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« Reply #120 on: Mar 11, 2016 at 11:35 AM »
Talk about spiritual growth...  ^-^
what?! are you talkin' to me!!!

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« Reply #121 on: Mar 11, 2016 at 12:54 PM »
"Obey church administration and you will receive salvation"

Grabe... Ang tindi...
There is none righteous, no not one.

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« Reply #122 on: Mar 11, 2016 at 01:34 PM »

eh yung sa el pudai, "siksik, lihlih at umaapaw", pag nag-ikapu...sabi ni brother mike...
how do we defend our freedom? by the truth when it is assaulted by Marcos lies....

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« Reply #123 on: Mar 14, 2016 at 05:46 PM »
« Last Edit: Mar 14, 2016 at 05:46 PM by tony »
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« Reply #124 on: Mar 14, 2016 at 05:59 PM »
Ano na'ng nangyari dun sa issue with Menorca?

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« Reply #125 on: Mar 14, 2016 at 07:51 PM »
flew like a bird....alam na...
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« Reply #126 on: Mar 15, 2016 at 03:47 AM »

this pretty much sums it all. To add, if your religion says that you will be the only ones saved, then you also need a new religion.
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« Reply #127 on: Mar 15, 2016 at 05:02 AM »
I remember my exGF, ramdam mo ang lalim ng pangaral ng simbahan nila, talagang to the dot kung sundin nila, ibang klase...

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« Reply #128 on: Mar 15, 2016 at 06:40 AM »
i remember a classmate in high school, nung tinuro ng teacher para magrecite ng topic, aba eh, pati comma, quotation raks at iba pa, nairecite....

religion should teach only one thing, "huwag kang magnakaw" yun lang at titino ang ating mundo...

nagtrabaho ako sa algeria ng higit three years, ang katwiran ng mga local, kaya raw maraming alibaba
ay kasalanan ng may-ari, sa kanila pag tinalikuran mo ang gamit mo, or iniwan mo na lang basta,
ibig sabihin daw noon ay ayaw mona at pwede na nilang kunin....katwirang arabo....

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« Reply #129 on: Mar 15, 2016 at 07:04 AM »
this pretty much sums it all. To add, if your religion says that you will be the only ones saved, then you also need a new religion.

+1 di lang naman inc.....

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« Reply #130 on: Mar 15, 2016 at 12:24 PM »
i remember a classmate in high school, nung tinuro ng teacher para magrecite ng topic, aba eh, pati comma, quotation raks at iba pa, nairecite....

religion should teach only one thing, "huwag kang magnakaw" yun lang at titino ang ating mundo...

nagtrabaho ako sa algeria ng higit three years, ang katwiran ng mga local, kaya raw maraming alibaba
ay kasalanan ng may-ari, sa kanila pag tinalikuran mo ang gamit mo, or iniwan mo na lang basta,
ibig sabihin daw noon ay ayaw mona at pwede na nilang kunin....katwirang arabo....



Ok yan sir. Pero bitin yan kasi kung ang itututro lang ng isang institution ay huwag magankaw, wala ngang magnanakaw pero puro bastos, rapists, uncontrolled drunkards, manyaks, basaguleros to name a few. Hehe!

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« Reply #131 on: Mar 15, 2016 at 12:28 PM »
Ok yan sir. Pero bitin yan kasi kung ang itututro lang ng isang institution ay huwag magankaw, wala ngang magnanakaw pero puro bastos, rapists, uncontrolled drunkards, manyaks, basaguleros to name a few. Hehe!

Pinalitan na niya yan - Love your fellowman na dapat.
There is none righteous, no not one.

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« Reply #132 on: Mar 15, 2016 at 12:35 PM »
Pinalitan na niya yan - Love your fellowman na dapat.

Yes nakita ko nga kanina sa kabilang thread after ko mag-reply. Hehe! Post mo yan sa LGBT issues, iba na naman ang meaning niyan. Haha!

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« Reply #133 on: Mar 15, 2016 at 01:08 PM »
Yes nakita ko nga kanina sa kabilang thread after ko mag-reply. Hehe! Post mo yan sa LGBT issues, iba na naman ang meaning niyan. Haha!

Sa mga free thinker kuno... alisin na ang "-man" dapat "Love your fellow" na lang.

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There is none righteous, no not one.

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« Reply #134 on: Mar 15, 2016 at 03:18 PM »
Yeah. Pero that's what they believe kasi. Dual kasi ang salvation sa kanila ang alam ko. Jesus and being a member of their church. Without one of them, you cannot be saved based on their doctrines. This came about during FM time when FM was developing his doctrines. It was also during the time when bible expository pa ang uso na bible explanation. The problem lang with exposition, walang boundaries in which to limit yourself in interpreting the bible. Madaling mag-inject ng personal view. Most expository type does not put into consideration the date, time and situation of the book when it was written.

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« Reply #135 on: Mar 15, 2016 at 05:09 PM »
tama ka nelson....
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« Reply #136 on: Mar 16, 2016 at 03:19 PM »
religion is truly the "opium " of the people....
it makes the believers lose their critical thinking, their own humanity,
to be replaced by whatever the doctrines their church teaches them...

it teaches the people to accept whatever the government do to them without thinking,
without question without complaints....they can not see what is behind the negativity and the complaining,
they are quick to dismiss, and quickly cringe at mere hint of dissent....

for according to them, the leaders were appointed by god....
and so we have to be subservient always...

so i wonder, which god will allow a president who is no longer qualified for a 3rd term,
to become a dictator?
perhaps they could be talking about another god....
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« Reply #137 on: Mar 16, 2016 at 03:30 PM »
It can also give people hope. It can also give them a sense of justice. It may also strengthen their moral values. It can also give purpose to their lives.


Depending on how you look at it. Hehe!

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« Reply #138 on: Mar 16, 2016 at 03:41 PM »
It can also give people hope. It can also give them a sense of justice. It may also strengthen their moral values. It can also give purpose to their lives.


Depending on how you look at it. Hehe!

right again, depende kung sino ang nagsasalita...
me narinig akong kapitbahay na nga born against,
malakas ang sound system nila.... sabi ng pastor pag hindi daw nagbigay ng ikapu.
ninanakawan daw ang diyos.......ano daw?

kaya hayun at kakaunti na lang nag nakikita kong pumapasok, wala nang pang ikapu...
sigurop nahiya ng yung ibang mga members na nagnanakaw sa diyos...
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« Reply #139 on: Mar 16, 2016 at 04:21 PM »
right again, depende kung sino ang nagsasalita...
me narinig akong kapitbahay na nga born against,
malakas ang sound system nila.... sabi ng pastor pag hindi daw nagbigay ng ikapu.
ninanakawan daw ang diyos.......ano daw?

kaya hayun at kakaunti na lang nag nakikita kong pumapasok, wala nang pang ikapu...
sigurop nahiya ng yung ibang mga members na nagnanakaw sa diyos...

Hehe! That's for the Jews ang alam ko. Why? Because the tithes is used to run the whole jewish system or government during the old testament times. Kapag tithes, as sir atty. Barrister mentioned, it was not simply 10%. May mga rules din governing that sa old testament. Ang alam ko ngayon, you give freely. Why do you give? Because it's a form of giving back to God what God has provided for us. And it is supposed to be used by the church to spread the word, enable the church workers and volunteers and equip them. Kung paano ang measurement, walang measurement. Kaya nga daw ninanakaw because during the old testament, ito na yun pinaka-tax ng mga tao which is used to run the jewish system or government. Di ba supposedly when we don't pay the right taxes, we are in effect, also stealing from the government?

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« Reply #140 on: Mar 16, 2016 at 07:52 PM »
ej bakit kasi lahat ng nakasulat sa bible inaring lubos ng mga born against...
tahimik na rin ang sound system nila, pero yung banda sige parin kahit hindi kasing ingay...
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« Reply #141 on: Mar 16, 2016 at 08:02 PM »
ej bakit kasi lahat ng nakasulat sa bible inaring lubos ng mga born against...
tahimik na rin ang sound system nila, pero yung banda sige parin kahit hindi kasing ingay...

Master Tony hindi ko na-gets yun meaning nung "inari yun lahat ng nakasulat". Hehe!

With regards to sound system, you mean yun may banda sa loob ng church ba?

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« Reply #142 on: Mar 17, 2016 at 07:52 AM »
well as long as nakasulat sa lumang tipan, kanila rin yon...mga hudyo rin sila...;)

yes, maliit na  kapilya me banda pag sunday, actually hindi na sila kasing ingay tulad ng dati,,,
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« Reply #143 on: Mar 17, 2016 at 08:13 AM »
well as long as nakasulat sa lumang tipan, kanila rin yon...mga hudyo rin sila...;)

yes, maliit na  kapilya me banda pag sunday, actually hindi na sila kasing ingay tulad ng dati,,,

I see what you mean. Hehe! Hindi lahat ng nakasulat sa lumang tipan is obsolete na. And both the old and new testament is applicable not only for believers but non-believers as well. But if you mean inari nila ang salvation, that is a debatable issue kasi though specific ang bible when it comes to that, a lot of people have taken it out of context by "claiming" it through adding certain verses not relevant to salvation and connecting it.

Ah yun banda. Hehe! I would think na may mali yun simbahan kasi hindi sila dapat nakakabulabog ng neighbor.

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« Reply #144 on: Mar 17, 2016 at 08:20 AM »
oo nga, tapos makakarinig ka pa na sabi ng pastor, "ninanakawan ang Diyos" muntik na akong mapasugod at magsama ng pulis para hulihin yung mga magnanakaw..... >:D >:D >:D
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« Reply #145 on: Mar 17, 2016 at 08:38 AM »
But if you mean inari nila ang salvation, that is a debatable issue kasi though specific ang bible when it comes to that, a lot of people have taken it out of context by "claiming" it through adding certain verses not relevant to salvation and connecting it.


Bro pabayaan mo na na ariin ng lahat ng relihiyon ang salvation. Wala namang makapagpapatunay nyan not unless maghukom na. If we take that positively, lahat ng  tao ay maliligtas, di ba maganda? hehe
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« Reply #146 on: May 04, 2016 at 03:26 PM »
what?! are you talkin' to me!!!

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« Reply #147 on: May 04, 2016 at 06:46 PM »
good for him....
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« Reply #148 on: May 05, 2016 at 01:35 PM »
Sana matalo si bbm at duterte para mawala na yang pakikialam ng inc na yan sa gobyerno. dapat kasi ang mga kandidato di na pinapansin ang mga ganyang religion... :(

Dalhin ko lang sa mas naakmang topic... 

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« Reply #149 on: May 05, 2016 at 02:06 PM »
Tama po ba na sina Duterte at Bongbong na ang iboboto nila? O bawal po i-reveal?
Lahat po ba sumusunod dito?
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