Topic: 4K Ultra HD

[vodkaice]

SAMSUNG The Frame TV

Displays artwork when not in use.

Finally, a competitor to Sharp's Wallpaper mode!

I spent the entire December looking for local Sharp models that have this feature... kaso halos lahat wala, only the top-end "8K" Aquos and older overpriced models na HD pa. I even went to 2 Ansons, 1 Abenson and 1 Western Appliance but none of the Sharp reps knew the feature.

In the end I stopped looking and set my sights on LG instead.

[newbie pa rin]

Question naman just curious as im planning on getting a new set of tv. If im streaming netflix/iflix would there be a difference if im using a 4k tv against full hd tv? Will the 4k tv display better than the FHD since it will upscale the source to 4k? Im eyeing the sharp 60 FHD against TCL 65 P2 model. Or it will not matter as these are not top of the line model.
Thanks to those who will reply.

[richardcruz]

Question naman just curious as im planning on getting a new set of tv. If im streaming netflix/iflix would there be a difference if im using a 4k tv against full hd tv? Will the 4k tv display better than the FHD since it will upscale the source to 4k? Im eyeing the sharp 60 FHD against TCL 65 P2 model. Or it will not matter as these are not top of the line model.
Thanks to those who will reply.

I have Samsung 4k curved. Yes, there is a difference even just watching FHD on Netflix, on a 4k set but you'll surely appreciate a 4k set even more when watching Netflix 4k material and they're growing their library. I haven't seen the 2 TV's you mentioned, but I would instinctively prefer the Sharp based on brand alone.

[Stagea]

Question naman just curious as im planning on getting a new set of tv. If im streaming netflix/iflix would there be a difference if im using a 4k tv against full hd tv? Will the 4k tv display better than the FHD since it will upscale the source to 4k? Im eyeing the sharp 60 FHD against TCL 65 P2 model. Or it will not matter as these are not top of the line model.
Thanks to those who will reply.

Watch them side by side to validate. I happen to have 60" FHD and 65" UHD TVs, and I am not bothered by the FHD pixels from 8 feet away. If you like filling your field of view (sitting close to the TV), then UHD is definitely an improvement (especially if you are watching UHD sources). UHD at that size will look great even if you sit 4 to 6 feet away from the screen.

[ninjababez®]

Watch them side by side to validate. I happen to have 60" FHD and 65" UHD TVs, and I am not bothered by the FHD pixels from 8 feet away. If you like filling your field of view (sitting close to the TV), then UHD is definitely an improvement (especially if you are watching UHD sources). UHD at that size will look great even if you sit 4 to 6 feet away from the screen.

pansin ko master bago ako bumili nun 4k tv; dapat FHD lang kukunin ko, kaso yun upscaling nun 4k vs dun sa FHD mas maganda lumalabas dun sa 4k.  480p and 720p lang pala pinang test ko.  baka dahil mas mataas na model yung 4k?

btw same brand pala ito master, magkamukha din panel and stand.  though obvious yun pagka "cheap" nung 1080p display

[Stagea]

pansin ko master bago ako bumili nun 4k tv; dapat FHD lang kukunin ko, kaso yun upscaling nun 4k vs dun sa FHD mas maganda lumalabas dun sa 4k.  480p and 720p lang pala pinang test ko.  baka dahil mas mataas na model yung 4k?

btw same brand pala ito master, magkamukha din panel and stand.  though obvious yun pagka "cheap" nung 1080p display

UHD models typically get more capable processors/scalers. 720p is also an integer scale to UHD (3x of horizontal and vertical pixel count), which results in a lossless translation. 720p to 1080p is a 1.5x scale, and will never be as good (with everything else being the same).

[Stagea]

The best 720p to 1080p scalers will scale 720p up to UHD internally, then scale it back down to 1080p. This is the cleanest conversion possible (which is still not as good as just 720p to UHD)

[ninjababez®]

^thanks master!  i was in the impression that the 720p to 1080p and 1080p to 4k is the same ratio

[Stagea]

^thanks master!  i was in the impression that the 720p to 1080p and 1080p to 4k is the same ratio

That's part of the beauty of UHD resolution. Properly done integer conversions do not cause any loss of data.

480p OS (432p) to UHD: 5x linear, 25x pixel count
HD (720p) to UHD: 3x linear, 9x pixel count
FHD (1080p) to UHD: 2x linear, 4x pixel count

480p OS (432p) to 1080p: 2.5x linear, 6.25x pixel count
HD (720p) to 1080p: 1.5x linear, 2.25x pixel count
UHD (2160p) to 1080p: 0.5x linear, 0.25x pixel count

[Stagea]

BT.2020 HDR/WCG (Ultra High Def HDR) vs. BT.709 (High Def) in terms of color volume:



X Axes - Color Space
Y Axis - Intensity in Nits


As we can see, UHD HDR TVs have much bigger shoes to fill. No current TV can display the entire BT.2020 space, so there is a lot of space to grow. A lot of current TVs do better than the BT.709 spec.

[ninjababez®]

BT.2020 HDR/WCG (Ultra High Def HDR) vs. BT.709 (High Def) in terms of color volume:



X Axes - Color Space
Y Axis - Intensity in Nits


As we can see, UHD HDR TVs have much bigger shoes to fill. No current TV can display the entire BT.2020 space, so there is a lot of space to grow. A lot of current TVs do better than the BT.709 spec.

nice, ibig sabihin nito master "future proof" yun UHD tvs now?

[Stagea]

nice, ibig sabihin nito master "future proof" yun UHD tvs now?

Ibig sabihin nyan hindi limiting factor sa image quality ang current data formats, if you take compression out of the equation. Even the best screens available cannot display the entire gamut spec nor deliver that intensity range.

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[amalvar]

reco please for best

65' uhd hdr tv under P85k

[♡ lvcdg23™ ✌]

reco please for best

65' uhd hdr tv under P85k

65MU6100 srp 109,999 cash 88,000

65ks7500 65" curve suhd smart tv
srp: 159,999
cash: 85,900

65ku6000 65" uhd smart tv
cash 68,000

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,212686.msg2511123.html#msg2511123

[PRIME]

Please help.  Between LG 65Uj6320 (65k) & Samsung 65ku6000 (68k), torn between these two models.  I'm planning to buythis coming July mga sirs...  Your inputs will be highly appreciated.

Thank you inadvance!

[Stagea]

Please help.  Between LG 65Uj6320 (65k) & Samsung 65ku6000 (68k), torn between these two models.  I'm planning to buythis coming July mga sirs...  Your inputs will be highly appreciated.

Thank you inadvance!

I'm not a fan of RGBW or IPS panels on TVs, so I'd gravitate towards the KU6000. Test both TVs for yourself, factor in your brand bias, consider aftersales support, then decide on which one suits you.

[stickfighter]

Please help.  Between LG 65Uj6320 (65k) & Samsung 65ku6000 (68k), torn between these two models.  I'm planning to buythis coming July mga sirs...  Your inputs will be highly appreciated.

Thank you inadvance!

I just got my Samsung 65ku6000. I am quite happy with its performance. I don't regret getting this. For me it was a choice between this and the Sony.

[gutierrez]

How about Samsung 55MU7000 for 68k? Successor of the KS7000?  Need expert opinion before I decide to buy.

[Stagea]

How about Samsung 55MU7000 for 68k? Successor of the KS7000?  Need expert opinion before I decide to buy.

It's not a successor to the KS7000. Its performance is above the KU series, but below the KS series.

[shoktongxxx]

ito palang KU series eh, HDMI 1 port lang ang UHD. 

[45caliber]

ito palang KU series eh, HDMI 1 port lang ang UHD. 
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ito palang KU series eh, HDMI 1 port lang ang UHD. 

you mean yung port lang ng HDMI/DVI ang UHD?

[shoktongxxx]

you mean yung port lang ng HDMI/DVI ang UHD?

yup! sya lang..ibang port full HD lang. 

[45caliber]

yup! sya lang..ibang port full HD lang. 

ang ginagamit ko pa naman ay yung HDMI 2.. may noticeable difference ba kung galing sa reciever yung output? using a xiaomi mi box as player..

[shoktongxxx]

ang ginagamit ko pa naman ay yung HDMI 2.. may noticeable difference ba kung galing sa reciever yung output? using a xiaomi mi box as player..

yup! PS4 Pro can tell the difference.

[shoktongxxx]

yup! sya lang..ibang port full HD lang. 

correction pala yung HDMI port 2 & 3 is 4k but not UHD. yung HDMI port 1 lang ang 4K UHD.

[45caliber]

correction pala yung HDMI port 2 & 3 is 4k but not UHD. yung HDMI port 1 lang ang 4K UHD.

saan po nakuha yung info?

[shoktongxxx]

saan po nakuha yung info?

own experience po.

[♡ lvcdg23™ ✌]

correction pala yung HDMI port 2 & 3 is 4k but not UHD. yung HDMI port 1 lang ang 4K UHD.

What do you mean brader?
Diba 4K and UHD (Ultra-HD) are the same?
Baka you mean brader 4K HDR...

[shoktongxxx]

What do you mean brader?
Diba 4K and UHD (Ultra-HD) are the same?
Baka you mean brader 4K HDR...

sorry! yes 4K HDR nga..thank you brader..he he

[mhacman]

may ganyan pala sa samsung!!!  wierd, bakit hindi ginawang pare-parehas.  how much cost ang natipid nila going with only single HDR HDMI port =(

kawawa nakabili, say, user has HDR bluray, PS4 Pro & a HDR media player... well, malamang bibili si user ng HDR-capable receiver para nka-ARC nlang siya sa Sammy HDMI 1 hehe