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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1530 on: Jun 19, 2016 at 03:09 PM »
Yes Sir Jun, Promise ko kay Hepe yan, wala ng kasunod na project. mabuti na lang nasanay ako sa mga past track project natin dati. Kaya lahat ng project ko puro mabilisan. Tingin ka palagi dun sa forum nila then pag meron ka nakita at decided ka na, reserve agad natin. mabilis bentaha dun, maraming piranha.

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Ayyy!!! iba pala yan Jap version na "S" yoko nyan hehe. Yun DORIAN L-101 Lancer sana kung meron masilip ka. :)
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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1531 on: Jun 24, 2016 at 04:00 PM »
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« Reply #1532 on: Jun 24, 2016 at 11:15 PM »








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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1533 on: Jun 25, 2016 at 07:01 AM »
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well done, can you pm me cost to make that box? thanks..
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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1534 on: Jun 25, 2016 at 07:58 AM »
wow ronald, ayawan na!

my friend saw that cabinet while in progress...

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1535 on: Jun 25, 2016 at 08:21 AM »
Thanks Sir Tony, i PM ko po sa inyo, @ Dana so alam mo na kung saan ginagawa mga book shelf speaker ko? Ok siya gumawa, it was been implemented properly based on the design. Punta ka sa bahay ngayon para marinig mo, back to work na ako ulit bukas.


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« Reply #1536 on: Jun 25, 2016 at 01:38 PM »
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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1537 on: Jun 26, 2016 at 07:27 AM »
ronald, aalis ka na agad di ko pa naririnig  ;D ;D ;D ;D, ako paparating pa lang  ;), congrats!!! bro.  8)
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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1538 on: Jun 26, 2016 at 08:52 AM »
Ganyan talaga sir, back to work na ulit. Enjoy your vacation sir with your toys hehehe

ronald, aalis ka na agad di ko pa naririnig  ;D ;D ;D ;D, ako paparating pa lang  ;), congrats!!! bro.  8)



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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1539 on: Jun 26, 2016 at 11:48 AM »
#parasound, have a safe trip, kailan ang balik mp dito? thanks for the heads up...
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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1540 on: Jun 26, 2016 at 12:05 PM »
Thanks Sir Tony, baka December na po..

#parasound, have a safe trip, kailan ang balik mp dito? thanks for the heads up...



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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1541 on: Feb 09, 2018 at 11:34 AM »
Guys, buhayan ko lang thread na 'to..

A friend of mine just left to work abroad, he sold me his Crown floorstanders at Php 800 para lang mai-dispose ung unit (since kaibigan, I obliged to accept his sell offer).

I already have floorstanders for my HT, but I planned to use this crown fs for a bedroom set up (purely music). As expected the drivers & tweeters were cheap and the sound is not good for my taste. But the floorstanders itself did looked good & SQ could be improved

I planned to replace drivers, tweeters, wires & x'overs, purchase at partsexpress HiVi Svans woofers & Dayton Audio air motion tweeters of the same size as of the current drivers.

Question:
Any other suggestions? may other route ba nito that would improve SQ? & drivers that are locally available?

Medyo matagal pa kasi if sa partsexpress pa bibilhin ung drivers/tweeters
 

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1542 on: Feb 09, 2018 at 11:57 AM »
Guys, buhayan ko lang thread na 'to..

A friend of mine just left to work abroad, he sold me his Crown floorstanders at Php 800 para lang mai-dispose ung unit (since kaibigan, I obliged to accept his sell offer).

I already have floorstanders for my HT, but I planned to use this crown fs for a bedroom set up (purely music). As expected the drivers & tweeters were cheap and the sound is not good for my taste. But the floorstanders itself did looked good & SQ could be improved

I planned to replace drivers, tweeters, wires & x'overs, purchase at partsexpress HiVi Svans woofers & Dayton Audio air motion tweeters of the same size as of the current drivers.

Question:
Any other suggestions? may other route ba nito that would improve SQ? & drivers that are locally available?

Medyo matagal pa kasi if sa partsexpress pa bibilhin ung drivers/tweeters
 
Im good and okay with DIY however sa move na gagawin niyo, hindi kaya mascheaper if you buy a new pair of speakers? Parang enclosure na lang ang tinira niyo. Hehe!

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1543 on: Feb 09, 2018 at 12:17 PM »
Build from scratch na lang, baka cheap din enclosure materials sayang lang ang HQ drivers. Benta mo na lang sa akin yan as is, kaibigan! ;)
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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1544 on: Feb 09, 2018 at 01:18 PM »
^Sturdy naman ung enclosure, tapos mdf material. Hindi ko lang nacheck kung anong thickness..

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1545 on: Feb 10, 2018 at 07:50 AM »
Just go ahead sir, maganda rin yan naisip mo. As per experience kasi pinakamatagal gawin yang enclosure plus mahirap mag source ng material especially MDF, wala sa tabi tabi construction supply yan. DIY is sariling diskarte kaya nga "yourself" dulo eh sa bandang huli ikaw din magsisi. Patience is the key lang, wag mainip sa mga materyales at pag buo ng project.

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1546 on: Feb 10, 2018 at 08:45 AM »
enjoy it muna....just because it is a no name brand does not mean you can not enjoy it...

the first thing i will do is check the tweeters if they are not burned out yet..
then perhaps upgrade the dividing network to better caps, all electros needs to go... and chokes/coils made air core and thicker gauge...Edrel is your man for that...
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« Reply #1547 on: Feb 10, 2018 at 09:26 AM »
Just go ahead sir, maganda rin yan naisip mo. As per experience kasi pinakamatagal gawin yang enclosure plus mahirap mag source ng material especially MDF, wala sa tabi tabi construction supply yan. DIY is sariling diskarte kaya nga "yourself" dulo eh sa bandang huli ikaw din magsisi. Patience is the key lang, wag mainip sa mga materyales at pag buo ng project.

Agree. I have nothing to lose and everything to gain (maliban nalang if I get lemon items from partsexpress, wag naman sana!). Ung kasama ko sa work advised me to do DIY from scratch, ehh Im not good with woodworking hehehe. I could create a box but it wouldnt look good and it may not be sturdy enough..

@Sir Tony,
Noted! Un din inisip ko to change x'over 1st since available locally mga parts.. Many thanks
 

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« Reply #1548 on: Feb 10, 2018 at 10:35 AM »
if you can post pictures we can be more specific with suggestions..
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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1549 on: Feb 10, 2018 at 12:17 PM »
Agree with Sir Tony’s suggestion, try mo muna upgrade ang dividing network..


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« Reply #1550 on: Feb 10, 2018 at 06:48 PM »
For crossover most likely ele caps lang and leaky na. Change to polypropylene.

Yung coils pwedeng di na upgrade if you will soon replace the drivers. The new drivers will surely have different parameters and will require an entirely different crossover.

Rod Elliott has a good article on passive crossover design. Google mo na lang.

Lastly DIBS ako sa old drivers.😂
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« Reply #1551 on: Feb 11, 2018 at 08:03 AM »
for crossover caps, film and foils are best, you will know them by their bulk, bigger in size than a metalized film of the same capacity..
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« Reply #1552 on: Feb 14, 2018 at 01:08 PM »
Btw Crown BF-646 ung model, my friend told me he bought it at around P5000 mid last year. I removed 1 driver and the mdf thickness is around 1/2", I think this is sturdy enough for 2 swans HiVi drivers. I don't need to drive the speakers at very high SPL since it will be used on a medium-sized bedroom.

Already added to my cart (partsexpress) 4 HiVi drivers & 2 tweeters. My boss will be going to the US next week, I'll ask him 1st if he could carry these for me.  Medyo marami issues sa work kaya hindi ko muna cya kinausap baka tanggihan hehehe. Bukas baka maganda mood, tsaka ko na kausapin.

Anyway, plan B is to ship via LBC my shopping cart.

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« Reply #1553 on: Feb 14, 2018 at 01:18 PM »
Btw Crown BF-646 ung model, my friend told me he bought it at around P5000 mid last year. I removed 1 driver and the mdf thickness is around 1/2", I think this is sturdy enough for 2 swans HiVi drivers. I don't need to drive the speakers at very high SPL since it will be used on a medium-sized bedroom.

Already added to my cart (partsexpress) 4 HiVi drivers & 2 tweeters. My boss will be going to the US next week, I'll ask him 1st if he could carry these for me.  Medyo marami issues sa work kaya hindi ko muna cya kinausap baka tanggihan hehehe. Bukas baka maganda mood, tsaka ko na kausapin.

Anyway, plan B is to ship via LBC my shopping cart.

plan B is good too,kaya lang matagal lang sea-freight mga 1 month,kung via air naman baka mahal dahil mabigat drivers

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« Reply #1554 on: Feb 14, 2018 at 02:01 PM »
1/2" is a bit thin for a tower. Even at low power outputs, the panels could resonate. It could benefit from bracing (if none) and damping.
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« Reply #1555 on: Mar 01, 2018 at 01:54 PM »
Newbie question lang po mga gurus, is it possible to hook two bass drivers in the LF speaker output terminal of a three way dividing network? What is the best way to connect the two bass drivers, parallel or series? How will this affect the impedance of the speaker?

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« Reply #1556 on: Mar 01, 2018 at 01:58 PM »
depends on how much your power amp is capable,
if powerful enough and if your power amp is rated for 4 ohms, then parallel,
if you power amp is not rated for 4 ohms, then series..
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« Reply #1557 on: Mar 01, 2018 at 05:15 PM »
ilan ohms?
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« Reply #1558 on: Mar 05, 2018 at 04:14 PM »
depends on how much your power amp is capable,
if powerful enough and if your power amp is rated for 4 ohms, then parallel,
if you power amp is not rated for 4 ohms, then series..

ilan ohms?

I'm using a Yaqin MC10T tube amp, it has speaker options for both 4ohms and 8 ohms. I'm talking about a three way bozak N10102A three way crossover network. I already hooked two Bozak 12" B199A rated 8ohms in parallel to the LF terminal and the result made me smile. My midrange drivers are also Bozak and Klipsck horn tweeters for highs. Meron lang akong concern, i assumed that the terminal numbered 1 is the positive and the #2 terminal is the negative. So i hooked it to the amp as such. Just today, i discovered that it is the reverse, meaning #1 is the negative and #2 is the positive. Okay lang ba na reverse ang polarity? (But i'll re-check kasi mejo malabo na yung mga markings kasi more than 50 years na mga speakers.)
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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #1559 on: Mar 05, 2018 at 06:44 PM »
you can use a 1.5 volt dry cell to check phase, either both na papasok ang cone or parehong palabas, kung mabaligtad mo hihina ang bass..
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