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Customs: (insert invective here)
« on: Feb 23, 2010 at 02:12 PM »
After more than a year of ordering DVDs from online stores (most frequently from e-bay), I encountered yesterday the most shocking surprise of my life. 

I ordered four DVDs from an online store in the UK (Chaplin Mutuals volumes 1 and 2, Chaplin Essanays volumes 1 and 2) for GBP 49.72.  Add the shipping costs to that, and it would come out at GBP 61.50.  Yesterday, I got a notice from the Post Office informing me that the package has arrived.  When my staff got there, he was presented with a tentative assessment sheet detailing the numerous fees I had to pay.  the breakdown is as follows:

At 10% rate of duty, and at P72.11 = GBP 1, the Total Customs Duty amounted to 443.47.

Add to this the Import Processing Fee (P250.00), Customs Documentary Stamp (P250.00), and BIR Documentary Stamp (P15.00), the Total Taxable Cost became P5,393.23. 

Multiply the Total Taxable Cost by the EVAT Rate of 12%, and you would have to add 647.18 to the Total Taxable Cost.

Then, it shows the summary of the amount I had to pay:

Customs Duty: P443.00
Expanded VAT: P647.00
Import Processing Fee: P250.00
Customs Stamp:  P250.00
BIR Docs Stamp:  P15.00

All this brought the total to P1,605.00!

This is more than one-third of the total amount I had to pay for the items plus shipping!

I was really at a loss on how this came about.  Shameful as it sounds, I just gave the Customs officer half of that amount just so my package would be released.

Somewhere, somehow, there must be something fishy about this.  I wasn't even going to use this for commercial purposes.  It is really discouraging when the amount of taxes we are burdened with is not commensurate with the value of the product we purchased.

Any of you have the same experience?

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Re: Customs: (insert invective here)
« Reply #1 on: Feb 23, 2010 at 02:26 PM »
It happened to me once, in Caloocan Post office, almost the same assessment ,feeling ko niloloko ako that time . What I did was I pretended knowing someone in the City Hall that I would ask if what the Post Office guy doing is okay. He immediately said...pangmiryenda na lang P 200. ???. I gave him 150.

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Re: Customs: (insert invective here)
« Reply #2 on: Feb 23, 2010 at 02:37 PM »
Yun nga eh.  Sa MalacaƱang na nga ako nagtatrabaho, ganon pa rin ang ginawa sa akin.  Ayaw pumayag sa P400. 

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« Reply #3 on: Feb 23, 2010 at 02:41 PM »
naku ganyang ganyan din dito sa pasay post office, gumagawa sila ng sarili nilang kwenta pero sa totoo lang sa bulsa naman nila napupunta un  ::)  >:(
kada oorder ako sa play-asia dati kahit less than $50 lang kung ano anong tax ang sinasabi nila
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« Reply #4 on: Feb 23, 2010 at 03:30 PM »
naku ganyang ganyan din dito sa pasay post office, gumagawa sila ng sarili nilang kwenta pero sa totoo lang sa bulsa naman nila napupunta un  ::)  >:(
kada oorder ako sa play-asia dati kahit less than $50 lang kung ano anong tax ang sinasabi nila


ang masakit pa dun. yung fedex or yung ems.. sige sige lang ng bayad.. tapos sayo i rereimburse, as if go signal ka agad..


buti nalang sa qc di pa ganun ka tindi ang computation. atsaka sa manila rin.. i ordered 10 caps from Uk.. parang.... 50 pesos lang yung tax.

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« Reply #5 on: Feb 23, 2010 at 03:31 PM »
Yun nga eh.  Sa MalacaƱang na nga ako nagtatrabaho, ganon pa rin ang ginawa sa akin.  Ayaw pumayag sa P400. 

nagpakilala ba kayong taga malacanang?? usually they pay courtesy to fellow govt employees a..

or ganun na sila ka garapal, talo talo na lahat?

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« Reply #6 on: Feb 23, 2010 at 03:49 PM »
nagpakilala ba kayong taga malacanang?? usually they pay courtesy to fellow govt employees a..

or ganun na sila ka garapal, talo talo na lahat?

mahigpit siguro pangangailangan  ::)
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Re: Customs: (insert invective here)
« Reply #7 on: Feb 23, 2010 at 03:55 PM »
nagpakilala ba kayong taga malacanang?? usually they pay courtesy to fellow govt employees a..

or ganun na sila ka garapal, talo talo na lahat?

Feeling ko, ganoon na silang ka-garapal.  Mabuti sana kung official invoice ang pinakita sa iyo.  At least alam mong dapat lang.  Pero tentative assessment eh.  Tapos, puwede pang pakiusapan.  So, ano ibig sabihin nun?

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« Reply #8 on: Feb 23, 2010 at 03:56 PM »
Feeling ko, ganoon na silang ka-garapal.  Mabuti sana kung official invoice ang pinakita sa iyo.  At least alam mong dapat lang.  Pero tentative assessment eh.  Tapos, puwede pang pakiusapan.  So, ano ibig sabihin nun?

ganyan din sir samin sa pasay, ung computation parang sa scratch paper lang ginawa  ::)
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Re: Customs: (insert invective here)
« Reply #9 on: Feb 23, 2010 at 04:03 PM »
OK lang sanang magbayad ng tax eh.  Pero tingin ko kasi, sobra-sobra ang sinisingil nila.  Para namang gagamitin ko for commercial purposes yung binibili ko, eh for personal consumption lang naman.  Kung more than one-third ng total retail price plus shipping, or almost half of the retail price yung tax, eh kailangang mag-isip-isip muna.  Siguro, meron dapat mag-explain sa atin nito, someone na from BOC or something.  Feeling ko, may mali talaga.

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« Reply #10 on: Feb 24, 2010 at 12:08 AM »
lumalapit na kasi election  ;D

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Re: Customs: (insert invective here)
« Reply #11 on: Feb 24, 2010 at 06:43 AM »
Usually kasi pag less than $50 hindi nila tax. So kailangan mo email yun seller na under value yun item or lagay niya gift. Ang alam ko pag babayaran mo yun tax na compute sayo bigyan ka na nila ng resibo.
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« Reply #12 on: Feb 24, 2010 at 07:44 AM »
Usually kasi pag less than $50 hindi nila tax. So kailangan mo email yun seller na under value yun item or lagay niya gift. Ang alam ko pag babayaran mo yun tax na compute sayo bigyan ka na nila ng resibo.
Beware sa gift label.  I once had a package from JSDVD that was labeled as gift even though I didn't tell them so, it's bargain 999 NT$, less than 2,000 pesos.  But it was like 8 discs in individual amaray.  EMS ang courier.  Post Office opted to calculate it per disc with estimated value.  Ayaw maniwala sa printed invoice and I paid someting like 2,000 din for duties and fees.  Ayaw din ma-paareglo then kasi may hidden cam daw sa kanila, baka mawalan ng trabaho...
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« Reply #13 on: Feb 24, 2010 at 08:11 AM »
Beware sa gift label.  I once had a package from JSDVD that was labeled as gift even though I didn't tell them so, it's bargain 999 NT$, less than 2,000 pesos.  But it was like 8 discs in individual amaray.  EMS ang courier.  Post Office opted to calculate it per disc with estimated value.  Ayaw maniwala sa printed invoice and I paid someting like 2,000 din for duties and fees.  Ayaw din ma-paareglo then kasi may hidden cam daw sa kanila, baka mawalan ng trabaho...


usually what i do is ask them to label it as "product samples" or "returned item" or "for repair".. so far lusot (bihira lang ako magpa ship sa local post office)... pero naisip ko lang.. kung talagang uhaw sila.. walang pipiliin yan, mapa sample, or returned item or damaged item,.. i tatax parin yan..

only in the philippines!

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« Reply #14 on: Feb 24, 2010 at 08:16 AM »
dati me binili ako sa play-asia akala ko makakatipid ako, in the end daig ko pa bumili sa datablitz kasi ang laki ng "tax" sa customs ng post office  :o
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« Reply #15 on: Feb 24, 2010 at 08:42 AM »

usually what i do is ask them to label it as "product samples" or "returned item" or "for repair".. so far lusot (bihira lang ako magpa ship sa local post office)... pero naisip ko lang.. kung talagang uhaw sila.. walang pipiliin yan, mapa sample, or returned item or damaged item,.. i tatax parin yan..

only in the philippines!
Meron ako order sa amazon uk nawala tapos nag padala ulit ng  kapalit na item so wala ng value  naka sulat na tax pa din ayaw maniwala na kapalit lang yun pero nakuha sa P150... ;D kahit yun sender pareho ng surname mo meron pa din tax sa post office. Yun "gift label" ;D baka sakali makalusot lang...
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« Reply #16 on: Feb 24, 2010 at 11:20 AM »
Nung panahon ni Pres. FVR,
halos lahat ng naorder ko sa amazon US,
pagpasok dito ay wala na ako binabayaran,
pero ng maupo na si Erap, nasaktan na ako sa taxes and duties,
iilang piraso lang na DVD ay mas malaki pa ang taxes na binabayaran ko,
since then hindi na ako nagpapadala dito sa atin...

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« Reply #17 on: Feb 24, 2010 at 11:26 AM »
Nung panahon ni Pres. FVR,
halos lahat ng naorder ko sa amazon US,
pagpasok dito ay wala na ako binabayaran,
pero ng maupo na si Erap, nasaktan na ako sa taxes and duties,
iilang piraso lang na DVD ay mas malaki pa ang taxes na binabayaran ko,
since then hindi na ako nagpapadala dito sa atin...

eh nung naupo na si GMA sir? ;D
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« Reply #18 on: Feb 24, 2010 at 11:43 AM »
eh nung naupo na si GMA sir? ;D

No comment,... HAHAHAHAHA

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« Reply #19 on: Feb 24, 2010 at 11:55 AM »
Beware sa gift label.  I once had a package from JSDVD that was labeled as gift even though I didn't tell them so, it's bargain 999 NT$, less than 2,000 pesos.  But it was like 8 discs in individual amaray.  EMS ang courier.  Post Office opted to calculate it per disc with estimated value.  Ayaw maniwala sa printed invoice and I paid someting like 2,000 din for duties and fees.  Ayaw din ma-paareglo then kasi may hidden cam daw sa kanila, baka mawalan ng trabaho...

Pag umo-order ako sa Yes Asia, I also ask the, to label it as gift.  Or kung hindi pwede, I just tell them not to put any amount on the receipt. Pumapayag naman sila kaya PhP30 lang binabayaran ko rito sa Valenzuela. Pero I also make sure na less than 5 discs lang ang ino-order ko. Pag marami kasi, "nagdududa" 'yung checker. Since walang amount sa receipt, wala naman sila magawa.

Ako naman, I wouldn't mind paying taxes so long as 'yun 'yung rightful amount.  Nakakainis 'yung tinataga, eh.
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« Reply #20 on: Feb 24, 2010 at 12:21 PM »
Meron na naman akong dumating na mga DVD today.  4 separate packages sya, yung isa mas malaki kaysa doon sa tatlo dahil tin packaging sya.  Surprisingly, dineliver dito sa office, so I didn't have to pay anything.  Nakakapagtaka yung inconsistency.  Wala namang nakalagay na through Royal Logistics sya dumaan.  Ang weird talaga.  Madalas mangyari ito.  Ano ba talaga ang sistema?

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Re: Customs: (insert invective here)
« Reply #21 on: Feb 24, 2010 at 12:37 PM »
sa tingin ko ang sistema is random checking.... kasama na dun yung basta pag fedex/dhl... i tax lahat..


sa laki ng tax defecit, siguro binigyan ng go signal ng BIR ang customs to tax away.... kaya kahit i resibo, e di mas panig pa sa bir since mas liliit ang deficit..

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« Reply #22 on: Feb 24, 2010 at 01:37 PM »
Dahil yata sa Lateral Attrition yan eh.  Pag hindi nila na-meet yung target, sila ang mananagot.  Kaya feeling ko, kahit sobra-sobra, icha-charge nila para lang ma-meet yung target nila.

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« Reply #23 on: Feb 24, 2010 at 02:18 PM »
ako 2 separate experiences....


sa n. domingo (sampaloc, manila) post office, summer 2001, halimaw yung taga customs jan.

worth P8k of "toy" naka label na gift only at naka gift wrap pa. pinakitaan ako ng computation worth P4k
sabi ko wala ako pera, ayun tinawag ako sa office ng custom agent dun kame nagusap at sinabi sa akin:

"magkano ba kaya mo? yung hindi naman kami talo"  sabi ko yung uncle ko na pulis na lang kukuha at nung tinatanong ko name nya nagalit, konting pameryenda lang matigas ka pala sige papunthin mo uncle mo.

nakuha naman ng uncle ko, nag-tip lang sya ng P50, pang halo-halo.



june 2008, qc post office nia road, mejo mabait pero same pa din.

pinadalhan ako ng friend ko from canada ng gaming video card worth P12k. pinakita sa akin ng taga customs yung listahan at computation. anlaki: P5.5k kase daw import dues. at kung anu-ano pa.

sabi ko: sir, baka pede yan yung walang resibo katulad dun sa post office sa sampaloc pede dun e.

customs qc: ano? loko yung mga tagaron ha... sino nag offer sila o ikaw?

sabi ko: sila po di ko nga alam na pede pala yun e... ano payag ka ba?

customs qc: e sino ba nag offer? ikaw di ba ... basta malinaw na ikaw ang nag-offer. teka ibaba mo muna yang cell mo. nirerecord mo b ko?

sabi ko: ok, pero P500 lang pera ko dito, pantaxi ko hanggang bahay P150, meryenda pa ko.

cutoms qc: akina yung P500 mo, eto P150 pamasahe mo... sabay abot ng matigas na pandesal na nahagingan ng peanut butter, o meryenda mo.

ayos, me video card na ko!


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« Reply #24 on: Feb 24, 2010 at 08:50 PM »
Meron na naman akong dumating na mga DVD today.  4 separate packages sya, yung isa mas malaki kaysa doon sa tatlo dahil tin packaging sya.  Surprisingly, dineliver dito sa office, so I didn't have to pay anything.  Nakakapagtaka yung inconsistency.  Wala namang nakalagay na through Royal Logistics sya dumaan.  Ang weird talaga.  Madalas mangyari ito.  Ano ba talaga ang sistema?

may mga times na ganyan nga sila. minsan dinideretso na rin sa bahay ang pag-deliver like 'yung mga order ko nu'ng december. pero kadalasan sa post office ko kinukuha.
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« Reply #25 on: Feb 24, 2010 at 09:04 PM »
Customs has a quota, you cannot do anything about it.  :(

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« Reply #26 on: Feb 25, 2010 at 07:39 AM »
cutoms qc: akina yung P500 mo, eto P150 pamasahe mo... sabay abot ng matigas na pandesal na nahagingan ng peanut butter, o meryenda mo.

 :o

hahaha,....

hanep talaga sa atin, sa lahat na lang ng bagay, may red tape....

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« Reply #27 on: Feb 25, 2010 at 09:02 AM »
:o

hahaha,....

hanep talaga sa atin, sa lahat na lang ng bagay, may red tape....

on a more serious note... hindi po talaga maganda yung sistema dito sa atin kaya wala talaga pagasa umunlad, kapwa pilipino ginagatasan e.

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« Reply #28 on: Feb 25, 2010 at 11:17 AM »
Pumapayag ba ang mga sellers like Amazon na naka-under value ang declaration sa resibo..?
Or kung nakalagay na gift sa package niya..?

Nasaktan ako sa taxes na binayaran ko kasi nuon, kaya hindi na ako umulit na magparating dito, puro sa US
ko na lang ipinapadala lahat....

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« Reply #29 on: Feb 25, 2010 at 01:11 PM »
May kaibigan ako who tried to ask a UK company to under-declare the cost of his package para hindi siya madali sa customs. Sinagot sa kanya:

You're so rude! We cannot believe you would even suggest we become a part of an improper criminal act such as that. We no longer would like to do business with you. Please consider your order terminated, and do not try to contact us in the future, or we shall be reporting you to the proper authorities.

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