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Difference between DTS and DD?
« on: May 30, 2003 at 09:33 AM »
I wonder why DTS capability  big deal when purchasing a dvd.
I have T2 UE but cannot tell the difference between DTS and DD.
What other dvd/s that evidently show/s the difference?
« Last Edit: May 30, 2003 at 11:49 AM by Jayem Ares »

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Re:Difference between DTS and DD
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2003 at 10:04 AM »
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Re:Difference between DTS and DD?
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2003 at 11:52 AM »
Eagles - Hell Freezes Over  and Saving Private Ryan... :)

Also, if you haven't already done so, read through this thread.

« Last Edit: Apr 24, 2004 at 12:21 PM by benny »

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Re:Difference between DTS and DD?
« Reply #3 on: Jun 04, 2003 at 04:29 PM »
err.. T2 UE doesn't have a dts track.. =)

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Re:Difference between DTS and DD?
« Reply #4 on: Jun 04, 2003 at 04:59 PM »
err.. T2 UE doesn't have a dts track.. =)


hmmm.... I believe T2 UE has DTS track.  :)

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Re:Difference between DTS and DD?
« Reply #5 on: Jun 04, 2003 at 05:40 PM »
hmmm.... I believe T2 UE has DTS track.  :)

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Re:Difference between DTS and DD?
« Reply #6 on: Jun 05, 2003 at 04:02 PM »
Oh well then.. Yeah i was referring to Extreme Edition, then. Yung bagong version that has a 2nd dvd that has 1080i resolution.


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Re:Difference between DTS and DD?
« Reply #7 on: Jun 05, 2003 at 04:47 PM »
Parang meron ng ganitong topic dito dati... and yes, DTS is almost always better than DD and you really don't need to have a very revealing system to notice it. Ang unang reaction usually eh mas malakas daw ang DTS compared to DD. Also, be careful of using fake DTS dvds as your reference as it will not show you how good dts coding is. Reference DTS dvd? Try U-571 and hear for yourself the glory of DTS! Night and day...

In fairness, I admire StarWars epII's surround coding which is the best DD track I've heard so far! The audience is listening...

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Re:Difference between DTS and DD?
« Reply #8 on: Jun 05, 2003 at 06:59 PM »
If you have watched Saving Private Ryan in DTS,  you'll know why it's a big deal in purchasing a DVD.

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Re:Difference between DTS and DD?
« Reply #9 on: Jun 05, 2003 at 11:16 PM »
Oh well then.. Yeah i was referring to Extreme Edition, then. Yung bagong version that has a 2nd dvd that has 1080i resolution.


That's some DVD how'd they manage to jack up the resolution to 1080i?

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Re:Difference between DTS and DD?
« Reply #10 on: Jun 07, 2003 at 08:03 PM »
noticed ko mas higher ang audio rate ng DTS compared to DD in terms of Kbps
dts has 760+
while dd has 400+

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Re:Difference between DTS and DD?
« Reply #11 on: Jul 30, 2003 at 02:04 PM »
noticed ko mas higher ang audio rate ng DTS compared to DD in terms of Kbps
dts has 760+
while dd has 400+

This is true..

DD has a higher compression rate compared to DTS. When using DTS, much larger data passes through the wires, compared to DD. That's why DTS is more natural sounding because of its low compression rate, it is easier to decode. Imagine decompressing a winzip file with max compression than a normal compression as DD is to Max compression and DTS is to normal compression. But the problem is, DTS takes too much data space, kaya mas marami pa din DD audio tracks na DVD.
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Re:Difference between DTS and DD?
« Reply #12 on: Jul 30, 2003 at 02:07 PM »
be careful of using fake DTS dvds as your reference as it will not show you how good dts coding is.


Fake DTS DVD's meron ba nito? ano titles?

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Re:Difference between DTS and DD?
« Reply #13 on: Jul 31, 2003 at 03:38 AM »
di ba yun Godfather na pirata?  :D

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Re:Difference between DTS and DD?
« Reply #14 on: Aug 03, 2003 at 09:17 PM »
If you have watched Saving Private Ryan in DTS,  you'll know why it's a big deal in purchasing a DVD.

I agree! My friend bought a receiver with DTS and this was the movie we used to test. May mga sounds talaga na di mo maririning sa DD na version ... I need to get myself a DTS receiver. Mga magkano kaya yan dito sa pinas?

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Re:Difference between DTS and DD?
« Reply #15 on: Aug 04, 2003 at 02:20 AM »
depende sa brand yan na bibilin mo. siguro minimum 16k . . .

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Re:Difference between DTS and DD?
« Reply #16 on: Aug 06, 2003 at 03:15 PM »
You can get a decent reciever with DD and DTS decoder at Ambassador Appliances in Makati or in Greenhills. They are selling DENON 1603 for only P14,800. Sobrang sulit na to...this is a great reciever!  8)

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Re:Difference between DTS and DD?
« Reply #17 on: Aug 09, 2003 at 12:12 AM »
Jett,
May I also suggest that if you're planning on buying a DTS capable reciver, go and buy a DTS-ES, DD-EX, DPL2 -ready unit na para one time investment na rin dba?  8)

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Re:Difference between DTS and DD?
« Reply #18 on: Aug 11, 2003 at 05:40 AM »

In fairness, I admire StarWars epII's surround coding which is the best DD track I've heard so far! The audience is listening...

For me, the best DD track I've ever heard is Black Hawk Down, which edged out Episode 1.   ;)

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Re:Difference between DTS and DD?
« Reply #19 on: Aug 11, 2003 at 06:14 PM »
For me, the best DD track I've ever heard is Black Hawk Down, which edged out Episode 1.   ;)

which version? the original release or the new special ed?

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Re:Difference between DTS and DD?
« Reply #20 on: Aug 14, 2003 at 12:23 PM »
For me, the best DD track I've ever heard is Black Hawk Down, which edged out Episode 1.   ;)

You guys should try We Were Soldiers' DD-EX track. It will blow you away!!!  8)

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Re:Difference between DTS and DD?
« Reply #21 on: Aug 14, 2003 at 05:11 PM »
You guys should try We Were Soldiers' DD-EX track. It will blow you away!!!  8)

agree ako dyan!..ganda ng reproduction ng sounds..especially dun sa battle scenes.. :D


try din das boot(director's cut) superbit or the regular release lang..claustrophobic ung sounds..lalo na pag mdyo high ung volume.. ;D parang nsa sub ka tlaga..


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Re:Difference between DTS and DD?
« Reply #22 on: Aug 20, 2003 at 10:22 AM »
hello to all!
i am new to the board, and i would like to get to know everyone.
i personally favor DTS soundtracks on dvd movies, but it is nice to have a choice (DD or DTS) both are great to listen to.

in the theater cinema it is a different story,

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Re:Difference between DTS and DD?
« Reply #23 on: Sep 16, 2003 at 10:19 AM »
eh bakit ganun? since everybody agrees that DTS discs have a much superior audio quality than DD, why do manufacturers still come out with DD? in terms of price, i've noticed na di naman sila nagkakalayo.

anybody please?

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Re:Difference between DTS and DD?
« Reply #24 on: Sep 16, 2003 at 11:57 AM »
[1.32] What's the deal with DTS and DVD?

in a nutshell, according to the official dvd specs, DTS is an optional format, while either Dolby Digital or PCM is required.

how this got to be was the result of the lobbying of the Dolby Digital minions with the authors of the DVD specs.

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Re:Difference between DTS and DD?
« Reply #25 on: Sep 16, 2003 at 12:08 PM »
"DTS is superior to DD"

Generally true. Llike all generalizations, not entirely true.
There are some DD tracks that are better than their DTS counterparts. Haven't documented them, but I've found several in my collection. Other collectors have similar findings. Hope they can help identify the DVDs.

On another note, the earlier DTS-only versions of some DVDs are reportedly superior to those with mixed (DTS and DD) soundtracks. Among the DTS-only ones were Dances with Wolves, Out of Sight, Saving Private Ryan. Those discs used the DTS capabilities better than those that had to devote more space to mixed tracks. Maybe someone can confirm this statement.
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Re:Difference between DTS and DD?
« Reply #26 on: Sep 16, 2003 at 12:38 PM »
eh bakit ganun? since everybody agrees that DTS discs have a much superior audio quality than DD, why do manufacturers still come out with DD? in terms of price, i've noticed na di naman sila nagkakalayo.

anybody please?

DTS soundtrack is less compressed compared to DD sountrack, hence, DTS DVD's have larger data which eats up space on the DVD. Maybe that's one of the reasons why not all DVD's have DTS tracks,  or kung meron, kadalasan two disc set. One example is Columbia's Superbit Releases. They have to take away most of the special features to give way to DTS track. Superbit Deluxe DVD's are 2disc sets, such as Charlie's Angels and Snatch, keeping its special features intact.  ;D

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Dolby Surround vs. DTS Surround
« Reply #27 on: Sep 22, 2003 at 04:57 PM »
Guys,

Do you know what are the differences of Dolby Surround vs. DTS Surround?

Which one is better? What should I look for a DVD player.

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Re:Difference between DTS and DD?
« Reply #28 on: Nov 21, 2003 at 08:54 AM »
Superbit DVDs remove the special features not because it is DTS.  They remove the special features because they actually put more data into the "video".  Meaning you should be watching a clearer video but the DTS audio stays the same.

I also thought it is because of the DTS track but when you read the insert of Superbit DVDs it explains there that it is actually the "video" that was unhanced and not the DTS track.   :D

I hope this helps.   :D


DTS soundtrack is less compressed compared to DD sountrack, hence, DTS DVD's have larger data which eats up space on the DVD. Maybe that's one of the reasons why not all DVD's have DTS tracks,  or kung meron, kadalasan two disc set. One example is Columbia's Superbit Releases. They have to take away most of the special features to give way to DTS track. Superbit Deluxe DVD's are 2disc sets, such as Charlie's Angels and Snatch, keeping its special features intact.  ;D

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Re:Dolby Surround vs. DTS Surround
« Reply #29 on: Nov 21, 2003 at 04:12 PM »
Guys,

Do you know what are the differences of Dolby Surround vs. DTS Surround?

Which one is better? What should I look for a DVD player.

In theory, DTS uses lesser storage compression than DD and should result in more detailed sound.  In practice, DTS tracks almost always come out louder, thereby revealing more details for the same volume level.  There are some movies whose DTS tracks seems to give better definition.  But a disc without DTS doesn't depart from the enjoyment you can  have with DD. I would say 85% of commerical DVDs are on DD.

Depending on your priorites, there are many things to look for in choosing a DVD player.  A simple set-up may require you to get a DVD player with all the features including a DTS encoding ability.  Most mass market DVD players have that.  At the other extreme, some would look for just plain DVD transport only player, relegating the decoding of DD and DTS or some other format from an external processor.   But DD/DTS is just a one of those features.