Author Topic: Wharfedale Diamond 100 series (Read 49477 times)

Allan_2180 · « **Reply #60 on:** Jan 22, 2014 at 10:44 AM »

Quote from: markymark8386 on Jan 21, 2014 at 01:00 PM

Have u guys tried biwiring? Any improvements?

Bi-wired ang 9.6 ko ever since... ni-try ko din lang e wala naman mawawala kung gagawin kasi sayang naman 4 binding posts ng Wharf e para saan ba un at dinesign nila un dba?
pero ung center ko single wire #16 na lang ginamit ko.
Key lang siguro sa speaker wiring e make it as practically thick as possible #14 or #16 para mas lumiit ang resistance ng wires for better Bass handling, at Equal Length ng L,C,R para sa resistance or maybe timing (although hindi naman lalampas ng 100m ang wire para ma-apektuhan ang timing)

zram18 · « **Reply #61 on:** Jan 26, 2014 at 09:05 PM »

bro,ask ko lang,nag improve ba ung sound nung nagbiwire ka? anong naging effect? im still abt to buy wharfe and i am thinking if i will bi wire it.

Allan_2180 · « **Reply #62 on:** Jan 27, 2014 at 09:09 PM »

Quote from: zram18 on Jan 26, 2014 at 09:05 PM

bro,ask ko lang,nag improve ba ung sound nung nagbiwire ka? anong naging effect? im still abt to buy wharfe and i am thinking if i will bi wire it.

Di ko pa natry magsingle wiring sa mga fronts ko, pero it has something to do with the reflected waves coming from woofers stopping it from affecting mids and highs ng fronts. Kya good ang single wire but better ang bi-wiring and best ang bi-amping(Wharf are not capable of w/o modding).

bravoexo · « **Reply #63 on:** Jan 27, 2014 at 09:37 PM »

Hmm, wait, what? Aren't those posts just for main drivers and tweeters? If you don't have the metal bridge on those posts, then you'll need to bi-wire...you'll only hear either the main driver speakers or the tweeters if you don't...

markymark8386 · « **Reply #64 on:** Jan 27, 2014 at 10:41 PM »

Hi guys. I just finished biwiring my 155 and pansin ko agad na nag improve yung bass nya tsaka soundstage and çlarity. Swabe na tumunog nung ordinary setup and mas naging swabe pa ngayong naka biwire na. Partida pa gamit ko lang wires is from deeco na 12awg ha. Di nako gumamit banana plugs kasi additional gastos lang. Test track ko pala is celine dion power of love album.

Mind you guys, this diamond 100 series are rated at 8ohms and has 89db sensitivity kaya gone are the days na mahirap daw i-drive kuno ang wharfedale.

Allan_2180 · « **Reply #65 on:** Jan 28, 2014 at 09:24 AM »

Quote from: bravoexo on Jan 27, 2014 at 09:37 PM

Hmm, wait, what? Aren't those posts just for main drivers and tweeters? If you don't have the metal bridge on those posts, then you'll need to bi-wire...you'll only hear either the main driver speakers or the tweeters if you don't...

those metal bridges were factory installed and must be removed when opt for bi-wiring.
2 Binding Post are for Low-Freq section,
the other 2 Binding Post are for Mid-Range and High Freq. section.

markymark8386 · « **Reply #66 on:** Jan 28, 2014 at 11:59 AM »

Correct. As per user manual, the metal jumpers should be removed when bi-wiring. Thats what I also did.

bravoexo · « **Reply #67 on:** Jan 28, 2014 at 05:56 PM »

Does that mean you're using two channels per floorstander? or you just using one channel per floorstander.

jh@meeh · « **Reply #68 on:** Jan 28, 2014 at 06:29 PM »

Pwede kang gumamit ng double runs of wire using one channel of stereo power amp: first run to LF and second run for HF...be sure to remove the metal plate connecting the binding post.

Another method is to use two (2) stereo power amp. Using double runs of speaker cable too. First run connected to first channel of stereo amp then the other end connected to LF of speaker. Second run connected to 2nd channel of stereo amp then the other end connected to HF of speaker...be sure to remove the metal plate connecting the binding post. Do the same thing for the remaining stereo amp and speaker.

Me, im using only the first method. True bi-wiring ang tawag kung double runs of wire ang gamit mo at 4x4 ang termination. Ang ibang bi wire kasi 2x4 ang termination. Experts said that true bi wires have less cross talk, less noise...pero doble gastos mo...pwedeng palitan mo na lang yung metal jumper mo ng same quality ng speaker cable mo kung gusto mong makatipid at ayaw mong mag bi wiring.

bravoexo · « **Reply #69 on:** Jan 29, 2014 at 12:01 AM »

If you're still using one channel from an amp but two wires, that's not different from just having one set of wires and those metal bridges (they're the same thing, you just spent more on speaker wiring). Speakers are in parallel either way. You change the gain, or move the crossover point, it happens to both speakers on the floor stander. No advantage whatsoever. If there is a difference now, then probably the metal bridges where not tightly making contact in the first place and the original wires were inadvertently on the tweeter posts.

You remove the metal bridge, and then use two channels (be it same amp or multi amps), then you're golden, you have control on the speakers Low-Mid and tweeters separately.

Allan_2180 · « **Reply #70 on:** Jan 29, 2014 at 08:43 AM »

Quote from: bravoexo on Jan 29, 2014 at 12:01 AM

If you're still using one channel from an amp but two wires, that's not different from just having one set of wires and those metal bridges (they're the same thing, you just spent more on speaker wiring). Speakers are in parallel either way. You change the gain, or move the crossover point, it happens to both speakers on the floor stander. No advantage whatsoever. If there is a difference now, then probably the metal bridges where not tightly making contact in the first place and the original wires were inadvertently on the tweeter posts.

You remove the metal bridge, and then use two channels (be it same amp or multi amps), then you're golden, you have control on the speakers Low-Mid and tweeters separately.

I think Bi-wiring should be discussed in a separate topic...

Allan_2180 · « **Reply #71 on:** Jan 29, 2014 at 08:58 AM »

some reading why some of are utilizing the bi-wiring option of our loudspeakers.

clip from audioquest.com/UndrstndgBiWr.pdf

and from Polk Audio article:
http://www.polkaudio.com/polk-university/articles/bi-wire

markymark8386 · « **Reply #72 on:** Jan 29, 2014 at 09:08 AM »

Guys try deeco cables they are priced at 12awg 30php per meter lang and sobrang sulit. Mataba tumunog and clear output.

Ito yung color transparent/red.

Allan_2180 · « **Reply #73 on:** Jan 29, 2014 at 09:15 AM »

Quote from: markymark8386 on Jan 29, 2014 at 09:08 AM

Guys try deeco cables they are priced at 12awg 30php per meter lang and sobrang sulit. Mataba tumunog and clear output.
Ito yung color transparent/red.

wag lang sana madaling ma-oxidize ung copper nyan,
kaya I invested in OFC cable.

markymark8386 · « **Reply #74 on:** Jan 29, 2014 at 09:40 AM »

Yep. Will monitor oxidation. Its cheap naman so no harm on giving it a try. Its been 3mos and good pa din yung wires.

newbie pa rin · « **Reply #75 on:** Jan 30, 2014 at 06:40 PM »

Can you share why are you asking for a b&w speakers? Due to lack of budget might get the 155 so was monitoring any update on this thread.

markymark8386 · « **Reply #76 on:** Feb 02, 2014 at 01:01 AM »

Quote from: newbie pa rin on Jan 30, 2014 at 06:40 PM

Sir panalo ang 155 and im a happy camper. please check my previous posts on this thread.
Can you share why are you asking for a b&w speakers? Due to lack of budget might get the 155 so was monitoring any update on this thread.

newbie pa rin · « **Reply #77 on:** Feb 28, 2014 at 07:56 PM »

Auditioned the BS speaker at SnS. Was not impressed. Was wondering bakit mataas nakuha nya sa what hi-fi in terms of SQ. Ano kaya basis nila?

Courage · « **Reply #78 on:** Feb 28, 2014 at 09:11 PM »

Quote from: newbie pa rin on Feb 28, 2014 at 07:56 PM

Auditioned the BS speaker at SnS. Was not impressed. Was wondering bakit mataas nakuha nya sa what hi-fi in terms of SQ. Ano kaya basis nila?

Price? Isa pa di reliable ang what hi fi reviews..

markymark8386 · « **Reply #79 on:** Mar 01, 2014 at 07:57 AM »

Bitin talaga bookshelfs kaya I got the 155 instead.

j3yps · « **Reply #80 on:** Mar 22, 2014 at 01:17 AM »

Question mga sir, saan po kayo nakapagpurchase ng Diamond 100s nyo?

Purchased a 157 sa SnS nung December, paid upfront but nung delivery na wala silang dalang 157, hindi daw nakuha nung pickup nila. Tapos nagpadala sila sakin 155 (service unit) then ang sabi I have to wait nadaw ng January, then January came ang sabi naman March pa daw dadating. Texted them earlier and sabi wala nadaw padating na 157 kung gusto ko daw 155 nalang or yung 10.7 (I need to add cash pa daw for this), kaso gusto ko talaga yung 157 (kaya yun yung binili ko to begin with). Baka meron kayong alam na ibang seller na merong 157 para iparefund ko nalang yung pera ko and lipat nalang ako sa ibang seller.

Nicadraus · « **Reply #81 on:** Mar 23, 2014 at 12:14 PM »

Quote from: j3yps on Mar 22, 2014 at 01:17 AM

Question mga sir, saan po kayo nakapagpurchase ng Diamond 100s nyo?

Purchased a 157 sa SnS nung December, paid upfront but nung delivery na wala silang dalang 157, hindi daw nakuha nung pickup nila. Tapos nagpadala sila sakin 155 (service unit) then ang sabi I have to wait nadaw ng January, then January came ang sabi naman March pa daw dadating. Texted them earlier and sabi wala nadaw padating na 157 kung gusto ko daw 155 nalang or yung 10.7 (I need to add cash pa daw for this), kaso gusto ko talaga yung 157 (kaya yun yung binili ko to begin with). Baka meron kayong alam na ibang seller na merong 157 para iparefund ko nalang yung pera ko and lipat nalang ako sa ibang seller.

Try AVX in Harrison Plaza.

migsev · « **Reply #82 on:** Mar 23, 2014 at 09:44 PM »

San pwede mag audition ng Wharfedale? Looking at the 121, 122, or 155 but I wanna hear everything first before making a purchase. Checked Listening In Style at Shang earlier but they don't have Wharf demo units.

egzbuen · « **Reply #83 on:** Apr 19, 2014 at 08:53 PM »

Hi,

To the wharfedale 100 series BS owners, how did you mount it or install it as surround speakers, can you please share some pix as well, thanks.

Due to limited space in the room, speaker stands are out of the question for now, FYI.

Finally, anyone upgraded from 10.1 to the 100 series? I am confused if I should go the 10.1 or 100 series route. Aesthetics wise, I like the 10.1 more but since the rears will be wall mounted, I am worried the rear port might give some issues unlike the 100's which has a downfiring port.

Thanks.

[dcw]aaron · « **Reply #84 on:** May 06, 2014 at 12:15 PM »

anyone who owns this Wharfedale Diamond HCP? any reviews on these speakers? mura na kasi sya for a set eh..good for starters na ba? planning to pair it with a yamaha avr.

egzbuen · « **Reply #85 on:** May 07, 2014 at 08:31 AM »

Quote from: [dcw]aaron on May 06, 2014 at 12:15 PM

anyone who owns this Wharfedale Diamond HCP? any reviews on these speakers? mura na kasi sya for a set eh..good for starters na ba? planning to pair it with a yamaha avr.

I've read reviews here at PDVD saying that Wharfes pair well with Yammys. Since I had in mind these speakers and/or AAudio, I got a brand new Yammy few weeks back for my new condo.

Just reading more reviews now to decide which speakers to get.

easydeal · « **Reply #86 on:** Jul 14, 2014 at 07:34 PM »

I auditioned the 155 and it was impressive. Very warm sounding ... vocals and instruments were clear, driven by Denon. Pero when we loaded movies, it completely lacked the highs. We changed the receiver to HK and maxed out the treble and gumanda siya (actually sobra sa high but at least I know meron ibibigay). Unfortunately when we tried this 155 with HK on audio, it wasn't as good anymore.

Am wondering if anyone is using this with Yamaha, and Kung ok ba siya? It's so affordable that I would like to consider this well. Thanks!

egzbuen · « **Reply #87 on:** Jul 16, 2014 at 06:14 PM »

I already got the center from the 100series. Just haven't had the time to hook it up. Still in the box for 2 months already. Pairing it with my Yammy 7.1 hope it goes well

jeffry10 · « **Reply #88 on:** Jul 18, 2014 at 01:24 PM »

wow. eggie. wharfedale and yamaha. sounds like a great set

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jeffry10 · « **Reply #89 on:** Jul 18, 2014 at 02:24 PM »

maganda daw yung jade series ?