Author Topic: 4K Ultra HD (Read 159815 times)

DTNS · « **Reply #210 on:** Feb 05, 2015 at 11:51 PM »

Quote from: raptor on Feb 05, 2015 at 05:22 PM

was also at Abensons yesterday, dami ng 4K na less than 100k ... napansin ko lang nawala na mga OLED, at yung mga curved models mas makapal sa flat LED ... have they stopped developing OLED? or wala lang dito sa atin ... i was expecting na boom na yung technology this year

I think it's because of the price. OLED is priced waaay out of reach of most consumers. $:-\$

Stagea · « **Reply #211 on:** Feb 06, 2015 at 02:34 AM »

Quote from: DTNS on Feb 05, 2015 at 11:51 PM

I think it's because of the price. OLED is priced waaay out of reach of most consumers. $:-\$

Plus the fact that despite the high price, LG and Samsung are losing money on OLED TV sales. Manufacturing cost is still very high at this point (partly because of BOM, and partly because of low yields). The makers won't push a product that they don't make money from. The high initial investment and development costs are apparently what stopped Panasonic and Sony from dipping their hands into an OLED joint venture.

If their fabs progress as expected, LG is projecting that they can start to break even on this product by the latter part of this year (I doubt Samsung would be behind on this). LG and Samsung are in such tough competition to get this product to the market that they are suspecting that corporate espionage is happening. Once the tech becomes truly profitable, the panel makers will surely ramp production and start pushing them to the shelves. Once they reach this point, they will start milking the technology with sustained premium pricing to pay for the original investment until other producers get the capability to deliver competing products.

Right now the 4 big panel makers are:
1. LG Display (Korea)
2. Samsung (Korea)
3. Innolux Corp. (Taiwan) - formerly ChiMei
4. AU Optronics (Taiwan) - formerly Acer Display

Most TV makers just source from these 4 panel makers. The largest Japanese panel maker (Sharp) is now a small niche player when compared to the market shares of the top 4.

The Taiwanese panel makers (Innolux and AUO) are closing the gap in terms of LCD performance, but they they may take some time to bring the fight to OLED (based on the time they took to develop their LCD tech).

CMac · « **Reply #212 on:** Feb 06, 2015 at 08:43 AM »

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brutalpanda · « **Reply #213 on:** Feb 15, 2015 at 09:39 PM »

Guys,

Any thoughts on LG 42UB820T? Is it worth the plunge or should I get a FHD TV instead for the price?

Thanks!

raptor · « **Reply #214 on:** Feb 16, 2015 at 01:56 AM »

Quote from: brutalpanda on Feb 15, 2015 at 09:39 PM

Guys,

Any thoughts on LG 42UB820T? Is it worth the plunge or should I get a FHD TV instead for the price?

Thanks!

I would recommend a bigger size if you're plunging into the 4k technology to enjoy it more

brutalpanda · « **Reply #215 on:** Feb 16, 2015 at 10:30 PM »

Quote from: raptor on Feb 16, 2015 at 01:56 AM

I would recommend a bigger size if you're plunging into the 4k technology to enjoy it more

Thanks! What about HD cable TV box content? Would it still look good on a 4k screen? Like Sky Cable's HD channels?

Stagea · « **Reply #216 on:** Feb 17, 2015 at 08:08 AM »

Quote from: brutalpanda on Feb 16, 2015 at 10:30 PM

Thanks! What about HD cable TV box content? Would it still look good on a 4k screen? Like Sky Cable's HD channels?

Not as good as native 4k content, but it will still look good.

speed_kills · « **Reply #217 on:** Feb 19, 2015 at 02:17 PM »

4K TV owners, I'm curious, I noticed that 4K TV brands are advertising upscaling effect.

Does it mean that even though you are playing a 1080p content, screen quality is better than a regular HDTV?

skooter · « **Reply #218 on:** Feb 19, 2015 at 08:30 PM »

hi folks, been eyeing the 64HU7200 but haven't found any review in the net, i wonder does anybody here got one?

brutalpanda · « **Reply #219 on:** Feb 26, 2015 at 12:28 PM »

Just to update guys, got the LG 42UB820T. Although small for 4K, I'm quite satisfied. Got it for aa very cheap price too - 28k to be exact!

DTNS · « **Reply #220 on:** Feb 26, 2015 at 06:24 PM »

I got to see the Samsung 55HU7200 Curved UHD tv at an Abenson's branch the other day. IMO, its PQ and black levels are really nice!

VenoM_Unleashed · « **Reply #221 on:** Feb 26, 2015 at 06:36 PM »

Quote from: brutalpanda on Feb 26, 2015 at 12:28 PM

Just to update guys, got the LG 42UB820T. Although small for 4K, I'm quite satisfied. Got it for aa very cheap price too - 28k to be exact!

Sir, saan mo nabili? Saka konting review sa TV kung may time kayo. TY

noah727 · « **Reply #222 on:** Feb 27, 2015 at 10:43 AM »

I saw Devant 50" 4K Smart 3D TV selling now for P39k. Anyone bought a Devant 4K, pls share your experience. Thanks.

AC · « **Reply #223 on:** Feb 27, 2015 at 11:30 AM »

ako nangangarap parin on a 79" lg tv... hehehe

meron ba size betweek 65 and 79? or wala?

Courage · « **Reply #224 on:** Feb 27, 2015 at 12:52 PM »

Quote from: AC on Feb 27, 2015 at 11:30 AM

ako nangangarap parin on a 79" lg tv... hehehe

meron ba size betweek 65 and 79? or wala?

Ganda ng LG 79UB980T na naka display sa Ansons.. Kaso 400k

Ganda din ng LG84LA9800 kaso 849k naman

Sa panaginip ko lang sila mabibili.. hayyzzzzz...

♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ · « **Reply #225 on:** Feb 27, 2015 at 01:50 PM »

Samsung 65hu9000 Curved 4K TV, around 205K pesos...
Samsung 78hu9000 Curved 4K TV, around 290K pesos...

Between 65" and 79"
Sony KD-70X8500B 4K LED Smart TV, around 225K pesos
Samsung UA75h6400 but Full HD only, around 210K pesos

AC · « **Reply #226 on:** Feb 27, 2015 at 03:18 PM »

thank you po mga sir...

sa olx nasa 280k yata yung 79"
nasa 380k yung 84"

last year.. nung bumaba yung 75"F8000 muntik muntik na... 180k.. hehehe
nanhinayang kaya nag antay pa uli.. dahil may 4k lalabas... pag bumaba sana 79" hehehe kayalang malayo pa sa presyong gusto ko e..

nakikita ko kasi lg 65" tapos 79" na agad.. akala ko meron in between.. mga 72" hehe

turismo1997 · « **Reply #227 on:** Feb 27, 2015 at 10:55 PM »

Im down to these three:

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LG 65UB980
SAMSUNG 65HU8500
SONY 65X850B

yung lg top of the line. While samsung and sony is one step down.

LG and Samsung pareho ng price. Sony is 20k more expensive per sir vic's price in olx. If magdecide ako sa sony. Baka maghaggle ako kay sir vic to remove the free ps4 para pareho na sila ng price.

Curiously, parang downgraded yung version ng sammy compared to UE version or I might be looking at a diff model.

Notable yung pagkawala ng camera and ome connect box pwr sm appl. Will check ansons na lang to recon.

Lancito · « **Reply #228 on:** Feb 28, 2015 at 12:14 AM »

Masama experience ni Toslink sa LG 79UB980T due to light bleeding and clouding ata. He changed 3 times ganun pa din. Meron bang may good experience dito sa same model?

ABCmotorparts · « **Reply #229 on:** Feb 28, 2015 at 07:50 AM »

Quote from: AC on Feb 27, 2015 at 11:30 AM

ako nangangarap parin on a 79" lg tv... hehehe

meron ba size betweek 65 and 79? or wala?

Sir the Samsung 75UH8550 is BEAUTIFUL,..!

Am just waiting for the newer 2015 models para may comparison,...
But so far, this is one BEAUTIFUL 4K unit, ang bilis rin ng processor compare sa mga naunang smart TV nila.

Naglabas na ng patikim ang SONY:
http://www.cnet.com/news/sony-4k-tvs-coming-in-may-starting-at-1300-according-to-leak/

Then naglabas na rin ang LG:
http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/lg-pricing-availability-2015-4k-uhd-tvs/

My choices are either Sony or Samsung lang naman, so we'll see,... Cheers

Stagea · « **Reply #230 on:** Feb 28, 2015 at 07:56 AM »

Quote from: AC on Feb 27, 2015 at 03:18 PM

last year.. nung bumaba yung 75"F8000 muntik muntik na... 180k.. hehehe
nanhinayang kaya nag antay pa uli.. dahil may 4k lalabas... pag bumaba sana 79" hehehe kayalang malayo pa sa presyong gusto ko e..

nakikita ko kasi lg 65" tapos 79" na agad.. akala ko meron in between.. mga 72" hehe

Sharp has 70" UHD panels. Their UHD TVs are THX Certified.

♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ · « **Reply #231 on:** Feb 28, 2015 at 10:40 AM »

Quote from: Stagea on Feb 28, 2015 at 07:56 AM

Sharp has 70" UHD panels. Their UHD TVs are THX Certified.

Master Ivan, locally available na ba ito?

Stagea · « **Reply #232 on:** Mar 01, 2015 at 02:03 PM »

Quote from: ♡ Louie_18™ ✌ on Feb 28, 2015 at 10:40 AM

Master Ivan, locally available na ba ito?

Master Louie, I have not seen them locally. I have not been checking though baka meron naman (kung wala sa local distributor, baka grey units meron).

They have three lines in that size for 2015:
Beyond 4K (Flagship) - THX 4K Cert, Quattron+ Panel
Aquos UH30 (High End) - THX 4K Cert, Wide Gamut RGB Panel
Aquos UE30 (Mid Level) - Mainstream Large Panel 4K

Prior 70" 4K models were from the UD27 (2014) and UD1 (2013) lines.

http://www.thx.com/consumer/home-entertainment/thx-4k-certified-displays/

comet · « **Reply #233 on:** Mar 01, 2015 at 02:45 PM »

Parang may nakita akong 70in na 4k models ng sharp sa last december na brochure ng abenson

Lancito · « **Reply #234 on:** Mar 01, 2015 at 11:00 PM »

Sharp 2014 models are 110-220v fyi.

Lancito · « **Reply #235 on:** Mar 01, 2015 at 11:37 PM »

Sobra ganda ng PQ ng OLED ng LG. Ang itim ng blacks sobra. Sana mag mura na sya agad. Ito lang kasing ganda ng plasma.

turismo1997 · « **Reply #236 on:** Mar 02, 2015 at 06:18 AM »

SM Aura Imax has one showing snippets from upcoming movies. Maganda nga at sobrang nipis.

Stagea · « **Reply #237 on:** Mar 02, 2015 at 06:27 AM »

Quote from: Lancito on Mar 01, 2015 at 11:37 PM

Sobra ganda ng PQ ng OLED ng LG. Ang itim ng blacks sobra. Sana mag mura na sya agad. Ito lang kasing ganda ng plasma.

OLED is well beyond Plasma in contrast ratio and color gamut. The technology is being limited by the source material available, however. Currently available materials were designed for less capable display technologies (Rec.709 color space).

Only OLED panels are capable of reproducing the Rec.2020 color space faithfully at this moment. They are trying to further develop Laser and LED projectors and Quantum Dot LCD panels to get there however (as cheaper options to OLED).

HDR, Rec.2020 and Deep Color are now supported by the UHD Bluray standard. If film production companies utilize these properly, OLED will start showing its true capability. I think most will take some time to do so however, as most theaters cannot display that level of image quality (nor would the production companies have the equipment to fully maximize these technologies). Dolby Vision (one of the HDR specs) contrast ratio is 10x that of the best plasma TV measured. Netflix is readying HDR UHD material ahead of UHD Blurays. This should look awesome on HDR displays (I hope they start adopting Rec.2020 and Deep Color as well).

Color space improvement:

As you can see, Rec.2020 covers a wider range of what humans can perceive (the colored shape is the extent of human color vision). This allows for a more realistic image. With display technology improvements, they are getting closer to a "glass window" when it comes to image quality.

Stagea · « **Reply #238 on:** Mar 02, 2015 at 10:59 AM »

On the LCD end, QD backlighting on LG's and Samsung's flagship LCD panels are allowing wider color gamuts and greater contrast ratios.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7aqJpKfPC0

The Taiwanese makers should not have much difficulty following this route (manufacturing these would not be as intricate or as costly as OLED manufacturing).

CeeV · « **Reply #239 on:** Mar 02, 2015 at 11:44 AM »

The new 2015 LG UF7600 series....Quantum Dots technology na kaya? It says in the article..."Color Prime Technology"...is it same as the quantum dots tech? Looks like Samsung and LG are really hell bent on outdoing each other...am kinda incline sa LG..ang ganda tlaga.