Author Topic: Samsung F8500 Plasma (2013 & 2014) (Read 58400 times)

barrister · « **Reply #30 on:** Jul 30, 2014 at 10:35 PM »

Quote from: skooter on Jul 30, 2014 at 10:22 PM

sa samsung concept store sa cebu sir, for 85k comes with a HTIB na sammy din but i sold it out. bought last year november.

Bakit yung free HTiB ko, walang pumapansin sa Marketplace thread?

3D Blu-ray din? Magkano benta mo sir?

Quote from: skooter on Jul 30, 2014 at 10:19 PM

atty. basta ang pinaka puti na liwanag yung ang the best to picked? kasi can't tell visually if its luminance or color temp. is near 6500k.

Hindi ko rin naman alam ang exact 6500K, I just have some idea about how it should look like.

No, 6500K is not pure white. Slightly yellowish pa nga (but very slight lang).

That's why the average user thinks the whites of a calibrated TV look too yellow. Ang hindi nila alam, yun na pala ang tamang white na 6500 Kelvin.

Nasanay lang sa mga TV sa appliance store showrooms. Ang vivid mode kasi, ang setting ng white ay bluish, in order to make the whites seem brighter. The TV shoppers are impressed with the searing bright whites on the showroom floor, that's why the marketing department of the different brands prefer to demo a cooler color temperature.

Pag halatang bluish na ang color, around 8000+ Kelvin na yon.

revskie · « **Reply #31 on:** Aug 02, 2014 at 03:22 PM »

Bro, how is the cable tv performance? OK ba?

barrister · « **Reply #32 on:** Aug 02, 2014 at 05:24 PM »

Yes, ayos yan sir.

revskie · « **Reply #33 on:** Aug 02, 2014 at 05:34 PM »

Tnanks! Binebenta ko na yung papalitan. Hehehe.

barrister · « **Reply #34 on:** Aug 02, 2014 at 06:03 PM »

Buy from Anson's Makati. Garantisadong brand new.

Mahirap nang humanap ng bago niyan. Sa SM Appliance, all branches in Metro Manila, garantisadong display unit...

Yung luma ko binenta ko agad. Natakot kasi ako, baka wala nang abutan na new stock.

revskie · « **Reply #35 on:** Aug 02, 2014 at 06:57 PM »

Thanks Chief!

zonks · « **Reply #36 on:** Aug 02, 2014 at 07:47 PM »

mga 2 weeks ago, may available sa ansons pasong tamo ext, selling at 70k cash brand new, may 2 units daw na available pa,

revskie · « **Reply #37 on:** Aug 02, 2014 at 09:32 PM »

Thanks for the advise brod!

zonks · « **Reply #38 on:** Aug 03, 2014 at 04:46 PM »

no problem bro, welcome

revskie · « **Reply #39 on:** Aug 11, 2014 at 10:07 PM »

Do you guys experience your units going on a screen saver when watching? Screen goes blank and a small samsung logo appears which goes around the screen. Happened to me alot of times while watching on zoom mode during break-in process.

barrister · « **Reply #40 on:** Aug 12, 2014 at 01:09 AM »

Uy, nakabili na! Congrats, sir!

No, hindi ko pa na-experience yan. Baka settings lang.

Hindi ko kaharap yung TV ngayon, kaya hindi ako sure, pero try mo na rin kung tama ba: System > Screen Burn Protection > Auto Protection Time.

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Mas mabagal pala nang konti ang video processing pag naka Cinema Smooth.

Magandang sync test yung home-made clip ni EditorSean: http://editorsean.com/blog/49-audiovideosynctest

I use his AV alignment test on portable USB hard disc and WDTV player.

Disadvantage ay 25fps frame rate only. Pero maganda ang alignment test niya, kasi mas madaling mag fine-tune, compared with a regular sync test na alanganin pa rin ako kung tama na ba ang delay adjustment ko, o mali pa rin.

revskie · « **Reply #41 on:** Aug 12, 2014 at 08:06 AM »

Thanks bro!

jjb · « **Reply #42 on:** Aug 12, 2014 at 10:54 PM »

Saan may available 64 inch units? and how much na ngayon?
Sana meron pa

revskie · « **Reply #43 on:** Aug 12, 2014 at 10:56 PM »

Ansons Makati and Cash and Carry, brod.

jjb · « **Reply #44 on:** Aug 12, 2014 at 11:18 PM »

Thanks revskie! deciding between this and LG's oled

barrister · « **Reply #45 on:** Aug 13, 2014 at 02:24 PM »

Please post to inform us in case you decide to buy the OLED.

I'm sure maraming interesado, kasi AFAIK, you will be the first here to have an OLED TV.

Thames · « **Reply #46 on:** Aug 13, 2014 at 09:15 PM »

Magkano ang 64" model? Nabasa ko lang yung price ng 51".

thanks!

jjb · « **Reply #47 on:** Aug 14, 2014 at 12:32 AM »

Quote from: barrister on Aug 13, 2014 at 02:24 PM

Please post to inform us in case you decide to buy the OLED.

I'm sure maraming interesado, kasi AFAIK, you will be the first here to have an OLED TV.

Sure! Big downside sa LG OLED is it's only 55inches. Di ko masyadong type the curved one while the flat one has good built-in HK speakers.
I'm more inclined to get the 64f8500 since it's bigger and will be putting it sa basement HT room that's dark most of the time. Price i saw sa cash and carry online seller is 155k

barrister · « **Reply #48 on:** Aug 14, 2014 at 10:33 AM »

Thanks!

The real downside of OLED is that it's prone to dead/stuck pixels.

Many OLED panels have dead/stuck pixels right out of the factory, which is why OLED panel yield is so low. This high production wastage contributes to the high price.

Even after a unit is completely assembled without dead/stuck pixels, the TV is still likely to have dead/stuck pixels by the time it reaches the end-user.

The problem with OLED is that it is still not a mature technology.

Aside form dead/stuck pixels, blue subpixel still has a short lifespan problem, which is why LG uses 4 white subpixels under a WRGB filter, claiming that this method solves the blue lifespan issue.

But still, their white subpixels are produced from compressed red, green and blue OLED layers, so the blue OLED problem is still there. How long will the blue layer last? We can't rely on LG to give an honest answer, that's for sure.

BTW, I've seen an LG on display, and it really has a stunning picture. However, I noticed that it has a slight color shift when viewed from an angle. View it from the side and you will notice the whites shift slightly yellowish.

revskie · « **Reply #49 on:** Aug 15, 2014 at 08:42 PM »

How many remotes did you guys get? I only got the smart remote.

jjb · « **Reply #50 on:** Aug 15, 2014 at 11:05 PM »

Quote from: barrister on Aug 14, 2014 at 10:33 AM

Thanks!

The real downside of OLED is that it's prone to dead/stuck pixels.

Many OLED panels have dead/stuck pixels right out of the factory, which is why OLED panel yield is so low. This high production wastage contributes to the high price.

Even after a unit is completely assembled without dead/stuck pixels, the TV is still likely to have dead/stuck pixels by the time it reaches the end-user.

The problem with OLED is that it is still not a mature technology.

Aside form dead/stuck pixels, blue subpixel still has a short lifespan problem, which is why LG uses 4 white subpixels under a WRGB filter, claiming that this method solves the blue lifespan issue.

But still, their white subpixels are produced from compressed red, green and blue OLED layers, so the blue OLED problem is still there. How long will the blue layer last? We can't rely on LG to give an honest answer, that's for sure.

BTW, I've seen an LG on display, and it really has a stunning picture. However, I noticed that it has a slight color shift when viewed from an angle. View it from the side and you will notice the whites shift slightly yellowish.

Thanks for the explanation.
There's slight color shift nga and the glass is really glossy & reflective! The long fluorescent light of Anson's ortigas that's reflected on the screen was irregularly shaped too, meaning the surface is not smoothly curved. Flat is still better for me

barrister · « **Reply #51 on:** Aug 16, 2014 at 11:21 AM »

At OLED's prices, you'd think an LG OLED would easily win any TV shootout.

But at the June 2014 TV shootout by Crampton & Moore, the best TV was Panny Plasma 60ZT65, beating the LG OLED, 10 votes to 7 (Sammy F8500 was not a participant).

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/result-201406013793.htm

Makes you think twice about spending that much on OLED, when it can't even beat a ZT65.

barrister · « **Reply #52 on:** Aug 16, 2014 at 11:36 AM »

Quote from: revskie on Aug 15, 2014 at 08:42 PM

How many remotes did you guys get? I only got the smart remote.

I got only 1 smart remote.

I checked the Samsung Philippines website --- it says only 1 smart remote is included. I asked the seller (Ansons) if they can get an IR remote for me, but they said I had to ask the service center.

The service center said no extra IR remote is included in the Philippines for the F8500. I asked if I could buy an original AA59-00637A remote from them. They said they can't order that model for me because it's not officially registered on the Samsung Phils. parts list.

But they offered an original AA59-00641A remote, which looks very similar to the one I want:

The buttons I need are: Smart Hub, 3D, and Camera. They're all there, so I ordered it. P1,200.00 lang.

I'll post about correct compatibility as soon as I receive it.

revskie · « **Reply #53 on:** Aug 16, 2014 at 08:09 PM »

Nice! Backlit, Atty?

barrister · « **Reply #54 on:** Aug 18, 2014 at 02:07 PM »

I just got the remote today. All buttons working. Remote is 100% compatible.

Yes, it's backlit. Pero madilim naman ang backlight, not too useful.

In a bright room, no backlight is visible at all. In a dim room, the backlight is so faint that it's barely visible. In a dark room, backlight is visible, but still not bright enough for the button labels to be comfortably readable, so it's really not that useful.

barrister · « **Reply #55 on:** Aug 18, 2014 at 07:15 PM »

New Firmware --- version 1117.0, release date Aug. 13, 2014:

http://www.samsung.com/ph/support/model/PS51F8500ARXXP-downloads

revskie · « **Reply #56 on:** Aug 18, 2014 at 09:24 PM »

Chief manual upgrade ba ito? Di pwede auto download and install pag internet connected na? Thanks.

revskie · « **Reply #57 on:** Aug 18, 2014 at 09:35 PM »

Updating!

barrister · « **Reply #58 on:** Aug 18, 2014 at 09:55 PM »

Quote from: revskie on Aug 18, 2014 at 09:24 PM

Chief manual upgrade ba ito? Di pwede auto download and install pag internet connected na? Thanks.

Puwede naman. Sabi sa avsforum, mas reliable daw ang manual updating via USB flash drive, kaya nag USB na lang ako.

Before updating, disconnect all HDMI plugs, but be gentle and make sure you don't damage the TV's HDMI ports when pulling out the HDMI plugs.

After updating, reconnect all HDMI plugs, then reset to factory settings: Support > Self Diagnosis > Reset

Disconnection of HDMI plugs is not a requirement; it's just a precaution. Factory reset is not a requirement either, but it solves firmware update glitches, if any.

Warning: once the firmware is updated, it cannot be rolled back to a previous version.

revskie · « **Reply #59 on:** Aug 18, 2014 at 10:31 PM »

Updated to Version 1117. Cannot see any difference though. Hehehe.