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Re: Konzert AVR
« Reply #330 on: May 01, 2010 at 07:45 PM »
Talaga kaya na kaya nya i drive 500w x 2 na speakers? Nakalagay kasi sa likod ng 502A. Considering na magaan lang sya. Compared sa ibang amp. What makes this amp powerful?

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Re: Konzert AVR
« Reply #331 on: May 09, 2010 at 02:37 PM »
may problem po ako sa konzert 502a ngsstop siya parang yung ngjujump CD dahil ba overloaded siya? kasi 2pcs 15" targa 500w 4ohms DVC subwoofer for base & 2pcs targa 12" 400w 8 ohms instrumental and 2pcs dai 1chi 200w 8 ohms horn tweeter gamit ko..

need ko ba palitan ng power amp or may wiring techniques para di maoverload? if yes po any idea po magkano power amp kayang idrive speaker ko..
any suggestion guys..thanks a lot..

naitry po yung 1 15" and 1 12" and 1 tweeter po very smooth po yung tunog and wlang naging problem so overload nga po cguro...
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Re: Konzert AVR
« Reply #332 on: May 09, 2010 at 04:00 PM »
hi sabati,
 just want to clarify ; for a single channel ba yung 2pcs 15" targa subwoofer at 2 pcs 12" instrumental at 2 pcs horn tweeter? If pang isang channel lang yan, it would be too much for the amp to handle.
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Re: Konzert AVR
« Reply #333 on: May 09, 2010 at 08:09 PM »
hi sabati,
 just want to clarify ; for a single channel ba yung 2pcs 15" targa subwoofer at 2 pcs 12" instrumental at 2 pcs horn tweeter? If pang isang channel lang yan, it would be too much for the amp to handle.

magkasama po yung 1 -12" and - 1 tweeter hiwalay po yung 15"
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Re: Konzert AVR
« Reply #334 on: May 10, 2010 at 11:11 AM »
4 ohms yung sub mo? kaya nag kakaganun eh dahil mahina ang impedance ng sub mo, dapat mga 8ohms. bute may built in control yang 502A ng hindi masunog speakers mo.

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Re: Konzert AVR
« Reply #335 on: May 10, 2010 at 02:12 PM »
4 ohms yung sub mo? kaya nag kakaganun eh dahil mahina ang impedance ng sub mo, dapat mga 8ohms. bute may built in control yang 502A ng hindi masunog speakers mo.

dual voice coil po sya iseries ko po ba para maging 8ohms sya?

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Re: Konzert AVR
« Reply #336 on: May 10, 2010 at 11:58 PM »
magkasama po yung 1 -12" and - 1 tweeter hiwalay po yung 15"

More Clarifications brod;

1) Ano po kinabit mo sa Left Channel at ano sa Right Channel?

2) My suggestion, for a better impedance handling use a dividing network.. you can series the 2 coils of your sub to have an 8 ohms impedance.
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Re: Konzert AVR
« Reply #337 on: May 11, 2010 at 06:57 PM »
benta ko nlang po yung 15" targa speaker ko...
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Re: Konzert AVR
« Reply #338 on: Jun 04, 2010 at 01:36 PM »
up... just finished back reading.. btw i'm new here po.

good day guys, i already posted an inquiry kaya lang inactive na yata yung thread, and i already started my own thread pero wala pa ren nakakapagreply, so i decided to post here.

i have a few questions, maybe i have read it already but missed the idea, sana me makatulong,

1. i understand na malakas yung konzert av-502a, tanong ko lang kung kaya nyang idrive yung 2 pairs of kss10, bale 2 front and 2 rear? or merun ba kayong masa-suggest na better ampli within the same price range na may additional features like fm, dd, dts, prologic, etc?

2. ano yung masa-suggest nyo na center and sub for this? maybe it will add it along the way, kasi yung balak ko yung ampli lang muna tska yung 4 speakers kasi di pa kasya sa budget pag lahat kagad.

3. i will use it outdoors sa socialhall, mainly for loud music playing, watching movies and videoke na ren. pag gagamitin ko ito pang videoke, merun pa bang kelangan idagdag na equipment aside from mics?

4. if i decided to choose other speaker like the ks-650v is it possible to add tweeters? how can i do it, merun bang device na idadagdag?

5. in playing music, lalabas ba yung audio sa lahat ng speakers connected? or stereo lang?

comments will be greatly appreciated, medyo lengthy po yung questions ko pero sana matulungan nyo po ako, newbie pa lang po kasi ako sa mga ganito sana maenlighten nyo ako, thank you pinoydvd and more power!
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Re: Konzert AVR
« Reply #339 on: Nov 06, 2010 at 03:48 PM »
MAHUSAY TALAGA  itong konzert 502a. set up ko dito 2x15" Konzert PRO800w instrumental at 2x15" JBL GTO-15.
perwisyo na sa kapit bahay.. hehe ;)

kaya ba ito talaga mga paps? gusto ko rin sanang dagdagan
yung sa akin eh..(pair of kss-12 at 500w each) yan yung 12" version
ng kss-10... nakasaksak sila sa speaker/channel A so bakante pa yung
speaker/channel B... gusto ko sanang dagdagan pa ng mga bagong labas
na konzert indoor/outdoor speakers raging from 400 to 500w... kaya pa ba?
btw... planning to add an active/powered sub too pero mga 160 to 200w
power lang... panundot lang... kahit DIY suggestions ay welcome din po... TIA!!








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eto medyo sagot sa tanong ko...

share ko lang...
para medyo rekta ang source kaso
bitin pa rin eh heheh...

nag email ako sa Micro Industries (konzert) China
manufacturing site ng konzert..

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To Whom This May Concern;


Hello, I hope anybody can help me with this...

I recently bought a konzert av-502a amplifier
and paired it with 2 konzert kss-12 speakers - 450-500w each

I hook the 2 kss-12 at the Speaker A
one at the R(right) and one at the L(left)

then choosing A as channel in use.

so the Speaker B is still vacant...

Can i add another pair of speakers on Speaker B?
like a pair of either KSS-350v or KSS-450v?

then choose A + B as channel in use.

Is it too much(overloaded)?

If it is... what, how many or how much
speaker power can you suggest that i
can still put on the L & R of Speaker B

and use them all by choosing A + B channel?

sorry coz the Konzert av-502A manual have
no specific intructions on its power output...
it's just say 500W + 500W - 8ohms...
and i don't know if the amplifier is in bridge,
series or in paralle
l... I hope somebody would
enlighten me on this...

Thanx In Advance...



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Dear sirs,
Our engineer advise that, you can add a pair of KS-350V on Speaker B, it's ok.
Regards,
Jane


pero syempre bago kayo magsalpak ng additional speakers
basahin nyo rin muna mga post ng mga gurus natin dito or sa ibang site

btw... kung mag-eemail din kayo baka sa spam box nyo
rin bumagsak yung reply kasi yung name nung sender ay
chinese characters... so don't delete agad... hth...


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Newbie Question
« Reply #340 on: Nov 13, 2010 at 01:42 PM »
Hello po sa lahat!

Mga Sir, question naman, gusto ko pa kasi magkaron ng decent setup lang
Main use will be for karaoke lang po at for music, di po cguro masyado pang movies.
Eto po ung nakita ko sa abenson (or I am sure sa raon meron din)

KONZERT AMPLI AV-502A (4,099 sa Abenson)
KONZERT SPEAKER KS-252V (3,399) or KONZERT SPEAKER KS-252V (4,099 Abenson)

Pwede na po ba na ampli at speaker lang? To follow na lang cguro ung subwoofer wala pa kasi budget

Pasensya na po ha wala ako masyado alam sa mga ganito e.
Meron ako dati uncle na mahilig sa ganito kaya lang out of the country na sya kaya di ko matanong.

Thank you po sa mga sasagot!

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Re: Newbie Question
« Reply #341 on: Nov 14, 2010 at 07:51 PM »
Hello po sa lahat!

Mga Sir, question naman, gusto ko pa kasi magkaron ng decent setup lang
Main use will be for karaoke lang po at for music, di po cguro masyado pang movies.
Eto po ung nakita ko sa abenson (or I am sure sa raon meron din)

KONZERT AMPLI AV-502A (4,099 sa Abenson)
KONZERT SPEAKER KS-252V (3,399) or KONZERT SPEAKER KS-252V (4,099 Abenson)

Pwede na po ba na ampli at speaker lang? To follow na lang cguro ung subwoofer wala pa kasi budget

Pasensya na po ha wala ako masyado alam sa mga ganito e.
Meron ako dati uncle na mahilig sa ganito kaya lang out of the country na sya kaya di ko matanong.

Thank you po sa mga sasagot!


Sir yanskee pwede na po yan pang videoke kasi po yung speaker na yan is a two way 250W speaker ang downside lang po nyan is wala masyadong bass hindi ganon kalalim kasi po design yang speaker na yan for hanging eh.. you can pair it with a konzert sub kahit yung ks10 or 12 para macompensate nya yung bass.

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Re: Newbie Question
« Reply #342 on: Nov 16, 2010 at 09:39 PM »
Hello po sa lahat!

Mga Sir, question naman, gusto ko pa kasi magkaron ng decent setup lang
Main use will be for karaoke lang po at for music, di po cguro masyado pang movies.
Eto po ung nakita ko sa abenson (or I am sure sa raon meron din)

KONZERT AMPLI AV-502A (4,099 sa Abenson)
KONZERT SPEAKER KS-252V (3,399) or KONZERT SPEAKER KS-252V (4,099 Abenson)

Pwede na po ba na ampli at speaker lang? To follow na lang cguro ung subwoofer wala pa kasi budget

Pasensya na po ha wala ako masyado alam sa mga ganito e.
Meron ako dati uncle na mahilig sa ganito kaya lang out of the country na sya kaya di ko matanong.

Thank you po sa mga sasagot!


I won't recommend it paps!!  hindi tatagal yang speaker na ks-252v sa av-502a...
kung konzert av-302 amp pwede pa...  pero di ko pa rin recommended...
mas maganda kung konzert ks-450V or kss-10 kung sa av-302a ipapares kasi po
masyadong mahina yan... baka mabitin ka... pero oks na rin kung para sa merong
maliliit ang space sa bahay... wag na wag lang i-pair po sa av-502a... pag accidentally
na natotodo or napapalakasan lang lagi ay sira po yan... maliit kasi capacity...

nga pala bakit parehong ks-252v yung example/question mo po..?
baka po may mali sa post nyo po, baka po ks-450v yung isang speaker..?

av-302 -- indoor
av-502a -- indoor/outdoor

recommended initial set-up...

av-302
+
pair of ks-252v or
pair of ks-350v or
pair of ks-450v or
pair of kss-10(3-way speaker)

av-502a
+
pair of ks-450v or
pair of ks-550v or
pair of ks-650v or
pair of ks-652v(outdoor speakers) or
pair of ks-800 or
pair of kss-12(3-way speaker)

mahina to malakas/maganda yan...

then pag meron uling budget... add ka ng konzert sub din heheh...

eto link -- http://www.konzert.net.cn/en/products.asp?TypeName=KARAOKE%20SPEAKER%20SYSTEM

hth...
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Re: Konzert AVR
« Reply #343 on: Nov 23, 2010 at 05:03 AM »
Quote
recommended initial set-up...

av-302
+
pair of ks-252v or
pair of ks-350v or
pair of ks-450v or
pair of kss-10(3-way speaker)

Ano po magandang subwoofer for this setup?considered na home theater na po ba ito? thanks!

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Re: Konzert AVR
« Reply #344 on: Nov 23, 2010 at 05:24 PM »
Ano po magandang subwoofer for this setup?considered na home theater na po ba ito? thanks!

paps pang sounds lang yan and indoor videoke, not HT
pag pang home theater at konzert din ay merong av-500R,
yung Sakura brand ay mas maraming model...

kung pang sounds... mere-recommend ko lang ay kung
de-dose(12") mga main speakers mo ay de-diyes(10") ang
kunin mong subwoofer at kung 10" ang main ay 8" ang kunin
mo para mas maging purpose talaga nung subwoofer ay
panundot lang... pero kung pambulabog ang habol mo ay
ay yung kasinglaki or mas malaki sa main ang kunin mong
active/powered subwoofer... imho...

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Re: Konzert AVR
« Reply #345 on: Dec 06, 2010 at 11:43 AM »
mga masters.... nalibot ko na buong RAON para humanap ng konzert KSS-10 or 12 ippair ko sana sa konzert 502... san po kaya ang iba pang dealer nito maliban sa raon...??? or anu pa po maganda pam videoke na speaker.... tulong naman po.... budget ko 6-8K lang.... tnx...tnx....

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Re: Konzert AVR
« Reply #346 on: Dec 12, 2010 at 01:50 PM »
paps gamit ko ay pair ng konzert kss-12
pang- videoke at pang sounds at kahit
pang-movie ay panalo!! 3-way kasi sya
w/ Xover
kaya maganda ang seperation ng tunog.. ;D

kss-10 ay yung smaller version nya... 6,500 pares na..
yung kss-12 ay 4,050 isang piraso, kaya 8,100 pares..
mas maganda para sa akin ang buga ng mga de-dose for
personal use kaya mas prefer ko yung kss-12... balak ko rin yung
kss-10 para add ko pang outdoor... i'm still not sure lang kasi kung
kaya pang i-handle ng konzert av-502a amp ko eh heheh...

mula ng binili ko yung kss-12 ay di pumasok sa isip ko yung mga katagang...
ang pangit..., parang gusto kong palitan.., mali ang bili ko.., etc... heheh...

at kung di ka naman mahilig sa super kalabog ay tamang-tama
lang din sya kasi kaya namang palabasin yung bass nya thru the amp..
kaya no need na para sa akin to add an active/powered subwoofer... imho ha..

btw... per order basis talaga yang kss model kaya swerte mo na makakita ng
display for audition/sound test... wala rin akong nakitang may stock nyan for
display dyan sa raon... nilibot ko na halos lahat ng store heheh...
pero dito sa'min sa Cavite ay mayroon... sa Lotus Imus... near entrance...
duon ako nag sound test/audition... pero di me duon bumili heheh...

hth...
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Re: Konzert AVR
« Reply #347 on: Dec 16, 2010 at 08:12 AM »
pwde bang i-series connection KW3000m 12" subwoofer?

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Re: Konzert AVR
« Reply #348 on: Dec 17, 2010 at 04:21 PM »
mga kuya tanong ko lang po bkit d magkasing lakas ung sound ng speaker ko..???
-SPEAKER A po xa nkakabit mas malakas ung left kesa po sa right ganon po b talaga ung konzert 502-A

DAI-1CHI po speaker ko 130 watss lang po..
KONZERT 502-A nmn po amplie ko...


PLZ paki sagot nmn po tanong ko
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Re: Konzert AVR
« Reply #349 on: Dec 22, 2010 at 11:42 PM »
 :-\ hello po sa lahat.... gusto ko lang pong ipa.alam sa lahat na totoo palang may pirated na konzert 502a hehehe just saw some of those pirated yesterday... tiningnan ko yung pagkalagay ng parts sa loob nung nabili ko sa sm appliance at dun sa nkita kung pirated, magka.iba po yung pagkakalagay ng components sa loob, pati yung appearance mahahalata mo, khit yung logo ng konzert pangit. di tulad nung nabili ko sa sm... maayos lahat.. kaya siguro maraming nag sasabi na defective yung konzert kasi pirated yung nabili nila... hehehe... I'm new here nga poh pala.

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additional powered sub for konzert 502A
« Reply #350 on: Dec 22, 2010 at 11:54 PM »
hello po ulit sa lahat... gusto ko lang po sanang mag tanong kung anong konzert powered subwoofer ang maganda e pares sa 2 45o watts na konzert

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proper set.up for konzert 502a?
« Reply #351 on: Dec 23, 2010 at 12:05 AM »
hello po ulit.. tanong ko lang po kung ok lang na isang 450W bawat channel ang set.up ko sa 502a? I mean 1 450W sa A at 1 450W sa B? di poh bah masisira yung amp ko? dapat po ba sa isang channel lang nka kabit ang pair of 450W na konzert speaker? at mag.dagdag nlng po ng pair sa B? or ok lng na tag.iisa bawat channel? just not to damage the amps?

bago nag poh pala ako d2

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Re: proper set.up for konzert 502a?
« Reply #352 on: Dec 23, 2010 at 06:02 AM »
hello po ulit.. tanong ko lang po kung ok lang na isang 450W bawat channel ang set.up ko sa 502a? I mean 1 450W sa A at 1 450W sa B? di poh bah masisira yung amp ko? dapat po ba sa isang channel lang nka kabit ang pair of 450W na konzert speaker? at mag.dagdag nlng po ng pair sa B? or ok lng na tag.iisa bawat channel? just not to damage the amps?

bago nag poh pala ako d2

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pwede naman yan, kung ayaw mong masira yung amp mo speaker A or B lang ang gamit, wag sabay.....and kaligtasan ng amp mo any nasa iyong mga kamay...... ;D
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Re: Konzert AVR
« Reply #353 on: Dec 23, 2010 at 07:23 PM »
hi, tanong lang poh... bumili poh ako ng konzert 502a the other day.. with a pair of ks 450, kailangan poh ba sa isang channel ko lang sila e  kabit? yung sa'kin poh kc isa sa channel A at isa sa Channel B... 2 palang poh kc ang speakers ko sa ngayon..at yun din poh kc turo sa'kin nung salesman sa SM isa bawat channel.

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Re: Konzert AVR
« Reply #354 on: Dec 23, 2010 at 08:19 PM »
hi, tanong lang poh... bumili poh ako ng konzert 502a the other day.. with a pair of ks 450, kailangan poh ba sa isang channel ko lang sila e  kabit? yung sa'kin poh kc isa sa channel A at isa sa Channel B... 2 palang poh kc ang speakers ko sa ngayon..at yun din poh kc turo sa'kin nung salesman sa SM isa bawat channel.
speaker A/B selection is different from left and right channel.
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Re: Konzert AVR
« Reply #355 on: Dec 25, 2010 at 02:32 PM »
mga kuya tanong ko lang po bkit d magkasing lakas ung sound ng speaker ko..???
-SPEAKER A po xa nkakabit mas malakas ung left kesa po sa right ganon po b talaga ung konzert 502-A

DAI-1CHI po speaker ko 130 watss lang po..
KONZERT 502-A nmn po amplie ko...


PLZ paki sagot nmn po tanong ko
TENX aLOT mha KUYA/// :)

paps try mo muna i-test sa mas malakas na speaker...
yang 502a can handle a pair of 350w up to 650w...
napakaliit nyang speaker mo... baka masira yan...
baka kaya siguro parang di match ang tunog...

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Re: Konzert AVR
« Reply #356 on: Dec 25, 2010 at 02:37 PM »
hi, tanong lang poh... bumili poh ako ng konzert 502a the other day.. with a pair of ks 450, kailangan poh ba sa isang channel ko lang sila e  kabit? yung sa'kin poh kc isa sa channel A at isa sa Channel B... 2 palang poh kc ang speakers ko sa ngayon..at yun din poh kc turo sa'kin nung salesman sa SM isa bawat channel.

sa Left and Right of Speaker A mo lang ikabit... then select A
or sa Left and Right lang ng Speaker B... then select B
mas tama at mas balance sya... wag mong paghiwalayin...

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Re: proper set.up for konzert 502a?
« Reply #357 on: Dec 25, 2010 at 02:42 PM »
hello po ulit.. tanong ko lang po kung ok lang na isang 450W bawat channel ang set.up ko sa 502a? I mean 1 450W sa A at 1 450W sa B? di poh bah masisira yung amp ko? dapat po ba sa isang channel lang nka kabit ang pair of 450W na konzert speaker? at mag.dagdag nlng po ng pair sa B? or ok lng na tag.iisa bawat channel? just not to damage the amps?

bago nag poh pala ako d2

  :)



much better kung left and right lang ng Speaker A then choose A
or left and right lang ng Speaker B then choose B
huwag mo ng paghiwalayin... although puwede rin pero mas tama
kung A ay sa A lang pareho ilalagay... ganuon din sa B...

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Re: Konzert AVR
« Reply #358 on: Dec 25, 2010 at 11:29 PM »
paps try mo muna i-test sa mas malakas na speaker...
yang 502a can handle a pair of 350w up to 650w...
napakaliit nyang speaker mo... baka masira yan...
baka kaya siguro parang di match ang tunog...

sir tenx po sa pag sagot ng tanong ko new lang po kc me d2 sa pinoydvd...

tanong pa po me ulet pwed po ba lagyan pareho ang SPEAKER "A"  L & R  at  SPEAKER "B" L & R ng tig 500 watts n speaker...... bale po 500+500+500+500.... ano po b ang magang set up..
maraming salamat po....

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Re: Konzert AVR
« Reply #359 on: Dec 26, 2010 at 11:58 PM »
sa mga nag reply... thanks...:) mag tatanong na nman po ako ulit... Ok poh ba ang Pioneer na amps? balak ko poh kc bumili next year for my room... yung 5.1 lang poh.. meron poh kc ako nkita na pioneer around 13k.