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Re: What's your analog setup?
« Reply #30 on: Aug 20, 2014 at 01:18 PM »
parang bang tsiks ang mc cart boss...long legged, nice fronts, and a pretty face! ;D
Wow pang ms. universe! parang maganda nga tumunog ang MC.
Hindi naman siguro kabaligtaran nyan ang MM master? Short legged, flat-chested and ??? . . . just joking ;D Pag nakakarinig kasi ng vinyl setup hindi ko naitatanong sa owner kung anong cart yung nakakabit. I guess hindi pa talaga ako ganun ka-interested dati. ^-^

eto bagay na turntable sayo bossing if you like new one......(eto yung pangarap ko eh :D)
Gaganda naman nyan master, sige try ko din I-research muna sila.
I think nakarinig na ko ng AVID setup from one of the EBs before kila streetsmart not sure lang if that's the II SP. Yung Vpi Classic 3 sa youtube lang  ;D pero ibang klase din kahit yung classic 1 lang.

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Re: What's your analog setup?
« Reply #31 on: Aug 20, 2014 at 01:29 PM »
You can say that.  Mechanical noises (especially on turntables) and electrical ones too in the form of distortion caused by harmonics. That's why audio gear manfacturers give you the THD figure to illustrate how well they've managed the harmful effects of harmonics. 
Amen to that brader John.

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Re: What's your analog setup?
« Reply #32 on: Aug 20, 2014 at 05:00 PM »
Wow pang ms. universe! parang maganda nga tumunog ang MC.

mas maganda talaga bossing. detalyado. kya ang mahal din nga ng presyo. sabi nga ni tas eh, you should treat your cart as a hardware and not a consumable. and it should be directly proportional sa analog rig mo. wala pa akong nakita na bumili ng six figure TT na sinabitan lang ng m447g o ortofon concord.
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Re: What's your analog setup?
« Reply #33 on: Aug 20, 2014 at 05:37 PM »
mas maganda talaga bossing. detalyado. kya ang mahal din nga ng presyo. sabi nga ni tas eh, you should treat your cart as a hardware and not a consumable. and it should be directly proportional sa analog rig mo. wala pa akong nakita na bumili ng six figure TT na sinabitan lang ng m447g o ortofon concord.

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Re: What's your analog setup?
« Reply #34 on: Aug 21, 2014 at 11:00 AM »
Ok so, sa details talaga ang difference from the mm.
Siguro kung ganun kamahal ang ttable dapat nasa top of the line cart na ang gamitin para you can extract the last bit and get the most out of the system. Mahal pala talaga but it makes sense kasi cart naman ang in direct contact sa vinyl.

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Re: What's your analog setup?
« Reply #35 on: Aug 21, 2014 at 11:22 AM »
Ok so, sa details talaga ang difference from the mm.
Siguro kung ganun kamahal ang ttable dapat nasa top of the line cart na ang gamitin para you can extract the last bit and get the most out of the system. Mahal pala talaga but it makes sense kasi cart naman ang in direct contact sa vinyl.

Not necessarily. Example is the Denon DL-103R. For me this is a "universal" cart which can be paired with low priced and hogh priced TTs. You can get this at a sub-P15K price level. Huwag lang talaga Avid TT tapos Shure M44-7 kasi you won't be able to maximize your set-up. Tsaka w/ Analog itbis also all about matching --> TT, Arm, Cables, Cart, Internal Arm Cabling, Headshell Cable, etc.

I am sure you'll be one of Avid's proud owner soon! :P
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Re: What's your analog setup?
« Reply #36 on: Aug 22, 2014 at 12:03 AM »
I'm sure all owners are proud of their Avids bro, sadly I'm way out of their league. Hopefully pag may dumating na blessings why not.  ^-^

But there are far more expensive carts than denon. I mean if compared to the top of the line denon dl-s1 w/c is just under $1000, do you think the improvement from dl-103 is justifiable? Lets say if used w/ a $1500 table w/ tonearm?

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Re: What's your analog setup?
« Reply #37 on: Aug 22, 2014 at 12:05 AM »
Can't really say bro. Sometimes it's matching. Can recommend a nice MC cart though that can play all genres w/gusto: Benz Glider MC. If you're in a budget, the Benz MC Gold is also good!
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Re: What's your analog setup?
« Reply #38 on: Aug 22, 2014 at 12:30 AM »
Understood, IME you just can rely on every good reviews you get from the net they're just there to guide us. Iba pa din yung first hand experience kaso ang gastos magpalit ng cart every time you buy one just to find out that it doesn't match your system. Sent you PM.

Yep been reading about benz micro and they're really good for the price daw.

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Re: What's your analog setup?
« Reply #39 on: Aug 22, 2014 at 01:55 AM »
Understood, IME you just can rely on every good reviews you get from the net they're just there to guide us. Iba pa din yung first hand experience kaso ang gastos magpalit ng cart every time you buy one just to find out that it doesn't match your system. Sent you PM.

Yep been reading about benz micro and they're really good for the price daw.

The Denon DL-103R is pretty much "universal". Tried it out w/ direct drive TTs, Rega P3-24, SL-1200mk5, VPI HW-19, Lenco L-75. Benz and Ortofon carts are very much universal as well, meaning they've bern used in different TTs and they match well...
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Re: What's your analog setup?
« Reply #40 on: Aug 22, 2014 at 06:30 AM »
Interestimg thread. Very educational.  ;)

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Re: What's your analog setup?
« Reply #41 on: Aug 22, 2014 at 05:39 PM »
The Denon DL-103R is pretty much "universal". Tried it out w/ direct drive TTs, Rega P3-24, SL-1200mk5, VPI HW-19, Lenco L-75. Benz and Ortofon carts are very much universal as well, meaning they've bern used in different TTs and they match well...
Noted bro, sige I will try one of the brands you mentioned first. Mukang mas safe sya for a first timer tnx.

Interestimg thread. Very educational.  ;)
Tara bro, try mo na din mag-analog. ^-^

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Re: What's your analog setup?
« Reply #42 on: Aug 22, 2014 at 05:43 PM »
GO! :D
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Re: What's your analog setup?
« Reply #43 on: Aug 22, 2014 at 05:47 PM »
Denon DL110 on a Rega P3-24 through Eastern Electric Minimax Phonostage being amplified by Hegel H80 via Furutech ICs then singing through the Harbeth Shl5 via Kimber 4PR speaker wires
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Re: What's your analog setup?
« Reply #44 on: Aug 22, 2014 at 06:00 PM »
Denon DL110 on a Rega P3-24 through Eastern Electric Minimax Phonostage being amplified by Hegel H80 via Furutech ICs then singing through the Harbeth Shl5 via Kimber 4PR speaker wires

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Re: What's your analog setup?
« Reply #45 on: Aug 22, 2014 at 06:09 PM »
Denon DL110 on a Rega P3-24 through Eastern Electric Minimax Phonostage being amplified by Hegel H80 via Furutech ICs then singing through the Harbeth Shl5 via Kimber 4PR speaker wires

Sir would you know if there's a workaround for the DL-110 para magamit sa mga metal platters? Cos I have a friend who ordered the same cart abroad only to find out na hindi pala pwede sa steel platter nya. Sayang kasi he's selling it now for a very low price.

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Re: What's your analog setup?
« Reply #46 on: Aug 22, 2014 at 06:49 PM »
Sir would you know if there's a workaround for the DL-110 para magamit sa mga metal platters? Cos I have a friend who ordered the same cart abroad only to find out na hindi pala pwede sa steel platter nya. Sayang kasi he's selling it now for a very low price.

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Re: What's your analog setup?
« Reply #47 on: Aug 22, 2014 at 06:50 PM »
Sir would you know if there's a workaround for the DL-110 para magamit sa mga metal platters? Cos I have a friend who ordered the same cart abroad only to find out na hindi pala pwede sa steel platter nya. Sayang kasi he's selling it now for a very low price.

usually ang mga platter boss eh aluminium alloy or acrylic. bka malakas ang pull ng magnet ng dl110 kya di pwede sa metal platter. bilhin ko na lang bossing. hehehehe ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: What's your analog setup?
« Reply #48 on: Aug 22, 2014 at 06:52 PM »
Denon DL110 on a Rega P3-24 through Eastern Electric Minimax Phonostage being amplified by Hegel H80 via Furutech ICs then singing through the Harbeth Shl5 via Kimber 4PR speaker wires

next upgrade:: mid level mc low cart >:D
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Re: What's your analog setup?
« Reply #49 on: Aug 22, 2014 at 09:21 PM »
Tara bro, try mo na din mag-analog. ^-^
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hehe don't know where to start, anu ba magandang brand na affordable bro? :)

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Re: What's your analog setup?
« Reply #50 on: Aug 23, 2014 at 01:48 AM »
next upgrade:: mid level mc low cart >:D
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Re: What's your analog setup?
« Reply #51 on: Aug 23, 2014 at 02:19 AM »
Tara bro, try mo na din mag-analog. ^-^


hehe don't know where to start, anu ba magandang brand na affordable bro? :)
mga bossing hindi pang entry level na analog ang kailangan ninyo. baka magmukhang squatter pag naitabi sa accuphase....yun ba bossing na pag pinagsamasama nyo yung ic,speaker cables, and power cables eh mas mahal naman yung analog setup. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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may napupusuan ka na ba atty?
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Re: What's your analog setup?
« Reply #52 on: Aug 23, 2014 at 03:11 AM »
Wala pa boss. Any recommendations? Resolution at air habol ko.
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Re: What's your analog setup?
« Reply #53 on: Aug 23, 2014 at 02:46 PM »
Thick record mat made of vinyl. Like Oracle's groove isolator.
Ok sir thanks, will tell him to try that.

usually ang mga platter boss eh aluminium alloy or acrylic. bka malakas ang pull ng magnet ng dl110 kya di pwede sa metal platter. bilhin ko na lang bossing. hehehehe ;D ;D ;D ;D
Parang ganun na nga yata master. Sabihin ko, kung i-let go nya kayo na lang mag-usap.

hehe don't know where to start, anu ba magandang brand na affordable bro? :)
Sa first page bro madami choices pwede gawin reference pero syempre depende pa din sa budget mo.
Ako honestly, hindi pa decided kung ano kukunin konting tanong pa siguro sa mga masters dito.

mga bossing hindi pang entry level na analog ang kailangan ninyo. baka magmukhang squatter pag naitabi sa accuphase....yun ba bossing na pag pinagsamasama nyo yung ic,speaker cables, and power cables eh mas mahal naman yung analog setup. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: What's your analog setup?
« Reply #54 on: Aug 23, 2014 at 03:46 PM »
Wala pa boss. Any recommendations? Resolution at air habol ko.

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Re: What's your analog setup?
« Reply #55 on: Aug 24, 2014 at 02:37 PM »
Baka makatulong ito sa gusto mag analog  Phono FAQ from Van den Hul   :) ;)

1 Q: Why are there 2 different types of phono cartridges: Moving Magnet (M.M.) and Moving Coil (M.C.) ?
A: This has partly to do with the principle of signal generation and partly with the cost of production.
Theoretically it does not make a big difference whether you move the magnet and hold the coil or vice versa.The difference in sound by the way is on the plus for the Moving Coil systems, because with the M.C. principle the manner in which the magnetic field variation interacts with the coil is more correct. Also the mechanical stability of the cantilever and stylus is in most cases better. This produces better sonic results.Especially the channel separation is higher with M.C. cartridges. Also the mechanical resonance frequency is higher so intermodulation distortion is lower.
There is one disadvantage with M.C. systems: the output is lower, so you need an extra step-up device like a transformer or a typical M.C. amplifier.

2 Q: Which of the 2 phono systems, M.M. or M.C. has a longer expected lifespan ?
A: The construction of the M.M. is, related to the lower price, always somewhat more industrial. So expected lifetime is normally shorter.
Also by reason of the generally lower reproduction quality, the quality of the stylus is limited. So stylus wear is usually higher. This is in advantage of M.C. systems. The application of aluminum for the cantilever also limits the total lifespan. Despite this, with care a M.M. system can give you years of pleasure. And when you buy one, at the same time already
buy your spare replacement stylus unit. You never know what the manufacturer will do in the future.

3 Q: Which of the two, M.M. or M.C., will sound better ?
A: In practically al cases, the M.C. sounds better.Especially owing to the construction, the dynamics, the detail and the resolution are better. Also in the field of channel separation the M.C. systems score higher. So a higher delight for the ears.

4 Q: What parts of a M.M. are most critical ?
A: Always be careful with the aluminum cantilever. The little aluminum tube with its thin walls is weak and can be destroyed by a light mechanical pulse. Also give the stylus enough attention. Stylus wear happens as a result of the mechanical tracking process. And never solder your tiny tone arm leads tot the mounting pins: At the same time you desolder the internally connected coil wires or break the fixing in the rear panel due to exposure to heat. Coil systems of M.M. cartridges are made of copper wire with a diameter of around 20 micron (0.02 mm) or even less. A human hair is about 80 micron. Just to give you an idea.

5 Q: What parts of a M.C. cartridge are most critical ?
A: Again the stylus, the cantilever and the suspension. The stylus can have all kind of shapes. The mounting or fixing of the stylus on the cantilever can be damaged by the application of cleaning liquids contaminated with oil . This softens the epoxy glue so the tip will fall of within 6 - 12 months. Cleaning the cantilever with water can damage the aluminum. It causes corrosion when the pH factor is not around 7 (= neutral). When the cleaning liquid contains oil, the oil will creep along the cantilever and will finally reach the rubber suspension along the coil. This is the beginning of the end of the damping properties of the rubber suspension pad. So NEVER use any oil containing cleaning liquid .
Don’t forget: A clean record always sound better than a dirty one. So keep your records as clean as possible.
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Re: What's your analog setup?
« Reply #56 on: Aug 24, 2014 at 11:51 PM »
Thanks sir, that was a very useful info.

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Re: What's your analog setup?
« Reply #57 on: Aug 28, 2014 at 05:13 AM »
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Re: What's your analog setup?
« Reply #58 on: Sep 10, 2014 at 02:56 AM »


Here's mine...

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Re: What's your analog setup?
« Reply #59 on: Sep 10, 2014 at 06:46 AM »


Here's mine...

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