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Re: NBA 2011 Offseason and/or Impending Lockout
« Reply #90 on: Jun 16, 2011 at 02:45 PM »
paano kung umalis si howard sa magic...may makauto sa knyang ibang team gaya ni lbj na mukhang inuto ng husto ni pat riley hehehehe..magaya kaya siya kay lebron na hate din siya ng mga magic fans??

hindi yan! maraming nagalit kay lebron hindi dahil na umalis siya sa cleveland. nagalit un mga tao dahil sa The Decision. para ksing pinamukha niya pa sa Cleveland fans na ayaw niya talaga sa home town niya. Hindi nman talaga fail un Heat. ganyan din nman ngyari sa Lakers nun nkuha nila si gasol nun 2008. Fail din. pro bumawi next season. Like I said in the other thread, charge to experience this year for the heat. They will learn from their mistakes and mature towards next season. ;D Kya be prepared, HEAT will be back next season with a vengeance! ;)
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Re: NBA 2011 Offseason and/or Impending Lockout
« Reply #91 on: Jun 16, 2011 at 02:46 PM »
deandre jordan sleeper...
san kaya mapupunta yan?

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Re: NBA 2011 Offseason and/or Impending Lockout
« Reply #92 on: Jun 16, 2011 at 03:00 PM »
^Di pakakawalan ng Clips si Deandre, restricted e. Pag restricted pwede i-match ng team na may-ari yung  pinakamataas na offer.

Dapat kunin na lang ng Heat ay si Cris Bolado.

Si Miller naman, may Team Option. Malabong hindi i-excercise ng Blazers yun.

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Re: NBA 2011 Offseason and/or Impending Lockout
« Reply #93 on: Jun 16, 2011 at 03:06 PM »
si lucky charm bolado hahaha..kahit san magpunta to nagchachampion ...swift-alaska-purefoods...heat

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Re: NBA 2011 Offseason and/or Impending Lockout
« Reply #94 on: Jun 16, 2011 at 03:07 PM »
^
oo, kahit panggatas lang, maglalaro yun  ;D

Mga target naman ng Bulls:

Shooting Guard
(name, team – 2010-11 salary – status)

Ray Allen, Boston Celtics - $10.0 million – Player Option ($10.0 million)
Jason Richardson, Phoenix Suns - $14.4 million - Unrestricted
Jamal Crawford, Atlanta Hawks - $10.1 million – Unrestricted
Arron Afflalo, Denver Nuggets - $2.0 million – Restricted ($2.9 million Qualifying Offer)
Wilson Chandler, New York Knicks - $2.1 million – Restricted ($3.1 million Qualifying Offer)
Shannon Brown, L.A. Lakers - $2.1 million – Player Option ($2.4 million)
C.J. Miles, Utah Jazz - $3.7 million – Team Option ($3.7 million)
J.R. Smith, Denver Nuggets - $6.0 million – Unrestricted
DeShawn Stevenson, Dallas Mavericks - $4.2 million – Unrestricted
Mike Dunleavy, Indiana Pacers - $10.6 million – Unrestricted
Chris Douglas-Roberts, Milwaukee Bucks - $0.9 million – Unrestricted*
Nick Young, Washington Wizards - $2.6 million – Restricted ($3.7 million Qualifying Offer)
Sonny Weems, Toronto Raptors - $0.9 million – Unrestricted*
Mo Evans, Atlanta Hawks - $2.5 million – Unrestricted
Daequan Cook, Oklahoma City Thunder - $2.2 million – Restricted ($3.1 million Qualifying Offer)
Anthony Parker, Cleveland Cavaliers - $2.9 million – Unrestricted
Eddie House, Miami HEAT - $1.4 million – Player Option ($1.4 million)
Marquis Daniels, Boston Celtics - $2.5 million – Unrestricted
Marcus Thornton, New Orleans Hornets - $0.8 million – Unrestricted*
Morris Peterson, Oklahoma City Thunder - $6.2 million - Unrestricted
Roger Mason, New York Knicks - $1.4 million - Unrestricted
Marco Belinelli, New Orleans Hornets - $2.4 million – Restricted ($3.4 million Qualifying Offer)
Gary Forbes, Denver Nuggets - $0.5 million – Unrestricted*
Michael Redd, Milwaukee Bucks - $18.3 million - Unrestricted
Delonte West, Boston Celtics - $1.1 million – Unrestricted
Stephen Graham, New Jersey Nets - $1.0 million – Team Option ($1.1 million)
Dominic McGuire, Charlotte Bobcats - $0.9 million – Unrestricted
Alonzo Gee, Washington Wizards - $0.6 million – Unrestricted*
Jeremy Lin, Golden State Warriors - $0.5 million – Team Option ($0.8 million)
Von Wafer, Boston Celtics - $0.9 million – Unrestricted
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Re: NBA 2011 Offseason and/or Impending Lockout
« Reply #95 on: Jun 16, 2011 at 03:11 PM »
si jamal pala pwede balik chicago... :D

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Re: NBA 2011 Offseason and/or Impending Lockout
« Reply #96 on: Jun 16, 2011 at 03:24 PM »
LOCKOUT OR NOT. THE BALL IS ROUND. THEY MADE A MISTAKE. TEAMWORK IS THE WORD. WE HAVE TO ACCEPT. THEY WON THE GAME. CONGRATULATIONS.

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Re: NBA 2011 Offseason and/or Impending Lockout
« Reply #97 on: Jun 16, 2011 at 03:26 PM »
LOCKOUT OR NOT. THE BALL IS ROUND. THEY MADE A MISTAKE. TEAMWORK IS THE WORD. WE HAVE TO ACCEPT. THEY WON THE GAME. CONGRATULATIONS.

ok ;D
i aGREE..

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Re: NBA 2011 Offseason and/or Impending Lockout
« Reply #98 on: Jun 16, 2011 at 09:10 PM »
CHI should get Rip Hamilton from Detroit. He has an expiring contract right? plus he has the experience they need to move forward in the east. :D

but isnt it that RIP suddenly vanished and di na napapagusapan which lead to me asking ano nga ba nangyari sa kanya bakit bigla na lang nawala
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Re: NBA 2011 Offseason and/or Impending Lockout
« Reply #99 on: Jun 16, 2011 at 09:17 PM »
nagkaproblema yata sila nun coach niya sa pistons..
binabangko siya

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Re: NBA 2011 Offseason and/or Impending Lockout
« Reply #100 on: Jun 16, 2011 at 09:25 PM »
nagkaproblema yata sila nun coach niya sa pistons..
binabangko siya

how about tyshaun prince nawal na din bigla and so is michael redd, eto yung mga sana mabigyna pa ng another chance at glory ang gagagling naman nila, pwede kayang lumipat sa mgta malalakas na team mga yan

im a boston fanatic, i dont know whats up for them next season. their big three may have seen the best of them KG is not as dominant as he was before and so is pierce, mukahang mahihirapan na ang clets next season
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Re: NBA 2011 Offseason and/or Impending Lockout
« Reply #101 on: Jun 16, 2011 at 09:33 PM »
^
Pre di pa expiring yung contract ni Rip, mga 2 yrs pa yun na worth $25+mil. Walang matinong team na makikipagtrade para kunin yung kontrata nya.

Ang nangyari sa Pistons ay bad management/coaching. Hindi sila makapagdecide kung rebuilding mode na ba sila o hindi. May mga player na may malaking kontrata na nakabangko lang (Villanueva/Gordon), pagktapos may mga beteranong gustong maglaro sa contending team na hindi pwede o ayaw nilang i-trade (Hamilton/Prince). Si Prince free agent na yata this yr.
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Re: NBA 2011 Offseason and/or Impending Lockout
« Reply #102 on: Jun 16, 2011 at 10:11 PM »
^
Pre di pa expiring yung contract ni Rip, mga 2 yrs pa yun na worth $25+mil. Walang matinong team na makikipagtrade para kunin yung kontrata nya.

Ang nangyari sa Pistons ay bad management/coaching. Hindi sila makapagdecide kung rebuilding mode na ba sila o hindi. May mga player na may malaking kontrata na nakabangko lang (Villanueva/Gordon), pagktapos may mga beteranong gustong maglaro sa contending team na hindi pwede o ayaw nilang i-trade (Hamilton/Prince). Si Prince free agent na yata this yr.

 was supposed to ask about this guy, di na ito yung ben gordon nam magling sa chicago? he could have just stayed baka iba pa ang naging kapalaran ng bulls, it seesm nung nawala si larry brown(tama ba) nawala na itong team na ito
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Re: NBA 2011 Offseason and/or Impending Lockout
« Reply #103 on: Jun 16, 2011 at 10:20 PM »
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Jose Barea, Dallas Mavericks - $1.7 million – Unrestricted

wow pagkakaguluhan ng mga teams to. unrestricted pa. based on how he performed in this years playoffs.

this guy is gonna earn big bucks!

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Re: NBA 2011 Offseason and/or Impending Lockout
« Reply #104 on: Jun 16, 2011 at 10:23 PM »
was supposed to ask about this guy, di na ito yung ben gordon nam magling sa chicago? he could have just stayed baka iba pa ang naging kapalaran ng bulls, it seesm nung nawala si larry brown(tama ba) nawala na itong team na ito

 Hindi pa kasi contender ang Bulls noon, kaya hindi nila priority si BG. Nagtipid ang Bulls para may cap space sila para sa summer of Lebron (they ended up with Boozer). Yung Pistons naman, imbes magtipid para magkaroon ng cap space para sa 2010 free agency, ginastos na lang nila kay Villanueva at BG nung 2009.

 Hindi si Larry Brown yung dahilan kung bakit unti-unting nawala ang Pistons kasi maganda naman yung record ni Flip Saunders na pumalit sa kanya. Nagsimula ata silang umasim nung tinrade nila si Billups para kay Iverson. Pagkatapos nun puro palpak na desisyon na ata ang ginawa ni Dumars.
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Re: NBA 2011 Offseason and/or Impending Lockout
« Reply #105 on: Jun 16, 2011 at 11:03 PM »
Hindi pa kasi contender ang Bulls noon, kaya hindi nila priority si BG. Nagtipid ang Bulls para may cap space sila para sa summer of Lebron (they ended up with Boozer). Yung Pistons naman, imbes magtipid para magkaroon ng cap space para sa 2010 free agency, ginastos na lang nila kay Villanueva at BG nung 2009.

 Hindi si Larry Brown yung dahilan kung bakit unti-unting nawala ang Pistons kasi maganda naman yung record ni Flip Saunders na pumalit sa kanya. Nagsimula ata silang umasim nung tinrade nila si Billups para kay Iverson. Pagkatapos nun puro palpak na desisyon na ata ang ginawa ni Dumars.

yes, wrong decision ni dumars na kunin si iverson nun para kay billups... dun nagsimula un down fall ng pistons. same sa ginawa ni danny ainge sa pagtrade niya kay perkins for jeff green and krystic this year tpos hindi nman ginamit si green nun playoffs. lumiit boston at minalas ksi laging injured si shaq at jermaine. I'm a Miami fan pero kunin nandun si perkins nun MIA vs. BOS series malamang hanggang game 7 un..
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Re: NBA 2011 Offseason and/or Impending Lockout
« Reply #106 on: Jun 17, 2011 at 08:31 AM »
that being said,isnt it about time palitan na si dumars?

halatang nagmadali sya dun sa pagkuha nya kay CV and BG.either nagtipid nga dapat para sa cap space,or held on to his money longer until the grade A free agents came up.(may naging kaagaw man lang ba DET kay villanueva and gordon?)

he essentially outbid his own ass.

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Re: NBA 2011 Offseason and/or Impending Lockout
« Reply #107 on: Jun 17, 2011 at 08:51 AM »
yes, wrong decision ni dumars na kunin si iverson nun para kay billups... dun nagsimula un down fall ng pistons. same sa ginawa ni danny ainge sa pagtrade niya kay perkins for jeff green and krystic this year tpos hindi nman ginamit si green nun playoffs. lumiit boston at minalas ksi laging injured si shaq at jermaine. I'm a Miami fan pero kunin nandun si perkins nun MIA vs. BOS series malamang hanggang game 7 un..

Ainge must really like Green for some reason. Wasn't he the one who originally drafted him before trading him to Seattle for Ray Allen?

that being said,isnt it about time palitan na si dumars?

halatang nagmadali sya dun sa pagkuha nya kay CV and BG.either nagtipid nga dapat para sa cap space,or held on to his money longer until the grade A free agents came up.(may naging kaagaw man lang ba DET kay villanueva and gordon?)

he essentially outbid his own ass.

I think he has amassed an incredible amount of good will not only because of his fairly successfull GM stint but also his stint as one of the "Bad Boys" from the 80's Pistons championship teams. I don't think that management wants to fire him just yet. But yeah, the CV and BG signing was awful for them. Signing RIP to a lucrative extension was pretty bad too.

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Re: NBA 2011 Offseason and/or Impending Lockout
« Reply #108 on: Jun 17, 2011 at 08:56 AM »
^ see? i missed that part wherein he signed Rip to another what,25M?

they should fire his ass! ;D

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Re: NBA 2011 Offseason and/or Impending Lockout
« Reply #109 on: Jun 17, 2011 at 09:12 AM »
Since were talking about GM's, here a pretty interesting article from last year:

Ranking All 30 NBA GMs,Where Kahn's Incompetence Is Surpassed

30.  Larry Bird, Indiana Pacers
29.  Ed Stefanski, Philadelphia 76ers
28.  Larry Riley, Golden State Warriors
27.  Bryan Colangelo, Toronto Raptors
26.  David Kahn, Timberwolves
25.  Mike Dunleavy, Clippers
24.  Joe Dumars, Pistons
23.  Michael Jordan/Rod Higgins, Bobcats
22.  Rick Sund, Hawks
21.  Chris Wallace, Grizzlies
20.  Jeff Bower, Hornets
19.  Gar Forman/John Paxson, Bulls
18.  Ernie Grunfeld, Wizards
17.  Otis Smith, Magic
16.  Steve Kerr, Suns
15.  Danny Ferry, Cavaliers
14.  Donnie Walsh, Knicks
13.  Mitch Kupchak, Lakers
12.  Rod Thorn, Nets
11.  John Hammond, Bucks
10.  Donnie Nelson, Mavericks
9.  Geoff Petrie, Kings
8.  Danny Ainge, Celtics
7.  R.C. Buford, Spurs
6.  Kevin Pritchard, Blazers

TOP 5

5.  Mark Warkentien, Nuggets


Hired: 2006.

Coaches: George Karl (2006-present)

Long-term plan: Contend for a championship, even with an inherited hefty luxury-tax bill.

Key draft picks: Ty Lawson (18th, 2009).

Key trades:

    2006 season: Traded Andre Miller, Joe Smith's expiring contract and two first-round picks in 2007 to 76ers for Allen Iverson.
    2008 season: Traded Iverson to Pistons for Chauncey Billups and Antonio McDyess.

Key free agent signings: Carmelo Anthony, 2006 (five-year max contract), Nene in 2006 (six years, $60 million), J.R. Smith in 2008 (three years, $15 million), Chris Andersen in 2009 (five years, $26 million), Al Harrington in 2010 (five years, $34 million)

Key free agents let go: Steve Blake (2007), Marcus Camby (2008 -- not officially, but dumped for nothing), Linas Kleiza (2009), Dahntay Jones (2009).

Warkentien got dealt a really tough hand because the previous GM, Kiki Vandeweghe, threw around money way too frivolously for an owner who doesn't have incredibly deep pockets. Somehow, he's managed to build a contender despite that, finding great free-agent bargains and making shrewd moves to stay in contention while also trimming some salary. The Allen Iverson move is his only blemish, but he corrected that with the Chauncey Billups trade.

The Nuggets are probably in even more of a tight spot now than ever, and Warkentien's own future with the club is murky. But keep in mind that Warkentien inherited a lot of the cap hell the Nuggets currently have. To make the team better under those circumstances is very impressive.


4.  Sam Presti, Thunder

Hired: 2007.

Coaches: P.J. Carlisemo (2007-2008), Scott Brooks (2008-present)

Long-term plan: Build around Kevin Durant and the rest of his young talent, using the salary-cap creatively to get it done.

Key draft picks: Durant (2nd, 2007), James Harden (3rd, 2009), Russell Westbrook (4th, 2008), Jeff Green (5th, 2007), Cole Aldrich (11th, 2010), Serge Ibaka (24th, 2008), Byron Mullens (24th, 2009),

Key trades:

    2007: Traded Ray Allen and the 35th pick to Celtics for the 5th pick, Wally Sczcerbiak and Delonte West.
    2009: Traded a first-round pick to Bulls for Thabo Sefolosha.
    2010: Traded the 21st and 26th picks to Hornets for the 11th pick and Morris Peterson.

Key free agent signings: Durant in 2010 (max contract), Nenad Kristic in 2008 (three years, $15 million), Thabo Sefolosha in 2009 (four years, $13 million).

Key free agents let go: Rashard Lewis (2007).

Presti is probably the most creative general manager in the league, and he continues to rip off fellow GMs with his unique strategy of using his salary-cap space to pick up draft picks and other young assets. He also consistently nails his draft picks, which is so hard for anyone to do, and has built a young, talented roster that is the envy of everyone.

But I can't put him No. 1 for two reasons. First of all, he has Kevin Durant. Presti completely lucked into Durant, and having a guy like him makes you look a whole lot better. This isn't to take away from Presti's genius long-term plan in building around him, but his strategy wouldn't result in this much success if Durant wasn't around.

Secondly, I strongly believe Presti needs to think about changing gears. His prized young players are all going to have to sign contract extensions, which will eliminate the cap space Presti has always prized. This summer may have been the last time Presti will have enough cap space to sign a piece to put his team over the top, and he declined to use it. With the Thunder now a successful team with a successful core, that could prove to be a mistake.

I'm nitpicking though. The reality is that Presti is one of the best in the business.


3.  Daryl Morey, Rockets

Hired: 2007

Coaches: Rick Adelman (2007-present)

Long-term plan: Build enough assets to eventually make a big move to bring in the superstar the team is missing.

Key draft picks: Patrick Patterson (14th, 2010), Aaron Brooks (26th, 2007), Carl Landry (31st, 2008).

Key trades:

    2007: Traded Vassilis Spanoulis and Jackie Butler to Spurs for the rights to Luis Scola.
    2008: Traded Jackson, Donte Greene and a future first-round pick to Kings for Ron Artest.
    2010 season: Traded Tracy McGrady's expiring contract to Knicks for Jared Jeffries, Jordan Hill, a 2012 first-round pick and the right to swap 2011 first-round picks.
    2010 season: Traded Carl Landry and Joey Dorsey to Kings for Kevin Martin and Hilton Armstrong.

Key free agent signings: Landry in 2008 (three years, $9 million), Trevor Ariza In 2009 (four years, $24 million), Scola in 2010 (five years, $47 million), Lowry in 2010 (four years, $24 million), Brad Miller in 2010 (three years, $15 million.

Key free agents let go: Artest.

Nobody gets more value with their decisions than Daryl Morey. He finds contributors in the draft in places nobody else does. He swindles other GMs in trades, picking up a boatload of assets that the other 29 GMs only dream they had. In short, there's very little he's done wrong.

Morey arrived on the scene having to deal with a top-heavy team without much of a supporting cast and without much prospect of improving. Now, he has a more balanced team with tons of assets and a ton of flexibility to improve. Going from Step 1 to Step 2 while maintaining an extremely successful team like he has is remarkably impressive.

Step 3 now is to do something with those assets, which is proving to be a challenge. But sometimes, that's how it works. To get that great player in a trade, you have to be lucky. The good news for Rockets fans is that Morey has put himself in a position where he and his team can get lucky.


2.  Kevin O'Connor, Jazz

Hired: 1999.

Coaches: Jerry Sloan (1999-present).

Long-term plan: Build a good team that fits Sloan's vision.

Key draft picks: Deron Williams (3rd, 2005), Gordon Hayward (9rd, 2010), Ronnie Brewer (14th, 2006), Kris Humphries (14th, 2004), Kirk Snyder (16th, 2004), Sasha Pavlovic (19th, 2003), Eric Maynor (20th, 2009), CJ Miles (34th, 2005), Paul Millsap (47th, 2006), Mo Williams (47th, 2003),

Key trades:

    2000: Traded Howard Eisley to the Mavericks, Adam Keefe to the Warriors and a first-round pick to the Celtics for Donyell Marshall.
    2010: Traded Kosta Koufus and a future first-round pick to the Timberwolves for Al Jefferson.

Key free agent signings: Carlos Boozer in 2004 (six years, $68 million), Mehmet Okur in 2004 and 2009 (six years, $40 million, two years, $21 million), Andrei Kirilenko in 2004 (maximum contract), Matt Harpring in 2006 (five years, $25 million), Deron Williams in 2008 (maximum contract).

Key free agents let go: Boozer (2010), Karl Malone (2003), Derek Fisher (2008).

O'Connor may be the most underappreciated GM in basketball. Nobody does a better job of sticking to a plan. O'Connor has committed to Jerry Sloan as his coach and finds players that perfectly fit his system. Players like Wesley Matthews, Paul Millsap, Ronnie Brewer, C.J. Miles, Carlos Boozer, Mehmet Okur, Matt Harpring and even Deron Williams would all have been successful elsewhere, but their success was magnified because they were all perfect fits for Sloan. O'Connor understands that you can't just throw together talent and expect it to jell. You have to find the right kind of talent, and for over a decade, he's done exactly that.

O'Connor has also done a great job managing the luxury tax, something that will always be an issue because Utah is a small market. Last season, he made cost-cutting moves that didn't affect his team's performance, then recovered from losing Carlos Boozer by trading for Al Jefferson. His one mistake was giving Andrei Kirilenko too much money in 2004, but otherwise, his record is impeccable.

The only thing lacking is a championship, but that's tough to do when you only get one top-five pick in a decade. O'Connor used that pick well, and he's made every last move count. That's the mark of a good GM.


1.  Pat Riley, Heat

Hired: 1995.

Coaches: Himself (1995-2003), Stan Van Gundy (2003-2005), himself (2005-2008), Erik Spolestra (2008-present)

Long-term plan: Create enough cap room to pull off the free agent coup of the century.

Key draft picks: Michael Beasley (2nd, 2008), Dwyane Wade (5th, 2003). 

Key trades: Too many to list

Key free agent signings: LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh in 2010

Key free agents let go: Does it matter?

Look, Pat Riley just pulled off the free agent coup of the decade (maybe of all time). It was a coup that required a level of long-term planning and creativity that no other GM is remotely capable of doing. I hate the guy, and he did get lucky, but he was also a genius. He has to top this list, and frankly, nobody comes close.


Full article:http://www.sbnation.com/2010/7/22/1582380/nba-general-manager-rankings-pat-riley-heat

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Re: NBA 2011 Offseason and/or Impending Lockout
« Reply #110 on: Jun 17, 2011 at 09:37 AM »
ok,im backing off dumars.

kahn should be fired first!

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Re: NBA 2011 Offseason and/or Impending Lockout
« Reply #111 on: Jun 17, 2011 at 09:38 AM »
Ainge must really like Green for some reason. Wasn't he the one who originally drafted him before trading him to Seattle for Ray Allen?

Jeff Green was the one wanted by Seattle iirc. The trade for Allen was made right before the start of the draft. So basically Ainge was drafting on behalf of Seattle.

Regarding the trade with the Thunder, Ainge originally wanted James Harden. OKC did not budge. So both GMs settled for Green.
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Re: NBA 2011 Offseason and/or Impending Lockout
« Reply #112 on: Jun 17, 2011 at 09:45 AM »
Jeff Green was the one wanted by Seattle iirc. The trade for Allen was made right before the start of the draft. So basically Ainge was drafting on behalf of Seattle.

Regarding the trade with the Thunder, Ainge originally wanted James Harden. OKC did not budge. So both GMs settled for Green.

Ah, so Ainge wanted Harden. It's definitely be interesting what could've happened if Harden did end with the Celtics instead of Green, or if Shaq was healthy in the playoffs.
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Re: NBA 2011 Offseason and/or Impending Lockout
« Reply #113 on: Jun 17, 2011 at 11:37 AM »
^ see? i missed that part wherein he signed Rip to another what,25M?

they should fire his ass! ;D

Rip was the franchise player then for DET so thats ok but by letting billups go dumars destroyed the team chemistry DET had for the past 4 yrs which led them to a title in 2003. ;) bad move for dumars, DET will rebuild in the next 3 yrs and most probably they will get rid of rip's 25M salary to open up cap space..

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« Reply #114 on: Jun 17, 2011 at 01:09 PM »
Rip was the franchise player then for DET so thats ok but by letting billups go dumars destroyed the team chemistry DET had for the past 4 yrs which led them to a title in 2003. ;) bad move for dumars, DET will rebuild in the next 3 yrs and most probably they will get rid of rip's 25M salary to open up cap space..

In defense of Dumars Rodney Stuckey looked very promising. He had to do some trades to bring younglegs to the Detroit Pistons. He was trying to maintain the level of talent for a longer period. Like other GMs you have to take the risk. I would go for Jordan as the worst and pat riley as best last season.  :)

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Re: NBA 2011 Offseason and/or Impending Lockout
« Reply #115 on: Jun 17, 2011 at 03:44 PM »
that being said,isnt it about time palitan na si dumars?

halatang nagmadali sya dun sa pagkuha nya kay CV and BG.either nagtipid nga dapat para sa cap space,or held on to his money longer until the grade A free agents came up.(may naging kaagaw man lang ba DET kay villanueva and gordon?)

he essentially outbid his own ass.

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Re: NBA 2011 Offseason and/or Impending Lockout
« Reply #116 on: Jun 17, 2011 at 05:01 PM »
Hindi pa kasi contender ang Bulls noon, kaya hindi nila priority si BG. Nagtipid ang Bulls para may cap space sila para sa summer of Lebron (they ended up with Boozer). Yung Pistons naman, imbes magtipid para magkaroon ng cap space para sa 2010 free agency, ginastos na lang nila kay Villanueva at BG nung 2009.

 Hindi si Larry Brown yung dahilan kung bakit unti-unting nawala ang Pistons kasi maganda naman yung record ni Flip Saunders na pumalit sa kanya. Nagsimula ata silang umasim nung tinrade nila si Billups para kay Iverson. Pagkatapos nun puro palpak na desisyon na ata ang ginawa ni Dumars.

ahhh yeah flip saunders ito ba yung sa timberwolves before( mali na naman yata ako hehehehe)

lahat yata ng dinaanan ni iverson nagulo eh sayang yung detroit after winning the champisonhip nawala na agad ang galing galing ni rip hamilton tapos bigla na lang nawala din.

by the way OT but would say din, apparently Iverson is willing to play in the PBA but for 3M dollars yata
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« Reply #117 on: Jun 17, 2011 at 05:13 PM »
The biggest and dumbest mistake made by Dumars was when he drafted Darko instead of a guy named Carmelo...dun pa lang dapat tinaggal na sya eh.
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« Reply #118 on: Jun 17, 2011 at 05:38 PM »
bka kung na draft ng pistons si melo bka di sila nagcahmpion vs lakers nun 2004...kasi si prince ska si melo magkakahatian ng oras...or bka itapon si prince that tiime....just my cent..

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Re: NBA 2011 Offseason and/or Impending Lockout
« Reply #119 on: Jun 17, 2011 at 05:45 PM »
ahhh yeah flip saunders ito ba yung sa timberwolves before( mali na naman yata ako hehehehe)

lahat yata ng dinaanan ni iverson nagulo eh sayang yung detroit after winning the champisonhip nawala na agad ang galing galing ni rip hamilton tapos bigla na lang nawala din.

by the way OT but would say din, apparently Iverson is willing to play in the PBA but for 3M dollars yata

Oo, si Flip yung coach ng Twolves nung panahon ni KG. Hindi sya kasing defensive-oriented ni Larry Brown pero mas creative sya offensively. Sa Washington Wizards na sya nagco-coach ngayon.

Si Iverson naman hindi nakapag-adjust na maging role player nung tumanda na sya, kaya wala nang team na nagtyatyaga sa kanya. Sa PBA na lang sya para star player uli sya. Mas bakaw pa kay Westbrook si Iverson nung prime niya.

The biggest and dumbest mistake made by Dumars was when he drafted Darko instead of a guy named Carmelo...dun pa lang dapat tinaggal na sya eh.

You mean Darko over Wade, Melo and Bosh? Actually interesting yan kasi nagchampion din  sila nung taon na na-draft nila si Darko. They beat the 2004 Superfriends Lakers in 5 games and one of the key players was Tayshaun Prince. Sa tingin mo magchchampion ba sila kung si Melo ang starter nung 2004 instead of Prince? Would they have had the same chemistry to beat a Superteam like the Lakers? Would they have made the trade to acquire  Rasheed Wallace if they already had an ace like Melo or Bosh or Wade?
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