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home media server
« Reply #30 on: Aug 17, 2013 at 07:38 AM »

baka di kayanan ng wdlive if 2 tv or media player magplay ng hd movies na sabayan or kaya ba sir?

how big is your collection pala?

Pwede ngang di kayanin. Collection ko is around 12TB up. Size per movie is 20GB up. You can try then sell if it doesn't work out. Its the cheaper option kasi. Dlink has a NAS also which fits 2 HDD and retails maybe less than 5k. You may look into that as well. Another would be to put a hard drive on the media player and access it on your pc via upnp then transfer movies on demand to it.
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Re: home media server
« Reply #31 on: Aug 17, 2013 at 09:29 PM »
kaya ba ng pogoplug share ng videos sa house? alam ko designed siya pang... internet.. pero pag within the network... kakayanin kaya mag stream?

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Re: home media server
« Reply #32 on: Aug 17, 2013 at 09:58 PM »
 
kaya ba ng pogoplug share ng videos sa house? alam ko designed siya pang... internet.. pero pag within the network... kakayanin kaya mag stream?

I am certain it can , its been clocked at 23 to 28 Mbps on a gigabit network. Functioning as a  nas  .With optimizations ..

Early marketing  ;)

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Re: home media server
« Reply #33 on: Aug 20, 2013 at 06:28 PM »
thanks sir jambam for info:D hehehe
pati sa marketing.. hehe

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Re: home media server
« Reply #34 on: Aug 21, 2013 at 12:08 AM »

I am certain it can , its been clocked at 23 to 28 Mbps on a gigabit network. Functioning as a  nas  .With optimizations ..

Early marketing  ;)

kaya pati 30gb in full resolution? hehe

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Re: home media server
« Reply #35 on: Aug 21, 2013 at 10:36 AM »
kaya pati 30gb in full resolution? hehe

30Gb would be a Blu-ray remux , if my memory serves me right is about 40Mbps (mega bits) peak maybe more . As the Pogo can do 20 MBps ( Mega Bytes) , it should be well within .
 
How many streams ,  i don't know , but you should scale your expectations with the price you pay for ...

If this what you plan to stream . you better ensure you're wireless system is also up to that task ;)
or scale you files to what the system is capable of


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Re: home media server
« Reply #37 on: Aug 22, 2013 at 10:31 AM »
Second option for both router and nas, imo.


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Re: home media server
« Reply #39 on: Aug 23, 2013 at 02:38 AM »
anybody tried making their own network attached server? if yes, will it be cheaper? :)

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« Reply #40 on: Aug 23, 2013 at 11:24 AM »
anybody tried making their own network attached server? if yes, will it be cheaper? :)

You can build a basic PC that can serve as a file server.

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Re: home media server
« Reply #41 on: Aug 23, 2013 at 04:22 PM »
anybody tried making their own network attached server? if yes, will it be cheaper? :)

I built mine around 4 years ago , if only 2 drive capacity you may not save a lot . But maybe for 8 to 10 drives then youll save , its also worth it to buy used or recycle old pcs as you dont need the latest processors.

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Re: home media server
« Reply #42 on: Sep 16, 2013 at 01:29 AM »
anyone have an AC router or using gigabit ethernet at home? any feedbacks?

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Re: home media server
« Reply #43 on: Sep 16, 2013 at 06:10 PM »
Main disadvantage of server based NASes (e.g. freenas / Windows Server) is electricity consumption (150-200 watts) + large foot print (maybe not a deal breaker for some).  However, it is much more powerfull and I would say 'full-proof'.  It can be easily modified / upgraded by just adding memory modules or PCI cards.

Main advantage naman for Synology NASes are MUCH lower power consumption (~20 watts) + lesser foot print.  However for Home based Synology products like DS213, you cannot upgrade its hardware.  For business / enterprise grade Synology NASes, however, you're limited to a few upgrades (e.g. memory) but they cost $$$$$.

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Re: home media server
« Reply #44 on: Sep 16, 2013 at 06:11 PM »
Not sure if DS213 is capable of streaming 2 or 3 (~20-30gb) BD movies over the network via uPnP.  Has anyone tried it?

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Re: home media server
« Reply #45 on: Oct 16, 2013 at 04:48 PM »
I have a Window Home Server which consumes for about 40-60watts

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Re: home media server
« Reply #46 on: Jul 12, 2014 at 05:40 PM »
I have a Window Home Server which consumes for about 40-60watts

Sandy Bridge: G620
Mobo: z68 Pro3 m
HDD: 4x 2tb Green
PSU: Seasonic 520w (SII) 80+ Silver

mga how much nagastos mo sir? thanks

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Re: home media server
« Reply #47 on: Nov 09, 2014 at 10:33 AM »
Hi Bros.  After trying for quite a while, I've settled on a mixed wired/wireless network that is served by a hefty custom built Windows desktop/server.  I was especially pleased last month when I could access our home media library from the airports and my hotel rooms in  South Korea and Singapore, and continue watching the TV series I'd been watching, and a few movies as well.  Sure, those countries have great Internet infra but my watching would not have been possible if our media server were not up to playing its critical role. 

Our media server is built around an Asus Z87I-PRO MOBO in a Bitfenix Phenom Mini-ITX case.  I opted for a Intel i7-4770K CPU and 16GB of 2133MHz OC'd memory because it would have to transcode possibly several streams at the same time.  It does also have a AMD R7 200 card that is used somewhat (the CPU is shows heavy loading) when transcoding.

Transcoding is very CPU intensive which translates to heat generated.  Getting rid of that heat is very important if you want your electronics to have a long and productive life.  So the CPU, which is setup to dynamically overclock depending on the workload, has a gaming rig water cooling system.  The GPU card as can be expected has its own built-in fan.  And there are another 3 high grade fans installed on the front, back and top sides of the chassis.  Actually, there would have been 4 chassis fans but the CPU cooling system tubes got in the way. 

For storage, the server has an SSD for boot and 4 HDDs with a total label capacity of 14T over which our media files are spread.  The Bitfenix case is nice because it can hold up to 6 HDD in its cages which is important to me to avoid external drive cages connected via USB and the heartache we experienced involving about 9TB of storage. 

With so many HDDs and near gaming rig hardware, I was actually worried about the power consumption.  Surprisingly, according to the APC Backup-UPS 1100, supplying the server, only about 2.74 kWH (114 watts) are consumed on a daily basis and that even includes the 25" LCD screen, a network switch and access point.  When transcoding the consumption does go up to 190 watts.  Really not that bad IMHO.

The server connects to the network through a gigabit Ethernet port on the Z87I-PRO, which also includes an 802.11 a/b/g/n NIC but we only use the Ethernet.

Our wireless network is pretty hefty and I'll get to that shortly, but IMHO there is nothing like a wired network by far.  So as a rule, if the end device is not going to move then it will be wired.  Anyway, nowadays, ready to use CAT6 cables are easy enough to find, and gigabit switches are affordable enough.  The slightly higher unsightliness or hassle of installing the cables is IMHO well worth it. 

Right now, we are still using the built-in gigabit switches on the old SOHO wireless routers we still have around.  I don't really recommend this path for the non-technically inclined because it requires fiddling with the router's settings, and gigabit switches are relatively cheap.  I'm just being patient enough to save up so we can replace these with managed switches.

Wireless access in our network is provided through three Ubiquity UniFi AP-PRO access points.  A bit of an overkill as these high-end access points with both 2.4GHz and 5GHz radios, a gigabit Ethernet port, mesh capability, and other you-don't-need-them features.  From experience however, you can't be skimpy when it comes to wireless because links speeds degrade very quickly from the label speeds, as do other label "promises" wireless routers manufacturers make.  In fairness, the Asus RT-N65U and Buffalo G450 and G300 wireless SOHO routers did do fairly well.  They could even do wireless streaming to some degree but they cannot of course compare to the Ubiquity APs that with just one streamed to 2 laptops, 2 tablets and 3 android phones all at the same time.

This is I guess already off-topic but another key to being able to access our home media server from South Korea and Singapore, is the pfSense 2.1 gateway that is running on a PC Engines APU-04 box.  The server was running Serviio and I had my laptop set to "medium" resolution on the browser UI.  Our library material is all ripped at 1080p with lossless audio so it safe to say the server was transcoding everything. 

The above was not a "straight shot" with he setup went through several iterations.  I thought to share this so that other might take a straighter path.

Cheers
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