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Re: The Plasma Thread
« Reply #570 on: Jul 15, 2014 at 07:18 AM »
Madali lang.  May dala siyang maliit na Samsung remote, press access code. Service menu ang binuksan niya.  Hindi ko inalam ang service menu code, delikado kasi yon.

Ang safe ay hindi service menu, yung limited access lang, called MRT ("Mains Running Time"). Hindi ko pa na try, pero ang alam ko ay: Mute-7-3-7-Enter.
Hello Barrister,
I can use the remote the unit to do this? Mute 7-3-7-Enter?    this is a safer check, compared to what RAPTOR proposed down below this thread?  since you've mentioned it is dangerous going in the service menu

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Re: The Plasma Thread
« Reply #571 on: Jul 15, 2014 at 07:28 AM »
Just sharing, I was able to check my plasma's MRT as per Barristers instructions using my Harmony remote (mute, 7, 3, 7, enter).

I was also able to access the service menu but be careful, my calibrated picture settings was reset to factory settings afterwards.

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Re: The Plasma Thread
« Reply #572 on: Jul 15, 2014 at 08:59 AM »
Hello Barrister,
I can use the remote the unit to do this? Mute 7-3-7-Enter?    this is a safer check, compared to what RAPTOR proposed down below this thread?  since you've mentioned it is dangerous going in the service menu


Yes, you use the remote to do it.  That is not a service menu, so it's safe.

Yes, it dangerous to access the service menu.  A wrong entry can cause problems that even a Sammy tech will not be able to solve.

I once read on a US forum about a Panasonic plasma owner, accessed the service menu, checked service hours but did not change anything, exited the service menu, found the picture was now messed up, was never able to fix the messed up picture.

After reading about that horror story, I didn't want to know about any service menu codes anymore...  :(
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Re: The Plasma Thread
« Reply #573 on: Jul 15, 2014 at 09:54 AM »
atty,

mabibigyan ka pa ba nila ng plasma? or nirefund nalang?

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Re: The Plasma Thread
« Reply #574 on: Jul 15, 2014 at 11:52 AM »

Yes, you use the remote to do it.  That is not a service menu, so it's safe.

Yes, it dangerous to access the service menu.  A wrong entry can cause problems that even a Sammy tech will not be able to solve.

Thanks again Barrister for this tip  :)

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Re: The Plasma Thread
« Reply #575 on: Jul 15, 2014 at 02:42 PM »
atty,

mabibigyan ka pa ba nila ng plasma? or nirefund nalang?

Refund.
 
Ang policy ng SM ay stocks on hand at any SM branch lang ang puwedeng ibigay.  Walang new, closed-box Sammy F8500, as expected.
 
Nag-offer sila ng 51F5500 (plasma Full HD 3D Smart, 2013) pero demo unit din.  Bagong install lang daw, baka ok na rin.  Wag na lang, kasi gusto ko brand-new closed box, hindi yung pinaandar na sa dynamic mode.
 
Baka daw gusto ko ng Panasonic plasma?  No, siguradong 720p yon, kasi 720p lang ang mga last Panny plasma sa Philippines.  At puro open box sigurado yon, kasi matagal nang phase out ang Panny plasma. 
 
So, pumayag din sa refund.
 
Stressful pala mag TV shopping...  :P 
 
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Re: The Plasma Thread
« Reply #576 on: Jul 15, 2014 at 03:28 PM »
Bro, I have confirmed with SM that they have a display 64F8500 at SM Cebu registering 1626 in MRT reading.  P104K. :)

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Re: The Plasma Thread
« Reply #577 on: Jul 15, 2014 at 04:08 PM »
Ayos siguro yan.

Wala namang problema kung lilinawin agad nila na display model.

Dala ka ng test pattern slides on USB flash drive, play on the TV's built-in player and check for dead pixels and image burn/IR.

Ako naman, may delivery sa akin on Monday, 51F8500, new, closed-box, P72,199.
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Re: The Plasma Thread
« Reply #578 on: Jul 15, 2014 at 04:17 PM »
Ano ba mean time before failure rate ng plasma in hours?  Medyo mataas na din yung 1626hrs.

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Re: The Plasma Thread
« Reply #579 on: Jul 15, 2014 at 04:33 PM »
Walang available stats, but my estimate is around 15,000 hours.

Newer plasma panels have a half-life of 100,000 hours.  That's more than 30 years of normal use. 

However, people forget that 100,000 hours is the half-life of only the panel, not the the entire TV itself.  May mga board na masisira diyan, around 5 years siguro, ok na.  Pag sinusuwerte, 8 years or more na, ok pa rin ang TV.

Ang mga technician, usually hindi naman talaga alam ang sira, mga board-swappers lang.  Palit ng x-sustain board, sira pa rin.  Palit ng y-sustain board, sira pa rin.  Palit ng T-con, wala pa rin.  Palit ng power supply, wala pa rin.  "Sir, hindi na puwedeng ma-repair..."  Board swapper lang pala, ala-chamba... :D
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Re: The Plasma Thread
« Reply #580 on: Jul 15, 2014 at 08:19 PM »
Ayos siguro yan.

Wala namang problema kung lilinawin agad nila na display model.

Dala ka ng test pattern slides on USB flash drive, play on the TV's built-in player and check for dead pixels and image burn/IR.

Ako naman, may delivery sa akin on Monday, 51F8500, new, closed-box, P72,199.

nice to hear sir at last brand new na talaga and very nice deal too, dito sa cebu nag increase 90k, hahaha....dark knight rises at saka prometheus(2d) in bluray very gorgeous on this TV i like those shadow details sa mga dalawa nayan.
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Re: The Plasma Thread
« Reply #581 on: Jul 15, 2014 at 09:29 PM »
Mura!  Assuming OK ang condition.

Bro, I have confirmed with SM that they have a display 64F8500 at SM Cebu registering 1626 in MRT reading.  P104K. :)

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Re: The Plasma Thread
« Reply #582 on: Jul 23, 2014 at 10:15 AM »
check SM Appliance Center. I recall seeing one at either the MOA or the MegaMall branch. also try the big Anson's appliance in front of Landmark Makati.

Thanks to sir DTNS, sa Anson's Makati ako nakabili. 

Samsung plasma 51F8500, brand new, closed-box, 8 hours MRT.

P72,199 cash, COD, with free Samsung Blu-ray 3D HTiB, also new and closed-box.  Value of the free HTiB cannot be deducted from the price.

Baka may idea kayo ng price ng Samsung HT-H5530HK, gusto ko kasi ibenta.   
http://www.samsung.com/my/consumer/mp3-audio-video/home-theatre/home-theatre-systems/HT-H5530HK/XM
 
 
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Here's my F8500 thread:  http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,193229.0.html

 
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Re: The Plasma Thread
« Reply #583 on: Jul 23, 2014 at 10:48 AM »
good news!..

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Re: The Plasma Thread
« Reply #584 on: Jul 23, 2014 at 12:35 PM »
Thanks to sir DTNS, sa Anson's Makati ako nakabili. 

Samsung plasma 51F8500, brand new, closed-box, 8 hours MRT.


Congrats sir!

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Re: The Plasma Thread
« Reply #585 on: Jul 27, 2014 at 01:21 PM »
Congrats sir!
good news!..

Salamat, mga brader!
 
 
 
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Ngayon ko lang nalaman, aside from LG, meron pa palang isang plasma manufacturer --- Changhong.
 
Not 100% sure, but I hear the plasma panel is not just an LG OEM; it's really made by Changhong itself.
 
http://changhong.com.au/products/television/all/c4000-60/
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Re: The Plasma Thread
« Reply #586 on: Jul 27, 2014 at 02:58 PM »

Salamat, mga brader!
 
 
 
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Ngayon ko lang nalaman, aside from LG, meron pa palang isang plasma manufacturer --- Changhong.
 
Not 100% sure, but I hear the plasma panel is not just an LG OEM; it's really made by Changhong itself.
 
http://changhong.com.au/products/television/all/c4000-60/

speaking of LG plasma, parang di nag-click dito sa atin sa PDVD ... di ba maganda quality?
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Re: The Plasma Thread
« Reply #587 on: Jul 27, 2014 at 05:37 PM »
speaking of LG plasma, parang di nag-click dito sa atin sa PDVD ... di ba maganda quality?

LG's plasma tvs sold locally are mostly entry-level models. I've seen some of them and I think they have better PQ than Samsung's entry-level plasmas.
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Re: The Plasma Thread
« Reply #588 on: Jul 28, 2014 at 10:36 AM »
speaking of LG plasma, parang di nag-click dito sa atin sa PDVD ... di ba maganda quality?

Hindi magaling ang quality.
 
Noong may Pioneer plasma pa, The best was Pioneer, followed by Panasonic, LG and Samsung.
 
Samsung plasma was the worst at the time, with common burn-in problems.  Then Samsung drastically improved with the D series plasma of 2011. 
 
By that time, wala nang Pioneer.  Panny, Sammy and LG na lang, with LG being the worst plasma manufacturer.
 
In 2011, ang discussions sa pinoydvd ay puro Panny plasma; konti lang ang Sammy plasma discussions.  Not surprising, since Panny was the best.  LG plasma, bihira lang ang discussions.
 
May isang LG plasma na may mahabang thread dito, circa 2011 discussions - yung LG PK550 50" Plasma:
 
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,122262.330.html
 
Interesado rin sana ako, pero after some research, nalaman ko na may problema pala sa color shifting.  Hindi ko na pinansin ang LG plasmas mula noon:
 

A white house in Risky Business shows how color can be introduced
in various ways with a TV that contains a color shift problem.
http://reviews.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/lg-plasma-tv/lg-50pk550.html
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Re: Re: The Plasma Thread
« Reply #589 on: Jul 28, 2014 at 03:10 PM »

Hindi magaling ang quality.
 
Noong may Pioneer plasma pa, The best was Pioneer, followed by Panasonic, LG and Samsung.
 
Samsung plasma was the worst at the time, with common burn-in problems.  Then Samsung drastically improved with the D series plasma of 2011. 
 
By that time, wala nang Pioneer.  Panny, Sammy and LG na lang, with LG being the worst plasma manufacturer.
 
In 2011, ang discussions sa pinoydvd ay puro Panny plasma; konti lang ang Sammy plasma discussions.  Not surprising, since Panny was the best.  LG plasma, bihira lang ang discussions.
 
May isang LG plasma na may mahabang thread dito, circa 2011 discussions - yung LG PK550 50" Plasma:
 
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,122262.330.html
 
Interesado rin sana ako, pero after some research, nalaman ko na may problema pala sa color shifting.  Hindi ko na pinansin ang LG plasmas mula noon:
 

A white house in Risky Business shows how color can be introduced
in various ways with a TV that contains a color shift problem.
http://reviews.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/lg-plasma-tv/lg-50pk550.html
wow bro barrister thanks for sharing!
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Re: The Plasma Thread
« Reply #590 on: Aug 05, 2014 at 11:38 AM »
The Best Television
June 24, 2014 (Last Updated: July 14, 2014)
Geoff Morrison

If I was in the market for an awesome television, I’d get the Samsung F8500 series, either in 51-, 60-, or 64-inch sizes (about $1,800, $2,400, or $3,100, respectively). This is a fantastic looking television, with a punchy brights, deep darks, lifelike and accurate color, excellent detail, and great performance in rooms with lots of light. While pricey, it has one of the best pictures of any TV in recent years according to all the major TV reviewers.
 
... If stepping down, we recommend the F5300 from Samsung, which costs much less, though it doesn’t have quite the same level of picture quality.
 
... I, and the vast majority of TV reviewers, would tell you to get a plasma, even now, over any LCD. Why? We’re able to view all TVs in a controlled environment (i.e., not in a brightly-lit store). We’re able to view these TVs side by side. Lastly, we’re able to objectively measure the TVs with test gear. The result? In nearly every case, plasmas just look better than LCD.
 
... Why would you want an LCD? Truthfully, most people shouldn’t, if they’re looking for the best picture quality. Ignore the marketing. What you see in a store is not indicative of the performance you’ll see at home. Plasmas are not dim and will work brilliantly as long as your room isn’t all windows and you only watch TV during the day. Even if they are, the F8500 performs better with bright rooms than just about any other plasma.
 
... if you’re thinking of buying a 50-to-60-inch TV, 4K is just going to be a waste of money, unless you’re sitting really, really close.
 
... The last and perhaps biggest issue is that all current 4K TVs are just LED LCDs. In other words, all the picture quality negatives found with “normal” LCDs still apply.
 
http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-tv/
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Re: The Plasma Thread
« Reply #591 on: Aug 05, 2014 at 12:26 PM »
Meron bang locally available na F5300 na 60" or 64" dito?
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Re: The Plasma Thread
« Reply #592 on: Aug 05, 2014 at 01:01 PM »
Wala sir.

F5300 equivalent here is F5500.  Same model, different number.

60F5500 meron, 64F5500 wala.

I had the chance to check this model in 51 and 64 inch sizes at Ansons Ayala a while ago.  It really is an awesome plasma tv.  Picture quality is crisp with very accurate colors.  Saw it side by side with the 60F5500 and you can just see the difference.  60F5500 pixels are visible at about 3-4 feet from the display.  The F8500s are just smooth as silk!
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Re: The Plasma Thread
« Reply #593 on: Aug 12, 2014 at 11:04 PM »
How much 60F5500 dito locally?
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Re: The Plasma Thread
« Reply #594 on: Aug 19, 2014 at 04:08 PM »
I saw Bose's new TV with built in speakers, walang tao sa showroom kaya hindi ko natnaong if it was a plasma panel, it looked like a plasma dahil hirap sa liwanag ng showroo, :) but the sound was fantastic!
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Re: The Plasma Thread
« Reply #595 on: Aug 19, 2014 at 04:44 PM »
I saw Bose's new TV with built in speakers, walang tao sa showroom kaya hindi ko natnaong if it was a plasma panel, it looked like a plasma dahil hirap sa liwanag ng showroo, :) but the sound was fantastic!

sobrang ganda sir sound nyan and kaya talaga simulate ng surround ... if I remember it right, it has an array of 18 speakers at ibang klase yung technology nya to simulate surround ... i attended a demo of that one, they had 7.1 speaker stands surrounding the room, and all the stands were cloaked with black cloth - it looked like there were speakers around the room ... they played a demo that really felt they had 7.1 speaker system ... after the demo, really surprised that all the stands had no speakers, everything was coming from the TV, ang kapal nga lang ... problem lang is yung price nya before  dito is similar to buying a good quality TV and a good AV receiver and 5.1 quality speaker setup
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Re: The Plasma Thread
« Reply #596 on: Aug 22, 2014 at 11:27 PM »
I have a 50" LG plasma (50PV400) and its more than 2 years now but still kicking!

I calibrated it via Disney WOW bluray disc as seen in this thread and i'd say that LG plasma isn't too bad IF calibrated carefully.

And plus the price to performance ratio is unbeatable by other brands.

Then again, i'm still eyeing that 55" VT60 an electronics store is giving me for only $1499 (P60,000) or probably by christmas i can get a boxing day deal for a 64F8500 :)
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Re: The Plasma Thread
« Reply #597 on: Sep 22, 2014 at 01:35 PM »
Wow ang mura na talaga ng TV ngayon!

The latest Samsung 43" basic (non-3D) model is 22,900 lang :o

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Re: The Plasma Thread
« Reply #598 on: Sep 23, 2014 at 01:09 AM »
Wow ang mura na talaga ng TV ngayon!

The latest Samsung 43" basic (non-3D) model is 22,900 lang :o

IIRC, 19999 yung 42" plasma ng LG sa Abensons dati.
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Re: The Plasma Thread
« Reply #599 on: Sep 30, 2014 at 04:01 PM »
Ngayon ko lang nalaman, aside from LG, meron pa palang isang plasma manufacturer --- Changhong.

Pati Changhong, titigilan na rin ang plasma:
 
Changhong to continue stock trading halt
Experts believe this indicates firm may close plasma display panel business
2014-09-29 Global Times
Web Editor: Qin Dexing 

http://www.ecns.cn/business/2014/09-29/136722.shtml
 

 
 
 
 
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