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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #690 on: Dec 08, 2005 at 08:58 AM »
bro, paki explain naman kung ano yunSACD and DVD-A? cinema DSP thank you

SACD (Super Audio CD) - An encoding format which has a far more superior reproduction than ordinary cds using a two speaker (channel) system.

DVD-Audio - An audio encoding format using a multi-channel system.

CinemaDSP - Yamaha's proprietary multi-channel processing technology. Can be used for 2-channel or other multi-channel sources or even mono-channels.

DSP - Digital Signal Processing. Not just a method for audio but many other applicatons. But for our interest, it's a method of processing signals for simulating different environments in different listening situations.  ;)
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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #691 on: Dec 08, 2005 at 01:02 PM »
Been testing my 'new' setup mostly in music pa lang.  Had the time to test how it will handle movies... and I came up with this Qs:
  • May napapansin akong parang distortion dun sa movie while playing the DVD.  Sa tingin ko ay because of the interference of either the speaker or the AVR.  How can I eliminate that?
  • While playing DVD in AC-3 mode, pag pinapaltan ko volume ng AVR ko.. I hear this popping (or clicking) sound.  Is this normal?  Wala kasi pag DVD mode ako eh.

My setup: Sakura AVR-387a, Euros 8 towers, <no center speaker>, speakers from Sony mini-compo as rears, DTX 4.12 subwoofer, Kebao DVD player, generic speaker wires, genereic RCA inter-connects


Thanks in advance!!!



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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #692 on: Dec 14, 2005 at 05:26 PM »
sir may optical out ba ang sakura av387? thanks.

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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #693 on: Dec 14, 2005 at 10:25 PM »
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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #694 on: Dec 15, 2005 at 11:46 AM »
Question naman sa mga may china-made dvd + sakura 387a + active sub:

Line-level ba ang gamit niyong connection sa sub o speaker level?

Kung line level, One possible way to connect would be:
   dvd sub rca out --> sakura sub rca in
   AND sakura sub rca out --> active sub rca in
I'm sure this will work with DTS and DD movies. Will this also work for ordinary audio cd's?

Kung speaker level naman, saan naka-connect?

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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #695 on: Dec 15, 2005 at 01:20 PM »
Hi guys. simple lang HT setup ko DVDplayer + Nextbase 5.1 HM050 speakers. Satisfied naman ako sa sounds
pag nagplay ng mga DVD movies.  Pero nung gusto sana naming mag videoke (plug the mic at the DVDplayer mic input, walang kasing ibang paglalagyan) sabog yung kinalabasan ng sounds.  Balak ko sana bumili ng
Sakura 387A para dun iplug yung mic at the same time meron din ako receiver.  So ok kaya itong setup na ito
DVDplayer + Sakura 387A receiver + Nextbase 5.1 HM050 speakers. Compatible ba ito?  tnx

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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #696 on: Dec 15, 2005 at 01:29 PM »
Question naman sa mga may china-made dvd + sakura 387a + active sub:

Line-level ba ang gamit niyong connection sa sub o speaker level?

Kung line level, One possible way to connect would be:
   dvd sub rca out --> sakura sub rca in
   AND sakura sub rca out --> active sub rca in
I'm sure this will work with DTS and DD movies. Will this also work for ordinary audio cd's?

If the sakura model has bass management circuit, it can route the bass to the sub even for CDs.

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Kung speaker level naman, saan naka-connect?


The powered sub typically has stereo speaker terminals labeled "speaker IN" for speaker level connection.  Use this to connect to the main front stereo speaker OUT of  your receiver or amp.

The same powered sub also has stereo speaker terminals labeled "satellite speaker OUT"  so you can connect your main front speakers to them.

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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #697 on: Dec 15, 2005 at 01:37 PM »
Hi guys. simple lang HT setup ko DVDplayer + Nextbase 5.1 HM050 speakers. Satisfied naman ako sa sounds
pag nagplay ng mga DVD movies.  Pero nung gusto sana naming mag videoke (plug the mic at the DVDplayer mic input, walang kasing ibang paglalagyan) sabog yung kinalabasan ng sounds.  Balak ko sana bumili ng
Sakura 387A para dun iplug yung mic at the same time meron din ako receiver.  So ok kaya itong setup na ito
DVDplayer + Sakura 387A receiver + Nextbase 5.1 HM050 speakers. Compatible ba ito?  tnx

The 5.1 speakers you have are most likely powered (the bass module has built-in amp).  If the sakura model has sub-out, you can connect this to the Nextbase bass module.  Then you can connect the other Nextbase satellite speakers to the Sakura's main speaker out.  Just don't bring the volume too high, the nextbase speakers may not be able to handle the current from your Sakura.  Kung "sabog" ang sound, that's indicative hindi kaya nung speakers, more so if you use a more powerful amp like in a Sakura.  You may have to upgrade your speakers as well.

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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #698 on: Dec 16, 2005 at 05:58 AM »
If the sakura model has bass management circuit, it can route the bass to the sub even for CDs.

The powered sub typically has stereo speaker terminals labeled "speaker IN" for speaker level connection.  Use this to connect to the main front stereo speaker OUT of  your receiver or amp.

The same powered sub also has stereo speaker terminals labeled "satellite speaker OUT"  so you can connect your main front speakers to them.

Maraming salamat sir AVPhile1.

Can anyone verify na merong ganitong "bass management circuit" ang sakura av387a? Thanks.

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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #699 on: Dec 28, 2005 at 03:21 PM »
Feels somewhat weird to be the one to answer my queries, but I'd like to share my recent experience with the Sakura AV-387a...
so here goes:

Been testing my 'new' setup mostly in music pa lang.  Had the time to test how it will handle movies... and I came up with this Qs:
  • May napapansin akong parang distortion dun sa movie while playing the DVD.  Sa tingin ko ay because of the interference of either the speaker or the AVR.  How can I eliminate that?
Na-solve yung distortion nung tinulungan ako ng bro-in-law ng wifey ko (ano sa Tagalog tawag dun?) na technician.  We solved it by placing the left speaker farther or away from the TV.  He also helped me in testing about the popping sound problem below.  Through the process of elimintaion, we concluded na may problema yung Sakura ko kapag naka-AC3 mode.

He also suggested that I used my old Sony FH speakers as my center.  So we 'seriesed' it to become my Center, pending my purchase of a new one.

  • While playing DVD in AC-3 mode, pag pinapaltan ko volume ng AVR ko.. I hear this popping (or clicking) sound.  Is this normal?  Wala kasi pag DVD mode ako eh.

My setup: Sakura AVR-387a, Euros 8 towers, <no center speaker>, speakers from Sony mini-compo as rears, DTX 4.12 subwoofer, Kebao DVD player, generic speaker wires, genereic RCA inter-connects


Thanks in advance!!!



So I texted Mike of Moses Aaron about it.  To make a long story short, he immediately replaced my unit with a new one last Friday (December 23).  The AC-3 mode is working now.

Oh btw, sa ganda ng effect ng ginawa naming Center... I'm currently searching for a good Center for my system.  Advise and recommendations will be appreciated!

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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #700 on: Dec 29, 2005 at 02:25 PM »
Feels somewhat weird to be the one to answer my queries, but I'd like to share my recent experience with the Sakura AV-387a...
so here goes:

Na-solve yung distortion nung tinulungan ako ng bro-in-law ng wifey ko (ano sa Tagalog tawag dun?) na technician.  We solved it by placing the left speaker farther or away from the TV.  He also helped me in testing about the popping sound problem below.  Through the process of elimintaion, we concluded na may problema yung Sakura ko kapag naka-AC3 mode.

He also suggested that I used my old Sony FH speakers as my center.  So we 'seriesed' it to become my Center, pending my purchase of a new one.


So I texted Mike of Moses Aaron about it.  To make a long story short, he immediately replaced my unit with a new one last Friday (December 23).  The AC-3 mode is working now.

Oh btw, sa ganda ng effect ng ginawa naming Center... I'm currently searching for a good Center for my system.  Advise and recommendations will be appreciated!


Best to match it with your other speakers.
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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #701 on: Dec 29, 2005 at 10:39 PM »
magkano na ang sakura av387a ngayon sa raon and saan maganda bumili yung maganda aftersales service? btw ano ba mga features nitong av387a and may website ba ang sakura? :)

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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #702 on: Dec 30, 2005 at 12:40 PM »
magkano na ang sakura av387a ngayon sa raon and saan maganda bumili yung maganda aftersales service? btw ano ba mga features nitong av387a and may website ba ang sakura? :)

Price in Moses Aaron when I bought these last November:
Sakura AV387a = PhP 3700 less 5% = PhP 3515

Maganda after-sales service dito, see my previous posts for my recent experience with them...

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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #703 on: Feb 28, 2006 at 03:31 PM »
mga bro ask ko lng saan ba banda sa raon un MOSES AARON.di ko kc kabisado un raon eh.tnx

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« Reply #704 on: Mar 01, 2006 at 08:42 AM »
Moses Aaron is beside Metrobank Raon. Along Gonzalo Puyat. Here's the number: 7354390. Look for Mike, he's gonna treat you nice.  ;D
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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #705 on: Mar 01, 2006 at 09:44 AM »
kumusta na mga sakura nu?!  ;D

balak ko ulit bumili ng sakura for my pc! hehe
gusto ko set-up-an for gaming!

ano kaya maganda speakers na i-pair?
may maliliit ba ng daiichi? pang-satellite speakers?

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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #706 on: Apr 18, 2006 at 11:21 AM »
Maganda pala tumunog ang Sakura amp kung maayos audio source.

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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #707 on: May 16, 2006 at 11:49 AM »
Maganda pala tumunog ang Sakura amp kung maayos audio source.

Of course maganda ang tunog kapag maganda ang source.  Eh kahit top of the line ang amp at speakers mo kung ang program material mo ay pangit :), pangit din ang lalabas.  Kung si Ngongo ba ang kumanta sa program material mo ay magiging si Diomedes Maturan paglabas sa speakers mo, siyempre hindi.  Ganoon lang iyon kapatid...LINEARITY ika nga.   ;D
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« Reply #708 on: May 16, 2006 at 12:04 PM »
Though I already have my Marantz amp, I also bought a Sakura amp in Raon (Php4K) last 2004 for my drinking session (*lol*).  Mahirap kase magbaklas ng sistema kapag naka-setup na.  I found this cheap Sakura amp worth the bucks and even compared it with my neighbor's Konzert amp.  Mas maganda ang tunog ng Sakura at puwedeng pang-jamming.

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Sakura AV 389                         - Php4,000
Crown SS 401 Sat Speakers   -        1,000
Polk Audio PSW10 Subwoofer -      14,000
Jamo Cables                            -        1,015
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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #709 on: May 17, 2006 at 09:53 AM »
mga bro!

ano ba ang best na sakura amp for videoke and ano maganda match na speaker for the amp?
san din ba maganda bilihan nyan sa raon?

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« Reply #710 on: May 17, 2006 at 11:49 PM »
mga bro!

ano ba ang best na sakura amp for videoke and ano maganda match na speaker for the amp?
san din ba maganda bilihan nyan sa raon?

Halos lahat naman na gawa ng sakura ay may karaoke function at standard dito ay 80W (5.1) configuration.  Suggest ko na para mas enjoyable ang pag-awit mo kapatid ay gamitan mo din ng magandang microphone, huwag iyong tig-300 sa mga tiyangge na Gawa Lunes at Sira Martes, medyo mag-invest ka around P1000 para sa isang budget mic.

Maraming mga tindahan sa Raon ang nagbebenta ng Sakura amp/receiver.  Diskartehan mo na lang kung saan ka mas makakabili ng mura, mag-canvass ka sa magkabilang dulo ng Raon hanggang doon sa may Quezon Blvd, ganoon din sa may Evangelista iyong papunta sa Quiapo Church marami din doon, baka makatipid ka kahit hanggang P500.  Sa speaker naman ay Dai-Chi, Crown or Tamashi sa mga gawang Philippines at China.  Kung can afford ka naman @ less than 10K, Wharfedale or Polk Audio maganda na.
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Re: Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #711 on: May 18, 2006 at 07:56 AM »
mga bro!

ano ba ang best na sakura amp for videoke and ano maganda match na speaker for the amp?
san din ba maganda bilihan nyan sa raon?

Bro you may also audition magnum videoke amp w/ matching magnum speakers. Efficient din ang mga ito kung pang-videoke lang din. Available sa mga Robinson Appliance Center.

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« Reply #712 on: Aug 20, 2006 at 09:05 AM »
Good day!

Does anyone here tried or experienced using this Sakura AV-735 for videoke? Is it that good for singing?

A salesman I knew very well suggested this model above the Konzert 502a and Sakura AV5023. He said
this AV735 is more powerful and has mix mixing and dsp processing features. I also noticed they look better (more professional looking) than the other 2 models. Its a little more expensive at 5t but with the additional features, I think its cheaper than getting a separate processor. 

Hattori_hanzo,
Any feedbacks?


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Re: Sakura AV753 for Videoke
« Reply #713 on: Aug 20, 2006 at 01:57 PM »
Good day!

Does anyone here tried or experienced using this Sakura AV-735 for videoke? Is it that good for singing?

A salesman I knew very well suggested this model above the Konzert 502a and Sakura AV5023. He said
this AV735 is more powerful and has mix mixing and dsp processing features. I also noticed they look better (more professional looking) than the other 2 models. Its a little more expensive at 5t but with the additional features, I think its cheaper than getting a separate processor. 

Hattori_hanzo,
Any feedbacks?


thanks.


dude iba pa rin yung may separate DSP processor, kaysa integrated sa amp. kasi pag nasira yung power amp hindi dale yung processor + plus may option kapa na multiple power at channels... hehehe!!!
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Re: Sakura AV753 for Videoke
« Reply #714 on: Aug 21, 2006 at 08:39 AM »
bro, if you're in a tight budget pwede na rin ito. bili ka na lang later pag may budget ka na para sa processor mo...

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Re: Sakura AV753 for Videoke
« Reply #715 on: Aug 21, 2006 at 09:46 AM »
bro, if you're in a tight budget pwede na rin ito. bili ka na lang later pag may budget ka na para sa processor mo...

 8)  ;)

dude as an advise, kung talagang hanap mo eh magndang videoke gears yung tipong studio like quality ang vocals, at kung nasa tight budget ka pa, ipon ka nlang muna, kasi baka masayang lang ang pera mo. pero if your in need of it immediately pwede na pag tyagaan itong sakura amp na to, pero just a precaution dont expect too much of its performance, coz youll have ear fatigue in listening to this amp in time. like 2 of my china generic amp ngayon (konzert 502a and lexus) retired na sila, minsan ko lang gamitin kapag meron lang kaming swimming outing dinadala ko as outdoor sounds.

pag meron ka kasing high quality na videoke gears (eg. shure SM58, yamaha DSP or Digitech effects processor's, multi channel mic mixer etc etc) mag eenjoy ka everytime you want to use your videoke machine kahit walang bisita gusto mo lang pakinggan ang boses mo dahil iba talga, na eenganyo pa ang iba na bumisita sayo dahil sa ganda ng boses nila pag kumakanta sa inyo, pero kung meron ka lang simpleng videoke yung tipong tunog lang ng nabibili sa raon eh parang usual na diba? so its up to you dude, friendly advise lang naman yun sa akin eh, pero kung gusto mo talgang budget na videoke na may quality pde kita i guide gastos ka lang ng mga 10k, PM mo ako kung interesado ka... good luck!
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Re: Sakura AV753 for Videoke
« Reply #716 on: Aug 22, 2006 at 05:56 PM »
There's a studio-grade Behringer mic mixer  at the Behringer shop at Park Square for 5.2T.  There are four Mic inputs via balanced XLR that are really superb with around 60 DSP effects at 24-bit/96khz resolution.  This to me seems the most cost-effective mixer with studio-grade quality, short of getting those dBx, Alessi or Peavey brands of separate mixer and processors.  (while the mixer can accpet PL-type microphone jacks, you should invest in studio grade mics with XLR connectors.)    Just hook up your DVD player's stereo outs to one of the stereo input of the mixer and you can sing away. (with the DVD video connected to your TV)   Ofcourse you still need a professional quality power amp and speaker.  Don't use your HT speakers unless each has at least 100watts average power handling.   If a mic accidentally drops or the singer  shouts over the mic  at karaoke bar volumes, you could be saying goodbye to your home speakers.  For amps and speakers, I would suggest you vist the pier if you're really on a tight budget and get one of those surplus amps and Pioneer or Technics 3-way speakers with 12"woofers.  With another 10T, you should be on your way.  (plus another 3T for studio quality Mic  ;D)


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Re: Sakura AV753 for Videoke
« Reply #717 on: Aug 22, 2006 at 06:50 PM »
There's a studio-grade Behringer mic mixer  at the Behringer shop at Park Square for 5.2T.  There are four Mic inputs via balanced XLR that are really superb with around 60 DSP effects at 24-bit/96khz resolution.  This to me seems the most cost-effective mixer with studio-grade quality, short of getting those dBx, Alessi or Peavey brands of separate mixer and processors.  (while the mixer can accpet PL-type microphone jacks, you should invest in studio grade mics with XLR connectors.)    Just hook up your DVD player's stereo outs to one of the stereo input of the mixer and you can sing away. (with the DVD video connected to your TV)   Ofcourse you still need a professional quality power amp and speaker.  Don't use your HT speakers unless each has at least 100watts average power handling.   If a mic accidentally drops or the singer  shouts over the mic  at karaoke bar volumes, you could be saying goodbye to your home speakers.  For amps and speakers, I would suggest you vist the pier if you're really on a tight budget and get one of those surplus amps and Pioneer or Technics 3-way speakers with 12"woofers.  With another 10T, you should be on your way.  (plus another 3T for studio quality Mic  ;D)



korek ka dyan master av_phile!!!, its better to invest on good quality pro gears. mga 10k talga panalo na. yun nga lang kung HT speakers ang gamit medyo ingat lang talga medyo mahirap isabak yun compared dun sa mga hi-resistance na professional speakers. pero kung maingat naman yung owner pede naman yung HT speakers wag lang i-abuse like overloud volumes, mic feedbacks, hums, pops and microphone drops. hehehe! 
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Re: Sakura AV753 for Videoke
« Reply #718 on: Aug 23, 2006 at 10:05 AM »
There's a studio-grade Behringer mic mixer  at the Behringer shop at Park Square for 5.2T.  There are four Mic inputs via balanced XLR that are really superb with around 60 DSP effects at 24-bit/96khz resolution.  This to me seems the most cost-effective mixer with studio-grade quality, short of getting those dBx, Alessi or Peavey brands of separate mixer and processors.  (while the mixer can accpet PL-type microphone jacks, you should invest in studio grade mics with XLR connectors.)    Just hook up your DVD player's stereo outs to one of the stereo input of the mixer and you can sing away. (with the DVD video connected to your TV)   Ofcourse you still need a professional quality power amp and speaker.  Don't use your HT speakers unless each has at least 100watts average power handling.   If a mic accidentally drops or the singer  shouts over the mic  at karaoke bar volumes, you could be saying goodbye to your home speakers.  For amps and speakers, I would suggest you vist the pier if you're really on a tight budget and get one of those surplus amps and Pioneer or Technics 3-way speakers with 12"woofers.  With another 10T, you should be on your way.  (plus another 3T for studio quality Mic  ;D)

O.T.: sir, what model po ng Behringer Mic Mixer 'to? I'm eyeing kasi yung Xenyx 1002FX (2-input MIC, less than 6T ), kaya lang with what you mentioned here, tingnan ko muna 'tong model na 'to 8), four mic inputs with digital fx for 5.2T - mukhang lumalabas na mas mura to.

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Re: Sakura AV753 for Videoke
« Reply #719 on: Aug 23, 2006 at 04:17 PM »
guys just want to ask an advice kung magkanu ba ang mga mic mixer ngaun? meron kasi kami sa bahay Paramax ang tatak nya kaso sira, ang sabi ng technician eh IC daw ang sira and it will cost me 1k+ kung ipapagawa ko sya. meron bang murang mic mixer? ok na rin ba kung papagawa ko na lang ung mixer namin? thanks!