Author Topic: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC (Read 230189 times)

ninjababez® · « **Reply #1260 on:** Sep 18, 2017 at 03:21 AM »

https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/7th-gen-a8-9600-apu 3.3k @ pcx
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/A320M-PRO-VH-PLUS/Gallery#lg=1&slide=4 3.6k @ pcx
single 8gb ram 4.1k

Quote from: Stagea on Sep 18, 2017 at 02:45 AM

That takes you to an up-to-date socket, giving you a wide upgrade path. Actual performance wouldn't be much different from the A8-7600. Expect it to handle most bitrates of H.265 and VP9 upto FHD via software decoding. Common older formats can be handled in hardware.

If you're planning to get a dedicated GPU, might as well wait it out and get it together with a Ryzen 3 1200 or equivalent.

bali master intayin ko bago mag buo? or ok na yun posted ko sa taas since may R7 yung a8 9600; tapos sabay ko yun GPU and ryzen (incase mag decide to upgrade?) tama ba?

ninjababez® · « **Reply #1261 on:** Sep 18, 2017 at 02:20 PM »

Master umabot almost 20k sa pcoptions
Next time na ryzen, pag nag mura lol

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ninjababez® · « **Reply #1262 on:** Sep 18, 2017 at 05:17 PM »

Pucha kamalas ...
Sino may ps2 keyboard sa pasig area? Ayaw mag install windows 7

ninjababez® · « **Reply #1263 on:** Sep 18, 2017 at 10:18 PM »

Bakit pag naka ON ang gpu scaling 1080p max
Pag OFF 4k reso, pag off pa ito eh yun processor graphics ginagamit? Tama ba intindi ko?

Thanks

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Stagea · « **Reply #1264 on:** Sep 19, 2017 at 08:12 AM »

Quote from: ninjababez® on Sep 18, 2017 at 05:17 PM

Pucha kamalas ...
Sino may ps2 keyboard sa pasig area? Ayaw mag install windows 7

You're not supposed to run Windows 7 on Bristol Ridge. It will work, but Microsoft does not support this configuration. The same is true for Kaby Lake and Coffee Lake.

Quote from: ninjababez® on Sep 18, 2017 at 10:18 PM

Bakit pag naka ON ang gpu scaling 1080p max
Pag OFF 4k reso, pag off pa ito eh yun processor graphics ginagamit? Tama ba intindi ko?

Off means it's your screen's video processor that does the scaling. Unless the TV has a poor processor (or if you want the GPU to stretch videos to fill the screen), I suggest keeping it off.

ninjababez® · « **Reply #1265 on:** Sep 19, 2017 at 08:36 AM »

Master di ba fully utilized ang processor pag win7 lang ang gamit?

Stagea · « **Reply #1266 on:** Sep 19, 2017 at 10:30 AM »

Quote from: ninjababez® on Sep 19, 2017 at 08:36 AM

Master di ba fully utilized ang processor pag win7 lang ang gamit?

It's not utilization, it's security. Microsoft does not patch old operating systems on new machines.

GIJoe · « **Reply #1267 on:** Sep 19, 2017 at 10:44 AM »

jammy ano TV mo?

Arulco · « **Reply #1268 on:** Sep 19, 2017 at 12:16 PM »

Windows 10 Fall Creator's update is supposed to improve HDR support.

ninjababez® · « **Reply #1269 on:** Sep 19, 2017 at 01:04 PM »

Quote from: GIJoe on Sep 19, 2017 at 10:44 AM

jammy ano TV mo?

55" lg, 6150 yata iirc; bakit bro, ok ba scaling?

ninjababez® · « **Reply #1270 on:** Sep 19, 2017 at 01:05 PM »

Quote from: Stagea on Sep 19, 2017 at 10:30 AM

It's not utilization, it's security. Microsoft does not patch old operating systems on new machines.

ok lang master htpc lang and strictly hdme.eu browsing lang hehehe

GIJoe · « **Reply #1271 on:** Sep 19, 2017 at 01:27 PM »

Quote from: ninjababez® on Sep 19, 2017 at 01:04 PM

55" lg, 6150 yata iirc; bakit bro, ok ba scaling?

same tayo TV puwede mo ba itry yung lucy 2160p hdr compare ko lang output sa zidoo NMT

Stagea · « **Reply #1272 on:** Sep 19, 2017 at 03:20 PM »

Quote from: GIJoe on Sep 19, 2017 at 01:27 PM

same tayo TV puwede mo ba itry yung lucy 2160p hdr compare ko lang output sa zidoo NMT

I don't know how well he'd be able to output HDR content, especially 60Hz HDR10 material. I don't think the software decode is fast enough, and he will be limited by HDMI 1.4b.

GIJoe · « **Reply #1273 on:** Sep 19, 2017 at 03:46 PM »

Quote from: Stagea on Sep 19, 2017 at 03:20 PM

I don't know how well he'd be able to output HDR content, especially 60Hz HDR10 material. I don't think the software decode is fast enough, and he will be limited by HDMI 1.4b.

Ah so di pa capable ng HDR10 yung HTPC niya? so walapa din HTPC na puwde ng HDR10?

Stagea · « **Reply #1274 on:** Sep 19, 2017 at 03:52 PM »

Quote from: GIJoe on Sep 19, 2017 at 03:46 PM

Ah so di pa capable ng HDR10 yung HTPC niya? so walapa din HTPC na puwde ng HDR10?

Madami naman, just with different components.

GIJoe · « **Reply #1275 on:** Sep 19, 2017 at 04:06 PM »

Quote from: Stagea on Sep 19, 2017 at 03:52 PM

Madami naman, just with different components.

ah ok so yung kay jammy di pa hdr10 60hz capable? im thinking of setting up a HTPC kasi. di ba may discrete video card na yung setup na hindi pa din ba HDR10 yun?

Stagea · « **Reply #1276 on:** Sep 19, 2017 at 11:04 PM »

Quote from: GIJoe on Sep 19, 2017 at 04:06 PM

ah ok so yung kay jammy di pa hdr10 60hz capable? im thinking of setting up a HTPC kasi. di ba may discrete video card na yung setup na hindi pa din ba HDR10 yun?

He's running integrated graphics on a board with HDMI 1.4b. While there are HDMI 1.4b ports that support UHD HDR, those that do normally run at 30p or less (even with chroma subsampling). HDCP 2.2 support would also be lacking (limiting supported materials with the few video players that do support the mode).

ninjababez® · « **Reply #1277 on:** Sep 20, 2017 at 05:03 AM »

Quote from: GIJoe on Sep 19, 2017 at 01:27 PM

same tayo TV puwede mo ba itry yung lucy 2160p hdr compare ko lang output sa zidoo NMT

pasyal ka dito bro at paglaruan mo nalang pc ko lol

GIJoe · « **Reply #1278 on:** Sep 20, 2017 at 08:30 AM »

Quote from: ninjababez® on Sep 20, 2017 at 05:03 AM

pasyal ka dito bro at paglaruan mo nalang pc ko lol

san ka ba nakatira ngayon?

ninjababez® · « **Reply #1279 on:** Sep 20, 2017 at 06:35 PM »

Quote from: GIJoe on Sep 20, 2017 at 08:30 AM

san ka ba nakatira ngayon?

dun parin bro
Wed thur off ko

rulesmeister · « **Reply #1280 on:** Sep 21, 2017 at 01:01 PM »

Guys, may media player na ba supported ung 4k HDR? Last time I checked, 4k pa lang supported.

Ginagawa ko right now is play the movie directly sa TV via USB. Nadedetect ng TV na HDR sya and auto switch nya picture settings to "HDR brightness". Parang lumalabas I'm better off with the TV as media player mas maganda pa picture quality since displayed ung movie in 4k HDR compared sa PC na 4k SDR lang.. Btw Im using Kodi 17.4 on the PC.

Btw, the movie is encoded in HEVC HDR10

Stagea · « **Reply #1281 on:** Sep 21, 2017 at 01:44 PM »

Quote from: rulesmeister on Sep 21, 2017 at 01:01 PM

Guys, may media player na ba supported ung 4k HDR? Last time I checked, 4k pa lang supported.

Ginagawa ko right now is play the movie directly sa TV via USB. Nadedetect ng TV na HDR sya and auto switch nya picture settings to "HDR brightness". Parang lumalabas I'm better off with the TV as media player mas maganda pa picture quality since displayed ung movie in 4k HDR compared sa PC na 4k SDR lang.. Btw Im using Kodi 17.4 on the PC.

Btw, the movie is encoded in HEVC HDR10

You can set your PC's video renderer (say MadVR) to pass-through HDR information to the display. In most cases this would only work in full screen.

PowerDVD 17 supports HDR when using current generation Intel hardware. Microsoft Movies & TV is expected to get HDR support soon too.

rulesmeister · « **Reply #1282 on:** Sep 21, 2017 at 02:44 PM »

^hehehe thanks! I'll switched back to Potplayer or MPC-HC with MADVR..
Btw, if Im using AMD cpu & NVIDIA gpu, hindi magrerender ng HDR10 ung PowerDVD17?

Stagea · « **Reply #1283 on:** Sep 21, 2017 at 09:27 PM »

Quote from: rulesmeister on Sep 21, 2017 at 02:44 PM

^hehehe thanks! I'll switched back to Potplayer or MPC-HC with MADVR..
Btw, if Im using AMD cpu & NVIDIA gpu, hindi magrerender ng HDR10 ung PowerDVD17?

PowerDVD 17 with Pascal HDR compatibility is currently broken. Video flickering / blacking out can happen depending on the material. Cyberlink officially supports only Intel Kaby Lake graphics for HDR at this point. Nvidia support mentioned that they are working with Cyberlink to possibly support Nvidia GPUs in the future.

Some are reporting that Movies and TV has working HDR support now. This can be an alternative for you.

rulesmeister · « **Reply #1284 on:** Sep 21, 2017 at 11:23 PM »

^movies & tv not supporting HDR on my Windows 10 pro right now. Will try MadVR sa weekend..

Btw, I tried using my Minix U9-H with latest firmware upgrade "FW006", HDR on Kodi 17.4 is supported if Android ung OS.. Ang layo difference ng PQ if compared sa HTPC.. Ito ung rankings in my opinion (given HTPC fanboy ako since 2010)

1. Minix U9 2. LG 4k HDR TV built in player 3. HTPC

Stagea · « **Reply #1285 on:** Sep 22, 2017 at 03:46 AM »

Quote from: rulesmeister on Sep 21, 2017 at 11:23 PM

^movies & tv not supporting HDR on my Windows 10 pro right now. Will try MadVR sa weekend..

Btw, I tried using my Minix U9-H with latest firmware upgrade "FW006", HDR on Kodi 17.4 is supported if Android ung OS.. Ang layo difference ng PQ if compared sa HTPC.. Ito ung rankings in my opinion (given HTPC fanboy ako since 2010)

1. Minix U9 2. LG 4k HDR TV built in player 3. HTPC

I believe Microsoft is fixing Movies & TV HDR functionality with different hardware types. They started by enabling HDR in it for Xbox One S users last year. They sell online content for use with this application, afterall. This fall's Creator's Update is expected to bring in a lot of those fixes.

Aside from Cyberlink, Sony is another provider that only supports Kaby Lake for PC HDR access of UltraViolet media.

rulesmeister · « **Reply #1286 on:** Sep 23, 2017 at 01:22 PM »

^Thanks, one last question, bakit kaya hanggang 8 bps lang color depth nito? I couldn't enable full rgb or ycbcr444. Done updsting drivers

Stagea · « **Reply #1287 on:** Sep 24, 2017 at 01:13 AM »

Quote from: rulesmeister on Sep 23, 2017 at 01:22 PM

^Thanks, one last question, bakit kaya hanggang 8 bps lang color depth nito? I couldn't enable full rgb or ycbcr444. Done updsting drivers

That'd depend on:
1. What resolution you're running (if a higher bit depth is possible with HDMI 2.0 at that resolution)
2. If the Nvidia driver gets to read the EDID from the display correctly
3. If the Chroma Compression, Resolution and Bit Depth combination is supported by Nvidia.

TV support has actually worsened over the past year, imo. Nvidia locks out YCbCr422 and 420 on many displays, preventing the use of high bit depths at higher resolutions. It often also skips the 10bpc option, offering only 12bpc and 8bpc instead.

rulesmeister · « **Reply #1288 on:** Sep 25, 2017 at 01:26 PM »

Quote from: Stagea on Sep 24, 2017 at 01:13 AM

TV support has actually worsened over the past year, imo. Nvidia locks out YCbCr422 and 420 on many displays, preventing the use of high bit depths at higher resolutions. It often also skips the 10bpc option, offering only 12bpc and 8bpc instead.

What NVIDIA did is kill the HTPC market. I dont get the logic why NVIDIA GPU is locked at "limited range", 8 bpc, & YCbCr422 or 420. Eh capable naman ung display? ganun cya at 4k and even on 1080p. If Im using the NVIDIA GPU on my BenQ W1070, tatalunin pa ng AMD HD6570 ung NVIDIA GTX1050ti in terms of PQ kasi ung 6570 naka "full range", Full RGB & 10 bpc..

Just watched "Life of Pi" in 4k HDR using Minix U9 on Kodi V17.4, walang sinabi ung HTPC sa PQ. Mahal na nga ung HTPC, limited pa ung capability (sa display settings), wala pang remote... Only advantage nalang ng HTPC is capacity (8HDD's including 1 SSD).

Stagea · « **Reply #1289 on:** Sep 25, 2017 at 10:20 PM »

Quote from: rulesmeister on Sep 25, 2017 at 01:26 PM

What NVIDIA did is kill the HTPC market. I dont get the logic why NVIDIA GPU is locked at "limited range", 8 bpc, & YCbCr422 or 420. Eh capable naman ung display? ganun cya at 4k and even on 1080p. If Im using the NVIDIA GPU on my BenQ W1070, tatalunin pa ng AMD HD6570 ung NVIDIA GTX1050ti in terms of PQ kasi ung 6570 naka "full range", Full RGB & 10 bpc..

Just watched "Life of Pi" in 4k HDR using Minix U9 on Kodi V17.4, walang sinabi ung HTPC sa PQ. Mahal na nga ung HTPC, limited pa ung capability (sa display settings), wala pang remote... Only advantage nalang ng HTPC is capacity (8HDD's including 1 SSD).

You can try manually editing the EDID information to allow misdetected or disabled display modes. It sometimes works.