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Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
« Reply #3900 on: Dec 21, 2012 at 12:57 AM »
My Diamond 10's now belong to my bro and ironically, the wharfs which are known to be warm to laid back become bright when sounds peak, yung sudden sigaw in an action movie doon mo mapapansin na bright yung tweets, otherwise it stays true to its reputation, maybe that's the reason why they mod the tweets.

In my experience, a perfect example of lean amplification.

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Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
« Reply #3901 on: Dec 21, 2012 at 12:58 AM »
Wharf's being termed as entry level is a misconception in my opinion,  I think people are relating "entry" level to price because wharf's here are relatively cheap compared to other countries.  Wharf's in fact are not the easiest speakers to drive but if properly driven they can compete with the more expensive brands.
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Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
« Reply #3902 on: Dec 21, 2012 at 01:03 AM »
In my experience, a perfect example of lean amplification.

Master Jo, ibig mong sabihin is bitn na ang power right?  hindi naman kailangan umabot sa clipping para talagang mapansin na bitin na ang power diba?

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Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
« Reply #3903 on: Dec 21, 2012 at 01:07 AM »
Master Jo, ibig mong sabihin is bitn na ang power right?  hindi naman kailangan umabot sa clipping para talagang mapansin na bitin na ang power diba?




Solid state amps tend to become non-linear when pushed to their limits. Meron din insufficiently fed. Meaning, kaya pa nun amp, kaso bitin na sa power supply. Kung 2-channel sana ang usapan ok pa, pero pag AVR na wala ako tiwala eh, minsan 1-channel driven lang ang power ratings.

Hindi naman sa paabutin mo sa clipping, pero what you are missing is headroom. Pasigawin mo with ample amounts of power and hindi magtutunog bright because makakasabay ang lows. Pero pag sinisinok ang amp, kahit warm sounding pa sila sigurado ako lean yan. Tried and tested.


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Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
« Reply #3904 on: Dec 21, 2012 at 01:24 AM »

Solid state amps tend to become non-linear when pushed to their limits. Meron din insufficiently fed. Meaning, kaya pa nun amp, kaso bitin na sa power supply. Kung 2-channel sana ang usapan ok pa, pero pag AVR na wala ako tiwala eh, minsan 1-channel driven lang ang power ratings.

Hindi naman sa paabutin mo sa clipping, pero what you are missing is headroom. Pasigawin mo with ample amounts of power and hindi magtutunog bright because makakasabay ang lows. Pero pag sinisinok ang amp, kahit warm sounding pa sila sigurado ako lean yan. Tried and tested.



Ah ok, kaya pala sakin I never experienced it because I'm connected to a power amp, so may headroom ako and my brother only uses his avr so that may explain kung bakit bitin ang power.
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Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
« Reply #3905 on: Dec 21, 2012 at 07:13 AM »
Ang onkyo ba hindi match sa wharfs?

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Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
« Reply #3906 on: Dec 21, 2012 at 11:00 AM »
Ah ok, kaya pala sakin I never experienced it because I'm connected to a power amp, so may headroom ako and my brother only uses his avr so that may explain kung bakit bitin ang power.

I'm not saying that your brother's AVR is weak, no because there are other factors to consider. Placement, room treatment, and more which I'm sure you already know. With speakers, Power is not everything, unlike with amps which it is most of the time.

Nakita niyo naman ang mga AVRs, halos enough capacitance lang to minimize ripple in the power supply, sa laki lang ng transformer bumabawi to accommodate the sudden draw of current.

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Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
« Reply #3907 on: Jan 04, 2013 at 10:29 AM »
Hi Sirs/Mams,

Need advice on what amplifier to use with Wharfedale Cinema 9.



The amps I'm currently thinking of are Yamaha 373 and Pioneer 522.
Application is 85% movies (with 3D), 10% audio(occassional videoke) and 5% games.

Movies would be my primary use but a decent sound for audio would be great still.
Please supply pros and cons for the amps, I'm a newbie so I really don't know much about these things.

Hope you guys can help me out. TIA!

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Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
« Reply #3908 on: Jan 04, 2013 at 12:48 PM »
i'm planning to do the same setup very soon. So any feedback will be much appreciated :)

Hi Sirs/Mams,

Need advice on what amplifier to use with Wharfedale Cinema 9.



The amps I'm currently thinking of are Yamaha 373 and Pioneer 522.
Application is 85% movies (with 3D), 10% audio(occassional videoke) and 5% games.

Movies would be my primary use but a decent sound for audio would be great still.
Please supply pros and cons for the amps, I'm a newbie so I really don't know much about these things.

Hope you guys can help me out. TIA!
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Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
« Reply #3909 on: Jan 04, 2013 at 03:17 PM »
The amps I'm currently thinking of are Yamaha 373 and Pioneer 522.
Application is 85% movies (with 3D), 10% audio(occassional videoke) and 5% games.

Try both. Chipamp vs. Discrete Mosfet.

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Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
« Reply #3910 on: Jan 04, 2013 at 03:23 PM »
Hi Sirs/Mams,

Need advice on what amplifier to use with Wharfedale Cinema 9.



The amps I'm currently thinking of are Yamaha 373 and Pioneer 522.
Application is 85% movies (with 3D), 10% audio(occassional videoke) and 5% games.

Movies would be my primary use but a decent sound for audio would be great still.
Please supply pros and cons for the amps, I'm a newbie so I really don't know much about these things.

Hope you guys can help me out. TIA!
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Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
« Reply #3911 on: Jan 04, 2013 at 03:26 PM »
pwede mo taasan ng konti ung specs to mid level..para madrive ng mayos ung speaker mo..
medyo power hungry ung wharf at 86db 6ohms
pio 821 or 822

anu palang fronts nyan?hindi ko makita ung pics e

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Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
« Reply #3912 on: Jan 04, 2013 at 03:34 PM »
9.0 yata bro, yung bookshelf.
pwede na siguro ung 521 or 522 at 9999php nalang ata sa LIS yan
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Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
« Reply #3913 on: Jan 04, 2013 at 04:20 PM »
Ah talaga kase I was leaning towards Yamaha talaga except that walang stocks. I checked lang kung ano yung kaperahas ng price range and saw the Pioneer 522. Almost same price, napapaisip ako if I should wait na magkaroon ng stocks or should go to pioneer kung better talaga sya.
Kaso I have no idea kung ano magiging difference nilang dalawa..if one of them is really better for the speakers..
Yamaha is 500w ata and Pioneer is 400w, but I'm not really sure how to interpret it, besides the obvious na mas malakas yung Yamaha. Yung mga tunog wala na talaga ako alam.hehe

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Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
« Reply #3914 on: Jan 04, 2013 at 04:21 PM »
pwede na siguro ung 521 or 522 at 9999php nalang ata sa LIS yan

Sir saan yung LIS?

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Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
« Reply #3915 on: Jan 04, 2013 at 04:25 PM »
Sir saan yung LIS?

Sa shangrila mall edsa po. 5th floor po

While you are there, visit 5th ave  and sights and sounds too, so that you have choices.  Meron din po sa megamall na listening room if you are willing to walk.  And another shop in Front of sights and sounds that sells high end focals, although i forget their name.
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Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
« Reply #3916 on: Jan 04, 2013 at 04:34 PM »
Ah Listening in Style?I think nakita ko na yun..sige sir..mejo mahirap maghanap ng nagbebenta ng yamaha e, sights and sounds yung nakikita ko kaso walang stock..

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Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
« Reply #3917 on: Jan 04, 2013 at 04:44 PM »
Ah Listening in Style?I think nakita ko na yun..sige sir..mejo mahirap maghanap ng nagbebenta ng yamaha e, sights and sounds yung nakikita ko kaso walang stock..

Listening room po sa megamall may yamaha
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Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
« Reply #3918 on: Jan 14, 2013 at 08:39 AM »
Mga sir question po saan po ba ako makakabili ng parang thread ng speaker terminal ng 9.2? saka yung caps nya late ko nlang kasi napansin thanks po sir
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Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
« Reply #3919 on: Jan 20, 2013 at 09:24 PM »
I just saw Django Unchained with the Wharfedale 9.2 connected to a NAD 304 earlier today.

Not an HT setup, but a 2-channel set-up.  My 9.2 did not disappoint at all, through 2 hours 45 minutes of it (it's supposed to be longer than that but I stopped watching when the end credits came on the screen).  I am amazed what the 9.2 can do.  Of course the amp also had something to do with that.

Oh, and the NAD 304 was on tone defeat (flat).
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Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
« Reply #3920 on: Jan 22, 2013 at 03:19 PM »
Hi Guys!  I was using my 9.5s as videoke speakers only to find out after that the tweeters were damaged due to mic feedback. Any recos for a good but sulit place to bring my wharfs for repair? TIA!
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Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
« Reply #3921 on: Jan 22, 2013 at 03:29 PM »
Hi Guys!  I was using my 9.5s as videoke speakers only to find out after that the tweeters were damaged due to mic feedback. Any recos for a good but sulit place to bring my wharfs for repair? TIA!
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Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
« Reply #3922 on: Jan 22, 2013 at 03:34 PM »
Sir meron din thread dito na speaker doctor, try to find it.
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Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
« Reply #3923 on: May 02, 2013 at 07:25 AM »
Sirs newbie here. Masyado po bang malakas yung RXV471 if im going to use wharfe 9.4 speakers? I noticed in the speaker manual, power handling is 20 to 100w only. I think my receiver is rated 135/w for an asian model. Not sure though. If I set the 9.4 to Large masisira po ba yung speaker? o kelangan small lang? Thanks!

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Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
« Reply #3924 on: May 02, 2013 at 08:44 PM »
Sirs newbie here. Masyado po bang malakas yung RXV471 if im going to use wharfe 9.4 speakers? I noticed in the speaker manual, power handling is 20 to 100w only. I think my receiver is rated 135/w for an asian model. Not sure though. If I set the 9.4 to Large masisira po ba yung speaker? o kelangan small lang? Thanks!

Your speaker can handle it, as long as you run within the limits of your gear. I suggest using small with your setup if you have a subwoofer.

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Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
« Reply #3925 on: May 04, 2013 at 08:34 AM »
Your speaker can handle it, as long as you run within the limits of your gear. I suggest using small with your setup if you have a subwoofer.

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Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
« Reply #3926 on: May 07, 2013 at 05:39 AM »
Sirs newbie here. Masyado po bang malakas yung RXV471 if im going to use wharfe 9.4 speakers? I noticed in the speaker manual, power handling is 20 to 100w only. I think my receiver is rated 135/w for an asian model. Not sure though. If I set the 9.4 to Large masisira po ba yung speaker? o kelangan small lang? Thanks!

I'm using 9.1 for my Yamaha RX-V667 and I'm very contented with the setup. I guess the power handling of the 667 made my 9.1 sing.  I did not even use bi-amplification on my setup.
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Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
« Reply #3927 on: May 17, 2013 at 03:48 PM »
Ano po ba relatively cheap receiver and kaya mag drive ng Diamond 9.6?

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Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
« Reply #3928 on: May 17, 2013 at 08:50 PM »
Ano po ba relatively cheap receiver and kaya mag drive ng Diamond 9.6?

If you cross them high and don't play loud, then most will be okay. They do tend to sound a lot better with the model lines costing 70k and up, however. These speakers dip below 3 ohms and can get quite capacitive at certain frequencies. You can look at used units if you're looking for a cheap receiver that'd work well with these speakers.

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Re: Wharfedale Diamond 9 Series
« Reply #3929 on: May 18, 2013 at 12:06 AM »
If you cross them high and don't play loud, then most will be okay. They do tend to sound a lot better with the model lines costing 70k and up, however. These speakers dip below 3 ohms and can get quite capacitive at certain frequencies. You can look at used units if you're looking for a cheap receiver that'd work well with these speakers.

Oh ok. I was eyeing the Pioneer VSX 522 to go with the Diamond 9.6, I won't be playing it loud and they will be placed in a small room - about 20 sqm. Do you think VSX 522 would do? I heard though, that power hungry speakers such as the 9.6 may damage receivers that have low wattage, is this any true?