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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #300 on: May 08, 2011 at 02:49 PM »
masters saan ba nakakabili ng inductors for passive speaker crossovers? nagtanong ako sa eleshop and most stores in raon, capacitors lang meron.
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #301 on: May 08, 2011 at 04:02 PM »
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #302 on: May 08, 2011 at 04:02 PM »
How about upgrading the speaker drivers?

how about buying new speakers?
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #303 on: May 08, 2011 at 05:52 PM »
why buy when you can roll your own?  ;D

look here: http://www3.telus.net/chemelec/Calculators/A-Inductance.htm
and here: http://www.colomar.com/Shavano/inductor_info.html
i don't have a coil winder and have no experience on inductor winding and handling of a few hundred feet of magnet wire. is it alright if i hand-wind it and it turns out a bit loose? baka kasi maging "kalakal" lang yung magnet wire if i can't do it properly.  :-\
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #304 on: May 08, 2011 at 06:53 PM »
you can use pvc pipes to make coil forms......you can wind them by hand.....fyi...i handle gage 16 and higher wires by hand....you can too... ;D
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #305 on: May 08, 2011 at 07:33 PM »
thanks for the reassurance master! pero paano nga kung medyo lawlaw pagka-wind, ok lang? with my very limited skills, yun ang major problem na ina-anticipate ko eh.
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #306 on: May 09, 2011 at 05:05 AM »
thanks for the reassurance master! pero paano nga kung medyo lawlaw pagka-wind, ok lang? with my very limited skills, yun ang major problem na ina-anticipate ko eh.

you can use adhesives like 5 minute epoxy to keep the coils formed after winding each layer.....btw, i saw some round coil forms at deeco, i remember i used those some years back...

you can even use transformer bobbins, the coils doesn't even have to be round....
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #307 on: Jun 03, 2011 at 09:33 AM »
Mga Sirs, I got a pair of Peavey PR15 loudspeakers used for PA.

http://www.peavey.com/products/proaudio/loudspeakers/pr//index.cfm/item/116440/PR%26reg%3B15.cfm#0

what are the possible modification that can be done to upgrade its sound. Luma na kasi, wala na ung dating crisp sound nya. Paki include na rin where to buy ng materials na needed. Dalhin ko sana sa mga members d2 who are expert in modification kaya lang I'm 12 hours away from Manila, so I'll to do it na lang with your help. TIA
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #308 on: Aug 30, 2011 at 07:24 PM »
Anyone tried ductseal-ing your speaker drivers?



http://diyaudioprojects.com/Drivers/40-1197/40-1197.htm
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #309 on: Aug 30, 2011 at 07:48 PM »
Mga Sirs, I got a pair of Peavey PR15 loudspeakers used for PA.

http://www.peavey.com/products/proaudio/loudspeakers/pr//index.cfm/item/116440/PR%26reg%3B15.cfm#0

what are the possible modification that can be done to upgrade its sound. Luma na kasi, wala na ung dating crisp sound nya. Paki include na rin where to buy ng materials na needed. Dalhin ko sana sa mga members d2 who are expert in modification kaya lang I'm 12 hours away from Manila, so I'll to do it na lang with your help. TIA

pm mo si speaker-doctor....
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #310 on: Oct 11, 2016 at 04:05 PM »
Been wanting to upgrade the sound of my garage boom box for the longest time however due to work load it took close to two years for me to finally get it done. Part of my hobbies are tinkering with my cars so this boom box gets a lot of use every week.  The only let down really of this unit is how it sounds.

The box: Its a Ryobi construction grade Boom Box. Yes its one unique box. Shock proof, dust and water resistant. It has very simple controls and has a radio (AM/FM) and an aux input with USB so you can charge your phone, ipod while playing.  The best function of this box is that it can be powered by a One + Ryobi battery. If powered via mains it charges the battery. Run time of the 4.0Ah battery is around 3 hours at full blast.



The problem: As previously mentioned it is the sound. Its is veiled (ngo ngo in local terms). Even when you play a a quality recording the highs are simply not there.  Make no mistake though...I don't have audiophile caliber aspirations for this unit. I just want to improve it so that it sounds as good as it looks depending of course on one's subjectivity.

The solution: I looked around on the net for the specs of the box and found out that it uses 4 inch drivers that are generic. Good thing there was a step by step disassembly procedure on the net by one dude who upgraded the drivers of his unit as well.  Same complaint...lack of mid and highs.  So off I went looking for 4 inch drivers with a mounted tweeter. Luckily for me I happen to pass by HMR one day and picked up a pair of 4 inch coaxial speakers for Php250.00. It brand new with grilles, wirig etc.  The brand is something that I havent heard of however the construction is way above the stock unit that the boom box uses so I though Php250.00 is a worthwhile gamble to uplift its performance.



here are pics of the disassembly:



Here is the generic driver:


now side by side with the new tenant:




replaced:



When I was looking at the innards of the unit I was thinking to myself why not upgrade the speaker  wires to better ones plus apply sound deadening to improve the bass however common sense came into play and I dont want to exert all that effort to chase a result that this unit might never achieve so its just the driver upgrade.

finished:


The outcome was quite surprising. The mids and highs improved and so is the bass. All in all it worth the Php250.00 and two hours of my time. Its will not provide me with the full monty of an audiophile caliber system but it does keep me entertained when im working on my cars during my spare time.
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #311 on: Oct 11, 2016 at 05:58 PM »
Galing! I like the One+ line, hindi lang cordless tools.

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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #312 on: Oct 11, 2016 at 06:10 PM »
Im a One+ fan as well. To date I have the ff: jobsite radio, tire inflator, leaf blower, buffer, vacuum, chemical sprayer and a couple of 4Ah batteries.
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #313 on: Oct 25, 2016 at 06:27 PM »
Mga brader anung ma suggest nyo na magandang pang upgrade sa mga caps ng cross over ng floor stander ko?
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #314 on: Oct 25, 2016 at 07:13 PM »
And saan pwde makabili ng pyesa for upgrade
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #315 on: Oct 25, 2016 at 07:17 PM »
And saan pwde makabili ng pyesa for upgrade
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #316 on: Oct 25, 2016 at 08:19 PM »
the last time i ask him hinde na sya nag bebenta... yung mga caps meron kaya sa raon or deeco?
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #317 on: Oct 25, 2016 at 09:29 PM »
the last time i ask him hinde na sya nag bebenta... yung mga caps meron kaya sa raon or deeco?
ay ganun di na sya nagbebenta.

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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #318 on: Oct 25, 2016 at 11:54 PM »
yup parang ganun na sir
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #319 on: Oct 26, 2016 at 06:09 AM »
sayang naman sya lang alam ko nagbebenta capacitor dito.

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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #320 on: Oct 26, 2016 at 06:48 AM »
Sa deeco ba meron sir or raon?
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #321 on: Oct 26, 2016 at 10:16 AM »
Sir, baka gusto nyo itry ang Mundorf EVO series, aluminum in oil, maganda tumunog at di masyadong mahal. meron sa Audio Amplified. warning: changing the caps doesnt guarantee better sound.
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #322 on: Oct 26, 2016 at 11:49 AM »
warning: changing the caps doesnt guarantee better sound.

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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #323 on: Oct 26, 2016 at 02:02 PM »
How much it will cost sir
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #324 on: Oct 26, 2016 at 03:03 PM »
Bago ka magpalit ng capacitor o anong bagay dyan sa crossover, ano muna iyung gusto mong matuldukan o ano sa tingin mo kulang ng speakers mo? Halimbawa masibilant siya kaya gusto mo bawasan ang sibilance, kulang sa detalye, may pagka boomy, hind sume sentro iyung kumakanta, masyado forward ...

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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #325 on: Oct 26, 2016 at 03:47 PM »
Medyo boomy and kulang sa detais
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #326 on: Oct 26, 2016 at 04:13 PM »
Hindi ako pamilyar un sa speaker na gamit mo pero kailangan malaman kung may hiwalay na crossover papunta sa tweeter, mid freq at low freq driver. Tapos nito kailangan kunan isa isa iyung papunta sa tweeter, mid freq tapos sa low freq driver. Base dun sa crossover puwede tayo gumawa ng plano kung ano ang gagawin.

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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #327 on: Oct 26, 2016 at 04:45 PM »
cge sir will double check kung may isa pang cross over papunta dun sa tweeter
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #328 on: Oct 26, 2016 at 04:52 PM »
Medyo boomy and kulang sa detais

Things you can do without spending...

Try moving the speakers away from the walls.  Corner placement enhances" the bass but if the speakers has enough bass, the added bass makes for a "boomy" sound.   Point the speakers towards the listener.   Reduce the diameter of the port, try putting a sock (yung bagong laba  ha :)  )

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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #329 on: Oct 26, 2016 at 04:58 PM »
Things you can do without spending...

Try moving the speakers away from the walls.  Corner placement enhances" the bass but if the speakers has enough bass, the added bass makes for a "boomy" sound.   Point the speakers towards the listener.   Reduce the diameter of the port, try putting a sock (yung bagong laba  ha :)  )


magbabago ba ang tunog sir pg hinde pa nalalabhan ang mejas? haha joke i will try this weekend sir
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