Author Topic: USB cables... (Read 8830 times)

dodie · « **Reply #30 on:** Sep 16, 2013 at 07:20 PM »

Quote from: mykel18 on Sep 16, 2013 at 06:23 PM

Tonearm cable lang

Pakingan mo muna bgo ka magupgrade:) bka mas maganda TT na mismo o kaya cart. Dont be in haste bro. Sooner youll find out it is more than the phono cable na magpapaganda sa tunog ng tt mo

timber715 · « **Reply #31 on:** Sep 16, 2013 at 11:08 PM »

Its time to play... Woohoooo.

I think it would be easier if there would be a format that we can follow....
1. Sound quality
A. Lows
B. Mids and highs
2. Sound Stage
3. Imaging

Test materials:
Jenni Muldaur - there another place where I can't go
Noel Cabangon - tuwing umuulan
Diana Krall - frim fram sauce
Ray Charles - makin whoopee
Elmer Bernstein - the magnificent seven

I am open to other test tracks if I have them.... Sana they are something I am familiar din.
Baka meron din kayong ma suggest, do let me know.

jh@meeh · « **Reply #32 on:** Sep 16, 2013 at 11:36 PM »

yung kay allan taylor colur to the moon brader..maganda pang testing....Si Reshaman ang dami na yatang na testing na usb cables para sa wyred...high end din..

timber715 · « **Reply #33 on:** Sep 16, 2013 at 11:44 PM »

Quote from: jh@meeh on Sep 16, 2013 at 11:36 PM

yung kay allan taylor colur to the moon brader..maganda pang testing....Si Reshaman ang dami na yatang na testing na usb cables para sa wyred...high end din..

Mabigat ang budget ni Richard. Di natin kaya yan....
Yung kay allan taylor pwede, medyo familiar ako, palitan natin yung diana krall tapos dagdag si halie loren.... Thanks

Test materials:
Jenni Muldaur - there another place where I can't go
Noel Cabangon - tuwing umuulan
Allan Taylor - color to the moon
Ray Charles - makin whoopee
Elmer Bernstein - the magnificent seven
Halie Loren - gray to grand

jh@meeh · « **Reply #34 on:** Sep 16, 2013 at 11:49 PM »

imaging at sound stage testing, yung Spanish harlem ni Rebbeca Pidgeon...

timber715 · « **Reply #35 on:** Sep 16, 2013 at 11:52 PM »

Quote from: jh@meeh on Sep 16, 2013 at 11:49 PM

imaging at sound stage testing, yung Spanish harlem ni Rebbeca Pidgeon...

Familiar ako dun pero mas gusto ko si jenni at si halie brader...

jh@meeh · « **Reply #36 on:** Sep 17, 2013 at 12:05 AM »

This is an extract from computeraudiophile...

There is much animated discussion on USB cables, and cables in general of course.

Opinions range from:

1. Any USB cable to a DAC sounds the same, even $2 EUR 1.5 ones, so why bother spending more
2. There is no valid technical reason why USB cables sound different, double blind tests confirm that
3. Printer USB cables won't be the same as audio grade USB Cables, so don't use them
4. Different branded USB cables do make a difference
5. I use Brand X USB Cable cause it gives me soundstage/resolution/no smear/great timing/less jitter (select which applies)
6. I can hear the difference between USB Cables
7. USB cables perform better with matched DACS of proportional cost
8. I like Brand X because I like the manufacturer's system sound
9. Brand X cables doesn't produce jitter as much as Brand Y
10. Crosstalk on Brand X cable is minimised between D+ and D- lines, especially the Y type cable

Now all these are opinions, there are (small to large) facts and myths buried in all of them, each one can be analysed until the end of time with really no clear winner or result. In the end, have a read of all the posts, and eventually you will say, heck, I'll just buy Brand X cause it will look good in my system and the price is right.

timber715 · « **Reply #37 on:** Sep 17, 2013 at 12:27 AM »

Always a discussion, debate and often ends to quarrels. Kaya nga naglagay na ako ng disclaimer eh

Parang speaker wires, interconnects at power cable lang din etong topic na to... Merong believer, merong hindi at meron ayaw... Basta ayaw!

hehehe

timber715 · « **Reply #38 on:** Sep 17, 2013 at 12:35 AM »

Another addition to the test would be to make sure all sound would be at the same volume level.
I would be using an app on my ipad to make sure a certain part of a certain song will register the same level. In my case, the first 30 second of jenni muldaur's song and at a maximum of 80db... (Nasa condo kasi ako eh).

jh@meeh · « **Reply #39 on:** Sep 17, 2013 at 12:36 AM »

brader yung kay Boz scaggs Thanks to you maganda sa low/bass..

or bob marley buffalo soldier for tight bass testing..

timber715 · « **Reply #40 on:** Sep 17, 2013 at 12:38 AM »

Quote from: jh@meeh on Sep 17, 2013 at 12:36 AM

brader yung kay Boz scaggs Thanks to you maganda sa low/bass..

Anong song, familiar lang ako sa sound track ng urban cowboy. Di ko nga maalala yung title eh...
Meron akong idadagdag para dyan...
No scrubs ng tlc...

Nelson de Leon · « **Reply #41 on:** Sep 17, 2013 at 12:39 AM »

Quote from: timber715 on Sep 17, 2013 at 12:35 AM

Another addition to the test would be to make sure all sound would be at the same volume level.
I would be using an app on my ipad to make sure a certain part of a certain song will register the same level. In my case, the first 30 second of jenni muldaur's song and at a maximum of 80db... (Nasa condo kasi ako eh).

Kung isang amp lang naman ang gagamitin nyo, wag nyo na lang galawin ang volume. Kasama din kc yun difference sa volume yun difference.

jh@meeh · « **Reply #42 on:** Sep 17, 2013 at 12:40 AM »

Thanks to you by Boz Scaggs from album Marantz Hi-End Audiophile Test Demo CD 2011..

jh@meeh · « **Reply #43 on:** Sep 17, 2013 at 12:43 AM »

Quote from: Nelson de Leon on Sep 17, 2013 at 12:39 AM

Kung isang amp lang naman ang gagamitin nyo, wag nyo na lang galawin ang volume. Kasama din kc yun difference sa volume yun difference.

Brader may mga music kasi na mababa ang volume ng sounds...kung Jriver MC19 ang gagamitin, pwedeng gamitin ang volume leveling...

timber715 · « **Reply #44 on:** Sep 17, 2013 at 12:48 AM »

Quote from: Nelson de Leon on Sep 17, 2013 at 12:39 AM

Kung isang amp lang naman ang gagamitin nyo, wag nyo na lang galawin ang volume. Kasama din kc yun difference sa volume yun difference.

Ang problem dyan na nakikita ko brader is pag masmalakas ang isa over the other nagiging iba perspective. Mas tama imo ang parehong volume ang dating sa listener para mas madistinguish ang sonic difference better.

timber715 · « **Reply #45 on:** Sep 17, 2013 at 12:49 AM »

Quote from: jh@meeh on Sep 17, 2013 at 12:43 AM

Brader may mga music kasi na mababa ang volume ng sounds...kung Jriver MC19 ang gagamitin, pwedeng gamitin ang volume leveling...

Di pwede brader, di maglelevel pag nagpalit ng cable eh.... External source heheheh

jh@meeh · « **Reply #46 on:** Sep 17, 2013 at 01:02 AM »

Kung meron kang SPL mas maganda, pero kung SPL sa IPAD, hindi reliable yun..ang laki ng error..

timber715 · « **Reply #47 on:** Sep 17, 2013 at 01:12 AM »

Quote from: jh@meeh on Sep 17, 2013 at 01:02 AM

Kung meron kang SPL mas maganda, pero kung SPL sa IPAD, hindi reliable yun..ang laki ng error..

It will work for now, medyo close na rin. Don't want to spend muna. Mahal ang cables eh.... Hehehe

Just to add, I am running Jriver mc19 with pcm2dsd set ON 2xdsd...

Dami ko nang nakikita na iba......

timber715 · « **Reply #48 on:** Sep 17, 2013 at 01:14 AM »

Will invite others before I release my findings para may second opinion.... Pero so far I am very very happy....

timber715 · « **Reply #49 on:** Sep 17, 2013 at 01:34 AM »

Jhameeh, tara...ikaw second opinion ko....

jh@meeh · « **Reply #50 on:** Sep 17, 2013 at 01:38 PM »

Brader pasensya ba po, wala akong pang testing....hehehe...cant wait to read your findings...

timber715 · « **Reply #51 on:** Sep 17, 2013 at 01:39 PM »

So far most of the usb cables gave my system a warm taste....

Nelson de Leon · « **Reply #52 on:** Sep 17, 2013 at 01:49 PM »

Sa experience ko, minsan what may be maganda sa system ko may not be good sa ibang system. "Synergy".

mykel18 · « **Reply #53 on:** Sep 17, 2013 at 01:59 PM »

Quote from: timber715 on Sep 17, 2013 at 01:39 PM

So far most of the usb cables gave my system a warm taste....

May napili ka na?

jh@meeh · « **Reply #54 on:** Sep 17, 2013 at 02:01 PM »

Yung cables ba home audition lang or buy mo na?

mykel18 · « **Reply #55 on:** Sep 17, 2013 at 02:05 PM »

Quote from: jh@meeh on Sep 17, 2013 at 02:01 PM

Yung cables ba home audition lang or buy mo na?

Bilin na lahat para iba-iba timpla.

jh@meeh · « **Reply #56 on:** Sep 17, 2013 at 02:07 PM »

Approved without thinking...hahaha

timber715 · « **Reply #57 on:** Sep 17, 2013 at 02:11 PM »

Quote from: Nelson de Leon on Sep 17, 2013 at 01:49 PM

Sa experience ko, minsan what may be maganda sa system ko may not be good sa ibang system. "Synergy".

Konsi, I very much agree. Matching to achieve synergy truly is very important.

Quote from: jh@meeh on Sep 17, 2013 at 02:01 PM

Yung cables ba home audition lang or buy mo na?

Audition lang without commitment. Familiar si Mykel dyan, its good to have friends in the industry....
Pero sometimes hindi rin, lalo kasing lumalaki gastos eh.....

lithium_deuteride · « **Reply #58 on:** Sep 17, 2013 at 04:05 PM »

Ferdie Ludo once brought a USB cable for me to test and the A-B comparison versus my generic USB cable from Mac to DAC resulted in such an obvious improvement in SQ I bought the cable on the spot - never mind that just a few moments earlier, the thought of buying a $300 USB cable seemed so preposterous.

Not all audio tweaks resulted in improvements - I've had some expensive duds as well. But a premium USB cable is not one of them.

timber715 · « **Reply #59 on:** Sep 17, 2013 at 04:56 PM »

Quote from: lithium_deuteride on Sep 17, 2013 at 04:05 PM

Ferdie Ludo once brought a USB cable for me to test and the A-B comparison versus my generic USB cable from Mac to DAC resulted in such an obvious improvement in SQ I bought the cable on the spot - never mind that just a few moments earlier, the thought of buying a $300 USB cable seemed so preposterous.

Not all audio tweaks resulted in improvements - I've had some expensive duds as well. But a premium USB cable is not one of them.

I have to agree that the usb doesn't bring the most obvious tweaks. And that the smallest tweaks often cost much. I am happy to say I would not be needing a 300$ cable though I am willing only if the tweak is enough to substantiate the cost.
Saving on usb cable made my day or night

One thing I am pondering now is how it affects the system.
Earlier I noticed most cables were warn for my system, then I realized if I were using a different speaker wire, the usb cables would probably fit the bill... So in the quest for audio nirvana, matching plays a huge factor for every part of a system. From the power source to the speakers....
The nice part is, not all matches made in heaven need to be expensive.... Finding the combination is the difficult part....
Cheers