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« Reply #150 on: May 05, 2016 at 02:09 PM »
Tama po ba na sina Duterte at Bongbong na ang iboboto nila? O bawal po i-reveal?
Lahat po ba sumusunod dito?
Lahat daw ng kandidato pumila. Pati si Pnoy nagbakasakali, siguro solid nga talaga sila.

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« Reply #151 on: May 05, 2016 at 02:14 PM »
From what I was told by my INC friends, they are pretty much solid. Sinasabi nila na they feel around 95% vote as per what their elders tell them.

I dont know how true.

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« Reply #152 on: May 05, 2016 at 02:18 PM »
From what I was told by my INC friends, they are pretty much solid. Sinasabi nila na they feel around 95% vote as per what their elders tell them.

I dont know how true.

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Madaling i-trace yan per precinct kung gusto nila.  Total of members in a precinct = min votes.  Mas lalo na in precincts where registration is, all INC, remember may mga housing or communities sila.
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« Reply #153 on: May 05, 2016 at 03:36 PM »
yun mga nag rally sa EDSA dun matatancha mo na kung gaano sila ka solid. may daan libo ba pumunta dun?

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« Reply #154 on: May 05, 2016 at 03:52 PM »
Mukhang ALDUB na talaga ang ieendorso nila -  ALyansang DUterte at Bongbong.

Ano kaya ang pinangako ni Dutz kay Manalo nung nagmeeting sila?
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« Reply #155 on: May 06, 2016 at 08:53 AM »
From what I was told by my INC friends, they are pretty much solid. Sinasabi nila na they feel around 95% vote as per what their elders tell them.

I dont know how true.

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that is true, Manalo is their god....no one dares disobey him or else matutulad sila kay Menorca...
how do we defend our freedom? by the truth when it is assaulted by Marcos lies....

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« Reply #156 on: May 06, 2016 at 09:01 AM »
I interviewed one of my INC friends last night.

The choice of Presidentiable and VP... was presented to them as a "teaching".

Meaning, it is still up to the member whether or not he decides to abide by the teaching.

I asked if their elders will check who they voted for (since may receipt). Hindi daw... pero, my friend honestly believes the INC flock will follow what was taught them. He believes that around 90 to 95% (his figures) will vote Du30.

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« Reply #157 on: May 06, 2016 at 09:04 AM »
I interviewed one of my INC friends last night.

The choice of Presidentiable and VP... was presented to them as a "teaching".

Meaning, it is still up to the member whether or not he decides to abide by the teaching.

I asked if their elders will check who they voted for (since may receipt). Hindi daw... pero, my friend honestly believes the INC flock will follow what was taught them. He believes that around 90 to 95% (his figures) will vote Du30.

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they do not have free will, what manalo tells them, that is law....
how do we defend our freedom? by the truth when it is assaulted by Marcos lies....

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« Reply #158 on: May 06, 2016 at 11:07 AM »
they do not have free will, what manalo tells them, that is law....

They have--- but they just cannot resist to go against the dictates of the Supremo.
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« Reply #159 on: May 06, 2016 at 07:56 PM »
They have--- but they just cannot resist to go against the dictates of the Supremo.

so they have the free will to follow blindly....
how do we defend our freedom? by the truth when it is assaulted by Marcos lies....

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« Reply #160 on: May 06, 2016 at 11:20 PM »
Si Duterte, inendorso ng INC.

Kahit inamin ni Duterte na meron siyang dalawang asawa at dalawang girlfriend.  One girlfriend works as a cashier, the other girlfriend works at a mall.  Sabi pa ni Duterte, "Ano gagawin ko sa karga-karga ko?"  Marami raw siyang girlfriend noong bata pa siya, pero ngayon daw, short time na lang.

Inamin din ni Duterte na pumapatay siya ng tao.  At pararamihin pa ang papatayin, patatabain pa nga raw ang isda sa Manila Bay.

Kinuwento pa minolestiya niya ang housemaid.

Ngayon, ano masasabi mo sa relihiyon na mag-eendorso ng ganyang tao?

OK lang kung hindi relihiyon, pero kung relihiyon na sinasabing sumusunod sa biliya, tapos ok lang ang mag-endorso ng kahit sino basta number 1 sa surveys, para mapaniwala lang ang mga tao na malakas ang hatak ng boto ng iglesya nila, e matibay na talaga sikmura ng mga ito.
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« Reply #161 on: May 07, 2016 at 01:16 AM »
Si Duterte, inendorso ng INC.

Kahit inamin ni Duterte na meron siyang dalawang asawa at dalawang girlfriend.  One girlfriend works as a cashier, the other girlfriend works at a mall.  Sabi pa ni Duterte, "Ano gagawin ko sa karga-karga ko?"  Marami raw siyang girlfriend noong bata pa siya, pero ngayon daw, short time na lang.

Inamin din ni Duterte na pumapatay siya ng tao.  At pararamihin pa ang papatayin, patatabain pa nga raw ang isda sa Manila Bay.

Kinuwento pa minolestiya niya ang housemaid.

Ngayon, ano masasabi mo sa relihiyon na mag-eendorso ng ganyang tao?

OK lang kung hindi relihiyon, pero kung relihiyon na sinasabing sumusunod sa biliya, tapos ok lang ang mag-endorso ng kahit sino basta number 1 sa surveys, para mapaniwala lang ang mga tao na malakas ang hatak ng boto ng iglesya nila, e matibay na talaga sikmura ng mga ito.

this country is really going to the dogs. religion and politics, parehong may vested interests.
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« Reply #162 on: May 07, 2016 at 04:58 AM »
its not going....alredi der na

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« Reply #163 on: May 07, 2016 at 05:12 AM »
Si Duterte, inendorso ng INC.

Kahit inamin ni Duterte na meron siyang dalawang asawa at dalawang girlfriend.  One girlfriend works as a cashier, the other girlfriend works at a mall.  Sabi pa ni Duterte, "Ano gagawin ko sa karga-karga ko?"  Marami raw siyang girlfriend noong bata pa siya, pero ngayon daw, short time na lang.

Inamin din ni Duterte na pumapatay siya ng tao.  At pararamihin pa ang papatayin, patatabain pa nga raw ang isda sa Manila Bay.

Kinuwento pa minolestiya niya ang housemaid.

Ngayon, ano masasabi mo sa relihiyon na mag-eendorso ng ganyang tao?

OK lang kung hindi relihiyon, pero kung relihiyon na sinasabing sumusunod sa biliya, tapos ok lang ang mag-endorso ng kahit sino basta number 1 sa surveys, para mapaniwala lang ang mga tao na malakas ang hatak ng boto ng iglesya nila, e matibay na talaga sikmura ng mga ito.

E paano kung relihiyosong tao na nagsasabing na sumusunod sya sa bibliya pero iboboto/ieendorso pa rin si si duterte? Maituturing pa rin bang relihiyosong tao yun?
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« Reply #164 on: May 07, 2016 at 06:56 AM »
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Ngayon, ano masasabi mo sa relihiyon na mag-eendorso ng ganyang tao?

iglesia ni manalo.... >:D
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« Reply #165 on: May 07, 2016 at 07:01 AM »
Ngayon, ano masasabi mo sa relihiyon na mag-eendorso ng ganyang tao?

Hindi mapanghusga?
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« Reply #166 on: May 07, 2016 at 07:07 AM »
well you have to understand, as a leader of a church, he has to look after what is good
for his followers.....
how many of his lawyers get to become fiscals, judges.....nbi agents...
how many of his followers in the military and police get promotions....
in other words, how many of his members get to land a government job....
alam na.....
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« Reply #167 on: May 07, 2016 at 10:41 AM »
well you have to understand, as a leader of a church, he has to look after what is good
for his followers.....
how many of his lawyers get to become fiscals, judges.....nbi agents...
how many of his followers in the military and police get promotions....
in other words, how many of his members get to land a government job....
alam na.....

it all boils down to one thing with this endorsement. vested interests. so nawala na yung teachings to tread the righteous path and to stand for what is right and just. all in the name of personal gain.
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« Reply #168 on: May 07, 2016 at 12:03 PM »
it all boils down to one thing with this endorsement. vested interests. so nawala na yung teachings to tread the righteous path and to stand for what is right and just. all in the name of personal gain.

sabi ng iba... hindi lang daw mapanghusga ang INC... toink... kaya kahit sino basta leading sa survey iyon ang endorse nila... toink ulit.
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« Reply #169 on: May 07, 2016 at 01:06 PM »
INC child brainwashing video  :o
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3nmYOQIidqo


Maybe Duterte can comission INC to make videos like this for him for his upcoming regime.

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« Reply #170 on: May 07, 2016 at 04:49 PM »
sabi ng iba... hindi lang daw mapanghusga ang INC... toink... kaya kahit sino basta leading sa survey iyon ang endorse nila... toink ulit.


Hindi raw mapanghusga ang INC.

Sample ng aral nila:  Paring Katoliko at Pastor Protestante ay mga ministro ni Satanas.


“Kaninong Ministro kung gayon ang mga Paring Katoliko? Mga Ministro ni Satanas na Diablo” (Pasugo, Dis. 1965, p. 5)

“Kaya sa wakas ng lathalaing ito dapat na nating itakwil ang mga paring katoliko at ang mga pastor protestante, sapagkat SILA’Y MGA MINISTRO NI SATANAS. Dapat din nating itakuwil ang Iglesia Katolika at ang iba’t ibang iglesia protestante, sapagkat sila’y hindi sa Diyos, kundi sila’y kay Satanas o sa demonyo. Ang pagtatakuwil ninyo sa kanila at sa kanilang mga maling aral ay pagsunod ninyo sa Diyos, kay Cristo at sa mga Apostol.”  (Pasugo, Ago. 1961, p. 39)


Hindi pala mapanghusga, ha.  ;D
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« Reply #171 on: May 07, 2016 at 04:50 PM »
soon duterte will make bayad.utang ?

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« Reply #172 on: May 07, 2016 at 05:30 PM »
simple lang ang kabayaran, ilagay ang mga kasapi ng iglesia no manalo sa supreme court, police at militar at sa customs o sa LTO....mahirap bang gawin yon?
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« Reply #173 on: May 07, 2016 at 06:28 PM »
ayos! church n state hiwalay ?

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« Reply #174 on: May 07, 2016 at 07:54 PM »
E paano kung relihiyosong tao na nagsasabing na sumusunod sya sa bibliya pero iboboto/ieendorso pa rin si si duterte? Maituturing pa rin bang relihiyosong tao yun?

Sir I think iba ang function ng leader vs individual. Like what Ka Rene said:

ayos! church n state hiwalay ?

I think the difference sir Rusty lies in the influence. As a leader, you have influence over your people unlike sa individual na medjo suggestive lang.
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« Reply #175 on: May 10, 2016 at 11:04 AM »
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Quote from: dpogs on May 05, 2016 at 01:30 PM
Sana matalo si bbm at duterte para mawala na yang pakikialam ng inc na yan sa gobyerno. dapat kasi ang mga kandidato di na pinapansin ang mga ganyang religion... :(


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« Reply #176 on: May 10, 2016 at 03:23 PM »
Local LP line up ang sinuportahan ng INC dito sa amin, except 1 SB....na challenge yata yung hindi isinama....ayun, number 1 na SB tuloy....ha ha ha....panis ang INC, considering na walang pondo yung tao...ako nga rin ay di maniniwalang manalo sya, pero nasa kanya pala ang karisma ng nanay nya na na-car accident/namatay na mayor. Dati ring mayor ang tatay...
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« Reply #177 on: May 12, 2016 at 11:38 AM »
yes, like Poe in 2013, who would haave thought.....the INC relies solely on surveys....
how do we defend our freedom? by the truth when it is assaulted by Marcos lies....

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« Reply #178 on: May 22, 2016 at 09:50 AM »
konti attendees sa evangelical mission? hindi hebi traffic

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« Reply #179 on: May 30, 2016 at 06:58 AM »
olats bbm, split vote inc?