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CD player problem.
« on: Jul 11, 2006 at 05:17 PM »
I have a Pioneer CD player which is more that 10 years old. I forgot the model but this has a 6 disc CD cartridge were you put the CDs upside down(data side up).  This is bought in japan (made in japan also) during the early 90's. It had been encountering problems lately there are disc it cant read even the orig ones. I tried to have it clean using the a CD cleaner (dry type) but I hardly notice any improvement.
Should I have it serviced for cleaning? I tried to open it once to no sucess. The lense is well enclosed in a compartment. Is it still advisable to have the lense replaced?

Need your advice guys. TIA
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Re: CD player problem.
« Reply #1 on: Jul 11, 2006 at 05:22 PM »
I think the problem is the lens/magnet alignment. Consult your trusted electronics service technician for repair or troubleshooting.


Yes, lens can be replaced.
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Re: CD player problem.
« Reply #2 on: Jul 11, 2006 at 05:44 PM »
Basic lens replacement at Pioneer Service Centers range from 2.5K-3.5K and depends on the unit's model.
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Re: CD player problem.
« Reply #3 on: Jul 11, 2006 at 05:57 PM »
Quote from: JojoD818 on Jul 11, 2006 at 05:44 PM
Basic lens replacement at Pioneer Service Centers range from 2.5K-3.5K and depends on the unit's model.

Sir jojo, if your in my shoes what would be your decision? replace or buy a new one na lang?

This is a vintage pioneer, it even doesnt have a optical out.
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Re: CD player problem.
« Reply #4 on: Jul 11, 2006 at 06:23 PM »
Quote from: bachwitz on Jul 11, 2006 at 05:57 PM
Sir jojo, if your in my shoes what would be your decision? replace or buy a new one na lang?

This is a vintage pioneer, it even doesnt have a optical out.

If I were you (strictly my decision alone). I'll get a new one.

I don't want to alarm or do harm to Pioneer but before the end of the millenium, I have bought 2 units PD-204, 1 unit PD-205 (not sure), and a Jukebox CDP - all of which only had an average of 2 years service life. So you can say that I had been a "suki" of Pioneer service centers from west avenue qc, to 5th avenue kal, to valenzuela branch.

And what's worse, I had a 12-cd disc changer installed in the car and to my dismay - worked only for 12 months after which I had the lens replaced for 2.5K and the darn thing only worked for 8 months. Warranty for automotive units is only 6 months. Darn it.

There was a time (when pioneer logo was an omega) when all of our gear was Pioneer, I loved that setup. Mid 90's I bought a Pioneer amp, EQ, two units dual tape decks, reverb processor, tuner, etc. all of which only the EQ and amp are now working.  ;D ;D ;D Oh well, me and my luck.  ;D ;D ;D

Again, strictly, if it were me - I'll get a new one, and a different one for that matter.  ;D

HTH

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Re: CD player problem.
« Reply #5 on: Aug 04, 2006 at 05:22 PM »
maki thread jack.

i am thinking of resurrecting my old philips cd721 player. 2 years ko na di ginagamit dahil di na magbasa ng cd. "NO DISC" palagi ang sulat sa screen even when a new/good/not pirated cd is inserted. pwede pa ba tong ma repair? or mas mabuti pang bumili ng bago.

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Re: CD player problem.
« Reply #6 on: Aug 04, 2006 at 05:29 PM »
try the usual cleaning of the lens, focus and tracking adjustment may help too.
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Re: CD player problem.
« Reply #7 on: Aug 04, 2006 at 08:22 PM »
tried cleaning the lens using disc cleaner and manual cleaning but still no epek ;D how to adjust the focus and tracking. i can't see any trimmer to adjust around the transport and pcb. maybe it is hidden somewhere.
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Re: CD player problem.
« Reply #8 on: Aug 04, 2006 at 10:00 PM »
Quote from: bachwitz on Jul 11, 2006 at 05:17 PM
I have a Pioneer CD player which is more that 10 years old. I forgot the model but this has a 6 disc CD cartridge were you put the CDs upside down(data side up).  This is bought in japan (made in japan also) during the early 90's. It had been encountering problems lately there are disc it cant read even the orig ones. I tried to have it clean using the a CD cleaner (dry type) but I hardly notice any improvement.
Should I have it serviced for cleaning? I tried to open it once to no sucess. The lense is well enclosed in a compartment. Is it still advisable to have the lense replaced?

Need your advice guys. TIA

i think you're referring to the pioneer pd-m701, i have the same one and my unit conked out around 2000.  but the thing is kinalikot ko kasi and i made the mistake of leaving it playing with a defective disc loaded,  had it repaired not until 2002 and it cost me around 3k to have the lens repaired...
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Re: CD player problem.
« Reply #9 on: Aug 06, 2006 at 12:17 PM »
Quote from: JojoD818 on Aug 04, 2006 at 05:29 PM
try the usual cleaning of the lens, focus and tracking adjustment may help too.

saan po kalikutin ang focus and tracking? ito ang pic ng cdp ko



thanks
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Re: CD player problem.
« Reply #10 on: Aug 06, 2006 at 01:25 PM »
Quote from: GneW on Aug 06, 2006 at 12:17 PM
saan po kalikutin ang focus and tracking? ito ang pic ng cdp ko



thanks

sir, kadalasan e nasa lens assembly yung trimmer for focus or intensity.
try mo open yung tray then pull the power plug para ma-expose/makita mo yung lens assembly.
the usual precaution for laser lens when active "try not to look directly into the lens - baka madamage ang mata mo"
good luck    :)


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Re: CD player problem.
« Reply #11 on: Aug 06, 2006 at 02:51 PM »
binaklas ko na ang transport at pcb. nakita ko ang 2 screws under the lens assy and may isa sa gitna na parang screw. tried to kalikot the screws pero wala pa rin. wala rin ilaw sa lens. siguro patay na ang lens. mahal ba ang replacement lens?
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Re: CD player problem.
« Reply #12 on: Mar 14, 2008 at 07:55 PM »
Matanong ko lang.......

Kung matalon na or di na nagbabasa cdp - lens na sira?
Kung magpalit naman ng lens - would it affect the sound quality ba or hindi?
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Re: CD player problem.
« Reply #13 on: Mar 14, 2008 at 08:04 PM »
Quote from: macdon on Mar 14, 2008 at 07:55 PM
Matanong ko lang.......

Kung matalon na or di na nagbabasa cdp - lens na sira?
Kung magpalit naman ng lens - would it affect the sound quality ba or hindi?

most probably nga sir Lens na ung may problema... Kung same ung lens na pinalit mo dapat same lang SQ.  :)
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Re: CD player problem.
« Reply #14 on: Mar 14, 2008 at 09:46 PM »
Thanks sir Ferds ;)

Is the lens kss-213c by Sony a popular one? Madali lang kaya makakuha neto?
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Re: CD player problem.
« Reply #15 on: Mar 14, 2008 at 10:17 PM »
Quote from: macdon on Mar 14, 2008 at 09:46 PM
Thanks sir Ferds ;)

Is the lens kss-213c by Sony a popular one? Madali lang kaya makakuha neto?

yup.. KSS-213C is readily available in RAON for 250each.. o kunin mo na ba? ;)
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Re: CD player problem.
« Reply #16 on: Mar 14, 2008 at 10:24 PM »
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Re: CD player problem.
« Reply #17 on: Mar 14, 2008 at 11:03 PM »
Under nego pa chief ;)

Hindi naman pala ganun kamahal ang mga lens ngayon - I remember nuon, mga libo yung mga yan :P

How hard/easy naman to replace?
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Re: CD player problem.
« Reply #18 on: Mar 14, 2008 at 11:09 PM »
Quote from: macdon on Mar 14, 2008 at 11:03 PM
Under nego pa chief ;)

Hindi naman pala ganun kamahal ang mga lens ngayon - I remember nuon, mga libo yung mga yan :P

How hard/easy naman to replace?

Madali lang... ;D
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Re: CD player problem.
« Reply #19 on: Mar 14, 2008 at 11:30 PM »
Sir Ferds - kung matuloy po, pwede ba ako magpatulong sa inyo? ;D
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Re: CD player problem.
« Reply #20 on: Mar 15, 2008 at 12:10 AM »
sir macdon ituloy mo na, panood ng operation ha sir ferds  ;D
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Re: CD player problem.
« Reply #21 on: Mar 15, 2008 at 12:13 AM »
Quote from: macdon on Mar 14, 2008 at 11:30 PM
Sir Ferds - kung matuloy po, pwede ba ako magpatulong sa inyo? ;D

sure bro no problem.  :)
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Re: CD player problem.
« Reply #22 on: Mar 15, 2008 at 09:22 AM »
Cge, balitaan ko kayong dalawa ;D Thanks thanks!
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