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pao9307 · « **Reply #30 on:** Jun 14, 2011 at 11:20 AM »

Quote from: Wiggum on Jun 14, 2011 at 10:41 AM

^ Read somewhere that this is going to be a pretty shallow or weak draft, and lots of teams might just deal away their picks. But that Fredette guy from BYU looks like he's perfect for Utah. The Jazz need a scoring guard too.

is Fredette white?

he's a shoo in for utah then.

The Stig · « **Reply #31 on:** Jun 14, 2011 at 12:03 PM »

Quote from: sardaukar on Jun 13, 2011 at 06:35 PM

Exactly true. They need protection from themselves.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6649101/dizzying-highs-terrifying-lows

You know how I know this? Because the players made $2.1 billion dollars this year … and again the owners lost $300 million. Hold on, I have their $300 million right here: Vince Carter ($17.5m), Richard Hamilton ($12.5m), Baron Davis ($13m), Jose Calderon ($9m), Gilbert Arenas ($17.7m), Rashard Lewis ($19.6m), Michael Redd ($18.3m), Matt Carroll ($4.3m), Mike Dunleavy ($10.6m), Jason Kapono ($6.6m), Andrei Kirilenko ($17.8m), Marvin Williams ($7.2m), Jared Jeffries ($6.8m), Vlad Radmanovic ($6.8m), Hedo Turkoglu ($10.2m), Boris Diaw ($9m), Marcus Banks ($4.8m), Joel Pryzbilla ($7.4m), TJ Ford (8.5m), Darius Songalia ($4.8m), Andris Biedrins ($9m), Yao Ming ($17.7m), Sam Dalembert ($13.4m), Memo Okur ($9.9m), DeSagana Diop ($6.4m), Jermaine O'Neal ($5.7m), Eddy Curry ($11.2m), Dan Gadzuric ($7.2m), Troy Murphy ($11.9m).

Problem solved.

The Stig · « **Reply #32 on:** Jun 14, 2011 at 12:15 PM »

Maybe. I'm guessing these are 2011 figures. Bottomline it means don't overpay for these types of players.

sardaukar · « **Reply #33 on:** Jun 14, 2011 at 01:14 PM »

Quote from: The Stig on Jun 14, 2011 at 12:03 PM

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6649101/dizzying-highs-terrifying-lows

You know how I know this? Because the players made $2.1 billion dollars this year … and again the owners lost $300 million. Hold on, I have their $300 million right here: Vince Carter ($17.5m), Richard Hamilton ($12.5m), Baron Davis ($13m), Jose Calderon ($9m), Gilbert Arenas ($17.7m), Rashard Lewis ($19.6m), Michael Redd ($18.3m), Matt Carroll ($4.3m), Mike Dunleavy ($10.6m), Jason Kapono ($6.6m), Andrei Kirilenko ($17.8m), Marvin Williams ($7.2m), Jared Jeffries ($6.8m), Vlad Radmanovic ($6.8m), Hedo Turkoglu ($10.2m), Boris Diaw ($9m), Marcus Banks ($4.8m), Joel Pryzbilla ($7.4m), TJ Ford (8.5m), Darius Songalia ($4.8m), Andris Biedrins ($9m), Yao Ming ($17.7m), Sam Dalembert ($13.4m), Memo Okur ($9.9m), DeSagana Diop ($6.4m), Jermaine O'Neal ($5.7m), Eddy Curry ($11.2m), Dan Gadzuric ($7.2m), Troy Murphy ($11.9m).

Problem solved.

Is this Simmons again? Haven't read it. Wow 3 columns in the last week. How prolific of him. Will read now.

steelcrazy · « **Reply #34 on:** Jun 14, 2011 at 01:17 PM »

Gasol and Odom for Howard? i heard rumors there's a 3 way trade in the making.

Wiggum · « **Reply #35 on:** Jun 14, 2011 at 02:12 PM »

Quote from: pao9307 on Jun 14, 2011 at 11:20 AM

is Fredette white?

he's a shoo in for utah then.

Yep, he's Jeff Hornacek white.

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In the aftermath of Miami's implosion in the Finals, the rebuilding process begins. Target: Samuel Dalembert (LINK). And probably some therapy for Lebron.

Phobos · « **Reply #36 on:** Jun 14, 2011 at 02:20 PM »

Quote from: Wiggum on Jun 14, 2011 at 02:12 PM

Those people look like ants from up there. He must be 30 feet tall!

I have no grasp of the concept of perspective.

DVD_Freak · « **Reply #37 on:** Jun 14, 2011 at 03:30 PM »

Quote from: geckoph on Jun 14, 2011 at 03:23 PM

Do they have the moolah? I don't know if Dalembert (29 years young) will accept a minimum salary or Dalembert's current team (Sacramento, right?) will accept a sign-and-trade? Wala naman atang mga players (beyond the Big 3) na tatanggapin ng Sacramento. Usually, mga laos/pa-retiro na free agents ang tatanggap ng minimum salary, basta magkaroon lang ng Horcrux, este, Championship Ring.

If the CBA remains the same, Miami can use their MLE. That is if Dalembert accepts it.

rusty · « **Reply #38 on:** Jun 14, 2011 at 03:47 PM »

My Advice to Miami:

Trade Lebron back to Cleveland for Baron Davis/Varejao and the #4 Pick

leomarley · « **Reply #39 on:** Jun 14, 2011 at 03:55 PM »

Quote from: DVD_Freak on Jun 14, 2011 at 03:30 PM

If the CBA remains the same, Miami can use their MLE. That is if Dalembert accepts it.

Dalembert has already expressed his interest in the Miami Heat since he usually joins the team in relief efforts in earthquake stricken Haiti. he doesn't mind the pay cut what's important for him is he joins a team that can contend for the championship. Miami certainly meets two of Dalembert's criteria which according to him: “I want to play for a team that can win a championship. And a team that can run the fast break. Miami has a good one.”

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/06/14/2265200/miami-heat-seeks-center-eyes-samuel.html#ixzz1PF4rS6sH

Gob_Loves_Sony · « **Reply #40 on:** Jun 14, 2011 at 04:54 PM »

Quote from: Wiggum on Jun 14, 2011 at 02:12 PM

Yep, he's Jeff Hornacek white.

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In the aftermath of Miami's implosion in the Finals, the rebuilding process begins. Target: Samuel Dalembert (LINK). And probably some therapy for Lebron.

backcourt sila ni gordon hayward..

steelcrazy · « **Reply #41 on:** Jun 15, 2011 at 07:44 AM »

If u were Pat Riley, will you offer LBJ for Dwight Howard?

i guess this will be the best one for one trade of all time.

HD_MOVIES · « **Reply #42 on:** Jun 15, 2011 at 08:23 AM »

Wade for Howard..

steelcrazy · « **Reply #43 on:** Jun 15, 2011 at 10:09 AM »

Quote from: HD_MOVIES on Jun 15, 2011 at 08:23 AM

Wade for Howard..

Chalmers at point
Wade at off Guard
Bosh at small Forward
Haslem at power Forward
Howard at CENTER

Miller, Jones, Bibby, Anthony off the bench.

That will be an excellent line up for the Heat.

Munskie · « **Reply #44 on:** Jun 15, 2011 at 10:18 AM »

Quote from: steelcrazy on Jun 15, 2011 at 10:09 AM

Chalmers at point
Wade at off Guard
Bosh at small Forward
Haslem at power Forward
Howard at CENTER

Miller, Jones, Bibby, Anthony off the bench.

That will be an excellent line up for the Heat.

If this will ever happen....you put Bosh at PF, di sya SF. Either Miller or Jones play the 3, and Haslem is the first big man off the bench.

Wont happen though...as much as Lebron has shrinked in the Finals....they wont trade him. Pwedi pa si Bosh. What they need is someone in the mold of Tyson Chandler.....someone who will not look for shots, aggressive, shotblocking, rebounding Center. Nothing in the mold of Ilgaukas, not Dampier...not Magloire.

Problem of Heat is their salary cap is top loaded, so they wont have much leeway in signing free agents.....and it all depends on the new CBA.

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Heat nearly won on their first try though so I surmise they will stay put and just do some minor tweaks on the roster. Chicago will improve through experience, and New York might be relevant again. Boston cant be discounted too, so its no automatic berth for the Heat for a Finals return. They'll be seeded first though at the start of the season....

pao9307 · « **Reply #45 on:** Jun 15, 2011 at 10:33 AM »

i'm excited to see if NY lands CP3,though highly unlikely as they are way over the cap.but then again,di masama umasa.

Onkyo606 · « **Reply #46 on:** Jun 15, 2011 at 10:46 AM »

i think what the heat lacks in the championship series is a very competent point guard. taking aside the marvels of dirk, terry lbj, bosh and wade, the mavs got huge advantage in the PG side. the team is well orchestrated and does not panic easily as the ball movement rhough either barea or kidd is seamless

with the heat, when lbj oir wade brings down the ball, options become limited, while lbj opted to pass all the time, this is not the kind of passing you want to see in a game certainly not passing for better offense fluidity. maybe changes in the line up is not that necessarry yet as thye have gone to the finals anyway, perhaps having a true point guard would be a good action plan, if only mike bibby can be as good as when he was with sacramento or if they decide to have chalmers as the starting guard in the coming season

garee · « **Reply #47 on:** Jun 15, 2011 at 12:57 PM »

Lakers 2011-2012 starting five.

Guard - CP3
Guard - KB24
Center - AB17
Forward - DH12
Forward - RA15

steelcrazy · « **Reply #48 on:** Jun 15, 2011 at 01:06 PM »

Quote from: Munskie on Jun 15, 2011 at 10:18 AM

If this will ever happen....you put Bosh at PF, di sya SF. Either Miller or Jones play the 3, and Haslem is the first big man off the bench.

Wont happen though...as much as Lebron has shrinked in the Finals....they wont trade him. Pwedi pa si Bosh. What they need is someone in the mold of Tyson Chandler.....someone who will not look for shots, aggressive, shotblocking, rebounding Center. Nothing in the mold of Ilgaukas, not Dampier...not Magloire.

Problem of Heat is their salary cap is top loaded, so they wont have much leeway in signing free agents.....and it all depends on the new CBA.

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Heat nearly won on their first try though so I surmise they will stay put and just do some minor tweaks on the roster. Chicago will improve through experience, and New York might be relevant again. Boston cant be discounted too, so its no automatic berth for the Heat for a Finals return. They'll be seeded first though at the start of the season....

Thats also fine putting Bosh at power forward but since he's quite athletic and has a good shooting touch, he'll be better at small forward and let Haslem the power forward slot for hassle and defensive purposes. Thats only if Miami can have Howard to man the CENTER slot.

If Riley can trade LBJ for HOWARD, i'll bet on Miami next season.

We all know its close to impossible he he. . .but with WADE and BOSH on my team, I'll give up LBJ for a HOWARD playing at his prime.

oweidah · « **Reply #49 on:** Jun 15, 2011 at 01:28 PM »

only way to handle the big3...let pat riley coach the heat. hindi naman kasi issue ang kagalingan kundi ego yabang. hindi kaya ni spo rendahan esp yung dalawa.

HD_MOVIES · « **Reply #50 on:** Jun 15, 2011 at 01:32 PM »

Quote from: garee on Jun 15, 2011 at 12:57 PM

Lakers 2011-2012 starting five.

Guard - CP3
Guard - KB24
Center - AB17
Forward - DH12
Forward - RA15

Lolz! pwede na pumunta si LBJ jan as 6th man.. kahit MLE or veteran minimum..

Munskie · « **Reply #51 on:** Jun 15, 2011 at 02:43 PM »

Quote from: steelcrazy on Jun 15, 2011 at 01:06 PM

Thats also fine putting Bosh at power forward but since he's quite athletic and has a good shooting touch, he'll be better at small forward and let Haslem the power forward slot for hassle and defensive purposes. Thats only if Miami can have Howard to man the CENTER slot.

Problem is....he got burned by a slower Nowitzki so many times at the Finals....how can he guard opposing SFs, who are fast and more agile than he is......believe me, any coach in the NBA wont play Bosh at the 3.

And I see that lineup....if Im the opposing coach.......all ill do is pack the paint, cover the painted area and the midrange. With a legitimate SF who can shoot the 3 (Miller or Jones), defenders will play up to the 3pt area, spacing will be much better, more room to operate for Bosh and Howard. Bosh at the SF just doesnt make sense....especially in today's small ball era.

Sorry but i just dont see it....especially since Bosh had played much of his career playing the 4, and even 5 in some instances. But at the 3 spot?.....no.

jhelenz · « **Reply #52 on:** Jun 15, 2011 at 06:15 PM »

Quote from: steelcrazy on Jun 15, 2011 at 07:44 AM

If u were Pat Riley, will you offer LBJ for Dwight Howard?

i guess this will be the best one for one trade of all time.

the quesion is the magic will accept this trade.centers like howard are hard to come by this days.yes,if i were riley i will trade a player like lbj for a player like howard.napag champion nga ni wade miami befre with the ageing shaq,what more with howard.

jhelenz · « **Reply #53 on:** Jun 15, 2011 at 06:23 PM »

Quote from: Onkyo606 on Jun 15, 2011 at 10:46 AM

i think what the heat lacks in the championship series is a very competent point guard. taking aside the marvels of dirk, terry lbj, bosh and wade, the mavs got huge advantage in the PG side. the team is well orchestrated and does not panic easily as the ball movement rhough either barea or kidd is seamless

with the heat, when lbj oir wade brings down the ball, options become limited, while lbj opted to pass all the time, this is not the kind of passing you want to see in a game certainly not passing for better offense fluidity. maybe changes in the line up is not that necessarry yet as thye have gone to the finals anyway, perhaps having a true point guard would be a good action plan, if only mike bibby can be as good as when he was with sacramento or if they decide to have chalmers as the starting guard in the coming season

yung miami hindi kailangan ng typical point guard kasi like chicago nuon mdalas sila mj at pippen nagdadala ng bola.sa case ng miami wade and lbj likes to handle the ball alot.i think thats one of the reason kung bakit na trade si carlos arroyo for bibby.ganda sana kung nagkataon.arroyo vs barea,di ba puerto rican din si arroyo?sino kaya makakalamang kung sakali hindi na trade si arroyo?

jhelenz · « **Reply #54 on:** Jun 15, 2011 at 06:34 PM »

Quote from: ojofool on Jun 15, 2011 at 01:28 PM

only way to handle the big3...let pat riley coach the heat. hindi naman kasi issue ang kagalingan kundi ego yabang. hindi kaya ni spo rendahan esp yung dalawa.

correct ka dyan sir,miami has good outside shooters like house and jones.i wonder kung bakit di sila ginamit ng mas madalas ni spoelstra.kinabahan nga ko nung ginamit si house ng matagal nung game 6 lalo na nung nagpapapasok yung tira nya sa labas.sa kabaligtaran si carlisle nung nakita nya na hindi effective si stajokovic vs miami,mas ginamit nya si cardinal and it worked for dallas.so basically masasabi ko na di ganun kagaling si spoelstra pagdating sa ingame adjustment

Gob_Loves_Sony · « **Reply #55 on:** Jun 15, 2011 at 06:37 PM »

Quote from: jhelenz on Jun 15, 2011 at 06:15 PM

the quesion is the magic will accept this trade.centers like howard are hard to come by this days.yes,if i were riley i will trade a player like lbj for a player like howard.napag champion nga ni wade miami befre with the ageing shaq,what more with howard.

mukhang malabo bitawan ng heat si lbj...bka si bosh pede pa...
iba pa rin charisma ni lbj....dami nanood sa knya eh...lahat halos un nagaantay na matalo yun miami..jejejejeje....

dpogs · « **Reply #56 on:** Jun 15, 2011 at 06:44 PM »

Quote from: jhelenz on Jun 15, 2011 at 06:34 PM

correct ka dyan sir,miami has good outside shooters like house and jones.i wonder kung bakit di sila ginamit ng mas madalas ni spoelstra.kinabahan nga ko nung ginamit si house ng matagal nung game 6 lalo na nung nagpapapasok yung tira nya sa labas.sa kabaligtaran si carlisle nung nakita nya na hindi effective si stajokovic vs miami,mas ginamit nya si cardinal and it worked for dallas.so basically masasabi ko na di ganun kagaling si spoelstra pagdating sa ingame adjustment

unang taon ni c.erik na pangunahan ang isang NBA team... handling 2 or 3 egoistic players... and umabot sa finals...

its a big achievement para sa isang first time head coach...

dmaximus · « **Reply #57 on:** Jun 15, 2011 at 06:48 PM »

the big 2 (wade n bosh) and 3/4 (ehem) of miami will remain. i dont think any of them will allow it ti happen. they were together in this conspiracy. expect them to get a center. thats the missing piece. dont forget the knicks magbubuo yan for 2012

oweidah · « **Reply #58 on:** Jun 15, 2011 at 06:49 PM »

Quote from: dpogs on Jun 15, 2011 at 06:44 PM

unang taon ni c.erik na pangunahan ang isang NBA team... handling 2 or 3 egoistic players... and umabot sa finals...

its a big achievement para sa isang first time head coach...

....sibakin na yan! baka kung si jawo nag-thisisyou,thisisyou! nagchampion pa ang miami

oweidah · « **Reply #59 on:** Jun 15, 2011 at 07:06 PM »

Quote from: dmaximus on Jun 15, 2011 at 06:48 PM

the big 2 (wade n bosh) and 3/4 (ehem) of miami will remain. i dont think any of them will allow it ti happen. they were together in this conspiracy. expect them to get a center. thats the missing piece. dont forget the knicks magbubuo yan for 2012

miami dwade lbj cbosh win championships?......kung hindi magre-rebuild ang ibang east teams! siyempre alam na ng ibang teams ang lakas ng miami na kailangan nila tapatan. palagay ko kung mahuli na ng ibang teams ang kiliti ng miami, baka just another contender na lang sila.

sa west ganun din. expect a few shakes a mavs lineup to give one more ring for the tanders. it remains to be seen what future lies ahead for the mikebrown/kobe tandem in LA.

waitnsee first if there will be a next season.