Author Topic: JRiver MC18 - MC19 Tips, Tweaks and Setup (Read 16440 times)

jh@meeh · « **Reply #30 on:** Sep 06, 2013 at 04:53 PM »

Hindi ko pa nga na try ang DSP Audio bukod sa PCM to DSD. Pag lalaruan ko this week yan..Lagi kasing naka off, parang "Pure Mode" ba...

timber715 · « **Reply #31 on:** Sep 06, 2013 at 04:59 PM »

Quote from: jh@meeh on Sep 06, 2013 at 04:53 PM

Hindi ko pa nga na try ang DSP Audio bukod sa PCM to DSD. Pag lalaruan ko this week yan..Lagi kasing naka off, parang "Pure Mode" ba...

The nice thing about it is if you don't like the changes you can adjust it or just turn it off.... When you know your system enough is the right time to play with the settings. Give it at least two hours of listening before deciding. Most often, the initial change isn't what we are used to and would regard it as not good. Give it a while, some changes actually are beneficial...

rotciv64 · « **Reply #32 on:** Sep 07, 2013 at 09:30 PM »

Nice, this thread is getting more and more interesting

jh@meeh · « **Reply #33 on:** Sep 07, 2013 at 09:59 PM »

This is the latest version of MC19.

Download: http://files.jriver.com/mediacenter/channels/v19/latest/MediaCenter190037.exe

This is an early build of MC19. Please read what others say before downloading. It may be less trouble free than MC18 for some. Back up your current MC library before installing. Please use the Problems and Questions thread if you need help.

19.0.37 (9/5/2013)

1. Fixed: Playback of some YouTube music videos was failing.
2. Changed: The CSV text copied to the clipboard when copying from a list uses tab instead of comma as the delimiter.
3. Fixed: Playing YouTube videos, MC would not resume playback after entering buffering state.
4. Changed: Switched convolution based image effects (sharpen, emboss, etc.) to use SSE instead of MMX (should be internal change, but please report any issues).
5. Changed: MC will now read and write replay gain (Volume Level) tags in Windows Media files.
6. Fixed: Loopback was not working in the last couple builds due to internal COM changes.

timber715 · « **Reply #34 on:** Sep 07, 2013 at 11:31 PM »

Quote from: jh@meeh on Sep 07, 2013 at 09:59 PM

This is the latest version of MC19.

Download: http://files.jriver.com/mediacenter/channels/v19/latest/MediaCenter190037.exe

This is an early build of MC19. Please read what others say before downloading. It may be less trouble free than MC18 for some. Back up your current MC library before installing. Please use the Problems and Questions thread if you need help.

19.0.37 (9/5/2013)

1. Fixed: Playback of some YouTube music videos was failing.
2. Changed: The CSV text copied to the clipboard when copying from a list uses tab instead of comma as the delimiter.
3. Fixed: Playing YouTube videos, MC would not resume playback after entering buffering state.
4. Changed: Switched convolution based image effects (sharpen, emboss, etc.) to use SSE instead of MMX (should be internal change, but please report any issues).
5. Changed: MC will now read and write replay gain (Volume Level) tags in Windows Media files.
6. Fixed: Loopback was not working in the last couple builds due to internal COM changes.

People seem to find the update much better and stutter free. Must have freed some resources to do so. Must try later

jh@meeh · « **Reply #35 on:** Sep 08, 2013 at 12:16 AM »

You are right, its getting better. I am using this latest version since afternoon. No problem with Fidelizer 3.0. Maybe the "little harsh" is just me, not for all recordings...

...ymmv...I really like the real time pcm to dsd feature and zoning.

timber715 · « **Reply #36 on:** Sep 08, 2013 at 01:08 AM »

Well I just updated to 19.0.37. And so far mas magaan nga ng konti ito than the previous. And with a 1400 benchmark, I would know this is certainly an improvement. I use to get stutter when I am using the onboard wifi for Jremote. So far, wala pa....

jh@meeh · « **Reply #37 on:** Sep 08, 2013 at 01:36 PM »

Quote from: rotciv64 on Sep 07, 2013 at 09:30 PM

Nice, this thread is getting more and more interesting

Brader baka may settings/tweaks ka na pwedeng i share...thanks!

timber715 · « **Reply #38 on:** Sep 08, 2013 at 05:25 PM »

Been playing with the room correction on with only the listening distance correction for about 3 days. Now, I turned it off... I like it turned off.

rotciv64 · « **Reply #39 on:** Sep 08, 2013 at 08:09 PM »

What USB cable are you using now?

timber715 · « **Reply #40 on:** Sep 08, 2013 at 09:10 PM »

Quote from: rotciv64 on Sep 08, 2013 at 08:09 PM

What USB cable are you using now?

Still on my wireworld starlight. Would probably be interested to try the Kingrex....

jh@meeh · « **Reply #41 on:** Sep 08, 2013 at 11:16 PM »

For exa, the stock usb cable are fine. Lots of exa users are reporting that exotic usb cables does not adding any SQ upgrade..

rotciv64 · « **Reply #42 on:** Sep 09, 2013 at 10:35 PM »

I have the KingRex uART(Y) cable together with uPower, hooked up to the SOtM tx-USBexp and so far it has the best SQ I can wring out compared to all the other USB cables I've tested (none to say that it's not that many, hehe)

Though it's out of luck if paired to the DAC2 DSDse.

timber715 · « **Reply #43 on:** Sep 09, 2013 at 10:36 PM »

What you mean out of luck? Di tatakbo dahil sa compatibility issues?

rotciv64 · « **Reply #44 on:** Sep 09, 2013 at 10:47 PM »

I recall you did mention that Y usb cables have compatibility issues with the DSDse, only the the Y models I think. Best we try the Y cable on your system just to be sure

timber715 · « **Reply #45 on:** Sep 09, 2013 at 10:55 PM »

Quote from: rotciv64 on Sep 09, 2013 at 10:47 PM

I recall you did mention that Y usb cables have compatibility issues with the DSDse, only the the Y models I think. Best we try the Y cable on your system just to be sure

Kelan ba balik mo?

jh@meeh · « **Reply #46 on:** Sep 09, 2013 at 11:04 PM »

IMPROVED MEMORY PLAYBACK

Overview
Memory playback now holds decoded data in memory instead of encoded data.

This means playing any form of lossless (WAV, FLAC, APE, ALAC, etc.) will have identical data in memory and identical resource usage.

Benefits
The theoretical benefits of memory playback are that no disk or network I/O occurs while playing and that CPU load during playback could be reduced.

Technical Considerations
With a modern computer, playback of a standard CD-quality file will have the fully decoded file in memory in around one second.

Memory playback will use up to 1GB of memory for cache (capped at 80% of available system memory to avoid swap usage).

In some cases, the work of decoding and caching a file quickly as a track starts could lead to other problems. For example, when playing over Wi-Fi some machines exhibit high resource usage when reading a file quickly. This resource usage as a track starts could lead to audio playback glitches.

Some files like DSD played as PCM have very large decoded data so that they might require more memory to cache than (most) any system has. In these cases, the program will cache 1GB, play it mostly out, then cache another 1GB, etc.

With memory playback enabled, the player will no longer report a real-time bitrate (ie. 872 kbps) during playback. This is because asking the decoder its current bitrate is not possible when the decoder has finished with the current track completely in the first couple seconds of playback.

Sound Quality
JRiver is unaware of any test that shows a sound quality advantage to memory playback.

The option was added due to popular demand.

How to Use
You enable or disable memory playback in Options > Audio > Play files from memory instead of disk.

It is off by default.

timber715 · « **Reply #47 on:** Sep 09, 2013 at 11:37 PM »

Napa check tuloy ako kung naka on yung settings ko for that.... Heheheh. It has alway been on sa settings ko.

jh@meeh · « **Reply #48 on:** Sep 12, 2013 at 11:17 AM »

This is the latest version of MC19.

Download: http://files.jriver.com/mediacenter/channels/v19/latest/MediaCenter190038.exe

This is an early build of MC19. Please read what others say before downloading. It may be less trouble free than MC18 for some. Back up your current MC library before installing. Please use the Problems and Questions thread if you need help.

19.0.38 (9/10/2013)

1. Fixed: The installer would always register the 64-bit shell extensions, leading to cases where shell extensions could show in Explorer when the option was off in MC (manually turn on, OK out of options, then turn off, and OK out of options to fix).
2. Fixed: The custom library backup path validation could unnecessarily create the default folder.
3. Changed: Rewrote several core MMX image manipulation routines in SSE (most around 2x faster and now work cross platform).
4. Fixed: The visual mouse over state for an edit control would not always be honored properly.
5. Changed: Adaptive Volume in 'Peak Level Normalize' mode normalizes on a per-track basis when Volume Leveling is off and on a per-playlist basis when Volume Leveling is on.
6. Fixed: WPD camera acquisition could fail in the last few builds due to the internal COM changes.
7. Changed: MC has a white list of device names that support system volume while bitstreaming, and no longer disables the system volume slider when playing to these devices (if you have a device like this, please provide details).
8. Fixed: Audio device names with pipes or backslashes in them could cause problems in Options > Audio.
9. Changed: Added experimental support for ASIO DSD output to devices that do not specify a DSD buffer format like Teac, maybe others (feedback appreciated).
10. Fixed: If auto-import got canceled while analyzing audio, it would record it as an error and not try again for a year.
11. Fixed: Column auto-sizing was not working in some areas.
12. Fixed: The projection aspect ratio was inconsistent when switching between some 3d visualizations.

timber715 · « **Reply #49 on:** Sep 12, 2013 at 12:51 PM »

Maganda talaga support ng jriver, constantly fixing and upgrading their player.

timber715 · « **Reply #50 on:** Sep 20, 2013 at 01:31 AM »

JRiver Media Center 19.0.41 - update
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=83700.0

jh@meeh · « **Reply #51 on:** Sep 20, 2013 at 08:14 AM »

This is the latest version of MC19.

Download: http://files.jriver.com/mediacenter/channels/v19/latest/MediaCenter190041.exe

19.0.41 (9/18/2013)

1. Changed: Added support for SSA/ASS subtitle custom margins in the styles block.
2. NEW: Convert Format allows optionally specifying an audio output bitdepth.
3. Fixed: A corrupted APE file could cause decoding to stall in rare cases.
4. Fixed: Television tuner specific configuration dialog was not displayed.
5. Fixed: MadVR fell out of exclusive mode on OSD with TV playback.

19.0.40 (9/17/2013)

1. Changed: A processor that supports SSE2 is now required (added in 2001 to Intel, 2003 to AMD).
2. NEW: Added a 6 dB/octave mode for high and low pass filters in Parametric Equalizer.
3. Changed: The import summary is presented as an Action Window and only shows a popup and switches to 'Recently Imported' if a user clicks 'Details' on the summary.
4. Fixed: The new JRTelevision Dll did not work.
5. Internal: Revised left mouse click handling so that single, double, and triple clicks are generated by JRiver's framework instead of the operating system (should be internal change, but please report any mouse related issues).
6. Fixed: The installer could incorrectly want to reboot when it couldn't install the shell extensions.

19.0.39 (9/16/2013)

1. Fixed: Some handheld devices would not appear in the last few builds (due to the internal COM changes).
2. Faster: When loading Theater View backdrops from multiple sources, all sources are loaded at once instead of loading one at a time.
3. SDK: MCWS/v1/File/GetFile allows specifying a custom mime type for the response (to deal with carriers or ISPs that may block or throttle MP3 data).
4. Faster: Netflix queue is downloaded 2 to 3 times faster due to using parallel threading. Cancel works better.
5. Fixed: A few rare MP3 files could get slow to play or analyze.
6. Fixed: The brightness / contrast skin effect could overflow and look bad when using SSE acceleration.
7. Fixed: The removed FTP upload tool could incorrectly appear in the send to menu ( removed when MFC was removed: http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=75971.0 ).
8. Changed: The JRiver ASIO driver allows the host to configure the driver buffer size instead of keying off Options > Audio > Live playback latency (this way programs that query for the buffer size of all ASIO drivers on startup won't cause MC to start).
9. Changed: Socket buffer size to 32k.
10. Changed: Allow re-use of the base socket listener for library server (non-windows versions).
11. Changed: Adaptive Volume in 'Peak Level Normalize' mode would not use a fixed gain in some cases where it should have.
12. Internal: Switched television engine from an MFC COM control (MJTVControl.dll) to a regular DLL (JRTelevision.dll).

jh@meeh · « **Reply #52 on:** Sep 27, 2013 at 10:18 AM »

This is the latest version of MC19.

Download: http://files.jriver.com/mediacenter/channels/v19/latest/MediaCenter190045.exe

19.0.45 (9/24/2013)

1. Fixed: mp4/m4a files would not play on LS clients if user chooses "Automatic" or "JRiver audio engine (using input plug-in)" for Playback Type.
2. Changed: Video playback no longer forces the 'Clip protection' overflow handling mode but instead allows flat-lining overflows if so desired.
3. Fixed: Some click handling problems from build 44.
4. Fixed: When MP3 decoding encountered bad frames, audio analysis could slow way down instead of quickly working through the errors.

19.0.44 (9/24/2013)

1. Fixed: Shell extensions were causing problems in build 43.
2. Internal: More work on mouse click and double-click handling to fix some issues with trackpads (please report any issues).

19.0.43 (9/23/2013)

1. Fixed: A couple click / mouse issues due to the internal click handling changes.
2. Changed: Analyze Audio allows analyzing up to 8 files at a time instead of 4.
3. Fixed: Memory playback could engage when analyzing audio or converting and impact the memory usage and performance of the operation.
4. Faster: Improved thread parallelism when analyzing audio (and to a lesser extent regular playback).
5. SDK: The HTML engine supports .Rating and .RatingStars variables on any file object (can be used by WebGizmo, etc.).
6. Fixed: If a video file issued a finished event before ever starting, it could cause the audio analyzer to hang on the file.
7. Fixed: Thai text (and possibly others) could draw with incorrect character spacing.
8. Fixed: ASIO Line-in playback was not working properly.
9. Fixed: A corrupt MP3 file could cause a crash when decoding in rare cases.
10. Changed: Edit control scrollbars are indented one pixel so that they're inside the edit border with most skins.
11. Fixed: The Trunc(...) math expression function could show incorrect results in some cases.

19.0.42 (9/19/2013)

1. Fixed: Theater View could crash in rare cases.
2. Changed: The installer checks for SSE2 and shows an error if it's not found instead of refusing to run (we have no way to test this, so confirmation would be appreciated).
3. Changed: Revised the check for operating system support for AVX CPU instructions to hopefully fix an issue on XP running in Parallels (testing appreciated).
4. Fixed: When a client request a television channel that the server is already running (either recording or serving other clients), a black rectangle is drawn on the upper lefter corner of the server.

timber715 · « **Reply #53 on:** Oct 14, 2013 at 02:38 AM »

19.0.56 update....
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=84353.0

Bogsle · « **Reply #54 on:** Oct 14, 2013 at 06:11 PM »

This JRiver MC19 definitely sounds much, much better than the previous version.

I liked it so much I stopped using the trial version and bought the licensed one instead.

The US$ 50.00 is worth the investment.

jh@meeh · « **Reply #55 on:** Oct 14, 2013 at 09:14 PM »

Quote from: Bogsle on Oct 14, 2013 at 06:11 PM

This JRiver MC19 definitely sounds much, much better than the previous version.
I liked it so much I stopped using the trial version and bought the licensed one instead.
The US$ 50.00 is worth the investment.

+1

timber715 · « **Reply #56 on:** Oct 14, 2013 at 10:23 PM »

The 19.0.56 seem to messed playback for dsd formats, while upsampling from pcm2dsd works fine... Back to 19.0.45 for me

jh@meeh · « **Reply #57 on:** Oct 14, 2013 at 10:27 PM »

di ko pa natesting....dami pang bugs ng mc19..

timber715 · « **Reply #58 on:** Oct 14, 2013 at 10:43 PM »

Ang ganda lang sa jriver, constantly upgrading sila often for the better without going overboard.

jh@meeh · « **Reply #59 on:** Oct 14, 2013 at 11:00 PM »

Oo nga, tsaka sinabi naman nila sa website na ganyan talaga pag new builds..they really support the product..syempre may bayad kasi..hehehe