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« Reply #510 on: Aug 30, 2015 at 01:01 PM »
siguro naiintindihan na ngayon ng mga tao kung ano ang legit na grievance at mga gawa gawang hinaing lamang...
maraming mga celebrasyon ng nakakaabala sa traffic mapa iglesia o katoliko o protestante o mga bading, pero ito ay lehitimong celebrasyon. ang nagyaring protesta sa edsa ngayon, kaya SIGURO maraming naglabas ng hinaing kse they feel it is unecessary o  kya hindi legit ang protest! ikaw ba naniniwala ng pinepersecute ng gobyerno at ginigipit ang liderato ng INC?

Hindi ako naniniwala na may persecution vs INC.  Pero ang INC naniniwala na meron.

Hindi ako naniniwala na mali ang RH Bill/Law, pero ang CBCP naniniwala na mali yon.

Parehong may permit mag-rally, parehong legal ang rally, pero hindi raw legit protest yung isa, at legit protest naman daw yung isa.

Lahat tayo may bias kung ano ang legit at hindi legit na protesta.  Kaya para patas ang turing, kung galit tayo sa abala ng isa, dapat galit din tayo sa abala ng kabila.  Kung ok lang tayo sa abala ng isa, dapat ok lang din tayo sa abala ng kabila.

Kung ako ang tatanungin, dapat pareho lang hindi binigyan ng rally permit yan.  Batikusin n'yo ang gobyerno hanggang gusto n'yo, wag n'yo lang gawin sa kalye...  :D
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Re: Iglesia Ni Cristo - 100years of God's blessings
« Reply #511 on: Aug 30, 2015 at 01:04 PM »
Minsan di mo maiwasan na ang kausap mo eh ang banat "eh kasi INC o katoliko o muslim".

Despite that flaw, we have all enjoyed relatively peaceful coexistence in the past decades at for that we are all most thankful.

Nawa'y ito ay lumipas and let the rule of law prevail. I am sure in the coming weeks Merong investigation in aid of legislation patungkol sa gawain ni De Lima.

Asahan nyong gagamitin yan ng mga pulitiko  para ipaliwanag ng mga humalo sa usapin ng INC , at maexpose lang sa tv at radyo, hindi para tunay na suporta para sa INC.

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« Reply #512 on: Aug 30, 2015 at 01:50 PM »
Sumagot na si Mar supporting the rule of law.I can't help but admire his stance despite tatakbo siya and still makes it possible to enjoy a solid vote ng INC kung manahimik na lang.
papaano yan, kung si Mar ang nakakalamang(kunyari lang), will INC support him despite sa pagkontra nya sa ipinaglalaban ng mga sanggunian?

Kinontra ba ni Mar yung pinaglalaban ng Sanggunian?

The Mar Roxas statement is nothing but political doublespeak.  It's a carefully worded message that sounds good at first glance, because we don't immediately detect that he's not really taking any position.
 

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Eto sabi ni Mar: http://www.rappler.com/nation/104079-mar-roxas-inc-impinge-others-rights

- "Let us remember that ours is a Rule of Law and not of men."

Uy, ganda pakinggan!  Mali raw ba ang INC sa pagbatikos kay De Lima?

- “While all citizens have the right to be heard and to peaceful assembly, the exercise of these rights cannot impinge on the rights of others or cause inconvenience to anyone, especially for other Filipinos going home to rest and be with their families..."

Traffic "inconvenience" lang pala ang sinasabi, hindi separation of church and state.  Walang comment kung tama ba o mali si De Lima.

Mali ba ang INC sa ginagawang rally?

- “As in all protest actions, preserving peace and order with maximum tolerance will be practiced by all responding policemen..”
- “The PNP is duty-bound to ensure that the safety and general welfare of the public is maintained, both those protesting and those uninvolved. This includes making sure opportunists do not try to take advantage of the situation for personal ends.

E di ok lang para sa kanya na mag rally ang INC, basta peaceful.

May comment ba siya sa akusasyon na may ginawang violation of "separation of church and state" rule daw si De Lima?  Wala.

Ang sabi nga niya, may karapatan daw mag-rally ang INC ("all citizens have the right to be heard and to peaceful assembly").  But it should not inconvenience anyone daw.  Paano ka namang magra-rally nang walang abala sa traffic?

Para mawala ang abala sa traffic, dapat tigilan na ang rally.  May sinabi ba si Mar na tigilan na ang rally at umuwi na sila?  Wala.

Balik tayo dito:

- "Let us remember that ours is a Rule of Law and not of men."

Tama.  Pero sumusunod naman sa rule of law ang INC rally. 

May legal na permits yon sa Manila and Mandaluyong.  Ang utos ng pa ng pamunuan ng INC, huwag magsasalita na "ibagsak ang gobyerno."  Kasi pag sinabi yon, criminal offense (Inciting to Sedition).  E di sumusunod nga sa rule of law.

May sinabi ba si Mar na ang INC rally ay hindi sumusunod sa rule of law?  Wala.

Ano pala sinasabi niya?  Wala rin...  :D 

Yan ang political doublespeak.  Effective naman yata.  Ang dating agad sa tao, kinontra daw niya ang INC kahit hindi...  ;)
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Re: Iglesia Ni Cristo - 100years of God's blessings
« Reply #513 on: Aug 30, 2015 at 02:10 PM »
Hindi ko din alam sino mah mali, yung humingi ng permit na nabigyan, or yung hiningan ng permit at nagbigay.

Kung legality, dahil may permit eh di legal, tama? Ngayon yun isyu ng punaglalaban legit ba or hindi? Sanggunian lang nakakaalam.

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Re: Iglesia Ni Cristo - 100years of God's blessings
« Reply #514 on: Aug 30, 2015 at 02:21 PM »
Hindi ko din alam sino mah mali, yung humingi ng permit na nabigyan, or yung hiningan ng permit at nagbigay.

Kung legality, dahil may permit eh di legal, tama?

Siyempre naman, pag may permit e di legal.  Sisihin nila yung nagbigay ng permit.

Paanong tatanggihan ng gobyerno ang permit application, e bigay sila nang bigay ng permit sa rally ng Katoliko?  :D E di lalabas, discrimination pag hindi binigyan ng permit ang INC.

Yan ang sinasabi ko na pag Katoliko ang nang-abala sa traffic, walang magreklamo sa sangkatutak na Katoliko, kasi ok lang sa kanila, kapwa naman nila Katoliko, e.  Ngayong sila ang naabala ng ibang relihiyon, ngawa naman nang ngawa...
 

Ngayon yun isyu ng punaglalaban legit ba or hindi? Sanggunian lang nakakaalam.

Issue ba kung legit o hindi ang pinaglalaban?  Hindi na dapat pinakikialaman ang ganong issue, kasi dapat neutral ang gobyerno sa dahilan ng mga nagpoprotesta, kasi freedom of speech yon.

Puwede bang pagbawalan ang gay rights speech dahil lang sa kontra tayo sa pinaglalaban nila?  Hindi.  Tutol man tayo sa sinasabi nila, may karapatan pa rin silang magsalita. 

Kontra man tayo o hindi sa ipinaglalaban ng Sanggunian, non-issue dapat yon sa karapatang free speech.
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Re: Iglesia Ni Cristo - 100years of God's blessings
« Reply #515 on: Aug 30, 2015 at 02:39 PM »
Sorry to INC members here. But take this to heart please. I cancelled 1 shoot, 1 party event, 1 get together with former colleagues and wasted my gasoline going to a client. Its your STUPID BLOC  decision system. I used to defend INC as they are organised and well meaninged if they have an affair or a general congregation. It seems I was mistaken. INC PAKSHET. Sorry for the last word i muttered. Wasted time wasted effort wasted profit wasted gasoline.

I honestly would not blame INC.

Why?

Because this is the Philippines and it is a given that eventually a group of people will take their anger out at EDSA.

It has already happened 3+ times already.

Another #Proud2bPinoy moment! :)

Mar, DoJ and PNoy should know better and just leave INC alone. Or else Binay will take over.

God! I love religion!

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Re: Iglesia Ni Cristo - 100years of God's blessings
« Reply #516 on: Aug 30, 2015 at 02:55 PM »
Simple lang naman. This should be done in the right venue.

It is very difficult to understand the main issue of "showing of force" just to insist that the government authorities back-off from a complaint by a citizen albeit one who has been recently expelled from their ranks by holding majority of the public at a hostage.

At the end of the day, this is another simple exploitation of the mostly uneducated masses. This is just blind faith following for most of the folks who let themselves be used by those up in the hierarchy for whatever vested interest they may have.

No different from the "hakot crowds" made mostly of folks from the C, D segments of society.

Meanwhile, those who have planned, instigated are far away and safely just monitoring how this turns out. The buck stops at Eduardo Manalo and he should man up and take the complaint thru the legal system --- http://tonyocruz.com/?p=4786


There is also an added dimension of where the are holding their protests and the significance of that area to mostly Catholic folks. If it was the reverse, a Catholic Church indignation rally is held at the area of the INC main church along Tandang Sora, how would they take it that the place is full of garbage during such rallies, moreso afterwards as evidenced when they vacated Padre Faura?


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« Reply #517 on: Aug 30, 2015 at 03:20 PM »
It is very difficult to understand the main issue of "showing of force" just to insist that the government authorities back-off from a complaint by a citizen albeit one who has been recently expelled from their ranks by holding majority of the public at a hostage.

Sure, it's an INC show of force.  Just as the RH Bill rallies were a Catholic show of force ---

CBCP president Archbishop Jose Palma of Cebu, in an interview with the Church-run Radio Veritas, said bishops were supportive of street rallies against the RH bill in the hope that the show of force would convince the lawmakers to vote against the measure, which they claim is antilife. http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/238069/take-rh-bill-protest-to-the-streets-bishops-urge-faithful#ixzz3kHNn1zWY

Catholics make a show of force, no big deal.  A different religion makes a show of force and they lose their minds.
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« Reply #518 on: Aug 30, 2015 at 04:12 PM »
Sure, it's an INC show of force.  Just as the RH Bill rallies were a Catholic show of force ---

CBCP president Archbishop Jose Palma of Cebu, in an interview with the Church-run Radio Veritas, said bishops were supportive of street rallies against the RH bill in the hope that the show of force would convince the lawmakers to vote against the measure, which they claim is antilife. http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/238069/take-rh-bill-protest-to-the-streets-bishops-urge-faithful#ixzz3kHNn1zWY

Catholics make a show of force, no big deal.  A different religion makes a show of force and they lose their minds.

so you're saying that it is among the rights of the INC that they can be allowed to commit crimes and they are untouchable?

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« Reply #519 on: Aug 30, 2015 at 04:20 PM »
Personally, I've no argument with the inc's show of force. They're entitled to it, just the same way everyone else is regardless of faith or creed.

Yung sinasabing dapat magalit din tayo sa katoliko tuwing black nazarene, feast ng kung sino sinong santo,etc e oo I agree with that. Hassle is hassle, regardless sino o ano ang pananampalataya.

Ang pinagkaiba sa tingin ko e yung mga prusesyon ng katoliko, e alam na ng lahat kelan at saan ginagawa. That way maiiwasan mo, pwede ka magplano in advance. E itong ginawa ng inc, gulatan. Natural na marami magagalit, gawin ba naman on a payday friday before a long weekend. Most likely premeditated for maximum effect.

Saka mga reasons nila for doing it, other than dun sa kaso ng ministro nila? Dinamay pa saf44. Anung kinalaman nun? Maaangas pa magpost ibang members nila, kesyo traffic naman na din daw edsa so anung difference, pasalamat daw tayo at ilang oras lang naman daw tayo naabala. Haha ok thank you then. ;D

Hindi na nga issue sakin na ibang religion pinaniniwalaan nila sa paniniwala ko. I would think that the repercussions would be the same kung ibang grupo din gumawa mg ginawa nila, under the same circumstances

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« Reply #520 on: Aug 30, 2015 at 04:23 PM »
Admittedly, I am annoyed by all sorts of rituals which disrupt the normal flow of daily life, be it a procession, a funeral or a mass action by any religious group.

On the other hand, I think it is not the show of force per se which irks the people, rather it's the reason behind it.  The INC show of force gives the impression that they are above the law.  Their interpretation of Constitutional Separation of Church and State is twisted, at best for reasons that have been explained here many times over.

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« Reply #521 on: Aug 30, 2015 at 04:24 PM »
so you're saying that it is among the rights of the INC that they can be allowed to commit crimes and they are untouchable?

Layo mo naman sir.

Ang sinasabi ko, when Catholics make a show of force, complain with the same vigor that that you complain against an INC show of force.

If you don't bother complaining against a Catholic show of force, then don't complain against an INC show of force either.

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« Reply #522 on: Aug 30, 2015 at 04:43 PM »
Admittedly, I am annoyed by all sorts of rituals which disrupt the normal flow of daily life, be it a procession, a funeral or a mass action by any religious group.

I agree. 
 
On the other hand, I think it is not the show of force per se which irks the people, rather it's the reason behind it.  The INC show of force gives the impression that they are above the law.  Their interpretation of Constitutional Separation of Church and State is twisted, at best for reasons that have been explained here many times over.

If the INC show of force gives the impression that they feel they are above the law, then the Catholic show of force against the then RH Bill should also give the impression that they feel they are above the law.

Otherwise, we discriminate against those whose opinion is different from ours.

You think the INC separation of church and state interpretation is twisted, and so do I.  But it shouldn't matter what we think.  As long as they have a right to hold a peaceful rally, our opinion about their causes should be irrelevant. 

I also think the Catholic opposition to the then RH Bill was twisted.  But if they have a right to hold a peaceful rally, then it shouldn't matter what I think about their reasons either.

If we criticize the INC's traffic-causing rally, we should also criticize all traffic-causing rallies of all other religions.
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« Reply #523 on: Aug 30, 2015 at 04:52 PM »
Layo mo naman sir.

Ang sinasabi ko, when Catholics make a show of force, complain with the same vigor that that you complain against an INC show of force.

If you don't bother complaining against a Catholic show of force, then don't complain against an INC show of force either.

why exactly would people complain about a group that is fighting for what they think is for their moral values?

ang layo rin ng comparison mo, rally sa RH Bill is the same as a rally to tell the law enforcers to stop a criminal investigation ba?  One is a cause against anti-life, One is a cause for pro-crime.

kung maghahanap ka ng comparison, hanap ka na nag.rally mga Catholics due to a bishop or a priest was being investigated for a crime
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« Reply #524 on: Aug 30, 2015 at 05:03 PM »
why exactly would people complain about a group that is fighting for what they think is for their moral values?

Because they don't think any religious group should impose their morality on others.

Dali naman ng tanong mo sir...  ;)
 

ang layo rin ng comparison mo, rally sa RH Bill is the same as a rally to tell the law enforcers to stop a criminal investigation ba?  One is a cause against anti-life, One is a cause for pro-crime.

The INC is not telling the DOJ to stop criminal investigation.

RH Bill as anti-life, paniniwalang Katoliko yon.

Lakas talaga ng bias mo, sir...  :D
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« Reply #525 on: Aug 30, 2015 at 05:05 PM »
Because they don't think any religious group should impose their morality on others.

Dali naman ng tanong mo sir...  ;)
 

The INC is not telling the DOJ to stop criminal investigation.

RH Bill as anti-life, paniniwalang Katoliko yon.

Lakas talaga ng bias mo, sir...  :D

ows really? ayaw nila na ipahinto ang investigation? bakit puro seperation of church and state ang sinisigaw ng mga rallyista? bakit ang raming INC nagsasabi na di dapat maki.alam ang gobyerno kasi internal church affair yun?

at speaking of bias... who are the people who believe that their leader is above the law and di dapat imbestigahan?
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« Reply #526 on: Aug 30, 2015 at 05:16 PM »
Basahin mo ulit, sir ha:

ang layo rin ng comparison mo, rally sa RH Bill is the same as a rally to tell the law enforcers to stop a criminal investigation ba? 

The INC is not telling the DOJ to stop criminal investigation.

Ang usapan natin kanina, telling the DOJ to stop. 

Ngayon, hindi na "telling the DOJ to stop" ang gusto mong pag-usapan.  Hidden agenda speculation na ang gusto mo.

Pero OK lang yon sir.  Sanay naman ako sa mga taong nagbabago ng katuwiran pag naiipit.  :D
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« Reply #527 on: Aug 30, 2015 at 05:42 PM »
Lilipat na sila ng pwesto!
Naglalakad na sila ppunta kay Mama Mary sa EDSA shrine!  ^-^
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« Reply #528 on: Aug 30, 2015 at 05:47 PM »
Tapos yung kabila naman ay nag rally sa harap nang INC QC  hehehe
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« Reply #529 on: Aug 30, 2015 at 05:49 PM »
I agree. 
 
If the INC show of force gives the impression that they feel they are above the law, then the Catholic show of force against the then RH Bill should also give the impression that they feel they are above the law.

Otherwise, we discriminate against those whose opinion is different from ours.

You think the INC separation of church and state interpretation is twisted, and so do I.  But it shouldn't matter what we think.  As long as they have a right to hold a peaceful rally, our opinion about their causes should be irrelevant. 

I also think the Catholic opposition to the then RH Bill was twisted.  But if they have a right to hold a peaceful rally, then it shouldn't matter what I think about their reasons either.

If we criticize the INC's traffic-causing rally, we should also criticize all traffic-causing rallies of all other religions.

Pero atty. Hindi naman ata lahat Ng inc event ay  criticized, diba Menon silang annual event na Hindi naman tinitira Ng mga Tao kasi alam nilang mangyayari,, as far as I know parang itong rally lang NA Ito ang talagang pinansin ng mga Tao.
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« Reply #530 on: Aug 30, 2015 at 05:52 PM »
i hope i am wrong, but if they go on with the rallies,
i will see it as a power grab......but they will never succeed...
it is only the sangguinan members that are in question here, not the church...
how do we defend our freedom? by the truth when it is assaulted by Marcos lies....

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« Reply #531 on: Aug 30, 2015 at 06:00 PM »
Nun anniv... Di naman ganito reklamo namin...
Nun nagrally sila to show their force last year... Di naman ganito reklamo namin...

Pero nang may magreklamo ng criminal case laban sa ilang member ng INC, magrarally sila ng separation of church and state...
May nag file ng case illegal detention, tapos isisigaw nila huwag makikialam ang gobyerno...
Paano na lang kung normal o hindi former member ang magfile ng kaso, untouchable pa rin?

Sala sa hulog ang sigaw nilang separation of church and state... Wala akong marinig sa ibang relihiyon na nagrally na ang topic ay ganyan, INC lang - na nagiindorse ng kandidato. Isigaw nila ang separation kung totigilan nila amg pagiindorso.
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« Reply #532 on: Aug 30, 2015 at 06:19 PM »

The RH Bill rallies are about religious doctrines. (Pro RH Bill ako by the way)

This particular INC rally is about an on-going criminal investigation.  May nagsampa ng kaso, nag-iimbistiga ang DOJ.  How can that be an internal matter.  And it has nothing to do with the government meddling with church doctrines.


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« Reply #533 on: Aug 30, 2015 at 06:23 PM »
May mangilan ngilan na rin namang rally ang hindi bumenta:

- EDSA tres
- Oakwood Mutiny
- (time will tell if makakasama dito 'INC peaceful assembly')
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« Reply #534 on: Aug 30, 2015 at 06:36 PM »
aren't INC members forbidden to join rallies or protests in the first place?  ::)

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« Reply #535 on: Aug 30, 2015 at 06:46 PM »
Sa totoo lang, any one who stages a rally in EDSA gets criticized. Whether Catholic, left leaning or the INC. In fact, there should be a ban on holding rallies in EDSA period. Exercise your freedom of assembly and freedom of expression elsewhere.

If INC does decide to "occupy EDSA" for the foreseeable future (I've been seeing reports of them asking for an extension of their permit), wonder how that will go? It will be the first time, to my recollection, that it will be done. Even EDSA 1 and EDSA dos lasted maybe  only 3-4 days, right?

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Re: Iglesia Ni Cristo - 100years of God's blessings
« Reply #536 on: Aug 30, 2015 at 06:54 PM »

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Eto sabi ni Mar: http://www.rappler.com/nation/104079-mar-roxas-inc-impinge-others-rights

- "Let us remember that ours is a Rule of Law and not of men."

Uy, ganda pakinggan!  Mali raw ba ang INC sa pagbatikos kay De Lima?

- “While all citizens have the right to be heard and to peaceful assembly, the exercise of these rights cannot impinge on the rights of others or cause inconvenience to anyone, especially for other Filipinos going home to rest and be with their families..."

Traffic "inconvenience" lang pala ang sinasabi, hindi separation of church and state.  Walang comment kung tama ba o mali si De Lima.

Mali ba ang INC sa ginagawang rally?
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HINDI BA PWEDENG ALL ENCOMPASING YUNG RULE OF LAW AND NOT OF MEN?  AT BINIGYAN MO LANG ITO NG PAIKOT PARA PUMABOR SA ARGUMENTO MO SIR?

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Balik tayo dito:

- "Let us remember that ours is a Rule of Law and not of men."

Tama.  Pero sumusunod naman sa rule of law ang INC rally. 

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SA MABABAW NA PAGUNAWA BAKA ITO ANG NAIISIP NG IBA, PERO SA MGA INTILHENTENG TAO NA MAY KAPASIDAD NA MAGISIP NG HIGIT PA, MAY MAS MALALIM NA KAHULUGAN ANG SINABI NI SEC MAR...

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May legal na permits yon sa Manila and Mandaluyong.  Ang utos ng pa ng pamunuan ng INC, huwag magsasalita na "ibagsak ang gobyerno."  Kasi pag sinabi yon, criminal offense (Inciting to Sedition).  E di sumusunod nga sa rule of law.


that is your opinion about the statement of sec mar....but i think it is much deeper that what you think....
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Re: Iglesia Ni Cristo - 100years of God's blessings
« Reply #537 on: Aug 30, 2015 at 07:00 PM »
Paanong tatanggihan ng gobyerno ang permit application, e bigay sila nang bigay ng permit sa rally ng Katoliko?  :D E di lalabas, discrimination pag hindi binigyan ng permit ang INC.

Yan ang sinasabi ko na pag Katoliko ang nang-abala sa traffic, walang magreklamo sa sangkatutak na Katoliko, kasi ok lang sa kanila, kapwa naman nila Katoliko, e.  Ngayong sila ang naabala ng ibang relihiyon, ngawa naman nang ngawa...
 

sige nga sabihin nyo nga kung ano ano nag mga ginawang rally ng katoliko na sinasabi mo na bigay ng bigay ng permit ang gobyerno at wlang nagrereklamo dahil kapwa katoliko? magbigay ka nga ng halimbawa ng perwisyong ginawa na walang reklamo sa kapwa nya katoliko....baka lumabas ikaw lang ang ngawa ng ngawa sa paghahalintulad mo...
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Re: Iglesia Ni Cristo - 100years of God's blessings
« Reply #538 on: Aug 30, 2015 at 07:31 PM »
Sa totoo lang, any one who stages a rally in EDSA gets criticized. Whether Catholic, left leaning or the INC. In fact, there should be a ban on holding rallies in EDSA period. Exercise your freedom of assembly and freedom of expression elsewhere.

If INC does decide to "occupy EDSA" for the foreseeable future (I've been seeing reports of them asking for an extension of their permit), wonder how that will go? It will be the first time, to my recollection, that it will be done. Even EDSA 1 and EDSA dos lasted maybe  only 3-4 days, right?

i am looking at a power grab in the making....
how do we defend our freedom? by the truth when it is assaulted by Marcos lies....

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Re: Iglesia Ni Cristo - 100years of God's blessings
« Reply #539 on: Aug 30, 2015 at 07:40 PM »
These are trying moments for the government.