Topic: Backlight bleeding in less than a month -- is this normal?

[Klaus____]

Last July 5, my brother and I bought our very first LED TVs. Sa kanya 'yung 39E22 at sa akin 'yung 42E38. Nitong July 20, napansin ko na may bleeding na sa four corners of the screen ng TV ko. (July 22 nang napansin ng brother ko na meron na ring bleeding sa TV nya) Hindi naman sya visible while watching movies. Actually, kahit sa mga dark scenes balewala lang. My main concern is -- if the bleeding showed up in less than a month (15 days, to be exact), what would it look like in a year, or two years (duration of warranty)? Would that affect my TV viewing then? I have taken pictures of the bleeding so you could actually see what I see. (same Picture Mode)

Here is the picture taken last July 20. As you can see, the bleeding can only be seen on the four corners of the screen.



Here is the picture just now (July 24). Noticeably, the bleeding is starting to build up as well on the upper and lower portions of the screen, NOT only on the four corners.


These units are actually for replacement already, and we are just waiting for stocks to come in. Isa pang concern ko is baka 'yung ipapalit na units ay magkaroon din ng similar issues. If that would be the case, we would be forced to have them replaced again, but it would probably be to another brand/model. That being said, siguro I would be needing your opinions mga master kung anong brand/model ang better replacements.


Direct links of images:
http://i.imgur.com/J3ExOxy.jpg - July 20
http://i.imgur.com/8rAuSU5.jpg - July 24

[pekspert]

thats a very common issue with led's, yours isnt that bad pa nga. My samsung has worst big bright spots than those.

[Tempter]

Just enjoy effinn... Movie.

Forget about the bleeding or use a crt instead

[Klaus____]

Just enjoy effinn... Movie.

Forget about the bleeding or use a crt instead

I admire your insight, sir!  I think you may have skipped the part where I mentioned what my main concern is. Hence, you weren't able to see that I was asking what it would be like in a year...or two years time.  Thanks!

[Ron_21]

ganan din yung 42ls5700 ko pagmadilim. pero may angle lang na makikita mo sya.

[Klaus____]

ganan din yung 42ls5700 ko pagmadilim. pero may angle lang na makikita mo sya.

Ilang taon na po unit nyo, sir? Ganyan din unit nyo, meaning kahit may pinapanood ay visible sya?

[Nelson de Leon]

Just enjoy effinn... Movie.

Forget about the bleeding or use a crt instead

Magandang quote for the day ito. 

[Ron_21]

Ilang taon na po unit nyo, sir? Ganyan din unit nyo, meaning kahit may pinapanood ay visible sya?

7months. hindi naman sya pansinin pag nanonood.

[Allan_2180]

its normal for LED TVs esp edge-lit LED TVs displaying black image...
more obvious pag patay pa mga ilaw.

[HDMI]

For some tv models (edge lit LED) that's normal. If you are particular on the bleeding, I noticed those high end Samsung models have better uniformity. Or you can consider plasma.

[the_w0rks]

ganan din yung 42ls5700 ko pagmadilim. pero may angle lang na makikita mo sya.

my 11-month old LS5700 also has some slight bleeding but only noticeable pag widescreen movies. That's the only time na mapapansin but it's not as bad as what yosiboi posted.

[Klaus____]

thats a very common issue with led's, yours isnt that bad pa nga. My samsung has worst big bright spots than those.

Sa ngayon po (less than a month), pero paano na pag more than a year na ang unit?

Magandang quote for the day ito. 

7months. hindi naman sya pansinin pag nanonood.

Ganun din unit ko, sir! Kaso nga less than a month pa lang, "dinatnan" na 

its normal for LED TVs esp edge-lit LED TVs displaying black image...
more obvious pag patay pa mga ilaw.

Ang pagkakasabi po kasi sa 'kin ng salesman ay D-LED daw 'yung Skyworth model na nakuha ko. They even have a brochure for it (E38), pero nawala ko na yata 'yung brochure sayang!

For some tv models (edge lit LED) that's normal. If you are particular on the bleeding, I noticed those high end Samsung models have better uniformity. Or you can consider plasma.

Speaking of Plasma, ilan nga ba ang average wattage ng Plasma TVs, and nasa magkano naman kaya ang difference sa electric bill pag Plasma ang gamit mo?  (pero OT na 'yun, so nevermind my question po)

my 11-month old LS5700 also has some slight bleeding but only noticeable pag widescreen movies. That's the only time na mapapansin but it's not as bad as what yosiboi posted.

Mapapansin lang naman 'yung bleeding ng unit ko kapag naglilipat ng channel or kung blocked channel ang hinintuan ko. Ang kinakatakot ko lang talaga ay baka pagtagal ay maging ganito kasakit ang ulo ko pag lumala:
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,167985.0.html

[chrisbulog]

Maganda siguro mods, paki merge ito sa post ko, since same problem kami

thanks

[the_w0rks]

yeah but normal lang yung bleeding talaga pag edge lit. even top tier tvs still suffer from bleeding basta edge-lit. yung thread na nilink mo was about a plasma tv yata that went byebye bigla. I doubt if the backlight bleeding will cause your tv to die ng biglaan.

best option for tipid sa kuryente (pero sobrang mahal ng presyo) - full-array backlight with local dimming.
best option if kuryente is not an issue- plasma (usually ranging ang wattage from 200+ to 300+)

[chrisbulog]

yeah but normal lang yung bleeding talaga pag edge lit. even top tier tvs still suffer from bleeding basta edge-lit. yung thread na nilink mo was about a plasma tv yata that went byebye bigla. I doubt if the backlight bleeding will cause your tv to die ng biglaan.

Nope Sir my post is about my edge lit LED na nag backlight bleeding na rin (kung normal ba ito), also bought July 6 lang (MY VIEW brand). Then after a week BOOM lumala na yung bleedings. You & Sir Philip has some insights also sa thread ko, I was saying that I regret buying LED na sana plasma na lang binili ko since power consumption is ok naman sa akin kung may peace of mind naman ako hehe.


Since same kami ng dilemma ni Sir TS, kaya sana suggestion ko is merge the thread with mine, since I posted mine earlier with the same problem.

[anya618]

assuming lang di na pwede ibalik ang tv for replacement, only option is to watch with lights on para di halata yung backlight bleeding?

[Tempter]

When you say LOCAL DIMMING, ito ba yung feature ng Hi-End Samsung na MICRO-DIMMING? hmmmm...

To the TS:

   Don't get me wrong, hehe!!! Normal talaga yan sa LED tv or LCD tv for that matter. Parang the less you spend the more the bleeding... Inversely proportional sa bleeding ng bulsa mo hehe!!!

   As for me, as long as acceptable naman sya for normal viewing, will not be bothered. Ngayon kung dumating ang time na maputla na talaga ang picture no matter what the setting, then Houston, we have a problem.

[Tempter]

Nope Sir my post is about my edge lit LED na nag backlight bleeding na rin (kung normal ba ito), also bought July 6 lang (MY VIEW brand). Then after a week BOOM lumala na yung bleedings. You & Sir Philip has some insights also sa thread ko, I was saying that I regret buying LED na sana plasma na lang binili ko since power consumption is ok naman sa akin kung may peace of mind naman ako hehe.


Since same kami ng dilemma ni Sir TS, kaya sana suggestion ko is merge the thread with mine, since I posted mine earlier with the same problem.

Plasma also has its CONs.

Unless you watch almost always in dark room then it will be better for you. Malakas kasi reflection nito parang CRT tv. At mas wide ang viewing angle nya. Actually, yan din sana kukunin ko, pero I'm glad I went for a LED tv since sa room ko nilagay at kaharap nya ay isang dambuhalang bintana!

[the_w0rks]

Nope Sir my post is about my edge lit LED na nag backlight bleeding na rin (kung normal ba ito), also bought July 6 lang (MY VIEW brand). Then after a week BOOM lumala na yung bleedings. You & Sir Philip has some insights also sa thread ko, I was saying that I regret buying LED na sana plasma na lang binili ko since power consumption is ok naman sa akin kung may peace of mind naman ako hehe.


Since same kami ng dilemma ni Sir TS, kaya sana suggestion ko is merge the thread with mine, since I posted mine earlier with the same problem.

haha nauna lang yung post mo sir but that was in reply to yosiboi's post, not yours.

assuming lang di na pwede ibalik ang tv for replacement, only option is to watch with lights on para di halata yung backlight bleeding?

i read that having a bias lighting helps daw. i keep forgetting to try it kasi wala akong mahanap dito. I haven't had time to check hardware stores yet though.

yung ganito:

http://www.amazon.com/Antec-Halo-LED-Bias-Lighting/dp/B0053B347M

[anya618]

^kaso magwork lang yata yan sir if nakawall mount yung tv?

[the_w0rks]

^kaso magwork lang yata yan sir if nakawall mount yung tv?

or if nakastand basta malapit sa wall sir. as long as the light bounces off.

[Klaus____]

To the TS:

   Don't get me wrong, hehe!!! Normal talaga yan sa LED tv or LCD tv for that matter. Parang the less you spend the more the bleeding... Inversely proportional sa bleeding ng bulsa mo hehe!!!

Hahaha! Natawa ako dito! 

Ngayon kung dumating ang time na maputla na talaga ang picture no matter what the setting, then Houston, we have a problem.

Dito ako kinakabahan! 

Since same kami ng dilemma ni Sir TS, kaya sana suggestion ko is merge the thread with mine, since I posted mine earlier with the same problem.

May point si sir chrisbulog  Nakita ko 'yung thread mo sa gallery, hanep! Sayang lang at bleeding na pala unit mo. 

i read that having a bias lighting helps daw. i keep forgetting to try it kasi wala akong mahanap dito. I haven't had time to check hardware stores yet though.

yung ganito:

http://www.amazon.com/Antec-Halo-LED-Bias-Lighting/dp/B0053B347M

Nice! Nakakatulong ba talaga 'to?

[anya618]

mas less ba ang chance ng backlight bleeding for bigger tvs like 50" and above?

[Tempter]

mas less ba ang chance ng backlight bleeding for bigger tvs like 50" and above?

IMHO, wala sa size, nasa model... I believe its the technology employed on higher end models that makes the difference.

[chrisbulog]

haha nauna lang yung post mo sir but that was in reply to yosiboi's post, not yours.

Ah ok Sir hehe, sorry sa misunderstanding.

Dun sa bias lighting, same lang ba yun nung mga led flourescent lights na nabibili sa Ace hardware?

I installed mine na color blue, it helped naman sa eye fatigue but sa backlight bleedings ganun pa rin e, at mas lalong naging visible sya hehe.

Here a pic nung 1st week nung LED ko, di pa gaano visible bleedings dito. Will post pic tomorrow nung bleedings na nya ngayon.

[the_w0rks]

Ah ok Sir hehe, sorry sa misunderstanding.

Dun sa bias lighting, same lang ba yun nung mga led flourescent lights na nabibili sa Ace hardware?

I installed mine na color blue, it helped naman sa eye fatigue but sa backlight bleedings ganun pa rin e, at mas lalong naging visible sya hehe.

Here a pic nung 1st week nung LED ko, di pa gaano visible bleedings dito. Will post pic tomorrow nung bleedings na nya ngayon.

same but might have a slightly different effect if it was white light.

[chrisbulog]

same but might have a slightly different effect if it was white light.

thanks sa suggestion, hanap ako white sa Ace to see if there's gonna be some improvements.

@TS pls try mo rin ito baka this will help u also

[Klaus____]

thanks sa suggestion, hanap ako white sa Ace to see if there's gonna be some improvements.

@TS pls try mo rin ito baka this will help u also

'Yun nga tatanong ko sana eh, if may scientific explanation ba na nagiging less ang bleeding or psychological lang 'to?  Pag na-replace na unit ko, bili ako nyan! Thanks!

[E-reply]

Nope Sir my post is about my edge lit LED na nag backlight bleeding na rin (kung normal ba ito), also bought July 6 lang (MY VIEW brand). Then after a week BOOM lumala na yung bleedings. You & Sir Philip has some insights also sa thread ko, I was saying that I regret buying LED na sana plasma na lang binili ko since power consumption is ok naman sa akin kung may peace of mind naman ako hehe.


Since same kami ng dilemma ni Sir TS, kaya sana suggestion ko is merge the thread with mine, since I posted mine earlier with the same problem.

Hello Chris, is your TV purchased from Sights and Sounds. If so, you can send it back and replace to upgrade for another TV.

This is how we take care of our customers. Buying a wrong choice of TV (either wrong size, wrong tech, plasma vs LED, not the right brand, not the right model, etc) is not an issue at Sights and Sounds. Sights and Sounds will not run away your money after you wish to return your wrong choice of purchase.

Here is our promise:
TV 30 Day Replacement Guarantee
In the event that a TV is defective within the first 30 days of the invoice date, Sights and Sounds will replace a new unit of the same model at no expense to the customer. This covers almost any defect [dead pixel, backlight bleeding, etc.] that cannot be repaired in home or office with simple troubleshooting or adjustment. Please simply contact Sights and Sounds by phone at 634-1789 to 90 with a description of any problem you may be having and we will arrange for a replacement unit.

[chrisbulog]

Hello Chris, is your TV purchased from Sights and Sounds. If so, you can send it back and replace to upgrade for another TV.

This is how we take care of our customers. Buying a wrong choice of TV (either wrong size, wrong tech, plasma vs LED, not the right brand, not the right model, etc) is not an issue at Sights and Sounds. Sights and Sounds will not run away your money after you wish to return your wrong choice of purchase.

Here is our promise:
TV 30 Day Replacement Guarantee
In the event that a TV is defective within the first 30 days of the invoice date, Sights and Sounds will replace a new unit of the same model at no expense to the customer. This covers almost any defect [dead pixel, backlight bleeding, etc.] that cannot be repaired in home or office with simple troubleshooting or adjustment. Please simply contact Sights and Sounds by phone at 634-1789 to 90 with a description of any problem you may be having and we will arrange for a replacement unit.

Sad to say Sir Vic, the unit was purchase outside pdvd, on sulit ko po ito nabili....at di maganda after sales nila.