Author Topic: Question about interconnects (Read 2450 times)

meat_eater · « **on:** Mar 09, 2011 at 09:54 AM »

Hi mga sir,

I would like to know if there really is a BIG difference in sound or picture quality when using high end cables, wires and/or interconnects...

thanks!

bumblebee · « **Reply #1 on:** Mar 09, 2011 at 10:00 AM »

Some say meron, some say wala. But, if you really want good SQ with the gears you already have, invest on room treatments instead.

audiojunkie · « **Reply #2 on:** Mar 09, 2011 at 10:03 AM »

depende rin sir sa quality ng components nyo. Pero kahit 'di hi-end cables basta GQ ang materials na ginamit at properly shielded OK na na yan.

meat_eater · « **Reply #3 on:** Mar 09, 2011 at 10:07 AM »

Quote from: bumblebee on Mar 09, 2011 at 10:00 AM

Some say meron, some say wala. But, if you really want good SQ with the gears you already have, invest on room treatments instead.

Hmmm.... Pwede... excellent suggestion nga sir... NOTED... thanks

streetsmart · « **Reply #4 on:** Mar 09, 2011 at 10:25 AM »

This is a sensitive topic for a lot of people. Take a look at this article. Interesting.

http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm

meat_eater · « **Reply #5 on:** Mar 09, 2011 at 10:35 AM »

Quote from: streetsmart on Mar 09, 2011 at 10:25 AM

This is a sensitive topic for a lot of people. Take a look at this article. Interesting.

http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm

Yes sir, debate nga sia usually... thanks for the link..

TonyT · « **Reply #6 on:** Mar 09, 2011 at 11:04 AM »

there must be some guideline, like if you bought your preamp for say 5k, surely you will not get a 5k interconnect.....

to justify the use a 5k interconnect, then your preamp must cost in the vicinity of 100k or more.........

qguy · « **Reply #7 on:** Mar 09, 2011 at 11:43 AM »

Rule of thumb. Spend 10 percent of your total system cost on cables, but then again some thumbs are bigger than others

Quote from: TonyT on Mar 09, 2011 at 11:04 AM

there must be some guideline, like if you bought your preamp for say 5k, surely you will not get a 5k interconnect.....

to justify the use a 5k interconnect, then your preamp must cost in the vicinity of 100k or more.........

meat_eater · « **Reply #8 on:** Mar 09, 2011 at 12:27 PM »

hehehe.. thing is, is there a difference in sound or picture quality?

A notable difference for that matter.

TonyT · « **Reply #9 on:** Mar 09, 2011 at 12:41 PM »

Quote from: meat_eater on Mar 09, 2011 at 12:27 PM

hehehe.. thing is, is there a difference in sound or picture quality?

A notable difference for that matter.

i believe that it is best to find out for yourself.......

meat_eater · « **Reply #10 on:** Mar 11, 2011 at 06:48 AM »

Quote from: TonyT on Mar 09, 2011 at 12:41 PM

i believe that it is best to find out for yourself.......

Hehehe... Actually, I will.. Just wanted to know sa mga na una na nag palit ng interconnects.

thanks

looks · « **Reply #11 on:** Mar 11, 2011 at 07:15 AM »

in sound quality, my experience is some ics/speaker wires can extend the high frequency (silver wires and ics) others in low frequency ( copper wires ) and a few can do both.

TonyT · « **Reply #12 on:** Mar 11, 2011 at 09:05 AM »

Quote from: meat_eater on Mar 11, 2011 at 06:48 AM

Hehehe... Actually, I will.. Just wanted to know sa mga na una na nag palit ng interconnects.

thanks

this is a very subjective thing, kung sabihin kong night and day ang pinagkaiba, then sinubuka mo tapos hindi hindi naman pala, then dissapointed ka.....

try mo muna yung interconnects na kasama ng gears mo, live with it for a while, then work your way up from there.....para meron kang basehan.....

baka matapat ka pa sa nagbebenta ng interconnects, yari ka......

Tempter · « **Reply #13 on:** Mar 11, 2011 at 09:09 AM »

Quote from: TonyT on Mar 11, 2011 at 09:05 AM

this is a very subjective thing, kung sabihin kong night and day ang pinagkaiba, then sinubuka mo tapos hindi hindi naman pala, then dissapointed ka.....

try mo muna yung interconnects na kasama ng gears mo, live with it for a while, then work your way up from there.....para meron kang basehan.....

baka matapat ka pa sa nagbebenta ng interconnects, yari ka......

This is actually a sound advice...

meat_eater · « **Reply #14 on:** Mar 11, 2011 at 10:45 AM »

Quote from: Tempter on Mar 11, 2011 at 09:09 AM

This is actually a sound advice...

well, it is nga... Good thing me nasira ako wire, try ko bumili ng rca na worth 300-500... isa lang muna... then check sa regular if me diff nga.. hehehe

TonyT · « **Reply #15 on:** Mar 11, 2011 at 12:48 PM »

Quote from: meat_eater on Mar 11, 2011 at 10:45 AM

well, it is nga... Good thing me nasira ako wire, try ko bumili ng rca na worth 300-500... isa lang muna... then check sa regular if me diff nga.. hehehe

what ever your heart desires is probably the right decision.....

audiojunkie · « **Reply #16 on:** Mar 11, 2011 at 01:03 PM »

ang diff depende yan sa reaction ng 'yong gears sa bagong metal compositions between components. so, dalawa lang yan, gumanda o pumangit ang tunog. paggumanda syempre gusto mo pa gumanda kaya palit ng iba mas mahal coz we always thought high cost = high quality, yun ang "upgrade" , but not always tha case. pagpumangit tunog subok ng iba at yun naman ang "replacement" ..... it's a never ending journey but would suggest to get Good quality wires at reasonable price and stop there. as everyone's suggested look at your listening environment, I mean acoustics/ room treatments , you'll get a new listening experience...

meat_eater · « **Reply #17 on:** Mar 11, 2011 at 03:04 PM »

Quote from: audiojunkie on Mar 11, 2011 at 01:03 PM

ang diff depende yan sa reaction ng 'yong gears sa bagong metal compositions between components. so, dalawa lang yan, gumanda o pumangit ang tunog. paggumanda syempre gusto mo pa gumanda kaya palit ng iba mas mahal coz we always thought high cost = high quality, yun ang "upgrade" , but not always tha case. pagpumangit tunog subok ng iba at yun naman ang "replacement" ..... it's a never ending journey but would suggest to get Good quality wires at reasonable price and stop there. as everyone's suggested look at your listening environment, I mean acoustics/ room treatments , you'll get a new listening experience...

Thanks, isa pa nga yun sa mga next in line.. room acoustics... hehehe

at_sunset_blvd · « **Reply #18 on:** Mar 23, 2011 at 08:03 AM »

Cables are just 5% emphasis on the entire system

reynold · « **Reply #19 on:** Mar 23, 2011 at 08:48 AM »

Here's my take on this...

Sometimes may quality difference pero very minimal lang... lumalaki lang ang difference kapag medyo may kamahalan yung cable na binili mo, masasabi mong "grabe, ang laki ng difference, gumanda ang SQ/PQ!!!", pero sa totoo lang, halos wala naman pinagkaiba, naging parang malaki lang ang difference kasi ang mahal nya at kailangan mong i-justify yung presyo (marami dito ang ganyan, hehehe naging ganyan din ako dati

) imagine a cable/speaker wire na halos kasing mahal na ng gears mo, malamang sasabihin mo na pangit ang gears mo at ang nagpaganda lang sa tunog/PQ ay yung cable, hehehe

instead of spending too much on IC/Video Cables/Speaker Wires, idagdag mo na lang yung money pang upgrade ng gears mo

For me, isa lang ang maganda sa mga mamahaling IC/Speaker Wires at Video cables na yan... mas sturdy at matibay ang pagkakagawa nyan, at higit sa lahat, pang-porma lang... yun lang yun

FrancisD · « **Reply #20 on:** Mar 23, 2011 at 08:56 AM »

Hi:
For most systems very noticeable impact ng speaker wires. So kung wires, this has the most effect.

For very transparent systems, you will notice differences in RCA wires.

Comment above is for normal wires. There are wires that actually changes the sound. I use MIT speaker cables and the impact is very dramatic - naging tubey ang sound which complements the solid state amps.

For video, I think good cables will be enough, we usually perceive less importance sa video. If you can tolerate LCD, I think differences in video cables will be minor compared to difference with Plasma quality.

The best thing is to audition, pero dito parang hindi ito pwede, tsk...

bumblebee · « **Reply #21 on:** Mar 23, 2011 at 09:02 AM »

I recall reading reviews saying a tweak made their system 10% better. Another tweak, 10% uli. Another tweak, night and day na raw. Makes me wonder how crappy the original system was

praktikal · « **Reply #22 on:** Mar 23, 2011 at 12:02 PM »

Mas maganda siguro bago bumili ng mamahaling kable, silipin muna sa loob ng gears ang ginamit na kasi baka ang tataba nga ng panlabas na kable tapos sa loob pala ang ninipis. Loob mun bago labas.

Teka, ano ba ang hiwaga ng Mundorf?

markcrenz · « **Reply #23 on:** Mar 23, 2011 at 04:11 PM »

Quote from: praktikal on Mar 23, 2011 at 12:02 PM

Teka, ano ba ang hiwaga ng Mundorf?

di naman interconnect yan

meat_eater · « **Reply #24 on:** Mar 23, 2011 at 04:21 PM »

Hmmmm... I actually tried buying one.. just one RCA na ndi super mahal, but definitely of good qulity, kasi the wires are much much thicker, and gold plated na yun dulo..

Hmm... I think me difference sia.. Marginal diff nga lang ang ginanda ng SQ, maybe 3-5% lang, maybe even less... but, I think its a good thing din, they look more durable, and they look WAY COOLER than the cheap RCA wires that I had used before...

Sabi nga nun iba, Your HI FI system is like a singer....

She doesn't juts have to sing well, she has to look good din... hehehehe

meat_eater · « **Reply #25 on:** Mar 23, 2011 at 04:27 PM »

Quote from: reynold on Mar 23, 2011 at 08:48 AM

Here's my take on this...

Sometimes may quality difference pero very minimal lang... lumalaki lang ang difference kapag medyo may kamahalan yung cable na binili mo, masasabi mong "grabe, ang laki ng difference, gumanda ang SQ/PQ!!!", pero sa totoo lang, halos wala naman pinagkaiba, naging parang malaki lang ang difference kasi ang mahal nya at kailangan mong i-justify yung presyo (marami dito ang ganyan, hehehe naging ganyan din ako dati ) imagine a cable/speaker wire na halos kasing mahal na ng gears mo, malamang sasabihin mo na pangit ang gears mo at ang nagpaganda lang sa tunog/PQ ay yung cable, hehehe

instead of spending too much on IC/Video Cables/Speaker Wires, idagdag mo na lang yung money pang upgrade ng gears mo

For me, isa lang ang maganda sa mga mamahaling IC/Speaker Wires at Video cables na yan... mas sturdy at matibay ang pagkakagawa nyan, at higit sa lahat, pang-porma lang... yun lang yun

TAMA! hehehe

warmaster · « **Reply #26 on:** Feb 22, 2012 at 12:11 AM »

sorry to bump an old thread. but i do have an interconnect querry. i heard somewhere that it is also advisable to get an IC of made by the manufacturer of your electronic gear. which means if i am using a cambridge audio amp it may be beneficial to use a cambridge audio IC. perhaps they were designed with each other in mind or they were tested multiple times together.

what say you peeps?

Stagea · « **Reply #27 on:** Feb 22, 2012 at 02:04 AM »

Quote from: warmaster on Feb 22, 2012 at 12:11 AM

sorry to bump an old thread. but i do have an interconnect querry. i heard somewhere that it is also advisable to get an IC of made by the manufacturer of your electronic gear. which means if i am using a cambridge audio amp it may be beneficial to use a cambridge audio IC. perhaps they were designed with each other in mind or they were tested multiple times together.

what say you peeps?

It's not always the case, especially if your system, room, layout or preference deviates from the hardware developer's. I suggest getting all your final components (source, speakers, etc.) before rolling ICs.

The IC that may sound great with your existing gear may not be the same one that would work with your future gear.

warmaster · « **Reply #28 on:** Feb 22, 2012 at 03:34 PM »

Quote from: Stagea on Feb 22, 2012 at 02:04 AM

It's not always the case, especially if your system, room, layout or preference deviates from the hardware developer's. I suggest getting all your final components (source, speakers, etc.) before rolling ICs.

The IC that may sound great with your existing gear may not be the same one that would work with your future gear.

i see ( no pun intended). good to know. napaka dynamic rin talaga ng hobby na to, not to mention magastos. but i will remember this tip when i acquire a matching cd player and audition speakers

Billabong · « **Reply #29 on:** Feb 22, 2012 at 11:47 PM »

Quote from: warmaster on Feb 22, 2012 at 03:34 PM

i see ( no pun intended). good to know. napaka dynamic rin talaga ng hobby na to, not to mention magastos. but i will remember this tip when i acquire a matching cd player and audition speakers

Yup, i agree. Although magastos, this is what makes this hobby fun and exciting. Sabi nga nila, sometimes it's not the destination that matters, but the journey.