" sound when you insert the tube preamp.

Nice speakers! Used to have em before. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: docelmo on Sep 15, 2007 at 12:00 AM

Sir!
A yammy 800 and 995 are in the B/S section....which of the two is a better all-around amp?
Thanks! ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ricky on Sep 15, 2007 at 09:32 AM
Sir!
A yammy 800 and 995 are in the B/S section....which of the two is a better all-around amp?
Thanks! ;D

For me its the 800, specs wise and bec its one of the earlier models na mabibigat pa meaning hindi pa tinipid yung cost of production :D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Sep 17, 2007 at 07:26 AM
995 hindi na tipid sa parts top-of-the-line pa, yun nga lang 5.1
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: audiojunkie on Sep 17, 2007 at 01:16 PM
995 hindi na tipid sa parts top-of-the-line pa, yun nga lang 5.1

meron ba itong preout for 7.1 option? Also, only few movies have 7.1 audio config. only those 
with EX-Suround.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Sep 17, 2007 at 07:07 PM
may pre out siya on all channel's
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: audiojunkie on Sep 17, 2007 at 07:13 PM
may pre out siya on all channel's


What i mean was,  ::)  option for 7.1 preout so you can just add ext. amp for the 2 Sur. back channel... if it has, it's a good feature.. ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Sep 18, 2007 at 12:46 PM

What i mean was,  ::)  option for 7.1 preout so you can just add ext. amp for the 2 Sur. back channel... if it has, it's a good feature.. ;D

no it doesnt have but ive told you its a top-of-the-line 5.1 avr. but its worth-it, this amp last for a very long time... 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: threadlock on Sep 18, 2007 at 07:33 PM
daming nagbebenta ng yamaha sa B&S ngayon ah, bakit kaya? hmmm.... ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: audiojunkie on Sep 18, 2007 at 08:21 PM
daming nagbebenta ng yamaha sa B&S ngayon ah, bakit kaya? hmmm.... ;D

Maybe they are more incline now to music and get more musical receiver....  :D  ::)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Sep 18, 2007 at 09:11 PM
ako alam ko reason SARS at HDMI
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: audiojunkie on Sep 18, 2007 at 09:46 PM
ako alam ko reason SARS at HDMI

For HDMI alone, a better DVD player with that feature is enough to make direct connection to your LCD or Plasma Monitor...  ::)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Sep 19, 2007 at 01:27 PM
Guys share ko lang ito.  I will  be replacing my Yammy RX-V550 with a brand new old stock RX-V1400.  What do you think guys, is this an upgrade or a downgrade?  My current speaker setup are: B&W602s3 fronts, LCR60 center and Warf bi-polar surrounds.

Thanks.   :) :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 19, 2007 at 01:34 PM
Of course its an upgrade. They use different higher quality parts starting at the 1000 series.

Congrats! very clever & practical choice in choosing NOS higher series. Its the same price as the 6 series if I am correct.

for best results get a Rotel power amp. Perfect w/ B&W's! >:D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Sep 19, 2007 at 01:55 PM
Thanks MAtZTER for the info.  The RX-V1400 will be delivered to me this coming Saturday, together with the Velodyne CHT-12R.   :) :)  Got the 1400 for 26K brandnew and still sealed, is this a fair price?  I will study your suggestion regarding Rotel amps.  By the way, I heard about BADA amps, is it good also vs Rotel?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 19, 2007 at 04:06 PM
Thanks MAtZTER for the info.  The RX-V1400 will be delivered to me this coming Saturday, together with the Velodyne CHT-12R.   :) :)  Got the 1400 for 26K brandnew and still sealed, is this a fair price?  I will study your suggestion regarding Rotel amps.  By the way, I heard about BADA amps, is it good also vs Rotel?  ;D ;D

Thats a really good price for a mid level receiver, almost same as the 6 series already! Ang mahal na kasi ng HDMI receivers ng Yammy & according to what I read, you can still benefit from the new surround formats using the 7.1 inputs of all receivers anyway. So I went for a NOS Yamaha myself early this year, hehe ;D

Rotels are perfect match w/ B&W's, thats a proven fact. Being a Rotel user & loyalist myself (& a firm believer in the benefits of a power amp), I would recommend it if its w/in your budget. But if budget is an issue, try the Bada's w/ almost the same specs & build quality but lower price. SQ wise its less bright than the Rotels :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: audiojunkie on Sep 19, 2007 at 04:27 PM
Sir, I salute you in your selling power!... Any hints or pointers?... :D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 19, 2007 at 04:48 PM
S-I-N-C-E-R-I-T-Y 8)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Sep 19, 2007 at 04:50 PM
Thats a really good price for a mid level receiver, almost same as the 6 series already! Ang mahal na kasi ng HDMI receivers ng Yammy & according to what I read, you can still benefit from the new surround formats using the 7.1 inputs of all receivers anyway. So I went for a NOS Yamaha myself early this year, hehe ;D

Rotels are perfect match w/ B&W's, thats a proven fact. Being a Rotel user & loyalist myself (& a firm believer in the benefits of a power amp), I would recommend it if its w/in your budget. But if budget is an issue, try the Bada's w/ almost the same specs & build quality but lower price. SQ wise its less bright than the Rotels :)

Whats NOS YAMAHA?  Ok ba ang Yamaha 1800 for Wharfes? or better sya for B & W?  How much ba Rotel amps compatible with the Yamaha 1800 or is it really needed?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 19, 2007 at 05:27 PM
NOS means New Old Stock. Older models but still new. Price=lower

Based on what I read (not my personal experience) Wharfes are better for Yamaha. If you are going to get the 1800, go for the mid level Wharfes like Evo's.

How much ba Rotel amps compatible with the Yamaha 1800 or is it really needed?

Really needed: no. But its a great upgrade path for more power & better performance. Also great for big rooms. Most high end 100+k receivers use torroidal power supplies used in power amps like Rotel. See the Yamaha Z9's power supply :o.

Rotel 5 channel amp: P56k. Rotel 2 channel amp: P34k

More about power amp advantages read reply 28 here (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=68465.28)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: audiojunkie on Sep 19, 2007 at 05:33 PM
S-I-N-C-E-R-I-T-Y 8)

S-I-N-C-E-R-E naman ako sa mga business deals ko.... ;D except sa ibang personal things, but only ocassional...  ::)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kingkydoo on Sep 20, 2007 at 08:35 AM
Mga sirs,

May upconversion feature ba ang Yamaha RX-V659 thru comonent? Hanggang anong resolution?
Sa spec sheet may nakalagay e. Pero sa manual wala naman kung paano i-set. Auto ba? Ito balak ko

Standard DVDp (no upconversion feature) -----> RX-V659 ----> HDTV (max 720p)

Thru component cables yan.

Kaya ba? Yung Pioneer DV-600 at DV-400 kasi upconvert lang thru HDMI e(Wala ako HDMI)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mike c on Sep 20, 2007 at 07:09 PM
Mga sirs,

May upconversion feature ba ang Yamaha RX-V659 thru comonent? Hanggang anong resolution?
Sa spec sheet may nakalagay e. Pero sa manual wala naman kung paano i-set. Auto ba? Ito balak ko

Standard DVDp (no upconversion feature) -----> RX-V659 ----> HDTV (max 720p)

Thru component cables yan.

Kaya ba? Yung Pioneer DV-600 at DV-400 kasi upconvert lang thru HDMI e(Wala ako HDMI)

may upconverting ang yamaha 659.  unfortunately, what you need is UPSCALING. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kingkydoo on Sep 20, 2007 at 10:52 PM
may upconverting ang yamaha 659.  unfortunately, what you need is UPSCALING. 

Ah ok. What's the difference between upconverting and upscaling?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Toslink on Sep 21, 2007 at 12:12 AM
Ah ok. What's the difference between upconverting and upscaling?

same with sir kingkydoo... mga bosiing whats d difference? i also have yammy 659  ???
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sirhcuss_v2 on Sep 21, 2007 at 06:55 AM
Thanks MAtZTER for the info.  The RX-V1400 will be delivered to me this coming Saturday, together with the Velodyne CHT-12R.   :) :)  Got the 1400 for 26K brandnew and still sealed, is this a fair price?  I will study your suggestion regarding Rotel amps.  By the way, I heard about BADA amps, is it good also vs Rotel?  ;D ;D

sir question, san nyo po nabili ung rx v1400?? is it a shop or thru online?? do they have installment options like 0% 12 mos? tnx. :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Weng! on Sep 21, 2007 at 01:25 PM
pa PM din sir saan mo nabili ang yammy 1400. i have a 7-pc speaker set (wharfe evo) and a DTX4.15 sub waiting for an amp. hopefully maka tyempo din ng ganitong deal para mabuo na ang system ko.

thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: rexdc on Sep 24, 2007 at 10:03 PM
guys available na ba locally ang rx-v1800?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: audiojunkie on Sep 24, 2007 at 10:32 PM
guys available na ba locally ang rx-v1800?

Is it old model of yame?...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: pchin on Sep 24, 2007 at 11:31 PM
Yamaha RX-V1800 is the latest model that support both Dolby TrueHD & DTS-HD Master Audio. It has the latest HDMI 1.3a specification support & video upscaling to 1080p.

Full specs:
http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/products/ht/rxv1800.html
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Mo®pHeOu$ on Sep 26, 2007 at 08:45 PM
this must cost an arm and a leg. hehehe ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Sep 27, 2007 at 10:16 AM
Maybe just an arm.  ;D   While it supports the newer codecs, I don't think it's in the same league as the Z9 flagship. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Sep 27, 2007 at 10:23 AM
Maybe just an arm.  ;D   While it supports the newer codecs, I don't think it's in the same league as the Z9 flagship. 

Way too expensive ang Z9.. almost $4,000.00.. It is a high-end receiver. In fact it is the flagship receiver of Yamaha presently.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: pchin on Sep 27, 2007 at 10:34 AM
At $4,000 for the Z9..now this will cost you an arm and a leg  ;D

So av_phile1 is right to say the Yamaha RX-V1800 will just cost an arm lang. LOL :P
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kane on Sep 27, 2007 at 10:47 AM
yamaha has a new flagship receiver. RX-Z11.  Its 11.2, will be available by november. I think its around $5000. Lupit!!

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/productdetail.html?CNTID=558249&CTID=5000300 (http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/productdetail.html?CNTID=558249&CTID=5000300)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Sep 27, 2007 at 12:25 PM
yamaha has a new flagship receiver. RX-Z11.  Its 11.2, will be available by november. I think its around $5000. Lupit!!

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/productdetail.html?CNTID=558249&CTID=5000300 (http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/productdetail.html?CNTID=558249&CTID=5000300)

I stand corrected.  Z11 na pala flagship ng Yamaha now..   ;D ;D ;D  Z9 will cost around $2K at present..  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: audiojunkie on Sep 27, 2007 at 12:45 PM
yamaha has a new flagship receiver. RX-Z11.  Its 11.2, will be available by november. I think its around $5000. Lupit!!

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/productdetail.html?CNTID=558249&CTID=5000300 (http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/productdetail.html?CNTID=558249&CTID=5000300)

IMHO, I won't go this FAR for a receiver, You can get separates with almost same amount but has more flexibility for future upgrades... ::)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Sep 27, 2007 at 01:06 PM
IMHO, I won't go this FAR for a receiver, You can get separates with almost same amount but has more flexibility for future upgrades... ::)

I concur with you...  ;D ;D ;D... pero kung manalo ako sa lotto, why not...  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kane on Sep 27, 2007 at 06:22 PM
IMHO, I won't go this FAR for a receiver, You can get separates with almost same amount but has more flexibility for future upgrades... ::)

tama mga bro, seps is the way to go.  But if money is no object, di sige.  Then get tons of power amps.    ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Mo®pHeOu$ on Sep 28, 2007 at 08:37 AM
yamaha has a new flagship receiver. RX-Z11.  Its 11.2, will be available by november. I think its around $5000. Lupit!!

WOW!!!!  :o :o :o  $5000!!! 

That's too much for me!   ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: rodel5 on Sep 29, 2007 at 09:35 AM
mga sir ask lang.bkit nag sha shutdown yamaha avr ko,pero on ko lang ok na naman.nakalagay speaker line ata or wire.tnx
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kingkydoo on Oct 09, 2007 at 07:14 AM
mga sir ask lang.bkit nag sha shutdown yamaha avr ko,pero on ko lang ok na naman.nakalagay speaker line ata or wire.tnx

Sir, anong nangyari sa AVR niyo?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kane on Oct 10, 2007 at 08:38 AM
sa mga naka yamaha receivers, ano po setting nyo for LFE,  is it just the sub, fronts, or both?  Ano din yung cross over settings.  thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ericag_ph on Oct 10, 2007 at 09:33 AM
I use LFE=sub only.  Sub is already too powerful, so no need for "both".  Both means LFE will go to fronts and the sub.
I set fronts (L+R+C) to "small" If I set LFE=sub.
Set fronts to "Large", if setting LFE=both or fronts
Receiver:  RXV-2095
Sub = Velodyne CHT12r

If you set to LFE=fronts only, then no LFE will go to your sub.  Do this only if you don't have a sub.


sa mga naka yamaha receivers, ano po setting nyo for LFE,  is it just the sub, fronts, or both?  Ano din yung cross over settings.  thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Oct 10, 2007 at 12:42 PM
sa mga naka yamaha receivers, ano po setting nyo for LFE,  is it just the sub, fronts, or both?  Ano din yung cross over settings.  thanks!

LFE -- subwoofer only
x-over -- 60 hz, all speakers set to "small".
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kane on Oct 10, 2007 at 03:31 PM
thanks guys!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Kobe Bryant on Oct 15, 2007 at 09:55 PM
kmusta ang performance and price ng RV1800 vs sa mga new onkyo's 705 and 805?

thanks po
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: scaglietti on Nov 18, 2007 at 09:55 PM
sir, sa yamaha receivers na may speaker a/b terminals,  possible ba na different configurations per speakers?  like yung speaker a is set to large, lfe=fronts, speaker b set to small and lfe=sub.  may nakapag try na ba?  thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: trackers888 on Dec 06, 2007 at 04:35 PM
kmusta ang performance and price ng RV1800 vs sa mga new onkyo's 705 and 805?

thanks po

Up ko lang ang tanung mga Sir, may naka RXV1800 na ba dito?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: lgas on Dec 08, 2007 at 07:52 PM
gud day to all, just want to ask opinion about my yamaha rxv457, set with wharfedale diamond 9.5, studio acoustic center, and audiophile surround, with custom sub....i love listening music most of the time, and i've encounter sometimes when im listening, the sound just slow down, then i try to touch my amp, and its hot..i was thinkin that maybe it just slowing down everytime when its getting hot..the 2nd thing is, im not using a voltage regulator, so mybe the voltage went down, coz our house is next to a water supplier which had three 3 submersible motor...so please, i need an advise....should i buy a voltage regulator? is these one of the yamaha's feature, slowing down when its hot to prevent damage?....

thnx very much..


genus t. salas from cebu



by the way, in one outlet with 3 plug sockets, is where i plug my sub, my dvd, and my amp

my sub is customise, two 150 watts in individual buffles with sub circuits, using an integrated amplifier yamaha 85 watts rms to drive my sub speakers.....its where my yamaha av recievers sub out is connected...advise please guys........
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Reymer on Dec 13, 2007 at 03:13 PM
gud day to all, just want to ask opinion about my yamaha rxv457, set with wharfedale diamond 9.5, studio acoustic center, and audiophile surround, with custom sub....i love listening music most of the time, and i've encounter sometimes when im listening, the sound just slow down, then i try to touch my amp, and its hot..i was thinkin that maybe it just slowing down everytime when its getting hot..the 2nd thing is, im not using a voltage regulator, so mybe the voltage went down, coz our house is next to a water supplier which had three 3 submersible motor...so please, i need an advise....should i buy a voltage regulator? is these one of the yamaha's feature, slowing down when its hot to prevent damage?....

thnx very much..


genus t. salas from cebu



by the way, in one outlet with 3 plug sockets, is where i plug my sub, my dvd, and my amp

my sub is customise, two 150 watts in individual buffles with sub circuits, using an integrated amplifier yamaha 85 watts rms to drive my sub speakers.....its where my yamaha av recievers sub out is connected...advise please guys........

The 457 is a lower model, maybe its having a hard time driving your Diamond 9.5 and other Speakers, specially at high volume. Pls check your speakers' impedance, shouldnt be lower than 6ohms. Also, provide proper ventilation to prevent heat build-up. Try to use exhaust fans and see if the problem recurs.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Dec 31, 2007 at 07:27 PM
Up ko lang ang tanung mga Sir, may naka RXV1800 na ba dito?

wala pa siguro. walang sumasagot. mahal ksi eh. hehehe...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Reymer on Jan 03, 2008 at 12:47 AM
wala pa siguro. walang sumasagot. mahal ksi eh. hehehe...

Masyadong mahal dito sa atin, 69k  >:(.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 03, 2008 at 10:56 AM
The 457 is a lower model, maybe its having a hard time driving your Diamond 9.5 and other Speakers, specially at high volume. Pls check your speakers' impedance, shouldnt be lower than 6ohms. Also, provide proper ventilation to prevent heat build-up. Try to use exhaust fans and see if the problem recurs.

I agree. Also, impedance ratings arent always totally accurate. Speakers may ( & usually) dip down to 4 ohms or lower and that causes stress to the receiver cuz more current is needed. With the limited budget receiver engineers have, lower model receivers are naturally compromised on parts & are not built for low impedance loads, thats why they heat up like that.

For reference, THX select class receivers are torture tested at 4 ohms and the pricey THX ultra receivers are torture tested at 3.2 ohms before they pass their certification. For power amps, no problem at all since they have space for heat sinks & have beefier power supplies.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: defjam on Jan 03, 2008 at 12:18 PM
sir ano po ba ang ok na receiver for dvd and ps3?ung entry level lang po na 5.1 na.kasi planning to set up palang e.and san ba ok bumili na mura?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Marl☆1 on Jan 04, 2008 at 09:03 AM
Well, might as well post this on the Yamaha AVR thread - the Yamaha RZ-z11  11.2ch just bagged the top flagship receiver inthe Audioholics 2007 Product of the Year Awards.

Award: Flagship A/V Receiver
Yamaha RX-Z11 11.2CH A/V Receiver

(http://www.audioholics.com/buying-guides/product-awards-and-gift-guides/audioholics-2007-product-of-the-year-awards/Z11.JPG/image_mini)

Yamaha RX-Z11As if 7.1 channels weren’t enough, Yamaha stepped up to the plate with 11 all packed into one oversized chassis that will certainly have you breaking a sweat to install. The new RX-Z11 sports all of the latest processing features and connectivity including THX Ultra2 Plus, HDMI 1.3a, Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD decoding, deep color and 1080p 24fps. Yamaha completely revamped their YPAO system to include an 8 point calibration system to ensure every seat is a good seat in the theater room. Weighing in at over 70lbs and with 11 channels of high current amplification, the RX-Z11 certainly has enough brawn and brains to serve as the center piece of even the most sophisticated home theater installations. As a bonus to all of you Macintosh lovers, you can even operate the entire receiver off of your iPhone.

To see the other A/V items who cut the grade and received awards, click  HERE. (http://www.audioholics.com/buying-guides/product-awards-and-gift-guides/audioholics-2007-product-of-the-year-awards/)
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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 04, 2008 at 11:50 AM
baka 50% off na yung Z-9!  :D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: athos45 on Jan 05, 2008 at 03:19 AM
Happy New Year, guys. I need help. I''m planning to set up a HT. Can I still use my RX-V795a Amp, or is this model outdated already? If I do upgrade my reciever what's the best "money for value" Yamaha Amps out there na mas bago? And how much could i sell my Yamaha Amp if i plan to upgrade? Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Reymer on Jan 07, 2008 at 02:24 PM
Happy New Year, guys. I need help. I''m planning to set up a HT. Can I still use my RX-V795a Amp, or is this model outdated already? If I do upgrade my reciever what's the best "money for value" Yamaha Amps out there na mas bago? And how much could i sell my Yamaha Amp if i plan to upgrade? Thanks in advance.

For a 5.1 setup, you can still use your 795a. Of course, if budget permits, it will be better if you upgrade to a newer avr (better processors/features). IMO, you can try the RX-V861 or the lesser 661. Ive seen 995's being sold for 9-10k at the marketplace, maybe your 795a will be lower ???.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 07, 2008 at 03:14 PM
Nope, its not outdated yet. The new HD surround formats can be connected through your 5.1 analog inputs, even with no HDMI. Try power amping your setup as an upgrade. You will hear the  sonic differences of HD more with a well powered setup.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: athos45 on Jan 13, 2008 at 12:35 AM
thanks guys, will probably invest in newer speakers nalang
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: polgas on Feb 03, 2008 at 08:31 PM
For a 5.1 setup, you can still use your 795a. Of course, if budget permits, it will be better if you upgrade to a newer avr (better processors/features). IMO, you can try the RX-V861 or the lesser 661. Ive seen 995's being sold for 9-10k at the marketplace, maybe your 795a will be lower ???.

Sir, what's the going rate for the RX-V861?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Ctlim on Feb 03, 2008 at 10:43 PM
polgas same nick at manila tonigh politics forum? ;D

i believe its 48k? tama ba guys?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: polgas on Feb 03, 2008 at 10:55 PM
ctlim, hehe that's not me but I think I'm registered with a different name i just forgot what..  ???

Medyo mataas pala price range niya...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Ctlim on Feb 03, 2008 at 10:58 PM
yup thats usually the price range some even higher for amps that start with the high... 7. 8. 9... numbers...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gunblade977 on Feb 05, 2008 at 08:13 PM
question po sana... where can I get new-old stock yamaha avrs?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: macdon on Feb 05, 2008 at 09:25 PM
Bro - Yupangco daw may 70% off dun sa demo nilang AVR which you might consider. 24k nalang daw sya from 70k plus ata.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: otepsy on Feb 06, 2008 at 10:16 AM
sir ask ko lang how much ba brand new ng rxv550?

may nagbebenta kasi sakin 12k package with Black(Wharf Modus 2) sa tingin ok na kaya yun?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: pchin on Feb 06, 2008 at 11:10 AM
Try power amping your setup as an upgrade. You will hear the  sonic differences of HD more with a well powered setup.

Great advice by Matt. I took this step recently & never look back! :D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Feb 06, 2008 at 01:14 PM
Bro - Yupangco daw may 70% off dun sa demo nilang AVR which you might consider. 24k nalang daw sya from 70k plus ata.

From 70k naging 24k? baka naman pro logic lang yan (no DTS)!  ;D

Anyway, you can also get NOS Yamaha's from Listening in Style, the official distro, tawad tawad na lang. They may give you a lower price if you pay cash.

Great advice by Matt. I took this step recently & never look back! :D

Always glad to be of help & to share my experience with others!  :)

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: otepsy on Feb 06, 2008 at 01:31 PM
sir ask ko lang how much ba brand new ng rxv550?

may nagbebenta kasi sakin 12k package with Black(Wharf Modus 2) sa tingin ok na kaya yun?


up ko lang po mga sirs

Thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Julia on Feb 06, 2008 at 01:59 PM
Hi otepsy,  RXV550 could be around 3 to 5 years old model.  Correct me if I am wrong.   

You may opt to get my Yamaha RXV457 which is more than 1 year old pa lang.  Same price as you mentioned 12K.

Here's the specs.

Full-function, high-power 6.1-channel receiver with special features like Quad-Field CINEMA DSP and Night Listening Enhancer.

6-channel 750W powerful surround sound (125W x 6 Max)
Digital ToP-ART and High Current Amplification
Night Listening Enhancer (Cinema/Music) and SILENT CINEMAe
Dolby Digital EX, DTS-ES, Dolby Pro Logic IIx and DTS 96/24 compatibility
Direct Stereo for high quality two-channel sound reproduction
Quad-Field CINEMA DSP and 14 surround programs
192kHz/24-bit DACs for all channels
Selectable 9-band subwoofer crossover / Subwoofer phase select
Audio Delay for adjusting lip-sync(0-160ms)
2 component video inputs and 3 digital inputs
Preset remote unit
3 S-Video inputs
Speaker A, B or A+B Selection(via remote unit)

Here is the link to Yamaha site:

http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/products/ht/rxv457.html

You may contact me at 0918-9075851 if interested.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: otepsy on Feb 06, 2008 at 02:06 PM
Hi otepsy,  RXV550 could be around 3 to 5 years old model.  Correct me if I am wrong.   

You may opt to get my Yamaha RXV457 which is more than 1 year old pa lang.  Same price as you mentioned 12K.

Here's the specs.

Full-function, high-power 6.1-channel receiver with special features like Quad-Field CINEMA DSP and Night Listening Enhancer.

6-channel 750W powerful surround sound (125W x 6 Max)
Digital ToP-ART and High Current Amplification
Night Listening Enhancer (Cinema/Music) and SILENT CINEMAe
Dolby Digital EX, DTS-ES, Dolby Pro Logic IIx and DTS 96/24 compatibility
Direct Stereo for high quality two-channel sound reproduction
Quad-Field CINEMA DSP and 14 surround programs
192kHz/24-bit DACs for all channels
Selectable 9-band subwoofer crossover / Subwoofer phase select
Audio Delay for adjusting lip-sync(0-160ms)
2 component video inputs and 3 digital inputs
Preset remote unit
3 S-Video inputs
Speaker A, B or A+B Selection(via remote unit)

Here is the link to Yamaha site:

http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/products/ht/rxv457.html

You may contact me at 0918-9075851 if interested.


What you mean is mas bagong model yang Yamaha RXV457 than RXV550? Tama ba?
i look at the specs mukhang mas marami features ng rxv550 at mas mataas ang wattage...
please enlighten me. thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Julia on Feb 06, 2008 at 02:47 PM
Hi otepsy,  What I mean is that the RXV550 last digit which is "0" means much older than the "7" (my RXV457).  The newer models now have the last digits ata at "9".  Correct me if my understanding is wrong.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: otepsy on Feb 06, 2008 at 02:52 PM
Hi Julia YGPM...

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: macdon on Feb 06, 2008 at 03:18 PM
From 70k naging 24k? baka naman pro logic lang yan (no DTS)!  ;D

The Model number is: RX V2095

Here's more info:
http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_6_1/yamaharxv2095receiver.html
http://www.avrev.com/equip/yamaha/index.html
http://home.pacific.net.hk/~indoftco/rxv2095.htm
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: reynold on Feb 06, 2008 at 04:57 PM
Bro - Yupangco daw may 70% off dun sa demo nilang AVR which you might consider. 24k nalang daw sya from 70k plus ata.

Hi bro macdon,

Saan yung Yupangco? Meron ba silang Yamaha DSP-A1? thanks :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: macdon on Feb 06, 2008 at 05:14 PM
Hi bro macdon,

Saan yung Yupangco? Meron ba silang Yamaha DSP-A1? thanks :)

Yan ata yung Flagship AVR ng Yamaha - althou, I could be wrong :P Mga 100k+ ata yan?
You may ask Dexter aka Kefq as he mentioned in one of our chats na nagkaroon ata sya ng isa before.

Yupangco building is in Buendia, Makati. Dunno exact address but easy to look up in the directory or call  pldt 187 to get their numbers from the operator.

good luck papi!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: praktikal on Feb 06, 2008 at 05:27 PM
tumawag ako kanina (www.yupangco.com) ang available lang daw na AVR RXV-2092 Prologic. pero dami pa Tannoy kaso kinda weird lang ang pricing net kase /pc kaya sa unang tingin, WOW ang mura naman!
 ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gunblade977 on Feb 06, 2008 at 05:30 PM
here's additional info on RXV2095 from yamaha's site

http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/products/ht/rxv2095.html (http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/products/ht/rxv2095.html)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: redram on Feb 15, 2008 at 02:50 PM
I have a yamaha rx-v350 connected to 4 wharfe 8.1 and 8.c, ok naman for my 15 sqm room.

I'm planning to move the set to a bigger room (25 sqm).

Would you advice me to use my wharfe 8.3 or 8.4 for fronts in lieu of 8.1?
( 8.3 and 8.4 are used in another house. )

Will my entry level amp be able to drive this effectively? overheat? or bad sonic?

Please comment before I re-arrange my house and just waste my time and energy.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: athos45 on Feb 16, 2008 at 08:19 PM
Nope, its not outdated yet. The new HD surround formats can be connected through your 5.1 analog inputs, even with no HDMI. Try power amping your setup as an upgrade. You will hear the  sonic differences of HD more with a well powered setup.
hi, i've been reading some of your posts and it was very informative(regarding the diff levels of AMP to Speaker match). Am torn between getting a HTIB Samsung HT-x250 and getting new speakers for my rx-795a. If i do get speakers for the Yammy, what would match my amp? Some say Wharfdale? What type?

any suggestions from others would be warmly welcomed, thank you. :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: blackd70s on Feb 16, 2008 at 08:57 PM

rxv 2095 came out i think last 1998-99. its the flagship receiver at that time along with dsp a1 which was the flagship amplifier.

im using the 2095 as my processor to the rotel 1075 and im very happy with it (though ive used it for 7 years as my mains driving an all paradigm set up)! ihmo magaling talaga sa dsp ang yamaha. so if you can still get those for 30k or less grab it na!

cheers! :D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Ctlim on Feb 16, 2008 at 09:55 PM
actually kefq still has his yamaha DSP A1.. saw it the other day... muntik ko na nga iuwi e... hehehehe

id stay away from the 357 and 457 series...and get something more powerful... opinion lang po.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: reynold on Feb 18, 2008 at 11:23 AM
actually kefq still has his yamaha DSP A1.. saw it the other day... muntik ko na nga iuwi e... hehehehe

id stay away from the 357 and 457 series...and get something more powerful... opinion lang po.

Naku dumadami na pala tayong nagkaka-interest sa DSP-A1 ni dexter ha, hehehe ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Feb 18, 2008 at 01:49 PM
hi, i've been reading some of your posts and it was very informative(regarding the diff levels of AMP to Speaker match). Am torn between getting a HTIB Samsung HT-x250 and getting new speakers for my rx-795a. If i do get speakers for the Yammy, what would match my amp? Some say Wharfdale? What type?

any suggestions from others would be warmly welcomed, thank you. :)

I would go for new speakers for your Yamaha instead of HtIB. As long as there are 5.1 analog inputs your reciever will not be outdated.

If you are on a budget, go for Wharfes, but also try entry level Monitor audio, Q acoustics, Paradigm, etc.

I have a yamaha rx-v350 connected to 4 wharfe 8.1 and 8.c, ok naman for my 15 sqm room.

I'm planning to move the set to a bigger room (25 sqm).

Would you advice me to use my wharfe 8.3 or 8.4 for fronts in lieu of 8.1?
( 8.3 and 8.4 are used in another house. )


Just get a more powerful ampli/receiver for your bigger room.

Again let me share my discovery that the more powerful your amp is, the more it fills the room. Its not just the size of your speaker or how many woofers it has.

I have heard surround size speakers fill up a big showroom with sound when powered by a powerful receiver. I recently power amped my tiny satellite speakers and to my surprise, it filled up my whole room, as compared to an entry level receiver before.

Custom installed HT's in the US mags use bookshelf size speakers but all use powerful $1000-4000 receivers or power amps.

Your room boundaries aid in reinforcing the sound of your speakers. With a bigger room and farther boundaries, reinforcement is less, you therefore need more power. more power=more money involved.

If you are on a budget, I suggest you stay in your older 15sqm room. If you arent going to play your HT loud (I doubt)  in your bigger room, then dont change anything. If you arent sensitive to distortion, you may not need to change anything.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: athos45 on Feb 18, 2008 at 05:56 PM
I would go for new speakers for your Yamaha instead of HtIB. As long as there are 5.1 analog inputs your reciever will not be outdated.

If you are on a budget, go for Wharfes, but also try entry level Monitor audio, Q acoustics, Paradigm, etc.


any specific model of wharfdales? mostly for DVD and gaming, very seldom for audio. salamat muli
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on Feb 18, 2008 at 06:16 PM
go for the 9.1's and center.  Like I always say, pour your budget to a good subwoofer instead of a floorstander, cuz you are gona set em to small setting in your receiver anyway.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: toybeats on Feb 18, 2008 at 06:19 PM
is this a good buy mga paps?

http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/214060/Home+theater%2C+receiver%2C+amplifier%2C+speakers%2C+yamaha+6.1+channel (http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/214060/Home+theater%2C+receiver%2C+amplifier%2C+speakers%2C+yamaha+6.1+channel)

Quote
YAMAHA RX-V630 6.1; SPEAKERS2 Pcs Front Speaker Floor Stander (YAMAHA)Model# NS-7390; 1 PC Center Speaker (YAMAHA)Model # NS-C55; 2 Pcs Surround Speaker (YAMAHA)Model # NS-E55

yamaha hts, although the avr is a 4-5 year old model, oks pa din kaya?

planning to buy kasi an hts, i'm opting for a 2nd hand para mas mura or an htib system. around 25k lang kasi budget ko as of now :( kung oks sa inyo paps, kunin ko na ito, hopefully available pa
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: athos45 on Feb 18, 2008 at 10:23 PM
^wala pang subs yan ser
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: golti on Feb 19, 2008 at 09:50 PM
are there any yamaha 6xx comin up that will have HDMI 1.3?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mike c on Feb 20, 2008 at 03:30 PM
are there any yamaha 6xx comin up that will have HDMI 1.3?

yamaha rx-v 663 and 863

not surprising na kalalabas lang ng 661 dito, sa US may 663 na. 

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/productdetail.html?CNTID=567571&CTID=5000300&ATRID=1020&DETYP=ATTRIBUTE&VNM=WORKING
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: threadlock on Feb 20, 2008 at 04:25 PM
From the specs, RX-V663 could be a very good rival to mid-level HDMI 1.3 receivers from Onkyo and Denon. Can decode Dolby True HD, DTS Master Audio, pre-outs for all channels, Audyssey-like YPAO calibration, Burr brown DACs, some other useful features and a bonus of 2 subwoofer pre-outs.

More info and comparison with current RX-V 661:
http://www.yamaha.com/yec/compare/Detail.html?compitem1=&compitem2=567571&compitem3=547398&CTID=5000200&VNM=WORKING&comp_items=567571&comp_items=547398&B_compare.x=24&B_compare.y=8 (http://www.yamaha.com/yec/compare/Detail.html?compitem1=&compitem2=567571&compitem3=547398&CTID=5000200&VNM=WORKING&comp_items=567571&comp_items=547398&B_compare.x=24&B_compare.y=8)

Anyone knows when it will be released locally and corresponding price?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: golti on Feb 20, 2008 at 11:11 PM
does it say in the specs whether the HDMI connections are switching/repeating? sorry can't seem to find it
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mjct6210 on Feb 28, 2008 at 10:44 AM
ugh... lalo na naman ako naguluhan kung anong receiver kukunin q. check this out:

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/avreceivers/rxv_rxz.html?CTID=5000300

lumabas na pala ang 63 series (863/663/563)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ericag_ph on Feb 28, 2008 at 12:23 PM
I'd get the one that I would think I won't need to change or upgrade for at least 10 or more years

ugh... lalo na naman ako naguluhan kung anong receiver kukunin q. check this out:

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/avreceivers/rxv_rxz.html?CTID=5000300

lumabas na pala ang 63 series (863/663/563)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gillian_r on Mar 04, 2008 at 05:24 PM
Yamaha folks, please advise.  If I'm looking for V_57 or V_59 series receivers...which shop would you recommend?   I'm not really particular with latest hdmi ports.  Just want to get decent 5.1/7.1 setup.

thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dinz23 on Apr 22, 2008 at 08:03 AM
Mga sir inquire lang ako kung sa tingin nyo magkano resale ng Yamaha RX-V800? thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: reynold on Apr 22, 2008 at 04:41 PM
Mga sir inquire lang ako kung sa tingin nyo magkano resale ng Yamaha RX-V800? thanks


I remember someone is selling his rxv-800 at 10 to 12K before the market place was shutdown last year.

Its a nice receiver bro ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dinz23 on Apr 22, 2008 at 06:28 PM
I remember someone is selling his rxv-800 at 10 to 12K before the market place was shutdown last year.

Its a nice receiver bro ;)

Thanks for the info sir reynold.. 8).
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: praktikal on Apr 22, 2008 at 06:42 PM
Thanks for the info sir reynold.. 8).

selling it? how much? tnx
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: praktikal on Apr 22, 2008 at 07:28 PM
PM sent
tnx
 ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: praktikal on Apr 22, 2008 at 08:00 PM
just in case here's my cel#

09203031232

tnx
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dinz23 on Apr 22, 2008 at 08:17 PM
just in case here's my cel#

09203031232

tnx

pm sent na po.. tnx
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: reynold on Apr 23, 2008 at 11:42 AM
Haha, sabi ko sa'yo ok na receiver yan e, kita mo dami agad nagka-interest, hehe ;D

Congrats sa makakabili ha :)


teka, how much ba, pa-pm din ako :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dinz23 on Apr 23, 2008 at 06:43 PM
Haha, sabi ko sa'yo ok na receiver yan e, kita mo dami agad nagka-interest, hehe ;D

Congrats sa makakabili ha :)


teka, how much ba, pa-pm din ako :)

pm sent  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: comet on Apr 28, 2008 at 02:07 PM
Mga sirs,

Has anyone tried using Presence speaker channels for the dialogue lift? 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: pchin on Apr 28, 2008 at 03:33 PM
Mga sirs, Has anyone tried using Presence speaker channels for the dialogue lift? 

I'm curious too. :) In my setup I choose surround back over the presence.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: comet on Apr 28, 2008 at 08:26 PM
Ganun din ako sir, I chose the surround back over the presence channels. Wala ksi akong shelves beside the screen to try them. To those who have tried this, pashare na lang po ng experience.   ;D...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dinz23 on Apr 28, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Hello everyone... I need help ??? regarding my Yamaha AVR RX-V1200 (anyone still using this model??)

Recently po kasi, I noticed that the monitor blinked... It's like this, when i put the volume up to -20 or louder, it starts to blink... I just saw the blinking when I stared at the LCD of the AVR pero the blink was only once or twice... Is this thing normal? :( I used to own kasi RXV800 and I never encounter that kind of problem... What seems to be the problem? Anyone... Help pls... ??? ??? ??? Thanks!

BTW, I paired my RX-V1200 with a B&W 601 s2 as front, CC600 s2 for center, Wharfs 8 Dipole and US Audio as my subs. Bka kasi it has something to do with the speakers also. :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: pchin on Apr 29, 2008 at 07:15 AM
Owners of RX-V1700 & HTR-6090:

There's an available FIRMWARE UPDATE.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: reynold on Apr 29, 2008 at 11:53 AM
Hello everyone... I need help ??? regarding my Yamaha AVR RX-V1200 (anyone still using this model??)

Recently po kasi, I noticed that the monitor blinked... It's like this, when i put the volume up to -20 or louder, it starts to blink... I just saw the blinking when I stared at the LCD of the AVR pero the blink was only once or twice... Is this thing normal? :( I used to own kasi RXV800 and I never encounter that kind of problem... What seems to be the problem? Anyone... Help pls... ??? ??? ??? Thanks!

BTW, I paired my RX-V1200 with a B&W 601 s2 as front, CC600 s2 for center, Wharfs 8 Dipole and US Audio as my subs. Bka kasi it has something to do with the speakers also. :)

Baka may kailangan lang i-solder uli sa back Panel ng lcd ng avr mo bro, have it check by a reliable technician...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dinz23 on Apr 29, 2008 at 10:42 PM
thanks sir rey.. will do that  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: darkwing on Apr 30, 2008 at 12:43 AM
guys what do you think of the FX-V663?

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/productdetail.html?CNTID=567571

parang ok rin ah, deciding this and the Onkyo 605  ??? ???
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: flak-jacket on Apr 30, 2008 at 12:55 AM
guys what do you think of the FX-V663?

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/productdetail.html?CNTID=567571

parang ok rin ah, deciding this and the Onkyo 605  ??? ???

inquired about this particular yamaha model.. hindi pa daw availabe sa LIS shang.  :(
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: leomar on Apr 30, 2008 at 12:15 PM
yamaha rxv-863 is S$1299 in Singapore  ;D
rxv-1800 is 1799...

which one is better as pre-pro?  ???
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: threadlock on May 02, 2008 at 12:44 PM
yamaha rxv-863 is S$1299 in Singapore  ;D
rxv-1800 is 1799...

which one is better as pre-pro?  ???

I'd vote for rx-v1800. Featurewise there is very little difference between the two but the 11lbs. weight difference will leave you asking why is that so. hint: better internals, amp and pre-amp section :D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: reynold on May 02, 2008 at 02:12 PM
I'd vote for rx-v1800. Featurewise there is very little difference between the two but the 11lbs. weight difference will leave you asking why is that so. hint: better internals, amp and pre-amp section :D

Agree ;D

Go for the mid-level receivers, Power first before features :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: pchin on May 02, 2008 at 05:07 PM
Since leomar intends to use the receiver as pre-pro then the "power" issue lies on the power amplifier not on the receiver...even the RX-V863 has great features & should suffice.  ;D

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: leomar on May 02, 2008 at 06:26 PM
@pchin

yep, power will be on the poweramp... ok, so i think i have an idea what to buy =)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: MAtZTER on May 03, 2008 at 12:34 PM
If its w/in your budget, go for the higher model. With better parts & decoders, it will surely have better performance as pre/pro.

Look at the chips they use, if the same, go for the lower model. If different, get the higher model (if w/in your budget).
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: pilyo168 on May 20, 2008 at 02:43 AM
guys try ninyo itong low impedance subwoofer amplifier para sa rca sub output ng Yamaha receiver ninyo.

copy paste link.

http://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=734004
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: spiro0426 on May 26, 2008 at 09:30 AM
I bought this Yamaha 5.1 HT (im not so sure with model, but as i recall NSP/ NST) just last year from a fellow member. Recently, something happened with the AVR when i planned to transfer it to another location. I left it to a place kung saan accidentally natapunan ng "slurpee" ng pinsan ko. The slurpee solidify after a day.

Havent tried setting it up for something wrong might happen. Im attaching a pic here to ask you guys kung magkakaroon ba ng bad effect ang portion kung saan tumulo ung liquid? Will there be any electrical defect on the unit kapag inoperate ko ulit?

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b327/spiro0426/DSC_2469.jpg)



(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b327/spiro0426/DSC_2467.jpg)

Thanks in advance.

 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Reymer on May 26, 2008 at 03:31 PM
You can clean that portion with a small brush and denatured alcohol, or you can use contact cleaner. Kailangan matunaw ung naiwang slurpee at matanggal mo lahat. Put something, maybe cloth or tissue paper under the PCB para hindi tumulo sa iba pang parts. Just make sure that everything is thoroughly dry before you use the unit. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: spiro0426 on May 26, 2008 at 04:30 PM
thanks reymer, that part can also be removed. safe kaya na tanggalin ko na lang then clean it outside.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Reymer on May 26, 2008 at 05:05 PM
thanks reymer, that part can also be removed. safe kaya na tanggalin ko na lang then clean it outside.

Much better if you can do that
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ricochet315 on Jun 26, 2008 at 08:45 AM
Up ko lang ang tanung mga Sir, may naka RXV1800 na ba dito?

I have a Yamy RX-V1800 driving a 7.1 Boston Accoustics Horizon Series and a 12 inch Klipsch sub.  I would say that this Yamy amp is worth every penny I invested on it.  Its sound is crisp and clear on both Dolby Digital and DTS.  On Pure Audio setting, the sound is accoustically balanced from highs to the lows with the BA 450 towers.  It also upgrades superbly, up to 1080p, video inputs through component from my old DVD player to my Pioneer 428XG plasma. Mostly for audio, I use my Cambridge Audio DVD99 player through HDMI 1.3 cable.  The output is breathtaking.  I haven't tried Dolby TrueHD and DTSHD as I still don't have a BlueRay disc player

Note though that I all bought all of these abroad.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ESi on Jun 26, 2008 at 09:20 AM
I have a Yamy RX-V1800 ... Note though that I all bought all of these abroad.

Sir,

How much did the RXV-1800 cost? Im considering this amp also together with its DENON counterparts. Thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ricochet315 on Jun 27, 2008 at 12:51 AM
Around USD1,300
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: don on Jul 09, 2008 at 09:59 PM
Guys saan ang service center ng Yamaha? Something is wrong with my rxv-1200 nag off palagi... anybody experiencing the same thing? TIA :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Jul 09, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Audio World Tech is the authorized service center: http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=31712.0

First, check your speaker wires for short-circuits. 

If no shorts are apparent, try Yamaha's FAQ:


1. Disconnect all of the speaker wires from the back of the receiver.

2. Turn the receiver on, and turn the volume control up to about half way. If the receiver stays on, please go to Step 3. If the receiver shuts off right away, the unit will require service. Please consult with your dealer for further assistance.

3. Carefully inspect all of the speaker wiring and the connections at the back of each speaker. Remove and reconnect the wiring at the back of each speaker if necessary.

4. Re-connect the main speakers only, and test the system. If operation appears normal, turn the power off and re-connect the surround speakers. If it shuts down prematurely, you should have your main speaker system checked.

5. Test the system after the surround speakers have been re-connected. If operation appears normal, turn off the power and re-connect the center speaker. If it shuts down prematurely, you should have your surround speakers checked.

6. Test the system after the center channel speaker has been re-connected. If operation is normal, you have located and fixed the over-current condition. If the receiver shuts off prematurely, you should have the center channel speaker checked.

Other problems which might cause premature shut off can include using speakers with impedance of less than 4 ohms, speaker selector boxes with multiple pairs of speakers connected to one terminal, an internal problem with the receiver, or a problem with a source component.


http://www.yamaha.com/yec/faq/faqdetail.html?CNTID=206106&CTID=5009150

   
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: don on Jul 10, 2008 at 12:37 AM
thanks for the quick response barrister :) will go to audioworld.

i have removed all the speakers, but still it shuts off after a few seconds... i just watched a movie last night and everything was ok til now... sigh... the old amp wants to retire hehehe SARS attack to.  :P
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fnvillafuerte on Jul 10, 2008 at 08:58 PM
.........i have removed all the speakers, but still it shuts off after a few seconds... ...............

This also happened to my previous Yamaha 550 some years back.  During my inspection, I discovered the cause of shutting down of the unit.  It was due to "rat urine" that dripped near the center of the main board. The residue caused minute shorts in the mainboard causing erratic activation of the unit's protection circuit. Since the unit at that time has no warranty anymore, I opened it and cleaned the residual urine by pouring lighter fluid on the board.  Then I dried it and sprayed the board with electical contact cleaner.  I finalyzed the drying by using hair dyer set to high. Since then the 550 never shutdown anymore until the time I upgraded to 1400.

'Hope this helps...   :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: milken on Jul 11, 2008 at 09:45 AM
I'm looking for Yamaha RX-V663 http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/productdetail.html?CNTID=567571&CTID=5000300 (http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/productdetail.html?CNTID=567571&CTID=5000300) to match my Wharfedale speakers.  It's a good entry level receiver with pre-outs already and can decode the latest HD audio formats.

Would anyone know which local store is carrying Yamaha receivers?  Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Jul 11, 2008 at 11:43 AM
I recommend SPECTRA AUDIO VIDEO CENTER, 17 Parksquare 1 Ayala Center Makati 8185493: http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=27124.0

Spectra is a great place to audition.  Service is very good.


Also try Audio World Tech: http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=31712.0 - Sales and authorized service center.

Or Ambassador Appliances, Parksquare 1 Ayala Center Makati, or Greenhills V-Mall 3rd floor.  Good prices, but no auditions.

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: milken on Jul 11, 2008 at 04:06 PM
Thanks sir barrister!

I called these shops but unfortunately, V663 is not yet locally available. It's a strong contender of Onkyo 605/606 in other countries. Sayang...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: don on Jul 12, 2008 at 05:43 PM
fn, thanks for the info bro. will take note... what's good about amplifiers breaking down after years of service is it gives you a scapegoat to upgrade hehehe lolz... hindi tayo mahihirapan sa WAF .  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: busabos on Jul 13, 2008 at 12:39 AM
I just bought a new dvd yesterday.  It didn't work when I tried it with my yamaha avr using optical.  I tried a different optical port in my avr and it still doesnt work.  Now Im not sure if the problem is with my avr or dvd.  I just noticed that there's a light on the other end of the cable while connected in the dvd player, however it foesn't have on when connected in the avr.  Is that normal? would you really not see the cable lit when plugged in the avr?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: busabos on Jul 13, 2008 at 10:28 AM
can I still use optical connection if my dvd is connected to the tv through hdmi? Mine doesn't work and the sound comes out of the tv speakers.  It works through coax connection thou
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kulimo on Jul 18, 2008 at 09:22 PM
can I still use optical connection if my dvd is connected to the tv through hdmi? Mine doesn't work and the sound comes out of the tv speakers.  It works through coax connection thou

Palagay ko there is a setting somewhere na pwede mo ma-disable ang audio ng HDMI out (to your TV).  Make sure you have selected the right audio input corresponding to where your  toslink is connected (from your AVR).
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jetstar on Jul 22, 2008 at 01:37 AM
What's the difference between the HTR series and RX-V series of Yamaha receivers? I'm planning to get an HTR-6180 which is only $699.00 while the RX-V863 cost $899.00. I was checking the specs and both are the same.  ???
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: blued888 on Jul 22, 2008 at 01:41 AM
What's the difference between the HTR series and RX-V series of Yamaha receivers? I'm planning to get an HTR-6180 which is only $699.00 while the RX-V863 cost $899.00. I was checking the specs and both are the same.  ???

As far as I know meron equivalent na RX-V model and HTR model. I'm not sure if 1:1 ang ratio nila. It's possible that some of the models don't have equivalents sa other line.

EDIT: Try googling RX-V863 HTR-6180, you'll see people saying that they are essentially the same product.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: vtec3 on Jul 22, 2008 at 03:53 PM
I have two Yamaha amp, 1 HTR series and 1 RXV series, yung HTR series when playing audio (bad) with the RXV series (medyo ok na). Don't know lang if it is because my RXV series is newer than my old HTR receiver. Also probably they make HTR to cater for HT use din. HTR - Home Theater Receiver  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ASuL on Jul 25, 2008 at 05:22 PM
rxv 661 sells for 29.5k...yung 659 po hdmi 1.3a version na rin?


how much did a bnew 659 go for? magkano kaya 2nd hand nito...sir vtec3? ::)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Reymer on Jul 26, 2008 at 01:09 PM
rxv 661 sells for 29.5k...yung 659 po hdmi 1.3a version na rin?


how much did a bnew 659 go for? magkano kaya 2nd hand nito...sir vtec3? ::)

659 is not yet hdmi. Bnew 659 was around 27t, 2nd hand maybe 17-20t
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: vtec3 on Jul 27, 2008 at 05:36 PM
rxv 661 sells for 29.5k...yung 659 po hdmi 1.3a version na rin?


how much did a bnew 659 go for? magkano kaya 2nd hand nito...sir vtec3? ::)

yup 659 no HDMI but has video upconvesrion via component (read it somewhere but did not actually check). don't know how much a second hand 659 cost, mine is just inside the box after i upgraded to a 705  ;D planning to sell it but really have no idea how much i will be willing to let it go. parang bago pa talaga kasi. mga bought June last year and used only kapag weekends (mga twice a month lang)  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ASuL on Jul 28, 2008 at 10:24 AM
sir vtec3 medyo OT pero how much is the 705 (onkyo) and why did you upgrade to this model?

what are your speakers? for HT or audio po ba ang priority?

another OT...HCP ka rin sir vtec3
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: vtec3 on Jul 28, 2008 at 12:17 PM
I still find the Yamaha 659 a very good HT Receiver  ;) sent you a PM  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: blued888 on Jul 28, 2008 at 10:06 PM
May temporary ETA and pricing na ba ang 663 sa mga dealers dito?

EDIT: Just called up Audioworld and was told that the 63 series will be coming this August, no word on pricing though. They still have the RX-V661 for 29.5k cash price.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ASuL on Jul 29, 2008 at 12:37 PM
this should bring down the 661 to more affordable levels...

what is the main difference between the 661 and 663? anyone...thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: blued888 on Jul 29, 2008 at 12:45 PM
this should bring down the 661 to more affordable levels...

what is the main difference between the 661 and 663? anyone...thanks!

663 is lossless audio capable.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: vtec3 on Jul 29, 2008 at 03:49 PM
this should bring down the 661 to more affordable levels...

what is the main difference between the 661 and 663? anyone...thanks!

hopefully  ;) problem is they might price the 663 higher pa than 661 then the price of the 661 will probably remain the same  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: blued888 on Jul 29, 2008 at 06:44 PM
They might put a premium on the 663 because of its lossless capabilities.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ASuL on Jul 30, 2008 at 11:38 AM
what does a lossless capability do ba? sorry po...i just assuming it gives better sound reproduction
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: vtec3 on Jul 30, 2008 at 12:01 PM
from what i understand it produce the same sound as how it was recorded in the studios. yung iba kasi is lossy lang it is some how compressed because of the limitation in the size capacity of the media (DVDs)  :)

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: milken on Jul 30, 2008 at 01:00 PM
this should bring down the 661 to more affordable levels...

what is the main difference between the 661 and 663? anyone...thanks!

Yamaha 663 decodes the latest lossless audio formats such as TrueHD, DTS-HD, DTS-MA, etc. while 661 does not  They are the audio formats used in Bluray movies.  Lossless offers better sound and cinematic experience as compared to compressed AC3 (aka Dolby Digital) and DTS sounds.  A good analogy is CD and mp3.  CD sound is lossless [as well as FLAC, if you are aware of it) while mp3 is lossy (there are loss in audio quality).  A receiver that decodes lossless format is nice to have for future proofing.  Although at present, only a few bluray player can transmit lossless sounds via bitstream for the receiver to decode; so it's not an imperative feature to have especially if you don't plan to go HD anytime soon.

Yamaha 663 was a strong contender of Onkyo 605 (now 606) in other countries because they are entry level receivers capable to decoding lossless format.  The main strong point of Yamaha 663 over Onkyo 605/606 is the pre-outs.  At present, only Denon's mid-end 2808 receiver can decode lossless format.  The soon to arrive entry-to-mid level Denon 1909 can decode lossless format so the competition is going to be tough this year.

I guess the reason why the distributor here is not importing and selling 663 is because they still have to dispose their 661.  They are going to have a harder time disposing them come September when Denon 09 series and Onkyo 06 series receivers invade the Philippine market.  :D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ASuL on Jul 30, 2008 at 06:36 PM
thanks mikken...

will both the denon 1909 and yamaha 663 have pre-outs? onkyo 606 yata alang pre-out eh
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: blued888 on Jul 30, 2008 at 07:01 PM
thanks mikken...

will both the denon 1909 and yamaha 663 have pre-outs? onkyo 606 yata alang pre-out eh

663 has pre-outs.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: milken on Jul 31, 2008 at 01:02 PM
thanks mikken...

will both the denon 1909 and yamaha 663 have pre-outs? onkyo 606 yata alang pre-out eh

Only Yamaha RX-V663 has pre-outs.  It seems from my reading of the specs that Denon 1909 has no pre-outs.  Check their specs here:  http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/productdetail.html?CNTID=567571&CTID=5000300 (http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/productdetail.html?CNTID=567571&CTID=5000300), http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/4241.asp (http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/4241.asp)

Onkyo 606 doesn't have pre-outs too.

The Yamaha V663 has been available first quarter of this year in other countries.  It would be a cheaper alternative to the best-selling entry-level Onkyo 605/606 if decoding lossless audio format is the deciding factor.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ASuL on Jul 31, 2008 at 03:38 PM
if that is so...the pre-outs of the 663 would be a real plus. other brands provide pre-outs for the mid-end with prices starting over 35K. kaya oks din yamaha e...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: vtec3 on Jul 31, 2008 at 04:49 PM
mayron din iba brands that has pre-outs for less than 20k but for me I like Yamaha better  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ASuL on Aug 01, 2008 at 02:07 PM
oo nga meron ba?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: vtec3 on Aug 01, 2008 at 05:53 PM
yup mayron, sa 5th avenue may receiver less than 20k na may pre-outs, hindi nga lang Yamaha ang tatak  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: runjel on Aug 04, 2008 at 12:04 AM
what can you say about yamaha RX-V463BL??..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: leomar on Aug 12, 2008 at 10:35 AM
may VRS na ang yamaha... saka multiple positions na ang YPAO  ;D ;D ;D

lookie lookie:

http://www.newhivi.com/news_html/2008-8-9/_2469.htm (http://www.newhivi.com/news_html/2008-8-9/_2469.htm)

ang tanong, magkano kaya? hihihi
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: milken on Aug 12, 2008 at 06:11 PM
may VRS na ang yamaha... saka multiple positions na ang YPAO  ;D ;D ;D

lookie lookie:

http://www.newhivi.com/news_html/2008-8-9/_2469.htm (http://www.newhivi.com/news_html/2008-8-9/_2469.htm)

ang tanong, magkano kaya? hihihi

ayos ito ah. mukhang mahal. hehe  :D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: turismo1997 on Aug 16, 2008 at 08:42 AM
I'm currently eyeing a yamaha rxv-1800 here in NY for 792 + tax + shipping (JAC or LBC) total is around 40k in php. Any ideas how much it cost in good old Philippines?

This is to replace my current rxv-1500. You will find it soon for sale once I have this 1800.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Cybie on Aug 22, 2008 at 01:06 PM
Mga sir if i have a 30k budget what model should i get? Thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ASuL on Sep 01, 2008 at 05:44 PM
what would be the main difference of the 659 and 657...thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: praktikal on Sep 06, 2008 at 09:32 PM
what would be the main difference of the 659 and 657...thanks!

this could be a late reply if you're eyeing for the rxv659 on sale but to answer your question:

657:
- 95w x 7


659:
- 100w x 7
- iPod dock
- Compressed Music Enhancer
- Burr-Brown 192 kHz/24-Bit DACs for All Channels
- EISA Award Winner

 ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: praktikal on Sep 06, 2008 at 10:08 PM
guys,

Gene DellaSala of Audioholics.com, adviced Yamaha AVR owners to always select the "minimum 8 ohms" setting even for 4 ohms speakers. my question is, can i use a pair of 4 ohms or 6 ohms for my rear/surround while my mains are 8 ohms?

sa palagay ko, ok lang lalo na at sa likod lang naman kaya lang gusto kong makasiguro.  ;)

thanks
 ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: praktikal on Sep 08, 2008 at 01:16 PM
guys,

Gene DellaSala of Audioholics.com, adviced Yamaha AVR owners to always select the "minimum 8 ohms" setting even for 4 ohms speakers. my question is, can i use a pair of 4 ohms or 6 ohms for my rear/surround while my mains are 8 ohms?

sa palagay ko, ok lang lalo na at sa likod lang naman kaya lang gusto kong makasiguro.  ;)

thanks
 ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: blued888 on Sep 08, 2008 at 02:06 PM
May temporary ETA and pricing na ba ang 663 sa mga dealers dito?

EDIT: Just called up Audioworld and was told that the 63 series will be coming this August, no word on pricing though. They still have the RX-V661 for 29.5k cash price.

Pushed back to October ang tentative availability ng RX-V663 sa Audioworld. No word on pricing.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ASuL on Sep 08, 2008 at 04:02 PM
praktikal...thanks


were you the one who bought it? hehehe. i was actually a bit hesitant (657 and 659) because my house is still under contruction and wouldn't be able to use the avr in the next 6-8 months. i set a price for myself but i had to respect the floor price of the seller. you know how fast tech evolves and considering both are already 2 models old...parang di buo loob ko (fearing SARs attack)

sabi nga nila "kung hindi ukol di bubukol"...hehehe! if it were you, congrats! i think its still a great buy overall!

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ivannn on Sep 08, 2008 at 04:46 PM
do local stores carry the yamaha cdps and yamaha stereo amps? if yes, then which store/s in particular?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: praktikal on Sep 08, 2008 at 05:17 PM
praktikal...thanks


were you the one who bought it? hehehe. i was actually a bit hesitant (657 and 659) because my house is still under contruction and wouldn't be able to use the avr in the next 6-8 months. i set a price for myself but i had to respect the floor price of the seller. you know how fast tech evolves and considering both are already 2 models old...parang di buo loob ko (fearing SARs attack)

sabi nga nila "kung hindi ukol di bubukol"...hehehe! if it were you, congrats! i think its still a great buy overall!



the 659? yup! ok kausap ang seller.  ;D

bro, i tell you super fresh ang unit as if you just bought it from the shop.

wala mang True HD and HDMI but fine with me. anyways, direct ko naman ikabit ang DVDp sa PJ kung so no worries for HDMI connection.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ASuL on Sep 09, 2008 at 01:16 PM
yup, ok nga si von  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: praktikal on Sep 09, 2008 at 06:02 PM
follow-up question lang guys:

can i use a pair of 4 ohms or 6 ohms for my rear/surround while my mains are 8 ohms tapos naka set sa "minimum 8ohms"?

 ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ivannn on Sep 09, 2008 at 10:31 PM
@praktikal
im not an expert on this one pero try ko na lang din maka help. for me the answer is yes.

guys follow up ko lang yung question ko the other day regarding the yamaha cdps and stereo amps. thanks.

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Sep 09, 2008 at 10:48 PM
follow-up question lang guys:

can i use a pair of 4 ohms or 6 ohms for my rear/surround while my mains are 8 ohms tapos naka set sa "minimum 8ohms"?

For me, risky gumamit ng 4 Ohm speakers for 8 Ohm receiver.  Minimum 6 Ohm speakers for 8 Ohm receiver, puwede pa.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ivannn on Sep 09, 2008 at 11:01 PM
buti na lang pala may disclaimer yung post ko before tungkol sa post ni praktikal. newbie rin kasi ako eh. :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Sep 10, 2008 at 12:46 PM
 :D  Hindi rin naman ako expert, kaya meron din akong disclaimer na "for me" sa umpisa. 

The receiver's 4 Ohm setting is preferable when the receiver gets hot (not just warm) at high volume use.  As a safety precaution, the 4 Ohm setting on the receiver steps down the current to prevent overheating. 

The side-effect is that a reduction of the amp's current capability would reduce the dynamic range of the output.  This dynamic range limitation would be most noticeable in the bass output.  Medyo hihina ang bass.

Using the 8-ohm amp setting, well-built receivers such as Yamaha can still handle even 4 ohm speakers.  But the risk of overheating the amp is still there.  My personal view is that you should not take that risk.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: praktikal on Sep 10, 2008 at 02:17 PM
:D  Hindi rin naman ako expert, kaya meron din akong disclaimer na "for me" sa umpisa. 

The receiver's 4 Ohm setting is preferable when the receiver gets hot (not just warm) at high volume use.  As a safety precaution, the 4 Ohm setting on the receiver steps down the current to prevent overheating. 

The side-effect is that a reduction of the amp's current capability would reduce the dynamic range of the output.  This dynamic range limitation would be most noticeable in the bass output.  Medyo hihina ang bass.

Using the 8-ohm amp setting, well-built receivers such as Yamaha can still handle even 4 ohm speakers.  But the risk of overheating the amp is still there.  My personal view is that you should not take that risk.

ok, out na si 4-ohms. kung 6-ohms kaya, pwede na? balak ko lang naman ilagay sa surround back. thanks  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Sep 10, 2008 at 09:04 PM
Yes, ayos na ayos ang 6 Ohm speaker sa 8 Ohm receiver.  Yan naman talaga ang standard receiver-speaker pairing ngayon -- 8 Ohms for receiver, 6 ohms for all speakers: fronts, center and surrounds.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: praktikal on Sep 10, 2008 at 11:33 PM
thanks sir barrister.  ;)

so bale ang setup ko, 8-ohms sa main, center and surround then 6-ohms sa back surround.  :) ayos! at least pwede na ang wharfs.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: knefut on Sep 13, 2008 at 06:23 PM
has anyone tried the phono input of the RXV 659 sir?

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mikevg08 on Sep 13, 2008 at 09:53 PM
Yes, ayos na ayos ang 6 Ohm speaker sa 8 Ohm receiver.  Yan naman talaga ang standard receiver-speaker pairing ngayon -- 8 Ohms for receiver, 6 ohms for all speakers: fronts, center and surrounds.

sir pano po kung pareho 8ohms receiver and speakers ko papangit po ba tunog or masisira yung avr/speaker ko? salamat po =)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Sep 13, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Kung 8 Ohms ang speaker, e di lalong magaling, kasi match na match sa 8 Ohm receiver.   

Di ba?   ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mikevg08 on Sep 13, 2008 at 10:33 PM
Kung 8 Ohms ang speaker, e di lalong magaling, kasi match na match sa 8 Ohm receiver.   

Di ba?   ;)


ah ok po, sorry sir gagawa pa lang kasi ako first setup ko kaya wala ako alam sa mga ratings ng speakers and avr =) thanks po!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ivannn on Sep 14, 2008 at 08:12 AM
do local stores carry the yamaha cdps and yamaha stereo amps? if yes, then which store/s in particular?

up ko lang mga sir. inquire ko lang. thanks thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: milken on Sep 14, 2008 at 02:56 PM
Why don't you check out local audio stores like Audio World and Spectra if they are carrying yamaha cdps and stereo amps?  The DPC's yellow page Business section is a good place to start.  Most audio stores are under one section. That's how I check out availability of stocks and canvass for best prices.  Saves time and energy. :D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ivannn on Sep 18, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Why don't you check out local audio stores like Audio World and Spectra if they are carrying yamaha cdps and stereo amps?  The DPC's yellow page Business section is a good place to start.  Most audio stores are under one section. That's how I check out availability of stocks and canvass for best prices.  Saves time and energy. :D

yup yup no problem with it naman. pero ask around din ako dito kasi baka may mga naging buyers na or may nakita na sa mga local stores natin.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mikevg08 on Oct 05, 2008 at 08:03 PM
mga sirs, saan po kaya may available yamaha avr na black? will be paired sa wharfe 9.5... TIA =)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: iiinas on Oct 05, 2008 at 10:55 PM
mga sirs, saan po kaya may available yamaha avr na black? will be paired sa wharfe 9.5... TIA =)

subukan mo sa listening in style (shang), listening room (mega mall), stop look and listen (glorietta), sila mga distributors ng yamaha avrs.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mikevg08 on Oct 05, 2008 at 11:10 PM
subukan mo sa listening in style (shang), listening room (mega mall), stop look and listen (glorietta), sila mga distributors ng yamaha avrs.

thank you sir try ko puntahan this coming week yang mga store na yan... tnx tnx.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: iiinas on Oct 05, 2008 at 11:13 PM
thank you sir try ko puntahan this coming week yang mga store na yan... tnx tnx.

all 3 store are owned by one group lang. kaya you can just go to one nearest you, if ever they dont have it dun sa branch they may have it sa others. the busiest branch i would assume is the one in megamall.

btw, i think they also opened one in libis.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mikevg08 on Oct 06, 2008 at 01:57 AM
all 3 store are owned by one group lang. kaya you can just go to one nearest you, if ever they dont have it dun sa branch they may have it sa others. the busiest branch i would assume is the one in megamall.

btw, i think they also opened one in libis.

thanks for the advice sir iiinas ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Oct 06, 2008 at 07:05 PM
mga bro whats the cheapest yammy AVR with pre out? balak ko kasi i pair sa 5 ch Bada power amp by matz eh. worthit kaya ganitong setup? my old avr gave up on me, sayang naman yung Euros 8 system kung mag papalit na naman ako, 6 ohms kasi kaya I think it would be better to use a power amp to drive these towers. my doubt kasi ako na kaya nag gave up yun old yammy AVR ko its bec 6 ohms yung speakers ko.

advice naman dyan sa pricing mga bro?...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ivannn on Oct 06, 2008 at 08:56 PM
mga bro whats the cheapest yammy AVR with pre out? balak ko kasi i pair sa 5 ch Bada power amp by matz eh. worthit kaya ganitong setup? my old avr gave up on me, sayang naman yung Euros 8 system kung mag papalit na naman ako, 6 ohms kasi kaya I think it would be better to use a power amp to drive these towers. my doubt kasi ako na kaya nag gave up yun old yammy AVR ko its bec 6 ohms yung speakers ko.

advice naman dyan sa pricing mga bro?...

sir what was your previous yammy receiver?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: leomar on Oct 06, 2008 at 09:37 PM
mga bro whats the cheapest yammy AVR with pre out? balak ko kasi i pair sa 5 ch Bada power amp by matz eh. worthit kaya ganitong setup? my old avr gave up on me, sayang naman yung Euros 8 system kung mag papalit na naman ako, 6 ohms kasi kaya I think it would be better to use a power amp to drive these towers. my doubt kasi ako na kaya nag gave up yun old yammy AVR ko its bec 6 ohms yung speakers ko.

advice naman dyan sa pricing mga bro?...

kung hindi naman kayo after sa latest receiver with hdmi sir, tingin ko ok pa rin naman ung rxv659  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mikevg08 on Oct 06, 2008 at 10:27 PM
mga bro whats the cheapest yammy AVR with pre out? balak ko kasi i pair sa 5 ch Bada power amp by matz eh. worthit kaya ganitong setup? my old avr gave up on me, sayang naman yung Euros 8 system kung mag papalit na naman ako, 6 ohms kasi kaya I think it would be better to use a power amp to drive these towers. my doubt kasi ako na kaya nag gave up yun old yammy AVR ko its bec 6 ohms yung speakers ko.

advice naman dyan sa pricing mga bro?...

mga sirs nakakasira po ba talaga yung 6ohm speakers kung ippair sa yammy avrs? kasi yung speaker ko wharfe 9.5 and 6ohm sya... di pa ako nakakabili ng avr pero yamaha nga sana bibilhin ko kaso totoo kaya na baka masira yung avr dahil sa 6ohm speaker? Please advice, thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: blued888 on Oct 06, 2008 at 10:37 PM
mga sirs nakakasira po ba talaga yung 6ohm speakers kung ippair sa yammy avrs? kasi yung speaker ko wharfe 9.5 and 6ohm sya... di pa ako nakakabili ng avr pero yamaha nga sana bibilhin ko kaso totoo kaya na baka masira yung avr dahil sa 6ohm speaker? Please advice, thanks!

6-ohm gamit ko with my Yamaha HTR-5540 ngayon but satellites lang sila.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mikevg08 on Oct 06, 2008 at 10:45 PM
6-ohm gamit ko with my Yamaha HTR-5540 ngayon but satellites lang sila.

pero may case na po ba dito sa yamaha thread na nasira yung avr dahil sa rated 6ohm yung speaker? takot lang po kasi ako na baka bumigay din bibilihin kong yammy avr dahil sa speakers ko...  :-\ thanks guys!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: blued888 on Oct 06, 2008 at 10:47 PM
pero may case na po ba dito sa yamaha thread na nasira yung avr dahil sa rated 6ohm yung speaker? takot lang po kasi ako na baka bumigay din bibilihin kong yammy avr dahil sa speakers ko...  :-\ thanks guys!

Tingin ko between the two, yung speaker mo ang masisira, particularly the tweeters. I think that's if your amplifier introduces clipped signals to the speaker.

I don't really know the technicalities on the matter, it might be better if you start a new topic pertaining to your problem para mas concentrated ang makuha mong answers. :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mikevg08 on Oct 06, 2008 at 10:56 PM
thank you sir, natakot lang po kasi ako dun sa sinabi ni hattori_hanzo na baka yung speakers nya yung naging cause ng pagkasira ng yammy avr nya... im still in the making of my first HT setup kaya di ko pa masyado kabisabo yung mga ratings ng avrs and speakers, sabi kasi nila mas ok ang wharfedales sa yamaha specially sa movies kaya yamaha ippair ko sa 9.5s ko.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: blued888 on Oct 06, 2008 at 11:07 PM
mga bro whats the cheapest yammy AVR with pre out? balak ko kasi i pair sa 5 ch Bada power amp by matz eh. worthit kaya ganitong setup? my old avr gave up on me, sayang naman yung Euros 8 system kung mag papalit na naman ako, 6 ohms kasi kaya I think it would be better to use a power amp to drive these towers. my doubt kasi ako na kaya nag gave up yun old yammy AVR ko its bec 6 ohms yung speakers ko.

advice naman dyan sa pricing mga bro?...

RX-V663 pinakabasic ng new generation Yamaha with pre-outs pero wala pa ata dito. Siguro nasa mga 30k ito paglabas.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Oct 07, 2008 at 06:54 AM
@blued888 - Thanks man, ill be hunting a new yammy AVR next month. matagal din akong nawala sa HT and audio hubb. kaya eto hanap ulit...

regarding sa mga nag inquire about 6 ohms speakers. im using a Euros8 which has a 6ohms rating yung AVR ko was Yamaha 995 which is at his time eh mid end sa 5ch receiver it has a resistance switch sa likod. I used to own BOSE am5 for fronts which is 8ohms, but I swtiched to a 6 ohm load medyo mas mainit siya, Im not really into tech my self pero ang laki ng diffrence ng tower vs subsat system at ang laki rin ng difference pag dating sa heat ng AVR.

it happen when my AVR started to clipped, I thought medyo may short lang sa spkwires or medyo madumi yung AVR tried cleaning and tracing ng wiring pero I cont to died down. maybe ciguro matanda na yung AVR ko. but then again alaga naman. kaya I decided nalang next time to use a power amp. I think this will juiced up more my Euros8 towers.

 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: rcci on Oct 07, 2008 at 09:04 AM
why don't you bring your AVR to AudioWorld in Banawe Q.C.?  Let them have a look at it baka maayos pa.  Meron din yata mga nag consign ng pre owned system sa kanila baka makatipid pa. ::)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Oct 07, 2008 at 11:27 AM
why don't you bring your AVR to AudioWorld in Banawe Q.C.?  Let them have a look at it baka maayos pa.  Meron din yata mga nag consign ng pre owned system sa kanila baka makatipid pa. ::)

no time for repair bro, saglit lang kse ako sa Pinas, 2-3 months max kaya dont want to waste time waiting for AVR repair, my old AVR served its time naman. kaya eto rather buy a new one...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Oct 07, 2008 at 11:31 AM
kung hindi naman kayo after sa latest receiver with hdmi sir, tingin ko ok pa rin naman ung rxv659  ;D

May dinidispose ka bang 659?



pero may case na po ba dito sa yamaha thread na nasira yung avr dahil sa rated 6ohm yung speaker? takot lang po kasi ako na baka bumigay din bibilihin kong yammy avr dahil sa speakers ko...  :-\ thanks guys!

Nope. Even at 4-ohm, your speaker and AVR is safe ... provided you dont overdrive your amps or listen too loud to disturb your neighbor.

Even at 8 ohm load, your AVR and speaker is not safe ... if you overdrive your AVR or listen too loud!

Decent AVR has protection ... it shuts off when in clipping conditions.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Oct 08, 2008 at 11:05 AM
mga bro whats the cheapest yammy AVR with pre out? balak ko kasi i pair sa 5 ch Bada power amp by matz eh. worthit kaya ganitong setup? my old avr gave up on me, sayang naman yung Euros 8 system kung mag papalit na naman ako, 6 ohms kasi kaya I think it would be better to use a power amp to drive these towers. my doubt kasi ako na kaya nag gave up yun old yammy AVR ko its bec 6 ohms yung speakers ko.

advice naman dyan sa pricing mga bro?...

Sent you PM
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Oct 08, 2008 at 02:51 PM
thanks bro aHobbit, see you soon bro...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Oct 14, 2008 at 08:00 PM
mga bro ano ba latest model ng mga yammy AVR dyan? ranging from 20k above?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: southice on Oct 15, 2008 at 11:00 AM
humina yung volume ng receiver what could be the prob. usually nasa mga 35 lang malakas na but ngayon kahit isagad ko volume hindi sya ganun kalakas model is rx-v630
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: reynold on Oct 15, 2008 at 11:17 AM
humina yung volume ng receiver what could be the prob. usually nasa mga 35 lang malakas na but ngayon kahit isagad ko volume hindi sya ganun kalakas model is rx-v630

Baka you accidentally pressed the Mute button on your remote, nangyari kasi sa akin yan dati.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ivannn on Oct 15, 2008 at 11:47 AM
try other cds / dvds. or try to swap cdp muna.

check mo rin baka naka night mode ka tapos naka max.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bongkers on Oct 15, 2008 at 11:35 PM
mga sir gud evening newbie here, and im having problems with my Yamaha RX-V620 reciever everytime i turn ON the DSP there's always this static pagnilalakasan ko ung volume but when i turn off DSP nawawala static. gears are rx-v620, wharfe 9.5 and wharfe 9.1 then a Philips DVD player. i hope u could help me out thanks..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Oct 16, 2008 at 12:19 AM
Kung lumilitaw ang static tuwing naka-on ang DSP, may failure na siguro ang ASIC chip.  Yamaha uses its own ASIC chip, which they call the YSS chip. 

Your model uses a YSS-928 chip (a 32-bit ASIC), which handles Dolby/DTS decoding and DSP processing.  Baka kailangang palitan ang YSS chip.

Medyo mahirap ang problema mo sir.  Kung simple lang, puwede pa siguro ang DIY, pero in this case, kailangan na talagang dalhin sa technician.

Ask for diagnosis and estimate.  Baka sabihin papalitan ang buong board imbis na isang chip lang.  Kung masyadong mahal, upgrade na lang sa bagong receiver.  Sayang naman ang bagong Wharfedales!  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bongkers on Oct 16, 2008 at 09:47 PM
got my reciever from a fellow pdvd'er, neways san po ba meron nagrerepair ng yamaha reciever

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ivannn on Oct 16, 2008 at 10:15 PM
got my reciever from a fellow pdvd'er, neways san po ba meron nagrerepair ng yamaha reciever



ask mo sa member na nabilhan mo baka naman may ganun na problem na pala ang receiver before it was sold to you... baka naman dati pa pala ang problem tapos it was sold to you ng di nababanggit yung problem na yun...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bongkers on Oct 16, 2008 at 10:59 PM
mga sir ask ko lang if ill use optical cable will it lessen the static...


the seller told me it was in a perfect condition he' even tested it daw before giving it to me that night.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Oct 18, 2008 at 01:35 AM
got my reciever from a fellow pdvd'er, neways san po ba meron nagrerepair ng yamaha reciever

Authorized service center:

Audio World Tech. located at 749 Banawe cor. Sct. Alcaraz, in between Retiro and Delmonte ave.
Tel.7327716 and 7426843
We carry DYNAUDIO, MISSION, B&W, JPW, HEYBROOK, VELODYNE, ECOSSE CABLES, EXPOSURE, ROTEL, MUSICAL FIDELITY, YAMAHA, PIONEER, MARANTZ, ONKYO, and much more, we also got lots of preowned gears. pls come visit us :)   Audiophile cd's also available.

Sales and Service center of YAMAHA.


mga sir ask ko lang if ill use optical cable will it lessen the static... 

I doubt it.  Sa DSP setting lang kasi lumalabas ang noise e.  Kung coax cable ang problema, dapat siguro lalabas ang noise kahit naka DSP ka o hindi.


the seller told me it was in a perfect condition he' even tested it daw before giving it to me that night.

I wouldn't give too much reliance on a second-hand seller's assurances.   ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ivannn on Oct 18, 2008 at 09:00 AM
yup. even if may assurance ka from the seller, ikaw pa rin ang gagamit in the end eh... so if may underlying problems na eh you will be the one to bear it... i have nothing against the one who sold the unit to you, pero it would be best if all details and other reminders regarding the unit eh nabanggit before the unit turnover para at least on your part as the new owner eh alam mo ang "limits" ng nabili mo.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: blued888 on Oct 20, 2008 at 02:53 AM
Available na ba ang RX-V663 locally? How much?

EDIT: Already called Audio World and ETA on the RX-V663 is 2nd week of November with ~32k price (after usual 15% discount)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mikevg08 on Oct 20, 2008 at 12:56 PM
Available na ba ang RX-V663 locally? How much?

EDIT: Already called Audio World and ETA on the RX-V663 is 2nd week of November with ~32k price (after usual 15% discount)

sir kasama daw po ba sa dadating yung rx-v363? thanks po!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: blued888 on Oct 20, 2008 at 01:21 PM
sir kasama daw po ba sa dadating yung rx-v363? thanks po!

All I asked was about the 663. You can call them up at 732-7716.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: milken on Oct 20, 2008 at 03:02 PM
Available na ba ang RX-V663 locally? How much?

EDIT: Already called Audio World and ETA on the RX-V663 is 2nd week of November with ~32k price (after usual 15% discount)

Yeah right. Three (3) months ago I called them and they told me V663 will arrive sometime in end of August/early September.  I settled for other brand instead.   >:( 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: blued888 on Oct 20, 2008 at 03:54 PM
Yeah right. Three (3) months ago I called them and they told me V663 will arrive sometime in end of August/early September.  I settled for other brand instead.   >:( 

Hahaha ako rin since July pa nagtatanong sa kanila. Pwede ako magpadala 663 dito kung meron may gusto. Balak ko kasi upgrade yung receiver ko para isasabay ko na. But I need to know within the next few days.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ASuL on Oct 20, 2008 at 05:38 PM
ano ba receiver mo ngayon bossing
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: blued888 on Oct 20, 2008 at 05:55 PM
ano ba receiver mo ngayon bossing

HTR-5540, not sure of the RX-V model equivalent.

EDIT: Meron kasi ako mga bagong speakers, kaya parang gusto ko na rin upgrade yung receiver para itong gamit ko ngayon magiging secondary setup.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: poch on Oct 20, 2008 at 08:42 PM
Available na ba ang RX-V663 locally? How much?

EDIT: Already called Audio World and ETA on the RX-V663 is 2nd week of November with ~32k price (after usual 15% discount)


whoa! 32k for the RX-V663? i was in singapore last sept and the price for the 663 was 580sgd. so thats around 18,+++ here.
laki pala diff pag dito.  :(
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: blued888 on Oct 20, 2008 at 08:47 PM
MSRP is P37,350 for the RX-V663. Yung 32k, discounted price na yun. If anyone's interested with a US RX-V663 for 24k kindly let me know. ;D Link (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=86663.0)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: poch on Oct 20, 2008 at 08:52 PM
yikes mas mahal pa pala 37k.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: natosan on Oct 20, 2008 at 11:37 PM

whoa! 32k for the RX-V663? i was in singapore last sept and the price for the 663 was 580sgd. so thats around 18,+++ here.
laki pala diff pag dito.  :(
Sir san sa singapore mo nakita un v663 at 580sg. Baka punta ako dun soon
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: poch on Oct 21, 2008 at 03:52 PM
Sir san sa singapore mo nakita un v663 at 580sg. Baka punta ako dun soon


sa Sim Lim sir. sa AV shop sa 2nd flr...forgot the name pero sya yung pinakamalaking store dun.
mura din other receivers, usually 10k cheaper than dito sa atin.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: natosan on Oct 21, 2008 at 08:15 PM
ayos! Sa singapore na lang ako bibili sa u.s. 220v p. Kahit mahal konti. Kasya sa baggage allowance. Reputable ba mga stores dun? International warranty kaya? All i remember sa sim lim are photo and pc stuff.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ricochet315 on Oct 22, 2008 at 02:34 AM
When on AV mode, my front speakers, a pair of Dynaudio Confidence C1s (4 ohms) are driven by a separate amplifier, a Plinius 9200 which in turn is hooked to my Yamaha RSV1800 front pre-outs.  The rest of my current speakers, Boston Acoustics rated at 8 ohms, are still driven by the Yamaha. 

To get a uniform sonical signature, I am inclined to replace my center, surrounds and back speakers with Dynaudios as well.  My problem is that Dyns are rated at 4ohms while my Yamaha's manual recommends the use of 6 ohms or higher for the center, surrounds, and back speakers.  4 ohms speakers are only allowed to be used as fronts/main. Considering that I am using an external amplifier to drive the fronts, can this lesser load allow me to safely use 4 ohms for the rest of the channels?   
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ASuL on Oct 22, 2008 at 10:12 AM
natosan...pwede pabili sa singapore?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: natosan on Oct 23, 2008 at 05:21 PM
asul, actually matagal pa ako makakapunta sa singapore around feb '09, that is kung tuloy yun seminar namin.  mahirap kung receiver ipapabili mo kasi baka mag-excess baggage ako at baka mapag-initan ng airport customs.. :o

meron bang website with pricelist mga singapore hi-fi stores? or at least man lang forum tulad ng Pdvd to check the prices in advance.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: yakisoba on Nov 09, 2008 at 10:20 PM
sirs anong ok na SPEAKER for the YAMAHA RX-V663?  Mission?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: vtec3 on Nov 10, 2008 at 11:20 AM
i was using a 659 + power amp + Mission before and for me ok naman, but baka magkaiba tayo ng sound preference  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackryan on Nov 11, 2008 at 02:58 PM

What is the current model equivalent for RX-V750 (Platinum color) ?

Also, how much is a reasonable "trade-in / for sale" value of an RX-V750 nowadays?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Nemesis91 on Nov 18, 2008 at 05:14 PM
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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: polgas on Dec 03, 2008 at 10:01 PM
Boss Jeff,

Pa-pm naman ako ng Yammy receivers prices. Thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dyupol on Dec 04, 2008 at 01:08 AM
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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: keldomingo77 on Dec 04, 2008 at 11:34 AM
Sir, ako rin pa pm ng yamaha receiver prices, pakisama na rin ung onkyo para ma compare ko, tnx in advance
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: statham on Dec 06, 2008 at 09:15 PM
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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: iiinas on Dec 06, 2008 at 10:14 PM
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Color : gold/ with remote/ no scratches.

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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Bartman on Dec 08, 2008 at 07:21 PM
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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bayen on Jan 14, 2009 at 09:01 PM
whats the best budget yamaha AVR for wharfedale series 9 speakers?

thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ivannn on Jan 14, 2009 at 09:36 PM
whats the best budget yamaha AVR for wharfedale series 9 speakers?

thanks

for entry level yamaha - rxv 363

tapos if budget permits you can check out rxv 463 and rxv 563. pero if ma stretch mo pa ang budget even more to lets say above P25k eh go for rxv 663.

sir anchit i believe uses rxv363. tapos yung rxv663 medyo dumarami na ang owners ngayon :P
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bayen on Jan 14, 2009 at 09:45 PM
for entry level yamaha - rxv 363

tapos if budget permits you can check out rxv 463 and rxv 563. pero if ma stretch mo pa ang budget even more to lets say above P25k eh go for rxv 663.

sir anchit i believe uses rxv363. tapos yung rxv663 medyo dumarami na ang owners ngayon :P

any idea how much ung rxv 363? rvx 463? rvx 563? rvx 663? :)

thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bayen on Jan 14, 2009 at 09:47 PM
hi sir,

could your pm me the prices of the following Yamaha AVRs.

Yamaha rxv 363 - 
Yamaha rvx 463 -
Yamaha rvx 563 -
Yamaha rvx 663 -

cash/credit card/

thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ivannn on Jan 14, 2009 at 09:50 PM
hi sir,

could your pm me the prices of the following Yamaha AVRs.

Yamaha rxv 363 - 
Yamaha rvx 463 -
Yamaha rvx 563 -
Yamaha rvx 663 -

cash/credit card/

thanks

hi sir. for prices try to pm e-reply and nemesis91. tapos try to check out ht stores sa park square 1 in makati and sa shangrila mall para accurate ang prices and you can audition the receivers.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bayen on Jan 14, 2009 at 09:53 PM
Ayt. Thanks Ivann.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: blued888 on Jan 15, 2009 at 09:25 PM
hi sir,

could your pm me the prices of the following Yamaha AVRs.

Yamaha rxv 363 - 
Yamaha rvx 463 -
Yamaha rvx 563 -
Yamaha rvx 663 -

cash/credit card/

thanks

If I recall correctly, MSRP of the 663 is around 37k. :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Toslink on Jan 16, 2009 at 12:14 AM
local price of 663 is 32k  ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: blued888 on Jan 16, 2009 at 12:32 AM
If I recall correctly, MSRP of the 663 is around 37k. :)

local price of 663 is 32k  ??? ??? ??? ???

Price I mentioned is MSRP, after the usual discount, comes down to around 32k as you mentioned.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ivannn on Jan 16, 2009 at 08:54 AM
Price I mentioned is MSRP, after the usual discount, comes down to around 32k as you mentioned.

hopefully bumaba ang 663 ng mga P20k :P
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: blued888 on Jan 16, 2009 at 06:29 PM
hopefully bumaba ang 663 ng mga P20k :P

Antay lang baka may magupgrade bigla dyan sa tabi tabi. ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: milken on Jan 16, 2009 at 08:12 PM
Antay lang baka may magupgrade bigla dyan sa tabi tabi. ;D

aabangan ko yan. i'm just a pm away. hehehe  :D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ivannn on Jan 17, 2009 at 09:05 AM
aabangan ko yan. i'm just a pm away. hehehe  :D

hehe same here :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: red_one on Jan 21, 2009 at 11:04 AM
what's the cheapest Yamaha receiver with HMDI ports available? how much kaya? :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: blued888 on Jan 22, 2009 at 02:57 AM
what's the cheapest Yamaha receiver with HMDI ports available? how much kaya? :)

RX-V363 I think is around 15k. I think it only passes video through though. It doesn't do audio over HDMI.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: blued888 on Jan 22, 2009 at 03:17 AM
Baka may interested, initial impressions re: RX-V663 compared to RX-V430.

Link (http://www.eclecticelectronics.net/ht-home-theater/first-listening-impressions-on-the-yamaha-rx-v663/)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ivannn on Jan 22, 2009 at 08:04 AM
Baka may interested, initial impressions re: RX-V663 compared to RX-V430.

Link (http://www.eclecticelectronics.net/ht-home-theater/first-listening-impressions-on-the-yamaha-rx-v663/)

good read siya. lalo tuloy napapa isip ng upgrade :)

sana may isa pang review na ang comparison naman is rv-v450 <--- which im currently using :P hehehehe!

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: red_one on Jan 22, 2009 at 09:55 AM
RX-V363 I think is around 15k. I think it only passes video through though. It doesn't do audio over HDMI.

i downloaded the RX-V363 owner's manual and verified your information. on page 14:

"Audio signals input at HDMI jack are not output from any speaker terminals but output from the connected video monitor.
To enjoy the sound from speakers connected to this unit,
  -make an analog or digital connection besides the HDMI connection (see page 16)
  -mute the volume of the connected video monitor."

next, i downloaded the RX-V463 owner's manual and found out it supports audio via HDMI so no need to use a separate digital connection. this model fits my requirements. how much kaya ito?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: blued888 on Jan 22, 2009 at 12:05 PM
good read siya. lalo tuloy napapa isip ng upgrade :)

sana may isa pang review na ang comparison naman is rv-v450 <--- which im currently using :P hehehehe!

Thanks! Wala akong RX-V450 eh, pahiram nung unit mo tapos gawan ko ng write-up. LOL ;D

Seriously speaking though, I would doubt there is a significant difference between the RX-V430 and the RX-V450 since they essentially both come from the 4-series of Yamaha.

i downloaded the RX-V363 owner's manual and verified your information. on page 14:

"Audio signals input at HDMI jack are not output from any speaker terminals but output from the connected video monitor.
To enjoy the sound from speakers connected to this unit,
  -make an analog or digital connection besides the HDMI connection (see page 16)
  -mute the volume of the connected video monitor."

next, i downloaded the RX-V463 owner's manual and found out it supports audio via HDMI so no need to use a separate digital connection. this model fits my requirements. how much kaya ito?

I would guess that the RX-V463 would be around 20k+ thereabouts.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ivannn on Jan 22, 2009 at 12:39 PM
Thanks! Wala akong RX-V450 eh, pahiram nung unit mo tapos gawan ko ng write-up. LOL ;D

Seriously speaking though, I would doubt there is a significant difference between the RX-V430 and the RX-V450 since they essentially both come from the 4-series of Yamaha.


hehehe! yup yan din naisip ko. same series sila and mga connections lang at minor aesthetics pinagkaiba.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: red_one on Jan 22, 2009 at 05:44 PM
price update from our friendly shop owner:
Yamaha RX-V363 at less than 15K. (supports HDMI video)
Yamaha RX-V463 at less than 19K. (supports HDMI video and audio)
 ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: phototo on Feb 24, 2009 at 05:29 PM
price update from our friendly shop owner:
Yamaha RX-V363 at less than 15K. (supports HDMI video)
Yamaha RX-V463 at less than 19K. (supports HDMI video and audio)
 ;D


Yamaha just updated the RX V receiver line up

Here's the link from engadget HD

http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/02/23/yamaha-updates-its-rx-v-receiver-lineup-across-five-models/

WOW, sana bumaba na presyo ng 663!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ment on Feb 24, 2009 at 06:09 PM
Baka may interested, initial impressions re: RX-V663 compared to RX-V430.

Link (http://www.eclecticelectronics.net/ht-home-theater/first-listening-impressions-on-the-yamaha-rx-v663/)

nice link .... am encouraged indirectly  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: blued888 on Feb 24, 2009 at 08:24 PM
Yamaha just updated the RX V receiver line up

Here's the link from engadget HD

http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/02/23/yamaha-updates-its-rx-v-receiver-lineup-across-five-models/

WOW, sana bumaba na presyo ng 663!

I'm not impressed with the new line-up, plus what's up with the white-lit display? :P

And the 665 is rated at 90w @ 1kHz. Ang equivalent ng 663 in terms of power would be the 765. Note that these models are lighter than the previous 63 series (crappier transformers maybe?)

The 765 weighs almost 2 lbs lighter than the 663. ;D

Seems like they're enticing consumers with the lossless decoding features which is available from the 465 and up.

Partial summary of updates for the 65 series (http://www.eclecticelectronics.net/ht-home-theater/yamaha-introduces-av-receivers-for-2009/).
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: lakambini on Feb 25, 2009 at 02:54 PM
(http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/receivers/yamaha-rx-v665/image_mini)

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/receivers/yamaha-rx-v665 (http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/receivers/yamaha-rx-v665)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: iiinas on Feb 25, 2009 at 03:09 PM
I'm not impressed with the new line-up, plus what's up with the white-lit display? :P


"One of the biggest cosmetic changes for the new line of Yamaha's is the switch from the amber display color to blue. While we understand that blue is the new pink for audio equipment and is often quoted (somewhat sarcastically I might add) by reviewers as being "soothing," the fact is that the amber was Yamaha's signature. It will be interesting to see how consumers react to this change."

hehe, sir blued888, i think by the looks of your comment, you are one of those against the shift to a new display color.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: blued888 on Feb 25, 2009 at 03:36 PM
"One of the biggest cosmetic changes for the new line of Yamaha's is the switch from the amber display color to blue. While we understand that blue is the new pink for audio equipment and is often quoted (somewhat sarcastically I might add) by reviewers as being "soothing," the fact is that the amber was Yamaha's signature. It will be interesting to see how consumers react to this change."

hehe, sir blued888, i think by the looks of your comment, you are one of those against the shift to a new display color.  :D :D :D

Haha! Against nga ako diyan! ;D Ang tagal tagal na kasi ginagamit ng Yamaha yung amber tapos biglang mag-shishift to blue (or white or bluish-white). Parang mag sesecond guess pa yung mga tao pag nakita yung receiver kung anong brand talaga yun. Baka isipin nila pirated! LOL :D

IMO, sana tinry muna nila on one or two units, sinugod nila agad lahat sa gera eh. ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ment on Feb 26, 2009 at 01:04 AM
currently enjoying my yammy RX-V430  ;D

sounds good naman ..... low volume listening lang naman sa kwarto  ;D

need some barry white heheheh
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: blued888 on Mar 01, 2009 at 03:24 PM
65 series are out (http://www.eclecticelectronics.net/news/news-new-yamaha-av-receivers-now-in-stock-at-the-audioholics-store/) (in the US). Better get your 63 series AVR if you're still looking to get one!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: turbine on Apr 19, 2009 at 08:06 PM
sir,

pa pm naman ko yamaha receiver rx-v663 and rx-v863. thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Gwenael on Apr 19, 2009 at 10:58 PM
mga sir, available na kya Yamaha x65 series dito sa atin? sa mga shops na meron nito, kindly pm me your price for RXV-765 and RXV-665 cash price..thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: pogzz505 on Apr 24, 2009 at 07:06 PM
new member here guys..

been using Yamaha RX-V995 for some years now..use it for ps3 games most of the time..my old dvd's (na malabo na ang dating pag watch ko because of BD's)..now some BD movies also using ps3..

planning to upgrade to an HDMI AVR..so i can get DD True HD, DTS HD..(i need to buy a stand alone BD player based sa mga post niyo)..

Yamaha 463 or 663 choices ko..
what can you suggest..i read na may upscaling to 1080p ang 663 para sa mga old dvd's..does that help really? the upscaling?
thanks..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: lmerb on Apr 24, 2009 at 10:01 PM
RXV465 w/ hd audio. Kelan availability nito dito sa Pinas??
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: blued888 on Apr 25, 2009 at 01:06 AM
mga sir, available na kya Yamaha x65 series dito sa atin? sa mga shops na meron nito, kindly pm me your price for RXV-765 and RXV-665 cash price..thanks

RXV465 w/ hd audio. Kelan availability nito dito sa Pinas??

I very much doubt that the 65 series of Yamaha will be released here anytime soon. The 63 series just arrived October 2008.

If the 65 series would indeed be arriving this year, it would probably be during the last quarter of 2009.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: glr on Jun 25, 2009 at 05:35 PM
Mga bossing tanong ko lang. meron bento sa akin 5k Yamaha AV Receiver Model RX-V493. ok ba to sa price nya? need ur feedback sa performance nito.... salamat po....
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: anchit on Jun 25, 2009 at 06:24 PM
im a 363 user, so far ok naman, or is it becoz i havent tried other AVRs.  got it for below 14k, bnew.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: glr on Jun 26, 2009 at 07:13 AM
nakita ko lng kc to d2 sa malaysia. kaya lang 110v ok pa din kaya? need more feedback....thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: RNIverson on Jun 28, 2009 at 08:50 PM
I'm torn between getting a RX-V765 or RX-V665. Compared the two and sa RMS Output Power lang naman difference. Sulit ba ang extra cash for the 765? Thanks

765 vs 665 (http://www.yamaha.com/yec/compare/Detail.html?compitem1=&compitem2=5028422&compitem3=5028057&CTID=5000200&VNM=LIVE&B_compare.x=30&B_compare.y=8&comp_items=5028422&comp_items=5028057)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: blued888 on Jun 28, 2009 at 10:55 PM
I'm torn between getting a RX-V765 or RX-V665. Compared the two and sa RMS Output Power lang naman difference. Sulit ba ang extra cash for the 765? Thanks

765 vs 665 (http://www.yamaha.com/yec/compare/Detail.html?compitem1=&compitem2=5028422&compitem3=5028057&CTID=5000200&VNM=LIVE&B_compare.x=30&B_compare.y=8&comp_items=5028422&comp_items=5028057)

90wpc @ 1kHz yung 665 while 95wpc @ full bandwidth yung 765. If you convert the values of the 665 to full bandwidth, it'll probably be somewhere around 70 to 75wpc.

IMO, better stick to the 665 and get an external amplifier if you really need more power because a 10 to 20w power isn't that much of a difference. Remember that there's only a 3dB increase in volume for every doubling of power.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: RNIverson on Jun 29, 2009 at 05:03 PM
Thanks blued888! In your opinion, would the 665 be enough for a diamond 10.7?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: blued888 on Jul 01, 2009 at 04:45 PM
Thanks blued888! In your opinion, would the 665 be enough for a diamond 10.7?

I'm pretty sure it'll be fine unless you turn up your volume really loud. In which case, you'll need an external amplifier.

I use big speakers with my 663 (http://www.eclecticelectronics.net/random-photo-random-day/photo-full-home-theater-room-setup/), wala naman problema. Yun nga lang a bit higher yung sensitivity ng Infinity and according to them it's 8-ohms nominal while the Wharfedales are 6-ohms nominal.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mike c on Jul 01, 2009 at 04:56 PM
they'll be fine, especially if you set them to "small" with a crossover of 80hz
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: RNIverson on Jul 02, 2009 at 12:12 AM
Thanks for all the replies. Will add this to my Yamaha or Onkyo question  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receiver - RX-V1065
Post by: blued888 on Jul 08, 2009 at 01:49 AM
New addition to the 65 series!

RX-V1065 (http://www.eclecticelectronics.net/ht-home-theater/yamaha-rx-v1065-successor-to-the-rx-v863/)

Possibly the successor to the RX-V863, due to the inclusion of HD radio and equal power ratings.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: lithium_deuteride on Oct 15, 2009 at 09:16 PM
Guys, where I can have my RXV1200 fixed?  After more than 8 years of flawless service, it developed a problem last night. It swithces on but then shuts off when you touch some of the control buttons. 

It's a very good AVR that never gave me the slightest desire to upgrade so I'd like to extract more service years from it if I can.

TIA.  :)


Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: simonzaide on Oct 16, 2009 at 08:56 AM
the service center for yamaha is in Banawe :)


Also i was wondering if any of you guys own a yamaha rx-v1500 any chance you can give me feedback on it and whats a reasonable price for it (2nd hand )
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: lithium_deuteride on Oct 16, 2009 at 12:46 PM
Thanks simonzaide;

Noticed there are not too many threads about repairs hereabouts.  It's always about buying new, upgrading, etc.  ;)

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Oct 16, 2009 at 04:34 PM
Thanks simonzaide;

Noticed there are not too many threads about repairs hereabouts.  It's always about buying new, upgrading, etc.  ;)


Most people find it an opportunity to upgrade if their equipment breaks down. especially those more money to spare. at some point cost effective din naman with all the advances in features lalo na sa receivers.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: lithium_deuteride on Oct 17, 2009 at 08:18 AM
Right on. I guess I don't have money to spare, hehe.

Good news is my RXV1200 decided to work again last night as if nothing happened.  Weird.

I can hold off on replacing it.  It's the speakers I'm going to replace first.  
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: iiinas on Oct 17, 2009 at 08:30 AM
Thanks simonzaide;

Noticed there are not too many threads about repairs hereabouts.  It's always about buying new, upgrading, etc.  ;)



you can try the service threads.

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?board=68.0 (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?board=68.0)

i think i saw a thread there for yamaha service centers.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Verbl Kint on Oct 17, 2009 at 01:12 PM
Has the 65 series arrived?  :D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: lithium_deuteride on Oct 17, 2009 at 02:47 PM
you can try the service threads.

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?board=68.0 (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?board=68.0)

i think i saw a thread there for yamaha service centers.

Thanks iiinas.  I called Audioworld and was given a very helpful self-diagnostics tip: Disconnect all the speaker cables from the AVR and see if the AVR still shuts off.  If it still shuts off, there's a problem with the AVR.  If it doesn't, then it's likey that the speaker wires are grounded. Sure enough, inspspection revealed that my el cheapo speaker wires have multiple jacket cuts exposing the copper.  Time to buy real speaker wires, hehe.  Also explains why the AVR decided to act up as soon as I replaced the Wharf fronts with B&W.

At least my old beloved AVR is still OK.   :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: vhonn on Oct 19, 2009 at 09:28 AM
hi guys, meron ba review regarding rxv365? planning to have one once there is enough budget..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 20, 2009 at 12:36 AM
sir jon im happy to hear all is well with the yamaha. it saves you the headache. happy lsitening and watching movies again.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Jason_10 on Oct 26, 2009 at 09:24 PM
Hi guys! I've this old but reliable RXV-450. I'm having a little problem with the component video switching. It used to connect to CV sources now it only detects one at a time. I tried switching connections (CV A and CV B) and it only detects one video source. Tried a factory reset but to no avail. Should I bring it to AudioWorld na?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ivannn on Oct 26, 2009 at 09:52 PM
bring it na sir para ma check nila agad. by the way, pareho tayo ng receiver :) yung sa akin so far no problems pa naman.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Jason_10 on Oct 28, 2009 at 11:12 AM
My 450 is in audioworld na for check up and repair. Saw their new HDMI receivers na rin. Kaya lang even with mid end models, the remote no longer has the learning function.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Jason_10 on Nov 01, 2009 at 04:07 PM
Got my 450 na. Resolder lang pala ng board. Glad ok na.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: lakambini on Nov 18, 2009 at 02:58 PM
what's the best partnering equipment speaker and cd player) for a yamaha avr?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ivannn on Nov 18, 2009 at 04:00 PM
yamaha speakers <--- using yammy speakers with my yammy avr.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: blued888 on Nov 18, 2009 at 04:24 PM
what's the best partnering equipment speaker and cd player) for a yamaha avr?

I use Infinity Primus 5.0 speakers with my RX-V663.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: lakambini on Nov 18, 2009 at 05:06 PM
am using bw601 fronts, find it to be a little bright sounding, what to do?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Nov 18, 2009 at 05:23 PM
am using bw601 fronts, find it to be a little bright sounding, what to do?
the simplest would be to turn the treble control down.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: robie on Nov 21, 2009 at 11:16 AM
hello... im kinda newbie to HT's. based on my readings here at pinoydvd, yamaha is a good setup for ht.

pls suggest places where i can buy and canvass yamaha HT's and yamaha speakers. impt lang sa akin is that it has atleast 2 optical inputs and 5.1. im using it in a 4mx5m room, (for nmt, game console and/or dvd)

if possible pls provide me also estimate costs.  thanks in advance
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: insomnia on Nov 21, 2009 at 02:31 PM
I recently got this a few weeks ago.  First time I heard a yammy sing and I thought it sounded great.

 (http://www.thaisecondhand.com/view/productpic/09/10/p7955265n1.jpg)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: blued888 on Nov 23, 2009 at 10:52 AM
hello... im kinda newbie to HT's. based on my readings here at pinoydvd, yamaha is a good setup for ht.

pls suggest places where i can buy and canvass yamaha HT's and yamaha speakers. impt lang sa akin is that it has atleast 2 optical inputs and 5.1. im using it in a 4mx5m room, (for nmt, game console and/or dvd)

if possible pls provide me also estimate costs.  thanks in advance

Sa Automatic Center ata meron mga Yamaha speakers, particularly dun sa Gateway branch nila madaming choices.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Verbl Kint on Nov 23, 2009 at 11:59 AM
Where can I get to see the 65 series AVR's? Been wanting to audition a few of these...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: simonzaide on Nov 26, 2009 at 06:05 PM
hi all

i have a dsp a1 and im trying to figure out how to put in a 7 channel sterio mode... if i click effect off 2 channel lang sya.. when i use dsp programs not all the speakers are working

hope you can help me out

thanks in advance
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: volrathj on Nov 30, 2009 at 09:12 PM
Hi guys balak ko sana mag setup ng home theater system, ano ba ang latest ng yamaha receivers and out na sa store ngayon na ang price range is 31k thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: blued888 on Nov 30, 2009 at 09:13 PM
Hi guys balak ko sana mag setup ng home theater system, ano ba ang latest ng yamaha receivers and out na sa store ngayon na ang price range is 31k thanks.

RX-V665 ata
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: volrathj on Nov 30, 2009 at 10:50 PM
Thanks blued888 I'll check that out. ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:41 AM
hi all

i have a dsp a1 and im trying to figure out how to put in a 7 channel sterio mode... if i click effect off 2 channel lang sya.. when i use dsp programs not all the speakers are working

hope you can help me out

thanks in advance

sir thats 5.1 channel lang po di ba? it can only do 5 channel stereo, in the dsp mode you can click 5 channel stereo, thats the best it can do for multi channel stereo mode. effect off would really be 2 channel stereo as it eliminates all digital enhancements
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: makoy99 on Dec 01, 2009 at 08:27 PM
pa help naman building on my first entry level ht set up, ok ba uong yamaha rx 465 ok ba to sa mga reviews?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: blued888 on Dec 02, 2009 at 11:29 PM
pa help naman building on my first entry level ht set up, ok ba uong yamaha rx 465 ok ba to sa mga reviews?

If you're starting out then a basic receiver like the 465 is definitely a good way to go.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Verbl Kint on Dec 03, 2009 at 06:35 AM
pa help naman building on my first entry level ht set up, ok ba uong yamaha rx 465 ok ba to sa mga reviews?

Saan po kayo nakabili at magkano na po 465 at 365?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: smitfraud on Dec 08, 2009 at 07:47 PM

Mga Sir help kung anong mas ok sa tatlo:

Yamaha RX-V350 =2nd hand 6500
Pioneer VSX-519-k = Brand new 15999
Yamaha RX-V1500=price?


Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ferdinand on Dec 10, 2009 at 04:13 PM
Mga Sir help kung anong mas ok sa tatlo:

Yamaha RX-V350 =2nd hand 6500
Pioneer VSX-519-k = Brand new 15999
Yamaha RX-V1500=price?

Sir kabebenta ko palang ng rxv 1500, ok yan.  heavy weight ang dating pati ang performance nya.
I just disposed it in a cheap price of 14.8 K. KUng begineer kayo sa HT puede na yang rxv350.

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: smitfraud on Dec 11, 2009 at 11:12 PM

Salamat Sir Ferdie sa Feedback
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ferdinand on Dec 12, 2009 at 05:03 PM
Salamat Sir Ferdie sa Feedback
Ang problema lang pag nakuha mo yang rxv350, sure ako hanap ka ng mataas na model
walang 2 buwan, siguro iba na yan.  :D :D :D magastos ganitong libangan. :D :D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Verbl Kint on Dec 13, 2009 at 07:20 PM
Sa nga yamaha users, may nagpapabenta sa akin  baka entresado kayo
Yamaha RX-V2400   and RX-V2300 (made in Japan) complete po sa wednesday nya
daw idadan sa bahay.  Ang alam ko old stock but brandnew. sana makuha ko na
at malagay sa selling section.  Abangan ninyo na lang.  thanks.


Hmm...  Magkano kaya?  :)

Yammy receivers found at Avant Trinoma:

365 - 18.5k
465 - 24k
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: smitfraud on Dec 14, 2009 at 02:46 AM
Hmm...  Magkano kaya?  :)

Yammy receivers found at Avant Trinoma:

365 - 18.5k
465 - 24k


Sir try mo sa Sight and Sound sa Shangrila, alam ko 16500 lang ung 365 dun.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Rakenrol on Jan 07, 2010 at 02:10 AM
Mga sir,

Ask ko lang opinion nyo Newbie po. What do you do think is better in your experience. Yamaha RXV 357 or RXV 350? I saw this sa website nila. Salamat!

YAHAMA 350
Exceptionally high dynamic power and overall performance with 192kHz/24-bit D/A converters, 21 Surround Programs and 3 digital inputs.
   5.1-channel, 550W powerful surround sound (110W x 5 Max)
   192kHz/24-bit D/A converters for all channels
   Analog mixdown
   Quad-Field and Tri-Field CINEMA DSP
   Dolby Digital EX Matrix 6.1 and DTS-ES Matrix 6.1 compatibility plus Dolby Pro Logic II decoding
   14 surround programs
   Night Listening mode and SILENT CINEMA
   Powerful 32-bit Yamaha LSI (YSS-938) for CINEMA DSP processing
   Easy setup and operation (Basic Menu)
   5-band center graphic equalizer
   Speaker A or B selection
   Wide-range frequency response for DVD-Audio/SA-CD compatibility
   Program name and sound field indications
   6-channel external decoder input
   Preset remote control unit

YAMAHA 357
Powerful 5.1-channel surround sound with Quad-Field CINEMA DSP and many other exclusive Yamaha features for a thoroughly enjoyable home theater experience.
   5-channel 550W powerful surround sound (110W x 5 Max)
   2 component video inputs
   Night Listening Mode and SILENT CINEMA
   Dolby Digital/Matrix 6.1 and DTS/Matrix 6.1 compatibility plus Dolby Pro Logic II decoding
   Quad-Field and Tri-Field CINEMA DSP and 14 surround programs
   192kHz/24-bit D/A converters for all channels
   3 digital audio inputs (fixed and assignable)
   Speaker A or B selection
   5-band center graphic equalizer
   Analog mixdown



Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: lakambini on Jan 10, 2010 at 06:07 PM
mga sir,

what is the ideal cd player to be partnered with a yammy receiver?

tnx
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: caboodle19 on Jan 21, 2010 at 01:24 PM
where can I buy ipod dock (model yds-10 or 11) para sa yamaha avr?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wengkapre on Jan 21, 2010 at 01:32 PM
saan po ba may available na yamaha 350?preferrably 2nd hand lang kulang budget e :-[
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: xtrm_2001 on Apr 02, 2010 at 08:25 PM
ano kaya ang match power amp para sa rxv-661
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: moejun on Apr 02, 2010 at 08:36 PM
too bad, i was selling myrxv-350 for 6000 a few months back
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jo_buen88 on Apr 07, 2010 at 08:40 PM
i'm looking for a 2nd hand yamaha receiver,anyone of you na may alam na binebenta.
preferably rxv 1200-1500 model.

thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: matchbox29 on Apr 29, 2010 at 09:03 AM
good day mga sirs!

im trying my luck here. im looking for a remote for my father's rxv530 avr. meron po ba dyan nagbebenta? message me na lang po kung meron at kung magkano.

TIA!! 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: lithium_deuteride on May 08, 2010 at 06:41 PM
This thread is awfully quiet.

Guys who carries Yamaha AVRs and what are the latest models available?  Looking to upgrade from my old reliable RXV1200.  I just want to have the latest DTS & DD lossless sound formats and I'm thinking either HK or Yamaha, the latter having served me well the past 8 years.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Onkyo606 on May 08, 2010 at 07:01 PM
This thread is awfully quiet.

Guys who carries Yamaha AVRs and what are the latest models available?  Looking to upgrade from my old reliable RXV1200.  I just want to have the latest DTS & DD lossless sound formats and I'm thinking either HK or Yamaha, the latter having served me well the past 8 years.  :)

sir john long time no hear from

of the lots you have now, below are some that have good reviews on the net

1. 1065 and 2065
2. 3900
3. AZ7 and AZ11
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: whizkidd on May 24, 2010 at 09:14 AM
Question po sa meron alam. San po makakabili ng Yamaha amp sa davao? Wala kasi ako makita na ganitong amp.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: tambutsoo on Jun 07, 2010 at 06:15 PM
magkano na ang Yamaha RX-V1900 ngayon?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Jun 23, 2010 at 05:16 PM

Soon to be released in the U.S. (maybe next month):

Yamaha 667:

(http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/Images/YEC/AV_Receivers/Main/M_rxv667.jpg)

The power on the 600 series is now back to the traditional 90W at 20Hz to 20kHz, instead of last year's 90W at 1kHz.

Back view: http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/Images/YEC/AV_Receivers/Views/PV_rxv667_Back.jpg



Next up should be a 767 model, according to avsforum discussions.

I'm waiting for a 1067.  But if the price will be too high, I think I'll settle for a 767.

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Jun 24, 2010 at 11:42 PM
First pro review: Yamaha 667


(http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/receivers/yamaha-rx-v667/image_mini)


Yamaha RX-V667 7.2 Channel Digital
Home Theater Receiver First Look

by Gene DellaSala — last modified June 23, 2010

... Last year we wrote a controversial article called "Trading Amplifier Quality for Features".  One of the primary targets of this article was Yamaha and how we felt they compromised amplifier quality too much in their sub $600 receivers to add features, namely the RX-V665.   ...  Enter the new RX-V667, the successor to the RX-V665.  Unlike the RX-V665, the RX-V667 contains all discrete amplifier output stages instead of the lower cost and lower performing op-amp stages found on the RX-V665 and lower 05 series models.


http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/receivers/yamaha-rx-v667
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ditoy_eagle on Jun 24, 2010 at 11:56 PM
Wow nice kelan kaya magkaron nito dito?!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: wengkapre on Jun 25, 2010 at 08:10 AM
Saan po ba may showroom ng yamaha receivers?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: abcerase on Jun 28, 2010 at 08:56 AM
5th ave. has the yamaha 367 na pero ang mahal...18.5k...meron na po ba yun mga PDVD resident sellers po ng ganito or 467?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: b u l l e t on Jul 01, 2010 at 05:23 PM
I'm just wondering to let go may yamaha RXV 1065 and upgrade with higher mdl. It was newly acquired 3 months ago..hhhhmmm think, think and think  ::) anyone interested?? make me reasonable offer.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ment on Jul 02, 2010 at 06:03 AM
how much kaya ang yamaha 667 dito sa atin?

discrete amplification i like it ......
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: knefut on Aug 16, 2010 at 08:46 AM
up natin thread na ito.

available na kaya Yamaha 667?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Aug 16, 2010 at 04:18 PM
May bago pala ang Yamaha, the Aventage series:

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/Aventage/list.html

I like the RX-A1000, but it's too expensive for me.

(http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/Images/YEC/AV_Receivers/Enlarged/PV_rxa1000bl.jpg)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Onkyo606 on Aug 16, 2010 at 04:47 PM
May bago pala ang Yamaha, the Aventage series:

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/Aventage/list.html

I like the RX-A1000, but it's too expensive for me.

(http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/Images/YEC/AV_Receivers/Enlarged/PV_rxa1000bl.jpg)

sorry for the OT, atty barrister i read the specs, almost the same as the Onkyo NR807, you may want to cehck it out mas mura na yata now.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: b u l l e t on Aug 16, 2010 at 05:14 PM
May bago pala ang Yamaha, the Aventage series:

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/Aventage/list.html

I like the RX-A1000, but it's too expensive for me.

(http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/Images/YEC/AV_Receivers/Enlarged/PV_rxa1000bl.jpg)

Nice :o Very clean.
How much kaya?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Aug 16, 2010 at 05:22 PM
How much kaya?

Estimate ko, mga P70K.  Para kang bumili ng plasma TV.


sorry for the OT, atty barrister i read the specs, almost the same as the Onkyo NR807, you may want to cehck it out mas mura na yata now.

Thanks for the tip.  
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: blued888 on Aug 16, 2010 at 07:50 PM
Wow, ganda ng design! Clean and sleek.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Archie on Aug 18, 2010 at 06:06 AM

ano masmaganda, a new yamaha + vintage speakers, or go for a HTIB like LG HT805PM.

vintage speakers are cerwin vega at-15, and polk audio for center.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: AlvinladeN on Aug 18, 2010 at 08:07 AM
after 5 years wala nang nasasagap na am/fm signal ang yamaha receiver ko. pano kaya solution dito?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: b u l l e t on Aug 18, 2010 at 09:25 AM
after 5 years wala nang nasasagap na am/fm signal ang yamaha receiver ko. pano kaya solution dito?

Sir Alvinladen, isa lang ang maganda solution dyan...... upgrade na  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: AlvinladeN on Aug 18, 2010 at 09:57 AM
^hehe

yan na nga din iniisip ko  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: vtec3 on Aug 25, 2010 at 12:47 PM
ok kaya ito RX-V765BL, older model but only $369.21 sa Amazon

(http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/d9/67/6c4e810ae7a05d50f7e30210.L.jpg)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Onkyo606 on Aug 25, 2010 at 01:14 PM
ok kaya ito RX-V765BL, older model but only $369.21 sa Amazon

(http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/d9/67/6c4e810ae7a05d50f7e30210.L.jpg)


brader the yamaha 863 is only a tad higher in cost, if your willing to get this model at 369, you might as well get the 863, thats one hell of a receiver.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: vtec3 on Aug 25, 2010 at 04:01 PM
brader the yamaha 863 is only a tad higher in cost, if your willing to get this model at 369, you might as well get the 863, thats one hell of a receiver.

brader wala palang pre-out ito

(http://images.amazon.com/images/G/01/electronics/detail-page/rxv863rear.jpg)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gunblade977 on Aug 25, 2010 at 04:12 PM
^thanks for the info brader, pati pala rxv665 naka sale na rin sa Amazon :) Pedeng pede na for the price :)

may preout naman ata sa pix .. sa upper middle tabi ng dock.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: monreq on Aug 25, 2010 at 04:12 PM
Hello!  May I ask how much is the cheapest used Yamaha HT DTS/Dolby Digital 5.1, what model? and where to buy?

Thanks. :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: vtec3 on Aug 26, 2010 at 08:02 AM
^thanks for the info brader, pati pala rxv665 naka sale na rin sa Amazon :) Pedeng pede na for the price :)

may preout naman ata sa pix .. sa upper middle tabi ng dock.

tama ka brader may preout nga  :) hala malabo na yata talaga ang mata ko  ;D go go brader bili na  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Clondalkin on Aug 26, 2010 at 08:23 AM
ok kaya ito RX-V765BL, older model but only $369.21 sa Amazon

Hello Von.   You can get the 1065 for $399.   ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Onkyo606 on Aug 26, 2010 at 05:21 PM
Hello Von.   You can get the 1065 for $399.   ;)

now this one is a steal, dont let this pass by sir von ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: vtec3 on Aug 27, 2010 at 10:11 AM
Hello Von.   You can get the 1065 for $399.   ;)

Thanks for the info Alan! Yup this is better than  the 765
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: vtec3 on Aug 27, 2010 at 10:14 AM
now this one is a steal, dont let this pass by sir von ;)

isip pa nang konti  ;D malapit na din ang Black Friday sale baka bumaba pa ng konti eh. Ok pa naman yung Onkyo 705 ko and pagbinenta ko parang bnew condition ito like when i sold my Yamaha 659 ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: statham on Aug 29, 2010 at 11:25 AM
HI ALL,

OK BA YUNG YAMAHA RECEIVER RXV 367? PLANNING TO GET ONE
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: leomarley on Sep 02, 2010 at 09:06 AM
hi guys, what do you think about the RXV-465?

a shop in trinoma is offering me this receiver with Mordaunt-Short Carnival Series 6359 Speaker System for P49900 @ 18mos installment plan. ok na ba 'to?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Sep 02, 2010 at 01:11 PM
hi guys, what do you think about the RXV-465?

OK BA YUNG YAMAHA RECEIVER RXV 367? PLANNING TO GET ONE

Yung mga models below the 600 series, mahina ang power.  Ok lang ang 300 & 400 series if you have a small room. 

But for an average-size room, mas maganda kung at least 600 series ng RX-V (but avoid the 665, it's underpowered).   
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: leomarley on Sep 02, 2010 at 07:07 PM
actually bedroom size lang paglalagyan ko mga around 9x12 feet lang. ok na ba yun?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Sep 04, 2010 at 01:10 AM

Yes, OK na rin. 

Floor area of 12 sq. m. or less is considered a small room.
Title: yamaha RXV340 magkano pa market value?
Post by: jheloz on Sep 08, 2010 at 11:53 PM
itatanong ko lang po sana kong magkano pa kaya pwedeng ibenta tong oldschool a/v Reciever ko.yamaha rxv340 with 5.1 speaker. kulay silver

http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/products/ht/rxv340.html (ftp://http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/av/products/ht/rxv340.html)


newbie  lang po dito sa site..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jheloz on Sep 08, 2010 at 11:58 PM
mga boss magkano pa po kaya pwedeng ibenta tong yamaha receiver ko RXV340 W/ 5.1 Speaker?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: johnfc on Sep 09, 2010 at 12:38 PM
Sir, need your input. Good combo kaya ang Yamaha 1800 avr with B&W 683 speaker? I'm looking for neutral sound. 60% music, 30% movies.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Sep 09, 2010 at 01:09 PM
Sir, need your input. Good combo kaya ang Yamaha 1800 avr with B&W 683 speaker? I'm looking for neutral sound. 60% music, 30% movies.

Try mo bro. :) There's nothing to lose.

Yammies can match with Monitor Audio RX speaks quite well din, daan ka sa Audioworld for a demo. :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: spiro0426 on Sep 15, 2010 at 10:42 AM
Good Day,

Mga sirs, do you have any idea how much is the reselling value of RXV 2200? Im planning to dispose then upgrade my receiver then.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Archie on Oct 03, 2010 at 02:55 AM
mas okay ba ang pioneer vsx-520 kaysa yamaha rx-v367?

 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: johncis on Oct 05, 2010 at 08:04 PM
Good day mga sir!

Tanong ko lang po if ok ba yung RX-V367 na lagyan ng yamaha NS-P110 5.1 speakers?

Thank you po.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: knefut on Oct 06, 2010 at 11:51 AM
^

pwedeng pwede sir!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: johncis on Oct 06, 2010 at 01:24 PM
^

pwedeng pwede sir!

Than you sir sa info.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Archie on Oct 09, 2010 at 10:05 AM
mayroon bang dolby truehd ang yamaha rx-v367 ?

specs sa net hindi consistent.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Dec 06, 2010 at 05:40 PM
New: Yamaha RX-V1067

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4076/4934094117_ffeaf137e9_z.jpg)

1st professional review: http://whathifi.com/Review/Yamaha-RX-V1067/
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: pchin on Dec 06, 2010 at 08:25 PM
Whoa...that's one mean kick-ass receiver!  :o
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: reynold on Dec 09, 2010 at 05:39 PM
Wow, sana sa susunod na receiver upgrade ko, ito na ang ipapalit ko ;)
(kailan kaya yun???) ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Dec 19, 2010 at 06:09 PM

The 1067 does not seem to be available anywhere.

Ok lang siguro, palagay ko sobrang mahal naman ng 1067, huwag na lang.

Baka 767 na lang ang bilhin ko: 

(http://www.home-entertainment-news.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Yamaha-RX-V767.jpg)

P46,000 daw sa 5th Avenue.  Where can I buy it at a lower price?

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: keema on Dec 19, 2010 at 06:23 PM
Sir barrister ano pong counterpart model nyan sa denon? baka lang po alam nyo..

thanks
Christian :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Dec 19, 2010 at 06:45 PM
Counterpart ng Yamaha 767 sa Denon ...

Sa tingin ko ay Denon AVR-2311.  P56,000 sa Shangrila SnS. 

Hindi pa rin masyadong magkatapat.  Yamaha 767's position is somewhere in between Denon 2311 and the next lower Denon 1911.




Pinag-iisipan ko kasi dati ang Denon 2311, medyo natakot lang ako sa Denon dahil sa mga service complaints:




Hello mga peeps,

Yung Denon DVD-1910 ko 4 months na sa Lotteworld hindi pa narerepair hanggang ngayon. Wala pa raw parts for the Optical Head. Grabe naman. Ang mahal mahal ng product nila tapos ganito quality ng service.  >:(


...  Grrrrrrrr!!!! Not sure what are the next steps to take. I am thinking of getting in touch with the Manager/Owner of Lotteworld to get a better explanation for this unfortunate incident. But I don't like the idea that I will end up getting a big paper weight from them when it was working almost perfectly when I sent it.

Digital input and analog input not working...WTF!!!...what am I supposed to do with an AVR that doesn't have any input/output capability!...

Actually, it's not uncommon to hear complaints about Lotteworld. At the minimum, mabagal sila. At worst, you're not sure about their competence.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fattyacid on Dec 20, 2010 at 04:00 PM
Willing to buy a Yahama avr here, basta not so old with hdmi inputs. Para sa mga gustong mag upgrade..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Dec 21, 2010 at 01:52 PM
would the rx-v367 be enough for a 18x9 bedroom? i'm still deciding if i should get this or the pioneer vsx 420. i like the rx v367's ability to get audio signals from the hdmi as the pioneer vsx needs to use separate optical/coaxial inputs, so less wiring to hassle with.

o and san ba pinaka mura makakabili ng yamaha rx-v367? thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Dec 22, 2010 at 09:27 PM
(http://www.audioholics.com/buying-guides/product-awards-and-gift-guides/2010-audioholics-poy/image_mini)

Product of the Year Awards, Audioholics 2010:

- AV Receiver: Yamaha Aventage

- Subwoofer: SVS PB12-Plus

- Blu-ray Player: LG

http://www.audioholics.com/buying-guides/product-awards-and-gift-guides/2010-audioholics-poy
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Dec 23, 2010 at 03:40 PM
(http://www.home-entertainment-news.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Yamaha-RX-V767.jpg)

I finally got the Yamaha 767.  P41K at 5th Avenue Shangrila.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: keema on Dec 23, 2010 at 03:49 PM
Meaning po ba na pati ung Aventage A1000 eh AV receiver of the year din? or the award specifically points only to the A3000?


@Barrister ganda naman nyang bago mong Yamaha receiver!  :) merry xmas..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Dec 23, 2010 at 04:23 PM
Aventage A3000 lang yung binigyan ng product of the year award, sir.

Thanks, bossing.  Pero mahina yata ang benta ng Yamaha ngayon, ang hirap kasi hanapin ng higher models ... Denon ang sikat na sikat these days, eh.

Merry Xmas!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: pchin on Dec 23, 2010 at 07:20 PM
Congrat barrister....just in time for Christmas. I'm sure you will enjoy it very much. ;)

Merry Christmas! :D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Dec 23, 2010 at 07:41 PM
Thanks!

Merry Christmas sir!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: keema on Dec 23, 2010 at 07:58 PM
sir barrister..may A1000 po ba dun sa pinag bilan nyo ng yamaha mo?


Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Dec 23, 2010 at 08:03 PM
Wala pa sir.  Maybe eventually, but not yet.  

5th Avenue na nga ang exclusive importer ng Yamaha, pero nang tinanong ko yung Aventage line, none of them knew what the hell I was talking about, unfortunately  :P.  

1067 nga sana ang gusto ko, pero 767 lang ang highest model.  

Good power starts with the 600 series, so 667 and 767 should both be good.  Meron sa 5th Avenue ng 667 and 767.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Dec 26, 2010 at 02:02 PM
Yamaha RX-A3000 Aventage 11.2 Networking A/V Receiver Review
by Clint DeBoer — last modified December 23, 2010

(http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/receivers/rx-a3000/image_mini)

... This year Yamaha announced its Aventage (RX-A) line and, in the process, jumped over a lot of the competition. And not a little jump, more like an Olympic gold medal long jump. Much of that jump is simply in the way of value – we mean the Aventage line in general has build quality and features that seem like it should cost a lot more than it does. The RX-A3000 takes that to the 'nth' degree. ...

... The Yamaha RX-A3000 handedly exceeded its 140wpc power rating continuously with two channels driven and stomped out an impressive 236wpc both channels driven into 4 ohms; and that’s a full power bandwidth measurement (20Hz to 20kHz at 0.1% THD + N).  It proved to be every bit as powerful as their more expensive RX-Z7 model.


http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/receivers/rx-a3000
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: keema on Dec 26, 2010 at 02:49 PM
@ barrister,

kamusta po ung bago nyong receiver? noticeable po ba ung pagkakaiba dun sa dati nyo?


salamatpo
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Dec 26, 2010 at 03:29 PM
Bagong setup pa lang ang 767 ko sir, hindi ko pa masyadong nate-test.  

But so far, yung sound ay parang pareho lang ng binenta kong RX-V657 (both are rated at 95W, 20Hz-20kHz).  Ang improvement ay yung smaller size and lighter weight ng unit, while delivering the same audio power and performance of the 657.  

Same sound performance is good news for me, actually.  I was worried that too many additional features would cause the manufacturer to cheap out on amp power, making the sound weaker than the old models.  Fortunately, ayos na ayos naman ang sound.

Kung ang sound ay parang pareho lang so far para sa akin, yung features naman ay malaki talaga ang improvement.  

Of course, may lossless audio capability na ito.  On-screen GUI is very nice and very convenient for the user.  "Scene" function on the remote is also a great convenience, para may one-touch default setting that was customized by the user.  YPAO has more options: microphone location can be from 1 to 8 positions; and there are 4 PEQ settings including manually adjustable PEQ.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: timtim15 on Dec 27, 2010 at 09:58 AM
Good morning!

Just a newbie question regarding connecting a passive sub to a yamaha amplifier. is this possible?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Dec 27, 2010 at 12:39 PM
Yes, it's possible.  

If the sub has outputs, use the receiver's front left and right speaker level out, wire to the sub's left and right speaker level in, wire the sub's left and right speaker level out, connect to left and right front speakers.  

Don't expect the sound to improve by much.  The sound might even worsen, actually.  

For me, if you can only connect a passive sub, it would be better not to connect a sub at all.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: timtim15 on Dec 27, 2010 at 12:52 PM
Thanks for the reply sir barrister. Actually the passive sub I have is the Canton Plus C and I dont think I would go to the route of connecting multiple wires to the sub. (in short nose bleed)

Maybe purchasing an active sub would be a better option for me.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Dec 27, 2010 at 12:56 PM
That's the better option.

Passive subs are so 1990's ...  ;)

A passive sub would only worsen the sound quality of the fronts, because the sub would rob the main speakers of much-needed power.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: timtim15 on Dec 27, 2010 at 12:58 PM
any recommendation for active sub? friendly on the budget and sounds good on the yammy?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Dec 27, 2010 at 01:02 PM
Active subwoofers do not need to be matched with receivers.

I have a Klipsch subwoofer, purchased in 2007.  Pretty good during its time; better than Velodyne.

But these days, SVS subwoofer is king.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: timtim15 on Dec 27, 2010 at 01:08 PM
yep SVS it is but these are several factors hindering me to purchase one:

- budget
- space (i live in a small house)

so I think I would be better of with budget friendly subs with thump and ommpphh less bells and whistles.

 ;D

btw, how's the new 767?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Dec 27, 2010 at 02:28 PM
yep SVS it is but these are several factors hindering me to purchase one:

- budget
- space (i live in a small house)

so I think I would be better of with budget friendly subs with thump and ommpphh less bells and whistles.

 ;D

With audio, the rule is that high frequency is cheap, but low frequency is very expensive.  If subwoofer budget is a concern, compromise cannot be avoided.  

Try a low-priced sub, such as:  

Wharfedale SW150 http://www.whathifi.com/Review/Wharfedale-Diamond-SW150/

Polk audio PSW110 http://hometheaterreview.com/polk-psw110-powered-subwoofer-reviewed/

Mirage http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,118652.0.html

Performance will be reasonable, but not amazing.



btw, how's the new 767?

Good power, good sound.  Easy to set up and easy to use.

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: timtim15 on Dec 27, 2010 at 02:37 PM
With audio, the rule is that high frequency is cheap, but low frequency is very expensive.  If subwoofer budget is a concern, compromise cannot be avoided.  

point well taken. guess will have to wait for that good deal.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Dec 27, 2010 at 06:09 PM
It seems that bi-amp support using surround back channels is now common on many receivers.

After googling all afternoon about bi-amping's supposed benefits, I've finally decided.  No bi-amping for me.  Using a receiver's bi-amping option will not produce improvement due to the absence of an active crossover.  



Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: keema on Jan 02, 2011 at 08:20 PM
Guys, does the Yamaha RX-V1067 (uk) and the Yamaha Aventage RX-A1000 (US) are the same receivers?

U.S. version has fifth foot in the middle and it has the word Aventage written on the top right in front.

Specs wise, both look the same...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: airnolds on Jan 02, 2011 at 09:06 PM
Yamaha Peeps!

Just purchased a RX-V467 last Friday... Everything works so far... Couple of questions lang..

Can i use my WII [using Composite/Component] on the Receiver AND use the HDMI Out to connect it to my Projector?

I tried this a while ago, nag-appear lang sya sa PJ ko when i used the Yellow RCA Plug...x_x

Thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gaol on Jan 02, 2011 at 10:02 PM
Yamaha Peeps!

Just purchased a RX-V467 last Friday... Everything works so far... Couple of questions lang..

Can i use my WII [using Composite/Component] on the Receiver AND use the HDMI Out to connect it to my Projector?

I tried this a while ago, nag-appear lang sya sa PJ ko when i used the Yellow RCA Plug...x_x

Thanks!

Check your manual if the RX-V467 allows for video conversion from component video input to HDMI output and if there's a setting you need to, well, set. Like Denon, the Yamaha's higher-end models I'm pretty sure allows for very flexible video conversion options, but I'm not so sure if the entry-level models like the RX-V467 have the same flexibility.

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Jan 02, 2011 at 10:51 PM
Guys, does the Yamaha RX-V1067 (uk) and the Yamaha Aventage RX-A1000 (US) are the same receivers?

U.S. version has fifth foot in the middle and it has the word Aventage written on the top right in front.

Specs wise, both look the same...


Definitely different receivers coming from different series.

RX-V1067 comes from the mid-end RX-V line.  RX-A1000 comes from the high-end and very expensive Aventage line.





Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: airnolds on Jan 03, 2011 at 08:08 AM
@gaol

Thanks! will check my manual/internet if my AV is capable of video conversion.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: airnolds on Jan 03, 2011 at 08:37 AM
Aw,

RX-V467 is not capable of Analog-to-Digital Conversion...T_T..

Anyone knows where to buy 7-8meters of Component Cable?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fattyacid on Jan 03, 2011 at 01:41 PM
Whats the best speakers to complement this fine AVR?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: pchin on Jan 03, 2011 at 01:44 PM
Willing to buy a Yahama avr here, basta not so old with hdmi inputs. Para sa mga gustong mag upgrade..

Hope you will able to find a suitable unit that will meet your requirement.

Good hunting bro. ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: keema on Jan 03, 2011 at 03:54 PM

Definitely different receivers coming from different series.

RX-V1067 comes from the mid-end RX-V line.  RX-A1000 comes from the high-end and very expensive Aventage line.


specs wise, backpanel and front panel looks very similar. kaya lang naisip ko na baka pareho lang..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Jan 03, 2011 at 09:53 PM
Ganun ba?  I tried comparing ... oo nga ano ...  :-[  

I think you're right.  5th foot lang nga yata ang difference ...  :P

After some googling, the only other differences I can find are those unrelated to design/specs ...  for the Aventage: 2 years longer warranty, and an iPod/iPhone dock is included.  

It looks like you're really right ...  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Jan 04, 2011 at 02:34 PM
Proud owner of the RXV657 from sir Barrister,
had only a few hours of usage pa lang coz nagkasakit ang daughter ko,
huge improvement on the sound quality as well as the power on all channels,
it was a huge step from an RXV592 to the RXV657...

We got home yesterday, and later, my room will definitely rock...!

Cheers everyone...
ABC
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: keema on Jan 05, 2011 at 06:23 PM
Ganun ba?  I tried comparing ... oo nga ano ...  :-[  

I think you're right.  5th foot lang nga yata ang difference ...  :P

After some googling, the only other differences I can find are those unrelated to design/specs ...  for the Aventage: 2 years longer warranty, and an iPod/iPhone dock is included.  

It looks like you're really right ...  ;D

@ barrister,

kaya ko lang natanong kse nasa shop ako dito sa abu dhabi..at nakita ko toh...tinanong ko ung salesman about sa aventage series at wala syang alam..so baka UK version ito ng aventage minus the fifth foot at yung logo na aventage sa harap..:P

hmm..may nakita din pala akong RX-V1900 luma na ba to na model?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Jan 05, 2011 at 10:29 PM
...tinanong ko ung salesman about sa aventage series at wala syang alam..so baka UK version ito ng aventage minus the fifth foot at yung logo na aventage sa harap..:P

Simple lang kasi ang Yamaha receiver models dati.  Magulo na pala ngayon ang mga series nila.

Eto ang mga models sa Yamaha Asia: http://asia.yamaha.com/en/products/audio-visual/av-receivers-amps/

Low-end: 367, 467, 567.
Mid-end: 667, 767
High-end; 1067, 2067, 3067 (Z7 and Z11 are old).

No Aventage.  Maybe the 1067, 2067 and 3067 are the Asian versions of Aventage 1000, 2000 and 3000.


Eto naman for Yamaha USA: http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/av-receivers-amps/

May 867, pero walang 767.  May Aventage, pero walang 1067, 2067 and 3067.





hmm..may nakita din pala akong RX-V1900 luma na ba to na model?

Medyo luma na sir.  2008 model yan.  http://community.whathifi.com/forums/t/272005.aspx

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Jan 06, 2011 at 04:27 PM
Yamaha Peeps!

Just purchased a RX-V467 last Friday... Everything works so far... Couple of questions lang..

Can i use my WII [using Composite/Component] on the Receiver AND use the HDMI Out to connect it to my Projector?

I tried this a while ago, nag-appear lang sya sa PJ ko when i used the Yellow RCA Plug...x_x

Thanks!
My monitor is connected to my old YAMAHA AVR RXV-863 via HDMI then my VHS player is connected via S-Video to the receiver, actually the video signals from the VHS Player is shown on the monitor, I think (your WII) it should work, Goodluck ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: timtim15 on Jan 10, 2011 at 09:34 AM
can somebody help me how to output 7.1 from a 5.1 source? the Surround Back R/L is not working.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Jan 10, 2011 at 10:12 PM
Anybody knows how much is the RX-V1067? Is this model available now here?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 10, 2011 at 10:16 PM
can somebody help me how to output 7.1 from a 5.1 source? the Surround Back R/L is not working.
check if your receiver has prologic IIx.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 11, 2011 at 12:18 AM
can somebody help me how to output 7.1 from a 5.1 source? the Surround Back R/L is not working.

if the surround back is not activated in the reeiver, it will not work, if its activated, check if there is a NEO or matrix DSP setting and set it there.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: timtim15 on Jan 11, 2011 at 08:23 AM
check if your receiver has prologic IIx.  :)

Yes it has. :)

if the surround back is not activated in the reeiver, it will not work, if its activated, check if there is a NEO or matrix DSP setting and set it there.

its working na. Thanks guys!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: spiro0426 on Jan 19, 2011 at 01:21 PM
Sirs,

Sorry to interrupt discussions on the new yamaha AVR you have now. Im having difficulty using the remote control of my 2005 yamaha AVR. Its RXV 2200. Just want to ask if there's a possibility for me getting/ buying a new remote control for this? Where can i get one, in case?

Thanks a lot.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Jan 19, 2011 at 03:57 PM
Sirs,

Sorry to interrupt discussions on the new yamaha AVR you have now. Im having difficulty using the remote control of my 2005 yamaha AVR. Its RXV 2200. Just want to ask if there's a possibility for me getting/ buying a new remote control for this? Where can i get one, in case?

Thanks a lot.
The easiest way is to get a LOGITECH HARMONY remote, you could just download the equipment model from its database and by no time you'll be enjoying to controll you're AVR again. If you really prefer the YAMAHA brand I think you could get it at the authorized service centers ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 19, 2011 at 09:30 PM
@spiro0426
follow at_sunset_blvd's advice.  baka mas mahal rin kasi ang orig controller or same price ng harmony.
mas marami ka pa magagawa sa harmony  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bachwitz on Jan 21, 2011 at 05:16 AM
The easiest way is to get a LOGITECH HARMONY remote, you could just download the equipment model from its database and by no time you'll be enjoying to controll you're AVR again. If you really prefer the YAMAHA brand I think you could get it at the authorized service centers ;)

How much is Harmony Remote and where can I buy one? Can it do all the functionalities of an original remote? My Yamaha remote conk out and cannot be fixed anymore according to Yamaha service center. An orig replacement is not sure depending upon availability and service center quote me the price of at least P1500. TIA!!!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: chris_santo on Jan 21, 2011 at 03:12 PM
I plan to get the onkyo s3300 htib but i came across someone selling v367. In sm the yamaha speakers are on sale. I plan to get the nsp320 if ever ill be getting the 367. Would the onkyo be a better setup than the 367? By the way 367 + nsp320 would be arround 20k.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 21, 2011 at 10:42 PM
I plan to get the onkyo s3300 htib but i came across someone selling v367. In sm the yamaha speakers are on sale. I plan to get the nsp320 if ever ill be getting the 367. Would the onkyo be a better setup than the 367? By the way 367 + nsp320 would be arround 20k.
mura rin yung yamaha.    :)
kaso no HD codecs.  best thing to do talaga is audition.   ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: vortex1 on Jan 22, 2011 at 08:07 AM
yup from RX-V465 and up lang merun Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio audio formats.

ask ko lang how much ang 465 sa market ngayun?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: airnolds on Jan 22, 2011 at 11:09 AM
@at_sunset

Unfortunately, it doesn't do "analog-to-digital" conversion..already got a 10meter Cable..^_^

@all

What's the cheapest Yamaha Receiver that has Analog-to-digital conversion?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Jan 22, 2011 at 03:31 PM

For the current models (2010), the 467 is the lowest model that can convert analog video to digital.
 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: chris_santo on Jan 23, 2011 at 07:27 AM
Noob question, pwede ko ba ikabit temporarily yung HTIB speakers ko sa V367? 4 ohms and 15w yung sattelites.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Jan 23, 2011 at 10:19 AM

Puwede naman, but you risk overheating the receiver.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: chris_santo on Jan 24, 2011 at 01:07 PM
Sulit na ba yung 2nd hand 367 for 13k? Balak ko kasi bilhin.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Jan 24, 2011 at 05:55 PM
How much is Harmony Remote and where can I buy one? Can it do all the functionalities of an original remote? My Yamaha remote conk out and cannot be fixed anymore according to Yamaha service center. An orig replacement is not sure depending upon availability and service center quote me the price of at least P1500. TIA!!!
You could choose a variety of LOGITECH HARMONY Remotes depending on your choice for the functionality  you would need like how many equipments you want to control. You could check out their website for various models & there are some also in the Marketplace here under the  Home Theater Accessories Thread, there's also one in the DVD MERCHANTS Thread sold by Sir ANYA. Goodluck ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: marrquez on Feb 04, 2011 at 11:28 AM
Sulit na ba yung 2nd hand 367 for 13k? Balak ko kasi bilhin.

mine is rxv650 P10,000.00 only.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Feb 04, 2011 at 11:34 AM
How much is Harmony Remote and where can I buy one? Can it do all the functionalities of an original remote? My Yamaha remote conk out and cannot be fixed anymore according to Yamaha service center. An orig replacement is not sure depending upon availability and service center quote me the price of at least P1500. TIA!!!

This might come in handy,...
 
http://www.remotes.com/remotes/servlet/rs?a=Display&contents=home&smodel=RM-TD109A&brand_pn=SONY_RM-TD109A&o=c&uuid=A12967951259531&uuid=A12967951265631

Though I never use the original remotes of my units,
setting up the Harmony to do all of the activities is simply very handy...
When I prefer to use the BD player, it will automatically switch on all the
equipments needed for that, and same goes with my other gadgets...

Anyhow, hope the link above helps...

ABC
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Feb 04, 2011 at 12:29 PM
Sulit na ba yung 2nd hand 367 for 13k? Balak ko kasi bilhin.

Mura na din, afterall recent model siya. As long as hindi mo kailangan ng HD Audio decoding or YPAO.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ASuL on Feb 16, 2011 at 09:50 AM
how many input connections does the 659 have?

2 coaxials
1 optical

tama ba?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: paolorenzo on Feb 16, 2011 at 06:33 PM
how many input connections does the 659 have?

2 coaxials
1 optical

tama ba?

Based on Yamaha USA site:

Inputs:
4 optical
2 coaxial

Output:
1 optical

http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/hifi-components/stereo-receivers/rx-v659_black__u/?mode=model

Pero check ko yung unit sa bahay.  Alam mo naman, talamak ang racial discrimination ;D at ang Asian units are stripped down versions.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ASuL on Feb 16, 2011 at 07:39 PM
thanks...paolo

can't wait for saturday  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sandbox51ph on Feb 18, 2011 at 04:13 AM
Sir, need your help on my Yamaha AVR. I can't run the FM radio on the AVR since I lost the Antenna wire what can I use to substitute the lost wire? or where is the original wire available?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 08, 2011 at 01:14 PM
I have a yamaha noob question, whats the Parametric Equalizer for in a non technical explanation? What does that thing do?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Apr 08, 2011 at 01:42 PM
I have a yamaha noob question, whats the Parametric Equalizer for in a non technical explanation? What does that thing do?

It varies from model to model. Some models have manually adjustable PEQs, while others just have it available for YPAO use.

The former models (upper range units and older units) allow you to manually select frequencies and q factors to attenuate or boost, aside from being available for automated YPAO duty (very old units don't have automated YPAO though). The latter models (mid-level and entry-level units) only apply YPAO when Parametric EQ is selected (these units only have a Graphic EQ for manual use).
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Apr 08, 2011 at 03:23 PM
I have a yamaha noob question, whats the Parametric Equalizer for in a non technical explanation? What does that thing do?

More simplified:

An equalizer adjusts frequencies in a given signal.  The simplest one is a tone control adjustment.

More advanced is the one with separate adjustments for bass and treble.  Even more advanced is a graphic equalizer, which typically allows adjustments for 5 to 10 frequencies.

The most advanced is the parametric equalizer, which provides the most accuracy by allowing adjustments to 3 parameters: amplitude, center frequency, and bandwidth ("Q").

What does parametric equalization do?

Your listening room changes the original sound as recorded on the video disc.  To compensate for a listening rooom's deficient design, parametric equalization adjusts the sound so that what you hear is as close to the original quality as possible.  
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Cosmic79 on Apr 08, 2011 at 05:36 PM
Sir, need your help on my Yamaha AVR. I can't run the FM radio on the AVR since I lost the Antenna wire what can I use to substitute the lost wire? or where is the original wire available?

In my Yamaha AVR I did not use the antenna that came with it. I just bought a TV/FM antenna at Ace Hardware which works well with the Radio. Just make sure the antenna you're buying offers FM reception as not all antennas provide this.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 08, 2011 at 06:57 PM
More simplified:

An equalizer adjusts frequencies in a given signal.  The simplest one is a tone control adjustment.

More advanced is the one with separate adjustments for bass and treble.  Even more advanced is a graphic equalizer, which typically allows adjustments for 5 to 10 frequencies.

The most advanced is the parametric equalizer, which provides the most accuracy by allowing adjustments to 3 parameters: amplitude, center frequency, and bandwidth ("Q").

What does parametric equalization do?

Your listening room changes the original sound as recorded on the video disc.  To compensate for a listening rooom's deficient design, parametric equalization adjusts the sound so that what you hear is as close to the original quality as possible.  


Thanks Barrister so my Yamaha has the Advance parametric equalizer because i can change the amplitude, center frequency and bandwidth. So there is 3 settings i can change though i understand now what that P. Equalizer do i just dont know what the correct value to put in to those 3 settings.. or should i trial and listend...THere's about 7 channels of setting i can change becuase may kanya kanyang parametric equalizer per channel.... Or i'll just let it be ha ha ha... Pero sayang kasi may setting na ganun tapos di ko magamit...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Apr 08, 2011 at 08:45 PM
You have a Yamaha 2600?  Malakas yan sir, yanig ang upuan mo diyan ...  :o


Thanks Barrister so my Yamaha has the Advance parametric equalizer because i can change the amplitude, center frequency and bandwidth. So there is 3 settings i can change though i understand now what that P. Equalizer do i just dont know what the correct value to put in to those 3 settings..

On Yamaha, Parametric Equalization (PEQ) can be performed automatically or manually.

PEQ is applied automatically by running YPAO (Yamaha Parametric Room Acoustic Optimizer) with the included microphone.

PEQ is applied manually by going through the menu and adjusting the 3 parameters (Gain, Frequency and Q factor) individually.

First, you apply PEQ automatically with YPAO, then you use the resulting equalization as a starting point for tweaking the PEQ manually.

My advice --- Just run YPAO to set PEQ automatically.  Check volume levels, distances, frequencies, speaker size, etc. for any obvious errors, and tweak manually.  Then stop there.  

Don't attempt to tweak the PEQ manually.  It's too complicated.  Sayang na ang pagod, masisira pa ang ulo mo :D.  


    
... i just dont know what the correct value to put in to those 3 settings.. or should i trial and listend...THere's about 7 channels of setting i can change becuase may kanya kanyang parametric equalizer per channel.... Or i'll just let it be ha ha ha... Pero sayang kasi may setting na ganun tapos di ko magamit...


Just listen and adjust?  I don't think that's possible.  

To tweak PEQ manually, you'll need a microphone and an SPL meter connected to a laptop with soundcard and software that will plot a graph for you.  The graph will be the basis for tweaking the receiver's PEQ manually.

Pag basta listen and adjust, I think you'll end up with worse sound than you started with.

That's why my recommendation is: Don't attempt to adjust PEQ manually.

But if you feel like you want to learn how to do it, I'm not the right guy to ask, because I don't know how either ;D.  I just googled about it, then I figured it wasn't worth the effort and gave up ...  :(
  



Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 08, 2011 at 08:54 PM
You have a Yamaha 2600?  Malakas yan sir, yanig ang upuan mo diyan ...  :o


On Yamaha, Parametric Equalization (PEQ) can be performed automatically or manually.

PEQ is applied automatically by running YPAO (Yamaha Parametric Room Acoustic Optimizer) with the included microphone.

PEQ is applied manually by going through the menu and adjusting the 3 paramters (Gain, Frequency and Q factor) individually.

First, you apply PEQ automatically with YPAO, then you use the resulting equalization as a starting point for tweaking the PEQ manually.

My advice --- Just run YPAO to set PEQ automatically.  Check volume levels, distances, frequencies, speaker size, etc. for any obvious errors, and tweak manually.  Then stop there.  

Don't attempt to tweak the PEQ manually.  It's too complicated.  Sayang na ang pagod, masisira pa ang ulo mo :D.  


    

Just listen and adjust?  I don't think that's possible.  

To tweak PEQ manually, you'll need special equipment connected to a laptop with soundcard and software that will plot a graph for you.  The graph will be the basis for tweaking the receiver's PEQ manually.

Pag basta listen and adjust, I think you'll end up with worse sound than you started with.

That's why my recommendation is: Don't attempt to adjust PEQ manually.

But if you feel like you want to learn how to do it, I'm not the right guy to ask, because I don't know how either ;D.  I just googled about it, then I figured it wasn't worth the effort and gave up ...  :(
  





Thanks sir for the Info... I gave up also he he he... Shucks kanina pa naman pinag pare pareho ko yung value nang left at right speakers ha ha ha syet gagamit na lang nga ako nang YPAO thing he he...

Thanks again sir.. and for the others who answered my query..... ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Cosmic79 on Apr 09, 2011 at 11:30 AM
@Courage
Yung friend ko also has a Yamaha 2600 and was able to listen to it. Music and movies sounded very good and has good clarity. I think this is one of the best Yamaha receivers. In movies it has that thunderous booming bass.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 10, 2011 at 07:27 AM
@Courage
Yung friend ko also has a Yamaha 2600 and was able to listen to it. Music and movies sounded very good and has good clarity. I think this is one of the best Yamaha receivers. In movies it has that thunderous booming bass.


Yup I agree to that, this right now is my receiver...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackdee on Apr 10, 2011 at 09:20 AM
just hookup my DSP-A1

wala akong masabi napaka relax talaga si A1
unlike my previous avr (RXV-1500) bigyan mo pa db para lumabas yung SQ at uminit pa

si A1 parang wala lang, 9 o'clock ang level volume ko swabe na swabe si FS
parang nakatingin sakin si A1 at parang may sinasabi bigyan mo pa db men.
at napa isip ako wag na baka si FS ma puyat.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

bangis ni A1 sumakit likod ko sa kakabuhat. (general cleaning kasi)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 10, 2011 at 09:43 AM
just hookup my DSP-A1

wala akong masabi napaka relax talaga si A1
unlike my previous avr (RXV-1500) bigyan mo pa db para lumabas yung SQ at uminit pa

si A1 parang wala lang, 9 o'clock ang level volume ko swabe na swabe si FS
parang nakatingin sakin si A1 at parang may sinasabi bigyan mo pa db men.
at napa isip ako wag na baka si FS ma puyat.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

bangis ni A1 sumakit likod ko sa kakabuhat. (general cleaning kasi)


Congrats sir.. Thats one mean receiver you have there....
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: buzzworth on Apr 10, 2011 at 09:48 AM
 :)
just hookup my DSP-A1

wal broa akong masabi napaka relax talaga si A1
unlike my previous avr (RXV-1500) bigyan mo pa db para lumabas yung SQ at uminit pa

si A1 parang wala lang, 9 o'clock ang level volume ko swabe na swabe si FS
parang nakatingin sakin si A1 at parang may sinasabi bigyan mo pa db men.
at napa isip ako wag na baka si FS ma puyat.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

bangis ni A1 sumakit likod ko sa kakabuhat. (general cleaning kasi)

bro huwag na ipaalala kung paano tumunog ung dsp-a1, nakaka inngit eh. Again congrats and maski ako sumakit ang likod ng ipa ship ko yan. Kung may budget lang talaga hindi na nakarating sa PDVD yan.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 10, 2011 at 03:03 PM
:) bro huwag na ipaalala kung paano tumunog ung dsp-a1, nakaka inngit eh. Again congrats and maski ako sumakit ang likod ng ipa ship ko yan. Kung may budget lang talaga hindi na nakarating sa PDVD yan.

Receiver mo ba dati yung na kay jackdee ngayon?

How could you let go of such powerful amp he he he.... how could you???? he he he
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: buzzworth on Apr 10, 2011 at 03:54 PM
 :)actually hindi sa akin, sa tropa ko, inalok lang sa akin. And since walang budget I need to let it go amd post it here, nag stay sa akin ung amp ng 5 days and it did bring out beautiful sounds sa kahit anong speaker na ikabit ko. Kung meron lang budget o kaya HDMI, malabong pakawalan ko yan.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: supermanster on Apr 12, 2011 at 08:42 PM
Good evening mga Sir, Inquire lang regarding yamahas AVR, saw some models at Rob. Pioneers.

Here are some models and Prices;

RXV-463 - 20K
RXV-367 - 18.5K
RXV-467 - 25K

Im very new to this Audio/Video world and matagal na din akong nagpplanong set-up mainly for music listening and some Movie Watching. Plano ko lang muna is 2 speakers.

Baka pwede pagpayuhan nyo ako kung anung magandang model, mga feedbacks regarding sa mga models above. At baka may conuterpart sya na better sa ibang brand? Salamats
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackdee on Apr 12, 2011 at 08:53 PM
rxv-463 bro.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Apr 13, 2011 at 07:02 PM
just hookup my DSP-A1

wala akong masabi napaka relax talaga si A1
unlike my previous avr (RXV-1500) bigyan mo pa db para lumabas yung SQ at uminit pa

si A1 parang wala lang, 9 o'clock ang level volume ko swabe na swabe si FS
parang nakatingin sakin si A1 at parang may sinasabi bigyan mo pa db men.
at napa isip ako wag na baka si FS ma puyat.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

bangis ni A1 sumakit likod ko sa kakabuhat. (general cleaning kasi)

Congratz on your A1 Sir Jack, ganda talagang AVR nato ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Apr 14, 2011 at 07:03 AM
Good evening mga Sir, Inquire lang regarding yamahas AVR, saw some models at Rob. Pioneers.

Here are some models and Prices;

RXV-463 - 20K
RXV-367 - 18.5K
RXV-467 - 25K

Im very new to this Audio/Video world and matagal na din akong nagpplanong set-up mainly for music listening and some Movie Watching. Plano ko lang muna is 2 speakers.

Baka pwede pagpayuhan nyo ako kung anung magandang model, mga feedbacks regarding sa mga models above. At baka may conuterpart sya na better sa ibang brand? Salamats

The RX-V467 supports HD Audio, and the other two do not (if that matters to you).

Check out the following units as well (comparable pricing):
Onkyo TX-SR508 / 509
Pioneer VSX-820-K
Denon AVR-1611
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Cosmic79 on Apr 18, 2011 at 10:14 AM
Good evening mga Sir, Inquire lang regarding yamahas AVR, saw some models at Rob. Pioneers.

Here are some models and Prices;

RXV-463 - 20K
RXV-367 - 18.5K
RXV-467 - 25K

Im very new to this Audio/Video world and matagal na din akong nagpplanong set-up mainly for music listening and some Movie Watching. Plano ko lang muna is 2 speakers.

Baka pwede pagpayuhan nyo ako kung anung magandang model, mga feedbacks regarding sa mga models above. At baka may conuterpart sya na better sa ibang brand? Salamats

My opinion, RXV-467 would be the better choice. Both RXV463 and 347 are made in China while yung 467 is made in Malaysia. The Yamahas made in Malaysia have cooler amps and does not emit that much heat compared to those from China. The 463 is already phased out while 367 is still not yet 3D ready. 467 is 3D ready and has provisions for an iPod dock, and to make it 7.1 channel. This is what the Yamaha sales staff told me.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jcarlos0910 on May 11, 2011 at 09:14 PM
mga sirs, tanong ko lang kung sino sa inyo may experience na magpa-repair ng yamaha receiver (rx-465)?
yun sa akin kasi ayaw gumana ng HDMI input/output. Dinala ko sa authorized repair shop sa Lipa, Batangas.
ang sabi sira daw yun HDMI board and ang overall cost ng repar is P16K.. Sobrang mahal para na ko bumili ng bagong units.. Need your inputs kung saan may reliable shop na pwede magpa-repair
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arcbodom on May 16, 2011 at 02:20 PM
My minana akong yamaha reciever from erpats, yamaha HTR 5280, ang bili nya ata dati $600 dollars ata, tagal na nun, madami po xang inputs, eto un pic ng likod
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51hCqU0sIML._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
baka meron pang ibang naging owner ng ganitong model d2, ano kaya difference ng sound nito sa mga bagong yamaha recievers, wala pa kc ako nadalang ibang model ng yamaha AVR sa bahay.

Discrete power transistors rather than IC chips are used in the amplifier section to provide the cleanest sound possible. The amp deliver 100 watts each to five channels. 33lbs

so far satisfied naman po ako sa SQ nya, nacurious lng po ako sa difference ng SQ nito compared to newer models given the same audio source and speakers.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Cosmic79 on May 16, 2011 at 06:14 PM
mga sirs, tanong ko lang kung sino sa inyo may experience na magpa-repair ng yamaha receiver (rx-465)?
yun sa akin kasi ayaw gumana ng HDMI input/output. Dinala ko sa authorized repair shop sa Lipa, Batangas.
ang sabi sira daw yun HDMI board and ang overall cost ng repar is P16K.. Sobrang mahal para na ko bumili ng bagong units.. Need your inputs kung saan may reliable shop na pwede magpa-repair

Try to get a second opinion from other repair centers kahit hindi Yamaha authorized dealer. Ask for a breakdown on why and how they arrived at php16k. My friend had a broken laptop and the repair shop said the logicboard needs to be replaced at a cost of php27k. He got a second opinion from another repair center and the broken parts was just the LCD and the videocard and he only spent php7k so naka save sya ng gastos.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: lrdcly on May 26, 2011 at 06:00 AM
hello. guys, may idea ba kayo kung magkano rx-v667 ngayon? ayos din ba pair yamaha and wharfedale? thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Cosmic79 on May 26, 2011 at 07:17 AM
hello. guys, may idea ba kayo kung magkano rx-v667 ngayon? ayos din ba pair yamaha and wharfedale? thanks

Months back I inquired at 5th Avenue for the RXv667. By order basis daw sya. Estimated price mga php38k to 40k. They only have the RXv567 which was at php33k to 35k. Try mo inquire din sa Super Manufacturing sa del monte ave.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: lrdcly on May 26, 2011 at 03:15 PM
Months back I inquired at 5th Avenue for the RXv667. By order basis daw sya. Estimated price mga php38k to 40k. They only have the RXv567 which was at php33k to 35k. Try mo inquire din sa Super Manufacturing sa del monte ave.

ang mahal pala dito..hehe thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ABCmotorparts on May 26, 2011 at 03:25 PM
It has always been always been cheap to buy electronics abroad,
particularly sa US, ang problema mo lang ay ang pagpapa-uwi...

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: lrdcly on May 26, 2011 at 04:13 PM
papabili ko na lang sa cuz ko sa states. hindi ko kaya yung presyo pag dito ako bibili.hehe ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ABCmotorparts on May 26, 2011 at 04:20 PM
papabili ko na lang sa cuz ko sa states. hindi ko kaya yung presyo pag dito ako bibili.hehe ;D

Good for you,...

I buy all my gadgets sa US and have my wife bring it home, masyadong malaki ang price difference dito and sa US, whether it be AVRs, BD players and other gadgets...
TV lang ang hindi ko maipauwi at masyadong malaki,...

Good luck...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: batanglambak on Jun 08, 2011 at 04:20 PM
Saan po pwede magpagawa ng Yamaha DSP-A1?  Mahina po yung sound ng Left, Center at Right channels.  Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: coolswitch on Jun 10, 2011 at 09:22 AM
Good for you,...

I buy all my gadgets sa US and have my wife bring it home, masyadong malaki ang price difference dito and sa US, whether it be AVRs, BD players and other gadgets...
TV lang ang hindi ko maipauwi at masyadong malaki,...

Good luck...


chief,

May additional tax ba na binabayaran kapag nagpauwi from US?

Nagpapabili kasi ako nito sa Pinsan ko, either sa baggage or kapag nagpa Air Freight sya eh

Yamaha RX-V371 (http://"http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/av-receivers-amps/rx/rx-v371_black__u/?mode=model#tab=product_lineup") <-- click for specs

(http://data.yamaha.jp/sdb/local/products/images/21791/12073/21791_12073_1.jpg)(http://data.yamaha.jp/sdb/local/products/images/21792/12075/21792_12075_1.jpg)

Nakasulat sa features:
HD Audio format decoding: Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio; Dolby Digital Plus and DTS-HD High Resolution Audio

question: Magkakaissue ba sa decoding nung usual dd/dts or wala?

TIA
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Jun 10, 2011 at 02:21 PM

Nakasulat sa features:
HD Audio format decoding: Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio; Dolby Digital Plus and DTS-HD High Resolution Audio

question: Magkakaissue ba sa decoding nung usual dd/dts or wala?

TIA

Dapat hindi siya issue, dahil supported din nya yung older formats.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Jun 10, 2011 at 02:24 PM
chief,

May additional tax ba na binabayaran kapag nagpauwi from US?

Nagpapabili kasi ako nito sa Pinsan ko, either sa baggage or kapag nagpa Air Freight sya eh

Yamaha RX-V371 (http://"http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/av-receivers-amps/rx/rx-v371_black__u/?mode=model#tab=product_lineup") <-- click for specs

(http://data.yamaha.jp/sdb/local/products/images/21791/12073/21791_12073_1.jpg)(http://data.yamaha.jp/sdb/local/products/images/21792/12075/21792_12075_1.jpg)

Nakasulat sa features:
HD Audio format decoding: Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio; Dolby Digital Plus and DTS-HD High Resolution Audio

question: Magkakaissue ba sa decoding nung usual dd/dts or wala?

TIA

Haven't been taxed, not even once,...
From the first DVD player I bought nuon sa US way back the late 90s,
up to last year yata ng ipauwi ko ang BD player ko,...

Cheers sir...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: coolswitch on Jun 10, 2011 at 02:44 PM
@Stagea | ABCmotorparts

Thanks for the inputs. Go ko na ito.... kaso nakakainip mag-antay hehehe

@ABCmotorparts
follow up question, carry in ba or airfreight yung mode of transportation nung item ang gawa nyo?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Jun 10, 2011 at 02:46 PM
@Stagea | ABCmotorparts

Thanks for the inputs. Go ko na ito.... kaso nakakainip mag-antay hehehe

@ABCmotorparts
follow up question, carry in ba or airfreight yung mode of transportation nung item ang gawa nyo?

Nasa balikbayan box na kasama nyang umuwi,...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: j0hans0n on Jul 12, 2011 at 07:05 PM
Hey guys,

I have an rxv357 receiver, connected to my pc through coaxial cable. and the volume fluctuates while playing mkv movies but not audio files (i need to double check). I also tried it with an eGreat R200 Pro through HDMI and it still happens.

With plain tv audio it is ok as well.

Setup: 2.0 floorstanding speakers

what could be the culprit to my problem?

Thanks.

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Jul 14, 2011 at 10:19 PM
Hey guys,

I have an rxv357 receiver, connected to my pc through coaxial cable. and the volume fluctuates while playing mkv movies but not audio files (i need to double check). I also tried it with an eGreat R200 Pro through HDMI and it still happens.

With plain tv audio it is ok as well.

Setup: 2.0 floorstanding speakers

what could be the culprit to my problem?

Thanks.



Fluctuates meaning himihina then lumalakas? Or nawawala and bumabalik yung sound?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: j0hans0n on Jul 15, 2011 at 12:38 AM
Fluctuates meaning himihina then lumalakas? Or nawawala and bumabalik yung sound?


Sir Courage,

humihina then lumalakas po.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Jul 15, 2011 at 12:41 AM


Sir Courage,

humihina then lumalakas po.

Can you try connecting the R200 via Stereo analog connection to your receiver and try again if mag fluctuate pa?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Cosmic79 on Jul 15, 2011 at 03:51 AM
Mayroon ako Yamaha 467 also connected sa computer via RCA analog. With movies and music stable naman ang sound. 5.1 or stereo ok naman. Naka enable ba ang DSP parameter mo? Naka turn off sa akin.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: j0hans0n on Jul 19, 2011 at 08:56 PM
Mayroon ako Yamaha 467 also connected sa computer via RCA analog. With movies and music stable naman ang sound. 5.1 or stereo ok naman. Naka enable ba ang DSP parameter mo? Naka turn off sa akin.

dsp, if you mean by concert hall, cinema, etc modes. i set it at "Stereo". RCA/Analog from tv is ok. i only have stereo speakers and no 5.1. have you experienced movies through stereo?

Can you try connecting the R200 via Stereo analog connection to your receiver and try again if mag fluctuate pa?

Sir courage, not necessarily R200pro yung gamit kong player. Since I bought that for my father and i just borrowed it to watch a movie or two. my main player/concern is a pc connected to my tv with a 12 meter coaxial cable for digital audio and 15 meter cable for vga.


Perhaps I need an AVR for my devices? Does volume fluctuate with voltage too? Thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Aug 06, 2011 at 04:36 PM
Replacing the RX-V667:

(http://data.yamaha.jp/sdb/product/image/main/raw/r/rx-v671_black_g/AC455ED9CCCB4E92A709BFC756AAB45B_12073.jpg)
Yamaha RX-V671


With Internet Radio; with Front panel USB Digital Connection for iPod and iPhone; but pre-outs removed.


(http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/receivers/yamaha-rx-v671-fl/image_mini)


Reviews:

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/receivers/yamaha-rx-v671-fl
http://reviews.cnet.com/av-receivers/yamaha-rx-v671/4505-6466_7-34533968.html#reviewPage1
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Aug 07, 2011 at 05:04 AM
The Yamaha R-S models are now available through 5th Ave / Avesco, afaik. I saw them on display.

(http://www.hitechreview.com/uploads/2010/10/Yamaha-R-S700.jpg)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: lithium_deuteride on Aug 07, 2011 at 09:31 AM
Any word if they will sell the RX-AXXXX series here?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Aug 07, 2011 at 09:53 AM
Any word if they will sell the RX-AXXXX series here?

The Aventage (RX-A) models have local equivalents, falling under the RX-V nomenclature.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: fredmontano on Aug 07, 2011 at 03:58 PM
Just bought the rx v371. Pansin ko lang parang oversaturated yung color pagpinapadaan sa avr yung hdmi signal from xtreamer then sa lcd tv via hdmi out.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: van_xer on Aug 13, 2011 at 09:28 PM
Ok ba yamaha avr for infinity primus?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Aug 14, 2011 at 03:21 AM
Just bought the rx v371. Pansin ko lang parang oversaturated yung color pagpinapadaan sa avr yung hdmi signal from xtreamer then sa lcd tv via hdmi out.

That shouldn't be the case, since the rx-v371 does not do video processing.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Aug 14, 2011 at 03:36 AM
Ok ba yamaha avr for infinity primus?

Doable, especially with newer Yamahas. Try them together, to see if it works for you.

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: paramount on Aug 15, 2011 at 10:04 PM
Hi, I have RX567 and M&S carnivals, question Lang po, why is it when I play audio CDs the SW is deactivated, is there a way para to have it applied in music as well para may knotting bass.  Sorry if noob question but hope some answers here...  Thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jhelenz on Aug 15, 2011 at 11:11 PM
Hi, I have RX567 and M&S carnivals, question Lang po, why is it when I play audio CDs the SW is deactivated, is there a way para to have it applied in music as well para may knotting bass.  Sorry if noob question but hope some answers here...  Thanks!

anong seting ang ginagamit mo when playing cd's?kapag naka pure direct ka na didisable talaga yung sub.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Aug 15, 2011 at 11:22 PM
anong seting ang ginagamit mo when playing cd's?kapag naka pure direct ka na didisable talaga yung sub.

Or if naka Large yung front L/R.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: paramount on Aug 16, 2011 at 06:05 AM
Thanks, made adjustments on the front L/R, the sub is now working, last question, is it advisable to set all speakers (center and rear) to small as well? Or just leave it as large?  Thanks again po... 



Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jhelenz on Aug 16, 2011 at 07:09 AM
Thanks, made adjustments on the front L/R, the sub is now working, last question, is it advisable to set all speakers (center and rear) to small as well? Or just leave it as large?  Thanks again po... 




it depends on your speakers.when i still have my wharf 9cm,i set it to large and my 9.1 rears to small.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Aug 16, 2011 at 12:27 PM
Thanks, made adjustments on the front L/R, the sub is now working, last question, is it advisable to set all speakers (center and rear) to small as well? Or just leave it as large?  Thanks again po... 

What sub are you using? Are you using the Carnival 5 Center and Carnival 3 Surrounds?

If so, try putting all your speakers to Small (see if it works better for you). You can start by crossing the Carnival 8s at around 60Hz, and both Carnival 5s and Carnival 3s at 80Hz. You can do tweaks from there (or try the YPAO setup).
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: paramount on Aug 16, 2011 at 09:24 PM
Will do and try thanks again! Really appreciate it.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Aug 16, 2011 at 09:52 PM
Thanks, made adjustments on the front L/R, the sub is now working, last question, is it advisable to set all speakers (center and rear) to small as well? Or just leave it as large?  Thanks again po... 





It depends.. all my speakers are set to small except for the center.. Mas full yung sound nang center ko pag naka large sya vs naka small...Others might find it different though...You can always test and listen...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: paramount on Aug 21, 2011 at 08:16 AM
hi, sorry need one more advice, what is the best set up for sub, normal or reverse, currently i have it as normal in amp and set at 0 in the sub. btw my cross freq is set at 100.   is this ok? thanks again. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Aug 21, 2011 at 09:15 AM
hi, sorry need one more advice, what is the best set up for sub, normal or reverse, currently i have it as normal in amp and set at 0 in the sub. btw my cross freq is set at 100.   is this ok? thanks again.  

Normal or reverse is just the phase setting of the sub. In the very simplest terms: Set it to where it sounds louder, as that is where it more-or-less runs in-phase with the other speakers.

If you have doubts, run the YPAO setup.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: pilyo168 on Aug 24, 2011 at 04:14 PM
Normal or reverse is just the phase setting of the sub. In the very simplest terms: Set it to where it sounds louder, as that is where it more-or-less runs in-phase with the other speakers.

If you have doubts, run the YPAO setup.
Galing naman ikaw lang talaga master ivan nasagot sa lahat ng Q&A dito.   Kung may karma rating lang dito higit pa siguro number ng post mo ang thumbs up.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Aug 25, 2011 at 03:58 PM
Galing naman ikaw lang talaga master ivan nasagot sa lahat ng Q&A dito.   Kung may karma rating lang dito higit pa siguro number ng post mo ang thumbs up.  ;D

Loko ka Master Marco. ;D Nagtatry lang po tumulong pag may oras.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: timtim15 on Sep 24, 2011 at 04:00 AM
sirs, can i use the YPAO mic from other yamaha receiver? eg yamaha rxv 1800 to rxv 1400? nawala kasi yung mic ko.

TIA
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jhelenz on Sep 25, 2011 at 01:29 AM
sirs, can i use the YPAO mic from other yamaha receiver? eg yamaha rxv 1800 to rxv 1400? nawala kasi yung mic ko.

TIA
there is no harm in trying.i tried a yamaha rxv 657 ypao mic to a yamaha rxv 1400 gumana naman
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kristan on Sep 26, 2011 at 08:46 PM
Hi,

I'm a noob sa mga receivers.. tanong ko lang kung gumagana yung crossover/subwoofer out kahit analog stereo yung input?

Thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Sep 26, 2011 at 10:53 PM
Hi,

I'm a noob sa mga receivers.. tanong ko lang kung gumagana yung crossover/subwoofer out kahit analog stereo yung input?

Thanks


In most cases, yes. Sa Yamaha AVRs (since asa Yamaha thread tayo), it gets bypassed when you select Direct. For other modes, gumagana siya.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: timtim15 on Sep 26, 2011 at 11:02 PM
there is no harm in trying.i tried a yamaha rxv 657 ypao mic to a yamaha rxv 1400 gumana naman

Sweet! Thank you sir
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: paramount on Oct 01, 2011 at 07:07 PM
Hi, i own a rxv567 and would like to maxinize the 7.1functionality vy connecting two more rear spakers at the back, will it make a big difference ? Also, what do i need to choose the 7 channel enhancer to activate it or even for straight option ok na.  Was wondering kasi baka it will just distribute the power equally to all speakers.  Thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Oct 02, 2011 at 02:29 AM
Hi, i own a rxv567 and would like to maxinize the 7.1functionality vy connecting two more rear spakers at the back, will it make a big difference ? Also, what do i need to choose the 7 channel enhancer to activate it or even for straight option ok na.  Was wondering kasi baka it will just distribute the power equally to all speakers.  Thanks

Just enable the surround back speakers through the menu. The AVR will start utilizing them automatically.

I just use the "straight" processing mode in my Yamaha (meaning EQ and TA enabled, but with DSP enhancements disabled).
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: lncc63 on Oct 05, 2011 at 04:39 AM
We have a RX-V3800 setup for 7.1 operation.  I usually listen to music in the PURE DIRECT mode with the subwoofer off (tipid sa kuryente  :) among other things).  My question is does the BASS CROSS OVER frequency setting still affect the signal to the front speakers?

The reason I ask is because the lowest BASS CROSS OVER setting is 40 Hz but our front speakers have a 30Hz lower 3db limitk.  By the way, I have the BASS OUT setting set to BOTH and the crossover at 80 Hz.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: badoy on Oct 05, 2011 at 08:54 AM
My question is does the BASS CROSS OVER frequency setting still affect the signal to the front speakers
yes it will affect if the bass settings is both.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Oct 05, 2011 at 11:05 AM
We have a RX-V3800 setup for 7.1 operation.  I usually listen to music in the PURE DIRECT mode with the subwoofer off (tipid sa kuryente  :) among other things).  My question is does the BASS CROSS OVER frequency setting still affect the signal to the front speakers?

The reason I ask is because the lowest BASS CROSS OVER setting is 40 Hz but our front speakers have a 30Hz lower 3db limitk.  By the way, I have the BASS OUT setting set to BOTH and the crossover at 80 Hz.
"BOTH" sends bass signals to fronts and sub, hence crossover setting has no effect on the front speakers.
Title: Pics of an RX-A2010 Aventage
Post by: lithium_deuteride on Oct 23, 2011 at 06:56 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v681/carnika/IMG_3468.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v681/carnika/IMG_3472.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v681/carnika/IMG_3467.jpg)

Compared to my RX-V1200 which is pushing 10 years and still ticking like new.  :)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v681/carnika/IMG_3404.jpg)
Title: Re: Pics of an RX-A2010 Aventage
Post by: Courage on Oct 23, 2011 at 11:24 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v681/carnika/IMG_3468.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v681/carnika/IMG_3472.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v681/carnika/IMG_3467.jpg)

Compared to my RX-V1200 which is pushing 10 years and still ticking like new.  :)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v681/carnika/IMG_3404.jpg)

Wow dumating na sir? Congrats... drool... ang ganda.... Tagal pa nung sa akin.. next month pa...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Oct 23, 2011 at 11:47 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v681/carnika/IMG_3468.jpg)
Nice AVR sir! :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: badoy on Oct 24, 2011 at 09:56 AM
wow...one of its kind...High End Yamaha AVR series...how much is the price range here in phil?
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Post by: uerkiwi09 on Oct 25, 2011 at 12:10 PM
Sooo nice pics.   Sounds must be much better.     
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Post by: [r0n1n] on Nov 26, 2011 at 04:56 PM
hi gurus, yun bang Aventage e higher series compared sa RX-Vx71? Ano ang difference? TIA! 
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Post by: Stagea on Nov 26, 2011 at 09:14 PM
hi gurus, yun bang Aventage e higher series compared sa RX-Vx71? Ano ang difference? TIA! 

Higher models sila for the US market. Here in Asia, they don't use the Aventage name on the equivalent models.
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Post by: [r0n1n] on Nov 27, 2011 at 07:12 AM
Higher models sila for the US market. Here in Asia, they don't use the Aventage name on the equivalent models.

so simply RXV and RXA series ???
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Nov 27, 2011 at 08:58 AM
so simply RXV and RXA series ???

The Aventage (RX-A) equivalents are still tagged as RX-V models in our region.

For example, the Aventage RX-A3010 has an RX-V equivalent, in the form of the RX-V3071.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: [r0n1n] on Nov 29, 2011 at 07:49 AM
The Aventage (RX-A) equivalents are still tagged as RX-V models in our region.

For example, the Aventage RX-A3010 has an RX-V equivalent, in the form of the RX-V3071.

thanks Stagea!  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jake052478 on Nov 29, 2011 at 02:56 PM
anyone selling a yamaha rx-v  1500
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Post by: Courage on Dec 28, 2011 at 01:43 AM
I love Aventage...

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7158/6582558323_61981ea54d_z.jpg)
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Post by: jhelenz on Dec 28, 2011 at 09:13 AM
wow,nice looking receiver you got there.i'm sure it sounds great especially for movies.
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Post by: Courage on Dec 28, 2011 at 09:59 AM
wow,nice looking receiver you got there.i'm sure it sounds great especially for movies.

Thanks sir.. so far according to my ears... It's awesome  :)
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Post by: james16 on Dec 28, 2011 at 10:18 AM
I love Aventage...

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7158/6582558323_61981ea54d_z.jpg)

Gwapong gwapo  :)
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Post by: Courage on Dec 28, 2011 at 10:31 AM
Gwapong gwapo  :)

It's worth my 2 months wait he he he...
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Post by: Waray on Jan 03, 2012 at 02:11 PM
Can I use my LG HT805PM speakers and subwoofer with RX-V467?

Thanks!
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Post by: [dcw]aaron on Jan 27, 2012 at 05:31 PM
mga sir patulong naman..noob here..and first time mag sesetup ng separates..

ok na po ba tung ganitong setup (60% movies, 20% gaming, 20% music):

Yamaha RX-V371
MS Carnival 6 floorstanders or MS Carnival 8 floorstanders
MS Carnival 5 center
MS Carnival 3 surrounds
MS Carnival 9 sub

is this setup ok for starters? thanks for your inputs!
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Post by: Courage on Jan 27, 2012 at 05:44 PM
mga sir patulong naman..noob here..and first time mag sesetup ng separates..

ok na po ba tung ganitong setup (60% movies, 20% gaming, 20% music):

Yamaha RX-V371
MS Carnival 6 floorstanders or MS Carnival 8 floorstanders
MS Carnival 5 center
MS Carnival 3 surrounds
MS Carnival 9 sub

is this setup ok for starters? thanks for your inputs!

Yes it's more than ok in my opinion..
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Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jan 27, 2012 at 05:48 PM
mga sir patulong naman..noob here..and first time mag sesetup ng separates..

ok na po ba tung ganitong setup (60% movies, 20% gaming, 20% music):

Yamaha RX-V371
MS Carnival 6 floorstanders or MS Carnival 8 floorstanders
MS Carnival 5 center
MS Carnival 3 surrounds
MS Carnival 9 sub

is this setup ok for starters? thanks for your inputs!

(http://megan1ap3.edublogs.org/files/2011/03/thumbsup_2-1kkdh18.gif)
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Post by: [dcw]aaron on Jan 27, 2012 at 06:03 PM
thanks mga sir! if downgrade ko yung avr to pioneer vsx 521-k with same set of speakers? ok lang rin ba? between two setups which is a-ok and pangmatagalan? medjo tight kasi ang budget and kelangan pag ipunan..
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Post by: Courage on Jan 27, 2012 at 06:11 PM
thanks mga sir! if downgrade ko yung avr to pioneer vsx 521-k with same set of speakers? ok lang rin ba? between two setups which is a-ok and pangmatagalan? medjo tight kasi ang budget and kelangan pag ipunan..

Both are excellent performers in my opinion.. again you should to a head to head comparison by listening to both. Pareho naman silang tatagal eh.. well again it depends on how you treat your equipment..

Pero i suggest to listen to both using speakers that you wanted.. and from there mamili ka kung alin mas maganda sayo..

Parehong ok yan bro.. Parehong tatagal yan..
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Post by: [dcw]aaron on Jan 27, 2012 at 06:18 PM
thanks for your input! more power pdvd!
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Post by: Courage on Jan 27, 2012 at 06:23 PM
thanks for your input! more power pdvd!

Hows the performance of your Samsung PS51D491 51" Plasma 3D?
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Post by: [dcw]aaron on Jan 27, 2012 at 06:38 PM
so far ok naman and very much satisfied..pero ngayon naka kahon balik kasi on going ang painting walls ng sala eh..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Funktopuss on Feb 04, 2012 at 05:32 PM
Is there be a big difference( i mean really big) in terms of audio quality only, when i upgrade from an entry level yamaha receiver to a midrange 671?
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Post by: Courage on Feb 04, 2012 at 06:15 PM
Is there be a big difference( i mean really big) in terms of audio quality only, when i upgrade from an entry level yamaha receiver to a midrange 671?

In my opinion YES
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Post by: Funktopuss on Feb 04, 2012 at 08:28 PM
In my opinion YES
alright then, you just gave me the go signal to upgrade.
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Post by: Courage on Feb 04, 2012 at 08:39 PM
alright then, you just gave me the go signal to upgrade.

Yup.. go for the mid levels if you're going for Yamaha..
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Post by: Funktopuss on Feb 04, 2012 at 09:05 PM
actually i still cant decide wether to get the 671 or the onkyo 609? 40-40-20 for movies/ps3/music respectively on jbl studio L speakers. im leaning towards the 671, as it is more reliable in my experience of my older yamaha model.
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Post by: Courage on Feb 04, 2012 at 09:22 PM
actually i still cant decide wether to get the 671 or the onkyo 609? 40-40-20 for movies/ps3/music respectively on jbl studio L speakers. im leaning towards the 671, as it is more reliable in my experience of my older yamaha model.

I'll go with the 671... And yes, yamaha's are very reliable
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Post by: Funktopuss on Feb 04, 2012 at 09:30 PM
I'll go with the 671... And yes, yamaha's are very reliable
i might can the 671 real soon, can you recommend me a dealer?
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Post by: jaime4i on Feb 04, 2012 at 09:40 PM
Good day PDVD. Pa help naman. My Avr is Yamaha  371, ano po ba ang magandang setting if watching movies? i set my Measy E8HD to HDMI Raw, then ang lumalabas sa AVR is DTS. Speakers are Diamond 9.5, Diamond 9.CM & Amber AM-20.1 Surround. Thanks :)
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Post by: Funktopuss on Feb 04, 2012 at 09:44 PM
Good day PDVD. Pa help naman. My Avr is Yamaha  371, ano po ba ang magandang setting if watching movies? i set my Measy E8HD to HDMI Raw, then ang lumalabas sa AVR is DTS. Speakers are Diamond 9.5, Diamond 9.CM & Amber AM-20.1 Surround. Thanks :)
para saken i always pick "standard" mode. sometimes i cant understand the dialogue on other settings.
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Post by: Courage on Feb 04, 2012 at 10:40 PM
i might can the 671 real soon, can you recommend me a dealer?

Try Listening in Style or Spectra..
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Post by: Courage on Feb 04, 2012 at 10:42 PM
Good day PDVD. Pa help naman. My Avr is Yamaha  371, ano po ba ang magandang setting if watching movies? i set my Measy E8HD to HDMI Raw, then ang lumalabas sa AVR is DTS. Speakers are Diamond 9.5, Diamond 9.CM & Amber AM-20.1 Surround. Thanks :)

Your setting is just fine unless you are having a problem or issues?
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Post by: jaime4i on Feb 05, 2012 at 05:47 AM
@Funktopuss & @Courage: thanks for the tip sir :) wala naman issues. Very satisfied naman sa amp kahit entry level. Pero nung nakita ko ang amp niyo na aventage napa WoW ako! :)
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Post by: Courage on Feb 05, 2012 at 12:12 PM
@Funktopuss & @Courage: thanks for the tip sir :) wala naman issues. Very satisfied naman sa amp kahit entry level. Pero nung nakita ko ang amp niyo na aventage napa WoW ako! :)

If you're already satisfied with your setup.. It;s not a good thing to look at the Gallery and Market place... May kulam effect everytime you browse that page he he he...
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Post by: jaime4i on Feb 05, 2012 at 12:45 PM
If you're already satisfied with your setup.. It;s not a good thing to look at the Gallery and Market place... May kulam effect everytime you browse that page he he he...

sir nakulam na ako ng aventage mo! hahahaha :D sa susunod na pag full pay na tong AVR ko :)

Na observe ko lang sa 371 ko, Remux movies are DTS-HD, once pag play ko, Lumalabas ang DTS-HD then switch back to DTS... hindi kaya sa NMT ko, which is Measy E8HD, i dont know if this is capable of DTS-HD.
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Post by: mikz023 on Feb 05, 2012 at 12:47 PM
Hi mga sirs. Im thinking to switch plan for my futute av. Tumaas kac price ng onkyo 809 sa amazon. Ano mga
advantage ng aventage 2000 sa onkyo 809? will be using rti a3 speakers. Halos konti na din kc difference sa price nila.
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Post by: Courage on Feb 05, 2012 at 02:03 PM
sir nakulam na ako ng aventage mo! hahahaha :D sa susunod na pag full pay na tong AVR ko :)

Na observe ko lang sa 371 ko, Remux movies are DTS-HD, once pag play ko, Lumalabas ang DTS-HD then switch back to DTS... hindi kaya sa NMT ko, which is Measy E8HD, i dont know if this is capable of DTS-HD.

Yes sir your receiver is capable of decoding HD from DTS and DD.. Check your NMT, cables and source file..
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Post by: Courage on Feb 05, 2012 at 02:07 PM
Hi mga sirs. Im thinking to switch plan for my futute av. Tumaas kac price ng onkyo 809 sa amazon. Ano mga
advantage ng aventage 2000 sa onkyo 809? will be using rti a3 speakers. Halos konti na din kc difference sa price nila.

I'm sure the 809 is an excellent receiver.. I've also considered that before buying the Aventage...

But if it's me i'll get the Aventage 2000, well depende din kasi sa Model... pag 3009 na or Aventage 2000.. i'll get the 3009 pero pag A3010 na usapan i'll probably get the A3010..

But again i've been a fan of Yamaha because of my experience with their receivers.. Never pa ako naka experience nang Onkyo though..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: drachx on Feb 29, 2012 at 06:32 AM

Yamaha RX-V371 pair with polk M10 - Bookshelf Speaker
or should I get wharfs 10.1 ?

mostly movies, around 30% music..

tia
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Post by: juneaki on Mar 02, 2012 at 10:52 AM
Anybody familiar with yamaha 467? I just acquired a preowned one. Papaano po ba ise-set ang AVR to play the HD audio of bluray movies? Or should it be set at the player?
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Post by: raider125jeigh on Mar 02, 2012 at 11:44 AM
sir nakulam na ako ng aventage mo! hahahaha :D sa susunod na pag full pay na tong AVR ko :)

Na observe ko lang sa 371 ko, Remux movies are DTS-HD, once pag play ko, Lumalabas ang DTS-HD then switch back to DTS... hindi kaya sa NMT ko, which is Measy E8HD, i dont know if this is capable of DTS-HD.

nakaset ba sa raw ung audio?
dapat lalabas din ung dts hd sa receiver
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Mar 02, 2012 at 12:25 PM
Anybody familiar with yamaha 467? I just acquired a preowned one. Papaano po ba ise-set ang AVR to play the HD audio of bluray movies? Or should it be set at the player?

Make sure you set your player to raw or passthrough and make sure HDMI ang connection nang player to AVR.
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Post by: juneaki on Mar 02, 2012 at 02:35 PM
Make sure you set your player to raw or passthrough and make sure HDMI ang connection nang player to AVR.

Yes sir, hdmi ang connection from bd player to yamaha 467 with the surround decoder set at automatic. I-check ko na lang yung setting sa bd player. Thanks.  ;)
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Post by: Courage on Mar 02, 2012 at 08:59 PM
Yes sir, hdmi ang connection from bd player to yamaha 467 with the surround decoder set at automatic. I-check ko na lang yung setting sa bd player. Thanks.  ;)

Also make sure that the disc you're playing is encoded with HD material..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mikey1972 on Mar 05, 2012 at 06:09 AM
Rx-v550 won't turn on :( need help finding authorized/good repair place

-it started yesterday morning. pressing power will turn the unit on for about 1 second then it shuts off

Any help to point me in the right direction would be highly appreciated.
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Post by: Courage on Mar 05, 2012 at 06:53 PM
Rx-v550 won't turn on :( need help finding authorized/good repair place

-it started yesterday morning. pressing power will turn the unit on for about 1 second then it shuts off

Any help to point me in the right direction would be highly appreciated.

Did you try to remove all connections first speakers and sources then try it again?
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Post by: mikey1972 on Mar 06, 2012 at 04:05 AM
hi courage,
yes, it was my last resort and was hoping for the best after I did, but same thing happens. on then off after 1-2 seconds .
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Mar 06, 2012 at 04:44 AM
Yamaha RX-V371 pair with polk M10 - Bookshelf Speaker
or should I get wharfs 10.1 ?

mostly movies, around 30% music..

tia

The M10 would work great with the RX-V371, but you'd need a sub that plays high (the PSW subs come to mind). The M10 performs best when crossed fairly high (80-100Hz).


Yes sir, hdmi ang connection from bd player to yamaha 467 with the surround decoder set at automatic. I-check ko na lang yung setting sa bd player. Thanks.  ;)

The RX-V467 does not display the stream type. As long as your source is streaming the proper format and your receiver outputs surround audio when 'Straight' mode is selected, then you shouldn't worry.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: trinity1123 on Mar 06, 2012 at 05:25 AM
just hookup my DSP-A1

wala akong masabi napaka relax talaga si A1
unlike my previous avr (RXV-1500) bigyan mo pa db para lumabas yung SQ at uminit pa

si A1 parang wala lang, 9 o'clock ang level volume ko swabe na swabe si FS
parang nakatingin sakin si A1 at parang may sinasabi bigyan mo pa db men.
at napa isip ako wag na baka si FS ma puyat.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

bangis ni A1 sumakit likod ko sa kakabuhat. (general cleaning kasi)


Mabangis talaga tumunog ito...Ikumpara mo pa sa mga latest model na may HDMI at DTS_HD...
Marami na rin akong sinubukan na Yamaha na Di TOL mahirap pakawalan ito hehehe
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jhelenz on Mar 06, 2012 at 08:59 AM
Rx-v550 won't turn on :( need help finding authorized/good repair place

-it started yesterday morning. pressing power will turn the unit on for about 1 second then it shuts off

Any help to point me in the right direction would be highly appreciated.
audioworld in banawe.medyo mahal lang mag parepair pero ok naman yung service nila.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mikey1972 on Mar 06, 2012 at 09:06 AM
thanks, jhelenz. will definitely head over there
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Post by: cookies on Mar 25, 2012 at 03:34 PM
Hi sir,
May problema po itong yamaha rx-v595 A ko, baka meron kayong alam na service center or repair shop dito sa Paranaque or La Pinas area. Previously ayaw gumana yung left main channel, i had it repaired by an electronic shop, pero lalong lumaki ang sira.
I hope you can recommend one good repair shop for Yamaha receivers.

Salamat po. :'(
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Post by: Cosmic79 on Mar 25, 2012 at 05:20 PM
Hi sir,
May problema po itong yamaha rx-v595 A ko, baka meron kayong alam na service center or repair shop dito sa Paranaque or La Pinas area. Previously ayaw gumana yung left main channel, i had it repaired by an electronic shop, pero lalong lumaki ang sira.
I hope you can recommend one good repair shop for Yamaha receivers.

Salamat po. :'(

Try to inquire at 5th Avenue if they can repair your Yamaha. They are the distributor of Yamaha products. However, sa pagka alam ko wala ata silang branch sa Paranaque. Nearest would be the Ayala Park Square branch.

5TH Avenue: PARK SQUARE - I
Stall P09 Park Square-1 Ayala Center, Makati
Telephone Number: + 63 (2) 817-8756 to 58
Email Address: [email protected]

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Post by: olrac on Mar 29, 2012 at 12:27 PM
hi im using an old yamaha RX-V795 and would like to ask if it is possible to use YPAO mic for calibration.  Ive been searching the net but cant find any exact results if i can use YPAO with RX-V795.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Mar 29, 2012 at 02:06 PM
hi im using an old yamaha RX-V795 and would like to ask if it is possible to use YPAO mic for calibration.  Ive been searching the net but cant find any exact results if i can use YPAO with RX-V795.

No, you can't use the YPAO mic on an RX-V795.

The unit must be YPAO-capable before a YPAO mic can be used.  The RX-V795 is not YPAO-capable, and is not capable of any type of automatic calibration via omnidirectional microphone.

It was only in November 2003 that YPAO was introduced by Yamaha, when the $4,500 flagship Yamaha RX-Z9 featured it for the first time.

The RX-V795 is a 1998 model.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: olrac on Mar 29, 2012 at 04:37 PM
thanks sir barrister...just need to do some manual calibration then
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackryan on Apr 12, 2012 at 01:15 PM
what is the difference between the Aventage 2000 versus the Aventage 2010? TIA!
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Post by: Courage on Apr 12, 2012 at 10:21 PM
what is the difference between the Aventage 2000 versus the Aventage 2010? TIA!

Major is 7.2 ang RX-A2000 then 9.2 na ang RX-A2010

A2010 is 10 watts Higher( 130watts vs 140watts)
On A2010 you have the option to turn off yung OSD sa TV sa A2000 wala
A2010 is a little heavier than A2000

Rest are same :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 12, 2012 at 11:00 PM
Lols bat mo quote ulet.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 12, 2012 at 11:04 PM
Lols bat mo quote ulet.  ;D ;D ;D

Oo nga no, didnt know why ha ha ha delete ko na lang..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: socko888 on Apr 13, 2012 at 12:41 PM
hello peeps,

I bought a YHT S401BL sound bar with integrated receiver+subwoofer from Amazon. The problem is ayaw mag power on yung receiver. The unit is 120v 60hz and i plugged it into a 110v power source from AVR. I'm not sure if this is a factor. Can anyone tell me what seems to be the problem, if I can fix it myself, and which center here in Manila can fix it properly? Thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackryan on Apr 13, 2012 at 02:07 PM
Major is 7.2 ang RX-A2000 then 9.2 na ang RX-A2010

A2010 is 10 watts Higher( 130watts vs 140watts)
On A2010 you have the option to turn off yung OSD sa TV sa A2000 wala
A2010 is a little heavier than A2000

Rest are same :)

thanks bro... is the capability to use 9.2 channels all using the internal powered amp of the RX-A2010? I don't understand fully the indication that I need to use an external amp to enable 9.2.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackryan on Apr 13, 2012 at 02:09 PM
hello peeps,

I bought a YHT S401BL sound bar with integrated receiver+subwoofer from Amazon. The problem is ayaw mag power on yung receiver. The unit is 120v 60hz and i plugged it into a 110v power source from AVR. I'm not sure if this is a factor. Can anyone tell me what seems to be the problem, if I can fix it myself, and which center here in Manila can fix it properly? Thanks.


it should work... maybe the unit is broken.

have you checked for any fuse in the unit itself?

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 13, 2012 at 03:02 PM
thanks bro... is the capability to use 9.2 channels all using the internal powered amp of the RX-A2010? I don't understand fully the indication that I need to use an external amp to enable 9.2.

Yes for RX-A2010... Kabit ka lang nang 9 speakers and you're good to go...

Sa RX-A2000, it has Pre-Out for the additional 2 channels where you can connect a 2 channel amp...

The additional 2 channels nga pala is for Presence speakers/channel..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: socko888 on Apr 14, 2012 at 10:17 AM
it should work... maybe the unit is broken.

have you checked for any fuse in the unit itself?



thanks for prompt response mr. jackryan. the unit itself is closed. so i didn't risk it. i brought it to audioworld yesterday since i concluded that i cannot do anything about it myself. ill be posting again on my experience with audioworld
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackryan on Apr 14, 2012 at 05:00 PM
Yes for RX-A2010... Kabit ka lang nang 9 speakers and you're good to go...

Sa RX-A2000, it has Pre-Out for the additional 2 channels where you can connect a 2 channel amp...

The additional 2 channels nga pala is for Presence speakers/channel..


thanks bro...

btw, are those units sold on ebay reliable?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 15, 2012 at 03:01 PM
thanks bro...

btw, are those units sold on ebay reliable?

Base on my experience ok naman sila.. I buy only from Top Rated Sellers..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 18, 2012 at 12:10 AM
Yes for RX-A2010... Kabit ka lang nang 9 speakers and you're good to go...

Sa RX-A2000, it has Pre-Out for the additional 2 channels where you can connect a 2 channel amp...

The additional 2 channels nga pala is for Presence speakers/channel..

Ano ba kuya A2000 ba or A2010? Nasa 40k na langbudget ko.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 18, 2012 at 01:40 AM
Ano ba kuya A2000 ba or A2010? Nasa 40k na langbudget ko.  ;D ;D ;D

Hindi naman malayo ang dalawa eh.. Unless gusto mo mag 9.2 without using an external amp then go with 2010, yung A2000 7.2 pero capable naman mag 9.2 kung gusto mo...

Thats the reason i choose A2000 instead of the 2010, very negligible ang difference.. mas mura pa... Features wise and power.. almost same..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 18, 2012 at 05:21 AM
Ano ba kuya A2000 ba or A2010? Nasa 40k na langbudget ko.  ;D ;D ;D

a2010 na bilhin mo..... :o
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 18, 2012 at 07:11 AM
Hindi naman malayo ang dalawa eh.. Unless gusto mo mag 9.2 without using an external amp then go with 2010, yung A2000 7.2 pero capable naman mag 9.2 kung gusto mo...

Thats the reason i choose A2000 instead of the 2010, very negligible ang difference.. mas mura pa... Features wise and power.. almost same..

Sa ebay ba nung nag purchase ka di na niverify yung shipping address mo kasi iba ung shipping and billing adress mo di ba? Medyo mabigat na kasi ung 58k+ na budget for the receiver di ko naman kasi need yung 9.2  na feature niya. Baka ang kunin ko si yung A2000 :D :D

a2010 na bilhin mo..... :o

Puwede din nangungulam ka talaga pero di ko naman kasi need yung 9.2 na feature sayang din lang. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sientobente on Apr 18, 2012 at 08:15 AM
Question po, I'm eyeing the RX771, medyo takot pa kasi ako umorder abroad. What features will I lose if I go for this model vs higher end ones? I'm not really bothered with the watt/rms thing since an external amp is already planned plus 7.2 channels is already good for me. is the ypao version upgraded like higher end audysseys?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 18, 2012 at 08:53 AM
Question po, I'm eyeing the RX771, medyo takot pa kasi ako umorder abroad. What features will I lose if I go for this model vs higher end ones? I'm not really bothered with the watt/rms thing since an external amp is already planned plus 7.2 channels is already good for me. is the ypao version upgraded like higher end audysseys?

Brader alam ko yun yung YPAO ung ang katapat ng audysseys ng onkyo with yamaha di ko lang alam kung may version venrsion din ang YPAO. Try to compare the model at yamaha site may compare models naman dun. Mas mabilis mo makikita ang pag kakaiba ng mga per model.  :D :D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sientobente on Apr 18, 2012 at 09:17 AM
Brader alam ko yun yung YPAO ung ang katapat ng audysseys ng onkyo with yamaha di ko lang alam kung may version venrsion din ang YPAO. Try to compare the model at yamaha site may compare models naman dun. Mas mabilis mo makikita ang pag kakaiba ng mga per model.  :D :D

I've gone through it na brader, and the difference i see(771 vs a1010) is the wattage and the number of hdmi inputs(6 vs 8), did i miss anything else? dac is the same burr-brown. upscales to 1080p, 3D ready etc.

I saw that the ypao of the a2010 has reflected sound control while the lower models doesnt. ano pa kaya?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 18, 2012 at 09:51 AM
I've gone through it na brader, and the difference i see(771 vs a1010) is the wattage and the number of hdmi inputs(6 vs 8), did i miss anything else? dac is the same burr-brown. upscales to 1080p, 3D ready etc.

I saw that the ypao of the a2010 has reflected sound control while the lower models doesnt. ano pa kaya?

Ah okay pero sa tingin ko ala ka na namiss and sa tingin ko get the a1010 para if ever matag la upgrade yan.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Apr 18, 2012 at 10:00 AM
I've gone through it na brader, and the difference i see(771 vs a1010) is the wattage and the number of hdmi inputs(6 vs 8), did i miss anything else? dac is the same burr-brown. upscales to 1080p, 3D ready etc.

I saw that the ypao of the a2010 has reflected sound control while the lower models doesnt. ano pa kaya?

Brader suggestion ko lang is to get the highest position model you can get para wala nang what ifs saka hindi kana mag-iisip mag-upgrade ;) ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 18, 2012 at 01:37 PM
Brader suggestion ko lang is to get the highest position model you can get para wala nang what ifs saka hindi kana mag-iisip mag-upgrade ;) ;D

Max your budget na.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 18, 2012 at 01:40 PM
Max your budget na.  ;D ;D

max your budget elmer
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 18, 2012 at 02:31 PM
max your budget elmer

max na 45k brader baka kunin ko is RX-A2010 di ko naman kasi need ang 9.2.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 18, 2012 at 02:39 PM
max na 45k brader baka kunin ko is RX-A2010 di ko naman kasi need ang 9.2.  ;D ;D

malay mo ...in the near future...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 18, 2012 at 02:57 PM
malay mo ...in the near future...

Matagal pa un brader saka wala naman movie na naka original 9.2 audio. Saka maliit lang yung room ko para sa setup na 9.2. magkaron man siguro ako ng room na mas malaki meron na lalabas na mas maganda sa RX-A2010 or A3000 and mas affordable na.

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Apr 19, 2012 at 03:49 AM
Brader alam ko yun yung YPAO ung ang katapat ng audysseys ng onkyo with yamaha di ko lang alam kung may version venrsion din ang YPAO. Try to compare the model at yamaha site may compare models naman dun. Mas mabilis mo makikita ang pag kakaiba ng mga per model.  :D :D

Iba iba din ang implementations ng YPAO. Higher models can calibrate using measurements from multiple positions, and can manage additional and more flexible filters. The RX-Z11 has the best audio processing of any Yamaha AVR, imho. I think that it has went downhill from there to meet target price points.

To YPAO's advantage, even the most basic version is better than Audyssey's overly-limited 2EQ.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sientobente on Apr 19, 2012 at 09:43 AM
Brader suggestion ko lang is to get the highest position model you can get para wala nang what ifs saka hindi kana mag-iisip mag-upgrade ;) ;D

naku don master louie, kung kinikita ko sa isang buong taon ang kita mo sa isang araw, can afford na ako to go highend  :D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sientobente on Apr 19, 2012 at 09:46 AM
Iba iba din ang implementations ng YPAO. Higher models can calibrate using measurements from multiple positions, and can manage additional and more flexible filters. The RX-Z11 has the best audio processing of any Yamaha AVR, imho. I think that it has went downhill from there to meet target price points.

To YPAO's advantage, even the most basic version is better than Audyssey's overly-limited 2EQ.

ayun, that's the exact info i'm looking for master. i am actually attracted to ypao mainly because of the parametric equalizer adjustment feature it has per channel. although i know it's a chore to do this per speaker but i still find it fun and fulfilling to be able to set my speakers to the sound i am looking for  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 24, 2012 at 12:38 AM
Count down/Wait mode na ako just purchase Yamaha RX-A2010 at ebay.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 24, 2012 at 02:51 AM
Count down/Wait mode na ako just purchase Yamaha RX-A2010 at ebay.  ;D ;D

Brader ilang days yan? 1 week lang di ba?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 24, 2012 at 05:46 AM
Brader ilang days yan? 1 week lang di ba?

Pag nareceive before friday yung sa office ng shipping company next week sat andito na.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 25, 2012 at 04:49 PM
Pag nareceive before friday yung sa office ng shipping company next week sat andito na.  ;D ;D ;D

Wow ang bilis... naunahan mo pa yung akin.. he he he...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 25, 2012 at 09:05 PM
Wow ang bilis... naunahan mo pa yung akin.. he he he...

hehehe....mabilis daw si elmer
kasi makati na ung kamay
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 25, 2012 at 11:16 PM
Wow ang bilis... naunahan mo pa yung akin.. he he he...

On time pa naman ang shipping ng UPS.  ;D ;D

hehehe....mabilis daw si elmer
kasi makati na ung kamay

Alam ko mas makati kamay mo sa akin ako kasi nagagamot pa ng caladryl ikaw mukhang need ng ng operasyon para maalis ang kati.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on May 01, 2012 at 03:21 PM
On time pa naman ang shipping ng UPS.  ;D ;D

Alam ko mas makati kamay mo sa akin ako kasi nagagamot pa ng caladryl ikaw mukhang need ng ng operasyon para maalis ang kati.  ;D ;D

Pareho lang kayo oiii... ha ha ha
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 01, 2012 at 04:22 PM
Pareho lang kayo oiii... ha ha ha

Ikaw yun brader.  :P :P
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on May 01, 2012 at 04:25 PM
Ikaw yun brader.  :P :P

Oi bihira ako mag upgrade.. i upgraded everything because my equipments was like since 2002 pa he he he..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 01, 2012 at 04:27 PM
puro kayo ganyan...makakati .....
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 01, 2012 at 05:19 PM
puro kayo ganyan...makakati .....

Parang yung isa jan di lumalabas yung sakit niya na kati lalo na now may plan na upgrade di na yata natutulog kais bantay sarado ung item kulang na lang may taktak na reserve to derick.  :P :P

Oi bihira ako mag upgrade.. i upgraded everything because my equipments was like since 2002 pa he he he..
.

Kaya pala nag plaplano ka na mag upgrade sa Yamaha 3010 or sa new model na supported ang 4k video and airplay.  ;D ;D

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on May 01, 2012 at 05:22 PM
Parang yung isa jan di lumalabas yung sakit niya na kati lalo na now may plan na upgrade di na yata natutulog kais bantay sarado ung item kulang na lang may taktak na reserve to derick.  :P :P
.

Kaya pala nag plaplano ka na mag upgrade sa Yamaha 3010 or sa new model na supported ang 4k video and airplay.  ;D ;D



Oi di para sa akin yun... Para sayo yun.. Future receiver mo yun ha ha ha
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 01, 2012 at 05:31 PM
Oi di para sa akin yun... Para sayo yun.. Future receiver mo yun ha ha ha

Di kaya di ko na naisip na mag basa ng future yamaha models kasi ok na ako sa RX-A2010. Kaya ko ipusta ang HT setup ko kung mag upgrade ako before mag 1 year ang setup ko deal?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackdee on May 06, 2012 at 11:45 AM
good pm mga masters..
tanong ko lang po..
normal lang po ba sa DSP A1
pag na unplug muna yung power nya
babalik cya sa default settings nya?


TIA ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on May 06, 2012 at 12:15 PM
It should retain settings even when power is unplugged.

Pa service mo yung unit.  There's a defect that prevents memory from being retained for months without outside power.  Baka defective solder or sirang electrochemical capacitor for memory.

Kung electrochemical capacitor, mahal ($125+?) baka hindi na sulit ang magpa-repair.  

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackdee on May 06, 2012 at 03:33 PM
pag 24hours sir ok po naman cya ..
pero more than 2days back to deffault na.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 06, 2012 at 03:56 PM
pag 24hours sir ok po naman cya ..
pero more than 2days back to deffault na.
sa memory yan - kung ok lang naman syo keep it that way
baka may need palitan diyan...since medyo may edad na sana madali lang hanapan ng pyesa
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on May 06, 2012 at 11:07 PM
pag 24hours sir ok po naman cya ..
pero more than 2days back to deffault na.

Tama si Barrister, capacitor problem yan or yung iba battery..... I know a technician who can service that.. PM me... :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dzanos on May 08, 2012 at 06:42 PM
Mga sir RXV-671 or wait for RXV-673? :)

http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/av-receivers-amps/rx/?tab=product_lineup&selected=221391_372797_&mode=compare (http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/av-receivers-amps/rx/?tab=product_lineup&selected=221391_372797_&mode=compare)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackryan on May 09, 2012 at 07:09 AM
of course, the 673 :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: R1DVD on May 09, 2012 at 11:17 AM
Agree, wait for the 673 especially if you're an Apple fan (nice to have airplay)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: pekspert on May 09, 2012 at 08:09 PM
if you dont need the airplay feature, the 671 is more than enough.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dzanos on May 10, 2012 at 08:33 AM
Airplay lang ba yung difference? Hintayin ko na lang na may magbenta ng 671 :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on May 10, 2012 at 08:54 AM
Airplay lang ba yung difference? Hintayin ko na lang na may magbenta ng 671 :)
nope. 673 has 2 sub-out, has dialog level adjustment, 4k pass through and upscaling to name a few. check your posted link above for the comparison.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: haboky on May 12, 2012 at 12:40 PM
mga sir, where can I audition yamaha A-S500 integrated amplifier?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 15, 2012 at 01:46 PM
I just got my Yamaha Aventage RX-A2010.  :D :D

(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7229/sdc10429mg.jpg)

(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/821/sdc10430f.jpg)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 15, 2012 at 01:51 PM
ayos na ayos hehehe..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on May 15, 2012 at 11:12 PM
Ganda naman yan sir. How much landed nya including shipping?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 16, 2012 at 01:31 AM
Ganda naman yan sir. How much landed nya including shipping?

AIR shipping sir kaya medyo pricey pero 1 week andito na ung unit. Less alala sa unit kung mapano habang in transit.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: lncc63 on May 16, 2012 at 05:21 AM
Wow!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 18, 2012 at 08:02 AM
Any one using a paradigm speaker pair to yamaha receiver. Planning to get paradigm speaker pair to my Yamaha receiver. Thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on May 18, 2012 at 10:05 PM
Any one using a paradigm speaker pair to yamaha receiver. Planning to get paradigm speaker pair to my Yamaha receiver. Thanks

PSB PSB PSB PSB ha ha ha
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 18, 2012 at 10:49 PM
PSB PSB PSB PSB ha ha ha

Wala ata PSB sa disyerto brader. malaki din kasi ung discount pag sa disyerto.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: juneaki on May 19, 2012 at 05:10 PM
I just got my Yamaha Aventage RX-A2010.  :D :D

(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7229/sdc10429mg.jpg)

(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/821/sdc10430f.jpg)

Ganda naman nito. I'll wait for this in the PDVD market place 2-3 years from now.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: lncc63 on May 19, 2012 at 08:35 PM
Haaay SARS talaga.

Almost bought a RX-A3010 ... P100k brand new here in Tokyo.  Anyone know if that's a bargain or expensive?  Anyway, onsidering that I was not sure of the price, nor do I really need one, and the uncertainty of customs, good sense prevailed over the terminal sars.  Oh and lets not forget the fact that packaged it would weight 21.5 kg and I did not bring a trolley.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 19, 2012 at 08:52 PM
Haaay SARS talaga.

Almost bought a RX-A3010 ... P100k brand new here in Tokyo.  Anyone know if that's a bargain or expensive?  Anyway, onsidering that I was not sure of the price, nor do I really need one, and the uncertainty of customs, good sense prevailed over the terminal sars.  Oh and lets not forget the fact that packaged it would weight 21.5 kg and I did not bring a trolley.

calling rampage
elmer how much quote ng 3010 mo
naku may aabangan akong 3800 ulit hahaha
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 19, 2012 at 10:49 PM
Ganda naman nito. I'll wait for this in the PDVD market place 2-3 years from now.  ;D ;D ;D

Add ka pa 2 years brader so totalof 5 years.  ;D ;D

Haaay SARS talaga.

Almost bought a RX-A3010 ... P100k brand new here in Tokyo.  Anyone know if that's a bargain or expensive?  Anyway, onsidering that I was not sure of the price, nor do I really need one, and the uncertainty of customs, good sense prevailed over the terminal sars.  Oh and lets not forget the fact that packaged it would weight 21.5 kg and I did not bring a trolley.

Yamaha RX-A3010 yan brader? Ang mahal naman 100k? Nasa $1500 lang ang Yamaha RX-A3010 sa ebay.

(http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/5162/yamahae.png)

calling rampage
elmer how much quote ng 3010 mo
naku may aabangan akong 3800 ulit hahaha

Yamaha RX-A2010 lang yun akin brader di ko kaya ung A3010. Anno naman yang 3800 na sinsabi mo?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: lncc63 on May 19, 2012 at 11:24 PM
Thanks Bros.  Yes, it does seem expensive relative to the eBay or Amazon prices.  $1500 translates to less than P80k all-in.  Stuff are really expensive here in Japan nowadays.  Good for me as I really have no immediate plans of upgrading.

The 3800 mentioned is my current AVR.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 19, 2012 at 11:36 PM
Thanks Bros.  Yes, it does seem expensive relative to the eBay or Amazon prices.  $1500 translates to less than P80k all-in.  Stuff are really expensive here in Japan nowadays.  Good for me as I really have no immediate plans of upgrading.

The 3800 mentioned is my current AVR.

yammy ni sir louis ung 3800

elmer - i mean chineck mo din kasi un alam kong a2010 ung gamit mo
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 20, 2012 at 12:29 AM
Thanks Bros.  Yes, it does seem expensive relative to the eBay or Amazon prices.  $1500 translates to less than P80k all-in.  Stuff are really expensive here in Japan nowadays.  Good for me as I really have no immediate plans of upgrading.

The 3800 mentioned is my current AVR.

Ah nag mamadali kasi ako kasi nasa office ako ayun dinatnat ko na naman ang issue so PDVD + issue at the office. Why not consider those made in japan na mga receiver like dedon if japan pa din nila ginagawa. ;D ;D

yammy ni sir louis ung 3800

elmer - i mean chineck mo din kasi un alam kong a2010 ung gamit mo

Ang masama ang balak bibilhin na pala ung 3800 pilahan mo na agad wag mo na pakawalan. Alam ko $1499 ang nakita ko na pinakamababa na price na nakita ko last time na nagcheck ako.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raffyph on May 21, 2012 at 10:49 AM
I'm sure the 809 is an excellent receiver.. I've also considered that before buying the Aventage...

But if it's me i'll get the Aventage 2000, well depende din kasi sa Model... pag 3009 na or Aventage 2000.. i'll get the 3009 pero pag A3010 na usapan i'll probably get the A3010..

But again i've been a fan of Yamaha because of my experience with their receivers.. Never pa ako naka experience nang Onkyo though..

Sir, what model would you recommend? I've been reading about these receivers but there are too many models, may galing US na v110 pa and i cant differentiate which ones are the new models. I'm planning to use it with PSB Image series speakers. With my 20-40k budget, these are the models I saw in the marketplace:
RXV871-bnew
RXV3000AV-used
RXV1700tiAV-used
RXV2600tiAV-used
RXV2700tiAV-used
RXV2600-used
RXV765-used
all are 110v...or should i go for the 220v bnew rxv771?... ???...
and probably after a few months ill connect a NAD326BEE...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 21, 2012 at 11:18 AM
Sir, what model would you recommend? I've been reading about these receivers but there are too many models, may galing US na v110 pa and i cant differentiate which ones are the new models. I'm planning to use it with PSB Image series speakers. With my 20-40k budget, these are the models I saw in the marketplace:
RXV871-bnew
RXV3000AV-used
RXV1700tiAV-used
RXV2600tiAV-used
RXV2700tiAV-used
RXV2600-used
RXV765-used
all are 110v...or should i go for the 220v bnew rxv771?... ???...
and probably after a few months ill connect a NAD326BEE...


If ako tatanungin mo i will not get it locally price of RX771 @44k SRP with 10% discount if cash if i'm not mistaken the last time i seen here at PDVD. Price of Aventage RX-A1010 or RX-A1000 less nasa 30k+ lang sama mo na shipping even via AIR yan nasa less than 50k pa din.  ;D ;D ;D

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/PDVD/yamaha.jpg)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raffyph on May 21, 2012 at 11:39 AM
If ako tatanungin mo i will not get it locally price of RX771 @44k SRP with 10% discount if cash if i'm not mistaken the last time i seen here at PDVD. Price of Aventage RX-A1010 or RX-A1000 less nasa 30k+ lang sama mo na shipping even via AIR yan nasa less than 50k pa din.  ;D ;D ;D

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/PDVD/yamaha.jpg)
Sakto I have a friend na on vacation sa US, I can ask her to bring it here for me. Based on your experience, nahaharang ba ito sa customs at nat-tax pa pag dating dito? and do you know which online stores I could buy the rx-a1010? amazon lang kasi ako usually pag US..I appreciate your help sir
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 21, 2012 at 11:46 AM
Sakto I have a friend na on vacation sa US, I can ask her to bring it here for me. Based on your experience, nahaharang ba ito sa customs at nat-tax pa pag dating dito? and do you know which online stores I could buy the rx-a1010? amazon lang kasi ako usually pag US..I appreciate your help sir

I have no experience with bringing unit at the airport i know nahaharang yan sa laki ng box and i don't go to US kasi ala naman ako pang punta dun. I just shop at ebay and have it AIR ship for 1 week. My unit has been purchase at ebay with usabargain.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raffyph on May 21, 2012 at 11:58 AM
I have no experience with bringing unit at the airport i know nahaharang yan sa laki ng box and i don't go to US kasi ala naman ako pang punta dun. I just shop at ebay and have it AIR ship for 1 week. My unit has been purchase at ebay with usabargain.  ;D ;D

I see. Then to bring it here, what courier do you use? So mas recommended din talaga to buy new models instead of those old but higher models i mentioned? Because of the features?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 21, 2012 at 12:02 PM
I see. Then to bring it here, what courier do you use? So mas recommended din talaga to buy new models instead of those old but higher models i mentioned? Because of the features?

Actually ung RX1010 is a new model also but the A2010 is the higher version and the A3010 is the top of the line of Aventage model. Siyempre higher model mas maganda pero ang tanung mamaximize mo ba ang use sa paglalagyan mo? Yung A2010 ko kasi kaya ko maximize yun 9.2 na setup kasi nasa dedicated HT and small room lang din pero it can accomodate 9.2 kaya di ko na pinag isipan yung A3010 kasi di naman kaya ng room ko ang 12.2. Kung sa tingin mo di kaya ng pag lalagyan mo ang 9.2 get the A1010 but if you know na kaya ang 9.2 speakers get the A2010. YGPM on the shipping that i use take note no tax na pag dating un and pick up mo na lang sa office nila puwede mo din paship pero additional pay na ulet un. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raffyph on May 21, 2012 at 12:43 PM
Actually ung RX1010 is a new model also but the A2010 is the higher version and the A3010 is the top of the line of Aventage model. Siyempre higher model mas maganda pero ang tanung mamaximize mo ba ang use sa paglalagyan mo? Yung A2010 ko kasi kaya ko maximize yun 9.2 na setup kasi nasa dedicated HT and small room lang din pero it can accomodate 9.2 kaya di ko na pinag isipan yung A3010 kasi di naman kaya ng room ko ang 12.2. Kung sa tingin mo di kaya ng pag lalagyan mo ang 9.2 get the A1010 but if you know na kaya ang 9.2 speakers get the A2010. YGPM on the shipping that i use take note no tax na pag dating un and pick up mo na lang sa office nila puwede mo din paship pero additional pay na ulet un. ;D ;D ;D
Tingin ko ok na yung a1010 sakin..medyo na murahan lang ako dito sa mga nakita ko.
RXV3000AV-used
RXV1700tiAV-used
RXV2600tiAV-used
RXV2700tiAV-used
RXV2600-used
higher but old models...ang problem lang..I dunno how old these units are :-/
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 21, 2012 at 12:50 PM
Tingin ko ok na yung a1010 sakin..medyo na murahan lang ako dito sa mga nakita ko.
RXV3000AV-used
RXV1700tiAV-used
RXV2600tiAV-used
RXV2700tiAV-used
RXV2600-used
higher but old models...ang problem lang..I dunno how old these units are :-/

Why get a use if you can get a bnew one in that price range.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: lncc63 on May 21, 2012 at 09:52 PM
Why get a use if you can get a bnew one in that price range.  ;D ;D

I'm not really against brand new as long as I don't have to pay for the "brand".  One reason though to get used is that you can be sure it is not a lemon.  The problem with seconds is that you can't really be sure if it has not been abused.  Aesthetics are of course not a problem but looks are only half the equation assuming you give equal weight to "form and substance".
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 21, 2012 at 09:56 PM
I'm not really against brand new as long as I don't have to pay for the "brand".  One reason though to get used is that you can be sure it is not a lemon.  The problem with seconds is that you can't really be sure if it has not been abused.  Aesthetics are of course not a problem but looks are only half the equation assuming you give equal weight to "form and substance".

Yes brader tama lalo na pag kilala mo ang pag bibilhan mo and it have a personal warranty. Pero sometimes dahil sa katagal na din dun lumalabas ang issue. Buti na lang nakuha ko ang A2010 ko in a good price even B Stock. I'm not on the brand but the feature and price para sulit ang bibilhin.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: lncc63 on May 22, 2012 at 04:35 AM
I agree.  Our 3800 was a display unit :) though it was sold with a brand new remote.

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: joaquinibe on May 31, 2012 at 12:44 AM
mga master hingi lang ako ng advice, anong magandang ipares sa rx-a1010? okay ba ang monitor audio mr series yung front mr6 or yamaha ns-555 or ns-777? or anong ma rerecomend nyon speaker for movies and music.

mura na ba yung rx-a1010 sa 43k. or mas mura dyan sa pinas.

salamat
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Stagea on May 31, 2012 at 02:39 AM
mga master hingi lang ako ng advice, anong magandang ipares sa rx-a1010? okay ba ang monitor audio mr series yung front mr6 or yamaha ns-555 or ns-777? or anong ma rerecomend nyon speaker for movies and music.

mura na ba yung rx-a1010 sa 43k. or mas mura dyan sa pinas.

salamat

Listen ka muna ng mga type mong speakers before purchasing. I'm sure you'd gravitate towards something.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: joaquinibe on May 31, 2012 at 03:28 AM
Listen ka muna ng mga type mong speakers before purchasing. I'm sure you'd gravitate towards something.



maraming salamat master stagea.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 31, 2012 at 04:46 AM
mga master hingi lang ako ng advice, anong magandang ipares sa rx-a1010? okay ba ang monitor audio mr series yung front mr6 or yamaha ns-555 or ns-777? or anong ma rerecomend nyon speaker for movies and music.

mura na ba yung rx-a1010 sa 43k. or mas mura dyan sa pinas.

salamat

AFAIK wala pa ata aventage na available locally lalo na yung mga new model.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: R1DVD on May 31, 2012 at 10:10 AM
2 weeks ago, I was at 5th Avenue, Shangrila and I was told models upto a1010 are available locally.   Forgot the price though. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: joaquinibe on May 31, 2012 at 12:26 PM
sir xrampage

anong speakers ang gamit mo sa a2010 mo? kasi kaunti lang ang difference ng presyo sa a2010 kaysa sa a1010. nasa 54k lang d2 sa saudi.

salamat sir.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: joaquinibe on May 31, 2012 at 12:27 PM
2 weeks ago, I was at 5th Avenue, Shangrila and I was told models upto a1010 are available locally.   Forgot the price though. 

ganun ba sir. dibale papacanvas ko nalang kay commander kung mag kano price sa 5th Ave.

salamat.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jun 02, 2012 at 05:59 AM
sir xrampage

anong speakers ang gamit mo sa a2010 mo? kasi kaunti lang ang difference ng presyo sa a2010 kaysa sa a1010. nasa 54k lang d2 sa saudi.

salamat sir.

54k lang ung A2010? Polk ang ipair ko na speaker kasi un ang inapprove ng congress na budget.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: joaquinibe on Jun 03, 2012 at 02:26 AM
54k lang ung A2010? Polk ang ipair ko na speaker kasi un ang inapprove ng congress na budget.  ;D ;D

yes sir 54k lang converted sa pesos. original price nyan d2 nasa 5900 rials less 20%. naka sale mag raramadan na kasi. rti series ba sir ang ipapares mo dyan.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jun 03, 2012 at 02:41 AM
yes sir 54k lang converted sa pesos. original price nyan d2 nasa 5900 rials less 20%. naka sale mag raramadan na kasi. rti series ba sir ang ipapares mo dyan.

Yes RTI series A7, CSI A6 and FXI A6 with SVS sub PB12. magkalapit lang pala kuha ko sa price jan. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: abcerase on Jun 13, 2012 at 12:17 AM
Good am sirs. I am new into the "audio" world and have been canvassing for my 1st (hopefully) receiver-speaker system. I have been reading na maganda and reliable ang yamaha -- although I can only afford the 471 series (hopefully, dumating na yun 473 dito)

What would be the speakers that would be the best fit for a yamaha receiver? (I am planning to build an inexpensive 5.1 system).

Thank you very much!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mikz023 on Jun 13, 2012 at 05:32 AM
Good am sirs. I am new into the "audio" world and have been canvassing for my 1st (hopefully) receiver-speaker system. I have been reading na maganda and reliable ang yamaha -- although I can only afford the 471 series (hopefully, dumating na yun 473 dito)

What would be the speakers that would be the best fit for a yamaha receiver? (I am planning to build an inexpensive 5.1 system).

Thank you very much!

Many speakers can fit to your receiver. Polk, psb, b&w etc.. But better you audition it in our local distributors.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: oliver1154 on Jun 13, 2012 at 08:45 AM
hi yamaha users.
my yamaha rxv340 recently broke down after almost 10 years in service.
i brought it to audio world and they quoted p3.6k to have it repaired (p1.5k labor + p2.1k parts.)
is it still worth it to have it repaired? or just buy a newer model?
please advise.
thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Jun 13, 2012 at 11:09 PM
hi yamaha users.
my yamaha rxv340 recently broke down after almost 10 years in service.
i brought it to audio world and they quoted p3.6k to have it repaired (p1.5k labor + p2.1k parts.)
is it still worth it to have it repaired? or just buy a newer model?
please advise.
thanks.


If you have the budget buy a new one... If not then repair or tambay ka Market Place.. you can get a receiver for as low as 5k, sometimes may mas mababa pa..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: oliver1154 on Jun 14, 2012 at 09:58 PM
Seems I have to hunt at the market place...
I called audio world earlier for updates, I was told that the part(s) would have to be ordered from Yamaha JAPAN and it would take around 2-3months.
Tsk tsk tsk!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Jun 15, 2012 at 01:52 PM
Seems I have to hunt at the market place...
I called audio world earlier for updates, I was told that the part(s) would have to be ordered from Yamaha JAPAN and it would take around 2-3months.
Tsk tsk tsk!

bullcrap to them bro! its just another way of saying buy a new receiver. try sa park square sound dimension they will fix them. if not sa raon beside ng ANG brothers, theres a reputable official service repair of pioneer amp pero tumatanggap sila ng yamaha. my 995 has broken last 2008 they fixed it and literally showed the inside what they did. walang pinalitan na parts nag loose solder lang, ayun they only charged me 1k, upto now my 995 is playing like a horse sa haus with my kid playing all day with music and movies. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: oliver1154 on Jun 15, 2012 at 08:40 PM
bullcrap to them bro! its just another way of saying buy a new receiver. try sa park square sound dimension they will fix them. if not sa raon beside ng ANG brothers, theres a reputable official service repair of pioneer amp pero tumatanggap sila ng yamaha. my 995 has broken last 2008 they fixed it and literally showed the inside what they did. walang pinalitan na parts nag loose solder lang, ayun they only charged me 1k, upto now my 995 is playing like a horse sa haus with my kid playing all day with music and movies. 

thanks for the advice hattori.
will definitely try the shop in raon.
hope they are still in operation.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: SoundProof on Jun 19, 2012 at 02:30 PM
Guys ano mas maganda?
473 or 567?

plano ko rti A1 as fronts and dsw440. (cheap set up lang naman gusto ko 2.1)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jun 19, 2012 at 02:37 PM
Guys ano mas maganda?
473 or 567?

plano ko rti A1 as fronts and dsw440. (cheap set up lang naman gusto ko 2.1)

better bili ka muna receiver saka mo iaudition mag speakers sa shop
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jun 19, 2012 at 02:56 PM
better bili ka muna receiver saka mo iaudition mag speakers sa shop

+1

Pero as per claim ng iba ok ang POLK sa yammy receiver.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Jun 19, 2012 at 07:18 PM
better bili ka muna receiver saka mo iaudition mag speakers sa shop

Or hanap ka nang shop na may Yamaha receiver and Polk Speakers..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: uybrian on Jul 01, 2012 at 10:55 PM
Sights n sounds may yamaha n polk audio, just recently went there.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Jul 02, 2012 at 06:21 PM
New Yamaha's

Aventage 3020, 2020, 1020 etc...

http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/aventage/
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Jul 02, 2012 at 08:47 PM
New Yamaha's

Aventage 3020, 2020, 1020 etc...

http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/aventage/

Hmmm newer models coming out,...

 ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Jul 03, 2012 at 04:09 PM
Hmmm newer models coming out,...

 ;)

Yup.. meaning bababa yung xx10's nila.... Though the new models has Airplay and 4k na..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jul 03, 2012 at 04:26 PM
Ang ganda naman nito brader Jayson!!!

(http://data.yamaha.jp/sdb/product/image/others/raw/r/rx-a3020_black_u/01928F7626AB4CF3892657AB01002F04_12075.jpg)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Jul 03, 2012 at 04:27 PM
Ang ganda naman nito brader Jayson!!!

(http://data.yamaha.jp/sdb/product/image/others/raw/r/rx-a3020_black_u/01928F7626AB4CF3892657AB01002F04_12075.jpg)

He he he.. ang ganda nga he he he........ Pag mayaman na ako makakabili na ako nyan he he he
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Jul 03, 2012 at 10:54 PM
for me kahit aventage 720 lang pagtyatyagaan ko na  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: xDJx on Jul 04, 2012 at 11:56 PM
Hi!  :) may nakatry na ba ng RX-V463? and any idea kung nasa magkano yung ganun? Newbie po. Starting pa lang sa pagsetup.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Jul 05, 2012 at 09:36 AM
I just demoed the RX-A2010,...
And it sounded so nice,...
Matched with a Definitive Technology Super Towers,
WOW,...

But I'll wait for the RX-A2020,
Best Buy hasn't received their stocks yet,...
Now time to save up and be extra nice to the wife,..  ::)

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Jul 05, 2012 at 09:38 AM
I just demoed the RX-A2010,...
And it sounded so nice,...
Matched with a Definitive Technology Super Towers,
WOW,...

But I'll wait for the RX-A2020,
Best Buy hasn't received their stocks yet,...
Now time to save up and be extra nice to the wife,..  ::)



Maganda talaga ang Aventage... Your future A2020 is to drool for..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dzanos on Jul 07, 2012 at 01:55 PM
Kasya po kaya sa rx-v671 ang monster cable banana plugs?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jul 07, 2012 at 02:19 PM
Maganda talaga ang Aventage... Your future A2020 is to drool for..

Pag may 4K video and mababa na ang price siguro may bago na ulet. Drool mode talaga sa A2020 pero masaya na ako sa 2010 ko. Upgrade na lang pag yung 4K video labas and affordable na lahat na nun upgrade. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: reybossing on Jul 09, 2012 at 12:13 PM
newbie ako dito..ask ko lang may nagbigay sa akin nang avr yamaha rv440...paano ba ang setting nito,,,ano ang db na bawat speakers center mainl/r at surround speakers...ano ba yun rear center speakers kailang ba bumili pa for increase of good soundsthanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: odyopayl on Jul 09, 2012 at 02:15 PM
newbie ako dito..ask ko lang may nagbigay sa akin nang avr yamaha rv440...paano ba ang setting nito,,,ano ang db na bawat speakers center mainl/r at surround speakers...ano ba yun rear center speakers kailang ba bumili pa for increase of good soundsthanks
Bro, This is simply RTFM Problem
or Google it!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackdee on Jul 12, 2012 at 06:32 AM
Good day guys,

ask ko lang nanonoud ako ng movie ka gabi and i just noticed
that my DSP A1 left channel ay medyo mahina compare sa center at right channel..

so i did test tone same parin at i tried the right speaker connect to the left (baka speaker yung sira) so i could confirm nga mahina talaga..

ano po problem nito?

TIA
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Jul 12, 2012 at 04:19 PM
Good day guys,

ask ko lang nanonoud ako ng movie ka gabi and i just noticed
that my DSP A1 left channel ay medyo mahina compare sa center at right channel..

so i did test tone same parin at i tried the right speaker connect to the left (baka speaker yung sira) so i could confirm nga mahina talaga..

ano po problem nito?

TIA

Check the Speaker Configuration Levels of left and right channel in receiver
Check the source playing, may source kasi minsan na talagang di pantay ang output
Check the connection of + and - sa speaker
Check the Balance setting of your receiver
Kung playing from PC or Laptop may balance setting din
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Jul 12, 2012 at 04:21 PM
Good day guys,

ask ko lang nanonoud ako ng movie ka gabi and i just noticed
that my DSP A1 left channel ay medyo mahina compare sa center at right channel..

so i did test tone same parin at i tried the right speaker connect to the left (baka speaker yung sira) so i could confirm nga mahina talaga..

ano po problem nito?

TIA
from your test scenario, it seems your left channel amp has an issue. have it check by reputable shops na din. (not sure though kung may reset yung DSP A1 para factory default yung setting)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackdee on Jul 12, 2012 at 07:51 PM
Check the Speaker Configuration Levels of left and right channel in receiver
Check the source playing, may source kasi minsan na talagang di pantay ang output
Check the connection of + and - sa speaker
Check the Balance setting of your receiver
Kung playing from PC or Laptop may balance setting din

i tried everything bro. ganun parin ngayun ko lang na noticed. huhuhuhu pa check ko bukas..


from your test scenario, it seems your left channel amp has an issue. have it check by reputable shops na din. (not sure though kung may reset yung DSP A1 para factory default yung setting)

AFAIK pag na unplug ko si DSP then when i get watch movied nag ddfault cya.




ano po ba ang case nito isnt my voltage? kasi minsan nag lolow volatge ako dito.. im using only power grid 1k watts  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Jul 12, 2012 at 07:59 PM
i tried everything bro. ganun parin ngayun ko lang na noticed. huhuhuhu pa check ko bukas..


AFAIK pag na unplug ko si DSP then when i get watch movied nag ddfault cya.




ano po ba ang case nito isnt my voltage? kasi minsan nag lolow volatge ako dito.. im using only power grid 1k watts  ??? ??? ???

Everytime you unplug and plug it again nag rereset lahat nang settings to default?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackdee on Jul 12, 2012 at 08:02 PM
Everytime you unplug and plug it again nag rereset lahat nang settings to default?

yes bro. kung naka plug lang yun avr ko.. pero yung naka switch off sa avr. hindi cya na ddfault.

but kung unplug lahat back to dfault.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Jul 12, 2012 at 09:40 PM
yes bro. kung naka plug lang yun avr ko.. pero yung naka switch off sa avr. hindi cya na ddfault.

but kung unplug lahat back to dfault.

Means you have a faulty battery or capacitor.. Madali lang palitan yun... mas nakaka worry yung hindi pantay ang tunog nang left and right channel mo... So basically your receiver has two issues... Bring it to Service center na and have it checked.. Sayang yan, High end and really nice sounding receiver..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackdee on Jul 13, 2012 at 08:52 AM
Means you have a faulty battery or capacitor.. Madali lang palitan yun... mas nakaka worry yung hindi pantay ang tunog nang left and right channel mo... So basically your receiver has two issues... Bring it to Service center na and have it checked.. Sayang yan, High end and really nice sounding receiver..


oo nga im worried talaga. i did adjust the balance kasi sa DSP you cant adjust to the remote
nasa front panel yung balance nya, so adjust ko -2 to the left para pantay sila..

but iba talaga pag balance. huhuhu
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Clondalkin on Jul 13, 2012 at 09:18 AM
First aid muna

Have you tried shorting the Pre-Out and the Power- Amp-In connectors of all channels?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: reynold on Jul 13, 2012 at 09:32 AM
Hi Jackdee,

I have a DSP-A1 which was replaced only yesterday by Onkyo 805, but from my experience with DSP-A1, di naman nangyayari sa unit ko yung mga issues mo... Have it check with a professional technician, sayang yan, one of the best sounding receiver pa rin yan until now, DSP-A1 is still a beast...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackdee on Jul 13, 2012 at 11:51 AM
Hi Jackdee,

I have a DSP-A1 which was replaced only yesterday by Onkyo 805, but from my experience with DSP-A1, di naman nangyayari sa unit ko yung mga issues mo... Have it check with a professional technician, sayang yan, one of the best sounding receiver pa rin yan until now, DSP-A1 is still a beast...


nice to hear from you bro. ikaw lang ang hinihintay ko mag give comment
kasi ikaw lang may DSP na active dito hihihi

try ko mamaya thru pre-outs baka walang sugat. huhuhu


i love this amp since i owned yamaha 1500 before.

yes its a beast amp bro. na iinis ako mag linis ng kwarto ko ang bigat kasi  :D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: cookies on Jul 24, 2012 at 11:31 AM
Hello mga sirs,
Ask lang po ako ng tulong nyo regarding the remote control of my R-XV 730, di po gumagana yung volume control nung remote, pero working yung ibang functions. Meron po bang universal remote control for yamaha receivers, and saan po kaya pwedeng makabili kung meron. Kahit po 2nd hand ok na sakin.
Many thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: merdenoms on Aug 05, 2012 at 05:21 PM
i'm using an rx-373 amplifier and my computer pc as a source of HD movies, the two are bridged by spdif so  the pc could transfer the sound data to my amplifier and send it to my speakers. My question is, what settings on my amplifier is suitable for watching ripped bluray movies 5.1 DTS?


Currently, im using 5.1 stereo channel (cinema dsp) on my amplifier..... napansin ko lang parang lahat ng boses lumalabas sa front, center, at left speakers. I also tried Pro Logic pero hindi tumutunog yung sub ko. May mali ba sa settings ko? Dapat ba while watching HD movies 5.1 stereo channel ang gamitin?

Maraming salamat!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 05, 2012 at 05:33 PM
i'm using an rx-373 amplifier and my computer pc as a source of HD movies, the two are bridged by spdif so  the pc could transfer the sound data to my amplifier and send it to my speakers. My question is, what settings on my amplifier is suitable for watching ripped bluray movies 5.1 DTS?


Currently, im using 5.1 stereo channel (cinema dsp) on my amplifier..... napansin ko lang parang lahat ng boses lumalabas sa front, center, at left speakers. I also tried Pro Logic pero hindi tumutunog yung sub ko. May mali ba sa settings ko? Dapat ba while watching HD movies 5.1 stereo channel ang gamitin?

Maraming salamat!

check mo maige ung file kung DTS ..minsan kasi sa folder name DTS pero hindi pala...


did you try other files?
check your manual hahaha..just kidding...
kindly check the option na dapat dts ang lalabas
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: merdenoms on Aug 05, 2012 at 05:57 PM
yep sir... lahat na po tinry ko na HD rip na lahat 5.1 dts ganon pa din lumalabas sa amplifier (5.1 stereo). Dapat ba lalabas pa rin si DTS dun sa yamaha amplifier kahit wala pa akong surround speakers?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 05, 2012 at 05:59 PM
yep sir... lahat na po tinry ko na HD rip na lahat 5.1 dts ganon pa din lumalabas sa amplifier (5.1 stereo). Dapat ba lalabas pa rin si DTS dun sa yamaha amplifier kahit wala pa akong surround speakers?

DTS ang dapat lumabas dun mapa HDMI or optical ang gamit

btw anu ba source mo? PC right?
not sure kung may gagalawin ka sa setting sa pc - somehow like bitstream para ung avr ang magdecode..
standard surr?  kalikotin mo ung mga dsp na pagpipilian dapat lalabas ang DTS
try mo DOLBY
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: merdenoms on Aug 05, 2012 at 06:04 PM
pinindot ko din yung program.. ang lumalabas lang stereo, 5.1 stereo, pro logic (hindi tumutunog yung subwoofer pag pinili ko). Sige, basa basa muna ako ng manual. Tancha ko baka meron pang iibahin sa computer e para passthrough lang ang gawin nya papunta sa amplifier
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 05, 2012 at 06:07 PM
pinindot ko din yung program.. ang lumalabas lang stereo, 5.1 stereo, pro logic (hindi tumutunog yung subwoofer pag pinili ko). Sige, basa basa muna ako ng manual. Tancha ko baka meron pang iibahin sa computer e para passthrough lang ang gawin nya papunta sa amplifier
kasi kung lumalabas lang e 5.1 or 7.1 ang natatangap malamang ni avr is stereo den pwede nya somehow iconvert with the following option pero kapag DTS ung natangap lalabas ung DTS da receiver
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: trinity1123 on Aug 05, 2012 at 06:09 PM
i'm using an rx-373 amplifier and my computer pc as a source of HD movies, the two are bridged by spdif so  the pc could transfer the sound data to my amplifier and send it to my speakers. My question is, what settings on my amplifier is suitable for watching ripped bluray movies 5.1 DTS?


Currently, im using 5.1 stereo channel (cinema dsp) on my amplifier..... napansin ko lang parang lahat ng boses lumalabas sa front, center, at left speakers. I also tried Pro Logic pero hindi tumutunog yung sub ko. May mali ba sa settings ko? Dapat ba while watching HD movies 5.1 stereo channel ang gamitin?

Maraming salamat!

Kahit 5.1 DTS ripped yang file mo kung wala naman DTS capability yang sound card mo,di talaga lalabas yan dun sa Amp. mo
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: merdenoms on Aug 05, 2012 at 06:17 PM
^sir, i'm using on board soundcard with spdif/optical out..... hindi ba dapat isesend ni PC yung sound(raw) sa amplifier via optical cable at bahala na si amplifier mag process ng DTS?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Aug 05, 2012 at 06:22 PM
^sir, i'm using on board soundcard with spdif/optical out..... hindi ba dapat isesend ni PC yung sound(raw) sa amplifier via optical cable at bahala na si amplifier mag process ng DTS?


You should check your PC if it's bitstreaming the DD or DTS. What player are you using?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: merdenoms on Aug 05, 2012 at 06:27 PM
i'm using VLC or KMPlayer sir =) might try this next saturday.

How to force VLC to use S/PDIF.

first go to Tools >> Preferences >> Audio, and then under "Output Module", select "Win32 waveOut extension output." You should now see a check box that says "Use S/PDIF when available." Tick it, click "Save" and you should be good to go.


Eto na kaya ang sagot sa aking katanungan?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Wildfire™ on Aug 05, 2012 at 06:32 PM
i'm using VLC or KMPlayer sir =) might try this next saturday.

How to force VLC to use S/PDIF.

first go to Tools >> Preferences >> Audio, and then under "Output Module", select "Win32 waveOut extension output." You should now see a check box that says "Use S/PDIF when available." Tick it, click "Save" and you should be good to go.


Eto na kaya ang sagot sa aking katanungan?

oo settings lang ng player yan  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Aug 05, 2012 at 09:52 PM
i'm using VLC or KMPlayer sir =) might try this next saturday.

How to force VLC to use S/PDIF.

first go to Tools >> Preferences >> Audio, and then under "Output Module", select "Win32 waveOut extension output." You should now see a check box that says "Use S/PDIF when available." Tick it, click "Save" and you should be good to go.


Eto na kaya ang sagot sa aking katanungan?

Also make sure that the Audio of your source is DD or DTS, may files kasi na may Multiple Audio eh...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: merdenoms on Aug 17, 2012 at 08:33 AM
okay na mga sir. inayos ko lang yung configuration ng XBMC na dapat naka digital output. naglalaro na yung tunog pag nanonood ako ng HD movies =)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Allan_2180 on Aug 18, 2012 at 09:20 AM
Got this Yamaha Aventage RX-A810 from a fellow pdvd member:

(http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae331/Allan_2180/Yamaha_RX-A810_80.jpg)

It really goes well with my inexpensive Wharfedale Diamond 9.6 and
the sound become more livelier and has improved mids and highs as
compared with my old HarmanKardon AVR240 which is more on a laid-back side.
Dual HDMI Out is really convenient when you have both TV and Projector setup.

It's network function is simply awesome and the AV Controller App works well
with Android phone too!

(http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae331/Allan_2180/yamahantwrk.jpg)

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Aug 18, 2012 at 09:23 AM
Got this Yamaha Aventage RX-A810 from a fellow pdvd member:

(http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae331/Allan_2180/Yamaha_RX-A810_80.jpg)

It really goes well with my inexpensive Wharfedale Diamond 9.6 and
the sound become more livelier and has improved mids and highs as
compared with my old HarmanKardon AVR240 which is more on a laid-back side.
Dual HDMI Out is really cenvenient when you have both TV and Projector setup.

It's network function is simply awesome and the AV Controller App works well
with Android phone too!

(http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae331/Allan_2180/yamahantwrk.jpg)



Congratulations sir... Aventage ROCKS!!!!!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: NeilJohn on Aug 18, 2012 at 09:38 AM
Hi Guys,

Where's the best place to go for Yamaha Aventage receivers? Would this be a good partner to the PSB image series/ PSB imagine mini / dali zensors?

Your replies would be much appreciated!

Cheers!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Aug 18, 2012 at 03:03 PM
Hi Guys,

Where's the best place to go for Yamaha Aventage receivers? Would this be a good partner to the PSB image series/ PSB imagine mini / dali zensors?

Your replies would be much appreciated!

Cheers!

North American release lang po ata yung Aventage series. May RX-V equivalent models na available dito sa atin.

Try mo contact Watt HiFi if you want to try yung pairing ng PSB at Yamaha.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: NeilJohn on Aug 18, 2012 at 08:18 PM
Thanks Sir,

I'm currently looking at Yamaha, onkyo, and Denon receivers to pair with PSB. I've been smitten with the imagine minis when I first saw them, haven't heard them yet but it made me willing to slowly build my system up instead of getting the whole 5.1 at a snap. Unless of course the wife objects. :D The AV shop at timog recommended NAD to pair with PSB or even the blackstones as I'm after something small but the NAD is not within budget. I've also considered the B4s (seen the B5s) and its not that  pleasing aesthetically (important to the wife). Also considering B&W M-1s (already have the approval from the wifey) and the ASW608 as combo because the form factor and the reviews are quite favourable.

I'm a bit averse to bright sounding systems as I find them too fatiguing. Given my choices, would you suggest other options? Budget should be not more than 90k, the lower the better. Willing to build up slowly to significantly reduce costs.

Sorry for the long reply.

Thanks.




North American release lang po ata yung Aventage series. May RX-V equivalent models na available dito sa atin.

Try mo contact Watt HiFi if you want to try yung pairing ng PSB at Yamaha.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Aug 19, 2012 at 05:22 AM
Thanks Sir,

I'm currently looking at Yamaha, onkyo, and Denon receivers to pair with PSB. I've been smitten with the imagine minis when I first saw them, haven't heard them yet but it made me willing to slowly build my system up instead of getting the whole 5.1 at a snap. Unless of course the wife objects. :D The AV shop at timog recommended NAD to pair with PSB or even the blackstones as I'm after something small but the NAD is not within budget. I've also considered the B4s (seen the B5s) and its not that  pleasing aesthetically (important to the wife). Also considering B&W M-1s (already have the approval from the wifey) and the ASW608 as combo because the form factor and the reviews are quite favourable.

I'm a bit averse to bright sounding systems as I find them too fatiguing. Given my choices, would you suggest other options? Budget should be not more than 90k, the lower the better. Willing to build up slowly to significantly reduce costs.

Sorry for the long reply.

Thanks.

You probably visited Audible Illusions. They're quite accommodating, and they should be able to help with your needs.

The PSB HD10 is a long shot ahead of the B&W ASW608 when it comes to movie performance, if you're really after a small form factor.

The Imagine series speakers need quite some current, so I suggest going for a midlevel or higher AVR.

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: goma_23 on Aug 26, 2012 at 07:19 PM
Hi Sirs,

been a regular lurker here, and hopefully I have the bucks to start this project of mine. I'm not looking for a high end, series ,just enough to make the visitors drool, whenever i put some movies or music (specially those michael buble & maroon 5)

I was browsing just this weekend and saw RX-V473 and cost around 53,000yen (around Php 25k), but I'm a bit hesitant if bought here in Japan, since it is 110v.

Is RX-V473 my best choice as a newbie?
(assuming that I have a budget of Php 25k).

Do you think it is better to buy it locally in PH? do they have any price difference at all?

And what are the current recommended 5.1 speakers that I can source out with this model?
(I'm mostly MOVIES, with ASUS Media player and occassional sound trippin')

thanks in advance to those who can shed a light on my predicament,
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: uybrian on Aug 26, 2012 at 09:05 PM
Goma, are you residing in japan? If yes better buy there, but if your just a tourist better buy here in philippines or in other asia countries which are 220v and with tuner frequency 88 above. Rxv 473 is not bad since its higher than entry level rxv373. Good luck on your purchase, think and choose wisely.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Aug 27, 2012 at 07:59 AM
@goma

How much is your budget. You should put first your budget since you said high end.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 3j on Aug 27, 2012 at 06:30 PM
Hello po,

Help, My Yammy Remote control broke down due battery leak, is there any way to make work? Its for RXV-659.

TIA
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: goma_23 on Aug 28, 2012 at 06:49 AM
Goma, are you residing in japan? If yes better buy there, but if your just a tourist better buy here in philippines or in other asia countries which are 220v and with tuner frequency 88 above. Rxv 473 is not bad since its higher than entry level rxv373. Good luck on your purchase, think and choose wisely.

Hi Sir, I'm currently working here in Japan, but would install the system back home in PH, the only difference that i can see is the voltage (110v) , will I have a problem back home? specially if I buy speakers in PH (The only consideration that I'm thinking is that although the item is made in malaysia, the standards here is so strict that the store would take the time to inspect the item before handing it to you)

thanks & regards,
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: goma_23 on Aug 28, 2012 at 06:51 AM
@goma

How much is your budget. You should put first your budget since you said high end.

Hi Sir, as my previous post , i'm NOT looking for high end , just enough to have a quality audio experience, although my budget is as follows :

1. av receiver - around 20k-25k
2. speakers (5.1) - around 50k (conservative estimate) , although much better if I can source out quality speakers below this budget (as per newbie POV and recommendations from GURUs like you, hehehehe)


thanks & regards,
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: goma_23 on Aug 28, 2012 at 09:02 AM
Just for the update, I saw this Yamaha RX-V473B(Hyperlink - Discounted Price) (http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B007THORHY/ref=s9_simh_gw_p23_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=AN1VRQENFRJN5&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=10D2V9WVVXSKQRMM0J87&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=463376756&pf_rd_i=489986"), and found out I can buy it cheaper online, me idea po ba kayo how much is the price in Manila?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: uybrian on Aug 28, 2012 at 01:04 PM
wala pang rxv- 73 series sa pinas, 71 palang. ang 471 nasa +/-24500 ata sa sm appliances, try to consider also the fm tuner, sa japan kasi up to 88hz lang, in short useless dto ang japanese fm frequency tuner, sa speakers naman, napakaraming pagpipilian dto, audition mo nalang sa mga stores pagdating mo dto sa pinas.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: goma_23 on Aug 28, 2012 at 01:54 PM
wala pang rxv- 73 series sa pinas, 71 palang. ang 471 nasa +/-24500 ata sa sm appliances, try to consider also the fm tuner, sa japan kasi up to 88hz lang, in short useless dto ang japanese fm frequency tuner, sa speakers naman, napakaraming pagpipilian dto, audition mo nalang sa mga stores pagdating mo dto sa pinas.

Thanks for the input! siguro nga sa Pinas na lang, although trip ko talaga yung RX-V473 kase nakita ko yung demo dito sa shop, with network capability, iPOD/iPhone/iPad remote connection capability, I mean, eyecandy talaga! 

Any recommended stores na accomodating yung staffs?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Aug 28, 2012 at 02:17 PM
Thanks for the input! siguro nga sa Pinas na lang, although trip ko talaga yung RX-V473 kase nakita ko yung demo dito sa shop, with network capability, iPOD/iPhone/iPad remote connection capability, I mean, eyecandy talaga! 

Any recommended stores na accomodating yung staffs?

5th Avenue branches meron sila nyan.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: goma_23 on Aug 28, 2012 at 02:20 PM
5th Avenue branches meron sila nyan.

how much kaya price range sa 5th avenue?

baka december pa kase ako makauwi,

tia
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: uybrian on Aug 29, 2012 at 02:31 PM
so far, wala pang rxv- 73 series sa pinas puro 71 pa. don't know kung by sept or oct. meron na dto, alam mo naman ang pinas always late. try also sights & sounds store at shangrila for yamaha receivers.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raffyph on Aug 31, 2012 at 12:11 PM
Hi mga Sir, im wondering kung bakit ang dami nagbebenta ng aventage rx-a810 na slightly used. May problem kaya sa model nato? I checked the forums wala naman ako nabasang issues. Im suppose to buy the rx-a1010 but i checked the height hindi kakasya sa cabinet ko, kaya dun ako sa next best (i think) that would fit in my cabinet. I'm pairing it with PSB imagine series, i believe it has enough power naman to drive my speakers. Bakit kaya ang daming nagbebenta na slightly used? Hmmmm  ???
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Aug 31, 2012 at 12:26 PM
Hi mga Sir, im wondering kung bakit ang dami nagbebenta ng aventage rx-a810 na slightly used. May problem kaya sa model nato? I checked the forums wala naman ako nabasang issues. Im suppose to buy the rx-a1010 but i checked the height hindi kakasya sa cabinet ko, kaya dun ako sa next best (i think) that would fit in my cabinet. I'm pairing it with PSB imagine series, i believe it has enough power naman to drive my speakers. Bakit kaya ang daming nagbebenta na slightly used? Hmmmm  ???

I dont hear any issues regarding any Aventage model or series. Si toys4geeks yan ang AVR nya and i know he's happy and very satisfied with it... PM him for more info.. I'm an aventage user as well, the older Aventage  A2000
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Aug 31, 2012 at 01:05 PM
Hi mga Sir, im wondering kung bakit ang dami nagbebenta ng aventage rx-a810 na slightly used. May problem kaya sa model nato? I checked the forums wala naman ako nabasang issues. Im suppose to buy the rx-a1010 but i checked the height hindi kakasya sa cabinet ko, kaya dun ako sa next best (i think) that would fit in my cabinet. I'm pairing it with PSB imagine series, i believe it has enough power naman to drive my speakers. Bakit kaya ang daming nagbebenta na slightly used? Hmmmm  ???

Baka naman di sila satisfied and upgrade. Ano ba ang RFS nila? So far may Aventage A2010 is kicking good on my POLK A5.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Allan_2180 on Sep 01, 2012 at 10:27 AM
bought my RX-A810 as bnew last month,
so far I'm satisfied and wala pa ako nakikita na disadvantage.
Some are having doubt about its power ksi magaan daw (11Kgs)
pero it's still enough to sing my power-hungry Wharfedale 9.6,
no problem with YPAO settings, Haven't encountered any HDMI or Firmware issues yet.
Siguro kaya madai nagbebenta ng slightly used na A810 kasi old version na ito at mas kailangan nila
ng more than 100Watts/Ch, Airplay & the latest 3K 4K Pass-Through and Upscaling feature.
which I don't need for now, kaya IMHO, A810 is still the best bang for the buck.  :D

Hi mga Sir, im wondering kung bakit ang dami nagbebenta ng aventage rx-a810 na slightly used. May problem kaya sa model nato? I checked the forums wala naman ako nabasang issues. Im suppose to buy the rx-a1010 but i checked the height hindi kakasya sa cabinet ko, kaya dun ako sa next best (i think) that would fit in my cabinet. I'm pairing it with PSB imagine series, i believe it has enough power naman to drive my speakers. Bakit kaya ang daming nagbebenta na slightly used? Hmmmm  ???
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raffyph on Sep 04, 2012 at 07:16 PM
Thanks for your input! Lastly, is the Aventage rx-a810 considered midend already?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Sep 04, 2012 at 07:22 PM
bought my RX-A810 as bnew last month,
so far I'm satisfied and wala pa ako nakikita na disadvantage.
Some are having doubt about its power ksi magaan daw (11Kgs)
pero it's still enough to sing my power-hungry Wharfedale 9.6,
no problem with YPAO settings, Haven't encountered any HDMI or Firmware issues yet.
Siguro kaya madai nagbebenta ng slightly used na A810 kasi old version na ito at mas kailangan nila
ng more than 100Watts/Ch, Airplay & the latest 3K Pass-Through and Upscaling feature.
which I don't need for now, kaya IMHO, A810 is still the best bang for the buck.  :D


+1 Just get what you need.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: merdenoms on Sep 05, 2012 at 07:12 AM
okay lang ba ang rx-373 for 2.1 music setup o kailangan ko pa bumili ng separate na amplifier for music?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Sep 05, 2012 at 09:12 AM
Depends on the speaker. Rx373 is a decent starter receiver and it will do well with efficient speaker brands.
oh you can't connect an external amp to the 373 cause it doesn't have pre-outs
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Allan_2180 on Sep 05, 2012 at 10:30 PM
RX-A810

"Don't write off this 'entry-level' Aventage as yet. The RX-A810 is actually a marvelous choice if you are comfortable with a 7.2-channel receiver equipped with a more conservative power output. While it doesn't showcase as many IO ports as its A3010 sibling, like the number of optical inputs for instance, the A810 does feature similar audio and visual benefits like its counterparts. For instance, it houses the same Burr Brown DAC chipset, plus it also supports a bi-amp configuration if you prefer to assign the amps individually. Not to mention this receiver also supports HD audio formats such as Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD Master Audio among others. For calibration, the A810 uses Yamaha's multi-point YPAO and DSP Effect Normalization technologies which varies the CINEMA DSP parameters as determined by the reflected acoustics. At the video end, the A810 is able to process 3D signals and provide HD upscaling for lower resolutions as well."

source: http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/feature-sound-sight-exhibition-2011-yamaha-flaunts-new-aventage-series (http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/feature-sound-sight-exhibition-2011-yamaha-flaunts-new-aventage-series)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Sep 18, 2012 at 10:41 PM
The new set of AVENTAGE is out on market na here in the US,...
Looking at both the 2020 and the 1020,... Kung hindi ko rin naman maima-maximize ang 9.2
I might as well get the lower 1020,....

Ano ba ang magandang partner na speakers ng Yamaha,...
That's the next on the list,...

Cheers,...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Sep 18, 2012 at 10:46 PM
The new set of AVENTAGE is out on market na here in the US,...
Looking at both the 2020 and the 1020,... Kung hindi ko rin naman maima-maximize ang 9.2
I might as well get the lower 1020,....

Ano ba ang magandang partner na speakers ng Yamaha,...
That's the next on the list,...

Cheers,...

Wow... sir ABC get the 3020 he he he.......

I'm using PSB Image Speaks for my A2000 and i'm lovin it, Movies and Music.. I have experienced RTI's for my Yammy but it's too bright for me...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: lncc63 on Sep 18, 2012 at 11:04 PM
.. I have experienced RTI's for my Yammy but it's too bright for me...

This makes me not want to upgrade having no intention to change my speakers.  The problem is I think 3D is coming of age but my RX-V3800 is not capable.  So which way to go?

To make matters worse, the next generation in the RX series - the RX-V3900, has been discontinued it seems.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Sep 18, 2012 at 11:11 PM
This makes me not want to upgrade having no intention to change my speakers.  The problem is I think 3D is coming of age but my RX-V3800 is not capable.  So which way to go?

To make matters worse, the next generation in the RX series - the RX-V3900, has been discontinued it seems.

Bro.. di ba pwedeng split ang signal nang HDMI? One is going to the receiver(Audio), the other goes to the PJ para yung Video di na dadaan nang Receiver?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: lncc63 on Sep 18, 2012 at 11:45 PM
Bro.. di ba pwedeng split ang signal nang HDMI? One is going to the receiver(Audio), the other goes to the PJ para yung Video di na dadaan nang Receiver?

Uy parang pwede :).  Let see if the experts can advice. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Sep 18, 2012 at 11:47 PM
Uy parang pwede :).  Let see if the experts can advice.

Ganyan kasi ginagawa sa stores pag audition nang TV para ma compare mo same source, pero in your case sa Receiver ang isa yung isa sa PJ
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Sep 19, 2012 at 07:08 AM
Wow... sir ABC get the 3020 he he he.......

I'm using PSB Image Speaks for my A2000 and i'm lovin it, Movies and Music.. I have experienced RTI's for my Yammy but it's too bright for me...

Yamaha RX-A3020: $1995.95
Yamaha RX-A2020: $1599.95
Yamaha RX-A1020: $1099.95

If budget permits, baka lumusot nga sa 3020  :o
isa isa lang kasi ang bili ko, after this ay set of floorstanders naman,...

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Sep 19, 2012 at 07:56 AM
Yamaha RX-A3020: $1995.95
Yamaha RX-A2020: $1599.95
Yamaha RX-A1020: $1099.95

If budget permits, baka lumusot nga sa 3020  :o
isa isa lang kasi ang bili ko, after this ay set of floorstanders naman,...

Is that amazon prices? I saw a trusted ebay seller selling the 3020 for 1800$..

Anyway i suggest you go with the 3020.... :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Sep 19, 2012 at 09:17 AM
Is that amazon prices? I saw a trusted ebay seller selling the 3020 for 1800$..

Anyway i suggest you go with the 3020.... :)

TUKSO ka sir, TUKSO,..

 >:D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Sep 19, 2012 at 09:28 AM
TUKSO ka sir, TUKSO,..

 >:D

He he he.... Hindi naman... Just pointing to right direction para matagal na pag upgrade...(1 year ;D)

Pagnagsawa ka na sa 3020... ibato mo dito  sa pinas at sasaluhin ko he he he i guess pag lumabas na ang 3030 next year
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Sep 22, 2012 at 02:34 PM
He he he.... Hindi naman... Just pointing to right direction para matagal na pag upgrade...(1 year ;D)

Pagnagsawa ka na sa 3020... ibato mo dito  sa pinas at sasaluhin ko he he he i guess pag lumabas na ang 3030 next year

Ang tanung ko lang bat ang liit lang ng minahal ng 3020 sa 2020 even the othe rmodel like my 202 sa 3010 something fishy even other brand ganun din. Nasa $100+ lang ata minahal ng mga new model ng Yamaha.  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Sep 22, 2012 at 06:18 PM
Ang tanung ko lang bat ang liit lang ng minahal ng 3020 sa 2020 even the othe rmodel like my 202 sa 3010 something fishy even other brand ganun din. Nasa $100+ lang ata minahal ng mga new model ng Yamaha.  ;) ;) ;)

Konting power lang naman kasi ang add nila eh at illuminated remote he he he... Yun lang ang actual difference he he he...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Sep 23, 2012 at 02:31 PM
Konting power lang naman kasi ang add nila eh at illuminated remote he he he... Yun lang ang actual difference he he he...

Saka ung ibang features like 4k video, airplay and other.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Sep 23, 2012 at 04:41 PM
Saka ung ibang features like 4k video, airplay and other.  ;) ;)

I mean difference nang xx20 models from lowest to highest...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: m35ius on Sep 25, 2012 at 10:56 PM
tanong lang po ok lang ba for around $100 for a used yamaha rx-v992 receiver? plano kong gamitin for music 2.1 setup.

thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: badoy on Sep 27, 2012 at 08:39 AM
@m35ius
maganda performance ng 992 sa music pero pag sa movies medyo bitin. matibay sya for abusive user subok ko na yan sa 15 year old ko na 992 still alive and punching..hehehe..nga pala saan mo nakita yan worth $100 na 992.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: m35ius on Sep 27, 2012 at 09:54 AM
@badoy: thanks for the reply. nakita ko sa mga local thrift shop malapit dito sa amin.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raffyph on Oct 05, 2012 at 11:42 AM
Hi sir, i just received the rx-a810 i ordered from ebay. everything's okay naman, but when i checked the unit ang nakalagay sa front face and back is rx-a800. I checked the pics in yamaha.com and mukang rx-a810 dapat talaga nakalagay. I dont know if because i got a b-stock or was it a mistake by usa bargain deals? The box was properly sealed naman, i dont think it was opened. I just would like to know if what you got has the rx-a810 printed in the unit or sa box lang. I'd really appreciate your feedback sir. Thank you.

bought my RX-A810 as bnew last month,
so far I'm satisfied and wala pa ako nakikita na disadvantage.
Some are having doubt about its power ksi magaan daw (11Kgs)
pero it's still enough to sing my power-hungry Wharfedale 9.6,
no problem with YPAO settings, Haven't encountered any HDMI or Firmware issues yet.
Siguro kaya madai nagbebenta ng slightly used na A810 kasi old version na ito at mas kailangan nila
ng more than 100Watts/Ch, Airplay & the latest 3K 4K Pass-Through and Upscaling feature.
which I don't need for now, kaya IMHO, A810 is still the best bang for the buck.  :D

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Allan_2180 on Oct 06, 2012 at 04:56 PM
here's actual pix of my RX-A810
di ko na napicturan yung back panel...
"RX-A810" is printed on both box and the unit.
pki-post mo nman pix ng front at rear panel, rare case ata na ngka-typo sila sa production.

RX-A810:
(http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae331/Allan_2180/DSC_5550.jpg)

RX-A800:
(http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae331/Allan_2180/rxa800bl_angle.jpg)
Hi sir, i just received the rx-a810 i ordered from ebay. everything's okay naman, but when i checked the unit ang nakalagay sa front face and back is rx-a800. I checked the pics in yamaha.com and mukang rx-a810 dapat talaga nakalagay. I dont know if because i got a b-stock or was it a mistake by usa bargain deals? The box was properly sealed naman, i dont think it was opened. I just would like to know if what you got has the rx-a810 printed in the unit or sa box lang. I'd really appreciate your feedback sir. Thank you.

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: toys4geeks on Oct 06, 2012 at 05:00 PM
Hi sir, i just received the rx-a810 i ordered from ebay. everything's okay naman, but when i checked the unit ang nakalagay sa front face and back is rx-a800. I checked the pics in yamaha.com and mukang rx-a810 dapat talaga nakalagay. I dont know if because i got a b-stock or was it a mistake by usa bargain deals? The box was properly sealed naman, i dont think it was opened. I just would like to know if what you got has the rx-a810 printed in the unit or sa box lang. I'd really appreciate your feedback sir. Thank you.


may difference! i have an A800 AFAIR, 

A810 -- Bluetooth + USB + DLNA + 8 HDMI inputs (instead of 6)

http://receivers.findthebest.com/compare/76-81/Yamaha-RX-A810-vs-Yamaha-RX-A800

i just got my A800 under 300 so i cant complain :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Oct 10, 2012 at 10:35 AM
This month marks the 125th year since Torakusu Yamaha built his first reed organ in Japan, launching what has become the world's largest instrument manufacturer. To commemorate this milestone and celebrate 125 years of passion and performance, Yamaha is kicking off a year filled with special promotions and events!

You can enter right now by visiting the Yamaha website and logging in to your account. You'll notice that "Yamaha EasyPass" has been revamped and is now simply "My Account", but don't worry. Your account settings and history will remain intact and your existing email/password or social sign-in will grant you access into the new My Account.

HTH
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raffyph on Oct 11, 2012 at 12:07 AM
Ayan mga sir, if you'll notice the box is for an Rx-a810 but the white sticker says Rx-a800 (pointed it). And the serial number in the unit matches the one printed in the white sticker. Nangyari na kaya 'to sa iba or minalas lang talaga ako? I know alot of pdvd members bought units from that ebay seller. I guess, all i can ask the seller is a partial refund (price difference of the two models), I obviously can't send this back. Any ideas with the current price of the rx-a800?

(http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq255/rafaelperan/Yamaha-A810%20or%20800/image6.jpg)
(http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq255/rafaelperan/Yamaha-A810%20or%20800/image7.jpg)
(http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq255/rafaelperan/Yamaha-A810%20or%20800/image8.jpg)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: rthirtyfourgtr on Oct 11, 2012 at 08:28 AM
^ i believe minalas ka lang. whether intentional or not, we can't tell for sure. based on the info you have given so far, it's apparent that what left the factory (or service center) was an RX-A800. could be the logistic's fault (labeling the package as an RX-A810) or could be the seller's fault (thinking he could get away with selling an RX-A800 in a RX-A810 box as an RX-A810). the point is, someone somewhere f*cked-up.

either way, i believe your request for a refund on the price difference is reasonable and a good seller will not give you any hassle with that.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Allan_2180 on Oct 11, 2012 at 08:52 AM
lumalabas pala RX-A800 was placed inside RX-A810 box, then sold as RX-A810...
akala ko ung white print sa front panel at sticker sa back panel ng unit mismo ang may mali,
accdg. to Ebay Buyer Protection...baka pwede ka mag-raise ng dispute as "Item not as described"?

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Oct 11, 2012 at 04:49 PM
Di
Ayan mga sir, if you'll notice the box is for an Rx-a810 but the white sticker says Rx-a800 (pointed it). And the serial number in the unit matches the one printed in the white sticker. Nangyari na kaya 'to sa iba or minalas lang talaga ako? I know alot of pdvd members bought units from that ebay seller. I guess, all i can ask the seller is a partial refund (price difference of the two models), I obviously can't send this back. Any ideas with the current price of the rx-a800?

(http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq255/rafaelperan/Yamaha-A810%20or%20800/image6.jpg)
(http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq255/rafaelperan/Yamaha-A810%20or%20800/image7.jpg)
(http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq255/rafaelperan/Yamaha-A810%20or%20800/image8.jpg)

Did you made a complaint sa ebay seller?

Ive been buying from ebay US and never encountered such issue.. Can you pm us the seller so we can stay away from them?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Oct 12, 2012 at 08:32 AM
Now I'm torn,...

I was talking to my tech guru back home,
he too was an avid YAMAHA user, the word is "was"
he taught me everything I knew tungkol sa hobby na ito,
and was asking him some pointers re: receivers, speakers and subwoofer....

He told me to ditch Yamaha, at DENON na daw ang kunin ko, he gave me
a certain model, the Denon AVR4311, and ipartner ko daw sa Paradigm Monitor 7 V.6,
Center is ADP190, and top it with a SVS PC12NSD....

 :o
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Allan_2180 on Oct 12, 2012 at 11:13 AM
im not an expert but
maybe it depends on what model of Receiver & what type/brand of Speakers was used...
probably a low-end receiver & with mismatched speakers kaya hindi naging maganda and blending,
audio quality still depends on the listener.
Maybe Denon goes well with Paradigm and Yamaha does not, kaya ayaw na sa Yamaha.


 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Oct 12, 2012 at 11:37 AM
im not an expert but
maybe it depends on what model of Receiver & what type/brand of Speakers was used...
probably a low-end receiver & with mismatched speakers kaya hindi naging maganda and blending,
audio quality still depends on the listener.
Maybe Denon goes well with Paradigm and Yamaha does not, kaya ayaw na sa Yamaha.


 

+1

Kanya kanya din kasi yan... I owned a Denon, NAD and HK receivers and mas nagustuhan ko SQ nang Yamaha....
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: odyopayl on Oct 14, 2012 at 06:07 PM
+1

Kanya kanya din kasi yan... I owned a Denon, NAD and HK receivers and mas nagustuhan ko SQ nang Yamaha....
+1 based din sa experience ko Denon and Marantz mas ok sa akin Yamaha when it comes to HT
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Oct 14, 2012 at 07:07 PM
lumalabas pala RX-A800 was placed inside RX-A810 box, then sold as RX-A810...
akala ko ung white print sa front panel at sticker sa back panel ng unit mismo ang may mali,
accdg. to Ebay Buyer Protection...baka pwede ka mag-raise ng dispute as "Item not as described"?

I think it's an RX-A800 that used an RX-A810 box dahil B-Stock (yun ang available packaging). The white sticker is from the factory.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Oct 14, 2012 at 08:48 PM
I think it's an RX-A800 that used an RX-A810 box dahil B-Stock (yun ang available packaging). The white sticker is from the factory.

Pero bad trip yun if it was posted as 810...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: uybrian on Oct 14, 2012 at 11:39 PM
ANyone of you guys here are using the remote of the yamaha receiver for controlling the tv & dvd player?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: m35ius on Oct 17, 2012 at 10:21 PM
anyone here got a chance to audition/test the yamaha r-s700?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Oct 19, 2012 at 05:35 PM
Yahooo to fellow Yamaha lovers.

Yamaha selected as the RX-V673 is selected as the Best Cinema Home Amplifier for 2012 by WhatHiFi http://www.whathifi.com/awards/2012/home-cinema-amplifiers (http://www.whathifi.com/awards/2012/home-cinema-amplifiers)

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Oct 20, 2012 at 01:34 AM
anyone here got a chance to audition/test the yamaha r-s700?

It's a smooth-sounding stereo receiver, reminiscent of models before it.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: uybrian on Oct 21, 2012 at 12:54 AM
Yahooo to fellow Yamaha lovers.

Yamaha selected as the RX-V673 is selected as the Best Cinema Home Amplifier for 2012 by WhatHiFi http://www.whathifi.com/awards/2012/home-cinema-amplifiers (http://www.whathifi.com/awards/2012/home-cinema-amplifiers)

Really? Lucky me


Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sdsmds on Oct 21, 2012 at 02:02 AM

Swerte mo bro. Yan din sana buy ko kaya Lang 573 Lang available sa 5th ave at over sa budget ko Hahaha
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Oct 21, 2012 at 06:58 PM
mga sir, is the yamaha rx-v371 good enough for starters or is it too low end na?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Oct 21, 2012 at 09:33 PM
what speaker are you planning to pair the yamaha rx-v371 with?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Oct 21, 2012 at 09:51 PM
still looking for speakers. pero what i have in mind are probably the ff:

yamaha ns 8390 fs for fronts
yamaha ns p150 for center and surrounds
yamaha yst sw315 sub

or

MS Carnival Series, Wharfedales 9 or 10 cinema or some entry level Polk audios..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 21, 2012 at 09:57 PM
^You could also consider Infinity Primus series ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Oct 21, 2012 at 10:01 PM
i plan to use it 50% movies, 30%gaming and 20% music. so far yamaha and ms carnivals pa lang na try ko i-audition kasi yung lang readily available dito sa davao. i am not in a hurrry pa naman kasi kulang pa rin ang budget as of now. i might order sa manila nalang probs ko lang is di ko ma audition..for the speakers budget ko siguro ~35k ano ba kaya jan? medjo newbie pa eh!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Oct 22, 2012 at 10:21 AM
i plan to use it 50% movies, 30%gaming and 20% music. so far yamaha and ms carnivals pa lang na try ko i-audition kasi yung lang readily available dito sa davao. i am not in a hurrry pa naman kasi kulang pa rin ang budget as of now. i might order sa manila nalang probs ko lang is di ko ma audition..for the speakers budget ko siguro ~35k ano ba kaya jan? medjo newbie pa eh!

for 35K since Yamaha gagamitin mo

PSB Image B6
PSB Image C5

Ipon ka na lang for surrounds.. or if you have some mini compo surrounds around, you can temporarily use it
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Oct 22, 2012 at 01:08 PM
mga sir, is the yamaha rx-v371 good enough for starters or is it too low end na?

Pretty happy with the V371. For the longest time been holding selling it due to its performance.
We hooked it up AA Genesis BS and Center and Cube Surround.
Had 40 12-year old boys playing at the game shop last Saturday and the 371 was able to provide sufficient power.
We were playing MTVs while kids were playing computer games.
Parents were also very impressed with the Sound Quality.

Feel Free to visit us to check out the V371 with Genesis Set-up and determine if it suits your preference for HT.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jetstar on Oct 25, 2012 at 01:51 AM
Just got the RX-V667 from SnS last month:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8172/8047597318_7d4c7db650_z.jpg)
*Actual pics.

I'm really happy with it.  When I checked the features of the newly released models (73 series), it doesn't have any pre-outs and Phono Input.  Yes, new models may have the wireless bells and whistles but paired with Apple TV (only 99USD), the 667 rocks.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8181/8047592879_449085a2a1_z.jpg)
*Actual pics.

I'm just wondering why Yamaha removed those features on 673.  I guess you can't have it all on the mid-range models.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Oct 25, 2012 at 03:00 AM
Just got the RX-V667 from SnS last month:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8172/8047597318_7d4c7db650_z.jpg)
*Actual pics.

I'm really happy with it.  When I checked the features of the newly released models (73 series), it doesn't have any pre-outs and Phono Input.  Yes, new models may have the wireless bells and whistles but paired with Apple TV (only 99USD), the 667 rocks.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8181/8047592879_449085a2a1_z.jpg)
*Actual pics.

I'm just wondering why Yamaha removed those features on 673.  I guess you can't have it all on the mid-range models.

Congrats sir... Yamaha rocks........
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Allan_2180 on Oct 25, 2012 at 08:51 AM
anong speaker po ginamit nyo with RX-V667?  :)

Just got the RX-V667 from SnS last month:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8172/8047597318_7d4c7db650_z.jpg)
*Actual pics.

I'm really happy with it.  When I checked the features of the newly released models (73 series), it doesn't have any pre-outs and Phono Input.  Yes, new models may have the wireless bells and whistles but paired with Apple TV (only 99USD), the 667 rocks.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8181/8047592879_449085a2a1_z.jpg)
*Actual pics.

I'm just wondering why Yamaha removed those features on 673.  I guess you can't have it all on the mid-range models.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jetstar on Oct 25, 2012 at 04:35 PM
anong speaker po ginamit nyo with RX-V667?  :)


Fronts: Wharfedale Diamond 9.1
Center: Wharfedale Diamond 9.CS
Surround: Wharfedale Diamond 10.SR
Sub: PolkAudio PSW110

Using only 5.1 setup since my couch is against the wall.

Pics:  http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,153273.0.html
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Oct 25, 2012 at 04:43 PM
Fronts: Wharfedale Diamond 9.1
Center: Wharfedale Diamond 9.CS
Surround: Wharfedale Diamond 10.SR
Sub: PolkAudio PSW110

Using only 5.1 setup since my couch is against the wall.

Pics:  http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,153273.0.html

Good combination ang WHarfs and Yammy base on my experience when i was using Wharfs before...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Oct 25, 2012 at 04:46 PM
wow ganda namimiss ko ung yammy ko hehehe...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: uybrian on Oct 27, 2012 at 12:04 AM
Actually Sa 773 may preouts, sa 673 wala.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jetstar on Oct 27, 2012 at 12:54 AM
Actually Sa 773 may preouts, sa 673 wala.

Yup but it's more expensive na.  667+AppleTV works better for me than 673.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: karloff on Oct 27, 2012 at 08:48 AM
magkano po price ng RX-V371 o HTR-3064 locally?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackryan on Oct 27, 2012 at 09:05 AM
Fronts: Wharfedale Diamond 9.1
Center: Wharfedale Diamond 9.CS
Surround: Wharfedale Diamond 10.SR
Sub: PolkAudio PSW110

Using only 5.1 setup since my couch is against the wall.

Pics:  http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,153273.0.html

How much did you get your yammy for? Where?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jetstar on Oct 27, 2012 at 11:09 PM
How much did you get your yammy for? Where?


Got it from Sights and sounds. Check with Vic for the price. =)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jackryan on Oct 28, 2012 at 09:46 AM
thanks... :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Oct 29, 2012 at 03:37 AM
ano po mas ok sa dalawa? rxv 371 or rxv 471?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Oct 29, 2012 at 03:40 AM
ano po mas ok sa dalawa? rxv 371 or rxv 471?
taasan mo pa konti brader...hehe..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Oct 29, 2012 at 03:53 AM
yan lang kasi ang kaya ng budget..actually wala pa talaga budget pinag iipunan pa..haha!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Oct 29, 2012 at 04:38 AM
yan lang kasi ang kaya ng budget..actually wala pa talaga budget pinag iipunan pa..haha!
hehe...daming lalabas na used dyan na mid to high sa dec abang ka nalang...kesa bnew na mababa specs
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Oct 29, 2012 at 04:51 AM
oo nga tingin2x lang muna sa MP..problema ko lang kasi talaga ang layo ko eh..davao pa! so plus shipping pa talaga kung sakali and di ko rin ma audition..haay! hehe..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jetstar on Oct 30, 2012 at 02:14 AM
ano po mas ok sa dalawa? rxv 371 or rxv 471?

I'll go for 471. If you wanna go higher, get 671 and skip 571.  571 is just the 7.1 version of the 471 with the same power output for each channel.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Oct 30, 2012 at 12:18 PM
Quote
ano po mas ok sa dalawa? rxv 371 or rxv 471?

I have both and prefer the RX-V471.
1) On Screen Display: 471(Yes) 371(None)
2) HDMI Pass through: 471(Yes) 371(None)
3) USB Port: 471(Yes) 371(None)
4) YPAO Calibration: 471(Yes) 371(None)
5) Speaker Connection: 471(Banana-5) 371 Banana(FL+FR)

Disadvantage of both, no pre-outs whereas the older models had pre-outs. grrrrr!
The V371 is excellent, it is just the 471 is better. HTH!

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Oct 30, 2012 at 05:03 PM
thank you for that detailed info cooltoyz..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: rexFi on Nov 06, 2012 at 01:15 PM
I have both and prefer the RX-V471.
1) On Screen Display: 471(Yes) 371(None)
2) HDMI Pass through: 471(Yes) 371(None)
3) USB Port: 471(Yes) 371(None)
4) YPAO Calibration: 471(Yes) 371(None)
5) Speaker Connection: 471(Banana-5) 371 Banana(FL+FR)

Disadvantage of both, no pre-outs whereas the older models had pre-outs. grrrrr!
The V371 is excellent, it is just the 471 is better. HTH!



Hi I just checked the specs of the 471, how about vs./compared to the 467 sir?

and how much pala sila? hehe.

thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: vladshoteyes on Nov 07, 2012 at 01:19 PM
does anyone know how much is the 673 and where can i buy one?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: rexFi on Nov 07, 2012 at 02:03 PM
does anyone know how much is the 673 and where can i buy one?

Hi, contact sir Vic (I forgot his PDVD username here lol)
He's selling the673 for 30K Php.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: vladshoteyes on Nov 07, 2012 at 03:11 PM
sir si sir Vic may shop ba or how can i contact him?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Nov 07, 2012 at 03:17 PM
sir si sir Vic may shop ba or how can i contact him?


Maybe he's talking about Vic of SnS
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: vladshoteyes on Nov 07, 2012 at 03:21 PM
cool. thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Nov 09, 2012 at 06:50 PM
has anyone tried to auditioned or owned the new yamaha 2012 models (rvx 373 and rvx 473)?

is it any good? and between the two ano mas ok? (sorry noob eh)

here's a link of the comparison chart: http://asia.yamaha.com/en/products/audio-visual/av-receivers-amps/rx-vx73_series/?selected=383669_383667_&mode=compare
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Nov 09, 2012 at 07:06 PM
Yamaha is yamaha, they will always be good if you are after quality manufacturing.  the tricky part is, what speakers will the yammy drive?  You can start with this idea, wharfdale + yammy = nice warm sound.  Do you already have speakers in mind?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Nov 09, 2012 at 07:19 PM
Yep.
Wharfe diamond 10s

Never had the chance to audition them personally pero accdg to reviews, yes they are warm and yun preference ko. I am from davao kasi and walang wharfes dito..masyadong limited ang market.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Nov 09, 2012 at 11:56 PM
Yep.
Wharfe diamond 10s

Never had the chance to audition them personally pero accdg to reviews, yes they are warm and yun preference ko. I am from davao kasi and walang wharfes dito..masyadong limited ang market.

dami natin kasama sa hobby nato na from davao, seek them out.  as for the wharf yammy combo, you cant go wrong with it.  used to have a complete set with that combo and very warm indeed.  music or movies panalo.  Wharf's are very relaxing to listen to.  How big is the room?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: uybrian on Nov 10, 2012 at 01:09 AM
has anyone tried to auditioned or owned the new yamaha 2012 models (rvx 373 and rvx 473)?

is it any good? and between the two ano mas ok? (sorry noob eh)

here's a link of the comparison chart: http://asia.yamaha.com/en/products/audio-visual/av-receivers-amps/rx-vx73_series/?selected=383669_383667_&mode=compare.              673 user here, so far very satisfied 2.0 palang set up ko nyan
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: rexFi on Nov 10, 2012 at 07:35 AM
Yamaha is yamaha, they will always be good if you are after quality manufacturing.  the tricky part is, what speakers will the yammy drive?  You can start with this idea, wharfdale + yammy = nice warm sound.  Do you already have speakers in mind?

PSB Alpha B1?

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Nov 10, 2012 at 07:38 AM
^ individually, both are very good.  but together, I have tyet to audition.  Onkyo PSB sounds good to me.  malambing ang tunog para sakin.  Try mo ask si bro Jason, iirc naka PSB + yamaha combo sya.  Image series me thinks...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Nov 10, 2012 at 09:17 AM
dami natin kasama sa hobby nato na from davao, seek them out.  as for the wharf yammy combo, you cant go wrong with it.  used to have a complete set with that combo and very warm indeed.  music or movies panalo.  Wharf's are very relaxing to listen to.  How big is the room?

prolly an estimate of 14x9 (ft)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 10, 2012 at 09:25 AM
Yep.
Wharfe diamond 10s

Never had the chance to audition them personally pero accdg to reviews, yes they are warm and yun preference ko. I am from davao kasi and walang wharfes dito..masyadong limited ang market.
ok yan diamond 10 series brader...
best partner is pioneer hihihi
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Nov 10, 2012 at 09:40 AM
prolly an estimate of 14x9 (ft)

Ok ka na sa 10.2 dyan medium size lang naman eh, panalo na bookshelf.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 10, 2012 at 09:42 AM
Ok ka na sa 10.2 dyan medium size lang naman eh, panalo na bookshelf.
kung movies e ...sulit ang 10.7 diba brader aaron?
iniwan nya na ako sa kulaman e....namimiss ko na yan kulamin haha
10.7 and 10cm
surr 10dfs 
budget meal...sarap
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Nov 10, 2012 at 09:44 AM
kung movies e ...sulit ang 10.7 diba brader aaron?
iniwan nya na ako sa kulaman e....namimiss ko na yan kulamin haha
10.7 and 10cm
surr 10dfs 
budget meal...sarap

Ayan ang buong set up! Quote sakin dati dyan was at 40k lang ata, sa may listening room.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 10, 2012 at 09:52 AM
Ayan ang buong set up! Quote sakin dati dyan was at 40k lang ata, sa may listening room.

10.7 23k ata
10cm wait lang ng use sa MP mga 4.5k to 5.5k  bnew kasi 8k
10dfs 5.5k to 6k
wala pang 40k pwede na...

ayan dapat route ko before ...kaya lang napunta sa rtia series ng polk hihihi
pero still wanting this setup
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Nov 10, 2012 at 09:52 AM
kung movies e ...sulit ang 10.7 diba brader aaron?
iniwan nya na ako sa kulaman e....namimiss ko na yan kulamin haha
10.7 and 10cm
surr 10dfs 
budget meal...sarap

haha di kasi ako nagpapadala sa kulam..hahaha! matindi ata anting-anting ko..hihihi

Ayan ang buong set up! Quote sakin dati dyan was at 40k lang ata, sa may listening room.

may account ba dito ang listening room?

im thinking of getting the 10.5 for fronts then 10cm and dfs (next year na kung may budget na) plano ko kasi munang bumili ng tv for my room.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 10, 2012 at 09:56 AM
haha di kasi ako nagpapadala sa kulam..hahaha! matindi ata anting-anting ko..hihihi

may account ba dito ang listening room?

im thinking of getting the 10.5 for fronts then 10cm and dfs (next year na kung may budget na) plano ko kasi munang bumili ng tv for my room.
tawag kanalang brader
google mo lang number nila

you may contact rex of MCS as well sabihin mo refer ka ni derick baka makamura ko konti..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Nov 10, 2012 at 09:58 AM
salamat brader..nakapag inquire na ako kay sir vic and sir otep..minimal lang rin ang price diff..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 10, 2012 at 10:02 AM
salamat brader..nakapag inquire na ako kay sir vic and sir otep..minimal lang rin ang price diff..
masyado na kasi mura ang wharf sa pinas..pero compare mo sa ibang bansa mahal ang wharf..
yamaha ba gusto mo receiver?
ganda talaga yamaha... especially QC
but if wharf you need pio with that great synergy
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Nov 10, 2012 at 10:12 AM
right now am eyeing on the yamaha (rxv473) pero open for options pa rin naman ako since i plan on buying the gears prolly next year so mahaba-habang research pa to..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Nov 10, 2012 at 10:22 AM
Ito sir quote sakin ng listening room dati

10.7 -25000
10dfs - 6000
10cm-8600
10mx-13000

39.6 without sub and 52.5 with sub pero srp yan, may less 10% pa.

Pio 921 k -  25800
Yammy 671 - 33700

Cant remember if the avr's are srp also or discounted na.

Listening room number - 6329577 si Toby maasikaso kausap.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Nov 10, 2012 at 09:06 PM
Quote
10.7 -25000
10dfs - 6000
10cm-8600
10mx-13000

39.6 without sub and 52.5 with sub pero srp yan, may less 10% pa.

If this is the budget I would really recommend you first demo Anthony Audio Genesis for HT.
Ideal time to demo Anthony Audio now at the HiFi shown.
The money you can save on the HT set-up can go to an Audio set-up.

From experience most often a system is used 20% HT and 80% Audio.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Nov 10, 2012 at 10:34 PM
If this is the budget I would really recommend you first demo Anthony Audio Genesis for HT.
Ideal time to demo Anthony Audio now at the HiFi shown.
The money you can save on the HT set-up can go to an Audio set-up.

From experience most often a system is used 20% HT and 80% Audio.

Problema ata sir kasi asa cebu si sir aaron.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 10, 2012 at 10:54 PM
haha di kasi ako nagpapadala sa kulam..hahaha! matindi ata anting-anting ko..hihihi

may account ba dito ang listening room?

im thinking of getting the 10.5 for fronts then 10cm and dfs (next year na kung may budget na) plano ko kasi munang bumili ng tv for my room.

Di ka nag papakulam brader pero nag tatanung ka dito.  ^-^ ^-^ ^-^

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 10, 2012 at 11:37 PM
Problema ata sir kasi asa cebu si sir aaron.
narinig ko na kanina ung genesis hihihi
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Nov 10, 2012 at 11:55 PM
narinig ko na kanina ung genesis hihihi


Hindi type ni sister elmira eh
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 10, 2012 at 11:59 PM
Hindi type ni sister elmira eh
baka hindi pa nabreak in
medyo matigas..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 11, 2012 at 12:47 AM
baka hindi pa nabreak in
medyo matigas..

Yung A7 ko kasi kahit di pa nabreakin di naman ganun katigas.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Nov 11, 2012 at 08:29 AM
i am from davao po..kaya mahirap mag audition.

Di ka nag papakulam brader pero nag tatanung ka dito.  ^-^ ^-^ ^-^


hahaha! ngayon nga lang, pero last year pa ako kinukulam di derick..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Dollarman on Nov 12, 2012 at 04:41 PM
still looking for my first receiver,,,,anong model ng yamaha should i get? budget 30k to 50k for the receiver. will use it to power either wharfdales or polk. room is about 15ftx18ftx9ft. thanks...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Nov 12, 2012 at 05:24 PM
still looking for my first receiver,,,,anong model ng yamaha should i get? budget 30k to 50k for the receiver. will use it to power either wharfdales or polk. room is about 15ftx18ftx9ft. thanks...

With a 50k max budget you might be able to afford an aventage na sir.  Panalo receiver mo if you have that much budget.  May naaudition ka na ba?  Wharfs are good with yamaha and pioneer.  Polkies are ok with yamaha and onkyo.  Those are the only combo's ive heard with your speaker choices.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Dollarman on Nov 12, 2012 at 06:05 PM
yes sir!haha yamaha 677 and onkyo paired with polks. so medyo expanding my choices from pio. i heard the wharfdales too but on a diff system un. i kinda like how the wharfs sound. the onkyo was a 515 considering that it may have hdmi problems id like to see whats available with Yamaha  there sir and and idea of the prices. i read somewhere may 673 daw sa 30k. may other models ba you might recommend sir?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Nov 12, 2012 at 06:10 PM
yes sir!haha yamaha 677 and onkyo paired with polks. so medyo expanding my choices from pio. i heard the wharfdales too but on a diff system un. i kinda like how the wharfs sound. the onkyo was a 515 considering that it may have hdmi problems id like to see whats available with Yamaha  there sir and and idea of the prices. i read somewhere may 673 daw sa 30k. may other models ba you might recommend sir?


With your medium sized room i'd get a yamaha 771 or more recent yamaha model.  Important na kasi sa bigger rooms angpreouts, para pwede ka mag add ng power amp.  Kung wharf taeget mo sir may pio 1121 sa mp natin for 22k.  You cant go wrong with a pio wharf combo. And may pre out na ang 1121.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Cosmic79 on Nov 12, 2012 at 06:23 PM
yes sir!haha yamaha 677 and onkyo paired with polks. so medyo expanding my choices from pio. i heard the wharfdales too but on a diff system un. i kinda like how the wharfs sound. the onkyo was a 515 considering that it may have hdmi problems id like to see whats available with Yamaha  there sir and and idea of the prices. i read somewhere may 673 daw sa 30k. may other models ba you might recommend sir?

Yamaha with Polk Audio matches well. I think the Yamaha 677 has adequate features since it's a midrange model.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: derick7210 on Nov 12, 2012 at 10:49 PM
sir ask ko lang po kung magkano ang brand new ng yamaha rxv 530 thanks po
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jetstar on Nov 13, 2012 at 03:14 AM
Yamaha with Polk Audio matches well. I think the Yamaha 677 has adequate features since it's a midrange model.

I think you mean Yamaha RX-V667. It's quite older than 673 but more useful features and I think up to now more expensive than the newer models.  But as per review, the audio quality of 673 is better than 667.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Nov 13, 2012 at 10:00 AM
With your medium sized room i'd get a yamaha 771 or more recent yamaha model.  Important na kasi sa bigger rooms angpreouts, para pwede ka mag add ng power amp.  Kung wharf taeget mo sir may pio 1121 sa mp natin for 22k.  You cant go wrong with a pio wharf combo. And may pre out na ang 1121.

@Timithekid, I think both of us were able to try the Line Out Converter of markcrenz.
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,170670.0.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,170670.0.html)

No need to spend additional for Built-in Pre-out if price difference is significant. It is always good to have a pre-out but for the latest Yamaha models like 673 (except Avantage) the pre-out ports have been removed. Now there is a solution!

@Timithekid, what Yammy are you currently using and what AMP did you use?



Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Nov 13, 2012 at 12:07 PM
@Timithekid, I think both of us were able to try the Line Out Converter of markcrenz.
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,170670.0.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,170670.0.html)

No need to spend additional for Built-in Pre-out if price difference is significant. It is always good to have a pre-out but for the latest Yamaha models like 673 (except Avantage) the pre-out ports have been removed. Now there is a solution!

@Timithekid, what Yammy are you currently using and what AMP did you use?





Ah nagpagawa karin sir?  Not sure if i was the first to ask mark to build one but yeah thats what i use now to connect my avr to a power amp.

No more yammy sir, had a 595 before paired with wharf modus one six.  Power amp i have is a dv-500. Current avr now is a pio 921k.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Nov 13, 2012 at 01:36 PM
yamaha 1067 goes for around 50k-56k from 5th avenue.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Nov 13, 2012 at 01:54 PM
Quote
Ah nagpagawa karin sir?  Not sure if i was the first to ask mark to build one but yeah thats what i use now to connect my avr to a power amp.

@Timithekid,
Yes, got curious ordered one and tested it to be great. Exactly the same SQ as from Pre-out. PDvD Talent is Amazing and I have to thank you for starting that thread.

Connected a 471 to the Yamaha M40 and the Sound Quality greatly improved using the AMP.
The Line Out Converter saved resources for other projects instead of buying another Yammy with pre-out.
We use the M40(a,b,c) to test speakers Sound Quality with a press of button. Example
A) Polk
B) Warf
C) AA Genesis

 

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Nov 13, 2012 at 05:17 PM
@Timithekid,
Yes, got curious ordered one and tested it to be great. Exactly the same SQ as from Pre-out. PDvD Talent is Amazing and I have to thank you for starting that thread.

Connected a 471 to the Yamaha M40 and the Sound Quality greatly improved using the AMP.
The Line Out Converter saved resources for other projects instead of buying another Yammy with pre-out.
We use the M40(a,b,c) to test speakers Sound Quality with a press of button. Example
A) Polk
B) Warf
C) AA Genesis

 



My pleasure bro, glad it was useful to someone else aside from me. :)   Its night and day difference when you use a power amp, lalo na kung entry to mid level lang ang avr.  I hope more get to discover the thread or mods make it a sticky, the cost savings is significant in my opinion.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jetstar on Nov 14, 2012 at 01:27 AM
What about power consumption? Will it not consume so much power if line converter is connected to speaker outputs? Nag iinit pa rin ba ang receiver just like driving the speakers directly? Just a thought.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Nov 14, 2012 at 01:33 AM
yes the receiver would still emit heat if that is your question but the power consumption should relatively be the same as using preouts on a receiver because the outputs lead to a passive LOC.  AFAIK, even when just using preouts on an AVR, umiinit parin.  but I'd rather let the experts correct me on this kasi yung sakin based on observation lang, walang measurement tool na ginamit.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jetstar on Nov 14, 2012 at 02:13 AM
If that's the case I would suggest the RX-V673. Got no regrets on choosing the 667 but from what I've read, the sound quality has greatly improved.  It's just that I already have an AppleTV that the airplay feature of 673 is insignificant to my needs. I gave more preference on the Phono input and pre-outs.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: titor on Nov 23, 2012 at 07:02 AM
I just got a 671 from Amazon for $323 (shipped to CA). It was something I could not resist. Will pair it with either Infinity Primus 163 or some polks. Depends on what is on sale today  O0
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Nov 23, 2012 at 07:07 AM
One more day and you would have gotten it for $299...i just got notified by amazon...how i wish i had money to shop for these.  7 series kaya bumaba din? ::)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mikz023 on Nov 23, 2012 at 07:41 AM
Okay ba ang 671? anong 2011 model ba to?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: titor on Nov 23, 2012 at 07:59 AM
One more day and you would have gotten it for $299...i just got notified by amazon...how i wish i had money to shop for these.  7 series kaya bumaba din? ::)

I got it 299 w free shipping it's just that it was shipped to California and it's always a bummer since they collect tax.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Nov 23, 2012 at 08:13 AM
I got it 299 w free shipping it's just that it was shipped to California and it's always a bummer since they collect tax.

Ouch! Ang laki na pala ng tax sa cali! Deym.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 23, 2012 at 08:28 AM
Ouch! Ang laki na pala ng tax sa cali! Deym.

The yamaha aventage-A2010 price at amazon is a great buy at $1,099.00. I believe I got my unit at $1,300.  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: titor on Nov 23, 2012 at 10:15 AM
Ouch! Ang laki na pala ng tax sa cali! Deym.

ganyan talaga some states... they tax you. i really dont have a choice since i dont know anyone from other states.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Nov 23, 2012 at 03:10 PM
Ouch! Ang laki na pala ng tax sa cali! Deym.
there pretty much a bankrupt state. there doing everything just to keep themselves a float.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Nov 24, 2012 at 05:12 PM
can the new yamaha rxv 473 easily drive the wharfedale diamond 10s (10.5, 10cs, 10dfs, gx sub)?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Nov 25, 2012 at 06:44 PM
To fellow Yamaha users a few questions:
1) Do you use the YPAO calibration feature?
2) Which of the Settings do you use? Natural - Front - Flat?
3) What is your opinion of the calibration result? Does it satisfy your desired SQ?

Hope to get replies for additional knowledge.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 25, 2012 at 07:16 PM
To fellow Yamaha users a few questions:
1) Do you use the YPAO calibration feature?
2) Which of the Settings do you use? Natural - Front - Flat?
3) What is your opinion of the calibration result? Does it satisfy your desired SQ?

Hope to get replies for additional knowledge.

) Do you use the YPAO calibration feature? Yes
2) Which of the Settings do you use? Natural - Front - Flat? Natural
3) What is your opinion of the calibration result? Does it satisfy your desired SQ? If i does not satisfy me i ussually adjust it manually pag kasi nag kamali ka ng settings baka masira naman ang speaker or yung receiver so i ussually run the YPAO then manual na pag di ok ang output. Like mine nag YPAO ako sa Polk setup ko pero ang settings na nilagay niya large lahat pero it does not satisfy me so i adjusted to small with 40hz para sa SVS sub ko. Pag kasi nakalarge yung Fronts ko wala na napupunta sa SVS sub so i set to small yung fronts but 40hz para ung output parang laerge pa din siya. ^-^ ^-^
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Nov 25, 2012 at 09:16 PM

1) Do you use the YPAO calibration feature? No... I calibrated the speakers via SPL meter lang
2) Which of the Settings do you use? Through(No equalization is being done by the receiver)
3) What is your opinion of the calibration result? Does it satisfy your desired SQ? I'm happy with the way i calibrated it..



Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Nov 25, 2012 at 09:22 PM
1 YPAO Calibrated (xrampage)- 1 Manual Calibration (Courage)

Thanks Guys.
I hope there will be more feedback from other users.

@xrampage,
As for me I use Front for HT and Flat for music
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 26, 2012 at 05:20 AM
sagot ako kahit iba amp ko haha
1) Do you use the YPAO calibration feature? yes but i change it afterwards
it outputs Fronts at -3 > -6
same as Center

i manually set the center speaker to 0db leaving the fronts to - 6
i want more vocals sa HT

all speakers will be set to large for sure i set it to small

fronts 40hz
center 60
surr 60



2) Which of the Settings do you use? Through(No equalization is being done by the receiver)
3) What is your opinion of the calibration result? Does it satisfy your desired SQ? I'm happy with the way i calibrated it.. it does it just so happen that i need to tweak the settings.



Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Nov 26, 2012 at 04:09 PM
@raider125jeigh, what is the advantage of setting the fronts to small instead of increasing the volume/output level of the Sub-woofer in the settings?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Nov 26, 2012 at 04:56 PM
@raider125jeigh, what is the advantage of setting the fronts to small instead of increasing the volume/output level of the Sub-woofer in the settings?

If i may,  setting the fronts to small will direct low frequency signals to your sub, making it more active.  If you just increase the volume, it will only be louder but that loudness will only be heard when a signal is sent to your sub, no signal, no sound.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: rthirtyfourgtr on Nov 26, 2012 at 05:04 PM
and if i may add, one of the primary reasons why fronts are recommended to be set to small is that subwoofers in general reproduce bass better than typical speakers.

in the end though, it's you who decide which sounds better to your ears.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Nov 26, 2012 at 05:28 PM
@raider125jeigh, what is the advantage of setting the fronts to small instead of increasing the volume/output level of the Sub-woofer in the settings?

I suggest you set all speakers small @ 80hz so that all frequency below that will be sent to sub.. Check also how low your speakers can go.. then listen... you can adjust it to your liking after 80-60-40...

My fronts can go as low as 30hz but i set it to 80hz pag movies, para sa akin mas maganda ang details nya at that frequency pero pag music ako i set it to large... Experiment experiment experiment until magustuhan nang ears mo ang SQ..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 26, 2012 at 05:39 PM
I suggest you set all speakers small @ 80hz so that all frequency below that will be sent to sub.. Check also how low your speakers can go.. then listen... you can adjust it to your liking after 80-60-40...

My fronts can go as low as 30hz but i set it to 80hz pag movies, para sa akin mas maganda ang details nya at that frequency pero pag music ako i set it to large... Experiment experiment experiment until magustuhan nang ears mo ang SQ..
eto thx settings to kay brader jason...

kung saan ka masaya cooltoys

elms ung sayo huwag mo i 40hz lahat...small setting sya pero lumalabas sa center and surr nakalarge....
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 26, 2012 at 05:41 PM
eto thx settings to kay brader jason...

kung saan ka masaya cooltoys

elms ung sayo huwag mo i 40hz lahat...small setting sya pero lumalabas sa center and surr nakalarge....


Haha
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 26, 2012 at 05:58 PM
Haha
hehe now ko lang nakita...pero kung happy ka dyan ok lang din naman pero lumalabas na large din ung surr and center - ung a7 lang hindi kasi a7 can go low more at 40hz
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: rexFi on Nov 26, 2012 at 06:13 PM
I suggest you set all speakers small @ 80hz so that all frequency below that will be sent to sub.. Check also how low your speakers can go.. then listen... you can adjust it to your liking after 80-60-40...

My fronts can go as low as 30hz but i set it to 80hz pag movies, para sa akin mas maganda ang details nya at that frequency pero pag music ako i set it to large... Experiment experiment experiment until magustuhan nang ears mo ang SQ..

I agree with this. :) I accidentally found about it because I was researching the SW+ feature of my receiver. :D

..and I still haven't upgraded to a Yamaha receiver. :'(
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Nov 26, 2012 at 06:44 PM
eto thx settings to kay brader jason...

kung saan ka masaya cooltoys

elms ung sayo huwag mo i 40hz lahat...small setting sya pero lumalabas sa center and surr nakalarge....


Di ko na gets kung anong nangyayari dito? pag naka 40hz lumalabas sa center ang alin?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 26, 2012 at 06:52 PM
Di ko na gets kung anong nangyayari dito? pag naka 40hz lumalabas sa center ang alin?

hihihi

kapag naka 80hz ka kasi lahat ng speaker mo 80hz below sub ang magoutput
kapag ang front nakaset as 40hz  maglalabas din sya ng output hangang 41/40hz bukod sa nangagaling sa sub na 80hz below...

ung kay elms kasi technically small pero naka 40hz which somehow large na kasi mapipilitan ung speaker ng maglabas ng output till 40hz


Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Nov 26, 2012 at 06:58 PM

hihihi

kapag naka 80hz ka kasi lahat ng speaker mo 80hz below sub ang magoutput
kapag ang front nakaset as 40hz  maglalabas din sya ng output hangang 41/40hz bukod sa nangagaling sa sub na 80hz below...

ung kay elms kasi technically small pero naka 40hz which somehow large na kasi mapipilitan ung speaker ng maglabas ng output till 40hz




Ang laking overlap non ah, 40. :o di kaya sumobra na bass non?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 26, 2012 at 07:05 PM
Ang laking overlap non ah, 40. :o di kaya sumobra na bass non?
sa fronts ok lang un... ung 30hz ni jason na PSB
pwede ilarge all the way kasi kayang maglow pero advisable na to have it either 40hz ,50hz, 60,70,or 80hz thx
kasi ung 40 hz to 20 kaya ng SVS sub saluhin lahat un...

kaya ung ibang naka a9 which can go low up to 25hz if im not mistaken kahti walang sub ok na...
natatamad ako magcheck ng speaker specs hehe..

nalalakihan ka sa over lap diba... o isipin mo ung surr naka 40hz... so it means LARGE sya - im not sure if it can go low to 30 sa surr.... tamad ako magcheck ng specs...
technically nakikita small but the setting from the speaker itself ay LARGE
talo pa ung setting ng ibang SUB...kasi ung ibang sub can only go up to 50,40,30hz
boomy subs..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Nov 26, 2012 at 07:09 PM
sa fronts ok lang un... ung 30hz ni jason na PSB
pwede ilarge all the way kasi kayang maglow pero advisable na to have it either 40hz ,50hz, 60,70,or 80hz thx
kasi ung 40 hz to 20 kaya ng SVS sub saluhin lahat un...

kaya ung ibang naka a9 which can go low up to 25hz if im not mistaken kahti walang sub ok na...
natatamad ako magcheck ng speaker specs hehe..

nalalakihan ka sa over lap diba... o isipin mo ung surr naka 40hz... so it means LARGE sya - im not sure if it can go low to 30 sa surr.... tamad ako magcheck ng specs...
technically nakikita small but the setting from the speaker itself ay LARGE
talo pa ung setting ng ibang SUB...kasi ung ibang sub can only go up to 50,40,30hz
boomy subs..

Well, its not a question naman kung kaya lalo na with the a9.  Never ko kasi sinubukan kasi feeling ko magiging muddy na ang bass.  So far ok nako sa 80 hz na naka small lahat.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Nov 26, 2012 at 07:13 PM

hihihi

kapag naka 80hz ka kasi lahat ng speaker mo 80hz below sub ang magoutput
kapag ang front nakaset as 40hz  maglalabas din sya ng output hangang 41/40hz bukod sa nangagaling sa sub na 80hz below...

ung kay elms kasi technically small pero naka 40hz which somehow large na kasi mapipilitan ung speaker ng maglabas ng output till 40hz




Akala ko kasi may problema ha ha ha....

Anyway the reason why it's not advisable na i set to lower frequency specially pag ginawa mong large eh sa pelikula may mga frequency na lower than 20hz.. if in case pumasok to sa speakers mo and your speakers is capable only of lets say 60hz wala kang madidinig sa speakers mo pero maglalaro yung drivers mo... kapag mataas ang volume matindi ang pag labas masok nang drivers mo and may result to driver damage... another reason is nasasapawan nang low frequecy minsan ang details and pumapanget ang tunog..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 26, 2012 at 07:13 PM
Well, its not a question naman kung kaya lalo na with the a9.  Never ko kasi sinubukan kasi feeling ko magiging muddy na ang bass.  So far ok nako sa 80 hz na naka small lahat.


you'll see the difference for gun shots kapag kaya nya ng malalim kapag maganda ang fronts..

ang advise ko lang kay elms kahit ung surr and center gawin 60hz haha.. pero kung happy naman sya e - subjective yan...hihihi

naka 40hz kasi lahat...
ang hindi ko alam ung setting ng sub... if naka 80hz
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Nov 26, 2012 at 07:14 PM
Well, its not a question naman kung kaya lalo na with the a9.  Never ko kasi sinubukan kasi feeling ko magiging muddy na ang bass.  So far ok nako sa 80 hz na naka small lahat.

Actually malaking possibiliy nga ito and because muddy yung lumalabas sa speakers.. nasasapawan nya yung details pumapanget ang tunog...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 26, 2012 at 07:16 PM
Akala ko kasi may problema ha ha ha....

Anyway the reason why it's not advisable na i set to lower frequency specially pag ginawa mong large eh sa pelikula may mga frequency na lower than 20hz.. if in case pumasok to sa speakers mo and your speakers is capable only of lets say 60hz wala kang madidinig sa speakers mo pero maglalaro yung drivers mo... kapag mataas ang volume matindi ang pag labas masok nang drivers mo and may result to driver damage... another reason is nasasapawan nang low frequecy minsan ang details and pumapanget ang tunog..

my advise is either 80hz thx settings or the following

40 or 50 fronts (kapag maganda magbass ang speaker it wont be muddy lalo na kaya na gang 25hz)
60 center and surr
80sub
but not everything in 40hz
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Nov 26, 2012 at 07:17 PM


you'll see the difference for gun shots kapag kaya nya ng malalim kapag maganda ang fronts..

ang advise ko lang kay elms kahit ung surr and center gawin 60hz haha.. pero kung happy naman sya e - subjective yan...hihihi

naka 40hz kasi lahat...
ang hindi ko alam ung setting ng sub... if naka 80hz

I suggest if you want to play with crossover eh tingnan muna kung yung naka set na xover setting is kaya nang speakers.. meaning if your speaker can only go low at 60hz mapa fronts center or surrounds man yan, why set it to 40hz di ba?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Nov 26, 2012 at 07:19 PM
my advise is either 80hz thx settings or the following

40 or 50 fronts (kapag maganda magbass ang speaker it wont be muddy lalo na kaya na gang 25hz)
60 center and surr
80sub
but not everything in 40hz


Hindi din kasi applicable yan sa lahat kasi nga minsan hindi kaya nang speaker na ganyan ka baba...Like yung surround back ko(from mini compo)... lowest it can go is 120hz.. so there's no point of making it 80hz di ba?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Nov 26, 2012 at 07:20 PM
my advise is either 80hz thx settings or the following

40 or 50 fronts (kapag maganda magbass ang speaker it wont be muddy lalo na kaya na gang 25hz)
60 center and surr
80sub
but not everything in 40hz


Korek ka dyan sis, at 40hz for all channels eh parang naka .6 narin si elmira non hahaha.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Nov 26, 2012 at 07:22 PM
Korek ka dyan sis, at 40hz for all channels eh parang naka .6 narin si elmira non hahaha.

My question is... yung other speakers ba can go as low as 40hz? Kung hindi.. then set it kung anong kaya nang speakers..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Nov 26, 2012 at 07:26 PM
My question is... yung other speakers ba can go as low as 40hz? Kung hindi.. then set it kung anong kaya nang speakers..

Ano nga ba surrounds ni elmer?  Yung a7 nya am pretty sure pasok sa 40. Diba fxia6 gamit nya?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 26, 2012 at 07:28 PM
check natin specs... wait haha...
but for sure a7 can go low more than 40/50hz

center CSI a6 not sure if kaya na 40hz
Surr fxi a6 check natin kung kaya nya 40hz


ung recommendation ko base sa speaker ni ELMER haha
hindi sa component speakers hehe...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 26, 2012 at 07:29 PM
inaaway nyo akong dalawa e nagsusugest nga ako...haha... kasi ayaw kong asa 40hz un upon reading it..
the best manual configuration ung suggest ko haha
either
40-50 fronts
60 center
60 or 80 surr

80 svs

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Nov 26, 2012 at 07:33 PM
check natin specs... wait haha...
but for sure a7 can go low more than 40/50hz

center CSI a6 not sure if kaya na 40hz
Surr fxi a6 check natin kung kaya nya 40hz


ung recommendation ko base sa speaker ni ELMER haha
hindi sa component speakers hehe...


The A7 can go 40hz no prob about that...

The CSi cant.. 45Hz-27kHz
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 26, 2012 at 07:38 PM
kain muna kami...later ang discussion hehe..
basta ako ang sinasabi ko ...
nakaset ung speaker setting sa SMALL sa receiver but in reality it was not kasi it was set to the maz hz na kaya ng speaker..kaya pinapabago ko ung setting

ung 80hz setting na setup THX setting no problems dun
pwede din magmanual depende sa speakers na ginagamit hihihi

ang pinaguusapan lang ung setup ni elms

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Nov 26, 2012 at 07:44 PM
kain muna kami...later ang discussion hehe..
basta ako ang sinasabi ko ...
nakaset ung speaker setting sa SMALL sa receiver but in reality it was not kasi it was set to the maz hz na kaya ng speaker..kaya pinapabago ko ung setting

ung 80hz setting na setup THX setting no problems dun
pwede din magmanual depende sa speakers na ginagamit hihihi



Bro small settings pa rin yun kahit 40hz..kasi nga may mga bookshelves that can go as low as 30hz...

Setting the speakers to large meaning your speaker can handle all range including lows 20hz and below...

This is scary kasi pag may sumasabog na scene at high volume di mo alam less than 20hz na pala yung pinopruduce nang speakers mo which is not capable of handling that low.. magwawala ang drivers mo nyan..

I tested my PSB T6 feeding it with less than 30hz signal speakers set to large at mid to low volume... grabe yung laro nang driver ko considering na mahina pa yung volume.. pero wala ako nadidinig.. what more kung malakas ang volume ko? If i put it at high volume may tendency na masira ko yung driver... this is one of the reason why one shouldnt put a speaker to large for HT use unless you are sure na talagang kaya nang speaker ang 20hz below signal..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 26, 2012 at 07:51 PM
Bro small settings pa rin yun kahit 40hz..kasi nga may mga bookshelves that can go as low as 30hz...

Setting the speakers to large meaning your speaker can handle all range including lows 20hz and below...

This is scary kasi pag may sumasabog na scene at high volume di mo alam less than 20hz na pala yung pinopruduce nang speakers mo which is not capable of handling that low.. magwawala ang drivers mo nyan..

I tested my PSB T6 feeding it with less than 30hz signal speakers set to large at mid to low volume... grabe yung laro nang driver ko considering na mahina pa yung volume.. pero wala ako nadidinig.. what more kung malakas ang volume ko? If i put it at high volume may tendency na masira ko yung driver... this is one of the reason why one shouldnt put a speaker to large for HT use unless you are sure na talagang kaya nang speaker ang 20hz below signal..
hahaha... hindi tayo nagkakaintindihan....

same tayo ng logic magkaiba ng explanation...

tagalog

sinet ni elmer ung lahat ng speaker sa 40hz
LCR and SURR
sinet nya sa SMALL - SMALL at 40hz
ang ibig ko sabihin e ..nakasmall nga sya...pero in reality parang large kasi tatangap sya ng output sa maximum na kaya nyang tangapin.....
same logic

another scenario
meron akong bookshelf kaya nya e 80hz sinet ko sya sa LARGE ngayon FULLband sya kahit anu pwede nya tangapin
ngayon iset ko sya sa 40hz small ( small man ) tatangap pa din sya ng output sa max na kaya nya

kaya nasabi ko kay elmer na palitan ung 40hz to 60 dahil ung 60 kayang tangapin ng center and surr for sure...

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 26, 2012 at 07:54 PM
eto thx settings to kay brader jason...

kung saan ka masaya cooltoys

elms ung sayo huwag mo i 40hz lahat...small setting sya pero lumalabas sa center and surr nakalarge....

ang ibig ko dyan sabihin naka set sa 40hz pero in reality somehow large kasi it will receive output na wala sa range na kaya nya
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Nov 26, 2012 at 07:56 PM
hahaha... hindi tayo nagkakaintindihan....

same tayo ng logic magkaiba ng explanation...

tagalog

sinet ni elmer ung lahat ng speaker sa 40hz
LCR and SURR
sinet nya sa SMALL - SMALL at 40hz
ang ibig ko sabihin e ..nakasmall nga sya...pero in reality parang large kasi tatangap sya ng output sa maximum na kaya nyang tangapin.....
same logic

another scenario
meron akong bookshelf kaya nya e 80hz sinet ko sya sa LARGE ngayon FULLband sya kahit anu pwede nya tangapin
ngayon iset ko sya sa 40hz small ( small man ) tatangap pa din sya ng output sa max na kaya nya

kaya nasabi ko kay elmer na palitan ung 40hz to 60 dahil ung 60 kayang tangapin ng center and surr for sure...



I think elmer's logic of setting all his speaks eh kaya kasi nung A7,Center and even yung surround nya... All can go as low as 45hz kasi eh...

Bro be carefull in setting your bookshelves to Large.. specially kung movies... Kung music wala problema.. Kahit anong frequency naman kasi tatanggapin nya.. the question is kaya ba nung speakers yung signal at high level listening?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 26, 2012 at 07:58 PM
haha ang gugulo sa weekend ko na isipin yan.

Pag sa YPAO kasi automatic na large lahat nilalagay ng YPAO that the scenario then ilalagay ko sa small para sa SVS sub naman.  ^-^ ^-^
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Nov 26, 2012 at 08:01 PM
haha ang gugulo sa weekend ko na isipin yan.

Pag sa YPAO kasi automatic na large lahat nilalagay ng YPAO that the scenario then ilalagay ko sa small para sa SVS sub naman.  ^-^ ^-^

Bro nung nag run ako nang YPAO sa akin hindi nya sinet sa large lahat nang speakers ko after YPO eto kinalabasan nang setting ko

Fronts 40hz small PSB T6
Surround 60hz small B6
Center 80hz small C5
Surround 160hz small mini compo surround speaker
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 26, 2012 at 08:06 PM
I think elmer's logic of setting all his speaks eh kaya kasi nung A7,Center and even yung surround nya... All can go as low as 45hz kasi eh...

Bro be carefull in setting your bookshelves to Large.. specially kung movies... Kung music wala problema.. Kahit anong frequency naman kasi tatanggapin nya.. the question is kaya ba nung speakers yung signal at high level listening?


another scenario (and mean ko dito is ung Bookshelf max hz nya ay 80hz lang, below 80 hindi nya na kaya para clear) not my own speaker - scenario lang

meron akong bookshelf kaya nya e 80hz sinet ko sya sa LARGE ngayon FULLband sya kahit anu pwede nya tangapin
ngayon iset ko sya sa 40hz small ( small man ) tatangap pa din sya ng output sa max na kaya nya (kasi gang 80hz lang sya)
kaya nasabi ko kay elmer na palitan ung 40hz to 60 dahil ung 60 kayang tangapin ng center and surr for sure...









ung saken nakaset sa 50hz ang rti a3 before it was 40hz naalala ko lang ung setting na sinet ko kay elmer.. 40  > 60 > 60
parehas 50hz ung rti a3 and us audio ( low end 50hz lang kasi ung sub boomy) for movie
but i set it minsan sa 40hz when listening to music kapag natatamad akong magpalit na cable ng int amp  > for movie 50hz

 i never use LARGE setting for fronts sa movie eversince...


ang saken lang is i was correcting elmers setting of 40hz for all speakers...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 26, 2012 at 08:09 PM
Bro nung nag run ako nang YPAO sa akin hindi nya sinet sa large lahat nang speakers ko after YPO eto kinalabasan nang setting ko

Fronts 40hz small PSB T6
Surround 60hz small B6
Center 80hz small C5
Surround 160hz small mini compo surround speaker
nang nag setup kami nila norman
lahat ng speaker ni elmer sinet sa LARGE ng yamaha

2-3 times running ypao all large - hindi maramdaman ung svs sub kala namin patay

sabi ko kay elms i manual mo to 40 > 60 > 60

when i use aud din sa onkyo ko
ung rti a3 and csi a4 sinet sa large...
kaya sinet sa large - i assume because ung us audio can only go to 50hz
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 26, 2012 at 08:11 PM
ung saken nakaset sa 50hz ang rti a3 before it was 40hz naalala ko lang ung setting na sinet ko kay elmer.. 40  > 60 > 60
parehas 50hz ung rti a3 and us audio ( low end 50hz lang kasi ung sub boomy) for movie
but i set it minsan sa 40hz when listening to music kapag natatamad akong magpalit na cable ng int amp  > for movie 50hz

 i never use LARGE setting for fronts sa movie eversince...


ang saken lang is i was correcting elmers setting of 40hz for all speakers...

hahaha ang gugulo. Sige sige ill take your advice... :)

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 26, 2012 at 08:48 PM
hahaha ang gugulo. Sige sige ill take your advice... :)

basahin mo eto ung nabasa ko before


http://www.audioholics.com/tweaks/get-good-bass/setting-the-subwoofer-lfe-crossover-for-best-performance


BEST PERFORMANCE daw...but again..it depends on your speakers...


set at least 10Hz above the lowest frequency your main speakers can reproduce cleanly.
so 40 will be the best setting for your fronts as it can go 20hz
40hz to 50hz will be fine for fronts
but for your surr and center 60 will do as walang 65hz as advise din saken before..
center 65 and surr 65-80hz
kaya wala masyadong bass ung SVS as i check the specs RTI A7 can go as deep as 20hz
when change to 40hz laking improvement..
pwede mo itaas...kung hindi masyadong clean ung tunog(muddy)
when you switch 40 50 60 70 or 80 on your fronts.. magtest ka ng baril and see how the gun shot is
for sure at 40hz settings full ang tunog nyan
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Nov 26, 2012 at 09:28 PM
hahaha ang gugulo. Sige sige ill take your advice... :)



Actually there's no right and wrong... Depende na lang talaga sa pandinig mo... Even if you try what's suggested here tapos di mo trip sa pandinig mo you can always play with it...

In my experience di ako natuwa sa settings ni YPAO that's why i manually calibrated it using spl meter.. Set all speakers to 80hz except for the Surround Back 120hz and center which i set to 60hz.. I even set the Yamaha to Through para walang equalization na nanggagaling from yamaha. And this to me sounds good to me... Again experiment experiment experiment..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Nov 26, 2012 at 10:02 PM
reading caused a head ache... thank goodness there is YPAO for old lazy people like me.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 26, 2012 at 10:12 PM
Basa basa lang weekend will be long again for the testing lalo na okay na yung HTPC ko.  ^-^ ^-^
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Randy1981 on Nov 26, 2012 at 10:35 PM
Please help.i have yamaha receiver rx-v 373 but i cant decide kung ano speaker na mas ok.im planning for polk tsi300/cs10 or wharfedale 10.1 or 10.4/10cs.thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Nov 26, 2012 at 11:29 PM
Please help.i have yamaha receiver rx-v 373 but i cant decide kung ano speaker na mas ok.im planning for polk tsi300/cs10 or wharfedale 10.1 or 10.4/10cs.thanks

sir pa review naman nung avr pag na setup mo na. plano ko rin kasi nyan o kaya yung 473 to be paired with diamond 10s.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Nov 27, 2012 at 11:19 AM
@Randy1981, hard to go wrong with the Polk.
But if TSI is the option, for the same budget I would recommend you look at Anthony Audio Genesis series then the savings can go to a PJ or Audio speakers.

Most likely xrampage will react :-) still you may test the Yamaha + Genesis set-up at our store to experience the Genesis. We are not selling the speakers, but supporting Anthony Audio.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jetstar on Nov 30, 2012 at 04:22 AM
Just curious, if you set your fronts to 80hz for the sub to take the lower frequency, what will happen when you set your receiver to Pure Direct? Pure Direct disables the sub but will your fronts go on full frequency and by-pass the settings?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Nov 30, 2012 at 10:41 AM
Yes, that's right.
 
Pure Direct disables eveything but the volume control.  Bass management is disabled, so the fronts will get the full frequency and the 80Hz bass management setting is bypassed.  All sound processing is disabled.  Video out is disabled.  Even the receiver's front panel display is disabled.
 
The purpose is to provide the shortest possible path for the sound source, to minimize any possible degradation and coloration as the signal passes the circuits.
 
I almost always use Pure Direct for 2.0 music.  There are music tracks that sound slightly better on Pure Direct; some tracks pareho lang ang tunog.
 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Nov 30, 2012 at 07:35 PM
To fellow Yamaha users a few questions:
1) Do you use the YPAO calibration feature?
2) Which of the Settings do you use? Natural - Front - Flat?
3) What is your opinion of the calibration result? Does it satisfy your desired SQ?

1. Yes.
2. Flat.
3. (a) Result is good.   (b) Yes.   
 
 
Hope to get replies for additional knowledge.

"Flat" applies the result of the auto parametric equalization (PEQ) as is.  The objective is to achieve the best accuracy.
 
"Natural" also applies the PEQ result, but reduces upper midrange and high frequencies slightly.  The objective is to reduce harshness, if that is the preference of the user.
 
"Front" does not apply the PEQ result; it just leaves the fronts without equalization, then applies PEQ on the other speakers.  This is for systems with mismatched speakers.  The objective is to match the fronts with the rest of the speakers.
 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jetstar on Nov 30, 2012 at 10:40 PM
Yes, that's right.
 
Pure Direct disables eveything but the volume control.  Bass management is disabled, so the fronts will get the full frequency and the 80Hz bass management setting is bypassed.  All sound processing is disabled.  Video out is disabled.  Even the receiver's front panel display is disabled.
 
The purpose is to provide the shortest possible path for the sound source, to minimize any possible degradation and coloration as the signal passes the circuits.
 
I almost always use Pure Direct for 2.0 music.  There are music tracks that sound slightly better on Pure Direct; some tracks pareho lang ang tunog.
 

Thanks! Only the blue Pure direct monitor LED is enabled when I switch to Pure Direct. I asked because I'm not sure if I'm getting the full frequency from my Wharfe 9.1.  It's hard to know if it does since having the sub disabled, the low freq seems missing but as you listen more, you will notice that Pure Direct gives more natural musical output. It varies from the reference material that your are listening to.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Dec 01, 2012 at 12:59 AM
 
 
I don't like subwoofers when listening to 2.0 music.
 
If it's accuracy you're after, then a 2.0 recording should played back on a 2.0 setup.  Remember that the recording you're listening to was mixed in a studio that used near-field monitor speakers.  I don't see how playing that back on a multichannel setup + subwoofer will give you an acccurate reproduction of the source as recorded.
 
Puwera na lang siguro kung ang music mo ay rap, hip-hop, trance, etc.
 
 
=========================================
 
 
Abbey Road Studios, Westminster, London, England:
 
(http://www.image-line.com/innovaeditor/assets/studio2.jpg)
 
Speakers: B&W 805S near-field monitors ($2,500 a pair).   
 
 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jetstar on Dec 01, 2012 at 03:03 AM

 
I don't like subwoofers when listening to 2.0 music.
 
If it's accuracy you're after, then a 2.0 recording should played back on a 2.0 setup.  Remember that the recording you're listening to was mixed in a studio that used near-field monitor speakers.  I don't see how playing that back on a multichannel setup + subwoofer will give you an acccurate reproduction of the source as recorded.
 
Puwera na lang siguro kung ang music mo ay rap, hip-hop, trance, etc.
 
 
=========================================
 
 
Abbey Road Studios, Westminster, London, England:
 
(http://www.image-line.com/innovaeditor/assets/studio2.jpg)
 
Speakers: B&W 805S near-field monitors ($2,500 a pair).   
 
 

Yes. Audiophile Voices CDs sound more natural on a 2.0 setup. I bought a Pink Floyd The Dark Side of The Moon SACD 5.1 Surround. Can't wait to get home to try it. 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Dec 01, 2012 at 04:33 AM
If it's accuracy you're after, then a 2.0 recording should played back on a 2.0 setup.  Remember that the recording you're listening to was mixed in a studio that used near-field monitor speakers.  I don't see how playing that back on a multichannel setup + subwoofer will give you an acccurate reproduction of the source as recorded.

Many do master in the medium or the far field, and there are others who do master with subwoofers.
(http://www.focal-fr.com/news/images-actu/home/M1207---Le-Lab-small.jpg)
(http://www.virtalahde.com/1011_etu1.jpg)

The mixing part is often done in the near field, but mastering usually happens from a more typical listening distance.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Dec 01, 2012 at 10:01 AM
Wow, that's good info!
 
Do you know what audio monitors they use for mastering movie soundtracks?  Very big speakers, or not so big speakers?  Maybe 5 identical speakers for fronts, surround and center?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Dec 01, 2012 at 10:14 AM
Wow, that's good info!
 
Do you know what audio monitors they use for mastering movie soundtracks?  Very big speakers, or not so big speakers?  Maybe 5 identical speakers for fronts, surround and center?

Identical monitors + sub in most cases. Most use reasonable-sized monitors (bookshelf-sized).
(http://www.boffinisland.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Bravo_078.jpg)
(http://spl.info/fileadmin/user_upload/referenzen/adamayan_studio1_1000.jpg)
(http://miloco.co.uk/milocoblog/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/24-96-mastering-studio.jpg)

Big speakers all around are often used for multichannel music mastering.
(http://www.psiaudio.com/sites/default/files/images/IMG_5750RSI.JPG)
(http://www.thebaj.com/images/featues_PMC_Tim%20Young.jpg)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Dec 01, 2012 at 10:22 AM
Thanks for the great info sir!
 
Very nice pics.  Those are scary looking monitors ...  :o
 
 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Dec 01, 2012 at 10:29 AM
Thanks for the great info sir!
 
Very nice pics.  Those are scary looking monitors ...  :o
 

You're welcome, Atty.

SACD and DVD-A were originally developed without bass management; all channels are designed to run full-range (hence the big speakers).

That didn't stop CE makers from adding bass management functions later on, however.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 04, 2012 at 03:32 PM
Quote
Most likely xrampage will react :-) still you may test the Yamaha + Genesis set-up at our store to experience the Genesis. We are not selling the speakers, but supporting Anthony Audio.

Bat naman ako mag rereact eh narinig ko na ang genesis mo na matigas. For me matigas talaga ang buga di kagaya ng polk ko na out of the box di siya matigas. Sabi nga nila nas apandinig yan di lahat tayo same experience. Don't get me wrong on my experience with other brands pero di ko talaga nagustuhan and take note di lang ako ang naexperience na matigas talaga yung output. Di ko na din need i audition ang genesis with my yammy since im happy with my POLK if ever palit ako speaker syempre mas maganda sa POLK ang kuinin ko. >:D >:D

I will react kasi nga nilagay mo ako sa post mo na dapat hindi naman.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Dec 04, 2012 at 06:15 PM
Bat naman ako mag rereact eh narinig ko na ang genesis mo na matigas. For me matigas talaga ang buga di kagaya ng polk ko na out of the box di siya matigas. Sabi nga nila nas apandinig yan di lahat tayo same experience. Don't get me wrong on my experience with other brands pero di ko talaga nagustuhan and take note di lang ako ang naexperience na matigas talaga yung output. Di ko na din need i audition ang genesis with my yammy since im happy with my POLK if ever palit ako speaker syempre mas maganda sa POLK ang kuinin ko. >:D >:D

I will react kasi nga nilagay mo ako sa post mo na dapat hindi naman.  ;) ;)

Huminahon ka brader... ang puso mo ang puso he he he
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 04, 2012 at 06:32 PM
Huminahon ka brader... ang puso mo ang puso he he he

Nanahimik nga ako ewan ko bat nadamay ako sa post na un. Yamaha din naman ako and im happy with my Yamaha. May nangungulam nga sa akin try ko daw Denon sa POLK ko.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Dec 04, 2012 at 11:58 PM
Nanahimik nga ako ewan ko bat nadamay ako sa post na un. Yamaha din naman ako and im happy with my Yamaha. May nangungulam nga sa akin try ko daw Denon sa POLK ko.  >:D >:D

eto naman, na quote ka lang brader kasi may post ka siguro before about the genesis and may difference in opinion somewhere.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Dec 05, 2012 at 12:30 AM
eto naman, na quote ka lang brader kasi may post ka siguro before about the genesis and may difference in opinion somewhere.

Kasalanan ni Timi yan.. ayaw pa kasi bumili ng PJ eh
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 05, 2012 at 08:23 AM
eto naman, na quote ka lang brader kasi may post ka siguro before about the genesis and may difference in opinion somewhere.

Ou alam ko may post ako about genesis ang pagkakalam ko sa TPC di ko na maremember kung meron din dito sa PDVD kasi nung HiFi show pa un na experience. Nananahimik ako i just post my honest experience on some site. Mahirap naman ipilit natin sa pandinig natin ang di maganda baka in the end magkaron pa tayo na sakit or anything out of it. Sabi nga may kanya kanya tayo preference. Iba kasi ung pag kaka quote naka italic pa parang kulang na lang invisible na letters para di ko makita. Its not just a regular quote brader. May masama na ba sa post na actual experience?  :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Dec 05, 2012 at 04:03 PM
Quote
"Flat" applies the result of the auto parametric equalization (PEQ) as is.  The objective is to achieve the best accuracy.
 
"Natural" also applies the PEQ result, but reduces upper midrange and high frequencies slightly.  The objective is to reduce harshness, if that is the preference of the user.
 
"Front" does not apply the PEQ result; it just leaves the fronts without equalization, then applies PEQ on the other speakers.  This is for systems with mismatched speakers.  The objective is to match the fronts with the rest of the speakers.

@barrister, thank you!

More questions about YPAO for the more experienced Yamaha owners.

1) Based on the above quote does it mean that if the speakers are Harsh / matigas if you set the YPAO Equalization to Natural, the sound will become less harsh / malambing?

2) Aside from Yamaha, are there other brands of AVRS that offer the same three(3) EQ options after calibration?


 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Dec 05, 2012 at 06:30 PM
1) Based on the above quote does it mean that if the speakers are Harsh / matigas if you set the YPAO Equalization to Natural, the sound will become less harsh / malambing?

2) Aside from Yamaha, are there other brands of AVRS that offer the same three(3) EQ options after calibration?

1) Yes, harshness of upper midrange and high frequencies is slightly reduced.  But remember that the reduction is slight, which means that you will benefit if your room and system are already good, and will only need slight equalization to make your system sound better.
 
Therefore, you should not buy receivers and speakers without planning for correct matching, then expect equalization to solve every mismatch.  Auto Parametric Equalization (PEQ) has its limitations, so you should try to work within those limitations.
 
Accoridng to sir Timithekid, auto PEQ is very useful, but if speakers are mismatched with receivers to start with, you will still notice those mismatches during peak volumes despite prior auto PEQ. 

That is why the best approach is to first make sure that your room acoustics are good enough, then do your best to match receiver with speaker.  With that aside, use auto PEQ, and your system will sound good.
 
2) As far is I know, only Yamaha's YPAO has the Flat, Natural and Front selections after auto calibration.
 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Dec 05, 2012 at 10:59 PM

2) As far is I know, only Yamaha's YPAO has the Flat, Natural and Front selections after auto calibration.
 

Newer Audyssey MultEQ implementations usually offer Audyssey Reference (equivalent of YPAO's Natural) and Audyssey Flat (equivalent of YPAO's Flat).
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: rthirtyfourgtr on Dec 06, 2012 at 05:03 AM
2) As far is I know, only Yamaha's YPAO has the Flat, Natural and Front selections after auto calibration.

Newer Audyssey MultEQ implementations usually offer Audyssey Reference (equivalent of YPAO's Natural) and Audyssey Flat (equivalent of YPAO's Flat).

^ There's also the Front Bypass (equivalent to the YPAO Front option), but not available on all MultEQ equipped receivers (Audyssey doesn't recommend it). I think this option is available on Denon receivers

MultEQ Target Curves
https://audyssey.zendesk.com/entries/94162-multeq-target-curves (https://audyssey.zendesk.com/entries/94162-multeq-target-curves)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Dec 06, 2012 at 06:11 AM
^ There's also the Front Bypass (equivalent to the YPAO Front option), but not available on all MultEQ equipped receivers (Audyssey doesn't recommend it). I think this option is available on Denon receivers

MultEQ Target Curves
https://audyssey.zendesk.com/entries/94162-multeq-target-curves (https://audyssey.zendesk.com/entries/94162-multeq-target-curves)

Afaik, Front Bypass still uses Audyssey's curve but omits equalization for the front L/R channels. YPAO Front measures the response of the front L/R speakers, and equalizes the rest to match this.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: rthirtyfourgtr on Dec 06, 2012 at 07:53 AM
^ as per Chris Kyriakakis on the article i posted above...

Quote
Some manufacturers have decided to implement a Bypass L/R (or Front) setting.  This uses the MultEQ filters that were calculated for the entire listening area, but it does not apply any filtering to the front left and right loudspeakers. The average measured response from the front left and right loudspeakers is used as the target curve for the remaining loudspeakers in the system. The subwoofer in this case is equalized to flat as is the case for all the settings described above.  This is not a setting recommended by Audyssey.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: chicosci on Dec 26, 2012 at 04:33 PM
Hello meron po nakarinig na ng Yamaha RX-V473 PSB Image B6 combo? How was it? Im thinking of getting one kasi. Any cons po with regards to the features of the RX-V473? I think kasi sulit sya for the price kasi other brands with the same features are more expensive.

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Dec 26, 2012 at 04:38 PM
Hello meron po nakarinig na ng Yamaha RX-V473 PSB Image B6 combo? How was it? Im thinking of getting one kasi. Any cons po with regards to the features of the RX-V473? I think kasi sulit sya for the price kasi other brands with the same features are more expensive.

Thanks :)

Pm nyo po si courage, he has a b6 and uses a yamaha aventage.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 26, 2012 at 05:53 PM
Pm nyo po si courage, he has a b6 and uses a yamaha aventage.
he uses it as surround hihihi
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Dec 26, 2012 at 06:26 PM
he uses it as surround hihihi

Im sure napakinggan narin ni brader yan with his yamaha hehe, si gerard pinagtripn din nya yung alpha b1 nya with the nad diba hehehe.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Dec 26, 2012 at 07:11 PM
Im sure napakinggan narin ni brader yan with his yamaha hehe, si gerard pinagtripn din nya yung alpha b1 nya with the nad diba hehehe.

Yup, tested the B6 with Yamaha as well for both movies and music..

The B6 goes well with the Yamaha for both application.. Actually as soon as matapos ang rack i'll be moving the T6 sa Sala and use the B6 as fronts for my HT para totally mapaghiwalay ko na ang Audio and HT.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bartender on Dec 26, 2012 at 08:51 PM
Yup, tested the B6 with Yamaha as well for both movies and music..

The B6 goes well with the Yamaha for both application.. Actually as soon as matapos ang rack i'll be moving the T6 sa Sala and use the B6 as fronts for my HT para totally mapaghiwalay ko na ang Audio and HT.


+1 on the B6.

Iba na talga ang maraming moolah. Separates! 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Dec 26, 2012 at 09:42 PM

+1 on the B6.

Iba na talga ang maraming moolah. Separates! 

Hindi naman sir.. talagang pinagipunan ng matagal lang para ma achieve... It didnt happen overnight he he he.. im a member here since 2002 ang ngayon ko lang unti unting na aachieve ang pangarap he he he... Si Louie lang ang may kakayanang mag upgrade to highend overnight he he he
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 26, 2012 at 09:53 PM
Hindi naman sir.. talagang pinagipunan ng matagal lang para ma achieve... It didnt happen overnight he he he.. im a member here since 2002 ang ngayon ko lang unti unting na aachieve ang pangarap he he he... Si Louie lang ang may kakayanang mag upgrade to highend overnight he he he
parang si brader jason din ngayon
parehas na silang mga bigtime
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: chicosci on Dec 26, 2012 at 09:54 PM
ahhhhh :) so ok naman pala yung combo thanks mga sir :)

btw ok naman po ba yung RX-V473? In terms of SQ? Features? or should I buy another model? and sa specs po kaya na nya idrive yung B6 well?

thanks :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Dec 26, 2012 at 09:55 PM
parang si brader jason din ngayon
parehas na silang mga bigtime

Hoy 12 years ako nag ipon... 12 years akong nagutom... 12 years akong skyflakes at kape... wahahahahaha
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Dec 26, 2012 at 10:00 PM
ahhhhh :) so ok naman pala yung combo thanks mga sir :)

btw ok naman po ba yung RX-V473? In terms of SQ? Features? or should I buy another model? and sa specs po kaya na nya idrive yung B6 well?

thanks :)

Yup kayang kaya nya i drive ang B6 with no problem.. I checked the features of the 473 and mas lamang pa sya sa Aventage ko in terms of features... The B6 is an easy to drive speakers so wala kang magiging problem dyan sir... Try to demo the Yamaha + B6 combo at watt hi fi.. May naka setup sila dun na demo units..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: chicosci on Dec 26, 2012 at 10:11 PM
Yup kayang kaya nya i drive ang B6 with no problem.. I checked the features of the 473 and mas lamang pa sya sa Aventage ko in terms of features... The B6 is an easy to drive speakers so wala kang magiging problem dyan sir... Try to demo the Yamaha + B6 combo at watt hi fi.. May naka setup sila dun na demo units..

Ahhhhh oki. ayus pala hehe. Thanks sir. Will audition it nalang :) ... hirap magpili ng receiver. so far yamaha yung pasok sa budget na ok eh ang negative lang for me sa 473 is yung GUI nya eh oldschool looking kasi hehe.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 26, 2012 at 10:16 PM
Ahhhhh oki. ayus pala hehe. Thanks sir. Will audition it nalang :) ... hirap magpili ng receiver. so far yamaha yung pasok sa budget na ok eh ang negative lang for me sa 473 is yung GUI nya eh oldschool looking kasi hehe.
get used midrange yamaha.....hihihi
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Dec 26, 2012 at 10:25 PM
get used midrange yamaha.....hihihi

WITCH!!!!!!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 26, 2012 at 10:29 PM
WITCH!!!!!!
hihihi....
kesa entry level na bnew
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Dec 26, 2012 at 10:30 PM
hihihi....
kesa entry level na bnew

Pero brader Entry level yung yamaha na nag drive nung T6 ko nung nag punta tayo sa watt hi fi he he he...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 26, 2012 at 10:52 PM
Pero brader Entry level yung yamaha na nag drive nung T6 ko nung nag punta tayo sa watt hi fi he he he...

7 series un....hindi mga 3 and 4
hehe....
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 27, 2012 at 12:52 AM
Yup kayang kaya nya i drive ang B6 with no problem.. I checked the features of the 473 and mas lamang pa sya sa Aventage ko in terms of features... The B6 is an easy to drive speakers so wala kang magiging problem dyan sir... Try to demo the Yamaha + B6 combo at watt hi fi.. May naka setup sila dun na demo units..

Iba na talaga level may seperate na audio. Malamang sa sunod naka T6 na ulet ung FS ng HT nag papalipas lang yan ng new year. hehehe
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Dec 27, 2012 at 03:39 AM
Iba na talaga level may seperate na audio. Malamang sa sunod naka T6 na ulet ung FS ng HT nag papalipas lang yan ng new year. hehehe

Hoy DUAL PB12NSD Elmer... tumigil ka... baka mauna ka pang magka dual SVS bago ako makabili ng isa pang T6  he he he
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: chicosci on Dec 27, 2012 at 10:59 PM
Bought the yamaha na. Auditioned it with the B6 speakers and was very satisfied. Now i need to break-in my speakers na hehe.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Dec 27, 2012 at 11:39 PM
Bought the yamaha na. Auditioned it with the B6 speakers and was very satisfied. Now i need to break-in my speakers na hehe.

Congratulation sir... Its time to put your own gallery.....
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: renren on Jan 14, 2013 at 04:18 PM
hi guys , im a newbee in setting up a HT...would a yamaha v373 with satellites speakers enough to make a begineers HT?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Jan 14, 2013 at 06:47 PM
Oo naman sir.
 
Kaya lang, mahina talaga ang power ng 300 series.  Ayos lang yon if you just want to try out a receiver.  Pero kung OK lang sa yo ang low power, also try a Pioneer, baka mas sulit ang presyo.   
 
Personally, mas gusto ko ang Yamaha, pero maganda rin ang Pio ngayon.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Jan 14, 2013 at 07:12 PM
what can you guys suggest na yamaha models that is good enough for beginners? entry to mid level (~25k budget).
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Jan 14, 2013 at 11:42 PM
with a 25K budget go for a 2nd hand yamaha with preouts.  like maybe a 771, I believe thats a '11 model.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Jan 27, 2013 at 06:32 PM
Mga sir i saw an ht package na binebenta:

Yamaha rxv 373/473
Yamaha NS 8390 FS
Yamaha NS P150 center and surrounds
No sub

Ok na ba to na setup for starters? Nasa 35k ata.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: rexFi on Feb 27, 2013 at 03:11 PM
Bought the yamaha na. Auditioned it with the B6 speakers and was very satisfied. Now i need to break-in my speakers na hehe.

Hi sir, after around 2 months? Musta na performance ng Yamaha 473+PSB B6?

...

And san ba or ano ba Updates sa prices ng RXV-*73 series ng Yamaha?

Nabobopols na atah ako sa paggamit ng Forum, di ko makita sa Search. :D

TIA.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: neoneo on Mar 14, 2013 at 12:26 PM
Hello. I cannot find anyone selling aventage models. I'm province based and i called sns & lis but they are not responding. Where can i buy locally? Thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Mar 14, 2013 at 02:38 PM
Hello. I cannot find anyone selling aventage models. I'm province based and i called sns & lis but they are not responding. Where can i buy locally? Thanks.

Try 5th Avenue
http://5thavenue.com.ph/ (http://5thavenue.com.ph/)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: neoneo on Mar 14, 2013 at 05:25 PM
Thanks sir Louie.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: titor on Mar 19, 2013 at 01:40 PM
gold box from amazon $299 for RX-V573 i think this is only up to today.

http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-RX-V573-7-1-Channel-Network-Receiver/dp/B007JF861O/ref=xs_gb_A3IC63IAMPO2LM?_encoding=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=441937901&pf_rd_s=right-1&pf_rd_t=701&pf_rd_i=20&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1B3YWY5EADQRPJJ995RS
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dts_hdma on Mar 25, 2013 at 07:19 PM
Bought my Yamaha RX-A820 sa US for $600 during the Black Friday. Mas mura pa din talaga dun.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: stereofiles audio on Mar 25, 2013 at 11:14 PM
Hi Sir! Maybe I can help you...what specific model?

You may send an sms 0922-3966870
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: edwn1220 on Mar 28, 2013 at 07:14 PM
Hello. I cannot find anyone selling aventage models. I'm province based and i called sns & lis but they are not responding. Where can i buy locally? Thanks.

Aventage series is now available by order in SnS:

 http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,70382.11760.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,70382.11760.html)

 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Mar 29, 2013 at 05:39 PM
The prices posted by SnS are very very good already...
83K for the Top of the Line A3020 :o
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Mar 29, 2013 at 06:12 PM
The prices posted by SnS are very very good already...
83K for the Top of the Line A3020 :o
holy . 83000 for a top model is a good deal.
Everyone seems to be pricing downwards. Pioneer started the trend and now i see Yamaha doing the same. this is very good for the consumer.  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 29, 2013 at 10:47 PM
The prices posted by SnS are very very good already...
83K for the Top of the Line A3020 :o
bro louie ano katapat nito sa denon and onkyo?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Chain on Mar 29, 2013 at 10:48 PM
Happy Easter PDVD peeps!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Mar 29, 2013 at 11:21 PM
bro louie ano katapat nito sa denon and onkyo?

I think sa Denon yung 4311. Sa Onkyo yung 5010... Pareho parehong Top of the Line ng bawat brands... :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 30, 2013 at 01:01 AM
I think sa Denon yung 4311. Sa Onkyo yung 5010... Pareho parehong Top of the Line ng bawat brands... :)
ahh nice pala talaga, superior ba ang MPAO nito vs. lower end receivers ng yamaha?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Mar 30, 2013 at 06:42 PM
The prices posted by SnS are very very good already...
83K for the Top of the Line A3020 :o

Really brader? Tempting to upgrade to 3020... Hmmmmmmmmm.. esep eseppppppp
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Mar 30, 2013 at 08:53 PM
ahh nice pala talaga, superior ba ang MPAO nito vs. lower end receivers ng yamaha?
YPAO on the 3020 only corrects up to 30hz and above but its definitively better than the lower end models room correction which uses a much older version of YPAO.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dts_hdma on Mar 31, 2013 at 10:33 AM
Really brader? Tempting to upgrade to 3020... Hmmmmmmmmm.. esep eseppppppp

Tempting indeed. Yamaha RX-A3020 from US is 1499usd plus the 75usd freight charges(estimate only) is very near the prices locally. Warranty is the added bonus.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ninjababez® on Apr 01, 2013 at 07:33 AM
YPAO on the 3020 only corrects up to 30hz and above but its definitively better than the lower end models room correction which uses a much older version of YPAO.
thanks bro, baka maganda sabayan ng SVS AS-EQ1 hehehe
btw 9x150 watts is no slouch.  sino gusto maging guinea pig?  ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: yakisoba on Apr 11, 2013 at 09:58 PM
Guys do you have an feedback on Yamaha rxv773? Is this a good mid scale receiver? ty
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: iconlord on Apr 12, 2013 at 04:00 AM
Guys do you have an feedback on Yamaha rxv773? Is this a good mid scale receiver? ty

up ko lang po yun question ni sir yakisoba...

which is better Yamaha RX V373 or Pioneer VSX-522K?

i have a wharfedale 10cm center and planning to buy wharfe 10.6 fronts.

please help me decide.. thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 12, 2013 at 07:17 PM
up ko lang po yun question ni sir yakisoba...

which is better Yamaha RX V373 or Pioneer VSX-522K?

i have a wharfedale 10cm center and planning to buy wharfe 10.6 fronts.

please help me decide.. thanks
parehas lang yang receiver na yan pre....

ung 773 ayun ang ok hehe...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: knefut on Apr 18, 2013 at 10:21 AM
quick question: where's the Yamaha Service Center?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Apr 18, 2013 at 11:26 AM
quick question: where's the Yamaha Service Center?

Quick Answer: Contact Audio World (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,31712.0.html)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 18, 2013 at 11:32 AM
Quick Answer: Contact Audio World (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,31712.0.html)


Mahilig sa quiky.. hihihi pati pag bili ng gears mo quicky din..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: knefut on Apr 22, 2013 at 10:39 AM
^ thanks bosing
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: yakisoba on May 27, 2013 at 11:49 PM
Any yammy rx v673 owners here? ano feedback?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: remington on May 28, 2013 at 08:40 AM
quick question: where's the Yamaha Service Center?
call (02)3743505 yamaha service
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Tavus on May 28, 2013 at 05:38 PM
check this out new Yamaha pre pro:
CXA 5000
MXA 5000
150W x 11ch Output

http://radioparts.com.au/Files/fb/Aventage_MXA5000_CXA5000.pdf (http://radioparts.com.au/Files/fb/Aventage_MXA5000_CXA5000.pdf)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Jun 07, 2013 at 12:21 PM
check this out new Yamaha pre pro:
CXA 5000
MXA 5000
150W x 11ch Output

http://radioparts.com.au/Files/fb/Aventage_MXA5000_CXA5000.pdf (http://radioparts.com.au/Files/fb/Aventage_MXA5000_CXA5000.pdf)

Winner to... malamang winner din ang price...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: xtrm_2001 on Jun 09, 2013 at 12:59 PM
patulung naman mga gurus..

how to connect zone 2 out jacks ng rx-v661 for seperate audio listening?
tama ba: zone 2 out L & R > external amplifier IN > L & R speaker?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: uybrian on Jun 30, 2013 at 02:15 AM
Rxv673 user here. Ok naman sya, happy and contend. Bright sound sya.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dwinski on Jul 05, 2013 at 02:17 PM
check this out new Yamaha pre pro:
CXA 5000
MXA 5000
150W x 11ch Output

http://radioparts.com.au/Files/fb/Aventage_MXA5000_CXA5000.pdf (http://radioparts.com.au/Files/fb/Aventage_MXA5000_CXA5000.pdf)

Can I ask for a quick comparison

Yamaha CX-A5000 pre amp vs. Marantz AV 8801 pre/pro.

or should I make a separate topic for this?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: joaquin888 on Jul 12, 2013 at 07:42 PM
Just got my RX-V673 can't seem to make airplay work. Should I be connecting to a router or home network thru cable?

Bought the AVR to play in my iPad or Galaxy Note. :) 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jul 12, 2013 at 07:49 PM
Just got my RX-V673 can't seem to make airplay work. Should I be connecting to a router or home network thru cable?

Bought the AVR to play in my iPad or Galaxy Note. :) 

Need mo iconnect yan sa router via lan unless na may wifi yan reciever mo na coconect sa router.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: toto@ on Jul 20, 2013 at 10:56 PM
me brand new pa bang yamaha rx v373 ngayon? magkano  na kaya?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: titor on Jul 23, 2013 at 08:19 AM
me brand new pa bang yamaha rx v373 ngayon? magkano  na kaya?


Meron pa naman yan sir. There's always room for entry level stuff. If you can't find it sa AV shops you can check big appliance stores. Like Ansons/Abensons. I saw one before mga 11k ata yun sa Cash n Carry Makati.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: toto@ on Jul 23, 2013 at 07:13 PM
Quote
Meron pa naman yan sir. There's always room for entry level stuff. If you can't find it sa AV shops you can check big appliance stores. Like Ansons/Abensons. I saw one before mga 11k ata yun sa Cash n Carry Makati.

thanks for the info sir :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: stereofiles audio on Aug 01, 2013 at 10:44 PM
me brand new pa bang yamaha rx v373 ngayon? magkano  na kaya?

Sir available pa RX-V373....18,995 pa din srp
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: yscko0917 on Aug 11, 2013 at 12:22 AM
pa suggest nmn po receiver plus 2 floorstanding speakers my budget is 30k saka nalang cguro yung center, surround at sub hehe tight budget, mag start palang akong bumuo ng 5.1 set up...naka edifier s530d 2.1 set up lang ako ngayon...(50/50 movies and music)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Wysiwyg on Sep 20, 2013 at 11:31 AM
Guys do you have an feedback on Yamaha rxv773? Is this a good mid scale receiver? ty

My personal experience on Yamaha RXV773 using B&W speakers is very musical rather than HT applications. preouts and flac file capable in usb port is a plus.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: YonipDVD on Sep 20, 2013 at 08:19 PM
Bakit yung 573 na nabili ko walang serial no.? Sa inyo ba meron?

TY
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Wysiwyg on Sep 20, 2013 at 08:50 PM
The sticker serial no. was removed when I bought my rxv773, just like my previous rxv 373 wala din don't know why, but its all made in malaysia.
Title: im Selling Yamaha Rx 497 Stereo Amp
Post by: puds on Oct 10, 2013 at 12:57 AM
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Search nyo S youtube at Google Review nito
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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mbtorn on Oct 10, 2013 at 01:11 AM
21,000k  Brand New Search nyo s  Sulit

754 92 80

6 MONTHS P LANG  220 Volts p 180 watts Lang Pero lakas tumunog
Kahit Silipin Nyo Loob walang alikabok . . .  Ung Av, Even ung Wire Malines P s Pwet ni Ann Curtis


Search nyo S youtube at Google Review nito
Pang Audio Phile 75 watts X 4 means 150 Watts X 2
1/4 p Lang n Volume Malakas n

Pang Aralan Nyo Pag Mas Mataas Ung Signal To Noise Ratio Mas Puro Tunog S Net

High Quality 108db Signal to noise ratio Pang High End Av Reciever Lang Ang May Ganto k Taas n Signal to noise ratio,

Onkyo Mid Range Tx Nr  616 Has 106 Signal to Noise Ratio

NO.7 of 10 Best Yamaha Recievers 
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xpmicc_yamaha-home-theater-receivers-top-10-best-list_tech

Please post this in the marketplace. This is a discussion thread.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: af2011 on Oct 21, 2013 at 02:06 PM
Hi All,

I'm having problems with my Yamaha RXV571: the amp does not power on, it just stays in standby/passthrough mode. Passthrough works fine and i have also unplugged all the speakers. I'm not sure exactly how it happened but my wife said the electricity went on/off. When the electricity stabilized the unit won't power on.

Is there anything I can try at my end? Or just have it serviced?

TIA
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: red_one on Nov 18, 2013 at 11:07 AM
guys, ano difference ng Aventage series sa RX-V series?

is it worth it to get RX-A820 (100W/ch) vs RX-V773 (95W/ch)? the power difference is negligible eh.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Allan_2180 on Nov 18, 2013 at 02:41 PM
guys, ano difference ng Adventage series sa RX-V series?

is it worth it to get RX-A820 (100W/ch) vs RX-V773 (95W/ch)? the power difference is negligible eh.
Ang alam ko na difference of Aventage and RX-V series is that Aventage has
A.R.T. (Anti-Resonance Technology) Wedge fifth foot (nagka-paa lang sa gitna) at aesthetics ng front panel. Kung may makita ka pa na RX-A810 mas makakamura ka pa, same specs except A820 has Airplay and 4K passthrough/upscaling.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: red_one on Nov 18, 2013 at 04:21 PM
@Allan_2180: ah, wala pala gaano difference in technology. external lang.

how about Denon AVR-X2000 vs Yamaha RX-V773? price is negligible, which has better features?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Allan_2180 on Nov 18, 2013 at 04:44 PM
@Allan_2180: ah, wala pala gaano difference in technology. external lang.

how about Denon AVR-X2000 vs Yamaha RX-V773? price is negligible, which has better features?
Mas lamang and RX-V773 dahil 2 HDMI OUT, magagamit mo ito kung meron kang TV+Projector setup.
Mas lamang naman ang AVR-X2000 dahil sa Audyssey.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Jan 11, 2014 at 08:30 PM
mga bro ask ko lang kung may nakagamit na ba sa inyo ng Yamaha 571 my kuya kasi nakabili sa us nito problema ko lang hinde ko mapalabas yung DTS-HD master sa front panel ng yammy nya..may nmt is Egreat R6a-ii lahat ng audio settings nagalaw ko na nalagay ko na sa RAW lahat sa yammy naman standard lang kaso DTS lang ang nakikita ko sa panel.. any advise? thanks in advance
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Rmp on Jan 11, 2014 at 11:27 PM
Mga sir anong speakers po compatible sa yamaha rx-v620 receiver?tnx
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Jan 12, 2014 at 09:00 PM
mga bro ask ko lang kung may nakagamit na ba sa inyo ng Yamaha 571 my kuya kasi nakabili sa us nito problema ko lang hinde ko mapalabas yung DTS-HD master sa front panel ng yammy nya..may nmt is Egreat R6a-ii lahat ng audio settings nagalaw ko na nalagay ko na sa RAW lahat sa yammy naman standard lang kaso DTS lang ang nakikita ko sa panel.. any advise? thanks in advance
mga master any advise po?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Allan_2180 on Jan 13, 2014 at 12:09 PM
mga master any advise po?
na-try nyo na po mag palit ng shorter HDMI cable from Egreat to Yammy?
sa case ko kasi dati PCH-C200->lossy HDMI->Yammy A810 DTS din po lumalabas, after replacing hdmi cable napalabas ko din ung DTS-HD.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Jan 13, 2014 at 02:51 PM
ok sir will try that meron pa akong dalawang HDMI na extra thanks sa idea sir!!!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Jan 13, 2014 at 03:46 PM
 What Bluray player are you using?

...should be set to Bitstream, but also you need to make sure secondary audio is off. (if you want the receiver to display "Dts", "Dolby" etc)

With secondary audio on, this forces PCM in most cases. So turn it off if you want the receiver to display the codec.


nabasa ko lang sa forum may idea ba kayo sir kung papanu gawin ito? im using Egreat R6a-ii all audio is set to raw
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: rochie on Jan 13, 2014 at 06:18 PM
mga bro ask ko lang kung may nakagamit na ba sa inyo ng Yamaha 571 my kuya kasi nakabili sa us nito problema ko lang hinde ko mapalabas yung DTS-HD master sa front panel ng yammy nya..may nmt is Egreat R6a-ii lahat ng audio settings nagalaw ko na nalagay ko na sa RAW lahat sa yammy naman standard lang kaso DTS lang ang nakikita ko sa panel.. any advise? thanks in advance


you're using egreat as the media player?and your source is mkv or video file (H264) right? baka yung video file mo ang DTS lang not DTS-HDMA, press mo yung audio butto nsa remote ng egreat para makita mo kung ano yung audio ng video file na play mo kung DTS-HDMA nga
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Jan 14, 2014 at 04:30 PM
thanks mga sir i have already solved the problem by reset to factory default my egreat ok na po sya nalabas na ang DTS-HD MAster
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sebastwt on Mar 22, 2014 at 09:44 AM
Mga Sir,feedback/comment naman sa Yamaha RX-A3030/Monitor Audio RX6 combo.Maganda ba silang partner?Maraming salamat!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kangkaroth on Mar 22, 2014 at 09:47 PM
May nakitang akong yamaha573 bnew for 18k mga sir. Musta po ba performance nun and any feedbacks about it? Thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Mar 28, 2014 at 02:08 PM
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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
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Beautiful,..!

Congrats sir.. ang ganda.. I'm a Yamaha Aventage Receiver fan.. i must say Aventage receivers sound really awesome.. This is the only equipment that i have not upgrade yet simply because it sounds awesome..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Mar 30, 2014 at 09:00 PM
Thanks sir,...
Remember a few months back ng nagtatanong ako about Aventage and Denon,
I ended up staying with Yamaha, besides the wife bought it without asking me hahaha
anyhow, it was indeed a GREAT choice, the sound is crisp and clear, walang bitin ang Monitors sa kanya, and for the first time in my entire life nagkaruon ng katawan ang music ko... LOL,..

The last Yamaha that I bought brand new served me quite well for over a decade,
Am sure the quality and performance of this unit will surpass that,...

Got a great deal with this too, she paid $900 plus $100 for an extended 2 years warranty, that is on top of the 3 year manufacturer warranty, the regular price was at $1200, nagkataon daw na nag-sale nung kunin nya...

I love this Aventage, ibang iba ang linis ng tunog nya...

Oh and I love the upscaling feature, may dala kasi akong Hyundai Videoke dito,
and inalis na kasi lahat ng TV makers ang S-video input, kaya nagamit ko sya dito via S-video input ng Aventage, out ng HDMI, am quite happy with that,...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: tonedeaf on Mar 30, 2014 at 09:13 PM
Great acquisition and price!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Allan_2180 on Apr 01, 2014 at 09:01 AM
That's a great buy Sir! :D
also a Yamaha Aventage fan here.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Apr 02, 2014 at 12:31 PM
Pure Direct,... Wow..!
Sound quality is awesome,...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ninjababez® on Apr 06, 2014 at 06:52 AM
Pure Direct,... Wow..!
Sound quality is awesome,...
its just bypassing the processing bro.  meron din nyan sa denon :P
seriously bro lahat yata ng brand pag naka direct ka gumaganda ang tunog, ibig sabihin kaya nito pangit talaga ang may processing ;D ;D

btw sa music playback mo ba ginagamit ang pure direct bro?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Apr 09, 2014 at 11:53 AM
its just bypassing the processing bro.  meron din nyan sa denon :P
seriously bro lahat yata ng brand pag naka direct ka gumaganda ang tunog, ibig sabihin kaya nito pangit talaga ang may processing ;D ;D

btw sa music playback mo ba ginagamit ang pure direct bro?

Yes sir,...
FLAC,...

Regards,..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Allan_2180 on Apr 09, 2014 at 12:16 PM
Did you guys turn the ENHANCER ON?
I think vocals are more clearer also the highs,
Is it better to leave the ENHANCER ON feature?
What about the ADAPTIVE DRC feature?
I think overall sound is muffled at low volume
if I set it ON.
Did you leave it OFF?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Apr 09, 2014 at 12:30 PM
I leave the ADAPTIVE DRC OFF to get a more lively sound quality.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: egzbuen on Apr 15, 2014 at 03:21 PM
To everyone,

Is the 573 still a good choice?

Bakit yung 573 na nabili ko walang serial no.? Sa inyo ba meron?

TY

Hey buddy, how's your 573 coming along? How much and where did you buy yours? I am also planning to purchase this.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Apr 16, 2014 at 03:12 AM
its just bypassing the processing bro.  meron din nyan sa denon :P
seriously bro lahat yata ng brand pag naka direct ka gumaganda ang tunog, ibig sabihin kaya nito pangit talaga ang may processing ;D ;D

btw sa music playback mo ba ginagamit ang pure direct bro?

HAHAHA,...
Brod, nasanay ako sa bookshelf na medyo low end lang,
hindi ko akalain na may dahilan talaga ang pagiging mamahalin ng mga floorstanding na may pangalan,
nabuhay ang centerstage ko, and its a real pleasure listening to music now,...
The previous receiver I bought here from a fellow member ay may Pure Direct din,
but dahil nga sa hindi naman ganun kaganda ang speakers ko,
I hardly notice the difference sa sound,...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ninjababez® on Apr 16, 2014 at 10:05 AM
baka mas madali i drive yung bago mo speaker, tapos monster receiver pa :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kangkaroth on Apr 16, 2014 at 03:22 PM
hi mga sir, any feedback on the Yamaha 573?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: egzbuen on Apr 20, 2014 at 10:37 AM
Just want to get a feel of those Yamaha owners and their speakers, whats the best speaker match for Yammies... preferablly sub 20k for 4 BS and a center.

Just bought a Yammy yesterday ;)

Cheers.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mackyboboy on May 25, 2014 at 06:17 PM
Anyone here hu knows about Yamaha rxv 357?is this a good amp? How much kaya 2nd hand into ngayon?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: eliel20 on May 27, 2014 at 07:00 PM
yamaha 373 user here, as far wala naman ako concerns regarding sa performance nya
using the following set up
front: mordaunt ms912
center: wharfedale 10cs
back: wharfedale 121
subwoofer; Chrysalis by velodyne

still happy sa outputs being newbie, :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: nogo on May 27, 2014 at 08:16 PM
Yamaha rxv375 owner here. Im satisfied with it. Lots of dsp modes but I usuallly use "unprocessed" straight when watching concerts with dolby truehd and dts-hd ma tracks. My setup is on my signature.

Previous avr was rxv476 but unfortunately na yolanda, ayun nasira

:-)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: egzbuen on May 28, 2014 at 07:44 PM
Any Yammy user who has successfully attached/connected a tablet to their amp via USB? Is this possible? I am planning to use a Blackberry Playbook.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: nogo on May 28, 2014 at 07:46 PM
Tried with 375 with galaxy s2 and s3 but to no avail. Successful with iphone.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: egzbuen on May 28, 2014 at 07:54 PM
Tried with 375 with galaxy s2 and s3 but to no avail. Successful with iphone.

Thanks for chiming in. I guess my Playbook would even be harder to connect successfully.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: nogo on May 28, 2014 at 08:00 PM
Just try to enable mass storage device in playbook when connected to yamaha.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: egzbuen on May 28, 2014 at 08:05 PM
Just try to enable mass storage device in playbook when connected to yamaha.

Will give it a shot this weekend. Am I not risking anything in trying it, both the amp and the tablet?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: hattori_hanzo on Jun 13, 2014 at 03:36 PM
hello guys im looking for an old model yamaha RXV995, anyone upgrading and selling theirs im willing to buy just PM me the price and the condition of the unit, thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Jun 26, 2014 at 01:55 PM
 
Yamaha Aventage with Dolby Atmos, cross-posting from sir Nelson:
 
Si Yamaha meron na din.
http://www.whathifi.com/news/yamaha-unveils-aventage-rx-a40-av-receiver-range (http://www.whathifi.com/news/yamaha-unveils-aventage-rx-a40-av-receiver-range)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: titor on Jul 01, 2014 at 04:15 AM
Any Yammy user who has successfully attached/connected a tablet to their amp via USB? Is this possible? I am planning to use a Blackberry Playbook.

Thanks.

Tried Iphone/Ipda and Samsung Tab. All work fine. BTW im using 671
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Jul 01, 2014 at 12:48 PM
Under 3 years warranty ako, sirain ko na ito pag labas ng RXA1040 o 2040,...
Hehehehe
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Dec 08, 2014 at 12:56 AM
Most of the topics regarding YPAO here seems to be buried already, anyone here uses this function or they just follow by ear..? Coz I just used it last night and was kinda surprised with its results...
Title: Re: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: azzileur on Dec 08, 2014 at 07:04 AM
Most of the topics regarding YPAO here seems to be buried already, anyone here uses this function or they just follow by ear..? Coz I just used it last night and was kinda surprised with its results...
Used it recently again after upgrading my CS and I am OK with the results.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: goma_23 on Dec 15, 2014 at 09:03 AM
Sirs ,

ano po ba recommended yamaha model nyo? for newbie like me, and how much po kayang budget ang need if i were to setup an entry level Home Theater System

tia
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: rey031 on Jan 05, 2015 at 06:11 PM
Is the Yamaha RX-V477 available here in the Philippines? Where can it be bought and for how much?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: keema on Jan 07, 2015 at 06:16 PM
Mga Sirs,

Need your opinion. I just found a good priced RX-V3800 receiver. It is secand hand.

Do you think this is still a good receiver?

Thanks,
Christian
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mari_cailles on Jan 14, 2015 at 01:39 PM
I am planning on upgrading my amp. Looking at the Yamaha RX-V675 and RX-V677.
Amy recommendations? I can get the 675 for 400$ through my sister who will be coming from the states while getting the V677 would cost me 600$? which one do you think should I get considering the price difference? Thanks
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Jan 14, 2015 at 02:06 PM
I am planning on upgrading my amp. Looking at the Yamaha RX-V675 and RX-V677.
Amy recommendations? I can get the 675 for 400$ through my sister who will be coming from the states while getting the V677 would cost me 600$? which one do you think should I get considering the price difference? Thanks

Compare mo both models sa website nila, then you can decide if the difference in features (kung meron) is worth $200.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: rey031 on Jan 22, 2015 at 11:32 AM
I am planning on upgrading my amp. Looking at the Yamaha RX-V675 and RX-V677.
Amy recommendations? I can get the 675 for 400$ through my sister who will be coming from the states while getting the V677 would cost me 600$? which one do you think should I get considering the price difference? Thanks

The RX-V675 at the $399.95 price tag at Amazon ($250 discount) is a steal. It's last year's flagship priced at this year's entry-level RX-V377 local price. I would definitely buy that, if only I had someone to bring it home from the US and if only it were also 220V.

For me, the RX-V677 only has a few non-essential advantages based on the following FAQ, definitely not worth the $200 difference for me:

http://faq.yamaha.com/us/en/article/audio-visual/av-receivers-amps/rx/rx-v677_black_u/10797/8141/?current_page_id=1&sort=best&type=
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: psychro on Jan 22, 2015 at 12:43 PM
Sir, have u tried looking at http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/category/avreceiver/home-audio/receivers-amps/home-theater-receivers/1.html mga refurb since d international warranty ang receivers
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: egzbuen on Mar 05, 2015 at 12:35 AM
Does everyone use the YPAO calibration? Thoughts?

 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Mar 05, 2015 at 12:47 AM
I used it to get the general setting, then adjust/tweak settings based on preference.
Does everyone use the YPAO calibration? Thoughts?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: egzbuen on Mar 05, 2015 at 12:51 AM
Tried it for the first time the other day, the LFC was too weak, including the center. Had to adjust both LFE and Center levels.


Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Mar 05, 2015 at 08:22 AM
Often you do not get most of the LFE sound from the subs if the Fronts are set to Large.
Did you try to set the Fronts to Small?

Tried it for the first time the other day, the LFC was too weak, including the center. Had to adjust both LFE and Center levels.



Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: egzbuen on Mar 05, 2015 at 08:32 AM
Often you do not get most of the LFE sound from the subs if the Fronts are set to Large.
Did you try to set the Fronts to Small?


Thanks for the tip buddy. The YPAO indeed adjusted my fronts to large so set it to small after reading some reviews. Still wasn't getting enough LFE as YPAO set it to -6db. So I adjusted it to -2db which ok now. :)

The YPAO correctly measured though the distances of all the speakers. Its probably the acoustics of the room the made it hard for the YPAO to calibrate it.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Mar 05, 2015 at 08:35 AM
Does everyone use the YPAO calibration? Thoughts?

 

Nope. Di sya ganun ka galing. After calibrating mine using ypao, i still manually calibrate mine using spl meter.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: zram18 on Mar 07, 2015 at 09:13 PM
@ray031

brader, Yamaha rxv-477 model nakikita ko sa mga SM Appliance Center. P 25,500 ang price.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Mar 08, 2015 at 03:19 AM
Thanks for the tip buddy. The YPAO indeed adjusted my fronts to large so set it to small after reading some reviews. Still wasn't getting enough LFE as YPAO set it to -6db. So I adjusted it to -2db which ok now. :)

The YPAO correctly measured though the distances of all the speakers. Its probably the acoustics of the room the made it hard for the YPAO to calibrate it.
Tama naman calibration ng receivers at reference levels. Most of us feel bitin ang bass/LFE because we seldom if ever listen at reference levels, dahil masyado nang malakas and/or our system can't handle it. Listening below reference levels reduces our perception of the upper and lower frequencies, more so on the bass region. So tama rin na most of us boost the sub level to compensate. More experienced tweakers shape the response of their system to match the equal-loudness contour at their preferred listening levels.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: tonedeaf on Mar 08, 2015 at 08:05 AM
^when you say reference levels, that would mean when the volume level is set to "zero", right? I usually listen at -22 db, loudest at -18 or so.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Mar 08, 2015 at 09:40 AM
^when you say reference levels, that would mean when the volume level is set to "zero", right? I usually listen at -22 db, loudest at -18 or so.

I think reference level is volume level Of each channel which is 75db by spl device inside y
^when you say reference levels, that would mean when the volume level is set to "zero", right? I usually listen at -22 db, loudest at -18 or so.

Its the level where your speakers are calibrated at 75db using spl(correct me if im wrong mga experts) running pink noise.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: crazyhog on Mar 08, 2015 at 09:50 AM

I think reference level is volume level Of each channel which is 75db by spl device inside y
Its the level where your speakers are calibrated at 75db using spl(correct me if im wrong mga experts) running pink noise.

once calibrated thru SPL at 75db, Equivalent to "zero" ba sa volume?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Mar 08, 2015 at 10:01 AM
once calibrated thru SPL at 75db, Equivalent to "zero" ba sa volume?

Well, what i do is set the volume first sa receiver ko to 0db then run pink noise. Trim each channel lvl + or - in avr until spl reads 75db.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Mar 08, 2015 at 10:01 AM
Does anybody know where I can buy an autovolt Aventage 1040?

Wala pa sa 5th Avenue.  2014 model yon, pero 2013 models pa lang ang meron sa kanila.
Title: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: crazyhog on Mar 08, 2015 at 10:08 AM
Well, what i do is set the volume first sa receiver ko to 0db then run pink noise. Trim each channel lvl + or - in avr until spl reads 75db.
on this scenario,  ur not using AVR's auto calibration? On my case ( MCACC) wala ata way to set the volume to zero sa mismong calibration (. Unless you set zero volume before Auto Calib )
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Mar 08, 2015 at 10:09 AM
Does anybody know where I can buy an autovolt Aventage 1040?

Wala pa sa 5th Avenue.  2014 model yon, pero 2013 models pa lang ang meron sa kanila.

Alam kong another seller ng aventage is hi fi street. Sa bgc ata ang store nila. Though not sure kung meron na silang xx40 na aventage. Baka pwede mag pa order?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Mar 08, 2015 at 10:10 AM
on this scenario,  ur not using AVR's auto calibration? On my case ( MCACC) wala ata way to set the volume to zero.

Yes manual calibration. Well i do manual calibration after i ran the auto calibration and make little adjustment depending on my liking. Sometimes kasi di ko gusto result ng ypao.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: crazyhog on Mar 08, 2015 at 10:15 AM

Yes manual calibration. Well i do manual calibration after i ran the auto calibration and make little adjustment depending on my liking. Sometimes kasi di ko gusto result ng ypao.

Last question sir, how do u do manual calibration, para ma SPL each channel? ( ran pink noise and set AVR to all channel mode (?) and unplug each ? ) ganun ba sir?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Mar 08, 2015 at 10:19 AM
Last question sir, how do u do manual calibration, para ma SPL each channel? ( ran pink noise and set AVR to all channel mode (?) and unplug each ? ) ganun ba sir?

Yung yamaha kasi may manual calibration mode. You dont need to unplug each speakers. You can manually circulate to all channels running test tone(pink noise) including the subwoofer channel. While one channel is running the test tone, i can trim the db for that specific channel to reach 75db in spl reading. This is while master volume is set to 0db on the avr. Alam ko lahat ng receiver may manual calibration.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: crazyhog on Mar 08, 2015 at 10:23 AM

Yung yamaha kasi may manual calibration mode. You dont need to unplug each speakers. You can manually circulate to all channels running test tone(pink noise) including the subwoofer channel. While one channel is running the test tone, i can trim the db for that specific channel to reach 75db in spl reading. This is while master volume is set to 0db on the avr. Alam ko lahat ng receiver may manual calibration.

Ah ok gets ko na sir.. Tnx. double check ko n lang un master volume if it can be set at zero s mcacc..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Mar 08, 2015 at 10:28 AM
Ah ok gets ko na sir.. Tnx. double check ko n lang un master volume if it can be set at zero s mcacc..

Check mo yung manual calibration ng receiver mo.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Mar 08, 2015 at 11:30 AM
Alam kong another seller ng aventage is hi fi street. Sa bgc ata ang store nila. Though not sure kung meron na silang xx40 na aventage. Baka pwede mag pa order?

Thanks for the info sir. 
 
Tawagan ko sila.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Mar 08, 2015 at 01:12 PM
AVESCO din pala ang owner ng 1 High-Fi Street, same as 5th Avenue.
 
So pag wala sa 5th Avenue, wala rin sa 1 High-Fi.
 
Sabi ng 1 High-Fi, they only have Aventage 30 series (2013).  They will not release Aventage 40 series (2014), but they will release 50 series (2015) sometime in June or July this year.     
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: egzbuen on Mar 08, 2015 at 05:30 PM
AVESCO din pala ang owner ng 1 High-Fi Street, same as 5th Avenue.
 
So pag wala sa 5th Avenue, wala rin sa 1 High-Fi.
 
Sabi ng 1 High-Fi, they only have Aventage 30 series (2013).  They will not release Aventage 40 series (2014), but they will release 50 series (2015) sometime in June or July this year.     

Isn't that the company that owns or distributes Aiphone here in Manila?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: barrister on Mar 08, 2015 at 10:37 PM
Yes.  I googled it, and that's what the avesco.com.ph site says.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: zram18 on Mar 09, 2015 at 05:33 PM
kaya pala dami tindang Yamaha Receivers sa Avesco Cubao (near Gateway Mall) pagbaba lang ng LRT tapat jollibee Gateway. I thought ordinary store lang yung Avesco sa Cubao.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: egzbuen on Mar 09, 2015 at 08:07 PM
Yes.  I googled it, and that's what the avesco.com.ph site says.

I see, thanks. Had a bad experience with them as regards their Aiphone brand. More like customer relations experience.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: 3_0_3 on Mar 22, 2015 at 07:05 PM
Hi guys,

I do have yamaha RX-V440 and would like to revive my HT set-up. Would you know what speakers should I buy that would match my amp? Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Allan_2180 on Aug 29, 2015 at 01:16 AM
   The latest firmware update(higher than 1.60) killed my Aventage RX-A810.
The front panel now displays "Internal Error".
I tried upgrading again via USB but "Error 4000" appears.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dts_hdma on Aug 31, 2015 at 09:27 AM
^ thanks for the info. I have the 820 and never been updated since I got it 2 or 3 yrs ago. As long as walang problema di ako naguupdate.  ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Allan_2180 on Aug 31, 2015 at 02:50 PM
It always appears on the OSD na may latest firmware, and na-curious ako kung ano meron sa latest update I checked on Yamaha Aventage support site and found out firmware update version 1.60 lang ang nirelease nila and it was 11/21/2014 pa, I have no idea what is new with the new firmware so I go ahead with the upgrade and successful naman cya, wala naman nabago but I think it has something to do with Yamaha's MusicCast feature... and the next day when I turned on the unit [Internal Error] na lumabas sa display.

(http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae331/Allan_2180/DSC_1545_zpsjqjum8it.jpg)

What I did was unplugged all connections, pero same result. I tried downloading the previous firmware version 1.60 and execute USB update (PureDirect+Power button), it verified the firmware version 1.60...

(http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae331/Allan_2180/DSC_1550_zpsqrkgdtiw.jpg)

but in the end another error appeared. [ERROR! 4000]
(http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae331/Allan_2180/DSC_1551_zpsxdw3vdhe.jpg)

Since the unit was bought from the US so NO more warranty. I searched the internet regarding this error and found this german website: http://dsrocker.bplaced.net/internal-error-yamaha-rx-v671-rx-v673-fix/
and thought same series naman sila so there will be a chance na same board din ginamit ni Yamaha and referred to schematic diagram which is BOTTOM VIEW of the Circuit Board:

(http://dsrocker.bplaced.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/V671.jpg)

Found IC89 and just followed the steps according to the website and looked for the component pad to be solder bridged.

(http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae331/Allan_2180/DSC_1554_zpsinjao4tr.jpg)

plugged the unit and it displays [No Model Info]. Looks like the latest firmware didn't recognized the model info of the unit.

(http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae331/Allan_2180/DSC_1555_zpsq4wmjhxb.jpg)

I pressed Scene button "TV" until [*RX-A810] appears and pressed STRAIGHT button to confirm and the "*" disappears.

(http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae331/Allan_2180/DSC_1556_zpscmjtydzj.jpg)

Power off, unplug and removed the solder bridge.

(http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae331/Allan_2180/DSC_1561_zps68kdxebi.jpg)

Plug it in and it runs normal again! Just like no error happened. The firmware was reset to Version 1.60 again.

(http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae331/Allan_2180/DSC_1559_zpstbmnc0sb.jpg)

New firmware update notifies me again but I think I will not upgrade to the new firmware until it has been published in Yamaha Aventage support site.
http://download.yamaha.com/search/detail/?language=en&site=usa.yamaha.com&asset_id=63909&category_id=16622&product_id=1556662&1441003766

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dts_hdma on Aug 31, 2015 at 06:21 PM
Galing! Congrats! ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bhenard on Sep 05, 2015 at 07:56 AM
Buti pinagtyagaan mo sir,...although it's not mine.parang diko matanggap na it's just put into waste.
congrats sir!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: stratix2 on Sep 06, 2015 at 03:33 AM
Recent Yamaha user here (RXV-679) from Denon 3802 user back home. Soon upgrading to RXA 850 or 1040 as I sent my 679 home for my cousin to enjoy. Yamaha RXV series is a great receiver all in all (wala lang pre-out yung 679) so i let it go. Ipon konti for the Aventage series.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: alx on Sep 06, 2015 at 06:40 AM
Thanks for the tip buddy. The YPAO indeed adjusted my fronts to large so set it to small after reading some reviews. Still wasn't getting enough LFE as YPAO set it to -6db. So I adjusted it to -2db which ok now. :)

The YPAO correctly measured though the distances of all the speakers. Its probably the acoustics of the room the made it hard for the YPAO to calibrate it.

sir what model is ur amp? and ur sub? my aventage rx-a2000 ypao set the sub to 0. i adjusted it to +3 using pb1000.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: alx on Sep 09, 2015 at 11:02 AM
guys, pwede bang ma adjust ang crossover setting ng sub sa yamaha aventage rx-a2000?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: chrisP23 on Oct 10, 2015 at 07:33 AM
Looking for trusted Yamaha dealer.please send me PM. Thank you.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: airborne03 on Oct 14, 2015 at 09:06 AM
Hi, hope someone can help me with my RX-471. It's 3 years old and just yesterday it started turning on and off on its own. I have it plugged into a 110V outlet while on stand by, other than this it seems to be working ok. Any thoughts or suggestions are welcome. Btw, I bought my unit online on Amazon so no warranty, and if needed, I'm willing to pay to have it serviced. Thanks to those who can help.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jhelenz on Oct 14, 2015 at 01:42 PM
sa Banawe ko pinagawa yung Yamaha ko dati, forgot the name of the store. are you using avr? pansin ko lang sa mga Yamaha receivers prone sila magkaganyan (on off automatically) pag diretso sa outlet. 2 Yamaha receivers ko dati ganyan naging problema pero nung ginamitan ko ng avr hindi na naulit yung problem
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: airborne03 on Oct 14, 2015 at 04:09 PM
^ Sige, try ko muna siya ikabit sa avr, it's an easy fix if ganyan. Hope it works, thanks for the suggestion too.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bebot santos on Oct 16, 2015 at 12:33 AM
Please help, i have an rxv2077, kanina nabuhusan ng  juice ng anak ko, pinatuyo ko agad , magagamit ko ba ito? Tia!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: dts_hdma on Oct 16, 2015 at 07:49 AM
sayang naman... as much as possible wag muna i-ON. Be sure na dry na talaga. Pwede din bugahan siguro ng contact cleaner, manlalagkit kasi yung dried juice.  :-\
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: nelcarol1994 on Oct 16, 2015 at 08:26 AM
Please help, i have an rxv2077, kanina nabuhusan ng  juice ng anak ko, pinatuyo ko agad , magagamit ko ba ito? Tia!
Open it and let it dry maybe using fan. Do not connect anything on it if you want to test after you dry it. Yup contact cleaner is one of the best to get rid of the sticky juice spilled on the board!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bebot santos on Oct 16, 2015 at 10:50 PM
Safe din ba ang contact cleaner even sa IC , cap, Transformer na nakakabit dun?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: zonks on Oct 17, 2015 at 05:04 AM
http://www.amazon.com/Hosa-Cable-Deoxit-Contact-Cleaner/dp/B00006LVEU/ref=pd_bxgy_263_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=1GW15VVV0HKJRD49RQZ2
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 18, 2015 at 07:58 PM
sa Banawe ko pinagawa yung Yamaha ko dati, forgot the name of the store. are you using avr? pansin ko lang sa mga Yamaha receivers prone sila magkaganyan (on off automatically) pag diretso sa outlet. 2 Yamaha receivers ko dati ganyan naging problema pero nung ginamitan ko ng avr hindi na naulit yung problem

Audiworld po yung store na nasa banawe
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: bebot santos on Oct 25, 2015 at 10:13 PM
Open it and let it dry maybe using fan. Do not connect anything on it if you want to test after you dry it. Yup contact cleaner is one of the best to get rid of the sticky juice spilled on the board!
After having it cleaned and dry. In won't power. (Sigh)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: airborne03 on Nov 03, 2015 at 11:17 PM
As suggested above, I tried plugging mine into an avr, wala, ganun pa din. Will be bringing it to be repaired then.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: zram18 on Nov 03, 2015 at 11:32 PM
maybe its time to upgrade soon.... :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: airborne03 on Nov 04, 2015 at 04:02 PM
I'm not that hardcore an audiophile, I only have a modest set-up in a bedroom. If it comes to it, I'd rather upgrade my speaker system. Fingers crossed my avr get's repaired. =)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jamesknava on Nov 26, 2015 at 11:18 PM
amazon black friday deal of the day today -- RX-V677
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: zram18 on Nov 26, 2015 at 11:26 PM
how much sir? just curious.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jamesknava on Dec 04, 2015 at 04:21 PM
how much sir? just curious.

299USD.
back to 379 today.
i didnt buy because of the one consistent issue cited in customer reviews.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Jun_P on Dec 09, 2015 at 12:59 PM
My RXV-357 is dead   :'(
it won't power on. I'll check the back later today, might be a busted fuse(?)...

Any tips on what could have caused this, and what to look for? The AVR is connected directly to an outlet.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: comet on Dec 09, 2015 at 01:06 PM
try another power cord sir
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Jun_P on Dec 09, 2015 at 01:12 PM
try another power cord sir
di ata napapalitan power cord nun? Correct me if I'm wrong..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: comet on Dec 09, 2015 at 01:15 PM
oo nga akala ko pwedeng tanggalin
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Jun_P on Dec 09, 2015 at 01:20 PM
^anything else to check?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Dec 09, 2015 at 05:42 PM
Totally dead, not even a faint click or blinking lamp when you try to power it up?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Jun_P on Dec 09, 2015 at 06:25 PM
Totally dead, not even a faint click or blinking lamp when you try to power it up?

No response whatsoever..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Dec 09, 2015 at 08:12 PM
Could be anything from faulty standby circuit to dead microprocessor.
Title: Upgrading AVR
Post by: exaltedgamer on Dec 09, 2015 at 11:18 PM
I'm currently using the RX-V575 and thinking of upgrading to a unit with Dolby Atmos, any recommendation?

And do you think it would be worth it even if my place is not acoustically treated?

Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Jun_P on Dec 14, 2015 at 11:52 AM
Could be anything from faulty standby circuit to dead microprocessor.
Ok. Still haven't had the chance to look at it, unfortunately. Can I bring this back to Listen Up? Bought this from them... Need to know how much it will cost to repair, if they will/can repair it. Thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jamesknava on Dec 15, 2015 at 12:40 PM
Need to consult with the experts here please--

Yamaha RX-A550 or  Yamaha RX-V479BL ?

The Aventage is just 50 USD more than the RX-V479BL (399 vs 349 US Dcurrently in Amazon).

Which one to get? I dont plan to get the high-end speakers. Only looking to spend probably 25 K tops for the 5.1 speaker set.

Thank you.

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Jun_P on Jan 18, 2016 at 02:11 PM
Ok. Still haven't had the chance to look at it, unfortunately. Can I bring this back to Listen Up? Bought this from them... Need to know how much it will cost to repair, if they will/can repair it. Thanks.
Visited Listen Up in Glorietta. The technician there advised me to just bring my avr to 5th Avenue in Glorietta 5, since that is what they usually do. Couldn't even answer my questions as to how much it will cost and how long it will take. Visited 5th Avenue after that - the person I talked to said to just bring the avr to their shop. It will take about 3 - 4 weeks for them to diagnose and/or repair the unit. When asked about the cost, they don't know yet. Oh well.  ???

I'm now thinking whether to buy another 5.1 avr, or buy 2nd hand...
In case I wont be able to find the same avr, since I know lumang model na sya - What's a good replacement, since buhay pa naman yun speakers ng Yamaha ko (NSP110)?

Appreciate any advice...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Jun_P on Jan 27, 2016 at 03:32 PM
Visited Listen Up in Glorietta. The technician there advised me to just bring my avr to 5th Avenue in Glorietta 5, since that is what they usually do. Couldn't even answer my questions as to how much it will cost and how long it will take. Visited 5th Avenue after that - the person I talked to said to just bring the avr to their shop. It will take about 3 - 4 weeks for them to diagnose and/or repair the unit. When asked about the cost, they don't know yet. Oh well.  ???

I'm now thinking whether to buy another 5.1 avr, or buy 2nd hand...
In case I wont be able to find the same avr, since I know lumang model na sya - What's a good replacement, since buhay pa naman yun speakers ng Yamaha ko (NSP110)?

Appreciate any advice...
Anyone?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: nelcarol1994 on Jan 27, 2016 at 03:59 PM
Anyone?
If budget permit get rx-a1050 dolby atmos na yan.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Jun_P on Jan 27, 2016 at 05:33 PM
If budget permit get rx-a1050 dolby atmos na yan.
Thanks. Will this work with my current speakers? Was eyeing the Denon and Onkyo when I was in Listen Up. Both 5.1 only, and about 15K or less.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: nelcarol1994 on Jan 27, 2016 at 06:13 PM
Thanks. Will this work with my current speakers? Was eyeing the Denon and Onkyo when I was in Listen Up. Both 5.1 only, and about 15K or less.
Ano ba speaker mo sir? Denon is good choice also.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Jun_P on Jan 28, 2016 at 10:29 AM
Ano ba speaker mo sir? Denon is good choice also.
The one set that came with the RX-V357 avr when I bought it back in 2007 from Listen Up - NSP110.
Based on reviews I checked on the internet, mukhang kakayanin naman. Tama ba?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: nelcarol1994 on Jan 28, 2016 at 10:55 AM
The one set that came with the RX-V357 avr when I bought it back in 2007 from Listen Up - NSP110.
Based on reviews I checked on the internet, mukhang kakayanin naman. Tama ba?
I think it's better to upgrade na rin sir yong speaker nyo.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Bionic DJ on Jan 28, 2016 at 12:45 PM
is the RX-A1050 available locally now? how much kaya?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Jun_P on Feb 03, 2016 at 07:04 PM
I think it's better to upgrade na rin sir yong speaker nyo.
Thanks for the suggestion. Unless masira ang speakers, stick muna ako dun ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Icermad on Feb 08, 2016 at 08:36 PM
Ano speakers ok imatch sa Yamaha Aventage A820? Mainly used for HT and Gaming. Wala munang surrounds.. I have nowhere to put it kasi sa condo..Im looking at

PSB Imagine XB/X1T and XC
B&W 685S2/684 and HTM 61 S2
Q Acoustics 3020/3050 and 3090c

I've already auditioned all of them but until now ang hirap parin magdecide.. there's a moment where Im leaning towards B&W then PSB then B&W again..

Narinig ko Q acoustics maganda rin tumunog..and way cheaper..

Thank you guys!

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: zram18 on Feb 08, 2016 at 08:47 PM
my vote goes to Yamaha-PSB setup.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Icermad on Feb 08, 2016 at 11:15 PM
thank you! That's one for the PSB..
my vote goes to Yamaha-PSB setup.  :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: gutierrez on Feb 09, 2016 at 12:43 AM
PSB
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Feb 09, 2016 at 06:54 AM
Im a Yamaha Avantage-PSB user.. Very good for audio and HT. My vote goes to PSB
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Icermad on Feb 09, 2016 at 10:13 AM
Mukhang PSB na ah.. btw haven't heard the x2t malaki ba diff from x1t?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Feb 09, 2016 at 10:27 AM
Mukhang PSB na ah.. btw haven't heard the x2t malaki ba diff from x1t?

I was able to audition the X2T on music only but wasnt able to compare it with X1T. X2T sounded awesome on music playback IMO. Big sound stage and awesome bass
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Icermad on Feb 09, 2016 at 10:56 AM
Nice..btw Besides spectra.. sino pa nagcacarry ng PSB speakers? Parang sa iba wala sila nung new imagine series e..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Feb 09, 2016 at 10:58 AM
Nice..btw Besides spectra.. sino pa nagcacarry ng PSB speakers? Parang sa iba wala sila nung new imagine series e..

Watts Hi Fi at Makati Cinema Square.. AVSHOP, Tein
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Icermad on Feb 09, 2016 at 11:02 AM
Thank you sir.. willl check those stores :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: GIJoe on Feb 09, 2016 at 11:04 AM
Im a Yamaha Avantage-PSB user.. Very good for audio and HT. My vote goes to PSB

Nangungulam ka na naman brader  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Feb 09, 2016 at 11:09 AM
Nangungulam ka na naman brader  >:D >:D >:D

EPSON and AMD Rules!!!!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: GIJoe on Feb 09, 2016 at 11:12 AM
EPSON and AMD Rules!!!!

wala na un sira na sila  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Icermad on Feb 10, 2016 at 11:40 AM
If I add a power amp ba will it make a lot of difference?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Feb 10, 2016 at 11:46 AM
If I add a power amp ba will it make a lot of difference?

I did felt theres a difference when i added one in mine. I have the Aventage RX-A2000 and i added Emotiva power amp...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Icermad on Feb 10, 2016 at 01:29 PM
Thank you sige..I will consider that :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kranoz on Mar 03, 2016 at 02:11 PM
Hi guys,

Question po on Yamaha Receivers.

If given a chance to choose between the two (on a same price), which one will be better?

Yamaha Aventage A-840
Yamaha RXV-777

specs kinda looks the same to me, what could be the noticable difference between the two?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Mar 03, 2016 at 03:00 PM
Hi guys,

Question po on Yamaha Receivers.

If given a chance to choose between the two (on a same price), which one will be better?

Yamaha Aventage A-840
Yamaha RXV-777

specs kinda looks the same to me, what could be the noticable difference between the two?

Get the Avantage
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: kranoz on Mar 03, 2016 at 07:55 PM
Get the Avantage

Thanks Sir Courage. Yan na nga napupusuan ko.

I'm just curious kasi parang pag tiningnan mo sa papers parang parehas lang halos yung specs nila.
:)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Icermad on Mar 03, 2016 at 08:42 PM
Aventage for me too
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Carps on Mar 18, 2016 at 11:53 PM
Hi mga masters. Just recently got aYamaha  Aventage A850. Just want to ask how you set the dynamic range - maximum, standard or minimum/auto? I find kasi that setting it to minimum/auto makes the action scenes more lively, I just don't know if I'm doing it right.
Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: scoob on Aug 29, 2016 at 09:30 PM
Available na ba rxv 681 locally?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Aug 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM
Hi mga masters. Just recently got aYamaha  Aventage A850. Just want to ask how you set the dynamic range - maximum, standard or minimum/auto? I find kasi that setting it to minimum/auto makes the action scenes more lively, I just don't know if I'm doing it right.
Thanks in advance.

I use Maximum. Minimum is good if you dont want to wake up your neighbors, kasi you can here everything even at low volume. MAX is a setting wherein theres no adjustment made to output. You hear exactly how it was recorded on all channels.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Aug 30, 2016 at 11:56 AM
I share your experience.
a) Minimum is there is NO muting of the dynamic range so you hear the full effects. More variance in the volume.
b) Maximum is there is less dynamic range or variance in volume. The AVR will mute the effects to lessen volume effects.
Hi mga masters. Just recently got aYamaha  Aventage A850. Just want to ask how you set the dynamic range - maximum, standard or minimum/auto? I find kasi that setting it to minimum/auto makes the action scenes more lively, I just don't know if I'm doing it right.
Thanks in advance.
I use Maximum. Minimum is good if you dont want to wake up your neighbors, kasi you can here everything even at low volume. MAX is a setting wherein theres no adjustment made to output. You hear exactly how it was recorded on all channels.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: arcbodom on Sep 11, 2016 at 05:03 PM
rx-v781 and rx-a860 are pretty much the same. You get 3 yrs warranty on aventage and 2 yra on standard rx-v models. Here in NZ/AUS area, you can get the rx-v781 at almost $500 less than rx-a860. Best bang for buck is 781 imho. You can buy a multi-channel amp if your room is larger.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: alx on Sep 28, 2016 at 11:20 AM
is there a way to play spotify on yamaha aventage rx-a2000?

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: psi on Sep 28, 2016 at 08:20 PM
Guys, anu diff ng mid range from entry level in terms os sound quality? What are the new mid range level of yamaha for 2016? Tia
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Oct 18, 2016 at 06:48 AM
Between the a740 vs the rxv675 anu mas maganda? I checked the both specs and they are almost the same. Or may hinde lang ako nakita? Please advise mga brader
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Oct 18, 2016 at 08:52 AM
Between the a740 vs the rxv675 anu mas maganda? I checked the both specs and they are almost the same. Or may hinde lang ako nakita? Please advise mga brader

I think they are same in specs, and only difference probably is in the components used, Aventage being on a higher end than the RX line..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Oct 18, 2016 at 10:23 AM
I think they are same in specs, and only difference probably is in the components used, Aventage being on a higher end than the RX line..

Thanks courage. If ikaw bbili the difference is just 1500 php what would you pick?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Oct 18, 2016 at 12:17 PM
Thanks courage. If ikaw bbili the difference is just 1500 php what would you pick?

I'll get teh Aventage. I've been an Aventage user for 4 years, no issue and still happy with it.. I even bought mine sa US, so wala syang Warranty..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Oct 18, 2016 at 12:51 PM
I'll get teh Aventage. I've been an Aventage user for 4 years, no issue and still happy with it.. I even bought mine sa US, so wala syang Warranty..



Salamat brader
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raymonddelprado on Nov 29, 2016 at 07:29 PM
I would like to sk for your suggestions on what Yamaha 7.1 receiver with atmos that I can pair with wharf 220 and 220c as starter setup? Thank you.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: raymonddelprado on Dec 04, 2016 at 09:41 PM
Aside from 5th Avenue, where I can find Yamaha receivers around the Metro?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: alx on Dec 08, 2016 at 11:59 PM
anyone tried using pure direct watching movies on aventage receiver?

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: azzileur on Dec 09, 2016 at 10:41 AM
Aside from 5th Avenue, where I can find Yamaha receivers around the Metro?

I saw them at Anson's and Western also.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JeromeA on Dec 17, 2016 at 11:59 PM
my wife was disappointed with my Yamaha AVR, wala daw kasi sya nakitang yamaha sa hifi show.hahahahaha
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Dec 27, 2016 at 01:05 PM
Was able to find a Yamaha Aventage RX-A2040 for only $490,..!
It was indeed a steal, I do remember it was priced at $1500 when it came out,
I'm already using the older sister, the RX-A1030, and this BIGGER sister is gonna be staying in the master bedroom...!
SWEET,..!

(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z247/ABCmotorparts/IMG_0307_zps5sz80ihz.jpg) (http://s195.photobucket.com/user/ABCmotorparts/media/IMG_0307_zps5sz80ihz.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: alx on Dec 27, 2016 at 01:09 PM
Was able to find a Yamaha Aventage RX-A2040 for only $490,..!
It was indeed a steal, I do remember it was priced at $1500 when it came out,
I'm already using the older sister, the RX-A1030, and this BIGGER sister is gonna be staying in the master bedroom...!
SWEET,..!

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Nice catch sir ABC. hows the performance? Have u tried using pure direct watching movies??
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JeromeA on Dec 28, 2016 at 09:30 AM
^^
wow congrats sir.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Dec 31, 2016 at 09:41 AM
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She is a beauty,.. Great price too,..!
Best deal at 70% off,..! Just got really really lucky on this one,...
Definitely a HAPPY NEW YEAR,..!
The Paradigms are on their way,... Sweet...

I love the Yamaha AV app, quite handy really,...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Dec 31, 2016 at 10:07 AM
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She is a beauty,.. Great price too,..!
Best deal at 70% off,..! Just got really really lucky on this one,...
Definitely a HAPPY NEW YEAR,..!
The Paradigms are on their way,... Sweet...

I love the Yamaha AV app, quite handy really,...

Nice one.. Ganda.. I'm a fan of Aventage of Yamaha.. Bought my RX-A2000 in US when it was first released by Yamaha, mahal kasi dito sa pinas. So far it never gave me any problems, still same  as when i first unbox it. For me, Yamaha is very reliable compared to other brands. Ilang Yamaha na dumaan sa akin and none gave me issues compared to other brands that i owned.

Congrats sir..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: toys4geeks on Dec 31, 2016 at 10:10 AM
Was able to find a Yamaha Aventage RX-A2040 for only $490,..!
It was indeed a steal, I do remember it was priced at $1500 when it came out,
I'm already using the older sister, the RX-A1030, and this BIGGER sister is gonna be staying in the master bedroom...!
SWEET,..!

(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z247/ABCmotorparts/IMG_0307_zps5sz80ihz.jpg) (http://s195.photobucket.com/user/ABCmotorparts/media/IMG_0307_zps5sz80ihz.jpg.html)
Nice!! Yan ang hahakutin ko djan soon atmos na?


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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Dec 31, 2016 at 10:25 AM
Nice!! Yan ang hahakutin ko djan soon atmos na?


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Brader Jim, yung RX-AXX60 na? Baka pwede dumamay ng RX-A2060 he he he
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: toys4geeks on Dec 31, 2016 at 10:29 AM
Brader Jim, yung RX-AXX60 na?
BrAder Jason,HNY! Sana pag swak sa budget

I have until march to hunt for one . I like the Yamaha Kung ganyan presyo dapat ata bilin na soonest.


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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Dec 31, 2016 at 10:32 AM
BrAder Jason,HNY! Sana pag swak sa budget

I have until march to hunt for one . I like the Yamaha Kung ganyan presyo dapat ata bilin na soonest.


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By that time mas mababa na ang presyo compared sa ngayon.. I bought my Yamaha dati sa EBAY lang BNEW sealed and had it shipped to my moms address, dinala lang nila dito nung umuwi sila.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: azzileur on Dec 31, 2016 at 11:10 AM
Autovolt ba ang mga Yamaha receivers galing US?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Courage on Dec 31, 2016 at 11:48 AM
Autovolt ba ang mga Yamaha receivers galing US?

110 lang sir, though i'm not sure about the new models
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: toys4geeks on Dec 31, 2016 at 02:46 PM
110 lang sir, though i'm not sure about the new models

Basta me 2kva servo transformer ka ok na 110v

Tibay nga ng Yamaha considering abused ang HT AVR sa home namin-- movies, karaoke ,  pag pay per view  :)





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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Dec 31, 2016 at 09:12 PM
Nice!! Yan ang hahakutin ko djan soon atmos na?

Yes sir, Dolby ATMOS na sya...
Stock firmware pa ng makuha ko, hindi makita ng iPhone app, pero after the firmware update,
everything is perfect,..! Doing some research sa latest prices, kahit ang lower RX-A1040 ay nasa $600 - $700 range (open box)
Hamak mura pa rin ang kuha ko at $490,...
This is my 4th Yamaha, eversince Yamaha ang gamit ko, subok ko na ang tibay talaga,
though hindi naman abusive ang gamit ko kasi, -15db on music and movies,
very rare na lumagpas pa ako duon, I started with the RX-V592, then nagpalit ako ng second hand dyan sa atin,
then Step up na ako sa Aventage RX-A1030 ng dumating ako dito, then yan nga ngayon the RX-A2040,...
The 1030 is paired with an Adcom GFA6000, and hindi ko na gagalawin ang setup sa sala, sa bedroom na malalagay itong
mas malakas na 2040,...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: toys4geeks on Dec 31, 2016 at 09:27 PM
Yes sir, Dolby ATMOS na sya...
Stock firmware pa ng makuha ko, hindi makita ng iPhone app, pero after the firmware update,
everything is perfect,..! Doing some research sa latest prices, kahit ang lower RX-A1040 ay nasa $600 - $700 range (open box)
Hamak mura pa rin ang kuha ko at $490,...
This is my 4th Yamaha, eversince Yamaha ang gamit ko, subok ko na ang tibay talaga,
though hindi naman abusive ang gamit ko kasi, -15db on music and movies,
very rare na lumagpas pa ako duon, I started with the RX-V592, then nagpalit ako ng second hand dyan sa atin,
then Step up na ako sa Aventage RX-A1030 ng dumating ako dito, then yan nga ngayon the RX-A2040,...
The 1030 is paired with an Adcom GFA6000, and hindi ko na gagalawin ang setup sa sala, sa bedroom na malalagay itong
mas malakas na 2040,...
Me kapatid ba yan sa binilan mo? Pa PM details I'll try to hunt ulit. I'll visit CA sometime march


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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Jan 02, 2017 at 06:47 AM
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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: toys4geeks on Jan 02, 2017 at 05:19 PM
Ty abang mode muna


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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sparco on Apr 30, 2017 at 09:46 AM
Happy with my entry level RX-V381  upgrade na lang unti-unti ng speakers dahil sa kulam (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170430/8f9bc3fd43be1bb9373e2db9cc93c22c.jpg)

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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Peeves on May 02, 2017 at 02:05 PM
How is the performance ng V381? And where did you buy? Was thinking of getting the same receiver
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sparco on May 03, 2017 at 01:43 AM
How is the performance ng V381? And where did you buy? Was thinking of getting the same receiver
i bought it sir at western appliance sa festival, with yamaha ns-p40 speaker set (budget meal). easy to set up. for me great performance for an entry level a/v receiver, especially sa movies.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mhacman on May 15, 2017 at 04:09 PM
I've been meaning (if the wifey approves) to set-up a second HT on our bedroom and also plan to get a ATMOS/DTS:X model like the Denon we currently have in our main room.

2017 Yammy models are about to come out, so is it still good to buy the 2016 RX-V681?  where can I seriously audition this AVR model?

in case I go with the 2017 model, I'm eyeing the RX-V683 or the Aventage A770, both with Dolby Vision + HLG.  I'm already leaning towards the Aventage series, since they're at the same price point, almost.

what I liked with the Yammy (over the current Denon's) is that Yammy is a master of Cinema DSP & "Virtual" things i.e. these mentioned AVR's are only 5.2.2 amplification but can be expanded to 5.2.4 (using an actual 9 speakers on a 7-speaker AVR) -- according to their user manuals.

wish me luck, soon... =)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sparco on May 15, 2017 at 08:43 PM
I've been meaning (if the wifey approves) to set-up a second HT on our bedroom and also plan to get a ATMOS/DTS:X model like the Denon we currently have in our main room.

2017 Yammy models are about to come out, so is it still good to buy the 2016 RX-V681?  where can I seriously audition this AVR model?

in case I go with the 2017 model, I'm eyeing the RX-V683 or the Aventage A770, both with Dolby Vision + HLG.  I'm already leaning towards the Aventage series, since they're at the same price point, almost.

what I liked with the Yammy (over the current Denon's) is that Yammy is a master of Cinema DSP & "Virtual" things i.e. these mentioned AVR's are only 5.2.2 amplification but can be expanded to 5.2.4 (using an actual 9 speakers on a 7-speaker AVR) -- according to their user manuals.

wish me luck, soon... =)
good luck sir mhacman! go for it, any of that 2 (2017) models from yamaha, panalo pero iba talaga pag sinabing Aventage series

for rxv-681, sa western i asked last saturday sa festival mall, upto rxv-581 lang stock nila, upper models by order basis sa distributor nila. Pag new models, like 2017 83 series, usually 3rd quarter daw nadating.  Ang distro nila is Avesco sa cubao, sa aurora blvd. may showroom din.

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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mhacman on May 16, 2017 at 02:14 PM
^ thank you, sir @sparco!  I'll check the rx-v581 too.

I've been a yamaha user (TSS-10, 2002 & RX-V350, 2004)... gusto ko sumubok bumalik sa yamaha =))

I'll visit Avesco to audition RX-v681 (and bring my speakers), isang tawid lang naman from Gateway =))  start ko na convince & get approval with the wifey  ^-^
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sparco on May 16, 2017 at 02:24 PM
^ thank you, sir @sparco!  I'll check the rx-v581 too.

I've been a yamaha user (TSS-10, 2002 & RX-V350, 2004)... gusto ko sumubok bumalik sa yamaha =))

I'll visit Avesco to audition RX-v681 (and bring my speakers), isang tawid lang naman from Gateway =))  start ko na convince & get approval with the wifey  ^-^
update na lang kayo sir mhacman, baka mas mura unit pag sa avesco kumuha  try niyo rin sa 5th avenue electronics, yamaha din receivers nila, sa trinoma and megamall yata may store sila 

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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: turismo1997 on May 16, 2017 at 10:18 PM
Sir Abc saan pong online store nyo na score. I'm currently in NY.

Yes sir, Dolby ATMOS na sya...
Stock firmware pa ng makuha ko, hindi makita ng iPhone app, pero after the firmware update,
everything is perfect,..! Doing some research sa latest prices, kahit ang lower RX-A1040 ay nasa $600 - $700 range (open box)
Hamak mura pa rin ang kuha ko at $490,...
This is my 4th Yamaha, eversince Yamaha ang gamit ko, subok ko na ang tibay talaga,
though hindi naman abusive ang gamit ko kasi, -15db on music and movies,
very rare na lumagpas pa ako duon, I started with the RX-V592, then nagpalit ako ng second hand dyan sa atin,
then Step up na ako sa Aventage RX-A1030 ng dumating ako dito, then yan nga ngayon the RX-A2040,...
The 1030 is paired with an Adcom GFA6000, and hindi ko na gagalawin ang setup sa sala, sa bedroom na malalagay itong
mas malakas na 2040,...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: azzileur on May 17, 2017 at 10:43 AM
^ thank you, sir @sparco!  I'll check the rx-v581 too.

I've been a yamaha user (TSS-10, 2002 & RX-V350, 2004)... gusto ko sumubok bumalik sa yamaha =))

I'll visit Avesco to audition RX-v681 (and bring my speakers), isang tawid lang naman from Gateway =))  start ko na convince & get approval with the wifey  ^-^

sama ako sir @mhacman!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: paolorenzo on May 17, 2017 at 10:47 AM
oist!  sama ako sa Avesco!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: comet on May 17, 2017 at 12:26 PM
yung aventage models meron ang 1hifi street
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sparco on May 17, 2017 at 01:25 PM
kung malapit lang cubao sa batangas, nakasama rin sana!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mhacman on May 21, 2017 at 01:20 AM
sir @paolorenzo/ruelmercado, unfortunately wala daw demo set-up sa Avesco.  sayang, isang tawid lang sana sa Gateway..

it's better set-up at 5th Ave, Shangri-La, though... so dun ang auditioning.

paps @sparco, wala pa yung gusto ko.. tama ka, Ber months pa daw dadating 2017 models =))  ipon mode na!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sparco on May 21, 2017 at 10:45 AM
sir @paolorenzo/ruelmercado, unfortunately wala daw demo set-up sa Avesco.  sayang, isang tawid lang sana sa Gateway..

it's better set-up at 5th Ave, Shangri-La, though... so dun ang auditioning.

paps @sparco, wala pa yung gusto ko.. tama ka, Ber months pa daw dadating 2017 models =))  ipon mode na!
ipon mode na sir mhacman rxv 683 na model target mo paps or aventage 70 series?

sa avesco do they also sell units? mas mura ba sa kanila? thanks!

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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mhacman on May 21, 2017 at 08:58 PM
sir @sparco, yes they also sell there.  I'm targeting the Aventage 70 series =)

the Avesco rep I was able to speak with gives at least 12% discount on cash deals...  di ko na mapiga pa, hanggang dun nlang yata...

as Avesco is Yamaha's PH distributor, I believe they keep their SRP's standard among their dealers =))
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sparco on May 21, 2017 at 09:18 PM
sir @sparco, yes they also sell there.  I'm targeting the Aventage 70 series =)

the Avesco rep I was able to speak with gives at least 12% discount on cash deals...  di ko na mapiga pa, hanggang dun nlang yata...

as Avesco is Yamaha's PH distributor, I believe they keep their SRP's standard among their dealers =))
thanks sir @mhacman! malayo pa ber months, simula ng mag-ipon

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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: robdjhojd on May 24, 2017 at 10:45 AM
Maganda ba i pair ang yamaha aventage series sa Polk RTI's? i currently have Onkyo 3009 and planning to upgrade my avr  choosing with yamaha and marantz..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JeromeA on May 26, 2017 at 11:11 PM
Maganda ba i pair ang yamaha aventage series sa Polk RTI's? i currently have Onkyo 3009 and planning to upgrade my avr  choosing with yamaha and marantz..

bossing lagi sinusuggest ang combination ng yamaha at polk..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: turismo1997 on Jul 05, 2017 at 07:15 AM
Sir anong website po ito? I'm here in the US and will have it ship back to PHL.

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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ninjababez® on Jul 05, 2017 at 08:14 AM
bossing lagi sinusuggest ang combination ng yamaha at polk..
bright receiver and  speaker combo
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: turismo1997 on Jul 05, 2017 at 07:44 PM
Anyone still using monitor rx6 with yamaha? Considered ba na bright yung MA speakers? I want to upgrade to rxa1060 from rxv1800 to keep up with new tech.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: rmSX13 on Jul 06, 2017 at 03:22 PM
Anyone know where can I get Yamaha AVR RX-V483? Around QC banawe area ;D
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mhacman on Jul 06, 2017 at 08:28 PM
^83 series is 2017 model... Avesco said they'd arrive/launch by Q4 (Ber months)

i'm also waiting for Aventage's ^70 series to arrive...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: turismo1997 on Jul 11, 2017 at 11:39 AM
Sir anong website po ito? I'm here in the US and will have it ship back to PHL.


Sariling kayod. Looks like Fry's
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: turismo1997 on Jul 12, 2017 at 04:44 AM
Would you consider this a downgrade. Rxv1800 130w per channel to rxa1060 110 watt per channel?

The 1800 was bought 7 or 8 yrs ago and doesn't have a 3d pass thru. That is why my blu ray player have 2 hdmi out.

I currently have ma rx6 series speakers.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ninjababez® on Jul 12, 2017 at 08:52 AM
^yes; BUT what speakers are you using?  HT floor area?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: turismo1997 on Jul 12, 2017 at 09:24 AM
Im using monitor audio rx6, center and surround  svs sub.

Room is about 200 sq foot.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: turismo1997 on Jul 14, 2017 at 04:42 PM
Any ideas pricing ng rx-a3060 sa pinas?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mhacman on Jul 14, 2017 at 10:35 PM
^ around P112K SRP... talk with Avesco or any 5th Ave. shops
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: turismo1997 on Jul 15, 2017 at 01:04 AM
^ around P112K SRP... talk with Avesco or any 5th Ave. shops

Thanks. Looks like the refurbished route for me.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Aug 12, 2017 at 02:36 AM
Sir anong website po ito? I'm here in the US and will have it ship back to PHL.


Pardon the very late reply,
Fry's Electronics often sell those open boxes units, insane prices too,...
Sadly, sakit ng ulo ang pagbili online, you have to be at the exact store para
on hand ang unit, hindi updated ang database nila, naswertehan ko lang
ang Aventage ko talaga, but good luck though...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: turismo1997 on Aug 12, 2017 at 03:39 AM
Thanks Sir ABC. Yep, I was able to trace the pix you posted to Fry's. Kaya lang wala silang deal :-(

Pardon the very late reply,
Fry's Electronics often sell those open boxes units, insane prices too,...
Sadly, sakit ng ulo ang pagbili online, you have to be at the exact store para
on hand ang unit, hindi updated ang database nila, naswertehan ko lang
ang Aventage ko talaga, but good luck though...

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Aug 12, 2017 at 09:19 AM
Fry's Electronics is like the local palengke ng mga electronics and gadgets, magulo at walang systema, during big holiday season like Black Friday, una-unahan yan, then halos once every month, pinapalitan ang mga floor models, then yun ang mga ibinebenta ng halos 25% lang ng original price, they tend to post everything online,
pero dahil floor model, hindi allowed ang shipping, and you have to pick it up sa store na kung saan ito nakadisplay. So basically, pag nakita mo online, then kahit nai-file mo na ang order online, walang kasiguraduhan yan na makukuha mo, coz nakadisplay yan panigurado sa floor.

They also sell such items as brand new and yea, regular priced na ang mga yun, madalas silang magbagsak ng prices sa mga speakers, subwoofers and receivers, but again, una-unahan yan, kaya kadalasan they monitor the website sa mga deals ng clearance and open boxes nila.

The Yamaha RX-A2040 na nakuha ko ay ganyan ang nangyari, was able to file the order, pero the next day I received a cancellation email from them, and a call saying na hindi nila makita ang unit, either nabenta na raw or mali ang inventory. Eh sabi ko I was already on the way to pick it up, so I had to talk to the manager, he then referred me to their HT manager, the good thing was, that HT manager was the one who install the unit in one of their showroom. So inabutan kong umaandar at natest ko sya sa floor. I would not trust their inventory online, sadyang magulo talaga, but, if you get really lucky, you will definitely get an awesome deal...

Cheers
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: shuttertrigger on Sep 28, 2017 at 04:13 AM
I recently got a Yamaha RX 396 Stereo Receiver. Ang ganda ng palo! hehe
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: turismo1997 on Sep 28, 2017 at 06:23 AM
Currently using omni 1.5kv on rx a3060. Enough na kaya?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Sep 29, 2017 at 08:36 PM
Currently using omni 1.5kv on rx a3060. Enough na kaya?

1.5kva is more than enough... ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: alvinbaronsia on Sep 30, 2017 at 10:25 PM
Has anyone compared aventage and rxv? I'm looking to buy a new receiver and thinking of going either rxv583 or av670. I'm hoping the aventage would be better than the rxv for music, but most of what I read in google say that it's mostly for durability rather than sound quality. Does someone have experience with both? TIA!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Oct 01, 2017 at 07:16 AM
Fry's Electronics is like the local palengke ng mga electronics and gadgets, magulo at walang systema,

FRYs parang S&R but all electronics  ;D

w/c part in the U.S. are you Sir?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: NickiRasgo on Dec 04, 2017 at 08:23 PM
Hi Sirs! Where to buy locally Yamaha RX-V381 and how much? Thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JeromeA on Dec 04, 2017 at 10:13 PM
Hi Sirs! Where to buy locally Yamaha RX-V381 and how much? Thanks.

na check mo na po ba sir ang rx-v379? ano pinagkaiba nila? kasi sa 379 meron sa mga SM malls.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: NickiRasgo on Dec 04, 2017 at 10:19 PM
na check mo na po ba sir ang rx-v379? ano pinagkaiba nila? kasi sa 379 meron sa mga SM malls.

Hi Sir. This will be my first AV Receiver ever together with my first passive (bookshelves) speakers which is Polk Audio S15. Initially sana eh Onkyo TX-373 but upon reading the net, it seems mas safe if I'll pick Yamaha instead.

Anyways with regards to your question, I don't have an idea. :(
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: JeromeA on Dec 04, 2017 at 10:47 PM
Hi Sir. This will be my first AV Receiver ever together with my first passive (bookshelves) speakers which is Polk Audio S15. Initially sana eh Onkyo TX-373 but upon reading the net, it seems mas safe if I'll pick Yamaha instead.

Anyways with regards to your question, I don't have an idea. :(

i saw already the difference pala eto brader


The RX-V381 is the latest model in that series and has the following differences over the RX-V379:
1.  4 HDCP 2.2 HDMI inputs. (RX-V379 has 1.)
2.  HDR Support.
3.  Dialogue Level Adjustment for proper sound balance with dialogue and vocals.
4.  New GUI(Graphical User Interface) for the On Screen Display. 
Dimensions, Weight and power specifications are the same.

go with the 381. tingin tingin ka lang sa market place natin baka meron ka magustuhan jan. how much ba projected budget mo for your receiver?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: NickiRasgo on Dec 04, 2017 at 11:51 PM
i saw already the difference pala eto brader


The RX-V381 is the latest model in that series and has the following differences over the RX-V379:
1.  4 HDCP 2.2 HDMI inputs. (RX-V379 has 1.)
2.  HDR Support.
3.  Dialogue Level Adjustment for proper sound balance with dialogue and vocals.
4.  New GUI(Graphical User Interface) for the On Screen Display. 
Dimensions, Weight and power specifications are the same.

go with the 381. tingin tingin ka lang sa market place natin baka meron ka magustuhan jan. how much ba projected budget mo for your receiver?

Oks na Sir. Heheh. Luckily I searched sa FB, I talked to someone and advised na inuubos na lang nila yung RX-V381 and will be replaced with RX-V383 with discount pa. :D Actually stretched na ito from around 15K. Won't push na. Heheh.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Dec 05, 2017 at 01:24 AM
FRYs parang S&R but all electronics  ;D

w/c part in the U.S. are you Sir?

Hirap na din sila against online sales. The last time I went ang konti ng bumibili kaya dalawa lang out of 16 counters ang may attendant pero wala pa ding pila.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: azzileur on Dec 05, 2017 at 09:36 AM
Oks na Sir. Heheh. Luckily I searched sa FB, I talked to someone and advised na inuubos na lang nila yung RX-V381 and will be replaced with RX-V383 with discount pa. :D Actually stretched na ito from around 15K. Won't push na. Heheh.

pabulong naman sakin kung saan/sino yan sa fb, naghahanap rin ako...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mhacman on Dec 05, 2017 at 05:51 PM
sir @ruel, visit the Avesco shop near your work-place hehehe

or at any 5th Ave. mall branches.  going these places, their staff are more knowledgeable and has a speaker set up to personally audition rather on SM appliance branch.  just my 2-cents..

goodluck!  go with 2017 series 83 if you have extra moolah's and enjoy another year of firmware/feature upgrade, if you so happen to need them... w/ the series 81, it's bang for the buck now that it's even more discounted
 
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ngek2x on Dec 19, 2017 at 09:28 AM
Ok po ba ipair ang Yamaha + Wharf Diamond 10 series for movies? im planning to upgrade my AVR para 4K ready na :D
im currently using Pioneer 521
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: BoredDoe on Dec 22, 2017 at 03:44 PM
Hi. Can anyone advise saan ang service center for yamaha receivers?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mhacman on Dec 24, 2017 at 01:09 AM
Ok po ba ipair ang Yamaha + Wharf Diamond 10 series for movies? im planning to upgrade my AVR para 4K ready na :D
im currently using Pioneer 521

ok na ok, sir...  i once had a yamaha + wharfe diamond 8 -- used for +5years =)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Jan 20, 2018 at 12:43 AM
Hi mga sirs.. any idea ng price range ng RX-V383?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jun 17, 2018 at 10:30 PM
Matagal na palang di active ang thread, is aventage 870 any good? yung 1070 is around 64k sa Listening Room.

Soliciting feedback as I am looking at either the Aventage 870 or 1070 or Denon 3400H or Marantz 5012

Salamat po.

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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Envy64Ht on Jun 26, 2018 at 11:17 PM
Mga sirs, any news kung meron naba dito yung RX-V385? planning to replace my old onkyo sana.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jun 27, 2018 at 01:20 AM
Mga sirs, any news kung meron naba dito yung RX-V385? planning to replace my old onkyo sana.
Mukhang wala pa ata, nagtatanong din ako ng 685 pero wala idea mga stores kung kelan dating

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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mhacman on Jun 27, 2018 at 08:17 PM
^83 series is 2017 model... Avesco said they'd arrive/launch by Q4 (Ber months)

i'm also waiting for Aventage's ^70 series to arrive...

Mga sirs, any news kung meron naba dito yung RX-V385? planning to replace my old onkyo sana.

pinaka-late dumating ang Yammy dito sa PH.  usually Ber months na...  konting tyaga sa paghihintay, sir =))  ask Avesco.  you may check with them from time to time.

while waiting, check out Onkyo, Denon, Pioneer then Marantz 2018 models na mauuna dumarating =))
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jun 27, 2018 at 08:37 PM
pinaka-late dumating ang Yammy dito sa PH.  usually Ber months na...  konting tyaga sa paghihintay, sir =))  ask Avesco.  you may check with them from time to time.

while waiting, check out Onkyo, Denon, Pioneer then Marantz 2018 models na mauuna dumarating =))
i was waiting for the Aventage 880 pero di rin sure kelan dating.Aventage 870 yata needs pa ng FW upgrade para ma activate ang HDR at Dolby Vision? i am strongly leaning towards Aventage 1070 instead.

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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mhacman on Jun 28, 2018 at 09:04 PM
^ ok naman ang A1070.. just check if that HDR/DV are out of the box or you'll install via FW update.  it should be available by now for 2017 models.

if you're coming from Onkyo (as your PDVD handle implies  ;)), I think it may be comparable with RZ820.  best to audition, per our usual norm -- before deciding which one to buy

advance congratz with your new toy, sir...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: toys4geeks on Jun 29, 2018 at 11:57 PM
kano going price ng Atmos Yammy these days sa pinas?


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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jun 30, 2018 at 04:00 AM
kano going price ng Atmos Yammy these days sa pinas?


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1070 at 74k srp
3070 at 130k srp I think

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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: meat_eater on Jul 22, 2018 at 09:30 AM
hmmm... interested din ako to shifting to yamaha... not sure lang if the ypao (with rsc etc) is a step back from audyssey (xt/xt32)...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: LoBudget on Sep 03, 2018 at 08:12 PM
Looks like October is when the x85 series is hitting the shores.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: LoBudget on Sep 11, 2018 at 06:41 PM
Any users of RX-V681? Have you had any issues with the unit? Planning on getting one instead of the 483 or 583.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: john martin on Oct 20, 2018 at 10:42 AM
I just got an aventage A670 in the US together with a Samsung 4K UHD player.  My cables are Wireworld Chroma 7 from Receiver to TV and Audioquest Pearl from Source to Receiver. Everything was fine until last night when signal was only 480p. So I bypassed the receiver and source was direct to TV, everything was ok at 4k.  So I reset the A670 and it was fixed.  I wanted to watch this morning but signal was 480p again.

I tried troubleshooting but to no avail. I would appreciate any help.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mhacman on Oct 21, 2018 at 12:12 AM
^ might be your Wireworld Chroma 7 from Receiver to TV.  get another AudioQuest Pearl then from avr to tv.

check your Sammy tv settings as well.  it may have something to do with its HDMI setting -- forgot if its about UHD setting being in auto or off.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: sealander on Oct 22, 2018 at 06:51 PM
I have a Yamaha RX-V379 that I bought about 3 years ago. The front display only shows "decoder off". No audio but video is fine. Connected my Himedia player via HDMI cable. I changed my cables to a new one but that didnt fix it. I read from other forums about the same problem but no definite fix. Anyone experienced this?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: turismo1997 on Jan 03, 2019 at 09:05 AM
Hello, I have a aventage a3060 with max output of 1150 watts. Can anyone suggest a good step down transformer. Mine is 110v. Thanks.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Jan 05, 2019 at 08:37 AM
After visiting my parents and siblings last month,
my old system still works there, its powered by a Yamaha RXV657 (bought it from Barrister a few years ago)
I figured its time for an upgrade, wala pa pala itong HDMI whatsoever,
I'll be sending my RX-A1030 and contemplating on either the RX-A3080 or the lower RX-A3070,..
 ^-^

Oh I use a ZEBRA AVR there in the Philippines,...
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: stickfighter on Feb 05, 2019 at 03:44 AM
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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 05, 2019 at 10:18 PM
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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: stickfighter on Feb 05, 2019 at 10:20 PM
congratulations!!!!

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Salamat brader ;)


Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: uvax on Mar 04, 2019 at 07:57 PM
Hi! I'm looking at the Yamaha RX-V485 as a replacement for my ancient HK AVR135. Are there any issues on this generation of Yamaha receivers that I need to be aware of? Thanks!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: stickfighter on Mar 04, 2019 at 11:24 PM
Hi! I'm looking at the Yamaha RX-V485 as a replacement for my ancient HK AVR135. Are there any issues on this generation of Yamaha receivers that I need to be aware of? Thanks!

Nope. No issues on Yamaha. Very well built.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: shuttertrigger on Mar 05, 2019 at 10:15 PM
The BEAST is Home!


Congrats brader!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: stickfighter on Mar 05, 2019 at 10:18 PM
Congrats brader!

Thanks brader ;)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jhelenz on Mar 05, 2019 at 10:41 PM
Hi! I'm looking at the Yamaha RX-V485 as a replacement for my ancient HK AVR135. Are there any issues on this generation of Yamaha receivers that I need to be aware of? Thanks!
i would advise na gamitan nyo po ng avr,i used to have several yamaha receiver na bigla na lang nag aauto shut off (protect mode) after ilang seconds pero nung ginamitan ko ng avr as per advise by some people in this forum hindi na naulit yung auto shut off
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: stickfighter on Mar 06, 2019 at 04:48 AM
i would advise na gamitan nyo po ng avr,i used to have several yamaha receiver na bigla na lang nag aauto shut off (protect mode) after ilang seconds pero nung ginamitan ko ng avr as per advise by some people in this forum hindi na naulit yung auto shut off

When you invest in expensive equipment, its always good to protect it by having an auto voltage regulator and line conditioner. Your gear will be safe and for your peace of mind.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: karipas on Apr 24, 2019 at 04:32 AM
Hi, I used to have an HT setup (Yamaha+Wharfedale+Mirage sub) in 2007 but ditched it in favor of 2 channel system and therefore lost touch re HT scene.

Last week my daughter asked me if I can setup one in my listening space (4m x 7m),  Yesterday walked away 5 min later from our local store with a Yammy RX V685 in tow, I am not crazy on HT but in a way I wanted to optimally set this up with least additional cost.

Which surround format do you guys mostly or prefer or recommends using on a Yammy receiver? Is it possible to run my speakers in conjunction with a soundbar, or is it a good idea to use a soundbar? Any other recommendation from the group? Oh I also have an extra 2ch amp to power the front speakers. I will not be able to set things up right away due to my schedule but would like to know in advance so I will have an idea which path I will take.

Dolby Atmos
Dolby TrueHD
Dolby Digital Plus
Dolby Surround
DTS:X
DTS-HD Master Audio

These are the speakers I will  be using:
F - paradigm studio 40v3
C- Will look fora decent used Paradigm CC
R - Paradigm Titans or PSB (on my garage duty)
Sub - Will look for a used REL, Velodyne or SVS

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mhacman on Apr 24, 2019 at 02:07 PM
^ all the above surround audio formats mentioned are widely available via bluray discs and downloaded .MKV's.

Dolby Digital Plus 5.1ch and Atmos (DD+ joint encode) via Netflix is also available.  In Youtube, I think this is coming soon, as well.

Dolby Surround (same as DTS-Neural:X) is an upmixer software available on your Yammy 685.  this will be utilized if you play any legacy 2ch or 5.1ch audio source. but you are also required to install heights speakers.  so your 685 should be connected to a 7 speakers (with 5.1.2 configuration).

as for preference, just use the audio sound decoder of the AVR (in your case, Yammy 685) depending on your movie's audio source.  this is the most recommended or as per the film creator's intention.  it automatically defaults, anyway -- but you could still override and use a different sound post-processing of your 685. try it and see which one you'd like best.

I myself cannot justify if Atmos is better than DTS:X (or vice versa) as they're encoded in different movies.  I won't be able to compare, really.  so it is depending on each scenes where they placed an audio metadata for heights sound immersion.  and I both find Atmos/DTS:X very good and it surely have bested the previous 5.1/7.1ch audio bed experience we once enjoyed =))

Dolby Digital Surround and DTS Neural:X upmixers are different, though.  they are especially created to maximize your HT set-up with heights speakers when watching legacy 5.1ch (or even 2ch) movies.  It gives a you better sound immersion by providing a "light" touch of sound unto your heights speakers wherein they aren't initially there when the movie soundtrack is created.  Between these 2, I prefer more to use the DTS Neural:X.  I find it more immersive and project better center-stage than Dolby Surround.  It's up to you to observe and make your own preference.

another 2 audio formats are existing (but aren't available on your 685).  Auro 3D by Barco & IMAX Enhanced by IMAX & DTS, Inc.  Auro3D requires a different speaker layout.  It is here prior to Dolby Atmos but didn't get the popularity compared to Atmos & DTS:X.

while IMAX Enhanced can be enjoyed with the same 5.1.2 speaker configuration.  IMAX Enhanced also introduces a better visual experience -- this is other than Dolby Vision.

HTH!
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: karipas on Apr 25, 2019 at 01:41 AM
Thanks mhacman, this helped lot. From what I gather Atmos speaker modules is a compromise if ceiling mount is not an option, since I already have most of what I need I can proceed building a ceiling mount setup; also cheaper in my case than getting new atmos speaker modules.
Thanks again for the explanation of these different surround formats.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: karipas on Aug 22, 2019 at 01:24 AM
Hi @mhacman, coming back to this old post for some updates.
I finally finished my setup, but got more than what I planned for. I realized that not all BD has Atmos but standard in 4K UHD format so  I ended up buying a 4K UHD player  >:D ....and a new TV  >:D . Below is how I built my system.

F - paradigm studio 40v3, powered by a vintage Pioneer SA -8800ii from the front pre-outs and the rest by the Yammy on top
C- Paradigm CC 350
R - TAD TSM 300
Sub - Polk SW 10
Presence Speakers - Leviton (JBL powered) satellite speakers - I highly recommend these speakers,
Mods please delete the link if it is not allowed, I do not have any affiliation but just wanted to share a decently price, good quality, sound acquisition.

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0018N57OM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I have not read the 186 pages manual but I like the Movie Spectacle/ Standard/adventure settingsfor  BD movies. As for CD playing the 7.1 setting works for me. I used YPAO in the initial setup and raised the attenuation of the surround rears and presence speakers by around 2db. The system sounds great I am very happy with the Yamaha, not overly shrill, I could use more slam on the lower end but it is more than adequate actually.

If you have some more tips, let me know.  I do not want to touch anymore settings as I may end up resetting the amp and therefore will have to start from scratch again :D
Here is what I am now; I still need to de-clutter wires and everything plus cleaning those stands from drywall dust. Cheers!

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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mhacman on Aug 26, 2019 at 07:53 PM
^ wow!  happy to know your set-up is all good!  you also have a very nice place for your HT!

once I had a Yamaha AVR.  I likewise used Spectacle (one of Yammy's trademark audio post processing) to add on top with either Dolby or DTS surround sound.  When watching concerts, I recall I may also be using Orchestra as post processing sound format... with the new models baka mas marami pang post-processing options dyan =)

congratz!  hoping you post for more updates with your hobby, sir...  ^-^
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: xb24 on Sep 19, 2019 at 10:38 AM
Mga expert tanung ko lang po kung repairable pa po ba pag defective yung sub-out ng receiver or kailangan ng palitan yung receiver?

Nabili ko po nung 2017 yung Yamaha A3060 pero ngayon ko lang na confirm na defective nga yung akin. Kaya pala sobrang mahina yung subwoofer pag TEST TONE. Kailangan mo idikit tenga mo sa sub para madinig. Gumagana ang sub pero sobrang kulang. Nagpalit ako ng sub para matest pero same lang mahina din. Yung previous entry level yamaha ko wala naman ganitong issue. Marami kasi ako nababasa sa yamaha na may ganito din kaya akala ko normal lang sa yamaha. Same po kami ng problem ng thread starter nito sa 3-page thread sa Avsforum. Kinopy ko lang yung ilang posts:

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/113-subwoofers-bass-transducers/2953064-help-no-real-bass-pb-4000-yamaha-rx-a3070.html
From threadstarter:
"Good News!!! I took the Yamaha receiver to the store and asked to replace it with Denon. They asked for $200 more for receiver which I think is a lower model than the Yamaha. So, I said, let's try out the Yamaha I was returning. He plugged in the subs to the sub out and we couldn't hear anything during Test Tone, however during YPAO Auto Calibration it did make sound. Then, we tried a brand new Yamaha receiver and plugged in the subs and the subs were booming. I just brought home a different Yamaha, same model A3070, and just got the setting done with some basic by tuning YPAO Auto first, then Manual Setup to change them to Small/80Hz and the subs are rambling."

From Ed Mullen of SVS:
We work with literally thousands of customers a year on set-up and troubleshooting. It may surprise some readers to know that a defective sub-out is actually fairly common - we see it probably 3X a week.

There was absolutely something wrong with that AVR - it was barely sending any signal to the subs no matter what we tried with respect to set-up and digital bass management. The smart phone test we had the customer run is a 'sanity check' to make sure the subs were working properly and they immediately shook the room at not even close to full gain.

The customer replaced the defective AVR unit with the same exact model Yamaha and it's working perfectly fine and he's got tons of output from the subwoofers.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: mhacman on Sep 20, 2019 at 11:31 AM
^ sana mapa-ayos mo pa Yamaha A3060 mo -- ganda niyan hi-end!

hoping your local dealer could help point you where you could bring it or check-up/repair =)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: keema on Jan 22, 2020 at 10:31 PM
Hi, worth it pa po ba kumuha ng mga lumang yamaha receivers? like RX-V2400? thanks..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: karipas on Jan 24, 2020 at 06:19 AM
Why not? If price is right, in good condition and you like the sound go for it.
I use to own an old RX-V740 to be honest I feel the same or similar experience with my newer Yammy RX V685 unless you really want to go all out full HT experience.
I am not really an HT guy, but that's my 2 cent.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Onkyo606 on Mar 11, 2020 at 03:12 PM
It seems the Aven age 880 has a poor bass management.Ang hirap to get things right

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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: keema on Apr 09, 2020 at 07:12 AM
Marami akong nakikitang magagandang reviews ng minidsp HD 2x4. Baka makatulong sa bass management. Pero parang kailangan mo din yung mic nila..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Onkyo606 on Apr 09, 2020 at 03:59 PM
Marami akong nakikitang magagandang reviews ng minidsp HD 2x4. Baka makatulong sa bass management. Pero parang kailangan mo din yung mic nila..
Ok na po after reading several suggestions sa AVSForum and making several tweaks I am now reaping success.

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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: keema on Apr 10, 2020 at 03:01 AM
Ok na po after reading several suggestions sa AVSForum and making several tweaks I am now reaping success.
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Pwede pong malaman sir? salamat po..
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Apr 10, 2020 at 07:21 AM
Ok na po after reading several suggestions sa AVSForum and making several tweaks I am now reaping success.


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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: paolorenzo on Mar 25, 2021 at 10:28 AM
Pa-OT po regarding sa Yamaha TSR700..

https://www.reddit.com/r/hometheater/comments/jgu3wq/yamaha_tsr_700_or_tsr_7850/

There's a raised issue about true 4K/120Hz capability of the Yamaha TSR700/RX-V6A.  From my understanding, it's not specific for Yamaha, but all AVR manufacturers who sourced their HDMI chip from Panasonic.  I think even Onkyo and Denon have the same issue?  Napanood ko lang in one AVR YouTube videos.

Sample video: https://youtu.be/Yzlf6jeND-c
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: drhiredgun on Mar 25, 2021 at 11:11 AM
I'm pretty sure Yamaha and other brands will be able to fix this. So far I am lucky with my Yamaha and Onkyo units not being affected by HDMI issues. It might be a lower and older model but the Yamaha tsr-7850 is worth considering :)
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Weng! on Mar 25, 2021 at 02:22 PM
There's a raised issue about true 4K/120Hz capability of the Yamaha TSR700/RX-V6A.  From my understanding, it's not specific for Yamaha, but all AVR manufacturers who sourced their HDMI chip from Panasonic.  I think even Onkyo and Denon have the same issue?  Napanood ko lang in one AVR YouTube videos.

Sample video: https://youtu.be/Yzlf6jeND-c


Read nyo dito.

https://www.avsforum.com/threads/faulty-avr-hdmi-2-1-chips-causing-an-issue-displaying-4k-120-and-8k-60.3171013/ (https://www.avsforum.com/threads/faulty-avr-hdmi-2-1-chips-causing-an-issue-displaying-4k-120-and-8k-60.3171013/)

Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: jeff29jeff2002 on Jun 19, 2021 at 04:56 PM
Brothers, may ask, ano effect ng PRESENCE speaker na meron sa ibang Yamaha receivers?
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Jun 19, 2021 at 05:25 PM
Brothers, may ask, ano effect ng PRESENCE speaker na meron sa ibang Yamaha receivers?

If I'm not mistaken the PRESENCE speakers are the Front Heights.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: egzbuen on Jan 10, 2022 at 03:23 AM
Does anyone have the contact number and address of the authorized service center for Yamaha?

Thanks

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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: egzbuen on Jan 21, 2022 at 02:57 PM
Just an update. Yupangco no longer does receiver service.

I was forwarded to AudioWorld Tech. They say turnaround time is 1month more or less, unless service required is minor, it can be a bit faster.

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Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: ivannn on Dec 06, 2022 at 11:25 AM
Guys any users of Yammy rxv 385? Reviews please. This is on top of my list if ever i decide against repairing the pio 523k. Using yammy 5 speakers and mordaunt short sub.
Title: Re: Yamaha Receivers
Post by: Verbl Kint on Dec 07, 2022 at 12:20 PM
There's a raised issue about true 4K/120Hz capability of the Yamaha TSR700/RX-V6A.  From my understanding, it's not specific for Yamaha, but all AVR manufacturers who sourced their HDMI chip from Panasonic.  I think even Onkyo and Denon have the same issue?  Napanood ko lang in one AVR YouTube videos.

Sample video: https://youtu.be/Yzlf6jeND-c


RX-V6a has been a best seller, apparently.  Out of stock for a couple of months now.