Author Topic: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?  (Read 7165 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline MrDeckard

  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Collector
  • **
  • Posts: 120
  • Please be kind.
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« on: Nov 06, 2016 at 12:13 PM »
Hi All:

Need your opinion mga master. Have a cambrige cxn (which has a superb dac) paired with a rega elex r feeding a vintage dyn contour 1.1.

Been using spotify connect and hd files from nas which kept my system simple and clean.

Becuase spotify does not really give out hidef sound, am looking at the next step as far as source is concerned.

My question is: is it still worth buying a cd player and cds if sq is my concern? Or just buy hd tracks online and feed through cxn?

Thanks!

Offline zram18

  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • DVD Addict
  • ***
  • Posts: 781
  • Please be kind.
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 1
Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #1 on: Nov 06, 2016 at 12:36 PM »
dedicated cd player is expensive because of the dac inside but u already have superb dac. just buy simpler cd player as transport and use ur present dac via optical out.

Offline Courage

  • Trade Count: (+64)
  • PinoyDVD Legend
  • *****
  • Posts: 11,164
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 2
Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #2 on: Nov 06, 2016 at 01:55 PM »
Hi All:

Need your opinion mga master. Have a cambrige cxn (which has a superb dac) paired with a rega elex r feeding a vintage dyn contour 1.1.

Been using spotify connect and hd files from nas which kept my system simple and clean.

Becuase spotify does not really give out hidef sound, am looking at the next step as far as source is concerned.

My question is: is it still worth buying a cd player and cds if sq is my concern? Or just buy hd tracks online and feed through cxn?

Thanks!

I have a Marantz NA6005, a DAC which is connected to a Laptop but still i bought a CD Player a month ago. Why? Sarap pa din mag play ng CD's. Isa pa, sa dami kong collection ng music sa NAS it's really hard to choose which to play sa Marantz or sa PC na naka connect sa DAC.

With the CD player, i bought my fav albums. Put it in and play. So simple and easy.
Rega Elex-R, Ref 3a De Capo, Marantz SA8005/NA6005, REL R-528, Wyred 4 Sound, PSB, SVS, Yamaha

Offline coastal

  • Trade Count: (+260)
  • PinoyDVD Legend
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,560
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #3 on: Nov 06, 2016 at 03:43 PM »
If you have lots of cds, sure. Lately, I've using an old Toshiba bd player since I also have some bd audios that I listen to.

Offline MrDeckard

  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Collector
  • **
  • Posts: 120
  • Please be kind.
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #4 on: Nov 06, 2016 at 04:35 PM »
Ok, if ill get a cd transport lang, what should i look out for? Any recommendations?

Offline Courage

  • Trade Count: (+64)
  • PinoyDVD Legend
  • *****
  • Posts: 11,164
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 2
Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #5 on: Nov 06, 2016 at 04:53 PM »
Ok, if ill get a cd transport lang, what should i look out for? Any recommendations?

Cambridge Audio CXC is good transport. Wala sya DAC, Transport lang talaga.

Or get the Marantz CD-5005, 6005 or 6.006.. You can play it using its own DAC or make it as a transport only.

Sayang kasi kung CD Transport lang bibilhin mo, tapos mahal pa. Better yung CD Player na lang mismo at least you have the option to make it as Transport only or you can use it as is. Pag nagka issue ang DAC mo at least you can still use the CD Player
Rega Elex-R, Ref 3a De Capo, Marantz SA8005/NA6005, REL R-528, Wyred 4 Sound, PSB, SVS, Yamaha

Offline at_sunset_blvd

  • Trade Count: (+632)
  • PinoyDVD Legend
  • *****
  • Posts: 4,192
  • ReLax & ClosE YoUr EyEs, FeeL tHe tOneS
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 155
Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #6 on: Nov 06, 2016 at 06:50 PM »
Yes I will still go for a CDP  ;)
The NeverEnding World of Tweak'n...

Offline Deckard

  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Collector
  • **
  • Posts: 89
  • I'm a llama!
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #7 on: Nov 07, 2016 at 03:18 PM »
Thanks all.
Now that its seems obvious I may need a physical media player: The obvious question next question:

CD PLAYER or TURN TABLE?

Is it still CD Player?

Offline Nelson de Leon

  • Trade Count: (+141)
  • PinoyDVD Legend
  • *****
  • Posts: 9,920
  • Let us lead by example
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 109
Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #8 on: Nov 07, 2016 at 03:31 PM »
Alam ko may higher resolution audio na ang Spotify. I don't have a Spotify account so can anybody confirm this?

Sent from my ASUS_Z012D using Tapatalk


Offline rochie

  • Trade Count: (+71)
  • DVD Guru
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,217
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #9 on: Nov 07, 2016 at 03:43 PM »
Alam ko may higher resolution audio na ang Spotify. I don't have a Spotify account so can anybody confirm this?

Sent from my ASUS_Z012D using Tapatalk



im still getting 320kbps ogg from spotify premium. deezer offers FLAC. i wanna switch to deezer coz of bigger song library kaya lang nanghihinayang ako sa personal playlist na naipon ko for the past 2 years.

Offline rochie

  • Trade Count: (+71)
  • DVD Guru
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,217
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #10 on: Nov 07, 2016 at 03:46 PM »
Thanks all.
Now that its seems obvious I may need a physical media player: The obvious question next question:

CD PLAYER or TURN TABLE?

Is it still CD Player?


 I have both, pati online streaming like Spotify Premium. may times na gusto ko lang makinig ng cd's lalo na pag tinatamad patayo tayo para mag salang ng plaka. newer songs/album usually CD ang medium ko yung mga classic rock naman ang nasa vinyl so depende lang sa mood kung alin gusto kong pakinggan. pag walang maisip na genre that's where I use streaming or may digital music player para naka random na lang yung buong flac/mp3 library ko.

Offline MrDeckard

  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Collector
  • **
  • Posts: 120
  • Please be kind.
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #11 on: Nov 07, 2016 at 03:52 PM »
Alam ko may higher resolution audio na ang Spotify. I don't have a Spotify account so can anybody confirm this?

Sent from my ASUS_Z012D using Tapatalk

The Cambridge CXN uses its own spotify connect app. Its the cxn that download/stream the songs. For some reason, the extreme or high quality streaming option menu is off when I use spotify via Cxn.

Offline rochie

  • Trade Count: (+71)
  • DVD Guru
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,217
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #12 on: Nov 07, 2016 at 03:58 PM »
The Cambridge CXN uses its own spotify connect app. Its the cxn that download/stream the songs. For some reason, the extreme or high quality streaming option menu is off when I use spotify via Cxn.

do you have a premium spotify account?

Offline onedown

  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • DVD Addict
  • ***
  • Posts: 947
  • peace man!
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #13 on: Nov 07, 2016 at 04:14 PM »
Thanks all.
Now that its seems obvious I may need a physical media player: The obvious question next question:

CD PLAYER or TURN TABLE?


Is it still CD Player?


depends how how much involvement you want while listening to music. with vinyl, you have to get up every half hour or so to flip the record. no way to skip tracks form your chair if you don't dig a particular track. you also have to set up the 'table. if you find these a hassle, stick to digital.
peace man!

Offline MrDeckard

  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Collector
  • **
  • Posts: 120
  • Please be kind.
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #14 on: Nov 07, 2016 at 04:22 PM »
@rochie, yep have premium spotify account

Offline rochie

  • Trade Count: (+71)
  • DVD Guru
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,217
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #15 on: Nov 07, 2016 at 04:27 PM »
@rochie, yep have premium spotify account
it should enable extreme or high quality streaming when you logged in to your account.

Offline MrDeckard

  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Collector
  • **
  • Posts: 120
  • Please be kind.
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #16 on: Nov 07, 2016 at 04:32 PM »
@rochie, i can from my iphone. But if i use the cxn, that extreme or high quality option menu is off

Offline Nelson de Leon

  • Trade Count: (+141)
  • PinoyDVD Legend
  • *****
  • Posts: 9,920
  • Let us lead by example
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 109
Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #17 on: Nov 07, 2016 at 04:32 PM »
it should enable extreme or high quality streaming when you logged in to your account.
Is high quality streaming red book quality na?

Sent from my ASUS_Z012D using Tapatalk


Offline rochie

  • Trade Count: (+71)
  • DVD Guru
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,217
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #18 on: Nov 07, 2016 at 04:39 PM »
Is high quality streaming red book quality na?

Sent from my ASUS_Z012D using Tapatalk



nope bossing Nelson, 320kbps lang max nila. 
https://support.spotify.com/us/article/What-bitrate-does-Spotify-use-for-streaming/

Offline rochie

  • Trade Count: (+71)
  • DVD Guru
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,217
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #19 on: Nov 07, 2016 at 04:41 PM »
@rochie, i can from my iphone. But if i use the cxn, that extreme or high quality option menu is off
can you login to spotify via cxn? and does your playlist shows in cxn? i suspect there's an error during authentication

Offline MrDeckard

  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Collector
  • **
  • Posts: 120
  • Please be kind.
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #20 on: Nov 07, 2016 at 05:39 PM »
I think spotify connect does not allow you to set the audio quality.

Offline at_sunset_blvd

  • Trade Count: (+632)
  • PinoyDVD Legend
  • *****
  • Posts: 4,192
  • ReLax & ClosE YoUr EyEs, FeeL tHe tOneS
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 155
Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #21 on: Nov 07, 2016 at 07:13 PM »
Thanks all.
Now that its seems obvious I may need a physical media player: The obvious question next question:

CD PLAYER or TURN TABLE?

Is it still CD Player?


I'll get Both too  :D
The NeverEnding World of Tweak'n...

Offline mbtorn

  • Trade Count: (+163)
  • DVD Guru
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,230
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 62
Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #22 on: Nov 07, 2016 at 07:17 PM »
You can't go wrong having both digital (cd player and music server) and analog (turntable).
oppoepsononkyoklipschsvs
accuphaseaudioresearchkrellharbeth
pmcmusettehypexauralicsonusfaberrel

Offline shoktongxxx

  • Trade Count: (+37)
  • PinoyDVD Legend
  • *****
  • Posts: 3,115
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 64
Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #23 on: Nov 07, 2016 at 10:25 PM »

Offline MrDeckard

  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Collector
  • **
  • Posts: 120
  • Please be kind.
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #24 on: Nov 07, 2016 at 10:28 PM »
Ok if money is not an issue, ill get both.  But it is. Which is better option?

Offline shoktongxxx

  • Trade Count: (+37)
  • PinoyDVD Legend
  • *****
  • Posts: 3,115
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 64
Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #25 on: Nov 07, 2016 at 11:01 PM »
Ok if money is not an issue, ill get both.  But it is. Which is better option?
CD player for me, mas madali makakuha ng updates. :)

Offline Nelson de Leon

  • Trade Count: (+141)
  • PinoyDVD Legend
  • *****
  • Posts: 9,920
  • Let us lead by example
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 109
Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #26 on: Nov 08, 2016 at 12:52 AM »
nope bossing Nelson, 320kbps lang max nila. 
https://support.spotify.com/us/article/What-bitrate-does-Spotify-use-for-streaming/

320 is not at all bad for casual or not so critical listening. Many of us might not hear the difference at all. But for very critical listening, digital format for me in red book quality or studio master.

Ok if money is not an issue, ill get both.  But it is. Which is better option?

It's also a matter of preference. If money is an issue, then you might want to listen to different analog system first. Madami din gastos sa analog. Albums can be very expensive lalo na kung rare, hard to find, first releases, condition of the album. There are also needles that are expensive.

But first you really have to listen to both type of systems. There is what we sometimes call the "analog" sound. It could sometimes be the small pops and ticks. The "feeling" when you imagine the needle passing through the grooves of the album and creating wonderful music. There is no better option when choosing. Nagiging better option lang siya once you've listened to both systems and decide. Hehe!

Offline bongchillog

  • Trade Count: (+33)
  • DVD Addict
  • ***
  • Posts: 990
  • Please be kind.
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 1
Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #27 on: Nov 08, 2016 at 02:54 AM »
I think spotify connect does not allow you to set the audio quality.

Spotify connect setting will
Depend on the settings made on your phone settings or account settings. Extreme on phone should be extreme also on spotify connect. Afaik

You can try airplay or dlna and compare  the sq


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Offline MrDeckard

  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Collector
  • **
  • Posts: 120
  • Please be kind.
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #28 on: Nov 08, 2016 at 08:40 AM »
@bongchillog, the cxn does its own streaming, not the phone or an ext device which merely acts as a remote control.  There is no documentation if the cxn streams at extreme by default. This lack of documentation may mean streaming can be throttled depending on various factors.

Offline MrDeckard

  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Collector
  • **
  • Posts: 120
  • Please be kind.
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #29 on: Nov 08, 2016 at 08:42 AM »
@Nelson. Thanks for the insight.

Was half wishing people will tell me to avoid vinyl. So I guess i should open my mind to it :).