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« Reply #2430 on: Mar 16, 2017 at 06:49 AM »
anong auto bro?

I think she was driving a honda civic hatchback.

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« Reply #2431 on: Mar 16, 2017 at 07:22 AM »
I think she was driving a honda civic hatchback.

ang liit ng kotse pala bro, she's lucky talaga.
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« Reply #2432 on: Mar 16, 2017 at 08:32 AM »
ang liit ng kotse pala bro, she's lucky talaga.

Yah thats why we know its a miracle. Even yung mga medics and police cant believe she survive the crash with minor injuries.

Actually di lang ako yung nag pray. There were 3 of us having the same conviction to pray that time.

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« Reply #2433 on: Apr 19, 2017 at 07:11 PM »
killing for the greater good may be okay. As indicated in the bible, God ordered to kill all, but one soldier took pity and spared woman and child. And for this he was punished.
You are right sir. That happened. And did you know why?
Because he did not follow God's command? Or because of the scorched earth policy of the Israelites. The move was more tactical than religious.

Medjo mahaba but please bear with me.

Taken from:

https://www.gotquestions.org/Amalekites.html

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Question: "Who were the Amalekites?"

Answer: The Amalekites were a tribe first mentioned during the time of Abraham (Genesis 14:7). Though the Amalekites are not mentioned in the table of nations in Genesis 10, in Numbers 24:20 they are referred to as “first among the nations.” Genesis 36 refers to the descendants of Amalek, the son of Eliphaz and grandson of Esau, as Amalekites (verses 12 and 16). So, the Amalekites were somehow related to, but distinct from, the Edomites.

Scripture records the long-lasting feud between the Amalekites and the Israelites and God’s direction to wipe the Amalekites off the face of the earth (Exodus 17:8–13; 1 Samuel 15:2; Deuteronomy 25:17). Why God would call His people to exterminate an entire tribe is a difficult question, but a look at history may give some insight.

Like many desert tribes, the Amalekites were nomadic. Numbers 13:29 places them as native to the Negev, the desert between Egypt and Canaan. The Babylonians called them the Sute, Egyptians the Sittiu, and the Amarna tablets refer to them as the Khabbati, or “plunderers.”

The Amalekites’ unrelenting brutality toward the Israelites began with an attack at Rephidim (Exodus 17:8–13). This is recounted in Deuteronomy 25:17–19 with this admonition: “Remember what the Amalekites did to you along the way when you came out of Egypt. When you were weary and worn out, they met you on your journey and attacked all who were lagging behind [typically women and children]: they had no fear of God. When the LORD your God gives you rest from all the enemies around you in the land he is giving you to possess as an inheritance, you shall blot out the name of Amalek from under heaven. Do not forget!”

The Amalekites later joined with the Canaanites and attacked the Israelites at Hormah (Numbers 14:45). In Judges they banded with the Moabites (Judges 3:13) and the Midianites (Judges 6:3) to wage war on the Israelites. They were responsible for the repeated destruction of the Israelites’ land and food supply.

In 1 Samuel 15:2–3, God tells King Saul, “I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them, put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.”

In response, King Saul first warns the Kenites, friends of Israel, to leave the area. He then attacks the Amalekites but does not complete the task. He allows the Amalekite King Agag to live, takes plunder for himself and his army, and lies about the reason for doing so. Saul’s rebellion against God and His commands is so serious that he is rejected by God as king (1 Samuel 15:23).

The escaped Amalekites continued to harass and plunder the Israelites in successive generations that spanned hundreds of years. First Samuel 30 reports an Amalekite raid on Ziklag, a Judean village where David held property. The Amalekites burned the village and took captive all the women and children, including two of David’s wives. David and his men defeated the Amalekites and rescued all the hostages. A few hundred Amalekites escaped, however. Much later, during the reign of King Hezekiah, a group of Simeonites “killed the remaining Amalekites” who had been living in the hill country of Seir (1 Chronicles 4:42–43).

The last mention of the Amalekites is found in the book of Esther where Haman the Agagite, a descendant of the Amalekite king Agag, connives to have all the Jews in Persia annihilated by order of King Xerxes. God saved the Jews in Persia, however, and Haman, his sons, and the rest of Israel’s enemies were destroyed instead (Esther 9:5–10).

The Amalekites’ hatred of the Jews and their repeated attempts to destroy God’s people led to their ultimate doom. Their fate should be a warning to all who would attempt to thwart God’s plan or who would curse what God has blessed (see Genesis 12:3).

It was both tactical and religious in nature sir.

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2434 on: Apr 20, 2017 at 06:09 AM »
Medjo mahaba but please bear with me.

Taken from:
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It was both tactical and religious in nature sir.

Much more than that. The reason God wants to wipe out Amalekites, Canaanites, Rephaites, Ammonites, and other tribes (but not all tribes right) because they are nephilims(half human and half something else). They are abominations before God with corrupted genes.  Israelites call them Amalekites meaning "vampire-like demons".  And God wants to preserve humanity for the coming of His Son Jesus. 

Its the same reason God wipes out everyone and only preserve Noah and his families because they are pure human dna.  Bible says Jesus coming is just like the days of Noah. Did you notice cosmetic surgeries, dna manipulations, cross-breeding are now mainstream.
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« Reply #2435 on: Apr 27, 2017 at 02:02 AM »
Much more than that. The reason God wants to wipe out Amalekites, Canaanites, Rephaites, Ammonites, and other tribes (but not all tribes right) because they are nephilims(half human and half something else). They are abominations before God with corrupted genes.  Israelites call them Amalekites meaning "vampire-like demons".  And God wants to preserve humanity for the coming of His Son Jesus. 

Its the same reason God wipes out everyone and only preserve Noah and his families because they are pure human dna.  Bible says Jesus coming is just like the days of Noah. Did you notice cosmetic surgeries, dna manipulations, cross-breeding are now mainstream.


hmmm... can you give us Bible reference na nagsasabing there are half-human and half-'whatever' (demon, animals, alien) and I just want to confirm - Did God destroy all except Noah because they have pure human DNA? and the rest doesn't have pure human DNA?
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2436 on: Apr 27, 2017 at 04:16 AM »
hmmm... can you give us Bible reference na nagsasabing there are half-human and half-'whatever' (demon, animals, alien) and I just want to confirm - Did God destroy all except Noah because they have pure human DNA? and the rest doesn't have pure human DNA?

Numbers 13

Report on the Exploration
26 They came back to Moses and Aaron and the whole Israelite community at Kadesh in the Desert of Paran. There they reported to them and to the whole assembly and showed them the fruit of the land. 27 They gave Moses this account: “We went into the land to which you sent us, and it does flow with milk and honey! Here is its fruit. 28 But the people who live there are powerful, and the cities are fortified and very large. We even saw descendants of Anak there. 29 The Amalekites live in the Negev; the Hittites, Jebusites and Amorites live in the hill country; and the Canaanites live near the sea and along the Jordan.”

30 Then Caleb silenced the people before Moses and said, “We should go up and take possession of the land, for we can certainly do it.”

31 But the men who had gone up with him said, “We can’t attack those people; they are stronger than we are.” 32 And they spread among the Israelites a bad report about the land they had explored. They said, “The land we explored devours those living in it. All the people we saw there are of great size. 33 We saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak come from the Nephilim). We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them.”

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2437 on: Apr 27, 2017 at 04:56 AM »
hmmm... can you give us Bible reference na nagsasabing there are half-human and half-'whatever' (demon, animals, alien) and I just want to confirm - Did God destroy all except Noah because they have pure human DNA? and the rest doesn't have pure human DNA?

Madami kung babasahin ang bibliya. And trace the genealogies of the races mentioned you will know.

Anyway, even sa wiki you find some info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephilim


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« Reply #2438 on: Apr 27, 2017 at 05:03 AM »
Numbers 13

Report on the Exploration
26 They came back to Moses and Aaron and the whole Israelite community at Kadesh in the Desert of Paran. There they reported to them and to the whole assembly and showed them the fruit of the land. 27 They gave Moses this account: “We went into the land to which you sent us, and it does flow with milk and honey! Here is its fruit. 28 But the people who live there are powerful, and the cities are fortified and very large. We even saw descendants of Anak there. 29 The Amalekites live in the Negev; the Hittites, Jebusites and Amorites live in the hill country; and the Canaanites live near the sea and along the Jordan.”

30 Then Caleb silenced the people before Moses and said, “We should go up and take possession of the land, for we can certainly do it.”

31 But the men who had gone up with him said, “We can’t attack those people; they are stronger than we are.” 32 And they spread among the Israelites a bad report about the land they had explored. They said, “The land we explored devours those living in it. All the people we saw there are of great size. 33 We saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak come from the Nephilim). We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them.”

thank you.

Madami kung babasahin ang bibliya. And trace the genealogies of the races mentioned you will know.

Anyway, even sa wiki you find some info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephilim



well... the Bible does not specifically give us the answer if indeed "Nephlim" and/or "sons of God" some sort of hybrid human - presumably half-human half-angels (fallen angels)...
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2439 on: Apr 27, 2017 at 05:10 AM »
well... the Bible does not specifically give us the answer if indeed "Nephlim" and/or "sons of God" some sort of hybrid human - presumably half-human half-angels (fallen angels)...

English translation does not.  Hebrew and Greek (original language of the bible) has much deeper and broader context in every word compared to english. Some hebrew/greek word cannot be translated directly to english. 

However, english translation is sufficient to convey the message of salvation. You need to study the bible in its original language in order to get the full picture.

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« Reply #2440 on: Apr 27, 2017 at 05:23 AM »
English translation does not.  Hebrew and Greek (original language of the bible) has much deeper and broader context in every word compared to english. Some hebrew/greek word cannot be translated directly to english. 

However, english translation is sufficient to convey the message of salvation. You need to study the bible in its original language in order to get the full picture.


there are two stronger views regarding sa kugn sino nga ba ang mga "sons of God"
1> fallen angels
2> line of seth

when it comes to salvation view 2 is more applicable.
when it comes to salvation - God destroys everyone except for Noah and his family because of human sins (not because fallen angels married to daughter of men)

we don't believe in evolution because God created human (animals, plants all other living things) after their kind. human begat human and dogs begat dogs. not believing in evolution but believing in crossbreeding between human and demon (fallen angels) ? ? ? :):):)

God created everyone with their physical limitation (only God can break this limitation) - human can/will only produce human, dog can/will produce dog, gumamela can/will produce gumamela, but I never read or heard that angels can produce angels... tao pa kaya.

Ex. Jesus when he was born He is full human - not half human half God. :) :)
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2441 on: Apr 27, 2017 at 07:58 AM »
people like to live and dwell on the past.....
when it was very clear that before Jesus died on the cross
the last suffer happened, there was breaking of the bread
and sharing of wine, and this represented His body and blood
and his life that will have to given up so that sins are forgiven...
Jesus was the sacrificial lamb that had to be slaughtered
so that all the prophecies about Him is full filled....

at the same gathering, Jesus commanded his disciples,
love one another as i have loved you....
to me this is at the hearth of our being christians......
nothing more, nothing less....
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2442 on: Apr 27, 2017 at 08:55 AM »
Question. If God wanted to get rid of beings with not so pure human DNA, why didn't he do it ala "passover"? Why flood?

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2443 on: Apr 28, 2017 at 01:00 AM »
Question. If God wanted to get rid of beings with not so pure human DNA, why didn't he do it ala "passover"? Why flood?
I think hindi lang humans ang kailangan mawala but pati animals din although He chose specific animals. Although I think there is no human being who can comprehend the mind of God, the flood is a logical choice over "passover" if pati animals were to be eliminated. We can also view the use of water sa flood as a symbol of cleansing. Wala pa kasing rain that time prior to the great flood.

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« Reply #2444 on: Apr 28, 2017 at 06:20 AM »
Question. If God wanted to get rid of beings with not so pure human DNA, why didn't he do it ala "passover"? Why flood?

I think hindi lang humans ang kailangan mawala but pati animals din although He chose specific animals. Although I think there is no human being who can comprehend the mind of God, the flood is a logical choice over "passover" if pati animals were to be eliminated. We can also view the use of water sa flood as a symbol of cleansing. Wala pa kasing rain that time prior to the great flood.

Totally agree with Bro.Nelson.

And also, these are types and shadows of God's order. In John 3:5 "Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of WATER and the SPIRIT (symbolizes by FIRE), he cannot enter the kingdom of God."

The next rebirth for Earth and Mankind is no longer by WATER but by FIRE.  And  then God's kingdom will be fully re-established on Earth.

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« Reply #2445 on: Apr 28, 2017 at 06:35 AM »
people like to live and dwell on the past.....
when it was very clear that before Jesus died on the cross
the last suffer happened, there was breaking of the bread
and sharing of wine, and this represented His body and blood
and his life that will have to given up so that sins are forgiven...
Jesus was the sacrificial lamb that had to be slaughtered
so that all the prophecies about Him is full filled....

at the same gathering, Jesus commanded his disciples,
love one another as i have loved you....
to me this is at the hearth of our being christians......
nothing more, nothing less....

This is the way of life for every Christians. But not the way to eternal life. 

John 3:16 is very clear when it says "... that whosoever believes in him [Jesus] shall not perish but have eternal life".

Loving God and loving people is the fruit(not the root) of your salvation(which is faith in the Lord Jesus).
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2446 on: Apr 28, 2017 at 06:46 AM »
who wants eternal life? why is it such a big deal?
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« Reply #2447 on: Apr 28, 2017 at 07:00 AM »
who wants eternal life? why is it such a big deal?

why eternal life is such a big deal? if we based it on your post:

First, we cant genuinely break bread and share wine with Jesus if we don't have Eternal Life.
Second, we cant love one another if we don't have eternal life (experience Jesus love - "as I have loved you")
Third, for us to have a genuine Christian heart

we can't live a Christian life if in the first place if we don't have eternal life (if we are not Christian).
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« Reply #2448 on: Apr 28, 2017 at 09:49 AM »
I think hindi lang humans ang kailangan mawala but pati animals din although He chose specific animals. Although I think there is no human being who can comprehend the mind of God, the flood is a logical choice over "passover" if pati animals were to be eliminated. We can also view the use of water sa flood as a symbol of cleansing. Wala pa kasing rain that time prior to the great flood.

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No rain ever? And the rain flooded the planet? Where did all the water come from?

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« Reply #2449 on: Apr 28, 2017 at 11:01 AM »
Genesis 2:4-6 "says 4 This is the history of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens, 5 before any plant of the field was in the earth and before any herb of the field had grown. For the Lord God had not caused it to rain on the earth, and there was no man to till the ground; 6 but a mist went up from the earth and watered the whole face of the ground."

It was only until Noah where God bursted the firmament above the earth for the rain to fall.

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« Reply #2450 on: Apr 28, 2017 at 11:36 AM »
Next question. Where did all the water go?

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« Reply #2451 on: Apr 28, 2017 at 04:03 PM »
No rain ever? And the rain flooded the planet? Where did all the water come from?

1. There is water above the firmanent
1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst 5of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. Genesis

2. Therr is water underground
7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. Genesis

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« Reply #2452 on: Apr 28, 2017 at 10:40 PM »
So the land was floating on water?

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« Reply #2453 on: Apr 28, 2017 at 11:42 PM »
So the land was floating on water?
I'm every culture there has been a flood that devastated everything. Before we proceed? If I may humbly ask if you're looking for a theoretical/scientific answer? If you, I haven't done any but I can do some research for you. But if its a "faith" based question, then my answer would be that I do not find it impossible for a powerful God to make, create and flood the earth with water. However, there are current discoveries of water tunnels under the earth all around the world. If we have geisers and water springs, we may conclude that said water tunnels exist and that it is not imposible that it has already existed in the past.

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« Reply #2454 on: Apr 29, 2017 at 07:44 AM »
Any kind of answer will do.

How can there be a great flood from in every culture when according to bible they all should have been wiped out? Or if the flood story was just passed down to them by noah, how come noah's forgotten by these cultures?

Where did all the water go?
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« Reply #2455 on: Apr 29, 2017 at 12:54 PM »
Any kind of answer will do.

How can there be a great flood from in every culture when according to bible they all should have been wiped out? Or if the flood story was just passed down to them by noah, how come noah's forgotten by these cultures?

Where did all the water go?

Why people or other culture forgotten Noahs flood? Dyan pumapasok si Satan. The same reason why too many religion exist. Satan is a master and very well versed in God's word. Satan can twist the word of God to create confusion among peole. To answer your question it is the works of Satan why people forgot about Noahs flood. Panigurado ako we also forgot why theres a rainbow :) :).

Where did all the water go? Take a look around you, lakes rivers streams seas oceans north/sout pole ice etc. It doesnt "go" the flood water stays :) :) :)
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« Reply #2456 on: Apr 29, 2017 at 01:57 PM »
Oh si satan. So satan knows the word of god. How do you know your version of noah is not satan's doing?

Re water. Are you saying the earth' crust was flat back then and trenches were created to accommodate all the water?

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« Reply #2457 on: Apr 29, 2017 at 03:24 PM »
Oh si satan. So satan knows the word of god. How do you know your version of noah is not satan's doing?

Re water. Are you saying the earth' crust was flat back then and trenches were created to accommodate all the water?

Yes. Satan from the begining use the word of God and twist it to deceive adam and eve. :)

I consider the Bible as the final authority of my beleif and the very own word of God. By faith. :) You may ask me if how i am sure that the Bible is the very own Gods word not Satans - my simple answer will be BY FAITH :) For without faith it is impossible to please God. :)

The Bible never mentioned specifically the exact topography of earth before noah flood but one thing i am sure back then earths topograhpy is near perfect.

Also i mentioned the rainbow. It is significant because its a covenant between God man and animals. God promised that destructiom by water will never happen again and I believe durinf the 1 year flood God changes earth topography so that great flood will never happen again. :)
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2458 on: Apr 29, 2017 at 03:38 PM »
who wants eternal life? why is it such a big deal?

Immortality means different to different people.

Religious people are usually betting that there is life after death. The life where all their memories and feelings are preserved and just goes on another plane of existence.


Not to be rude or anything. But this  Religious gamble has been played for thousands of years.   You can make anyone believe anything or do anything if you threaten their immortality.

That is why the concept of hell, heaven and purgatory is soo appealing to a lot of people especially the  ones that wants the easy way. 


It is a personal choice to gamble your existential now  for some future nirvana or reward.  But one thing that we should think of IMHO is why we view our present planet or  earth as a temporary way point on to some journey that no one has came back or seen.

Without logic or anything. It just basically does not make any sense.   

Things would be different if people rationally. And think of our planet as the only place you will be at from birth to death and nothing after for sure.   Humanity will be better off.

Less people strapping bombs on themselves blowing themselves up in exchange for the promise of entry to heaven.   Or  making people doing weird crap because  someone told them that a "God" directly is communicating with them.


 

Personally for me it is a con played on millions of people. 

It makes me cringe when ever someone would insinuate  or directly say  that someone is going to "hell" or a horrible place because you offended  "God" Or supernatural being of their own invention by doing something.  Or say you are going to heaven because you did this and that. 

Who are they to say anyway? Their word is as good as anyone actually. It is just a wild shot in a dark.







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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2459 on: Apr 29, 2017 at 03:49 PM »
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Personally for me it is a con played on millions of people. 

And the master con artist since the beginning - the Serpent :) :) so successful that there exists too many religion creating chaos confusion and bring people to love their own flesh and focus on temporary rather than eternal things. :) :)

It is my beleif that Satan still active today deceiving people using  world leaders celebreties material things radical faith terrorist extremist etc

There is none righteous, no not one.