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Re: SURPLUS SPEAKERS
« Reply #30 on: Sep 06, 2004 at 05:28 PM »
btw, there are also sansui, aurex, trio, speakers spotted in the pier.

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Re: SURPLUS SPEAKERS
« Reply #31 on: Sep 06, 2004 at 06:18 PM »


is this the one sir?






input 80W impedance 8 Ω,  size (1 10cm full range)

reviews arent that great regarding this speaker bro, theres one that mentions about it having an unnatural bass, frankly, i havent seen this model at the pier, but who knows, there are a lot of diatones thereof....

My brother has this speakers. I heard this pair. super - super. cost only 300 pesoses. any sources?
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Re: SURPLUS SPEAKERS
« Reply #32 on: Sep 07, 2004 at 10:35 AM »
aHobbit sir,

really sir? 300 pesoses only? i read soemwhere that this is a very affordable speaker but didnt expect it will be that low......

from where did he get it? havent seen this at the pier pa kasi.

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Re: SURPLUS SPEAKERS
« Reply #33 on: Sep 07, 2004 at 01:12 PM »
aHobbit sir,

really sir? 300 pesoses only? i read soemwhere that this is a very affordable speaker but didnt expect it will be that low......

from where did he get it? havent seen this at the pier pa kasi.

Kung meron pa sa pinagbilhan niya, sa palagay mo ba, mauunahan mo pa ako?  ;D

Some shops, has this pakalat kalat na lang, so benta mura before closing time - somewhere in marikina. dami naglipana murang sources dyan!

Last Christmas, we normally meet and setup sounds (baliw kasi kami eh). Pero nagkatamaran, so I just brought a small hitachi amp, and he brought the diatone pair. namputs, kaganda ng sound. Hindi ako naghanap ng bass o ng tweeter. Naramdaman ko ang haplos ng musika, ang gaan ng dating sa tenga, open area pa kami no'n at hindi sa loob ng bahay.

matindi bro.

Bayaan mo, pag nakakita ako, bibilhin ko, at sasabihin ko sa yo.  ;D - na naubos na namin!!!
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Re: SURPLUS SPEAKERS
« Reply #34 on: Sep 07, 2004 at 01:23 PM »
 ;D ;Dhehehe. ;D ;D

madaming maiingit nyan pag nagtaon sir, d lang ako. :'(

oist, bagong mecca ah, didnt know that mramio palang surplus shop sa marikina, abay malapit lang kina ST Kimpao yon ah. d nya naamoy. ::)

solution nyan bro (at para maraming mahawa, ingit na din) pasyal mo minsan sa isa sa mga session, para madinig naman namin. ;)

ano ano pa meron don sir? speakers and evrything alike? ;) >:D ;)

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Re: SURPLUS SPEAKERS
« Reply #35 on: Sep 07, 2004 at 01:53 PM »
thanks pre sa info, me nagbebenta lang sakin nitong diatone na to, kaso di ko alam kung maganda ba kaya naitanong ko lang, yan nga siguro yun kasi 80 watts at 8 ohms yung specs balak ko kasing gawing surround speakers, yung speaker ko pa lang eh 601 s3 for front, ano sa palagay mo, ok lang bang i pair to?


is this the one sir?






input 80W impedance 8 O,  size (1 10cm full range)

reviews arent that great regarding this speaker bro, theres one that mentions about it having an unnatural bass, frankly, i havent seen this model at the pier, but who knows, there are a lot of diatones thereof....

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Re: SURPLUS SPEAKERS
« Reply #36 on: Sep 07, 2004 at 05:02 PM »
i think ahobbit sir is in a better position to tell you all about this speakers performance sir, as he have mentioned hearing it himself na.

well i think this set of speakers well be a good (temporay) surround speaker seeing that its an 8 ohms model specially so kung yong price is the same as that quoted by ahobbit.

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Re: SURPLUS SPEAKERS
« Reply #37 on: Sep 07, 2004 at 07:58 PM »


Kung meron pa sa pinagbilhan niya, sa palagay mo ba, mauunahan mo pa ako?  ;D

Bayaan mo, pag nakakita ako, bibilhin ko, at sasabihin ko sa yo.  ;D - na naubos na namin!!!


Napatawa ako dun ah... hahahhahahahaha

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Re: SURPLUS SPEAKERS
« Reply #38 on: Sep 08, 2004 at 12:36 PM »
i think ahobbit sir is in a better position to tell you all about this speakers performance sir, as he have mentioned hearing it himself na.

well i think this set of speakers well be a good (temporay) surround speaker seeing that its an 8 ohms model specially so kung yong price is the same as that quoted by ahobbit.

The speaker is active/passive. Only 1 driver is really connected to the amp. The other driver has no magnet and electrical connection. It has an intriguing heavy duty network inside, not really sure what it is for.

I could say, I can use it as fronts  ;D
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Re: SURPLUS SPEAKERS
« Reply #39 on: Sep 08, 2004 at 05:22 PM »
One thing i've noticed on the speakers in Pier, most of the outer part have damaged, specifically the front grill cover. There are a lot of good speakers sariwa pa mga face ng drivers which is very important. My idea is to get a three way speakers even damaged grills or the box as long as the drivers are in good condition (to have a bargain price). Then i will  cusomized a box thru the help of Anthony using real piano finished then, I will re-attached the the logo!
Anybody tried this idea?
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Re: SURPLUS SPEAKERS
« Reply #40 on: Sep 08, 2004 at 05:49 PM »
odyopayl.

Have the idea also better but got problem with box since i don't do DIY hehehe pero you mention Anthony pwede nga possible hehehehe..

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Re: SURPLUS SPEAKERS
« Reply #41 on: Sep 08, 2004 at 10:18 PM »
guys, i also bought a pair of diatone ds-201 speakers from the pier... its a 3-way large bookshelf na hindi ported and mirror image ang design(unit is specified for either left or right channel)... very good condition pa... the highs and mids are better than my ms902s...what this pair lacks is bass...kelangan supplement mo ng sub...good sound for little moolah :D
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Re: SURPLUS SPEAKERS
« Reply #42 on: Sep 09, 2004 at 08:50 AM »
guys, i also bought a pair of diatone ds-201 speakers from the pier... its a 3-way large bookshelf na hindi ported and mirror image ang design(unit is specified for either left or right channel)... very good condition pa... the highs and mids are better than my ms902s...what this pair lacks is bass...kelangan supplement mo ng sub...good sound for little moolah :D

san pa kaya nakakabili nito?  ;D
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Re: SURPLUS SPEAKERS
« Reply #43 on: Sep 09, 2004 at 10:36 AM »
Quote from: ahobbit
The speaker is active/passive. Only 1 driver is really connected to the amp. The other driver has no magnet and electrical connection. It has an intriguing heavy duty network inside, not really sure what it is for.

I could say, I can use it as fronts

is this so sir, then this speaker can be used also for PC or as an independent speaker for your portable system. how much sir is the power requirement?

but do the other driver without the connections work? how?

this pair of speaker is becoming quite intriguing. ???
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Re: SURPLUS SPEAKERS
« Reply #44 on: Sep 09, 2004 at 10:49 AM »
odyopayl,

i am also considering that option. in fact  i am just taking my time enjoying the present sound and look (mine doesnt look that wasted after all) of the technics (saving up also for it).

a fellow dvd member and i were listening to the technics 2 nights ago.... and after awhile we noticed that the box reverbirates, causing unnatural sounds, sudible to the ears..... were planning to use fiber fills to correct the same but later on am going to have the enclosure changed to a bigger one to give the drivers better space to breath on into, and maybe correct the bass weakness of its present design.

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Re: SURPLUS SPEAKERS
« Reply #45 on: Sep 09, 2004 at 10:57 AM »
also heard sir obets diatone, out of the box, and right off the pier. very good sound (knowing that it still needs breaking in) good looking as well.

like the tweeter switch, and the fact that it has a paper cone driver. quite intresting also, is its mirror imaging feature.

sir cire2004,

sa pier sir maraming diatone.... just be patient and dont jump into the wagon right away...... listen listen listen and listen more. thats the secret, remember   when it comes to speakers, warranty periods do not apply.

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Re: SURPLUS SPEAKERS
« Reply #46 on: Sep 09, 2004 at 11:05 AM »
also heard sir obets diatone, out of the box, and right off the pier. very good sound (knowing that it still needs breaking in) good looking as well.

like the tweeter switch, and the fact that it has a paper cone driver. quite intresting also, is its mirror imaging feature.

sir cire2004,

sa pier sir maraming diatone.... just be patient and dont jump into the wagon right away...... listen listen listen and listen more. thats the secret, remember   when it comes to speakers, warranty periods do not apply.

Sir wanderlust, thanks for the tip i'll probably go there tommorow para mag scout sana payagan ako mag leave tom from work..hehhehe..Thanks ulit dre  ;D
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Re: SURPLUS SPEAKERS
« Reply #47 on: Sep 09, 2004 at 11:13 AM »
ur welcome sir, anything to help out a fellow member.

here s pic of the diatone ds-201 :



and another:



 >:D >:D >:D

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Re: SURPLUS SPEAKERS
« Reply #48 on: Sep 09, 2004 at 11:16 AM »
sir wanderlust yan ba yung actual pic ng nabili mo sa pier? makinis pa talaga ah  ::)
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Re: SURPLUS SPEAKERS
« Reply #49 on: Sep 09, 2004 at 11:24 AM »
downloaded lang yang dre from the internet, and its sir narayans speaker not mine.

but i do recall na makinis pa nga tlga yong unit na nabili ni sir obet, including the grill.

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Re: SURPLUS SPEAKERS
« Reply #50 on: Sep 09, 2004 at 11:31 AM »
ok..thanks ulit  :D
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Re: SURPLUS SPEAKERS
« Reply #51 on: Sep 09, 2004 at 01:17 PM »


is this so sir, then this speaker can be used also for PC or as an independent speaker for your portable system. how much sir is the power requirement?

but do the other driver without the connections work? how?

this pair of speaker is becoming quite intriguing. ???

Yes, for portable system. But dont dare, it might become your main music system!  ;D

I am not sure about the rating - did not look at it.

The other driver is basically a replacement for reflex port to give bass control.
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Re: SURPLUS SPEAKERS
« Reply #52 on: Sep 09, 2004 at 02:44 PM »
sana me yamaha na surplus..yung may berrylium na tweeter...hehe

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Re: SURPLUS SPEAKERS
« Reply #53 on: Sep 09, 2004 at 07:34 PM »
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sana me yamaha na surplus..yung may berrylium na tweeter...hehe

oo nga sir, unahan tayo lahat dun! ;D ;D

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Re: SURPLUS SPEAKERS
« Reply #54 on: Sep 10, 2004 at 09:09 AM »
guys,

madali lang makahanap nyan daming yamaha speaker dun sa pier  ;D

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Re: SURPLUS SPEAKERS
« Reply #55 on: Sep 10, 2004 at 09:26 AM »
maraming yamaha pero me NS-1000m ba??? >:D

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Re: SURPLUS SPEAKERS
« Reply #56 on: Sep 10, 2004 at 11:59 AM »
NS-1000 then pair it with a yamaha MX1....... hay.............

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Re: SURPLUS SPEAKERS
« Reply #57 on: Sep 10, 2004 at 12:11 PM »
mayron ba speakers sa pier using alnico magnet?

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Re: SURPLUS SPEAKERS
« Reply #58 on: Sep 10, 2004 at 12:15 PM »
btw heres a pic of that yammy speaker:

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and a review:

Why, if humankind has put vehicles on Mars and mastered open-heart surgery, can it not design an accurate loudspeaker? Even at the best of times, modern 'speakers are compromised devices, and getting one to work properly from 20Hz to 20kHz is still an uncommon occurrence.
 
Given that moving-coil drivers have all sorts of colorations to sully them, and that electrostatics only work effectively over a limited frequency range, engineers have to employ clever tricks to get the best from these units. Back in the early Seventies, Yamaha decided the answer was Beryllium domes, and the NS1000 was born.
 
Using this expensive metal, Yamaha came up with treble and midrange drivers that produced extremely low levels of distortion, excellent dispersion and phase coherence. In fact, mated together by a complex crossover network, they behaved much as an electrostatic panel but with more extended highs and better power handling. Matched with a fast, light, rigid paper-coned 300mm bass unit, the combination was dynamite.
 
The first NS1000s went on sale in 1975, built like the proverbial brick powder room and with HF and midrange trim pots built into the front baffles. At over £400, their price reflected their advanced engineering and superb 32kg-per-box build. They were quite unlike anything people had ever heard ­ best described as sounding like a Quad ESL with a ribbon super-tweeter and a sub-woofer to handle the lows!

In Japan and the States they were rapturously received, with recording studios and broadcast companies throwing their money at Yamaha. Quite simply, there was no other 'speaker to touch the NS1000's combination of transparency, speed and power handling. But over here, reactions were mixed. Reviewers used to soft, bland Bextrene-coned BBC monitors found them forward and fatiguing and prone to harshness and fizz.

The problem was that the Yamahas were utterly unforgiving of the amps that drove them. With high sensitivity and a relatively easy load, most Japanese audiophiles were using them with muscular valve amps that had a warm, smooth sound. In Britain the fashion was for big, punchy transistor power amps such as Naim's NAP250, which, without soft Bextrene or polypropylene cones to hide behind, could sound ­ yes, that's right ­ forward, fatiguing and fizzy!
 
In 1977 the NS1000s gained slightly smaller, more rigid cabinets, black paint and an 'M' suffix. Re-reviewed by the UK press, they were decried as harsh - with the exception of Practical Hi-Fi, whose reviewer used them with the then seriously unfashionable Quad II and gave them a big thumbs up. Funny, that.
 
In truth, the NS1000Ms are one of the most transparent 'speakers ever made, with dazzlingly fast transients, superb sound staging and great clarity and detail. But they also have a JBL-like capacity to inject life, drama and scale into everything they touch ­ a formidable combination of virtues!

Partner them with valves or Class A tranny power amps, turn the midrange trim pot down to ­3dB (they do have a slight mid-forward balance, but this assuages it), site them on sturdy, low stands (Atacama BD200s are perfect) and you'll struggle to find a 'speaker that's as much fun.
 
Although Yamaha discontinued the NS1000M in the UK in 1995, in Japan it lives on as the NS1000X. With the M's fabled mid and treble units plus an improved carbon-fibre woofer, it's a fantastic loudspeaker. But top dog is the anniversary edition NS10000, big enough to make the '1000 look like a Wharfedale Diamond!
 
Because the last NS1000Ms cost over £1500, these are not cheap boxes second-hand - pay between £400 and £800 depending on age and condition. Look for 'one careful owner' and avoid examples that sound fizzy ­ it's a sign of a distressed Beryllium driver just about to die. Replacements are readily available from Yamaha Electronics (tel: 01923 233166) but expensive. Happy headbanging!

a pic of its cross-over:

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with a cross over like this and a the Beryllium domes, what else could you ask for!!!! >:D

wish i could get by hands on this babies...... ;D

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Re: SURPLUS SPEAKERS
« Reply #59 on: Sep 10, 2004 at 12:21 PM »
sir julps.... what brand of speaker manufacturer carry this magnet?