Author Topic: Oldboyracers HT build (Read 202943 times)

Oldboyracer · « **Reply #1020 on:** Jan 31, 2015 at 07:46 PM »

Quote from: RXV on Jan 31, 2015 at 02:33 PM

Haha funny!

I thought so too RXV

Oldboyracer · « **Reply #1021 on:** Jan 31, 2015 at 07:53 PM »

A little bit of good news, I've just heard from Panasonic & they're (Panasonic Japan) are going to send replacement boards so the repair can be verified before any payment is made. Unfortunate thing is 2 - 3 months delivery. At least it gives me a little time to make alternative plans.

DTNS · « **Reply #1022 on:** Jan 31, 2015 at 10:05 PM »

Quote from: Oldboyracer on Jan 31, 2015 at 07:53 PM

A little bit of good news, I've just heard from Panasonic & they're (Panasonic Japan) are going to send replacement boards so the repair can be verified before any payment is made. Unfortunate thing is 2 - 3 months delivery. At least it gives me a little time to make alternative plans.

that's good to hear, OBR.

dimfer · « **Reply #1023 on:** Feb 01, 2015 at 12:42 AM »

I feel your pain OBR, I hope you could enjoy your HT soon

Nelson de Leon · « **Reply #1024 on:** Feb 01, 2015 at 12:45 AM »

Quote from: dimfer on Feb 01, 2015 at 12:42 AM

I feel your pain OBR, I hope you could enjoy your HT soon

I can "atone" for his pain if given the chance.

Oldboyracer · « **Reply #1025 on:** Feb 01, 2015 at 06:36 PM »

Quote from: DTNS on Jan 31, 2015 at 10:05 PM

that's good to hear, OBR.

Thanx DTNS.

Oldboyracer · « **Reply #1026 on:** Feb 01, 2015 at 06:37 PM »

Quote from: dimfer on Feb 01, 2015 at 12:42 AM

I feel your pain OBR, I hope you could enjoy your HT soon

Thanx dimfer, I live in hope.

Oldboyracer · « **Reply #1027 on:** Feb 01, 2015 at 06:39 PM »

Quote from: Nelson de Leon on Feb 01, 2015 at 12:45 AM

I can "atone" for his pain if given the chance.

Nelson, I like your style, you've put a smile on my face

Oldboyracer · « **Reply #1028 on:** Feb 07, 2015 at 02:45 PM »

Update :- While waiting for the screen repair it's given me time to assess what I have done with the HT room. Due to the humidity problem I have decided to replace my acoustic panels. The filling is cellulose fiber, my mistake I did not research & presumed it to be synthetic. On finding some panels have formed a crust under the fabric I researched & found that cellulose fiber is 85% shredded paper & has a high moisture absorbancy. This would account for the panel filling starting to harden under the fabric so to prevent future problems I will redo the acoustics as soon as funds are available. I'm not all together happy with the sound on some BD's but don't know whether it's the acoustic nature of the panels changing due to he hardening of the fiber or I never got it right in the first place. Redoing the panels will kill 2 birds with 1 stone

Gino · « **Reply #1029 on:** Feb 07, 2015 at 03:15 PM »

You may want to look into the Rockwool. It should not be friendly to moisture and micro organisms. Less propensity to cultivate mold. Go with synthetic covering material too. Panels must be removable so you can air them out regularly.

Next step but expensive are quadratic diffusers made from wood. These things you can wipe down when needed. They do occupy a lot of space so it is not for everybody.

None of these of course fixes bass issues. There is simply not enough room there for meaningful bass treatment.

Oldboyracer · « **Reply #1030 on:** Feb 07, 2015 at 07:16 PM »

Quote from: Gino on Feb 07, 2015 at 03:15 PM

You may want to look into the Rockwool. It should not be friendly to moisture and micro organisms. Less propensity to cultivate mold. Go with synthetic covering material too. Panels must be removable so you can air them out regularly.

Next step but expensive are quadratic diffusers made from wood. These things you can wipe down when needed. They do occupy a lot of space so it is not for everybody.

None of these of course fixes bass issues. There is simply not enough room there for meaningful bass treatment.

Thanks for that Gino, existing panels are fixed with Velcro so will probably stick with that. It seems that Fiberglass is difficult to source here so Rockwool is favorite. I may stick with my current bass traps, I'm in the process of making removable covers for them. The unfortunate thing is it's going to be slow progress until I've got the house sorted = got to please the boss

Nelson de Leon · « **Reply #1031 on:** Feb 08, 2015 at 01:53 PM »

Quote from: Gino on Feb 07, 2015 at 03:15 PM

You may want to look into the Rockwool. It should not be friendly to moisture and micro organisms. Less propensity to cultivate mold. Go with synthetic covering material too. Panels must be removable so you can air them out regularly.

Next step but expensive are quadratic diffusers made from wood. These things you can wipe down when needed. They do occupy a lot of space so it is not for everybody.

None of these of course fixes bass issues. There is simply not enough room there for meaningful bass treatment.

Here is a diffractal diffuser/s that might fit the bill for OBR:

A little change in color theme would easily make this diffuser blend in OBR's room. Actually, the picture consists of 5 pieces.

Oldboyracer · « **Reply #1032 on:** Feb 08, 2015 at 02:00 PM »

Quote from: Nelson de Leon on Feb 08, 2015 at 01:53 PM

Here is a diffractal diffuser/s that might fit the bill for OBR:

A little change in color theme would easily make this diffuser blend in OBR's room. Actually, the picture consists of 5 pieces.

Thanx Nelson, I'll be looking at the acoustics a bit closer this time, having jumped a bit last time & things are not quite what I expected. I may remove the filling from some of the panels & experiment with placement but it won't be for a little while yet.

Oldboyracer · « **Reply #1033 on:** Feb 10, 2015 at 02:16 PM »

Heard from Panasonic this morning, the parts for the screen repair have arrived in Manila & should be here by the end of the week. Hopefully the repair can take place next week

mykel18 · « **Reply #1034 on:** Feb 10, 2015 at 02:45 PM »

Good luck! Hope it gets fixed

Oldboyracer · « **Reply #1035 on:** Feb 10, 2015 at 08:07 PM »

Quote from: mykel18 on Feb 10, 2015 at 02:45 PM

Good luck! Hope it gets fixed

Thanx mykel

Oldboyracer · « **Reply #1036 on:** Feb 16, 2015 at 11:07 AM »

Good news, the boards for my screen have arrived in Cebu & the repair will take place this week

Gino · « **Reply #1037 on:** Feb 16, 2015 at 11:32 AM »

The Sun shines on Cebu

Oldboyracer · « **Reply #1038 on:** Feb 16, 2015 at 03:13 PM »

Quote from: Gino on Feb 16, 2015 at 11:32 AM

The Sun shines on Cebu

Thanx Gino, it will shine even more if the repair does not cost me P66K

Oldboyracer · « **Reply #1039 on:** Feb 16, 2015 at 08:06 PM »

Quote from: DTNS on Oct 15, 2013 at 09:49 AM

just curious, how is your electricity bill? I checked the specs of the 85" Panasonic and noticed that its power consumption is high.

As promised DTNS, my 1st full months bill has come in at P4.33K. We've been using an induction hob for cooking but I will install the gas hob tomorrow so the consumption should go down but will increase with extra usage of the HT room when the screen is repaired

It will take a couple of months to to settle & give me an idea of exact usage. One thing is for sure it's not going to be anywhere near the P22K estimated by VECO.

DTNS · « **Reply #1040 on:** Feb 16, 2015 at 08:22 PM »

Quote from: Oldboyracer on Feb 16, 2015 at 08:06 PM

As promised DTNS, my 1st full months bill has come in at P4.33K. We've been using an induction hob for cooking but I will install the gas hob tomorrow so the consumption should go down but will increase with extra usage of the HT room when the screen is repaired It will take a couple of months to to settle & give me an idea of exact usage. One thing is for sure it's not going to be anywhere near the P22K estimated by VECO.

wow. that's not too bad... for now.

I hope your screen gets repaired soon so we all have a better idea of your bill with the plasma tv's usage.

Oldboyracer · « **Reply #1041 on:** Feb 17, 2015 at 09:12 AM »

Quote from: DTNS on Feb 16, 2015 at 08:22 PM

wow. that's not too bad... for now. I hope your screen gets repaired soon so we all have a better idea of your bill with the plasma tv's usage.

You said the right thing DTNS 'for now'

ricky · « **Reply #1042 on:** Feb 17, 2015 at 01:18 PM »

Quote from: Oldboyracer on Feb 07, 2015 at 02:45 PM

Update :- While waiting for the screen repair it's given me time to assess what I have done with the HT room. Due to the humidity problem I have decided to replace my acoustic panels. The filling is cellulose fiber, my mistake I did not research & presumed it to be synthetic. On finding some panels have formed a crust under the fabric I researched & found that cellulose fiber is 85% shredded paper & has a high moisture absorbancy. This would account for the panel filling starting to harden under the fabric so to prevent future problems I will redo the acoustics as soon as funds are available. I'm not all together happy with the sound on some BD's but don't know whether it's the acoustic nature of the panels changing due to he hardening of the fiber or I never got it right in the first place. Redoing the panels will kill 2 birds with 1 stone

Obd that cellulose fibers are for agri purposes rather than for acoustic detail. Sorry you had to find out the expensive way. Cant blame you since the article attached to that cellulose fiber is actually intended for another material. Kind of misleading, I just dont know if intentional or an honest mistake by the seller.

Pls dont use removeable covers for your panels with fg/rw inserts. It will just make your life more misearble esp after you removed the fabric.

Oldboyracer · « **Reply #1043 on:** Feb 17, 2015 at 05:23 PM »

Quote from: ricky on Feb 17, 2015 at 01:18 PM

Obd that cellulose fibers are for agri purposes rather than for acoustic detail. Sorry you had to find out the expensive way. Cant blame you since the article attached to that cellulose fiber is actually intended for another material. Kind of misleading, I just dont know if intentional or an honest mistake by the seller.

Pls dont use removeable covers for your panels with fg/rw inserts. It will just make your life more misearble esp after you removed the fabric.

Hi ricky, I will not be utilising any of the existing panels when I redo the acoustics, there are other reasons for that but not for discussing here. I think cellulose fiber could be used in non humid climates but would be more trial & error when calculating usage. There has been much installation done with FB & RW so starting points can more easily decided.
The only thoughts I had for panel alterations would be to remove the filling from the rear on a few & experiment with repositioning to assess the acoustic change. As the walls already have Velcro attached I could use it to fit non acoustic panels for aesthetic reasons.
Thanx for the advice

Nelson de Leon · « **Reply #1044 on:** Feb 17, 2015 at 09:42 PM »

What's FB & RW? I'm lost!

DTNS · « **Reply #1045 on:** Feb 17, 2015 at 10:28 PM »

Quote from: Nelson de Leon on Feb 17, 2015 at 09:42 PM

What's FB & RW? I'm lost!

I'm guessing they stand for fiberboard and rockwool?

ricky · « **Reply #1046 on:** Feb 17, 2015 at 11:13 PM »

Quote from: Nelson de Leon on Feb 17, 2015 at 09:42 PM

What's FB & RW? I'm lost!

My bad , its FG(fiberglass) and RW(rockwool). Dtns yes FB(fiberboard not facebook hehe)

DTNS · « **Reply #1047 on:** Feb 17, 2015 at 11:14 PM »

Quote from: ricky on Feb 17, 2015 at 11:13 PM

My bad , its FG(fiberglass) and RW(rockwool). Dtns yes FB(fiberboard not facebook hehe)

hahaha!

Oldboyracer · « **Reply #1048 on:** Feb 18, 2015 at 08:34 AM »

Quote from: ricky on Feb 17, 2015 at 11:13 PM

My bad , its FG(fiberglass) and RW(rockwool). Dtns yes FB(fiberboard not facebook hehe)

Hi Guys it's my mistake, ricky was correct in his post with fg. My finger lost it's way (the 'B' key is just below 'G'), I'll have to reread my posts in future

Maybe I should have written FiberGlass & RockWool

Oldboyracer · « **Reply #1049 on:** Feb 18, 2015 at 08:38 AM »

Panasonic service center tech. arriving this morning to repair the screen so hopefully movie night tonight