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Mikee is Stuck in Stereo! Dabbling in Portable Hi-Fi
« on: Aug 24, 2010 at 03:32 PM »
Evolution of my Stereo / 2.1 setup:

Really old stereo setup: (circa 2002-Aug 1 2010)
Acoustic Energy Aegis Evo 1 Bookshelf (Bought 2006)
Klipsch RW10 Sub (Bought Dec. 2009)
Harman/Kardon HK 3470 Stereo Receiver (Bought 2002)
Pioneer DV 595K DVD/CD Player (Bought 2007)
33" Steel Speaker stands (Bought 2006)
 
*Note: I thought they were 26" when this thread was started, so when I finally measured them it was 33" pala


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grilles on (toed in)



grilles off (toed in)



Right speaker and Klipsch RW10 Sub location



Left speaker



Pioneer DVD/CD/VCD/MP3/WMA Player (never used it for DVDs, purely for MP3s/WMAs/CDs)
Harman/Kardon HK3470 Stereo Receiver


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Quite Old stereo setup: (Circa Aug 3,2010 - Sept. 20, 2010)
Mission MV4 Bookshelf
Klipsch RW10 Sub
Harman/Kardon HK 3470 Stereo Receiver
Pioneer DV 595K DVD/CD Player
33" Speaker Stands

Pic

Grilles on (toed in)



Grilles off (toed in)



Listening position


Right Speaker, source+amplification, sub



Left speaker

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Old Setup: (Circa October 2010 - September 2011)
Polk Audio RTiA3 Bookshelves
Harman/Kardon HK3470 Stereo Receiver
Samsung DV-350C DVD/CD/MP3/WMA Player
Klipsch RW10 Sub


Grilles on


Grilles off


Left speaker


Right speaker


from my listening spot - look ma, NO MORE TOE-INS!


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Previous Setup: (September 2011 to 2012)

Polk Audio LSi9
Rotel RCD-06SE CD Player
Rotel RA-06SE Integrated Amp (as preamp)
Rotel RB-1582 Power Amp
Klipsch RW-10 Subwoofer
Cal's ICs
Sabre 24" Stands




Rotel RA-06SE Int Amp and Rotel RCD-06SE CD Player




Polk Audio LSi9 Bookshelves + Stand, Klipsch RW10 Subwoofer , Rotel Setup








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February 2013 - March 2014

Polk Audio LSi9 Bookshelves
Rotel RCD06SE CD Player
Rotel RA06SE Integrated Amp (as preamp)
Rotel RB1582 Power Amp
Cal's ICs
Sabre 24" Stands


Rotel RB1582 (Left), Rotel RA06SE (Top Right), Rotel RCD06SE (Bottom Right)


Grilles On


Grilles Off


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March 2014 to Present


Home Stereo

Polk Audio LSi9 Bookshelves
Onkyo CS5VL SACD/CD/Mp3 Player
Onkyo DV500SP CD/DVD-A/DVD/VCD/Mp3 Player
Cambridge Audio Azur 650A Integrated Amp (as preamp)
Rotel RB1582 Power Amp
2x Cal's ICs
QED Performance Audio2 ICs
Shuzz's Custom 31" Solid Wood Stands for the LSi9s


Portable Stereo

Fiio X5 Portable Digital Audio Player / DAC
Fiio E12 Mont Blanc Portable Power Amp
AKG K172HD Closed-Back Headphones
Audio-Technica ATH-M50 Closed-Back Headphones
Focal Spirit One-S Closed-Back Headphones
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Re: Mikee's 2 /2.1 Audio Setup
« Reply #1 on: Aug 24, 2010 at 06:32 PM »
Very simple yet effective set-up sir! Mukhang custom made yan stands kasi 26"...

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Re: Mikee's 2 /2.1 Audio Setup
« Reply #2 on: Aug 24, 2010 at 11:41 PM »
Thanks Nelson!

I'm actually looking for a 28" or 30" stand because the Mission's MV4 tweeters are now below ear level LOL.
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Re: Mikee's 2 /2.1 Audio Setup
« Reply #3 on: Aug 25, 2010 at 12:28 AM »
Turbokiller will solve your problems at half the cost of branded stands.  ;)

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Re: Mikee's 2 /2.1 Audio Setup
« Reply #4 on: Aug 25, 2010 at 03:05 AM »
nice setup sir, just wanted to ask if there's any issue with bass since your speakers are rear ported and against the wall, have the similar situation but my speakers are rear ported also but against a 1/4" wooden type of enclosure with around an inch or two allowance from rear port to the 1/4" wood thingy

thanks!
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Re: Mikee's 2 /2.1 Audio Setup
« Reply #5 on: Aug 25, 2010 at 04:25 AM »


Nice Setup!.. ;D
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Re: Mikee's 2 /2.1 Audio Setup
« Reply #6 on: Aug 25, 2010 at 05:14 AM »

hey Bro, simple but nice set-up..  :)

by the way... how's the comparison of your EVO and MV4...  ;)

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Re: Mikee's 2 /2.1 Audio Setup
« Reply #7 on: Aug 25, 2010 at 09:25 AM »
nice audio setup sir!  :)

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Re: Mikee's 2 /2.1 Audio Setup
« Reply #8 on: Aug 25, 2010 at 09:55 AM »
hey Bro, simple but nice set-up..  :)

by the way... how's the comparison of your EVO and MV4...  ;)

I have the same question. :)

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Re: Mikee's 2 /2.1 Audio Setup
« Reply #9 on: Aug 25, 2010 at 02:06 PM »
@ Nelson,

Does TurboKiller fabricate stainless steel speaker stands (and can be loaded with sand)? Where is he located?


@ Gabbby,

Yep it has been an ongoing issue with either the Acoustic Energy Evo 1 and now .. the Mission MV4 .. the LACK of bass.

Supposedly if I were still in our former flat in Cubao (all concrete) it would have been spectacular but since we're now in my grandma's place and its made of hardwood (narra) .. bass died a natural death, hence the need for a sub.

the speakers are toed in by about 5-10 degrees to the listening spot (rocking chair)

Perhaps I should get a front ported bookshelf (Klipsch RB-61/81, MA BX2)


@audiojunkie,

Thanks! =)


@Brian_Mico
Thanks! =)

Comparison of EVO and MV4

EVO1
(+) lower bass resonance (when I was living in a concrete flat, no need for a sub anymore)
(+) metal cones
(+) heavy built
(+) Diana Krall / Norah Jones sounds like they're doing a personal concert (singing front centre - and singing only to me)
(+) Bi-wireable / Bi-Amp capable

(-) cone moves too much and sometimes even bottoms out with R&B / Opera
(-) midrange is too controlled .. not much even
(-) sound staging is limited to the small sweetspot whether toed in or not
(-) lacks stereo imaging at low volumes
(-) requires a long break in period (took almost 2 months)


MV4
(+) SPECTACULAR soundstaging (even out of the box), goes without saying stereo imaging is there out of the box, and the sweet spot is now a lot larger.
(+) Midrange is better (after the break in) and Treble performance is a lot better
(+) cone movement is controlled even with heavy bass
(+) Larger/longer cabinet
(+) reveals bad mp3 recordings or CD recordings
(+) short break-in period (1-2 weeks)

(-) Bass performance is worse than EVO1s
(-) Lighter than the EVO1
(-) out of the box experience was really irrirating - midrange sounds similar to karaoke machines in raon
(-) No bi-wiring / bi-amping capability
(-) Norah Jones and Diana Krall now seems to be staging a concert for everyone, not just for me (you can hear the background in the live performance .. as if you're just one of the audience)
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Re: Mikee's 2 /2.1 Audio Setup
« Reply #10 on: Aug 25, 2010 at 07:25 PM »
I don't think Turbokiller can help you. But i can.  ;D

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Re: Mikee's 2 /2.1 Audio Setup
« Reply #11 on: Aug 25, 2010 at 10:31 PM »
Congrats, bro!
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Re: Mikee's 2 /2.1 Audio Setup
« Reply #12 on: Aug 26, 2010 at 01:14 PM »
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Re: Mikee's 2 /2.1 Audio Setup
« Reply #13 on: Aug 26, 2010 at 03:58 PM »
This is my gaming rig (mostly for driving sims - NFS shift / undercover / prostreet) cum HD movie viewing deck (720p,1080p)

PC Specs

Proc: Intel Core i7 920
Mobo: Intel DX58SO
Cooling: Corsair Dominator Airflow Fan (Memory); Corsair H50 Water cooling kit (Processor), Fan Tweak for the IOH on the motherboard
Mems: 3GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3-1600 (Triple Channel 1GB)
SATA HDDs: 1TB OS/Games/Apps drive; 1TB HD/Std Def Movie drive ; 500GB MP3 / Backup Drive
SATA DVD: Plextor PX-880SA Writer/Reader with Lightscribe
Power: Corsair TX-850 850W 80Plus Power Supply
Graphics: Palit GTX 260 216SP Sonic Edition 1792mb GDDR3 448bit video card (with HDMI/DVI/VGA out)
Sound: Integrated Realtek 889A 7.1 channel codec with SPDIF optical and digital out
Monitor: 24" Samsung 245B - 1920x1200 res, 5ms response on DVI
Speakers: Altec-Lansing ADA 305 (Dolby Pro-Logic) 2.1 on analog out
Chassis: CoolerMaster HAF 932 Full tower
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate

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Re: Mikee's 2 /2.1 Audio Setup
« Reply #14 on: Aug 26, 2010 at 03:59 PM »
congrats!  :)

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Re: Mikee's 2 /2.1 Audio Setup
« Reply #15 on: Aug 26, 2010 at 05:19 PM »
Thanks Nelson!

I'm actually looking for a 28" or 30" stand because the Mission's MV4 tweeters are now below ear level LOL.

I think they're really supposed to be that way, that's the idea behind the "Inverted driver geometry for time alignment" concept.
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congrats :)

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Oh my gulay. monster PC yan ah!  :o

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congrats :)

Thanks! =)


I think they're really supposed to be that way, that's the idea behind the "Inverted driver geometry for time alignment" concept.

True.

Except that...the MV4 'sounds' funny where it is installed right now (on the pedestals)

I discovered only a few hours ago during a music chill-out session when I was 'it' (was the one left without a chair and I sat on the floor) it sounded a lot better me sitting on the floor than me on a chair.

change chairs perhaps?

Oh my gulay. monster PC yan ah!  :o

Nelson, thanks!  8)
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nice htpc specs!  :)

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nice htpc specs!  :)

Thanks Tein,

Actually the HTPC came as an afterthought .. I'm using the rig more on gaming, nevertheless its glorious for personal HiDef movie watching (1-2 feet feet from the screen) and mostly on the headphones (senn HD280) for both gaming and movie watching.
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Thanks Tein,

Actually the HTPC came as an afterthought .. I'm using the rig more on gaming, nevertheless its glorious for personal HiDef movie watching (1-2 feet feet from the screen) and mostly on the headphones (senn HD280) for both gaming and movie watching.

Hehe me also naka htpc, before it was a gaming rig din pero now full time htpc na sya, with slight gaming nalang hehe. you can it out here also sa page 2 ata sya hehe tagal na d update  ;)

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adjusted the speakers (1m behind the back wall with the painting)

adjusted my seat location (opened the balcony door for open-air listening)

result: norah jones, diana krall and frank sinatra are back doing private concerts for me.

adverse reaction: The MV4's vocal performance exceeded my expectation. Way back then with the evo I can listen to music with all lights off and they'd sing in far behind, now the staging area became closer that I just had to turn the lights on just to be sure its just the CD and not ole' blue eyes haunting me.
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Waw HAF 932 or 922 ba yung case mo brader congrats hehe  ;D ;D we have the same case hehe

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Waw HAF 932 or 922 ba yung case mo brader congrats hehe  ;D ;D we have the same case hehe

its the 932 (full tower)
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Woow, very nice rig bro  ;D

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nice htpc specs!  ;)
ang dami!  :D
congrats bro.!
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nice htpc specs!  ;)
ang dami!  :D
congrats bro.!

Thanks Mr. H  :D again, I envisioned this PC as a purely gaming rig, and its role as an HTPC just came in much later, when I started loading 1080p MKV movie files
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update

will be upgrading the bookshelves and CD player very soon
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