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Re: 4k next big thing?
« Reply #30 on: Aug 24, 2012 at 01:12 PM »
4k, 8K will never hit mass market.   Blu-ray and Full HD TVs will be the combo for years to come esp. now that prices for both Full HD TVs and BD players have considerably come down.  I think renting Blue Ray disks will have a market again in countries like the Philippines, Indonesia, India and the like. The combination of highprice BDs, push for DRM and the behavior of most to just watch 1-2x and store or re-sell unwanted BDs are a formula for for-rent original BD market.

Someone is already testing the market with this Blupass gimick. Before you know it, neighborhood for-rent BD stores will sprout like mushrooms and if the optical media board and NTC is smart and really wants to make a significant dent on piracy they will make it mandatory for BD players and/or digital TVs sold in the Philippines to have CINAVIA or another DRM.

 





Kahit na mahit ang market like lang ng full HD na kahit naka full HD na HDTV pero ang play is 720p. Parng aanhin ko ang 4k if di naman 4k ang play ko na source.  ;) ;)
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Re: 4k next big thing?
« Reply #31 on: Aug 30, 2012 at 08:23 AM »

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Re: 4k next big thing?
« Reply #32 on: Sep 08, 2012 at 09:55 AM »
the only way to know if 4k is worth is to see it. you cant judge it with out experience it first.:
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Re: 4k next big thing?
« Reply #33 on: Sep 08, 2012 at 12:45 PM »
the only way to know if 4k is worth is to see it. you cant judge it with out experience it first.:

I agree. I've seen and briefly used a 4k 10-bit monitor using a dual-link dvi interface. Glorious to say the least. :)
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Re: 4k next big thing?
« Reply #34 on: Sep 08, 2012 at 11:55 PM »
I agree. I've seen and briefly used a 4k 10-bit monitor using a dual-link dvi interface. Glorious to say the least. :)
what is the size of the panel master ivan?
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Re: 4k next big thing?
« Reply #35 on: Sep 09, 2012 at 02:59 AM »
what is the size of the panel master ivan?

It's a 56" pro/industrial screen used for design applications, master joko. The problem with these older pro implementations is that they run many cables (the screen is cut up to 4 areas, so the computer may see it as 4 monitors). The drivers would have to tell the OS to span those areas to let the screen work as a single monitor (like how Eyefinity works now).

That part is now greatly simplified with standalone devices and graphics adapters supporting 4k using a single HDMI connection. Unfortunately, HDMI 1.4a 4K is limited to a maximum of 30p so that probably means that we won't get fluid motion without motion interpolation. Maybe the next version of HDMI will have a provision for 4K 3D and higher frame rates.

I hope HEVC would get wide acceptance soon, as this may make 4k data more accessible.
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Re: 4k next big thing?
« Reply #36 on: Sep 15, 2012 at 01:11 AM »
I believe that 4K, 8K or what Toshiba calls as super hi-vision is the next best thing in video resolution. There is a claim that the because of the additional number of pixels the resolution of the display is almost like that of a 3D tv.

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Re: 4k next big thing?
« Reply #37 on: Sep 18, 2012 at 06:58 AM »
walang 2k?
4k agad :D
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Re: 4k next big thing?
« Reply #38 on: Sep 18, 2012 at 07:04 AM »
FullHD 1080p (2.1 megapixels), for practical reasons, is already equivalent to Digital Cinema 2K (2.2 megapixels)
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Re: 4k next big thing?
« Reply #39 on: Sep 18, 2012 at 10:53 AM »
walang 2k?
4k agad :D

Merong 2K.  Punta ka sa appliance stores, ang dami.  :D

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Re: 4k next big thing?
« Reply #40 on: Sep 18, 2012 at 08:00 PM »
Merong 2K.  Punta ka sa appliance stores, ang dami.  :D
may last price kaya dun ???
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Re: 4k next big thing?
« Reply #41 on: Sep 19, 2012 at 09:03 AM »
Sabi nung Sharp target nila is 2016 for an 8k tv set. blu ray in 4k or 8k? well, where do i sign up?  ;D

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Re: 4k next big thing?
« Reply #42 on: Sep 23, 2012 at 06:59 AM »
If i'm not mistaken, 4K and 8K refers to one and the same. 1920 x 1080 is referred to as full HD. If we multiply those figures we'll come up with 7680 x 4320. if the said number are rounded off, then 7680 = 8K and 4320 = 4K. Just my thoughts.

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Re: 4k next big thing?
« Reply #43 on: Sep 23, 2012 at 07:05 AM »
magkaiba pa yan bro. yung 4k = 8megapixel camera picture size. 8k is higher pa talaga.

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Re: 4k next big thing?
« Reply #44 on: Sep 23, 2012 at 07:27 AM »
Thanks for the enlightenment brother. 

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Re: 4k next big thing?
« Reply #45 on: Sep 23, 2012 at 12:43 PM »
time to throw out those old screen size vs viewing distance charts?


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Re: 4k next big thing?
« Reply #46 on: Dec 14, 2012 at 11:14 AM »
Not possible for 90% of living rooms worldwide.. no money for this market but of course I could be always wrong..

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Re: 4k next big thing?
« Reply #47 on: Dec 17, 2012 at 08:11 AM »
Saw the LG Ultra HDTV in Anson's Makati yesterday. You won't miss this huge tv in the middle of their store. It's quite impressive watching 3d on this gigantic TV but it comes with a price tag of P800k++  :o :o :o One customer tests his Avengers 1080p (Kakabili nya lang daw sa Greenhills with his other movies) via usb. One thing that caught my attention is the motion blur it produces.

I asked the salesman kung may mga bumili na ng TV na yon. He said, tatlo na raw. One is the owner of Anson's, another person he don't know and Hayden Kho.
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Re: 4k next big thing?
« Reply #48 on: Dec 17, 2012 at 08:15 AM »
I asked the salesman kung may mga bumili na ng TV na yon. He said, tatlo na raw. One is the owner of Anson's, another person he don't know and Hayden Kho.

wow,i wonder what Hayden watches with this TV...  >:D

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Re: 4k next big thing?
« Reply #49 on: Dec 17, 2012 at 08:44 AM »
wow,i wonder what Hayden watches with this TV...  >:D

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Re: 4k next big thing?
« Reply #50 on: Dec 17, 2012 at 09:49 PM »
Saw the LG Ultra HDTV in Anson's Makati yesterday. You won't miss this huge tv in the middle of their store. It's quite impressive watching 3d on this gigantic TV but it comes with a price tag of P800k++  :o :o :o One customer tests his Avengers 1080p (Kakabili nya lang daw sa Greenhills with his other movies) via usb. One thing that caught my attention is the motion blur it produces.

I asked the salesman kung may mga bumili na ng TV na yon. He said, tatlo na raw. One is the owner of Anson's, another person he don't know and Hayden Kho.

800k?  :o   this makes the JVC 4K Projectors @ 350k (starting) seem like a bargain!  ::)
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Re: 4k next big thing?
« Reply #51 on: Dec 17, 2012 at 09:55 PM »
800k?  :o   this makes the JVC 4K Projectors @ 350k (starting) seem like a bargain!  ::)

Uy 350k lang pala and bargain yan na bilhin mo.  >:D  >:D
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Re: 4k next big thing?
« Reply #52 on: Dec 17, 2012 at 10:00 PM »
Uy 350k lang pala and bargain yan na bilhin mo.  >:D  >:D

ayoko. takot ako sa multo.  ;D
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Re: 4k next big thing?
« Reply #53 on: Dec 17, 2012 at 11:05 PM »
Heard in the podshows that once there is 4K you wont need 3d since the 4K itself will be life like. And 3D will again disappear.
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Re: 4k next big thing?
« Reply #54 on: Dec 28, 2012 at 07:20 PM »
Hopefully in the near future the manufacturers may be able to produce at least an affordable 40" tv that is 4k capable.   

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Re: 4k next big thing?
« Reply #55 on: Jan 01, 2013 at 12:05 PM »
i dont personally care about this 4k thing just give me a 47" vt50 and i will buy it release day :)

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Re: 4k next big thing?
« Reply #56 on: Jan 01, 2013 at 09:56 PM »
I got to see Sony and LG's 84" 4K tvs at Anson's Makati the other day. 3D and PQ of both are good. I'm not that impressed by their size anymore though.  ::) :P
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Re: 4k next big thing?
« Reply #57 on: Jan 15, 2013 at 07:14 AM »
According to Sony, 4K video distribution would be available by Summer this year.

4K is driving larger screen sizes. Here's a 110" model:

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Re: 4k next big thing?
« Reply #58 on: Jan 15, 2013 at 09:26 AM »
No point going to 4k until 4k sources are actually available.

meron nga pakulo yung Sony na 4k remastered yung blu ray movies. Siyempre yung mga di marunong, mauuto. aakalain na 4k talaga bibilhin nila yun pala 4k source converted to 1080. LULZ.

I can only imagine how big the file size would be for actual 4k sources. Not practical pa unless they create a blu ray or other medium in which they can fit those 4k materials in.

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Re: 4k next big thing?
« Reply #59 on: Jan 15, 2013 at 11:54 AM »
4k will be the future for theaters but not for households.. Apple TV will be the next best thing for consumers! :) Imagine how ugly would it be to have a 70" TV on a typical living room.. :) Im not buying it for sure. Like I said give me a 47" VT50 or Apple TV's retina and all those iOs goodness!! :)