Topic: The Plasma Thread

[jvm]

My 1st plasma Hitachi 55" Plasma 55PMA550 (1366x768)



My 2nd plasma Panasonic 65" TH-65PF9WK (1920x1080)

Coming Soon, Home Theater by TheaterWorks 

WOW

[jvm]

Wala kasi akong nakikitang data at the time of my Feb. 28 post.  Pero meron na pala ngayon:


Plasma Big-Screen Leader In '06
By Greg Tarr -- TWICE, 3/12/2007

PORTLAND, ORE. — Plasma TVs outsold all other display technologies in the 40-inch-plus screen sizes in the United States during full year 2006, according to a market research report issued by Quixel Research.

http://www.twice.com/article/CA6423470.html?industryid=23106

Hiramin natin mula sa kabilang thread.

[dB10]

Lets do the wave

[barrister]

Alam na natin noon pa na Plasma ang big screen (40+ inch) leader...  ... we're not surprised with the tech news item. 

Hindi lang natin dinedeklara dito agad nang walang data dahil hindi naman tayo mahilig masalita nang walang ebidensiya.   

[barrister]

From Panasonic Belgium-Luxembourg:

10th gen. 42" Viera Plasma, Full HD 1080p (1920 x 1080) --- For Jun 30, '07?



http://www.panasonic.be/servlet/PB/menu/1250410_l6/index.html

[axn8882003]

I know that Plasma is the best selling display technology for 40 inch above. I also own a 42" plasma display. But a lot, if not all of my friends who are planning on buying a large display panel says they will be buying LCDs. I still have to tell them and explain that plasma is the way to go before they even consider on checking out a plasma display panel and eventually buys a plasma. Bakit kaya ganun?

[pchin]

Phew...I'm salivating over the new 42" Viera Plasma...if only I have a money tree 

[dB10]

I know that Plasma is the best selling display technology for 40 inch above. I also own a 42" plasma display. But a lot, if not all of my friends who are planning on buying a large display panel says they will be buying LCDs. I still have to tell them and explain that plasma is the way to go before they even consider on checking out a plasma display panel and eventually buys a plasma. Bakit kaya ganun?

i can only guess that like myself before, i relied mainly on advertisements and the trends i read on paper/magazines/web, that magnified the problems of plasma and minimized the problems of lcd. when you are scared enough you tend to beleive whatever else is being given you, the only reality check will be a side by side comparison and the honest opinions of friends (personal or forum friends).

before when i was trying to get my first flat panel, i only considered lcd because of all the negative publicity i read, but every time i was on the floor looking for nice panels, it was always the plasma panels that attracted me first but i would always turn my back on it once i find out it was a plasma panel. Boy was i wrong. Buti na lang i had the chance to switch to plasma

[jvm]

i can only guess that like myself before, i relied mainly on advertisements and the trends i read on paper/magazines/web, that magnified the problems of plasma and minimized the problems of lcd. when you are scared enough you tend to beleive whatever else is being given you, the only reality check will be a side by side comparison and the honest opinions of friends (personal or forum friends).

before when i was trying to get my first flat panel, i only considered lcd because of all the negative publicity i read, but every time i was on the floor looking for nice panels, it was always the plasma panels that attracted me first but i would always turn my back on it once i find out it was a plasma panel. Boy was i wrong. Buti na lang i had the chance to switch to plasma

Very true!

Marketing does a lot for a product. Here in the Phils, plasma marketing is not so much. And also, salesmen that are not well trained in product knowledge, tend to go along with marketing too, rather than providing the pros and cons of each of the display technologies objectively.

[jvm]

I've been using the pio696 for a week now. Upscaled dvd's look better, with richer colors and better black, clear clean picture. Good enough to stave off my craving for HD, for now, while waiting for the prices of HD players and discs to be affordable.

1080i vs. 720p - I can't tell the difference.

1080i/720p vs 480p(component) noticeable difference.

480p-Component vs. 480p-HDMI - better black with 480p-HDMI

My only complaint with upscaling through HDMI, is that I can't maximize the the screen with anamorphic WS since it will display the original aspect ratio and compress it a little further (the bottom black bar is a bit thicker than with the original aspect ratio). With 16:9, a thin black bar is still present.

Compared with my Pioneer585K, the 696, performs better even with component connection. The 696 can even read better; Sounds better; Looks better too.

I got my 6-ft HDMI cable from jambam, B&S section, for 1K only. Very good quality, compared with other generics that I've seen.

Got the 696 at Anson's ATC for 6.8K(SRP 7.2K), with 12VCD karaoke and a Hitch VCD, free . Ironically, you buy a DVD player yet they give you free VCD , kahit isang DVD na lang sana.

[barrister]

My only complaint with upscaling through HDMI, is that I can't maximize the the screen with anamorphic WS since it will display the original aspect ratio and compress it a little further (the bottom black bar is a bit thicker than with the original aspect ratio). With 16:9, a thin black bar is still present.

Paano kung HDMI without upscaling, i.e.: 480p lang ...  how are the black bars?

[Munskie]

whats the cheapest 720p plasma display out there....syempre with hdmi...

[jvm]

Paano kung HDMI without upscaling, i.e.: 480p lang ...  how are the black bars?

With 480p-HDMI, you can manipulate the aspect ratio with your TV, just like with component. You can totally fit the picture to the screen with the zoom function of the TV.

 

[jvm]

whats the cheapest 720p plasma display out there....syempre with hdmi...

about 100K for a 42" PDP.

[barrister]

With 480p-HDMI, you can manipulate the aspect ratio with your TV, just like with component. You can totally fit the picture to the screen with the zoom function of the TV.

Thanks for the info, bosing.  EDTV kasi yung plasma ko, so 480p is very important for me. 

Pantay ang black bars top and bottom sa HDMI 480p?

[jvm]

Thanks for the info, bosing.  EDTV kasi yung plasma ko, so 480p is very important for me. 

Pantay ang black bars top and bottom sa HDMI 480p?

Pantay ang black bars. Parang component connection din, pero mas maganda lang color sa HDMI ng kunti at mas black ang black.

You're welcome Atty.

[barrister]

Ayos yun, a.  May silbi din pala ang Pioneer 696 sa akin  Thanks again!

[av_phile1]

Why is it that the plasma screens I've seen so far still have visible grid lines up close like CRT screens  while I see no lines whatsoever in LCDs? 

[Clondalkin]

Why is it that the plasma screens I've seen so far still have visible grid lines up close like CRT screens  while I see no lines whatsoever in LCDs? 

I dont know the exact technical explanation for the mesh grid look, but the latest PZ series Panasonic plasmas (50V, 58V and 65V) with full HD panels have notably reduced that compared to the previous PX series.   The 50V is exceptionally clean even up close.

[jvm]

Why is it that the plasma screens I've seen so far still have visible grid lines up close like CRT screens  while I see no lines whatsoever in LCDs? 

I wanted to respond this morning, because I'm sure that I don't notice the grid lines on my Hitachi. But I thought of confirming it first, which I did this lunch break. Yes there are gridlines. But only if you look very very close, as in my nose almost touching the screen. And looking very intently. There are gridlines but very very fine.

I've seen other plasma with visible gridlines like the old model at LIS, Festival. I believe the new ones have very very fine gridlines that are only visible if you really look at them very very close and intently.

[iceman90a]

For color saturation you will need a sample color of magenta or cyan. But without it, just look for the red color. Then look for color bleeding. The red should be as red as possible without bleeding.

For the Hue or Tint, I also don't have the required filters, so I just set it to mid point, balance between RED and GREEN, as long as the skin tones are acceptable to me.

Pre meron akong DVE with the color filters - calibrate natin minsan, I want to see a plasma screen

[jvm]

Pre meron akong DVE with the color filters - calibrate natin minsan, I want to see a plasma screen

Ok iceman90a. Long time no see.

Kailan ka pwede?

[barrister]

Samsung Shines in US Plasma TV Market
By Cho Jin-seo
Staff Reporter

Samsung Electronics has outperformed Japan's Matsushi.ta in the U.S. plasma TV market in the first two weeks of March, raising hopes that it may be able to extend its LCD leadership to the plasma sector this year as well.

http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/biz/200703/kt2007032219380411890.htm
 

[jvm]

Bakit kaya di nag launch ng Plasma ang Samsung dito?

[barrister]

Bakit kaya di nag launch ng Plasma ang Samsung dito?

Meron din. Hindi lang agressive, hindi yata maganda ang forecast nila para sa plasma dito.  May nakita ako sa Anson Makati, 50" Samsung plasma.  Maganda rin, hindi lang ako interesado, mahal kasi.

[parak]

I've been using the pio696 for a week now. Upscaled dvd's look better, with richer colors and better black, clear clean picture. Good enough to stave off my craving for HD, for now, while waiting for the prices of HD players and discs to be affordable.

1080i vs. 720p - I can't tell the difference.

1080i/720p vs 480p(component) noticeable difference.

480p-Component vs. 480p-HDMI - better black with 480p-HDMI

My only complaint with upscaling through HDMI, is that I can't maximize the the screen with anamorphic WS since it will display the original aspect ratio and compress it a little further (the bottom black bar is a bit thicker than with the original aspect ratio). With 16:9, a thin black bar is still present.

Compared with my Pioneer585K, the 696, performs better even with component connection. The 696 can even read better; Sounds better; Looks better too.

I got my 6-ft HDMI cable from jambam, B&S section, for 1K only. Very good quality, compared with other generics that I've seen.

Got the 696 at Anson's ATC for 6.8K(SRP 7.2K), with 12VCD karaoke and a Hitch VCD, free . Ironically, you buy a DVD player yet they give you free VCD , kahit isang DVD na lang sana.

noticable ba talaga yung branded hdmi cable vs. generic ones?

[jvm]

noticable ba talaga yung branded hdmi cable vs. generic ones?

I can't conclusive say Bro when it comes to performance. But based on my experience with other connectors/cables, the well constructed ones usually perform better. And the one I bought, generic too, is better constructed than the other generics I've seen.

I have yet to try a branded one, hopefully!

[dB10]

i have to agree with jvm, my experience with past cables are the same, although some may argue that with digital cables the story is different being that the signal is always just on or off, i'm no expert but why not just buy the cheapest branded one to help you sleep at night...and watch your panel with a smile and self satisfaction

[Mouldingo]

Plus 1 for Plasma

"Just wanted to say this wil be my last post on the Bravia Cloudy thread. Thought you might like to hear how my situation was resolved, as it might help you with refunds.

I bought my Bravia 46" XBR 2 in early December 2006 online from Amazon. Noticed the clouding right away and found this discussion after doing a Google search. Too bad I didn't find it BEFORE I bought the set. Anyway, I called Sony and got the frimware update. I installed this mid February. Made the clouding better, but did not fix it.

Last week I called Amazon to see about a refund, but was told it was too late for that. I asked if there was anything else she could do and the operator told me that she'd forward my request on to the "specialists", who would contact me within 24 hours. I then called Sony and asked for a refund. They said they couldn't do that , but that Amazon would, if I gave them my Sony case#. I got an email from Amazon saying I was out of luck, but if I had a Sony case# I could click on a link and enter it. I did so, and explained that the set was not fixed after I did the firmware update. I got an email back from Amazon saying they had contacted the shipper and would pay to have the set returned, and give me a full refund (!)

Okay, obviously Sony knows there is a problem, but don't want to admit it, and they must have an understanding with Amazon (& possibly other retailers). Anyway the set went out (I had to pay to have it boxed up, as the box was long gone).

As for me, I'm getting a Panasonic TH-50PF9UK 1080p 50" Plasma. I've determined that large format LCD is not ready for prime time.

Good luck to you all!! "

[dB10]

hey guys looks like we got another convert dont forget to fill us in on your review of the new panny!