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Re:Turntable Part 2
« Reply #30 on: Oct 11, 2002 at 08:42 PM »
@hyperaudio, yes. that's the one!  ;D

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Re:Turntable Part 2
« Reply #31 on: Oct 14, 2002 at 05:07 PM »
hi arnoldc,

I saw your Oracle Delphi with SME at Pinoydiophiles.  That's indeed a nice front-end my friend.  :)

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Re:Turntable Part 2
« Reply #32 on: Nov 05, 2002 at 02:35 PM »
hi M_Shoe_Maker,

thanks! it's a good match with the acrylic rack. he he.

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Re:Turntable Part 2
« Reply #33 on: Nov 06, 2002 at 12:36 PM »
Yup, I have heard of a lot of budget turntables, even direct drive ones, which were properly calibrated, being very musical.   :)



bro, do you know anyone who could calibrate a sansui direct drive TT?


thanks

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Re:Turntable Part 2
« Reply #34 on: Nov 06, 2002 at 02:55 PM »
hi dondon,

You could try checking out Hyperaudio for your turntable's calibration/tuning.

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Re:Turntable Part 2
« Reply #35 on: Nov 06, 2002 at 03:53 PM »
hi dondon,

You could try checking out Hyperaudio for your turntable's calibration/tuning.

salamat M_S_M  :)


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Re:Turntable Part 2
« Reply #36 on: Nov 08, 2002 at 05:44 PM »
There are various tools needed to properly tune a turntable/arm/cartridge.

The basic of the basic would be the following:
1.  Bubble Level
-  to properly level the turntable / platter

2.  Cartridge Alignment Tool / Protractor
-  to properly align the cartridge vis-a-vis the record grooves

3.  Tracking Force Gauge
-  to properly set the counterweight of the tonearm


You can watch a person do this for you.  Eventually, you can learn this and do it by yourself.  Its fun! (to some)

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Re:Turntable Part 2
« Reply #37 on: Dec 18, 2002 at 08:07 AM »
So, any new converts from digital to analog?

Its the perfect time to be converted my freinds!  ;D

My friend's LP stash from the U.S. has arrived.  Very good condition LPs.  Various types of music available.

So c'mon, let the analog bug bite you!  You'll love it!  ;D

Analog is not dead!  (that's why this thread is on top again  ;D)


Arnoldc, enjoying your new "The Wall" album?  :)
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Re:Turntable Part 2
« Reply #38 on: Dec 18, 2002 at 09:13 AM »
@M_Shoe_Maker, i have not played it kasi i was listened to Carly Simon and Sergio Mendes & Brasil 66 last night. CD sound wouldn't come close.   :D

Pinakyaw mo ba yung mga INXS  ;D

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Re:Turntable Part 2
« Reply #39 on: Dec 18, 2002 at 09:26 AM »
arnoldc,  

He! He! He!  Naka reserve na ang INXS LPs for me  :)  Malay mo, in a few years, collectible na rin yun as the lead signer is already dead.

You saw, Analog Man's VPI TNT Mk5 Table / Air Tangent Arm / Clearaudio Harmony MC cartridge set-up?  

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Re:Turntable Part 2
« Reply #40 on: Dec 18, 2002 at 10:57 AM »
yes, of course. he asked me nga why i know it is an air tangent. sabi ko, i researched on TTs and would like to have that on my oracle. but the $10,000 price tag is out of my reach.  ;D

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Re:Turntable Part 2
« Reply #41 on: Dec 18, 2002 at 11:04 AM »
Grabe talaga yung Air Tangent.  Did he show you the air pump?  Its the big box outside his listening room.  Nakakatakot.  I thought it was some sort of generator.  ;D

Both of you nga pala practically have the same style of rack.  Acrylic with threaded stainless steel bars.

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Re:Turntable Part 2
« Reply #42 on: Dec 18, 2002 at 11:18 AM »
yes, we talked a little bit about acrylic rack making too.  :)

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Re:Turntable Part 2
« Reply #43 on: Dec 18, 2002 at 02:27 PM »
Alright!

I just had lunch with the Analog Man and was able to get my New Wave / Punk Rock LPs.  At long last, I have a mint copy of the Clash - London Calling double album!  :)

Wala nanaman akong pera!  :(

Anyway, LPs are more important than food, don't you think?  ;D

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Re:Turntable Part 2
« Reply #44 on: Dec 18, 2002 at 02:38 PM »
I'll beg for vinyl, but not for food  ;D

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Re:Turntable Part 2
« Reply #45 on: Dec 18, 2002 at 02:49 PM »
Dats da spirit my boy!  ;D

We both have the right priorities in life.  ;D

Its analog or nothing!

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Re:Turntable Part 2
« Reply #46 on: Jan 14, 2003 at 12:02 AM »
hi guys!

how much is a rega P2 dito sa pinas? san meron? what's a
good alternative?

sa mga 2nd hand na mesa, ano maganda at ang price ranges?

thanks!

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Re:Turntable Part 2
« Reply #47 on: Jan 14, 2003 at 02:36 PM »
Hi tuff_u_gong,

I don't think there's a distributor of Rega turntables in the Philippines but there are a no. of Planar 2's and 3's that float around.......(like at hyper's place)

As for second hand budget tables, you won't go wrong with the Regas; Thorens is another good bet (160, 166, 124, etc.).  You might find some Projects.

Maybe you can tell us your budget and maybe we can come up with a very decent deck.

Good luck.

Edrich

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Re:Turntable Part 2
« Reply #48 on: Jan 14, 2003 at 07:55 PM »
I'm not sure, but I think Hyperaudio still has a Rega Planar 3.

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Re:Turntable Part 2
« Reply #49 on: Jan 14, 2003 at 11:35 PM »
Hi tuff_u_gong,

I don't think there's a distributor of Rega turntables in the Philippines but there are a no. of Planar 2's and 3's that float around.......(like at hyper's place)

As for second hand budget tables, you won't go wrong with the Regas; Thorens is another good bet (160, 166, 124, etc.).  You might find some Projects.

Maybe you can tell us your budget and maybe we can come up with a very decent deck.

Good luck.

Edrich

thanks corrsty!

actually i'm raising some funds for a pre-amp, a turntable/cartridge and, kung kaya pa, a speaker upgrade. i'm not sure yet how i'll allocate.

sa turntable, basta lumamang lang ang tunog sa cd/dvd player ko OK na.

san ba may thorens? yan ba yung brand na binebenta ni sir sonny tuazon?

thanks!


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Re:Turntable Part 2
« Reply #50 on: Jan 15, 2003 at 03:47 AM »
tuff,

Sonny Tuazon sells project turntables.

Xinesyss, another member, was selling his Project 1.2 TT last time for 9K. I think it comes with a cartridge or two. It is a month or two old. You can send him a PM.

I agree, analog is better than digital--at least to my ears. Just make sure your pre-amp has a phono stage, otherwise, you'd have to get a separate one.

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Re:Turntable Part 2
« Reply #51 on: Jan 17, 2003 at 11:27 AM »
tuff,

you're welcome.

I think the Project 1.2 is a good starter table.  This turntable, when properly set up or any other turntable, could easily beat your cd/dvd player.

Some advice:

I heard some vinyl newbie (not that i'm saying you're new) who ventured to LP that didn't like the sound, or absolutely hated it because of LP intricacies, eg. occassional pops and ticks (so called popcorn sound).   Probably they were not advised that vinyls, although is the best high resolution format at the  moment, needs more TLC.  If you don't mind scrubbing your LPs, you should invest in a Record Cleaning Machine dahil nakakatamad maglinis ng plaka.  Also, not all ticks and pops can be remedied by cleaning.

Just a word of advice.  

Pero if you're a music lover and you want to capture the warmth and correctness of the music, LPs the way.

Good luck.
Edrich

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Re:Turntable Part 2
« Reply #52 on: Jan 18, 2003 at 12:31 AM »
Digital is was of the evils in society  ;D

Why?

It has made people lazy  ;D

Why?

With Digital, one does not need to do the necessary responsibilities to obtain good music reproduction.  That is; cleaning your LPs, aligning and cleaning your cartridge, etc. etc.

corrsty is absolutely right.  In order to achieve good sound from your analog playback system, you must at least be dedicated in doing the necessary "chores".

Well, its no crime if your lazy and will just settle for Digital  ;D

As they say:  "No pain, no gain"  ;D

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Re:Turntable Part 2
« Reply #53 on: Jan 18, 2003 at 04:27 AM »
tuff,

you're welcome.

I think the Project 1.2 is a good starter table.  This turntable, when properly set up or any other turntable, could easily beat your cd/dvd player.

Some advice:

I heard some vinyl newbie (not that i'm saying you're new) who ventured to LP that didn't like the sound, or absolutely hated it because of LP intricacies, eg. occassional pops and ticks (so called popcorn sound).   Probably they were not advised that vinyls, although is the best high resolution format at the  moment, needs more TLC.  If you don't mind scrubbing your LPs, you should invest in a Record Cleaning Machine dahil nakakatamad maglinis ng plaka.  Also, not all ticks and pops can be remedied by cleaning.

Just a word of advice.  

Pero if you're a music lover and you want to capture the warmth and correctness of the music, LPs the way.

Good luck.
Edrich

hi corrsty!

i'm fairly familiar with that popcorn sound kasi lumaki din ako with LPs. i also liked cleaning my records and cartridge - am not sure if i did things right back then, though...i agree with the TLC thing. hindi nga ako nagpapahiram ng plaka kahit sa closest friends ko. ha! ha!

anyway, i'm quite excited to play my old LP records (not that many) again specially with the ST-70 that now resides in my room!

btw, i saw a couple of old technics turntables around my parents' house that i may still be able to restore, rewire. if any of them work i'll be needing a good cartridge/needle and a pre-amp (i'm currently using a passive line stage built by GURU hyper) with a good phono stage (or even an MF X-LP which has a moving coil option).

thanks!


hi m_shoe_maker!

what's a good reference for turntable care and maintenance sa web?

thanks!


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Re:Turntable Part 2
« Reply #54 on: Jan 18, 2003 at 10:39 AM »
Hi tuff_u_gong,

Don't worry about the fact that you don't even let your close friends borrow your LPs.  In the audiophile community, there is an unwritten law that nobody borrows each others LPs.  You can swap or trade LPs your with audiophile friends but not borrow.  Its not being selfish and its perfectly ethical.  No normal audiophile would even think of borrowing LPs from a fellow audiophile.  Well, that is with the audiophile community.

As to good sites in the web, I just type in "Cartridge Alignment" in a search engine such as Yahoo,  and a lot of good informative sites come out.  

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Re:Turntable Part 2
« Reply #55 on: Jan 22, 2003 at 02:28 PM »
msm,

do you know gerry kaimo?distributor pala sya ng protractor. also, have you seen this  version of the protractor from the website of enjoy the music?

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Re:Turntable Part 2
« Reply #56 on: Jan 22, 2003 at 06:30 PM »
Hello dondon,

I don't personally know Gerry Kaimo, but heard he is also an audiophile.  Yup, I also bumped unto his name when I was surfing Enjoy the Music, specifically that protractor.

I have not tried contacting him though for that protractor.

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Re:Turntable Part 2
« Reply #57 on: Jan 26, 2003 at 03:54 PM »
I finally saw an original "Victor Talking Machine".  This is the antique phonograph I really wanted to have for display purposes.

According to the seller, it still rotates and works.  The only thing missing is the stylus.

The price? P35T.  My oh my.  Oh never mind,  I'll just settle with my RCA/Victor tin poster.  The one with the Victor Phonograph and Nipper (the white dog).

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Re:Turntable Part 2
« Reply #58 on: Jan 27, 2003 at 07:45 PM »
just got an old tube powered? (there are tubes inside, i'm not sure, maybe its a phono preamp or something) westinhouse turntable, a suitcase type. from the looks of it, it just needs minor restoration, particularly the metal plate. will tell you more about it later.

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Re:Turntable Part 2
« Reply #59 on: Jan 27, 2003 at 08:23 PM »
Uy dondon, OK yan ah.  Akin na lang. :D