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Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #30 on: Nov 08, 2016 at 09:05 AM »
@bongchillog, the cxn does its own streaming, not the phone or an ext device which merely acts as a remote control.  There is no documentation if the cxn streams at extreme by default. This lack of documentation may mean streaming can be throttled depending on various factors.

I think i get what bongchillog means. afaik spotify will get the account settings on spotify's database so whatever settings you put in your mobile phone/tablet/laptop it will be also the settings/configurations that cxn will use when streaming audio after you logged in.

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Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #31 on: Nov 08, 2016 at 10:33 AM »
@deckard

Yes. You can email spotify regarding that issue.
I assume same account lang gamit mo.

Im using spotify connect too. Then tried airplay/dlna on same player, walang pagkakaiba sa sq.

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Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #32 on: Nov 08, 2016 at 07:06 PM »
Im using spotify connect too. Then tried airplay/dlna on same player, walang pagkakaiba sa sq.

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maganda ba sa RZ800 ang spotify bro? :)

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Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #33 on: Nov 08, 2016 at 07:12 PM »
Was half wishing people will tell me to avoid vinyl. So I guess i should open my mind to it :).

I guess more than HALF here loves the sound of Vinyls thats why it didnt get lots of vote in persuading you out , Get ready to enter the DARK SIDE soon  ;D
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Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #34 on: Nov 08, 2016 at 07:20 PM »
maganda ba sa RZ800 ang spotify bro? :)

Maganda bro, satisfying clear crisp audio @extreme mode sa spotify.



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Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #35 on: Nov 08, 2016 at 07:23 PM »
Maganda bro, satisfying clear crisp audio @extreme mode sa spotify.



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Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #36 on: Nov 12, 2016 at 10:55 PM »
Thank you all for the inputs. Got a SACD player plugged to my Cxn dac.

Immediately, i noticed the sound became more detailed and improved space and depth, compared to the spotify feed.

Thanks guys.

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Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #37 on: Nov 12, 2016 at 11:07 PM »
@Nelson. Thanks for the insight.

Was half wishing people will tell me to avoid vinyl. So I guess i should open my mind to it :).
Yeah. Tama naman yun you should keep an open mind especially when you are still on a hunt. Malay mo preference mo dba?

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Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #38 on: Nov 13, 2016 at 06:45 AM »
Thank you all for the inputs. Got a SACD player plugged to my Cxn dac.

Immediately, i noticed the sound became more detailed and improved space and depth, compared to the spotify feed.

Thanks guys.

Good Choice! now enjoy the music  ;)
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Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #39 on: Nov 21, 2016 at 10:24 AM »
Thank you all for the inputs. Got a SACD player plugged to my Cxn dac.

Immediately, i noticed the sound became more detailed and improved space and depth, compared to the spotify feed.

Thanks guys.

Congrats, safe and a nice choice!

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Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #40 on: Nov 22, 2016 at 07:48 AM »
Just to share my experience on the same dilemma I had a year ago.  I just bought a vinyl setup, and I have to admit that I loved the sound.  But a few weeks into it, I decided against it mainly due to the cost of the hobby, storage of vinyl and the hassle of playing one.  I guess for some people, this was part of the thrill.  I just wanted a clean sound that I can enjoy.  So I sold the vinyl set and shifted to a CD player in my main listening area and a Spotify headless player in our living room. No regrets :-)

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Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #41 on: Nov 22, 2016 at 09:00 AM »
I think the hassle of cleaning the records and setting up are not quite suited for some people. I also bought a vinyl set-up and received a few records from a friend but ended up selling the vinyl set-up after about a few months.

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Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #42 on: Nov 22, 2016 at 05:12 PM »
Thats also the reason am hesitant to go vinyl. My habits are incompatible with the demands of a turntable system

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Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #43 on: Nov 22, 2016 at 09:46 PM »
Congrats chief! ;)

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Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #44 on: Dec 17, 2016 at 08:21 PM »
Turntables and vinyl are not for everybody.  To get sound that beats CD, you have to spend big - both on gear and records. If you're after the ultimate sound and you have the dough, vinyl is the way to go.

But come to think of it, Rene Rivo is selling a start-up vinyl setup for 40T composed of 2nd hand Jap turntable, modified Sakura tubed amp with built-in phono stage, and small PSB speakers.  Hard to believe he was able to extract the strengths and characteristics of vinyl sound with such a budget setup but he definitely did.
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Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #45 on: Dec 19, 2016 at 12:04 PM »
I myself am actually looking for a cd player with usb input capability at a very reasonable price, probably second hand, CD-lifestyle seems to suit me better as I tend to have a nomadic tendency...

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Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #46 on: Dec 19, 2016 at 02:41 PM »
USB output is what you mean, right?  You want, as an option, to extract the digital signal via USB and input it in your external DAC, right?

So far, in my experience, most of the CD players good for hifi audio only has SPDIF (coaxial) or optical output. With the SPDIF (coaxial), you will still need to buy a SPDIF to USB converter so that you can have a USB output from your CD player.

Hope the above helps.

I myself am actually looking for a cd player with usb input capability at a very reasonable price, probably second hand, CD-lifestyle seems to suit me better as I tend to have a nomadic tendency...

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Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #47 on: Dec 20, 2016 at 06:14 AM »
I myself am actually looking for a cd player with usb input capability at a very reasonable price, probably second hand, CD-lifestyle seems to suit me better as I tend to have a nomadic tendency...

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Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #48 on: Dec 20, 2016 at 12:55 PM »
A pioneer pd10 sacd with dac and usb input. 12k at glorietta

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Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #49 on: Dec 20, 2016 at 01:17 PM »
If I am getting a cd player today, this is what I will get

http://www.psaudio.com/directstream-memory-player/
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Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #50 on: Dec 20, 2016 at 01:51 PM »
If I am getting a cd player today, this is what I will get

http://www.psaudio.com/directstream-memory-player/

I wonder who in PDVD or Wiredstate has this.

I also wonder if this can really be at par with reel to reel or even turntable.

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Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #51 on: Dec 20, 2016 at 03:08 PM »
It can get close with tweaks and reclocking.  But also it is highly dependent on the quality of the external DAC.

The iFi Audio SPDIF iPurifier device can be connected to the SPDIF/coaxial output of the CDPlayer.  It re-clocks and provides galvanic isolotaion in order to improve the digital signal output before it enters into your dac.

Quote from iFi Audio:

The SPDIF iPurifier is partly a nod to past SPDIF devices including the Genesis Digital Lense. With the very latest AMR/iFI technology, it is suited to the gamut of SPDIF sources that are on the market today. It takes any barely recognisable ‘square wave’ and with REclock˚/REgenerate˚ the signal is back to a real-world, perfect wave form.


Another tweak for CD players is to upgrade the opamps.  One of my favorite opamps is the Burson opamps.

I wonder who in PDVD or Wiredstate has this.

I also wonder if this can really be at par with reel to reel or even turntable.

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Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #52 on: Dec 20, 2016 at 04:09 PM »
Just curious why many improvements or the proliferation of improvements focus on the timing only. Output signal represented by a sinusoidal waveform has both time and magnitude. And as such, improving time (or timing) only solves half of the problem. How about the other half?
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Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #53 on: Dec 22, 2016 at 12:33 PM »
One of the things I observed working as Test Engineer at Analog Devices was that the voltage reference used by our LTS 2020 tester was confined to one section of the tester main board and was inside an enclosure. The enclosure maintains a constant temperature to reduce voltage drift on the voltage reference.

In practical terms because the voltage reference is usually built-in the D/A converter IC it maybe a good idea to put a heatsink on top of this IC. This maybe overkill but looking back on the LTS 2020 tester everything there was overkill (I guess to make sure that extremely good accuracy during testing of analog IC like voltage references, D/A, A/D, multiplier etc. This way the D/A IC does not get very hot to reduce possible drift on the internal voltage reference.

So for tweaking DACs or CDPs I would suggest putting a heatsink on top of the D/A IC.

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Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #54 on: Feb 24, 2017 at 11:57 AM »
Ok if money is not an issue, ill get both.  But it is. Which is better option?

if money is not an issue then go for turntable, Sir Nelson is right its a matter of preference.


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Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #55 on: Feb 24, 2017 at 03:21 PM »
Makes me think twice again whether I should unload my Sony 400CD Changer player... but for some weird reason, I still remember the very first time I used a Sony Walkman using a Beatles cassette tape and always remember the purest joy of listening back then.

Since then, cassette tapes, cd, dvd, mini-dv and now cloud based streaming options later with all the potential techo gadget mix and enhancements, I still remember back to that first time listening to a cassette based Sony Walkman with the simplest bundled headsets.

And yes, I remember the vintage tube amp and the vinyl players and also the tricks that goes with it including the putting coins on top of the needle cartridge to beat those skips on the vinyl itself :)

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Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #56 on: Feb 24, 2017 at 06:54 PM »
Makes me think twice again whether I should unload my Sony 400CD Changer player... but for some weird reason, I still remember the very first time I used a Sony Walkman using a Beatles cassette tape and always remember the purest joy of listening back then.

yes one of the purest analog reproduction! ;) 


Since then, cassette tapes, cd, dvd, mini-dv and now cloud based streaming options later with all the potential techo gadget mix and enhancements, I still remember back to that first time listening to a cassette based Sony Walkman with the simplest bundled headsets.

And yes, I remember the vintage tube amp and the vinyl players and also the tricks that goes with it including the putting coins on top of the needle cartridge to beat those skips on the vinyl itself :)

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Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #57 on: Mar 10, 2017 at 08:02 PM »
For me CD Player and Turntable. Even though magastos at matrabaho ang vinyl, sulit naman pag tumunog. :)

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Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #58 on: Mar 11, 2017 at 07:28 PM »
For me CD Player and Turntable. Even though magastos at matrabaho ang vinyl, sulit naman pag tumunog. :)

+1

Best of both worlds w/ these 2 formats, highly enjoyable  ;)
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Re: Does getting a CD player make sense in 2016?
« Reply #59 on: Mar 11, 2017 at 07:52 PM »
Universal Player for Me. DVD Audio and SACD is very enjoyable.
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