Author Topic: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp (Read 354817 times)

xdaatom206 · « **on:** Jul 20, 2009 at 11:07 AM »

Any info on Sakura Tube Amps in the market

textmailbox · « **Reply #1 on:** Jul 28, 2009 at 01:32 PM »

Quote from: xdaatom206 on Jul 20, 2009 at 11:07 AM

Any info on Sakura Tube Amps in the market

Nakakita ako ng Sakura Tube Amps @200W at around 3.5K lang ang price. Duon sa may tabi ng UNO Sporting Goods sa Raon.

Nagagandahan nga ako kase maliit siya at cute, parang gusto ko rin magkaroon. Di ko lang na-audition kase naka-plastic ang display at dyahi ako dahil di ko pa siya na-research, pero sabi ng may-ari ng store ay mahusay daw tumunog dahil parang diesel daw na habang umiinit lalong clear ang sound output.

Siyanga pala, hybrid ng tube at transistors ang laman, sabi ng may-ari ng store.

Sana next time marinig natin ang tunog, parang naaalala ko tuloy erpat ko na nagpapatugtog ng marching band LPs.

John E. · « **Reply #2 on:** Jul 28, 2009 at 01:40 PM »

Quote from: textmailbox on Jul 28, 2009 at 01:32 PM

Nakakita ako ng Sakura Tube Amps @200W at around 3.5K lang ang price. Duon sa may tabi ng UNO Sporting Goods sa Raon.

Nagagandahan nga ako kase maliit siya at cute, parang gusto ko rin magkaroon. Di ko lang na-audition kase naka-plastic ang display at dyahi ako dahil di ko pa siya na-research, pero sabi ng may-ari ng store ay mahusay daw tumunog dahil parang diesel daw na habang umiinit lalong clear ang sound output.

Siyanga pala, hybrid ng tube at transistors ang laman, sabi ng may-ari ng store.

Sana next time marinig natin ang tunog, parang naaalala ko tuloy erpat ko na nagpapatugtog ng marching band LPs.

wow 200w na tube amp! this i got to see! post pics naman yung mga nakakita.

thanks!

jerix · « **Reply #3 on:** Jul 29, 2009 at 11:56 AM »

Quote from: JohnE. on Jul 28, 2009 at 01:40 PM

wow 200w na tube amp! this i got to see! post pics naman yung mga nakakita.

thanks!

Yes me too nagka interes tuloy ako to have a tube amp.

textmailbox · « **Reply #4 on:** Aug 26, 2009 at 08:25 AM »

Eto na yung picture ng Sakura AV-200 Amp @100wpc sa Raon.

Front Panel:
Input Selector
Power Button
Volume Control

Side Panel:
Bass Control
Treble Control

Magkaka-idea na naman ang Konzert na magkaroon ng ganito.

John E. · « **Reply #5 on:** Aug 26, 2009 at 09:30 AM »

Quote from: textmailbox on Aug 26, 2009 at 08:25 AM

Eto na yung picture ng Sakura AV-200 Amp @100wpc sa Raon.

Front Panel:
Input Selector
Power Button
Volume Control

Side Panel:
Bass Control
Treble Control

Magkaka-idea na naman ang Konzert na magkaroon ng ganito.

nice

i also saw that being sold at eBay PH.

Schrodinger's cat · « **Reply #6 on:** Aug 26, 2009 at 03:41 PM »

Yung palang neighbor nung pinsan ko sa Makati may Sakura tube amp na ganyan. Nabili daw niya sa isang store sa Greenhills (corek si bro textmailbox dun sa price nya), kaya lang nagkaroon ng problem kasi after 2 hours of playing pa lang eh biglang nawala yung sound. May power, pero no sound. walang waranty daw eh (verbal lang, hehe). Medyo natatanggal din yung mga plastic handles nung binding posts. Yung volume knob naman, nagsisikip pagdating sa 12 oclock, parang nai-istuck. Bago niya binalik sa shop eto yung pics:

Since meron ng pics nung front si textmailbox, eto na lang yung likod:

Instead na 'Sakura' nakalagay, eh 'Sakua'

. Tapos nakalagay 'POWER OUTPUT(PMPO)......MAX.200W+200W' (hindi pala RMS):

Specs sa manual (nakasulat din pmpo):

Sabi dun sa store eh mga 2 weeks daw bago mapalitan.

jerix · « **Reply #7 on:** Aug 26, 2009 at 03:46 PM »

PMPO not RMS so 20 watts lang ang RMS nya?

Schrodinger's cat · « **Reply #8 on:** Aug 26, 2009 at 03:50 PM »

Quote from: jerix on Aug 26, 2009 at 03:46 PM

PMPO not RMS so 20 watts lang ang RMS nya?

Pano ba mag-convert? Ewan ko nga eh, wala yatang definite formula to convert PMPO to RMS, let's see what the experts say.

jerix · « **Reply #9 on:** Aug 26, 2009 at 03:53 PM »

M not an expert pero what i usually hear, DIBAY-DIBAY 10 lang daw to get the RMS.

Schrodinger's cat · « **Reply #10 on:** Aug 26, 2009 at 03:58 PM »

Ganun? maganda at simpleng formula yan ah

textmailbox · « **Reply #11 on:** Aug 26, 2009 at 05:51 PM »

SAKUA kase yata yun at hindi SAKURA.

May warranty naman sila sa Raon pag binili ang item.

At sa opinyon ko lang, kailangan talaga ng ingat kapag vacuum tube ang amplifier.

Dapat i-match ang speaker impedance at controlled environment, di siya talaga pwede gamitin kung saan-saan dahil fragile ang vacuum tube.

Nuong araw na panahon ng mga olds ko, di pwede basta hawakan ang vacuum tube at madaling masisira ang amplifier.

Ewan ko ngayon...

Schrodinger's cat · « **Reply #12 on:** Aug 26, 2009 at 06:45 PM »

Quote from: textmailbox on Aug 26, 2009 at 05:51 PM

SAKUA kase yata yun at hindi SAKURA.

<snip>

He he! It's the same unit bro, Sakura yung nakalagay sa box at sa front ng unit, pero Sakua yung nasa likod

So either na misspell ng Sakura yung name nila sa likod, or counterfeit Sakura ito.

Na-tempt lang daw yung bumili kasi mura nga, even if signs point to it as most probably an imitation, a Sakura imitation at that (not sure ito ha).

At any rate, caveat emptor ...

Stagea · « **Reply #13 on:** Aug 27, 2009 at 01:30 AM »

Iba iba ang PMPO at max ratings eh, depende sa marketing group I guess.

Interesting siya because of the entry price, wala pang kalahati ng presyo ng Dared MP-5. Mas mura pa sa mga T-Amps.

textmailbox · « **Reply #14 on:** Aug 27, 2009 at 09:08 AM »

Quote from: ubunterror on Aug 26, 2009 at 06:45 PM

He he! It's the same unit bro, Sakura yung nakalagay sa box at sa front ng unit, pero Sakua yung nasa likod So either na misspell ng Sakura yung name nila sa likod, or counterfeit Sakura ito.

Na-tempt lang daw yung bumili kasi mura nga, even if signs point to it as most probably an imitation, a Sakura imitation at that (not sure ito ha).

At any rate, caveat emptor ...

Hmmm... baka nga imitation na Sakura amp yan. Kaya nga siguro mura.

textmailbox · « **Reply #15 on:** Sep 14, 2009 at 06:35 PM »

Elow, Guys.

Nag set-up ako ng KSS-10 speaker para sa Sakura 502K. Guess what? Maganda ang tunog, kahit hi-fi lang okay na okay ang kantahan. May extra bass power na rin naman ang Sakura 502K, kahit wala pa akong subwoofer ayos lang.

Take note: Karamihan sa mga videoke machine ngayon sa Raon Sakura 502K na ang ginagamit. Ayaw na ng mga customer magpalagay ng 502A marami daw kaseng peke lalo sa Raon.

jerix · « **Reply #16 on:** Sep 17, 2009 at 09:26 AM »

Tunog lata ba ang peke na sakura amp? Napakamura ang Sakura -- bakit ba nila ito pinepeke?

textmailbox · « **Reply #17 on:** Sep 18, 2009 at 09:37 AM »

Eto yung sinasabi nilang peke, tube amp na wala naman talaga sa product catalog ng Crown at Sakura.

So far, puro Sakura 502K integrated amp ngayon ang mga gamit sa build-up ng karaoke machines sa Raon.

rnb_zounds · « **Reply #18 on:** Sep 18, 2009 at 11:30 AM »

Kamusta naman kaya tunog niyan... di ba ma"SAKUA"?

Pangalan nalang kokopyahin, mali pa.

oweidah · « **Reply #19 on:** Sep 18, 2009 at 11:45 AM »

Quote from: rnb_zounds on Sep 18, 2009 at 11:30 AM

Kamusta naman kaya tunog niyan... di ba ma"SAKUA"? Pangalan nalang kokopyahin, mali pa.

hi ryan! oonga "whats in a name? a rose by any other name would smell as sweet"; basta ok ang tunog ayos!

uso naman ang gaya-gaya ng mga named brands- sony/sonny;sunny

JojoD818 · « **Reply #20 on:** Sep 22, 2009 at 12:05 PM »

Quote from: TonyT on Sep 18, 2009 at 03:45 PM

panalo ka rito, i can not DIY them for the price....

yung tube amp, ipa mod mo kay jojod and you will have a winner also...

korek tony... took a peek before on a 502a i think and i can't explain how they do it but they're doing it. the discrete amp was simplified with the absence of current mirrors, cascodes, etc. though the published output power is so way beyond the actual power but hey, for 3k+ panalo!

oweidah · « **Reply #21 on:** Sep 23, 2009 at 05:03 PM »

sakura av200tube amp
4.1k initial price may tawad pa daw

front panel> selector . power . volume
side > bass & treble

apat na tubes ang gamit. dalawa sa harap parang 6922/6dj8, yung 2 sa likod na mas malaki. 4pins lang 5z4p at 787j ang marka.

ganda ng finishing. not tested. inabot ako ng ulan eh

eto kaya panapat sa dared mp5? why 200w? eh ang gaan nung binuhat ko!

JojoD818 · « **Reply #22 on:** Sep 23, 2009 at 05:48 PM »

Quote from: textmailbox on Aug 26, 2009 at 08:25 AM

Eto na yung picture ng Sakura AV-200 Amp @100wpc sa Raon.

Front Panel:
Input Selector
Power Button
Volume Control

Side Panel:
Bass Control
Treble Control

Magkaka-idea na naman ang Konzert na magkaroon ng ganito.

There should be a schematic with the manual, pa post naman para makita namin ni Tony...

Di ko kasi alam kung saan kukunin yun 200W...

markcrenz · « **Reply #23 on:** Sep 23, 2009 at 06:46 PM »

Quote from: JojoD818 on Sep 23, 2009 at 05:48 PM

There should be a schematic with the manual, pa post naman para makita namin ni Tony...

Di ko kasi alam kung saan kukunin yun 200W...

SAKURA --> SAKUA?
200W --> 20W?

EDITED to highlight important mod:

Quote from: tony on Mar 27, 2017 at 07:01 AM

replace the input caps of the power amp board with a film cap type...
the power amp input ecap could be leaky, a 1ufd film cap will do nicely,......

while you are at it, parallel the miniature tube unused pins, 1//6; 2//8; 3//8.....
less ecap to worry about.

JojoD818 · « **Reply #24 on:** Sep 23, 2009 at 09:39 PM »

hindi naman siya power consumption kasi power output nakasulat... baka hybrid siguro yan?

pero what bothers me is the Frequency Response spec... +/-2dB? nakakalito naman yan...

frootloops · « **Reply #25 on:** Sep 23, 2009 at 09:45 PM »

The famous PMPO!

JojoD818 · « **Reply #26 on:** Sep 23, 2009 at 10:00 PM »

Quote from: frootloops on Sep 23, 2009 at 09:45 PM

The famous PMPO!

Unfortunately...

oweidah · « **Reply #27 on:** Sep 24, 2009 at 07:28 AM »

cant find any info/schematic on sakura or sakua av-200t sa internet

nung binuhat ko, parang wala transformer sa gaan!
kahoy pa ang ginamit na material as cage nung supposedly transformer. may fan pa!

my guess> hybrid
(hindi naman kaya tripath chip

)

5z4p 4pin fullwave rectifier tube > http://us.100y.com.tw/pdf_file/5Z4P.pdf
http://www.tubeampdoctor.com/english-store/5Z4P-Tube-Full-Wave-Rectifier-pid-1320.htm
its chinese tube and one net info sez can be substituted w/5z4g

Quote from: ubunterror on Aug 26, 2009 at 03:41 PM

Since meron ng pics nung front si textmailbox, eto na lang yung likod:

JojoD818 · « **Reply #28 on:** Sep 24, 2009 at 02:49 PM »

sana may nakabili na patingin naman more pics

kung pwede sama na pics yun loob...

JojoD818 · « **Reply #29 on:** Sep 25, 2009 at 08:59 AM »

Quote from: TonyT on Sep 25, 2009 at 03:59 AM

smps na nga yan, yung rectifier pang showmanship lang, para masabi na de-tubo.....

langy, parang showbiz ah...

meron cover sa ibabaw ng amp baka nandun yun tranny...