Author Topic: 4K Ultra HD (Read 159797 times)

Ice Storm · « **Reply #90 on:** Oct 09, 2014 at 04:19 AM »

Even for 4K-native PC gaming?

xgh0st12x · « **Reply #91 on:** Oct 09, 2014 at 05:24 AM »

That sir is a good question. Since i was limited to mostly to current gen game consoles when i was looking online, didnt bother to check for native 4k games for pc.

Ice Storm · « **Reply #92 on:** Oct 09, 2014 at 11:46 AM »

Any upscaling really causes input lag. Nothing new.

Verbl Kint · « **Reply #93 on:** Oct 09, 2014 at 12:37 PM »

Prices are a lot cheaper than posted above for some of the niche brands in the Philippines. I'll try to move some photos from my phone so you guys can see it here.

Toslink · « **Reply #94 on:** Oct 09, 2014 at 02:13 PM »

try to check kung saan gawa mga panels ng may mga input lag na 4KTV (Samsung or LG) usually made in outside Korea (Mexico, etc) according to LG/Samsung, only their bigger size high end panels are made in Korea - 78" 4KTV and above to ensure panels quality are within their specs - didn't experienced input lag on LG's 79" UB980T - played with it for almost 3 weeks xbox 360/ps4/pc - 3 different units, eto yung time na puro may backlight bleed/flashlight effects ang nakukuha kong units and decided to exchanged it for Samsung 78" Curved (HU9000), on my 78" Curved, no input lag din, my son even streamed his game (fast action games) from his bedroom pc to his laptop connected to my TV (via LAN)i - no input lag!!

... all inputs on both TVs are upscaled to their default resolutions which is 4K - and the experience is FANTASTIC!!!!

xgh0st12x · « **Reply #95 on:** Oct 09, 2014 at 02:24 PM »

Quote from: Ice Storm on Oct 09, 2014 at 11:46 AM

Any upscaling really causes input lag. Nothing new.

This i know. That's why i was hoping there was a way to turn off 4k upscaling in game mode (pang movies na lang yung 4k upscaling kung baga) but then again, why buy a 4k display only to downscale it to 1080p? Lol!

the_w0rks · « **Reply #96 on:** Oct 09, 2014 at 03:55 PM »

Quote from: xgh0st12x on Oct 09, 2014 at 03:48 AM

As a gamer, i did a little research on this. Apparently di pala maganda ang current models of 4k tvs for gaming. Even on game mode. The upscaling of graphics to 4k causes noticeable input lag. Pass muna for this year and maybe next until they fix this.

this is for console gaming right? since most console games are at 720p and a few at 1080p.

sa PC kaya kasi ng 4k resolution so I'm guessing that won't be a prob for PC gaming? (I'm using a big screen tv for my pc gaming.pero not 4k yet. hehe)

Waxx · « **Reply #97 on:** Oct 09, 2014 at 04:33 PM »

this input lag made me decide against going 4k. was very interested in the upscaling, till i heard about the lag..

im glad i skipped 4k for now..

and most new gen consoles, they dont have 4k support rin.

plus 4k has no available content pa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i10NCPnJq_E

Ice Storm · « **Reply #98 on:** Oct 09, 2014 at 05:14 PM »

Quote from: Verbl Kint on Oct 09, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Prices are a lot cheaper than posted above for some of the niche brands in the Philippines. I'll try to move some photos from my phone so you guys can see it here.

I saw the phenomenal prices of TCL and excluded them as I could not find pricing on sulit for 65" or larger models.

zechs · « **Reply #99 on:** Oct 09, 2014 at 11:08 PM »

Skyworth na 4K uhdtv, ok ba? I think its about 50-ish?

Ice Storm · « **Reply #100 on:** Oct 10, 2014 at 01:20 AM »

While I was looking over 4K TVs I noticed that the cheap ones only have HDMI 1.4. This will limit resolution to 4K at 30p. The HDMI 2.0 spec has 4k at 60p.

Ice Storm · « **Reply #101 on:** Oct 11, 2014 at 09:00 PM »

Other than the Chinese brands what brands out there sell 4K TVs? I know Samsung, LG, Sony sell 4K TVs in the Philippines. Do Philips, Toshiba, Panasonic & Sharp offer here as well?

DTNS · « **Reply #102 on:** Oct 11, 2014 at 09:49 PM »

Quote from: Ice Storm on Oct 11, 2014 at 09:00 PM

Other than the Chinese brands what brands out there sell 4K TVs? I know Samsung, LG, Sony sell 4K TVs in the Philippines. Do Philips, Toshiba, Panasonic & Sharp offer here as well?

Toshiba sells their 84" 4K tv here. I think it costs around 555T.

zechs · « **Reply #103 on:** Oct 14, 2014 at 10:22 PM »

Yung lg may nilabas na mas maliit na screen 40UB800T. Parang buy one get one sa abensons.

zechs · « **Reply #104 on:** Oct 16, 2014 at 09:54 AM »

May sense ba na mag-4K UHD on such a small screen? I'm referring to the LG 40UB800T. Sm appliance and abensons buy 1 get 1 at 80Kphp.

DViant · « **Reply #105 on:** Oct 17, 2014 at 04:15 AM »

Apple came out with a 27-inch 5K display.

dopamine · « **Reply #106 on:** Oct 20, 2014 at 11:10 PM »

Quote from: zechs on Oct 16, 2014 at 09:54 AM

May sense ba na mag-4K UHD on such a small screen? I'm referring to the LG 40UB800T. Sm appliance and abensons buy 1 get 1 at 80Kphp.

Saw this unit at SM Megamall top floor, 35k benta nila spot cash.

nsp · « **Reply #107 on:** Oct 21, 2014 at 03:52 PM »

upscaling causes input lag. there's practically 0 4k content right now.
so what's the point of 4k today?
late 2016? probably. but 2014 to 2015? probably not.

jackryan · « **Reply #108 on:** Oct 21, 2014 at 06:44 PM »

I took the bait and ended up with the 55" LG UB85 4k panel...

If I continued to wait, I think the market will go beyond 4k models pretty soon... so will try to enjoy this as much as possible...

xgh0st12x · « **Reply #109 on:** Oct 21, 2014 at 09:41 PM »

^
Congrats!

Verbl Kint · « **Reply #110 on:** Oct 22, 2014 at 02:38 AM »

Quote from: jackryan on Oct 21, 2014 at 06:44 PM

I took the bait and ended up with the 55" LG UB85 4k panel...

Good choice! Anything smaller than 55" might just be a bit small for 4k.

Quote from: jackryan on Oct 21, 2014 at 06:44 PM

If I continued to wait, I think the market will go beyond 4k models pretty soon... so will try to enjoy this as much as possible...

I don't see 8k being practical until probably after 2021, to be honest, particularly since most film restorations are being done in 4k format.

zechs · « **Reply #111 on:** Oct 31, 2014 at 01:01 AM »

I'm eyeing the entry level UHD of Samsung, the HU7000. Ok kaya? 60hz native panel lang ata ito eh. Mas lamang pa yung H6400 (non-4K led) pero 120hz native panel. Yung HU7000 has 240hz clear motion rate while the H6400 has 480hz clear motion rate. Now I'm unsure what to get.

Stagea · « **Reply #112 on:** Oct 31, 2014 at 02:44 AM »

Quote from: nsp on Oct 21, 2014 at 03:52 PM

upscaling causes input lag. there's practically 0 4k content right now.
so what's the point of 4k today?
late 2016? probably. but 2014 to 2015? probably not.

Maybe the owner shoots video in 4K or watches streamed content in 4K?

Until Netflix, Amazon or Sony brings their 4K service here, we'd be waiting for 4K Blurays (expected next year).

john martin · « **Reply #113 on:** Oct 31, 2014 at 06:15 AM »

Sony has the best 4k tech imho, then Samsung, then LG fairs the last. Compared it side by side playing a 1080p HD download of Malificent.

DViant · « **Reply #114 on:** Oct 31, 2014 at 09:15 AM »

Quote from: Stagea on Oct 31, 2014 at 02:44 AM

Maybe the owner shoots video in 4K or watches streamed content in 4K?

Until Netflix, Amazon or Sony brings their 4K service here, we'd be waiting for 4K Blurays (expected next year).

on the consumer end GoPro has a 4K camera already. Some android smartphones have 4k video. Through a 3rd party app you can use your iphone to record 4k.

Outside of countries with 4k streaming services there are no 4k content.

This is a reason why I'm holding off purchase to as early as 2016.

4k computer display is lovely today.

Stagea · « **Reply #115 on:** Oct 31, 2014 at 11:42 PM »

Quote from: john martin on Oct 31, 2014 at 06:15 AM

Sony has the best 4k tech imho, then Samsung, then LG fairs the last. Compared it side by side playing a 1080p HD download of Malificent.

Best in what sense? Processing, scaling and factory calibration? Sony uses LG 4K panels, afaik.

DTNS · « **Reply #116 on:** Nov 01, 2014 at 12:56 AM »

I'm now considering the Samsung U28D590D 28" 4K monitor to replace my LG E2350V 23" Full HD monitor.

xgh0st12x · « **Reply #117 on:** Nov 01, 2014 at 01:21 AM »

^
How much is retail on that these days?

Stagea · « **Reply #118 on:** Nov 01, 2014 at 01:29 AM »

Quote from: DTNS on Nov 01, 2014 at 12:56 AM

I'm now considering the Samsung U28D590D 28" 4K monitor to replace my LG E2350V 23" Full HD monitor.

Nice! GTX 980 or R9 290X would be great with that.

I hope Windows 10 fixes the current scaling issues.

DTNS · « **Reply #119 on:** Nov 01, 2014 at 01:30 AM »

Quote from: xgh0st12x on Nov 01, 2014 at 01:21 AM

^
How much is retail on that these days?

29,900